The Big Picture - The 2003 Movie Draft

Episode Date: April 18, 2022

We are drafting again! Sean and Amanda are joined by Chris Ryan, Mallory Rubin, and Joanna Robinson to pick their faves and foil their pals in a draft of the movies from 2003. Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guests: Joanna Robinson, Mallory Rubin, and Chris Ryan Producer: Bobby Wagner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hi everyone, I'm Ian Wright. Make sure you check out my podcast, Wright is Outs, every Wednesday on Ringer FC. Each week, I'm joined by a rotating panel of guests to talk about football, life, films, everything. Search for Ringer FC on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Take it easy. I'm Sean Fennessey. I'm Amanda Dobbins. And this is The Big Picture, a conversation show about the year 2003. And is that my daughter in there? We are drafting again. It's the Mega Movie Draft 2003 edition.

CR is here, of course, but so are two more very special guests joining us on loan from the House of R on the Ringerverse. It's Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson. Hello, folks. How are you? I need a little bit more R on the Ringerverse. It's Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson. Hello, folks. How are you? I need a little bit more Boston on the... Is that my daughter in there? We're bringing Boston back to New York.

I'm reclaiming it on behalf of Long Island, and I'm reclaiming Sean Penn and Mystic River in this podcast. Mallory, are you excited? There's been a lot of talk about introducing Mallory into the movie draft world. You are a fierce, fierce competitor in the history of The Ringer. How are you feeling? I'm delighted to be here with you all. I want to

thank you for inviting me to this and welcoming me here today. I want to particularly extend... I don't know about welcoming. You're here. I'd like to extend a particular note of gratitude to my dear friend and longtime colleague, Amanda Dobbins. We've had some rough draft history between us in the past. I think it worked out great. I mean, I feel great about it having won both the judges vote and the fan vote on Twitter. That's true. But Mallory, when you enter the movie draft universe, you would learn once again that whatever happens on Twitter does not matter to me at all. So I stood my ground with you. Chris Ryan was also there and Chris just absolutely fell apart immediately, despite actually having

read a comic book before. I hung in. I made it to the final round. I think my strategy of drafting only hot people in the superhero draft really stands the test of time. And we'll agree to disagree on how the results played out. I think what a lot of people don't know is that Amanda and I shared an office at the time and had to go back to the same space and sit there together. In the chill. In the chill. For hours, days, weeks, months and even years wow but again I'm delighted

to be here with you and I just I just can't wait to draft with you all today thank you for having me one of the upsides of the movie drafts is that we started doing these

when we no longer had offices to sit in or share with each other this has been a COVID only experience and it's been I think it's been healthy for the relationships

between myself Chris and Amanda in that time hopefully we won't wound each other Joanna you are a newcomer to this and this draft experience here at the ringer. How are you feeling? Are you, are you prepared for about candy, but I think you do. So the word's on the street. And actually in prep for that draft, I watched that superhero draft because it's on YouTube and it was the scariest thing I've ever seen. It made me actively anxious. That being said, here's my advantage I see as I come into this. You all know each other. You've known each other for so long. I listened to the 94 draft. You're basically speaking in code to each other because you know what the other person is going to pick.

I love that. You don't know what I'm thinking. You don't know anything about me. It is. Mal might know a few things better than that. Joanna's going cradle to the grave. Number one pick. I can zig when you think I'm going to zag and I'm excited to

introduce that chaos. Amanda, how are you feeling? You're on the precipice of a big moment in your life and it's this draft. So how are you feeling about that? It's true. Well, we've been making jokes for a week of will this draft bring on another life event? We are recording this once again in the past for the future. I don't know. Thank you for everyone working on my timeline. But will Mallory push me into labor? It's up for debate. We'll see.

If Sean couldn't, I don't think Mal can. That's true. Mallory, how many spreadsheets did you make? One spreadsheet, but it has one, two, three, four. How color-coded is it? We're working with about 11 colors. See, this is what I was anticipating. I'm going to be

doing some breath work in between. I'm a little worried about not having gone to an eye doctor to get some corrective lenses before this because the font is so small. I'm doing a split screen. I don't currently have a printer. But, you know, Amanda, to the point about labor, if you'll allow me to share this quickly, I want to just say, on the one hand, I'm here today with a watch t-shirt, right? Because I'm trying to get in Sean's head by appealing to the CR army. That's part of the strategy for sure.

I'm impervious to this nonsense. As the winner of most movie drafts, I cannot be distracted. Impervious. It doesn't bother you at all. And that's why you start every single movie draft by talking about it. In terms of Amanda, the future, bringing life into the world, and my stated and very sincere

desire to bring a more calm and graceful demeanor to this shared exercise today, I do feel that it's necessary to share that Amanda and I had the privilege of seeing Spider-Man No Way Home together two weeks ago. And the following moment transpired, right? See Amanda holding a cell phone. Now, as Sean, you know, because you were there too, we had to deposit our cell phones in little paper baggies, right? Hand them over.

And I said to Amanda, how did you pull that off? And she said, you know, I'm pregnant. And I said, good thinking. And she said, no, I just like actually need my phone with me. It's not a strategy. And so I'm self-aware enough to know that even though I intend to behave differently today, I may not be capable of it, but I will try my best. Mallory, that's the best gift you could give me.

Thank you. Do you not realize that you have already come in so hot, Mallory? Like, are you just that unaware? I genuinely don't. No, I feel like I have like a really it's a totally different thing like superhero draft I had to defend home field for that right I had to bring it this like this is the movie there was there was no no rule that you had to bring it you did it it was not a playoff and you called me it as a seventh seed

now the movie drafts are very very important to me but they are completely and you've called me it as a seventh seed. Right? And the opening round will go as it does. Mal, the movie drafts are very, very important to me, but they are completely made up and the results do not matter. So let's just decompress from the start. Let's all channel CR. You know, CR is just out there to have fun, right? How are you feeling, Chris?

I just have a pack of Camel Lights with the words old boy hammer scene written on them for the extent of my Excel sheet. Pivot into 2003 then, Chris. Who were you in 2003? What were you doing? I had just met the love of my life, Sean Fennessey. Wow.

No, you know what? I have to say. Sean is literally blushing. 2003. I think, Sean, was this right around when we met though, right? I think it was actually at the beginning of 04. Because that was when I came to New York officially. I don't think we met when I was at Spin.

I don't think. No, I was working at Kim's, which is a record store, was a record store in St. Mark's Place in New York City. Big city dreams, big city heart, big city nightlife. Loved going outside in New York City at those times. And I met the the woman who would become my wife the lovely phoebe and we were just having a burgeoning relationship so when i go back and look at some of these movies from the 2003 year i i've been known to be um pretty

passionate defender of the art of cinema on this podcast and just like i we recently just did one i have no idea when it's being released but i feel like I threw my gauntlet down about how movies are back. This is a bad movie year. It's awful. This is a terrible movie year. So it's going to be an amazing draft. I just was like, Oh,

I think I saw four movies this year. I've seen a lot of these movies in, in retrospect, but I do think I, I went to the movie theater like five times this year. So I, I, I chose this year because I think

that it is reasonable to say that it is a bad movie year, but the highs are very high from the movie year. And so I think what it does is it's going to make this seem even more competitive because once like eight or nine movies come off the board and 30 total will come off the board because of the five participants, it might get a little weird and a little bit cutthroat. And throwing the piranha Mallory into the goldfish tank, there's something exciting about that. I think seeing how Joanna responds to intensity, I'm excited about that. Joanna, let me go to you. Who were you in 2003? What were you doing? And what were movies to you? I was in college. It was in a small college town where there were two movie theaters, one that played the blockbusters, both owned by the same company, one played blockbusters, one that played the

art house. And I would just ping pong back and forth. I was dating someone at the time whose taste did not align with mine at all. So this is actually the year that I figured out I could just go to movies by myself. I don't know if you guys remember what year that was. Congratulations. I wish I had figured that out this year and I did not. You're an inspiration.

I definitely saw The Core because I was dating a geologist, but I saw a lot of other really good movies because I decided I could just go by myself. That would be amazing if you could only see movies, if one of the people seeing the movie had a connection professionally to what was being depicted on screen. It's like you could never see Jurassic Park unless you were friends with it.

That's why Kill Bill is my favorite movie from this year because I was dating a female assassin at the time. And then I married her. Wow. Luckily. Incredible. Yeah.

So it was, it's a very bad movie year, like an incredibly bad movie year, but I actually have a lot of fond memories of actually even some of the bad movies I saw because of the people I saw it with. You know that thing where you're just sort of in college and you lower your standards maybe? Or maybe in college is when you heighten your standards. I don't know.

But I lowered them and I had a blast in some of these movies. Dobbins, who were you in 03? I was also in college. It was my first year in college. So I, like Chris and Joanna, have only seen the junkie movies this year. That's not true. You catch up. But I was definitely going to.

I also went to college in a small college town, one theater, and just really seeing the dumb stuff. I was very shocked to learn, for example, that Old School did not make the blockbuster requirements. Because Old School was certainly the most watched movie where i went to college in 2003 um the other funny part of this in addition to agreeing that the it's just like a total junk year is um this was really at the height of going home for the holidays from college and seeing a lot of movies with my dad and my dad picking just the grimmest possible movies to see over like on the holiday i think like tennessee volunteers highlights yes right that and then you go see the cooler and 21 grams and mystic river on like you know major holidays all of, I'm not making that up.

All of those were chosen. 21 grams with a parent is sick. That's just the incredible film going on here. 21 grams on a date is worse. I don't know if that's

Thanksgiving or Christmas, but it was one of the two and the cooler was the other. Oh God. So that's special, you know, just like a lovely memory of my dad

just getting it totally wrong. We switched to rom-coms after that. Now, 2003, were you in college as well? No, I was in high school. Wow.

The babe of this podcast. I turned 17 in September of 2003. So I was 16 and 17 across this calendar year, back half of my junior year of high school into the first half of my senior year of high school. I graduated in 2004, but it's at the beginning of this like bloom of independence, right? Had a car, could drive to the movie theater to see movies on my own with friends. And this was in general, the phase of my life where I was just getting really into movies overall. Now, some of that was the new releases

that came out this year, you know, for an IP lover like myself. Were you already flying the flag of intellectual property in franchise filmmaking? Oh, yeah. I mean, I was like at the theater for the re-release of the original Star Wars trilogy with my dad before the prequels came out, you know?

Weaned on the stuff young. Yeah, huge daredevil head as well as i recall right oh yeah i did see that in theaters i can't lie to you yeah so you know having return of the king and two matrix movies this year i have like very vivid memories of seeing the matrix films in theaters with my neighbor and best pal and also her dad but this was also a time where I was just exploring movies more broadly, like when I was around this part of high school. I mentioned this to Sean recently on The Ordinary People rewatchables. I was like printing out the AFI top 100 and going through the list of

best picture winners and talking to, shouts to Mr. Reed, one of my favorite teachers in high school who was like really into Daniel Day-Lewis and was like, you should watch In the Name of the Father and My Left Foot. And then I did and felt like forever changed, right? So it was just a big year for me in the year of movies. And you have like the quieter films from this year mixed with the pomp and circumstance

of the big blockbusters. And so even though many of these movies are very, very, very bad, and I'm relieved to hear all of you say that, it's still a special movie moment in my life. And I'm delighted to be here with you. And I did want to ask, if Amanda goes into labor midway through the pod,

what happens to her remaining draft picks? Does Bobby make the picks? Yes, do we change the number of total picks? No, I thought about this. I have the list. I'm going to draft Bobby. Did you preset a draft order? No, I'll text, I'll, you know, text him.. I'm going to draft a draft order. No, I'll text.

I'll, you know, text. You're not going to give me power of attorney. Well, I just thought Bobby could stand in. You know, I'm always looking out for you, girl. That is true. I appreciate it. But like Bobby's held us together. I'm terrified of you.

Right. Also that. And then I would have Bobby text me if anything gets taken. Okay. Because, you know, as I understand it, it's not like a, well, God, I hope it doesn't happen in like 15 minutes. That would be really dicey. If I have to give birth at home because I'm here drafting with you chuckleheads, like, I don't know what to say. It will have been a sacrifice nobly made for good podcasting.

Sean, we didn't get to your 2003. I don't know why you're skipping out on this. 2003 was my last year of college. It was the year I quite badly began writing film criticism for my college newspaper. In fact, the first movie I ever reviewed was a film

that I don't think will be drafted here today. It's David Cronenberg's Spider. Has anyone on this Zoom seen that film? I have seen that film. It's perhaps the smallest of the Cronenberg's Spider. Has anyone on this Zoom seen that film? I haven't seen that film. It's a very small, perhaps the smallest of the Cronenberg movies, starring Mal's number one and pretty high on the Amanda list too,

Ralph Fiennes, as a deeply disturbed man and not a sex pod. What was the rating system at the college newspaper? Was it like, I give this three out of five cans of Genesee? What was it like? It was probably something related to DP dough. Are you guys familiar with DP dough?

Only from your tales about it. DP dough is the finest food in the history of all time. It was a calzone company that was offered in Western New York around the years 2000 through 2010. Mal, I'm surprised you've not heard of it, having gone to Syracuse. They did extraordinary work in calzones. That's all I'm going to say. Very gifted. Was it like a frozen calzone or a place that you went? It was to order. It was like for $9, they would deliver a fresh calzone straight to you. And I would be like, I'll have three of those for dinner tonight like on a regular basis needless to say i weighed a lot more then than i do now because i was subsisting entirely on dp that's a very specific timeline for these guys were they brought down by the housing crisis or what what happened to uh dp though yeah they were backed by fannie mae and

it just all went bust unfortunately so uh shame actually may still be around if they want to come back that they have a sponsor here in the big picture. You are welcome. And I thought 03 was an interesting movie year in part because it's like a bridge year where there's a lot of IP entertainment, to Mal's point. There are a lot of big, special-seeming,

intellectual property movies, and then there's a lot of junky stuff before Marvel kind of figured out what they were trying to do. It's a pretty dodgy Oscar year in general, I would say. A couple of well-remembered but not necessarily loved movies from that year. This is the year that The Return of the King won, which I keep pointing back to when I keep having insane conversations with Amanda about the Oscars and why the Oscars can't remember it wasn't that long ago when they rewarded something like this and it didn't seem that crazy. It wasn't such a bad idea.

It's also the year of Pirates of the Caribbean, which I feel like is a pretty critical movie in recent history too. Obviously, everything that's transpired with Johnny Depp has made it much more of a difficult topic of conversation, but that movie was an extraordinary phenomenon that I think

actually is as responsible for a lot of where we have gone in the movie culture in the last 20 years as the Marvel stuff, as Pixar and as DC and all those other things. Because for Disney, it was like, we turned a ride into a movie franchise. And that's not stopping anytime soon either. So it's an interesting one to unpack. I still think we're going to wind up with a pretty good slate of movies. I'm not too worried about it. Speak for yourself. Your concerns, Ciara? I think there are 30 good movies up with a pretty good slate of movies. I'm not, I'm not too worried about it. Speak for yourself. Yeah. Your concerns. I think there are 30 good movies this year.

Yeah. We could do 30. Yeah. But after about 12, you're really going on a personal preference journey. Or. Yeah. Because there's not a lot of.

There's some good little ones. There are good little ones, but there are so many just truly terrible sequels that did not become series or IP behemoths. Just a lot of people being like, Legally Blonde 2, yes, we're going to try it. And it did not work out. It's really tough. Everyone so far is living up to what I expected. Joanna is searching for positivity in the darkness.

Mal just absolutely stone-faced, just ready to battle. Amanda seems bummed out, but I think you're going to turn it around. Amanda, I think you're going to find six that really touch you. Thank you. That's such a beautiful sentiment. Why are you trying to psych me out right now? I don't trust you anymore. I don't trust Mallory.

I believe in you. I trust Joanna. I trust Chris, even though he doesn't get to be the steward of my draft picks. I'm sorry. That was really sad. I feel bad now. I'll say this, Amanda. I'm not going gonna feel bad about stealing a favor from anyone else except like there are a few where i'm like i think amanda would be bummed i you are there's like a x factor

here where i'm not sure on a couple uh and it's you that i'm worried about and i'll like try not to be as angry as i am with sean and ch and Mallory. But, you know, I also. Because our Venn diagram is closer to a circle. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, it's good to know now. So I'll try to keep the rage to a minimum.

What is this? Hold on. You two are enemies today. Thought you didn't care, Mal. There's no alliance. There's no, like, false show of support and allegiance. You are opposed in this exercise, Chillery. Your ambition is a threat directly to each other.

Mallory, I thought you were going to be Chillery, like real chill. I can actually feel my heart racing. I don't know if I should be allowed to do these things. I don't want to die on one of these Zooms one day. I'm just going to drop dead. Can I just say very quickly, hearing about your spreadsheet for this pod, Mal, I'm reminded of when you came to work at Grantland. And at the time, I thought I was the king of unnecessary spreadsheets and over-organized, over-determined management.

And you really wowed me. You really took my breath away when you came in all those years ago. And not actually in a good way. I was actually like mortified and I've been mortified ever since. Thanks. You're my manager and mentor. Can I tell you that when Mallory was like kind of courting me for the ringer,

she was like, we would show each other our show notes to sort of understand that we were both on similar pages when it comes to like over intensive show notes. Sean, you do a really intensive show note too though. I do. I've seen your succession show notes. As Amanda can attest. Yeah, but it's nothing.

Let me tell you about being in the room while Mallory is writing those show notes with like two hours to go on the new Mac keyboard that only lasts like two months at a time when she's using it. I had a run where I went through multiple computers in a short span of time.

New clock city. One take CR cannot identify with any of this. He does not need no writtens. You are the Jay-Z of podcasting. You always have been my friend. So you guys are all familiar with how this goes. For those of you who are listening to the movie draft for the first time,

there are six categories we draft in a snake fashion. I'm going to read the categories now. Is everybody okay with these categories that I picked out? We've been keeping them pretty consistent of late. What if I said no right now? Well, then you might have to be booted from this draft. Okay, here are the six categories. Drama, comedy, Oscar nominee, action or horror, blockbuster,

and the threshold for that is $100 million or more at the box office domestically. That's annoying. Number six is wild card. So there are a number of movies that qualify for blockbuster in this year. 29, in fact. I know that there's a very, very healthy group

at 80 million that would have been lovely to include, but you make the rules. Tough shit. That's a shame. I haven't even considered what considered like well did you just say tough shit to me are you okay the rules you had a period of time where you could have objected to them oh my god wow start the draft joanna you thought you were part of one thing but you're part of another thing and i i welcome you joanna's always telling me how much she appreciates my positivity right yeah everyone else gets it but the three of us we know better getting it all out of the way early

we've always known better Bobby why don't you come through and help us out with a draft order I've never been as nervous in my entire life as I was doing a fantasy baseball draft while sitting across the table from Mallory and then at the end of it she was like you did a good job and I was like I can continue on living now okay just remember how much Roscoe's chicken we had inside that moment in time we were

fantasy draft where someone didn't order pizza that was like a like that became like a documentary yeah I'll remember that until the day I die I have already determined the draft order. I'm happy to open it up to an audit. I determined it through a random generator online. You've already determined the draft order?

Before you protest this, it's already been discussed many times on movie drafts. So let me just read you the draft before you actually protest. It will be Mallory selecting first sean selecting second joanna selecting third amanda selecting fourth and chris you are selecting last wow okay okay me sean joe amanda chris i think this is good i feel confident about this sheesh that's all i have to say she's stretching i'm so stretching right now. Yeah, you need to stretch now because you're going to make one pick

and then you're going to be sitting on ice for like 30 minutes, Mallory. So, you know, save that for when you have nothing else to do. I will say I'm glad this is digital because actually the most intimidating part of the superhero draft was like Mal rifling through her notes.

Yes, when they were actually printed out. Yeah, the papers just sort of, yeah, shuffling. I should have had my inhaler on hand. That was an error. Now, what do you, there's one pick. This works so easily for you.

I'm ready to make it. I'm just waiting for you to tell me when to begin. It's, we started like a minute ago. We're just watching you crack your neck for like a minute. I'm not doing group stretches or like lunges or does anyone have any like an orange slice? Listen, Bo Jackson, let's just go.

Just do it. Take your win and go. Oh my God. Holy shit, Mal. This is a huge mistake. You know what you want to take. Huge error on my part. Sons of Gondor.

Rohan. My brothers., my brothers. Oh my God. Jesus Christ. I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me a day may come. Oh my God, you're doing like the whole speech, aren't you? Do you have this up? When we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship.

But it is not this day. I am selecting with great pride and joy. A little ditty called the Lord of the Rings, the return of the king. And I am taking it in Oscar nominee because as previously mentioned, while Blockbuster is often the category to target first that is not the case this year what a movie what a movie in my life what a movie in this movie year this was clearly the number one overall pick in the draft this is like mike trout in a shitty baseball year right this puppy made not only well clear of Sean's domestic box office

threshold, he cleared a bill globally, okay? 11 Oscar nominations, 11 wins. We're talking sweep here. Best picture, best director, on and on and on the list goes. And for all of the jokes that you might want to make about the number of endings, I would say that's how many fond memories I have of seeing this movie in the theater with my dad in 2003. And that's how many fond memories I have of returning to it nearly every year since. I know that no one on this Zoom can argue with me. I know that my fellow draftees carry the same tradition.

I know that Joanna watches this movie every single year. This was clearly the pick. It is a seminal, indelible movie and fantasy tale. It is a massive influential movie in terms of the IP era that we've been living in for the two decades since. And crucially, in terms of landing with strength and grace, a vast, sweeping fantasy tale. And when you say to me,

do you remember the Shire, Miss Mallory? I can only say yes, I do. With fondness and joy and love in my heart, I can't carry this draft for you, but this pick can carry it for me. Did you write that? Is this written?

Did Tony Kushner write that for you? Mal, you know this is a podcast, right? Like there's a time limit on these. Oh my God. This is a really joyful moment. I hope you're hydrated. Mallory, I thought that was a great pick. I just want to be clear.

I do not rewatch this movie every year. I just want everyone listening to know that. I've seen're hydrated. Mallory, I thought that was a great pick. I just want to be clear. I do not rewatch this movie every year. I just want everyone listening to know that. I've seen it once. I have no idea what that whole opening quote that you read was, but good pick. I didn't even bother to put this on my list. Yeah, me either. Just because I knew I wouldn't get it. And if I did get it, I would just get screamed at by Frodo here.

If you had gotten the number one pick, would you have taken it? No, I would not have. I thought about it just to watch Mallory's face. I wouldn't have. That's bullshit. Yes, you would have. I would not have.

Okay. Okay. Mal, you got the number one pick and the film that you're most excited about and you're very mad and I don't know why. I'm thrilled.

I'm elated. This is a new horror state. It's only going to get scarier. Thank you. Now you have to watch as eight other picks are made before it returns to you.

Thank you for the soliloquy. I have the number two pick. I find it interesting that you did not select that film in Blockbuster. I am going to select a film in Blockbuster. One of my favorite movies,

a film that I'm not really too worried about Amanda or Chris selecting. Although maybe that will change in the future in movie drafts for Amanda. That movie, of course, is Finding Nemo.

One of the great Pixar films. Jesus. Going in Blockbuster. Great one. I feel great about it because Blockbusters are kind of dog shit this year. This is the Sam Bowie pick

right here. What? Are you crazy? This is a great pick. This might be the only time I compliment anyone all draft. I've never seen it you're out to lunch dude

you don't this is this is a blind spot for you this movie is beloved it's pretty good it's fine yeah they're underwater it's fine it's not like it's not top it's not cream of the Pixar crop

is it no I think it's I think it's in the 20 I think it's in the 75th percentile and also let me tell you something. New dad alert over here. Sure. Finding Nemo as a new dad.

Holy fucking shit. Are you serious? Very upsetting to watch this film. Of course. Do you know how many movies you've seen that were really upsetting before you came a dad and you just didn't have any heart at all? That was then.

This is now. This is me podcasting now, today, in the year 2022. It's all happening to me. It turned his Albert Brooks era of life. And also, Albert Brooks, one of my favorite writer-directors of all time. So, this is kind of a no-brainer.

It's a great pick for you. I love this for you. Thank you, Joanne. I appreciate your support. Chris, shame on you. I'm mad that you tried to take me down. I wasn't trying to take you down. I'm just surprised that you went here. I think you probably could Chris, shame on you. I'm mad that you tried to take me down. I wasn't trying to take you down. I'm just surprised that you went here. I think you probably could have caught this on the backside of this first round. There's no chance.

There's no way. Well, I don't think me or Amanda or Joe are going to take it. No. Joanna, you were not going to go after this? No. I guess I could have gotten it on the backside. But that was a little bit surprising.

I would have guessed that Joanna would have been interested. You're cooler on it. It's on my short list. It's there. It's just I'm not. My heart doesn't beat. Is it my turn?

Can I go? Well, this is. Yes, it is your turn. And that is the thing about drafting with new people. We don't know Joanna. We don't know what move she's going to make. She might be ready to take Ongbok right now. No, the Thai warrior will have to wait.

I've played movie drafts, not with you guys, but on other podcasts before. And here's the number one rule I learned, which is that strategy is one thing, but if you don't play your passion card first,

like you have to, you have to, if you're going to care about not having it, you got to go for it right away. So this is a, this is a tale of, of the seven seas.

It's a high playing adventure. CR is fucked. Playing in drama. That's tough. It is Master and Commander Cole in the Far Side of the World. I'm so, I love Joanna. This is the best. No, no, no, no.

Do you know how rare it is for me to find a fellow, a fellow like Aubrey head? Oh my God. Oh my God. Okay. So here's the deal. This is Peter Weir's incredible, should have been a franchise, wasn't a franchise, Master Commander, Culling the Far Side of the World, the Beautiful Mind Boys, Russell Crowe and

Paul Bettany back together again. I was, the reason I watched this film and have watched it as many times i have is actually my sister is a huge patrick o'brien fan star trek next generation fan horatio hornblower fan like this is her vibe and i have been infected with the love of this uh i think this is a beautiful beautiful beautiful film like physically beautiful if you've never seen it on the big screen i feel sorry for you but go find the biggest television you can find and watch this movie. The contrast between the gorgeous open water shots and then the cramped confines of the below deck action. I rewatched a bunch of movies for this draft, actually. And I was like,

you don't have to rewatch Master and Commander. You've memorized. But I did it anyway because I just love it so much. Top five self-surgery scene in this movie. Yeah. I get mad at Jack Shepard on Lost for trying to do this. But Paul Bettany, I'm like, you can do it. Go for it. Great pick.

I think it was the right pick. I could feel Chris's chill of recognition in that pick. I'm just, the soul is recognizing its counterpoint in another. That's all this is. That's beautiful. So who's for? Is it Amanda or Chris? It's me. It's Amanda. Amanda. Okay. All right, Amanda, you're up. I was incredibly nervous when Joanna was talking about picking your passions because as she said, she did have the element of surprise. Master and Commander is not my passion. Lost in Translation is. So I will quite obviously be taking Lost in Translation so that I quite obviously be taking lost in translation so that i don't have to come to anyone's home later tonight and murder them um i'm gonna take it in

drama okay which is maybe not what other people would do but frankly i think it's there aren't that many dramas that speak to me from this year, possibly because, like I said, I was in college just like watching old school on DVD a bunch of times, which, you know, everybody has their own form of education. But Lost in Translation, the Sofia Coppola movie, we have done multiple episodes at this point on what Sofia Coppola's work means to me. So I will not bore people anymore. But this was also my gateway. I think this was my first Sofia Coppola movie because I don't think I was cool enough to see Virgin Suicides in high school.

So this kind of opens the door, not just to a filmmaker who I love, but, you know, she did win the Oscar for original screenplay. She thanked Wong Kar Wai in her speech. I saw in the mood for love as a result of this. I started like, you know i saw spike jones movies because i wanted to know who this movie was about so it really helped me become um the a watcher of film and it rules and thank god i got it i had no intention of ever drafting this film despite liking to uh like enjoying needling you about these sorts of things. Sure. This was yours.

CR, you have two picks. Okay, here's what's going to happen. I'm going to pick Kill Bill in action. I'm going to pick old school and comedy. And now, Bobby, you can punch in Kamala Harris saying, we did it, Joe. I got my two favorite movies from this year going fifth. That's pretty good.

Nice little Saturday. Yeah. I don't really know what else to say about Kill Bill in old school. It hasn't been said before. I always find like a little challenging. I will say that Kill Bill was like just the phenomenon movie of my life this year from this year, like just in terms of the soundtrack in terms of uh his sort of nominal comeback i guess if you want to call it that and also just like the emergence of uma thurman is like this instantly iconic character is the bribe um one of my

favorite uh action movies of the decade the martial arts stuff in this movie is astonishing very very bloody movie i don't know if people have the stomach for it, but amazing film. And then Old School, you know, I'm just a Frank the Tank at heart, I guess. It's tough. You strike me more as a blue. I think this is where maybe, I think Vince Vaughn's peak for me right here

is in terms of the comedic acting. But yeah, I love Old School. It's a very, very watchable movie for me. So I thank all of you. Right here is in terms of like the comedic acting. But yeah, I love old school. It's very, very watchable movie for me. So I thank all of you. I think everybody got what they wanted. This is amazing. Yeah.

Sean, first round. Everyone's happy. It's absolute just chaos and despair from here. Oh, yeah. Pretty excited for what comes next. Do you think in a pre-dad world you would have like, because I would expect you go straight for the Tarantino. You wouldn't go for Kill Bill in a pre... He's growing.

I'm not. I've stopped growing. Stay in this rut with me, Chris. Those were one, two, kind of no matter how you cut it. I just think that the blockbusters this year are pretty bad. And so I kind of wanted to choose one that I actually felt good about. But maybe that may have been a mistake. CR, we just talked about this on another movie draft recently,

but if you're in the first spot or you're in the final spot in the drafting order, you have a much bigger advantage than anybody else. And when we expand it to five, especially two, three, four, you're in kind of a tough spot.

And this is, you know, CR reaping the benefits and reaping the benefits of idiosyncrasy, because if you had not gone master and commander, he almost certainly would have, because I know Chris loves that movie. But maybe this worked out better for him that you did take it. Who knows? That being said, Amanda, we're back to you with another pick.

Yeah, this is really working out for me. In Oscar nominee, I will be taking Something's Got a Gift. Diane Keaton, the only person nominated, but I don't know. Like, I don't know that this would have lasted another round on the board it would have and and and then I think that it's a pretty weak Oscar year so even though Diane Keaton is I think the only nomination Nancy Meyer is somehow not nominated for something's got to give uh which is really unfair Nancy Meyer's unfair does not happen yeah it's great it's a great script this is this is peak nancy myers this is when it all comes together okay in all senses of the word and i think this is also when everyone like starts taking her oeuvre seriously as

an oeuvre of sorts um incredibly rewatchable tremendous jack nicholson performance can't believe that she doesn't pick kiana reeves but you know what can you do this this controversial but that's actually my top nancy meyer's kitchen is something i think it's the i think i agree with you it's the like the peak the essential the archetypal. I have a real soft spot for the it's complicated kitchen. I don't really understand why she wants to renovate it. I know. But that's more of like a Santa Barbara vibe for me, you know, and she's got the garden outside and the pool.

But I agree with you. This is the kitchen that dreams were built on. Anyway, Oscar nominee, something's got to give. Thank you very much. I'm really happy for you, Amanda Amanda that was not on my draft board so it's fine that would have been my pick of the blockbusters left that would have been my pick so I'm glad you played it

because it really is I didn't know and there are other people who care Sean it's really dregs in the blockbuster category here it's not about being happy for her it's you're mad at her because she got something that you were planning to draft. This is the attitude

you have to bring to this game. No, you're right. Sean was so positive for a while, but now he's realizing that by Chris taking Kill Bill, he walked across the table and just cut his head off, right? Yeah.

Blood is just spraying onto the ceiling. I am what I am. I love my daughter. What can I say? I make no apologies. She would not have an opinion one way or the other if you am what I am. I love my daughter. What can I say? I make no apologies. She would not have an opinion one way or the other if you had picked Kill Bill.

I actually psyched myself up. I was like, you have to be meaner on this draft, Joanna, because I know... Anyway, I'll be less Pollyanna, I promise.

My turn? All right. I mean, let's just go friggin' back to the ocean and I'll just snag Pirates off the board. Wow.

It's like Dimension Returns on the franchise, for sure. All the Johnny Depp stuff, I'm here with you. That first one. Yeah.

It was pretty dope. It was a recurring adventure. That's John's favorite director right there. That is my guy. Truly, Gore Verbinski is the unsung hero of the big picture

uh it made orlando bloom interesting how did it do that i don't know i mean it's just like there's a lot of of magic uh play with pirates of the caribbean i definitely went into that movie in 2003 with some friends and we were ready to rip it to shreds and make fun of it because we're like let's go see the movie based on the ride it's gonna be hilarious and then you just have a great time i mean that script shouldn't work. They go back to that Treasure Island like four different times. It's so sloppy and messy and you're still having a great time. So no matter what's happened since in 2003, this was an incredible film, Pirates of the Caribbean, colon, Curse of the Black Pearl.

It made Orlando Bloom interesting. I knew you were going to say that. We were all running Legolas on our hands for years at this point. Oh, come on. I was trying to tell if Mal knew she was allowed to talk until it was her turn.

Legolas? Are you kidding me? I can't stand by it and not mention Legolas whenever the opportunity presents itself. I am genuinely a big fan of the surf down the stairs move in Twin Towers. Genuinely, whenever the opportunity presents. I am genuinely a big fan of the surf down the stairs move in Twin Towers,

like, Twin Towers. Like, I genuinely, I do love that. But then he, then he does it again on an elephant's trunk

and you're like, eh, I've seen your moves, Legolas. Seen them all. Perfecting his craft. That movie is a small miracle of conglomerate entertainment,

I will say. It's got a weird reputation now because of all the sequels and everything that came afterwards. But, it was really fun at the time and it was surprising because i i too was like this will definitely suck and was in the theater and i was like oh this is pretty pretty cool pretty clever all right i have a pick now i feel like this is where things are starting to get a little bit thin

um there's a pretty obvious it's a pretty obvious action movie that I think it would be a mistake to overlook here and I'm just gonna take it it's bad boys too damn it this is this is the this is the pinnacle of Michael Bay some might say it's the rock or Armageddon I know it's them driving a Hummer over a

shantytown. Yeah. This is the 360 degree shootout sequence inside the drug dealer's house is, and I've spent a lot of time thinking about writing about memorializing the works of Michael Bay. And this is Michael Bay when he has become sentient, truly self-aware of what he is capable of. Um,

just an amazingly fun movie. And obviously it's got Will Smith and Martin Lawrence, so it's hilarious. I have no idea what the plot is. I couldn't recount it for you one second of it for you, because I truly don't know what happens in the movie. But it's a thrill to watch, and I'm happy to have it. Can I just interject, too, that

while I love Bad Boys 2 more than just as much as you do, Sean, it also is responsible for one of the greatest anecdotes of all time, which you can find on the beloved TV show Dinner for Five. And David Milch makes an appearance with, I believe, Timothy Oliphant, Michael Rapaport, and Jon Favreau, obviously. And Milch talks about his crippling horse-bedding addiction

and how he funded this addiction by taking Don Simpson and Jerry Bruckheimer's money to write a script for Bad Boys 2. his crippling horse bedding addiction and how he funded this addiction by taking Don Simpson and Jerry Bruckheimer's money to write a script for bad boys too. And has like one of the funniest interactions with Don Simpson that I've ever heard in my life. And you, if you can go find it,

it is one of the most amazing Hollywood stories you'll ever hear. RIP dinner for five, please bring it back. Great. Mallory, you're up and you have two picks. I have to say I am shocked and astounded to be able to make these two picks.

I never really thought it would be possible given how thin drama in particular is, but also as noted many times by my colleagues, friends, peers, and rivals, foes in this exercise, how thin Blockbuster is as well, I will be selecting with my second round pick, Mystic River in Drama and Elf in Blockbuster. Yeah. Okay.

Wow. What? Elf hurts. I don't care about Mystic River, but I did want Elf. Elf in the third round is crazy. Yeah. What is happening here? One of the trade-offs that you make

when you get the first overall pick is you concede that your second pick is going to be terrible. I can't believe that I was able to select the movie here that I have listed second overall in the drama category, in my category-specific rankings. I'm honestly shocked and i

think most disappointed in sean because i thought for sure that he would take it no this is that's that's clint eastwood's 23rd best movie and this is this is a year ripe with incredible international dramatic features so i'm not worried at all you open the podcast with a quote from this movie right tapping all part of my plan now all part of my plan, Mal. All part of my plan. Now, did this precede the murder, dirter, Delco accent parody YouTube craze? It did. Would it have been nice to get the New England version of that

in this moment in time? It would have. Sean, you already mentioned Eastwood and your attempt to diminish the achievement here is noted and it's disappointing. This is, of course, an adapted tale. It was nominated for six Oscars, including Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor. It won Actor and Supporting Actor, right? Incredible performances from Sean Penn and Tim Robbins, an amazing cast overall. This is a harrowing tale of guilt and innocence, trauma and shame, loss,

and the places that are grief and our rage and our desperate thirst for misguided vengeance. Mallory, you don't have to do marketing for them. They already released the movie. That's the point of the exercise, Amanda. See, you guys, you're wrong. We do have to do marketing for it. Play the crowd right oh my god people are listening they're gonna go vote the crowd is straight up like what are you picking next that is all anyone is saying on the topic of mystic river i because we

have new uh perspectives here on the podcast mal and joe where are you on kevin bacon just as a um aesthetic presence in movies interesting question uh footloose top tier like angry dancing footloose kevin bacon uh is number two number one is obviously tremors tremors bacon like okay but you're open to it because i have repeatedly talked about how captivating kevin is and Bobby and Sean are like, what are you talking about? And I just needed some other perspectives. I'd love to see Kevin Bacon. It's nothing against the guy. That's such a mischaracterization of my response to your Kevin Bacon

feelings. It was even in the comments of a document. You guys were like, what are you talking about? It was a little bit like Kevin Bacon is not Cary Grant. Everybody settle down. I think that was really more the context. I was just surprised. I was just surprised. That's all. Well, Bobby was surprised about that and I'm surprised that Amanda's attempting

to hijack my Mystic River case by talking about Kevin Bacon and the arguments that Sean and Bobby have about Kevin Bacon. We could be bonding here over Kevin Bacon. No one cares. It's noted and I take it as a show of support for the pic for this deeply tragic.

I support. She's making herself a villain on the podcast. We will swing into cheer. This is not an obscure indie. Are you like when you're describing the movie. Holiday Joy. The best way to spend Christmas is by drafting Elf for all to hear. The best way to spend Christmas cheer is by drafting Elf for all to hear. The best way to spend

Christmas cheer is by drafting Elf for all to hear. Will Ferrell is a buddy. Memorable. Memorable character in all of our lives and in our shared movie history.

This is a comedy. Mal, I picked Kill Bill and I was like, this was pretty violent. And then I kept it. You're not an Elf! This is a journey. A journey in search of belonging.

Did you prepare a fireside chat for every film? Have you ever seen her notes? We've found that belonging together. You won't even break script. This is amazing. And we tap into it one gif and meme at a time, but we found it together in 2003. Thank you for allowing me to select Elf and Mystic River.

I was going to try to take Elf and Blockbuster. So that's a good pick, Mallory. I think you're an insane person. But that was a good pick. I'm feeling great. Everyone's doing very well. I'm proud of everyone. I've got a couple of movies that I really like

that I want to take. I don't know if it's too soon, but I might as well just take the movies that I really care about since CR might be walking away with this one anyway, based on the Twitter reaction. Oscar nominee is a very thin pool this year. So I'm going straight to one of the best movies of this year. That's a city of God.

That's Fernando Morelos is Brazilian epic. One of the best crime and gangster movies of the 21st century. Great pick. Genuinely thrilling film. Morales is a genius filmmaker. Also directed Constance Gardner, which I believe

was drafted Once Upon a Time on this podcast. Fucking love that movie. And City of God is I feel like not in the culture as much. Like it really got picked up

I think by hip hop culture a lot in the mid 2000s and really had a big life. And Morales has not made as many movies. His last movie was The Two Popes. Remember The Two Popes, Amanda? And City of God is generally just a brilliant movie. And this is a thin crop of Oscar movies.

So I'm glad to have it. One of my favorite ridiculous pieces of swag that I've ever received is Netflix sent out slippers for the two popes. Oh, that is good. Plush red velvet slippers. Okay. Allow me to join the shock and astonishment crowd of I can't believe my pick is still here. In action horror, I'm going with a favorite of mine, which is 28 Days Later. I'm dying here. Great, great. See is 28 Days Later. I'm dying here.

Great, great. See, I'm getting his legs cut out. Yeah. Great, great zombie flick in a prime time for Danny Boyle, finding a new muse in Cillian Murphy. A great moment for Cillian Murphy. Naomi Harris sort of zooming in there

before she would sort of break even bigger. A wonderful, creepy Christopher Eccleston performance. Just great stuff. And exactly what you want to see in a zombie movie, which is like the real monsters of the humans. So yeah, 20 Days Later.

That's my action horror. Are there enough boats and waves in that one? I don't know. i did i monologue long enough for you mallory or was that i love it we have torn apart the house of art it's all working out waiting to get to the part about the the briny cresting wave alas what about the briny tears that we all shed when we're in gle. Oh, wow. That is the most traumatic part of that film. The blood teardrop. Oh, my goodness.

That is fantastic stuff. Alright, Amanda, I believe you're up. Yeah. I think I just gotta start painting my own picture here. I'll be really honest. Not that I haven't been. But you got two Amanda Classics already. You're good. I got two Amanda Classics. I feel fine. I did want Elf. I did want Bad i feel fine i i did want elf i did want

bad boys too uh i also i also did want kill bill one um so now i'm just kind of padding out some categories here okay okay i this is so dumb but this year is so dumb in action horror i will be taking the italian job i don't know what to say I don't know what to say number one I haven't seen there aren't that many action horror movies left on the board that I've actually seen it is a heist movie I did actually re-watch some of this last night mostly to be able to text our friend Juliette Lipman to be like I'm watching the Italian job in your honor um it's not that good but as far as heist movies go, it's pretty fun and I like heist movies.

I was reflecting on like if they actually made Red Notice like good, then this is like a good Red Notice, which I don't know. It would be nice if we could have nice versions

of dumb things. It's a nice version of a dumb thing and at least the scenery is beautiful. This was on my long list for Blockbuster. I think it's a really good is beautiful this was on my long list for blockbuster i think it's a really good pick it's on my list yeah yeah it's a it's a remake but it's a solid

remake exactly can i tell you like a super quick anecdote which is that um please when convincing my friends to go see this movie i was trying to tell them like all the people were in it and that they would be excited and i was like and minnie cooper's like it's gonna be exciting i'm getting we're halfway we're halfway through the movie and my friend leans over to me and she's like which one is Mini Cooper and I was like did she think it was like Winnie Cooper

from The Wonder Years that is really funny and I was like it's the car bro Mini Cooper car also just a huge amount of the Sunset Tower in this movie

which I had forgotten so I really appreciate that that's also where I headquarter all my heist planning so I think this is the greatest car advertisement.

I mean, outside of the past Gary Vaynerchuk. But everyone I know all of a sudden wanted a Mini Cooper. Sierra, you actually were the purveyor of a Mini Cooper for a time, as I recall. No, Phoebe still has one. She's just had it the entire time she's had a car. She's had a series of least Mini Coopers. Inspired by Statham's work in this film? Yeah, definitely.

Did she give the most recent one back? No, I think she's buying it. Oh, wow. Good for her. Yeah, because she really likes the color. She wouldn't let them wear it down.

They discontinued Forest Green, so. Right. Has she ever had one with a Union Jack on the front? No, she hasn't. The brand is strong.

You think that's better cinematic car advertising than for the Pussy Wagon and Kill Bill? That's not number one? The P-Wagon is pretty iconic. Top of the list. What about the Alfa Romeo in Six Underground, Chris?

The Alfa Romeo in Six Underground, man. Come on. The lime green one? That's true. That was a sick whip. I like that. We only think about the Alfa Romeos and F1 Drive to survive now.

That's it. Which category did you select that film in? I'm taking that in action horror. Okay. Sierra, you've got two picks. Uh-huh. Boy, a lot of my strack kind of got blown up. So I'm just going to take...

I got to get a blockbuster here. I was really hoping to get Bad Boys. I was okay with taking Elf. I'm going to take Matrix Reloaded. i think this is the right pick i it's it's still pretty good you know what i mean like and i i as a guy who just like really loves that architect scene i'm happy to have him in my bullpen you know what i mean uh why didn't he get to come back i guess he did actually like because like that was basically NPH, right? No, not really. But he's kind of a stand-in for that role. You look so mad.

You're just like, absolutely not. Not really. I think that this is legit one of the best action movies of the 21st century, but it's not really a great Matrix movie. It's like an okay Matrix movie. It's definitely a great movie about giving somebody a slice of cake that makes them orgasm though. That's true. So there's that. This is where

you were introduced to your favorite movie character, the Merovingian, right, Chris? This is, that's your boy, Sean. That's your guy. That is your guy. He's in Last Duel, right? When the Merovingian- Oh no, he's in Benedetta. That's right. He's in Benedetta, Lambert Wilson. When Merovingian popped up in Matrix, Chris just texted me all night for like 12 consecutive hours and he was like my guy is back thank god the true savior

of the arts Mero where's Balooch where's Monica Balooch Balooch is top five Balooch is for me yeah she's for me she's elite

I mean okay so I took that in Blockbuster right yes and just because I can't trust anybody here I'm just gonna grab

Oldboy in wildcard okay you'll have my husband's vote after that I was you know I wasn't counting on that I was worried that going back you getting two more passes at the apple

I wouldn't have gotten that I'll deal with the rest of my problems which are legion when we get back to me because I oh my god a little shorthanded on the oscar side here your boy might be going to cold mountain we'll see if you dig into the deeper cat there's stuff there's stuff for you all right amanda you are up nobody wants this but i'm taking anyway in blockbuster how to lose a guy in 10 days wow i thought about it so much i thought about it when romantic comedies actually made more than 100 million dollars at the box office this is this is a very classic early 2000s invent listicles possibly sure and a lot of bad journalism and it but like i think when we think

of like the kate hudson matthew i mean it's kate hudson it's matthew mcconaughey that yellow dress on the poster for me it certainly like sums up an era when the rom-coms weren't as good as they were in the 90s but before things truly went off a cliff, I would say, around 2005, 2006. This movie is pretty deranged when you watch it now. It ages really intensely, and this premise is absurd, but they commit. And I suppose they have chemistry. They have chemistry, these two. It's better than, you know.

They reunited. Exactly. Exactly. they have chemistry these two it's like it's better than you know reunited exactly exactly um and like start cicada dynasty of bad rom-coms for both of them but i uh i accept i like this movie i've seen it a million times i haven't memorized the next scene is pretty funny still so that's an iconic iconic film dress which is an interest of mine. Exactly. I agree. Okay. Joanna, you're up. All right. I actually don't.

Okay. I also don't know how to trust anyone on this draft. I don't know what your interests are and my interests. So, again, I'll just play my heart and say one of my favorite films of all time and in the Oscar category, Jim Sheridan's in America. Damn it, Joan! You got me! This, I probably

have seen this movie more, well, after Master and Commander. Then it comes this movie in terms of rewatch from this year. Samantha Morton letting us all know that she can rock no hair at all. We already knew that from Minority Report. But she's like, yeah, I could do one inch as well. Patty Constantine.

Just like turning heroic drama out of the smallest things. Like bringing an air conditioner home to your family. Yeah. An incredible Jimon Honsu performance. And yeah, just a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful movie. I like openly weep

every time that I watch it. And I think it should be more beloved than it is. Two things about this movie. Number one, amazing

pick by you. So three things. Amazing pick by you. Number two, I believe Jim Sheridan followed this film up with Get Rich or Die Trying, the 50 Cent

movie, which is an amazing career move. Number three, in 2003, I used to really enjoy reenacting the scene in in america where the kid goes up to patty constantine and he's like you don't play with us and just patty going with constantine goes i do play with you and the kid goes not like you used to this movie is why i was convinced until two years ago that Paddy Constantine

was an Irish actor first of all his name is Paddy but second of all like this is my introduction to him and then someone had to email me

and let me know that he's English but yeah just to just the Irish love that too yeah yeah made me really popular

terrific pick Jim Sheridan is the the Spielberg of many an irish-american household um okay i have a pick shall we do a brief recap of where we're at maybe after mal makes her next pick we can recap and see where we stand on everything um it looks like she's like a pause on the turn you mean yeah a pause on the turn sound good yeah she's getting another filibuster ready you know like a pause specific film that was basically set silently since she gave her last gel yeah uh

okay i'm gonna go with comedy complicated comedy year i had two directions i could go i'm gonna go with school of rock um this is richard link later's you Are you relieved, Mallory? I'm not going to share how I'm feeling. Oh, my God. That's great. That's great content. Mal, this is a made-up podcast idea, okay? There's no ramifications or consequences to anything that I've done.

Well, you're not playing Teddy KGB in Texas Hold'em. You can let us know how you feel. I really love that Sean just keeps trying to tell Mal to chill out, and then it's trying to get me to be meaner. So I guess the sweet spot is somewhere in the middle. Yes, I am the architect. School of Rock, Richard Linklater, script by Mike White, starring Jack Black,

is a guy who goes into a school. He's a failing musician and has to teach some kids how to love and enjoy it, how they spend their time playing music. Uplifting movie, also absolutely hilarious. Your dad energy is insane right now. Yeah, get used to it because it's here for good. Okay.

You're going to have one in your house. Get ready to deal with that. It's fine. I thought School of Rock was a nice movie. It is. It's a great movie.

So yeah, that's, and also comedy, not that it was like a dark time for comedy. It just seems like a little bit of an off year once you get past old school.

So that might be the reason why only one comedy has been taken up to this point. So School of Rock. You could call it Alpha Comedy, right? Yeah, that's true. So that might be the reason why only one comedy has been taken up to this point. So School of Rock. You could call Alpha comedy, right? Yeah, that's true.

I guess based on the categories. Okay. Technically, Amanda has three comedies, none of which are in the comedy category. Yeah. So just wait. And I'm not stressed, honestly. School of Rock was not on my list,

but it was a nice movie. I like it when the children, you know, play their instruments. Music is important. You're going to be a wonderful mother, let me tell you. Wow. And then the draft got really boy uh mal you're up you got two picks no i'm gonna make one pick and then you're gonna recap the draft as we just agreed to oh my god right isn't that where we are is that not where we landed are you connected to some sort of learning machine? What is going on? Who taught you to be like this?

I thought I was bad. Listen, many times during today's podcast, you all have mentioned how important it is not only to draft strategically, take something that rates highly in a category, which I will be doing here, but also to follow your heart and to look into each other's eyes

and say on the big picture, you tell the truth. And I will be selecting one of my favorite films of all time in comedy. Love Actually. Okay. Movie that I watched every single year at Christmas. Right. I'm Jewish. So often weeks before Christmas, I'm lighting the menorah, you know, just like rocking through the eight crazy nights, enjoying some potato latkes. And then when Christmas comes around, what is my holiday tradition?

What is it? Right. It's this. It's watching Love Actually. It's seeing Colin Firth, spending that beautiful time with him. It's remembering all the different ways that we can find each other. Friendship, Romance. Found family. One of the beautiful themes

that we return to so often in stories. Right? And then some humor. I don't return to that theme. Some levity, you know? A backpack chock-a-block full of condoms. This movie has it all. And I'm delighted to be able to pick it in comedy. Thank you. Sean, if you'd like to recap the draft,

please feel free. Mallory, I'm painting my own picture. I have a lot of weird choices on my draft, but Love Actually was never one of them. Love Actually is terrible. Do you know people in Love Actually are like, what the fuck is wrong with Americans? Why do they like Love Actually so much?

Guess who's going to be voting on the Twitter poll for this podcast? All of those Americans who watch and love this movie. You really need to do more research on how these Twitter polls work. A lot of Eastern Europeans vote for Love Actually. We're not even on the Twitter poll anymore.

The Eastern European robots hired by Chris Ryan do not care for Love Actually. So far in the draft, we've got three films in the drama category. Amanda has Lost in Translation. Joanna has Master and Commander. Mal has Mystic River. In the comedy category, three films off the board. CR has Old School. I have School of Rock. Mallory

has Love Actually. An Oscar nominee, only one person sitting without an Oscar nominee thus far. I've got City of God. Amanda's got Something's Gotta Give. Joanna's got In America. And Mallory has the first overall pick, The Lord of the Rings, Return of the King. CR standing alone there without an Oscar nominee. In Action Horror, Chris has Kill Bill Volume 1. I have Bad Boys 2. Amanda has The Italian Job. Joanna has 28 Days Later. Mal has nothing yet. Blockbuster, we've got all the blockbusters off the board, and thank God we do, because after this, it's pretty grim. CR has Matrix Reloaded. I have Finding Nemo. amanda has how to lose a guy in 10 days joanna has pirates of the caribbean the curse of the black pearl that's the first film in the series mal has elf and then in wild card just one wild card off the board cr's got old boy let's get

back to it now where are you picking this is the tough stretch of the draft these final two rounds oh it wasn't when you picked love actually in comedy even though half of the love stories end in total despair don't we know that that's true to life sure but it's not divorce how many children of divorce are on this podcast you didn't put it in drama comedy is Drama is comedy. Love is all of it. You know? It's interchangeable. You know what? This, in a way,

is a chess game, right? We're moving our pieces. We're sitting down in a room, digital in this case, with each other and moving our pieces across the board

and one day, one of us, through victory, will break through and shout, a war has begun and I will be selecting for action. X2. X-Men United.

Yeah. Really fun movie that people love that I'm actually surprised is still here, especially considering, as mentioned, how thin Blockbuster is. I really thought this would go earlier. Obviously, as you know, has been the case with other films selected today, there are elements of the creative team here that have not aged well.

No part of this is an endorsement for Bryan Singer. That goes without saying, but just to say it. Incredible cast for the movie. This is a really awesome, not only X-Men movie, but a really awesome superhero movie that was well-received critically, commercially successful. I think really central in terms of not only how we think about the way that superhero franchises are adapted, take root, and then grow and evolve. But beyond the X-Men franchise in particular, to how to deftly navigate an ensemble story right there are a lot of characters a lot of power sets a lot of dynamics at play in this movie and i think it really helps to like pave and cement the way for that balancing act which is now so central to what pop culture is inside of avengers movies and and beyond right and it's thematically resonant, you know, allegorically potent,

as is often the case with X-Men tales. I enjoy returning to it. I loved it at the time. And I would just like to say once again that I'm really surprised it's here. So X2, that's my pick in action. Thank you. Working super hard to convince us

that Love Actually and X2 are good. While you were talking, I googled X2 just to find out what it was about because obviously I've never seen this movie. Can I just read the first sentence of the plot summary? At the White House, brainwashed teleporting mutant nightcrawler

attacks the President of the United States. Oh, I forgot about that. Does he turn into water or something? That scene is good, actually. I'm having an incredible moment a movie history that's so great is great in that movie but like is incredible all right and over reliance on ice man is what i would say about that movie uh true story i i once looked at a home in los angeles i visited the home that was for sale and um the owner of the home was sean ashmore the uh

the erstwhile ice man was he there yeah he was not there but uh he was in photographs that were all over the other ashmore was the other ashmore there i'm no no one was no ashmores were there they left all the photos are you sure it was his home or was that just what the stager chose that'd be incredible i didn't get a chance to see who the owner was on paper so it's possible that they just called photos from x2 and put them all around the house. I don't think it was Rogue in the photos, though. I think it was a woman in the world. Okay, I've got two more picks left.

I'm making one. My open categories are drama and wild card. Well, let me ask you guys this. Would you consider Match Thick Men a drama? Sure. I think you could. Yeah, it was on you guys this. Would you consider Match Thick Men a drama? Sure. I think you could call it that. It was on my drama list.

Okay. If you'll accept it, because I think some people would call it a comedy, but it's obviously playing with some pretty heavy themes. Dark comedy also. Yeah. Okay. So then I'll go Match Thick Men,

which is one of Ridley Scott's great underappreciated movies. We actually talked about it on the Ridley Scott episode from a few months ago. One of the best Nicolas Cage performances as a man struggling with obsessive compulsive disorder and Tourette's and a number of other syndromes uh and he is um effectively a crook a con man operating alongside sam rockwell also a con man and they encounter a young woman the aforementioned allison loman who is brilliant in this movie. And they forge a bond and she informs him that she is his daughter and hijinks ensue. Absolutely incredible movie. Very low key kind of a movie. For Ridley Scott, there are no bloody

battles. There are no swords. There are no aliens or spaceships, but it is taught and fun and strange. And it features a lot of acting from Nicolas Cage is what I will say. Perhaps too much acting. He's doing all the acting in that pharmacy scene. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um,

very intense, but a very good movie. So stoked to have this. That rewatching that movie for this draft prompted me to ask a friend, like how many con movies hold up once you know what the con is. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. That's a question I have with this movie. Is it as revisitable? Right. There are some that do work like Dirty

Rotten Scoundrels or Ocean's Eleven and then there are some where you're just sort of like well once you've seen the cards. Yeah there's like a couple of like those David Mamet con movies that are like really good for the language but then like once you find out like the end Spanish Prisoner. Yeah. Yeah.

Joanna you're up. Yeah. Okay. In a list that is already extremely Caucasian. I'm going to put forth probably the whitest thing I maybe ever said. I love how you pronounce that. On a podcast.

And it is to for comedy to pick Christopher Guest's A Mighty Wind. Is this the best Christopher Guest comedy? No. No. Is it still great? It's not. Yes. And if you grew up in a very waspy household, as I did,

your parents might have owned the soundtrack to Mighty Win, which might mean that you know all the words to every song on the soundtrack to Mighty Win, which I do. Didn't they perform live at the Oscars this year? I feel like they did. This year? During this year. During the train station Oscars?

No, no, no. The COVID Oscars? No, no, no, no. In the 2014, they performed the song. I wouldn't put it past Soderbergh to be like, let's get a mighty win back together. No one will see it coming. Oh, gosh. What is Bob Balaban doing? So, yeah, it's

all the Christopher Guest favorites are here, and it's got, you know, if you're a Schitt's Creek fan, it's got a great little Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara duet that was nominated for the Oscar. And yeah, I really love this movie. So I'm happy to put it in my comedy category. Interesting.

Not even Christopher Guest's best musical parody. And, you know, couldn't really hold up next to the dog shit that comes out repeatedly in his ultimate classic, Best in Show. But good pick. Okay. Amanda, you are up. Jesus Christ. I know.

I think she's feeling a little sensitive about her last couple of picks. And she's taking it out everywhere. You said you wanted to hear from me more. You gotta just not let her get in your face. You report yourself, you know? You said you wanted to hear from me more. You gotta just not let her get in your face. You repoint yourself, you know? You said you wanted to hear from me more. I guess so. Here it is.

I didn't actually say that at all, but. Mal, you make me seem like Angela Merkel. Seriously, I seem like a gentle statesperson compared to you. This is remarkable. You're coming on every movie draft now. Amanda, you're up. I just, well, let me just say really quickly.

Yeah. In defense of Mighty Wind, which I did not. You didn't, only one person was accusing you of anything with a Mighty Wind. I really like a Mighty Wind. I just happen to adore Best in Show. I love Christmas. Oh, because there's so many dogs. I just want to say, What Happened is one of the

most quotable movie lines of all time. What Happened? Not enough impressions on today's pod. I did the whole's anger from CR. I did the whole family from in America. I know. We need more.

Not like you used to. Not like before. Okay, Amanda, you're the impression specialist. Why don't you draft a movie that you can impersonate? I will not be doing any impressions in comedy. I will take a movie that nobody else wanted ever and that i wanted from the beginning which is of course under the tuscan sun thank you very much i had a different pick for you i thought you were gonna go down with love here yeah i also thought that no i'm going with diane lane

buying a home in tuscany because her life is falling apart yeah it's a romantic comedy she finds love and laughs in the italian countryside variations of this movie where it's not funny right yeah i mean things go wrong there are hurdles like you know the plumbing isn't great in the house and also she's on the beach with richard gear is this a prequel to unfaithful no well i love unfaithful also but they are they're separate. This is basically the money pit. Exactly. Needs something else. Yeah.

And she makes a lot of friends with the people in the town and insinuates herself into some local family dramas. She has a torrid affair on the coast, you know, and then she learns a lot about home renovations and, you know, how to build a life with Christopher from Gilmore Girls. So spoiler alert, sorry. Great movie. This was also in really early pandemic. Remember when we all like watched movies with friends, quote unquote, just it's a beautiful house. I'm really pro the Italian countryside. That's what I would have to say. So I watched some really harrowing movies. Like we watched some really harrowing movies for this draft.

Some real toughies came out this year. Yeah. And there's a palate cleanser I watched under the Tuscan sun. And I definitely had that moment at the end where I was like, Christopher! Yeah, I just completely forgot. Christopher from The Gilmore Girls. Right at the end where I was like Christopher I just completely forgot Christopher from the Gilmore Girls right at the end

if you could take a movie that you're able to say nobody else would have even considered picking and then the entire description could just as easily fit an HGTV show you've got to do it good work I mean here's the other thing this is like part of the run of like people in America being like hey

is Diane Lane pretty fuckable and what I recall I mean the answer obviously yes but what I recall think this is like part of the run of like people in america being like hey is diane lane pretty fuckable and what i what i recall i mean the answer obviously yes but what i recall from 2003 is i was like oh this story of this like mature woman she was 38 yeah it was just like this old hag and gets one lance bite at the one last bite at the apple yeah this 38 year old decrepit skeleton so anyway um yeah under the tuscan sun sierra when are you gonna make your under the bite at the apple. Yeah, this 38-year-old decrepit skeleton. So anyway, yeah, Under the Tuscan Sun. Sierra, when are you going to make your Under the Tuscan Sun? You move to Tuscany, you get a fixer-upper.

I've been filming it all throughout the pandemic like Sean Baker on an iPhone. Just like... Under the Silver Lake Sun. Chris, you've got two picks. Your final two picks. Make them count, bud. Man, I am in a fucking they got me boxed in dog

what am I gonna do well you got to ride high on your first two so now you're going out soft yeah I'm here so now I'm gonna I'm gonna continue to ride though and I'm riding out on Seabiscuit

yeah wow wow have you actually seen Seabiscuit so here's the thing seriously have you seen Seabiscuit I like here's the thing. Seriously, have you seen Seabiscuit? I like to think of myself as a thoroughbred podcaster and game recognizes game.

This is the second time that horse betting has come up from you and Chris on this podcast. You don't watch animated stories or stories with animals. Chris, have you seen Seabiscuit? Yeah, totally. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah.

He's convincing. Adapted from the book by Lauren Hillebrand. And we all remember that one. You got the wiki pulled up, bud? Top 25 Jeff Bridges performance. Toby's in this. And the star

of the show is Seabiscuit. It's among Seabiscuit's best performances. Seabiscuit goes in Oscars. Just not going to pick any of these other movies. And then drama, you know, like I could be like a kind of like a

troll and pick something that's just not very like not a drama, but put it in here. But I'm going to stick to it and I'm going to go Shattered Glass. Yes. Damn it. I'm mad. I'm mad because it's on my list, but put it in here, but I'm going to stick to it and I'm going to go Shattered Glass. Yes. God damn it. I mean, I'm mad. I'm mad. I'm mad because it's on my list, but like I love to see other Shattered Glass.

I'm actually pissed right now. This is the first time I've been mad. I'll take this. I'm something of a fabulist, you know? Oh my God. Chris. Yeah.

From the man who lied about seeing Seabiscuit comes the pick of Shattered Glass. I about seeing Seabiscuit. I've seen Seabiscuit. You know what I mean? You know, like I've been to Prague, been to Prague. Biblically,

you've seen him after seeing Jackass. I basically, um, yeah. Shattered glass. I just want to say amazing. Sarsgaard in this movie, just like a really really really great

before he went like a little turned it up three degrees too weird in almost every movie subsequent to this but he is like I was like

oh yeah Sarsgaard's gonna be like a really big leading man and he's great but you know I think he's like sort of settled into the character actor thing

Hayden Christensen obviously like this is a controversial performance, I think. I think there was some people who were like, I don't get this at all. I thought he actually had the tone pretty well nailed down. But I thought Billy Ray wrote and directed

this. Billy Ray is obviously one of the most prolific and consistent screenwriters of the last 20 years. Really cool movie. This movie came out in my final year of journalism school, so you can imagine all of the excitement as years. So really, really cool movie. This movie came out in my final year of journalism school. So you can imagine all of the excitement

as I was studying magazine journalism and the story of Stephen Glass was finally put on screen. Can I say really quickly, my very first journalism school professor was Adam Penenberg,

the guy that exposes Stephen Glass. That's Sarsgaard, isn't it? Isn't that Sarsgaard in this movie? That's Steve Zahn. Steve Zahn. Steve Zahn.

And we spent three classes that I was paying thousands of dollars for watching this film. That was like the whole class. He just played the film. He's like, I did this. College rules, man. Yeah. That's incredible.

I had a teacher in school once who during, I think we were studying the Revolutionary War or something and he just made us watch Spartacus for like three days and it was just like what is happening?

Okay. Yeah. And in this that movie proves that it wasn't Hayden's fault. Like the prequels weren't his fault. That's right.

I think he's good in Shatterglass. He's very good. This is one year after Attack of the Clones, right? So it would have been it would have been easy to just never make another movie again. Life as a house, on the other hand. Let me tell you something.

I am proud to say that I own Life as a House on VHS and DVD. Wow. What's the vibe on jumpers right now? People love to defend jumpers. Yeah, I thought so. Yeah, there's a big jumper. Yeah. All right.

So this is my turn for to do the wild card. Oh, sorry, Amanda. No, it's fine. It's okay. Amanda's last pick. And it's wild card as well is what I have left.

And so I'm going to be honest here. So I've got two options. And one option is like the respectable good option. And then one option is like the truth. The truth. And let me just go ahead and read to you guys just a recap here. Sean has left.

That's fine. I was looking for something on the shelf. I'm back. Okay. So right now I have lost in translation under the Tuscan sun. Something's got to give the Italian job and how to lose a guy in 10 days. A pretty remarkable expression of self and like core beliefs, you know,

when it comes right down to it, that's, which is like not always the goal of the movie draft, but this is how that shook out. And so I think I'm just really going to double down on a movie that, while terrible, is also hugely cinematically important. Daddy Daycare? And I would argue, you know, world historically important. Baba Hotep.

Baba Hotep certainly has been a reference point to me over the years. And even in recent years and so in wild card i will be taking gg what i almost played that in comedy why not thank you jennifer lopez forever it was important ben affleck is in eight terrible movies this year this man's life and set us all on the courses that we are today I wouldn't be here without you thank you is this viral marketing for just like us you can say it right no it's not though please listen to the podcast just like us you can find it on the ringer dish network a ringer dish feed on the ringer podcast network listen what I mean, I could take the Fog of War. Fog of War, a very important movie. But, you know, look at my list. I got to be true

to myself. Gigli, okay? We wouldn't be where we are without it. That's a great case. Thank you. I think it's very culturally important. And I really did consider playing it. Of course it is. I really did. You just say Gigli's you just say Julian, it means something, you know? So first time today, I haven't had to cross off a movie on my spreadsheet. I'll just say that. That's great.

Oh, good for you. All right. Um, okay. Now it's my turn. Yeah. All right.

Joanna, your last pick wild card. Uh, I've gotten everything I wanted except for the blockbuster. And so this is the last thing that I wanted on my list. And so I'm just going to go with it and say it is the station agent, Tom McCarthy. Yes.

That's a good one. Fantastic film introduction to Peter Dinklage. This is my introduction to Patricia Clarkson, though she has got two great films this year and Bobby Cannavale and just like a beautiful little trio. Tom McCarthy obviously went on to win Oscars and all this other stuff, but this is just like this beautiful, promising beginning, a very small film, but one that I watch. And actually, my first podcast that I ever did about television was called The Station Agents, named after this movie. So yeah, I love this movie.

Tom McCarthy banged out Stillwater last year, man. I'm still in, I'm still on that corner. That movie happened. That's the only person on that corner, but Stillwater, the station agent was considered a very strange curio in the world of

independent cinema, but beloved and Stillwater is considered a very strange movie that is beloved by no one, but CR good pick station agent is great and then sets up 10 years of tyrian for you guys so that was that was also great uh okay i guess i'm up last pick you should pick one here pick one for me that shows me that we're still we're still on the same page i got you bad boys too we're good bro we're good all right we're never you and i are not going to be divided no matter what happens

on one of these pods. In Nemo, don't the fishes get like separated, right? It's a father and a son. So yes. It's very sad. Nemo is the one who has to be found.

He has to be sought after. Right. Anyway, I'm choosing, I'll tell you what I'm choosing between. Amanda's not a good story. The Fog of War,

which Amanda mentioned, which is directed by Errol Morris, my favorite documentarian, one of his great works. Profile of Robert McNamara, former Secretary of Defense in this country. And Memories of Murder, which is Bong Joon-ho's first great film. And the film that is

the template, I think, for a lot of true crime movies and a huge inspiration to David Fincher. And if you look at some of Fincher's films since then, you can see that they are speaking back and forth to each other. So I'm a little bit torn because I really love both of these movies and they're both perfect for wildcard. I think I'm just going to go Fog of War because I've watched it more times and I love it. Memories of Murder might be the movie I end up watching more times in my life though. It just got reissued by Criterion. It was a hard movie to see for a long time, honestly.

You could see it at art houses in college in 2003 when it was released. And then for a spell there, it was tough to catch. So obviously director Bong is much more in our culture now post parasite, but the fog of war is just the genius memory movie genius, like a reclamation of what we want to believe happened versus what actually happened during Vietnam and during the Kennedy administration, during Nixon's administration, all throughout American history, really. So brilliant movie. That's where I'm going. Sierra, you like Fog of War?

Is that good enough for you? Are we teamed up? I think it's also really good to have at least one movie on here that feels like it's in conversation with 9-11 because that was still just looming over everything. And that's, you know. I felt like I did that with Seabiscuit,

but you're pointing at me. You're right, you're right, you're right. I forgot, I forgot. Mallory, we return to you. Boy, last pick, huh? Last pick. We're here already. My goodness.

Time flies. Ooh, interesting selection of options here. I think I know what I'm going to do. This is my wild card pick, of course. I have made a selection in every other category. I am going to make a selection here that I think taps into our shared word cloud, our Venn diagram of respective passions. A little bit of Coen Brothers here, a little bit of divorce genre there. Are you kidding me, Molly?

Holy fucking shit. Are you really doing this? Are you really doing this? Are you joking? It's actually a bit. Have you hired Billy Bob Thornton to play the role of you? I was waiting to see who would react first.

Christ. Oh, God. After the Love Actually defense, I was like, everything's would react first. Christ. Oh, God. After the Love Actually defense, I was like, everything is on the board for Mal here. I do love divorce movies, as you know, but I will not be selected. I am torn between two movies, though, just as Sean was.

Fog of War was in my consideration set here in the end, though. You love a sec def movie. Imagine a movie where the Secretary of Defense gets divorced. Do you think Mal would just dissolve? joe don't give away free ideas let's let's honestly that's like sort of the plot of the hillary rodham clinton louise penny book just if anybody hasn't read that i almost i almost bought that this weekend honestly it's a pretty fun read okay all right i mean it's stupid consider ringer films when you guys are throwing these ideas around, okay? Okay. You know what?

What about a rom-com with Seabiscuit? You know? I feel like you can get like arrested for suggesting an idea like that. That's also kind of like the plot,

one of the plot lines from, you know, Jimmy's arc in season four of Yellowstone. Isn't this what got Milch in trouble, right? Yes.

Oh, boy. All right. I'm going to go with the heart again. I'm going to go with passion. I'm going to go with fun. I'm going to go with something that is beloved

in this household. It's the only thing that came up repeatedly from the peanut gallery here at our home while I was prepping. And I think it's the right selection here. A wild card in the end comes from a deep category action. I'm selecting a movie that I thought for sure Chris Ryan would take today. I am selecting SWAT.

I was thinking about taking it for drama. Wow. Yeah. I thought you might have you know yeah made the case like Shay tried to once

that it should have been in the mix for Oscar nominees this is Josh Charles porn for you this is Colin Farrell Colin exactly Colin Farrell's

30th best performance yeah wow you know looks great in all of them right so that's something

Colin Farrell was incredibly busy this year yeah this was a big year is this phone booth is this like something Colin Farrell was incredibly busy this year yeah this was a big year is this phone booth is this like peak peak Farrell

with phone booth and SWAT I believe this was the year of his sex tape as well which you see I checked out a few times I think I genuinely think

when I first met Chris in 04 he asked me between six and nine times what I think of SWAT you know I think he was like are you into that genuinely surprised you didn't take it today I think of SWAT. I think he was like, are you into that?

I said yes. I think it's a great pick, Mallory. Honestly, this movie is underrated. Yeah, it's really good. It's really fun. I think it's rated. It is under known. It is under considered.

Yes, hopefully this will lead more people to go discover this. What a classic it is. What a fun film to discover anew and discover for the first time if you haven't. Enjoy it. Enjoy it, folks. This would be a nice double feature for when CR sets Amanda's child down to watch Heat for the first time, followed up with SWAT.

SWAT as a palate cleanser. I'll join you for that one since I've never seen it. for all three versions of Rewatchables. A little palate cleanser between. I would do a Josh Charles double feature with this

and don't tell mom the babysitter's. Yeah. Also a good one. Oh man. Love that one. Okay. So that concludes

all of our picks. I'm going to briefly recap all of those selections and then we can talk about a couple of movies that we left off the list before we wrap. So 2003 movie draft.

In drama, Shattered Glass goes to CR. Is that correct? Yes. Yes. Matchstick Men goes to me. Lost in Translation goes to Amanda. Master and Commander

the Far Side of the World goes to Joanna. Mystic River to Mallory. In comedy, Chris gets Old School. I got School of Rock. Amanda gets Under the Tuscan Sun. Joanna gets A Mighty Wind. Mallory gets, yes, Love Actually.

Oscar nominee. Chris gets Seabiscuit, a film he has not seen. I've seen it. I've definitely seen it. Amanda gets Something's Gotta Give. He brings the country together. Joanna gets In America. And Mallory gets the Best Picture winner of that year,

The Lord of the Rings, Return of the King. In action horror, Chris gets Kill Bill Volume 1. I get Bad Boys 2. Amanda gets the remake of The Italian Job. Joanna gets 28 Days Later. And Mallory gets X2 X-Men United. Blockbuster.

Tough category this year. Chris gets The Matrix Reloaded. I got Finding Nemo. Amanda got How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days. Joanna gets Pirates of the Caribbean, The Curse of the Black Pearl. And Pearl and Mallory gets elf in wildcard. CR gets old boy. I got the fog of war.

Amanda gets, you heard me, heard me correctly. When I say this is really Joanna gets the station agent and Mallory gets SWAT. Wow. I really do. I love the wildcard wildcard category is by far the best wildcard is

deranged. It's our time to shine. What went undrafted? What are, what's, what are our biggest crimes? One of the most, well,

there was a couple of horror movies from this year that I liked, but the, probably one of the most fun times I had at the theater, at least like the, the grossest was Cabin Fever. This is a Eli Roth's

grotesque debut. On, on, on, Fever. This is Eli Roth's grotesque debut. On popcorn movies that I will defend actually, Underworld. I'm an Underworld fan, personally. Beck and Sail in a Corset works anyway. Pretty interesting splatter

period for horror in general. This is the year of high tension. This is the year of House of a Thousand Corpses. First Wrong Turn is this year, right? Yeah, First Wrong Turn. Final Destination 2. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake. Mal, are you scared

just hearing the names of these movies? I just don't like horror movies. You know what else Colin Farrell-wise came out this year was The Recruit. CR, can you quote any of Al Pacino's lines from The Recruit? I have The Recruit on my list.

I haven't seen it in too long. It's been too long since I've seen it. You could recite that script from memory. No, I really do think he also toned it down relatively for this movie.

Here's the description of the film The Recruit. A brilliant CIA trainee must prove his worth at the farm, the agency's secret training grounds where he learns to watch

his back and trust no one. Who's the female lead in that movie? Is it Shannon Elizabeth? It's Bridget Moynihan. Listen, they're all in the same bucket as far as I'm concerned. I believe this is shortly before she was impregnated and abandoned by Tom Brady. Yike.

What about Tribbles of Belleville? Just Like Us Season 2? Tribbles of Belleville, right? Tribbles of belville right triplets of belville 2003 yeah uh i believe no one picked too fast too furious yeah i don't i don't know when was when was bridget morninghand on sex in the city is it right around here um i think it's a little before because she's like season three and then she which is i think like 2000, 2001. And then honestly, she was the, like one of the only bright spots of the remake. That's right. She has like one episode and is, you know, tethered to reality.

So that's good for her. A couple of other notable movies from that year. Monster, Shirley's Thern. Yeah. Won Best Actress that year. That was a tough, tough set. Not the most fun movie to watch, candidly. Yeah.

Tough set. The Last Samurai. Any takers on the Ultimate White Savior film? Listen, Ken Watanabe is good in that movie. He is good.

He's good. What about Denzel in Out of Time? Pretty good. Solid Carl Franklin movie. Yeah. The Flipside of Nemo is a movie that makes me

never want to have children, which is 13. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dark Times coming for me. Holly Hunter got nominated for that, right? Yeah. She did.

Ben DeLay Beckham this year. That was a sweet one. That was good. Hey, Amanda, what happened? Freaky Friday. You're not in on that? I'm like, I was a little too old for this. You weren't into this movie?

No, I mean, I like it. But this is also when the wheels, they aren't quite coming off for Lindsay Lohan just yet. This is pre-Mean Girls, but I wanted other things for her. What about the immortal Ben Affleck movie, Paycheck? Right. And she sought a paycheck.

Sure. But like I said, a lot of Ben Affleck movies in this. This is also the year of Daredevil. He's in Daredevil, right? Daredevil, Paycheck, and Healy in one calendar year. Tough times.

That's like when CR does the watch, the big picture, the prestige TV pod, and the answer all in one day. And the Seabiscuit narrative pod.

Wow. Any other movies you want to shout out? Tiny, two tiny movies. All the Real Boys is a movie that i really like that movie yeah and then a movie i actually watch every thanksgiving pieces of april i really love pieces of april oh but that's a tough one to watch it's painful to watch that movie but it's kind of beautiful april's going through it trying to get that turkey going in that new york City apartment fantastic Katie Holmes so sympathetic

I can relate to that House of Sand and Fog any takers on that speaking of deeply depressing films is Cold Mountain good did we did I miss that you've never seen

Cold Mountain joke at the beginning I just didn't know I can't remember is Tobey Maguire in that too no Jude Law Jude Law

that's right I think it's pretty good and he rides a racehorse what am I thinking what Tobey Maguire Civil War movie is there in that too? No. Jude Law. Jude Law. That's right. I think it's pretty good. And he rides a racehorse. What am I thinking? What Tobey Maguire Civil War movie is there? Are you thinking of the Ang Lee movie?

Yeah. Ride with the Devil. That's right. That's a good movie. Here's an impression for the podcast which goes like this. Every fiber of my being

longs for you to come back to Coal Mountain. That's Nicole Kidman in Coal Mountain. Wow. Uncanny. CR, you have a new challenger in the Impression Olympics. I can hear the footsteps. Listen, guys, this was great.

Mallory, I'm a little concerned about you, as I always am, after participating in one of these things with you. You guys seem to get madder and madder as the moments went by. I think it's tough for Mallory to go into one of those corners because it's just like there's too long between her pits. Yeah, of course. She's just percolating. Mal, you okay? I mean, you know, I can't

recall the taste of food nor the sound of water nor the touch of grass, but it worked out okay for Sam and Frodo, so hopefully it'll work out well for me. I'm glad you got Lord of the Rings. And I'm happy for you. Yeah.

As ever, you are a poetess. You're all poets here on the big picture. Thank you so much. Thank you, of course, to our producer, Bobby Wagner, for his work on this podcast. As we mentioned before, we're pre-recording. So I'm sure the next episode of this pod is going to be jamming.

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