The Big Picture - The 2022 Movie Auction!

Episode Date: January 21, 2022

We’re auctioning off movies again, this time with a fresh slate for 2022. Chris Ryan joins Sean and Amanda to discuss the new ‘Scream’ sequel (1:00), before revisiting their 2021 draft auction results (16:00), and digging into a new round of competitive auctioneering (22:00). Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Chris Ryan Producer: Bobby Wagner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Twice a week, Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay dissect the biggest topics in Black culture, politics, and sports on their show, Higher Learning. They discuss the most important and timely conversations while also frequently inviting guests on the podcast and occasionally debating each other. Check out Higher Learning on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Sean Fennessey. I'm Amanda Dobbins. And this is The Big Picture, a conversation show about auctioning off the future. Today is the return of the movie auction on this podcast. We are auctioning off movies from what we think will be films that are released in the year 2022.

CR is here to do so. What's up, Chris? What's going on, everybody? Welcome back. 2022. CR is here to do so. What's up, Chris? What's going on, everybody? You guys have such a lovely NPR intro, but people don't know the behind-the-scenes strife impacting the big picture right now. Before we began recording, we had our typical early chat about how we're going to execute on one of our very stupid ideas. The auction was a huge hit in 2021, and so we brought it back for a reason but there have been some complications and you'll hear later in this conversation some of our complications about the rulemaking i'll just say as a very brief preview that amanda is not happy with me at all

and it seems that amanda's unborn child is also not happy with me and i'm very sorry about that but this is just how i choose to play these games amanda how are you baby's mad i'm mad happily we were all recording as I absolutely lost my shit on you. But it was just like a very, you guys will hear, very classic Sean fantasy walks into the room and very calmly mandates a set of rules that benefit him and no one else. And then just tries know mess with your mind in a rational tone being like of course this is how it is why would it be any other way and and i it should be other ways frankly and i wanted to let you know that and i did and it was uh captured loudly on tape

so yeah later in the show get ready for me getting cursed out by Amanda. And before we get into the auction, I did want to talk very briefly. And Amanda, I apologize again for you on this podcast, but CR and I saw Scream, Scream 5, the fifth installment in the Scream series. And some people were asking for us to chat about that movie. Now you haven't had a chance to see it.

It's probably for the best because this is quite a grisly film. And I know that that's not really in your interest set, but it is for Chris and I. And the new Scream movie is pretty cool. I liked it. It's directed by Matt Bettinelli, Olpin, and Tyler Gillette, who are two-thirds of Radio Silence, a horror trio directing and producing team that have been making movies in recent years. This is kind of like a big step up for them. This is kind of their big break entering the horror franchise game. This is the fifth Scream, but it's just called Scream. And that's for a pretty good reason, which is that this movie is a requel.

It is not a reboot or a sequel, but a requel, which has become quite a common phenomenon in movies of late. CR, you like this movie. What'd you like about it? I like all Scream movies. I don't know what it is. I just think that high school kids or college kids dealing with a possessed serial killer wearing a ghost face mask is just solid material. It's a great foundation from which to build your narrative house. And I enjoyed the new cast of characters. I thought that it engaged with the Scream lore in a, you know, a winky metal way, but didn't necessarily bog down the entire movie with it. I thought it had some really good performances from the newcomers so that the old hands like Neve Campbell and Courtney Cox and David Arquette were like useful, but not distracting. And I was much more invested in like what was going on with this new generation.

And it's stabby as fuck. Like they really they really get after it in this movie it's like a hard r you get get some real some real grizzly kills which I gotta be candid I'm into for the screen movies I agree I want if I'm going if I'm gonna go risk the cron in La Cunada Regal at 4pm. Don't give up our spot, Chris! I wasn't allowed to go to this one, but that's yeah, alright. Keep it on the DL, please. In a movie theater in the greater Los Angeles area. You can punch that in, Bob.

This is what I wanted from my experience. And I have some thoughts about Scream, the fifth Scream movie, Sean sean but i don't know how spoiler you want to get with this because while it is very popular it is not on streaming so folks can't see it so i don't want to give away too much yeah we find ourselves in this really weird moment what were you gonna say i'm just gonna say i read a plot summary so you guys don't have to

worry about spoiling me yeah i don't really want to spoil people because obviously like the movie scream identifies that actually what makes part of the scream franchise so fun is that they're all whodunits you know that they're all basically mystery movies and so you're kind of waiting to find out who's under the ghost face mask i don't think we should spoil it for the probably large majority of movie watchers who have not had a chance to see it despite the fact that in pretty short order it's already made 50 million dollars at the box office proving yet again that it's not just marvel that is able to succeed even in the face of a global pandemic it's not just Marvel that is able to succeed even in the face of a global pandemic. It's horror movies. Halloween Kills was available on Peacock

and it still made a truckload of money and now Scream is here and it's doing very, very well in theaters. I liked it too for the same reasons you're talking about, Chris. I will say, Amanda, I thought of us a little bit as I was watching this movie because as in all Scream movies, but specifically the first film and this one, there are long digressions about the history of movies and the way that people talk about movies. And I feel like Scream, the original was like the first movie podcast. And it kind of seems like this one is like movie podcast 2.0 because there are a number of characters kind of going back and forth about what they like about movies. I need to correct you, Sean. The first movie podcast is Clerks with them talking about Star Wars.

You're right. That's a great point. That is the OG movie pod. But Scream picked up the slack. And, you know, Scream 5, I just thought it was pretty fun. And I don't think it's the greatest horror movie I've ever seen.

I think it's like kind of a bad melodrama. And I'm not sure if that matters or not. I was trying to figure out, Chris, one of the things that's in the movie, and there have been some essays about this recently too. Amanda, I'm sure you're aware of this as a consumer of all movies, TV, and books. The trauma story is going through some analysis right now as to whether or not that's the best way to tell stories. There is a trauma story at the heart of the new Scream film. And I couldn't figure out if they were trying to satirize that trope or just using it

to tell the story. What did you think about that? So I've also been thinking about this a lot. We're referring to an essay that was in The New Yorker that a lot of people passed around. Pyro Siegel,

who's the number one literary critic right now. She rules. And it has kind of fucking ruined watching television for me temporarily where I'm watching this really excellent submarine thriller on Peacock right now called Vigil. like I'm watching this really excellent submarine thriller on

Peacock right now called Vigil and I'm just like very distracted by the trauma plot in it which is it's kind of just added on it's like there's already a nuclear submarine with a murder mystery happening I don't also need this person to be claustrophobic for like a random reason

but yeah the Scream movie the thing that i took away from it most is in addition to the trauma stuff is that on the long if you stretch out these stories long enough everything comes back around to like well you know who what character we haven't redeemed yet or explained or slightly moved into this position of maybe heroism outside of villainy is like this is happening in star wars with boba fett now. It's happening with all these different stories where if you make them go long enough, we're going to get a Merovingian movie eventually or something. So that was a notable thing. In your reading of the plot summary, Amanda,

did you get a sense of whether or not they were lampooning this idea or celebrating it? Well, the plot summary was written in a way to indicate that the whole movie is meta. So you hoped that maybe they were in on the joke as well. And then as someone who loved that essay, again, I really recommend it, and consumes basically everything you just mentioned, except for horror movies. I was kind of thinking like aren't horror movies sort of the original like trauma plot but yeah without like the character explication it's just kind of like taken for granted that this is someone's about to go through like extreme trauma and that's kind of what you're signing up for yeah exactly laurie strode is fine until halloween you know what i mean like yeah yeah ellen ripde is fine until Halloween. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ellen Ripley is fine until she goes on that ship.

Like, she's just like a lady, you know what I mean? Right. That's the thing I kept thinking about, yeah. So it would sort of seem that it's in on it just in the sense that it's like thinking about what a horror movie is. But again, I don't want to get the cron, so I haven't seen the movie. If it is a satire, it's actually brilliant. And there is a ghostly figure, not ghost face, but a ghostly figure who returns from the past of this story.

And if that's a joke, it's an amazing joke. And if it's not a joke, if it's like a serious representation of trauma, I am a little bit more skeptical of the movie, honestly, because it's a little hard to take seriously. But I enjoyed it. I think most people who are into the movie, honestly, because it's a little hard to take seriously. But I enjoyed it. I think most people who are into the Scream movies would enjoy it. It might be too meta for a certain brand of fan. I think there are some people who like Scream not as a commentary, but as just a kick-ass

stabbing horror movie. If that's your bag, maybe not the best you've ever seen, but there's a lot to recommend it. Okay, we're going to have an auction. But before we have an auction, let's talk about our 2021 auctions. Now, I will admit when we came up with this idea, we didn't necessarily know everything that we were doing. We also are in the midst of a global pandemic still.

And so release dates, being what they are, are a little bit unpredictable. We had two different episodes auctioning films off over the years. We each got five movies in each auction i'm gonna just briefly recap well actually why don't we individually recap what we got so i'll just say in the two auctions here's what i got i got top gun maverick dune matrix resurrections black widow and crime macho in the first auction and then in the second auction i got the tragedy of macbeth halloween kills soggy bottom is what it was then known as and is now understood to be liquorice pizza the harder they fall and the card counter amanda what did you get in the year two auctions all right i got the beatles get back nice one which i do think ultimately did count as a movie

i counted it on my year endless as a movie no time to die no sudden move the last duel and the french dispatch that was auction one and then auction two blonde the movie that did not come out don't look up the power of the dog king richard and west side story damn manda you picked all the bangers i kind of bodied it i gotta be honest except for like you know we can we don't need to talk about don't look up i don't want to relive the discourse, but otherwise like I had a sense. You had a great draft, which is why the future conversation that you'll shortly hear, I find to be particularly rude, but nevertheless, Chris, what did you get? Let's go through my picks. It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

In auction one, I grabbed House of Gucci, The Velvet Underground, which was my favorite movie from 2021, The Guilty, which I never actually watched, Next Goal Wins, which did not come out, and Last Night in Soho, which I thought was just okay. In the second one, This is one of the greatest draft performances ever.

In the second one, I went out and I, Joe Biden just recently talked about how he needs to get out and see the people. And he needs to look people in the eye and explain his fucking philosophy. His governing style. He could do a lot worse than to follow what I did in Auction 2. Because I got The Eternals, Escape from Spiderhead, which never came out. And I'm not actually now convinced that it is shot at all. Venom, Let There Be Carnage, Spider-Man, No Way Home, and Red, White, and Water, a Jennifer Lawrence movie, which also did not come out.

Also, can you just note that you paid $490 for Red, White, and Water? Yeah, I did some interesting math. As someone who's really putting... I just liquidated my 401k and put it in an NFT of Joel Embiid with the cool guy sunglasses coming down on his face. I haven't told my wife that yet,

so Phoebe, I'm sorry. But I've been told they're very secure but um i i played around with a couple of different philosophies in terms of like how i was going to allocate my capital and there was some debate about whether or not those were misguided efforts on my part but i'm excited to grow and i'm excited to iterate in 2022 could you quickly talk about your philosophy from the first auction which was you I did efforts on my part, but I'm excited to grow and I'm excited to iterate in 2022. Could you quickly talk about your philosophy from the first auction, which was you had four spots left

and everybody else had finished? And you split it evenly. I went Bernie, bro. I did it for you. Thank you. I gave healthcare to everybody in that pod. I was just like 150, 150, 150. Everybody, we're all just the same, man.

It's just like 150, 150, 150. Everybody. We're all just the same, man. It's just cinema. I think Amanda had the strongest showing across both auctions. I think what Chris accomplished in the second auction is one of the greatest things I've ever seen. You actually won in the vote that we posted for that run. Of course I did. Of course I did. I did hear two or three months later after you saw the film Eternals,

you annihilate that film on that podcast. And I generally don't think of you as the kind of person that annihilates movies. But it's always great when he does it because he lets Andy speak for like 20 minutes and then just comes in very quietly and he's just like, yeah, there was nothing about this that I liked. Everyone involved with this should hide it.

And he was like, I was deeply moved when Brian Tyree Henry had a catch out on the law. And I was like, this movie needs to be fucking evacuated from the library of Congress and flush down the toilet. Chris, let me ask you this. Did you,

did you see the film venom? Let there be carnage. I did. I did. What do you think? I wanted to get ready for no way home, you know, and I knew that there was going to be some connective tissues,

so to speak. Um, I thought that movie was batshit, but at least it was going for something. You know what I mean? Yeah. I guess Eternals was going for something too, but it just missed me wide left, you know? I guess I feel fine about my draft. I got like three or four of my favorite movies of the year, and then I got a bunch of stuff that I don't think turned out very well.

I'm a little bit ashamed of the Black Widow pic now that I look back upon it. I could have and should have known that that wasn't going to work out well. I was a little disappointed by the harder they fall, but then I still, I got the card counter. I got licorice pizza. I got dune. I got some good stuff. I'm not sure I'm completely right here, but I do think Chris brought Black Widow to market and then you just like bought it for a dollar more because Chris had an amazing strategy in the first auction of just dropping out of every single auction.

And only nominating David Harbour films. Yeah. That's sort of like when Steve Cohen, the billionaire investor and owner of my beloved Mets, bought a Picasso and then put his elbow through it. That's me drafting Black Widow. It's not really ideal.

So there's some complications about what we should do with the films that did not come out. What I thought we should do is any film that was not actually released but was auctioned off should be retained by the person

who was rewarded it in the previous auction. Now, I would say that that concept was not necessarily warmly received by my colleagues, or at least one of my colleagues on the pod. So you can hear what we discussed at the beginning of this conversation. Ten minutes before the beginning of this podcast. I have one wrinkle to that. Okay. Which is that I feel that the films that were auctioned off that rolled that like didn't come out.

You retain. They don't go back into the pool. Or I would just say that they have been drafted. Yes. Absolutely not. No. Why? Are you fucking kidding me?

What do you want? You're getting paralyzed. We're not being able to read that. Are you fucking kidding me what do you want you're getting paralyzed we're not being able to read that are you fucking kidding me what do you mean absolutely not everything goes back into the draft if your bill didn't come out in 2021 that was on you for not correctly reading the landscape you got screwed no why no i i literally don't understand like have you done an auction before these items are gone they're off the board have you done an auction before this is all made up but you can be penalized in the vote for not getting a movie that came out that year because no one saw it so we can't evaluate it but you then retain it and it rolls over and it's not

eligible to be drafted in the future does that not make sense so boring no is it just because you want top gun yes but also everything should go back into the pool what are you talking about i don't it seems logical to me i i i was not informed of this i think but you're rewarded for your risk that's the point like you could you could try to draft killers of the flower moon this in this in this draft but we don't know if it's coming it might not come out till 2023 but that's there's a risk reward here there's no reward by the time it's 2023 and we're like looking at the you know lists of things no one cares we have to live in the moment a bit more i just this is really i outraged. I can't believe you think that this is how this should work. I mean, it just seems like the best possible way to get content.

And I was right. Like, again, it's clearly that says, I'm so glad we pressed record. Okay. Sean, was your vision that it would roll over and you would keep it and it would occupy one of your spots for that same price. Okay, how about that? That's a compromise that you could do.

How about that as a twist that you could say... Oh, you can elect to cap. Do you have to give up the cap room for that movie? Yes, I choose to retain, but you give up

the dollars amount. Now, that actually is a really good idea. Okay. Because then I could say... And how much did I pay for that movie? You paid a lot 255 is what

you paid for maverick that was a freaking steep see that i mean so so how it would work in like an auction fantasy league is you'd have to pay a premium to keep it you know you'd have to pay an extra like 10 or 20 or whatever it actually is in fantasy leagues we could we could do it that way so that would take up part of your budget we should have waited three more weeks to do this pod so that sean could have induced labor it's on the goddamn table like like zach packed a bag i won't read those blogs zach's ready to go all right so i will i will for the sake of my cat i will put it back in the pool don't do me any fucking favors i don't want it at this point you ruined it it's fine what you have it you're being unimaginative you're being like reddit nerd person but that's fine it's okay you have actually being more imaginative by creating new rules that help

better understand the game well like if you want to keep it keep it sean i don't do you think it should count against my cap? Yes. I think it should definitely count against your cap. I mean, yes, it do. And I think you should have to pay a premium to keep it too. What would be the penalty for retaining it? Is it like 10% of the auction price? Something like that? I'll be completely honest.

When I look at the list of movies that I have in my power rankings here, I'm more excited about this batch than anything I drafted last year. Okay. But that's also because I'm a guy who likes to turn the page. You know what I mean? I'm always looking forward. Do you think we're going to have to cut this into a later part of the pod? I think so. Okay.

I mean, I'm trying to find a way to get you what you need, Amanda. It's too late. It's done. That is the most Sean the negotiator thing you've ever said. It's over. The window's closed. Trying to find a way to get you what you need. This is like when I was trying to buy my car and the guy was just sitting there in front

of the computer. He's like, if you put this much down, here's what you're going to pay per month. He's like showing me, we're actually going to lose money on this car. I'm like, you're not going to lose money on this car. Maybe I missed my calling. I should have been a used car salesman. I got to talk to my manager. I don't know.

I just don't think I can go back with this number. He has to authorize this. He'd offer this deal to you. Look, I mean, like basically like this is docking my pay if I do this. But for you, because you came here on this day. So we're looking for like an acceptable like a premium to pay to keep it yeah okay what about 100 bucks which is 10 percent of your yeah like that will influence whether i put it back in the pool too like if i don't want to be

dinged basically one third of my budget before we've even started to have one movie that I actually, I don't care about as much as you do. I don't, I'm not, I don't feel as strongly just because I want to spend my time talking about

the future of cinema. You know, because I'm not looking, I just don't, there's nothing I have on my list that I was like, man, I'll draft that again

or I want that to stay. You're not rolling over Spiderhead. No, I don't think so. I don't know, I still don't know that they shot that movie. Actually, that you're not rolling over spider head I don't know I still don't know that they shot that movie actually if you roll over spider head I'll give you 25 bucks of my own okay should we start officially sure yeah I think so okay the baby's really upset now he's moving around a lot no no he's like, Sean has made a great point.

No. And the rules of order make a lot of sense. He can hear the yelling and the agitation and he's just like kicking like crazy. All right.

Simmer down, little guy, please. Oh my God. Okay. Let's try to, let's bring some dulcet tones. Sierra, bring your posi energy. Simmer down, Michael Jack Schmidt,

Brian Dawkins, Baron Dobbins. All right. your posi energy. Simmer down, Michael, Jack, Schmidt, Brian, Dawkins, Baron, Dobbins. Alright. And now back to the podcast. Okay, so here's where we landed, which I think is reasonable, which is ultimately

if you want to retain a film that you were awarded in the auction, you may do so heading into the new year however there is a penalty for holding on to that film so in addition to for example the $255 that I spent on Top Gun Maverick which would then be taken from my

pool of $1,000 to start this year I would also have to pay a $100 tax and any film that we wanted to roll over, if CR wanted to retain Escape from Spiderhead and then write the script and go out and shoot that film, which does not exist, he would also have to pay $100 in addition to the $80 that he paid for it. On top of the Joel Embiid NFT that I would have to liquidate to fund the production of that movie. So I think that that's a reasonable takeaway. Now, in order to do that,

we would have to make those decisions right here and right now. Amanda, are you officially okay with that decision? Yes. So can I ask a question? So that means that if we carry these movies over, they are not up for any bidding, right? It's not like the bidding starts at whatever. Okay. Then they are just on your slate and they take up one of your five spots in your auction now just for the sake of good governance i i will put maverick back in the fold because i don't i don't i don't but i don't want it so i'm willing to i don't want it to take up one of my five spots see this is the thing now is that it just doesn't it's not fun because you are like but will amanda get top

gun maverick is a is a theme we can now thread through the next hour well i know that's why i said just put it in the auction in the first place but you had to make me get really angry and you know upset the next generation and now i feel like i'm just in like a little maverick being handed something you're not being handed something it's like a you know a pity auction i could get into that you know what i mean like i think the thing is also i think is really fascinating to consider like has like world events over the last eight months like changed your opinion of top gun maverick like all this unrest in ukraine like are you maybe like no disrespect to our listeners in kiev i'm actually asking like maybe you don't want to

support a movie about the military industrial complex. I don't think that's a problem for you, Amanda, right? That's not a concern. I know, yeah. But I do think that putting you to the decision of saying like, do I want this or not on my slate? Also, you know, we are almost certainly going to do another one of these in July.

The movie may not be out by then. You could get it in round two and then you could have it for- Wait, are they seriously not going to put it out in the spring? I mean, who knows? I thought it was April. Well, but part of the issue here

is that we don't really know how to navigate this landscape. When I drafted it, I thought for sure it was going to come out. And then it did not. I don't think... I wasn't necessarily sure

that Red, White, and Water was going to come out or that Escape from Spiderhead was real, but, you know. Okay. Well, so that film is back in the fray. Do do you the other films that were drafted next goal wins red white and water and escape from spider head chris those are your three that did

not get released do you want to retain them let my children go okay i mean what about blonde i'm gonna let it go as well okay in part because as you noted it still doesn't have a release date. And it's sort of living in the, is it Darkwater or Deepwater? Deepwater. Deepwater. The Adrian line. The Adrian line, Ben Affleck. Or Anna D'Armas, you know? I know.

But, you know, I'm just hoping for like an unrated version at home. Give the people what they want for both of these. Wouldn't it be great if we just woke up one Friday and they just dropped deep water without any... When we just go and watch it and then autopod? Yes. We would just dive into a 75-minute conversation about it. Okay.

So let me just recount the rules for those of you who are listening to a movie auction for the first time because the first 40 minutes of this conversation must have seemed utterly insane. Each of us gets $1,000 of imaginary money to bid on any film of our choosing, really. We each get an opportunity to put certain films up. Each film on the slate must have the expectation of a 2022 release date. And if it's not officially on the calendar, the thought is that we think this movie is coming out this year.

We each get to choose from five movies. We bidders open with a new title in snake fashion, and we're going to make it 30 seconds to make a new bid before the movie goes to the current bid holder, just to try to compress some of this. Does that seem okay to you guys? I have one question. Yes. Movies, if you've seen the movie, you can't bid on it. Yeah, I think we should avoid bidding on anything we've seen does that seem i tried to do that last time yeah are you so you can't bid on avatar too amanda yeah as you know i've you know been in the water tank just monitoring the situation but i'm gonna abstain out of respect for you guys um okay i mean i think i think that's everything and so we should choose an auction order so bob Bobby, do you want to do your magic?

Yeah, I've already spun the wheel while you guys were kind of arguing and laying out the rules. The order is Chris is going to nominate first. Amanda will nominate second. And Sean, you will nominate third. Wow. Okay.

Intense. So Chris, do you know what you're doing here? This is good. This is like when you started the first one with House of Gucci. You know, the last couple of months, I feel like one of the undercurrents of the big picture has been we're fucked movies like what's gonna happen and i want to say that i looked at the list of movies that are supposed to come out in 2022 and feel really optimistic i feel like movies

are back i love a bunch of the, like, I can't wait to see so many of these movies. I went through a list of like a hundred movies that are anticipated, most anticipated movies of this year. I was like, I want to see like 60 movies. And I, I really hope that we,

we just build back better here, you know, bring, bring all these movies to theaters. Let's get in there. Let's get, let's get boosted. Give me the cinema booster is what I'm saying.

And so let's start off with, that's a beautiful speech. That was, you also just mixed some metaphors there. I feel like who's the Joe mansion in this, in this draft, if we're going to build back better, that's what I'm concerned about.

Let's start off with one. That's probably near and dear to all three of our hearts. And let's start out with Jordan Peele's new feature, Nope, which we don't know anything about. Yeah. Yeah. Is this the movie that all three of us are most aligned and intrigued by? Well, the reason why I threw it out there is because there are a couple that might be Netflix movies or might be you know like it'll they're they're franchise movies or whatever the you know um even even if you were not the hugest fan of us i think the thing that jordan does really well is create um uh like an experience that you really want to see on the friday night

the movie comes out like you wouldn't want to you would want to see it in a room full of people in the dark not knowing anything about it i i always hope there's no trailer for this movie i hope this movie is just like it's nope elizabeth moss is in it come see it if you want you know you know what i mean yeah and so i just think that this kind of is the thing that recalls for me seeing in uh seeing us in texas with you sean i think um and and just the excitement around that and so yeah, yeah, let's open Nope. And let's start at $160. Strong opening bid. Strong pick for a film.

I'll go $200. I'll go $210. I'm going to go $250, which is an interesting number to get to because that's the top gun number. And I think that now that we've had some time to really process and digest these movies in this auction style

you start to have like okay so this went for this so maybe I can get it at around that you know what I mean we have a little bit of a little tape to study so I'm going to go $250

I'll say $275 I really really want to see this movie and I'd like to have ownership of it long term okay right because that's how this works now

that's so great they're going to be sending all of the box office back into you. We should create a sound effect that indicates when you're rolling your eyes at me on this show. And every time you roll your eyes at me, it goes. I also love that Chris is really in peacemaker mode right now. He's just like, I can feel his energy. Yeah. We got 10 seconds on the clock. I'll do 300. Okay. $300. One of the fun things about these episodes is just that they're vamp city. You know, I'll do 325.

Are you trying to interrupt my speech? No, I agree. I agree that it's vamp city, but I'm trying to be strategic this time. Okay. I'll say $333. Okay. That's one third of my budget let's do 350 now it's getting exciting i like it 350 the highest paid price for a film through all of these auctions i believe was 515 which i paid for licorice licorice how was Matrix? Matrix was $3.55, and you, of course,

got Red, White, and Water for $490. Right. Well, that was just the surplus. That's right. You've got 10 seconds, and Chris holds $3.50. $3.75.

Wow. This is a big one. I think this is number two on my list of most anticipated movies. I'll go $3.80. I'll go 380. I'll go 380. What if this movie sucks? There's that.

This is a tough thing. You know, it'll still be fun though. It'll still be an event experience. That's true. CR, where are you at on us? Well,

you know, it's another one of those movies that I think in the theater and maybe the second time I saw it, I was just like, you know, like, I just think it missed on a couple of elements of it, but has grown in my estimation since then, which I think is the testament of a movie that... I mean, what about you? Have you kind of revised any of your takes on it? Have you thought about it much since then? No, I think Amanda and I were both pretty pro when it came out, and we took a pretty sincere look at what we thought it was going for even if all the pieces didn't totally fit together

but it's the kind of movie also now like 10 seconds um i guess i'll say 385 now that i'm starting to romanticize my viewing experience of us here on the podcast i mean it's fun to have big movies that a lot of people see that you can talk about. And not in like a canon, well, this is what is supposed to happen in episode four of something. Is Dr. Stephen Strange? Right. Are those my voices? Whose voices are those? Who are you imitating?

What was your bitch on? 385. You know, you sometimes can access that voice. And then I do roll my eyes. You could sometimes access that voice. And then I do roll my eyes. You can sometimes access that voice. 400. Yes, Chris. 400.

You're getting up to red, white, and water territory here. This is tough. I mean, they got some good deals. There's a lot of value on the back end of this year. There's a ton of movies here. Just a ton. I got four pages of movies with notes. You're really trying to get nope, huh?

Just saying. I'm saying I can go big for nope and if i don't get it i'm okay if i get it i got a lot of a lot a lot of um role players coming yeah 410 i mean i'm still interested i'm gonna back out because i think you're trying to bid me up okay that's i mean i'm happy to get one of my most anticipated movies no downside for. That's a good one. So 410. So I'm now left with $590. And Amanda, you are up to bid. Yep. Top Gun Maverick, $100.

Well, this is actually fun now. Yeah. Seriously. Because we know what's going to happen. Everybody knows what's going to happen. So one could almost say that some of what you've done today was performance to intimidate us into not getting it. Who can say?

Well, I'm going to make you pay for it a little bit. So I'm going to say $200. I'm going to say $354 so that I can get at least a deal on this film if I get it. Wait, wouldn't you then be at like $ deal on this film if I get it. Okay. Wait, wouldn't you then be at like 200 left if you did that? Yeah. Sure. But I get Top Gun Maverick, which is one of the best movies.

Sure. We don't know that. We have absolutely no idea. We don't know anything because Paramount will not answer anyone's emails. They won't. Here's what I get. If I get it and Amanda chooses not to bid up on this, then I win the spite war of this podcast.

Okay. You got 10 seconds before Sean wins. There you go. Thank you, Amanda. I did not want to win the spite war. Yeah.

I just wanted to get a deal. I'm not bidding up any more on this. Chris, play the game, Chris. Come on. I'm playing. There's a lot of movies

I want. I'm not trying to be nasty about this but I do feel like I've emotionally and mentally like this has been a long walk to get TG colon M to the theaters man and like there's a lot of cool movies coming out in 2022

I know it's okay I won't be mad at you I don't I only get mad at this way I'll be mad at Sean no matter what. That's again, that's the, why I get up in the morning. But if you want to,

if you want to get frisky, it's fine. I want to keep my powder dry for some other titles. Okay. All right. I think 375 is a great deal. 375 is Bobby. How much time do we have left?

Cause I don't trust Sean. Uh, no, you're sad that time is back. All right. Imagine if I dive bombed in like Maverick, I mean, how much time do we have left? Because I don't trust Sean. No, you're set. The time is back. Sean is out. Imagine if I dive-bombed in like Maverick. You could have kept bidding me up. You both know that.

Are you Maverick or Iceman? I feel like you're Iceman. I'm really okay with that. She is definitely Iceman. Yeah. Are you more or less excited for this film than you were two full years ago? I'm more excited at this point. I just, Bobby, I want to go have fun at the movies and I want the music playing really loud.

I want to see my friend Tom Cruise. I want to see Miles Teller. I want to see Glenn Powell. I love Ed Harris in, you know, sort of flying vehicle related movie. See also Apollo 13. I just, yes, I would like to see this movie. I think I have made my position clear. This movie now needs to be a combination

of Terminator 2 Judgment Day and Fellini's Eight and a Half for it to satisfy your expectations. It's true. And I'm a little- The plot for this movie is going to be nonsense. At this point in my life, oh my God. At this point in my life,

me being able to sit in a movie theater and watch like a big budget movie with movie stars and it's really loud just sounds like christmas times 10 it could it could be dog shit and i won't care congratulations on your acquisition i'm gonna keep the cruise train rolling mission impossible 7 Let's go. I'm going to open the bidding at $145. $175. $200. $225. Remember when we just went and saw Fallout like three times in the

movie theaters? It was so fun. We were just reminiscing about this because that was a birthday movie for us. I'll say $226. Okay. $250. $275. There's a bunch of movies that are going to come out that you guys don't care about that I'm super into.

That I can hold. Yeah. I can probably even get for $1. Like what? Yeah. What am I going to say here? Multiverse of Madness? No, it's not really on the board for me right now. I am really interested in MI7. The Mission Impossible franchise has not let me down. Not since MI2 have I been let down by this franchise. I'll say 300. I am really interested in MI7. The Mission Impossible franchise has not let me down. Not since MI2

have I been let down by this franchise. I'll say 300. I'd feel great to have this movie under my belt even though it means diminution.

310. There we go. Good. CR, get on the board, buddy. Come on. I know. Get one out there. I know.

You know, we each get a blockbuster. 310. Gosh, I want to keep going. I want to keep going but I want to keep going, but I'm reluctant to let you guys box me in on a movie you don't want. But then I want to stick you with a movie

that I want and you don't want. That's also fun. Come on, Amanda, vamp with me. Play the game. I know. I'm just trying to honestly think of what to do. You know what's tough about this one is I don't know what it's about.

And now that doesn't necessarily matter that much. But like, do we have a villain yet? Like, do we know? You got about five seconds left. Curbs is back. Amanda says 315. 325. Curbs is back.

What I read is that this is Ethan Hunt's fight against cancel culture. Oh, good. Ethan Hunt is podcasting from an undisclosed location. And it's just him and Chappelle.

Ethan Hunt goes on Rogan. You have no idea what we do. Six minutes after that pod comes out, Chris would send me the YouTube link. He wouldn't have even listened to it yet. I sent Bobby the link to the Joe Rogan talks to HR McMaster pod. I couldn't believe it really happened. I didn't watch it or listen to it yet. I sent Bobby the link to the Joe Rogan talks to HR McMaster pod. I couldn't believe it really happened. I didn't watch it or listen to it. I was just like, holy shit.

It exists sort of as like a reason for Chris and I to slack each other one message at a time. The reason I, and we didn't really talk about this, HR McMaster is wearing a truly insane shirt in this podcast. Chris has 325. You have about five seconds. One final call. 330?

Amanda wants the... She wants the cruise category. You know what? I want to see you carry Tom Cruise through 2022. Okay. You can have it. Great.

Awesome. That's good. That's good. I think Amanda has probably secured victory here with the two cruise films that may not come out, frankly, because Paramount can't choose

to be risky. But apparently now I own them. But you've got them at least until next year when they may or may not go back in the pool. Okay, so I have another one,

right? Because we're going in snake fashion. Yeah. Well, let's put it back to Amanda then because this is a movie I'm really excited about.

I don't know if I'm more excited about it than Amanda. I knew you were going to do this. Do you know? I'm not sure if you know, but maybe you do know, but I'm going to say Knives Out 2,

$160. It's set in Greece. It's set in Greece. Come on, Knives Out 2? Knives Out was great. I loved it. Knives Out was also, that was the meeting of us, Amanda.

That's where we hit the center. Yeah. I mean, this is definitely on my most anticipated list. So what did you open the bidding at? $160. I'll go $200 for this. Nice.

Okay. Can I just read off the cast while you guys are thinking about your bids? Please do. Sure. Knives Out 2 is set in Greece and it stars Daniel Craig, David Bautista,

Edward Norton, Janelle Monae, Catherine Han, Leslie Odom Jr., Kate Hudson, and Ethan Hawke. Yeah. That's pretty sick. My guy, Ethan.

Ethan Hawke in Moon Knight trailer, Chris? Can we do a separate pod about that? That's a two-hour pod between me and you. 10 seconds. It's 200 for you? I'll say 210. Did you guys read that story? It was a New York Magazine story and the New York Times story about the literary world con man who is just stealing manuscripts for some unknown reason.

The spine collector? Yeah. Right. So then at some point, I believe they have someone, they have identified a suspect who looks identical to Ethan Hawke. When it showed up on Twitter, I was like, oh my God, Ethan Hawke is the spine collector? Why has Ethan Hawke been stealing manuscripts it showed up on Twitter, I was like, oh my God, Ethan Hawke is the spine collector. Why is Ethan Hawke been stealing manuscripts? But it's not him. He'd be the great star of a movie called the spine collector.

Probably a sequel to the bone collector. Yeah. Five seconds. I'll go to 50 for this. Okay. I feel like they, they will learn some lessons from the original knives out. Where's Greece on your

vacation wish list? Me? Personally? I'd love to do it. They get some fires over there in the summers now, so it's tough. It's tough to plan a trip to Greece. I have a couple of probably destinations

a little bit higher on the power rankings, but I'm very interested. Okay. You're at 250 right now, CR? Yeah. And time is running out. Five seconds. Any skepticism I have about this movie is just brushed away by this cast. What about it being on Netflix and not in movie theaters?

Well, we're going to have to chew on that one for a couple of these movies because there's a couple of really good Netflix movies on my list. Okay. I'm going to let you have it at 250. Amanda, are amanda you good with that yes i don't really have that much money left to spend so that's it on the board okay congratulations to you all right amanda you are up to bid okay this seems like a no lose situation for me so i have have $2.95 left. Okay, I'll do Killers of the Flower Moon for $100. Wow.

$200. Okay. This film is directed by Martin Scorsese. Have you heard of him? He stars Leonardo DiCaprio. And Jesse Plemons. Jesse Plemons,

who apparently is the lead. And Robert De Niro. Amongst other women. And Jason Isbell was in it. Is that true? Yeah. I love Isbell. There's a, I read that this movie is going to cost north of $300 million.

Okay. Which is a period drama. Yeah. That's bold. Apple TV Plus? I like it when people spend money on projects, you know? That's okay. It's better than when they don't.

What are we at? 200? I'll say 210. 225. I'm really interested in the cinema of Martin Scorsese. 250. 275. Was this an attempt to get...

I think this is going to be the best picture winner of 2020. Wow. Okay. Calling our shots. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Calling our shots. Yeah. Wow. Not Top Gun Maverick? I think that this is the time.

I think this is going to be the Marty, you did it again. Thank you for everything you've done for cinema. Wow. That would be fascinating. But then they would have to reward Apple. Well, Apple made the best movie of last year. 260. 275 280

300 310 325 yes Chris 325 is that where we're sitting I want it do I want to take a Chris how many Martin Scorsese movies have we done together on the rewatchables

half dozen five dozen color of money casino have we done together on the rewatchables? Half dozen. Five. Half dozen. Four or five. Color of Money, Casino, Goodfellas, Departed, the unreleased

Age of the Innocents pod. I was going to say, you guys would like to invite me for the Age of Innocents pod. Don't be worried about Age of Innocents. We did a nine-hour Edith Wharton pod

that just included... I would love to hear your thoughts on Edith Wharton you guys haven't done Wolf of Wall Street yet oh yeah you did I'm proud of you guys gotta fight for Marty

tried to draft it last year David Grand's book is absolutely incredible I can't wait this is kind of like is Scorsese making like a like a backdoor western here

like what's the vibe the start of the FBI? You've always been a big FBI guy. You've really believed in their mission, really, from day one. I mean, I'm a Hoover originalist. Chris, have you seen Being the Ricardos? No. Okay.

I didn't see it. I actually do need you to watch it so we can circle back on some of the topics at hand. Five seconds. 3.35. 3.40. You're not letting it bleed. You know, you're not letting, you're just, you're just following up,

which indicates that you want it, but maybe you're just stretching me out. Cause you know, I mean, there's a, Sean, like I got to say, man, this is, I think we're going to have, it's just going to be a hell of a year for movies. What? This is an amazing persona that you channel.

I don't know what you had for breakfast. There are 15 movies that are coming out this year. I have very little sleep. But I also, like, I was like, I wonder what this is going to be like. I looked at the list of movies and I was like, holy shit. 10 seconds. All of our guys are back.

It is like really, Sean's most anticipated list was the Letterboxd 11 for sure. Let's go, baby! 350. Awesome. I'll go to 375 yes chris i love it i love it this is what the game is this is this is tough for us chris the best picture oscar will go to tim cook do you think they'll just merge the Apple product announcement and the Academy Awards? Yeah.

Martin Scorsese's Apple Watch will buzz and that's when he'll know he won Best Picture. 10 seconds. Chris has 375. 380. Wow. I'll go four. Yes!

CR really wants it. What do you think? Are you thinking about the message board devoted to you when you're making this bid? Are you thinking about how they'll celebrate you? No. This is for me. You paid 410 for nope.

Yeah. So that's the market. You've seen Get Out. You've seen Get Out. That's the market. You're currently at 400. Yeah, do you see this fucking departed? I feel like this is going to be a stately drama.

What do you think? You think it's going to be really violent? The only thing I'm wondering is if it's like a little bit more Shutter Island than we're all ready for. But I love Shutter Island. But that's like considered like genre Marty. You know what I mean? That's like... Right.

I love genre Marty. Shit. I think Martin Scorsese has been wanting to make like a 405 crime drama set in this era for his whole career and what an incredible uh marriage of of source material and filmmaker and that's why i'll be bidding uh 430 for it did you suck out leonard malton's soul before you came on this pod what's up with this energy you said you wanted me to vamp. No, I do.

I do. I do. But your phraseology is intriguing here. You're like, I think this will be a wonderful year at the cinema. I know. I know. Which is, that's kind of, that's what I'm made fun of for. Do you know what the thing is, is that it's hard with TV, which is what I mostly talk about.

And it's like, oh, you know, I've been looking forward to Ozark for like 18 months and the whole thing is going to be up on Friday afternoon. Yeah. That's it. You know what I mean? Like, it's like oh you know i've been looking forward to ozark for like 18 months and the whole thing is going to be up on friday afternoon and yeah that's it you know what i mean like there's it's nice to anticipate things it's nice to yeah imagine a collective experience with them so you're saying tv sucks no but i'm saying i'm saying movies are back 10 seconds dobbins movies or tv movies i haven't seen like any of the show. I like I had to skip two episodes of The Watch. I haven't seen the shows. Did you start Vigil 435? What's Vigil?

The submarine show. No, you didn't tell me about this. You guys send me a text, man, because like, you know, once that I see it's a show I haven't seen. And I instructed your husband to let you know that I should

have gone directly to you. I'm sorry about that. He's he's you know, he's reading mommy blogs. I don't know what to say. What's sorry about that. He's reading mommy blogs. I don't know what to say. What's the bid at? 435 for Sean. 450.

Yes. This is not hard, man. This is a Martin Scorsese movie. We get maybe one or two more of these. Let's treasure it. Very strong case. I tell you what, every time you say one

thing you convince me I should keep going higher which means you are a brilliant auctioner I do think at some point Sean that you should start doing math 10 seconds you're okay I got two movies in my back pocket nobody else has bitten

on that I care about how do you know well we'll see we'll see yeah we will see what is it at 450 yeah you what is it at 450 yeah you can have it at 450 Marty Kundun

I loved it what if this is Kundun 2 in terms of tone temperament and pace it's a Martin Scorsese movie what are we talking about yeah

come on that sounds like some regret no it's no regret I can't I'm so psyched with the movies i got so far where are you going next spider head is it my turn to nominate something yeah i think so right sean you sort of chickened out at the end there i just want to say well i went high on nope you could have pushed him to 500 i think guys i have a very exciting movie to put up for auction great great let's talk about the new film by Noah Baumbach.

Oh my gosh. Wow. Wow. So Noah Baumbach is adapting one of the greatest novels I've ever read called White Noise by Don DeLillo. It stars Adam Driver and Greta Gerwig and co-stars, among other people, Don Cheadle and Alessandro Nivola. And, you know, it's about a professor in a small college town. And, you know,

I think that DeLillo is a complicated text to adapt. I don't think it's ever actually been done. Except for the Robert Pattinson, the novella, Metropolis, or Cosmopolis? Cosmopolis, yeah.

Cosmopolis Cosmopolis he wrote a script once called Game 6 starring Michael Keaton did you ever see that movie? no I didn't really good really interesting movie so let's open this bidding this will likely be an awards favorite let's open this at 150

just to see where we're at so I'm pumped about this movie I wonder if like anybody else cares. Is this like if you have a New York review of book subscription. You're fired up about this. And if you don't. I don't know Amanda. You think this is going to go into the culture.

In the way that say marriage story went into the culture. I think so. Because there is like a bomb back. An Adam Driver. A Greta Gerwig interest. well as the Delilo interest. So it's not just New York review of books, people like this is, it's a little broader.

You guys are all Delilo heads, Zach, obviously like a massive Delilo head. Once again, I'm surrounded, but there are other, other entry points. Um,

I don't know whether it'll be an Oscar contender just because it might be so crazy weird, but it will definitely have an online life. It's also... It's got some potential to have the biggest set pieces that Bombax ever had to do. I'll do 160. There's some pretty significant events that happen in this book,

although there's also nothing happens in this book for large stretches. Well, there's also like nothing happens in this book yeah for large stretches well there's two like supercharged themes in the airborne toxic event and also the hitler studies aspect of the story that are like both going to be pretty fiery i would say that are rich in terms of where our culture is right now when it comes to pandemic when it comes to white supremacy when it comes to white supremacy. When it comes to intellectual rigor. Study and history. And the way that those things are kind of like. Overexamined I would say.

In our culture. So it's going to be cool. What he's going to do with it regardless. Obviously he's such a great writer. I suspect his adapting will be beautiful too. I'll say 175. I mean I'm obviously really really excited about this movie. It's hard because.

I feel like Amanda. You go through this a lot. Where you've read a book and you like are either let down by, or like a little confused by certain adaptation choices. I don't, I'm not, I am the least literary fiction reader of the three of us, but this is a book that definitely struck me in my twenties.

And I have read multiple times and I can't say that about a lot of novels. So I, I'm really excited always like even in someone's like Noah Baumbach's hands you're always like uh it's uncomfortable it's also interesting because he he made a pilot for an adaptation of the corrections that was supposed to go on HBO which never saw the light of day also one of the few books I've read multiple times that it made a big impact on me in my early 20s I I'll do 180 if he's at 175. Is that right? Yeah.

I'll do 190. Okay. 190? Yeah. CR's got 300 bucks left. Amanda's got 290 bucks left. I've got 590. Yeah.

There's a couple blockbusters I bet you would, you know. Yeah. I mean, I already have a high-minded blockbuster theoretically, and nope. This is not that i don't know if 200 is an overpay on a literary adaptation on netflix that does not have a release date anyone else like to make a bid before chris gets it at 200 i think chris can take it at 200 okay i'm gonna be left with some change left over i feel like in my biddings here you guys are running out of dough. CR down to $100. He's got Knives Out 2, Killers of the Flower Moon,

and White Noise. Amanda's got Top Gun Maverick and Mission Impossible 7. She's got $290 left over. I've just got Nope from Jordan Peele, and I've got $590 left. So do I go again? I believe it's Amanda now? Oh, I didn't know if we were sneaking back around in that way. Yeah, we are. So do I go again? I believe it's a... Is it Amanda now? Or did you just...

Oh, I didn't know if we were snaking back around in that way. Yeah, we are. So that was your first bid there, Chris? Uh-huh. So then, yeah, you got one more to put out. There's only two spots left.

Let's go Maestro. All right. Okay. Explain what that is. Bradley Cooper's second film, After a Star is Born, which he will be starring in. It's a biopic of Leonard Bernstein

and it co-stars Carey Mulligan and Jeremy Strong. Let's open it at 100. Technically, Chris, you're only allowed to bid 99 because you have two slots left and only $100 left. Let's vote for the bidding at 99. Iconic moment on the podcast. One of the best things that has ever happened

just happened, which is that Chris almost bid himself out of a slot. I didn't anticipate getting this. I just thought it'd be fun to talk about. But the move for us

would have just been to sit there silently, which is what I think Amanda was getting ready to do. You still can, but you're not allowed to bid yourself out of a slot. Everybody has to have five movies.

No. You wrote them down, Sean. That's true. That's true. But Chris could have just DQ'd and had a blank space. Yeah. I didn't know that that was possible.

Yeah, we don't have that in this institution. I didn't think that we were gonna... I didn't think we were in, like, this punitive... is to find things that we didn't know were possible I didn't know this was, like,

the pod version of Spider-Head, Sean. Right? To, like, fight the death to escape. Anyone else? I't know $100 okay take it down yeah I'm a little skeptical of this movie personally I'm not what I really like Bradley

Cooper see are you haven't seen Nightmare Alley yet no will you come with me to Nightmare Alley Island one day? Because every time I bring it up, Amanda does the eye roll thing, and then we should do the ding noise sound effect. Should we do the black and white version?

Yeah, Noir Alley. This is the thing is that, Sean, you've spent the last two months being like, Bradley Cooper is so special. I know. I know. I think, you know what happened here is that Jake Gyllenhaal also was going to make a Leonard Bernstein film, and I wanted them them both to happen and then the Gyllenhaal one fell out because Cooper was like I'm the captain now so maybe that's what's I think that I just got it for

100 bucks right I think yeah I think you did great job Amanda I feel great about that can't believe you let me have that that's just like a rookie move what i just don't it's like it's not in my top 10 but you could have hit me up yeah i guess you're right why are you being so nice to me it's not fun because you think i'm like mean and trying to make you upset and i'm actually just creating reasonable rules so that we can have thoughtful and interesting podcasts and you think that there's some sort of mission you're on a mission to hurt me i love and support you all the time that's you just like you create rules and order in order to undo everyone around you no it's not true what i do is when i'm not around you all i do is sing your praises and the same is true for chris i'm like these people are the best people in my life

but when you're with us yeah yeah well Yeah, well, I love Hard. Is that a movie that's coming out this year? Okay, so now it is up to Amanda. You got a bid for one. Okay. This will be fine. So I have $190 left. Thank you, Bobby,

for doing math in real time for me. That is true support and love. Babylon, $100. I do want this movie. I100. I do want this movie. I know. I do want this movie. This is not a movie that's going to win me any Twitter polls.

So you're skeptical of our guy Brad making a movie about one of the greatest artists of the 20th century. I don't believe he likes to be called Brad. Well, I'm from Philly, so I could do what I want.

Trinking. It's going to fight him in the parking lot of the Link. I know. I's going to fight him in the parking lot of the link like this is. I know. I love A Star Is Born, but is Bradley Cooper a better filmmaker

than Damien Chazelle? No chance. I mean, smaller sample size. Yeah. You opened it at how much? $100. $100.

I'll say $125. Brad Pitt's in this movie. You know that? I'm aware. Can I start a Brad Pitt? Brad Pitt is on a roll right now. Brad Pitt's in this movie you know that I'm aware you guys heard of Brad Pitt Brad Pitt is on a roll right now Brad Pitt's about to glow up in 2022

Bullet Train yeah the fucking F1 movie that he's making I'm so fucking excited for that absolute lord he's producing the next

Bong Joon-ho movie yeah with Robert Pattinson incredible 10 seconds do you guys think Robert Pattinson? Incredible. 10 seconds. Do you guys think Robert Pattinson's maybe a little overused at this point? No.

Okay. I'll do 130. 135. No, I don't think Robert Pattinson is overused. I think he actually, you know, he had his kind of weird time, which we all enjoyed. Like, we were like, Lost City of Z, that's great, Rob. You know, good time. Like, keep shining. And now he's's back but bringing the weird with him i think it's great well put i agree really you just you know

what amanda you convinced me okay thanks i also still have not seen a trailer for the batman that's not true i watched one of them um they've all been five seconds sean has 135 140 hmm i mean you can only bid me up to 189 here, given what your pool looks like, which might be your move. That might be the best move. But I might just give it to you. And then you have to have it. This movie might not come out this year.

Well, as previously discussed, I don't really believe in it. I think it does have a Christmas release date. Christmas of 2022. Will we all be alive then? Who can say? I'll say 150. Okay.

Here's some of the other stars of this film. Not just Brad Pitt, but also Margot Robbie, Katherine Waterston, Max Minghala, Flea, Lucas Haas,

apparently Olivia Wilde and Spike Jonze are making appearances in this movie. Jean Smart coming off of her Emmys run for Hacks Spike Jones and I'll do 155 okay

did you know Margot Robbie is playing Clara Bow in this movie I think I did because I saw some paparazzi pictures with the hat and the I didn't know that she was done up I mean Sean you can either like take the movie

or don't Sean do you make a cameo in this movie as DW Griffith how dare you yeah and you're you're Kirsten cinema okay um I'll do 160 okay is it mine at 160

do you feel like I don't know i haven't decided yet that's i mean that's sort of the thing i was like you can you can make a decision for all of us or you can let me kind of do math in real time in my head and think about it i have three movies this would be my fourth 165 i'll take it at 170. Okay. I mean, trying to think through here. Chris has three movies and $100. What happens when you go to the drive-thru at McDonald's?

Like, are you able to calculate when you add up the fries and the nuggets and the soda, but you don't want to get the meal? Like, are you able to do that math in the drive-thru? No, I get the meal. I thought it was... Well, I just like the meal. When I'm going, to get the meal? Are you able to do that math in the drive-thru? No, I get the meal. I thought it was... Well, I just like the meal.

When I'm going, I get the meal. Actually, you just treated me to Chick-fil-A recently. I know, but you didn't go for the meal, which I thought was very notable. You wanted the lemonade and the sandwich. I didn't want fries. I'm just trying to keep off the dad bod. I know.

The waffle fries are so good, though. Are you worried about dad bod coming on? Yeah, I don't exercise. I'll do 175. Guys, Chick-fil-A, you got to go for the frosted coffee. Don't get the drink. Don't do any of that. I love lemonade, though.

Get the frosted coffee or the frosted lemonade. Respectfully, I grew up in Atlanta, Georgia. Please don't tell me about Chick-fil-A orders. This is the one area where I have things locked down. This pregnancy brought to you by Chick-fil-A. This pod is not, so maybe we should stop talking about fast food restaurants. 180.

I mean, we can argue over $9, or you can just have it. What's up to you? That's fine. Sure, you can have it. Okay, great. I've gotten Babylon, which I believe is the fifth

feature film from Damien Chazelle, who I think is a better filmmaker than Bradley Cooper, but maybe I'm wrong about that. Okay. Maybe Maestro will find out the opposite is true. So now I'm up. I've got two films to put up. The first film I'm going to put up is David Fincher's The Killer. Yes. Which is a forthcoming film starring Michael Fassbender. And I'd like to bid $98 for this film. So that I bid $99?

Possibly. Well, I'll do it. You'll bid $99. Now, I could in an incredible act of friendship give you this film at $99. But I don't expect you to do that for a movie that David Fincher makes about a serial killer starring Michael Fassbender, who's been just fucking driving Le Mans for four years or whatever. He's been raising his child. Just deeply staring into Alicia Vikander's eyes.

No, but he is also becoming, he is a race car driver. I thought you were going to say he is becoming a serial killer no well i just given all the f1 interests bobby you're in the f1 crew now uh no no i just i can't wake up that early like until until further notice when i'm on the east coast like maybe i'll give it a shot but i respect it as a as a entertainment proposition for the kevin clark's of the world i'm with you i have like the tennis is my international early morning sport i'm good there's always so many things you can wake up at four in the morning and like read a lot of like guardian articles about you know amanda has tennis chris you have soccer and i have a six month old screaming child we've lost the thread there's about five seconds left and the the bit is $98, right?

Or $99 with Chris. $99 to me. Yeah, I can't go with you, Chris. I'm going $100. I love you, but I can't. That's okay. It's a deal at $100. Yeah.

It's a bargain. Amanda can't bear to pay $100 for his late films. Dude, excuse me. Unless we think that David Fincher is going like, it's like a retread work. What do you mean by that? Maybe he's falling off. What? Bank was my favorite movie of 2020

and it's widely considered one of his least successful films. So no 10 seconds. I'll do 110. Okay. Now we're just in bit up territory. So yeah, I got to pay 180 for this one too. I guess I will mean, okay, you want to just cut to the chase here? Sure. That's what I'm'm saying you're welcome to do that 111 113 uh i'll pay 150 bucks for it and then i get damien chazelle jordan peel and and David Fincher in my arsenal. Okay. Congratulations on having the DGA's preferred auction list.

Yeah, that's right. That's actually the premise of this podcast. 160? Is that a question or a bid? I just, you bid 150, right? I did. So I'll do 160. When you would raise your hand and answer questions in class

when you were growing up, would you answer firmly and definitively? Yes, I would. You would. That was, yeah. No, I was just kind of a no at all. This is hard to do over Zoom. I didn't know what your bid was.

It is hard to do over Zoom. Whenever we get it back in person, we got to have somebody holding up signs and stuff with the number. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. If we when we get it back in person, I also want like like four other people in the room doing like prop bets on what we're doing. So there's like secondary a second screen experience. Get Warren Sharp and Chris Vernon in here.

So it's at 160. I'll do I'll do 170. OK, you can have it at 170. OK, great. 170. So can have it at $170. Okay, great. $170. So Sean has $20 left. Or no, how much does Sean have left?

Sean has $240 left. Sean, you really... It worked out well for you here. What are you talking about? You got kills to the fire mode. Oh, I'm excited, but I'm worried that the couple that I have here left that I'm hoping to get high value on, that you're just going to be able to bid me out on some on just true dickhead stuff, you know, aka strategy. Okay, I'm pleased to have the killer.

The next film that I'll be putting up is called Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse part 1. And I'll bid $1 for this film. And I would dare any of you to bid on it, given the way that you've treated these films in the past. I like Spider-Man content, but you can have this. $10. $10, Amanda. $10. Did you see the first one, Amanda? I did. Sean made me watch it.

It had some nice colors in it. And I liked the idea of all the Spider-Men. they got there first you know eleven dollars okay twenty dollars twenty one dollars thirty dollars thirty one dollars forty dollars forty one dollars fifty dollars fifty51. How much money do I have? $60. $61. This is incredible content.

$70. $71. I also, I really got to pee, but I don't want to miss this. I know. I'm just like, Chris, come on. You know, you can't just like sit idly by. You got to make him. No, because i thought that this

was going to be a different title that this would happen on but i i appreciate that that's happening on this one okay what's the bid right now currently 71 dollars 80 dollars 81 dollars okay i know this movie means a lot to a lot of people you know there's beauty in that and you don't have like i can't bid on animated films cardinal rule it's this is win-win for me because i'm either getting what's going to be one of the best movies of the year and a sequel to one of the best movies of the decade or amanda is proven to be a hypocrite and a liar so i can't lose but in another sense you know maybe maybe Amanda's preparing for the next few years of her life where animated films will inevitably make an incursion into her household. Wait till I start introducing this little kid.

I have this, Amanda's child will be on a rigorous two-a-day soccer practice as I prepare them for their life in Holland when they are in the IACS Academy. And I'll be coming over with King of Comedy and Dawn of the Dead double features to show every night. This kid doesn't

stand a chance. Zach earnestly was like, do we have to show the baby kid stuff? Can we just show it like the big sleep? And like big sleep was like honestly

what Zach was proposing. Amanda, do you want to go above 81? No, I don't. Weird in fourth grade. That's probably a given. Okay. $81.

Just put your lips together and blow. All right. It's my turn. I am going to have two splats left and $190. So I guess I'm just going to spend money on things that I want. So I guess you can't really hurt me. So I will do

She Said at $100. This is an adaptation of the Jodi Cantor and Megan Tuohy book about their investigation into the Harvey Weinstein scandal. It stars Carey Mulligan and Zoe Kazan. I really recommend that book if you have any interest in it.

But this is the type of movie that we all, you know, journalism, all the president's men-esque, spotlight-esque, that we all say we wish still got made. And also, I'm a Carey Mulligan stan. I'm not bidding on it, but I am anticipating it. In fact, I had a nice conversation offline with The'm not bidding on it but I am anticipating it in fact I had a nice conversation offline with the ringers Brian Curtis about how much we're looking forward to this movie yeah and how much he loves that book as well so that makes it Amanda's at 100

oh that's right because Chris sorry I actually didn't mean to show you that's okay okay great I guess she said and so what's your second one oh I don't don't. No, you go, Chris. You have two bids now. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, then I would like to nominate Bullet Train. David Leitch's action film starring Brad Pitt, Sandra Bullock. Gosh, Aaron Taylor Johnson, Brian Tyree Henry, Michael Shannon. Bad Bunny is in this film. What's your favorite Bad Bunny song?

It's hard to pick. So I'll do $35 for this. Amanda? I mean, I'm looking forward to this, but I already have Top Gun Maverick and Mission Impossible 7. Like perhaps I could cool it. So Chris, you and I saw Atomic Blonde together

one of David Leitch's films we thought it was the greatest film of all time it was pretty great and of course we both really really liked the John Wick films

that he contributed to and what was your take on Hobbs and Shaw his last film I didn't see it oh you missed that you missed that

didn't they go to space in that movie no that was in the actual like the franchise proper yeah it was fascinating anyone else want to bid no

$35 I am excited about bullet train but unfortunately I only have one slot left okay so I get bullet train for $35 this film comes out

in July yeah the bullet train nope weekend is the weekend that is the movie weekend now you've got one more Chris now we each have one slot open just to check in Chris has got 65 remaining Amanda's got 90 remaining and I've got 159 remaining so should I it it's, this is, this is where we get down to like, do I want to go with my head or my heart? Is it tough?

Whatever you take, you have to believe we don't want because we can take it. There's one that I know you don't want. And I think that I could have it. Let me just see if I can guess what it is. Is it turning red? The Pixar film? No.

Where are you at on Wakanda Forever? I think that the Michaela Cole part about it is something that I'm just really, really deeply intrigued about. It does sound like it's been a little bit of a stop-start production. And knowing Marvel's

development process or their production process, I wonder how many rewrites are happening on the fly. I'm going to go with The Northman. Oh, okay. Which is, I got to say, I'm a simple man, simple pleasures, and I think that this movie

looks fucking incredible. Robert Eggers is an amazing filmmaker, and so I will bid my remainder of my budget for this. This was, of course, one of the most anticipated movies of the year for me as well. Sure. It was my number

three. I'm not sure if I want to give it to you or not. I'm a little bit torn. There's a lot of stuff still left. You have 20 seconds to decide. Just to keep the convo going i'll say 66 dollars um and that that means that you take it oh you only have 65 dollars left yeah everyone's lot so you just bet all the all the dough well i have i have this is my fifth movie so whatever i'm bet 65 is

my ceiling but we could have had a little chit chat here if you would have won 25 bucks you know what i'm saying? Just play the game and also play the podcast. That's what I'm asking for. Well, we have been potting for like two hours. So I was just trying to cut to the chase. All right. Do you want to say it again?

Do you want me to do 50 so we can talk about Scars Burst Bottle? No, no, no. Keep this in. Yeah. No, and this has to stay. But I want you to have it though. I wanted to give it to you,

but I wanted to tell you that I- It would be okay if I did, but it's like the thing is, is that like I almost feel weird how many movies I have left. I wish we could do another auction like tomorrow. It's tough, Chris, because I am being turned into an NFT by Robert Eggers.

Like I am evacuating my corporeal form and becoming one of Robert Eggers' films, which you can then bid on in the future draft um i'm i am equally if not more pumped for the northman this is exactly the kind of movie that i've been waiting for this does leave a couple of things on the table though for for so i'll take it and that's that leaves me with some dough left over and of course that dough does not roll over so 93 that go into we're a responsible guy now you know now yeah but in general i mean i think you've you've matured you know oh well thanks for saying so so it's uh

does so do i pick because i have the problem here is that it could have worked out well if i would have let you have it and then amanda could have had what she wanted at the end and then i could have had what i wanted at the end but that's okay it It's now Amanda's turn to bid and then we'll come back to you, Chris. Right. Yeah. So I guess I'm going to go with Don't Worry Darling, which is directed by Olivia Wilde and stars Florence Pugh and Harry Styles, along with a lot of other big pick faves.

I go where Florence Pugh goes. So I guess I mean there's not a lot of drama in this Chris like I'll do $64 if you want. No I think that I'm going to let you take this because I have a couple that I'm still pretty interested in. Okay so

great I got that. I'm going to go with you got $65 to get whatever you want on the calendar you can get any movie that is coming out in the next 11 plus months and among those films includes Chippendale

Rescue Rangers which will be going directly to Disney Plus we've got another Trolls movie coming out this year maybe that he could get there's DC League of Super Pets which is a film that will be released later this year um lyle lyle crocodile the animated film that was a book right that's a nice book it's certainly what well you may become more familiar with it very soon amanda i'm gonna

go with a slightly more obscure title that very little is known about and that is the new alex garland movie men starring, starring Jesse Buckley. It's his first movie since Annihilation. And there's a bunch here that I'm interested in. I know that this is not a blockbuster. There's probably some blockbuster value out there, but I gotta be honest. I'm more excited about Men than I am Batman.

Oh, wow. No one took Batman. So that completes our slate. And there is really the issue. There are two huge movies that we did not there are several huge movies well that's true but Batman is imminent I mean that film is going to be released in six weeks it was number 10 that's another reason like I feel like that last Batman trailer I was like there's just way too much of this movie in this trailer

and like so and there's a there's a degree to which I almost feel like just give me Batman this happened last year where I think we were like you're bidding on a movie that's coming out in 12 days you know so I'm kind of like great and yeah what if it's great what if it's great honestly like I'm I'm kind of like one of my big things this year is I would love

to like really I really want to support non franchise superhero stuff so in my head I'm just like Alex Garland I want him to support non-franchise superhero stuff. So in my head, I'm just like Alex Garland, I want him to keep making feature films. So you are launching

a new pod called Out of the Ringerverse. That's right. It's only about Dondalola books. Okay, so let's just briefly recap the films that we got and wrap this up.

Interesting slate, I would say, of selections. Started out very hot and heavy and then cooled as we started to worry about our funds long term. Here are my five.

I got Jordan Peele's Nope. I got that for $410. I got Damien Chazelle's Babylon for $180. David Fincher's The Killer for $170. Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse Part 1 for $81.

And Robert Eggers' The Northmen for $66. Amanda, what movies did you get? Happily, after much controversy, I got Top Gun Maverick for $375. Would have paid just a lot more than that, just so everybody knows. I got Mission Impossible 7 because this is the year of Tom Cruise again for me. Apparently I got Bradley Cooper's Maestro. I got, she said the adaptation of the journalism book and I got Olivia Wilde's don't worry, darling. CR what'd you get man? I got, uh, knives out to the Ryan Johnson sequel to the beloved mystery from a couple of years ago, which is going to be set in Greece. Uh, I got Martin Scorsese's killersers of the Flower Moon, his adaptation of David Grand's

stunning nonfiction book. White Noise, Noah Baumbach's adaptation of Don DeLillo's 2005 novel. I can't remember when it came out. No, it came out in college. But anyway. 80s, I think.

80s. Bullet Train, David Leitch's action film starring Brad Pitt and men, Alex Garland's mysterious follow up to Annihilation. Sierra, you feel good? I do. It's weird to have this many blockbusters still sitting there.

So Avatar 2 went undrafted. As did Black Panther 2. Black Panther 2 undrafted. Now we're going to do this again. Yeah. Doctor Strange went undrafted. Thor went undrafted. Creed 3're going to do this again. Yeah. Doctor Strange went undrafted. Thor went undrafted. Creed 3. Oh yeah. Thor.

Thor. Love and Thunder. A lot of famous people in that. They were having a good time in Australia. Minions colon The Rise of Gru. That film's still in the book. Minions. There's also in terms of big filmmakers there was a Ridley Scott movie that we did not pick. There's a

Steven Spielberg movie. They changed their names to Napoleon, actually. Did you see that? Oh, did they? Yeah. Oh, interesting. That makes sense

from a marketing perspective. Yeah, The Fablemans, undrafted here. And Asteroid City, the Wes Anderson movie set in Spain. Very much looking forward to that. Gosh, there's a lot here.

You know, the conclusion of the Halloween trilogy, Halloween ends, Canterbury Glass, David O. Russell's new film. Your dad, James Gray. Ugh, Armageddon Time.

Probably get that on the next draft. Mario? Mario Ari Aster? What about, oh, I know, Disappointment Boulevard. People were mad at me for not putting Disappointment Boulevard on my most anticipated list. I'd like to apologize to everyone

who is anticipating that movie because I am too. Joaquin Phoenix is the star of that movie. What about the Super Mario movie? Chris Pratt. Chris Pratt voicing Mario.

And Claire Denis directed that, right? Yeah. It's actually a sequel to Bo Travai. Okay. Well, I think that does it.

I'm proud of us. And this was, frankly, a very angry episode of this show, which is perhaps that's appropriate. I think everybody got good movies. Yeah, I agree.

Although we've not seen any of these movies, so how the hell would we know the answer to that? But nevertheless, this has been one auction. We'll probably auction again. They modeled the Northmen off of my physique, though. Did you know that? Yeah, that's when you were swimming. That's what I look like now?

In your swimming days when you were- No, it's just, that's actually, I've been doing some calisthenics how you were an onset advisor there so when you were training scars guard what what was the man's head

off you go from the back of the neck forward extremely strong tip you know if you want to continue to get incredible insights like this please listen to the watch podcast that's

where you can find Chris Ryan and sometimes here on the big picture and elsewhere on the ringer podcast network amanda and i will be back next week at some point i'm also going to be back because it's sundance time and um i'm going to watch some sundance movies but before i do that i think adam naman and i are going to talk about 1992 at sundance which was a watershed year that was the year of reservoir dogs so we'll we'll pay a little tribute to Reservoir Dogs. Is there a Criterion Channel collection right now for that class? There certainly is.

Reservoir Dogs is actually not available there, but almost every other big film that came out at that time is available. A lot of really good ones. I just rewatched In the Soup last night, Alexander Rockwell's debut, which is a very cool movie. So if you're interested in that,

please tune in. And otherwise, we'll see you soon.