The Big Picture - The 1999 Movie Draft

Episode Date: April 16, 2024

We are drafting again! Sean, Amanda, and Chris Ryan reunite and are joined by several special guests for a mega-draft of the best movies of 1999. Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guests: Chris Ryan, Mallory Rubin, Joanna Robinson, Van Lathan, and Rob Mahoney Senior Producer: Bobby Wagner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm Sean Fennessey. I'm Amanda Davitt. And this is The Big Picture, a conversation show about 1999. Chris Ryan is here drafting with us once again. What's up, man? I'm doing very well. This is our 40th draft, and so we had to up our game. This is 40.

Well, this has been 40 on this podcast for a while for me, honestly. Hey, speak for yourself. But you're almost there. You're 40. Van Lathan is here. I'll be 44 tomorrow. Congratulations. Happy birthday. What does that make you? What's your sign. I'll be 44 tomorrow. Congratulations. Yeah.

Happy birthday. What does that make you? What's your sign? I'm an Aries. Okay. Okay. We'll get into that later. Mallory Rubin is here.

Hello. Am I supposed to give my age? You don't have to if you don't want to. I guess that'll come up contextually when we talk about where we were in 1999. It absolutely will. Joanna Robinson is here. Oh, hello. And Rob Mahoney is here.

You know them from various Ringer podcasts. You know them from various big picture drafts. This is the murder team. It's Voltron. This is the hit crew. You didn't let Rob speak. Oh, hi. Did you want to say something?

Absolutely nothing. He's very economical with his words. I try to be. You know, you want people to assign names to voices. Yes. If there's seven voices, that could be important. This is a rare case, though, where we're on video, and so don't even worry

about talking. Just look beautiful, and it'll be fine. I'll do my best. Rob, you should boost the Texas drawl, just to stand out a little bit. Lots of opportunities for that with this draft class. How do you feel about this guy wearing a cowboy hat kind of on your corner today? I don't love it, just because my culture is not your costume,

but I like the bit you're trying to pull off. You know what's funny about that is that black people invented cowboy culture. Oh. I've been high-rooted. Yeah. Just remember. This is tough for me. Just remember, there's a white guilt card for almost every single emotion.

I can promise you that. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I've taken responsibility for everything that's ever happened to me before the end of this goddamn podcast. I take it back. I take it you that. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I've taken responsibility for everything that's ever happened to me before I did this goddamn podcast. I take it back. I take it all back. Let's save that level of enmity for the drafting, please. Let's do it. We have waited a long time to do 1999.

This is widely considered one of the best movie release years of the last hundred years of movies. I don't know. Why did we wait? Was there a reason? Because you have a diabolical system known only to yourself where you save the important things for occasions. And we decided 40 is it. It's a big one. It's a very big one. So before you're 40, we're doing a big 40.

And I'm feeling excited about it. So 1999, Chris, I'd like to start with you. Okay. In 1999, you were what? Roughly 37. I just retired from start with you. Okay. In 1999, you were what? Roughly 37. I just retired from minor league baseball. Where were you? Who were you?

What kind of a guy were you? I was living in Boston. I had just returned from a semester abroad. So much like Tom Ripley, I chased the Caravaggios across the continent. Was this in Kosovo? Where did you do your... No, I was in Ireland,

in Cork. And then I traveled all over Europe. They have a really lovely spring break there. It's like a month. And then I got back and I saw The Matrix. And I was like, this is what it's all about. This premise is Oscar bait, guys. This is Oscar bait.

Somebody's got to do that. Who's going to star as him? We're going to bring Hedges out Lucas Hedges Yeah Lucas Hedges I like that I like that energy

Chris Ryan's European rums Yeah This is Oscar bait right here Standing online at the Uffizi Just thinking about About my place I see it The name of the film is Abroad

Yeah But there's an extra space Between the A and the B And it's like Is it about your pursuit Of an Irish woman? Yeah Great So it's like, is it about your pursuit of an Irish woman? Yeah, great. So it's like a little bit before midnight.

Or before sunset or whatever. A little bit. The beekeeper. A little bit. What else? What are the other influences? What if Linklater did beekeeper? That's the Chris Ryan story. Thank you. Okay, Amanda, 1999. Who were you? Well, I was 14 years old uh so that was tough that was

just I mean I was a freshman in high school pretty much a virgin who can't drive um you know got some follow-up questions that was also me in 99 so don't go take it um so in some ways that was just you, the absolute rock bottom of my life. And in other ways, I was open to the possibility of pop culture because I was stuck at home with a cable subscription. No HBO. But, you know, TRL was hitting hard. And when I could get someone to drive me to the mall, I could see a lot of movies. I think I saw a lot of these movies the next year on Blockbuster or on cable or whatever.

But I did see a lot of movies because I had nothing else to do. Mallory, did you want to address your virginity in 1999? I was in seventh and eighth grade. Okay. Okay. I just want to make clear I was not a virgin in 1999. Thanks for clearing the record there. We'll cover that in the movie thanks chris that'll be going in as a footnote not making the final edit what flavor of pie was it chris no no no okay a warm apple chris has just turned

on the down no dude i was fucking. Yeah, I was in middle school. So, 99 was a big movie year because this was like the beginning of that stretch of your life. You know, end of elementary school, early middle school, like you're going out on your own. Your parents let you go hang out with your friends,

but also you're still hanging out with your parents a lot. So, I feel like I saw maybe double the movies in this stretch out in theaters that I did in any other point in my life because there were the movies I saw with friends. There were the movies that I saw with my family. Then there were the movies in this stretch out in theaters that I did in any other point in my life because there were the movies I saw with friends, there were the movies that I saw with my family, then there were the movies like

he alluded to American Pie that just instantly made their way into the Franklin Middle rotation and you basically couldn't go over anybody's house without immediately re-watching American Pie together. So it was a formative time in Reisterstown, Maryland.

Van, what about you? 1999. Deep into competitive billiards. Yeah. What? What? For sure. Yeah.

Say more about the league, about your uniform. I'm seeing a man of a thousand lives. I'm seeing Forrest Whitaker and the color of money. Yeah, that's me. That was you.

Deep into competitive billiards. I started working. I was at Louisiana Tech University. This is almost all I was doing. I was at Louisiana Tech University and I started working in the kennel. I was at Louisiana Tech University, and I started working in the kennel. Our mascot was the Bulldogs. So I was working in the kennel, and I got to play pool for free. And one day I saw this guy.

Was the kennel just like a bar? It's like the student union hangout place. And so I saw this guy, Ellis, and he was racking up nine ball, and he was running out nine ball racks. And so I was like, teach me. And so then we went through a whole Obi-Wan Kenobi, Luke Skywalker, whole thing where he taught me how to play pool. And I bought a Meuchi Q.

I started watching Earl Strickland and Efren Reyes videos. And in 99, it was all about competitive pool to the point to where I became intramural pool champion of Louisiana Tech University. These are all facts. I can never tell where the man ends and the bit begins with you. Louisiana Tech University. These are all facts. I can never tell where the man ends and the bit begins with you. It's facts. This is all facts.

Can we get this fact checked legitimately? Intramural pool champion, 1999. College is fucking amazing. Louisiana Tech University. How many years did your teacher then spend in hiding on Tatooine? Oh, well, a long time

because I was the chosen one. So he had to protect me. I'll tell you straight up, this was what I was into. That whole time, pool, pool, pool. The only thing I broke pool for, the Matrix.

That's it. Eight hours a day, nine ball racks, three-star drills, setting it up, just drawing the ball back. The only film from 1999 you've seen is the Matrix?

It's the only one I saw at the time. So I wonder what's the one movie that Van feels like he has to draft or else he's going to have a bad day. So look, real quick. There was a girl that worked at the, I can't remember her name now. There was a girl that worked at the Kennel with

me and she had gone to see The Sixth Sense because you have to go to Monroe to see the movie because we were in Ruston. She had gone to see The Sixth Sense. I would not leave to go see movies or go out and do anything. And she came back and she was like, Van, I can't tell you what happens in the movie. It'll ruin the whole fucking movie. And then I was like, just fucking tell me.

I'm not going to see it. And she looked at me. She was so upset. She went, Bruce Willis is dead. And I was like, oh, you fucking bullshit. How could that fucking be? I've seen the fucking trailer of the movie. So anyway, so I'm just saying that was my life,

deep in the bunker of pool. I got to say that's the weirdest thing that anyone's ever said on this pod. I had no idea. What made you give it up? I was like, I get hooked on fads like this hat, and then I'll just let it go. But I get deep, deep, deep.

Like I was going around to different pool halls trying to like test my metal and stuff. Getting fucked over. I was deep, deep into it. It's facts. If we took you out now, when was the last time you played? I play all the time. Oh, okay. Now I play all the time.

Okay. So you would just dominate all of us. Yeah. It would be a joke. Oh, I didn't mean against me. I meant like we would, you know, I would be like his manager. Yeah, it would be a job. Oh, I didn't mean against me. I meant like we would, you know, I would be like his manager.

Yeah, it would be a job. Oh, I see. Should we concoct an elaborate scheme for immediately after this recording in which you are at the center of

this scheme that we've devised. We'll have 24 hours to execute it before this podcast is published. That's a very good point. I'm happy to be the Rube.

Like I'll be your Woody Harrelson. We'll get something going here. I'm happy to do it. Joanna, 1999, who were you? What were you doing? Where were you living?

I was here in sunny California. It was half the year is my senior year of high school, half the year is my freshman year of college. So all the movies that came out before, let's say, October, I saw in the theater. I was there every week with my friends. That's what we did every single weekend is we would go on a Friday and see whatever was out. When I got to college, I kind of stopped going so that like from October on, it's like kind of a blank space because you're living a different life in the dorms, etc.

But the sixth sense, I saw the Friday with my friends. My sister was home from college with her friends. I took them on the Saturday and then I took my Friday with my friends. My sister was home from college with her friends. I took them on the Saturday. And then I took my parents on the Sunday. And it was just like this. Because spoiler culture was very different then. And you just had to like get them before word of mouth of what the plot of The Sixth Sense was. So I saw it three times opening weekend to be like, you have to go.

Go with me now. Ask me no questions. I will tell you nothing about it. But I don't want anyone to talk to you before you see this movie and to this day I definitely haven't seen any other movie three times in one weekend

Sixth Sense owns that crown so yeah the movie year in general was a don't spoil this for me kind of movie we'll talk about

a bunch of movies okay Rob what about you 1989 what were you doing this is the year I turned 10 years old very formative year for me movie wise honestly I saw a lot of movies,

but it's more kid-friendly fare. And in particular, Star Wars Episode I was the thing for me. My parents got me out of school early to see it opening day. Whoa. I went, and I think it came out in May. And over the course of that summer,

I saw it 10 times in theaters. That was like my project. Did you dress up? 10 times. Did not dress up. Okay. 10 times in theaters. Red flag about me no we're sharing listen 10 year olds what else are you gonna do this is the thing it's like stewart little well that's the funny thing about being 10 during this year is then i grow into an

age where every person in my middle school thinks they're an anarchist because of Fight Club. Like that is a... Same. Not an ideal generation to grow into. In 1999, I was reminded of this while re-watching a movie with my wife this weekend. 1999 is the year I started dating my now wife. And we were seniors in high school. And we put on the film South Park colon bigger, longer, and uncut. Perhaps you've seen it five-star masterpiece uh and she said I remember being nuzzled with you on our friend Sarah's couch in the fall when we had just started dating watching this movie when it had come to home video

and she said I felt like this is it this is exactly what I want my life to be. What the fuck is happening? And I was like, that's incredible. Like that will live with. What did you say? I never thought of that moment again. And then I. Were you like Cartman is the funniest person I've ever seen?

It was because, I mean, it was because, you know, if you were 15 or 14 when South Park premiered, it was not unlike The Phantom Menace. And she saw Satan and Saddam and was like, that's us. We locked in. Truly. So the movie year for me was not unlike a lot of you guys.

I saw a ton of the movies that were coming out. It was an extraordinary time. There's a variety of reasons why it was such an extraordinary time. But I relate to what you're saying, Joanna, which is that I was right at the end. I went to college in the fall of 2000. And so I was right at the end. I went to college in the fall of 2000. And then so I was right at the end of seeing every movie every weekend.

And now just, you know, eventually pivoting to watching every Kevin Smith movie on DVD over and over again in my dorm room. But it's an exceptional movie year. And I don't totally know why that is because it's working. If you look at the top 20 box office performers

and you look at the Academy Awards, which are the two kind of polarities we examine as we do a draft, they're both kind of bad. You know, there's not a ton of great blockbusters. There's some classics, you know. There is The Sixth Sense and there is The Matrix. But there's also The General's Daughter and a lot of forgettable stuff there.

And then the Oscars. Quite bad. Very. I wonder if any Oscar winner in the core categories will even go drafted amongst our eventual 42 picks. Come on. I don't know. We are selecting 42 films. Of the top eight winners.

The top eight winners. So if you go picture, director, the four acting categories and the two screenplay categories. When you look back at the list, I don't know.

I wouldn't be stunned if they were overlooked. It's not great. There's some good below the line stuff and notably, this is pre-animated feature and this is a great year

for animated movies. So maybe a good winner would have been in that lot. But yeah, I'm not taking American Beauty. I wish all of you the best if you would like to.

It's a fantastic movie. Fantastic movie. American Beauty? I watched it. I was so mad. It's so bad. You know, I don't,

what the fuck? I love that movie. What's your favorite part? I think you'll have the opportunity to- It's like we're burning grass here. Yeah, okay.

This is content. Yeah. So American Beauty, bad movie now. Save it for when you pick it. It's like we're burning grass. Okay, this is content. Yeah. So American Beauty Bat Movie now. Save it for when you pick it. So let's do number one pick.

I'm just telling you I'm not going to pick it. I mean, you also say that now and then you don't know what's going to happen at Pickford. You don't know.

If that's you. I do. Because some things could, I mean, I guess you do, but some things could break in terms of there are certain categories

with only so many movies, right? And so, especially if people take those movies in other categories, then you might be up against the wall. There is not a force on earth that will make me pick that movie. Scarcity is always an issue, but this year in particular, even though there are so many great films, there are a couple of categories that you got to attack aggressively. Any thoughts on why 99 was the way that it was i just think it has a lot of magic i think you alluded to the part about the spoilers or the spoiler proof movies or the movies that like you basically had

to go see to not get have them ruined slash also be part of like any kind of conversation but even things that are pretty standard, really well done thrillers or dramas have this aura to them still. Obviously, Talented Mr. Ripley is an example of something that I've been thinking about a lot because Ripley's on Netflix. But just to watch those guys

in full flight just being beautiful and perfect in that movie, I feel like that runs through a lot of the best movies of this year. I don't want to like rattle off a bunch and then give away, but like, it's just, it's got a kind of like the fact that people who were 10 and people who

were 20 during that year are just like, this is such a totemic year for me is, is really saying something. It's also the confluence of the careers. You still have a lot of the legacy stars that were around in the 80s and the 90s

who are still in the twilight of their creative zenith, but they're still on the tail end of it, right? Some of those people are just reinventing. And then you have all of these new stars,

new voices that are popping up. Like, it's a reinvention year. Not a reinvention year. It's like a, a second win year of Keanu Reeves, who you'd always known, but like,

he's here again. And then other people, and then, you know, Kevin Smith is in his bag doing something different. And then like,

what you said about the talented Mr. Ripley, every time I see that movie, because I watch that movie a lot. It's one of my favorite movies. Every time I see that movie, I think, wow movie a lot. It's one of my favorite movies. Every time I see that movie, I think, wow, look how in their shit everyone is.

Like everybody is perfectly cast. Philip Seymour Hoffman, Damon, Jude Law, everyone's right there. And that has to do a lot with where people are at their careers at the time. And it just doesn't happen

all that often. I think also when you look at the box office, like we look at Phantom Menace at the top of the box office but and toy story 2 is there but there isn't a lot of as someone talks about franchising for a living this is the very end before we really start hitting the franchise taking over spider-man starts soon after lord of the rings comes out blah blah and then we are in our franchise trilogy um era You know, the Matrix is on there, but like we didn't know the Matrix was going to be what it became, et cetera.

And so that, you know, you have something like The Mummy or something, you know, where it just feels like so special and of its time. And yes, there were sequels, but let's just not talk about the Scorpion King. And let's just think about

how this felt like distinct storytelling. Again, I love a franchise. Mallory and I talk about them a lot. It's the period before the maze run is what we kind of casually refer to it as. Yeah, pre-Scorch trials. We were prepping for the trials. That really changed all of us, I think. It's also, it's like we had the internet, but you're still almost, it's like the cusp, right?

Yeah. So, and then like The Matrix like taught us about the internet. We were like, hmm, that seems interesting, but also maybe bad, but good. Blair Witch also a huge part of, like, how the internet relates to movie going. Dial-up. How long did it take you to download all that porn? I was waiting for it. You looked up at me, and I was like, is he going to ask me something sincere?

Did you guys used to sit and, like, download the movie trailers from, you know? I would get clips. I would always try to get, I remember very vividly trailers from, you know? I would get clips. I would always try to get, I remember very vividly trying to download short clips. You would get clips? Or some trailers of Reservoir Dogs. Very vividly, I remember. The Tarantino movies, I remember there being like forums where you could get clips of the movies. And I was like, isn't it so cool that I have it on my computer and not on a VHS tape?

That's the other thing is like, basically this is the dawn of DVD. It's right around 97, 98, 99. I guess I probably got started getting DVDs in 1999, but home entertainment was just a huge part of it. You said you saw most of these movies from blockbuster rentals. I'm sure that's true for me too.

I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. Not a Hollywood video family. No, the blockbuster was right down the street. Yeah, and Elton John went there sometimes. Damn.

Yeah, it was near his home in Atlanta. So you needed to go see Elton while you were running a movie. If you had the power, wealth, and success of Elton John, do you think you would still go to the video store or would you have someone do it for you? Well, it was combined with the Tower Records. So he would hang out at the record store. There was a Blockbuster Tower?

Or maybe they were right next to each other in the strip mall but no i'm saying it in awe like a combination i do think it was like a free-flowing exchange of ideas because you could like spend a lot of time listening to the records and then go rent whatever how did that shared real estate impact the snack allotment at blockbuster that That was really crucial, like making sure there's still room for funding at the register. It was very, very large. I mean, it's Atlanta. You know, everything is suburban.

Can I ask you a quick question? Mal has notes even about who you were in 1999. Did you need a reminder of who you were? I don't remember what grade I was in. I don't want to have to do math. I've never even seen this software before These are the Podcasts that we covered on Rewatchables 99

You guys remember we had a whole podcast We did You know how many podcasts were a part of last year's You did all of that work for this pod This is just a podcast This is just a grid So you're just going to be writing everyone's picks I do have my rankings on another tab that you are not allowed to see.

Bill did this. When he drafted, he spent a lot of time just quietly making his own record of what everyone drafted and it was a little intense. I don't think that with the handheld mic and no computers, I will actually be able to update this. So it's really just here as like a comfort blanket. For the listeners at home, virtually every Ringer podcast you listen to,

the podcaster has their laptop open in front of them with notes and the ability to consult via the internet. We're doing things a little bit differently here today, in part because we're on video. Van, you've prepared nothing. Of course, this will come out as the ready. Yeah, no. All vibes.

You know we're drafting 42 movies. You know what the funny thing is, though? It's like, I'm just going to feel my way through this. I was around, man. I was fucking smelling the lilacs. No, you weren't. You were in a pool. You were leaving for the Matrix.

You had chalk stains on all your shirts. What does one wear to be an intramural? Literally that outfit. Well, it wasn't this outfit. We didn't have dry fit like that in the 90s. I was wearing a lot of white tees. And the chalk from the pool was getting all over of white tees and the chalk from the pool was getting all over my white tees.

And my mom started to get, like, she was concerned like when I would come home. She's like, what's this blue stuff all, she thought it was some kind of drug or something.

But I was chalking up and then getting it all over my tees. You know what I mean? I don't really think that's what it sounds like when you chalk up. Yes, it does. That's what it is.

And then I had a break cue. It is a little squeaky. And I had a Mayuchi cue. I saved up 350 bucks. It was all the money in the world to me to buy a special cue. Two parts. Do you have a case? Yep.

Yeah. Yeah, you did. I just can't believe any of this. There's like a 30% chance that this is completely. I swear to God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's all facts. And you knew Dickie from Princeton. We get it. Like, I understand what you're doing. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. It's facts, it's all facts. And you knew Dickie from Princeton. We get it.

I understand what you're doing. I'm telling you, it's facts. It's all facts. There are people that are listening to this that right now, they're going, yeah, man, it was crazy. Because I would like, we'd go somewhere and play it, I'd be like, yo, man, bring my cue. And then we'd go, doing my thing. Power player. I feel like we should veer

back to the draft a little bit. Sorry, I apologize. I think I think going with your heart is maybe not a bad strategy I agree is it a draft

yeah because you can prepare like Mallory did I didn't really it's a grid to fill out the picks how are we supposed to remember what movies you said that you have

I see the rinker tab if you don't think I'm going to be peeking no no no Rob and I have a gentleman's agreement that we're not looking at each other's screen absolutely not

I'm not looking at your screen here's the other thing I'm just not gonna lie today I'm not gonna pretend you're not gonna

lie so you won't say you saw Seabiscuit for example I saw Seabiscuit that does clearly indicate that you have lied in drafts

past does it yes about seeing Seabiscuit that was I've seen Seabiscuit I've seen I've gone to

Garden State Park and watched what Seabiscuit is about I don't know what happens in Seabiscuit what happens in Seabiscuit Seabiscuit I've gone to Garden State Park and watched War Horse I don't know what Seabiscuit is about I don't know what happens in Seabiscuit Seabiscuit wins wins what?

World War II oh was War Horse the sequel to Seabiscuit? Seabiscuit 2 colon War Horse it's not it's not a written law

that you need to have seen the movie that you're drafting this will test the bounds in some ways because we've never drafted so many movies. I'm looking you in the eye and there's a bunch

of movies that I could draft that I will not because I did not like them. I'm drafting the movies that I liked. I'm also going hard only. And I am curious. I was going to ask if you had a prediction if perhaps counterintuitively a year this rich and steeped in cinematic history,

maybe there's actually more chaos and less consensus at the top because we have so many picks. Perhaps everyone is just going to come in and be like, this is what I have a fond memory of. I'm nostalgic about thing X. I think everybody wants.

I think there's a solid five at the top that's going to be dicey. A draft order is very important. We could have a consensus top two rounds. We could have chaos by pick three. I tend to agree with Joanna that there are five films that are incredibly important because they have some flexibility in key

categories that you're going to need after that i do think for the most part it'll be the personal free-for-all that you're describing okay um but that's the best thing one of the great things about this year and in this era of movies which we all love is that they just made so many of them in fact when i was making the long list i got a couple of movies wrong which our friend rob identified to me having the release dates wrong and then last night i got notes from not one but two members of the house of r about a one movie in particular that was missing that they both clocked oh wow from my long list which i thought was hilarious and i and i you'll never you would never guess if I gave you guys an hour what movie they both noticed I was missing.

I love this. I won't. Maybe I'll acknowledge it at the end. Yeah. If it goes undrafted. If I draft it. It might get drafted. Okay.

If this is the first time you're listening to a big picture draft, we draft from six categories. We do it snake style. We have a random draft order which our producer bobby wagner will share with us imminently the six categories in this draft i'm just going to read them off for everyone listening at home are drama action thriller or horror comedy blockbuster and this year the threshold is 100 million and there are 21 films that are eligible 100 million domestic 100 million domestic thank you os films that are eligible. 100 million domestic. 100 million domestic. Thank you. Oscar nominee and our sixth and final category is

Wild Card. So action, thriller, horror. He's writing with one thumb. Thank you for participating today, Van. Yeah, I'm here with you guys. Okay, cool. Comedy. Oscar. Films that feature all black cast.

Yeah, that's your wild card category yeah what would be better as a miniseries Van what happens if I draft the wood first you know what happens you know the place

you know how much you already mean to us it just goes to the next fucking level what does Chris mean to the black community a lot let's hear about it

it's like we'll be on we'll be on like a pod, and they'll be like, oh, yo, who's the guy to do the voice at the end where he acting like he the dude? I'm like, that's Chris. I fuck with him, bro. I fuck with him.

He's like- This is huge for you. And then I say, you know what? You're from Philly. And they get it. It's the DNA of Meek Mill running through you. You have such derision looking. He's from Philly.

Facts. Is that the ratings? I just hate Philly so much. I mean, I can't really read that. Not a great town. Let's go to our producer, Bobby Wagner. Bob, you need to set a random draft order for us. Are you prepared to do that?

So nice to see all of you gathered in the same room. So lovely. You all look like having so much fun. And that was a compliment so that everybody will act very normal about this draft order when I share it. How are you? Going first is Amanda Dobbins. No, no, no, no. Wow.

He just said you're going first. Oh, good. You just started. Whoa, whoa. That's so hilarious. You just started deriding what he was going to do. I'd like him to make the process transparent to everyone watching and listening at home.

I feel like we've swapped personalities today. I agree. Also, I think number one is a mixed bag to be honest. It's never been a mixed bag in the history of the draft. Okay, boy.

You do have to wait a long time. The process was I went to random.org which uses atmospheric noise to randomize a list that you put in there. I did clear my cookies in advance

as Amanda has requested on multiple occasions. There we go. Turned out she is going first. Okay. Going second is Rob Mahoney. Okay. Sweet.

Van Lathan will be going third, followed by Sean, Joanna, Mal, and Chris. Wow. The turn Chris on the turn. Wow.

Okay. There's a significant silence. Okay. What we need to do is vamp This is what we do I'm just mourning that top part Do you want to read the Order out one more time or do you want me to go? The order is Amanda

Rob Van Me, Sean Joanna, Mallory, and Chris. So you're getting number five, Joanna. Okay. I was told there'd be no math, but okay. You're still in your top five, Ara.

So everyone's got to pick six movies. It's going to seem like all fun and games until basically we get to the turn. And then we're going to get to the turn and everybody's going to be like, why don't I have my movie that I want? yeah which is part of the fun part of the chaos i would encourage people if a movie is taken from them that they care about to scream about it to make them to make a big fuss um you want all seven of us to scream at once is that is that good for the audio well six because one person will get with we'll sit in silence i'm so interested to know what you're gonna pick yeah well no i feel like it's interesting

i i think you do too it's interesting for me going first because i think that there's a very We'll sit in silence. We'll be getting what they want. I'm so interested to know what you're going to pick. Yeah, well, no. I feel like I know. I think you do, too. It's interesting for me going first, because I think that there's a very obvious number one pick for six people in this draft. And then there's my number one pick. And so I'm going to do it. In Oscar nominee, I will be taking The Talented Mr. Ripley. Wow. Yeah.

That's my number one, too. Yeah. I agree with you. And, you know, that leaves Van's movie for Van. And I'm very excited for him to speak on that journey. This is... But what if Rob gets it? Well, then that's between Rob and Van.

And I'm just going to talk about 1999's The Talented Mr. Ripley, directed by Anthony Minghella, which has been back in the news recently, thanks to Netflix's Ripley, which is wonderful and very beautiful. And I think Andrew Scott might be one of the world's greatest living actors. Like, it's pretty amazing. But my heart is far too indebted to the original talented Mr. Ripley. The colors, young Jude Law, young Gwyneth, young Matt Damon, young Cate Blanchett, young-ish Philip Seymour Hoffman.

I mean, this was just one of these movies that I saw at a pretty young and impressionable age, and it, like, kind of unlocked a world, I mean, I guess of just murder, you know, and not trusting anyone. But also beautiful people in Italy. Who do you most relate to? Which character in that film? James Rephorn's character? Yeah.

A hard Gwyneth, you know? Yeah. Who wouldn't want to be Gwyneth, you know? Yeah. Who wouldn't want to be Gwyneth? Talented Mr. Ripley, I think, is among those five. Yes. That you were referring to. Yeah, 100%. And that's the other thing is that I knew that if I didn't take it now, there was no chance I was going to be there.

And I would be really upset. Do you guys remember the scene where Tom, Matt Damon, is dancing to the song? Yeah. And then Jude Law comes in that is the funniest fucking thing that's ever happened in a movie man

I watch it all the time what a great fucking movie of whites Jude Law as Dickie Greenleaf I think is one of the most like important casting moves

that has ever happened and the scene where he is like tan and golden and oiled on the beach and then Matt Damon a very handsome man shows up

looking a little pasty in his like lime green trunks and just looking so like wrong and you had to cast Jude Law to make Matt Damon again a very handsome man

look just like clumsy and awkward and wrong and they did it they crushed it how come you chose the oiled beach scene and not the scene

where Jude Law stands up completely nude from a bathtub? I left that for you, my friend. That's a very important moment. Just bros being dudes taking baths.

Yeah. Movie history. A moment I cherish. When's the last time you took a bath? Me? Yeah. I love a bath.

Years ago. Yeah. I don't. You don't have a bath in your own filth. I take a bath. I do shower after because I don't consider

baths to be like a source of hygiene and cleanliness. It's just relaxation and I put a little Bluetooth speaker next shower after because I don't consider baths to be like a source of hygiene and cleanliness, just relaxation. And I put a little Bluetooth speaker next to me. She listens to the watch. And I listen to the watch.

Yes, I do. Interesting. We all know this about you. You really set a scene. Let's get into Talents and Mr. Ripley's story. This is an interesting pick for you though, Amanda,

because part of my process preparing for this draft, I figured the big picture has to have an episode about the movies of 1999. And sure enough, Sean, Amanda, Chris, you guys talked about it in 2019. And you picked your five favorite movies from this year.

Wait, have you been preparing for this podcast since then? Because you did mention in the group chat, we all clocked it. You implied about a week ago that you had a Google Doc going that was several weeks old. Yes. Several weeks. And now we're realizing maybe years old at that point. And also you listened far enough. I did. week ago that you had a google doc going that was several weeks old yes several weeks and now we're realizing maybe years and also you listened far enough i did in a big pic and a different episode pictures talented mr to hear the the beat that i threw out for you and you took it and i respect it you did comb your hair a little differently today interesting yeah i mean my main takeaway apparently is not that I can trust those rankings,

but the three of you have become absolute maniacs. Like in 2019, you were very politely discussing your favorite movies. Well, we would also do something back then on those episodes that we don't do anymore, which is like, if I knew Amanda was definitely going to take The Talented Mr. Ripley and put it on her list,

I probably wouldn't put it on my list so that we could just talk about more movies and would not pursue the conflict of, I'm doing it. No, I'm doing it or whatever we would get into now. So I don't know how- You did this recently as two weeks ago. Yeah, we're kind. When it's just you and me making lists.

I gave you Michael Clayton. You know, that's fine. Directorial debuts. They did this for 2007 as well. I don't remember that. Oh, I don't remember if they did this for 2007 as well I don't remember that oh I don't remember if we did it for 2007 oh okay no no no

this was for our directorial debuts you're right if it is me it was very sweet but that was that was the three of us right

that 1999 episode that you're referring to and it was still it was pre-COVID it was early days there is pre-COVID and there's post-COVID of the big picture

definitely there's pre-Rango energy for sure I don't think this is going to change Rob's game in any way for me to tell you that he has been

mainlining 1999 movies this is true for weeks ever since you asked us to do this I just I do my own I respect that

you know the Vulture Cinema Grid game that I sent to you yeah Cinematrix I play every day Rob. I play every day. Rob and I play every day. And Rob's been just like throwing out the 99 Stone Cold classics for weeks now.

So do you feel like something fell into your lap here at two? Do you feel torn at all? I mean, I feel great about the order. Because, yeah, if it had broken any other direction but Amanda, I would not be in a position to right now. I will take the Matrix and Blockbuster. I would not be in a position to right now I will take The Matrix and Blockbuster. Obviously.

I thought that was a lock. It's like it had to be the Well, I'm full of surprises. Now I get to draft with my heart. Well, in particular for Blockbuster which is a complicated

category in 1999 I wanted to get it off the board as quickly as possible. The Matrix is as good as it gets. One of the best action movies ever made in a great

action movie year. And also like I mean the stunt work is great. The choreography is amazing. There's so many memorable scenes, and it's so watchable. It's also sneaky. It's an exposition masterpiece in The Matrix. The dojo scene between Keanu and Lawrence Fishburne,

that's just them explaining how the world works, and it's one of the most watchable things of 1989. So I feel great about getting The Matrix this early. I had no clue what the movie was about when I went to go see it. Like, zero clue. I really didn't know what it was about. It was a Siskel and Ebert deal

where Siskel and Ebert were like, ah, it's just a good movie. It's just like a good movie. That was the whole review? Well, I mean, they were talking about, no, seriously, they were talking about the fact that the movie had some staying power at the box office. And it came back down to, it's just a good film that's very gripping.

And when I went to see it, I was blown away by the depth, the conceptual depth of the movie and the technical execution of it. And I really don't think that I had ever felt that way in a movie before. And I don't think I felt that way since. Like just the depth of the concepts in the movie and what they were talking about. And just the newness of the execution of everything was mind blowing. Yeah, I rewatched it over the weekend and was similarly floored by it. It's our superhero story. It's like our Superman.

Like you watch it and you're like, I think I can fly. Yeah, that's a great way of by it. It's our superhero story. It's like our Superman. You watch it and you're like, I think I can fly. That's a great way of describing it. I think I was surprised revisiting it what a mashup of different genres it was. I think in our heads we're like, this is the movie where Neo does Kung Fu, but that's not really what...

The first 40 minutes are not that at all. It's just a noir movie. It's more like Bound in the first 40 minutes or so. Part of why it was the clear number one pick today because it's like a William Gibson book. It's just a noir movie. It's more like Bound in the first four years or so. And then there's an entire... Part of why it was the clear number one pick today because it's such a dynamo in every category

but I love your pick. Thank you. I love it. I'm happy. Everyone's happy. She's living her truth. Do you like the Matrix? Yeah, of course.

I really would have picked Ripley first. I promise. I think that's completely defensible and down. It's a great movie. I thought there were two movies that might go on.

One of them remains on the board but I thought Matrix seemed as close to a lock on. One of them remains on the board. But I thought Matrix seemed as close to a lock maybe as we had. But I like the idea of Ripley at one. I think there's at least one more that I think very reasonably could have gone number one. I wonder if Van will take it right now. We'll see. I saw on your phone.

Do you know what category? Didn't he just say we're not going to be looking at other people's films? He flashed it in front of me. What am I supposed to say? I was taking it in the thriller one Whatever That's a good strategy Fight Club is coming off the board Because it's fantastic

Would have been my number one Fight fucking club Tyler Durden The weirdness The depth The Brad Pitt tyler durden the weirdness the depth the brad pitt at the peak of his powers strong beautiful sinister a sticky movie sticky like you put your hands on it and when you pull away there's residue sticky film sticks with you yeah yeah yeah the soap the burning the whole nine just weirdo shit happening yeah ed norton playing the straight man to a completely berserk

uh brad pitt helena dorner thing i love the movie what's the movie about tell us what it's about to me yeah oh well i think the movie is about two things what it's about. To me? Yeah. Well, I think the movie is about two things. Obviously, it's about, I don't know, late stage capitalism and how that affects the journey of life. But it's also about confronting your delusions and who you are when you confront your delusions. The moment where you realize,

I'm fucking crazy. I'm out here. I've been warped. Do you embrace it or do you, you know, chase it off? And like, that's a central question with everyone when you realize you're starting to bend and turn to something. And sometimes you don't see it coming. And how that can affect other people. How your warped view of reality can set the template

for how other people view reality and beat each other up and stuff. I just love it. Meatloaf was in that bitch. He had tits the whole night. I love the movie. Yeah, Bob. Yeah, it's my favorite movie of 1999.

Shut up, Chris. I felt for sure if you two had the top pick, you'd take Fight Club. I would have taken The Matrix, but this Fight Club is my favorite movie of the year. I think it was on that pod. I believe so, yeah. Is Fight Club better I would have taken The Matrix, but this Fight Club is my favorite movie of the year. I think it was on that pod.

I believe so, yeah. Is Fight Club better than The Matrix? It's a great movie year, guys. I think it just speaks... I think if you were 16 when Fight Club came out, it obviously was

incredibly influential on an entire generation of kids who were like, I'm a bad person, but at least I know I am. You know, like, that's sort of what the movie is about. Like, I'm at bad person, but at least I know I am. You know, like that's sort of what the movie is about.

Like I'm at least self-aware about my own flaws. Changed my relationship to Ikea. Did it? Definitively. Meaning you're more pro or anti now?

Anti. You're anti. Yeah. Okay. So they're not sponsoring the watch. It's also just like a feat of movie making.

Like it's just, it doesn't look or feel like any other movie huge bomb at the time not a successful film not eligible in the box office category people

did not go to see it that's why we should give Ferrari a chance exactly you think Ferrari is this generation's

fight club that's an interesting take Ferrari was a fucking abomination abomination hated Ferrari we can negotiate this another time.

I'm up. I have a pick. I did want Fight Club. I was thinking about Fight Club. But I have a really good backup in a category that I think is a bit thin for my taste. That category is Blockbuster.

In Blockbuster, I'll take M. Night Shyamalan's The Sixth Sense, which is also a masterpiece, an incredible film. I recently recounted on this pod the trailer that I saw at CinemaCon for the new M. Night Shyamalan film called Trap coming out in August. And I was locked in when I saw the trailer. And I've been, frankly, kind of pretty locked in to most of M. Night Shyamalan's movies.

But this one also actually was spoiled for me in the same way it was spoiled for you it was spoiled for me by a correspondent on the daily show who went on the daily show like a week after the movie came out and gave away the bruce willis twist and i remember there being like an angry letter writing campaign to this fellow yeah i mean it certainly i felt connected to the thoughts. Dear Rob Riggle. God damn it. This predated Rob Riggle, for sure. I guess it was, would it have been in the Kilbourne days? Who was the host in 99? Oh, man. No, Stewart was on. Stewart was on in 99?

Yeah. Then maybe it was Stewart. But, yeah, that was a tough one. And yet, I saw the movie, and I still was blown away by it. It's an interesting thing to see the movie when you know it. Yeah. It holds up really well. Yeah. Yeah. It's an interesting thing to see the movie when you know it. It holds up really well. It's very,

very rewatchable. I had known the twist for years and years and years and years and years when I watched

The Sixth Sense for the first time this weekend. Whoa! What? Did you like it? Because I don't like scary movies

as you all know. Oh my God, I keep forgetting that. And I was just like, I cannot go into this draft without having seen The Sixth Sense but like,

will I sleep tonight? Adam and I really strategized like time of day to watch it so I could watch something after that would be fresher in my mind. Here's the thing,

I was fine and it was dynamite. Yeah. It's very good. Was there a dumb scare that got you and was it little Marissa Cooper

vomiting? I think I had actually seen most of the like, you know, dude in the bedroom turns around and the back of his head is missing. Woman at the school, big school play,

you know, turns around and her, half her face is burnt off. I had like seen all of that over the years. It was a fascinating experience to take this movie and knowing every single thing about it. Still loved it.

Thought it was exceptional. Just great craft. You know, there was a reason why people were like, this is that ex-beal. So I was like, I need to be prepared

to draft this. It was such a pop cultural phenomenon. I mean, like, I see dead people was a thing that we all like whispered to each other.

So effectively, it was spoiled for like everyone. For everyone. You know, that's why I went three times over the weekend. Gotta knock it out.

Okay. Joanna, you're next. In Blockbuster, I only have one more like number one seed left. So I will be taking off the board

The Mummy. Banger? Interesting. 99 banger that has aged so well and become I was really nervous. My stomach dropped there

and then and then you're fine. Yeah. Yeah. Phantom Menace still on the board. Yeah, don't worry. That's waiting for you.

The Mummy, which was like that was a movie that I have such a visceral memory seeing the theater was so full opening night that we had to sit in like my friends it was like a big group of us had to sit in the second row off the side and we had the best time of our lives because we all thought it was going to be something we made fun of and it just turned out to be amazing and uh just like a fun fun like fine time at the movie theater um see it with the biggest crowd possible and then it has been a movie that has only grown in like cultural estimation since um people love this movie with with good cause i think like Brendan Fraser doesn't win his Oscar if he's not in The Mummy. The Mummy has been a very part of his legacy.

So a bisexual awakening for a lot of people. It's got archaeology. It's got... Rachel Weisz, right? Rachel Weisz has got... That's important. Crushing it.

My wife. John Hanna is really funny. Well, you don't have to. I'm glad we share that. She's elite. Yeah. Questionable cultural representation it's got it all. It's got everything you want in a 1999 to. I'm glad we share that. She's elite. Yeah. Questionable cultural representation it's got it all.

It's got everything you want in a 1999 movie. I do feel like there's a bit of a mid-generational divide with The Mummy where there is incredible popularity. I love this movie.

But I feel like for people and I'm curious of y'all's opinion of this. It's just kind of another movie for a lot of people. Another like action movie that came and went. I've never seen it.

Never seen it. No. This is a touchstone for me for sure. Oh, wow. I saw it in theaters and liked it a lot of people another like action movie that came and went i've never seen it never seen it no this is a touchstone for me for sure oh wow i saw it in theaters and liked it a lot um i think it's very good and i think i re-watched it before we talked about fraser in the in the oscars run um but i do think if there's a difference between seeing it when you're 16 or 17 or seeing it when you're like 10 or 11 yeah and because it's it's a it's a movie for kids you know i mean it's like it's a it's like it's a. Yeah. Absolutely. Because it's a movie for kids. You know, I mean,

it's a really, really good movie for kids. It's maybe like the best version of this kind of movie that you can make at the time. I have a different experience with it. It felt like for some reason that everybody loved it and it was the biggest,

hugest thing for some reason. Yeah, it felt like a sensation. It was a huge hit. Yeah. But a sensation in the year of Blair Witch and The Sixth Sense, like those were huge in different ways. But it's a sensation. It was a huge hit. Yeah. But a sensation in the year of Blair Witch and The Sixth Sense. Those were huge

in different ways. But a sensation that's like, I think it's taken over The Princess Bride as that movie that everyone agrees is great. That's a great comparison.

Yeah. It was number eight that year at the box office. I guess I'm still Princess Bride generation. Yeah. That's sad. Me too, mostly.

But like, you know. So right now, four of the top eight movies at the box office have already been taken the sixth sense was which was number two at 293 the matrix which was at 171 and oh maybe just sorry maybe just three and the mummy at 155 okay mal it's your turn all right i pick and then chris goes on the turn and picks twice and then it's back to me that's correct and so i'm i'm considering two things i'm putting some stock in a decade of knowing chris ryan in terms of the choice i'm making but it would be and what might come back to me then and be available in the next uh the

next pick but this would be the pick that i i would take regardless i despite the category scarcity of blockbuster which would have been my inclination in the first round, I think you've all done beautifully. I will be selecting a comedy. And I will be selecting, proudly and with joy in my heart, one of the patron saint films of The Ringer, the company that we all work for, Office

Space. Okay, I was really scared there for a second. I had no idea where you were going. I had no idea where you were going. I had no idea what you were talking about. I can see your spreadsheet, and it's like a lot of... Office Space is a wild pick, and I love that for you. That's your first pick.

But it's a top-tier cinematic Joanna, by the way. Comedy. No. Phantom Menace is there. You're welcome to take it if you'd like. You're really counting on me. Go ahead and talk about Office Space. I thought you were going to be like, the patron saint, she's all that. I would be delighted if I had the opportunities

to select that film later in the draft. We'll see what the next, I don't know, five to seven hours of this experience. We have to move a little bit more quickly. We haven't finished one yet. You know, I'll just say it's been a while since I have been invited to participate in a Big Pick movie draft. And I wouldn't say I've been invited to participate in a Big Pic movie draft

and I wouldn't say I've been missing it, Bob. No, I have been missing it terribly. It's so great to be here with you all today. Naga, Naga, not going to work here anymore. I love you all. Yeah, you know, just I've been like Milton sitting there thinking about my staplers, waiting for the callback and here it is today. You do have Milton energy.

Yeah, I do sometimes remark to you all that I used to have a window view and I could see the squirrels and they were merry, but not anymore. You know, not anymore. I'm thrilled with this pick. I think this is a great film. It's a beloved film. And I think it hits some of those like trends and patterns you were noting earlier of the year, where like you have your big blockbuster movies, you have your Oscar winners, and then you kind of have the films that worked their way into the hearts of a generation and genuinely feel like they stood the test of time. They're movies that people love rewatching. They're movies that almost like proto memes, right? They became like visual and quote shorthand for just like your friend groups. And that has carried then into from adolescence into adulthood. And

it feels like a bridge across your life. And that's beautiful. I have a related pocket theory about this movie because i was a massive my wife and i were massive fans of this movie as well but we were fans of it at 16 and 17 before we'd ever had a job in which we could identify with the struggles of the characters and i think in a way it like kind of warded some people from a generation off of pursuing jobs like this or of landing in jobs like this because they so perfectly nail a few aspects of when you have a job at an inatech that having an like a raised consciousness about it and also maybe observing our parents being miserable in some of their jobs uh yeah osmosis

of the whole thing yeah that it like and you know obviously it was not a huge box office hit but it is like a mega dv. Like everybody owned this DVD and watched it over and over and over again, at least where I grew up. So it's a good pick. It's actually like, it is one of the signature movies of this year, but you never would have said that on January 1st, 2000.

You know? Right. But in 2024, on these green couches, with six of my closest friends and colleagues. It's the number one pick. I really need you to be you and not pick the thing. I want it coming back to me. You don't have to worry about that.

Should I go? You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, you're up, Chris, with the final pick of the first round. For Blockbuster. Are you about to fuck me here? I'm going to take Blur Witch Project. Of course you can.

Come on. Blur Witch. Talked about this before. I think I've drafted this like three times in drafts somehow. It is one of the most singular movie-going experiences I've ever had in my life.

Made me question my own reality. Definitely have never been to the woods around Maryland because of this. Great state. Some people didn't work in an office, you wouldn't go to the woods. Yeah, just like an incredible shot from outside of Hollywood that like, it didn't I don't know if it changed Hollywood, but it was like one of those things where you're just like an incredible shot from outside of hollywood that like it didn't i

don't know if it changed hollywood but it was like one of those things where you're just like man anything can happen when you walk into the movie theater oh i mean it kicked off an era of yeah viral marketing footage viral marketing yeah like the directors and the stars did not necessarily go on to like you know make a huge imprint uh but this this movie did and so pretty easy blockbuster pick for me here. This next one's a lot tougher. I guess I have to go with category scarcity even though I'm

tempted by some other stuff. But for Oscar, I will do The Insider. I have a good one. I suspected you would pick this. This movie is directed by Michael Mann and it's about cigarettes.

True CR core right here. What is his conclusion about cigarettes? You know, and it's about cigarettes. True CR core right here. What is its conclusion about cigarettes? You know, the jury's still out. What do you think about the recently announced The Insider 2

colon Zin time? That's right. This movie fucking rocks. Every once in a while I'll watch the Bruce McGill courtroom scene.

Wipe that smoke off your face! And incredible. We were talking about this sort of meeting point of several generations of acting and directing talent. And this is certainly one of them

where you've got Pacino in his late 90s renaissance, but Russell Crowe slingshotting into Best Movie Star Alive for five years. And doing it in this very unconventional, like puts on all this weight,

ages up. Some people may watch this now and be like, that looks very fake, but at the moment, it just seemed incredible. So yeah, I'm pretty happy with those two.

Speaking of Ferrari, there's a scene in which Russell Crowe is explaining to his daughter how lungs work that is like copy-paste. Yeah. In a way that I appreciate the lineage.

He has themes. He does have some themes. Themes that he returns to. This is the one 1999 movie that I hadn't seen that I felt like I had to see because it was like ringer core and

Did you like it? Yeah, I loved it. It kicks ass. Christopher Plummer, come on. Such a great movie. Blair Witch Project, I've never been more disappointed in a movie theater.

In a movie theater? Yeah. Really? Why? Because Had the hype surged already before you saw it? surged that i'm like oh my god this is going to be the scariest thing i've ever seen before in my life it's going to be crazy and the final scene is actually very scary incredibly the face in the wall the face of the wall i was like shit i think well Other than that, it was

like he was lost in the woods. Yeah. Is the scariest thing to me. I mean, the end is incredible, but like,

if you've ever been in that situation, this is a pre-GPS world like where you're like out there in the woods and you're just like, we've gone by this tree three times.

Like that is so terrifying. Do you remember how long it had been out when you saw it? Because that was a factor. Probably been a while. I think I i think i saw it opening yeah yeah i didn't see it opening opening it was like at my local multiplex it was pandemonium it was a packed house and people were screaming at the top of their lungs that people were going nuts and they were going crazy and

all that stuff and we're still at the age where we go, oh my God, people are going insane because they saw this movie. Let's go see it. So it was the whole thing and then I think by the time I saw it, they might have been on the MTV Movie Awards. Yeah, because like if you,

yeah, when you first walked out of that movie theater, I was like, did I just watch those people die? Right. Like in real life. Once Ben Stiller has spoofed it on the MTV Movie Awards,

it's too late. It's over. Yeah, but I saw, you and I were, I saw it at home afterwards it's over yeah but I saw you and I were I saw it at home afterwards and that would have been after the promo

and I was I was scared out of my mind like granted I was like small but this was my insider or my sixth sense I hadn't seen this movie

until basically this month and if you were on the fence about watching it it kicks ass at home it's so good it's so scary put your phone down it is a great experience

don't listen to anything Van is saying on this podcast this is my most like visceral memory literally of seeing a 99 movie because I saw it someone gave me

a white Sobe before don't do this before watching the shaky cam of Blair Witch Sobe's were dynamite

the green tea Sobe and then we went to the Chili's after and I got sick in the Chili's bathroom because of the shaky cam from Blair Witch you got sick in the Chili's bathroom oh my god because of the shaky cam you got sick in the Chili's bathroom

because of the shaky cam of the white Sobi and the shaky cam Blair Witch the title of your memoir sick in the Chili's bathroom what flavor was the white Sobi? it was like coconut I'm not familiar with this

you never had a Sobi? it's so gross did you ever work at a mall? that put me off Sobi forever Sobi was disgusting it was disgusting they would theybe? it's so gross did you ever work in a mall food court? that put me off Sobe forever Sobe was disgusting it was disgusting they would they were like

it's healthy but it was not great stuff you're up Mallory you're up I I'm honestly just absolutely thrilled

to know that this is another classic some no some things in life you can count on right not a lot the boredom of pod racing.

The world is full of disappointment and letdowns and the kinds of surprises that make you question, like, can you ever know another person? But every so often you have an experience like this where Chris Ryan has the chance in a thin, thin, thin category to take Toy Story 2 and doesn't because he hates animation and it makes it back to you. Rod, let the wind

blow your eyes! I'm thrilled to be taking Toy Story 2 and Blockbuster. This is a genuine sensation. I can't even remember if this was before we started potting out in the bullpen earlier or during the preamble of the actual pod. We did do one hour of pod before we started recording. When we talked about

the fact that animated feature was not a part of the Oscars. I think that is something that has impacted maybe the awards lore around Toy Story 2. But this is a Pixar behemoth, right? When you mentioned franchises earlier, here we are. I mean, Toy Story 2 comes out and you're like, will they miss? Ben's just reading the list of Oscar nominees for this year right now. No animated movies there.

Toy Story 2 did receive an Oscar nomination for Best Original Song, so it is in there. I could have taken it in that category, but I did not. No, no, this one is Sarah McLachlan. Oh, wow. And that song, I know Up is the devastation montage of choice for Pixar. Because she loved me. Because she loved me. Or when she loved me.

When she loved me. I was hoping it was going to be Arms of an Angel. Tearjerkers. Those are in for Pixar. Blockbuster is a really thin category. That's about Slinky Dog. Toy Story is a genuine box office behemoth. And still to this day, a beloved classic in a franchise from a studio that has had staying power and matters.

And, you know, I just still remember ending up at Al's Toy Barn and with the prospector and thinking not only about the initial awe and perspective shift that the first Toy Story gave you in 95, but then you go to Toy Story 2 and you think about people's ability

and sometimes the people are toys. But people's ability. I want you to listen to me, Chris, and give animation a chance. Amanda's head is about to explode. Like spontaneously combust. Like she's bleeding from the ice.

I'm thinking about how long it is until I pick a game. I'm trying to remember what happened in Toy Story 2. Right? How many moons

had passed since Woody and Buzz were sworn rivals? I think it's the weakest Toy Story. Yeah. I think so too. On other podcasts I've shared my Toy Story 2 is fine were sworn rivals I think it's the weakest Toy Story I think so too on other podcasts I've shared my Toy Story ranking

and I will not be doing so in the context of shaking this shit she knows it's the weakest Toy Story movie is it Toy Story people? pretty good it's good

well I I would say Grammar is the prospector that's true that's the introduction of Jessie right how many actors on Toy Story

do you think believe that Biden is actually president? Have we gotten Joan Cusack's take on it? Is this a John Ratzenberger burn? Who are we burning? I'm thrilled with the pick. Tim Allen. I had Toy Story at three in Blockbuster and I did not think landing the six pick

would not go anywhere. Blockbuster is getting thinner. So if you don't have your blockbuster great stuff we've had quite a few picks in that category uh joanna you're up next also getting quite thin i would say is the oscar category so i am taking off the board magnolia god damn it because it was not going to be there no if i didn't uh we were talking about this a little bit in our pre-pod, whatever. This is, I still own this VHS. It's a double VHS box set for Magnolia. Where's the cut?

Like, what is the intermission? Great question. I don't know, actually. That's a great question. Pre-Amy Man sing-along, I would think. Well, it's just been a while since I've loaded up the old VHS's but I have them as like a nostalgia factor but this is just like

a huge it's just a wonderful movie a huge cruise moment in the culture my favorite Philip Seymour Hoffman

performance ever my favorite Julianne Moore performance ever don't call me lady you know an incredible come in here

and then I and then i had my freshman year of college i had the probably like the nastiest worst breakup of my life the magnolia soundtrack or your breakup healing is exactly what you want you want amy man singing very sad songs uh and then super tramp is there. So yeah, Magnolia, classic. Incredible movie. Sean's doing the smile right now where he's like a little upset. You look like the Joker.

I had it at the top of like four different categories. What is more on brand than all seven of us coming together to cause you pain in this moment? Well, it happens, you know. Magnolia is a wonderful movie. More and more people are saying every day that it was misunderstood and it is getting its flowers and I'm just really happy about that.

It does suck we're never getting this cruise again. No, we are. Are we? We are. It's going to happen. I feel strongly. He's not locked in the mind powers? No.

He has to do it. He is going to, once he is physically atrophied enough, he's going to return. Once he stops killing himself for our amusement. Did they finish making the second Dead Reckoning? It's in production. So he could die on that

and we never get it. That's true. I guess that's in play. He could jump from, he could do the Red Bull like jump from the moon jump. I mean, you could die during this pod,

but we don't talk that way. Let's not talk that way about Tom Cruise. Yeah, he's magnificent in Magnolia. Boy, that was definitely going to, that was at the top

of my Oscar nominee at least. I considered picking that as well. You know, another movie that at the time, everybody was like, whoa, he reached way too far. That was too much. And he seems to be on a lot of cocaine. You know, that was the takeaway on that movie. I wonder, do young people like Magnolia?

How young? If you're 19, are you like, I'm a huge fan of this? Probably. It's a great time for it, to be honest. Magnolia is very of its time. Probably, but like, I think if you're 19, you're like, I'm a huge fan of this. Probably. It's a great time for it. I feel like Magnolia is very of its time. Probably, but I think if you're a completist,

you would watch it. Yeah. And if you're a real cinephile and you're voting and you're listening to this, you're like, yeah, Valley of Magnolia,

Joanna really made a great move there. Do you think it's, is it as good as Toy Story 2 though? The jury's still out Monster is a category guys The voters will decide

We're also winning From Magnolia 2 I didn't make the rules Alright I have a pick When someone's picking Big Daddy I got a ruling question And I'm not gonna be

Angry in either direction Yes You're not mad You're actually laughing? Don't put it in the newspaper Don't put it in the newspaper That I'm mad about This categorical concern.

Okay. Is Eyes Wide Shut action thriller horror or is it drama? Both. It's both. I have it in both. It's absolutely thriller.

It's definitely a drama. Are you going to stop him from taking it and it's definitely a drama? But it's definitely a thriller. Definitely both. Of course. Thrilling.

Certain scenes are thrilling. Yeah. I mean, it's a thriller. Definitely. Of course. Thrilling. Certain scenes are thrilling. Yeah. I mean, it's a thriller. Sidney Pollack's just wearing suspenders. That's thrilling to me. Fidelio? To me, that is cinema. No, it is.

In action thriller horror, I'll be taking eyes wide shut. Okay. One piano note going for like 20 minutes of the movie? I'm going to set the scene. In 1999, my summer job i worked at a company you seem to be white i'm scared right now she's in the crook of my arm the nuzzling word choice is gonna stay with you as well thank you think about me as a high school

romancer you know just why are you putting a mask on to make this pic so in in 1999 in the summer of 99 uh my friend ryan and i were eagerly anticipating this movie and we worked at the same job we worked at a place called advanced tabco which was like a factory warehouse for industrial tables chairs and sinks so in the morning we had to arrive at the job at 7 a.m every day and we would unload trucks for four hours and then at 11 a.m we would have lunch and during lunch this is what we would do every day is we would read the for four hours. And then at 11 a.m. we would have lunch. And during lunch, this is what we would do every day, is we would read the New York Post in the break room where there would inevitably be an update

about what was going on in the production and release of the film Eyes Wide Shut. Because it was a very controversial movie. Stanley Kubrick just passed away in the spring of 1999 before the film was released. And also this was the movie about Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman and the possible

dissolution of their relationship. And also has like one of the most fucking ripping trailers ever, you know, with the Chris Isaac song and you're like, what is this?

What are they doing with this? This was probably my most anticipated movie of that year if I had to guess. You little freak. You were 17? Yeah, I turned 17 right when it came out. You little freak. You were 17? Yeah,

I turned 17 right when it came out. You little freak. That's so special. You're watching this and Crash, River Crash with Cronenberg. Spader?

Yeah. But he's anticipating it because it's a Kubrick film. It was a collision. It was my guy Tom. It was Kubrick and it was also like, sounds like there's an orgy

in this movie. Might need to go investigate this orgy. Big moment for the Nuzler. Oh my god. Capital and the Nuzler. Forever. I walked myself

into that dream. There's not enough times in our current film going experience where we're like there could be an orgy in this movie. I agree.

What happened? How great would Oppenheimer have been? There was one. All those guys buttered up. Yeah, I am become death,

you know? This is a very horny movie year. Like a lot of the blockbusters are aggressively horny. Horny teen movie year. Yes.

Unapologetically horny. This is also like two Tom Cruise movies in a row. There's like multiple Julia Roberts movies. There's like every, like all the big stars are making multiple big movies in 99. Absolutely. What does not be alive?

It was what Van was saying, which was that like you were still getting a Clint Eastwood thriller in this year, but also you had this class of people who were really kind of coming into their own. Like Rupert Everett was top of his game and he would go on. I'm just kidding. I mean, he was. He made three movies this year, but you know. Okay.

Who's next? I think it's Van. Oh, Van. Star Wars Episode I, The Phantom Menace. I can't believe it took this long. Can you fucking believe it? Second round?

You got that? I'm sorry. Did you think you were going to be able to get that on the second hit? What category? I did not. Blockbuster.

You're taking that away from 10-year-old Rob. Oh, I'm very fine with it. It's not good. Okay, so here's the thing. What happens? In the movie? Yeah.

Have you ever heard of Anakin Skywalker? Young Anakin. Pod racing. Jake Lloyd. Can I interest you in taxes on trading in space? Right, right. Trade federations. And there's like the parliament or something?

Not yet. This is a Senate. It's a deeply political movie the parliament or something? Not yet. It's a deeply political movie. It's a deeply political movie. It cost me $200 to see the movie. Did you buy a bootleg? No. I had to pay for the tires on

somebody else's car so that they would give me a ride to Monroe. Good thing you had all those billiards winnings. Exactly like i had to pay for the tires i was asked my homie john shout out john i hope you straighten whatever your life what you're doing now he's not listening whatever he might be and i'm like yo i want to go the big picture is life work dog yeah um i want to go and see the movie at monroe we had to go to mon Monroe to see the movie And he was like I ain't got no tires for a whip Like my shit is like fucked up I need new tires

Boom bought the tires Bought the tires so he'd take me to see the movie Was automatically disappointed when I got out of the film It's terrible But the more I've watched it The more I've come to love and appreciate the film Yeah Amanda have you heard of Jar Jar Binks?

I have Okay Yeah Just wanted to make sure. Did you watch episode one? No, I saw episode three in the theater with my dad. We just played hooky one day and went to see it. And that was Natalie Portman in a lot

of makeup. And Hayden Christensen. She's a senator. She's a senator, yeah. My people, the Chancellor. She's a pro-Republic podcast. That's literally a line she's a senator, yeah. My people, the Chancellor. She's a pro-Republic podcast. That's literally a line she has in the second movie.

She goes, I am a senator. She's elected. Long Island, guys. But isn't it like trendy now? Yeah, prequel kids. Yeah, there's a reclamation.

But not, but really not for Phantom Menace that much. More so than for Attack of the Clones. I would say Sith is like, this is an iconic movie. Is you in my right hand?

Sith is a good one. Sith is a legitimate movie. I can't let this stand. This one does have an incredible battle at the end. The lightsaber fight at the end of this is very good. Yes. Dual effect is awesome. Dual effect is incredible.

It really makes the movie worth watching. It does. It's the reason why, because when we first went to the, it was so different from other Star Wars films. reason why, because when we first went to the, it was so much, it was so different from other Star Wars films. And remember, if you're a Star Wars kid,

there's no content besides the books since 83. Yep. And so, the first 20 or 30 minutes are just wonder.

And then about at the 35 mark, you're like, okay. It's freaking boring for like an hour. Yeah, and then you look and I'm like, yo, does this suck? And then you leave the movie on such a high that you've conned yourself by the time you got back to your dream. I think the other thing about Phantom Menace that is genuinely important

is that for certain children, say, who were in middle school in the year of uh of 1999 this was not only the first new star wars that i saw it was the impetus for seeing the originals because they re-released the original trilogy before phantom menace so i have this like wonderful memory of my dad taking me especially yeah to see the original trilogy and then like you go right into phantom menace now seeing them that close together in some ways I think you know you had

the really long wait and then the painful response and then you have the direct adjacency and a different kind of painful response but it was a beautiful moment for nerds

like a beautiful moment for Star Wars fandom you familiar with Darth Maul spiky red things yeah she's got it she's got it

there we go they should never have let him talk you couldn't escape I just remember seeing this movie and being like this is the official

end of my youth and thank god I will no longer be obligated to care about Star Wars did you lose your virginity

now here you are my friend I was a senior in high school my guy friend slept overnight at the theater so that we would be like

the first there the morning they did a morning screening we skipped our first like three periods of school senior year

to go see Phantom Menace Morning Menace yeah and we were like and we were at a theater that was near Lucasfilm so we were seeing

like a bunch of people who had worked on the movie and other than people clapping for themselves in the end credits it was like you could hear a pin drop

with the disappointment in this theater you way to go bro they were like and then we got to and then we got to school and all of our English teachers had also skipped

the first few periods to go see Phantom Menace and then we just spent the rest of the day shit talking it it's a terrible movie. You guys remember the poster? One of the posters for this

movie? It's still one of my favorites. Little Anakin walking forward in the shadow of Vader. Are you an angel? Oh God. Are you an angel? They were so bad. You just wonder how George lost it like that. This was your pick.

I know. Is it weird that nobody has had a single good thing to say about this movie? That's true. I stand by what you said. The final 20 minutes, I was like, this is rock and roll.

I loved it. The movie redeems itself literally with the climax of the film. And I do think I've recontextualized my viewing of it as I've watched more stuff.

A tonal change in Star Wars was needed. It didn't nail that, but I like the movie now more. Just saying, if you were real, you would have drafted Spidershag. A tonal change. A tonal change.

I thought you said the board. It's on the board. Don't take your hand. Don't take your hand. It might be. Honestly, I don't hate it. I don't hate the Spidershag. I like Spidershag.

Same. Is it my pick? It is your pick. The Spidershag. That would be a great pick here, honestly. I can't do it again. Yes, you can. It just...

Yeah, I'm taking Notting Hill in comedy. There we go. That's the move, I think. Should I get the first aid kit? So you have Matrix and Notting Hill. I love this.

I feel great about that. I don't know if I'm going to be allowed to participate in drafts. Are you okay right now? It's bad enough that, I mean, she was within touching distance of it. That's the problem. Yeah, I was this close to a perfect game.

Wait, so is this specifically why you raised earlier like the, oh, the Halcyon days where you guys were kind to each other and thoughtful and didn't want to rip each other's hearts out because you knew you were moving toward this moment where you were going to take that email from Amanda? I didn't say this morning that it would be funny take that nail from Amanda? I didn't say this morning that it would be funny

to take something from Amanda. I would never say that. I would never say something like that. I do think we're also in the zone now though where the big ones or Star Wars feels like the big ones

going off the board now means we're all kind of getting into each other's shit a little bit. I think so. I feel comfortable doing it because I didn't... You got to defend it.

You want to speak up. I didn't want to share it until now, but I'm actually leaving the ringer to write for horse and hound magazine. It's a big career pivot for me. I think it's going to go great. This movie is wonderful. It dares to wonder what if Julia Roberts were Julia Roberts?

I love that. She's like this charming while being supremely mellow. She's so good in it. And this is my favorite hue, which is kind of dopey hue versus snobby hue i like dopey is my favorite brand yeah never seen it never seen it's really good yeah i think you would like it i don't fuck with shit like that like what have you ever said i'm just a blank standing in front of a blank asking them to love me there's something that happens with these

you know those you know like those movies that that come from England and they're English movies. Yeah. Yeah. But they're about love and stuff. There's a disconnect. It's Richard Curtis for you. You know? Yeah.

But the thing is, is that Julia Roberts is American in this. So it's like, it's bridging that. It's not all access. Alec Baldwin is also here. So there was, I'll tell you what put me off about the movie.

You haven't seen it. But there's something put me off about it. I'm aware of the movie. Okay. Okay. So there was, I'll tell you what put me off about the movie. You haven't seen it. But there's something put me off about it. I'm aware of the movie. Okay. Okay. So there was a, there was a, she went on, I think David Letterman to promote the movie and she brought a clip with her and the clip was of them being in bed together, but they were pulling up the sheets because they both had morning breath. Is that

in the movie? Did you see this in a pool hall? Where did you see this episode of David Letterman? I saw this. David Letterman, it was too cute for me. If it's too cute, boom, out of here. I wasn't feeling it. That's right before she says a very important line about, Rita Hayworth used to say, they go to bed with Gilda, they wake up with me. And Gilda is one of of her most famous roles which is also the next line of dialogue from the movie because they don't expect most people to know that but it's about yeah how she can't are you a julia roberts person i do i like her yeah then i think that you should check this out i'll watch it with you she's unreal does it feel plucky to you is that what you're saying well you're anti-pluck he doesn't pluck but she's actually a little bitchy in this. Is she?

Yes. Because I like her with a little edge. She's got a little edge. Yeah. She's got a little edge. She's a stuck-up movie star. This is going to be a very long podcast if we have to convince Van to watch all the movies he hasn't seen.

I haven't seen Notting Hill. Never saw it. Okay. Put it on the list. It's a dastardly selection by Rob taking it away from Amanda who has the next pick. I have the next two picks, actually.

Yeah. Obviously, Notting Hill and Blockbuster was going to be my next pick. I have the next two picks actually yeah um obviously Notting Hill and Blockbuster was going to be my next pick I should have seen that coming it's fine you know it's like Blockbuster is a ride right now it is and I'm sort of like should I take a Blockbuster or should I just kind of keep doing my thing because the thing about Notting Hill and Blockbuster is that I you know as always was just kind of living in the amanda zone and there was like one pick in each category that i thought would be safe and you guys could talk about phantom menace for whatever and i and i

could just do my thing um so well life's cruel it life is cruel. And this draft is cruel. And like I said, being number one, this is incredible. I genuinely really respect this. I do. So we have my list. I mean, I guess I have to, let's bring the energy back. Let's bring the passion back because there is still luckily an Amanda Dobbins patented classic on the board. And it's in a category that's pretty thin. There we go.

And so in action horror thriller, I will be taking The Thomas Crown Affair. There we go. Which is one of That's a sexy That's a sexy

And that is like a signature movie for me. People Long drive to get to the restaurant we all knew It's a sexy

drove around in circles being like what do you want to eat what do you want to eat everybody applied chicky Rene Russo

but everyone drank like Mal Rubin juice before the spot they're like let me just take you back to a time before there was men but there was a feeling

in the air that there would be a film and that film would be called The Thomas Crown Affair this is I just saw this movie if you haven't seen it, they have sex on the stairs.

Rene Russo wears amazing clothes and also doesn't wear them equally well. Very important. Really good heists. Love when she's like, I'm not wearing a top.

They crash a fancy boat. So that is some of the action. This is directed by John McTiernan. Speaking of action things. So that's good. It's definitely the best Pierce Brosnan movie that came out this year. Yeah, absolutely. He's such a brat in it. So that's good. It's definitely the best Pierce Brosnan movie that came out this year.

Yeah, absolutely. He's such a brat in it too. He's awesome. It's his best Bond movie far and away and it's not a Bond movie. You said you're taking this in action thriller?

Okay. If I gave you the Thomas Crown offer, $10 million to give up this pic right now, would you do it? What? And I would get $10 million?

$10 million. You get $10 million and you put Thomas Crown back on the board you get 10 million big picture bucks girl era take Ben Dunn pots

all your girl era no if you would like to put Notting Hill on the board wow you wouldn't do it for 10 million dollars you don't actually have 10 million dollars

well I was going to try to expense it like if you were putting 10 million dollars in front of me sure but in the reality of this draft

sure no that's a great day when i get that we'd be taking a bathroom break yeah after her second yeah let's i thought we were gonna do it after 21 we were gonna do after 21 but let's yeah oh let's oh so in the middle of chris's pick we pause interesting okay i like it okay mandy you've got another pick you've got the thomas crown affair and amanda classic so there are two moves that I could do here.

I could do the sensible thing and pick a blockbuster that I'm not passionate about, but it's probably practical to do. And I think Giggles over here will probably take it from me. Or... Who's Giggles? I have no clue. That's Mallory. So it's Giggles, Abroad, and the Nuzzler?

Is that where we are right now? That's what we're doing. I have a blockbuster. You'll have one soon. Don't worry. You must be eligible in other categories then. Tricky. I could do something that would keep up the Amanda energy and would be important to me,

but I think would really screw over someone who I like a lot. Did everyone get a throat-clearing trank dart before this pod? Yeah. Jimmy, pick your movie. Why do you have to nod and yell from you? Why do you care about what people think? Why did you think what happened when you invited seven people to trust?

He just took Notting Hill from me. My entire game is ruined. I'm pulling it together. I'm talking through strategy. You talked for 45 minutes about what fucking Fight Club meant to you and capitalism. We solved masculinity, though.

You will sit down and let me raise the narrative states of this podcast an hour and 20 minutes. Wait, how is this raising the narrative states? This is what happens when we don't have food around.

It's honestly a problem. I asked you to order some sandwiches and you didn't. Well, I don't work for you, so. That's what you think. Okay. You know what? Take Austin Powers.

Just do it. I'll take Austin Powers. But why is it controversial? That's a huge, I mean, it's huge. Yeah, gigantic. I don't know if I love it. It's a huge I don't know I love it blockbuster or comedy

blockbuster is that what you were talking about when you said you might take something from Giggles Austin Powers yeah I love this

okay great stuff Chris Van Bill and I are on a text chain together and we talk about

certain things movies and things like that and sometimes we talk about certain things, movies and things like that. And sometimes we talk about... Certain things. Wow. You're making this sound much worse than it probably is. It's Sydney Sweeney.

We recently had a brief discussion about Heather Graham. Yeah. Yeah. Who is the star of The Spy Who Shagged Me. I would just like to say I'm not on that group chat, but I am on a number of other group texts

with you guys where you also routinely mention Heather Graham. Yeah, she's 54 years old. She's had a wonderful career. This comes up a lot with you guys. Saw Heather Graham in a restaurant last month. She goes to restaurants a lot because I feel like a lot of people

have Heather Graham restaurant anecdotes. Just see that restaurant. Just go to Pache. I do, yeah. Beautiful. Love Pache. Really beautiful. Very good.

Very funny in Austin Powers Powers Felicity Shagwell Felicity Shag now or Shag later great stuff honestly poetry one of the funniest things like everybody was doing

the Austin Powers voice when Austin Powers came out obviously like yeah baby but just doing lines from the movie you can do better wait a minute I'm not doing lines

you're Austin Powers right there let's clip that put that on social as soon as possible Sean also doesn't like movies from England I saw

speaking of Sydney Sweeney a video I did that did someone bring her up I did that it's Sydney Sweeney crying in the

bathroom mirror and it's also layered over it is Borat voice. And the caption is me overhearing my husband practice his Borat imitation in the shower

when we're about to go out with all of my friends. Did you send it to Phoebe? Great content, yeah. And ask which of her burners she used to post it. All right, Rob, you've got the next pick. Yeah, I'm thrilled. her burners she used to post it. That's really good. All right, Rob, you've got the next pick.

Yeah, I'm thrilled. I'm going to put on my pick flick button, and I'm going to take election in Oscar. God damn. I'm bummed. What a bullet in Sean's head. Man, I'm just being getting okey-doked. Incredible movie.

Honestly, might be the best movie of this year, but I felt I needed to definitely... Hold call. Hold call. You were doing well. Hold call. All that matters to me is I'm getting the best movie this year but I felt I needed to definitely hold hold hold hold hold all that matters to me is I'm getting what I considered

to be the best movie this year with my third pick so feeling very confident impeccably acted hilarious movie honestly has a lot more to say about

Suburban Malaise than the most Suburban Malaisie movies that we have yet to talk about from this year I just I love this thing

from top to bottom incredible Chris a great fine performance so good he's so really not only in this movie and he's so funny so good oh hell or high water no love that's chris pine chris i thought you said chris no chris klein yeah american pie never seen the election um is it my turn you're up in killing me, man. You know what the problem is? Is that I can do whatever I want because no one is going to draft the movies that I'm going to draft now because I'm so drafting from my heart

that I don't really have to think about anything else now. If that was the case, you would have drafted already. Comedy. Varsity Blues. I was wondering what genre this movie is I was really hoping

to get this later I think comedy works I think drama works I don't want it could be an action movie this is the year for I don't want your life

I don't want your life why? you don't think sports movies can be action movies? they can be you don't think this works as comedy?

no I think it does yeah comedy varsity blues i just besides the matrix this was my favorite movie of that year it wasn't the best but besides the matrix it's the movie from that year uh that i watched the most i just really related to it at that time in my life. Like, super duper loved it. All my friends loved it. I watched the shit out of it. It would be, I would be untrue to myself if I didn't come away with

Was it a pro? Were you pro Vanderby? Were you a Mox? Very, very, very pro John. Were you a Dawson's fan? Yeah.

I never watched the second one. Oh my God. Never watched the second one. That was important. What about John Boyd? What about watching Dawson's Creek was like? I've never watched the second one.

What category did you put that in? It's comedy I'll tell you a quick story about Varsity Blues is it wait does it involve the nuzzler

seeing his first whipped cream bikini no this is about college no okay first week of college but has Ali Larder

ever shown up in that group chat no no unfortunately maybe we should we should get her going next yeah

I've met a bunch of guys on my freshman dorm room floor, like you do, you make friends. These guys all had the same, I would say, mischievous sense of humor that I did. There was one guy who was among our friends named Dave, whose name, Dave Weiss was his name, and we would call him Mox,

and we would tell everyone that he was the inspiration for Moxley in Varsity Blues. And that everyone back home called him Mox. Did he have a very wide-legged jean? No. I mean, he resembled Mox in zero ways. He did not play football. He was not a strapping man.

No accent. No accent. He was from Syracuse, New York. Do you ever think you've had a unique experience in your life and then you find out you didn't? Because there were too many Chrises on my dorm floor. And so we called one of the Chris's Mox and he was called Mox all through college. But was it because he resembled Mox from-

No, he was like a lanky Asian dude. Oh. And we just called him Mox and I could not tell you why, but I forgot his actual name for a couple of years there because we only ever called him Mox or Mox. I'm glad I conjured that for you. Yeah, thank you.

Okay. Am I up? You are. You are. Gosh. I'm not sure what I'm going to do. This is where it gets kind of... I've had a few beloved films

taken from me. I guess an Oscar nominee I'll do Being John Malkovich. Yeah. Damn it. That's a good one. That's the move. Absolute classic.

Also one of the funniest movies from this year. Yeah. Also gave us Lost in Translation. So, thank you. It did. That's right. It's getting dark.

Very correlated. Thanks to Cameron Diaz's fine work in the film being done, Malkovich and whatever it inspired and Sofia Coppola. I think it's like a pretty signal gateway movie for this generation of people who are like mainstream movies can be a little bit weird, can be different, can be very weird. The idea of this movie on paper is so confounding

and it doesn't really work if john malkovich says no but the fact that he was like sure i'll do it and i'll i'll be 100 versions of myself in a restaurant um wearing dresses uh is magical and it's this is like this was the cool movie that got nominated at the oscars this year too for best original screenplay charlie kaufman so that's my pick bummed i've been thinking about when you chris Ryan, read out Spike Jonze's filmography during the Babylon podcast. Maybe the best to ever do it. Because it was just like

18 jackass movies. And then five perfect films. And weird wild things are. Absolute masterpieces. Okay. Who's next? Joanna, you're next. I believe this can go in action, but you let me know. It is next? Joanna, you're next. I believe this can go in action, but you let me know.

It is clearly a comedy, but can also be action. I'm picking Galaxy Quest. Good pick. Good movie. I love this movie. I love that movie. That's a really good movie. This is one of the rare movies

I have on VHS and DVD. What happens in that? Oh, it's a great pick. You would actually love it. You would really love it. It's very funny. Great Sigourney Weaver, great Alan Rickman. Okay.

Tim Allen's also there. It is a parody of Star Trek. But what if the actors, the washed up actors of an old Star Trek show actually got sent to space because aliens in space think they're the real heroes from their show. Oh, okay. And then Tony Shalhoub is one of the aliens and it's great i like sigourney and pretty much everything so sigourney is great because oh and a great sam rockwell performance stacked it's very very yeah it's it's really really uh aged well i think similar to the mummy this is one of those things that just sort of like everyone agrees is a good movie. Was Galaxy Quest a big hit?

I don't think so. It was like a modest success and then like really hit on VHS and DVD. Because I don't think there was a hook to get people to go watch it but like once you didn't

have to go to the theater to watch it everyone watched it and the movie's really good. It's so good. Yeah. I love this movie. Great pick.

Okay Mallory you've got a pick? Um you know I was hoping I won't lie that I could take being John Malkovich in uh in Oscar noms as you did Sean but I had a backup ready it's here and uh I'm going with my action thriller horror pick right now and I'm genuinely delighted to pick one of my favorite movies of all time, Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Panels.

Jesus! Did you want it? Yeah, I wanted it! I don't think I've ever taken a pic from Chris before. This is a beautiful moment. I wish I could tell you how many times I watched this with my high school and college boyfriend, but the number does not exist. It's infinite.

There's no limit to how many times a guy can watch this movie we would just alternate between this and Snatch we would just watch them back to back basically every day

can you give him my number yeah I'll put you guys in touch I'll put you guys in touch it's the perfect guy movie that also has really really hot guys and it's directed

by a guy named Guy yeah like the guy named Guy this is appropriate. There's a new Guy Ritchie movie this week in theaters. There you go. There's always a new Guy Ritchie.

The wit, like the violence, the intrigue, the wit, the hilarity. It's one of those perfectly calibrated action heist movies

that is like such a laugh to return to no matter how many times you see it it just gets somehow like more enjoyable you're never like i know what joke is coming or i know what face somebody is going to make or i know who's about to get like violently murdered and torn apart it's always wonderful i really actually feel a little bit bad it's really okay i have this has actually been like a great draft because i feel like everybody has such personal taste even though it's like this hugely monocultural year. So halfway through.

I just discovered that we're only one pick away from our bathroom break. Rob took Notting Hill and comedy and not blockbuster, which is that now I'm disgusted. Well, I already had the matrix. I understand that. But like now I'm actually angry. So personal preference only goes so far. Lunch break could not go ahead, Christopher. Oh, should I do both of my picks?

Just do one and then we'll take a break. Just one and then let's pause. We'll be at the halfway point. In drama, I am going to take Any Given Sunday. Oh, fuck.

I really have been thwarted over and over again here. We've now screwed each other because I was hoping to get this on the turn here. I didn't have a huge drama list. Great pick. But it doesn't matter

because no movie gets inside and I think it's really like when you think about like the Greek conception of drama oh wow yeah

when you think about that keep going could not have imagined what Al Pacino does with the halftime speech there you go great pick great Bill Bellamy

performance yeah for sure that's your second note that's a very very weird second bullet point, but yeah. No. I think of a Sunday as one of my favorite sports movies.

I think in some ways it can be viewed as a comedy, but it is a drama for me. I just want a van update. He just clicked on the Letterboxd link to 1999, so things are going really good. We have some stuff. Good sports movies. I will be back with my next pick after this.

Wow. I'm seeing so many movies that I want to take. Get groceries delivered across the GTA from Real Canadian Superstore with PC Express. Shop online for super prices and super savings. Try it today and get up to $75 in PC Optimum Points. Visit superstore.ca to get started. Okay, we're back. We've completed 21 of 42 picks. I would say most of the behemoths are off the board.

This will probably be a slightly more personal back half, more esoteric. Chris Ryan, you have the first pick. I will be picking a comedy. I think that there's a little bit of this could go in multiple categories. In lots of ways, this was my Magnolia when it was released. It's Go.

That was the gamble I made. I was like, I don't think Go is going to get past the turn with Chris. I saw Magnolia and I was like that was the gamble I made I was like I don't think Goh is gonna get past the turn I saw Magnolia and I was like I gotta admit not doing a ton of class A drugs or having massive breakups

or parting ways with a parent yet so Goh really spoke to me you know Katie Holmes spoke to me Timothy Oliphant's neck tat spoke to me Dirtbag Oliphant

Scott Wolfe yes paired with Jay Moore. This was probably I guess a little bit underrated because it wasn't swingers, I guess, but it's still such a great rewatch. So many of these movies just still go so hard

right now. If you put Blackstock, you put Go on any given Sunday, what a triple header. Great way to spend an afternoon. Us two fucking chuckleheads sitting at the end of this couch. That's what we're doing tonight giggle giggle

slingshot it back around standing invite Chris why hasn't Go been released on Blu-ray can you answer that for me oh my god

oh I don't know you were the one who told us to stay on topic I do have it on DVD I have it on DVD too but it's time it's time

do you think that like giving Go a new scan would like improve its cinematography I think it might improve its cinematography? I think it might improve its public reputation. It's time for it

to be revived. It's like digital camera in certain ways. Were you more of a Katie Holmes than a Sarah Polly? Oh no, I was very much Sarah Polly. Okay.

Yeah. Shout out to her. Yeah, she was very smart. Jesse Bradford. Shout out to both of them. You know what I mean? Yeah. They're part of me

are two wolves. Katie and Sarah. The rest of it can flag. I think you could just cut out the entire Vegas part. Yes. Can't we? Just get rid of the Taye Diggs part,

and then you've got a solid 72-minute film. Release the fantasy cut. Just cut Taye out of it. What was my Sarah Polly? I'm thinking a different movie for her. She's in like five movies this year. She's crazy good in Dawn of the Dead. Dawn of the Dead.

I like her in Go. Go's great. Sweet hair after. Yeah. Dawn of the Dead. I like her in Go. Go's great. Sweet hair after. Yeah. If Zack Snyder had just like straight up moved into a Buddhist

like monastery the day after Dawn of the Dead came out I would have been like that's our Scorsese right there. You're not a you're not a rebel moonhead?

You're not really excited for Rebel Moon? Scargiver? Part 2 of Scargiver? Scargiver this Friday. Releasing God in the service. Competing with Taylor Swift.

It's happening right now. Are all seven of us reconvening for that podcast? Is it Scargiver and Taylor Swift as well? I'm talking shit. Scargiver, watch a little bit. That shit did numbers, bro. No, it didn't hot. It did.

The first one, it's a massive failure. And now they're putting out a second one. You're drinking the Snyder Kool-Aid. Do you also want the Snyder cut of Sucker Punch, which is something he threatened the internet with? Did he really? Sucker Punch was so fucking unwatchable, bro. It's the worst.

I honestly thought you were going to say if Zack Snyder had cast Sarah Polly as Superman, then things might have been different, but you didn't say that. With that, he made Dawn of the Dead a legitimately fantastic movie. I love it. And then went totally so different.

300. 300 comes out,, went totally so different. 300. 300 comes out, it's totally so different. You ever wonder, like, what happens if somebody, some intern doesn't walk into his office,

look at this technology, and then he spends like five, ten years making shitty, weird movies. You think he'd be making The English Patient instead? Maybe. I think we'd be like five movies

into Guardians of the Gahool. You know, like, just like. That's a fucking owl movie. Yeah, I love the owl movie. If you just kept making movies where people fought in malls.

Great genre. Mall fights. Mall fight movie. You're just don't burn a feature topic, please. Okay, Mal, you're up. Okay. I did just scan my

tracker log to make sure I wasn't about to make a mistake and that this had not, in fact, been taken two rounds earlier where I thought it would be selected. I had this movie, maybe, maybe you guys all disagree. I'm genuinely curious. I had this movie ranked ninth overall on my total list. I am another child of Baltimore. So it tracks, uh, the only bummer here is that I have to take it in wild card. I don't like going wild card this early,

but I just simply cannot, in good faith and decency, leave this film on the board any longer. Can't take my eyes off of you. This is what I was going to take from you. Why is this here still? 10 Things I Hate About You. What are we all doing? Because Rob took fucking Maddie Hill in comedy,

and so I had to get a blockbuster before things got bad. Why are you looping me into this? I think the comedy category is really deep. There's a lot of great comedy.

This is a top 10 overall movie for the year. I, again, having to go with Wild Card in round four, I don't love it from a draft tactics perspective,

but it's worth it to be able to get this film here. I take it in Wild Card and I do so gladly. Where will I be when it's time for me to select my drama and Oscar nominee

guys I don't know we'll find out together your draft board is I never could have predicted in a million years it's very chaotic these are movies that I genuinely love

it's possible that's a movie I saw with my mom what do I have some stories Lockstock and Two Smoking Barrels and Office Space and Office Space Dynamite movies

I mean those are good movies I'm not criticizing the quality all of our boards have Dynamite movies except for Van's choice of fan minutes I I'm not criticizing the quality. Well, I think all of our boards have dynamite movies except for Van's choice of fan minutes. I'm feeling great. I actually genuinely thought

this would be a second round pick like for sure. I'm surprised it's here. It was almost. But I'm happy. Comedy is just like a really deep category that I just didn't feel

the urgency. I agree. When my son was born, I would try to sing him to sleep sometimes but I realized that there aren't that many songs that I know like

all of the words to like acapella without singing them you know like you can sing along real Slim Shady number one what else

did you just start screaming at him instead I'm shooting a nose spray at tomorrow I knew every single word I can take my eyes off of you because of this movie

of course each one of my eyelids I'm feeling great also that part of your world was the other one that I knew from memory, which was pretty, that was,

but again, movie songs that imprint on you. That's a great song. Okay. I'm feeling belated. Joanna, you're up. Oh.

Well, I did want to take go and 10 things, so that's okay. I am. What am I strapped of all of us praising each other's picks? I'm going to, I still think comedy has a lot of options on us praising each other's picks? I'm gonna

I still think comedy has a lot of options on the table so I'm gonna bop over to drama and I'm gonna pick Three Kings God

Adam is gonna be thrilled That hurts He's begging me to not let it get past round two What is happening in this draft to me?

Ice Cube You don't like that pick? No, it's a great pick. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It wounds him as it wounds us all. I think that's a wonderful pick. I always get...

Being next to Joanna is tough because we have secret shadow taste. Apparently, so do Chris and I today. I know. Real twist.

Well, you were devastated by the Toy Story 2 pick. I'm so glad I've only ever seen a scene from a toy story short and it was the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life I was like I can't believe people spend this much time

watching this. Was it about like the first date or that was an inside out short? Oh no that was an inside out Are you saying that out loud just so the 4,000 white guys crying while masturbating while listening to this thinking of you. Like, just so they can get off. How many are doing what now?

Wow. That's the illicit shot. 4,000 guys. Only 4,000? Only 4,000? They are in a psychic mind melt where they are imagining using their open hand to behand another man. That's the illicit shot Sean has ever said, man.

And they're thinking of you and they're waiting for you to denigrate animation. This sounds like a great Friday night. Just so many guys that look like you smiling as you deride the animated form of filmmaking. If we showed you the sequence in Toy Story 3, not eligible for today's draft, when everyone holds hands as they're going down into the flaming trash compactor pit, you would weep. Don't they all live, though? They made like five of these.

Fair point. They do live. I asked you if you saw something, and the response was one sentence with a period. I don't watch cartoons. Period. Oh, shit. I've listened up.

It's very clear on this point. I'm open to the art form. Oh, you watched Blue Eyes Samurai. He did watch Blue Eyes Samurai and he was so excited to tell Andy and Andy was like, I've been waiting decades

for this moment. I did not like this show. And Chris was like, well, I'll never bother again. That's what all the animated heads said about the movie. Anyway. In comedy,

I'm taking South Park bigger, longer, and uncut. This is the origin story of Nuzzler. You gotta do this. You gotta do this. What is Nuzzler? Nuzzler!

Have even the animated movie haters seen this movie? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, sorry. I'm not an animation hater. I think so. I don't know

whether I've seen it in full or whether I've seen it in a college dorm room on Louis could have been your Oscar nominee I still think South Park had more to do with the end of record stores than Napster how so? because they started selling South Park merch at the record store

I worked at and it was just like this is it that seems like a very personal experience that you're crafting onto the end of media to 13 year olds instead of getting them into Fugazi did you ever buy a Cartman doll? No. No. Never, never.

If Amanda ever asked me to sing her child to sleep, I could sing all the lyrics to Uncle Fucker. Uncle Fucker? Oh, yeah. I thought you were going to go what would Rob do?

Sing them now. The floor is yours. Blame Canada? The floor is yours. Sing. I don't know. It seems salty. Say it and then not sing it.

Do we lose advertisers if we say you shit-faced cockmaster on this podcast? Terrence and Phillip as a real-time satire of adults crying about how South Park

is corroding our youth is an ingenious idea. We broke Amanda. I mean, that's for a thousand... I'd like a really bad but funny take but just the image

of him at Kim's with the poop doll. It was Newberry Comics. It was Newberry Comics. And then one day I was like high on Ritalin, talking to like a mom, being like, this is what you have to get your kid into. That's the real talk I saw right there. You did that?

You up-souled a woman? She came in and she was like, I think my kid likes Limp Bizkit. I was like, no, he does not. I did it all for the noogie, go on, the noogie, go on. Bizkit. I was like, no, he does not. Here's what your kid likes. And I got her like 10 CDs and I was just like out of my fucking mind. What compelled you to share this today?

What compelled you to share this? Did you just want to bring up Limp Bizkit to get back to Sean's imagery of a bunch of people masturbating to you? That's the musical compliment for sure. That is funny for sure. Do the 4,000 men

holding hands listen to Nookie while listening to the pod? While creating Limp Bizkit? Like a double stereo situation? Yeah. Great.

South Park Bigger Longer N Cut holds up. Really funny. It's also 80 minutes long, which is magical. Wow. I love it. Annoyingly relevant, I would say, even still. Just enough time to, you know, cement your relationship with your future wife. That's beautiful.

It worked. That's how I knew she was the gal for me. Okay. Who's up next? Should we joke? Van? Is it me? Oh, Van Oh no Joe's before you Oh yeah Arlington Road Oh my god Yeah

Okay Yeah The terrorist next door What category? Drama Drama On our break You were like hinting

I gotta I'm gonna make a big move next Well look This is it Gun to my head Arlington Road would never Have been I would just Not have thought that Anybody would have Drafted the movie I Well, look, this is it. Gun to my head, Arlington Road would never have been.

I would just not have thought that anybody would have drafted the movie. I am in love with the movie. I love deep descent into paranoia film. I love my neighbor. But like the whole thing. Tim Robbins, sinister, tall, weird. Joan Cusack, super weird as well ending where the good guys lose love the movie it's like just short of a prestigy really important film but is a super taught drama thriller about this guy with all of this trauma and all of this shit going on that

his neighbors are terrorists are domestic terrorists. Have you seen this one? I have not. Arlington road. Love it. Impression film. Tim Robbins. In some ways.

Yeah, for sure. Nuclear. I have paranoia about our neighbors, you know, and terrorism on American soil. Yep. Very,

very, very pre nine 11 movie. Um, okay. Amanda, you're up. No, Rob,

you're up. Will he wound Amanda yeah deeply not or does he have someone else in his crosshairs deeply deeply not we're gonna get super weird

the sniper I'm gonna take Existence in thriller action horror thriller love Existence yeah okay

yeah the goopy port this movie way more of this movie is about buttholes than I was expecting yeah a lot of goopy ports.

This is the other side of Jude Law. Yes. Jennifer Jason Leigh licking her finger and sticking it into his bio port. That's what we're all about here. Who among us? Tough to see someone else live in your dreams as the meme goes. Some weapons made from organic goopy things.

It's the goopiest movie ever. I love it. It's a good pairing with The Matrix for me. I like that as a double feature. A lot of pondering the meaning of life of virtual existence. Shoving stuff into stuff. Stuff into stuff. What are we about here

if not that? Can you pronounce it and then spell it? I believe it is pronounced existence, right? Existence. E capital X I S T E N

capital Z. Correct. Correct. Nice job, Rob. Thank you. Excellent movie. Amanda, you're up. Nice job, Rob. Thank you. Excellent movie. Amanda, you're up. I have two minutes.

Why did you just lean forward? Because I just can't wait for this. This is fine. Unless I like with you and poop dolls. I think this is just going to be a teen Amanda situation. I was a teenager

in 1999. And so in drama I will be taking the Stone Cold classic Cruel Intentions. Thank you. I was a teenager in 1999. And so, in drama, I will be taking the stone-cold classic Cruel Intentions. Thank you. Kielbasa County Crows.

It is shocking. This is the first time I feel like I should have drafted that. That movie rules. That movie rules. Unbelievable. I was praying it would

make it back to me. I should have drafted that. Without any expectation that it would. I think I've probably, this is top five most seen movies of this year for me. And I don't even know if I had it on VHS, but I,

and I can't really imagine that all of it was allowed on cable, even in 1999. No way. You know, but that's okay. Very important. You mean like HBO? No,

like basic cable. Yeah, basic cable. Yeah. My, my, we didn't have HBO at my house. That's okay.

And then in comedy, I, you know, I did want 10 things have hbo in my house that's okay and then in comedy i you know i did want 10 things i hate about you but that's okay so maybe in some ways this is this is truer to amanda's spirit and heart um i'll be taking the the you always make it sound like you're drafting for someone named amanda which is right here. You owe a lot too. Like not many people call me. I mean, I wouldn't say that my name is like used very much. You're Dobbins.

Yeah. Dobbins or. Mandy. We all call you Mandy. Right. Amanda is like, I don't know if my parents like really landed the plane on that one, but I,

so I would agree with you. Anyway, I'm going to take Dick. The 1999 Kirsten Dunst, Michelle Williams. I'm going to take Dick Williams I'm gonna take dick I'm gonna clip it oh yeah I love to take dick

there we go an absolute classic you guys seen this movie? it's so funny the best Woodward and Bernstein ever in a movie Will Ferrell is

yeah playing Bob Woodward and then well you know what man I'm glad to bring you joy speaking of the creek I told you I picked rural intentions first

speaking of the creek let's talk about Daw I picked rural intentions first. Speaking of the creek, let's talk about Dawson's Creek influence on this draft. We've got Varsity Blues. We've got Go. And now Michelle Williams joins the chat. Right. With Dick. I mean, but like Kiki really steals the show.

Dunst checks in. Yeah. And you know. Dunst checks in. Just a searing look into our government and journalism systems in the 70s in the United States. Someone finally got it right. Fave MTV generation movie. It's very good.

Very funny. Back to you, Rob. We're getting down to last rounds here. I'm going to go inacks. Last rounds here. I'm going to go in drama. A movie that completely caught me off guard when I watched it. I had not heard of this at all

until preparing for this draft. I'm going to take the straight story. Oh. David Lynch. Richard Farnsworth. David Lynch presented by Walt Disney.

Honestly. Farnsworth got nominated. Farnsworth got nominated. I think it was like this was almost like made this was like Oscar bait a little bit, right? Pretty Oscar bait-y. Kind of. But onesworth got nominated. I think it was like, this was almost like made, this was like Oscar bait a little bit, right? Pretty Oscar bait-y.

Kinda. But like, one of the most beautiful movies I've seen. It will hit you so hard if you are a brother of a brother in particular. So, right in my strike zone.

The fact that he did not win Best Actor for this and that Spacey did. Deeply wounding. Van supported it. He thought it was the right move. Yeah, what's your take on that? I love American Beauty.

Love it. Still yours to pick with your next selection. That's fine. I know what movie I want next. I got all of the movies that I wanted.

I know the way I'll draft the other movies that I want. I got all the films that I wanted. So yeah. And I'm going to get Arlington Road.

No one snapped it away from him. You didn't want the straight story wait what category did you take Dick in comedy but you already had

did you not take Austin Powers as comedy I took that in Black Buster yeah okay got it that could have been Oscar I think right

I think Best Makeup could have been it could have been The Spy Who Shagged Me yeah The Spy Who Shagged My Oscar nope absolutely not

okay alright so you've got the straight story yeah feel great about it okay I think so. The spy who shagged my Oscar. Nope. Absolutely not. Okay. All right. So you've got the straight story. Yeah. Feel great about it. Okay. Getting interesting here. So who's next?

Van, are you taking American Beauty? Van is up next? Should we be up next? Yeah. No, because I know I'll be able to get it. Wild Card. Will you? I still have to take an Oscar nominee.

I don't give a fuck. He's Wild Card. Dogma. This is the movie that you're at. I both texted Sean about apparently independent of each other. Y'all are all very transgressive. We get it. This is the movie that you asked. I both texted Sean about apparently independent of each other. Y'all are all very transgressive.

We get it. This is a great movie. Love Dogma. Oh, what a great year for Alan Rickman. Galaxy Quest and Dogma. Love Dogma. Wonderful.

Probably not my favorite Kevin Smith movie, but probably the one I'm most connected to. Favorite Kevin Smith movie is one of his worst movies. Jay and Silent Bob straight back. No, it's not the worst movie. I mean, it's just, it's not a bad his worst movies. It's Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

No, it's not the worst movie. I mean, it's just, it's not a bad movie. What? It's a great film. You're talking about Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back? Yes.

I like Jay and Silent Bob as well. I love it. You know, Chris and I had long threatened the View Askew Universe pod and we've never done it. So if you want to participate, you're invited.

I support that. I really support that. I was on them like I was on the MCU. It was my MCU. He applied all of the world building ideas to his silly movies.

Dogma has only grown in Mystique because you cannot stream it anywhere because of the rights. Because it's like tangled up in Weinstein rights.

And did you see Kevin Smith's April Fool's joke? I did not. But he was like we're releasing like you know a remastered version

yeah a remastered version of Dogma they should do like the Gus Van Sant psycho thing where he just reshoots it shot for shot

yeah but bring back the original cast yeah contemporary a lot of it it would be pretty fun to recast Dogma yeah well we need to do

something with George Carlin because he's no longer with us unfortunately and Al Rickman Kevin's version has some legs is available yeah to recast Dogma. Yeah, well, we didn't need to do something with George Carlin because he's no longer with us. And Al Rickman. Al Rickman's late too. Kevin's version has some legs. But Linda Fiorentino is available.

Also, kind of a heady movie for Kevin at that time. Like looking at, like he was going for, I think something that the audience, that audiences weren't really

ready to accept for him. I would argue that he also was not ready to do that, but I loved that he tried it. Fair enough. Like a kid raised Catholic in a suburban New Jersey neighborhood grappling with the idea of what Catholicism means to him, but trying to make a broad kind of gross out sex comedy around that idea is really cool.

Revisiting the movie doesn't quite have the same charm to me as the first, the trilogy of movies that he made. You know, the- Probably not. The Clerks, Chasing Amy. Yeah. Chasing Amy holds up very well, as we know. Mallrats trilogy.

Well, the ideas feel passe, but the movie is, I think, better. I'll tell you something. Dogma, though, also, it is a perfect fuck your parents movie. Like your parents walk in and you're watching it. I'm like,

oh dad, my Catholic father, come here, watch this. Watch these angels about to murder a whole fucking room. Like watch,

come here. Yeah, all the movie restaurants. Yeah, the whole deal. Like watch all of this. It's a perfect fuck your parents movie

in 1999. Chris, any thoughts? On Jay and Silent Bob or on Dogma? On Dogma. Well, you've already weighed in on Jay and Silent Bob. Or relationships fuck your parents movie in 1999. Chris, any thoughts? On Jay and Silent Bob or on Dogma? On Dogma. Well, you've already weighed in on Jay and Silent Bob.

Or relationships with your parents, I guess. This was... Where are you at on the Catholic church? After the first omen and immaculate? Kind of dicey.

Okay. I'm up, right? Yep. In drama, I'll be taking the limey. Yeah. I'm going to come across the table

and fuck you up you can't go and The Limey I can't believe The Limey is this low I'm astonished this is probably way too long

this is a Steven Soderbergh classic starring Terrence Stamp as a career criminal come to Los Angeles

to figure out who killed his daughter yeah big girl dad movie I'm seeing it with new eyes yeah criminal come to Los Angeles to figure out who killed his daughter. Big girl dad movie. I'm seeing it with new eyes. As a father of daughters. I love the library. What does Steve yell?

Tell them I'm fucking coming! Also, great callback to Peter Fonda as this scion of Los Angeles, the god of Hollywood living in the hills and that pursuit of him at the end of the movie. Just a beautiful, cool, slick movie. Also, fun fact,

features one of the greatest commentaries in movie history where Lem Dobbs, the screenwriter of the movie, and Steven Soderbergh get into an actual fight during the audio commentary about a lot of what happened in the making of the movie. Because Lem Dobbs, the screenwriter of the movie, and Steven Soderbergh get into an actual fight during the audio commentary about a lot of what happened in the making of the movie. Because Len Dobbs is like, you did all this dumb timeline shit to my perfect screenplay. Yes, why did you fuck up my script?

Very, very entertaining. Oh, and they left... I want to hear that. Definitely worth your time. So yeah, The Limey. That's my pick. Great pick. Okay, Joanna, you're next.

I'm concerned that Joe is going to take what I'm hoping to take here. I think I'm maybe possibly and with love and respect to you possibly I have to pick in wild card

Iron Giant god damn it Joanna yeah fuck so emotional it really is perfect film it really is

you mentioned that this is like a good year for animation it is there's like there's still a freaking Miyazaki on the board etc but not for long after you took Iron Giant from me but for me I mentioned that this is like a good year for animation. It is. There's like, there's still a fricking Miyazaki on the board, et cetera,

but not for long after you took Iron Giant from me. But for me, it's Iron Giant. I just think this is a wonderful, perfect film. And especially if you've never seen Ready Player One, where Steven Spielberg forgot the whole point of Iron Giant is that he's not a weapon. He's not a gun. He's not a gun.

He makes it very clear. And then they made him a gun in Ready Player One. But anyway, Iron Giant, what an incredible film. Truly emotional. Great Harry Connick Jr. voice performance.

It's like the jazzy artist who runs the junkyard. I showed this to my daughter yesterday for the first time. Oh, how'd it go? It went very well. She was fascinated by the relationship between the boy and the giant hogarth the boy um but i had forgotten

that the final 20 minutes just turns into a cold war era like military shootout not exactly what i want to be showing a two-year-old you know like a lot of a lot of but your daughter has like incredibly hot takes about like the characters who were actually the heroes of stories by far her favorite character in the film was Hogarth's mother. Okay. She was like, where's the mom? Yeah, she loved Jennifer Aniston. I get it.

Yeah. And you know, she's an important character, but I would say not in the top two. Maybe not even in the top four. No. I'm on Letterboxd right now because I also need a wild card. And I see that you also showed her Sleeping Beauty recently. Which she loved, but also was like, can we go back to The Prince? I would like to see The Prince.

Listen, Prince Philip is the best part of that movie. But he doesn't do anything. He has a fine relationship with his horse. Well, I mean, she's asleep. He defies his father. But she's only asleep for a very short period of time. You forget. It's really only 15 minutes at the end of the movie.

The real stars of the movie are the fairies. I don't remember. The fairies are great. Oh the fairies oh yeah yeah it's very scary in that she is then in the real when she turns into the dragon yeah that's tough oh you got you got iron giant i did get iron giant i'm sorry i love you are you are you thinking princess mononoke i am in fact gonna select princess mononoke by one of our true masters and geniuses, Miyazaki. It was Iron Giant or Princess Mononoke for me here. I thought Joan might take Iron Giant. She did, but I'm thrilled with my pick as well. You know, a number of us here on these couches recently when Boy and the Heron came out had an excuse to revisit many Miyazaki films and then pod together about them.

This is just an absolutely exquisite movie. Gorgeous, dark, disturbing, but also heartening. It's a classic. I'm sure it's not one that Chris is familiar with, but the rest of us know it's magic and it's eternal pull, and I'm thrilled to have it here as my drama. It does pay me to not select For Love of the Game as my drama, so I hope that somebody else takes the opportunity, avails themselves of the opportunity

before this draft is over to talk about Kevin Costner licking his glove and then getting a handjob on the massage table. Don't let me down. Please don't let me down. I took 10 things as my wild card.

I have not seen that movie. The one thing I wrote in my notes about it was for the love of the game, this is the most Mallory-coated shit I have ever seen. Bill and I have done irrotables on that.

That makes sense. Yeah. How many people listen to it couldn't tell you but it was special for us. It's a wildly boring film.

I did not select it but I had to mention it. It's the least of all the baseball movies. I've never understood it but the people that love it love the fuck

out of it. I think we now understand why. Yeah. There is a very specific it. Very specific appeal. Anyone have some Miyazaki thoughts that they'd like to share? How about you?

I don't. You don't. Mononoke is great. Not one of my personal favorites, but I know it's a big favorite for many hardcore fans. It's one for me for sure. I mean, it's like as good

as big epic fantasy storytelling gets, honestly. It's a masterpiece. Speaking of fantasy storytelling, let's go with 8mm. Yeah, there it is. Who's fantasy? The Machine.

Oh my God. Shout out to The Machine. Just incredible stuff. Nicolas Cage and Joaquin Phoenix. We did this also on Rewatchables. I bet also, maybe not the highest rated one ever, but it's still a great movie.

I'm just getting a note. That actually was the highest rated episode of all time. So congratulations to all who participated in the 8mm pod. Okay. And then I have Wild Card. I believe that's it. You don't want to say anything else

about 8mm. I mean, it's a sexually depraved blockbuster. That's what we miss. We miss this as a country. Make the movie star watch snuff movies and then get revenge. And that was literally what we had to as a country. It's like, make the movie star watch snuff movies and then get revenge. And that was literally what we had to watch in 1999.

Is 8mm the movie that broke Nick Cage and just made Nick Cage go, I want to make the weirdest shit. I think a lot of things broke Nick Cage. But this is definitely a harbinger of his erratic taste.

Right. I think it was when he went into massive debt after buying dinosaur bones. That was a challenging period. Takes a toll on a man. What about the mausoleum in New Orleans?

That also, that was a factor. That's dope when guys are just like, I am a vampire. Honestly, he's awesome. I have no notes on him as a person.

He's doing it incredibly well for years. Actually, the last time, was it the last time we conferred was in the Cage Hall of Fame? Very controversial. One of the times.

I have your back on that one. On what? On National Treasure. No, no, it's bad. No. That's a good movie. It was absolutely insane. You may have told me.

It was one of the dumbest things that's ever happened. National Treasure, by the way, when I was in Philly for WrestleMania, I got all inspired by National Treasure when I was in Philly for Wrestlemania I got all inspired by National Treasure and I tried to find

the National Treasure feeling in Philly yeah that stuff's in DC though well no they were they go to Philly

they go to Philly National Treasure yeah they go to the Liberty I thought it was the Constitution why try to take away Philadelphia's role

as like the original capital it's a globetrotting and by globetrotting I mean a couple states did you say they cucked out in New England Philly cucked out

they were like we're the birthplace of America and then they were like actually we're gonna pass it off they cucked out to D.C. did they not

wow I have to go back to some of the texts it's in National Treasure 3 I think. Oh, that story's dead. Wild card. Mallory's just scrolling the Academy website right now.

Bleak. It's fine. I've been on the media for the last five minutes. The Oscar winner is still here, as Sean predicted. It's just a question of whether I want to take any of them. Wild card. Chris, you're up. It's supposed to be wild.

Okay. You just took eight millimeter. What's that? In wild card, I'm going to take Bow of them. Wild card. Chris, you're up. It's supposed to be wild. Okay. It just took 8mm. What's that? In wild card, I'm going to take Bowfinger. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? It is.

Great one. Heather Graham back on the tape. That was a big Heather Graham. She never lost. You forgot your brain scan.

Because I was thinking about it because of the Steve Martin documentary anyway. And this is one of my favorite Steve Martin performances. Just an absolutely hilarious movie that I feel like has not really gotten much of a revival for whatever reason, and a great send-up of Hollywood. Wasn't it poorly marketed?

Wasn't Bowfinger a movie that they led you to believe was one thing, and then when you got there, it was a completely different thing? Better than what it was actually marketed to be? I think it took away from the movie a little bit i think it was similar to a couple of movies we've talked about like galaxy quest where when it came out people were like okay and then it came to home video and people were like this is my favorite movie this is good yeah chubby rain yeah incredible what's scarier than that okay i'm up as we all know i have left oscar nominee till the end and sean when you said at the beginning like a lot of the big headliners from that year's academy awards would go undrafted i thought surely not but i am in fact going to forgo selecting any of them in

favor of a personal passion okay if I have a chance in any podcast, doesn't even have to be a draft, doesn't have to be a big pick movie draft, to select anything involving Ralph Fiennes, I'll do it. And so for my Oscar nominee,

I will be selecting With Joy in My Heart and Fire in My Loins, The End of the Affair. The End of the Affair. Good pick. This was on my Oscar list. I love this movie.

I love this book. It's a beautiful and wrenching story. And it's an incredible Julianne Moore performance. Ralph Fiennes is, as always, just like sex given form. And this was also nominated, I believe, for cinematography, right, Sean? So we've got a couple noms here.

This is one of those movies when I think back, I often say on podcasts, and now Amanda and I are both like ratcheting up the frequency of how often we'll mention Witness until Bill lets us do a rewatch on it. So I've said before that Witness is the movie that taught me about sex, but this is like 1B. This is up there. Julianne Moore was always a fearless performer. Oh yeah, especially here.

I can know it. She goes for it. She's, yeah, unafraid. I love this movie. Since everyone has their Oscar nominee, is that right? Everyone has their Oscar nominee at this point? I don't.

He's going to select American Beauty. Well, why don nominee, is that right? Everyone has their Oscar nominee at this point? I don't. You don't have your... He's going to select American Beauty. Well, why don't you do that then? And then I'll read off the Oscar winners from this year. You're going to... Why don't you... You have to draft. It's not his pick yet.

Oh, it's... No, it's Joanna's pick. Oh, it's Joanna. Okay. And then your pick. And then... This is the one where I'm voting with my heart. Not necessarily the most popular pick,

but this is a perfect film. You cannot fight it on streaming, much like Dogma, but it is drop-dead gorgeous. I love that. Just watch this on a plane. It's an incredible movie. Again,

great Kirsten Dunst performance. The only good Denise Richards performance. Kirstie Alley going really for it. Ellen Barkin. It's a perfect movie it's really really funny dry as a bone really good

I hadn't realized it's not available on streaming it's not but you can can you rent it no really

what's going on there but it was on a plane I flew Delta two weeks ago and I fired it up wow I only made it through 40 minutes of it

because my toddler was crying but otherwise it was good enjoyed it alright so I have a wild card definitely plenty of movies left on the board that I like yeah there's a lot

I think the most 1999 movie that I could take is Run Lolo Run extremely 1999 is this going to be the Sean I'm going to name movies that I could take no I'm taking Run Lolo Run Tom Tickford's Breakout movie starring Franco Potente to name movies that i could take no i'm no i'm taking a little run um tom ticker's breakout movie starring franco patente that was is unlike any other movie i had seen up until that point yeah it was a movie about like um a woman having a very short period of time to get

an amount of money that her boyfriend owes gangsters i believe is the premise right but one of the cool things that the movie does is it shows you in a kind of choose your own adventure fashion what happens what could happen if she does a certain thing in the telling of the story so you see her go down one door

and then it shows us what could happen if she chose to enter that door and instead she pivots back and goes into another door very tight like 80 minute movie incredibly propulsive

40% of it is just Franco Patente running and 100% of it is just franco patente running and 100 of it is german techno so much techno some some rammstein going on in there uh but just like really fun really like um euro independent influencing the way that american action movies will look in fact tom tickfer and the wachowskis who made the matrix this year would go on to collaborate on movies in the future. And just a really, really fun movie. Very similar to Go. Very similar to a couple of other movies that had that same energy.

Obviously, Bled into Bourne. Right. That kind of madcap handheld. And Alias. But that was one of those posters that people would have to make a statement. Yeah. And also, there's just such an odd blend of there's animation sequences there's also this whole bit with polaroids where you're like following the the like fates of

various people that she like bumps into and whether or not she bumps into them or not their entire fate changes you see it via like a series of polaroids it's very fun a movie i didn't want to like but you did of. What won you over? I don't know. It was just good. It's engrossing. It is incredibly engrossing. It just goes. It's a movie that when you're sitting around and you're talking to the film bros from where you are,

they go, dude, have you seen fucking Infernal Affairs? You go, no. And they go, dude, have you seen fucking Run, Lola, Run? I'm like, I'm not watching that shit. And then you get filled up with curiosity and then you watch infernal affairs and run low the run you go fuck these are good movies but it's seagull lane theater baton rouge i had to go see it it's really good she pops up in born and i'm like oh there you go well it's your turn to draft now. American Beauty. Now, are you kidding me?

Yeah, in Oscar. First of all. Make the case. Watch the movie. Touched by it when I was 19 or whenever it was that I saw the film. And I think because suburban angst and I just started to see my parents get to this point that I'm at now where they realize that their lives are pretty meaningless.

You know what I mean? It's funny watching someone get to a point. You're at that point now? Yeah. Okay. Are you? No, I've just found meaning in my life on this pod. With those 4,000 guys.

Exactly. Exactly. But no, the, like the, and so when I watched the movie, like I could see, and obviously it's,

there's a lot of hooptie duptie to it. And it's very fanciful in a way it tells a story, but I could see like the actual angst in the people. Like my parents are trying to build this brand new big house out in Zachary and they think this is going to be the end of their lives and it's going to make everything real and then every

sort of thing that they try to do is met with this little disappointment of not being fulfilled and doing what it is that they really don't do. So they start fucking around and doing all of this stuff. I like connect it to the movie. Can a movie be true and bad? I think is an interesting question.

Probably, but I don't see, so where's American Beauty bad? What am I missing? I have a follow-up question for you. Sure. To quote the philosopher Katy Perry, do you ever feel like a plastic bag? Jesus Christ.

You feel like there's so much beauty in the world you could just burst? But let me just ask. But I'll be honest with you, all of that stuff. That's good, you guys are. But I'll be honest with you. All of that stuff. You guys are ready. That's a good one too. All of that stuff is kind of to me supposed to be absurd.

I think all of that stuff is supposed to be almost lampooning the sort of absurdity of the well-to-do white suburban person who doesn't face the same type of problems that maybe I faced in my youth and is making up meaning out of a plastic bag and why somebody would think that's so profound. To me, the movie is like actually indicting that a little bit. I think that's a very fair reading when you look at Six Feet Under and True Blood

and think about what Alan Ball's point of view is. I think it's complicated by the fact that Sam Mendes is the opposite. That he makes a lot of movies that are incredibly emotionally like maudlin and overly sincere. And so you have this major clash of the two authors of the movie.

And I tend to lean towards like Sam Mendes kind of grabbed control of that movie and showed us something that is not broadly satirical enough. That feels a little bit too close to like, man, it is hard to be 43 and to have 2.5 children and to want to have sex with a high school teenager. You know, like that's like it takes itself very, very seriously in a way that a lot of the Alan Ball stuff in the future doesn't. And that's why people hold that against it. I do. I feel like Annette Bening knows the correct tone of this movie.

And yet she doesn't win. The only ones that would not win. Annette does not win. So, okay. With that in mind, let's just play a quick game. Can anyone name the five Best Picture nominees? Cider House Rules.

Cider House Rules. Green Mile. Green Mile. American Beauty. American Beauty. The Hurricane. Sixth Sense. The Sixth Sense. The Insider. The Insider. That's the five. Interesting five. rules green mile green mile american beauty american beauty the hurricane six cents yeah six cents insider the insider that's the five interesting five from this hallowed year a few classics a few completely forgettable movies good night you princes of new england no one

let's talk about cider house rules for one second i'm assuming no one's going to take it with the last couple of picks here um Michael Caine, who won, who is, of course, a world historic treasure, did not need to win his second Academy Award over Tom Cruise. I'm just going to put that out there. Wild shit.

Or Jude Law. Correct. Or Jude Law, which is also bad, though not as, is more defensible to me because Jude Law was younger. Maybe if they had huffed

Laudanum in their movies, they would have won. Also, Haley Joel Osment, I would have given it to over Michael Caine. Sure, yeah. Who's just doing avuncular Michael Caine things.

Totally agree. That's just the one that is stuck in my craw. I don't think the Academy was ready to award Tom yet and I don't know why. They're still not. I'm with the Annette Bening losses.

Well, I mean, you know, then we just have to, we have to, 25 years of not. Do it again. You know? And she's still not getting it. It's also the first of two consecutive Hilary Swank Best Actress awards as well.

Because she won for Boys Don't Cry. Did she get nominated for that Mike Mills movie? I don't know. 20th Century Women? Yeah. I don't think so. That's my favorite. Yeah.

Great movie. Swank had a little thing, right? Yeah. Nobody, we haven't even talked about Boys don't cry the entire I guess haven't talked about boys don't cry might be okay if we don't I didn't revisit it I'm trying to see if

girl interrupted this year yeah interrupted as well yeah Angelina Jolie won best actress right for her but that's supporting the hurricane there are two picks left still so I guess we

shouldn't just let's do those you've got a pick yeah I'm gonna, in wild card, I'm going to take Perfect Blue. Have you all seen this movie? Oh, yeah. Non-animated people definitely have not seen it. So American Pie is going to go undrafted today.

I haven't picked yet. Amanda's got one pick left on the board. Let's not stomp on Satoshi Kon. Come on. I'm just astonished. Continue. Sorry. Just maybe the most fucked up and scariest movie of this year about

basically like a pop idol who tries to become an actress and gets stalked to the point of losing her fucking mind a really creepy movie really scary movie unfortunately also very pertinent about stan culture in 2024 if you haven't seen this movie you should definitely check it out it's probably one of the scariest animated things you're going to find. Okay, Amanda. Last pick. You taking Big Daddy? For a while there, I thought that Sofia Coppola had once said that Big Daddy was one of her favorite movies. But it's actually Daddy's Home.

So I didn't revisit Big Daddy. Yeah. Big Daddy is, you know. You're the best your dedication to Sophia is amazing that you were like well listen you gotta work all the angles

yeah of these things yeah but didn't even take virgin suicides in this draft I would rewatch it I would watch a remake

of Big Daddy starring Chris Ryan and my son I think that that would be really maybe that's just you know most Saturday nights

we could just photoshop you guys does that mean that your husband dies what are the circumstances of big daddy i forget okay you know so he would be acting he goes to uh then he had sex with somebody in toronto and then he thinks that that's the mother is it john stewart john stewart ends up john stewart of the kid yeah i think you're thinking of American Pie there. But yeah, go ahead. I'm pro Big Daddy.

Same. Yeah, I'm not anti-Big Daddy. I'm not going to take it. I'm going to do The Best Man, which is a delightful, to me, very melodramatic, fun college reunion film featuring a stacked cast. And I think the Regina Hall debut. Yep.

Functionally, if not actually. Also sets up the best man holiday which is the most I've cried at the movies in a very long time with my with my dad. That was one of the

good Christmas theater experiences. Anyway best man under under seen I think Tate Diggs in this movie wrote like writing if I did it but about sleeping with

his best friend's girlfriend. Really good. Wild. Really good. Such a great film. We did it, but about sleeping with his best friend's girlfriend. He's wild. Really good. Such a great film. We did it. Honorable mentions.

It is weird that no one drafted American Pie, right? Would you like to take American Pie right now and I'll take 10 Things I Hate About You from you? I'm content. I am content with my choices. I'm just surprised that no one picked that. It's too highbrow. No one here at the big picture.

The tongue tornado is too highbrow. No one here at the big picture The tongue tornado is too highbrow. No one here at the big picture is going to take a movie where the guy fucks the pie even though everyone loved it. No, that's not true. Not only

would somebody take the movie where someone fucked the pie they would compare it to like oh, clearly inspired by Philip Roth's Portnoy's Complaint

I Fought My Family's Dinner That's how it would go. And that's what I would have said if I was an entire 90 minute pod of me, Chris and Bill, talking about the American Pie. I am not above American Pie. And at the time, I was like, we back.

We are here. Definitely at the time. This is a tremendous teen movie here. She's All That is like the one that didn't get drafted, but is very important. If only to Sixpence and on the Richers, bottom line. Also, Never Been Kissed, Undrafted.

Yeah. Great movie. Have you? Has anyone gone back and seen Never Been Kissed? I watch it every week. Once a week. And you're like,

Michael Martin knows what he's talking about. It's a movie about a 30-year-old going to high school, which is a little strange. Right, and then falling in love

with her teacher. Oh, no. She's all that. When we did Never Been Kiss kissed for 1999 rewatchables it was me bill and juliet when we all got around the table and we were just like so this is an interesting choice now that we've rewatched it huh you were like yeah when we watched it when we were younger we're like it's so romantic he sees her for who she really is and

then you're like no he wants to fuck his teenage student. You remember the movie Hiding Out where John Cryer hides out in the high school and falls out, falls in love with a high school student. He's supposed to be like 30 years old. Remember that? No. You guys never saw that? That's the first time you've ever asked me if I remember a movie and I wasn't on your And you didn't really know.

Yeah. 80s. Shout out John Cryer. Never Been Kissed is like, let's take the premise of American Beauty, which we all agree is creepy, and try to make it a lighthearted Drew Barrymore rom-com. It's not what you want.

What else do we not want? Shout out to Ed TV. Ed TV is so fun. Never seen it. Oh, we're just doing stuff we missed? Just honorable mentions. Ed TV got swallowed by the Truman Show, but Ed TV is really good.

But it has Jen Elfman in it. Two much maligned, I think much maligned i think much maligned new york movies from great new york filmmakers summer of sam from spike and bringing out the dead from i was really surprised that like neither of you picked bringing out i think bringing out the dead was like good i wanted it so bad it hurt you know and then when i saw it i was like this isn't it um it's so I feel like it's so close it's really close

it's really on the edge of being great when the clash is playing and they're driving around I'm like I'm fucking right here with you it's always been a little

come up a little short for me too it's one of those things you have to project a lot on to make it stick together I also love 200 Cigarettes this year wow look at all these

goddamn movies there's a ton of stuff what about the beginning of the Analyze franchise? At the time, I was like, that to me is cinema. That is a very, very funny movie. And you know who wrote Analyze? My parents thought that was so funny. Kenneth Lonergan.

Did you guys ever see the Michelle Pfeiffer, I Found My Son After Years, Deep End of the Ocean? Deep End of the Ocean, yes. Saw that in theaters with my mom. Of course. That's a bomb-ass movie, yeah. Really good. Baby that in theaters with my mom. Of course. That's a bomb ass movie. Really good. Baby Genius.

I'm just joking. Lake Placid though. I do love Lake Placid. Bats. Did you guys see Bats? It's about a movie where people are tortured by bats. There's a James Bond movie this year

that we've only like glancingly mentioned. The World is Not Enough. The World is Not Enough. Idle Hands. Christmas Jones. Here are the actually great movies from the year that we didn't talk about.

Elmo Dovar's All About My Mother came out this year, which was Oscar nominated. This was kind of his Oscar breakthrough. I don't think he had been recognized before that. Mike Lee's Topsy Turvy, maybe the best movie that was undrafted here today, if you haven't seen that,

about theater troupe putting on the Mikado. Incredible, incredible movie. It's a Woody Allen movie this year, Sweet and Lowdown, that was undrafted here today if you haven't seen that about Theater Troop putting on the Mikado. Yeah. Incredible, incredible movie. It's a Woody Allen movie this year, Sweet and Lowdown. Oh yeah.

Which was kind of a big deal at the time. Super nominated. Sean Penn and Samantha Morton. That's Django Reinhardt, right? That's right. Tim Robbins' Cradle Will Rock.

I kind of love that movie when I saw it. It's a really good movie. I really like that movie. Titus, Julie Taymor's adaptation of Titus Andronicus. Sure.

Which was really, really good but I'm a cheerleader and Natasha Leone Natasha Leone yeah I would have put that in that's her

comedy if I hadn't gotten dropped out My Beloved Clint Eastwood's True Crime mm-hmm you guys seen that one yep I had that wrecked

Cookie's Fortune from Robert Altman Rat Catcher Lynn Ramsey's movie two movies that I always confuse for one another Mystery Alaska and Outside one another Mystery Alaska and Outside Providence

Mystery Alaska is without irony my favorite sports movie I can't believe I didn't take a broke down pal yeah Russell Crowe I don't even think

this movie I enjoyed it that much but like every time anyone asks me to carry anything well that's you know

if someone's asking you to carry something through security that's a red flag in a lot of ways the TSA jumped all over but I yeah

I think about this one a lot is Jawbreaker a 90-billion dollar movie yeah it is sure it is oh my god there were a lot of movies this year

Sleepy Hollow Sleepy Hollow someone could have taken Sleepy Hollow in Oscars it was on my long list for Oscars yeah

I love Lake Placid Lake Placid's great Lake Placid's fun I love yeah I love Lake Placid Lake Placid's great Lake Placid's fun I love the crew in Lake Placid and in particular Oliver Platt is he a professor

that's obsessed with the mythology of crocodiles incredible stuff Among Us October Sky that's right all of these movies

you don't like October Sky not as good as I wanted to be I had never seen it and I just watched it this weekend that's definitely the better of the Chris Cooper as Gruff father movies

of 1999 for sure. You know what's a good thriller? Stir of Echoes. Yeah. Kevin Bacon. David Kett movie. Stuart Little. Stigmata.

It's October Sky, yeah. It's October Sky where they were trying to build the rockets. Yeah. It's about the real dude Homer or something. Yeah.

Homer Hickam. Homer Hickam. Deuce Bigelow, Mel Gigolo. I have that on here. Payback. I saw it in theaters. Pay Hickam. Homer Hickam. Deuce Bigelow, Mel Gigolo. I have that on here. Payback. Payback, yeah. The Mel Gibson movie. Yep.

Anywhere but here. Mm-hmm. Is that probably a Portman fan? Susan Sarandon, Natalie Portman. That's a Mona Simpson book, right? Yeah.

Where are you on Man on the Moon? I unequivocally love it. Not to be confused. And it was number three on my drama list. Number three? Yeah. Really? Yeah, and I think Jim Carrey is completely misunderstood. equivocally love it and it was number three on my drama list um and three yeah really yeah and i think jim carrey is completely misunderstood i'm holding to that and i think i think why did you

not mention his efforts to go serious who have been punished so intensely that he has to play dr robotnik non-stop until he dies it felt like it's not that time yeah it felt like at the time because i you know wasn't a fully formed film brain at the time, but I still could feel the whiff, the swing and the miss. Like, not from the movie itself, but I had a concept of how important this was for him and how important it was to him.

And the fact that he didn't get there, I could feel the wind coming out of his sails. The sweatiness. Yeah, how much he wanted it. Like, he was just i i never said like shit this is jim carrey he's going for it right he the truman show and the whole thing he's he's inching up there and i feel like everything is different if that movie wins four oscars nobody does eternal sunshine after that yeah but even still then like that's

a big deal but that's almost like a he was going for the next level of it. Have you seen Jim and Andy, the documentary about? I haven't. Has anyone here seen Jim and Andy? So one of the best movies of 1999 is American Movie, which is a documentary about a group of guys in Wisconsin who are trying to make an independent horror movie. One guy in particular working with his partner. And it's just like a shattering, beautiful, hilarious portrait of people trying and failing to do something. I highly recommend you watch it.

But Chris Smith, the documentarian who made American Movie, also made a movie, I want to say maybe eight, nine years ago, called Jim and Andy, which is effectively just an archival documentary with one long interview with Jim Carrey, where he talks about staying in character for the entire production of Man on the Moon to be Andy Kaufman and what it was like to be him and to watch people interact with him. And it's a fascinating, bizarre, kind of sad portrait of a person like kind of losing their mind to do something that they think is an artistic leap. Like you make a big pick? Sometimes I do feel like

the Andy Kaufman of this show. This year, yeah. But we're like in the era now where all biopics are rewarded and I feel like if he had made that movie 10 years later, it would have been considered differently. It's a mean old shvormin.

Like it's not some dude. It's one of the best directors of all time. Jim Carrey should have made a Bob Marley biopic. Here we go. I just want to shout out an underrated entry into the Diane Lane is going to fuck a stranger category, which is A Walk on the Moon. Or Viggo Mortensen plays the blouse man. Great stuff.

We forgot about Deep Blue Sea. While we're talking about hot people, we should mention Random Hearts. Should have been Oscar nominated. Best original song. Deepest Lewis. My head is like a shark's fin. LL. Incredible stuff.

Big LL year, honestly. Saffron Burrows Teaching Mrs. Tingle Yeah Kevin Williams Yeah Just cashing out on the scream check Yeah Wait this is a guy from the faculty

Oh and scream Ravenous Oh Is this the eating people movie Yeah Oh yeah Fucking A That movie right there is my shit

Yeah It's messed up Top 5 cannibal films Have you seen that I've seen it They eat people And then they get super. Yeah. It's messed up. Top five cannibal films. Have you seen that? I've seen it. They eat people and then they get superpowers? Yeah. Yeah.

That's how I feel. I fucking love that movie. I say if you left her a pod. Protein powder and yogurt. I feel like that. Should I keep going through movie titles? Yeah. Why not?

Let's see if I have any. Why not now? End of Days. The Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. This is kind of the end of Arnold Schwarzenegger as we knew him. Yeah. Well, he's trying to... He takes...

What's the lady from The Covenant? Robin Tunney. Robin Tunney. He's trying to save her. She's like... That's what kind of baby is in the end of the world. Yeah, it's Satan. It's Satan that's trying to take her over.

Yeah. And then who plays Satan in that? Gabriel Byrne. Gabriel Byrne, yeah. He stays playing either priests or Satan. Following Christopher Nolan's first film, debuted at Sundance. Were you there? he stays playing either Priest or Satan following Christopher Nolan's first film

debuted at Sundance were you there I was I was crying in the front row thank you sir may I have another thou hath arrived maybe it wasn't Sundance

because Memento was Sundance right maybe that's what I'm thinking of let me see if I have anything else anybody Buena Vista Social Club

Vin Vendor's documentary Buena Vista Social Club every mom Vendor's documentary. Buena Vista Social Club, every mom I knew had that soundtrack. Still does. Yeah. Yeah. One for our number one

wrestling correspondent, Van Lathan, Beyond the Mat. Oh, that's great. Revelatory film about how professional wrestling actually works

and the toll it takes on its performers. There were some great under the radar wrestling docs. Just trying to annoy Amanda at this point. In 1990. You don the radar wrestling guys. Just trying to annoy Amanda at this point. In 1990. You don't like wrestling?

Amanda just wants to be done with this podcast. She wants to go to the sandwich. Amanda has been done with this podcast. But what I can do is vamp about

the bone collectors. You have a cool five for three hours ago for vamping. Yeah. That's my strategy. And now Sean's just like reading lists of movies

which is what he does on every podcast you guys want to wrap this up let's do it I feel like we really did it you gonna recap everyone's teams Mallory has it all

gridded out double jeopardy you guys see driving me crazy double jeopardy being in the top blockbusters for that year wild her power Ashley Judd Entrapment me crazy. Double Jeopardy being in the top blockbusters for

that year. Wild. Her power. Ashley Judd. Entrapment. Catherine Zeta-Jones and Sean Connery. Catherine Zeta-Jones

and a beam of red light I think is what you mean. Double Jeopardy really feels like a blockbuster movie. Like you can imagine walking past the

cover. Yeah. Can't you feel it? Yeah. I do feel it. That's probably how I learned about the concept. You know? Without question. Why don't we recap? That's probably how I learned about the concept, you know?

Without question. Yeah. We're going to recap in draft order. So Amanda, you're going to go first. What are your six films? Well, I don't have my dock open yet, so I'm not going to. There you go. Why do you have dark?

I don't like dark mode. Okay. For my eye integrity. And well-being. What category? Please tweet at Mallory Rubin to go to the optometrist. Thank you so much. Okay, no, I'm just saying. I'm sorry that I vamped for so long with movie titles

and we could not. Yeah, Mallory's mom emails me about the optometrist and the dentist, I think. I'll stall. I also don't like going to the dentist and I don't believe in dentistry. Don't believe in dentistry? Well, preventative dentistry is, I think, a fraud.

I mean, a fraud. I mean, definitely more than 10, but mostly because my mother marched me. I've been three times. And most of the time, they're just like, oh no, you're using your teeth. I've been to the dentist three times in my entire life. I thought you said you don't identify with the British. What's going on? Three times in my

whole life, I've been to the dentist. If you have a pain or an issue I think they can solve it but I think the rest of it is like you know just a money making scheme anyway

we're going in chronological order of the rounds we took our picks it doesn't matter just recap Amanda Donnerful yep

okay in drama I have cruel intentions in action thriller horror I have the Thomas Crown Affair 1999 drama, I have Cruel Intentions. In action thriller horror, I have The Thomas Crown Affair, 1999. In comedy, I have Dick, fan. In blockbuster, I have Austin Powers, The Spy Who Shagged Me. In Oscar nominee, I have The Talented Mr. Ripley, the number one pick. And in wildcard, I have The Best Man.

What a zany little group of movies that is. Wild. Thanks so much. That's alive. Rob Mahoney. Yeah. In drama, I have The Straight Story. In comedy, I have Notting Hill. In Oscar, I have Election.

In action horror thriller, I have Existenz. In Blockbuster, I have The Matrix. In wildcard, I have Perfect Blue. Van Lathan. In action thriller horror, I have Fight Club. In comedy, I have Farsity Blues. Oscar movies, I have the unimpeachable classic American Beauty. In wild card, I have Dogma.

In blockbuster, I have Star Wars Episode I, The Phantom Menace. And in drama, I have Arlington Road. Okay. I'm excited to recap the Film Bro Starter Pack that I've selected. In drama, I have The Limey. In action thriller horror, I have Eyes Wide Shut. In comedy, I have South Park, Bigger, Longer, and Uncut. In blockbuster, I have The Sixth Sense.

In Oscar nominee, I have Being John Malkovich. And in wildcard, I have Run, Lola, Run. Joanna? In drama, I have Three Kings. In comedy, I have Drop Dead Gorgeous. In action, thriller, horror, I have Galaxy Quest. In blockbuster, I have Three Kings. In comedy, I have Drop Dead Gorgeous. In action, thriller, horror, I have Galaxy Quest. In blockbuster, I have The Mummy. In Oscar nom, I have Magnolia.

In wildcard, I have Iron Giant. Mallory Rubin. In comedy, I selected Office Space. In blockbuster, I selected Toy Story 2. In action, thriller, horror, to Christopher's dismay, I selected Toy Story 2. In Action, Thriller, Horror to Christopher's Dismay, I selected Lockstock. That was tough. Wild Card, I selected 10 Things I Hate About You.

Drama, Princess Mononoke, and Oscar nominee. The end of the affair. CR, wrap it up. In Drama, I got Any Given Sunday. In Action, Horror, Thriller, I got 8mm. In drama, I got Any Given Sunday. In action horror thriller, I got 8mm. In comedy, I got Go. In blockbuster, I

took Blair Witch Project. In Oscar nominee, I took The Insider. And in wild card, I drafted Bowfinger. That's a real ringer line up

right there. This draft is wild. Does everyone feel good? Yeah. It's really good. Yeah, this was fun. There were enough

films to support this project so I'm glad we did it this way. We left movies off. More than. I'll take Almodovar. I love Almodovar. Next time I'll have to. Okay, so

this is where you can find everyone on this podcast on Ringer NBA Group Chat and the Prestige TV podcast Rob Mahoney. House of R the Prestige TV podcast Trial by Content

Joanna Robinson on Higher Learning and the Midnight Boys Van Lathan and the Rewatchables sometimes Rewatchables yeah on the big picture

hey what's up Amanda also Jam Session what other pods do you have I mean that's the main two okay on House of R Mallory Rubin Watch

that's is that still on I am now like three hours late to recording the watch. I have to go record the watch right now. Do you want to get up

like you may have scored? Kaya got here before we started recording. I did call Kaya. I was like, I think I may have, I may have underestimated how long this will take.

So she, she knew. What is, can you get Andy to talk on the episode about how he feels about getting pushed two hours by this pod?

I definitely will. Okay. I look forward to that. I will let him talk about Bluey for like 40 minutes today. Oh yeah. I'll fuck with Bluey. This is your Shogun

episode nine episode, right? No. This is just me and Andy catching up after a weekend of culture. Thank God. There was a critical episode of Bluey.

It was the finale? Well, there's speculation that it's done because of the magnitude of the episode. Can't weigh in on that otherwise. I do some other

shows by the way. You know the Parker Tiles show. Yeah. But that's not that's not true. That ropers. No I just mean like

I produce it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Anything else that you want to I sometimes appear on the rewatch with the metal draft. I the metal draft is coming. Yeah. When is it this week? When's the draft draft? The medal draft is coming this week. Oh, when is it?

Oh, is it this week? When's the draft? My favorite annual tradition. Next Thursday. Next week. Next week. Oh, sorry, Corey. What's the medal draft?

You don't know about this? No. He plays Satan or something. No, I play a demon inside of Danny Kelly's hard drive. It really needs to be seen to be believed. Crush and prospecting. Yeah, talking about where did Danny go. And he doesn't like cilantro.

And... We've potted through the pandemic, me and Danny Kelly, we've met each other twice in real life. But we make this every year. We make a video where I am a demon inside of his hard drive, drafting an anthem.

Do the metal draft voice. No. Do it about Caleb Williams right now. You will love it. I have the pleasure of telling Chris he has done six of these we've made six of them six this is the sixth

Danny's just coming in and he's like Brock Bauer's a very impressive tight end prospect coming out of and then Chris enters

and it's also so it's like a it's like a a metal like heavy metal it's actually it's all Corey's visuals

so can you can you do an impression of his I have to preserve my vocal cords so unfortunately I cannot do that better than your awesome powers impression all Corey's visuals. Can you do an impression of his demon voice? I have to preserve my vocal cords

so unfortunately I cannot do that. Better than your Austin Powers impression? Should I do a real Austin Powers? I would love that. Take us out.

Should I just do the Bobby thank you in the Austin Powers voice? Thank you to our producer Bobby Wagner for his work on this episode. Do I make you horny?

Randy! Wagner for his work on this episode. Do I make you horny? Randy. See you later this week. you