The Big Picture - The 2025 Movie Auction

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

Sean and Amanda are joined by Chris Ryan to draft, in auction format, some of the movies they’re most excited for this year. They review the results and the rules from last year’s two auctions before launching into this year’s slate, including some mega-blockbusters like ‘Mission: Impossible—The Final Reckoning,’ ‘Jurassic World Rebirth,’ and ‘F1,’ as well as some smaller but still exciting indies like ‘Marty Supreme’ and ‘The Phoenician Scheme.’ Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Chris Ryan Senior Producer: Bobby Wagner Video Producer: Jack Sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And this is The Big Picture, a conversation show about auctioning. Chris Ryan, CR, the big time auctioneering boy, is here with us today. It's January, which means we are auctioning once more on The Big Picture. Hi, Chris. Hi, what's going on? Not too much.

Before we began recording, you said to us, let's talk about Narnia on IMAX. The only thing I care about. Huge news. There's nothing else in the news. There's nothing else in the news. We are pivoting away from national politics today on The Big Picture to talk about theatrical distribution.

The Netflix Corporation, which famously does not like to put its movies in movie theaters, has acquiesced reportedly, according to Matt Bellamy in Puck and on The Town, to put Greta Gerwig's Narnia adaptation November 20 2026 on 1000 iMac screens for at least two weeks. Up to a month. Up to a month until it premieres on the service, I guess on Christmas day. Yeah.

Does that all sound right? Yeah. Okay, how do you feel about this? Like, I mean, you go Greta, I guess. Okay. That's cool. Yeah. Am I detecting a little Narnia cynicism on your part? Yeah. Okay.

Um, I mean, I read them, you know? There's a lion, there's a witch, there's a wardrobe. There's the three of those things. There's a closet. This is giving... What is her legend? You go into the closet to get to the other world. And it's like all about... religion and also...

It's about religion. Yeah. But it's... There are no like political ramifications. I don't really remember. Let me ask you a question. Do you fear God? Uh... Yeah, I guess so. I guess so.

He seems pretty mad at us right now. He does. He does. Things aren't going well. I thought this was an interesting thing that happened. When, in Matt's coverage of this story that has been going on for a while, he has consistently pointed to, I think the most saber-rattling, but smartest thing about this, which is what is the knockdown effect of this.

It's pretty cool that a big spectacle directed by one of the great living directors under the age of 50 gets to put a movie in movie theaters for a long period of time, especially a movie that's spectacle-oriented. You turn 40 and you're immediately just bumped into the under the age of 50 category. What about under the age of 45?

That's not really a delineation anyone cares about. You made us worship at your feet because you weren't 40 yet for such a long time and now we have to throw a parade because you're not 50. I'll tell you what, she's also under 60. So it could be worse. Just like help us out.

You know, but I was saying to Bobby, you turn 40 and the switch flips and you've got to do resistance training. I know. But are you doing it? Resistance training? Yeah, how is your mountain training going? I haven't done that stuff.

I, let's just say I had a self-indulgent Christmas and it's bled into dry January. Are you still subscribing to Mountain Viewing or are you... Do you pause your subscription? I still have a subscription to that. Okay, that's good. Yeah. Talk to me a little bit about the precedent setting stuff. Do you think it really matters?

I don't know. Will Kathryn Bigelow be like, what about my Missile Strike movie? It's possible, but she has less leverage. If I was Rian Johnson, I'd be pretty fucking pissed about this. You know, he only got to put Knives Out 2 in theaters for five days. He only got a quarter of a billion dollars. And that movie clearly would have made like $200 million at least, if it had played in movie theaters,

because a ton of people watched it and loved the original. Yeah. So... That was just okay. It doesn't matter. I know. Like, that's not really the point. Like, look at the top ten highest-grossing movies of the year. Maybe it matters to me.

Well, it's nice that you have a standard, but this is a business conversation. No one gives a shit what you think about the movie. Great. I'm so glad that we just all put on our CEO hats this morning. Well, it's relevant to what we do here. Yeah, it's my CEO hat. That's right. You and Phil Knight, two of the great leaders in this space. I don't know what the precedent is. I don't know. I don't even know what kind of movies Netflix wants to make.

This feels like the last kind of a movie that they would want to make given this new regime. They have new leadership in the movie studio. What is the point of making $300 million movies if you're Netflix when the same number of people will watch a $20 million movie? You know, Hot Frosty, how many fucking people watch that movie? It was made for whatever's in the back of my pocket right now.

You know, like it's just like... You do hold a lot of cash though. I do, I do. That was not an insult. Yeah. I'm holding roughly 800 grand in my back pocket at the moment, which is why I have back problems, which we learned some years ago. Don't put your wallet in your back pocket.

Yeah. Because it creates an imbalance in your spine. Don't do that if you also plan on being on your computer 14 hours a day. Absolutely. If you are born with this posture, which I came out of the womb holding, not a good idea to put your wallet in your back pocket. Nevertheless, I just think it's weird that they still make these huge movies.

Well, when did they agree to do this? I mean, it's like this has been... It was being negotiated pre-Barbie release. Right. And then I think it got, my understanding is, is it got kind of jet streamed after the mega success. Yeah. Right. But I think even that, my understanding is, is it got kind of jet streamed after the mega success. Yeah. Right, but I think even, that is 18 months ago now.

Yeah. Would you agree, like does 18 months, like now would they agree to it? Like a giant Greta Gerwig. It's a good question. You know, I think things have changed so much even in 18 months. That's a really good point.

And their strategy. I never thought about that. You know, but so if you're gonna do it, you might as well make money off of it, I guess? Yeah, I guess they don't... In the past, they have not valued that dollar in the same way and they've created this insistence on everything being under the umbrella. And like the way that they're going now between WWE, the NFL on Christmas, the Tyson fight, the way that the streamer is programming, it's just television.

It's television and it's must see moments. And so it's not as must see if you're putting a movie in IMAX on a thousand screens out, you know, externally, I guess. Well, but if you're programming television, then you're essentially imagining yourself as the cable company. And so you add value to the thing that you make in theaters before you have it exclusively at home. Right.

I mean, I agree that that seems like... That sounds like peacock. ...you gotta spend more money to make money, and that has not historically, since the correction, been their, uh, their MO. They wanna spend less money to make the money that they have because they can. Yeah.

But I don't know. Perhaps they know that all the kids on Red Note are talking about how Aslon is snatched, and they just know that that's, like, really viable. Is Aslan one of the characters from Narnia? Yeah, he's lying. I haven't read the Chronicles of Narnia. I actually was hoping to read it to my daughter.

Oh, that's nice. It's just, like, an activity. I bought it for her before she was born. But I've never read it. That joke failed on, like, three levels then. Aslan, I was like, what? Also, Red Note, I hear you talking about it. I was gonna ask you about, are you gonna get into it?

No. So this is on, okay, we're recording in advance, everyone. TikTok has been banned by the Supreme Court. Well, has it? Well, when we're recording, it has been, yeah, but... This is up there with Hawk Tooh. Yeah, I mean, what do you think? Well, this is only two days in advance of release

as opposed to six months. As opposed to four months. Hawk Tooh is on Red Note talking about Narnia. Is that true? I don't know. Can you explain something to me? What is Red Note? Red Note is like the Chinese, like, in China TikTok.

And now all the TikTok people are apparently signing up for Red Note and getting like, you know, they're just like... Everyone wants to buckle at the teat of Big China. Interesting. Will you be joining Red Note? I'm letting go of TikTok, you know, even though I do, I feel like it's gonna be saved. Okay. Last minute.

Saved. As though we're a kitten ready to be drowned. Relax. Okay. We don't need to save our platforms. It's okay. They can go away. I mean, we don't either. I'm, you know, I'm letting it go. I'm still on Instagram. Yeah.

Mark Zuckerberg is cozying up to the interests once again. So I guess it'll stick around for a while and I can keep, you know... If only there were a film about that. Not knowing how to use Reels and that'll be cool. Have you ever uploaded anything to Reels? No, not on purpose. Ha ha ha. Cool. It's intriguing. I don't know, the Narnia thing, I think if you think about it from the context of the

big picture and the movie obsessives, it seems like, oh, what do the precedent mean? Why didn't they do this for other movies? We can have that conversation. If you think about it from the WWE Tyson fight perspective, it's just an event. And it's just the standalone thing. And your point about not spending money, it's like, they're not spending money on everything below the top 2%, but the top 2% they're still spending a ton of money on and seems smart. I don't know. Those guys are smart.

They know what they're doing. They have completely destroyed the industry that I have built my entire life around, but they have done an amazing job of making it feel like their service is the most essential entertainment commodity in the universe, and they won. Yeah, good job to them. Okay, I mean, that's interesting relative to the auction here because I wonder how many Netflix movies

will be auctioned. You jumped right into the thing that I wanted to talk to you about. Wow, Segway Kings. One of my favorite elements of this is now your triggers. will be auctioned. You jumped right into the thing that I wanted to talk to you about. Because you have... Segue kings. One of my favorite elements of this is now your triggers. I love, like, all the little, like, rules so that we can actually judge whether the auction was successful or not, aside from my very equal distribution of funds.

Yeah, I have some issues there as well, which we can talk about. I allocated perhaps too much to certain titles last year. I think there should be probably a penalty at a certain point if like you paid $350 for something that made $10 million. Okay, that's interesting. But we can get to that in the second half of the year. I did notice while going through the list of things that have been announced or at least heavily rumored for this year,

how much of it was Netflix? And how do we evaluate the box office for something that is a Netflix film? Should it be a, does it go to number one on Netflix kind of a thing? Okay, but like we've seen what's on that chart, right? Well, that does add an intriguing wrinkle to the kind of movie you might want to auction.

I think, you know, a lot of times when we're doing the drafts and the auctions, the feedback is always like, just draft the movie you like the most. And I'm like, we're playing a game. The whole point of this is for it to be a game. The triggers are part of a game. It's not meant to be like,

we get to say what we actually like in every other episode of the show. So to me in the gamified respect, trying to choose which Netflix movie will go to number one is a weird game to try to win. So I don't know. I mean, it's a good point that you're making. I don't know that I have any Netflix movies

at the top of my auctioning list, though, with the exception of the one we mentioned at the end of last week's last episode. Correct. The Noel Bomback movie. Right. I need them to rename that movie because I can't remember the name of it.

I'm getting confused with Jay Feely, the field goal kicker. Sure. And Jay Kelly is just too close to Jay Feely. Would Bomback get a month in IMAX if he had a Jay Feely, the field goal kicker. Sure. And Jay Kelly is just too close to Jay Feely. Would Bomback get a month in IMAX if he had a Jay Feely biography? Not the worst idea in the world for Bomback to do a sports dramedy. If you've never heard a movie auction before, I'll give you a brief outline of the rules, and then we'll talk about how we did last year

with our two sets of auctions. So each bidder gets $1,000 of fake money to bid on these movies. Each film on our slate must have a 20, 25 release date or an almost certain expectation of release in this calendar year. Our slates must total five movies for this episode, five movies for the next episode we do in July. Bidders open with each new title in a snake fashion will determine the order shortly.

You have 30 seconds to make a new bid before the movie goes to the current bid holder, which we never hold to. Movies that were previously auctioned off last year are once again eligible for future auctions. We have a clock in studio now. Oh, we do. I mean, is it too, like, how can we reset it? Can we have Jack running it?

Hi, Jack. I would press the on button. Oh, I've heard of it. Do you think you can do it? Can you set it up now? I'm coming right now, yeah. Yeah, Jack. I would press the on button. Oh, I've heard of it. Do you think you can do it? Can you set it up? I'm coming right now, yeah. Yeah, come on in. Let's do it.

This is podcasting, baby. Okay. Putting the clock on is gonna really reveal to you how lenient I have been over the years with the clock. I know. Can we put the clock in a way that everyone can see it? You know what I mean? Okay.

This is exciting. Well, let's talk about those category triggers that Chris cited. For anybody who doesn't remember from last year, we did add a bunch. To determine a winner and make yourself eligible for a win. Now, I don't know how we determine the winner after we go through the triggers, but the triggers that I set were at least two of your ten films must gross $100 million domestically. At least one film must receive at least two Oscar nominations. Now, we haven't yet heard the Oscar nominations,

but pretty good idea on a few of these. At least one of your films must hit an 85 Meta score on Metacritic. I did note that only 13 films hit that number in the US in 2023. I don't know how many did it in 2024. We could look that up. And then no more than two sequels. And I want to give us credit for what we did last time,

because last year was a very sequel heavy year. In fact, a lot of original stuff got pushed out of the slate in 2024. And we did pretty well by that. Everyone abided by the sequel rule. Now, do you want to individually recap how we did? Who wants to go first? Chris, do you want to go first? Sure. I did Dune Part II. I spent $243 on that.

It cost $100 million at the box office. It was a sequel. We live in time for $375 and did Zilch. Wait, did you see that movie? No. Do you have to see the movie if you've actually been? No, I'm just curious, because I want to talk to someone about it. But that should also be a penalty if you don't, if you actually wind up not seeing it.

I mean, it did give us the Andrew Garfield revival of 2024 into 2025. A remarkable press tour concluding in the David Yehrman pendant on the Golden Globes. Yes. I'm well aware of that part. Has that been replaying a lot in your home? Not on my algorithm. Phoebe is away.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gladiator II, 380 bucks. Across 100 million dollars at the box office, it was a sequel. Speak No Evil for a dollar, did nothing. Horizon and American Saga for a dollar. It's the number one movie on Netflix for a while. That is true. Then I had in the American Saga for a dollar. It was the number one movie on Netflix for a while. That is true. Then I had in the second auction,

The Instigators for 130 bucks. It was an Apple movie and did nothing. A Real Pain, $200. Two Academy Award nominations and an 86 Metacritic score. Congratulations to you. That was a good pick. I don't remember you taking that. Yeah. Blink Twice for 50 bucks. Heretic for $300.

Could get a Hugh Grant nomination out of that, I guess, but probably not. And The Order for $320. Which is the most Chris Ryan thing. But I actually love that movie. Yeah, you're speaking your truths. I feel like with a different studio, that movie would have made more money at the box office, too. Everybody I talked to who's seen The Order really liked it.

Obviously, it's a lot of guys who are like, I'm into movies like The Order, but they did all like The Order. I put it on my list at some point. To watch at some point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That could get dangerous if it's a bunch of guys being like, I really like The Order. That is dangerous. In fact, I think that's what that film is about. Um, okay. You want me to go?

I'll go. Okay, Amanda, you go. Okay, so first I got Challengers for $150, which in some ways is the fucking deal of the century, and also met none of the things, including the Medic Critics score, which I, like, I object, you know? Like, I just, I think that's fucked up and critics need to look inside themselves. It could still get two Oscar nominations

if it gets Screenplay and Score, right? It could. That is true. Okay, so that would be nice. Uh, I got Maxine for 75 bucks, which was a sequel sequel and I guess was funny to everyone. And I saw Maxine. I watched it on a plane. Yeah. I bet you did. You know what?

That's where they filmed a lot of Psycho. Where? How did you navigate? The giant Bates Motel sign. Anyway, got Blitz for $385, which is, did nothing and bad on its own. And also I think I could have re-bought it for less. So listen, like when you fuck up, you fuck up. And I fucked up.

Twisters for $350. Sequel and across $100 million box office. Thank you so much. And then I got The Bike Riders for $40, which is a film I enjoyed. So that worked out for me. Then Conclave for $205. Good get. We'll get two Oscar nominations. Thanks so much.

Trap for $345. Listen, everyone else let me down. Um... The Metacritic score on this movie is not good. Well, I think that this could have made money, but people just don't have this, their strength of their convictions were an open mind, and that's their loss.

Interesting how you framed that. Uh, wolves? Everyone let me down, and everyone let, uh, what John Watts down, according to him, I guess. Yeah. We should just do a pod where you just go down the box office receipts for every single film release.

And say, let me down. But place where the blame lies. Yeah. That's Amanda's YouTube response to the syllabi. She just does that and says straight into the camera. Miklos Janskos, the roundup, you let me down. Hungary, let me down. Queer for $225. I let myself down on this just because I haven't seen it yet.

It also could get an Oscar nom. It could get an Oscar nom. And listen, I stand by Luca Guadagnino. I enjoy the work of Justin Kuritsky. I enjoy the work of Daniel Craig. I enjoy Mexico City, though I'm told they didn't actually film there. No, it was filmed in Italy. Well, I like...

Cina Citta. Well, I like Cina Citta too. And then I got Baby Girl for $5. That was good. I mean, that was good, but like the critics aren't helping me and the public is slacking on its duty to go see box office sensations, like Trap.

Yes, so sadly you are missing one $100 million domestic earner and you're also missing an 85 Medicare credit. But like, I don't acknowledge the second one, you know? Like, I'm sorry. Sadly, you must. You don't acknowledge the second one what? I don't acknowledge, yeah.

Okay. I just like, that's actually bullshit. Okay. And I'm creating my own world. Specifically because of- Listen, this is Monday, January 20th. That's allowed now. So- Okay, my- By the January 20th. That's allowed now. So...

Okay, my line up... By the way, it's 26 movies in 2024 that hit 85 or higher on Medicare. 26. What? Read them. So double on 2023. Read them. And I'll just give you a yes or no of whether they deserve it.

Oh, dear God. Oh, my God. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Daughters, the wild robot. I haven't seen them. What's Daughters? It's a diamond. Close your eyes. The seed of the wild robot. I haven't seen him. What's the diamond? Close your eyes. The seed of the sacred fig.

Dahomey, a real pain. I saw the TV glow. It doesn't know. Wait, keep going. Challengers doesn't get it and a real pain does. Okay, keep going. Why are you so mad at a real pain? I'm not the critics.

Flow, good one. Pictures of ghosts, hard truths, about dry grasses, the brutalist, green border, sugar cane, no other land, La Quimera, Anora, totem, soundtrack to a coup d'etat, Ryuchi Sakamoto, opus, Nickel Boy is here. Here coming in at number four, Sean, you're big up. No, not that here. Boss Devo's is here, not Roberts and Mecha's is here. Here coming in at number four, Sean, you're big up. No, not that here. Boss Devo is here, not Robinson Mechis is here. All we imagine is light inside the yellow cocoon shell and do not expect too much from the end of the world.

Okay. Now the thing is, the challenge of this category, specifically, or this trigger, I should say, is that very few of those movies got a wide release, which means that they had fewer reviews. And in fact, they're basically mostly art house films, international films, and documentaries. So this trigger means you need to identify.

A small art house film. No, no, no, no, no. To me, it's about identifying the film that will kind of triangulate a lot of these things. Like I'll give you an example. I picked a Nora after it won the POM door, having a strong feeling that it would do that and in fact, it has a 91 Metacritic score. So...

Did we, we did our auction... I picked challengers having like a core belief system and most of the world agreed with it. Uh-huh. And... The way that you talk is why the crusades happened. I just want you to know that. Like this, this intractability around your own bones.

Edward Norton in Kingdom of Heaven. Just being like... Uh, okay, here's my lineup. For the first auction, I got Hitman for $275. Film simply did not open in a box office. Uh, I selected Mickey 17 for $3, not released. Now, should there be a penalty for that is also a question

We've talked about in the past Furiosa a Mad Max saga for three hundred and seventy five dollars. That is a sequel Megalopolis for three hundred and forty five dollars Nothing there Nosferatu for one dollar now that may turn out to be the steel of the draft if it gets to $100 million domestic, which it might. I think it's at $86 million right now, so it's possible it gets to $100. Okay, so now I can't go see it in theaters. Because you don't want to give it away. Yeah.

Fuck. Well, I already hit all the triggers. It doesn't matter because I did hit the other triggers. But the second auction is where I hit all the spots. Yeah, but at what cost? Well, this isn't my best lineup. I'm going to share it with you right now. Enora for $410.91.

So did we do the auction after Cannes last year? We did. Yeah, because in Cannes in May, we do the auction in like the first week of July. Oh, I see. So that's something to think about as we go to the next one too is sort of like, do we get more aggressive in the second half of the year?

In addition to that, Moana 2, I got for $1, which in a way is a good grab because it was a sequel, but it crossed $100 million quite easily. Emilia Perez for $150. I'd not seen the film at the time. It was acclaimed out of Cannes. It will garner two Oscar nominations, so it helps me. Really not a movie I love, so that's tough.

The Wild Robot, which did cross $100 million domestic, and as Bob mentioned, also had an 85 Metacritic score. And then Night Bitch for $321, which is a movie that I have affection for, but did not hit any of the categories. I've thought about it since I saw it. Yeah. Yeah. I... Yeah, I mean... It's too bad we missed out on a chance to really dig into that one.

That would have been an interesting discussion for us, especially at this stage of your life. So I did hit the triggers, Chris did hit the triggers, Amanda did not. Where do we go from here? What do you mean, where do we go from here? Do we post it on Red Note? Like, what's the move? Oh, like, what's the award?

Yeah, who wins? Um, that's a really great question. Should we, should we, should we sweeten it? Should we, should we throw like a loser buys dinner kind of thing? Not this year because you didn't know you may have drafted differently. That's fine. I can buy you dinner. I'm a working woman. Which is the sequel to the Jason Statham film coming in March. Working woman. She's just going around buying guys dinner.

Saying thank you for your podcast. I've gotten so much joy out of the watch, I just have to take you to get a steak. Oh, I've seen men make that offer to you in the past. A lot of guys looking longingly into your eyes. Buying dinner, I think, is a good way to go. Now, do we get to choose where we eat? Yes, the winners do.

Okay. Yeah. I mean, I think that's only fair. Where would you like to go Jumbo's clown room? In a manner of speaking yeah, I Think they do actually I've not been to Jumbo's before. Yeah, have you been uh, no close your house. Yeah, it's nearby You know, it would be a nice gesture Cheetahs is right by my house, too But I think that's close cheetahs you and I almost walked into a couple times in the past.

We never actually did it. Where it was real like, do you think the guy with the amstel light in there? You know, like just trawling around Hollywood Boulevard. Cheetahs is still open? I can't tell. Yeah, it's the building is still there and the sign is still there. You been in there? No, I haven't. I've walked by, parked in front of it many times.

For Cabela? I went to therapy in a building between Che You went to therapy in Cheetahs? ...at home state many times. So has many men. Many, many men have entered that therapy building. One of those apartment-looking buildings is actually like an office building, and my therapist's office was there for a long time. That's cool. You know.

Doing double duty? Day shift, night shift, next door? I didn't ask, you know? Like the way therapy works is that it's like the... That office is the boundary, you know? What happens outside. Oh, have you ever seen your therapist that like sprouts or anything? Um, no. I know that there's a discussion often with a therapist. It's sort of like, if you see me, you may acknowledge me or you may not.

This is your choice. Right, right, right. Um, my New York therapist once asked if we ran into each other at the beach, if she would be comfortable, if I would be comfortable with her saying hello and introducing herself to Zach. And I, she's awesome. Sylvia, I love you forever. So I said yes, but we had to ask.

Did she come up and be like, I know all about you. We never saw her. This one, am I right? We should, perhaps in David Lynch's honor, we should have dinner at Bob's Big Boy. That's... You know what I thought about going last night? Too much of a scene. Too much of a scene. There was a lot of flowers and things that were there for him. Yeah, yeah, a lot of people left stuff behind us online.

Um... I'm sorry. My instinct is to close it. It's like an intimidation tactic, you know? It's like when a sheriff walks into a saloon and he reveals his holster. Yeah, exactly. It's the water bottle that pushed me over the edge. Uh... Okay. So, I guess we'll post this online

and people will say whether Chris or I won. Yeah. I mean, there are some basic... I don't know what else we could do. We could let Bob decide who had a better slate. Well... That's subjective. Are there any... Like, who met more of the markers?

You know? Do Sean and I equally meet markers? I think I have two films that crossed 85, but that wasn't a parameter to have more, necessarily. What's your second 85? The Wild Robot. Oh, that's right. The Wild Robot to me is a kind of movie that you're like,

not because it's animated, I'm not making a bit out of it. Like, that's kind of what I'm getting at, where it's like, that's a. The Wild Robot to me is the kind of movie that you're like, not because it's animated, I'm not making a bit out of it. Like, that's kind of what I'm getting at, where it's like, that's a movie that could potentially hit. It's in all likelihood, it's going to get animated feature and it could get score as well. And so it could have two Oscar nominations, $100 million at the box office, plus an 85 Metacritic score. That's very difficult to accomplish.

I would wager a guess that, is it possible this is the only movie that will do that? Okay. You know what I'm saying? You might be right. I'm thinking about this differently now. You've changed my psychology. Okay. Yeah.

That's great. That was part of the idea with the triggers. I was like, these are getting too bland. Well, it's also just like, let's not repeat anticipated movies. Let's try to like hit these. Exactly. All right. Let's try to like hit these. Exactly. Alright, let's try this. Okay.

Bobby, do you want to help us set the snake draft auctioning order? Yes, of course. Less consequential here, who actually comes out on top, but it still matters. Amanda, we will have you nominate first. Okay. Intriguing. And nominating second. Oh, we got Amanda again. Stay winning. It's my year. It will be Chris. Do you feel like it is your year? You know, Sean, I really don't. You don't? You don't think so? I had one day back at work before things really went chaotic again.

So listen, it's, I mean, I'm not complaining. Like, seriously, I'm not. We're incredibly lucky, but like, I mean, so far, the evidence would suggest. What would have to happen for it to be your year? Should have to be red-pilled. Yes. Yeah. Really into the Ninja Creamy red-pilled. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, really into the ninja cream you read it at that point.

Yeah. I mean, I just like, what am I supposed to make of it besides ice cream? You know, like I looked, but then I- I think it's like what you're putting into the ice cream. It's like how much protein powder can you put in there? You really want one, why? I like ice cream.

I like the experience of eating ice cream, but I'm really sensitive to too sweet, like too much sweets. I just have kind of like a weak stomach for that. So it's not from a macro boy's perspective. Well, it is from a macro boy's because then I could kind of control better for what actually goes into it, you know?

Okay. Yeah, but when I read it, it's just like they're putting in 45 different powders. Yeah. Yeah. And as we heard, protein powder has a lot. And at some point, I'm like, is maybe the sugar is just better for me than this concoction of whatever.

Of whey. I think it depends on what you're putting into it. I think a lot of people are going like Greek yogurt as well. Yeah, I know it's true. And some people are like using it for fruit and you can make sorbets and stuff. Sorbets are not for Amanda, but anyway. All the macro boys are like, I eat 72 ounces of egg whites every day and I'm like, I don't think I can do that. Well, because you're supposed to have a gram of protein for every pound of your body weight.

Correct. If you're... And I do that. Like, if you're like, trying to... If you're trying to get gains. If you're just being a woman. Yeah, thank you. I mean, but it's more. I'll tell you. You're supposed to get,. If you're just being a woman. Yeah, thank you.

I mean, but it's more, I'll tell you. That's another feature. You're supposed to get, is it two thirds of your body weight? Yeah, I think it depends on what your fitness goals are, but that's usually a good benchmark. Which is a lot. I know, I know. That's why I'm half chicken right now.

Yeah, I mean, I had to throw out a lot of Greek yogurt last week. So you're up first. Yeah, you have to put me up. You know what? Last week. So you're up first. Oh, that's right. You know what? I think I'm going to keep it pure and simple and build a sense of community here at the table until we take it all away. And I'm just going to do Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning. A hundred bucks.

I think that's the right way to start. Can we start at the clock? Or should we just like look at it and get a sense of it? I have a timer here. Um, I can just get my phone and we'll do the timer. You're promoting both Nike and Apple today. It's amazing how you've been really two of the biggest corporations in America somehow working in unison on a person.

I was actually self-conscious about that, so thanks for pointing it out. I didn't know. So when I came to Alice's second birthday, I believe it was... The clock is running. A hundred bucks. He was about to tell a touching story of being involved in my life.

That was 30 seconds according to the clock. So do I get it? No, you don't. Hold on. Okay. Well... I'm just saying. I tried to tell you guys that this is not how it's been working. A hundred and twenty dollars. Okay. So Alice's second birthday.

One twenty-five. And I wore Nikes with Adidas socks and Mallory made fun of me mercilessly for like 20 minutes. And I actually did broadcast to her that it wasn't really that fun for me to hear from her. You said it was hurtful. I was just like, it's like a hundred degrees. We're at a child's birthday party. I grabbed a pair of socks and a different pair of sneakers.

Like nobody cares. And she's pair of socks and a different pair of sneakers. Like, nobody cares. And she's like, that is a huge foul. What if you broke a cardinal rule of street wear? The auction is 125 right now, by the way. And I was like, I got very self-conscious about it. But then as I walked out the door today, I was like, man, I am a little Nike'd up. Yeah.

I mean, is there something wrong with it? No. No. Are you a slave to capitalism? You are. Well, I got this hat because Tommy Fleetwood wore it. I thought it might bring me good luck. The golfer Tommy Fleetwood. Oh, okay.

Who is it? We're at 125. Do you? No, I have 130 for me. 150. Nike's don't fit my feet. Sounds like a you problem. I mean, it is a me problem, but I'm just putting it out there for people who might feel excluded by this, you know? Like a big Nike fan.

This kind of circles back to our deep, how do you know if you have beautiful feet conversation? But, yeah, but I mean, this, I at least know that it's like a tobetclub. Just kind of circles back to our deep, how do you know if you have beautiful feet conversation? But, yeah, but I mean, this, I at least know that it's like a toe bet. What did you say? 155. I'll say 200. Oh, OK.

205. It's like, yeah, it's about the width or the narrowness and the toe bet. And I think there's also like a slant issue. I mean, I don't know. It's just not working for me. I'm sorry. It's too bad. I like asexs and I recently have gotten into New Balances

with the rest of my family. Can I tell you a story? Just yesterday, I acquired my first pair of Reeboks in my entire life. Oh, I like that for you. Just the classic all-white tennis shoe. Yeah, those are cool. The Club 80.

Yes, exactly. Whatever they're called. I've been thinking about what's basically like Euro Reeboks, which are called Autres. You guys know about those? 215. Yeah, I don't. No. Okay. No. I'm very interested though.

Yeah, okay. They're like big in France. Oh. But they're like quoting... You know, it's like France's idea of America. Oh, yeah, sure. Although I think they are American. I don't really know. I just... This is what I do for fun. Sort of the's idea of America. Oh, yeah, sure. Although I think they are American. I don't really know.

I just, this is what I do for fun. Sort of the Amelia Perez. Two-fifteen, two-fifty. Oh, okay. Two-fifty. Where are you at on Mission Impossible, Dead Reckoning Part II? I was like, I'm very excited for it.

As I am for any Mission Impossible film. Macquarie coming out and saying they screened a bit of it and the guy at the theater that they screened it at almost had a heart attack because of one of the stunts got me a little bit more hype. Okay, just a little. I'm worried that too much of it will be like saying goodbye to Ethan and all he's given us.

And that's just not really why I go to those movies. Did you say 255 yet? No. 255. Do you think that they should replace Ethan with Barack Obama in the next film? Seems like he wants to get kind of more in that world. Yeah. And he might have some time.

A lot of rumors about what's going to happen to him. You didn't realize? I didn't know that's who you were talking about. Yeah. I mean, we'll see. Because of the potential drama going on there? Why are you not saying Michelle Obama? Well, it's like, you know, I don't know when we're allowed to, because I'm not reporting, you know?

No one thinks you're reporting on the marriage of the former president of the United States on the big picture. Well, at some point, there's just, there are legal issues, you know? You think that Michelle Obama, after everything that she's gone through over the last 12 years would sue you 275 okay

Um, I hope not. Yeah, I hope you know and I'm also trying to respect their privacy. I'm just saying if Well, all I all I would say and again, this is like we're podcasting in the future, 280 by the way, if I had an announcement of that caliber to make, I counterintuitively might make it right before the inauguration in order to divert attention from someone. Yep. Okay. Just personally. Little do you know, it will appear as a stinger at the end of the final reckoning

is the announcement of the dissolution of their marriage after many years and two beautiful children. Yeah, we're in a great place right now. So we're at 280. 80? Where are you at? I'll go three just to see where you guys are at with this. This is an interesting one, right?

This one's gonna cross 100 million almost certainly. Yeah. Um, it could get a couple below the line nominations. You could see, like, visual effects, sound, stuff like that for Mission Impossible movies. It has happened before. So it's got some value in a couple different categories. Plus, we love these movies.

This is one of the big events of the movie year for the three of us, so... I'll say 315. OK. Say 330. I would not describe this as a sequel-rich landscape this year. Mm-hmm.

Mm. So that's worth keeping in mind. You don't need a sequel. I know. I'm just saying, if you were going to get one, there's a ceiling on the number. There's a cap on it. Yeah.

What are we at, 330? Did you say that? I did. I'll say 340. Okay. I'm interested in this film. I'd like to see it. Yeah, me too.

Has the box office been lightly declining on these films? Yes. Fall out. Bit of a parabola. Charts. Because the last one was down relative to the previous film, which was I think a bit up. But it was also the last one was like a week or two before Barbenheimer. Oh, that's right. And so... It got kicked off IMAX, right?

It got kicked off IMAX. And also I think the promo tour really got subsumed by the Barbenheimer marketing, which was just going full all summer long. Mission Impossible Fallout in America was the highest grossing Mission Impossible film. Oh, okay. So good. The...

Dead Reckoning was the sixth highest. So they initially presented this as... What number are we at? 330? 340. 340? Yeah. I said 340. 345. 350. 355. I just want to say that they presented this as Dead Reckoning part one and now it's just the final reckoning right? Correct. Okay. But that's because the same reason that one of the other signature sequels of 2025 will be Wicked, Colon, For Good, not Wicked, Part Two.

This is something in the culture that we no longer want. Wait, didn't we watch Dead Reckoning already? Part One, yes. And so what's- It was called Part One, then they just called it Dead Reckoning, and now it's the final reckoning. Correct.

Oh, okay. They took the Part One off the title retroactively. I'm out, I'm out. Right, right, right. You're out. What is it, what did you do? Did I say 350? 355 you have.

355. 360. 360. 365. 370. This is not a parlor game. I want this movie. I'm just saying, sometimes we play a game, you know, and we're like, you did this, you did this, you know, 375? 380.

390. Should we just like... Settle on a number? Yeah. You can have it. Really? At 390. Yeah, because you know what?

That's really nice. You believe in the whole weird AI plotline more than I do, and you believe in underwater stunts more than I do, and you believe in... What's it called? The cruciform key. There we go. Yeah, there we go. Two keys interlock to create one key.

Yeah. Are they adding anyone to the mix? Which is definitely how all submarines are run. And also all AI. You know, cruciform keys. Gemini is run by two keys and I have one of them. I don't really know if there's any, someone named Mariella Garriga has been added to the cast.

She plays Marie. Oh, Hannah Waddingham from Ted Lasso. She's kind of a fit. That's cool. OK. She's kind of a fit for this. Is it my turn to nominate? Yeah, you go second.

Yes, you're up, Chris. Sinners. Interesting. Michael B. Jordan playing twin vampires. Are they vampires or vampire hunters? I don't know. I don't care. It's going to be incredible.

Ryan Coogler is back with an original film about vamps in the south. And I'm going to... Well, I have a question for you. Are you sure that this is not a Dracula story? Because you famously said on our Nosferatu episode, in on vampires, out on Dracula. That you're going to see my passion for this project, and that's because I stand by what I said

on the Nosferatu podcast. OK. But what if at the end of the movie, they're like, the reason we got vampires in this town is because of Vlad the Impaler? If it's at the end of the movie, that's great. If the movie is about a Dracula looking for real estate

in Europe, then I'm gonna be fucking pissed. He has twin real estate agents. Yes. Okay, spoilers for Nostra 2, I guess. Now, I am breaking a rule. I don't like it when an actor plays twins. I don't like it. Why is that?

I just think it's stupid. I think there's plenty, like you have brothers, have non-identical twins, the idea of an actor, and it's stupid. I think there's plenty like you have brothers have non-identical twins the idea of an actor And it's always like over-the-shoulder body double and then it's like oh hey And then there will be like one cool like we're hugging, but it's like how much CGI do you have to do? Just make it a different guy Have you seen Nancy Meyers is the parent trap yet? No Starring Lindsay Lohan. I know who's in it. And aren't they making it again now?

I just, I thought that Kaia... It's a sequel. Freaky Friday they're making again. What are they making again? Freakier Friday? Freakier Friday. That is a 2025 release. Will Jamie Lee Curtis win her third consecutive Oscar

for that film? Yup. A run unlike we've ever seen. Shades of Catherine Hepburn. If JLC wins three straight Oscars, will you stop doing awards watch on The Big Picture? I will cancel the show. And if you got three straight, right? Who won?

It would be everything. Everywhere. And then last year, somebody else won. I was Emily Blunt for her performance in Oppenheimer. Oh. Yeah. I forget who won supporting actress last year. But The Brutalist, that's not the same character at all, right? Because it complicates it.

Right? You haven't seen the movie. Yeah. I know. You'll have to see it. Not my fault. So for Sinners, I'm going to open the bidding at $180. Oh, wow.

Okay. $190. I'm very interested in this movie. I'm very interested in it too. That's cool. I think it's going to be like a real program. I'm interested, but I'm not going to get in the mix with you guys. Like one thing I like about what I've seen so far is it's it's it's just a genre movie

Yeah, it's not like this is a movie about America and the tale we tell each other No, this is a movie about stabbing vampires in the eye. Yeah, like that's what I want this movie to be I want to be Michael G Michael B Jordan wrecking shop. Yeah, and some motherfucking vampire and that's why I'm doing 210 220 you're out on this. I'm not out on it, but I don't know if I'm bidding 210. 220. You're out on this? I'm not out on it, but I don't know if I'm gonna, like, get in the mix with you guys. I'm excited. I mean, one thing I'll say, just to, for the, in the interest of discussion, why you guys are bidding.

So, Michael B. Jordan playing two different characters. You know, some performances are incredible and some performances sometimes feel a little miscast. So if there are two, is he gonna be cast correctly for both of them? I'm just putting him out there. But where Michael B. Jordan falls, Hailee Steinfeld will carry him. Okay, there we go.

What a run for her, you know? I think this... The press tour for this, rolling right after her Super Bowl victory Yes, will be very very interesting to me. I think I'm picking the Bills to win the Super Bowl by the way Oh, okay. This is being recorded before Bills Ravens. Before Bills Ravens. All of Bills Nation thanks you for you jinxing them. Something going on with Josh. Are they getting married? Are they engaged? They're engaged, yeah. Oh, congratulations. Yeah, 220, is that what we're at?

220, yeah. I'll do 235. I'm just going to Google this. 240. Haley Steinfeld, Josh Allen engaged. Now, interesting conversation is, do we think this is going to make $100 million? They got engaged in November. A big genre movie like this, I can't imagine it, crossing the Metacritic.

Oh, no. Now I'm seeing the engagement photo. Um, no, so there's like a whole... A roomie for oneself over here. What? He proposed to her in like the two pictures. Yeah, with like 4,000 candles, like a seaside vista, and like a rose arch. Um... Wish I did that.

Me too, it looks nice. Yeah. Okay. Wish someone loved me like that. Seriously. Do you? Um... Wish I did that. Me too. It looks nice. Yeah. Okay. Wish someone loved me like that. Seriously. Do you?

Um... They seem like nice people. I don't really have any notes on that. No, this is like, it's just like a little... I don't know, like photo, you know, professional photos. Like I get nervous. I know. No one's ever done a professional photo op for their engagement.

This is incredible. What? This is so common now. Everybody does this now. I know. But I'm like, this is just very, um... This would make me... I said 250. Yep.

This would make me anxious. That's all. 260. 270. I don't think it's gonna cross 100 million. I think it's just gonna be a sick movie. Yeah. That's gonna do okay. But we don't... We... You know, for better or for worse,

we are not high-fiving each other because it's a sick movie, right? Yeah. You've kind of... Maybe your triggers have kind of put us in a place. For better or worse, I've destroyed my closest friendships by making everything a game. It is what it is. Should we share?

Yeah. There are a series of linguistic phrases that men and only men use. Uh-huh. And these phrases indicate an insecure and weak soul. And if you hear me using them or you hear Chris using them, you can call us. Smack us in the, slap us, flame the face. Where is this coming from?

It's a theory I've been working on. One of those phrases- This isn't like the photo things with like the lines. Like this isn't an internet thing. This is not original. No, it's something I came up with. Yeah. Well, I just was listening to someone

talk on a podcast today and this person kept- Was it me? It was not you. This person kept leaning on these crutches. I have crutches too, we all have crutches. One of the crutches is be that as it may. My take is no woman has ever said those words in that order before.

That's something men say when they don't know what they wanna say next, but they wanna say. You do actually say it as a segue, usually when you're trying to not talk about what I'm talking about anymore. Be that as it may, that's not really in my quiver. I don't think. Okay.

Oh, so you're saying you looked into the abyss. I wasn't saying that in a hostile way. And you're stopping yourself. I'm talking about the theory. It came up in part because Bob on a pre-recording, we were saying, Chris can have sinners by the way, just so we can continue this conversation. Be that as it may, I heard someone say earlier today,

Bob said it is what it is on the call. Now, obviously that phrase lives on forever because of the Irishman, but that is a phrase that doesn't mean anything. At the end of the day. Okay. With that being said is a phrase that is, if you say with that being said, comma, and then something,

I don't trust you. You're not to be trusted. Okay. But so I, like, I just, and then something, I don't trust you. You're not to be trusted. Okay. Um, but so I, like, I just, you guys are like, was this at a club meeting that I'm not on? It was literally five seconds before JMO thread. No, you were getting tea. So this is what happens when like, I can't find the hot water in the building?

There's a vigorous exchange of ideas between two men who love language. That is what is happening. Okay. of ideas between two men who love language. That is what is happening. OK. That words are our currency. And that every day, we pay the piper by using words. The lion, the witch, and the wargroom to each other. You are really passionate about this? Be that as it may, Amanda. Yeah.

And I just, I didn't know when this happened. Do you know? Like, I, OK. It's fresh in my mind. There's a series. I actually support you guys on all of these things. There's a series of phrases that we can add to the list over time.

Okay. As they come across, I have a lot of crutches. Sure. Well, here's a crutch of mine. Your mileage may vary. I say that all the time. Yeah. That one is helpful for me because it lets me say like,

hey, I like this movie. You might not, you're a fucking idiot, but your mileage may vary. It allows me to kind of flow in the conversation. Be that as it may is nothing. Yeah. Okay. That doesn't mean anything. Yes. You agree?

Absolutely. Thank you for coming on the journey with me. I love words. It's your turn to nominate a film, I think. I got Sinners for... That was really, really intense. And I don't know why. I'm glad, I'm glad you felt it.

Just because, like, I was just focused on, like, the flower arch, and you were just starting yelling in that language. Well, Chris Trigger, he used Be That As It Made It to know my fire. I just want to say, in my defense, it is what it is is different. That actually means something. Like, that actually means, you know, you have to accept the reality of your situation.

But it also means that's exactly what it would be that, you know, that all those phrases are, they're just, they're like cotton candy. Like they don't have any depth. They don't mean anything. They just are like, you could just say, accept it. This is the way that it is. It is what it is, you know, these... I don't know, what are they, neologisms?

Is that what they're called? Like, they're, you know... I think also we watch too many... Uh... Well, it is what it is, is it's tautology, but... We watch too many sports press conferences. Oh, good point. I feel like our exposure to sports press conferences has gone up about 250%.

I mean, I think that you could just start with... Stop with, we watch too many sports press conferences, which is... I do. That's true. I watch Nick Sirianni talk. I need injury updates. Oh my God.

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Hmm. I'll throw out highest to lowest. Is this a sequel? It's not a sequel. Even though it's got highest to lowest. It's the numeral two in the Spike Lee sense of naming films. This is Spike's new movie, a remake reportedly of the Kurosawa movie. High and low.

High and low. Stars Denzel Washington. And Ice Spice. And Ice Spice, that's correct. And Jeffrey Wright. And Jeffrey Wright. And A$AP Rocky. Yeah.

And A$AP Rocky. I'm wondering, is A$AP Rocky the kidnapper? I don't know. Ice Spice could. Yeah, and Asap Rocky. I'm wondering, is Asap Rocky the kidnapper? I don't know. Ice Spice could be a kidnapper. Maybe together. Or is Ice Spice the kidnappee? You know, in the story... An industrialist... His child is kidnapped, but accidentally,

his chauffeur's child is kidnapped. And then it's like, I have to decide whether or not my chauffeur's child's life is worth what they want. Right. It's a great movie. It's one of the best movies ever made. Yeah. I'm very excited for Spike Lee to be back in the director's chair working with Denzel Washington. So here's the thing about this movie, an Apple and A24 co-production.

Right. What does that mean? Will this movie come out in movie theaters? I'll put it on the table for 75 bucks. Okay. Denzel and the Spike movie is an event. It's only happened a few times. Inside man. Inside man, he got game. Moe better. Moe better blues. Malcolm X. So this is a big deal. Any word on this one? Any vibes? None that I can report. Okay. I would love to love it.

And I would love for there to be a year of Spike. I think that would be overdue. Never won best director. I don't, this is a thriller, so you know, it's not likely necessarily, but it's a, the original film has big themes. So you're doing 75? So I'll do $75. I'm gonna do 90.

I'll do 100. Okay, I'll do 115. Now, could it be an Oscar movie? Could it be, probably not a Metacritic movie? Spike pretty divisive historically, especially in the last 15 years. Hasn't had a ton of movies that probably crossed that threshold. Hasn't made a movie since the Vietnam Netflix film, right? Yeah.

The Five Bloods. Any docs, docs since then? Don't think so. Wow. Don't think he's made a movie. He- Clansman's after the five bloods it is Before yeah, black lands was 2018. I think the five bloods was 2020. Okay, and I don't think he's made a film since then so

Am I forgetting something? I'm not right. No, I just I'm I'm looking it up. So I have it at 115 I don't know if it's gonna be hit any triggers 125 okay I'll go 130 I have it at 115. I don't know if it's going to hit any triggers. 125. Okay. I'll go 130. I'll go 140. 150. 165. I think it's nice on the first movie for each person to throw out something that we all want to see.

Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah. You know, and then we can get a little more arcane with our choices after that. 170. I'll go 175. Yeah. And then we can get a little more arcane with our choices after that. 170. I'll go 175. I hope this is good. 190.

Do you have a lesser loved Spike Lee movie that is of interest to you? I mean, I weirdly kind of liked Girl 6. Well, that's the one that is the most lost. Yeah. Not on Blu-ray, I don't think. Doesn't stream anywhere. No one's, he never talks about it. I haven't seen it in forever.

That's an interesting one though. I watched Get on the Bus recently. Great movie, really interesting. Movie that feels very, felt very urgent politically. The way that we don't really have movies like that. What's the World War II one called? Battle of... San Ana. Miracle at San Ana.

It's been a while. I think I only saw that when it first came out. Didn't want that one. 175? Chris has 190. I'll go 200. That's my cap. If you want to go past it, it's yours I'll go 205. Okay Great. I could have had 201 I guess but I don't need four bucks. We all know how I do

You pick tipper. Oh my gosh I don't want to talk about that Because you don't believe in it like Mr. Pink. Well, no, but I would, I just, yeah, I believe in tipping. Significantly. Yeah. I think that there are some places where we've instituted iPad tipping that aren't necessary. Aha. But I still tip.

I always, I try to do the same. I try to do as well, yeah. But I do agree. And I also never really carry cash, so I understand the necessity of the added thing. Right, yeah. Interesting. You want to speak on tipping? understand the necessity of the added thing. Right, yeah. Hmm, interesting. You wanna speak on tipping? I try to tip well whenever possible.

Yeah, I try to tip well whenever possible. When would it be not possible? Well, so I think people should be paid more. That's just me. Well, that's a fact. Yeah. When I'm at Cheetah's. We... We... We...

We... We... Do I recommend, suggesting another movie? We're doing Snake, right? Yeah, we could, I mean, we don't have to. You could just go back and order it because it doesn't really matter as much in terms of power play. Okay, I'm putting 28 years later on the board. A hundred bucks.

Two hundred bucks. Amanda doesn't care. Two hundred bucks. Well, it's not that I don't care. It's just he's suddenly, you guys are just, you know, going for it. Boys Night Out. Do you think you'll see this film in the theater? Yeah.

She pledged that she would watch the first two. I'm a working woman. You know, I do my job. Oh, you haven't seen 28 Days Later? I'm a working woman? Is that what you said? It's a good tagline. I do my job. You know? It's a good tagline. I'll go from 200 to...

Does that happen during the NFL draft? I'll try. I'll try. I'll go from 200. Does that happen during the NFL draft? I'll try. I'll try. I'll go from 200 to 300. Wow. OK. Because I liked how you went up 100. So I'm going up 100. This is the third film in the 28 series. Do you think it's going to make 100 million bucks? Boy, I think that they did a hell of a job

with that trailer and got people really interested in it. I think they said it's the highest viewed trailer in Sony history or something, or the highest viewed hell of a job with that trailer and got people really interested in it. I think they said it's the highest viewed trailer in Sony history or something, or the highest viewed trailer of a horror movie, some weird set, whoa. I'm looking, 19 million views in a month. Just on one hosting platform. Yeah, on the Sony Pictures Entertainment channel.

This is how I want to spend my time. When I woke up this morning, I was like, let's talk about trailer stream numbers on different platforms. What was the alternative? Watching the inauguration? Come on. Pep up. Uh... It's your year.

Let's go. Turn that frown upside down. Aaron Taylor Johnson is fighting for civilization. What are you doing? Ray Fiennes is in this film. Listen, I said that I would see it in theaters. 200 bucks? No, I said 300 dollars. Oh.

You said 200 dollars. Well, you know, I mean, uh... Wow, you're into penny-pinching right there. Well, you know... I'll do 310. Let's see what's going on. 320. 330. 340. So this is you, huh? This is what you're all about.

I gave you two in a row. Well, I'm not mad at him. I'm not mad at what I got. I'm trying, I got, I got to start. I'm hydrating. I got to start putting up some Metacritic numbers and I got to start putting up some box office numbers. We're not sure about sinners. Like I want to believe in a world where sinners get to 100. I want to believe in a world where Denzel gets best actor for highest to lowest. It's going to be really funny watching like Demi Moore being like, and the winner for best actor is Denzel Washington in highest to lowest.

It's in play. Yeah. That exact future is in play. I'll say 225. For you. You already have it. You already have $340. Yeah, I have $340.

Don't give yourself a $120 discount. I'll say I'll take it for 20 bucks. So you're at $340? $340. I'll do $350. So I've got the final reckoning at $390. This puts me in an interesting position. I'll say 355.

You can have it. And those are your two sequels, huh? Mm-hmm. Original content, Sean. I'll let you have it. Okay. So those are your two sequels for the whole year then. Yeah. Yes.

But they're probably my $200 million grocers. True. So a tactical effort here. You can wait on the 85 and the Oscar stuff until after the first festival season. Yep. In theory, if we're gaming it out. I just Googled movies 2025.

So that's where I'm going. That's you. You're just looking at movies. We did an episode about this about a week ago. No, I know but I don't You know, I'm trying to think about box office and stuff I see which I only slightly thought about my my budget is now down pretty significantly

Okay, you're down to in the 250 range, right? 255 left so Okay, Chris you gotta put one on the board now. Oh, is that my turn? Yeah. Okay, I will take, um... I will take... Jurassic World Rebirth.

Wow. Which I actually think is gonna rock. Good strat. Gareth Evans, director of Rogue One and the Creator, starring Scarlett Johansson and Mahershal Ali. Why would they make a bad movie? Is it a sequel or is it a reboot? This is something we don't know.

Well, should we just recap for everybody what happens in the second three Jurassic World movies? In the Prattverse? Yeah, why don't you start and I'll follow your lead. So there's a velociraptor named Blue. He's been trained by Chris Prats. What's his character's name? Joel?

Jim Pratt. Jim Pratt. He's in love with Bryce Dallas Howard. She's a really driven woman, though. At one point, he builds himself a house, but she needs him to come back. Blue. I think that's in the second one.

Then there's, like, a thing where they get in these globes and they roll down the volcano while it's exploding. And at the end, I think the dinosaurs are like free to like just keep Costa Rica. They're like, we're like, you guys got this. So what happens in Jurassic World Rebirth? I just want to say real quick, it's Gareth Edwards, not Gareth Evans. This is an important contention. My bad. Gareth Edwards with the rain. My bad. I always get those guys confused. My fault.

Gareth Edwards who made the creator. Yes. And Rogue One. And Rogue One. I'm going to bid $100 for this. Okay. I already have two sequels, so if this is a sequel, I can't bid on it. It's definitely a sequel, Sean. It's called Jurassic World colon rebirth. But is it a reboot? Like, are any of the characters returning?

Is this the same island you were? Yeah, the dinosaurs. What are you fucking talking about? Yeah, but is it like, is it blue? Will blue be back? Yeah. I don't know, man. I don't know. Do you think there'll be a title card at the beginning that says, somehow, Blue returned?

So is that what we're calling a sequel now? Is like only if like one Raptor makes it through all of the films? There has to be some narrative connectivity. Do you think the first Pratt movies are definitely sequels to the original trilogy? Well, is it all originated around the island that the industrialists built in the original film? Because the Jurassic World trilogy is connected

to the original trilogy. They're all canon together. But now we're saying there's a whole other universe where there's dinosaurs on this planet. A standalone sequel to Jurassic World Dominion, according to Wikipedia. Okay, well, what happens in it? Five years after the events of Jurassic World Dominion,

the planet's environment has shown itself to be mainly inhospitable to dinosaurs. The ones that are left live in remote equatorial regions with conditions similar to those in which they were formerly abundant. Zora Bennett, a covert operative, is hired to work with a paleontologist named Dr. Henry Loomis and team leader Duncan Kincaid on a top secret mission to obtain genetic material from the three largest creatures

in the world's tropical biosphere. There's a character named Dr. Loomis? Yeah, Dr. Henry Loomis. I think that's a- From Mercialist. From Friday the- That's Jonathan Bailey. That's from Halloween?

Wow. Yeah, Jonathan Bailey. Rupert Friend is in this. I don't understand. Dr. Loomis is a character in Halloween. Is it spelled the same way? I guess it's just like those guys that have a lot of fun. Is that an homage? L-O-O-M-I-S is in this Dr. Loomis is a character in Halloween I spelled the same way like those guys have a lot of fun L o o m is that's dr. I know This character's name is is pretty Okay, all right, um

Are they living on islands? Equatorial islands? Or how are the... Yeah, I don't think they're like outside of Buenos Aires. Or is this like a Godzilla versus Kong thing where they've like, you know... The inner Earth. Oh yeah, no I don't think there's an inner Earth. I don't know.

Have you even been anything? Like, did Chris get this seven minutes ago when he was still recapping the film? Yeah. So I got it for a hundred bucks? Yeah. Good job. It's a good get. Do you think it's gonna be good? I do. I do too. I do too. I definitely want to remember all the plot details too after we see it.

Okay, Amanda you can recommend a movie. Okay. I guess I'll... Well, I don't know. Should I just like try to outspend you? You know, wait until you don't have any money left? I don't have any movies. You know, I don't know, I mean, you very graciously let me have the first film, and now you're talking about kneecapping me. Why don't you worry about, you know, follow your heart. Do something you want to do. It's your year.

Right, but all the things that I want to do aren't blockbusters or sequels. You can worry about... Of one sequel, which I just did some Wikipediaing while you guys were having dinosaur time. Avatar fire and ash? Um, no. And I'm just really upset to learn that Megan

only made 95 domestic. I bet I will make 100 this time around. Just so you know, a lot of notes from the fine people who work at the studios that are producing Megan, 2.0, not a prequel. Okay. There's also a reason why there's a three in the Megan, because she's sort of the three series.

Oh, they've upgraded her. Yeah. Well, I, yeah, that's what I said about the... But it is a direct sequel. ...Methregan, you know? 2.0. Methregan. Yeah.

It rolls off the tongue. I think 2.0 will probably make $100 million, but like, I'm not, you know... Not a guarantee. Also, not a now and not a winter movie, a summer movie. That was a January film. What kind of assurances would you guys need

to not let Megan do any childcare? Like, to... We're kind of like... Percentage of like, this thing won't turn into a homicidal maniac. I let my daughter hang around you, so, yeah. I bet Megan's safer than I am, yeah. I would, I simply would not go for that. Let a robot raise your child?

I wouldn't go for that, yeah. It would be helpful. Mm-hmm. Until it was harmful, but... Yeah, I'm sort of like, I think that my child at this point, my older child anyway, would listen to Megan more than he would listen to me, you know? It's like the... Well, he would have to, otherwise he would be vanquished

from this Earth. Right, that's true. But, you know, even before, there's just something about the third party, like he's an abstinence. Very true, that's very true. Megan, two points. I mean, I think you should go for it. It's a fun movie. We like the first one. Okay. Thirty dollars.

Great. I can't bet on this one either. It's a sequel. Oh, that's right. I'm okay. There's other sequels I can bet on. Thirty dollars. There you go. So you got a chance at a 100 million dollar earner, but you've now knocked one sequel off your list. So you can only do one more over the next nine films that you acquire. Okay. well...

Isn't this a great game? You can put another film on the board now. Perhaps one of your highfalutin picks. Why don't you just let me do what I want? Okay, go ahead. There's several Guy Ritchie films that are coming out. That's really exciting. Did you guys talk about that? I didn't catch that.

No, you know we didn't. No. In the gray? And then what's the other one called? There's a really, there's an exciting. In the Gray. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. There's a really, there's an exciting performer in In the Gray. Who is it? In the Gray is... Oh, it's Cavill.

Yeah. Oh, no, it's Gyllenhaal. Gyllenhaal's In the Gray. And then, um, John Krasinski and Natalie Portman play sibling treasure hunters in the other one that he's got. John Krasinski and Natalie Portman? Yeah. Are siblings?

Yeah. Fountain of Youth. Okay. It's called. Interesting. And he also has two series coming. In the Gray revolves around two extraction specialists who have to designate a route of escape for a senior female negotiator.

I think that female negotiator is played by Aiza Gonzalez. A plus. What are you putting on the board? I don't know. This is, this is so fun. Not as fun now that you can't just do what you want, you know? Um... Yeah.

Only child over here. I think that you've really, like, it's just, it's less fun. You can do what you want. And then... Yeah, but then he's just going to be like, wow, the wow robot, you know, is not widely released and also has something. As the world slips through her fingers, as she thinks of all of the mistakes she's made in this society,

can't help but lash out. I haven't made that many mistakes. I just don't really care about... You stayed in this country. Well, that is true. Yeah. You could have been getting autres straight from the source. Yeah, you could have been in autres straight from the source. Yeah, you could have been in an equatorial island

with the dinosaurs. Yes, but they are islands. Jurassic World you're talking about? Uh, yeah, Isla Nublar and all those Islas are islands. I don't know where they've moved them though. I would imagine that the... Your Spanish isn't black and white. Number one... The number one condition of dinosaurs living on Earth would be there would be no land bridge.

You can't let a dinosaur into, like, Austin. You know? That literally happens in the second film. In the second one, right, but never again. Oh, we're trying to avoid it, for sure. We learned our lesson. Oh... Then they made five more. In the second film. In the second one, right, but never again. Oh, we're trying to avoid it, for sure. We learned our lesson. Oh...

Then they made five more. Keema on the Islas, you know? On those Islas, absolutely. Yeah. F1, 100 bucks. There you go, good, good. Because also, I... Because of how we do the... There you are, there you are.

You know what? You're back. I was waiting for you to come back. That would pay for the, uh, like, roasted nuts budget of one hour of this movie, $100. I'll say... One of the most expensive films ever made, right? But it's also currently scheduled for June 27th, and so it wouldn't be eligible for the next draft.

No, uh, oh, oh. Right, because anything that's released in the first six months of the year... Good thought. Yeah, once it's released, it's not available, Chris. Yes, very anything that's released in the first six months of the year... Yeah, once it's released, it's not available. Yes, very good. That's why one of your strokes of genius was getting Dune Part II last year. Because it was so close to being released, but not released.

Because it would have been not eligible. Obviously, that my thinking as well... So this is going into IMAX? Uh, yes. Will it be wide released otherwise? Yes. Okay. Reportedly be wide released otherwise? Yes. Okay. Reportedly.

I think that they need to make as much money as possible given the size of the budget of this movie. So I think it's going to get 4,000 screens, every IMAX screen for, what will it be? I don't think there is a big July 4th movie this year, is there? A big IMAX July 4th movie? Is it Fantastic Four not? I think the big July 4th movie is the train Matt and Kendrick Lamar movie Um, it's also Jurassic. Oh Jurassic World. Congratulations. Maybe it only has a week

If Jurassic World's getting those I'm actually celebrate our independence from dinosaurs It's Bill Pullman be that as it may these dinosaurs shall not tread I do wonder if it'll move because right now you've got 20 years later on June 20th, F1 on 27th, along with Megan 2.0 by the way, and then Jurassic World Rebirth on July 2nd, and then Superman on July 11th. And I assume all of those people want as many big screens as possible. So... I would guess Superman's gonna take over for the... until Fantastic Four comes along on July 25th.

Okay. Cool. Another film coming, but Superman and Fantastic Four, neither of which are sequels. We don't really have to bid on those right now if we don't want to. But we can. Okay. How much are you putting it up for? You said 100? I said 100.

I'll say 150. I will say 200. I'll say 210. 250. How much money do you have left? $255. Okay, 256. We're done. Chris, you don't want F1? I'm okay with F1.

What is it about that you're not interested in? I don't really care about Formula One driving that much. I don't either. And that's a core part of this film. Yeah, but I wouldn't have said that I really cared that much about fighter jets, to be honest, before I saw Top Gun and Top Gun Maverick. That's an interesting point, Amanda.

I guess I always had a soft spot for fighter jet. I would have said I'm not interested in flesh-eating viruses until I saw 28 Days Later. So, look at us now. OK, so you have F1 and you have Megan. Megan 2.0, yeah. Well, Chris, you have to put something up now. Okay. So I need some, what are we looking at here?

I think we need something that will cross 85 or get some Oscar. Okay. Now this is hard to do. I wonder whether sentimental value is a good pick here. I feel like Joachim von Trier's... No von. It's just Joachim Trier. Is it?

Alright. Are you sure? Not lying to you. That being said... You just be that as it made his name. Your mileage may vary on whether the Vaughn is used there. I think you're thinking of Theo Vaughn. That's definitely, didn't you direct this?

Theo Vaughn's sentimental value. I did not know what he looked like. Theo? Yeah. Not a Road Rules watcher. You are not the first ringer individual who said that to me. So that was startling.

Yeah, that's what he looks like. I think I hit 85 here, or I hit a Renata Rines of a best actress. Nam. Oh, OK. Interesting. Also very interesting to see Corey Michael Smith, who I like so much in Saturday Night. It was just talking him up about that on the pod

that we did about it when I had the movie on my list. I'm very excited about this movie. Family drama about two sisters who are forced to deal with their estranged father following the death of their mother. So it's a laugh riot. And Elle Fanning is in it with Corey Michael Smith. I assume Elle Fanning is the sister?

I don't know. I don't know. That's a bit confusing. I assume Stellan Skarsgard is the father. He's in this film. Never had a bad day in his life on a film set. You know how it seems that there's He's in this film? Yeah, he's in stuff. Never had a bad day in his life on a film set? You know how it seems that there's another Scandinavian actress,

I'm assuming, listed here without a Wikipedia page, who has a character name Agnes, so I assume it's Renata Rensiv. And Inga Ibstader-Lilius? You nailed it. Thanks so much. As Agnes. Inga, that's a nice name. That's kind of fall out of fashion. Agnes is a nice name.

It's a nice name. Obviously a huge fan of his work even though I added a middle name for him, but I just feel like the worst person in a world thing got just even bigger and bigger over time where like people reference it when they're doing like their letterbox like, oh, my four favorites like that kind of thing. What are your four favorites? Jurassic World's Dominion. I don't know why that makes me laugh.

I just, I need to interrupt this just to note that we are recording this on Michelle Obama's birthday, and Barack Obama has just posted a happy birthday message. Well, you would. Exactly. But you you would. Exactly. But you would anyway. Yeah. Right?

Happy birthday to the love of my life, Michelle Obama. I'm so lucky to be able to take on life's adventures with you. Love you. 30 bucks for sentimental value. 35. 40. 50. 55.

60. It's hard to replicate what happened with the worst person in the world. Which is we liked it a lot. Yeah. No, it just kind of, it elevated out of festival awareness into a kind of mainstream in America because of awards season and the introduction of a great new actress, Trier, who had been making movies for a while but became more of an international auteur who was well known. Unlike, you know, went into the Criterion Collection, you know, nominated for Oscars.

But isn't that like, I mean, couldn't you make the argument that that's how like Robert Eggers built his career? It's how Wes Anderson built his career. People started getting more and more excited about... It's a test of, this movie is a test of that. So I'm betting, I'm betting on Trier. Okay, I respect it. Where is the bidding right now? Sean has it for $60. $70. $75.

$80. $85. 90? I mean, I have some money, you know, but not that much. But I gotta start getting some quality here. Some quality films. I'm good. I'm out. You're at 90? Mm-hmm.

How passionate are you? 95? 100? Is there no, there's no ceiling for you? There's no limit. Like Mark Wahlberg in The Gambler. Yeah, that's so true. I'm only, so I only made it like 15 minutes through your... The podcast or the movie?

The podcast. But it was one of those things when I saw that you guys had done it. Yes. It brought me real joy. Thank you. Just like on the feed. But then... Glad there's one of you. And then I was listening and it was still in the

we're taking Mark Wahlberg as an actor seriously portion of the podcast. So I'm looking forward to getting to like the gambler part of the podcast. Yes. Let's do 99, uh, $9. Amanda already bet a hundred. Let's do 110. Let's do 110. I have a good feeling about this. Okay.

Um, I mean, I just have to decide whether it's what I want to do right now. Or I have a lot of other movies that I'm very passionate about. The 85 Metacritic is hard. I think he gets it. But I guess I can do it. I mean, I think that's true, but I could also wait and try to do that later on. Those are rookie numbers for Joe.

Joe Bundchier. do that later on. Those are rookie numbers for Joe. Joe Buntrier. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh.

Uh. The worst person in the world currently has a 91 square. Yeah. Metacritic. 85 is a high number that you set that at, Doug. It is, that's why I did it. So. His previous film Oslo, August 31st has an 84.

That's his. Uh. Oslo's great. Reprise has a 79. Oh my God, so he lives in that era. Filmer is a 74 and Louder Than Bombs is a 70. He has a fucking condo in that. Oslo August 31st was not his previous film,

it was his first film. Second film. I get it. Okay. Okay. So I have four movies now, Sean has two, Amanda has two. Interesting.

This is not how that usually goes. This is, I know, this is also bad podcasting because then we're just going to face off at each other and be kind of spiteful. So don't, so don't bid for a while so that you can stay in the mix. I know. Okay. All right. I'm so happy to be here with both of you guys.

I'm also, I'm not going to finish my bid here and then not talk for an hour. Okay, that's true. Yeah. Also, did you know that Zinn has a rewards program? I just found out about that. That's horrifying. Is it called the passport, just like J.Crew? The Zinn passport?

It says, collect, track, and redeem Zinn rewards. Okay. I'm gonna put a big, big bold beautiful journey on the board for $50. Okay. This is a new film from Coco Nata starring Margot Robbie and Colin Farrell It's first film since after Yang. I neglected to mention Columbus on this on the previous time I discussed it one of my favorite movies of that year. Did people say sir you neglected to mention Columbus Or you just remember these? I sir, you've neglected to mention Columbus? Or you just remember that you neglected to mention Columbus? I just remembered I neglected to mention Columbus. I prefer Columbus to After Yang if I have to choose between Coco and Out of Films.

And this is, as Bob pointed out, a very mysterious log line in this movie, quite vague. It is coming out in May, so we would not have the opportunity to get it next time around. I'm just deeply intrigued, and I want it to be something special. And there's certainly a world where a movie like this gets awards recognition or, you know, crosses some sort of metacritic threshold, but I'm just curious about it. I just want to see it and I hope for the best with it. It's what I'm in the business for. That's beautiful.

Thank you. That's really exciting. So what did I say? $50. Okay. If I have to put a numerical value on my appreciation for the work of art in movies. Okay. Sold to Sean for $50?

Amazing. Wonderful. Thank you so much. Okay. You're so welcome. You get another... Just want to throw this out there. A couple too many movies for my taste have very vague log lines that are like a two two people journey through time on an amazing adventure. That's not specific enough.

Is the issue not enough dinosaurs in the description? Is the big picture's new mission statement. Is two people journey through time on an amazing adventure? Uh-huh. You know, two miscreants. But I wouldn't know that it's a movie podcast if I heard that. You know what I mean? Like, I want to know, is Koganata making a period piece?

Is it a sci-fi futuristic piece? Is this movie about the Civil War? Which one? Alex Garland's? Abraham Lincoln's? You know? Well, they're both relevant. I... I don't agree with you, but there will be a trailer and marketing materials for this film,

and we will find out. Probably within the next eight weeks. Okay. So I'm not too worried. Okay. Wouldn't you say? It's a movie that comes out on May 9th. I'd love to look forward to marketing materials. Something we discuss here on the show from time to time.

Yeah, we do. We do. Okay, I have another movie to put out into the world. How do we circle the square in this conversation? How about the Phoenician scheme? Hmm. Let's do it. I'm so excited for Michael Cera to join conversation. How about the Phoenician scheme? Let's do it. I'm so excited for Michael Cera to join the Wes Anderson Repertory Company. Yeah.

I feel like that's been, that's, that's been something I, I didn't know I was dreaming, but I was. This is Wes's new movie. Um, it's an espionage comedy category. He's never really pursued before. Although if you look at his first couple of movies, you can see his huge interest in those kinds of stories. Benicio Del Toro, Sarah, Bill Murray, Rizomed, Tom Hanks, Benedict Cumberbatch, Scarlett Johansson,

Charlotte Gainsborough, her friend Willem Dafoe, Bryan Cranston, it's a ridiculous cast as per usual now. He's almost exclusively now working in mega ensemble. Almost all of his movies now have at least 10 notable as per usual now, he's almost exclusively now working in mega ensemble. Almost all of his movies now have at least 10 notable names. Asteroid City has a 76 Meta score. I just, this is an abomination. Wake up people, wake up, wake up.

They gotta wake up. I mean, I agree. Yeah, I mean, something has obviously happened with him where everybody is like, it's all the same now. We talked about it when we did the Asteroid City episode. And then I think we all rewatched Asteroid City and liked it even more when we rewatched it, which is the case for a lot of his movies

where you come to appreciate it more deeply. But this one, like so many, co-written with Roman Coppola, you know, I assume it could be a Cannes premiere, could be a fall festival premiere, but it sounds like it will be out before the year is over. I'll put it on the board for 50 bucks. So tough one here. As you mentioned, Metacritic starting to be blind to his charms. Often he'll get like a screenplay nom here, an actor supporting actor nom somewhere, but

rarely gets lavished. Yeah, it's overlooked. And it's hard to imagine the Phoenician scheme making a hundred million dollars, but that's okay. Sometimes you want to just have a good slate. Yeah. You know, so this isn't an effort to have a good slate. We can all agree on Wes Anderson and his greatness.

Yes. So, $50? Yeah. Uh, $100. We can all agree on Wes Anderson and his greatness. Yes. So you, $50? Yeah. Uh, 100. Chris is out. You're out? I mean, you don't have to be. Uh, I'm out because I need a specific thing for my fifth to buttress.

And I'm also out just cause I love hearing you two talk. Oh, that's beautiful. I actually don't think that's true. Two people on a journey through time on a magical adventure? I do! What are you talking about? Do you? Oh, yeah. You guys? So, what do you need? You need a guaranteed Oscar?

I think I'd like to get into the... the chin-scratching critic hive with my next pick. Okay. Yeah, gotta look for another von Trier film. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, gotta look for another von Trier film. Yeah. I will say, I do think Sean made a good point, is that it's slightly easier to do that in the second half of the year.

I agree with you, yes. I'm just trying to share a strategy with you so you can have what you want. This is me breaking my suggestion, obviously. I could have waited on this. No, and this is what I'm thinking. I mean, this could be Cannes. This could be early, Asteroid City-wise.

Wes Anderson, a storied resident of Paris. I don't know if this movie has distribution right now. Um... I think... But the fact that it doesn't means it's definitely not dated, which means it probably is the second half of the year. Yeah. So that's interesting. It's Indian Paintbrushes,

the production company, as always, with all of Wes's movies, but usually by this point... Focus or whoever's. Yeah, or Sunny Pictures Classics or somebody is coming in. Do you think focuses like this one sucks? Uh, hope not. That would be concerning. Although, they're probably beating their chest these days with the Nosferatu success, so, you know.

How do they level up as a movie studio? Interesting question. You don't care. All right, $100. Uh, I don't really have a lot of money left to work with here. Okay. So there's some challenges in that one. And you also have, um, you have two minutes left to fill. It appears you have $714 left.

I can spend whatever I want. Okay. Um, I'll say 101. Okay. Um. I'll say 101. Okay. I'll say 102. What are we doing? Sierra, you're holding on to 315. Yeah, I could say I'm going to do...

I'll get in. Can I get involved? Sure, why not? Yeah, I'll do 150. Okay. I'll do 200. I think I want this. I think I would have brought this to the table myself.

To the market? Yeah. Okay. I really love... You gotta gusty up the quality of your sleigh right now too. You got F1 and Megan 2.0. No disrespect, but you know. The work of Joseph Kaczynski means a lot to me and my family.

So... it's like, chill out. Has Maxine Tron yet? No, I wonder if he would like it. The new, the Kaczynski Tron. I'm seriously considering showing him a Complete Unknown. Because now he requests Bob Dylan. And the way he pronounces Bob Dylan is very cute. He and I can talk about Monica Barbaro in that film.

I mean, I will also join that conversation. I spent a lot of time thinking about how beautiful she looks. and talk about Monica Barbaro in that film. I mean, I will also join that conversation. I spent a lot of time thinking about how beautiful she looks. But since it's mostly song performances and beautiful people, I think he would respond to that. Sure, if he's digging on Bob. But no, the Wes Anderson, how much did I bid? 200?

200. 200 dollars. One of my favorite filmmakers, I think we talked about how much we all slept on Asteroid City even as we were like what a revelation. I mean it's... All the Meta Boys and Girls as well. Yeah. So, and I like espionage movies. It's yours. And comedies. You got it. That's very exciting. Now it's your turn to recommend a movie. Oh great. Okay. So I have Asteroid City so I have five. No, I misspoke. It's Chris's turn. I forgot Chris goes second.

So... Do we have like a... Are you like, we have to get out of here soon? No. I'm here with you. I'm feeling connected to you guys. I kind of want to just talk about this movie. I don't know. I can't remember. I don't think you... You did talk about it. I'd anticipate it, but I'm just gonna throw it out there anyway. Running Man? Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about it. Uh... anticipate it, but I'm just gonna throw it out there anyway. Uh, Running Man? Yeah. Yeah, let's talk about it. Yeah. Uh, do you think this will be good?

Well, I think it's a very cool challenge for the two primary people responsible for it. Edgar Wright and Glenn Powell. Because it is a big time movie star part, and it is a big time franchise movie, which is something that Edgar has basically never done. You know, he did do Scott Pilgrim, which was, was IP in a way, but he's never had such a known property before.

Um, two guys I love, two guys whose, whose stuff I dig. Yeah. The Running Man is not my favorite story. It's not. It's not my favorite Arnold movie. It's not my favorite Stephen King thing. It isn't a thing that I love. I do think it was that story and the way that the movie is made is very prescient about the modern entertainment economy.

Yeah, I'm curious to see what they do with The Running Man now that The Running Man is pretty much like what you see when you watch television. Yeah. Yeah. Or look at your phone. Yeah. It's a little bit like people posting George Carlin clips on social media, you know? You're like, he nailed it, he was there.

Like, he was. And people knew then. Just like when you watch The Running Man, you're like, yeah, okay, this is where we're going. So... Coleman, Domingo, Josh Brolin, Lee Pace, and Michael Cera and Katie O'Brien is a great ensemble. Incredible. And... Even the idea of Lee Pace and Katie O'Brien

as the other like warriors go in to fight Glenn Powell is such a good idea. It'll be really, really, really well made and slick and stylish and energetic and cool. It's all about the script. Think this is a hundred million? And what do you think? I don't know about that.

I mean, if Twisters... Twisters made how much domestic? It did okay. It did like two, two, three hundred, right? Yeah, over a hundred for sure. Yeah, but Twisters is a phenomenon. What I'm saying, like... Like, Twister, the film, is like 10 years later. And like a touch point for way more people.

Right, the Running Man is like... Yeah, just because of time and... And it's a B Schwarzenegger movie, probably. Like... I'm gonna go 100 just to get us started. And I think that this could be a box office hit. Maybe. So it's a November release. Oh, okay. I thought this was a summer release.

It's November. It's an interesting November this year. It comes out on the same day as Predator Badlands. Oh, okay. Dan Trachtenberg's follow-up. That's going into theaters? It's going into theaters. Not a streaming release like his last one. No, but like, sincerely, one of my favorite things

is when you reenact Predator movies for me. No, you came in to my office for one of the, like a 2018 one. Oh, it was for the Predators. Yeah. It was for the Shane Black one. So tell me what you know. That L. Fanning is in a Predator movie

about two sisters running across, I bet, the Badlands. OK. And probably being chased by Predators. OK. And Dan Trey. Who's the sister? I don't know.

Maybe it's L. and Dakota. Maybe it's L. playing twins. I have no idea. Okay. It would be fun if it were Dakota. Dan Trachtenberg has made a bunch of really good movies. I agree. I'm a big fan of his. Um, Predator, Badlands, and The Running Man coming out on the same day is incredible bros smashing slushies together at the movie theater

all afternoon situation. Um, the following week is now you see me three. The following week is wicked. Where are you on the NYSM experience? I have loved talking to and hearing Jesse Eisenberg talk about how much he loves making those movies because he's like, you might think I'm an idiot for saying this, but let me tell you that character is nothing like the way that I am.

And so getting to be that guy, that magician, that weird magician... He's the most charming magician in the world. Yeah, and he's like, I'm Jesse Eisenberg. And a huge star. Yeah. Made me more excited to go back and look at those movies. The new one's made by Ruben Fleischer too, who's the director who I have a lot of time for,

despite some of his missteps over the years. I love Venom, obviously, and I really love Zombieland, so, you know, we'll see. Can I read you the run after Wicked for Good? Do I just have this for $100? You do. It has been like six and a half minutes. Zootopia 2, Five Nights for Freddy...

Five Nights at Freddy's 2, Avatar, Fire and Ash. And then something we're probably overlooking, but Bobby can speak to it, the SpongeBob movie, Search for Squarepants. I love some SpongeBob movies, but I don't think that's the one that I love, though. Two sponges traveling across a landscape on a journey through time.

A big, bold, beautiful SpongeBob. That made me, you know, that's... I know that the tent pole movies get dated first. You don't want to be on the SpongeBob episode? I think I have seen some SpongeBob from like a, in a babysitting context. Sure. What'd you think? There's a really incredible Nosferatu SpongeBob episode.

That's how I learned about Nosferatu. Okay. That's cool. That's great actually. I like that. And I know it means a lot to, to Bobby and his community. That's how I learned about Nosferatu. Okay. That's cool. That's great actually. I like that. And I know it means a lot to Bobby and his community.

So I'm happy for everyone. Okay. You've got to put a movie up. Oh, okay. I guess so. Yeah. Oh, I got my, I'm done. That's too bad.

You also get $215 from Sean's back pocket though, so big win for you. That is nice. Okay. Got a lot more to spare. So I've got two spots left. You've got two spots left. Right. We've got to combine 720 simoleons.

Right. But I, you have $205 and I have $514. Correct. So I can just buy two movies that I want. If you'd like. But that doesn't seem really fun. But like, do I want to be a real asshole and just take Battle of Bactan Cross from you?

Well, we don't know if it's coming out this year. That's true. And I have been being like, I don't know about that. But like... Battle of Bactan Cross is not going to cross any of the thresholds. You know, the Leonardo DiCaprio can get a movie over $100 million just on himself. I know, but see, like, you're already, like, fidgeting. Because you look really upset.

Well, no, I know, I know, I see the narrative. See, this is like, now he creates these rules, and then he gets in this situation, and then the tables are turned, and he's just flustered. I'm not gonna do it, I'm not going to do it. I'm not, but like, I just want you to know that that's power that I have over you right now. You should do what you feel is right.

That's what David Lynch would have said. That's what Paul Thomas Anderson would do. He'd say, Mike DeLuca cut the check. You know what, you know what David Lynch said? And this is advice you should take. Fix your heart or die. Okay. That's, that's good advice.

I mean... I'm not, I just want you to know that I could do that. And I know it. Could you imagine the things I could do to you? You have no idea. That's... I just... Maybe I should have stayed in.

Yes. You were wise to get out when you did. Yeah. It's a guy who's seen Dead of Thieves right there. This is why I told him to not do it, because then it just becomes really ugly. Are we getting too Bellany Pillows? Is this coming? I don't think it's coming out.

I think I was fidgeting because I'm annoyed preemptively by the PTA movie failed discourse. Yes. The killers of the flower moon redox. I don't want to live through that. I think that's a huge waste of time. This movie, no reasonable person should give him $180 million or whatever to make a movie. It's super cool that it happened.

And I will celebrate that fact, but from a financial strategy perspective, that seems weird that this happened. I'm gonna do Marty Supreme, 200 bucks. Great. Good pick. Good pick. Thank you. Josh Safdie's new movie coming up Christmas Day.

About ping pong. About ping pong. About a real ping pong champion portrayed by... Yeah. Timothy Chalamet. Yeah. And co-starring Gwyneth Paltrow. Yeah. So...

I only have $205, so I'll say 205. 204, because I need a dollar. I will say 206. OK, so you take this. Yeah, I'm excited about this. I feel like this is a good movie for all of us. Yes, great big picture movie. And look at you.

Yeah, thank you so much. A little slow getting out of the gate. And then look at this. Look at this rotation. Was I slow getting out of the gate or was I generous to Sean? And then just um, just... It seemed like you were slow. I mean, respectfully. Well, that's because you were just, like,

yelling about vampires for 45 minutes, you know? It's her year. And that's sick. Yeah, that's really... I liked the dinosaur bit, so I really enjoyed that, but I wasn't gonna bid on that. Um, so, you know. Okay. All right, what am I gonna do?

Should I do one for me? Should I do one? Wait, you said Marty Supreme and you bid on it. Do you have a, do you get to nominate a movie? No, I have to snake draft. Oh, you have two, that's right. I'm gonna, you know what I'm gonna do because I can't get it next time,

and I'm gonna spend all my money on it? Opus, written and directed by Mark Anthony Green. Three hundred and eight dollars. Stars Iodibary and John Moggivish. Yeah, but also it stars Iodibary and it's A24. I don't know if it's gonna get to one. Maybe it could get to 100. I don't know. That would make it the first A24 movie to make 100 million dollars. That's fine.

I... sometimes you can do things that you want. And that's what I want to do. Absolutely. If you've proved nothing else... Yeah. ...about the world and yourself in the many years we've been doing this show together, it's sometimes you do what you want. I want to make a film that stars me,

about a man who loses his mind trying to recap Jurassic movies. And then you take it in an auction because you love me so much. You're just like, $1,000 for Chris's... I will show you the life of the mind. But like, you know that just, like, your autobiographical project... Yeah. I would draft, like, every year for all the money.

I appreciate it. I really think that there should be more content and art made about the Chris Ryan experience. Thanks. It's pretty boring right now, but I appreciate it. Hmm. So you can do whatever you want and you're welcome. I guess I should have let you bid on Opus, but I want it. Are you going to take Havoc?

You know that's actually coming out now. This is the actual Gareth Evans movie starring Tom Hardy. Tom Hardy fighting his way through the London Underground. Which I think was filmed in 1978. And they're finally, they're letting it out of the cage now, which is exciting for you. Um, why has this movie been on the shelf for four years? I don't know.

Okay. Uh... Any two movies I want from the entire movie you're slate. Do it. Be true to yourself. Mmm, I'll take the Battle of Bacton Cross for one dollar. Okay. Sort of inversion of the financial approach, given on the funding of this film. Paul Thomas Anderson's new movie that I can't wait to see. This is the last time I will mention the discourse about that movie. Okay. I only brought it up because if you were to spend, say, a lot of money on this,

if this had become like the first thing we threw out there and it went up to like $400, you'd be bummed out if it was like, actually, we're going to kick this to January, you know? That's true. I mean, that is literally what happened with Mickey 17, right? And it's the same studio. It's plausible that happens another time. Um, hmm, what is the next movie that I want? So let's just kind of look at your, you got a Mission Impossible that's going to be a blockbuster.

Twenty-eight, you probably get a blockbuster there. A Big Bull Beautiful Journey, that's the Kogunata movie. Yeah. So you're hoping for Metacritic there and possibly an Oscar. Back then... No, it was 50 bucks, so I was hoping for a goodritic there and possibly an Oscar. Back then... No, it was 50 bucks, so I was hoping for a good movie. That was honestly my thinking. Okay.

And also a movie that we're not gonna... I would not be able to bid on Next Gen. And then Back then, you know, there's a lot of things that could happen there. It also could not come out. So you need... It's unusual for PTA movies to not get Oscar nominations. Yep. Just putting that out there.

So I feel like I can at least lean on that. Metacritic is a coin flip. But if this is like a wacky hair vice type comedy. Yeah, more challenging. Should we just do the Metacritic game for Paul Thomas Anderson quickly? Sure. He's got five over 85.

That's a lot. Okay. What are they, Bob? It's the Master, Hoogie Nights, Licorice Pizza, Phantom Threat, and There Will Be Blood. Yeah, okay. Yeah.

So any movie I want. Let's look at my list. Hmm. Now I could hurt you. Okay, go ahead. But I won't do it. All right. I won't do it, because that's not what I'm about.

I mean, I have not done it twice now. I have been the bigger person times 3,000 on this podcast. And you've met me only. Literally no one would agree with that. Not a single soul would agree that you were ever the bigger person. I gave you Mission Impossible and I didn't take Battle of the Back and Cross from you. I gave it to you. You got it for one dollar, Sean. I did. I did.

So, you know. Are these the tales you tell yourself? Let's pick a movie. Mm-hmm. I'm gonna take my time. This is why we need you to hang in. Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. It's okay.

You guys can chat. I was trying to bring Running Man up as a conversation topic. Yeah, I'm just not... I kind of got distracted. I'm real, real mixed on Edgar Wright. You know, it can work for me or it cannot. I mean, there's some huge movies here, Sean. I love you, Glenn Powell.

There's some what? Huge movies that you can just get for cheap or you can be like, I'm gonna... I know I don't really need a huge movie at the moment. Well, then take Deliver Me From Nowhere. Brother? I don't know what that is. Oh, is that Bruce Springsteen? Yeah.

Is that coming out? I mean, I think they're almost done shooting it. I think you should try to get that next time around. Do you know that Inner Ritu's movie is supposed to come out this year maybe? No, 26. But they already shot it, started shooting it in November. 26. It's dated, I think. Okay.

Another Apple movie, Tom Cruise. Yeah. Talking about movies, they're good. Mickey 17, still available. And March 17th release. Man, that voice. Too much? Good? You don't like it? I'm sure it'll be cool in the movie, but that's a tough beat.

Where are you at on Arpats? I like it. We know you love Twilight. Those are your favorite movies. I'm really, really pro. I just want to restate that. I was trying to participate in the conversation. Oh, dude, you know what I wish I had picked? What's that?

Caught stealing. Yeah, Aronofsky. You're back. Oh, yeah. Austin Butler is an ex-baseball player who's in the New York. It's really, it's like a deep conflict for me, right? Hmm. What's up with your boy David Robert Mitchell's new movie?

It was pushed to 2026 by Warner Brothers. Flowervale Street, starring Anne Hathaway. I think it's about dinosaurs. I think they saw the Jurassic World Rebirth train coming. They said, we gotta get off the tracks. Um... Are you psyched about Kathryn Bigelow's Missile Strike movie? I'm not not striked. I'm not not stoked.

I'm a little bit concerned about the timing. Okay, so here's one thing I'll say to you. Okay, that was an example of what I'm referring to. Here's one thing I will say to you. You can just say it. I actually can't because you guys talk over me all the time. No, do we? So, it's, yeah. Not the case.

Be that as it may, Amanda. As a working woman, I gotta seize the floor. Do you, the schedule maestro... Ha ha ha. Anticipate drafting or auctioning before July 11th? Because otherwise it won't be there for you. Yeah, we usually do run it the first week of July. So you're talking about Superman.

Well, what if I'm on vacation? What if I strategically... Sounds like we got a two-man auction coming. ...man vacation? That's not in the bylaws. Do you want to go on vacation for Superman? I'm helping you and also warning you all at once. You know?

This only happened because I suggested that she go on vacation in July so that she doesn't have to talk about Superman on the pod. Is it that? Is that? So Superman is July 11th, so it would... Yeah. Like, why are you so upset about Superman? She thinks she's like Angela Merkel or something, where she's just like,

I have allowed for all of these things to transpire. Like, we know, man. Well, I'm just letting you know if we auction on July 12th. Amanda, I'll just put Mallory in your chair. What are you talking about, man? You're gonna try to okey-dokey on Superman by going on vacation? I'm not okey-dokey you. I can't take it. I'm just letting you know.

Just take Superman. Is that what we're talking about here? No, but I don't want it. Okay. In this instance, I don't want it. Hot Stealing, no. Delivery from Nowhere probably not coming out coming out. I'll take Eddington Yeah, that's good Westerners a contemporary road trip movie it's a Western I don't know what when it's set Okay, I don't know a lot about it. There's not a lot about it out there again. It's got an incredible Hollywood

Just just tell me where the fucking movie you think it's a disinfo campaign? I just think they're doing a bad job getting people psyched about stuff. Do you think that the name, The Battle of Bacton Cross, will be the name of the movie? Do you think the movie will be called The Battle of Bacton Cross? No, I don't.

What do you think it'll be called? You don't. It's gonna be called like, Shutter Island 2. What if it is Shutter Island 2. What if it is Shutter Island 2? That's great. You really brought it today. You both brought it today. Great stuff, guys. Shall we recap our picks?

Sure. Okay. Amanda, why don't you start? Okay. I see that really stayed with you. I have Miss Regan 2.0. How much? For $30. Somehow she started speaking Elvish.

No. Which, just to clarify, is not a prequel. Because I got that wrong last time. Not a prequel, a sequel, yes. Okay, F1 for $256. The Phoenician scheme for $200. Marty Supreme for $206. And Opus for $308.

It's a good lineup. Agreed. Chris? Sinners for $270. Highest to lowest for $205. Jurassic World colon rebirth for $100. Sentimental value... by Joakim Ter for $110 and Running Man Edgar Wright's Glenn Powell movie for $100.

And how much did you leave on the board there? $215. I carry that over. That does not carry over, sadly. I don't care. Should we start doing that? I don't think it's an issue of like, oh, I don't have enough. We should have done that.

I mean, I guess we could do it. Do you know what I would rather do? I would rather be able to do it differently. Buy another slot. Well, what just happened to me could work to my advantage long term. Right. And it also would have kept us actually drafting. Yes. So maybe we should do it in 2026. We'll definitely be doing this show.

It's definitely gonna last that long. We're learning and growing. Yes, we're learning a lot. We're growing a lot. I can't tell if this is a bit... I'm growing, uh... Uh... I am growing in my appreciation for the Mission Impossible franchise, which I acquired for $390, the final reckoning,

because Amanda gave it to me. 28 years later, I got for $355. A big, bold, beautiful journey, I got for $50. The Battle of Bacton Cross, I got for $355. A Big Bull Beautiful Journey, I got for $50. The Battle of Bacton Cross, I got for $1. And Eddington, I got for $204. I don't know. I'm quite curious to know how many, maybe we can circle back to this, how many Oscar nominations are in this first slate. That's a great, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think that the final 28 movie will be called at the end of the day, colon zombies?

Be that as it may, comma zombies, it is what it is. I don't think there are any Oscar nominations in our first slate. Challengers. I might get a couple. You might. I might. I will probably get one.

I guess Chris will have Dune part two. Below the line stuff. Maybe gladiator two below the line. Yeah. And I'll have Nostra 2 below the line, but not, no, not really any above the line stuff. Yeah. Well, Dune will probably get nominated for best picture, right?

It will. It will for sure. So quickly before we wrap. Yeah. Dene, it looks like he quickly, before we wrap, Dini, it looks like he's not going to make it, right? Like, you're the Dini guy. I am a Dini guy, yeah. Some might say the.

Yeah. I would say that my love of him peaked with a rival, though. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I've enjoyed this Dune experience. Peaked with a rival and not Sicario? Well, wasn't Sicario previous to a rival? Like, I'm saying, like, on the train up the mountain. The funicular up the mountain.

But wouldn't Sicario is your passion. Yes. And then it stayed at Arrival? Yeah. Like, I love Enemy. I love Prisoners. I love Sicario. I love Arrival.

And then I have appreciated the Dune movies, but I do feel like we've lost like six years of a great filmmaker Just making cool shit, but Dune's great. I'm happy for him. So it peaked with Sicario Plateau with Arrival. I suppose. Yeah, I don't really understand mountains. Thank you so much. I don't really either Hmm, okay, so you're like good and you don't deserve it, Deni. That's what you're saying? No, that's not what I said. That's not what I said. What are you saying?

I'm saying that we should see if we can change the Academy rules to nominate prisoners for Best Picture this year. Prisoners, you know, it's got some flaws, Chris. What is it about that story that you connect to? Uh, Jake Gyllenhaal's character. Is that the, oh. Why are you shopping for baby clothes? Oh my God. What are you shopping for baby clothes?

What are you doing at the mall? Detective Loki? Yeah. I don't think I have an Oscar in my slate here. I guess I'm holding out hope for the Denzel one. Everybody thought he was going to win for Gladiator and he's not. Did we pick him to win for Gladiator in our bets? We didn't, right?

Remember we did the bet in September? Yeah, I do. I think that, I think I maybe picked Clarence Macklin. Which would be incredible, but I don't really think that it's gonna happen, unfortunately. No, Kieran Culkin is gonna happen for sure. Okay.

That's another thing where I'm like a real pain. Like a good movie that's taken up a little too much space. Okay? That's where I am with it. So that's why I'm reacting. Everywhere you go, people are saying, ma'am, have you seen A Real Pain? I just also, Kieran Culkin is very good in it

and has won several Emmys for his work and succession, which I might posit is indistinguishable from what he's doing in a real pain. And I really like him. I hope he keeps working forever. I enjoy his awards acceptance speeches. Yes. It's not who I would give this supporting actor

Oscar to this year. You would give it to? Clarence Macklin from Sing Sing. In the big Oscar bet, Amanda, you did pick Clarence Macklin and Sean, you picked Guy Pierce. Hmm. Sight unseen, I believe. Yeah, but we kind of knew, you know?

Yeah. You both had Kieran Culkin nominated, so. Yeah. I did love the potential narrative for Guy Pierce, which is playing out in the marketing and press around me. Right. A lot of like, I think he's now been profiled in Vanity Fair and the New York Times. A lot of people being like,

you motherfuckers forgot this guy. Circa, LA Confidential, and Memento was set to be the golden one. And then was not for reasons because I guess some guy at Warner Brothers who didn't, like Guy Pearce didn't allow him to be in Chris Nolan movies. That was one of my, do you read that?

Oh, wow. It was a crazy factoid that he shared in the Vanity Fair interview where he was like some guy at Warner Brothers said no to me appearing in future Nolan movies, and so he just didn't show up in any Nolan movies after Memento, which is just an amazing sliding door. Yeah. You could think of so many different parts that he could have played.

Could have been Batman, could have been any of the villains, could have been in, you know, Inception, could have been in Interstellar, you could have seen him in Dunkirk, you could have seen him in any of those movies. Yeah. Yeah. Try to think of who he would be in Inception. Tom Hardy. Oh. He's a very similar kind of thing. Not as burly, obviously, but that kind of charming, darling thing.

You could see Guy Pearce doing that. Right? We would lose Tom Hardy in Inception, though. He could have been Joseph Gordon-Levitt in that movie. He might be a little older, but change the character of Smitch. Yeah, he might have been a little old at that point. I don't know. Could have been Kenneth Branagh and Dunkirk, you know? Yes.

Why not? Could have been Kenneth Branagh and Tenet. That would have been a better movie. Oh, oh, yeah. I mean, Kenneth Branagh's pretty good in both of them, to be honest. He's super hammy in Tenet. I mean, it fits the movie. Yeah, but it's like he's on like a yacht being arrested. He's Roman Abramovich.

Yeah, he's supposed to be. Yeah. Who would he be in Interstellar? Damon? Mmm... No, Interstellar. I haven't seen that in a long time. He would be... Yeah, honestly, like, I mean, like, unless you were gonna give him McConaughey, I guess he would be David. Yeah, it's really the only choice.

Is there no other male co-leader supporting Andrew? You haven't gotten involved in the interstellar, like, revival? Not revival, but... No, I watched it during COVID and tried to have as open a heart as possible. And I like it. I just don't love it. And I know that for many people, it is like the apex of movie making in the 2010s. But it's a movie that just does too much explaining for me.

Feels very overridden. That's just me. I wish nothing but the best for all the interstellar boys and girls. Can you imagine if you got to another planet and Sean was there with a podcast set up? It was just you and him potting, waiting for me to come. Suggesting that's not what it feels like for Amanda right now. Yeah, it's like that's... She goes home to the aliens and then she comes here

with another alien. Yeah. Well, guys, thank you very much. Thanks for listening to The Big Picture. I hope you're having a wonderful Monday in America. Uh, thank you to Bobby Wagner, our producer, for his work on this episode. Thanks to Jack Sanders for his work. Later this week, we will be talking about the Academy Award

nominations. The Academy just sent me an email that says, we are in fact holding our event on Thursday, January 23rd to announce, they actually shared the order in which the Oscar nominations will be announced. Wow. Who is presenting them? I didn't read that far in the email. Shall I pull it up again? Yeah, let's do it. Okay. Please hold. It does not say.

Okay. Great. Good job. I guess they're waiting. Or maybe they don't know yet. Do you think that they should have you and I do it? With live commentary on each award nomination? Yeah.

Do you think that would do well? So you can no sell Kieran Colkin's nomination? Listen, I wish him the best. I really liked, uh, the profile of him in New York Magazine promoting a real pain and Emma Stone's, you know... Yeah, reverse psychology. That's all great. I just, I would give the Oscar elsewhere. That's all. Chris, where are you going after this?

I have to go pick up some frames, like some paintings that have been framed. It's been a long process. And I was going to maybe get a turkey sandwich. Turkey sandwich? From? Cookbook. Oh, that's a really good turkey sandwich.

And Larchmont. Does that mean you'll be having sex in between those two acts? It's about 20 blocks between the framing store and Larchmont. Anything can happen. So Cheetah's in that zone. What about you, Amanda? What are you gonna be doing this afternoon? I was gonna go see Hard Truce.

Oh, that's nice. I'm going to see The Brutalist. Oh, wow. How many times is this now? Must be my third time. And can I just ask why you're seeing it? Or just because, like, you're like, I have... I'm... The next time that we speak, barring another act of God, I will have seen the Brutalist.

The next time we speak to each other? I'm certain that's not true. I'll be texting you in like two hours. Well, I was trying to include everyone who's listening this far. The next time you guys talk together. Talk into a microphone in person. The next time that we are all here together,

and that's the we that includes this wonderful community that we've built here at the Big Picture. The royal we. I will have seen The Brutalist. Okay. I'm gonna try my best. What do you think will happen after that happens? I don't know. What if I love it?

I could. I would honestly be surprised if you were like, this is bad. I don't... I'm not in that bad head space. Ba-da-da-da! Thank you for listening to The Big Picture. We'll see you soon.