The Big Picture - The 2000 Movie Mega-Draft

Episode Date: June 4, 2025

We are drafting again! Sean and Amanda are joined by several Ringer all-stars for a mega-draft of the best movies from 2000. The Big Picture will be live in Chicago on July 21! Tickets go on sale Wednesday, June 4 at 12p CT. Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guests: Chris Ryan, Van Lathan, Mallory Rubin, Joanna Robinson, Rob Mahoney, and Bobby Wagner Producer: Jack Sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, big picture listeners. In case you didn't hear, we're headed to Chicago for a live show at the Steppenwolf Theater on Monday, July 21st. We couldn't be more excited. If you'd like to join us, this is a friendly reminder that tickets go on sale tomorrow, Wednesday, June 4th, at 12 p.m. Central Time. We hope to see you there. Hi there, I'm Ryan Reynolds and I have a list of things I like to have on set. It's just little things like two freshly cracked eggs scrambled with crispy hash browns, sausage crumble, and creamy Chipotle sauce from Tim Hortons. From my rider to Tim's menu, try my new scrambled eggs loaded breakfast box. Wendy's most important deal of the day has a fresh lineup.

Pick any two breakfast items for $5. New four-piece french toast sticks, bacon sausage wrap English muffin sandwiches value iced coffee and more Limited time only a participating Wendy's taxes extra I'm Sean fantasy. I'm Amanda Dobbin. This is the big picture a conversation show about 2000 or as Conan O'Brien would say, in the year 2000. CR is here. We are drafting again. Who would sing it though? Who would sing it? I don't know. Who says that? In the year 2000. That's what they do, right? Yeah. Come on. You wanted to bring energy to this podcast. Bring it. Okay. I'm relying on our special friends to bring the energy on this podcast today. We have reconvened a septet, what's seven people? The High Council of Cinema?

A septet. This is one year later, one year ago, we did the 1999 movie draft. That was a year ago? That was a year ago? Was it a year ago in June? It is June. Do I know, but was it last June?

We're off to a great start. I believe it was June. Was it not June? In're off to a great start. I believe it was June. Was it not June? In the erstwhile Bill Simmons studio. Yeah, why are you, what? I just didn't know what was happening. You're good, you're good. Okay.

Rob Mahoney is here, Joanna Robinson is here, Mallory Rubin is here, Van Lathen is here, Amanda Dobbins is here, CR is here, I'm here. We're talking about 2000, 1999, who won that draft? I thought I did. Joanna won. Okay. Yeah, according to which-

Yeah, was there- The voting system. Did we have a vote? Yeah, I won, Van got second, Mallory got third. Whoa. The ringer vs. crew ran the board. I don't know about that. Okay.

That's been held over our head ever since, so. Well, I think you've won the last 19 House of Our Hype drafts. Yeah. That's true. That's true. Turn about. That's probably true. And we thought maybe I won Tom Cruise, right?

We didn't think that. No, it wasn't. You looked at the subreddit dedicated to you and came to that conclusion. That's not what happened. I just thought I got a vibe from people. Everybody was like, who did win that, Bill? Damn, Chris crushed it.

We did vote, but we didn't get results. I think the scuttlebutt was Bill. Well, I think you know bill was kind of putting that out into the universe He was he was come back to it. He did have the turn which he thought was bad It was actually good. We were right. We did give him a couple of breaks. Um Who will win today? I don't know not me. I'll be finishing last. Okay. Yeah, I've been hearing from people Prerecord that this is very much a vibes Draft for a lot of people. Okay. is that because we don't like the movies? Let's have that conversation.

Let's do it. 2000, who we were, what movies were. It's not as good as 99. It's definitely not. 99 needed seven people because it was such a powerful movie year. 2000, little bit of a hangover. And yet you've added a category,

so we will be selecting more movies. Well, maybe I'll remove a category while we're doing this, but we'll see. Hell no. No? You wanna do all seven? We must forge ahead. Okay. Now, when I was, it was actually sobering

to see the amount of movies that I was just kinda like, ah, it's a very TNT on a Sunday afternoon movie. It is, yeah. That's the vibe. It is. Very much. It is That's the vibe. It is. It is before the basketball game cinema. Yeah. Before the basketball game.

99 was easy because in addition to there being, you know, whatever, 15 out now classics, the next 30 movies were also a lot of fun, a lot of personal favorites. I think there's a pretty strong upper tier in 2000. Definitely. Once we get into the B tier, it'll be interesting. It's a little outside the general Amanda zone,

I would say, some of the all time classics. I think Dobbins is gonna thrive in the later rounds. Listen, please don't put anything out there, okay? You know, I do have a strategy. I said to Chris before we started, I did some prep, but we might be winging it a little bit. I'm trying- We. Me? Yeah. Yeah, the Royal. The Royal we. We did some prep, but we might be winging it a little bit. I'm trying...

We. Me. Yeah. Yeah, the royal. The royal we. Yeah, sure. But, you know, I don't know if I think the top tier is as strong as other years, and then the rest of it is weird.

So you have to go searching for value. Okay. Rob, I'd like to start with you. The year 2000, who were you? What was your relationship to movies? I was 11 years old. Very important year for me. It was the year I got really into Green Day.

Oh, hell yeah. Wow. So I would say it was the year that like my taste as a person started to develop outside of my family for the first time. Is that Warning? What is, was that American Idiot? I got really into Nimrod.

Nimrod. And it was the album. I don't even know if that was the newest one, but I went camping and a dude was playing Time of Your Life on an acoustic guitar. And I was like, that's what I want. Yeah, your set. Is that Hitchin' a Ride?

What was the, what else is on that album? Green Day draft? Nimrod's kinda when I jumped out. Nice Guys Finished Last I think is on that one. It's a banger of an album, but I would say it applies just as much to movies. This is me finding some stuff that I'm into, that my parents aren't into,

that my friends aren't necessarily into, that my brother's not handing off to me. I'm trying to find my stuff at this time. Jo? I was in college, I was working at a movie theater this year. This is the one only year I worked at a movie theater. Learned how to clean the butter machine among- That's an Amazon show.

Wow. Yeah. The one only year I worked at a movie theater. You really to clean the butter machine among the many other things. That's an Amazon show. Wow. Yeah. The one only year I worked at a movie theater. You really are at your creative peak right now. Yeah, like that production fan. Yeah, opportunity everywhere. That's a great little summer thing there. I like that.

Were you seeing a new movie every day? Yeah, and a lot of them, I've seen the end of a lot of these movies so many times. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because you just walk in with your like, your broom and your bucket waiting to clear up the people's popcorn and you watch the end of Almost Famous 900 times.

Okay, but did you see the beginning as well or no? Yes. Okay. So, can I ask, sorry, raising my hand. What is the, I'm channeling 2000 Amanda, what is the etiquette and like, how many movies do you get to see a day, like in full when you're working at a movie theater?

How are you scheduling? If you're on shift, you don't see any in full while you're on shift, but you can see unlimited when you're not working. But is that kind of like a lifeguard doesn't want to go swimming after a shift? Like, did you want to get out of the movie theater? No.

Yeah. So would you go early or of the movie theater? No. Oh. Yeah. So would you go early or would you stay late? I had the closing shift a lot, cause I was also in school. And so I had the closing shift a lot. But like on my days off, I would just go to the movies all the time.

This is the show. Okay. I told you. So, it's a love story. Sure. Between you. And cinema. And cinema.

And a young cinephile. Every time you go in to the clean the movies up at the end, there is a young black. It's our story. A young black kid who's sitting there, he's watching all of these movies because he's running away from a fraught home life.

He's explaining the movies to you because you can't afford and don't have the time to see them at any other time. You guys just love blossoms over film and that's the entire film. Jungle fever meets cinema paradiso. Jungle fever, cinema paradiso. A little adventure land in there, I feel like. Little bit. Who's the black Kristen Stewart?

You know, like, how are we doing this thing? Here's a key factor. In order to win my heart, this person needs to not just leave their trash all over the ground. He helps you clean up. What's the vibe on that in general these days? Do you guys pick up your stuff at the end of your day? I pick up all my stuff.

Yes! Yeah, of course. I'm just asking. Why are you asking? While we're at it, take your shopping cart back to the little shopping cart holder. It's a gift. In the parking lot.

Oh, I know you guys have heard the Code 50 story, right? If you- Pivoted away from movie theaters very quickly with that. If you do one thing, help the Code 50 at wherever you are by taking your shopping cart back. It is a grueling job in the summer. I was a Walmart code 50 for an entire summer. So you go around the parking lot, you grab the carts.

On a Saturday in Baton Rouge, it's 95 degrees and you get all the carts, they're lined up like little ducks in a row and all of a sudden, five minutes later, they're all over the place. It's a never-ending job. What if, let's just say hypothetically, a person has an insane screaming toddler, and you need to get them out of the cart and into the car

and get out of the parking lot as quickly as possible. Is there an allowance for not returning the cart to the space where they belong in that instance? I've been there. It is tough. I think you gotta keep the toddler in the cart, park the cart, and then carry the toddler back. Are y'all looking for permission or forgiveness?

I'm just speaking hypothetically. Sure, sure, sure. He wants to know when he witnesses behavior like this. How can I? Another thing that you could do is that if you are parking your car and you see someone having the issue that Sean or I may hypothetically be having, you take the car back on your way.

Can I make another suggestion? Sure. Live a more continental lifestyle and only buy food for the meal that's next. Wow. Like kind of like the Italian or French style stopping by the market on the way home from. Chris does not shop at Costco.

And then why don't you just bring it on over to my house when you're done shopping for yourself. I don't have children and I don't cook, so I can't comment. Can I put one more button on this movie theater thing? Yes. Which is that it's not on our list, but I believe, my memory serves, there was an Exorcist re-release this year and it made people very ill in the cinema. Oh. That is something that we had to deal with. Oh no. That sucks. Oh, whoa. this year and it made people very ill in the cinema. That is something that we had to deal with.

Oh no. That sucks. Whoa. You were mopping? Did you hold a mop? That's terrible. Yes. Okay. That's gross.

I'm sorry. It's cool. Mallory, in 2000, did you hold a mop? It's possible that at some point, my mother set some chores and said, Swiffer that fucking floor, fold the laundry, iron it. It's entirely possible, yeah. Does that explain your fastidiousness to this day?

I think my husband has some feedback recently on the tidiness level in our home. So Chris can ask him about that as Adam texts him every day with new 4K links. And they discuss their passion for physical media. It's beautiful. The brotherhood just grows. Really thrilled for you guys.

Adam is at 2000, as Sean knows, DVDs for years, just waiting for other people to talk to him about this, so he's delighted. In the year 2000, I was, let's see, eighth grade into ninth grade, so end of middle school into the beginning of high school. So it's an interesting stretch in my movie history where like this was a big time for middle school, early high school movies, right? I don't know, 800 sleepovers

where we watch center stage, for example, right? Like there were some movies that just feel inextricable from thinking back to those years. I was also still seeing movies with my parents. Like I definitely saw Meet the Parents with my parents, not together, because they split when I was two, but that's for another part. That's for American Psycho.

Right. And then that's kind of the third bucket of like, I'm an adult and I am becoming my own person and I will engage with mature cinema. Wait, how old were you again? 13. Okay. Cause you're like, I was an adult, but I'm having sleepovers and watching 7

Stages. Oh, you know, love a sleepover. Excuse me. And some of these movies that I discovered later in high school, you know, some of these movies were a big part of my life later in high school or even in college. So the formative years, I mean, very similar in that sense to 99. Man, 2000. I was in the wilderness film-wise because this was a banner year for me.

I had left Louisiana Tech and transferred to Southern University. You hit the portal. I did. And when we got on the yard, me and my friend, Ryan Davenport, my very best friend, known him since the first grade. When we got-

You were his best friend, I thought so too. Yeah, I'm sorry about that. When we got- You were his best friend, I thought so too. Yeah, I'm sorry about that. When we got on the yard, on Southern's campus, HBCU, Baton Rouge, we couldn't concentrate on anything else other than what was going on in the yard. What was going on? Female. Follies?

Yeah. We couldn't concentrate on, like I'm looking at this. And did you say it like that just like that? We actually didn't say that's actually the PC bird. Um, did you see any films that year? I saw films Like I saw films but so many of these movies were DVD rentals Let's play dude, Where's My Car Again. Yeah.

DVZ rentals, you know what I mean? Like, I'm looking at some of these movies, and I wasn't in the theaters as much as I was before. Because at Tech, I was going to the movies all the time, because there was less to do. But we was on the yard. What do you mean by less to do? Tech was, you know, it was up there and rusting.

So I was going to the movies a lot, but man, on the yard, it was a Kappa party. It was a perfect tan party. You know what I mean? We had Harambe. We had all different types of- Would you say Harambe? Okay. So Harambe is not just the name of an ill-fated primate.

Yeah. Well, he, yeah. He's one of the defining characters of ill fated primate. Yeah. Well, he yeah. He's one of the defining characters of Amanda's wedding to me. Harambe got married. Is also the name. As soon as I heard that word, that's where we were going. We read each other's salon. Dot. I'm in the headlines about when you celebrate your wedding anniversary, salon.com headlines about Harambe. When you celebrate your wedding anniversary,

do you pour one out for Harambe? I do. You visit his grave site. And what was the Thunder team that night? That was through Klay Thompson Game 6. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah.

It was a big night. Crazy wedding. Yeah. A lot of people watching basketball on their phones at midnight. Before they all stood up on chairs and started throwing things around. Wait, who's the other Harambe?

Harambe is a multicultural festival that happens between LSU and Southern, where everybody comes out and there's a step show. So I was locked in. But I saw all of these movies at different times, but a lot of this stuff is in bedroom, in living room, viewing, later on in the year. I noticed you love the bedroom.

Yeah, I noticed as well. Or- Why don't you try other rooms? Females? in living room viewing later on in the year. Yeah, I noticed as well. Or, or- What about the other rooms? Females? Females. Amanda. AKA's, deltas. I mean, hard to follow that one,

especially with where I was. I was thinking on the way in, in many ways, maybe 2000 was like peak performance, Amanda. Like I turned 16, got my driver's license, a state champion cross country. I mean, I was not number one, but the team was absolutely smashing those APs, you know, fives only. So it was like, it was like, I was like, I took the SATs that went okay. Like, have I gotten back to that? Yeah.

What about your room? We're not talking about that. We're not doing that. Cause we can all put the scores on the table. We don't have to be comparable. If you're going to talk your shit, talk your shit. All right. And so I just, I haven't gotten back to that, you know?

Like that was it. Would you describe yourself as like a cool, fun 60s? No, like literally nothing I said was just cool, right? Like, I was taking the SATs and AP classes, you know? But like in terms of what I was built to do, like maybe that was it. And the rest has just been- You peaked in AP. Uh, probably, yeah. I mean, I don't think that's rest has just been- You peaked in AP.

Uh, probably, yeah. I mean, I don't think that's true, but thank you so much. AP lit, AP psych, AP history. No AP psych, they did not. What was your favorite? AP music theory, AP French lit, AP chem. AP French lit? French lit?

Translated. Exactly, translated. That's what I'm saying. I went to public school. What? AP French lit. I took AP Spanish lit. Did you use French? AP French Lit. I took AP Spanish Lit. It's a thing that people take.

Yeah. Really? And just reading Flaubert and writing essays about it? Yeah. Yes, in French. Do I remember anything? No. Yeah, World History.

Did you ever cheat in AP French Lit and secretly buy the books in English? Because that's what we did in AP Spanish Lit. Wow. A lot coming to light here. Just outing yourself. We wonder why higher education is crumbling now. Yeah. I mean, we had to write our essays in Spanish.

Maybe we did with Camus. Yeah, maybe I read The Stranger in English. Yeah, there's like some of them, you're just like, Marquez, I need some help. Yeah, but I mean, you know, you had to write the thing in French. I doubt my essay was very good. Blue Books, remember it? Oh, I do remember the Blue Books. Yeah, Children.

Chris, tell us about your APs in 2000. I was 22 turning 23 in 2000. This is the 2000 AD, but three BSF before Sean Fantasy in my life. That's right. I just moved to New York. That's how I'm worked time too. Adorable. Really touching.

Or yeah, I moved from Boston to New York in 2000. It's adorable. Really touching. Yeah, I moved from Boston to New York in 2000 and I was writing about music and I would describe my relationships to film as an activity rather than a passion. I think the cinema of the time kind of like it kind of gave into that kind of behavior because it was like a fun thing to do on a Saturday afternoon before I went out at night or like if I had time to kill or whatever, if I was walking by a theater, I was like, oh, I actually checked it out. I was playing, but it wasn't like I was making lists and I'm making I'm thinking about it and I'm reading a lot of criticism and I'm trying to figure out like what are the hot movies. It was just kind of like, oh, is this a movie about stealing cars? I'll go watch it, you know. And so that was my that was my kind of movie vibe back then.

But like, were you you were still in college? Were you I mean, you haven't talked about your relationship to females in that year. And also your AP school daddy. Well, no, I was out of college. I know. So I was just taking AP tests for fun. Boston into New York. So this was the big strawberry strawberry ale era. And this was when you were getting tatted up.

You were if memory serves. Boston, I OK, I moved big strawberry strawberry ale era. And this was when you were getting tatted up. You were in a piece. If memory serves. Boston, I OK, I moved on from strawberry ale. And those were like the freshman year beers. I was on Newberry Street the other day and I thought of you. Was that I was on Newberry Street the other day. That's where I was. I know for five years. Did you leave Boston because of the racism? Yes. I was like, I just I don't know much to bear.

I just can't take this. And the strawberry ale memories. Yes. I moved to New York with a girlfriend at the time. But she then left and went to London to be an au pair. Another show. Wow. Another show. Well, that's Emily in Paris.

But it's. Emily in Paris. Yeah. Chris in Brooklyn. Yeah. What was your girlfriend's name? It's like girls, but it's a guy. What was your au pair girlfriend's name?

I don't want to talk about it. Okay. Okay. Sorry. She was from Canada. And she was a very nice girl. Did she like leave you with the least? She was Juliette Binoche.

Okay. Congratulations. Liz Hurley? All right. Got it. In 2000, I graduated from high school and started my freshman year of college. And we just thought we were so fucking cool

that we were graduating high school in the year 2000 and it didn't mean anything and it is meaningless. But at that time, I was pretty much the same as I am now, obsessed with movies, kind of straddling the line between tremendous loser and normal person. And trying to- Were you wearing the Grey Goose Vodka hat with the fish hook in it at this point?

That was in college, That was in college. There has not been talk of that in some time. It's always on my mind. Have you ever seen it? I actually believe I might've emailed Eileen once and asked for a photo, but did not receive one. Yeah, I did wear a Grey Goose Vodka hat with a fish hook on it for many years.

Do you feel like- A fish hook? Yes. Like the actual hook. Through the bill. Yeah, for like a fishing hook. But why? Sending out a message to the world? If this is really what I'm about? Yeah.

It's my favorite fact about it. Here's a really important question. In the 99 draft last year, we learned canonically that 99 was the year you became the Nuzlar. Oh yes, yeah. Sure. What was, was this the year of the Nuzlar 2? Also an Amazon series. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nuzling. No, that's, that's, I'm sorry. Eileen and I got together in 99 and stayed together. Yeah. And we are together today. Yeah.

So. The Nuzlar 2 still Nuzling in 2000. It was really more like an extended series rather than individual films. It was kind of my one lone dip into television Otherwise, it's been all movies for me. Got it. Got it. So 2000, uh, you know I saw a lot of movies in 2000 a shit ton of movies I think 99 also supercharged a native interest and it was just like so we're just getting like the matrix in the sixth sense

Every year like is this what movies are now? Isn't actually what happened. So this is a pretty fascinating year, very memorable Academy Awards because of the dominance of, I would say two figures, Maximus and Steven Soderbergh. Those to me are the critical. This is the Steven Soderbergh MVP season. I agree. As he's working his way through the bench the Steven Soderbergh MVP season.

I agree. As he's working his way through the bench with like out of sight and he's having a fantastic rookie year with Sex Lies and videotape and all of that stuff. This is the MVP season. This is finally when he grabs the thing, I'm the guy. I have a take that both of these movies are now underrated because they came out in the same year.

I agree. Definitely. Even by me. I've made a lot of podcasts about Steven Soderbergh over the years. Yeah. One, yes. I think the classics from this year had like a long period of time. Soderbergh's and also I would say some of the other well-regarded movies from this year

had a period of like out in the wilderness, like nobody's really talking about them. They're not being revived at all. And then they've had a nice, a nice little run recently. Like what I think I've definitely like come to love traffic, for instance, gladiator, I think got a bump from the sequel and from just the sequel, not being as good as gladiator. Bill Simmons single-handedly has kept cast away in the public consciousness for the last 15 years. So there's a lot of stuff going on. Yeah. Having just recently revisited Cast Away after not caring about it for a very long period of time,

Bill was right. Pretty good movie. Pretty amazing movie. I don't know if it's the single film that I would dedicate my life to thinking about. No, I wouldn't either. I do, it's a lot of, I mean, it's a perfect though. Do you? I have a sense.

I do want to frame this conversation very specifically because my thinking about it dictated some of the category decisions that we made here today. So the thing that jumped out to me when I put together the list of all the movies that qualify for the box office category is that there are only two sequels in the top 21, no, 22 movies from this year. Originals.

That is crazy when you look at the history of movies. And obviously in the last 25 years, we've talked a lot about sequel ization franchises. But if you go back to the eighties, there's usually four or five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 sequels. So the thing that we always drone on about on the show, which is like make original movies, this was the year. Like they did it. And we have to ask ourselves, is this actually what we want?

Because in some cases, it doesn't always turn out right because it's a risk to do an original. So original storytelling bad actually. Didn't say that. Okay. But I, it sounded like you did. It's fodder for discussion. And so with that in mind, we have changed a category.

I'll go through the seven categories we'll be drafting from today. So most of the classics, drama, comedy, action, horror, thriller, Oscar nominee. That means any movie that was nominated for an Oscar released in this year. And then in lieu of sequel, we will do original. So that means we will pick an original movie, not based on any IP whatsoever, because there

are so many options to choose from. Now we can have a little bit of a spirited debate about what qualifies and what does not in a moment. And then wildcard is our last category. No, excuse me. Blockbuster, $100 million threshold, and then wildcard. So seven categories, seven drafters. 49 films.

49 films. This is a lot. We got to make,, we gotta be succinct in our picks. Yeah. The original question. Now I got a a late text message and a post 10 p.m. text message from Mallory Rubin last night. From who? Who would dare to violate the health rules of working for someone? It was former president Barack Obama. He said I heard the 2000 draft is coming. I'll have you know. anyone who would dare to violate the

Barak Obama. He said I heard the 2000 draft is coming I'll have you know I was a junior senator from Illinois at that time. Was he a junior? He wasn't a junior. He wasn't. Wow. What was he doing? He was in he was still a Congress. Local government. He was a state senator. Just watching an NCT. So Mal

texted me and I won't say the title of the film but it is a film that is based on true events, but fictionalized. And she said, does this movie qualify for original? And it's, I don't have a strong feeling. I think it's worth discussing. I was following up on what I realized

some eight to 12 hours later in the day was a note from you that I had not absorbed or understood in full, which was like real life figures count as, in this exercise, IP. That would make a movie not an original movie. So if it is a historical adaptation, if it is based on a book, if it is based on a play, if it is based on an older version of the movie,

we're saying that it being based on real figures is the same as being an adaptation of a book, which to me is ludicrous. I agree. That's insane. Absolutely absurd. It makes the category almost impossible. You know what?

It's your draft. Is it? Jesus. Let's be legal about it. Is something being off? It's like if it's a book, if it's a biography, if it's a, I don't wanna give anything away, but a piece of journalism, you know?

Memoir. Then that is IP. If it's just, you know, life rights. Right, and what if the figures are in public domain? If it's still made by, but it's not a direct one-to-one based on this person's life? You guys are legitimately making Shana comfortable right now.

No, I think we should do the photography rule. I think he wants to be pushed. I think we'll know it when we see it. Okay, so people, so make the pick, try to pick it in that category if you want, and then the group can say no, and you adjust. I think that's right. Original.

I made a list of potential originals and came up with quite a few. That's a lot. I think there's a lot here that even if you remove the docudrama element, there's a rich tapestry of picks to choose from. Now, are they exactly the movies that you want on your draft board?

Probably not. It's gonna be hard to get all the movies you want with seven drafters in seven categories. We just went through this with Tom Cruise. You know, some not so great movies were drafted. Some absolutely brutal stuff. Yeah. I had to take this with Tom Cruise. You know, some not so great movies were drafted. Some absolutely brutal stuff. Yeah. I had to take interview with the vampire.

I would have taken it. You had to be honored to. Yeah. That movie sucks. That was only funny because you talked about how you didn't want it. The show, we gotta talk. We gotta do the interview with the vampire.

The show has- We talked about this last time we talked about the show. Just riddled and degraded the movie to me I can't do the movie anymore. The show is not really as good as the show, but it's still yeah Okay, before we draft we need to set the draft order for the very last time Bobby Wagner will be helping us set the draft Bob do you want to weigh in on this original debate? Nope You guys figure that out over there. I'm just here to set the order.

Selecting first overall will be Mallory Rubin. Oh, no. Exciting. Yeah. I didn't want that. Yeah. Honestly. Nobody ever wants where I pick them.

Like what do you guys, you get first, you get last, everyone's mad all the time. This was the burden that you carried for many years. Yeah, now it's not my responsibility anymore. Second overall, Rob Mahoney. This is a lot of tiles to pick out without Sean even vamping. Sean third? Sean. Sean third. Wait, who was second vamping. Sean third?

Sean. Sean third. Wait, who was second? Sorry. Rob. Yeah, Rob. So you have like a hierarchy of picks. You're like, this is my personal relationship.

I've talked about this before. I go through the list of films released in the year. I write down everyone that I know I saw. Your fourth, yeah. Fourth is Chris. And then I do like basically a power ranking of them. Okay. But then I put them into their appropriate genre categories or their appropriate categories. I see.

Yeah. And you order them by preference. Yeah. Okay. But then I at the moment when we walk in- Joanna Fitt. Oh, Joanna's five. How did you do it with Seabiscuit since you haven't seen it? That was more about my relationship to horses and giant.

And World War II bond raising. He was not racing during World War II. Van is going six, which makes Amanda seven. You have the turn. Okay. Fifth. Second. I did not want the first pick in this You have on the honor Bobby. Thank you Bobby

You did it, thank you very much Bob farewell to top out of the top gun had good luck everyone Let's go Mets Let's go now. It's go Mal. It's your turn. I saw them lose recently. Yes, I know. You got to see Dobbin's pitch. I did. Dobbin start and then walk off in the tenth for the Sox.

Wasn't there a Nor'easter? Yeah, I sat through it in the first inning, but we made it. Alright. I didn't want the number one pick because in a draft this size it's just so long to wait for the second pick and I think that's but we made it. All right. I didn't want the number one pick because in a draft this size, it's just so long to wait for the second pick. And I think that's gonna be a challenge for me.

So take your time up now, yeah. But, and I kind of like knew what I wanted to do in the two through seven range, but I do feel like I know what I wanna pick. And I'm curious to see if you guys agree and think there was a consensus or if this could have gone a number of different ways. I will be selecting something that has been on all of our minds recently because of a sequel that

was not as good and made us appreciate this film more. What we do in movie drafts echoes an eternity. I will be taking Gladiator, which I think is the closest in Oscar nominee. I will be taking Gladiator and Oscar nominee. I think this is the closest to like, yeah, this might have been number one on most people's boards, but I won't be surprised if that's not the case. You know, it was. And then I feel like Sean did a whisper campaign about how Gladiator's not that good. Did he? Did you? Did I do a whisper camp?

Have you been have you been kind of like this movie's not? I feel like we also the second one and thought, you know what? That first one was even better than we realized. Well, I think both things are true. I think it can be not my favorite Ridley Scott movie, and I can also acknowledge that it has greatness in it. It's just not. It's interesting because like Gladiator

is an original movie, but I think there's a through line with the original movies that we have in this year is that they're all super familiar concepts. You got your sword and sandal movie. You got your big time comedy where you're actually meeting. There's all things you can glom onto. So Gladiator feels like a movie that you've seen before. And like it takes you a while to realize

that you're watching something that has historical figures and it's the whole nine. That's like a throwback Spartacus type film. So people knew what to expect when they would sit down. It also does feature real life figures. And Marcus Aurelius. Marcus Aurelius. Marcus Aurelius is a world. And then also the inspiration for that movie

is based on a book about Coliseum fighting, but then nothing is really taken from that book other than the idea of Coliseum fighting being the platform, the stage for the movie. So if it were to go into the original conversation, I think that would have been the most interesting debate that we could have had. Is that what you're asking about?

There were, it actually wasn't the one I texted him about, but it was the thing we had discussed during the day. Yes, yes, we talked about it. And then I was like, wait, now I have a question about another movie. I feel good about this pick. This is a solid movie to have on my board. It's a great pick.

I think it's a consensus one. Can I pick one nit on the gladiatorial front? Every time I watch this movie, I want more time in the minors. Like Gladiator AAA is my favorite part. The trains. The trains is where they get it. Like you gotta prove you can do it in Rochester

before you get to Rome. And I feel like we fast forward through that stuff way, way too fast. I have a star's show for you called Spartacus. And guess what? Guess what? I loved every second of Spartacus. A lot of dicks in that show.

A lot of dicks. Blood and Sand show. A lot of dicks. And so we've Spark. A lot of dicks in that show. A lot of dicks. And so we've again. A lot of dicks. Gladiator 2 had the same problem. Where it was like, Paul Mescal was a warrior and then a slave and then he won one fight

and they were like, you are now entering the Roman Coliseum. But he had familial kind of claim to the chair. He was really bad at speeches. He had a lot going for him. Gladiator 2 is fucking unwatchable. First gladiator rules though. I didn't think it was unwatchable.

I watched it. I tried to watch it again. I watched it. Gladiator 2 sucks. What about, I thought Denzel was very entertaining. I thought Denzel was great. I thought the syphilitic emperors were great. I saw it at 10 AM by myself.

The monkey? The monkey? Yeah. The monkey. What about, I thought Denzel was very entertaining. I thought Denzel was great, I thought the Syphilitic Emperors was great. I saw it at 10 AM by myself. The first time I saw it I was like, hey, you know, this is kind of cool. The second time I watched it, it's a fucking mess. You know, I've only seen it once, so maybe I don't ever have to answer that question.

All right. Rob. Rob Mahoney has the number two pick. I feel like this is pretty easy. I'm gonna take Almost Famous at two. Yeah, that was the other one I considered at one. That would have been my number one. Yep, it's really tough.

It's really tough. Pretty undeniable. I didn't think I could do it to Jeff, to be honest. I don't know why I thought that was gonna fall to me. Yeah, Mallory cannot betray me. What the hell? Yeah, I kind of figured it would go at one, so I'm thrilled to have it at two.

Watching it at the time, I'm very much like goner for Penny Lane watching this movie. Now I watch it and I realize- Goner or gooner? No comment. Now I watch it and I'm like really identifying with Frances McDormand. So, you know, we have, we've crested into a different

stage of life. Yeah, I'm feeling that deeply. She's making a lot of great points. Maybe not like full on record confiscation points, but other than that, incredibly charming, undeniable movies. So hard not to get swept away in it. It's a classic, I'm going to pull up this one scene and I end up watching the back, I don't know, hour and a half of this movie. It's the best. What category? I'm going to take it.

So can I make the argument for comedy is almost famous enough of a dramedy to be a comedy? I think so. That feels like too think it's I think it's in Wikipedia describes it as a romantic comedy. I find that fascinating because I think this is actually a great year for comedy so I'll allow it just in that very specific respect. This is what I texted Sean about last night at 11 p.m. by the way. Yeah. Yes. In terms of the question is would this be considered because neither William Miller nor the band he is profiling are real people. But Zeppelin exists in this world.

Still one is real to me. Ben Fong Torres is here. Ben Fong Torres, of course, Lester Bangs, of course. We've got real people, but by changing, was it the Eagles or the Doobie Brothers? What was the band that he was sort of like loosely basing his experiences? It was the Doobie Brothers. the Doobie Brothers? What was the band that he was sort of like loosely basing his experience? It was the Doobie Brothers. The Doobie Brothers. Yeah. So I was like obsessed with music magazines when this

movie came out and my life's goal was to work at a music magazine when this movie came out and I was obviously already a huge fan of Cameron Crowe. Folks have heard me talk about Jerry Maguire many times on the show. I was like is this really happening when this movie came out? Like I was electrified by this movie and didn't maybe totally even understand what Cameron Crowe's life was and the fact that he was like, yeah, I'm 16, I'm on the road with a band.

Fuck, I find it still has the magic. That's how I feel like the upcoming HBO show, Task. It's really happening. Mark Ruffalo for me. This is like a, you guys can weigh in on this too please. If they didn't score that to Guns N' Roses as patients, would that be a good trailer? They did it's a good trailer Because Guns N' Roses is patients like that's over here. That's a five out of five. Yeah

That's like this is what we're going that's on the mood board You're holding your arm up to say that's over here because it does allow me to say that Joanna Robinson Who's with us today has an almost famous tattoo on her wrist and yet Rob Mahoney took this movie before she could. Not a thing that I did to her. I think that we have learned over time that Rob Mahoney takes no prisoners.

It's true. I made my piece of this. I was like, if I'm not a number one or two drafter, I'm not getting it, but this is a movie that changed my life. It's the reason I got into journalism. It's a perfect movie. Well, you know what we said in that Rob? But I support you in all your diversity.

All right, well, I'm in the complicated position of number three. Yeah. Well, I think I'm gonna take a blockbuster. And I think I'm gonna take one of the most exciting blockbusters of this year. And the fact that gonna take a blockbuster. And I think I'm gonna take one of the most exciting blockbusters of this year. And the fact that it was a blockbuster is a remarkable thing that happened taking Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.

Ang Lee masterpiece. This movie, it's hard to communicate what a phenomenon this movie was. Released by Sony Pictures Classics by a filmmaker who never made action cinema like this. Who really did not indicate that this was like, I guess pushing hands, maybe one of his first movies showed that he had an interest in martial arts,

but extraordinary movie, Michelle Yeoh, I think for many people, the first time they saw her and now we have a huge relationship with her in the last 10 years of movies. Just a gorgeous worship film. I think Winyo Pang, who did the choreography for The Matrix, also worked on this movie. And so you had that like incredible wire work

and this movie made like $130 million. You could make an argument at number one. Absolutely. You can make an argument at number one. It was a phenomenon. It was like everybody was talking about the martial arts, but then also when you saw the movie, you got swept up in this beautiful story.

That's a gorgeous, beautiful story. It's a great movie. I can't see the screen. You see the sequel to this movie? I didn't. Crouching Tiger II. I didn't, when did that come out? 2016, something like that.

Haven't seen the sequel. Popped in the 4K. If this puppy over the weekend, fuck. Yeah. Looks beautiful. This was a movie that had maybe the highest approval rating of people coming out of the theater in this year. Just anecdotally, like, I remember seeing it walking out.

As a theater. Were you also? I remember vomiting. Joey Ajo festooned in the tube. He's like, did you like it? Yeah. Okay, number four. That's me.

By the way, Crouching Tiger would have applied to like six of these categories. Which category did you take it in? I took it in blockbuster. Oh, okay. Blockbuster kind of a weird category. You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna do something a little funny here.

In original, I'm gonna do you can count on me. Oh, that's a great. Great. I think you're thinking about Mark Ruffalo. I am always thinking about Mark Ruffalo, Kenneth Lonergan's directorial debut. So good. Really, like the first time I had ever really seen Ruffalo, I think this is his first big role and probably like Laura Linney's breakout, I would say one of the most amazing portraits of family love that I've ever seen. And what happens to families over the course of their lives as their parents get older.

And it's like everything happens and is tender and funny and heartbreaking. And it's probably the movie that I like take with me the most from this year. And you know, with all the legalese surrounding original films this year I thought I grab one smart and I'm also happy to walk away with it so that's good that's a good one. Perfect movie. Yeah this is a rare if memory serves four and a half stars for the Sean fantasy letterbox. Did I give it four and a half stars? I think you did. Don't be doing this. He sent us a letterbox list and there are a number of four stars but I only saw one four and a half stars? I think you did. Don't be doing this. Don't give kids letter box. He sent us a letter box list and there are a number of four stars,

but I only saw one four and a half. One of the greatest last scenes in a film too. I don't know. He knows he's pretending. Incredible cello score. It does. It's a very good movie if you have a sibling. That's what I'll say.

If you've ever had a complicated relationship. Well, Chris does it still. Yeah, yeah. No offense to all the onlies, but this movie gets something very right about having siblings. It's the obvious. I have an only in my family,

so no shots to the onlies. This is my movie I was dumb enough to think was gonna be there in round three or four. So I'm heartbroken that you took it, but obviously you had to. There's a lot of stuff in a lot of other categories that I just, I'm a little freaked out by original. You gotta do what you want. Yeah, same is it now Joanna we've got Jack made a helpful

little rubric Joanna that'll be very helpful to look at okay Joe I think you're right that we have to like dig into original while we have it shit I Fuck. I kind of feel like I'm going to throw up right now. I don't just say it. Wow. What I'm inspired by, Chris, since my number one is off the board, I'm kind of spiraling. So I will just go with my heart and I'll say actually one of the most important movies to me also in this year is Billy Elliot. Wow. OK, all right. I'm deleting it. But I don't have to throw up. This is Billy Elliot. Wow. OK. All right. I'm deleting it.

I don't have to throw up. This is my prediction. Of course, then turned into a stage musical, which gave us Tom Holland, among other things in our lives. But I have watched this movie one million times. Incredible young Jimmy Bell performance. Wonderful. Great movie. If you've got dad issues.

Great movie if you have anger and frustration and use art to get through it. Great movie if you love regional dialects in the UK. And this is one of those, you know, the soundtracks that had snippets of dialogue on the CD or on the tape, like little scene-lets, and then you listen to that soundtrack so many times, you have all of those little moments of dialogue like in Pulp Fiction memorized. This is true of the Billy Elliot soundtrack for me. I listen to it, it's got all these great T-Rex tracks and then all these great scenes from Billy Elliot and I cry every time I watch this movie.

Joe, you're taking this in original? Yes. What is the verdict on this is based on his own play that then he adapts into the movie that then he adapts into a different play? Rob, did you take almost same as for me and now you're trying to take Billy Elliot? I would love nothing more than to give you Billy Elliot if I'm being honest. I think that we could create a loophole that the person adapting all this stuff is the same guy. Same idea.

It's original. The whiplash theorem. But if it's based on our own life, it's not original? I didn't say that. Well, I think that we're still negotiating. Oh, well, we can still negotiate that. Okay. All right.

That was a very beautiful tribute. I'm slightly concerned that from a rules perspective, that would be, you can take it in a different category. Yeah. I actually, so I don't know enough about this. I'm on Joe's side. Re-explain what transpired here. So Lee Hall, again, you'll have to make like

several hundred hours of podcasts with Jordan for the next 12 months. He's the nicest guy and he's a fucking assassin. He's an animal. You're a fucking animal. He's not nice. Every time you get to the core of who Rob is, he's a fucking assassin. He's an animal. You're a fucking animal. He's not nice. It's awful. Every time you get to the core of who Rob is, he's a sociopath. I'm calling HR.

Lee Hall wrote a play called Dancer. That play gets adapted into the movie Billy Elliot. That gets adapted into the play Billy Elliot. Hold on. It premiered as a rehearsed reading in 1998 at the live theater, so it wasn't even a full production. Leave Joe alone. I think that that's... I don't like this. If this hasn't been staged, then I think that that is a loophole. Okay. Thanks, Amanda. Rehearsed reading. I mean,

I'm just reading box office. Not really came through. But I agree. Really came through for me. So if you're a person out there watching... In Newcastle upon Tyne also. So, you know, like not the West End. Who has a ticket stub to Billy Elliot, then Joe's draft isn't validated. This is really dicey territory because like every movie is kind of based on an idea that someone had at any given time that when then went into a series of development, these are the pitfalls of this category.

I'll make an allowance for Billy Elliot. Oh wow. That's really big of you. How does that sound? Yeah, I'm team Joe here. So generous. Thank you. You gotta talk to him Yeah, I'm Team Joe here. So generous. Thank you. You gotta talk to him.

I mean, there were plenty of rehearsed readings for all sorts of original. Yeah, they've rehearsed, read, hatefully. They certainly did. That was also original. Wait, so you thought I would do almost his first, Billy Elliot second? Yeah. Well, I know it's my heart. It's really sweet.

I had a theory, because I just, the love of the musical and the dance. The art of dance. The end when he's in, Matthew Borg, Swan Lake, and his dad cries and gasps when he makes the leap. Oh yeah, forgot about that. Oh my God. Okay, Van, you're up. All right, so for my first pick, it's gonna be symbolic

because I know I'm gonna get the movie that I want after Amanda's two picks, because it's coming right back to me So I'm gonna pick bamboozled in original. Wow originals. There's a run. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna pick bamboozled in original It is the movie the single movie that I watched the most this year Blown away at spikes audacity. I think it was partly the audacity of the movie that makes it one of spikes was partly the audacity of the movie that makes it one of Spike's lesser lauded films. Because as far as him just writing a movie that has the same ending issue that many Spike Lee movies have, right?

Where he kind of drifts into the supernatural slash absurdist slash whatever and people go, whatever, throwing the basketball and then having a guy catch it at the end, having Chuddlesworth catch it at the end if he got game, or the wake up from the end of school days where people like, it's more of an allegorical ending. This one kind of has the same thing, but what a kick in the nuts. If you are a 20 year old black man,

and you are endeavoring, wanting to endeavor into a career in entertainment. When you watch this movie, it completely reorients the way you look at yourself and the way you look at that entire industry. Just like a sublime absurdist tragedy. Love the film. Your favorite character is Michael Rappaport. Oh.

Yeah. But that was sort of peak Rappaport for Yeah. But that was sort of peak Rapaport for me. More ways than one. The corporate PR satire stuff in this movie is like way too fucking applicable. Like the playbook of just like name check Martin Luther King, say the word community a lot, wear the Kente cloth.

It's like, oh, oh, oh Lord. He tries, he literally tries to do the one idea that he thinks is too far that will surely get him fired. And it's the one that makes him into who he was. It was just, I still watch it's fantastic to me. The one thing about this movie that was at the time kind of revolutionary and now is interesting to look back on is that it looks like it was shot with a potato.

Right. And it's that early DV that you get like with 28 days later. And there's a couple of movies that were shot with this really early TV style. Oliver Stone U-turn. Did you do that? Kind of like there's like parts of it that feel that way or maybe even just different film stocks. Yeah. Um, but it actually just makes it feel like surveillance footage handheld. And so you're what you're like in those boardrooms where Damon Wayans is explaining his ideas and you're like, is this like a candid camera episode or something that feeling of disorientation? It works really great for this fantastic Tommy Davidson performance as well. Yeah, like just I love the movie

Okay, great pick. We're down to Amanda at the turn We cheer and we lead We cheer and we lead. You hate us because we're beautiful, but we don't like you either. We're cheerleaders. Yeah. Yeah. Cheerleaders. Okay.

I went to sleep last night and praying that I would get the turn so that I could do a kiki doubleheader. Obviously, obviously number one. Thank you so much, everyone. Number one pick in drama will be The Virgin Suicides. Sofia Coppola's directorial debut, which premiered at Cannes in 1999, but it was not eligible for the 1999 draft

as I made Rob Mahoney very aware of because it did not premiere in the US until April 2000. This is an absolutely beautiful movie about being a teenager and not understanding things and like deep sadness and the power of Josh Hartman 25 years ago, which remains today. I didn't get to go to... I'm just listening, come on. I have some good questions, but otherwise, yes. The trip Fontaine? How dare you? Oh, come on.

First of all, when he's like walking down the Powerful. The hallway to Magic Man. And then obviously with the heart and she jumps into the car and they start making out. It's an amazing thing. That is some powerful stuff. I didn't get to go to the Academy screening

with Kiki and Sophia, which like was okay with me. I don't like, I don't know if I want to be that close to greatness, but I did think Kiki looked great. Anyway, that's drama. Comedy, bring it on. Which like, I honestly, I was a little nervous that Joanna was going to take bring it on for me at some point.

This is, you know, I was, I turned 16 in 2000. One of the great teen comedies. Yeah. Incredible Kirsten Dunn's performance. Great Gabrielle Union gave us Spirit Fingers, gave us one of the great movie openings of all time, which I do have memorized in full. I just gave you guys a snippet there.

You're welcome. The floor is yours. Yeah. The floor is yours, continue. For the moves as well. You also take an AP class on the film, Bring It Up. No, but do you know actually that like at a pep rally at my high school, the actual cheerleaders did perform

that opening, I was not a cheerleader, no. No, I was on Cross Country. Were you a cultural appropriator? Yeah, also not back, though I did live in Atlanta, so you know. A really, really funny, like smart teen movie. Great, I prefer this to Ant-Man, thanks to all of you. And I feel great about getting it.

It's bonkers to me that bringing on was not a blockbuster. Because speaking of movies that did numbers on the sleepover circuit, I don't understand how this wasn't a bigger theater hit. Were you bumping Bring It On? Yeah, it was a big one. Oh, yes. This movie was everywhere.

Absolutely. You could not avoid it. In Reisterstown, Maryland? It was kind of an instant cult classic, but it left you. Yeah, it was. And now a queer classic. Now a queer classic as well. Okay, Van, we're back to you.

It's the only time I'm torn. Oh. I felt like I know something. I thought you were like, I'm gonna get this. You knew what you wanted to do. I know. But now I'm thinking about another movie that I would really love to have.

But I'm gonna go with my first heart. I'm taking traffic off the board. Interesting. That isn't what I thought you were going to do. No, because there's another film that I want to, but I got to take traffic off the board for what category Oscar. Oscar. Oscar.

Bad Ruge. I'm only the only time I'm gonna get to draft Baton Rouge is this, Stephen Soderbergh, Baton Rouge. But more so like, you know, I loved the movie from the moment that I saw it, ensemble cast. It seemed like a very important film to watch at that time that it was saying something really important and turning you on to something

that you kind of didn't realize was going on. So first time I was really thought of drug cartels as being Mexican and not like Colombian. You know what I mean? Like the movie was saying something and like diving deep into a world and took me in the middle of the world that made me uncomfortable,

particularly the Amanda Seyfried, like all of that stuff. Erica Christensen. Yeah, Erica Christensen. Put some respect on SwimFam. Look, too blonde from the same, I already is gonna- Don't you hate that though,

like when you're promoted to drug czar and then Topher Grace gets your daughter hooked on crap. And then Topher Grace has the temerity to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, back up, man. What would it be like if 100 black guys went into a white neighborhood asking for drugs? I felt them. But even that portrayal, like I'm telling you,

even if it's like- This was mind blowing if you were watching that 70s show, by the way, that he showed up in this form. Yeah, yeah. So wine ball. Yeah, he's like, I'd like to take a hit. Here's what I'd like to try. Let's have sex and take a hit when we both come. Yeah, he's like, I'd like to take a hit. Here's what I'd like to try. Let's have sex and take a hit when we both come.

Yeah. How did I know you were gonna quote that directly while looking me in the eyes on this podcast? The way this movie got sold to me, cause the way this movie got sold to me is like, one of my homeboys was like, hey yo, Chris Rock has been beaten. And I was like, what?

He's like, he not the number one crackhead no more. When you see the white girl in traffic, that's the number one crackhead ever. And I had to go see the number one crackhead. Check it out. And so I went and saw the movie, fantastic. A movie that holds up as good today as it was then. Let's just shout out a couple of things in this.

Cliff Martinez score, he blacked out. It's amazing, it's just gorgeous. The fact that Silverberg's running Michael Douglas up and down these streets with like a handheld camera. Clifton Collins is incredible in this, Benicio obviously amazing. Don Cheadle. Cheadle's amazing in this.

Have you seen Benicio's game yet? And this is my favorite, Catherine Zeta-Jones. Yeah, Catherine Zeta-Jones is so good in this. The peak of her career. That's disrespectful to Ocean's Eleven. Benicio's amazing in Ocean's Game. When this movie came out, I had the same reaction as you. I was like, this movie is important.

And I had that classic Reddit conspiracy brain of like, it is all connected. The drug goes all the way to the top and then all the way down to when you're 16. And you're like, this has revealed something really profound. And then for the intervening 10 or 15 years, I was like, this movie's a little overrated and it feels very schematic and I can feel

the screenplay when I'm watching it. And then I would watch it again a few years ago. And I was like, actually, no, this is he's right. Everything is all connected. The performances in the movie are incredible. Like this is some of the best acting I think Soda Works ever gotten. So yeah, great pick. Tough for CR. Tough for CR. Joanna. That's rough. Howler, do you know what I'm picking next? I actually have a theory. I'll be honest about whether I'm right after you make the pick.

Okay, so for a long time, I would walk around and talk about my top five. I knew it! This was my prediction for your draft is that it would be very musically inclined. Because there are a lot of great music movies. What am I picking? You're picking High Fidelity.

Oh, I'm not picking high fidelity by the way that was the other movie it was between traffic and high fidelity I'm shocked that that's not what you're picking okay I would talk about my top five favorites of all time two of them were from the year 2000, almost famous in this other one that I'm gonna say. Another one was from 2001, and then it was a rotating other two. And this, I don't know if it's just because like,

I was working in a movie theater or whatever. Anyway, point being. Requiem for a Dream. It's O Brother, O Brother. It's O Brother, O Brother. It's like one of my dad's favorite movies. I'm taking taking an Oscar. And I love this movie with my whole entire heart.

I think this is my favorite George Clooney. This is where I was introduced to one of my favorite people, Tim Blake Nelson. This is an incredible Coen brothers joint. We're basing it off a myth. We're changing everyone's relationship with bluegrass music. And it looks like a million bucks.

And I love this movie. I did know that this was a favorite of yours. It was also a favorite of Barry Rubin's, My Beloved Father. You guys have a lot in common that we frequently discuss. Yeah, Barry and I are one of them. It does still fit the Joe is gonna pick movies

with songs in them. Yeah, it's a musical. So yeah, great pick. Love it. You're really, you look perfect, Sean. Well, because I had a vision of how this round was gonna go and Van and Joe completely chopped it up. Because you thought you were gonna be able to make it.

I'm like the night in Monty Python. That's how I feel when you, this is how I feel every time I draft with you, CR, because you pick, you can count on me. And I was like, no one's going to pick that. I got that one easy. And then CR's like, number one. I thought I was going to get O Brother in this round.

So I'm going to do a little bit of, and I was just making sure that I was right about something, which is that Perfect Storm was nominated for some Oscars. Thank God. Thank God that this is me. I should have been nominated. I did not even put it on my list because of anyone but you got it, I was happy. Yes, do it. Thank God. I should have been nominated. I did not even put it on my list because if anyone but you got it, I would be happy.

Yes, do it! Come on! I feel like now I've lost touch with the actual monologue where it's just about... It's Diane Lane's letter to Mark Wahlberg as he gets killed. By the gigantic wave at the end? By the gigantic wave. She's like, Bobby, you and me, a fresh start. Two cut-ins up in this little patent. You know what I'm like? I can really see the denim cut-off shorts

as you were saying that. This movie rocks. Clooney, Wahlberg. What? Wait, you're picking this as your Oscar nomination? Yeah, sound editing. Dianne Lane is probably your deepest bag. That's like, that is the thing.

Nothing but respect for that. Yeah, she's also she's up in the crow's nest just crushing PBRs and Narragansett. Your dream. Your dream. I don't think Narragansett was around the beer at that time. Was it? I don't think so. Narragansett? Don't they drink that in Jaws? I don't think so, but maybe they do. I actually think that they probably do.

Marigants, beer. I don't think they just invented Marigants and beer in like 2003. You think it's like a fake. You're right, it was founded in 1890. 1890 in Cranston, Rhode Island. You think Diane Lane says Steve's bag and not the sea? As it was.

Well, I think the Life is Love is Lady might be the sea. I'm not here, they're both there. It was also nominated for best visual effects. Yeah, so double Oscar nominee. There you go. And honestly, in terms of my heart, it could have gotten better. I've never understood this movie.

Why not? It is such a fucking bummer, like a ridiculous bummer of all bummers. When I seen this, I did not know that they were going to die. Yeah. And then I got to watch his dumb ass be in the water at the end of the movie Like like just I'm like so I'm wondering like what's gonna happen, right? His stupid ass is floating around in the water at the end of the movie. Yeah doing the whole thing

I'm like, oh, so they just they fucking drown they got yeah, and I still can't make my peace with it Like why what was the point of me? They had to get the good tuna? I've tried they had a black eye with him. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I watched it. I've tried, they had a black guy with them. Yeah. This nigga got fucked over for no reason. What? You guys can laugh at that.

It's okay. They all signed up for the captain. I get it, but like, that's the type of shit that you watch that and you go, nah, if it's three white boys and me going out, I'm not going. I'm not going fishing. There was only one boat though. I get it me going out, I'm not going I'm not going there's only one boat though I did it but like I tried because they said I remember somebody saying that this movie was like

It's not you know, it's a based on a real story, right? Yeah, it was good, but it was gonna be like it was epic like Titanic or something that I went out It was Titanic for dudes. Yeah Guys being dudes on it. Well, it's On a boat, but it's. Titanic's not Titanic for dudes. No, I think Titanic's Titanic for everybody, but for dudes who love deep sea fishing, this is Titanic.

How do you think you would do on a sword boat? I'll never find out. I'm not like a big boat guy, honestly. Okay. I'm gonna draft a movie. Do you have anything else left to say about Perfect Storm? I think I've said it all. I've drafted it like 15 times.

In original and taking unbreakable, which is what I thought you were gonna take. Yeah. And I guess there's an original run going here and I rewatched this movie last night. And it's really good. This movie is amazing. This movie looks amazing. Obviously, M. Night Shyamalan immediately after the Sixth Sense follows this up with an original story that has deep roots in comic book storytelling. I forgot about this whole structure. No, just the whole like explanation, the title cards at the beginning of the movie about comic books and comic book collecting and storytelling. But just a fascinating movie like one of Bruceis, his best performances, easily one of Sam

Jackson's best performances. He's amazing as glass. I had forgotten how like, chilling that opening sequences when Glass is born. And his mother is like holding him and Aiman Walker comes in was on Oz at the time. And I was like, this is probably the next great American actor. I don't know what the hell happened to even Walker. I don't think he's American. Is he American? Iman Walker was like your Boyd Holbrick stock. He was.

I was like, I truly. If you ever watch him in Oz, because he was the leader of the Muslims, right? He was. Yeah, and he was powerful. Super powerful. This is my second Ringer podcast this week. I don't understand why he's not a huge famous actor.

I can't believe we're still here. I'm so happy. It's only Tuesday. I can't believe we're still here. On the Ringer while we stay away from Oz. Oz is a very incredible television show. I loved it. Bill would start like a dedicated Oz feed to our-

No, Bill and I were talking about a completely different show on Perseus yesterday and he was like, let's talk about Oz for a second. I think Oz might be one of the first things that Bill and I connected on, because we have like, it's like been a- I visited the set of Oz when I was in high school as well. That's so fucking weird.

It was something that my uncle wanted. You did what? I visited the set of Oz. You did what? Yeah. You just go there, you see some guy on guy assault. We didn't like, you're looking at your brain still for him? There was no like,

challenge of crucifying anybody on the day I visited it. Yeah. But it was like every other episode. Yeah, it was. Yeah. Oh my God. Emerald City, I'll never forget it. I saw it in person.

Okay, that's my pick. Unbreakable. I have a super hot take that no one in the world agrees with. About Unbreakable? Yeah. After all of these years, it's his best movie to me. Oh. Okay, so no.

Do you think Trap is? So it's his best movie. I'll tell you why. It's the power of J.S.R. If you go back and you watch The Sixth Sense, The Sixth Sense is like- It's a diamond. It is, at the same time, from start to finish, from start to finish, Unbreakable is a superior movie.

It tells, to me, a more brooding, the script is tighter, the character development is more direct. And I think, whereas the twist at the end of Sixth Sense's all-time movie stuff, the twist at the end of Unbreakable, just to me, solidifies the entire mythology of the movie. It's operatic high drama when you watch it now. It's a really good take. I don't buy it. We've also heard you make this take about science.

I feel like you make the claim that a lot of Shambhala movies are his best. No, I'll make you change. Science is his best. Yeah. People are allowed to change. Rob? Do you guys like that happening? No. With the trees? Yeah. I'll tell you what. Its is his best. Yeah. People are allowed to change, Rob. Do you guys like the happening?

No. With the trees? Tell you what, it's gotten better over the years. It's cool. It happened all the time. When I first saw it, I didn't get it. But I watched it maybe like three or four months ago. I probably saw Unbreakable in the theater seven to eight times.

It's extremely good. Yeah, it was a craze, an absolute craze. Seven to eight times? Yeah. What movie have you seen the most revenge of the Seth? How many times in the movie theater? No idea couldn't possibly tell you couldn't possibly tell you Well Mallory you can tell us your next pick. No, no, sorry Rob. Don't take the movies that I want to take the movie I'm gonna take his Aaron Brockovich. I'm gonna get my inner girl boss on a little bit

I'm gonna get my inner girl boss on a little bit Girl boss until the end of the I think we've entered this category Rob. I'm gonna take it in blockbuster Which feels a little flimsy to me at this point I Love how obsessed Soda Burger's with process, like we talked about with traffic. What makes this movie great to me is the same thing that makes Ocean's Love and Great,

which is like deep process, obsession with process, but also incredible charisma. Like you are in the well with Julia Roberts, pulling up dead frogs and shit, and it's like, who would you rather spend a movie with than that, in my opinion? So I feel great taking this off the board. I don't understand what's going on with

biker babysitter fairy godmother, Aaron Eckhart. I was gonna say- There's a lot of bandana work. But I think it's all perfect. If I go to Turkey and get a hair transplant, I'm coming back with the Eckhart from this movie. Yeah, the bandana, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, you can pull it off.

Did we not think that Aaron Eckhart was gonna be the biggest thing in the whole world? He is magnetic in this movie. He had a couple of starts and stops though, because it was this, and then he was a little down for a while and then started to go to the core of the earth. I believe it's called the core. The core.

The core. That would have scared me. The core. The whole story was in the company of men, you may recall, when he was in the company of men. Maybe Meleby will come up again during the podcast. Which one is in the company of men? Maybe Neil and B will come up again during this podcast. Which one is in the Company of Men? Is that also Topher Grace?

No, it's him and Matt. It's in Good Company. In Good Company is a banger to me. I don't care what you guys say. No, that's your friends and neighbors before it was a TV show. Right. Rob, do you have another pick?

No, I want to shout out another environmental movie. You guys ever see 1998's A Civil Action with John Travolta? Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. That's kind of the end of the super respectable John Travolta run. And then he goes off and makes several insane movies in a row.

I only know about this because on a tech change with friends we were talking about Swordfish. And Swordfish was when Travolta was fully deranged. And there's also a fully deranged Travolta movie in this year. There sure is. I don't think it will come up in the draft. So you've always been picky about your produce. But now you find yourself checking every label to make sure it's Canadian. So be it.

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Refreshingly simple. I know what I'm doing here. There are three movies that I would really like to be able to pick here. I can only pick two of them. I feel pretty confident Rob is gonna take the one I'm not picking. And I think Rob's draft is really good. So I'm a little bit bummed about that,

but I have to follow my heart. I'm about to pick two, and this is not hyperbole, two of my 10 favorite movies ever, legitimately. So I just, I have to do it. Two of your 10 favorite movies ever. Yeah. Wow. See, 2000's not so bad.

You got two of your 10 favorite movies in the end of this section. When I say them, you guys are gonna be like, yeah, I know that is true about you. You're not going to be surprised by what I pick. You definitely won't be. OK. In original. So relieved to pick an original. This is really stressing me out.

OK. A lot of things were happening late in high school. It's good in young men's basements. Okay, a lot of things were happening late in high school. It's good going in young men's basements. A lot of things were happening in young men's basements in Maesterstown, Maryland. Were you there? I was, you know, some, okay, the parents are upstairs, but like, sure, it's time for a blowjob. And then- Jesus Christ!

Watch it snatch! Watch it snatch! Watch it snatch! I am taking snatch as my original. When I think back. So were these happening at the same time? Often sequenced. Yeah.

Often sequenced. I mean- Which comes first? Phrasing. Which comes first? Izing, which comes first? I'm like, I kind of want to explore what you're talking about, but also really do not. Well, you know, it's a safe space today among friends,

and I'm being sincere when I think back to late high school. I think about watching Snatch in my high school boyfriend's basement and all the other things that we were doing down there. It's true. I will be taking that original. I will not be naming him either. I will be going with me Chris Ryan rule And I will not be naming him not very

We got I bet something is like we got the picture Yeah, I bet um I I love like, we got the picture without it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I bet. I love Snatch, I've seen this movie a thousand times. I think that's the clock stock when we did that draft. I just, I love- You're a Guy Ritchie girl. Yeah, I just love these movies. They're endlessly entertaining to me.

I love that you're gonna try to talk about this movie now. As if that's the thing you're about. You like thugs? This is like weirdly my favorite Brad Pitt performance ever. Not actually maybe, but I just love it. This movie is sensational. Like the bullet-toothed Tony, you know, the fact that it says replica down the side of your gun and mine says desert eagle. Like we were just walking around in high school quoting this movie to each other endlessly. It has like a real place in my heart. I rewatched it recently. Still fucking holds up.

You know what, Mal? I really wanted this movie, each other endlessly. It has like a real place in my heart. I rewatched it recently, still fucking holds up. You know what, Mal? I really wanted this movie, but in so many ways. I thought this was what you were gonna take it. You earned it. I thought you were gonna take it. 100 out of 100% chance I was getting it, and I am shocked. I thought for sure one of you was gonna take it in this round.

I thought for sure. I almost took it. Yeah, okay. My next pick, and this is the one that I don't think anyone will be, it's a fucking great movie. You kind of ruined it forever for me. I wanna apologize. I'm sorry, that was funny. next pick and this is one and I don't think anyone will be it's a fucking great movie you kind of ruined it forever for me for my third pick here on

the turn I will be taking as recently discussed on a memorable episode of rewatchable is my favorite comedy ever best in show I thought was gonna be your first yeah I that's where I thought if I I don't know why my strategy edge come what kind of changed radically when I got the number one. This I thought was gonna be your first. That's where I thought you were going. I don't know why my strategy had kind of changed radically when I got the number one pick. If I had been late in the first round, I probably would have taken this in the first round. So the fact that I have the opportunity to take it here

is a real delight to me. This movie, I have a vivid memory of watching this with my dad for the first time. He still quotes Harlem Pepper to me all the time. Nothing makes me laugh. Nothing is like a sherbet to make me crack up. Like rib agony laughter, then watching Cookie try to walk after she twists her knee. It's just the best. I love Christopher Guest and this is my favorite Christopher Guest movie. So I'm thrilled taking that in comedy.

I think it's going to be a debacle for me when we get to the rest of my picks though. Your first three picks are bangers. Yeah. First three picks are bangers and you've certainly won the anecdotal of picks. So. Holy shit. The break out is, the social break out is set I think.

Yes. Oh man. Well I hope not. Um. We have one hour to complete this draft. Can we do it with all of these picks? I believe that we can. Rob, you are the first person.

Don't suppose we have time for a bathroom break. I think people can get up and go and come back if they need to. Wow, that's actually quite fascinating. We've never done that before, but I actually would support it. I wouldn't dare. Well, I'm gonna do it after I pick.

It's kind of like getting up for the bathroom when you're seeing a movie. Yeah. I also wouldn't do that. Oh, you mean while people are, oh. Mid-draft. I didn't have to clean the bathroom. Well, maybe I did.

Well, you said you had a mop when people vomited. It's true. It's that much of a reach? Thanks for the bathroom. Well, maybe I did. Well, you said you had a mop when people vomited. It's true. It's that much of a reach? Thanks for your support. Okay, Rob. Are you flummoxed by these last two picks? I'm a little flummoxed just by some of the relative scarcity in some of these categories.

I feel like I know what you're picking. Whether it's the movie I like more or the category I need more. I'm gonna go with American Psycho. I'm gonna take it in drama. Wow, okay. Is that a drama? Well, it's become a comedy it's definitely is a comedy and is a thriller I'm not sure that you can qualify. Okay as a drama. I'll take it through

That's no problem is in any disagreement there. I mean, I think it's a dark comedy I'm okay. Yeah, if you want it to take it there, it's a dramedy of there. It's a drama of the soul You know, like it's a man's Category one of the soul you know like it's a man's night one of the greatest mean movies I actually don't it's very purposefully designed as a satire yeah so I would argue it's not a drop absolutely fair the best Brett Easton Ellis no adaptation adaptation I enjoy rules of attraction and rules of attraction this clears it no this is I think this is the best one. Yeah. Where did you take this out?

Is Luke going to remake this? He says so. He says so, yeah. I don't know if that's necessary. This is really good. It's not exactly the book, but it's pretty, it gets a lot of what is so funny and so smart about the book. And like, has lives on as a reference point and a life of its own.

Fail is unreal. I think riffs on the things in the book,, like sands down some badges from the book, heighten some other things, takes like the rodents out of it. Like there's some stuff that just needed to be out if you're gonna put this on screen. Okay, that's a good pick. That puts me in an interesting spot.

Shout out to Hugo Lewis. Yeah. Shout out to Chainsaws. I didn't sing the Terrier song from Best in Show. But you know, You could though. This really is a musical draft. Yeah, absolutely. The Terriers in the year 2000. We started

sweet little winky. I will take a film that was referenced earlier. Another movie that I was like, I can't believe this is happening that maybe at a time seemed great, then maybe it was like a little problematic. But I think it circled back to being amazing, which is High Fidelity, which is an amazing Americanization of an English novel about what it's like to work in a record store and what it means to be defined by your stuff.

I'm sorry, Joanna, you're looking at me like I just killed a puppy or something. No, no, no, no, no. This is the origin story of Joanna, the book was better Robinson. Like I remember when I read the Hornby book and I was like. I mean most Hornby books.

Yeah. I don't even disagree. Yeah. The two most important Robs in the world though, Rob Mahoney and this Rob. We got to stick up for each other. It's kind of a douche bag sometimes, but that's also kind of the point. I think he has some redeemable quality.

That character is me. Van, you're kind of a douche bag sometimes. It's true. Don't do that to yourself. I swear. When I saw that movie, I was like, that for all of the flaws, that character is me. As a, like, for the white boy deal,

like I connected so much to that character and still, like, I make no apologies about it. Like a lot of the stuff that he does in that movie, I would do I don't want you I realized though like how Smart the movie is about what a dip shit Rob is. Yeah, I was a teenager I just didn't really I got it in the book Yeah, and the movie I think because it they kind of like trick you with the Cusack casting

Yes, Cusack is usually this person that you're like, I'm so emotionally with the say anything guy Even if he's a little crazy, I'm with him, but he's so lost in the sauce. Misplaced, righteous, indignation, thinks he knows everything, knows nothing, has everybody on his side so they know the whole story. But him selling beta bands to people in stores, insane. That is one of the great flexes.

I mean, you worked in record stores. I did. No love for this movie? I love this film. I think I mean, you worked in record stores. I did. No love for this movie? I love this film. I think I actually am more partial to the book. The book is better. The book is better. But it was like, this was also like a very cool,

like late period, like it almost had like a lot of its roots in the nineties, but to see a lot of the Chicago Indie Rock scene in this film is a real, real hoot. Would you reconsider your Rob rankings if I submitted- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, Zoe Kravitz's Rob from the great Hulu adaptation of Hyperdome. You know how I feel about Zoe.

That season was so good. I loved it. I loved it. It was really, really good. I mean, wonderfully connected to the movie. It's one of the most baffling, and canceling. I agree.

I thought all the changes they made made sense. I thought it was like, really good. Blissfully contemporary in the way they made made sense. I thought it was like, illicitfully contemporary in the way they went about it. All the performances were great. I don't know what happened. I do not know why they canceled that. That was like one of those COVID things where it just, something got lost in it.

And it had her, like they had like a legitimate movie person star and they didn't continue to do the shows. Just an odd decision. I'm taking this movie in comedy by the way, Jack. I loved, I like really loved that TV show. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was very good. Divine Joy Randolph dancing to Come on Eileen. Just beautiful stuff.

Okay, CR, you've got to pick. In Blockbuster, I'll take Cast Away. Had to do it. Yeah. You know, at the time, I think I saw this and I was like, that was pretty cool, but this is one of the TNT ones for me. Yeah.

Where it's like over the years, just be like, oh cool, this 20 minute section, that 20 minute section, incredible ending. The set pieces are amazing. And it's an incredible Hanks run here. And And this is how many people could carry this film, you know, I think it's the best plane crash sequence in a movie Yeah, I think About the most meaningful relationship we've ever seen between two figures on screen Wilson Wilson, correct

I fucking, when Wilson had just away. Yes, I mean I can't. It's very emotional watching Wilson bob away. It was probably emotional for him too. He had to let go of Wilson to be free though man. Wilson was the last thing connecting him to the island. Painful. You know what the other scene that jumped out to me when I watched it last year was when he tries to swim out. Oh, I thought you were going to say Lansing the tooth with the,

was it all the FedEx con? That didn't bother me. That didn't bother me at all. Um, okay. Joanna. This is really tough because blockbuster is getting quite spindly. Um, so I think, I mean, I don't mean to be too on brands for our podcast, but I think I'll just take X-Men off the board. Interesting. It is an incredibly important comic book movie. It was-

This is Patrick Stewart and- Uh-huh, Ian McKellen. The origin of Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, a role he is still playing to this day. Vibranium. Is that right? Adamantium. Adamantium. Okay, vibranium is what? Black Panther.

Okay. But which is stronger, Amanda? What do you think, vibranium or adamantium? I have no idea, I can't get it. It's a debate for the ages, so it's okay that you don't have the answer. Hopefully we'll be able to talk about this for roughly the next 10 years on the podcast.

Very exciting. This is where a young Kevin Feige, who was working as an assistant for Lauren Shula Donner, got his start and his connection to the Marvel world. This is the origin story of Kevin Feige in Marvel Studios. And it's, you know, Mars in a great, you know, a great Cyclops. The jawline. I was just talking to somebody about who the next Cyclops should be.

I do, I want to have a few- Well, Amanda's boy is like, firmly rumored. Which one? Harris. Which one? The Lordy? Harris. Harris.

Oh, really? He's not gonna do it. He's not gonna do it. He's a great guy. I've seen the Cyclops. I've seen the Schwarzenegger rumors. That's who it was. He'd be really good.

He'd be really good. He was born to be Cyclops. Schwarzenegger was like, away to the Beatles, born to be a star. Short and Sider really did. He's like, away to the Beatles, he can't do both. Yeah, yeah, no, I don't think Harris can do this. I love this movie when it came out. I was so happy. Oh my God, it's life changing.

After 10 years of reading Wizard and dream casting in my mind and then getting Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart, I was like, this is crazy how good this is. And I didn't even really know who Hugh Jackman was. And he obviously was fantastic. Chris Exman is off the board. So Chris, sorry, you can't take another Bryan Singer film.

I know, devastating for you. Tough one for you. Van, you're up. He really peaked with Valkyrie anyways. So I was going to take... I was going to take X-Men. And Blockbuster is anything over 100 domestic, right? Yep, correct.

So I'll take Remember the Titans. That's what I almost took on with that. Yeah, yeah. I have to expend. Delete. Not too much to talk about. Very affecting movie. I was shamed outside of City Place Theater, Baton Rouge.

Me and Gino went to see Meet the Parrots. And when I left, we saw some of his friends, his frat brothers, and they was like, man, y'all didn't see Remember the Titans? And we was like, nah, we went to see Meet the Parents and they made us feel less black. And you were, to be fair. For that night, yeah.

Because we was like, damn, we was like, ma'am, can you deal with this? You know what I mean? They treated you like the black guy in Perfect Storms. Right, you know, that you deal with this? You know what I mean? You're like the black guy in the perfect storm. Right, you know, that guy got drowned. But yeah, so remember the Titans. Not much to say about the movie. Great movie.

Great film. Yeah, wonderful movie. So yeah, remember the Titans. Wow, blockbuster run here. Incredible musical sequence with Ryan Gosling and yeah. A lot of young stars in it. A lot of young stars that we would hear for from from years to come Okay, blockbusters are flying fast. I mean, you've got two picks here. I do

It's not gonna be a perfect game for me, but I am gonna go three for three in original. I will be taking center stage You are Today are you kidding? I love the great dance. film has to say I didn't know what was gonna happen if any of these three that um well you mentioned center stage at a I know to get what sleepover right you ever check on the room styles that saved the last no no no, but there were two ballet movies Yeah, one was the company and then the other one was center stage. What was with Neve Campbell? That was the company Right. Yeah

Yeah Yeah, he's going to okay. Oh great. Oh congratulations. Amanda you got another pick. Thank you. Yeah this one Oscar nominee is actually also getting pretty thin because so many of the Oscar nominees have gone in other categories. Rob took my number one pick, of course, because he's, you know, undefeated. Yeah, at ruining, I was going to take a breath of itch.

So I'm going gonna do Wonder Boys. Oh, right? Big deal movie. Yeah, I think so. And, you know, Michael Douglas, obviously young Katie Holmes. Which category you said? Oscar? Yeah, Oscar nominee. And by the way, do you know what Oscar it won?

Wonder Boys? Yeah. I by the way, do you know what Oscar it won? Wonder Boys? Yeah. I'm pointing this right at you. It won original song written by Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan. Bobby D. Bobby D. Yeah, this is like a, I guess they still do make like, you know, East Coast academic, you know, in trouble movies because they're making making one Luca Guadagnino coming in the in the fall But yeah for an

Great picks but it seemed like I saw this at the right age, you know, like if I saw this now Had you read the book? No, I have a shaman book, right? Yeah. Yeah Um, I was impressed I another like oh, I think I'm very grown up and I'm a grown up and I'm watching like grown up movies, Matters of the Heart and such with real actors. This book was like pre, like do a digital highlight on your Kindle and you know, still the analog obviously, you know, turning over a lot of pages like these are profound thoughts that I need to remember. And now I'm too old and brain dead to actually recall.

But there was a lot of those in this tome. Excellent robe goals in this movie, the fluffy pink robe. Oh yeah. Come on. Michael Douglas wears for most of the movie. I mean, his life, it's not actually what I want. It gets a little messy, but. It does.

You know, you'd like to, I was at the age where I was like, oh, is that, you know, what adults can do with their lives, you know, if I, if I ace all my AP classes. Yeah, and then you did. Fives only. Exactly. Fives only. And then you did. Fives only. Yeah. What can I do with their lives? You know, if I, if I, if I saw my AP classes, like can this happen? Exactly. Fives only. Fives only.

And then you did. Yeah. Bam, we're going back to you now, man. So because I, I didn't get to go to the basement, but you know. Because I should have seen it that night and comedy is about to get very contracted. It's not that many comedies off the board.

I'm gonna take meat to pants. Mm-hmm This is a great movie. Yeah, I'm gonna take me to pants. Fuck. I missed Wonder Boys. Yeah, we had a great We all had a great time Yesterday Shit yeah, you know, what's a great idea for a movie start to interrupt you've been when it's just like this guy's having a bad weekend Yeah, it's just a good idea for me. And it's Michael Douglas. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. I don't have much else to say about it. I was unprepared for how hysterical the film was going to be when I saw it. It was really funny. Yeah. You know, it was an era of great comedies that were

aimed right for my demo. Milner's Fokker, Robert De Niro, career resurgence, right there as a comedian, coming off the hills of analyze this. But no, I love the movie, so big deal. Meet the parents, easy. Blockbuster getting super thin. Yeah, that was comedy. Yeah, that was one of the big. I have not taken a Blockbuster, so I am concerned.

Okay. Oh, I'm gonna take a Blockbuster, so I am concerned. Okay. I'm gonna take a Blockbuster that no one will care to take. It is what it is. Didn't you already take another one? Yeah, you already have a take. Very true. You can still take another Blockbuster.

I am gonna take another Blockbuster. And that would be a card. That would be a card if you did that to Mal. All right. Okay, Joanne, you're up. Okay, so this draft isn't going very well for me, so I'm just gonna be purely myself. Do it. And say in comedy, I would like State and Maine.

Yeah. That's a great film that I love. If I couldn't get one Philip Sumer Hoffman movie this year, I'll take the other. So I love this movie. This movie's awesome. Really good movie. It's a great pick.

This was Mamet. What had he done like right around this time? Like is this after- The Winslow Boy. Yeah. But Like is this a Winslow boy? Yeah. Yeah. But this is after Spanish prisoner and stuff. Okay.

Yeah. Talk about a good movie. Spanish prisoner. Yeah. She loves the con. I love, I love con men movies. They don't make them enough. We've talked, we've talked, I've talked about this before.

Like, I just talked to my guy in the cage about this. What about a call man who's having one bad weekend? Now they just make them like, into girl buff Netflix shows. Yeah, like so you think they, keep telling about the one on Apple a couple years ago, Sharper. Sharper, yeah.

That one was pretty good. But you know, you didn't like it? What are you looking at? I think she's just concerned that I really can't see anything. Mallory can't see anything. And it always concerns me. Sorry. I just can't see anything. She was sitting far and she's just concerned that I can't see anything and it always concerns me. Oh, she can't see anything. She was sitting in the bar and she's winting near.

I just haven't been to the eye doctor in like 14 years. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, but like are you afraid of it? So you haven't had your hair cut in 13 months and haven't been to the eye doctor in 14 years. Ask about the dentist. I don't want to have that. I can't see you like you can't see that screen.

I support you on that one. Attention that screen is you can brush it and keep flossing and you'll be fine. She's beautiful and limits. I can make out like, hues. Can we do a. It's fine. It's on that screen, you can brush it. Anyway, floss and you'll be fine. She's beautiful in the mask. I can make out like, hues. Can we do a fake pod taping where we bring in an optometrist to meet Mallory? Yeah. How do you watch the films?

Not an issue with a basement. With passion and conviction. Their TV's really big. Two feet from the screen. It's tuning very close to our television. Okay, state and name, great pick, CR, you're up. I will take Scream 3 in action horror thriller, the one set in Hollywood,

and one of the more delightful kind of like, I think incisive entries into this fantastic franchise, one of my favorite franchises. You've got Patrick Dempsey playing a Hollywood cop, you've got Parker Posey doing her amazing lampooning of Scream Queens. Just an awesome movie. The whole Lance Henrickson backstory and stuff. 30s, 70s Hollywood, everything.

So Scream 3 is an easy pick for me here. All right. I'm missing a few key categories and Oscar nominee is getting very thin. And so I'll take one of my favorite, very favorite movies from this year, The Contender. Written and directed by Rod Lurie, the sort of reaction to the Lewinsky scandal about a woman who is put up for vice president that has, or maybe doesn't have a salacious sexual basement, snatch style history. I was going to say, if you didn't make the snatch comment.

You know, incredibly memorable cast. Both Joan Allen and Jeff Bridges were nominated. Jeff Bridges is one of the all time great movie presidents. I think in many ways Barack Obama watched this movie and watched how Jeff Ridges acted in this movie and absorbed some of those tendencies. That's such a dig. He said that. So you're saying Obama got his swag from a white man. Look at you. No, I didn't say that. That is what you said.

There was a word that you put in my mouth. I said the phrase I used was absorb some of his tendencies. Wow. So you can define that however you like. Fucking shark steak sandwich. The one I love the sandwich part. F***ing shark steak. This is a very smart and entertaining bit of ridiculousness. And if you accept it in that

way and not as like an adequate representation of our politics, I think it's a lot more fun. Also, Gary Oldman, who really did not like this movie because of the way that it was changed in the editing process, who also produced it, is actually quite good in cooking as an awful Southern senator. Christian Slater is good in it. It's funny that he was so vocally unhappy about it,

given how amazing his performance is. He's awesome in it, yeah, he's so good. And obviously closely modeling on the Strom Thurman, Lindsey Graham style, Southern right-leaning senator. Okay, Rob, you're up. You terrified me when you brought up Oscar nominee. There's really one Oscar nominee I want that's left on the board, and that's Dancer in the Dark.

Oh, holy shit. Wow, okay. Like, I don't know that there's another human being who could have starred in this movie. Some upbeat picks from you here. Yeah, you're in a cheerful mood today. But you know what? Half of this is a shiny musical. A real delightful time at the cinema.

The rest of it, not so much. Right. I kinda get why Bjork wasn't nominated for best actress for this movie because it's not very Academy-coded, but this is just one of the best performances of the year. Unbelievable movie. And I'm especially glad to have, but this is just one of the best performances of the year. Unbelievable movie. And I'm especially glad to have it,

because I think the rest of the Oscar nominees are pretty bleak, unless you want the Emperor's New Groove, which I support any of you who do. Don't knock it. It might be the worst looking Disney movie I've ever seen. A lot of younger people vote on these drafts, and they love Kronk.

You're just whipping votes yeah oh do you think that's what you think i'm pandering to the younger demographic with state and main ross i thought billy you're going straight for the ballet i don't know if everyone's new group is gonna get picked but if anybody is interested in disney history the development and production of that movie is really interesting oh the way it was a completely different movie completely changed like an aztec inspired kind of mega epic and turned into a goofy comedy. Anyhow Mallory you've got two picks. Okay um I'm like afraid that there's like that's something's wrong with this movie and I don't know that and that's why it's still here. So let me know.

Did you watch it in Lad's Basement? That's my question. Ah. That's actually a good pod. In a fashion. In a fashion, yeah. That's a good pod. Lads basements. Lads basements pods.

I mean, to be fair, that's most pods. That's just... You could rate the movies by duration. That's most pods. Enthusiasm. Enthusiasm. Yep. I thought this was gonna go like really high

first two rounds. So I... This is a classic modern interact tactic. Normally I'm like, oh, I thought it was gonna go like really high first two rounds. So I This is a classic Normally, I'm like, oh, I thought it was gonna go I'm so elated to have it and I am but I'm also like concerned What am I missing here? How is this still here? I will be selecting with joy in my heart and also terror in my heart I will be picking my my action horror thriller movie here. I'm taking Battle Royale Yeah action horror thriller movie here. I'm taking Battle Royale. Yeah, yeah. Why is that still here? What am I missing?

Nothing. Okay, I thought this was gonna go on the first two rounds. The reason why it's there is because I fucking forgot. Okay, this movie's not only incredible and obviously deeply harrowing and stylistically inventive and memorable, haunting, it's so influential on the pop culture that came in its wake. Oh, Squid Game about this movie. squid game. This is a great game.

Hunger games. Like we don't have a lot of these dystopian society has fallen. Totally forgot about it. So this movie was actually, as far as I know, never theatrically released in the United States. Rob and I did talk about this and a handful of others. And so anytime a film does have a U S distribution, we go with that date. If a movie doesn't come out in this country,

we have to go with the year that it is released, which is 2000. It is eligible. It probably didn't really make its way over to the States until- It was also banned in many countries. I mean, I saw this way later, the 2000s. This was considered like a really kind of,

a very rare case of 21st century, this is too depraved for the public, kind of outcry that you found a lot more in the 60s and 70s. So there was a point in my life where I was playing Marvel versus Capcom to competitively That's a show. Yeah, you were you were taking AP tests and we were So when you say you're playing it competitively, can you just set the scene for me I was traveling around

say you're playing it competitively, can you just set the scene for me? I was traveling around to different cities. Like, going to tournaments. Okay, but so like where are the tournaments held? There's Texas Showdown in Texas. No, no, no, but like, you know, like, hotel ballroom. No, no, in an arcade. It's an arcade. It's an arcade game, so it's in an arcade. It's in arcades. Go down to New Orleans, go to different places. I was watching, there's like all kinds of, it's hierarchy in the video game world and

all that. And after one of the tournaments, somebody put on this fucking movie because this movie is very after a video game tournament coded. I watched it, I was fucking blown away by Battle Royale. Cool. Was this before or after you were a professional pool player? Wasn't professional. Well.

Okay. But it actually leads right into that. Is that my pro? It goes for the obsessions, they keep going. It's right after pool, Barman versus Capcom 2. It's playing competitively. You really are Forrest Gump in so many ways. Mallory, you have another page.

ADHD. Okay. I'm making a decision to kind of punt on Blockbuster, which I assume I will deeply regret later, but I just, I'm going, there's a movie here that I'm excited to get to take. So I'm taking my drama now. I know you love this movie.

I feel sure a lot of us love this movie. Here are some things I love spending time with you guys. Love stories, sports stories. Um Love stories. Mm-hmm sports stories Motherfuckers won't gonna take that movie I would have thought that there was any change you want to fuck my draft if I would have thought that there was any chance you wanna fucking draft. If I would have thought that there's any chance that that movie would be drafted. I would have taken it on me. I'm feeling good.

Crazy draft draft. Yeah, like, if I would have thought there was any chance. This is a lesson for me. Really good draft. This is a really good draft. I would have took Love of Basketball once we get into the title.

I'm sorry, I feel bad. This is like the thing, I had two things that I was like, could I, three things, could I possibly do it to another person? Almost Famous with You, Bring It On with You, and Love and Basketball with Sean. I cannot believe this. You and I think we can survive. Almost Famous with you. Bring it on with you. Yeah. And Love and Basketball with Sean. I cannot believe this. You I think we can survive. This was going off the board next, if you didn't pick it. I know. It's a little disrespectful that it's the fifth round. Now

my draft is going to get really weird. I can't wait. That's a tough beat for me. I'm sorry, buddy. Great movie. Great fucking movie. Gina Prince by by the way, it's an amazing film. Okay, Rob. I'm gonna go with a drama. I'm gonna take the Taiwanese masterpiece, E. Also next to my list. Damn, this is a fast age. It's just like, he's like a scanner.

He's just reading your mind and blowing your brain up. That's two in a row that were like, right, that were, anyway. If you know how to talk about this movie on a podcast, I encourage it because if I talk about what this movie's about, it seems very small. If I try to tell you how it makes you feel, I'm gonna sound like I'm trying to convert you to a cult and I fucking am mostly.

I want everyone to watch this movie. It is, like, I just think it captures the enormity of everyday life in a way that basically nothing else does. And the idea of like what if we made a movie that made regular life feel like the most important thing in the world. It shouldn't be as revolutionary as it is but then you watch this and you're like holy shit this is revolutionary. It's a wonderful pick. Okay, I need drama, thriller action, horror, and wild card. So in drama, I will take my friend James Gray's The Yards, starring Mark Wahlberg, Joaquin Phoenix, Charlize Theron, Faye Dunaway, Ellen Burson and James Kahn. What a cast. This is a very clear homage to a certain kind of gritty,

hard-bitten seventies crime thriller that is basically the defining notion of my personality. Okay. And- It's an extremely normal thing to say. This film co-written with Matt Reeves, greatest friend. Yeah, yeah. Ever heard of him?

And now the arbiter of the Batman. One of the Batman. One of the Batman for now. The Batman. We'll see what happens. the arbiter of the Batman. One of the Batman. One of the Batman for now. The Batman. We'll see what happens. This is one of the great Wahlberg performances. Really focused and engaged Wahlberg, not manic I'm half trying Wahlberg.

And Joaquin is outrageously good as Willy Gutierrez. This is a beautiful film. The way that it's shot is absolutely amazing. Harris ABV cinematography and got stuck in the Harvey Weinstein zone and was a big bomb and was a 25 million dollar movie that made less than a million dollars, but if you've never seen this movie Highly encourage you check it out. It's excellent. Let's do a procedural question about it

The movie goes to shit when Joaquin is like at the yard and trying to bribe the security guy or whatever with NICS tickets, presumably like 2019 NICS tickets. Security guards like, no, that's not good enough. There's a 2025 NICS ticket for the playoffs. Avoid the whole movie. Wow. The tough thing about that, I mean literally in the movie is that

MSU was talking. Obviously they had just gone to the NBA finals. Yeah, they went to the finals. So like it actually isn't plausible. But when James was writing the movie, you had to be like, we were kind of low in 1997. We were not the same team that we were in 1994. That's why it's really hard to make sports references

and then be having stick throughout the time. In 2025, yeah. I mean, I think you could like buy Tesla for two front court side next tickets at this point, right? No? Okay. Maybe. A Tesla or all of them?

All of them. The whole company, I think. In comedy, I am going to pick a movie that, I think we usually only get an award sometimes. I've accidentally seen this 20 times, the replacements. K.R. Reeves sports comedy with Gene Hackman. Yeah, fuck yeah. Fuck yeah, dude. Chris Ifans is incredible in this movie. Yeah. This is a fuck yeah, yeah. Reeves sports comedy with Gene Hackman. Yeah, fuck. Yeah, I think it's incredible in this movie.

Yeah. This is a fuck. Yeah, dude. It's a great action. This is this is absolutely because you can't have love in basketball. You flip to fuck. Yeah, dude. I'm fucking pissed. But this is the I'm sure one day I was walking down the street and it was too hot and I was like, you know, I'm just going to go to the movies. What's playing? And I saw the replacements that day.

And then I have seen it like in some part, like countless other times on cable television. And it's a really, really solid sports comedy. Yeah. Okay, Joanna, you're up. I'll just keep it brief and I'll say, I'm picking a movie that I don't think is great, but I think was Indelible of the Year,

which is The Cell, an action thriller. No, I should have known, because you're a fall head. Yeah, the fall head, yeah. Tarsen. Tarsen Singh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't understand it. No! You don't have to understand it.

You just have to let the visuals take over. It's visuals pro. This was my all time JLo time, man. Yeah. Everything in it. What? I would say her performance leaves a little something to be desired. Oh yeah, but Dinofrio makes up for it without, man. Yeah. Everything in it. What? I would say her performance leaves

a little something to be desired. Oh yeah, but D'Onofrio makes up for it without, yeah. This was a JLo time. She was very powerful in this, yeah. Yeah. Really good pick and you just kind of fucked up. But I thought my board was gonna be so well done by you. Yeah, buddy.

Van, you're up. I'm gonna take, now I'm just drafting from the heart the Patriot In what category I'm taking it problematic face no Love American Beauty, I don't understand you. Yes I love American Beauty. I don't understand you. Yeah, Spacey and Gibson. The Patriots. Which category? I fucking love this movie. Wait, is this-

So it's Revolutionary War, right? No, action, action. I'm taking it in action. In action. Yeah, that's what it is. It's a great Jason Isaacs performance. Oh yeah. Great Jason Isaacs performance. I actually once talked to Jason Isaacs at the gym about it.

So I know we're on a clock, but like, is that what you lead with when you see Jason Isaacs at the gym? Yeah he was like very non-plussed that I did that. But in the future it would be Tim Ratliff? But yeah but he, Tim Ratliff. We have 15 picks to make in 25 minutes. He just said he was talking to Jason Isaacs at the gym about the Patriot. That's journalism.

You gotta ask for one follow-up. Amanda you have two picks. I do and I'm doing exactly what I want. In action horror thriller, I will be taking the 2000 classic, and Carmen Diaz's best recorded performance, Charlie's Angels. I... The most Amanda board I've ever seen in my life. I mean, when she's like, this is the funniest she's ever been,

when she like hears the bird song and she's like, they're in Carmel! It was very important to me. If you let you make seven picks in a row, would you basically have this roster? Yeah, no, because there are a couple. No, I want an American Psycho in this and I wanted Charlie's Angels in Blockbuster. But it's OK, because I have a I have an amazing backup Blockbuster, which is, of course, one of Sandra Bullock's greatest recorded performances.

Miss Congeniality. Speaking of TNT before baseball games, what were you guys like, I don't know what you were doing in 2000. I was at the cinema watching people be funny and also be undercover for the FBI. Candice Bergen, thank you for your service. Okay, excellent picks. Van van you have another pick just remarkable stuff boiler room What category in drama, oh yeah drama I'll take boiler room fucking a over-the-top Ben Affleck Rivaling rivaling Alec Baldwin's one scene heater and glen Gary Glen Ross. Let's let's almost take the temperature down I'm saying I'm just saying comes in fucks leaves into the basement out I Like this movie against my own better judgment.

Yeah? So, uh, all right, Joanna. All for drama, I'll take Ghost Dog. Ooh. Oh, shit! God damn. I was really begging on that one. I got a mint.

Oh, Lordy! I didn't know that, it came out in 2000. Yeah. Way in a samurai. Yeah. Your man purse. March 3rd, fuck my life. God.

Very good picks. Now that's a vibes pick. You just got elite double shanks. I feel like I'm in Oz. Chris, you're also missing a drama and a wild card. What are you going with? I'm going to take in drama, Christopher McQuarrie's The Way of the Gun. Sure. Oh shit. Yeah, yeah. Sounds right, sounds right.

I forgot about that movie. I got you a very top-notch movie. I'm going to take it in drama. I'm going to take it in drama. I'm going to take it in drama. I'm going to take it in drama. I'm going to take it in drama. I'm going to take it in drama.

I'm going to take it in drama. I'm going to take it in drama. I'm going to take it in drama. I'm going to take it in drama. I'm going to take it in drama. I'm going to take it in drama. I'm going to take it in drama of the Gun. Sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Sounds right. All right. I forgot about that movie. There's a very talky drama film. Like it's and there's some comedy and then there is a lot of violence at the end.

But if you thought his Reacher film was a Grimy B movie. Yeah. Yeah. Watch. Watch Ryan Phillippe Kill Dudes. Have you all considered garbage? Elmore Leonard. I feel like Way of the Gun is really good. Absolutely. Watch Ryan. Philippi kill dudes. Have you all considered garbage? Elmore Leonard? I feel like way of the gun is really, really good. Yeah, that is something that we have completely lost to television these days, too. Very true. Don't have movies that are like that. You do really like Ryan.

Philippi. No, I well, you know. When you really think it through. When he is a big birds fan, I think. That's that seems right. And he was good in Cool intentions great Are you gonna revoke his card no, I'm not getting into that okay, he's a real Any grief about anything I've been sending you like really thoughtful texts and you might talk to me about the post-season. These fucking guys are going on.

That's not true. That never happened. Do you want to tell us more about Jason Isaacson the Jail? I do want to tell more story. Yeah. Okay. I'm a saving for midnight bonus. I'm taking a pick.

I need to take an action horror thriller. I'm running out of credible titles, but there is one credible title that I quite enjoy left. It's called Pitch Black. I love Pitch Black. This is a banger of a movie. I love this movie I am a known Vin Diesel hater except in the instance of this movie and boiler room so a little if you want to make an argument for him in the original facet of furious 2 this was what he was I wouldn't make that argument but he's

solid and pitch black and boiler room in this he is on his fucking wavelength pitch black very cool kind of mid-budget sci-fi movie about a Guy who's being transported? To a prison that crash lands on like a dark planet and all the creatures that move in the dark Starting the great Rod of Mitchell Rod of Mitchell Cole Hauser great information about menstruation for people It's funny so last night I was watching A Quiet Place and I realized that A Quiet Place is a shadow reboot. It's pitch black with sound. It kind of inverts it. And also the creatures

don't look wholly dissimilar. Very good point. Yeah. Okay, next pick is Rob. I'm gonna go straight to Wildcard. And you know, it's a wild card and... Straight to wild card? Well, I mean, I only have two picks left. What's the other category? Original is my last category. I'm kind of like in a range of originals where it's like, there's a couple things I'm okay with. There's one wild card I would really like.

You never broke a sweat in this draft. I'm scared. Some rounds I am Malcolm Washington in the Criterion Closet, and I want to talk about the ways that our great artists are in conversation with each other. And some rounds I am John David Washington in the criterion closet going straight for that Jackie Chan box set and I'm going to take Drunken Master 2 aka the legend of the Drunken Masters it was released in the US in the year 2000 don't at me maybe the best kung fu movie ever made.

So uh wonderful pick but you did not go Shanghai noon here just so I'm sorry. I know. I'm gonna skip past that it'son here, just so I'm sure. I know! I'm gonna skip past that, it's in the box set, but I'm probably not gonna watch it. Understood, Drunken Master 2 is sick. All right, Mallory, you've got two picks to close out your draft. You are presently missing a Blockbuster and a Wildcard.

And then we will have six consecutive Wildcard. I took Charlie's Angels and Nostalgia Alley away from you in Blockbuster. So you did. Blockbuster is thin. There's one on the board that I could see working for you. There are actually two on the board. And it's underrated. Undrafted Blockbusters, let's just say it since you're about to pick.

How the Grinch Stole Christmas, the number one movie of the year at 261 million, beloved Jim Carrey classic directed by Ron Howard. Mission Impossible 2, widely considered the worst of the Mission Impossible at 261 million beloved Jim Carrey classic, directed by Ron Howard. Mission Impossible 2, widely considered the worst of the Mission Impossible movies at least on this podcast. What Women Want has gone undrafted thus far. Nancy Meyer's semi-classic and a huge hit,

the fifth highest grossing movie of the year. Oh, we're singing that for Van, who loves Mel Gibson. Then we go all the way down to what no scary movie. What lies beneath dinosaur where my dinosaur heads at Disney fans not not a one of them here. And then of course, Nutty Professor to the clumps. I saw it in theaters and laughed. Big Mama's House, Chicken Run and Gone in 60 Seconds.

So where are you going Mel? I'll be taking my wild card. I'll be taking my wild card. I have two picks in a row. And just as a matter of principle based on the quality of the movies Sean just read, I need that to be my last pick. Shake it around good, by the way. True, true.

My wild card is a movie that I would say shook the Franklin middle and Franklin high community. Are you sure it was this movie that did that? Some other things as well. Not Lad's Basement. I am taking Requiem for a Dream as my wild card. This was like a seminal thing to watch when you were a young person. Did you recreate any of the sequences from the film in the basement? In Lad's Basement.

No comment. Even I have a line. Even I have a line. So that's my wild card. I love that movie and saw it a lot when I was younger. Did you? What? What? What?

What? How the fuck did you say it a lot? My favorite thing to do when I was like late in high school and early college was watching fucked up disturbing movies. I have absolutely no idea. The wild card one. So, okay. That's my wild card.

My blockbuster, which is my final pick. I'm only actually considering two things. I'm not going to be doing a lot of that. I'm going to be doing a lot of that. I'm going to be doing a lot of that. I'm going to be doing a lot of that. I'm going to be doing a lot of that. I have absolutely no idea. The wild card one, so, okay, that's my wild card. My blockbuster, which is my final pick, I'm only actually considering two things here. I'm considering, because of my deep and abiding love for Harrison Ford while I was spinning,

and I am considering Mission Impossible 2, because while that is, I agree, easily the worst Mission Impossible movie. Maybe the most Mallory Cote-ed Mission Impossible movie. Also the one I have seen without question the most. Yeah. I watch it all the time. It is immensely entertaining, albeit quite poor.

And Anthony Hopkins saying, what? Take a man to bed and lie to him? She's a woman. She has all the training she needs. It's just very memorable to me. I don't think I've ever seen him say that. I was showing someone the fallout the other day

and they were like, oh, Tom Cruise can't climb that cliff. I was like, canonically, he can climb cliffs. He can climb that cliff. Canonically. Oh boy, this is tough. Do I, I kind of want to take Mission Impossible too. Should I take What Lies Beneath? Do MI2. I do love Harrison Ford so much, but I don't like horror movies, honestly. I don't, they take Mission Impossible 2. Should I take What Lies Beneath? Do MI2.

I do love Harrison Ford so much, but I don't like horror movies, honestly. I don't, they're not for me. It's not really a horror movie. It's more of a Hitchcockian thriller. Yeah. Domestic drama. I think you should take MI2 since you've seen it a lot

and can remember Anthony Hopkins lines from it. I'm gonna take Mission Impossible 2. I'm gonna do it. That's my blockbuster, let's fucking go. Great representation for John Woo. I appreciate it. Rob, you've got another pick. You've got to take an original.

An original film. I'm going to take, but I'm a cheerleader in original. Okay. Damn, that was 2000? 2000. It is. That's a, I'm just a 2000 movie. Wow, Joanna is.

Joanna was not your wild card. For some reason I thought that was a little bit earlier. Did he just get you again? Yeah. I'm sorry, Joe. Do you know the word? You know, some movies dare to ask, isn't conversion therapy kind of gay?

And they really follow through on that. It is very weird seeing Natasha Lyonne play basic, like normal everyday high school girl. Very, very startling, but funny, sweet. I love the like dollhousey, zine aesthetic of that movie, but a mature leader. Great pick. I've got a pick.

I wouldn't say this has been my best draft, so I'm just gotta be really, really true to who I was at this time. And in Wild Card, I'll be selecting the 2000 documentary backstage, chronicling the 1999 Hard Knock Life Tour, featuring Jay-Z and Method Man and Red Man. I didn't know we could do documentaries.

I didn't know that. Of course you can. In Wildcard, yeah. In Wildcard, they're available to you. Or in Oscar nominee. One could say this is a great drama. I tell you, it is. Backstage.

Remember the Dame, Kevin Lowsing? Dame and Kevin Lowsing is incredible. It's like one game. Very, very well. Yeah. This was the number one thing I was interested in when this came out. And this being right post volume three. Yeah. If we got jackets, would they be ringer jackets or Spotify jackets? They would be Rockefeller chains, obviously. This is after Meth and Red's Blackout record.

This was a very good time in American music. Beanie Seagull on this tour, you know. If you guys don't know- J.R.R.U.L. and J.R.R.U.L. was okay. J.R.R.U.L., yeah. Damedash was pissed off because they got Def Jam jackets and they were supposed to get, he wanted them to get rock out of the jackets. Yeah.

It's a crazy scene. It's the shit with that. Okay, who's next? CR. Is that me? Yeah. Last one, if you're just going Jedi, just blast shield down. I'm picking road trip.

Okay. I'm picking road trip. Okay. I'm picking road trip. Okay. Todd Phillips. Fucking going pro. Breckenmire.

Yeah. With Breckenmire. I want a gift of that please. What about Tom Green? Tom Green was in this. Blast shield down. Were you not a Tom Green guy? I wasn't a huge Tom Green guy, but...

Who watched the Tom Green documentary? He and Drew Barrymore, right? Freddie got married? No. He and Drew Barrymore got married. Yeah, they got married. That's powerful. They were in love.

I didn't even save Drew Barrymore's name when I reacted to Charlie Pate's. Can I just say it's cool? She's important. She is. And you can tell Todd Phillips has something. It's like that little bit better than what that movie could have been. I'm not even joking, it's his best movie.

I think it's more about Todd Phillips than Road Trip, but it's funnier in my opinion. I'll take Road Trip. Road Trip came out in 2000 when I enrolled at Ithaca College. This film takes place at Ithaca, and everyone was very intent on recreating as much of this movie as they possibly could. Also, Amy Smart is like my Diane Keaton kind of at this era, you know?

Yeah. Her run that she was on here. Outside Providence. Culminating with crank. Rats, rat race. Outside Providence. That crank scene is crazy. That's basement quality.

When are we doing the crank draft? That is basement quality. That's lads in basements. Okay, Joanna, now that you've been stymied multiple times with your final pick, you are That's basement quality. When are we doing the crank draft? That is basement quality. That's lads in basements. Okay, Joanna, now that you've been stymied multiple times with your final pick you are taking. I'm gonna take a film that I specifically did not see in 2000 because it caused a divorce between one of my favorite actors and his cherished director.

Can't believe you didn't take this. And it was The Beach. Which I think has aged incredibly well. Like I watched it last year and I actually think, you know, it was considered a big flop for Leo. Uh, you know, a huge rift for you and you and McGregor and Danny Boyle. Um, uh, but a great Alex Garland story and Tilda Swinton is fantastic in it and I think it actually really, really- And they don't come back together until Trane's spotting like T2.

Judgment Day. On McGregor. T2, Judgment Day. This kicks off Garland and Boyle. This is also a case in my opinion of Book is Better Than the Movie. Yeah. I think the Garland novel is based on this. I think the beach confused people.

Yeah. It's that shit. It's a crazy- Yeah, I think the- confused people it yeah, yeah, it's that shit. Yeah, I think yeah, I think that way for him And where he was in his career, I think a lot of people went to the beach thinking it was going to be a different movie Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I agree It's a movie that I always loved in theory and never to loved as much watching it But yeah, just watching last week last year. I was like, yeah really worked for me. Okay van You have got a wild card pick ahead of you. Can choose any film released in the year 2000 in the United States. Final Destination.

Yeah. I can't believe it went this long. I almost picked it. Final Destination. The thing is it's FD too. As Chris and I chronicled on this podcast. Right. FD is phenomenal. Right. I'm not nagging your pick. Yeah. And then you are. FD3 has the best. You're definitely nagging. You're definitely nagging me. But the original Final Destination

is the one with the airplane. Yeah. But not the logs in the truck. No, that's FD2. That's two. I support you, Ben. So this is my deal. So this is my deal. When I watch Final Destination, I realized that I would never see another Final Destination movie ever. Oh, shit. Ever, ever, ever, ever. I cannot watch a movie where death is the villain. It's just, it's too, it flux with me too much.

Okay? I can't do it. I was in the theater freaked out. The only other movie I thought about taking here was proof of life Another one I said everything I had to say about yeah film. It's a masterpiece Yeah, I just I wanted to throw give flowers to some other filmmakers in this You name the director of Final Destination? Is it's like Jim Levitt no James Wong no oh who was it?

Well, I think it is James Wong. Yeah, James. Yeah, because he does one. Three three. Who did two? John Ford. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That bruises the best one. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, Amanda. You've got one more pick. This draft has one more pick. one more pick this draft has one more pick. Oh shit. Just just so you know you have to materially comment. I yes okay so this is the Rhymes version of the song from the hit film.

Wow. Coyote. Coyote ugly baby. This is astonishing stuff. What else is it gonna do? from the hit film Coyote Made in Coyote ugly to okay one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's disrespectful to John Goodman. That's disrespectful to Maria Bello. Maria Bello, innocent, everything else. Who is hosing people down.

You know, we learned about bar music. I did. Like in the middle of the afternoon. Were you working in shifts or what? Yeah, no, I was not working there. I did not get up on the bar, but there was. I think that you all forgot what it was like to be 16 and going to the movies and I did not. And I saw this in theaters. And I had this on many running playlists for many years can't find the moonlight Leanne rhymes can sing. Yes, yes.

Can Piper Paribos sing? So no, no, what women want for you. No, ultimately, no, I went with my heart. It was funny. Can Piper Parabos sing? No. Know what women want for you. No. Ultimately, no. I went with my heart. It was funny. What women don't want is when we rewatched it for the Nancy Meyers Hall of Fame, I think you and I were both charmed by it. I enjoyed it.

And it obviously, its success allowed Nancy to do a lot of other things, including something's got to give, which is a masterpiece. Why would I not take Hione Ugly? Cause it's a bad movie. It is a really bad movie. That'd be the number one. It's a really bad movie. John Quickman, he works at the toll booth

and then he gets all the toll operators, you know, to make the tolls go at the same time because she's got it. She's nervous because she has stage fright. I will say the guy that she dates does not have the most charisma. It's a potato. Talk about the English guy. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, he's Australian. Yeah. Okay. It's going this bad. Sorry. This guy's already watching podcasts. He's moved on.

Yeah. Well, this has been exhaustive. Yeah. I thought we did a really good job today, man. That was fun. Declarative. I think we did a really good job today, man. That was fun. Declarative. I think some people have significantly better draft boards than others.

I mean, that's- Do you want to say on the record what you think those are? I don't want to say out loud what I think. I'm very impressed with Van's draft. Frequently busting out the Patriot in the fifth round. That was an interesting choice. Hey, fuck you guys.

I'll tell you straight up right now, I love that movie. I got to be able to pick the movies I like, guys. You do. What exercise was Jason Isaacs doing when you spoke to him at the gym? He was on the basketball court. Oh. And he was over on the basketball court

and I walked over to him, I said, you were great in the Patriot, and he said, never forget, he goes, I kill a child within the first 10 minutes of the movie. It's not hard to be evil when you do that. That's exactly what he said. Honestly, that's a great response. He was on the basketball court. Can we get a claim?

He wasn't playing basketball. He was sitting on the bench. Maybe he had just played or something. I walked over, I told him that. He was like, I kill a kid in the first 10 minutes of the movie. So he's like, it's not hard to say. So you don't have the scout on Jason Isaacs? No, no, as far as this game. I tell you what though, the scouts on Englishmen on the basketball court, way down. I can imagine.

There's other people that have been out there, terrible. What are you most surprised didn't get drafted? Well, we can, yeah, we can do a kind of quick honorable mentions. I mean, there's a handful of like, really well liked critically films that didn't go, like Chuck and Buck didn't go, Mike White's and Miguel Arteta's movie,

Cruppier, which is Clive Owen's breakthrough didn't go. I thought about doing that. I looked that up while we were, oh, okay. Is it not eligible? I think it is. I almost picked the Cruppier, but then I double checked it and something I double checked said 1998,

but I guess that was maybe like- I think the US releases 2000. Anyway, I would have picked Clive Owen and picked Clevo and that's a very good film yeah David Gordon Green's George Washington was this year I like that movie quite a bit Adam Sandler's Little Nicky a little different from George Washington relevant film a huge Tarantino huge fan of that movie Brian De Palma's Mission to Mars undrafted mission Mars is coyote ugly level movie is how I feel about that Yes, and also a great Leanne Rimes theme mission of Mars as well

Neil LaBeute's nurse Betty, which before it came out I was like this will probably the coolest movie of all time and then it was not that it's kind of weird Yeah, it was like a good move for a so I got a huge hit the whole nine yards didn't talk about that That's a blind spot cuz I really do that's a cool movie in a retouze of Maurice Perros was released Yep, I think that's probably his best movie You five seven one awesome submarine movie. Yeah, I thought Chris. I mean seafaring scary movie Yeah, I was gonna pick it earlier, Seafaring. Scary movie? I was gonna pick it earlier, but I went with Meet the Fockers instead.

Sam Raimi's The Gift, which as I've noted is one of the very few movies ever made about ESP. You never, When did you know that? You know that before? Is that a thing you like to know? On this podcast at a certain point.

I'm talking about Sam Raimi, probably to you. Okay. You remember saying that? Raimi, probably to you. But you remember saying that? Should we make more movies about ESP? I'm yeah I do like that. I like that Patriot is good. I don't give a fuck what y'all talking about. Yeah, what's the last time I've seen the Patriot before it's been a minute I genuinely do like what about Billy Bob Thornton's cut of all the pretty horses? Gone in 60 seconds? Undrafted? I can't believe it, honestly. A movie that's more stylish, cool than it is good. The trailer for that movie, you're like, this is going to be the best movie of all time.

And then the movie itself is actually quite poor. The Family Man starring Nicolas Cage was this year. Vertical Limit with Chris O'Donnell and Bill Paxton. Yep. Apex Mountain of Apex Mountains. Chris O'Donnell, what happened? I think we know what happened. Yeah.

That's another pod, he can't act. Finding Forrester? That's right. That's true. Wow. But he owned the case of place. I think it's fun. I'm sorry to Chris O'Donnell, he's a terrible actor.

He's just what it is. He was being shoved down our throat for eight years and I was like, why is this guy in these movies? He was fucking everywhere. And also he was on Ed Su, I think he used like his NCI whatever money. What was the most reported duty line from year 2000? And was it Sean Connery saying,

you're the man now dog from Fighting Forester? We all remember the sound famously on the, is it y t m n d.com? Does anybody remember this? If you just went to this, is that even available to us right now? You're the man now dog.com? Uh, yeah, you're the man now dog.com. One of the five best picture properties did not get selected. Chuck a lot. He was on that, yeah. Yeah, you're the man now, dog. This is the best thing you've ever been? Mm-mm. One of the five best pictures of these did not get selected.

Chuck a lot? Chuck a lot, yeah. I was- Never seen it. Not a good movie. Oh, I've seen, actually, book was better. The book is really good. Oh, big episode from the book was better. Do we have to review our picks for you?

Yes, let's very quickly read off our picks. So, Mallory, since you went first, you go first. Okay, in order from... Do whatever you like. Round one, I took Gladiator as my Oscar nominee. Round two, I took Snatch as my original. Round three, I took Best in Show as my comedy. Round four, I took Battle Royale as my action thriller horror. Round five, I took Love and Basketball as my drama. Round six, I took Requiem for a Dream as my wildcard.

And round seven, I took Mission Impossible 2. Rob, in drama, I have EE. In comedy, almost famous. In Oscar nominee, Dancer in the Dark. In action horror thriller, American Psycho, in blockbuster, Aaron Brockovich, in wild card, but I'm a cheerleader, sorry, in original, but I'm a cheerleader, in wild card, Drunken Master 2. In blockbuster, I've got Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. In original, I've got Unbreakable. In comedy, I've got High Fidelity.

In Oscar nominee, I've got The Contender. In drama, I've got The Yards. In action horror thriller, I've got the contender in drama. I've got the yards in action, horror, thriller. I've got pitch black and in wild card I've got backstage Chris and original. I got you can count on me in Oscar nominee.

I have the perfect storm in blockbuster. I've cast away action, horror, thriller. I've screamed three in comedy. I have the replacements in drama. I have the way of the gun and in wild card I took road trip. I love how all of our drafts ended this this day I've got Billy Elliot contentiously in original

I've got Oh Brother Where Art Thou in Oscar I've got X-Men in Blockbuster I've got State in Maine in comedy I've got X-Men in Blockbuster, I've got State and Main in Comedy, I've got The Cell in Action, Horror, Thriller, I have Ghost Dog in Drama, and I've got The Beach in Wild Card. And original, I have Bamboozled in Oscar nominee, I have Traffic in Blockbuster, I have Remember the Titans in Comedy,

I have Meet the Parents in Action, Horror,, thriller, I have The Incomparable, The Patriot. In drama, I have Boiler Room. And in wild card, I have Final Destination. Amanda. In drama, I have The Virgin Suicides. In comedy, Bring It On. In original, Center Stage. In Oscar nominee, Wonder Boys. In action, horror, thriller, Charlie's Angels, in blockbuster, Miss Congeniality, and in wild card, Coyote Ugly. I can tell no one has ever been more themselves than Amanda is on this draft.

I quite agree. It's another pretty classic draft for me, yeah. This was fun. Thank you guys. Nice job. Thanks everybody, really nice work. Thank you to our producer, Jack Sanders for his work. So thanks to Bobby Wagner.

Bye! We love you, Bob. Later this week on the show, Really nice work. Thank you to our producer Jack Sanders for his work. So thanks to Bobby Later this week on the show we're digging into Wes Anderson's the Phoenician scheme and I talked to Wes Anderson you