The Bill Simmons Podcast - A Basketball Movie Character Draft LIVE From Austin, Texas, With Shea Serrano, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
Episode Date: February 20, 2025It's a Grantland reunion! The Ringer's Bill Simmons is LIVE in Austin, Texas, and he is joined by Shea Serrano, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey to hit a myriad of topics before drafting a basketball te...am of movie characters. Host: Bill Simmons Guests: Shea Serrano, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey Producers: Kyle Crichton, Chia Hao Tat, and Steve Ceruti The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hey, this is weird.
I'm in Austin, Texas.
It's freezing cold.
We have a grand land reunion.
It's coming up next.
We're also brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network.
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Don't forget about the Prestige TV podcast. We're doing white Lotus and Severance covered all of it.
I'm there on Sunday nights as well. My Sunday night podcast with Rosillo is coming back
this Sunday. I think, I hope, hopefully, hopefully Rosillo knows. We'll have to tell him. Anyway,
what you're about to listen to is me and Sean Fantasy and Chris Ryan and Shay
Serrano going to Austin, Texas, where for some reason it's 30 degrees.
Was not on the agenda for me, but we're here anyway and we put together a big show at the
Paramount Theater.
There was 1,100 people apparently that are coming to this.
I'm taping this before the show.
I hope it goes well.
Wish us luck.
Let's bring it, Pearl Jam. ["Winter Pag"]
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We're so happy to be here.
We love being in Austin.
I'm going to introduce...
You guys don't know who's here tonight, right?
No.
First up...
the Prince of Philadelphia, Chris Ryan.
Next up, the self-proclaimed King of letterbox, Sean Fennessy.
And last but not least, from the heart of Texas, the one, the only, Shea Serrano.
It's a grand land reunion, everybody. How you feeling, Shea?
I feel fantastic.
I feel so good.
Sean went to a DVD store for like two hours today.
What store was that, Sean?
I went to Waterloo Records.
Shout out Waterloo.
Yeah.
And I spent $184 on Blu-rays.
We almost died on the way there and back.
Yeah.
It was fucking cold.
Yeah.
What is up Austin?
So I was here for the Dallas Super Bowl in Texas.
What was that?
Like 2010?
And it snowed like an inch and nobody could get anywhere
because they had no snowplows.
And that was when I realized, oh yeah, Texas,
doesn't do well with cold weather.
We are gonna do a bunch of stuff with you guys today.
We have a big, fun, crazy draft
in the second part of this podcast.
But we're gonna start, we're gonna do a hodgepodge thing.
Let's start with All-Star Weekend,
because it just happened.
Sure.
Boom.
Oh, wow.
Tough beat.
Second lowest ratings ever.
Shay, is this song cost going to be fixed?
It can be fixed, and I'm going to tell you how it's going to be fixed.
There's a man, a seven foot five man in San Antonio.
And he's going to save it. a seven foot five man in San Antonio. Yeah. Yeah.
And he's going to save it.
What's going to happen is,
same thing that we saw happen
with the end season tournament
where LeBron said,
hey, guess what, I care about this.
And then everybody else went,
okay, cool, we care about it too.
So that's Wimby.
That's going to happen with Wimby.
He's going to raise another seven foot five guy
in San Antonio.
He's going to take it over.
I didn't know there was another one coming.
Right now the guy, Joker is the guy and he is like,
I don't care about any of this at all.
I don't care one single percent.
So everybody else falls in line.
When Wimby is the guy, he's gonna care
and they're all gonna care.
CR, what'd you think of my idea that we split the game up
and the Sunday game is just guys from the top five seeds
and they play for home court advantage.
And the, I liked it to the extent, but it's really going to have to just convince these guys to want
to play more basketball and to play more hard basketball. I was thinking about this. I just
think that this is probably entering the pro bowl zone where you just got to move it to that end of
the season. After the season, it's just like, you guys want to play? We'll have like seven foot rims.
You can do somersaults, you know, like whatever you can get trampolines out there. Like it could we'll have like seven foot rims.
it might have culturally expired, which has happened a few times in our lifetime,
specifically with some actors too.
Like who?
I don't know, who have culturally expired.
Like Kevin Spacey?
Yeah, well that's the...
Um, he's...
That was good, under two minutes.
Thank you.
That was nice.
I knew he'd come up.
I was in San Francisco this past weekend
and I had tickets to the event and did not go to any of the events, which is
not a good sign obviously, so
I okay. I call pitch in my idea. Let's here. I think they should scrap the
game. I think they should scrap the done contest. I think they should scrap
the three point shooting contest. That's everything scrap the futures game.
What about the skills come so I think that they should only do the skills competition,
but for two full days, I'm not kidding and make it like an insane double dare
obstacle course. Oh, but American gladiators, grass, okay, but the
winning team and I was inspired by when be in cp three
should automatically get home court advantage
throughout the playoffs.
So there's like real stakes,
so you'd have these guys like during practice
during the season, like really working on throwing the ball
through that round circle or whatever,
and all the stuff they have to do there.
It's just like the skills competition matters.
You could win like seven games in the regular season
and then get the one seed.
Yes. I like that.
Yeah, you could be like the playing team at number ten, but you got a home court
games that would work for the Sixers. I for a number of years, I have told
everybody that I met that Sean Finnesse is one of the smartest people I've ever
met in my life. I changed my mind right now. It's a horrible idea. It's the
worst idea I've ever heard. No, no bad ideas in a brainstorm. Well, the fact
that we're coming up with ideas like this tells you how grim it is for all No bad ideas in a brainstorm. happens at a time where football's over, you want basketball. Like you want important basketball games.
Like why not just give the Bucs 10 days off, but then bring them back and have it all work
so that teams have bi-weeks throughout the season.
Isn't that what they're trying to do with Joel Embiid?
That was a Joel Embiid joke you guys didn't hear because of the mic.
But yeah, that is what they're trying to do with Joel Embiid.
Shay, how would David Stern have handled the NBA in 2025?
I think about this a lot.
He's like the angry grandparent you had that you were like,
-"Oh, man." -"He would have been so mad."
I hate Grandpa. He's so annoying.
And then you kind of miss him.
Yeah.
He would have cussed out everybody.
It would have been some private meeting in a cafeteria
and they all would have been sitting at cafeteria tables
and he'd just been like, guys, what the fuck is going on?
What are you doing?
That's all that would have happened.
Do you miss Stern fantasy?
I miss the idea of the power that he represented.
I also love the idea of him firing Nico Harrison.
You know, like he would have just done that.
This guy is out of the paint. like he would have done. This guy is out of the pain
and he would have done something like that, so I missed that
to do people in Austin. So do you lean toward the spurs or like what's that?
So when the Mavericks
you guys are just luca, wait okay,. So when the Mavericks traded Luka,
you guys are just laughing your asses off?
Yeah.
What was your reaction, Shay?
That was the first time I ever felt bad
for Dallas Mavericks fans.
Like, I've laughed at every single horrible thing
that has ever happened.
When they lost to the Warriors,
the We Believe Warriors, number one seed,
Belly laughed at them.
When they had their championship stolen by the Miami Heat in 2006 seed, belly laughed at them. When they had their championship stolen
by the Miami Heat in 2006, belly laughed at them.
And then when I saw this, I felt like sadness,
genuine sadness.
You're a man of the people.
Yeah, like what...
2011.
Yeah.
2011.
What was your reaction when you heard the trade CR?
I never had you...
Is Dirk here? Only people I didn't have on a podcast. Was me. What was your reaction when you heard the trade CR? I never had you...
Is Dirk here?
Only people I didn't have on a podcast.
Was me.
My reaction was I was coming out of the movie Companion, and I was just like utterly shocked,
couldn't believe it.
My favorite thing about it since it's happened is definitely that the Mavericks keep finding
executives to do profiles
where they're like, I underestimated the crowd reaction to this.
Like Rick Welts just did one. I was like, Rick Welts works with the Mavericks?
And they're just pushing these guys out on the ice floe to get shot with arrows
every other day. It's amazing. Nico's doing a good job getting other people involved.
I know you're a student of journalism, Sean, have you been following
some of these features with the MAVs?
Have they been trying to, we weren't actually going to give Luca the MAX extension, people
didn't realize because we're idiots.
So we weren't going to do that.
Yeah.
I think that they shouldn't talk, which is not good for journalism, obviously.
I think that everyone should be held accountable for their actions.
I did have an idea for ownership groups, though,
which is I think if you're gonna buy a team,
you should have to pass, like, an NBA literacy test.
Like, when you become an American citizen
and you have to learn about, like,
who wrote the Declaration of Independence.
You should have to know the history of the game.
So, Patrick Dumont?
Well, I'm not gonna name any names.
Just be like, what year did the ABA and NBA merge? And he's like, uh, 1988? of the game.
run teams that's great for us for content. But the real thing that's interesting is the Lakers are villainous again.
Because they pull off this trade and then they trade for Mark Williams and then they just void the trade.
They're like, this hasn't happened in like two decades.
And Mark Williams is like, I'm actually, no thanks. And then the trade deadline passed. Charlotte couldn't trade them.
But if somebody did this in your fantasy league,
it would be the angriest chain of emails ever.
And people would stop talking,
and it's like, Bob's not invited to Gary's wedding now.
Yeah.
Yeah, oh, it's because of Mark Williams' trade?
Yeah, yeah, that's what happened.
They said they haven't voided their trade in 15 years yet. Yeah. And apparently when you make a trade, Yeah, that's what happened.
that they were saving the spot for or the trade assets for, I'm going to lose it.
Are you guys on my side that more people knew about this trade than everyone's letting on?
Because I think a lot of people knew and then they're all like,
we didn't know, found out last second. I don't believe it. I think both coaches knew I think I think Anthony Davis knew I think the agent knew like he had to
Wave the no trade clause. I'm just never gonna believe it. They're never gonna convince me. I
Think LeBron knew what about but Luca had no idea. I think Luca was the only one that didn't know
Luca was like I just got an awesome 15 million dollar
Greater Dallas area the Mavericks were like yeah, he didn't know cuz he was out there getting fucking drunk
in the greater Dallas area. The Mavericks were like,
yeah, he didn't know
because he was out there getting fucking drunk.
And eating like fried chicken.
Lazy motherfucker.
He was like, binging Netflix.
So, Shay,
the Luca Doncic movie,
when they make it,
is it a TV movie,
like a Ryan Murphy type of movie?
Is it a sports movie?
Is it a dark, seedy drama that Sean would really like
and do multiple big picture episodes of?
Or is it a heist movie?
It's like Margin Call.
Margin Call.
That's what it's gonna be.
Yeah.
Just a bunch of late night whatever's happening
in a whatever.
That's all that it is.
You like that, would you, you wanna walk through
the heist movie with Luca Doncich,
with Polinka's Neil McCauley?
Yeah, well he kind of dresses like Neil McCauley a little bit, maybe
a slightly tighter slack, but condo with no further.
Genie's never let him feel comfortable about to buy furniture. I do like the
idea of it being a Ryan Murphy FX series, but I would want the same cast as
as the Aaron Hernandez show, like just put them in
Leo buts to play Patrick to my
what do you think fantasy? I think this is the chance to finally get Oliver
Stone back where he belongs. Oh, oh yeah, and I think that we have yet to see
the way we can conspiracy theorize about what's happened here, but I think he
should do it entirely in the register of the doors where it's just
like Nico Harrison is just tripping on LSD the whole time. He like micro doses
every morning and he's like yeah, Lucas should go like just losing his mind,
but if they do a native american guy in the desert, it would be great if they
do it like JFK. That means you get to play Donald Sutherland who benefited
you know. Sounds great If they do it like JFK, that means you get to play Donald Sutherland. Who benefited? You know?
That sounds great.
What you're laying out though, because then Cuban, maybe Cuban's like, because he's better
that he sold the team.
So he wants them to destroy the team.
And he's like, he's like drugging Nico Harrison.
Yeah, this is like, it's getting dark.
It's like traffic.
That would be great.
Kevin Durant.
You guys like Kevin Durant, right?
He loves Austin.
Katie's a little bit of a nomad.
You know, starts out in OKC, nine years there,
goes to Golden State, goes to Brooklyn,
goes to Phoenix, almost gets traded in the Deadline.
And yet I think we all like him.
I always feel like I'm like a Katie defender.
You saw the clip this week with...
from the new Netflix series about the Olympics.
KD just starts crying. He loves basketball so much.
Like, I really think he's one of the most genuine athletes
that we have, but also takes a ton of shit.
Shay, what do you want his next five years to look like?
I wouldn't mind him...
If you could direct his next five years, what would it be?
I wouldn't mind him spending two years in San Antonio.
That would be great.
Maybe the two last prime years, right?
The last two good years, and then the last three years,
they bring the Sonics back.
It's time for the league to expand.
And then he goes back there.
I think that would be really cool.
So two years, like Wemby's first, I can't believe he's in the finals this young. Yeah, and he's
part of that with the air fox. I like that. What do you think shot? I think he
should make a sequel to the Disney original film thunder struck to
Phoenix rising.
Keep following that story a little bit.
You know he messed up. He should have signed with the New York Knicks,
but he was a coward, so screw him.
I actually you lost the crowd.
It's thirty degrees outside.
We can't intact.
I love you, Texas.
I actually think even KD would admit Nets over next was a mistake.
Yeah, I'd like him to go to Boston and then
orchestrate a trade for Kyrie Irving to come back to Boston with him.
And then maybe orchestrate a trade for James Harden to come back.
Tatum and Brown for KD.
Yeah.
I think the San Antonio thing would be great because KD really does have genuine affection
for University of Texas even though he was only here one year.
But the way he talks about it would be cool.
Yeah.
Our drive back and forth.
He would be instantly beloved in San Antonio.
Which is what he needs.
Yeah, he does.
Because you don't want to be the guy who played for 25 years and
everyone's like, ah, like, like, Vince Carter. Vince Carter got retired by Toronto. Yeah, he's like got a retirement ceremony every week. And it's like, he played for the Nets for four years,
the retiree. Wasn't there like a 15 minute honorarium to him during the dunk contest or
something? Yeah. Like, yeah, that was weird. Yeah, it really feels like we're pushing.
He's still alive.
He's right there.
He's really pushing.
Right, then he came out and it was like, I thought he was dead.
Vince Carter's at SNL 50 like, ah, it's all right.
It feels like there's a lot of rehabilitation stuff with retired stars whose careers didn't
turn out perfectly.
Carmelo's another one.
And then Dwight Howard's like, I'd like to figure out how to do this,
but I'm too much of a mess.
I can't.
But in general, it's funny how like we hear way more about Carmelo and way more
about Vince Carter now than Tim Duncan, who's one of the best seven players of
all time.
But it's kind of in one way, it's Tim Duncan's fault because he doesn't do like the post-career,
look at me, look at me, remember?
Like he just doesn't, he doesn't care.
But now nobody talks about him.
Well I think that's by design though.
There's nothing he wants less
than to be part of a conversation.
Right.
So he's doing great.
Yeah.
He came in, won five titles, got the fuck out.
Is he coaching?
He's coaching now, right?
Yeah, he might pop in and coach a little bit.
But that's the point that we're making.
Who knows?
He's like John Wick.
Who knows?
He's hunched over so you don't notice him.
Tim Duncan's at a bar and somebody's like, yeah, Karl Malone was better than Tim Duncan.
He's over here, he's like, I don't care, I won five titles.
He doesn't.
He doesn't.
Karl Malone can have this one.
I kicked his ass all the time. He's like, I don't care. I won five pedals. He doesn't. He doesn't. He probably can have this one.
I kicked his ass all the time.
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Shay, where do you stand on X-Player podcasts? Have we hit peak crazy yet? Or are there two years left to go? Select markets. What? How far do we go with this? I think Jeff Teague is the perfect podcaster.
He's as good as...
I like that one. I'll defend him.
He's as good as he gets.
Yeah.
He's great.
Yeah, we're at the exact right level now.
One more and it all falls apart.
That don't go anymore.
What do you think, Sean?
I hope Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart pod forever.
I'm really enjoying that show.
That's a good pod.
It's them just shitting on each other for 45 minutes.
Yeah.
Being like, you're the biggest
loser.
What are you going to do if Leon Rose trades Josh Hart like and that podcast
gets broken up, hire an assassin to kill
not sure. I don't listen to a lot of those shows. If I'm being honest, but I
do respect that they are currently working very hard to eliminate
shows like this. They're like, we have been observing your strategy of hot
takery and we can do better. We just like we can dunk better than you. We can
also hot take better than you. And that's kind of what each new show that comes
along knows it goes needs to go to a higher level. So do you listen to that next podcast? Sometimes, yeah.
You're like, these are my guys?
I have an emotional relationship with these men who don't know who I am.
Chris, does Embiid have a podcast that he does once a month?
Does Embiid have a podcast? No.
Just like once a month he does it?
Paul George, did you guys know that I found this stat?
Apparently he's recorded 19 podcast episodes as a member of the Sixers Paul George, did you guys know that I found this stat?
Apparently he's recorded 19 podcast episodes as a member of the Sixers and scored two points in his last game as a member of the Sixers before the All-Star break.
It's kind of a bummer. Yeah.
Turns out that's why he was available. Do you want to walk us through where... Where I'm at? Yeah.
Where you at?
It's pretty dark, you know?
It's like...
I kind of do, man.
That's why I'm wearing this fucking thunder hat.
You know, like, it's just pretty brutal.
Like, I think Maxie is the thing that's made me most sad
because he's obviously so bummed out by this
that, like, even his effervescence is dimming.
The MP thing is, I don't know, man.
I don't know, I don't think he's ever gonna be
what we thought he was gonna be.
I remember the 2019 Celtics,
the year was the year after the...
Just to make it about you,
we can't talk about you for a minute.
No, when you're this...
No.
No, when you know something's wrong with a season,
and you're like, maybe this will be the game,
and it turns around, and then it doesn't,
and then by December, January, you're just kind of like,
oh, this is going to be one of the...
It's like every Jets season for Sean.
But it's just like...
I'm sorry, that was a call for it. I apologize.
We were talking about the Sixers.
Well, but where you know it's not going to come back.
But then you're stuck with the season. Come back from what with the Sixers. Well, but where you know it's not gonna come back. Then you're stuck with the Seaside.
Come back from what with the Jets?
I would like to know what's the like furthest
away from basketball.
Somebody has said something to you and then you went.
It reminded me of the 2019 Celtics.
Yeah, let me think.
So we go politics.
It could be like all
family, my father, my father passed away. Bill, you know the two thousand and eight. So we thought Gordon Hayward was going to pass away that
you know what
the eventually Brad Stevens, yeah, not Iran Contra, you know, without a
fair. Well, at that time we know Larry Bird was going with hi, hi, six, nine and seven.
Were you sad to see Aaron Rogers go sad to see Aaron Rogers go yeah?
No,
no, I honestly hope he goes to hell
I know I honestly hope he goes to hell like
these favorite athlete ever. That's just what legacy media wants you to believe
man. Yeah, my favorite thing ever. No one here cares about the new jets regime, so
I'm sorry, but the story that they were like you can come back if you don't go on McAfee and he was like no dice tells you everything you need to know about
that guy.
I liked when they did the Hard Knocks series and you were like wow Aaron Rodgers is in
this and then they got to one episode and he talked about aliens for two minutes.
Yeah.
And you're like oh that's why he did it because they told him he could do this.
Who we were talking about this earlier, who is the number one
celebrity or athlete that's attached to Austin where Austin goes?
Is it Glenn Powell or McConaughey?
All right.
So it's Powell and McConaughey in the finals, right?
Do those guys have beef?
Do those guys have a little tension?
We picking that up?
They're buds.
All right.
They're buds.
Okay.
Thank you Lance for coming tonight.
Yeah.
I'll tell you that reminded me of the 2019 suckers.
All right.
So let's go.
I'll give you McConaughey and Powell.
So who says McConaughey?
Who says Glenn Powell?
All right, McConaughey, Jesus.
Dundee.
Wow.
They did not like Mr. Sch...
McConaughey's really figured it out.
Yeah.
Because he goes to all that, he goes to a lot of the Texas games too.
He's like, like an assistant coach now, yeah.
CR, scale of one to 20,
how genuine is Bradley Cooper's Eagles fandom,
would you say?
One to 20, I'll give you.
I'm going to go 19,
just because it feels super recent.
Like, I'm sure it's genuine,
but like, I don't recall him being a part of the Eagles before 2017.
She's more recent. She was like on a late night show talking about loving the Giants like five years ago.
So it's cool. Like you can love who you want to love, but like she just switched around on the end of the scene.
Can I love the Eagles? Like is that on the board for me?
Sure.
Okay, cool.
Water's warm.
Shay, who's your favorite celebrity
attached to a team celebrity?
Let's go with...
Let's go with...
Does San Antonio have one?
Danny Trejo.
Yeah.
They play like during Spurs games
a Danny Trejo clip of him being like,
hey, let's fucking go.
Do they really? Yeah.
That's like a real thing.
That's a really good one.
I like that one.
How about you, Sean?
That'd be great.
Before every game, he's like, kneel.
Please.
Come on.
What about you, Sean?
Favorite celebrity fan of one of my teams?
Of a tie to a team, any team.
The one you feel is the most genuine. I mean, Jack in the Lakers is the realest shit ever.
Not Larry David in the Jets?
No, he abandoned the Jets.
Larry David quit the Jets.
Yeah, he quit the Jets.
Once again, smartest guy of all time.
A couple more quickies.
If speaking of Austin, if Austin tried to steal the Spurs from San Antonio,
would it cause the Civil War in Texas?
There would be two million Mexicans
outside of the Moody Center.
Mad as hell.
So it's never happening?
Never happening.
Where is this arena they're playing tomorrow?
It's a nice one, right?
Yeah, who knows, it doesn't matter. Look at Shae, No I'm kidding. I like Austin a lot. It's one of the 10 best cities in Texas.
Sean who's winning best picture at the Oscars? I had that on my list
a Nora,
which yeah nor again yeah hell yeah. Thank you um because it did the DGA PGA
WGA whatever the hell that triple crown yeah you nailed it brother
the in August we were texting about the no in September. We were texting about
the Oscars
and I was like I think it's an aura because there's like nothing else going
on and you're like no chance. Well, there's a lot of sex in that movie.
What did you do about old people that vote for the Oscar? Yeah. Did you like
those scenes?
I thought they were very well done. Yeah, very tasteful. Very tasteful. Very tasteful.
I thought for the character it made a lot of sense.
It did. It did. Really strong writing.
So the last movie that did those three but then didn't win Best Picture was Crash.
It was Crash, yeah. Well, Brokeback Mountain won those three awards in 2005.
Oh yeah, Brokeback Mountain won the three and then Crash won on Oscar night, which is the first time I gouged my eyes out
and then had reconstructive surgery.
So, Inora, what if it's not Inora who is?
Bill, how many times have you seen
the brutalists in theaters?
So,
three and a half hours is a long time.
Yeah.
What was the name of the Netflix true crime doc
you were telling us about
that. How long was that?
Gabby Petito.
So Netflix has this new documentary.
This girl was a vlogger and, and just a lot of vlogging footage and,
and I got sucked in three episodes. Guess what? She didn't make it.
Was it rough? Was it roughly three and a half hours?
It was probably longer than that.
It was like two and a half.
So Brutalist is too long, but a nine hour Celtics documentary is just right.
Could have been longer.
Yeah.
These true crime things, I love when the guys, the killers make the same mistake
every time, like they...
This guy in the new one, once somebody is dead, they take the phone and they send text back and forth, like the police aren't going to figure that out.
People are so stupid.
Anyway.
Wait, what were we talking about?
I actually do want to keep teasing this out of how you'd fix murder.
Oh, Brutalist.
No.
So, I watched a combined 14 minutes of Wicked, Amelia Perez, and the Brutalist.
They send me all the screeners.
Sometimes I'm like, I don't know if I'm going to watch this.
I'll watch three minutes.
I'm like, I'm out.
And then other ones I'll keep going.
I don't have time to watch 50 Oscar screeners.
There's terrible basketball to watch. I'll keep going.
My wife liked it, I forgot to tell you. Did she?
Yeah.
Did you like a change?
Did you see the Brutalist?
No.
I did the same thing you did.
I saw the runtime and I was like, I don't want to.
It's intimidating.
It's like 40 minutes longer than John Wick 4.
Yeah, that's 40.
That's a lot of time.
And nobody's riding a horse with a sword.
You wouldn't know.
I'm out.
I'm out.
That's going to be in The Brutalist 2.
Yeah.
I'll watch that one.
I'm excited about that.
More movies should have that.
I would have you give your Oscar bets to everybody,
but they can't bet here in Texas.
What the hell, Texas?
Boo!
Boo!
Boo!
There's some fandual people here, they love this.
Best actor?
Chalamet?
No.
No. No. No actor? Chalamet?
No.
No?
No.
Really?
What happened?
He has not won a single precursor.
So if he wins, it's gonna be really surprising.
So who's it gonna be?
He's the People's Champ though.
People love this kid.
You know what?
Better.
Better for the career if he doesn't win.
I agree.
It builds up, it gets a Leo thing going it I think part of his campaign for this whole movie where he's been doing
Non-traditional media like Nard war and doing photo ops with Carl Anthony towns, which I fully support
Has been so that he maintains his cool without having to seem like he's glad handing every Academy member
I like it Adrian Brody's gonna win though
who's winning best actress?
Two weeks ago I would have said Demi Moore,
but now it feels like Mikey Madison.
She won it BAFTA over the weekend.
She has to win.
I don't know.
It feels like we'll find out on Sunday at the SAG Awards.
That's when we'll figure it out.
If Demi Moore didn't win for about last night,
she's never winning.
That's true.
Yeah.
So good in that movie.
You thought for strip tease.
Yeah, I did.
It's an underappreciated classic. Speaking of movies, That's true. Yeah. So good in that movie. You thought for strip tease. Yeah, I did.
It's an underappreciated classic.
Speaking of movies, Shay.
Yep.
Are we scared about Heat 2?
I'm scared about it.
It's been a lot of conversations in our circles.
This is, sequels are tough, man.
It's almost better off not happening than having one and then...
We were just talking about Den of Thieves 2.
We were talking about a bunch of 2s recently. Yeah. Yeah, 2s are tough. happening, then having one, and then...
sucks. I can watch it and then go that's fucking. We should jump straight to
jump straight to heat three just skip to skip to you are idea problems, and then
it's just like just finish the trilogy without making to what's the most
disappointed ever been in a sequel shot.
I mean Batman forever sucked. That was tough. You know we came off to Burton
movies yeah like I'm mixing it up shoe Mocker yeah he's interesting lost boys. I like that guy the client was big fan of
that film
that in forever is terrible. That was if that was tough. I mean Godfather three
is a famous one, but we've come all the way back around international. Oh my
God, international
that guy is about to be right in the frame. If with the mix, what's your most
disappointing sequel? I got made bit of recency bias,
but Gladiator 2 is a real power.
It had all the guys in it.
It had all my guys.
And it just wasn't as good.
Isn't Ridley Scott like 88?
He's 84.
Yeah, my card was up.
Yeah.
What about you, Shay?
I think I'm gonna go with Gladiator 2 also.
Really?
The first Gladiator is a perfect movie.
And you just, I was like, all it needs to be is like 70% of that.
And it wasn't 70% of that.
I have another 48 hours.
Yeah.
Eddie was like 20 pounds overweight for some reason.
I didn't understand why Jack Hates, why he was in jail for five more years
and then they just fought the whole time.
But then at the end, Keough ends up being the Iceman.
It sucks.
And it's like, what the hell?
Because then it ruins how you watch the first movie.
Or it's like, this guy was the Iceman the whole time.
And it just like, it was like a Jedi mind trick.
It really bothered me.
None of you guys have even seen it.
It ruined, I don't like when it ruins the movie before it
with what they do with the sequel.
When they go retroactively backwards
and it fucks up like what was in your head already.
Really annoyed me.
You think that could happen to Heat 2?
That's what I don't want.
I don't want my brain chemistry to get, I mean, we've seen Heat 430 times. would happen to heat too?
You were early. It was like 2018.
It had been around for a while.
You were the first player in the WNBA.
And now we're at the point with Caitlin Clark.
Would you say she's the biggest under 30 basketball star
we have or would you go with somebody else?
Like on the planet?
Yeah.
I think, I mean it's her, it's Wimby,
and maybe Anthony Edwards in that conversation.
But Angel Reese is coming up quick.
Like, she's playing a smart game.
She's playing the personality game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's very charming, and she knows how to turn it on.
But yeah, Caitlin just has this gravity about her
that I think puts her right now
a little bit above everybody else.
It's unreal.
What do you think?
It pains me to say this, because I don't know that he's the most charismatic
person in the world, but
you know Jason Tatum is like really holy shit, Amos and successful
and I'm not kissing up to you because are you trying to raise? I follow
Aaron Rodgers to hell. Honestly, I don't I don't want anything good for him,
but
I I like the premise of the question, but you know, first of all, Jason's hit him.
He's only like 21.
He's got that going for him.
26.
Is it actually Ja?
I don't know.
John doesn't play.
I mean, John plays.
He just misses games.
Love them.
Like, like, like younger generations love.
Josh is, she's not going to like this, but he's going to respect it.
Tatum's got Tim Duncan at us.
He does, yeah.
When you watched him on the starting five doc,
that was my favorite part of the doc, is like you didn't learn.
Are we supposed to be talking about Caitlin Clark?
Anything about him.
We're going to circle back.
You didn't learn anything about him.
And I said, I miss that.
I miss that in basketball players when all I know about them
is what they do on the basketball court, and that's it.
He gives you that.
But that's why he's not more popular than Caitlin Clark.
Like what's the Jason Tatum like thing
or the commercial or what?
Like he doesn't have that magnetism that she has.
Right.
You know?
Yeah, sure.
I care about insurance because of Caitlin Clark.
She was like in an insurance commercial
and I was like, I should get renter's insurance I think.
Luka? She was like in an insurance commercial, and I was like, I should get renter's insurance, I think. I think.
I think.
Luca?
I just don't understand that when they say Tatum's boring,
I don't really know what that means
in the context of the NBA now.
It means that they're frustrated.
It means he's not tweeting enough?
Is he not doing enough Instagram videos?
What's boring?
Yeah, we were talking about Kevin Durant earlier.
He's the only player who has improved his image
because of social media or making himself available.
He's the only guy who knows how to do it.
Everybody else is bad at it.
Well, it comes down to authenticity, right?
Yeah.
So KD, whether you like him, don't like him,
can bitch about the warrior's decision, whatever.
He really seems like who he is. He's the most authentic of all these guys. can bitch about the Warriors decision, whatever.
He really seems like who he is.
Like he's the most authentic of all these guys.
Tatum's pretty authentic. He's just, you know,
plays basketball, works out, loves his son. Is Caitlin Clark the most popular basketball player under 30? I mean, she's definitely like appointment television, right?
Like if she's going off, people are going to be like,
we got to turn this on, you got to turn this on.
How many basketball players?
What was that?
Brawny.
Brawny?
Yeah, definitely.
Those are those G League games?
Me and all the fellas?
Is this watching some G League?
Yeah.
Brawny is the best thing that's ever happened
to go in a Laker game, because if it's a blowout, everyone stays for Bronte.
You could just leave and get your car.
It's like, this is great.
Get out of here.
Do you think it would have been funny if Lebron had backed out
of the All-Star game and inserted Bronte in his place?
That would have been cool.
He should just start doing stuff.
I mean, would you have been surprised?
Adam Solver would be like, what can I do?
I don't have nothing, no power here.
Before we get to the big thing we're doing, who's winning the finals?
Give us a pick.
Give us a finals pick, a matchup and a winner.
I still think Boston wins.
I don't see anybody that's beating them, but as they're going to beat okay, see and five,
sadly, what do you got shot? Yeah, I think it's Boston. It is really painful.
Shut up.
It's really painful knowing having a like rooting for a great team and knowing
that they're what I want them to be, but knowing that they're still just like one inch below a couple of other teams.
That's painful. You've been there before. You've never been there.
I just want to say, well, I'm fine.
What do you have? CR the maps? Yeah,
maps and six over Boston. Derek Lively makes a great comeback. No, I think
it's the thunder. I think the Thunder are like, historically good.
Thunder over Celtics.
Did you, what's your pick, Bill?
I mean, I'm sticking with Celtics OKC
because it was the preseason.
I think Cleveland's really good.
I actually think that they've somehow become underrated
and undervalued.
The Hunter trade was great.
They're going to have home court every round
for the first three
How you feeling about second row Joe these days?
First of all, we call him coach Joe. Yeah, sorry. I didn't mean to disrespect him I don't know where I got that my dad's my dad's getting a little gamey with him lately
hasn't really liked some of the subs he's come home complaining a couple times, but
He's fine. It's a hunger thing with them.
We just saw with the Eagles and the Chiefs,
we always forget the hunger piece with sports,
where the Chiefs, they're complaining,
it's like, oh, the Super Bowl, we do this every year,
and the Eagles are like, I'll fucking kill five small children
to win this one game, you know?
And at some point, the hunger piece is a real thing,
and you're playing like Cleveland or okay
See these teams that have never been there and you won last year. It's that little extra something. That's the part that worries me
I think all right. It's time
So you guys don't know what we're about to do
The the lamest the most overused gimmick at a live show is to do a draft of something. And we're gonna do that anyway.
But we have a twist.
We are going to draft sports movie characters who play basketball, and we're going to make
a team out of them.
And the catch is going to be for the two assistant coaches, the GM and the owner,
are going to be from heist movies.
And we're gonna build our team.
And I swear this is all gonna make sense.
And we're gonna pick-
We're gonna be here for like two and a half hours,
by the way.
No, it's, we're picking a starting five, a six man,
a bench player who has to be a real bench player.
It can't just be like a starter who's coming up the bench. We're gonna be a real bench player. It can't just be like a starter just coming out the bench.
We're going to pick a basketball movie coach.
So it's like Coach Carter, those type of things.
And then two assistants from a heist movie.
A GM from a heist movie and an owner from a heist movie.
So much stuff.
This is going to be very long.
It's not going to be that long.
Shay, you have the first picks since you drove an hour to come here. All right. Wait, I have notes. Let me get my notes.
We flew like four hours. Why does he have to go to the road?
Shay drove.
All right, I got the first pick. Let me pick...
I'm gonna pick this guy because automatically,
my team is gonna be better than everybody else's
if I have this character.
And I don't think he's on anybody else's list anyway,
but I'm gonna get him.
I'm gonna get him.
I'm gonna pick Elliot Richards from the movie Bedazzled.
Okay, everybody familiar with Elliot Richards?
That's great.
In Bedazzled, Brendan Fraser, Elizabeth Hurley,
she plays the devil, he plays a guy who's asking for wishes.
At one point, he wishes to be an NBA player,
and she's like, poof, you're an NBA player.
The hook, every wish he makes, he gets,
there's like a bad part, with an NBA player,
he has a really small penis.
So then he's like, nevermind, I don't wanna do this anymore.
But he's an NBA player for one game,
and in the game he plays, he has 104 points,
45 rebounds, 32 assists, 37 steals, 28 blocks.
He's 7'6", and he shoots 100% from three.
Wow.
You can't... This is Shaq and Steph Curry mushed together.
Nice.
Foundational piece.
So you're taking him as a center.
I'm taking him as a center.
Yeah, big men are at a premium
in a fictional basketball player draft.
Stretch five, though.
But not downstairs.
Yeah.
I...
I...
I...
I...
By the way, I forgot to say three rules for this.
No cartoon characters, space jams out.
No...
No...
No...
See, a lot of Lola Bunny fans.
How dare you groan at our dumb rules that we made up five minutes ago.
No NBA players as themselves...
I thought we each get one.
...except with one exception.
If you want. But it can't just be like, I take whoever...
Jason White Chocolate Williams,
because he was an Eddie playing Jason White Chocolate Williams.
And then...
Well, you can, but that's just the only one you can take.
Right.
Right, okay.
And that's it.
And nobody from Celtic Pride because that movie sucked.
But not allowed to do that.
And we'll go stank fashion.
Sean, you're up.
Shoot.
I didn't have Brendan Fraser's character from Bedazzled on my board.
Is he a fire scout?
I knew you wouldn't.
It's a tough one.
Well the first name I wrote down is Jesus Shuttlesworth from He Got Game, which has
the added benefit of being a great movie.
And you know, honestly, there are not a lot of great basketball movies, which you realize
when you're going through this, a lot of great basketball characters, but Jesus was loosely modeled on a
Lebron ask figure, somebody who could come as they step on
Marbury could save could save the game. Yeah, memorably
played by Ray Allen in the movie and he had it all and he
had incredible range handle good defender, good team guys,
teammates loved him. He had a lot of fun at big
state on his trip there.
So he seems like an obvious centerpiece of my team. Yeah, good pick. So Jesus,
you know, it's really we did. He got game. I can't remember when for
rewatchables. I just Ray Allen was just such a one on one with his basketball
style. So like I just miss, I wish there such a one-on-one
with his basketball style.
I wish there was somebody like him now, but it's even fun to watch him in that movie.
CR, you're up.
I'll take Neon Bordeaux from Blue Chips as my center. 520 on the SATs and misspelled his own name, but culturally biased.
I think once we get him into our program
and we just get let our culture loose on him,
it'll work and I get my big man.
So I'm really excited.
So I thought he was going to be the first pick.
Me too.
Because he's...
But then I didn't know Shay was going to pick first.
I could have told you he wouldn't.
Yeah.
He's dominant in blue chips.
It's Young Shack.
Skinny Shack.
How do we feel about blue chips?
Pro blue chips. Great movie.
It's one of those movies that I was disappointed by for like 15 years.
And then around 2009, I was like, this movie's fucking awesome.
It's the best basketball we've ever seen in a movie.
Because they just set the camera down here and just followed
And they had all the best guys from nine pretty hardly. I just running like real games
I forgot that patino coaches Western, Texas. Yeah, yeah
All right, I guess I'm up with two picks
so
There's a lot of guys left on the board that I like. And I'm taking an owner pick out of the gate.
Wow.
I'm sorry, a GM pick.
I'm taking Neil McCauley from Heat.
Okay.
I have to have him.
He's got to be on my team.
Why you so unsure what I do, lady?
I really feel like, you know, he's methodical.
Little Sam Prestige-ish. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you call Neil McCauley and you're like, uh, you know, he's methodical little Sam Prestige. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you call
Neil McCauley and you're like, we, we need Paul George because that's how we're going
to get quiet Leonard. Neil McCauley would hold out for SGA and the six first rounders.
But what is his version of going back for Wayne grow? It's a good question. Panic trading
chat. You know, you don't want to do that. But that's why I'm here, because that's where you talk Neil out of like,
don't know, dude, we won the Paul George trade.
Don't go after Wainwright.
If Blinger calls Neil McCauley for Luca, does he go,
there's a dead man on the other end of this phone?
So the guy that you want running your team...
My GM.
...is, his whole team dies.
Except for one who's holedis his whole team dies. Yeah.
Except for one who's holed up somewhere.
He dies.
Yeah.
And the only rule that he ever says he has immediately breaks the first time it comes
into play.
That's...
I was the guy running your team.
I was really impressed with some of his heists.
Put in the stuff on the, you know, what are those things called?
The things that blink the tires?
Yeah, not only the ambulance, but then putting that across
the way they, I don't know, I just like how it is.
Got the job, all right.
All right, my other pick.
So, I mean this is a layup, but Fish That Saves Pittsburgh,
Julie Serving plays Moses Guthrie.
And it's right, he still has his knees,
it's like right after the ABA-NBA merger,
and he's just crushing it in real life.
He's in the movie, there's a playground scene
where he takes a girl on a date,
and then starts dunking for her with slow motion,
with like romantic music.
That's the absolute best. And it just lights out, tour de force. starts dunking for her with slow motion, with like romantic music.
And it just lights out.
Tour de force.
Women love that by the way.
Yeah.
They love it.
Well, it started 50 years of people doing that on dates.
Anyway, he's on my team too.
So there you go.
Shay, is that, no, Chris you're up.
Oh, we're going to go around.
Yeah, we're going back.
We're sneak drafting.
Okay.
I think I'll take Billy Hoyle from White Man Can't Jump. I like it.
I like it.
It's a little bit of a debate as to whether Billy or Sidney
are who's better.
I know that they played right into my hands.
But I think Billy just has that sense of fashion that flair that big game
appetite. I love it.
I would say that so go ahead,
so it was it's because he's white yeah, that's why
Billy Hoyle great character, very inspiring to a young me, but also a
complete fiction. The idea of that guy balling out
on the Venice courts, absolute nonsense. Sydney Dean would have broken his
ankles a hundred times out of a hundred. I've seen videos of the professor on
that same court doing that same stuff. Just yeah, that was AI. We were watching
um, what he was a witty as as Billy Hoyle, very Austin Reeves ish. Yeah,
watch us the reeds now that kind of herky jerky cross. And if he hadn't had Woody as Billy Hoyle, very Austin Reeves-ish. We watch Austin Reeves now.
That kind of herky-jerky cross-over.
And if he hadn't had the distraction of Rosie Perez being on Jeopardy,
who knows what he could have achieved, you know?
Or just the distraction of Rosie Perez in general.
What about the Sanuki brothers? Right? That was kind of a cue for...
CR, do you see Neon Boudou and Billy Hoyle running a lot of pick and roll or high school stuff?
Well, we have to see how my back court fills out bill, but thank you for
asking. Okay,
Sean, what he got? I'll just take Sydney Dean so nobody else can take him. We
can close out white man can't jump right here unless you want to take some of
the guys there. I have people, nobody's picking. I
just think Sydney Dean and Jesus in my back court. We've got a lot of speed,
power, we're gonna be really hard to defend at the rim. We've got range. I'm
feeling good about my back court so far. Also, I you know I had my i Neil just
to make you mad, but you jumped up, jumped the line, so
I'm gonna make the crowd mad.
I didn't think was this nice was good at basketball.
I never bought the high dribble
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I feel like Yannis didn't pick up a basketball till he was like 15.
Not fair.
Kind of a similar situation.
Quick study.
All right.
Shay, you have two picks.
I'm on the edge of my seat.
I have two picks.
All right.
You don't know how we're going to defend that backcourt.
I'm going to tell you how we're going to defend that backcourt.
Number one, we still have Elia Richards who's seven foot six.
But give me Wood Harris from above the rim.
Oh my god, you're going with Wood first?
I want Wood Harris because I want a guy who,
if he's gonna lose, he's fucking shooting up a court.
This is a man who takes winning and losing very seriously.
That's how we defend.
They go like, we can't beat...
No, it's Wayne Martin.
Let's lose this game,
because he's got a fucking Uzi in his Adidas bag.
And I don't want to deal with that.
So you have Wood as a forward?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Small forward.
Okay.
Yeah.
And what do you have for your other pick?
I need a point guard, and I need a person who can get the ball around.
I need a proven champion.
I need somebody with a little bit of blood lust.
Give me Monica Wright from Love and Basketball.
That's what I need.
I was rewatching it recently.
That's a good basketball movie.
It is.
Right?
But there's a part in it early on
where the first time we meet her,
she's the little girl version of her,
and she walks up to the boys, they're all playing,
it's three boys, and she's like,
hey, can I play?
She's got a hat on, and they're like, oh yeah, sure,
and she takes the hat off. Oh my god, it's a girl,
whatever, becomes the whole thing.
They're like talking shit about her,
and then immediately, immediately,
she fucking starts putting them in the blender.
Just bucket after bucket after bucket,
and then she's going up for one bucket,
Quincy has gotten fed up, he shoves her in the back,
she falls down, her face drags on the floor,
she picks it up, it's covered in blood,
and then we cut to her in the house,
cleaning it, and she's fucking smiling. I'm like picks it up, it's covered in blood. And then we cut to her in the house,
cleaning it, and she's fucking smiling.
And I'm like, hell yeah, that's a hooper.
That's the only person who can play point guard
on a team with a guy with an Uzi in his Adidas bag.
That's who I need.
I'm feeling real good about my team right now.
Well, you went for toughness.
Wood Harris, Bondi McCall, and a seven foot six
guy who played one game.
Who do you have, Sean?
I'll also be selecting a stretch five,
another incredible athlete with a gift we've not seen before.
I'll be taking Sandy Lyle from Along Came Polly
as portrayed by Philip Seymour Hoffman.
All right.
I'm putting him in your bench spot.
Okay.
Well, I don't know what you mean by that because raindrop
I had him on my board.
What do you have CR?
Didn't your turn?
No, it's it.
I picked no you're you're doing to now.
All right.
It's business. He hasn't No, you're, you're doing two now. All right. Uh, it's business.
He hasn't picked in a while, right?
Did I screw this up?
Yeah.
You went this way.
Then we went that way.
You picked two.
Then you went back to me.
Then we went this way.
Then you went.
This is going great.
It's your turn.
It's your turn.
No, it's. This is going to your turn. It's your turn.
No, it's
fantasy,
fantasy's third pick was what
he just make a third. I just took Sandy Lyle. Yeah. Yeah. So you have three.
Yeah, we're doing this correctly. Okay, go and then bill goes to and then you go back my turn my yeah
I cut this out of the pod. I can't
cut this. No, you go and then I go I'll turn the fucking tick tock camera on
I'm taking Jimmy Chitwood from Hoosiers
another white guy
great thing. It works for the Lakers.
It works for Team Chris.
It's fine.
Clutch just absolutely nails.
He's mostly been playing on farmland for most of his life.
So I feel like when we get him
into a modern sports science program,
who knows what he could do?
It's a great pick.
He did quit on his team. And came back. He did come back. All right? It's a great pick. He did quit on his team and came back. He did come back
All right, that's a good pick. He was on my board. Yeah, no shit. He was on your board
Now this is I'm going with guys who were awesome in real life when they were making the movie
Which brings me to hustler from fast break a movie that none of you have ever seen
fast break movie that came out in 1979.
Bernard King plays Hustler, who's like a pool guy who ended up not going to college, but
he was an All-American.
And if you watch Fast Break, it's just Bernard King just being amazing.
So I'm putting him with Dr. J. And I'm kicking ass with those two guys.
Plus, I have a team of Moses Guthrie, Hussler,
and Neil McCauley as my GM.
I'm feeling great.
So there's two.
And then I'm so excited. This guy's on the board.
Anita Center is a little undersized.
And Teen Wolf...
You can't make him your center? Are you serious?
I'm not taking Teen Wolf.
Oh, okay.
No, I'm taking Big Body.
If you've watched Teen Wolf enough, number 45, white guy.
Teen Wolf, you know, he turned into a wolf
than he did in the last game.
He got all the praise.
The school rallied around him.
They're selling merch.
Teen Wolf, are we sure he's good?
No, well, he was great.
Number 45 is just
fucking carrying them. You watch that movie. He's protecting the rim. He's
rebounding. He's doing everything. It's like heroic to watch. I don't know what
his name was that I don't even know if he was in the credits, but if you watch
he's like 15, 12 and five in the final game. This is an iconic draft from you. So I'm going number 45
on Teen Wolf as my fourth pick.
Chris, you're up.
I'm up again?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'll take Shep from above the rim.
Our advanced analytics team loves this.
40 points in two minutes. He's 14 for from Above the Rim. Our advanced analytics team loves this. 40 points in two minutes.
Yeah.
He's 14 for 14 from the field.
Just like bombing away from three way before 3 and D
was a thing.
So more reball.
And corduroy pants.
I know, he was still in his work clothes.
Imagine if he was wearing shorts.
This guy's will.
You know, now if they did Above the Rim now,
those would be all threes.
Yeah.
They were like, there was a couple of threes in there, though.
Wasn't there?
He had ten threes in that game.
Ten for ten.
I thought he was just taking like 17 footers.
No, no, no. Go back and watch the tape, man.
Come on.
We studied it.
Get on second spectrum.
He's using money from the top of the key.
So I have Shep from Above the Rim.
I like that. That's a really good pick.
And he goes in with your team of quitters.
Quit
ship quit.
Neon tried to quit Billy.
Who tried to quit his relationship.
You're up Sean.
I'm going to take some a more recent vintage of player and the most recent
great basketball movie hustle starring Adam Sandler.
Oh, I like
this and I'll take Bo Cruz, I portrayed by one show her and Gomez. He's on the
board great pick one show need a big man obviously a bit of an unknown coming
overseas really needed a strong voice and advocate for his game and frankly we
need his size on our squad, his size unselfish. Yes, I thought you were going
to go Edwards there.
Shit, Shay has two picks.
I got two.
Jimmy Chitwood, great pick, very clutch.
There's only been one player ever in fictional basketball who was more clutch than Jimmy.
And that's Snake Plissken from Escape from LA.
He's in the full court torture chamber of death.
He's got to hit five shots before the 10-second clock
goes...whatever.
It ends with him throwing a full court shot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Throwing a full court shot.
The first...let me explain what happens.
No, start at the beginning of escape.
Yeah.
They have a basketball court with guys with guns all are all around it. They've captured snake
They have him in the basketball court the guy in charge some whatever bad guy tells him hey, you got to score 10 points
I'm gonna put 10 seconds on the shot clock you get the ball at half court
every time you score the clock reset itself, and if you don't score 10 points before
The clock reset itself, or if you miss a shot, we're gonna shoot you and you're gonna die
or 10 points before the clock resets itself, or if you miss a shot,
we're gonna shoot you and you're gonna die.
So the first one, he makes a layup, easy,
but he bobbles it a little bit
so he doesn't get all the way down.
So the second shot, he has to shoot like a 15 footer.
Now he's gotta shoot a three pointer.
And then his last two shots,
he has to shoot from half court, fucking drills it,
and then full court with his life on the line.
With one eye.
He's got one eye. and he fucking drills it. It's as clutch as it gets.
What'd you think of Kurt Russell's shooting form? He's 100% from the field dude. I don't
care what it looks like. I don't care. Fucking Sean Marion that bitch up there. I don't care.
Let that thing go. He's so cool. He's such a cool guy too.
Such a cool guy. Great.
He came to my podcast once.
Great.
He came by himself. It was 10 in the morning.
He was wearing a leather jacket. It was 78 degrees outside.
And he stunk of cigarettes.
And I was just like, you're fucking awesome.
I'm sorry.
From you.
Sean, you're up.
Wait, I got one more.
Oh, you were up. Sorry.
I didn't do my last pick.
I need a wild card.
I need a guy who's gonna do something
nobody else is gonna do.
Give me David from Prometheus,
the android.
You fucking stole that from me, man.
Yeah, see?
There's one scene where he's playing basketball.
He's riding a bicycle
and shooting hook shots.
He's shooting three hook shots.
On the bike, drilling it. And you know what the best thing about David is you don't have to
worry about load man you don't have to worry about load management he's an
Android his head cut off comes back to work the next day. Unbeatable team yeah so is that a
forward or a guard that's a guard that's a guard. That's my shooting guard. Android guy? Okay.
That's my five.
Wow, it's quite a team you got.
Thank you.
Bedazzled guy, Wood Harris, Mono McCall, Android, and Snake Puskin on Shay's team right now.
Going 82 and 0.
Couple spots left.
What do you got, Sean? I've got an incredibly flexible roster, but I need
an owner, my man, a stress, somebody who I can really trust, somebody who's got
big ideas, who knows how to continue building out a front office, no necos in
this business, so I'm going Joe Cabot from Reservoir Dogs as a
you know, we know how he knows how to put a job together. We know he's just a
me owner. What's that is his owner? GM he's owner, okay, and he also loves his
Nepal baby son gave him a job in the front,
which is very owner behavior, and I'm just really excited about what we're
going to do together and also he loves colors so he's gonna be great with
uniforms nice job that's a really nice pick thank you what CR all right so I
have Shep I've got chipwood I've got oil and I've got neon it's a great team
for not enough balls for that team I think think I need a glue guy. I need a bench guy who's going to keep everybody loose. So I'm going to go with Jim Carroll from basketball diaries played by Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah. Okay. I love the idea of him getting Jimmy Chitwood into heroin.
Mix it up. Six man. Yeah. Deep dead deep bench, another white guy. I know
I'm sorry about that
by accident.
This is the I this is that everybody
right. I feel somehow emboldened
as a good laugh, Bill. I have two picks. This is a big part of the draft for me. I need a guard. Right now I
have number 45 from Team Wolf at center, Moses Guthrie, Hustler, and Neil McCauley is my
GM. And I'm going to take Butch McCrae from Blue Chips.
Keeping my philosophy of real life basketball players
playing characters, this is Penny Hardaway.
He had not ended up on Orlando yet.
And I just want to tell you,
because this was over 30 years ago,
them drafting Penny Hardaway to play with Shaq,
but they were both in a movie together,
might have been the single coolest thing in 1993. Like that hit all my interest points at the same time. Shaq but they were both in a movie together.
Might have been the single coolest thing in 1993.
Anyway, so we'll take him and then I can't believe he's still on the board.
I think I'm going to use him as my bench guy.
Fletch during the dream sequence. Yeah. Fletch with the Afro.
You know, it's not a long scene, but you can see there's a lot going on there.
He's just a force.
The other team didn't know what was happening.
So Fletch with the Afro is my bench guy.
What do you got, CR?
I'll take Tupac from above the rim as my coach.
Oh, Birdie. Birdie. I'll take to pack from above the rim as my coach. Oh birdie yeah erdy
interesting motivational techniques communication style and I just think
that this is a team of guys like you've mentioned quitters and perhaps to pock
will motivate them to do otherwise little razor blade yeah I balance out all that white.
So I have to is I don't know. Now Sean's now Sean's got yeah
lot of guys left.
Yeah, I'm going to take I'm going to I'm going to slide
shuttles worth to the three okay, and I'm going to take Uncle
Drew in the cinematic masterpiece,
so I carry a ring, which is the film I've not seen,
but I have seen that commercial and that old man can ball out
so that he'll be bringing it up for us. Great, so you're a little smaller. Yeah,
trying to counter all that all the. Shay, you got two.
I got two for my sixth man in my deep bench.
Sixth man? Not a sixth man at all.
He's a sixth dog. Give me air, bud.
A champion.
The greatest winner in sports movie history.
Championship in basketball, he plays volleyball,
championship in volleyball.
He plays soccer, championship in soccer.
Baseball?
Fucking played baseball, he won a championship.
That kid's a winner.
Give me your air butt.
It's a movie that only makes sense when you have a kid.
Yeah.
Because it came out, I was like, this is the fucking stupidest thing ever.
And then you have like a five-year-old and they're like,
what is this? It's like Gone With The Wind.
The five-year-old.
So this is the greatest cinematic achievement anyone's made.
A dog scoring baskets.
Gone With The Wind is a weirdly popular movie in my locker room, actually.
Yeah, right.
Billy and Chip, which is like, I love this part.
For my deep bend... Wait, are we allowed to pick TV as well, or is it only movies?
No movies. Don't try to cheat.
Okay, I was...
You already took the bedazzled guy.
You have a dog on your team for Christ's sake.
I was going to grab Jim from the office because he was a fucking monster.
But if I can't have him, then I need a deep bench person.
Give me Spaceman from Sunset Park.
Does anybody remember?
Yeah.
Young Terrence Howard.
Yeah, Terrence Howard.
Right?
Rhea Perlman's coaching this inner city team.
They're getting beat real bad in a game.
She's yelling at him at halftime.
And he plays the crazy kid on the team that nobody talks to.
And she's screaming at him.
And she's like, is there anybody in here who's not afraid to play this other team?
And then they all look at him and they just go, no, no, no, no, no.
And then it cuts to him diving after loose balls
and taking charges and crashing into people and smiling.
And it's just great. It's a great moment.
I need a guy coming off the bench running into people.
Give me space, man.
I just want to say we've known each other a long time
and you had seven player spots.
You not taking Timo Cruz from Coach Carter
is the most shocking moment of my year so far.
I don't need him. I don't need him.
I just can't believe it.
He can't do anything better than the guys on my team.
Can't do it. I tell you what,
Coach Carter would not have sent bedazzled home.
I tell you that. I tell you that.
Sean, what do you got?
I tell you that I tell you that
Sean. What do you got
tough one got Uncle Drew like that down Jesus shows worth Sydney Dean.
We're closing out the blue chips, triumvirate. I need a I need to stretch
for so I'm going with Ricky Roe, the real pride of Indiana, who is the
horniest, greediest dickhead
in the history of basketball movies, but who has an incredible stroke as
portrayed by Matt Nover, and I'm referring of course to his bed game.
Yeah,
why are you staring right at me? You're saying
what I think Ricky Roe,
I think C R
and so we're going to be playing seven seconds or less Phoenix on style. That's
what I'm thinking. I like it
C R
would that go over well if I did that.
Let's think about it for a second. I my owner, I've been thinking about this a lot, from a heist film, I'm gonna go with
Kristo from the Town, played by Blake Lively.
I just think Blake Lively in the owner's box
is box office, that's just absolutely amazing content.
And do I get a second pick here or is it just one? No.
Okay.
I have no idea what the order is anymore.
No, you only pick once.
Okay, I'll take Blake Lively as my owner.
So you're taking Kristo from the town.
Yes.
Shine's mom.
Yes.
Shine's mom.
Oh.
And who's Shine's dad? I think it's supposed to be, the implication is it might be Doug, right?
But it's going to be Rosilla.
Yeah.
I can't believe somebody threw out the Ed Norton.
My scouts did look at it.
The two-hand dunk.
His real name was Derek Vineyard.
I'm not taking him.
Team chemistry was too risky.
Yeah.
Just didn't seem like a great move.
When I got to Austin, I went to Kirk's house.
I was hanging out with Kirk, and he was trying to convince me to take Derek.
He was like the advanced analytics say you should take the not-
He was unbelievable.
He was like, it's worth the risk.
It's worth the risk.
I don't think it is.
It's worth the risk. That's what the risk. I don't think it is. It's worth the risk.
That's what guys were saying in Eco-Harrison.
It's worth the risk.
Kirk's showing you his shot chart.
His shots are in the shape of a swastika.
Yeah.
On his shot chart.
Oh.
I could not make that joke.
I'm taking as my owner, Danny Ocean.
There you go. Interesting.
There you go.
Handsome.
Good as job.
Yeah.
He'll represent us well. I think the fans will like him. Handsome.
He'll represent us well.
I think the fans will like him.
I have some questions about Neil reporting to Danny.
That's one of the reasons we have Danny. Yeah. Yeah. And then for one of my assistant coaches,
I'm just going to lock him down.
Also from Heat.
Michael Charetto, played by Tom Sizemore.
I just feel like you need him every once in a while for that.
For me, the action is the juice.
Like, you just need him in the room for the big moments.
So he's on there, too. I got him.
Sorry, CR.
That's okay.
Just one pick or two picks now?
You get five picks now.
Five picks.
You always have one pick.
All right. For my assistant coach, I'm going to do Rusty from Ocean's Eleven.
Just absolute, like, when the coach yells at you,
when Tupac's done yelling at them,
Rusty will just be like,
sorry, guys, don't worry about it.
Like, he's not really going to kill you after the game.
They're like...
So, yeah, I'll go with Rusty for assistant coach.
I like it. Sean?
For my coach, I'll be taking Jack Cunningham from the way back because we know that Jack knows how to how to fight the good
fight and inspire and I we need to find a way to beat seven foot six Brendan
Fraser somehow so I feel like draw up some interesting plays for our seven
seconds or less. How do you see Jack working with Sandy Lyle on your team?
Well, I see some potential issues, but I'm excited to see what jacket pull
together. I say you got to
all righty. I need a coach. Yeah, you sure do and I need a coach who can
handle a devil wish man, a guy with an Uzi, a point guard with blood lust, an android,
and a one-eyed mercenary.
Yeah.
And there's only one guy we've seen in any movie
who could, I think, handle that lineup.
That's Coach Finstock from Teen Wolf.
Yeah.
He's just sitting on a bench.
One of his players turns into a werewolf.
And he looks and he's like, fuck it.
Ball up top, baby.
That's right.
That's who I need coaching my team.
So give me him.
You know, just as an aside on coach, because he was on my board.
He was the one who had the three rules.
Always get 12 hours of sleep.
Never play cards with a guy who's got the first name as a city.
And never go near a lady who has a dagger on her body.
You stick with that and everything else is cream cheese.
That was Coach Vinsock.
An absolute legend.
He was on my board.
We're winning a championship. For my owner, I'm gonna go the sort of same strategy you
win. I need a guy who pulled off the perfect heist. Give me Dalton Russell from Inside Man.
That's what I need.
Nobody dies, he walks away a hero and very rich. Give me that guy. I want him running my stuff.
Alright Sean, we're running out of spots. You have you have two assistant
spots a jam spot. I know that's a
I have a GM spot still yeah. You have a jam spot so yeah and I'm gonna I'm
going double afleck. I'm going Tom Redfly Davis from Triple Frontier, so
oh wow like we'll be reporting to Afleck
never before seen doubling in a basketball characters,
movie draft great idea and Red Fly, of course, fails miserably at the end of
Triple Frontier killed. Nevertheless, I trust him to run this franchise
effectively to a championship that is. Can I ask the crowd right? Where do you
guys stand on Triple Frontier
and see that's why it's on the list.
It's excellent.
It's excellent. It's on the rewatchables list.
Affleck reporting to Affleck, I'm back around.
Sean Finnessy's the smartest person I've ever met.
I'm back, I'm back.
That's great.
CR, do you think you have one pick or two right now?
I think I have one.
Don't flip it on me, I just didn't understand what you were doing.
What do you got?
What do I have left?
You need a forward spot, a bench spot, an assistant coach, and a GM.
All right.
For my bench spot, I'm going to go Jackie Moon from Semi Pro.
You never know when he could just light it up like just absolute great vibes guy what race is he?
You have Jimmy Chitwood Billy Hoyle Jim Caroll and Jackie Moon
Christmas franchise is played in Utah
Or Boston yeah
All right, so now I have to Boston, yeah.
All right. So now I have two.
I really need a coach, but you need a coach too, right?
Oh, you took a coach.
Who needs a coach?
I did, I did.
Am I the only one that needs a coach?
I have Tupac, he has Ben Affleck.
Oh yeah, all right.
So, I need one more assistant. Oh yeah. All right.
I need one more assistant.
I thought long and hard about Jim from the town,
but I just feel like somebody who gets murdered,
that's probably a bad idea.
But I really like this guy,
and I think he's like a Tom Thibodeau, 2008 type.
I know exactly what you're going to say.
Who am I going to say?
Give her a little taste.
No. Fergus from the town? The flower shop? 2008 type. I know exactly what you're going to say. Who am I going to say? Give her a little taste.
No.
Fergus from the town.
The flower shop?
Yeah.
No, I'm taking a banjo of that movie.
I'm taking a Merriman from Den of Thieves.
Good planner, takes his work seriously. Family guy.
Donnie planned that heist.
Merriman family guy.
Yeah, but Donnie planned it.
I got family here, bro.
Benihana, just trying to enjoy a nice silent dinner
with his family.
So, I got Merriman, so that gives me,
I have all my assistants.
I'm not hiring my head coach yet.
I still need a guard and I still need a six man.
And Teen Wolf is still on the board.
And you know what?
Not any longer.
So I'm taking Teen Wolf.
I'm gonna have Scott Howard and Teen Wolf.
I get them both.
And we'll just decide game to game
if he's gonna be the human or the Teen Wolf.
And maybe even during the game he'll turn into Teen Wolf, but I think it'd be really hard to prepare for.
So you just go in the game and you're like, is he gonna do the wolf thing today or is he just gonna be,
oh he's just a five foot four point guard, I can't triple today.
But the other team's gonna be on their toes, so I'm taking Teen Wolf.
Chris, you're up again.
Alright, so I need a six man and an assistant coach.
Yep.
Edward!
And can we do that freaking...
That would be... Edward, that would be funny for the social video they make
where people are like, what the fuck happened in Austin?
for the social video they make where people are like,
what the fuck happened in Austin?
Ha ha ha ha.
We can do the, like, NBA player playing themselves,
just one pick.
Do it.
All right, LeBron from Trainwreck.
Yeah.
Plays basketball. Why, boo,
you guys really want me to take Norton?
They want to be not...
Sorry for just trying to put together
a diverse locker room, Austin.
Ha ha ha ha. They want to just try to put together a diverse locker room, Austin. You, you just entered a world of shit.
It's every, every December he's going to be talking about how it needs more help.
Yeah. Wait, so like, I don't know if chef from above the rim is enough and forward.
We got to get a better score.
We told Krista from the town talks to him for five minutes.
Here's the Brian. Here's the Pekka set.
All right, fantasy Europe and you need a I need two
assistants and you need a center.
I have you with three spots left.
What about want your her and Gomez?
I have him at you can have a mid-set forward. Do you have a center.
I have him at a.
Ricky Rose at four.
Here's what I have for your team.
Uncle Drew, Sydney Dean, Ricky Roe, and Sandy Lyle as your six players and watch over and go yeah, that's that's Bo Cruz six guys. Yeah, but you got you can have a seventh. Okay, so I need one more
player and two assistant coaches. Yes, okay, I'll come back to the player
because I have a good idea for that one, but I'm not drafting Kazam. You door
I
one of my assistants. I need like a live wire. I need a real mouthy guy.
You don't totally know what he's going to do. Wain grow. I'm going with Danny
sharp as portrayed by Jake Gyllenhaal in ambulance, who
deep pull good ambulance, which might be the best movie of the decade and
featuring an incredible performance by Jill and Hall and you know sometimes
you there's a guy who's behind the guy
who you're like that guy's gonna get fired tonight because he keeps yelling
at the best player yeah that's Danny sure sure from my team coked out wearing
a turtle neck. Did you like ambulance? I do like ambulance yeah
it just hasn't gotten me yet, but I know it will. It'll get you.
It's just one of those things.
I know it's going to happen at some point.
It just hasn't happened yet.
Let us know.
Yeah, I'll let you know.
I'll keep you all posted.
Shay, you got two.
All right.
So here's Shay's team.
Oh, tell them.
Bedazzled Brendan Fraser, Snake Plissken, Wood Harris.
What was his character?
Muta?
Yeah, I don't know.
He's just Wood Harris all the time.
Monica McCall, Android Guy.
What movie his character? Muta? Yeah, I don't know. He's just Wood Harris all the time. Monica McCall.
Android guy.
What movie was that?
Oh, Prometheus.
Air Bud.
Space Man. Coach Finstock.
Coaching. And Dalton Russell
is the owner. So you need two assistants
and a GM.
For my GM, I need
somebody who's going to outsmart everybody.
And because of that, I'm gonna pick this person
who she pulls off the coolest move
in any heist movie that's ever been done.
It's a small thing.
It's in set it off.
They break in to rob the bank, they're doing the,
everybody put your hands down or whatever.
They all get out, all the customers get down on the floor
and then the undercover cop starts to pull his gun out
And then there's TT was hiding with it
She was pretending like she was a customer because she knew somebody was gonna do that. She outsmarted them all
That's why I want running my team. Give me TT from set it off. She's a fucking genius
TT is her GM. Yeah, she's my GM and
Then for my assistant coach, I think Chris was right, you picked the wrong person from Den of Thieves.
Give me Donnie, give me the mastermind.
That's who I want.
I need a guy just like the GM, I mean the assistant should be the guy who leans over
and is like, you should try this.
And then the head coach tries it and it works out.
Yeah, it's like the guy who came up with like starting Draymond or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Like the triangle with Bill Jackson with did you just tell me that
Ray Merriman was a bad pick? Yeah, I hear you say those words. The great movie
is a bad pick to run your team.
So the system he's just there for the defense fantasy. What do you got?
Well, I need another player and it would not be a ringer related movie draft
without Tom Cruise, so I'm going with Brian planning it from cocktail.
Wow,
it's a great pack. He gets buckets. Obviously he's not guarded in that film.
He's taking wide open free throws, barely making them barely looks like he's
ever held a basketball before they shot that sequence
and yet
he looks amazing.
So I'm going to play dollars a shot right. That's right. Well,
where are you putting them because you can't put them at forward because Tom
Cruz is five foot eight.
Is he is he guard?
See he's your sixth man. He's my sixth man. Yeah. All right. That's a good
pick. Thanks. I learned. I learned by watching you, Dad.
See, cocktail's a good example.
They didn't make a cocktail, too, and thank God.
Because cocktail one didn't need a sequel,
and they would have fucked it up,
and it would have been like Kim on in the bar,
and then we would have had the memory of cocktail two.
They would have called it cocktails
with an S on the end.
Who should have played the hot young bartender though
that he brings under his wing?
That he groomed?
Yeah.
CR.
CR.
CR.
CR.
Done.
CR, you need an assistant and a GM.
All right, for my assistant, I'm going to go shooter
from Hoosier says Hopper.
I kind of like the amount of substance abuse
happening on my team.
Yeah. Either these guys are going to keep each other on the straight
narrow or we're going to turn into train spotting.
How do you feel about the coaches meeting with birdie from above the rim?
Rusty promotions, Levin and drunk shooter game plan into that.
I would love to be a part of that dinner out.
You know, Chris, this culture she's building.
Definitely.
All right, so I have two picks left and I need a coach. be a part of that dinner out.
All right, so I have two picks left and I need a coach.
And I'm not taking Norman Dale because I've written about this, but if you watch Hoosiers, he's like, secretly terrible.
I don't know what he was doing.
Like, almost doesn't design the last play of the game for Jimmy Chitwood. Yeah, he abandons him.
Jimmy Chitwood was 20 for 21 in the game. He's like, all right, we're going to do this instead.
Not doing him. Pete Bell, I looked at for a while, but he had a point shaving scandal
on his team. I can't have that in my locker room. So I got to go with my guy, Gabe Kaplan,
in Fast Break. You could see when I my guy, Gabe Kaplan in Fast Break.
You can see when I do the podcast, you see the Fast Break poster behind.
I love Gabe Kaplan.
He was in Fast Break and Welcome Back Cotter
at the same time, which has still never been approached
in Hollywood history, Sean.
Can you think of a twofer like that?
I can't.
It's like when Spielberg made Schindler's
in Jurassic Park the same year. I mean, you said it. I can't. It's like when Spielberg made shimmers in Jurassic Park the same year.
I mean you said it. I didn't. I was going to say dune part two a complete
unknown, but you got me gave cap on gets the job. He's got to go to Las Vegas
and he just cheats and gets all these people who shouldn't be in college. He
does all these crazy things and he's my coach. I still need a sixth man though,
and it's not gonna be Ed Norton in American History X.
Sorry to disappoint you guys.
You know, man, there's some good ones left.
Kyle Watson in Above the Rim I'm gonna go with.
You know, great value late in the thing is a little me first for
the first what hour of the movie little little like Lamello on
Charlotte just getting his stats as the team loses and then slowly
figured it out and became a team guy.
Yeah, kind of ship road ship in the final game like Schroder's
Ark, right?
We're like a little too ball first. Yeah, me and now he's good teammate. Yeah, so he's my sixth man
What do you got for your last pick Chris? It's just one last six man or bench guy here for me
yeah, you know you need a
GM oh
And I took Neil McCauay off the fucking board.
I will be taking...
I can't have him.
This is the easiest one.
I'll take Kelso from Heat, the guy who plans the whole robbery.
The guy was just like, it's just out there.
You just got to go grab it.
So yeah, that's easy.
Because he invented the internet?
Yeah.
Okay.
Sean, last pick.
You need an assistant coach.
Yeah, easy one. I'm taking Bodi
from point break
their basketball and body in point break. No, it's a heist movie bro. Okay,
yeah,
you're super spun around tonight Chris.
It's Chris's first draft everybody
ever spun around tonight Chris
Chris's first draft everybody
Bodi rules. You know, does he live to tell the tale of his own success? I
maybe not, but that's not really what we're thinking about when we've also
got Danny Sharp from ambulance, coach in our team and Jack Cunningham, who
obviously has a long history of substance abuse. So we're just this is
one last season for us. We're just trying to go out in a blaze of glory and I'm really excited about it. A long
term project that trying to build anything here
Joe Cabot. We saw what happened to the last team he had. They all shot each
other, so this could be complicated.
Shea you have the last pick and it's an assistant coach and then I'm going to
read everyone on the teams and the crowd can decide. All right. Well, you know what?
I'm a sucker for a magic trick.
I want a guy around who can do magic.
Give me Jesse Eisenberg's character,
J. Daniel Atlas from Now You See Me.
High-pressure situation, we're in the playoffs,
and he's like, hey, check this out.
Ta-da!
Some sleight-of-hand magic in the finals.
What movie was that?
Now You See Me.
I don't like the face that you made when I said that.
It's a good movie.
Yeah, a lot to watch today, Bill.
Now You See Me, Ambulance, you know?
Now You See Me was a movie that came out in the theater?
Yeah.
It made like $300 million.
It's a good movie.
Is that not on the list for you? Now you see me?
So people who didn't get taken.
Yeah.
Junior from Coach Carter did not get taken.
Mm-hmm.
The guy from the air up there did not get taken.
Sala.
Flatch from Hoosiers, who all he did
was go through a trophy case, put a bandage on it,
and keep going, trying to rebound.
He didn't go. We mentioned American History X guy. Yeah. put a bandage on it and keep going.
We mentioned American History X guy.
Louis Scott from Celtic Pride.
Buddy from Hoosiers who quit the team came back and really became a lockdown defender.
Shades of Dyson Daniels on the Hawks this year. Nobody took the Like Mike guy.
Yeah.
Calvin Cambridge.
Calvin.
Nobody took Andre 3000's character from Semipro, Clarence Withers.
Yeah. Chris took Jackie Moon.
I thought...
Nobody took the kid from Finding Forrester.
Yeah. Jamal Wallace. Liked his game. How about... Nobody took the kid from Finding Forrester.
Yeah. Jamal Wallace.
Liked his game.
How about Odin James from O?
Was he on anyone's board?
No.
But that's funny.
Makai Pfeiffer?
Yeah.
Just as Billy Shakespeare imagined it.
High school basketball player.
This is a rough podcast for Eddie because there were no Eddie picks, including Stacey Patton, played
by Malik Sealy.
Would you have included Kevin Garnett from Uncut Gems as eligible?
Yeah, that could have been a good pick.
Nobody took Quincy McCall.
You took his wife.
Quincy was a bust.
Strap from Hoosiers and Chubby from Teen Wolf were the big bench guys that I think were pretty shocked by.
And then nobody took Jem.
I guess nobody wanted Jem in the locker room.
All right.
So here are the teams.
And you guys can decide who won.
Chris Ryan.
Niamh Boudreaux, LeBron from Trainwreck,
Shep from Above the Rim, Jimmy Chitwood, Billy Hoyle,
Jim Carroll from the Basketball Diaries, Jackie Moon, and a coaching staff of Birdie, Rusty, and
Shooter, with Kelso as the GM and Krista from the Town as the owner.
So that's Krista's team.
Fantasy has Bo Cruz at center, a little undersized.
Jesus Shuttlesworth, Ricky Rowe, Uncle Drew, Sydney Dean.
I miss, I wrote somebody down twice.
Of course, Brian Flanagan from Cocktail.
Brian Flanagan.
And Sandy Lyle.
And Sandy Lyle.
From along Camp Holly, not the strongest bench in the league,
but we're- Weak bench.
People wanna get your guys of foul
trouble and see if Brian Flanagan or Sandy Lau. That's very tips of you.
We don't second apron use the shuttle worse contract it's an issue. Jack from
the way back as your coach yep Danny Sharp Bodie is your assistance Tom from
triple frontier so glad I got an ovation from the crowd. And then Joe Cabot as your owner.
And then my team. Little undersized with number 45 from Team Wolf at center,
but that guy's a fighter, man.
I just believe in him.
Moses Guthrie and Hussler, two real NBA players.
Butch McCray, a guard with Team Wolf.
That backcourt's amazing.
I think Vandal just made me the favorite. Kyle Watson coming off the bench with Fletch with an afro.
Gabe Kaplan Merriman and Michael Ceretto as my coaching staff.
Neal McCauley as the GM and Danny Ocean as the owner.
And then here's Shay.
All right, so I didn't read the team.
Bedazzled Brendan Fraser,
Steak Plissken, Wood Harris,
Monica McCall,
Android, Air Bud,
Spaceman,
Coach Finstock,
Donnie,
Eisenberg,
T.T. from Set It Off,
and Dalton Russell.
Yeah baby.
Yeah baby.
Is that our winner?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think we know who won.
I'm like fucking RC Buford up here baby. Yeah. This feels we know who won. I'm like fucking R.C. Buford up here, baby.
Yeah.
This feels like a hometown verdict.
We never had a chance.
He already said he was gonna fight all if he stole the spurs from San Antonio.
Now you're rooting for his team?
Alright.
What was the most surprising pick for you, CR?
Like, probably the Android from Prometheus. Getting picked before I got to it. What did you pick for you, CR?
Probably the Android from Prometheus getting picked before I got to it.
That's going to wrap it up for us. CR, what are you working on?
Still podcasting? Still doing the watch? Yeah. Oh, the watch, yeah, the watch, okay. We're actually, I'm really excited,
so let you know, Bill, we've been working on
an A-Part narrative podcast series called Podslut,
the rise of Chris Ryan, it's about all the pods
he does over the course of one week.
It's like a follow doc.
How many ringer pods have you been on?
Like over 20?
Because we have like 40.
Do you think you've been on half of them at this point?
But this is the part of the behind the music
where I'm like, I can do anything.
But then Bill's like, we knew right then that Chris was overstepping.
Mountains of coke everywhere. It's like, no, put me on more pods.
Sean, fantasy, you got the Oscars coming up.
Yes, sir.
You excited? Scale of one to 10?
No, it's no, it's been going on for six months.
I needed to end so I can go to the next thing.
But it's okay.
Ringing endorsement for the pod there.
Thank you for listening.
But you got to plug, Shay.
I'm still co-hosting the big picture.
No, I'm doing the basketball podcast six trophies with our beloved Jason Concepcion every Wednesday.
Still going.
And there might be a book coming out at some point, maybe?
I hope.
I hope somebody will give me some money to write a book and I don't know.
What are you doing, Bill?
What are you doing?
What am I doing?
I'm just getting ready for the playoffs, baby.
We got the Celtics thing on HBO Celtics City March 3rd. What am I doing? I'm just getting ready for the playoffs, baby.
We got the Celtics thing on HBO, Celtics City March 3rd. So, no, don't boot.
It's a great achievement.
It's an NBA doc as much as a Celtics doc. I really think you guys will like it.
So we got that coming. We got some good music box stuff coming as well. SG back on the Red Sox, pregnant? A bunch of great... Excited? Yeah.
And USA Canada, the most important sporting event of our lifetime, tomorrow night.
Thank you all for coming out.
Thank you for the freezing cold weather and the pneumonia.
And we love seeing you guys.
Thank you.
All right.
That's it for the podcast.
Thanks to Chris and Sean and Shay.
Thanks to Kyle and Saruti and Gahau as always.
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