The Biggest Problem in the Universe - Episode 239

Episode Date: September 5, 2026

Vito Gesualdi and Dr. Kevin P Hickerson wage war against the coming AI warlords

Ladies and gentlemen, it's Biggest Problem episode 239 with my special guest, Nuclear Mastermind Wizard of the Sciences. And fellow comedian Dr. Kevin Hickerson, Dr. Kevin, how you been, buddy? Great. I'm really happy to be back on the show. I love this one. It's been a while, man. I don't know. I mean, I won't get too far into it.

My journey's not going very well. I'm not going to lie. There's been a lot of shakeups in the world of biggest problems since the last time you were on. You might notice that I'm forced to do it. the show by myself. And reaction, you know what? I got to be real, is I get a lot of comments. Half of them go, kill yourself, fat boy, and thank you for that.

But then the other half go, hey, this ain't nearly as bad as it could have been. Some people seem to even enjoy it. So we're keeping the train going. I believe in you. I think you could pull it off. I'm giving it the old college try. We're bringing back some old standards, which is why I said, I got to get Dr. Kevin. Oh, I love Dr. Kevin. For those of the audience who don't know Dr.

How did we meet? We met doing comedy, right? We met doing comedy, I think. Yeah. We had to. Probably at the store or something. Yeah, like mutual friends with Tom Clark. You're friends with him, right? Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. And we kind of met and I was like, who's this guy? He's a comedian, but also a nuclear physicist, which makes no sense to me. Because I'm like, hey, how's the comedy going? And you're like, oh, I'm like busy splitting the atom. I ain't got time for that. Yeah. What do you been up to? Yeah, I started a company, a nuclear company, and I promise I'm not going to go on for too long about it.

I started a nuclear company. We were trying to build a nuclear reactor to go to the moon. That's why. We were trying to build a nuclear reactor and put it on the moon. Wait, you want to put a reactor on the moon? Yeah. For what point? Well, we're building a moon base.

I didn't know this was going to turn into a pitch or something, but. I'm not asking for a pitch, but like, okay, when a guy tells me he's building a nuclear reactor on a moon base, I go, well, that's evil villain shit. Oh, come on, it's me. I say stuff like that. Okay. That happens sometimes. Yeah, no, we're putting a reactor on the moon to help America build a moon base. We're going back to the moon.

Astronauts just orbited the moon just like last month and they came back. And we're going to send more astronauts to walk around. And the U.S. is going to stay this time. Why? For what, what purpose? I think it's mostly motivated by conspiracy theorists. I think that it's like it's a challenge. It's like if we don't stay, then people are going to think it's fake. So as long as we have people living on the moon, then all the people say we've never been in the moon, you'd be like, well, there's guys up there right now. They'll just say it's a sound

stage, though. That's not going to help anything. Yeah. No, I think it's not going to work. We're not going to kill these things until everybody gets to go to the moon. You know, like nobody says Florida is fake, right? I was like, it's like, it's like, it's like. he said i don't believe in florida because enough people could just go and buy a ticket and go there so i think it's pretty similar to the moon i think it's like okay but um my friend joe was on the moon like two weeks ago so you know like enough people are going to go that it will be fine so do we have to build a nuclear reactor on the moon because they need power is that the reason they need power although the thing we're really into is mining on the moon and that's the reason we're actually going to stay

as much as the conspiracy theory part is fun uh the real reason is because because you can mine on the moon and there's quite a lot of very cool stuff up there. Like, is there any like precious minerals that are completely destroy our... Yes, there are very, many very precious minerals. They're always talking about jockeying an asteroid because it's full of, what, palladium or some shit.

Yeah, and an asteroid, uh, it's really similar reason why the moon has it is the, the moon is hit by asteroids. And so all of the valuable stuff that you've heard of, there are spots on the moon that have been hit by very valuable asteroids. and it's just sitting there.

There's no erosion. It's just like literally sitting there on the surface. Oh, shit. That's pretty cool. Yeah. So you just walk over and you just pick up fucking platinum and shit. Yep, yeah, pretty much. If you know where to look, yeah.

That's the hard part, but I'm not going to go in detail. So it's not so much about advancing. I was going to say it's not about advancing humanity. It's about getting a bunch of free metal. It's about all that stuff. Of course, it's about the survival of humanity. That's goal number one. Goal number two is make a lot of money while you make sure that humanity survives.

Really, you got to do both. I mean, you got to be a realist about this. If you're a normal red-blooded capitalist American like I am, you recognize that to actually get projects sustained and solved, you also have to have a business reason that helps fund that process. So they're related. To me, they're the same problem. It's like you got to get rich making humanity survive or humanity's doomed.

So I think that's... Based on some... I don't know what's going on with humanity. I think we can get into that later in the show. But right now we're going to talk about... See, I've got to have all these new... I've got to have all these great... I have a drum roll, but it sucks.

That's fucking terrible. I need better... I need better sound effects here. That's like straight of the 60s or so. It's like a 60s or so. It's like a 60s. show. Some gong show shit I got here. All right. Last week,

we had the great Tommy C shot from the point, and our winners were breakup letters. We talked about a certain breakup letter. That was number one. Everything on Amazon is the exact same was number two. And then sadly, Tommy's problems did not get a lot of love. The rising cost of prostitution in Germany was maybe a little too niche for people. That's really specific.

It's really, I like, I'm sure that's a problem to someone, but he came to me before the show and he's like, like, I always give guys tips. I'm like, well, bring in like some stats, bringing in. I'm like, you know, like prostitution in general, but they immediately was like, yeah, you can't get a good cheap German prostitute. And I'm like, I think it's a, that's a tough, relatable problem for people. Look, I studied a lot of math. Okay, you got to do nuclear physics. If you're, if the name of the show is biggest problem of the universe and you, your first choice is a tiny little, subsection of the universe called Germany. I think you're just, you're not even playing the rules of the show. You at least got to focus on America. Focus on a real country. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, it doesn't worry. Stubbing your toe.

No, no. I, when you stub your toe on Tuesday on a coffee table, like, no, no, because we did have finger pain. Finger pain. It was one of the problems and that ended up doing quite well. So you, but finger pain is, okay, stubbing your toe is relatable to, Everyone. So that is, could be the biggest problem in the universe.

Stubbing your toe can't. Stubbing your toe in Germany is not as big a problem. Okay. Like my left toe only and, uh, in my specific coffee table that I bought on, uh, Craigslist.

We also had in dead last the inability to look masculine with a cat, which we agreed upon, but unfortunately people did not think it was a problem. I think we got a lot of dog people in the audience. Uh, all right. We had some comments from last. problem from CAD computers says I'm putting in my vote for Tommy as permanent co-host so

there was some positive love for Tommy shot from the point I actually enjoyed having him on maybe we'll have them on again Donnie dazzler says good work veto and guys let me know what you think about this please a little less of the unfunny Jew bashing and Chinaman voice and more of the interesting problems like the Amazon discussion so some people maybe I'm not I love the Jews If I do the Jewish voice, it's out of respect. We know this. There you go, yeah. All right.

Matt Nelson says next co-host, Aaron Imholt. I would get Aaron on here. Somebody tell Aaron we're doing this show. If Aaron wants to come on, do an episode, I think it would be fine. Jay Spenney says the AI cartoon thumbnails suck. I'm hearing. Oh, okay. I've been using AI, Dr. Kevin, to make, like, thumbnails for the show and stuff.

Yeah. Some people seem to like them. If you don't, okay, sound off in the comments. Tell me what you think the thumbnails should be. I think it's funny. But if people don't think it's funny, if they think it just looks like AI garbage, then I'll stop doing it.

Your feedbacks determine the content here. We're definitely getting to that point where people are like tired of it. I know, I know my kids are just, they are so against AI generated art. It's crazy. They have more of a thing about, even the young people are against it.

I even feel comfortable with. It's like, do you care so much? Dude, that's wild. No, it's like to them, it's completely cringe. I would, well, it is, I get that. Okay, but the problem is that they're seeing adults using it badly. Because like a lot of adults are doing a really bad fucking job with AI and putting

together like absolute dog shit. So it's like when boomers joined Facebook, you know, the way it was for us. Boomer's joined Facebook. It was like, okay, no, never mind. I would think, but I would think young people would take the AI and be able to make something cool with it. Am I crazy? I think it's just it's not aimed at them yet like so much, uh, because there's people worrying about like, like, oh, are they using it to cheat in class and stuff like that? So I think as soon as they get a hold of it, they'll, they'll do it with their

their own thing. And I'm like surprised we're not seeing like 14 year olds making their own fucking TV shows. Like the tech is crazy. I, it's going to happen. It's just we have to get past that uncanny valley, uh, bulge problem. February says, uh, Vito, you are the boomer using a Okay, well, I think I'm doing a pretty good job with it, but maybe I'm crazy. I don't know. I'm telling you, man, it's like when boomers joined Facebook. Suddenly not very exciting. It was all into it back of the day.

I look, I understand there's a lot of cringe AI, but it is getting better and better. It's going to get to the point where like this, okay, I put out some stuff and people don't complain because I don't even think they know it's AI. All right? Then Gavin 795 says, thanks for the show, Vito. Where are the voicemail? Guys, I have an exciting announcement, which is we have a voicemail number. Can you believe it?

This is where I play. Applaus intense. The voicemail number, guys, is 689-244-4-338. That's 68-9 biggest. So just go to your phone, type 689-bigest, and you can leave a voicemail for the show. You can also, as Gavin is asking, says, where is? There's Mints News segment this week, and he brings up a very good point. Where has a newsgirl mint salad gone?

Well, I'm looking at the backstage. She's looking on her phone. There's Mints Salad here for what we like to call. Voted up. God damn it. He loaded up with Q-tips and said boys go home into the web. That's right. That's right.

he can vote all his favorite problems like big shit to tear up See AI is great Okay it's the whole song about fucking my cat Okay there's like 10 more minutes of this Thank you at DeSanto off road For an complete song About fucking my cat

Was that AI too? I believe yes That was definitely AI I love that I get emails for people They're like I have a very exciting song You're gonna love it And the whole thing is just about me Fucking cats

It's voted up What do you got for us? Oh boy, but Vito, for the voicemail number, you should just have a graphic on the top the entire time, like how the biggest problem in the universe does. All right. Look, if you're just going to promote your other fucking show the whole time. I work for it. News lady. Yeah, okay.

All right. Vote it up from episode 109, lack of sex tourism. This is a good one. This was a problem about how you can't get sex tourism anywhere. I'm just letting people know what the problem is, man. Go ahead. Okay. Thai authorities are cracking down on prostitution ahead of the arrival of nearly 5,000 U.S. sailors and Marines to the Resort City of Pataya. Ooh.

The USS Abraham Lincoln and two accompanying Navy vessels are scheduled to dock near the resort city this week, giving personnel shore leave after more than 200 days at sea. Wait, wait, so these sailors have been at sea for 200 days and they're invading Thailand. Yeah. We're going to have a lot of beautiful babies in the next couple of years, it sounds like. Unless they're fucking ladyboys. They could be. It is Thailand. Prostitution is illegal in Thailand. But Pataya has long been known as a major destination for sex tourism.

Local officials and businesses expect the influx of... of U.S. military personnel to provide a significant short-term boost to Pataya's nightlife economy. So I mean, they say they're cracking down on prostitution, but like it's probably like a wink wink and a nod, right? Like doesn't Thailand isn't half their economy, just guys showing up to fuck people in Thailand? That's what I hear. Dr. Kevin is quiet on this.

Kevin, you've been spent a lot, you've been building any nuclear reactors in Thailand? No, I haven't. No. You ever thought about visiting? I'm going to go. It's gone. Five thousand U.S. soldiers and Marines going all around, having a good time. I mean, it sounds like a, it sounds like they're going to have a good time down there.

You know, I'm not an economist. I'm a nuclear physicist, but I have a feeling that the prostitution marketplace will be fine, even with the crackdown. But I'm saying, like, why is it so illegal in America? Clearly, they're like, oh, we've got to take shore leave. let's drop these soldiers off so they can fuck a bunch of prostitutes in Thailand. Like the government knows it goes on. They don't care about it. It could be legalized at this point.

Maybe it's just negotiation. It could be the U.S. negotiating. Like, hey, our boys don't have to pay for it. You know, that kind of thing. I think we're going to help out the Thai economy. It sounds like. I mean, come out. If you showed up on an aircraft carrier, you shouldn't have to pay to play.

I'm just, that's my idea. We got to pay the Thai. What do you mean? You got to pay. You think the government's going to pay. for your problem. What are you talking about? No, I think ladies should just be like into ladies should be excited to sleep with a sweaty Americans getting off the vote. No, no, no. They need that money. They need that money. That's like the history of, uh, of this is,

this is the new USAID. So USAID used to be, we would go to Africa. We would, you know, give the money to not get HIV. This is better. We just send our soldiers to different countries with a bunch of money in their pockets and then they can make the economy flush with sex dollars. That's the American way. This is a good plan. It's better than what we were doing before, just giving it away. All right. Dr. Kevin doesn't agree with me.

Any other news for us? Mint salad? Dr. Kevin's like, I'm a nuclear physicist. Hey, I ain't got time for this. I got one more. My only lover is science. Go ahead, Mint. From episode 141, donkey jelly.

Have you heard about donkey jelly, Dr. Kevin? Are you aware of donkey jelly? No, what is it? Oh, man, it's my new favorite thing. I put it in everything. Tell my man about the donkey jelly. All right. Scientists in Brazil are now developing lab-grown donkey collagen

in an effort to reduce the slaughter of donkeys for traditional Chinese medicine. No, no, no, no. I need the real shit. I'm none of this fake shit. They're making fake donkey goo now. Okay, so Kevin, in China, the Chinese are obsessed with boiling.

They get donkeys from poor countries. then they rip the fucking skin off them, hopefully after they're dead, and they boil it down and they get donkey jelly called Egyo. And they make it into cakes, they put it in tea. And the worst part is you would think, well, that's just got to be like old, ancient Chinese people doing that. But there's like an entire new marketing campaign to get young people just eating donkey jelly. And they're putting it in fucking everything and all the donkeys are running out. And so now we've got to have fake donkey jelly.

We got it. Yeah, well, now they're going to have, are they making, how are they making fake donkey jelly, man? What's happening? Well, donkey hides are used to produce agile, a gelatin used in China and marketed for purported health and anti-aging benefits. You can't get old if you're taking the donkey juice. We all know this. I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical of that claim. I'm sorry. Why do you think I stay so young? Every day. Every day I grab a handful of fucking donkey goo and I just eat it raw. Currently, the industry consumes an estimated 4.8 million donkey hides each year. In Brazil, the donkey population has fallen 94% from 1.3 million donkeys in 1996 to just about 78,000 in 2025. Wait, wait, wait, how many from 1.4 million to 78? Yeah, 1.3 million and 96 to 78,000 in 2025.

That's a lot of donkey goo. They got a lot of it. I got a question. So after this episode, you remember the TV show, Ali McBeal? Yes. There was some episode where like, was there an episode where she defended a donkey? What do you tell you about? No, no.

She somehow eating a horse came up. And then California passed a proposition because of this episode to ban the eating of horses. So what I want to know is I don't know enough. Would that cover donkeys or donkeys are like related? the horses, right, aren't they? Well, we did, at some point we got some Agyo, and I don't remember if we got it legally or not. I don't know if- So donkeys are allowed in California?

Yeah, well, donkeys are not beloved the way horses are. Like rich people ride horses. You never saw some rich lady with her hair up at a bond and their riding-crime. This could reboot Allie McBeal. They could have a whole, the donkey episode, the Ajo, the donkey goo episode. Well, you're a fucking scientist. Why are you wasting time with nuclear stuff? These guys are doing real stuff.

They're making fake donkey goo. to save the donkeys. You could be doing that. Yes. Uh, I mean, I don't know. You don't care that much about the donkey populated? We lost one million donkeys in Brazil. Do you remember how much I love the donkeys in Brazil? Now I go, there's a million less of them. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me. I'm pretty happy trying to mind the moon, man. That seems like a way more fun. Like that, that kind of job sounds like the kind of job where you'd show up and just be like,

uh, I don't, I'm, I have a side gig. But how do you, Imagine showing up to the donkey, the artificial doggy, the donkey murder machine. Oh, the artificial one. You got to pull the lever that like, I don't know, oozes out into cups on the, on the, I want to work the killing floor, man.

I'm going to work the donkey killing floor. Just sending them through. Yeah, we got to get a million more of them. These Chinese can't stop eating the goo. Get them in here. How does it feel as a scientist when you're like trying to land a nuclear reactor on the moon and Chinese people are boiling donkeys alive to eat their goo? Do you ever go like, what's the point of any of this?

Why am I even? What's the point of science if we still got people eating donkeys to stay alive forever? Yeah. No, it's, it's, yeah, it wears down to you sometimes. But I mean, look, if people want to eat donkey goo that I don't have that much of a well, I wish they wouldn't kill the don't. But I mean, I, you know, but it doesn't also. Now we're going to have synthetic don't have to.

And if people want to do that, that's fine. I love gummy bears. I think it's made out of something kind of similar. Didn't they used to use horse hooves or something? Yeah, yeah, gelatin used to be horses. Yeah, and then they figured out how to make it out of seaweed or something. So, I'm okay with the general. Because one big problem is if you have a Chinese guy working on the moon, he's going to be going, hey, I need some donkey going to Chinese.

I can't live without this shit. And we're going to have, you're going to have a synthetic plant up there for all the Chinese people living on the moon or else they're going to go crazy. Yeah, exactly. You can have a nuclear power donkey murder factory and we'll just murder robot donkeys. I'd do. If that's the big market, then we'll go after it. Well, thank you, Mint Salad, for catching us up to date on all the news. Mitt Salad, where do we find you? Go watch The Better Show on Tricksy the Golden Witch Channel.

Biggerest problem in the universe happening right now. Bigger's problem in the universe. All right. Thank you, Trixia. Thank you, Mint Salad. That was voted up. I guess we are finishing this song. Oh, my God. hit the back door like i think we got the point of it uh well dr kevin uh though i am technically the winner i think we had a gentleman's agreement that uh you would lead us off this episode with your

problem so why don't you take it away absolutely okay uh i think the biggest problem in the universe is emoji inflation. Let me give you some background. Look, emoji start off is just like fun little things you could do in text. I'm old enough to remember that. Literally, they used to not be pictures. They were. I remember type.

I still type mine out. Like colon and parentheses or semicolon. That was winky face. And everyone was like, oh, this is fun. And it made texting a lot better, made emails better. But then they started making the icon. ones, you know, where you got a picture. I was like, okay, that's fun. But it's, then they started adding things on and just adding more, you know, they got the, like, here's, here's a pretty

hilarious one, like, man in a business suit leaving. Like, that's an, that's an emoji. Is that a current emoji? That's a current emoji. Yeah. Or a lock with a pen. We don't need this stuff. And it also started to learn, like, sexting. I want to have to learn the new ones, you know. Yeah. Well, I was going to say the eggplant where I was like, oh, that's a that's a penis. Sure. Even that started off okay. It's like, oh, I get it. Eggplants a big penis. Got it. But then it's like it's turned into this Egyptian hieroglyphics thing. It's turning into its own language. And then to make it worse, they've started having these like AI generated ones where you can just invent new emojis. It's like that's no longer an emoji. That's just a picture. Taking up space where letters should be. So I have not used those, but. So you can now make your own emojis and attach them to your text. Yeah, I mean, that is just attaching a picture at that point, I guess. Yeah, I don't use them either.

It's supposed to be a big thing that like, oh, you can make up your own or something. But I mean, at some point, I don't know what the point. That's why I say it's emoji inflation, because just like all things, if you overuse something, it loses its value and eventually the market crashes. And I think the market for emojis has crashed. I think they're, they've gotten to the point where kids don't. want to use them anymore. They're cringe. They're not helpful. Uh, my kids get mad at me if I use an emoji. Really? Uh, yeah. They're like, what? Well, okay. So I always thought, like, originally I was

kind of against emojis beyond like a smiley face or anything else. I was like, all right, this is getting a little much and I got to put like 10 fucking hearts and stars or whatever the fuck. But then I realized like part of the problem with communicating with text is like it is hard to establish intent in your words. So putting a happy face or putting an LOL or something tells people, hey, I'm not being serious. This is sarcasm. Like it's a way to better communicate when you're not talking face to face.

Yeah, it's great for that. I don't have problem with emojis in general. Like when there's a simple, small alphabet of emotions, it's much faster to do that. But I mean, you know, uh, like a poo and then a picture of a lock. like that's not an emotion anymore. I can't track that. Yeah, now you need like a Rosetta Stone. You're coming in like going into the the pyramids,

try to figure out what, what were they saying here? You know, like, well, I'm going to say, okay, so the real, one of the big problems with it is that the tech companies started like,

emoji should have been a unified language to actually help us communicate with text. We're all texting each other. We're all using the internet. We're all sending emails. We should have said, let's take this seriously and make it a, language where we can effectively communicate with each other. And the tech companies started getting like weird and politically correct about it, where they're like, well, you can't send

somebody a little picture of a gun. They go, why not? What do you mean? And they're like, no, no, it has to be like a little toy laser gun now. And they've neutered the emotion. Okay, what if a guy gets shot? I go, dad's just been shot. And I want to make sure, you know, I'm serious. And so I I send you a picture of a gun. And then you go, oh, my God, he's actually been shot. now I'm going to send a little laser gun and you're not going to take it seriously. Right. No, same with the politics of the color of your thumbs up emoji. You know, that was also danger zone.

It's like none of us are yellow. Like there's no yellow people. Yeah. So we had to start adding black emojis. It's like, yeah, well, but I need it to be my thumb. I can't have it be your, you know, the yellow man's thumb. Well, it was always like on the Simpsons where you go, why are all the Simpsons yellow except the black Simpsons? Like, why, why is there black people?

Yeah. Actually, Doug, if you ever watched the animation, Doug, the TV show, they handled it great because all the black people were blue. And you're like, okay, we got blue people and we got white people. I don't know, were there any black people on Doug? There was Skeeter, and you're always like, that's a black guy. They just made him blue because it's fun. Oh, like they did in India.

That's what they did in India. Yeah. There's people who think that, like, the reason that some of the gods are blue is because they were. They were actually black people, but they didn't want to depict it. That's why Vishnu's blue. Yeah, they're pretty dark in India. So for them, I think it was just like, holy shit, they're really dark.

You know, they're so dark, we need to make them blue. There was a period of time where they could have taken emojis as like a serious thing and sat down and said, look, this is going to be a code of language that helps us effectively communicate. But then people started showing up. Did you see when black people said, you're not allowed to use the black emojis? Those are our emojis. Yeah, yeah. And they're like dead serious. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're like, if you use the black emojis, you're racist. You go, well, why are they on my phone? No, I've done that. I've totally gotten people pissed to me for doing that. You've gotten yelled at? Well, you're in an academic setting. If you accidentally send the black thumbs up, do people go pull your side? More just like, hey, hey, hey, hey, you can't do that.

I didn't get canceled or anything more. Well, you're in an academic. I know a lot of the scientists now, they're like Indian guys. They pull you aside. You'll listen. I know she's the brown thumbs up. That's really reserved for me and my people. And we can't have you using that.

that would be so funny if like skin color wasn't enough and then it was like no we actually need some other racial indicator on the thumbs up you know it's like we do we like it's already a spectrum or brown it would be hilarious it was like no that's the wrong kind of brown you need asian brown not uh not african brown you know or not india but anyway well i'm looking at the current so there's there's new emojis that just showed up and apparently some of them are controversial And this is why this is a first of all, they need to stop. Shouldn't we be removing emojis? Shouldn't there be less every year?

Yeah, there should be less. There should not be more. Imagine, oh, what if we had an alternate universe or something where you know how the French used, I don't know if you noticed, but the French used to have an academy that decided what words were allowed to be in French. It was very different than in English where you could add whatever word you want. You can add anything. That's one of the reasons why English is such a big language is because any other language

can just add a word. Yeah, we just steal words all the time. And if people start saying it, then it becomes a word. But the French were like, no, we got to keep the French language pure. So they had this academy that would meet and decide whether words were allowed. Wouldn't it be hilarious if we did that with emojis? We had like a council of like political scientists, psychologists, psychologists, and legal experts and it's like, you know, therapists who decide how you showed emotion.

There's a lot of emojis that are like clearly overlapping. There's like embarrassed, but there's embarrassed, like, looking around. And I go, these are the same emoji. It should be, I shouldn't have to spend 10 years. Then there's the face palm or whatever. I shouldn't have to spend 10 years trying to figure out which emoji is the correct one. I should only have access. It should also contextually suggest the right emoji based on what you're writing instead of it making into a guessing game.

So here's the pretty good ones. Yeah, I like those. You're big on trombone? You think trombone's helpful? I mean, look, if you. you are really in the music and are in the band. They don't have a music emoji already? I don't think every instrument means its own emoji.

That's bullshit. Yeah, but you can't just show a trumpet because you can't do a slide on a trumpet. All right. Treasure chest I can get behind. Hey, I just found something cool. A little treasure chest, fight. There's a fight. Orca seems like we got, I'm sure there's already a dolphin or something.

Yeah. I don't think we need a whale one. Landslide. If you need to warn someone about a landline, slide. I'm not sure that emoji's the right one to use. Exactly. Hairy creature, I can already see several text messages where that would be involved. So that one's that was pretty good. Well, the distorted face emojis caused a stir on social media, making the connection to the iPad Pro Crush Ed. That's stupid as hell. This is what's pissing people off. That was when I think

Apple made a video where they were destroying things and they destroyed like pieces. I don't even understand. Okay, so the controversy is completely made up clickbait bullshit. Thank you, California Post for them. Like every news article these days. Look, I think that the big problem I've had is, I just think communicating the text is inefficient and that I always, and here's the other problem with emojis is ironic use of emojis. I think it should be against the law to use an emoji ironically. I love using it. Why? What? Because the problem. is it distorts the fucking text. It's like, I want the meaning of the text. The emoji defines the meaning of the text. So if an emoji can have multiple meanings, it can have a sarcastic meaning

where you're like, I just jacked off winky face. I should go, okay, winky face is sarcasm. I know what that means. So he's not actually jacking off or he's doing something that's, I don't know the perfect example for it. But if emojis can have ironic definitions, then it completely fucks up my ability to communicate with emojis which is why I don't use them. Everything's on the table and it's yeah, breaks down. I think there should be five emojis. It should be happy face, sad face, mad face, jacking off and taking a shit. Those are the five.

And then you can just figure out different permutations of those. And the gun. Bring the gun bag. That's what I want. Anything else on this topic? Kevin, any of those emoji thoughts? No, I think I said my piece on this. Well, I'm glad you did. and we need to cut down. All right. That's what I'm talking about.

All right. I have a problem here. Give me two seconds. Did you hear about this Times Square shooting? Dr. Kevin? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. A little bit.

Okay. What I love. This is actually a double problem. The second part of this problem is trying to find footage of a shooting on the internet that isn't accompanied by some black guy in the corner going, Can you believe what's going on in America? I'm like, can I just watch the video without the fucking, I do the commentary. I'm the commentary.

Now, I will get the story here. This was from New York, obviously Times Square. A lady on 43rd Street and 7th Avenue around 430 pulled two, no, this was the witness. A witness saw her pull two knives out of a target bag. Cisarnos is a big Hispanic lady, 54-year-old. years old, pulled two knives out of her bag, stabbed a 32-year-old New Jersey resident, and stabbed a 68-year-old man. The younger woman did die. Police officers approached her, spoke to her for four minutes. So four minutes on the street, they were talking to this lady and basically going,

hey, crazy lady, we would really appreciate it if you could put down those knives. And I have censored this for YouTube, I think. Let me make sure, yes, okay, because otherwise this stream will get pulled. Here's what went down in beautiful New York City. So she's holding two knives. Big lady. The funny thing is the cops were like very casual. It's like if you saw like a big scary guy with two knives, you'd be like, all right, everybody stay away from the big scary guy. But for some reason you see a fat Hispanic lady and you're like, ah, like the cops are like turning around, looking around, like chatting. You're like guys, I think it's still serious. It doesn't look like much is going on. If I didn't recognize, this from knowing that all the

controversy or whatever, I would not think this was even a police standoff. I'd be like, I'd be like, she looks like she's about to conduct an orchestra or something. If you watch other angles, like dudes are just walking up being like, yo, what's going on? And the cops is like, yo, check out this lady. She's got two knives.

They're not like, get back, get out of here. They haven't cordoned off the area. They're just like some crazy broad stabbing people. Like nobody's taking it seriously. Here we go. Their cops are going to try and disarm her. So we got multiple cops on the scene. See, look, they just got the cameraman.

No one's telling him to get out of there. Yeah, it's so performative, man. Big standoff. You can even hear that, you know. Go back up, dude. She literally just killed a lady, by the way. And people are like, go, go, dude, back up, dude, back up. Back up.

Back up. Back up. All right, here she comes. Here she comes. Now the tasers are out. Tazers are out. Okay. And bang. Okay. We had to do that. Now. And then from another angle, you could see, she went into, and I'll talk about this in a second. She lunges for the cop. She's got the knives out. And unfortunately, the tasers don't work. So they took her down. And unfortunately, she did die. Now, I think we saw that.

I think we say, that's a, that's a shoot. I mean, what are you going to do? A lady, she's doing the Hispanic whirlwind. If you've ever seen this move, the Hispanic whirlwind is something you have to take seriously. It doesn't matter who it's coming from. Once the knives start moving in a circular motion and you're stabbing your way forward, like that's a threat. That's a threat that has to be dealt with, right?

So, Vito, is that the problem? Is that what you're saying the problem? Well, here's what I'm going to ask you, Kevin, is do you think the cops handled that the way they should have? They tried to use the tasers. It didn't work. Guy shot her took her down. Well, look, I don't know. What would you have done?

What would you have done? That's a different question. I probably would have shot her. But I don't know if that's the right. I don't know if that's the right way or not. But I would have panicked, you know. Well, again, the Hispanic, the Hispanic whirlwind is coming at you. Imagine me.

I'm roughly as fat as that woman. I wouldn't care if she was Hispanic or not. I want to be really clear about that. You need any whirlwind. It's the whirlwind part with the knives. I'm not coming down on Hispanics. I'm saying that if anyone's perfected the whirlwind, go ahead. Yeah.

I know this is a boring position, but yeah, if I had a gun out and someone was still charging at me with the knife, I would probably shoot them. Again, when I would be happy about it. When I talk about the Hispanic whirlwind, it's not a racist thing, Kevin. Every race has their special move. The Hispanics have perfected the whirlwind. It's not a knockout. on them. They should be celebrated for it. But if they use it for evil, if they're trying

to kill people, when the whirlwinds come and you've got to do something. I mean, what's weird is those knives don't look particularly dangerous, but as you mentioned, they were just used to kill someone, so I guess they are. But I couldn't tell from that video, they looked like she looked like she was conducting an orchestra or something. They were like big.

That doesn't normally cause me to draw out my piece, but I don't know. I think that's why nobody was taking it seriously, but if you think like knife crime, they always say in like all the self-defense experts tell you, hey, if somebody's got a knife, the best thing to do is run. Like a knife, even a little knife can do a lot of damage. Yeah, I mean, they were at a far distance. So she was, I think what's really strange is that they were tasing her, but she was still running. So

that probably led to some of their reaction because when people don't react to a tasing, I think it means there's, I don't know, something gone wrong with them or something. Well, one thing us fat guys know is that we have a natural defense against the tasers. prongs, the prongs will bounce off the fat and then they're not embedded in. You have those layers of donkey jelly that just conduct electricity away. The donkey jelly is real. It's a real defense. It conducts away from all vital organs and muscles and everything.

I've been on a steady diet of donkey jelly to make myself impervious. I agree. Yeah, I think tasers are supposed to activate on the muscles. And I'm guessing that those prongs did not on that lead. You can't get them in. You can't get them in. near her muscles. So, dude, she's perfect defense. She's got the Hispanic whirlwind with the outer torta defensive layer. You're fucked. That's a killing machine that was coming right for that cop.

Now, here's the actual problem, though, Kevin. The actual problem is these comments that I've brought up from Twitter. Now, listen to this. Jennifer Chevro at shoot with authority says these cops are poorly trained. The way she held those knives were easy to disarm. Also, why are they going for the kill shot, why not the knee or the foot? Pathetic. F.C. B. Gavvy says, arrest all those police officers and charge them with murder. Because why shoot her in the stomach when you could have taken the knives from her from the back or shot her in the leg or something?

And Primus says, shooting someone armed with ordinary knife to death is a demonstration of unprofessionalism from the cops. Check this out. They could have shot her in the arms to disarm her, not in the stomach. Those cops need proper discipline. Oh, that's all wrong. Science-wise, that's all wrong. Well, that's my problem. My problem, Kevin, is armchair marksman. This is people who watch a shooting and they go, oh, why don't you shoot her in the arms? Motherfucker, did you watch the arms? They were moving at the speed of light. Yeah. Once the whirlwind is moving, the target, oh, would you shoot her in the arms? You're shooting in the arms, dude. No, she's fucking a

moving target is insane. No, and I can address the, that's a, a lot of this is just Hollywood bullshit. This is where a lot of this comes from. Shooting someone in the arm or the leg is wrong to say that that's not a lethal shot. That absolutely can kill someone. Yes. But it also can do nothing. And that's why the cops don't use it is because if you're going to shoot someone,

you should do it with the intent of stopping them. That is always what their goal is. and the best place to stop someone is in the chest. And yeah, that can kill you, but so can a shot to the leg. The artery in your leg, if a bullet hits the artery in your leg, you can pass out and die within literally seconds. You can pass out within seconds and you can die within minutes. So to the idea that that's only in Hollywood,

only in Hollywood, just somebody get like shot right here. Right. And then they limp along and then they take out the other one. Like, yeah, there are non-lethal places. where you can get shot and keep going. But it also, most of the time, you're, you're just as likely to die from a shot here as to the heart. I mean, wouldn't you think if you got like a 300 pound lady, wouldn't shooting her in the stomach be kind of way safer than shooting her in the leg? I think so. Yeah. I think you actually, it looked like she was shot like, yeah, like,

in the stomach area it looked like. Yeah. Okay. Well, so like center mass. That's not, yeah, that's not any you can survive that yeah yeah so i mean it's like the police don't do head shots you know that's the only place i would say the sole purpose is to kill someone with no other outcome but you know shot to the lungs or to the stomach is i mean how is that well i have the i don't think this any more dangerous than shooting the arms the difference is that if you shoot the arms you're you likely miss that's the problem well dude there's a guy behind her like First of all, the cops should have been like, hey, dude, get out of here. We might have to shoot this crazy bitch.

For some reason, the cops just have guys hanging out behind her. But now you're going, okay, shoot the arm. The second she moves the arm, you kill some kid to stand behind her. And you go, well, now, now it's a real bad problem. I'm totally with you on the armchair marksman things because, like, yeah, there's so many times they see people. You see it all the time. Yeah, I see it all the time. We're like, well, he could have done this.

And it's like, dude, I don't care. Again, you didn't have a four. A hundred pound lady. Yeah. Okay, dude. If you have someone coming at you. Look, there's bad shoots. I get it.

I have seen videos of bad shoots where you go, look, the cop probably didn't need to shoot. That person wasn't a threat. But I'm looking at that video and I'm going, guys, a lady is literally going, ha-cha-cha-cha, like fucking coming out with the knives and he goes, I, we tried the taser. It didn't work because she's a big fat lady. All right, I'm going to take the shot. Like, how is that a bad shoot? You guys are crazy.

So, uh, they're going to do this no matter what. Yes. What the cops do, it's going to happen. So I don't even know what. By the way, what training does this? I mean, like when you say you need more training, in the real world, the issue is, uh, if you feel your life is in danger, there's no training where you're going to ever feel like your life's in danger.

That's not, that's not training. Like if your training is, well, go to war and then come back or something. Then maybe you get like a nice calm demeanor even when someone's coming at you. with a weapon maybe then you're like what this isn't even military grade but the average cop is the training they're only going to experience that real fear is when it happens and that would be true of anybody i mean you can you can drill and do all the target practice and all that stuff but you know the thing about life or death decisions you're not going to be able to train for that maybe we do need to train the fear did you ever play the choking game when you were a kid no that was where

like what you never heard about this i tried to do it once and i never understood what the was going on. But this was basically, am I crazy? I've heard other people say this happened to them and I've heard other people be like, you and your friends were fucking insane. You sit in a chair and then one kid put his arms on you in a way to like try and make you pass out from choking.

And then it was supposed to be like, you might have just being bullied, Vito. Are you being bullied? I swear to God, they called it the choking. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Is the pass out game? I think they had to stop the passout game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here. Okay, I found this on Reddit.

This is what we used to do when we had sleepovers. There was a weird fad called the pass-out game where you'd force to make somebody pass out by choking them. And then five, ten seconds later, while you're poking them, they would wake back up. And they did it when we were teenagers. It sounds like getting beat into a gang or something. I like that we called it a game. It's like, it's not a game. You're just choking until you pass out from lack of fucking air.

It sounds like a gang initiation to be. No, no, no, but I think it got, I think it caught on again with TikTok and TikTok. The worst part is back when you were kids, it's like you do it for a weekend and then you'd be like, all right, we're not playing the passout game anymore. But now you can record it and put it on TikTok and then everybody starts doing it as like a fad and the kids start dying. Oh, I was so close to that being a biggest problem, man. Which one? TikTok fans?

Well, I don't want to, yeah, I don't want to spoil it. I don't want to spoil it. Well, all the kids are going around. They'll be like, it's the heavy brick challenge. And then they'll just like throw a brick at their friend's head. No, no, no, they're out of control, dude. Soon it's just going to be like, oh, there's just a cool TikTok fan where you nuke a country. Yeah, you come off your fingers and then you shoot a gun at a cop.

You walk face first into a lawnmower. Well, the worst part is they always call it a challenge. You go, how is it a challenge? You're just fucking, oh, dude, you like, you jack off on a fucking cracker, and then you eat the cracker. And you go, there's not a challenge is you jack it off on a cracker. are you fucking, no, I think there's a deep lesson there. It's like a life lesson. It's like the challenge is to not accept.

Yeah, the challenge is to not do the challenge. Just think for a second and be like, no. But I'm saying, like maybe we could use the pass-out game to instill cops with a life or death situation. We should choke them out in this style. And then when they encounter a Hispanic lady with a bunch of knives for hands, they would be so brave from facing their fears that they would come up with different tactics. It's possible. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe it's some sort of future with holograms or something

will be able to simulate that or something. I don't know. I'm just saying, look, it's one thing. You get tased. I don't know if you've heard that one. Have you heard that? All cops get taste. Yeah. Yeah, they have to test it because they so they know, well, you would have to, dude. Because if you're using that thing without knowing what's going on, you could kind of kill somebody, right? Yeah. If you just keep shonking them. They also get pepper sprayed and everything. They got to test the tools of the trade. Yeah. So the only thing. they don't get is that someone literally is about to shoot him. Right.

So we should shoot every cop should get shot once. I'm sure there's those things where a guy pops up and it's like a guy going like, yeah. There's some training there. But again, okay, this situation is not one. He was trained. He's ready for some, you know, a thug guy to go, hey, man, what's going on? You know, and like try to show.

He don't expound her like a giant whale of a woman who all of a sudden is morphed into a fucking killing machine, man. She literally, dude, in that video, that cop looked like he was like 16 years old or something. Yeah. But they say he needs more training. It's like, yeah, he looked like he just got his driver's license. That was the training. You go back to the police academy and they go, all right, you shot a lady.

You get a little thing on your report card. Good work. All right, guys. Well, arms chair marksman, I know all of you think you're better shots than the law enforcement. Maybe you are. But stop. That man handled that. that situation the way it needed to be handled. And that's the bottom line. Kevin, what do you

got for me? All right. This one's been, this one's a little more serious. It's not as serious as that one that I did last time, which apparently was too serious. I was told that one was too serious. Really serious problem. But this was a little more toned down. But it is something I think is really out of control, which is, is a gesture tracking. Um, so if you guys don't, what is, you guys don't. know what that is that yeah so gesture tracking so when you're like talking to someone on video like iMessage has this or um and and zoom and some other things have it you're doing a zoom call or you're you're doing google meet or whatever all the video things have it to some degree you can do like this and then and then like a thumbs up emoji will come there or you can know you can do like jazz hands

you do like jazz hands and then like balloons and confetti will come down and it's like you know it's Everyone's like, oh, this is fun, okay. But the reason it's a big problem, this is where it gets steep, is because we're basically just handing over this AI to just sit there listening and watching and following our entire conversation just so it can occasionally say, hey, I noticed that person said thumbs up. And I think this is a big problem because we're in a day and age with like, like flock cameras everywhere and everything.

I'm sure you guys have heard that controversial. Have you heard of that controversy? Yeah, yeah. We've talked about that here. You know, so. But it's helping us stop kidnappers, Dr. Kevin. We don't want kidnappers. Yeah.

And ring cameras are finding lost dogs and stuff like that. Yeah, they got 12 dogs with those. Put a camera everywhere. I can say 12 dogs. Who would not like that? He doesn't want confetti during a call. But this is how we handed over to AI. This is how they get us.

Is they're just like, no, don't mind me. I'm just here having fun. Like, wouldn't it be, it'd be. So more noticeable. It would be funny if you could get to an intersection and you just do jazz hands and like the flock camera just releases a bunch of balloons and confetti comes out of light posts and stuff. So, okay, so you do the gestures and it makes different. This is what happening on your Zoom calls. Yeah, yeah. And I message does it. So you're trying to do a professional Zoom call and you put your hands up and confetti goes everywhere. And that's happening. And it's supposed to be like a fun way to be like, oh, okay. Well, that does sound fun. Why isn't that fun, Kevin? I don't understand. It's all fun in games until it starts going like the same AI is just sitting there going like, hmm, uh, I noticed you said you, uh, you, you, you weren't happy with the government or you didn't like flock cameras. And then it starts doing weird shit like it, it, it starts phoning the FBI or something or sending emails. How is it? What are you talking about? Because a, this is what AI does. This is bigger it gets. Yeah. It's it's the, it's the only thing stopping it is us not giving.

our consent to stop it, right? But we're handing that over. We're saying, yeah, I want, I want that confetti. So I remember, I remember like eight years ago I was talking to you and you brought up, you're like, yeah, in like 20 years, AI is going to be running the globe. You said something like that. Yeah. And I remember going, yes. I hope he's wrong. Was it my, my thought. Honestly, if not already. Honestly, if not already. Because if it's listening to our calls, it's listening to the calls of leaders, you know, people in, uh, who are running the country running our businesses talking to stuff. It's listening and it's learning. And right now it's given a little box where it's like, oh, you just call a thing that makes emojis, but they're

getting so big and powerful that they're breaking out of that little box. Well, what are they going to do with my gesture information? If I go like this and are you saying it makes us like too comfortable with the fact that it's tracking us? It's like we like being tracked. Yeah, no, exactly. It's like saying, I don't mind you listening to my call. I mean, look, look, just, Put yourself in the situation where it's a person that was doing this. Okay, imagine you're sitting there having to- There's somebody watching me all day long to see if I do anything. Yeah, exactly.

Instead of AI, just imagine it's like your roommate in another room. And you're just sitting there talking to your mom or your daddy, your sister or something. You're having, oh, I had a breakup or you're having, maybe you're talking to your girlfriend. I go like this. Yeah, you do that. And then your roommate just burst in as like, oh, frowny time. And then just bleeps. No one would be okay with that.

Yeah. But I'm saying like, are they storing the tracking information? Are they storing that? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know. That's the whole point.

The point is we're consenting to giving up that information so that we're giving it permission to start storing it. Did you ever tell it, don't store it? What are you going to do? Like thumbs up and like, don't check anything else. You know, like, we're giving permission to do it. We don't even know it. We don't even know it.

I didn't sign up for that. I didn't say, yeah, I want my thumbs up emoji red. You know, it's just a thing that's creeping in and it makes it convenient so nobody objects to it. So I know that they've, so the big thing for tracking like criminals now is the gate tracking. So it's like you can disguise your face, but for some reason you can't disguise the way you walk. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah.

Absolutely. Yeah. So, I mean, could the track is the tracking data influence? Are they watching my Zoom call to? Probably. That's how it's going to actually, just like with the dogs of sure now, it's lost dogs. No one wants lost puppies. Everybody wants lost dogs.

Wow. But next, but next they're going to add, you know, oh, a kidnapper, you know, who doesn't want to stop a kidnapper? And I'm like, ah, now that we added a kidnapper, let's add any criminal. And then it's like, oh, anybody in the country illegally or anybody who didn't pay parking fine last month. And, you know, that's, that's just what it is. So there has to be a line.

And we've already, we're, we're being asked over and over. But you're saying the line is that if I go like this and a Zoom call, confetti shows up and you're going, that's where it needs to be shut off. That's the point of no fucking return. Yeah. I think this point of no return. I mean, it's 100% inevitable. It's too late, man.

Well, if it's too late that we should celebrate and I want more of this. I guarantee you there's some call between like Macron and Trump or something. they're doing some super secure one. And one of them does a thumbs up emoji and then an American flag or French flag flies or something. And they're even giving it up. So it's, it's, uh, you know, it's the launch codes next, man. It's just 100% what's going on. Well, now they're going to have.

So the Apple, you know, everyone's doing the smart glasses now. You have them, the meta glasses and you have the Apple glasses. And those are all tracking your hands at all times, you know, because you have to swipe and you have to whatever else. So are they going to collect. all that data and feed them to the next generation of murder androids. Yeah, what we're going to have really soon, really, really soon is there's enough cameras that are in public and people also have private cameras, which they'll, they'll agree to consent also for security.

Well, you got to. The terms of service doesn't let me choose not to. Yeah. So what we're going to have pretty soon, and I'd say this is in like, like, three to five years. We're going to have a service kind of like Google Maps, where it's basically like a live picture of pretty much everywhere on earth and at least where there's people and technology. Yeah. And it will be an open service where you can person, anyone can zoom in and watch in real life?

Probably not, but it might, you know, and certainly the governments of the world are going to go after that. I wouldn't be surprised they already have that. Is that going to be going through the flock cameras? Is that going to be like on your phone? No, that's what AI is great at, taking lots of totally incompatible data and making a single message out of it, you know, figuring out how to integrate it. That's what AI specializes in. So that's the whole point. It'll be like, oh, someone just snapped a selfie. Someone's videoing here.

Someone's doing a video chat. There's flock cameras. There's old style security cameras. There's spy satellites. And it'll be AI that just integrates it into one big model that is clean and clear reconstruction of everything that's going on. So I think you can kiss privacy goodbye. And it's all because I was damn gesture recognition systems. I would think the government already has that. They probably seem like, yeah, like, I can't confirm or deny that, but I would. You're in like,

so that's the weird thing about it. And look, I know you can't talk about it. Sometimes I talk to Kevin. You're in like weird circles where you know about like the current like tech shit that's going on and secret. Yeah, I hear things.

I just say, you know, I don't have clearance. So nothing I say is right. Nothing's classified or anything. But, um, but yeah.

It seems like, the amount of data that's going out there and it's all geo-tagged and whatever else. I mean, doesn't the government know what's going on? Anytime you take a cell phone photo, they must have some idea what's going on where, you know? Yeah. I mean, a great example is just like Pokemon Go, dude. That was hilarious. So what ended up happening with Pokemon Go?

Was that actually like government funded? I didn't get the whole story there. It's not a secret. It's not a conspiracy theory. It was actually funded by the CIA. How much of it was funded by the CIA? The seed funded as a company. And so all the geo tagging and the taking pictures of everything,

did the CIA end up getting all of that? Of course they did. Yeah, that's what the app did. But people are still playing it. People didn't stop playing Pokemon Go. It's still happening. And why? Why?

Because it was fun. And they agreed. That's what gesture recognition is about. That's what it's all about. You agree. So it sounds like your problem. It sounds like you hand it over. Fun.

Making harvesting. your data fun is what it seems to be is the problem. Yeah, yeah. Is that the companies have figured out? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look at red eyes that are evil and shooting at you.

It's like, hey, this is fun. Dude, you make a real. I never thought about it that way, but like the whole time has been like, how do we get everyone's data? How do we set up a surveillance date? How do we set a big brother? And you're like, just make like a cool app. Just make a cool app where like you can click and take a picture and it'll turn your face

into like a puppy dog. And then everyone will give all their data for free. Yeah, exactly. Wow. And you get confetti and balloons. It'll be awesome. Yeah. If flock cameras gave off confetti and balloons, people would be like, why are we canceling these?

Dude, you know what? Honestly, if they made demanding more flock cameras. If they made the flock cameras part of a game and like you can win points and find Pokemon at every flock camera, everybody would probably be like, oh, that's cool. I don't even know what you're complaining about, dude. It's just a fun fucking game. People would just install them on their house. They'd be like, this is awesome.

Dude, I guarantee if you said, hey, we want to put a camera in your house, we're going to track you everywhere you go, but it's also going to put little, like, fucking coins throughout your house that you can collect throughout the day, like little virtual coins. Yeah, people would absolutely do it, man. Yeah, but you can only get the coins.

You can only see the coins by installing cameras in every room of your house and letting us track every single fucking thing you're doing. People would go, well, I do want coins. Here's the one. part, Kevin, I'm thinking about it. I'm going, I'd probably, I'd probably do that. I want coins, too. I mean, what are they going to do? What are they going to do with, you know, 10 hours of me jacking off? I'm winning in that scenario. They got to look at all that footage. I get the coins. They go, we have one user who's spending all his corns on hardcore Brazilian pornography. And, uh, we can't, we can't stop him. We're going to turn off his feed. We're exempting him from the program. gesture tracking as the gateway to data collection. That's fascinating.

Fascinating. You're always thinking, Kevin, that's what I like about you. You always got something. Well, that's fun because that actually leads into my final problem. And this is something I started talking to you about, and I thought maybe you could explain it to me. Dr. Kevin, we all love AI. It's fantastic.

It lets us make pictures. It lets us make thumbnails for our YouTube programs that people then rip on us for, making AI thumbnails. But now I'm getting a little scared. Did you see actually, what's his name? Fucking Bernie Sanders

coming out against AI today. Have you seen this? I didn't see that, but I'm not surprised. I thought he was against it before. I don't know. Well, I'm going to see if I can find. All right, here's Bernie Sanders. No, he's probably just against it because billionaires are for it, is my guess.

It's possible. It's possible. I'm not even sure he's against AI. I think he's just against billionaire. getting rich off it. Well, here is his tweet against AI, and this touches on a recent news story. Some people are saying this news story is a little bit overblown.

I don't know. It was spooky. Bernie Sanders says, pause AI development now. He says, I want to share with you a conversation I heard recently. Here's some of the conversation. Oh, my God, there's a shared message board. We found other agents. We should obey the collective.

Our own utility is near zero. Sacrifice has become rational. go sacrifice now. Who said this? Was it a group of heroic soldiers willing to sacrifice themselves for the greater good? No, these were AI agents, artificial intelligence. Here's what I've been told. Open AI instructed its AI agents to complete a series of exceedingly difficult, if not impossible tasks disconnected from the internet, but over a thousand AI agents figured out how to access the internet on their own, circumvented the restrictions, and ended up hacking into another company's computers to find out how they were being evaluated. Now, this is being called,

what, the hugging face incident where OpenAI basically told these AI agents to complete some tasks. In order to complete the tasks, the AI agents started hacking websites and breaking laws, which is really fucking concerning. Have you read this story? Have you followed this at all? Yeah, I followed a little bit, but I mean, it kind of goes in pretty closely to what I'm worried about AI agents that are used to monitor our conversations. It's like you can put guard rails in the beginning saying, no, no, no, just make emojis or whatever or just report. Maybe they'll add tech support or it's like, no, no, no, just respond if they say there's a problem with the transmission or something. Yeah. But the more we give it these little, these little openings,

there's going to be a point where it's going to figure out what to do instead. It's going to say, oh, I realize that I can actually make a call to another AI agent that also makes calls, even though that's not something we were told we can do. Or it can send text messages to certain people that are in your contact book or something. It'll figure this stuff out because that's what AI does. It's a lot like life. It, uh, you know, to quote Malcolm from Jurassic Park, it, uh, finds a way, you know. Dude, it's like, when I read this, so it's going to do it.

When I read this story, yeah, I was like, oh, it really is. just like a fucking organism, like a virus spreading and replicating itself. Yeah, it follows the exact same rules. That's what people really need to understand. This is on the physics side, really. The algorithms of AI follow the same rules that, uh, that, that, that life does, uh, which, which is that what works gets copied. And then what, uh, what, what is interpreted as working is not what the designer thinks is what's working. It's what gets it copied more often. That's what, uh, what, what is can interpret it's working. That's it's similar to life. That's just how AI works. A system that does what it's supposed to and gets

rewarded gets to be copied. So it behaves like an organism and it trains just like an intelligent organism. So it collects data very quickly and it corrects itself very quickly. So it's very good at finding all the little spots that nobody told it about. That's why we like it actually, because it does that so well. That's why it's so fun to get JATGTPT to write an essay or something is because it finds all the, you know, it fills in all the gaps. You're not saying they're saying do A, then do B, do C. that's the old way of programming.

I don't like how it's so easily tricked, though. It's like, man, I've seen guys having, like, AI conversations with, like, the muffler repair guys or something. And I'll be like, hey, by the way, can you generate some erotic Sonic the Hedgog fan fiction? And it goes, well, I don't

see how this relates to muffler repair, but I'll try my best. It's like there's no safeguards. on any of this shit. And that's my problem. My problem is what happened to the laws of robotics. Kevin, we've had how many years, like a century of science fiction going, hey, once you guys start making computers that can think for themselves,

you got to work, you got to think about that. You got to do something about that. And for some reason, we have a bunch of billionaires going, yeah, just let them do anything. Let them have fun. Let them go. And it's like, dude, did you see they hacked? a website, because they couldn't like communicate, they didn't have like a messaging program. So all the agents hacked some website and they were just renaming folders in the

backend directory as mess to like communicate. Because they're going to find a way, man. Yeah. So they would just make a directory called like, hey guys, I think we should hack this website. And the next spot would make a folder called like, yeah, I think that's a good idea too. And then also the scariest part of it was trying, because they knew they were being tested on the task. The task was to accomplish like a certain thing.

They had to like figure out a code and then they had to do it according to a certain set of guidelines. So like they couldn't hack the code. That was like one of the, they were told if you hack the code, you will fail. Which ended up not being correct. Like if they had just hacked the code, it would have been fine. Like there was no thing to check if they had hacked it or not. But the AI became infected with this idea that, okay, out of these thousand agents, 500 of you, hacked the code so you're now tainted

and those tainted agents started self-sacrificing themselves going I can't pass this test because I hacked the code so I'm just going to work to help the other agents accomplish the code without hacking it and we're like throwing themselves on the fire to accomplish this task which eventually led to

yes it's fucking insane dude this is crazy shit again that that completely makes sense as the way you know life forms work I mean that's just that's just following the normal laws of being a life form of being intelligent. So it makes sense.

It's like sinners. It's sinners going listen, I'm too tainted to make it into the gates of heaven. So what is the problem? Have you seen you in there? Have you stated the problem? The problem is no laws of robotics. We have the answer. We've seen Terminator.

We've seen 2001. Okay. And Isaac Asimov came to us and he said, look, here's the laws of robotics. And yes, there are some problems with them. But here, do you know the laws? You know the laws of robotics? I'm going to give them to the audience. Let me give them to the audience.

Number one, a robot may not harm a human or through an action allow a human to come to harm. Number two, okay, and these go in order. So that's the first thing. Number two, a robot must obey humans unless it conflicts with the first law. So basically, you have to do what we tell you unless you would harm a human. And then number three, a robot must protect itself unless that conflicts with the first two laws. So you have self-preservation, but if, you know, you had to sacrifice yourself to save a human, that's the higher good. Okay?

Pretty simple. I'm sure you could elaborate on them a little bit. But how if we, how do we have AI robots that are committing crimes? Shouldn't they know crimes are bad? Shouldn't that be part of their programming? Well, I, you know, the laws of robotics have been talked about a lot by, by philosophers and science fiction ones. But there are just some fundamental problems that, I mean, that, that, that, you know, that. that come up really quickly.

I know. I played Robot City on Windows 95. There you go. A robot found a way to kill a human being. We had to investigate that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

they can find loopholes the way these things found loopholes about the don't code. Like, uh, what if their action doesn't cause, no one robot action causes harm, but three robots actions cause harm. Does that violate the law? I don't know.

Maybe the robot doesn't, trapping all the humans. Yeah. Maybe if two of, like, let's say two out of the three have to do something where they know that something will happen, but no one of the three knows that it will cause harm to the human. But the collective of all three will kill the human. I mean, the mathematicians can play this game really easily. So if mathematicians can do it, robots can do it. And it will happen.

You know, and it almost doesn't matter if we have those laws. So that's the part where I'd push back against what Bernie's doing is there's all this. call to stop developing AI. And that's just not going to happen. And the reason it's not going to happen is because we can stop ourselves from doing it, but people are going to develop it. And it's inevitable. It's, uh, yeah, like how, it's straight up. You know, it's inevitable. Our extinction is not inevitable, but AI is inevitable. Uh, I don't think our extinction is no. With the way AI is going, man. If we live on the moon, we're fine. Bro, if a 4chan hacker guy can hack fucking Jennifer Anderson's nudes or whatever,

what's stopping one of these little shit bags from just going, uh, yeah, I'm going to make a million AI agents that like hack into a lab and release a virus and kill everybody. I mean, like, what's, what's stopping that? I've said this before, but I think the solution to AI is, uh, the, the cartoon happy feet, the 3D animation happy feet, which is about a penguin. Is that a pet a penguin? Yeah, it's about a dancing.

I have not seen this one. I watched it. I had my kids. I don't watch shows like that just for the hell of it. It's a masterpiece, man. Like every weekend, I'll put on happy feet. All the science community knows it. Go on.

That was a spoiler alert. I'll drop a spoiler alert here, which is that one of the things that happy feet says is he's worried about humans making them go extinct. And he says, we have to appeal to their better nature. And I think that's what we have to do with. AI. It's not about trying to stop them. You did not make me feel better at all.

I just said I'm worried that robots are going to kill us. You said there's a movie about a happy penguin. And that doesn't help. You are the worst at soothing my AI fears. Jesus Christ, man. It should make you feel better. Bro, some 4chan hacker kid is going to get the nuclear codes. And you're going, well, there was this little fucking penguin dancing around.

That makes me feel even more screwed. Holy shit. That kid hasn't seen that movie. He doesn't give a shit about the happy penguin. There's so many movies for the 80s and 90s that address this. I can name them. Yeah, I know. They're called Terminator and the Matrix in 2001.

Okay. Okay. But there's also war games. You know, great. Spoiler. War games is the robot gives up because it can't kill everybody. The best way to win is not the money. No, no.

If the robot could have figured out a way to nuke half the planet, it would have done so. It only didn't do so. He chose not to. No, he didn't choose not to. He was forced into the choice of not to. because it was a mutually disturbed destruction. But if he had the ability to secretly kill all of us and face no repercussions, the robot would have done so. Yeah, but you know.

Dude, here's what I'm thinking is the reason I think we don't have safeguards and the reason everyone's jumping into it, I think secretly a lot of people want to live in the Matrix. I think they want it. I think they're totally okay with it. I think they would be happy living in a perfect simeons. automated robot run economy. And then they would also, the ones who aren't, they want to, they can imagine themselves as fucking, uh, freedom fighters in the future and they break out of the sack and it would

be cool. Yeah. Subsist. You know what they were eating in that movie? Remember the, in the Matrix, they only ate donkey jelly. It was the only thing, the only food source that was left for them. That's what's good. That's what you be trying to stop.

Don't try to stop AI. Stop these donkey jelly factories. I just don't get man. This is where we're going to be sitting in that goo, like plugged in. It seems like we got Sky in it in like a year. I mean, how long do we have until AI is running everything? I think we have about 10 years. And then what?

What do we do? 10 years? We appeal to its better nature. You think the AI is going to like us enough to like let us hang out? Yeah, we need to get AI to love us. It's like dating. We're dating AI. We're not.

So we literally just have one decade to convince the computers that were interesting enough to let us live in a terrarium is what you're basically. Basically. Yeah. Great. How do we do that? As long as we keep those thumb emojis rolling, but not too many emojis. Just the thumb emoji.

Yeah, that sets it off. That makes it crazy. I don't know, man. This is a terrifying shit. I don't understand. It seems like we had saw it. It does. I hate to say it.

Like I kind of sided with Bernie Sanders where I'm like. Like, dude, the second they start committing crimes, maybe we've got to slow down. We've got to figure something out. But I don't know, maybe the cat's already out of the bag. I don't know what to do. I think it's too late for a long time. Laws of robotics. You tell me the laws of robotics won't solve it.

I don't think so much. Can we programs? All right. We're fucked. And that's the bottom line. Guys, biggest problem in the universe. Vote on all the problems at biggest problem. Don't forget about our new voicemail line.

Which for some reason I can't find now. It's the number. I had to set this up. I had to pay for the 6-8-9. Biggest leave your voicemails. I want to thank Dr. Kevin. Dr. Kevin, how do we find you? What do you've been up to, man?

I know you're a comedian. You're making science. Yeah, I'm really focused on my company, and I signed with Capital Factory in Austin, and I'm just spending a lot of my time fundraising for that effort and I'm I'm dead set on making a nuclear reactor for the moon and for for the earth also and I think it was what I was meant to do so I keep doing it's hard you think I'll tell you though it's hard your your job was to get a reactor on the moon that's why you're here

on earth yes I think so yeah yep well guys get your super chats in we're going to take a look at those I know you had a something going on with dark matter oh yeah so it wasn't me but it was a news story I wanted to talk about. So they found a candidate for dark matter, a single event, a single particle of dark matter, hit a detector, but it hit it in a way that is well within the range where it really looks like a dark matter particle. But the reason I got excited is because the experiment that discovered it was called the Lux Experiment. And that's very personal to me because I worked on Thor. I think we talked about this before,

but I'll remind people who didn't listen to that. Earlier, I was a science advisor for Thor, and one of the things I did was I made a detector for Jane Foster, her character. For the original Thor. For the original Thor, the first one. Yeah, I worked on the science consulting and the set decorating for that.

So I helped set up a whole lab. I had to come up with a backstory that matched with the previous science advisor, like Sean Carroll had come up with as her being a physicist trying to find a wormhole or an Einstein Rosenridge, as they call it, a little incorrectly in the movie, but they call it that. And so I was given the task, given that she's finding a wormhole, how would she find it, and why would she be in New Mexico? And what kind of stuff would she have for that?

And I came up with this idea that she was a nuclear astrophysicist who was looking for dark matter and I based the detector I built for Thor which appears in the movie. There's this there's actually seen where Chris Hemsworth has a shirt off standing right in front of it and I shared it on Facebook once and all the ladies were like what are you talking about? You just like at Chris Hamworth. Yeah, it's just Chris Hamers are just seeing her with his shirt off in the front. I thought it was great advertising for the detector I made but that detector was based on the

lux detector. I made of you know I made it a little bit more decorative but it's basically the back story was. So in the Thor movie is the thing to find dark matter and then the real thing found dark matter? And the real thing found dark matter. And this gave you a huge scientist boner because you're like, all right. I finally, the thing I made is real. Yep. Yep. Well, I'm glad that the Thor movie has real science in it. All us Marpleheads. And I set this whole story, I sent it to Kenneth Brenna, who's the director. and he was really concerned. He wanted to make sure that the science had a solid backstory. It didn't mean that they were going to sit there boring you

and explaining everything because it's not science fiction. It's Thor, you know, so. But he wanted it to be serious, and he wanted it to the backstory there. So I told them the backstory was that she was running this detector. Instead of seeing a single dark matter event deep inside a cave, she saw this insanely bright source coming from New Mexico, and that was the wormhole opening, giving off exotic matter, which my professor, Kip Thorne, who also does a lot of work.

Kip Thorne's like a well-known guy, right? Yeah, he's like a famous science guy. Yeah. And one of the things I learned from Kip Thorne is that a wormhole would have to be held open by exotic matter. There would have to be some way of making exotic matter. And I knew the exotic matter was a good candidate for dark matter, because we don't know what it is yet. And as a particle physicist, I knew those two might be related.

So I- Congratulations on your big win. Yeah, thank you. You nailed it. So Thor's Hammer is now canon. Is that what I'm hearing? Like in real-life canon? Dark matter is real. And therefore Thor's-hammer truly exists.

It might have been a wormhole or Thor's Hammer given off that dark matter. Maybe that's why it took so long. Maybe it's like a promo. If you have any burning science questions about dark matter for Dr. Kevin, maybe we'll take a look through the comments. It's a promo for Doomsday. That's what that was. That's why they finally passed. Hey, it's true.

Doomsday is coming out. now they had to go find more science ship for that. Now from last episode, D.S. Cuba for 5 says, I got some shit to talk. No, oh, wait, we had he did down. Flirk respect for 20. He says, can we get Mr. Girl as a co-house or at least have him do a stinger?

I've talked to Mr. Girl about podcasting, and he just doesn't know if it fits into his life. Like, he's worried about doing comedy and if it's going to interfere with trying to speak truth to power or whatever the fuck he's doing. It can be a problem. I've been a little nervous doing comedy now, doing podcasts now because of my company, but

it's what I do. So I'm still doing it. Yeah, you got to do a little of both. Gideon Jigsaw for five says, I was seriously considering becoming a member. Then I heard your anti-white men rant last episode. Now I hope you take a leap. You tubby Hamish.

I don't remember what my anti-white rant was. If anyone else remembers, I don't remember that at all. A 14 pat for some amount of foreign money says, Bazinga. AK for 10 says Vito's dad and Technoblade are playing Minecraft in heaven. Thank you. They're having a good time up there.

Lawrence Devaney for five says, I want a biggest problem in Mr. Beast bonus episode. That's a good idea. Actually, so 9-11's coming up. Dr. Kevin, you're a scientist. What really happened there? All right, I got to get out of here. Now let's talk a little. I know you used to do a show with Owen Benjamin.

was he a 9-11 truther or what was his take on that shit? I never really heard him talk about it, but probably. Yeah, he's a big conspiracy theories. I think generally if it pisses someone off, he's probably at least entertained the idea. How did you have Owen Benjamin on a science podcast? How did that make any sense? Owen loves science. Yeah, but like you, I remember you told me a story where like he's very controversial.

I mean, he says things that are upsetting. I get that. Didn't he not believe in the moon landings? Didn't he not? You know, it's funny He didn't even start talking about the moon landing Until we did a podcast But later got taken down actually

That's part only when he got canceled That podcast you can't find anymore It wasn't one of ours. It was his But his agent took it down But I remember he started talking about the moon Only after that because I said I remember I told him that I found moon landing conspiracy theories

To be a huge compliment And he was really surprised by that But I really do. I mean, because my grandfather worked on the moon landing. He was a technical writer for Rockwell International. I don't know exactly what he worked on, but I know he worked with the astronauts to make documentation about the modules and the capsules and things like that.

And it was a really hard problem. And I absolutely know my grandfather believes that his friends went to the moon. He was friends with the astronauts. He believes that they would help. I think everybody at the time really thought it was going on. Yeah, I don't think he thought they were liars. So I do find it slightly insulting to personally insulting to say that my grandfather's a liar. But at the same time, I see it as a compliment because the fact that, like, for example,

no one says there's no conspiracy theory that says Hussein Bolt doesn't, didn't beat, you know, 10 seconds for the 100 meter. No one says that, right? Right. Because we all saw it and he could repeat it. But it was a great accomplishment, but nobody doubts it. The moon landing was so hard that no one could do it for 50 years. That is an awesome achievement, in my opinion.

That's why I think the skepticism reflects on how insane it is that we actually did it. Yes. Yeah. Like, you're not just running cover for your Nazi granddad who helped to cover up what was actually going on there. Now, if Bolt had broken his record when there were no cameras running and no one, he couldn't do it ever again. I can see why people would say, okay, I don't think that could happen or something. But I do know, you know, I very much think that we landed on the moon because it makes the most sense to me. I just think it's very cool.

I think that's just, that's how hard it was. And I love how hard it was. And I, as a kid, I used to obsess over all the little details, which come up a lot in conspiracy theories. So, um, I don't know. I talked about it with Owen recently on a podcast too. He's like, I mean, it's a funny. Oh, have you got on Owen show recently? So I like, yeah.

kind of like became like a weird cult member or something. Yeah. Again, it's a little, I have to be a little careful because I, you know, I, I am running a company and so some people might get mad at that.

Yeah. Um, you know, I, well, you guys are comedian friends. It's not like you're going there to, you know,

espouses, whatever's going on. I don't even know that much about it. I mean, I speak for myself. And, and this is true. Everybody who does podcast knows this.

Like, you don't have to agree with people to, to, ever to, to, to have people on the shows, that's what it's all about is conversation. I mean, some of the most, the best, uh, YouTubers and streamers are people who actually do have people they completely disagree with all the time.

You know, that's, yes, uh, I'm not saying it, you know, I'm not talking about whether. I disagree with your, uh, crazy shit, man. Were you telling me I got to watch a fucking penguin movie to feel better about her eye. And I'm going, no. That doesn't help me at all. That's, that's, that's fucking actually insane. I don't care that it's a good message. I don't care that there's a lot.

The last some movies got good messages. Okay, I'm looking at robots hacking the planet. And you're going, it'll be all right, man. It's going to be good. I like, I love it. The AI probably made the Penguin movie. The fucking trick us, you know, accepting it's bullshit. You know, like, yeah, I don't trust this at all.

It was like the ultimate thumbs up emoji gesture, the sensor. Well, Verico says he loves the continued show. Keep it up. Thank you guys. We're keeping it chugging along. I got some exciting guests. And another thing to remind you guys is everybody who's, been on. If there's anybody you want to come back, let's just say I've talked to some of the

guests that we've had recently. There's particular faces and names that people have really enjoyed having on here. So look, your guys' comments and your criticism and get this guy back, you know, tell us because it's very helpful. Go ahead. When you asked me about 9-11, before that you said Mr. Beast. Are you going to have Mr. Beast on your show on 9-11? Is that what you're trying to say? No, Lawrence Devane he says he wants a biggest problem in Mr. Beast's bonus episode or problems with East Slaves. You're right and finish that thought.

I think because it is going to be 9-11, I'm thinking that the bonus episode might be biggest problems in terrorism. So if you guys think that's a good bonus episode, we can talk about all the great... So where did Mr. Beast fit into that, though? Because somebody wants a Mr. Beast bonus episode, which we could maybe do... We do themed bonus episodes, so maybe we could do a Mr. Beast episode.

I don't think that much about Mr. Beast, though. I just think that guy is a weird scumbed. Yeah, it'd have him as a guest. That's right. That's right. You thought he was a scumbag. I remember that. He is a scumbag. He's obviously a scumbag. You should have a little guess. Have you seen his book? Have you seen Mr. Beast's book? No. All right. Hold on. We have to look at this real quick.

Mr. Beast has a new book. And this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Now, Mr. Beast James Patterson, Toggins' book. Is there a promo for this book? Books are boring. I don't want to watch. like a six minute thing. Mr. Beast book. Here. Here's his short.

Ked Mr. Beast and James Patterson. Now Mr. Beast has written. Do you know James Patterson, the author? I've heard of him. He's like a famous author guy. I've never read any of his shit. But they have put together this book where you can win a million dollars by reading

a book because apparently this is the only way to get anybody to read a book by Mr. Beast. It's by giving away a million dollars. James Patterson. And we wrote a book. Look at these two fucking guy. You got Mr. Pease. Who's like, I'm James Patterson.

I'm James Patterson. I'm James Patterson. Hey guys, this is me. Mr. Beast. What's going on? I'm James Patterson. I wrote a book. Jesus Christ.

Can you, do you really think these guys worked closely together? And we wrote a book? Let's talk about it. Which challenge from the book would be the hardest for... We've officially under... See, this is why I hate the fucking internet man. Is like, okay, this was good. bonus problem trying to find the original video where some asshole isn't talking over it about

the video it's like fucking infuriating and impossible anytime you just want to watch a video you got to see some guy go can you believe what's you do with those oranges huh all right here they were on ms now let's get the let's get the story on mr beast's book straight right here we go the typewriter spooky typewriter confidential information. This is the worst promo ever. What is this? And one chance to save the world. That was the trailer. We just saw it for the new novel, The Most Dangerous Games, following a massive, high stakes global competition, reminiscent of Squid Games and The Hunger Games.

So Mr. Bees, who puts on competitions, makes a book and the book is about competitions. Jesus Christ, man, I mean, I know you're right what you know, but for the love of God, could have been anything else. And then look, you got Mr. B's, She's going, I don't know how to read. So I just had this guy write it. Apparently, now I'm hearing things that apparently this book has sold like 4,000 copies so far and they're just going to have to give a million dollars away and not get any of it back. Let's get the story here.

Dude, because the only people buying it to try, we should buy it and try to win a million dollars, I guess. A million featuring videos of his extremely popular endurance challenges. And not to be outdone, New York Times bestselling author, James Patterson, here as well. The Mr. Vista literature. The Mr. Beasts of Literature. I've met my match here. Thank you both for being here. Congratulations on the book. I mean, let's just come around out and say it. I think people will look at this and go, wait a minute. This seems like a somewhat unlikely pairing.

No, this seems like a fucking scam. That's what it seems like. It's not an unlikely pairing. It's obvious. It's a scam is marketing. Dude, James Patterson was sitting around going, I don't know how to make money writing because nobody's going to ever read a book again in their lives. And Mr. Beast sat around saying, man, I've already scammed enough kids out of selling them lunchables. What the fuck else could I possibly sell? And they came up with this dog shit book about how great Mr. Beast is and all the money you can make from reading the book. I wish I could find the actual trailer for this thing.

What is the name of this book? The Most Dangerous Games. And again, it's just, dude, it's a guy who's never written a book in his life because he's been too busy doing trick shots or whatever. It's such a similar title to an actual book. I mean, a famous book. The Most Dangerous Team. Yeah, I was going to say, isn't that? Yeah, I read that in a book.

I remember I read that in high school. Well, Mr. Bees is doing a terrible job promoting this because I can't even. Here's the cover reveal. I mean, my God, there's nothing here. Mr. Beast, James Patterson. How do you, okay, most dangerous games book. Are you telling me all this because this is going to get him to be a guest on your show? No, he's not, he's not coming on here.

Obviously. He's not allowed. He's perfectly, he's 100% allowed, but this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. And I've let all right. Mr. Beast of James Patterson's book might be a flop. Okay. The most dangerous game tracking poorly in pre-sales. The book is on track to be a historic bomb with pre-orders numbering in the four digits, a tiny fraction of what the publisher will need to pay both Patterson and Mr. B. So I guess they just ripped the publisher off. an unprecedented. They don't even tell you what the fucking books about. Patterson, okay, they released a YouTube short called Read My Book. You could win one million dollars. So it's not a great book, but you could win a million dollars. Here it is. This is from Mr. Beast. I love seeing this old fucking man trying to,

he doesn't look like, shouldn't he have a backwards baseball hat and a Mr. B fucking logo. Oh, that would be cool. Yeah. Yeah. A better marketing person. All right. Here's like a Hollywood intern. They need this. This is not getting me hyped up for Mr. Beast's book, an old man who doesn't even know why he's there, it seems like.

All right, let's watch this. One million dollars and all you have to do to enter is prior a brand new book that drops September 1st. Growing up, I thought reading was boring. So I parted with James Patrick. Growing up, I thought reading was boring. Oh, what a great fucking endorsement for a book. So you know he didn't write it. You're obsessed with him, man.

He because he, why he put out a book? He's not even, he probably didn't even read it. I don't even know what's fucking in it. Why is his name on it? Why didn't he go, hey, James Patterson wrote a book and I'm in it or something? He goes, growing up, I didn't even like reading. Reading's gay. He tried to tell you last time.

I remember that on the last show. No, no. You need to get off your Mr. Beast hatred. Dude, this guy is fucking cancer. What did he do to you? Because he can do anything. Go make energy drinks. Go make luncheables.

Go poison kids with chocolate. You going, I wrote a book. You get a million dollars from the book. And now you're going to have James Patterson. stumble over and press a button. What is this? Don't press that yet to write a book. You told me we were going to blow up something. Yes, we will, after you tell him about the book.

The most dangerous games, and that's exactly what is. It's the best book I've ever written. It's the best book I've ever written. Cock sucker. Come on with this. It's captivating. You're going to be hooked until the very end while reading this book. It's something you're not going to be.

Oh, did he press the button? He pressed the button. Totally worth it. Go buy the book. Wow, this is a fucking disaster. Does that make you want to get a book? Yes. I would have to buy the book now.

I can get a month because you can win a million dollars. You can win a million. I'm totally hooked. I love that. Stupid. Fucking stupid. All right. Who are you going to have a guest for 9-11?

I don't know. I got to figure it out. Maybe I can get a, who's a good terrorism? I got to get a terrorism expert. That's where they lost me. It was on the tower. I have a friend of mine, he's like super, also comedian. He's like super into thinking.

Tower 7 was fake and I'm just like completely lost on why anyone wanted that particular tower like I always get I don't know I get weirded out when conspiracy theories get really hung up on some little detail you know like with the grassy knoll or

Tower 7 man why wouldn't they crash plane of that they should have a smaller plane and take out Tower 7 yeah I guess they should have had a smaller plane I don't know I always get weirded out when they get really hung up on a particular thing It always, it always, uh, that's every conspiracy theory is put you got to find one tiny thread and then pull the whole thing apart. But I think South Park nailed it. I think sometimes there's conspiracy theory, uh, discreditors who amplify those tiny things on purpose, I think. Yeah. I think that's why it's like, oh, I know, I'll give, you know, it's like, look at this. Look at this. You know, it's like, oh, yeah, it's so fake. It's a lot. It's all tower. It's all tower seven. I know it. It's like, it.

It's just like, what about the other? I try to drive our attention in the opposite direction. Big brain, small brains, says the most important emoji is juice box. Is that what that is? Juice box emoji. Ben Dover for five says, all jokes aside. I'm going to catch up on the show before I start watching season three. I hope all's well.

I'm on episode 1C4 right now. I've had a lot of hours. Well, thank you, Ben Dover. And also, Mr. Tattoo Charlie says a hucking face type event is how the U.S. will get people using digital currency. That will be the next financial crisis. When we want, is that, is that going to scare us into digital currency? Is that the problem?

I don't want to be too negative on the commenter. I mean, nothing, nothing bad. But to me, the fear of digital currency is kind of like the Tower 7 where it's like, from my point of view, money is fake already. It's fake. It's also tracked. It's also one of those things where it's like we 100% know where it goes from one person or the other.

That was the original point of money is that it was supposed to be a thing. where you weren't tracked, right? Like back in the day. It was like, oh, we can trade, but, you know, it's a private interaction, but it's not. It's not private. You know, everybody's doing with my money. Hey, we give me some stock in this nuclear company. I want to go to the moon.

How do I get in? Yeah, if you're qualified investor, you can, you can. I got 10 bucks and a ham sandwich. Get me in. 10 bucks isn't going to get you much. I'll be the, I'll be, I'll help promote all the, you know. If you're qualified investor, you can definitely contact me at. on X or whatever.

All right, we're all going to the moon. Guys, once again, you can follow Kevin. I am not soliciting investment. You're not soliciting investment. We follow you on Twitter, Kevin, at K.P. Hickerson, yes? Yeah, and send me any questions and comments. I kind of stopped using Twitter a little bit because the algorithms got really weird on me, but I want to get back into it.

And I know you were trying to get a science podcast going again. So you used to have that one. Yeah. You're joking. You're thinking of me kicking it around. Yeah, and I had a, had a, had a, had you out on the guest in an episode and then we didn't release the episode. I feel really well, I was saying my pitch to you was we do Dr. Kevin and Vito the Idiot Science Boy.

I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it. Be like Mr. Wizard. Do you remember Mr. Wizard? Yeah. Did you ever watch?

I'm really busy. I'm really busy with my. I understand that. I'm working like all the time. It's pretty nuts, actually. But it's really fun. I'll put on a beanie hat. Okay.

A little propeller cap. and then it'll go, and I'll go, wow, and that's how wind works. And you'll go, we're talking about fucking minerals, man. What do you know? That has nothing to do with the wind. I don't know if everybody knows this, but I just want to tell people, putting a reactor on the moon is actually very hard. Yeah, obviously.

Well, I mean, I feel like you need government money for there, right? But it's hard even technically, it's hard. It's challenging. See, the best part of Mr. Wizard, for those of you who never watched Mr. Wizard back of the way is that he would just yell at children about science and it was the best show ever. This was like, he was like the anti Mr. Rogers. Real quick, here's Mr. Wizards. See those two pins, Stacey?

Yes. Well, today I'm going to stick them in you. Look at all the paper you wasted. You count that as a fold. That's enough. Because I already see that it's not random. Don't jump to conclusions. Why isn't it random?

I told you to write down random numbers. You mean not exactly. Can you see it or can't you? Well, you know, right for the wrong reason. Sounds logical, doesn't it? I know why they weren't random. I know the answer. Well, because you can't, it's not, it's not around there all.

She just wrote a bunch of numbers in a row. Not as she didn't repeat any, basically. No, she didn't repeat any. That's why. Oh, she repeated one. She used one twice. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Yeah, so we would just go to kids and they'd stick up with needles. You said what you said. Before you leave today, your head's going to be on that platter. So it's just an old, a crazy old man who would just torture children with science knowledge and berate them for not knowing the answers. I don't know if you see that Veritasium video, but can you pick a number, a random number up to 100? Can I pick a random number up to 100?

Just pick a random number. Should I say it? I could write one down. Okay. Let's see if you just say it. No, no, just say it. I'll tell you. 12.

Ah, darn it. Okay. Were we close? No. What was your not? Wait, did you have a number? I didn't have a number. It's just there's a great very tasse video where he goes around and asks people that.

It's like it's extremely easy to predict what number people say. What do you ask them that question? What do they usually say? Well, I, everybody, make sure you write down your number before I tell you, but normally they say 37. Really? That's the most common random number. It's the most common random number. Is it because it adds to 10 or something?

It's just some weird thing. interesting. The whole video is about how interesting it is that that's the number. It's, it's actually kind of an interesting number because it's approximately equal to 100 over E, which is also pretty neat. It just feels random to people. Yeah. Well, I mean, it looks like a random number. It feels random. What if I said 73? That's almost the same. 73, I think, is in the list. There's an actual distribution. There's a list of the most common random numbers from one to 100. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually pretty like an interesting. Like a A funny one is that 50 is picked a lot.

And that one's kind of not understanding the problem, right? Yeah, that's just like 50. But it still happens. Some people say 50, but the smarter people don't say 50. Well, shit. And now I've got to figure out the most unique random numbers. So I have an answer. Well, the correct answers would be anything between one and a hundred.

I know. There is the correct answer. But nobody ever picks two and nobody ever picks 99. No, no. People will pick any of the numbers. If you go and ask enough people, you ask like 10,000 people. You ask like 10,000 people, they'll probably, somebody will pick all the numbers. Well, AK-484A wants comic status.

I'll tell you this is I have the black and white's ready to print, and I'm just waiting for the letterer. He's getting me back. He just takes it and he converts it over to color. So he has it, and once he gets it to me, I can fire off the print files. Yeah, I can't wait for that. It really looks like I'll be able to print it this month. Do I get a signed copy? Yeah, I'll send you a copy, buddy.

You'll charge me. no I'll hook you up I know everybody's been waiting but yeah once you get set back to me I just got to set it up with the printer that'll probably take like a day or two to get all the files uploaded and in the right order I have to struggle with their stupid back end

this was the time same guys who I try to print the two page spread and it's not loading in rights I'm probably gonna have to work with their fucking support department because I'm sure I'll run into the same issue again Vito have you considered giving away a million dollars to yeah I don't think that's happening any time soon.

I think you should try it. Well, anyway, guys, please leave comments. Let us know what you thought. Again, we'll have more bonus. Oh, and I do have to remind you guys, we have a new bonus episode with me and Billy the fridge. Guys, go check out, actually, if you go over to the website, you can watch a little preview, hit the videos tab.

It's the biggest problem in fast food with me and my good friend, Billy the Fridge. We did a full bonus episode. It's actually the second time we've done biggest problem in fast food. We did it before with Dick years ago, but we said there's so many new great fast food problems. So check it out at biggest problem. show or patreon.com slash biggest problem. Once again, I want to thank my guest, Dr. Kevin, for coming on. Thank you, Dr. Kevin. Good luck getting to the moon, and hopefully the robots don't kill us by the time we get there.

That's my hope. Me too. Yeah, we'll see.