The Big Picture - The Tom Cruise Movie Draft

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

Sean and Amanda are joined by Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, and Chris Ryan for a very special episode where they draft the best movies of Tom Cruise’s legendary career. They talk about their relationship to Cruise, introduce some new draft categories, and have a whole lot of fun. Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guests: Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, Chris Ryan, and Bobby Wagner Producer: Jack Sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Instacart. Groceries that over-deliver. Why do Fintechs like Float choose Visa? As a more trusted, more secure payments network, Visa provides scale, expertise and innovative payment solutions. Learn more at visa. I'm Amanda Dobbins. And this is the big picture conversation show about Tom Cruise. We have a very special episode today. Not only is CR Chris Ryan here to draft, but returning to the show to draft Van Lathan and Bill Simmons.

You're already on your phone. The last time this quintet was together, we drafted Denzel Washington movies. Bill actually looked at his iPad for roughly 88% of the pod. I got competitive. I'm not going to get competitive this time. Bill stroked out and also went into the red zone. But Bill performed very well in that draft. You won that draft, according to the people out there on X.com. Van, you came in what place?

Can't remember. Okay. I don't have any thoughts of winning. I don't want to win. Okay. I want to draft the coolest group of Tom Cruise movies by the Van standard. Yeah. This is the Shea Serrano school.

You can't lose if you're true to yourself. That is... Shea has inspired me. That's what I'm doing with this draft. Okay. Well, there was much talk right before we began recording of no prep. Zero. Now I have tried to build in a system that would demand some prep. This is a very different draft than we usually do. Usually it's five categories, three people, maybe four people. There's usually a lot of meat on the bone when we get to the end of a draft.

In this case, eight categories. Tom Cruise has only made 46 films in his career. I think all of his movies will be drafted? Not quite all of them, but close to by the end of this draft. So having said that, Bill Van, Chris, you were bragging about no prep, you're sure. I did not brag about that.

I have plenty of prep. What are you talking about? His laptop's open. You said you could do it blind. I said I could do it blind, but I'm not. Oh, and CR canceled one of his eight other podcasts that he goes on to prep. Sorry, off the peck of bread, Barrett. Big hit last night.

Were you double booked for anything today? Did you have to move anything around? Yeah, we were going to talk divas, you know? We were going to be like, what do you guys think? You know, we'll play first base. I mean, what do you want to move anything around? Yeah, we were going to talk divas, you know? We were going to be like, what do you guys think? You know? We'll play first base. I mean, what do you want to say about Tom Cruise? I usually be open with some deep personal thoughts.

Amanda, he's very important to you as a movie star. He's important to all of us. I would say he unites the five people around this table. You guys have sort of a latent Tom Cruise versus Tom Hanks war going on. Yeah, but I love Tom Cruise. It's not fair. And Sean like Jedi mind tricked me to make that a war.

And I said, love both of them. One talk has it. Bill would be Jedi mind tricked when he watched Star Wars. Was it gonna come here or was it gonna be, this is gonna be a time for healing? I love Tom Cruise. We've done 17 Tom Cruise movies in the rewatchables,

which is four more than anyone else. And there's like seven left to do. Yeah. Like easily. And I haven't run out of things to say about him yet. Have you ever, what's the closest you ever got to having him on your pod? You know, by the time I had a podcast, he'd already gotten pretty weird. You know, it's, it's like pre oh five crews post oh five crews. And I just don't think he would do stuff like that anymore. Yeah. Right.

I was just wondering about that. Has he ever done a podcast? No, but I just was watching his, some of his con stuff and some of his like London media tour for mission impossible final reckoning. And, uh, I was like, he's got really good anecdotes. I wish he would just do one, but I understand what you're saying. It's probably- I think after the Lauer interview,

however many years ago that was. I think it's all like 20 years ago. Like the Oprah couch, and this couch does not look unlike the Oprah couch, is 20 years ago this month. I had the special order for this pod. Yeah, Chris, you ready? Yeah, so like 20 years ago.

You're talking about how much I love podcasts. It's, the podcasting is too freewheeling. It's like, it's long form. You're gonna get a lot of time. There's gonna be people asking, why don't you ask them about this? Why don't you ask them about that? I don't know if, like, he wants to get that deep

into the whole, the whole depth of Tom Cruise lore by doing the pod. Like so much stuff. Everyone says he's like so crazy intense. It would be really fun to interview him. Cause there's just like a charisma and magnetism to him. Yeah. Everyone agrees that it almost feels like you're with like

He's very like a Cough leader or something. Cough leader on eye contact. Yeah. I feel like you're the only person in the world. Right. Is what everybody says. And also, like you said Chris,

like he does have great stories. The problem is because all of his press has been so tightly managed and contained over the last 20 years, I have now heard all of those stories 14 times. Amanda and I were in Vegas last month for CinemaCon and he gave an extended, almost 20 minute presentation tribute to Christopher McCrory,

the Mission Impossible director, and he dropped like three or four anecdotes I just heard multiple times before. So he's kind of just relying on the same material, I think, to kind of stay boring on purpose so that nobody gets him in that town hall scenario that you're describing. You know what he is to me? Fanta's the absent strategy. I give it to you all, but you can't. He stays unboring, on purpose.

He's movie guy to me. Let me tell you what I mean. Like when I think of the NBA, I think of Michael Jordan, like right away. When I think of tennis, I know I think of Pete Sampras just cause that was my tennis guy when I was like watching a lot of tennis. When I think of movies, I think of Tom Cruise. He's got this ridiculously wide appeal in terms of how the films that he's been in.

He's never quite been appreciated as the actor's actor, but I think the longer his career stretches out we're starting to get an understanding of how hard it is to be in as many different genres of movies as he is and to be that excellent. So he is movie star. When I think movie star, I think Tom Cruise. For a second it was Tom Hanks, but he's outlasted Tom Hanks as far as his marketability and his relatability to people and his relevance to people. He's outlasted Tom Hanks.

Well, you don't know if Tom Hanks had made seven castaways, we might be stuck on that. But that might be part of the calculus as to why Tom Cruise did. I don't know if Tom Hanks would want to make seven of any movie that he's in, but Tom Cruise wanted it. He wanted to be the biggest movie star for the longest amount of time. Yeah, but he only outlasted him

because he just decided to make action movies for 20 years in a row. It's not like he's taken a chance since when when was his last chance Tropic Thunder? I think you could argue lions for lambs is kind of a chance that is like it was an actual drama He was playing a politician. It was kind of an unusual part for him It just happened to be an absolute dog, baby of a movie. Yeah, nobody remembers it or thinks about it Terrible, terrible. Well, we talked about he never had the verdict.

He just for whatever reason, he never wanted to age with movies. He wants to pretend he's still Tom Cruise from 20 years ago. This is a really good time to be doing this drafting conversation because I think at least by the way it's being communicated to us, the final reckoning, the Mission Impossible movie coming out next week is, I don't know if it's going to be the last Mission Impossible movie, probably not, but they're demarcating it as like the end of something. And the next movie he's making is with Ina Ritu. And he has not worked with a director like that in a long ass time. I mean, we're talking 20 years. I mean, he has not worked with a, you

know, aggressive auteur and international filmmaker. Like that's just not what he does. He has his guys, he has his Macquarie's and his Kazinski's. He brings in like Brad Bird occasionally, JJ Abrams, but like really polished Hollywood filmmakers. So maybe he's about to go on that period where he takes more chances. I don't know. It's like, I loved when Leo was in the bear. Can I be in a bear? Can I just make the revenue again? Stay in the bear. Can I just make the revenue again? Can I just stay in the bear? Maybe he should be the bear. Yeah.

Yeah. I, you know, to the advanced point about him being like movies person and in our lifetimes, I also think he's kind of like the definitional movie star of each decade that he's participated in in different ways. So like the eighties, obviously this like absolutely stunning, charismatic young movie star that brings the kind of Bruckheimer Simpson gloss to life with his smile. The nineties, like the anchor to those really well crafted genre movies that I think we kind of like refer to over and over again, perhaps out of generational laziness, but certainly that's where our tastes lie.

2000s, high concept, big blockbusters, that's where the Mission Impossible ball starts rolling downhill. And now in this era, kind of the figurehead for the we have to save the theatrical experience, movies really matter, movies are like an important American export, et cetera, et cetera, that he's really hammers more than the importance

of Mission Impossible as a story, or Ethan Hunt as a character. It's really like the movie serves the movies rather than like a story. I think he's been a fascinating figure in that way. He also kind of, in there, was also the mascot for the death of the movie star, when he started to have- That's Will Smith.

No. Yeah. I really don't, I think that Tom was so well regarded and he was so beloved that when the entire mid 2000s stuff started to happen and he couldn't really find his footing, he was making movies that people would have liked in eras gone by, but they weren't going out to see him now. That it was kind of like, we don't need Tom Cruise's anymore.

We have all this IP stuff. We can stick a Chris in there and get the same type of feeling and we don't need that one guy. And then- Chris Ryan. Chris Ryan. And then- That's the Ringer podcast network philosophy student person there

Tom Cruise outlasted that mm-hmm He outlasted that and he brought it he reoriented things back around himself He and he really courted this idea of I am the last movie star I'm the only person who can save movies as a way both to come back from Like kind of ten years of in the wilderness. I don't know how many movies from 2005 to 2015 will get drafted. I mean, they have to because we have to, yeah, because we have to draft so many of them. But he he did manage to kind of to glom on to the concept of movies. And if you go to the see movies, you go see Tom Cruise.

And so, I mean, you know, there was like a national research group study recently where it's like, who are the movie stars? Tom Cruise is the first name on all of them. When I interviewed a bunch of like Gen Z kids for this podcast, Tom Cruise was their movie star. He, like, he saved the movies, though maybe only for himself. He's like the last one left. Yeah, I think he's made efforts to be like, I'm at scene Tenet today, guys. You should come see Tenet,

despite the fact that there's a pandemic. He just had a photo op for Sinners. He is making an effort to kind of point out that going to the movies matters. Seem authentic to you, though? I think he authentically loves movies, whether or not he like actually understands the subtext and themes of sinners is not clear and he'll never speak on it. Also, like, does he actually go to theaters? He says he does. That's the podcast I want to hear Tom Cruise on sinners.

Breaking down the blues in 1930s. I mean, obviously it benefits him to support sinners. Then she spits in his mouth and that's just what's, what's going on there? Yeah. Um, I think it's probably important to circle that 2005 demarcation point in time too, because you know, like that's not just when like IP comes in and it's not just, it's when he is sort of like hitting the stage of your career where. If you don't have a life raft to cling to, you would become Tom Hanks, where you would only become interested in doing character parts or parts about older guys.

And he has this obsession with the retention of youth. It's like a little creepy. Well, think about 05-2, people coming for his title too. Damon's already making the Borns, Leo's really coming. He's doing the Cruise Playbook and working with great directors. Denzel's still there.

And it's a little like LeBron and the NBA when all the young guns are coming, trying to stay relevant, be in there. But you know, like Father Time is coming. But like LeBron, science has allowed him to like stay young. Well, and you know, all the ladies, the guy's just an incredible bachelor. Tom Cruise? Yeah. Yeah. Sure. The energy you get from playing in incredible bachelor. Tom Cruise? Yeah. Yeah.

Sure. The energy you get from playing in the field like he has. Sure. Yeah. Ananda Armas, Penelope Cruz, Nicole Kidman in her prime. It's just an incredible, nobody has a better list than Cruz. Yeah. Absolutely.

2005 as well. Yeah, absolutely. 2005 as well. What's with the asshole? In 05 he makes the second movie of Spielberg. Vinnie Rogers? And then things go sideways and he and Spielberg don't talk for 15 to almost 20 years. And they go sideways off of the couch stuff, right? It was off of the Scientology stuff. Yeah, but that's all because of Scientology.

He makes a number of, well, not because of. But Spielberg literally does credit him with saving theatrical with Top Gun Maverick. Like in that particular case, it's kind of true. I mean, that is the movie that brought back movies for so many people. That was, you went into the movie and you saw that movie, movie theaters. Sierra and I did a rewatchables in my guest house, like 15 feet apart. Yeah, gave each other COVID for the fifth time.

We stayed just far enough apart to rave about Maverick for two hours. It was great. So yeah, I mean, I think even though it does benefit him, I think he actually is really the avatar for this thing that we're always talking about. He does want you to show up on Friday night. I think hely cares.

Yeah. I mean, it certainly benefits him, but I think he looks at himself as the last gunslinger in the West. Uh, like I think he deeply, deeply cares because in order to do the types of things that he does and involve himself in the type of spectacle that he's willing to involve himself in, you just have to have an incredibly inflated sense of self-purpose. You just, you do.

Yeah. You're like, and so I think he deeply cares. He believes it. Obviously it's what he's kind of built his life around. I think Tom Cruise thinks that there's something special about the movies and he doesn't want to have his life. And while the movies have, while their lives have ended, like he, he cares very deeply.

I think. Well, think about this. How many superstar actors have we had who would be totally happy if they died doing a stunt during the movie and that's how they went out. He's the only one. Yep. Nobody else would be like, Hey, could you, you might die during this. Like that's fine.

If, if that's what was meant to happen, then that's what meant. Like if we find out Tom Cruise, God forbid, died doing a movie, it would not be surprising. No, there, there's like, nobody would be like, Oh my God, I can't believe that happened. We'd be like, yeah, we've been wondering if this is going to happen for 20 years. We've been preparing ourselves for like the last five years. There's nobody else like that. But it seems like the way that he wants to go out.

I mean, he seems way more interested in leaping off of buildings than making his verdict. And the contrast to this would be like Keanu Reeves, who's just like, my body is broken down. I made too many of these movies. I cannot play John Wick. And then they're like, we'll put another zero on it. And he's like, fucking fine. Like I'll just, give me some more Torridol.

Yeah. I want to save all of my final reckoning thoughts for next week when the movie comes out. But I will say that there is a stunt in this movie that I actually don't know how he didn't die. I don't understand it. I don't know how they did it. And it's one of the most dangerous looking things

I've ever seen, fair to say. I mean, it's astonishing. And you And it's one of the most dangerous looking things I've ever seen. Fair to say. I mean, it's astonishing and you know, it's coming and you're still like, what are you doing? Like it's the only reaction. And he's in his sixties. It's, it's crazy. So I think you're right, Bill. I think he would probably be content going out as the entertainer's entertainer.

That's the thing he's most interested in right now is did I, did I give you your money's worth? I think a lot of people would be like, this is really fucked up. I don't think people would be like, this is really fucked up. I don't think people would be like, let's go see it. And look, he's not like, he doesn't do podcasts. He's not fucking around on social media. He doesn't see, he's not TikToking it up.

Like when you talk about Will Smith, Will Smith had a run as the world's biggest movie star and he's very adaptive. If there's something new out there to reach people and whatever, Will's gonna try it. Will's gonna make sure that he seems like the cool uncle. Like, Tom wants to be the Obi-Wan Kenobi of the movie industry. He wants to show people the way things were in the past and like initiate everyone into why this old religion still matters. Like, he doesn't care about anything else and there's a purity to that that like has outlasted the fact that the fucking guy was really

Off-putting in a real way for a long time and we've you come back to him. He's the man again I don't think he does what else to do. I think that's part of it. Yeah. Yeah I think that's definitely the inner Ritsu thing is gonna be so fascinating because that on in and of itself it'll be a litmus test of like I think that's definitely the inner Ritsu thing is going to be so fascinating because that on an in and of itself. It'll be a litmus test of like. Would Tom Cruise outside of Mission Impossible outside of Maverick or Top Gun? Can he sell a movie? What kind of movie is this going to be? And does it require Tom Cruise to actually speak about the themes and ideas and the story and the direction stuff in a way outside of, I jumped off of this and hung onto that.

Movies, that's like basically how they sell these Mission Impossibles. So if you're, I'll be very curious to see if he opens up or if he's like, there's a pathway back to him talking. He's also like kind of a man out of time. Like there is no reference points on Tom Cruise's persona or body, like there's never like, he is not writing an op-ed about Biden. Like he is not, like, wearing-

It'd be amazing. It's hard for me to imagine him using a cell phone. Yeah. And like, I know he has one, but like, does he have, does he have a smartphone? You know, like he's, like he's not Will Smith on Instagram or TikTok or whatever. Like he's, does he know what that is? What kind of car does he actually drive? You know? No, that's not how Smith on Instagram or TikTok or whatever. Like, does he know what that is? Like, what kind of car does he actually drive? You know?

No, that's not how that's happening. Oh, OK. Yeah. It's happening other ways. He drove an Aston Martin. I mean, he's on a motorcycle. Hell, that's crazy. You know, like he flies helicopters, you know, like his, he is a man of action.

He's not a man of looking at screens, you know, and that's just how he's defined himself in both movies. And I think in real life, like even the strange stories you hear kind of out of the sidelines of some of the Scientology stuff is always like, he forced a man to live in a garage to build him a motorcycle. You know, it's like, it's all kind of related to this bigger idea of like, I'm going to go on a mission and I'm going to entertain you with my mission. He's just singularly focused.

I don't feel like he's the last movie star though. Cause I think Leo is definitely every time he makes a movie, people care about it. They know it's happening and if it's good, they'll go see it. And I think Chalamet is getting. Oh, look, he's coming back to Chalamet. All right. We won't work through it. Even if even if I want to throw a soda in his face, I'll go to another South American.

Yeah, I think he's I think it's hit the point now, or if he's making a movie, people will notice that he made a movie and they'll probably go see it if it's okay or good. We forget how present Tom Cruise was in the public in the 90s. What Chalamet is doing right now, courtside with two Kardashians. Jenner's, but yeah. Jenner, excuse me. Thank you for clearing that up. Kendall was there too? I know you're an expert on the issue. Yes, both of you. Oh, wow. Okay.

We're going to go run. No bad history there. And he was not that audacious and tabloid, but you know, he did fall in love with and marry Nicole Kidman on a film and was a huge tabloid figure in that very traditional way that movie stars kind of have to be to go to that final level of you are one of the ten most famous people in the world and he obviously is trying to navigate what it means to be the most famous person in the world without giving anything of yourself ever again. I don't know if that's ever been sustained where he kind of just like

turned the machine off 19 years ago and was like you'll never hear anything about me as long As I live but I insist on being in front of you forever more But he was very deliberate about it sued the tabloids Kind of ended a wave of just being able to say whatever you want about someone in that way Mm-hmm, which kind of then inspired some new media in terms of the way celebrities are covered and like The TMZ of it all and all of that kind of stuff.

And so look, I don't think, I think Leo is obviously a gigantic movie star. He's a, but I don't think Leo makes event movies in the same way that Tom Cruise makes them. I think Leo is the actor's movie star and Tom Cruise is the movie star's movie star. And so I think that's kind of what what separates like those two. There's one other thing though. Tom Cruise is unintentionally funny in many of his movies and that's one of the many reasons we love him. He is a character within him playing Tom Cruise in whatever.

He's still the incredible character. There's the Tom Cruise character and then there's the character. Yeah. And like some of my favorite movies that he's done, it's just a one of a kind, only Cruise could be in this movie. Like when we did A Few Good Men for rewatchables, it was like, he's just fucking hilarious in that movie over and over again. There's nobody else who could have been as good in that movie as him. And he's a good actor, but it's also kind of enjoyable and kind of funny.

Yeah. And if he's in a bad movie, his weirdness elevates the badness in a good actor, but it's also kind of enjoyable and kind of funny. Yeah, and if he's in a bad movie, his weirdness elevates the badness in a good way. And if he's in a good movie, he can lock in and be the best part of a good movie, which is a very powerful skill. There's something in A Few Good Men, though, to where he's acting, Tom Cruise acting with a capital A, but then Jack Nicholson is acting,

and you're like, all right, well, my boy's got some limitations. No, but you know, my take on the scene is always that Cruz wins that scene. Really? Always. I completely disagree. The last scene? Yeah.

That you can't handle the truth? I think Nicholson, oh, these guys look! You talk to the law books! When it went bad! That's the best part of the movie to me when he says and that and the cameras slowly he's moving to anyway yeah, I I Do think that he is not Daniel Day Lewis and he is not Marlon Brando and no one never really thought that he was and it's Proven by the fact that he's only got three Oscar nominations for acting and he really never had a chance to win any of them Even though he got hosed in Jerry Maguire. For sure.

It's just Jeffrey Rush. I think he also he he let that boat sail 20 years ago, though. Like, I mean, it's so interesting the last five years, his emergence out of the pandemic as like the sort of foundational piece of the theatrical experience. Whereas like, you know, 10, 12 years ago, he was making like Reacher movies and kind of like off brand sci fi, the mummy, and trying to get franchises launched and watching them kind of explode on takeoff. And there are a couple of exceptions where I think people forget that, you know, he did make American Made. You might not like American Made.

I like that movie. But that's a very different kind of a movie from what we're describing. He did make Lions for Lambs. Like it's not that he didn't make any movies. Those were both real movies. They're both docudrama or one's a docudrama, one's, you know, like a American political thriller.

Like those weren't, they weren't just the mummy. The mummy was to me a low. That's like the absolute basement of him being like, I need another Mission Impossible. And if I don't build one, I'm going to run out of room to survive in Hollywood. And it went so sideways that like we've kind of memory hold that movie. But that's the bummer is that he never just zagged.

All the other great actors zagged. And even if the zag didn't work, they still tried it. And he was just like, I can do this. I think he's going to zag now. I hope he does. He's 63. They will. I mean, sometimes it happens later for some, they will give him one.

He will get a juicy roll and everybody will be like, now when he gets his little statue or... Because I do think that's what's happened is because Tom Cruz hasn't sought to be appreciated as a great actor or as a transcendent actor, I think we're a little bit too hard on him. He's a much better actor than I think he's given credit for. I think. I think he's an amazing actor and I think that to the Zach point, he kind of already did it. I mean, he goes Eyes Wide Shut, Magnolia, Vanilla Sky. Can you, those are three of the most audacious studio movies ever made. So, you know, at a certain point it was sort of like, he felt like he did his thing in that respect.

And then it was just like, I need safe harbor. I was going to wear the crew suit today because I kind of have his hair in the movie. Oh yeah, do the open shirt. Yeah, but I decided not to. Hey homies, is that my briefcase? Did you consider going shirtless for this episode the way the crews often go shirtless in films? In honor of Last Samurai. No, I did not.

Okay. Yeah. I didn't either. Do you want to draft? What do you want to do? I've never seen Last Samurai. Interesting. Okay. Yeah.

That's off the board for you. There's two cruise movies I've never seen. Samurai and Mummy. Okay. That's off the board for you. There's two cruise movies I've never seen. Samurai and Mummy. Okay. Okay. Just like, I was just out. You want to stop and watch the Mummy? I've heard Samurai wasn't bad though.

It's okay. It's not one of my favorites. It's like watchable, right? Comparatively, yeah, it's fine. It's cool. Yeah. It's like got totally, it's got good action scenes and... Goes there for one summer and becomes the greatest samurai in the whole city.

Sure. Yeah. I mean... Questionable. The framing of the story is a little questionable. It's not like I'm a discerning movie watcher. I watched Masquerade with Rob Lowe and Kim Cattrall last night on Tubi. It's not like- You're on Tubi. You were scouting? I'm on Tubi.

You were scouting Masquerade? My wife loves Masquerade. Yeah. Carrie rules. Carrie's the best. Written by Dick Wolf. I know. The faraway look in his eyes, though,

where he's like, I can't believe I have to prepare a Masquerade rewatch. No, it's not a rewatch. Because it's not crazy 80s yet. No. Okay, we should draft, because we have a lot of drafting to do. Okay.

Before we do that, I just wanted to say, he has 21 films that have made at least $100 million. I would venture to guess that's the most of anyone will ever do a draft for. So the blockbuster threshold is what? 100 million. Okay. So there are 21 movies that are eligible in that category. Shall I go through the rest of the categories before we set the draft order? Absolutely. Okay, there's eight of them. Like I said, 80s, any film released in the 1980s, 90s, any film released in the 1990s, 21st century. So any movie released in this century is eligible. Oscar nominee.

The point of this is not Tom Cruise's nominations, but any film he's been a part of that has received at least one Oscar nomination, Mission Impossible. You must draft one of the seven eligible Mission Impossible films. Interesting. We're not making finalckoning eligible here today. And then here are the last three categories. Tom Cruise does a sports thing. Tom Cruise famed for his athletic or not so athletic pursuits in his movies.

There are many such examples of him doing something. So just a point of order here. Yes. It's him doing a sports thing in a movie, not a sports thing, not a sports movie, not a sports movie, though he is doing sports things in sports. But this could be, and we'll go through the myriad examples. I'm sure it's Bill who has made this clear to me in 1999 reading his column. And I was like, boy, Tom Cruise sure does love to do X, Y, or Z.

Like you were always pointing out like when he's- It's him and Brandon Walsh too, the great athletes. Yeah, yeah. Of course. And then Blockbuster, of course, $100 million threshold and Wildcard. Wildcard will be interesting because you'll probably be pulling from the drags. We'll be getting down to the bottom tier of Cruise movies. Is Jerry Maguire a sports thing or not a sports thing?

I debate it. He doesn't do a sports thing in the movie. Here's a question. He runs. Is running really fast? That's what I'm saying. Well, if running's in there, then we can pick him up. I debate a lot. He doesn't do a sports thing in the movie. Here's a question. He runs. Is running really fast? That's what I'm saying. Well, if running's in there, then we can pick him up.

If running's in there, everything's fine. I think we should ask this out. Is running eligible? Well, is running more athletic than billiards? That's not the question. Okay. Like, it's not about what's more athletic. Is it a sports thing?

Is pool a sport? Yes. Billiards is a sport. It's a sport. More like sports thing? Is pool a sport? Yes. Billiards is a sport. It's a sport. More like a game. Is dance a sport? Okay. Dance is a sport. It's athletic. By the way, does Tom Cruise have to do the thing or just his character have to do the thing in the movie?

Meaning is there a stunt double? Meaning... No, is there sports happening in the movie? No, no, no. There's one movie where he does a thing and I know it's not him who did it, but his character's doing a sports thing. His character, I would say. Roger. No, no, no. There's one movie where he does a thing and I know it's not him who did it, but his character's doing a sports. His character, I would say. No, it should be him. It should be him.

Well, so it has to be, okay, so we gotta let this, there's one movie I'm thinking about where he does a thing. Yeah, yeah. I know what you're thinking of. I know he didn't do the thing. It's really- I want that one to be eligible though. It's one of the fucking craziest things.

The stand-in? I know what you're talking about. The sidewalk? Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. I think that should be eligible. Even though you're right he didn't do that. He didn't do it and it's just a funny thing to have that character do in that movie. I'm like what the fuck. But it's yeah, okay, now I know too. Ironically, Jerry Maguire is not eligible for that category. So we're not drafting girlfriends as the ninth category. Where do we lay them category. No, but if you'd like to continue naming them, feel free. Yeah. Girlfriends would be fine. I'd probably lock down Katie Holmes early. I thought she was great. I think that's more or less what happened. That was an unbelievable pull by Cruz. Smoking hot at the time. She

still looks great. You know she's like a fashion icon now? She's been the best for almost 30 years. Okay, so this is going to be, this is super Saji. But... Saji? As in... Massage initiative? Saji? We call it Saji on the Midnight Boys, we're getting a little Saji.

So, it is Saji. It's not the Midnight Girls, you know? It's true. So, of all of them, you're doing young Katie Holmes now. We're talking Mimi Rogers in the 80s, which I had to put some of the kids around. He might be a great category. I'm talking like Anna DeArm, Penelope Cruz.

It's Penelope Cruz for me. Come on. Also, I need her. Shout out to Katie Holmes. I need her to outlive him because that's the book I have. What about fake I got photographed in the back of a car with somebody but the relationship never bloss outlive him because that's the book. What about fake? I got photographed in the back of a car with somebody, but the relationship never blossomed. Well, that's anadarmist.

Kidman in 1990 was lights out. Kidman in 1990 was lights out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Nuts. Cruises, I'm telling you. Penelope Cruises. Unbelievable arsenal. She's not really my type, Kidman in the 90s.

Not your type. Yeah. In that she's... She's nervy, but now blonde. Yeah. And something about her Australian accent is just unapproachable to me. It's a height. Raddison Daniels. We ready?

We're ready. We need to set the draft order. Bobby Wagner, help us set it. I'm sure I'll get screwed again. Never been a more appropriate time for the Top Gun. Yeah. Let's go. Alright.

Let's go. TC. My beloved. Everybody has three tiles in here for their names. So going first is Sean. Please don't kill me. Okay. Of course.

You know, I don't. It just never fails. I don't know. I don't even know what the choice is. I don't know if. One is not a good spot. I don't know if you want number one here. Do you want number one?

You could trade, right? I just think it's funny. Amanda going second. Wow. Okay, now this is a little suspect. This is what we could have. Yeah. Can't believe it. I believe Thomas Lyon.

I believe Thomas Lyon. Before we recorded, no matter what happens, Bill will say I rigged this. Oh, the two hosts of the show getting the first two pairs. What's weird about that? Is there an overall consensus number one? It's worth discussing. It's more category stuff, I think. Yeah.

It's Snape. All right. Van going more category stuff. Yeah. It's Snape. Van going third. Yeah. Okay. You should have locked me down for fifth when we started. I'm sorry. If I was going to rig it, why would I rig it for Sean every time? Chris going fourth.

Wow. You're on the turn. You're on the turn. Stop trying to convince him he's last. But don't you think it's good to have two shots at it? Because now I'm kind of screwed here. You're on the turn. That's special. Stop trying to convince him. He's last. But don't you think it's good to have two shots at it? Because now I'm kind of screwed here. I'm getting one pick and then I got to wait 10 picks.

I'm only going to take the movies that I really have to have, so I'm glad I'm third. Okay. I genuinely did not plan for this and have no idea what I'm doing. There is not a right answer. I don't think there is a consensus. So I think you should just... I still am like really nervous because whatever you're going to do is going to make me mad, and have no idea what I'm doing. There is not a right answer. I don't think there is a consensus. So I think you should just. I still am like really nervous

because whatever you're gonna do is gonna make me mad. If you mention Lions for Lambs one more time, you have to pick it. Maybe I will. Have you seen it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, more of a Valkyrie guy.

Oh, shit. I forgot about that one. Boy, I love that joke right there. I have patch crews. I just let you let it dangle for you. Because he just believed what those guys were up to was right. But they were wearing that patch on their uniform and you thought that that was important. You guys seen Valkyrie?

Yeah. I actually have. I enjoyed it. I've got a couple that, well, we'll see. I honestly have no idea what to do. I might wind up just being like I'm drafting this because I've seen that territory, but that's okay. I love how Sean probably watched all 46 cruise movies over the course of four days.

You know, I had no idea what to do with the first one. I had a whole plan to watch Endless Love, but then I had to watch a movie for the rewatchable this week so I couldn't watch it. You messed with my plan. Crazy movie. I forgot he was in that. You know, the category that I think is actually thinnest out of all of these. Wait, did you actually say what the categories are?

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Are you okay? I'm fine. I was just thinking, sure. Yeah. We did a whole thing about it. Go back to hating Australians.

I'm going to try and pick. This is not off the pike with Brian Barrett, Chris. This is the big picture. Uh, I think nineties is the weakest category. Yeah. And there are of course, I would say about five or six movies that are key, but all of those movies fit in other categories too. So I'm going to start with 90s.

Okay. Do it. And I'm going to take a few good men. Oh no! First. God damn it! Yeah. All right. Interesting. It does a variety of things, takes a variety of categories off the board.

Yeah. It's a movie that, it's a five-star classic for me. It's a legendary movie on this show, on the rewatchables. Cruz is- I really thought I was gonna get it. Phenomenal in this movie. You really should have taken it and does a sport for the softball practice.

That's what, I was gonna do it, it does a sport. In your first pick? Yeah. Oh wow. See, to me, that's a more fun category. You need to have a banger in the top three. That's my mentality at least right now. So yeah, a few good men.

What can you say? Rob Reiner, one of our great auteurs. At the tail end of a legendary run here. Great run. In the late 80s and early 90s. Six rewatchable movies so far for him. Is that what he has? Might not be a seven.

Stand by Reiner? Yeah. What are the others? Misery. Oh, when Harry Met Sally. Princess Bride Sally. He's cooking. Spinal tap. American President.

American President. My guys right here. Haven't done spinal tap or SureThing yet cause SureThing's not on any platform, which makes me mad. Have you guys done American President rewatchables? You did it with us. You did. Yeah.

Oh, that's bad. It's okay. It was during the COVID years. Oh, the COVID stuff. I don't remember it either. Yeah. It was during the COVID years. The COVID stuff. I don't remember it either. Okay. I've taken in 90s, a few good men. Amanda.

Well, now I'm incredibly stressed out. I guess what I need to do here, I was going to do a few good men and I thought as soon as you said 90s, you're going to go a different way and it was going to do a few good men and I thought as soon as you said 90s you were going to go a different way and it was going to work out for me. And I did have a plan which was to get a few good men as soon as possible. So now I am definitely filibustering. The two hosts of the show. You know what?

You know what? First two picks. First two picks of the draft. Okay. I was ready for the first pick but too when Sean screwed me over. You should have arranged with Bobby. Sean arranged with him and you forgot to. I know.

Okay. Let's see. Shades of, uh, do the Spurs really need Cooper flag if they already have Wemby going on here? You know? All right. So... I know what I think you're going to do. I don't, I, should I go with my heart. Should I go with my?

Legend uh, yeah, that's it. How'd you guys know? Can I tell you something I'll filibuster yeah do it Mia Sarah appears in a movie that's coming out speaking of legend still in love there and a legend in her time and Honestly, she's like a beautiful 60 year old woman. Just stunning. Yeah, I hadn't seen I haven in love there and a legend in her time and honestly She's like a beautiful 60 year old woman just stunning Yeah, I hadn't seen I haven't seen her in a movie in 30 years, but she's in a movie called the life of Chuck coming out in June I Bet you look great like a comet show it up beautiful and then what happened to me outrageous

So that's how they do things in that family But the Lord other movies was she in? She was in Ferris Bueller and in Legend and I can't even name another Mia Sarah movie. There's some people from the 80s that just came and went and you didn't understand it. Yeah. Phoebe Cates. All right. I'm going with my heart and I'm going with the map that I laid out yesterday, even though

I don't know if this makes categorical sense anymore. I'll just do it in Blockbuster Top Gun Maverick. Okay. Okay. Makes a lot of sense. It's, I mean. You would like that movie? I love that movie. It's very important in my household. I have seen it probably at this point

more than other movie on this list. Oh, Bobby's updating us. As Spielberg said, it saved movies. I think it is better than Top Gun. I mean, I have real affection for Top Gun, but you know, emotionally. Some hot bedroom scenes. We do often, so my three-year-old loves this, but he turns it off as soon as we get to the bed scene.

He's like, I'm done. I want more planes. It's my favorite. We've talked about this. My favorite of all the crew's romantic scenes. They're just laughing hysterically in bed for no reason. Something hilarious has just happened.

I don't know what could have happened. He's got no shirt on and they're both just laughing. Compared to the sex scenes in Top Gun, the first one, it's like, you get different species of human beings. Like Kelly McGillis is like eating his face in the first one and in this one he's like, I know me. The original one also like has some issues.

Sure. Okay. I don't know if I feel at peace, but that's my pick. It's a strong pick. Thank you. You're up, Ben. Cool movies. Movies that I think are cool. I'm wondering what do you guys think my first pick is going to be? Who can guess?

I already knew what it was. It didn't matter what who went who got what I knew that this movie would be available Then I would draft it first. Coolest he's ever been in the movie. To me. It's collateral. That's the movie Yeah, you fucking asshole. That's my first pick. 2000s that's that's in 2000s. I'm picking collateral. Collateral could have taken it in Oscar. Phenomenal. Could have taken it in Oscar but the coolest he's ever been in a movie to where I looked at him and I was like I'm picking Collateral. Collateral is phenomenal. Could've taken it in Oscar, but the coolest he's ever been in a movie to where I looked at him and I was like, this is a bad ass mother fucker.

So it's 21st century that pic. Well, yeah, 21st century. So I'm taking Collateral, yeah. Yo homie, is that my briefcase? Pop, pop, pop. Poor Jamie Foxx. Jamie Foxx nominated for best supporting actor in that movie, not Tom Cruise. Nominations that year for Jamie.

Make it make sense. Make it make sense. Some good Ruffalo. Peter Berg. Decent Peter Berg. Yeah. The best scene is the jazz club scene. Is the what?

The jazz club scene with that guy. The guy from the Ali movie. What's that guy's name? Oh, I forget. The asking about my status. You played Herbert Muhammad in the Ali movie. Yeah, he's a veteran character. I forget his name right now.

His face drops. Has Tom Cruise ever heard jazz music in his life? During that scene. That was dubbed in. That was ADR'd in F. Honestly, the idea of Tom Cruise listening to jazz is almost as difficult to imagine as him having sex with Jennifer Connelly. Like it is really, really hard to believe that he is a jazz aficionado. Best movie they had ever used the LA subway system?

I can't think of another movie. Is there a best movie? Oh, yeah. Oh, that's true. I feel like this is a more human depiction of the Los Angeles subway system. Yeah. The best, I think, evocation of what it's like

when you're walking around LA and a coyote shows up and you're like, what the fuck? We're in the middle of a thoroughfare. Why is there a coyote? That is a real thing that happens. Michael Mann, who's made all of these quintessential LA movies, just a super duper LA movie. Maybe the most LA movie.

Like- Not the most accurate depiction of how to get across town. Right. Probably not. Now you're just throwing raw meat to see our, it's a passion point of us. Drive on the 110 one. LA is like a character in the movie.

But it did give us that bit, you know? So that's important. Thousand Oaks to Santa Clarita. Five minutes. Okay, CR. You're up. Number four. Okay. Collateral off the table in 21st century.

21st century. I'm going to take the Furman Oscar. Got you. Okay. Thanks. 21st century. 21st century. I'm gonna take the Furman Oscar. Gotcha. That was at the top of my Oscar list too. Yeah.

So that was the category that Van was talking about, the flip, right? I was thinking about doing it in sports and then I just was like, I don't wanna get into a seven minute conversation about whether Tom Cruise knows gymnastics or not. So I think he has the build. I think it does. He started the run. And maybe did the first one before the cutaway.

Okay. Backhand spring for Cruise. I don't think so. Fantastic 90s legal thriller based on a John Grisham bestseller. Obviously incredible ensemble. And in some ways, Cruise is the least important character, like, least important performance in this film, because it's got Brimley, and it's got Hadman, and it's got Hunter, and it's got David's third.

Yeah, like, so. Do the heartbreak. Do it, do it. What did she find, bitch? Heartbreak. Uh. What was he saying? He was like, she looks at her red book.

He also talks about oral sex, which I don't do that part. You don't? No. Like when I do the bit. He's like all kinds of sexual activities. Oral and such. Yeah. But Cruz is fantastic.

He's in most of this, every scene of this film, and is a really, really like convincing 70s Redford kind of paranoid thriller performance. So I love it. It's I've probably watched. Normally after we do rewatchables on a movie, I don't watch it as much. And I still watch the firm all the time. Oh yeah.

Yeah. And the, the music's really good. And I just think the part when he realizes he has to escape and he goes in that weird tram that goes back and forth and the albino guys chasing Brimley and they end up in that thing. And he's like beating Brimley to death with the suitcase. Like that 15 minutes is incredible.

And speaking of like Tom Cruise doesn't know he's being funny. When he goes to David Strother and in prison, he's like, what if you, I went to Harvard and I wound up in the same place you are? David Strotheran's like, yeah, man, that would be weird, what's going on? Yeah, also that's the birthplace

of sexy sleazy Gene Hackman. Oh yeah. Going down to the Cayman Islands. Going down to the, yeah. No one has ever seen the words Genie Triple Horn yet also. Jean Hackman going down to the Cayman Islands. Going down to the never saw horned hacks. No one has said the words Jeannie Triple Horn yet also. God bless her, you know. My number one icon.

I mean, it's really, she's not on the Tom Cruise list that we know of. Jean Triple Horn? Yeah. Did he date her? No, but it's a missed opportunity. Well, he was a kidman at the time. Oh, that's right. Triple Horn.

Very happily married. Like, underrated in basic instinct. Sure she is. I was a Triple Horn guy. Still. Triple horn. Very happily married. Like underrated in basic instinct. Sure she is. I was a triple horn guy. She's underrated. Simmons? What did you like about her in basic instinct? It was the,

Sharon was giving it all to you. There was something behind the eyes with triple horn. Yeah, for sure behind the eyes. Bill Simmons, you've got two picks. All right, I'm gonna do first sports thing. I'm doing Top Gun. Okay,. Sure. There we go. Incredible volleyball scene. Homoerotic in the best ways. What was the song? Playing with the boys. Whatever that song was. Yes. We were listening to the soundtrack. What would be like if it was homoerotic in the worst way?

Like what would be the worst? I just said it was in the best way. Okay. I don't know what the worst way would be. Guys oiled up, playing in jeans, sand in their joints. Joyful. Yeah. Then he checks his watch and he just ends the game.

Yeah. Yes, go. He goes to Kelly McGillis' house and he's like, I need to take a shower. So, okay, I always forget this guy's, it's like, it was the game over? I forgot it was that. He checks his watch and he's just out. Yeah.

And Goose is like, dude, what's, set four. What's the, the hunky guy that was in, um. Rick Rossovich. Rossovich. He was in the, uh. My guy Rick Rossovich? Rick Rossovich. He was in the Cyrano de Bergerac remake with Roxanne.

He's also in the Jessica McClure TV movie. Yeah. And then I'm going to go Jerry Maguire for 90s. Yeah. OK. That's the right pick. Good. Bill, strong.

Thanks. Strong, yes. Top Gun Jerry Maguire. But I'm not picking him forever. Is the Top Gun scene, is that, is that sensual to women? Is that sexual? Do they look hot? Is that hot for women?

My wife likes slatter. So I saw it at a young age. Like it's, I saw it around the same time I saw Ghost. And you know, and which I remember. That's why you love pottery. The pottery scene, but it's just like, something's going on here, you know? And it's like, I'm six or seven and I'm just like, what is this?

Never seen it before. What's going on between these people? Is that really what it looks like when someone takes their shirt off? You know? Like so, so yes, in some way. Much more innocent than us. Yeah. I saw the deep in the theater with my mom, Jacqueline Bissette, scuba diving in a white

t-shirt and I was six. I'm like, yeah. Did I tell you I just watched it for the first time last week? I'm going to be older someday. Did I tell you that I watched it for the first time? The deep. The deep's good. It was okay.

No, it's scary though. The chicken booted blood seems scary. There's like a lot of time spent on, um, who is it? Is it Louis Gossett Jr's like weird Haitian rare glass dealer who's also a drug dealer? Yeah. Anyway, uh, the Jacqueline Bissette thing, the first, like literally the first 15 minutes of her in a sheer top scuba diving, easily the most illogical thing I've ever seen in a movie.

Why is she wearing that outfit? They knew how to do it in 1977. She looks great. No reason. Okay. We're back to see us. They knew how to do it in 1977. She looks great. Okay, we're back to... Wait, can I say one thing on McGuire? I didn't talk about it long enough. I think it's the best Tom Cruise performance in any movie. Other than one other movie that will get drafted and when it gets drafted, I'll say.

But I just think it was peak of Tom Cruise powers. A director that really understood him. Knew how to write for him, actors and toys for him to play with that he really bounced off in the right ways. Like not even Zellweger as much as Bonnie Hunt, Lipnicki, Cuba. Every scene with him in Cuba is incredible. That movie is eternal. It's a perfect movie. Help me help you. It's in the running for best sports movie in the last 30 years. I think so.

Also, it's like, I didn't, it was a movie that like when I saw it, I didn't relate to it at all. There was like nothing, but emotionally it just drug everything out of me. There's nobody that I know who's seen that film that doesn't connect to it. It just makes sense.

It's too relatable. How old is Jerry Maguire in the movie? Late 30s? 35? Can we talk about that sex scene for a minute? Kelly Preston. I mean it's memorable because I saw it sitting next to my mother and I was like I don't really want to be here for this right now. Yeah but you know I guess it's one of the more, he's not really doing any of the work, like literally, but also. She's very special. Yes, she's making it happen.

Another 80s icon. Yeah. Twins, the experts. Are you dorking? Oh yeah. In Tom Cruise Does a Sports Thing? Yes. I'm gonna take Color of Money.

Wow. Had to be. Yeah. This had to be yours. I was running out of sports things and also this is kind of maybe my favorite Tom Cruise movie, even though it is a opponent movie. Is this the only time he ever played a twerp? That's debatable. I think a lot of people would be like there's twerpness in many of his films.

He's kind of a twerp in Rain Man. So twerp in Risky Business. Sure. Little twerp. He's really annoying in Taps. Oh. That's true. Sorry. But he is king twerp in this one,

and he does it so well. I think this is way up there in some of his best performances. Yeah, I mean, I think- He is the character. I think Werewolves of London is the, put it in a museum if somebody is like, why is he a movie star? Just playing that scene.

Do you have the Vince t-shirt? I do. Why didn't you wear it today? I forgot. And I also just felt like wearing a sweatshirt because I never know what the temp's going to be in these places. There you go. Got it.

Do you think it's weird that he played two characters named Vincent? No, I mean, I don't think he's, I think he's got some of the most unimaginative character names. Do you think Vincent is the most underrated movie character name of all time? The most, wait, what? It's good. He's played Vincent twice in collateral and call him on a half Italian side, Vincent Hannah and he Vincent Vega and pulp fiction.

There's probably been some other Vincents. Do you know any Vincents in real life? Have you ever met a Vincent? Yes. I know a five-year-old Vincent. You know Vincent? Yeah. He goes by Vince.

He's Vince. He's that Vincent. I'm saying Vincent. Like this is my friend Vincent. He's visiting this week. Yeah. There's Van Gogh, of course. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a name that only exists in movies. I wouldn't though's van Gogh, of course. Yeah. Yeah, it's a name that I don't know anybody No, I wouldn't though. Anyway, great. No bill. Thanks Van 80s cocktail. Okay. Wow stabbed me him in the heart. Yeah. Yeah I wasn't even gonna do it was too early to take it. Okay I'm happy with my team. Aiden's Cocktail. Still one of my favorite.

Although it's not funny. It's not. It is funny. I don't know why it's funny. It's always been funny to me. When he comes upon the blood. It's like, I don't know why it's funny to me. Like, even when I first saw it, she was like, hey,

ah, it's just a fucking hilarious scene. The guy's dead, it's fucked up. Love the movie. Early, early, early entry into the White Girl Hall of Fame. Kelly Lynch. Kelly Lynch. Yeah. This also takes a Tom Cruise Does a sports thing film off the category because

he plays basketball. That's right. It's a movie. Yeah. Quite badly. Brian Brown smoking while playing hoops, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's the single best Cruise performance compared to the quality of the movie. He's so much better than the actual movie that he just drags it. I compared it. I remember it to like, just like one of those LeBron seasons where everybody in his team sucks and they still win 50 games somehow. Right. He's like Booby Gibson is like in the back. Yeah.

All the way in on this movie. He learns how to juggle bottles. He'd become this A plus list bartender. He looks great. He's just playing all the hits. Even when he's drunk, it's hilarious. Like he, he's just, it's a home run performance. It's I think considered like the weakest movie in the hottest run of a movie

start to, you know, where it's like, it's become like a, you know, it's an unintentional comedy hall of Famer, but all of the other movies around it are like, this is the best movie I've ever seen in my life. So it's, it's more memorable in a way because of that. It needs a 4k blue ray. I've just been waiting. It just doesn't exist. You should leverage your own power. Yeah. Why don't you start your own 4k label? 4k my own 4k Blu-ray.

Distro Company. Yeah. Just for cocktail. I just pick one. I release cocktail and I'm done. Okay. Amanda, you've got to pick. It's a good pick, man. I will look directly at you. As I say in nineties, I will take Magnolia. Yeah.

Well, I thought that's what you were going to do for your first pick. Uh, that would have been a crazy first pick. Well, I was hoping it would get back to me. Yeah, I assume so. I, people think it's the best, his best performance. I do. I was, is this the other best performance or do you have another one? Lee is probably his best dramatic performance.

Yeah. Okay. But it wasn't performance. Yeah, okay. But it wasn't what you were thinking of. I think McGuire and Cocktail. Cocktail is his most ridiculously entertaining performance. McGuire, I think, is his best all around. And then Magnolia is like, hey, I actually could have been a good actor in another lifetime. And it is also, like, as Sean said, it's the first of a run of him working

with like big time directors really taking, taking scenes. In some ways it's like a what could have been, you know? And that doesn't happen. I think they, I think the industry kicked them out of it. I think that he tried to do more stuff and because he wasn't like,

he tried to zag a little bit, as you guys say, and because it wasn't rewarded, because he went through the whole thing and they didn't, he tried to zag a little bit as you gotta say and because it wasn't rewarded Because he went through the whole thing and they didn't he was like fuck it I think he was actually a little disenchanted by the experience of trying to because he goes right back to the blockbusters Even into collateral it was like they don't want you that way And so then he fumbles around with some of the bigger stuff for a while I mean that period to me is very golden though. The two, the 99 through 2005 because it's two Spielberg movies. It's PTA.

It's Cameron Crowe. Like it is really him locking in with a lot of guys at great times in their careers too. They weren't as Stan the man. He'd stand the man as well. Yeah, that's right. Um, he, there's no way to go back to that, you know, like there's not even, even if he tried, even if he was like, I'm doing my next movie with Coogler and Chazelle and Jordan Peele,

I think it wouldn't make sense. We all have to be making movies about older men. Right, exactly. One of the bummers, as wide shut was almost like an athlete tearing their ACL. He filmed that movie for so long. Two years. Just one move. Sidelined him.

One, maybe two movies just out of his catalog. I wouldn't trade it for anything. It's still one of the craziest things that he's ever done. But it does also, I mean, if you buy into the difficulties that they had meritoriously on set, then not soon after they divorce and then things heat. I'm trying to think what couple wouldn't have gotten divorced after filming that movie for two years.

It's very true. You have to have just an amazing marriage. Yeah. Plus Kubrick was like, Crazy. Noticeably fucking with them. Yeah. Yeah.

And trying to like, it seemed like trying to destroy their relationship. I think trying to draw out the performance because that's what the movie's about. He was trying to take these takes over and over again that were super raw and intense. But it worked. Like that movie works because you feel like that relationship is on the brink. And he's a guy who doesn't really know if he's going to be able to make it through this stage of his life, which is kind of what all those movies are about. That's what the Frank T.J.

Mackey performance is about. That's I mean, it's crazy how much that's what the vanilla sky movie is about. Where Cameron Crowe is like, I'm now working again with the most famous person on the planet. What would it be like for that person to be publicly destroyed only for five years later for him to actually become publicly destroyed I mean the arc of his career is so crazy. Did people want to see him weird? I don't think so He he was he's a weird in eyes wide shut. He the vanilla sky weird movie. Yeah, like People were ready for him to be

weird. Yeah. I think he could be. I think he could go weird now. I think we could see elder statesmen weird chance taker crews. I think he's got a little bit of a goodwill with people to where he could take more chances right now if you wanted to. I think you're right. I hope that's what the next few movies are about. I got two picks here. I'm not in as bad a spot as I thought I was gonna be. Interesting. Although a lot of key ones are coming off the board. 80s is looking a little thin for me right now so I think that's where I got to go next and I'll take Risky Business which is a signature performance. Probably the movie that most clearly communicates what kind of movie

star he could be carrying a movie all by himself. Honestly, working with a really sophisticated filmmaker at a young age, that movie is obviously much deeper than just like him sliding around in his underwear. But he could use him sliding around in his underwear to sell something about himself. Also an athlete in that movie, but we don't see him playing a sport, which is interesting. So it doesn't qualify for this. Unless dance is a sport. Unless dances. Well, that kind of dance,

I don't know, private house dancing. Yeah. That Rebecca DeMarnay, another one he dated, they got, they dated for a year. They fell in love in that movie. She looks great. Beautiful. So risky business in eighties and then any, any risky business thoughts guys? Anything you want to share? I think they'll capture them. Yeah, they'll do it. It's the best, it's the best done teen movie of that entire era.

It's unbelievable. It's not the best movie. Like, you know, or the best. But it's a teen movie like that's made by adults. It's shocking. It's shocking. Yeah. It's not, that's not the answer to the job.

It's not like Fast Times. but it is a team. Well, it's more fast times than it is like a Breakfast right right right right pretty pink. Okay. It's an amazing movie and An important cruise movie because I don't think anyone thought of him as a star before that movie And I remember after it came out, it was like, what's his next movie? And then it felt like it was off. I saw all the right moves in the theater

after Risky Business because of Risky Business. Yeah. Interesting. There you go. We had like eight of us, ninth graders just popping over there. Boy, I'm a little stumped on where to go next. I just feel like in complete command of this draft.

I feel like fucking Sam Presti. Everyone else is stumped. I know what I'm doing. You can do anything. I admire your confidence, Phil. I don't need a list. I don't have a scouting department. Wherever this draft goes, I'm ready.

You think that's how Sam Presti works? Yeah. Without a list or a scouting department. I'm thinking, who cares? He's just like, I want long athletes. Hi there, I'm Ryan Reynolds and I have a list of things I like to have on set. It's just little things like two freshly cracked eggs scrambled with crispy hash browns, sausage crumble and creamy Chipotle sauce from Tim Hortons.

From my rider to Tim's menu, try my new scrambled eggs loaded breakfast box. I am going to just say I'm going gonna choose my favorite acting performance of his career, which is Born on the Fourth of July in Oscar nominee. Wow. Just took it out of 80s. Took it out of 80s. That hurts. Make that a little more challenging for you guys.

This is a movie actually was nominated for best actor. I think there's a strong case he could have won this year. Movie that is like somewhat personal to me. Cause Ron Kovac was a Long Island guy, spoke at my high school when I was a kid. Um, and his story is very resonant to my parents' generation. And I think it's easily one of Oliver Stone's best movies. It's a hard movie to watch. It doesn't have the same like rewatchables juice that a lot of his stuff does, but

it's so beautifully done. Um, and so I would feel good about having Born on the Fourth of July. It's a good pick. Not a lot of bits to do about Born on the Fourth of July. It's a tough watch. I'd love it or leave it. I'd love it or leave it. It's a tough watch.

It's a great movie, though. I don't really crank it any that often. You don't turn it on? It feels like a Born on the Fourth of July night. I do wonder sometimes Whether or not he could have done some other Like I white often like I'm like could he have done the Costner part in JFK?

Mm-hmm. Yeah, like I wonder whether or not like he and Oliver so I think he could have yeah Definitely what a run of Vietnam movies there. Yeah. Yeah, this is about the tail end. This was the end of it, yeah. This is when we were done. The good casualty is a war with Michael J. Fox going, Sarge, what are we doing? That was the official end? OK. Sarge.

My favorite competitive acting performance story ever. You know that story, right? What? Where right before that scene when he's testifying at the end, Sean Penn walks over to him when Michael J Fox is sitting on the stand and he just whispers in his ear, TV actor, and then walks away to try to get them all bent out of shape. So that's a good performance.

Great, great little story. That's the problem. Okay. That's really funny. Uh, okay. Okay. It's my turn again. Um, local sports podcast.

This is, this is, uh, this is a more of a strategic pick than, uh, you're up. Okay, it's my turn again. Local sports podcast. This is a more of a strategic pick than a, it's funny to go from Born on the Fourth of July and you're, you know, like beautiful, a beautiful performance and a great movie to what I'm about to do, but I can't think of that many sports things off the top of my head right now that Tom Cruise is doing. So I'm going with War of the Worlds and Tom Cruise does a sports thing. The infamous playing catch. Cocky Mr.

Presti over here. Child abuse with sports. Throw the ball at your son's head. Yeah, it's really, it's not what you want. His son is the Red Sox fan. Yeah. Right. How did that happen?

Yeah. It murdered the movie. Never recovered from it. Literally one year after the Sox title. Yeah. Really vulnerable. Really vulnerable. After Really vulnerable. Yeah, that's tough. Where's that kid at? What happened to him? Don't know.

He was good. Sure. Yeah. Dakota Fanning was transcended in that movie. Amazing. So you took that in which category? Tom Cruise does a sports thing. Okay.

So now we have on sports thing, we have color of money is off the table you have Top Gun and Amanda has or the world's okay words Alright so CR is up for bands up no bands up First Mission Impossible movie coming off the table in Mission Impossible in Mission Impossible. Okay, I'm taking fallout Yeah, yeah Look I Started with the Mission Impossible franchise early, right? I remember everything about the first movie. I remember the guy getting mad.

What was the guy that starred in the television show? Can't remember his name, whatever. He was pissed off that his character, that Jim Phelps had turned bad. He cursed Kennedy out at the MTV Movie Awards for her having not seen the show. I was so into the movie, I saw the movie, I did not understand it at all. The first time I saw it. The first time I saw the original Mission Impossible. Then after Mission Impossible 2, there was no possible way that I thought that this would lead to

the franchise that it's become. It just didn't have the bang up beginning that most franchises like this happen. Mission Impossible 2 was kind of a downer, we didn't kind of get that one. And the first one had kind of a convoluted script even though it had some really, really cool and awesome moments. I kind of feel like Fallout was the first movie in the Mission Impossible series to where I was like, I'm fucking all in on this. Like the rest of them were films that were like, oh, they were good, they were cool to watch.

You know, Philip Seymour Hoffman and all of that stuff was like, but like when I'm looking at Fallout, I'm like, oh shit, I mm-hmm I get why these are such awesome movies I still think it's the best one. Good pick. Which one was that one? Fallout. It's the one where they throw the helicopter. Henry Jobs, the helicopter. And the bathroom right? You couldn't care less about Mission Impossible. John Lark, Vanessa Kirby. They all blend together. And the it's the best one. He does the motorcycle thing in Paris and then jumps into the thing. It's good. You're going to have to draft one of them.

You know, I get it. So CR Europe. Fidelio, I'll go. I'll go as wide shut for 90s. Yeah. So kind of like unique in a lot of his performances in that it's a play. It's a film where he's being asked to like turn down the charisma and turn down his, you know, probably personal preference to always be the master of

the universe around him. In fact, in this movie, it's like kind of mocking that saying like, you don't know what's going on. You're not in control. You're not in control of your libido. You're not in control of your marriage. You're not in control of the world around you. Just kind of a fascinating performance by him in an incredible film. So. Very influential movie. How so? On QAnon? On culture. Yeah. I remember we were doing a story, we were doing a story of TMZ back in the day about this thing called Sanctum that exists in LA. Or I don't know if we did the story, but people were- But you're talking about it.

Yeah. And it was like a high class sex party that exists. It's called Sanctum. Okay. Sanctum LA. Bill's searching it right now. Yeah, you could probably get in. And so-

I like joining clubs. They were, man, I want to talk with a, I'll talk about you, talk to you about a pause. Just meet me at a warehouse downtown LA, one 30 in the morning. And when we didn't understand what they were talking about and they were like, it's like eyes wide shut immediately. You get it. You know, like eyes wide shut immediately you get it you know masks sex rich champagne yeah jazz pianists as pianists you more of a Nick Nightingale or more of a dr. will yeah definitely Nick yeah yeah okay what about you I'm kid man all the way Alice is her name right it is yeah I'd, I'd never thought about that until this moment. Well, I have. Yeah. I'm not. I was like, I mean, like rocked me to my core. It came out my birthday weekend, 1999. I was

the most movie obsessed. It's also a movie that like we could do on the rewatchables 52 times in a year and probably still have new stuff to talk about. So fascinating. Oh my God, please do it. It would be right up there. The re-shut. Yeah. It's time to re-shut. Get my God, please do it. It would be right up there. The re-shut? Yeah. It's time to re-shut. Get Roger Avery on. Sherri's got some deep thoughts.

I have two picks. Yeah. I'm going to take Rain Man for Oscar nominee. Okay. In a very important cruise movie. He hadn't fallen for the archetype yet of the lovable cocky underdog who becomes a good person by the end of the movie. It was still fresh. There's still five more movies to go where he played that same guy.

Won an Oscar. Barry Levinson. Iconic Vegas thing. Hoffman wins the Oscar. Great soundtrack. Good baseball card scenes. To, toothpicks, famous movie. Delighted to have it here at the last pick of the third round. Can't believe it's still on the board. And then, uh, for my other one, we did a rewatchable zone.

That was a good one. For my other one. Not a top 10 episode, but. Interesting. What is your ranking? Why don't you? I mean, JFK number one, for sure. I listen to it every year when I'm feeling down.

Incredible performance by you. Thank you. The Godfathers are pretty good. Yeah. You know, I thought you guys did a great job with Star Wars. I don't know if that's up in top 10 yet. I mean, the town, of course, Rosillo. I never want to meet Ryan Rosillo just because I need that to live on.

Yeah. Underrated Rosillo performance in the Star Wars episode. Not underrated. That was absolutely. I was weeping. It was really fun. I got served the other day, Rosillo on the Vision Quest pod. I was like, there's just nobody better.

Yeah. Just to let you guys know, you still have a draft pick to make, right? I know. As we vamp, he doesn't know what he's gonna pick. So we should put him on the clock. I wanna know what category it is. I don't understand.

I thought you were Sam Presti here. You talked about big, big old game. I wanna make sure I have the right category. I'm gonna do, for Blockbuster, $100 million, Tropic Thunder. Wow. Horseshit. Import, why? Made $195.

I know, but like Tom Cruise. I don't make the rules. I just live by Sean's category rules. It's a fair choice. Yeah. It's, you know, there are other Blockbusters that are still on the board that could have been taken there, but if that's what you want to do, go for it. I'm going to make sure I have the movie.

I want to make sure I have the right category. Dig it into the iPad. I'm going to do for Blockbuster, $100 million, Tropic Thunder. Wow. Horseshit. Import, why? Made $195. That's a fair choice. Yeah. It's, you know, there are other blockbusters that are still on the board that could have been taken there, but if that's what you want to do, go for it. Yeah, that's what I want to do. Would you have considered the dancing that he does at the end to be a sports thing? Possible.

No, not really. There's not enough movement in it. I just watched it again yesterday. Just the credits. Like it's funny. It's a good performance, but he's like fairly stationary in the fat suit, you know? I just watched this movie recently and it's really, really, really funny and I'm glad it exists. It is one of the most, if not the most requested rewatchables movie. Yeah. It's just really good. And it's out there in the world. It's a really, really good movie. And Chris wants to revisit specifically RDJ's performance.

Yeah. And he's had a lot of thoughts about it. I think it's the funniest shit ever. It is. You can't get mad at the movie because the whole point of that performance is... I don't give a fuck. They're twisting on the... Every time I watch it though, a different person steps up for me.

Like Kugen is really great. He's so good. It's also like pretty much everyone from that era. The scene between him and Brandon T. Jackson, where all of a sudden he starts talking about putting some crawed ass on the grill. And the whole thing. That is like,

Brandon T. Jackson is like, what are you talking? That is the funniest. See like, I don't want to. Ha ha! I put some crawed That is the funniest. See like, I don't want to. Ha ha! I put some crawled ass on the grill. That shit is so fucking funny. Like belligerent laughter.

Did you say bullshit? Sounds like I made another good pick. You did, Bill. Well, Bill, because it's not like, I mean, it has nothing to do with it. $200 million, it's a blockbuster. Yeah, it is. I love the movie, but it's, you know.

Why do you feel the need to fluff your own team during the draft? I'm just really happy with it so far. Let's keep it going, guys. All right. Chris, you're up. In... Blockbuster.

I'll take Minority Report. I think so. Is this this last Spielberg movie? No, World of Warcraft. World of Warcraft, yeah. We just did this on rewatchables. Is this his last Spielberg movie? No. We just did this on rewatchables. Just a fantastic, put Tom Cruise in a Hitchcock thriller and make him a wrongly accused man on the run. That's turns out he's very, very good at that.

And such a great athletic performance, although not a sport, but scaling buildings, going blind, doing this, like all sorts of stuff. And he's really a fantastic, probably up there with Harrison Ford and Richard Dreyfuss, I guess, as Spielberg-like heroes. People that Spielberg is just really great at shooting. So just an awesome performance by him. I'm happy to have it. Great pick. I'm going to do sports thing. I'm gonna do sports movie.

We'll do Days of Thunder. Thank God. I thought you were gonna do something else. I'm gonna do Days of Thunder, him driving around. Like look, some of the driving in the movie on the track is great, but nothing is better than the race they do. The rental cars.

The rental cars, fantastic. And the wheelchair race is good too. Love, love, love, days of thunder. Nicole Kidman is a neurosurgeon? Neurosurgeon. Sure. Neurosurgeon in there. Is she Australian in that?

Is that why you don't like the movie? No. She's a 24 year old Australian neurosurgeon living in Charlotte, North Carolina. Exclusively working on NASCAR drivers. Yeah. But not having a lot of respect for like Denise Richards, Astro Physicist, Christmas Jones. She did a, she zoomed through med school. Okay.

Like in like eight classes. She's like, she's like, she has her. Oh, I thought you went like on zoom. Maybe she did that too. Cause then she licensed here in the US despite being Australian. Neurosurgeon, med school in two years in Australia. I'd like to check her board certification. Yeah.

Um, it's my pick and in Mission Impossible, I will take Mission Impossible 1996. Um, I love this entire franchise and it's because I was 12 when this movie came out. Is this your favorite one? I think Fallout is probably, Fallout was going to be my first pick and Van got it because it is, you know, I think it's when it reaches its greatest heights. And I mean, like I said, he jumps out of a plane, he, you know, motorcycles around Paris. Like I have all of those set pieces kind of memorized. Yeah. But I also have the, you know, the Langley, the Fall, the Knock List. And that, like, in a single image, that is that entire franchise and kind of Tom Cruise's 90s summed up. So I was just really into it. I was really into the music. I think I like recorded the theme song, like off the TV onto like my cassette tape, you know, just to be be able which is a normal thing to do in 1996 great great movie and holds it like still just absolutely

slaps is the Langley scene bar none the coolest scene in the movie it is right there's so many cool yeah like there's so many just cool helicopter in the train tunnel is pretty yeah it's incredible too. Yeah, also iconic. Yeah. Remember the scene when he had a mask on and he took it off and it was Tom Cruise? Why are you trying to harsh the mellow mission impossible? Remember the scene when, yeah, he was Wolf Blitzer but instead he was that guy.

I don't know if we need an aid of him. That's the best one. That! That one and that's Fallout. That's Fallout. That's so good. That's crazy. Yeah. Have you seen that one where he's actually Wolf Blitzer?

I've seen all of them. They're good. When they're in with the scientist Niels Delbruck, who believes in anarchy. Really, really good stuff. Who is it? Sean Harris plays... what's his character? I forget the name of his character. He's also an anarchist.

Simon Lane. Late era Emilio Estevez in the original one as well. Sierra, would you rather add seven Mission Impossibles or seven cocktails? If you had to pick. I think that Mission Impossible probably was a more durable franchise. I think you're right. Would I do seven Cock-Color of Monies? Seven firms?

What would Cocktail 2 be called I mean we did do seven firms. Like Flannigan Returns. Well, Cocktail 2 clearly ends up with a waitress, gets divorced, and probably loses the bar. I think Cocktail could have been a trilogy just so we could name the third one Last Call. Cocktail 3 Last Call. Yeah. Last Call. That's pretty good. And he comes back to like competitive bartending.

I just think Cruz, I think Flannigan should have just lived in Jamaica and that I could have spent maybe five, six years in Jamaica with just the people coming in and out of the resort. But then you don't get the scene. What? The blood. Well, no, I'm saying like for the sequels. Oh, for the sequels. I just think if he's in Jamaica, I'm happy. You're up, Big Dog.

Yeah. I got a draft for need here, unfortunately. So things are starting to get a little thin. My personal taste. So in Mission Impossible, I'm taking Rogue Nation, which I think is definitively the third best. That's the hanging off the plane. I don't want to lose it. That's the Kremlin.

That's the introduction of Ilsa, Rebecca Ferguson's character. And the Macquarie era begins here. But that's blowing up the Kremlin to start. And the hanging off the plane. The first time. Not the Burj Khalifa one. The one after that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because the other ones I have varying degrees of issues with. So I want to feel confident in my Mission Impossible pick. And I love Rogue Nation. No offense guys, sorry. Inexplicable bias towards a certain film in this franchise. Inexplicable? I'll explain exactly what I feel the way I feel. I'm with him, but it's nice that you have it.

So you know, if we can have peace, then it's fine. Without suffering, there is no peace as we learned in the film Fallout. I'm just Googling Tom Cruise, like Oscar nomination, you know, right now. So. Yeah, cause I'm getting a little bit here too. So. It's the only place I'm getting bad.

I think I need a blockbuster. But I also need a sports thing. And I'll take all the right moves in my sports thing. Okay. You, you did not do that. I had to. It's the last sports thing. No, it's not.

What's the last sports thing? There's another sports thing. Is there? Tell me about it. Yeah, he plays football in Oblivion. Yeah, well, I was not going to take that. So you took an 80s movie off the board for me? Well. Oh, man. There's plenty of 80s movies left. Not really, but it'll be okay draft. It would be fucking hysterical

Yeah, not a huge fan of oblivion. I liked it. It's okay. Yeah to take it here Yeah, it would be as my fifth overall pick that wouldn't have been great great Olga Karolenko behind the scenes I think they also dated briefly or a real rumor to have dated I mean when you're with Cruz all day, you end up falling for him. You fall in love. Yeah. Especially after you get to call him. 45 years of history.

This guy is... It's almost like his... If Amanda spent some time with him, the marriage might be in trouble after like six hours. Sorry, Zach. So no. The Cruz tractor beam is on right now. Not until he gets a haircut. It's by Zach that always kept Amanda away from Tom Cruise.

Yeah, when is he going to get a haircut? TC? Yeah. What's up? I don't know. I don't gonna get a haircut? TC? Yeah, what's up? I don't know, I don't like the long look. I love the short. Ethan should always have short hair in my opinion. Do I do also, we'll talk about it.

Like I understand now why he has long hair, having seen the film. Yeah. But. Is it cause he's Methuselah or something? Yeah, that's it. Sort of, yeah. No, I prefer, with this hair length,

it wouldn't be an issue for Zach. Although I moves briefly, this is the be an issue for Zach. Yeah. All the right moves briefly, this is the movie that predicted Jason Sehorn. We never knew we needed a white corner. Cooper DeGene. Who could perform this, Cooper DeGene, wow. Super Bowl superhero.

Cultural. Pretty good movie. Pretty underrated, I think. Fucking awesome. Yeah, I would've liked it. I feel like it might be the most overlooked Cruise movie in total never seen it really never seen it what never see it really oh you'd love it

really good I've never seen it what in the fuck I have seen quarterback princess with Helen Hunt other moves is like a real move well now I like to see that have you seen Quarterback Princess? No, but I'm Googling it. So it's a true story about a female quarterback from British Columbia. It's a TV movie though.

Whatever. Other Way Moves is a real movie. So you're saying Quarterback Princess about a woman. It's a TV movie. Okay cool. Like I've seen Quarterback Princess. She's saying it's a TV movie. I've seen Lucas.

Other Way Moves has one of the best football sequences in the history of football movies. I've seen Lucas though right? Lucas is. No, no. All the way movies is good. It's not. It has very controversial kneeling on the ball decision. That I might have written like a thousand words about when I had my mailbag once upon

a time. Leah Thompson. They fell in love of course during the making of that film. Did they date during that? I've seen parts of that. But I haven't sat in love, of course, during the making of that film. Did they date during that? I've seen parts of that. But I haven't sat down and watched the whole thing. I watched it this weekend.

I thought you were just being horny earlier, but you're right, man. He really does have like an incredible resume. It wasn't a bit. Yeah. Um, Amanda, you're up. You guys are going to start the conversation. In 21st film? Leo has anonymous models and Cruz is just ripping through.

I mean, it's Jeter when it's all said and done. Cruz or Jeter, I don't know. It's an argument. To your faves. In 21st century, I'm going with Edge of Tomorrow. Oh, fuck. I can't believe you guys left it this long. I really honestly can't.

I thought that it was gonna go in one of the many other categories. This movie rips. This is also in what has been like a dark period of Tom Cruise's career. And, you know, everything happens in 2005. Some not great movies. He's lost his mojo. And like, he's back.

And he is like alive in this movie. And it's him being good. Decent chemistry with Emily Blunt. I think it goes further than this because it was one of those that came out and everyone said it was good but nobody believed it. Because everyone had given up on Tom Cruise. He was down. Yeah, he was so down and out. And it was like, no, no, you got to see it. No, really. It's good. It's good. And it was like that for about a week.

Yeah. It's great. She's good in it too. I mean, she's good, it's good. And it was like that for about a week. Yeah. It's great. She's good in it too. I mean, she's incredible. They do have good chemistry. I know some people are mad at the ending, but I like the romance, but I like it. It's fine, come on. The movie's good.

Yeah, it's good. It's one of my favorite movies. Also, her doing like Up Dog and then Cobra, those are my summer goals, you know? I have a lot of work to do and I was wondering... No judgment. Go for it. Like what substances she took in that moment, she looks amazing. So, it's powerful. She's on the Jason Tatum will be ready for February.

Okay. Why? Why do you have to come up? Great pick. Obviously, a phenomenal movie. Another movie that I think like it came out and everybody was like, yeah, this is fine. And then, bang. It was like the movie where I was most scared for Tom because it was a legitimately, it wasn't oblivion. It was a legitimately good movie that people just didn't give a fuck about. But has lived on is like one of the final like examples, like one of the great more

recent examples of like a movie that almost has cult status and has been rewatched and kind of revived a lot of times. Just because people just wouldn't let it not be well received, it was like, yo, if you ever watch it, this shit is incredible. Yeah, lymania. Doug. All right, Van, you're up. Totally sold what I was going to draft, and I really feel like I was gonna be in a good position if I could get it tomorrow. So now I gotta go Oscar. Okay.

Okay. I'm going Vanilla Sky. Okay. Cause I'm only drafting- What Oscar did that win? Been a tough spot here. It was nominated. For what?

I don't know. Best Original Song. That's right. Wow. What was the original song? Vanilla Sky written by- Key Mac. Best original song. That's right. Wow. What was the original song? Vanilla Sky written by, performed by Paul McCartney.

Sing it. P-Mac. Do you know the song? I wouldn't sing it, but I do know the song. Isn't it the song that plays over the end credits? The only song I remember from that movie is the Buckley song. That's fake. Well, that's what her take.

To play the last part. If it needs to be, if it's not the song, it needs to be in the movie. I rewatched it, and they have, I mean, it's a Cameron Crowe music budget. Yeah. I don't know whether it's used, but really. The Times Square scene is really cool. I, I think we should do this on rewatchables. Cause I think it's like the most interesting movie

of its era. It might not be the best movie. I don't like that they just remade a movie that did really well, like a year before. It is a much crazier version of Abre Los Ojos. Abre Los Ojos is a much smaller movie than Vanilla Sky. Vanilla Sky becomes this like science fiction extravaganza in the final act. And everybody's in it. It was the most off kilter I think me and my friends

have ever been like in the movie theater because just had no fucking clue what the movie was actually going to be about. Well, cause the movie had no clue what it was. Yeah. It's all over the place. It is a little all over the place, yeah. I rewatched it.

It's incoherent. An out and out disaster. So it's always crazier than I've watched. Yeah. It just like does not work. It's completely incoherent. I have like a very complicated relationship with Cameron Diaz. So, you know, but it's...

It's literally one of her best performances. I don't think she's ever been better in a movie than that movie. Some of her dialogue in that movie... She's funny. When she's funny, she's really, really funny. She's so psycho in that movie. Some of her dialogue in that movie set the Baton Rouge Theater's long fight. We had never seen her like this. We were like, oh, oh, yeah. The Carseyan shirt.

Right. I was like, whoa. Yeah, it does not come together for me, but it was a swing. So that means Sierra's up? Sierra's up. Sierra's up. Don't fuck this up, Sierra. Well.

What do you got left on the board? 80s, mission. Oral whatnot. Oral and whatnot. 80s, mission, and Guadalcanal. And Medina's. Yeah. Okay. Oh, and 21st century. Oral and whatnot. 80s mission and Guadalcanal. Yeah. Okay. Oh, and 21st century. And 21st century. Oh, boy.

We're only halfway through here, guys. No, I know. Now it gets a little dicey. I mean, I... Manil's guy going off the board is the official like, okay, what's actually on the board now? There's some good ones left. I'm feeling great about my board,

my scouting department. That's great, Sam. Sam's over here. Lots of picks. I guess for great about my board, my scouting department. That's great, Sam. Sam's over here. Lots of picks. I guess for the 80s, I'll take the outsiders. God damn it. Yeah, that's the one. That's the last one.

Cause I like it. Fuck. The most of the remaining 80s films that I needed in 80s film. He's obviously just part of an ensemble and not even in like the upper third of the most important characters, but he's good. You can see he's got something.

This is OG teeth. This is two or three teeth jobs ago. Yes. But he's, he's a good little ratty kid on the, on the outskirts of this gang. And this movie is fucking incredible. Chocolate cake face. What's that? The chocolate cake, chocolate cake face.

He looks, he's eating the chocolate cake. They really, I watched that movie not too long ago. Like I have forgotten how much I loved that movie. Yeah, Stay Gold, Ponyboy. Yep. I like watching that movie. I thought white people were really like that then you guys just been disappointing me ever since. Also just the socios and the greasers. I thought that I was gonna have a bunch of cool like greaser homies type friends. Because of that. You never met a macho? Nah, I never met a macho You know, we rep for macho on Long Island. That's our guy. My yo, yo cooked cruise in this one to go back and watch it And for that exact reason like see Thomas how is fucking hanging on the rim

Like macho was getting busy in that movie. Thomas Howe was getting busy. Swayze is amazing. Swayze, did you, there's a part in that movie, what the fuck was, talk about doing a sports thing, there's a part in that movie where they're going out to the rumble and Swayze jumps over the fence by doing a handstand on top of the fence and then coming on, I'm like,

I forgot about that old Swayze is a fucking midget. He's so powerful. Patrick Swayze really important to me. What Swayze movies have you guys done on the rewatch? Point Break. Roadhouse. World House. He's got a good little run.

Can I move a movie to a different category? No. Sorry my friend. I've been thinking about that for 35 minutes. Me too. That's what Sam Presti says when he's got the ninth pick. He's like, can I make this the seventh pick? And you say, no, you're picking ninth.

Can I do Ace Bailey? Yeah. That's fine. Six, seven. Okay. I'll do Taps for eighties then, because that's the last one. Wait, is it your pick? It's mine, isn't it?

It is. It is Bill's pick, yes. Oh, fuck me. Yeah. Taps is a really good movie. Sure. I like Taps. Sean Tennant, Taps.

Tim Hutton, leader of the group at that point, cause he was in ordinary people. Cruz is a maniac. Super funny, George C. Scott. George C. Scott. It's a boarding school. For some reason they decided to protect the boarding school cause they're going to knock it over for real estate.

It's a really good movie. Yup. Hutton becomes the cadet commander. And then the general base, it's one of my favorite after school joints. Also, I feel like Taps leads to one of the great movies of the early 90s, Toy Soldiers. It lays a lot of the groundwork.

It walks so Toy Soldiers can run. Cruz goes nuts in Taps and just fucking letting off rounds all over. Yeah. It's fucking beautiful. Yeah. Hutton did prep so that Wil Wheaton could cook. CR, you're up. No, I'm up again. Is Giancarlo Esposito in Taps? He is.

It's a young Giancarlo. I feel like he is. Am I wrong about that? I don up again. Is Gene Carlisle Esposito in Taps? He is. He's a young Gene Carlisle. I feel like he is. I don't remember. That's 83. That's pretty early for Gene Carlisle. First time I saw him, I didn't do the right thing. Okay.

So I need, just trying to figure out what I need. I don't have 21st century. I don't have Mission Impossible. I don't have a wild card. Okay. I intentionally left 21st century for later because there's a lot of good 21st Century. And that's going to lead me with a movie that I've watched many times. I know exactly what this is. He was way too short for the role.

It's true. I don't know why he's in it. But my girl Rosamund Pike's in it. Still have her stock. Yeah. In the garage. Jack Reacher. Yeah. This was a back pocket 21st century one for me too. Do you like Jack Reacher more than Jack Reacher Never Go Back? Yes. Do you know who directed Jack Reacher Never Go Back? This is his second film with Tom Cruise. It's McCrory, right? No, he directed Jack Reacher. Who directed Never Go Back. This is his second film with Tom Cruise. It's McCrory, right? Nope. He directed Jack Reacher. Who directed Never Go Back?

Does anyone know who it is? Ed Zwick. Oh, really? How great is that? Wow. Love Jack Reacher. Jack Reacher is a good movie. Jack Reacher 1 is a lot of fun.

Jack Reacher, a lot of fun. There was something about the movie where you can, I didn't know anything about the books, anything like that. Isn't it on the first page, they're like, he's 6'6, 260. Something about the movie where you could tell this wasn't quite Tom Cruise, but he still made it work anyway. My dad was outraged. He was, he loved the books and he just couldn't believe Tom Cruise is a show creature.

It's Lee Child and it's a great version of the non-video game version of a fan base absolutely revolting against the adaptation. Because they're just like, no, Jack Reacher is like Luke Keighley. Like the real guy. Well, that's fine. The Amazon one, they just went for a giant guy. Richson. He does a good job too. My dad's very happy with that show. Did you guys like, because Jack Reacher is based off these books. Remember Shooter?

Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, Shooter. Did we do Shooter on rewatchable? We fucking did. Yeah, I like Shooter. Shooter was a real cool movie. Evil Danny Glover. Evil Danny Glover. Evil Ned Beatty. Johnny Lee Swagger. What's his name? Yeah, Bob Lee Swagger. Bob Lee Swagger. I love Shooter. It's a one last job movie. Yeah, I think they made a USA show about Shooter. They sure did, starting with Randy Felipe. Shooter's one of those movies. Recently, like a year and a half ago.

Shooter's one of those movies where it came out and everybody was shitting on the movie. And so I watched it. Not me. Going like, oh my God, this is gonna be terrible. They're shitting on my side. This is where we're at on this pod is like all the big hitters are off the deck now.

And we're talking about shooters. I fucking love shooter. Tom Cruise is not in. I fucking love shooter. Kate Mara. It's Kate Mara at the top of her game. Yeah. It's amazing. She stayed away from Cruise. Yeah, well, they never matched up.

She never looked into the under a spell. CR, you're up. I'll take MI3 for a Mission Impossible movie. I'm gonna wait for the very last moment before I have to reap what I sow with the 2000s. Okay. Okay. No words on MI3.

This is the J.J. Abrams one. Philip Seymour Hoffman is the best villain in the history of this franchise. And this is the most human quote unquote that Ethan Hunt ever is in the whole entire franchise I know that it's belittled as a TV movie On certain podcasts on the ringer network don't really understand that but it looks like television That's what I mean guys this new bit post covid where you're like it's TV

So it's bad and like this movie does not look like telling how well defensive so it's bad and like this movie just not like telling. Wow, a little defensive. It does, I mean, it does have some CSI qualities to it. I heard this like thing before and I was just like, there's no perspective. He was making Alias and it looks like an episode of Alias with a bigger budget. It just does, I'm sorry to say. Alright.

Why are you giggling? It's like... We finally, how long did it take to get here? We got him, we got him. Dan and Del Shada, I don't know who that is. Apparently not Vilma Sigma, but still. You know, weird when Philip Supermoral Hoffman just gets on screen with a bunch of veteran actors and just shows how much fucking better he is than everybody who's fucking big.

He's phenomenal in it, there's no question about it. He's amazing in that movie, he is a great villain. The rabbit's foot is a great aspect of the film, but it is like commits every JJ Abrams sin of the book to me. Like an unresolved storylines that are supposed to be the most important thing in the world. Shooting every scene like it's an episode of 30 something. Like I don't know. It doesn't look like 30 something. Go back and watch the 30 something.

The Kerry Russell cold open is so fucking sick. The eye thing has got you cooked. You just think that that was the coolest thing of all time. It was cool. Episode of 30 something. It's cool. They put a fuse in her eye. Timothy Busfield. I really like Hoffman's performance in that movie and I think it was a good pixie. Don't get bullied by these movie snobs. Take it from Sam. Going on letterbox. Two and a half stars. Mission Impossible 3. It's a TV movie.

Excuse me. Don't, yes. Have you even seen it? Honestly. Mission Impossible 3. Hoffman's really, I like him. He's fucking amazing in it. It's the whole reason he's in the movie.

He's actually maybe the only good villain that they've had. Don't make me do this! The only memorable villain from the series ever to me. He's the only what? The only one. The only one. The only one. The only one.

The only one. The only one. The only one. The only one. He's actually maybe the only good villain that they've had. Don't make me do this! The only memorable villain from the series ever to me. He's the only what? Memorable villain from the Mission Impossible series ever. You drafted Fallout, which has Sean Harris. I know, but Fallout, but it's not in draft because of him. Like I drafted because of him, but I think that,

I don't think of these movies. I love Sean Harris, they way over committed to Sean Harris in the back half of this franchise And now it's like isn't the bad guy AI Well, we'll talk about it What's left on the board for me can somebody You have a you took mission impossible. You have a wild card left and you have 90s. Oh, 90s, okay, cool. Oof, not a lot of 90s left.

Not a lot of 90s left. I may end up having to take a movie that I actually don't like very much. Right now is why I took a few good men first overall. Because I was a little nervous about where we're at. That's why I took Jerry Maguire with my six pick in the draft. There are, I think there are two 90s films left.

I'm gonna have one more draft one next. You are going to have to. Yeah. My wild card's gonna be an episode of Aliens. It's your turn. Oh, it's my turn? Yes. Please watch once.

So I got two 90s movies that I could take. I, you know. Go with your heart. What's been guiding you, right? Yeah. I'm going to take Far and Away. Oh my God. Are you kidding? No, I swear to God. I mean, thank you, but like between those two, that is literally the worst Irish accent I've ever seen in my entire life.

I'm going to take Far and Away. Look, I'm going to be honest with you. I have, this is why I didn't take an interview with the vampire. I do not like that movie. Me neither. I, that, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't is why I didn't take Interview with the Vampire. I do not like that movie. Me neither.

That movie is, and I have tried over and over and over again since the time that the movie came out to appreciate that movie. What is there to appreciate? Particularly now when there is an interview with the vampire show that is on, that I feel like does the source material better, Joanna loves that show. I love that show as well. I do not like interviews with the vampire.

Far and away, is at least a movie that I've seen a bunch of times. It's weird. Like the boxing. It's stupid. The bare-knuckle boxing. The scene at the end, the coming back to life, bullsh- whatever. All of that stuff. I'm, I'm going to take Far and Away. Like it's an affront to Ireland and it should not be supported. I have a spoilery question. Uh huh.

Well I said affront to Ireland. I don't remember. Whatever Cruz's performance is. He like, I hear those great lines and he's really... He's doing CR doing Bono. But it looks beautiful. I got down to the end of it and I cannot take... I cannot take Interview with the Vampire. I do not like that movie very much. Okay. Well, that's my...

You know, the only thing that was good about Interview with the Vampire is that one photo of them on the red carpet. Oh yeah. When Brad Pitt has the crazy hair. Well listen, I think he's good in it. Please respect the game of Cure Sundance. I just love the hair it is. Yeah, it is a very good red carpet photo.

Okay, I'm up. You're up. In Oscar nominee, I will take Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning. Cause it was thin on the ground. And it got two nominations. Yeah. Is that legal?

Yeah. It absolutely is. In fact, these were the first nominations for any Mission Impossible movie. Yeah, but there's only six Mission Impossible movies. Well, there are seven. You could go around just picking Mission Impossibles and screwing everybody. You know? Well, what if I just decided to do that to you with my next pick? what I wouldn't get one you would be not qualified to win this draft. Yeah

Take that Sam Presti Now William I Mission impossibles were their own category. We couldn't take them in other categories. That was not communicated. Yeah I'm a possible mission in the game mission Mission Impossible, then reckoning, in my opinion, is a legitimately bad movie. I did not think it was that successful. He does ride the motorcycle off the cliff and I like, and there's also the scene with him and Hayley Atwell in Rome, the like, the tiny car, which I like, I genuinely thought was wonderful. I mean the the entity stuff is total garbage

Well We have left there's Literally only two blockbusters out of his 21 that are still on the board and I have not taken my blockbuster Okay, I believe I've got that car. I know what you're gonna take Tell me what I'm I've got that. Correct. I know what you're going to take. Tell me what I'm going to take. Four of the worlds. No, I would love it for the worlds was there. Yeah.

No, I misspoke. There are three. Okay. And I'll be taking the last samurai. Interesting. Because it's usually the best movie that's left of the three and it's a good film. 0.78 on IMDB or 7.8 out of 10. Yeah, it's exactly what it is. Yeah.

The 7.8 out of 10. Incredible battle sequences. Great Ken Watanabe performance. Amazing score. It looks good. It's a little slow and boring at times for sure. But, and it's not as white savior as I remembered. I rewatched it during COVID. And it's the same way with the Dances of the Wolves

where I was like, I thought I was gonna rewatch it and it was gonna be a white savior movie, but it's the opposite of that. It's like, this is actually weirdly very respectful of the culture. Nevertheless, I need a blockbuster. He becomes the greatest samurai in the whole country. He doesn't actually.

He doesn't actually. I don't think he's like- He becomes like a great general to the Japanese people. He's fucking over some people with samurai skills that have been doing it their whole life. Look, it's fine. I like the movie. Do you know why I like it?

I like down and out alcoholic crews. Yeah. Yes, that's good. I thought it was a- It's kind of like what would happen to Brian Flanagan if he became a samurai. I thought it was a Tony Stark. Now you have my attention. Cocktail eight samurai. And I think there's only one reasonable pick to be made in 21st century. And so I'm going

to make it. It's American made. It's the other Doug Liman movie. Okay. About a pilot who is becomes a smuggler and loose, slowly loses his mind and goes on crazy runs. And because I think everything else in the 21st century is pretty much dog shit. Pilot from where? Yeah. Really? Maybe I'm forgetting about a movie. I mean, I just, I, you really think Valkyrie is dog shit?

I didn't think it's not good. I, I, I think it's okay. I won't make fun of you. I mean, it really think Valkyrie is dog shit? I didn't think it's not good. I think it's okay. I won't make fun of you. I mean, it's not good. What's this bullying CR? Yeah, he's not bullying me. I just like, I think Sean is just virtue signaling. He's like, I'm not into Valkyrie.

It's like- Signaling that I'm not into Nazi propaganda directed by Brian Singer? Yeah. They're not Nazis, that's awful. They're anti-Nazi, they're anti-Hitler. Signaling that I'm not into Nazi propaganda directed by Bryan Singer But it happened in real life did it not it's based on some events So the shit didn't happen Bryan Singer just made it up It's it's a heavily fictionalized account of an attempt on Hitler's life that didn't actually come to pass interesting as the count of an attempt on Hitler's life that didn't actually come to pass. Interesting. I know that you love movies from that,

like made during that, about that era. And it has like a spy thriller quality to it. Well, we'll see, it might not even be available. Amanda's got a pick now. About the one, Barry Sills from that movie. He's not a Nazi. Yeah, he's a Wehrmacht. I mean-

He's Colonel Klaus von Stauffenberg. If he has any, let's listen. Yeah, he's a post Weimarmacht. I mean, he's Colonel Klaus von Stauffenberg. Yeah. He's a post Weimar Republic German. He's not exactly like a hero to the Jews in that movie. Exactly. Okay. Yeah, Cruz. Come on.

Actually, Colonel von Stauffen was a good man. I, uh, I've not seen that movie since I saw it whenever I. When you came out of the theater where you like. I didn't see that one in I saw it, whenever I came to the theater. Were you like, I didn't see that one in the theater. Okay. I patched German cruise. No, thank you. Yeah.

He doesn't bother with the German accent. No, I actually respect that when they do that. I do too. I don't know. Like there's English. It's just, they just do English and cruise. That was American. Yeah.

Um, so I have eighties left, which is just, it's, that's a real that's a real, I'm in a tough spot. So I might just do wild card to have some fun. Oh, go for it. I'm wondering, so are only feature films eligible or is something filmed and related to? Only feature films. So I can't do motion smoothing. No, that is not eligible. I mean, I think that I should be allowed to.

You should not. Do you know about this, the motion smoothing video? Where he and Christopher McCrory filmed like a two minute info of like, here's how to turn off motion smoothing in your home. I remember it. It's very special, but I'm not allowed to pick that. I obeyed it and used it because Tom Cruise told me to. Yeah, there you go.

What am I going to do here? Um Hmm What am I gonna do here and I thought you guys are like pretty rude about interview with a vampire You can take it. There's that it's a cultural phenomenon. Yeah, I'm cruising pit together again Impossible movies on the board. I know and I'm like trying to figure out whether to be a real dick to Bill. Mm-hmm. But I... You can do what you want. No, I know, and you'll still have one and it'll be fine. And, you know, I know I said some slightly rude things about Cameron Diaz,

but I gotta tell you, Night and Day is not the worst movie still on the board. So... I can't believe on the pod where you diss Cameron Diaz in Vanilla Sky giving one of her best performances, you're gonna take one of her worst ones. I think that you and I like different things about Cameron Diaz, you know? So, and that's why the world is this large and has room for both performances. Are you sure you don't want Valkyrie? Do you think she's better in Vanilla Sky or the Counselor?

Counselor is one. Counselor is one. Yeah, Counselor is like way better. She's good. Obviously, the climactic scene in Vanilla Sky, she's good. But when she, speaking of bedroom scenes, the first time you see her when they're supposed to have just had sex is like the chasm between two people

has never been greater. It's really... It's a recurring theme in these cruise films. So you're taking Night and Day? No, I don't think I'm going to take Night and Day. I want to leave it for Chris because... So you're not going to take Night and Day after we just talked about it for three minutes? What was that?

What was that? Welcome to my life. Why did we what was that? What was that? Welcome to my life. Why did we just do that? Everybody else is just talking about movies for 15 minutes because it's a process. You set it up for three minutes like you were taking it and then you're like, but I'm not gonna take it. But I'm filibustering.

Cool. I don't know. Why are you turning on me before I... I was excited for the day pick up. I had to make a pay for it. You can make a pay for it right now. I know, but it's just, maybe you could have said that in a supportive way

instead of, what's wrong with you? It's International Women's Month. The Night and Day promo tour was when he went to like seven continents in 24 hours. That's when he did the Young Jock. That was it, with the motorcycle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, all right.

Remember when he went on 106 and Park and did the Young Jock dance? Oh, shit! I do, that was out of my mind. But you know how big of a fucking deal it was for Tom Cruise to have gone on 106 and Park, because he had been on there before. I think the one when he did it was when it was like,

it was like an award show, maybe it was BT awards. He went on 106 and Park for collateral. And it was like a big fucking deal that he was on there. TC, give him back to me. I don't think Diaz never dated him. Who? Cam? No, was this in the...

I don't think Sparks flew in the set. Maybe she was with Justin Timberlake. All right, fine. I'll do Night and Day and Wild Card. Okay, cool. Why not? You got bullied into it. That's fine.

I mean, like... There's no movies left. Night and Day and wildcard you got? Yeah. Okay. So you still have 80s left. I do but you know. There's no 80s movies left. There is. There's one. Well there's one. There's two. There's two left. It's my turn to draft? Yeah. Yes. So I'm doing wildcard. I'm taking legend. Oh my god. Oh my god. Go on. So it's begun. Oh my God.

Oh my God. You could have picked anything. You could have picked anything. You could have like Mission Impossible 3, 2. But I'm picking Legend. It's fine. It's like, honestly, like I don't like Legend. So me having to pick it would have been dishonest.

So sure. Tim Curry is incredible in Legend. I love what Tim Curry's up to. The rest of the movie I don't like at all. I think Legend is cool. I like Unicorns. Ridley Scott. Ridley Scott.

I think Legend is cool. And it's a movie that I've watched a lot. It was gonna be between Legend and Oblivion for my wild card. And I don't think I could have Oblivion on my team, even though I like Oblivion. I think Oblivion was okay. Are you an effective teen? That's what she says. That's what she says.

Oblivion is an important movie because without oblivion we don't get Top Gun Maverick because Joseph Kaczynski directs him in that movie. I'm taking Ghost Protocol. I was hoping it would be on the board. Yeah. I love to agree. Good value. Yeah. I could have taken it from you for 21st century, but I did not do that. I like that. I could have taken it in wild card and I did it mostly because you shamed me. Well, you did a three minute preamble for night and day. Excuse me for talking on a podcast.

It was like, like on the bachelor when they seem like they're going to propose and then they're like, they do the, but I don't feel like I'm up there in the jury. Everything I ever wanted in a Cameron Diaz movie. I was moved by your performance. I'm so happy I'm in this position right now. But, but, but Ghost Paracol has the building scene. Yeah. And also as Paul Patton, who I think is building scene. Yeah. Virg Kaleetha. And also has Paul Patton, who I think is just smoking.

Yeah. He's really like her. And also Lea Cidio. Yeah. And Josh Holloway. And also didn't revive the franchise, but I think three was pretty polarizing. And then Ghost Protocol is after. Ghost Protocol is where Renner comes in, right?

Yeah. Yeah. It was going to be the attempted handoff. And then he didn't, he was like, ah, I actually I'm gonna hold it. I like it It's good. It's my third favorite Ghost Protocol didn't revive the franchise, but it's a very important one, Jimmy Yeah, it kind of it shows that it can be a long-running. It's durable. Yeah, it got a little younger a little sexier Yeah, you know got all the old guys out of it. So Ghost Protocol was very important in it So this is my last pick?

Yeah, you're done. It's your last pick, Wild Card. I mean, Reacher 2 is still out there. This is really tough having the last pick in this draft. It's not a deal. Three minute Amanda prelim and then not take Reacher 2. I think going first was the worst position. Yeah, I mean I didn't want it. All the things to be mad about that I talked

about a film for three minutes. Was it mad? Confused. Don't say that I'm mad. I wasn't mad. You'd be mad if I took Losing It with Tom Cruise right now. Which I think is the last 80's movie. There's one more. There is one more. Losing It and Endless Love. Two classics. Well, shit. I mean, if you're going to do Oblivion, it's pretty good.

Did that get taken yet? No. What was the plot of Oblivion? It's the little globes that fly around and then Morgan Freeman's got all the books underground. They're living in a post-apocalyptic world. Yeah. And there's actually a lot of clones of Tom Cruise. And Andrea Riseborough is controlling everything from a little tower. From a tower. And you think that the towers are good guys, towers are bad guys, the aliens are... Yeah, I like that. I'm gonna take that as my wild card. I only saw it once, but I think it's good value. Did think about Rock of Ages there. It's a reprehensible movie.

It's really bad. It's like fucking terrible. I think it's his worst film. It's really awful. So I could do it. That's the one movie that needs to go undrafted in this. The undrafted list is going to be really fun. Made 46, so six aren't getting drafted. this. The undrafted list is going to be really fun. We made 46, so six aren't getting drafted. Yes. Although one of them is the final is the new Mission Impossible. So that's five movies then basically that have come out. What a list that's going to be. We're almost there. I've got two left, two picks left. No, one pick. 21st. What was, I didn't pick Wild Card. Did we skip you? I think you might've skipped me, but it doesn't matter. No, we didn't skip you.

I see CRO. Oh, I think you did get skipped. Bill skipped you. I didn't skip you. That's all right. I'm going to stand by my original bit and I'm going to go Valkyrie for 21st century. Okay. Then we're going to go right back to you.

Do you want to pontificate now on defending the perspective? I keep looking for funny things to say, but they're all like Bryan Singer quotes, so I'm just gonna skip. Yeah. I'm gonna skip. Great. Congrats on that.

He did call Von Stauffenberg a humanist. A humanist. Okay. Certainly. Great. And my wild card. I wish we could do kind of like fun stuff, you know, outside of the feature films. What were you going to do?

I was going to do the Paris Olympic stunt. Oh yeah, that's a good one. That would be... Also, Tom Cruise doing a sport? Skydiving a sport? Yes. I think so. You could know, Tom Cruise pop culture moment

could have been a category. Yeah, I would go what was it 90 or 2000 VMAs with Stiller. It's a big one. I was on cruise and the Tom Cruise stunt double Tom Cruise CR 00 Z. Sure. Uh, so yeah, I just get another pick. You can pick a film. Yeah, I'll go. Nobody picked it. I guess I'll do Mission 2. Okay, great. John Woo, motorcycle fight.

Worth it alone. Movies having a little bit of a resurgence. Yeah. People are revisiting whether or not Mission 2 was as bad as it was. And he's returned to that hair too. He has. I like John Woo. So yeah.

Yeah. I don't mind it. He has. I like John Woo's, so yeah. I don't mind it. Good value. Could be worse. You could be Amanda looking at an 80s movie. You could be me about to take endless love in 80s. So. Is that what you're going to do?

How many minutes was he even in on this one? He's in like three scenes, right? I think it's like two scenes. No, I watched them. I watched the two scenes. Yeah, but it's kind of. What does he do? What's his part?

He like tells, he gives the guy the idea to burn the house down. Yes. Oh. Yeah. Billy. He plays Billy. What a fucked movie. Do you know who directed the film Endless Love? I do.

Italian cinema master Franco Zeffirelli of Romeo and Juliet fame. Wow. That's the first, is it the first movie the crew's made of Romeo and Juliet fame. Wow. That's the first, is it the first movie the crew's made? I think it is. Yeah. I think it's before Luz in it. Incredible theme song though.

Very popular. Yeah, this also, Endless Love was also eligible in Oscar nominee. Is it Donna Summer? Who sings that song? No, it was Lana Richie and Diana Ross. Diana Ross. Oh, right.

Yes, yes. My movie. Okay, well. My love. My love, my love. What are you gonna pick? You choose? It's an emotional one. Oh.

You guys skipped Van. Oh, we skipped Van again? Oh, we skipped Van. No, you didn't. And Van still has to do Blockbuster. Blockbuster. Is there any Blockbusters left? Interview with a Vampire is one.

And it's the one movie. Yeah. I know it. I know it's the one that you got on the list. I thought that I, are you sure I didn't pick Blockbuster? I'm positive. Cause also you didn't, you have a whole other category still. We, we, we just skipped over you. Chris just picked his last one.

Then there would be you next, then Amanda, and then Sean would finish. We got a little out of sorts in the end there. Cause Bill went ahead of Chris and then Chris went to Amanda. So you have an interview with a vampire. Yeah. You got endless love. You got MI2.

And Valkyrie. And Valkyrie. Okay, can I make a request? I have another pick left. I know, but this is just a personal thing. When you guys do the social card, don't make it seem like I drafted Valkyrie first. Should we just go eight Valkyries for you?

Would that be more accurate to your taste? Okay, Van gets interview with the vampire. I mean, let's just talk about what's left for the last pick for my wild card. Okay. Losing it, still on the board. Lions for lambs, still on the board. Awful. Your beloved.

Yeah. Rock of Ages, still on the board. Terrible. Never seen it. Won't see it. Really tough Aniston performance. The Mummy, still on the board. Terrible. Never seen it. Won't see it. Really tough Aniston performance. The Mummy, still on the board. Fucking. Abominable. Terrible movie.

Hated it. And Jack Reacher, Never Go Back. Oh, you have to. Honestly, you gotta. It is obviously. It is obviously gonna be. You got you. Jack Reacher, Never Go Back.

Oh, wait a minute. I almost took it. I should have taken Jack Reacher, Never Go Back. It didn't cross 100 mil. Yeah. Really? Yeah. It was kind of bombed, didn't it? It did.

It did kind of bomb. Interesting. I think you and I saw it in the- Did we see two? I thought we saw one in the theaters. I think I saw two with you maybe in the theater. We definitely saw it in theaters. It made 58 million domestic.

Oh, so that's a huge bomb. It was a big bomb. But that gives me two Ed Zwick movies on my board. Wow. Double Zwick. OK. Those are some bad movies, by the way. We can't do girlfriends as the last category?

Go ahead, Sean. Love interests. Love interests. 80s Mimi Rogers. No question. OK, are we doing Snake? It's a fastball down the middle for me. Is it Van or Chris? Van. I'll go. It's Van. that's okay. Are we doing snake? Is it banner Chris yeah, I'll go it's it's van it's van. Okay. I mean I just man. Yeah. Um, I

Have to go on a day on this thing. I Okay, I mean we over Kidman Yeah, I got Kidman. I mean we're Australians. Well, I just you guys what are we based as you weren't in the Kidman? I'm say I just don't like him, like her for him. Is this like a Valkyrie situation where like, if it could be your version of Kidman, then she would be the hero that you wanted? I'm going to go, I have two picks. I'm going to go DeMorde, Katie Holmes.

See, I wouldn't, I wouldn't take that. That's right. Cause Harry Dean Stanton showed up on the set and was like, stop fucking around with Rebecca DiMorde and they still went through it. Did he ever take a trip around the block with Salma Hayek? Was that ever a thing? I'm Googling Tom Cruise tating history right now. Give us some names that we didn't know.

Did he ever? Like, you know what? Like a Daphne Zuniga in there or something. Are we going back around? Because he was rumored with Haley Atwell. I just, I said, who is another of my, like, I like, I would marry Haley Atwell. The logical conclusion from Mimi Rogers. She is like the, she is the sequel.

You know why? You know why. What are the reasons Sean? The reasons are the stunning brunette beauty of these two wonderful, talented athletes. I didn't realize that. That's the only reason why. I got you. Yeah.

And the tremendous chemistry that they share with Thomas Mappethorpe. Yeah. You ever see the Rapture with Mimi Rogers? Of course. Yeah. It's written by Michael Tolkin. What other girlfriends do we miss? What's going on with you?

Oh, it's remember when he and Shakira were quote unquote dating because they were photographed together at like the one of the F1 events. Oh, they like went on a date? Yeah, that was after, right, the jam or whatever. Who else? Let's see. We've got Ana D'Armas on here. Cher apparently. Nice.

In the, in the eighties. She's probably going undrafted right and oh that's Bruce Springsteen's Patty Patty Sculpha oh yeah what that's what I'm looking at a photo after de Morde and before Cher Heather Locklear oh Heather Heather we should have that Fairfax it here we should draft Heather Locklear? Oh Heather. Heather Locklear. No we should do- Look at that fair-faceted hair. We should draft Heather Locklear's love interests. Because she's got the best lady roster of almost anyone.

She ended up with Jack Wagner. Lady roster. Lady rosters. We never give the sisters the ladies. Sambora, is that a W for her? I'm not so sure. So are you going to recap? I am going to recap.

I just want to point out one. First of all, my team sucks. This is a pretty roster for me on the Tom Cruise movie draft. Two, the five movies that went undrafted officially were Losing It, Endless Love, Lions for Lambs. No, I drafted Endless Love. She took Endless Love. So what am I forgetting? Losing It, Lions for Lambs, The Mummy, Rock of Ages.

What's the fifth one that I'm not thinking of? Scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. Because all the Mission movies went. I have to pick the fifth one that I'm not thinking of. Scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. Cause all the mission movies went. Austin Powers and Kill the Remember. Yeah, you should have taken that. Fuck me.

Yeah. No, no. Fuck me. Yeah. I should have thought of that. No! He really, in that, that was like a cameo. He was a cameo himself.

He's a cameo. He's kind of a cameo in Tropic Thunder. It is, no, no, no. It is a cameo in Tropic Thunder. It is, no, no, no. It is a cameo in Tropic Thunder, by the way. Horseshit. But like, but I should have took that. Wild card would have been a fun place to take that. Wild card would have been a fun place to take that.

Okay, let's recap all of our picks. Okay. Since I went first, I'll read mine first. In eighties, I got Risky Business. In nineties, I got A Few Good Men, So Far So Good, 21st Century American Made, Oscar nominee,ky Business. In 90s, I got A Few Good Men, So Far So Good, 21st Century American Maid, Oscar nominee Boron the 4th of July, Mission Impossible, I got Rogue Nation, Tom Cruise Does a Sports Thing, I got All the Right Moves, Blockbuster, I got The Last Samurai, and in Wild Card,

I took Jack Reacher, Never Go Back. I did not expect to be drafting today. Okay, Amanda, what'd you get? It's a really tough start for me. In 80s, endless love. In 90s, Magnolia. 21st century, edge of tomorrow. Oscar nominee, Mission Impossible, dead reckoning. Mission Impossible, Mission Impossible.

Tom Cruise does a sports thing, War of the Worlds, Blockbuster, Top Gun Maverick, and wild card, Just For Bill, night and day. You got pretty close to heaven there. You did a good job. It's, I mean, in the middle it's okay. Everybody has two or three. No, I've got a couple that I just really

didn't want to go that way. Okay, Van, you're up next. Bob's gotta read mine off because I wasn't writing them down. I'm looking at them. All right, let me see. Okay. Where are we at?

80s. 80s, I got Cocktail. 90s. Yes, yes. I got Far and Away. 21st Century, I got Collateral. Oscar nominee, I got Vanilla Sky. Mission Impossible, I got Mission Impossible Fallout. Tom Cruise does the sports thing. I have Days of Thunder. Blockbuster, I have Interfute. Wildcard, I have a legend.

I feel good about my team. I'd sign even a playoff team. I feel good about my team. CR, what did you get? In the 80s, I have the outsiders. In the 90s, I have ISWOD shut. In the 21st century, I have Valkyrie. I love Nazis.

In Oscar nominee, I have the firm. In Mission nominee, I have The Firm. In Mission Impossible, I have Mission Impossible 3. In Tom Cruise Does a Sports Thing, I have Color of Money. In Blockbuster, I have Minority Report. And in Wildcard, I have Mission Impossible 2. I was not aware of the Valkyrie discourse. What's that? I wasn't aware of the Valkyrie.

It's just a bit. It's just a... Oh. Yeah. It's just... It's like, if he makes it seem like I'm way outside of the conventional wisdom, it freaks me out so much that I don't almost don't pick it, but I'm sticking with MI3 and I'm sticking with Valkyrie. There you go. Bill, what'd you get?

80s taps, 90s Jerry Maguire, 21st century Jack Reacher, Oscar, Rainman actually won the Oscar, Mission Impossible, Ghost Protocol, Tom Cruise does the sports thing, Top Gun, Blockbuster, Tropic Thunder, Wildcard, Oblivion. Bill won. Where's my camera? Send the trophy to my family. I do think Bill won.

Yeah, Bill won. And this is a case where unfortunately being at the turn was the best scenario. Did you enjoy this many categories? You bitched and moaned, but you got the best situation. You guys are doing your artsy fartsy picks and I was just taking winners. Artsy fartsy? Yeah. Artsy fartsy picks that I took.

Top Gun fell to five or six. I mean, I took Top Gun Maverick. It's the most important Tom Cruise movie. She took Maverick though. I took Maverick. I mean, it's in the universe. Top Gun? It's not that good.

I'm sorry for saying. It's pretty good. It's not one of my movies. It's just not. What? This is, was I on that rewatchable? It's not a movie I ever had passion for, honestly. I love a lot of other Tony Scott movies.

You don't really like it when vehicles go fast. That doesn't, in general, that doesn't speak to you. Because he's also out on Fast and Furious, he's out on Top Gun. Save the world at the end of the movie. I think it's one of those movies where it's reputation culturally far exceeds its quality. Interesting, so of the Tony Scott movies,

you don't think, like what's your Tony Scott jam? What are your Tony Scott jam? Crimson Tide for sure. Trumance for sure. Is Crimson Tide better than Top Gun? I would much rather watch Crimson Tide personally. Probably better, right? As a movie, yeah.

But like I would even prefer like Enemy of the State to Top Gun. Like I know why Top Gun is huge and I get it's importance. It also wasn't, I was three when it came out. It didn't hit for me at the same time. So nothing against it. Not a patriot. Not a humanist.

Is Valkyrie your top gun? Any closing thoughts? You feel good? Everybody feel good about this draft? Did you enjoy this many categories? It's hard. Yeah. Yeah. It was challenging.

Least rock of ages didn't get drafted. Feel good about that? Yeah, probably seven categories instead of eight. Yeah, we could have just taken wild card off the board and been fine. Yeah. Cause Psalm Cruise does a sports thing, it's kind of your cool wild card-y. So it's like a percentage of the amount of movies somebody made versus the amount of movies you'd want to draft and it should probably be around 75%. I think that would actually be pretty good.

Cruise is unusual. I mean, we could have gotten through five categories fully and everybody I think would have been at least content. Oh yeah. Right there with their picks. So part of the reason why I wanted to do it is because put a little pressure on the scenario. I'm surprised it didn't break. You know, I did think that there was-

We both could have broken him. Yes. And we chose not to. I think you should have. I would have done it't break. You know, I did think that there was- We both could have broken him. Yes. Let me show us that too. I think you should have. I would have done it. Well, I know, but you are a guest. That's why we're not like you. You thought about it though.

Yeah. Sure. I did. I learned that from him. That was actually part of the three-minute monologue, but you weren't listening to that. I was trying to emotionally prepare you. That's okay. Can I say that I don't think I've ever seen Night and Away?

Night and Day? Night and Day? Sure seen Night and Away? Night and Day? Night and Day? Sure. Far and Away? Far and Away and Night and Day. That would be a hell of a mashup. It would be good if they just started remixing his movies. What if he was Irish in Night and Day?

Yeah, like when they mix music. What was the plot of Night and Day? He is, he's like a, not CIA, but like undercover agent, special agent, and she fixes cars for a living. And she somehow gets roped into the, like his, not his mission, but the people who are out to get him think that she's working with him. So-

Let me ask you a question. This is a weird pairing. Should night and day have been eligible in Tom Cruise as a sports thing? Cause they run with the bulls in the movie. Oh, I just think that's a stunt. That's not a sport. Yeah. That's a sport.

Bulls is a sport. No, it's just fear. It's just running from a cultural tradition. Are you trying to make me make fun of Castilian tradition? No, I'm not doing that. Tell us more. Tell us more Colonel Klaus. fun of Castilian tradition? No, I'm not doing that. Tell us more. Tell us more Colonel Klaus.

Forever more CR. When we do Final Destination Bloodlines, I'm definitely wearing an eyepatch without any mentioning it. I'm Sean Fantasy. Here's Colonel Von Stauffenberg. Bill, Van, Chris, Amanda, thank you so much. Thanks for having us. Thanks for Bobby Wagner. Thanks to Jack Sanders for his work on this episode. Next week, Chris did tease it. We are talking about Final Destination Bloodline.

We're also ranking every single kill in the history of the Final Destination franchise. Oh my god. I've been doing my research. Tremendous undertaking. It's like one of the most clear number one seeds since in a long time for me. Are you referring to an opening sequence in one of the films? Yes. Okay. No giveaways there. Guys, thank you. This was fun. See you next week. you