The Bill Simmons Podcast - 2025 NFL Teams as Classic Action Movies, With Kyle Brandt and Joe House

Episode Date: August 25, 2025

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It was a really fun one. We had a couple pods that are launching and relaunching. We launched last week, The Ringer Tailgate, a college football podcast with Tate Frazier, Van Lathen, Joe Anderson. First Ones up. They're going to be going live after the late college football games. on Saturday, so around 4 p.m. Pacific time. I thought the first episode was really, really good. I was excited about it. Do you listen to any of that house?

I haven't had a chance to yet, but I'm excited for college football season. So those guys guiding the way is going to be awesome. So check that out. That's going to be on YouTube as well. But if you like college football, we've been doing this since the Greenland days. I feel like we finally cracked the code with one of these. And we also have Todd McShay. He's going to be, you know, we've had his podcast now for almost the last year, but we had that.

So I feel like we're finally in a good place for college. Football, we're also going to be doing something on the revamped Ringer Gambling show, which relaunches on Monday with some new lineups. And the gimmick for that this year is we're going to be going noon ET live every day, like a TV show. And we felt like that was like the best possible time to do the show because you could go backwards, but it's also just enough time to talk about that night's games if it's on a Thursday.

And on that YouTube channel, we'll be doing a lot of, like, shorts and picks where some of the stuff, like, that maybe we don't even get to on a pod for a week, but even Premier League, some golf stuff, baseball as we get into the playoffs. So we're really going to try to go all out on the gambling thing, but it's going to be concerted Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, noon ET, live on YouTube. And then Sheila relaunched the Ringer NFL show. Awesome. So that's our third one. And that's been going every day. And I thought he had a great first week. Can't wait to go on that podcast as well.

So coming up on this podcast, I had to try a crazy gimmick because we don't have Cousin Sal. We're doing the over-unders later this week, the annual over-unders podcast. Brock Kyle Brannon, we decided to rank the AFC teams and the NFC teams and do action movies. And I'll explain it after we do the break and then Pearl Jam. But it's a gimmick that I wasn't positive going to be worked, but I had a great time. It went a half hour longer than I thought it would. And we dedicated to Tommy Fleetwood, who finally got off to shine today. Congrats to him.

Anyway, taking a break. Pearl Jam, Joe House, Kyle Brandt next. All right, we're taping this little after 3 o'clock Pacific time on Sunday. House and I are on a high because our guy Tommy Fleetwood finally pulled it off, Kyle Brandt. I don't know. He finally won a PGA tournament. Not just any, though. The Tour Championship, 10 million bucks.

Yeah, he kept falling out. It was the equivalent of if Josh. Allen had just kept losing playoff games but also they were they were his fault every time and then he finally won the Super Bowl which maybe that will happen this year your guy Josh Allen so Kyle Brands here Joe House is here and we have an absolutely ridiculous gimmick that I'm not even sure the two of you fully understand definitely don't but we're plowing ahead anyway I think it to text Kyle Brandt and I said we're going to rank the 16 teams in the and the 16 teams in the NFC.

We're going to go from 1 to 16. And we're going to assign an action movie from our wheelhouse era of 1984 to 1996 and an action movie that fits the profile for each team. It wasn't even coherent when I sent it to you. You immediately understood because that's what we have. I was at the gym. It was one of those where I'm texting while I'm at the gym like an asshole. And I see something, Bill concox some kind of like Long Island iced tea of football.

in 80s movies. I'm like, I don't know what the fuck this is. Yeah, sure. I don't know. I don't follow it. I still don't follow it, but it sounds fun and I want to drink it. So let's do it. It's literally the most Bill Simmons thing ever. Like, you know, it's a year. Well, I like that. The problem for Kyle Brayton and I is there's some action movies that we're probably never going to do on the rewatchables because they might not even be that rewatchable. So it's an excuse both to hit a couple. Plus go backwards at movies we've already covered and just try to thread the needle as much as we can. Let's just say, Bill, I got a fastball coming from my KB secret pick choice.

I got one coming that we have never covered. And I don't think we're allowed to cover on the Bewasseables, but we may cover it today. I can't wait. So what we're going to do, we are going to go AFC and then NFC. And Kyle's going to get first pick. I get second pick.

Kouse gets third pick. And we're going to go basically two trios, first six teams. Then Kyle and I have seven and eight. Then we go back and we'll finish the thing. And when House is up, because House doesn't know these movies as well as us, Yeah.

He's going to give us the profile of what we're thinking. Right. We're going to be standing at the dinner table next to him in our Somaya outfits. And he's going to be like, I need an action movie for the Houston Texans. Yeah. It's kind of a one-man show. I don't really have high expectations for them, but I think they'll be entertaining. And then we will so my A with him and figure it out. Yeah, well, like, sir, you want an estate cabernet, something from the Seagall vineyards with some

good legs later. We got you covered House. I'm so excited for this. My question, Bill, is like, if I, if I give my AFC team, whoever is number one, and I assign a movie to it, then that movie is off limits. Like, it's taken, it's done. Movies off the board. That's why it's much like eating with House. It's not competitive. We're not trying to win. Nobody's going to leave.

But once it's off the table, it's gone. Once off table, it's off the table, but we're all eating. We're all sharing food. It's not a zero-sum game. Great. We're trying to win. So here's what we did, because we're going to do the AFC and the NFC, but I sent you four divisions of movies. And, I mean, these divisions are incredible, just for the record. The Stallone division, obviously, he was going to get one. So that's eight movies.

That is over the top, Cobra, Cliffhanger, First Blood, Rocky Ford, Tangone Cash, demolition man, and Rambo First Blood Part 2. Was there a Stallone movie you felt like was missing? Is there a case you want to make for anything I left off? Daylight. I just love Bill. So when you sit down to type out the over the the Stallone division, your first two are over the top in Cobra. That just tells everything about you.

All the movies he's done, those are the first two on the menu. Well, it's great. And you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because obviously, Cobra has to be on here. And for me, over the top, and there's good football parallels. There are a couple good teams for that.

Like, how is, allegedly, the best sports movie of all time. Like, I like Cobra way more than Rocky, just so you know where I'm coming from. I've listened to some of the pods with you guys. I get it. And so Rocky Four is technically a sports movie, but for us, it's also an action movie. Sure. He's taking on, you know, not just Drago, who's fueled by steroids, but he's also ending the Cold War. There's real stakes.

So we have that. Anyway, that's the Stallone Division. Schwarzenegger gets his own division. And what's great about Schwarzenegger is there could have been three more movies in here. But we got Predator, The Terminator, Total Recall, True Lies, Commando, the Running Man. Last Action Hero, and Kindergarten Cop, a movie that Kyle Brandt tosses my way on text every once in a while, just to make sure he knows that I know that he knows that he's ready for it. I watched it with my son recently.

Very strange storyline about domestic violence in the middle of the way. I have no idea where that's coming from, but it's all there. We'll get to kindergarten cop house. Okay. And then Stephen Segal and Jean-Claude Van Damme. You had to put him together. Van Dam. I'm just going to say Van Damme, Van Dam, over and over again.

neither of them really had enough movies for their own division but what they did is they each had four great movies to share division so we did Out for Justice Above the Law under siege mark for death

the only seagall movie Kyle and I have not done on the rewatchables those are the four seagals blood support sudden death kickboxer double impact so House when you're making

one of your picks maybe Kyle just thinks about it and goes it feels like you're leaning towards something in the Jean-Claude vintage maybe a kickboxer.

So that's that division. Wild car division. That's the last one. Toy Soldiers, Point Break, Action Jackson, passenger 57, and Roadhouse. And then we each get a random, you don't know what the movie is. So people are going to hear this and go,

well, wait a second. You're doing the apex of all these movies, but there's some stuff missing. So what happened? Well, I may die hard and eligible. It's too good. It's in a different draft. It's in like the best movies of the day's draft.

Speed is ineligible, The Fugitive, Terminator 2, Lethal Weapon 1 and 2. They're just too elevated. They don't want to be swimming in these pools. You okay with that, Kyle? Yeah, I mean, listen, I struggled with a team. I'm not even going to say it. I struggled with a team that is so good in the NFL right now.

I thought it deserves something like one of the taboos like Terminator 2, but we'll have to fit something with it. You have a random pick. You might be able to do it. I do, but my random pick is a shitty movie. The last one I went going for. I'm not surprised at all. The funny thing for me is Toy Soldier was just a toy soldiers was an automatic.

We did it on the rewatchables, I think, two years ago. I love it. I have a perfect team for it. I hope it survives until we get to our team. Anyway, AFC. So this is it. The movie comes off the table. The team comes off the table.

Yeah. Kyle Brandt, first pick, AFC. Who is your one seed? The season ends 18 weeks from now. now, or 19 weeks, but 18 weeks. Who is the number one seat in the AFC? The number one scene, I'm going to go with Kansas City Chiefs. I'm going to go with the Chiefs.

Yeah, and listen, I'm not going to mess around here. I'm going to go with Rocky Four. We are deep into the franchise now. We're already in the fourth movie. It should be getting shitty by now, but it's not. And it's an incredible testament to them that the fourth movie is arguably the best one. You have Mahomes as Drago, this like unstoppable force in the AFC, it nearly every year. And the Kelsey piece,

Kelsey, I see House as this like kind of old, aged, lovable wingman. Kelsey is Pauley, which if anyone's wondering, would then make Taylor or Pauley's robot, which is the best part in the whole movie. I have Rocky 4 and the Chiefs number one. Here we go. That's unbelievable.

That was great. Hop and running. That's right. When there's another movie that when it pops up, I'm going to explain why that was my Chief's pick. But I love the Rocky 4 thing. Yeah. It's like the franchise that we really going to do this again. It's all the same characters, same narratives. But holy shit, I'm enjoying myself. How's weird? Do you have Kansas City

winning the AFC West? Yes, I do have them winning the AFC West. And I've called this. Yeah. Yeah. Bill, my question for you quickly about Kansas City is like, are you seeing sense memories with the chiefs now that you had with the Patriots? Like, I'm at the place where I'm kind of getting bored of the chiefs. Like, I don't think they're terribly interesting, but they're just because they're so good. And I'm a lot of of the same feelings are coming out from the middle of the Pats run. First of all, thank you.

Yeah. Because we always like when the Pats get organically brought up into the pod. Oh, Brad, you don't have to suck up to him. It wasn't a suckup. It was a legitimate football question. At this stage of the podcasting between the two of you, you can tell it like

it is, Kyle Brandt. Well, listen, if you think I'm sucking up to the Patriots, wait till you hear the movie I compare them to, so that's not going to happen. Good. I think people didn't like the Patriots And I still feel like people, most people like the chiefs is my take. Maybe I'm missing it completely, but I still feel like if you're talking about the seesaw,

I hate those guys versus I like those guys. It still feels like they're in the I like the guys camp. You disagree or no? The officiating thing was tough. The turnoff to Taylor thing was tough. Yeah. But listen, the Patriots had sex and drugs and murder and gates and all this shit to keep us entertained and talked about.

The chiefs are just like, yeah, my home's a lot of. is great, and Reed is pretty cool. So it's different kind of sizzle. Yeah, the Chiefs had some pretty unseemly stuff themselves, but they were never with the main characters. We had like SpyGates, week one, 2007. We had

deflakeate right in the playoffs. We had the Hernandez thing, which was the craziest football story. And then people hate Belichick. The media hated Belichick. Everyone hated Belichick. I don't think people hate Andy Reid like that. Nobody hates Andy Reid. Nobody hates Andy Reid. Plus, we're only like halfway through the Patriots.

It's run now with the Chiefs, essentially, right? True. I'm up now. Go on. And I did not have Kansas City as my one seed. Nor did I. I had the Bills of Buffalo as my one seed. Wow.

This is unbelievable. We should mention I'm doing four hours of content with the CUS where we're doing all of our over under picks and futures and everything on Thursday. I reserve the right to change my mind over the next four days. I get it. So do I. right now right now uh i'm leaning toward kind of going all in on the bill's story and all the pieces and josh and the whole thing so my movie is going to be cliffhanger

slice alone 1993 the runs kind of the runs kind of over for him yeah he has this amazing 80s Arnold has come in and cleaned his clock and we've talked about this summary watchables multiple times. Arnold comes in and he's just like, here's total recall. Here's kindergarten cop. Here's Terminator 2. He's just like he's pummeling him a lot like Rocky in the first couple rounds of Rocky 4.

Stallone's just getting the shit kicked out of him. And people kind of give up on Stallone a little bit. And then Cliffhanger happens and he gets us to come to the theater right before, it's like right around Memorial Day, May 1993. And he's fucking

back. He looks great. The movie looks awesome. He's just playing all the hits and we leave the movie and we're like Stallone's back. I think that I'm going to feel that way about Buffalo at the end. All the stuff, all the tough losses and the close and this and that. And I just feel like, I feel like this is going to be their cliffhanger season. Plus, literally it's a cliffhanger cop, right? Yes. That's my case. I think there's also a lot of things that just piss people off about the bills. They leave you frustrated a lot. And as we know, Michael Rooker spends this entire movie just, kind of pissed off for really weird reasons

that don't make sense. Like at the beginning scene, he's mad, even though he brought the girlfriend up there and she died, but he blames. There's a lot of blame that goes around with Buffalo when they don't pan out or they can't beat the chiefs again. So I think there's a symmetry there too. Misplaced, anger, blame, resentment. Yeah, so

cliffhanger starts house. Michael Rooker takes his girlfriend up on a mountain and they're hiking and it gets fucked up to be rescued and finally they're on a zip line and she barely knows how to hike and starts to lose it on the zipline. And Stallone tries to be the hero.

Like, she's going to fall, climbs on the zipline and save her, and she ends up falling to her death. And Rooker's pissed off about it. Hmm. I was like, what about you, buddy? Yeah. Who took her up there? Who took her up there? That's right.

So anyway, and he's mad at Stallone the whole movie. All right. This is like she had Bill's fans being mad at Dalton Kincaid at the end of the title game for dropping that pass. Like, was that really what it was about? It's a little bit misplaced. So, Bill, I think it's a great pick. and we're two teams in, I feel the same

what you do. I'm like, oh shit, I had a good one for Cliffhanger or I had a good one for Buffalo, so we'll have to get to him somehow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think we're off to a good start, and it's a relatively coherent gimmick, and I'm pleased with it, but now this is the part where it gets scary, because Joe House is up. Well, come on, house.

I don't think I can mess this up. This is the third team in the AFC. And it turns out that this is my favorite team in the AFC, and the team that I think is going to land the one seed and the team that I've already bet to win the Super Bowl. this year. And that's the Baltimore Ravens. Awesome. I think the Ravens are lined up

for an incredible season. Reminder to everybody, they started off last year, eight and five. And they had bad losses. Unnecessary losses. That's exactly right. They had likely lost. Yeah, there's a couple bad ones. And then they reeled off four straight wins and came into the playoffs, you know,

in as good a position as anybody. And once again, snatched the feet from the jaws of victory. And it wasn't Lamar Jackson. Reminder to everybody in that game against Buffalo, there was a couple key turnovers and Mark Andrews was the goat.

And I don't mean greatest of all time. This Baltimore team, what they did in the off season, once again, they reload on the defensive side. I think that they found a defensive identity last year in that run at the end of the season. I just think that they are ready

to go on a tear. And so I'm in between two movies. Let's hear him. I, on the one hand, I love the idea of Terminator because Lamar Jackson last year had an MVP season. I don't see anything in terms of this offense that will

take me off of Lamar Jackson in that direction. Then the other one if we're going to go in that direction is First Blood 2. Rambo. Those were the two where I was... First Blood 2. Yeah. What would be the case for First Blood 2 with the Ravens? I'm trying to just like...

Well, you didn't give me first... Oh, you did give me First Blood. Sure. You could do First Blood if you want. Oh, yeah, I meant first blood then. You put both movies in. Okay, I see. I remember that first blood. So you don't want to put Action Jackson here. Oh, well, that's the layout. Guys, mind if I butt in, Bill? I got Action Jackson written

down for the Ravens. That's fucking awesome. God damn it. I love it. It has to be. Done, done, okay. If the Somayez can help you here. I agree. I love it. Thank you. We have a vintage bottle of Action Jackson. He's literally the Action Jackson. Are you interested in a movie? house where at one point, Carl Weathers

throws a guy out of a window so hard that he goes through the window and into the window of the building next to him. It's never been done before. That's Lamar Jackson. Jackson, Jackson, you guys. Thank you. Also, I don't want to say

this was the movie I fell in love with Sharon Stone in because it had already happened five years earlier. But she's thrown 119 miles an hour in this movie. Also, have we We talked about this, Kyle. The fact that they weren't three or four of these is enraging.

I don't know why. Well, that brings you to the point about the Ravens, Bill. Carl Weathers never really became the man. Like, he never became, he was always the guy in Predator, or he was always Apollo, or he was always Chubbs. He never got over the, is that Lamar? Does he never win the Super Bowl? No, beloved, beloved, respected, and yet, he, love him.

I mean, honestly, some MVP's, there's a real Rocky 3 MVP case. for Carl Weathers that I could have thrown in but yeah I just felt like I loved Action Jackson I don't think we've done it yet on the rewatchables

that's one of the ones we're saving and I don't know why there wasn't four of them I mean we actually know why there wasn't four of them because Hollywood was super racist back then

and all they want to do was get the white dudes so it's really only Snipes has a couple movies and the one Carl Weathers and that's it well on the topic of being exclusionary

I love that house gave two totally viable suggestions of Bill and I are like, nah, fuck that. Action Jackson. You're out. We're like the dick waiters. It was the right answer, though. I love the dick waiters. I love dicks in all of those walks of life, like a dick caddy. I always love the guys that are ready, you know, the asshole at the counter, the soup Nazi. That appeals to me. I, at having worked in the service industry for a couple years there, I always thought people respected when you gave them the truth. When they give you a choice and they're like, I was thinking about either getting the chicken

or the cheeseburger, what would you get? And I'd be like, I'd get neither. Our skirt steak is phenomenal. Yeah, don't sugarcoat it. Just tell the truth. Yeah, I was recently in Vegas, and I ordered it tequila. And I'm not, it's the, it's the George Clooney's tequila. The bartender looked at me, goes, would you mind if I gave you something else that's

way better and cheaper? And I was like, awesome, man. Yeah, do it. And he gave it to me. And I had so much respect for him. That just happened with Action Jackson, the Baltimore Ravens. There we go. All right. So off the board, interesting, interesting wrinkle.

I got to say, the gimmicks working great. We all had different one seeds. I would not have guessed. So Kyle had Kansas City. Yep. I had Buffalo and House had Baltimore. And it was going to be in some order of those three. This is where I was really excited to see where the draft was going to go.

The four spot. Because, well, I'll tell you later. Who do you have for the four spot? All right. So this is my first shock and all. in the fourth spot gentlemen i have the la chargers oh wow oh my let me scroll down i they're not in my first spot hold on all right there they are got you okay and my movie comp for the la chargers is total recall you have in both cases a wild man director you got harbaugh

you got bear hoven you got harbhoven okay you got a great lead in herbert but like in charge it And for the Chargers' house, like, weird shit always happens. Yeah, that's true. You have your quarterback who throws, like, no picks all year, and then he throws, like, 12 in one game and one playoff game. With Verhoeven, it's like, we're going through a science fiction movie. This is fine. Everyone looks normal.

And there's a three-breasted woman out of nowhere. For no reason. God, Verhoven's fucking crazy. For no reason. Lastly, there's always the sense of the, of with the Chargers, like, the past is repeating itself and haunting us, and I'm having recall of I'm living a different life. And it's like, it just seems to gel up. Chargers, total recall.

So it's funny. I had total recall for the chiefs. Oh, okay. No, but this is better. You made a way better case because mine was like, Mahomes, you're pretty ordinary last year. You were just a construction worker working nine to five and coming home and you threw for 3,900 yards.

Yes. You know, you guys, you didn't have a top five offense. And then in the playoffs, you weren't that great. And the Super Bowl, you got your ass kicked. Yep. You realize you're a guy that everyone, thinks is the key to Mars. That's in there.

Is that coming back? But I think this is way better. I think the Chargers, like, I have them in the divisional round losing. So that would mean they're in the playoffs for how long? Two weeks. Two weeks. It's all there.

How else do you think? It's a total re-contacted. I love it. I think it's tremendous. So we've already done this movie in the rewatchables. Although I don't think you were on it. No, I know Van was on it and probably CR. I don't remember, though.

I just watched it from start to finish a week and a half ago. Wow. And I couldn't believe how good it was. Even though we'd already dissected it, exacted every amount of content we could have gotten start to finish. I was just like,

God damn, they really knew how to make movies back then. There's not a wasted split second in that movie. It just goes and it's got, and there's just these different premises and different locations. And every time, think they've run out of characters. There's another one. The three-breasted ladies there.

We've shootouts. All of a sudden, we're in this weird nightclub. It's just a tour to force. And the ending's unbelievable. I know. And I still don't know if he dreamed it or not. What was your take? Did he dream it? Yeah. I mean, it's like inception with the top spinning. I like to think he dreamed it because it was just so cool and everything was so fun and he wins in the end. I like to think he dreamed it. So the reason you would think he dreamed it is they ask him to find a girl, and he picks the girl when they're trying to do is choose your adventure. Sleazy.

It's the exact girl that's the girl in the movie. So it's like, okay. But in the other hand, I don't know, maybe he didn't dream it. Maybe he really did save Mars. Who knows? What's really fun about Total Recall for a beginner is it leads the league in Arnold Schwarzenegger yelling and grunting like that he does it more in total recall than

any other Arnold movie. So if you like that, that's your movie. So ironically, my wife was in the background, like getting ready and walking in it out and stuff. And at one point she says to me, is this just an entire movie of people grunting and screaming? And I was like, yeah, you nailed that. That should have been in the

Ebert review. That's being a Chargers fan. Well, let's talk about the Chargers really quick. I'm down on them. And I have four days to talk myself out of it. I thought the Slater injury was a terrible omen trying to figure out. And I know, like, out of all the teams in the league, to be able to at least move Joe Walt over

is probably a better solution than anyone else would have. But I just, when you lose a guy like that before the season starts, when is that not a terrible omen? Yeah, and I didn't love what they did with the receiver room. I mean, at some point, these Herbert seasons, you have to, like, capitalize on it and use it to push you. They have guys that are all excited about. about, but it feels like preseason.

I know poor Kyle's doing three hours of content a day trying to, like, talk about fourth and fifth receivers on. No, but my deal is like, I've learned over the years, especially with playoff picks, just go with coaches. Yeah, like cover the roster. Pick Mike Tom and to make the playoffs. Pick Sean McVeigh. And I know Harbaugh's new here, but I don't care.

I think he's a top five coach in the league. He's crazy, like in the best way, but like I know they got an offensive tackle injured. It sucks. It happens. Other teams will too. I just trust Harbaugh. I do. Always. The case against them is last year's schedule was so favorable for them.

But then the games where they had to play good teams, they just didn't score. Yeah. I mean, you're talking like 10, 12, 14 point range for five. Then in the in the playoff game, they completely fell apart. I had a different AFC West team that I'm about to take. I really admire that pick, by the way. It's a team that I had in the three spot because I think they're going to, going to win the AFC West, but I don't think

it's the Chargers. I have the Denver Broncos right here. Okay. Talk about it. Interesting. I just like every... Hey, I've talked about them five different times in the pod. It just feels like they have a ton of talent. They know who they are. You're a great coach theory.

The Denver versus KC thing has been kind of quietly really good here since the 1990s. The KC piece of it where, you know, they're still trying to figure out some of the stuff with their offensive line, especially in the middle.

The Rishi Rice thing, just kind of hanging over the season like an anvil. When does that suspension kick in? It doesn't seem like they're totally psyched with their running game. I just have just as many questions about Casey in Denver. I'm just like, fuck it. I really like this Denver team. I'm going to ride with them.

So my movie is Predator. Okay. Let's go. Somebody's got to take it. Because for a variety of reasons, but this is more like less of a match of, the, what the movie's about, and more like just the name. Okay.

I think Denver is the predator of the AFC. Nobody sees them coming. Not really sure what's happening in the jungle. There's just some weird shit happening. Can you guys go down there? Right. And it's like, oh, no, you're not hunting them. They're actually hunting you.

With you. And right now, I feel like Denver, nobody realizes they're the alien in the jungle yet. And that's my case. That's like Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes are like, you're scared, Andy. bullshit you ain't afraid of no man there's something out there hunting us and it ain't no man and Casey it's like how's Casey going to lose this? They have

Jesse the body and Carl Weathers Arnold like this is going to be great they've got this I also you guys talked about this on the ringer Gamelick Show house and then Sheel did his three tiers of MVP picks on the ringer NFL show did not mention

Bo Nix. I don't think Bo Nix is going to win the MVP just I'm just going to say that. Okay, nor do I. But there is, it usually, Sheel made this case out. It's usually a 13 or 14 win team produces the MVP. So if you're all in on Denver, as House would say, maybe sprinkle just a tiny smattering. So you have a ticket on the 60 to one bow necks. Yeah. Why not? Like, what if he throws, what if he's 3,500 yards, you know, runs for 800 yards and 10 TVs, they go 15 and 2? I am not saying this will happen,

but for the odds, I just thought it was interesting. Yeah, I don't think that's a bad way to speculate to have that, you know, in the portfolio, a little taste.

Because Purdy's the other one like that where it's like, if you really like a San Francisco come back, odds are Purdy's going to be awesome and maybe just go long shot on him.

All right. Well, I think what else is interesting is one of these second year quarterbacks is not going to play well this year. It's just how the odds are. It's like they're not all going to work out.

They're not all going to be great. So Jaden, Nicks, May, and then, like, Pennix and McCarthy are in their other class and Caleb as well. Like, I think one of those four, including Caleb, is going to be like, ooh, what happened in that second year? You have to just, the law of averages of quarterbacks, is it going to be May or Caleb? Like, I, Knicks looked great, fine.

He was in the playoffs. He represented himself, but I don't know. I just don't think he's John Elway yet. Here's the problem with the bears from what I say with Caleb. They just, how much can you blow Tyson Badgant? They like Benjian a lot. The coach loves him. They gave him an extension.

He's sobbing in the press conference. It's like, what do you guys do it? Let's save it. Save the Bears for the Bears. I've never seen. We're not even on the Bears. The house is going to be on my podcast on Thursdays this year. And as we're leading up to it, if I was just like raving about the person who's like,

if anything happens to house, I'm going to have this guy host instead of house. And all I did all August was rave about the other person. If you get that person a $10 million contract, I'm going to be upset. I just want to be on the record. I'll be upset. Tyson, Bayesian or Badgent? Baygent, like agent.

Yeah, you said it right. So, Bejan. Okay, I could say it right. All right. So Denver off the board, and that means House is now up with the six picks. So we only have two playoff spots left here. Yeah. And in that context, this is why Houston is the right answer to me.

They are the class of their division. The case for Houston is just, it's a bad division, and they have a great defense. There could be, should be a bounce back for C.J. Stroud. They got rid of three of their offensive linemen. They brought in four guys. So you swapped out. There's some weird receiver stuff, too. They're relying on some rookies, tankedels, not back yet.

The thing that hurts the enthusiasm for Houston is the Joe Mixen injury. And it does seem like that is going to be persistent because they're basically having an open mic night for the running back position. That is the problem. Is it going to be Nick Chub? Is it going to be this run? guy we drafted? And yet, it may not matter in that division. And C.J. Stroud and that defense might be enough.

So I'm not sure what to do. I think this is the right spot for him, for them, first of all, like the sixth spot, even though they'll be the four seat because they're going to win it. But it's the defense. Like they're at least, we know they're going to be good defensively, and we know their secondary is awesome. So you'd be like, like even in the playoffs, pretty respectable defense performance by them, right, Albert?

Yeah. Where you're putting them now is just, it's kind of like where they've been. Yeah. Yeah. They're a very good team, but like, you know, not that upper echelon. So I'd be curious to know the movie pairing because I have something in one. I have an idea as well. I'm sure. I was going to ask you guys about Cobra because this idea of a secret society, the killers. I don't know if we want to shoot our Cobra wide here. Okay. By the way, Cobra is the 85 bears and the 73 Steelers. So no, that's not. We can't do Cobra with the 25. That's fine. That's why I like you.

You're curious about it. You gave us a price range in the $60 to $80 range. And then you just asked about a $750 bottle. Can I have the stentous stuff Bordeaux? Yeah. I was, so what were you thinking? Because I had a movie I was thinking for them. All right.

This would be wild. This is an interesting one. For the Texans, I have Passenger 57. Just for the simple reasons of, a lot to like. Really strong, cool lead. You got some good supporting actor. the young Liz Hurley, Tom Saismore, but it's just not up there.

It's not a Stallone or Schwarzenegger Van Dam quality thing yet. That's what I'm saying. I like that movie, but I'm not saying it's going to win the AFC or, like, be the coolest movie of the year. So my two were Commando and Pastor 57, because Commando.

Awesome. Come on. Well, that's good, because I had Commando as my second choice, but... Great. So I think it's Pastor 57. I feel better. The only thing I was thinking with the Commando

is it's like, really likable, good Arnold Schwarzenger movie, but it's, it's, it's either a round one or round two lost compared to the rest of his catalog. Absolutely. Okay. So that's a strong pick for the Texas. Passanger 57.

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who's not even a sleeper. But I actually think he's a sleeper to be a top 10. Okay. Dude. My biggest one is Trayvian-Henderson. Yeah. I just think he's going to be a top 20. points guy. We're going to find out a lot about that offensive

line this year. I think Sam Donald's a sleeper. You're down on him. Nobody leaves at Sam Donald. He's going to be sleeping on his back from that offensive line. Yes, I agree with you. He's a sleeper. He's literally a sleeper. J.S.N. on the Seahawks as well, like him. Summer room's gotten worse.

The season's almost here. Don't listen to House. Listen to me. Draft now at Yahoo! Fantasy.com slash Simmons. All right, so we have six AFC teams we've done. K.C. Buffalo, Baltimore, the Chargers, Denver and Houston. One of the questions with the AFC, Kyle, which I'm sure you've done multiple segments on.

Sure. It's your bleary-eyed in the mornings trying to figure this out, is who the fuck is the seventh AFC team? I know. Who is it? I mean, you can even say who's the sixth AFC team. You at least made a compelling case for the Chargers. But when you get to the seven-seed,

it's an all-bets-or-off situation. So who'd you have? I have an angel and a devil on my shoulders because I have some teams but my movies for them have already been taken but it's fine because there's a cluster fuck trying to get the seven spot so I'm just going to go with it again

you guys mentioned this this division already I have the Raiders I have the Pete Carroll Raiders the Pete Carroll Tom Brady Raiders I like them I like how they're built I like their quarterback I like their running game I like their defense and my movie comp is kickboxer

I like anything with an old mentor who teaches like a young talent how to do things. And that's Pete Carroll. I also like that the Raiders given Ashton Jensi 350 carries in his rookie years, like Van Dan kicking the tree until he breaks his leg. Just keep kicking it. Kick it again until it's bleeding. And Max Crosby is Noxu Kow, the White Warrior. So I have the Raiders as kickboxer and as our shocking seven seed as the third team from the

AFC West for me. It's in the vicinity of where I had them as well. I like it. But you left out the key point why this is such a great pick with the Raiders, the unintentional comedy in Kickboxer matching the unintentional comedy of the Las Vegas Raiders. Brady just randomly coming in with his cool Raiders gear, Mark Davis's hair, just the fact that they're in Vegas. Like there's a cheesiness to the Las Vegas Raiders that matches.

There's a famous scene in Kickboxer. when when bandam dances oh yeah um yeah and it's like his whole he's wearing a black tank top yeah and it'll occasionally become a meme and it's like what what fits better than that with the las vegas raiders it's great we i just want to observe out loud we have all four of the a fc west in the top seven teams here unlikely we just said possible i'm just i'm just saying it out loud that's that's what we did but i think the coaches i understand there's two divisions that are above all the divisions. AFC West and the NFC North.

And I think you can make a case for playoff spots for all eight of those teams. We just did. If you wanted. We just did with the West. And people have a different one of who bounces out. Most people will probably have it like we have it here. But I, listen, talk about this every year. If you have a terrible QB and a terrible coach and you go to a B minus for those

categories or C plus, it's. It's still four to five wins. Just being competent makes you go from five and 12 to nine and eight. So I'm fine with that. You have an adult in the room. Listen, Gino Smith, I know he doesn't blow anybody's hair back.

The Seahawks won 10 games last year. 10. With the defense. They have all that. And they have Carroll now and they have adult in the room. I just, I like it. And I don't know about this.

He has never lost less than seven, right? Isn't that the stat? You take your hands and you put them in broken glass for the fight against Tong Poe at the end. That's them against. the chiefs, an amazing sequence. I had the Patriots. Shocker.

I'm stunned. Look. Come on. What do you mean? Come on. Come on. They're making the jump. Make the case.

They check all the boxes that we see every year that Washington did last year and they have the balls to pick them. But brand new coach replacing a horrific coach and a horrific coaching staff. Spent a lot of money in for agency. They had a really good draft with guys that seemed like they're going to play. they have a quarterback that I think has a chance to be special. I just thought what he did in 10 games last year with the worst coaching personnel,

offensive line situation possible. And the team really likes them. And they're definitely going to be better. 9 and 8 might be a 7 seed. And when you look at their schedule and you start going through it, it's like a miracle of the schedule. And you know what else was a miracle getting trivia on Henderson

because the Browns took his teammate, two spots before? So my movie here, we circled it with Houston, but I think this is Commando, where it is, it's just like, it's just a little tester for what's to come or what I hope as a Patriots fan is going to come. It's like, oh, can Arnold carry his own movie

where he's not just walking in and going, I'll be back? Oh, he can. He can be like a likable star of a thing. Oh, could this, could bigger things happen down the road? They could. Could there be a good infrastructure around Arnold in a movie that's repeatable? Oh, yes?

Yeah, sure. So Commando is my pick. I know you love Commando. I love Commando. My wonder, what I'm wondering about is this Stefan Diggs piece of this. Is he Bill? Is he a Raydon Chong? Is he Bill Duke?

Is he Vernon Wells? I think he's, where do you come out of house? I think it's, it's, right on. I think it's like we just kind of needed somebody. that, where you recognize their name? Could we have spent more money on the actress? We probably could have. She's serviceable.

Can she get 75 catches and 900 yards? She can. And that's it. I think Diggs is going to have 90 catches this year. I know what people are down on them and they think he's a jackass or something. His stock is low. He's such a professional on the field. He's so, so good at wide receiver.

And he took Josh Allen from adolescence to adulthood. I think he's going to do it again. I love Diggs this year. My only issue, the ceiling for me, that makes it unattainable is just that offensive line isn't good enough to give Drake May the time that he's going to need to get 90 balls into the It's a way better offensive line this year and it's still not that good.

Right. They were an F-minus minus last year as an offensive line. It was the worst offensive line they've ever had since I've been a Patriot fan. And now they're going to be... A D? No, I think they're going to be like a C. Okay. Maybe a C-plus.

I'm not going to sit here and argue with you about it because last year, Washington was forecasted to have one of the four worst offensive lines, the entire NFL. If you look at every forecast, and then they came in, and scheme-wise, Cliff Kingsbury and with the weapons that they had, they ended up being a very serviceable offensive line. I mean, they had, when you look at the coaching staff they had last year, it's people that aren't in football. I get it. I know. It's a great point.

What Mayo is doing. I don't know where Alex Van Pelt is. You're going down the land. I don't know if these guys are in pro college high school. who knows? You're up again with the ninth pick, Kyle. The ninth pick. All right, well, I had, this is where I had the Bengals.

I had Cincinnati here just on the outside. And listen, this is where I run into the, I have Predator. I know Bill, you already claimed Predator, but it's just like so many, so many just huge, giant, expensive, violent weapons with no ability to defend themselves. They just sit there like a sitting fucking duck

and the predator goes in and steals Jesse the body's body. There's nothing they can do about it. And it's pretty cool. And they got mini guns and Jamar Chase's old painless, but like they really have no way of protecting themselves

against this superior weaponry. That's what I look out. You just violated the draft. I know. So I got to go with another movie. I have an idea for this. If you want, if you, I don't know if the Samaez

can help each other. Yeah. Give me something. I had Tango and Cash written down for them, and here's why. It's not a good movie. It's super entertaining. I don't know why it's so entertaining, but it is. You just get to hang out with Stallone and Kurt Russell.

Yes. They have this weird kind of back-and-forth stuff. Stallone's trying to be hilarious. He's like this hilarious wisecrackings, really into the stocks. and it's just a fun hang and you never think it's going to win the Oscar be that good

and I think that's the Bengals I just think they're a fun hang they're never going to really do anything their defense is going to be bad Zach Taylor and Burrow are cool too that does like there's a cool factor with Swayze

and I mean you want anybody from this team on your fantasy team you enjoy it I'll buy it on 4K Blu-ray Predators too good of a movie to go to go to the 2025 Bengals

this is good yeah we're in agreement that's where my head highly watchable. I think that's a word for both of those things. Tango and Capp plus like Burrow and Chase literally Tango and Cash. Yeah. All right. My next

one, this is going to see, I'm taking movies right off Kyle's board. I don't mean to. That's all right. Because it's not a zero-sum game. I have Pittsburgh right here. Okay. I don't think they're a playoff team. I don't know if Aaron Rogers even gets through the season. I think it's

completely unrealistic that he's going to be good this year. I don't see the case. I watch and played football last year. I don't know why he'd be better a year later. I don't think he wants to get hit anymore. The way that team cratered

last year, the MEC-Caf thing, they kind of went sideways with the skill positions. Their offensive line will be a little bit better. Schedule's pretty hard. And I just grabbed out for justice here

because I think it's, I think it's a season where there's just a moment where Tomlin's just wandering around goes, has anyone seen Richie? Is anyone seen Richie? But he really means a quarterback

because this is year eight for him not having a quarterback year nine and it just feels like has anyone seen Richie season for the Steelers? They'll probably go eight and nine, nine and eight, whatever, but I don't think they're a playoff team. I'm going to keep coming back to nine and eight until somebody remembers seeing the divisional round.

It's good. That was excellent. The case for Aaron Rogers being better this year is that he is a full year now rehab away from the Achilles. I mean, you know, if you want to advance the argument

that he was back too early from the Achilles, definitely you would make that argument with Kirk Cousins. Was he back a year too early from not wanting to get hit anymore? Because he didn't want to get hit last year. There was a lot of disarray. Now, some of it, he certainly had a hand and I'm not absolving him of the disarray

in that jet situation. But this is a different situation. I'm really, really, really intrigued by Arthur Smith and Aaron Rogers. Really, what, KB, what are you hearing? Like, how is that relationship going? I went to Steelers camp. I sat with Rogers. I watched. And God damn, the ball flies out of his hand. We know that. Like, it's a very impressive. And the Arthur Smith thing is very strange from the get-go, because Arthur Smith's like, run the shit out of the ball. Just run left, run right, do the Falcons thing, what I did with those two running backs. You wouldn't think.

And the weird part about it is Rogers had no say in picking him. Rogers brought Nate Hackett to the Jets. Right. There's no Alan Mazard. Randall Cobb is not on the studio. It's not like his whole crew where he's Vinnie Chase and he brought Turtle and E. There's none of that. He just is there because Tomlin is the coach.

And Tomlin always is in the playoffs. All right. You monitor this training camp stuff closely and you've gone to training camps. Yeah. Why do we believe any story about anything that these guys say in the training camp? Like, who's going to be like, yeah, we haven't really liked him. He's been kind of a dick. No, but hopefully for the season, it'll be fine.

Those stories do leak out. Like, that's why everybody's got their eye on the dolphins. We'll get to them eventually, right? Yes. Those stories are leaking out of Miami. Like, you know. That's a good point. It's like you're skeptical of ex-player is in the best shape of his life

and has recommitted himself to fitness and lost this much time. It all matters in this time of year. It's what we do in August. Well, the thing that, and I've talked about this, the one thing I do look for is the raving quotes from the teammates and coaches about like a new quarterback or rookie. And this is where like the Cam Ward thing becomes so interesting because the way they talk about Cam Ward, it's very similar to Daniels last year.

You can see like from the moment Daniel showed up in Washington and House and I were texting during the summer. I was like, House, did you get a quarterback? It seems like you got a quarterback. Everyone's like blowing this. Blowing this. And I wouldn't let myself believe. it. I was like, oh, this is the thing.

Yeah, House had his guard up. He didn't want to be hurt. Yeah, I didn't want to be hurt. When did you start believing how it was like, when was the moment? That pass that he threw to Terry McLaren on Monday night football against Cincinnati and took the hit. Yep, that I got chills. I'm almost getting chills right now thinking about it again. It's just so unexpected to see a guy with that level of poise. And it was like, there was a bucket to drop it into that was like barely the size of the football. God damn, that was a badass play. That made me believe. Well, how sadly you're up

and the following teams are left. Indianapolis, Jacksonville, the Jets, Miami, Tennessee, and Cleveland. And you have to go. You have to take one of those teams. Who are you taking? Miami. And the reason that I'm taking Miami is because

it's one of two outcomes for them. And for sure, we're everybody's got their antennae up. Everybody's paying to, like when the odds board opens for first coach to be fired. It's going to be Mike McDaniel's name at the very top. And all we've been talking

about is that hot seat for him, the hot seat for Tyreek. But the talent is still there and on both sides of the ball. If Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb can play 12 games this coming season on defense. Yeah, they have certain skill sets.

Yeah. They can rush the passer. They have speed. Then there's other parts of the team where it's like, yeah, we just don't have an offensive line. Yeah, we're just not going to have a secondary this year. Well, the thing with McDaniel, his apologists say his record with Tua as a starting quarterback is excellent. He wins. Yeah. That's a huge if. But he is, when he has a starting quarterback, he wins. So what's a movie that's like one extreme or the other?

I had, I had an idea for this, but Kyle, you go because I've kind of strong-armed you in a couple of days. I don't think we burn this. This is where I'm ready, I have a chip that is very special to me. This is where I'm ready to burn my Cobra chip. I think Marion Cabretti is Mike McDaniel. It's just eccentric for eccentric sake. Like doesn't even really make sense. You know what I mean? It's just like, why are you being that strange?

You can just be straight with us sometimes. And it's like I can see McDaniel with the aviators and a match in his mouth and talking about his run game. You're like, guys, defense is a disease and I'm the cure. Like that fits to me. That seems like him. He would definitely eat pizza by cutting it with scissors. Yeah, just scissors, frozen pizza.

I think Tyreek is like this really cool, like, belated weapon with spikes. He's the night stalker. I think Cobra is down in South Beach. I do. House and I went to breakfast. I was walking him through the movies on the list because he didn't remember some of them.

Fun. That's a fun breakfast. It's great breakfast. Yeah, if somebody had overheard it, they would have thought we were just two lunatics. But we get to Cobra. I'm like, Cobra, Stallone just lost his mind.

He just loses his mind. And at one point he eats pizza by cutting with scissors. He kills 230 people and mumbles all his lines and has a toothpick in his mouth. And it's an incoherent movie that we both love. There's no guardrails. Just do anything, Sly. Nothing. It's

no one stepping in a town that would never happen. And that's why it's fun to watch. That's the dolphins, too. I had over the top in that spot for many of the same reasons you just laid out. Completely ridiculous. Incomprehensible. Not sure why it happened. Multiple major, major holes in the movie,

and yet it's still weirdly enjoyable. Okay, that means I am now up. So, I can't believe I'm doing that. I hate the AFC South. I really do. It's tough, isn't it? I've changed my mind on the Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Tennessee thing, and I thought I'd kind of landed on Indianapolis for a split second,

and then the Danny Dimes thing. I just can't do Jacksonville. My body keeps rejecting it, like a kidney. It's understandable. And I keep kind of veering toward Tennessee for the second place spot, maybe. Sure. We already have bets on them finishing fourth place. So it's like a zag, just on things we bet on.

And it really comes down to, like, they have a good offensive line. Yep, they do. They might have a quarterback who's special right away, which we have seen year after year after year now where this one quarterback will come in and just be good right away. They have some things they can do. like maybe they'll have a little bit of a pass rush. Yeah. Maybe they'll have an easy schedule.

So you can kind of start talking yourself into pieces. But it's really the cam word piece. I want to ask Kyle this. And I want to ask it in a way that won't get him in trouble with anybody. Okay, go on, go on. I didn't see any team last year that was worse coached than the Tennessee Titans. Well, so that was the hesitation. The special teams, like some.

But how much of that was Will Levis, though? that they will levis didn't play special teams their special teams was an abomination yeah no i know that they they brought in you know an adult finally on that that side of it but i'm just going to put it politely i have mattie callahan questions i have calahan questions how about sure and and until those get answered why is this making kyle uncomfortable they talk about shit like this every day a good morning football i don't have to tell the league line that hard it's how it's cool house i'm the only one who's critical. It's fine. I don't care. I don't think they're going to fire me because I say

the Titans coach has questions about it. They're like, hey, do you hear what Kyle agreed with this Tennessee coach? I thought they were point shaving last year. That's how bad it was. Yeah. I have a... I call them the Tennessee point shavers. I never told you my movie for them. Oh yeah. What do you got?

Kindergarten cop. Because kindergarten cop, first of all, gives the feeling of youth, which is what they have with Cam Ward. Right? Sure. Oh, he's too young.

They can't do anything. He just got there. The team's a mess. Kindergarn cops a movie that when you saw the trailer, you just assumed it was going to be terrible. Yeah. And I'm old enough, unfortunately, to remember seeing the trailer. We're like, oh, man, Arnold's really lost it. What the, what the fuck is he making this movie?

Like, this is just, this is just going to be a bomb. I can't believe. And then it turned out to be really good. I know. It's one of these annoying things that our heroes all did is they're like, I can't do action movies forever. I got to show my diversity. God damn,

just make the fucking action movies. It's like when you go to a concert of a band you loved in the 80s, and they're like, hey, this is one of our new ones. Oh, shit, I'm going for a beer. It's like that. Don't do that, but they do.

And it worked in this case. So I got them there. Twins worked, and a lot of them worked for him. House, you have... Are you next? Yeah. I lost track, Bill. I don't know.

Give it to Kyle. Yeah, Kyle, you go. Yeah, I think Kyle's... Kyle hasn't gone. All right. I like that we, I feel like like a janitor just mopping up

the hallways of the AFC South. Yeah. We have to do it. The real point is it doesn't really matter who goes at this point. But you go. Who do you have? All right.

I'm going to go to Duval County. You got the Jags. I got the Jags. I got the Jags. I'll take this one for us, Bill. And this one is on a T for what the movie is. This is definitely double impact. This is like,

listen, back in the day, people were like, we need more van damage. We need two Van Damage. van dams in one movie and house i'll give you one wild guess who gets a screenwriting credit for this movie take a guess i can't i can't imagine john claude van dam screenwriting fucking credit um on the screen my hot take bill about about double impact is that uh sinners is just a rip off of double impact and michael b studied tape of van dam and that smoke and stack were just

alex and chad totally ripped off that band damn did it first that's great that's great that's great But obviously the connection is Travis Hunter. They need a double impact. He needs to do two characters. They draft them to be the defensive guy, the wide receiver guy, and we'll see if it works. Double impact doesn't totally work. Trevor Lawrence in this case would be Bolo Young.

He was like great physical gifts but never really wins. So that's where I'm at. It's right there for you, double impact Travis Hunter. I really like it. I don't have a lot of notes other than to mention that not only did Van Dam co-write the movie. I wonder if he bought first draft. Do you think he loaded it into his computer?

Do you think Ben Dam had a computer? No. But he plays twins and he plays the twins differently. But, you know, even in sinners, the twins, they're a little different, but, you know, they sound. Van Dam's like, no, one guy is going to be this guy and the other guy. And it's a really bad movie that I can't believe we haven't done on the rewatch. There's a part where a woman starts to put her hand down Van Dam's pants. And she goes, am I going to get a surprise?

And he goes, yeah, big. surprise. And you're like, Jesus, what are we doing here? Just kick somebody. He wrote that. He wrote that, though. Big surprise. The big penis. Yes. That's him. He liked that one. That's great. All right. Three teams left. You can have Indianapolis. The Jets are Cleveland here.

I'm taking the Jets. And we're squarely in the in the Seagal Van Dam division, I think, movie-wise, right? It's got to be one of those. So if I can suggest a movie here, as action. So, yeah, I mean, you could do the running man, the double entendre because Aaron Glenn is just like, we're just running. Yeah. We're just going to run the ball a lot, and then we're going to keep running it.

Is there a scenario where the Jets can win eight or nine games this season? I mean, yeah, how many Justin Fields conversations have you had on the show in five years? He's pulling his hair out. Yeah. And you know why? I've seen a lot of Justin Fields, a lot, a lot. And he is like the greatest person and the greatest employee. He doesn't say shit and he works really hard and he gets his ass kicked.

He almost never wins the game he starts. And then when he finally did win some games, Mike Tom and Benchon for Russell Wilson. It's a very odd legacy. So I love him. I'm rooting for him. But like it's also the longest playoff drought in like major professional sports. So is this the Justin Fields and year one of Aaron Glenn's going to break it? I don't think it's like.

I went back at my notes from last year for all the podcasts I hosted to just try to jog my memory because we always get amnesia after this season. And before they benched Fields, there was a game that they won, but I did a whole section, I wrote out a whole section to do in the pot about like, Fields doesn't have it. They actually have to go to Russell Wilson. He's not good enough because he just, you know, especially if you're down, what was that game? Was that maybe Dallas where they were down and he had to do a drive at the end? He's just not accurate enough.

So it might be, I think, I've said before, I think they're going to be the tease buster this year. There's going to be like two games this year that they win 16 to 9 and they have the lead the whole game and you had the other team as part of a three team 10 point T's and you can't believe like Cincinnati's losing to

the Jets in the fourth quarter. Let's go to Cincinnati where Justin Fields just ran. So you're just like I can't believe I bet on Cincinnati. What am I doing? I just, I'm not going to bet anything involving the Jets because their defense and Aaron Glenn together like they they're still talent on that defense. They threw up

talent. It was a disaster what happened with that with Sala leaving and the difference between what, you know, what that defense was capable of with Sala was still there. That was the only unit that had any kind of semblance of like competent football. And I mean, the schedule

is the problem. We're on a terrible pace. We got to keep moving. We can't spend this. Do we ran in a running man for that bill? Let's do, yeah, let's lock down the running man for that. Okay. Good. All right. You have the second and last one here, Kyle, and then I'll go last. You can have Indianapolis or Cleveland.

Tough podcast already for Danny Dimes. I'm going to go, I'm going to go Cleveland. And I'm going to go Jim Cotta. Jim got, you're going wildcard.

Wild card, Jim Cada. Cleveland is like, we have Miles Garrett and that's it. Jim Cata's like, we have a pommel horse and we will kick the shit out of you with it. I don't care what else is going on.

You give us a pommel horse and we will kick. That's all. It's, like one asset that they're bringing and all kinds of other shit going on with quarterbacks and ninjas and attacks. I got the Cleveland Browns' Jim Cata, Bill, and I hope I didn't steal your wild card. So does this mean you've watched Jim Cata? I've seen Jim Cata in like a seamstress, like in pieces. I've been poking you with it for the last couple years. Oh, let's go. Well,

for rewatchables. I'm just like, hey, can you check out Jim Cata? Like, he badgered me for for out for justice for two years and I finally did it. And guess what? I was, it made my year. I'm so happy that I dove in now for justice. He won't oblige with Jim Cata. You can't do a full hour on Jim Cata. How do you do it? Oh, we definitely can. It's a pommel horse for two or six.

It's in the running for the worst sports movie of all time. Okay. It's Kurt Thomas as, okay. Kurt Thomas coming off the 84 Olympics, star gymnast, and they make an action movie for him and he just has to do gymnastics action shit. It's amazing. I've seen it. I've seen it.

Every time it comes on, I watch it. It's stunning. Yeah. All right. I'm going to take a Indianapolis then, who somehow fell to the 16 seed in this. So, we're going to do true lies here.

Ah, all right. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'll do it. I just think a lot of lies left and right coming from this franchise and just things that the Richardson and all of it just seems, I don't think they had any intention to bringing him back. I think there's a lot of stuff behind this.

scenes with that they're saying that we're not seeing. They spent money on Dimes to come in. Dimes is not remotely close to the guy he was in 2020 when he wasn't even that good. And I just think they're out on Richardson and I don't even know. Like, I would have tried to trade him in August. Just like, you know what? We fucked this up. It was the fourth pick in the draft.

We took a swing. I have two questions about that. Yeah. Kyle, how invested was Shane Steichen in that draft pick? I think very. Yeah. Is that the story? Stake Stikin.

That was the guy. We're going to find the weapon of tomorrow. That wasn't Hercet. It was Stikin. I think it, I mean, when you draft a quarterback that high, the owner is very involved as well, especially that owner. Yeah. So I don't even know what Ballard. Who was it?

Was it Ballard Stike and Erse? Maybe that's why we are where we are. Okay. True Lise is a good movie in Indianapolis is going to be a bad team. And by the way, we have to stop talking about them because we're way behind on pace now. And we're going to go to the NFC. We're going to take a break. and we're going to rip through the NFC.

All right, we're coming back. We just did the AFC. We each had a different one seed for the AFC. I can't wait to see what happens in the NFC. Plus, we have a lot of good movies left, including I think we have under siege, above the law, over the top. Terminator is available, point break, Rainbow 2, Sudden Death, Toy Soldiers is still available. Under siege 2, Rocky 4, above the law, demolition man, a couple wild cards, bloodsport. So we have some good stuff here.

And Kyle, you're going to lead us off with, I don't think it will be a surprising one seed for the NFC, but who you got? I got the Lions. Wow. It is a surprise. I'm surprised. We're both surprised.

I have the Lions. I know. And I know, Al, the attention is on Philly. I'm going to go with the Lions. And I'm going to go with Under Siege for the Detroit Lions. Ryback is just like, I'm just a cook. And Campbell's like, I'm just a coach. But, you know, both of them want to get.

in there and kick ass. You got all these new weapons. There's Tommy Lee. There's Busey. Jemir Gibbs is a laniac, just hot as hell, fulfilling different kinds of fantasies. It's under siege.

The lions is exactly what they are. That's great. I have them lower in the seeds than I had under siege too for them. So I thought that's pretty funny. Wow. Fucking awesome. I love with that.

You got under siege one. That's the difference in how we feel about the lions. He's feeling an under siege season. I'm more in the under siege too. I was telling House about under siege. because I don't think you'd ever seen it. And as soon as I got to Erica Leniak jumping out of a birthday cake,

he was like, say no more, I'll watch it. I'm in. So, Lions, you're not worried about... Coordinators? Yeah, so that would be, like, in this case, it'd be like, it's die hard on a boat. We're not worried about it's too close to die hard. But all those movies are like, you know,

the odds are against Dan Campbell. That's just the way he likes it. This season is about, like, are you just some meathead who had really smart coordinators? and this is going to catch up with you? Or is Dan Campbell truly like Mike Ditka? Is he the real thing? We'll find out.

I think he is. So here's, I just want to make this as a PSA. You can't be all in on the Bears and Ben Johnson being a genius and how great he's going to be for the Bears, but then also be all in on the Lions being good this year. Okay. Like it's, to me, that's the seesaw and you got to pick a side on the seesaw. Yeah, I know which side. So if you don't think, you don't think the Ben Johnson loss is going to be a huge thing

for Detroit, and you can't also then pick the. bears to go 11 and 6 because Ben Johnson's our coach. All right. Let's see. I'm going to take Philly here. Sure. Okay. This was a pretty easy movie.

It's, I had Rambo, First Blood, too. First Blood, big movie, influential. The best acting is Stallone's career other than maybe, maybe the Mickey dying scene. It's so much to do. It's so much to do. So Rambo, there. making First Blood, too. There weren't a ton of sequels.

The sequel thing had really started in the late 70s, and they started to feel money grabby by around 84, 85. It's like, oh, they're bringing this back. Boy, was I glad they did. I know. And they took it. They blew it out. They threw some steroids literally and figuratively into it.

They made it absurd. It had iconic moments and scenes and was in some ways better than the first movie. I still like the first movie. More weapons, more muscles. There's a love story in it. There's helicopters shooting missiles. John Crease is in there. It's just like put it all in.

Yes, more, more, more. It was like the Bash Brothers of a movie. Just like big, beefy, forearms and muscles and hitting Jack's house. It was great. So Eagles, they won the Super Bowl last year. So how do you top that? Well, just fucking make it more cartooning. Run it back.

Run the push every time. Run it back, baby. Try to see if Devantis Smith can get 200 yards in a game. Just come up with the fake hurts injury. So Tander McKee, you can showcase them for a game because you're trying to trade them before week seven. I'm ready for all of it. And that's my pick. How's your up?

Third pick. Out of respect to the Washington franchise, I'm not going to select them here. Okay. But I am going to select the Green Bay Packers out of respect for the NFC. Wow. That's high. It is high. That's exactly right.

But I think that this is a 10 to 11 win team. and the winner of the NFC West, I have around 10 wins, not much more than that, and the winner of the NFC South is like a 10-win team. So I'm fine with, I think Green Bay, the combination of their head coach and their quarterback, if their quarterback is healthy all season long,

I like that combo better than any of the other divisions, mainly because the L.A. Rams with Matthew Stafford's back have taken, you know, a significant drop from me. I would have had the Rams, honestly, in this spot because of how much progress, their defense made last season. Their defense was incredible the last six games of the season. So the Rams would have been,

but I'm not touching an old quarterback with a bad back. So I'm putting Green Bay in here because of out of respect for LaFleur, out of respect for Jordan Love and their defense, they changed that defensive coordinator and very quietly, Jeff Hathley had a good season last season. I thought they're still thin the secondary Green Bay. But help me help me out here. A quality team, they gave the Eagles everything the Eagles wanted.

They were right there. So the profiles, basically, they're young. They're coming on. Could this be the year? They year away. What are we getting from Jordan Love? I had point break written down for them. Interesting.

It's like Keanu had been in our life for a few years. Could he lead a movie? Swayze is coming off Ghost and Roadhouse. It's like, could he be a bleach blonde, cool surfer? So the Swayze, Kianu is your LaFlemy. or Jordan Love? There were just questions when it's coming out,

but I also really wanted to see it and then it delivered. So House's case putting Green Bay hair. You're like, there's some young pieces here. What's crazy about Green Bay too is like House, like there's no buzz.

They're very quiet. Yeah, I love that. Because everyone's talking about the Bears and the Lions and what's J.J. McCarthy to look like. They're by far the most quiet team in the league.

That's probably good. I don't know if we saw a point brand Catherine Bigelow middle of summer hit like being that big of a hit. Point Break is one of my favorite movies of all time. I think it was way better and everybody thought. That would be Green Bay.

Okay. Good one. So we have a top three of Detroit, Philly, and Green Bay. Interesting. Two division champions, not even brought up yet. You have the fourth pick. Who do you have? All right, well, I'm going to need some help from the Salmelier

because my picks here at the top of the NFC, the movies are all gone. So we'll go Samaya to Samaye here. Yeah, I need help. I have the Buccaneers. I have them right there for a bunch of reasons. Not only is the NFC South pretty light. I like Baker.

I like Bowls. And nobody plays the Eagles harder than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Ask any Eagles fan who plays them the best, the Bucks. They knocked them out of the playoffs a couple of years ago. They play awesome. If they were to run into Philly in the playoffs, they could beat them. But I also had Bill, I had written down that Baker has Bodie energy. It's not tragic to die doing what you love, but point break is off the board.

So are you feeling anything? For like young, hot shot Baker, a lot of baggage there. It hasn't got it done yet. What do you think? So this was my favorite one of the 32 for the movie match. And one of the reasons I came up with this dumb idea that people are probably pouring gasoline in themselves. I'm having a great time.

I don't care if people like this or not. I am too. For me, it's obviously toy soldiers. Baker Mayfield, Sean Aston. Young, scrappy. Like, Sean Ashton can't be the lead of a movie. What are we doing? He's 5-7.

He's going to be John McLean in a boarding school, saving a boarding school from terrorists. This movie's ridiculous. How is it working? And same thing for Tampa. Like, this is ridiculous. Howard, they, Godwin's coming back from an ASEO. They've lost McMillan for a half year.

This Ohio State receiver, Miraculous, he falls to them at 21, who's going to be awesome. He's going to be awesome. Mike Evans is still good. Like, what are we doing? How are, worsts they're not going to have for four weeks? How are they scoring 38 points? in this game.

I just think it's going to be a lot. And then you have scrappy underdog tiny Baker-Mefield, a.k.a. Sean Ashton. I thought that Todd Bowles would be Lou Gossip, but Mike Evans is so old, I think it might be him. And I also think that Toy Story, or not Toy Story,

Toy Soldiers, the villain is really bad, right? We've talked about that. Like, that villain is not great. The NFC South, the villain is not very good. Like, there's not someone who's really intimidating there. So I love, you know, I love Toy Soldiers. Great call. Yeah, I don't know who Will Wheaton is in this.

Because when we, Kyle and I broke this down two years ago. And we slow-moed a couple Will Wheaton scenes. It just went like really, really intensely in on some of the stuff he was doing. I don't know who that character is in this Tampa. It's got to be Bucky Irving. He's looking to fight, but like maybe not really. I like, I like Bucky. He's up and coming.

He's going. I think Jason Light, the GM is Marcus Brody from the Indiana Jones. We could do the whole casting bill. Okay. The fact that this was what launched what we're doing. is perfect. Toy Soldiers in the box. It did. All right. So now we have Detroit,

Philly, Green Bay, Tampa. I am up with the five seed. And it's a team that I actually had a whiff higher than that. And I'm just confessing. This is full confession time because I think I'm locked in. House is not going to like this. It's fine.

It's the Seattle Seahawks who I think are going to win the NFC West. Okay, I love this. I have I needed a nobody believes in this team. They qualify. I couldn't find one in neither conference. How do they qualify for nobody? They won 10 games last season. They're plus 5.50

to win the NFC West. In a division that I think any of those four teams you could make a case for. That's fair. Why is Seattle plus 550 on Fandall? There's almost six to one odds they're going to win the division. They were good they had the division last year. They almost won it. People are

not excited about Sam Donald. Let's just say what it is. He won a lot games last year. But this is the Nobody believes this part. They don't believe in Sam Donald. He already went through this last year. They thought they got the receivers worse. They don't believe in Cooper Cup.

Everyone's just blindly in the Niners. And from a Zag standpoint, I think it's the best zag of the eight divisions where there's a case for it. I know. Their offensive line, Kubiak doing the zone blocking. Everybody's excited about that.

They nailed the great Zabel pick. They nailed the draft house. They did. They did a great job with the draft. I agree with that. And guess what else they have? They have a defense that. might be a top five defense.

It's a very good defense. If you're making your top five defense draft, they have to be one of the candidates. They have a home field advantage. And I don't think their division's going to be very good because of the Stafford piece. You mentioned earlier. So I have Seattle and my movie is Sudden Death.

Oh, awesome. Sudden death is a nobody believes in us movie. Okay. They pitch this and the people in the room were like, no way. Stop. It's like so, man, it's like die hard, but it's during a hockey game.

Yeah. It's a penguins game. Yes. Van Dam is basically going through a divorce. He's kind of a loser. He's like a security guard type guy. And he's going to have to foil this terrorist attack. And at some point he's going to play goal in the movie.

Yeah. And never in the room's like, I don't believe this. I don't we should make this. I don't want to commit. And they're like, just trust me. Just trust me. And guess what? We've already done the rewatchables.

It's a magical movie. And they say, well, what if we have a scene where he fights the mascot in a kitchen? Would that work? Yes. Everything. House, the best thing about this movie is, can you imagine if a team, if a movie maker went to the NFL?

And they're like, can we have a thing where the Steelers and Cowboys are playing and the whole stadiums rigged with bombs and it's going to explode? And they're like, no. The NHL's like, sure.

You're going to make a movie about hockey. Take our jerseys, whatever you want. Fine. If you want to blow up both teams, fine. Do it. Just cut the check. So, Seahawks, nobody believes in them. Nobody believes in sudden death.

I definitely don't believe in them. Well, there you go. It's a perfect pick. How's Europe? I have San Francisco 49ers here. And, you know, this is the right place for them, I think, where there is a big, a large market movement in favor of the 49ers, winning the West.

You know, they have the... They're penciled in. The win total. It's just the NFC West has done. Just put them in. They're the champs. It's just that they're the favorite. I mean, it's not.

You know, there's still like plus 1.50 odds. Everyone has them in the playoffs. Everyone's doing the three and three out. Well, the Niners will definitely be one of the team. They're just in. And meanwhile, they lost 10 guys who signed contracts for at least 10 million a year. Mm-hmm. On top of, like, McCaffrey, who knows? We don't know when Ayuk's coming back.

They're already having, like, major wide receiver stuff. I don't know. I just have questions. They just traded for Brian Robinson, Jr. from commanders. Yeah. Really good running back. Really good. I just had a fantasy draft, and that was fucking everybody up.

I think he's going to get carries. I do. He's definitely going to be a carry. He's a tough guy. This is one where you have to invest in, you know, the regression, which is to say they're not going to have the injury luck that they had last year. They're not going to have the worst defense in the second half of football games. They were an abomination in the fourth quarter of football games last year.

The defense was a bottom five defense in all of those metrics. You say that Robert Salah with these guys starting from scratch. Robert A kid Salah. I know. There we go. Shrakes is probably texting him right now. and they have the text me after he put the kids to beth i have some questions about the secondary do you know i once had an exchange with robert saw that i'll share with you where i was like dude

you're you're ripped like you are so huge what what are you on like would you take some sort of like creatine or he's like no i'm on i'm on ph w and i was like what's ph w i'm googling at ph w i go what the hell is that he goes pure hard work and i was like oh jesus christ you're pure hard work i love this guy's an amazing story let's go HW. So you have the Niners winning the NFC West. You did a movie.

I bet it. And I bet the Niners to win the AFC West, even though I think Arizona has a good, you know, it's an interesting team. I just can't do anything with the Rams.

You're despaired Seattle and you like Arizona. I think Arizona is better than Seattle. Okay. And I think that's always going to work out this year. It sounds like we're going to have to make a head-to-head bet. It's fine. Well, it says,

give me a movie for San Francisco. They have the easiest schedule in the NFL. That's part of the case for why. I have a good one for this. but I stole the last one spot. No, no, no, no, you do yours, Bill. No, you do. I want to hear yours.

No, my nine, because my nineers pick was, um, was cliffhanger, just because like everything's so tragic with the front 49ers are constantly. And the cliffhanger is tragic, but the cliffhangers aren't been used. So what do you got? So I was thinking above the law because it's them coming out of the coma. Yeah, yeah. That's good. That's hard to kill.

Hard to kill is coming out of the coma. I mixed up my seagals. So your three word titles. They're tough. They're tough, but that's why I'm here. I mean, I would argue if I'm not the preeminent Seagall expert, you are. And even I messed up the title, just though. We all do.

I just go above the law and hard to kill, screwed up. Well, I'm going to go hard to kill for this. Maybe House, that could be your, your random, your surprise pick. I like that. So hard to kill. Seagal got shot after a sex scene with his wife that became a rewatchable's category. Correct.

Because Seagal just starts going at it with the actress in a way that it's uncomfortable. Oh. It's so we had like, we had to create a category for like, this movie needed an intimacy coordinator. What's crazy is later in the movie, he has a sex scene with his future wife and they have no chemistry. Right. No chemistry at all.

And he goes with none of it. He goes with none of it. But anyway, he's in a coma, comes out of the coma, hasn't done anything for five years and sees Senator Trent on TV. Oh, yeah. And Senator Trent says, you can take Ted the bank. And he's, in the first words, he says, is, I'm going to take you to the bank, the blood bank. And then all of a sudden has a strength back.

Well, that's, nobody's ever come back from a coma faster. That would be San Francisco coming back. Yes. Hard to kill is the case. Great. Yes. Love it. I'm in.

All right. You're up, Kyle Brant. This would be the seventh seed on your board. Playoff team right here. I got the Cowboys. Whoa. I got the Schottonheimer Cowboys. Wow.

And my movie comp is Last Action Hero. I had that as well for them. See, Bill, the fan dual odds of how many times can we nail the same movie on the same team? Why? Because it's just so fucking much. It's overproduced. It's loud. There's so many cameos.

You can't keep track. It's still pretty good if you watch it. But what is Last Action Hero most remembered for? The soundtrack, Cypressill, Alice and Chains. and it's all the sound bites coming from Dallas, all the nonsense and the blather, but the movie is still pretty good, even though it's just a fucking lot.

Last action hero, cowboys. Big budget, Arnold, a lot of attention. Ultimately disappointing. It's the perfect thing. It was one of the only no-brainer. It has to doows. I had them lower on the list. I have them lower rank,

but the movie is a great movie. So the case is basically when Dak Prescott plays, they're usually pretty good yeah they weren't good last year just with that cross go just before he got it just like all right I'm up I am taking the Bears of Chicago okay

and I might change this before Thursday but right now I have them as a seventh seed I'm actually buying the Ben Johnson hype me too and they've just they've had good drafts they've

spent a lot of money. They beefed up stuff. Their biggest question is this left tackle thing where they just basically had an entire off-season audition for this left tackle and then landed on the same guy they had last year, which I thought was enjoyable. Braxton Jones. They just have a lot of talent and they have an easier schedule

and easier road than those other teams, even though they're playing all the NFC North teams. The road is easier. When did you know Jaden Daniels was good and you had the moment immediately? The moment, Bill, I started trusting Ben Johnson was, there was a moment early in training camp

where he screamed at Caleb like was tearing him apart. It gets to the press conference. The press goes, what was that about with Caleb? And he's like, he was late on the throw. He can't be late.

And he knows that. And now he knows that even better. I was like, holy shit. Like Caleb is the ultimate for real. NIA self-made millionaire. Everybody kisses his butt.

And now Ben Johnson's like, fuck you, kid. Like, be on time with my throw. I love it. One other thing with them, they play the Vikings Week 1 Monday Night Football at home.

And they're catching the Vikings. catching the Vikings at an optimal time where there's a bunch of shit going on with them and if you want to play them, you want to play them that week. Yep. Then they're at Detroit, home Dallas,

at Vegas, by week, at commanders, and then home saints. And it really feels like they could be five and two coming out of that. They have to be for the sea

because the bottom half of their schedule is brutal. They have Green Bay twice. They're on the road at San Francisco in week 17. They host the Lions in week 18. Everybody in that division has a tough road. I know. So my movie for them is Rocky 4. Oh, okay.

You know, nobody believed in Caleb Williams. Could he be the guy? I know that he got trapped there. Just bear with me. Sorry, go, go, cook. Just bear with me. Okay, cook. Because deep down, there's this whole Bears QB thing

that's lingered over the franchise forever. And then if he actually gets over the hump and the Russians are now cheering for Caleb Williams, you know, when I first got here, a lot of people were saying the Bears would never have a QB, but I guess it's better than 400 million people killing each other.

And if I could change, and it just, I don't know, it would be Caleb climbing the mountain. Yes. And doing the, Drago, Jim McMahon! Doing the Drago yell. Even Lambo field,

and it's like, a few cheers now for Caleb Williams. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. For some reason, Rocky Force struck with. I do love that. I have him over 4,000 yards this year. I bet that.

He's going to do it. I think, yeah. I mean, if Luther Burden's good, they might be genuinely dangerous. The schedule is the problem. Do you have a Loveland jersey yet, Kyle, or no? I have a Colston, Loveland jersey. I have an Alameday Zakias, Jersey. I have a Braxton Jones jersey, a Joe Tunis.

I have them all. I can go get them right now. It's a key. Yes, I do. Do you have them as a playoff team? have them as a playoff team. My list is getting convoluted, but yes, I think I do. And for no other reason

than, like, if not now, when? Their defensive coordinator is perfect. It's Dennis Allen, who's not good as a head coach, but a great defense coordinator. So many weapons. But I think to your point, Bill, like, the most interesting game of week one for me is Vikings at Bears, and the team that has to win the most week one is the Bears.

If you lose at home to J.J. McCarthy without Jordan Addison, like, that's so bad. So bad. Okay. How's, uh, oh no, we, we, we, We skip you on this one. We go back to Kyle for the next pick. Okay. I actually have the Vikings.

What? Yeah. Wait, what number are we? This would be, I think, number nine? I don't know. All right. Are we eight or nine? Nine, because you had the Cowboys at seven.

Detroit, Philly, Green Bay, Tampa, Seattle, San Francisco, down, Chicago. We're nine. Now, take the Vikings back. But I actually might choose an even crazier team. Okay. Okay. In my eight spot, I have the New York Giants.

Oh, my God. I love it. The only reason not to do it is the, is the schedule is like the scariest. It's terrible. It's the hardest schedule in the NFL. Okay. You know what, like, I have to tell you guys, I love you. Like, I fucking hate schedule talk.

I hate it. I think it's usually so misleading. It's all based on last year. I don't know. It's a pretty daunting thing. It's like, that team might end up sucking or have a million injuries. Like, there's so much turnover. I'm personally not intimidated by schedules.

I just not. Okay. My movie, it was already taken, but it was perfect. It was kindergarten cop. Like, there's just all these fun little kids. You know what I mean? There's Scataboo and there's Dart and there's neighbors. And Daibel and Russ are like Schwarzenegger and his partner.

And also in the history of New York Giants, they have a player who's named the Monty Tuma. So I don't have another movie. It's kindergarten cop. And I just, the question is, and let's talk Giants. House, I have it over or under, when does Jackson Dart start? Jackson Dart start I have it

Week 4.5 What do you think? Wow I thought it was going to be a little bit longer I think it's in I think it's in September So I you can't do

Kindergarde Crag Cubs You took it Can I suggest Yes First Blood And here's why Did we do First Blood yet We did First Blood too

Did we do First Blood? I don't remember Hold on I'm looking through Yeah we didn't do it We did Jim Cod I know that We didn't do first blood The problem with the Giants at this spot,

there's a cognitive dissonance here, right? Because if they're going to go to Jackson Dart in four or four games in it, that means that they've lost. No, or he's so good, they feel like they have a pretty good team and they want to activate him. Here's why I'll go first blood.

Or they're two and two, and he just, Russ hasn't been good. And they run the ball and play defense. And they're like, Russ, you got us on the ground, but now let's go to the kid and the kid works. And he gets to go to the Saints and they go three and two at that point. Sounds great.

Let me do my first blood case. You've been able to me twice. We know you don't like the Giants pick. Didn't you go over this at breakfast? Oh, yeah, I didn't. Jackson Dart is just John Rambo walking through a small town trying to get some breakfast. She's trying to stay out of everybody's way. And then he gets activated and fucking unleash his holy hell.

And it's about the 20-minute mark of the movie, basically, when all of a sudden he's a superhero. That would be the case here for Jackson Dart, when the Giants. just to get unleashed. It's like, oh, my God, he took down those three guys in the prison cell, stole a moped and went into the mountains. This guy's a fucking badass. That would be the first web case. I really tried to talk myself into the Giants going nine and eight.

And that was the one schedule where I was like, holy shit. Guys, don't be scared by the fucking schedules. Look at the teams. Don't worry about the schedules. Are they going to beat the chiefs? No. Even though it's at home, but are they going to beat the Chargers at home?

Maybe. I don't hate that. I hate Giants fans because they took two Super Bowes for me and remind me about it all the time. I'd actually be happy for them if the Giants were good. Like if Scada Bow is getting goal line carries and Jackson Darts good. That is fun. And they have like a pass rush that's the 07 Giants again.

It's like this is fun. Tremendous. And they go to Russ and they go after four weeks. Russ, it's over. And he goes, no, bitch. It's over. Well, the other case for them, and this is sadly,

does not apply to Indianapolis because they're not going to be good. But this is a, we all get fired if the season doesn't work out team. Yeah. So if they think Jackson darts good, they're going to play them. Yeah. There's a different kind of pressure with the Giants. Like, I think all those three other teams the division have to do incredible things this year. The Giants are like, let's be like pretty good this year and we have things to build on.

I love Dable. I think he'll work. I do. I believe once they get dart in. All right. So I'm up and I'm delighted because House interrupted me twice with the last team. Now I'm just going to take his team here, the Washington commanders. I do not have them as a playoff team.

They fit first about every regression exercise you're ever going to do. They check all the boxes. I'm still not sure if Jada Daniels can be healthy for 17 games, even though I respect the guy. Here's the thing. If they're a playoff team again, then Jada Daniels just moves into that Josh Allen group of just he's 10 wins a year for the rest of his life.

I think this was a team that the fourth down lock last year, year, the schedule, the new coach replacing, the new coach bump. So many things, but in their favor, they fucking completed a Hail Mary and ruined the bear season. They just had a couple of ridiculous wins. I'm going demolition

man for them for this season. It should have, it looks good on paper. This movie should have been awesome. You got Stallone and Snipes and Sandra Bullock just feeling her oats out. Cool premise.

there's a cryo prison? Yeah. I got to chase somebody and it just Dennis Leary. The pieces just didn't totally by the way, I've watched that

Moition Man 12 times. The pieces never really fit together and I think that's going to be this Washington season. What pieces aren't fitting together for Washington?

Much harder schedule. What about the wide receiver? What are we doing there? Oh, he's going to, he's playing. He'll be in week one. Under the old contract? You have that you spent some money

on these two defensive line guys who didn't really play last year. I'm not sure about your secondary at all. You got old guys everywhere. It's the oldest team in the NFL. The one thing I'll say out loud, I won't say the line because I respect you and Cousin Sal.

They are favored by a number that is inappropriate against the New York Giants. One of the best bets for week one is playing the New York Giants against taking the number. Interesting. Historically, those teams play each other tough. The front seven for the Giants is as good as any.

The only case that I'll make for Washington is they got markedly better on offense, assuming McCorn's back for week one. I keep assuming that. They're markedly better. The line is better. What they have in terms of a double-headed running back tandem with Rodriguez and Bill Jacori, whatever, the extra. Like hyphen guy.

Yeah, exactly. Hyphen change, but call me Bill, but I have three other names. And Debo. in a Kingsbury system I think it's going to be a dynamic offense counter Go on Did we see Debo's best years already

Of course Doesn't matter Are you going to have the same luck you had last year Did we see Austin Eckler's best years Previous 20 for 23 On 4th Down conversions And completed a Hail Mary They're going to keep going forward

On 3rd and 4th down They're going to play 4 down offense all season long I'm not saying that they're going to convert that number I have them stepping back They're not going to win 12 games this season I have them, Kyle I have them just on the outside. And I'll tell you how's I'm not talking shit here.

I think they lose week one to the giants. I just, I'm petrified of it. You're not talking shit. I think that's a very, very sound observation. More importantly, we've never done demolition man on the rewatchables. Where do you stand on it? Stand in great places. It's a lot, predicted a lot of the future, Wesley Snipes.

And I look at the three seashells, kind of like the commander's wide receiver room. Like, we don't really know what they do. Like, what are those things? So we can go out, Taco Bell plays a role in it. The warden from Shawshank. It's great. I love it. Okay.

Touchless sex. It's odd, but it's in the movie. It's a very strange movie. All right, you're up. What do you got? Oh, I'm up? Yeah, you're up. All right, what number is?

Is this like 10 or 11? Yeah, we're in the double figures range. All right. Here's my sleeper. This is like my super, super, super sleeper. I like this team. I have the Carolina Panthers. Wow.

Oh, man. I love it. based on this. I like the coach. I like the staff. I like the quarterback. I like how they played at the end of last year. They scared the shit out of the Eagles. They scared the shit out of the chiefs. They were winning games down the stretch. And I think there's continuity. I like the draft picks. I like, I like them to play like in early December. Like, holy shit. When the playoffs scenarios are up, like the Panthers are in that like in the hunt column or whatever it is. I really do. I had them, Bill, as I had them as Terminator 1 because it's like, holy shit, where are this

movie come from. Wow. But we've used Terminator, I think. Yeah, you have. Panthers. So, what do we have left? It's not a lot of good picks left of movies, but, I mean, we do have Undersea two left. I don't know. It doesn't really fit. We have dark territory. That's the NFC South. We have over the top is left, but I don't know if you want to waste on the Panthers, but your excitement for the Panthers. Maybe this is where. over the top goes over the top and bryce young is the child in the military academy who learns how to be tough and learns how to arm wrestling and learns how to love his father dave canales and david tepper is the robert loggia up there with all the money saying i want the kid like that

we can make that work yeah and matt row is the mom just watching for the hospital bed also it's a very over the top pick to say the panthers so like it all works i'm talking panthers very over the top i explained over the top to house today and i think he had a big memory of it and trying to explain how important it was. Yeah. He wasn't. He was just thinking about it. Our boys from Carolco. Think about it. Yeah, our guys.

They're like, we want to make an arm wrestling movie, but we also want to make a truck driving movie. Let's save some money and just make it one movie. Fine. Merged them. We kind of fucked up the order. House was supposed to go there, but it's fine because I don't think he was going to take Carolina. I definitely was not going to take Carolina. So I'm going to jump.

We'll make believe houses up here and then we'll jump it ahead. Who do you have here, has. I think Atlanta is interesting. I thought they were more interesting a couple weeks ago before all these injuries on their offensive line. Yeah. But they you can't

overstate how much Kurt Cousin sabotage their season. There's really, it's not possible to over-exaggerate what he did. He single-handedly submarined them with that stretch of games that he had. He had by far the most

fourth quarter turnovers where the game was within one score. He had near the most turnovers that were returned for points. We don't need to hear about how bad Kirk Cousins was again. What the point is...

Kirk's probably watching and you heard his feelings. That seems like such a nice guy. They have talent and they improved on defense, I think. The defense let them down over the course of the season. Well, they definitely spent next year's first round pick trying to improve their defense. Well, listen, I Listen, fantasy draft last night for me

and everyone is saying take Bijan number one like he's the guy and I couldn't do it. I just couldn't pull the trigger. It's like a Falcons running back in 2020. I like Bejohn and I think he's really talented but like the number one pickover, I couldn't get there. All right, we're coming back.

If you noticed that edit, that was because we couldn't figure out the movies. Then producer Steve Serrudi reminded us that we used Rocky Ford to start this podcast and then I did it again for for the Bears. I'm going to make the case Rocky 4 eligible twice Do it a third time You are the Falcons

How about the Falcons We haven't used Roadhouse yet Maybe this is a fun spot for Roadhouse Talk about it House thinks the Falcons are going to be exciting They have a lot of fantasy guys Nobody thinks it's going to win an Oscar I don't know

There's some comedy Now why are you shaking your head sadly No it's the rowdiest bar south of the Mason Dixon line Yeah it's somewhere in the south with Atlanta I think that's the right call Hey, you know why? I got one. Have you seen this video where someone was chirping Michael Pennix and calling him Michael penis and he, like, confronted him.

And it looked like he was about to roundhouse kick him or something, like Dalton. Like, don't mess with Pennicks. He doesn't think that's funny. So there you have it. He'll rip your throat right out. Yeah, and it's, and there's like, I'm trying to figure out who Kyle Pitts is in this. Maybe it's the guy that gets sent in it. It's Dalton's buddy who just gets the complete shit kicked out of him.

And Kirk Cousins would be Sam Elliott. He's the old vet who might have to come in for one fight. Yeah, Robles makes sense. This is good. This is good. This is good. Yes. Who is our guy, Brad Leslie in this?

Brad West. Is that like Arthur Black? Yeah, Arthur Black. I brought J.C. Penny here because of me. All right. So Atlanta, then Carolina, and then Minnesota is going to be my pick here. And Minnesota, I can't believe it took this long to go. I had a stretch where I had Minnesota winning.

the division at one point in early August. With JJ. And I might have even have a fando a bet when I was in Chicago on them to win like 10 games. I just don't like what I'm smelling from this team the last couple weeks. I think the defense is still going to be the

defense. Just throw the combo of the McCarthy with some wide receiver uncertainty, harder schedule stuff. Somebody kind of has to lose out of the NFC North. And I just think I like Chicago more.

I just have a lot of questions with them offensively beyond Jefferson. And we're just pushing McCarthy into this. I know. When he missed all last year, he's coming off an injury. The more I stared at it, it just made me nervous. The thing that got me off of Minnesota was when you go into the numbers and look at how incredible Sam Donald was on passes that were 20 yards or longer

down the field, he led the league in all, every one of those submetrics having to do with longer passes down the league. And I have no confidence whatsoever that J.J. McCarthy will be able to replicate that. And it was a really important part of that Minnesota offense. I think J.J. McCarthy is the most pivotal player in the whole NFL this year. Like so much way, is he good? Is he not?

We have no fucking clue. He has this Lamborghini and Justin Jefferson. And you know how it goes. Like they start O&2 and he throws a couple picks. And it's like, well, we could have had Donald still. Look at him. He's winning in Seattle. That's a bad storyline.

So he seems like a great dude. McCarthy, but it's a lot to step into and he's played no football in the NFL. Ironically, I'm pairing those two storylines together with liking Seattle because I think the Sam Donald nobody bleeds us, but then also the Minnesota not being as good and people going,

hey, you know, it's pretty good Sam Donald. Anyway, my movie is Bloodsport because the thing that is fun with them is their defense and Bloodsport is just a violent. Okay. Incredible action movie. Chong Lee, I think, is, I'm not sure who? The Lions.

The Lions. It's Dan Campbell, basically. Bill, I got Bloodsport for the Vikings. I just throw thrilled to tell you that. I got a written down. Wow, we've matched on like eight. You guys. If we had that match game, we would have won. We would have been going to Hawaii for a week. At the beginning of Bloodsport, Van Dam's acting is so fucking bad. But by the end, it's like he does that scene with Ray Jackson where he's like, if you ever need me, my brother, I'll be there. I was like, holy shit, Van Dam. That's really good. I think that's how McCarthy has to be this year. It might start rough, but he'll get better in the Kumete that is the NFC North. Yeah, I think I said this when we did the pod.

It's the best acted scene in a bad movie of all of these movies. Yes. He has this moment in the hospital. And what was this guy? What was the guy? Ray Jackson. He goes, Donald Gibb. Anytime, any place, anywhere.

I got you. Or whatever he says. And Van Dam's like, I love you, my brother. And it's like, why am I welling up? It's fucking bloods for it. I'm going to choke up. He used to write columns about that. that the director was probably on the monitor

taken off his headphones, being like, cut? Wow. Guys, really good. It's got no more takes. We're done. That's lunch. All right, you're...

I'm up, I think, or is it... No, because we screwed up. So it was Carolina, Minnesota now house is up. And I'm really excited for this one because I have the wine bottle ready for that. How did we not get to the Cardinals yet? is that who you're taking?

Yeah. I think the Cardinals are live this season. All of their offensive metrics were good. I mean, you know, obviously the story is always what version of Kyle or how consistent can he be, but they have room to improve on defense. And I thought as the season went on, like they were legit threatening for a playoff spot. It feels weird to have them where we have them. They're, to me, as good of a breakout candidate.

it. I like them way better than I like Seattle. I think Seattle with a poorest offensive line with Sam Darnold under duress is a disaster waiting to happen. I think this Arizona thing, like that's a sustainable on both sides of the ball with the talent. They made the improvements on defense that they need, and I trust Gannon. So I like this Arizona team. Well, we don't have a lot of movies left. I can do one. What do you got? I have the Cardinals as Mark for Death is kind of a ridiculous.

Stephen Seagal movie in which he fights the, quote, Jamaican voodoo posse. Oh, no. And it's kind of like a dumb movie, but really likable. Like, the Cardinals, very likable. And the comeback for Kyler, to your point house, to have an ascension to start him again this year, would be like Screwface's comeback after he gets his head cut off with the katana, and he comes back to life to fight Hatcher. So I like Mark for Death.

It's not like one of the most famous Segal movies, kind of like the Cardinals, small media market, but talented. And there's still an arm breaking bill over the shoulder, and it gives you what you want. Well, of course there is. It's a Scal movie. It's the only one out of the we haven't done that in Understige 2 out of the Scal catalog. Those are the two. Unless we, probably

in season 15 of the rewatchables, when we talk ourselves in the executive decision. Yes, and on deadly ground. On deadly ground, we might actually have to do. I like Mark for death for them. That's good. I actually had Mark for death for the next team. Oh, no.

Kyle's up. All right. Shit. We're really deep now. I only have a few teams left. Are we on 16? Is this the last team? I think we have two teams left,

and I can't believe one of the teams hasn't been picked yet. We have the Rams in the world. I'll just put my cards on the table. I have the Saints at 16. So who's 50? Who's left? The Rams.

The Rams are 15. Oh, Jesus Christ. How does that happen? Yeah. All right. Well, listen, I believe in the Rams way more than this. And here's my take, and this is nuclear. I said you believe in the coaches.

I think Sean McVeigh is the best coach in the NFL House. If they said that Matthew Stafford was out for the season, I would still think the Rams are fighting for a wild car with Garoppel. That's my take. I believe in McVeigh that much in their defense and their run game. I just think he's the best coach in the league. I do. I don't have their dad at 15.

So how did they fall to 15 on our list? I don't know. I think I kept picking teams because I like the movie better. so who's your movie for this one i don't know what's left we have only a couple movies left right i already used jim kata i used what's what's left anybody above the law is left under siege two is left they're down here because you dummies put the panthers the giants all the way up and i did that that's it it's it looks like we only have under siege two and and above the law left well i had above the law for the browns because many of their players think they are but i um i went

Let's go dark territory Under Siege 2, Bill, for something, you know why? Because I've never seen that movie before and I've never seen the Sean McVeigh Jimmy Garoppolo Rams or the injured back Matthew Stafford Rams. But I still kind of believe in it.

Okay. So what movie did you do? Under siege 2. Under siege 2. I've never seen it. You've never seen Underseage 2? I refuse to watch it. It's like I don't watch the hangover sequels. I don't want to watch that.

I like the original only. My relationship is strong. It's on a train. People say it's not very good. I'm out. Who said it's not very good? Many. That movie is like, Understage 2 is not well liked.

That's not, that's, you parted with Undersege 2? In this house, it's liked? I've never seen it. Sell me on it. It's Understage 2. I mean, for 15 years, it was on all the time and Underseage 1 was never on. So Understage 2 is like, all right, there's not the beer I wanted, left in the fridge, but there's that beer left.

I'll drink that. That was under siege too, like forever. Because under siege, I don't like, it's like, Tommy Lee Jones, like, made it disappear from cable for... It's like, I've never seen U.S. Marshals, the fugitive sequel. I don't watch it. I don't care. I like the original. That I can defend you on. Yeah.

All right. New Orleans. Here we go. That's our last team. Do you think this is the worst team in the week? It's just, what is the plan here? Like, they don't have a quarterback, right? So every other one, everybody else kind of does. So their defense is good.

Like they have really good defensive players. But I just, I, new head coach, no quarterback, what are we doing? People think they're going for Arch Manning. Horrible organization, poorly run. I don't think there's any scenario where they're not the worst team in the NFC. I'd be shocked. I have adjusted alt-unders on them already house on Fandul. You can bet them to win three wins or less, two wins or less.

And I'm not giving them a good action movie. So we're going to have to go to one of the worst action movies. What do you got? Ever. It's Stone Cold with Brian Bosworth. Yeah! Did the Boswell ever play for the Saints? That would have taken it to another level.

Probably. Well, there was this era where they just, like Stallone and Schwarzenegger and Van Dam. All these guys got old, Segal. And we were just like, we need some new action. Maybe it'll be Brian Bosworth. And it's like, you know what? It's not going to be Brian Bosworth, actually. It will definitely 100% not be.

Brian Bosworth. It's a really bad movie. I can't defend it. I wouldn't watch it if it was on right now. And I think New Orleans is going to be bad. So there you go. Our guy William Forsy, aka Richie from Out for Justice in Stone Cold, in which Brian Bosworth goes undercover with a biker gang. It's awful, just not even fun awful, just awful. How has you ever seen Stone Cold? I don't think of a half. I think ironically, I've only seen it once. Yeah, I've watched it. I think ironically, it's in New Orleans. Is it possible? I don't remember.

Maybe not. But that'd be great. It's bad. What's funny is Stone Cold Steve Austin then came in and took Stone Cold and like turned and that became. And it's so like it even made it go away even faster and more violently. At the same time, Vanilla Ice was in a movie called Cold as Ice, which is also like, what are we doing with all the cold?

It's very strange. And none of them were good. Yeah. So that was 1991. That came out. Stone Cold. A street smart cop goes under. cover to infiltrate and bring to justice a ruthless motorcycle gang before they can carry out

their plans of tyranny and murder. Do we have some Lance Hendrickson in there too, Bill? I think he might show up. He's in everything back then. Yeah, I thought so. I thought so. Our lead lady was Arabella Holzbog. That was it for her. That's her character or the actor? I never heard of the actress. She played dancing. All right, that's it. So our big fuck up here is the Rams are not going to be the 15th best team I don't know how we ended up but I also think that speaks to how good the NFC is compared to the

AFC like we got to the AFC there's seven teams left and you don't like any of them you get to the NFC it's like all right Carolina maybe the Giants like you could really do some talking so there you go Kyle you have a good time I had the best time I'm trying to think of the one that was the most satisfying

I like the Cowboys' Last Action Hero and I like the Ravens as Action Jackson guys this was I could have done this for three more hours. I love it. Let's do MLB and NBA teams, too. Why the fun not? I think my highlight was when I took Rocky 4,

even though it had already been taken with the first pick of the draft. But I took it anyway, I just didn't care. Guess what? Kyle Bray, great to see you. We could see a good morning football and all over the place and definitely on the rewatchables too. We're already talking about the next one. Thanks for coming on, buddy.

My pleasure. Great times, KB. I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to insult any of your ex-colleagues. I'll say that for the next pod. Who would it be? we'll do a draft I know who the number one selection is

I don't sorry for that pod sorry Pete bye cover it bye guys see it oh that was awesome so fun Bill thank you guys yeah really thanks for sticking around so long

of course no it was a great time good times all right thanks guys see you KB all right so that was it for the big the movie I'll give it a B plus

I had a good time I mean hard to keep track of while also hosting it and coming up with the teams, but I thought we did a good job. I want to see the rankings of I think the Rams were the big mistake. Somehow I don't see them

falling to 15 in the NFC. I think both of those teams. It's just Carolina and the Giants ascendant, but this is what happens in football. We, the big thing is, so on Thursdays, you're going to be on my Thursday podcast. We're launching, Ringer Gambling show this relaunching show this week.

And you're going to be on that on Monday and Wednesday. And on Thursday, we're going to launch this gimmick called Ringer 107. where we are going to make 107 football picks for the 22 weeks of the NBA of the NFL season. 22? 3. 23?

Yeah. Super Bowl. So five picks a week. And it's going to be four straight up picks. And then one has to be a teaser, a parlay around even odds. I'm going to do two. We're going to agree on two together. And then you're going to do the fifth one.

And we're going to be a team. and we're actually going to compete against some other ringer people. And Fando's going to put odds of us going head to head and all that. And the goal is like 107 picks total for the season. I'm not doing a million-dollar picks for this season. And we're hoping that we can go 60 and 47 would be the dream. Can we get to 60 wins?

What's a good record? What's a record that you would be delighted by? 58 and 49? Yeah, I want to get around 54, 55%. That's how you win at football pickings. I feel like we should be able to do that. It feels like we should be able to, but it's... I mean, come on.

So, yeah, so that Thursday night, we'll be doing our picks. We'll be using those lines. The lines are going to freeze on Thursday morning for all the shows. And we'll be doing ring our 107. And that's what we're going to be doing. But we'll talk more about that. The next time you're going to be in here is that Thursday. I mean, after Tommy Fleetwood wins a PGA tournament, anything's possible.

Man, he did it. Thank God. Thank God for Tommy. He took out the check that he won today is enough for all those. of the tournaments that he should have won combined. He made all the money back. He did. And then we spent the weekend with Jacko.

Amazing. And we watched the Yankees, Red Sox. We watched two of the games. And he started drinking at 10.54 in the morning. He wanted to know when we could go to the bar after the first four innings. I mean, I'm probably jing. As we're recording this right now, the Red Sox are playing the Yankees. But we had a good time doing that.

We saw Cousin Sal. We saw Rob Stone. we had a lot of the greats we had a fun uh fun trip and then the other thing is we're doing this ringer fantasy football draft yes that we're doing on monday which is tomorrow in person yahoo you have a team i have a team we're going head to head we're doing all fun so it's football time it's officially now it officially feels this is my last sunday podcast without the cuss people can't wait uh we'll have it so thanks for doing the movie draft thanks for pretending you've seen any of these movies uh thanks

Thanks to Gahau as well. Thanks to Sir Rudy. Thanks to Eduardo. And I will be back on this podcast, I think Tuesday. But Thursday is going to be the big two-part over-under podcast with me and Sal. I'll be interested to see. You guys swayed me on a couple teams today. I still haven't landed on my final outcomes.

But it'll be interesting to see where we go. Good. But I'm eager to hear. Thanks, house. My pleasure. I don't have periods with him. Must be 21 plus

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