The Big Picture - The 1996 Movie Draft

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

We are drafting again! And Amanda is back! She and Sean are joined by Chris Ryan to pick their faves and foil their pals in a draft of the movies from 1996. Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Chris Ryan Senior Producer: Bobby Wagner Video Producer: Jack Sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Complete offer eligibility criteria by March 31st, 2025. Choose one of five eligible charities. Up to $500,000 in total contributions. I'm Sean Fennessey. I'm Amanda Dobbins. And this is The Big Picture, a conversation show about 1996. We are drafting again. Chris Ryan's here.

Hi, Chris. What's up, guys? We are recording from the past into the future. Okay, so what day is it in the world of this podcast? Yeah, because I just made a bunch of yen jokes for a future episode of The Watch that haven't aged well. I think it's going to be October when this episode airs. You're kidding me. Early October.

Wow. Okay. Should we do like a time capsule for ourselves and for the listeners? Just a snapshot of what's happening in the world. I don't know.

Anything you want October you to know? Oh, yeah. Keep calm and carry on, October me. We were just talking about baseball. We were talking about

Mets' doomerism. Right. Right. And so, you know, they've fallen out of the wildcard lead and they're struggling. They just dropped the game to the Colorado Rockies. I would say my enthusiasm has been a bit dimmed. Maybe at this time, two months from now, they'll be playing the Philadelphia Phillies. When do the playoffs start? Early October.

Early October. Okay, that's great timing for me. It's Mr. October time. Well, I mean, I do know that, but then inevitably the World Series stretches into November, and someone needs to be Mr. November as well. For the purposes of this podcast, do you think in October we will be so back

or it will be so over? I've never been back with the Mets. No, I mean, in cinema generally. Oh, films. No, I thought you meant politically. Well, we're mere weeks away from... I was going to be in. We're mere weeks away from Venom the Last Dance as this podcast is coming out.

Right. Is this like the week of Joker? Is Joker folia de upon us? I believe it is. Yeah. How are you feeling, Chris? About Joker? Yeah.

For every film that comes along that I'm like, I wonder if I'll have something to say about this. I'd love an opportunity to do so on the big picture. I think of a Colin Coward reel I watched the other day where he walks with his dress shirt untucked and like down to his mid thighs and just does a monologue as he's going to his booth where he will do his solo talk show. And I want that for Sean.

I want behind-the-scenes content of Sean wearing a long dress shirt talking about Todd Phillips. How many solo podcasts will I record during Amanda's leave? I'm going to put the over under at five. And I'm going to take the over. More than five? Yeah. It's two a week

plus emergency news. I have so many guys in my Instagram DMs that are like, hey bro, heard you say you're looking for a fill-in while Amanda's out.

Do I? I am the man for you. What they don't know is that I get approval. Yeah, so. Who cleared that? Wait, did you say I'm looking for a fill-in?

Yeah, you were here, I think, when I was making the joke. I was like, I'm i'm looking for a fill-in uh i was yeah you were here i think when i was making the joke i was like i'm currently scouting oh yeah for potential and many men here are my four favorites on letterboxd god bless them god bless them all i wish them luck keep reaching out um how many angry voice notes do you think i'll send have sent you at this point at like i'll never know because i won't check them so i don't know uh that's not true i would never i'm not a voice notes person i've never gotten a single voice note from you in your entire life yeah i honestly really don't know how to do it i freeze i mean i

know you gotta hold the thing down but it's like it's sort of like voicemail panic yeah you know i like i'm a writer first it's unusual about the text yeah so panic. Yeah. You know? Like, I'm a writer first. It's unusual that I've... You're about the text. Yeah. So I'm really... And plus, I need... When you have the new baby, you know, I'm texting while... I'm trying not to disturb the baby.

Yeah. Yeah. So I think I'll be really online when this is happening. That's awesome. I'll be the first... Huge change. Yeah. Will you accept cookies?

Have you seen trap yet no okay well you know that's disappointing anyway I was saving it I'm going so I'm about to go

to a lake in Oregon okay and usually just you know that screams go to the movies well no typically what happens

is when we go away we save like a bunch of horror and thriller movies for that trip it screams first act in a movie in which you're about to be murdered. You and your wife at a lake by Jason Voorhees. I'm final boy, you know.

I always live. So true. We've talked about it so many times. You know, I was just saying before we started recording, I have no idea why we have not done 1996 yet as a movie draft on this show. 1996 is an awesome movie year. This is like, this is when things were good yeah things

were awesome um we can talk about who we were at that time chris in 1996 what were you up to uh you know me and my friend richard jewel we were both excuse me i'm right here there's only one atlanta resident today i was fine yeah okay you know and I've played in those fountains many times since. Would you step up in a situation like that? Step up as Richard Jewell did for his own defense? What do you think he's going to be like stepping up? There was no stepping up. Everybody was, you know.

He was doing his work. He was doing his job. Wrongly accused, as Clint Eastwood showed us in his marvelous film, Richard Jewell. Sometimes there's a woman and she's a liar. You know, that happens. Oh my God. Clint, wow, still got it.

When's Juror coming out? I think next year. Juror number two. I think early 2025. Not ideal on the release calendar. Not exactly what you want. I saw Presence, the Soderbergh thing, is getting kicked next year too. Yeah, I didn't love that.

Who was I in 96? Is that the question? That's the question. Living at home and loving it right after high school decided to Hey, same.

Yeah. Go to Temple University and enroll in the film school. That lasted several weeks until this is actually pretty funny. I've never gotten this story. I was going to say

I did not know that Temple had a film school one of the first assignments was we're going to make each individual is going to make

an animated film by drawing you know like frames on a film strip and we're going to project them and I refused I refused

now did it come from a place of insecurity because I'm not really good at drawing and also found it tedious and don't really react well to tedious... Here we have... The original wound.

We have Proust's Madeline here. Now we understand. Truly, revealing the layer, peeling the onion. The funny thing is the idea that I don't like animation because I can't do it, but all the films I do like are things I can do. Yeah.

You know, like I could probably. You could have made Terminator 2. Yeah. If you wanted to. For sure. That wasn't the issue. I often point to the LA River

and I'm just like, you know, he missed some angles there. But yeah, I was in film school briefly, switched over to journalism school. Was living at home and working at a music magazine,

uh, and was very immersed in music, but somehow managed to see like 60 movies, uh, this year. Um, I was going to the movies a lot. Uh,

and it was, it's just like an awesome, awesome, awesome time because it was, uh, a huge, still like thriving video store culture, uh,

indie movie art house in the post kind of tarantino world was thriving and also you had like three movies a week to go see at the cineplex it did feel that way what was were you one of the movies a lot at this time yeah so i turned 12 and in my memory that seems to have been this seems to have been the year where instead of being accompanied by an adult to the mall, to the movies, I got to be dropped off. And so I saw a lot of these, especially the summer movies, alone or with friends without parental supervision in the summer. I still remember the anxiety of my parents being like, well, you can't see PG-13 because you'll have to lie. And I'm like, chill out, lawyers uh but we made it work but so this is the year where night if like 95 was like my breakthrough year of just being like oh movies which was you know that was like clueless and sense and sensibility that was and i was like almost old enough then

this is like i just started seeing a lot of movies and I saw grown-up movies but I still also was like front row center for Matilda you know like I think Matilda and Emma came out the same day and it's like this you know the two Amandas um so also child and the lady yeah exactly the Richard and the jewel listen having, exactly. The Richard and the Jewel. Listen, having the Olympics in your city, you know, except for that sad event.

I bet it was sick. It was cool in 96. I don't know whether I want to do it again in LA. Did you, did you or anybody in your family volunteer

as like a docent for the Olympics? Yeah, yes. I, 11 years old, was a docent. No, but we did get to go to things and it's like the bike races were kind of going through atlanta so you could that was one where you'd like just walked a few blocks or like parked at a friend's house and you didn't even have to have tickets

um got really into handball oh yeah uh which was fun live so that that was fun and festive until it became you know a national nightmare for richard jewell but i don't know i was i i felt like maybe this is the first year where i felt plugged into like pop culture you know like a grown-up pop culture as well as definitely as teenage stuff um and also it's just like an amazing movie I was thinking this morning so 97 and 98 97's amazing too and it's really the Star Wars prequels in 99 that just ruin it

right? Like the movie culture at large? I think that's a fair theory I mean I know we've like reclaimed the prequels and like no actually they're good and you know filmmaker but let's turn it back around again because it's, you know, that dips into like all of the,

well, the history and the fan stuff. And also capitalizes on all of us just like being hooked to watching things at home 4,000 times again. But in 96, we just, it was, it was new,

pure, ridiculous things. I think your elder millennial is showing a bit, it was new, pure, ridiculous things. I think your elder millennial is showing a bit. I mean, I think that obviously it's just like your favorite band is the band that you discovered when you were 13. And these are seminal years for Chris's film schoolwork and also seminal years for you and I in terms of our adolescence and developing taste. And so this is a big one. I just had this experience of talking about being 12, just like you were 12 in this year, in the Pulp Fiction podcast, and how 12 is this, like, major access point

where you're, like, emerging from the Matildas and into the Emmas. You know, you're moving on from the childish thing into the mature thing. From Goonies to Reservoir Dogs. That's what it would have been. Yeah. And in this year, the movie for me that was like that was Scream. Because Scream,

a movie I've talked about probably ad nauseum on this show. There's a rewatch of us about it many years ago. One of the big hits of the year. But the early to mid 90s was kind of a morbid time in horror and horror perhaps my favorite genre and then this is the movie that like

kick-started it hard and then I remember very specifically getting into funny Bill Simmons was just texting us about the movie Urban Legend which was a late 90s

horror movie with a cast of young stars Jared Leto I think is in that Jared Leto, Tara Reid Alicia Witt a handful of others but like that that was a moment you know like I know what you did last summer is the following year and then it kicked off stars. Jared Leto, I think is in that. Jared Leto, Tara Reid, Alicia Witt, a handful of others.

But like that, that was a moment, you know, like I know what you did last summer is the following year. And then it kicked off this wave again of movies that got me very excited about that stuff. And that's related to the Pulp Fiction stuff that you're talking about. And it's also a great blockbuster period. It's a pretty good Oscar period here. We're seeing it through the rose tinted lenses of our youth. And that's part of the exercise of this show. But this one in particular felt special. So I wanted to ask whether you guys had the same sensation looking back over the list of movies where so many films, great, great movies on their own and as texts,

also were significant, if not big, like commercially significant to us culturally because of their soundtrack or because of the careers they launched or because of some ripple effect that came out of the movie but wasn't necessarily, hasn't necessarily propped the film itself up

but now weirdly is recurring in 2024 or across the last couple of decades. What's an example of that? Well, anything as big as Scream, which obviously has spawned half a dozen films and kind of a whole genre unto itself, this self-reflexive horror, you know, genre, subgenre, to something as small as like Kids in the Hall of Brain Candy, which was like a huge soundtrack for indie rock at the time and there's a bunch of really great soundtracks from this year there's a bunch of careers that get launched in this year and there's a bunch of franchises someone wittingly that start this year and so it turns out that this is like a hugely important catapult or trampoline for a lot of stuff that isn't necessarily the film you know it's it's like everything that came out of the movie i don't know if that makes any sense.

It does. In many cases, though, I think those franchises were launched because the originals were really good. Mission Impossible was really good. There was going to always be a second Mission Impossible after that first one hit. But weirdly, if you watched Mission Impossible 1, the idea that you would be getting

Fallout and Dead Reckoning now was A, unfathomable, and B, that they the idea that you would be getting Fallout and Dead Reckoning now was A, unfathomable, and B, that they would look and feel the way they did compared to what Mission Impossible was like. That's interesting. The idea of legacy probably only existed within the Bond franchise at this time? Were there any franchises in 1986 that had 30-year lifespans?

I mean, obviously obviously Star Wars would come soon in the 90s in a sort of revival were they doing Jurassic Park is this just like a miss of the Jurassic Park sequels yeah I think

this was right after The Lost World I think is 95 so no they hadn't really gotten those like really going hard I mean

it's an interesting observation there were there were Batmans there were they weren't there had been two Batman movies. And Supermans, right? And all that stuff. Maybe three.

Maybe Batman Forever had come out in 95 as well. I can't quite recall. Is that the one with Poison Ivy? I think it's 97. Okay. I think all of that also contributed to a feeling like, for as fun as it was to go and find a David O. Russell movie or a Danny Boyle movie.

It was also like the big movies felt like they lasted for a huge chunk of the year because they lived on with the music or with like trends that they started or captured or documented or whatever. And so there are films here that like are among the most influential to me in terms of like dictating what I listened to for the rest of my life. You know, like or, you know, like things like that, which is like beyond just like, oh, a movie about young men trying to figure out who they are in Scotland.

It's like, no, this is about like blur and it's like, you know, like all this other stuff. Yeah, everything felt more connected, I guess, is really what you're saying. I think that's true. I don't know what it specifically was. Like, I'm always a little reluctant to valorize it too much because it's still like corporate concern gets movies made. You know what I mean?

Like the things that is motivating it. So like, why was it a time? And some of it is just happenstance that a year they can have like Fargo, The English Patient, Jerry Maguire, Scream, The Rock, Mission Impossible, Independence Day. was it a time and some of it is just happenstance that a year they can have like fargo the english patient jerry mcguire scream the rock mission impossible independence day the the versions of the movies that came out were the good versions you know they were the highest level versions in most cases so it's a it's a it's a rich text um you were 14 i was 14 what was the job the summer

job at that place was that abercrombie, the summer job at that base? Was that Abercrombie? I never worked at Abercrombie. I worked at J.Crew. Excuse me, I'm sorry. In fact, Abercrombie was like having a house in the Hamptons. I was like, who can afford to wear these clothes at this time? J.Crew is pretty expensive.

I was only able to get J.Crew clothing because I worked at J.Crew and got a discount. We had a little thing going with Banana Republic amongst a friend group. A little thing? Just a, I mean, I don't want to incriminate anyone, but it was like a little bit of like a staff discount. Then you would return it at full price. Oh, wow. Oh, okay.

That is a crime. You should be investigated. Statue of limitations up for that? I think it's up. Okay. Also, I didn't say I participated in it. I just said we had a little thing going. Interesting.

I did not work at Banana Republic. When I was 14, I was a baseball umpire for Little League. I did not know this was a job for you. It's for three years. The most logical job he's ever had. No, I know. And I'm like, I feel really sorry for all of those children. I have thrown out not one, not two, but three parents in my time as an umpire. Yeah, I'll bet. Like, ejected them from

the park. Do you think you'll go back to that if Alice decides to play softball? But just be her umpire, not her coach. But throwing out her like, her friend's parents from games. I would welcome it. I gotta say, I do really like Alice's friend's parents. I did not expect to be able to say that, but I really

do. That's nice. It is nice. It's been a nice revelation in my life. Umpiring is a hard job. How often did you get yelled at by nine-year-olds? Every game. The nine-year-olds, not so much. The nine-year-olds are very sensitive. If they get frustrated, they run to their coach or their parent. They don't yell at the umpire.

They haven't yet, or at least in my experience, they hadn't yet learned that. But the parents are brutal motherfuckers. and those people should be put to death like those people who yell at 14 year olds who are umpiring baseball games because they're mad that their nine-year-old you know grounded out to second base yeah no i know but i think it's straight it's still going it's only gotten worse we we tend to watch some little league baseball near the park and those parents are not they're not okay they're those they are just everybody's got a distortion field around them where they think their kid is going to be uh ellie dale cruz and it's not going to happen and you should just let your kid have fun and learn team sports yeah i'm obviously like really

tightly wound about a lot of things and very competitive but that's something that i don't feel i'm going to struggle with. Like if I honestly don't I actually think maybe Eileen will be more of a hard liner in terms of Well I mean she is the She was the athlete. She is

yeah she's the more experienced athlete. It's not really going to matter for Amanda because she's going to have the Giambis. That's a good point. That's a good point.

You guys are just going straight to the pros. No but like I do think Zach will be the one getting thrown out. Yes he will.'t yeah i'm glad that we're all agreed on that you know like obviously i'm a hothead and i get mad a lot of there's definitely gonna be some in that just some days when me and sean are like it's okay tiger let's just uh live to fight another day let's go get a lemonade yeah well just let's just walk it off um oh my god so umpiring yeah

that was my job. That was... I learn new things about you every day. Really my first job. Okay. Aside from like doing chores and getting an allowance. A life of retail and a life of unloading trucks. Right. So tail is all this time.

1996, I was using that money that I made from umpiring though to go to the movies. I think that the Walt Whitman movie theater, which was a single theater at the mall down the five minute walk from my home, was still open at that time. I think it was. Single theater. What's that? I miss the single theater. It was nice.

Or like a three theater. That's a good one. I like a three as well, but the single really did what you were describing a little bit. It was sort of like eventized. It was like, what's the movie that I can walk to, that I can get into? And sometimes there would be an attendant at the movie theater where I could get into an R-rated movie. And sometimes there wasn't.

There was somebody who wouldn't let me in. So that also mattered, like what was playing there. But I saw a lot. I saw, I was in the movies a lot. This is, this is probably, I think it's because of what you're describing too, where it's like,

you can actually go with your friends. Yeah. And like stay all day. Like I definitely started seeing two movies a day around this time in my life too. Did you pay for the second ticket? I've definitely snuck into a lot of movies in my time. That's also a crime.

You're right about that. You're right about that. Should we go to jail together? Yeah. Where should we go to jail? I got a text message the other day from Gavin Newsom. Did you? It said, hey, Chris, this is Gavin Newsom.

I hope you listen to my new episode of my podcast. It's about something I never, I truly didn't understand until I became governor. Dot, dot, dot. San Quentin.

Wow. And I was like, did you listen? Seems like one of the top five things you would be like, let's get San Quentin. Let's see what's happening here. Like I want to get my hands

on this thing. One of many things that distinguishes Gavin Newsom from Johnny Cash. Yeah. And then so Sam Quentin is also, I believe, the fictional, in Heat lore, that's where Neil has been, I think. Maybe he's Joe Folsom. I can't remember.

But in any case. So you want to go to Sam Quentin with me because of our teenage crimes. Wherever Neil McCauley was supposed to have gone. Yeah. You want to stay in his cell. Yeah. Do you know that Neal McCauley's not real? But he did a lot of reading while he was there.

That's where he got into Marxism. Yeah, and metals as well. I thought that would be great for us. And then we could start our own podcast with Gavin Newsom. The imprisoned picture. The incarcerated picture. The incarcerated picture is a good idea that's the perspective we're lacking in the world on film and on

incarceration you guys didn't respond when I was like I saw a heat t-shirt at the pool I'm sorry yeah I think I was just busy oh I didn't know whether it was like too close for you you know was it me in the heat t-shirt no it wasn't but it was like another dad in a heat t-shirt at the, you know, with the toddlers at the pool. And I was like, wow, here we all are together.

I mean, we're in that era. We're in that phase of life. I've just come from interviewing two filmmakers who were much younger than me and I've never felt older. And it is all hitting us. But you know what? I was young in 1996. I was wide-eyed. Do you want to, should we draft?

Yeah. Can I ask you one question about your young self? Please. Did you, were either of you persnickety about genre? Like you were obviously like a kid. So were you up for anything or were you like? I mean, I think I definitely still had. Preferences.

I mean, I'm myself. So I, I mean, I'm, I'm myself. So I think I've had preferences since, you know, I came to this earth, but I both had preferences of who empowered that. Who encouraged it? Aren't you learning every day that it just, it comes built in and you just have to reckon with it. Angel Gabriel brought you down. No, but I definitely, I mean, this was like still a good age for teen movies and kids movies and movies, you know, featuring women.

So, and also like my parents were strict. So I don't think I was seeing a lot of our movies in the theaters. Okay. Because I was still afraid of trying to sneak in. I mean, for lack of a better phrase, I think girl stuff was not something I was pursuing as a 14-year-old boy. You know, I think I definitely wasn't like, I need to see Mike Lee's Secrets and Lies. Even though it was an Oscar film. Sure.

And it turned out to be an amazing film. At 14, I had other things on my mind. So Secrets and Lies is right there for me. Yeah. It would have been in 1996, but is it today? No, in the draft. But is it today?

Have I seen the light? Oh, and now you've learned to appreciate these artistry. I think I also, you know, I didn't really have a ton of access to like breaking the waves.

You know, like I knew that it was a movie that was widely acclaimed, but, like, a sensitive, I guess, actually, like, strafing arthouse movie, I wasn't really ready for anything like that.

I remember being mad about the movie Shine, which is something I also expressed on the Jerry Maguire rewatchables. Well, yeah. It's one of the great Oscar travesties.

Yeah. And so I was like, I won't be watching that movie. I think that I also, I do think I saw it, but I was mad about it because this was in the, like my parents pushing heavy on the performing arts stuff. And I was like, fuck the piano. You know, like I don't. Also the guy in Shine was kind of like, fuck the piano.

I mean, among us. Yeah. Is that what he, does he fuck the piano? No. In the piano? No. Sometimes I get confused about Shine and Glenn Gould. American Pie. But I did also have to,

you know. I went to like arts camp this summer, you know. You know what's a big eye-opening movie for me from this year? Maybe someone will draft it because it's a great movie.

It was The Birdcage. Oh, yeah. Which is a little bit of a like, I didn't know you could do that kind of a movie. Yeah. And. Like a zany farce. The tone ofge? Oh, yeah. Which is a little bit of a like, I didn't know you could do that kind of a movie. Yeah. And the tone of it. Yeah, yeah.

And obviously it was an adaptation of a French film, but I think it's also critical to like see stuff like that. See Waiting for Guffman, see Welcome to the Dollhouse, see movies where you're like, oh, this is not a studio movie. Or if it is, it is a subversion of something

that a studio movie would be. Anyway, before we mention too many movie titles, maybe we should just get to it. So Jack Sanders is filling in on the draft order. Jack, are you prepared to reveal that right now? Bobby sent it to you.

Yes, he did. Yes, and I just want to, and we asked Alaya also. Bobby sent it to Alaya. Alaya declined. I was on the group message. Oh, you were? Okay, all right.

I was not excluded. I want to include everyone and also state everyone's preferences as to whether they want to be the voice of God or not. But you're comfortable. I'm comfortable. Okay. Thank you so much. What is the draft order?

Drafting first, Sean Fennessy. Damn it. Let's go. Second, Chris Ryan. Ugh. And third, Amanda Dobbins. I don't think I've been second for a while. You turn 40 as a woman in America and then, you know.

That's right, they forget you. It's just. Did you turn 40? Yeah. The rules really dry up for you. It's really, no one remembers you. No, the phone doesn't ring. What is different?

The phone doesn't ring. Next thing you know, you're tweeting about DoorDash. What? Like, is it the first time she'd ever used that? It seems like honestly thought she got hacked. This is a Jessica Chastain.

Yeah. Like on the day. I won't be having any slander. It was the day after Charlie X's birthday party. And the responses. I did. I thought the last part

of her message was very funny where she was like, what are we using these days, gang? Yeah. Let me know in the comments is something I think

I'd like to see you employ. I'm going to lean into that. That's a really good idea. What do you guys want to see more of on the big picture? Let me know. In hell. There's not a consensus

number one here, is there? No. There are some categories that are thinner than others. Yeah. And there are some things you might want. I don't really know what to do. I certainly know there are three movies, I would say, that I feel very strongly about that I'd like to have. Actually, maybe four.

Okay. Then I think you should pick one of those. Well, I will. At some point. When I decide it's time. But I haven't decided pick one of those. Well, I will at some point when I decide it's time. But I haven't decided on that time yet. Do you feel like this was a year that you had no issues with category? You'd be like, oh God, I'll be happy to get any one of eight movies in all these different categories.

I wouldn't say that, but I wouldn't say any of my categories feel thin. I will say comedy feels overwhelmingly full for me. Yeah. thin and nothing i will say comedy feels overwhelmingly full for me yeah well it was a it was this is a little bit of an age difference where i think for you probably it was like that was still there your level of humor was being very played to whereas i as a more erudite kind of wit stillman kind of guy totally at the time look at your face definitely you were you're gonna just be like i don't think happy g Gilmore is funny? I think Happy Gilmore is funny. Wow.

Not invited to the Happy Gilmore Rewatchables, you may recall. He was not on that one. I've let it be known that Sandler is not my jam. Okay. Yeah. Honestly, disgusting. Like a vile opinion. Is it weirder that I don't like Adam Sandler or that you don't like cream cheese?

I like a sweetened cream cheese. We asked Sean earlier. And I like a sweetened cream cheese. We asked Sean earlier. And I like a dramatic sandwich. You know? We asked Sean if he eats cream cheese and he responded on a cake, yes, on a bagel though, which is insane. We really should.

First of all, it's just a great answer. I know. We should have a TikTok account that is just your weird food opinions. I know that people want it too. I want to hear it, but I'm keeping it. I'm holding it for myself. Have you started eating broccoli yet? Imagine if I was like, I'm 42. I've decided it's broccoli time. I don't know. You're raising a child and trying to teach her. She's doing great. I'm not eating it. Not interested. I'm a pretty good vegetable eater. Just not a good broccoli eater.

You just eat sugar candy? I do eat a lot of sugar candy. What was I eating when I saw the movie I'm going to select? You know what I've noticed over these drafts is that we're pretty good about making Oscar nom something from the big six, pretty much.

We do. We have done that. You're not going to do that this year? I'm not breaking that. I'm was noting that we do do that and that this year weirdly way down the line in oscar noms you can find oh yeah some of the bigger films that is very true i i will even if it's an unwritten rule it's a rule that i'll follow okay especially with the ump here you know you won't be drafting evita i will not be drafting i saw that in theaters i was there for my girl boy this is this is really tearing you apart it's it's it's been a while since i've seen you so uncertain i don't know what the right move is i genuinely don't okay and i these four films are all very meaningful to me and I love them. Okay. That's exciting because you get to pick one.

You want me to pick? I just don't want to hear from you like later on being like, you guys were supposed to vamp. Are you happy to be drafting first today? No, clearly. I'd like to be forced. Do you like flavored cream cheese? Baby got his bottle. Is it like a mayo and oil-y thing?

I do. You know what I also like is a vegan cream cheese. So you'll have that on a bagel? I will. It's more like a hummus. I think that's really fucked up personally. Is it like a tofu cream cheese? I'm not sure what's in it.

It's cashew. Yeah, cashew. It's cashew. That's right. That's not what I do. Are you back on regular milk now? I don't really drink milk at all. I just use oat milk for a creamer. Right, right. Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah. That's not what I do. Are you back on regular milk now? Or are you still? I don't really drink milk at all. I just use oat milk for a creamer.

Right. Right. Sometimes. I also use Coffee Mate when they're, when it's around. Okay. Hmm. Where are you on ice cream these days, Sean? I just, I think I'm lactose intolerant.

So I just think I can't really have it. Are you psychologically lactose intolerant? I just don't feel well when I drink milk or eat ice cream. So that seems to be... I feel like that's it, right? That is indicative, yeah. So I love ice cream. If I could eat ice cream every day, I would do it.

You know. It's delicious. They have like lactate and stuff. I've tried that. I did try the... Who recommended to us? Did you recommend to me? The Oatly?

No, no. Well, this is not... Let's not. Let's not and say we did. I do like the Oatly ice cream. It's fine. It's a little sandy. It's better as like with cobbler or something else.

You don't want it on its own. I don't. Like you're saying it's four. I think it's two. And you should just pick one of the two. And then I'll pick the second one. Wow. Thanks so much.

I'm taking. I actually think the thinnest category is drama. Okay. And I'm taking Jerry Maguire in drama. Okay. Okay. What do you think the other three are? That's a romantic comedy, but whatever.

Yeah, I was going to say, wouldn't you also say it's kind of... It's fine. It is a movie about a man torn asunder. Yeah, but then it all works out. It is a dramatic film. Does it? Yeah. Well, it sounds like you didn't listen or rewatch it

I did actually and I agree that eventually things like you know things take a turn but you know you complete me

and Bruce Springsteen keeps playing and the kid gets health insurance I hope and the kid has a freaking arm cannon too now yeah yeah yeah that's a good point

keep an eye on that that's right speaking of I wonder if that kid's fictional baseball career would have come and gone by now. Lipnicki? Yeah, so he's how old in 96?

Seven. 89, so he would be in, like, kind of the end of his prime if he was in his baseball career, right? Yeah. But was he a lefty? Well, also, like, did he have Tommy John prematurely? But he could have been a Jamie Moyer type,

you know, pitched well in his early 40s. We don't see a lot of guys like that. I'm gonna take is it my turn yeah I'll take Fargo and Oscar and Om yeah

wow okay okay this was my great movie yeah and I'll never forget perhaps the thing

that unlocks this podcast for many is Sean's description of the shots in Fargo and the Deacons draft of the headlights coming over the and the Deacon's Draft. Of the headlights coming over the snowy landscape. And Paul Bunyan.

You know, that Paul Bunyan statue. That's cinema to me. That was like five years ago at this point. Does that make you feel old? Well, it doesn't. Yeah, it's true. It makes me feel young. We get to do this for a living.

Who's luckier than us? The thing is, is you actually do feel that way and I love you for it thank you so much Fargo is a five star masterpiece it's really good

shot by Roger Deakins written and directed by the Coen brothers not based on a true story don't believe that title card friends and has become a franchise

which I never ever ever ever would have guessed you know what I didn't realize that that's what you were saying but you're right I didn't realize that that was one of the examples that you were indicating and we have Fargo to thank for Kirsten Dunst and Jesse Plemons oh my god yeah so that's

beautiful it's all coming together I did not watch the most recent season of Fargo I have not seen a season of Fargo I do like Juno Temple though so maybe I did read one of Noah Hawley's books the airplane one uh no the one before that well maybe it was an airplane one too it was about media it was about like roger ailes oh or something noah holly wrote a book about roger ailes well it was like a novel it was it wasn't actually roger ailes it was fictionalized but maybe there was also a plane obviously it stayed with me um i have two picks so in action horror thriller i will take take Scream, which I definitely saw. Not in theaters.

I watched it in my Aunt Betty's basement in Knoxville, Tennessee. Was scared shitless. Yeah, that opening scene must have fucking cooked your noodle. Oh my God. Yeah. And listen, but it was, I understand that it's an homage to every horror movie under the sun, but it was also like my first horror movie yeah i think a lot of people and you know also like generationally just like hello welcome to your meta adulthood um and then in blockbuster i shall take mission impossible

directed by brian de palma and starring tom cruise i can't believe i got both of those and also i get it but you know, I think I probably... I don't know whether if I had first picked, I would have done Maguire or Mission Impossible. But I see where you're going. Those were the four movies that I was thinking of. They all went in the first four picks. Those are the big ones.

You did a great job. Thank you so much. At three, you never know. And now I think you slung shot out to a lead. I mean, I don't know about that. I like both of the movies that you guys picked. Mission Impossible. Who of us will be Noah Lyles, you know?

Oh, yeah. Racing from behind. Did you see that I won the voting for the blockbuster or the 2000s blockbuster? Did you see? Did you happen across that piece of information? Well, I thought it was funny because in the room, obviously everybody was like, Amanda won when we asked the crowd. Oh, for the live show? Yeah.

Oh, wow. So I wanted to ask you, you didn't notice that when we did the show? That there was voting? No, there was like, who won? Everyone cheered for me.

Everyone cheered for Amanda. But then Amanda got her doors blown off in the voting. Oh, wow. So what does that mean? When the mail-in ballots came in? Yeah, when we counted it up. Yeah.

When we made sure that the machines worked. That there are a lot of losers on Twitter? Or winners, such as myself. Have you considered that? Listen, that's how you choose to spend your time. You abandoned threads and you're only on X now. I'm on Instagram.

You're not on X? I look at it, but I basically... But do you have it? No, I still do. Like, I type it into the Safari browser. Wow. I don't know what that accomplishes for you. I don't know why that's good.

X.com. Well, no, I mean, it saves now. It autofills now. But it is really annoying because, no, I still type Twitter.com. And for many, many many months it switched and now it just wants to bring up the menu for two e's which is a wonderful diner in South Pasadena with a great ice cream sundae in case anyone's looking for that that's where I was when I found out that Joe Biden dropped out of the race oh you wanted to keep in mind that we're taping this in the past

what if he by now he's gotten back in what if's what I'm saying. What if Joe was like, I'm not done. Who could know? That's what Trump said he was going to do. He was going to storm the convention. Sleepy Joe? Yeah. Wow. Now that would be exciting.

Anyway, so now I have to, like, it usually is in, like, you know, remembered recent searches, that sort of thing,

so I don't actually have to type the X, but I still call it Twitter. So you took Mission Impossible, and what was the other one? Scream. An action horror thriller. Do you think Twitter will still exist

by the time this goes out into the world? Yeah, I don't think society can live without it. Okay. Honestly, I don't. I know, but like, just Elon-wise. I think it could live without it. I think that the denizens of it that drive the narratives of the world right now

could not live without it. I'm being 100% sincere. Are you one of them? Yes, says the man who I don't tweet about things. Just votes for himself 8,000 times on Twitter. No, that's not possible.

In fact, I don't think you can do a poll. What's the polling thing? I think you can't do polls unless you have a blue checkmark. That's what I was. Yeah. Do you have a blue checkmark. That's what I was... Do you have a blue checkmark? No, I do not.

Okay. I would not pay for Twitter. Have you checked lately? Maybe they gave you one back because you're such a devoted loser. I think they did start doing that. Yeah. I didn't get to meet. Why don't you look right now?

Do I have one right now? Yeah, look. See if you have one. This is exciting. There's no way I'm going to have one. I do not have one. Okay. Well, that's good.

I think they did... There was a time when people were like, why do I have a check one. Okay. Well, that's good. I think they did. There was a time when people were like, why do I have a checkmark? Yeah. No, that's why I thought it was possible. I think they were also virtue signaling where they were like, just so you know, I haven't bent my knee to Eon. I pull out a blazer like a windbreaker. If this has been an inside job, an investigation for the last seven years, it's really something.

Amanda's actually a Banana Republic security guard. This entire thing. It's like Philip Baker Hall from Seinfeld investigating the library books.

She's going to leave her family when the job is done. This was all like an American style farce. For Knox has to go back to

stuff. Back to Russia. Yuri. Back to the Banana Republic. Really, really tough stuff. Going Back to Russia. Yuri. Back to the Banana Republic. Really, really tough stuff. Going back to Russia. Those two kids. Oh, and the Americans.

No, in real life. Yeah, the ones for the Evans swap. Oh, yeah. That's not... They just found out they were Russian on the plane back and then suddenly they have to hug Putin. Anyway. Well, you've hugged Putin.

What's it like? Only in prison. On the incarcerated structure. Kiss you on the mouth. Yeah. Okay. You have a pick, Chris. I have a pick?

Sheesh. Gosh. You know, I'm trying to go head versus heart here. And in drama, I'll take train spotting that that was hard it was it's early uh is train spotting a drama it's a it's a black comedy is jerry mcguire a drama but it's darker i believe it's okay i think train spotting is darker than jerryuire, which you drafted in drama, right? It is darker. Yes. But...

Both have happy endings, I suppose, for one character. Sort of. Yeah, right, and gets away. Yeah. I'm picking this, it's probably a little early for this, but I am picking it mostly because of like,

in my world at the time, this was like a bomb going off. I couldn't believe how important this movie was to me. The music time, this was like a bomb going off. Like I couldn't believe how important this movie was to me. The music especially was like, I listened to the soundtrack so much this year and became obsessed

with several bands on it. And this is like the origin myth of The Watch, the podcast, right? Yeah, this is where I met Andy outside of a train spotting. When train spotting when train spotting the night it came out i was on mushrooms and i was like i never miss an episode thanks but even when you talk about dragons you know um only fleetingly uh so yeah train spotting

drama did you immediately shoot heroin together no okay the the chris ryan is a junkie thing is pretty funny though that this is now on multiple podcasts. Gotta have bits. Okay. Train Spotting, a very true to you pick, Chris. Do you like this movie? I do. I do.

I'm not like a cult member, but I do really like it. And you like this film? Yeah, but I mean, I saw it like, what, 10, 15 years later. I was 12, you know. In 100 meters, turn right. Actually, no. Turn left. There's some awesome new breakfast wraps at McDonald's.

Really? Yeah. There's the sausage, bacon, and egg. A crispy seasoned chicken one. Mmm. A spicy end egg. Worth the detour. They sound amazing.

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We used to be a country. It made $306 million. And then the aliens, you know, blew up the White House. That's right. This was where Will Smith learned to strike another man in this film when he struck an alien and said, welcome to Earth. You don't think he had ever encountered physical violence before in his life? No. Whatsoever. Do you think he thinks that Chris Rock is an alien and said welcome you don't think he had ever encountered physical violence before in his life yeah yeah whatsoever um do you think he thinks that chris rock is an alien and that's it was just fulfilling his destiny no i think just got some practice in captain mike johnson

in ali he obviously got really good striking other men um independence day is great it's so good like it's really fun. On July 4th, I was at a barbecue that it was just on on a loop. So I had the experience of watching the one I went to before you. And then it was on for, on a loop

and I saw it one and a half times. Because instead of participating in the barbecue, you just sat. No, I was just walking around. I was doing my laps. Checking in. Did everyone go quiet

for the bullhorn speech? You know, there was a lot of attention paid, though. Yeah. It was like, let's get fired up. It's really, really important. In action horror thriller, I will be selecting The Rock. God damn it. Which I think is the best action movie in Michael Bay's career.

Okay. It's probably the best action movie of this year, give or take Mission Impossible. It's tough. I don't strictly think of Mission Impossible as an action movie. Then she lowers down. The set pieces are incredible. Don't get me wrong.

Damn it, Sean. Well, you know, I think Amanda drafted very well with those first two picks, so it put me in a little bit of a bind. And now you're putting me in a bigger bind. Well, you're not putting me in a bind as much as now I have to pick something.

Well, first, you can speak about The Rock, which is an incredible film. Just so fun. Just a really fun memory of going to the movies and feeling like, and honestly,

maybe not understanding Sean Connery's iconography when I saw that movie. Right. And that it being a kind of entry point into discovering why the movie works

even better than I realized at the time. He was just an old Scottish guy at the time. You know? Scottish guy? Scottish. Scottish.

And obviously, Nicolas Cage coming off of the Oscar win and making this big pivot to becoming an action star while still maintaining the kind of like nerdy doctor attitude because it was so, it would have been so hard to accept Nick Cage as an action star. Now, we just take it for granted. He's just beating the shit out of people in movies. Did this introduce you to Ed Harris? Apollo 13, probably. Vest. it would have been so hard to accept Nick Cage as an action star now we just take it for granted he's just beating the shit out of people in movies

did this introduce you to Ed Harris Apollo 13 probably the vest wipes the little tear god that movie's so good I'm sure I saw something else with Ed Harris before

but it's really good but his willingness did you see an original production of True West to shoot missiles no I didn't I was yeah four years old

at the Steppenwolf Theater The Rock is great it's kind of No, I didn't. I didn't. I was, yeah, four years old at the Steppenwolf Theater. The Rock is great. It's kind of, the absurdity of it is part of what makes it great. I felt this way when we were talking about Trap where I'm like,

sometimes you just got to go to a movie and it's not realistic and it's a lot of fun. You know, the idea of taking over Alcatraz and aiming missiles at the United States. And saving yourself from a chemical weapon explosion by stabbing yourself

with a neon green antidote. Which I guess maybe you could, but I'm not going to test it. No, but just a tremendously fun movie. Were they shooting those missiles at a Giants game? I think so. I think that was the idea.

The San Francisco Giants or a Niners game? I think it was a baseball game. I mean, The Rock is great. Candlestick Park? It was then Candlestick Park, but they don't play there anymore so because of

the way things have shaken out I gotta take a Blockbuster personally because this is the last of the Blockbusters that I would be willing to take so I'll take Twister which I feel

like in this podcast yeah I've noticed a couple of passing shots at the 1996 Twister didn't care for it then don't really care for it now. I like it.

I also really liked the new one. Yeah. Did you guys both say it was better than Twister? I did say that. I think it is, yeah. I think I understand that that frustrates people and it is not a diss on Bill Paxton or Helen Hunter or whatever.

I didn't think you were dissing Bill Paxton. I worship Bill Paxton. I'll tell you something else. I don't agree with you, but I'll die for your right to say whatever. I didn't think you were dissing Bill Paxton. I worship Bill Paxton. I'll tell you something else. I don't agree with you, but I'll die for your right to say that. Thank you. Thank you.

It's a good take. I don't agree with it though. I know. Twister's an awesome movie. I would say you had to be there, but you guys both were. You just have your opinions. That's fine.

It was actually an example of beat, like it was one of the first like the times I was like let down at a movie where I had been really

like anticipated because it was this great year of action blockbusters and I saw it and I was like I don't know but that's just me that's just my opinion was it rated

because I think I might have it's PG-13 I think yeah I think I might have seen this one at home yeah probably yeah you didn't see Yon Dabon on the big too. I think I might have seen this one at home. Yeah, probably. You know?

Yeah. You didn't see Yon Dabon on the big screen. I mean, I don't think it will be considered, like, a bad pick by you. People love that movie. Let me tell you that the draft starts here. All the big ones are gone. Okay. And I know, I almost know with a certainty what you're going to take next.

Do you know both? I'm sure that you know one one but can you guess number two why don't you go ahead and draft make the next draft for me yes it will be an oscar nominee it will be english patient yes it will which is you know what whatever elaine bennis says i love this movie i loved it at the time it's quite beautiful so elaine bennis is a is a seinfeld reference for those of you who are too young to remember that. Who are you speaking to? Who the fuck do you think doesn't know? Is listening to the big picture and doesn't know?

Like, anyone under 30? Jack, Leia, do you know this episode of Seinfeld? Okay, Leia says yes. I don't know this specific episode. I've seen Seinfeld. There we go. Right, this is what I'm saying. So, children gather around in 1996 or early 1997 there was an episode of Seinfeld

where one of the b-plots was because English Patient was so revered it was just Elaine going around being like this movie fucking sucks I hate it and like confronting people in line and she like goes on a date with someone who loves it and then she has to like dramatically break up with him with a lot of physical comedy it's very funny um so anyway I think this is a beautiful movie

and also once like we were talking about that thing of suddenly being a part of larger pop culture I was allowed to watch Seinfeld so I was kind of like yeah I was like

wait they're talking about this other thing that I know about um beautiful movie Chris and Scott Thomas doing Herodotus is just really powerful stuff.

The wind speech. Yeah. The lamp has gone out. I'm writing to you in the darkness. Just. Oh, you guys did a movie swap for this.

Yeah. And he was like, whatever. It's all right. That's fine. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Yeah. Ralph Fiennes.

What's up? It's not better than Fargo. I can fucking tell you that for sure. It's definitely not better than Jerry Maguire either. So I don't know what that's all about. This was also, this Oscars was when one of the Billy Crystal ones where he was in all the montages and then at the very end, he famously is like in the yellow plane.

Good one. In the plane crash, which is like pretty essential to our. Good one. Yeah. Okay. So important. Can you guess what I'm going to do next, Chris Ryan? Celtic Pride for comedy? You can? You can? Good one. Yeah. Okay. So important. Can you guess what I'm going to do next? Chris Ryan. Uh,

Celtic pride for comedy. You can. Can I, I'll write it down. Yeah. Right here. Okay. And if I,

if you're right, tweet it right now, just randomly tweeted. Why don't you schedule it? And then it'll go out so far just to be sure if I've got it right here. Yeah. Okay. I think I know.

Yes. Okay. You're writing it down? Hold on. This is exciting. Okay. Go ahead. In drama, I'll be taking Romeo and Juliet. There we go. Bang. Yeah. I mean, you have to. Nailed it. This is... This is the other...

This is the other, like... This exploded. And it was beyond even the film. It was just like... Listen. Like, we knew about Leo. Here's the thing. Like, we knew about Leo. Here's the thing. We knew about Leo. I don't know if I knew about Radiohead until Radiohead started playing

to his point about the soundtrack. I love the soundtrack. I love talk show hosts. And it pans to Leo. And I was just like, wow, my world has changed. That whole soundtrack is incredible. Local God by Everclear? Absolutely. People... I mean... I mean... whole soundtrack is incredible yeah um local god by everclear absolutely the people i mean i mean great song listen and this was loveful right uh-huh yeah which i like i went to a

jingle ball aquarium to um see the cardigans yeah because of i mean listen like unbelievable shit i was doing good band the work in 1996 and 1997. This is why... The Aquarium. Bless them both. So, Romeo and Juliet. I would have taken this if you hadn't. Yeah. I think this is a great movie.

Baz Luhrmann is a black licorice filmmaker for me. You think it's good? Some good speeches. Some cool twists. I think the stylization of this is an amazingly cool choice. And I think it spawnization of this is unreal is an amazingly cool choice

and I think it spawned a lot of bad imitators it did I saw all of them I also think I don't really know what Baz Luhrmann's on about pretty much

from here on out like I just don't I didn't I haven't really gotten a movie he's made since then but this movie especially that

introduction I agree with you about the Leo sequence with talk show host playing and you're like that's fucking movie stardom right there yeah but the john leguizamo and dash mehook and the showdown at the gas station i'm like what the fuck is this like it was a real can you do this moment for me too um that i think works really well right i think being young when you see this really matters so maybe you being a little bit i don't know if you

like this movie or not but my wife's still obsessed with it. Yeah. Both with Claire Danes and with Leonardo DiCaprio and the music and the fashion and everything. Like, I think it's like an absolutely seminal film for people. Just like one of the key references of the 90s. And I like, I don't mean to disrespect it by picking it fourth. It was just kind of how the drafts came out.

It's amazing it lasted this long. But that's why it's a great year. Okay, Chris, you've got to pick. You know what sometimes happens with these drafts is that you just don't want to pick the same movies you've picked in other random drafts.

I think that only happens to you. Really? Yeah, so, and we appreciate it because you're all about the content, you know, and you're about changing it up. And that's great. But if you want to be a guy who wins.

I don't really care about winning. Yeah. I care about entertaining and I care about the connections that we make with each other and with our listeners. Yeah. You're like Jerry Lewis.

It's not about awards. Dude, if I did a telethon, you think I could raise money? You would be so good at a telethon. You would. But what would I raise money for?

The National Republic, I think. The Patriot for incarcerated picture. All the money you've siphoned out of that organization. I'll take, God, we should have you

do a telethon. I will answer phones. I'll do this. God, man. What do I want to do here? NBA Palooza was kind of a telethon. Yeah.

Yeah, it was. Because the thing with comedy here, Oh, no. I'm getting nervous. I'm trying to decide whether I want to go with the thing that I watch the. Because the thing with comedy here... Oh, no. I'm getting nervous. I'm trying to decide whether I want to go with the thing that I watch the most

or the thing that I like the most is a comedy. Okay. Comedy is fucking stacked. I know I'm not going to pick the thing that you want.

Comedy. I would be honestly happy with any of my top seven. I would genuinely be happy. Should I just recap what I have so far just in terms of categories? Yeah, that seems like great. Should I just recap what I have so far? Just in terms of the categories? Yeah, that seems like great.

Once again, are you a professional podcaster? I have a drama. It's Trainspotting. I don't have a comedy. I have an Oscar nominee in Fargo. I don't have an action horror thriller. I have a blockbuster and I don't have a wildcard. My blockbuster is Twister.

So you're just missing comedy and... Action horror thriller and wildcard. He's got Trainspotting, Fargo, and Twister so you're just missing comedy and action thriller and wild card so he's got train spotting Fargo and Twister now action horror thriller is a little trickier there are some good movies for sure yeah that's why I'm gonna take primal fear and thriller that's what I thought you would have done um and I only mean that just because I feel like good for you Marty or whatever is it's a great movie it's I've said it so many times but it's such a great example of what we were we were capable of as a people yeah and as a society this is one where the twist was spoiled for me before i saw it that sucks well it sucks but that's it's another one

that you can then go back and watch the movie knowing it and you're like oh i see right but i mean but it was like a little different yeah Yeah. That's okay. Phenomenal Edward Norton performance. Larry Flint's the same year, I think, right? Is he in? He's in Larry Flint, right? He's the lawyer. He is.

So it was a big Edward Norton year. Yeah. And so like I just, he was like a major deal like just for me as like, oh, like a guy who kind of like is almost my age. He's like popping off right now.

We've talked a lot about Primal Fear, but incredible courtroom drama, incredible legal thriller, and one of the all-time twists. Great pick. I've got two picks. Right now you have Jerry Maguire in drama. Questionable, but we're allowing it. The Rock in action horror thriller. And Independence Day in blockbuster. Well, in Ostradom, I'm taking that thing you do.

Fuck. So that's what you get for taunting me. Once again, you have aired. I was doing filler. You always tell me to do filler and I was doing it. You have aired deeply. God damn it. I was so close to my perfect game. Do you think that this film is beloved by people who are Jack and Alea's age?

Jack and Alea, have you seen that thing you do? Show of hands. Thumbs down. Thumbs down and not seen. Wait, is thumbs down like... You don't like it? Or you haven't seen it? Oh, okay.

Okay, that's better. I also have not seen it. Okay. Okay. Well, you're missing out on a modern classic. You know who had the streets completely fucking in a headlock at this time was Liv Tyler. I mean. You couldn't throw a pebble without hitting a Liv Tyler movie.

This was also the year of Stealing Beauty, the Bernardo Bertolucci movie that she starred in. Also starring Rachel Weisz, quite memorably. That thing you do for any of you at home listening along who have not heard of this movie this is the directorial debut of Tom Hanks written and directed by Tom Hanks

about a effectively a one hit wonder in the late 1950s early 1960s one hit one eater one eaters they're called the wonders

actually 1964 that's later than I would have thought this was set in and it's just a delightful dramedy. Very, very, very well made. Adam Schlesinger, the late Adam Schlesinger from Fountains of Green wrote the songs. Including the title song, which is the song that was nominated, that got it to be an Oscar nominee. Did not win.

Did Evita win? Well, Evita wasn't added. I guess songs were added. Yeah, a song was added, which is like absolute bullshit. That thing you do, the song, is like one of the only songs

in history that meets my best original song qualifications. I do think that You Must Love Me from Evita is very good. Sure. It's Andrew Lloyd Webber

and Tim Rice. Listen, I could sing it right now. Okay. You're not a fan of Evita? Uh-uh. You don't like her politics? I saw Evita on a class trip.

Really? Isn't that funny? Yeah. I also saw Romeo and Juliet for the first time in class. That's cool. Really? Yeah. It was shown to me in an English class the following year.

I don't think I saw it in theaters. Do you think that teacher was nursing something that day? I mean, public high school in Long Island, they think that teacher was nursing something that day? I mean, public high school on Long Island, they were just like, it's movie day every third day. We were doing

Colonial America as a history block and we watched Spartacus for some reason and it was quite obvious that that was not the teacher's best. Did you also see Caligula?

Best Wednesday. We watched the films of Ken Russell. That lineup of best original song that year was You Must Love Me Which One. I finally found someone from The Mirror Has Two Faces, the Barbra Streisand film, for the first time from One Fine Day. One of the most bitter romantic comedies of its era. It's really tough.

Fascinating movie. That Thing You Do and Because You Loved Me from Up Close and Personal. Incredibly important. Written by Diane Oren. In its own way. Yeah. And performed by the one, the only. Celine Dion. I feel good about that pick. I have another pick. I think I've seen that movie

upwards of 50 times. It's a great movie. I am obsessed with that movie. And obviously it plays into our whole Beatles thing. Tom Everett Scott is that his name? Forever gonna forever going to be Jonathan Skate? Oh, yeah. And Ethan Embry and Steve Zahn and Steve Zahn is the rhythm guitarist. Yeah, really, really.

The Wolfman. No, no, no. Wolfman is who they were. He's the drummer in the beginning. Yeah. I think. Do I only have wildcard? No, I have comedy.

Oh, no. Giovanni Ribisi is the drummer in the beginning. Yes. And then Wolfman is the bass player. That's right. He's the one who comes in. Because Ethan Embry enlists. Or gets drafted.

He's enlist. I think he like goes to Disneyland. Oh, that's right. And then he enlists. Tom Hanks is like, what are you doing? So you have one last slot. Or you have two slots. I read it once in his cocktail waitress at the jazz club.

Do you have a comedy? No, but I have some backups. So it's okay. And do you have a comedy? I don't. Wow. I'll be fine. So comedy? I don't. Wow. I'll be fine. So we waited a long time to go to this category, but now it feels like the right time.

I wanted that thing you do in comedy, but. I thought so. Well, as always. You went out of the. You're generous. You did the thing that I was praising us for not doing, which is dipping out of the big six. I did. I did.

But. Had to be done. Yeah. Hmm. Right now, I'm really wishing that Chris and I had learned like a two-person

choral arrangement of the Bruce Springsteen song from Jerry Maguire to sing to you. She whispered to you in her head.

Isn't it Secret Garden? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the radio station would play it with the clips. I'm glad you brought this up. We were talking about A Complete Unknown on the show. This is an episode that aired two months ago from when we were speaking, but nevertheless.

Where do you think your emotional state in regards to A Complete Unknown will be on October 8th? I will not have seen it by this point. Yeah. I miss this segment. I think what is the general vibe? He's just having a fucking meltdown because it's like what he wants

but also what he doesn't want and it's not the right. I'm not where Andy is. Andy was like, this looks like garbage to me on the podcast. Yes. I didn't say that.

I don't think it's going to be garbage. I'm a little concerned that it's not what I want out of a movie about Bob Dylan. Which isn't, you know, that's a musician that I really care about. And so that led to a conversation about Bruce Springsteen and maybe that Jeremy Allen White movie will happen. And I was like, you know, I really like Bruce Springsteen, but he's not like essential to my musical taste. Yeah. But I was wondering, trying to think of like, would you say that he is for you?

Bruce Springsteen? Yeah. He's pretty big. Yeah. He yeah he's pretty big it's it's not definitional for me and like my personality and my life but i really like a lot of his records and pumped them still to this day what's your favorite uh you can't say nebraska anymore so i'm gonna go darkness on the edge of town okay that's like that's the right pick that's like cool yeah you know still some pop edge i'm'm you understand I'm used to your music psychologies at this point

I feel like thanks for also like just minimizing me and just being like you're just like a like a me? NPC who just plays

as a hipster um I mean you said it not me uh I'm taking Happy Killing you're like I like Bob Dylan

yeah of course I'm not I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I Dylan. Yeah, of course. I willingly accept the cliche of my life, just like I willingly accept the cliche of being a 14-year-old boy

who saw Happy Gilmore. He was simply delighted. And I am delighted to this day. And I think it is a world-class comedy and I love it. It's got to be weird. Like when I saw Caddyshack when I was a kid, I was like, this is funny. But I wonder if you look at Happy Gilmore now as a 20-something. Are you like, this is dumb? This is

horrendous? 20-somethings? Happy Gilmore? These are the guys. Five-star banger. Five-star banger. Thumbs up. Okay, that's good to know. Hell yes! Listen, the kids are alright. The kids are alright. Thank you so much. That's great. That's good. It's really important. Obviously, we lost Carl Weathers this year. Happy Gilmore, he's a critical part of that film.

You know, we lost Bob Barker recently, one of Chris's favorite talk show hosts and personalities and someone whose sexual politics he understands. Have you ever been on a talk show host? I think you'd be really good. No? Maybe. I don't think I would be good as a contestant. Oh, no, I think you'd be great.

I think I would lose in jeopardy. I would find it really fun. But I think I'd lose in jeopardy for not. Were you trying to guess the price of a pack of sponges, you know, on prices, right? You should go on supermarket sweep. That is what I want to see. Pushing the cart around, looking for sausages. That's what I want. Did you guys read the interview with the gay couple who who like okay so this this like went viral two

months ago when we recorded this everyone but it was like someone took a screenshot of an old supermarket suite episode and it was like two guys who were like quote-unquote business partners um but you know obviously they are together and so slate found them and they are very much together and now they're legally married and also their parents like were both widowed and they got married and they're really happy so it's a very lovely story but they also talked about their supermarket sweep strategy their parents were both widowed and got married yeah wow yeah no it's really nice but then they talked about they ended up losing kind of Targaryen vibes even though they because because they didn't think about the weight distribution in the cart before the end so they put like put all the frozen turkeys and stuff

first and then it was too and i just really would like to see you chris ryan pushing a cart full of frozen turkeys around yeah and trying to tend with the weight maybe for your 50th live supermarket podcast sure sounds good she's 66 oh my god we should we really should just make a like you should have to share your weird food opinions on the tiktok and you we should just follow you gopro in the grocery store you know and that i think that would be really amazing we don't give away this content you know we don't just give it away fine put a you know you figure out how to monetize it. You're the big brains, right?

We optimize. You put together a deck. Yeah. You and Ed Norton and you let me know. Okay? I would happily accept his investment

if he were so interested in my future business as a food sharer of opinions. He's just making the presentation for you. Okay. Well, that works too. You've got a pick.

For comedy. So I've got comedy and then wild card, right? For comedy, I'm going to pick. For comedy. So I've got comedy and then wild card, right? For comedy, I'm going to go with Tin Cup. Good one. Ron Shelton's look at a fallen golfer who's making a run at the US Open. One of my favorite Costners. Dynamite Rene Russo.

Very funny Don Johnson. Incredible ensemble of supporting characters and a really, really, really, really amazing sports movie. It's so good. The Last Hour is like watching a golf tournament on TV. It's just a tournament, but that actually is pretty cool. It's one of my favorite things to do.

Watch Kevin Costner and Don Johnson play nine holes. The conclusion is really, really, really good. Also some just amazing, basically taking very specific golf things, like a guy who thinks he can carry water, you know, but I hit a ball over water and he can't, but he just keeps insisting that he can. You know, this is how I learned about what Laying Up is.

Yes. When I rewatched it for the Kevin Costner Hall of Fame. And I was like, oh, oh, that's what they say. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. So I'll do Tin Cup. Okay.

You got two. I do. In a way, it's nice because I don't have to worry about my perfect game anymore. Okay. Speaking of Kevin Costner and if because if I've gotten that thing you do in comedy

then like the pressure to pick like the truly perfect wild card would have been sort of unbearable this is you trying to emotionally reconcile

that your awful behavior led to your inability to be perfect I was filling air time while you were indecisive which is something

you have asked me to do. You can go negative or you can go positive. I'm choosing to go positive. I'm celebrating the films of Tom Hanks. That's what I did. Much like the Academy almost did by nominating. That's right. So I think in comedy,

I'm going to be true to my heart and also true to my heart and also true to 96 Amanda Mars attacks and to really like a vocal minority of Ringer podcast listeners who are just waiting

for the First Wives Club to be featured on absolutely any podcast it seems like it's just like a blind spot looks like it's being featured on the big picture everybody else

so here we are. Are those people who want to hear that episode First Wives? They want that representation? This was a very big thing. It was a very popular movie. Yeah, this is Goldie Hawn, Bette Midler, and Diane Keaton.

And then Sarah Jessica Parker in a dynamite supporting role. Dealing with the death of their college friend and also their shitty husbands. And then expressing their feelings through song. Is this a musical? No, but at the end they do You Don't Own Me. Oh, okay.

Which is pretty important. And they're all wearing white and... I haven't seen it you have not seen okay well whatever um weird because you're such a huge bet middler guy so i would have thought this would have been one of your faves i actually don't know other than bird cage if she's she's in bird cage right who's no is bet middler and birdcage weist oh yeah now that's racist against white women Diane Wiest is great in Mirror of Kingston

I'll bet she is I'll never know haven't seen it have you seen First Wives Club? I have seen First Wives Club why did you watch that?

I would rank it why would I watch it? did you watch it for like a pod or did you watch it well I was being raised by a first wife and I would say she was very excited for the film i do believe we saw it together um like there are a lot of people have seen this movie i know it made 181 million dollars

it would have been funny if that was my first film school assignment is direct the first wives club so it's directed by a man named hugh. Can you name any other films that Hugh Wilson has directed? Did he do Chariots of Fire? No. That's Hugh Hudson. Did he do... And Hugh Hudson also did Tarzan. Greystroke.

Yeah. Legend of Greystroke. Sure. This is fun. Can you name any... He's directed some big movies. No, I can't. Well, he directed Police Academy.

Okay. Oh, what a auteur. He also directed Blast from the Past, starring Brendan Fraser. Oh, wow. What year did Police Academy come out? 1984. Have we done... We've drafted 84, haven't we?

We have, in fact. Yeah. In honor of... Of me. What year did Police Academy 2 come out? Can we draft that? I'm not sure. He directed

Dudley Do-Right. Sure. He directed Guarding Tess. Has anyone seen Guarding Tess? I actually seen Guarding Tess.

Yeah, of course. Good film. Some other stuff. Okay. So, Wild Card. I have a few things I could do here. You know,

and I mentioned Matilda. I mentioned Emma. It was a... What a time it was to be 12 years old but i do think i'll do bottle rocket for wild card yeah that's what that's what happens when you take that thing you do i have other options but i was definitely circling yeah this is wes anderson's. Introduces us to the Wilson brothers and or, you know, the future Harrison Ford. One of whom would go on to be the future Harrison Ford. And this is not something that I saw in 96,

but this is, I probably saw it after Tenenbaums and then went back and did Rushmore and Bottle Rocket. And, you you know we've talked about a million times that Wes Anderson is sort of like a generational touch point for at least for us we have just completed uh the Grand Budapest Hotel rewatchables yesterday so uh we we shared a lot of Wes Anderson takes it's been out for two months yeah yeah did you guys talk about Millennial Pink I brought it brought it up oh good thank you i'm glad it was an honor okay you know about millennial pink i do yeah i mean i knew about it before the podcast that's actually amanda's influence that is that's how profound to

reference the palette and specifically the trendy color right and it's such a way the way it's i mean it like and commodified and it's yeah yeah mean, it like... And commodified and influenced the culture. Yeah. It led the way. So I have a wild card. Are you thinking Bottle Rocket? But that pink is honestly prettier than true millennial pink

because Wes Anderson has immaculate taste. I couldn't tell. It's a pinker. I couldn't tell the difference. It's a vibrant... It's an amazing movie. Close to...

Bottle Rocket also. It's scabarelli. Hot pink pink. I'm excited for talking about honorable mentions because there's... So many. So many. for talking about honorable mentions because there's so many so many but I would feel

and there's a bunch of movies that I'm like I can already hear people be like how could you not I am going to draft Lone Star with my wild card

I saw Lone Star in 96 when it came out and I was like is that the best movie I've ever seen in my life it's the only movie

that I rewatched for this podcast and It's the only movie that I rewatched for this podcast. And it is the only movie that I rewatched for this podcast. Really? Oh, it was last night? And you know what?

Look at that! It's fucking incredible. We're so back. It's still so, so moving at the end. I don't think a lot of people have seen this movie. It's a film by John Sayles

set in Texas. It is essentially a season of The Wire condensed into one film. I saw a review that said that on Letterboxd. It was like this had... Was it Chris's? No, but it was like this is a season of prestige television shrunk down to one film. Yeah, and you can sometimes feel like there's lots of subplots in this movie,

but at its heart, it is a murder mystery and romance movie where the murder mystery and the romance are kind of tied together. It was Matthew McConaughey's other big breakout, aside from Dazed, was being in flashbacks Chris Cooper's father. And it stars Chris Cooper and Elizabeth Pena in the film. Also an amazing Joe Morton performance and an amazing Chris Christopherson performance. And it's essentially about a corrupt sheriff,

the man who replaces him and the people who grow up underneath that man. It's maybe not the most elegant way of describing it. And then also there's an army base in this Texas town and there's a crime committed. So it's just like a lot of stuff happening. But Sales is like one of the best ever at being like here's 12 characters

and how their lives kind of collapse on each other. And this is my favorite Sales movie. Mine too and not confusing. Usually a movie that is this sprawling I think can sometimes get a little bit difficult to navigate. But it's only like two hours and ten minutes it's not that long and one of the great endings

I don't know about movie history but like one of my favorite endings to a film ever yeah great reveal you got a very curious look on your face because you just you see two men who really admire one another no it was cute I was just like that you guys are having a moment and I great movie also it's like in sales movies

you get to see actors who you will see so much Chris Cooper Elizabeth Pena Joe Morton over the course of your life and they're never quite

featured the way they are in sales movies kind of John Sayles movies he takes character actors and lets them be movie stars for two hours and it's always

it's always sick but Makani what the hell he's glimmering in this movie Wild Card and taking swingers yeah which is not often bundled in with the Tarantino generation that you mentioned at the very beginning but I do think is actually a part of it in a very specific way because I personally

got very invested in like how they got this movie made and i was very interested in favreau's like story this is one of the very few like screenplays i bought in a store and i was very interested to know like how he wrote it even though it's not like a terribly complex movie it's just like a bunch of guys talking in rooms um they did a good job of kind of like explaining to the world what a like wunderkind moment this was for a guy who'd also similarly to Tarantino been struggling for a while but the movie itself

was just like very very cool to a dorky kid from Long Island and it featured a world and it's only now as I get older

and I've lived in Los Angeles for a long time that I see like what losers the guys in the movie were that I see that Trent who seemed like the coolest guy of all time

because he was such a great talker and he was very tall and handsome you know doesn't have a whole lot going on in his life yeah um and that the movie takes on a completely different it's it's colored differently by aging and also seeing Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau become so huge right and so important to Hollywood. And it's very much a time capsule movie. Like, I don't know if I would watch it every day. And also, speaking of soundtracks, this is a soundtrack that I really love. Not so much the swing dancing stuff, but the actual jazz and R&B that's on that soundtrack is phenomenal.

Let me ask you this. If there's no swingers, is there a sphere in Las Vegas? Why do you say that? Did swingers revitalize Vegas so much and make it a destination beyond just like this is a place you can go gamble or like a crazy thing that we can do in the middle of the night or whatever?

God. To the point where it becomes first it goes what happens in Vegas like all that stuff that happens after Bill's writing about it. You know like everybody starts talking about it and then it increases like its footprint in terms of being a tourist destination for stuff outside of gambling to where you wind up. With the hangover and then the sphere.

When did the What Happens in Vegas tagline come around? Obviously, there was a movie, but I think the catchphrase was before that, the commercial, the sort of marketing campaign. I think it's after Vegas, baby Vegas. I think it's after swingers. According to the Cincinnati Inquirer, which is what I was fed by Google, 2003. Well, thank you to Jon Favreau for his work. I love swingers. There's so many honorable mentions. I don't even know where to begin. Where would you like to begin, Amanda? We could start with things that are in the top 10 highest grossing.

Including, you briefly mentioned The Birdcage, but The Birdcage, which was probably my first Mike Nichols movie. And you mentioned Matthew McConaughey, A Time to Kill. Chris's first Mike Nichols movie was Closer. That's funny you know those were big movies time to kill and the birdcage making

124 million dollars domestic is pretty wild yeah also on that list Ransom give me back my son yeah

which was a phenomenon and actually made 136 million dollars that movie Ron Howard Ron Howard Ron Howard? Ron Howard. Ron Howard and Mel Gibson in his prime of stardom. That movie, Outgrossing the Rock,

is fascinating. I really do not like the 101 Dalmatians adaptation. That's Glenn Close? With Glenn Close, but that movie was also huge that year. Has that been in your home? The original. Oh, the cartoon. Yeah. Eraser? Schwarzenegger. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Eraser.

Schwarzenegger. Not a very good movie. Nominated for an Oscar. It was. I noticed that. Were you thinking of drafting it? What do you guys think

of Phenomenon and Michael? The two John Travolta films from that year. It's tough for my girl. Arguably her biggest L. Yeah. Who's your girl? Nora Ephron. Yeah? Nora Ephron.

Yeah, Nora Ephron. But what's the other even bigger L that we watched recently? Mixed Nuts. Oh, you're right. That one is worse. Yeah, that's the biggest L. Michael's okay. Phenomenon I'm not a very big fan of.

I'm going to walk you through a couple of things here. Please. Those were just the big movies, not the movies we love. I don't even know if this really fits into the big pictures agenda, but this was a very good time for HBO Films, which put out about 10 narrative scripted films, and one a month, and it would just be like, these have largely been forgotten.

I was a very big fan of many of these movies. I don't know how available they are on Max, or if they're available on DVD, but The Late Shift was a really big deal for me. I don't know why, but i was like loved it really fascinated by it and also the style of filmmaking that it had was very like verite and this idea that like you you would be seeing dave letterman and jay leno negotiating their contracts even if it was fictional or whatever is crazy there was another really good hbo movie that i i can't find uh but I remember very fondly, which is called Don't Look Back,

which was a early Billy Bob Thornton script. And it's about Eric Stoltz playing a junkie in LA who steals a suitcase full of money and absconds back to Texas where he's from. Never seen this. And hooks up with his high school friends and then the dealers come looking for him. Interesting.

It's like kind of a one false move-ish movie, but it's really cool. And then there's a lot of really good low low brow i don't even know if i want to say it's low brow let's talk about from dust till dawn it was my it was right behind swingers in my wild card pick it would it was it it's it absolutely rocks and i will not apologize for anything that I enjoy about this movie. Yeah. Which is a movie about

two bank robbing hostage taking brothers played very credibly by Quentin Tarantino and George Clooney. Okay. They're brothers.

They're brothers. Yeah. Robert Rodriguez directing. They take a family hostage after a Harvey Keitel and Juliette Lewis. Harvey Keitel, Juliette Lewis. Harvey Keitel, Juliette Lewis.

And they're headed to a meeting point to get the money that they're owed and then get across the border. And that meeting point is a brothel at the edge of town. And that brothel, do you know where this is going? No. You have no idea what this is? No. I almost want to make you watch this movie. Okay.

That brothel's... Don't tell me. Alright, tell me. You don't know? You don't know what this movie is? No. Okay, this...

I mean, when I saw this the first time, you kind of knew because of the marketing, but still I was like, holy fucking shit. Yeah, it was the fucking coolest thing.

It's basically what happens is they get to this brothel. Harvey Keitel's a priest, a defrocked priest who's fallen from his faith this movie is so awesome I can't believe it but George Clooney

has taken them hostage and they get to this brothel and Salma Hayek does a long striptease striptease with a cobra or something okay this is ringing a bell

and then her name is Satanico Pandemonio and they all turn into vampires okay and so they have to fight vampires all night and it's like. And so they have to fight vampires all night. And it's like...

It's like the Wild Bunch with vampires and Salma Hayek in a bikini. That's cool. Like, I was 14, Amanda. Hey, that's awesome. Are you kidding me? I know, but you're just like, how do you, 12-year-old Amanda, not know where this is going? No, no, I'm not blaming you for that. I'm just trying to convey to you what an earth-shifting work of cinema this was.

Okay. Should I keep throwing other ones out there? Yeah. for that. I'm just trying to convey to you what an earth-shifting work of cinema this was. Okay. Should I keep throwing other ones out there? Yeah. Gosh, there's so much Do you like Kingpin? Yeah, I really do. Honestly, it might be

my favorite Farrelly's. It might be mine too. It's a tough one. That was a movie though to your twister point where I think in my head I built it up that this is going to be

the funniest movie of all time. Because of Dumb and Dumber? Because of Bill Murray and Woody Harrelson. Because I was like, this can't, like, all the previews and, like, the idea that they were just doing a bowling comedy, I was like, this is truly going to be my Super Bowl, and I don't know if it lived up

to that. I hope I didn't months in that pick, you know, for comedy. That would have been tough. Bound? Yep. Big one. Big one. Big thriller. I got to say, I'm really working in the... We're still in, like, maybe taking it out

for its... to find its voice and find my steps, but the Al Pacino in City Hall performance gets better and better every time I watch it on YouTube.

Yep. Our families bingling. Our children laughing. Our hearts joined. And he children laughing. Our hearts joined. And he does this. Our hearts joined. That's the international sign

for two dicks touching just for the record. I think I like that movie. Yeah, I love... City Hall is awesome. That's the guy who directed Sea of Love. It's Harold Becker

with a script by Paul Schrader and Bo Goldman yeah and Nick Pelleggi yeah some other stuff Sleepers was a big deal

liked it a lot that year read that book before the movie came out and I was like what? they're gonna make a movie out of this?

I have a bunch you guys yeah Cable Guy which is a movie that was like reviled publicly but if you were a kid you went and saw and probably saw over and over again a movie that maybe like uh relate to more than i'd like to admit um citizen ruth alexander payne's first

film which is a little bit underseen these days much like um a couple of these other movies is not really widely available anymore so i feel like it doesn't have a huge reputation. Waiting for Guffman. Yeah. The Chris Guest movie, which is absolutely hilarious. David O. Russell's Flirting with Disaster, which is I think his second film

and is really, really funny, like an ensemble comedy. Walking and Talking, Nicole Holofcener's second movie, I want to say. Broken Arrow, the third movie of the year for John Travolta, who's playing an absolutely mind broken general,

like stealth Blackbird pilot. Yeah. Steals his plane. Yeah. Um, I mentioned breaking the waves, Chris, the Chris Farley vehicle,

black sheep. Sure. Of course. Sling blade. Yeah. Didn't mention that Billy Bob movie. Uh, would like to give a shout out to Tales from the Crypt presents

Bordello of Blood. Dennis Miller. Starring Dennis Miller. Yeah, that was... Absolutely. I was watching the Dennis Miller show on HBO every week where he was shooting pool

while Tears for Fears Everybody Wants to Rule the World would play and then he would come out and he would explain America to us. And at the time, he was coming off of Saturday Night Live,

not a weird fringe right-wing guy. Yeah. Actually seemed like an incredible thinker in the world. Maybe even shaped some of my ideas. Shall I keep going? Barbed Wire starring Pamela Anderson. Imagine being 14.

Yeah. Just an employee. We were there. Just imagine it. Imagine being a 12-year-old girl at the same time. Did you like the craft? Yeah,

but like, I wasn't really, you know, goth adjacent, so I was aware of it. I was a little more Harriet the Spy than the craft at this point.

I mean, let's be real. I was 12. What else is there? Big Night? Big Night. Big Night. let's be real. I was 12. What else is there? Big Night. Big Night. Big Night. She's the one which I'm like...

I like it. I like it too. And also the Tom Petty song. Good soundtrack. Courage Under Fire. Very good movie. Big Matt Damon. And awesome Denzel Washington.

I'll just shout out Landon Freedom, which was the first Ken Loach I'd ever seen and is basically his homage to Catalonia. It's about a guy who goes from Liverpool to Spain to Loach I'd ever seen and is basically his homage to Catalonia. It's about a guy who goes from Liverpool to Spain to fight. I haven't seen that before. It's really, really cool.

Welcome to the dollhouse. I love saying things like Jim Deak, like, welcome to the dollhouse. Is that your favorite movie? I mentioned it a little earlier. I think it represents a right turn in narrative storytelling

I think Todd Sollins has a movie coming next year so maybe there'll be an opportunity to like look back at his work James Armish's Dead Man came out this year Marvin's Room

just to round out the Leo that's right of it all yeah that was Oscar nominated yeah there was a couple of cool thrillers

the two I'll mention is Trigger Effect which is a David Koepp movie with I believe Kyle MacLachlan and Elizabeth Shue

about what would happen in a like suburban town if there was a blackout that's really cool because it's kind of Lord of the Flies-y right like a long blackout

not like six hours like days yeah um Abel Ferraro's The Funeral yeah starring Chris Walken

that's a great movie uh Walking and Talking Cole Hoff Center yeah I said that oh my bad what about Whisper of the Heart from Studio Ghibli

sure didn't see that you guys haven't seen it have you seen Whisper of the Heart no I haven't what about the documentary When We Were Kings

yeah I was wondering about that for Oscars I thought about it for Oscars as well. It's a damn good film. The Long Kiss Goodnight, directed by Rennie Harlan.

One of the... So there was... That was one that I was going to mention as like... It was almost a bigger story about the making of the movie than the movie itself wound up being because it was such an expensive script. Is that Esther House? Joe Esther House?

Or is that Shane Black? I think it's Shane Black. Shane Black. But it was like the most expensive spec script ever bought. Speaking of behind the scenes stuff, I was wondering if this ever crossed your radar, but Up Close and Personal? Yeah.

Which is the John Gargarudon book monster is based on his experiences working on Up Close and Personal. I didn't know a lot about the woman that Michelle Pfeiffer's character is based on. I read about her last name, Jessica Savage. I don't think I know the real story. I think I just know that Robert Redford's very handsome

in that movie. So Jessica Savage went to Ithaca College. And so she is a very was a much discussed figure when I was studying journalism. And there's a big broadcast journalism program. I was not in the broadcast program, but she was. Do you wish you had been?

Yeah, here you are. Yeah. Funny how that worked out. Do you wish you had gone into broadcast journalism? I don't really have the comportment for television, I don't think. Despite whatever is happening here. I think you would be a great broadcast journalist. I love to hear the news from you at night.

Oh, thanks so much. Is that not a nice thing to say? I mean... Amanda's ready for a snack in case you haven't realized it. I thought I was doing okay. A little buried in here for the last five minutes. It is like the small meals phase of this, right? You know, I've got room for like every two hours. We had the cream cheese and the bagel.

It's okay. It's fine to eat. I respect it. I mean, like if you're saying I remind you of Diane Sawyer, that would be wonderful. I don't really think that's what I'm giving off. I'm afraid I'm giving off more of like crazy Barbara Walters. It's not crazy Barbara Walters. It's like a

peak Jane Pauly. Oh. You know. Okay. Peak Linda Ellerbe. Okay. Thanks. Oh Linda Ellerbe.

That's yeah. I would take that. I just like to cite if Gary Grace set it off before we go. It's another movie I really like. Yeah.

I also would like to cite Heaven's Prisoners starring Alec Baldwin. What happened in that movie? Which was a sexual awakening for me. As was in some ways Girl 6, which I did not. Speaking of sexual awakenings, I'd like to cite Fear starring Mark Wahlberg and Reese Witherspoon. And some things that should not be repeated.

But they live on in my brain. Roller coasters. Yeah. Wild stuff. Super normal episode of this show as usual. Did you think it was bad? I thought it was pretty good. Yeah, I didn't think it was too hostile.

No, it was great. You know, now we know where you are on cream cheese. Yeah, I'm having a very normal career. What about like lox bread? What about it? Well, do you eat smoked salmon? I do. Or lox?

I do. Okay. You know, I would prefer to have just the salmon. I'm not as into the spread. Okay. It's not a hard and fast thing.

If you handed me a sandwich with lox bread, I would eat it. Thanks for checking in on that. Appreciate it. Would you like to recap your picks, Chris?

Oh, yeah, sure. You closed your laptop. Amanda, why don't you recap your picks? Hold on. I got to scroll up. I'm right here. Go for it, Amanda. Okay.

In drama, I have Romeo and Juliet. In comedy, I have The First Wives Club. In Oscar nominee, The English Patient, which is actually an Oscar winner. In action horror thriller, I have Scream. In blockbuster, I have Mission Impossible, starring Tom Cruise. And in wild thriller, I have Scream. In blockbuster, I have Mission Impossible starring Tom Cruise. And in wild card, I have Bottle Rocket. Chris? In drama, I had

Trainspotting. Shout out to Warren Slippy. I still listen to Techno to this day because of that song. Yep. Comedy, Sit-in Cup. Oscar nominee, I took Fargo. Action horror thriller, I took Primal Fear. Blockbuster, I took Twister. Wild card, I took Lone Star. In drama, I took Fargo. Action horror thriller, I took Primal Fear. Blockbuster, I took Twister.

Wild card, I took Lone Star. In drama, I took Jerry Maguire. In comedy, I took Happy Gilmore. In Oscar nominee, I took That Thing You Do. In action horror thriller, I took The Rock. In blockbuster, I took Independence Day. And in wild card, I took Swingers. Thank you, guys. You're so welcome.

How's future you feeling? About what? About what just happened here? How would it be different from current me? I don't know. How do you think when you wake up on October 8th and you think about this day, how do you think you'll be feeling? I'll be perfectly honest with you. I will not be thinking about it.

Every single episode that we record, I'm like, that will never be something honest with you. I will not be thinking about it. Every single episode that we record, I'm like, that will never be something I return to. Oh, really? Yeah. I go back and listen.

You do? Yeah, sometimes. Oh, that's nice. I remember driving around Philadelphia, I don't know, not that long ago, listening to you

dying about Thanos on a draft. I'd be like so mad that I took it. Oh, man. That was like, you quit. That was like the end of the year, I think, and you I took it. Oh man, that was like, you quit. That was like the end

of the year, I think. And you were really, really spent and you were just like, I'm going to walk out of here. But fortunately for both of you, I returned.

And so, thank you both very much for participating in this. Thanks to Les and Eris. Thanks to Jack Sanders. Thanks for the listeners of the show. We'll be back

at some point in October. You won't be here more than likely. Yeah. What else is happening in October? Unless you figure out

how to answer voice text. Can I tell you what? I will not be doing that. Can I call in? Of course. You'll answer the phone? We gotta get an old recording? Old landline

with speakerphone. So this is true. This is what I have on the schedule right now. On October 11th, which is the next episode that is planned, I literally have, that we'll be covering the movie,

Saturday Night, which is directed by Jason Reitman. And the talent that I have listed to be the co-host of that episode is Chris Ryan. Now, will that actually happen? Why wouldn't it? Is it something you want to happen? Because I haven't run it by you.

I would love to do that. Okay. Stay tuned for that episode. Isn't Gabrielle Laelle lauren michaels in that movie my stock i have so much stock invested in this guy i was trying to tell amanda i'm kind of excited about this movie i i like saturday night live i i love comedy and you know i like i've read that book i like the history of the stuff i have some reservations based on what I've seen, including a recently released photo of Nicholas Braun as Jim Henson. I've seen it. Okay. But I'm excited to listen to you guys talk about it.

I do think you should have Naaman on at the end. If I have Naaman on, it means Jason Reitman is not coming on the podcast. So he's not listed right now. I don't know if you've sent the request. Well, I guess we'll find out. We'll see. Yeah. I'll speak to Jason as well.

We'll see what happens. Thanks for listening. We'll see you on Saturday night. you