The Big Picture - The 1992 Movie Draft

Episode Date: May 17, 2022

We are drafting again! And Amanda is back! She and Sean are joined by Chris Ryan to pick their faves and foil their pals in a draft of the movies from 1992. Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Chris Ryan Producers: Bobby Wagner and Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And I'm Amanda Dobbins. And this is The Big Picture, a conversation show about the year 1992. And I want the truth about Amanda being back on the show. Dobbins, what's up? You know, just the usual stuff. Dobbins, did you order the up you know I did guys huge life event that I think I'm allowed to talk about in public I have seen Top Gun Maverick and also gave birth to a child but primarily I have

seen Top Gun Maverick I can't wait to talk about it with you and also yeah I have a healthy kid that's really fun so it's been great I'm so proud of you on both counts CR is proud of you CR is here hi CR Sean and I saw spider head we did it exists it's a real movie

we're going to talk about Top Gun Maverick on this show we're going to talk about spider head on this show it's all coming up in the next month or so, but that's not what we're doing today. Today, the Triangle of Sadness is reunited to draft again. We're drafting

out of the year 1992. And I'm just, I'm so excited. I'm so excited to talk about this year with you guys. I'm so excited for us to be back in good form.

I'm so excited to have a healthy mother with a healthy child on this podcast. I think maybe it will change you. Maybe it will change how you engage. Oh, I'm really fascinated to see that. So I wanted to say, everyone's been so kind, by the way, about the arrival of this little

guy into my life, including Sean and Chris, which is like really lovely. Coach Chris, as we now call him in our house exclusively. And everyone on the internet has been really lovely indulging me with all my baby pictures, which you guys are very nice. One person did very sweetly comment, I hope that motherhood hasn't made you soft because we really need you and your energy back on the big picture. And I just want to let that guy know, number one, thank you. I feel seen.

I really am. I am full of love. My kid's amazing. And I am so grateful to everyone. But that's what I do. And my other time, and here in this space, I show my love to my friends by just absolutely walloping them in any competitive endeavor, which me to sean fantasy a recent mailbag episode of the big picture i'm so glad i'm here where you spoke a lot about the recent draft and certain uh issues that might have presented itself during the recent draft but you did not mention who finished number two in the draft yeah with absolutely no. Were it not for this bot surge of the CR army into this

Dominion electoral system that we have going that he would have had like an easy path to victory. No, that's not what I said. And once again, how dare you twist my words against me.

Both of you already ganging up on me. You know, here's my take on that. If Chris's army of duplicitous monsters were not participating in that voting, Amanda would have won. And Amanda would have won because she stayed as true to herself as possible.

She only voted for films that she cares about and or Gigli. And Chris drafted Seabiscuit, which was an abomination. That's not why I won, though. I won because you picked Finding Nemo because you have turned into a snowflake. And I was able to get those two first two movies. True story, Sean.

I saw some Finding Nemo swim diapers in the drugstore this morning and was wondering whether I should buy them for you. Like for me to wear? Yes. Sure, or Alice. You know, you guys could match. That would be a nice Father's Day present. Like for me to wear? Yes. Sure. Or Alice, you know, you guys could match.

That would be a nice father's day present. Just let me know. You've got it. Don't give anybody any Photoshop ideas. Oh boy. Oh dear. We made, Kaya,

we made it need you to chop that, that comment. I'm not sure if I can see my nude body wearing Nemo diapers. Anyhow, I last draft was a blast, obviously in part because Mallory is deranged and Joanna is one of the greatest sports imaginable. This is different. We're back to

the original three, and I thought it would be fun to do a year that I know that all three of us love that has some core big picture texts, some core texts of our friendship. We went with 92 so why don't we start where we usually start which is who were we and what were we in 1992 cr i'll start with you

because you were a little more sentient than amanda and i were yeah what were you up to freshman year of high school wow uh you know i can't really i i like to like tease uh a kind of rugged individualistic lifestyle on these podcasts where I'm like, Oh, you guys had no fucking idea what I was up to in 03. You know what I mean? Like,

as if I'm, you know, like James Kahn and thief or something like that. But I was just a freshman in high school wearing gap clothes, playing JV basketball and listen to Nirvana like any kid in the world. And, uh, it was a sexually fallow period i guess you know we

were we were waiting to blossom the team was still like getting a lot of things dialed in the team yeah you know like the way jordan spieth has like eight swing coaches i think that like i imagine that but like i basically was um i was in the cut i was just you know like i'd say that the big thing that was happening around this time is, you know, you get out of middle school and you're in high school. And right at this moment, as I was entering high school, is when, I guess for lack of a better term,

alternative culture started to, like, explode in the mainstream. So imagine you're a freshman in high school. Nevermind comes out. Check Your Head comes out. Around this time, the Wu-Tang singles start coming out. And these independent films from these independent filmmakers coming out of Sundance start to happen.

And you start to get aware that the thing that you thought was culture, the thing that you were just like, I watch TV and I go to these movies. And then you're like, oh my God, there's this whole other world out there. And it definitely changed my life. Not necessarily in this year, but this is the beginning of that. And there are a couple of movies in this year that really signified that. Did you find yourself going to the movies a lot? Yeah. Well, my dad was very much an active film critic at this time. So I think I went a fair amount with him. And it's hard to remember. I'm sure you two have a very similar account. I think I've seen around 75 movies from this

year, if not more. So when I went through the list of everything that was released in 1992, I remember the plot of Article 99. These are movies that not only were they in the theater, not only were they being written about in Premiere magazine in this very breathless way of like, guess what? This is coming.

Then when they would hit cable, they were on all the time. And you really did develop like these weird relationships with like final analysis, even though you wouldn't necessarily call that like a masterpiece. I remember them talking about final analysis. I remember when I was in the theaters

and I remember when I was on cable and be like, honestly, is Kim Basinger naked in this movie? Yeah. And I was going to say, did final analysis Kim Basinger naked in this movie yeah and I was gonna say did final analysis pull you from that fallow period of sexuality did she raise you up

it was like a swing shot yeah yeah wow no but like that was like the the sort of like way in which a movie

could have like three lives of both it's like anticipation it's theater and then like the home video cable life of it really made these movies,

which now in looking at the list, you're like, jeez, this might... I want to save the 92 talk. I want to hear about what Amanda was up to in 92. But you really did have a pretty deep relationship with movies back then. Yeah. Amanda, set the scene for us.

So 92, you're in Georgia. I'm in Georgia. I turned eight years old in the year 1992. And I don't know if you two remember being a Mets fan and a Braves fan. I'm sorry, a Phillies fan, respectively. But this was a big year for the Braves. I'm actually... So, Kaya McCollum is...

Is this Sid Bream? This is Sid Bream. Okay. And I was at the sid bream game so this is game seven after the national league championship series bottom of the ninth and two outs and um young amanda had already started crying because she thought that the braves were losing and then the infamous i was sitting on the third baseline with my mother i swear to god and around the third plate, you know, comes Sid Bream.

And that was the most fun I've ever had at a sports event in my entire life. And, you know, kind of starts the Braves ascendancy in the 90s, which was a very big deal to me and causes pain to the two of you. I'm glad that Kaya is here covering our show, Kaya McMullen is, but also I'm sad that Bobby isn't here because I wanted to rub it in his face as well even though i believe he was not born not born in 1992 yeah i don't think kaya was either but that's okay kaya keep shining um so i was eight and as as chris said i didn't as a result see all of these movies when they came out because once again I was eight. But it is a pretty remarkable year in terms of my interests, both the movies I saw later. And I got to tell you, the movies I saw at the time as a kid, some great kids movies this year. So that's going to be an interesting, like, how much am I going to honor, you know, contemporary 1992 Amanda versus who that young woman would become?

I'm not really sure yet. It kind of depends on the draft order and frankly, how one movie falls, which we all know what it is, but we don't need to name it. And I hope you guys are afraid. You're talking about The Crying Game is the one. Yeah, I am. How'd you know? Yeah.

We decided not to do this podcast in person to retain hostility. Well, I'd like to talk to Amanda about that, Chris, because you and I discussed that. And we have the opportunity now to go into the offices at Spotify to record. Chris and I got a chance to record together. It was a lot of fun. Amanda, you and I have spent countless hours together face-to-face making pods. But the draft started during the pandemic. Yeah.

Right. And this added a new wrinkle to this show. And it kind of changed this pod and frankly changed my relationship to both of you. I used to love both of you and now you're my mortal enemies. And do you think you could do this face-to-face? Yeah, of course.

And would it work still? Have you seen the Roger Deakins draft? Yeah, we did it. Oh, that was Hall of Fame. But yeah, we did that in person. That's true. There would be a lot more laughing, I think, probably. The issue is that we would all probably start making faces at each other and do a lot of

physical taunting, essentially. And I don't know how you communicate that via audio, but we could try. But yes. You think I would be too nice to you in person? I don't know. I'm not sure. Listen, man. Knox has changed my life, but not that much. What if I drafted with Alice in my lap? I do like Alice.

Then what would you do? But Alice makes the same face that you do when she's angry about something. So I mean, I guess that would work in a way. Does Alice also have a lot of time to spend arguing about the rules and regulations of voting processes? She doesn't, but she's adopting one trait of mine, which is that she's really interested in items

that are organized on shelves, particularly books and Blu-rays. So we're going to start putting her to work soon, kind of reorganizing all the Blu-rays down here. And then she can learn. Then she can learn about the spines and what's inside the spines

and help me draft in the future. What's going to happen to Jade? She's like, I'm throwing all your David Fincher DVDs across the room because it's funny. That's the day she is

kicked to the corner. You know? I was going to ask which one she's eating. Good luck. Well, yeah, she's definitely chewing on everything too.

That's an issue. Okay, so duly noted on whether or not we should do these in person, which means we will, maybe hopefully sometime in the future. But in 1992, I was 10. And my lasting memory of that is somewhat related to what you were saying, Chris, which is this is the year, if I recall correctly, when my mom agreed to let me start making pics at Blockbuster. This was the year when she was like,

get anything you want as long as it's not an absolutely terrible horror movie um i don't think she would have let me take out final analysis but i don't think i was interested in final analysis and this is it it's very similar to how i operate right now which is we would go to blockbuster and some people would go and they would say like oh my god is i don't know is is unforgiven available today and you'd go and look and there'd be 40 copies of unforgiven at block go and they would say like, oh my God is, I don't know, is Unforgiven available today? And you'd go and look and there'd be 40 copies of Unforgiven at Blockbuster and they'd all be taken out. And so people would say, well, that was the only movie I wanted to see.

And they'd leave. I would want to spend like north of 98 minutes inside of Blockbuster looking at every box, touching every box, turning it over, pretending to read it and making a serious decision. And so even if I haven't seen every movie from this year, I have engaged with the information about every movie from this year. And I feel like this might have been- You've internalized Jennifer Eight somehow. Yes. And I definitely haven't seen it. That's a perfect example. And I think this set me off on the course. This set me off on the Letterboxd course, set me off on the course. This set me off on the letterbox course, set me off on the spreadsheet course. I feel like it shaped me this particular approach.

I don't know why. I want to touch things that I can't have. That's an ongoing issue for all people in this world. But that's all I can think about is just spending those countless hours in Blockbuster. And my mom, God bless her. She was like, yeah, take your time, hon. Which that's a miracle. Having a child now, I'm like, Alice, let's wrap this up. Like, we gotta, you need to finish this applesauce immediately. Did you ever pull the,

so 10-year-old Sean, right? Yeah. Maybe he's even got a little piece of paper of movies he wants to see in the back pocket of his Bugle Boys. Did you ever pull the, like, go up to the guy at the counter of blockbuster he's resplendent and khakis and a golf shirt and you're like do you guys have uh unforgiven and he's like

they're all taken and then that guy might say like but there's another one due back you know they're due back and you'd be like i fucking i wait then we're waiting here for unforgiven i was hoping that's where you were going but yes and. And you would literally have to stand next to the return box and wait to see what would come through the chute. Oh, yes. Yes, I did this too. And if it came through, you would be like, that's mine. And people would wait in line at the return box.

The return box would be three people deep with the hope of getting sent of a woman. Imagine that in our on-demand culture now where you can order anything you want at any time. The way we would have to wait for some stranger to bring back a piece of plastic and put it in a hole and then we'd have to grab it before someone else could grab it.

That in itself is like a dystopian future, not a past. It's amazing that that's how we lived. But that's how we forged movie lovers. It's true. I was really insistent on going through like the pile of return movies being like, are you sure? Are you sure it's not there? Just let me sort through for you, which just really says everything you need to know about me.

Do you think maybe somebody put the tape in the wrong case? Yeah, would you open the cases? And like, I would definitely do it. Man, man, we had it so bad back then, but I thought it was so good. At the time, I was like, this is great. They're letting me bad back then, but I thought it was so good. At the time, I was like, this is great. They're letting me look inside these boxes.

I can do whatever I want. Things have changed so radically. Anyway, 1992 was a pretty great year for movies. What are the signal events we should talk to? We always talk about the Oscars from that year. So let's talk about them pretty quickly. Can I just say, Sean, I'd like you not to undersell this.

It's not just a pretty good year. I would argue that this is the platonic big picture movie year. What makes you say that? Because I know that there are between 5 and 10 all-time classics that we all love that we'll talk about in this episode, but what does the

platonic ideal mean? So there's a couple of things going on here. For one thing, I think some of the most popular movies are also the best movies, which is a cool place to be because you just get to enjoy the movie, talk about that movie. I mean, obviously, 8, 10, 15, we weren't doing a lot of coffee side chats about cinema, but I think that these movies were in the cultural mix in a big way. Number two, I think this is super important. The biggest movie stars seemed very engaged with making interesting movies and Daniel Day-Lewis going from like, wow, is this guy the best actor of his generation? And now he's going to try and be an action star?

That's amazing. To Tom Cruise, biggest movie star of his generation, choosing to be the lead in a dramatic Aaron Sorkin movie where he has thousands of lines of dialogue to deliver in a convincing way. So I just think that there was like a little bit of like a perfect, uh, harmony between like mass entertainment and really,

really good, like building blocks, movie making. Amanda, do you, do you agree? Like, do you feel like since you were not as deeply engaged in what was coming

out moment to moment, does this feel like a platonic ideal year for you? I think so. And Chris was texting me about this last night. And I would say it's like 92 and 95 are the 90s years. And because I was a little older in 95, I think 95 is the year that I become a sentient movie person. Just because I could go see Clueless,

which came out that year in the movie theater. But I don't know if you guys had this experience making your lists. There's something in every category here. It's a really deep year. So I don't know if that just says something about how we, because this fits how we structure the drafts, that it fits what our idea of movie going should be, which probably makes sense because this is all

when we learned to go to the movies simultaneously. But yeah, there's a lot of choice and a lot of movies that I look back fondly on, you know, having been eight years old and then a lot of movies I discovered later that kind of created my idea of what grown up movies should be. Yes, that's that's something that is resonant for me too. The idea of like aspirational movie lifestyle. Seeing adults doing intelligent things

on screen just feels like something, you know, where you're sort of like, oh, this is how I'm supposed to act in a weird way. I never feel that way when I watch movies now, not just because of how old I am, but because everything feels so fantasy-bound and this felt like the real world. Even in the case of Batman Returns and Home Alone 2, I was like, this feels this felt like the real world even in even in the case of batman returns and home alone

too i was like this feels much more like even like the sports movies in this year have like people who are like i'm fucked up and addicted to gambling i'm like you know my relationship is up in the air there was more sex in these movies yeah i mean it's just it's just like a lot like more real in a lot of ways it feels like there feels like there's two sort of parallel tracks of movie making and movie industry happening at this time. One, you've got the early 90s. So you've got kind of this, all of the learnings from the new Hollywood colliding with the kind of like a go-go flashy empty 80s.

And those two things have kind of coalesced together where you've got plenty of people who know all about the 70s movies getting old enough to start making movies. But the 80s movie industry that has forged itself at the center of American culture is here and it's here to stay. Plus you've got the rise of the Bill Clinton presidency and Gen X,

and you've also got the rise of Sundance. In 1992, we did an episode earlier this year with Adam Neiman about the importance of Sundance in 1992 and how it really, in the aftermath of Sex, Lies, and Videotape and the rise of Soderbergh and then the emergence of Quentin Tarantino, changed movies really for the decade to come. And so it's this interesting convergence point

that I think gives us a lot of cool indie small stuff that people have discovered over the years, gives us a lot of obvious mainstream stuff, still gives us stuff that you can find in the 2020s. There's still superhero movies here. There's still, you know, big, bold storytelling from auteurs that would be nominated at the Academy Awards. I don't know if it's my absolute favorite movie year of all time. 2007 probably still holds that title for me. But it's pretty high on the list. It's definitely pretty high. And Amanda, I agree with you.

There's like, no one's going to really fail during this draft. Yeah, but we're all also going to fight for a couple things. And some of us might be really put out if we don't get them. And some of us might say hateful things. Some of us? Sean might take Aladdin first, so. Yeah. What's wrong with Aladdin?

The number one grossing movie of the year. You definitely should take it first then. Yeah. Have you seen Aladdin, Chris? No. Oh my God. That's crazy to me. I mean, listen, not to be the queen of animated movies.

My son has not seen any animated movies in case anyone's watching, but he has seen Marry Me. Okay. We live our values in this house. Yeah. That was his first movie. But he also watched nine Sixers games. Yeah, that is really true.

America wants to know your marry me take. Um, I just, Jennifer Lopez looks fantastic is what I have to say. And I really admired that movie as a testament to the idea that she looks fantastic, which seems to be its animating principle. You remember the like five minute scene of Jennifer Lopez just doing yoga. And she's like doing exposition while just doing a full yoga routine. I enjoyed it. I'm really happy for her. I don't look like that. And she does. And she's worked hard for it. And I'm happy for her. I'm happy for her and Ben Affleck.

It's been a tremendous tabloid time for yours, truly. I don't understand why they need to make it legal. At this point, it seems like we're just confusing finances, but I'm happy for them and I'm happy for us. They gave me a draft win and joy and I didn't really give them anything, but I support them. Going back to Aladdin, I saw Aladdin three times in a movie theater

when I was nine years old. This was a thing, Chris. It was a huge thing i don't doubt it yeah uh what the for me the number one reason why is because of robin williams when you're nine years old and robin williams is the genie and this is one of the reasons why i went to man then i had a legendary conversation about the live action aladdin which is one of the weirdest movies ever made oh right you were so upset about i was not into it oh my god guys yeah because we haven't yeah problem oh yeah I haven't. We haven't. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. We haven't even. I don't want to talk about that. I don't want to do it either. I'm just like, I was really bummed out. I texted Sean and Bill. Oh, no.

And that's what I feel. I just, I feel really bummed out. I think you and I can do a diagnostic on that whole event like at the three-month mark, Amanda,

and we can kind of get into our feelings. But I have been reluctant to even dig much further. No, I think that's right. I just as soon as we said his name, I felt sad. Anyhow, Aladdin was a huge movie that year.

The top of the box office was not actually all that memorable. Home Alone 2. Lethal Weapon 3. Lethal Weapon 3. Batman Returns. Great movie. But everything from like 5 to 15 is like, oh shit. These these are all good we won't spoil that we'll wait till we start getting into the draft itself you know the oscars of course this is the

unforgiven year um and so you know best picture and best director go to clint eastwood for unforgiven and you know it's a it's a makeup year for al pacino and son of a woman and and amanda's queen emma thompson is best actress for her work in Howard's End. Hackman also won for Unforgiven, and the legendary Marisa Tomei victory for her performance in My Cousin Vinny. Pretty good slate. Certainly felt like a time when the Oscars fucking mattered. That was the other thing I was going to say about why this year really fits into the big picture cosmos of like, what do we want out of a movie year? And it's like really fun, big hits, really provocative,

interesting, auteur driven stuff, big movie stars doing cool shit and a good Oscars year. You hit those four things. That's a great year. I mean, let me just read the 10 male nominees at the Oscars. Al Pacino, who wins. Robert Downey Jr., Clint Eastwood, Stephen Ray, Denzel Washington. Gene Hackman, who wins supporting. Jay Davidson, Jack Nicholson, Al Pacino again, and David Pamer. That's like five to seven of the greatest movie stars of all time.

And you know who's not in there? Tom Cruise, which is a freaking outrage. That's what I have to say. Wow. I thought you were going to say Kevin Pollack. Yeah, well. Can you imagine Pollack and Pamer going up head-to-head

with one another? Two all-time that-guy goats. Yeah. Pollack and Pamer. Love those guys. Okay. You want to draft? Let's do it.

Let's do it. This is a big moment for Kaia McMullen. Oh, yeah. So how do we do this? this kaya how are you deciding on the order i have a wheel at the ready i hope i don't mess this up we believe in you help me out kaya sean oh yeah oh no wow even kaya was disappointed did you hear that in her voice? No one's rooting for you. Do I spin it again or am I done? You do spin it again.

Now you have to do the second one more time. Yeah, you have to decide the second one. Here we go. Chris. God damn it. Is that bad? You get the two. I feel like that's good, Amanda. I feel like that's good.

I don't know. I have to be honest. I am realizing now I've been living in like a very happy magical bubble and it didn't even occur to me that I wouldn't be able to get the movie that I think you're gonna take and I'm so upset right now it's like right now in this moment is the first time I'm considering that I'm not getting this movie um and you can do it it's fine I'm a grown-up now you know I'm responsible for other lives but like I I am pretty. So and I just kind of believe it's rigged, but whatever. Go ahead.

You believe it's rigged? Yeah. We removed Bobby Wagner. If anything, Christian had gotten the first pick working with Kaya, his longtime producer of The Watch. Do you even know what percentage of votes you got last time? Like, do they measure that small or is it just, you know, there's no room for the number? Welcome back to the show, Amanda. Yeah, no yeah no problem i'm really really upset right now i'm just lashing out uh yeah i mean i of course if you're this is i don't even have a strategy now because my whole

like that's a house of cards the whole draft it's It's really too bad we can't do trades on this show. It's going to be fine. It's going to be fine. If you want, you guys can trade me. What do I want? What do I want from you both? I mean, CR, if you're content to stay with me,

I'm not trading you anything. We can live bargain, Amanda. I was assuming I wasn't going to get the movie we were talking about because I would either... Normally, I'm ready for worst case. I don't know.

I guess I became like an optimist or something. And now I just feel leveled. But like, no, it's worse. I feel awful. This is terrible. Go ahead. Just get it over with. If this is your first time listening to a draft, we do so in snake fashion.

We've got six categories. We each draft a movie in these categories. Here are the categories for the 1992 movie draft. There's drama. There's drama. There's comedy. There's Oscar nominee. There is an expanded fourth category that includes action,

horror, and thrillers. There's a blockbuster category. We have lowered the threshold on blockbuster to $75 million or more, commensurate with The Times 30 years ago. And there's a wildcard category. The movie that amanda is so bereft i just i feel really i just feel tired and sad kaya i want you to know i don't blame you if bobby were here i might blame him but i don't blame you um the movie is a few good men that's

the movie i thought it was Hoffa. My bad. A Few Good Men is the, the rewatchables of A Few Good Men is the most jealous I've ever been to not be on a podcast. And I thought you two did splendidly on that episode. I think that was like the third or fourth episode, right?

Yeah. Do you say that just because you don't think Bill did splendidly or? No, Bill was wonderful. Bill is always wonderful on the rewatchables. It's the most rewatchable. I think it's the most rewatchable movie.

I think it is. Definitely the most quotable, I think. Up there with Goodfellas, yeah. This is well before we were made cynical about Aaron Sorkin. When I saw this movie, I was like, this is the greatest writer who has ever lived. He wrote this movie. This is our Keats. That, of course course was ridiculous,

but you know, there's something so exciting when you see someone so smart putting pen to paper and making beautiful people look brilliant. Like that's part of what makes this movie so exciting. Um, and so I, I have, I,

I have, I have to go with it. Um, yeah, I, I, what category I'm, I'm a little bit torn on where it should go.

I mean, it, it basically fits in an Oscar nominee it fits in drama and I believe it fits in in blockbuster as well right sure does yeah it's also really it's also really funny you could say it's a comedy yeah it is remember

when like for Sutherland's character crack on movies like this? You're a lousy ball player, Jack. Um, hmm. He really does think better with that bat. Gosh.

I don't, actually, I haven't even thought this far. I'm the opposite of you, Amanda. I did think that. I thought I had no chance

at this for whatever reason. I thought the only way I could have gotten it is if I got the first pick. I haven't had the first pick in a while. I haven't either. Weird that you remember that. the first pick I'm not first pick in a while um I haven't either weird that you remember that yeah because I'm on I'm on a cold streak CR

this game is rigged I'm so sad I love this movie for the like two weeks that I was on letterbox this was my favorite movie on letterbox uh guys loose I'm gonna take it in Blockbuster. Okay.

Interesting. Okay. Why not? It's not a bad idea. There's not a ton of great Blockbusters at this threshold. And if we had made it 100 million, it would have been really tough.

But we didn't do that. Yes. You think it's fair to be at 75, right? Yeah, I do. I mean, there's only... I think it's fun. Okay. Kaya, as we're going along, if you can fill out our picks on this sheet it'd be much appreciated um so I'm going a few good men in

blockbuster Amanda don't don't fret don't don't be sad you have a beautiful son first of child he's a healthy giant baby he is my large infant son um yeah he's he's great i love him so much but i was really looking forward to showing him this movie and being able to say that i got this in the draft when do you think you'll show it to him like um probably i'll just have it on background i mean we got to make a decision about the screens really soon. You know, Sean, I know that you were talking about this on the mailbag, but my son is three months old and has figured out where the TV is and like how to contort himself in order to watch the Sixers embarrass themselves in front of the nation,

which they just, he was very disappointed with the choices that both Doc Rivers and James Harden made. What choices? Yeah. It's a great, I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that.

Like exactly. Rippling in place for 15 seconds. Yeah, exactly. Just like Knox. Um, so I don't know, but this is one of the things I just like him to learn by osmosis to

appreciate this. Cause if he doesn't like this, like tough times for me and my kid you know i need him to like the beach and i need him to like movies where people say witty things very quickly um because and if he doesn't like that then he's not gonna like any of us it's a fine line right like you you want you need to indoctrinate but not too hard don't oversell if you oversell they'll reject it and hate it so the tough one i think on in the background over the first five years is the way to go right and uh and also just yell it you can't handle the truth at him it's always i feel like the parents who are like yeah you know what i was

listening to the white album with my child and he made me hear it in a totally new way and then the next day that kid is like i no longer listen listen to music. I just watch Polar Bears skateboarding on TikTok. You know, and then that is it. And then maybe like 10 years later, they'll listen to Dua Lipa.

But like that's, it's like, it's the people who press too hard. That's when they get rejected. On the other hand, maybe I'll just use this to teach him manners,

you know, like you have to ask me nicely over and over again. That's my parenting style. You should give him like weird nicknames. You should call him use this to teach him manners you know like you have to ask me nicely over and over again that's that's my parenting style you should give him like weird nicknames you should call him like colonel markinson and just see if he goes see if he replies to that that's tough you doctor the law books um okay chris you have the second pick yeah um i don't like it i don't love it i wish i had the two i wish i had amanda's slot

there but i'm just gonna go with reservoir dogs and drama here so uh i think that this kind of sets me up for where i want to go uh drama's a good category this year there's a bunch i could take i think i've forgot that quentin didn't get nominated for original screenplay for this i think i thought maybe in the back of my head that was the case. But Reservoir Dogs changed my life. I remember seeing this in the movie theater and walking out and just being like, I can see the world in completely technicolor now. So it would be silly not to pick it.

Reservoir Dogs is good. Huge fan of that film. That's twice in a row I've passed up on PT. Chris, let me ask you this. Go ahead. If Sean had taken Reservoir Dogs first, would you have taken

A Few Good Men number two? The thing is that we don't have to find that out. That's what's great. You know that I wouldn't be as upset with you as I would be with him. I mean, but

I'm just curious whether you and I have been brave enough. I think I would have considered it. It's also just like a great movie to have. You know what I mean? Like there are some where I'd be like, if I was like, I took like Emma from you or something,

you know, I think that would be weird. But like a few good men, I think any one of the three of us would be. It's shared. Yeah. So you get two now. Yeah. I can't say I'm thrilled about it.

So I guess I'm just going to. Okay. I'm looking at my list as I said you know I had a strategy and that was a part of it and now it's no longer available to me let me ask you let me ask you something

before you make your pick was Reservoir Dogs on your radar at all? no I was gonna no I mean I was too young do you like that movie? it's not my you know

it's not the type of movie that I love to watch over and over again. So as a result, it's like not my favorite Tarantino, but I enjoy the world of Quentin Tarantino. So I admire all of them. My favorites and Glorious Bastards, which makes sense because of the types of movies that I like to watch. But it's certainly not one that I saw in 1992. I think I'm going to go with two movies that I also did not see in 1992,

but saw later. I guess I'm going to be strategic. So I'm going, we've changed the category to action thriller. Instead of action horror, because I thought it would be more fun to include the great thriller crop from this year. Yes. Great intro to me taking basic instinct in action thriller, which you just have to um i've been listening to a lot of the rewatchables while i walk my son around the neighborhood um you guys you guys are pretty charming on that podcast congratulations um i'm like oh i remember why i like them and then i do podcasts with you and you take a few good men away from me but it's okay um i listened to the Basic Instinct podcast

at some point. I really recommend that for anyone who wants to just, who really kind of wants to relive the energy of the 2003 movie draft, but with more innuendo and more Chris Bleshing.

There was a lot of talk of chafing on that pod, if I remember correctly. I mean, this is like just one of the great neo-noir movies of like our lifetimes of, of the genre, uh, a truly iconic Sharon stone performance.

You don't even need for me to say why. Um, I saw this movie after I saw The American President like 45 times. So I was very dispirited to see what Michael Douglas was up to before I got to know him. But that's okay. And it's just pitch perfect. I spent a lot of time thinking about this house and how much I would like to live in this house. It's not just the performances. It's not just the provocative subject matter. Every note is pitch perfect.

And it made hundreds of millions of dollars because Amanda was... Not Amanda, but lol. America was a really weird place in 1992. Yeah, tremendous Freudian slip. Amanda, let me just interrupt you quickly to ask Chris a point blank question. Over, under, you've cranked it to basic instinct a thousand times in your life. Just answer

the question. It's a direct question. Is this your version of did you order the code red on yourself? I want the truth! Sean, Chris is blushing. I will happily tell you, you can't handle the truth. You don't want to know.

Yeah. Fair enough. Amanda, you got another pick? Yeah. So I don't know what category I'm going to take this in. I guess I will do drama. Yeah, I'll do drama. And I'm going to take the player, is the robert altman uh hollywood

satire that was also recently featured on the rewatchables with wesley that's a good podcast uh i get it and um i think this is another one that i saw much later because in 1992 i was eight and also i wouldn't have understood any of the hollywood jokes but I think this was one of my first kind of like behind the curtain Hollywood movies, the, you know, how the magic gets made or how the sausage gets made. And trying to understand some of the jokes and not really getting the jokes and then like doing some more reading and starting to understand where they are. And then that movie is really funny again to watch once you've moved to los angeles and kind of know some of the locations and like know another layer of the jokes but i mean it's just a masterpiece and uh if you haven't seen it a really great

movie for anyone who wants to listen to this podcast so uh it's a great pick it's you know it's a sad thing because fred ward died today yeah yeah as we're recording the great fred ward one of the great character actors in hollywood over the last 40 years he's hilarious as the head of security in the player and as a guy who's obsessed with um with tracking shots and there are two different scenes in which he is speaking at length about tracking shots and what hollywood has lost and i gotta say as i was revisiting that this morning thinking about him and his career, I realized that that's my whole podcast person

is Fred Ward and the player. And I'm very sorry. How did that make you feel? Pretty sad, but we should celebrate the man and celebrate the film. So it's a good pick. If you haven't seen The Player,

and we talked about it, Amanda, a few times on this show before too. Yeah. It's a great one. Okay, Sierra, you're up um in much the same way that you saw yourself in fred ward from the player uh i took a look at myself in the mirror today and i was wearing pink shorts tie-dye socks nikes and uh a big crew neck sweatshirt and i realized i look exactly like billy billy hoyle so i'm taking White Man Can't Jump. Wow.

That's good. It might be a reach at two, the second spot. That's a great movie. This was the coolest movie I'd ever seen on a number of levels when this came out. First of all, it was like this expression of like a very electric moment in my life where like I was just absolutely intoxicated by hip-hop

you know and just by like rap culture i was also like playing basketball thought about basketball pretty much not all to all day and all night i would just practice in the morning i practiced in the afternoon i sucked i was five seven i couldn't go left it didn't matter i loved basketball so much and um because you were just like I was on that cusp of like, not, you know, young adulthood at 15, you're just starting to get into that stuff, I guess. Gosh, they get into some adult topics in this film. And it was like, pretty mesmerizing. I remember when I was younger, you know, the first half of the movie that's very basketball heavy and con heavy and like just really fun and

mom jokes. And then the second half of the movie, which is pretty depressing and about like a relationship falling apart and crippling gambling addiction. And it's almost like Goodfellas too, where like later in life, you start to like the depressing gambling addiction part of the movie rather than the beginning. And it's in Goodfellas, like you start getting into the crazy cocaine day, which we just passed the anniversary of the other day um so i'm going with this and i'm going to take it in comedy um rosie perez in 1992 i approve this you've talked about this you both have talked about this a lot it's an important message um yeah it's a pretty big deal that's all i'm gonna say pretty big deal. That's all I'm going to say. Pretty big deal. Definitely

important. Love Why Men Can't Jump. I wouldn't have taken it there, but I also definitely would have wanted to have it. So it's a good pick. I had to also think about whether you would get it in your two here. It wasn't on my radar, if I'm being honest, which is not to say that I don't love it. The next movie I'm going to pick, because I feel comedy is getting a little thin already, is My Cousin Vinny. Now, Chris, you and I talked about My Cousin Vinny on an AMC Blue Moon-sponsored edition of the rewatchables that aired on television.

I still remember it to this day. You guys didn't share any of that Blue Moon with me. Honestly, you could have i think i still have okay okay uh i i drank it all and i enjoyed it um i'm sorry about that amanda but i'll get you some soon and then you know i mean nox is getting we gotta it's almost drinking age for him we gotta get him invested too um my cousin vinny is hilarious holds up not just because of that marissa tomei performance The whole movie through and through. I think I watched it twice

to prepare for that pod. And I had the time of my life. It's a movie that was a family movie. It was on in my house all the time. My dad loved this movie. My mom loved this movie. My siblings loved this movie. Much like a few good men

constantly quoted back and forth to each other. You know, pause attraction, two utes, like all the classic lines from this movie are embedded in my psyche

and I love it. I'm going to take it in comedy. Sean, I think that's both that and A Few Good Men were on our top courtroom dramas. Oh, yeah, right. Which was a podcast

we did like many moons ago at the beginning of the pandemic. I guess it's not surprising that you're just picking a lot of movies of people yelling at each other in a legal setting.

Yeah, which is basically how I conduct this entire podcast all the time. Huh. Okay, a lot of movies of people yelling at each other in a legal setting yeah which is basically how i conduct this entire podcast all the time um huh okay next pick i'm going oscar nominee and i'm going unforgiven oh all right clint eastwood's masterpiece this is a movie that slots into any number of categories blockbuster oscar nominee drama wild card um oscar nominee gets a little thin as we move along here now that i've taken my cousin vinny off the board so i feel like i'm i gotta just secure it unforgiving another movie we've talked about quite a bit on this show the

fact that there's a lot of movies here that we don't feel we have to expound upon too much because there's a lot of history around them just in our conversations i feel like it's pretty important um but it is like it's the ultimate kind of reclamation of Eastwood's character on screen. The ultimate like rejection and analysis of his, you know, man who comes to town and kills everybody movies. And also features incredible supporting performances from Gene Hackman and from Richard Harris and Morgan Freeman. And it's just a really great movie. So I'm going on Forgiven. So I've got three

I've got three good ones to start. I'm feeling pretty good. You did good. You did well. Unforgiven and My Cousin Disney are really good. No one's happy for me here. This is tough. This is tough. I've really ruined my friendships. You owed us

like a one for me pick in there to show that you're not just a fucking robot who's trying to win this vote after the fact. I do owe one in the future, you're saying? No, I just think it would have been fun if you had just been like, here's my personal story and this is why this movie spoke to me more than anything.

And instead you're like, my cousin Vinny. Chris was just like, you suck as a person. That's my review of your draft. I just shared about how my family and i together watched the film my cousin vinny many times and then we shared revelry and and and and great laughter and uh and you said that i'm i'm not a human meanwhile you employ an army of robots they do your bidding. They're just guys who love pods. Yeah, and not one single woman. There's not one living woman who is

enlisted in this army. We're on a podcast with two of them, Amanda and Kaya. I'm not in your army. Amanda is your opponent and Kaya has been forced to produce your show for years. Years! Produce one woman who is in the army.

You can't! Okay, Chris, you're up. Gosh. All right. So let's take... What do I want to do here? So I got comedy. I got drama.

I think for Oscars... Actually, let me revise that. For Blockbuster, I think for Oscars, actually, let me revise that. For Blockbuster, I think I'm going to go with Last of the Mohicans here. Okay. This feels a little chalky.

So, so far I got a Tarantino and a Michael Mann movie, but this was a fucking extraordinary movie going experience. I don't know if, probably not a lot of people

have got a chance to see this since 1992 in the theater, but the overwhelming old-school movie magic meets modern techniques. The fact that he dragged Daniel Day-Lewis and all these people up, Michael Mann dragged all these people up a mountain

in North Carolina and made them live like it was actually colonial times. The score from Trevor Horn, I think, is just one of the most magical, like it was actually a colonial times. The, um, the score from Trevor Horn, I think is just one of the most magical, memorable, um, pieces of movie,

movie scoring you'll hear. And yeah, I, I think this movie is actually like among man's best, which I know I would say that about almost every man movie except for public enemies, but it is, it is a fucking amazing,

amazing experience to see someone as talented as day lewis like transform himself into into like what russell crowe would become you know like a full-on action star you um you would you take this over black hat yeah i would honestly if i'm being honest yeah that's bold. Yeah. Mohicans also are rewatchable. Right? That was, who was that? You and Bill?

It was, yeah. How was that episode? Was that good? Yeah, it was pretty good. I think that, I've never heard the rewatchables. I don't know. You only listen to the ones you're on.

Gosh, I can't remember like whether Bill had any controversial takes on that one. Like Cora, are we sure she's good I know BS is pro Madeline Stowe as is only right yeah

so I'm gonna go with Mohicans and I'll take that in what did I say Blockbuster yeah you did and fun fact this movie made in the United States 75 million and $500,000 so just under the wire as a blockbuster and I it And I think it was eligible

for Oscars because it got sound, right? A sound nomination? Or do you only consider it the top tier? No, it can be any category. So I did get a sound nom, but I'll take it at Oscars.

Okay. Or take it rather a blockbuster. Sorry. Amanda, two picks to you. Right. How are you feeling? Okay.

I think it's going to mostly shake out, except that I didn't get A Few Good Men, one of my top five favorite movies of all time, but whatever. Can we just circle back for a second? How are you feeling about drafting again? You know, it's been a few months. Yeah. I feel like my competitive energy never left me.

It just was put on hold. Okay. And you kind of really unlocked all of it at once by stealing my most beloved movie away from me right at the beginning of the draft. I just kind of went back to... I was prepared to have some fun. And this isn't really that fun for me. No, I'm kidding.

It's sort of fun. But I really wanted that movie. But I feel I've given a lot of thought to it. I spend a lot of time sitting in a dark room pleading with a small human being to go to sleep. So I have some time with my thoughts, you know, and it was nice to have something to organize it towards. I just didn't organize it towards you taking a few good men. Anyway. Thanks for the update.

So I guess I'm going to do one strategic thing here because Oscar nominee is getting a little thin and Chris hasn't picked it yet. And Sean, you haven't picked a drama yet. And I don't know whether you guys would go for this,

but I'm going to take Malcolm X in Oscar. I was going to go for that next. Okay, great. Yes. So an astonishing movie I think Denzel's second best performance which is really saying you know something when it's Denzel Washington and this was probably the Oscar or the first Oscar he should have won but you know

what are you gonna do I know the second oh the second oh that's right he had already won for glory at this point that's right but the first best actor was he nominated for cry freedom I think so yeah

yeah yeah but the first best actor and Spike Lee's second best movie I guess I think if when we rank them

yeah I mean I think you have to put do the right thing above it but just like an extraordinary biopic and extremely like watchable even at three hours long which sometimes those epics can get a little away from whoever's making them at some point but not this movie um just completely engaging i revisited it i guess was it last year or two years ago when the Spike movie, the most recent Spike,

I guess two years ago. Rewatch it if you haven't. It's fantastic. And then, so that was Oscar nominee. I have a second pick. I guess in this one, I can kind of do whatever I want. So I'll go with Blockbuster and I'm getting the Blockbuster that I wanted. This is for young Amanda, a league of their own. Another recent rewatchable, which just Mallory yelling about some of the calls that were made with like pitching out at the final game.

Like I didn't even understand it, but that was some really peak podcast stuff. I love this movie. I remember seeing this movie in theaters. I went at like seven or eight years old. As previously discussed,

had a real love of baseball at this point. Loved seeing women playing baseball. One of the great Tom Hanks performances. One of the great Geena Davis performances.

One of the great theme songs for a national sports league. And one of the great gina davis performances one of the great theme songs for a national sports league and one of the great madonna performances rosie o'donnell also loved her tv show because i was a 90s kid um just an absolute classic this this is one of the great sports movies in my opinion great pick i would have felt bad about taking that one away from you too. And I would have, if it had gotten back to me, I would have. Yeah. Um,

okay. CR you're up. So Sean, do you have your Oscar? Um, have I won an Academy award? Yeah. Did you get, did they finally recognize your contributions to film?

Uh, yes, they did. They did. And that was for craft services. You just, no, I think it was for my performance in um creating this movie pod

format that has allowed you to thrive so deeply the two fuck off the two of you guys have uh your oscar dom picks we do yeah i have unforgiven and amanda has malcolm x okay um i don't know if i would miss this movie if I didn't take it here, but I'm going to bank on being able to get my Oscar movie, just for fun, just to give people an idea of what I'm thinking, get my Oscar movie coming back around.

So for wild card, I am going to take Sneakers. CR classic. Yeah, I love this movie. I'm really happy with these picks that I've made like these are all honestly like some of the movies I've watched the most in my life this was one that I watched a lot with my mom so I just

she loved this movie and I watched it tons and tons of times with her on cable or we would we had a VHS of this and this was always the reliable like should we put a movie on what should we watch what should we watch it would just be sneakers it is a comic espionage caper starring uh robert redford dan ackroyd river phoenix a villain performance from uh ben kingsley which is delightful and over the

top um david strathern is really good in this sydney poitier is really good in this. And Mary McDonald. So, very early 90s cast. Among the last few dashing Redford performances, I would say. Right? Wow. Rude. I mean, Old Man and the Gun, he was still dashing to me. Okay. I'll allow it. I'm just saying.

You know what? Robert Redford aging very well. Okay. But I'm still going to take sneakers and I'll put this on. Wait, what about his work in The Winter Soldier? Did you not think that was good? Yeah, that's right. He was pretty hot in that. You're right.

Yeah. What about his work in Up Close and Personal? What was the one that he was like where he's... That's an amazing... Don't diss that movie. I'm not. Yeah. Written by Joan Didion and John Gregory Dunn.

Yeah. Well, I'm going with sneakers here okay um cool people love that movie i've never really i like it phil alden robinson right that's yeah the filmmaker dreams in this yeah interesting cv um okay two picks for me my open categories at the moment are drama and action horror thriller and wild card in drama i'm gonna pick another talky movie that i watched a billion times that i became obsessed with that i think is an early entry point for my friendship with cr and that movie's glenn gary glenn i fucking yeah so our friendship's over i oh my god i can't i can't

believe you took sneakers over this movie you knew you would have had sneakers on the back end and Gary Glenn. I fucking hate you. So our friendship's over. Oh my God. I can't believe you took sneakers over this movie. You knew you would have had sneakers on the back end. It hadn't even occurred to me that that would be your nominee.

But of course it was. Chris! Come on, Chris. What are you doing, bud? You know what's the most painful is he was doing it as, you know, a tribute to you.

I mean, yeah. Thanks for fucking me. But Mamet, like Nas and Jay-Z I mean, yeah. Thanks for fucking me. But Mammoth, like Nas and Jay-Z and Post Punk and Martin Scorsese and The Wire, these were things that Chris and I really clicked on.

There were a handful of topics where we were like, boom, 2004, this is the stuff we love. We have a lot in common. And the NBA, of course. We talked about the NBA all the time. And Mammoth was one of them um and this script and adaptation of his stage plays problem is it his greatest it's probably his greatest right yeah i think so yeah i mean it's the fact that they wrote i think the fact that the alec baldwin speech gets added to this is what

elevates it from beyond. Because you can say like, oh, I saw David Morse do this and Steppenwolf and it was amazing or whatever. Very few people can say that. But the addition of an authentic mammoth scene specifically for the film takes this movie into another dimension, I think. Although, obviously, Pacino's transcendent in it actually chris and you know you and i were texting this week about uh about margin call in part because the stock market is in a very very bad place and and uh how margin call to me is one of the most rewatchable youtube scene movies where i'll just like dial up a scene from the movie the number one youtube scene movie is glengarry glenn ross because of that alec baldwin scene and

a handful of other scenes that are incredible. But that is, you know, it's kind of to the point parody at this point, how much people quote and cite that sequence. But it's amazing.

And, you know, directed by James Foley, who's a kind of like journeyman filmmaker who doesn't have like a huge reputation like a lot of the people who've made films on the list

that we've drafted so far. But a very well-made version of this story as well. So Glengarry ross and drama and where am i headed next in action oh sorry no go ahead i was gonna fill time you know while you were making your strategy but you know you're right well i was just gonna say i think that weirdly glenn garrigan glenn ross is one of the movies i did see maybe not in 92 but 93 because this is another of the my I did see, maybe not in 92, but 93, because this is another of the, my dad tried to show me movies that were wildly inappropriate for me at a, not wildly inappropriate,

but that I just didn't get, you know, but he was like, here's what you need is another movie about a bunch of guys shit talking each other in rooms for like two hours. Here you go. Always be closing. But I, so I have very fond memories of it. Do you, are you, why. Why are you emotionally drawn to that, Amanda? And why have you put yourself in a world in which that is something that happens every day? Well, I think because my father was like, here, this is how the world is from a young... And then I watched it in movies and I was like, I guess this is what I'm supposed to do. I don't mean... My dad's great. Love my dad. But yeah, I don't know. I don't think I understood this movie when I was nine nine i'm not

sure i understand it now but i'm still intoxicated by it okay next category is a action horror thriller i'm taking batman returns um just like no reaction from chris is chris is just like mad just dead-eyed i'm just you did this to yourself i know this is me this is like it's just like i just feel like fucking doc rivers took over my body for like 30 seconds i was so confused when he took sneakers because i know i was like can i just tell you i've done three sixers podcasts in 15 hours and i was like you know what but this will be great it's like a palate cleanser to see my buddies and talk about movies i like and get away from failure and get away from like fucking deja vu

where you just are like watching people come to Philadelphia and fall apart. And now I feel like I've got this stink on me. Like I just feel like I just dribbled into the top of a 3-2 zone and bam out of bio and Jimmy Butler just tore my arms off my body and hit me with my arms.

I took Batman Returns, an incredible movie. Tim Burton's sequel to the original Batman, which we also just did on the rewatchable. So we haven't done Batman Returns yet. I hope we do at some point. Probably best remembered for the dual villains of the Penguin and Catwoman, as played by Danny DeVito and Michelle Pfeiffer.

Incredible Michelle Pfeiffer performance in this movie. Really, really wild adaptation that looks nothing like any comic book movie we see today. Very, very esoteric and gorgeous production design and a really fun flick. And also a good action movie. So feel good about that one. And CR, you're up now

in a world without Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross. It's just, it's, I hate to see it for myself. So now I guess I have to take Scent of a Woman because even though I've always kind of in the back of my head been like blamed

Al Pacino for beating for winning over Denzel Washington and not even this is not even my favorite Al Pacino movie of the year because that's fucking Glenn Gary Glenn Ross which I just like let because I was feeling sentimental about my mom for like 15 seconds and now it was nice though that was a nice image

so yeah but Scent of a that was a nice image uh so yeah but cinema woman is a campus drama which is like a sub-genre i like a lot and i do think it is like the complete statement movie where you're just like gosh you know for like the two hours that i was in the theater watching al pacino take a flamethrower to everything it's like really really enjoyable um i have I really given it much thought or has it lasted in my mind? I don't really return to this movie a lot. But of the remaining Oscar movies, if I'm being honest, like I don't I haven't watched Howard's End, this version of Howard's End in a really, really long time. I very much enjoyed the mini

series they made out of it a few years ago. Yeah, but I think it's I think it's better. I mean, listen, Emma Thompson forever. But right. And she does win the Oscar for this. But she also won an Oscar for Sense and Sensibility. And that's more important to me. So I'll go send a woman. You guys checked up on Chris O'Donnell recently. Now, how's he up to? I literally was just on his Instagram the other day. So I just love to tell you about it. Well, obviously, he's super rich because he was on NCIS. And so, you know, he founded a pizza chain, Pizzana. Oh. And like Pizzana is getting into the like gold belly business, I believe.

And so his Instagram is just like Chris O'Donnell as a dad in like a fleece vest, just being like, here's how you can like order Pizzana and like doing SponCon. Fascinating trajectory. That guy's a coward for not naming it Pete's O'Donnell. Chris, I don't understand how you picked an Al Pacino movie and we have not gotten one scintilla of Pacino out of you. He's mad at you because we can't have nice things

when you act this way. Sean, what way? All train compartments smell vaguely of shit. Most of what he says in Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross is not repeatable in Good Company. That's very true. I feel like you should open every pod with, I'm just getting warmed up. Like that should be how you open every, no?

You know what I actually will say about, Scent is a very, PCA PSH in this one he is this is a great Hoffman prick role he's an absolute shit heel yeah who turns states evidence on Chris O'Donnell pizza O'Donnell yeah yeah yeah

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Okay, Amanda, you ready to make some picks? Yeah, I am. This half is actually, I'm getting everything that I wanted except for one thing. So, you know. Ain't that just life? That is. It is. Including in comedy, which frankly, I can't believe this is on the board.

I revisited one movie for this draft. It was Sister Act. And I have to tell you, I was like oh i'll just like watch the first 20 minutes because i haven't seen it like probably in like 25 years uh i watched i want to say three fourths of this movie and i would have finished it if like a child hadn't been screaming in the other room i loved this movie as a child and this movie also i want to let you know holds up it is still really funny whoopi is amazing in it i think this is how i learned i want to let you know, holds up. It is still really funny. Whoopi is amazing in it. I think this is how I learned.

I mean, it's, you know, peak like 92 nonsense. You know, everything like works out and somehow none singing gets like the punk youths off the street and into the church. But it's comforting in that ridiculous way. And the musical performances are very funny. And I just this movie meant a lot to me. So did the sequel, to be quite honest. Had both on VHS, and it made a tremendous amount of money.

I could have also taken this in Blockbuster, but I'm taking it in comedy. I have a question for you both. Can you name the director of the film Sister Act? No, and I looked it up. I was doing my research, but now I still don't remember it. Stanley Kubrick. Close. Not quite. No? No guesses. No. Well, I already told you. I forgot. I can Google. I mean, I'm in front of my computer, but I'm trying to be honest here. It's a very interesting thing because this is a very important director of the 1980s and early 90s

who has a very low critical reputation, which is, I think, a travesty. His name is Emil Artelino. And Emil Artelino has directed a few films that were huge hits. Oh, that's right. He also directed Dirty Dancing. Dirty Dancing.

He also directed Chances Are and Three Men and a Little Lady before directing Sister Act. So he directed Three Men and a Little Lady, Dirty Dancing, and Sister Act. And that five-year corridor are three of the biggest dramedies of their era. Artelino was openly gay and died of complications from AIDS in the early 90s. So he just does not have this major reputation despite making these iconic movies that people love. People to this day love those movies. So fascinating figure in the history of Hollywood who doesn't get talked about a lot.

Dirty Dancing and Sister Act, two extremely formative movies. That's amazing. Truly. Yeah, it is amazing. The other, I have my wild card left and I will be taking The Cutting Edge. Oh, wow. Of course I will be taking the cutting edge oh wow great of course I will come on one of the great sports films one of the great romantic comedies um which I I don't think of it I think of it first as a sports film even though it really is like a very traditional

romantic comedy as well taught me a lot about hockey taught me a lot about the olympics and really like came in 92 was like peak olympics because that was what was that like albertville and barcelona is that right or maybe albert albertville was 88 i can't remember barcelona yeah yeah um but they still did winter and summer in the same year in 92 right oh i thought they were alternate years. I can't remember. Anyway, I loved the Olympics at this age, really from this age right through the Olympics being in Atlanta in 96. So this taught me a lot about ice sports, Olympics, a certain type of individual who plays hockey and the appeal of that certain type of individual uh maura kelly and and you know is an 82 movie but has like some real classic 80s leftovers from the music to the windbreakers to the training montage great training montage in this movie um so i accept the cunning edge in

wildcard very amanda pick this is two very amanda drafts in a row i yeah i admire your uh stick-to-itiveness um i can only be myself you're you're setting when you prevent me from it well you're setting a great example for your son you know that you're you're about integrity that's that's true chris can you say that you're about integrity you are you took sneakers you love sneakers yeah and i'm gonna take a movie next that I am like, it's probably not that popular, but I need to take it because I need to be honest about it. In 1992, I saw this movie and I was like,

this is the best movie I've ever seen in my life. I saw it in the theater. This was a moment. We've talked about this moment before. It's when we all thought Billy Bob Thornton might be Orson Welles. So I'm taking one false move. Good pick. This is going in thriller. I just think that this

is a perfect crime movie. This is so disturbing and dark. It's my favorite non... It's my favorite Paxton lead performance. He's obviously got a bunch of aliens style character actor performances, but this is my favorite with him in a lead. So like he's obviously got like a bunch of like aliens style, like character actor performances, but this is my favorite with him in a lead.

Thornton's incredible. Michael Beach is incredible. Cynda Williams is amazing in this. And it is like up there with the best nineties noir movies that you can find. I think this is part of that criterion collection that they did. Is it? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. And I, I just adore this movie. I wish, I wish they made like five it? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. And I just adore this movie. I wish I wish they made like five of these years still. Great film.

I'm a huge fan. Last pick. I'm going with one of my 10 favorite movies of all time movie I've talked about a few times on this podcast. The film that was also

featured on the rewatchables juice Ernest Dickerson's masterpiece. I think I've been on like five podcasts talking about this movie over the years not just this podcast that I host. This is your White Man Can't Jump.

They made a movie about everything I care about. It's a movie that showed me the stuff that I cared about that maybe I didn't know. I think I probably saw it not in 1992 but in 93 or 94. And at that time, hip-hop to me was

MC Hammer. I wasn't totally... I wasn't plugged into a tribe called Quest the year that People's Instinctive Travels was released. I didn't have any access to it. I didn't even know where to find it. I didn't have money. I couldn't buy records. I could listen to the radio, but that's really it.

Juice... I took a movie and seeing what that lifestyle was and what the Omar Epps character was after that got me, I think, really, really invested and emotionally interested in that world, which then basically led to the first 10 years of my career and all the things that I was extremely passionate about back then. And still until this day, I was texting with Chris about Kendrick Lamar last night.

It's still part of my life. And I just think it's an amazing New York movie. I think it's an amazing crime movie. I was talking about Stand By Me on a Stephen King pod last week, and I just think it's an amazing New York movie. I think it's an amazing crime movie. I think it's, you know, I was talking about stand by me on a Stephen King pod, uh, last week and I've never been a big stand by me guy. I think this is my stand by me.

You know, this is my movie about four guys who are tight friends who are going through something very difficult and, you know, they're kind of warring with each other, but they love each other and there's a really high stakes. And, uh,

I just think it's one of the great underrated movies of the nins and has always been very important to me best movie ever made about djing it's a great question there's a mia hansen love movie called eden did you ever see that movie i didn't it's not i i've seen juice more than that i think what about what about uh daft punk's performance in tron legacy what was that zach on Efron one? Was that We Are Your Friends? We Are Your Friends. That's pretty good. That's actually a pretty good movie. Yeah.

What is that? Oh, I'm remembering the other Zac Efron one that also has Miles Teller. Do you remember that one? That Awkward Moment? I think so. No DJing in that, but that's a fun one.

Michael B. Jordan is in that, isn't he? He is. The guy who directed that is the guy who directed The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent really

I'm looking forward to seeing that I hope it's streaming soon it was fun I think are we done we are yeah

Chris I'm fine this is going to be one where it's like when you look at the list of movies it's cool but when you know

the process it's like fuck you know yeah can we talk about some of the ones that didn't get picked? Yeah, there's a lot.

So I was surprised. I'm not super surprised, but Patriot Games seems like one the three of us would all enjoy. I was banking on you getting it, Chris. Yeah. It's actually probably between... It's not my favorite Harrison Ford one.

I think I like Clear and Present more. It is the better of the two I personally have a lot of time for fire walk with me as a big Twin Peaks fan not as big as Andy but I was a big Twin Peaks fan and I felt like this movie like in a weird way like explain some of it to me

but was also crazy and I remember being like wow Kiefer Sutherland's in a Twin Peaks movie it's like no he's not there's just a bunch of stuff here I It's like, no, he's not. There's just a bunch of stuff here. I don't want to name all of them if you guys want to talk about some. I mean, Deep Cover is one that I love. Lawrence Fishburne, Jeff Goldblum, very similar in that.

One False Move, Juice, neo-noir movie. Light Sleeper is a Paul Schrader movie from that year that I really love. Unfortunate Look for Your Boy is the influence of Campbell Scott in singles on how I thought relationships were supposed to work. I was sort of surprised. I thought that you would go for singles, but maybe that's just because you're the most important Gen X figure in my life.

And so I just assume if there's something Gen X happening, it's going to be, Chris is going to be on the scene. You know, it's a big one that is, we didn't do is Wayne's World. Amanda, did that permeate your experience?

I mean, I've seen it. I don't think I was watching it at the time because I was like even a little bit young for SNL. I didn't really come to SNL until like the Will Ferrell era,

which is a bit later. So, you know, I know like, you know, Wayne's World, Party On. Like I know that, but Wayne's World Party On like I know that but I it was not of the moment for me

Under Siege pretty good did you consider it I thought I mean that's Tommy Lee right Tommy Lee Jones yeah that's a really good one I would also you have also I mean you fashioned your whole style after Seagal including my pivot to the east as i get older um i would say there's a couple of b movies here

that were really fun like uh like passenger 57 um i would also shout out uh trespass which was a completely ridiculous movie there were a a couple of sort of more prestigious things like Passionfish was cool. Love that movie. John Sayles movie. Night in the City is a Richard Price script. Erwin Winkler directed this Robert De Niro movie about like a hustling lawyer,

which is actually pretty underrated. Never seen this one. Yeah. And Bad Lieutenant, which I know Sean looks at as a formative movie, both for like how he works out in the morning. Awesome. No, my Mets fandom is fashioned after Harvey Keitel's gambling.

I mean, the whole movie is him driving around, listening to Mike Frances on the radio in Mets games. It's incredible. There's a lot. I mean, Candyman, Coppola's Dracula movie, Alien 3, El Mariachi. Hoffa, like we mentioned. Hoffa, we talked about.

Okay, The Mighty Ducks. Speaking of being eight years old. I mean, but that was like a huge movie. It was. I think A River Runs Through It is the first time that I saw Brad Pitt being handsome on screen, which, you know, that was really formative. Boomerang?

Yeah. The Eddie Murphy comedy? Amanda, are you a Death Becomes Her person? Literally next on my list, Death Becomes Her, yes, which I don't think I, like, I definitely saw at the time and didn't really get everything that was going on. I was like, this is weird. Yeah.

Yeah. School Ties, which is an important starting point for, like, many actors to come and uh then like this was my backup wild card and this was a personal favorite big girls don't cry they get even which is a joan micklin silver movie that i just watched 40 000 times on vhs um it's stars jenny lewis or jen, or Jenny Lewis is in it. And I honestly, I wish I had revisited it, because I haven't seen it in a while,

and I really can't tell you how many times I watched this movie. It's about a girl with a post-divorce family, so we can understand how I got there. But fun movie. I mean, a lot more things, too, in this year.

So much. Blockbuster-wise. You know, Home Alone 2. The Bodyguard. We haven't talked about The Bodyguard. Oh, yeah. I rewatched this during the pandemic, and I found it a little wanting.

Yeah. I mean, if Rob Harvella on 60 Songs That Explains the 90s did I Will Always Love You and pointed out it just doesn't need to end the way it ends. You know? Why can't they be together? It's a great question.

I also thought we could, I just, I really like Mississippi Masala. That's another great Denzel performance. Getting a bit of a revival. It had been a hard movie to see for a while and it's on Criterion now.

Shay would never forgive me if I didn't mention American Me. Gosh, there's so many. Where the Day Takes You was a favorite of my wife. Well, actually, I wanted to ask you, Chris, because you mentioned cranking it to Kim Basinger. And did you also crank it to animated Kim Basinger in Cool World?

That was the first time I saw Brad Pitt being hot. Congratulations. That's when Brad Pitt taught you it was okay to be weird Eileen my wife would divorce me if I didn't mention

the Muppet Christmas Carol which is like really one of her favorite movies of all time and a movie that we will be indoctrinating our daughter with great

I got us on the other end of the spectrum single white female yeah which was a backup for me in Thriller has that ever happened

to you amanda no no thank god but i mean i would live in that apartment in new york if you know if you were gonna get stabbed with a high heel yeah well yeah but she's okay isn't she at the end i definitely also re-watched this when we did erotic thrillers but i don't totally remember how it ends um i gotta say i really really liked buffy the vampire slayer the movie and i never got into the buffy tv experience doesn't aileen like buffy the show she does yeah and i that you know pre predates when when we were together and i always thought that the tone of that movie, which is really different from the TV show, was kind of perfect. But I feel like

it's a little bit lost in time because of the show. It's interesting, you know, Christy Swanson, Luke Perry, Paul Rubens is in that one. And who else? Rutger Hauer is the big bad in that movie. There's a beautiful movie that I saw for the first time this year directed by the Englishman

Terrence Davies called The Long Day Closes. I don't know if either of you guys have had a chance to see this movie before. It's really one of the best COVID watches that I've had. It's about a young boy living in England in, I guess, it's the 1950s and him falling

in love with cinema and his loneliness growing up um and how movies like changed his life it's so gorgeous in the way that it's made and it's not it's not a traditional linear narrative but it's really really great so if you have a chance to check that out i would highly recommend it uh what else i feel like we've missed so much other stuff we barely even talked about the sundance movies like night on earth was that year. What else? I mean, we did make jokes about Aladdin, but Aladdin. Yeah. Yeah. Army of Darkness, the Sam Raimi movie, which is back in the news because it's the news. Doctor Strange is basically a sequel to Army of Darkness. Did we mention

Light Sleeper? I did mention it briefly. I don't know. I mean, that's all I got, but there's probably a dozen more that people will yell at us about uh let's just recap very quickly i'm gonna read off the films that we got and then i'm gonna get a final temperature check on both of you it looks like the blood has been fully drained from both of your faces and only one of us is breastfeeding right now so uh yeah speak for yourself here's the recap of the 1992 i'm gonna get the CR heads their milk you know okay in drama Chris

bore the fruit of reservoir dogs I got Glenn Gary Glenn Ross Amanda got the player in comedy CR got white man can't jump and he truly can't I got my cousin Vinny and Amanda got

sister act in Oscar nominee Chris got sent of a woman I got unforgiven and Amanda got Sister Act. In Oscar nominee, Chris got Scent of a Woman. I got Unforgiven, and Amanda got Malcolm X. In action horror thriller, Chris got One False Move. I got Batman Returns, and Amanda got Basic Instinct. In blockbuster, Chris has The Last of the Mohicans. I have a few good men, and Amanda has A League of Their Own. And finally, in wildcard, Chris got Sneakers, the blunder of the draft, if we're got juice and amanda got the cutting edge how you guys feeling i feel like i made a mistake in being honest about my feelings because you think he wouldn't have taken it if you hadn't

no i think he would have taken it but i think that if i had just pretended like everything was okay and that i didn't want it that much. Then I don't give power to the pick. And honestly, the rest of my draft is pretty good. Like my draft is really good. It reflects who I am. And it is also like filled with good movies. I'm pleased with it. But because I started this from a place of I've already lost,

then people are going to like think that I already lost. But on the other hand, I have been very open about the fact that A Few Good Men is important to me throughout this podcast and throughout all movie drafts and my life. So what could I have done? I don't think I could have lied. Well, we appreciate your honesty as always. No, you don't.

I do. I care for you and uh and your your growing family cr i i care for you your family uh concerns me it worries me in many ways um chris you're gonna be okay you feel all right yeah i'm good man thank you it's tgif you like it's really it's your grit through gritted teeth that was like the angry version of the face that you made the time that i tried to like share that mushroom dip with you remember and you were like this is fantastic and you like i think i was like dynamite mushrooms dynamite that that's what you said yeah i i'm happy with the results i'm not happy with the process that's such as like

interesting interesting you recall a former leader of this nation actually uh when you speak that way chris i'm not gonna do this to you no do it go ahead well just like you it's it's ironic that you're calling me trumpish when you are a man complaining about the results of a vote i don't know what you mean that it was somehow fixed i it wasn't fixed i mean i i am one of the arbiters of this machine. I think I made an error with the voting machines. You know, I think what we

didn't do is a thorough enough process because you've been redistricting for decades. And this work that you've done has created tricky results. Now, I feel good about

my draft. I don't think I necessarily won. I think this year is so strong that all three of us have a lot to be proud of. I don't feel like Amanda's going to win. It's very possible.

And as we know, the Dob Mob grows stronger every day. It does. Yeah, I accept it. You know, I would accept it. I appreciated the number of people who did not vote immediately but went, lived their lives,

and then logged on to the Google Docs at their convenience. I see you. I hope you continue your pursuits. I support you and I thank you. Amanda, do you feel that absence made the heart grow fonder of the listener that like you had a few months off

and now that you're back, that like people really, they had to listen to me say dumb shit with people that they don't care about for a long time, aside from Chris, obviously. No, you know what i actually do i have a theory about well first of all i think that i had a funny draft you know but um one of the things i've realized is that because of the way they lay out the our

drafts on twitter you know when you read them all together, you got to have a really strong kicker, you know? Like your wildcard actually has to pull some weight. And so my Xili, like after, I sequenced it very well unintentionally so that it read very well. And I do actually think that that mattered. I don't think you can plan your whole draft around that, but perhaps we should investigate switching up the presentation

or else you have to think about your kicker. I'm just surprised to hear that you've even seen tweets. I thought that you were off living your life. Like I said, I have spent a lot of time in a dark room. I don't know what else to tell you. You're all very funny on the internet.

Congratulations. Thank you for the company. Thanks to you both. We'll actually be back. This trio will be back. We're going to build the Tom Cruise Hall of Fame in about a week. And that's really important because... Maybe we should do that in person.

Yeah, can we do it? And then can we get a cruise cake? I don't know what that is. Do you know about this? No. Okay, so every year, this is like a whole thing. Tom Cruise sends this cake from a bakery in the valley to everyone as like his Christmas present.

And it's become like a major talking point. Like Kirsten Dunst talks about it on shows and on like talk shows and all these sorts of things. And like Rosie O'Donnell, Google cruise cake. Everyone says it's the most delicious thing in the world, but it's a hundred bucks on Gold Belly. So I didn't want to just buy it for myself. The answer is yes yes we'll get a

cruise cake we can expense it oh my god this is really exciting yes okay great thank you so much guys thank you so much to Kaya McMullen for filling in today for Bobby

thanks to everyone listening to this show please tune in later this week on the pod we're gonna talk about Alex Garland and the movie men see you then.