The Big Picture - The Harrison Ford Hall of Fame

Episode Date: June 27, 2023

Sean and Amanda are joined by Chris Ryan to discuss the life, legacy, and wonder of one of our great movie stars: Mr. Harrison Ford himself. On the cusp of the release of 'Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny,' it’s time to choose the 10 essential Harrison Ford films for our hall. Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Chris Ryan Producer: Bobby Wagner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Visit superstore.ca to get started. I'm Sean Fennessey. I'm Amanda Dobbins. And this is the Big Picture, a conversation show about Harrison Ford. Today, we're discussing the life, legacy, and wonder of one of our great movie stars, Mr. Harrison Ford himself, on the eve of the release of Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny and presumably the final indie film, it's time we chose 10 essential Harrison Ford films for our Hall of Fame

to help us do so. Our very own archaeological smuggler, Chris Ryan. Hello, Chris. Did you ever know anybody in school who majored in archaeology? I did not. And do you think that anyone who did a major in archaeology did it because of Indiana Jones? I did know people who are archaeology majors because I, well...

Because you went to such an amazing institution. No, because as I don't know whether you know that I was a classics major. I do know that. And so there was a subset. There was a professor who was like technically an archaeologist, but you couldn't really do a lot of archaeology, one in New Hampshire and two in the climate. Like I meant sociopolitical,

but also I think ecological climate where I attended college. So I didn't know someone. You go digging around in New Hampshire, you just find a bunch of Keystone Light cans. Yeah, exactly. That's true. But yeah, I think Indiana Jones was probably part of it.

Did you consider it? No. I just, I straight up did. So you didn't even have a bit ready for this prompt. I always knew that my life was going to be in the arts. I see. Yeah. And look at how far you've come.

I did want to address one thing quickly before we get into Harrison Ford, which is that yesterday, Chris, you informed me that you joined a gym. Yeah, yeah. That you- Wait, what? Yeah. Why is that a big deal? You informed me that you joined a gym. Yeah. Yeah. That you- Wait, what? Yeah. Why is that a big deal? You didn't tell me.

How am I learning about this now? This is where we update each other. Okay. All right. Tell me everything. Okay. So right before we began recording, I'm still getting over an illness, which listeners of this show may have heard last week on Mike.

And Chris noted that as we both get older, I will be getting weaker. Yes. And more sick bound. As Alice poisons you with her many diseases., I will be getting weaker and more sick bound. As Alice poisons you with her many diseases. And you will be getting what? Ripped. Ripped. Stronger and tighter.

Chris, you don't have to name the gym, but okay, let's start. National chain or local gym? Local gym. Mom and pop. Mom and pop. Are you working with someone there or is it self-directed? I think I probably will, but right now I'm just, it's like a self-education. Okay.

Much like my life has been. Follow-up question about this. Is it actually just a basement in a private residence? There's a guy who watches me on the treadmill. Is there a large German woman? All right. What's our program so far? What school of fitness? So far it's just cardio. I'm just trying to get in shape. I feel like Europe

took away a couple of years from my life and also added a couple of pounds. And I'm just trying to shed a little belly fat before it's beach season. Oh, really? Okay. I'm trying to get in the Harrison Ford state of mind. Exactly. One of our most ripped movie stars. Yeah. Okay. So just cardio. So far. Treadmill. Yeah. And steps. And oh, steps, but no elliptical. Not yet. Okay. How are your knees doing? This is literally this. I've gone twice. It's joined like Sunday. Yeah. Okay. My knees are fine. Everything's going great. Everything's fine. What's your vibe at the gym? Are you like, are you speaking with other people are you in and out fucking windhorst okay i was gonna say podcast or music is a big podcast i'm just like just keep saying damian lillard over and over again while i walk you don't like that what do you should i be listening to taylor's version i do think that people who list to listen to podcasts while

running specifically are psychotic i agree with, when do you listen to the watch? Running on the treadmill. When I'm driving. Running on the treadmill is music. Oh, I thought you always would go out for a jog and listen to it. No, no, no, no. I listen to music when I run. And then when I am driving or when I'm pushing my son around in the stroller forever,

I listen to the watch. You listen to me and you talk about erotica. Yes, exactly. Can I tell you how I listen to the watch? You don't. Alone in a room, hands folded quietly as soon as it's published. And I sit there until completion. I listen at 0.5 speed.

And then do you tap all the ads? I do. Just to make sure. I check in. I say, Chris sent me. Thank you for your service, CR and Andrew. Promo code watch. I do.

Please send me another SimpliSafe. Yep. And then I send several messages to the various message boards interested in your activities. Are they positive or are you the person

who's just like I like to flip back and forth. Like once again Chris brings the heat on the idol. Thank you sir. And then I go the other way and I say Chris is really

working overtime to defend this piece of garbage but I want there to be as much communication about you as possible in the world. Thanks. You remember the gym?

No. My husband wants me, which is like, well, partially, I just need to know literally everything. I'm actually not done with my Chris gym questioning, but we can like- I think we need to move it a little bit. We can do it halfway through. I just want to know about like future programs

and whether you contemplated strength training. I thought about boxing. I'm looking at the most ripped guy I know. So Bob, is there anything- When do you graduate to the RFK junior program? Oh,. I'm looking at the most ripped guy I know. So, Bob, is there anything... When do you graduate to the RFK Junior Program? Oh, where I'm just lifting in jeans? Yeah. Just only incline pressing, though.

And only six reps. So, are you a Bobby lifting truther that you think he was like... that he was struggle lifting and there was no way he was getting through that set and that they pretended like he had been crushing it? Yeah. Why wouldn't you take video of the whole thing?

Why wouldn't you post the video of the heaviest thing that you did? This is the arena that they constructed. Maybe he's just trying to be open.

If you ask me to question everything, I'm going to question your lifts. Yeah. Open and transparent with his lifts. I have two follow-ups. One, we'll be recording a movie auction

in about 10 days. And when we do so, we need a complete update on your progress. Do you want me to weigh in before I do it? I think you should. I think you should give us your vitals. I thought you were going to add like a push-up challenge since Bobby will also still be here,

right? Like a showdown versus Bobby? I would not recommend that for Chris. I didn't say that. All I was doing, I'm so bored of walking in my neighborhood that I just want to walk on a machine. That's literally like the impetus for this. I see. Have you considered interval training? I don't even know what that is. I'm really like, I have always been exactly the same person. I'm really invested in your beach body.

And so, can I be your trainer? I want to just do one more bout of inspiration for you. Let's actually share your vitals with us. We'll post them on social media. And then if you drop even one half of one pound, I will get a special dispensation from Daniel Ek that you can come to the office shirtless every day. What do you say?

Okay. I think I have that power. You've cast a lot of aspersions on the bulking pod, but look at that great conversation that we just had with Chris. So much potential. How much of it is about bulking and how much of it is about Chris? And how much of it is about Robert Kennedy Jr.? Wonderful timing. And now may be the time

to launch the show. Exactly. Now that lifting has hit the political space. I do, honestly, here is the formula for the show. It's you and Craig

talk Chris through his season of bulking and lifting. Exactly. And he brings back up to... That's right. Oh my God,

this would bring me and him even closer. Exactly. How do we pivot? How do we go to Harrison Ford now? Well, do you think Harrison Ford has to work out? Yes.

I don't. I think he is... Because, you know, famously Harrison Ford, 80 years old, legend of Hollywood, was a carpenter before he was a movie star.

Much like Jesus. Truly, much like Jesus. And plucked out of obscurity. Is that confirmed that Jesus was a carpenter or was Joseph a movie star. Much like Jesus. Truly, much like Jesus. And plucked out of obscurity. Is that confirmed that Jesus was a carpenter or was Joseph a carpenter and then they were like, didn't you talk about this

on the Grail pod? Let's go find the Grail and we'll tap into its infinite resources and we'll find out the answer to your question. I'm not sure if there, did Jesus exist?

Is it probably a bigger question? I mean, you don't get a lot of stories of him building things. He breaks tables he throws them right um but jesus or harrison jesus okay well i'm just saying but like in the texts they're recognized anyway i'm not as familiar with the the off uh label texts but in like king arthur the legend of king arthur no there are other no there are other

gospels that are not recognized gospels okay well there are sorry i'm a classics major oh excuse me you know what that could have been i think i think indiana jones probably knows about the unrecognized probably does okay um but yeah he doesn't, he's not really building a lot. Do you, so you think, or woodworking,

I should say. Despite Harrison Ford's, you know, a beautiful face. But do you think despite Harrison Ford's carpentry background, he still has to work out?

Because I think the implication is that this is a manly man, a representation of masculinity the likes of which we've never seen in a very insouciant way. Not overstating it. Not bulging muscles.

No RFK Jr. bullshit here. It's the kind of body that came out of America in the 60s and 70s when you just worked on your car and surfed. Which you don't relate to whatsoever. No, I mean, I long for it. I aspire for it. My car doesn't need any work. Or if it does, I just take it to a guy.

They don't let you in the cars anymore. You know what I mean? What do you mean they don't let you? You can't get into the restrictor plates anymore. Do you know what you're talking about right now? When did you first lay eyes on Harrison Ford? Do you remember? It's got to be The Fugitive.

I think because famously my parents didn't like sit me down at seven and say Amanda here's Star Wars But I think they would have been like hey, we're watching The Fugitive tonight, you know, and you're nine but whatever come on in So I the Fugitive looms large. It was the type of you know My parents watch Law and Order and and legal dramas and I got to watch all of them So they were interested in The Fitive as lawyers from the legal perspective. Yeah, and the enforcement of the law, sure. How do the federal marshals really operate? Exactly.

And then probably working backwards. But middle-aged Harrison Ford, which is interesting as we do the Hall of Fame because I just had a sensational time preparing for this podcast i gotta say you're really enjoying yourself i mean has anyone done it better like there was not a movie where i was like i don't really feel like watching that every single one just banger after banger like maybe the king of the rewatchables in my opinion that was going to be a question i asked you both yeah i i think so so but as i was doing that i like kept googling how old is harrison ford in this movie 38 40 42 45 50 what a guy

did your parents middle age pill you by making you attracted to older men and then 35 years later you only wanted to cite 70 somethings in your cool guys podcast i came up with it i thought a lot about that i took your feedback okay thank you and deemed it mostly wrong but it at least illuminated a quality of coolness to me which is i mean this is not rocket science. Confidence is like a, is a central part of actually being cool. And there's nothing more confident than a guy who has to get up 14 times in the middle of the night to urinate. Okay. So we're reflecting on ourselves there and we can work on some, you know, abdominal exercises if you want to do that. I don't know, but it's like a 28-year-old, the older you get,

the more insecure all young people seem. So, you know, you can see the cracks. So it is a bit of a sliding scale, but that's okay. Was it Indiana Jones or Han Solo? It was Han Solo. I was going to ask you, one of my prompts that I wrote down was when you close your eyes and you think of Harrison Ford, what character are you seeing? Han holding the blaster. That's exactly what I see. But that doesn't mean that that's his definitive performance or whatever. It's just like that was how I was introduced

to him and that was, I think him and Bill Murray. I was like those are the two poles of my existence. Bill Murray is the funniest person I've ever seen and Harrison Ford is the coolest person I've ever seen in the 80s. Probably pretty close for me as well. It's interesting though as you get older

and you start to think about, even if not his best performances, the ones that maybe start to mean more because I re-watched Star Wars for this podcast, which you're welcome everybody. I watched Star Wars, A New Hope, and it just takes too long for Han to show up. I'm just going to put that out there. I just could have used him a little sooner in the movie.

It's like 35 minutes in? And for the first time in my life, I was like, is Star Wars A New Hope good? Oh, come on. Are you serious? Well, it was the first time I really felt its age. Of course, it's good. It's amazing.

But it looked different on my TV. Its pace felt a little different to me. This is what you're bringing to the start of the Harrison Ford episode? No, no. I don't know if it was you or who is good. Do you want me to talk more about the non-canonical gospels? Like, what are we doing here? I'm not trying to cast aspersions on Star Wars.

I think it's the first time, though, that I felt something that I've heard other people say, which is that those movies now feel like they were made 50 years ago, which they effectively were. Essentially were. And now it's equivalent to when Star Wars came out seeing the jazz singer for the first time.

You know, it's like, wow, that's a radically different version of... Now, the stories are very similar to what we see today, but Harrison Ford in the movie has not aged a day. I mean, that performance

is still perfect. And he's just perfect. He's doing Rio Bravo. It's like a classical cool guy. Dean Martin, yeah. What makes him a classical cool guy. Dean Martin. Yeah. What makes him special in your eyes? Charisma.

I mean, obviously, he's also incredibly handsome and has had a pretty great track record, or it did at least for 25 years of picking the right projects, which is important. And it's very funny and cool, as Chris said, but there's just like a screen presence. There is like some sort of energy that's around him that draws everyone, including me, to him. What about for you? I think he makes the impossible plausible. I think he is like an everyman capable of anything.

And so that's like, you watch his big, he's the president. He's a guy who jumps off of a dam. He is Han Solo. He finds the grail. He does things you can't do, but he looks like a guy you might see on the street in Chicago doing it

or a guy you might see teaching in a class or working at a bar. I mean, if you walked into a bar and Harrison Ford at age 48 was bartending holy shit there you go yeah you know would it matter that he was just a bartender no i mean throw it all away take care of nox you're living with grandma and grandpa now um no that's the thing there's just a charge around him yeah you know and like and a lot of the characters that

he plays are to chris's point like implausible or unremarkable or just average you know people until harrison ford like brings the magic along yeah he can sell a lot of absolutely ridiculous dialogue he can sell a lot of completely silly and he is like the tiniest bit in on the joke you know there's a little bit of self-awareness but still committing to the situation you just want to be around him yeah i had a lot of fun revisiting some of the 90s movies because it's at that time that he's really playing with his screen persona and what the expectations of him are and i'm not sure if that was because he was a little bored with his persona

or he was just trying to mix things up, try different genres, but he seems to always have a consciousness. And even though Han Solo and Indiana Jones are these outlandish, larger-than-life iconic roles, most of his other movies, he's basically playing a cop, a lawyer, a doctor, these very kind of typical American male jobs.

It's probably, I was trying to think of all the Hall of Fames that you guys have done, that I've done with you, or even just the sort of long form actor surveys that we've done, how unique he is in that. He doesn't really have a one for the books Academy Award winning performance track record. It's not like he's like, oh, and he did Panic in Needle Park and Serpico and then did like movie star roles. It's like he has basically been a movie star since you see him in American Graffiti. You're like, well, that's fucking happening.

You know, like this guy is like, you know, he pops right off the screen. He's done, he's basically kind of invents franchise acting in some ways. And he never has really even been in the conversation for an award, has he? He's been nominated for an Oscar once. It is an absolute fucking travesty. Was it Witness? It was Witness. It was Witness, which I can't wait to talk about.

It will come up, yeah. There are a few roles in the 1980s where it is a little confusing why he is not nominated. No, I think he is not recognized for a lot of the genre stuff that he does. And you can make the case retroactively that the Oscars historically overlooks those kinds of movies. But that, you know,

crafting the Indiana Jones character is a major work of movie making. You know, it's like, it's critical to the history of movies and is worthy of those conversations. But those movies are not usually recognized. I do think he's overlooked a couple times, though, in the 80s and 90s for parts that...

Even in something as mainstream as The Fugitive, it's like Tommy Lee Jones won for The Fugitive and Harrison Ford wasn't even nominated. So I don't know if that's... Was Michael Douglas nominated for Fatal Attraction? I don't think so. I was going to say, because Harrison Ford, you could make the argument

he should have been nominated for Presumed Innocent. Yeah. Oh, definitely. I hear an argument about it. We will get to that. I got to answer the Michael Douglas question now that you asked it. No, he wasn't. He wasn't nominated at all.

He does have two Oscars, though. Can you remember which two Oscars Michael Douglas has? Wall Street. Wall Street for Best Actor. What's his other Oscar? China Syndrome. Oh, no. He got a Best Picture, didn't he?

He did. For producing... One Flew Over the Cuckoo's nest that's correct yeah uh that's a great trivia question okay do you want to do you want to start is there anything else we should say about he's been quite a few films i've seen all of them except for the first two i think i've seen most of them i couldn't revisit all of them because there were so many but it was really fun i gotta tell you between toggling between this and then Mission Impossible prep, because Mission Impossible is on the horizon, just what a time to be a student of popular 80s and 90s cinema.

You know what I'm saying? Just we really, we came of age in the best time. Well, and you could kind of see that reflected in Harrison's IMDb. It's true. Where he's just blossoming in the 80s and 90s, and then like many of us, had a tough 2000s. Yeah, we will get to that. Oh, I wanted to ask a question.

Yeah. Do we want to have any restrictions on how many times we go back to any franchise wells? I'm glad you asked this question. I am open-minded about this. I think it's a complicated issue because you can make the case that we are 60% done with this exercise off the rip

because we have three Star Wars films and three Indiana Jones movies that are massively critical to his career in Hall of Fame. So if we want to have a little bit wider aperture here, we just say one Star Wars movie and one indie movie. That's boring. I think we need to go each one on its merits. That is a hardcore Last Crusade fan

who desperately wants Last Crusade. Yeah, you've got two people across the table from you who are interested in the Grail and also blimps, you know? Oh, are you into blimps? Yeah. I told you I was with, I think, I think that a restaurant on a blimp sounds like a great way to spend a Saturday. So, but only as like a leisure activity, not as a transportation.

I did have one note for you on that podcast, which was that you kept confusing the concept of 125 miles an hour and 125 miles a day. He really threw me off by being like, I do not care for the cup of Christ. And I also don't want luxury in my travel. Right. Knox, I'm so sorry. But mommy went to a blimp restaurant and died in a fire. And Uncle Sean and Aunt Eileen are taking care of you now.

How do you feel about that? Where's Zach? He was the restaurant. He was at the restaurant. He was on a blimp. Yeah, because we went to him. He didn't warrant an instruction. Yeah, Zach. Zach likes adventure.

We're erasing him now. Mommy, Amanda, and that guy who's always around. This is a public service announcement and a desperate plea. Do not go on a blimp. I'm begging you. Do not get on a blimp.

They have updated the technology in almost 100 years. The Google guy is building blimps? Yeah, exactly. We just watched the inversion of this at the bottom of the ocean. All due respect, I do think that the Google guy probably has a little bit more going for him than the dude who's just like, I'm building my own sub. I'm not prepared to cast aspersions on the Google guy, but careful. Okay.

Careful siding with big tech on these issues. We've seen this go badly before. That's all I'm saying. Just don't get on blimps, okay? All right. So you say no restrictions whatsoever. I think it needs to be

a case-by-case basis. All right. Bobby, what do you think? I agree. Case-by-case basis. I think if you decide in advance that there's only going to be one, then it just takes away

a lot of the conversation about which ones deserve to be doubled up on. Are you done with that? Yeah. Let's begin the Hall of Fame. All right. How do you, do you,

typically do you guys just go chronologically through the filmography? We do. We do. Okay. Do you, would you like to suggest another method? Um, no. Okay.

What we do is we go chronologically and we, you know, strike something out. You can give something a yellow, which is like a maybe. Okay. And then you can give something a solid green. I think I haven't done this since Deacons. No, you did Tom Cruise with us. Oh, that's right.

And then we had a cruise cake at the completion of that. Oh my God, that was so good. Which was very nice. That was right post-pandemic, wasn't it? Yeah. Would it be so crazy if you hadn't been invited back since Deacons? Like on the podcast at all? And this had not been the big picture? Well, for a Hall of Fame. Yeah. I like be so crazy if he hadn't been invited back since Deakins? Like on the podcast at all? And this had not been the big picture?

Well, for a Hall of Fame. Yeah. I like Hall of Fames. I do. Thanks for weighing in. Yeah. Let's have one. Okay.

1967, A Time for Killing. This is a small role, his first role, after performing in Summer Stock in the mid-60s. Ford, you know, born in Chicago, moves to Los Angeles to pursue a career in acting. I assume you guys have not seen A Time for Killing?

Sorry. I have not. Have you seen Journey to Shiloh? I have not. Is that a Civil War Western? I'm not sure.

I haven't seen this. I haven't seen these first two movies. It's shortly. A group of Texas cowboys leave home to help the Confederate Army in Tennessee.

Along the way, they learn tough lessons about the realities of war. There's a lot of movies like that. Where they're like, you know what's great? It's these five Confederate soldiers. Harrison Ford is eighth build in this film, which stars James Caan, Michael Sarazin, and Jan Michael Vincent. Oh. Actually sounds pretty good.

Okay. So, A Time for Killing and Journey to Shiloh are out. Have you guys seen Getting Straight? I haven't. I have not. Getting Straight is a really fun movie. It's a little bit hard to see these days. It's directed by Richard Rush,

who also made The Stuntman. It stars Elliot Gould and Candace Bergen. Oh, that's fun. It's a comedy about a graduate student in kind of counterculture America who is kind of rejecting authority at every turn. It's right in the midst of like just as MASH is happening and right before Long Goodbye and kind of the peak of the Elliot Gould moment. I think Harrison Ford plays

like a wise-ass student, which I think is instructive as we start to get into the early stages of his career because the next big part that he gets, of course, is as Bob Falfa in American Graffiti, which I think is an interesting movie for him because he's, of course, kind of the villain of this movie. And he's very smug. And Harrison Ford can be very smug. And when he was young, he was not quite as effective, I think to your point, about 28-year-olds. And I think he was almost exactly like 29 when he made this movie, there being like an insecurity to the confidence. And as he gets older, he's able to tap into that kind of dash and quality that he had.

Did you revisit American Graffiti? I did. Well, I revisited the Harrison Ford scenes. The counter argument to what you just said is he's so beautiful. He's very, very beautiful. Just hanging out of the car. And there is an insecurity to all of the characters, but he is, in many ways, the most confident of the young men on screen, both in the character and also in the performance.

As Chris said, he's like leaning out of that car and you're like, oh, there's a movie star. You can see a lot of it laid out before you. This is the breakthrough role, sort of. Where this is like the first moment. So typically we like to put breakthroughs in the Hall of Fame. We can yellow it. Is it a big enough part? Exactly. So we can yellow it. It's significant.

I think that his work in this and two other films can be grouped together. We can pick something from them. So it's this. Do you want me to say the movie? You can say the conversation apocalypse now. Yeah. Which are supporting parts, not even necessarily critical parts to the movie, but he is unmistakable

in them. In part because he's Harrison Ford, but in part because he's bringing something to the screen where he's almost demagnetizing the other movie star when you're looking at him and you're like, wait, go back to him. And then they don't necessarily go back to him. I was going to say that, to your point about him jumping off the screen, that in that drag race scene in American Graffiti,

I can't remember who he's racing, but whoever it is, I think has a larger part than Harrison Ford. I assume it's Paul and Matt, right? Yeah, but they shoot Harrison Ford so that he's in the driver's window, he's

closer to the camera, and the person he's acting against is like far off camera in the dark. And it's like George Lucas is even like, that's the motherfucking guy right here. It's like, we got to have him popping out like pre Wooderson, just like really dealing. And like the, one of the bigger parts of the film is like obscured in shadow and not

really even participating. Right. Notable that neither Paula Matt nor Richard Dreyfuss nor Ron Howard were cast as Han Solo four years later in Star Wars, but in fact Harrison Ford was. I accept a yellow. I think that's right. We could come back and say that this is essential to his myth. It's hard to say because we have a long way to go. Yes. One year later, 1974, The Conversation. Francis Ford Coppola, in the midst of perhaps the most iconic five-year period in American movies, makes The Conversation between two godfather movies. Pretty cool.

Absolutely insane. Pretty minor part. I think it's hard to put it in. Very cool scene, though. I would like to do this movie on the rewatchables. Oh, yeah. Me too. Do you think that's something that would happen? Yeah. I think he's very into paranoid Paranoid Thrillers and Gene Hackman.

Okay. Did you revisit this? I did. Well, I revisited the Harrison Ford scenes. And then I watched like the, you know, some of the classic scenes. Okay. Let's just say the conversation is out for now. I think that's probably right.

1977. Three years go by. Star Wars A New Hope. Han Solo directed by George Lucas. The beginning of the most significant piece of pop culture entertainment of the last five decades probably, right?

Automatically in, right? Bobby already made it green. No one said anything, but Bobby has already updated it. Yeah. I have a quote from this movie is my yearbook quote what was it uh is it about the Kessel Run I've seen a lot of things like it's like but when he's talking about the like when he's first confronted with the force and he's like yeah I don't know about that who shot first Greedo or Han what's the argument that Han shot first and that it was like so that makes it a micro aggression on his part or what I think it's more of a

macro like a murder him yeah yeah I like do like the idea of murdering someone being a micro aggression in the Star Wars universe is compared to like blowing up Alderaan you know okay now we go to a couple of more obscure films

from this period I would say largely overlooked performances and movies that are interesting little time capsules for him. 1977, we also get Heroes, which is a movie starring Henry Winkler and Sally Field about a Vietnam vet. Kind of in that, it's like a soft version of Coming Home. Feels pretty easy to overlook this one in the Hall of Fame, right?

I agree. I enjoy Force 10 from Navarone, but I wouldn't make the case that it should one in the Hall of Fame, right? Yeah. I agree. I enjoy Force 10 from Navarone, but I wouldn't make the case that it should go in the Hall of Fame. Yeah. Another action war movie. He appears in a bunch of action war movies like this. We'll get to another one very shortly that I had a lot of fun revisiting. I don't think it's worthy of going in, though.

1979, Hanover Street. I'd never seen this movie before. I watched it two days ago. Really good. Peter Himes. I watched it two days ago. Really good. Peter Himes, classic. Here's the setup. You will love this movie.

Leslie Ann Down and Harrison Ford. She's a British woman at the height of World War II. He's an American officer, a pilot. They meet on the street randomly as they're both trying

to catch a bus and neither one of them catches the bus and they fall in love. Very soon we realize that Leslie Ann Down is actually married and a mother. And she's married to Christopher Plummer. And is he a Nazi?

He is a British MI6 agent. Okay. Well, I think my version could have been better. MI5? He's not a Nazi. Well, sorry. No, but that plays into this. Over the course of time,

we see Harrison Ford's character. And they kind of, they had this illicit affair over a period of time during the war. And simultaneously, Christopher Plummer's character is working as a spy trying to infiltrate Nazi intelligence. Circumstances eventually lead to Harrison Ford and Christopher Plummer's characters crossing paths on a mission. Oh. In a good way? Well, in a complicated way. Yeah.

But it is an epic classical romance. Isrison ford an american okay and christopher plumber plays a german-speaking british right yeah so he does become a nazi well it is okay yeah film is shot beautifully incredible costumes a john barry score to die for, as good as any Bond score. I can't believe I've never seen this. It's on Amazon Prime right now.

Wow, really? For free. I feel like this is one of, I had never seen this movie before and I really like Peter Himes movies and it just never

even appeared on my radar. So if you get nothing else out of this podcast, check out Hanover Street. Why don't you put it in yellow? We just don't have room for it.

It's not quite there. Okay. But as far as surprises go, this was an incredible surprise. Okay. And it's also, for both of you guys, it is right in your

sweet spot of interest. I'm really excited. Great. Now that I've oversold it, you'll be disappointed. It's only one scene here. In Apocalypse Now. I would like to put this in yellow.

Okay. Because he is a badass. Explain Harrison Ford's role in this film. He's the guy who's telling Willard where he has to go and what he has to do. And it's like a nothing throwaway part. And it's also an atypical Harrison Ford part because he's a sweaty twerp. But it's very cool. And I like it a lot.

I just want to put it in yellow. I don't think it's going to actually end up in the Hall of Fame. But I'd like to invite it to the pre-opening ceremony. I like your enthusiasm. Okay. 1979, The Frisco Kid. Also a very overlooked

or underseen movie. Also from a very well-known filmmaker, Robert Aldrich. Made the Dirty Dozen among many other movies. Starring, really at the height of his powers, Gene Wilder

and Ford as a, I think a rabbi and a cowboy starring, really at the height of his powers, Gene Wilder and Ford, as, I think, a rabbi and a cowboy traveling to San Francisco. In the Old West? In the Old West. Completely doesn't work. Reminded me a lot of Mike Nichols' The Fortune, where it's like,

they're going for a very specific tone, and they missed the tone. And so if you have like a period piece comedy with a wonky tone it's not great so i feel like it's safe to say this movie is not in now this is the the last movie for a while that is an automatic no yeah right wow so we have two yellows and one green we're about to do right two yellows and one green two yellows and one green and we're going to 1980 and the Empire Strikes Back. Mm-hmm. Now,

I liked the restriction rule because it's hard to not put Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi in. But then, I think that that makes this less fun. I mean,

Empire Strikes Back is critical for his... You have to do Empire Strikes Back. Yes. In part because of the ending. I know. Yes. Yeah. Okay.

So, Empire Strikes Back, I don't have... When we get to Return of the Jedi... But you haven't part because of the ending. I know. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So Empire Strikes Back, I don't have, we can, when we get to Return of the Jedi. But you haven't seen Return of the Jedi. Yes, I have. So how can you have an opinion about it? I've seen Return of the Jedi.

They win. The best, my favorite Han Solo line is in Return of the Jedi. Okay. Well, we're not there yet. We're Empire Strikes Back. When Luke is like,

okay, I'll wait. All right. Empire Strikes Back is a yes. Empire Strikes Back is green. Automatically green. Raiders of the Lost Ark is green. Raiders of the Lost Ark is green. Blade Runner is green. Blade Runner is green. Do you want to say anything green Raiders of the Lost Ark is green Raiders of the Lost Ark is green Blade Runner is green Blade Runner is green do you want to say

anything about Raiders of the Lost Ark or Blade Runner I'll say about Blade Runner that regardless of the version of Blade Runner you were watching and how much voiceover you were seeing or hearing and how many endings you have watched he is just still

fucking Humphrey Bogart in this movie and it works and it's awesome. And I love this movie. And it's a little dull sometimes. It is. But that's okay. Which version do you consider the completed version? The one where Ridley Scott has me over to his house

and first we watch his extended cut of Kingdom of Heaven and then we watch his personal cut of Blade Runner and then he whispers into my ear what was going on with Jared Leto in Blade Runner 2049. Even though he didn't direct it. In this very real circumstance, are you wearing clothes or not? Like a toga. You know? Just came from the gym.

Yeah, I just came from the gym and I'm dressed up like a gladiator. Do you have like any time or relationship to Blade Runner? Aside from acknowledging it's kind of essential. Did it inspire you to move to Los Angeles? Yes, how did you know? I'll tell you in February, LA looked a lot like Blade Runner. Yes, I do have a relationship to it.

And the fact that I live here and it's still in terms of you turn a corner and Los Angeles looks a certain way like Blade Runner is one of like the three references especially for the six months of the year where we don't have sunshine not to sound like Andy I'm sorry I also just wanted to say on a side note remember when you were just like this episode of the idol was film noir and I just really I thought you were trying really hard. And that's what I love about you, Chris Ryan. Every day, I punch the clock. Yeah.

Yeah, of course Blade Runner is. I would say for me, it's more like the visual reference than the Harrison Ford performance that it like stays with me. But I don't know. You got to have this in his Hall of Fame. Swap Kevin Costner or Gene Hackman or Dennis Quaid into Blade Runner. Significantly worse. Pretty similar.

I don't know. Goofier. Gene Hackman couldn't do the haircut. Okay. I'm not sure that's critical to the role. Dennis Quaid's too goofy. I think it's pretty critical to the role. Like his look is very critical.

Okay. And Costner is taking it a little too seriously. There's sort of a detachment to Harrison Ford that is quite appealing to me, another emotionally detached person. Essential to that character. But also essential to that character in the way that you move through the world. Yeah, I don't know if Costner could be a replicant. How about this? Sam Shepard.

Oh, well, I do love... A little tooicant. How about this? Sam Shepard. Oh, well. A little too soulful. Tom Skerritt? No. Was Harrison Ford up for Alien? Did we talk about that? Was that in the mix? Who was the person who turned down Dallas?

I think it was Steve Guttenberg. Yeah, probably the Goot. I don't know. I don't remember. Okay. Could have been. No, that would have been something. To just remove Hanover Street and slide Alien in there.

Jesus Christ. That would have been quite a CV for Harrison. Okay, Blade Runner. Of course, a film I love. So now we're at four greens. Four greens and two yellows. And we've got Return of the Jedi from 1983. I think that he's more important and better in Star Wars

and in New Hope and Empire Strikes Back. I just want to note that every single time I land and start going in from the Philadelphia International Airport towards my house, I think of the exchange that Luke and Han have where Han has just regained his vision because he's been unfrozen from carbon freezing. And Luke's

like, I was born here, you know. And Han goes, you're going to die here, you know. Pretty great. Make the case against. It's boring to have all three. Is he in this movie enough? Does he do enough stuff in Jedi? He goes to Andor, right?

Yeah, I mean, he's critical in the fight in Andor, yeah. I'm not sure. I don't think so. Well, I think of the three, it's the least. Successful film? The least essential Harrison Ford? Least essential Harrison Ford. I think he's almost, I would argue that he's more important and better in Force Awakens.

Ooh. Than he is in Jedi. Ooh. Now that's a take. That's why I'm here. That's why I got a coffee. I was here on time. I brought bagels.

And I'm here to tell you that he is better in Force Awakens than he is in Jedi. He and Adam Driver squaring off. It's really beautiful. We will get there. Okay. Return of the Jedi is yellow. Okay. Okay.

1984, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. A film that has been catching many astray here on The Ringer Podcast Network and elsewhere. About to catch another. You're saying out. I don't think he's very good in this movie. He's better in Crystal Skull. I think that that is a fair take. I feel like they made a bold choice to shift the character's tone in this movie that didn't work.

And then they course correct when we get to The Last Crusade. You agree with that? I do. Yeah. I mean, this movie is just also technically impressive. And otherwise, every single decision is just off. Like, the Kate Capshaw character is just really annoying. A little shrill. Yeah.

It's mean-spirited. It's bad vibes. And that extends to him. So we're just dismissing it. Red? Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. vibes and that extends to him so we've just we're just dismissing it red indiana jones in the temple of doom one of the most successful and beloved movies of the 1980s red it's our hall of fame red all right let's continue 1985 witness green i mean i'm i'm doing it this this reps amish country so i'm in because you're amish no because this is the... 30th Street Station is in this movie.

I have to go for it. Yo, this scene in the barn with the dancing. Is this the hottest anyone's ever been? It's up there. It's really, really powerful. This has to be rewatchable. I was doing this on another episode of The Big Picture, but you guys just got to make him do it.

I know that this is a celebrated movie. I know that Harrison Ford was nominated for an Oscar for this. It was a big box office hit. Yeah, I like, I know it's a thing, but it feels slightly lost to time. It definitely is, yeah. It's like a little bit early and has not, you know, entered the lexicon the way a lot of 90s movies of a similar vibe have. Also, we're just not respecting Peter Weir enough in our day-to-day lives. I do.

I know that you do. Yeah. And Sean, you do too. Peter Weir? I love Peter Weir. No, I know. But just as a society, is it just that this was like five years too early for all of us to like fully pop culture cannibalize it? I think it's like it is that kind of five year difference between this trio too, where there's like, you were probably just old enough to have seen it at a relatively contemporaneous time. Because it was like, I think my dad was like, I don't covering it, but like, I'm sure my dad was like, they're shooting a Harrison Ford movie in and around Philadelphia.

Right. Which is a pretty big deal. And I was three when this was happening and you were one. And also there's a lot of sex in this movie or there's some sex in this movie. So I remember it being like a little bit more of like romantic. There's not that much actual sex though. There's just sexual tension. Yeah.

That's because we used to be a fucking country. You know what I'm saying? Blackened eyes with Kelly McGillis. Exactly. What a run for her. The interesting thing about this movie is, this is the first movie in his career that is set in contemporary times.

Oh, shit, Sean. And that becomes a critical thing for him because most of his work after this is more or less in our modern times. But everything is either in the future Until K-19

The Widowmaker. Yeah. No, that's a period piece. That's a 1960s movie. I mean, this is all contemporary but the fact that he lives with the Amish

for a while gives him a nice little bridge. Still fucking Danny Glover. That's true. Yeah also another like really beautiful scene that has almost nothing to do with Harrison Ford except for him being a carpenter is like the barn raising scene where they I mean just a very good scene. Again let Peter Ware cook.

Yeah. And you can also see Harrison Ford actually like hammering things in and he's so happy and I'm happy for him. So I've it's a great physical performance, but in a different way than him punching people, which he does quite well. And just so,

so handsome. It's 1985 and we're halfway done. I'm a little concerned. Let's see. So I'll just say for myself, I, I have no,

nothing negative to say about Witness. It was just never one of my movies. I think I've said that to you before. It might have just been not seen until a lot later. I did not. What I did rewatch was the next movie, which is he makes two movies in a row with Peter Weir. And this was probably my favorite revisit, which is The Mosquito Coast, which is a fascinating movie. I would make the case perhaps Harrison Ford's best performance because it is the least Harrison Ford iconography at play. Maybe the most dialogue he's ever had in a movie. He plays a kind of harebrained inventor who takes his whole family and moves them from the United

States of America because he's become disgruntled with what he believes America has become to a small island where they will kind of restart their own civilization. He will use his intelligence to build a new vision of society. The movie is very dark and very cynical and sad and written by, of course,

Paul Schrader. And so there are obvious reasons why I connected to it. But for Harrison Ford, it's so interesting that he would be nominated for Witness, but not nominated for this movie. Now, this movie was not a hit. Yeah.

And was not loved. And if you say it's River Phoenix is the kid. River Phoenix is his son. Helen Mirren. Helen Mirren is his wife. Do you think Helen Mirren listens to this podcast? It's possible. Okay.

It's entirely possible. I enjoy the Helen Mirren bit, but I can assure you, Helen Mirren has never heard your voice under any circumstance. She's probably waiting anxiously to find out whether 1923 is eligible for the Harrison Ford Hall of Fame. We have bad news for her. Yeah, and there's a single tear rolling down her cheek as she hears you say that. Now, I, in good conscience, can't put the Mosquito Coast into the Hall of Fame, but I, much like Chris, demand a yellow because I think it's his best work. Great. I think a yellow is wonderful.

I don't agree that it's his best work. I revisited it as well. But I think he's very good. Would you be interested in starting a new civilization? With Harrison Ford? Yes. With 1986 Harrison Ford? If it were 1986 Harrison Ford I

if it were 1986 Harrison Ford but with 1985 witness Harrison Ford grooming

I see his hair is quite long in Mosquito Coast wire rim glasses yeah not a fan of the Mosquito Coast I like the Mosquito Coast

I'm more of a witness person and I actually problematically very much enjoy this next film 1988's frantic directed by roman polanski a psychological thriller about confused identity in europe and jet lag uh did you did you recreate the story of frantic as you returned i did not fromjourn but I mean this is this is just like Robert Towne wrote it Annie O'Morricone

does the soundtrack incredible score it's a Hitchcock thriller about a guy looking for his wife in Paris why did he

just want to make a lot of neo-noirs at this time why did he I guess maybe the Blade Runner experience did you re-watch this did you check this out no I didn maybe the Blade Runner experience. Did you rewatch this? Did you check this out?

No, I didn't. You recapped it for me. And I forgot. It's not the easiest movie to see these days. Although maybe it is streaming somewhere right now. But it has not been in wide circulation, of course, because of the controversies and problems. I would just say to people, it's basically a combination of presumed innocent and fugitive. So if you haven't seen it, that's what this movie is.

Essentially, the vibe, it's on. And I think that he thinks he's doing what Cary Grant did with Hitchcock, which is playing a dashing man in a lot of trouble. Not in? I would say no, but I like this movie.

This is a pretty thrilling film. Frantic is Red. The counterweight in 1988 to Frantic is Working Girl. Mike Nichols' film. Has anything been more green? Well, is Harrison Ford the third most important character in the film? Interesting. The fourth most important character in the film?

Here's the thing. Working Girl is one of my favorite movies. Just one of my absolute favorite movies. If there are any programmers listening who will let me host a screening of this one, Working Girl is one of my favorite movies. Just one of my absolute favorite movies. If there are any programmers listening who will let me host a screening of this one, you guys put out your request, which led to a lovely time at the Prince Charles Cinema. I want to spread the gospel of Working Girl. He's a supporting character in this film.

It's delightful. And one of the things I like about it is that Harrison Ford is just willing to show up and be hot and charming and just sit on the side and be like a little goofy and follow where Melanie Griffith and Sigourney Weaver and Joan Cusack want to go. So I'm okay with not putting it in. It's in my hall of fame of life, i would we can make it yellow for now if that works and then i would also say i wish he had done more stuff like this especially as his star waned i think that he insisted on i mean like in later in life he starts doing like i'm just the supporting actor in this but i wish he had done this earlier i think nicholson really nailed this the way he was just like i'll just do terms of endearment yeah fuck off well it's i'll do reds it's the start of a series of interesting romance choices for him throughout the rest of

his career and something he becomes very interested in but you're right that he sort of insists upon being at the center of the frame and most of these other oncoming romances and this movie is really bolstered by the fact that when we turn and look to see who melanie griffith is interested in, it's this guy. Yeah. And to me, like, the performance is fine. Like, it's okay.

The movie's great. But it's not, it kind of doesn't live or die by him. You could have put in Kevin Costner in here and it would have been fine. Again, not quite. Because there is something, there's the Harrison Ford, like, aura. And also he's just kind of like slightly bemused and going along with it both as Harrison Ford and then as Jack Traynor the character where he's just kind of like okay I don't know who this person is but you know we're gonna like we'll go along and there's that funny scene where he goes back to his office and like changes shirts and

doesn't close the blinds. And then like the whole, all the secretaries start like clapping at him and he like, you know, bows. And it's a nod to literally what Harrison Ford is doing in that movie. And I don't know that everyone has the same like sense of humor about it. So I don't know. I think it's essential that it's him, but it doesn't have to be his hall of fame that's the power of harrison harrison ford 1989 indiana jones and the last crusade amanda chris and i have had nearly two hours of time to speak on this green light for you let's let's hear it so now

i just i have to defend like the grail and blimps and like all of western civilization I know but you just put it on me like I meant you gotta do this I meant you can talk about the last crusade and Harrison Ford what's up with all

these little grail babies who are just like I don't want my grail why can't I have my grail what's up with you hating reading can we talk about that is turning out

kind of weird for you what is the second half of 2023 how so you're just being real trolly you know I miss Sean's passions what are Sean's passions yeah remember when you were just telling us for you. What is? The second half of 2023. How so? You're just being real troll-y. You know?

No. I miss Sean's passions. What are Sean's passions? Yeah, remember when you were just telling us about Hanover Street? That was really nice. Yeah, that sounded lovely. What about enthusiasm?

Remember the Blu-ray episode where you just talked about Blu-rays for an hour and a half? So you only want me to be positive. No, but I think you need to mix it up. You gotta balance it out. You're like,

the Grail sucks. Fuck Christopher Nolan. Yeah, but also- I didn't say either of those things. Here are some recent- I did not say either of those things. Here are some recent takes of Sean Fennessey. Not really into Shakespeare.

Never said that. Not really into the Grail legend. Not into A New Hope. Not into A New Hope. Not into hearing about the Bible. And not into- I heard about the Bible and not into... I heard about the Bible for 18 consecutive years. I went to church every Sunday.

Not into history or examining... I had a communion and am a confirmed Catholic. I meant the Bible as a source of literature and storytelling. You're just cracking open the Bible every Saturday night? No, I did for 18 years. No, I didn't actually.. No, I didn't. Actually, I only did it at school. Yeah, not into history or exploring questions of existence.

Here's the thing. Not into historical fiction. My personal health and improving my body. That's not true. I brought it up because I fully support that. I want you to live as long as possible. Let's go back. More pods that way.

Let's go back. More pods. This is... We're in the entertainment business. Yeah. What we're doing here is we're entertaining people. Okay. If you don't come with a strong point of view, you are failing.

I did have a strong point of view. Hold on. If I sit down with you and Bill and we talk about Last Crusade and we just say, Oh, wonderful. That's boring. So bring some heat. Every once in a while, a blimp's got to take a shot. Where does quote unquote Sean stop and real Sean start?

Who knows? Who can tell? It's all one podcast. The thing about you being anti-grail is like you would definitely take a pill or any other sort of thing that would promise you everlasting life. No. Like you are the king of I want ease and efficiency in every aspect of your life except for how you get to see movies. Wrong. Yeah, that's true.

Have you read Tuck Everlasting? Wonderful story about the curse of eternal youth. Absolutely not. I would never do that. That's absurd. How could you truly understand the arc of human life without living it truly? They only have immortality if they stay within the seal.

But if you were told within the temple of the grail, there is an amazing home theater set up. You already did this bit on the other pod. But I don't think I got a satisfactory answer from you. I think that would be fun. Can my family be with me? What I said to you before was, would you fly in a blimp if there was a home theater setup?

And you said yes if I was on enough Xanax. I would do that. I think I've been misunderstood. That's how I feel. Last Crusade is wonderful. It's got nothing to do with that. I just think the Grail is a little overexposed.

Blimps, no. Blimps, you can't convince me. That's dangerous shit. We're not doing that. We're not. Commercial air travel, They're definitely not efficient and that's one of your

core beliefs. Yeah, that's true. A to B. Are you saying there's a little the Grail was a problem going on? The Grail was a problem. A little bit. A little bit of Bill Simmons' fame. a little, the grail was a problem going on? The grail was a problem. A little bit. A little bit of Bill Simmons is famed.

Everybody forgot about the grail. Yeah. Meanwhile, the grail. Don't take the Holy Grail for granted. The assist to turnover ratio for the grail, not strong. A lot of dead crusaders out there questing for the grail.

Yeah. Am I right? Yeah. I mean, but you have to have like goals in life. That's true. What's life without like a quest? I don't think the Last Crusade is really about the gra life. That's true. What's life without a quest? I don't think The Last Crusade is really about the grail.

I think it's about a father and a son. Yeah, that's beautiful. It's a wonderful film. Would you say it's a green in the Hall of Fame? It's my favorite of the Indiana Jones movies, which is something we're going to revisit. Do you think we'll put three Indiana Jones movies? Do you think Crystal Skull? I don't mean to jump ahead, but I'm curious.

I don't think so. No, I don't think we will. But the other thing, I mean, this is sort of working girl as to me he's obviously the central part of this but like what takes uh Last Crusade over the top for me well number one love a grail story unlike certain people on this podcast Italy and Venice Italy thank you so much Christopher. But the River Phoenix part and then obviously Sean Connery who doesn't show up for like an hour. It's like, it's everything.

So it's not just Harrison Ford carrying the movie on his back, you know? So on the one hand, I'm like, does that, we could not put it in the Hall of Fame for that reason? We can yellow it? I'm shocked. I thought this would have been an automatic green for you.

Well, it's definitely 100% Raiders. Is this your second favorite Spielberg movie? I feel like you said it was. You and Joanna both are really strong on this movie. Well, you were trying, you made us do Raiders at three instead of Last Crusade, even though I remember, even though we- Is that right, Chris?

No, no, no. You made us do Raiders at two. You made me do E.T. at three, and that was the real crime. I'm not even sure it should be at three. Six? Seven? Okay.

Well, I think that E.T. and Last Crusade should be in the top three, personally. And what else is in the top three? Jurassic Park. Come on. Dinosaurs and grails. I love it. You know?

Things we've lost and are forever in search of again. Come on. Dinosaurs and grails. I love it. You know? Things we've lost and are forever in search of again. All right. You know, I'm just trying to have a conversation, make an interesting list. Yeah, you're podcasting. 1990.

Presumed Innocent. Absolutely marvelous film. Just so messed up. So good. Just, I rewatched this one. Riveting. It's so awesome that all of our parents were such demented fuckers that they were like this is an amazing novel i can't wait to see it rendered on the screen and not only that but i'm reading it on the beach yeah like people this

was a staring at my wife scott turow 1990 at a time when the legal thriller was all the rage in pop fiction in America. Grisham, Turow. Right on the edge of the Grisham moment. And Turow, who was he? Grisham was a lawyer. Was Turow a lawyer as well? He went to law school. Okay.

For sure. With someone in my family. Yeah. Wow. Stunning. Anyhow, moving on. Well, and then, I don't know know i don't know whether i can put my in-laws on blasted this anyway this movie is uh quietly depraved and like all alan pakula movies

so dark yeah and twisted and and like fun to watch and you're just waiting for how it turns out and has one of the great endings of the 1980s. I guess 1990s. You ever seen this one, Bob? I have not, but I just discovered that Turow worked in the U.S. Attorney's Office. Jack Smith style. Assistant U.S. Attorney in Chicago. This movie features not

just Harrison Ford, but Raul Julia throwing 107 miles an hour. Incredible stuff. He's wonderful. Bonnie Bedelia. This is my favorite Bedelia. Brian Dennehy. Who are some of the other players in this one? Well, Greta's in this. Yeah, Greta Scocci.

Oh, Greta Scocci. Yeah. Jeez. Sheesh. Good film. I think there's a case for it. It's like a good zag for him. It is a good zag.

And we want to put a complete list together. I'm open to it. Let's make it green for now. Okay. Yeah, let's make it green for now. This movie made $220 million at the box office. That's because we used to care about the right things. Yeah.

I'd like to know where this sat in the box office in 1999. Let's take a quick look. It was released in 1990. Sorry, 1990. I know. It does have an 80s feel to it. I understand. This was number 12 at the box office in. I know. It does have an 80s feel to it. I understand. This was number 12 at the box office in the United States.

What was 1 through 11? You love listing movies. Oh, yeah. Just rattle them off. Number 11, Back to the Future Part 3. The Western movie. Movie kind of stinks. Yeah.

Number 10, Kindergarten Cop. Number 9, Dick Tracy. I love it. Dick Tracy's solo rewatchables. Number 8, Die Hard 2. Also depraved. Number 7, Total Recall 5 star film

number 6 The Hunt for Odd October 5 star film number 5 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was their opening night number 4 Pretty Woman

5 star film number 3 Dances with Wolves did you see that Arnon Milshan is very involved in the court cases

against Benjamin Netanyahu currently. Moving on. Number two, Ghost. Wow. Number one, Home Alone. What a fucking time. What a time. Amazing year.

Yeah. Amazing year to be alive. Okay. We're greening Presumed Innocent. This could be a little too bold. But I love it as like the announcement of this is kind of where my career is at now.

I'm playing guys in suits all the time. Sure. 1991. Speaking of men in suits. Regarding Henry. No. You don't need to be rude about it.

I'm just saying no. I mean, no is correct. But listen. For all the listeners, we should explain what this film is about. So this is a Mike Nichols film written by J.J. Abrams

when he was billed as Jeffrey. And it is about a man played by harrison ford who's like a big ticket new york um defense lawyer kind of an asshole cutthroat attorney major bonfire of the vanities vibe but lawyer style uh and then he is he interrupts a armed robbery at a bodega, gets shot in the head, but the bullet bounces off. So he's fine. He just has amnesia and can't remember his... It makes him nice. No, he is shot in the chest and the head. Oh, that's right.

The shot in the chest cuts off the oxygen to his brain. So he's brain damaged. Oh, that's right. It's not just amnesia. Okay. He's brain damaged. You're right. They do explain that. I just watchedia. Okay. He's brain damaged. You're right. They do explain that.

I just watched this. I did just rewatch it. You're right. I forgot about that. There's something about like their frontal cortex or something. They're explaining it

to Annette Bening whose style in this movie is the new definition of quiet luxury. I need every single item of it. What's the old definition of quiet luxury? Everything that people

were arguing about on the internet for the last two years. Log on, my guy. Okay? I'm so logged on. You have no fucking idea logged on.

I was so up on Wagner's march. I was going to ask you where you... Do you think Wagner group was subscribing to Quiet Luxury in their march

to the Kremlin? I think they were wearing loose-fitting turtlenecks. I heard they were wearing AirPods listening to The Watch. Yeah. You think they checked out Idol episode four? That's Idol gang.

Those guys. And Manila Dargis and me. Continue. Okay. So, Sean is correct. He does have brain damage, and it makes him forget his family. And also, to Chris's point point be nice and so this is basically harrison ford's big he is like i mean it's not that's a great call amanda but he is

playing um a person with childlike wonder with childlike wonder in an adult body and he rediscovers his life and his family and his kids or his child and discovers that everyone around him in the extremely wealthy New York that definitely mirrors some aspects of Mike Nichols' life is full of shit and lives happily ever after with his family. I think we should do a theme month on the big picture called Regarding Sean. And you should have elective surgery

to have that part of your brain, you know, the same kind of thing, but not dangerous. Am I getting paid extra for this? And then you're just like, you know what I think? I think that Marvel's doing great. And I think all those people were really hard

and we should appreciate their work. And it's hard to put together multiple films like that. You can't win with this shit. If you praise something that is mediocre, people are like, you're in their pocket.

And if you're mad about something, people are like, why are you such a curmudgeon? All of your commenters sound like Peter Falk. I wish they did. I wish they looked just like him too. Regarding Henry has an incredible lesson,

which is to be a good person, all you have to do is get shot in the head. And it's a very strange movie. It really doesn't work. I have seen it probably 40 times. It was on HBO every day at four o'clock when I got home from school. I felt like it was always on.

And I probably spent more time with this version of Harrison Ford than any other except for Han Solo. I think that when I got home from school. I felt like it was always Han. And I probably spent more time with this version of Harrison Ford than any other except for Han Solo. I think that when I was a kid and I was going through that similar experience at age 13 or 14 or whatever, I would get these movies confused because he was just wearing a suit for five years.

And I was like, is Melanie Griffith here or is he shot in the head yet? You know, like, and when's Bonnie Bedelia show up? Like, it was just one movie at this time. Regarding Henry is not in. Mike Nichols and J.J. Abrams went on to have wonderful

lives and careers. They survived this film, as did Harrison Ford, who made in 1992 Patriot Games his first role as Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan. Now, he was tabbed for The Hunt for Red October, but he passed on it, and Alec Baldwin took the role in 1990's Hunt for Red October. but he passed on it. And Alec Baldwin took the role in 1990's Hunt for Red October.

He decided to take the part on for this movie, which I don't think is really all that great. Nope. Especially in the shadow of clear and present danger. That's correct. So this is a rare case, I think, and we'll get there in one second, but I think that the sequel will go in over the original.

Agree. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. I wonder if the public at large will agree with us on that one. Patriot Games is out. I found it to be kind of a slog. Yeah.

I didn't finish it. I started it and made it like an hour through. It begins his fascination with the IRA. It does. Unfortunately for all of us when we get to the IRA film. 1993, The Fugitive. This is the chartreuse. The greenest green.

Yeah. What is the greenest green? Emerald. Yeah. Okay. Good answer. Thank you. This is a shining, perfect gem.

I think emerald is greener than green. Emerald's the greenest green. That's what Bobby just Googled. Look at that. You nailed it. Thank you. You guys are great. The Ringer producers don't get enough credit for Googling really well. Yesterday, Kaya Googled. Look at that. You nailed it. Thank you. You guys are great. The Ringer producers don't get enough credit

for Googling really well. Yesterday, Kaya Googled how many episodes of The Idol are there. Okay. Six. Is that an insult?

You sound really good. I agree with the Ringer. Producers don't get enough credit, but I'm not sure if that's the thing they're not getting enough credit for. Andy and I were going back and forth.

It's six. It's five. It's six. It's five. And then Kaya just put a screenshot of her own Google that said how many episodes are The Idol and it said it's five. Oh. It's six. It's five. It's six. It's five. And then Kaya just put a screenshot of her own Google that said how many episodes are the idol and it said it's five. Oh, it's

five. Oh, yeah. Kaya is the best of the best. Let me just speak to HBO programmers for a minute. What's with putting the finales on holiday weekends? They think they have a captive audience. Oh, do they? Everybody's home. They're like, man, I just can't wait to celebrate America

but first. That's a good way of describing people let's have Tedros put his fingers in some woman's mouth that sounds like the nicest thing that could happen

it's honestly so gross that's not what I was so I really was just I was idol gang with you there I really was did you watch 4?

I did and uh no like it's just it's really gross why did they let have you been watching it of course not i value my time but she likes to listen to the podcast yeah you guys are great yeah and

yeah i would listen to you and andy i would listen to you and andy read a transcript of this podcast that's how much i enjoy you and andy who would how would you you hand out the voice work Chris would play every part okay that's right um I'm still in I'm still in okay Idol Gang uh

The Fugitive is in there's not really much to say it's a perfect movie as you said your introduction to Harrison Ford um Doctor Richard Kimball

1994 Clear and Present Danger also in yeah the hottest Willem Dafoe's ever been wow wow that's uh 1994 Clear and Present Danger. Also in? Yeah. The hottest Willem Dafoe's ever been? Wow. Wow.

That's... I'm thinking... Is your newfound interest in neckwear related to Jack Ryan in this movie? He wears a cool neckerchief. I think my interest in... He's not quiet luxury. Is Jack Ryan in Clear and Present Danger? We just need... Is he giving quiet luxury? We need to give you danger we just need we need to give you a workout pod we need to give you a fashion pod i never got to tell you guys that the three of you trying to you bill and sean trying to describe chloe seven years outfits uh in the last days of

disco was the 10 minutes of my year it was just just tremendous stuff. And you all should be fashion correspondents. And I love you very much. And you're complete morons. Anyway. This is another reason that I'm interested in neckwear. Okay. I don't know how my neckwear is going to go in the summer months. It's tough.

I haven't figured it out. We both went all in on some cold weather products. Well, we had to, you know. It's true. We lived in Blade Runner's Los Angeles for a while there. Are we talking about Clear and Present Danger? What's happening? Well, he was saying.

He's got a cool neckerchief on in this movie. He was saying, is this the hottest that Willem Dafoe's ever been? And I don't think so. He's super tan in this movie. Is Willem Dafoe's in Jagged Edge, right? I don't know. I mean, Jeff Brid Willem Dafoe in Jagged Edge, right? I don't know. I mean, Jeff Bridges is the star of Jagged Edge. Do you think he's hotter in this movie

or is Sergeant Elias in Platoon? Which? What? Peter Coyote is in Jagged Edge. Oh, okay. All right. I was just thinking about Jagged Edge. I asked if he's hotter in Clear and Present Nature.

He's hotter in Clear and Present Nature. I was just going to say that... It would be such an amazing bit for you. I was just like, he's so hot. Sergeant Elias is daddy. What about Max Schreck from Shadow of the Vampire? The Green Goblin? Is that the hottest the Green Goblin ever was?

With the suit, though. It's quite an odd product from you, I must say. Light sleeper? Dirtbag drug dealer? Okay. No? Lighthouse. Lighthouse, yeah.

Yeah, absolutely not. You like me, lobster? Okay. Clear Impressinator is wonderful. Body of Evidence. That's what I was thinking about. Oh, the Madonna one. Right, yeah. Anyway. If you'd like to talk about that film, I'd be amused to hear you talk about wonderful. Body of Evidence. That's what I was thinking about. Oh, the Madonna one. Right.

Yeah. Anyway. If you'd like to talk about that film, I'd be amused to hear you talk about it. We talked about it. Did you rewatch it when we did it? Yes, I did. Do you think we're going to get credit

for being way ahead of the curve on that? What do you mean? Like you invented the idol? No. No. I mean, Bill did sleazy, sexy 70s and 80s. Karina Longworth has been doing the 80s and the 90s

on You Must Remember This me Amanda and Wesley Morris spent two hours well we spent five days at the early days of the pandemic

re-watching the most acclaimed movies of the 90s and body of evidence I know that's what it is it's a time people want to forget I was like watching at like 2pm

on a Wednesday just in our living room of our old apartment. And Zach came in when Willem Dafoe and Madonna were, you know. Dripping hot wax. And he was just like, what is happening right now? Like, what life are you living? The reason I thought of this was because I had confused Body of Evidence and Jagged Edge in my head.

Just because when you watch Presumed In presumed innocent the suggested films like to watch next is basically the greatest it's the greatest keywords of all time it's definitely no way out jagged edge and i think patriot games which is not that good but in the context of it's no way out that no way out the kevin costner with hackman right or is that revenge no it's no way i was with yeah with Hackman and with Sean Young. Yeah, right. Yeah. Anyway, all really good stuff.

Clear and Present Danger in... 1995 Sabrina. Nope. Out. Unnecessary remake. And this is where... This is where maybe the transmission starts to go a little bit. Okay.

Sabrina, this remake... When you look at what he did in the first half of the 90s and then what happens in the second half of the 90s and going forward, you're just like, what happened here? It's a confusing one. This is at the height of the Greg Kinnear moment, elevating out of talk soup into the mainstream movies.

Talk soup's been a very fertile minor leagues when you think about it. Where's John Henson these days? But like Mikhail? Yeah, Mikhail. Aisha Tyler? Yeah. No, not a fan of talk soup.

No, I don't know what you're talking about. Extraordinary. Do you remember when Zach... Oh, is that? Oh, that. I thought we were talking about something else. Yeah. The famous story.

So Zach was watching. You tell it. It's your story. It's before I knew him. Before Amanda was alive, Zach Barron came to the residence of my wife and I and we were watching television as we do

I think you may have been there Chris and we were hanging out I mean this has got to be 15 years ago we were watching talk show like normal people we were having like pizza and beer and watching like TV

just had TV on the way you used to not when you were like I need to sit down and watch I do it now. I have TCM on all the time. Just you and PTA. Yeah.

That's what you guys do. When Marty was like, I have it on in the editing bay. I was like, I should do that. And now I have a bunch of really bad old movies. So anyway, we were watching television and talk soup,

which was a clip show in the nineties and two thousands that featured highlights from other TV shows around the dial and snarky commentary. We're watching this show and I've been watching this show since I was a kid and Chris had as well and my wife had as well. We were very familiar with it. And Zach looked upon it

as though it were the Ark of the Covenant. He was like, what do we have here? What is this modern contraption? Wasn't he like shocked? He felt like all the shows that they were talking about were shows that they had created to go poon. Wasn't he like, is this real TV? Or is this that real?

Yes. Because Zach, of course, at that time, did not watch a lot of television in general, bewildered by reality television and game shows and all of the different shows that they focused on in that show. And so was as though like it was tiktok before tiktok in a lot of ways where it was just like fast moving showing you something very you know kind of confusing and erratic but kind of funny and uh for i honestly think that that was one of the most significant moments in zach's life because zach watches tv now like he will just watch tv and before that i felt like

he wouldn't watch tv we honestly are not very good at watching tv he will just watch TV. And before that, I felt like he wouldn't watch TV. We honestly are not very good at watching TV. He doesn't watch it that much. I was laughing just because I was just thinking of other dumb shit that Zach says from time to time. I was just thinking about how he just wanted to talk about marinades for like 20 minutes yesterday. That sounds great.

You should have him call me when he wants to do that. I'm interested in that. I literally was like, I love you so much. and this is a referendum on me not you but like i never want to talk about marinate you know what the secret ingredient to every marinade is tell us we're just do you ever say to your wife i don't want to talk about this i don't think that would go over well but that's what i'm saying is like i'm never like whatever phoebe is just like here's some shit about a cat. I'm like, absolutely. But you're like, shut the fuck up.

Like, whether or not he puts ginger in a bag with some soy sauce. I'm going to be honest. It was the second conversation about marinades. We went back to the marinades. I sat through one. And I don't, we have like a couple topics where I'm like, I just really don't want to have this conversation. One is what type of fish we should buy. And then this is like related. What should we put the fish in? My big one is I don't know what side of the cheese grater to use. And I ask every single time I say, which side do I use

again? And each time I think she might hit me in the fucking eye with it as hard as she can. What's the confusion? I just can't remember. They all look the same. But is there one that's, are you only allowed to greet? There's one for Parm. Oh, okay. Yeah.

And that's usually what we're greeting. Okay. Got it. I mean, I was just going to say like, there's only one size of greeting. I think my eye is bleeding, guys. Come on. Let's keep it moving. Wait, but Greg Kinnear hosted TalkSoup?

Yes, he certainly did. Yeah. I didn't know. Before vaulting himself into the mainstream. Joel McHale hosted it, right? Joel McHale inherited that. Oh, I didn't know. It's like Kilborn and Stewart, you know?

Okay. Oh, it's the same thing? Interesting. They dropped the talk, I I think when Joel McHale the soup the soup yeah oh the soup

yeah see Bobby this is we're bringing generations together right now the talk soup in part because part of what was featured on it was like Sally Jesse Raphael

and Phil Donahue and shows like Oprah I know that those are real but then it shifted into Survivor and then like Joe Millionaire and The Bachelor and reality shows

anyway moving on 1997 The Devil's Zone Harrison Ford reunites with Alan Pakula and he teams up with Brad Pitt, who attempts for two hours...

What's happening to you? I'm just thinking about you creating a show. I'm just taking the large block of parmesan on like the giant I don't do that I don't do that

I'm not I'm okay I just there's two small grates And I'm like I don't really see the distinction I do like the idea of you holding the grater in one hand And the cheese in the other And crying because you're so confused It's like reenacting that scene from Tenet.

Oh my God. That's really funny. Okay. How can I get you guys back? I have so many things to do today. It's unbelievable. We were here. We were ready to roll, man.

Yeah. I've been really generous. I didn't throw any sort of fits over Amanda for this. Devil's not going on our fucking list. Yeah. That's the thing. I I didn't throw any sort of fits over Amanda for this. on our fucking list. That's the thing.

I think she and I both intuited the fact that now we have reached the part of the Harrison Ford career where he is an old man who likes crashing

planes and being married to Ally McBeal. I don't think he was quite married to Ally McBeal. The Devil's Own is out.

Yeah. Brad Pitt destroyed this film. That's my take. I love Brad Pitt. He destroyed this film. That's my take. I love Brad Pitt. He destroyed this film. This is also a really great era of Hollywood where they just did not know how to do fucking accents in any film.

And it took Quentin Tarantino making Inglourious Bastards to write the ship, honestly. Where he was just like, you do this, and the guys who speak German speak fucking German. You just reminded me that Hanover Street feels like a movie that Quentin definitely saw before writing Inglourious Basterds.

Listen, we're going to watch it. I forgot about that. I mean, I don't know if that's the case, but there's aspects of it for sure. Anyway, 1998, Six Days and Seven Nights. No, sorry, 1997, Air Force One. Do it. Get off my plane!

We haven't talked enough about Harrison Ford's voice. I think he's amazing in this. Is it far enough from Jack Ryan for you? How many have we got? One, two, three. We haven't talked enough about Harrison Ford's voice. I think he's amazing in this. Is it far enough from Jack Ryan for you? How many have we got? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. It's an interesting version of a president. Because in the movie, they show us a moment where he's at the Russian embassy or something, kind of giving a speech at the beginning of the film.

And just laughing about cheese graters again. You were just trying to recreate the plot of Air Force One like it's serious. I'm okay now. Okay, I'm sorry. Do you want a bagel? Do you need some carbs? Like, what's going on? Okay, okay. It's very serious.

Air Force One. Yeah. The Cold War. Go ahead. Recreate it for us. Okay. Well, Gary Oldman's a Russian terrorist. like what's going on okay okay it's very serious air force one yeah the cold war go ahead okay well gary oldman's a russian terrorist uh-huh or is it right and it's kazakhstan kazakhstan yeah because 97 the cold war is over yeah i know but you know it's like the hangover you gotta have a little bit of like a kenny powers vibe right now we're like fucking fucking Russia. That is true. And then he gets on the plane, you know? And then Harrison Ford has to keep the terrorists

from taking control of the plane. That's exactly how they sold it in the room. Just exactly with that speech. Gary Oldman eats this dude's lunch in this movie, though. I just have to say. I think this movie does not do a very good job of not giving away the fact that

Gary Oldman is the bad guy because in the very first scene he's like, oh yes, I am indeed a press officer from Russia. Like it's the most

telegraphed of Kazakhstan, you know? This movie's a huge hit. Yeah. It's very iconic because of Get Off My Plane.

Wolfgang, right? Wolfgang Peterson. Preposterous. One of the most preposterous movies I've ever seen. A lot of fun. I'm kind of iffy on it in the Hall of Fame. Let's do Yellow. Yellow.

I'm okay with Yellow. Okay. Six Days and Seven Nights, 1998. This is the Anna Hitch one? It is. Doesn't work. No. This is Red.

1999 Random Hearts. This is the movie I wanted to speak with you about. Okay. I'd never seen this. This is a romance 1999 Random Hearts. This is the movie I wanted to speak with you about. Okay. I'd never seen this. This is a romance starring Kristen Scott Thomas, directed by Sidney Pollack. Yeah. Probably the most morose film that Harrison Ford has ever made.

Confounding, but super interesting. Harrison Ford plays an IA officer, an internal affairs officer, a cop in DC. His wife gets on a plane kristin scott thomas plays a congresswoman from new hampshire maine new england new england her husband gets on a plane they both die is it important why are these details because we're setting the scene okay because no one saw Random Hearts. No one knows what it is.

And even though he's in the height of his fame, he made this very weird movie. These two people get on a plane. The plane crashes. Come to find out that these two people were dating, having an affair. And then that brings Harrison Ford's character and Kristen Scott Thomas' character together. It's kind of a romance, but not really a romance.

Have you seen this? Yeah, a long time ago. It's like they're trying to do American English patient with Chris and Scott Thomas. I mean, the plane crash, the illicit, you know. A little bit. Three years.

Chris and Scott Thomas should never do an American accent. Exactly. It literally, to me, it brought the whole movie down. Harrison Ford, though, very good in this movie.

Very good performance. She speaks English and French. You know, pick one of the two but not an American accent. Okay, Random Hearts is out. 2000, What Lies Beneath.

Big hit. Yeah. And this is an incredible spoiler alert if you have not seen What Lies Beneath. Yeah. Spoiler alert.

Harrison Ford's a bad guy in this movie. First time he ever really does that. Since American Graffiti. It's been a minute but that is known early in the film. Right? No. At the end of the film? It's been a minute, but that is known early in the film, right?

No. At the end of the film? It's revealed at the end of the film in a very dramatic reveal. Pretty good movie. It's Robert Zemeckis doing Hitchcock.

Very overtly. Very rear window. Very psycho. With a supernatural twist. I like it and it was a big hit. Not in? You're not finished? I have a thing that's weird about Harrison Ford. Okay. Which is that supernatural twist. I like it and it was a big hit. Not in? Not in offense?

I have a thing that's weird about Harrison Ford. Okay. Which is that despite the fact that he has a smoke show, do you find that he has electric chemistry

with his acting partners? Not always. Because I didn't really feel it with him and Pfeiffer. Now, granted, a lot of the movies he's in, they're not supposed to have electric chemistry

because their marriages are falling apart or whatever. But what's like the hottest he's in, they're not supposed to have electric chemistry because their marriages are falling apart or whatever. But what's like the hottest he's ever been with another? Witness. Yeah. I mean, Carrie Fisher. Come on. Yeah.

And then Leia, he definitely has that. And he and Melanie Griffith have like a nice screwball chemistry as well. It's not sexual, but there is something like funny and endearing about it. This film does open What Lies Beneath with him essentially seducing Michelle Pfeiffer early in the morning before their day starts. And you didn't buy that. You were like, there's no way these two have ever had chemistry. Not in the a.m., not in the morning. Interesting.

You more of an a.m. guy or p.m. guy? All right. What Lies Beneath is out. Uh-huh. 2002. Speaking of bad Russian accents. I watched this last night. K-19 The Widowmaker.

Out of all the movies, this is what you picked. I thought it was relevant to the current events. You could make that case. Catherine Bigelow directs Harrison Ford and Liam Neeson in a period piece about a Russian submarine. Yeah, it's set in 1961. And Liam Neeson puts sub over party so the russian communist party replaces him as a sub captain with harrison ford but keeps liam neeson on the sub just to like

smooth the transition they've got to go to the arctic circle to run some missile tests to scare kennedy and uh you know everything pops off from there. Peter Sarsgaard is the reactor, like, lieutenant. Yeah. I find the accents to be very amusing in this movie because they're sort of soft Russian. They're Scottish. Like, they're almost all doing Scottish accents. Like, it's like, it's essentially like

Liam Neeson is doing, like, a rough Scottish accent. But you think that's inspired by The Hunt for Red October? I don't know. But, like, it's just, they just swung and missed on this one. Very weird. There's some really cool

Catherine Bigelow stuff like running through the submarine shit, but not a good movie. 2003, Hollywood Homicide. This is a film. I have not seen this.

Starring Harrison Ford and the then sizzling Josh Hartnett. Oh, yeah. How have I not seen this? I was very Josh Hartnett hive in the early 2000s. This is... You know it's back, right?

Oh, the Hartnett hive? Yeah. Do you know who brought it back? Tell me. Guy Ritchie. No, me and Sean did. Oh, well, I know that you've been on the corner for a long time, even through his weird like AT&T only cable show.

I never sold my stock. He's in the season of Black Mirror. Yeah. He's quite good. Never sold my Hartnett stock. 40 Days and 40 N of Black Mirror. Yeah. He's quite good. Never sold my Heartnut stock. 40 Days and 40 Nights pro. Saw that.

30 Days of Night. I also like. Quality film. Yeah. Love vampires. This film was directed by the great Ron Shelton. He of Bull Durham fame.

Mm-hmm. And it kind of stinks. This is not going in the Hall of Fame. No, it's not going in. You know who else is in this movie is Master P.

Remember Master P, the rapper? Okay, 2006, Firewall. I don't know this movie. No, I don't know it either. This is a home-bound, like home invasion thriller in which Harrison Ford plays, I think a tech executive

and his home is broken into by Paul Bettany. What kind of technology? Can't recall. There was this run of movies like this where it was sort of like, you know, the net and films about the future of technology and it was like, it's in the computer! And a lot of that sort of dialogue. That's a Zoolander quote.

Inside the computer. Firewall's out. 2008, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I'm going to preempt some of our conversation on our Indiana Jones episode. Yeah, I'm not going to be here for Dial of Destiny, so can I just say that I just wanted to jump in on the Crystal Skull conversation.

Go for it. Well, I just, in retrospect, pretty good. Pretty good movie, at least for the first half. Yeah. And I was re-watching it the other day

and thought that the scene in the soda shop with him and Shia Yeah, it's... is awesome. Very endearing. Yeah, I think that this movie and Dial of Destiny have a lot in common, and we

will discuss that when we discuss Dial of Destiny, but when I revisited it, I liked it. I liked it. It definitely was not the full scale tire fire that I thought it was when I saw it back in 2008. I don't think it's going in the Hall of Fame. I don't either. And we are on an unprecedented run of Reds

through this period in Ford's career, and it's not going to get any better anytime soon. I don't either. And we are on an unprecedented run of reds through this period in Ford's career. And it's not going to get any better anytime soon. 2009, Crossing Over. This is an immigration drama. I believe that Harrison Ford plays an ICE agent in this film. Okay. That's not good. This is not a good movie.

Chris, have you seen this? I don't think so. Ray Liotta appears in this film. I believe as a guy who attempts to illegally acquire green cards for immigrants. I've never even seen Wayne Kramer directed this?

Wow. This is, we're in a dark period here. 2010 Extraordinary Measures. Have you guys seen this film? No. Brendan Fraser plays the father

of a young boy who I believe has a terminal illness and Harrison Ford plays a doctor. Not going in. 2010. We've all been waiting

to hear Amanda weigh in on whether or not Morning Glory is in the Harrison Ford Hall of Fame. I don't think it needs to go in the Hall of Fame but this is a wonderful film.

Are you sure? Well, I think it's the only one that's eligible. Yeah. I mean, if you want to do like No, from his like Well, I think it's the only one that's eligible. Yeah. I mean, if you want to do like... No, from his, like, time-wise, I think like... Magazine-y list.

I think that this is the most eligible candidate. This is a rom-com written by Aline Brush McKenna, who also wrote 27 Dresses and The Devil Wears Prada. It's directed by Roger Michel, who directed Notting Hill. It stars Rachel McAdams, who is wonderful, Patrick Wilson as the guy who's doing like a great sort of Harrison Ford and Working Girl tribute

of just like being a guy who's charming and handsome and just there. But it's set in the world of like morning news, like Today Show, Good Morning America, all those sorts of things.

And the anchors of the morning news show today show good morning america all those sorts of things and the anchors of the morning news show are diane keaton and then former uh nightly news anchor uh who uh is being pushed out of the news space and into the morning show space harrison ford so just he's delightful he's grumpy he hates everything he doesn't want to do the news segments you but finally he's delightful. He's grumpy. He hates everything. He doesn't want to do the news segments. But finally, he's won over by Rachel McAdams, who's like the startup, you know, energized news producer. And it's comedy. Like he gets to do comedy.

And it's sort of like character actor charm. It's lovely, but it doesn't need to go in. But you should watch this movie it's great Morning Glory is out I like it too it's definitely not bad 2011 Cowboys and Aliens

is bad yes major misfire Daniel Craig and Harrison Ford Jon Favreau directed by Jon Favreau and was supposed to be like

here we got a new franchise massive summer release that flopped 2013 42 a very successful film biopic of Jackie Robinson got a new franchise. Massive summer release that flopped. 2013, 42. A very successful film. Biopic of Jackie Robinson. Starring the late,

great Chadwick Boseman. Critical role for Ford, who plays Branch Rickey, the general manager of the then Brooklyn Dodgers, who signs Jackie Robinson and obviously breaks the color barrier

when he comes to Major League Baseball. A well-liked movie, a little stiff for my taste as a movie, but not bad. I think Brian Helgeland directed this, screenwriter. Probably the most seen and appreciated Ford performance from this dark period is it in. Do you think about Harrison Ford for more than three seconds of this movie? Isn't it mostly Chadwick Boseman? Yes.

Yeah. Ricky plays a critical part in the telling of the story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whether or not that's the right way to tell this story, I guess, is debatable. But he's pretty good in the movie. I'm not into that. I'm not into it either. If we want something from this era, I would do Morning Glory before.

I would do Morning Glory from this era, and I would go back and say Working Girl or Air Force One should go in. Well, we might get to do that. Okay, that same year in 2013, there is a film called Paranoia. This is actually the third film in this entire filmography that I've never seen. It's directed by Robert Luketic.

It stars Liam Hemsworth, Gary Oldman, Amber Heard, and Harrison Ford. Have you guys seen this movie? I had never even heard of it until I looked at this. This feels fake. Yeah. This feels like someone inserted a fake movie into Harrison Ford's filmography. For like tax purposes or whatever?

Yeah. I've never seen it. I've never heard of it. It cost $35 million. It was released by the Notorious Relativity Media. It's on Max. And had made only $17 million at the box office. Any listeners out there who have seen this film,

please let us know if it is in some way a hidden gem, but it is not. It is a 7% Rotten Tomato. That's extraordinary. 7%. Okay. Also in 2013, he's cranking them out. Ender's Game.

The Orson Scott card adaptation, long in the works. Harrison Ford plays the critical role of Colonel Graff, did not like this movie. Is this one of the... No, I like The Maze Runner. The Maze Runner. Okay, so that's what you watched all of on the plane. Okay, I couldn't remember.

Right. Death Cure, Scorch Trials. Sure. Yeah. You more of a Scorch Trials guy or... I actually think Death Cure is pretty fun. What happens in that? They cure death.

Okay. But Maze Runner is good. Is Harrison Ford in that? No. Okay. Patricia Clarkson's in it. Oh, good for her. And then in the other ones, John Carl Esposito is in it.

Oh, okay. And Aidan Gillen. Where's Bean? Why does he wear the mask? Also in 2013, a brief role in Anchorman 2 in which he plays

a cable news anchor. This was sad to you. I felt like he was kind of like, where am I? I'm serious. I thought he was funny. I thought he was fine. The Anchorman where like

there was 80 people there, I was like, this is an Anchorman. Okay. What is Anchorman to you? Anchorman is pure and Anchorman is like there was 80 people there. I was like, this is an Anchorman. Okay. What is Anchorman to you? Anchorman is pure. And Anchorman is not like a platform for a lot of cameos. Anchorman is like about that news station.

And it was like a perfect film. And when they were like, let's get a thousand people to pretend to be an Anchorman. I was like, no. There was a great little side moment in Jennifer Lawrence's Hot Ones. I'm not sure if you guys watched that. I did see that. Where she was asked for what is the critical, the best Will Ferrell

performance. I think he asks her that after he has her eat Da Bomb. Yeah, Da Bomb Beyond Insanity, which is the hottest hot sauce known to man.

And watching Jennifer Lawrence eat that wing is extremely funny. And she's incredible. She's like sobbing. She's so great. Trying to drink, yeah. It's great content.

But she wanted to go Anchorman and then thought it was too obvious so she went Elf. Oh, okay. Because she said the commitment to playing an elf. She was like, when you make a movie,

you don't know if it's going to be good. You have no idea. It's a crapshoot. So Will Ferrell got in an elf costume and ran around New York City and he was like, I'm game. And she was like,

that's an incredible act of fearlessness. I respect it. Which I thought was a great answer. That is a great answer. Yeah. It's a great argument, but the answer is Ricky Bobby. It's fucking Step Brothers.

No, it's Anchorman. Okay, moving on. Anchorman 2 is not in the Harrison Ford Hall of Fame. In 2014, he appeared in The Expendables 3. This is tough. This is bummer town, man.

Yeah. This whole run here until 2017 is just full of bummers. There are some Age of Adaline defenders. Are there any at this table? No. Nope. Respectfully. 2017, whole run here until 2017 is just full of bummers there are some age of adeline defenders are there any at this table no nope respectfully 2017 star wars the force awakens i would like to say that i

would like to put this green i watched this again the other night and he is quite awesome in it and you know obviously has been doing a lot of uh looking looking through his back pages in this era from 2017 through now. It's essentially all roles he has played before with the exception of one. I thought that this was a really thoughtful and cool way for this character to go out. It's true.

The Force, the Jedi, all of it. It's all true. Incredible line reading. Yeah. One of the only moments in that movie that I feel like actually captures the magic of the original Star Wars films. For sure. That would be a bold take to put The Force Awakens in.

What do you think, Amanda? I'm open to it. We can yellow it. Okay, we will yellow it for now. Do you think... His performance is very good and it's, of course, critical to the story. Like, I would say he's much more important in Force Awakens than he is in Blade Runner 2049 where he comes in after like two hours.

I agree. Yes. Completely agree. I enjoy him and Gosling. It's good. That exchange in the bar sequence there. But I don't think Blade Runner 2049 is going to hit for him. I think Blade Runner 2049 is a better movie than Force Awakens. I agree. I agree.

Yeah. But I don't think that... I think Harrison Ford in Force Awakens... I haven't I agree. Yeah. But I don't think that I think Harrison Ford in Force Awakens. I haven't seen Call of the Wild but you can. I've seen it. The CGI is quite poor.

Yeah. Okay. I didn't love it. I love Jack London. Do you? I do. Okay. Survivalist that I am.

Sure. 2023 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. I don't know Can we even weigh in on this before we do the I guess yeah Yeah Yeah

I played a can He's good I like this movie I think it's pretty good And it's almost great compared to a lot of other stuff that comes out these days Very true But I would probably put Crystal Skull over this If we were talking about Hall of Fame performances.

That would make it red. His performance is very good in this movie, especially considering the fact that he was 78 years old when they made this movie. And he broke his leg doing it. And he is in the center

of the entire movie. Yeah. I think it's red. I think it's red as well. Okay. So where do we wind up? Let's recap. I don't know how many we have.

Going back, American Graffiti is yellow. Star Wars A New Hope is green. Apocalypse Now is yellow. The Empire Strikes Back, green. Raiders of the Lost Ark, green. Blade Runner, green. Return of the Jedi, yellow. Witness, green. The Mosquito Coast, yellow. Working Girl, yellow. Last Crusade,

yellow. That's going to turn. Presumed Innocent, green. Fugitive, green. Clear and Present Danger, green. Air Force One, yellow. The Force Awakens, yellow. We have eight. We have two. Two slots.

Eight greens. And how many yellows are we pulling from? One, two, three, four, eight? Mosquito Coast? I think for the sake of rationality, we're choosing between Working Girl, Last Crusade, and Air Force One. Fine. Working Girl and Last Crusade. I'm okay with that.

I don't think we need to have him playing. I don't think we need two Han Solos and two Indiana Joneses. Do we currently have that? We would if we put Last Crusade in. Okay, that's fine. I don't think we need more than that. That's what I mean.

No Air Force One. I like it, but I feel that... He does the same thing in Clear and Present Day. Yeah, we have... Okay. You know, a political thriller. Wasn't he supposed to become the president in the next Jack Ryan movie that never got made?

I thought that he did. He was supposed... I think he's... Doesn't he become president in the Nuke one because everybody dies and he has to take over? I can't remember, but Ben Affleck was Jack Ryan in that film. Yeah, but I think he become president in the nuke one because everybody dies and he has to take over I can't remember but Ben Affleck was Jack Ryan

yeah but I think he becomes president because he's like I meant to rewatch that but then I couldn't justify it there's a whole series of Tom Clancy books

with president Jack Ryan I think it'd be fun to do a Jack Ryan pod okay Shadow Recruit did you see that film I did directed by Kenneth Branagh

no starring Chris Pine and Keira Knightley oh I did see that. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's not good. Okay.

Gosh. There's way too much him rehabbing his back in that one. FYI. No American graffiti. You love to do this. You love to put on your... I love to make content. Your film nerd hat.

And you're like, this is the historical moment. This is a film podcast. You like history in this context. You don't like it in the context of Much to your chagrin, this is not a

cheese grater podcast. Our great filmmakers. I think that I've done really well not laughing again for the last 30 minutes. I deeply disagree. I have been trying

so hard. Okay. We were saying Working Girl and Last Crusader are the two films we were going to add. That's what trying so hard. Okay. We were saying Working Girl and Last Crusader are the two films we were going to add. That's what I voted for. You would put Working Girl

over American Graffiti. Yes. Do you think the people at home agree? Do I care? No, we know you don't. Chris, what do you think? I thought we were

coming out of here with one of American Graffiti Apocalypse Now or The Conversation. But it's okay that we're not, I guess. I don't really... I know why you like those parts.

I think they're historically significant parts with... I think American Graffiti is more significant than the conversation in Apocalypse Now. I agree with that. Because it is the first big ticket movie, first iconic movie he appears in. And his part is actually... I don't know if it's more critical but it's more memorable essential i'm not sure what the word is so why don't we do

working girl in american graffiti and not do last crusade we have raiders okay that's fine i wouldn't do working girl is this punishment because i thought chris was funny like i what do you want from me? Think of it this way. It's all punishment. It's all reward, too. Just getting to do this is a reward for all of us. Especially Bob.

In person. Did we cite that? That Bobby is here in person with us? Happy to be here. Is that why the energy is so crazy? No, this is what it's like now. All the time, too. Off mic, too, for some reason. I brought carbs and I thought maybe like, oh, everybody's going to have a bagel and be kind's like now. All the time, too. Off mic, too,

for some reason. and I thought maybe everybody's going to have a bagel and be kind of sedate. They'll be bread high and we'll be really chill with each other. You were hoping for that?

Yes, I've never really talked much about Harrison Ford's personal life, which I think is pretty interesting. He was married to Melissa Matheson

for a long time. Screenwriter of E.T. And then he got married to Calista Flockhart. Yes. A couple of things I wanted to point out about his non-big screen appearances that I enjoy. Number one, the David Blaine.

The David Blaine special is the greatest unscripted television moment. Where he starts crying because David Blaine somehow inserts a playing card into an orange without peeling it. Yes. Harrison Ford is wearing an earring and he's with Calista Flockhart and he just starts crying. He's so high. Unbelievable television. Did you ever consider an earring?

A soul earring? A diamond stud in your right ear? What would you do if I got a hoop? I would applaud you and then I would call you Blackbeard for the rest of your life. Did you ever consider magic? Also, a really great on YouTube. I did not. There's also a really great YouTube deep dive to go on

for his British talk show appearances. Specifically, he does a Blade Runner 2049 talk show appearance with Ryan Gosling, where the woman is just like, I haven't seen this movie. And he's like, me neither. And starts drinking whiskey. Like, he's a great Graham Norton guest. Oh, I've seen that one.

Oh, yeah. The Graham Norton one's good. I get served the Gosling Harrison Ford Graham Norton appearance a lot on Instagram. And they do a bit where he can't remember Ryan's name. And it's very funny. Yeah. I don't really think that's his personal life, but continue. And then the last one I was going to mention is his is his love of aviation yeah continue yeah well

i mean i personally uh think that harrison ford you're giving like your first ever book report right now because i i as a person, do believe... I was always kind of wondering... He crashed two planes. Why did my golf game plateau? You know, why did it level out? Why did I never get better?

And I think it's because in the back of my head, I'm always worried about getting hit by a Harrison Ford piloted plane. And if I can't be present when I'm standing over a six iron and I'm like, I got to shape this.

I need to leave this, you know? I like that theory, but I can assure you that is not why. How do you know? You're not inside my head. No, but I've played with you many times. But you're going to the gym. That's right.

So it could all change. And it could all change for Harrison Ford if we keep him out of planes. I think we should. I think he's... How much more do you think he's got in the tank? How many more Harrison Ford if we keep him out of planes I think we should I think he's so do you how much more do you think he's got in the tank

how many more Harrison Ford movies do you think I don't think very many more I think he's I think he will be General Ross oh man and did you see

how sad that was when he was like they were working me really hard I did and I did not really understand he was asked if he's looking forward

to portraying Red Hulk are you guys familiar with red hulk yeah i think so and he said what's red hulk which i think was a troll job on his part but i'm not sure and if he doesn't know that he's playing a character that is going to turn into red hulk that's very funny it seems possible my gut is telling me american graffiti in last crusade i don't know what to tell you. Is there something else you'd like to swap out?

When did you decide to be really mean to me on this podcast? Like, it was okay for a while. Like, a couple weeks into it. Yeah. I think if you,

whenever you fire one dart, What dart did she fire? Yeah. I become alive. You know, I'm like, it's go time. Was it just because I was laughing?

You waited the whole pod. Like, in the last five minutes. Oh, I. Was it just because I was laughing? You waited the whole pod. Like in the last five minutes. Oh, I know what it was. It was when you brought up the grail. Oh, and you were defensive because you got a lot of mean internet comments

and you read all of them despite me telling you not to. And then we personified them here in this room. With all of my anti-grailites. Okay. The non-grailies okay we defy thee

gotta come up with a better name yeah uh is that your version of stoolies grailies something like that yeah no the non-grailies

non-grailies okay there's a hyphen in there it's not working it's not good we don't subscribe to the mythology of the grail did we get to 10

no have we decided no because he is just taking away It's not good. We don't subscribe to the mythology of the Grail. Did we get to 10? Have we decided? No, because he is just taking away Working Girl now just to be an asshole. That's not true. I just don't know if it's representative of the Hall of Fame. And American Graffiti is. Well, you said it yourself. We like to put the breakthrough. You like to do that.

I'm like, you know, it was nice that he got that shot. Without it, we would not have Star Wars. Right, I know. But that's pretty important. We can't include it in every single Hall of Fame. It's like, well, this was his first role. But just because you wanted to nail working girl Jack Traynor in 1999. Has Harrison Ford ever done any voice work in animated films?

He has. I did not include that work in those films. Anything notable? I take it back. Maybe he has never done that before. Wow, a true... He's, yeah. He's one of us.

Yeah. Wow, intriguing. And yet, I heard you on another podcast extolling the virtues of Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse. Man, you did so good. You were so respectful. I really felt you on that.

And you tried so hard. You were so respectful. I really felt you on that and you tried so hard and it was endearing. I have bad news. What? In 2019, Harrison Ford performed the voice of Batman, right?

Of Rooster in The Secret Life of Pets 2. Oh, I thought he was in the Lego movie. Is Secret Life of Pets that's different than the DC. Are they superheroes in their secret lives? You're referring to the League of Super Pets?

Yes. Is that the one with the rock? It is. Oh, yeah. I had to watch that while I was babysitting once. How'd that go? I mean, I didn't like it that much. Did you tell the children you were watching it with that it was bad?

No, but I was just like, man, this is a bad beat. What animated films have you... You could be watching Rounders. Incredible. Just the bear episode one, just a poster,

Rounders poster. Yeah. Just right into my neck. Have you... I'm only on the first two episodes. Okay. I'm sorry about all the text messages you must be getting.

I have muted all of the chains that are asking me about the bear. The bear season two is like they took the blood out of my body and put it in a TV show. It is. It's remarkable. Wait till you get to seven.

They just put Wilco's handshake drugs in the first episode. Amazing. Are you a Bruce Hortonsby guy? Of course. That's amazing. I don't want to hear shit about the bear. Don't say nothing. I didn't say anything. This about the bear don't say nothing

I didn't say anything this is what I do every day as you guys are just like they took my essence and then they put it on FX you know and it was amazing like I'm used to it

I was about to give you working girl I was about I was on the verge of giving you something I didn't say anything I want Chris to apologize for the slander that he and Andy laid upon Monster, the R.E.M. album that was in the beer trailer. You know, it's good to those of us who were born in the 80s.

I liked it. I like Monster. I think that Monster... No, you guys slagged it. Yeah. You didn't talk enough about Mike Mills' guitar tone, which is magnificent. Also, it's Pete Buck's guitar tone.

Uh-oh. Sorry, Pete Buck's guitar tone. That's true. That's right. I think the bear is great. And I'm happy for you guys. And, you know, I felt like I was very fair on this podcast. You were good.

I was respectful. I laughed at everybody. What are you talking podcast. You were good. I was respectful. I laughed at everybody. What are you talking about? You were fair and respectful? You've never been described that way in your entire life. Is this how you imagine yourself? At least I know I'm doing some kind of performance. Great statesman.

Thank God we had you there to have the Wagner group stand down as Amanda stood on the embassy at the stairs and said ladies and gentlemen working girl guys let's not start go home and watch working girl come on

what is the argument here is it working girl or last crusade or working girl or American graffiti that is the argument it's which of those three movies

I think we should do working girl and American graffiti oh interesting and no last crusade yeah I mean I don't know I mean like

I understand why we have two yeah no I get it we have two Han Solos and two Indies and that's half of the Hall of Fame the true peacemaker

over here thank you so much yeah you are you are like you're R. Kissinger I agree I agree I agree to it

American Graffiti and Working Girl go into the Hall of Fame that means we're leaving on the cutting room floor from the attendant Yellow's Apocalypse Now Return of the Jedi

he's not really in that movie that much the Mosquito Coast Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Air Force One I think people will grouse about that

and the Force Awakens which I thought was an interesting nomination. I'll give you credit for that. I just think that of all of the kind of like, I'm going back in time, this was the one

where I was like, he actually seems like he really wants to say goodbye to this character in a special way, which isn't to say nothing about Dial of Destiny. I'll let you guys

talk about that. What's your most illogical I really want this in movie that isn't in? Is it Morning Glory? Yeah. I think he's really good in that. And to Chris's point, like that's our last movie is 1997.

Crazy. So he is still doing things of value. Our last movie is 1994. Oh, 94. Oh, because we didn't even do. That's 29 years ago. Right. But it's like I have still been glad that Harrison Ford has been making movies for the last 30 last 30 years i think because of that maybe he just means a hell of a lot more to us

well bobby does he mean anything to you uh i mean i grew up a gigantic star wars fan so he was like the basically the first movie star that i cared about and had an active investment in but like a lot of those like 80s and 90s movies i did not see obviously when i was a kid and like have only been able to return to a few of them so I don't know if he means definitely not as much as he does for you guys but uh he's like again the coolest guy ever so Han Solo is the greatest character of all time Cruise, Denzel, Julia Roberts, Hanks, Harrison Ford those are the ones we've done no who no who do you think is at the top of the heap?

Cruise, Hanks, Denzel, Julia Roberts. I would say that that is the quintet of power over the last 40 years. Who's the top of the heap currently? All time. Oh. I mean, I was... You used the rewatchables context to frame it. Yeah, yeah. Well, as I said, because Mission Impossible is coming out soon, I've basically been toggling

between Mission Impossible, Cruise, and Harrison Ford, which really kind of set up that dichotomy in my head. I think that they all do different things. Yeah. I think Denzel has the most, like, I'll never forget performances. And Denzel has the most variety, I would say, in the types of movies. He can do a lot of genre. Harrison Ford is the best at genre.

Tom Cruise has one very specific genre, which is Tom Cruise jumping off of things, plus the 80s, 90s, I'm doing working with great directors. actor runs. So Denzel has all of the above and kind of continues to make good movies. That's the other thing is that, did we do Denzel Hall of Fame? I believe we did.

I think we did with Shay. And I have to assume that we had something from the last 30 years in it. Well, Training Day. Training Day. Yeah. I mean, he was just nominated for the Tragedy of Macbeth. Right. Yes.

He's still doing great work. He's actually just, he's pretty good in Equalizer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, if you like, it may not be your cup of tea, but he's pretty awesome in it. The Harrison Ford Hall of Fame

is as follows. American Graffiti, Star Wars A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Blade Runner, Witness, Working Girl,

Presumed Innocent, The Fugitive, Clear and Present Danger. I think that's good. I think that's representative of what we like about him. Agree. Agree. You know?

Yeah. Well done. Any final thoughts? Who's next? Who are you scouting for a Hall of Fame? That's a really good question. I don't think I have a single one planned for the rest of the year right now. I think we have a whole mess of Martin Scorsese content. But none of them are going to be Hall of Fames? It says Hall of Fame on the dock.

Oh, okay. Wow. Bloodbath. That's a tough one. Yeah, I guess so. I guess it'll be tough because there are like seven or eight musts and then like two or three. Yeah, two or three like passion projects. That's a hard one. I don't know if we've ever done a director's Hall of Fame. We did Nancy Meyers Hall of Fame. Nancy Meyers. But did she even have 10 films?

Yes. As a writer. I think we counted writer and director. Who should we do, Chris? By the way, my answer to that is Cruise still. Your answer is still Cruise? Cruise is of all of those people. Yeah. Who should we do, Chris? By the way, my answer to that is Cruz, still. Your answer is still Cruz? Cruz is of all of those people. Yeah.

Who should we do next? None of those other people ever tried to make a Magnolia. Cillian Murphy Hall of Fame? Pass. Who else? We've already done Julia Roberts. Craven the Hunter Hall of Fame? Best Craven the Hunter issues?

Does Clooney have anything coming? Did we do Clooney? Well, he's directing The Boys in the Hunter Hall of Fame. Best Craving the Hunter issues. Does Clooney have anything coming? Did we do Clooney? Well, he's directing The Boys in the Boat. Right. Which is coming out on Christmas this year, I believe. Did we do the Clooney Hall of Fame? We did Julia for Ticket to Paradise. I can't remember if we did a Hall of Fame.

That would be an interesting Hall of Fame just because he's got like the peaks are about as high as they get. And the valleys are really low. Yeah. get and then there's a lot of valleys. Really low. Yeah. It's tricky. We did do it. We did. Okay.

Yeah. What was the Clooney Hall of Fame? Batman and Robin Out of Sight Three Kings The Perfect Storm Oh Brother Where Art Thou Ocean's Eleven

Good Night and Good Luck Michael Clayton Fantastic Mr. Fox and The Descendants. Oh yeah. Okay. No Siriana. The film for which

he won an Academy Award. Which he also had spinal fluid leakage. That was tough. We did that on December 26, 2020. Have you seen Siriana, Bob?

I have not. I don't think you'd agree with some of its politics. Do you? I don't have to agree. I just have to be entertained. Did Siriana

predict Liv? That's right. I think it did. I think it predicted PIF. Yeah. I've seen Six Underground. I think it predicted PIF. Yeah. I've seen Six Underground. Not afraid of it. No more closing thoughts.

On Harrison Ford or on the future of the Hall of Fame? Either one. I love Harrison Ford. I think I would, I could have gone for, oh,

we're going to be here for another 10 minutes if I ask this prompt. Okay, go ahead. I'm not sure we have that 10 minutes, but go ahead. All right. You have a hard out, I bet.

What's a movie from the last 10 years that you're like, man, I wish Harrison Ford had done this? Like in his prime or at the time? The Harrison Ford that has kind of been like, I'll do Rick Deckard and I'll do Indiana Jones and I'll do Han Solo, but I'm not really working that much anymore. Like what's a movie maybe from the last 10-15 years they're like

oh he would have been awesome in this. Replace Robert Redford with him in All Is Lost? Yeah. That's a great answer. That's a great answer. Which one is All Is Lost? The man alone on a boat?

Yeah. I thought you were going to say what was the other really good recent Robert Redford? The old man in the gun. The old man in the gun. I wouldn't replace Robert Redford there because it's about the gun the old man in the gun I wouldn't replace Robert Redford there

because it's about charm yeah I think he's too old to have done it but he's they're they're yeah they could do that

switchable he's definitely too old to have done it but like Captain Phillips is like yeah oh probably right on the edge

so he would have been a little too old 60 you know 70 yeah okay so that probably was tough a little too old I would have loved it

if he had just taken one or two like random Chris Cooper roles, you know? Yeah. What if he had done August Osage County or if he had done, you know, something,

I don't know. What if he were Bane? That would have been good. How would Bane as Harrison Ford sound? Exactly the same. what if he was the Gillen role he's just in there

for a couple minutes why does he wear the mask get off my plane that would have been a good callback nothing for you I'm thinking you don't want to end this pod

it's beautiful I can tell to end this pod it's beautiful I can tell yeah drive my car it's nice spending time in Harrison Ford's world no I get it Nightmare Alley

do you think he would have been good in past lives yeah in Greta Lee's part Greta Lee's part yeah I think he would have done very well there

he basically does what Greta Lee does in past lives he does in the David Blaine show where he just can't believe take our breath away

he can't believe the wonder of the world he just starts crying it's true yeah well it's been a weird podcast thank you to our producer Bobby Wagner

who's here in studio with us for his work later on the big picture this week Mallory Rubin joins Amanda and I to talk about Indiana Jones

and the Dial of Destiny and we're going to rank all the Indiana Jones movies which we've kind of given away our hand, I think, a bit on this podcast. I'm curious what Mal will bring to the table. Me too. We will see you then. you