The Big Picture - The Gen Z Movie Focus Group

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

Amanda is joined by The Ringer’s very own Jomi Adeniran, Jade Whaley, and Jack Sanders to convey the first (and possibly last) Gen Z Movie Focus Group! They discuss how they watched movies growing up versus today, debate what is the most important movie to Gen Z, and assess whether movies are “so back” or “so over.”Host: Amanda Dobbins Guests: Jomi Adeniran, Jade Whaley, and Jack Sanders Senior Producer: Bobby Wagner Video Producers: Jack Sanders and Cory McConnell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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FX's Dying for Sex, streaming April 4th only on Disney Plus. Sign up now at DisneyPlus.com. I'm Amanda Dobbins, and this is The Big Picture, a conversation show about the children and the future. Sean is somehow still out. So we are going full no parents mode on this special episode of The Big Picture. I've convened a panel of the Ringer's finest young minds

to answer every question that I have about how Gen Z does or does not watch movies. Welcome to the first and possibly the last edition of the Gen Z Movie Focus Group. Woo! Just kidding. All right, so before we begin, to the first and possibly the last edition of the Gen Z Movie Focus Group. Let's get it. All right. So before we begin, I'm going to introduce our panel and we're, you know, it's going to be like a mingle, like speed dating type thing. Do they still beat the speed date? Yes.

They do. Okay, good. See, we're learning so much here already. So first, we have Jade Whaley, a producer here at The Ringer, my producer on Jam Session, and an AMC Stubbs member, or I actually forgot to fact check that. Are you still an AMC Stubbs member? I am not anymore. Okay, so a former AMC Stubbs member. We'll talk about that decision making process later on. Jade also played a crucial role

in a middle school production of the musical Wicked. What role was it, Jade? I played a SHIS student. Oh, okay. So which were you like bringing? What's the number? Like the number kid I was? No, no, no, no, no. The number, the musical number where the where the Jonathan Bailey does the oh,

and they dance like this. Not one short day. No. Come on. You were like you were Miss Wicked Stan. You know, I am a Wicked Stan, but currently cannot remember the name of that song. But I was a student. I was an Ozzy and, uh, part of the dance ensemble. And you were really looking forward to at least part one of wicked.

Yes. And part two. Oh, okay. Very much. Great. We'll come back to that. Jean, so to introduce yourself, here's our like icebreaker question. What's the last movie that you watched

and how did you watch it? Okay, the last movie I watched was Anora. Okay. I'm afraid to ask when that was. Last week? Okay. Yeah, it was recent. It was after the Academy Awards.

So like I had just gotten some inspo and some talk from people. I was like, okay, let me watch it. Okay, so like I had just gotten some inspo and some talk from people. I was like, okay, let me watch it. Okay. So at home, I'm guessing. Yes. Watch it at home.

Watch it through- PVOD? PVOD. So, okay. Premium video on demand. Did you pay money to rent or buy it? No. Oh, interesting.

I just watched it through- Are you about to indict yourself in some way? I was just going to say I watched it through a streaming platform. Oh, great. I just watched it through- Are you about to indict yourself in some way? I was just gonna say I watched it through a streaming platform. Oh, great. Okay. All right, wonderful. Okay. Thumbs up, thumbs down?

Oh, thumbs up. Okay, great. Thank you so much. Jade liked Anora. Good. All right. Next, we'll just go and order down the couch here. We have the big picture's own, Jack Sanders.

Reluctantly making his debut in front of the camera. When I told you you had to do this in front of the camera, you were really mad, but you are in fact, the person responsible for putting me on camera every twice a week. So here you go, karma's a bitch. Jack is here in his capacity as the youngest person that I know of working age.

Anyway, I do know my children. And also as our quote unquote rep boy, the growing community of Gen Zers who regularly attend repertory screenings and letterbox events or at least, you know, go on letterbox. So Jack, what is that you as the big picture, you know, member here, you have a leg, you probably watched a movie more recently, but what was the last movie that you watched and how? I went to Burbank Town Center 6 yesterday to see the film Death of a Unicorn. Okay. Wow.

Really, really hard watch. Okay. Really bad. I'm going to say this something, and Jomi, I'm just guessing here. At least someone on this podcast saw that film because I did not go yesterday. I would not recommend. Yeah. Okay.

Great. Thank you for your work. Thank you for repping the Burbank Theater community. That's my favorite theater of the AMC. The town six over the 16. Yep, because you get recliners. Most of 16 doesn't have recliners. That is true. That's facts.

That's true. Okay, I like it. All right, finally, we have Jomi Adenoran, social content producer at The Ringer, our dedicated Ringerverse correspondent. The last time that I saw Jomi, he was wearing merch for the yet to be released Fantastic Four movie.

And I know it was from that edition, because I asked you, I was like, that's the new one, right? TikTok Shop got me, what can I say? Yes, don't know what that means, but thank you. Oh my God. You don't know what that means? Oh, TikTok Shop, Jomi, yeah, no, I know what that means. Okay, I thought that that was some sort of

Fantastic Four reference, but no. I do know what TikTok is, I've what that means. Okay, I thought that that was some sort of fantastic for reference, but no I do know what tick tock is I've never bought anything on tick tock shop. I do buy things on Instagram shop Well, listen you are Gen Z and I am millennial, you know We have to we have to acknowledge our differences in order to overcome them. Okay, Jomi's also here representing the zillennial community Who which is kids on the cusp who feel, excuse me, I'm sorry, young men and women on the cusp. No, it's okay, you called me washed, it's fine. Who feel anxiety about their generational designation.

Jomi, welcome. Hello. And tell us the last movie that you saw and how we watched it. The last movie I saw was the first Mission Impossible on Paramount. I'm walking back in. Wow.

Mission Impossible 8 is eight weeks away. Okay. I'm ready. I will be there no matter what. I'm walking back in. Okay. So I do want to be clarified. That's not the first time you've ever seen the original Mission Impossible.

No. No, no, no. Yeah. Okay. All right. And so you're here, technically according to like the, when you Google, what is Gen Z, what is millennial? You're right on the edge. You are six months younger than Bobby Wagner,

who is here and whose birthday it is. So I guess this birthday is you transitioning from cusp to just old washed person who can no longer be on our panel. That's right. My back legitimately hurts and I'm happy to be here. And you're also, you're a combo almost millennial plus rep boy, plus you do this show. So we don't, you're not that representative of the community at large, but you are out in the world. You see the people. So I do also want you to, you know, chime in if you feel that the under 30 crowd is being

slandered here, because this is basically what this is. And I will, I will say I don't want to make you guys nervous. You don't look nervous. You're doing great. So far, it's sort of like being called to the principal's office. I love you all. Thank you. Like, we have a decent amount of younger listeners, which really, really confuses me. So you are, you're representing all of them today, you know? And there are a lot of people listening who, if you don't get it right, are gonna, I don't know, like send you a TikTok comment. Is that something you can do? Can you comment on TikTok?

You can. Well, you can comment, but send you a TikTok comment. Is that something you can do? Can you comment on TikTok? You can. Well, you can comment, but can you DM? Yes. Yeah, but it's really gonna be a lot of tweets. Yeah. A lot of Instagram comments. YouTube comments. YouTube comments.

The YouTube comments. Yeah. Oh, the YouTube comments. You guys aren't looking at those, are you? No. It's quite literally my job. It's your job. Okay, thank you.

I have to see the tweets and the Instagram comments. Right, that's okay. So we'll share our, we'll compare notes to see what happens. I won't be looking. I love an Instagram comment. Okay, so we're gonna start, and I'll do, I'll cue you guys as best, as best I can, so people just listening know who's talking.

We're gonna start with an easy one, except for maybe Jade. So, Jomi, I'll start with you. How many movies have you seen in the last month? Oh, in the last month, probably like four or five. I had this like whole weekend where I went to see Black Bag, Mickey 17, the Looney Tunes movie. I was locked in.

You were just, you were at the theater all weekend. I was at the theater. Los Feliz 3, Central City. I was everywhere. Wow. So that's going all around the city. Los Feliz 3, Century City, I was everywhere. Wow. So that's going all around the city. Yeah.

So you're not just like hitting Century City and saying, I'm going to be here all day. Are you going with friends? Are you like making appointments here and there? Going with friends. They were like, let's go see Black Bag at Los Feliz 3 on two o'clock. I said, cool. Then I was like, I mean, I got this AMC Stubbs. Might as well, you know, get the E-Side. Got it.

Okay. And just go pop, pop, pop. There you go. Yeah. It's a good weekend. No free ads, but that's, you are, you're paying that. Okay. No, it's probably a good deal.

Okay. So that's all in theaters. What about at home? I mean, when I'm at home, unless it's like a new release, I usually like rewatch the goodies. Yeah. But that sort of counts. Yeah. So. So tell me like release, I usually rewatch the goodies. Yeah, but that sort of counts. Yeah. So tell me, what did you rewatch?

What was a memorable rewatch this month? Oh man. I mean, we talked about it earlier. Every time I'm like, yo, I'm in a funk. I need to get something that gets the juices going, that just makes me feel alive. Yes. Head to Paramount Plus. I'm putting on Top Gun Maverick.

I'm locking in. Do you want to come to my house and babysit and watch Top Gun Maverick with my three-year-old? Just say when just say when it is it is on almost every day in my home But it is your three-year-old nose ball. It is cinema. It's fantastic Amanda there they have the scene during the final run and The the plane goes upside down over the cascading mountains and just disappears. I feel alive. Sure.

There's something in my soul that just, it means something different. You don't have to tell me. I listen. So you're doing one movie over and over again? No, I like, I mean, you know, bring a verse, you know, so you have to throw some, you know, some Marvel in there, some DC in there. You're allowed to say the word Marvel on this podcast. Are you sure?

Yes, yes. I don't know, man. I don't know, man. If you don't want to, that's on you. But yeah, you can... Yeah, so I guess you're doing a lot of research for Ringerverse and everything too. Got to, got to. Okay.

But do you find that you turn on movies instead of TV shows or when you have a free zone? Yeah, if I've got a free two hours, then it's definitely... I like to... When I'm eating lunch, I get that coffee bowl. I might put on a show. People keep telling me to watch the pit. I'm not watching the pit. I've had enough.

No more pit talk. But I watch a show, a rewatch, an episode of Psych Whatever. But if I need to lock in for two hours from my laptop, I'll put on an old movie that I enjoy. And thank you for including that. So it's on the laptop. No, no, no. It's on the TV. I'm working on the laptop. Got it. OK. TV Beyond. So you're doing a second screen.

OK. Well, you know, I hear tell of the of the young people just watching on the laptop. I can't do that. I'm not built like that. Okay. Listen, this is your time, Jomi. So I just want the people to know. I don't understand. Like even when this is really like inside baseball, we'll get screeners for stuff and they'll be on the computer. You have to log in. Yeah. That whole thing. I'm like, bet, let me plug in my ACMI. Let me watch on the TV how I'm supposed to watch it.

Watching on the laptop, it gives me hives. I don't know how you guys do it. Are either of you laptop watchers? Jade, it's okay. Occasionally. Listen, there are no wrong answers. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Occasionally, but I would say I've grown out of it.

College, big laptop watcher. Post college. Is that what I'm picking up on, that it's just like in college you have the laptop and maybe you don't have a TV set up in your dorm? Yeah, I didn't have a TV in my dorm room, so it had to be laptop. It had to be laptop.

But I will say too, I do watch on my phone as well. I'm a phone watcher. Are you watching movies on your phone? What are you watching on your phone? I'm watching TV. Yeah, okay. I'm watching TV. What are you, like, are you doing other things?

Or are you just sitting there? Yes, usually I'm doing other things. Okay. Or like, okay, let's say I'm going to a coffee shop and like, I just wanna get out. Maybe I'll like prop it up and watch something. Are you wearing your headphones? Yes. Okay well I listen.

Who knows at this point. There's hooligans out there. I understand that my tone of voice was not approving but okay. Yes of course headphones on. So how many movies? Movies. Because that's what this is about. How many movies have you watched in the last month?

Last month? You could do 20, 25 if you want to bump the count. 2025? Yeah. 2025, maybe like eight, nine. OK. But I would say in the last month, maybe like two or three. OK.

And were they at home, in theaters? They were all, in the last month, all at home. Okay. So what happened with AMC Stubbs? I wasn't going enough. It just wasn't, the money didn't, it didn't make sense. But there was a time I would say like, cause I've had it for like two or three years. Yeah, I do remember you would come in

on a Monday for jam session and like, you were seeing kind of random stuff. Yeah, I had you remember you would come in on a Monday for jam session and like you were seeing kind of random stuff Yeah, I would definitely absolutely there was a phase where like I have this yes Yes, me and my boyfriend. We both got it cuz we like just wanted to go to the movies all the time We're like as well get this we would go all the time But there just became a point where like we weren't going anymore. So it just was like, okay No, let's just get rid of it. But now when I do go to the movies, I'm like, how much am I paying for this? This is well sure. Yeah Yeah, that's a

Okay, so you're watching movies at home. Yes. How are you deciding what to watch? It's usually see My partner is the more of the movie watcher. So it's like, we usually decide, okay, like what are we gonna watch? And he usually wants to watch a movie. I usually wanna watch a show. Jade, I've been there. So I have to tell you, it gets better.

Thank you, thank you for that. I need that. I didn't realize that we were having the, you know, the early 20 something girlfriend perspective on the podcast, but it's an important one. No, but it is important because I do think I usually watch movies with him. Right. Choosing to watch a movie by myself. Mm-hmm. That's a really big decision for me. Okay.

Do you remember the last one that you decided to watch by yourself where you were like, oh, I'd like to see that? By myself? Yeah, or not watching watch by yourself? Where you were like, oh, I'd like to see that? By myself? Yeah. Or not watching it by yourself, but where you were like, yes, I choose this. I can't remember what movie it was, but I will say I usually tend to watch documentaries on my own. Oh, wow.

Yeah, not necessarily like fiction or like a feature. It's usually like straight documentaries because I love documentaries, okay Yeah, all right. And are you so is it what's available on streaming always or you guys aren't you guys aren't like renting or? No, not really no extra charges. No, just dreaming whatever we've got. Well, we'll use that we can find something Okay. All right, Jack Sanders. Mm- letterbox for this episode at least. Do you have a letterbox? I do. Am I slandering you? Okay.

No, you're not. Jade or Jomi, do you guys have letterbox? I just got a letterbox. Okay. Hell yeah, brother. All right. And Jade's a no. Yeah. Okay. How many movies a month? Well, this last month I did the math. I did 13. Okay.

Five of which were in theaters. Great. Okay. What were the were in theaters. Great. Okay. What were the five in theaters? Do you remember? Mickey 17, Death of a Unicorn, Black Bag, Nova Cane, and the special theater experience I had this month is when I was gone from the show and I went to Europe, I went to Copenhagen. Shout out Husset's Biograph. Wow.

Really cool independently owned cinema in Copenhagen that does a lot of rep screenings. You're making everyone so proud right now. Thank you. On my last day in Europe, they were doing a special screening of The Room. I was like, I need to go to this. Oh, that's fun. This would be amazing, but it was sold out. Okay. And I sent them a message and I'm like, I'm all the way from the United States.

I work on these shows called The Big Picture and the Rewatch. Yeah, yeah, great. I love it. And they were like, come through all the way from the United States. I work on these shows called The Big Picture and they were like, come through. And they were like, come through. So they let me come. Shout out to them. Oh, I'm so flicked. A good job. If you're ever in Copenhagen, seriously, go.

It is an amazing theater. I spoke with them after, told them how grateful I was. And they don't receive a single dollar, any of the employees, they all do it. They're all volunteers. Wow. And they all do it for the love of the game and the community. So special shout out to them

because that was a great theater experience. Yeah, also, I mean, very cool to do on vacation. It is a fun thing to do on vacation if you're like, if you are a movie nerd. So that, okay, five in the last month, so once a week. 13 in the last month, five in theaters. So once a week in the theaters and then the rest at home. Yeah.

Are the movies that you're watching at home for the show or are they for your own interest? No, they're usually for my own interest. And then are they streaming? Are you running things? I'm not renting. Or rarely, rarely. Jomi, are you ever renting?

No chance. Okay, no. You guys don't even have the, you don't have it set up. If it's not on streaming then it's a lost cause. You can also just find it. You can find it. What do you mean by that? What do you mean by that?

What do you mean by that? You can find it. That's all I was going to say. Okay, so no one is entering that passcode. No extra charges. If my girlfriend and I are really fixated on watching one thing and it's 99 cents, sure. Okay, but 99 cents is your threshold. Or I guess 2.99, whatever it is.

But like, I'm never renting a $20 movie on PBOD. Absolutely. I would never do that. And it's, so do you ever have the experience where you go see some, like, are you seeing out the movies? You see that it's 20 bucks and you think I'll just wait till it's on streaming? Or is it just not even you aren't even looking you're just looking at what's available on the streaming apps?

Yeah, just looking at what's what's available on the streaming apps. I think it depends on like the movie. Okay. Yeah, because sometimes I would wait but like Wicked, no, I'm not gonna wait. Did you but you went to the theater to go see it. Right. I saw it twice. Yeah, yeah, you went to the theater? Yeah, I was a great. Mm-hmm. I saw it twice Yeah, yeah, you know, but now it's on streaming and how many times have you watched it at home since it was on streaming? Oh zero Jade you pay for peacock. Yeah, I do. Yeah, but

No, no, I thought I was the only one no The reality and Very very yeah, these let's go. Yeah, the bravo of it all. That makes sense, that makes sense. Very, very, yeah. You stop wrestling too, yeah, you're right. Okay, cool, cool, cool. Plus Bridget Jones mad about the boy. Hell yeah.

Has anyone here seen Bridget Jones mad about the boy? My girlfriend has. Okay, well that doesn't count. Okay. It's available on Peacock. I didn't get to it. Okay. So, Jade, are you watching a TV, laptop, phone, phone?

When you're watching with your boyfriend, like you sit down and watch a movie? We're usually watching, so like if we're not together and we're watching it, we'll watch through laptop, but like if we're together, TV. TV. Okay. Jack? TV. TV.

Okay. And phones? No. Okay, good. It's okay, Jade. It's all right. You know what? It's a computer in your pocket. What are you supposed to do? Exactly. Okay. In terms of the amount of time that you spend watching movies versus watching other stuff. And I think we can, let's start with movies versus TV. Jade, I feel like we know your breakdown. Yeah. More TV. Absolutely. Yeah.

Jack. More movies. More movies, Jomi. It's tight. Yeah, but you're also, your job is like fairly complicating because Ring Reverse now has so many shows that I can't even keep track of. And then, I mean, you just had like the other stuff,

Abbott Elementary, Yes. Barnable control, things like that, just like add up. So it's close, it's a 50-50 split. So now let's put movies and TV in a bucket versus, for lack of a better word, social media. People talk shit on your phone, basically. What's the, how are you spending more time?

And I honestly, like my answer might honestly be more Instagram than movies, but I'm a diseased person. So. So. I spend too much time on TikTok. Yeah. I don't know if you guys are the same way, but they got this Laker, they got this LeBron trend where they're making LeBron songs.

I'm talking about the man on the Lakers, LeBron, I'm asking you to say, it's like, it's just, I'm just like, bet, I can't, more, please, more, more, more, more, more. I'm like, who needs to watch a movie when I can just hear people sing about LeBron all day? But you do watch so much stuff. Do you think actually that you watch more TikTok than you do movies and TV? I know it's your job again.

Yeah, but at the same time, like, instead of watching a movie or grinding film, I'll be in bed. I'll be like, keep swiping. I know. It's one-third of your swiping. I know. I mean, me too. And then I can't sleep at night, guys. It's like, it's really, really bad. I have a 9 p.m. curfew now. They can get there. Jack, movies, TV, or, you know, the siren call of the internet.

I mean, if you're bucketing everything together, I think it has to be the internet. Even if I'm watching one movie every day, maybe that's two and a half hours. I know. This is really depressing when I make us all say all this out loud. Because it's not. If you said just TikTok versus movies or just Instagram or just YouTube, then movies would probably win. But altogether, it has to be. Also, technically, those things are part of your job as well. Exactly.

This is a shame-free question. Like I said. I think it would have to be the general bucket of internet. Look at Instagram all day long. You say shame-free, but if you looked at my screen time, you'd be disgusted. What's your screen time? What's your screen time? Because it's like, what am I going to do? What is it? I can't try. You say shame free, but if you looked at my screen time, you'd be disgusted. What's your screen time? Because it's like, what am I going to do? What is it? You know?

Yeah, what's like the amount of hours? My worst screen time, it was like 10, 10 and a half hours. That's pretty, that's pretty bad. A week. Or a day. That's your job. That's true. Good point. But still. Good point. But still, I remember people used to post it, and they'd be like, oh, man, I was on five hours. That's crazy. I'm looking at myself like, do I need to go outside? I mean, yes. I think all of us, myself included, should go outside. Touching grass is necessary.

Jade? That is also a difficult one to answer. I'll probably say social media, but like I watch a lot of TV. So like I would say the it's pretty close, but I don't know. Maybe I am on social media. I'm an Instagram girl too. So like, thank you so much for letting me. I had a TikTok phase kind of out of it now though, but Instagram.

Yeah. Listen to LeBron memes. Yeah. Okay. So now I want to talk about not your grownup lives, but Instagram, yeah. Missing the LeBron memes. Yeah. Okay, so now I wanna talk about not your grownup lives, but your childhood lives. This is what I can get into. Yeah, okay, so broadly speaking, how did you watch movies growing up?

Jade, you're excited about this question. Yeah, VHS, DVD, downloads. But did you watch a lot of movies? Were they, what kinds of movies? And they? Yes. What kinds of movies? Oh my gosh. And what role did they play in your life? And you cannot, like, what age are we talking here also? I would say like age five, six to like 12.

Okay. I was a huge Disney Channel girl. Sure. So like- Oh, okay. Disney original movies were like huge for me. So we're talking- So we're talking High School Musical. Sure. Talking- We're so damn- The Cheetah Girls. Disney original movies were like huge. So we're talking high school musical talking.

So the cheetah girls. Fly in. There's not a star in heaven that we can't reach. Listen, hello fellow kids. Also like a lot of like even like Pixar was huge. Or like you know like I mean Shrek, The Incredibles, like I think movies definitely made, were like a bigger thing for me

in terms of like entertainment as a kid. And it was movies when they were coming out. When they were coming out. So like you would go see Incredibles in the theater? Go see Monsters Inc, go see, like, yeah, that was definitely like a family thing we would do. Okay. So, yeah, absolutely. And then would you Go see, like, yeah, that was definitely, like, a family thing we would do, so. Okay. Yeah, absolutely.

And then, would you re-watch, like, you know, Monsters, Inc. 45,000 times? Yes. Yes. Okay. Absolutely. And we had them on DVDs, so, like, I mean, at that time, we weren't really streaming anything, so we either had the DVDs or VHSs or we would go to, like, Redbox, Netflix, and pick it up and blockbuster.

It really, it softens my heart that you referenced VHS. Yes, absolutely. I mean, like we had, you know, Robin Hood, Cinderella, all of them on VHS. Yes, we had all of those on VHS too. In my time, you know, but we did the same thing. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, Jack, what about you? I noticed you didn't join in on the High School Musical sing-along.

I don't have those lyrics memorized. Okay. I thought that was great. I only knew the first part, but that's okay. I vividly remember High School Musical being an event film in elementary school. I remember like 20 of us getting together. No, yes, same. Yeah, but growing up, I don't really remember the kinds of movies I was watching from like ages

six and up, but I watched a lot of movies on DVD players. Like traveling in the car, like a lot of movies. Yes, yes, yes. DVD player was big. But no specific movie titles stay with you? The movie titles that stay with me more are like ages 12, 13, 14. Speak on it, tell us.

Well, I remember the first really big formative movie experience was when Force Awakens came out. I was 14. Oh God. Good God. I just, I'm sorry not to make this about me, but I've never been more hungover than when I went to see the Force Awakens.

I'm like, I have like such a sense memory of how old and hungover I was in that moment and you're like 12. Anyway, 14. I'm sorry. Yes. But it was a really big deal to my dad that we got to see it together because when Empire Strikes Back came out, he was 13.

So it was like he was 13 again with his son and that was a very important memory. Honestly that was the last one I really locked in for because that wasn't a huge thing. Do you remember him showing you the original Star Wars movies? Oh yeah, we watched all of them. And like how old were you? I mean, if that's before that one,

I probably eight or nine. Okay, yeah, that's nice. And yeah, like the stuff that really I hold onto is like the event kind of stuff. Like when I snuck into my first rated R movie. What was it? A Million Ways to Die in the West by Seth McFarlane. Okay sure. What theater would you like to... It's okay they're not gonna... No that's okay well it's different ownership now. Kevin Smith now owns my childhood movie theater. Oh that's cool. Because we're from the same town and during COVID when I almost got lost

you came in and saved it. it. But it was different ownership group so I have no problem saying that it was the Atlantic Highlands Cinema. Okay wow okay. Joami? I've never felt older hearing you say you're 14. Well see you're the bridge. Yeah I mean listen. It's in college this is my set. Oh my god. Anyway, I know I was dating my now husband because he turned over to when the Millennium Falcon showed up He turned to me and he was like, that's the Millennium Falcon And I was like, I'm not that stupid. But anyway, no, I think I can vividly remember the first movie I saw in theaters and it was Monsters Inc. Same! That's so nice.

Because my dad was like, is this movie going to scare you? And I was like, I'm tough. Don't worry about me. And it scared the hell out of me. But it was fine. No, for me, like, it was always like trying to get my parents to take me to theaters was always a challenge. So anytime they did, it was always like trying to get my parents to take me to theaters was always a challenge. So anytime they did, it was always like a thrill.

You know, I remember dragging my mom to go see the first Fantastic Four movie in theaters. Oh, that's nice. It was bad, right? No, no. How old were you? I was 2005, eight, nine. Okay. So to you, it was perfect. To cinema. Yeah.

Cinema. I mean, look, now it's fine. Yeah cinema. I mean look now it's fine Chill on the slander. Uh, but to your point Being like watching movies as a kid was always cool. You know, we had the Nickelodeon VHS is the orange ones Yeah, what were those like those were rugrats? Take me there. I want to go there. Yeah, listen, I was part of that. We had those, but the movies that really made me came out when I was like 12, 13. Okay. Which were those? No, no, no. You say this, Amanda, but I'm gonna list some movies.

That, by the way, all came out within a 62 day radius. Right? So within like eight weeks of yes, 2010 all came out in the summer. Yes. And so you were just you were there and when I tell you I was locked is I think it's the first time I ever locked in. Yeah. Beautiful.

I had a summer like this, but it was in 1995 before any of you were born. So continue. If I was brave enough to share my litter box publicly, like my top four, this would be my top four. I need everybody to just just relax when you hear this. Okay. Iron Man 2. Okay. The Los team. Okay night and day Shaped me Amanda. They made me who I Beautiful kicker Wow That that's beautiful because that can really only happen when you're 12 Yeah, and you have I did you like see you dropped off at the at the mall or how are you getting to and from?

The movie theater? It was basically, so that would have been 2010. So that was the summer before high school, right? So you graduate, you're like, the leg is in the playoffs. Everybody's feeling good, you know what I mean? Right. I'm going back to back tips. So I'm just like, hey, hey, you know what I'm saying?

Work it in. Yeah, I'm doing great in school. Can I go to the movies? And you just did that like every two, two or so weeks. Okay. And then you have the best may of your life, essentially. Wow. Okay. And then but are your parents going with you? Are you old enough to go by yourself? I was old enough to go by that time. Yeah, that's an amazing feeling. Oh, it was fantastic. Yeah. Okay, I feel like I have a sense of what your favorite movies growing up were as a result of that incredible letterbox four. Jack, like what stand, what were the movies that you remember loving, that you remember being like, I want to see more. What was your, what was your summer of 2010?

Well, I think when you're talking about like the, when things went tough, Technic moment Yeah for me was moonrise kingdom Oh, that came out It's way different than mine It's way different than mine I wish Sean were here, that's his favorite I was 11 years old when it came out so talk about the fucking target audience I mean I looked at the screen and I was like

I actually don't know if an 11 year old is the target audience That kid is like, he's supposed to be like 12 years old Yes, I understand what you're saying Yeah, no but it's beautiful that you saw it yourself 11 year old is the target audience. But he's supposed to be like 12 years old. Yes. I understand what you're saying. Yeah, no, but it's beautiful that you saw yourself. And yeah, I just remember being like, I can't believe movies can be like this.

That's so nice. And really loving it. Still love West to this day. But so is night and day. So, yeah. Yeah, that's beautiful. Tom Cruise, Cameron Diaz, it doesn't get any better than that.

Exactly. Jane. That's from flavors. Tom Cruise, Cameron Diaz. It doesn't get any better than that. Exactly. Jane. Paul Danil. All right. We're going to take a little bit of a turn. OK, I don't know how we can take a turn. The movies that really made me see, I love I pride myself in loving those movies that are often left behind or often, you know, taken a back seat from like the mainstream. Right. So no one else understood it, but you, yeah, you saw it. Understood.

My movies were, number one, Johnson's Family Vacation with Cedric the Entertainer. Okay. You've seen it? Yeah, of course. Come on. You know what I'm saying? Um Solange Knowles. You know what I mean? Like um I did I have not seen this but oh you will chuckle the whole time. Well, certified good class. Yes. Classic. Uh another one. Roll Bounce. These are

all like 2005, 2006. Okay. I just love kind of a feel good family movie. Again, the Cheetah Girls. Okay, so incredible. I just. It was a time. The soundtracks.

Yeah. Specifically Cheetah Girls 2. Okay. That really made me so Where and like how are you seeking these movies out where you DVD they were all on DVD, okay? So are you like where are you buying your DVDs in 2005 or are you renting well? I would say like my parents were like I Don't even know how they all got there.

I was born and I'd go to the cabinets in our kitchen. There was just stacks of movies. Oh, so your parents are well, my dad's a filmmaker. But I did know that. Yes, yes. Um, so, and you know, my parents have been in entertainment and film and TV. So like, we do have two LA kids here as well. So film was like a very big, like having movies watching them, but like I was definitely the

kid who was like rewatching the same ones. Like I found my favorites, I'm good, I'm sticking to them, love them. Your favorites of your parents collection or you found your favorite at Blockbuster or at Target or like, you know, talk me through the acquisition process. I think, like, when it came to, like, Cheetah Girls, High School Musical, Disney movies, like, I used to love Seventeen again with Zac Efron. Yeah, of course.

Those kinds of movies, yeah. And Matthew Perry. Yes, yes, yes. The other half of that. Absolutely. Equations. You know, I, look, I loved Zac Efron. But I think those were like,

we would probably buy them at like a Target or like a Walmart or something like that. But we would also go to Blockbuster a lot. Like that was kind of like every Friday type of thing. We'd go to Blockbuster in South Pass, right by the Vons and the pavilions. Yeah, we'd go right there. I'm gonna tell you about the South Pass

Farmers Market experience I had last week. Oh, I love to know because I haven't been over there in a long time. It's very charming. Yeah. Okay. But yes, we were definitely Blockbuster heavy. Was Blockbuster, Jomi, Jack, still in your? Yeah. Blockbuster Friday was definitely. Wow. This is beautiful. Yeah. We also, I also had that. I mean, it was VHS, but like we had it. Yeah, they still had VHSs though, like for renting when we were, well, when I would go. You're familiar with the technology.

You're not like, what is that? We still have our VHS, like it's in the garage, but. Sure, but also you've just, you guys, it's a physical media house, which is beautiful. Yeah. You know? yes Jack blockbuster Not really not really red box and I'm also not like what is VHS like I've watched movies on VHS But it was never a part of like the regular routine of watching

I'm like 99% sure the hitch DVD and the spider-man 3 DVD we took from blockbuster just never gave back And you know, sometimes that happens it does I just never gave back. And you know, sometimes that happens. It does. It's true. This question I gave you, well, I gave you, I let you guys know generally what we would be talking about because I'm not cruel, but this one I asked you

to tell me your answers in advance so I could make sure that I saw it. Jade forgot to do that, so we'll see whether I've seen it. Okay. So this is, and this is a broad and stupid question, but it will start a conversation. What is, in your opinion, the most important movie to Gen Z? Like what is, and it doesn't have to be the only answer, but something that you think represents what movies are

to people your age, a movie that you have in common, I don't know, however you define important. Jack, I'm gonna let you go first. Okay. I told you I had two. Yes. I lied, there's really more, I promise I'll be quick. Okay, well, I actually, I want you to start with your two

because you told me and I thought they were both really fun. You want me to just say the two off-ramp? Yeah. Avengers, End? Okay. And Lady Bird? I'm 100% serious. So how do you bring those together? I'm gonna get there. Because I feel like it's a Venn diagram. I'm gonna get there. But it's just two circles. I'm gonna get there. Alright, hear me out. Ready? Go. The first way I looked at the question, I spent way too much time on this question, was the big box office movies that take up the cultural mind share.

The first, in chronological order, I had three. Twilight, Hunger Games, Avengers. Twilight, I think, is a little too old. I think that's closer to millennial. Is that important to you? That was one of my answers with Twilight. I look forward to talking about it, because I was a part of that experience.

I saw that opening weekend. But the problem is Gen Z is 97 to 12 and I know we can only represent ourselves but I think 08 is just a little too early for it to be the answer. Hunger Games I think is in real contention but then I landed on Endgame because it's 2019, most of Gen Z is able to see it when it comes out. And I think two things. One, if you pulled every single Gen Z person on planet earth, I think this is the movie

that you would get the highest percentage of people saying they have watched. And two, I think the digital age has really spawned just tremendous FOMO and it's the biggest event film of our generation where even if you didn't care about Avengers even if you didn't watch it I think when it came out you can remember what the scene was like when that movie was in theaters. Then I was... Can I just tell you a great answer? The big picture is very proud of you. Today and every day but that was good. Okay the other one you're gonna have to

make a case for. I will, I have a case ready. So then I was like, okay, I hate thinking about movies just in a vacuum of how much money they made. What are some of the less commercially successful movies that represent Gen Z? And I'll say before Lady Bird, I think the two films that actually represent what growing up in the digital age best are

Booksmart and Eighth Grade, but those really don't take up any cultural, very niche in whatever echo chamber you're in. I landed on Lady Bird because not only did it have more commercial success, it also had more critical acclaim and I think it's very well remembered and there's a couple of things. One, there's yearning for a time where phones didn't exist, but it's also, it's a period piece, but it's not so far gone that it feels modern and rooted like in the world that we were growing up in. It's literally about some of my exact age.

So thank you so much. That's what I'm saying. I feel modern and rooted in the world that we live in. You know, 2002, 2017, that's not too far away. Yeah, no, it's great. Yes, as we're discovering on this podcast right now. And I mean, it's just probably one of the greatest coming-of-age movies ever made that also coincidentally came out when a large percentage of Gen Z was in the sweet spot of like ages 13 to 20.

Right. Usually a genre filled with cliches, you know, heavy-handed stuff over Ra, and it was genuine and Ra, and also features three key collaborators in Hollywood that really started blowing up during Gen Z. In Chalamet, Sir Sheronin, and Greta Gerwig. Now obviously Greta was an actress before and she had a claim, but this was her directorial feature and obviously that spawned everything we've seen over the last decade. So I think all of those things both represent Gen Z and was a good sweet spot of right age, right time, right movie.

Exactly. So thoughtfully. Be honest. Mm-hmm. Had you ever heard a Dave Matthews band song before seeing Lady Gaga? I had because my elementary school music teacher was obsessed with Dave Matthews. Did you have to like perform them in recitals? No. Okay, I mean I kind of wish that you had. So in what context is your elementary school teacher playing you Dave Matthews band?

Just like end of class, two minutes, you guys need to know about this band, they're awesome. Yes, I swear to god. Hey listen to my man's mixtape. She was obsessed with them. She loved them. Okay, well, that is an A24 movie coming soon. Okay, Jomi. Answer Shrek. Is that your answer, dude? I had a few answers. Okay.

They both said two of them, but I have more. The answer is Shrek. I can't tell you. This is a hilarious and very legitimate answer, but explain. I can't tell you. This is a hilarious and very legitimate answer, but explain. I can't tell you how much my life, I don't want to say ruined, but has been dictated by Shrek, Shrek memes. Absolutely. I have a friend actually, her name is Abby, who collects Shrek DVDs.

She goes to the Walmart, she's going to the bin, she's buying a Shrek DVD, and she's putting on her wall. She got like hundreds of them she's got tattoos this is anecdotal this is all anecdotal no one's a data scientist here okay so she's buying the same Shrek DVD okay just Shrek not Shrek, not Shrek 2? Hundreds. Maybe. But as it was portrayed to me, the same Shrek DVD. How much is a Shrek DVD going for these days? You can bargain, man.

Probably like five. I've straight up never wanted to be friends with someone more than this person. I need you to introduce me to this person. She listens to the pod. She's going to hear this. We can make the connect. She's gonna hear this. Okay. We can make the connect. No, and I mean, legendary stuff.

Yeah. I mean, the memes, Shrek is love, Shrek is life. I'm sure we're all familiar. Like just a generation of, I remember they announced Shrek 5 coming and everybody went crazy. Everybody went nuts. I mean the motion is wild. We haven't had a movie come out in how many years? The musical. You know? Let's talk about Universal Studios, Rides.

Crazy motion. Crazy impact. Crazy motion. Impact is there. This is why we did this podcast. We have the most of Wayne Green right now. That's true. That's true. Crazy motion. Impact is there. This is why we did this podcast. We happened to both be wearing green right now.

That's true. Like, obviously a very successful movie. So a lot of you, did you all see it in theaters? Yeah. I think the first. Well, Jack, yeah, you're, you're a baby and we respect you. The first one. I saw it in theaters. But the, the other, the other the second third and fourth one they were all DVD Oh, okay. Yeah, I think I saw the I I can't remember the first one maybe but the second and third one I definitely saw in theaters and then the fourth one. Yeah I got it. Yeah, let me just watch that to create. I think that's a great pick. So Jade Two of yours have been at least mentioned. Yes, Twilight and Shrek were both two of my,

but the third one, which is funny because I watched the first and second, but I wasn't like a part of the fandom of it, but I would say Harry Potter. Yeah, I wondered whether someone was gonna bring this up. I feel like that's a little bit older. Not older than Shrek. Yeah. Yeah, like I. Like I mean with the movies, but the books, not the book, the movie specifically. I feel like we're very much like gen Z coded in terms of just like the amount of people our age were like gravitating towards that. I mean,

I think that's true and that they were still... Yeah. They were trying to do this thing of being a kids movie that also included all of the adults such as like myself. I agree. But they were released when you were younger. And the first couple are for children. Yeah.

They're very small. Exactly, very young. The only reason I brush up against it is because when you get online, every time you see a Gen Z you're trying to make fun of a millennial, it's ha ha, you went into, you're a Hufflepuff, or you're a Gryffindor.

Like that's the joke, right? I could see that. I could see it being like, I do think Shrek was more Gen Z than Harry Potter. I also want to add them. The first Harry Potter film is 2001, and Shrek is also 2001. I also would like to add this as maybe a secondary.

It's not top, but SpongeBob the movie. I had this in my short list as well. I had this too. I have to say, I have list as well. I had this Say I have to be honest with everybody Listen I have I have worked at the ringer for a long time and have interacted with people younger than me for a long time So I'm familiar with the impact that I've had on all of you. That was originally a TV show. Originally, but the movie specifically is like, Say more.

Very much embedded into a lot of Gen Z's brains and minds. I think that- What have you learned? What did you learn from SpongeBob the movie that you're taking with you? What have I learned? I think one of the biggest things is, I mean this is a different quote, but adventure is out there. Yes. Adventure is out there. See?

There you go. I have a question for you. Are you a goofy goober? Are you a goofy? I mean I don't know, but here's a real question for you guys. Like is SpongeBob over or my kids gonna get into it? I am. So here's the thing. Listen right? If we be in, if we be in. Listen, listen, you don't, you don't, my sons deserve adventure that is out there too, okay? I think there's other adventure. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, hold on, they do. What you do is you can't, I can't co-sign anything.

You guys were really, really, really gatekeeping. No, I, no, not at all. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's not about gatekeeping. It's not about gatekeeping. I can't co-sign nothing after 2010. Right, that's the thing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, a check. You go on, you go on Paramount Plus and you put on episode one, help wanted, ain't letting them ride until you get to about 2009, 2010, and then you get cut off. Okay.

Agreed. All right. Yeah. Cause also I would say like, that's similar with Disney channel. Disney is not, there was a point in time between like 2003 when like That's So Raven came out and then going like up to like 2011, 2012, like when like the last shows of like, like Phineas and Ferb. Like those were the times where I feel like had the most impact on like kid TV. We used to make real TV, man.

Real TV, you know what I'm saying? This is a movie podcast. Yes, but real Disney original movies. Smart House, The Luck of the Irish, great movie. Yeah. Eddie's Million Dollar Cook Off. You know what I'm saying? I think there was this time where the creative juices

were really flowing between Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, RIP, Disney Channel. Now the kids have the descendants. Good for them, man. Good for the kids. I'm so happy for this. I hope they enjoy it. It is interesting that you're talking more about the Disney Channel originals and the TV stuff as opposed to whatever. know, whatever. I mean, I'm ruined forever because I was Disney Princess

era, but I can't tell you what the 2008 like Disney Princess. I think the thing about it is that Disney specifically, and then I think Nickelodeon started doing it too, is they would have the shows and then they would make movies with the show, Wizards of Waverly Place had a movie. Even Steven's had a movie. Aren't they making a new show? Lizzie McGuire, they did.

I think they started. Yeah, okay. I know that's a big deal. Lizzie McGuire too, she goes to Rome or something. Oh, I think Lizzie had. Yeah, you and Juliette taught me about this. Sure, yeah. And she got her twin.

Yeah, the only important thing that's ever happened at the Trevi Fountain and Rome and cinema. Continued. Yes, exactly. I think what's important about it too is like, we had me talk about this earlier, it's hard to get your parents to take you to the movies, but it's easy when Disney Channel is just airing Haskell Musical 2 over and over and over again. It's like you got your movies and TV.

There was an event film aspect of it too where it would be advertised weeks before that, mark your calendars, Friday, April 21st. We are going to have the Lizzie McGuire movie on 7pm Eastern and you would make plans around the release of the Disney film. Brother let me tell you something, me and my family were on a road trip. We're going to San Diego for a week vacation and we knew that High School Musical 2 was premiering that Sunday and so I have like we got there maybe started like 45, 30 minutes. I have never unpacked a car faster

to be in front of my television, to watch High School Musical 2, the premiere. I'm telling you, like you're absolutely correct. It was a moment. But it was, it was access. Part of it, Jomi's point is interesting that it was easier to see those at home than it was to get to the movie theater.

But there was even like High School Musical 3. Yeah, I saw El Capitan It was for my my friend it was her birthday that I went to school with and She I don't know LA privileged LA Connectged, LA Connect, she had a Connect. So we watched the premiere there. Okay. And it was a whole theme was High School Musical 3 theme. Wow. Whole thing.

High School Musical was so big that they had posters, they advertised posters in the hallways at my school. Wow. Like they bought ad space in the whole elementary school. I'm telling you, honestly that might have been one of the Gen Z top like what it kind of defines. Because there was just so, I mean I had high school musical shoes. I mean that's great. It was like, it was everywhere.

I'm happy for you that you're, you know, were you allowed to wear those to school? Yeah. Okay, I don't know some schools. Oh yeah, no we were pretty loose on that. This was not on the list, but this just occurred to me based on this story. Did any of you ever have a movie-themed birthday party? Where your birthday party was go to the movies

or watch a movie? Oh my God. Jomi, I think you're a summer birthday like me. Yes. If I'm remembering correctly, I think, this is so embarrassing. I think I went to go see Fantastic Four, Rise of the Silver Surfer on my birthday.

OK. And that sucked. Yeah. Because the movie sucked. All right. And did you have friends come or that was your birthday treat? It was just my family. Because we wasn't made of money, Amanda.

Sure, I know. Even then. We'd shell out so much. When we took the five of us. And yeah, the movie stunk and my birthday stunk, but it was still a good time. All right, but that was what you wanted to do on your birthday.

I wanna go see Fantastic Four. Jack? I don't think I did. Okay. I might not just have been. Sean and I both did, but we are ancient and also summer birthdays and we're also movie nerds. So like a thing that you would do is,

and you know, go to the mall and everyone would like go see it. Mine was like, I went to see Elijah Wood in North, which is a completely, none of you have seen this movie and there's no reason you should have because much like You joe me it turned out to be bad, but you don't know when you're picking your birthday movie, right? Okay, all right Here's another very important Gen Z question

According to you who is the biggest movie star in the world? was first Joe me I mean So it doesn't have to be a Gen Z person. It doesn't know your perspective, but it's so on the nose. I got to go with my goat. I got to go with RDJ, you know, the bring him back. So here's the thing, right?

He's got all the stuff in the 90s. He becomes toxic. Nobody wants to work with him. Kevin Feige and Jon Favreau like here. Here's a lifeline. And he changed their lives. He changed those broke people lives. Now there's a whole, now movies are fundamentally different because Robert Downey Jr. is like, yeah, I'll play Iron Man. Sure, why not?

Okay. Right? And then he leaves, wins an Oscar for Abbeheimer. Then it's like, you know what? I got my award. Let me go get this bag back. Comes back to do Avengers, Doomsday, and Secret Wars. That's my goat. I don't know what to tell you. I'm sorry. Okay. So I just want to let you know that Robert Downey Jr. turned 60 on Friday. So which is, you know, as I show every day, age, you know, is not a limitation. Is that a slight towards Tom Cruise?

What? That he's turning 60? Yes. No, I'm just kind of, this is a podcast about how you guys are young and, and what you think about the movie world and you're picking a 60, you know. Cause I don't respect these young, these young actors. They don't want it no more.

They don't want it hard enough. Timmy, the only one, like, let's be like perfectly honest. Timmy, the only one who got that dog in him. Okay. Right? Yeah. What happened to what, and maybe this, and this is also the only one who got that dog in them okay I yeah what happened to what and maybe this and this is yeah so they do got that dog this is where I and I show my age in terms of like I'm like when I think about yeah because I'm like what happened to the rom-coms man we used to earn people used to earn their way yeah you thing. I agree with you. You know, I saw, like, it's a, it's really the state of the industry when I'm looking

at Anyone But You with Sidney Sweeney and Glenn Powell. I'm like, wow, man, movies are back, bruh. This changed my life. It's a regular run of the mill joint. We should be getting two of these a week, all right, of just mid-level rom-com joints. That's called television, but I broadly agree with you. What's tough is that they actually are making them again,

but they're all on streaming services, starring women who were in those rom-coms 30 years ago, when they released in theaters. It's called Garbage Women. We did an episode about it on Friday, Yasi and I. Also some great hairstyling tips in that one. But speaking of, have you seen the Zach Efron, Nicole Kidman rom-com, Jade?

A Family Affair on Netflix. That is something that happens. But as Miss High School Musical, you'll have to check it out. So besides Zach Efron, who to you is the biggest movie star in the world? but as Miss High School Musical, you'll have to check it out. So besides Zac Efron, who to you is the biggest movie star in the world? I was gonna say Tom Cruise.

I just feel like as someone who's not necessarily well-knowledged or well-versed in the depths of movies. No, no, no, Tom Cruise. When you hear movie star, you say Tom Cruise. I'm thinking Tom Cruise. I'm thinking Tom Cruise. I'm thinking Leonardo DiCaprio. OK. I'm thinking like Viola Davis too, though.

Yes. I'm thinking Samuel L. Jackson. Sure, but you're not thinking anyone under 30. Zendaya would be the only one. Yeah. I mean, she's getting that. I mean, you guys did. It's Zendaya, Tim, Timothy, and Margot Robbie.

After that, you could take her and leave her. I think it's telling for both of you that your answers are not peers. They are, I say movie star, and you think of relatively old. It's an older concept. You think people who had longevity in? Yeah, who have been in multiple lead roles who have been Award-winning to some degree

That's what I think it sucks too. Cuz Tom Holland should be in this conversation You're not doing you're not doing enough. Oh, he's not I mean he's gotta be in a Christopher Nolan I'm gonna get a Christopher Nolan movie. Yeah, I'm in a Christopher Nolan movie, you know what I'm saying? Spider-Man 4, it might turn, but these are the conversations he should be in. That's true. You know, we mentioned Timothy, we mentioned Zendaya. He should be, he gotta be here somewhere. It is hard when, and you know, Sean and I are like broken records on this, but everyone

your age, and Tom Holland is a great example, became famous by playing a superhero. So he's not really Tom Holland in most people, he's Spider-Man. So then it's hard to become known on your own if you are Captain America or Spider-Man or Batman or the Silver Surfer. Who played the Silver Surfer? I can't remember who did the mocap,

but he was voiced by Lauren Fishburne. Oh, okay. Lauren Fishburne. Lauren's Fishburne. Yeah, I can speak. Jack, who's your movie star? Inburne. Yeah, I can speak. Jack, who's your movie star? In my heart of hearts, I think it's Chalamet or Cruise.

Okay. And then I'd lean Chalamet because the upward trajectory. Sure, yeah. But I just want to throw this out. Okay. So I did a little digging. Great.

And I was looking up how many movies since 2016 has an actor or an actress been in that have grossed 200 million at the International Box Office. Okay. And no disrespect, but I wanted to look outside of the Avengers window because that's kind of in the past.

I saw like an asterisk to me. Yes. I saw like an asterisk to me. Yes. But for the same reason that we're, you know. Projecting towards the future. Well, and also the Avengers are the that's the draw. Yes Okay, so I looked at DiCaprio. He's been in one. I looked at Cruz and Chalamet have both been in three

Yes, Zendaya has been in six, but they're all mainly supporting roles, right? Yes, yeah, how many Dwayne the Rock Johnson has been in since? 2016 yeah, but this is a little I mean, okay, let me guess. Oh, hold on. I'm gonna say 12. I'm gonna say 13. I'm gonna say eight. It was 12.

Oh my gosh. Now, some of the parts are, you know, a cameo on a fast movie or a voice credit in Moana. Right. But even if you cherry pick and take five of those off, he still has more than almost anybody else. And I'm, I'm not saying that box office success directly translates to movie stardom, but it's hard not to, that number was staggering to me.

No, it's a great point. And I think his career sort of, I think people, he realized that people in his circle realized that and then. Tried to capitalize on it it but wound up making movies like Jungle Cruise and Red Notice and it turns out that we don't like Red Notice over here. Are you serious? Okay it was I mean it's not the worst thing I've ever watched. It's quite bad. But it's not it's not great it's not great. It's not great. You're absolutely right. But you know, I guess it turns out that the movies have to at least be watchable in order for people to want to keep investing in the, in your career. Maybe the quality is the quality

of... But it's good research and I'm glad you did it. I'm glad you brought it up. And like I said, my heart of hearts, I say it shall may. I just wanted to present the point because I was shocked by that. Yeah. No love for Zoe Saldana? No. No? I mean, she I say it's Chalamet. I just wanted to present the point because I was shocked by that. No love for Zoe Saldana? No. She's in two franchises where one of them she is blue the whole time. I mean Star Trek, Avatar. That's right. That was a joke.

Your favorite movie, Amelia Perez? Yes. Wait, why would you say that to me? No, I mean You talk about box office. I I don't have the number off the top of my head, but literally one of the highest Like I remember when end game passed Avatar and then Avatar passed Endgame again, it's just like Zoe D'Andrea switching teams every time because she was in both those movies. And I think the answer really is that like the Avengers or Avatar, I guess not really, but Guardians, all of those things. Can we name the guy in Avatar?

This is a movie podcast. Can we name the guy who plays the main dude in Avatar? Oh, I can. Yes. Can I name the guy in Avatar? This is a movie podcast. Can we name the guy who plays the main dude in Avatar? Oh, I can. Yes. Can the, can I, any of you? Nope. I can, but only because he's the guy from Avatar. Right. Scott Worthington? Sam Worthington. Sam Worthington. Damn it. I knew the time. I thought I was there. It's fine. He looks like a Scott. It could have been Matt Damon. Matt Damon's over there. Matt Damon sold out. Yeah, I know. But yeah, it's just like, it's incredible

how forgettable those movies are. But yet, when the Fire and Ash comes out, I'm going to be there. Going to make a billion. So many billions. Watch that three hour green screen. OK. I've got some lightning roundish questions. The first is, you three are are I think

quite representative, but you do also work at the Ringer. So you consume pop culture and sports at a intense rate. So I want to talk about like movies and your friends. And this will be like super anecdotal. But like, do you talk about movies with your friends? Do you go see movies with your friends? Is it, you know, is it in the group chat? Is it, I sound like a thousand years old, but I- You don't, you actually don't. I'm already on board. I do use group chats.

Is like, is it a shared cultural? Are they a shared cultural thing? Yes. For people your age? Absolutely. What was the last movie you saw like with friends? With friends? Yeah. Wicked, saw Wicked with friends. Sure. that one with friends yeah wicked saw wicked with friends sure saw Barbie with friends mm-hmm group chat discourse all over the

place okay I think it's very and and then like again with my partner like again he's a movie guy so like we talked about movies all the time and I think too like after just watching a movie it's natural to be brief and just talk and discuss about the movie. So you mostly named like event movies. Event movies. So you would say that that is what really captures. Yes because I mean to again going like you know not to get off movies and onto TV but like we kind of do the same thing with TV it's like if we watch the same shows, you know, yeah Jack Yeah, but I also think I'm like biased because I've locked myself into a comfort bubble of Ithaca College film school graduates So it's kind of tough. Yeah, I mean like we have people in our friend group that

Like we've met outside that are apart, but by nature It's just so but I would say movies are the number one thing we talk about movies are a way of making friends almost I don't mean that that that I don't mean that in a pathetic way I mean that in a cool I think we made the friendships we made the friendships not directly through movies but it's a through line of our relationship that's great. Jomi? Definitely, I think, I mean, you mentioned working with The Ringer, I have like two,

if I could put my friends into two groups, it's either friends who talk about sports, or friends who talk about TV, movies, and culture. And like the overlap of those people are really like my closest friends and people that work here, essentially. And so, yeah, I mean, I have a podcast where I talk about movies. I love to talk about movies. I love to go, the last movie I saw with folks was Black Bag. We went to go see that at Los Feliz 3. Just like a nice little time you get there, you watch a movie, then you talk about it

afterwards. It's a lost art. I like to see movies by myself because God forbid, like I like my friends, I love y'all, but there is something about walking up to the AMC, getting my Sour Patch Kid watermelon, my large Diet Coke, and maybe if I'm feeling a little froggy, some chicken tenders. And I go to the theater and I sit in my seat, which sometimes if I got a little extra bread on me, I buy the seat next to me so I can put my jacket on there so nobody sits next to me. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're AMC. Stuff, right? So I just go like, yo, let me just toss an extra 21, they ain't gonna get that anyway. Boom. Don't sit next to me.

You know what I'm saying? When I went to see Tenet, when Tenet came back out, I was like, yeah, I know I'm going to need this extra seat in the IMAX. Nobody bobbing me. I'm locked in on this cinema. And it was fantastic. That's awesome.

I didn't know we were in the presence of a 1%er over here. Jeez, Jomi. We got second seat money, bro. Listen, bro. Let me get some of that. Crazy. Let me hold onto some of that, bro. Crazy. What you mean, bro? I got it from you. We got second seat money bro What you mean bro, I got it from you you then won't meet the money

That was you That was all you body. Come on. I appreciate you. Hey appreciate you. Let me borrow your Lambo for the weekend, too My man, that was real nice. That was your kind of a Ferrari man myself, but we can roll with yeah Yeah, you know I'm saying like cuz you I That was real kind of you, man. I'm more of a Ferrari man myself, but we can roll with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? I mean, that's just a doorway, right? That was just for, you know what I'm saying? That was just for us. I appreciate you, man. Thank you, thank you.

Have you noticed, like, has the place of movies in your world changed at all? Are people paying more attention, less attention? Jack, have you always been going to rep theaters or is that like a new thing that's? That was a new thing moving to LA. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that was way harder in suburban New Jersey.

It's tough. I'm inclined to say that it's improving and growing, but it's difficult. Right, but you are also. I have blinders. Yeah. I'm in an echo chamber, whether it's the algorithm I've curated on social media, the friend group, or my place of work. It's hard for me to not say that.

Yeah. It's growing. Yeah. Jade, you mentioned two fairly recent like event movies. Can you think back or is that like a fairly new phenomenon of? Of like, of your friends, like you and your friends being like, we're going to make a date to go see this movie. I would say there was like, like high school, that was a big thing. Like we'd go to the movies all the time. Yeah. We recently talked about, yeah, the changes, Arc Light.

That was a great Arc Light. Yeah, it was a great Arc Light. Like we would definitely go to- They recently put those like school desk things like, you know, the... So you can eat? Yeah, so you can eat, but it's like you're at a school desk and it folds in and out. It's fairly confusing. But I would say like, again, it's kind of phases like high school, that was a big thing.

I went like to movies a little bit in college, but I was in DC, but it was like kind of rare. College is sort of... Yeah, college, you know, is the black box for that sort of thing. I went to movies a little bit in college, but I was in DC, but it was kind of rare. College is sort of a black lecture. Yeah, college is a black lecture. And then post-college, it was a lot of dates with my boyfriend, but friends would be here and there, parents would be here and there. So it kind of just varies depending on what's coming out. Got it. I have a question, and maybe I don't want to mean to stub your toes but talk about going to movies with people. I'm

sure that you've done this. You guys ever had to line up for a movie? Yes. Like the movie's coming out. There's no reserved seating. So you got to stand outside and wait for the movie. Not that I can remember. Not even growing up. But I also feel like I wasn't the kind of person or around people who would wait in line for a movie, have that kind of excitement for that experience. So I might just be an outlier. I think the last time I did, what was the movie that you did it for?

Last movie you did it for? I don't remember the last one, but I went to the Arrow a lot last year. And if you ever had a free RSVP, that didn't guarantee you a seat. So sometimes it would go early to get in line to make sure you'd get a seat. I mean, I remember lining up for the last movie I did it for was Civil War of Captain America Civil War. Let's not. I was going to say, I was like, right. Let's be for real.

Come on, let's be for real. But I remember going to Avengers Age of Ultron and getting there, it was a decent line, but my buddy was in the front. And so me and my group of friends, we, you know, hey, we cut the line, hey, what are we going to do? Yeah. And then the line like wrapped around the theater. Oh, wow. That doesn't happen anymore.

You mentioned the Arclight, I mean, you go to a theater, you book your seat, you're in there, you don't gotta think about it. But that was a time where, ah, the movie starts at 7.30, we gotta get there by 5.30, we gotta, you know, sit in the front. Right, right, right. Yeah, I do also wonder, again, now we all live

in Los Angeles where the theater experience is, you can't, you really can find a reserved seat though, you know, Oppenheimer was selling out here for three months afterwards. And that was different because you could reserve the seats, but it was, it was hard to get in for a very long time. You didn't answer whether you feel like You didn't answer whether you feel like movies are more or less important to like your social group than they were. It depends because again, like some of them are sports, some of them are movies. It is a thing when you're not locked in, you're not caught up and you're talking about, let's like, oh man, Mickey said the team was crazy.

I'm like, I'm not locked in. So you do feel this kind of pressure to be like, well, let me make time go to the theater so I'm not missing out. When it's an event type thing, like I mean, Barbenheimer was the whole experience, but you couldn't not be like, yeah, I'm not gonna go see Barbie.

I'm not gonna see Barbenheimer. That doesn't make any sense. I mean, people my age felt that way. It's just like a completely different aura about it. But you talk about like movies like these days, again, I use Mickey 17's example, because it's kind of polarizing. People have like differing opinions on it, whether it's good, Robert Pattinson, this and that, which and which.

And so you want to go make your own opinion, right? Are these people making sense? I like Robert Pattinson. His accent, this and this, whatever it may be. And so yeah, which you want to participate in that kind of conversation or that's in person on social media,

gotta go see the movie. Yeah. Okay, lightning round. What's the best movie you've seen in the last year, Jade? Ooh. Do you want to think about it? Yeah, I do. Okay, Jack.

Dune, Dune part two. Wow, okay. You're just coming in, Ooh. Do you want to think about it? Yeah. Okay. Jack. Dune part two. Wow. Okay. You're just coming in at your that is technically still calendar year. You know, it was March, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, it's close. I see what you're saying. Well, listen, I will allow it. Okay. Sorry. If we're counting Dune too, then the answer is Dune. Okay.

If we're not counting Dune too, what is it? Just for a variety's sake. I really liked Black Bag. So did I. A lot. I love- So does everyone who has seen it. I love Soderbergh, Ocean is one of my favorite films.

I, Kay Benchett and Michael Fassbender do their thing. If I had to pick one of the last year, I'd say that. Okay, great answer. Jade? I can't really remember all the movies I've watched this year, but I'll say Wicked. I only watched like six. I'll say Wicked.

I was gonna, yeah, just. I mean, that. Yeah, so go ahead, super fans review of Wicked. Oh, I loved it. I thought it was great. You know, they're pretty much on point with the whole entire script So it's like you kind of know it front and back. Right. Um singing was beautiful. I

Don't know some of the like Design of it. I was a little like, okay Maybe not my personal style, but I mean acting acting, singing, dancing, all great. Quick, quick, quick, wicked question. Can I hate Ariana Grande's character in that movie? Because I was mad. You were mad at her. You felt good.

Because she, she was doing, uh, uh, to the reverse character, crazy. Right. Yeah. Yeah. The whole movie. I think there is a point like that. I think there is a point like that her character is kind of meant to Make you feel like she is kind of right polar opposite to right there ops, right? Yes, and then they come together but the movie opens with her burning her homies effigy. I can't let that slide. I

Can't let that slide. Well, that's a, isn't that a preview of- Yeah, that's kind of, yeah, that's the kind of point to understand that their relationship is very complex and the way in which they get to that point is like you have to go back and see all of how it played out. It is wild. Including part two. Including part two, which you haven't seen yet. So- I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there.

I think you're, you're not wrong or you're not, your opinion isn't invalid in not liking Linda. Like there's a lot of people don't. And I think a point she is the kind of person, like the perspective in which wicked is made, you're supposed to like Elphaba. And you're supposed to see how Glinda treats Elphaba in this way and kind of grows into understanding her more. But then part two, which you'll find out,

like stuff happens. Apparently it's crazy. I mean, it's already happened, but like stuff happens where their relationship kind of gets compromised. How are you, Jade, super fan of Wicked and Wicked alumnus? Or what's this? Shiz?

What is it? Shiz, yeah, okay. Great, that was like a real my grandma. But that was more about Wicked. Shiz University. Do animals sing in part two? Be honest. Cause in part one, they're in that transition period of like, they're starting to lose their

voice. They can't really. So I'm trying to remember if in part two they sing, but I would say like maybe towards the beginning. But by the end, no. Are you looking forward to part two? Very much so. Do you have any concerns that among the wicked people, there is a belief that part two might not be as strong

in terms of songs as part one? Yeah, I agree. I think the stronger songs are in part one. So I do think for people who maybe don't have that much knowledge or have seen Wicked like that, the songs might be a little more dragged out, a little more,

because those songs are more for storytelling. I feel like the part one is more like, I'm just singing to felt and sing out and like, sure, you know, evoke an emotion. Whereas the songs in part two are more like, I'm telling this and I'm doing this and stuff like that. So I kind of agree with that, but I think if you like Wicked, you know the song.

So you'll enjoy it. Okay, I'm dreading it, but I'm happy for you. That's crazy. I, it's whatever, we're all being honest here. Jack, the best movie that you've seen in the last five years, this doesn't have to be exact. I think what I'm going for is- I thought it was the last five, last year. Well that was-

Oh, that was a previous question. Oh, this is another question. Yeah, this is a new one. Got you. Got you. What I'm going for here, you know, in your adulthood. Can I give you three? Yes, you may.

They'll be so fast. Everyone has to speak on them. Yeah, they'll be so fast. Worst person in your adulthood. Can I give you three? Yes, you may. They'll be so fast. They'll be so fast. Worst person in the world. Great pick. West Side Story. The Steven Spielberg question. Yes.

Yes. Okay. I thought we were only doing like last five years, the calendar with this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, and Tar. Love Tar. As you know, I love all of those. Have you seen the original West Side Story?

Yeah. Okay, good. All right, I just wanted to make sure. Both are very good. Jomi. Black Widow, Eternals, Spider-Man, No Way Home. No, I'm cheating. Uh, ooh, that's a good one.

Am I a loser if I say everything everywhere all at once? No, you're not. You won Best Picture. I think that was, again, one of those movies where it was like, oh, you got to see this one, you got to see this one. And I went to Alamo, I think, for the first time to watch it. And I was blown away.

Yeah, I think I've had to pick one movie the last five years. Is that one that you revisit? I've seen it once or twice on streaming. And it's not as magical the first time because you're not inhabiting the world for the first time. You get to learn the rules a little bit more. But it's still a lot of fun. It's still a lot of fun on a re-watch. No, but that is a great pick of going to the movies

and just having a completely immersive magical experience that then goes on to win Best Picture. Yeah, and then sometimes a lot of people win Best Supporting Actress. That might not have deserved it, but that's fine. That is true. That was really tough. Yeah, it's, you know what?

The Carrie Condon erasure is crazy. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Respect my Queen Angela Bassett. Oh, that's fair too. Either one would have been better. Probably. That's true. It's all true. Jade.

I don't have an answer for this one. Okay, so you haven't seen any movies that you're passionate about? I don't think so. That's a valid answer. I don't think so. That's a valid answer. I don't think so. That certainly says something about the state of movies. Yeah, like I can't like think of one that I,

like again, like I really enjoyed Wicked, but I can't think of one in the past five years where I was like, oh my God, like this changed my life. Well, there you go. That's your answer. That's my answer. When did In Game come out? 2019.

I was gonna say I really liked In Game. We can extent that's, I think that's bad. It's also, you know, five years sort of corresponds to that. I didn't intentionally do this, but it corresponds to the pandemic that obviously changed. And I was gonna say that too, because it's like, I, again, I do think that like, growing up, I was way more into movies, but like, kind of phased out of like, that kind of experience until things started opening up again, and we kind of started seeing more movies, but. And it's been real up and down. So, yeah, it's been, it's been interesting.

Okay. What movie, if any, Jane, you can pass again, are you most looking forward to? I mean, there's a whole summer full of stuff for me. I mean- Let's go, it could be 2010 all over again for you. Honestly. Yeah, it's beautiful. Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning,

Fantastic Four, First Steps, You Saw Me in the Merch, and Superman, all come outckoning, Fantasical Four First Steps, you saw me in the merch, and Superman. I'll come out with, like Superman and Fantasical Four come out within like two weeks, and then beginning of May, or the end of May, Mission Impossible comes out. I will be there no matter what. Like this means something to me, you know?

And so, I'm excited. That's why I keep that A-list around, you know what I mean? Cause I'm gonna be in the theaters. Jack? I can't lie, I'm really excited. That's why I keep that A-list around. You know what I mean? Because I'm being the theaters. Jack? I can't lie. I'm really excited. New West, new PTA, new Safdie, new Koganada, new Trier. Okay. Those are five heavy hitters. So that's like your bold, you want to share the names of those titles? I know what he just said. Sorry. I know what he's, I knew as well. I know what he just said. Sorry. I noticed.

I knew as well. Again, this is so funny, because we're, I don't know if you guys have seen that meme of John David Washington and his brother at the Criterion Closet. Your John David Washington's brother, like, yeah, man, I love the philosophical meaning of this film, man. And I'm John David Washington. Hey, Jackie Chan boxing.

Jackie Chan. You know. That's beautiful. Hey, Jackie Chan, box it! You know? That's beautiful. Yeah, share the full titles. The Phoenician Scheme is Wes's new movie, which we were supposed to. Yes, Wes Anderson. Sorry.

Which we were supposed to have a trailer. Still no trailer. Like I said, I don't know if I need a trailer. I know it's going to be a Wes Anderson movie that I love. I just want a little taste, you know? I know. I think we're getting too hooked on the trailers. One battle after another, Paul Thomas Anderson's new movie.

Great trailer. Yes, great trailer. Marty Supreme. Yes. Josh Safdie's, right? Josh Safdie's movie about a ping pong player starring Timothee Chalamet and Gwyneth Paltrow. There's already been some controversy about that film.

Yeah. A Big Bold Beautiful Journey, directed by Koganata. This will be starring Margot Robbie and Colin Farrell, two of our greatest actors. Yes, and it was recently moved to September and sort of Prime Awards. And he directed After Yang and Columbus, those first two first movies.

And then Sentimental Value, same director of The Worst Person in the World, will also be starring Renat Rensvi. Don't really know what it's about, but those two together I'm locked in. I think that's a great list. I think we're in store for great summer. I love this. I'm so locked in on your answers.

The next generation of big pickers is really... Love that. Big pickers. Yeah, big pickers is really... Yeah, the psychos are strong. Okay, Jayde, any movie? You don't have to look forward to a movie. No. If I see something that I see that sounds interesting. So my last question was going to be movies. Are we so over or so back?

And I think I know your answer. I'm in the middle, actually. I don't think they're over. Okay, that's great. I don't think they're over because I do think that there are moments when people who are not like movie heads like myself can get involved. Okay.

One of them days I was locked in incredible Barbie, Barbenheimer locked in. Yeah. Like I do think that there are waves of when movies come out, even like challengers, like, you know, like, I think there are periods where like people can really get into it. I think there are periods where people can really get into it. But I would say they're more big heavy hitters with big names. So the ones... All right.

So it's not... We're not so over. No. Jack, so over, so back. I think we'll never be as back as we once were, but it's definitely not over. Isn't that the way of life, Jack? It is. Yeah. I mean, I think the pandemic fast tracking every movie available at your fingertips at all times

accelerated this whole problem we're currently facing. But I just find it hard to believe that movies will ever be entirely erased from the culture. I just don't think it's going to happen. I was actually hoping for more optimism from you. But OK, Jomi, so over, so back. Amanda, movies have never, ever been so bad. Thank you so much. Thank you.

I can't. I mean, between my list of movies on the side of the floor, your list, we've got such a mix of things coming down the pipeline. Jade's like, you know, medium warm anticipation of Vick and Jude. Yeah, come on! That's the movie I'm looking forward to. I'm on Chris Ryan Odyssey watch. Yes.

Oh, as I are? Likewise. Like, we're getting like, you know, Tom Cruise is gonna make Top Gun Maverick until he's 175. Yup, exactly. is gonna make Top Gun Maverick until he's 175. You know what I mean? Like, as long as we, the movie people, stay watching these movies, going to theaters, stay watching movies,

the movie theaters will never die. And that's ultimately what matters. I actually have a question for you, Amin. Yes. Because you were talking about you grew up on the Disney princesses. Yeah. How are you feeling about this Snow White?

I didn't, I haven't even seen it because I grew up in the, I mean, this is the opposite of a Gen Z movie podcast and we'll, I guess we'll do like my diseased millennial brain podcast sometime along with Disney Princess Dad, Sean Fantasy. Yes. I don't feel good about it. I don't feel good about having been raised in that generation, but I've seen all of those movies 4,000 times. Yeah. Yeah.

So, and I don't really understand why they keep making those live action movies because- I do. Go ahead, Jomi. Red. Yeah, well, you know. Well, obviously. I think that's obvious, but like, yeah, like I agree.

Like I feel interesting. I feel weird about all these live action. Yeah. Okay. So you would like to be on Disney Princess Health when that happens? Yeah, like I don't think I'm personally gonna go and see it. Like I just don't have interest, but I was curious about your ideas with that.

Not good. You know, I would say in general being a millennial, I just, you know, I don't feel that great about it. This is, it's been way better to talk to you guys. So movies are back, millennials are not. Thank you, there we go. Listen, that's what we've learned. I'm sorry, Bobby, it's your birthday

and you're a cusp millennial, but it's just how it happens. Anyway, thank you to Jade, to Jomi, to Jack. For you guys were a wonderful sports. I really appreciate you. Thank you to Bobby Wagner for his work on this episode Later this week Sean is back and we will share a report from literally my first ever trip to Las Vegas I have never I have never been to Las Vegas you hit on me and I am going to Mario for We're gonna listen.

We will do this offline. Please, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't wait. We will do the report. Everyone, say a prayer for me. Is this on the ringer dime? Yeah. Oh my gosh, Amanda.

We'll see you next week. Cut the cameras. Thank you. Goodbye. Cut the cameras. Let's go, let's go business. Thanks for watching!