The Biggest Problem in the Universe: Uncucked - Episode 59

Episode Date: May 26, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:09 Welcome to the biggest problem in the universe, the show where we discuss every problem in the universe from ants to AIDS. With over 3.2 million downloads, this is the only show where you decide what should or shouldn't be on the big list of problems. I am Mad Oxwell with me as Dick Masterson. Hey, what's up, buddy? Welcome back. Did you notice that intro? I left off Sean, our audio engineer. He's not here. He's not here today.
Starting point is 00:00:32 No. He sent me a weird text right before, last night when we were setting up the time to record. And he said he had to... had to go be in a penis contest. Yeah, a penis contest at the penis fair. At the penis fair, exactly. Yeah, he's at the penis fair right now. We have no idea where this is taking place or what happens at the penis fair, but Sean is there right now. Yeah. Yeah. He's also not editing this episode. No. You know, because you can hear that last sentence. So I don't know if he's, if he's competing in it, if he's judging it,
Starting point is 00:01:07 or if he's just cooking up a penis-related dish at the penis fair. But he's there. If you're at the penis fair, go ahead and say hi to him. Yeah, they need a lot of judges. They have a lot of things that need to be tasted at the penis fair. Is that what you think he's doing? A gay joke? No, that's not necessarily gay.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I mean, Sean is straight. You can still taste penises and be straight. That's true. That's true. The only difference between a straight guy and a gay guy if you taste a penis pie is that you enjoy it. One of them enjoys it. Well, let's see what the Supreme Court has to say about it.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I don't even want a way in. I don't even want a way in. It doesn't matter. Whatever the Supreme Court says. That's the law. Well, it's done. It's done. Big week this week.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Big week this week. All right, speaking of big weeks, what happened last week? Did free water cups beat out anti-intellectualism? No. It should have. No. Free water cups did not beat out anti-intellectualism. Anti-intellectualism was the number one problem from last week.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Did pretty well. I was bringing it in. I didn't even have time in the episode last time because the conversation got derailed. But I was trying to, at some point, make a case for our listeners being anti-intellectual for voting up social justice warriors higher than real problems,
Starting point is 00:02:23 actual real problems on the list, like hunger and obesity. Yeah, but that's the beauty of this show, isn't it? Is it? You get to see what everybody's private priorities are. You know? Like, let's be honest. Problems that are thousands of miles away from us are just not as important as the problems that are at our front door. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:45 That's the way we're built. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. I am. You are. That's absolutely, there is something absolutely wrong with that. Well, I don't know, Maddox? Yeah. Do you live by that as well?
Starting point is 00:02:57 Dick, that is the problem. That is why social justice warriors are so infuriating is because they're sitting here complaining about this minutia. when they could be tackling actual things that are affecting millions and millions of women in horrific ways, like female genital mutilation. I see zero articles on Facebook about that every week, but I see hundreds of articles every month about man spreading and gawking and cat-calling and all the shit. I see what you're saying, and I agree with you, but I will say this. As the problems get larger in scope, like when you're talking about female genital mutilation,
Starting point is 00:03:34 versus something like, I don't know, free water cups. Yeah. These solutions also get incredibly complicated. Like if you were to say, all right, everybody, we all have decided that female FGM is a big problem. Yeah. What are we going to do about it? Half of those people are going to say, it's because of Islam. And then you're going to go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, okay, let's solve something else.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I just bit off a big old matzabal. Do you see what I'm saying? It's not as easy as saying let's fix it when the solution. is so complicated. It's not, Dick. The solution is ban it. That's what Nigeria just did. Because of me, you're welcome, everyone.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I did it. Well, I banned female genital mutilation in Nigeria because of my podcast episode. I brought it in as a problem. The president of Nigeria, big fan, he calls into the show. I'm surprised he hasn't called in yet. Speaking of...
Starting point is 00:04:25 Yeah, he hasn't called it yet. We are expecting a call from the president of Nigeria any day. Warm up those accents, boys and girls. Yeah. No, you just ban it. It's not just Islam. It's the majority of Islam does not practice female genital mutilation. It is a cultural, it is a cultural thing.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Okay. So you ban it like you ban marijuana and like all other crimes? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like just because you ban it doesn't mean people stop doing it. Well, okay, hold on. That's not true. If you ban it, like first of all, marijuana is nothing like female genital amelation. That's a bad analogy.
Starting point is 00:05:04 But it's almost the opposite. It's almost the exact opposite. It's not the exact opposite. You don't put a joint in a child's vagina and call it a day. It doesn't fix things. Child, please. It's gross when you say it like that. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:19 No, Dick, it is a problem that can be solved simply by banning it, and that's not going to make it entirely go away, sure. But it will start the cultural trend against it. Yeah. I agree with you. I'm just saying it's not as easy as attack the biggest. problem because the big problems have very complicated solutions that people will defend to the death. Yeah, speaking of cultural trends dick, this week, the Supreme Court turned over the gay marriage
Starting point is 00:05:44 ban. Yeah. And I saw it. Congratulations, gays. Welcome to hell. Yeah. Welcome to trying to dodge this question for the rest of your lives. When are we getting married? Yeah. That was the big joke. I saw Comedy Central Key and Peele had a skid about that. Oh, did they? Yeah, where they were interviewing Keen Peel and I think Peel was like over the top excited and he's like yeah I can't wait to get married and his partner's like well we didn't expect it to happen so fast and then he goes
Starting point is 00:06:10 yeah we're already planning on places and he goes well we're going to talk about it for sure we're going to talk about this yeah and then Stephen Colbert made a joke about that too about how it's now a huge problem for gay guys with commitment issues now that's the biggest problem on the docket
Starting point is 00:06:26 now here's the thing Dick I saw this meme floating around where people were saying my post on Facebook contributed to this hashtag slackivism, right? I think that when you post things on Facebook specifically to change cultural trends, because essentially whether or not we as a culture decide gay marriage is okay is entirely our opinion. There is no natural law forbidding gay guys from getting married, right? Or women from getting married. No, the natural law is against marriage.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Like marriage itself is a perversion of the national. natural law, you might say. I mean, it's against my beliefs. All marriage is against my beliefs. Yeah. I think that we should push to the Supreme Court to get all marriage banned. Well, yeah, I would support that. Anyway, but when it comes to something that just comes down to changing people's minds and perceptions,
Starting point is 00:07:18 I don't think that's lackivism, because there is no other way to do it. Essentially, you could buy a billboard on a very busy intersection and hope that enough people see it and have their minds changed. Or you could do that for free on Facebook. There is no difference. Essentially, you're just trying to change people's minds. Yeah, the gay marriage, it's interesting because there was a sudden public reversal on opinion. Oh, well, I would say in 10 years, like, have you seen,
Starting point is 00:07:44 I would call 10 years in a population of 300 million people, the swing from a lot of people were against it to like so many people are suddenly for it. I would say that that happened in about 10 years and that it was. extremely fast. You think 10 years is fast? Well, for something like that. Maybe. Maybe you're right. Well, we went from a past where like every politician, Obama included, Clinton included,
Starting point is 00:08:12 Schwarzenegger included, all ran on tickets opposing gay marriage. Yeah. Right? And now all of a sudden you have the White House bathed in a rainbow like it's Rainbow Bright's headquarters. And they're like, oh, you guys, hey, nobody remembers when we were all against this, right? Because we're all for it now. I painted the fucking White House.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Like that is a huge cultural shift. It is. It is a huge cultural shift. Yeah, I think that happened relatively fast. If you compare that cultural shift to other ones, like the civil rights movement. Yeah. Yeah, okay, I'll give you that. And I would have liked, this is just me speaking, I would have liked to see it play out more in public. It's cool that it's decided, that it's, you know, over and everybody can celebrate, that it's legal.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Personally, I would have liked to have seen more people convinced the traditional way. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know how public opinion swayed so extremely quickly. Well, the only difference we have between the way that this happened today, now, and in the past cultural shifts that happen, is we have the internet, we have social networks, and we have greater mobility in communication. You are able to hear from the smallest voices with no platform. Some dude sitting in his basement in Utah, for example, can post a the comments or an opinion on the internet. In between his
Starting point is 00:09:33 correspondence. In between writing correspondence to his pen pals. You know, you fucker, the first time I ever did a Twitch stream, all people could talk about was soup. It took over the conversation. People were just talking about what your favorite soup, and then they started talking about clam chowder and chicken noodle.
Starting point is 00:09:49 How do you feel about clam chowder? Good. That's good, okay. Yeah, I like to put Tabasco. Lots of Tabasco in it. Yeah, good, good, good. All right, Dick. I'm sorry to change the topic from the spicy conversation of delicious clam chowder, but I have some sad news to share. One of the reasons I like to do this podcast, and I respect the medium of broadcasting, I've always been a fan of talk radio ever since I was a kid. When I was 12 years old, I would call into talk radio stations
Starting point is 00:10:18 every morning. I'd set my alarm, wake up, and I have a tape at home. I got to find that tape. Oh, yeah. Yeah, of me in sixth grade calling into this radio station. in Utah called the Imagination Station. Right. And as a child, I would call in and talk to the host. He got to know me by first name. Is he still alive? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Would he know you? Like, would he remember those days? I mean, probably not. My voice was different back then. So I called in all the time. I started listening to Talk Radio from a very young age. I listened to Likas and Stern and Phil Hendry and all the local talk stations. One of the things that I like about talk radio is when there is that honest.
Starting point is 00:10:57 and you, it affords you the ability to speak about whatever you want, and it's a really interesting medium. And part of that honesty is just sharing, sharing the host's lives with you guys, right? So something sad happened to me this last week. My sister killed herself. It's, it's really tragic. It's really sad. And I talked to my family, and everyone was affected in a different way. This was my half-sister for my dad's side of the family, if you want to be technical. But, yeah, it's really sad. It was a case of depression. And, you know, without going into too much detail, I'll just say that she was depressed
Starting point is 00:11:40 because it was the anniversary of her partner's passing who died, I think, a year prior. And she just really, really felt depressed about that. And I just want to say, guys, if you are feeling that way, if you're not, have those thoughts, if you have those considerations. I read this somewhere, and I'm not sure it'll help, but why not book a last ticket somewhere, right? Travel. If you're going to kill yourself, kill yourself in another country.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Because when you get there, you might change your mind. You might say, okay, this country's awesome, I'm going to hang on for a little bit longer, or you might get there and say, this country sucks, and it might exacerbate the situation, I don't know, but travel. Don't die with funds in your bank account. Go someplace. That's a good point. Because that's going to get wasted.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Yeah. By some shithead. Yeah. On your casket, guys. Come on. Don't waste it on your airs. That's garbage. There was that guy who was suicidal.
Starting point is 00:12:35 At least bury it with you. Take it with you. Buy some collectibles. Buy a lot of rare Pokemon cards and say, throw it in the casket. It's all fucking mine. Buy a one-of-a-kind thing and bury it with you as a fuck you to everyone else.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Like our limited edition, Ash from Army of Darkness sculpture. that But Sanchez sent us and Randy, Kaya, and their producer, repaired. Randy repaired the, we're going to post this on the website. Ash is completely repaired. We're going to post that on the website. But one last thing I just want to mention about the suicide thing. There was a guy a while back who was suicidal, and he decided to book one last ticket to Mexico,
Starting point is 00:13:12 just go have a weekend in Mexico. He went down and had a threesome with hookers and did a whole bunch of blow. And he decided, you know what, my life's pretty awesome. And he changed his mind. He got an STD, but he changed his mind. Still alive today. Guys, talk to somebody, do something. Book a ticket somewhere, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:33 Suicide affects a lot of people in ways that you don't even understand or realize. It's a cloud that clouds your judgment, and it's temporary. Give it another day, give it another night, wait till the morning. Think clearly. Don't make decisions emotionally. Anyway, that's all I want to say on that. Well, at the very least, by... 10,000 copies of our bonus episode, which is now available on iTunes.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Our most recent bonus episode is finally available on iTunes. Yeah, and Dick, we need to emphasize. I keep getting emails from people saying, hey, it's like 10 bucks in iTunes or seven. That's not our fault. It's not our fault that it does that. iTunes makes you go through this whole stupid thing because it's so long, they default to $9.99 when we publish it, and they make you submit a price change request form over and over until it gets reset.
Starting point is 00:14:23 And then I have to go through CD Baby to do it, and they are taking fucking forever for some reason. You know, Dick, I will say it is your fault in some way because you're an Apple supporter, and this is a shit company with a shit product. They make everything fucking difficult. They make a pain in the ass to use everything, to change anything, to tinker with anything.
Starting point is 00:14:43 All right. They hate it. They hate it when their customers are happy. Okay, I got some voicemails for you. Hey, Matt Knox, now you can get married since this. Supreme Court ruled that gay marriage is in every state now. Right. And Dick, you can go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 00:14:57 The gay porn. It's a gay porn. Legally now. It's a celebration, guys. It's a celebration. Maybe Dick and I will get married. Fuck it. Somebody said that.
Starting point is 00:15:06 No, you would... Man, I got the most amazing health insurance. What would I get out of this relationship? You'd get a great husband. Really? It's cooking me spicy foods every night. I'm shitting my brains out. Spicy buffalo chili, buddy.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, well, we got to talk after the show. This sounds like a good deal. Put that in you, Crow. All right, here's one. I've got a voicemail for my woman. I always play those.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Hey, guys, this is Debra from Boston. Nics, I was listening to the episode of the anti-intill, whatever. But not being smart thing. Oh, my God, who cares? What's the one thing you can't fuck books? Oh, I'm so smart. Go fuck yourself. Dick?
Starting point is 00:15:46 You'll work it right with the thing about the water. It's, like, so funny. Yeah. I love you, and I'll come over and start. on your tiny face anytime. Oh, fuck you're so hard. We'll get chilly everywhere, and I'll even change your sheep faster.
Starting point is 00:15:57 You don't gonna use a condom. If we get a baby, we'll just give it to Maddox and he's so fucking smart and knows how to raise a free baby. Right, Maddox? Get raped. That's right. I am smart. First of all, I was wicked smart
Starting point is 00:16:12 with the water problem, or wicked funny or whatever one it was. A wicked smart, wicked funny. She wants to sit on your tiny face. It's not tiny. I do not have a... A tiny face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:24 It's about the size of a thumbprint. A normal adult thumbprint. All right, calm down. Yeah, why would she want to give me the baby? I just throw it away. I don't know. She didn't think that went through. I guess we're not getting married after all.
Starting point is 00:16:38 You got your new chick from Boston. Maddox, you fuck. Metron? Metron is a girl? Are you fucking? You fucking get me? I know, you fuck. I know, you fuck.
Starting point is 00:16:49 It's relationalism. You son of a bitch. Sammas. Sam it. much of land. It's for a fucking name. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:55 I don't even want to imagine when you're like a fucking street fighter. Great. I want to hear them all. Fuck you. Fuck you. Huh.
Starting point is 00:17:04 How many right now? Swing! What a fucking idiot. He fucked up. I got a comment from Matt Barr. Oh, he's back? I don't know. That's the street fighter challenger.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Oh, is that the guy? Okay. Is he trash talking you? A little bit. Bring it on. You know, at the end of the last episode, I said that whoever, so you were trying to decide
Starting point is 00:17:22 what the, the winner should get. And I said, well, a night with the loser's girlfriend. Yeah, that's a good prize. Or boyfriend if they're gay. Whatever. It's legal now. So Matt Barr, it's legal now. It's legal now to make those jokes. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Matt Barr commented he said, I mean, if Maddox really wants to spend
Starting point is 00:17:39 a night with my right hand, Matt Barr, no girlfriends. Speaking of Street Fighter, Kevin Ward said he turned into your Twitch channel to take notes on how to play Street Fighter 2, or Street Fire Alpha 2 like a badass. That'd be good. this has been his most successful strategy. Hadukin, Hadduken, Hadduken, Hadduken, Hadduken, Hadduken, Haddiken, Haddukin, Haddukin,
Starting point is 00:18:01 He's got about 50 Hadukins there. Yeah. You know what, Dickhead? I was fighting Sagat. Okay? That's how you fight Sagat. Because all he does is spam you with fireballs, and you have to hit fireball with fireball. Either that or alpha counter.
Starting point is 00:18:14 But if he's across the room and you do an alpha counter, you're going to shoot an uppercut in the air, and it leaves you open. Yeah. This guy's an idiot. He doesn't understand the mind. of a pro player. Okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Professor Maddox is my name on Twitch. Professor Maddox. I mean, it's real Maddox is my Twitch account. But I call myself Professor Maddox. You know what the first, what the prefix of professor is? Pro. I'm a pro professor. Not an amateur professor.
Starting point is 00:18:42 No. Well, I did tune into your Twitch. I saw a couple street fighter videos. And I was very impressed, but then it was you lose at the end. And I was like, oh, I thought you were doing great. That was the computer playing. If it said you lose that, the computer must have been playing itself. And recording it and then posing as you?
Starting point is 00:19:01 I guess. A computer imposter? We got some artificial intelligence. I don't know. I got another voicemail about the whole street fighter thing. Great. Hey, Maddox, this Web City Moodyhead again. I have one quick question for you.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Why are you challenging somebody at the most casual of street fighters? Is it because you suck at combos? Is it because all you could do is, fucking Perry like a new Why don't you go play a real man's game? A real man's sport You know what that fucking Sport? It's called Marvel versus
Starting point is 00:19:33 Capcom 2, you fucking casual. Oh, this fucking douche. I know that game. I know Marvel versus Capcom too, and I know the secret to playing that game is to mash the controller with your entire fist. This fucking douche nozzle has the
Starting point is 00:19:48 audacity to call into this show and Tell me to play a non-casual streetfighter. And then the first thing I thought, when I thought casual street fighter, I'm like, well, there's Marvel versus Capcom. That's the most casual of casual fighting games. Next to Smash Brothers, which isn't even a fighting game. Smash Brothers is an experiment and frustration and random button matching.
Starting point is 00:20:10 That's true. It's garbage. And everyone on my chat, Twitch stream says, oh, why don't you play Smash Brothers? Because it's a garbage game, and you're a garbage player for liking it. So this idiot has the balls to call into this. show and suggest I play non-casual and I'm doing air quotes
Starting point is 00:20:26 right now, you get me so fucking mad and I never do this, I look like Nixon now. I can hear the air quotes in your voice. Somehow when anybody ever does air quotes, you can hear it in their voice. Yeah, well I'm doing it with my voice and my fingers right now. And this guys tell me to play non-casual game and to play Capcom versus Street Fowder. Guys,
Starting point is 00:20:42 that is the most casual. That's a fighting game, tourism. That's what that is. These pussies. Why don't you just suggest I play Street Fighter EX, you dips shit? I wish I knew what that was. It's garbage. I got one for me.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Yeah, hi. This is President William Taft. This is how I talk. I'm just calling to make a few points here. Number one, obesity, not a problem. Okay. Thanks, Taft. Second.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Fatest president. Her name is Samas, you stupid motherfucker. And Dick, go fuck yourself. Yeah. All right. Is somebody keeping track of these presidents? Dick, Dick, my favorite female video game character still remains Metroid. One more, one more.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Okay. We got how much of that George Zimmerman conversation made it into the last podcast? Too much, I would say. Too much because it got derailed, Dick. Look, when I mentioned that shit, I just mentioned it as tapestry to illustrate the motivation for Dylan Roof. he himself, in his own words, said that it was the Zimmerman trial that motivated him.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Yeah. So, and then when you were... Which I don't understand why, because Zimmerman got off. Right. Yeah. So how did that motivate him? I mean, he's a racist dipshit. He's ignorant, right?
Starting point is 00:22:10 He's ignorant. He's a moron. And that's why I was building the case for anti-intellectualism is that anti-intellectualism leads to ignorance and racism. Okay. So Dick, when you mention... So here's something that really pissed me off the last episode.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Because it sounded like you were defending Zimmerman. Well, in a way I was. Okay. Well, I'm not saying you're racist, but your opinions align with people who are racist. Well, you know, I like Diet soda, too. There's a lot of racist. No, true. You are not racist, for sure.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I didn't follow the trial with a magnifying glass like everybody does, because I just don't follow that shit. Like it's a, it's like our version of the Gladiator games to me. Right. When those big cases hit, like when the Casey Anthony case hits and when the Zimmerman case hits, I'm like, you're not going to know what happened until several months after the trial. And even then, it's still going to be, well, there's some doubt as to what happened. Yeah. And the George Zimmerman case, specifically people sent versions of events that I found to be more believable than the media story that was at the time.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I brought some of them in, but I don't want to rehash it. Because I feel like if you really want to know what the testimony led to in the George Zimmerman trial, you can just go look it up. Yeah, Dick, I did look it up around that time. Yeah. And here's the nuance that you dipshits were completely missing from that last episode. Uh-huh. Did I ever at once say that I disagreed with the verdict? No.
Starting point is 00:23:38 No. Because I don't. No. I think based on the evidence that they had, they ruled correctly. Right. Because there wasn't enough evidence to convict George Zimmerman. However, the distinction, and this is an important one, is that just because it's legal doesn't mean it's right or just or ethical.
Starting point is 00:23:56 That's the distinction that everybody fucking missed. Because people automatically try to frame this debate into a political one, where it's liberal versus conservative, and the liberals want to take away our guns, and they want to frame this as racism, I don't think that there is enough evidence to prove that Zimmerman was racist. However, there's plenty of evidence to prove that Zimmerman was a hundred, hothead looking for a fight because he's been arrested five times.
Starting point is 00:24:21 And since then, he was arrested for brandishing a shotgun in his apartment. And then it was a domestic dispute. And the cops showed up and he barricaded himself in his apartment with a shotgun. He had to take anger management classes for assaulting a cop. This is the guy you guys are defending. You're giving this dipshit at the benefit of the doubt. It brought out all the closet racists in the comments. Oh, man, I had a heyday arguing with these morons.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Oh, no. Anyway, Dick, I just got a comment from Thomas Coleman. He says, Dick, the image in your head of an anti-intellectual is exactly the problem. That is how most people with a negative view of intelligence see it. A person who calls themselves an intellectual generally is not. Maddox being the obvious exception. The people... Maddox, who can write off the entire libertarian philosophy with one backhanded remark.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Very intellectual. It's not even a remark, Dick. It's one word. It's a theory. Oh, yeah. There you go. Very intellectual of you. What's more about this new idea called libertarianism?
Starting point is 00:25:22 Nope, hate it, stupid libertarians. Go tip your fedora somewhere else, you nerd. I said it's a theory. Very intellectual. It's a theory, buddy. It's an untested theory, by the way. What's the theory? Well, I'll let you explain it someday.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I want to continue this comment. He says, Thomas Coleman, he says, The people who you and many others hate and afterwards extend their hate to actual intellectuals are simply not. I know this is borderline, no true Scotsman territory, but to ascribe such a positive attribute to yourself like that is simply narcissistic and shows that you don't deserve that label. He's talking specifically about the example you gave where you said there's a guy with a Ferrari and all these books in his car in his garage. Jackass. He continues, yeah, that's a
Starting point is 00:26:06 pseudo-intellectual, not an anti-intellectual. And anti-intellectual is a maybe the biggest problem in the universe because it perpetuates ignorance. That was the point. Thank you, Thomas, for picking that up. A short list of problems exacerbated by this are anti-vaxers, female genital mutilation, slacktivism, militarized police, conspiracy dipshits, engineering sexism, armchair
Starting point is 00:26:27 psychologists, social justice warriors, and other inwards. These are all philosophies that spawn from ignorance, Dick, right? Well, see, that's where I kind of disagree. I think the engineering sexism philosophy is part of it's based on business.
Starting point is 00:26:43 It's like a business in this country. to be outraged. Oh, I'll give you that. Part of it probably is. But what percentage? You can't deny that some percentage of it is ignorance. Well, the wage gap one is certainly ignorance. Like, I bet if you sat more people down and said,
Starting point is 00:26:59 look, this is the actual number. If you have a problem with that, it's... William McCormick says, I remember when the 80-mile-per-hour question was, what's heavier? A ton of bricks or a ton of feathers? I saw that. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Pretty funny. Oh, you remember how you said science can't answer why? but it can answer everything else. Oh boy, do you bring in that professor? No, no, I didn't. I brought in some why questions that science can't answer. Okay. Why is the sky blue?
Starting point is 00:27:25 You've got to ask the Bible that? Okay. That's a... Why is water wet? That's a fucking red herring, dick. Why do you go bald? That's a good one. No, it's not that good.
Starting point is 00:27:37 But here's a what question that science can answer. What is the meaning of life? Can't. Well, you said science answers, What, when, where, how. But not why. Okay. So what is the meaning of life?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Sure. I don't know. Great. I get what you're saying now. There were so many armchair linguists in the comment section this time. It was so funny, there was a guy who was arguing that he was, he had a philosophy degree and a physics degree. Wow. And he was saying, well.
Starting point is 00:28:08 It's a double thread. Yeah, double thread of the appeal to authority fallacy for sure. Oh, God. Don't start with me on those fallacies. I hate those fallacies. Anti-intellectual. Anti-intellectual, voted up. No, it's because you don't know why?
Starting point is 00:28:21 Seriously? Here's why. I think anti-intellectualism at its core means objectifying a set of ideas and a philosophy into a package that can be discounted. And that, I think, is a big problem. No, it's not that. It's not that at all. Here, Dick.
Starting point is 00:28:40 No, it is specifically, anti-intellectualism is specifically the, the embrace and celebration of ignorance, and sometimes the lack, it is the absence of critical thinking. That is anti-intellectualism. All right, I think mine sounded better. Are we ready to get to some problems? Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:29:01 You go first this time. I don't want to be accused of filibustering you from your important problems. Maddox, you took, like, your problems somehow start in a ground, like they start on the paper, and then they go around to, like, racism, They make these huge sweeping arcs like a Haley's comet going around the universe. Like it's the cause of everything.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Yeah. Well, it's my fault that the conversation got derailed last time, right? Not the straw man argument, that Zimmerman trial, right? Okay. Fucking George Zimmerman. From beyond the grave. My problem is no smoking. No fumar.
Starting point is 00:29:36 That's my problem. No fumar. What an ass. That was the problem, by the way, Dick, that you were going to bring in last time that we ran out of time. Right. Okay. What? We got a comment.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Now who's derailing what? I just want to mention. Go ahead. Go ahead. In Dick's defense, his original problem was supposed to be of greater significance from last episode. That was now was Natchetech safer work. He commented that. That was the problem that we didn't get to.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Yeah, that was the problem I was going to bring in because it's a big problem, I think. Okay. And it stems from the fact that Hawaii has raised, last week, Hawaii raised the legal smoking age from 18 to 21. Huh. What is, now my, when I hear that, I'm horrified. Instantly horrified. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:22 What is your initial impression of that? Did you know that, first of all? I knew that only because you mentioned it to me, and I don't care. I sent it out of my libertarian newsletter. Attention, libertarinos. Yeah, it's just called every email I get from you. Dix always putting some libertarian philosophy in his signature. That's, uh, anyway, no, when I, when I, when I,
Starting point is 00:30:44 Like brainwashing, I'll sneak it in there. Yeah, I'm like, huh, maybe deregulation is a solution. No, when I heard that, Dick, I just thought, huh, okay, don't give a shit. Don't give a shit. I am well, I'm happy that we are well on the way towards illegalizing cigarettes. Why? Because it has a net effect on public health, and since we are moving towards universal health care, you shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:31:13 You're killing me. You shouldn't. Buddy, you're killing me. Are you serious? Do you really think that? Yes. So you really think that, I mean, you're protecting people from themselves, and now you've made it, you've made it a financial decision.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Yeah. Because you don't want to financially support them when they've got lung cancer and emphysema and stuff. Now it's your pocketbook that they're affecting. Right. Hey, you want to smoke? God bless, man. Go fucking smoke. Do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:31:40 You want to be a fat ass. Eat whatever you want. Live your life. you want. The government shouldn't get involved, right? I'm all for that until it comes to my pocketbook, Dickhead. If it comes to my pocketbook and I have to, I have to subsidize your shitty habit with health care, with higher health care rates because of lung cancer is going up because you're smoking this cancerous piece of shit cigarette, which by the way, Bill, you know, the comedian Bill Hicks? Yeah. He had a, he had a famous routine talking about how he's going to
Starting point is 00:32:06 smoke and smoke and smoking. He doesn't give a fuck and he doesn't give a shit. He died from on cancer. Like a year after he was making a joke. You're like, you're like grinning like you're, like you're happy about this. Like you've got one over on him. No. It's what happened. You do feel superior to him in some way, don't you? In every way. Oh man. I, I really hate everything you just said. Like I really do. Because where does it end? Seriously, where does it, where is it, where does it, where it, where does it end? You shouldn't be letting children drink Coke then. That's a way, that's just as, I brought some numbers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:41 443,000 people die of smoking every year. 598, 600,000 people die of obesity. So if you're talking about saving people's lives and protecting your pocketbook, knocking out smoking is less of a problem, is less important than knocking out, you know, soda. Dick, I follow your logic. And you support it. I am totally on board of it.
Starting point is 00:33:08 100% You are a sick bastard Yeah I get it I understand the logical leap that you're making here And I am totally on board I bought my ticket
Starting point is 00:33:18 I've checked it in I got my luggage in hand I'm ready to top on you yet You have your bayonet And your free V in hand You have your 1984 book in hand Which you didn't take as a satirical take of the state You took it as an instruction book list
Starting point is 00:33:32 It's an instruction book Yeah you've When you read 1984 in high school or college Or whenever you read it whatever weird shirtless, shoeless professor made you read that for the first time. You said, oh, I get it. So this is what we're supposed to do? And he said, oh, God, no.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Absolutely not. That's a description of the most horrifying society there could ever be. And you went, oh, I see. So we should do this but worse. Yeah, okay. Because banning, taking away your cigarettes takes us towards 1984, right? That's like thought control and government override of the media. Oh, buddy, when they come after your video games, you're going to be singing a different
Starting point is 00:34:07 to it. They already have buddy. They try to make video games the big devil after the Columbine shooting. Okay, so this is what bugged me about the no smoking announcement, no Fulmar announcement. The quote from the governor, or the quote from, I don't know, the quote from some bitch at the Department of Health who worked on this. Quote, Dick Masters said, the quote from some bitch at the health department. Fuck her, man, they're taking me my cigarettes. Most people who begin smoking, this is to justify the ban, most people who begin smoking about, 99% start before the age of 21. So this will help our young people delay starting tobacco use,
Starting point is 00:34:44 said Lola Irvin, the administrator of horseshit. So I said, huh, what did she say there? Most people start before the age of 21. So I looked it up on the cancer. On cancer.org, nine out of 10 adult smokers, that's 90% of smokers,
Starting point is 00:35:02 start by the age of 18. Yeah. So it was all really. It was already illegal. It was already more than 90% had started even before the age 18. Right. So this reasoning for the law, first of all, that's a huge disingenuous lie. I agree.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Right? Yeah. Do you take offense to that, at least? What? That she lied? Yes. And that's dishonest. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:35:25 That's dishonest. It's misleading. Okay. It is very misleading. Okay. Here's my point. So this is a law built to protect people from themselves. right? I mean, that's basically what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I mean, that is your libertarian twists on it, right? That's your interpretation. Well, it's just like seatbelts and motorcycle helmets. Like, everybody wraps this stupid financial. They wrap this facade around it, like, well, it's affecting the economy, so that's why we have to protect these people from themselves. But I really think it's just about protecting people from themselves. Like, I really think these governors and pretty much everyone in society was not a smoker,
Starting point is 00:36:05 thinks that they have to stop these people from doing something harmful. I know that you really think that, Dick, and you do this a lot. You say something with a lot of conviction, which makes it sound like you have justified it. But I know what you think, but you're not telling me why you think that. Oh, you want like a thought process, or do you want to study behind why I think that? Well, either one. I want to know, give me some rationale for why you think that we shouldn't legislate things that affect the economy at large. and other people at large, when, say, for example,
Starting point is 00:36:38 somebody who wears a seatbelt, who doesn't wear a seatbelt, goes through the window of their car, they have much more severe injuries and trauma, and that, in turn, causes higher healthcare costs, right? Uh-huh. And everybody foots the bill for that in terms of, even without universal health care,
Starting point is 00:36:53 if that person is insured, which they have to be, by law, then it causes insurance premiums to go up, and everybody collectively has to pay more because you are going through that windshield because you stubbornly refused to wear your seatbelt. I'll tell you why I think it. Because it's a story. It doesn't have any data or statistics behind it.
Starting point is 00:37:14 They don't say exactly how much it increases healthcare, because they have no idea. There's no studies that are presented along with that that says it costs everybody exactly 0.002 cents to go along with that. It's a story that you're emotional, that the emotional part of your brain buys into, while the real reason gets to slide on right under the story. surface, which is, oh, fuck them.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I got to protect these people from this. I'm Jesus. Okay. Everything leads back to I'm Jesus. I'm just saying that's how I think people work. If you give them a little story that they can buy into, they're capable of doing something much worse. You think that just because we don't have that precise number, which I disagree,
Starting point is 00:37:53 I think that if you looked into it, people have probably done this research and found that there is a precise, okay. I looked into the outdoor smoking thing. Okay, you think that it's because people have a Jesus complex. That's the more rational explanation. right for why we are legislating things that uh you know banning cigarettes or forcing people to wear seatbelts it's a jesus complex and forcing people to wear motorcycle helmets yeah okay absolutely well i mean
Starting point is 00:38:15 so the point i was gonna make you think it's insane yeah the first the first novel everybody always writes is either they're either jesus in their novel or they're faust you ever heard that no yeah it's uh i think it's an oscar wild uh quote is either oscar wild or mark twain explain that i don't understand the story that everybody writes every writer writes their first novel they are the character of either Jesus, where they're going through this novel, doing no wrong, and then sacrificing themselves for huge gain, or they're Faus, where they're making a deal with the devil.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Okay. Like, that's what people are. That's what appeals to them. I'm trying to think back to the alphabet of manliness, which one was I? And did I introduce a Jesus narrative or a Fausen narrative in my book? It's definitely Jesus.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I'll help you out with that. Thanks. And if anybody can pull passages where Maddox is crediting himself with miracles, please post them. Anyway, so they're protecting kids who are 18 to 21 from harming themselves, right? Would you say that's accurate? No, that's a spin on it.
Starting point is 00:39:16 But that's directly what she said. Okay, that's fine. That's fine that she said that. But another interpretation is that they are protecting the rest of society from having out-of-control health care costs. I don't think that's what they're saying in this press. Well, she sounds like an idiot. She sounds disingenuous. She sounds like a liar.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Okay, but go on with your point. You said that that's... My point is, these kids are... They're old enough at 18 to decide whether or not they can join the military. Right. And get killed. Or kill other people. But they're not old enough to decide whether or not they could smoke.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Hmm. Something about that doesn't ring true to me. I don't know. If I was 18 to 21, I would be pretty fucking pissed that I'm not allowed to do any of these, quote, unquote, self-harmful things. but I am allowed to march around in the dirt on the other side of the world with an M-16 or whatever they're using and, I don't know, spray bullets into quote-unquote bad guys. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:16 I would be pretty pissed about that. Yeah. But they don't have kids, they can't fight back. 18 to 21? Who cares? Right? Who cares that they're chipping it away? Right.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Who cares that they're not allowed to smoke? Yeah. I mean, if you are old enough to make those type of decisions to join the Army, Which, by the way, you have to. There's still selective service in this country. You have to enlist. Right? You don't have to enlist.
Starting point is 00:40:39 You have to register for the draft. Right, yeah. You have to register for the draft. That's selective service. Yeah. But, I mean, they could bring it back at any time. Sure. Something that still happens.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yeah. So your argument is that if you're old enough to do that, if you're old enough to fight our wars, you should be old enough to smoke. Is that your argument? Yeah. If you're old enough to decide whether or not your life means joining the army, you're old enough to decide whether or not you could smoke and drink.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I agree with that. So would you be suggesting that they raise the minimum age for the selective service to 21? No. You would not be in favor of that. No, because I think you need kids in the army because they have a poor conception of mortality, especially their own. I don't think you can have an army of 21-plus-year-olds. I think you need immature people who don't understand the choice they're making. Oh, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:41:28 So you need immature people who don't understand the choice they're making, but you're okay with having these immature people make decisions that will affect their lives, their personal health for the rest of their lives. One way or the other, pick. You can't have the Army one be out of sync with the smoking one. Well, the legal age limit for alcohol is also 21. Are you also opposed to that? Of course.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Okay. You think it should be lowered. Our kids, when our parents were around, it was 18. Yeah. They turned out fine. What happened? Yeah, I don't know, Dick. I've heard an argument made that they should,
Starting point is 00:42:01 lower the alcohol limit because when alcohol becomes a thing that you are legally allowed to do, everyone goes nuts at the age 21. Right. They did over drink, they overdo it. And there's even, I've even read articles that make a case for lowering the alcohol age limit to potentially even reduce sexual assault on college campuses because these happen when people get really drunk at parties. That's the majority, it's an acquaintance. It's somebody you know it happens at parties. So if they lowered the limit and then had it chaperoned with adults that were trying to keep the kids in line, let them drink, but just make sure that it doesn't get out of hand, and let them drink at a younger age so it's not such a novelty.
Starting point is 00:42:39 It's not so exciting when they turn older. That it could potentially have a better positive net effect. Because I've been to Europe. I've been to Italy where the drinking age, I think, is 16. And I remember going to a bar and a bunch of kids around me. I'm like, this is awesome. Weird. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:42:55 It's really weird. Yeah. But then. they have a different philosophy. They approach alcohol in a different way. They don't freak out about it. They don't give a shit. By the time they're adults,
Starting point is 00:43:05 they've had alcohol for a good chunk, like a quarter of their lives, and they're not going to overdo it. They're not going to go nuts with it. They have a glass of wine with dinner, and they call it a night, unlike Americans who go bonkers. Binge drinking.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Binge drinking. Yeah. Because it's not like, it doesn't mean you're an adult over there. Yeah. It means you're an adult here, which means you go fucking crazy with it, because you have this weird psychic attachment to it.
Starting point is 00:43:27 But, all right. Continuing with this smoking thing. So I found a guy, Ronald Bayer, who's a professor at Columbia University, who says that all the evidence they have about harm to non-smokers when you're out in public. You know how they're banning smoking in public now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Like you're walking down the street in Burbank, you can't smoke. Sure. You can buy a cigar. You can't walk outside and smoking. Okay. And Burbank's the city in California. Yeah. Again, this is under the guys.
Starting point is 00:43:57 of helping the economy, right? Because you guys are paying for health care now. So you'd think you'd need some evidence to back that up, right? Sure, sure. He says it doesn't exist. Okay. This guy who's your professor, right? It doesn't exist or it hasn't been found.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Extremely weak. Extremely weak. So I brought it in. I brought it in. A typical cigarette, this study from Stanford, lasts about 10 minutes. They found that if you're within two feet downwind of a smoker, you may be exposed to pollutant concentrations
Starting point is 00:44:25 that exceed 500 mills. of particulate matter, 2.5 and over, if you're exposed multiple times to multiple cigarettes over several hours in an outdoor pub, so you're at an outdoor pub drinking for several hours, right? Directly downwind two feet away from a smoker. Yeah. Does that sound reasonable to you, first of all? Reasonable in what capacity?
Starting point is 00:44:54 Are you saying that that number, that's a likely scenario? Yeah, that's closer than we are right now, where the wind is blowing directly from you to me. Dick, when I'm standing around smokers, it's closer than that. It's even closer than we are right now. It's usually when I'm standing around in a circle at a bar because I'm talking to someone,
Starting point is 00:45:12 they need to step outside to smoke because they have this addiction. Okay, that's why. Even then, you get 35 micrograms or more of particulate smoking matter, of whatever, bad stuff. Okay. Clean air has less than 20 micrograms. So it's only 15 more.
Starting point is 00:45:29 15 more, yeah. That's not that much. Even for the crazy scenario they're describing where you're two feet away and someone's blowing smoke right into your mouth. It's almost 50% more, Dick. That's quite a bit. That doesn't seem like a lot to me. Clean air?
Starting point is 00:45:43 Clean air? Less than 20. Clean air has less than 20. Yeah. So, I mean, less than 20, what is that? 18? Is it 15? Is it 10? Because if it's 15, I don't know. And it's 30, that's double.
Starting point is 00:45:55 It's 100% more. Yeah. It's a lot. Well, that doesn't seem like a lot to me, and this professor agrees with me. Well, apparently, the cancer rates... Okay, I get it, but apparently the cancer rates disagree with you. The people who smoke get proportionally more cancer, lung cancer. No one's saying cigarettes aren't bad.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Yeah. They're just saying, do they really have to be banned outside at the beach? Is there any real evidence for it, or are we just protecting everybody for themselves? Okay, that guy's talking about secondhand smoke. We're talking specifically about smoking as a habit in general, because, you can't argue that it's not unhealthy. You can't argue that it doesn't increase cancer rates. And then you can't argue that that has a net effect on the economy
Starting point is 00:46:39 because those people are more of a drain. They have to have chemo. They have to sit there in the hospital. They get tracheotomy. They get all sorts of nasty shit that happens to them. Yeah. And then we have to pay for it. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:46:50 And the natural extension of the stick, your little alarmism at the top of this problem or you're talking about, well, what about obesity and fat people? Yeah. Yes. Tax them. Here's the thing. You want to be fat, be fat.
Starting point is 00:47:02 But you have to pay a transportation tax, buddy. You fly in a flight, you weigh twice as much as another passenger. Guess what? You should pay 20% more. You get a fat tax. You should pay more at the pumps, too. Because when you're driving your car around and you're carrying around an extra 100 or 200 pounds of fat with you, well, that's a drag on your car, isn't it, dickhead?
Starting point is 00:47:24 That means you have to, you have less fuel. efficiency. That means you're using more of the pump, you're using more at the grocery store, you should pay for it. And I'm okay with that. Live your life how you want, but don't make me, don't make me subsidize your shitty lifestyle. All right, that's my problem. No fumar. No fumar. Dick, doesn't that mean... Yeah, it means no farting. No farting. Dick, I got a real, I got a real problem. Let's get to a real problem this week, huh? Biggest problem in the universe is selfie sticks. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Here, there we go. Smart. Selfie sticks. Something less, uh, less obtrusive than bicycles. Dick. Why are you such an asshole? Already. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Go ahead. I know this is going to, I'm just, I'm, I'm bracing for a defensive selfie sticks. Okay? Uh, first of all, they're not new. Did you know that selfie sticks? The first instance of a selfie stick was made in 1983. Yeah, Minota. Minota Corporation had a camera called a disc seven with a,
Starting point is 00:48:25 with a built-in selfie stick. The telescopic extender for cameras was patented in 1983, and then there was a book that came out in 1995 called 101 Unuseless Japanese Inventions. Have you ever seen this book, Dick? No. It's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I remember going to bookstores and reading this book over and over again. They had all these crazy Japanese inventions that they market in Japan that are totally unuseless, as they call it. What does that mean? They're useless. They're useless.
Starting point is 00:48:55 but they do something? Kind of. Like, for example, here's one of the classic inventions from this book. It's a hat that you wear that is also an umbrella. Oh, okay. It's stupid. It's a silly little... Another one is they have grapefruit goggles, I think, was something they marketed in this.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Some, like, weird pair of glasses you put on that have these pinholes that protect your eyes in case a grapefruit squirts you in the eyes or something. Oh, okay. Just silly, stupid inventions. You know. Gags. Yeah. I'm not sure they're even gags.
Starting point is 00:49:29 They're just novelty. Well, one of them in this book was a selfie stick in 1995. It was included in this book of stupid shit. Then Time Magazine in 2014 listed the selfie stick as one of the 25 best inventions of 2014. I don't understand what they do. Like, I've been using my arm since before there was LCDs on screens. Yeah. Like, that was my thing.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I was really good at taking selfie. Remember when you couldn't see what you were? taking pictures of. Right. You just hold it out and like kind of angle it. Yeah. That was pretty good at that. And then they got the screens to come along.
Starting point is 00:50:02 What does a selfie stick do? Selfie stick is just an extender. You know what Dick? Here's what a selfie stick is. It's a megaphone for narcissism. Oh. It's a sidekick to self-absorption. That's what a selfie stick does.
Starting point is 00:50:14 That's what a selfie stick is. It's just, it's like your tool. It's like your briefcase full of tools for narcissism. You might as well carry around makeup, a lighting, You might as well carry around some reflectors. A crew following you around to document your life because it's so fucking important to get a really good shot of you. You need that selfie stick extender so you can get more of you in the picture, don't you dip shit.
Starting point is 00:50:41 And you know what it is, Dick? Selfie sticks wall us off from communication with other people. Because you don't have to ask somebody else to take a picture. You don't have to be social. It protects your delicate sensibilities from having to go up to somebody and say, hey man, you mind taking a photo of me? Yeah, I agree with you there. You might meet somebody, dickheads.
Starting point is 00:50:59 You might talk to another fucking human being, and who knows, maybe meet your partner in life, maybe network with somebody, get to know a stranger, find out what they're doing. Oh, I got a good dick tip for you. I was, I met, I started talking to these girls a couple weeks ago, walking down Hollywood. It was nighttime, so I was out drinking with my life coach.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Okay, of course. And she wanted me to take a picture of her and her friend. They were all dressed up to go to the club, whatever. hadn't yet taken off their heels and started crying yet because some guy wouldn't paying attention to him. Great. So I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. Let me get the, let me get the phone. So I took a picture of them and it was dark, right? Because it's, the flash doesn't work. And it's night time. It's very well. It's night time. Yeah. So I give it back to them like, ah, let me, give me that back. Let me see that again. So take the phone,
Starting point is 00:51:45 I took out my phone. Here comes the tip. And I turned the flashlight on on my phone and held it out to light them up when I took the picture. It's a pretty good move. Next picture turned out great. Yeah. I see other people doing that. Specifically, the first time I saw that was a group of Asians doing it in a restaurant. And it was this, I remember I was at this Italian restaurant, and they were, that's the first time I ever saw a selfie stick. There were these, I think they were Korean.
Starting point is 00:52:14 There were these Korean girls sitting at a table. There were all, there's like 20 of them, and they're all Korean. I'm like, this is weird. I don't know what's going on here. There's something, some, some congregation going on here. I don't know. What, a flock of Korean girls? A flock of Korean girls? It's weird.
Starting point is 00:52:30 I don't know. But they're all sitting there. If you get too many Korean girls in the same place, a Korean spa forms out of it. Did you know that? That's true. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Well, I should have stuck around. Like it forms out of the earth. Well, they were too busy with their selfie sticks and doing their flash tricks to do that. Dick, the New York Times, you know what they, this is really clever. They dubbed it the narcissistic. I love that. It's also been called the wand of narcissists. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Okay, this is from the New York Times. It says, there are now vast automated networks to harvest all the narcissism, along with lots of personal data, creating extensive troves of user-generated content. The tendency to listen to the holy music of the self is reflected in the abundance of messaging and self-publishing services. Vine, WhatsApp, Snapchat, Instagram, Apple's new voice messaging service, and the rest. And they go on. They say the majority of the time that people are spending online is on Facebook, said Anthony DeRosa, editor-chief at Circa, a mobile news startup.
Starting point is 00:53:35 He says, you have to find a way to break through or tap into all that narcissism. We are way too into ourselves. And then they said that Facebook may be dominant, but Snapchat is growing much faster at over 55% in the last six months, whose younger skewing audience tells you where things might be headed. Selfies are the dominant midder of Snapchat, an art form so addictive that the New York State passed a law to take effect in February that outlaws self-portraits with tigers and lions. Wait a minute, wait a minute. What?
Starting point is 00:54:07 What's illegal about self-portraits with tigers and lions? They've passed a law that you can't take a self-portrait with tigers and lions in New York. Why? Because it's annoying? It's not only annoying. Oh, I'm sorry, Dick. Are we protecting us from ourselves? Yeah. You're not allowed to take a picture? A selfie.
Starting point is 00:54:27 With a lion? You don't see a problem with outlawing a picture, which is art by definition? That can't be right, what you just said. That's what it says in the New York Times. New York State passed a law to take effect in February that outlaws selfie portraits. Dick, you were on Snapchat or, excuse me, Tinder for a while, right? Yeah. On Tinder, one of the top profile pictures I saw on there was someone taking a selfie with a tiger
Starting point is 00:54:54 or a, well, it was mostly just tigers. Yeah, it's a tiger, and then the second one is a shot of Machu Picchu. Yeah, those are the two big photos. Or the picture of where they went to an African village and it's just like a bunch of black kids. And then the next picture is a close-up of her face because she's an enormous blimp. That's the third most popular picture on Tinder.
Starting point is 00:55:15 You only have one of those three. And? Well, that's unfortunate. It is unfortunate. Such a lie. Yeah. Such a lie. It is misleading.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Just be fat. Don't be fat and a liar. Dick, do you want a bunch of dipshits? Again, they're taking pictures with tigers. So I remember reading a while back where a guy was trying to take a picture where the tiger fell into the pit and got mauled by the tiger. Right? So that's what they're trying to prevent. At the zoo?
Starting point is 00:55:42 Yeah. He fell into the tiger enclosure? Yeah, man. Because they're trying to take selfies with tigers. Or they'll, also what this does, Dick, is it creates a black market for tigers. You go to Mexico. Shut up. No, it does.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Shut up. The selfie fucking narcissism has created a black market for tigers. Stop it. It has. What? A guy will drive over to your house with a van of a doped up tiger, like a bunch of lights. Like, it'll open up, like, baseball stadium lighting, and then you'll pose for your Tinder picture. Dick, you joke.
Starting point is 00:56:15 You joke. But they do dope up these tigers. Have you ever been in Senada? Ensenada Mexico. I don't think so, no. They have these little tents where they have baby tigers in them. And then these tigers, you go in this tent, you pay them like 20 pesos or whatever, and you pose with these tigers. And the tigers are really docile and really cute and really fun and you pet them and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Because they're doped. They're doped up. They dope up these tigers and then you go to Mexico to take your fucking narcissistic selfie with this tiger so you can put on your Tinder profile so you can get laid, you fucking loser. This is what it's creating. It's creating a black market for this shit. That's why it's a big problem. That's not why. Because tigers are getting high.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Uh-oh. All these tigers got to go to college. They can't be wasting their day getting high with a bunch of dumb tourist brads with cornrows in their hair. Look, man, it's a gateway drug. Next thing you know, tigers are taking heroin. They're shooting up everywhere.
Starting point is 00:57:12 And who makes heroin? ISIS. We don't want a bunch of terrorist tigers. They're not. great. Dick, these tigers get desperate. They're sucking Dick for blow. It's tigers, man.
Starting point is 00:57:27 All over the street. I got to tell you, I have not, I hate selfie sticks too, obviously. I thought you were going to say you hate blow jobs from tigers. I probably do. They're not great. But I don't encounter selfie. I haven't encountered one walking around.
Starting point is 00:57:40 And I think it's because I don't go to tourist spots. Dick, you live in a tourist spot. I know, but nobody's like... You live in Hollywood. It's like one of the biggest tourist destinations in the world. That's why I'm so surprised. I don't see them walking around. Nobody wants to take a self-portrait of themselves in the men's room at the frolic room. You know what I mean? Well, no one wants to go to the frolic room. That's why I go there. It's great. It's awful.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Man, that ruined a date, by the way, one time. The frolic room, did I tell you to go there? There's this bar. There's this bar, guys. It's called the frolic room in Hollywood. And it's like, everything, on paper, it's everything you want in a dive bar. But in reality, it's a dive bar, and not a great way either. Not in a great way. It's just like the people who, it skews older, the people who drink there are 60 plus. So I took based on your advice one time, Dick,
Starting point is 00:58:30 I was in Hollywood desperately looking for a bar because I was on this hot date, right? I got your back. Oh yeah, yeah. I remember Dick in my mind one time saying, yeah, Frolic Room's a great place. Go check out for a so I said, okay, I heard my buddy said this place is cool. I walk in, it was like a cemetery. I walked in, I'm like, I turned
Starting point is 00:58:48 to my date, I said, I'm so sorry. Let's get out of here And I scramble to find someplace else I got free popcorn there though Oh great baby You want to go to this bar I don't know it's a great bar Yeah
Starting point is 00:58:59 Shep a handful of popcorn in her mouth There you go You know I'm just fucking popcorn To cross the movie theater Yeah 20 grand So I don't encounter them that often That's all I'm saying
Starting point is 00:59:12 Well open your fucking eyes And stop drinking maybe You won't be in such a dazed stupor Stumbling around Hollywood How do you not say I've seen him everywhere man I don't know. I'm genuinely
Starting point is 00:59:21 I'm as surprised as you are. You have never seen people use a selfie stick. No. In real life, no. Like, I've seen it on the computer. There's a commercial on air, on TV right now that has people using selfie sticks. I've seen them on the computer and on TV.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I've never seen one in real life. Like, I've never even seen one. And you know, I wrote that article a long time ago, don't be a padhole. It's about people who bring their tablets to events and they hold their giant fucking tablets up, taking selfies with them at the Mona Lisa, where I'm standing behind this dipshit, this oblivious fucktard,
Starting point is 00:59:52 who's sitting there taking selfies of himself or his wife with this giant fucking tablet. You need more screen real estate for your low-resolution shitty, low-quality sensor on your iPad too. You know what's the worst part about that too is usually they're not even taking selfies? They're taking a picture of a thing that you can Google and get 20 million images of that are all better than yours. Yeah. Like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:00:18 What is this digital piss you're taking on this spot to prove you've been here? Well, that is, that annoys me. You know, Dick, I came to that realization one time when I was actually in the Muzidio orsay in France. It's a- Okay, fancy. Shut up. That's some kind of a cock museum or what's there? No, Sean, Sean would be visiting that for sure. This was a museum in France.
Starting point is 01:00:42 It's by the Louvre. If you go to France and you're going to go see a museum, go to the Mugé de Orsay. it's way better than the Louvre. The Louvre is garbage. There, I said it. It's garbage. Oh, you're wrong. Sumi Art World. Louvre. This is not garbage. Now who's fancy.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Mr. Fancy Pans. Yeah, so the Louvre, you make a B-line to the Mona Lisa. You see the crowds, you leave. There we go, Mr. Sophisticated. That's the tour of the Louvre. Go, B-line to the Mona Lisa. Yeah. A painting that's only famous because it was stolen.
Starting point is 01:01:14 I checked the Venus, Venus de Milo, Milo. Whatever. I check that statue. Okay, cool. I get it. It's cool as shit. Do you see The Last Supper? Yeah, I've seen The Last Supper there. Actually, there's some really cool paintings in the Louvre. I take that back. Anyway, go to Musei D'Orsay, right? I go up there, I think square foot for square foot you see more impressive art at the Muse Deorsay. That's why I mention it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:35 All right. I was upstairs and I saw the, it's the, was it Picasso who had the... No, it was Van Gogh. There's a lot of Van Gogh. Self-portrait. The Van Gogh self-portrait, where he had his ear bandage and he had his ear bandage and he had, it's you had the red beard or whatever, right? Yeah, and he's flipping off the viewer.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Is that the one you're talking about? You're thinking of me. Oh, oh, that's not Van Gogh. No, that's me. That's a different artist. I get confused for Van Gogh all the time. Is that a Jesus complex? Anyway, so I was taking a picture of this Van Gogh.
Starting point is 01:02:03 And by the way, they said no photography, no photography. Whatever, I'm taking a picture. No flash photography. They were actually... No photography? I think, yeah. I think there were, there was either no photography or no flash... No, it was no photography.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Maybe it said no smoking in French. No. No, they said no farting in French. El no fumar. Whatever, I don't know, man. Oh, it's Lefumar, that's what it would be. So, anyway, I'm taking a picture of the Van Gogh portrait, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Fuck your rules. Here's what I think. I'm going to take a picture. So I take a picture. And then I sit in there looking at the picture, looking at the frame. Before I even press the shutter button, I thought, why am I doing this? Why am I taking a picture of this thing? I know it's famous.
Starting point is 01:02:45 I've seen it in history books, in art books. It's a famous painting, but I can't justify ever having a use for this photo. No, no one even wants to see it. Because, yeah, I thought, well, could I show it to friends? That's the argument you could make. Hey, look, I went to this place and I saw this thing. I'm going to show it to friends. Well, first of all, there's no evidence that I took that picture because I'm not in it.
Starting point is 01:03:07 No, that's the least of your problems. Yeah. But then if I took a picture like that and I showed it to my friends and family and they said, well, you're not in it. How do we know it's yours? then I got dickhead friends and family. They don't believe me. They don't believe that I even went to Paris.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Okay, then I need new friends. Essentially, the bottom line is this. If you take a photo of something famous and you're afraid that your friends aren't going to believe that you actually saw it, you need new friends. And then if you have to have that photo to prove that you were there, which you never do, then you're, again, you're surrounded by assholes.
Starting point is 01:03:42 And it's a picture of something that you could get on the internet. You don't need, you don't need, and that it's, you don't even want to see it. No, my dad told me that before I went to Europe for the first time. Don't take pictures of things that you're not in, that people aren't in. Because it never take pictures of something that a person isn't in. I didn't get it at the time. I did it, but since then I've been passing that advice forward.
Starting point is 01:04:03 I did take, well, here, so I'm kind of a hypocrite here in, but I do use photos I've taken in museums for articles that are at on my website. Okay. So there is that. I did actually, you know, it's ironic, because I did actually use that picture. of Van Gogh on my website. Yeah. But to illustrate the point
Starting point is 01:04:19 that I was just making. And didn't you take a picture of all the pad holes taking a picture of the Mona Lisa? Yeah. So you were doing it. I was taking a picture of a padhole. But weren't you also holding up the camera?
Starting point is 01:04:30 No, no. I didn't have to hold it up. You don't have to get in a good arrangement to see these padholes. They're already, they're taking up most of the landscape for you. Can't escape it. Here's my thinking on selfie sticks.
Starting point is 01:04:43 I get it. I get why people want a good picture. of themselves because they're fat as fuck and they want to space the camera away from them so they don't get that like gobbling you know pizza the hut chin you're talking about you're taking a selfie you hold your head back like I'm doing right now and you look like you get about six chins right so they get a selfie stick they hold it out they maybe look more natural but it is it is just kind of fucking everyone else's convenience for a moment sure sure for your narcissism so the reason I mentioned the pad holes dick is because
Starting point is 01:05:16 now they have selfie sticks for pad for tablets oh god so people are it sounds like a lot of broken tablets yeah well people are carrying around these giant fucking tablets and then they're holding they're extending them out so that they take up more of the the landscape
Starting point is 01:05:32 more of your view space you can't even you know did you see that Obama press conference where he got heckled no there was an Obama press conference and Obama is usually pretty cool at these uh when he gets heckled he handles it with a plum but what happened at this one the guy wouldn't pipe down and eventually Obama had to get him
Starting point is 01:05:50 kicked out, right? But you couldn't even see fucking Obama because so many people had their cell phones held up. Guys, there's a news crew behind you trying to get a shot of the fucking president talking and you can watch it on the news. Your little grainy, shitty cell phone footage isn't going to do
Starting point is 01:06:06 anything. You'll watch the first steps of your kid maybe ten times if you get it on video, right? Maybe in your life. Maybe once a year. Maybe the year they go to college, you'll load that file up out of some forgotten drop box and take a look at it. You will never look at the video you took of Obama coming to L.A. Yeah. I agree, man. So it's starting to get banned dick. The Australian Festival Soundwave
Starting point is 01:06:38 banned selfie-6 in 2015, as has the National Gallery of Australia, the National Portrait Gallery, the Smithsonian Institute, National Gallery in London, the Palace of Versailles in France, and the Coliseum in Rome have all banned selfie sticks, yeah. You know why the Coliseum? Because people were using their selfie sticks to carve their initials into things. What?
Starting point is 01:07:03 It's essentially just a pole. You're just carrying a pole around with you. Yeah. Sporting stadiums are also starting to ban the stick along with theme parks like Disney World and Disneyland. Thank God. These things, you guys, you don't need tools to be more narcissistic. You're so fucking full of yourself.
Starting point is 01:07:20 When I pull up someone's Facebook profile and there's something like two or three thousand images of them, I want to unfriend that person. Fuck off. You're not that important. There are more important people who haven't been talking about. Fucking, there's like zero pictures of Alexander the Great. Yeah. Zero.
Starting point is 01:07:36 And you know what? Unless it's a magic wand, you're still going to be ugly. Yeah. With the selfie stick. Oh, but they cheat. You can get that camera 100 yards away. It's still you. Just use your hand.
Starting point is 01:07:50 That's what you look like. Sorry. Or maybe cut down on the selfies, man. We get it. Your life is magical. It's fantastic. It's amazing. Use Snapchat so it disappears after 24 hours or 10 seconds.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Whatever. By the way, Dick, I have some friends now. And they do skew younger. I don't know why they do this, but they have exclusively moved to Snapchat for their form of media propagation. Well, do you use it, Snapchat? I'll tell you why it is.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Yeah, because I get fucking pictures of horses all the time. That's what I get on Snapchat. It's a lot easier to share pictures of what you're doing with people on Snapchat. It's like... No, why? No, it is because if you send them via text, they sit on your phone forever and clog up your phone
Starting point is 01:08:37 and derail the conversation you were having. Your phone, iPhone user? Well, most people are iPhone. No, that's not true. Most people are Android. Jesus Christ. Go on. Please cram a selfie stick up your ass, you contrarian. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:08:50 I'm not being a contrarian. You're just fucking full of shit, dick. Most people's phones work like that, where the photo sits on their phone, and it's kind of annoying to have on the stream of text, but on Snapchat, it's not. It's a lot easier. Oh, okay. It's easier to share pictures on Snapchat. I've started using it.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Share pictures for 10 seconds at a time. Well, how long do you want to look at it? I don't know, man. If it's a picture of my friend, it's a good picture. I want to keep it. What it's like a picture of a snake? Like, hey, check this snake out. Bloop. There you go, Maddox.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Then I want to see it. Yeah, I get, like, funny jokes and stuff on Snapchat every now and then. And I can't say, I have to take a screenshot. Then I look like a creep because it notifies the other person. I took a screenshot. What's a joke that you get on Snapchat? I have some friends who are pretty funny on Snapchat, and they'll send me something. They'll send me something pretty funny.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Okay. Yeah. I want to save that sometimes. Snapchat is just so ephemeral. You know what, fuck it. I'm okay with that, though, Dick. I'm making an argument for Snapchat. Great.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Because it disappears. We don't need it clogging up server space on Facebook or wherever. Yeah. So what's going to happen with these selfie sticks? People just got to start taking them. Just start taking them, beating them over the head with it. Here you go, you fucking narcissistic fuck.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Here you go. Shove it up your ass. That's not going to happen. What's the next step? How big can it get? Banning them. No drones. That's what's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:10:10 People are going to. have drones. Personal drones. This is the future. Yeah. It's going to be six drones following everybody around at all times, storing video
Starting point is 01:10:18 in their DNA. So you can record everything you're ever doing all the time. Yeah. It'll beam it right to your Google Glass so you can control... Right to your eyeball. Yeah, right to your eyeball.
Starting point is 01:10:28 So you can control the drone with your... With your narcissism. And you know what though, Dick? That's only temporary until we all transport ourselves into virtual reality. And we don't have to worry about this anymore
Starting point is 01:10:40 where you can be anyone, want. Everyone's going to be super hot. It's going to be great. Yeah, anyway, Dick, that's my problem. Selfie sticks this week. Bigger problem than no farting. Or what was yours? No fumar. Yeah, same thing. Guys, go to the website. See you next Tuesday. Oh, this is a question for you. I do kind of want to know the answer to this. Hey, this is Pete and Maine. I'm just listening to episode 56, and Maddox is pitching a fit about pepperoni. Right. When not five minutes ago, he said he would take salami on his pizza. If you look up pepperoni, it actually is literally just spicy salami.
Starting point is 01:11:17 It's not. It's not? I guess that would make Maddox someone who can't eat spicy food. Okay. So that guy doesn't know what salami is? Chump. There's a difference in the curing process between salami and pepperoni. Pepperoni is much lower quality meat than salami.
Starting point is 01:11:31 By the way, guys, salami is a broad range of meats, of curing processes and meats. and what he's specifically talking about is soproseta. Soapraseta salami is spicy salami. Fuckhead. You want spicy things on your pizza, then add fucking pepper or soapraeta salami. That's what it is. Pepperoni is just pig lips and assholes. It's ground up.
Starting point is 01:11:53 And by the way, you like pepperoni so much? Why don't you take a couple sizes? Throw it on a pan and fry it. See how much fucking oil there is. It's garbage. It's shit meat. It's low quality. Just like that voicemail was.
Starting point is 01:12:03 All right. Well, I wanted to know. Speaking abroad. Hi. I like the califunga. I'll just call myself Super Blackout Melissa And I just like to say this You two are actually some of the nicest guys I've ever heard
Starting point is 01:12:19 That's libel, slander Women, we'll just everyone needs together head out of their asses Like you're actually not bad people at all And I love you guys and I hope to keep hearing more of you Okay, I'm going to sue her You're going to be hearing from my lawyer, that's slander I'll take that More Astorios
Starting point is 01:12:38 Coconos More screaming, not less. I agree. I got some leftover bits from him that I brought in. Oh, my gosh, Dick. What are we doing? We got to play those. I'll end on those.
Starting point is 01:12:57 I'm boisterous coconuts. And I'm a digital cyber demon. Bringing you the biggest problems on the World Wide Web. It's this week in Internet hell. Have you seen this hot list of 29 mind-blowing stocks to lose all your money on? They're all the same company because BuzzFeed is planning an IPO. At last Wednesday's Code Conference, CEO Jonah Peretti announced plans for a BuzzFeed public offering, made up of aggregated bits from other more successful public offerings.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Is Wall Street dumb enough to invest in a company that only makes gifts of 90s TV shows? You'd better believe it. Don't have a cowman. Did I do that? Got any cheese? Oh, excuse me, stockbroker, one BuzzFeed, please. That appeals to me as a 20-something. Oh, 30-something.
Starting point is 01:13:57 You're saying something about BuzzFeed? I read their coverage of the Trayvon Martin case. It seemed to agree with every email I got about it. So that's where I got my news on Trayvon Martin, BuzzFeed. These morons, these unnuanced fucks who thought that I was somehow making the case that the verdict was wrong, rather than an ethical debate, an ethical look at the case.
Starting point is 01:14:23 What was the ethical look? He's a hot head? He's a hot head dip. I don't think it's a stretch of the imagination to think this guy was looking for a fight. A double dose of cybercrime this week as the IRS and adult friend finder were both hit by massive thefts of personal data.
Starting point is 01:14:41 So now Russian hackers have your social security number and your dick size. The IRS claims hackers made off with over 100,000 tax transcripts, but cyber demons don't pay taxes, so I don't give a shit. Far more importantly, 3.9 million adult Fred Finder accounts were hacked, linking details of user's specific sexual preferences. Now everyone's going to know that I can only achieve an orgasm while watching a Japanese girl hitting a man in the dick with a pillow
Starting point is 01:15:13 while screaming about Santa Claus. Wait, what's that? My information wasn't leaked? Uh, please ignore my previous comment, R.E., my favorite film, Japanese dong destroyers meet Old St. Prick. Old St. Prick. That's a tough joke to make.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Hey, Old Saint Prick coming down the chimney. White Christmas, starring Old St. Prick. Yeah, he needs to get that chimney bleached. Follow that analogy, idiots. Assholes. It's the battle of the bullshit fitness crackers. Jawbone is suing Fitbit, claiming that they came up with the idea of tricking fat people first. In a lawsuit filed last Wednesday, Jawbone alleges that Fitbit engaged in a secret effort to steal jawbone's trade secrets through smuggled USB drives.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Wow. I wonder what kind of juicy trade secrets. bone has. I'm sure it took thousands of hours to come up with the idea of a watch that tells you not to be a lord ass. Well, I'm wearing my jawbone right now. Oh, what's that jawbone? If I want to lose weight, I should sit less and walk more? That's offensive. How dare you flaunt your jawbone privilege? I'm going to go buy a Fitbit. Oh, I'm sorry, I use the wrong word. I'm going to go buy a Kit-Kat. And in closing news, the internet this year will have over 3.2 billion users. And yet you, the listener, still have zero friends. Ha ha ha, ha.
Starting point is 01:16:59 What a world. That's all for this week. This is boisterous coconuts reminding you. The internet is go fucking sad. Amen to that, buddy. Internet should go fuck itself. Me included. Wait.
Starting point is 01:17:19 You should go fuck yourself or it should fuck you? What? You included, meaning the internet should go, you are on the internet, so you should go fuck this? The internet should go fuck itself. I agree with that. Right. Good.

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