The Big Picture - The 2006 Movie Draft

Episode Date: August 31, 2023

We are drafting again! Sean, Amanda, and Chris Ryan reunite for a draft of the best movies of 2006. Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Chris Ryan Senior Producer: Bobby Wagner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, it's your boy, Johnny Bananas, and I'm going to be covering a brand new season of the Challenge USA on CBS that, of course, I will be completely dominating on my podcast, Death Taxes and Bananas on the Ringer Reality TV podcast. Head over that feed and follow us on Spotify so you never miss an episode. I'm Sean Fantasy. I'm Amanda Dobbins. And I'm Dave Prokosian. This is the Big Picture Conversation show about 2006 costumes, disguises, illicit men traveling the world. Or are they? That's right.

Chris Ryan, a.k.a. Evgeny Pergozhin, is here. No, I don't want to be associated with that. You don't want to be associated with that. Okay, so we need to say two things. Number one, we're recording this a bit in advance. So we can't speak to what's happening in real time. Right. With Russian warlords or Republican candidates or anything.

Sure, as it's being released. Number two, Chris. Right now. Yeah. Is he dead? I think it's a coin toss. It's a pick-em. I do.

Where do you think he'll appear next if he is not expired? Philly. First Eagles home game. At the link. Yeah. Sitting next to Mike Trout it's been so long since the four of us

were here on a pod a pretty outfit yeah incredible times um Progozhin why is he your

inspiration why is he the person who animates your excitement no I just think it's like an amazing story like every once in a while something comes along in the news that is

uncomplicatedly fascinating. And he is a nauseating human being. It's a little complicated. You just made me watch the plane crash video. I didn't make you do anything. I said, do you want to see his plane crash? And you were like, absolutely. I did pull the chair over. And it's not chill. It takes a long time

for that plane to go down. And flips over end on end. So, like, you know, the last 30 seconds for that guy were about as bad as they get. Every podcast is a time capsule of where we are in our lives. But this one in particular is deranged already. It's been less than four minutes. I think that this is a good proposition for JMO, though, is that you record everything, like, day of in real time. And you sit on it for a week. You're making it seem as though we haven't been like day of in real time and you sit on it

for a week. You're making it seem as though we haven't been doing the exact thing. No, you sit on it for a week. Okay. And then you put it out and just see whether you were right or not. At the exact moment when no one cares about everything we've discussed. That sounds like a way to kneecap JMO so that you can get Just My Science going more aggressively. Just My Ocean?

That was what we were talking about. Yeah, Just My Orcas. Just My Ocean? That was what we were talking about. Just my ocean. Just my orcas? Just my ocean. I mean, that's your property. Did you find him to be news literate

after listening to Garbage Fish? Thanks so much for asking. I already brought up the orcas earlier this week on the podcast and I had some questions about how Sean is spending his time.

Not reading about killer orcas? But then he tried to present as if he's like a big ocean guy. Yeah. And he loves it. It's just the sand that is his problem. That's right.

You like the waves. You like getting in the water. I love to get in the water. I love to swim. That's always been true. I've seen you swim maybe once a vacation for like 15 minutes after playing golf. Max.

What about after hours? That's when I really like to take a dip. Well, you like a hot tub. Here's what's happened, actually, is that I've taken your child out on adventures while you sat alone in the hot tub with your laptop. I watched a cut of a documentary, a two-hour documentary in a hot tub

last time we were on a vacation together. And honestly, I had a lot of good notes, but I couldn't type them because I was in a hot tub. You sound like a psycho. Well, I was trying to work and relax at the same time. What's wrong with that? You can't do both. That's what we've learned this summer. What are you talking about? Your whole career is oriented around relaxing while working. You fucking know it's in the watch with your best friend. I'm not. I'm fucking out here. I'm like pounding the pavement trying to find out if he was on that plane.

You know what I mean? Doing the hard work. How is your new role with the Intercept going? Are you feeling good? I've lost my login for all the like digital dust encrypted messaging. So I have no idea. If anybody's been trying to reach out to me,

I'm sorry. It's a sad story. They're like, CR, CR, we know where he is. I'm like, I forgot my password. Okay, real question. Is any part of your day-to-day communication currently encrypted? No.

Okay. Nothing. No. But I don't really talk about very, I talk about nothing on my text messages that I wouldn't be happy to talk about on this podcast. Okay. More than or less than 10

erotic messages you've sent in your life. You know that I'm incredibly interested in erotica right now because of this Oppenheimer lady. I thought at least one of these would be saved for like, this is really good. You're getting it all out.

We didn't talk about it. We didn't talk about the woman who made a TikTok video about her quote unquote porn addicted husband and their experience seeing Oppenheimer and viewing Florence Pugh in her birthday suit. Is that the first time you've ever seen the phrase birthday suit? That's ridiculous. Amanda, you did some deep research on this. You have a lot of thoughts. Well, Chris made me aware of it. Yeah, i did and then i watched the tiktok and then i did do some independent reading this is not the first time that this woman has posted online about her

husband's porn addiction and how they she refers to it as porn she doesn't like saying right because it's quote-unquote triggering so this just became like this crossed over with our interest because of like Oppenheimer, you know? It was the film angle. Sure. But I have. Thanks for keeping it relevant to this pod. I appreciate that. But so I wanted to do wider reading. I learned a lot about her opinions on porn and also promoting herself assiduously in public while doing like the face like blur edit on all photos of her husband.

So she posts tons of family photos and he is the only person blanked out. There's a picture where she is in the New York Post. So we're not like diving deep and like we just read the New York Post a reputable journalistic outfit you're a huge Murdoch guy always have been yeah well I mean just there are lots of things

on laptops there's information out there yeah in the New York Post there's a picture posted of the woman who did the Oppenheimer video astride her husband

fully clothed but astride him and she's holding like holding him like a kind of in a very matronly way and he his face oh dear his face is blurred out yeah and we're thinking about making this new watch podcast art who is who though me you're you are a stride andrew oh my goodness uh guys what the

fuck is going on what are you guys talking about about? Did you miss this while you were on vacation? I was going to literally throw this to you, Bobby, because you, on the one hand, this is a tricky one, because on the one hand, you've been in Europe and you have not been able to consume this content, but you do have a porn addiction.

So how do you feel about this story and the way it intersects with our world of movies? I feel that Oppenheimer is a great film and I love them. Do you like all of the sex scenes? I love the text. All the way down? Yeah, Chris made a super cut

of them for me and he just sent them to me while I was in Paris. So, Jordan is her name with a U. Well. Where is the U? Where is the U?

Is it U-J-O-R-D-A-N? It's J-O-U-R-D-A-N. I just wanted people to be able to Google it and do their own reading like I did. Let's see. If you Google Jordan husband porn addiction, everything you need to know is right there. A lot of interesting stuff comes up. I'll bet.

Did we ever get her review of the film Oppenheimer? No, she said it had a... One thing that I thought was interesting about this was you have long been on the front lines of talking about how like rotten tomatoes does not matter. But she clearly believes in rotten tomatoes. Yeah, as she says. It has a good rating.

Yeah, I actually... That was by far the most offensive part of this TikTok to me. The porn stuff, I don't really care about people's opinions about that sort of thing. But her looking at ratings makes me want to just throw myself into the ocean. really painful right i think so as i've been thinking about your thoughts about this i've been thinking that we need a new format for this pod which is just cr clears the decks like once a month we have an episode where cr brings to bear

all of the things he thinks are important that maybe moderately intersect with the world of film. Oppenheimer was clearly. You can put Oppenheimer in the title of this podcast. Yeah. Is that what you want us to do? No, just want it to be like. I kind of already did that for the previous episode this week. Should I just put Oppenheimer or Barbie in the title of every episode?

Yes. That probably would be a good idea. I do think germinate on this idea. This is your full-blown audition for third chair. Can you execute on CR Claire's The Dex? No.

If you intend to relate them to the material you've been reading about in Murdoch's newspapers, yes, you have to go see the movies. I've seen some good movies

this summer. In August. What'd you say? Talk to me was great. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah. Yeah. You finally got a ticket. You had a hard time getting a ticket to me was great. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah. Yeah. You finally got a ticket.

You had a hard time getting a ticket to talk to me. Well, I had to go to Maine to see it. You flew to Maine to see the film? No, that's not why I went to Maine,

but it was easy to see it in Maine. Okay. Talk to me. I haven't seen that one. Theatrical behavior. You guys noticed this has been a big topic.

Oh, boy. I had a really bad one. I didn't mention this when we talked about Blue Beetle, but I was in Blue Beet beetle with like 14 teenage girls and they just yelled at each other throughout the entire movie for two straight hours no no disrespect to teenage girls but there was two teenage girls who talked through the all of talk to me which is like not out of the realm of like my experience in the past of like yeah people, people get like very animated horror movies,

but it was like eight people and two just talked really loudly the entire time. Were they talking about the movie? They're like, that's scary. This is stupid. That's scary. That guy's an idiot.

Look at my phone. So this has been like a topic of conversation, I think amongst the kind of movie world over the last year or so that there has post COVID, there has been a kind of degradation of the behavior in the theatrical world but really why just because people were stuck in their house for a few years and people are getting ruder in our culture like i don't actually don't understand it's like you paid money to come to a dark room right why do you think you should talk in in both situations that you decided they're teenagers who like don't have anywhere else to go but did you yell in the movie theaters when you were a teenager no you did bob i didn't

but all of my dumb ass friends did for sure interesting i wasn't i was a cinephile from a young age my dad was such a fucking asshole about people talking in movie theaters that i just grew up like absolutely mortified by those confrontations but also like the idea of talking in a movie theater like my wife leans over to be like what's this guy's name i'm like shut the fuck up that's true you don't if i ever turn to you you won't really engage with me uh we had some interactions during oppenheimer did we i was like the bomb is coming yeah i was sitting next to andy actually and andy is a little bit of a chit-chatter. Andy likes to...

The mic's never off for Andy. That's... You know what I mean? It did kind of feel like he was quasi-potting through the movie. But it wasn't bad. It was... He was... The jokes were good.

Yeah. So it's okay. That's all that matters. You and I, sparingly. Yeah. Tactically, though. I think so. In moments of low energy or low faith in what's about to happen on screen, there's usually one person.

Low faith. Well, you know, it's either like me, you know, trying to get Sean through like Fast X or Sean explaining to me like that's, I was going to say Deadpool. Yeah, that's MODOK. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But if I didn't know who MODOK was, I would not have laughed at those jokes. I really like the idea of you tenderly watching Blue Beetle and being completely mesmerized by what was on the screen and these girls ruining it for you. I mean,

as I said on the show, the first 45 minutes, I was like, this movie is really good. I was really enjoying it. And then it wasn't because of the teenage girls. It was just because the movie kind of devolved. But anyway, are there any other general interest topics that you'd like to address? Any other warlords who've been in the culture? That was a movie top. He was doing movie reviews. This is a movie podcast. I hit two current events.

The only way that the Progosian stuff made any sense for this particular podcast was because in all of his disguises, he looks like Sacha Baron Cohen characters. That's the only way. Who made a film that was released in 2006. Thank you for the segue. Elegant job, guys. 2006 is the year we are drafting from today. 2006, was this a... What was your movie

relationship at this time? Who were you? What were you guys doing? I mean, why don't you start? I graduated from college in 2006. You got your diploma. I did. Despite the... Do you guys still have like college anxiety dreams? I still have the one where it's like about to be graduation and I like didn't take enough

math credits or whatever. Or like, did you have like core curriculum? Did you get a degree in going outside and pursuing your hobbies and living the amanda lifestyle like what did you study in school individual study individual study you know what i studied in school because yes you get very annoyed every time but no i went to a college where you had to like take three science classes and you had to like do all the math things and i have the anxiety dream like at least once a. Did you study under Oppenheimer? I did.

Yes. That was me. That one woman that they let in. That was me. She played you. That's actually pretty good. That's good Dobbins casting. Okay, thank you.

I will accept that. So I did get a diploma, I think. Don't know where it is currently. And then I moved to New York. And so I have memories of seeing my last movie at the West Lebanon Theater, which was The Breakup in New Hampshire. I saw that movie. And then I remember seeing the rest of these in New York in various New York movie theaters. And it's kind of like the start of my young adulthood. Sierra, you graduated from the Montverde Academy in 2006.

I was an IMG. You know what I remember about this year we were homies we were friends yeah that's cute we were friends this was the year our friendship really took off

yeah we were hanging out I was working at the Fader magazine so I remember 06 because I went down to Virginia to talk to Clipse

about Hell Half No Fury I remember this so well. Great piece. Thanks, man. I'm trying to remember what else. I mean, I remember seeing a couple movies

this year with you. Did we go to the movie theater? One very, very important cinematic experience that we had together. That will definitely come up. But yeah, I just remember New York City

not like obviously like living and dying by the movies. I think you and I were both working in music. But certainly saw a bunch of these in the theater. I think that as friends, we were exploring the eccentricities of our taste. And there was a, there was one particular movie that, that illuminated.

You make it sound like it's like eyes wide shut. The eccentricities of our tastes. Like, well, I mean, we've been talking about sexy and discourse here, you know, what, what better way to start? Um, in 06, yeah, I was living in New York as well. I think I was just about to get a job at Vibe Magazine. Were you Lower East Side then? I had moved to the Lower East Side in 2006.

That was a fun apartment. It was a fun apartment. It was about 300 square foot, railroad, one bedroom on Orchard Street. Very convenient. But it was in like, it was in the heart of go time. Yeah. You know, it was like, It was like Pink Pony around the corner and Rosario Pizza. And we were out and about Arlene's Grocery. There was a lot of spots

to hit back then. It was a great time in my life. Arlene and I were having a great time. Very happy memories of that moment. I definitely did not go to the movies one-tenth as often as I go now, but I feel as though I have a very strong relationship to the very best of these movies. Does this seem like a good year to you guys when you look back at it through the prism of this drafting apparatus? I think the top tier of this movie

is pretty strong. There have been years where I feel like we could do an extra 40 minutes of honorable mentions and wild cards and shout outs. And I really love this one. This isn't that year. Not that much for this year, at least in my experience.

What do you think, Amanda? It feels like a... I was about to use a sports metaphor. And then I was like, well, I don't know that much about sports. Let's grow. I do think that there are a lot of interesting movies. So there's no center to to it but there's also like it's like a deep bench because in every category i'm like oh but what about this movie

and like oh what about this movie and what about this movie and it doesn't have that like pre-packaged feel that every year it does now like here are your five superhero movies and here are the three franchise and like here is the xZ. It's people and directors I like kind of try and different stuff. Yeah. I mean, this is, there's only two superhero movies

in the top 20 box office contenders of this year. There is a sequel at the top. Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Man's Chest was the second movie. But even then it was like, oh, wow, they made

a second one of those. That's how crazy successful the first one was. You're right. It doesn't feel, it's the first Night at the Museum movie, the first Cars movie, the first Da Vinci Code movie,

the first Happy Feet movie, the first Ice Age movie. All these movies all got sequels, but it felt like, for whatever reason, this was not the same old regurgitated bullshit that we always got. And then also, Oscar-wise, mixed bag, I would say.

Some movies that were very well-loved at the time that maybe we don't love as much as we used to, like Little Miss Sunshine was a very big movie. I would say that the people who were nominated for Oscars are all people we love, but not necessarily for this work. That's a very good way of putting it. Yeah. There's like a Leo nomination here, but maybe not for the movie you would have thought,

although a movie you did recently podcast about. I sure did. Yeah. There's, you know, an Eddie Murphy nomination here, but you know, is this the greatest Eddie Murphy performance you've ever seen? Probably not. Dreamgirls was a very big deal in 2006. Right now, it doesn't really feel like much of anything to the culture. I don't know if it is a deep bench or not. It's interesting you said that. I think in some categories, it definitely is. And in other categories for our drafting purposes, it feels a little tight. Yes.

You know, it's funny to go back and look at these things as purely a list of movies on a piece of paper and not something that was manipulated by production schedules or deciding a release schedule for a movie studio because obviously 07 is this iconic year. But it's interesting to go back and look at the years around iconic years and be like, oh, if not for two movies, 06 could have been the iconic year and 07 might have been pretty good. But I always get fascinated by these two to three to four year periods where it has this,

everybody will talk about 07 and 99 for the rest of movie history. Yeah. And obviously, it's ultimately largely incidental, right? It has nothing to do with- It's like, oh, we needed this for Christmas and this for summer. Exactly. Should we draft? What do you want to do?

You want to remind people how it goes? The categories, et cetera? Oh, yeah, if you've never listened to a draft. Well, it's been a while. It's been three full months since we've done a proper year movie draft. Right. Because we did... We were on vacation, and then we did an auction in July.

Okay. So it's been a long time. So De Niro was the... Oh, and De Niro before that? I think De Niro was the last one that we... Or maybe we did 2001, and then De Niro was the, oh, and De Niro before that? I think De Niro was the last one that we, or maybe we did 2001 and then De Niro before that. But anyway, this is obviously a signature of this podcast at this point and we haven't done one in a while. If this is the first movie draft you're listening to, we draft one movie each in six different categories.

We change the categories from time to time. Here are the six categories we'll be using for this episode drama comedy action horror or thriller blockbuster and the threshold for a film being deemed a blockbuster is 100 million dollars oscar nominee and wild card we do this in a snake fashion and we do it in a randomized order as derived by our producer bobby wagner bob some people think that it's not randomized. Some people think that I'm rigging the order. I don't really know which direction I would rig it in, honestly, if I was going to rig it.

What do you think would benefit you most professionally? Honestly, to rig it for Amanda, because I think that she would be the one to take me down if I rigged it for either of you two. Bobby, that's right. I wouldn't really care. I love you too, Bobby. Exactly. Going first is Chris, which I love you too Bobby exactly going first is Chris which I love

oh great that's good we haven't had one of those in a while we haven't but there's only one place well maybe there okay

no yeah no there's only one place I think you're right by the way June 13th we did the 2001 movie draft okay

two and a half months in the middle is Sean and that means Amanda is going to. Okay. Two is tough spot. Also,

for some reason, I guess we're explaining all the rules again, which means if you just heard those, that was Scrabble tiles shaking in a Top Gun hat, which is how I determined

the order. I thought we, are you fully still on that or we're not going to the machine? I feel like the machine usually benefits me. It does.

We go to the machine. And I can't be there to physically clear the cookies. So that's why we're going back I watched Amanda reject cookies

from a website earlier. I always declined. Always reject cookies. I always decline cookies. Again, I don't want to give them any information

they haven't earned. And then she stares at Instagram for 11 hours and is like You buy things off of Instagram. Cool jeans into her phone. They've earned that.

Have you ever just Siri'd something as banal as cool jeans? No, I don't really Siri. I only Siri in the car. You're more Alexa? I don't use any of those, even though my voice is like very clearly like entered into whatever bots they have

at this point but i am just like i don't want them listening to me so i don't use them but i use siri in the car occasionally but mostly just be like please play raffi because nox is screaming when you are sitting with your cyberdyne japanese robot do you utter sex commands? What do you say? We're going to lease you a vicanter and stare. You have the first pick. I'm going to take The Departed in Oscar nominees. That is the pick. I thought about taking it for Blockbuster, but I like some of our Blockbusters this year,

and I think it's... You said Oscar nominee? Yeah, I did. And that's The Departed directed by Martin Scorsese. I've been told that sometimes I get very worked up about films

and then don't say the title very clearly. You said The Departed. The Departed. The Departed? The world needs plenty of bartenders. This is one of my

favorite movies. I'm so happy to get it. We've done two rewatchables on it. I find some of the movies. You've done it rewatchables on it. I find some- You've done it twice? We have. We did the Departed and the Re-Departed.

Yes. I joined for the Re-Departed. When was the Re-Departed? Recently. Recently. In the last 16 months. We did it in person. Okay.

Really fun pod. We did a lot on Nicholson, and especially the Nicholson breaking Leo's hand again with a boot. I believe that's when we spent a lot of time on the combat zone. Oh, yeah. An area of Boston, Massachusetts that you helped forge, actually. You helped design it. Bill and I.

Yeah, that's exciting. Bill and I were sort of founding fathers there. The Departed absolutely rules. Yeah. It is. It's the best. It is a five-star movie. I still don't totally understand it, but it rules. Yeah. It is. It's the best. It is a five star movie. I still don't totally

understand it but it rules. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Everybody's just doing their best including Vera Farmiga. I'll never listen to Comfortably Numb

the same way again. So that's my pick. The Departed. That's a very good pick. Gosh. The Departed. I don't know what to do. I do know what to do here.

I do know what to do. I think there's actually only one move to do here. I do know what to do. I think there's actually only one move to do and that is in Blockbuster to take a film that Amanda and I just recently podcasted about

which is Casino Royale. I thought actually that's what you would do. Oh, really? Yeah. Now, there are a variety of reasons of why I'm taking this movie here.

One, obviously, I love the movie. We just talked about it at length. Second best Daniel Craig Bond movie, in my opinion, by a wide margin.

After Quantum. Not after Quantum. after Quantum after Skyfall and just a terrific reintroduction to the James Bond character if you want to hear my thoughts at length

about the movie you can listen to more pod about it do you think that's cool do you think people are like what I want to hear when you guys draft is you referring to

other pods where you've talked about these movies in depth should we have more is it okay if I say I don't give a shit yeah is that okay yeah this Is it okay if I say I don't give a shit? Yeah. Is that okay?

Yeah. This is a safe space. I kind of don't give a shit. This was the number nine movie at the box office that year. Yeah. Made $165 million. That's not a lot. In the United States.

How much did it make globally? Probably closer to 500, 600. Let's find out. That was a perfect number for a global sensation to make. No more billion chasing. 616. There you go. Pretty good guess. Anything you want to say about Casino Royale?

You're frustrated here? No, I'm just trying to piece together my moves. Blockbuster's tough. Blockbuster and one other category. In some ways, Blockbuster is very easy for me, and I'll probably just do it but um then i'm trying to decide how far ahead i want to think okay um in black but no reflections on the insane hotness of ava green in casino royale well i

thought you were going to say the insane hotness of uh daniel craig walking out of the water in the blue trunks, which is still just incredibly important to me. You did a 48-minute deep dive breakdown of that on The Ringer's YouTube channel. About him coming out of the water? Yeah. So people should check that out too. You can tell where they did a little CGI on his pecs here.

I see. I'm really excited to check out the structures still standing in Venice next week. Have we officially announced that? I don't know. I sort of did. Do you think you'll have a big pick meetup in Venice? I'd love to.

All my Venetian BP heads want to come through? With whom? That's what I'm saying. If there's probably a Venetian guy who cleans pigeon crap off of like a basilica there you're saying that that's our core audience in Venice

what I love is Amanda with her hobbies what are the what are the primary occupations of watch listeners in Venice they crank it

yeah gondola driver who cranks it to Oppenheimer yeah jerk off officers okay if there are any big picture listeners currently Gondola driver who cranks it to Oppenheimer. Yeah. Jerk-off officers. If there are any big picture listeners currently residing in Venice. I'll cost Amanda in the street, please.

This will be released while I'm there. Say, attenzione! Yeah, here we go. I was just thinking I should probably practice some basic Italian phrases. Now's the time. Yeah. Oh, right now? Mommy joke!

Much, much. Allora. I know, time. Yeah. Oh, right now? Mommy joke. Allora. I know per favore. Right? There we go. That's really all I know. You can go Negroni. Yeah, Negroni, Campari,

Lido. I think I'm good, right? Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah, you're going to do great. Enzo Ferrari. That's right. Oh, yeah. I'm seeing that one.

Did you guys see Mike Mann's variety piece where he was like i'm too busy for to die essentially yeah i've heard others say that about him as well i did i the notable thing about that of course is that he said in that piece that he did in fact speak to adam driver about portraying vincent yeah i know Which, again, Chris. I'm treating this like I'm treating Prokosian. Okay. How is that? Just, I'm waiting for all the facts to come in.

Okay. Oscar Isaac is Neil, Austin Butler is Chris. Who says no? I, wow. I don't say no. That's really powerful. I don't say no. That would be amazing.

I think everyone here has agreed on that. God, do it, Michael. What do you have to lose? Nothing. All right, let's here has agreed on that. God. Do it, Michael. What do you have to lose? Nothing. All right. Let's see what Ferrari's like. Okay. I'll let you know.

Okay. Heard it's good. For the Ferrari pod, we're doing a nine-hour Public Enemies pod. Okay. Are you up for it? Do you think that we should

go back through cinema history for all cinematic representations of Enzo Ferrari or Ferrari mentions like should we do a Ford versus Ferrari watch along I mean Bobby

it's his number one movie Ford versus Ferrari watch along is actually a fun idea that movie is awesome also they never talk it's just car noises so we can talk over

the whole fucking movie it's actually easy to talk over exactly that's a good point okay you gotta make a pick we stalled for you enough

I know well okay in Blackbuster i will take the devil wears prada um uh one of my favorite movies of the last i don't know of my adulthood would that have gone well if one of us had picked that no uh i blame this movie for me working in magazines but it brought you to us well yeah and here we are but I saw

it's really funny to think of it as the movie that came out when you graduated from college I saw it in like not Lincoln Center

but like the 82nd Street Upper West Side movie theater I remember it it came out like a month after I graduated college you moved right to New York

I did yeah and I wanted to work I guess like I wanted to work either in books or magazines but then I saw this and I was like, ooh, magazines. Because you don't want to work in classics. I mean, no. What jobs? Teaching classics.

That would be boring. Also, I was not that good. I was not good enough. We've seen as her knowledge has atrophied as she misrepresents the Bible on this podcast over and over and over again. The Bible was actually not covered in classics. I was doing. That explains a lot. Okay. I was doing pre Bible. Okay.

Anyway, I think that this is a delightful movie. One of the best Meryl Streep performances on record. And she was nominated for an Oscar for it. This could have gone in a lot of different categories, but I don't know. I just went with Blockbuster because that's where my heart is. Good one. And then

I have another pick. I feel like there's a pretty good Amanda Slate here in this year. Yeah. No, there certainly is. But I don't want to other you. Perhaps you also are interested in the boy films of Michael Mann and Christopher Ryan. Well, 300? That's on the board. Maybe you want to get that. I'm going to skip that. I don't interested in the boy films of Michael Mann and Christopher Ryan? Well...

300? That's on the board. Maybe you want to get that. I'm going to skip that. I don't think that this is a boy film, but I think both of you would be interested in it, which is why in action horror thriller, I'm going to take Inside Man. Interesting.

It's an awesome film. Which is one of my favorite Spike Lee movies. A great New York movie. Awesome Den movies. A great New York movie. Awesome Denzel. A great Denzel movie. Awesome Christopher Plummer. Just across the board, amazing. And also a very fun movie to see in New York, your first year living in New York.

So, just A-plus movie. Great pick. Thank you. It was definitely on my board. Mine as well. I don't know. Maybe I guess I wasn't thinking of it as a thriller, but it's definitely a thriller.

Yeah. Yeah. No, that's accurate. I think I had it in another category. Love Inside Man, another film that has been rewatched on the rewatchables. All right. I have a pick.

I feel that Oscar nominee is fairly thin in terms of big mainstream movies. There are some interesting side doors for Oscar nominee is fairly thin in terms of big mainstream movies. There are some interesting side doors for Oscar nominee, but I'm going to, I'm going to stick to the, to the core and go with children of men, which is Alfonso Cuaron's incredible sci-fi drama about the very near future in which birth is hardly possible and fertility reigns over the world and a kind of

sense of panic and distress and violence and overthrowing is happening constantly. And I think is in the conversation for the best made movie of the 21st century. I don't know that that's an interesting one. You know, maybe not the best movie, but that in Prisoners. Sure. Yes. whatever you say I mean I would have said Sicario

I think Sicario is similarly brilliantly made is it always the best movie not necessarily but you know this is just like a breathtaking movie

at times I really like a grounded dystopia not like there's a giant dinosaur on screen but if this was going to happen

it might look just like this harrowing movie incredible performances from Clive Owen Chiwetel Ejiofor Julianne Moore on screen. Right. But if this was going to happen, it might look just like this. Harrowing movie, incredible performances from Clive Owen, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Julianne Moore, Michael Caine,

heartbreaking Michael Caine performance. So this is a great, this is a great pure five-star movie. I think it's like in a lot of ways when we're like, why aren't they,

why aren't there original stories that are, you know, have movie stars with master filmmakers? Like this is a prime example of what we're talking about. Academy Award nominated. Did pretty good business

at the box office. I love this movie. So, Children of Men in Oscar nominee. You didn't have to vamp. I didn't mean to. I just... You did a great job.

We've never done this on The Rewatchables. And I want to say thank you and I want to say thank you. I'm going to take Miami Vice in Thriller and I'm going to take Miami Vice in Thriller and I'm going to take the Prestige in Drama.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Okay. Great. You don't want to speak about either of those movies? You know,

how, I think that actually if you guys ever have a dead zone, an interesting podcast conversation would be what your favorite Christopher Nolan film

says about you. Okay. Because there's like a huge contingent of people who are like, actually, I like The Prestige. Yeah, so you and Aaron Rodgers? No, I don't like The Prestige.

That's not my favorite. That's not my favorite. You don't like The Prestige. You just drafted it. You just drafted it. I like The Prestige. It's not my favorite Christopher Nolan movie.

Okay. Let's just go. Can we replay the tape really quickly, Bob? Let's just hear what Chris just said. I can have the court reporter read back to you what you just said.

I don't need him read back to me like I'm a child. I like The Prestige a lot. It's not my favorite Christopher Nolan movie. What's your favorite

Dark Knight Rises? Just the sex scene in Oppenheimer. The one that Emily Blunt sees. But I think it's been really fascinating when these films come out

and he seems to be there's not that same dialogue about what's your favorite Paul Thomas Anderson movie and what does that say about you it seems to be Nolan it's like Interstellar has a certain contingent

I think Dark Knight obviously has a certain contingent Prestige seems to be the new it's kind of the indie rock pick. Yeah. You know? Exactly. Yeah.

Anyway, I love it. It's great. Shout out to David Bowie. He's in this film, right? Yeah. Yes.

I've been listening to a lot of David Bowie recently. He plays Nikola Tesla. And I've also been listening to a lot of Linkin Park and Jay-Z collaborations, which is great because that's in Miami Vice. In fact, it's heavily featured in Miami Vice

which is one of my favorite movies ever made. I think... Chris, can I tell you something about Sweden? The Ringer's Charles Holmes and I did Did you guys do encore?

at a karaoke bar. Wow. That is awesome. In Stockholm. The thing is that shit is hard as fuck. No, no. Hold on.

Hold on. No. First of all... Listen, I graduated from college in 2006. I'm with Chris and Bobby I'm having a panic attack I

you're in your 40s you actually understand what's great about Jay-Z and you were there when it was happening and it was not

the Linkin Park collaboration but we all liked Encore though did you not like Encore? no on the Black album I liked Encore

but I you didn't think this shit was kind of slapped a little? No! Because I'm not 18! Yeah. Oh, my God. That's a real...

The Prestige is my favorite Christopher Nolan movie opinion. Then you'll fucking be like, you know, it's great as Audioslave. I do like Audioslave. So it's just like everybody has their thing.

But I don't like Audioslave more than Rage Against the Machine. I didn't say that. I didn't say I liked it more than the fucking Black Album. I just said this, when it's played in a nightclub and Crockett and Tubbs are fucking night visioning it, it's cool.

It's a good drop. You're not who I thought you were. I thought you were down from day one. I think that you're doing this because you know I just won. No, you were going to win any year that had Miami Vice because the hordes will show up I'm not upset about

I'm actually quite hurt that the guy who understands the greatness of the blueprint and reasonable doubt and the true great artistry

that Jay-Z gave us is caping on this podcast I'm not caping I'm just saying for Linkin Park shame on you it's just Linkin Park killed

what you loved don't you realize that don't you know that? That our society, our musical society, folded in on itself in 2006? That's when it all began

to go... Do you listen to a lot of rap now? I try. I try. I make a sincere effort, but it's not, it's not going well for me. Okay.

But I'm trying to stay engaged. So those are my two picks. I took the Prestige and Miami Vice. Let's talk about going to see Miami Vice together, okay? Because it was... I think one of the first things I knew about you

was you were a huge Michael Mann guy. I don't know if I knew that you were a fan of the Miami Vice TV show. Why are you acting like we exchanged letters but never met? We hung out like once a week. We went to bars all the time. We did.

I think I knew of you that you were a righty. I know that you had read some books. It's like we fucking, I was like drowning in beer for the whole decade. Were you saying to me over Budweiser, I can't fucking wait for Miami Vice. You were, right? Yeah, but I think that the vibe off of this movie

when it was initially released, it was like, this is not what you might think it's going to be, which is heat. You know what I mean? Like, I think everybody was, was kind of expecting that and that it obviously

had a very troubled production. One that Colin Farrell openly does not remember. Yep. And this film has exploded since its release where it's become like the movie of,

of film, Tumblr, Twitter, obviously, but beyond that it's just such a magical experience. I think it's become like the movie of film tumblr twitter obviously but is beyond that is just such a magical experience i think it's been recontextualized because a lot of people think the way that it looks the way it was shot is actually kind of revolutionary in the aftermath of like the digital revolution in hollywood um i am not ashamed to say that chris was ahead of the curve on that and

then when i saw it i was, that movie looked like shit. Shame to say. And it has a horrible script and is incoherent. Now, it is a great meme script. You know, go fast boats and mojitos and all that. I get it. I know why it's become the thing that it is. When's the last time you watched this movie?

It's been a while. Okay, maybe you should do that. I might. I might revisit it. But when I first saw it, there was a fissure. Chris looks like he's about to. I know. It's like I'm talking about his wife.

I know. We're recreating it. I know. This is really intense. Okay. But this was interesting because it was early in our friendship. And I was like, I don't know about that one, man. Like that is not.

And I think I just like disappeared into the night. You were trying to be nice. You were trying because we were fairly newish friends. And you were not going to be like, you're a fucking idiot. I'd never do that. You would never do that. But even then you were very polite. But I know that secretly in your But even then, you were very polite.

But I know that secretly in your heart of hearts, you were like, I wish that Sean liked that more so that we could go cry about it over 10 more beers. But that didn't happen. The Prestige I like and I've always liked.

The Prestige is great. I think I said it was my third favorite Nolan movie when we talked about Oppenheimer. It's really good. And Aaron Rodgers, number one. Yeah. What did you think of that?

Well, what did you think is the real question? Well, there was a mentalist on the hard knock season with the Jets. Oh, wow. It was sick. It was kind of like

the prestige was happening. What was that guy's name? O's? Yeah. Well, for a second, I thought Robert Sala was bringing Dr. Oz out and I was like,

oh, shit. That would have been problematic. Do you feel like you have a healthy attitude going into this Jets season? You know, that's a generous question. He's wearing a green shirt. That's why I'm wearing

a truly a Jets green shirt. I don't know. You don't know where you are? I don't know. You know, sometimes something happens, probably similar to like when you watch the Devil Wears Prada, where I'm like, it's just kind of all been leading to this. Like 40 years of agonizing Jets fandom has all kind of,

because everybody I know is going to be asking all of those. Yeah. Aaron Rodgers has been alive. Yeah, that's right. All for which is obviously not ideal.

I wish he was not 39. I wish he was 29 hard to not be excited. How can you not be excited? I've been rooting for absolute morons who've been playing quarterback

for the Jets. I'm just like you feel tethered to reality or do you feel like the little Mets thing I've never felt positivity. So like, how could I be over excited? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. We can't talk about the Mets right now.

Okay. Moratorium. So today, as of this recording, the Mets are not back. They are not back. Okay. They're not back. They're so far from back. It's been real up and down day to day.

It's so over for the Jets. We are so back for the Jets. Okay. Do you know who's looking pretty good, though, in the NL East? Is it the Eagles? No, the Phils. Oh, the Phils. Well, we turned on the game after Bryce Harper hit, like, the...

Did they win? I don't know what game this is referring to. Okay. I don't know. He hit a home run. He's been doing that a lot. Yeah. Philly's look pretty good.

Not as good as the Atlanta Braves who are the best team of the decade I don't you know that's right that's Amanda's once again

yeah the Fulton County jail everything's coming up Amanda incredible time for you come to Fulton County get a Rico charge you know

that's what we offer I cannot wait to charge the Braves with Rico many many inside baseball are wondering how they keep executing these deals. Perhaps it is racketeering.

All right. I have a pick. There's only one place to go. Best in-movie theater experience I had in 2006. A little movie called Borat, my wife! My wife!

Let me remind people how special this was when Sacha Baron Cohen, coming off of the great success great success of the ali g show which was converted to hbo and then was a very popular show my wife and i adored this show i don't is it is is ali g like inappropriate now i don't think so i think it's still great let's just let it be what it was which is great and and borat was also great borat um i would say modernized the the contemporary satire mockumentary was kind of a spinal tap for our generation about a kazakhstan reporter who is a deeply inappropriate person and um i watched this movie during covid in

preparation for borat 2 and the first movie is incredible. I loved it. I don't know if Borat will live on in the hearts and minds of younger people. Does Gen Z care about Borat? Probably not, right? Bob, you're not Gen Z.

I love when you guys throw to me for this. Like, I'm supposed to know what 17-year-olds care about. I can tell you one thing. It was the single most important thing to boys of my age for about 12 straight years.

So I was 10 when this came out. And it was all anyone talked about. I saw this movie so many times between the ages of 10 and 18. I almost feel like I've never seen it because I just don't remember anything. As a wife, do you find my wife funny?

That's the as a father of daughters for Borat questions. But it was like so I became a wife 10 years after my wife. It was a good joke. So I think like five years in it would have not

been comfortable. And then the first time that Zach would say like my wife, he like basically couldn't say it because it would get stuck. Without berating it. Yeah, it would get stuck, which like is not because it's not Zach's fault. It's just like, that's natural. So, but yeah, it's pretty good. Chris, I absolutely love the way you asked that question like you were like going to the you know the flyover states to ask people what they think

we have a wife right here we flew to a small town diner um i'm taking board in comedy by the way uh movie rips you seen it recently uh i just watched clips i've been there's also like a really good the the two men nude wrestling in the hotel room bit that's what you go back to yeah um this is a great era of curb larry charles was just really dealing he was locked in yeah you know he has a movie coming out this fall does he it's called dicks the musical oh that's cool um it's a musical about two long-lost twin brothers uh who are dicks it's directed by larry charles are they both named dick or not sure okay not sure haven't gotten into the etymological history and now amanda's got two yeah so i'm just i'm just gonna go full Amanda here, which has never been a mistake in the past.

In Oscar nominee, I will take The Queen, which is the Peter Morgan film starring Helen Mirren. What's up with Helen Mirren just trying to double down on The Queen with Golda Meir? You did this once. You won an Oscar. Like, let's leave it be. But she's very good in The Queen. Where is the maestro discourse around Helen? Is Helen Mirren Jewish? That's a great question, Ian. You want to talk about the maestro discourse?

Well, I thought it was really funny. And it's just an example of how this will be in the absence of like getting to interview people one of the craziest award seasons we've ever had because we're just left to our own devices so it's like nobody's interviewed bradley cooper nobody knows anything about this movie and so instead we're just gonna be like you're not allowed to have that nose it's just like is this it's like unsupervised recess you know it's a really funny

way of putting it this did cross my mind legitimately because this movie Golda the Golda Meir biopic starring Helen Mirren is coming out

at the end of August and Golda Meir was the Prime Minister of Israel I'm not getting that same feedback it's kind of weird

right it's pretty weird anyway Helen Mirren as the British Queen Queen Elizabeth that same feedback? It's kind of weird, right? It's pretty weird. Anyway, Helen Mirren as the British Queen, Queen Elizabeth, RIP. Really good. This movie, I really enjoy it

and it's also kind of like the testing ground for The Crown, which is a television show that Chris and I really enjoy. Sure do. We'll be going to, and we're going to go see

Peter Morgan's play. Oh, yeah. Right? When it goes to New York you're gonna go together to New York it's about Putin Putin yeah

what yes is Prokosian in it no but Tom Hollander's in it is he playing Putin no he's another guy I love Tom Hollander yeah

who doesn't he's great anyway big fan of the queen and then in drama I will take Marie Antoinette oh man yeah my favorite Sofia Coppola movie you truly are being the wife well you know and then in drama I will take Marie Antoinette oh man yeah

my favorite Sofia Coppola movie you truly are being the wife well you know we are recording this yes your love for Marie Antoinette

is on the record it's PP it's pre-Priscilla it's pre-Priscilla we're pre-Priscilla you are about a week and a half away they didn't let

them use Elvis music in this movie that's what I was going to ask I know. It's tough. But on the other hand, it's not about Elvis, number one. He's like a figure on the side.

It's about his wife. It's too easy. It's too easy. It's like you're in the home run derby and they're just throwing you softballs it's incredible okay uh you love elvis's music though so this is a you know i do but i got elvis with his music and how did that do and then also maria trinette is a great example of uh sofia coppola using non-contemporaneous music. What's that word that starts with an A?

Not anachronistic. Yes, anachronistic music to great effect in film. What's that word? Sometimes I do my words. Sometimes I do my numbers. I think the next step for her, because she's done this before. It would be really funny if she pretended like

a Susie and the Banshees song was playing actually on the radio in 1958. I feel like that's the next step for her. Well, you don't know. We haven't seen it yet. Could be. You're right. Could be.

You're excited about that movie. Yeah, of course. I'm going to the premiere. Paramore style song in Ahsoka. Is there? Yeah. And it's like, I'm like, I don't understand this at all. Like, how did rock get to Star Wars?

Tell us about Ahsoka. No. Oh, my. All right. Well, good picks. Thanks. I feel like your lights have shined. Yeah.

Except for when you admitted you didn't like the prestige. That was the funniest thing that's ever happened on one of these. Note that I'm a little snobby. What do you have right now? I have an interesting slate. I have Borat, Casino Royale, and Children of Men. Okay. Wait, did you get two?

Oh, you did. You took your two. I took the P and M rant. Yeah. men okay i mean did you get two oh you did you took your two and now yeah yeah well i think i'm gonna go i'll tell you what i'm just gonna pick a wild card because there's just a movie that i really want and that movie is talladega nights the ballad of ricky bobby putting that in wild card wow that's some dirty shit wow was. Was that a good pick or what? Lee Atwater. That was some strategy and some truth.

The thing about you is when the tension is simmering, you just drive right into it. Of course. You know? Yeah. I'm a man of conflict. He was playing dead the entire time. I know. And he's like, oh yeah, sure.

The hordes are going to vote for you. And like, oh man, what if the music is inaccurate? And then he was just like, I took fucking Will Ferrell's blockbuster comedy in wild card. It's almost like I invented this game. You know that's not the spirit of the wild card category. What do you mean? The wild card category is for us to celebrate little known films.

What's more wild than Ricky Bobby tearing it up on the racetrack? Yeah, absolutely. Speaking of Ricky Bobby, we all know recently Christopher Nolan talked about one of his favorite movies of all time, Talladega Nights. Did you hear that clip? I believe it was on the Rich Eisen show when he was doing press for Oppenheimer.

He noted that when he's flipping around the movie he most wants to see when he's cruising cable, Talladega Nights. Obviously a hilarious movie. Not quite as funny as Anchorman. Anchorman is the pinnaclenacle yes of that era of comedy of course in my opinion um but it's pretty close you're a real piece of shit i can't believe this and you know that there's no more good comedies too yeah it's a good move i feel good about it

i mean honestly the other category is a little tricky for me right now because you guys swooped in so effectively in the early stages so i had to make a move. Okay. You feeling good? I just think it's funny. Okay. Okay. Sierra, you're up. Okay. So for, what do I have so far? I have Drama, I have The Prestige. In Action Horror Thriller, I have Miami Vice.

In Blockbuster, I have The Departed. No, in Oscar nominee, I have The Departed. For Blockbuster, I'm going to take Mission Impossible 3. Okay. Let's discuss that. Sure. I'm going to take Mission Impossible 3. Okay. Let's discuss that. Sure. I have it on my list as well. We talked about it somewhat in our Mission Impossible podcasting.

Where did it ultimately land on our list? Do you remember our ranking? Remember, Bobby? Were you advocating mega for it or mega against it? I was advocating for it, yes. It's the single greatest performance in any of these movies. Oh.

Maggie Q. Is Carrie Russell. Okay. I mean, she is quite good at it. She's great. Until her eyes. Philip Seymour Hoffman

is unbelievable at this. He is really good and I do like the villain. But I remember our conversation now. It just, it looks so junky. It landed at

number six. Six? Yeah. Yeah. Chris, I'm not a dog. You guys are McQ-pilled. Are you serious? Six? I don't know when the last time you saw it was, but Yeah. Yeah. Chris, I'm not a dog. You guys are McQ-pilled. Are you serious?

I don't know when the last time you saw it was, but one... I saw it recently leading up to Mission Impossible Dead Rex 1. This is why...

Because I do the work. ...CR can't be in the third chair is because he's a TV podcaster. And that's a movie that looks like TV. I'm sorry to say. Oh, you guys gotta give me a fucking break.

You just picked Borat. What are you talking about? It looks like Alias. I'm sorry to say. Oh, you guys gotta give me a fucking break. You just picked Borat. What are you talking about? It looks like Alias. I don't know what to say, man. It does look a little... There is also something you two are making right now. I'm just amused

by your outrage. I just can't believe that you're just like, that doesn't look good enough for me. I mean, many of the action shots look like a CSI credit sequence.

Let's talk about the other filmmakers in the Mission Impossible sequence. Of course, Christopher McQuarrie. Need I remind you of Brian De Palma, John Woo, and Brad Bird. What do you think about them relative to J.J. Abrams? I don't know, but whenever you use the movie phone voice, I don't take you seriously.

John Woo. What do you think of Brad Bird? Mission Impossible 3 is good. Uh-huh. But it's not as good as all the five movies that we rated ahead of it.

I think that's accurate. I'm sorry. But Bob agrees with you. Let's just look at the box office from that year and just so you know, like, what else here

would you have picked instead of Mission Impossible 3? Why don't you just tell me the movie I should have picked? Because I haven't seen any of these cartoons. So I don't know just tell me the movie I should have picked? Because I haven't seen any of these cartoons. So I don't know any don't know shit

about the penguins. Have you watched any of the Studio Ghibli movies yet? No. Okay. I almost watched an episode of Castlevania the other night.

Okay. Why? It was fucking weird. Just to be like I'm on top of TV this week? It was just in the Netflix screeners. Yeah.

Did you play Castlevania? What is, what's happening? Do you know what Castlevania is? Bobby, do you know what that is? No. Is that a show?

Oh my God. You knew it when we were kids. Yeah, that's why we were going to watch one. On the Nintendo Entertainment System, NES. Yeah, I couldn't have that.

There was a game called Castlevania. There were many, actually a series of games about Castlevania, which was, I believe, about a crusading kind of, not quite a knight, but more of like a warrior figure

who battles like horror figures. Like there's like vampires and ghouls and goblins in this giant castle. Okay. That he has to, you have to kind of like move through the castle on a side scroll. But it has since become adapted in this kind of long running, right? Netflix animated series?

So you were just going to check out like season three of Castlevania? I think I was just like, I'm curious to see because it's been on for such a long time and I've heard that it's very good, but I was like, I don't know why I'm doing this. I'm, you know, it's a crisis every night. There's so much to watch. know there is there is are you having a hard time with the watch no no I just wish I had one friend in the world who would talk to me about special ops lioness I have I just got an email being like the new episode's available I haven't seen one nobody will talk to me okay how about this about this? This is an honest request. Amanda and I both

watch three episodes and you invite Amanda and I both onto the watch. I'll do it. And then we discuss it. Okay. Do you remember when Day of the Soldado

came out and you were like, that was pretty good, but Jesus Christ, that's dark. Yeah. That's what this show is. Okay. That might be a little

much for Amanda. I saw Day of the Soldado. I can hang. Did you enjoy it? I didn't have a bad time. Okay. That might be a little much for Amanda. I saw Day of the Soldado. I can hang. Did you enjoy it? I didn't have a bad time. Okay. You'd be surprised how much time

kidnapping you enjoyed. Well, I guess now I will probably be a little upset. There's a lot of time spent on Zoe Saldana's personal life. I think that sounds wonderful.

With Dave Annabelle. Isn't Nicole Kidman also in this? She is. She plays a woman named Caitlin. See, I... Yeah. Okay. Is Nicole Kidman also in this? She is. She plays a woman named Caitlyn. See, I... I wouldn't say she has Caitlyn energy.

That will be totally normal. And she's married to Martin Donovan from all the Hal Hartley movies. Oh, wow. He's a day trader or like kind of more important than that. But he's like kind of moving the stock market based on what's happening with the CIA. That seems like a good next act for you. Honestly. He's moving the stock market.

Yeah. At home. He likes to get up before China gets up. Is Zoe Saldana's character's name Lioness? No, it's Joe. Oh, that's disappointing. But so Lioness is like the program? Yeah, the Lioness program.

Okay. Where the women get close to. How does the British women's soccer team feel about this branding? English, I guess I should say. The reality of lioness takes place outside of the recent successes of the lionesses. Of the lionesses. Okay. Well, once again, they don't get the respect that they're-

If I have another daughter, I'll name her lioness for you. Okay. But you won't watch the show. Lioness Chris Ryan fantasy. So I like doing the watch a lot. We committed to three episodes. Yeah. Yeah, I'll name her Lioness for you. Okay. But you won't watch the show. Lioness Chris Ryan fantasy. So I like doing the watch a lot. We committed to three episodes. Yeah. Yeah, I'll do it.

I'll do it. I know you won't. What? Dare me. Can you teach me? How do I watch it? It's on Paramount Plus. Okay.

So is it downloadable? Can I download it for the plane? Downloadable? Oh, for the plane? Yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah, you can. Yeah.

I think you have to have a certain level of Paramount Plus subscription to download because I thought I was going to be able to do that for Mission Impossible. Should I just... So I took... What did I just take? You took Mission Impossible 3. Which I meant to.

And I love that film. Okay. You got so upset. I know. I was just like, that was a real bullshit move by you guys. Both like really dork looking stuff sometimes.

I am actually... But no one was like, I'm going to see Borat for the cinematography. I have multiple copies of American Cinematographer Magazine. Multiple copies? Not the same issue. Is that a fact? Were you featured in those issues? I love reading interviews with cinematographers. Cool.

What's the last one that you read? I feel like I read an interview online with Bradford Young. Oh, okay. I listened to the Team Deacons pod.

Certainly, so do I. The Benicio Del Toro episode was really good. Yeah, they're real friends. My other pick for my drafting.

Yeah. Because I have another pick. Your other, are you picking Benicio Del Toro, the man? He's not available. Let's pick a film. I'm picking Jackass 2. That's a good pick. In comedy.

Yeah, that's a good, but that actually was, that is, there is one more good comedy on the board. It's Jackass number two. That would be my second favorite in theater movie going experience of 2006 yeah they always are that was uh that was one of the better pods that you and i ever did chris was there a deleted scene in this one where like they were gonna start a terrorist incident yeah i think that's in the jackass number 2.5. Okay, yeah. Because you know how after every movie... How many of the Jackass films have you seen? I saw the most recent one.

Oh, you did? Yeah, I watched it at home. Were you on leave when you did that? I was on leave, yeah. I've seen the first one, obviously. I think the rest, I've just seen clips. And then I also arguably live with the next generation member of Jackass in my son. Yeah, we had the pleasure

of seeing Knox yesterday and I was like, he's got some Knoxville energy, this kid. And I don't mean Tennessee. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. So, Jackass number two, great pick. Thanks. That's a wonderful movie. So, I have a pick, huh?

Mm-hmm. Tricky one. My open categories are drama and action horror thriller. Okay. Not a very good horror movie year. Were you surprised by that?

Yeah, it was a terrible one. Why is that? There are some gaps. There are some years where they're just not really doing them. Is this pre... After... Scream's over by now, right? I think so.

The first iteration of Scream, right? Yeah. I think so. I don't know when... Oh,'ll scream for fd3 is up in this piece which is the i mean it's final destination three is a tough film like not a good movie but the actual first set piece is iconic it's the roller coaster that is an incredible one we had to do an fd pod i think i wish they would make there's a flaw in death's design yeah i've heard when we were talking about that we were on trip was that yeah we were trying to you guys were trying to explain it to zach she was like even like less literate in this than i am

i'm at least familiar with the concept have seen an opening or two yeah and zach was just like okay but like what's the flaw you know like how does it work it's not but let's not bother with petty things you know there is one just accept that that's the truth yeah uh i'm not gonna take ft3 in drama i'm gonna take little children god damn it which is todd fields i you know you and i have been on this island this is until was this his masterpiece or was in the bedroom his masterpiece before Tar is an interesting question of course one of our favorites

an incredible writer director this is an adaptation of a Tom Perotta novel Kate Winslet Patrick Wilson Patrick Wilson the dumbest hot guy

of all time in this film in this film Kate Winslet accomplished and then he was like what I need to do is get extremely rich

from Conjuring movies and then marry Dagmara from Succession. Yeah. Dagmara appears in the film Bottoms. Oh, does she? Which I would encourage you to check out. Her role is very funny. Oh, yeah.

Little Children is a great movie about suburban malaise. I may be entering a Little Children era of my life, but not really. Yeah. Not really, because i would never transgress in that way however that book is clearly written from a point of view of uh so are you patrick wilson in that gosh i hope so no because good luck to you is what i have to say respectfully i'm jackie earl haley i think no uh that's a terrific movie very very like wry yeah version of it's not american in the bedroom is first little children was second and then the todd father takes 20 years off right

my guy took 16 years off not really directed i think he wrote many screenplays and directed commercials and was working but uh we missed him i remember one thing very memorably about this movie is the um the a decision that some critics did not like but that I thought was brilliant which was to use the narrator of Frontline to be the kind of voice of God

introducing and closing the story which I thought was a cool choice especially for an adaptation of a novel. But some people may have thought that was overwrought or silly. I did not. I thought it was very funny. Okay. Amanda, you're up. I gonna do little children and wild card so but that's

okay i've got two picks left and i know i think i know what i'm gonna do in comedy i'm obviously gonna take the holiday uh which is wow this is the full amanda smorgasbord well jesus is the greatest amanda year of all time i don't know know because I will say, stand by Nancy forever. She's just Instagramming her heart out right now. So I want to say- Nancy Pelosi, you mean. Yeah. Directors of a certain age on Instagram power rankings right now.

Number one, Francis Ford Coppola. If you're not involved, you're missing out. He's working really hard. He's working so hard. He's doing anniversary posts. He's posting for Sophia, for Priscilla. It's tremendous stuff. He's doing anniversary posts. He's posting for Sophia, for Priscilla. It's tremendous stuff. He's doing Q&As. He always

answers the question about what he has for breakfast on his Q&A. He gets it every time. Same breakfast? Yeah. He's a Chobani yogurt guy. And, well, you know. You don't support that? I've pivoted back to Cheerios. Okay. Oh, wow. Well, I mean, you're exploring your relationship to dairy.

With cow's milk or oat milk? Oat milk. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Okay. I have stayed on cow's milk the whole time. Cool.

I can digest dairy and I'm proud. Do you know what my breakfast is every morning? It's- Nothing. A steaming hot pot of coffee, black. That's what I drank this morning. I drank an entire pot of coffee before 7 a.m. today while watching

Alice. And by 7.12, I was like, I'm the Incredible Hulk. Did you not put a single thing in your stomach other than that? I did not eat until you guys saw me wolf down a piece of mozzarella cheese about 48 minutes ago. See, I want to get you in. You should start using Nicorette lozenges because that'll

take you to the next level. You should start getting a deliveryte lozenges because that'll take you to the next level. You should start getting a delivery meal service. So we have some food in your stomach so you're not like this all the time. I'm solo parenting, so I don't have a partner to help me get food into my body. I literally brought two sacks of food to your home.

Well, technically, I ordered it and Chris picked it up and brought it to your home. It was a true team effort. It was deeply appreciated. I've never wanted anything more than to get you some fucking protein, man. You've got to get some protein. There's a whole chicken in your fridge. I'm not going to eat that at 6.45 in the morning.

But it's a fair point. I know you would. But that's why you can bulk and I cannot. These are the simple truths about our lives. Just to give you a little bit of a workout update yeah no good no i was asking yesterday because this has been kind of bothering me i've like gained three pounds okay do you think it's muscle bob it depends what have you been doing what have you been eating what's the macros looking like eating a lot of pita. Okay, no. That's not good. What are the macros?

It's been like pure bread. Okay, well. Often two desserts. Okay, so that is. You're thinking about this pursuit was to lose weight? I wanted to lose like five pounds, and then I also wanted to get Timothy Oliphant's body. I got bad news for you.

Oftentimes, if you start exercising a lot, like after not exercising as much for a while, like your muscles retain more water to like recover from that. So it could be that. And also you're hungrier. Three pounds is like enough for. Yeah.

Also the bread is contributing to that. You've been eating ice cream? How about Cheez-Its? What else have you been consuming? Drinking Modellos. I think all of that sounds great, Chris. And I support you. That's great.

You actually, right before we started the pod, you were like, should I go get a Coca-Cola? I was like, that's not good. Well, I'm just tired and I wanted to give you guys my best. So far, so good.

Did you ever settle on a personal trainer? No, I haven't. Because I took off, I was out of town for a little bit. I was training myself on vacation. I think the Wagner group's available now. Like just a guy from there? Yeah, there's just an absence of leadership.

Do you think that those guys are putting up their resumes? They're on LinkedIn. So, for the last couple of years, I've been consulting. Looking for an opportunity at Gold's Gym. Starting Instagram workout pages. Could be.

Do you want to get swole? Starts with the protein. You eat goulash you come work out with me. You're a little

too good at that. I know. All those years. Double agent. Double agent. Okay. You have another pick? yeah I didn't really get to say anything

about Nancy Meyers as the holiday you were saying you were doing power rankings on Instagram yeah and then Nancy number two and then we got off on

that's it that's all I got that's all you have well it was it was directors who mean a lot to me of a certain age one thing that I thought

was really provocative about the holiday was that Nancy decided to make it 500 minutes long it is really long it is the longest movie ever made yes i so this is not my favorite nancy myers movie okay what is um probably it's complicated okay and i think obviously something's got to give is like the quote-unquote most important one he's got to give is jack jack and diane it's complicated as's got to give is Jack. Jack and Diane. It's complicated as Meryl and Alec Baldwin and Steve Martin.

I like that one. Yeah. I really like that one. Those are both great. It's also set in Santa Barbara. So some of it is like that kitchen and garden and pool area is all very important. I really love Father of the Bride. I think Baby Boom is fascinating.

I was at the bookstore the other day and there was a Sam Shepard biography with just like a beautiful picture of Sam Shepard on the cover and I just paused and took that in for a moment. What's your favorite Sam Shepard play?

I'm not that complicated like either Fool for Love Buried Child's pretty good pretty depressing probably Fool for Love. What about you? Either True West or Cur or curse of the starving class i would say but i like buried child look at us i watched a man remove all of his clothing while doing curse of the starving class in college it was

quite bracing okay yeah i was like that that is a nude boy did you put. Did you put your head on your wife's shoulder and close her eyes? I should start a Sam Shepard scorned me TikTok account. That's a good pursuit. How to navigate Sam Shepard's Uber if you have a crippling poor addiction. Did you buy the Sam Shepard book? No, I didn't. Okay. It's not an autobiography. He didn't write an autobiography no it's just biography of him that was on a it was a romans

like i can't remember it was maybe like a see it before read it before you see it thing but i don't i don't know anyway what that would be about anyway read it before you see i'm trying to think of what well it's like it's like american prometheus is he's like in that section and all the things that are being turned into movies and tv shows and they updated a lot but it could have been a different one um romance is a great job you know doing like little collections of recommendations two roman shout outs in one week just a huge huge fan of romance anyway i the holiday judelaw is very powerful in it. Invented Airbnb. That's right.

I do like Christmas movies. Kate Winslet, I didn't get her in Little Children. This sounds like it's your prestige of Nancy Meyers. It's like you like it, but it's not your favorite. Yeah. And there are a lot of people who, yes, I guess it is. And there are some people who are like the holidays. There are some people who are like the holidays are most important. I watch it every year, all these sorts of things.

I don't love the Jack Black subplot. And it takes a really long time. And he like sings a lot of movie scores. And that's tough for me personally. But I'm taking the holiday and comedy. And then in Wild Card, I think I'm really just going to go full Amanda and do Step Up. Great. Yeah. This is a good movie. This is what gave us Channing Tatum also so you're welcome to the world. Have you seen Step Up? I've seen parts of it. Let me ask you this have you seen Step Up to the Streets? I haven't.

Okay. Is Channing Tatum in Step Up is Jenna Dewan in Step Up to the Streets? I believe they both are in the sequel as well but then they don't appear in any of the future ones right? I think that's correct. Is that right? Yes. I'm gonna check that to be sure bobby are you a she's the man yes partisan yeah yeah yeah so she's the man is also this year and also features channing tatum tatum but that's a kind of a bit of a generational divide so i'm honoring him with step up instead yeah that was the first movie that uh well because that was a big Amanda show. Sure. Yeah.

Amanda Bynes show. So that was the first movie where I was like oh I got to go check out this movie because I love this person who does something else. Right. She's the man in my opinion

is this is this is the you definitely are a character in Little Children. The lesser of the generational adaptations of Twelfth Night behind just one of the guys, 80s comedy classic. That's a banger. Great film. And also Ladybugs starring Rodney Dangerfield

and the late great Jonathan Brandis. Is any movie with that action happening a twelfth night? I think they're both like inspired by. referenced by. So it's not to seem frankly so it's not to seem offensive. Okay.

And you know all three of those movies I think are seen in more complicated ways. Yes. Given the way that our ideas about gender have evolved. And just to be clear

all of these films that have been mentioned by the two of you are more cinematically accomplished than Mission Impossible 3. Right? Have you seen Ladybugs? Have you seen Step Up?

Ladybugs is a soccer movie. I know that. You haven't seen it? I don't think I ever watched Ladybugs. Speaking of Eyes Wide Shut, that's the movie where I was introduced to the great Vanessa Shaw. When did Ladybugs come out? Like 1994? Yeah, that sounds right.

A long time ago. Dude, I wasn't watching Ladybugs in 94. What were you doing? I was just hanging out? Like 1994? Yeah, that sounds right. Long time ago. Dude, I wasn't watching Ladybugs in 94. What were you doing? I was just hanging out. With whom? First of all, I was running the school of paper by that point. Running it? Okay.

Yeah. What were some of your accomplishments? Like boss tweet? What does that mean? At the school of paper, what did you? I don't remember what year it happened. Okay. So I don't want to like mischaracterize this.

But at one point, I did. I really hope you say like Darren Dalton. I did interview John Calipari when he was coaching UMass. Oh, well, this is a legendary story. And then I feel John Calipari when he was coaching UMass. Oh, well, this is a legendary story. And then, I feel like we had some hard-hitting editorials.

Okay. Yeah. Such as? What was your platform as an editor? Truth. No matter where it hides. Yeah.

Yeah. That speaks to your appreciation for Spotlight all these years later. Hard-earned. They do. So, they do. And earned. They do. So, they do.

And they let it happen. You took both of your films. I took, yes. I took The Holiday and Step Up. Yep. I have to choose

action, horror, thriller. There's one horror movie that I'm very fond of, but I'm just going to peruse my list one last time.

Let's see if you can pick Talladega Nights again. I don't have to. I already own it, so I'm not too worried about that. What else is on the board here? You know, it was... If I were Chris,

I would take Apocalypto, but I'm not a demon, so I'm not going to do that. What else? There's one fancy movie. A fancy movie? Mm-hmm. By fancy, I mean

not primarily in the English language. You're referring to Pan's Labyrinth? No. Oh, no. But something that I think could be classified as a thriller. Why don't you just tell me the name of the movie you're referring to? Why don't you guess? Or not take it?

You're not referring to the host. No. Okay. I don't know what you mean. Okay. Well, maybe we'll talk about it later. Okay. Interesting.

Maybe I'll take it to my grave that's a bold promise um i don't i don't i think i'm just gonna go with the descent which i think is not just one of the best horror movies of the year but one of the best horror movies of that decade um so good neil marshall's terrifying story of six women who go on a vacation to spelunk through a cave and encounter absolute terror. Really, truly one of the most upsetting movies of its time. I don't know if you've seen it, Amanda. It looks like maybe you haven't. No, I was trying to think about like what spelunking is. It's when you go down into a cave with your girlfriends and then your girlfriends betray you honestly

sort of yeah I mean that definitely does happen for some of that and there's a bunch of mole people down there really oh no they're very scary

yeah they're very scary and there's a lot of like pickaxe action it's it rules Descent 2 is good too honestly I don't think I've seen

the Descent 2 it's pretty good okay what is the movie you're referring to are you afraid Chris is going to take it or no I don't think I've seen The Descent 2. It's pretty good. Okay. What is the movie you're referring to? Are you afraid Chris is going to take it? No. Now I'm just thinking about spelunking and caves.

Okay. Have you spelunked? No. But are people just regularly going into caves that aren't known caves? All catacombs and caves are pretty ripe for horror because you don't have some of the underwater photography issues that you do with underwater horror, but it's atmospheric and otherworldly. So, As Above, So Below, great.

Wonderful. That's catacombs. Yeah. Those are constructed spaces. They have to rappel down in there. As Above, So Below is one of the greatest ideas for a movie I've ever heard. I wish it was a little better. Do you know about this movie?

No. It's a horror film set in heard. I wish it was a little better. Do you know about this movie? No. It's a horror film set in the Parisian catacombs. Oh, yeah. Those are extensive. And then some terrible things are happening. And it's awful. Like Satan comes out and the doorway to hell gets opened. It is loosely based on the nine circles of hell.

Okay. It's a classics major. I thought you might want to know about that. Sure. Yeah, I do. Thanks so much. I think I've got all my films I think you have one more film

I do I have wild card interesting so Talladega Night's not available currently is this a good time to talk about

how there were two 9-11 films released this year Jesus Christ I can certainly remember United 93 and World Trade Center oh right

which I saw I remembered this at the Cobble Hill movie theater. I just think it's interesting. Which of those do you prefer? United 93.

Should we talk about how United 93 is like a terrific film, but is very like just hard to talk about and celebrate. I would also say that I've been listening the Raftery pod.

The do we get to win this this time? The Raftery pod was amazing. And I was just thinking a lot about other periods of American history and military history, whatever, that have had significant cinematic coverage.

Right. But have, like, there is no lifespan for this era of filmmaking. Like, even Zero Dark Thirty has pretty much been like, we just don't talk about that anymore. And I think that's fascinating. Fahrenheit 9-11 is another interesting example of this.

A movie that was a phenomenon at the time and that people felt was really profound and then has like no cultural footprint. But United 93, when it came out,

people were like it's like the most important movie I've ever seen. It was gripping in movie theaters and people were applauding and crying. I mean, it was, from my experience, I remember peoplepping in movie theaters and people were applauding and crying. I mean, it was,

from my experience, it felt like a very big deal. I remember people applauding in the theaters during World Trade Center. I just thought it was an interesting fact that I wasn't going to pick

either of these for Wildcard. I think the other thing that I think is always interesting about World Trade Center is that people were expecting an insane Oliver Stone movie and it was actually just straight out the drama.

It's just a rescue movie. Well, for Wild Card, trying to decide who I am. I think I'm going to take Dave Chappelle's Block Party. Oh, fun.

Because it's like it's a nice little time capsule of being in New York that era. It's an awesome pick. Music is fucking incredible. Did you go to this? I did not.

I don't think I didn't go to this either. I wish I had, of course. I would remember. I did not. I was fucking incredible. Did you go to this? I did not. I don't think I didn't go to this either. I wish I had, of course. I would remember. I did not. I would have remembered. I mean,

almost every artist at that time was like my, that was like my top 10 of my favorite artists. So, I wish I was there. Yeah.

I don't think I've ever picked a concert film. Maybe, maybe Les Waltz in something like this. It's funny you mention that. We're actually, I'm scheming on

a Stop Making Sense concert episode. I saw that they were doing a screening with PTA. I know, I really want to go. But it's Arrow members only. I tried. I am not a patron level member. It's not just members only. It's the second tier of members to get into that screening.

So I'm not going either, alas. Anyway, I just, I don't often watch concert films, but this one is very like resonant just because I lived in and around Brooklyn at the time and I loved all these artists. Awesome pick. Directed by Michelle Gondry. Jeez. What a time. Cinema. Where you at on Kanye, Amanda? Keep it moving. Where are you on the movie Crank? Because that's another film I think that you and I celebrated a lot that year.

I think it's really fun. And when it felt like it was just ours, I was excited about it. And then I felt like everybody else got their hands on it. And they were like, Crank's the best movie ever. Crank 2 is even better. I'm like, I kind of got bored by that. And Neville Dean and Taylor just don't make movies anymore. That is really wild.

That's actually quite crazy. I do think that the Crank movies are the best Statham movies for me personally. I think that they use him in a hilarious way. I do think that the Crank movies are the best Statham movies for me personally. I think that they use him in a hilarious way. I like them. It was on my long list for sure. Okay. I don't know.

Do you want to talk about Honorable Mentions? Yeah, for sure. Before we recap, we definitely missed some stuff. You don't think Lives of Others counts as a thriller? I do.

I do. I do. I had it in drama. Sometimes when you get the answer you want, you're still disappointed. Yeah. Okay't i'm not sure that there's anything i could actually say to you that you would feel satisfied i could be like you're the president now in general oh yeah i would hate that um you want to talk chris have you seen the da vinci code yeah okay and angels and demons yeah

okay multiple times there we's the third one called? Do you mean the third one? Inferno. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I've seen Inferno, yeah. Have you read the books or just seen the movies? I never read the books. Okay.

You know why he's seen it because he modeled his lifestyle after Bettany's character afterwards. Opus Dei, baby. So flagellating. Also, it is a Holy Grail story. So that's, you know. Yeah, really a good film

as evidenced by the fact that many people took it here in this draft I almost did it for like pure Amanda the ending of the Da Vinci Code

book ad movie is still the funniest thing pure Amanda has really got like a wide berth like what is that seriously it's the holiday

and opus day I almost took Da Vinci Code because of pure Amanda I do you remember how it ends yeah

it's it's in the loom it's the pyramids yeah like this but she's the grail Da Vinci code because of pure Amanda? Do you remember how it ends? Yeah. It's in the loom. It's the pyramids. Yeah. But she's the grail, right? Yeah, exactly. I spoiled it. Yeah. Yawn.

Well, it would have been eligible in Blockbuster. So millions of dollars worth of people disagree with you. Are you the biggest Ron Howard fan on earth? I might be up there. Okay. I really enjoy Apollo 13. I didn't see the recent, the movie. The fan on earth? I might be up there. Okay. I really enjoy Apollo 13. I didn't see the recent the movie.

The tie cave thing? That was very good. 13 lives. That's what you said. It was a very good movie. Did you see that? You would enjoy that. I didn't see it.

Okay. I'm the second biggest Tom Hanks fan after Bill Simmons. Yeah. It's crazy. He's just been losing that debate.

He's just been getting body slammed by me up and down. It's crazy. He's like, you want to do A Few Good Men on He's just been getting body slammed by me up and down. It's crazy. He's like, you want to do a few good men on the rewatchables? I'm like,

is Tom Hanks in that? Nope. And then guys are coming up to you in the street and be like, hey, Team Hanks, am I right? Tears in their eyes.

Team Hanks. There's a lot of movies we didn't pick. A lot of movies I like. I really like Brick, Rian Johnson's first movie. Great film. This kind of like modern noir movie basically Joseph Gordon-Levitt

playing like Humphrey Bogart in high school. Smart idea. I did mention Pan's Labyrinth which was a huge sensation at the time. One of my wife's favorite movies.

You're not a Del Toro fan. I just don't care about Pan's Labyrinth. I don't care about beasts. I don't care about Pan's Labyrinth. Do you care about the Spanish Civil War and Francisco's reign?

Yeah, but there's beasts in Pan's Labyrinth, right? What do you mean by beasts? Like mythical creatures. But there are no lionesses. They are out.

There's no mythical creatures in Lioness. It's a code word. Yes on mythical grails. Yeah. No on mythical beasts. Yeah. I think I'm with you.

I'm not a Lovecraft guy. Yeah, I'm on his side. Okay, fair enough. Southland Tales. Have you guys participated in the revival of Richard Kelly's follow-up to W.I.C.O.?

I read a very long interview with him. In American Cinematography. That was a good poll. I don't know what you were talking about there where you were like, I am a subscriber

to this magazine. I have multiple issues. No, he said multiple copies. It's a great magazine. Is that where you hide your Playboys? I would always read it and be like,

this is the real shit right here. This is awesome. And then they would get into lenses. I'd be like, I don't know what these guys are talking about. So Southland Tales, you don't care about? I don't care. I like it. I think it's good.

I want to have Richard Kelly on this podcast. I really wish he would make another movie. I like The Box too. His other, his Richard Matheson film. Have you seen that? I have not. Cameron Diaz, James Marston. Oh Box too. His other, his Richard Matheson film. Have you seen that? I have not. Cameron Diaz, James Marsden. Oh yeah.

Frank Langella. Yep. Quality material. Tristram Shandy, A Cock and Bull Story. Have either of you seen this? Winter Bottom. No. This is one of the best movies of the year.

And if more people knew about it, I would have drafted it, honestly. Incredible Steve Coogan. It's kind of the trip before the trip. So you're getting, you, this is you admitting, like you draft for like, yeah. Yeah. Do you not? Well, I mean, I guess you're right. I would have taken crank and wild card

if I was just going with my... There you go. I mean, I think you want to play to both, right? You want to play to your own spirit, your own taste. Speaking of our own spirits, I was going to ask you, Pure Amanda, do you find a good year to be Pure Amanda?

There's tennis, there's wine, there's still attractive Russell Crowe. It's Ridley Scott, it's France. I tried, I rewatched it for our Ridley Scott top fives being like, this will obviously be one of my Ridley Scott top fives because tennis, Provence, you know, Russell Crowe, et cetera. And it wasn't up there.

I liked that they tried it, but I like the idea. You know, I think we should keep trying. I think everyone should just throw all those ideas in a blender once a year and we'll see what we get. Sometimes it'll work. Sometimes it won't. That's okay by me.

That's a good idea. The movie is quite boring. Yeah. Very. Do you like it? No, it's just weird that Ridley Scott made it and then since then it's just like all I do is have two armies

run into one another I can't wait for Napoleon I can't wait I can't wait for all the podcasting we're gonna do about Napoleon are you guys ready to just say

that what is it do you guys do the 30 under 30 or don't act like that no I'm trying to remember like you're fucking above it

no I'm not don't do that I'm trying to remember is it 30 or 35? It's 35, under 35. Okay. Mess Call is number one, right? The four movies he has coming up are absolutely crazy.

It's faux. Well, a little bit. It depends on the next time that we do it. And because the formula that we developed. Proprietary. Well, we share it on the podcast, but it's... It's licensed from DuPont.

Sure. It's 50% what you've done, 25% what you have coming up, 25%, you know, movie star. Are you hot? Are you hot? Yes. I mean, that basically is it.

It's a factor, yeah. So he's got half of that taken care of. All of it taken care of. Yeah, but the, you know, will Gladiator 2 have been released by the time we do the next thing? I hope so. I hope so too. That's an interesting one.

How old is Paul Muskell? How old is he? I think he's like 30. No, he's not even that. He's really got it all going, huh? 27 years old. Wow, that's insane. He is 27.

He was born two months before me wow you guys look what am i doing with my life similar thanks chris for sure um yeah foe and all of us strangers this fall yeah should be an interesting time for him what else what other movies from this year friends with money oh i love this movie i forgot about that yeah yeah it was it was on my long list that that's like a more cultured wildcard pick. Aniston, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Fran? Fran McDormand? I like Good Shepherd. Yeah. So a lot of people have been saying that The Good Shepherd has a lot in common with Oppenheimer. Yeah. That it's a very similar movie about the origin of a critical moment in America in the 20th century that features like a lot of shadowy

men in rooms talking. Given its pedigree it's kind of shocking that it's as low-key as it is and that it kind of like

went kind of under the radar. I remember being a little dull. Yeah. I remember falling asleep during it.

Did you fall asleep during the Wicker Man remake? The bees! That's also from this year. But sometimes you gotta go to the movies and have fun. You know what I mean? You do.

Not a fan of idiocracy. I like scenes from idiocracy. I don't like sit down and say like, you know what would be funny is if a jerk took over the presidency. Okay. Yeah. There's a lot of foresight there. What about the wind that shakes the barley? Love it. Ken Loach. Banger. Killian. Young. Yeah. There's a lot of foresight there. What about the wind that shakes the barley?

Love it. Ken Loach. Banger. Killian. Young Killian. So good. Deja Vu. Isn't that a

Carl. Excuse me. Tony Scott. Carl Franklin is out of time. Tony Scott. I think Tony Scott did Deja Vu.

Deja Vu. Yes. Kelly Records Old Joy. About two guys who go on a trip and realize their lives are important to each other. Have you ever been on a trip like that?

With my wife. Yeah, man. Yeah? Of course. What about The Illusionist? That's the one that's not the prestige. I know, I like that one though. Edward Norton.

Oh, yeah. In his bag as a magician. Who directed that? I want to say it's Neil Berger is that possible? it's written by our friends

Brian Koppelman and David Levine or produced by them? maybe it's produced by them I could be wrong I'm imperfect on these things Lady Vengeance Park Chan-wook's

wonderful film deeply deranged movie Tokyo Drift never seen it you've movie. Tokyo Drift. Never seen it. You've never seen Tokyo Drift? You've never seen Tokyo Drift? Interesting. That's the one I've seen.

Okay. You've seen more than one. I've seen Tokyo Drift full on. I think I saw Fast and Furious, like the first one. And then the rest of them, every time I have them on cable, I'm like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. You didn't see Fast Five. All right.

What happens in Fast Five? That's when they drag the safe through Rio. I didn't see Fast Five. All right. What happens in Fast Five? That's when they drag the safe through Rio. I didn't see it. Okay. Okay. Have you ever tried to ghost drift?

Or drift? No, just drift. Sorry. Ghost ride the whip? Is that what you're asking me about? I had a whole thing back at this era.

I think I blogged about it. About like how to invent ghost drifting. But... Meaning drifting whilst not driving. While like cruising on the car. And like running with the car. But did you ever drift a car?

What do you think? I don't know. You can do some stuff. With whom? You've known me for 20 years. You had a cool Saturn back then, didn't you? I believe I had a 19. Didn't we go to like rock the bells together or something?

And you were like. Did we? In my Saturn? You took me there in your Saturn. Honestly, it was my then girlfriend's Saturn, which was her dad's car. Okay. Are we talking about Eileen or someone else? Don't say it.

No, of course, Eileen. That was a good car. I like that Saturn. It was a pretty good car. It was like a 1996 Saturn. It lasted like 11 years. Pretty nice vehicle. I tried to drift my 1998 Mercury Sable

in the parking lot of a church after dropping a friend off who lived around the corner from there. I came within millimeters of hitting a tree. So I never tried it again. A 1998 Mercury Sable? Were you an undercover cop at this time?

Who the hell drives that car? My dad drove that car. He was an undercover cop. My parents bought it for me. It was like $500. So, you know, it served me well. It was front wheel drive.

Can't really drift a front wheel drive car, but I tried. I was 18. Half Nelson. I was just looking at it because I had confused it in my head with

Lars and the Real Girl. Ah, I had confused it in my head with Lars and the Real Girl ah I had confused it with The Believer which is like another indie movie starring Ryan Gosling

in a heartfelt performance it's really sweet it's a really good movie Half Nelson is great I really like that movie too he got nominated that is wild

yeah he's wonderful what a what a what a an unneeded comeback for him I feel like he's just now

the king of hollywood again yeah i think he's definitely going to be nominated and now he might win they they like started they released like a whole i'm just ken behind the scenes like featurette just featuring him rehearsing all of them rehearsing i mean i watched all of it i enjoyed it you were on bill maher's podcast talking about how you didn't enjoy Barbie. You want to elaborate on those thoughts? I'm not enough. Yeah. Any other thoughts?

Always a pleasure to do these with you guys. As you know, I have a hard out. So we'll distract you. Why don't you tell us about that? I'm going on Australian sports radio. What is the name of that? What are the call signs of that? I think it's like,

let me look that up for you. I mean, this will be a week old by the time this comes out. Will it be posted to the internet? Yeah. It's my guy, Kane Corns. I'm really excited.

What do you think you'll discuss? Philadelphia sports and the bear. They care about that in Australia? I think they're just like, what are your passions? Okay. Unlike the two of you.

You're like, they're just like, warm and welcoming environment. Are those, are the hosts of that show pro-Miami Vice? We'll find out. I'll ask them.

No, but they are pro-Mission Impossible 3. I bet. Bobby's here. You could have called on Bobby. I'm going to get a really angry message from JJ Abrams being like,

I thought Sean and Amanda loved me. I actually do really like JJ.J. Abrams. It's not a critic criticism. You don't have to make a big deal about it. You know.

If you were talking about the start his Star Trek film I would have been like that movie. That movie is really good. That's an awesome movie.

You guys make great movies. That movie is better looking than Mission Impossible. A hundred percent. Yes. He's a better filmmaker

by that time. Okay. That guy walks around with like my hands got big. I've made an allergic reaction. It's like in the first better filmmaker by that time. Okay. That guy walks around with like, my hands got big, I'm having allergic reactions. It's like in the first five minutes of that movie. You're making fun of the Star Trek movie?

Yeah. No, you're... Seymour Hoffman's like, I'm going to fucking put a bullet in your wife's head. What is the rabbit's foot? That's the whole point. They don't know. What is it?

It's a MacGuffin. So you don't like that. It's okay. It's like a cop-out. Yeah, but you love all the little jewels in the person's hand. Thanos is important to you. Yeah, those fucking jewels, they power you through time. Okay.

Or through physics, through space, through the quantum realms. I don't know. I don't know. I can't really defend Marvel. Yeah. I'm not defending Marvel anymore. You said you did like Ahsoka. Just to circle back.

That was what you said? Do you guys think you're more likely that you'll watch Ahsoka or Lioness? I am watching three episodes of Lioness and I will never find out what Ahsoka is about. I actually had it going on my laptop before we've been recording. Are you into it?

Yeah, it looks good. A lot of guns. A lot of grunting women. A lot of guns. Should we read our picks before Chris has to go be a celebrity to Australia? Let's read our picks. Do you want to read yours first? Sure.

In drama, I have Marie Antoinette. In comedy, I have The Holiday. In action horror thriller, I have Inside Man blockbuster, the devil wears Prada, Oscar nominee, the queen and wild card step up. Chris, did you like to go? Yeah.

Uh, let's get down here. So for drama, I got the prestige, not my favorite Nolan, but very good. Just to quote you. You don't like the comedy.

I took jackass too. Yep. Uh, action horror thriller. I took Miami vice in blockbuster. I took mission impossible 2 yep action horror thriller I took Miami Vice in Blockbuster I took Mission Impossible 3 a beautiful film

in Oscar nominee I took The Departed and in wild card I took Dave Chappelle's Block Party okay in drama I selected

Todd Field's Little Children in comedy I selected Borat in action horror thriller. I took the descent and blockbuster. I've got casino Royale in Oscar nominee.

I've got children of men and in wild card. I chose Talladega nights, the ballot of Ricky Bobby, children of men, little children. Interesting double feature. Uh, yeah,

they're both about the destruction of the soul. Yeah. Right. You know man's inhumanity to man. Am I right? Absolutely. Do you feel good

about your slate? Yeah. I do. Well I wanted Casino Royale. Yeah. You know I would have moved things around a

little bit in a perfect world but it's okay. I don't really think I had any other choice. You didn't. I think we're back. We had a good this is a good draft uh-huh pick some good movies are you trying to wrap this so you can get a get over to australia i just said have you been to australia no do you want to go i've flown on air new zealand airlines just not the same thing do you think these fine

fellows at this show would fly you out i don't know if they would pay for it but if i think if i went they would be like you know you want to come hang out that'd be really funny if they declined if you showed up at their door i was just at I went they would be like you know you want to come hang out that'd be really funny if they declined if you showed up at their door I was just at the airport they were like if you see this man and he looks like you've

getty precautions disguise kick him out of the country that's a very nice round way of concluding this episode thanks to our producer Bobby Wagner thanks Bob nice job Bob thank you

Bobby good to be back please enjoy your Labor Day weekend. I hope you guys, listeners at home, when we come back, Amanda will be returning from Europe. I will be returning from Telluride, Colorado. We're attending film festivals. We will tell you all about the films we've seen

without spoiling them and probably talk about what they mean for the Oscar race. I think it's like, this is kind of, it's Oscar time. How do you feel about that? About the Oscars? About the awards season coming along. I mean, I think Oppenheimer and Kills of the Flower Moon, it's like coming hard.

I think we got six months of that conversation coming, is what I think. You just didn't want to say the word Barbie. I just don't think it has any chance to win. I think it could be nominated for sure. Well, but that means we can still talk about it for six months. Of course, yeah. I won't not talk about it. Are you in a gender war about Barbie?

Have you been speaking with Bill Maher about this film? I actually am very excited for you to speak with Bill Simmons about Barbie. That's something I hope can happen soon. Oh, no. But he hasn't seen it. I didn't say that. That's what you said. Oh, boy.

Okay. Something to consider. That's, you know, I love Bill and I'm going to keep it that way. Okay. Thanks for listening to The Big Picture. We'll see you next week.