The Big Picture - The 26 Most Anticipated Movies of 2026

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

Sean and Amanda kick off the New Year by counting down their 26 most anticipated movies of 2026. But before diving in, they do a major run-through of all the things they missed over the holiday break, including a recap of their time off (0:38), box office totals (12:05), and awards (20:36). Then, they dive into their list (46:39). Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Producer: Jack Sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I'm Sean Fennessey. I'm Amanda Dobbins. And this is the Big Picture at Conversation Show about the most anticipated movies of the year. It's been two full weeks since we recorded an episode of this podcast. We are ready for a new year of movies. Consider this your mega preview. Amanda and I will each share. 13, really more like 313 new movies that are coming out?

Whose fault is that? Well, there's a lot of stuff coming, which I'm excited about. But since it's been two weeks, what did we miss? How was your break? It was long, which, you know, I feel lucky to be able to spend that much time with my children. And also never understood the parents being so psyched that school is back feeling more than in this moment, you know? which is, it happens to all of us. I hope your school is back.

L-A-U-S-D, not back. Not back till next week. I feel free, you guys. Yeah, that's a tricky one. Yeah, thank you to my preschool. Yeah, how was yours? Fine, I saw you a lot, so it's not really, let's not perform the mystery of what could have transpired over those two weeks.

No, it was good. We're in a new era, I think, with my child where it's not as painful to be managing. I also don't have a one-year-old, so, you know, it was fun. It was exhausting in a way We don't have any family out here And we didn't go to the movies very much Which was interesting We watched a lot of movies

But this has been a very long stretch For me to not be in a movie theater I'm usually there two, three times a week So that was kind of fascinating We did have a pretty steady schedule though Watching stuff at home Yeah, I wanted to play a game with you Let's play.

Which is, so your winter break Or winter school break in three movies Number one, the movie you watch the most Okay Number two, the movie you discussed the most. And number three, what movie best describes your experience? Number one, you were already like, I don't have an answer for that. I don't want to play.

Well, it's not that I don't have an answer because we have a nice thing going where my daughter is not asking to re-watch movies over and over again at the moment. She's been very willing to try new movies. So, for example, over the last two days, we watched the Empire Strikes Back. Yeah. Because we're doing Star Wars now every Saturday over the course of the next 10 weeks. We're doing every Star Wars film, which is really exciting. Starting with a New Hope three weeks ago, and then we just did Empire Strikes Back. And then next week we'll do Return to the Jedi, following week, we'll do phantom menace.

At the Academy Museum. Yeah, not just, I mean, you know. At the Academy Museum. And then yesterday we watched Honey I Shrunk the Kids. Oh, interesting. Which was pretty interesting. I would say went over fairly well. And we're trying to navigate live action in an interesting way.

So those were two really good first-time experiences. Honey Eye blew up the kids is really more like what my vacation has been like. You know, there's definitely some like a little, but I would say my, my daughter is very, is online right now. Like she is a person. Okay. And full sentences. She's not blogging. She's not on the internet.

You're like she's a poster. No, she's booted up like the way that Megan has booted up, you know, from the Megan films. And she is, you know, she could murder you if she wanted to. Like, she has a lot of agency, I would say, which is helpful in many ways, does have some downsides. And so we haven't seen, honey, I blow up the kids yet. But there is, like, she's in control of a lot at the moment and is very strong. What was the third question? The movie that you discussed the most, or, like, texted about or heard from people about.

Oh, like, in the world at large? Yeah, or, you know, at Christmas. Easily Marty Supreme. easily, for better and for worse, I think, because is that the same for you? That's also my answer. I, you know, just confronted by a lot of people being like, well, I've seen your little Instagram real and now I need to tell you my full experience. Yeah, which is, I think, a good thing.

That's great. Yeah, that's good. And then, I mean, I did mostly stay offline, but I was confronted. Some of the takes got through to me. And I just, I think we all need to heal. Yeah. I Everyone's really worked up about it

That's always a good sign Right this has happened a couple It happened a couple times in 2025 It happened when sinners came out It happened when one battle after another came out When movies become flashpoints And especially movies like this That kind of capture the cinephile crowd

Yeah But then also regular moviegoers are like Hmm Timothy Shalamee I have to get interested in this And then so you get these collisions of taste And yeah I got some feedback that Maybe we were too enthusiastic Or not enthusiastic enough

Or you know I think we have to probably keep talking about that movie? Well, we'll get into that. I hope so. I really liked it. I did have a lot of personal interactions of people just being like, yes, hello, and now I would like to dialogue for 30 minutes about this, which I really enjoyed. Then, you know, all of the, is he a good person, bad person stuff, I just like, go have fun.

I'm like, I'm begging you, children of the world, you are young, go have fun. and don't make all of the decisions he makes. I'm not endorsing them, but, like, let go. And then there was some stuff about the dog, which, like, I just can't get into, you know? What was the stuff? I don't know. I think that there are a lot of people who are really upset

with how the treatment of the dog. Moses, the dog? In the film? Well, it wasn't, they didn't treat him well. Oh, agree. No one treated him well, I would say. That's true. I don't really think anybody was treated well in this film. So, like, I'm with you.

I would agree. I would agree. You know, the people, really responding to the dog stuff more than the ending was an interesting dichotomy to me. I want to talk about the Marty Supreme Breaking contained from the A-24 world a little bit more with you, but what are the two answers to the first two questions for you? Oh, sure. The film I watched most was Star Wars A New Hope because after telling you about my experience with the Mandalorian and Grogu trailer,

you gave my child a small Grogu for Christmas. along with a little I guess that's a bed Is that what he sleeps in? It's really more of like his hovercraft But that very quickly got kind of destroyed by the children in the house So it's back

It's together and it's now understood to be his boat It is sort of his boat You know he kind of floats through the world Alongside the Mandalorian So it is sort of it's his hover boat Right so that's Grogo is what he's called in our house

I love it And the boat. Because he's on the go? Is that the idea? We're going to get through, like, some pronunciation quirks in the Star Wars universe. It's rancor, not rancor. So we keep watching Star Wars A New Hope. On the second viewing, I was asked, or I was told, Mama, do not film the credits or me because I was making content the first time he watched Star Wars.

Film the credits? Yes. Oh, yeah. The scroll. He's like, Mama, don't do that. Okay. Then... Well, this Star Wars, it changes a person. Yeah.

Then he kept asking where Groga was. I asked him to explain to me what happens in Star Wars, and he says, dark, D-A-R-K, Vader, has a meeting. He's describing the scene in which he strangles someone. It is a meeting of sorts. And all the aliens play music, which is the... Absolutely true. The canteen has made an impression on him and everybody else. So far, so good.

Seems more interested in stormtroopers than real people, which is worrying. Really not into Han, like, at all, which I was very confused by. It's red flag. I agree. Chubacca, he's, you know, but I think, like, he shows up and, again, Han's introduction is in the canteena. And so you have to understand the affinity that my son has for the racist aliens playing music because they're playing music. Did you explain to him what the Kessel Run was? Because he likes it when things go fast.

He, to, in support of Tracy Letts, it was like four viewings before he actually made it through the end of the movie. He like, noticeably left every single time. And yesterday morning, we made it all the way through. And I heard my husband be like, hey, Luke just blew up the, like, the Death Star. Did you see that? And it's just like silence from Knox. Interesting. You know, but he's very interested in, he was like, where's Java?

So. I've got a, I'm going to develop a Lego play. plan to get him interested in a series of different characters. I know, but we can't, his size can eat all the Legos. So it's like... Duplos. We'll start with Duplos. Do they make Star Wars duplos? I'm certain that they do.

Yeah. Anyway, I'm in hell, but we've watched that a lot. And then... Star Wars is the best. The best. The first three films is magic. He definitely is locked into it. And now we're trying to figure out, like, his empire too dark for him. Thought it went over well. There were a couple really scary parts. We can talk about it more as we go through this Star Wars journey. This is a good thing for us to be checking in on.

Yeah. we do next um there's two really scary things in in empire and two really scary things in jedi and do you need to cover your children's eyes that's a whole other episode of this show but okay so you watch star wars the most and then what was the second one uh the best describes my uh was definitely if i had legs i'd kick you um everyone's fine and and that's and also no shots at my husband who's very present and supportive it was more that i did find myself once in a parking lot, screaming at the CVS robot on the phone just being like, let me talk to a pharmacist, just screaming representative, like, psychotically, like full break

over and over again, just because I needed to find out the pharmacy hours on New Year's Eve so I could get my child antibiotics. And there was no way. I couldn't get through. But it was me in a parking lot having something of a break with AI. Well, this is why we make films, right? Art can represent our experiences. We can see the world through the eyes of others and it makes us feel more sane.

Yeah. So thank you to Mary Bronstine for seeing Amanda this year. What was yours? The movie that most explains, Mike. What describes? I really have a clever answer to this question. I... I...

I think I was thinking a lot about how nice. it was to not be watching movies for assignment. Sure. So, you know, maybe the Big Lebowski, who's just kind of floating through life, not really worried about earning a paycheck, not really worried about doing anything other than hanging with loved ones. And now welcome back to help. Yeah, well, yeah, last night I fired up a film, the film I really like that we're going

to talk about later this month on the show, but I did feel like I was back at work. Yes. And it was a great break, and I'm, but I'm, and I'm really excited about it. a lot of what we're going to be talking about today because I do think that there's some reasons to be hopeful about movies. There's some reasons to be a little bit skeptical, obviously, as there are every year, but

I'd like to celebrate as much as we can this year. The original intention of this show is to celebrate. We now are in a place where, really, because of me, like we cover pretty much everything that comes out in America. But I'm hopeful that we will have more good weeks than bad weeks in terms of new releases. We have a lot of exciting things on this.

We also have things that we had to divvy up. You know, where you, and you have some things on your list, and I was like, oh, I really wanted that. Which is exciting, at least, in that there's some shared taste and some, you know, we've identified the big picture points of 2026. I think much like last year, there were a number, there are a number of films from filmmakers who we really care about, who have new movies coming out. So we can talk about that. But before we do that, like, let's talk about what transpired over the holidays in terms of box office, because it's fairly interesting. It was a very successful two weeks.

stretch of movies released into the world. We talked about virtually every one of the major releases. We talked about Marty Supreme, Anaconda, Song Song Blue. You know, Avatar, Fire, and Ash is probably the best place to start because the total box office this year was up 1% over 2024, which is not amazing, although if you factor in Michael, the Michael Jackson biopic getting bumped, and you factor in World Combat getting bumped at the last minute to next year. It actually was a pretty decent year at the box office all things considered I think next year, this year I should say is going to be huge

in part because Avatar Fire and Ash will still be playing and the movie is over $1 billion in 18 days it's made $770 million internationally in 18 days we don't we don't doubt Big Jim

no there's really never been a reason to I mean the movie is probably on pace for close to what I predicted I think I predicted one point seven maybe one point six on the episode do you remember what i said no i don't okay so maybe i didn't even make a proper prediction but in my head i was thinking i think we both guessed under two billion yes and then whether it's you know so none of that money will be coming to me so i i didn't worry about the point six versus point seven it will be going to disney which we'll talk about too so if the movie gets to one point seven then that means that four of the ten highest grossing movies of all time

domestically or or excuse me internationally worldwide or james cameron movies yeah titanic and three Avatar films. Good job, Big Jim. That's pretty crazy. It is. To be so tapped into the mainframe of narrative interest worldwide. I think so. At least for the first two, it's, there is a little bit with this one of, it feels like he built the structure of Avatar needing to dominate the box office and also everyone clearing out for it. And so like not quite like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Sure. And again, he built that structure and reheated it after 10 years with the second one. It's a chicken or the egg question because obviously as soon as this movie got dated, everyone ran away from it.

Exactly. Like there's not really a major studio release that would be competing with the movie until the Bone Temple, the 28 years later sequel, which comes out January 16th. So you're talking about a month where like, you know, not to discriminate too heavily, but young male audiences, there's not a ton of movies for them. And so this movie is going to continue to play worldwide. strongly for a long time. And then even after Bone Temple, it's like weathering heights and Scream 7 in February, it's going to be a complicated

couple months. Yeah. I mean, Avatar got way ahead of movies as events slash amusement park experiences where it's like a thing that you do three or four times a year and you have to do it in theater and everybody knows that.

And, you know, I guess in many ways is like paving a road for other people. I don't know if it's a road any of us want to be on but if you're not James Cameron it's just really hard to do you know like there's just a certain level of craft and like we saw like michael man for example cited this movie as his favorite movie of the year i think it was variety that published a bunch of filmmakers that talked about their favorite movies of the year some hilarious choices some interesting choices man loves the avatar movies he named avatar one of his favorite movies of all time and filmmakers

really like this movie because they don't really it's something new it's like something that they've not done before they admire someone like going to a new realm of creativity so there's still like a lot of admiration for it this one did feel a little iterative as we talked about in our episode about it it did feel a little samey from two so i don't hold it personally is in as high esteem same though i spoke to people over the break who liked this more than the second one oh really i don't know that's odd i thought so as well but you know everyone gets to have their opinion it is more of a mega action movie there is a tremendous amount of action because of right the fire people also you know if you're horny for verang

that's a thing right jack yeah he's in on that thank you Disney did dominate this year so after six weekends at 1.6 billion Zootopia 2 is now the number three animated release of all time it passed Frozen 2

which if you had asked me two weeks ago what is the movie that we watched the most in my house Frozen 2 it would be Frozen 2 I did discuss it a lot with Alice over the break Frozen 2 is the talisman that is the movie that describes her being I asked Alice what she liked about Frozen 2 instead of Frozen, and she said there are a lot of lyrics.

There are a great number of lyrics that I hear frequently sung in my living space. Inside Out 2 is the number 2 animated film of all time, and Nejah 2 is the number 1. That also came out this year, primarily made its money overseas. I started to watch it on HBO Max over the break. Turned it off. I thought it was boring. Didn't see Neijah, kind of missing some of the references, you know. Lilo and Stitch, Zootopia 2, Fire and Ash, three Marvel movies.

Okay. Big year for Disney. Great, yeah. You're happy for Disney? Creativity alive. I'm inspired, you know, a remake of an animated movie that takes away women's agency and then another movie about a patent. So that's great.

I love what we're giving to our children. I enjoyed Zootopia, too. Marty Supreme, we mentioned this earlier, $56 million in nine days domestically plus international distribution, which the movie's not out yet internationally for the most far, is already pre-sold. This movie's going to make. over 80 million, maybe over 100. I think Jack was like, what if it's 37?

Right. And I was like, oh, that would just be a disaster. That was the low end of the tracking. It was bad. We burst past that in one and a half weekends. Number three, all time for 824 already, behind everything ever all at once in Civil War. Shalemi sold the fuck out of this movie.

Sure did. You know, I don't know if it's going to be one of the greatest hits of all time. It was a fairly expensive movie, but this is pretty good for a two and a half hour period piece. I'm feeling it. Pretty exciting. Housemade is even bigger than Morgan.

Okay. Housemade, which we think is not very good. No. Has made $92 million worldwide in three weekends. Sidney Sweeney off the Schneid. She's back. Congratulations to her. Yeah.

What do you think this tells us the success of this movie? That women like trash too, you know? And women like their version trash. As I said, I didn't have... This is your Captain America Brave New World. have a terrible time at this film. Obviously, we had some notes. Someone cited this online, so I can't remember who it is, so forgive me for not giving this person credit, but I do hope that Hollywood realizes that we did used to do this all

the time, which is just like, there's a popular book that people read on beaches and just adapted and make it a movie with hot young people, and we'll go see it. Like, this was the blueprint for 25 years. And there's no reason why we can't go back to this. Like, The Colleen Hoover phenomenon is that. They are doing it. We're going to talk a little bit about the Emily Henry phenomenon, which is starting this week. I wish in general that the movies were, the books they were pulling from were, like, slightly better. Though, listen, I reread the Pelican brief a few years ago, and it's not great.

It's not Anna Krenina. No, but Page Turner's, you know, they're plot machines. That's the whole point, right? And this is meant to be a... And still, it was also Al Pacula who directed that. It's not his best work, but still. So we could aim a little bit higher, but it's good that we're trying. I think it's a good start, and I think it's a good thing to keep banging the drum about.

Because this kind of defeats what you were citing about Avatar, which is the housemaid is not a one, like one of my three movies of the year kind of a movie. It's very true. It's a movie that people have thought of for the last five or so years as a streaming movie. And it can be a lot of fun to go see a movie like this in a movie theater. I didn't have as much fun as you did. but if done well enough, it's a nice night out. Right. Though also, if we had been able to work our schedules to have that be the holiday party,

we would have had a great time. Might have been a kinder review if I'd had a couple of margaritas. Right. You know? I still am so mad we didn't see regretting you together. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll have reminders of him soon.

No, that's not the one. I mean, that is soon. But there's another one I just, I just absolutely can't wait for it. Okay. Let's do some quick award season check. Because we had two notable, I guess, awards handed out. One was the National Society of Film Critics, gave their awards on Saturday, and then on Sunday we had the Critics' Choice Awards. I did not watch the telecast for Critics' Choice, but we can talk about some of the results.

I saw some of the speeches online. National Society of Film Critics, one battle after another one best picture. Yes. This is notable, I guess, because it makes one battle one of only three, one of only four other, three other films that locked down the sort of four major critics, national groups, the New York Film Critics Circle, L.A. Film Critics, the National Board of Review, which is not really a critical body,

but is thought to have some critics in it. And then National Society of Film Critics, they all gave one battle after another best film. The three other times that's happened, Schindler's List, L.A. Confidential, and as we discussed in our social network episode, the social network. Right.

So that's rare air. However, it's not necessarily. necessarily predictive of a best picture win. In fact, right now, it's one of three. Correct. One battle could tip it to 50%. Yes. But, yeah.

And these are critics awards for the most part, so they don't really tell us anything about what the academy is thinking. And I want to kind of use that as a lens to look through these most recent items because we feel like we know everything about what's going to happen. Yeah, I'm aware. I don't think we know. Yeah. That is my essence.

But I don't think we know anything. You don't. I think that there's an opportunity in the next few weeks as we start to get a few more awards, bodies weighing in that are from within the industries that are going to tip some things in a specific direction. So by that you mean DGAs, PGAs. SAG. SAG. And, you know, the Golden Globes are next week, which are, as we have said over and over again, made up. And then also recently just kind of coattailing what all of like the critics and conventional

wisdom is. Yeah. But because of the categories split, you're going to get an opportunity for a few people to get a moment who might not, which I do think at least puts films or performances in front of people and voters in a way. So like I agree with you that we don't really know anything. Chris Ryan yesterday was asking me like when does award season? really, really start for you. And I said, like, I guess you could say this weekend because

there was the Palm Springs International Gala Film Festival extravaganza to which everyone but Leonardo DiCaprio made it. You know, sometimes you just can't get air clearance from the yacht. And then the Critics Choice Awards, which kind of aren't usually a thing that we pay this much attention to, but because of the way the holidays fell this year and the fact that the Golden Globes went on are going a week later they they took advantage of the vacuum it also felt like that this Palm Springs gala is not usually the same level of attention or I don't see as many red carpet pictures but everyone it's very star studded this year um I think it coming on the heels of the critics choice means a lot of people were kind of pinged back and forth but but I think both

events saw okay we've got this weekend that is after new year's people are going to start coming to Los Angeles and the Globes are not on that weekend exactly so you could say in terms of, like, campaigning, it started this weekend. But I said to Chris, I think Golden Globes is when it really starts. I think you're right. And I think they have some impact insofar as that your kind of common voter will look at who the winners are and say like, okay, these are the front runners. And we can talk about that in the aftermath of it.

And the split categories allows what already feels like a wheat and chaffier where it's like three or four films are really competing at the top of the race. And then everything else is just feels a little happy to be there. We'll go through the rest of the Society of Film Critics Award. So one battle won, PTA won for director. Yeah. The National Society of Film Critics does provide vote breakdowns. They do, which is wonderful. Yeah, which is wonderful and I think are interesting.

So one battle after another won in a landslide. It has 57 points, and the runners-up were sinners with 29 and the secret agent with 27, which I think is telling what the runners-up are, but also that there is a real chasm. Not a real chasm, but like there is distance. between. You don't see that distance in almost any other category. PTA won with 54 points, the runners up, were Jafar Panahi with 48 points and Richard Link later for both Blue Moon and Nouvellebag, 39 points. But so I think Jafar Panahi being that close is telling... I agree. I think he's also a very strong contender for Best Director. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Kathleen Chalfant

from familiar touch, like a very classic film critic thing. That's great. And that's Cool, and that's what critics' bodies should do. 45 points, and then Rose Byrne from If I Had Legs, I'd kick you, 39 points, and Renada Rensby, sentimental value, 37 points. So it's like, everything's very close, tight. But Jesse Buckley, not being there is like, that's a critical move because there's an inevitability about that win. That's one of the very few races where I feel very strongly that it is over. It's done. Maybe the only race that I feel like is locked.

I don't know. And Golden, winning best song. Yes, that's true. Those are the two that I'm like, these are happening and everything else. I could be wrong. You never know. No, I think that this vote is in part

a reflection of the inevitability. And also, Hamlet has been a little bit more divisive critically, you know? That's true. I think it's going to do very well in the awards race, but there are some critics who really have not gone for it. Yeah.

Best supporting actress, Tiana Taylor, one with 56 points, a very close race. Yeah. With Inga Ibstot or Lilius from sentimental value, you said 47 points. That's tight. Yeah, and then Wumi Masaki is also a runner-up, 41 points. I'm curious to see if she gets nominated.

That's also going to be a tough spot for her to get in. So it feels like there's some kind of boosting going on there. Best actor, Blue Moon, Ethan Hawk. Very interesting. What, I mean. Well, in the best. The best actor and best actress categories, you know, none of the frontrunners are present. Well, that's not true because Wagner Mora is the runner up with 43 points.

And I think you really just, we'll talk about it again on Sunday after the Golden Globes. Okay. But I, you know, I mean, you were the first one to say, you've really got to watch this space. And you got to keep watching this space. One of my takeaways from this whole weekend has been that the Secret Agent is very strong. Yes. And so, but we're still just in the critical. groups, and that's a critics movie, written and directed by a former critic.

No, I love that movie. But also, we're the critics, this is an American critic's bodies. Critics Choice Awards is very American and like really not internationally inclined, even in its nominees. Sure. So Brazil is very strong in the academy. Exactly. Yes, we know.

Come to Brazil. Yeah. You know what? I would be very happy with a Wagner win. I think he's tremendous in that movie. So I'm just a little, I know these, we know these moves. We know these moves as list makers as edit. editorial people. Of course. For Timothy Chalemay and Leonardo DiCaprio did not be cited.

Best supporting actor, Benicio del Toro. Yeah. You feel less certain about this than you do about Jesse Buckley? I do. This category is a little confusing to me. I worry that Benicio and Sean Penn will, I don't worry. I think Benito and Sean Penn could cancel each other out. It's possible. I just clip my clip right now. I know you've already clipped it, but just like put it, get it ready for and that's fine. When that happens? Yeah. Okay. I feel confident. Oh, that it's going to happen. Yeah. Oh, okay. It's possible. Obviously, he's wonderful in the movie. Delroy Lindo at number two with 37 points, Stell and Scars Guard for sentimental value at 30 points.

Screenplay also went to Panahi. Robert Kaplow's Blue Moon script and Claibor Mendoza Filio's Secret Agent script is there. Best film in the English language, not in the English language, is the Secret Agent. By one point, it was just an accident. And it does sort of feel like, all right, we'll do screenplay. we'll do, you know, not in the English language. They'll divvy up the words. They're passing them around.

Best non-fiction film, My Undesirable Friends, Part 1, Last Air in Moscow. You know, look for this one as the winner in this category. This is a very, very good film. It's just the question of will people sit through it? Will they sit through the five hours of the film? And if they will, I think it's kind of a hard movie to turn away from in a lot of ways. Best Cinematography went to Autumn D'Arald-Aucapal for sinners. Very deserving win.

We saw Adolfo Veloso for Train Dreams Come and. second here, he won the Critics Choice Awards. It's kind of an interesting battle. I don't know. If that's going to translate. Yeah, there's a little bit of trickiness with Michael Bauman for one battle after another because there's this belief that sort of Michael Bowman and Paul Thomas Anderson and also their chief cameraman who Ben Affleck talked about, Marty Supreme with Colin Anderson, that they make

like this triumvirate of cinematographers together on the film. And I wonder if somehow Michael Bowman will get dinged for that in some of the voting. but so you could see really a chance for sinners or train dreams to get some love there. Critics Choice Awards. I'll go through this a little more quickly. Yeah. One battle, one best picture. Yes.

It's pretty much won every best picture race of note thus far. Best actor Timothy Shalame. Did you see the speech? Oh, I sure did. First of all, he also missed the credit sequence of sinners. Thank you so much, Timothy Shalame. Wow. I feel seen.

Huge for you. He did go back a second time. Did you? Yeah, not yet. Okay. I really need to. I it was nice he seemed nervous which was confusing yeah I mean he said he was nervous yeah that was odd yeah that was very sweet it's like he's moved out of the marty mode now

he's no longer campaigning as marty like I don't know whether someone I'm afraid he read the comments you know and I don't want him to read the comments because he also made that comment he made that thank you to Josh Safdi you know you present people who do good things and bad things and you don't judge. And I was just like, oh, no. Like, I know you're a poster, but you got to put up your wall. Yeah. You think he has notifications on?

I hope not. I mean, I know that that generation is pretty crazy with their attention. But Jack, do you have notifications of any kind on on your phone? Yes, of course. What, like, but for what? New York Mets updates. Okay. Texts from my girlfriend.

Okay. I mean, texts don't count. Texts are allowed. What about social media? Anything else? Or apps? The only social media notifications I get are Twitter for sports-related information. But is it filtered for sports-related information?

Yeah, I choose what notifications I receive. So, Jeff Passon, yes, Chris Ryan, no. Okay. That, too, is my hierarchy. Okay. I can live with that, though I don't want you to add anything else. Okay. I think Chalemay also made an effort to cite his co-nominees.

in the category in an effort to kind of like pull back on some of the marty aggressiveness. And I wonder if he is to win this coming Sunday when we see a more demure or humble Timothy Chalomey. Hard to say. His look right now is extremely funny, like the short hair and the mustache. It's an awkward regrowth length, you know, and that happens to everyone when you cut your hair off. You know, like you get in the middle there and there's no way out but through. I really want to do it. I just really want to. Buzz your... Yeah, I really want to do it.

Okay. I mean, to quote Little Women, your one great beauty is your hair, but it's really good. You still have all of it? I do. There's no transplant going on here, everyone. This is 100% natural. I don't know. I'm just trying to help you out here.

I'm boosting you. I just am sick of it. Listen, I get it. I'm sick of it. But what are you sick of? There's not even that much of it. It's just, I just want to be free. I just want to get away, you know?

I just want to make enough money so I can get away. Best actors. I thought it was sweet when he talked to Kylie. It wasn't. It was nice. I think that she could have been a little more demonstrative in response, but I guess it's awkward. Yeah, they're public now, right? That's something I learned.

That's a thing that can happen or not happen. Best actress, Jesse Buckley. That was great. And then her Paul Meskell stuff was truly lovely. He wet. Well, yeah, he blushed. and then he wept. It was a great combo.

He's special. Best director, Paul Thomas Anderson. Yeah? He was quite moved as well. And actually, when Best Picture, when the film won for Best Picture, Tiana Taylor was a bit rough at PTA. She was firing him up, you know? She was like he was getting ready to go out after halftime, you know, and go battle.

Original screenplay Couglar for sinners, adapted screenplay PTA for one battle. Here's some interesting wins. Yes. Supporting actor and actor. actress or actor Jacob Allorty for Frankenstein and for actress Amy Madigan for weapons. Yes. Two horror films. Mm-hmm.

Sort of. Two folks. I mean, they are. Sure. Two monster movies for sure. Two candidates who are in the race, for sure, who have been widely critically praised. Yeah. Who most people do not think are at the front of the line in their races.

No. Do you think this matters at all? I think that. No, I don't. I feel that they both will be nominated, but I felt that before Critics' Choice. I think, if anything, this indicates that Normies really like Frankenstein. They just really do. And I think you and I and many other people have scratched our heads at the... The Normie voters of the Critics' Choice Awards, you're saying? Yeah, and people in general. It was not for us, but people still...

And so that that film is just kind of stronger. I mean, I think his performance is excellent, though. We talked about that, too. Yeah, no, but I don't think he's going to win supporting act. I don't think so either. Amy Madigan, you never know. It could happen. A well-run campaign, that can happen.

Yeah. That sort of thing has happened before. I'm trying to think of what the win was. She was wearing Dior. So that was cool also. Uh, hmm. And Ethan Hawk was wearing Bodian and looked amazing. This concludes my fashion report.

And Tim Simons had a nice velvet jacket on. Tim looked great. He looked so good. He was smoking it out there. What was the race? There was a race some time ago. Oh, I remember very vividly watching the 1993 Academy Awards for the 1992 films. And best supporting actress that year, here were the nominees.

Miranda Richardson for a film called Damage, Vanessa Redgrave for Howard's End, Joan Plowright for Enchanted April, Judy Davis. for husbands and wives. Now, four, you know, seasoned, acclaimed actors. And Marissa Tomei from my cousin Vinnie. And Marissa Tomei won for my cousin Vinnie in what was thought to be like a surprising win. There was some conspiracy about it in the aftermath,

but totally deserving. And I remember having a feeling for Joan Plowright that night. That was very unusual. When I was like, this poor woman who at the time, I guess, was, there was only 64. She wasn't that old. But she seemed, compared to Marisitomey, she seemed very old.

And it was like, Joan Plow Wright's, you know, probably never going to have another chance to win an Academy Award. She didn't win an Academy Award. It was her only nomination. You know, notably married to Lawrence Olivier

for decades. Right. And Amy Madigan is in that spot of like you can't, is she going to be nominated again? Probably not. No. And so when people are looking Tiana Taylor,

they're looking Ingha Ibstotter Lilius or, you know, they're looking at down the list. Yeah, but the Inger Ibson, Starder Lillias thing is very strong. You know, PTA and the directors roundup singled her out as well. Of course. Of course. She's wonderful in it.

A movie about a damaged family. Of course, Paul Thomas Anderson loves that movie. Come on. Listen, I get it. I love to see that. But, and again. To be praising movies like that that you're competing against is I always love when filmmakers do that. Anytime the director does that, I think that's great.

That's why I asked that question at the end of the episodes Because I'm very curious like what they on And if somebody doesn't say a movie that's just come out Yeah You know that tells you a little bit Yeah But again this is not an international Like voting body

This is even within the nominees There are not as many international Films represented in the actors Or in the best picture category So I think you got to I think she's coming And then that starts to The numbers break down

of who goes for Tiana Taylor versus Amy Madigan versus Engaibstetter. Yeah. I don't know quite yet. It's an interesting one. Best casting and ensemble. Nice to see this. Francine Maisler,

a legendary casting director who cast sinners, which is incredibly worthy of this award. This is going to be a fun one to track. Yeah. I want to do a full episode about this and have a couple of casting directors on the show to talk about it. And then you and I can kind of talk about

what we think is effective in all of these nominees. We have to wait until after the, Oscar nominees come out, but when you look at sinners and you look at one battle and you look at Marty Supreme, you look at the secret agent, like the films that are going to be competing in this award are really interesting. I learned over the weekend. I didn't realize this when we talked about are the short lists that it was just an accident was not submitted for best casting, which is why it was not on that short list. I think because there was probably no formal casting director, it sounds like, on the film. So there was not a name to submit. But that's like,

there's a lot of details to a new award. We should spend some time talking through it. Because it is a mysterious art identifying the right person. I like that the critic's choice also does this. Best Foreign Language Film also went to Secret Agent. This is a lot of wins for the Secret Agent. It's really, really happening. I was tickled over the weekend to see that in the deliberations for the National Society of Film Critics,

I think it was David Rooney who shared that Jonia Sebastiana from the Secret Agent, Tanya Maria, is her name. was, like, higher than you would expect in supporting category, which, I mean, she's wonderful, too. She's incredible in that movie. That would be a cool campaign. Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't know whether that's going to happen, but just that there was enough awareness and excitement for that film that a small but memorable role would be in the supporting actress category. Again, as you said, it's a critic's body, like they're trying to get creative, but it's, yeah, but it's sticking with people. Yeah. K-pop Demon Hunter's one best animated feature. Stay tuned to that.

Best Comedy, The Naked Gun. Do we need a best comedy category? What? Could you pick five comedies from last year? Like, could you fill out the ballot with deserving comedies? Jurassic World Rebirth. Okay. One.

It's completely rude. No, I mean, sure. Jonathan Bailey loved that dinosaur. Yeah, and it was a laugh riot. Best production design went to Frankenstein. Best editing went to F1. Best costume design also to Frankenstein. That's right.

Best hair and makeup also to Frankenstein. See, this is what I'm... That may transpire over the... I mean, Deltore always really strong with the below the line groups. And Frankenstein's going to be not, it's going to get six nominations for sure. Best visual effects went to Avatar Fire and Ash.

Of course, I would expect that to be the case of the Oscars. Best Sound went to F1. We'll also be competing very strongly there. We mentioned cinematography, went to Adolfo Veloso for Train Dreams. Best song Golden, best score a little bit of Granson for sinners. Could be three for three?

Would be deserving. Would be deserving. I mean, we had the Marty Supreme score. on in the home a lot over the last two weeks. I did as well. Yeah. I got Alice listening to it a lot and she was like, Dad, this is very peaceful. Oh, okay. She found it very calming. There is a kind of

ENIA quality to some of the tracks. For sure. Best stunt design, Wade Eastwood for Mission Impossible to Final Reckoning. Revisited that film over the break. Didn't go well for me. Best young actor or actress, Miles Caton for Catton for Cinners. I'd like to have a breakthrough performance

at the Oscars, as you know. Yeah, absolutely. We don't have that. So DGA and SAG nominations coming later this week. We won't be recording an episode on Thursday when both of those come out. Right. So we won't be able to talk about those until next, probably maybe the Golden Globes episode. Yeah, but they'll be useful in that context. And the Golden Globes episode will really be like, okay, where are we?

Yes. A couple things to cite, mostly just for DGA that I think people should look for. I don't really know what's going on in this race. It seems like it's set up and chalky to be PTA, Kugler, Chloe Zhao, Jafar, Jafar Panahi, and Yokim Trir. Yeah. That seems like the five. And then the two people on the outsider, Josh Safdi and Guillermo del Toro. I think from the betting markets perspective, those are the DGA nominees.

Maybe Filio is in the mix there as well if the Secret Agent is stronger. If that happens, then you can be like, okay, Secret Agent is super strong. But DGA is really unpredictable and has an odd history with international filmmakers. So, for example, Alfonso Quaron won for Roma, but then Bong Joon Ho did not win for Parasite. Sam Mendi's won that year for 1917, the following year. So last year, Jacques Odiard got in, but they put Edward Berger, who was also an international filmmaker, but that was an English-language film in Conclave over Corley Farcia. Right.

You don't really know, like last year, James Mangold was in with DGA. That was a little bit of a surprise. And then that turned out that he was in at the Oscars. And that's adjusted strength of the Academy. For a complete unknown. It's never five to five. Almost a very rare. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Very rare. And, you know, I think some years, international, there have been international surprises that then do show up at the, in the Academy nominees. And then sometimes they switch around. Some years they just, like, forget about women. So, you know, but it's, it's mostly predictive. but you can't totally bank on anything. You're right that it's usually four out of five.

And choosing the right four, you can usually choose three out of five pretty easily that it'll be at the Academy Awards. For SAG, I think let's look at Ensemble because it'll matter this year. I'm sorry, the actor awards. The actor awards. Well, it's still the Screen Actors Guild Awards.

Right. But the telecast is the actor awards, right? I didn't read that far into the press release. I can be honest to you. I don't really know. Or is just the little statue now, the actor. No, I think it's always been, and the actor goes to. Well, let's check out trusty Wikipedia.

So, when you go to, oh, that's so interesting. So it is the Actor Awards presented by SAGAFTRA. But when you Google it, what it shows you is Screen Actors Guild Awards. Okay. So, and this is the 30. But the Screen Actors Guild Awards. Okay, this is just fantastic Googling. Was it called the Actor Awards last year?

No, I really thought this was a rebrand. So last year it was called the 31st Screen Actors Guild Awards. Yes. And then this year for the first time is the Actor Awards. Yeah, I read the first two lines of the press release, chuckled and moved on. This is just going to become common. Within two years, we'll just call it the Actor Awards. Anyhow, look at Best Ensemble because you're going to have one battle, you're going to have sinners.

You're going to have probably have Hamnet. Yeah. You're going to have, what else? What's going to be the fourth and the fifth? That's the big question. I'd like to think Marty Supreme, but I don't know. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of below-the-line enthusiasm. Huge.

Well, I mean, Fran Dresher's in the film. Sure. President of Sex. Well, yeah, that's true. Divisive figure. Exactly. I was like, I don't know whether that, you know, helps or hurts. But I meant in terms of the, I don't know that Marty Supreme is going to get any of its

supporting actors into the supporting categories at this point, which is. surprising. And I think before the season started, we would have said either Gwyneth Paltrow or once we saw the film, Odessa, Zayan, but I don't think... Well, you know, I think because the movie

is a hit, in a similar fashion to a complete unknown, when that movie became a hit, it became hard to ignore. Springsteen, for example, not doing well this year, kind of knocked it out of the race entirely. It didn't get great reviews either, but I think the film having continued success over the next six weeks will be very helpful

for nominations. So maybe someone like Odessa as Zion gets in, but I don't know about Marty. You may not get in. Can a movie like the secret agent or sentimental value get in? Like, what are the international features that are getting in here? Last year, Conclave won this award over Anora, which was a little bit more of a character study. The other nominees were Complete Unknown,

Amelia Perez and Wicked. Wicked for Good could get in here? I guess so. Very possible. Okay. I think actors like those movies. Is Cynthia Revo going to be nominated for an Academy Award, do you think? Has she been campaigning? Not too much. I mean, you know, she took a break.

And I guess we'll see at the Academy Award. I mean, at the Golden Globes, what happens? And whether she's back and whether she puts on another push. Because this is also nominations voting starts, I believe, next Monday, right after the Golden Globes. Yes. Later this week, we will predict every Golden Globe race. Oh, great. But so I think if she's front of mind the next two weeks,

people will probably be like, oh, she was very good. Agreed. But we'll see. 2026. Yeah. Films. They're making them. So we each made lists.

Yeah. I have a hundred honorable mentions. I have honorable mentions broken into multiple categories. You do. I love a list. I love to anticipate. Yes. I love when I'm like, gosh, I hope this is good.

It's my favorite feeling. Yeah. Actually, that's not true. My favorite feeling is ambitious swing at a film that is gorgeously executed. That's my favorite thing. Okay. Second favorite thing is, gosh, I hope this is good. Fair enough.

Just the way that it makes me feel. Sitting down a movie's about to start, I've been thinking about it for months. I'm ready for it. It is a very good feeling. It's probably why I'm doing this, honestly. So, because you don't get that feeling at the end of a movie often. Three, four, five, six, seven, eight times a year. Right, but I mean, that is a very exciting one.

it's very nice Is it more exciting to you when it's a film that you have been anticipating and it lands or when you're just like oh this is out of nowhere surprise

there are exceptions once upon a time in Hollywood very memorably was a moment when I could not have been looking forward to a movie more and it exceeded my

my expectations I genuinely was just levitated at the end of that movie that doesn't happen often with something I loved one battle we talked about it

nonstop this year and it wasn't what I thought it was going to be, but I was like, of course. Of course he did that. Yeah. You know, it's different when you don't see a movie coming. And that's harder. I don't know if there, and this exercise kind of eliminates that opportunity. Like, I know too much. I think I said this like a year ago where I was like, I've just read too much. I watch too many trailers. I know what movies are in production. I'm obsessed. And I'll say to you now what I said to you then, which is like, that's a you problem. Like, you can fix it a little bit. Or is it a me skill?

I guess so. You know? Does it or does it not power this show? Right. But you also said that the best part of your break was not any film that you watched, but the feeling of not watching films for work. I'm a man of tremendous contradiction. That is so true. You also put so many movies on your list that I was just like, well, there are like three

movies left coming out in 2026. I found some. I made some of my own sub lists. It's fine. Exciting. You know. I haven't looked at your sub lists. Well, there were probably about five titles that I knew you would want that I didn't

even have to think about, just as I assume you think there were five or so that I would be okay with. Do you want to start or should I start? And should we do honorable mentions first rather than second? That's way too chaotic. Because some of your honorable mentions are on my list. No, we just got to do our lists. Okay. You go first. Okay. This is really, I like what you've done here. My first slot are three films that could be the best or the worst thing that ever happened to me. And they set a tone for Amanda's 2026, which is... I don't know if it's getting what I want because I don't know if I ever wanted this, but the fan service and the sequelitis and the things you love being important again that

experience that you've been having for the last 10 years are coming for me in The Devil Where's Prada 2, the social reckoning, and sense and sensibility. two sequels and a remake of three of my most beloved films. Let me just say right now, direct to camera, salute to you, Bill Simmons. The Devil Wears Prada is the number one most rewatchable movie of all time. That was just, you know, sometimes I haven't even spoken to Bill for a few weeks, and then I'm just like, oh, yeah, Bill is my soulmate.

That's beautiful. Like, it's correct. We didn't even have to talk about it. I just, I know, I felt really seen. I am you know The Delaware's product too could be a total disaster It really could It could

It's going to be a big hit Well that doesn't matter to me I just I want to I want it to not Be embarrassing I want to not slide in my seat and be like Oh no because I love that original film very much I think it's very good very smart I quote it all the time

The social reckoning I just I first didn't want to put it on this list And then I hadn't you know I served it up to you You did and I was It's like, well, if I'm doing a thing about being nervous, about ruining my favorite things, the social network was the number one list on our 25 for 25. I love that film, and I'm just really nervous about Aaron Sorgan solo writing and directing a film about Facebook without Jesse Eisenberg as Mark Zuckerberg. Do you genuinely think that this movie could sully the legacy of the first film? I don't think so.

I don't think so either, but anything is possible when people have internet connections in 2026, you know? I mean, the world's just... You know, I think about this similarly to the way that I think about the last two Indiana Jones films. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, which Stephen Spielberg directed, and the Dial of Destiny, which James Mangold directed. Some people would say, most people I think would say, Kingdom of Crystal Skull is better. I'm a little bit warmer on Dial of Destiny. They're both not nearly as good as the first three films. nearly

I mean when he has to chat with Archimedes Yes incredible I love that part He should have stayed there That's my whole thing Anyway Those movies

No matter how good or bad They were They never could have messed With my love For Raiders of the Lost Ark They just could It is unshakable Yeah

And so I don't I don't think that this movie Can damage the social network I think it can do damage to Aaron Sorkin's continued reputation as a creative person. I think you're right,

and I think the fact that there is no repeating cast is a good thing in the sense that it's just a separate something that they tried in many ways. It's like the last two seasons of the West Wing, which, you know, I have seen, but...

But we're without Aaron Sorkin. Yes, and things devolve. Let's just put it that way. You've got a great cast in this movie. Yeah. Right? Two Jeremy's and a Mikey? It's good stuff. And then Sense and Sens and Sensibility

is a remake directed by Georgia Oakley, and Daisy Edgar Jones is Eleanor, and Esmec Creed Miles is Marianne. Katrina Balfe is Mrs. Dashwood. Yeah, hell yeah. Sure. Frank Delane is Willoughby. Listen. Frank Delane, terrific and Urchin. Oh, and George Mackay is, and it is Edward Ferrer. So, listen. Pretty good. Good cast. Yeah, but the... Daisy Edgar Jones? Well, listen, she's very pretty. So, And I didn't see where the Crawdads sing coming. I didn't see the end of it.

It got me. Where the Crawdads sing? One of the worst films of the decade? But that was like one of my first movies back from Knox Maternity Leave. Okay. I think my parents were me. That was the same trip where I saw Minions, the Rise of Group at Phipps. Hold it together.

We got 75 movies to talk about. Hang in. Hang on. I also saw Where the Croddads sing. Also at my hometown movie theater. it's horrifying that Harris Dickinson is one of those men is also just it's okay he made it out they all made it out I'm I'm nervous about all three of these I just I'm nervous

I can't really speak to I think Devin Wars Prada is a very good movie it's not like one of my favorite movies of all time I don't really care about it's legacy at all The social network obviously means a great deal to me sense sensibility I like quite a bit It feels a little different adaptations of centuries old novel To me, like... That's true. And the Austin remit, like, there's always a remake or an adaptation or an update of, like, one of the Austin text. Remember when we made you name all six Jane Austen novels?

I got close. Yeah, but you didn't remember Pride and Prejudice. I didn't. Anyway, I agree with you, but the Emma Thompson sense and sensibility is a core text for me. So I just, it's interesting. Am I supposed to open my heart to these? This is, I've never been in this position before. You're supposed to open your heart to every new film that comes out.

That's the whole point. That is not how I live my life. I know it's not. You're a crazy person. My number 13 is The Bride. And I share a similar unease as your number 13 choices with The Bride. On paper, The Bride is Maggie Jillon Hall's new film, her follow-up to The Lost Daughter, from Warner Brothers, from the Abdi DeLuca regime, starring Jesse Buckley and Christian Bale

in a modern black and white riff on The Bride of Frankenstein. a lot of tic-tac-toe there for me. Yeah. I am a little bit put off by the trailer of this film and the behind-the-scenes kind of production slash like testing scuttlebutt for the movie is not good. That doesn't mean I'm not going to like it.

And I'm really interested at least to see what it is. It kind of got dumped in the March window, but it kind of got placed in the Jesse Buckley Oscar zone. Right. So it's coming in a couple of months. We're going to find out pretty soon whether it works or not. But I'm very curious because it's a collision. of a lot of things that I dick.

It's in the Mickey 17 spot. It is. And in the same situation, from the same Warner Brothers, you know, executives. Yeah. Like, Maggie Jillon Hall

is not Bong Joon Ho, but she's a great director. I really liked the Elena Fronte adaptation that she did a few years ago. And it's the same time window release and it's kind of the same like behind the scenes.

Like, are what? Yeah. So we'll see. I thought we could just hang the 13, Yeah. You have my attention, but also my concern. We are anticipating them.

Yes, we are. But what is the nature of the anticipation? Yes. Yeah. What is your number 12? My number 12 is a little film called The Rip, starring Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, because moms and dads can have fun too, you know? Has anyone seen this film yet, which comes out in 10 days?

I watched a trailer this morning. Honestly, it looks great. I mean, it's just like, it's like, you know, a X-Rox of the town, which is a Z-Rocs. of the heat but set in Miami and they don't even bother with a Rebecca Hall character as far as I can tell. But it's Matt Damon and Ben Affleck staring at each other being

like are we going to be good guys or bad guys. Some other I was excited. Yeah, it's like a narcotics cop heist movie. Yeah, great. I would say also a slightly worrying release date of January 16th on Netflix. Not exactly encouraging. That's fine. But like we can have fun.

We can enjoy silly things. I hope it's great. Joe Carnahan directed it. Triple Frontier forever. Some great Joe Carnahan movies in the past. The Gray, probably my favorite of his movies. Hopefully this is really, really good. We will talk about it.

And we will draft Matt Damon and Ben Affleck movies. You took two movies at number 12 that also, at least one of them would have been on my list on its own. Well, that's not. You just wrote 45,000 movies. This is what I do. This is literally what I do for a living is I just write lists of movies. Yeah, I know. And then you read them aloud.

Well, to me, I really. wanted to put a spotlight on prime time which is Lance Oppenheim's new feature film Lance was a guest of the show a couple of years ago for Renfair his documentary he's only made documentaries to this point three really interesting documentaries this is his first feature for

824 it's a kind of set in the world of to catch a predator and Chris Hanson the host of the show to catch a predator and there was a documentary about this earlier this year called Predators that I have cited on the show a couple of times Robert Pattinson is playing Chris Hanson or Chris Hansen

like figure in this movie. Not a lot is known about this movie. Lance is an extremely creative and I'd say daring documentarian who is constantly blurring the line between truth and fiction. To Catch a Predator was a show that blurred the line between

truth and fiction where they sort of set up these sting operations to ensnare child sexual predators. And I'm fascinated by what Lance will do. I know Lance a little bit, even given that, like, I think this is really interesting. But when I was thinking about this movie, which is sort of a docudrama, sort of not, it did

get me thinking about ink, which is sort of like the B-side to my primetime wreck. I've only just recently become aware of ink. Yeah. But Inc. is the new Danny Boyle film about Rupert Murdoch. Right. And who is playing Rupert Murdoch? Who is playing Rupert Murdo? Guy Pearce. Guy Pearce. Right.

So, Guy Pearce, legendary Australian, just like Rupertok, legendary Australian. Danny Boyle came back like a fucking house on fire with 28 years later last year he's incredibly good at movies like this if you've seen Steve Jobs you know that he is like born to make these sharp sharply scripted

kind of like biopic snapshots of powerful people at critical stages of their lives. This is about a younger Murdoch it's not the octogenarian that we know today and I'm very interested in that movie I don't you never know nanogenarian at this point nanogenarian okay cool

Can you please discuss the supporting cast? You're going to have to remind me. Jack O'Connell and Claire Foy in the Seth Rogan and Kate Winslet full position. Like that's, listen. You should have just grabbed it. You should have just grabbed it. Well, but you already had it. You had like a nice little package about media stuff.

I did. It's fine. I mean, I respect your list making, but I'm excited about this. It is true that Danny Boyle is really good at these things. And then also sometimes he gives you what you want so much that then you have a breakdown on a podcast because he reanimated John London, you know, and... Could go either way. Takes a lot of swings.

He's truly one of our most audacious mainstream filmmakers. And this movie does not have a studio as far as I know. It's being produced by Studio Canal. It started shooting in October, not a guarantee that it's a 2026 movie. So that's part of the other reason why I kind of like, you know, side card it with prime time.

But yeah, yeah, Claire Foy, your girl. What's she been up to? Have you seen H's for Hawk? No. You know how I'm about birds. I do, I do actually. What's your number 11? The entertainment system is down. Okay, bold stroke here.

Well, here's the thing. And I went back and forth on this. So this is the new film from Ruben Oslin. Yep. Which has not been announced for Cannes, but he is the king of Cannes. 100% chance it will be there. Incredible cast. Let me read.

And it's what we know is what's in the title. Yes. People stuck on a plane. Here's the cast. Kiana Reeves, Daniel Bruel, Samantha Morton, Nicholas Brong, Tobias Menzies, Vincent London. Connor Swendell's, so good. It goes on, and of course, most important, Kirsten Kiki-Densed.

I had a meeting with myself and I go where Kirsten goes. Okay. Yeah. Ruben Oslund is the most, like, why does everybody like the band I like filmmaker in recent history for me? Where when I saw play and I saw Force Majore, I was like, oh, yeah, this gets at like the real. bitter heart, the real selfish, frail, masculine sadness. And I liked The Square, his film with Elizabeth Moss and... Clay Spang. Clay Spank, thank you. About the art world. And, you know, everybody caught on, right,

with Triangle of Sadness. And that film was hugely acclaimed. It was a pretty big hit, one on the palm door. And the logline of this movie sounds so similar to his last couple of films, which are like these big, obvious targets of, you know, in the case of the square, it's like the vanity and emptiness of the art world in a triangle of sadness, the sort of like cone of wealth and how it, like, these people don't really understand what's really transpiring in the world. And then in this movie, it's about like the attention economy, right? Like what happens on a flight when the entertainment system goes down and what do people

do to each other? Right. I mean, the whole... They're very broad satire. Yes. I like them. The hope, I think triangle of sadness, which we both liked, but it was very obvious. Yes, like, we do in fact know the rich people are bad. If this is less about how everyone is stupid on their phones and more about how social norms have just completely, you know, the social contract is completely dead.

And this could be smartly observed and funny. And it is a great cast. If it is just like, you know, the, I can't remember the actor's name because the character's name was Cy C-Y and Wake Up Dead Man, the vlogger, the, the, oh, yeah, the, it is Daryl McCormick. Yes. If it's just that character from Wake Up Dead Man, but everyone just doing dumb things on their phone or yelling because there's no Wi-Fi, then, then I, like, I, like, I, agree with you. But once again, I go where Pearson Gunst goes. I completely understand. I support it. I'm setting my intentions for 2020. I have a similar relationship with Keanu Reeves. So I'm, I'm intrigued. I hope that film is good. Look, here's what I did yesterday. My dad gave me a gift certificate for Christmas to buy any Blu-Rays that I wanted. That's nice. And I used that

gift certificate yesterday. And I bought the Curzon Ruben-Austland box set. Wow. which includes his short films, most of which I have not seen, his very early movies that he made in Scandinavia. I'm going to, like, I'm going to try to not be sour about it. I really liked Force Major a lot. Like, I thought about it for 25 for 25. I would love for this movie, because this movie's going to be a big deal. Like, it's going to be around because it's going to be competing for the palm,

and it's probably going to be an academy movie, probably. So you're definitely right to put it on this list. My number 11 is somewhat similar. Okay. Exactly. So relax. Well, here, I don't want to be, I don't want to be too associated with your strong negative feelings around this movie. Okay, that's fine. I want to open my mind to Digger, which is the new Alejandro Gonzalez Inan Ritu film starring Tom Cruise.

I didn't really, like, share any feelings about the teaser because you were like Big Mad, which I thought was okay. I thought that Big Mad, I just had an opinion, which is what I'm paid to do on this podcast, okay? No, it's debatable. I, it could be bad. It could be silly. It could be overwrought. It could be overdrawn. I'm excited to see what Tom Cruise can do.

That's really what it comes down to. Inorritu, not a huge fan of. As a filmmaker, there are some films of his that I like. I still, I was blown away by Mori Sparros, as most people were. Yeah, of course. And it has felt like a little bit of repeating himself in some ways over that time. but Tom Cruise in an original film This doesn't happen anymore

It's happened like once every 15 years now So hopefully this is the start of something bigger I hope it's not too goofy It's the one thing I'll say Yeah I hope so as well Listen if it's great I will be very excited Do you think this movie is going to do festivals As I said to you

You think it's just Venice set up for Venice Yeah just because of the time thing And because it is dated for October I think it would be strange to Duquesne and then sit on it. Agree with you. So probably Venice. Okay. Number 10.

How to Make a Killing. This is the new John Patton Ford movie who directed Emily the Criminal, which was a great film. And then it stars Glenn Powell, who I'm also a fan of, Margaret Qualley. It's sort of a classic. It's a Glenn Powell is a guy who is disinherited and tries to take revenge against his family. in order to get back his inheritance. So some of the same themes of slimy capitalism, but from a different perspective than Emily the Criminal.

But I just really liked that movie. I think it would be, this occurred to me when I saw the trailer for this movie, which seems like a little bit of a soft remake of Kind Hearts and Cornets. And that maybe Glenn Powell wants to be Alec Guinness. Great. You know, in terms of like a lot of costumes, characters that are undercuts, unrecognizable, a kind of like antic, silly, serious tone to almost everything that he makes. Like, Twisters is really the only, like, hyper serious movie that he's made, right?

I guess so. And he still gets to be funny, you know, he's the charm merchant in that. Yeah, that could be nice for him. Yeah. Al Guinness episode. I was sure. Very big in my house right now. Yeah.

Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. His performance, when we watched The New Hope a couple weeks ago, popped out to me again really he's like he's really giving it his all with some of the it must have been complete poppycock to him on the page but he really he sold it hard my number 10 is remain this is the new m night shaman film starring jake jillen hall okay could really go either way that's like we're all taking chances this is i think part of the thing part of these the challenge of these lists is yeah there's a bunch of movies that i feel fairly

confident are going to be good that i'm like i'm excited to see them but there's not a lot of like emotional unknown. Remain is a complete emotional unknown with Trap. Trap was super divisive. You and I really liked it. We had a great time seeing that movie. And I don't know if I've heard more from people about what an idiot I am for liking a movie than the movie Trap, which is fine. I really did have a great time with it. And when he takes his shirt off to try to poison his long suffering life. Oh, really good stuff. Not ideal. Not what you want. It was so funny. So, Remain, which I think was shot on VistaVision. Okay, listen.

Shout out to M. Night Shyamalan. I'm going to read you the long line. I can't wait. New York architect Tate Donovan. You can't name a character. Tate Donovan. Tate Donovan's a real guy. Knight, what are we doing?

New York architect Tate Donovan heads to Cape Cod. Okay. To design a summer home for his best friend, seeking a fresh start after being treated for acute depression. Still mourning his sister's death, he meets Wren, It's Wren, a young woman who disrupts his carefully ordered world. Jake Jellenhall is Tate. Okay.

And Phoebe Dinover is Wren. All right. I like her as a foil to him. A counterpoint, yes, I agree. You know, here's a real concern. Jake Gyllenhaal is a depressed architect. There's a real concern with this movie. Yeah.

So the film is written and directed by M. Night Shyamalan, but the story is by Nicholas Sparks. Oh. Well, I honestly, I'm, I'm with. You're in. You're in. Yeah, I'm sitting on the edge of my seat for this one. It does have a big, fat October 23rd Halloween release date. This is like very clearly a kind of ghost story.

I mean, this is what we were talking about. You know, Nicholas Sparks writes books that were adapted for many years. When will we do our Sparks episode, Nicholas Sparks episode? It's not a bad idea. Right. It's honestly not a bad idea. I have seen maybe like three of the 13 adaptations. I don't get the impression they're very good.

Did Notebook as an all-timer? Okay. Number nine. The moment. Charlie. Is this going to be good? I'm going to have a good time. Okay.

Do you want to do a Charlie holiday movie check-in? Sure, yeah. Let's see what she watched. Thanks for asking. We've been tracking on the show, Charlie XX's work on Letterboxed, and I haven't really checked in on her in a while. Wow, some incredible news for you. Okay.

Let's just go from Christmas Eve. Yeah. Christmas Eve. Yeah. Okay. No heart, no star, no review. Yeah. Christmas Day, double feature.

She started with Paddington in Peru. Okay. And she followed that up with a five-star hearted review of Cape Fear. Legendary. 26th. She went in reverse order to check out Paddington 2. Okay. Sounds like maybe she hadn't seen Paddington 2 before.

Positive? But watched Paddington in Peru first. She hearted it. Okay. She re-watched on the 26th. Also, Fargo, five stars. Her review for the film Fargo is Francis is the goat.

Okay. Can't say I disagree. Skipped a couple days of screenings, came back with a fury. All right. On December 29th. Maybe she was spending time with her family. She watched The Aviator, a rewatch.

Wow. No notes other than a rewatch. Okay. I feel the same way. I'd like to rewatch it, actually. Then she watched Inland Empire, R.I.P. David Lynch. Incredible. She did heart that film.

Looks like her first watch. Then she watched, Now You See Me, Now You See Me, Now. you don't. Little palette cleanser at the end of the night. Love to watch Inland Empire and then now you see me, now you don't. Normal behavior. You do need to reset before you go to bed. It's true. She had a really good time on December 30th and

December 31st. On December 30th, I had a nice time. She watched 21 Jump Street. Great comedy. Classic. The next day on Eve, she watched 22 Jump Street. Also very funny. Yeah. Then she followed up. You know what I think

about from those movies all the time and I can't remember which one, when Channing Tatum is like trying to figure out what's going on with the backpack and like why you only wear one sleeve or like one thing now and he's like, what, this changed? It used to be two. These movies are very ripe for the rewatchables. I can't believe that 21 Jumpstery hasn't been on the rewatchables.

Rush Hour 2. Okay. Came right after that. Five stars. Beautiful. Rush hour back in the news. Rush Hour 4 apparently going into production directed by Brett Ratner at Paramount. I hope that Charlie is not accepting a role in Rush Hour 4. On New Year's Day

She watched Ballad of a Small Player Okay No review, no stars No heart, nothing And then on January 2nd She watched something's got to give Wow, welcome First time screening

Okay Nothing No nothing Oh wow Yeah Do you think she was listening To 25 or 25? Probably not

Because if she was listening to 20 We would have heard from her by now If she were that deep in the archives Yeah What do you mean? You think she would have called me? No, she would have DMed us. I, like, I just

like, because we've been so involved with the letterbox. No DMs on letterbox, though. Well, you know, she has Instagram. That's true. That's true. Does she follow you? No. Okay. Where were we number nine? The moment. I'm excited. I hope it's good.

I hope so, as well. January 30th, release date? We gotta watch something. Yeah, there's a bunch of movies that day. Send help, the new film from Sam Ramey. comes out that day. Something for you, something for me. That's true.

That'll be an interesting episode. I think there's going to be two dump you worry episodes this year, a January dumpuary and a February dumpy. Wonderful. Yeah, it's a happy new year. Okay. My number nine is also kind of a cheat. It's not a cheat.

I'm excited about the moment. I'm excited about... No, no. I mean, because I had another category. These are sort of like sidecars. They're not actually two films on the list. But number nine, I think, is coming out this year. And it's October.

And this is the new film from Jeremy Solnier. Last scene making Rebel Ridge, arguably the greatest film in Netflix original film history. Awesome cast, horror action thriller that sounds like it's going to be, first of all, 824 has just not made as many horror movies in the last couple of years. It feels like Solnier going back to his roots

of like the horror action of Blue Ruin and Green Room. And the cast of this movie is really good. Corey Michael Smith, who is in May December and Saturday night. Chase Sui Wonders, last scene on the studio. Sophie Wilde from Talk to Me. I don't know much about this movie, but I love Sonday, wrote and directed this movie. I'm pretty fired up for it. Now, as a bit of a sidecar for the movie, there's another A24 film that's kind of like an action movie that I'm citing this one really more for CR.

Okay. So. Do you think he's listening right now? I couldn't say. What if his resolution was to give up on the third chair and give up on us? I want him to be happy. That's all I really want for Chris, honestly. What I want is for Chris...

If you love them, set them free. I really do want him to be happy. As much as I like potting with him. Enemies is the other film. Enemies is the new movie from Henry Dunham. Henry Dunham's only directed one other film. It's called Standoff at Sparrow Creek. It was a big CR movie when it came out.

Pre-COVID that's start James Badgedale. This new movie, it's a bit of a leveling up. Produced by Ari Aster. It's also A-24. The logline is, a detective has a battle of wits in pursuit of a fugitive contract killer. and it stars Jeremy Allen White and Austin Butler, as well as Anna Sawye from Shogun. Sounds great.

Pretty exciting. I'm open. This is like, I need A-24 to get evil again. Okay. They were very good at making deeply evil films and just like hard-bitten, nasty, stylish movies. Evil movies with people you really like.

Yes. My next one is not evil, but I think it's going to be like really darkly fucked up. With people I really like, which is Fjord, the new Christian Munjou movie, with Sebastian Stan and Renada Renzby. Yeah, I like this pick a lot. And this is, and as I understand it, it's they move to a remote Norwegian town and then are ostracized by everyone they know, which we know Renata Renzvi is going to be really good at. Yes. No one does alienation like Renata Renzby.

Yeah. And the Scandinavian peoples, I continue to try to understand their ways from afar and through their deeply weird films. But I just, Sebastian Stan and Renato Renzvi are, like, dynamite actors. I'm really glad you picked this. I made a list of 10 international films that I'm excited about. This was right at the top because Christian Manjou's last film, it's called RMN. I had him on the show for the movie. I think it's one of the most underrated movie the last 10 years.

It was also a big Adam Neiman. Big name. Yeah. Mungu really celebrated a filmmaker, you know, made that devastating abortion drama 15 years ago. But that movie is really, really strong. And this feels like it's almost like a spiritual sequel about kind of like alienation and immigration and Romanian culture. Sebastian Sand is Romanian. And so he sought, I think he sought out Manju to make a film with him.

And so. And I do think that that is in the text of the film, that it's a Romanian husband, Norwegian wife. And they move back to her hometown. And then things get weird. Wonderful pick. This could be a canned film. I would assume so. Yeah.

It definitely feels like it could be definitely a festival movie. but neon distributing. Pretty exciting. If you like RMN or any of his movies, we had a great chat on the show. I think it was in 2022. I would encourage people to check that out. Okay, I like that pick a lot.

My next one is, well, speaking of Ken, her private hell. Her private hell is the return of Nicholas Winding Refund to cinema. That's beautiful. Wow. We just said goodbye to Chris.

But we got to... He's back. We got to bring him back. C.R. is What was that show called? There were two. There was one on Amazon. Cowboy Bebop?

What was that? You're thinking of Copenhagen Cowboy. Cowboy Bebop is an entirely different thing in the realm of anime, which they then made a live action adaptation of it on Netflix. And do you know who Bebop is in the Teenage Mutin Ninja Turtles? No, I never made it that far. Do you know who Rocksteady is? Okay, we'll come back to that.

Oh, so Copenhagen Cowboy, and then before that... I just wanted to say that that is the single most deranged episode of podcasting that the two of you have ever done. Which the Copenhagen Cowboy is? Yes, and I, and again, the weirder you are, the more I love you. But that was two men in, like, true psychosis. So in a way, I'm in... I'm in...

I'm in... I'm in... I watched, like, eight episodes in eight hours. You made that incredibly clear. Yeah. I... Chris and I love Nicholas Winning Reff, and we always have. You know, we saw drive together, I think. and we are the world's staunchest defenders of only God forgives, which is just the most humorless insane film ever made. And I've just been dying for this guy to stop making fucking streaming TV shows. Too old to die young is the other TV show that he made.

Ah, sure. I also remember that. I didn't like that one as much. That also had Miles Teller in it. Her private hell is, here's the logline, an edgy hypnotic and unhinged thriller based on an original story that features lots of glitter sex and violence. Okay, cool.

That sounds awesome Sophie Thatcher Havana Rose Lou Duke Ray Scott Christine Froseth and Charles Melton and Diego Calva from Babylon

So pretty exciting I'm excited for you guys I'm excited to observe whatever happens In your film going experience Just boys being boys You know

Just boys being boys checking out the cinema of Nicholas winning refin Okay what's number seven for you It's Narnia It is It is I just, like, if you're not watching, I just slumped in my seat.

So I know, I did it, okay? I did, listen. Come on, it could be good. It could be great. Narnia, the magician's nephew. Which I learned is the full title. That is not the title. I learned this yesterday.

That can't be real. Narnia, the magician's nephew. Narnia, the podiatrist's uncle. It is an upcoming epic high. fantasy film written and directed by my beloved Greta Gerwig. Listen, if I'm going to go where Kiki goes, I go where Greta goes. Okay. Okay.

Even if it's to Narnia. Yes. To meet the magician's nephew, which is also the plot of the Nutcracker. Yes. But that's okay? Narnia, the pool cleaner's third cousin. Carrie Mulligan is in this movie? Emma Mackie, redeemed, I hope.

Daniel Craig? I don't know. Listen, if it's what Greta wants, then it's what Greta wants. Then it's what I want. So I've been reading The Wizard of Oz at home with Alice, the novel. And it's been a really great experience. The shoes are silver in that book. Many people let me know after the Wicked episode.

I've now learned that having read the novel. I'm sure I read it as a kid, but I didn't remember that. Thank you to everyone who politely explained that to us. They were mostly polite. Reading the novel has been very exciting. Obviously, it's fun to read a proper book with your kids. not a picture book after reading

four and a half years of picture books we did try Harry Potter and we tried the Chronicles of Narrow we tried the Lion and the Witch and the wardrobe

and none of those books hit Okay Oz is hitting I think because there's an awareness of source material but I want to circle

back to Narnia I read them when I was a child and I think I liked them okay this isn't like a Tolkien thing for me where I'm just

you know middle earth blind Listen, I'm getting excited. Music by Mark Ronson. Really? Is this going to be like a funky Narnia? I don't know. Mark Ronson contains multitudes.

What if it's like really koki? You know, what if it's just like really out of control? It's boogie night's Narnia. The magician's nephew has got a lot of problems. He's really hung up on a lot of shit. It's based on a novel called The Magicians, which is the sixth novel. I'm reading, clicking through now. Portal Fantasy novel by C.S. Lewis.

It's a prequel. The middle third of the novel features the creation of the Narnia world by Aslan the Lion. Okay. So I see why you're starting there. Very cool. Listen.

Shout out to Aslon the Lion. Is Daniel Craig playing the Lion? He is, right? I think so. Is he doing it in the Benoit Blanc voice? I would enjoy that. I do declare, I am Oslon. Okay.

My number is, were you on seven? We're on seven. My number seven is teenage sex and death at Camp Myasma. Okay. which is the new film from Jane Schoenbrun that is clearly their riff on a hardcore camp slasher, a la sleepaway camp. Yeah. Historically a very transgressive space.

Schoenbrun's first two films are fascinating in the way that they kind of like deconstruct our expectations of movies. We're all going to the World's Fair, and I saw the TV Globe from 2024, which I loved. And this one features Hannah Einbinder and Gillian Anderson. been anticipating this for a while Jane talked about the movie a little bit when they were on the show back around I saw the TV glow time

I didn't I didn't have I could have put a lot more horror on this list but I put two back to back here I guess maybe her private hell in October also horror but this is like this is the refuge of the Oteau right now there's the Nolan's of the world

the Villeneuve's of the world there's the Spielbergs of the world with the major major filmmakers and then everybody below them is like, what's my horror movie? Because if I can, I can get that made. Exactly. And this is a slightly lower scale than the next one I'll talk about, but I'm very excited about it. What's my high fantasy adaptation of the magician's nephew?

Damn. I can't believe that magician had a nephew. That's fucking wild. Okay. What's number six for you? Is the nephew who created, whatever, we'll find out. Another from your international list. Yes.

Possible Love, which is Li Chang Dong's first movie since, or full length since burning. I'll read the log line. The story centers on two couples whose vastly different lifestyles create unexpected intersections leading to disruptions and their seemingly stable routines.

So love quadrangle in a weird way, which follows up on burning being a love triangle of uncomfortable things. I'm excited. I am too. Lechon Dong has not made a film in long-ass time, man. Seven, eight, it'll be eight years. And he doesn't, he doesn't, he's not.

You know, I think it was eight years between burning and poetry. So this will be a world cinema event, this new film. I remember very vividly. Did Burning? It didn't, did it premiere? It can, burning? I saw it at the New York Film Festival at the premiere at the New York Film Festival. And it was electric.

It was a great screening. Pretty excited about this one. Yeah, this is exciting. Okay. What's next for me? Number six is Resident Evil. Yeah. I don't really know anything about Resident Evil

I've never played it it's a video game long running video game series one sentence Resident Evil I played it one time when I was nine remember nothing well were you the resident or the evil the resident okay it's a zombie apocalypse movie great about a young woman trying to survive and she has to kill a lot of zombies okay this her name Alice not sure okay I think that Crager who loves this video game Zach Greger is the writer and director of this movie I'm telling the audience

He's a big fan of the games We talked about a little bit In August when he was on the show In another director's hands And this movie has been in the hands of Paul W.S. Anderson For many, many years I probably wouldn't care very much

I think there wasn't even movies are perfectly fine and totally forgettable. I'm so interested to see if he can do something special with IP. Very rare. I mean, we just had this conversation about the magician's nephew. Yes. Empowering otors with powerful IP is dicey.

Because studios, there's more on the line for them with those movies. And so usually they want more control. Seems like Craigor's going to get to do whatever he wants, which is fascinating. And maybe Resident Evil is just like, it's just the handle on the door. You know, it's just the punch code. And then once you get in, he'll be able to make his own world as much as he wants.

But we'll see. This is one where I don't really know what to expect. and so I'm excited about that. I loved how candid he was with you on the weapons conversation, because you pretty subtly were like, I'm a little bummed out your next movie's IP, and he's like, I totally understand you, but here's why it's not going to be anything like that.

And maybe I'm just in the bag for him where I choose to believe him. I hope so. I'm obviously in the bag for him as well. This could be a horror movie event of the year. We'll see. All right, number five for you. I think this is happening this year. It's production started at the end of last year.

behemoth exclamation point written and directed by Tony Gilroy Yes I've just Tony Gilroy doing original films

I trust I will go every single time I don't know much about this but is apparently about a cellist it stars

Pedro Pascal David Harbor Ava Victor and Olivia Wild you know Searchlight we've said many times

that duplicity is just if they could just redo it everything the same again, I think it would turn out, like, transcendently. Yes. I really believe in Tony Gilroy. I'm, I like that he's writing and making movies again.

Did you catch up on Andor season two? Thank you for asking. I almost got to the end of break without doing it. Yeah. Because it was very busy, as you know, and there was not a lot of free time to watch TV because I can't watch this with Eileen. But two nights ago I had an open night,

three nights ago now. I had an open night. And I watched the recap of season one, which was all the way back in 2022, I think. Sounds right. And it was a 14-minute recap. And I watched it and I was like, I have to start watching this right now

because I got chills from the first season recap. And then I watched six episodes in two days. So I'm halfway through the second season, which has been exceptional, not life-altering in the way that I was promised, but I realize I now have the second half of the season to watch. Yeah. Obviously, he is, he is a god.

He's the man. He is the greatest. So I am very excited about this. Only his fourth feature film. And one of those movies is The Born Legacy. So, which is a good movie. But, yeah, I'm really excited about this as well. It was originally going to be Oscar Isaac.

He dropped out. Now Pedro Pascal. It feels a little bit like who can you get to get the movie going, but that's okay. Yeah. Well, Pedro Pascal, he's, he's, can get movies made. I like that pick a lot. Okay. My number five is Paper Tiger. Paper Tiger is the new film from my buddy James Gray, who is not represented on 25 for 25. Have some regrets about that. Two

lovers? As you know, I'm a huge two lovers head. That's the last great Gwyneth performance. Until, to now? Yeah. I don't know if that's totally fair, but it is... Which pepper pots do you like? But listen, at some point we have to put the press tours up. She taught Timothy Shalameh about Bonnie Wright, okay? Paper Tiger is kind of back to James Gray's roots. Two brothers pursue the American dream but get entangled in a dangerous Russian mafia scheme that terrorizes their family, testing their bond as betrayal becomes possible. Adam Driver, Scarlett Johansson, Miles Teller.

If you haven't seen Little Odessa, James' first movie, that sounds pretty similar. And it feels like him really returning to something that he is very comfortable with. So I'm really excited about that. I mean, Driver and Scarjo. Yeah, this is, we've entered like the sharing, the... Yes, we'll both be very excited for this film. This would have been on my list. And this also...

And Miles Steller. Or... Telluride? He likes Cannes, right? Well, the French love them. Yeah. I would do can. I hope for can.

I still know if it's done. I haven't spoken to him. I don't know. Okay. Number four for you. Number four, the drama. Christopher Borgley. Robert Pattinson, Zendaya,

the Boston Globe, fake announcement. of their engagement. I'm ready. I guess... Did you like the trailer? I did. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. As you know, I think the weddings and weddings are preposterous and they make me feel similarly. So, you know, I don't know what's going on there. I realize now I'm just, I'm talking about, I've picked a lot of movies where just things are going very wrong in, in the domestic life emotionally. Yeah. Which is not a reflection. Sure.

It's just, it's been a long thing. few weeks. Your favorite movies of the year were Die My Love, and if I had legs, I'd kick you. Everything's fine. I'm fine. I'm great. I get to go to Narnia. Yeah, I think it looks great. I also just, I love Zendaya. But Robert Pattinson is maybe my number two movie star. I'm here for it.

Oh, interesting. I think he's so good. He's really been doing a, his part selection is exceptional. I have seen the drama. I can't really say anything about it, but I'm looking forward to discussing it with you on this show. My next pick is Jack of Spades. Here's what Jack of Spades is.

Okay. I hope this movie's coming out this year. I think it is. It's a new film from Joel Cohen, written and directed by Joel Cohen. Cohen brothers are still not back together. This is a gothic mystery starring Joshua Connor. I'm open. This won't be the last.

Last time Joshua Conner's name comes up in this episode. Yeah. But Francis McDormon, Leslie Manville, and Damien Lewis are also in this movie. I don't know if this movie, I don't know if it's a period piece. It was shot in Scotland. So I'm wondering, is it contemporary or is it more of like a Sherlock Holmes thing or more of like an innocent style, like haunted film? I don't really know what to expect.

Edgar Allan Poe, is that an influence? I don't know. I'm super excited. I liked the tragedy of Macbeth, didn't love. Had some reservations about it. this brings back that whole crew Carter Burwell doing the music Bruno Del Benel shooting the film

you know Francis McTorman in a Cohn Brothers film fingers crossed I think it was I think it finished filming in December so in all likelihood it will be this year

and not also what festival is that New York maybe maybe or maybe it just skips festivals I don't think Macbeth is at a festival right it wasn't It was close to the end of the year.

Yeah. Very close to the end of the year. Okay, number three for you. Artificial, which is the real social reckoning. So my boy, Luca, is back. Licking his wounds. I'll always be with him. This is, of course, Luca Guadernino.

I enjoyed the first 90 minutes of After the Hunt. I think I'm the only person on this planet. But that's okay. And then it really went off a cliff. This one is written by Simon Rich, and it's the Sam Altman movie. Simon Rich is writing this? Yeah.

That's fascinating. Okay, cool. It's the Sam Altman movie. It also, I will read you the rest of the cast. So Andrew Garfield is playing Sam Altman, and he's wearing fleece vests. The set photos just of his costuming, which I believe Jonathan Anderson was involved in, is amazing. Okay. Monica Barbaro, Yor Abarsoff, Ike Baranholz, Cooper Hoffman, Jason Schwartzman, Billy Lord, Sasha Mamet, Chris O'Dowd.

Pretty good. I'm ready. I mean it could go very wrong but I believe that it can go very right So I want to share with you a couple of things Yeah I did watch two editions of actors on actors Last night

The first one I watched was Leonardo DiCaprio And Jennifer Lawrence in full Which you shared the meme recently About how that is an adequate reflection Of our podcast which I agree with Generally a great conversation I've rarely seen Leo so unguarded And so personal

Yeah though there's also It is an interesting dynamic Like he's... Absolutely. Well, he's trying to, you know, stay tight. Right. You know, keep, not share. And she will not give up.

But Jennifer Lawrence is a wonderful interviewer. I thought she really got a lot of great stuff out of him. I've really turned around on her. She's really cool. She's really interesting. But she asked really good questions. And that was a great watch. Like, it was 30 minutes of interview that I've really enjoyed.

Also launched a thousand memes. It did. Yeah. Loved it. And then I immediately watched Sean Penn and Julie Roberts after that. And it was really fascinating. Did you watch this one? No.

Sean Penn leaned forward like this close to Julia Roberts the entire time. And he seemed like simultaneously very comfortable and very uncomfortable. And he was very eloquent about the process of working on one battle. And the questions that he asked Julia Roberts about after the hunt were fascinating. Because he was often like, well, as you know, I have a lot of strong opinions about this world. Which was like, didn't he wasn't like, I love this film. You know, he was like, I've got a lot of thoughts about academia and the woke mob. Anyway, you know, Julia was great and insightful, as always,

but she talked about her relationship with Luca. And she was like, I very rarely have an ongoing dialogue during the making of a movie with a filmmaker like I did with Luca. She's like, I'm very close friends with a lot of filmmakers that I've worked with multiple times outside of the movies. But during the making of a movie, and she told some story about being at a table in her home, being at her kitchen table with Luca, the screenwriter,

Andrew Garfield, I.O. Debray. and her talking the movie out. And she was like, you know you're really with comfortable artists, sophisticated artists, when you can have a strong opinion about something and not feel like you have to jockey for position. Which I thought was interesting. The movie, I think, is really unsuccessful. But she's excellent in that movie, as we said.

I think that that's really one of her best performances in some time. And so I'm not like evacuating all the Lucasstock or anything. it is interesting though to go from like hot button topic after the hunt to hot button topic AI and the development of artificial intelligence and you know the quagmire of technology for him I'm very interested in this movie too I'm really I knew you would pick it yeah but it's such a coin flip movie to me totally but if it goes well it could be amazing you know what and I go to the cinema to experience magic just like Nicole Kidman taught me my heart's open so okay I'm happy to hear that I hope I'll be able to go to the cinema to see my number three,

which is The Adventures of Cliff Booth. This is the new film from David Fincher, directed by David Fincher, written by Quentin Tarantino. It is a sort of quasi-sequel to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, which I talked about earlier in this episode. This should be number one. Yeah.

Given my predilections. And yet, I feel like I just, I don't, I need this to be a real movie. Well, it is, it's on a, different level than my Devil Wars product to sense and sensibility, social reckoning type thing. But it is all of the things and people you love reheating something, hopefully at a very high level. And I believe that it will be. But you're like, do I want, can it be as good? I feel slightly, I don't know if you feel anxious about it. I don't feel anxious about it. And I don't think it will

have any effect on how we feel about one battle after another, but it is a little like, okay, you guys are just doing this? Well, I remember very vividly talking with you after once upon time in Hollywood and feeling like, this is a very mature movie for Quinn. There seems to be that ironic detachment or that kind of reliance on genre exercise that he made one of his calling cards over the years, that he kind of dispensed with it to some extent in that movie and that he it's a very emotional movie yeah and very effective because of that and for i think a lot of the cliff booth stuff is sort of like the lonely life in the trailer with brandy

and like he seems happy but also there's something missing and a lot of the conversation in the latter half of the film about the relationship between him and rick and you know not a brother you know something closer than a wife like all that stuff is very a lot deeper i would say honestly and so But if you read the novelization of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and you read about like the Cliff Booth character, like it's a little bit sillier, a little bit more fun, more freewheeling.

So the idea of this movie being like less serious but in Fincher's hands, I'm just speculating. It just feels a little unusual. And it's, and it's Netflix. It's just going to feel different. You know, it's just, I don't,

it could be great. I hope it's amazing. I'm desperate for this movie to be good. And if it is good, it will. Power July on this podcast. The Odyssey and this movie coming at the same time. Is it the same weekend? I don't know what the release date is on this.

I do believe it's going to be a July movie, though. Could be wrong. Could be fall, but it feels like a July movie, right? Well, one battle was. I mean, not one battle. Excuse me, once upon a time. Exactly. Yeah.

Okay. Number two for you. What did I put on this? Number two. Oh, yeah, sure, Project Hail Mary. That's great. Just take me to space, Ryan Gosling. Coming soon.

Yeah. I'm really excited. I'm optimistic. I have seen the trailer now 45,000 times and it doesn't feel as magical as the first one. Yeah.

Are you going to CinemaCon this year? I don't know. I haven't filled out my thing yet. It's whatever. Matt and I can podcast alone. But so I'm excited. I like a big budget spectacle. I like a space movie.

I mean, even if it is reheating the Martian because it is another a big budget movie adapted from an Andy Weir novel in which a man goes alone to space and then finds him, saves himself and everyone else. Some writers have themes that they like to return to. I think that seems great. So I, if it is the Martian reheated,

then I'll have a great time. Okay. I'm excited about this. It's coming soon. I know. It's been in a couple months. My number two is Dune Part 3. Yeah. Also excited.

Dune Part 3. slated to come out the same weekend as Avengers Doomsday. Yeah, who's going to stand down? I mean, one assumes Dune Part 3. You assume it's coming in November, right? It wasn't part 2 in November? You gotta feel like they're going to be like announced that, well, we're feeling really good about where we're at,

so we're bumping it up to Thanksgiving weekend or even sooner than that. It was March 24. What about Dune Part 1? Was that in the fall? That was in October, I think. Yeah, that makes sense. Because I saw it before Teller, I'd that here. I'm really excited about this. I am too.

Dune 1 and 2, the very rare spectacle event IP movie that pretty much lived up to my expectations and were among my favorite movies of those years when they came out. They are actually in that, not quite at that Lord of the Rings level, but pretty close. And this is the last Villasville new movie. movie before he goes into Bondland so where are you on spoilers right now what do you know i don't know

anything okay and i would venture to guess that you don't know anything either because i think they're not doing exactly the adaptation i do also admit that i've forgotten most of what i read um so i think florence pew will be a bigger part of it i hope god bless that's that's great news i'm excited for this too i would have put it on my list but you put it on the list yeah patinson getting added to the mix here. Crazy. This already has every cool and interesting young actor in Hollywood. Okay, number one for you. What is it? Is the movie that has every old, interesting actor in Hollywood and some new, and some young new ones. It's The Odyssey, directed by Christopher Nolan. Yeah. Let's do it. Let's have every movie star in one film together. I've honestly been,

Robert Pattinson is not in The Odyssey, right? No, I think he is. Oh, he is? Oh, good. Okay, I was nervous that he wasn't. You can't keep track anymore. Isn't he? I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't know, but I was like, oh, you did Tenet, and then you just couldn't get back in. And then that's, oh, he is. He's Antoin. Okay, Antonis. I'm really going to have to work on my pronunciations. Well, good. That makes me feel better because I was feeling bad for him. But that's great. Robert Pattinson will be on the train. Matt Damon, Tom Holland, Ann Hathway, Lupita, Zendaya, Charlize, John Bernthal, Benny Safdi, John Leguizamo, Hamesh Patel, Mia Gauth. Like, great. Yes. And then Homer, you know, undefeated these 3,000 years.

I got a couple things I want to throw at you really quick. One, did a little vacation planning with Eileen yesterday. Okay. It was like January or July 14th through the 24th is a no-go. Right. We're not going anywhere. We got a movie event of the year, The Odyssey, no question about it. Two, did you know that John Bernthal and Evan Moss-Backack are doing Dog Day afternoon on Broadway in March?

I did, but I had forgotten, but how do I get there? I discovered this yesterday and I sent it to CR immediately and I was like, dog, what the fuck? We have to go to this. And is? I don't know who's playing good. Yeah. I'm not sure. What would you think?

I would imagine Bernthol would be Pacino. Really? And Evan Mossbackback would be in the Casale part. Yeah, I guess that's true. That makes the most sense. I think it's an original adaptation of the screenplay. Okay. So that's fascinating.

And then the other thing I want to cite to you is, what a crazy year for Patinson coming up. Love it. This is like Josh O'Connor on steroids right now. So you mentioned the drama and The Odyssey in Dune Part 3 already. We've got all three of those on there. I mentioned prime time as well. Which I think is this year.

It could be next year. And then he's got another movie that I almost put on my list that I'm very excited about called Here Comes the Flood, which is also a Netflix original directed by Fernando Morellis. starring Denzel Washington and Robert Patton and Daisy Edgar Jones logline

a bank guard a teller and a master thief get caught in a deadly game of cons and double crosses what? Wow. Come on.

Let's go. So that is exciting to you but Matt Damon and Ben Affleck in a deadly game of cons and double crosses in Miami. Okay.

I mean, look, the rip might rip. We don't know. We don't know. The Odyssey. Remember the James Cameron? In quotes that, like, the time to love this movie is right now. What we did together is right now.

Okay. Just we'll remember what you said about the rest. Is that how you speak to your husband? My number one is Disclosure Day. Yeah. Which I was very, I don't know if I would have put this at number one if I had not seen the trailer, but the trailer got me very, very excited. I think it was interesting that they launched that trailer in December 2 and that they're

giving this the six-month runway and the Universal wants the new Steven Spielberg, Alien Invasion, maybe drama to be a big event. And this is what it's all about, man. This is what it's big blockbusters from visionaries at scale with great actors. Joshua O'Connorback could not be more excited for this movie. I hope it's great. I would imagine it's the last major Steven Spielberg movie. He'll be wrong?

Scorsese is still pushing it. I was going to say. I know. Everybody, you know, modern medicine and with, respect boomers are really changing our understanding of retirement age. They are. You know, he's going to be 80 this year, Spielberg. And, you know, $200 million, I don't know what the budget is, whatever, hundreds of millions

of dollars, blockbusters, harder to mount, the older you get. But I'm fired up for this. David Kep wrote the screenplay. Also a coin flip. Could be great. It could be not great. Cast of the movie. Also Colin Firth, Coleman Domingo, Eve Hewson, Wyevian.

Wyatt Russell and Emily Blunt. I have a million honorable mentions. Yes, you do. You have so many honorable mentions that I was like, okay, well, you can just have them. As honorable mentions? Yeah. No, you grabbed a couple. You grabbed a couple from the 10 international features to highlight.

Both of which I think were great picks. You picked Few Word Impossible Love. I've got Hope on here, which is Nahang Jin's first film, I think, since The Whaling, which is a legendary Korean ghost story. that's a great movie. And the logline for Hope is really, really cool. I don't want to spoil that way for anybody. I think that's coming out this year.

Pavel Pavlovakowski's first movie in like 10 years since Cold War? Since Cold War. 1949, it's coming out this year. Definitely a festival movie. Out of this world, the new feature from Albert Serra. We never talked about afternoons of solitude because I assume you didn't see it, which is the documentary he made about a bullfighter, which is just wild. No, but I've had you recreate it for me and also Tyler Parker.

recreated. Yeah, I know Tyler loved it. Yeah, Tyler really, really loves it. Great film. I think Pacifixion was his last feature film, which is also really good. Reisca Hamaguchi, new movie all of a sudden. I think it's coming out. I think it's coming out. I think it's coming up. New Asgar Farhadi movie, Parallel Tales. Lucas Daunt, who last made Closer, has a new movie called Coward. Contamir Boligov has Butterfly Jam, and then Coriata has two movies coming out this year. Sheep in the Box and Look Back. So super excited for all those I'm not quite sure what our What our festival plan is this year

Yeah we got to discuss We do We do Is it the year to mix it up Do you mean is it the year to go to France Because I think the answer is yes Because you know Kirsten Dunst will be there

Could be I've also been arranging most of my Travel around the idea That I would be in France in May So How will I do? do a live stream 24-hour pod with Knox about the Mandalorian and Grogu

if I'm in France. Well, it could debut there. It's possible. So he's coming? Yeah. Is he coming to the premiere? I think he would like to see France. He would be okay on the flight. Size never flying again. With love and respect to my small child. He is grounded for eternity.

Well, and also, you know, FaceTime, you know? Can I just start FaceTiming you anytime he has a question about Star Wars? Yeah. That's called send a voicemail. Here's the horror wave for 2026. A lot of horror movies. Robert Eggers' werewolf.

Yeah, I was surprised this wasn't on the... Right on the outskirts of honorable mention. As you know, after our last conversation, I think Rob hates me now, so he's really sick of me asking about thematic intent in his adaptations of ancient horror movies. Does he hate podcasting? I don't think he likes podcasting very much. I've really enjoyed talking with him over the years. Or do their things?

I think I'm going to not ask him back, regardless of how I feel about the movie, just to spare him. But yeah, he's making a werewolf movie and bringing you back most of the cast from Nosferatu for that film, which was Nospheratu, a huge hit for him. I cited recently Obsession by Curry Barker, which played at festivals in the fall and Focus picked up, which is thought to be great. Psycho Killer, Gavin Polone's movie was coming out this spring. Send Help, I mentioned. Sam Ramey's movie. Scream 7. scary movie six have you seen any scary movie movies

yeah I saw the original one with Anna Farras did you like it I mean sure Evil Dead Burn which is I think the six Evil Dead film could be good Other Mommy Yeah well I was disappointed that this was a horror movie And not just like your life

Yeah yeah who's coming in to save you Yeah Other Mommy is a horror movie starring Jessica Chastain directed by Rob Savage who directed host which was a big hit during COVID. Ready or not, too, coming soon. A new version of the Mummy coming soon. Yeah?

There's two A-24 movies, undertone, which I've already seen, which is a very cool, very super small budget horror movie that I think is playing at Sundance, and then Backrooms, which is the Kane Parson creepypasta adaptation. Hocum, really good teaser for this movie,

which came out of nowhere, Damien McCarthy, who made a couple of really good shutter streaming films over the last couple of years, Irish filmmaker. This new movie had Adam Scott in the teaser. It looked pretty scary. Neons releasing that.

Victorian Psycho, aka Amanda Dobbins. I think Terrifier. I'm not really a Victorian. But is the Beethon Psycho? Sure. Okay. Terrifire 4. Okay.

Now is the time to get on board. Oh, right. Terrifier 3 was like a, you know, reinvention of the form, but also just like the greatest cinema. I listen to a podcast about it. No. Neither of those things are true and you misunderstood. Can I tell you something?

Last year, this might even be 2024. CR and I came up with a plan to scare you, Sean, and capture it on camera because he really wanted to get an art the clown mask. But then he said he ordered it and it smelled way too bad and he was like, I'm bailing on this idea. And we never did it. Oh, no. That's really funny.

So you would have scared me by like creeping up behind me? The plan was when we used to shoot in, remember upstairs in the other building where the old set like Bill's movie stuff. He was going to hide behind the curtain before you were to come in for a recording and then come out of the curtain and scare you. Never got off the ground. Very cool. Very cool. Love to work with my friends. Last horror movie I'm going to mention is the land of nod.

Okay. Kyle Edward Ball, who made Skinnamarink, which is your favorite film of 2022. A-24 movie that looks really interesting. Hey, Sean. What's happening? What's behind the curtain? What are you going? What are you guys doing?

It's kind of like Who used to do the bit About the man in the little box? Come in this box Help me get out of this box It's a comedian From the trip There's like

Can I do my rom-com watch? Absolutely do it. Okay, fire away. All right. Coming this week, we mentioned it earlier Emily Henry adaptation Of people we meet on vacation Yes, Netflix. I haven't read this Emily Henry novel

I read a different one about a woman who goes back and like starts a bookstore. What's her deal? What is she write? Romance novels. And they are like they are the closest to their like rom-coms that keep going. Okay. So and by

keep going I mean they have a lot of sex and then they end up you know. And then also it's like should we be having sex? I don't know yes we can't stop having sex and then they like fall in love or whatever. I'm interested. This stars Emily Blater, Bader and Tom Blythe haven't seen it yet. Okay. I'm you know, I'm monitoring. I don't know who either of those people are. Emily...

Oh, Tom Blythe was in Songbirds and Snakes. Yeah, and you would maybe recognize Emily Bader as well. We'll see. I just, like, I'm, you know, I'm keeping an eye on that one. Okay. Interesting. One night only. Been watching a lot of paparazzi photos for this one.

Callum Turner and Monica Babaro. Yes, yes. This is a Will Glock movie who did EZA and Friends with Benefits. This movie, unfortunately, falls in the window in which I may be traveling in the first week of August. that's fine it's you know my birthday weekend also i like i can i can handle it you know we don't need everything with you that's great that's great solo one night only pod from you i love it i'm so

fucking on board um molly ringwald levar burton mayahawk julia fox s d hame who i believe is who i believe is the heme sister who got married she is did you see with a pta screening schedule yeah here's what i need to ask and i've there's no reporting on this original father of the bride or Nancy Myers. Great question. Don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Should we call S.C. Hame right now? I sort of feel like it's the original, but, you know, then the... Oh, PCA, a TCM head. Exactly. Yeah. But, you know, Diane Keaton just passed.

That's right. But I wouldn't say that, like, of all of the the Diane Keaton and Nancy Myers performances, I guess it's wedding. It's a wedding. Yeah. I mean, listen, it's one of my favorite movies of all time. That's my dream house. I drive by it all the time. Ladies first What's that? Sasha Baron Cohen movie Let me read you

Oh, you've unearthed something So this is also It's a Netflix Black and White romantic comedy Black and white? Apparently, yeah It's loosely inspired by a French film I am not an easy man

So here's the premise A male chauvinist finds himself In an alternate world Where the power dynamics of society are altered Starring Sasha Baron Cohen Rosamine Pike Richard E. Grant Emily Mortimer

Charles Dance It's Fiona Shaw. I mean, I'm open to it. I don't know. You see. I'm just, this is rom-com watch. So, Sasha Baron Cohen, you think sexually appealing? Rosamond Pike is as a yes.

I was not familiar with this movie. Okay, that's interesting. What else you got? So this is more just to acknowledge all, like, tastes and interests. Like, I have not been the hugest John Carney fan. It's because it can be a little too. Ernest for me, but many people love that. So Power Ballad, starring Paul Rudd, and Nick Jonas.

Yes. That's happening in June. This is about an old rock star and, I don't know, life and love. I don't know whether this is, this might be more of like a buddy comedy with some, like, romance and, like, wedding in the background. I watched an extended teaser of this movie at Cinema Con without you. Okay. I don't think you came to the Lionsgate presentation. Yeah, no, I was flying in.

And it looked fine. Okay. John Carney, once and Sing Street are great, in my opinion. The other stuff I'm kind of mixed on. Listen, I just, I'm, this is, I'm surveying the land. I'm reporting on what's coming up. And then finally is the invite.

What's this? Directed by Olivia Wilde. Oh, yes. Seth Rogan, Penelope Cruz, Edward Norton, Olivia Wilde. A married couple experiencing a rough patch in their relationship, find themselves invited by their neighbors to engage in their weekly orgies. So I guess this is more like Most rom-com

Well, you know, maybe they'll find love in different ways Swinger comedy Yeah, swinger comedy But you know, the next stage Huge year for Olivia Wilde Yes She is one of the stars of I Want Your Sex

From Gregoracky's new movie Opposite Cooper Hoffman And And she has one other big part too You mentioned another film That she's going to be appearing in She's in a behemoth.

She's in behemoth. So her big comeback post, Don't worry, darling. Very funny on the studio, I thought, in her episode of the studio. Okay, I've got more stuff to share with you. Okay.

It's very important that we acknowledge all of these movies because they're going to be the biggest movies of the year. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we'll see them. We will see every single one. We will review every single one

on this podcast. Every single one, I promise you. Okay. It is my solemn promise to you and to the listeners at home. I will be there. I think that I know what every single one of these movies is, which is incredible.

I didn't have to Google any of them. Here are the movies. Yes. Avengers Doomsday. Steve Rogers will return. Well, we've also learned that the X-Men will return. Okay. Cyclops.

So is it happening for, is it like... Professor X? Well, the Fox X-Men will be a part of this. We've seen James Marsden and Patrick Stewart in one of the teasers. We also saw Thor in one of the teasers. What else? There was another one. I think there was one with Shuri. Oh, okay.

That went well. From Black Panther. Where's your where's your anticipation index on this? Where are you feeling? What are your emotions? Every night before we go to bed, I ask Knox and I talk about our feelings.

And he tells me a time when he's happy, sad, and when he was anxious, sad and happy. And do you do that with him as well? I do as well. Yeah, yeah. Interesting. The one time you pull the shield down. But then, and it's really a stalling technique, but so now you can tell me what about it makes you sad, anxious, and happy?

Um, I, I, it's, it, it's, it. It could be obviously a world historical fiasco, right? It could be. Which could be fun. Yeah. Oh, it wouldn't be fun if we're just like. I'm just so bored of being disappointed by these movies and then shitting on them on the pod. that's actually not fun anymore and it's never fun honestly I don't really like doing that and it's been a I thought Thunderbolts was pretty good there have been a couple

multiverse of madness there been a couple that I enjoyed but for the most part it's been six seven straight years of being disappointed I'd like for this to be fun I'd like for it to be exciting I'd like for it to at least tap into my

12 year old comic book reading brain and a big story like this with all these characters should I don't even think all the Avengers movies are that good. Age of Ultron's not good. So, you know, it's not like this is some guarantee of success, number two. Yeah, okay. And the first one is solid.

I really like Infinity War and, uh, yeah, um, and end games. So it's just been so long. And I just feel like people don't care that much. And so is Robert Downey Jr. back as Iron Man or as the, the evil, Doom? Doctor Doom. Dr. Doom. He's a doctor. Yeah.

Okay. You know, the magician's nephew. What is the name of the medical school? Dr. Doom's nephew. What's the fake country that they came up with? Latvaria, I believe, is this a nation of origin. Is it really? Yeah.

Is it not Latvaria? I think so. They just added an ER. What is the one with the accords? Latvaria is a fictional technologically advanced European nation in Marvel Comics. It's kind of like the Wakanda of Europe. Right, but then what it, the international incident? I'm cooking right now.

the international incidents when and then they end civil war I think and they have the accords and Chris and Andy joke about it all the time what's going on that's the covia yeah okay that's a different European nation sort of Russian got it thank you see we got there that's where the scarlet witch right and quicksilver are from okay and adamantium is what makes Wolverine Claus correct and vibranium is what they have in Wakanda yes well look at me I'm ready. You're doing wonderfully. Bring it back.

How many countdown clocks will you post to the interest? I think the movie's going to be bad, but I want it to be good. Okay. You know, and I really, for movies. I would like for you to have a good enough time that I can have fun with it. Okay, thanks. You know. Michael is coming out in April.

Michael Jackson biopic. Next one. Wethering Heights. Yeah. What if it's good? It could be. It could be. It could be.

It could be. I'm ready to like this. I'm ready to like it. I'm ready to like it. I'm ready to like it. I'm ready to like it. I'm ready to like it. almost put it. It's not a rom-com. So I'm putting it in a different, I didn't put it on Roncom

watch, but I'm anticipating it. It is the Valentine's Day movie event of the year. Charlie writing the moment into the soundtrack for Wuthering Heights. Margo Robbie and Jacob Allorty, I think good casting. I'm open. Not really super familiar with this material, to be honest. I've seen film adaptations. I didn't read the book as a kid. Long time ago. I don't remember very much. Should we reread it? Sure. We have five weeks to reread Wuthering Heights. I think I could do it.

I just started... It would probably take you five years to finish Weathering Heights if I'm being totally honest with you. I think I could do it. I was trying to read a high-minded novel over the break and then I lost it. I lost the copy of the book.

And so... I read Able Ferrar's scene. Oh, that's fun. Which is his memoir. He's, you know, of course, one of the heaviest from Marty Supreme, great filmmaker. Toy Story 5?

Yeah. Here comes the iPad. Is there an iPad in it? I thought that was the evil thing is the iPad. Am I making that out? That makes a lot of sense and it's a great call. Okay. I thought you told me that.

Normally you forget all social interactions, but you at least remember the plots. The movie-related social interactions. If that's wrong, then congratulations. You are correct, Amanda. Apparently, it will be a character named LilyPad, a frog-themed smart tablet that represents modern screen time. Honestly, smart.

Yeah. It's a good idea. Supergirl and Clayface. Yes, these are the two DC-EU or just you. You. Goodbye to the E. Hello, just the U. Drop the E.

It's cleaner. Okay. Great. Playface, I'm in. I'm in. Okay. He's a failed actor. Yeah.

He turns to a life of crime. And he uses, he's good. He's been disfigured in some sort of accident. Yeah. And he can look like anybody. Mm-hmm. Uh, Supergirl, sure. Spider-Man brand new day.

I don't mind these films. The Jake Gyllenhaal drone one went on for like a long time. No, that was sick. When he played Mysterio. That's so underrated. People hated that one. Or they didn't like it as much. I like that one a lot.

Jillen Hall cooking and being a really weird special effects master. That's my shit. That's your future. Brand new day, interesting. Could be good. Okay. What kind of new day is it? So he left his friends behind.

So he said goodbye to his friends because they needed to go to college or whatever and not remember him because the burden of remembering him. Zendaya's character was struck by lightning. She died. No, she didn't, but they were at the diner, and he goes to the diner. I know. And he's like, I had to make a sacrifice because I love her, but now she doesn't remember me, and he doesn't have his friends anymore. You fucking loved that third Spider-Man movie.

It's so good. I'm so pregnant. I was like, just absolutely, they pointed at each other. And then he saved Emma Stone or not Emma Stone, but whoever was playing Emma Stone and I was weeping. Who does he save? Not Mary Jane, but he saves Zendaya. Yeah, Zendaya's playing MJ.

Right. And then, who, did Emiston play Gwen? Emison played Gwen Stacy, yes. Right, okay. But it's... Was there Gwen Stacy in the last film? No, but when he saves a MJ, it's like he's, you know, we're all recalling him saving. It was very beautiful.

That was beautiful. Look at you. You love Spider-Man. We all love Spider-Man. It's the best one. He is the best character by far. John Bernthal's in this movie? Great.

As the Punisher. You up on the Punisher? No. He has a lot of guns. That's his whole thing. Oh, I don't like that. Okay. Mark Ruffalo is coming back as the Hulk.

Okay. Michael Mando. Mm-hmm. Coming in as Scorpion. Okay. You know about Scorpion? Does he sting people? He certainly does.

He has a long tail. Oh. Okay. Great. Okay. He was like in the 90s, he was like a canonical. I think he's a member of the Sinister Six. I have heard about that.

Yeah. Because don't they come back and a different movie? Or do they come back in the last one? They were supposed to be the stars of a Drew Goddard movie that I was actually very excited about. Who were the Sinister Six members? This is incredible podcasting right now. Doc Aok, obviously, Dr. Octopus, Electro.

Craven the Hunter. Which movie where he's stuck in the basement? No Scorpion here. He's not a sinister stick. Wow. Your whole life has been alive. Fuck. It's not here.

He was a member of the Savage Six. Oh, sure. Which included Vulture, King Cobra, Rhino. Tarantula Stegron? You know, more nature-based. Which one was the movie when they get

That is not a Spider-Man movie But it basically is And the sinister sticks are all locked in the basement And Was it the most recent Spider-Man after all? You don't remember this? They're all like in prison? No, yeah, he imprisons them

From different universes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was the most recent one. Okay, got it. Yeah, we're like, Alfred Molina is behind bars, and you're like, what's going on? And Jamie Fox is there, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

What is he? Electro. Willem DeFoe is there? Willem DeFoe as the Green Goblin. Yeah. Love Spider-Man. Okay. The Mandalorian and Grogu, you've mentioned.

Which should be singing 45 times. Moana live action? Yeah. You introduced Moana at Thanksgiving to my children. Consider the coconut. Yeah. Consider its leaves. Super Mario Galaxy movie

Uh huh This is I will see it Coming out in April Yeah We have seen the Super Mario Brothers film in my house Okay A plus hit

So Princess Peach Obviously an icon to my daughter There's another princess In the Super Mario Galaxy movie We learned about her When we went to Universal Studios Okay Um

Her name is Rosalina Okay She'll be voiced by Bree Larson in this new film. That's so great. Okay. Yeah, should be good.

Masters of the Universe, that's a solo pod. You stay home that day. I'm so confused by this. Me talking about He-Man for 90 minutes, I'm so pumped. Travis Knight, best known for being the son of Phil Knight and the stop motion animation filmmaker. He also directed Bumblebee,

a Transformers movie I enjoy. This is his big. swing. Amazon is paying for $100 million He-Man adaptation. Okay. Lots of practical effects and costumes. Okay. This is a TV series that was incredibly important to me

at four years old. I watched every episode. That's beautiful. Last year I took my daughter to see four episodes at the Egyptian because she loves Shira, the female counterpart, to Adam, aka He-Man. I know I sound insane right now, but this is my youth. And

there has been previously an adaptation of this story, starring Dolf Lundgren as He-Man and Frank Langella as Skeletor. These are all true things. That film was not a success. You're doing great right now. This is so, this is, it's like a little bit of like the minions energy coming over me and also remembering because they showed us like a behind the scenes, like a making of at cinema con, which is just that guy, Nicholas Gasseltine, like running into like, you know, a little football dummies a bunch.

Yes. It was just like, He-Man, and you and all the men we were with were just like, yes, it is He-Man. And I truly felt like an alien. So there's three movies like this that are kind of like, this is different than the Marvel stuff to me. This movie, Mortal Kombat 2, and the Street Fighter movie are all like, is this serious or not? Like, is this arch and ironic appreciation of something that people enjoyed when they were five or not? Right. And they all seem to be going with the same energy, this sort of like agro-gag comedy energy.

But that speaks to you, sort of? If done well, yes. Okay. They all have like really funny casting, like almost like stunt casting. We can talk about the Street Fighter movie if you want. I don't know if you care about that. Mortal Kombat 2 is just a sequel to the Mortal Kombat movie, but the first Mortal Kombat movie was way too serious and weird. You're talking so fast right now.

I have so many thoughts. Here's the cast and that's just. the universe for the folks playing at home. Marina Bacherin plays sorceress of Castle Grey Skull. Idris Elba is Duncan. He's also known as Man at Arms. Do you know about Man at Arms? No, I don't. He's a guy whose arms spin around.

Oh, okay. A 360 fashion in his body. Okay. Allison Brie is Professor Evelyn Powers, aka Evelyn, a dastardly sorceress? Good for her. Jared Leto is Skeletor. Oh, okay. God damn it.

Well... Come on. They take too long to make these movies, you know? Camilla Mendez is Tila, who is my daughter's favorite character. Okay. She's Captain of the Guards. Okay. She's Man-at-Arms' adoptive daughter and He-Man's sergeant.

Okay. Tila is very powerful. Camilla Mendez is like 5-2. I don't really know how they're going to pull that off. Nicholas Galatine is Prince Adam Glenn, aka He-Man. He's a descendant of King Devon Gray skull. What is the kingdom over which He-Man presides? really, I don't know too much about the world.

Gray skull is the castle. Okay. It's in Sheboygan. I, uh, Jack, Jack's like, I gotta eat lunch, guys. The Hunger Games, Sunrise on the Reefing. All right, we gotta. Gotta keep going.

Hoppers. Yeah. New Pixar movie? Yeah. Knox seemed interested. He was like, why are they? What's that? What's your take on practical magic?

I've seen it. I didn't, you know, not Halloween coded, so I haven't seen it five thousand times. times like the people of Halloween, but I obviously honor the work of Nicole Kidman and Sandra Bullock in the 90s and now. You honor their work. I honor it. Yes, you do. Much like Castle Gray Skull honors He-Man. Okay. Didn't mention Minions 3, but that's happening. Oh, yeah. That's exciting. Minions 3. That's your box office right there, that big chunk of movies, aside from the Odyssey and tune part 3. That's your big chunk of box office. If you're going to nerd out about

Masters of the Universe. I have Verity under honorable mentions, but I do think it's going to make a lot of money. Yeah, I think so too. And I do, it's, this is another Colleen Hoover adaptation. This one is directed by Michael Schoelwalter and this star is Dakota Johnson in Hathaway and Josh Hartnett, which is like, if we're going to do this, let's really do it. And it looks insane. And I don't think they're serious. I mean, I think that they're serious, but they're having fun. So I might be into this. It's the very delicate line. I might, I'm, I'm open. Okay.

I don't want to go see it by myself. I mean, we have to go have fun. Yeah, okay. What other honorable mentions do you have? A Long Winter, which is the new Andrew Hague movie. Also starring, I believe, Evan Moss Backrock. And it just, I mean, it sounds like people sad in the winter, which same. Andrew Hague, you know, calling card.

I think it's a calm toybin novel? Short story. Short story. But it's okay. Short story is. to novel to movie can work um do you know about the movie pressure yes but tell me about it what is it i almost put this in along with the date life movie and ink um so it is a it's a world war two movie but it's not the meteorologist always a new angle and it's andrew scott is the meteorologist

who has to give like the d-day weather report to uh dwight d a eisenhower who who's played by Brendan Fraser, and Carrie Condon is in this movie for some reason. Listen, you know, I never saw, I haven't seen, I, I never saw. I have not yet seen Nuremberg. I need you to watch it. I think that's like a nice slab of beef for us to discuss in like late January. I'm going to get there, you know? Because it's like, deeply watchable.

Like tremendously watchable. Not good, but very watchable. Andrew Scott doing the 1944 weather, I'll watch it. Okay. All right. I'm not, I'm not against it. And then I forgot about this last-tana carefully. Panic carefully. Sam Esmail's new movie with Julia Roberts. It's not dated. Right. So that's why it's, you know. It's a Warner Brothers movie, but I think it's happening this year. I hope so. It feels like it is. I'm pretty excited about that. I don't know. Hopefully these Warner Brothers movies are still coming out. I know. I got a few more on here that I'll quickly cite. New Paul Schrader movie. It's called The Basics of Philosophy. Lesson. Come on, bro. Come on, dog.

What? That's good. The basics of philosophy. Let's be honest. He's using a lot of AI on Facebook. I'm not crazy about it. It hasn't been going on. How regularly are you checking Paul Schrader's Facebook page?

I get it sent to me all the time. I swear to God. I'm on several text chains. I don't have Facebook, so I don't look at it. Okay. There's a JJ Abrams movie starring Glenn Powell coming out called Ghostwriter. That can be good. I'm open.

I was thinking of revisiting the most recent Star truck films. Okay. I like the first one a lot. The second one, I don't really remember, but the first one's very good. There's a new Werner Herzog movie coming out. I would imagine Telly Ride 26 called Bucking Fastered, which is about twins. And in this case, they're played by Rooney, Mara, and Kate Mara.

It's very cool. I love that. Already mentioned here comes the Flood Flower Vale Street, movie I've been anticipating for 47 years. Anne Hathaway in a David Robert Mitchell, dinosaur, sci-fi movie. for Anne Hathway as well. Huge. I mentioned I Want Your Sex, the new Greg Iraqi movie.

The History of Concrete is a documentary that is premiering its Sundance made by John Wilson. Oh, this will be good. Yeah. The John Wilson, whose HBO documentary series is one of my favorite things in recent times. Met John late last year, and he seemed ready to get his movie out in the world. So I'm excited to see that. Wild Horse Nine is a Martin McDonough movie? I almost put this on.

Who's in it? I forget. I think Sam Rockwell. Rockwell. Yeah. Yeah. So it was seven psychopaths plus three billboards reunion. I love Boosters is a new Boots Riley movie. I mentioned the Bone Temple is coming soon. CR is going to join us for that episode. The Dog Stars is the new movie from Ridley Scott. I was supposed to come out in March and got moved to October because I think they think there's money and then their hills. There's there. And this movie stars Jacob Allerdy and

Margaret Qualley. Great. It's about... I see that Josh Brolin and Guy Pearce and Benedict Wong are also... Yes. Good. Wildwood, another Travis Knight movie, a Lika stop motion animation movie. And then Brad Bird's long-awaited Ray Gun,

an animated movie he tried to get made at Disney for years and couldn't get off the ground and is now going to be on Netflix. Okay. Got a couple of... Is this really happening questions? The Way of the Wind. I ask once again, is Terrence Malik's... Story of Jesus Christ, starring Giza Rorig, who played the table tennis former champion and Marty Supreme's close friend who tells the story of the honey in the Holocaust.

He's supposed to play Jesus in this film. He is playing Jesus in this film, which was shot years ago. Some people say they've seen it. Some people say they've seen parts of it. Okay. No one really knows what's going on with it. Who can know. Horizon Chapter 2.

Oh, yeah. Which has definitely been made. What's the latest? No idea. It's screened at the Santa Barbara Film Festival. 14 months ago. And you didn't go. I didn't go. Is it really 14 months? It was late 2024, right?

Maybe it was early 2025. Can't remember. It was a long time ago. Griffin Newman went. Yeah. And I didn't go. God damn. He enjoyed it, as I recall. And then Whitney Springs, which is the Trey Parker, Matt Stone, Kendrick Lamar movie, which was dated a couple of times by Paramount and is now not on the schedule. And I don't know what's going on with that.

And is it a musical? Is it a movie about slavery? What is it? I don't know. I don't know. I hope something happens. Do you have any, is this happening? Yeah, the Tom Ford adaptation of Anne Rice's Cry to Heaven,

which was announced kind of like at the end of last year. Are there vampires in that one? No, I think it's about Italian opera in the 18th century. Intriguing. Nicholas Holt, Aaron Taylor Johnson. Adele is allegedly going to be in this because opera singers. and Owen Cooper. Focusing on the world of the Castrati,

male singers castrated as boys to preserve their high voices for opera. Okay. Sounds, you know. Terrifying. It sounds Tom Ford-like. Certainly does. We just gave you a heaping pile of films.

Yeah. I'm sure we've forgotten a few, too. I'm feeling pretty good. Are you feeling good? Yeah, I'm excited. Are you happy to be back? Yes. I am.

My heart opened throughout the episode. And so now it's just, now we are all of the magician's nephew. Yeah. Thank you to the magician's nephew for his work on this episode. Thanks to our producer, Jack Sanders, back in the booth here in the city of Los Angeles. We will be back later this week. Golden Globe predictions. Yeah.

And no other choice, the new film from Park Chanwick. And Surat, do you want to do it? I wanted to do Sarad, but I feel like people can't see it. Yeah, no, it's hard. It's not on streaming and it was in like four theaters. I have now seen it. You saw it? Okay.

I really want to talk. about it with you and we maybe maybe better to until I feel like they should put it on streaming on PVOD right after the Oscar nominations so maybe we'll do Sarat at the end of the month okay because it is a flashpoint right now we'll see you later this week Thank you.