The Big Picture - The Movie Star Liquor Taste Test

Episode Date: July 31, 2023

To celebrate Amanda’s birthday, Sean, Amanda, and Bobby gather to taste the various liquors, wines, beers, and mixed drinks endorsed or owned by movie stars. While tasting, they discuss the stars�...�� careers—past, present, and future—and whether their business projects are to blame for the shift in their focus away from the silver screen. Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Senior Producer: Bobby Wagner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, it's Bill Simmons from The Ringer, and this is a podcast called The Rewatchables. We have been doing it really since 2017. It started with how much we love the movie Heat. We decided to structure a whole podcast with categories, most rewatchable scene, who won the movie, Apex Mountain, what age the best. But here's the thing. If you want the full archive, you can hear them only on Spotify, for free, by the way. So make sure to follow The Rewatchables on Spotify.
Starting point is 00:00:36 I'm Sean Fennessy. I'm Amanda Dobbins. And this is The Big Picture, a conversation show about drinking booze, which is not usually what we do on this show, Amanda, but we're changing things up a little bit today. We typically lament the death of the movie star, but are we failing to celebrate the movie star liquor mogul? That's the big question that we'll be asking because we're just going to be drinking all
Starting point is 00:00:59 of the alcohol that movie stars make, which is an idea we came up with well over a year ago to celebrate your birthday yes my last birthday yes we're recording this in advance for your new birthday so happy birthday thank you so much thank you i we did not get to do this last year um nor did i get to celebrate my birthday last year because i got covid and thus we didn't record it and then we were going to try it again in October when Bobby Wagner was in town and then Sean got COVID.
Starting point is 00:01:30 And so now we all three are here together. So I'm like, am I going to be the one to get COVID this time? You have. We are recording. I have had it, yes. This has been 14 months in the making. It's an idea we came up with in deep quarantine, ironically. And maybe it doesn't make as much sense quarantine, ironically. And maybe doesn't make
Starting point is 00:01:45 as much sense now, honestly. But maybe it does. What do you think? Is this just an excuse to get drunk on the show? Yes. But also to talk about movie stars. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:55 So that's fun. It is fun. So what we're going to do is, and I'm sure this is going to be an audible delight, is getting to listen to us clink glasses, drink alcohol
Starting point is 00:02:07 we've never tasted before. I've actually never tasted any of the beverages we've selected today. I've had several. It won't surprise anyone. How is that even possible? Yeah, some of the Indians
Starting point is 00:02:18 you have actually had one of them. You've never accidentally ran into a Casamigos? We won't spoil it, but yes. I'm not so sure. Even the most obvious ones I'm not sure if I've ever had. Well, anyway, but yes. I'm not so sure. Even the most obvious ones, I'm not sure if I've ever had. Okay. Well, anyway, the other thing I want to say in terms of the
Starting point is 00:02:29 liquor that we're about to drink is that I did purchase some of the actual liquor over a year ago, and then it's been in my garage. So from a quality control perspective, I'm not sure what we're going to find here. The same is true for everything I acquired well over a year ago. And so it could be poison. Yes. So if we all expire, this has been a wonderful final episode of this show. I've loved making it with both of you.
Starting point is 00:02:56 There are a lot of rains this winter, Bobby. I don't know if you heard about that. I did not plan to go out this way at work. Drinking expired tequila, but okay, that's fine. We're not technically at work. We're actually in my garage. We're in... It's beautiful. So were they in here?
Starting point is 00:03:08 This is climate controlled. Yes, they were in here. Oh, mine were not in a climate controlled environment. So if we die, it's because Amanda poisoned us. Because I poisoned you with vodka. Okay? No spoilers for any of our future imbibing potions. I'm going to bleep that in post.
Starting point is 00:03:24 I don't know how to set this up. There's no game. There's no winners. There's no... I don't even know what the end point will be. We're going to go as hard as we can go for as long as we can go. You think so?
Starting point is 00:03:37 We were talking a little bit about the order before we started recording. And I think we should explain to everyone how we decided upon the stages. Right. That we will, because the alcohols can be grouped into three categories. Number one, like liquor, which is where we're going to start because, you know, we also, we all went to college and learned, you know, beer before liquor and never been sicker.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Liquor before before beer you're in the clear right and never fear never fear yeah that's what i that's also what i learned wow generational gap at work here already then there's a wines section there's a wine section which we've put second because that's that's how i am and it ovens like to progress my evening you know and then go hard in the paint with some dirty mezcal. Yeah, I do really like mezcal. And then you downshift to wine. That's another thing.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I wasn't able to find Dos Hombres. I know. They weren't selling it at Target this afternoon. So that was really- It's only on Instagram, I guess. On the one hand- It's the only thing I see on Instagram. That's a tough beat because I really wanted to taste
Starting point is 00:04:41 the brotherhood of Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul together. Yeah. On the other hand, those guys aren't movie stars, so it's all good. That's a good point. That's true. They're great television stars. I was also startled when I googled it how pricey that mezcal is, but maybe it was a short run. Most of these spirits are not cheap.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah. And that's, I mean, part of the inspiration for this was the fact that not only are movie stars dwindling every day, but many of them have shifted their focus to other businesses. And our first tasting, I think, is sort of the Elvis Presley on Ed Sullivan of maybe not the first celebrity to have a liquor brand, but the first movie star to really knock down the walls. And also to put his face on the trucks. And also to sell the brand for an extraordinary sum of money. Right. So I'm talking, of course, about Casamigos. Yeah. So you've never had Casamigos. Well, it's possible that in ordering a cocktail and getting whatever their version of a well liquor would be that I would get served
Starting point is 00:05:42 a Casamigos or in a casino or something like that. But I've never poured Casamigos in my own home. I don't think I've ever had it in a friend's house. And so I have no value judgment. Why are you talking about it like that? You're talking about it like you're in the 90s and it's like a moral panic. It's fine. Now, that being said, there is a bottle here that is three quarters drank. Right. Because I have a wife. So is this what she's using to make the margaritas that she's been making that are delicious, by the way? No comment on that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:14 You don't know or no comment? No comment on the no comment. Okay. I don't think it is because this is... There's going to be so much bad liquor information. This is like a gold tequila. Is that right? It's not silver, which we learned recently when trying to make margaritas at home is what you're supposed to use in a margarita. Yeah, gold is...
Starting point is 00:06:36 Well, this is a reposado. Right. Thank you. Yes, that's the correct terminology. So maybe it's not in the margaritas. That said, we have definitely had casamigos at every party that we've ever had at our home which is that true yeah how many parties have i been invited to your home a lot at this point probably two a year i was just since i've known you
Starting point is 00:06:56 fantastic one on july 4th oh yeah all the listeners of the show that are friends with amanda that were not invited yeah that is sad it's really not the producers um i know i'm sorry it was sort of last minute and a lot of children, but I am actually, Bobby, feeling terrible in this moment. It's okay. You also would have been
Starting point is 00:07:10 great childcare, you know? Like, Chris was running a day camp. Oh, how did that go? But I really am sorry. He was the one. It's okay. I don't think of you
Starting point is 00:07:17 as a Los Angeles resident, you know? I ask that you not be invited. Okay. The other thing, do you drink tequila? You, Sean Fantasy. Well, I love that you not be invited. Okay. The other thing you don't, do you drink tequila? You Sean fantasy. Well, I'm certain I love margaritas.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Right. But you're not like when you're like, I don't have never ordered Casamigos. That's because you don't. It's I, I don't, I very, that's a lie, but just had a big pour there. Okay. Yeah. I very rarely drink non-brown liquor straight. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:45 You know what I mean? I mean, same. I don't do shots anymore. I certainly did my fair share of shots as a young man. Right, but it wouldn't be tequila? Well, maybe I should consider it, you know? Oh, Bob, I was going to hand this to you. I think tequila straight up is Bill Simmons' spirit of choice.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Okay. Is that right? I think so. And I think he made a shift at a certain point in his life because, correct me if I'm wrong about this, because i don't actually know if it's true but i feel like fewer calories yes easier to navigate your intake because when you go when you get hot with tequila like it gets hot quick that's very true unless sugar you know like a margarita has a lot of sugar which is digested quickly and thus leads to a hangover i'm just gonna say right now before we
Starting point is 00:08:24 drink this i despise tequila and there's like seven tequil a hangover. I'm just going to say right now before we drink this, I despise tequila. And there's like seven tequilas on here. So I'm just going to rock through it. Just know that my opinion is not going to be biased. I'm going to reiterate that I think I am my best person after one and a half margaritas. So I'm going to peak early on this podcast. About like minute 24. And then it's going to get really ugly.
Starting point is 00:08:42 That's really funny. Yeah, it's one and a half. So I'll try to parcel it out. I also, I just want to give people like a experiential sense of what's happening here. Plastic cups left over from a party with one ice cube. Once this is service ice. Okay. Learned about this in my bartending course.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I bought limes today and then I forgot to bring them. So I apologize. And no one has opted for the margarita salt but it is there bob do you want some margarita i'm good i'm good yeah before we have a have a sip sure this is a critical moment here um bobby has done an incredible amount of research into the origins of each of these liquors oh yes so at least for this one i'd like to read what is described here as the origins of this spirit. So, long-time friends George Clooney, Randy Gerber, and Mike Meldman
Starting point is 00:09:28 love Casamigos. On the rocks, by the shot, at times, straight from the bottle. Tequila-filled nights with friends is how Casamigos was born. How interesting. Our idea was to make the best-tasting, smoothest tequila and mezcal that didn't have to be covered up
Starting point is 00:09:44 with salt or lime. So we did. We make it sound so simple. Can I add onequila and mezcal that didn't have to be covered up with salt or lime. So we did. We make it sound so simple. Can I add one more thing? Because I didn't paste that into the document from their website. Casamigos was made just for us. We worked on the creation of Casamigos with our master distiller in Jalisco, Mexico for years and held many blind tastings until we knew we got it right.
Starting point is 00:10:01 We've been drinking our tequila and mezcal with friends and family for many years. It was never intended to be released to the public. It's all we serve at our homes in Mexico. So it's literally our house tequila. It was never intended to be released to the public. It is also all I serve at my home in Mexico. Is that true? Do you think that's true? I do not believe that to be true. I believe
Starting point is 00:10:19 Randy Gerber, George Clooney, and their investors. Can we take a sip of tequila now? Cheers. This will be the last time we cheers on this because we have many more drinks to investors. All right, can we take a sip of tequila now? Let's take a sip. Okay, cheers. Cheers. This will be the last time we cheers on this because we have many more drinks to go. I'm just going to take one sip. Yeah, same. That's great.
Starting point is 00:10:33 We're going to have to do better than that. Yeah, well. We're professional podcasters. I appreciate. Describe the essence. What does it say to you about yourself? Right. Chill has nothing to do with tequila.
Starting point is 00:10:44 So this is just gonna be like Chris Ryan doing tasting notes I can't believe Chris isn't here can we text him we we certainly can he declined to attend oh yeah he said no he said
Starting point is 00:10:53 no he was he RSVP yes yeah and he had to pivot I believe he had to watch rewatch the idol in full okay that he said he was gonna do okay Chris likes to make up notes of tasting notes
Starting point is 00:11:06 in various things that he drinks. Yeah, I'm getting tennis ball. I'm getting garden hose. Is that what we have to do? Yeah, we did. Well, I think we should try to describe the experience. Well, one, already one sip of tequila. Yeah. I've hardly eaten today. Sure. I can already feel it. I can feel it coursing through my veins. I already feel energized and depressed at the same time. Did the homestay order go through? I believe it did. Okay, I just want to make sure I didn't follow up on that. We have ordered tacos to take care of ourselves today.
Starting point is 00:11:32 The amount of SponCon right now that's happening, just so many brands. I love it. We're going to navigate these conversations very carefully and thoughtfully. I want to have more of this. I want to have another sip. Now, this would be a huge error. To have two sips of tequila. To double at the on the first step of a i'm gonna have a second sip you are casamigos
Starting point is 00:11:50 i already had a second i already had it you did i just had a small sip well i had a big pour you want it i gotta say delicious it is pretty good i don't even like tequila and it's pretty good it's not it is confirms for me that all the times that a bar that i was at like a shitty brooklyn bar that i was at said that it was serving me Casamigos, it was really just some like not, you know, some well liquor
Starting point is 00:12:09 that was not this. But Casamigos is relatively affordable, is it not? It's pretty expensive. Is it? Yeah. I don't want to seem out of touch here.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I'm not a big liquor buyer in the first place, so I don't really know what's going on. How much could one banana cost? I also bought all of these bottles literally over a year ago, so I have no memory
Starting point is 00:12:23 of what they cost. I would say that it's middle of the market. It's like second shelf. Yes. Not top shelf, but second shelf. One thing I'd like to say about Casamigos is, have you noticed that they have just been rerunning
Starting point is 00:12:37 the Casamigos commercials from like 2013? Again, like wide through sports. Everyone looks great congratulations to George and Randy they didn't have to film another commercial but
Starting point is 00:12:49 it's just still 10 years have passed and those guys are still on the side of the van and in that same commercial was it the Casamigos sale that led to the extraordinary George
Starting point is 00:13:01 Clooney I gave all my friends suitcases with a million dollar story no I think that that was predated. I believe that that was ER money. ER money? He made a lot of money on ER, didn't he? Well, that's like
Starting point is 00:13:13 1998. Well, I think it was like maybe post ER then into movie star territory. I do think. You think it was the peacemaker check that he was doling out? Yeah. Could have been. Because Casamigos was sold in the last decade, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:29 For like $4 billion. I've never been on a podcast, bar none. What are all the other times you've been drunk on a podcast? I'll never tell. Okay, great. Can I describe quickly the Our Story backsplash page that they have here? Yeah. It's a photo of George Clooney and Randy Gerber looking up to the camera in the sky.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And what appears to be the agave farmers all wearing straw hats around them toasting. Is this the company from which you learned a lot about agave? No. No. Okay. All right. So we'll save the agave facts. I'm really excited to learn about agave from you.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Okay. So what's our... Do you want like a dump? I think we should have a dump cup. Okay. And I feel terrible about wasting all this. Maybe I'll have one more sip here. This is a big mistake on my part, but.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Okay. Yeah. So we have a modified spittoon that we're mostly just pouring empties in. If you like, but that might mess with the flavor. Actually don't because our next, we're not going with another tequila, which is a dangerous move. What I do want is to be thematically linked. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Okay. So I already, I know where you're segwaying. This is exciting. I've been talking about this particular liquor for many years. And yet I still don't know exactly what type of booze it is. So Bobby, can you give us the the details yes i can um from the website all caps what the fuck is singani 33 impeccably clean and undeniably mixable singani 63 is a 500 year old bolivian spirit distilled from muscat of alexandria alexandria
Starting point is 00:15:02 grapes high in the andes pretty fucking far from the United States. Lucky for us, it travels well. Yes. This is, of course, is one of the many pet projects of my second husband, Steven Soderbergh. Not technically a movie star, but a great capturer of movie stars. Yeah. movie yeah and pretty early into the let me have a side project that is an extension of my brand but also in like classic soda rick faction is kind of weird and i don't even know like is this a what style is a vodka is it i guess we'll find out i for some reason i thought it was like a brandy
Starting point is 00:15:42 at some point i don't know i would like to let everyone know it's clear. I believe it is like a brandy liqueur. Okay well it's clear. It's clear. It's from the muscat grape. I know Bobby just said that. Okay sorry. Yeah in the Andes. Have you ever been to the Andes? I haven't in fact I've never been to South America.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Okay. Have you Bobby? I've not ever been to the Andes. Okay. I've been to Central America but never South America. Okay. I've never been to Central America. I've been to Brazil so. So you should America. Okay. I've been to Central America. I've been to Brazil. So you should know.
Starting point is 00:16:07 You should know what this is then. Well, I don't think that the Andes are that close to Brazil either. What role did you play in Bolsonaro's rise? Shall we? What do you want to do? I don't think we did a very good job of describing Casamigos other than delicious. I mean, it tasted like chilled tequila. That's the other interesting thing about's the other interesting thing about it was smooth it didn't burn did it did not burn did it remind you of the cool desert no sure did it remind you of a lovely evening garden party at
Starting point is 00:16:36 amanda dobbins's house no you would never know he's never been invited what are you still waiting feeling really bad that's bobby just you know that's not really the taste of the garden party at my house there's a whole second chapter of this podcast what are we talking
Starting point is 00:16:50 about like Campari wow this has got a funky odor to it we don't have any Campari here which is really sad this is kind of wine-ish
Starting point is 00:16:57 I guess from the grape but a liqueur from the grape are there other liqueurs from the grape it is interesting that you put this second I do understand
Starting point is 00:17:04 that George Clooney and Steven Soderbergh have a beautiful connection. But this is like more of a dessert. It's awfully syrupy in there. I haven't tasted it yet. I gotta say. Okay, I'm gonna taste it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:20 It's not as sweet as I expected it to be. It's not very sweet. It's not as sweet as I expected it to be. It's not very sweet. It's not syrupy. It was very smooth at first blush and then a bit of a sting in the back of the mouth. It's very fruity though. Yeah, there's a lot of aromatics happening. Yes. Is this good? No.
Starting point is 00:17:39 So here's what I would say. You guys are going to get a real glimpse into judgmental me. You know, I'm usually just quiet and nice on the pod. So let's just consider the fact that all sponsorships are open opportunities here long term. I'll use an Amanda. It's not for me. There we go. It's not your taste.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I don't think that we're drinking it at the right time in this experiment. Is it more of like a 3 a.m. I've had my head slammed against the wall 300 times kind of a thing. Yes, exactly. No, I think it's like an after dinner situation it tastes like something that a bond villain would drink i had grappa once and it's not i had grappa once can you make that the first of many ridiculous pull quotes from this podcast but you know after lots of heavy food and many drinks it's it's cutting right through. But we had it second.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And now you want us to go back to tequila? I think so. Okay. I think, well, shall we stay on tequila, you think? I think that might be good with a soda. But straight, it's a little bit much. It's funny because I know that Soderbergh says that he will drink it straight. That's actually in the verbiage.
Starting point is 00:18:41 He's been making this for a long time. It's sold on his website, Extension 365. Singani 63 is the name of the liqueur, I suppose. I don't even know what you would call that. It's a kind of like, kind of a vodka substitute, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:18:57 It's in that category. In that realm, right? Yeah. But it has more flavor than. More grape flavor. Yeah. Grape flavored vodka. that sounds not ideal. It seems like a...
Starting point is 00:19:07 Definitely exists. A vodka or gin substitute. Oh. I see. So they have a recipe on here called a Synthonic, like a gin and tonic, but a Synthonic. Oh, nice. Okay. Perhaps we should have cooked up one of those.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I feel bad that I forgot the limes. Everything that we're doing here is straight consumption. We have no mixers because we want to understand the pure essence of these spirits, right? How many spirits before I text Eileen and I'm like, can you bring out the Campari? That's not part of the equation unless Chris Pratt buys into Big Campari in the next six hours, which I don't think is going to happen. That'd be great. Nevertheless. That would be tough for me. What if Big Kampari buys back into you? What if they buy your time away from the big picture
Starting point is 00:19:48 to do more full-time marketing work? I don't know if I am... I don't have full-time marketing in me, but if they would like to buy ads on the big picture,
Starting point is 00:19:57 obviously, I'm available for that. So is Bobby. I would welcome advertising from Singani63 as well. So would I. I use Kampari
Starting point is 00:20:04 in my daily life regularly. Your daily life? Yes. You may want to consider easing down on that. You know what's nice though in the summer? A Campari soda. You know, just like the tiniest little hit. I'm just going to clean my palate of Singani with some water.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Okay. I'm going to have another sip just to make sure. While you do that, can I say Soderbergh's website here, a lot of like really I'm a bad boy energy to it. Okay. Do you think that that's like his personality or do you think that this is an affect? I think it's a mockery of the salesmanship required for these kinds of brands. Yeah. The same way if you've seen Schizopolis, you know his contempt for like a commercialized world.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Yes. I'm going to have a potato chip, which is my preferred drinking snack. But I'm going to hold the microphone down so people don't have to listen to it. We'm going to have a potato chip which is my preferred drinking snack but I'm going to hold the microphone down so people don't have to listen to it. We're going to go back to tequila. I'm going to pour this tequila so you guys will have to vamp.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Every time you see me reach for a bottle I need you to not be chewing on potato chips. I did announce that I was going to have a potato chip. So Bobby, another thing about the Amanda Dobbins
Starting point is 00:21:00 garden party vibe potato chips in a bowl is the number one appetizer. Really rubbing it in. Great. I'm trying to. I want everyone to know I'm not offended. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Sure sign someone is offended to saying I'm not offended. I feel really bad, but he lives in New York, you know? So it just didn't. Were you in the city this weekend? Well, we were doing a barbecue thing, so I don't think that I would have been able to make it anyway. I feel slightly less bad. Great. Classic.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I had other plans. Sure you did. I'm not slightly less bad. Great. Classic. I had other plans. Sure you did. I'm not going to invite you anymore. Why? I'm so fun. Yeah, you're great. I get to tell great stories. You did bring a delicious pie.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Oh, thank you. I didn't make it. It was chocolate and the rest of it is in my fridge. And maybe after I have 25 liquors, I'm going to eat the rest of it tonight. It's a abuelitos pie from the Pie Hole. I don't mind getting spawn out for them because they do wonderful work they really do yeah i love local if anyone wants to know my preferred chip brand is um kettle potato chips sea salt party size we have at least three of these party size
Starting point is 00:21:56 bags in my home at all times um i do also like a cape cod chip but i have to tell you they're not selling those in the quantity like the bag is so small at this point. I need to be able to buy party size. Okay, let's go to our next tequila. You told me to vamp. I appreciate it and I won't be acknowledging any of your thoughts. You don't like potato chips. I don't dislike them, but I feel the grease is too profound.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I gave your daughter her first potato chip. You did. She sat on my lap and ate a potato chip. That's the kind of knowledge and life inspiration that I want to be handing down to Alice. Fascinating moment for me because on the one hand, I was like, God, you know, my daughter, I love her so much. Amanda, one of the dearest people in the world. And on the other hand, I was like, my daughter sitting on Amanda's lap eating potato chips
Starting point is 00:22:38 isn't a nightmare. This is at the base of hell. This is what you find. Showing her the possibilities, you know? She already likes potatoes. Oh, she loves potatoes. True Irish gal that she is. All right, so our next tequila is Terra Mana tequila.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And this comes to us from Dwayne The Rock Johnson. Wow. Now, is Dwayne The Rock Johnson a proper movie star these days, given the failures of some of his more recent projects? You know, we never talked about the Fast X stinger because you were so upset and you had such contempt for everyone involved. But most of all, I think Dwayne The Rock Johnson. Well, I thought it was kind of sad. It was sad.
Starting point is 00:23:20 I thought it was extremely sad. I thought he was making an effort to separate himself, given what the reported tensions between Vin Diesel and himself. Sure. He thought he was embarking on a new era of Black Adam. Yeah. And Red Notice 2. And then the failure of some of his projects kind of just felt like he was crawling back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:38 What do you say to the swirling allegations that that's similar to you and Chris's relationship? Vin and Dwayne? Yeah. Who am I in that equation? Whoever you want to be. I think I'd like to be Dwayne, but I'm probably more like Vin. I think you are. Which is unfortunate for me.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Yeah, that's tough. Know thyself. Definitely can't carry the direct emotional scenes, so. But without me, there is no franchise. And you care so much about family. That's so true. All right. So, Terramonana tequila this is
Starting point is 00:24:06 from their literature is about people at taramana we have a simple goal to create a high quality responsibly sourced tequila that brings people together like family one that starts conversations like this one creates laughter and moments to appreciate those along with us on this journey of life taramana means spirit of the earth. Oh, yeah. I can see that. Okay. How long has Terramana been operating, Bobby?
Starting point is 00:24:32 Do you know? Did they teach you about agave? They're not the ones that taught me about agave. I don't know how long Terramana has been around. Their website. I just saw a picture of Ryan Reynolds staring into the camera when you went to their website. Oh, that was for a future. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Their website has quite a few videos of men, including Dwayne The Rock Johnson, walking through agave fields. Sure. Just walking, not speaking, walking. This is also a reposado, I should say, not a blanco. Have you ever run into an agave plant? It hurts. I have not. I haven't heard.
Starting point is 00:25:04 It hurts a lot i did no i was running and one just kind of like got in my path a little like unexamined aspect of the dobbins experience a little klutzy me yeah i know yeah it's charming but like thank you no i don't have a center of gravity yeah um and i'm not sure on my feet yeah so what we got to do is get more booze. My first sip of this was good. Not bad. But it might be also that I'm on my third booze at this point. I'm not. I actually didn't have that large a launch, which in retrospect was a mistake.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Terramana launched in 2020. Okay. This is pretty good. Brand new. I actually, is it possible that it's smoother than Casamigos? I think it might be. Or we might be drunk already. I like Casamigos better. You did. Oh, okay. Because I don't like tequila and this
Starting point is 00:25:51 tastes more like tequila. So this is a small batch and in fact it's got a hand numbered bottle. It's a little earthier. This is DTA 1613 bottle P6044. Wow. This is gluten free. 100% pure agave all right that was solid i thought that was pretty good i was surprised is that the last tequila that we have here no we have do we
Starting point is 00:26:16 have flecha azul here i really thought that i spent like a hundred dollars on that yeah this is i went to a very cool liquor store last year in um i mean like pasadena altadena border and they carried like all the deep cuts including fletcher azul so fletcher azul for anyone who is listening at home and is wondering what the hell that is comes to us from a man who no longer resides in California. He lives in Nevada. Sure. Where he's moved his entire base of operations. One of our biggest movie stars, Mark Wahlberg.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Is he still one of our biggest movie stars? Well, we dinged him on our 35 over 35 because he had moved primarily into Netflix territory and Father Stew territory. Right. And the Father Stew movies, you know, all the family stuff isn't even doing that well. I didn't see Father Stew territory. Right. And the Father Stew movies and all the family stuff isn't even doing that well.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I didn't see Father Stew. Nor did I. So I can't really weigh in on it personally. I tell you what, Fletcher Asul looks pretty good. So you're getting an ice cube
Starting point is 00:27:18 and the rest of us aren't? No, you can have an ice cube. Okay. Do you want me to help myself to an ice cube? Sure. Okay. And maybe help Bob as well.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Okay. I kept my ice cube from the last run. Oh, that was smart. So we're, contamination is just happening at this point. Bobby, here you go. Thank you. Thanks for bringing this over, Amanda. You know, we split responsibilities.
Starting point is 00:27:37 This is crafted authentically in Tequila Jalisco, Mexico, and made to be enjoyed around the world. Not really much pub on this one. Is this a big successful brand? What's the deal with this? I've never heard of this brand before. This is also a hand-numbered bottle. But they were the ones that taught me about agave.
Starting point is 00:27:52 All right, agave facts, go. Did you know that it was produced using the finest blue Weber agave? Have you ever heard that term before? No. Blue Weber agave. The land that they used to produce this is more than 5,000 hectares of the finest Blue Weber Agave. Beautiful and calm, set on the slopes of the historic Jalisco Volcano. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:13 So they grow in the rich soil of the Jalisco Volcano. Many of my favorite wines are grown in volcanic soil. With the unique attributes... Everyone just left that hanging. With the unique attributes that enable the agave to fully mature within the fullness of the land's natural volcanic water source and climate. Agave Azul, Blue Weber, is only grown in small regions of Mexico located in Tequila, Jalisco. Okay. That's all I learned. Shall we try it?
Starting point is 00:28:39 Oh, I already did. Sorry. Jesus Christ. I didn't even get any. Oh, you're falling down on the job. And Bobby was like doing a lot of vamping and also educating us. So tequila Jalisco. So is tequila like champagne where it can only be tequila if it's from? I don't know the answer to that, but that does sound reasonable to me.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Bobby, did they teach you that? They did not teach me that. But they did teach me that the plants are only harvested at full maturity, which is eight years old. Wow. Eight years the plant has to grow. Okay. This is very different.
Starting point is 00:29:06 It is. This feels more watery. Yeah. This, wow. You can really taste it. I feel like Jimmy just plugged in the electric guitar here. Okay. In a good way or a bad way?
Starting point is 00:29:19 Not in the bad way. Oh, you like it? No, I don't. Oh. Well, it's just not. It's not for you. I don't care well it's just not i feel it's not for you i i don't i don't care for it either but is that does that mean like maybe it doesn't have any like sugars in it or any like
Starting point is 00:29:30 this also has been in the garage for a year oh this is a rat poison well that explains it it's one of the ones our apologies to to yeah so we'll see whether it's consistent across the... After full maturity, our hemaduras use a sharp tool called a koa to remove the thick and sharp blades of agave
Starting point is 00:29:50 to expose the agave's heart known as the piña or the pineapple. Oh, okay. Intriguing. So it said that it grows on the slopes of the volcano.
Starting point is 00:30:00 So grapevines also are supposed to grow on a slope. That's where they do the best. That's right. Correct. So this is just, are all things best grown on a slope or is it just tequila and grapevines? My home is actually on a slope as well.
Starting point is 00:30:14 That's true. I'm growing a young child every day. So perhaps that is the case. I thought you were going to say and we have some figs, which you do. We do have some figs. I would not eat those. We have grapes in the very back of our house. Did you know that?
Starting point is 00:30:23 Grapes? Yeah, because our house is also on a slope. I mean they they look weird and we haven't eaten them but we grow loquats in our backyard which are uh quite unusual yeah i had literally never heard of that until you said it quite confidently when i was like what fruit is that and we're like well it's a loquat i was like sure well they exist they don't really have a lot of flavor much like this not terrible but not this is really watery yeah it is a bit watery runny um that's the other thing it doesn't have like um texture like viscosity yeah so one when i was pregnant i tried very hard to with to find like a liquor
Starting point is 00:30:59 substitute that worked and there are many like tequilas tequilas is one of the areas where they like you were craving the taste of alcohol cocktails no so what what i was craving was the experience you know the glass the ice cube like all the sorts of things but um i didn't want anything you're a real estate thank you so much i didn't want anything carbonated because that felt like a different experience that felt like group three of our and also um non-alcoholic beers they've got down those are amazing and so when i wanted something carbonated i wanted that but you know if i wanted a cocktail i tried because there are so many non-alcoholic liquors but they haven't figured out like the the thickness basically i see they're like the actual volume of the alcohol And this is missing it as well.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I have to make a confession. Yeah. Because I've had four drinks, I'm only getting every eighth word you're saying. How different is that than normal? Do you want some potato chips? No, but our food has arrived. Do you want some tortillas? Why don't we get our food? Oh, good. Okay. Oh, great. We'll take a quick bite, take a quick break, and we'll come back and we'll re-begin. All right, we're coming back. We've consumed some tacos and we're going to shift to clear liquors.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And then come back around to brown. We'll close with brown before heading to Wine Town. Okay. We're going to be fucking waxed by the time we get to Wine Town. Let me tell you. Wine Town's worth the ride. So this next drink is pretty critical, I think, in the movie star liquor game. It comes to us from an artist that I have a complicated relationship with. I'm referring, of course, to Ryan Reynolds.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Oh, this is right. I forgot that he had this before he made a billion dollars on cheap cell phone service. Which, no shame in that. Yeah. Ryan Reynolds is, of course, one of the providers of aviation gin. Of course. Which is very popular now.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Apparently there's a twist cap on this aviation gin bottle. This is batch distilled gin. 42% alcohol. Okay. Yikes. Straight gin is certainly a choice. It's not one I make very often,
Starting point is 00:33:22 even though I mostly drink gin. This probably is nice in a martini. I haven't tasted it yet. Yeah, you're a martini guy now. What gin are you using for your martinis? That's a really good question. I like an Old Tom gin. I'm not sure if that's acceptable in your classic martini,
Starting point is 00:33:38 but in my bartending class days, I learned a lot about Old Tom gin, which I quite enjoy. I'm a Tanqueray guy myself. Tanqueray. We are as well at home. Yeah. Tanqueray is okay. Plymouth, I think, is a little nicer. Okay. But I don't know if I- You can buy some for me anytime. You own Plymouth? No, I said that you can buy some for me anytime. Oh, for you. Okay. Well, I'm drunk, so. All right. Okay. So gin- Bob, this is interesting because Bob and I drink a lot of gin as Negroni enthusiasts.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I've had this many times, so I don't want to spoil. You've had aviation gin many times. Have you had it straight? Never straight. Yeah, that's the thing. We don't really have any juniper berries on offer here. To compare and contrast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Okay. But I say we dig in. All right. Three, two, one. Here we go. Oh, that's magnificent. Wow. Don't you hate it? How good it is? Wow. That's really go. Oh, that's magnificent. Wow. Don't you hate it?
Starting point is 00:34:26 How good it is? Wow. That's really good. First time I had it. It also, this is so funny because I realized that like- Ryan Reynolds,
Starting point is 00:34:33 you did it. He's so back. Deadpool 3, let's go. Ryan Reynolds is back. Sean before- Free guy. Wiped from the permanent record
Starting point is 00:34:46 you know what's so funny though is that that just tastes like being 18 to me because now I'm realizing like all the times I made like quote gin and tonics with like one inch of you know not even an inch of tonic that is a good gin that is very good
Starting point is 00:35:03 one of my favorite bars in New York called Syndicated. It's in Bushwick, Brooklyn. It was around the corner from where I lived my senior year of college. They had aviation there, and that was just like their regular gin. I guess they just had a contract with them or something, but there's also a movie theater in this bar. So I went there a lot, and I was like, aviation, this is good. I'm going to check it out. And then I was duped.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I was backdoored into finding out it was a Ryan Reynolds thing. And I hated myself for it, but I had to, you know, gently tip my cap to him. Game recognized game. So he didn't start this, right? He got involved in this. Am I right about that?
Starting point is 00:35:36 That's correct. When did he get involved? Because I'm looking, I'm not even, actor Ryan Reynolds acquired a stake in the brand from Davos. Not that Davos.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Yeah, I was going to say. In February of 2018. But this brand started in 2006. So he tasted this and said, I want in. Gotta hand it to him. Yeah. So this is the Ryan Reynolds who was so exceptional in what movie? What movie did I enjoy Ryan Reynolds in?
Starting point is 00:36:03 Mississippi Grind. He's phenomenal. That's exactly what it is. That's exactly what it is. did I enjoy Ryan Reynolds in? Mississippi Grind. He's phenomenal. That's exactly what it is. That's exactly what it is. He just took me right back to Mississippi Grind. He's also very good in Definitely Maybe, which is a 2008.com. He is good. What lovely movie about a father and his daughter.
Starting point is 00:36:15 That is true. Yeah. Should I revisit that too? Maybe Ryan Reynolds. Maybe I've got it all wrong. The thing about that one is that he doesn't wind up with Rachel Weisz, which is tough for him. Yeah. Because she's the second woman he visits. The thing about that one is that he doesn't wind up with Rachel Weisz, which is tough for him. Yeah. Because.
Starting point is 00:36:25 She's the second woman he visits. Yeah. And she's a political journalist for like basically New York Magazine. And he is working for the mayoral candidate, I believe. That's a pretty fun movie. Who are the other two women? The first is Elizabeth Banks. And the third is Isla Fisher.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Wow. And the. Three for three, it hinges on Isla Fisher's dad having written a note to her in a old copy of, I believe Jane Eyre, forgive me if it's a different Bronte. And then the, the old copy gets lost. And of course she's lost her father since then. And so then to win her back, Ryan Reynolds goes to every single used bookstore that he sees for like 10 years and finally finds the inscription but then maybe he hides it maybe he hides it from her for a while and then she finds it and is like you didn't give this to me immediately I think you should
Starting point is 00:37:16 definitely keep recapping the movie but also there's another secret of who is his daughter's mother of the three you know intriguing but do you want me to tell you who it is? Feel free. I don't think I can stop you. I feel great. I can see that. It's a good movie. I like that movie too.
Starting point is 00:37:38 So Ryan Reynolds, I just got it all wrong. I gotta follow my sword here. What are you talking about? The other thing I want to say. I've had three sips of this gin. This is the only thing we've had yet that i've had three four things i can say about ryan reynolds okay number one definitely maybe is a good movie okay number two so is mississippi grind yeah number three this gin's pretty good okay number four i read stanley
Starting point is 00:37:58 tucci's memoir and ryan reynolds seems like a genuinely very good friend of stanley tucci in that book okay he seems like a good guy yeah is the Stanley Tucci in that book. He seems like a good guy. Yeah. Is the thing. So that's four things. Okay, great. Okay. Well, Free Guy stinks. But otherwise, I'm prepared to open my heart up again
Starting point is 00:38:15 just in time to get Hugh Jackman as Wolverine back in my life. So I'm looking forward to Deadpool 3. And I'm looking forward to acquiring some aviation gin. Well, you have some. It's there on the table. It's a small bottle. I actually looked for the smallest bottle possible because I was trying to support the least amount I could but maybe I made a mistake.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Now I need to buy a giant. Bob, you don't buy aviation gin at home. I don't buy aviation gin at home because it's not as easy to find and I like Tanqueray just fine. Okay. But you would. It's like the more affordable option. I'm not opposed to it at all. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:46 No, I would buy it if it was right there and available. I also like a gin called Gray Whale. Wow. Which is a local California gin. If you ever find it on, it's in a blue bottle. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:58 If you ever find it on your shelves, try it out. It has my seal of approval. Gray Whale. This is exciting. Okay, so this is, I guess not technically a movie star, but this is an actor that I care about quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And I've just seen him in a movie that I'm not prepared to talk about yet. Great. I love it when you do that. I love it when you talk about movies that you're not prepared to talk about and or meetings that you've been to that you can't talk about. You know, I think the listeners love it too. They do.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Everyone thinks they're very cool. Getting a lot of good feedback about not giving details on things. It's really good content. And I hope you keep doing it. Oh, you didn't take the plastic off. No. You blew it!
Starting point is 00:39:38 See, what did I say? Give me a little tequila. Okay, so this is Mulholland gin yes this this label looks a little instagrammy i'm not gonna lie yeah i that which listen i buy a lot of products off of instagram um and we're recording this not long after threads has launched which you know imagine if threads is opened and closed by the time this airs but But that's the thing. It could have. It definitely could have. All right. So I'm pouring three fingers of Mulholland gin, which comes to us from... That's not even one finger.
Starting point is 00:40:11 I'm in one each. But that's not even... That's not... Is that a finger? It's an Alice finger. It's a... Yes. Please stop insulting my child's fingers.
Starting point is 00:40:19 I... It comes to us from Walton Goggins. Oh, interesting. Who many people will know as one of the stars of Justified, perhaps one of the five best shows of the 2000s. Returning this summer,
Starting point is 00:40:32 City Primeval, a new miniseries. Can I Google what movie he's on right now so at least I can? You certainly can. Okay. It's coming out in August.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Okay. I will say that I liked it. He, of course, is one of the stars of The Hateful Eight. Quentin Tarantino. Yes. Very, very good actor. I think he's on...
Starting point is 00:40:50 Is he on Righteous Gemstones right now? I think he is on Righteous Gemstones. And one of the funniest guys around. So hopefully this gin is good. The summary here. This is our new world gin made for the gin lover in search of a new twist or for the newcomer looking to leap into a brave new world. They've got big shoes to fill
Starting point is 00:41:05 following up aviation. I don't know that your internet is fast enough for me to be doing this right now. Fair enough. Cheers. Cheers. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:41:14 This doesn't really taste like gin. No, it doesn't. I'm actually getting more juniper. Yeah. A lot of an herbaceousness. Something fruit. It's lighter? Forward.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Pine cone. Okay. You ever just take a big bite of a pine cone? How is pine cone that different from juniper? Well, juniper, they're like small little berries. Oh, that's true. That's right. Juniper, pine cone is.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I understand now how they're different. Now that you said that. I just wasn't really thinking through it. It's okay. Our next drink is pine cone liqueur, which I'm pretty excited about. So you'll get a sense of the difference. Well, like I said, we set the bar high with aviation. And this is not quite as good as aviation.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Not bad. I don't know... I just think it's different. How about that? It is different. And it's not... I wouldn't call this a classic gin. Would you, Bobby?
Starting point is 00:42:06 No. Can I say something about their website? It's not good. Okay? It's not good. It's a lot of text. It's hard to read. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I would describe it as Pinterest meets Rag and Bone. Okay. Wow, just a shot at Sean Fennessey. Meets Big Nick Money. I love Rag and Bone. We know. We talked about it on our podcast earlier. I like their denim the I love rag and bone. We know you talked about it.
Starting point is 00:42:25 I don't like their denim. It's it's I've thought about that. What's wrong with I've thought about it like five times. Rag and bone denim is
Starting point is 00:42:32 very normal. It's just speaking of like sense memory. If that if the aviation gin straight was like me being 18 then you being like rag and bone denim is important is
Starting point is 00:42:43 like me being 26 again in New York just being like I need to hit this sample sale i'm not saying it's important right it's just something that's in my life all the moment of time that is not like this moment in time but i like they still have a great many uh a great many stores are they not no they're doing very well okay they sort of you have grown out of it you've moved yeah okay i have okay will you ever have another sip of maholland gin in your life? If you offer it to me at your home because you have a large bottle. I'm going to be ill soon.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I just want you guys to know that. It just doesn't taste like gin. Yeah. It's like... Did you start wearing... Almost fizzy. Did you start wearing rag and bone because one time Rusillo said that he wears rag and bone jeans on the spot? No, he does not wear rag and bone jeans.
Starting point is 00:43:24 He does. He does. This is... Where are you that he wears rag and bone jeans on his pod. No, he does not wear rag and bone jeans. He does. He does. This is, where are you guys learning about rag and bone? Where is, What are you talking about? You're 40 years old.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I know, but like, Learning about them? Yeah, no, seriously. He was editor of GQ. That is true. But like, what do you think is the decision tree
Starting point is 00:43:39 that leads to Russillo buying rag and bone? Like, is it Instagram ads? A lot of carefully curated research. Okay. Because Ryan Russillo buying Rag and Bone? Like, is it Instagram ads? A lot of carefully curated research. Okay. Because Ryan Russillo does his homework. So like, what are the websites
Starting point is 00:43:51 that are out there being like, hey men, in 2023, buy Rag and Bone jeans. I don't need fucking websites. I get out in the world. Okay. I touch the clock. No, you don't. I know for a fact that you just ordered
Starting point is 00:44:02 a lot of clothes online and your wife was worried about you returning the ones that didn't fit. Did you return them? Everything fits perfectly. Okay. Because I am sample size. No, actually your husband is. My husband is sample size.
Starting point is 00:44:12 It's incredibly annoying. It's so annoying. Must be nice. He'll spend like four hours in a store because everything fits him. I'm like, can we move on? Can we go live our lives? I feel like I'm a little too tall or a little too short for everything it's really frustrating most people feel that way that's the experience actually but
Starting point is 00:44:30 i'm six feet tall like that shouldn't that be no but they either masculine ideal they're trying to okay relax am i not the masculine ideal you have a lot of thoughts on masculinity recently more about why uh yeah i'm going through it no here's the thing is that they're like they're trying to make one garment fit as many people as possible right so if they're making them for tall people then they're making it for men who are like six feet to six three six four i think i once dated a guy who was six four and he had to buy like he couldn't wear normal jeans because they were too short a guy who was 6'4", and he had to buy, like, he couldn't wear normal jeans because they were too short. You dated a man who was 6'4"? Yeah. Was it?
Starting point is 00:45:07 Who's the funniest person I can think of who's 6'4"? PJ Tucker. Yeah. That's even better than anything I could have come up with. Yes, you guys are correct. You dated PJ Tucker? Yeah. Was he as scrappy in the boudoir as he is on the court?
Starting point is 00:45:19 All right. Was he a 3 and D wing defender? My husband is listening to this. Steven Soderbergh, I mean. Okay. We're opening up a second bag of ice. He tuned out when I said that Singani 63 wasn't for me. I think he respects
Starting point is 00:45:37 an independent voice. You know? Okay, so I'm going to just drain this. I'll keep my ice cube. Yeah. It still keep this ice cube. Yeah. It still has its structural integrity. Oh, God. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Okay. It's me. Okay. So this is Vodka 6100, which is the aforementioned vodka released by Robert De Niro, or Bobby, as my dad calls him in emails. Bobby has had a lot of success in other retail and hospitality ventures. So I'm open to this being good.
Starting point is 00:46:16 On the other hand, I have not had vodka since I had too many screwdrivers at an 18th birthday party and vomited a lot lot you haven't had vodka since you were 18 i mean no that's not true but i like vodka straight yeah when would i have i mean i was never one of those vodka soda people me you know that's that's boring uh vodka makes me pretty punchy oh good okay And brings out a side of myself
Starting point is 00:46:45 I don't like very much. Okay. I never drink it. So gin martinis for you? Gin, always gin. Oh, yeah. Always gin. I...
Starting point is 00:46:56 Well, here's what Vodka 6100 has to say. You haven't tasted vodka until you've tasted Vodka 6100, bringing you purity from New Zealand and attitude of new york to bars across the globe bob's note here is that this website is very new zealand forward but is also giving huge black and white new york tumblr core vibes okay i think that's probably the last time that bobby de niro looked at the internet was when Tumblr was available, right? Yeah. If that. Listen, thank you for Nobu and for your body of work in the acting space, Robert De Niro.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Bobby Wagner, you're right. I've had vodka since I was 18. Because it just went into every single punch in college, you know? Unfortunately, yeah. Is Svedka a national phenomenon? I've had Svedka, yeah. I've had a lot of Svedka in national phenomenon or was that just yeah that was I've had a lot of Svedka what was your local like plastic handle plastic box Svedka for you at least I think it was mine was called Bankers Club featured in the Asher Roth song I Love
Starting point is 00:47:56 College okay wow I profiled Asher Roth for Vibe Magazine he went to my high school um are you just googling vodka right now I was just making sure that Robert De Niro is still associated with this. You never know. I don't want to blaspheme anybody here. He is. I looked up on their website. Oh, okay, great. Well, let's try it.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Okay. I'm taking a small sip of this. It's important to note that the vodka in Vodka 6100 is spelled without a no. Just so everybody knows. That's going to be a no from me, dog. Oh, it's okay. I mean, the thing about vodka, right, is that it's not supposed to...
Starting point is 00:48:27 Most vodkas aren't supposed to taste like anything. I didn't feel like that tasted like anything. That was just sort of neutral, which is a positive, right? It tasted like alcohol poisoning circa 1997 to me. I remember it. You don't have to tell me. It's like a Georgia Tech party
Starting point is 00:48:44 just vomiting in a it's a me problem it's a me problem okay i think this is pretty good i respect robert de niro and all that do you yeah what do you make of him having another child well i think that he is a man enjoying the world i'm gonna say like he seems there was less to do about that than Al Pacino, his colleague and man of a certain age, also having a recent child. He just seemed like he was having another kid and he was excited about it. Since we're just having a great time and we're just sitting in my garage surrounded by all this wonderful physical media that I've acquired over the years, which has been a wise investment, thanks for asking. Should we just put on heat? Okay. I actually was thinking
Starting point is 00:49:25 that I would read from the Oliver Stone biography that's about a foot and a half away from me as we record this podcast. Have you not read that? I would just read passages from it. So you didn't read it
Starting point is 00:49:33 when we read it for the most deranged episode of this podcast ever during the D podcast? No. That is a wild ride, Bobby. Yeah. You should,
Starting point is 00:49:41 it's pretty amazing and you should get on it. Okay. Especially given our other project that we're working on yeah totally and also it helped me understand boomers and uh i don't mean that positively or negatively it's just kind of that's sort of like a boomer text and then zadie smith's um new york review of books essay about tar is the core Gen X text. And what's this?
Starting point is 00:50:10 We're continuing on with vodka. And we're actually, gratefully, getting to our first spirit hosted by a woman. Oh, right. This is King Street Vodka, which comes to us from Kate Hudson. And of course, Kate Hudson is on the sticker. You guys know about Fabletics? Yes, I do. I cannot escape the Instagram ads from them.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Can I pour you some King Street Vodka? Oh, sure. I thought I had some already. You want to dump that out? Oh, this is still Bobby's? Yes. Bobby De Niro, not Bobby Wagner. Why don't we get you some ice?
Starting point is 00:50:40 Thank you. Sean, do you know about Fabletics? I do not. I feel like if you're getting rag and bone ads, then you should probably also be getting Fabletics ads. Well, now that we talked about it, you're definitely going to get Fabletics ads. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:52 It's Kate Hudson's athleisure brand. I didn't know that that was owned by Kate Hudson. I don't know about ownership structures on any of these things. You know what I'm saying? So she's associated with it from a marketing perspective. She's the face of it.
Starting point is 00:51:04 I hope that she got a cut, you know, because she's really's associated with it from the face of it i i hope that she got a cut you know because she's really out there promoting it and like doing interviews well i there are a lot of variations and definitions of the word design in that context um i i'm sure she has some input you know um i don't know if she's like in there like doing the high tech fabrics or whatever I'm not I'm not seeing any updates on a critical
Starting point is 00:51:29 piece of information for my life oh which is jury duty yeah so for the listeners at home I I have to report to jury duty uh maybe
Starting point is 00:51:37 tomorrow so of course we've decided to do this in the evening before jury duty but they're not showing me any details here it's 7pm is it
Starting point is 00:51:44 yes okay you just said it was 630 it's only 624 right now I thought it was actually 6 I know before jury duty, but they're not showing me any details here. It's 7 p.m. Is it? Yes. Okay. You just said it was 6.30. It's only 6.24 right now. I thought it was actually 6. Yeah, but it's not. It's 7.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Okay. Well, we'll just keep that portal open. You want to Google Fabletics? Yeah, I will. Okay. Let's take a look. I'm in the market for some women's athleisure. This actually is sort of the interesting thing.
Starting point is 00:52:00 They have men's athleisure too. Yeah. Well, there haven't been that many women appears Kevin Hart is participating in this company as well oh really yes he is
Starting point is 00:52:09 is he an investor he has some favorites Kevin Hart's favorites shop Kevin Hart's closet okay there he is Sean if you're in
Starting point is 00:52:15 the market for oh and he posts and everything these are oh I know this yeah you know because it's a golf brand
Starting point is 00:52:20 it's like pretty successful yeah this is not my speed but I get it the women the women movie stars and women celebrities who have these brands they have so many other like way more successful whether it's like clothing or lifestyle or you know honest which is the jessica alba like baby
Starting point is 00:52:35 emporium which honestly they're pretty good alice wears honest diapers we we did honest wives for a while but now we're a pampers family. But I do... This has been just spawn riddled. What else did you think? I told you it was going to be. Anyway, so the women actually have more successful companies than, you know, random boutique. That's a good point. What did you make of Rihanna being elevated out of CEO into executive chair of Savage Fenty? She got interned.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Yeah, except actually she... Did you discuss this on jam session did i miss it what rihanna yeah no this was when i drafted the intern and couldn't remember what happened remember and i was trying to tell you about emily weiss the yeah but the savage fenty come up in this conversation no because it was afterwards okay um i was asking about rihanna i well so i think that she is still do you want to just recap all the intern while we're here? In the end, she stays on. I have an intern story for you. And she sacrifices her life in order to remain the business, the head of...
Starting point is 00:53:34 No, I was asking about Rihanna. I know. Well, so here's what I'm saying is that I think Rihanna is about to have her second child, has many businesses, and doesn't need to be in so many goddamn meetings. So what you're saying is she can't have it all. No, she is letting someone do the bullshit so she can continue to have the creative vision, says the man who makes a slide deck every day. Yeah, I feel great about that.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Yeah, good. I'm glad. It's important to go forward. Can I tell you my story about the intern? Yes. 2015 film featuring Robert De Niro, who we're no longer talking about. Oh, right. When I was an intern, actually, when I first got hired full time and we were making the
Starting point is 00:54:08 bumpers for our segments on the Oscar show. Yes. And we have a segment called The Big Picture, which we don't really do anymore. But Sean had specific quotes from movies that he wanted me to pull and use in those bumper segments. I remember them. And one of them is Anne Hathaway, the intern, saying this is a problem in the big picture.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Yet Sean sent me the IMDB pull quote from it with no time code. So I spent hours just looking for it. I basically watched the entire intern to find that quote. You know what that was? You're welcome, Bobby. A test. That was a test.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Yeah. You passed. Thank you. And that's why you're sitting in my home today. What did learn from the nancy myers film the intern bobby i was like let me see if this fucking guy has got what it takes i'm not even indulging this right now why why not i just we're talking about the intern with a successful intern who has risen to the level of super what he learned from the film instead of your like weird you know corporate mind games I learned that it's important to be nice to everyone that was your takeaway who in the intern taught you that Robert De Niro he is very nice and then at the end he winds up
Starting point is 00:55:17 in a new relationship with Rene Russo who is the company masseuse right there's also a great moment since that happened in The Irishman where Anna Paquin says you're not seeing the big picture that I also wanted to get you to clip but I'm not going to tell you where it happens in that movie. I'll just rewatch that. Anna Paquin says four words in it so you could just fast forward until she's talking.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Wait until she's on screen. That's a good scene though. She's a wonderful actor. Unfortunate what happened to her in that seven hour movie. Not being able to participate in it. That was tough good scene though. Yeah. She's a wonderful actor. Unfortunate what happened to her in that seven hour movie. Not being able to participate in it. Oh yeah. That was tough. Pretty smooth.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Yeah. As a non-vodka drinker. But I also did think that Robert De Niro's vodka was smooth as well. Yes. But you like men of a certain age. So there's no accounting for taste there.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Pardon me that I respect our wisdom and not. Yeah. You respect your elders certainly. Okay. I'm going to have another sip wow of vodka okay
Starting point is 00:56:08 quote I'd like to congratulate Kate Hudson a female led craft vodka we'll drink to that that's from their website that's pretty good it is I think you were a little hard
Starting point is 00:56:18 on on BDKA 6100 I do not okay I rejected it um it was not personal I just well you're not getting a table at Nobu I know but what I will be doing is 6100. I do not. Okay. I rejected it. It was not personal.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I just, I can't. You're not getting a table at Nobu. I know, but what I will be doing is gaining an ownership stake in Wrexham after my review of Aviation Gin, which I'm really excited about. And I'm a huge fan of that club, so. Where is it? Wales?
Starting point is 00:56:40 Yes. I think I'm Welsh. Yes. You think you're Welsh? I think so, yeah. Have you, did it just dawn upon you? No, I just, it came up. Just think I'm Welsh. You think you're Welsh? I think so. Yeah. Did it just dawn upon you? No, I just think it came up. Just something in the air.
Starting point is 00:56:49 I think it's Welsh-y. No, I think Knox is actually a Welsh name. Sure it is, yeah. Let's go with that. All right. Should we call it? You want to call your dad? He doesn't know. You have to ask him next week.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Okay. All right. So we've completed the clear liquor portion of our tasting. Yep. Oh, wow. That was fast. We have two more liquors. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Two more spirits. And then we move on to wine and soft drink. Okay. Our next challenge is what I have been told is an exceptional challenge amanda you brought this over for us yeah and i'm very excited this is wild turkey long branch bourbon comes to us from matthew mcconaughey now it's just occurred to me that in fact i have had this before also it just occurred to me did you take that lid off before you removed the plastic, or is the lid like that?
Starting point is 00:57:48 The lid was like that. Okay, so that's just in the garage. There is an ancient demon living inside of this bottle, which has been open for one year. That's troubling. It's just like pressure that pushed the cap out. Okay. We're going to go with that. All right.
Starting point is 00:58:02 This Long Branch bourbon, i think was came around in 2021 to some fanfare oh um it was expensive i do remember that yeah i think it is a little bit more premium expenses um sorry i'm glad that you didn't give me that that dust on the bottle in my poor thank you for that i did try to clean it it It is hand-dusted, all of the bourbon here. So there was, for a time, actually one year ago at my 40th birthday, which took place in a movie theater, there was a cocktail served. And I had a Long Branch Surprise or whatever the fuck it was called. And so I have tasted this before and I loved it.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Okay. I think it was with a little bit of lemonade. We don't have any lemonade here today. That seems right. I also missed that because of COVID Oh you did That's really Before you drink this
Starting point is 00:58:49 That was actually sad for me I was sad I know That wasn't great Can I read you But then I got COVID Can I read you from The story page on their website
Starting point is 00:58:58 Please do Because this is one of the more Verbose ones that I found I love these words that have been written So please dig in What if Kentucky took a road trip to Texas verbose ones that I found. I love these words that have been written, so please dig in. What if Kentucky took a road trip to Texas and introduced its very own small batch bourbon to some Texas mesquite? What if those two became best friends in a bottle?
Starting point is 00:59:14 A small batch Kentucky straight bourbon refined with American oak and mesquite charcoals. You might think that's a long way from home for a Kentucky straight bourbon, and you'd be right. But turning a what if into a that's it can be pretty tasty. So you have to, you really need to try a little more McConaughey. I'm not going to be doing that. You can call Chris for that. Yeah. Do you want to do it as McConaughey? I can't believe he turned us down.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Into a that's it can be pretty tasty. That's why I'm not doing it. No, it's not. You do like okay voice work, but your southern accent, it's not really there. That's okay. Texas though, you know, Texas is achievable. Sort of, but you know. Should we try it? Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:55 I don't really drink a lot of brown liquors or bourbon. Oh, that is incredibly smooth. Great. Wow. Ooh, that's nice. That's pretty good. I love wild turkey. Do i do yeah i never i mean i'm not against it i i just not something i go to very often but that is a lot of wild turkey
Starting point is 01:00:12 in my family growing up what do you think his cut of this is that's something we haven't discussed because there are some of these brands are original brands you know casamigos that was created by gerber and clooney and Co Wild Turkey is Wild Turkey Wild Turkey is an American institution right and so what
Starting point is 01:00:29 what is what does McConaughey get is he on a salary is it a one-time bonus is he getting 28% of every
Starting point is 01:00:35 bottle sold this is a great question I mean there has to be some who negotiates that deal for like a certain
Starting point is 01:00:43 number of years and it's it's I don't know. I mean, his agent? But is it not his film and TV literary agent? It's got to be somebody who, like,
Starting point is 01:00:51 is this a whole other job? Yes. There are plenty of people who are working on all that. So there's a guy at CAA whose whole beat is liquor. I think there's a whole department
Starting point is 01:00:58 at CAA. Yeah, of course. Is there a whole guy whose whole beat is apparel? Yeah. I think multiple. Is there a guy whose whole beat is Blarel? Yeah. I think multiple. Is there a guy whose whole bead is Blu-rays?
Starting point is 01:01:07 I don't know. I'm just asking for a friend. What about a guy whose whole bead is Mets season tickets? That's everybody. That's everyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:17 That's one of the best things about being friends with people who are good. Yeah. Great. They got the hookup. I would really like to go to a Dodgers game soon.
Starting point is 01:01:24 I went on Monday. We have friends that are there right now. Really? And they didn't invite us? They didn't. Is Chris there? Nope. But our friend Wesley Morris is there.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Oh, that's fine. Well, I'm happy for him. He deserves to go. I think he's having a nice time. They're playing the Pirates. They are. You were just there. I was.
Starting point is 01:01:40 For the Pirates. On Monday night for the Pirates. Yep. What'd you make of the Pirates club? Did Brian Reynolds play? He did. He was not very good the dodgers won um i was there with a group of my friends one of whom has never been to dodger stadium and i predicted a max muncie homer before his first at bat and he did homer and she thought that i knew some you know which yeah that yeah
Starting point is 01:01:58 that if they threw me in water i would float remember when we went to see the dodgers play the phillies and we took we went with my husband zach who is from philadelphia and we went with chris ryan who's also from philadelphia and it was the bottom of the night you forgot one person we went with we went with andy greenwald as well oh was andy there as well oh that's so rude the world's biggest live baseball fan andy andy is like not in my reaction shots of that night because what happened was the bottom of the night he's in the reaction shot in my mind the dodgers were losing and then i swear to god bobby they hit three back-to-back home runs bottom of the ninth and like the third one i wish you could have seen zach and chris and
Starting point is 01:02:44 andy's faces and then Sean sitting down at the end of the road just like laughing just laughing hysterically yeah it was I mean it was really fun I also was laughing and then I was like taking pictures of Zach and Chris being like lololol my loved ones who root for the Philadelphia team's experiencing pain I feel exactly the same it was amazing though it was very exciting three like three, like three back to back, like not even. I only care about like 14 people on the world and four of them were there and three of them were in pain and I was loving it. It was amazing.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Uh, I, um, I think it was a two run home run and two solo shots consecutively when they were down three. It was just magical. Excellent. I want to say something about Chris who took a,
Starting point is 01:03:21 uh, just an uncalled for a shot across the bow at Shea stadium on the watch podcast you know i heard this he called it a dump he said he never wanted to go there and he that he never actually went there first of all he's definitely been there in fact he probably went there with me second of all uh it was a dump but the only people who ought to say that are those of us who attended that dump on a regular basis over the summers and he does not have the power as somebody who spent plenty of time at veterans field to say shit about anybody else's stadium just putting that on the record okay i concur with everything you just said let's move on to our next bourbon okay this is our second bourbon
Starting point is 01:03:57 and i believe our eighth spirit eighth does that sound right maybe more let's see one two three four five six seven eight nine this is our 10th spirit this is a lot of drinking um we're being moderate we are we are being moderate but we're not no spittoons in use we are swallowing just want to make that understood for the audience at home okay i'm sure everyone appreciated that at this point in the podcast. Well, explain some of the banter, I think. This is BSB, aka brown sugar bourbon, and this comes to us from Jamie Foxx. Here we go. Just want you to know this is an ultra smooth whiskey with just the right amount of brown sugar and cinnamon. Perfect for sipping. Wow. Ideal for shooting. That definitely has brown sugar and cinnamon.
Starting point is 01:04:42 I smelled it. It smells like pancake syrup. Oh my goodness, smelled it. It smells like pancake syrup. Oh my goodness, it does. It tastes like pancake syrup. It tastes like a holiday drink, like a hot toddy or similar. I'm going to say right now, it's delicious. It's really good. Well, we're drinking it at the right point, which is like the after. I think it would be best if you dipped churros in it. Sure. It kind of has some churros energy.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Or if you like put it in coffee or hot chocolate or something. Yeah. I'm going to put some of this in a coffee and then edit an episode of The Big Picture and see what happens.
Starting point is 01:05:15 When I get to my late 50s and I'm still recording the show and I have 20 plus years of Big Picture under my belt and I'm like a grizzled old detective in the police department. And every morning I wake up. You're not that now.
Starting point is 01:05:29 I pour my coffee. No, I'm six months away from that feeling. Okay, great. I'm going to pour this in my coffee every morning. Okay. And before every recording. Like the beginning of Blade Runner? In 20 years?
Starting point is 01:05:42 Yeah. If you are, did you fail or succeed? That's a great question. Same question for you, Bob. Don't answer that. Same question for you, Bob. I won't be answering that. Honestly, my first thought
Starting point is 01:05:52 was like, okay, so Knox is like 21, hopefully in college if that's what he wants. Will we even have the higher education system in this country at that point? I'm like,
Starting point is 01:05:59 is that what he wants? Does it make sense? How many books will Knox have burned by that time? Knox loves books. I know. I know.
Starting point is 01:06:08 We love books. This is good, but not alcohol in a way. It's kind of like alcohol candy. It is a treat. This is one of the hardest websites to navigate that I had to visit. A lot of pop-ups? Not a lot of pop-ups, but it was one of the heavier web pages. It took about 45 seconds to load.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Oh, yeah. But once it did, I have to say. Like Gap.com. Exactly. Gap.com is a nightmare. Gap.com takes forever, and I'm just trying to buy some staples. You know what I'm saying? Once it did load, a lot of photos of Jamie Foxx looking very happy,
Starting point is 01:06:37 which I have to say was wonderful. We love Jamie Foxx. That was interesting. I was kind of warned about that one ahead of time that maybe it wasn't going to be that good. But it was kind of the perfect kicker. Yeah. Like an after dinner drink. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Exactly. Okay. Okay. It's wine time. And I somehow have taken over. I did most of the sourcing on this. You're the sommelier. By going to Target this afternoon.
Starting point is 01:07:05 And I did wind up purchasing mostly rosés. Several of the wines, or two of the wines that we're drinking are just rosés. And then one wine offers several different varietals, but I went with rosé for consistency. Okay. So we're starting with
Starting point is 01:07:21 a classic, which is Chateau Miraval from Provence. A controversial classic. Yes. Well, I was gonna say, so this is, I consistency okay so we're starting with a classic which is chateau miraval uh from a controversial classic yes well i was gonna say so this is i as as of this recording still co-owned at least in part by brad pitt and angelina jolie it is um one of the many fronts of their quite contentious divorce i believe angelina jolie tried to sell her steak but as a part of a financial who can really say i'm not i'm not involved in that divorce so i'm done but this is a very good one this is this wine is readily available at many grocery stores across the country which is i think why they're fighting over it because it makes a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Are you a rosé drinker? I will have rosé. Red is my wine of choice. I don't rarely drink white wine that doesn't have bubbles. Okay. Okay. That will change as you get older. You think?
Starting point is 01:08:16 I do. Why? Why? Hangovers, the tannins, it's just, like, heavier. Red is hard. Yeah. I mean, I did the same thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Yeah. Okay. I'm sure I've had Miraval before, I did the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm sure I've had Miraval before, but I don't drink rosé. Even though you're surrounded by it basically all the time. You and my wife and our dear friend Phoebe desire rosé on a daily basis, which is wonderful. In the summer especially. But there was a time there where I was a year-round rosé drinker, and I enjoy it. I guess I don't get it. I guess I don't understand wine that's like,
Starting point is 01:08:49 it's like drinking perfume. Well, this isn't quite like perfume. Do you think that's like perfume? Isn't it? No. Okay. It's like nicely scented summer water. I see. Put it on the bottle. Naturally occurring summer water i see um and put it on the bottle naturally occurring there actually is there
Starting point is 01:09:07 actually is one of the like rosé boom brands is named summer water and another one's named yes way rosé and i want to be clear i don't endorse any of that um but when it's done right it is like dry but with hints of you know the lavender and you know vineyard fields in provence where it's all made as all the best rosé is made i am a pretty strictly provencal rosé only type of gal even though we're going to drink some other wines from other regions would you say you like scalia are a strict constructionist no No. Okay. What is your thing with the Supreme Court? You always go back to that for your political jokes. He's a bad lawyer, so that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:09:50 I'm good at tasting wine. One might argue that it was his architecture that gave us the 21st century. Okay. Well, do you feel good about that architecture? This wine is not dry enough for my palate. Okay. Thank you, Bobby, for weighing in. I just had to stop the Supreme Court chat.
Starting point is 01:10:05 I don't think you're going to like anything else that's coming then, just so you know. You can't protect me. You know, like there's nothing you can do here. I've had 12 drinks. So it is what it is at this point. So Miraval, and then are you familiar with Whispering Angel, Bobby? No. Which is the other...
Starting point is 01:10:21 There is some on offer in my home right now. Yeah, mid-market widely available similar price point to miraval uh i i like miraval a little bit more but i didn't dislike that it was pretty good it's okay it's just it's also this is not quite as cold as the other roses when it's really cold and it's hot out like I can see how it would be very refreshing it's just like fancy Gatorade you know what I'm saying and that is like
Starting point is 01:10:48 what I want that's what I'm saying it's delicious Gatorade in that spirit you poured your out there's that I'm finishing mine let's keep it going
Starting point is 01:10:55 let's in the spirit of keeping them cold okay what would you like would you like the Sophia next why don't you you're the sommelier you create this tasting course
Starting point is 01:11:03 we'll go ahead on the rosé journey. So the next is a, is a California rosé, which. Violates all of your rules. Violates a lot of my rules, but it is named
Starting point is 01:11:14 after Sofia Coppola and it is made by the Coppola vineyards. As I look at the complexion of all these wines. It is a darker, it's, I mean, it's a different grape
Starting point is 01:11:21 and it's more, it's like towards Pinot. I mean, it's made in Monterey County. You know, it's a different soil. I like that, I mean, it's a different grape and it's more, it's like towards Pinot. I mean, it's made in Monterey County. You know, it's a different soil. I like that. I mean, I've obviously had this a million times because Sofia Coppola. As I understand it, this is an homage to the International Immobiliare subplot in Godfather 3. Is that true?
Starting point is 01:11:38 Yes. Okay. How did you know? International Immobiliare. You can also visit the Coppola vineyards i've been though not i've been not once but twice though not that's not where he he doesn't live on those he has separate vineyards i wasn't looking for francis i wasn't knocking on doors actually was and went to a different vineyard and and where he also lives and that's also apparently there are artifacts
Starting point is 01:11:59 of coppola's career yeah in the vineyard that you can visit that you can twit and sometimes you can try the sofia when we were there that sofia wasn't in the vineyard that you can visit, that you can tour. And sometimes you can try the Sofia. When we were there, the Sofia wasn't in the tasting menu, but this is widely available as well. They also do like a bubbling rosé in cans. This is not for me.
Starting point is 01:12:14 This tastes like... It's a bit sweet. Like I'm telling you, it is... Quarter waters in New York. You know you could buy quarter waters? Remember when... Like blue, orange, purple.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Phoebe and Eileen, it was right when I moved to California, and your wife and Phoebe were really into Jammies Inns. I do. Yeah. This has a Jammies Inn quality to it. Yeah. They pitched their B&B, which was to be called the Jammies Inn Inn. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:39 This sort of predated the Airbnb verbal craze when we were still thinking about bed and breakfasts as full-time businesses. It has it. Listen, like I said, California wine. How can you make sense of this relative to your love for Sofia Coppola? Well, let me ask you this, Sean. Is there a Francis Ford Coppola wine that you regularly purchase and consume? Couldn't say. Don't drink California wine for the most part. Exactly. So that's the thing. It's like, I also love the films of Francis Ford Coppola and it's like I'm not out there by
Starting point is 01:13:08 the Chardonnay. Do you like all of them? Do you like Jack? I don't like all of them, no, but I like a lot of them and I like that he tries. I want one from the heart. And I like his vibe and I love his Instagram presence. Rumblefish? Of course I like Rumblefish. Did you see that Sophia's Sight and Sound ballot, she put Rumblefish on
Starting point is 01:13:24 which I thought was Nepo baby you know what alright okay should we continue I didn't care for this it's certainly nothing
Starting point is 01:13:34 personal against Sophia or Francis both great artists Monterey County also a beautiful place to visit okay so I haven't tried this one
Starting point is 01:13:41 this is really exciting so this next one is Avaline which is a wine um released by uh cameron ds okay former movie star turned retired movie retired movie star turned wine entrepreneur and then katherine power who also uh does a makeup brand that i like quite a bit called merit beauty just in case anyone was wondering. You are looking for someone to send you that for free. I absolutely would freaking love a large box of Merit Beauty products.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Do you, I was told that Cameron Diaz got wind of the fact that we were considering 35 over 35 movie stars as an episode. And so she decided to retire so as to not have to face her fate on that. That's what you were told. Do you believe that? I don't. Have you kept up with that. That's what you were told. Do you believe that? I don't. Have you kept up with Cameron Diaz's Instagram presence? No.
Starting point is 01:14:28 She's married to one of the Maddens. Yeah, I don't remember which one. And the other one's married to Nicole Richie. Is Benji the Madden in question? I don't know. Okay. But Nicole Richie is friends with Catherine Power. You've already said her name.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Who set Cameron Diaz up. Whatever. It's made by both of them Who set Cameron Diaz up. Whatever. It's made by both of them. So this is called Avaline. I, once upon a time on this podcast, said that it was sugar-free, which is incorrect.
Starting point is 01:14:53 It is billed as free from... Can wine be sugar-free? You know what, Sean? I just corrected myself. All right. But it does say on this bottle it is free from... Did I let that fly?
Starting point is 01:15:04 Was I like like oh oh interesting no but it was sugar free it was still when we were zooming podcasting so you were like i don't think that's possible but you weren't checking my email yeah you weren't quite as mean um they they market this as like a very clean wine that was actually nice i i enjoyed that taste i'm a little skeptical bob do you even know who cameronz is? Yeah, of course. Okay. I like Cameron Diaz. I feel like she's step... Oh, but you almost certainly know who the Maddens are. Are you a good Charlotte fan?
Starting point is 01:15:31 Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you a good Charlotte fan? No. But I'm a Nicole Richie fan, so... You are? Well, you know, that was of an era. Another Nepo baby.
Starting point is 01:15:41 That's true. But you know who's also great is Lionel Richie. He's wonderful. What was Cameron Diaz's last movie? Sex Tape. Wasn't she in the new Annie? She was.
Starting point is 01:15:52 The Annie remake? She was. If that was her swan song that's not ideal. You know what is a wonderful performance by her though is in The Counselor.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Yeah, she's very good in that. Everyone's really trying their best. She apparently is going to be in Back in Action. Yeah, that's with Jamie Foxx but I don't know what the status of that movie is since jamie foxx's health problems yeah um annie oh yeah annie that's what i said i think this is pretty good it's the finish has a little more juice than i like but i think that might be why i'm responding
Starting point is 01:16:20 to it yeah but it's like more that's more of a personal preference. I'm impressed with this. It's a little bland. Do you think you said enough nice things for them for Catherine Power to send you stuff? I don't know. I was skeptical. Whoever that is.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Cameron Diaz and Shrek. She's an entrepreneur, okay? Shrek, a movie that you guys I've seen it. So I was took down. I was nervous because Cameron Diaz recently made
Starting point is 01:16:44 her own salad at Goop Kitchen. You guys know about this? Know about Goop Kitchen? I know about Goop. Okay, so Goop. You're just saying stuff now. I don't even really know what's going on. Goop Kitchen is the-
Starting point is 01:16:54 Is this more things are trying to get sent to you? What is going on? The thing is, Sean, is that you would fucking love Goop Kitchen. Oh, okay. Well, tell me more. It's just like, you know, roasted chicken on some greens with like a clean balsamic vinaigrette you know and everything is like all of their gluten-free whatever nonsense um but it's supposedly pretty good maintain the masculine ideal over here just so you guys know what's
Starting point is 01:17:17 wrong with that it's goop kitchen part of the new masculinity i believe so i hope so i believe to be a man older than 40 to dine alone in goop Kitchen is to truly know the heart of a man. You can't dine in yet. As of this recording, it's sort of a ghost kitchen situation. Let me rephrase what I said. There isn't anything east of Beverly Hills. To be the new masculinity, you must subscribe to Goop and build a kitchen that you dine in alone. Cameron Diaz designed a salad that was featured at Goop Kitchen. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:51 And then she like did. Designed a salad. This is such a thing. It's like a sweet green head celebrity salad. Yeah, it was like that. You remember McDonald's has celebrity meals. I design my salad every time I go to sweet meals. You got some grilled chicken, put it in.
Starting point is 01:18:03 You guys have lettuce? I would like some then what's in that thing that you shake is there juice in it that you're gonna spray on my salad
Starting point is 01:18:10 we'll take some of the spray juice lime squeeze lime squeeze I really like crunch I really like crunch and then she opened her fridge
Starting point is 01:18:17 and it was just like 800 airport salad containers of her salad and nothing else and she's like it has crunchy ingredients just like me and I was like I don't know what that means and so I didn't know whether we would have the same taste in wine but this is pretty good containers of her salad and nothing else. And she's like, it has crunchy ingredients just like me.
Starting point is 01:18:26 And I was like, I don't know what that means. And so I didn't know whether we would have the same taste in wine, but this is pretty good. I'm going to finish it. Why is the rosé the thing that made this podcast crazy? It's my area of expertise. That's true. You have the wheel.
Starting point is 01:18:40 And then all of a sudden, things got a little... We have one more. We have one more wine. The rosé is over. For you. But I might double tip. I'm like, there's a whole bottle of Mirabal open here, and it's Thursday night. You know what I'm saying? Get after it.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Your wife declined to come on this podcast with me, but maybe if I go into your house afterwards. It has nothing to do with you, I assure you. I know. Okay, so we have one more wine. Congratulations to Cameron Diaz and Catherine Power on Avaline. So the next wine is in vivo by sjp aka sarah jessica parker that's stylized as in vivo comma by sjp oh is it okay on the website
Starting point is 01:19:15 yes um so this has 90 points on a website that isn't the normal wine website james suckling.com don't know what that is. This is a New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc. Hold on. I got to finish my Abilene. Delicious.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Okay. I'm glad this is not a Chardonnay. I'm not a Chardonnay drinker. You know, no respect. Don't disrespect anyone who is.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Quote, the wines in our In Vivo X, SJP collection are made to a unique blend created by Sarah Jessica Parker and the guys at Envivo. Love that they don't get a name. Yeah. The guys.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Combine New York sass, the world's best wine regions, and New Zealand winemaking know-how, and we have a recipe for something very special. Guys, I'm checking my jury duty again. Okay, this is exciting. It's 7 o'clock.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Okay. Moment of truth. It's processing. I'm not sure if this site is loading right now and if it doesn't load then i'm not reporting okay i think that's definitely how the law works well i can be summoned let's drink to sjp so you wouldn't let me talk about and just like that recently on a podcast that isn't true sarah deskakberger is just doing incredible work on a just like that she is a wonderfully talented actress did i say you couldn't talk about it yeah you were like i already heard about this but that wasn't on a podcast that was before we began but then you it was like you said a bad tone and then i didn't want to talk anymore it's i have two toddlers in my life
Starting point is 01:20:41 i said a bad tone. You did. Is this good? I haven't tried it yet. Okay. There are a lot of flavors. It's definitely made from grapes. It's vacation wine.
Starting point is 01:20:55 I like that. It's like a lot of- What if I zagged hard and I was like, this is it? And you like it? Well, you do like something really dry. You're more in the New Zealand white wine family anyway. You like a gruner. More Austrian, but yeah sure but like the new zealand style is that very severe like clear this has like a lot of brightness yeah it tastes like wine that you get at a restaurant on vacation
Starting point is 01:21:18 somewhere like at a resort and i mean that in a positive way i love being on vacation at a resort i liked it that's as far as... I tend to like something slightly earthier, but that's okay. Conclusive wine,
Starting point is 01:21:32 pretty good. Yes. I'm actually surprised. By how well we did? By how good the wines are. Maybe it's the fact that we had 10 liquors before this,
Starting point is 01:21:42 but I'm like, sure, okay. Interesting question. Okay. This is... Things are about to get really weird. So we've got three soft drinks. No, because DeLola isn't on there. Oh.
Starting point is 01:21:51 So we have four. We have four soft drinks. Yeah. Should we start with DeLola? I feel like it's in the spirit of this stuff we're drinking. Well, it's in the color family. Okay. I don't even know what that is.
Starting point is 01:22:00 So, okay. So, Bobby, I'm so thrilled to tell you about Delola, Jennifer Lopez's new bottled cocktail experience. This is a spritz. Great. So, this is Delola spritz. There are three flavors, but I'm sad to say that the only one that was available at my local Target, which really came through for me this afternoon, is L'Orange, which is orange and passion fruit. So, this is an orange and passion fruit crafted cocktail with premium Amaro. It is gluten-free, has natural botanicals, and is 107 calories per serving.
Starting point is 01:22:33 So I have personally been exploring the pre-crafted cocktail because it's a very hot thing in the liquor business right now. So there are... You can get your pre-made old-fashioned, your pre-made margarita. You did bring like a ton of pre-made cocktails on vacation. I'm not wild about the seltzers,
Starting point is 01:22:52 but the pre-made cocktails, some are very good and some I find are very bad. So it's a really... It's a complicated thing figuring out what your brands are. We're not really doing any of those. Aside from this,
Starting point is 01:23:02 I will say, I love an Amaro. You do love an Amaro. Me too i have in fact i have amaro angelus up and up and i can't believe chris turned us down because he loves an amaro i love any digestif so i just want to let people know that this is just bright orange this is like the most unnaturally orange. It kind of, it looks like something you might find in a garbage fish film. I guess so. It also does remind me in Italy, you can buy Aperol spritzes like bottled.
Starting point is 01:23:32 They just sell them. And that is kind of in that spirit. Yeah. It's in that. I think it is in that vibe. So this is carbonated. Well, it says spritz.
Starting point is 01:23:40 So I'm going to open it and we'll find out. Okay. It's a screw top. Ah, yep. Okay. Hold on. Why don't you put your microphone down? says spritz so i'm gonna open it and we'll find out okay it's a screw top ah yep okay hold on why don't you put your microphone down i'm not hearing a lot of where is though okay where are you at on limoncello i see it i don't think i've ever had it really yeah it's sort of in the oh god it's sort of in the family carbonation here i'll tell you where i'm not is in the passion fruit family, so that's tough.
Starting point is 01:24:07 This is very orangey. Yeah. It's almost like a crush. Oh, simply enjoy over ice. Okay. Okay. Here's the ice. Help yourselves.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Jennifer Lopez recently did an Instagram where she was like, I do drink this occasionally, responsibly, even though she famously does not drink alcohol because how else are you going to look like that at 53 or whatever? That's a complicated thing to be advertising then. And people responded to it quite quickly. Also, obviously her husband is sober. So it's it, but I think it was a business opportunity and she took it. That's what Jennifer Lopez does. And I support her. It smells like V8.
Starting point is 01:24:47 It does. It has some carrot some carrot yeah this is orange soda yeah it is it's just orange soda yeah okay this is i like orange soda so do i i do fear that the amount of orange soda that i drank in my youth will come back to bite me one of these days because i don't think that this is naturally occurring in any way, but not bad. I mean, it definitely is just orange soda. I can't really find the made with Amaro liqueur, natural flavors and vegetable juice and beta carotene for color. There we go. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:15 Okay. That's my V8. Where's your V8? Okay. Do you think if I drank only this for a week, I would be okay? How would I perform in my job? Very is your job the big picture is your job jury duty that's a great question oh yeah refresh my job log back in the site is not working um my job is reporting every morning at 6 a.m to Daniel Lack about the status of the ringer how do you think that would go sir I've just completed my eighth bottle of Amaro soda.
Starting point is 01:25:48 And I'm here to report our numbers are looking excellent. We had a good July. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's check. All right. Should we want to go to the next phase?
Starting point is 01:26:03 Sure. Okay. Congratulations, Jennifer Lopez, on your continued continued achievement she's done it once again let's get a new cup given that this is full of uh orange materials and beta carotene yeah i don't know if we capture the moment when i cut my hand and put a band-aid on while trying to open a wine bottle because i'm 14 years old you know what i almost did it again that's a that's a really powerful wine bottle wine opener that you have i don't even know whose that is it I guess it was in my drawer. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. Not safe. Oh, well. Okay. So what's next? You want to call the phone number live? I don't think you can do
Starting point is 01:26:34 that when you get to this phase. I say like you have to log in and if you don't, you get penalized. Oh, I thought they said that you could call. I don't know, but let's start before making that call with Margalicious Margarita. Ooh. Okay. This is a canned cocktail, like I was describing. Great. I don't believe that this is carbonated. I could be wrong.
Starting point is 01:26:54 We're going to find out momentarily. Okay. This is ice cold, so I don't think you need any ice. Okay. Ooh. Yep, it's not. Is there any carbonation there? Maybe just the tiniest bit to keep.
Starting point is 01:27:07 The tiniest preservative. Do you like drinking out of a can? It certainly depends on what we're talking about. Yeah. Across the board, it's not really my favorite vessel for drinks. Pabst Blue Ribbon out of a can? Yes, I do. I certainly do.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Coca-Cola, sure. But would you prefer... what's your preferred vessel a giant glass bottle oh okay all right i'm a fountain soda girl fountain soda yeah interesting i do think fountain soda is just a different drink i think it tastes different i think it's sweeter i believe you um you know in our research around Margalicious Margarita, Bobby discovered that instead of giving a tagline for the drink, they just described the personalities of the three founders. Who are? Vanessa Hudgens, Ashley Benson, and Rosario Dawson. Okay. So that is two-fourths of Spring Breakers, and Rosario Dawson is the hottest person who's ever lived.
Starting point is 01:28:02 So this is exciting. Great. How did they wind up doing this together, Bobby? I genuinely don't know. No origin story? No origin story is available. Why does the website look like it's Great Gatsby themed? It's part of Thomas Ashburn Craft Spirits,
Starting point is 01:28:18 which is something that I don't know what that is. This is a very popular pre-craft cocktail company. In fact, during the pandemic, oftentimes if you would order a dinner, as I did every once in a blue moon, from a fancy restaurant, and you ordered a cocktail to come with it. It was this? More often than not, in my experience, it was this company, Thomas Ashbourne. There are only six reviews for this product on their website. They're all five stars.
Starting point is 01:28:42 Congratulations to them. It's described as fiesta oh sean made it in fiesta in a bottle okay fiesta in a bottle i tried it did you guys try it not yet okay you have completed your jury duty i fucking told you that you wouldn't have to go i told you we fucking did it. You're so happy. I've never seen you so happy. I'm happy for you. Yes.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Oh, wow. My scheme worked. Pro tip for all the listeners. If you are able to schedule your jury duty for July 3rd, I recommend it. All right. That's it. Okay. That was an expectation.
Starting point is 01:29:23 Yeah. No, I'm really excited for you uh what will you do with your strategy of scheduling this at this time was correct what will you do with your free day probably just go to the movies okay um i also have to go to the movies well maybe i'll see you there okay i'm going to the glendale lamley uh i do like it there yeah but i'm not going there okay what are you seeing joy ride shoot maybe i should join you 1 30 wow tomorrow yeah intriguing when do you leave i leave for ohio tomorrow morning okay oh that's right that's the life you want to share with the listeners where you're going i'm going to craig horlbeck
Starting point is 01:29:56 and liz kelly's wedding which by this time will have already happened congratulations to them we hope no i believe two people i love yeah I think their wedding is going to be phenomenal. I'm really excited. It looks like a swanky affair that I'm happy to be a part of. Yeah. You guys tasted this? I did. It is not good.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Yeah, it's just... Not good. That's margarita syrup. I think Rosario's into this. I don't think she's ever tasted it, honestly. But that's okay. That needs to be watered down. I don't think any of them have, but that's fine.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Is it possible because this has been sitting in my house for a year, it's gone bad? No, because it's like just too sweet. That's not how canning works. Isn't it? You ever have a can of tuna that's like two years old? Have you ever canned anything? The whole point is that it's being canned, so it stays good. Forever?
Starting point is 01:30:39 Not forever, but at least a year. I evaded jury duty. I know, I'm really happy for you. I can't believe it. Bobby, if you... I didn't ev duty. I know. I'm really happy for you. I can't believe it. This is... Bobby, if you... I didn't evade. I served.
Starting point is 01:30:47 I completed my service. This is what Sean looks like happy. It's very rare. An incredible sighting. When's the last time you saw me like this? I'm so... Between the combination of 14 cocktails inside of me... I know.
Starting point is 01:30:59 ...and this news... Listen, this is like you've had one cocktail. I would say it's more than that. I feel like I've had one cocktail. If would say it's more than that. I feel like I've had one cocktail. If I had three full sips of one gin. Yeah. That you were already like a quarter of a way to a cocktail in terms of what they pour for you. They pour two ounces into a cocktail.
Starting point is 01:31:15 You're taking way larger sips than I am, I guess. I mean, I'm not saying I'm completely hammered, but I'm not not completely hammered. I'm really happy for you. And I'm really happy for the justice system, because dealing with you tomorrow good note it's the only time i've ever been happy for our absolutely broken justice system um what's so funny about this is my wife is not going to believe me and she's going to make me resign and so i can show her that this is actually what happened recorded yeah that's a good point well this is an unfortunate situation the margalicious margarita i wish no ill will towards any of these fine women, but I didn't like the taste of that cocktail.
Starting point is 01:31:48 I didn't either. You finished it, though. Oh, did you pour it out? I poured myself a very small bit. Okay. Okay. We've got two more drinks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:57 One, I think, is an absolute laugh, and I can't wait to talk to you guys about it. Okay. It comes in a can as well. I've been holding on to this for some time when I acquired it. This drink is called, of course, Long Drink. Okay. It comes in a can as well. I've been holding onto this for some time when I acquired it. This drink is called, of course, Long Drink. Okay. Do you know what nation Long Drink resides from? No. Finland. Oh, great. Okay. And one of our great movie stars stumbled upon this drink at the South Street Seaport. He sure did. He had a taste and he said, yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:32:26 I would like to be involved in this business. That is not the origin story. That is the origin story. What a fucking King. And you know who this is? Miles Teller. What an absolute Lord. I haven't even tasted it.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Stumbled upon it. He was like, this is the best thing I ever tasted. And then he contacted the company and he said, can you please ship this to my home in California? And he had them do that for about a year until he decided that he wanted to become a partner. So do we have any more info on where on the South Street seaport? Unclear. Okay.
Starting point is 01:32:58 You want to know which port? Sure. Which is the Finnish port? It was at ESPN's offices. It was at docking station 37 and uh which is his usual hangout sure it's usually he aaron rogers and taylor swift they all meet up just finished get a finish station yep uh so i how how do you describe, what is this drink? I don't know. I read the entire FAQs on their website and I don't understand what it is. So the roots of long drinks go all the way back. Sean has his phone flashlight on this blue beer can to read the material on the side of the long drink.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Long drink is a top-selling category of alcohol in Finland. The roots of long drinks go all the way back to the 1952 summer games in Finland when the country of only 4 million people was still recovering from the Second World War. No laughing matter. Concerned with how to serve drinks quickly enough to all the visitors, the government
Starting point is 01:33:59 commissioned the creation of a revolutionary new liquor drink. And so the first long drinks were born this does not answer what the fuck is in this drink that's what i'm saying i read their whole website i think it's just like malt liquor nope i'm seeing it oh this is the traditional citrus flavor this is the only flavor i've seen in the market gin with natural grapefruit and juniper berry flavors and carbonation okay Okay, so gin and Fresca. I might love this.
Starting point is 01:34:26 Well put. Great. Let's go. In. Gin and Fresca. In. Fresca, really underrated mixer. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:34:35 It is, yeah. Do they still make Fresca? Yeah, I believe so. Miles Teller on a heater since he was about 12 years old. Really been doing a great job. What else do you guys know about Finland? Very little. Helsinki is there.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Nothing. Right. They have an okay hockey team. Just okay, though. Well, they've been good over the years. I read a quarter of a book about Scandinavia before we went to Sweden, and I can't recommend the book. And I did skip to the Sweden chapters pretty quickly, but the general impression I got was that the Finns were somewhat overlooked,
Starting point is 01:35:09 even within the Scandinavian community. The Norwegians have all the natural resources. I'm reminded when I Google that there is one very well-known Finnish filmmaker named Aki Korsmaki, who is a world-celebrated international filmmaker who hasn't made a movie in some time, and he made his first movie in like 15 years
Starting point is 01:35:28 that premiered at Cannes in May. And we weren't there. No. Well, I was too busy preparing for this. I just felt like I needed three or four months to get ready for this. Long drink is our second-to-last drink. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:40 I'd like to congratulate Miles on just rocking it out on a regular basis. Absolutely. He is cool. He's in the cool guy club. He definitely is. He definitely is. He was in...
Starting point is 01:35:51 He loves sports? Yeah, remember though, he was in... He inspired me to go mustache. Did he? He did. Is he rocking a stache right now or just from Maverick?
Starting point is 01:36:00 I think he still is rocking it. I don't know if he still is rocking it or not actually, but I went as him for Halloween. Oh. Last year. Oh, that's great. Yeah, I saw the top fence for it. I don't know if he still is rocking it or not, actually. But I went as him for Halloween. Oh. Last year. Oh, that's great. Yeah, I saw the top fence right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:08 Origin of the mustache. I've been on and off. You were baby Goose for Halloween? Yeah. What was Phoebe? She was Mav. Incredible. Yeah, it's great.
Starting point is 01:36:18 Bobby sent us a picture of this. I don't remember at all. I've had 14 drinks. So you don't remember things that happened seven months ago that's like for you guys to go as matching mad well i was like the only costume that we could find was goose not rooster i see but alas um and they had a sort of you know romantic energy to them i mean yeah there's a palpable kineticism the the final drink i'm gonna have some more long drink if you guys don't mind i think you are okay great best thing i've tasted today that is nice so the last drink is just an opportunity for me
Starting point is 01:36:52 to speak with a man about something that matters to me oh boy um i don't remember when a movie start debatable okay i will give you a hundred dollars to do what stone called steve austin does when he drinks his beer uh it is stone cold steve austin does when he drinks his beer uh it is stone cold steve austin's beer the name of this beer is steve austin's broken skull american lager this can features a large red ring of barbed wire around a blue background and a cracked skull that i believe is american in nature okay it. It's a lager. You love a lager. I do. You ready for this?
Starting point is 01:37:29 Absolutely. Grab a new cup. Getting a new cup. New cup for Bob. New cup for me. I need to save this other long drink cup so I can drink more of that later. You want my long drink?
Starting point is 01:37:37 Do you want to save every drop of it or you want me to pour it out? No, you can pour it out. Okay. Yeah. I forgot about your contamination fears. Okay. Bobby, here you go.
Starting point is 01:37:46 A lager is my preferred style of beer as well. Is it? Yeah. A Mexican lager, if available. Is this for you? No, I was going to give it to Bobby. Oh, okay. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:37:56 There you go, Bobby. A Mexican lager? So what is your preferred beer? Pacifica. Yeah, me too. All right. Hey, this has been an interesting experiment in acknowledging public service
Starting point is 01:38:07 via jury duty and exploring the Nepo baby phenomenon in a new way and better understanding our movie stars who are infinitely more wealthy but less artistically meaningful to us because they've spent their time on these projects. How much time do you think everyone spent
Starting point is 01:38:24 on these projects? Hours. Not you think everyone spent on these projects? Hours, not days, hours. I agree with you. I have, as I've said, I've just done a complete 180 on Ryan Reynolds.
Starting point is 01:38:34 What do you think of Stone Cold Steve Austin's? That tastes like beer. Did you, did you know about Stone Cold when you were in school? I don't think so you didn't even know who he was how would I know about him?
Starting point is 01:38:52 I didn't know you when someone someone strode into one of the part many parties you attended as a young person you didn't know me that's funny
Starting point is 01:38:59 do you think if you guys knew each other in high school you would have been friends? no I wasn't an abject loser, so I'm going to assume. No, I actually think we would have been. I do. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:14 You hadn't discovered your new masculinity yet, though. Yeah, that's true. Maybe. I was always kind of a sad boy. But also, weren't you like, you were an asshole as well in high school? So much has changed. Yeah. So, I don't know if I would have had the spine to put up with that.
Starting point is 01:39:29 Oh, interesting. You developed that later in life. Yeah. You know, just sort of like exposure therapy. I see. I know you love it. And I don't know what you're talking about. You're built for it.
Starting point is 01:39:40 Um, I, I think we would have been friends but not close friends did you like do stuff it's were you like in activities i certainly was what what were your activities uh i played three sports okay um i was the uh i was in student government all four years in high school yeah wow what were you i was the treasurer and the secretary. Yeah, treasurer, secretary, president, vice president. Actually, I was the vice president in my senior year. Why? Why did I do that?
Starting point is 01:40:13 Yeah. Just the natural born Leo, you know, just the leader out here. Searching for power. Just teaching the kids where to go and when to go there. What were your responsibilities or your achievements? Just making content decisions on a daily basis
Starting point is 01:40:27 you know reading copy making sure everything fit well I was the editor in chief of the newspaper oh you were
Starting point is 01:40:32 um I was the president of the Spanish Honor Society wow I was in the literature club uh
Starting point is 01:40:40 I was very involved so you like you did activities I was like pretty busy I had a lot going on. Okay. Congrats on the girlfriend. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:49 It was just amazing. I was like, is this really happening? What about you? Were you involved in a lot of things? I did two sports and then just a tremendous amount of schoolwork. We've talked about this before, though, haven't we? Did you win a superlative of any kind? Did you have superlatives in your high school um i don't remember if we did i guess we did but
Starting point is 01:41:09 no i don't know i think they sort of got like edged out you know from like we talked about it once on the show mind virus pushed out yeah i think so by the time i was there but they gave out like a lot of like academic awards and that sort of thing i won a lot of those obviously naturally yeah we talked about it once on the show because amanda told the story about how she always did her homework yeah and i did my homework and you were very active in school i was yeah yeah i only played one sport though basketball i had given up baseball by this time trying to remember any activities i also did my homework i thought i was going to become an engineer which would have put
Starting point is 01:41:43 me down a different path than the one that I ended up. There is a good engineering school in NYU. Is there not? Uh, well now there is because they acquired Metro tech. Oh, interesting. Did not have an engineering program before then.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Um, can you guess what superlative I was voted in my high school? Most attentive to detail. No. Can you guess? Have we never discussed this? No. This is very exciting.
Starting point is 01:42:04 Um, most organized. Good guess, but no. Okay. Can you guess? Have we never discussed this? No. This is very exciting. Most organized? Good guess, but no. Okay. I was voted friendliest. That's a true story. That's really funny. I had a lot of friends in high school.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Yeah. I have like four friends. You're still in touch with a lot of them. That's nice. I am had a lot of friends in high school. Yeah. I have like four friends now. You're still in touch with a lot of them. That's nice. I am. I love my friends. But I decided to stop making them at a certain point. Okay.
Starting point is 01:42:32 And just scale back on the whole situation. I did not know about Stone Cold Steve Austin at this time. Stone Cold was a professional wrestler in the World Wrestling Federation. And he, to me, was everything. He was a magical human um he rejected authority he uh flipped the middle finger at authority and drank a lot of beer and he opened up a can of whoop-ass on all of his opponents and he was just delightful says the man voted friendliest who was in charge of like 18 extracurricular clubs he was really an aspirational figure for me more so than an actualized vision of my future self
Starting point is 01:43:10 um i too am a rule follower but uh but i i admired what he was up to in the construct of the story that they were telling in professional wrestling at the time you know went on to become one of the three or four most significant wrestlers of all time and now he has his own beer has he been in any movies he has i can't name any okay that's always a good sign is we're surrounded by your years and years of physical media archives he took he took not one of them features this movie well let's let's i feel like he was in an expendables film okay let's take a look first of all do you know what he looks like? Oh, that looks familiar. Chrome Dome with the goatee.
Starting point is 01:43:47 Yep. The Texas Rattlesnake. That's his other nickname. You can't understand how little professional wrestling like permeated my life until I... Did you just not have
Starting point is 01:43:57 friends who were boys when you were a kid? I did have friends who were boys, but I just don't think that they watched professional wrestling. It's interesting because
Starting point is 01:44:04 you're from the South. Yeah. I mean, it was huge when we were kids. I don't think that they watched professional wrestling. It's interesting because you're from the South. Yeah. I mean, it was huge when we were kids. I don't know. I mean, I know who Hulk Hogan is. Yeah, but even that's like, it's not before us,
Starting point is 01:44:12 but we were kind of at the end of Hulk Hogan. I think also, as you know, that I just don't, if I'm not interested in something, like I just don't retain the information.
Starting point is 01:44:21 So it's like they could have been watching it and I just was like, whatever. Wow. I am shocked to learn that he was, in fact, in The Expendables. retain the information so it's like they could have been watching it and i just was like whatever wow i am shocked to learn that he was in fact in the expendables he also appeared in the longest yard remake with adam sandler that's true i recall that now and then apparently he appeared in several iterations of the wwe video games which are cited here on imdb do you play those no i don't play video games did you ever yeah? Yeah, when I was in high school.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Did you play the WWE video games? When I was in middle school, yeah. Okay. I like to execute the finishing moves. We've talked about this before. Well, mostly you just perform them on Kyle, your brother. Yes, and occasionally on Kara, unfortunately, my sister. I know, and Kara always gets left out of the narrative.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Hi, Kara. I love you. The Stone Cold Stunner, one of the best finishing moves, of course. I'm just having some more mirror ball. I think you should. It's here. This beer is fine. This is like crispier.
Starting point is 01:45:11 It's very Anheuser-Busch. Yeah. Not in a bad way, but it's just very, very simple. How long have we been recording? 131 minutes. Okay. With multiple stops.
Starting point is 01:45:22 Yeah. That's not too bad. So, under two hours. Do you think we did good work here? I think we gave some action-based feedback to the listeners about the liquors that we enjoyed and didn't enjoy. So this is sort of like the how to blow up a pipeline, but for liquors. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:40 What do you need? It's not exactly a manual, but it's a philosophical text. But you can draw inspiration and also take next steps, you know, as you see fit. When you wake up on August 1st, 2023, and you open Spotify and you look at your podcast feed and you see the movie star liquor taste test on your birthday, you say what? Well, one thing I did note about halfway through this is that like, this is my birthday episode, but we haven't talked about me at all. You know, I was just asking you about how we just like have it.
Starting point is 01:46:09 I use Stone Cold Steve Austin to ask you about your friendship. But I guess we haven't celebrated me as much. I think what I'm saying is that like you guys haven't spent enough time telling me what is saying nice things to me and like about me, you know? I mean, where to begin you know look of sheer terror washes over his face being lit by the flashlight from his phone which for some reason is still on on the table next to him that's some real dad stuff um bobby why don't you start you want me to start by saying nice things about amanda yeah i just you asked me i opened spotify on my birthday it's finally my birthday i hope i get to sell it i hope we're not jinxing it again unloved um not by the people in my life who love me but you don't
Starting point is 01:46:56 receive love very well at least from me that's true that's true and i think that's kind of part of our test yeah that is that's true and i that. And that's how I'm comfortable around you. I do receive celebration quite well, you know? So. I'll brainstorm on that. And it's just, I didn't really have a birthday last year because everyone had COVID in my family. So I'm hoping. And I also like birthdays, as you know.
Starting point is 01:47:22 Like, I believe in birthdays and occasions. Birthday cake. That's why we're doing this. No, I know. I appreciate like birthdays, as you know. Like, I believe in birthdays and occasions. Birthday cake. That's why we're doing this. No, I know. I appreciate it. It's very nice. You know, I have to say one of the great notes that I've taken from Amanda Dobbins is to just do shit and enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:47:33 That's right. You know, be out there in the world. Thank you. That's a really nice thing to say. Go to Paris. Thank you. Go to Italy. Will you remind me to email you?
Starting point is 01:47:40 Go to Milan. Yes, I will. Yeah, I haven't been to Milan. Yeah, sign up for threads. Get your TikTok account going. Make sure your Instagram is curated. Do you want to plug your yes i will yeah i'm not sign up for threads get your tiktok account going make sure your instagram you want to plug your threads yeah have you been threading i posted i said to bobby i'm doing this you told me about how you've been posting constantly that's not exactly with your burner account robert please um i did the same thing i did on tiktok which is i
Starting point is 01:48:01 posted one thing and i'll never post on it again. Okay. But I feel good about what I posted, which was the gif from Michael Clayton when Tom Wilkinson enters the courthouse and like knocks on the window while Michael is like staring dead-eyed ahead and like waves to him, which is, you know, that's how I feel about the relationship between threads and Twitter. Sure. That's beautiful. But I'll probably never open it again. Okay.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Social media. I don't know. I'm not really... I know that sounds stupid, but I'm actually really not on it nearly as much as I was even three months ago. What about one month ago? Probably less than one month ago than I was three months to one month because I feel like it doesn't work anymore. Good. I'm glad. Don't you think? That is a birthday gift that you can give to me
Starting point is 01:48:42 is to tweet less. I feel like I'm not tweeting very much. I'm tweeting much less too. You guys are tweeting about the Mets still. So, okay. No, I haven't. Last week was a perfect opportunity and I was like, I'm good. This is July.
Starting point is 01:48:53 We're recording this in July. Okay. This goes up on August 1st. Correct. How do you think that you will be feeling about the Mets on August 1st? Terrible, awful, not good at all. Well, at this exact moment, they've won four games in a row.
Starting point is 01:49:06 Okay. And every psycho fan like Bob and I are starting to convince ourselves if we just have two good weeks, then we're back. Okay. One of the problems with that, though, is that I saw a stat today
Starting point is 01:49:16 that was shared that was that if the Atlanta Braves, your Atlanta Braves. You know what? Every one of my life says that to me. Like, I didn't choose where I was born, okay? That's true. But I just want to point that out.
Starting point is 01:49:25 I mean, you should be proud. They're like the best franchise in sports. If they went 500 for the rest of the year, they would finish with 96 wins. Yeah, that's horrifying. That's a lot. The Mets are cooked. Cooked.
Starting point is 01:49:37 It's just a question of, can they get into the dance? And then everything that I hated about what the Phillies did last year, I will evacuate and I will cheer loudly for the New York Mets. I think they're done. I don't think they're very good. Okay. I think they're very mediocre. I feel like you guys are kind of protecting your hearts right now.
Starting point is 01:49:52 We kind of got our hearts stomped on in June to the point where it was like, they're 18 games back. It wasn't even fun. It wasn't even fun anymore. That is pretty bad. It was really bad. So you're very kind to ask that question. Or maybe you're actually hurting us.
Starting point is 01:50:05 I just am having an open dialogue. We've had 45 liquors. What else can we say about you? I could never imagine this show without you. That's very nice, Sean. Thank you. You are- There are a lot of people on Twitter who can and do every week, but- Not me. Not you. Not me. You are the straw that stirs the drink.
Starting point is 01:50:25 That's really beautiful. Thank you so much. That was nice to observe. It's a baseball moment. This actually is... This is what it's like when Sean is talking to, like,
Starting point is 01:50:34 bartenders at restaurants after two drinks. That is, like, the Sean, like, banter vibe. Right. And, like, you know, the winking and the...
Starting point is 01:50:41 Yeah. The line. It's good stuff. If I were not married and settled into the same career and working with the same people for nearing a decade, I would probably break out that part of my personality a little more often. Is that what you were like as a bartender?
Starting point is 01:50:56 Yeah. I know how to be charming. Or at least I know how to be like active and alive. That is true. And not like a self- you and you turn it on yeah frustrated person and then sometimes you turn it off and then we're all sitting here being like hello sean my friend am i am i quite difficult do you think bob what's been your experience been i think that we have enough in common
Starting point is 01:51:17 you just look straight up into the sky we have enough in common that we always have something to talk about. So I don't find you difficult to relate to at all. I don't find you difficult either. I know. That's the thing. This is actually the straw. It's a big straw.
Starting point is 01:51:34 Yeah. It goes around and around in a circle. I mean, you're absurd, but we love you. That's the most I've had 20 different types of alcohol comments that could be possible. I have a question. Yeah. Before we get out of here. So does everyone get a gift for their birthday
Starting point is 01:51:45 now? Do I get to choose something that we can do for my birthday? Yeah. When is your birthday Bobby? How do I not know that?
Starting point is 01:51:49 March 31st. Okay. Oh we've got some time to prepare. We've got some time. Did we do the swap because of your birthday? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:51:56 I think we just did it because I said that I hadn't seen Casablanca and Amanda. Yeah. So it's like a post Oscars. Correct.
Starting point is 01:52:05 That's a good zone. Correct. What do you, I mean, you don't have to say right now. I have to brainstorm. Okay. Is it a milestone birthday? No.
Starting point is 01:52:12 Okay. No. I'm going to be 28. Oh my God. Wow. 28 was cool, but bad. I liked 28 a lot. I met Zach when I was 27.
Starting point is 01:52:23 So 28 was like a year of possibility. You took your breath away. Well, I guess. Mostly we just like drink a lot at various bars in New York. It's like this every night. But it's great. And here you are. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:37 Low so many years later, drinking every night. This has been fun. Probably too long. I hope someone got some service journalism out of it but probably they just gotta hang um happy birthday to you thank you happy birthday amanda you're very sweet thank you for doing this with me you 26 yeah exactly 26 that's exciting um later this week on the pod uh garbage fish yes so? Yeah. So this is, we're going out with a bang. This is, Garbage Fish is our last episode for pretty much until
Starting point is 01:53:10 the end of August. Well, we'll have other episodes. You and I won't be on them. Yes, there will be episodes on this feed. Yeah, we have a special treat. Which we will talk about at the top of our Garbage Fish conversation. Correct. Bobby's been working hard on. Which Bobby and Amanda have been working very hard on and I have been sitting in my castle. It's actually a documentary
Starting point is 01:53:25 about Sean's life. Yep. You know what it's called? Voted Friendliest. Thanks so much for listening to The Big Picture. Bobby, thank you for organizing this entire affair.
Starting point is 01:53:34 We really appreciate it. And for staying in LA this long to do it with us. Yes, of course. I'm glad we could finally do it without anybody getting COVID-19. I mean, knock on wood.
Starting point is 01:53:43 Next time we'll see you will be on the high seas.

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