The Big Picture - The 2024 Movie Auction: Chapter Two
Episode Date: July 1, 2024Sean and Amanda are joined by Chris Ryan for part two of the 2024 movie auction. They nominate 15 films they’re excited for—including some important movies out of Cannes, an M. Night Shyamalan thr...iller, a Brad Pitt and George Clooney reunion, and more—and bid on who will get each movie on their team. To watch episodes of ‘The Big Picture,’ head to https://www.youtube.com/@RingerMovies. Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Chris Ryan Senior Producer: Bobby Wagner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I'm Sean Fennessey.
I'm Amanda Dobbins.
And this is the Big Picture, a conversation show about auctioning.
It's the midway point of the year.
Every year at this time, Chris Ryan comes in and we auction for movies once again.
Now, earlier this year, we got some exciting properties, some that we're still holding on to or hoping appreciate over time. Chris, I know you spent several hours yesterday researching the remaining slate of 2024. How are
you feeling? The commercial real estate market has taken a downturn and it turns out I'm overexposed
on office buildings. So we'll see what we can do here. We going to try and scrounge I'm looking for you know
if anybody wants to buy into a piece
of CRLLC
and just kind of like liquidate it
what other businesses operate inside of that LLC?
are we invested in Zin?
what else is in the market?
that also
took a bit of a bath on that
yeah
no I think
I like to do
my own research
on these things.
Partially, actually,
because
it's never led me astray
in the past
in my life,
but also because
I find it fun.
I think that there's something
kind of educational
about writing
all the movies down.
I do this for the drafts
even though
you wouldn't think.
In this metaphor
of doing your own research,
am I the Fauci
in your experience
that you are working against?
You're Daryl AstraZeneca.
I'm trying to give you knowledge and information.
Yeah, but I like to think that you and I,
while approaching things differently,
have an equal amount of like kind of passion
for our subject.
And I just like to like go through the usual.
So what did your own research
you know reveal to you broadly yeah no I know it's coming out in the second half of the year
yeah Amanda very helpfully stated before we started recording I need to look at what movies
are coming out in 2024 which is not an ideal setup I just wanted to have the list just a reminder
yeah okay you have a good sense of what you want This is not like a draft where you have to have,
I mean, you do ultimately have to get five movies instead of six,
but there's like more negotiating.
So I don't have to have like 18 movies ready to introduce.
You know, I can surf it a bit more.
Especially since all the movies are gone.
Well, I prepared more for this one because a lot of the movies are gone.
I mean, maybe it would be helpful to remind listeners how we did last time when we did this in january so they can get a sense and
we can talk through what we picked and didn't pick and then we'll walk through the rules okay
of how we do an auction if you've never listened to an auction episode before so we did auction
with our one thousand dollars five movies each i got three two movies that have been released
two that are still to come one that is not coming out this year. Alas.
My movies are
Hitman.
I feel very good about that.
Mickey 17
which I got for $3
which was nice.
Not feeling very good about that auctioning.
Furiosa Mad Max Saga.
Some regrets.
Did it make $100 million?
It did not.
Domestic?
It did not.
Wow.
It did not.
In fact, I think it only made like $75 million.
Fall Guy is in the 90s, right? I want to say 80s. But that also did not crack In fact, I think it only made like $75 million. Fall Guy is in the 90s, right?
I want to say 80s, but that also did not crack, $100 million.
My other two movies are yet to be released, but they are slated for this year.
Megalopolis and Nosferatu.
Amanda, what movies did you get?
Hold on.
I think Fall Guy.
I was just Googling Fall Guy at box office because when you slander Fall Guy, I have to come to the rescue.
You're right.
90 domestic, 81 international.
So not yet.
Mine, Challengers.
I feel pretty great about that.
And I also got the bike riders, which I feel great about.
And it turns out that I drafted Maxine, which I'm seeing tonight and I feel amazing about.
That's for all my film Twitter people.
I have Blitz, which is dated.
It's coming out in November.
It is.
It's debuting
it's opening the london film festival a weird one bit of a weird choice you know what
why not telluride why not berlin
it's not funny that's not funny at all i know know. It's not funny. And then I have Twisters,
which I just feel like fucking sick about.
Shot on film.
Did you know that?
Twisters?
Yeah.
It was beautiful.
We did get a chance to see Twisters,
which we'll talk about.
We did.
Yeah, I don't know whether I'm embargoed yet.
And I still don't know whether podcasting counts as social reaction versus, you know,
they've never clarified it.
You should talk about Twisters like it's a great question. I don't know. They've never clarified it, but...
You should talk about Twisters
like it's a Malick movie.
You know, like...
Don't get fired.
Don't break your embargo, man.
It's really serious stuff.
Chris, why don't you recap
the films that you got?
You know what?
I did pretty well.
Yeah, this is the thing.
I got Dune Part 2 for $243.
I drafted We Live in Time
for $375.
And this is Florence Pugh and Andrew Garfield, John Crowley romance.
But is coming out.
It is coming out this year.
And is actually pretty high up there in some best picture odds conversations.
Okay.
Those people haven't seen the movie yet.
Have you?
I haven't.
Okay.
Well, yeah.
Okay.
I don't know.
Again, I don't want to get in trouble
it's coming out though
it is coming out
it's coming out
and I like
and I like both those people
Gladiator 2
I mean
this is very exciting
um
and I feel
so good about it
and Ridley is
Ridley is
Ridley fandom
can be a tough beat sometimes
you can get really really
over your skis with Ridley.
And then it's like, oh, did he finish this movie?
You know, this looks real.
This looks good.
On the day we are recording,
the new images premiered in Vanity Fair magazine.
And so we see Paul Meskel, we see Denzel Washington.
Holding the dirt.
We see Joseph Quinn.
We see all of the stars of this movie.
You know, I'm ready. He's booked. Is this the most anticipated all of the stars of this movie. You know, I'm ready.
He's booked.
Is this the most anticipated movie of the rest of the year?
I feel like it might be.
Yeah.
And also, it does not have a lot of competition in terms of like, when it's coming out, it has runway to be a big hit, right?
Right.
But is it also Moana 2 coming out?
Yes.
I think there are two different audiences.
And then also Wicked Part 1.
I think those are
Wicked Part 1 and Moana 2
are the family contenders.
And Gladiator 2 is for
sad, single, 52-year-old men.
Those three movies are really
inside of you live three wolves.
It's going to be a really
interesting November
here on the podcast.
Let me tell you,
I've also got a Robert Zemeckis film
about the passage of time
happening in November,
so it's going to be
a hell of a month for me.
What did you think of
Greenwald's take
on the Here trailer?
Deplorable.
I mean, shame on him.
Honestly.
I mean, I love Andrew
but I have no idea
what the fuck he's talking about.
Why don't we let artists
make good choices?
Okay.
How about that?
Well, good being
the operative word there
but that's another...
What would you rather do?
Would you rather another
Deadpool and Wolverine?
Honestly.
No.
Think about it that way.
That's true.
I mean, I would rather, like, another Sofia Coppola movie and another, you know, like,
a lot of other things.
That's not a way to frame it.
She just made a movie last year.
So what I'm hearing from you, respectfully, is you think that directors should have absolute
immunity, so to speak.
That isn't what I said.
I said they should be able to try new things.
This is a new framework for a movie idea
yeah
it could be a disaster
and if it's a disaster
I'll say so
just like when I thought
Oppenheimer could be a disaster
and I came on
and I was like
well turns out
that movie's a masterpiece
like it's okay
but I think to judge
a movie based on its trailer
and be like
this is a horrible idea
in what world
is that criticism
I wasn't trying to get Andy
run over by the bus
I was just
I thought
I think you were
you just set him right up
I was thinking about you
when he was talking. I just
thought a lot about what's the Charlie
Kaufman movie
that... I'm thinking of ending things. That
cuts to directed by
Robert Zemeckis like three times.
I'm thinking of that. That was a great joke.
I know. I'm just like, I don't know if Robert
Zemeckis can actually release a movie after
that. I'm a hardcore Zemeckis defender.
He's made like one movie in the last 15 years that I liked.
Yeah.
It's very possible that that movie's a car crash.
No, Beowulf is longer.
No, Flight.
Flight's very good.
Flight's great.
I also drafted Speak No Evil, the remake of our beloved Scandinavian horror film.
And that one stars Scoot McNary and James McAvoy.
For one buck.
Yeah.
That's a good deal.
And I got Horizon
and American Saga Part 1
for a dollar.
Also for one dollar.
Yeah.
Which is roughly
its box office gross
coming out of the weekend.
Hey.
Times 11 million, man.
Hey.
Yeah.
I liked it.
Also, it doesn't,
Kevin Costner doesn't believe
in opening weekends.
Oh.
Did he say that out loud?
Okay.
Yeah, he was like,
my films have legs. And that also my fans buy DVD weekends. Oh. Did he say that out loud? Okay. Yeah, he was like, my films have likes.
And also, my fans buy DVDs.
Yeah.
He's right.
He's right.
Keep talking, Kevin.
I need it on 4K.
I hadn't thought about what part two, six weeks later, would mean in terms of Kevin
Costner just talking in public for another six weeks.
Do you think he's going to start doing it?
And maybe no one around him
thought about that either.
I'm enjoying it.
The banana shake thing.
I was into it.
You know, his Green Mountain coffee sales.
I'm for it.
Just keep getting out there, man.
I love it when a guy's like,
I'm 69 and I'm talking a lot.
I will not stop talking.
Do you think we should give
Kevin Costner a pod?
Oh my God.
Is that the best idea we've ever had between Grantland and the ringer?
What would it be about?
Anything he wants.
Third chair on JMO?
It's not a bad idea.
Gretchen Whitmer.
What do you think he's thinking about the debate right now?
Oh no.
I think he's super into Whitmer.
And you think he thinks Joe should step aside?
I don't even know if it's gotten that far.
Amanda, let me ask you this.
Should Joe Biden step aside?
Has Costner given any money to RFK Jr.?
I don't believe so.
It's actually not too late.
You think that's opposite?
He was a Pete Buttigieg guy.
Yeah, he was.
Costner was?
He was also like a Chris Jack Kemp guy.
Like his political spectrum,
it changes every four years, his positions.
Should Sleep step aside?
What would you do if Kevin Costner was like,
I need America to help me fund Horizon Part 3,
but I can promise you that Gretchen Whitmer will be my love interest in this film.
How much money would you give?
You wrong-footed me there.
I thought you were going
one direction.
Can she act?
Is she a better actor
than Sienna Miller?
That's really the question.
No way!
That's so rude.
So all of these films now
are back in the pool, right?
No.
The films that have not been released?
Oh, they're taken off?
No, they're not back in the pool.
I asked you to read them
because you retain three films that have not been released. We Live in're taking off? No, they're not back in the pool. I asked you to read them because you retain three films
that have not been released.
We Live in Time, Gladiator 2,
and Speak No Evil.
Amanda retains Maxine, Blitz, and Twisters.
And I retain Megalopolis and No Spot 2.
We're still each drafting five new movies, right?
Correct, we're still drafting five new movies.
Now, very quickly,
so we each get $1,000 to bid.
Each film on our slate
must have a 2024 release date
or an almost certain expectation of release in this calendar year i'd like to discuss this a
little bit with you because there's a couple movies that are undated and i'm a little confused
about the slate must total five movies from that thousand dollars bidders open with each new title
and we go in a snake fashion you've got 30 seconds or whatever vamp time we decide on to make a new
bid before the movie goes to the current bid holder.
Movies that were previously auctioned off,
that doesn't apply here.
One thing that we did do is we added category triggers
at the last auction,
which I think was kind of an interesting idea.
We're all kind of in a tricky spot with category triggers,
so I'm going to read through them for you.
So one, at least two of your films,
at least two of your...
What?
Sorry, I was just setting up the exposition that's good actually it's good podcast thank you at least two of your films must gross 100 million dollars domestically
oh i remembered see i already asked about that so for example neither amanda nor i have any movies
that have done that yet you chris you have d Part 2 which did do that. I don't think Horizon
is going to get there.
I think Gladiator 2
will.
I think you're likely
right although I
certainly would have
guessed that Furiosa
would have.
That's a good point.
And that happened.
So you never know what
can happen in that
respect.
I will say I do think
that the people in
Gladiator 2 are way
more famous.
And Gladiator is actually a bigger movie than Fury Road. I don't think that they're way more famous. I think Gladiators who are way more famous. And Gladiator is actually a bigger movie
than Fury Road.
I don't think
that they're way more famous.
I think Gladiator
is a bigger movie
than Fury Road.
You don't think
Paul Meskel
and Denzel Washington
Paul Meskel is not more famous
than Chris Hemsworth.
Denzel Washington?
Denzel Washington is wearing
a fake nose in this movie.
Denzel Washington is playing
a supporting part.
Chris Hemsworth is way more famous
than Paul Meskel.
And the Gladiator,
respectfully.
Or Gladiator is way more I'm very excited about Gladiator 2 and Denzel's great. The movie will be sold than Paul Mescal. And The Gladiator, respectfully. Or Gladiator is way more...
I'm very excited about Gladiator 2
and Denzel's great.
The movie will be sold on Paul Mescal
just as Furiosa was sold on
Anya Taylor-Joy and Chris Hemsworth.
I think it's not just a question of fame.
I think it's a question of like,
do people want another Gladiator movie?
Who else is in Gladiator 2?
Is box office superstar Joseph Quinn.
Yeah, Quiet Place Day One.
Did you see it?
I'm going to see it this week.
Oh, that's great. Okay, other triggers Place, day one. Did you see it? I'm going to see it this week. Oh,
that's great.
Okay,
other triggers.
At least one film
must receive at least
two Oscar nominations.
At least one of your films
must hit an 85
meta score
on Metacritic.
This was kind of a crazy one
because very few films
score an 85.
I don't think any of us
have qualified for this one yet.
not do it?
Dune did not.
Dune didn't get 85
on Metacritic?
Metacritic is a very harsh judge.
A very harsh mistress.
And no more than two sequels
on your slate.
Challengers is 82.
I was pretty close.
Yeah.
What is,
where is Dune Part 2 right now?
Is it at 80?
Let me Google.
79 for Dune Part 2.
79.
Okay.
So,
these last two are tricky, right?
Because
I've got a sequel
on my list
Chris has
two sequels
on his list
so Chris cannot draft
any sequels
very notable
that sucks
and I can't release
anything to trade
I can't trade
I can't do anything
like that
no
now the question
here is that
so you have Maxine
that's a sequel
is Twister's a sequel
well
I think it is I mean well I honestly don't I don't have a strong So you have Maxine, that's a sequel. Is Twisters a sequel? Well...
I think it is.
I mean...
Well, I honestly don't.
I don't have a strong feeling either way.
Is there connective tissue?
One piece.
One very small piece.
Okay, if Twisters is on, I think Romulus should be on.
As a sequel?
It is a sequel.
I know, but I think Romulus should get that same consideration, right?
What do you mean? I mean, isn't Twisters just Twister 2, but I think Romulus should get that same consideration, right? What do you mean?
I mean, isn't Twisters just Twister 2, but like with different characters?
It's got Twister in its title.
Well, I mean, I think tornadoes are naturally occurring on this earth as opposed to Xenomorphs.
I mean, it is.
Are we sure Twisters are real?
Is that your take?
You're very hot today.
You've become very strong.
I appreciate it.
I think it's probably a sequel.
I mean, it's of a franchise.
So then neither of you can draft a sequel.
Well, okay.
I can only draft one.
But I can draft Wicked Part 1, right?
Yes, you can.
You can draft the beginning of a franchise.
That's great.
You know, that's really all I need.
Should we choose the auction order?
Did you want to vamp about anything?
Is there any other
yeah no you're supposed to ask me how i'm feeling about the rest of 2024 so i can do my thing
oh of course yeah well i didn't i didn't know if i was supposed to set that up or not well you were
at least supposed to be like what is your strategy to be honest with you yeah first of all i care
about you very much second of all i was thinking about this in the shower i literally was like
what am i gonna do here you've been so stressed out about violating HIPAA for like
six months. Hey everyone, I'm pregnant again. In case you didn't guess from the 40X experiment.
It's good. It was on purpose. And that is why I could not, I told Zach that I was going to
share this news today. And he was like, okay, but can you make it sound like a good thing? Because it is a good thing.
Instead of being like, and that's why I had to sit on the floor during Fall Guy.
But that is why I had to sit on the floor during Fall Guy.
Because it is not advised for pregnant people.
Maybe everybody should have watched Fall Guy sitting on the floor.
Which I learned.
Did you?
No, but it should have been like, you know, like the way John Lennon watched 2001.
You know, like in a temple.
Anyway, so for the purpose of this draft, I'm bringing a unique energy,
which is just like full senioritis because I'm going to be taking some time off
in the second half of this year.
I got to hand it to this baby on timing because things get really thin.
And my attitude is a little bit like, good luck, buddy.
You know, I'll see you in 2025.
Not to your baby.
That's my attitude towards our baby.
I mean, yeah, that's a little bit of that too for Q4.
Congratulations.
Thank you so much.
You guys have both been,
everyone here has been very supportive.
Do you have a moment in the future
that you are already crestfallen to miss on this podcast.
Well, I think I might just try to bully myself in.
Okay.
For, you know, Gladiator 2 I'm pretty excited about.
And that's like, you know, I hope I'll get to see it in theaters.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think.
It's going to be tough when Chris and I are absolutely cooking on that episode.
I know.
I'm sorry my phone was on silent.
I missed it.
Sorry, Amanda.
And the other thing that Zach pointed out, he was like, you can say that you're, like, going to be checked out.
But I listened to every minute of the big picture and the watch and rewatchables on leave.
Like, that's all I had to do was, like, sit at home.
I'll tell Annie that we need to step it up and stop talking about shows that you don't like. If you don't cover every episode of
and just like that season four or whatever,
or whatever season it is,
just call me.
I'll send you voice memos.
Okay.
3 a.m. voice memos and man reviews
and just like that.
Did you see Logan Marshall Green
is going to be in and just like that?
Is that true?
Yeah.
What's he been up to?
I don't know.
I had so much stock in him, though.
Speaking of Alien sequels, yeah.
Man.
He had it.
Do you think that I...
If I got to make a movie
and I immediately was just like,
I'm casting Logan Marshall Green
and Boyd Holbrook,
do you think that that would improve
its chances of distribution?
No.
I think it would...
It would confirm straight to VOD uh i like those those are the
two stars of your movie yeah no i don't think one is a cop and one is a bank robber and it's in los
angeles well that could work okay um so do you feel like well how what this is important yeah
yeah what are you gonna do like how are you keep up? Because you're now fully big picture filled.
You're like, I see everything.
You're fucking seeing that scene.
No, no, no, I know.
You know what I mean?
You are in the machine now.
So the main thing is that I know that we are supposed to be rooting for theater.
I do root for theaters.
I'm like, what the fuck was that?
I'm just like.
You're fully big picture filled.
I will not be returning to movie theaters. No, but I'm just like you're fully big picture filled i will not be returning to movie theaters
no but one woman goes on parental leave and she kills theaters in the process just where 17 days
later release windows are great for me yeah you know because like the big issue will be getting
to the theater like in a in a timely manner right um because I can call and yell at you about stuff anytime.
So I will try to keep things up at home.
Sorry, my phone was on silent.
Sorry, my phone was on silent.
My bad.
It's fine.
I know Bobby's number too.
I try to catch up as I can.
And then, you know, I hope to be back sometime next year.
All things, you know, if it goes well, which i hope it does uh and we like do awards
season you'd like do all the movies again yes so maybe that's an upside for you and for the show
do them with you the second time around that will that actually will be fun is we won't feel like
we're repeating ourselves as we have the last few years where we're like and here is another
discussion about anatomy of a fall and here is another discussion about anatomy of a fall.
And here is another,
and poor things,
of course,
which you would never come through on because you simply would not see the
film.
So I could never have an interesting conversation about it.
The big question is like,
will I ever see Wicked?
Why not?
Well,
I,
I,
there are many people looking forward to it and I respectfully am not one of
them.
Oh,
okay.
And like last time I gave myself a pass on a couple
things where I was just like, well, you know what?
That moment has passed. Now the
moment of Wicked is not going to pass. Oh, your last
Craven the Hunter.
You probably won't see that. Will I ever see
Craven the Hunter? I think given how
Madame Web and Morbius
shook out, skippable for
you, I would say. The idea
of me doing a Craven the Hunter episode by myself in the dark days of December, pretty
grim.
Okay, so first of all, for my purposes, I think maybe I should just have an open call.
This should be like the MTV VJ contest, you know, where we're picking strangers off the
street.
No, Chris, you're invited as often as you like.
There are certain cultural forces.
You travel during the holidays, you know?
Oh, yeah, it's true.
Yeah.
Also, like, you know, you are usually game to go to screenings,
but not at the clip that Amanda goes to screenings.
Yeah, I think that's fair.
Any movie you would like to participate on, you're welcome.
And obviously, we have a vast array of talented podcasters.
I also just, if there are... But I want to find my Joe Beningo. Any movie you would like to participate on, you're welcome. And obviously we have a vast array of talented podcasters here at The Rain.
I also just, if there are...
But I want to find my Joe Beningo.
Yeah.
WFAN, when I was a kid, had a contest for a radio call-in host to do the overnights.
And Joe Beningo won.
Joe Beningo, one of the most tortured Jets fans in history.
And that is the voice that I listened to that I think probably kind of like materialized
my angst
and he was just some guy
off the street.
I don't even know
was he working construction
or something
and he turned out to be
a great radio host.
Okay.
So who's the Joe Benigno?
Catch a rising star.
Who's fourth chair
of the big picture?
You know?
That's what we're thinking about.
Wow.
Step right up.
Always iterating.
Yeah.
That's beautiful.
Is it Gretchen Whitmer?
Yeah.
Is it Gavin Newsom?
I mean that's the other thing. It's just like I will not be listening to JMO and and that is we're gonna
be potting right through it I know yeah and that is election night I'm just looking I'm looking for
peace we're actually Chris and I are going nightly every night from 6 to 12 yeah uh live
on on YouTube yeah and the feedback so far has been good. Talk to a girl live from outside of Maricopa County Courthouse.
I just saw she was already booked on a podcast and it was pitched as like exclusive first interview.
Which, you know, good get.
Good booking.
Okay.
But you do know about that one.
Of course.
Yeah.
All right.
I do know about that one.
That one took over social media.
Okay.
Good.
That wasn't the same as like the whales or whatever is going on with them.
But there's shit in the sand.
No, that's like a classic.
Are you going to watch the Olympics?
I think so.
I think so.
I think Alice will be interested.
I think we'll be able
to narrativize that to her.
Oh, that's cool.
So I think that would be fun.
But I've lost interest
over the years in the Olympics.
You have not.
You love the Olympics.
I mean, it's just one of those things
where it's like suddenly they're on
and you're like, oh, yay.
Yeah.
I'll, you know, I'll get invested'll get invested yeah a little bit what's your favorite non-basketball event track track what about you gymnastics gymnastics come on what about swimming
carrie strug generation and i love swimming too yeah um it's gonna be an interesting fall
i'm very happy for you thank you very happy you. Congratulations. You guys have known for a very long time and put up with a lot.
So I appreciate you.
It's going to be a struggle here on the pod.
No, it'll be fine.
We'll pre-record some stuff.
If any publicist listening, if you have a festival film, I'm available to see it this summer.
I can't go to Venice.
This is like the real tragedy is that like I'm not going
to Venice because I can't
I'm no longer allowed to
travel internationally.
I'm going to play this part
for this kid when he's like
13 years old.
Sorry dude.
Your mom couldn't go to Venice.
It's a tragedy.
This kid is going to have
a wraparound vision bro
and he's going to be playing
Call of Duty 74
invading the moon.
You're going to be holding his hand the whole time.
Coaching him.
Keep going.
Keep going.
No, yeah.
Yeah, that's going to be interesting.
But yeah, I, you know, if the movie's done, I will watch it.
Show it to you.
Yeah.
You're ready to see it.
Rough cut.
Temp effects.
You're ready to see it.
Sure, why not?
You know, we can prep yeah you get notes to francis
on metro i can't remember the name metropolitan yeah you drafted it yeah i did draft it is that
gonna work out well um i think that there is gonna definitely be just some we gotta go see it
over under one oscar nomination for megalopolis under Under. Under. Under. Yeah.
Under. But don't you want to go to the theater and see the interaction? Of course I do. I mean, I know you do.
I can't wait. Not over. I think that he will get nominated for Best Director
and I think that they will do like, I think they will have him there to be
like, this is the kind of visionary that Hollywood bakes. I don't think they will.
But maybe they'll try to give him some sort of insulting honorary Oscar.
Who's more likely to get nominated
for an Oscar?
Francis Ford Coppola?
Or Mel Gibson for Flight Risk?
Clint Eastwood or Kevin Costner?
Oh.
Coppola.
Coppola.
Okay.
Yeah.
Coppola for sure.
Juror number two, though.
Undated, but coming out this year.
And not a sequel.
It's not a sequel to Jura No. 1.
Jura No. 1 which is
It's my film with Boyd Holbrook
and Logan Marshall.
You should make it as a prequel to Jura No. 2.
It's a good idea.
Anything else you want to say?
No, thank you for
getting the business out of the way.
I meant to text you to be like, how am I supposed to tee this up?
You have been so desperately nervous about sharing this information with anyone, which I appreciate it.
Because of all the schedules and what's coming up.
Yeah, I know.
And it's been looming for some time.
Unfortunately, it's still looming for a while.
This shit takes forever.
Nine months, right?
You know what?
It's actually closer to 10, but that's a different conversation.
Bobby, let's do some auction order.
All right, let's do it.
This will be the big birth of my year
is how many good movies I get.
The Top Gun Maverick hat.
I saw a three-year-old
wearing this hat
at Travel Town this weekend
and I was like,
that's a great look.
I got to get one for us.
Incredible.
Nice work by the parents.
Selecting first is Amanda Dobbins.
Damn it.
There you go.
Congratulations.
Well, rather nominating first, I should say.
Does anybody want first pick?
Do you want to trade?
No, thank you.
Okay.
Trade for like picks later?
Yeah.
Or cap space relief?
I don't know.
I just kind of want to see what direction you go in.
Okay.
I have, I know what I'll do, but.
And nominating second will be Sean.
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So I did make a long list of movies.
I want to just say publicly for the record that there's a few movies that I can't draft
because I've already seen them that I'm allowed to say
that I've seen.
Okay.
This is big of you.
I've seen Long Legs.
Okay.
I mentioned it on a pod.
It gave me a nightmare.
I never get nightmares.
I never even dream.
I've seen...
That's a true story.
Have I talked about that
on the show before?
Somehow I always knew it.
You know what I mean?
Like somehow I...
You just seem like a not dreaming guy. I need you to support me more. I do. I really... it you know what I mean like somehow I you just seem like a not
I need you to support me more I do I really I really I really do I never dream it's just it's
yeah that is that's your autobiography title do you dream do you dream often all the time
are they like happy dreams or they're really mundane oh that's that's I have like intense
anxiety dreams I think I'm vivid I'm trying to push anxiety
out of my life I think that's great you should see the film inside out too and it will give you
some tools an absolute sensation at the box office have you seen like didn't you think at the course
this weekend like playing golf with didn't I play an anxiety free round you did and you played very
well yeah and didn't you also have like one. But my job there.
The reason why I was there.
The purpose was to have fun.
Oh, that's beautiful.
Yeah.
But I don't.
What does that do with dreaming?
I mean, dream of a birdie for Christ's sake.
I also saw Twisters, which you did as well.
Right.
But I already drafted it.
Yeah.
And I've seen Maxine. That's off the board as well. And I just saw The Substance, which I won't say anything about, but I already drafted it. And I've seen Maxine.
That's off the board as well.
And I just saw The Substance,
which I won't say anything about,
but which premiered at Cannes.
So that's also off the board for me.
Off for you.
Everyone working on The Substance,
we're going to have to have a dialogue
about when I can see that given.
My most anticipated episode of the year
is me and Amanda talking about The Substance.
You will have to see that on the floor.
No, I have to see it on the floor. No, I have to see it
on the floor.
But I know it's really like
can I see it before or after
and which is better.
Yeah, right.
Right.
For so many reasons.
In part because of what you've
just revealed about your life.
I simply cannot wait.
I think it's going
to be incredible.
And then, yeah,
we already recapped the movies
that we've all taken.
Oh, there's one other movie
that I've seen
that I forgot to mention which is A Real Pain which saw at Sundance, which is the Jesse Eisenberg.
Oh, that's right.
Kiernan Culkin.
Kiernan Culkin?
Kiernan.
Kiernan Culkin.
Which is, I'll just say for me, one of my favorite movies of the year so far.
Okay.
So I can't take that, but you guys can if you are so interested.
That didn't break an embargo, what you just did.
It premiered at Sundance.
I already talked about it on the pod.
But that movie is excellent.
All right.
I got to go first.
You go first.
All right.
So the strategy here is I don't think it's smart for me to take,
to lead with like the most desperately contested like remaining.
Yeah, I think generally. Because we know that Sean will like bid me up and then let's play long
toss a little bit.
Let's just,
I have a very even keeled approach to this.
I'm not gonna,
I'm not gonna,
I mean,
you don't have to,
you don't have to be nice.
You know,
like I,
my competitiveness is not diminished by what's going on,
you know,
or my whatever.
So,
well,
your,
your,
your family's growing. You're fighting for more that's true um man i thought a lot about being pregnant on a wagon
train when i watched that seems really uncomfortable anyway couldn't be me literally
like racking back and forth uh no i think i'm gonna go with sort of like a middle-of-the-road crowd pleaser, I hope.
Conclave?
Yeah.
Conclave?
Let's discuss it.
Okay, I'll start at 80 bucks for Conclave.
This is Edward Berger's follow-up to All Quiet on the Western Front,
and it stars Ralph Fiennes, and it's about,
it's a thriller set around the election of a new pope.
Yes.
Finding the successor to a deceased pope discovers the former pope
had a secret
that must be uncovered.
Hmm.
It's a great,
it's quite a cast.
It's Ralph Fiennes,
Stanley Tucci,
John Lithgow,
Isabella Rossellini.
Absolutely.
She's playing Sister Agnes.
So she's just going to be
a threatening one.
I'm sure she'll be a nice lady.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's just what you want.
So $80.
I'll go $100.
Okay.
I'm very interested in this movie.
I got a chance to see, I think it was the trailer at CinemaCon,
and it looked damn good.
It looked very entertaining.
Edward Berger, interesting guy in that he already has his third film
or his next film kind of already set up,
which is a movie about Colin Farrell as a gambler gangster on the run in Macau.
Yes, it's called The Ballad of a Small Player.
And I'm pretty interested in that topic.
I'm equally interested
in this movie
because I had a
short-lived blog spot
called Conclave So Real.
Thanks for bringing this up.
I was going to prompt you
if you didn't do it.
It was about
the election of Joseph Ratzinger.
110, just in case
the clock is running.
Was it Joseph?
Jimmy.
God's Rottweiler, as he was known.
So one of the best blog posts I ever wrote,
and then I stopped that blog immediately.
And then what happened to him?
He passed away or he retired.
I can't remember.
I believe he stopped.
Didn't he get kicked out and there were some questionable...
That just makes this film all the more important.
I will bid 110. I already did 110 while you were important. I will bid 110. I already did
110 while you were talking. I'll bid 120.
I'm sorry.
Wait, did you really? Yeah, because
I didn't know whether Bob was running the clock.
I'll go 120. I'm always running the clock,
but just you guys are never listening to
the clock, so it kind of doesn't really matter.
We have a visual cue now, so you could
hold up five seconds.
You told me you didn't want to see the clock at all times because it was too stressful.
I do have a 1230 out, so we probably have to, like...
So, what did you bid?
I have 130.
I'll do 140.
This is kind of a...
This is a big picture uniter, this movie.
Yeah, that's actually what I thought.
It's like a thriller, historical drama, a lot of cool, fun actors.
I could also see in a year that was thin like this although this is a historically thin year.
I said 140 for the record Bob.
It is a historically
thin year.
The 2024 NBA draft
class of movie years.
It is.
A lot of similarities.
Oh it's a bad year.
Yeah.
I could see a movie
like this in the Oscar race.
For sure.
Where everybody was like
we just all agree
this was really good.
I feel like it is a
very strong contender
to be like in 8th place
in the Oscar race. Right. What was the last bid? good. I feel like it is a very strong contender to be like in eighth place in the Oscar race.
What was the last bid? 140.
I'll go 150.
I'll go 160. 170.
180. I want to see, like I just want
to see it. This is a good example of a movie where if they
emailed me tomorrow, I'd be like, I'll be there tomorrow.
Do we have any concerns about
how the current Pope is going to affect
the reception of this movie?
Like, do you think he'll get out there?
Will he reject it?
Well, I mean, he's always out there, but.
He's more of an open-minded fellow, though.
Sure, but.
He supports the arts.
I'll see you at the movies.
Maybe, like, the gathering of all the comedians was, you know.
Isn't he South American?
Promo for this?
This is great. Not really. Yeah, we know a lot about Pups.? Promo? Is he? This is great.
Not really.
We know a lot about pups.
Okay, Alayah,
say thumbs up,
but I don't know
whether that's a thumbs up
to South American
or Italian.
He is Argentinian.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Well, honestly,
there's a lot of Italian culture
in Argentina.
I'm literally Googling
who is the Pope right now.
All I know is that
he used some language
he was not supposed to
and also he hung out
with all of the comedians that's
right um he's the first jesuit pope i'll go 200 okay 205 i think pope francis has mostly been
he's been mostly i think that he has generally been perceived as like pretty tolerant but
obviously the catholic church has some inherent issues plus Plus. What do you mean? Like what? Plus his understanding of what is like appropriate vernacular across cultures is like maybe not as up to date as we would like.
Yeah.
Appropriate vernacular.
Well.
Yeah.
He's a man of a different time.
Yeah.
This man is 87 years old.
Yeah.
Been around for a while. Just like Joe. Just like Clint. a different time. Yeah. This man is 87 years old. Yeah. Been around for a while.
Just like Joe.
Just like Clint.
Oh, my God.
Wow.
Walked right into it.
Clint.
What a year for Clint, Joe, and Pope Francis.
This is a really, really long Wikipedia page.
Oh, I just got to Roll of Women.
Okay, let's keep reading.
No, I said 205.
Oh, you said 205.
Yeah.
I'll give it to Amanda for 205.
Oh, no, I'm on Pope Francis right now. 205 it is. You're good with that? No, I'm fine5. Oh, you said 205. I'll give it to Amanda for 205. Oh, no, I'm on Pope Francis right now.
205 it is.
You're good with that?
No, I'm fine.
Okay, great.
Sold to Amanda.
If only it'll get you to stop talking about the Pope
because we could definitely get ourselves in trouble.
How do you mean?
Who decides that?
Who's next?
Who decides that?
Sean nominates next.
Interesting.
So I feel like so many of the things that I want,
you guys will just make fun of me for instantaneously
and it won't even be bid worthy.
That's not true.
That's not true because I support you.
Well, okay.
Here's one that is notable.
I'll nominate Trap for $100
okay
this is the new
M. Night Shyamalan film
coming out August 2nd
a new thriller
starring Josh Hartnett
in an ordinary year
there would be some mockery
for picking a movie
that we've had two trailers for
that's coming out
and touching distance
I did not watch
the second trailer
and I will not be watching
I will not be watching
the second trailer either
yeah I agree
but we are available
to see it together
whenever you would like
to show it to us
contact me
Warner Brothers.
And you know what I think you should do?
Is when Amanda's gone,
Josh Hartnett should be the second chair.
But he has to play Lawrence from Oppenheimer
in the role of podcast host.
I would accept that.
He's so tall.
I would also accept it.
I'm just like, that sounds great.
Keep filming every episode.
I've just very, very actively been trying to get
my husband to interview Josh Hartnett.
You should profile him, honey.
I was like, don't you think?
He's got a story to tell.
He's the man of the year.
Yeah, okay.
So, 100 bucks for a trap.
105.
Shyamalan, where are you at?
Always enjoy the act of deciding that I'm going to see one of his movies and get very excited about that.
And then about midway through, I'm going to see one of his movies and get very excited about that and then about midway
through I'm like
this is complete nonsense
I saw Watchers
this weekend
as a Shyamalan
extended family
deeply disappointing
I thought
honestly not as bad
as I thought it was
going to be
see this is the
arc of expectation
is so confusing
also like you care
too much about fairies
I thought
no I don't
I don't want them
I don't want to see them
did she just break
the embargo on fairies in that movie?
We discussed it on the pod
like a month ago.
It's okay.
It's okay.
There are fairies in the film.
But not the way you think they are.
This is not Tinkerbell.
It's a sort of more of a
traumatized fairy.
Yeah.
And that was really the issue
was we didn't see the trauma.
We just heard about the trauma.
Okay, 105 still, right?
Is the window closing?
115.
This is Amanda's birthday movie.
This is a tough one.
I have a lot of horror films
that I'm looking at
for the end of this year
so I don't need Trap.
So that's fine.
So just like
as soon as teen girls
are just even on the periphery
of her movie
or like about
deeply unfair.
140.
150. You're just trying
to goad me into bidding so that I somehow
wind up with Trap for $200
and it comes out in six weeks.
160.
170.
This is among my most anticipated of the year.
I mean, mine too. Really?
I mean, it's like this and I'm like, good luck,
you know?
One. Maybe, maybe.
What was your bid?
Warmly.
Yeah.
It's one of the last like us movies of the year.
You know, where we're both like, let's go.
You know, we saw Twisters, you know, like there's not, there's not many left.
So you already got Conclave.
Yeah.
And you might get Trapper here.
This is interesting.
Well, I'm thinking about that.
I'm pondering how bad that would be for my game.
170?
180?
You don't even want to just get in the mix here?
185.
I mean, sure.
We're just giving to him for 185?
That would be really fucked up.
190.
195.
Chris, how are you feeling about Pop Girl Summer?
I'm passing on it.
I actually, there's something called Spotify Fest here.
Yeah.
And the only name I recognized was Busta Rhymes
and several other performers.
Me too.
He's on that lineup to get you there.
I tried to listen to Charli XCX's album.
And while I appreciate it,
I appreciate what she's doing.
It just was,
it just hit a different frequency.
Because it's music made by a woman?
Nope.
That's not true.
You know that I have a huge,
I have a huge appreciation for.
Who is your favorite female artist
born after
1997 that's a good
question you're wincing
no because I'm sure I
don't want to insult
anybody by getting their
age wrong I did that
woman Dolly Parton not
eligible is Sharon Van
Etten's older than that
right I believe so, yes
Do you say 97?
97
This is a great thing to ask all men in their 40s
I'm writing at 195
Sharon Van Etten is older than I am, she's 43
Sharon Van Etten is 43
Case closed, we're good It's passing on pop girl summer, understandable Karen and Vinna is 43.
Case closed.
We're good.
He's passing on Pop Girl Summer.
Understandable.
I'm passing too.
No offense.
So have you heard Espresso?
Of course.
Have you heard Espresso? Oh, I like Marissa from Mannequin Pussy.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, great.
Well done.
Perfect.
Trap, 200.
Okay.
205.
220. 240220.
$240.
$260.
$280.
And Cat from Wednesday.
Do you like Wet Leg?
Yeah.
I think they're probably after 1997, right?
Yeah.
$300?
I'm definitely not bidding $300 for Trap, so go ahead.
$305.
You can keep looking at me.
I'm not going to get goaded into bidding $306 and then wind up with this movie.
Do you know anything about Chapel Road?
And tread carefully.
Yeah, Phoebe likes her and watches a lot of her Instagram material.
Okay, great.
Yeah, and so she was covering something the other day, and I was like, oh.
I think what, you know what I'm trying to do?
I'm going to say $215 just for the sake of it.
I said $315.
Okay.
For the sake of this conversation.
I've got like a five-year window where i don't have to worry about this yeah oh before before alice yeah so i'm gonna just like sit it out so that's i meanwhile i'm trying to instill an
appreciation now before i start giving them stone temple pilots albums fully rejected i mean i can't
even yeah um i cannot wait to get your kids into black metal.
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36 Chambers.
Gainesville Hardcore.
315.
320.
330.
340.
Yeah, it'll be tough.
I might end up with just five $1 movies.
$995 left over.
I think that probably is like the most fun
fun way to have different films this year though 340 345 i really want it but i don't know if i
totally want it okay you can have it 345 yeah that's i mean i would have gone to like 700 so
i don't think this movie is gonna 700 i don't care I don't care. Just show me Josh Hartnett as a serial killer
and then I'm on leave.
Like, bye.
Wow.
There's literally like two full months of pods after that.
I know.
This is like if Dazed and Confused took place
on Valentine's Day.
They were like, it's all over, right?
It's like, nope, finals are coming.
Okay, CR, you put one up.
Instigators.
Okay.
Which is Doug Limman's Boston crime thriller
with Matt Damon
and Casey Affleck
and has
what's that smell
the distinct aroma
possibly of the
Casey Affleck
Dunkin Donuts
sketch on SNL
oh
but also maybe the town
I can't tell
I've never seen
I've
I can't recall
in August
dumping
quite like this
yeah and I'm fascinated by it because it's Doug Lyman Matt Damon I can't recall an August dumping quite like this. Yeah.
And I'm fascinated by it because it's Doug Liman,
Matt Damon, and best actor winner Casey Affleck.
And Hong Chao.
Yeah, Hong Chao.
And there's one other well-known actor.
Anyway, I see this as a great opportunity
to create the Matt Damon Hall of Fame on this podcast,
which is something we will do.
Great. Can't wait.
Is he invited?
As I said earlier,
Chris is invited to any episode
he would like to come to.
Well, let me just connect.
Oh, you are on the
spreadsheet. $80 for that one.
$80. $90.
$120. My word.
You're not interested.
Wait, but I know.
So did you introduce it? I introduced it. And then did you? Wait. But I know. So did you introduced it?
Or you introduced it?
I introduced it.
And then did you already up him?
I did.
And then you went to $150.
And then I jumped $40.
Okay.
Just recap something that happened 11 seconds ago.
Well, I wasn't listening.
Have you seen the trailer for this film?
I was looking at the spreadsheet.
Yes.
Yeah.
You said $120?
$125.
$135.
$150.
All right.
This is getting a little spicy.
$160,000?
What if it's amazing?
What if it's like...
What is with the...
I mean, is it really just that bad?
Or is it that Apple was like,
we don't want to deal with Doug Liman anymore
and we're just giving it a...
People are saying that they don't want to deal
with Doug Liman for two decades
and they keep dealing with him
and he honestly keeps making pretty good movies.
Sure.
Sure. Sure.
I say this with
no ill will
towards anybody
participating
but I think
this will be terrible.
Yeah.
Because it's coming
out in August?
I could be wrong.
I would like
for it to be good.
I'm very fond
of Matt Damon
doing Boston things.
It's just generally
worked out well.
Paul Walter Hauser
and Michael Stuhlbarg
and Ving Rhames
and Alfred Molina
and Toby Jones and Jack Harlow. That's a sick cast. Jack Harlow can't really vouch for that. Otherwise out well walter hauser michael stuhlbarg and ving rames and alfred melina and toby jones and jack
harlow that's a sick cast jack harlow can't really vouch for that otherwise i mean it is jack harlow
is chris's favorite female artist since 1997 though casey athleck co-screenwriting i just
learned about jack harlow like two months ago live on jam session uh he's very popular yeah
that i learned a rapper i learned that as well So this is tough also because it's like you have Matt and Casey going with their like,
you know, comedic comedy movie in August.
And then you got Brad and George later in September.
And it's like.
Are you queuing up your next?
No, I'm just.
Well, I'm just like, what we really want is all of you back together, you know, in another
Oceans movie directed by Steven Soderbergh.
Does Hollywood want that? Do they want to pay know, in another Oceans movie directed by Steven Soderbergh. Does Hollywood want that?
Do they want to pay
$300 million for Oceans 14?
He's too busy keeping it real.
Keeping it real with what?
With his experimental genre films.
With the film Presence.
Why did this come up?
What's the number?
Oh, because you were...
Still 130.
He was trying to guess.
It's 130 to me still.
Shouldn't I have won by now?
Yeah, you got it.
Chris has got it.
Chris got the instigator.
When we asked you
before you did
all your research
what movie you were
most looking forward to
you were just like
that Soderbergh movie
that's coming out right?
That is what you said.
You can put another movie
up for auction here
because we're snake style.
Let's do
Anora.
Oh yeah.
I really want to see this
if anyone's listening.
The winner of the
Cannes Film Festival.
Yes.
Perhaps a star-making
performance for
Mikey Madison.
Sean Baker is back.
A filmmaker
I like.
Don't have
incredibly strong feelings about.
I think we've had a conversation
about Sean Baker.
I really,
I think I like his
technique more than his movies.
But this one.
Is it because they're often
about sex workers and female characters?
I actually, to be fair...
Never mind.
I think that this movie
has a lot of space
to just take up a huge
fine chair in the award season.
I haven't seen it. You haven't awards season. I haven't seen it.
You haven't seen it.
I haven't seen it either.
I'm available.
Has anybody not liked it?
Has it gotten any dings?
It was, you know,
they show the critics' scorecard from Cannes
when the festival is happening,
and it was the only film
that pretty consistently had
three and four stars across all the across.
So I need a better critic here.
But it was a really, really rocky Cannes.
This movie kind of saved can in many ways.
But Hollywood, and especially the Academy, loves an ingenue.
Somebody like Mikey Madison has been working for a long time
but hasn't had a breakout like this.
It's a movie that is clearly very inspired by Pretty Woman
but has very contemporary politics and ideas.
It's about a woman who is a sex worker
who meets a Russian oligarch
and quickly marries him
and then things happen
always liked Mikey Madison
very fun
and Scream
six?
five
five
once upon a time in Hollywood
50 bucks
100 bucks
150 bucks
200 bucks
225
235 250 very interested in this 270 280 we never had a red
rocket episode i really liked it he's in this one wasn't ready isn't he in this too i'm not sure
also just like talk about incredible press tours. Simon Rex?
Yeah.
He crushed it.
It was so good.
He's just always calling from Joshua Tree.
And he's like, it's really important to keep your toes spread.
You know?
I hope that Anora.
I'm serious.
That's a real quote.
He's a kook.
I like him.
Was that because of the pandemic?
Was he like in Joshua Tree?
No, it's because like he, I guess where he grew up.
Did he grow up in Hawaii or did he?
I don't remember.
But he was just like, I was barefoot a lot.
And it's just really important.
You need the toe spreader for better like toe alignment.
300.
This feels like one of the few movies that we don't know a ton about that has juice in both the Oscar race and that will be like a rich discussion point.
And it's coming out in October 18th.
Mm-hmm.
Simon Rex is not in this film.
310.
315.
Oh.
325
because this could
do Metacritic
and this could be Oscars.
Yeah.
So you guys
it's a valuable pick
for the Oscars.
I agree.
330.
350.
Wow.
You really want this, huh?
360.
What are you saving your thousand dollars for? That's what I'm saying. I just went into the 370. Yeah, want this, huh? 360. What are you saving your $1,000 for?
That's what I'm saying.
I just went into 370.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
370.
370.
380.
385.
390.
Four.
Have we had a 400 in a while?
Good question.
I don't think any films cost $400 in our last.
What films do you have right now on your slate?
Instigators.
I just drafted it.
This is like the first round.
This is the fucking problem, by the way,
is that Matt Damon and Casey Affleck make a crime movie
and we're like, eh.
That's why Kevin Costner only made $11 million this weekend.
The woke mob has stormed upon the instigators.
We're out here canceling the Pope
instead of seeing Horizon.
I said 410.
You can have it. Okay, great.
That is a high bid for Enora. But
Palme d'Or winner. Palme d'Or winners
consistently get Best Picture nominations.
I don't think this is going to make $100 million at the
American Box Office. I can't believe you're not going to Cannes next year.
It's not confirmed.
Did you learn nothing from not going this year?
Well, clearly not going this year was...
That was a mistake.
I was angsty, and yet it was not a good Cannes.
Yeah, but think about all the material.
The mistake was not going to the Marty Cannes.
The mistake is not going every year,
which is why I'm going to remedy that next year.
Okay.
I wish you were going.
Yeah.
But he's not going to come.
I'll see you at the movies.
Will you be flying private with your brood?
All right.
Next movie I put up for bid is,
let's just do it.
Wolves.
Oh, yeah.
This is the new George Clooney Brad Pitt vehicle.
Rumor floating around that there's a George Clooney Brad Pitt draft coming on this podcast.
Oh, interesting.
Have you seen the trailer?
Yeah.
What'd you think?
It was funny.
It was funny, but all these Apple movies kind of have a little bit of like,
just want to check under the hood.
Want to see what the engine looks like.
You know?
Is this an Apple movie?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I thought it was just Sony. Gotcha. I mean, this
is really why it's like
I'm concerned for you and the instigators,
but also... Are you just going full
Apple? Yes. Six Apple films?
Now I'm going full Apple as I sit
here with all my Apple products.
I'll bid $100.
I'll bid $125.
I'll do $150. I'll bid $125. I'll do $150.
$175.
This is more of an I want to believe than I actually do believe situation.
I'm being honest with you.
We've got to get over this.
We've got to be enthusiastic cheerleaders for the arts.
If not us, who?
You know?
It's a fair point.
So what did you bid?
$175? Yeah. $185? $195. if not us who you know it's a fair point so what did you bid 175 yeah
185
195
just as soon as
it came out of my mouth
just rolled out of your mouth
yeah
wow
it's like he just
burped it up
stuff
one of instigators
or wolves will be good
well
I'm not going any higher
so you'll be able to
oh 200
I don't know
what you have it
oh really
great
okay yeah i've gotten
every movie that i wanted so far okay uh are you out of money now you have two movies to put up
here oh shit okay um well okay this is interesting now i really do need to i thank you to first
showing.net for all the good work that you do so So you have Conclave, Trap, and Wolves,
and you have $250 left over.
Right.
And I do need another $100 million domestic
because I believe in Twisters.
Guys, if Twisters doesn't break $100 million domestic,
what are we doing here
just as a
society
I just think it's harder
to predict than ever
there are movies that have been
big this year
but that was a call to action
to everyone sitting at home
you know
if you mean business
then fucking show up
I believe that's called
embargo break
this is after Amanda
it's like
bring me all of your
rough cuts to my home
so that I may watch
on the comfort of my couch
no I can listen I'm trying to be out and that I may watch on the comfort of my couch.
No, I can...
Listen, I'm trying
to be out and about.
I hear you.
Do you wish that your reviews
were on the posters
of movies more often?
Do you wish that you were
a staff writer
for showing.net?
I've seen the rough cut
and it was okay.
Amanda Dobbins,
the big picture.
I feel like...
I do honestly feel like
if you were not at all faithful
to the context of my quotes that I could deliver some really powerful poster material. Oh, like if you were not at all faithful to the context of my quotes,
that I could deliver some really powerful poster material.
Oh, like if there was no...
Yeah.
I mean, we could deliver some great stuff for Donald Trump's campaign, you know?
Sure, that's true.
Please don't do that.
I will sue him and then it won't matter.
Yeah.
It always works out well.
Okay.
Oh, a real pain for $50.
$75.
Okay.
Yeah.
$85.
$100.
You want it?
Who knows?
Okay.
$105.
$115.
$120.
$130. $135. 115 120 130 135
Interesting
So you're gonna go
And then you're gonna get something
For like 10 bucks after this
I'll go 150
Have either of you seen
When you finished
Saving the World?
Jesse Eisenberg's first movie
No
As a director
One
What did you
You said 150?
Finn Wolfhard
And Julianne Moore no i didn't
oh i really like finn wolfhard though i did see it i did see it i just forgot yeah it was good
i wasn't a huge fan one uh i thought a real pain was excellent for the poster yeah
you and jesse fucking you guys are really doing it man you got the Knicks
you should have
Jesse Eisenberg
I was wondering
how long it was
going to take
yeah
well you're
it's I mean
it's playoff P Monday
for you
so you feeling good
I hope
what does that mean
Paul George
is on the Sixers
and he has a playoff P
I did see that
that's who he is
I only know him as a cat
called Podcast P
yeah Podcast P
you know him as a
oh yeah
he's like a cat out there
good memory
now we can be like a cat out there. Yeah, yeah. Good memory.
Now we can be like a cat out there with Joel and Mead.
Where's Paul George?
He's in the garage.
Honestly, some of Bill's best work.
It's all his work. Just lights out stuff.
There's no one better.
Yeah, he's truly...
Bill, truly the goat of animal metaphors for...
Do you see 150?
Yeah.
155?
What movie is this? Do you guys know what Yeah. Uh, 155?
What movie is this? Do you guys know what this movie is about?
Yeah, they're on a trip, right?
Those guys are there like going across Europe.
A Real Pain follows mismatched cousins,
David and Benji,
who reunite for a tour through Poland
to honor their beloved grandmother.
But it's not. Is it comic?
It is.
It felt very,
very Elaine May to me.
Oh,
you're speaking my language
because Elaine May
is a woman artist
that I love.
What's the number?
What's the number, Bob?
155.
165.
175. Yeah, two. Chris currently has one film, The Instigators. I got a real pain for $200. what's the number Bob 155 165 175 yeah two
Chris currently has
one film
The Instigators
I got
I got a real pain
for $200
yeah you can have it
oh it's done
yeah
it's done
you're up
okay
unfortunately I didn't
write any more movies down
on that list over there
it's gonna be tough for you
do we need to vamp a little bit
no no no
I mean
you know I'm scrolling through
the thing is is that if I like I mean, you know, I'm scrolling through. The thing is, is that if I like,
I have to pick something that I'm okay being stuck with.
Can I raise three movies that are undated
that I think are coming out this year, but I'm not sure?
Just as discussion points for us.
I'd love to hear more.
One of them is notable for you.
One is queer.
Oh, right.
This is Luca Guadagnino's next film.
They haven't officially announced Venice yet, but isn't it going to open Venice?
Presumably.
Okay.
Thank you for reminding me.
I also felt like it was a, it seems like a strong Telluride title as well.
Okay.
Daniel Craig's in this, right?
That's what they do.
It's a Colorado thing.
Yeah.
Daniel Craig's in it.
Daniel Craig.
One of the front runners for best actor this year.
The other movie is The Smashing Machine, which is filming right now.
This is Benny Stafdy's movie with Dwayne Johnson. Oh, right. You think this is going to best actor this year. The other movie is The Smashing Machine, which is filming right now. This is Benny Stafdy's movie
with Dwayne Johnson, The Rock.
Oh, right.
You think this is going to come out this year?
I didn't think so, and now I do.
I feel like it's got real, like,
December 31st release date energy
written all over it.
Kind of same playbook as The Iron Claw
for A24.
I could be wrong.
It could be pushed to 25.
I wanted to raise it.
And there's one more movie
that has a similar shape,
which is SNL 1975, which is Jason Reitman's docudrama about, I think it's the first night of the first episode of Saturday Night Live
with a very loaded cast of promising young actors.
Directed by Jason Reitman.
By Jason Reitman.
I will bid on Queer for $50.
I'll say $100.
Okay.
I really can't say.
$110?
You can't say what?
I can't say how I feel about this film.
I don't know any...
I doubt that this is coming out this year.
It's based on a book by William F. Burroughs,
and it's written by Justin Kuritskis,
the same author of Challengers.
I love William F. Burroughs.
Well...
Isn't it William S. Burroughs?
It is William S. Burroughs.
Yeah, that's how much I love him, is that I knew that is correct middle name. Well. Isn't it William S. Burroughs? It is William S. Burroughs. Yeah.
That's how much I love him.
I knew that is correct middle name.
You got it right.
120.
This is so tough because there's just,
I have so much passion for cinema
and so many of the movies have already been taken.
This is so tough.
Could this be any more tough for you?
140.
150.
160. Just to spice things up are you a luca person just to throw a little turmeric in it uh that's a really good question i don't i don't think so okay but i
would love respectfully what are you doing i loved challenge oh good okay uh 170 here 180
clay thompson is joining the dallas mavericks on a three-year $50 million deal, Chris.
Clay Thompson.
Good for him.
I'm glad he didn't go to LeBron.
Okay.
What did you bid?
150.
Where is the bidding right now?
I couldn't hear because you guys were cross-talking.
I think you bid...
Oh, sorry for bringing some life to a podcast, Bobby.
I'm just telling you practically
from a technical perspective,
it is challenging to hear when it's quick.
But last I heard was 160.
And by whom?
By you.
Oh, good.
Okay.
170.
175.
You're running out of dough.
I can just take this one from you.
If you'd like to do that, go ahead.
It's really not a bad idea.
Okay.
I feel pretty strongly about this movie,
but I know you do too.
And I want to be in the spirit of friendship today.
I know you do too because I just told you about it 45 seconds ago.
No, she has brought it up to me before.
I knew about it and then I forgot. And I mean, I still...
That'd be really funny if I brought it up to help you and took it from you. That would
be the meanest thing I could possibly do.
If you want to do it, like I said, you know, like this podcast is still this podcast.
My name is my name.
Challengers was supposed to be opening night
at Venice last year
when I was there
I'm sorry
And I think that
would have been electric
190?
That would have been
Did you see somebody
200
had a cool Instagram
of Zendaya
at Home Depot
this weekend
210
I did see that
Yeah
She just seems like
a real down to earth person
Zendaya?
Yeah
210 215 220 225 I did see that. Yeah. She just seems like a real down-to-earth person. Zendaya? Yeah.
210.
215.
220.
225.
Should I just push up to 249?
Like, if you want to.
You can have it at 225.
Okay, thank you.
Yeah.
So now you have $25 left and one movie left.
Yeah.
You did a really good job.
Thanks so much.
Yeah.
Thank you.
You kind of... He got a little soft, to be totally honest, but thank you. You. Yeah. You did a really good job. Thanks so much. Yeah. Thank you. You kind of, that was.
He got a little soft, to be totally honest, but thank you.
You're welcome.
Well, you really, you really set us up by like your big announcement.
And now we're all like, we can't be mean to Amanda.
So it's Sean's turn.
How long do you think that'll hold?
Like one more podcast? One more round of this draft.
It's also just like, that's just for the public because you've known
for months.
So no one's been nice to me.
I'm just going to put
Moana 2 on the board
for $1.
I won't be bidding on this.
I can't.
Well, no, I can
because I'll tell you why.
I'm pretty well versed
in Moana.
Are you?
Yeah, because I watch
the volcanoes thing.
What is Moana about?
I watched Moana. I think I've seen Moana. Tell me the plot of Moana. Are you? Yeah, because I watched the volcanoes thing. What is Moana about? I watched Moana.
I think I've seen Moana.
Tell me the plot of Moana.
Two volcanoes fall in love.
Can you fact check this?
That's the short film
Lava that you're referring to.
Oh, right.
Not the timeless
Disney classic Moana.
Is that of the Moana universe?
No.
Wait, you're allowed
to have one sequel, right?
I'm allowed to have one sequel. And this would be it? This would be it. Oh, you're allowed to have one sequel, right? I'm allowed to have one sequel.
And this would be it?
This would be it.
Oh, but neither of us can even bid on it.
Yeah, I already got my sequels.
Because we both have sequels.
That's right.
That's why I took it for $1.
Okay.
Congratulations.
Well, that seems great.
Do you actually feel good about this?
Because Lin-Manuel Miranda didn't do the songs.
The original Moana is absolute crack.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It is...
I'm sitting at home in my house alone at 10 p.m.
quietly singing to myself,
Moana, make way, make way.
Every day.
Every day of my life.
I cannot.
I liked Hamilton a lot
and I feel very fortunate to have seen it.
And it's original.
But I did not know the depths and power of Lin's skills
yeah
absolute lord
Hamilton didn't reveal
the full depths
of his talent
Moana did
there was too much like
I like rap
uh huh
like nerdiness
you like rap too
I know I know
but it was a reflection
of something that I don't like
about myself
yeah it's too close
it was a little too close
Moana is just like
here's what we do
we sing beautiful songs
okay
we write incredible,
we write masterpiece level
musical theater
for animated characters.
Moana 2.
It's definitely gonna make
a hundred million dollars.
I really needed one of those.
So this was an easy one for me.
Okay.
Chris.
Did we,
we didn't do this last time.
Joker.
Wanted to.
I'll start it at 100.
I'm out.
So that's too bad.
Okay.
Here's the thing.
It's going to be a time and a half at the theater.
I'm on the record as being pro Joker.
I have no shame about...
Jason Concepcion and I sat here.
Yeah.
Not here, but in another room.
And we looked each other in the eyes
and we said
I like Joker
will you support me
and he said yes
and I said yes
and
I like
most of Todd Phillips' movies
you know what's gonna make
a lot of money
is this film
and I think it'll also
do well critically
and in a
you think it'll get
an 85 Metascore
I think it might get
an Oscar nomination
or two
for whom Joaquin Gaga did we already do this though he already won the Oscar for Joker oh wait You think it'll get an 85 Metascore? I think it might get an Oscar nomination or two. For whom?
Joaquin Gaga.
Did we already do this, though?
He already won the Oscar for Joker.
Oh, wait.
I can't do this.
It's a sequel.
It is a sequel.
God damn it.
Just too good at drafting.
But then are you even allowed to bid on it?
No.
I'm neither can I.
I have two sequels.
Oh, well.
Oh, okay.
Oh.
Joker, fully ado, will not be.
I already have two sequels. Yeah. We Joker folia do I already have two sequels
Yeah
We're hemmed in by our own rules
Just like the NBA
The second apron
Has come into effect
Well done
Okay so I have to
Pick something else
Yes
I sadly will not be able
To get Venom the last dance either
That's really sad
You fucked up
I guess I'll go blink twice
I've seen this
Okay
He's out
I can't bid I'm gonna go 50 twice. I've seen this. Okay. He's out. I can't bid.
I'm going to go 50 bucks.
Well, I don't have that.
Okay.
Congratulations.
So.
And now.
And I'm just going to.
Just to bring it back to.
A contemporary storyline, Sean.
Yes.
I will nominate the film Heretic.
I wanted to discuss this with you.
Thank you for bringing it up.
Awesome trailer.
Heretic movie. Oh, you don't know what this is. Oh, Hugh Grant. Hugh Grant. Oh, exciting. heretic i wanted to discuss this with you thank you for bringing awesome trailer heretic oh you
don't know what this is oh you don't know it oh exciting yeah read the description two mormon
missionaries attempt to convert a man it turns out to be far more dangerous than they could have
anticipated okay so he is he's the man he's the man so obviously's the man. So obviously things are going to go wrong for him. Chloe East and Sophie Hatcher, two very exciting young actors.
Oh, things are going to go badly for them because he's, yeah.
He only does things where he gets to really, you know, be dastardly.
He looks very evil.
Yeah.
Well, that's kind of what I think.
Did you happen to read his review of Taylor Swift, the heirs tour in London.
Did he write it?
No.
On Twitter.
Are you not following Hugh Grant's Twitter?
Okay, listen.
It is.
No, because it is.
It is a mix of what I'm about to read you.
And then just like scorching hot expiration of the current UK political system.
But it's like amazing, amazing dad Twitter.
Here we go.
Here's his review.
June 23rd.
Dear at TaylorSwift13,
you have an incredible show,
an amazing NV hospital team,
an excellent if gigantic boyfriend,
parentheses, hashtag tequila shots.
Thanks so much from one aging London boy,
wife and thrilled eight-year-old. Hashtag half girl, half Thanks so much from one aging London boy, wife, and thrilled eight-year-old.
Hashtag half girl, half bracelet.
It seems like she's...
Excellent if gigantic.
Hugh Grant and Travis Kelly taking tequila shots together.
That's just a...
You need that.
I'm sorry, what did you say?
Do you think that she's purposely trying to alienate Joe Allen from the UK celebrity ecosystem
by inviting every famous English person to these shows?
Yeah, of course.
And I definitely think
that Travis made his
onstage debut in London
for a reason.
You know,
Andrew Scott is a little bit
just like seems to be
having the summer of his life
and I would like to be with him.
You know, but like
he and Phoebe Waller-Bridge
were jamming out.
He was at Glastonbury this weekend.
Yeah, and then he was with Paul Mascola at Glastonbury.
They seem to be having a great time.
I bid $100 for Heretic, by the way.
I don't have $100.
But maybe I would see this movie.
It's written and directed by Scott Beck and Brian Woods, who also wrote A Quiet Place and Haunt.
They directed Haunt, right?
I believe so.
Pretty good horror movie from five, six years ago.
This just looks really solid.
Do we think it's going to be like really really solid. Do we think it's going to be
like really gross?
No I think it's going to be
almost like
a little fable-ish.
It feels like he's playing
kind of a Vincent Price character.
Yeah.
It's like he sets up
a series of tests
of their faith right?
Yeah it's like a little bit
of like I don't know
the Abominable Dr. Fibes
or like one of those
70s movies
where he's teaching a lesson about religious zealotry.
It's too bad you can't have this.
You only have two movies.
Yeah, I know.
It's tough.
I'll go 150.
I'll go two.
I'll go 225.
I actually wrote this down at the top of the document.
I'm not sure if you saw it, Amanda, because I was hoping this would come up.
Yeah, I saw it.
But the real fight is going to happen when we get Red 1 out there.
Forbidding.
Who will put that out there?
What did you put this at?
200?
And that's the prequel to Red 2.
So that's exciting.
Prequels are allowed, if not.
No.
No, they're not.
Because Furiosa was my
and Romulus would be a prequel
and Romulus would be a prequel too
or
or should they be
it's too late
we both have a lot of money left
that's true
but I wouldn't be wasting my time
with Heretic
if Romulus is in the mix
well
but then
what did you
did you bid or no
I guess prequels are not
part one is different than a prequel
correct
yeah
because otherwise
Chris is really...
Oh, yeah.
You're in trouble.
Did you bid or no?
I think I said like $200.
I said $225.
Oh, $230.
Mmm, $235.
This is an A24 film?
$240.
$240.
I feel like I kind of got to get this.
Do you?
I feel like I do.
You have... $250. $250. You have $589 left and I have $620 left. I feel like I kind of got to get this. Do you? I feel like I do. 250.
You have 589 left and I have 620 left.
So I'm going to put this at 300 and see where we are.
There's no other horror thrillers that you're interested in, Sean?
There are some horror thrillers I'm interested in.
I've seen a bunch.
I would have scooped up long legs in a heartbeat if I had not already seen it.
You're kind of the Pope of this podcast.
That's your cross to bear, you know?
Kind of the Pope?
Or the actual Pope?
Or are you God?
You know?
No.
No, I'm not God.
Who's God?
There is no God.
It's not Costner.
Could be Kevin Costner.
You can have it for $300.
Okay.
That's Heretic.
Now you pick.
It's your turn.
Is it? Yeah, because I... Oh, yeah, you took two? First I accidentally did Joker, then I got... Blinketic. Now you pick. It's your turn. Is it?
Yeah, because I...
Oh, yeah, you took two?
First I accidentally did Joker,
then I got...
Blink twice.
Blink twice, and now I got Heretic.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
You can't do Beetlejuice Beetlejuice.
Yeah.
Wow.
You really betrayed yourself and your beliefs.
I think I might be more excited for Moana 2,
even though it was just a TV show
that they refashioned into a movie
okay
it's gonna make
900 billion dollars
right sure
I'm gonna put
Emilia Perez on the board
oh yeah
I'm interested
in this
Emilia Perez is the
new film from Jacques Odiard
yep
stars
Selena Gomez
and the lioness
and the lioness
and the lioness
herself
and Edgar Ramirez, your boy.
Yeah, love him.
This was a film of much controversy
at the Cannes Film Festival.
It's about a disgruntled lawyer
who's tasked with assisting
an escaped Mexican cartel leader
in undergoing sex reassignment surgery
to both evade the authorities
and affirm her gender.
Jacques Audiard, legendary French director.
Kind of a musical too?
There are musical elements to it.
I'll put it on the board for $10.
Would I be surprised to see multiple Academy Award nominations?
No.
No.
I think this is Netflix's big Oscar play this year.
Even though this movie is very divisive.
But they got Selena in the bag and willing to.
Yeah. And she won
Best Actress along with her co-stars
at Cannes.
Audrey Ard's good. 50 bucks.
He directed the last
few episodes of The Bureau. Did he?
Yeah. I'll say $100.
So Fassbender's officially in
American Bureau. And Joe Wright
is directing it. Are they filming it yet? Fassbender is officially in American Bureau. And Joe Wright is directing it.
Are they filming it yet?
Fassbender and who?
Jeffrey Wright.
Wow.
Did you ever watch Love Bureau?
And Joe Wright is directing it.
Yeah, and Joe Wright.
This is the Joe Wright Club.
And Jez Butterworth.
What are you talking about?
You don't have time for that.
What's Joe Wright's last good movie?
Anna Karenina?
That was made 15 years ago.
I liked Hannah.
Oh, Hannah was good. Yeah. That's 12 years ago. I apologized for the last good movie. Anna Karenina? That was made 15 years ago. I liked Hannah. Oh, Hannah was good.
Yeah.
That's 12 years ago.
I apologized for the Hannah erasure.
I say $100 for Amelia Perez.
Do I get it?
The dads loved Darkest Hour.
110.
I love Darkest Hour.
125.
Darkest Hour is solid.
It is solid.
And I had a good time.
Did Gary Oldman win for that?
He did.
130.
People got to dream bigger.
Chris thought he should have won for Dark Knight.
150.
When he pointed the fucking light at this guy.
I watched War for the Planet of the Apes,
and I also thought he should have won for that.
Oh, he's good in that, yeah.
They're animals!
It's a great part.
Is he the best screamer of all time?
The best yeller?
The best male yeller the best male
yeller in movie history
we're having fun
for now
Slow Horses
is back in September
is he yelling a lot
on that show
should I catch up
no I'm gonna save it
okay
and that's gonna be
one of my
150
did I tell you
about my
Emily in Paris
dilemma
that it's out
yeah but it's like
do I watch it
when it comes out
or do I save it
for just like
truly
well you've had
this experience
once before.
Did you find it rewarding
to watch television
in the early days
of child rearing?
Yeah, but like
a specific zone out
television,
which is why
Emily in Paris
would be such a treat.
You can have it.
Thank you.
Yeah.
This is quite a lineup so far.
A Nora Moana 2
and Amelia Perez.
It's an oddball
auction for us.
I got instigators,
a real plane,
real pain blink twice and heretic for $300.
Okay.
So Amanda,
you've got one more movie to put up.
You've got $25.
Now be careful.
Better not be anything that we want.
Even a little bit.
I,
yeah,
I know.
Um,
maybe,
maybe I want this,
but I don't know what else to do.
I'm,
I'm going to put, I'm going to, know um maybe maybe you'll want this but i don't know what else to do i'm i'm gonna put
i'm gonna i'm gonna test my harris dickinson stock and also my nicole kidman um being
interested in younger men stock uh with baby girl for five dollars this is the first time i've ever
heard of this film so it's's Helena Rine is the director.
She made Bodies, Bodies, Bodies.
A one-time guest of this podcast.
Offline, I have a very funny Helena Rine story to tell you both that I will not be sharing on this podcast.
Wow.
Pure Windhorst from you right there.
This was on my list.
Yeah.
Nicole Kidman was honored last week with an award.
I can't remember what award it was.
The AFI Lifetime Something Award.
Zac Efron inducted her.
We have not spoken about the film A Family Affair.
Oh, yeah.
Is it good?
You texted me and said you thought it was delightful and I thought it was quite poor.
I thought it was pretty charming.
I liked it way more than The Idea of You.
And it's in the sort of May, December.
I just, like, I thought that...
The polarity of this show is you liking that movie
and me liking the idea of you.
Well, I just, like, that guy in Idea of You,
it does not exist to me.
Like, I can't see him on the screen.
And I thought Zac Efron was charming in this.
Zac Efron looks like CGI in the movie.
I mean, he does.
But that, you know,
there's some
complicated facial things going on there.
So it was really the realism of a family
affair that you were really responding to? I wanted at
least three of Nicole
Kittman's outfits.
And I thought that they
spent more money on the interiors
than is normally spent. And I laughed a couple
times. So I did actually think it was charming. joy king was good joy king was good you know and
it's about the about it's how it's difficult to make films and also difficult to have family
that's what family affairs yeah but together we can what's the other one about baby girl is about
grooming is it that's the impression i'm getting. Here's the one line description.
Despite the risk and prejudices,
a very successful CEO begins an illicit affair
with her much younger intern.
So she's doing two movies about this.
Well, I guess Zac Efron is not.
She's been doing this forever.
She's the paper boy.
This is something she does.
Was she in birth?
She was in birth.
Yeah.
Which is, that is grooming in a different way.
I'm very interested in this movie i am the world's oldest bodies bodies bodies super fan
that is true i i wear that mantle proudly yeah um but i'll let you have it okay great thank you
harris dickinson season now this feels like a telluride movie to me okay well listen it's
between you and god whether you go to the mountains and see some films.
I'll be going.
I'm already signed up.
So you have two slots left.
No, you got, or did you get your fourth there?
I've got two and you've got one.
Yeah.
So it's my turn.
Nomination.
Would it be really funny if I got The Apprentice?
I was thinking about it.
It does have a distributor, Briarcliff.
Yeah.
That's our LLC.
Did you see that
Hayley Meyer Shire's new film
is coming out this year?
I did,
on Annie Meyer Shire's Instagram,
which I'm following religiously.
The renovation,
ongoing.
Is Annie Meyer Shire,
the Instagram,
the distributor of
Hayley Meyer Shire's film?
So,
the film stars Michael Keaton, your husband,
and your second husband, and...
Third.
Mila Kunis.
Who's your second?
Austin Butler?
Steven Soderbergh.
Oh.
Well established.
And it's being distributed by Ketchup Entertainment.
Okay.
They distributed the film Hypnotic,
starring Ben Affleck, directed by Robert Rodriguez.
I saw that film in theaters.
As did I.
Okay. That's a real, theaters. As did I. Okay.
That's a real, that's a true thing.
Okay.
It's a real company.
Just putting that out there for you.
You've already got five films.
I'll see it.
I don't want The Apprentice.
Do you?
No, I want something else.
You don't want The Apprentice.
Did you nominate it?
Or did you just say I could nominate it?
I'm taking another animated film.
For $100, I'm taking another animated film. For $100,
I'm selecting
The Wild Robot.
I don't even,
those are just two words
put together.
This is an adaptation
of a beloved
children's story.
It's directed by Chris Sanders.
Chris Sanders,
one of the more
notable names
in animation
in the last 25 years.
He made Lilo and Stitch.
He worked on
the How to Train Your Dragon films.
Lupita Nyong'o
is the voice. She's the How to Train Your Dragon films. Lupita Nyong'o is the voice.
She's the titular robot who's wild.
I think this is going to win
Best Animated Feature.
I'm calling it right now.
I'm reading about Dakota Johnson's
new book club book, Pink Slime,
which is apparently a well-imagined,
often poetically beautiful plague story.
How did that happen?
How did you wind up reading about that?
I got an email.
Oh, because you're done.
And I was reading that instead of listening to him talk about it.
I'll take this for $18.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
Which will leave me with $321.
To do what with?
To take away this movie that you got.
Well, you have $320.
Okay.
So what's your bid?
Well, you could also bid.
Oh, so you all...
Okay, so now it's my turn to pick something, right?
Yes.
I'll be picking the new film from Justin Kurtzel called The Order,
which is about a white supremacist group in Idaho getting into criminal behavior.
And Jude Law plays the FBI agent investigating them.
I'm so excited to talk to you about this.
And Nicholas Holt is the white supremacist.
The best thing ever about this movie.
Are you allowed to?
Is Jude Law playing American?
Yeah, he's an American FBI agent.
Can you be in the FBI if you're not American?
He's not Jude Law.
He's pretending to be a guy.
I don't think it's like being the president.
I think that's a bad idea is one thing I would say.
I think Jude Law should be Jude Law.
I was listening to the program WTF with Marc Maron.
He had Jude Law on the podcast.
I was like, play as soon as that was published.
And one of the first things that Jude Law says to Marc Maron is,
or one of the first things Marc Maron says to Jude Law is,
I haven't seen you since we did the movie together.
Oh, right.
Marc Maron's in this.
Marc Maron is in The Order.
And Jude Law and Marc Maron
talked about the craft of acting
for a solid hour and 12 minutes.
Did Maron tell him about the time
Bobby De Niro came up to him on the set?
It absolutely came up
as it comes up in every episode of WTF.
I adore WTF.
The idea of Jude Law and Marc Maron
even being in the same room,
let alone in the same film,
is very confusing to me.
Justin Kurtzel.
What's your favorite
Justin Kurtzel movie?
Macbeth.
Is that actually good?
It looks good.
And Macbeth is good.
I feel like that film's
a bit of a slog.
Okay.
Did he also direct
what's the terrible
Michael Fassbender
video game adaptation?
Assassin's Creed.
I don't feel like he had
final cut on that.
Marion Cotillard
and Jeremy Irons.
Also in Assassin's Creed.
No, I skipped that.
Believe it or not.
Was it because you wanted
to maintain fealty
to the video game series?
Well, she's got to get ready
for Assassin's Creed
being the only thing
that happens in her house
for 12 years.
That's a good point.
I should call Helen Mirren
and talk about that.
Just the day that you show up
with a video game console
or whatever they're called
in my home.
I actually,
I think what I'm going to do
is like leave them
in different places
and see what happens.
And I'm just going to like...
And you know now
to like bring the batteries
and all the charging packs.
Like secretly under
one of their beds
Red Dead Redemption
is just going to be
waiting for them.
Yeah. Uncle Chris left for them. Yeah.
Uncle Chris left a
present.
Yeah.
How much are you
paying for the order.
Three hundred and
twenty dollars.
So the bad news is
this film was acquired
by Vertical
Entertainment which
is I'm sure a very
wonderful company.
Does it exist anymore.
It's it's pedigree
right.
It historically
indicates very minimal if any theatrical distribution. Uh huh. wonderful company. Does it exist anymore? It's not Augur. It's Pedigree, right? It historically indicates
very minimal,
if any,
theatrical distribution.
Uh-huh.
And headed straight to
Streamola.
I think I got
a lot of the
triggers that I need.
At least,
it's as good as I can do.
You know?
This is
a world-class
weirdo lineup for me.
You picked, like, three for me. You picked like
three animated movies.
I picked two.
And two strong
Oscar contenders.
And two Cannes movies.
Despite refusing
to go to Cannes.
And of course
I have one more film
that I'm going to select.
Oh, I thought I had a Nora.
I forgot I lost that one.
Anyway, I'm fine with it, man.
I'm all good.
Are you going to let me
have the order? No, we're going to recap momentarily but I still have one more movie I have to pick. No, I know. with it, man. I'm all good. Are you going to let me have the order?
No, we're going to recap momentarily,
but I still have more movie I have to pick.
No, I know, but you're not going to bid $321 for the order?
No, I'm not interested.
You're not going to let me do an all-order episode of The Big Picture?
When does it come out?
Is it dated?
I don't know.
But I've seen photos from set, so I feel like it's well underway
and then obviously
we've already talked about it on WTF
it's as good as done
so
for $321
I'm taking Night Bitch
do you know what that is?
did you not see Night Bitch?
I haven't seen Night Bitch
hasn't Night Bitch been kind of like done for a long long time it has it's been held for a very specific reason
and i think that specific reason is the amy adams oscar campaign oh i thought you were gonna say
the election uh do you know the plot line of night bitch does a woman turn into a dog in this movie
a woman pauses her career to be a stay-at-home mom but soon her domesticity takes a woman turn into a dog in this movie? A woman pauses her career to be a stay-at-home mom, but soon her domesticity takes a surreal turn
in which she becomes the night bitch.
Now, it's interesting that I've chosen this film
as the last film in our auction
shortly after Amanda announces her pregnancy.
Yeah, I will not be coming stay-at-home mom.
I gotta be honest.
This is directed by Mariel Heller.
I've not enjoyed the films of Mariel Heller.
Black licorice filmmaker.
And Amy Adams, I'm sort of with Bill on this one, so. Whoa! Heller. I've not enjoyed the films of Meryl Heller. Yeah, Black Licorice Filmmaker. And
Amy Adams. I'm sort of
with Bill on this one, so. Whoa!
Disgusting. Disgusting act.
Except for Arrival, which I love.
Uh-huh. Shame on you.
I mean, when she's good,
she's very good. What about American Hustle? Let's
pull up. She was good. What about
The Master? And they made her cry. She was
good in that, too, but let's read the last, what, 10 films of Amy Adams?
This is a really long Wikipedia page.
You have to include the miniseries Sharp Objects into this.
Oh my God.
Aren't they just like remaking it again?
Are they?
I think so.
This is just from...
All right.
So we have Arrival in 2016, along with Batman v. Superman Dawn of Justice,
and Nocturnal Animals.
Sick.
So far, so good.
Three fucking banger movies.
Autorist Visions.
Justice League, 2017.
She signed the contract.
2018, Vice.
Yeah, very good performance.
2020, Sean's favorite Election Day movie,
Hillbillyology. Should I run it Election Day movie, Hillbillyology.
Should I run it back this November?
2021, Zack Snyder's Justice League, The Woman in the Window, and my personal favorite, Dear Evan Hansen.
Tough.
2022, Disenchanted.
Did I ever watch this?
I rewatched Enchanted in preparation for this but I don't even know
and then
I've never seen Enchanted
yeah
I mean
that's a
that's a rough run
you know
eh
I think it's
for one of our generations
greatest actors
I think her demise
is overstated
I don't think that
those movies are good
I'm not going to tell you
that they're good
I think she happens to do
a bunch of movies
that don't land for Bill
and he is
he is basically like Rico charged to do a bunch of movies that don't land for Bill and he is basically
like Rico charged her
with a bunch of small charges
and said like she doesn't deserve any of her Oscar awards.
She's got more good movies on her CV
than 95,
97% of her contemporaries.
I mean she's, catch me if you
can. You know what I mean? She's in Charlie Wilson's
War. She's in Doubt. She's in Julia
and Julia. She's in The Fighter. She's in Charlie Wilson's War. She's in Doubt. She's in Julia and Julia.
She's in The Fighter.
She's in tons of good movies.
She's in her.
She's like the small or bad half of a lot of those movies, but whatever.
I mean, that's not true, but okay.
She's the bad half of American Hustle.
She's the bad half of The Fighter.
She's the best thing in all those movies. Well, Julia and Julia.
And she's barely in Catch Me If You Can, respectfully.
Great scene.
It's a good scene
but like let's be real.
Candy Striper.
Your eyes just lit up.
Charlie Wilson.
So you took Night Pitch.
Great scene.
It's okay.
She's good in
Charlie Wilson's game.
She's good in that
but again.
She's not the best part of it.
I think there's going to be
a very very
like a Mikey Madison
versus Amy Adams showdown
at the Academy Awards, and I'm pleased to have both of their
films on the list.
We're done. Because once, as we
know, you and Chris both support
films with women. Of course I do. Look at my
lineup.
Look at my lineup. Look at yours. It's full of bros.
Wolves, Trap,
Conclave. Excuse me, Trap is
a man besmirching a female-centric space.
Okay?
So...
Pop girl summer getting in.
Why is pop music only for women?
I don't understand.
Well, he's taking his daughter,
and it's a Taylor Swift-like...
You know, everyone's welcome.
Do you think one day I will reenact Trap?
If you were forced to go to a Taylor Swift concert,
yes, I do.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Okay.
Chris, why don't you recap the films you got
and the amount of money that you paid for them?
I got The Instigators in the first round for $130.
That's the Matt Damon and Casey Affleck
Boston crime movie.
I got A Real Pain,
Jesse Eisenberg's directorial sophomore effort with Kieran Culkin. I got A Real Pain, Jesse Eisenberg's directorial sophomore effort
with Kieran Culkin.
I got Blink Twice,
which used to be known
as Pussy Island,
which is Zoe Kravitz's
directorial debut.
Let the record show
you've said both
Mannequin Pussy
and Pussy Island
on this podcast.
I just wanted to,
I'm just being honest
about what these things
are called.
Heretic,
the horror film
with Hugh Grant
playing a creepy guy
abducting Mormon women.
And The Order,
which I got for $320.
And is Justin Kurtzel's
new movie about
criminality
in a white supremacist.
I guess that's kind of redundant
to say criminality
in a white supremacist gang.
But Jude Law
plays an FBI agent.
Because you're saying
there's a criminal nature.
Sometimes it's just community effort.
Yeah.
What films did you get?
I got Conclave,
the new Edward Berger movie starring Ray Fiennes for $205.
I got Trap,
my most anticipated movie of the rest of the year for $345.
A steal, frankly.
I got Wolves,
starring Brad Pitt and George Clooney for, frankly. I got Wolves, starring Brad Pitt and George Clooney,
for $200.
I got Queer,
the Luca Guadagnino movie
that is rumored to be opening Venice.
They haven't confirmed it yet.
I want that for everyone.
Also starring Daniel Craig.
And I got Baby Girl for $5.
I got Nora for $410.
That better win Best Picture,
otherwise that's going to seem like an overpay.
I got Moana 2 for $1. I got Emilia Perez for $410. That better win Best Picture. Otherwise, that's going to seem like an overpay. I got Moana 2 for $1.
I got Emilia Perez for $150.
New Jacques Audiard film.
I got The Wild Robot for $118.
And I got Night Bitch for $321.
It would have been funny
if we could have tanked for Vineland next year.
You know, like if we could do things like that.
Movie auction in January 25
is going to be
popping.
It's going to be,
you got to come back for that.
Yeah.
That might have to be
your first pod back.
I'm going to do my best.
I mean,
some of it is in nature's hands.
As many horror movies
have taught you,
you know?
There were a number of films
that we couldn't select
because they were sequels
that I think normally
would have been selected.
You mentioned Beetlejuice.
Beetlejuice, Alien Romulus,
you know, Deadpool and Wolverine,
I still want to see it.
In fact, you will be seeing it,
as will I.
Yeah.
Horizon 2.
Horizon 2, Joker, Folia 2,
Mufasa, The Lion King.
There's a new Barry Jenkins movie
coming out this year.
Smile 2, Terrifier 3,
Venom, The Last Dance.
All of those movies
are movies we could not take this year.
Did you think about Maria?
I did and then I forgot about it
until you said Maria right now.
Vendee Pops.
Yeah.
Angelina Jolie's big comeback.
You know, that's another...
Best Actress might be
a throwdown this year.
Is that coming out close to Wolves?
It's not dated right now.
I think it's going to be
a festival movie,
probably a Venice film.
A Venice, yeah.
I mean, he was there last year as well with Alconde.
Those projects sort of have a diminishing return for me,
as you know.
Now, granted, I'm not as invested
in the legend of Maria Callas as I am in Princess Diana's.
Or I guess even Jackie Kennedy's.
I liked Jackie.
But, you know, I wonder if I've seen
this one before what do you know about um the piano lesson adaptation of the August Washington's
movie starring John David Washington Samuel L Jackson produced by Denzel Washington. Netflix film. Yep. Shot by Mike Giolucas, who I think is,
was M. Night Shyamalan
and Jordan Peele
and David Robert Mitchell
cinematographer.
Cool.
You know, he can shoot a movie.
Intrigued by that one.
Nickel Boys,
a movie you auctioned
for a long time ago.
I auctioned,
I also, I think I,
I think I got Rebel Ridge
like two, three years ago.
I don't know if that's coming out.
I thought it was.
Ash,
which is Flying Lotus'
sci-fi murder movie.
Sci-fi murder mystery.
What is the Donald Glover trailer
that premiered today?
I don't know.
It's a dystopian movie
called Bando Stone
in the New World.
Did any of you see this?
No.
It's apparently
going to be playing
in IMAX,
but it's distributed by RCA.
And I guess it's just
the movie's
like accompaniment
to his new album.
That's cool.
But it looks like
a real sci-fi movie
with real effects.
Anyway,
just putting that out there.
Presence,
the Soderbergh movie
we joked about.
Salem's Lot,
Gary Doberman
doing Stephen King.
I think that's going
to get written off.
I don't think that's
going to come out.
That was it
for the B movies.
There's one other awards contender
that we have not yet mentioned.
The Joshua Oppenheimer movie?
That was the one I was just going to mention
that nobody knows a lot about.
It's a neon movie.
I think it'll be a festival film.
And that's,
we were talking about this with Van
for an episode coming up,
but I was like,
there's going to be a movie
that we don't know about.
Because he was asking about Dune Part 2
and whether it could win Best Picture.
And the end feels like the kind of movie
that could do that.
I wonder,
do you think knowing that
Dune Messiah is coming in 26
changes the calculus
about whether people are like,
we'll wait for three
and then give it to Denis?
I mean, that's like what we were talking about.
That's literally what we were saying. Yeah. I mean, I think one of the reasons why they're not officially then give it to Dany I mean that's like what we were talking about with Van that's literally what we were saying
yeah I mean I think
one of the reasons
why they're not officially saying
that it's Dune Messiah
is so that it can have a chance
to win Best Picture
because once they say
three is here
yeah
then it gets into
Return of the King
territory
yeah
if Spider-Verse 2
can't win Best Animated Feature
because it's the second
and there's going to be
a third one coming
I think Dune will be
in a similar spot
for Best Picture
but you don't agree with that because you feel Joker fully adieu should be competing Because it's the second and there's going to be a third one coming. I think Dune will be in a similar spot for Best Picture.
But you don't agree with that because you feel Joker Folia Dew should be competing for Best Picture.
I think it might be.
Should there be three Joker films?
Is there talk of a... Oh, like, should there be three active Jokers?
Is that what you mean?
No.
Do you think they should greenlight the third Joker now?
Well, that's going to hurt its Oscar chances.
Folia Trois?
Who would be the third character?
Do we know if Barry Keoghan
is the, like,
the villain of the second,
the Batman?
Sorry, have you seen,
have you seen the meme of,
maybe not because it's
a pop girl story,
but Bobby,
do you know what I'm talking about?
And it's like,
Sabrina Carpenter,
so who's the Joker?
And it's Barry Keoghan.
So he's sort of an evil guy.
Why are you crying?
Why are you crying?
I have to go so bad.
And now you're just sobbing about Sabrina Carpenter.
It's really funny, right?
It's a good meme?
It's really funny.
Yeah, especially if you're in our particular flavor.
Okay, I'm going to find it for you.
Amanda needs to eat a sandwich, everyone.
I did.
I did bring a sandwich.
I got to eat it.
But it's a good meme.
Shout out to that meme.
Are you going to play the meme and repeat it?
No, no.
It's just text.
I just shared it with you.
You're in tears.
I know.
Okay.
This is a great podcast.
Thanks, guys.
Thanks to Lea Zanaris.
Thanks to Bobby Wagner, our producer, for his work on this podcast.
Later this week, we are talking about the best movies of 2024.
Yeah.
We'll see you then.