The Big Picture - The Presidential Movie Draft, With Griffin Newman and David Sims of 'Blank Check'

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

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And this is the Big Picture 8 Conversation Show about presidents. CR is here, of course, and joining the show for a very special presidential movie draft. The presidents of blank check. David Sims and Griffin Newman. Hi, boys. Hello. I think we are co-presidents. I think we're both presidents.

Yes, I was about to say. If one of you had to be Veep, though, who would it be? Yeah, who's Veep and who's president? Uh-oh. I think I'm the Veep. Yeah. But also in what universe, you know? What's the power dynamic of the president?

Oh, sure. Sure. And what governmental structure? Are you like the young, hungry veep trying to overtake me? No, I'm the veep but I'm the chainie. You're the power behind the scenes?

And I'm the dopey face? I let you come out and give the speeches because I do Nixon fingers for George W. Bush. Okay, this is good. So this is another thing to keep in mind.

We are recording in the past for the future. Yeah. I just looked at the calendar. I believe that this podcast is being released on election day. That is the plan. 2024.

Yeah. So we're not there yet. And just to go ahead and, you know, give a caveat, anything that may have happened to Dick Cheney in the last two months, Griffin has no idea. This is your planning to assess. You know, like who can say? Plausible deniability.

Let's create an alibi here that none of us know what will happen to Dick Cheney in the next two months and we have no designs. We recorded an episode recently that I think won't come out until December.

Yeah. I mean, I say recently. It was two or three months ago now in which we talk about imagining the episode being released in a reality in which Joe Biden has been reelected. It could happen.

You don't know. It's not off the table at this exact moment. Anything could happen. That's good. Twist and turns. Let's start this conversation where I think everyone wants us to start, which is I'd like each of you to tell me who you're voting for and why. Griffin, you go first.

Right. So just to be clear, we're recording this episode in the past. I am still RFK all the way. So we're drafting a little bit differently this year. We're drafting not movies, but movie presidents. That is to say, we're drafting characters. We're drafting figures from history. And in some cases, both.

This is going to be a very interesting draft. Sure. Because when I came up with this idea, I was like, well, there are clearly 500 eligible candidates. And there's like 16. There's not that many movie presidents. I am kind of shocked how few there are. Chris, how are you feeling about this subject? Well, I'm a big unitary and executive theory guy.

So this is really a home game for me. Chris Scalia run. I'm pretty annoyed. I think that you could have made some allowances for television if we could have brought in the presidents

from the series 24. This is my wife's first response last night. I said, who's your favorite movie president? And she said, Dennis Haysbert from 24.

I was like, that's a fucking TV show. Eileen, respectfully, the second best. That's not the right answer. David Palmer's brother also served as president and died of a brain hemorrhage

on the show. On the series? I didn't get that far into the series. Wait, he was elected after his brother? I don't know if he was elected or if he took over.

Was he kind of a Jeb Bush? What was the situation? He was elected. He was elected. He was elected. It's season six that he's been elected. I just want to say this. David Palmer is a terrible president.

Hold on. He's so bad. Let's be clear. You're judging his entire track record based on only a handful of days. It's just one day. You just pulled a Kamala. Let's be clear.

Let's be clear. Prices are up. And David Palmer was president for four whole years and you've only seen one day, let's be clear. Let's be clear. Prices are up. And David Palmer was president for four whole years, and you've only seen one day, but it's true. He's only president in season two. He's only president in season two? Season one, he's a candidate. Season two, he's the president.

Season three, he's not the president anymore, right? Isn't that how it goes? He gets assassinated at some point. One day is a rounding error. What's your problem man i was gonna say president allison taylor cherry jones's character yeah 24 i was always a big fan of her oh she was she was very good and and she broke the glass ceiling wait so he was only president for a day well i mean we only see him as president he's involved in scandal no they just don't show the other 1,200 days.

Did you ever watch 24? I watched part of the first season, but I did not keep up with the chronology. Every president in 24, their one move is, let me drag out Jack Bauer, international war criminal, basically, this guy, and just send him after whatever the problem is now. Like, they are not good people. I love 24. I'm just saying.

If I were running for president of the world at 24, my campaign would be, I do not have Jack Bauer's number. I promise you, I lack the ability to call him in. I don't think that's going to work in this political environment, Griffin. I think what the world wants is something different. Last time you guys drafted on the show, we drafted movie lawyers. That was an interesting experience. Well, did we draft lawyers? Well, lawyer movies.

And then we had one category where we were like, I want this person to represent me. Yes, that's right. That was a successful draft. Griffin, I believe you won that draft. Yeah, I went turbo mode. I spent like six months prepping and was very serious and did win. But I've taken

a very different approach to this draft. Okay, I take it back. He's also president in season three. So it's two days. Okay, so it's two days. That's good.

Wait, let's go back. Was your win, was it an electoral college win or a popular vote? It was both. It was both. It was both. You carry Pennsylvania.

It was on a sweep. Yep. That's good. Did you get Nebraska's second vote? It was both. It was both. It was both. You carry Pennsylvania. It was on a sweep. Yep. That's good. Did you get Nebraska's second district? Mm-hmm. How are you feeling about Pennsylvania? In September? Yeah.

Well, I mean, forever. I think Philadelphia is going to go super blue, and I'm very hopeful for Kamala Harris' prospects there. You are? Yeah. Are you going to do any local work? Door knocking? Yeah.

Oh, that's a good question. I did it for Obama back in 08. And then? And I lost my scarf and I was like, I had a scarf that I really liked

and I left it somewhere in Northeast Philly. It's hard to believe they skipped Gen X in terms of leadership. And then I'm going to come, maybe I'll come back in 2024 and that scarf,

the scarf of democracy will still be there. Wow, that's beautiful. Emotionally vivid scarf. Are you guys concerned about this draft? Are you excited about it? How are you feeling? I had the same reaction as you.

Initially, I think as you were trying to set up, we were going to do decades. And I was like, ah, let me make my little list. And it feels like they only really started making movies about presidents in the 90s. Before then, they didn't really do it that much. Why? I agree. Why?

That's not technically true. It's just that they didn't make that many. Well, they did make fictional ones. Which are, those fictional presidents

are awful. The 30s and the 40s, there are like 40,000 movies from like the 40s about Lincoln. That's what I was going to say.

Right. Like when Ulysses S. Grant, you know? Woodrow Wilson. When we had it broken into decades, it was starting with 50s and 60s. And I found such an abundance of 30s and 40s movies. And then 50s and 60s becomes a dead zone. That's right. 70s is up, 80s is down, 90s is way up.

90s is crazy. Like the peaks and valleys are bizarre of both real life depictions of historical presidents in film and fictional presidents. And like Chris said, then it became, it's the world of TV is littered with fictional. Like then it became like the du jour thing post West Wing, I think it's just to have, to have a nice stock character actor play your president. That's fun. You know, get your Tony Goldwyn. Get your, come on, name somebody. Teo Leone. There were so many movies

about Teddy Roosevelt in the 30s and 40s. Like, like 20. Well, you'll have a chance to trade all of them today. You should trade

all of your picks for 20 Teddy Roosevelt. There was a part of me, and perhaps I'm showing my hand a little early here, where I was like, could I get six Richard Nixons? Could I get Nixon in every category?

Oh, okay. Nixon is your strongest candidate for that. So just as like a point of just for like the rules here, presidents can be drafted multiple times. Yes. The film can only be drafted once. That is exactly correct. And that will make more sense when we explain the categories.

Do you think I should explain it now or should we keep going a little bit? Okay. So the six categories, as David said, we were originally going to do decades, which I thought was going to make this really easy. And in fact, it was really, really hard to strategize for 50s and 60s and even 70s and 80s. So we shifted back to some regular traditional big picture draft categories and some new ones. So the first ones, we have drama and comedy, and there is an abundance of dramas and comedies, either featuring or about presidents. The third category is biopic.

So this is, of course, a biographical film about a real person. Then the fourth is Oscar nominee. There's a lot of correlation between three and four. So we got to keep that in mind. The fifth is VP and cabinet. A very good recommendation. I think, was it Chris? Did you make that

recommendation? Very good idea. So we have the vice presidents are also available as are the secretaries of state, agriculture,

transportation. CR's got a Pete Buddha judge in his back pocket. And wild card, of course, which means anything is eligible. And as with our

Pitt and Clooney draft, a lot of stuff's going to get dumped in a wild card, I think. It makes it easier to navigate. I mean, I guess we were having some initial conversations

about the boundaries of the categories, which, full disclosure, we changed yesterday around 2 p.m. PST, so that will also factor into everyone's preparation. A little bit of Sean's October surprise. And that's okay. And so we decided that we should ask the questions

and have the debates on mic. Yes, yes. So. For the record, I did not do this to fuck with anybody. I just didn't have enough time to realize that this wasn't going to work. So I guess my first question would be, is action or thriller counting as drama? Yes, I think so. Okay.

I've been putting those in that bucket. I have as well. Okay. So that helps. Action and been putting those in that bucket. I have as well. Okay, so that helps. Action and Thriller fits into the drama bucket. So my number two question. So Wildcard is president only?

Good question. I'll tell you what, for the sake of good podcasting, we can open it up to VP and Cabinet as well if you'd like. Okay.

I think so. Well, there's another, so another question within that. What about candidate? I thought about making the category candidate originally when i was doing the decades i had 40s through 60s 70s 80s 90s 20 2000s 2010s and 2020s and wild card candidate as the final category but you didn't well i thought it would

just be easier because i was flummoxed by how few films there were but if you want to put a candidate for president right into that category i think it's a wild card i think that's or into wild card okay i have a sort of fun idea a question on top of that if the movie is mostly about a campaign but it ends with them winning can we call them presidents and or whatever oh that's a great question. There's a few movies like that, you know. If they are active

or former presidents, they are absolutely eligible in this. Right. So then here's my huge question. Do they have to be elected president of the United States? We settled on that

because we were talking about fearless leader draft for a while. Sure. She wanted to get Slobodan Milosevic in there. And we were like, Chris, this is not the time to relitigate that conflict. Griffin, I think that the president can be eligible if you, Griffin, without Googling, are also able to explain the governmental and or parliamentary structure of the country in question. Okay. Okay. What if it's not?

Here's my one follow-up to that. What's the movie you're thinking of? I don't want to spoil it. Okay. What if it isn't a country, but someone is elected president? Like on a planet? I'm going to be abstract about this. No, it can't be like president of the PTA.

Is this like Copenhagen on Mars? I think it has to resemble American society. Okay. So even if it is dramatically in the future, and even if it is interplanetary, it needs to be derived from our democratic republic okay does that make sense absolutely

now here's my final question for everybody because I didn't really make a decision on this and I'll use the movie as an example is young Mr. Lincoln eligible in a draft like this

I think if the person winds up ever being president they are eligible so they don't have to be president in the movie I don't think I have that on my list ask yourself this would they have made young Mr. Lincoln in the movie. I don't think. I have that on my list. Ask yourself this.

Would they have made young Mr. Lincoln if old Mr. Lincoln had never been president? Great question. No. If you start using that methodology for all movie drafts, things are going to get crazy. Like if you're like,

would this have happened if that had not happened? I actually, to their point, gave serious consideration to a film and tried to understand the political headwinds of the fictional world this film is built in to decide whether

this candidate would be the presumptive president like elect like whether they would have beaten their Republican opponent

was that you thinking about Lincoln and Bill and Ted's excellent adventure let's not just go burning titles here. Yeah, we are burning content. We're burning energy. So you guys want to start drafting?

You have no other riffs? No? Amanda, no riffs? Should we share the actual day that we're recording this on? September 10th. Which is, we are recording this like five hours before the debate. Are you going to watch the debate today? I don't think so. It conflicts with bedtime a little. we are recording this like five hours before the debate. Are you going to watch the debate today? Yeah. I don't think so.

It conflicts with bedtime a little. And also, I just don't need to hear it. I didn't think I was going to, but then I remembered how much fun we had the first Biden-Trump night when you started texting. When he was like, shut up. That was an incredible moment. When Joe Biden literally told Donald Trump, shut up on a debate stage.

You mean last go round? The 2020 debate? Yes. That was an incredible moment when Joe Biden literally told Donald Trump, shut up on a debate stage. You mean last go-round? The 2020 debate? Yes. I remember for this joke, I was like, I'm not watching it. The Biden debate. I went out and I had a great dinner. I truly forgot it was happening.

I saw Little Shop of Horrors off Broadway. Turned on my phone, got a deluge of horrendous text. I started walking home and I saw it through the TV screen. It was like a ghost like jumping out at me. It was horrifying to even see it through a window. Like,

I just, it's, you know, still never seen it. The last one was consequential. It was. That debate,

that's true. I'm just, I'm just putting this as like a data point for the future, you know, like our version of the time capsule.

I thought it would be really funny if during this debate we realized also Kamala should be taken off the ticket and she was replaced like that's in play you never know uh i think the good news is i've spoken to the campaigns and they have agreed to include the audio at the end of this draft from the debate so if you missed it you can relist that would actually do numbers of course yeah that's what jmo is all about chris uh okay bob let's let's let's figure out this draft order got the top gun hat here Of course. That's what JMO is all about, Chris. Okay, Bob.

Let's figure out this draft order. Got the Top Gun hat here. Is this the first time you guys are seeing it? I usually don't bring it out for five people drafts. Technically, Pete Mitchell reported to a president. That's true. Technically. He didn't always follow those rules, though. At the cabinet level, though?

TBD. Did we ever figure out what administration that was operating during the Top Gun program? I mean, that's a Reagan situation where I think we're all pretty clear. Selecting first overall will be Sean Fennessey. Oh, Jesus. Oh, yeah. You can see the Scrabble tile right here. Jiminy Cricket.

I don't know what to do with it. I'll just throw it. I'm allowed to say Fennessey. Oh, I like it, Bob. I don't know where to put it, you know? You just threw it. First time in the studio. Yeah, I love it.

It's like confetti. N is for Griffin Newman. Hey. Because I forgot to bring G's. Okay. So N is going to be for Griffin. I'll take it. Okay.

Amanda Dobbins will be third. All right. So it's going to be an interesting field. Yeah. For old Davy Sims. Me and Chris. And then Chris will be fourth, which means, David, you are on. Okay. I'm on the turn.

The turn is a nice place for... I would much rather be David than myself. I think there's just some pressure on the turn. You really want to hit a triple. First is not good here. First is tough. This is two in a row now that I am not really doing

I want to be in first. Okay. Very well. Well, thanks so much, Bobby. This is two in a row now that I am not really do not want to be in first okay very well well thanks so much Bobby this is two in a row in the recording timeline correct but not in the yes

of the 14 drafts we've recorded what happened in the October draft we went to the year 1996 damn that was fairly

that was civil right it was civil it got a little weird in 96 well we were like oh my god 96 is actually a great year for film

yeah 96 rocks yeah 96 was awesome I have no idea why we made it so long Jerry Maguire yes it was that would be my

yeah Sean so you've had first pick three in a row three times the last podcast that we record the last draft that we recorded

that aired in September was a low emotional moment for Sean and thus for everyone. Wait, which one was that? Brad and George. Oh, that was you just did that. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. That didn't air yet. Yes, but when this is airing.

I see. Yes. Okay. It will have aired. Yeah. Wait, does Sean melt down or what happens? More of a shutdown? Yeah.

I don't know if you guys remember. A government shutdown? Do you guys remember the Avengers Infinity War incident? Of course I do. Very, very fondly. It was. It was. It was Endgame, not Infinity War.

It was Endgame. It was Endgame. Oh, it was? Oh, it was? It was Endgame. I think you cried a little about Infinity War too. I've never cried on this podcast, so that didn't happen. Anyway, it was a similar kind of

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at participating McDonald's restaurants in Canada. Prices exclude delivery. Okay, we've got our order. Just to reiterate, I'm going to do the categories one more time for everybody.

This is an opportunity for me to vamp before I have to make the first overall pick. The categories are drama, which also includes action movies and thrillers and the

like. We've got comedy. We've got biopic. We've got Oscar nominee. We've got VP and cabinet. And we've also got wild card, which will

include candidates from films. And if I can just offer some salient thought, the real comedy is whatever's happening at Congress any given day. Thank you. This is the kind of righteous insight that you can find on the blank check. I'm just trying to get on JMO. This is my audition. We're always accepting new guests, David. Okay.

I have had a lot of luck fucking up all of my drafts. But there's nothing anybody can do to upset you in this, right? I'm not going to have as emotional a relationship to it as I've had the previous couple, but I expect to still blow this somehow.

I think this is previous couple, but I expect to still blow this somehow. Okay. I think this is the most chalk, but good pick I can make. Okay. It's not as fun as where some of you guys will go because I do it, but very simply an Oscar nominee. I will take Daniel Day-Lewis in Lincoln. I think that that.

Where he portrays Abraham Lincoln. You can go to the board and you can say, with the information that I had, this was the best choice that I could make. He was not only the nominee that year, he was the winner. This was his second Academy Award. His third.

His third Academy Award. Jesus. He's righteous in this movie. Chris has been known to impersonate him. I don't know. No, no, no. So good. Dana don't know. No, no, no! So good. Oh, Dana Man's power.

I will also say, strategically, it is wise to take Lincoln early because there are a lot of cabinet members in there. And so that is a situation

where you could see yourself just like scanning IMDB being like, okay, so who was the secretary of defense? Strathairn was lurking there. It's true. Who took over for Lincoln?

What do you guys shot? Andrew Johnson. Absolute dingus. Yeah, he was really a cool president too. Definitely did a good job. You want to learn more about Johnson? Andrew Johnson? No, not really.

You don't want to? No. You haven't listened to my solo JMO episode about Johnson. Where are you on your dad president history journey? Are you still mostly World War II focused? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So FDR? Very focused on the North Africa campaign. David, what about you? You're in deep dad territory. Huge. Are you becoming an increasing history buff? I'm a huge history buff. I'm a big president's dork. I can do them all in order. It's really sick.

Okay, go ahead. You're kind of a slut for U.S. presidents. I kind of am. Mr. Boyd? The whole misbegotten enterprise of America is interesting to me. I'm always reading books about it. And it started in the pandemic, so it started actually pre-fatherhood for me. But maybe it was just bored started in the pandemic so it started actually pre uh fatherhood for me but um maybe it's just boredom in the pandemic you know i read all the whole robert carroll lyndon johnson

uh volumes all those i read you know the slicinger fdr books now i'm just deep now if anyone wants to recommend a president book to me i'm ready one could almost argue that you started reading those books and then realized i need to have a child soon so I can own this dad-ass behavior. David, have you read the one that is about some president basically got assassinated or was killed by sepsis? You know what I'm talking about? James A. Garfield, yep. Okay, sure.

And do you know this book? I do know the book. Oh, this is the one that Benioff and Weiss are doing, right? Yes, my friend Mike Mikowski is making a show for Netflix about it. Oh, from Bad Education, the writer of Bad Education. That Benioff and Weiss are producing. I'm very excited for it. It was recommended to me both by...

Matthew McFadden. Juliette Lippman and my father-in-law. So that's the real... Where are you at on sepsis these days? I'm glad they learned about it. Sorry to James Garfield, you know? Recently at a large gathering of the Atlantic's employees, I work at the Atlantic.

Humble brag. Editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg just was like jokingly like, you know, we've been like doing this and like, you know, who knows who the president was in 1882 when we were writing that. And I just said, Chester A. Arthur. And he stopped and he was like, we're doing this, and like, you know, who knows who the president was in 1882 when we were writing that? And I just said, Chester A. Arthur. And he stopped, and he was like, really? And I was like, yeah. And he was like, how do you know that?

That's kind of alarming that that happens. I'm a bit concerned to be drafting against you on this episode, to be honest. Why is this? Because Garfield was shot in 81, so I was like, it's Chester A. Arthur. Okay, I believe Griffin has the second pick. Is that correct?

Yes. Lincoln Rules, by the way. It's like the best movie about a president ever. It's such an awesome movie. A. Arthur. Okay, I believe Griffin has the second pick. Is that correct? Yes. Lincoln Rules, by the way. It's like the best movie about a president ever. It's such an awesome movie. Yeah, about a real president at least. I'm trying to game this out properly. I'm going to... It's also fun.

People think that movie's boring, but it's fun. No, that movie's fun. Yeah, I totally agree. It's a great... It's a chamber drama. People moving in and out of rooms yelling at each other. Who is Tommy Lee Jones in that movie? He's Thaddeus Stevens, the radical Republican. Yeah, he's the guy who pushes

the amendment through Congress. Sort of the Matt Gates of that era. No, he was like the AOC of that era. He's like Chuck Schumer. Yeah. I am going to, in the category of drama, draft the movie Fail Safe. Yeah. I am going to, in the category of drama, draft the movie Failsafe.

Oh, I love that move. Okay. It feels like a little bit of a, I felt like there might be a feeding frenzy for that later on. So I want to use an early slot to get that.

And that's your guy, Sidney L. My big man, Lou Matt. You dragged us on Maine in an episode some months ago, Sean, for the fact that neither of us

had seen Fail Safe before. You dragged yourselves when you revealed that you hadn't seen it. This is true. Yeah, I watched it for this. We both corrected, filled the blind spot for this.

That thing is a fucking heater. It's unbelievable. Incredible movie. Yeah. It's so good. We just did a Sydney episode. Yeah. Well, we talked about it

because we did Dr. Strangelove together. Yes, right. That was a movie that Dr. Strangelove together. Yes. Right. That was a movie that preceded Strangelove. It has this incredible foresight about what would happen in a circumstance like that. And the president is played by who, Griffin? Henry Fonda, who is incredible in this. I want to say it might just be the best presidential performance I have seen in terms of 98% of his screen time in this movie is confined to one room where Larry

Hagman's the only other actor that he gets to interact with face to face. Hagman very understated. He's so good in it. He doesn't have a big 10 gallon hat on or anything. No, it's very confusing. No one shoots him. There's no confusion over who shot him. But he's mostly stuck in this sort of like bunker war room in a high intensity situation. Most of his performance plays out basically in close to real time. And yet within this, you get a pretty complete arc of everything that is sort of usually embodied in a president. You start out with him going down this elevator and he's got this sort of swagger he's in a bit of a crisis but he's trying to sort of confidence his way through it and toss off jokes and then you see him really kind of lock into playing the role and watch the whole cycle of him thinking he has or is losing control of the situation um he makes i would say

a pretty dramatic decision sure decision late in the film that I will not spoil for listeners that I almost was like, does it feel wrong to draft him when he did something that I would personally be slightly terrified by? But I also think there is a sense of morality to his weird logic of it's basically this very strategic self-immolation of him being like, the buck stops here. There's maybe a problem with our entire political system globally that I need to take account for. And he plays incredibly well. So Griffin, just to be clear now, the decision is yours.

You own it. And we all understand that you would make the same decision in office. Absolutely. Congratulations. But I like that he's a radical creative thinker. He's making the choices no one else would. I don't think Griffin could get elected president. There's nine years of blank check audio out there.

Can I ask a point of order? I wish I had a gavel right now. Yes. So this same movie cannot be picked twice, but the same actor can be. Not only that, but this actor is eligible for a movie from the same actor can be. Not only that, but this actor is eligible for a movie

from the same year as Fail Safe. Henry Vonda. In which he pursued office. That's how... Henry Vonda, he had that presidential energy. Sometimes you provide a list where you're like, here are all the movies from this year. Here's all of our favorite...

Are you saying you appreciate that? I certainly appreciate that. But this will be a test of our research abilities. Yeah. And thinking big. I made a list, but then I felt like I was having a hard time remembering. I couldn't do something that I felt was definitive.

Yeah. Because there's so many movies where the president shows up for five minutes and those presidents are eligible in this draft. You know what I mean? Like side characters, some of the funniest or most compelling presidential characters

are not the leads of the movies that will be drafted today. So we shall see. Remind me who has the third pick. Do you have Amanda? It's me. Okay. Amanda, you're up.

Yes. This was also going to be my first pick. So I feel very confident about it. It's a, some might not agree with the category, but it's the strategy that I've devised. So in Oscar nominee I need

this is a great great pick by you I'm gonna take Kevin Kline as Dave oh I did not expect this yeah

it's a big one great pick this was a 50-50 for me on what I used my first pick for and you got the better of me here Amanda nominated for screenplay

nominated for screenplay this is one of my favorite movies as a child. Had it on VHS and also he's maybe the best president or one of them in the... So here's my question to you. Yeah. Are you taking

Dave or are you taking Bill Mitchell? Because Dave is not the president. I'm taking acting president. He is. De facto. He's never sworn in. Dave was not elected. I'm taking him fixing the's never sworn in Dave was not elected I'm taking him fixing the fucking budget and saving the shelter you could pick Rodan

I pre-programmed this dispute because I knew you were going to take this movie but I knew also that I was like he is acting as president there was no we didn't set any parameters on the legality of the presidency he is definitely acting as president, and he saves that shelter.

There was no way I was going to make a case for Charles Grodin as an acting cabinet member, but you could also do that. Secretary of Commerce. Sure. I thought you might. Kingsley's good in that. I was going to say, I had half a mind to draft in VP category Nance. Nance is gone now.

Yeah. Nance holding the African mask, that's incredible stuff. That's a great movie. Langella just yelling at everyone all the time. Really good stuff. Is he chief of staff?

Yes. Okay. Yes. And he's propping up the, you know, coma president. Should I ask about the shower scene

or should we move on? I think we need to talk about it. Let's talk about it. This is my favorite president movie as well. Yes. And we've discussed this a lot and people are confused when we bring it up on mic. David, do you want to lead this discourse? There's this scene where he's in the shower.

Yeah. Sigourney Weaver, his wife, comes in. He keeps himself so clean. Yeah, I know. Sorry, my voice isn't doing it right now she's mad at him cause he's

you know Bill Mitchell was such a jerk and then she sees his dick and she's like oh interesting but should she be able to recognize his dick

we talked about this on Rewatchables too she registers surprise but she's talking her eyes dart down Sigourney queen of underplaying

barely makes a moment out of it and then he has a moment where he looks down and then looks back up at her and you see him doing the math of is my penis

different than her husband's and did she recognize something. Right. The question of the scene the ambiguity of the scene which

is so rich and it's such a great you know literary moment is right. Does he have an identical dick just like the identical face.

Right. Or has she forgotten this man's penis. Oh right. Because he have an identical dick just like the identical face? Right. Or has she forgotten this man's penis because she hates him so much? She's got hog blindness at that point. I think that's what it is. But also on her face,

she's like, that's not how I remember it. But maybe I'm not remembering. I haven't seen this in so long. I have so much hatred for him that I can't remember what's good about this penis. Is she remembering, is she realizing he's an imposter or just seeing a new side of him through the dick? So watching Dave. It's just a great scene.

For the 20th time, I picked up on something later in the movie, which is when he asked her, when did you figure out? When she catches him, right? And says, hi, nice to meet you. Who are you? He said, when did you figure out? When she catches him, right? And says, hi, nice to meet you. Who are you? He said, when did you figure out the shower? And she says, no, when you looked at my leg in the car. Sure. Which happens chronologically much earlier than that.

So he thinks like the penis was the giveaway. And then she's like, no, no, no, no. There you go. I'm glad we discussed this. So maybe it's just a look of appreciation. Maybe. So it's an important look of appreciation maybe so it's a quite important question

for the room if you had to be the doppelganger for any role in our society what would it be you're the guy

they call they're like you look just like this guy or gal oh so who do I look most like Nevada Gaming Commissioner

who would you want that's a great example, David. Yes. That seems fun. So if they were like, I think I would want to be like Kyle Shanahan. Right.

Head coach of the San Francisco 49ers. I would want to be a guy who got to call plays on Sunday. You want to be an OC for a D2 college football team. It doesn't have to be.

I think I could handle Power 5. Okay. I think I could handle power five. I'm so stressed out because I know there are a million things that I've said I would be perfect at. The opportunity is too great right now. Okay, let me think. What about you? Host of the Big Picture

is probably the one. I hope one day. Do you think that our listeners ever wonder if you have been replaced by a... I think they think it frequently, yeah. My alien quality is emanating through the airwaves. Guys, any thoughts, jobs you'd like to have? You pose that question, my mind immediately goes to Paul Rudd.

If we're saying by transitive property, I get to then look like Paul Rudd. You're just, oh, no, no, no. No, you're saying the job. I still kind of want his career, though. Yeah. Can I be Ant-Man? Ant-Man is a good job. Can I be a better

bug superhero? Ant-Man does seem good to be at this point. It's like, if he shows up in an Avengers movie, people will be really happy. That's how dire things have gotten.

People will be like, oh, it's you! Yeah. People disliked his movie. He's still maybe number three on the power position list. You are really just...

I've not seen this level of pause. I do actually think that hair twirling has begun. I mean, there are obviously a million morons in charge of things where I'm just like, let me make the decisions for you. It's not that hard. And you're making the wrong ones.

But then there's also part of me that was like, oh, but I just like be really good at like, like being really rich. So that's another thing where I'm like, do I want to like save the world or do I just like want to be Ina Garten? You know, I would be really good at that.

Oh yeah. She's a person. She doesn't have a role. She does have a job. She has two houses in East Hampton, one where she lives and then one where she cooks. You just want her life. You want possessions a job. She has two houses in East Hampton, one where she lives and then one where she cooks. You just want her life.

You want possessions. Yeah. I'm saying like, I think I could actually call a place. She throws dinner parties and it's like a good hang. Yeah, absolutely. I want to know a lot of secrets

but not have to do much about it. You know what I mean? Like CIA historian. Yeah, exactly. Where I get like all the access yeah in-house blogger for the central intelligence agency be like you guys will never believe what I found in the archive today but don't don't share this on Twitter yeah can I be like cigarette smoking man from the x-files like that's a real job right someone is that's a real

job uh okay we can we can move on who has the fourth pick on. Who has the fourth pick? I do. Chris has the fourth pick. I'm going to go with Oscar nominee and I'm going to take President Merkin Muffley from Dr. Strangelove. Great pick. Okay, good one. Dimitri.

Dimitri. Now this puts a real dent in the comedy category. It does. Which is where I thought But I took it at Oscar. You did. Yeah, I think that there's some

I think I'm going to get my I think I hopefully will get my comedy on the comeback does. Which is where I thought but I took it at Oscar. You did. Yeah. I think that there's some I think I'm going to get my I think I hopefully will get my comedy on the comeback here. Okay. But obviously you know this is an ensemble piece

but Sellers was nominated for Best Actor. I can't remember was he nominated for Best Actor for this specific role in the film? Well

he was just nominated for his performance. Okay. Well he deserved it. He should have won probably. I don't know what won in 1965, but what an incredible performance and very funny

to just watch him be this really ineffectual, bookish chief executive. He lost to Rex Harrison for My Fair Lady. Oh, wow. Really cool stuff. By the way,

speaking of, I was thinking about why Kevin Kline wasn't nominated for Best Actor that year, and I'm happy to read you the nominees from that year. They include Tom Hanks

who won for Philadelphia, Daniel Day-Lewis in The Name of the Father, Lawrence Fishburne in What's Love Got to Do With It, Anthony Hopkins in The Remains of the Day, and Liam Neeson

in Schindler's List. I would suggest that's one of the best best actor categories ever. Yeah, that's pretty good. Better than Rex Harrison's class? Not a big My Fair Lady guy. He's not a big Audrey Hepburn guy.

Are you a big Dr. Strangelove guy? Absolutely. I appeared on a three-hour podcast with these two gentlemen talking about the film. So that's my pick for Oscars. Wow. All right, I got two picks. Two picks.

I'm just taking my two big boys. This is easy. I want in drama President James Marshall Harrison Ford in Air Force One yeah and I want in biopic

President Richard Milhouse Nixon played by Anthony Hopkins in Oliver Stone's masterpiece Nixon that is what I want biopic

does get kind of thin kind of fast in a weird way it does it felt a little top heavy so I was kind of I want biopic does get kind of thin kind of fast in a weird way it does it felt a little top heavy so I was kind of eyeing biopic with a little bit of fear I don't know if that's silly of me

Air Force One we have a scarcity of good movies or movies we've seen but Air Force One is good can you do it? can you do the get off my plane that was pretty good.

Thank you. That was good. It's a movie. My wife has not seen a lot of movies. And so, especially in COVID, when we just sat around watching movies all the time, I get to see... I got to watch her watch A Few Good Men

and experience You Can't Handle the Truth, which are words she knows. Sure. You know, get uttered, like, to her great surprise. And, like, blast her across the room.

Holy shit, that's what it is. Okay. And, in Air Force One, I think I did pump her up. I was like, he has a really good kiss-off line.

He kind of, they kind of nailed the kiss-off line. And she was like, oh, okay. And then when he did it, like, it's just the greatest thing

that's ever happened. I do think James Marshall might be a bad president. I will say this. He seems kind of like a saber rattler. Well, that opening sequence of the film where he gives that speech and they were like, Mr. President, what the fuck were you thinking? You've just destabilized an entire region?

That's some tricky presidenting, I would say. Yeah, he's possibly a little aggro. Right, it comes home to roost immediately in that air force one is hijacked by russian separatists they don't like him but uh you know what he uh takes control and uh he saves the day and he's harrison ford and i just think there were so few movies where the actual selling point of the movie was we have this actor playing the president and all of america was like one ticket please saluted at the posters like when can i see that as many times as possible wasn't this movie also designed for clint

in theory that makes sense yeah which like it just doesn't have the same power as much as like i guess clint never played the president but did so many president adjacent movies him on the poster wouldn't have felt as exciting as like holy shit han solo is president of the united states now we may need to circle back to clint eastwood in the white house later oh sure draft sure oh yeah um so air force one easy pick for me nixon is my that's my favorite uh oliver stone film um which i know it's a bit of a controversial pick and it's a a performance i adore i feel it's not a well-regarded movie in the same way as his his big oscar winners it's this insane bloated epic i think it was three hours before the director's cut right it's like three and a half with the director's cut which includes bob hoskins as a

jagger hoover and a great insane scene um but i and it's a performance it's one of my favorite kinds of performances where hopkins is like i'm just gonna kind of do a thing and it's not really gonna be an imitation sort of like i'll wear makeup and i'm also gonna be hopkins at the same time and i'm just gonna be play him as like a reptile. And it's just the best. It's the, I just love Nixon. I don't know. Have you, what do you guys think of Oliver Stone's Nixon? I was just rewatching the Sam Waterston scene the other day

where like he comes in and Sam Waterston's got his like racket bag and is like, I will not be conducting. He's the CIA head. He's like, I'm not going to like spy on American citizens. It's a good, God damn it. It's, Joan Allen really stays with me yeah from this movie and it's sort of like I can't watch

any other Joan Allen movie without thinking of her as poor Joan Allen I feel like she got like typecast as the pained wife because she was so good at it in the 90s and she couldn't escape it I only think of her as Pamela Landy no I know.

But even there, she's like bringing a little, you know. Yeah. Jesus Christ. If we ever did this film on the rewatchables. Jesus Christ, that's Richard Dixon.

I think it would break the Dion Waiters scale. Oh, yeah. Because it is the murderer's row of murderer's row. Woods as Haldeman? Get out of here.

Woods, JT Walsh, Paul Sorvino powers booth eg marshall david paymer david hyde pierce kevin dunn saul rubenek five-ish finkel oh yeah tony goldwyn just an incredible array of men who are very good at loudly announcing things and that's before you have like ed harris's howard hunt or the aforementioned hoskins dan hidea is in this movie despite being an iconic nixon that might come back up i don't know edward herman is nelson rockefeller just a crazy movie uh well david those are good picks thank you and you've also kneecapped the cabinets from i have movies air force one was dual tactics

because i wanted to take gl Glenn Close off the table. She's amazing in that movie as the vice president, and I needed to get her out of there. And just to be clear, we said chief of staff. Is that a cabinet position, or is that just...

I don't think so. No, it's not. Chief of staff is a cabinet position, even though it's a political appointee. It counts. Well, all cabinet members are political appointees, right? Well, but he does not require

Senate confirmation, I guess that's what I mean. Okay. All right. I was going to say, because none of them are elected. According to who? Wikipedia.

Okay. They're never wrong. I just wanted to know. Okay. All right, Christopher. All right. you got a pick I will be selecting Dwayne Elizondo

Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho from Idiocracy damn it Terry Crews this isn't comedy yeah we thought it was

you know I mean and also shout out to Dax Shepard was it Vice President Frito yeah

he's good this movie uh less satirical by the year um but uh this is a just a phenomenal performance from Terry Crews and uh I needed a comedy here so I feel like it's

idiocracy early Terry Crews right like that's kind of when he was starting out it's post linebacker Terry Tate commercial. Yeah. But pre-contemporary. Pre-Brooklyn 99.

Yeah. Everybody hates Chris and... Yeah, yeah, all that. Now, much like early presidents sending the president in terms of term length and such, this opens up a question I want to get to eventually.

Does Chris also get president I don't Know in this draft pick, or is he specifically choosing to just pull President Camacho? If you have a movie that has multiple presidents within it, do you get them all? I'm picking President Camacho.

That's my president. You don't want to say anything about your guy? About who? Luke Wilson. Oh, Luke Wilson. Could have been Harrison Ford. It could have been Harrison Ford. It could have been. I mean, this is a classic Harrison Ford role. Sure. In the world he would feel comfortable in.

The world of Mike Judge. You know what? You laugh. But at this point with Harrison Ford, who can say? Well, he's about to be. Red Skull. The president and Red Hulk. Yeah.

Not Red Skull. We can't draft things that haven't come out yet though, right? No, we cannot. Yeah. Not Red Skull. We can't draft things that haven't come out yet though, right? No, we cannot. Yeah. And I, you know, Red Skull, his run at the presidency was a big one, but he didn't quite get there.

Hugo Weaving. No, he didn't. Yeah, he just, the undecided split against him. How are Red Hulk and Green Hulk related? They share, it's like a Dave Bill Mitchell situation. But you can tell

if you look at their cocks. All right. Well, that's good. I'm glad we got there already. I started it. Amanda, you have the next thing. The Scarlet Witch sees them in the shower

and is like, oh, Red Hulk's packing. The Scarlet Witch and Red Hulk banging? No banging in your fanfic? Yeah. I've not seen my Tumblr. Red on red.

This is, that's good. Okay, I'm just going to go with my heart here instead of my head. And take the other president that I would be absolutely, just not even mad, just sad if I couldn't have. Since I can't draft the West Wing, I will still be drafting Aaron Sorkin. And in comedy, I will take Michael Douglas as Andrew Shepard,

the American president. You call this comedy? I mean, it's a comedy. I call this comedy. That's funny. I thought when you were gearing up for that, you were going to say you were going to take Mitt Romney in the fantasy of Aaron Sorkin's bullshit democracy. This is the best that i got and it all and then we had a couple seasons of the west wing and then it all really went downhill is it is it crazy that president cabacho seems more realistic than president shepherd at this point he's like going door to door and we're

gonna get the guns like that is literally a pipe dream that will never happen. So funny. I've loved two women in my life. Oh my God. It's so good. And she gets in trouble because she's like burns a flag

at an ACLU. It's really, they're saving the environment at the Christmas party. It's the rare nice guy, Douglas. He so rarely plays like a smooth, nice guy. He's always playing

a weird snake. I saw this movie. This came out in 1995. And so I was 10 or 11 and I saw it in theaters four times with my dad. We loved it. But I think this was one of the first Michael Douglas movies that I saw. And so then I caught up and I was like, goodness gracious. Excuse me, Michael Douglas, Mr. President.

Anyway, wonderful movie that does not pertain to real life in any way but it's still great he just has to give one really good speech and then everyone's chill with everything yeah but it's it's it's a it's a really good speech yeah and he's a good dancer yep oh yeah andrew shepherd the titular american president is off the board griffin you're up okay um a lot of my strategy has uh gone to pieces hey man in in the last uh rotation of things so i'm gonna take one of my risky swings here and if it is shot down by the panel i will pivot this is my my line of questioning earlier am i allowed to draft in the category of oscar nominee alexander payne's election i think no no because i thought about it as well but okay alas what is not a presidential election she's voted president of the school

this is what i was asking about president of non-countries. Sure. Oh, I thought you were like talking about like well, this is I was trying to throw you off my scent. I believe

there is a sequel to Election the Novel, right? Yes. Isn't it about Tracy Flick running for office? Correct. And they're saying they're going to make that

as a film now. Tracy Flick can't win is what it's called. Right. I have a pivot. I'm going to pivot. I'm going to in that as a film now. Tracy Flick Can't Win is what it's called. Right. I have a pivot. I'm going to pivot. I'm going to, in the same category, in Oscar nominee draft, being there, Jack Warden.

That's a great one. Yeah, good one. President Bobby. Yes. You took it in Oscar nom? Yes. Yes, that's where I'm placing it because I feel like that category is thinning out.

It is. Surprisingly fast. Yeah. No, it's tough. But just one of my favorite character actors, one of my favorite that guys, getting a huge bump from just being an actor I love sitting behind that desk in one of my favorite movies.

But I also like that he is a man of the people. He listens to his citizens. He invests a lot of faith and power in a perhaps idiotic gardener. And adjust all of his policies by that. But he is kind of, he is seen as a somewhat unifying force in the film, right?

I think he's a fairly successful president. I also just love Jack Warden. That's my thing. I'm mostly just drafting Jack Warden's face. Well, it's a very good pick. That was the next pick at the top of my comedy category. Oh, boy.

Okay. And now it's your turn for two, right? It's my turn for two. Now, there's some legendary figures still on the board here. Yeah. So I've still got some good options. I'm going to come away with some good movies. So far, you have Oscar nominee.

That's it. That's it. I had the first of world pick. Now, obviously, biopic is looking a little bit thinner. This film is not a biography, but I'm going to take it anyway I'm going to take President Thomas J. Whitmore on Independence Day

as portrayed by Bill Pullman that's what I was in what category? that was going to be my next pick so that's good okay yeah I thought for a second you were picking it in biopic

and I was like I think you misunderstood Independence Day it's real man it's real to me did I? when you get that job as the CIA's internal blogger

you'll be able to reveal for us whether or not it is. But that just would indicate that Independence Day is a biopic of Thomas J. Whitmore where, in fact, it's about an alien invasion. No, it's about a man

who was a pilot who had some trauma who needed to be put back in the position to win for his country. Randy Quaid? Well, yes. And also the president.

No, I mean, someone just mentioned you have to give a great speech. Obviously, there's an incredible speech in this movie. A summer blockbuster from the 90s. I mean, this was my next pick. Amazing movie. And now I don't really know what to do.

Is he a good president? He nukes Houston. I'll just say it. He's very impressionable. Yes, one guy is like, should we just nuke him? He's like, all right. Nimziki really gets in his head. I'll just say it. He's very impressionable. Yes. One guy is like, should we just nuke him? He's like, all right. Nimziki really gets in his head.

Is that Rebhorn? Yeah. Yeah, Rebhorn is definitely working him like a speed bag. Yeah. But you know what? We came out on top. And then Jeff Goldblum's like,

what if we give it a cold? And it's like, that's it? You just went with this guy? Rebhorn has... Is he hungover, dude? Rebhorn's line delivery of, that's not entirely accurate when they're like, Area 51's not real,

is pretty killer. Boy. If you guys want to vamp for just a moment, that would be greatly appreciated. I was just vamping. I know, that was good vamping, but I was trying to pay attention to you, but now I'll ignore you

while I look at what I should be trying to do. Did Rebhorn ever play president? He should have. It feels like he should have ascended to that position. He feels like he could have been on 24 as a president. Yes. I think his character from the game eventually ran for president. I'm also looking at...

There's a great Wikipedia page list of actors who have played the president, and apparently it's quite extensive. Shout out to this person. He plays president sign off there we go ventures of rocky and bullwinkle movie there you go oh well don't burn my pics yeah okay i i've gonna i'm gonna take something in biopic just so i can clear this okay and this is a movie that i like quite a bit that unfortunately did not make the kevin costner

hall of fame but i will be taking Bruce Greenwood as John F. Kennedy in 13 days. There goes another one off of my list. Yeah, you wanted that one. I wanted that too. Now, this is a darn good movie.

This is just a sturdy American political thriller. You should be forced to do the Kevin Costner accent for the rest of this pod. So I called Bob. God damn it, Jack. The Cubans. He's actually not allowed to go to Cape Cod after that movie came out. God damn it, Jack. The Cubans.

He's actually not allowed to go to Cape Cod after that movie came out. We went to that Bay of Pigs there. And we said, no more. We're going to

park that car. It's like he saw Mayor Quimby and nobody else. It was like, I think I get it. God damn it, Sean. Well, this category

is a menace. Yeah. So we got to, I think I made a mistake going Oscar nominee so early. So anyway, I got to get thatace. Yeah. So we got to, I think I made a mistake going Oscar nominee so early. So anyway, I got to get that off the board. Good movie though.

Very good movie. All right. Now we're back to Griffin. Chris is so bummed out. He's like, what am I going to do? Also like one of the rare good Kennedys. I think it's the performance of Kennedy.

Yeah, the performance of John. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of glitters. We don't need to. Not a caricature at all. And it's important to note, there are several classic representations or suggestions

of a president, but they do not appear in a film. So say, JFK. I do not think JFK, you could say that that's a candidate.

Agreed. There is no... All the presidents met, I don't feel like Nixon appears in a film. No, it's all voices. Yeah. Right. I mean, there like Nixon appears in the film. No, it's all voices. Yeah. Right.

I mean, there's a vantage point from which you could argue that any film set in the United States of America past a certain point in time has a president, even if it isn't acknowledged. I could draft Toy Story and say that's a film about the Clinton administration, but I'm not going to do that. In the category of biopic, I am going to draft Secret Honor. Great movie. Okay. The Robert Altman, Philip Baker Hall.

A loose biopic. Yeah. Well, look, we're all having fun here. An imagined biopic. Yeah. A cinematic monologue of self-immolation. Another example, much like Hopkins, of Philip Baker Hall giving an incredible performance that is not too concerned with

trying to impersonate a man who certainly there are so many examples of people playing Nixon on film that are often even to this day just some random dude splattered in makeup doing a rich little impression and Philip Baker Hall is really kind of

trying to invest in the idea of this dude as... I feel like Hopkins always said that he viewed him as this, like, Shakespearean sort of figure. The idea of this man collapsing from the inside. I'm also realizing so far I'm basically only picking presidents who have

made horrible decisions. I'm about to add to that, so that's okay. Great. Fantastic. I gotta go in biopic because I only have to add to that. So that's okay. Fantastic. I got to go in biopic because I only have one option left that I thought of. There's been a run on it.

And so, in biopic, from a film that I and the rest of America very much respected, Oppenheimer, I will be taking Gary Oldman

as Harry Truman. You sly fox. Thank you so much. I thought about it. There we go. It didn't even occur to me. There we go. He's on my list.

Yeah. He's good. I almost want to hand you the handkerchief. Yeah, thank you so much. Yeah. And him in that moment in that movie is very effective. You're just like, oh, wait, that's Gary Oldman, and he's going for it.

It's kind of when the movie turns. I had like one day to shoot that sequence because he was in the middle of Slow Horses. He's been recently telling this. He was like, all right, Chris, fine, I'll do it,

but I have 18 hours for you to portray Harry S. Truman and then I have to go. Bit rude. So my turn? Yeah. What do you have so far? I have Oscar and comedy.

I have Strangelove and Idiocracy well I'd like to I'd like to do something here that I may need a ruling for okay I would like to take George W. Bush

in Vice yeah Sam Rockwell's performance because I also had that on the list. Oscar nominated. I love him in this. In what category?

Biopic. I know it's a biopic of a different person. Oh, but we didn't... I think that's allowed. But he is... He is the president in the movie.

In a biopic. Yes. I think it counts. I think that that is also sly. Because we did not previously negotiate it, we have to allow it. Okay. I think it counts. I think that that is also sly. Because we did not previously negotiate it, we have to allow it. Okay. Yeah.

All right. Thank you. That's good. He was also on my list, but I only had him in Oscar nominee. Love to eat chicken while they negotiate, basically, Cheney coming aboard. He does an amazing job of reminding you

how he got elected president. Because you're like, George W. Bush, she seems like a nice guy. Wait, not to interrupt you guys, but isn't that what Amanda just did also with Oppenheimer

in biopic as well or did you take that in a different category Amanda did you take that I took it in biopic yeah so it's different yeah yeah

he's the president in a biopic yeah um that Vice is like since it's a biopic of the vice president

I see what Chris was doing but it's totally legal I don't like Vice, but I think Rockwell is the best part of it. And it has the best handle on that. I've always contended

that Tyler Perry is the best part of it. He's okay. That he is in the fucking pocket in that movie. He's pretty good. Okay, so two to David. Oh, boy.

Wow, things are going. We're just moving. We're flying along. We're getting a little bit, we're running low on hardcore classics. So I got two, and I have, okay, I have comedy open, and I have Oscar nominee open,

and I have vice president open. Oh, that's a little scary. Okay. Or cabinet. And you just told us that chief of staff is a member of the cabinet. So I think if chief of staff is a member of the cabinet, according to Wikipedia, then the director of the CIA, national intelligence, you know, that really opens it up. Yeah.

I mean, those are administrative positions. Why don't you look at Wikipedia? Excuse me, Mr. Dad, president judge over there said that chief of staff. I'm going to open up Wikipedia. I don't know if I don't really consider head of the CIA a cabinet position. Talk to the editors. Well, let's read from ObamaWhiteHouse.Archives.gov. This is useful.

Yeah. The tradition of the cabinet. Is it just his playlist from Spotify? This is my favorite Kendrick Lamar song. Phoebe Bridgers. The tradition of the cabinet dates back to the beginnings of the presidency itself,

established in Article 2, Section 2 of the Constitution, et cetera, et cetera. The cabinet includes the vice president and the heads of 15 executive departments, the secretaries of agriculture,

commerce, defense, education, energy, health and human services, homeland security, housing and urban development, interior labor, state, transportation, Energy, Health and Human Services, Homeland Security, Housing and Urban Development, Interior, Labor, State, Transportation, Treasury, and Veterans Affairs, as well as the Attorney General. Those are the only roles listed. Yeah, because often you'll see a CIA head.

Why are you yelling at me? I think that my voice is quite low. Even though it was not in that description, in this list, White House chief of staff, Environmental Protection Agency administrator is here. Council of Economic Affairs is here. United States Mission to the United Nations. Small business administration. Apparently, these are all eligible.

Yeah, of course. Obama.gov isn't going to be like, yeah, and then my homie, the director of the CIA. On WhiteHouse.gov, director of the CIA is listed. Currently on WhiteHouse.gov. What other roles are listed? Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy. And there are a lot of great movies. Is the director of Treadstone listed there?

No. Yeah, that's the point. You can't have the director of Treadstone be available for this draft. The guy calling plays for the 49ers, which is now Chris's job.

It would be funny if the director of Treadstone forgot to take himself off the official White House site while operating in C. He's like, we've covered our tracks except we do have a page

on Obama.gov or whatever. Chief of Staff, Secretary of Homeland Security is on here too. This is kind of a mess. We should have said the secretaries that are acknowledged and the VP because now

we're getting into territory like the director of the CIA that's a whole other I think this is going perfectly I think people are just reaching around for crazy stuff when

Leon Panetta spoke at the DNC you said what according to born.fandom.com you don't have a joke According to born.fandom.com. You don't have a joke. No, I just wanted to say it. All right. I'm going to take... Look, I'm taking...

This is a... All right. In Oscar nominee, I'm taking Primary Colors. I'm taking John Travolta's performance as Jack Stanton, in quotes, in Primary Colors, which is kind of an underrated movie at this point, I think. I agree with you. I think people don't think about it enough. I always liked it.

Mike Nichols' film. It got a little bit, I don't want to say pilloried, but it was pretty criticized in its time. Yeah. I mean, it was just part of the whole Clinton pop culture. And you were the anonymous political reporter who wrote the novel. That was me. Yeah, they did the analysis. They studied your writing.

Exactly. Anonymous comments. Yeah. Emma Thompson, very good in this. She is. Yep. Great cast. Kathy Bates, right?

Kathy Bates. Billy Bob Thorntonon amazing as uh you know you know but what's the guy's name who's he playing carville carville yeah i mean he's playing richard jamin oh sure yeah james carville back in the news in my text messages every eighth hour why oh he's texting me saying sir we need more money who do you think what do you think is the chain of commerce that led to you getting a i don't know because i don't give money to political candidates so i don't i really don't know i get a lot from kamala they don't need my fucking money this is a scam and everyone knows

and tim and i got also the the really sassy text message being like we texted you being like yeah are you gonna respond to this poll? And you didn't. Amanda, it's giving the end of democracy. And so I'm assuming that's some of like my bullshit, like direct to consumer Instagram, like skincare purchases. Kamala climbed down from the coconut tree. When will you? But like when? Who leads you to?

These are the texts. Are you an undecided voter? Is it like? I'm never getting notes from Republican is it sports betting like what I don't bet on sports either I don't know

is it like your athleisure purchases is like boring I have no idea you know it is probably guys why am I getting text messages from

political candidates I don't know I have successfully dodged it in my life which I really appreciate until now I'm on a do not call list I today in the handful of hours before this record received a combined dodged it in my life, which I really appreciate. Until now. I'm on a do not call list. I,

today, in the handful of hours before this record, received a combined five calls and text messages from people addressing me

by my first name in response to a bark.com listing for a graphic design position. So, this has now overtaken my paranoia of the DNC

having my number. All right. So, I took primary colors. In in comedy i'm taking dick i'm going all 90s wow that's good damn it david that's really double nixon double nixon i'm taking andrew fleming's uh wonderful kind of understated at times and then other times completely over the top comedy dick uh which has just another flavor of n. Dan Hedaya going full Bulldog cartoon. Absolutely hilarious.

And, you know, just at the top of their game, Kiki Dunstan, Michelle Williams. And then Bruce McCullough and Will Ferrell as Woodward and Bernstein. I mean, Bernstein and Woodward. This could have been a smart strategic play in Cabinet. Have you picked in Cabinet yet? Haven't picked in Cabinet yet. I have a pick there. We'll see if I get it.

Okay. I'm being a little careful. I mean, we'll see. Dick's great, right? You're mad, Sean? Sean's mad. It was on my list. Fun movie.

It was on my list as well. It was great. I obviously worship that movie. Comedy is fascinating. There's still a lot of comedies on the board. A ton of comedies. But are they good comedies is really the question. That's the question.

Yeah. Okay, so Chris Ryan is up. I think I could get double points here technically, but there's no such thing. But in Cabinet... You could say that about literally anything. In Cabinet, Veep in Cabinet, I'm taking Secretary of State Charlotte Field

from the film Longshot, who ends the film as the president this was literally the person at the top of my list mine as well but then

I moved her to top of wild card I think you did the wrong pick but that's okay I have lots of wild cards yeah same so

this is good thank you her negotiation of a military crisis while rolling on Molly the three of us are huge fans of this movie loved. Her negotiation of a military crisis while ruling on Mali. The three of us are huge fans of this movie. Yeah, loved it. A bit of a bewildering,

like why did this die on the vine so hard? And similar to Dick, a movie that just like totally bombed at the box office and then it felt like within six months, people were like, why wasn't this a hit?

It got reclaimed almost immediately. It had that really early May spot. And it was like pre-pandemic, but it was still like- It was the Fall Guy of its era. Yeah. The South by premiere. A lovely movie. Have you seen the extended cut of Fall Guy?

No, but I did watch the ad for it with you at my house the other night. So that was nice. Do you guys subscribe to Peacock? Oh, yeah. Premium. I do. I love Peacock, man. Kick those ads out of bed.

Lecoq has the really good stuff. Lecoq? Lecoq. That's what I. Lecoq? Lecoq. That's what I was calling it when it was the Olympics. Is that like a Roy Allen TV station? Can I give Peacock its flowers? I feel like Peacock arguably does the best job of the non-criterion streaming services. It has good movies.

Sure rated playlists. They'll do the groupings of sort of like Olympic movies or things like that. I like that. There's a hand. There's an authorial hand behind the desk of Peacock. One of the reasons I don't like that is because that's the job of this podcast, not the job of the streaming services. These corporations have enough. Leave something for us, such as making lists.

But what if Peacock came through and we're like, Sean, here's $2 million a year. Then we're talking. I mean, this has been one long tryout for Lecoq. You know? Is it my pick? Bringing us back to the Dave conversation.

Are you third? Did you want to say anything about Charlie's... I mentioned that she negotiates a military crisis while rolling on Molly. That is a truly funny scene. Yeah.

It's really, really genuinely good. Seth Rogen just amazingly charming in that movie yeah she's great yeah totally Amanda you're

another feather in her cap she allows a Todd McFarlane portrait to be hung up in the White House oh I had a question for you guys do you think she'll show up again in the MCU

oh yeah because she was at the end of Doctor Strange she was at the end of Doctor Strange too no I never saw that oh my god yeah

I completely forgot about that. Remember when we went to see Spider-Man and they showed the trailer and I was like, Rachel McAdams is in these movies? It's either going to be

the first Doctor Strange either. No. Are they going to cross over with Harry Styles? Strange 2, but not Strange 1. Strange 2 had, like, the body horror stuff. They should do a Marvel movie

of all the characters that they abandoned from... Yeah. Yeah. That's probably going to be Deadpool 4. You're just describing a movie that's called Eternals 2 with like two extra characters. Yeah. I am waiting for them to put one Eternals character into another movie.

Just to take that risk. Like to have Barry Keoghan show up. Droog. He's actually pretty good in that movie. I'm just going to say it. That movie's good. No, David, come on. David and I both kind of like Eternals.

Barry's the only good Marvel movie. That's why he's in Peaky Blinders movies. I got to get back to my source material. I will not stand any Eternals is good discussion here on this podcast. Okay, guys. Eternals is low-key good. Marvel Phase 4 underrated? Start that up.

What did you think of Shang-Chi? Did you think that was an accurate representation of dragon culture you're gonna go into labor right now do you think i thought he was good but no the the last set like the last set piece of the dragon was very confusing and i didn't like it destin daniel cretin was just named director of Spider-Man 4? Which Tom Holland will also be in. But I read that it's a prequel to Short Term 12 as well.

Oh, sure. Right, so Short Term 11. But it's like Captain Marvel started out as a woman. Okay, in drama, I'm going to take a performance I didn't rewatch, to be perfectly honest,

so I haven't seen this movie in five years. But I remember it being good. Anyway, Jeff Bridges as President Jackson Evans in The Contender. Yeah, very high on my list as well. this movie in five years but uh i remember it being good anyway jeff bridges as uh president jackson evans in the contender yeah very rock obama's favorite movie president he will always say that in interviews he is so fucking good in that movie it's that that fairly stupid movie he it's insane it is a pretty dumb movie but he's charming and like mostly does the right thing, but is still a politician. And yeah, Griffin, to the Obama point, I was Googling that to make sure.

That quote originally came from a 2008 Entertainment Weekly list where it's like before the Barack Obama lists, there was this of him being like, these are my favorite movies and TV shows. So we've been dealing with this for almost 20 years now. Amanda hates Barack Obama curating things. I don't mind it, and I even thought it was cool that he had Charlie on there. But when he went on I've Had It, you were like... Which is a podcast I've never

heard of, and Chris was like, oh yes, of course. I know the podcast, I've Had It, because he keeps up with all the blonde women just yelling. You're a like, you know, all the blonde women just yelling into the blonde brand. Yeah, I know it. We all know it. And then you would throw your life away for the hosts of I've had it. He just didn't sell the fact that he had ever heard the Charlie XX album.

I didn't believe him in that moment. And that was troubling for me. You're saying a politician lied. Amanda is if you lied about that, what else is he lying about? Yeah. Good point. Never seen the contender.

Is Barack Obama to you what Peacock is to Sean where you're angry that he's taking your job of curating the pop culture for the masses? No, I don't... I guess maybe a little bit.

I don't get as mad about it as I do about Hillary Clinton tweeting about Barbie in the popular vote. But it is like a little bit on the same thing of just like we have problems, you know, and I need you to spend less time making lists and more time doing stuff. I just want to say Jeff Bridges in The Contender, his whole thing is he keeps ordering bizarre stuff from the White House cafeteria including a shark sandwich yeah good bit yeah and then the critical dramatic moment of the movie is when they call and they say they don't have any monster cheese and that's like when everything

falls apart in the movie and it's really great uh speaking just a side tangent but rod lurie film correct yep i was in a cbs pilot that rod lurie uh directed correct? Yep. I was in a CBS pilot that Rod Lurie directed called The Surgeon General. That was a weekly CBS procedural starring Jason Isaacs as the Surgeon General. I was hoping you were the titular Surgeon General. Would you believe I was? Well, that's like a Doogie Howser thing where it's like, oh, no, the Surgeon General is this 20-year-old. I was his nervous assistant who handed him paperwork and said, sir, the honeybees keep dying. Question. Is the

Surgeon General in the cabinet? If the Attorney General is? I can't tell if you want this person because you want to draft them or you just want to expand our definition of the cabinet. I'm learning. They are not in the cabinet. Is NHL Commissioner Rob Memfrey?

Gary Bettman. The Attorney General, yes. Sur Attorney General, yes. Surgeon General, no. Wow. No, I think they appoint Surgeon General. They do, but he's not in the cabinet. He's not in the cabinet. He reports to the United States Assistant Secretary for Health.

He's down on the totem pole. The pitch on this show was like, what if House was the Surgeon General? It was this kind of ornery guy with a heart of gold secretly buried deep. And everyone thought it was a really hot pilot. And then they watched it and they realized, oh, if we pick this up to series, there has to be a national health crisis every week. This is not sustainable. For something to hit the Surgeon General's desk, it has to basically be a pandemic. What does he do then?

He mostly just tells you to like go take a walk outside. Stop smoking. He's like, we gotta fix this problem. He doesn't just remove someone's gallbladder just to kind of keep up with his skills? They just issue statements like, smoking's bad for you. Yeah, he handwrites a Surgeon General's

warning on every pack of cigarettes. That's actually mostly what he does all day. Really good penmanship. So Griffin, you are now up. I had to do some serious pivoting and re-strategizing. VP and cabinet was the category I had the least figured out and all my options were taken off the board. And after some extensive Googling, I've decided to draft a U.S. Secretary of Defense, John Keller from the 2007 Michael Bay film Transformers as portrayed by John Voight.

Wow. Yes. Absolutely amazing. Thank you. I'm really proud of myself for pulling You are the best. That's awesome. Now would you say

that SecDef Keller has a standout scene in Transformers? Is he pro-Transformer? Anti-Transformer? Well he's pro-Autobot and anti-Decepticon which if you ask me

is the right stance to have. Yeah. I agree. Sounds like a progressive mind. Yes. I mean, you're talking, this is a Secretary of Defense who boots on the ground, picks up a shotgun, goes into the Hoover Dam with

Anthony Anderson. I have no memory of this movie. And the world's hottest blonde Australian scientist. God, I wish Transformers were real so that I could be, like, the MAGA guy of Decepticons. Jay is so fucking good. I can't believe it.

Griffin, have you seen Transformers 1 yet? No, I've heard good things. Have you seen it? I liked it. Yeah, I did. Not only that, I've interviewed the director of the film My guy Josh Cooley.

That's when you're like living on another planet, right? Cybertron is the name of the planet. That's their home planet. These are robots that turn into cars. I know. They're robots in disguise, Amanda. I saw the one about JFK and the moon landing.

Dark of the Moon. The Dark of the Moon. That's the best Transformers movie. I still, I think the first is the purest. It's the purest shot from the twisted mind of Michael Bay. A movie that basically I feel like shows only a W-coded president very briefly in voiceover and a shot of his feet. So Jack Keller is the main representation of the U.S. government you get in the film. And he's active. He's hands-on. He has politics almost as good as Jon Voight's in real life.

Griffin, you bring up an interesting little wrinkle here. I'm trying to remember it now, but like, what do we, you know, do we consider films that are largely like 80s, 90s and aughts action movies where a real president briefly appears in news footage, apparently commenting on the action taking place in the film? Not eligible. Your contacts. Just curious. Contact. That was exactly what I was thinking. We eligible. Your contacts. Just curious. Contact. That was exactly

what I was thinking of. We didn't talk about documentaries, though. I thought we said they were eligible. You said they were eligible. But not on the podcast, right? No one's made the move yet, though.

Who is the president in Crimson Tide? That's what I want to know. It would be Clinton, right? Yeah. Crimson Tide, 93? 95. 95? Yeah. Wow. Tide, 93? 95. 95?

Yeah. Wow. Okay. You got two picks. I do. In the rapidly dwindling category of comedy, I'm going to make a callback to a film I just talked about in the past future,

and I'm going to take President Dale from Mars Attacks as portrayed by Jack Nicholson. There you go. He's really funny. I'm quite certain that President Dale is not a good president. I would even say

in fantasy speak. I would have evidence of that in the world of the film. His strategy in terms of engaging with these creatures not sound. No.

And he Would you say it was deterrence? What was it? Exploration. Yeah. Perhaps leaning more science over war. Whereas my guy Rod Steiger Would you say it was deterrence? What was it? Exploration. Perhaps leaning more science over war. Whereas my guy Rod Steiger,

as the general in that film, he had the right idea, which was we had to kill, kill, kill. Just saw Mars Attacks. Great movie. I'm a big fan. Huge fan. And Jack is very funny.

He also has another role as a casino developer. Is he married to Annette Bening in the film? Yeah, correct. He does two roles. He also has another role as a casino developer who is... Is he married to Annette Bening in the film? Yeah. Correct. He does two roles. He's a common law.

Yeah. You haven't seen Mars Attacks. Not in a very long time. Okay. Much maligned at the time, but I think very funny. Perhaps when it came out, I think I saw it.

Can I do my Mars Attacks rant, Griffin? Can I do it briefly? Oh, boy. Okay. Can I do it? I forget this. Yeah. No, about the title.

Above the Line Billing. Oh, sure. The five names above the title. This is no rant. This is a manifesto. Jack Nicholson, Glenn Close, Annette Bening, Pierce Brosnan, who plays the scientist guy, and Danny DeVito. Danny DeVito's character in that movie does not have a name.

He's credited as Rude Gambler. It's one of our favorite things to talk about, David. And yet he is one of the five people above the title in Mars Attacks, even though he plays a guy who shows up for two scenes as a rude gambler. And there are equally big stars who have roles the same size as his. Sarah Jessica Parker, Michael J. Fox, Martin Shore. Sarah Jessica Parker, much larger role. I'm saying Michael J. Fox has a little more screen time than DeVito,

has a character name. And Jim Brown and Pam Greer are much bigger Jim Brown and Pam Greer great examples Jack Black he's in the film Christina Applegate she's in the film

I will say I had considered drafting this but specifically drafting Taffy Dale Natalie Portman's character

his daughter who is sworn in at the very end of the film that's right would have been a good call and says we should all be nice to each other or whatever.

Which, for me, that's a good stump speech. That's the kind of policy I can believe in. Would you vote for Portman if she ran? She's legal age now. To run for president, you mean. Not anything else. No. Not president of the PTA.

I don't know. You would not. Honestly. I'm not sure. One day we'll do a Portman episode and you will finally be free. Will I? Fine.

She's won several. She's won on Oscar. She didn't win the other one, right? I thought she might. She's won so many Oscars from me personally. I thought it was cool when she addressed all her divorce rumors by just like posting images from heartbreak.

The Nora. Do you think Millipie is down really bad or is he crushing right now? Oh, I think he's doing quite well. He's out in the street. Yeah. Well, that was part of the problem. Is she raising those children by herself? He was in the Parisian streets.

Yeah, I think he's on point right now. He's taking care of things. Yeah, there we go. Okay. Yeah. Okay, I have another pick. I'm taking Benjamin Millipie. Okay, I know what I'm going to do.

I'm going to make a pick in VP or cabinet from a movie that, by this time, I will have already talked about the best election movies on the Press Box podcast, but I was revisiting this recently for that.

It's 1964's The Best Man, a movie written by Gore Vidal about a race for president and an Adlai Stevenson-esque former Secretary of State named William Russell as portrayed by Henry Fonda. Okay. This movie is now 60 years old. I think it is as smart former Secretary of State in William Russell as portrayed by Henry Fonda.

This movie is now 60 years old. I think it is as smart and revealing about basically like the frail human psychology that goes into people who run for office and also what the public

demands of those people. And Fonda, who of course is the president in Failsafe, same year portraying this character who is more mercurial more mysterious

there's this big secret about his past that is maybe preventing him from becoming a front runner in this race opposite Cliff Robertson who seems like a real demon

in the movie really great movie and I guess a good secretary of state I honestly have no idea I've never seen this movie I gotta check it out

it's on my list but I didn't get to it. I also noticed that about 10 years later, Henry Fonda played the president yet again in a film called Meteor,

about a meteor. Yes. Yes. Is it an Irwin Allen style disaster movie? I think it's not an Irwin Allen, but an Irwin Allen

adjacent film. And it was nominated for Best Sound, so you can take it to an Oscar nominee, Griff, if you really want to. I already picked Being There, but it was, yeah, it was nominated for Best Sound, so you can take it an Oscar nominee, Griff, if you really want to. I already picked Being There,

but it was, yeah, it was a squeaker between those two. Okay, Griffin, you're up. Okay. Look, the title was burned early on. I thought I was going to

shock and bewilder everyone by picking it, but I've been left with no choice in the comedy category. I am going to draft President Abraham Lincoln from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Yeah. Now, in the comedy category. I am going to draft President Abraham Lincoln from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

Now, here's my argument, I think widely agreed upon as one of the best, if not the best, American presidents in history. If we are investing into the Bill and Ted timeline, this is like a super Lincoln who not only accomplishes everything we know Lincoln to have done, but he gets to midterm,

step into the future, gain a wider perspective than any president has ever had, a notion of the ripple effects of his actions, and come back to his timeline wiser for it. And there's also a bravery to, I imagine someone has told him, hey, by the way, man,

when you go back, you're getting shot. Yeah, yeah. And he knows what he has to do. He doesn't do anything dramatic enough that Bill and Ted wake up in a different world. by the way, man, when you go back, you're getting shot. Yeah, yeah. And he knows what he has to do. He doesn't do anything dramatic enough that Bill and Ted wake up in a different world. There's no back to the future effect here. There's a selflessness to this Lincoln who gives also one of the greatest monologues of all time,

four score and seven minutes ago. Man, Bill and Ted is funny. It rules. It's the funniest premise for a movie ever. It gets funnier the more I think about it. I've said this too many times on Blank Check, but it is a movie I rented from the video store across the street. Couch Potato Video. Watched it.

My brother was having a sleepover. The second I finished the movie, I ran out and I said, guys, you got to watch this immediately and watched it a second time with them. Wow. I said, guys, you got to watch this immediately and watched it a second time with them. And during it, I convinced my brother that the guy who played Lincoln had won an Academy Award for this performance. And he believed it for a bit. That's a beautiful origin story of how one grows up to be a weird movie podcaster. Correct. Yeah, basically, that's the whole thing in a nutshell. It'd be cool if DDL came out of retirement to play Lincoln in a Bill and Ted sequel. Yes.

I personally am looking forward to Daniel Day-Lewis' Redbox, like, I make a movie every six months era. Daniel Day-Lewis is the killer's assistant. He's just suddenly filming in Moldova. And Frank Grillo. He bought too many dinosaur skulls and now his whole process is out the window. The guy just shows up, cue cards, hits his mark, says the lines. John Travolta's the killer. And Daniel Day-Lewis is his assistant.

He's assisting in murder. Sorry. It was good. That was good. It's nice when movie phone voice comes out. Okay. I have VP and cabinet and wildcard left. So in VP and cabinet, I will take my original choice.

Well, that's not true, actually. I think I was going to take Charlize in long shot and break the glass ceiling, but you did that for us, Chris. So thank you so much. Thank you to women. I'm an ally. We're leading. So instead I will take U.S. Secretary of the Treasury William Cleary, a.k.a.

Christopher Walken from Wedding Crashers. Wow. Oh, that's great. That's fucking awesome. Which, to be fair, this movie came out in 2005, so you gotta figure that he's the Secretary of the Treasury for the Bush administration, which is frankly not what you want.

Very fancy. that he's the Secretary of the Treasury for the Bush administration, which is, frankly, not what you want. And also... Very fancy. Yeah, and also I can't really say that he's a good parent based on how two of his three children turn out in the film. Isla Fisher and Todd. And he wants to welcome Sack into his life.

Exactly. He's like, Sack is the guy. So, in many ways not my kind of guy but but that house and that wedding are pretty awesome and obviously was not satisfying his wife sure but also yeah he locked down jane seymour but she's like getting vince vaughn to motorboater but like because she's jane seymour you know like i think it's all very i think it's a good pick. Thank you so much. You're drafting less the politician,

more the lifestyle. It is a pretty good wedding. Yeah, you like the Chesapeake vibe. John McCain's in that film. And Carville. And Carville. That's right, he's back. John McCain.

Do you think you'd want to be the Secretary of Treasury? No, I don't. I don't think you'd want me on that wall. Anybody? If you could have any cabinet position. I would do Secretary of State, for sure. Yeah, you get to travel. That's kind of fun.

But a little stressful. What happens when things go... I feel like my charm translates into any language. Your charm translates into any language. Is that what you tell all the ladies? Okay. Next up is Chris. Is it me now?

Yes. All right. Well, a lot of my long list has been taken up. So I'm going to go for drama. An underrated moment in a great film. And I'm selecting the unnamed president from Armageddon. Wow. Who soothes a terrified world population.

I do. Like, I almost called out during the podcast when I saw you, because I can't see your computer, and I saw you just Googling Armageddon president YouTube. No, I wanted to. I was Googling his speech because I remember every time being quite moved

by his speech that through all the tribulations that the world's people have gone through, we've always had courage. Little known fact about that character that in the original script

his name was OJ Simpson and they changed it. They changed it to unnamed. Okay, cool. So you had the choice to take President Tom Beck from Deep Impact. I did. Portrayed by Morgan Freeman.

I think that honestly, I mean, the president in Armageddon empowered his, empowered NASA to think outside the box and hire drillers to go to an asteroid. No asteroids land on planet Earth in Armageddon. This is true. One lands in

deep impact. One to zero. And also, Morgan Freeman, God bless him, will show up in any war room in any cabinet in any movie you want. So are we sure this guy is gooding Morgan Freeman? He seems a veil for every administration.

I see. It was such a big deal at the time. Morgan Freeman. Just about his, like, he seems a veil for every administration. I see. Okay. It was such a big deal at the time. Like, I remember the genuine sort of thrill of like,

ooh, Morgan Freeman, but he faxed that performance in. Like, he doesn't do anything in Deep Impact. Yeah. No,

it's also, some speeches. While that the Has Fallen trilogy kind of coasts off of this as well, but the first two movies are,

he is not president, but based on Eckhart getting in trouble, chain of succession, he is not president but based on Eckhart getting in trouble chain of succession he becomes acting president. The first movie he's President Asher keeps getting kidnapped.

Right. The first movie he's Speaker of the House. The second movie he's moved up to Vice President but I think he isn't actually president until the third.

Right. I think we need to circle back on you guys blaspheming Deep Impact, a movie that moved me to my core. Is this the one that you guys watched on vacation

and like started crying? Yeah. Where a teenage amateur astronomer is portrayed by Elijah Wood who hates the meteor. This is an incredible movie. What's the film

where Hilary Swank and Aaron Eckhart have to drill into the center of the Earth? The core. An American. Of course. Is Alfre Woodard

the president in that? Let's find out. I just watched this movie six weeks ago. She plays, no, she's like mission control at NASA. Oh? Let's find out. I just watched this movie six weeks ago. She plays, no, she's like mission control at NASA.

Oh, she's mission control. Not a Catholic. I don't know that there is. Were I voting? Because then you could pick Ed Harris from Fall of 15. You guys remember

in Deep Impact when they put fucking Robert Duvall in space because he was like a retired astronaut? That movie is crazy. It's like 70 years old in that movie. When you're 70, will you go to space?

I'm doing Shatner rules. Don't go until you're 90. Yeah. Alright, David. You've got two picks. Alright, I'm wrapping it up. Alright, for VP and Cabinet, okay, you've got two picks. Are these your final two? All right, I'm wrapping it up. All right. For VP and cabinet, okay. I am taking from the film Head of State, Mitch Gilliam. Wow.

As played by Bernie Mac. Oh, my God. A film people have basically forgotten. Chris Rock's Head of State. Have you guys watched it? Any of you guys watched it recently? Bernie Mac's incredible. Bernie Mac is unbelievable.

He comes in, he's only in the movie for like 20, 15, 20 minutes maybe. But like above the title second build because he was, he had so much heat

at that moment. Because everything he says is funny. Yes. It's just flames over the, you know, the base.

It's incredible stuff. The movie, you watch it, it's so, so dated by like one year later. it's so so off even forgetting that eventually obama gets elected or whatever but uh there's something about it that's kind of charming that's how i feel about all chris rock movies where i'm like i wish this was really

good and instead it's like kind of an imitation of a good movie but i'm picking bernie mack i didn't know who else to pick there. Quick story. I just Googled head of state and was surprised to find Joe Biden was the return I got. Who? Oh, wow.

Okay, sure. I was hoping to get the movie. Did not get it. I had to Google head of state film. Yeah, the SEO on that one was bad. That's true. What's the best Chris Rock directed movie? Top five.

I think it's head of state. Head of state, top five, or I Think I Love My Wife. Top five. He didn't direct the Saw movie? No. No, it just came from the twisted mind of Chris Rock. Spiral from the Book of Saw would be the worst movie he ever directed, had he directed it. I just don't like Top Five that much.

I don't either. I guess it's I Think I Love My Wife by default for me. It's definitely not I Think I Love My Wife. What's he remaking now? I Think I love my wife by default for me it's definitely not I think I love my wife what's he remaking now? I think I love my wife it's a year he's been

oh last what's the the drinking movie the Another Round he's remaking Another Round? oh yes

okay isn't he also making an MLK movie or something? what's going on with that? okay and he he had written a remake of High and Low for Mike Nichols

that seems to be stuck in development hell. Well, because they're also remaking High and Low elsewhere. Oh, right. Yes. Yes. But he loves remaking highbrow Criterion Collection films. He's got good taste, if nothing else. Yeah.

I've got a lot of picks here in wild card. I guess I can just mention a few of them after we're done, but I don't know because it's like... Be bold. Well, you know...

Be best. Do I want to take a good guy or a good movie, right? That's where it comes down. Mm-hmm. That is the eternal question. I'm taking Donald Pleasance

and Escape from New York. God damn it. That was going to be my wild card. David. That guy's crazy, but I kind of like him. Great pick, man. Great pick.

And that movie rocks. And I think when your character is literally just president of the United States, I think that's all he is. He doesn't even have a name. And just Pleasence is the president. He's just an absolute sort of like you know over the top delight I'm picking that over some silly other choices

son of a bitch yeah he's not very nice no you know it was between that and what you know I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say

okay for my wild card I'm really split here it's down to two okay I think I'll go with Jonathan Price from G.I. Joe Rise of Cobra and also G. Okay. I think I'll go with Jonathan Price from G.I. Joe

Rise of Cobra and also G.I. Joe Retaliation. Although at some point he gets replaced. You have to pick one and let's be clear.

Are you picking Zartan or Price as the real president? Incredible. Griffin, this was on my list as well. So I want clarity. I'm so moved right now to be in the presence of people

who would do things like this. I feel like I have found my calling. You are the true Cobra Commander. There's no doubt about it in my mind. Chris, break it down. I just think it's like, we have to acknowledge the fact that this is an amazing performance by Chris,

who doesn't get a president's name. He's got this really annoying kid that's really funny, and I can't remember which one that's in, who keeps trying to assassinate him with a Nerf gun. But at one point, he is taken over by a master what? Impressionist?

I don't even know. Zartan. Master of Disguise? Master of Disguise. And Zartan takes over the role and kidnaps the president and takes it over and then launches nukes. Right? Sure. Correct. I think that's in Retaliation. I never saw the sequel. Quick Zartan

question for you guys. Is that hair or like a headpiece? Headpiece. Are we sure? Yeah, the G.I. Joe lore is heavy with hoods. It seems like an uncomfortable hood. I mean, it's not connected to a hoodie.

No, well, this is another thing. But it doesn't cover his face, but he has eye makeup on? Yes. I don't feel like we nailed G.I. Joe. I feel like we could have done better with that work. Really? I think of the three for three so far.

It's like, there's a lot of stars in it. And I just feel like we should have had something more out of that. But yeah, I'll go Jonathan Pryce, Rise of Cobra slash Retaliation. It is an incredible performance. The thing I find fascinating about it is Retaliation is this like almost complete reboot of the franchise because the first one made money, but no one really liked it. And Pryce is really fun in it.

And like the final sort of mic drop at the end of the movie is you realize, oh oh my god Zartan has taken over Jonathan Price he's now in the Oval Office and then the second movie is like all new cast Channing Tatum

there by contractual obligation only Price basically becomes second lead yes and the whole movie is just like Price as evil president

also playing off himself as the real president held in captivity you're making me want to watch this he's great and there's some scene i can't remember which one it's in where zartan as the president launches a nuclear attack on i believe that's retaliation in front of all of like the other world leaders and he's like it's basically like wouldn't it be crazy if i did this and then and then stops it but it's it's been a while since I've seen it. He also drops a bunch of cobra flags down the front of the White House.

He just lets people know. And Biden is going to do that in the next couple of weeks. Did you also see Snake Eyes? I saw Snake Eyes. I saw Snake Eyes in theaters. That's Joseph Gordon-Levitt, right? Well, in the first one. It's Henry Golding.

Oh, Henry Golding is Snake Eyes. Ray Park was Snake Eyes in the first two movies. Joseph Gordon-Levitt was Cobra Commander. Oh, Henry Golding is a snake eye. Ray Park was snake eyes in the first two movies. Joseph Gordon-Levitt was Cobra Commander. Oh, that's right. A.K.A. The Doctor in the first film, but then it was replaced in the second film. Joseph Gordon-Levitt was in the G.I. Joe movie. Amanda, tonight, you're not?

Amanda's catatonic right now. How are you doing? G.I. Joe for five minutes. I'm honestly okay so here's what's happening is that I have wild card left and you were going to go

for Jonathan Brace and Risa Cobra and I know that I need to you know like representation matters right so I gotta I gotta find a woman but and I have a couple candidates, but I was making sure that I didn't miss anyone. And then I was looking at this aforementioned Wikipedia page list of actors who have played president of the United States and they break it out. They're

men and women. And then I saw that on television, Muffy from Arthur became the president. And then I had to figure out who Muffy was, which is not the sister, right? It's a friend. Yeah. She's kind of the peppermint Patty. Yeah.

She's of the Arthur universe. Arthur, the guy who's like holding his fist. Yes, exactly. So that's what I was trying to figure out while you were talking about G.I. Joe, which is whether the sister,

Oh, DW is the sister. Excuse me. I'm so sorry. DW is the, I can't read that sign. That doesn't sign doesn. Excuse me. I'm so sorry. DW is the, I can't read that sign. That sign doesn't bother me because I can't read.

Exactly. Is that an Arthur too? Yeah. Yeah, that's Arthur. There's a lot of Arthur memes out there. I don't know if you noticed from the G.I. Joe Rise of Cobra conversation,

but this is a pod about cinema. We're talking about real shit here. We're talking about Zantan taking over the president. Arthur's never leaped to the big screen. He's picture books and TV only. It doesn't count. That's true. And obviously, if we were doing TV,

then I would have a host of really admirable female presidents and vice presidents to choose from, including... Like President Alison Taylor from 24. I was going to say. Or Selina Meyer. Yeah. Or whoever Tony Goldfin... Mellie from Scandal. I was going to say. Or Selina Meyer. Yeah. Or whoever Tony Goldfinch, Mellie from Scandal.

Anyone with me? Yeah. She becomes president at some point, right? Yeah. Mellie becomes president. That's the thing with those long-running shows where just eventually everyone gets to be the president. Right.

They just cycle them in and out. Do you remember that season where Joey was the president? Friends. Yeah. Claire Underwood obviously becomes president. Anyway. Oh, yeah. That's right. See, this is what what i'm saying and then i don't know what happened with madam secretary but that would have been eligible both for cabinet and i think does madam secretary become president does taylor become president wasn't there a gina davis first female president commander in chief

that was a rod lurie show lurie but it would seem, according to this Wikipedia list, that at some point, Madam Secretary does, in fact, become President Elizabeth Adam Accord. Wow. Anyway, I'm going to take Meryl Streep in Don't Look Up. Wow. So... That was one of the fucking all-time vamps. And you selected a demon who led us to ultimate destruction.

Yes. Well, you know. What do you think that movie is saying about electing a woman? You know, that we're all doomed, no matter what. It was made in the post-Hillary

gaze light. And I understand. And also, I think Meryl would be good at being president. And also, my other main option here, because he already took Charlize, was Uma Thurman in Red, White, and Blue, which is just a remarkable Texas accent

if you haven't been a part of that process. But I really didn't like that movie. And they need to stop selling those guys to me. But you did really like Don't Look Up and specifically... Meryl Streep made me laugh. So...

And I think that Meryl should get to do. What do you want me to take? Iron lady. I can't explain parliament. You know, I can. Okay, go.

Oh, that's right. I know you can. Yeah. David is bored. Yeah. Terrible movie. I prefer don't look up to the iron lady.

I'll say that much. Do you like vice or don't look up more? I think I might look up more? I think I like Don't Look Up more. I think I do too. I think it's a little bit more sincere. Okay.

Don't Look Up actually like affected me. I greatly prefer Don't Look Up. I think it has stuff. Yeah, Vice. That is funny. Yeah.

I'm hopeful that he's going to do a broad comedy at some point. It seems like on Twitter it's leaning in that direction. Is that true? No. Okay.

Okay, Griffin, you have a pick. Your last pick. Okay, with my final pick in wildcard, I will pick Bruce Greenwood as the president in National Treasure Book of Secrets. Incredible performance. This guy can fucking hang.

He is kidnapped into the secret tunnels basically at flashlight point. Yep. By Nicolas Cage. Yes. In a really weird wig. In a really weird wig.

I'm just talking about the hair he has in the movie. Yes. No sideburns. Negative sideburns. It's like digging into the sides of his hair. And he goes from panic to

like begrudging respect to full-on whatever you need my guy so good so quickly this guy is a nerd for u.s history he loves that he's meeting someone else with the same brain as him he gives it all up he tells nicholas cage not just what he needs to know but also hey maybe check out a couple other pages in that book while you're there. In the Book of Secrets. Yes. Amazing sequel tee-up that we never got for the third movie. Bruce Greenwood played president, or I mean, you already

drafted him for 13 days. I did. I feel like visually one of our best on-screen presidents. Yes. Just fits. Fits that fucking role. And a great actor. Is he also playing the president in Gerald's game? Yeah. Handcuffed to the bed.

The president in a sticky situation. Is he the head? No, he's the head of the pilots union in flight. I thought he was the head of the FAA which I was wondering if that's also... He's the president of planes. Not a cabinet position. Yeah, I think so. Okay. I've got the final pick of the draft.

I've thought long and hard about this. And this is sort of a nod to the past and the future. In wildcard, I'll be selecting Secretary of State

Thaddeus Ross from Captain America Civil War. Because he becomes President. And the Incredible Hulk. You're saying that this is eligible.

Infinity War. You don't even want to pick Robert Redford. You're saying that this is eligible. And Avengers Infinity War. You don't even want to pick Robert Redford? You want to take William Hurt? Robert Redford is a member of S.H.I.E.L.D., which is not a rabbit position. He's just a senator? He's part of the deep state. No, he's Hydra. We don't want that.

Oh, but he's not also a senator? No, he plays like a... Yeah, Gary Shandling is the senator. That was a recurring confusing thing where a lot of times people are senators in movies and it's like, well, actually, you don't fit into anything. Wait, so that was wildcard but not cabinet?

No, but we said we could put VP and cabinet positions in wildcard. I thought we said we could put candidates. Yeah, that's what I thought. Oh. Guys, let him have William Hurt. It's a bummer. He's just going to draft Robert Redford

into candidate then, isn't he? No, I watched it last night. No, he's not running for president. Correct. He's only governor in that movie. He's running for governor. Yeah.

The Candidate is one of my favorite movies of all time, but he's not eligible for this. But we have our governor, or gubernatorial. I think that I'll allow this because Thaddeus Ross

becomes president. I will as well. Right. Thaddeus Ross, in the future, will transform three times into Harrison Ford, into the president, into Red Hulk. Right. What happens, I believe what's going to happen in the movie is they tell him women can vote and then he turns into Red Hulk. What? Would you vote for Red Hulk?

I don't know anything about Red Hulk. I didn't know there was a Red Hulk. I don't know why Harrison Ford is doing this. Mid-century modern furniture. Who knows what he's into? Super into what in mid-century? Opera. Oh, opera.

Maybe he's a sophisticate. Sure. Just because he's red. That doesn't make him a bad guy. It was such a sign of Marvel just being like, I don't know, when just in the mid-2000s, they were like,

what if there was like a Red Hulk? That was their whole pitch. People went ballistic. They loved it. Can I give you guys one factoid about Thaddeus Ross? This is one of the reasons why I wanted to take him here.

William Hurt, the late great actor who portrayed Thaddeus Ross in those earlier films, said he took inspiration for the character from Captain Ahab from the novel Moby Dick.

Yeah. He went on to play Ahab in the Moby Dick miniseries. So he's really kind of double Ahab. And Ahab inspired Kevin Costner to make Horizon. That's so they say.

No, no, no, Chris, you get this wrong. He's not Ahab. He keeps repeating. He keeps saying he's not, but I think it is not Ahab. I'm not Ahab shirt.

Yeah. Guys, we're running low on time. I thought before we wrap up, we could very quickly throw out some wild cards. I was looking for a spot for Nick Offerman from Civil War. I kept trying to make that joke.

I mean, he might not be a good president, Chris. I'm not sure. I guess it's up to us. He made some mistakes. You weren't going to take him? No, I thought about it. Kevin James and Pixels. You winding up with Civil War and Oppenheimer

would be pretty funny. Yeah, that's true. I liked the first two hours of Oppenheimer and I think that includes the hour in which Harry Truman shows up.

We'll do a time check on that. I think he's in hour two. I mean, you should let me know. Yeah, I was really tempted by Kevin James in Pixels.

I was dead certain you were going to drag. I like the movie Pixels. I think that is the least defensible part of the movie. It is. It makes no sense. Why is he the president? Yeah, I thought about this. I've never seen

Jefferson in Paris. I thought about re-watching it for this, and then I thought we were doing, like, decades, and I was like, well, I would never burn a 90s pick on that. Bonjour! I'm in Paris now. I kind of want to check it out. For Jefferson,

I was thinking you could go Daveed Diggs as Thomas Jefferson slash Lafayette in Hamilton. I wondered whether Hamilton was... The musical, the film. Is it a movie? That's interesting. Hamilton, the musical, the film. Do you think it's a movie? I mean, I certainly did it when I watched the movie version of it, but in the

context of it was being... they released it as a film. They did. Yeah, but it won Emmys, but was nominated for Golden Globes in film categories. All of this is shenanigans in my eyes. Gene Hackman plays the president in Welcome to Mooseport, right? Former president. And he plays the secretary of defense in No Way Out. He's also the president of Absol in No Way Out. Yes.

He's also the president in Absolute Power. Also not the best guy. Right. Again, that was sort of where I was like, I'm not going to really go that way. There's a lot of murderous Gene Hackman. He has a president in Absolute Power. You know, somebody who I was hoping you might pick

was Fletcher Cole from Pelican Brief. I thought about it. Yeah, yeah it yeah yeah i don't know if he has an official is he just like the right-hand man or is he well so i didn't know he was chief of staff and it does feel a little sacrilegious not to have tony goldwyn you know as is one of our great sure um tv presidents actually not great at all i mean that shit is like a real mess that's toxic masculinity it really is did you but then but then he's in a bunch of other like a real mess. That's toxic masculinity. It really is. Thanks for weighing in. But then he's in a bunch of other things.

You could also do like Robert Culp is the actual president in Pelican Brief and just like plays with a dog and looks pretty funny. I mean, you've got the double whammy of Michael Keaton in First Daughter and Mark Harmon in Chasing Liberty, which I had. I finally watched First Daughter for the first time I didn't watch it before our Keaton Rushmore and I caught up with it

because it felt like double duty for this episode I was pulling my hair out listening to the Keaton Rushmore not for the Keaton part for the discussion of Mount Rushmore part you guys were making

some mistakes that's weird because the Reddit was chill about it they all liked everything we said guys the Adams presidency John Adams is one of

our great statesmen his presidency was a disaster you guys were too nice to him so then it's gone dangerously dad has logged on They all liked everything we said. Guys, the Adams presidency. John Adams is one of our great statesmen. His presidency was a disaster. You guys were too nice to him. So then it's gone dangerously. Dad has logged on. Hello, Dad. He is a bad president in First Daughter, and I'd say an even worse father. Yeah.

I mean, Mark Harmon isn't doing much better. He loses his daughter, and then she gets to go to the parade in Berlin. Anyway, this one's for Bobby. I didn't realize that the impact that George Clooney had in the Spy Kids universe. Oh, yeah. But apparently he becomes president in Spy Kids 3D. So that's really powerful. Can I throw in some laurels to Donald Moffat in Clear and Present Danger?

Yeah. That's a great scene. Don't bark at me like some junkyard dog. I'm president of the United States. Do you prefer Aaron Eckhart as President Asher in Olympus Has Fallen or Jamie Foxx as President Sawyer in White House Down?

I prefer White House Down. I do as well. Yeah, that movie's fun. Before we clarified the roles and I realized this was not kosher, I was considering drafting Lee Daniels the butler in biopic and hoping that meant I got all the presidents. Okay, that's good.

I thought I could win quantity over quality. That's a pretty good closeout. Yeah. The other one I was considering was Elizabeth Mitchell in The Purge election year. Who is elected president at the very end. And I want a president who can survive the purge long enough to get elected and shut the purge down maybe get rid of the purge yeah uh i thought about tim robbins and austin power spy who shagged me and one of your favorite performances iconic one

scene performance uh david has a trading card of tim robbins as the president and spy who shagged me on his desk in our office sir are you suggesting we blow up the moon? And his response is, would you miss it? It's really funny. Nobody mentioned Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter, I guess because that movie's bad. Yeah, I watched it last night and it eats farts. It's so bad. I do. I like Benjamin Walker, though. We discussed this

last week. I like him, too. He's charming. And then Edward Herman and Annie as FDR is still kind of the definitive FDR on screen. Like Bill Murray did not displace. I did have Hyde Park on Hudson on my long list. No one has yet mentioned the work of Gemma Redgrave, who is

the niece of Vanessa Redgrave. Sure, in The Beekeeper. As President Jessica Danforth, aka Trump Hillary. I thought about it, but this was also, drafting her or drafting Billy Bob Thornton as the president in Love Actually.

I couldn't stand behind the actions. You know? I have to admit something. I feel deep shame for not picking President Danforth. What was her plan?

It was to use her son's cyber scam to fund her election campaign? He was propping up her re-election campaign with his scamming.

That movie is sick. I gotta watch scamming. That movie is sick. I've got to watch that movie. That movie is so honest about America, I can't believe it. It's the only movie that tells you the truth. Should we recap our picks? Yeah, let's recap very quickly. All right, I had the first pick,

so I will recap first. In drama, I had Thomas J. Whitmore, portrayed by Bill Pullman in Independence Day in comedy I had President Dale portrayed by Jack Nicholson in Mars Attacks in biopic I had John F Kennedy as portrayed by Bruce Greenwood in 13 Days in Oscar nominee I had Daniel Day Lewis portraying Abraham Lincoln in Lincoln for VP and cabinet I had William Russell as portrayed by Henry Fonda in The Best Man and in wild Wild Card, William Hurt, who played Thaddeus Ross, the Secretary of State in Captain America Civil War, and will soon be portrayed by Harrison Ford and also as the Red Hulk in Captain America Brave New World.

Brave New World. Did they clear that with the Huxley estate? I don't know. Okay. They didn't. I think that might have moved into public domain, though. It's been a while. I see. Yeah. The. They didn't. I think that might have moved into public domain, though. It's been a while. I see.

Yeah. The second pick was Griffin. What did you get? In drama, I picked Henry Fonda as President of the United States in Failsafe. In comedy,

I picked an actor whose name I forgot to look up as Lincoln in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. His name, of course, is... What's his name?

He won the Oscar for it. I'm already forgetting his name. Daniel Day-Lewis. Robert V. Barron. Robert V. Barron. In biopic, I picked Phil Baker-Hall as President Nixon's secret honor. I picked Jack Warden as President Bobby

in Being There for Oscar nominee. Of course, John Voight as sec-deaf John Keller in the 2007 film Transformers for VP and Cabinet. And a wild card, I picked Bruce Greenwood as the president in National Treasure Book of Secrets. A great man. And a great president. In drama, I took President Jackson Evans,

a.k.a. Jeff Bridges, in The Contender. In comedy, Andrew Shepard, as played by Michael Douglas, in The American President. In biopic, I took Gary Oldman as Harry Truman in Oppenheimer, which is a biopic of a different person, but we decided counts. In Oscar nominee, Kevin Kline as acting President Dave, in Dave. In VP and cabinet, Secretary Cleary, aka Christopher Walken, in the 2005 film Wedding Crashers.

That was a wild one. And Meryl Streep as the hope of women everywhere in Don't Look Up. Chris Ryan? In drama, I took the unnamed president in Armageddon.

In comedy, I took President Camacho from Idiocracy. In biopic, I took Sam Rockwell as George W. Bush in the biopic about Dick Cheney called Vice. And that was the third time you voted for Bush, right? In Oscar nominee, I picked Peter Sellers playing the president in Dr. Strangelove. In VP and cabinet, I snaked Charlotte Field, both the secretary of state and then the president in Dr. Strangelove. In VP and cabinet, I snaked Charlotte Field,

both the secretary of state and then the president. Speaking of snakes. In Longshot and in Wildcard, I picked Jonathan Price slash Zartan as the president in G.I. Joe Retaliation and G.I. Joe Rise of Cobra. Hail Cobra. Is that what they say?

Probably. In drama, I took James Marshall in Air Force One played by Harrison Ford. In comedy, I took Richard Nixon played by Dan Hedaya in Dick. Hedaya? Hedaya?

I always thought it was Hedaya. Hedaya. In biopic, I took Richard Nixon played by Anthony Hopkins in Nixon. I should have found a third movie called Richard. In Oscar nominee, I took John Travolta in primary colors as Bill Clinton, whatever he's called. Jack Stanton.

There you go. Richard V. Barron. In VP and cabinet, I took Mitch Gilliam as played by the great Bernie Mac, the late great Bernie Mac in Head of State. And in wildcard, I took Donald Pleasance in Escape from New York. Wow. I think we all did very well. David, you mentioned- I'm sure the country's doing well right now.

Yeah, I was going to say, I hope you guys are having a great day. You think people should vote? Would you encourage them to vote? You guys made it this far and you haven't voted yet? I mean, I hope that just means you're still in line. So stay in line! Don't go to the polls. I thought you meant...

Sure. You wanted people to vote in the poll for who won this pod. But even if this pod, listening to this pod, encourages one person to get off the couch and vote who wasn't going to do it otherwise then we've all done our job here today thank you so much to griffin newman and david sims the wonderful host of the blank check podcast among many other things griffin is

an actor david is an incredible movie critic just what other stuff a father griffin what's for you you're also a friend I'd say yeah great friend to all yeah especially my friends yeah and we you've all been you've all been on the show on blank check so everyone come listen

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