The Big Picture - The Action Movie Scene Draft

Episode Date: May 17, 2024

We are drafting again! Sean, Amanda, and Chris Ryan reunite for a draft of the coolest scenes in action movie history. Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Chris Ryan Senior Producer: Bobby Wagner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

If you're a fan of the inner workings of Hollywood, then check out my podcast, The Town, on the Ringer Podcast Network. My name's Matt Bellany. I'm founding partner at Puck and the writer of the What I'm Hearing newsletter. And with my show, The Town, I bring you the inside conversation about money and power in Hollywood. Every week, we've got three short episodes featuring real Hollywood insiders to tell you what people in town are actually talking about. We'll cover everything from why your favorite show was canceled overnight, which streamer is on the brink of collapse, and which executive is on the hot seat. Disney, Netflix, who's up, down,

and who will never eat lunch in this town again. Follow The Town on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Sean Fennessy. I'm Amanda Dobbins. And this is the Big Picture, a conversation show about action. CR, Chris Ryan, is here with us. The action is the juice. It is the juice today on the pod. We're drafting.

We're doing something a little bit different. Oh, I just noticed your shirt. For those of you listening, Chris is wearing his Heat t-shirt underneath. A very cool denim jacket. Thanks. Is this like from the archives? No, it's just like a Levi's jacket. No, no, I know.

But is it from your archives? I wouldn't say it's in regular rotation. Oh, it is. It is. Oh, since when? Yeah, I wear it. Is this like a Europe thing? No.

What do your buttons say? One says post-war modernism. Okay. The other's a tiger. I don't have the angle, so I'm just trying to paint a picture for everyone. I thought it was really nice of you to let Wayne grow out of your dungeon

for a couple of hours to let him onto the Mulaney show. That was really generous of you. Chris, you're here because we're drafting not movies. Have we ever drafted not movies uh no never not like as a whole concept we had a category in the christmas movie draft where it was like christmas paraphrase wild card christmas that was the one time so this time we're drafting scenes sequences set pieces

in movies so in action movies there are always these moments, these big moments that frankly, the movies are always sold on. Right. The big climactic visual spectacles. Chris and I would say connoisseurs of these things. You love a good action sequence. Do you have connoisseurship?

Of the sequences that I'm interested in. It's fun. Well, Chris and I had a great text conversation last night. About the semantics. Yeah, about the semantics. And he was like, how much of your stuff is like pure action? Yes. And I said that mine is definitely dramatic stuff happening.

Not always in like pure action movies, but stunts, set pieces, things that you wouldn't, you know, almost impossible things that they made possible in the movies, usually by crashing things around. Yeah. Chris went more towards your standard gunfight. Right. I probably lean towards, wow, I can't believe that that vehicle with the person did or didn't do that thing, you know? So this was Chris's idea to do this draft. As I was thinking about how we should do it, I thought there were two different ways to do it.

There's the way that we chose, or there was a way suggested by what you said, which is we could have done this as gun battle, car chase, sword fight, you know, epic explosion, airplane sequence. Like we could have done it yeah categorically instead we've done it differently i'll wait but before we do this is a lot of movie news we'd love to cover the news yeah you're on the pod the wires are exploding yeah things are going crazy so um the first thing that happens i just bring everybody behind the scenes this segment was inspired by me sitting between the down between the two of you 10 minutes ago and you're just like rattling off headlines to try to like make me want to die

that's right chris and so now we're turning into podcasting he wakes up 4 45 a.m hot tall cup of coffee yeah looking at the trades from page one to page deadline.com same time same time cold plunge in the sauna with just Mike Fleming's RSS feed blasting into my face. Do you know what was on page one of Variety this morning?

The big picture live at the El Rey sold out in less than an hour. Was it really? Did you guys see it? July 9th, yeah. Have you heard this?

You told me this. You told us. Hold on. Now I'm just typing in Variety.com. It's not actually Variety. I was like, what? I was like what I was like

they've got some stuff at Cannes to cover you know several major directors have been there we never even got a chance to promote the show it's sold out

we were doing a pod and then will I be doing third chair that evening you've been invited okay are you interested in joining I have a very extensive

Independence Day plan for the might extend into July 9th wow what are you getting up to just more cold plunges

or that's exciting no we hope you'll be there we want you to be there because literally the tickets were sold on the promise of you appearing special guest Chris Ryan

so it would be like sort of fraudulent yeah that's great well I'll come back from Mount Rushmore in time will you be recreating one of your set he's my own fireworks display

me and Christy really excited about that show really happy that people want to come and see us we will be doing a draft we won't say what the draft is but that'll be

that'll be what the show is are we doing a draft that night yeah don't you think we should nobody's looped me in on this what are you talking about I told you about all this I feel really close to you now

because this is also this is how I feel most of the time where he's just like announces things on the podcast this is not true I knew that I was probably close to you now because this is how I feel most of the time where he's just like announces things on the podcast as if they're fact. This is not true. I knew that I was probably

going to make an appearance at this show. This is not true. I literally said to you, will you do the live show with us? He did clear the date with you. Is that before I went to Europe? Yeah.

I know. You've had 300 Zin pouches in your mouth at one time. Can you give us the Europe highlights? Top three. I thought Oslo was an incredibly fun city.

Bergen was gorgeous. And London is London, baby. And shout out to Nina Haas and Anton Chekhov. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to Chekhov. I agree. So that's one piece of news.

Here's some other things that happened. Megalopolis, which premiered its trailer this week, is about to premiere at Cannes in about five days. We didn't talk about the trailer. What did you think? Sick. Pretty cool. Let's do it. Yeah.

I mean, you know, it had that like, wow, this is an incredible trailer. And when it's all standing on its own, will I understand what's happening? I don't know. But am I rooting for Francis? Yes. Because I think when you're 80-something and spending $100 million of your own movie, you should be allowed to smoke marijuana on set if you want to. That's right.

I generally agree. Did you like the trailer? I did. I wondered if he cut it. Oh, did he edit it? Yeah, because it's so modern. It's such a contemporary-feeling trailer. It doesn't have any kind of like...

And I think they also... At the end of it, it obviously starts introducing the kind of dialectical, you know, discussion that he's probably trying to have with the film. But it's cut like a Christopher Nolan trailer. So I was curious whether or not they were like, we have to sell this thing. It did have a bit of Malickian dialogue in the final 30 seconds,

which I think will be a little bit of a challenge for the mainstream audience. This movie still does not have American distribution, despite the fact that it ended in... When are you going to step up to the plate? I've made a bid. I've made a bid. $38 to license the film in perpetuity. And show it in your ATU.

And show it in my garage. Which, you know, we'll see. Maybe he's interested. Yeah. Probably not. I hope it gets distribution. It does not sound like any of the studios are really interested at all.

Yeah. And we're at a time now, and this is also something that I forgot to mention that we would talk about, but Horizon, part one, chapter one,

an American saga, a different kind of American saga, is coming to theaters on June 28th. That's coming from Warner Brothers, but they're just, they've effectively just like, they're just standing the movie up

for audiences. This is Kevin Costner's planned four-part epic American story. He gave an interview in Deadline this week that is simply magnificent. Did you read this? I didn't. Okay. But for reasons that will become clear at a later date.

That you're deeply in love with Kevin Costner. Not that. It is, it's an interesting exploration of his thought process around making a movie it's an interesting exploration of mike fleming's uh interviewing style um he was a bit combative in this interview at one point he says shut up to mike fleming unclear if it was in a playful way or not he goes back and he's like i know i told you to shut up but you know i like you i was testing you yeah yeah which is um which was great he also said not once but twice i'm not ahab which is definitely what you say when you don't think you're ahab yeah um and horizon you

know is has gotten the thing that coppola is seeking which is like he got a studio to say like okay we'll put this out for you um but otherwise the risk is yours and coppola came up a lot in that conversation with costner we'll see what happens crucially costner also talked about a conspiracy that I know is very close to your heart, where he was like, the big, big Hollywood wants you to think physical media is dead.

But my audience is still copying Horizon DVDs at Walmart in the checkout line. Yeah, absolutely. That's Dances with Wolf Steelbook. Shit's fire. Are you kidding me? The director's cut, it's like four and a half hours. That's incredible stuff. Of course, the studio wants to hold on to it you know what i saw today

heartbreaking news uh challengers will be coming to physical media very soon no uhd 4k oh god no special features yeah just like what the fuck what is i mean okay i can't even i'm sorry they should let me put the blu-rays out they They should let me decide. And then four years later, it's like Disney sunk $4 billion into the Alice edition of Snow White. So I would have thought for you, one conversation about Fantastic Four casting a week would be enough. But you actually said to us, I would like to discuss this news. I am on this story. I am the beat reporter for Fantastic Four. They keep adding

people to it. So now Natasha Lyonne has joined the cast of the Fantastic Four, which is now a Fantastic Seven, frankly. Yes. There are many, many people involved. Julia Garter, Natasha Lyonne, and Ralph Innocent. I told Chris that Chris's comparison of the silver surfer to the front of the house at a restaurant is the funniest thing I've ever heard. The Herald for Galactus. Are you familiar with Galactus? Well, on the watch, I learned that he's a possibly evil being that's larger than several planets. Yeah. So he eats planets. That's correct.

I want to let you know that after that sentence is when I turned off the watch. I literally was just like, what's up? Is the town posted? But I did hold on to that information. So there you go. I thought the Ralph Innocent casting was good. Galactus needs to have a voice like Ralph Innocent has. So that was cool.

Fantastic Four. That's going to be a good movie. That's next year, right? Yeah. What do you think? So can you explain to me a little bit where Fantastic Four fits into the corporate universe? I think this is the universe reboot and and what it means first of all who does it belong to it's marvel it's marvel it's

marvel it was it was fox and now it is part of the wider marvel so is this marvel trying to like restart marvel again after and it's set in the third, you know, the eighth time I think it will have some strong origin points for what we think will be Fantastic Four and X-Men as like the future

of Marvel. Will the Fantastic Four be in Deadpool 3 in any capacity? I doubt it. Maybe in a... I would bet there's going to be

something at the end of Deadpool that's like, this is where we're headed. Yeah, I could see that. But we've also seen them do that with Harry Styles. And then just be like, whoops, we forgot. He's not in the next movie.

So you never know. You never can tell. New John Wick spinoff with Donnie Yen. So we've already got Ballerina coming next year starring Ana de Armas. Chris, you've seen every episode of The Continental. What's your take on that show? I actually haven't seen The Continental, unfortunately. We don't claim The Continental.

Donnie Yen is unbelievable in John Wick 4, so I'm pretty excited for this. I am very excited, too. Will he come up in today's pod, Donnie Yen? Maybe. He could. It's possible. We shall see.

Andrew Garfield and Julia Roberts are starring in the new Luca Guadagnino movie. Yeah. I feel great about this because I love Julia Roberts and Andrew Garfield when he picks projects that I'm interested movie. Yeah. I feel great about this because I love Julia Roberts and Andrew Garfield when he picks projects that I'm interested in. And obviously Luca Guadagnino. And the fact that there's casting attached to this particular project makes me think that this is one of the, yeah, because Luca has 17 different things. And I love it. And I would watch all 17 of them like that. Just let him make people kiss wherever he wants.

That sounds great. Do you think they will be romantically involved in the film? Well, I mean, I don't know whether they'll actually, I'm sure there will be some sort of tension. Have you ever seen a Luca Guadagnino movie where all the characters don't have some sort of unspoken, should we try this out, tension? No. Yeah.

And in Suspiria, it's Dakota Johnson and flesh- tension? No. Yeah. And in Suspiria it's Dakota Johnson and flesh eating monsters. Right. So yeah. Is this one about cancel culture? Isn't Julia Roberts

going to be I think it gets canceled. Wow. Yeah. You wrote this? One other movie related TV thing that is happening

is there's a new Dune TV show. We just watched the trailer on Chris's computer. What's it called? Is it Dune Prophecy? Prophecy. So there's a new Dune TV show. We just watched the trailer on Chris's computer. What's it called? Is it Dune Prophecy? Prophecy. So that's weird

that they would use that title. It's when the Bene Gess starts planting the seeds. It is the origins of the Bene Gesserit starring Emily Watson and Olivia Williams and Mark Strong.

And I shared with you guys the Harkonnens, that they're the Bene Gesserit, which I didn't know. I guess you can infer having seen the end of Dune Part 2. Spoiler, I guess. I guess. Who hasn't of Dune Part 2. Spoiler, I guess.

I guess. Who hasn't seen Dune Part 2 at this point that's listening to this show? You know, your mentions will let you know. Okay, fair enough. Sir, I have not seen Dune 2.

You know what people have been getting on me? I saw this on the YouTube comments. People were like, can you use a regular use water bottle? Can you stop using single use cups?

Did somebody say that? I'm like, what? What? What? I can't go to the coffee shop and get coffee in a cup that they gave me? Like, I, well, no,

we have YouTube now. And I was like, what's going on in these comments? Not good. It's not, it's not good. What are you doing? I've told you this. What are they talking about?

You should jump in there and you should start, you should start engaging with people about your, your contributions to the environment. Do you use a water bottle? No. You know about this.

I'm going to die in five years because of my plastic intake. You're Oh, because the plastic is going to take a lot of water. I am going to be plastic man. Like, I'm going to help.

There's nothing. Fantastic 4.2 is going to be sick. Yeah, I can't wait. Dune 2 show. It looks good looks good looks cool can I ask something related to Chris's computer and I don't mean to

invade your privacy but when you your computer is close to mine and we watched the Dune 2 trailer on it or the Ben and Jess show on it and then you had some

sort of Google Doc about high interest rates and I'd just love to know more about what was going on I thought it was a Google Doc I was like are you I mean no no no or maybe you were just reading something I just wanted to know more about what's going on. I thought it was a Google Doc. I was like, are you?

I mean, no, no, no, no. Or maybe you were just reading something. I just wanted to know what business Chris was up to. Oh, I mean, I dabble in Bloomberg. No, I mean, I know. So I was just, if there's anything you wanted to share with us. Jerome Powell is now worried about inflation. Okay.

Oh, finally. Yeah. Okay, good. Thanks. Great. Can you open your financial portfolio and just go through it for a little bit? you just open up fidelity to show us what you got in there um okay i just really love it when you're just like money used to be cheap and it's not cheap anymore you know which is true what were you gonna ask i know it was gonna be a joke about what if i had a lot of

investments in russian? What if? What if indeed? What would you be doing right now? I'm going to cash out and I'm going to buy your house. I'm going to go to Karen Bass and I'm going to be like, I'm going to pick you an offer you can't afford. I'd like to rezone this property. Yeah. Yeah.

I would allow you to live in my home. I want you to know that. I don't think you would allow me to live in yours home. I want you to know that. I don't think you would allow me to live in yours. Of course you could. I don't know. Any day. When you're at the Vista, you could just come right down and just sleep at my place.

Do you think I would be a good housemate? I'm very clean. I think that the terror of running afoul of your rules, even if you're the guest, would be too stressful. You just need a door. If you have a closed door, you're done. You're good.

Right. And you have no doors in your home, so this is a bit of an issue. Open floor plan. No doors, no clothes. That's the rule. No ceilings. Should we draft? What do you want to do?

Yeah. How do you feel about this one? This one's fun. It's less competitive. I feel like we're all going to be able to go home contentious it can be more i really liked when this crazy thing happened i think it'll also be a psychological rorschach test because amanda and i were talking about this last day and i just have the word massacre written down multiple times across how we you know the

naming of these scenes and how we describe them like we probably all should have taken an edible and then done this podcast because it's like dude when the bus goes off you know is basically what this podcast is going to be i thought about that too almost and if we're doing it on video and you can see the clip like what do you want to see written down on the clip how would it be described to us so i have a few questions to open the discussion so the original phrase that you used when you pitched this idea chris was set piece yeah which i think is a somewhat narrow description of ultimately what we'll do here this is a little bit more like scene or sequence but like what is a set piece a set piece is like a standout scene

from a film that usually involves physical action that feels like a certain climactic moment. So like that's definitionally like it can be in a play it can be in a book

but you can tell like oh like all the sort of thematic energy and narrative energy has been building up to this moment. It's not necessarily

like the climactic scene because you could say a set piece for instance would be the Valkyries moment in apocalypse now and that happens whatever like 40 minutes into the movie and then there's still like plenty of movie that would be the set piece of that movie until the very end um so it just basically involves uh it basically involves a piece of action within the film that is clearly

delineated that this filmmaker was like here here it is, here's my wares. What do you think makes one great? Do you agree with that definition? Generally, yes. I think in the recent years, there's been, that phrase has been affixed more commonly to something that seemed like very difficult to pull off

that is maybe more like focused in one location or even in one shot. And that's related to something I wanted to ask you guys about too. But so like what, you know, I always think of, not to give anything away,

but I always think of your appreciation for that famous Fast Five sequence. Like that's something you love. Yes, of course. That is obviously on my long list and probably for like the honor of the Dob Mob. Like, you know, I and my principles, I have to pick it.

But I do think it, the dumber version of what Chris said is like it's a concrete, like an incredible thing that happens physically. And when I was putting my list together, I do think, I guess I thought in set pieces, but like the things that came to mind that are images probably from a movie but it's because someone did pull a heist you know pull a a bank safe through rio or someone did make a bus jump off a thing or someone did you know so it is so you saw the picture of the memorable image yeah in your mind of like of the moment of action of the thing that they visually captured there is a world in which like the poop scene from Dumb and Dumber is a set piece. I wonder if you wanted to, I think the word action complicates this a little bit.

Now action can fit in a movie that isn't a pure action movie. Sure. Right. But is shitting action? It is an action. Yeah. It's a verb. There's also a lot of choreography involved in that.

That's true. You know, like the bridesmaids, you know, bathroom or wedding dress. In the middle of the street. Yeah. It's a verb. There's also a lot of choreography involved in that. That's true. You know, like the bridesmaids, you know, bathroom or wedding dress. In the middle of the street. Yeah. Is a comedic set piece, but. Yeah. Maybe that would have been a category if we'd gone categorically. And like another thing, I didn't include any dance sequences here, which like are a different

death. You know, they are action and moving and choreography, but it's like a separate. I think that's a different death you know they are action and physical moving and choreography but it's like a separate i think that's a different draft yeah dance dance drafted would be a good one um so our fight scenes set pieces i think so yeah because they involve choreography but not all fight scenes what's an example of a fight scene that isn't a set piece um i think that like the nine fights that happen in a Marvel movie before the climactic fight, the ones where it's just guys

very rotely punching each other and you're like, I already know the result of this. It just feels like every 10 minutes you have to have some piece of action so that the audience wakes back up after nine minutes of exposition. So I think that you can...

And it's not even to besmirch Marvel. I think that's just a thing that happens in a lot of action movies. I thought about Marvel a lot, actually, with this. Obviously, I think that you can... And it's not even to besmirch Marvel. I think that's just a thing that happens in a lot of action movies. I thought about Marvel a lot, actually, with this. Obviously, I really liked that first stretch of Marvel movies. But there was only one Marvel scene sequence that I put on my long list. And I really like it because I feel like it is more in league with what we're talking about here. I'll probably end up taking it.

But it's funny. I have no idea. Oh, for him. I mean, I just think it's the one have no idea oh for him I mean I just it's the one that like that one's actually yeah the cool cool guys

this is cool is it from Civil War uh yes yeah of course yeah so actually it's Winter Soldier Winter Soldier

oh right no that's the one that I that's the one I meant um it's a 70s movie it's like Parallax View I never said that

it's basically like Parallax View I never said that it's actually like parallax view i never said that it's actually it's better than parallax in some ways it's got it's got better those guys are still doing that yeah they're still like you know this is like uh carl theodore dryers you know like they're they're really just making the hard comp this is our mishima 500 million dollar spy show that nine people watched. The Gray Man 2, colon, The Black Man. Like, it's just the worst shit ever

and they're comparing it. CGI. Now, CGI is essential to many of the picks that we'll make today. Yeah. But our relationship to it

is complicated. I think because there's a lot of complicated feelings about the way that a lot of CGI looks in compromised productions in 2024. This isn't so much a question of, feelings about the way that a lot of CGI looks in compromised productions in 2024. This isn't so much a question of like definitionally, but for you guys personally, when you were making your lists, did you find you were leaning less on it? You leaning more on it?

Far less. Yeah, obviously far less. Now, I don't want to sound like a snob. It's not that the things that I picked don't feature plenty of like visual effects or or post tricks to make things feel or like look different and in some ways you could say that the sound design of of a scene might just be as quote-unquote fake as a piece of CGI but I did notice that I was like really really eschewed like a lot of like things that would be borderline animated and that's not even like my animation allergy it's just like I think I really really

tried to embrace like people actually doing things in a camera you know you felt similarly yeah I mean that's just what I'm drawn to and I really did I like my picks will be the things that first jumped to my mind I don't think anything like unfamiliar is gonna jump out of this where it's like sudden like a death cut from you know like die hard for Chris might like did you know I love this yeah you will as well and then it was also fun because I you know I would think of some and I'd be like well I know Chris will really want that and I know Sean will want that. And it doesn't feel quite as vicious of like, I must have this and you're going to want it instead.

I feel similarly. So because of that, I made a suggestion to you guys. Yeah, sure. Which is that one change that we'll make for this draft. I actually haven't even cleared this with Bobby Wagner, but I'm clearing it with you right now, Bobby. Instead of one pick every turn, we're going to make two picks. So we're going to draft 12 sequences, two for each category all the way around.

So, okay, great. Point of order. If you're, can we tell our categories now? Let's do our categories. So we're doing it by decade instead of by type of action. So we're doing 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, 2020s, and wildcard. Yes. So if I pick a 90s sequence, do I pick both 90s at once?

You can pick anything you want. Oh, interesting. You can pick a 90s and an 80s. You can pick two wildcards. You can pick two 2020s. Now, my thinking for this was this would be a good way to represent the evolution of action. The 80s, obviously there were many action movies before the 1980s, but the 80s is what action defined the 1980s in Hollywood. I also was thinking about how this month,

The Fall Guy, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, and Furiosa are all happening. And they are kind of classical action movies or action franchises. And so how do we kind of represent for this moment? You pitched this idea a long time ago. Yeah, I mean, I think it was... Have you seen Fall Guy yet? No, I haven't. I didn't appreciate Andy's comments,

so I'll just say that to you right now. That he thought it was dog shit? I thought he was a little strong on it. Yeah, I mean... Shocking. I think his definition of fun and my definition of fun is historically quite different

oh so as a watch listener I thought maybe you would feel like you saw yourself in Andy um no I thought it was really fun okay

so that's me I'll check it out I plan to see it in the theater you'll probably see it on a plane yeah no I plan to see it in the theater I want to I want to support

when will you go back to Oslo probably it'll be a minute like because uh I'm going to miss the nice part of the year starting now. And then in September, it's dark from like 2 p.m. till 10 a.m. Right. So you've done Sweden and Norway. Yeah.

Have you done Denmark? I have not. And no Finland? I have not been to Finland. No. So I was just wondering if you had the Scandinavian hat. Finland's like, you know. Do you think more of a deep cut? I think, you know. I think more of a deep cut.

I think Finland might be a little bit more of a deep cut. And it's really, you're on Vlad's doorstep. Yeah. You know? No, it's true. The one like pop culture science book that I read about Scandinavia before we went to Sweden was not very generous to the Finnish people. Oh, interesting. Yeah, it was like, spent most of the time on Swedes, some time on Norway,

and then the Finns, they got nothing. Okay. So no Helsinki for you? I'm open to it if anybody wants to invite me to come speak, but I don't know

if I'm going to plan a personal vacation to Helsinki. Do you think there should be a Nobel category for podcasting? Like a peace prize or just a podcasting prize? A prize for peace in podcasting.

Oh. Who would get it? Well, I'm looking right at you. Yeah. You're able to bridge the chasm between Amanda's appreciation

for the fall guy and Andy's distaste. It's true. Yeah, by not seeing it. By opting out. More of a Switzerland than a Finland kind of thing. I'm trying to think of other places I'd like to have you invited to speak. You know?

I'd like to speak at like an Arctic science station. Night country style. And then solve a murder wall in there. Recreate the thing. Yeah, that sounds good. All right. Where else? Phoebe would like that

because she wants to just go to a total night. How has your tour of the Michigan militias been going? What have those events been like? Look, man. And you said you will be spending November in Arizona. No, I was just saying that July 4th is a very busy time for me. Oh, boy. Well, we was just saying that July 4th is a very busy time for me. Oh, boy.

Well, we're going to need a draft order, especially since we'll be drafting 12 scenes today. Bob? The Top Gun hat making an appearance on the YouTube

for the first time. I'm so glad. And I bet it'll make an appearance in this episode. Selecting first will be Amanda Dob dobbins oh okay two picks right out of the chute i know that's exciting and going second oh amanda again okay yeah should we just let you take all 12? Right here. That'll be Sean. It would be fun if I got to pick. Then rock. Okay.

So do I pick four picks then? If I'm on the turn? This is absolute chaos. This is the best possible order. Isn't that crazy? That's really good. Pretty funny. Wait.

How do I... Will I be able to get enough? Will it work with Snake to do it that way? Yeah. Yeah. Because they'll do four on each turn and you'll do two in the middle and two in the middle.

So it'll be four each round. I'm just making sure I get enough bites at the apple, but I guess I do. Yeah, you do. Okay. So this draft will go very quick. Well, maybe, maybe not.

Maybe not. Maybe it'll go really long. How much, how descriptive do you want to be of each sequence? That's going to be tough. It's going to be tough. It's going to be tough. We're just like, okay.

He has a shotgun, but the other guy is like, wait, stop. Don't do it. I'm holding a baby. And he's like, poof. And he's like, poof. I think if you really want it, you should have to read the screenplay.

The entire line of the screenplay. Exterior. want it you should have to read the screenplay the entire line of the screen exterior um do you have like there's one i just gotta have i have a very clear what my number one is i don't have this at all i feel like really ill prepared because it's such a vast decision sure but i just there's a number one that i think pretty much everyone would be like oh yeah you got to do that one okay and it's in 90s and it is mission impossible the the the langley yeah cia heist yeah with tom cruise floating down and then trying not to sweat the knocklist yeah yeah on the on the floor and you know it's like

and that single image of course of him just like fully like prostrate floating above the floor is the

one of the first things that popped to my mind and sort of like shorthand for 90s blockbuster or whatever when we were talking with Van it was the first thing that he mentioned

now was this was this near number one for you it's certainly in in like it was on the upper end it was not going to be now was this was this near number one for you uh it's certainly in in like it was on the upper end it was not going to be what i was going to take number one okay well so that'll be your first overall pick so you have one action sequence from the 90s directed by brian de palma who i bet would have a little chuckle knowing that he got the first overall picture in the action movie sequence draft i think he very knowingly is like i'm

orchestrating a very elaborate, like he is the set piece king. Like, and a set piece king I think is actually a good way of thinking about it is like a fight scene is happening

in one setting. You know, like it probably only has like a delineation of like interior, exterior in a screenplay. But a set piece could be taking place

across multiple settings. You can just tell that this eight, ten, nine minute sequence was designed to all fit together and give you a certain sensation. And work around towards this thing. And certainly the knock list.

And it does have a lot of moving parts, like the bathroom trip and people in the cafeteria. But then there is still the single image where you're like, okay, I know exactly what's happening. That's also, you know, that is a little bit of, I love the Mission Impossible movies. So that, like, it is a little bit of I love the Mission Impossible movies so that like personal connection it is a Tom Cruise

stunt might not be the last Tom Cruise stunt that I intriguing pick you know I don't know and they're like

there are definitely gymnastics in the firm that's a good one actually like maybe I'm gonna write that down hold on I'm writing that wild card

gymnastics in the firm I don't think he actually did that so I think he gets demerits okay fair enough but you know did you watch the Jerry Maguire rewatchables I did wildcard gymnastics in the firm. I don't think he actually did that. So I think he gets demerits. Okay. Fair enough. But you know, do you watch the Jerry Maguire rewatchables?

I, I did. I watched part of it. I have to be honest. I didn't have two hours at that moment. And, but I checked in, I thought you guys looked great. Then I was like,

I, I do have a sort of the unique position of like knowing what it's like to be sitting at that table watching you guys do your stuff. You have done. What's his name? Your impression. Oh, Wayne Jenkins. You've done Wayne Jenkins. Wayne Jenkins did not make an appearance.

Well, I have seen it twice next to me. So, you know, in that sense. It's the most violently pleasurable thing that happens in my life. It was really a lot. It was really alarm. It was really, really special. So can I just very quickly interrupt you? Because we're talking Cruise anyway. Yeah.

So I rewatched it with Aileen. And I shared this on the show. Oh, yeah. But she was like, Dorothy Ward sucks. And like her obsession with Jerry is weird. And this is not a great character. Which I had not really considered. Because Renee Zellweger is so winning in the movie and it's such a breakthrough performance

like is how much of that movie's romance like is romance versus desperation and me is sort of an interesting and mania and I think that's true of her character as well? Where it's like, kind of a loser, made an impulsive decision, and then is stuck with it. And, you know, has a little kid, needs insurance. I think she felt more specifically like her over-earnestness

was a little lame. I mean, I agree. In general, over-earnest people are lame. But it's a Cameron Crowe movie. You know, everyone's really earnest. I love that about those movies. So it is a paradox.

Do you like his movies, generally? Yeah, of course. Okay, sidebar. Okay, so Mission Impossible, the CIA knock list heist. Yeah. And so then I'm looking at my list and I think I have to be a bit strategic

because for a number of reasons, including my age, I don't have as many eighties. How old are you? Nineties. Um, you know what? That's sort of like,

that's going to be like a flexible answer for the next nine to 12 months. Um, just nine to 12 years. Man, it's just 39 and loving it. You know, in the prime of life. I still don't

really understand how old my mother is because she was 39 for like for like a long time a chunk of time same yeah

okay so I'm going in the 80s and I'm gonna oh interesting yeah because it's I know that the 80s like were the action movies but it's

like no one sat me down with Rambo First Blood not until Chris did yeah exactly you know you and Chris sitting stock still next to each other for three hours just watch like no one sat me down with Rambo first blood. Not until Chris did. Yeah, exactly. You and Chris sitting stock still next to each other for three hours. Just watch. Wearing the clockwork orange eye openers through all the Rambo films. Knox's next birthday party.

That I can see. Oh, yeah. Honestly, you sitting him down for aliens will be an event. I can't fucking wait for that. Okay, 80s. So from Raiders of the Lost Ark, I'm going to do the truck chase. Okay.

Because, you know, obviously the opening is still on the board and we don't have any rules about... The rolling ball. Yeah, the rolling ball. The whole throw me the idol sequence. It's like getting out of the temple. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And we don't... There are no restrictions on the same movie no that would have been interesting but i think that so i have multiple that of course is like a very iconic image but for me it's harrison ford just like clinging to the bottom of the truck um you know you know and and that whole sequence but that is like certainly the announcement of indiana jones of raiders of like a whole decade of spielberg in the 80s and it looks like really like he's doing that you know yeah i think that is a sequence that defines something a certain kind of action sequence that maybe it gets a little bit more highfalutin credit you know it like exists outside of the realm of like michael bay the maestro yeah right

where steven spielberg like if you listen to the soderbergh talk about raiders of the lost ark yeah you know he's like this is a kind of alchemical collision of science and creativity and problem solving and making sure that the viewer always knows what the objective is for the character, what the character is feeling, and how things are going wrong and the way that we're getting more and more invested as those things are transpiring. And that's obviously a very eggheaded way of thinking about it. But like, directors who are good at this, that's probably some great. He basically iterates on that

yeah yes with new tech and new special effects and he'll be like what if this happened and you're just like I can't believe

this is exactly how it would feel or like I totally understand everything that's happening he's the master so another person

who's the master and this person's been top of mind because Blank Check has been doing John McTiernan for the last three months you were on an episode of the john mctiernan series oh yeah talking about thomas crown affair and the thing that they keep circling back to about mctiernan

which is completely true is that even though he isn't as showy a filmmaker i would say as spielberg who's like a kind of technocrat wizard with blocking and staging and scenes he makes the most legible action movies yeah to me and the diehard fire hose jump sequence after walking across the broken glass and bare feet is my first pick 1980s oh good amazing segue there i didn't even know you were leading into it can i just ask before we get into it is is that what is by the end of this draft do we each it doesn't matter how many you pick from a certain deck, you just need to have one from each decade? Two from each decade.

Two from each decade. Two from each decade, two Wild Cards. So, McTiernan, obviously he's got... You think he'll come up again in this discussion? He might. I'm sitting right here. That's true. I feel like

Die Hard is a little bit of the blueprint for most of what comes and a lot of what we'll talk about and it's been fascinating to listen to Griffin and David

talk about it because it has been 21 years since he made a movie obviously he was embroiled in some legal issues yeah

he went to prison yeah it was tough but he has not since he has been released from prison, not been allowed to make a movie, not been asked to make a film, apparently,

or at least not one that he wants to make. And... He apparently wrote a Thomas Crown sequel script in prison. I mean, that's a great piece of your time.

To which I say, John, call me. Just so you can read it? No, but like, you know. Will you finance it? Sure, yeah. Have a bake sale? Is he a bit of an unsavory character? Yeah, I mean, the reasons for him going to prison

suggest that maybe you don't want to be the producer on his project. Have you ever hired a private detective? I haven't. You know, the internet's really changed this. So, like, the secrets are at my fingertips. Oh, yeah. It's fine. Would you consider it?

Hiring a private detective? What would I need to investigate? Well, I mean, January 6th is hard. Why did those guys go to prison? Jim Garrison on it? Yeah.

Okay. So, yeah, Die Hard is my first pick. I'll say, like, personally and emotionally, the 80s are not my preferred decade, but I do feel that

they're critically important. I'm going to zag. Oh. I'm going to zag. Oh. I'm going 2000s. I'm going with my boy Christopher Nolan. Your boy. I'm doing the Dark Knight. Yeah.

And I'm doing the truck flip. Yeah. Which I have- The whole police chase. The whole chase. The entire chase where Heath Ledger's Joker is escaping and they're in pursuit and batman is kind of confronting him i talked about this when we did the rewatch was a long

time ago like whatever problems i have with nolan he is the only guy who can make you go like make the hair stand up straight up yeah for two minutes straight and i do remember vividly as i'm sure i saw the dark knight at least twice in theaters maybe three times going back specifically to get back to the feeling of seeing that when the truck goes perpendicular to the sky which is just like

such a breathtaking exciting moment that there's so many iconic images in that whole sequence him hanging out of the truck yeah sliding the door open

the slide that the motorcycle does just classic Batman moments Nicky Cat yeah just love Nicky Cat sitting in the driver's seat you know I was asking

Zach my husband to like for his suggestions and him trying to describe this exact sequence and he's like you know Batman goes like this and then the other motorcycle goes like this

and yeah it was really good I wish I'd recorded it also Ledger very maniacal and entertaining whilst driving Batman goes like this and then the other motorcycle goes like this and yeah, it was really good. I wish I'd recorded it. Also, Ledger, very maniacal and entertaining whilst driving but then after he crashes

and it's like, you know, Batman is racing towards him on the motorcycle and he's like, you know, hit me, hit me,

hit me. That part is just high energy, very exciting. So, Dark Knight is my second pick. Okay. You're up,

Sierra. So, I have four picks. You have four picks? I'm Sonny Weaver. I got all my picks back. Okay, You're up, Sierra. So I have four picks. You have four picks? I'm Sonny Weaver. I got all my picks back. Okay, let's do this. In the 1990s,

I will take the bank robbery from Heat. Yeah. I wore the shirt in honor of that. I was going to be from my list. Imagine if I took it away from you. I'm somewhat disappointed if I didn't get that. I didn't know that you were going to do that. I anticipated it and I have a plan. I will remember this for the sound.

You know, for as electrifying as like the kind of throbbing music that everybody has ripped off since then. Like that kind of like pulse underneath of it. Wait, which one? The armored? Or the bank robbery? The downtown bank robbery, not the truck. You just remember the sound. I had never heard the cacophony of guns that way.

The idea of like what this would sound like for machine guns to be going off in like the canyon of a downtown LA is just so indelible to me that, you know, and just like much like McTiernan and Spielberg and all these people we're going to talk about, like man kind of being like, you know Pacino and his guys are up there and you know where De Niro and his guys are and how

they're kind of moving down towards them. And it was like, you could draw it on a map. If you put, if you put a map of downtown LA, you could kind of chart their progress through it. And that's such an accomplishment. The editing isn't, isn't amazing.. And even when you're watching it, I remember when I saw in the theaters, there's not that many examples of guys shooting their way out of a bank robbery when that kind of police presence is like, you're like, oh, I guess they're caught. And then they're like, no, I guess the cops are in trouble. And that's the twist in that scene that's so amazing. So yeah, I'll'll go heat bank robbery from the 90s number one i will go um sicario the border crossing didn't even bother putting this one on my list

but really good choice similarly uh is a lot about the build-up so in the heat scene and in the sicario scene like i would say yeah obviously the shootouts are both incredibly staged but the sicario one is a lot of those guys sitting in a car being like is something going to happen um and trying to figure out like the rules of engagement and stuff like that and emily blunt the thing i love about and i hope i have in a lot of the scenes i pick is when character stays present even in moments of action so like emily blunt's character is like trying to follow the rules and is like what is happening how are these guys going to engage in like a gunfight on a on foreign soil right now and it happens and that's like kind of like her gateway into this this world this underworld of like of secret you know like

intelligence services versus the cartels anyway incredible, incredible scene. Can we just ask a minute about the quagmire, the drug war, and just get our thoughts? Have you thought about it? Why are you trying to exclude me from Sicario? I'm not, I'm trying to get you involved in the discussion that Chris and I have been having. You want me to help solve it?

For, for going on eight years now, every day I wake up and I think maybe I have a new idea about Sicario. I have to check in with Chris about this. My new thing, actually my new take on Sicario

is the best character is Daniel Kaluuya now when I watch the movie. He's really the audience surrogate where he's like, yo, what the fuck is going on here? Every scene he's in

is like, we don't do it like this. Can someone explain to me what's going on? Recently, on a text thread, Chris suggested that you two

would start a school for young boys. A school for young boys. A school for young boys and the full breadth of the education would just be showing them Sicario over and over again.

What couldn't they learn? Enroll today. I thought that was really funny. Yeah. Sicario.org. Yeah. Please enroll. So right now,

Heat and Sicario. Heat and Sicario. You're two for two. So your soul has been realized. Well, and we're going to keep going there. Okay. Because in the 1980s, I am going to select the Marine ambush in Aliens.

Which one's that? It's when they first walk in and they think that they're on like this cakewalk mission. Yeah. Okay. And then they start to find people entombed. Right. And then they're like, you can't use bullets. He's like, what are we supposed to use?

Harsh language. And then when everybody starts getting attacked and it's being shot largely through their kind of lo-fi video monitors. Yeah. And it's just such an incredible. Sort of a prequel to aggro drift. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. I had another moment in Aliens that was like really close but I don't want to say it because in case somebody else takes it I had three Alien sequences in my long list

that's cool yeah don't know if I'll take one I'll do this so I'll take that for 1980s what do you how would you

what would you call that sequence I wrote like accidental hive raid yeah I think I think ambush

yeah like Marines we are leaving massacre yeah massacre i wouldn't say that i identify aliens with your core identity the same way the heat and sicario yeah is that me just like not knowing a part of you she doesn doesn't know. She doesn't know about the xenomorph inside of me. I see the real you. I mean, that's fine. I think this may have even come up when we talked on the alien pod,

but I do think the aliens movies is an original point of connection for you. Oh, absolutely. I think that was one of the first things where we were like, crap is cool, but have you seen aliens? That's a good pick. Okay.

So you got one more. I'm going to do the Trinity test in Oppenheimer. Wow good pick. Okay. So you got one more. I'm going to do the Trinity test in Oppenheimer. Wow. Ooh. Wow. Ooh.

Well, so this is interesting. I think it's a very good pick. Is it an action? Wow. Yeah. I think that fits.

It's a set piece. Yeah. It is undeniably a set piece. The 2020s, there are some good choices out there. Yeah.

But we're going to need to draft at least six that's one of the signature set pieces of the of the decade so far what can you say you don't breathe for like

nine minutes you know I think just the cross cutting putting the sunglasses on yeah Benny Safdie putting the suntan lotion on

yeah good stuff it's great we talked about Opnimer a lot so I'll pass the ball two Nolan movies so far. Yeah. Who do you

think is the filmmaker who will emerge with the most picks? We've now picked Cameron. Yeah. McTiernan. Spielberg. Spielberg. Remind me of your second pick. De Palma. De Palma might come up again. Hmm.

Okay. That's an interesting game. We should do a tally at the end. Bob keep that in mind as we're going through. Okay. i've got two more picks now this is very intriguing just go heart right just keep going heart just keep going for the like god damn this doesn't have to be combative and mean-spirited unless you make it so um that was the start of the fight. You saying that. Yeah. That was enmity.

We don't need that here. This is a place of celebration. I have a lot of things to celebrate. Steven Spielberg's getting his second film, T-Rex Sequence in Jurassic Park, 1990s. Very similar experience. I think the ones that I'm drawn to are the I didn't know you could do that. I didn't know that could do that. Like I didn't know that that could be done stuff. Now this is hugely aided by computer generated imagery.

Like it is, this doesn't work unless you have the technology. I think I talked about the documentary Jurassic Punk on the pod last year, which I saw, which was about one of the effects artists who helped to evolve a lot of what you saw in films like Terminator 2 and Jurassic Park. And it was a fascinating story about like a kind of a troubled guy who was a genius who couldn't really fit into the system, but you could see was a key part of developing and executing on

the technology that like ILM was doing at the time. Do you think that we should ask like a video AI to recreate the Velociraptors from Jurassic Park but have them in the border crossing from Sicario and see if it's the best scene ever made.

That's what we should be doing with ChatGPT is just being like make Sicario and Jurassic Park in the same movie. Honestly, just seems like good Ringer Movies

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It does seem fun. You're getting mad because you can tell that I have touched some fountain of youth. Maybe not in my hairline but like in because I love AI and because I love dinosaurs so Chris and I have been talking a lot about his styling and how like it's we are fully Benjamin Buttoning where every day he's like wearing a Thrasher t-shirt and Chuck Taylors and I'm like what happened to my guy wearing flannels like button downs and adult man's clothes I don't think that i've like evolved much right like i feel like i dress pretty consistently i i think so i would i have noticed like the

button down to t-shirt evolution or de-evolution depending on your perspective um that's also happening in my own home yeah so uh you know they're just they're going with the times what are the what are the times what times? What are they saying? Are they changing? Perhaps we can insult Timothy Chalamet on that. Okay, so my first pick, Jurassic Park. I wrote Hello T-Rex. That first introduction, the, you know, the... The flare.

The flare and the guy who runs the bathroom and the bathroom breaks down. Jeff Goldblum and the images are getting, maybe appear closer in your rear view mirror. Do you start it with the puddle the puddle like the the glass

the water glass yeah water glass yeah I think once the kids are getting scared is basically when that

sequence starts so Spielberg he's got two on the board I'm going back to Mission Impossible I'm going to uh 2010's john lark fight in fallout the bathroom fight yeah i knew this henry cavill tom cruise and the man

they believe to be john lark and uh this is one of the great fight sequences in recent movie history maybe in all of movie history um the movie's more or less sold on this scene and watching Henry Cavill reload his biceps and one of the things I love about this movie that I was thinking about a little bit even in doing the Jerry Maguire pod

is how it seems like Ethan Hunt should be super cool super agent but he's just constantly getting the shit beat out of him in all of these movies and he knows

that the way to endear himself to the audience is to just keep getting destroyed. Yeah. And in this scene in particular, he just gets pummeled.

He gets thrown through so many sinks. How could you? He doesn't have a cut on him. I know. A bruise on him. It's pretty remarkable stuff. Anyway, this scene is totally electrifying.

I think distinguishes Macquarie as, you know, it's like Chad Stahelski and who else is on the short list of guys making action movies? I guess Joe Kaczynski maybe is now on this list. There's a handful of people doing this kind of thing and he's at the top for me. So Mission Impossible, Bathroom Fight. That's a good one. Okay. I feel confident. I have four picks now. And I'm just going to go with the one I really want,

which I don't even know whether you guys will really want this. But back to the 90s, the fugitive dam jump. I don't care. Yeah, I don't like, I didn't kill my wife.

I don't care. Crawling through the tunnels for two minutes and then he goes off the dam. That does not include the bus accident. Bus accident or train? The bus and the train. That's the title sequence, yeah.

Yeah, that's, well, it's before. Yeah, right. Because then that's how he, that's, he's on the loose. Then Tommy Lee Jones comes in and is like, you know, the suspect's name is Dr. Richard Kimball. Every outhouse, henhouse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So no, it's just the sequence of

them going through the tunnel. And it's really, it's Tommy Lee Harrison Ford. And then he jumps off the dam. Great one. That's very important to me. Will that be the last Andrew Davis selection for this podcast? Okay. Maybe not. Yeah. Erica Elinak coming out of a birthday cake.

Yeah, I certainly clocked it in my day. How many films on your long list feature explicit nudity? That's a great question. Actually, let me scroll through. Pick Eastern Promises. I don't, and I'm off the top of my head, though I was going to ask, because I should probably fill out my 80s but maybe not do does the top gun uh volleyball scene count as a set piece probably not no i don't think they're not

they're not choreographed there are other i know but you asked about explicit nudity and that's kind of yeah there's some as close as we're getting grease. And some jean shorts that fit more closely than they do. Do you like when a man applies an oil to his torso? Is that something you want? I think that you don't want to be aware that the oil has been applied. I do. That gets a little too body-bodied. Do you have Hawaiian oil?

I wish we could go back to Hawaiian tropic Panama Jack days, though. That stuff smelled great. You judged how many bikini contacts for your skin at this point that also have that smell. I want like that, like it's like browning liquid. Yeah.

They put on a turkey. Yeah, and they get like foil out. So that's not eligible, I don't think. Okay, so that's not eligible. So, well, that was answering your explicit nudity question. I mean... That wasn't really what I was going for. Okay sorry. Would you like to. No he was referring to Erica Alenia coming out of the cake and under siege. Okay well I'm not going to pick that. Let's see.

So I guess one I feel pretty confident about 2000s. Yeah no this is good. Okay so our first James Bond pick that I'm aware of the casino royale parkour scene yeah that's what i have this is a good one which is the that is the opening of kind of crane construction yeah yeah yeah but first of all like the only time that parkour had like a very short moment um but i never did it yeah i never did it what if you brought it back i really identified with it because it like, it taps into a very only child thing that I think is like where you're looking at something. You're like, I bet I could jump off that.

I mean, I think that's like a young boy thing. I don't think it's like an only child thing. Yeah, I think it's like a young kid where you're just like, I bet I could leap from my window to the tree. I really want to unpack it, but I don't want to be mean. So I'm not going to do it. Your mind is just very special it's a real only child thing to think you do get really bored yeah a lot of time but that is also something you can do with a friend i have or a sibling yeah it's

like no because if you have a sibling they're like i'm gonna fucking suplex you like that's what you were doing i think you misunderstood siblinghood. No, that's not true. I was in my warm embrace. I was showing him the great arts. Yeah, the warm embrace of a DDT. Let's not leave Kara out of this. You were suplexing Kara too.

That may or may not have been happening. God bless them both. We're very close. And you know what? They earned their stripes. I want to thank them for their service. So, yeah, I understand that. I mean, I didn't try to jump out of windows, but did you ever actually jump out of a window?

No, I didn't. I was really responsible in that regard. Really? Yeah. Not a daredevil of any kind? No, I really wasn't. Okay. I was pretty, I kept it within the lines.

You were more just like faking being hit by the runner at home base or whatever. He did make contact. I was just trying to sell it and then it got away from me. Were you, would you describe yourself

as smart mouthed as an adolescent? Yes. But not just to your parents. I know you're a bit of a wise ass to your parents. What about like in social settings or in school? I was, I think I was too bit of a wise ass to your parents. What about like in social settings or in school?

I think I was too much of a wise ass, yeah. Did you ever think to tell them one day I'll make a career out of this smart mouth? Do you think I'm being a wise ass? I think I'm... No, but you're in a dexterous way with words. I'm surprised that this wound up where it did. The career?

Yeah. The whole kit and caboodle? Yeah. Yeah. You got a powerful brain bin you know that's really all it takes you gotta pick no i'm sorry i know i'm doing some of my best compliment vamping it seems super sincere okay so i have two more um i guess i'll go back to the mission impossible well Wow. Sorry, Tom Cruise jumped

out of a fucking plane, you know? He just, yeah, he halo jumped out of a plane. Yeah. And he's still with us. So. That's also in Fallout. I know. Wow. It's Lark season. I know, when you were like the Fallout was sold on this like fight which I guess it was, but that's not really fair to

Tom Cruise jumping out of a plane. Me and all the boys were like. No, I know. You and all the boys were like... No, I know. You and all the boys were like, yes. I do remember that. But it couldn't happen if he didn't jump out of a plane first.

That's true. Yeah. That's true. That fight happened because he was willing to jump out of a plane. The genius of that sequence is Cavill passing out

immediately and landing on his feet because tom saves him i love that bit that's that actually is one of the early signs of them doing having like a sense of humor yeah i love that um okay what should i do here i guess i don't have anything from the 2020s i'm curious about what your 2020s looks like we've been pretty evenly distributed so far on like decades yeah we each have an 80s

we each have a 90s we each have a 2000s and we each have a 2010s and Chris has one 2020s you know like at this point I don't feel that there are that many things that you're going to take away from me so

you know now I'm just like what order should I go in I guess for variety's sake, 2020s, I'll do Sacrifice from John Wick 4. I had that.

Yeah. It's really, which, to your point about the Buster Keaton, the comedy-ization, or just the screwball nature and understanding

the different ways that a fight sequence can be choreographed. There are like four things from Wick 4 that I think you could make a legitimate case for. And you can pick them. The Sacrifice steps are my favorite.

Okay. So you got two. I have four. You have two more to go. No, no, no. I just did. You just did four. Yeah, I just did four.

I did Fugitive Dam Jump, Casino Royale, Parkour Scene. Oh, wow. Fallout, Jumping Out of a Plane Sacré-Cœur John Wick 4 Guns and Ammo Amanda Good job Guns and Amanda So I've got two more picks I guess I need to go for a 2020s

before things start running thin This is easy This was my number one of the 2020s The Final Mission in Top Gun Maverick Oh good one I had this but I thought you were going to take something else From that movie?

From that decade. I have a couple more on the list. Hopefully I get one of them that is more of a personal pick. But the final mission is the same thing I'm describing with

most of my picks where I'm just like, oh my God, you know, they really just wrapped your heart up. And I think the payoff is really good with,

you know, Cruz sacrificing himself and then Miles Teller foolishly also sacrificing himself and doubling back for him. But the actual, the way that they set up the video game strategy to set up our expectations for the mission itself, for the drop and for hitting the marks and for rising high enough and then reaching the plateau and then crashing down is so, so amazing. Just so exciting. And so, I mean, people obviously crying and cheering and standing and applauding. And obviously a lot of that was movies were so back

when that was all happening. It did feel like, I was like, this podcast will continue when that moment happened. I was like, we will continue to have films in movie theaters collectively. But, you know, also everything that you bring to the Cruise experience and to the Maverick character and feeling like he really needs this and, you know, Meg Ryan really needs this for Miles to rise and succeed.

So that's kind of a no-brainer for me. That was the first one I thought of for the 2020s. So now we've got another pick. I've currently got... That seems so fucking good. It's amazing. Coffin Corner. They got to fucking go straight up.

You know what I learned about Coffin Corner? Madden from my punter. Oh. That's where they teach you how to punt the ball into the corner just to the left of where the end zone begins. You know about that? No, but I learn things from you guys every day.

I was really good at Madden. Okay. I haven't played in 20 years, but once upon a time, I was pretty good at it. Do you miss video games? I still play FIFA. You do?

Yeah. Every day? No, but like when, especially when Phoebe's out. Same thing. Same thing. Did you hear about the Legend of Zelda situation on the pod earlier this week? No, what happened?

I mean, I was curious what the legend was. What is her legend? And they didn't know the answer. Did not know. Simple questions. Do you know? She's got to find the princess. He's got to find this link.

Yeah, but Zelda is the princess. Right, you got to find her. Yeah, but like why? What happened? More or less exactly what we said. I've been told we were not very articulate like some monster hide her away yeah gannon yeah yeah okay and the head coach of the arizona cardinals yeah they didn't mention gannon that was not yes i guess i did okay i don't remember it i was listening

um okay one more. I like this idea where we can just have like nine movies in one category. Maybe we'll keep expanding the parameters. Probably not as competitive and I know people

love to hear us bicker but it doesn't matter. They'll just be like I can't believe you didn't mention. 2000s I'm going Kill Bill Volume 1

versus The Crazy 88's. That's the first time I've really been like it's so close I got it. How did you not know that he well sorry yeah. No but I was I'm surprised it took you this far. I've really been like, it's so close, I got it. Well, how did you not know that he, well, sorry, yeah. No, but I was, you know. I'm surprised it took you this long.

I've had it taken away from me on a couple of drafts, this movie. I know, I always take Quentin early and you're like, God damn you. Yeah, and I should know better

and so this is even probably too late for how much I like this and how much that same I rewatched it this morning and then I was like, I'm not going to get this. Sean's going to get it, so.

Yeah, we had our chances. It's not, it doesn't quite live in that like diehard Jurassic Park, Mission Impossible realm realm Tarantino doesn't do a lot of classical action set pieces this is of course like a huge homage to the kung fu movies that he loves but this one is extended and hilarious and beautiful and gross and um kind of the culmination I think of his work as like a kinetic filmmaker. You know, like he's a great writer of characters.

He's a great writer of story, but pure visual excitement. Yeah. I feel like this movie is weirdly underrated, like not forgotten. No, it's, yeah. For as much like recurring Quentin celebration that happens, I think Kill Bill is the one,

like Jackie Brown got like a full-on like re-appreciation you know like totally yeah yeah I think it's still somewhat like people think of it as like the most genre of all of his movies even though and it is and it is even though in every movie he is like reinventing his love for a genre but so you know Jackie Brown's a crime so like it just hasn't gotten its moment yet i wonder when that will be anyway you can start it right now it's amazing and also uma thurman is clearly just doing a lot of this faction this stunt work this sword play like she is in images obviously zoe bell who went on to star in a bunch of

Quentin's movies, was her stunt double and did a lot of work. But you can see Uma Thurman's face in so many great sequences in this movie. It's completely thrilling,

super fun. So, Kill Brill Volume 1 is my second pick of this round. Okay. CR, you were one pick away.

Okay. In the 1980s, I will take the Potemkin train station from The Untouchables. Mmm. Mmm. So, Brians, I will take the Potemkin train station from The Untouchables. So Brian De Palma back on the board. Good one. The carriage.

Yeah. That's like, I think it's like 10 minutes long from when they enter the train to when they get out. Absolutely horrifying. De Palma number two. Really, really, really,

it didn't occur to me, but that's a really smart one. Yeah, this is one of like the teach it in film school. Good job, CR. Thanks, guys. Yeah, and I always always I still fucking love the like toss

Costner tossing the gun to Garcia you know or whatever remember like the gun toss and then it's like holding the carriage up while he's got the other guy fucking sick

you haven't weighed in on Horizon yet you're interested what do you mean I haven't weighed in on Horizon yet I was I was talking about i was i said that

the next live rewatchable we should do is all four horizons for 12 hours watch along yeah yeah okay yeah are you in for that um sure i think that's like will what will happen first horizon four will be made or will all die i don't. Apparently he's starting production on three right now. We shall see. Okay, The Untouchables. So you've got two 80s movies? Yeah, I got two 80s. I'm going to go for the 19...

For 2000s, I will do... Let's get back with Uncle Steve. Steve Spielberg, Pods Emerge from War of the Worlds. Ooh. So that whole sequence of him walking through town and being like, hey, you guys,

what's going on? Why is there a blackout? And then everybody gathering around the hole and then the machines coming out of the ground and then vaporizing everybody is such an awesome...

And then him trying to find his kids and everything. I like that pic a lot and that sequence feels like him realizing his dreams of what kind of movie he was going to make when he was nine years old. Yes. I personally would have selected the boat sequence more.

So that's very escape to the terrifying, like the crowd push there. Yeah. Um, that's a good, they're both, those are both really good. Uh,

we also, I am like, this is a little bit lost. Why is, why is this not also yeah the plane crash sequence when he's like you don't see it but when he takes

the kids down into the basement when they wake up the plane's there right okay so that's 80s I got Potemkin

2000s it's pods merge I'm gonna do this one this is just for shits and giggles because in the theater

i was like i'm ready now like if you if i if i die right now like it all came full circle you did the daniel playing view unfinished nope i did uh vader in rogue one oh yeah because i was like we did it we came back to where it all started you know and we reshot A New Hope and it's sick

and it's better and it fucking rules and Vader's throwing guys around and cutting them up but he still doesn't get the message this is my brother yeah that's the youngest

I've ever felt in my adult life in a movie theater also I was like I'm nine I'm nine and this is amazing yeah as a set piece

within the context of the film the movie's over and you're like oh the movie's over and you're like the movie's still going the movie's still going oh my god

is this happening yeah the setup is amazing where he's standing in the dark and he's illuminated by turning on his lightsaber. And it's a horror movie.

It's 90 seconds of a horror movie. And it's the best Star Wars horror movie ever. And it's, I don't know why they don't lean into that more. Like the force is fucking scary.

Yeah. Like it is a dangerous thing. And Star Wars, too nice. That's one of my takes. Way too nice. It's not for you. It's for children.

I know. I know. It's not for you it's for children I know I know it's a shame that's an interesting pick thanks in a good way well I mean I love that scene so yeah

in the 2020s hmm oh god I'm gonna do the village raid from the Northmen oh my god wow yes

this is this is big Europe yeah coming to this is right you big Europe coming to this is right you've come home a Viking I did I did

we're talking about oiling up holy shit you know Skarsgård was Eggers just fucking going

complete full raid here it's so good Skarsgård's so good there's this you know

we didn't really talk about the utilization of long takes or one-ers within these things but this is obviously got like a very long shot in it but the whole good there's this you know we didn't really talk about the utilization of of long takes or oners within these things but this is obviously got like a very long shot in it but the whole the whole sequence is just astonishing did you see the northman i think you were on leave i was on leave so i never saw it in full i have familiarized myself with what alexander skarsgard's up to in that movie okay um and you too he's becoming a beast. Certainly physique wise. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no.

But I'm more mad visually. I like to keep up on that situation. What's the whole like mantra in that movie? I will avenge you father. I mean, yeah, it's like a famous

Norse proclamation. Yeah. That movie rocks extremely hard. That movie is an ACDC album. Very, very, very excited for Nosferatu. I would like to see it today. Okay, so that was three?

I believe so. I'm sorry. Untouchables, War of the Worlds. Yeah, that was your fourth. That was my fourth. Untouchables, War of the Worlds, The Northmen. Rogue One and Northmen. Those were some kinky picks.

Yeah, I wanted to be... That's nice. Hmm. the Northman and Northman those were some kinky picks yeah I wanted to be yeah that's nice hmm kinky picks we've got two picks right

yeah I feel like I want more than two 90s movies and there's a couple that are still on the board you have wild card yeah

oh I have wild card I know they won't all last I don't think I mean there are some like truly like classic there's a couple iconic things that I don't think I mean there are some like truly like classic there's a couple iconic things

that I can't believe haven't been taken yet I have to do Terminator 2 Judgment Day T-800 versus T-1000 the final battle so not the LA River I would have thought

you would do LA River too I it's just the chase yeah it's not it's good it's really good it's really good

come with me if you want to live like that it's really exciting and fun and works great and Guns N' Roses you could be mine absolutely huge fan

I was there day one at Tower Records okay use your illusion volume one and two please you're the only Guns N' Roses fan

you get it no I'm just I'm pledging my allegiance but the ending is very similar to the Jurassic Park thing where I was like, did not know. I didn't know this was possible. And to be a kid when something like that was happening,

I'm sure kids who saw Star Wars felt the same way when they saw the Millennium Falcon rise up and go into hyperspace. But the final battle, there's a moment specifically when the T-1000 touches, they're in the middle of their fight and he touches a bar and his hand becomes the same color as like the caution, like hazard tape on the bar. Where you're like, what even is this technology of this molten shape-shifting mega killing robot? Like there's no way this thing will ever be destroyed? Like, I actually believed

that Arnold was cooked. And he wasn't, obviously. He figured it out. Yeah. Just an amazing sequence. Is this the second Cameron? Yeah, because we had aliens. After aliens.

So that's my first one. Terminator 2 Judgment Day. Okay. We've got two90s 2 2000s 1 2010s 1 2020s this is the one I was this is the Marvel one

I was talking about I'll take it in 2010s I really really like it I like Winter Soldier I'm not in the hive of like Winter Soldier is one of the coolest movies ever made

I don't and I certainly don't think it's the parallax view but there's an elevated fight sequence that what is do you think it's better do you think it's better?

Do you think the Russos are better filmmakers than Warren Beatty? You know that I don't. You know that I don't. You know that I worship. I was at Rules Don't Apply. Can I tell you something? You and I still have not seen Rules Don't Apply. When will we watch it?

So, I don't know. I mean, I would love to do a Warren Beatty episode at some point. So, I was planning for next week's episode. So next week's episode is If and Back to Black. And I've been thinking, I've been, so If, which you've been really anticipating. We're actually going together on Friday morning. Would you like to come?

I discussed this with him. I think that I will stake my claim that I will never see If ever. I thought that might be the case. I know, but I just thought it would be funny. On Friday, I actually have a couple of things I got to do. Okay, so if and back to Black or Coming Out, I also thought it would be really funny if we added Unfrosted, the Jerry Seinfeld Pop-Tarts movie

to this list. Oh my God. And we could just do a May Massacre. So then I was looking back at worst release release dates in history worst movie releases in history and so the movies that opened the widest with the lowest box office and rules don't apply it's literally like eighth all time yeah it opened like 2400 screens and made 1.2 million dollars it's gonna make a lot of money though right i think it'll be very popular yeah um critics do not seem to be enjoying it i haven't seen it yet yet. So who knows? We'll see. Maybe. What if I love it?

Yeah. What if you start crying? Oh my God. I'm just going to call you a cuck. I love the cuck. All right. Speaking of being called a cuck, I am taking a Marvel film.

Yeah. Captain America, the Winter Soldier, the elevator sequence between Chris Evans and Frank Grillo and all the boys in Hydra. They all get Soldier the elevator sequence between Chris Evans and Frank Grillo and all the boys

in Hydra they all get on the elevator together and this is the one time where Marvel just turns into John Wick the choreography

and execution of that scene which is pretty short but the tension that is built up as more and more dudes keep getting like black

you know bulletproof vest wearing dudes keep getting on this elevator. And then there's three get on, and then three get on, and then three get on. And Chris Evans is looking around, and he's like, shit, I'm going to have to do some damage. And it ends with two really cool things. One, the classic, like, step on the shield, and he catches the shield after he's dispatched all the guys. And then two, the elevator finally opens, and then there's a hundred more guys running at him.

And so his only option is to literally jump through the broken glass of the elevator and fall. Yeah. And he falls like 10 stories and just lands on his shield and just looks like it hurts like a motherfucker. Obviously, he's a super soldier, so he's fine. But again, like good, good bit of comedy and a really cool action scene. One of my favorite Loki things is when it's obvious that the guy, the two people in the fight, there's, like, Frank Grillo could obviously

beat Chris Evans up in real life, but, like, is like, oh, no, Captain America, you're kicking my ass. In that scene, at least in fairness to him, when he's got, like, a giant taser, I think his line is like, nothing personal, Cap.

Which is pretty funny. But this is like up there with like Conor McGregor versus Jake Gyllenhaal. You know? Yeah. Well, don't spoil your next pick. I mean. We forgot to mention Roadhouse 2. Oh, yeah.

Oh, boy. Did you see Roadhouse 1? No. Okay. Did you guys like it? We enjoyed ourselves. It's pretty bad, but it was fun. Yeah. But it seemed like it was kind of like. That might be the theme of the year. Getting more of that lately. Okay. Did you guys like it? We enjoyed ourselves. It's pretty bad, but it was fun.

Yeah. But it seemed like it was kind of like getting more of that lately. But it's like, again, your definition of fun

is different than my definition of fun. So, you know, I didn't. I wouldn't say there were very many sharply drawn female

characters in the world of Roadhouse. According to Chris's close personal friend, Jeff Bezos, 80 million people watched Roadhouse once. That's right.

80 million. Chris and I were seeded. Okay. So I've made my two picks, right? You're on female characters. Right. It's fair to say. Yeah.

So I took Terminator 2 and Captain America Civil War or Captain America The Winter Soldier. Okay. So I'm going to, I have two 90s picks. And everything else, I have one. So I think I'm going to try to fill them out. Okay. In the 2000s, I'm going to do, from Born Identity,

Escaping the Embassy. Great call. Which is like, you know, I know that people Escaping the Embassy. Great, great call. Which is like, you know, I know that people... Grabbing the radio. Yeah, I know that people would probably do some more of the just Matt Damon punching people. Or the Mini Cooper case. Sure, yeah. But, you know, he has to jump out of the...

It's incredible. It is another one of those where it's like, it is a set piece. He is moving through the embassy. He's got to figure out, he's got to evade a bunch of people he's got to climb down the the thing yeah it's really good um i'm a fan of those films so that's 2000s in 80s i'll since i didn't get the top gun maverick last dog fight i will take top gun last dog fight oh yeah yeah re-engage maverick which is really important do you think they did

goose dirty in that film? do you think they should have let him live? um no I think that it brings the emotion to both that film

and the other film and I'm sorry for him why don't they kill more characters now in the 2020s? um because they need them to come back

in the sequels and and part threes. They cucked out so hard on Chewbacca. Yeah. That was one of the worst things that happened in movies in 2019. This is like, who's the South Dakota lady? Kristi Noem.

Yeah. You're like verging really close to Kristi Noem territory right now. I'm not familiar with her game. She killed her dog. And then wrote about it in the movie. She shot her dog and wrote about it in her memoir. Yeah, because it wasn't a good enough hunting dog or something like that. Or it was annoying some other patifers.

And then it was also like, she was like, and they should have killed Commander, the Biden dog as well. Who said that? This same woman, Kristi Noem. What? You got to read the paper, man. Yeah. It sounds like I shouldn't. Yeah.

So people are upset about that. Did you read the entire memoir? No, I didn't. i just read the excerpts in fact i haven't read it in context so i don't know what kind of issues this dog was having um that's a wild take to say we you should kill someone else's dog no her own dog right but she said you should kill commander she was just like oh and biden should kill commander commander was definitely i i don't agree with the approach that they took with commander but i also don't think that commander yeah i mean it's got to be bipartisan yeah you know did you guys know that

if alice was going to be a boy we were going to name her commander didn't work out that way um okay so that was 80s 2010ss, let's be real. I'm going to do the Fast Five safe heist. Let's be real. Which is my brand. Because here's what happened. Is that when they jump out of the building into another building? No.

It's when they want to get into the safe, but they can't get into the safe. So they attach a bunch of cars to it. And then they remove the safe from the bank. And they just drag this giant safe around Rio from the back of the cars. It's the dumbest, best thing that's ever happened. And it is like- I love that you love these movies. I don't actually.

The more they go on, I realize I just love the safe heist. It is where my interest in stupid fun, but there is also a little bit of, there is comedy in it. That's funny, right? They're like, well, we can't get into the safe, but we is also like a little bit of, there is comedy in it. Like, that's funny. Yeah. Right?

They're like, well, we can't get into the safe, but we can just go like this. And then they do like a safe swap at some point. Oh, right. Yeah. None of it makes any sense,

but it's great. And that's Fast Five. That's Fast Five. I think I have seen that one. This is the franchise that destroyed film? Listen, that's fine. I agree.

It certainly destroyed Brie Larson's career. And then 2020s. I'm going to go back to cars and I'm going to go back to Mission Impossible. Whoa.

Oh, well, trifecta. Listen, I like these. I enjoy these films. I'm not criticizing. So I am going to do

the the Rome car chase set piece from a Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning. In a very small car. So in a way, you've got Mini Cooper representation. And also, again, very funny as well as, you know, well choreographed. You hung me out to dry all summer with Fallout.

You didn't support me. With Dead Reckoning. Yeah. Sorry, with Dead Reckoning. I was very specific about my notes on Dead Reckoning. You didn't support me. Which is the AI shit

is not compelling. And also now Those velociraptors in the Sicario tunnel would have something to say about that. It's going to be a whole

underwater sequel. And I don't really like underwater action that much. No one has really picked here a lot of underwater like deep dives.

I was wondering if you have another one coming. For underwater? Yeah. I doubt it, actually. Okay. Interesting. Good to know.

So how many have you made now? So I think that was all four because I did, what did I do? I did Top Gun, Last Dogfight for 80s. I did Born Escaping the Embassy for 2000s.

Fast Five Safe Heist for 2010s. And the Mission Impossible, the Dead Reckoning Car Chase for 2010s and the mission impossible the dead reckoning car chase for 2020s okay so we're getting down nearer to the end of it so i i just have wild cards left so i presently have 180s 290s 2 2000s 2 2010s and 1 2020s so let's just close those out before wild card shall we i'm going back to brian Palma. I'm going to say hello to my little friend from Scarface. Good one. This is the action sequence that invented hip-hop and video games.

Yeah. Both, I think, probably existed before this, but yeah. Not to me. You're like really Christine homing really hard right now yeah if only someone

had shot Scarface's dog maybe we would have gotten into this trouble in the first place I think that would have just motivated him more

probably or he might have shot his own dog what can you say coked out Al Pacino with a machine gun firing at all of his enemies. You know, his haters.

This is me reading YouTube comments. You know, this is... Sometimes you have to channel that energy. YouTube.com, AdRingerMovies, please. That's my first pick. Okay. So, 2020s.

Gotta go with the heart, obviously. And by the heart, I mean the heart surgery and ambulance. Michael Bay's masterpiece. Oh, that's beautiful. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Thank you. Thanks, brother.

There was just a fist bump between Chris and Sean for those of you listening at home. Ambulance bombed so hard. It didn't. I know, but... It didn't.

America said no and Chris and I cried together. I think this is another... This movie came out while I was on leave and I listened to every minute

of you two morons just being like this is the most important thing that has ever happened in 20 years people are gonna look back

at this and Six Underground and they were gonna be like we fucked up I will be really honest for like one second I did think about like the first Six Underground

car chase through Rome that like at some point they shoot up the Uffizi or something and then I was like no there's also the boat magnet sequence oh shit both of those movies are incredible and people who don't agree need to wake up yeah they need to wake up they need to read Kristi Noem's

memoir they need to better understand stop watching Kelly Reichert movies don't watch First Cow watch Six Underground Sean Fennessey I guess I multitudes multitudes that's the whole thing

that's the reason we're doing this what you guys have going with Ambulance is really beautiful no Ambulance is a fucking masterpiece it's sick

it's so sick there's three sequences in Ambulance that I had every No, Ambulance is a fucking masterpiece. Yeah. It's so sick. There's three sequences in Ambulance that I had. Every single other movie that's like, I have a cool idea for a drone shot, it's me lazily following

a car through the forest. Those people suck. He threw a fucking drone under like a truck. A truck. Yeah. And then there's a scene where like a fucking helicopter

is like flying under bridges in the LA River. That's what he actually saw Terminator 2 and he's like, my balls are bigger. He did an LA River sequence. That's right.

What a king. He is a lord. This is the only Michael Bay pick so far. Pretty crazy. I guess there's a chance for others. Yeah.

So I don't want to step on any of them, but we should probably pay more homage to Michael Bay, the maestro of mayhem. Okay. Those are my two picks. I got four. So I have to do a 90 Okay. Those are my two picks. I got four.

So I have to do a 90s. These are your last four. Yeah. 90s, a 2000s. What do I owe here, Bob? You've got two wild cards. Oh, two wild cards.

And the wild cards can be pre-80s or it can be anything. So the wild cards, we didn't mention this. They can be anything. So they can be, Chris suggested maybe if there was some silent cinema you might want to draft from.

Oh yeah, April Gantz. I won't name any names. If you want to draft from the 40s, the 70s. What about from television? No. Interesting prejudice on your part. But you can also draft still

from the 2000s or from the 90s. Yes, you can. Of course. You can repeat the decades. So I have four picks still from the 2000s or from the 90s. Yes, you can. Of course. You can repeat the decades. So I have four picks. For the 1990s, this one, I wouldn't feel good about this not getting picked. It's the Ramp Jump from Speed.

Oh, interesting. I had Keanu boarding the bus. Oh, that's a great one. Which I could still also have. Both good. Ramp Jump from Speed, a really great piece of filmmaking where you're like, are they going to make it? Yeah.

And there's actually an emotional component to that with the other SWAT guys being like, oh, shit. It looks like they're going to make it? Yeah. And there's actually like an emotional component to that with like the other SWAT guys being like, oh shit, like looks like they're going to die, you know? And it's just a great bit where there's also like that budding romance between Sandra Bullock and Keanu Reeves in like the moment, you know? And they're like, pulls her in. It's great.

Did you see that they said that they would be open to Speed 3 together i did an interview do you think jason patrick will be coming back or speed two yeah he's gonna be murdered in the first okay so i have um the ramp jump from speed that's my 90s for my second 2000s i'm going to take the hammer fight from old boy yeah this is next to my list as. You just direct eye contact with me as you enunciated the hammer fight from Bullboy. People want to make sure that I'm seen. The hallway fight sequence. Incredible.

It's just a guy hitting guys with hammers. You really have been Park Chan-wooking lately. He's quite an important filmmaker to me. So, yeah, that was a long tracking shot going along a hall as this guy fights his way through countless adversaries with a hammer. And he hits them in the head. Incredible one. Wild Cards.

And I can't pick TV. No. So just as like a nod, I'll do the final shootout from The Wild Bunch. Very good. Very good. To our guy, Sam Peckinpah, another problematic filmmaker

who I don't think would really have survived a Guardian expose about his... He enjoyed consuming marijuana as well. Cocaine, marijuana,

whiskey. He was getting high on films. But there's a lucidity in The Wild Bunch. I want to pick one thing for us because I think we really enjoyed it.

I hope I don't take it from you. Yeah, it's okay. It's the Freehold Heist from Tenet. Oh, beautiful. Yeah. There's several things from Tenet you could pick.

I totally forgot about Freeholds. That's where the paintings are stored? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For tax evasion, they exist all over. Thank you so much for fighting Freeholds.

And I believe that is when they first start fighting backwards. Freeports. Freeports. Freeport. Right. Not Freeholds. And I believe that is when they first start fighting backwards. Free Ports. Free Ports. Free Ports. Not Freehold, New Jersey, but Free Ports.

No, I'm talking about Robert Pattinson's on the turnpike. He's getting Cinnabon. So I thought you could do that. You could do the opera. The symphony. You have the opera.

You could do the kitchen fight. You could do the temporal pincer movement. I mean, you could do the highway chase. You could have the opera. Yeah. You could do the kitchen fight. You could do the temporal pincer movement. I mean, you could do the highway chase. The highway, the reverse highway chase. What a fucking banger. I can't believe Tenet. If Tenet came out this year,

I honestly think that everything would be solved. We would all smoke the peace pipe and just be like, actually, it's chill, man. Don't worry about it. Tenet's out. I'm not right about a lot of things, but. Like Putin and Zelensky just like meeting in the middle.

Yeah, predator meme. Great. Sorry. What else? I want to get a little bit of horror. Do you have more picks? I don't think you have any more. You're done, Chris.

You're done. That's it. I mean, it's beautiful. Let's keep going. You just picked Tenet and The Wild Bunch as your wild cards. And then I had my 90s. My bad. Okay, I'll just mention these later.

But, you know, if you'd like to continue to speak, I guess. No, you guys got to finish up. I've got two picks. I've got two wild card selections left. Yeah. I've got a ton of movies that I can't believe I'm not going to take

but I'm going to take one 1970s pick I'm going to take Quint's Demise from Jaws oh sure where the size and scope

of Bruce the Shark is fully revealed obviously coming on the heels of the incredible monologue that he delivers the night before Shark goes in the water you keep going obviously coming on the heels of the incredible monologue that he delivers the night before.

Jack goes in the water. You keep going. So that's another Spielberg. Yeah. And then to just keep it super contemporary, super contempt. The pool party and night swim. Paul Atreides riding Shia LaBeouf. Oh, hey.

In part two. Way to go, man. Which is the same thing that we're talking about, that electrified feeling that is literally the reason I go to the movies, which is to stand up and cheer. Those were my two wild cards. That's beautiful. Thank you.

Okay, so my first pick is going to be another pick from the 90s but not from a traditional action movie and it's it is the ship going down this is a perfect pick oh good this is this is like this in trinity test yeah i can't i i'm can't believe like i got in the last yeah like that this is that these are the last picks i didn't even think of it but you're right but yeah of course and Winslet and Leo like right

you know holding hands and taking that one last breath totally perfect perfect movie shout out shout out Big Jim

and then I mean I have a lot of options of things that I could do and there are some things here I'm kind of torn.

I'm torn. And like part of me wants to do a different one for variety and for like Amanda's heart. But then you also, okay, I'm choosing. I'm not going to take the Velociraptors getting into the kitchen from Jurassic Park because you already did Jurassic Park. So you're doing the Matrix Reloaded.

That gives me another idea. What if we put Velociraptors in the next season of The Bear? Great point. Would the Velociraptor be like, yes, chef. The Velociraptor's

being able to open the door. Why not? That's good. It's very scary. It is also like if you live with a toddler, like the moment that they can open the door

and then get through it is the most real. I'm struggling with that right now to you live with a toddler, like the moment that they can open the door and then get through, it is the most real. I'm struggling with that right now, to be honest with you. But like it happens and it is that level of fear realized in the home. Where they're like.

Yeah, I mean, you know. Yeah. Okay, the one that I'm going to take and I'm deciding between two heists in one film that's very important to me. I didn't get The Heat, Bank Robbery, but I can still take The Town, Bank Robbery. Yes. Or, and I think what I'm actually going to do is take The Fenway Heist.

That's good. From The Town. That's good stuff. Okay. Yeah, that's great. You don't, I mean. No, I'm trying to think of which I like better. They're both good.

Yeah. I think that's the better pick because the bank heist is too iterative of heat. Yeah, and it's still very good. There's also like the, you know, the one scene also iterative of heat

when they're like in the nun masks and then they show up and the police officer is right there and just looks away which is not even full action. There's a lot of...

And that's a little point break-y as well. Yeah. I know. But the Fenway heist brings it all together. That's also... This is the not fucking around crew, right? Not fucking full action. There's a lot of... And that's a little point breaky as well. But the Fenway heist brings it all together. That's also... This is the not fucking around crew, right? Not fucking around crew.

Yeah, which is extremely important. And I really love the film The Town. Does Jon Hamm being in Unfrosted make it more appealing to you? It's Jon Hamm. Do you know Jon Hamm's going to be in the next Taylor Sheridan show? He is.

It's called Landman. And it's about Billy Bob Thornton and Jon Hamm are oil barons. No. Yeah. No. But they work for the Bene Gesserit. And they work for Velociraptors. What time period?

Contemporary. It's like contemporary oil. Do we have oil barons in the United States right now? I think we do. Rich people in Houston? Yeah. Oh. I mean, I don't know if it's like contemporary oil. Do we have oil barons in the United States? I assume we do. Rich people in Houston? Yeah. Oh. I mean, I don't know

if it's like right now. I just, they're shooting it. Okay. Did T. Boone Pickens pass? He did, I think. I think he did. He did. Yeah.

But not before he blessed the Oklahoma State University with just incredible athletic facilities. Yeah. 2019. Was he a good man? Who can say?

He had a net worth of $500 million. It's hard to get that much money without being a land man. Okay. Honorable mentions. Oh, I mean, so many. I cannot believe that Neo dodging the bullets didn't get drafted.

Yeah, there's a lot. It's the next on my list for the 1990s. I think I went with a... I went with a... I went with a... a childlike pick with T2. But I actually... I also went with my heart with the 90s. So that's fine.

There's three for Neo. There's the training sequence with Morpheus. There's the lobby shootout. Which is amazing. The lobby shootout I like, but it's just guns. And I don't think that that's what's great about that movie. Well, then there's Dodge this up on the roof.

There's dodge this and then there's no when he stops the bullets at the end. All of those are perfect. Those are cool scenes. Not quite,

yeah, they don't quite do. But this dodging the bullets is like, I mean, it's stupid that one of us didn't do it. It doesn't like look that good anymore.

You know what I mean? Maybe Michael Bay should remake The Matrix. Would watch. With Jake Gyllenhaal. Would definitely watch. That is my number one honorable mention though

is The Matrix not going drafted. So I'm with you Amanda. Oh man. We left a bunch off. The car and foot chase in Point Break. Yes. With Catherine Bigelow

running behind those guys. Incredible. I was going to put the Moscow car chase from Born Supremacy, which is like Greengrass at his most shaky cam. That's Carl Urban

chasing Matt Damon. I had Helms Deep from The Two Towers. The big battle in the second Yeah, the big battle in the second Lord of the Rings, which is largely...

Don't recall. I'm not freaking about. That's sick for you guys. Were those wizards? Were those elves? All of them.

They're all there. Do hobbits fight or are hobbits pacifists? Certainly. Wow. They have to go to war. They ride on the

Ents. You know what the Ents are? No. What are those? They're giant trees. Yeah. They're tree people.

They're walking trees. So how are they riding the tree? Like are they just sitting is so how are they riding the tree like are they just sitting in the branches and then the tree people and they're like

fighting are they like jousting or are they dropping things like what's their fight strategy they're kind of just

like picking up orcs and throwing them down okay to bring it full circle to what we talked about earlier in this pod are you surprised that nothing from

Fury Road got picked or is Fury Road so for now I mean like the sandstorm would be the probably the Mad Max movie I wrote down was Mad Max 2

yeah the final chase in Mad Max 2 maybe I should have taken that because that is a blueprint for a lot of chase sequences and also obviously what George Miller's

doing right now despite the fact that he was cancelled and I don't I feel like Fury Road doesn't have a sequence well I have been re-watching all the Mad Maxes in anticipation of Furiosa.

And I, so they're fresh on my mind, but I at some point found it hard to pick like one scene. You know, I'm just like, they're just like, they're driving. It's breakneck. Yeah, the whole time. And people are chasing other people. And it's spectacular things happening, but I can't identify one particular set piece. Yeah, so I guess I don't think of that movie in that way, even though it features the coolest action of the 2010s.

Would you guys consider The Tavern in Inglourious Bastards to be a set piece? I thought about it, because obviously I love that movie, but it's... Like, it is? I mean, it is, and the tension is right so intense you know but and it does result in a shootout and it is essentially a standalone piece of filmmaking from i mean he

does it in chapters so it works that way but but it's more psychological actually what's happening with like the yeah and then with the release of the big shootout. Yeah, I think what we're what we're doing here is like big action set pieces. So I have the the plane crash in flight. I also wrote that down. I have the the tube chase in Skyfall.

That's a good one. I had the opening Grand Bazaar. I just want to say because nobody talks about this movie. There are two incredible sequences in World War Z. There is the escape

from Philadelphia and there's the fall of Jerusalem and they were both excellent zombie sequences. Two of your key interests. I don't like that movie. Why not? You may recall

we were friends when it came out and I was like, this is okay. We were friends. And then the day after World War Z. Remember when Fincher was definitely doing World War Z 2?

Yeah. That was a weird time. Aliens, Power Loader. Yeah. Is that the... Yeah. Get away from her, you bitch. Something I'm saying to my wife all the time.

Roadhouse Throat Rip. Yeah. I mean, the final, the ending of Roadhouse. Yeah. But the fight by the riverbanks. Yeah, where Swayze is just like, we're going nuclear. Fuck it.

The eight-minute fight sequence and they live. Not one of your favorites, probably. Not one of your favorites, as I recall. You thought it was too long. I thought it was a bit long for two guys who were just like

basically going to be friends at the end anyway. Can I tell you one I liked as a kid? Sure. Neil before Zod in Superman 2. Yeah. When Terrence Stamp

comes through and Superman's given up his powers to live a normal life with Lois Lane. Speaking of getting cucked, wow. Jeez.

Clark. It's a tough one. Do you have any thoughts on Superman's new suit? Do not like. Oh, God. I really like it. I was not expecting it.

You don't like it I didn't like how it looked I didn't like that image wasn't there a whole thing about how Superman doesn't wear socks or whatever or he's a cuck

because he has to put socks on I was in Europe I didn't see a lot of this to me this is so fucking stupid this snow fight in Inception I have the hallway fight in Inception

with Joseph Gordon-Levitt being upside down. That's a big one. I just want to say hard-boiled, we didn't say anything about John Woo, but the hospital shootout

and hard-boiled. And then my horror thing was the Drew Barrymore kill and scream. Oh, good one. Oh, so fucked up, but really good. I want to do

a best kills draft. Can you think you can handle that? Best vicious murders on screen? Sure. Because it doesn't have to be directly related

to horror movies. It doesn't. No. And there are a lot of people who are viciously murdered in movies I like. That's a very good point. So, you know,

I might have to like phone a friend a bit, but... Murder draft is just... God. That's good content flowing. Murder draft is good. The prison riot and the raid too? I'm surprised you didn't take it. I regret it. is just God that's good content murder Baft is good the prison riot and the

raid 2 I'm surprised you didn't take it I regret it honestly I regret I had to do

Vader and I had to do Sicario we did some personal dork pics I think on this one all three of

us the bamboo force battle in house of flying daggers the Zhang and Mo movie is unreal

is beautiful we didn't really do any like aside from the Kill Bill stuff like the elegant martialimou movie is unreal is beautiful we didn't really do any like aside from the Kill Bill stuff like the elegant martial arts stuff but that sequence

is amazing I wrote down Shaun of the Dead Don't Stop Me Now the pub scene where he's killing the zombies speaking of kind

of horror but amazingly staged I really really really like the fight between Michael Serra and

Chris Evans and Scott Pilgrim where he's playing a movie star and he fights him with a skateboard. We just gave you our animated movie nods. That's not an animated film. That's a real movie. I know that, but Chris's reaction was funny.

Michael Cera starved the next Wes Anderson movie. Good. That makes sense. That's my take. Watched Asteroid City on the plane back from... I heard you wept. Good. Cool. That makes sense. That's my take. Watched Asteroid City on the plane back from I heard you wept. I wept.

Oh. I got it. It's really beautiful. You got it. Like I feel like I saw it once in the theater and I was like great Wes Anderson movie

and then I watch it and there's stuff I noticed where I was like holy shit. It's really beautiful. What was it that triggered that? Was it when the alien landed? Similar to how you felt

when the aliens landed in War of the Worlds. It's when Chow Yun Fat shows up. Atomic Blonde? The fight? The stairway. Remember when we were like, this is better than

Lawrence of Arabia when we walked out of that screening? Yeah. South by Southwest is good. The Fassbender fight in Haywire? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Pretty good. The Fassbender fight in Haywire. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Pretty good. And you love Gina Carano. I like her on

screen work. Yeah. Her politics is why you hired a private investigator, as I recall. Any other closing thoughts? Any other honorable mentions before we recap? I think we got most of them or at least got the movies. I mean, like we didn't do Tom Cruise motorcycle jump from Dead Reckoning.

No, but Mission Impossible is well represented. Tom Cruise doing stuff is probably... What is the final tally of directors and of people? Less Harrison Ford than I expected. Yeah, we didn't pick the throw me the idol sequence the directors are listed at the bottom

for you all there cool thanks Bob thank you Bobby I just want to say shout out to the Wind River shootout too

Wind River yeah who wrote and directed that film Taylor Sheridan interesting intriguing so filmmakers

leading the pack Steven Spielberg four films Christopher McQuarrie number two with three tied with brian de palma christopher nolan and james cameron they all have three films denis villeneuve two films michael mann john mctiernan andrew davis martin campbell chad stahelski joseph kaczynski quentin tarantino gareth edwards Robert Eggers, the Russo brothers, Doug Liman, Tony Scott, Justin Lin, Michael Bay, Jan de Bon, Park Chan-wook, Sam Peckinpah, and Ben Affleck,

all tied at one. Okay. Chris, you went first, so why don't you recap first? In the 1980s, I took the Marine Ambush. I went first, but that's okay. Amanda, you went first. Why don't you recap first? Your name was first on the list. I'm sorry. I'll do it fast. Aliens, Marine Ambush, and Untouchables, Potemkin Train Station from the 1980s. In the 90s, I took the Heat Bank Robbery

and the Speed Ramp Jump. In the 2000s, I took the War of the Worlds, Pods Emerging, and Old Boy's Hallway Fight. In the 2010s, I took Sicario Border Crossing and Rogue One. The YouTube title for that scene is Vader's rage in the 2020s I took Oppenheimer the Trinity test and the Northman village raid and for my wild card I took the final shoot out of the wild bunch and tenants Freeport heist I did want to circle back

one thing Oppenheimer. Casey Affleck, that's the character you understood best? What was his name? Boris something? Was it Lieutenant Bash? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it's an incredible scene. Would you like to go or should I go? Go ahead. Because it's in order in the doc.

Yeah. Okay. In the 1980ss i got the fire hose explosion jump from die hard and say hello to my little friends from scarface in the 1990s i got hello to the t-rex in jurassic park and the final battle in terminator 2 judgment day in the 2000s i got the dark knight truck flip and the Crazy 88's battle in Kill Bill Volume 1. In the 2010's I got the bathroom fight in Mission Impossible Fallout

and the elevator fight in Captain America the Winter Soldier. In the 2020's I got the final mission in Top Gun Maverick and the heart surgery done via FaceTime

in Ambulance directed by Michael Bay. In Wild Card I got Quinn's demise from J from jaws perhaps you've seen it and in dune part two paula treaty is riding shy halloo in the 1980s i got the raiders of the lost ark truck chase and the final dog fight from top gun original in the 1990s i got the mission impossible langley heist and the fugitive dam jump in the 2000s i got the Mission Impossible Langley Heist and the Fugitive Dam Jump. In the 2000s, I got the Casino Royale Parkour opening scene and the Embassy Escape from the Bourne Identity.

The 2010s, I got the Mission Impossible Halo Jump and Fast Five Safe Heist, my favorite. In the 2020s, I got Sacre Coeur from John Wick Chapter 4 and the Rome Car Chase from Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning. And in Wild Card I got the Titanic, Ship Sinkin', and the Fenway Heist from the town. I think you might win. Mine's so violent.

There's a de-emphasis on winning of late if you realized. You know, the Ringerverse, they tried to mix it up with us. They tried to be like, we killed you guys. I'm over it okay it's about making memories this was a very civil draft I know we didn't really

freak out each other all draft it's nice the only loser here christy gnome and also the and also the entire filmmaker female filmmaker population

who yeah I got Catherine Bigelow I got Catherine Bigelow. I got Catherine Bigelow. Didn't I? No. No. No. You mentioned her

as an honorable mention for Point Break. My bad. I mean, I'll happily trade. Sounds like Kelly Reichardt also took a stray on this spot. That's tough.

Sorry. So next week, Charles Holmes will be joining us. He will be seeing the film Imaginary. If? If. If. He won't be seeing Imaginary He will be seeing the film Imaginary. If? If.

If. He won't be seeing Imaginary. Imaginary is Amanda's favorite movie of 2024. Back to Black. John C., I don't want to be friends anymore. What was that girl's name? It was Alice.

You've seen Back to Black. No, no. You haven't seen Back to Black. Have you seen it? I have seen it. So I'm going, do you want to come on Friday night? Back to Black? Oh, maybe I would. Okay. Yeah. You haven't seen Back to Black. Have you seen it? I have seen it. So I'm going. Do you want to come on Friday night? Back to Black?

Oh, maybe I would. Okay. Yeah. You like Amy Winehouse? Is that Nuggets? Probably is. Oh, I think I have to wash my hair that night. I want to watch Joker.

Do you want to watch Joker? Jokic. Well, you do. Maybe you can hang with Zach and Knox and watch basketball, and then I'll go watch Back to Black by myself. Okay. Basketball? Unfrosted?

I only watch Jerry Seinfeld's Commencement Speeches. I don't watch his films. Okay. Oh, boy. There you go, Bob. Thanks to Corey McConnell. Thanks to Jack Sanders. Thanks to Bobby Wagner, our producer, for this episode. There you go, Bob. Thanks to Corey McConnell. Thanks to Jack Sanders. Thanks to Bobby Wagner,

our producer for this episode. Tune in next week. We'll be talking about some very, very good films. When am I on it again? This is it. This was the last one. See you later, buddy. Thank you.