The Big Picture - The Advice Hour

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

Amanda and Sean went live on YouTube to give you, the people, life advice. They answered questions about how to confront smelly friends, whether you can base a romantic relationship on a mutual passion for cinema, how to incorporate movies into wedding speeches, and much more. Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Producers: Jack Sanders and John Richter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm Amanda Davids. And this is The Big Picture Live, a conversation show about your problems and our solutions. We are coming to you live on YouTube and soon to your podcast listening spaces because we did not have an idea for an episode. So we came up with an advice episode. Sure. Also, it was Father's Day. Happy Father's Day. Thank you so much. And you didn't want to have to prep.

That's right. I had a real panic moment last night at like 9 15 when I thought that we were doing a double header today and there was a movie that I was supposed to watch and I spent all yesterday, you know, trying to parent so that my husband could have a father's day. You crammed for a pause. I didn't. Then I checked the schedule. Okay. You know, that's a relief. The spreadsheet is always there for me.

Fortunately, this design worked out perfectly. We have been receiving emails for days now. Jack Sanders has been compiling them. We're also, we got a chat going here. Can we go to the chat right away? Because right before we started, you read something. And I wanna go straight to our people. You wanna start with this first question in the chat.

Listen, it's desperate people. And also, if you're taking time out of your life to be posting that in the chat before we go live, you're in need. Okay. So we can absolutely do that. Yes. This already is throwing off Jack Sanders' plan.

Okay. I'm sorry, Jack. But that's okay. Honestly, I think it's great. I thought this was live. I thought we were vibing. We are and it is. We can see Jack on the screen.

Yes. Hi, Jack. You look great. Last time we were doing this, we both had cocktails in front of us. Yeah. This time it's 930 in the screen. Yes. Hi, Jack. You look great. Last time we were doing this, we both had cocktails in front of us. This time it's 9.30 in the morning. I got my iced coffee with real dairy. I just taught Sean about hot girls do dairy.

Don't know what, still don't know what that is. You said those words, but I don't know what that is. Or hot girls whole milk. I mean, I don't like totally know what it is. And what I said to you was like, I never left. The real hot girls just stayed with Dairy because I can digest it. Who were the proponents?

Like who were the authors of this movement? TikTok, obviously, you know? And I think like, you know, younger women who post. Got it. Well, there was a younger woman I think in our chat who posted something very important to you. And the first question that you would like to answer is, Amanda, comma, what do I do

about the four months sleep regression? This is, this is tough stuff. Okay. So for all the people watching who don't know what the four month sleep regression is, including, I guess, everyone in our booth, you know, it's important to teach the next generation. Four month sleep regression is when your child, your newborn hits four months and forgets how to sleep. And then the whole house forgets how to sleep and it's really dire. Did that happen to you on this go round?

Well, so here's the thing. Is it four months sleep regression is like a very famous one. And if you Google four months sleep regression Reddit, you know, like lots of posts, it is sort of in the textbook, but the reality is, is like this sleep regression can happen at any time.

And if you Google however many months something sleep regression Reddit, you find a community of parents who can't sleep and who are freaking out. Bless them. You know? So. What did you learn from them? What did I learn from them? I mean, it's a little bit, you've got to trust yourself, right? I mean, it's a little bit you got to trust yourself, right? And you got to do what's best for you

because at some point teaching your kid to sleep, it's good for them, but it's also about you. So if you can handle letting him cry it out, which listen, like even yesterday, we put Saiya down to sleep, he's eight months now. He's like a pretty good sleeper, but when he doesn't want to sleep, he is so mad. He screams so loud.

Like imagine me as loud and angry as I get and then times five and that's Sai. And imagine it, okay? And like, I can't bear it, you know? Like you just can't listen to the screaming. There's something biological. So I went in and I held him, right? You know, and if that's what listen to the screaming. There's something biological. So I went in and I held him, right?

You know, and if that's what you need to do, do that. But I would say, I would say make the choices for you. So if you wanna let him cry it out or her cry it out, cause you need some sleep. Also, this is what noise machines really help for your own life. Do that. If you need to go comfort them, you can do that as well. I think we're

all just trying to get through and get as much sleep as we can. So I really just wanted to say I support you. You know? You went full Dr. Becky. That was incredible. I didn't know you had that in you. I've not seen you do that before. I guess you have like blacked this out at this point. I'm closer to it. I just did it again. But like- The hardest one for us was actually, that era was very difficult.

You did have tons of sleep regression. Alice napped on me for a year. Yeah. As often as she could. Right. However- Just like Ben Affleck, did you see Jennifer Garner posted Happy Father's Day?

And it was like a photo of Ben Affleck with one of the tiny babies sleeping on his chest. And she's like, happy Father's Day to three like people's like favorite landing place or something. Really sweet. That's nice. But she was not one of those three people. I know. I don't think so. Ultimately, it was their children. Their children. Got it. Sad. It's an American tragedy. It's okay. No, it's... Maybe it's hopeful. Maybe they have parents in their lives, you know?

I will tell you the thing that flummoxed me the most was the transition from crib to bed. Oh yeah. Because then they can just get up whenever they want. And sometimes that's three o'clock in the morning and they just start banging on the door. Yeah, because obviously that well- If there's not a lock on the door.

Yes, I'm gonna be honest, like we're just, we're telling truths here. For safety reasons, my son is locked in that door. You know? It's the same, it's true in our house. It's like, what are you gonna do? Because we went out, you know, one morning. Don't go out the front door.

At like 5 a.m., Zach went downstairs, and I was just like, hey dad, what's up? Just, and we have a lot of stairs in our house. Incredible, incredible. Yeah. You know, he's figured out all the childproofing. He can open cabinets. I'm sure there will be more parenting questions as we go, but Jack has prepared some specific questions for you.

Anyway, I was just saying, like, I think, I remember what it's like. It's a very vulnerable time, those first six months. It's really, really, really intense. And I was just there, so I see you, you know? Thank you very much, anonymous person in the chat. Keep asking deeply personal questions. In the chat, Amanda will address them when she can.

Okay, Jack, where did you want to start this conversation? Well, here's the thing, Sean, due to some technical difficulties, our viewers at home can currently not listen to me. So I think we are currently on the fly, figuring this out in real time. And due to the manic episode that is today, I'm gonna let you guys drive. I've prepped a doc. Okay. Lots of people submitted great,

I'll stitch this into the episode, but you guys can cook. I will just to communicate for the world out there, Jack Sanders cannot be heard on the live stream. Okay. So we're gonna drive this conversation. All right. Thankfully he has poured lots of questions

into the document already. And then we're just gonna to jump in the chat. We're going to hang out with people and we're going to see what happens. Oh, wow. That's going to be great. Jack wanted to start with a very specific kind of question for you. Thank you so much. This being an Amanda Ford discussion.

Right. Kristen asks, I just turned 38 and have been trying to revamp my skincare routine. I don't use retinol, but should I start? I moved to Florida a few years ago from the Northeast and I'm in the sun a lot more. So I'm worried the risks will outweigh the benefits even with sunscreen. Also, do red light masks work? Here we go.

The conversation I've been waiting for my whole life. So I'm gonna answer the specific ones first. Kristin, thank you so much. Happy birthday. I hope Florida is treating you well. It seems a little daisy down there. Okay. Well, I don't know. Listen, I'm just trying to speak to the people, you know?

I'm making connections. Kristen's name is spelled like Kristen Press, formerly of the US women's national team. Do you think it's her? It could be her. Do you know what retinol is, Sean Fennesey? Don't know. Okay. So retinol is basically a class of products related to vitamin A.

And so it does, it's supposed to encourage skin cell turnover very quickly. So it's supposed to help with fine lines, just refreshing. But it's like kind of the premier anti-aging ingredient. You're like kind of usually a normal person, but then something like this comes up and you immediately start talking like a character in Total Recall. What? Do you understand?

There is like, again, it's like the hot girls, you know, do dairy situation. There is a whole segment of the population out there who's vibing with me right now. Maybe they don't listen to this podcast, but maybe this is how I reach them. And I'm also trying to educate you because you exfoliate too much.

Anyway, retinol's like, it's not a physical exfoliant. It's more of like a chemical exfoliant, but it's doing the same thing, where it's trying to get you like new skin, because your old skin is like, wisened and wrinkled and like miserable. Right? Okay. Okay. So retinol, like, everyone thinks they hit 30, 35, whatever, and they're like, okay, now it's time for the retinol to give me a baby face.

And like, as skincare has gotten, you know, become more of an internet thing, you know, as like we all, it's a hobby of everyone. I feel like everyone jumps on it more quickly. I'm gonna be honest, Kristin, I was using retinol for a while, then I had to stop because you're not supposed to use it while you're pregnant. I'm going to be honest, Kristen, I was using retinol for a while, then I had to stop because you're not supposed to use it while you're pregnant.

And I think my skin's a lot better and is breaking out less, and so I no longer use retinol. And I do think we're sort of like over-retinoled as a society. I'm just putting it out there. Now I think there are a lot of people for whom it works, but if you don't feel like it's working for you, that's okay. There are other things that you can do. I tried Bakuchal. I don't know what that is. I'm not doing it. Also, it was like, that's a natural retinol alternative, but it was marketed for pregnant women. So it was like, mama, retinol or whatever.

And I'm out on that. As you know. Yeah, yeah, if you're selling me something, don't call me mama. So that's where I am on retinol. Obviously, if you're using retinol, you gotta be doing the sunscreen, which you're in Florida, so you have to be doing it anyway.

I recently got in some trouble with a jam session listener because she didn't think that I was using sunscreen enough. And I just want to say I am using it. You got in trouble. Every day, yeah, she damned me. And she was like, it's really important that you wear sunscreen every day. Do you wear sunscreen every day?

Was it Hillary Clinton? Who was it who DM'd you? No, it was a very nice woman. We talked about this, yeah. Yeah, it's in your moisturizer. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have to because there's a long history

of melanoma in my family. Yeah, exactly. So if you were wondering why I'm so pale, there's a very Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have to because there's a long history of melanoma in my family. So if you were wondering why I'm so pale, there's a very good reason for why I'm so pale. No, it's hugely important. I do wear sunscreen every day. Well, I'm not wearing it right now because we're inside. But once I'm done here, I'm going to go out.

And what I will be wearing, the new Merit Tinted Sunscreen is really good. I just want to let you guys know. Also- I don't really know what that is. Can we go back a step? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, LED masks? What? Well, you can answer that if you want to,

but this is related to the masks and all this care. Yeah, the sunscreen, yeah. You're an accomplished woman. Yeah. You know, you're a mother, you're a star, you're a professional in your space. I have to drink a lot of water because I'm doing infrared workout class later.

Okay, thank you for sharing. You're obviously like leaning hard into a future as an influencer, which I quite honestly respect. What else are we gonna do with our lives? Look around. I'm doing my version of it, of course. Why is the retention of the way you look now ultimately meaningful? I think of you as a confident person.

Thank you. I think of you as a person who doesn't really worry too much about what other people think. I think that's true. And I understand that there's like pride in personal beauty. As we said, as we said, we were talking about the flyaways earlier, which is just like, I'm really, really in it because I don't know if you guys know this, when you have a kid, afterwards, a lot of your hair falls out

and then it grows back like this. So I'm going through that and the only way out is through, but I am self-conscious about it, but it's because of me, not because of other people. Like what happened? Like, because you live in a society? Like, what is it that transpired? Yeah, I live in a society.

I do also think because we have to see our faces all the damn time now because of this. And because of this, you know? And I'm like, I'm on, we're on YouTube, so it's your fault, really, that I'm going through this. I did not make this decision. So this keeps being blamed on me. I accept zero responsibility.

But I do think generally it's because we're all just looking at our faces all the time because we have cameras with us constantly. And I don't think it's good. So I'm doing the best I can to stay me while also, I don't know, acknowledge the reality of my situation. Sunscreen is just for health, as you said. Had a chilling moment with my daughter yesterday.

We were hanging out, Father's Day and everything. She's being incredibly kind to me all day. It was very, very emotionally touching. I think she got a real pep talk from her mom. Oh, that's cute. And then after like a really sweet stretch of time where we're just having a long conversation, she said, dad, that man has blonde hair,

like I have blonde hair. And I said, Alice, what hair color do I have? And she said, you have gray hair. And I said, Alice, what hair color do I have? And she said, you have gray hair. And I said, I have gray hair, but do I have another color hair? And she said, yes, black. Which like, I don't, but I do now. OK. My brown has gone black a little bit.

Like at the roots? I don't want to mess with the gray and the... So it's like a contrast thing? Yeah, and so like there is something, I usually don't care about getting older. I usually am kind of comfortable. I was very comfortable getting to 40, for example. But now as I creep towards 50, and I get into like old dad territory,

like I'm often like an older dad on the playground. Not the oldest here in Los Angeles, we've got plenty of 50, 60 something fathers. I'm one of the older parents at preschool, which is a little sobering every time I realize it. I have like literal generation gap with some of the parents or they like don't know my reference points. It's kind of like the listeners of the show, honestly.

Or I'm like, I'm talking to a 32 year old on the playground like at school and I'm like, what are we? We don't have as much in common as I would have hoped. Anyway, comes at you fast. So I'm sensitive to what are we? We don't have as much in common as I would have hoped. Anyway, comes at you fast. So I'm sensitive to your desire to retain. Let's ask a question from Luke. Okay, although Jack did let us know that he's back. You're back, Jack?

False news, do you want us to? I am back. Okay, do you want to read? Yeah, I'll read. Okay, go. Luke asks, I recently got dumped by a girl named Amanda. I need Amanda to recommend some movies to help me get over Amanda. In the past few days, I've watched Blue

Valentine, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and past lives. How can we help out our sad boy Luke? Okay. Well, I mean, this sucks. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Luke. You know, on what is Luke doing? Why are we watching past lives and Blue Valentine? You know what? Okay, you went straight there. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Luke. You know? What is Luke doing? Why are we watching past lives and Blue Valentine? You know what? You went straight there. I'm leading with empathy. I did have a similar thought. We received this question on a Friday.

It's now Monday. I would say that that's enough walling. There is some acceptance. You need some time to just like feel bad about it and let the world, but I would gently suggest to Luke, as you not so gently did, that it is time to move past the wallowing, to take back, and you listen, we don't know the circumstances. Like, I don't know whether this was,

you know, like a two week thing. I don't know whether this was a two week thing. I don't know whether this is like, if it was like five years, if, you know, then. I recently got to, oh, how long they've been together? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, you think it was his wife of 40 years? Well, I mean, there's like,

I think it's from Sex and the City, that thing, where it's like you have to grieve the relationship for exactly half, for half as long as it was. So one weekend... That's a terrible rule. I mean, it is. And I believe... What if you're a middle-aged person who's getting divorced? If it's sex in the city, then I think that that was like some Charlotte advice, which is how you know that things are not really...

Suspect. ...shouldn't be following the rules. I always loved Kristin Davis, though. You watching Angels Like That? No, no. I would never. I mean... I would never. Okay. We'll do that later. So I want to give him space, but yeah,

I think it's time to move on. I think it's time for you, Luke, to start doing things that make you feel good. Yeah. You know? So what movies make you happy and feel good is like sort of, you know, it's a little tailored to you. I think we have a little bit of, you know,

letterbox boy here in us. It was the blue Valentine and the eternal sunshine that... That gave it away. That really gave it away. So your mileage may vary. I mean, heat was the first thing that came to mind. Sure. Movies that made me feel good.

I mean, they're like buckets, right? So like classic romantic comedies, bringing up baby, Lady Eve. I really like Pat and Mike, but all of the, um, Spencer, Tracy, Catherine Hepburn ones. Obviously, all the musicals from the 50s. Um, if Gene Kelly's in it, you're gonna, you're gonna feel good. Uh, let's see.

I really like Agatha Christie movies from the 70s. I'm guessing that that's not going to be your vibe, but you know, like, know your tastes. Legal thrillers from the 90s, another one. You know, if it's John Grisham related, I think it'll make you feel bad, but then justice is usually served. So maybe that'll make you feel good.

I don't know, watch John Wick if you want. Like, whatever, the whole series, you know, have a marathon. Can I tell you what my recent emotional buoy has been when I'm having a tough time? Yeah. Tenet. Okay. Just fire up Tenet.

I mean that's a good one, yeah. And just let it pour over you, let it wash over you, like a warm bath. There's no characters named Amanda in that movie, which is where you wanna start. You know, you don't wanna watch Can't Hardly Wait. I mean that's the only Amanda. You don't wanna be reminded of your gal. Yeah, yeah, that's the only one though.

Well, there was the film Amanda from 2023, the Italian film. Oh, that is a good one. Yeah, but don't watch that either if you were dating an Amanda. And there's a classic, like classic film Amanda, but I can't remember now. I can't recall either.

It's okay. Generally, we haven't covered ourselves with remember now. I can't remember either. It's okay. Generally, we haven't covered ourselves with Lori. Luke, I'm very sorry. Him mentioning past lives is funny. I did want to just discuss briefly. Yeah, does anyone want to write in with their emotional trauma about having seen past lives? Do you know how many bewildered to angry text messages I got this weekend?

You mean materialists. I mean materialists. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just for for our purposes kind of an amazing weekend Yeah, we're like everyone in our lives caught up with materialist and that was like what the fuck is this? Which has been amusing. I think I like how we approached our discussion on the episode There have been I have seen two wildly different reactions. I have seen the like pretty typical obvious Because there's famous people in it that people like the standing stuff or people are just like no matter what how good or not I have seen two wildly different reactions. I have seen the pretty typical, obvious,

because there's famous people in it that people like the standing stuff, or people are just like, no matter how good or not good the movie is, I love it. There's been less of that relative to the, in my Marxist view of society, this movie should be destroyed and sent to Mars. And I find that funny.

That is a funny reaction. A lot of criticism that seems very agitated by not just the wooden performances and some of the overwritten dialogue that you talked about, but the point of view of the film, which I think is a little bit of a reach personally. I think people heard that there was a character who worked in private equity, and they were like, not in my movie that he does not Pedro Pascal will never work in private equity in my dreams

Well, it does also you know miss like the entire history of Western literature pretty much but uh, that's which again you're welcome to have yes issue with all of that What are you reading? I'm reading Libra by Don DeLillo, which is just, I don't know, I was looking for a new book. That's great. I guess, you know, it was there on the shelf because of who I'm married to.

I guess that's, maybe Libra is the book I would recommend to you if you were disappointed with the Marxist underpinnings of materialists. Didn't like materialists? Libra by Don DeLillo. Read about the ultimate conspiracy in the American consciousness. OK, I'm glad we got that on the test.

But otherwise, literature, you know, that's kind of how it's been going. Materialists, they bait and switched a lot of people. I think that movie actually made a pretty good amount of money over the weekend. One of the biggest A24 opening weekends ever. But then pretty much everybody I talked to kind of how it's been going. Materialists, they bait and switched a lot of people. I think that movie actually made a pretty good amount of money over the weekend. One of the biggest A24 opening weekends ever. But then pretty much everybody I talked to was like,

what the fuck was that? Okay, let's go to our next question. Okay, apparently they can't hear us. They can't hear Jack again. Okay, they can't hear Jack. So I'll read Joshua's question. Do you think we need, Jack, should we reread Luke's question

or do you think they got the gist of it? They got it. right. Joshua says two years ago my wife and I moved to a new part of the country with our newborn and quickly fell into a wonderful friend group. We're all peers, we all have kids around the same age and we all get along really well. Here's the issue. One couple in the group who we really love are just smelly people. They stink. This is incredible. And as summer has heated up, they've taken to cycling over to our house to hang out.

It goes without saying, but this is completely intolerable. These stinky people are sitting on my furniture, getting their funk into my walls and floors. They have no clue and no other friend has brought it up privately to me. I'm desperate to not offend them and throw off the group dynamic, and they're amazing people, truly great friends, but this just can't go on.

How do I, A, address this issue and get them to change without hating me? Or, B, neutralize the stink strategically? Help me, Sean and Amanda. You're my only hope. So, sometimes for like advice columns, you wonder, is this made up? You know, this, this is so specific and elegant. Josh, this is very real and Joshua, I'm with you. I'm sorry, Joshua. I, I, this is your worst nightmare.

So I really want to hear what you would do. I, I try to have an invisible scent. I'm not saying that I always do. I'm a big coffee drinker, so naturally I have coffee breath sometimes. But my intention is I wear deodorant, but I don't wear cologne. And I wanna move through the world like a shadow.

I don't wanna smell, I don't wanna make a lot of noise. I wanna just quickly exit and enter wherever I need to be. And anybody who does the opposite, I find kind of annoying. Incredibly loud people and especially people that smell bad. Okay. Now if you smell, if you're wearing cologne or perfume, I have no problem with that obviously. Yeah, though we are getting... But it's aggressive.

The scent thing especially at like movies, theater performances, anything in clothes and myron, people got to dial that back a little. It can be a little overwhelming. Yeah. In this scenario, I would be very unhappy. Particularly this like you're sitting on my couch thing, you know, like your stink is getting into my stuff.

Well yeah, my number one thing is like, is outside an option. That's a good immediate solution. You know? That's kind of, that's where I am. Can we like set things outside? And also, some porch life going. And also, you gotta prep in advance. You gotta think, and this, I guess, that goes into party planning of set things up so you can drive the traffic

to mostly keep people outside. Because I think maybe you could speak to another friend in the group and see if anyone else is noticing it, but I don't think you can ever directly speak to them about it. I have a couple of additions to this. One, swimming. Well, sure, but that's access to a body of water,

which is pretty difficult. We don't know Joshua's circumstances. If there is some sort of pool environment and you have children, I would pursue that socially. Sprinkler. Water table. You want to have a sprinkler party. That's actually pretty funny. That's one way to alleviate the stink. We do that with our children all of the time. Do you think this is a situation where the stinky people just have intense pheromones that are brutal or are they just non deodorizer. Well, so the natural deodorant fad is part of the discussion. Are you? Yeah. Are you on it? I so I am, but I'm on like the powerful natural deodorant and I think it's no, I think it's pretty good. Big maja energy over here. No, I'm really, really not. I'm not maja. Like, fuck that. Honestly,

Si hasn't even gotten his meals vaccine yet. Like truly, like, fuck those people. It's dangerous. But many people do do natural deodorant and it has varying degrees of efficacy. Okay. Here's the key idea. Can you casually work into discussion with these people? Hey, I got a new deodorant and I'm loving it. And make an active recommendation to someone

without insinuating anything. Maybe you have a whole line of things that you wanna talk about. Right, like I use Malin and Getz deodorant. Right, oh you do? I love Malin and Getz in general. Yeah, fancy. And it's one of my few fancy things.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I've been loyal to it for a very long time. And I'm loyal to many of the products that they make. That I do know about you. And I could just say in the course of conversation, if I were over at your house, you know, like I'm loving this new, the bergamot deodorant. The bergamot.

Yeah, that's one of the deodorants that they sell. And- What, bergamot is like citrus related? I don't know. Or death. I know it can be used't know. Or death. I know it can be used in cooking. Or musky.

Okay. Let's Google it right now. I think eucalyptus is the other option. Orange, bergamot, orange. Okay, yeah. Citrus, okay. There we go. I don't use bergamot, I use eucalyptus, nevertheless. Okay.

I use Mega Babe Santal. Mega Babe Santal? Yeah, Mega Babe is great. I really like all of their products. What's Mega Babe? Mega Babe is like a company started by my favorite influencer, Katie Storino. What's that person up?

She's great. They have deodorant, they have anti-chafing stuff, they've got very good hand sanitizer. I would one day like to be described the way that Katie is. Okay, explain. She's described as a New York based entrepreneur, author, and body acceptance advocate. She is a body acceptance advocate. She just designed some swimwear and she has an out. Anyway, I'm a huge fan of Katie.

Okay. And I think her deodorant is actually really good. They have a whole line anyway, and it works. But I hear what you're saying. Can you set up a gifting suite? You know, like. Good idea. Weren't we her Sean? I hear what you're saying. Can you set up a gifting suite? You know, like. Mm. Good idea.

Weren't we, or Sean, we could say, hey, guess what? Old Spice is sponsoring us this month and they sent us this whole huge box of stuff and Chris Ryan didn't want any of it. Would anyone like some free deodorant? You know? That would be a good move.

I don't know. I think outside is your only move. Okay. That's really, man move. I don't know. I think outside is your only move. Okay. That's really, man, Joshua, I'm sorry. Or I guess you could say, especially if they're cycling and as it gets hotter in the summer, you can be like, hey, are you guys hot? Like, do you want to shout?

You know, you could do it and offer in like a friendly way. I'd be like, you must be very uncomfortable. Like, let me know if you want to, you know, use the facilities. I think having self-knowledge of one's odor is a bit crucial to life. And it's something people should care about. And in an organized society, if you live in a commune where no one takes care of their own odor, that's understandable. I get it. All right.

Let's go to Julian. Julian asks, I'm the best man at a wedding next month and I've been trying to figure out my speech. The groom, bride and I are all huge movie fans. So my question is, should I incorporate a movie into the speech or not at all? Do I pick one and even build the speech around its central theme? Also any general advice you have for giving a speech like this, let me know. Okay. Um, so to start with the movie thing, the thing is, is that you're giving the speech to the entire wedding and not just to these people.

So you don't want to do anything too niche because, and you don't want to do anything too involved. Because you want to bring everybody on the ride, you know? And the speeches of this nature that always fall flat for me are like a list of, you know, 14, like, inside jokes. Um... Just remembering a really good speech. Um, uh, like, Sisters of the Groom gave a speech last year, cousins of mine, and they read the instructions

that their overbearing brother, who I love so much, Hi Daniel, sent them for the speech, which were really funny, and it was like, avoid inside jokes, keep it relatively, and they did a great job. But I do think that's true. You don't wanna be be like too tech space. I think if it's like a pretty well known movie or if you want to do like one quote or like

one reference and like build from there, I think that's nice. It's a shared thing that you all guys, that you guys all have, but like, you know, don't be like reenacting my best friend's wedding or whatever, you know, on a number of levels, don't be reenacting my best friend's wedding or whatever. You know, on a number of levels, don't be reenacting my best friend's wedding. Agreed, agreed. I... Though ultimately, she gives a really good speech, which is like, you guys don't have a song,

so this one's on loan, and it's short and to the point, and then they do the, uh, they do the dance. Yeah, my brother at my wedding, in part, sang Leather and Lace. Okay. I think as an homage to Will Ferrell's performance of Leather and Lace. Great.

And it was beautiful, him and his best friend Steve, who played acoustic guitar. Okay. It was not beautiful, but it was very fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was kind of sort of an acknowledgement of an inside joke slash our shared love of Will Ferrell's Slash right something everyone could enjoy. Yes. So I think you need to have a universality to what you're doing

I agree. I think if you like want to Do Ezekiel 2517 from Pulp Fiction. I don't think that's gonna go well. I Wouldn't I wouldn't recommend it if it's really important to the bride and groom. Like if Pulp Fiction is their favorite movie of all time, maybe just sprinkle in some, you know, they speak English and what? You know, like stuff like that. Maybe people would appreciate that. In general, I think movie quotes are for dorm rooms, you know, like they're not in podcasts. Yeah. And or the ceremony. We had readings for movies at my that's that's fine. But um,

Yeah, I think for these speeches like funny anecdotes about the people and you got to pick the right one nothing too embarrassing but um Speeches are tough. I haven't given you a while. You have a very nice one at ours. Thanks. I had a run there Yeah, when I was in my 30s, where I was given a lot of speeches and I've been de-speechified. Okay. How about one for Amanda? Good luck. Pretty, you know, I'm jealous. Love a wedding. Love a wedding dance floor. I'm way out of rotation on weddings now. Way out of rotation. I mean, I had my one over Memorial Day. And when the Pink Pony Club hit,

I just absolutely lost my mind. I was so happy. And then I had to take the early bus home to fly home to my children. But for three minutes- Moms love Chapel Rhone. They just love Chapel Rhone. But can I tell you something?

It was like, it spanned generations. Like all the- All the coolest people. The 25 year old cousins were there. The 30 year old cousins were there. The 30 year old cousins were there. Old mom was there. And then I sprinted to the early bus. When I was in my early thirties,

I was working at Grayland and it was like a very hard, very intense time of work. And I skipped like probably 10 weddings in that time. Cause I was like, I can't travel, I'm too busy. Huge mistake. My other piece of advice, go to all the weddings. Like you'll figure it out. You'll figure it out with work.

You'll figure it out financially. Those are times that cannot be taken from you if you pursue them. There's nothing like it. You can't recreate it in any other phase of life. Okay. Love a wedding. Brian writes, dear Amanda, Can I base a romantic relationship off a mutual passion for cinema?

I, 24 year old male John, recently reconnected with an old high school classmate, 23 year old female Sarah. She knew I was interested in film and wanted to catch up. We started to see each other casually, watching foreign films at the cinema and hanging out a few times a month. After going to the new Wes Anderson, we went on a walk. I was very prepared to discuss how the Phoenician scheme fits into Wes Anderson's

film canon. What I was not prepared to talk about, however, was the future of our relationship. After a brief unpacking of the movie, Sarah told me how she thought what we had was special and that she loved spending time with me. I really didn't think that was where the conversation would go. And I kind of panicked. I said I said cool and avoided eye contact for about 30 seconds. I said I thought she was great and that I appreciated how open and vulnerable she was. But regarding our future, I was in quote kind of a weird place. I don't know how much we have besides our passion for movies. I don't know if we'd hang out without it.

Am I leading her on? Should I keep seeing her and see if my feelings change? Is this enough to base our relationship on? I don't want to be an emotionally unavailable film bro. Am I? Yes. Um, okay, listen, listen, listen. Early 20s are hard and when someone is being vulnerable,

emotionally vulnerable, you know, I understand the panic, okay? Like I understand in the moment you don't know what to say, you don't know what to do, moment you don't know what to say, you don't know what to do, and you don't know how to respond. Many great, you know, dramatic moments in film are based on this, on not saying the right thing in the right moment. So that's okay.

Listen, we live, we learn, we make mistakes. I would have liked you to be a little more prepared, but it's okay. Like, I, you know, I do think that a mutual interest in something and liking spending time with someone But it's okay. I do think that a mutual interest in something and liking spending time with someone is like a pretty good foundation for any sort of relationship. If the spark isn't there, the spark is not there.

But are you sure the spark isn't there? That is kind of what I'm saying. It seems like you were taken a little aback. I don't, I think that cutting her off and ghosting is like a really stupid way to live life. Is what I would think, is what I would say. If you have someone who you like spending time with and you have a shared interest.

Let me just give you like a very caveman response. Yeah, the spark's not there, so you're not gonna do it. Is Brian into this girl? Right. He's 24. Yeah. He doesn't have to pursue a relationship with somebody he doesn't feel it for.

I think that's true, but he's like, should I just like- There's plenty of people out there who like movies. He's like, should I run for the hills? And I think that kind of sucks. Do you think that Sarah reconnected with John and used movies as a way to get closer to him because she wanted to be with him?

Or is she a real head? Is she like, I also will explore the themes of the Phoenician scheme. Excuse me, why does it have to be one or the other? I'm just asking a question. Why can't she be interested in movies? Well, she can be. I mean, here's the thing.

And is this another Sex and the City thing or is this just something that someone said in life? It's like, and this will have to take us back to a time when there were calves, which I don't think Brian or John or Sarah or anyone remembers. But so the way that calves worked before Uber is that they would drive around and if it was available, the light would be on. And if it was taken or off duty, the light would be off.

And, you know, I do think this applies especially to men, you know, either like the lights on or the lights off and it seems like John here, the lights off, you know, and so, and that's on him. And if his light is not on, then I guess he just needs to be upfront about it and move on. Um, but as a, as the woman in this situation, you just kind of have to cast around and be like, well, is the light on today or not with this person?

So much of it is timing. As you know. This is so interesting to me though, because I just, I was never in this life. I know. You know, I never really had any experiences like this. I never, like, the light is on. What the fuck does that? I was never looking.

You know, very famously, like, I don't think that Zach and I would be married if you and Chris hadn't moved. Because there was this thing where, like, Zach and I met, when Sean and Chris still lived in New York, and then you guys moved to LA like pretty soon thereafter to start Grantland or to be a part of Grantland.

And so then Zach was like, I don't have any friends so I guess I could date you now, which is like, he says it's different. He didn't say that. Yeah, but, but. Some time freed up, that's okay. He was like, you know, it was just kind of like, well, I guess. He was more available. Right, it was just kind of like, well, I guess. He was more available.

Right, it was like, now a different phase in my life starts. Yeah. You know, a different light is on. Zach and I were together like three to four days a week at that time. No, I remember. We were together a lot. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's, which is kind of the same thing. It's like, he was like not really in his place until he's not. His light went on. And so maybe it's not that. And you were the fair. I guess so, yeah. And you've been on a ride ever since.

Here we go. What's the fee at this point? How long you've been driving around for 15 years? Forever, yeah. It's maybe not that you're emotionally unavailable. Maybe it's just that your light is not on. But I guess in that case, are you leading her on? I don't know. I like, maybe a little, but if you can be upfront about it, I also don't think that

you should totally close yourself off. But if you're not into it, you're not into it. And I guess you should be upfront about that, you know. Because people can be friends and like movies too. I think if you're a real cinephile and you're attracted to this person, and this person also is like, I like to spend my free time doing this, gotta give it a shot. I agree.

If you're not attracted to the person, don't. That makes no sense. But in general, I also do think that more young cinephiles should be using rep culture and letterbox culture to get together. I think like the number one missed opportunity at all the rep theaters is Singles Nights.

Like, let's go. I like, I wanna hear the stories. I think it's a perfect place to meet someone. I don't know why we don't like- Well, there's not a lot of talking involved. Well, let's facilitate that. You know, they all have bars. So you wanna do like Mixer Night at Viddiots? Yes. Okay, and you wanna that. You know, they all have bars. So you want to do like mixer night at Biddy It's?

Yes. Okay, and you want to be... I think that this is... You want to be the Lucy, the Dakota Johnson of this space. No, in no way. Materialist two, rep screenings. Will my hair look like that? Will the rest of me look like that?

That I would accept. Otherwise, no. But I do think, I think that like a shared interest is a great foundation for something. But you're right, like if you're not into it, you're not into it. There's so much good chat on the YouTube stream. People agree with us or no?

I think a lot of people were deeply wounded by that message that Brian shared. They were just like, what is this guy's problem? Well, sure, yeah. I mean, because a lot of people have been like 23 and out there. A lot of, oh no, 23 and out there. A lot of oh no yikes cool. Yeah that's it's really it's really really tough to be dating and to be single in your 20s. Oh I'm getting a question what hair products do you use? You? Yeah. Yeah what is the Japanese teak we've talked about this yeah lavender teak. yeah, yeah. But he's got good hair, you know? It's like,

that is, it is one of his gifts. Beloved New York Mets SNY director John DiMarsico is in the chat. Hi, John. John, I'm familiar with your work even though I don't, it's mostly on Twitter that I'm following it. John obviously has emerged as genuinely a legend. Yeah, absolute legend. It's very cute that everyone else has been on the broadcast. I'd love to go see a Mets game at some point. This is his question. Hi, how do we get Amanda to a Mets game? I mean, I-

I hear all the cool kids are doing it. Jack was just in Colorado. We saw wags on television in New York. I was on television in Los Angeles when the Mets were in town for the Dodgers. When are you getting on the big screen? I would love to come to a Mets game. I will be in New York in August.

The thing is, October, that's playoff season. I believe in you guys, but it's like a hot ticket. I can't be like, please. It is a hot ticket. Get me in for this. I mean, I'll be going. I'll be there. Actually, I did not go.

I told you this. When I was in town for the New York Film Festival You know, actually I did not go. I told you this, like when I was in town for the New York Film Festival last year, the Mets were playing the Brewers and I was just incredibly nervous for every single game. And so I didn't go to any games. I just sat quietly in a hotel room, like near tears, hoping that they would win.

And they did win that series. But I love going to baseball games. I recently went to Fenway for the first time, saw a Dobbins start, which was incredible. I really hope that we get to go to a Cubs game when we're in Chicago. That's our plan. Yeah, you guys did not respond for 24 hours.

I was detained on Saturday. I basically have to, I guess I just have to schedule a meeting with the two of you to get you to sit down and actually make plans. I know, but it's also, you won't plan unless I... Chris Ryan and I are saying? Yes, unless I just hold eye contact. You and Chris make plans and I'll roll with it. That's my whole thing Okay, but will you be gracious about it always? I'm a gem of a human

Let's go back into the chat. What do we see here? Hmm? Guys no offense, but I'm not answering any questions about blu-ray players today. Yeah Hey Sean fellow tell youruride goer here. This year will be my sixth trip to the mountain. My question's for you. What's your favorite Telluride memory? What's your favorite screening experience? Very easy.

Very early in my first trip to Telluride in 2019, I saw Uncut Gems and roughly half the audience was either mad or walked out because they were 68 year old men and women and they hated the movie. But those of us who stayed were treated to a joy. And that was like an interesting indicator of what my time there would be.

That's a very quick one to that. I'm, you have to go to Telluride at some point. Before we're done doing this show. Hold on, we got one from Michael in the dock. I just discovered I'm gonna be in Venice during the Venice Film Festival. Can you share any favorite spots you found during your trip? Hey Michael, me too.

Accreditation came through this morning. Oh, great. I know, which, you know, I was gonna be pretty mad if it didn't, but anyway. My favorite spots. So, I don't, I mean, I don't really have any. I like to stay in Dorsoduro, which is like very close to, so not on the Lido, because I can't afford the Lido.

And this is the thing, people who go to Venice for the Biennale, that anything but cinema will tell you to stay on the Lido, which is like a separate island, and then commute like back and forth to events. But when the festival is on the Lido, it's kind of all booked up. And so you got to take the shuttle.

But the shuttle's pretty easy from San Marco. And I don't know. Like, everywhere has Negronis. It's all pretty great. I went to, I think Daivo is the name of the George Clooney restaurant. Yeah, that's right. George Clooney owns a restaurant in Venice? No, no, no, but he likes it. And he's like regularly photographed there.

Can we do a brief rundown of what movies people think are going to Venice? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because there's an unusual number of US titles. like regularly photographed there. Can we do a brief rundown of what movies people think are going to Venice? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because there's an unusual number of US titles that are slotted for Venice potentially this year. Those movies include After the Hunt, Lucas, the next film, maybe One Battle After Another.

I don't think it's going to happen. I know you don't think it's going to happen. I mean, we're arguing about it. I think there is a case because I know the general thing is like you don't want it's gonna happen. I mean, we're arguing about it. I think... There is a case, because I know the general thing is, like, you don't want to premiere at a festival, have bad reviews, and then have it just, like, sit there. But it's really only two weeks between Venice and the scheduled release date of one battle after another.

So, in that sense, don't you want... It's like a month. It's like a month. It's September 26th. Yeah. And that's right. I guess you would want them to be opening night, which would be like August 27th. I know, but Leo on the red carpet, like don't you think, you know, full glitz and glamor? Something crazy is going on where I told you this,

like they did more test screenings of the movie and I've got like legitimately five or six people in my DMs, like sending plot details and stuff in the movie. Do not send me any information about that, please. Okay, one battle after another. Catherine Bigelow's White House thriller for Netflix possibly.

Jay Kelly. I'm hoping for a, I mean, Netflix often goes to Venice because they're welcome. I would guess that that would be Venice and Telluride. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Noah will play movies there too. Cotts stealing the Aronofsky movie, which I don't think looks very good personally,

but Pogonia, the New Yorkers movie. He usually premieres his movies at Venice. Smashing Machine, Benny Safdie's next movie with The Rock. Father Mother Brother Sister, Jim Jarmusch's movie. Benny, invite me to your party. Benny, I know you're out there. Thank you. Ballad of a Small Player, Colin Farrell playing poker in Macau. Great. Edward Berger's new movie. Hamnet, Chloe Zhao's adaptation. I know I'm stressed out about that, but that also makes sense.

Frankenstein from Guillermo del Toro. Will you watch it? Of course. Okay. Roof Man? I watched Pinocchio. Child Papa, Neil Papa. Here's my other thing about Venice.

And I did just say, I like, I love- There's a bunch more. Yeah, Benny Safdie, I'd love to come to your party. But one tip is like, you know, Venice is a series of tiny islands. Um, you don't want to go to a party where you just like are stuck on a random island at 11 o'clock at night in Venice. So for the most part, I would say skip the parties unless you have like a certified ride home, because then you're just like walking around being like, do

I have to swim home? That's my note. Okay. home because then you're just like walking around being like, do I have to swim home? Mm-hmm. That's my note. OK. Introducing TurboTax Business, a brand new way to file your own T2 return all while getting help from an expert who actually knows small businesses. Got a tattoo studio, toy store, tiny but mighty taco stand? We've got someone who gets small business taxes inside and out.

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This question is for you both. What are your must have baby products and which ones did question? Right, my wife and I are expecting our first baby. This question is for you both. What are your must have baby products and which ones did you buy only to not end up using? What do you got? I mean, noise machine, obviously. I use a hatch. Yeah, oh, you do, yeah. We use- I'm losing my voice.

We use the therapist one. What's the therapist one? You know, like the white, like standard issue. Oh, that's right, You're afraid of therapy. But so those of you, those of you who have found healing will recognize the white voice. I don't know what that is. I literally don't know what it is. It's just like the white machine that's sort of octa, you know.

But what does it have to do with therapy? All therapists use it. To do what? To block out the noise in the lobby so you don't have to worry about being overheard. Yeah. So to create like a safe... Oh, like they'll play a noise machine during your session? Outside in the lobby where other people are waiting. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Um, gosh, I don't know. Definitely a noise machine. Yeah. I really like the Nanit. The monitor is really effective. I still use it to this day. Yeah. We are

addicted to our phones so we opted to not have the monitor on really effective. I still use it to this day, which is very helpful. We are addicted to our phones, so we opted to not have the monitor on the phone. We just have the old school one. You can hold the camera. Yeah, you can hold the camera. Hold the monitor. And with Si, we did upgrade to a split screen, so we can have them both on one.

Very fancy. It's really loud though, and the technology's not great. But I, you know, whatever, a monitor, I guess, according to your needs. One of the carriers. We never really used them. You didn't? No.

We used it a ton. I think that we use Ergobaby. Okay. Thank you to Sarah and Dan, who are probably listening and gave it to us. Let's see. Stroller. Gotta have two. Well, okay. Travel stroller and regular house stroller.

You do have to have this travel stroller. And this is a little, this is like driving culture specific. If you live in New York, your stroller needs are gonna be different. The first thing I'll say is that stroller are insanely expensive. So Facebook marketplace, like ask around for friends,

see what you can do, you know, reuse or whatever. I swear by YoYo Baby Zen. This is like my number one thing that I'm the most passionate about. It folds up. So, and so you can fit it in a travel, like an overhead compartment on an airplane. But also it's like very easy to just store in your car and, you know,

unfold when you need it's, um, it moves well. And then for a newborn, you get the car seat adapter. And so you can just go like bloop and take the, the car seat out and put it in the stroller. So it'll last you from, you know, newborn all the way to, I mean, we still use it. And for both kids now at this point, they kind of fight over it. You know what the biggest, the biggest game changer was for us was sleep sack.

Sleep sack or Merlin's sleep suit. We did use a Merlin. You liked the Merlin. And it was good, but it was short lived. It worked for a minute and it got her to sleep. But the kite sleep sack was legit. That was in our life it was short-lived. It worked for a minute and it got her to sleep, but the kite sleep sack was legit. That was in our life for a long ass time. Oh, ours are, Noc's still... Your child's still napping.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he also sleeps in it at night. No, way past that. Yeah, and then he walks around in it and then I'm like, oh God, you're gonna die. It's pretty dangerous. Two kids in kite sleep suits. Okay, here's a very

normal one from a normal guy. Hey guys, my stats. 5'9", 195, bench 205. Pickup game comp is a short and unskilled Kurt Thomas. Shout out to TCU. First, I just want to say that I 1 million percent co-sign the recurring Dobbins hot takes around preventative dentistry. That field is largely a sham and just a sales funnel for unnecessary wallet biopsies. For what it's worth, I am a physician with some expertise in evidence-based medicine and scientific literature interpretation. This is my guy. This is very very very sus so far. Here is my question. The Rosilla Life Advice emails always begin with a semi scripted set of personal details from the authors. What would the big picks version of those be for your listener submitted

mailbags? Number of movies logged on Letterbox, top four movies all time, duration of time you can hold up five pound weights. What do you think? Was it five? I thought it was three. Yeah, honestly don't remember. Zach recently did one of my workouts at home and got cooked by it. And then was like, I was thinking of like Sean's like insane, you know, you just like, you don't know how hard it is until, you know, and you're durationally holding out the weights. I've been doing more heavy weights though.

Congrats. Thanks so much. I mean, I'm cycling it in. Oh, awesome. Sure. So that, that seems good. Okay. How the minute count for how long you can hold out?

Yeah. That seems good. Okay. How did the minute count for how long you can hold out? Yeah, or just, you know, maybe kind of where you are in your macro journey would be a helpful thing to learn. Okay. Okay. Letterboxd Top Four seems good. That seems like a nice one. I think we probably should need to know age

just for generational purposes. I agree. Not to be ageist But you know we want to meet you where you are Let's see anything else you need to know um I think like a Very weird personal anecdote at the top of these is always meaningful. That's the best way to get our attention Yes, just be like you know I woke up in a cold sweat one morning, and I realized I haven't seen materialists yet And I need to see it so I can be part of the Marxist revolution.

Okay, let me see what else we can do. Let's look in the chat and see what people are saying if they're being normal. How do I handle a friend who doesn't like film centered around quote bad people? Example, she doesn't like Dastin confused because the characters were degenerates. Do I even stay friends with this person? This is what Kayden asks us. Interesting question, because this comes up a lot now in movie discourse. Yeah, and it is sort of like a generational way

of reading things. I mean, so there are two parts of this. There's how do you handle the friend, and do you stay friends with the friend? How do you handle the friend? I think speak your own truth, like, loudly and as respectfully as you can. But as we've proven, you don't always have to be that respectful. I don't know.

Like, I guess people can watch movies however they want to watch them, but they don't have to be right. And you can watch movies how you want and, and, and do your thing. And there is something to be said for like being able to talk about movies with someone else, even though I would also find that point of view like slightly infuriating, but you know, live and let live. Should you stay friends with the person?

I think that this would be a pretty severe reason for breaking up a friendship. That's just where I am. I think it's an indication of a lack of sophistication. If you feel uncomfortable with art because it shows behavior that you don't agree with, you're simple minded. I mean, I think that's true, but it's like every question here, and we've gotten a lot of questions about how to negotiate various relationships,

relating to or not relating to movies. And if you start cutting everyone out for, like, every minor, or, you know, or every transgression, you're not gonna have any friends, you know? It's like, nobody's gonna last. It's not about minor transgressions. It's about if you're a movie fan, it's a little hard to understand movies if you reject them because of the behaviors exhibited in the movies.

As you get older. And like we had another like I thought a very lovely question about making friends in your in your 20s and how hard it is. And it's like really hard. Your 20s are hard in general, you're just expected to like, like start a new life all by yourself and know exactly what you know, I like I'm very sympathetic to all of you. You're going expected to like, like start a new life all by yourself and know exactly what, you know, I like, I'm very sympathetic to all of you. It's like very difficult. You're going full YouTuber now. Wow.

What? That was just, you just turned into Emma Chamberlain. Oh my goodness. I actually have never seen Emma Chamberlain. I mean, I like, I've seen stills, but I don't know what she's like. Anyway, being in your twenties is hard. So I get it.

And the friendship thing is hard, even as you're an adult. It's okay, it's not that hard. I mean, it was- Stop being, stop being as you're an adult. It's okay, it's not that hard. I mean, it was- Stop being a man, okay? Like just no one, yeah. It was hard being broke.

That was really hard. It was hard being broke. I have empathy for that. You also- In your 20s, you're like, you're fit. You know, you can stay up all night. You can go explore the world. Like, you know, it's like, it's not that-

You married your high school sweetheart. You just like were not going through any of it. But is it hard just because of not having a relationship? Of course, because then you don't, well, it's not just that. The society is broken. It's not just that, but it's like you had a fixed point around which you were like building your life, you know? And everybody else is just out there being like,

I don't know, like, I guess where should I live? What should I do? Who should I be friends with? How should I think about the world? Sure. Like what are all like, I have all those things too. What time should I wake up in the morning? You know, it's all like, what should I, friends with? How should I think about the world? Like what are all like, what time should I wake up in the morning?

You know, it's all like, what should I, I don't know. So like you go from a world like with lots of rules, no rules at all. So I think I have, I am empathetic. Weirdly empathetic point of view from you. Uncommonly empathetic for people in their 20s. I still think people in their 20s are like pretty stupid, but like, you know, that's because they haven't lived.

The truth is, I just think everybody catastrophizes the generation that they're in, the era are like pretty stupid, but like, you know, that's because they haven't lived. Anyway. I just think everybody catastrophizes the generation that they're in, the era that they're in, no matter what. So no matter how old you are, when you're 12, you're like, why can't I be older and get what I want? When you're in your 20s, you're like, why can't I have the things the way that I want to have them? When you're in your 30s, you're like,

oh, I can feel things slipping away from me. Is my life really what I want it to be? When you're in your 40s, you're like, well, I made my choices and I'm stuck. When you're in your 50s, you're like, God, I wish I had done things differently when I was in my 20s. When you're in your 60s, you're like, wow, I have cancer. When you're in your 40s, you're like, well, I made my choices and I'm stuck. When you're in your 50s, you're like, God, I wish I had done things differently when I was in my 20s. When you're in your 60s, you're like, wow, I have cancer. When you're in your 70s, you're like, I beat cancer, but shit, I'm in my 70s. When you're in your 80s,

you're like, I can't even remember anything. When you're 90s, you die. I mean, that's true. Nobody is ever happy. I'm honestly kind of thriving. I mean, the world's going to shit and I'm like really upset about that all the time. But like, aside from, you know, the flyaways and everything, like I'm doing pretty good. So what I would say to you is that there is light at the end of the tunnel and that your twenties like are a little weird. In terms of the friends thing, something like, you're not going to find that many people who can like be

your friends for everything, who check all of the boxes. Agreed. Agreed. So maybe this person isn't your letterbox friend. Maybe this person is really fun to watch a baseball game with or go out with. Or I don't know, what do you like to do?

But it's friend stuff. You're just trying to come up with hobbies? I don't know. Other friend stuff besides agreeing on friend stuff. You're just trying to come up with hobbies? I don't know. Like, other friend stuff besides, like, agreeing on the... You're really into macrame, you know? You like cycling. Do you know about macrame? Of course. I didn't know that.

Come on. Well, it's always interesting what you know and don't know. It is interesting. Well, my knowledge is so vast, so thank you for saying that. Anyway, so this person is maybe not your... You guys aren't going to't gonna like vibe on movies, but there are other things in life. What? People in the chat are great. They're just like,

I'm about to be 50 and my life is shit. Ha ha ha. I'm sorry, Nick. I'm sorry that's true. If it is true. Uh, I'm glad that you're thriving. I'm, I'm sorry that people can't make friends. I don't know what to say about that. Like, I don't know. That isn't the purpose of this show. Like, how can't make friends. I don't know what to say about that. Like, I don't know. Just like, that isn't the purpose of this show.

Like, how do I make friends? You said life advice. It's really hard. I told this story before. And you liked friendship for the exact, this is, you know, it's under examined. It is actually hard for all of you to connect. The under examined part of it is that there are men out there

who are looking for friends who might murder you. Like, you have to be careful of those guys, because they exist. But my thing, like I did a very modern version of friendship when I moved to New York, which is that I sought people out with like-minded interest and I literally just cold emailed them. I've told this before, but I cold emailed Chris Ryan

and I was like, hey man, I think, I don't even know, Zach and I met through mutual mutual friends and we sort of like formed a group of people who were all into the same stuff. But honestly, I think cold emailing somebody every once in a while, it's not as safe and normal as it used to be. I think that's kind of psychotic, personally.

Really? Yeah, I've never done that in my life. You've never cold emailed anybody that you liked something that they wrote or that they did or? Absolutely not. Really? You know me, but you know me.

I'm absolutely not. Well, because are you afraid of being rejected? Like, what was your concern? Uh, no, there's a level of vulnerability there that is just not willing to put out. You're so weird. You're like talking all about like, you and the baby sleeping and whatnot on a podcast in front of like hundreds of thousands of people.

No, I think that you're overestimating what's possible at 9.30 in the morning on YouTube. But, um. No, I mean in general on the pod. But, um... No, I mean, in general, on the pod. But still, like, you wouldn't email someone who you admired and say, like, I really like what you did here? Well, as you know, I don't like to actually meet heroes. So no, I definitely wouldn't do that.

You're really weird. God. No, I, but I prefer just to... Why are we even in it? Like, what is it even for? I, like, I'm the exact opposite. Matt, Bellamy, and Craig were talking about this on a recent episode of The Town, where Craig did not introduce himself to Anna DeArmas

at the premiere of Ballerina. And Matt Bellamy was like, why not? Don't you want to make contacts? And Craig was like, not with Anna DeArmas at the premiere of Ballerina, which I love Matt Bellamy, but like Team Craig on that. You know what I'm saying? That's a little different for me.

It's not quite the same as, you know, I met Quentin Tarantino. Like, Honored Armist doesn't really... I love meeting Quentin Tarantino, but I didn't email him. You know, you got to, you know, you guys are buds, and then he came in. But like, Honored Armist is, that's not Craig's hero. That's a woman that, at least jokingly, Craig is very attracted to.

Sure. So I don't quite see the connection there. But I think, I mean, that speaks to how Matt operates. Yeah. Matt is just like, hello, I'm Matt. Right. And that's how you become, like, an incredibly well-sourced reporter.

That's true. Uh, hmm. Cold email. That's weird. I'd like to thank jYK000 for noting, Sean constantly deriding Amanda for being confused by his insane takes is what will fix this country. Thank you for understanding this pod very deeply. Let's see what other questions we can get in here.

I've been considering having regular rep screenings of movies at my house for close friends. Any tips for home screenings or hosting in general? I mean, you host parties. You're home screening. You know, what's your, your setup. Yeah, it's kind of, it's boring. You know, it's a large television. It's not a projector. You know, it's not, there's not surround sound audio in there. That's a, that's a future project. I'll get there. You do have like lighting control.

I do have lighting control. We could really work on that at my house, but window treatments are hard. You know? Yeah, California in particular, the sunniest of states. I like the sunlight, you know? So I wanna let it in most of the time, except for when I'm watching films.

Yeah, that is a big challenge. Hosting tips. I mean, it goes back to the deodorant, the smelly people question, you know, which is like, you want to set things up in advance. You know, you can kind of guide people to the most natural place.

You know, you can kind of set up the seating ahead of time, have the snacks ready so that people kind of know where they're supposed to go. That takes some of the anxiety out. Okay. I mean, you know. I have another pertinent question for you. It's sort're supposed to go. That takes some of the anxiety out. I mean, you know. I have another pertinent question for you. It's sort of related to decor.

This question comes from Tyler Parker. Oh, hi Tyler! From The Ringer, our buddy. Is Tyler watching right now? I hope so. I just saw Tyler last week. One of the best out. I haven't seen him in a long time,

even though we live incredibly close to each other. Me too. Tyler asks, Amanda, why aren't books smaller? I don't mean shorter. Right. I mean smaller. Most books should fit in a back pocket. Oh, Jacob Elordi style.

This is a big thing. You know about this? Where Jacob Elordi is like, he's doing the like the boy version of being paparazzi with a book, but he's always he's either carrying a battega vanetta bag or he's got like a, you know, on the road in his back pocket or whatever. I am sorry, it works for me. It's just, you know, sometimes we have to-

You're such an easy mark. We have to be honest, you know? Sometimes the most obvious thing works. I think it probably has to do with, you know, font size, Tyler, you know? It's like, if it's that small and is of length and it's not a collection of short stories and Tyler, you know where I stand on short stories and it's write a novel, you coward.

Tyler did write a novel. Tyler did write a wonderful novel. Yeah, Blood and Dancing, great book. Yeah, available wherever books are sold. So I mean, I think that's mainly the issue, you know? It's just also, the other day we were trying to fix our printer at home. And I had like real respect for the invention of the printing press, you know, like they always talk about, you know, like in when you're learning history, they're like, this changed the world because suddenly like literature is available

to the masses. And I do get that on like a sociological and intellectual level, but also like it is 700 years later and like we still can't really print that easily. You know, it's just like something's always wrong with the printer. So from a technological perspective, I like, I really salute them for figuring that out. And I don't think your HP inkjet at home is quite the same as what Gutenberg was up to. It's a brother or something. But like, the first problem, the general, the general problem that we're solving and that Tyler's asking about is remains the same, which is like, why is it so hard to turn ideas of the mind into something, you know, tangible that we can hold. And, you know... I'm getting more into audiobooks,

gotta be honest. I started listening. Can you, I cannot do it. And it's like, I cannot focus on them. Like in the car? Like my mind starts wandering immediately. No, it's pretty easy for me. Okay, congratulations.

I just started re-listening to a Robert Altman biography that I love. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Okay, let's see what, Omji just started this. I'm Kristen a Robert Altman biography that I love. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Okay, let's see what an OMG just started this. I'm Kristen. Amanda just wished me a happy birthday. You made my whole year.

Hi, Kristen! Hi, Amanda. You've convinced me not to do retinol. This is the advice I was looking for. There we go. It works! Yeah, there we go. This program works!

Whatever works for you. Hmm. What else? What else can we get from the chat? Everyone is just very spirited here. Okay. There's more people watching now than there was an hour ago, so that's pretty good. Let's do like maybe 15 or 20 minutes more. How do you feel?

That seems great. I don't have the chat open. Should I like be in the comments or do you just want to be in the... No, but now it's going fucking crazy. A lot of people asking about what snacks should I put in my golf bag for banded dunes where I played golf. Oh, this is so... Like it's really... I've seen at least five banded questions. The other? Can I share one banded tip? I'm sure your husband made you aware of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen at least five bandin questions. The other? Can I share one bandin tip?

I'm sure your husband made you aware of this. They sell something at the courses called protein golf balls. They come in a sleeve like three golf balls would come, and they are these odd protein balls that are like peanut butter, oats, hemp hearts, and a number of other ingredients that I can't recall. And you eat them and they give you,

you power up, you Dragon Ball Z, bang! And then you can hit the ball 300 yards. And I ate roughly 15 of those over three days. But you're not doing that in your home life? I do eat protein bars sometimes, yeah. You eat protein bars, but do you, like the protein ball, like the homemade protein ball is like a very, again, we'll get you on this internet.

But I think Chris eats them a lot. You know, I think you buy them for like $45 at Pop It Air. You seem very confused by that particular thing when we were there. We were all, it was quite novel to us. Oh, okay. Again, but I would think that his Instagram reels

are showing a lot of, like the protein balls are big, like here's what I make as a something, you know, Instagram real topic. There are a lot of recipes out there. So a flood of golf questions have just hit the chat. I regret to inform you one day after the US opened. The number of granola bars that Zach packs for a golf trip is like pretty sad to me.

Okay, pretty sad? Yeah, I don't believe in granola bars or protein bars. Honestly, you're like, you're so fucked up. Like you are so... I know I'm the weird, crazy one. You are fucking... That's insane. I just, I prefer not to eat them. I like to eat, you know, real food. I like to have a meal. I don't want to waste my calories and my sugars that way. But I- The chat is so good. Rango goes hard.

Thank you, Calvin Coffee, for identifying that. Protein is very important. Yeah, I know. Granola bars are very important. I like a Clif bar on the golf course. Yeah. I mean, that's my go-to. That's my go-to as well.

The other day at the swim club, I was getting lunch for my family and a man came in before he went out to the golf course. He was like, I'm going to go to the golf course. I'm going to go to the golf course. I'm going my go to. The other day at the swim club, a man, I was getting lunch for my family and a man came in before he went out to the golf course and said, I would like six beers and a soup, please. And... A soup? Yeah.

And I was like, that guy's kind of a legend. Hot or cold? I mean, I don't really think that they're serving like gazpacho. What are we talking about? Chicken, barley rice, you know? Yeah, they didn't specify the soup. New England clam gazpacho. What are we talking about? Chicken, barley rice? They didn't specify the soup. New England clam chowder?

It was 11.15 in the morning. Okay. So. Pretty gross. Six beers and a soup. Damn. Dudes are asking me, what did you pick up at Waterloo in Austin? Did somebody spot like clock me at Waterloo in Austin?

Maybe. What's Waterloo? This is actually quite scary. It's a record store and an incredible, incredible Blu-ray selection. There are lots of international stuff. One thing I did get was Bloody Sunday, the Paul Greengrass film. I think from imprint, which was really, really good. A lot of interesting questions here.

How tall is CR? He's seven foot six. Oh, sorry. Didn't mute it. I tried to open the chat. That's me. Top three soups. They want to know.

Top three soups. Go. Top three soups. Oh gosh. I mean mean a chili of some sort. Are we counting that? Is that a stew? Sure. I'll allow it. I like a lentil soup. Red lentil, but I'll go with any of them. Tortilla soup? I don't know. I'm just naming the soups. Tortilla soup number one for me. Chicken noodle, no? It's just, I didn't grow up with it. So I see.

I did. We didn't really do soup. You know what is elite is it just a matzo ball soup from the New York diners? Like my favorite thing in the universe. Yeah, I think that's another thing that we just didn't. I see. Yeah. Classic Atlanta.

Favorite movie theater in Sweden? Don't know. Never been to one. For Pride Month, please name some more actresses you would wife up as a straight woman. Thanks so much. I mean, Rachel Weiss, number one for me, Haley Atwell, Adele Hanell, right off the top.

Who else? I mean, you know. You're naming women that kind of look like you. It's a little weird. That's okay. I mean, that's fine. That's nice, I weird. That's okay. I mean, that's fine. That's nice. I accept.

That's great. I mean, those are like the kind of like three operating as my like wives in my mind at all times. But you know, there are a lot of beautiful women out there. Celebrate Pride Month. Yeah. All month. Great queer sighted program

on the Criterion channel right now, highly recommend that. All the movies in that package are super good. Okay, hmm. Do Sean for male actors now. Okay. Yeah. Idris Elba.

Oh, good one, okay. I just saw him in 28 Weeks Later, the second film in that series. Yeah, yeah, I'm doing the rewatch next week. And he has like no role whatsoever in the film, but he looks very handsome. Young Edward Norton. Yeah, again, that's a little bit like you, David. Keeping the Faith era, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was very aspirational. We didn't talk about keeping the faith on the 2000 draft. Was that 2000? Yeah, it was one of the weirdest movies I've ever seen. I really don't like that movie. Yeah, I'm not a weirdest movies I've ever seen that I saw in theaters. Gosh, I mean Sam Rockwell, big fan of his. Oh, nice.

Great dancer. I just wouldn't want to be around him. I feel like he's just a good time. Every time I see Leslie Bibbs, she's so happy. She's like, I can't believe I'm with Sam Rockwell. That's always a good sign. I don't know. There's probably some others.

Any hints on the Chicago Surprise movie? No. Okay. No hints. Oh, wow. We are exploring special guests for both live shows in Chicago. Hey, thank you to everyone who bought tickets.

They sold out very fast for both events. Yeah, we're very excited. We hope to give you a good show. Jack Sanders will be there, of course. CR will be at our live show at Steppenwolf. Yes. And we're trying to go to a Cubs game, as you said. I'm really excited.

Do we know anyone at the Cubs? You want to throw out the first pitch? Still the general manager of the Cubs? Jack, yes or no? I honestly don't know. Cubs are looking pretty good this year. Are they? Yeah.

Okay. They traded for Kyle Tucker in the offseason. That's going very well. They of course have Pete Crow Armstrong, who was a M? Yeah. Okay. They traded for Kyle Tucker in the off season. That's going very well. They of course have Pete Crow Armstrong, who was a Mets prospect that the Mets traded for two months of Javi Baez, which makes me want to drown myself in a lake every day because he would be the center fielder that is missing from this Mets lineup.

Anyway, that's the entire Mets discussion. Live show tour when? I don't know. We have children. We're probably not going to do a real tour. We're going to do more live stuff over the course. Hopefully we'll do something in New York in the fall. I'm hoping for that as well.

We're discussing doing that. And I do also want to do some 25 for 25 stuff here. Yes. In LA. In the winter maybe. Maybe we can do a bigger one near the end of the list. Maybe at Vidiots or somewhere else. Tips on how to avoid procrastinating writing

and getting in the zone. It's funny this comes up. I don't really write anymore. You don't really write anymore. I hated it. I remember you hating it when I met you, whenever that was, 15 years ago. I absolutely loathed it.

And then I moved in with Zach and I was like, oh, this is what, like an actual, someone who likes writing. Yes. And who can, I mean, he's my favorite writer and he is very disciplined, but there was also just like, he doesn't live in fear of it. I, when I was writing a lot, was just drinking a lot. That's just the truth.

The truth is that, and I'm not saying one should do this, but for me, if I poured one whiskey, I could go. And it was not hard. I couldn't. I could stay up all night and do it and I was fine. And if I tried to sit down at 2 p.m. and bang out a column, you know, write a review, I couldn't do it.

I couldn't. It was just like writing term papers, you know, it was just the same energy. Maybe that's immature, but it just was how I was Hmm thoughts on Club Chalamet that comes from Priyanka V. You gotta respect the commitment, you know And maybe that's all that you need to respect I mean, I feel like the Kylie stuff's been very tough for her, you know, because she won't even say Kylie Jenner's name. Why is she so against her? Well, I think that there, you know, the Kardashians are polarizing. And I think that there is

just a group of the internet and that does not want, I don know I think like I think it seems like wasted energy at this point but you know I think Kylie looks really pretty you know what do you think about her boob job recipe did you see that she has a boob job again like it's amazing you're just not on the same internet so someone so Kris Jenner recently confirmed the doctor who did her facelift, her most recent facelift, she's had a couple. And then someone on TikTok was like, Kylie, what kind of boob job did you get

or something like that? And Kylie in the comments on TikTok wrote like, the recipe as the internet coined it, which is like, I don't even know where it placement is on the body, the type, size, like profile, all sorts of things. So she confirmed it? Kylie herself did, yes.

Cool. Yeah. I remember in the aftermath of a recent conversation we had about their relationship, the reaction was like, what is wrong with you guys? And I just want to say, I do get it. I get if you are an incredibly famous actor, that you're like, I want to date a hot, extremely hot girl.

And she's beautiful. So I understand. But I think we're at the stage of the Kardashian-Jenner thing, where it's strictly dystopian now. Like the way that they look or the way that they are. Just the, they're placed in society. Yeah, I mean, even the fact that they're just all now out being like, yes, so here is the specific plastic surgery

that I had. Which like in some ways if- Maybe that's better. I think it's better than pretending that it's natural. I do, but it is... We're in a new era, you know? Sean on Jam Session, when? We need his thoughts on the new and just like that season.

I actually... Oh, but you weren't watching it. Someone asked whether you should just, whether you should keep watching. Yes, because I am, Jill, and I need someone to talk about it. I do actually need you to come on before because Juliet's still on leave. So we'll figure that out. Be happy to help. OK.

Movie master macro says Sean could have bagged Kylie. I don't know if that's true. I'm going to be very honest with you. I think that respectfully to me has some swag that you do not. Fair enough. I won't argue with that.

Reese Roberts asks, Amanda and Sean, what's one quality you admire in each other and a burden if you could make life the other of? What? A burden if you could life the other of? I don't know that. What's one quality you admire in each other? Let's hear it right now, live. Well, I'm trying to think of a way to put this, that this is like not like a backhand, a compliment.

What is it? You're very, none of these sound right. Pfft. Like. It pains her. No, no, no. It's like, I mean, they're, they're like... Reliable, dependable, like, all of that doesn't sound,

like, complimentary enough to what I mean, which is like, I have no, like, Sean's gonna show up, Sean will be there. What Sean, what Sean says, Sean does. You don't have to question it. I like, I don't spend any time worrying about it. And that is like, in a professional way, in a friendship way, it's just, Sean is there.

And that's a very valuable point. I would say the same is true for you. Oh, that's nice. You always live up to that. You always do your homework as you like to say. Yeah. I am consistently impressed with your tunnel vision self-confidence.

Like I... It's another one where it's like, how do we put this in a way that isn't insulting? I could never channel it. I am constantly, I'm questing, is what I would say. Okay. And you are not. You were like, I am a philosopher.

Okay. Which is why we're doing this here. You have a point of view and I am like seeking and you have landed. And I gotta gotta say it's very admirable. Thank you. And part of the stew of this show. I guess so. Let's do one more question.

When do we get you playing poker on Twitch? That's not the last question, but that would be really funny. When I, I will get there at some point in my life. So the follow up to the Vegas blackjack thing, which is after like Sean tried to get me to play blackjack at a 25 minimum table, my first time ever to casino. And it was like, I had a full body panic attack.

And so I didn't, but then I just sat like Sean played and I like, I had heard tell of Sean gambling and Sean in the casinos, and I have had to be his horse partner, which was terrifying. But gambling Sean, taking cards Sean, taking over, was, you know, it gave me a new understanding of you. What do you mean? Well, it was just sort of like a lethal antisocial mode that I like knew was there,

but it was just sort of, you know, but there was like something, you were very, very relaxed and confident about it, which I like, you know, I admire, I don't feel that way at a at a casino table, but you were just kind of like, okay, now I'm at like my optimal state. It is probably the happiest I can be in a non-family environment, I would say. I find it to be not stressful at all, which doesn't mean I'm good. I'm not a good gambler. I just like to gamble,

but I also don't get a chance to do it enough. That is pretty, I mean, that you find it like relaxing is very, very intense. It's only money, you know? I mean, that's true. It's only money. And if you decide the amount of money that you're willing to lose and land there and stay there and have the discipline to stay there,

it can be very fun. If you can't do that, and some people can, and I completely understand that, it's not fun. It's stressful, it's anxiety-producing, problematic. I was raised, you know, that if you lose your failure, so even losing money is, you know. Interesting. I mean, it wasn't my choice.

That's not very nice. Okay, well, I think we're good. You got anything else you wanna know? That did end up being the last question, was when will you play live on Twitch? I'm waiting for someone to do something here. Okay. Come on, somebody come through with something

really, really, really special before we close out. How do we have more people watching now than we did? Because, like, people join over time. I guess so. How can you see? I feel like really old mom right now. Oh, okay. Started streaming 82 minutes ago. Do you feel like this will be a good, um... podcast, listen?

I think we flowed pretty well. Jack says yes. He's giving us a nod. Jack, you know, thank you for your support. Let's see, wow, lots of, oh, someone's asking what should be my new opening line on the dating apps? Oh God.

I mean, so here's the thing. We are the wrong people to ask for this because we were not a part of the... I was talking to a friend recently who's on the dating apps and she was saying the bumble is the new, hinges out, bumbles in. I don't know whether we can confirm or deny that. That's just like what I'm hearing on the streets from one friend. But she was talking about how she matched with someone and they started talking and

then they immediately had a two and a half hour phone conversation. And I was like, what are we doing? I mean, that to me is terrifying. That also reminds me when Zach used to try to call me early on, I would like hide from the phone, you know? Like, please don't talk to me on the phone. Because you don't want to speak on the phone? No, absolutely not. Well, you know that we share this, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know that I really don't talk to me on the phone because you don't want to speak on the phone No, absolutely. I know that we share this right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know that I really don't like to talk on the no. I also I like absolutely hate it, but I think Zach was funny

I didn't know that I John so You know, yes, I'm honestly honestly for the first six months anytime Zach was calling he was like, hey So I can't you know, I'm like stuck at like summer jam or whatever And so I can't come like hang out and And it was like, okay, well, fuck you. I don't want to take this phone call. Oh, so you had PTSD from it being just an excuse to not spend time with you. It's like, I mean, now, you know, when the phone rings from a friend, you're like, well, this isn't good.

Uh, and so, so true. So for the first six months, anytime he was calling it was because he had to like, he didn't want like send a text being like, I'm so sorry, like Azealia Bakes won't let me off the bus or whatever. time he was calling us because he had to like, he didn't want like send a text being like, I'm so sorry, like, Azalea Banks won't let me off the bus or whatever. Um, I think that did happen once. I don't know. I remember he was in Los Angeles when he was interviewing her. I spent time with him during that trip. I, I don't like to talk on

the phone for a very simple reason. My parents got divorced when I was like 10. And my dad, which this is a very generous act as a father and not one that other father divorced fathers do, my dad called me every day. He called me every day to talk, which was very nice. But you know, we don't, we didn't have that much to say to each other. And also I was a little raw about them getting divorced. And he was, he would just call every day and he'd be like, put Sean on the phone. He was calling the house phone, of course, not a cell phone because I was 10. And we talked every day or almost every day.

And I only saw him once every two weeks, but we were in contact all the time. It was nice, but... I understand that you have an association now. You know, now I'm like, so I was on the phone and then I went to college and Eileen and I stayed dating, but she went to Johns Hopkins and I went to Ithaca and we talked on the phone every day.

Yeah. For a long time. Yeah. To stay in each other's lives. So from 10 to 21, I was on the phone at length every day. So I don't ever wanna be on the phone again. And I hope all my friends out there understand. And actually the greatest thing that ever happened to me,

the greatest thing that ever happened to me in this very specific respect, is we started doing this show and friends listen to it. And they don't call me anymore because they know what's going on with me. I know, but you have like complained about that. But I'm over it now. Because I think it's good.

It is a nice way to sort of stay in touch with people. That's also, Instagram is very useful for that, for me. It is. There's a little bit of a like, gilding the lily thing to Instagram of like, is it really this good? Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure. You know what I mean? Yeah. Whereas on pods, I'm like just honestly having a meltdown. All right, Sean's not good today. Don't need to call him. Yeah. No, it is nice. But anyway, back to the dating apps opening line. I mean, I just like I have no idea.

I assume that you would be responding to something in someone's profile. So I don't know. I've literally never seen one of these profiles. You haven't, you haven't even like gone on. I've never downloaded the apps. I've never seen what they look like. I mean, I haven't, let's be clear.

I haven't downloaded the apps either, but you haven't had a friend give you the phone? Maybe, maybe, maybe in the 2010s. 2010s. Maybe I really don't think so. I've done it a few times, but I feel like this the prompts are built in right at least on hinge They were but as we said. Are they like skincare routine? Favorite baby products? No, and I think that those- Are you smelly? I'm not sure I would respond to those as a you know, that's not but like- Little intense, but is it like favorite song?

Yeah, or like favorite. Favorite vacation. Maybe it's like a movie thing or something. Do you play pickleball? Yeah. Why don't you just tell me the person you want to date? Right. I wish we could be more help.

I'm sorry. You know, ask him, do a movie thing. If the person doesn't like movies, then you know, you probably don't want to be like, not like, don't like quote a movie, but you could ask a movie thing. If the person doesn't like movies, then you probably don't want to be listening. Don't quote a movie, but you could ask a movie question. Do you think there are people who are avid listeners of this show, who listen to every episode, true psychos, whose partner is not into movies and that we fill a gap in their life? I think so, yes. Because- Do you think that's healthy? a gap in their life? I think so, yes. Because some of...

Do you think that's healthy? Well, some of... We have met the... And I, you know, I don't want to gender essentialize here, but we've met many of the girlfriends at the screenings who show up and they're like, oh, it's so nice that he gets to meet his friends, you know? Like, we're basically imaginary friends

for a lot of people. And that's okay. That's good. I get it. I have other imaginary podcast friends or, you know, our influencer friends. You do? Yeah, like imaginary podcast friends or, you know, or influencer friends. You do? Yeah, like Katie Storino, you know, who I told you about, who sells me deodorant. But you do not want to meet her? Well, Katie has social anxiety, I think. So she's talked about that, so I don't want to make her uncomfortable.

But I think it would be fun. Yeah. Do you feel that this was a worthwhile experiment? Yes, I do. I don't know how many problems we solved for people. This is about our problems. This is not about their problems. I was kind of like, if we could figure out like a call-in element, you know, like we could really work through some things. You want to do a call-in show. I think that I could really, like if the guy who didn't know whether he was into the girl

were calling in, I think that could have been Radio Gold. You know? Was that Brian? Yeah, but then he was using an Elias. So I don't know if we accidentally just added him, but also, you know, that's how social media works. So. I'm not sure I understand.

Alias, Elias, I always say it wrong. I think it's Alias. I know, but that's one of my Chris Ryan things. That guy, I don't really know what he's talking about. Chris? No, no, no, Chris, I do know what Chris is talking about. He's talking a lot of sense. Brian, I don't, you know,

you're either feeling it or you're not, bro. Like, is it really that complicated? Yes, it is. When you didn't meet the love of your life at 16, it is. Okay. It's a tough beat. Yeah. Uh, thank you to everybody who sent incredible questions.

We're demons in the chat. Participated willingly. Thank you to Amanda for dear Abbieing her way to her next career. This is very exciting for her. This is all she ever wanted. Thanks to John Richter for helping us with this live stream. Really appreciate it. Thanks to Jack Sanders, the silent man of this episode.

The very reassuring on the big screen. Very calming. Let's talk about the schedule very briefly. We had to move number 18 of 25 for 25. Yeah, I saw people were getting a little testy about that. Little testy about it. Listen. I'm sorry. There was quite a few things happening in Los Angeles last week. We had to make some accommodations.

We have, yeah. So we need you to work with us. The schedule is, knowing the schedule is a privilege, you know, not an entitlement. Thank you for saying that. I completely agree with you. On Wednesday, number 18 will premiere. We already recorded the episode.

It was an emotional one. I'm very happy that we chose this movie. On Friday, well, first of all, just behind the curtain, I'm going to Atlanta to go watch The Mets. Speaking of The Mets, I'll be in Atlanta for three days for this three game series. I get back Friday morning, I'm getting off a plane. Will you get to be on the broadcast again?

I haven't told John, so I don't know. But if you're still watching, you'll know that I'll be in Atlanta with my father, who I just told his story of his divorce on this podcast. Does Kyle watch or listen to this show? He does. My brother Kyle, yes. Hi, Kyle. Kyle, yes. I wouldn't say.

I'm not sure he's going to like crush the materialist episode per se, but he definitely is a... He's a... He's a Doblinot member. Oh, thank you, Kyle. Um, Kyle and my dad and I are really like our first trip ever together. Yeah. Going to see baseball, of course. And I'm going to come back Friday morning and I'm going to drive to a movie theater

in Ontario, California. I'm going to go see 28 years later and then I'm going to drive to Los Angeles and pot a few inquiries. Oh, are you flying? Are you doing the Ontario trick that I taught you about? Yes, I am. Oh, I'm so pleased for you. Thank you. It's a really much smoother way to travel. I will let you know how it goes tomorrow.

I'm seeing you Thursday. Okay. And then we're podcasting rather than parenting our children on Friday afternoon. Correct. After I have been not parenting my child for three straight days. Anyhow, should be fun. 28 years later, looking forward to it. And then after that, we have a whole summer of potting to do. Thank you everyone again. See you soon.