The Bill Simmons Podcast - A Goofy Cowboys Tie, the Reeling Ravens, a Crazy Sports Weekend, Guess the Lines, Mets Sadness, and Sox-Yanks With Cousin Sal

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to react to the overtime matchup between the Packers and Cowboys before discussing the players and teams that have won them over in the NFL through four weeks (4:40). Then, they guess the lines for Week 5 before talking about baseball, the Ryder Cup, and closing with Parent Corner (01:03:11). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo Fill your fridge with Michelob ULTRA - the official beer partner of the NBA. https://www.doordash.com/p/play-for-an-ultra ENJOY RESPONSIBLY © 2025 ANHEUSER-BUSCH, MICHELOB ULTRA® LIGHT BEER, ST. LOUIS, MO. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit⁠⁠ www.rg-help.com⁠⁠ to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I think if I had to rank it, Yankees, Lakers are just at the very top of just pure hatred of franchises. And then it really dips to another level after that. Those are the two. Those are the two. I never would have let my kids be fans of. I just really dislike both teams. I wrote a bunch of columns about that over the years. I wrote a whole thing about sports hate.

I really sports hate both of those teams. But I actually also genuinely hate the Yankees and the Lakers too, but especially the Yankees, especially growing up when they used to kick our ass year after year, and then they were super arrogant about it. And then everything finally flipped in 2004, when we came back from 3-0 and beat them. And for the record, the Red Sox have won four World Series in the 21st century and the Yankees have only won one.

And it would be really nice to beat them when they're heavy favorites, almost two to one favorites against the Red Sox. So anyway, Go Sox. I've really enjoyed this season. It's the first season I've thrown myself into really since 2018 where I was just watching everything. And it was a really flawed, really lovable Red Sox team that had one. great starter. They traded Devers during the season, which was weird. But then Roman Anthony showed up and all of a sudden was Ted Williams. Then he got hurt. Then it's the way they weren't going to make the playoffs.

Then they somehow did it anyway. And there's just something spunky about them. So it would be interesting to say how it plays out in the playoffs. There's a chance they just get wiped out. There's another chance that they could be one of those weird baseball teams that in October all of a sudden you're like, how the hell is this team winning? I don't know what to expect. I'm just glad they're in it.

So go Red Sox. Can't wait for it. We're going to talk to Cousin'Sal. It is late Sunday night because we just had an overtime tie. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about Week 4 NFL. We're going to talk about Ryder Cup, baseball playoffs, parent corner, all coming up next. Let's take a break.

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The Ryder Cup USA team died. The Cowboys tied. And our cousin came back. What a roller coaster. We just watched a four-hour football game that ended with a team willingly saying, yeah, fuck it. Let's have a tie. 40 to 40. And yet it was a win for the Cowboys.

You must have been dreading this game all week. We won the trade. We won the trade. It's over. We won it. See how easy that was. was two firsts. I was so excited

about the bad bunny announcement and then we get a tie out of this mess. That was terrific. But you know, you could say the Cowboys got lucky but my God, I don't know how much this game you want to talk about. How lucky was LaFleur that there was a one tick left and that the guy

at the cork and the clock wasn't half asleep and make it go all. That was amazing. Just amazing. I was dumbfounded by the Packers. You were down. You had like a fifth round fourth string linebacker in the middle of the field who Collinsworth was just openly going, that guy doesn't know what he's doing. And they're just running these bubble screens and side passes. And they have craft. They have all these receivers that go over the middle. Every time

they throw over the middle, it's complete for eight to 15 yards. And then when they need to do on fourth down, they do it. And then they start doing the bubble screens again. I thought that game was such a loss for the Packers, as happy as I was for you that Dallas looked good. Their defense was so bad. I mean, they couldn't get a stop. Their special teams was bad. I thought their clock management was bizarre. And then it almost ends with them botching it.

And it should have gone to zero. Where was your clock guy? I mean, honestly, like in high school and college, that game's over. That guy can't come back. I mean, Jerry needs to pay the clock guy $148 million. That's all where our next big payment goes there. And by the way, speaking of, didn't it seem like in the beginning, the Cowboys We're kind of playing not to lose.

Then the offense, like, you know, went into gear. But I think Jerry gave everyone a bonus, says, hey, if Parsons doesn't get a sack, offensive line, quarterback, running backs, blocking. A million dollars each? Everybody gets it. I'll blow all the mic of money right now. I don't care.

And he technically, I guess, got a sack. But I was like, God damn, that better not be the story, him stopping Dak from scoring there, and Green Bay comes down. But it was a ridiculous game. The crazy thing was he's doing interviews before the game. Yeah.

It's like he's the last. person who didn't realize that everybody hated that trade. He's still talking about it, making cases for it. And then, you know, the ultimate case was the most valuable guy in that team other than DAC is the kicker. Would you trade Aubrey for two

first-round picks? The guy's the biggest weapon in the league. With these kickoff rules and how far everyone kicked field goals, it feels like he's worth 20 yards a quarter, right? Yeah. Sure. Like, and over time, you're like, well, you've got to get it, they're going to score at least three.

get one first down, he's kicking a field goal, so you know you need three to tie them. We've seen some of these teams go from quarterback to backup quarterback, and the line doesn't move at all. I feel like if we had another kicker in there, the Cowboys line should go up a half a point or down a half a point in there. And it's going to be great to see this guy hold out next August for all the money in the world.

Well, you have a great kick returner, too. I mean, it was, I thought special teams had a huge impact on this game. You know, I was in a cab, I'm Brooklyn, and in between the late afternoon games and the night game and I'm coming back and everyone's like, Jerry was crying talking to Jason Garrett.

He's saying, oh, we should have won two Super Bowls. I was like, don't anyone send me this video because I will vomit all over my hotel room and some poor housekeeper is going to have to come playing with? With Jason Garrett.

Like the Super Bowl? The final game in the season? Yeah, not the bad Bunny Bowl, but yeah, the Super Bowl. Who thinks they should have won two Super Bowls? I don't even know if they should have made a Super Bowl. I mean, was the Romo, the Romo botched where Garrett wasn't the coach for that? No, no, no, no.

But, you know, we had some 13 win. We were right there for, if not for Eli. But anyway, let's celebrate the tie. Well, let's celebrate the fact that the Cowboys are entertaining. They're not, I don't know, you're going to go, well, now you have a tie where you go 6, 10 and 1, 7, 8, 1, 5, 11, and 1, whatever you're going to end up with. But at least, at least it's going to be fun to watch. The other team's offense is going to move up down the field. Your team can move up down the field.

Liam will come back soon. Pickens, that was the best game I've ever seen him play. I thought he was dominant. Chabonte Williams, who you took a flyer on, I thought he was really good, too. I got to be honest, I didn't really feel like there was a difference between the two teams. Did you? Yeah. Like watching that game for four hours, I didn't really feel, I felt like they were right

near each other, which is a bad sign for a team we were sending the same. Super Bowl two weeks ago, myself included. I think our offense is good. I don't want to praise our defense at all, but I do feel like there are certain games this team's going to get up for. We got up for the Eagles game opening night. We didn't win that game, but we got up for it. We made sure we didn't lose the Giants,

although we played piss poor football. And we were going to get up for this one. I don't know what that says for the rest of the year, but I think you're right. They're going to be entertaining, you know. I don't think NBC or anyone will be embarrassed putting them in prime time because they'll score points. no plus we had the the chiefs were finally a little bit entertaining today um yeah new overtime rules

that was the first time we've had those i don't know i i don't know if i liked it i don't know i think it should have been 12 minutes if we're going to do each team gets a possession 10 minutes is a little late because what happens is the packers they give up a field goal then they just basically stonewallet and they make it so either retie, that's not fun. I didn't feel like, it didn't feel like sudden death to me. It felt like sudden nap.

Yeah, but this wasn't an exact. Cowboys didn't score a touchdown. It's been like that for years. If you kick a field, I know, but I just didn't like it in general because even if the Cowboys scored, the Packers were still going to get the ball back with their chance to go down.

I just, I didn't feel like it was as tense as I wanted it to be. Yeah. That's my point. I never felt like I was like, oh my God. Oh, they got that. It was like a, oh, it's never felt that way.

I feel like here's something I'll say is, you know, the way you think about it is, oh, if you win the toss, you play on defense, right? Because you want to see what the team does. You want to see what you have to do in the second position. I didn't like that either. I don't know if that's a case anymore. If you have an exhausted defense,

you're putting them out there right away. And the Cowboys move the ball down the field. And the Cowboys defense was probably equally as tired, had about 15 good minutes to re-energize, you know? Otherwise, and Packers maybe scored touchdown if they get the ball first. Yeah, I didn't like that. I just didn't feel like that was the same urgency to the quarter. Like, first of all, you're deferring,

which everybody, they did a lot of stories on that before the year. And it's like probably slightly makes sense to be second because then you have the option going for two and trying to whatever if both teams scored touchdown. Yeah. But I don't know. I would want the ball first. Dallas had been on the field for a while.

Momentum. It was weird. Yeah. I didn't like it. I think if you're going to have both teams can score a touchdown, like let's make it 12 minutes, let's make the game longer. 10 minutes is just, I don't know. I don't like a tie in any situation.

I didn't love that the Ryder Cup could have maybe ended in a tie. I was like, really, we're going to watch 72 hours of golf and it's going to end in a tie. Like, we can get rid of all these ties. Plenty of scoring. The Ryder Cup had this wrinkle. Nobody even really knew about that Hoblins. It's like, yeah, I'm hurt. It's like, ah, looks like we split the half.

It's like, what? The guy can't play. Why don't you lose the half? Yeah, I guess we benefited off that in 91 or something, but yeah, I'm what day. There are some dumb golf rules, too. So what would be your dream overtime rule? Like, how would you do it? Because I didn't like what happened tonight.

Whatever that was, I didn't love it. My dream overtime rule is that they do away with it, so we could have started this at 1130 instead of 1220. Come on, you'll have a slice of pizza at 1.30 of the morning. You're not kidding. You're not freaking kidding. I don't know. I still haven't heard one that's perfect, honestly. Yeah.

What would you do? I would have gone two more minutes. I think it should be 12 minutes. Yeah. Because then that's enough time for two long drives, you get the two timeouts, and then if you're the Packers, where you're like,

ah, whatever, we'll just tie. You're not worried about Dallas getting the ball back because you can do what they did, which is just basically killed the clock. I didn't like that. I'm good with adding time. I don't think it's a danger thing anymore. You got half the players wearing helmets

It's the size of the sphere. So it's, we're good. We can play two more minutes. The Packers are playing blackjack. They're just surrendering over and over again. Yeah, surrender. Ah, one more. Very strange.

So you didn't like the two point. I don't think, I take it, you didn't like the two point conversion being run back. Well, the extra point being blocked. You weren't a fan of that. You know what I wasn't a fan of? They scored and it's 13-0. And I had a great day today. And this was like the Packers and some moneyland parlors was the caper.

And I went and I got myself for a nice thing of hot water. Three minutes, I'm talking to my son in the kitchen. Come back with my glass of hot water with a little lemon in it. And it's 13 to 2. And I'm like, did I like have a stroke? What? How is what? Did I miss a safety?

So now I'm rewinding. And I mean, that never happens, that two point thing. They said it happened 15 times in the last 11 years. I don't remember any of the times to you. Like maybe once? No, it never happens. Nothing, it never happens. A football fan drinking hot water with lemon.

What's the matter? Are you sick or something? Huh? What's wrong with having hot water with lemon? What's right with it? Hot water and lemon. You deserve that. I'm old.

I'm old. I had some pizza today. I wanted to send some hot water down the pipes. Oh, my God. Wow. How dare you? No, it's good. It's good.

You were complaining on Tuesday night because I wanted to get milkshakes and you didn't want to get a milkshake. I know. You wanted to share a milkshake with Rob Mills. You're going to share a milkshake with another grown man. You're making fun of me.

I can't breathe at the end of these meals. It's not. I still don't want hot water and lemon. I would never be seen. Well, the hot water is making me hot and sweaty right now. So I'm probably going to have a stroke as we do this. Well, Green Bay. I'm pretty lukewarm.

I know they'll get a couple receivers back though they'll get a little healthier on the defensive side but for the most part the impact of the Parsons thing was not what we had in our heads so far definitely far from what we saw week one right like against Detroit like oh this team's not you're going to be lucky to get 10 points against this team

at all. I'm looking at the divisions you want to guess for NFC North? North yeah I think Detroit has to be favored now probably minus, I haven't looked at this. I would say Detroit minus 140. Detroit plus 140.

I'm sorry. No, I would have said minus 140. Yeah, yeah. Green Bay's even, Detroit plus 140. So Green Bay's favorites, though. Yeah, barely favored. And they have to play in Detroit. Yeah, yeah.

So who would you have in the NFC right now? In the whole NFC? If you had to pick an NFC team. that's the Eagles I hate it but it's the Eagles yeah isn't it no completions

in the second after I know I know they're laughing at all of us they just love to fuck with us let's play a game of win you over oh

I'm gonna throw some things at you and you tell me if you were one over or not I'm gonna throw some hot tea with lemon at you it's not right now I don't know a lemon in this one it's just hot water

at least put it in a big John stud glass or something Come on. This is going to be us in the nursing home 25 years from now. You're making fun to me with the hot water. Put your lemon away. When you over, did the Chiefs win you back today?

Yeah, they did. Yeah, okay. They did. Yeah, they, I think they were laughing at all of us, much like the Eagles do offensive with their offensive game call. But I don't know, man. I mean, they have receivers like dancing.

Like, all right, you barely break 17 points any week. And you guys are dancing around. Then, like, I don't know. Do you think it's a combination of the Ravens defense being abysmal, bottom three? I thought it was a good sign how they played today. I didn't understand the line this week, especially when all the Baltimore injuries came out. I thought it probably should have been closer to pick home.

With that said, I just thought Baltimore was decimated. I think Harbaugh knew it. Some of the usage with Henry was pretty strange where he just wasn't in there on these third and two, third of ones, where I feel like in January he will be. And I thought the announcers did a good job of talking about it. When he's out there, you have to play like he's going to move your line back. And when he's not out there, you can just play everything completely different.

So I just felt like they kind of knew they weren't going to win the game. And they went pretty vanilla. and Lamar tweaked his hamstring and they're just like, all right, he's out. It just, it was like they just felt like they didn't, they weren't going to win and they didn't, they didn't really want to go for it. That was my take.

Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong. I just, this is two weeks in a row. We saw Lamar not be able to break and tame, right? And maybe you're right. Maybe they're just showing vanilla offense because they knew they were going to be stuck today. But, yeah, the chiefs are, you know, once the Chargers lost to the Giants,

I'm like, oh, I get it. I get it. the chiefs are going to win. They're going to be a game out and they still have the game at home against the charges. Now I understand football. Kyle Hamilton had a really weird quote. Let me see if I can find it. It was the only thing that made me feel weird about maybe something's going on with the Ravens. He said, I just want to apologize to the fans, the product that we're putting in the field right now, not up to par with the raves have been in the past from recent past. We're trying our best to correct it, but obviously something's wrong.

wrong. It's their best guy on defense. Now, they're missing seven guys. It's going to take a while for everybody to come back. And they feel like they do this every once in a while. But the difference this time around, going one and three, apparently that's only happened twice in the last 25 years for them. And 05 and 15, they didn't make the playoffs.

And more importantly, their defense is on pace to allow 560 points. Wow. That seems like a problem. Yeah. That's a lot. 560 for 17 games you know and they just don't get stops

they seem slow and I would be like Mallor is freaking out she thinks they might be the year from hell team yeah which brings up the point that we don't have the year

from hell team obvious yet and they're probably the favor right they're minus 150 to be the year from hell team the most which put the Niners no they're kind of coming off

the year from hell so you could You can assume that it might happen again. Yeah, I was thinking about it. So just taking it down the ladder a little bit. Like, I don't think Lamar could be in the conversation with Allen before this game even to be MVP. Because like after last week's performance, like, well, they're going to lose five games. They're not going to be a top two seed.

Now I'm not even sure they win that division. Like, you know, for the odds there. Do you have that? Baltimore's minus 210. I would not take, I don't know if there's value in the Steelers plus 280. but I had no way I would take the Ravens at minus 210 at this point. So Steelers have a two-game lead on them and one of the biggest, shiniest horseshoes

up their ass that I've seen in recent years. It's unbelievable. We're going to talk about them later. I think there's a real issue with the Ravens with all these injuries and the fact that the bigger thing is their schedules, you know, it was one of like the three or four schedules who we were kind of worried about heading into the year.

we were wondering if they would go two and two to come out of this and then kind of write the ship and do what they do. But I don't know. I guess the one thing with them is the division, I don't think, now that burrows out, Cleveland can't score. There's already like, are they going to change QBs stuff with them? And I continue to not think Pittsburgh is good. I don't care.

They can go 16 and 1. And I'm just not buying them this year. I was in on them last year. I don't see it this year. Do you? I'm with you, but they're going to win games like this, like today, right? Like, I don't want to give them too much credit, but their offense isn't imaginative at all.

They move the ball a little better. But, you know, I go back and forth. They have wins against Justin Fields and Drake, maybe, and Carson Wentz. And I'm like, but I'm not betting them to win the AFC North, right? And they have the Browns and Bengals next. They could be five and one, this team. They seem so easy to stop. Rogers is just quick throwing everything.

I don't understand why teams don't just move everybody up. Like, they're not trying to test anybody to them. the field at all. I don't I don't think they run the ball particularly well though game well was pretty well pretty good today and they just get these turnovers every game. I mean the jags are the other team that are just getting turnovers left and right and the Steelers are getting it. But the game today like the right tackle and the center and the Vikings were out by the second quarter. Like you just kind of knew. Carly, Carson Wentz with a with a AAA offensive line like this isn't going to go well. And then they're playing in Ireland, which is supposed to be.

you know, their foreign country neutral site. It's like 95% Stewards fans there and it felt like a real home game and it seemed like it was loud there too. So I just don't see it. I thought the patch should beat them last week like convincingly.

Yeah. I mean, look, they're probably somewhere in between what we saw today. I still don't like the quality of quarterbacks their face and like once, you know, we fall in love with some of these backups. Like once won last week They crushed Cincinnati. Well, look what Cincinnati did the week before.

They won, and we like Browning, right? Like, it doesn't, you can't count on these guys to play consecutive games, you know, above par, I think. Yeah. I mean, Winston Marriota were two people, I didn't bet on Washington. Yeah. Two quarterbacks you could have bet on today and felt good about that until you're watching the game. You're like, oh, shit. I bet on Marcus Mariotta.

What did I do? Right. Did the Jaguars win you over? Where are you with that? How much of that game did you watch? No, I watched a lot of it. And I have to stick with them because I picked them to win that stupid division. But they...

Three and one. I don't know if it's stupid. Plenty of times they look to give that game away, right? That just seems to be the thing. Like, will the clock expire before they do enough stupid shit, whether it's Trevor Lawrence going out of bounds, you know, when he should be trying to kill the clock. But I think you said it earlier.

They have three or more turnovers in all four games. They had four today. And Eric Armstead. 13. 13 total. Yeah. So that'll keep them in every game if that keeps up. But it's also kind of flukish. They had nine total last year.

They have 13 already this year through four. They lead the league. Pretty good. I've actually just randomly, I think, have watched every Jaguars game. I think I've had money on three of them. there are a couple you know dopey turnovers that like oh that was stupid but they there was somewhere they you know they caused the turnover and they are aggressive and they do fly around and they make plays so at some point it's a real thing um i want to point out there a dumb

jake brownie drive away from being four and oh right right for sure their best player has 12 catches and zero ts in four games thomas their stud mega rookie who they traded all that shit for us, 10 catches and zero TDs and four games. And for some reason it's working. E.T.N. is like really, really, uh, I, like, he murdered my fantasy team last year. But he's

got the juice back. And, uh, I don't know. They've gotten some special team stuff. Their coach tried to fight Robert A. Kid Sala. That's fun. After the game, I enjoyed that. Um, and I can't find seven AFC playoff teams. Yeah. So they might make it. I mean, they might get to

nine and make it. They could beat out Baltimore for a wild card at this point, even if they don't win the division. It's getting that weird. I think, I don't want to say they won me over, but I am taking them seriously as, like, I bet on them today they won. Like, I do think they're competent. I think they're slightly above middle of the road. I feel the same way about them and the Pats.

The Niners, is there a three-in-one team you like less than the Niners right now? Let me say, yeah. They looked awful today. What's Denver? Are they two and one? They could be three and one or no? Three and one teams are, I'll give them to you.

Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, Indy, Chargers, Detroit, Tampa, San Francisco, Seattle on the Rams. I mean, we're probably going to get to this on your list there,

but Indy is, I think I would take San Francisco over in Indianapolis. Okay. Not by a lot, but they just, they just look like they want to do anything stupid. it to lose. I mean, that Adonnie Mitchell play, sorry, that's

what's the one of that? He cost them 14 points. The one, the touchback one is the one I love. Yeah, that was tough. I felt bad for him because I didn't, it wasn't like a Deshaun putting the ball out and doing a dance. Like he was about to cross the line

and he was going to hold it up, which every guy does. But for some reason when he did it, he had like a spassum. Yeah, it was a little less foolish. Yeah, it wasn't. The Deshaun thing is still like the all-timer. When they drop it before they hit the goal line, those are the stupidest. That wasn't, yeah, that wasn't that.

But, I mean, is this go on in any other workplace, really? Like at the ringer, if someone wrote an article and then juggled his computer and celebration, then dropped it into a staircase, three floors. Like, you're like, fucking asshole. Don't ever talk to me again, right? What are you doing? You flew to New York. You forgot your cord.

Yeah, that's true. That was like an end of Donald Mitchell. Could I have to Amazon? on and send you a new recorder. Oh, what an idiot. Here's the thing with the Niners, special teams, week after week, they're in the bottom, three or five, right? They gave up a huge kick return this week.

They had the field goal stuff from Miller in the air. It just feels like they've just never solved that. They just lose points. They're like the anti-Dalas. They've already had a bunch of injuries, and they have not had the McCaffrey injury yet. And they're rushing, by the way, What do you think they're rushing yards per carry?

The Vaunted Niners running attack? I think it is this year. 4-2? 3-3. Really? Second and last in the NFL. And they're playing Thursday. Right.

Playing Seattle. So they could be three and two and headed the wrong way. Play the Rams Thursday. Yeah, yeah. Or the Rams, yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. Who's your favorite NFC West team?

I think you're right because it's like we haven't seen the end of their injuries, just as, and Purdy, like, you and I, we went back and forth with Purdy so much from game to game. I did it again. I went, I'm back against, but now you'll see it within the games. Like, you'll see him make great throw. And then you're like, oh my God, then what is he thinking with that interception?

Like, we're just within the same game. Like, that's that's new, uh, Purdy. All right, let's look at this. He makes some plays that I'm just like, I got to go get some hot water and lemon. I just can't believe he did that. Good. You got to blame someone for that. That's a double lemon.

It's a double 11 Throw into traffic by Purdy Yeah, so can I get I haven't looked at the NFC West lines Can I guess? Sure, yeah Because we have three, three and one teams

and then Arizona's two and two and two. I'm going to say the Rams are favored To win the NFC West And probably in the plus 140 to 150 range Very good, plus 135. I'm going to say The Niners are second just because there's a bunch of money

in them already, but it's probably higher like plus 190. 165. I think Seattle's under 2 to 1, probably plus 190. Oh, all right. So that's the team. You got to bet. And I like them too. They're 4 to 1. I guess they were like

almost 8 to 1 last week, but I don't think they cut that enough. They were 5 to 1 before the season, because I bet it. After week 1, they went to 10 to 1, 11 to 1 in some spots. Yeah. 8 to 1 after week 2. So now it's still 4 to 1. 4 to 1. I think Seattle's a good team.

Well, we were cursing that coach all Thursday night on text. We were very upset with their decisions. A lot of good coaches made weird decisions this week. I just think he's like, do you ever have those family members or friends who are just like the overprotected parents? Where they're just like, you're going somewhere and the kids have to be in a car seat and they're just like completely over the top. I just think that's how he treats offense. So, but be careful.

Put Donald in a car seat. It's 33. He just, he's so scared of anything of, of having the offense fuck things up. He either really believes in his defense or just doesn't understand offense. Because this is two out of the,

out of the four weeks, he just seemed terrified to let his offense win a game for him. Yeah. And then by the goal line, making weird calls, Kenneth Walker never gets a ball. ball at the goal line anymore and nobody does their kickers any favors like everybody nobody wants to go for touchdowns anymore it's like all let's get him to the 36 yard line let's see what he's got

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This was my number one, won me over guy. I want to see if you felt the same way. Did Ashton Gentie win you over as a top six pick today? yeah this is a departure of what we said just last week right literally seven days ago we were like man when you have that many holes I don't know that's a luxury picks like I believe that when I said it I've watched a lot of him he's getting blasted behind the line of scrimmage

so his bad carries are not his fault at all I don't think for the most part that offensive line is decrepit but he had injuries today too right but when he breaks him and he's he's rock solid so yeah he's back he's back in my eyes won me over i thought he was the best player i watched today in any of the TVs wow he was either getting blasted behind the line and somehow fighting his way back to line of scrimmage he was met i don't know how many guys i can't wait for the stats i don't know how many guys he made miss today but it had to have been it felt like 20 um he's just so dangerous he can catch it i just felt like he found his footing today.

I felt in the other games, he just seemed kind of small to me. And today he was just like, I thought he was overpowering today. I thought he was awesome. And that was a really, really, really, really horrible Raiders loss. Yeah, well, I was to say,

plays from losers. That's a problem. Yeah, I'm out. I had them begrudgingly as my seventh seed. And it was like, do you go Jacksonville? Do you go Indy? Like, who do you have to go nine and eight? And I was like, ah, fuck it, Vegas.

They're not making the play. playoffs. I feel very comfortable predicting that right now. You're out on the raise? You don't think this is a hasty decision? Wow. No. Okay. No. We need to have, Gino has seven picks in four games, by the way. I know. We need to have a real combo about P. Carroll because they're one of the three worst coach teams. They do really stupid game management stuff. They seem unprepared. They're sloppy. I just don't agree with stuff. I don't know how they beat the Pats in week one because I think the Pats are just better. than them. When he went on third and two, again, setting his kicker

up for a shitty long field goal because there's this common mis-exception that everybody makes field goals. Like, no, there's a bunch that are blocked and there's a bunch that just miss, you know? It still happens. But they cut away to him, like, right after the run play, the weak run play. And he's like, that was a bad call.

Actually, you could see his mouth. He was like, yes, Pete. Yes, you're getting it. Yeah. Well, I wonder, like, with him and Belichick, because I've been thinking about this with Belichick, and we even talked about it a little last week, like, I wrote this column for ESPN. It must have been in, I don't know, late 2000s. I did the speed limit corollary about when coaches hit 55.

I remember that. That they started tailing out and had all this data. And it was like Don Chula, Chuck Null, Tom Langer, all these people when they hit a certain age. And then, you know, as we had better stuff now, we have hot tea with lemon and creatine and all these things, HGH, all these different ways, mind exercises. But maybe we're really pushing it when we get to. in the mid-70s. Like, it might be too much. And I can only judge it from the people in our life

who have at that age. And you have a few relatives in that age or higher. And it's just like, I just don't know if they should be running an NFL team against people like in their 30s, like Ben Johnson. But then we get tricked, right? Because he's doing push-ups with the special teams and training camp.

And he's chewing that gum faster than anybody's ever said, like, oh, man, maybe there's something in the gum. and the players like them so you want to make an exception in his case but you're right sometimes it's too old it's a tall task because it still seems like he's Pete Carroll right

he looks young and spry but man they look really really sloppy I mean this guy might be getting up at 4 in the morning and going to the facility every day so what the hell do we know but yeah they're just no different they're never any different

well the weird thing is Tennessee is definitely the worst team in the conference. They're really, really terrible. Did not win me over. Was that on your list? I did not have them on the list. Jets, Miami, one of those teams may be terrible, maybe both. And we'll probably have a better idea after tomorrow.

Cincinnati without Burrow might be terrible. And then, you know, the Browns. You got to eat the Saints and the Panthers. I'm just going to AFC. Oh, sorry. Okay. Yeah. The Browns who, they're,

Quarterback is just two, three picks every week. They might be terrible. It's just a lot of terrible. So it's... No surprises, yeah. But yet, if you go to the NFC, it's only New Orleans and Carolina that I feel like are really bad. I don't think the Giants are bad.

Giants jumped out of there. Your team's not bad. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what other NFC. I guess the Bears aren't bad because they win, you know, against garbage teams like mine and today. Tennessee is really bad.

And we talked about Callahan Fire Tire Tiretires. The Tommy Boy Titans. Yeah, the Tommy Boy Titans. Cam Ward finally laid into them. Did the Bears show you anything that you like today? Because they are two and two. I did watch a five-minute Bears locker room

handing out the game balls. Ben Johnson was like just doing a Sean McVeigh impersonation, gave one to the C. safety buyer. He gave one to the guy who blocked the kick. Right. Right. Right. Right. I told you, he was doing that whole thing. And it was like, you guys, you should have lost. Like the Raiders, I don't know how they didn't win the game. They'll get too excited. He's going to have to give one to the reporter who asked them, what are you going to change? Did you see that? Female reporter. Yeah, you got in trouble.

Yeah. It kind of sucks because there's only one question you could ask a coach that's losing coming out of the locker room. And it's like, what are you going to do different? But if you word it just differently and be like, you've got to, what are you going to change? Come on. Like, come on. What's wrong with you? You could see these guys getting mad. But no game ball for her.

She maybe should have audible than done like that. So what do you think of Las Vegas? Like, it's really changed, huh? Exactly. Are you with six to five? Will you leave the table if you don't see three to two blackjack? Because, uh, why do you think tourism's down? What would be your three takes?

I'm not sure about the Bears. I didn't think Caleb played particularly well. Their defense made a couple of plays, but it was almost the case that the Raiders were just kind of worse. All right, next one. Did Drake maybe win you over? He was great today. This is maybe, though.

This is why he's maybe, right? He's got to do it. Go to Buffalo next week and do something similar. Because right now it's just, yeah, maybe. And I bet him a little. over one and a half touchdowns today. I thought this was a nice spot for them. Oh, come on.

That doesn't even flow. Still Drake, maybe. I know, I got a lot of shit for that. I can't wait to get, you got a lot of shit for that? Well,

like, oh, look what he's doing. Who was? A jibog, even on our chain is like, look, yeah, but Jayhug was offended.

Yeah, he didn't like that. All right. Well, we all love Drake May. There's some good Drake May stats now about his, uh, his stats three games in a row.

And it's like, the only other QBs under 23, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady Yeah, yeah, he's on some weird lists. But you know when you can make these lists where you're like, only five other QBs have ever done this. But I mean, he's completing over 75% of his

passes. He's not turning the ball over that much. He only had one dumb play today. It didn't come back to Hunt them. But the thing that I loved about him today, because you knew they were going to win once they went up 14-6. There was a couple plays during the game. There was one play. There was a run out to the side.

when last year he would have put a shoulder and tried to get the extra yard and ended up getting like concussed. And then there was another one on a scramble or the middle where he slid. But it's clear that they've just banged home. Don't take hits. Don't take hits. Don't take kids. So he was like way more cautious about how he put his body out there. Which I thought he was excellent. But that said Carolina is terrible. I mean, that's what I was going to say. If you would create the perfect get right spot, wouldn't it be Carolina playing Carolina at home? it was after they won a game, right? And the line was two points too low.

The line should have been over seven, I think. Yeah. I think this is a bigger game for Vrable. I mean, I would have think Drake, hey, I'm not going to think he's terrible after this game, but Vrable really had this one. Yeah.

Well, here's the thing. They're going to Buffalo next week on a Sunday night, and they're playing a Buffalo team that the defense just looked awful. And they've had some injuries. They have two guys suspended that haven't come back yet. but New Orleans was moving the ball up and down the field on them

and was way more in that game than the final score showed. I had a 13 point tease with them that I was sweating out. I sweat that one out too. Yeah. But I just, I think they're going to be able to move the ball on them next week.

I can't wait to guess that line because there's like a four point cushion that I think that could go. Would you take 40-40 tie next Sunday night? He would take a 40-40 tie. would not want the times. Oh, stop. A couple more win you over is really quick.

Did the Steelers win you over at all as a playoff team? Or do you think they're a rabbit team this year? I think just by default, because all these other, you just went over, the AFC teams that are dropping out. But, yeah, because they're three and one so they could go six and eight and make the playoffs now. Right. No, six and seven and make the playoffs.

Tomlin's streak seems to be intact, right, at this point? Oh, man. I mean, his clock management was some of the worst stuff of the season today. Right. Yeah, for sure. Not going for it on fourth and one. And then taking a delay a game. It's like, what are you doing?

Like, uh. What do you think they are to make the playoffs? Plus one. Take a sip of water if you need. Plus one. Minus 130. So they're favored now to be at least nine. an aid or make the playoffs.

Did you go under on them this year? Because I know I did. Yeah, but barely. I went on there. I thought this was a year. It breaks. I got to hand it to what they're getting out of Rogers. Sure.

They're maximizing the three or four things he can do. And he looks way better than he did last year. And he's just getting rid of the ball any time he has pressure. But they have like eight, nine types of plays that they just do. And it's all quick. And he's getting rid of the ball. he's never he's never on the move and uh they know how to use it but i think as the year goes long i think people are going to figure it out it's like watching yeah he's jelling with metcalf

better than i thought he would right yeah that's you know all these receivers that he made the jets bring in and everything you didn't see that spark i kind of see it with metcap it's funny it reminds me a little at tua where it's just a certain type of thing and i think as two of the longer he's been doing the dolphins teams are getting more and more used to it And I just don't think they're used to it yet with Rogers. The ball's coming out super fast. And it's always to the sides are right over the middle. And he's never, it's just he's playing so differently that he used to play.

Here's what I learned. This is what won me over. Don't bet on the overseas game. Just don't. House told me this on Thursday. We were doing it for Ringer 107. And House is like, I just want to point out, we're betting on the 930 game. And we've said we're not going to do that.

I'm like, all right, but I really love the Vikings. Right. Well, I had the Steelers, so I'm not going to subscribe to that just yet. The other Guantene League that I'm in, we had Kenneth Gainwell on our bench. We don't have good running backs. And woke up at 6.30, just then you'd have been proud of me. I woke up, turned on TV. There was 1455 left in the first quarter.

I was like, I fucking nailed it. It was like 633. And then they're like, there's Kenneth Gainwell. they're starting running back because no Jalen Warren today and I was like, ah. And I just wonder

how many people got hosed on the Jalen Warren thing because I got hosed by not putting Gainwell in our stupid guillotine thing. But how many people just had Jalen Warren at a starting lineup

and woke up and he's just not there? It's not good. Yeah, there wasn't enough heads up Saturday night for sure. No, it was Saturday night now.

All right. Next, win you over. Did Ireland win you over as an NFL location? I don't know. I mean, we were doing the pregame show on YouTube. You should watch that.

You should definitely start watching it. I 100% watched it. I had multiple TVs. I was watching. It is hard. We're up against the Ryder Cup and the NFL game. But so I didn't see a lot of the festivities. I'm going to have to pass on that.

Well, they did. So here's what I really loved. Other than I thought the crowd was loud and engaged. Their version of Sweet Caroline in Ireland is Zon. by the cranberries. Oh, really? The whole crowd saying zombie. And then weirdly, after the Ryder Cup,

they're in the bus, all the foreign team, European team, and they're singing zombie on the bus to Rory McElroy. Shane Lowry's leading it. This is like the biggest day zombies had in 30 years.

Yeah. Huge zombie days. Zombies make sense as like a crowd side. I mean, if you read the lyrics, it's pretty depressing. It's a weird one to sing. Yeah, and you got the

Yeah, you got the crowd, yeah. Yeah, so they did a great job. That's better than this week, Caroline. Yeah. The fantasy guys had a great time. Did Puka Nakur win you over as the new best wide receiver in the week? Because I think it's official. I think he has the bell.

Here's what I'll say about. Was he at 42 receptions and four games or something? 42 for 503. Yeah. Four games. I think. I used to think McCaffrey is the one guy

if he's not in the lineup, I don't want anything to do with betting that team. Now I think league-wide, I think it's Pooka Nakua. If he's out, I don't know that

in any situation that I'd bet the Rams. This guy is just such a godson for this team and Stafford. 42 receptions. You know what's crazy? It's all types of catches

and plays. If you do like the montage of his, he'll beat somebody down the sideline. He'll have a crosser. He'll have a bubble screen. He'll have like a little 10-yarder in traffic. He's just amazing. I agree with you. What's cool about him versus Chaser Jefferson is you feel like those guys aren't going to be the same if they have the backup QB. And I think with Pook, I honestly feel like with any QB, he'd go for like eight for 90 at this

point. He's just a monster. He was awesome. That game was awesome. You mentioned the Mitchell thing before. The Colts pass defense is going to be their Achilles heel if they're going to actually make a playoff run. It's really bad. To give up an 88 yarder to lose the game, basically. And their fans will remember that one as the Michigan. Yeah, Jaden Daniels is obviously a bunch of better athlete than Danny Times at this point. But the teams, the last year's Washington team, and this year's Colts,

Washington didn't punt for like three weeks, right? Remember last year? And the Colts punted once in the first three games. and you just wonder when that's going to end. It was like it just had to, they had to be slapped around, even though they should have won today. It was a,

if you had the Colts, either Moneyliner plus whatever, like that was a pretty tough beat because they hung, that was a 50-50 game. I thought that Taylor, when on the holding penalty were the run that guy,

he's just so fucking fast. He's never looked better or faster. The Mitchell touchdown was awesome. Right. So you lose 14 points of plays that just swings it. A lot of big plays go against them, yep. I will say I'm afraid of the Colts.

I didn't really, I had the Rams like in a like a tease situation, but I don't really like betting against the Colts. They kind of scare me. I think Warren's terrifying. Yeah. He's going to score touchdowns from the backfield. It's not good.

He's a monster. Last one, when you over, did Jackson Dart win you over at all? And did you watch the game today with any Giants fans. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What was the tale?

Their minds. Well, their takes was, they're screaming at me from having the Chargers on a teaser, which I guess House and everybody warned us again. And then I doubled up on the second half.

You didn't do that? No, I completely stayed away from the Chargers. Darts hit it all the makings. Neighbors is out. And Darts banging his hand against the helmets, not even one of the soft helmets. And then, you know,

I was like, oh, man, they're down three. they're going to win this game, but that defense was much better than we've seen in the past. And scataboo, I mean, I see a ton of scataboo jerseys out here. Like, just in Brooklyn. Like, I think they like him more than, like, any prospect of dart. I don't even think they care if he gets, like, 700 yards and five touchdowns,

it's the guy. Well, I mean, the first 45 minutes of that game for the Giants fans, that was, like, the greatest. And then, you know, neighbors goes hurt. Yeah, I think. That's a bummer. losing young Beckham and then losing

young neighbors with season ending injuries fucking sucks. I hadn't thought of that. It's like completely unfair because both at these awesome points of their career where it just seemed like every time they're throwing it up to them it felt like anything was possible. The Giants just

they've just had so much bad luck but I do think Dart even when he went out he had this great scramble and they took them out for I guess the concussion spotter. and fucking Russ came in and you feel the crowd was like

oh no Russ like they just have to wave him but no it seems like they nail the pen like what I got to put Russ in now shit I'm never going to be able to figure out this quarterback gauntlet I'm going to be jobless

James is like I'm right here right here that draft though because Carter was awesome today had 20 pressures of the charges but that's a different conversation is the Chargers O-Line Alk got hurt,

which was the biggest injury that happened today other than neighbors. He's out for a few weeks, it seems like, they already. It's an ankle injury. They said a few weeks already.

They said they were worried that it was going to be at least a couple weeks, so who knows. But, you know, that maybe that's the team. One of these teams, Colts, Chargers,

one of these 3-0 teams when I'm not making the playoffs. I'm like, oh, in the 3-0. I just, we can't give them the, just yet like we like a lot of people were with the chargers last week um all right some just some random questions from some of the other games philly who died in the heat and you could feel that one

coming that was a great second half bet they kept talking about the heat they kept talking about how the eagle's bench was baking in the sun it's like and then you know they're cutting over the guys are dying but so baker almost came back but they just didn't have enough weapons but but But Chase McLaughen made a 65-yard field goal today in that game. What distance would actually impress you at this point with a field goal? Because 20 years ago, like, I went to see the Broncos play in the late 90s with our buddy Gus. And we saw Elam kick a 63-yarder. And it was in altitude, but it was like that we just couldn't believe it.

It was like the fucking moon landing. I just couldn't believe how far it was. And now this is, so how far? Is it over 70 for you that would get your attention? What's the number? 72? That was the outdoor record, right? 65 was the outdoor record.

And you're right. Like, we just moved on to the next one. It just wasn't, like, wouldn't even be in the top 40 minutes of the sports center. 70? With 70? I remember when Janikowski would do this, right? And you were like, oh, maybe they should take a false start. They're not winning any games this year anyway.

Maybe they should take a false start right before the half and he should kick it from, let him break the record. I think 71 or 72. I think we're in the Barry Bond's range here. It's got to be like... Aubrey will have a 70 at one point, right? I think so. I just, I don't understand how this...

I know they did something with the balls, right? You can massage your own balls and put weird... Whoa, hey. Yeah, no, it seems like it for sure. You can push, you can massage. your balls, you can do it all. Here's another one. So Bejohn had a 69-yard catch today,

and they made a big deal about how he was 21.85 miles an hour in the run. And then that Steelers linebacker caught Addison from behind, and they were like, oh, he was 21.3. When did this start and how could it end? When can this stop? Oh, you don't like it? You don't like the... I do not.

I don't mean to be... you know, a fart in church on this. But the difference thing 20 miles an hour and 21 miles an hour, like, I'm going to be telling my grandkids about, oh, I got to 22. I don't know. Who cares?

You like it in your car, though, right? You like the odometer? You like being able to tell how fast you go. If I'm going 21 miles an hour in my car, I'm fucking pissed. There's some old lady in front of me. I thought it was cool with the Eagles blocking the kick.

I didn't think it was cool because I lost money. on with the Rams. But the fact that they clocked that guy at 19. So for 300-pounders running 19. Yeah, but you're right. Otherwise, I don't know the difference between 20 and 21. Just when you're driving around the next couple of days in Uber, just like, oh, 36.

Oh, now we're going 37. These numbers are all around the same. Yeah. Like if somebody was going 25, I was like, hold, Bijam-Robinson ran 25 hours an hour. That's amazing. But it seems like it's all in the 21, 22. I don't know. Maybe I'm too old.

I think we have to be, I don't know, like, what an ostrich runs. I want to compare it to animals. I think then maybe we'd be more impressed, you know? Like, oh, like, show like a bobcat? Yeah, like a cheetah or a bobcat. I want to see. Or like a black bear? They call Tyreek the cheetah, right?

But it's a, yeah, cheetah's probably a lot faster, isn't it? I would assume. I think a cheetah is like 50 miles an hour. Yeah. Well, I mean, so they do the miles an hour thing, but. is more interesting to me because they were like, it's 90, but it's really 100 degrees on the field. It's like, well, how hot is it exactly on the field? And like that's where instead of like Mike Pereira, let's go to like some sort of scientist to be like, okay, Jordan Davis is 330 pounds.

It's 100 degrees outside. So the odds of him being dehydrated in two hours is actually like 90%. What they're going to have to do is give him oxygen. Like now I'm actually learning something. I like that. You're telling me a difference between this guy runs 20. two miles an hour and this guy runs 21 and a half like great what do i care yeah bill simmons water is 108 degrees if he throws a lemon in there it goes down 1004.5 see i'm drinking hot water and i have a lot energy for the pod maybe i know something uh more washington falcons notes i won that i won money in the falcons and their offense look great they scored zero points last week they had 435 yards this week washington is banged up i think panics is the new gino because i feel like we're about to

Gino feels like we're the end of Gino's career. We lost Gino. Gino's gone. But I think Pennix is going to be the new Gino where game to game it's just going to be like fucking it's like when we go to Bianco's

and he's like I've created a new pizza. I'm just going to bring it out. It's like anything's possible. Oh, this is like your olive artichoke pizza. I don't know if I like this. Oh my God. You did pepperoni and sun dried tomatoes. Right.

I just think that's Pennix. I bet on Bianco. much faster than I do penics. I mean, I had it today, too. I don't blame you. This is the most theft-up team, maybe even for years now, right? Yeah.

Like they, all right, the first game was legit. The kicker missed a field goal, and we're used to that, right? They lost the Tampa Bay. Then they beat up Minnesota on the night game, the Sunday night. Shut out by Carolina. You just get a completely different team every week. Yeah. You just have to assume

they're the zigzag team. Yeah. They should call them the pits because it's like the drama of one to start Kyle Pitts. It's the new drama. The Pitts scored a touchdown. He's definitely have to bench. He's been doing stuff this season.

I know. The funniest thing with the Falcons is Washington scores cut it to seven. Falcons come back down and now they're in the mode where it's like they can either go for the kill get a touchdown or probably settle and take it easy, kick a field goal. It's like three minutes left less.

So they play it easy and they're playing for a field goal and because it's the Falcons you just assume something horrible. going to happen. And I was trying to think of any other team, maybe the Chargers and the AFC is like that because they have that juju too. But just like, I was just like, oh, this is definitely getting blocked.

This is going to be a tie game. Like you just go to your mind with the Falcons goes to the worst case at all times. This time they kicked the field goal they won. But weren't you thinking the same thing? It's like, oh, it's the Falcons. They're going to fuck this up. And they also look so much faster. I know you don't like speed or anything, but don't they look faster at home on

their turf? Like I see Bejohn and I see London. I'm like, these guys should be scoring every single game. Instead, they settle for field goals and with guys they caught two weeks left. I wish we knew how fast each guy was going. You hate that. It's going to be a madden rating soon enough. Could darno, Mooney get to 20 miles an hour? I'm on the edge of my seat. Toby later. A couple more quick

things. Flacco is six picks. The Browns are pretty boring to watch offensively, even though they have some decent weapons because that Judkins guy might actually be good. Can they just make Shadora the starter for content. Like, do that for us. Like, we all need it. The TV, the daily TV shows need it. The podcast need it. It gives like,

anecdotally, we have stuff. Like, just just do it. I have to see how fast it runs first. No, I think you're right. Yeah, for sure. Can you get to like 19 miles an hour? If you can get to 19 miles an hour, we'll give you the ball. You get the game ball. He should race Joe Flacco.

Flacco was weird because his first two starts, he dropped back like 90 times, right? Like, oh, we're going to see like a poor man's Baker Mayfield here, right? And maybe it'll work and maybe it won't. But, yeah, well, if they're not scoring in Detroit or against these other teams, it's not good. Well, that's the other thing with the miles an hour.

They never do it for the slow guys. Right. Like, Flacco chasing down somebody in interceptions, like Flacco, 13 miles an hour, pretty rough. That would be funny. They got to do that. People in their 80s do that. Yeah.

Oh, Pat's Panthers. This is my last thing for you. So remember we did this? We've done this the last couple of years where we try to figure out what's going to be the weirdest result of this season like at the end of the year when we're like, what happened that?

What was that? I think it might be Panthers 30 Falcon Zero. I think is going to go down as the weirdest game, right? Yeah, I'd think so too. Right. It's a tough one to be. The Panthers will end up with what, four or five wins and the Falcons should be

around seven or eight or nine, you know? Yeah, I think you're right. The Panthers are, I think it's going to be less than. that. The other one was who did that the Browns 13 Packers 10 might be up there too. We should keep track of this.

I don't know. Yeah, that's the last time the Packers didn't give up 50 points. Maybe. Who do you like in Dolphins, Jets, and Broncos Bengals tomorrow? You know, I have I let the Bundow pick for our Ringo 107. So we have the Bengals plus the points, but I'd be lying to you if I didn't

have Denver on a couple money line parlies to close out. Right? And then the other one I really don't know. I'm really not sure what the, this is a, this spells, someone could get fired. Maybe not coach. That's a Bianco mystery pizza game. Someone's getting demoted and a pizza slapped in their face from this game. Remember when Bianco brought out that market pizza and it was like the greatest thing,

either of us ever eating? What was it? That's what the corn? It was like all these vegetables on it. And it was like, we were just like, oh, it was like descended from the gods. I don't think Dolphins Jets is going to be like that. All right, we're going to take a break, and then we're going to get Guest the Lines.

Then we have to a couple other things, too. All right, guest aligns, buy weeks, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Chicago, Green Bag. We're finally at the byway. You're already getting sad that the season's almost over. We're only four weeks in a little bit. They don't need buys. Come on, everybody play every week for 12 months.

Well, the problem with this one is we're losing a couple entertaining teams this week. Yeah. You can feel it in the, in the lineup. So Thursday night, Rams Niners, good Thursday night game. That is a good one. In Los Angeles.

And I have the Rams by three. So this is two NFC West in a row on Thursday night. You have three, you're going to get this. I had two and a half. I believe it's three and a half unless it changed. It's three and a half. We should mention you won the first two weeks.

I won the next two weeks. I know. You're going to win this week. I'm so off. Really? I think so. My miles per hour way down this week. Probably the pizza. Yeah.

How much pizza have you had in Brooklyn? How many days have you been there? Got here Friday night. There's a place a half mile away that's excellent. And they're open to 1 a.m. So that's bad for me. Then went to Grimaldi's yesterday. And then walking back, our friend Tony says,

holy shit, there's an L&B right across the street from Grimaldi's. So we did the bang bang. And so, yeah, it's a lot. And so then I had another slice this morning. Yeah, it's not good. You may not see me again. This could be it. Hey, there's a London game.

The Vikings, they lost to Pittsburgh and they were told you can't leave now. You have to stay. We're taking your passports. And they're playing the Cleveland Browns who, can't really move the ball offensively. Right. But I think Carson Wentz is probably playing again. This is either three or three

and a half. I went back and forth. I did Vikings minus three. All right. I got it exact. I hit it three and a half is the answer. It went down from four and a half actually. This is rough. This is a rough defense is good. Like the Brown's defense if it's Carson Wentz again with all those

guys, if the center is missing and the right tackle is missing on the Vikings. That's going to be a lot of trouble for them because that Brown's front four is beastie. It's tough on the West Coast waking up for two bad quarterbacks, isn't it? Like if it's going to be Wentz and who went Flacko again?

That's why you got to do, this is when you do Shador this week. Yeah. Or even Dylan Gabriel. We could be like, oh, look how short he is. Sunday Marquis. I have Seahawks Bucks

is the best Sunday game. It's a good game. Here's the case. Every game the Bucks play, it goes down to the final three minutes. Baker's really fun. Bugow always makes fun play. I think Bucky Irving is a top five running back now, right?

Tremendous. So it's such great burst for him. Yeah, he's fucking incredible. And I like watching the Seahawks defense. I'm going to put, this is in Seattle. I'm going to say Seattle minus one and a half. Oh, it's Seattle. minus 3

and what did I have you moved it on me oh I had one and a half also so we tie so it's Seattle minus 3 Seattle minus 3 yep so Seattle's finally getting some respect yeah I guess it's a long

it's a shorter longer rest for them right Tampa Bay still injuries they are unbelievable they had two gigantic how long were the both their touchdowns at Bucca and like that so long and then two of the longest field goals we've ever seen. And they were right back

in that game. I was like kind of getting mad I had the Eagles. We both loved that Bucca. It was the only player prop bet I made was is over and it was like 680 yards or something. I probably have that by mid-October. Two watchables, not a good sign for us

for Sunday. Eagles, Broncos in Philadelphia. I mean, honestly, the Eagles might be banned from the watchables category if they don't get their shit together. You can't have a game where you have zero completions in the second half. Their fans are just furious constantly.

And it's like they have to have the game get to where there's somebody has a 17 point lead before they're interested in whatever the proceedings are. Can I make a, this is going to sound like bitter sound. It really, really is. There's no other way to describe it. If you're going for the tush push, you should have to declare you're going for the tush push. It shouldn't be an option that you could flip it back to the tailback who has nothing but daylight and runs it in.

It should be like the onside kick. We're going to get, let this lunacy fly. I didn't like that. I like it. Well, this line could move depending on how the Broncos look tomorrow night. But for the short term, it's in Philadelphia. And I have eagles by four. We split it.

I said five. it's four and a half. Come on, Denver. Play tough. Play tough here. Pretty important Bo Nix game tomorrow night. Yeah. Because if he sucks again,

that's an entire month of him sucking. Did you send a stat? Yeah, right. The stat that he, what was he, 35 out of 36 for the graded quarterbacks? Yeah, not great. The only other watchable game I have, which might not be watchable of Mariotas,

the QB is Chargers, Washington, and L.A. And I have the Chargers favored by three and a half, because I assume they was just playing. I went way high. I said five. I didn't even think about the Daniels thing. In my mind, he's out another week. But I guess he was almost ready Wednesday. You get it.

It's three. Chargers by three. This will be a nice little test for how many chargers, like our theory that the Chargers crowds are getting better. Yeah. because Washington old school NFC team there's a lot of transplants here I'm interested to see what the breakdown is but I've been impressed by the Chargers fan base yeah they could step up even further this week

fairly watchables I had to put Colts Raiders in here because you just know that game's going to be absolutely unhinged I'm prepared for anything I have put this in the had to put it in the Vegas zone Colts five and a half I said four and a half It's six and a half So you'll get that one I don't know I know we buried Gino here

But could you see this Stupid shit here I think this is where he needs to be Getting almost a touchdown on the road Is when he finally gets his sea legs Right He doesn't like these games Where they're either favored

Or they're minus one and a half He needs to be like a dog Yeah I think this is a let's be careful Do not put the Colts in a tease game would be my recommendation. I'm with you. Be careful of this.

I hope I stick to that. I think, you know, maybe Crosby, like, plants, Danny Dimes, Indiana Jones. What do we want to call him now? A couple times. Maybe he's like South Indiana Jones. Ravens home for the Texans with a bunch of injuries on the Ravens side. And Houston's defense threw a shutout today. Now, you said that counts in our league.

I didn't see points for it because I had the Houston. You start with 13 points. And if, well, you want a bonus also for getting that? We're playing each other in fantasy. Yeah. So if you get a bonus, you give up zero points. You give up zero points. If you get a shutout, I should get more points.

Not against the Titans. That's not, that's hard to leave it. There's like 10 shutouts. Is there five shutouts a year? How many? How many bonus points do you want? I think it should be like four points. Oh, it's a close game, too.

We have a close game. What do we have tomorrow? I think you're going to win anyway. I have Tyree. and you have two people. I do have two people. Sorry, let me pull it up here. Rividing content for the...

This is almost as... Can you do this as we figure out how fast you run? All right, you're up 11. You're going to... How am I favored here? You're up 11. You have Tyree Kill.

I have H.N. and Garrett Wilson. Oh. You're going to win. You're a favorite? I'm favored. They have H.N. projected for 16 points. That's stupid. Stop it, CBS.

Ravens, Texans in Baltimore have Ravens minus four. Wait, what do we say? Oh, Ravens minus four. Okay. Yeah, I said five and a half. It's seven. Oh. I don't agree with that at all.

Well, now it's a must win. Shit, they're both one and three, huh? Yeah, but the Texans have a good defense, though. Like, as ugly as their offenses, their defense can hang around. last one is Lions Bengals it's in Detroit and I think I think they add the half point on this

I was going to say seven but I think they bump it I think it's seven and a half Detroit I was way way off on this it's eight and a half I said I said five and a half so you said seven

yeah you get it four perfecta games yep Giants at Saints with no neighbors it's a bad one and yet I think it'll I might make a multi-view for me

has anyone pointed their flag on the Saints or Fun Corner because they were fun in this Buffalo game that's all you you could have that one you know I thought that too I mean you said they went up and down the field how many passing yards you think

Rattler had is it was it an optical illusion what was it 126 126 and they were playing catch up the whole time How many did they rush for? I don't know. I think Kamara had a decent day, but to say that, like, Rattler,

I don't get the team that I'm watching there. Yeah. I mean, in my defense, I'm watching six TVs at once. And every time I looked on the right TV, it seemed like they're moving the ball. They were getting closer, yeah. Jets Cowboys. I don't think we did the Giant Saints.

I have Giants one and a half. Oh, you're jerks. I had Giants by two. It is one and a half. It is that tick-tac. Well, if they're going to win one game, the Saints, this has got to be it, isn't it? This should be one of the ones you have circled. I don't think they're favored in any other game.

Not that they're favored in this one, but this has got to be the closest. Giants Pass Rush, Scada bow. Has Damashek tried to pronounce his name yet? Scadabo! Scadabot! And then in a Jackson Darts scramble, I think that's enough for the Giants. Right. I wouldn't bet that game.

Jets home for the Cowboys. Wow. So I'll keep my guess. I don't know if the Cowboys tonight swung it, but I had Jets minus one and a half. No, I think you're, yeah. I had Cowboys minus one and a half. It's two and a half.

Cowboys favor. Yeah. Yep. I should have changed that, but I was trying to keep what I had before. Cowboys two and a half. Wow, we tied that game. I was just about to go through my, we lost, we're coming off a loss, but we tied.

We actually tied that game tonight. Like, shit. It was like a moral victory for Jerry. This is another poop fact of the game, Dolphins, Panthers in Carolina. Woo! Um, I think the dolphins have to be favored by three, and that's where I landed. That's exactly what I have, and I'm looking. They're a favor by one and a half.

oh, how the Miami's had fallen. That is brutal. That's the worst team in the league and they're favored by one and a half over them. McMillan was open a lot against the Pats today. And Bryce did not find him that often.

And he was starting to get that Larry Fitzgerald late, early 2010's body language. Right. Remember when Fitzgerald had bad quarterbacks for like five years in a row? Yeah. He'd just be open and then the ball would like sail that way. There was a couple of those of McMillan.

today and he was like oh my god really last poop fact of cards titans in arizona and uh amazingly this has to go over seven and i think it uh i think it has to be seven and a half for a man i was way off on this i said five and a half i was not impressed at arizona it's nine and a half yeah i think i think that's the price for the titans that's too high though Arizona should not be favored by that many against anybody. That's unbelievable. I mean, it's just they don't trust the kid on the road. Is that it?

I mean, Kyler was not impressive for two hours and 20 minutes of that game. I saw there was something online about Ryan Clark five years ago was arguing about Kyler Murray versus Lamar Jackson. Oh, wow. And he was like way in on Kyler Murray. And he was like, let me tell you something. and Kyle Murray will win a Super Bowl before Lamar Jackson. Mark my words

and was all in and I was thinking like that's a bad one to have but we all have those. Sure. Those ones where it's like what and it's like oh my God I can't put it. What's your worst one? Because that's got to be his worst one. You know I said Bill is too manly

to ever drink hot water with a lemon and now I look freaking foolish. I don't know. That's a good question. Just like you're saying The player is going to be great, and he didn't turn out. Because I have some bad ones in print, but I don't know. We could just go to Reddit.

We could just go to Reddit and find out our answers. I was trying to think what's my single worst one. But I think since I've been on video, I think it's James Wiseman that that was a great, a great pick for the Warriors and really liking that pick. Right. I think that might be my single worst one. It might be a basketball. Yeah, it'll have to be a basketball one.

This would be a great podcast where each, each episode, somebody just comes in and they go over their most regrettable take they've ever had. Right, right. I like that. Did James Wiseman win you over? My James Wiseman pick. I had a borderline talking about Mac Jones, but I didn't really come out and say it. That I thought he was like a, I was like skirting like that he was a possible MVP candidate if they were good. But we always

say that anytime we think so you didn't buy the jersey. You didn't buy the jersey. So you helped back. I think Wiseman I think is my least favorite one. Yeah, I have to think of mine. All time, I've had some worse, though, in the column. Would it be basketball? But most of them would be basketball? Mostly basketball, like draft ones.

There was a Dame lowered Austin Rivers one. That was pretty bad. They should take in Austin Rivers. There was like a Mecca Okafore versus Dwight Howard. I think I took team OkaFour. Yeah, it's all right. We talk a lot about this stuff. We're not going to about a thousand.

Well, it's like saying, I never had a bad meal. What was the worst meal you ever had? Like, oh, yeah, you got to have to eat. It's going to happen. Sunday night. Bill's Patriots in Buffalo. Let's do it. Let's fucking go. I really think the paths can hang in this game.

I think they're going to jack the line. I think this can be bills minus eight and a half. Wow. Look at you go. Bill's minus eight and a half is right. I said seven. I thought they put it in that good. You know, the decent difference between division foes,

but it had to be seven, but eight and a half is, that's up there. You think it's fair? No, I think, I don't think the bills, I think that's a lot of, like, people that haven't watched the two teams the last couple weeks. Pats have a good special teams. Pats can block. Pat's defense is okay. I didn't like how open McMillan was, but, you know,

you're on a Sunday night against Josh. one. It's a pretty tall task. But I think they can hang around in that game. More because of the bills. Like, think about Bill's opening week against Baltimore, where Baltimore is one and three, and then go through all Detroit, like they couldn't stop them. I don't think their defense can

you know, I just don't think the defense is good. I don't want to read into this one too much. Maybe the Saints is tough to get up for. Cook is Cook's turned into a monster, too. I wouldn't have them top five, but probably top seven, top eight range for

running backs. He's fun. He moves the chains. There's no more chains anymore, but he moves them. You think he can get to 21 miles an hour? I haven't checked. I have to see. Does he have like a 21 and a half in him maybe? That tush push for Hertz was only

0.4 miles an hour. What fun football. Monday night, really good game. Probably the best game of the Sunday Monday. Chiefs at Jags. Nice little tester for the Jags. Three and one. Chiefs two and two the chiefs are obviously going to be favored and I put this in the tic-tac zone

that chiefs minus one and a half yeah I said three and a half it is three oh you win that one um you won the week though that was seven for me and like 10 for you three in a row not good chiefs minus three that's a little high we're going to take jacksville on a teaser that's I'm just saying that's a little high yeah it's reactioner for sure. Interesting that the chiefs were plus two and a half against Baltimore at home. But now they're minus three at Jacksonville. But I don't think Baltimore is better than Jacksonville right now, do you?

Right. No, I don't. I will say if they're thriving with the turnover, Jacksonville, as Mahomes is a little smarter. And I know some of these can be freak turnovers, but as Mahomes is a little smarter and more careful, you don't see him not going to be. Free three.

Yeah, you bet the Jags, and then at some point you realize you bet Trevor Lawrence over Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, right. And you feel really stupid. Mm-hmm. Yeah. All right. Just stay away. All right.

Let's take one more break, and then we got to talk about baseball and Ryder Cup and Brooklyn Quick. All right, baseball. So the murder of the Mets season, they were just, it was like while you were sleeping, and the Mets were just Peter Gallagher waiting to wake up. and the Mets fans were going there every day to go see him, and then the Mets just died. I didn't see a movie. There was no happy ending. Not watching it.

Yeah. That sucked. I mean, just the way it all went down, you let the Marlins beat you and shut you out, and they take a team picture, like they just won the NLCS. Like, it was disgusting. It's not how I thought it would go.

I thought we would blow out the Marlins today, and the Reds would win in the last inning, you know, and then the Cowboys would get killed, and that would be my day. But it said the Mets lost and the Cowboys tied. Yeah, right. I wonder what that would have paid. I mean, they were almost the first team to have a losing record after being 20 plus games over 500.

It's one of the most disappointing seasons of my life here. Like, you know, especially with like Soto, 43 homers, 105, he almost had 40 stolen bases. Pete, 38, 112. Like, where is it? Like, we have one pitcher with 10 plus wins. And I get it where teams, if you root for the pirate. that they never spend money, but there's something to be said about a team

that spends $341 million. I know you get to watch great players perform well sometimes, but when you never win a World Series, it's like it feels like that attempt to compete is futile, right? How much would we have to spend? I hate it. I hate it all. 40 years for you. Yeah.

Yeah, 86. It'll be 40. the thing is if they made the playoffs do you think they would have won four straight rounds and won the World Series? No, so that was the thing. So going into the weekend, I'm like, all right, what are we going to do? Went three against the Marlins

and then two out of three against, we're going to win five out of six in the next week. So, yeah, it's probably better just to not watch them. Well, my team made it. You're psyched. Which makes no sense

because we traded our best player. And then our new best player who was fucking awesome, Roman Anthony. gets hurt, misses the last month this season. I don't think he's going to be available for, it certainly doesn't seem like he's going to be available this week. I think Hensh said we've used 35 pitchers.

Wow. We had 10 of the worst losses you can imagine and somehow finished 89 and 73. And now we're playing the Yankees. And we have Crochet, who's an absolute fucking beast, who's the best picture in the American League. I'm surprised you're an underdog. I'm looking at that now.

You're an underdog in that game? In the game one we're an underdog? Yeah. He's plus 112. Oh, wow. Max Free. Yeah. I think the key is if they can win game one

and it's just a crochet and Chapman game and they don't use Whitlock and they can save Whitlock for game two, I think they can win the series. If they have to use all those guys for game one, I think that gets really tough. Nabeo hasn't looked as good the last, I would say the last probably month or so.

He's the game two guy. The Yankees have more talent. I mean, the Red Sox have just lost too many people. I just wish we had Anthony. If we had Anthony, I would be like heads up. A lot of these don't go three games, you know? They just go to two. So this is so huge crochet pit.

I'm really surprised that he's an underdog. And like, you know, I say to JJ, John Shremski, he was a Yankee fan. I'm like, is it really a home the Yankees have home field advantage much anymore like bro I'd much rather play this game in Yankee Stadium

than I'm like yeah yeah no I get it but I don't I think this is a this is definitely a winnable game for you game one well they're starting two lefties in a row and I actually like when we go against lefties that Schlittler

really scares me I'm kind of hoping we don't see him and have you seen him? Yeah, a little bit of them, yeah. I had him on, Hensh and I had him on our A.L. Keeper team, too. Like, he was a legitimate stud. I thought for sure they would pitch him at home in game two, but maybe the day's rested and worked. So they got, Radon is doing game two against Bayo. Anyway, I'm trying, I already have my guard up because the Yankees, I just think have a

better team. And if the Red Sox lose, we just point to the Devers trade and we, and Anthony being hurt and Kastas got hurt in the first month this season and we're like, ah. But if we beat them, it's so embarrassing for them. Oh, yeah.

With like Ruff Snyder, like these, I mean, it's like Nathaniel Lowe who basically picked up off waivers playing first base. Like that would be a crazy loss by them. You're in great shape if you win that first game. Yeah, Yankees minus 178 for the series.

Who do you think is going to win the World Series? Uh, you know what? I'm going to, I'm going to say. Or am I stepping on your Tuesday podcast? No, yeah, let me think about it, but it's going to take, it's still going to take, even though their relief pitching is really faltered, it's going to take a lot to knock the Dodgers off, I think. I don't think they have the relievers.

I don't think they have the relievers. Yeah. Everybody goes two innings, though, on these. Remember, you're looking at different baseball here. I mean, what the Tigers did, it would have been so much better if there were no wild cards. That would have been maybe the biggest collapse of our life. They were up 10, 12 games at the end of August.

I know. I thought the best team I saw, the best team the Red Sox played all year was the Padres, just from watching them. And they just kept bringing these guys in and threw a hundred miles an hour. They lost one of them after we played them. But I was...

Are you talking about speed? That's something that we're not. You asked, like, what kind of kick would impress me? Guys throw 102 now and we don't even The broadcasters don't even mention it at all Yeah the socks They have the best starter in the series They have a really good setup guy

And a really good closer But I don't trust the lineup I think I'd be surprised That they beat the Yanks Even with the crochet piece But I'm excited at baseball It's fun Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday?

A couple years. Yeah. I like that. It's three in a row, too. Four games. Come out of three o'clock there. Are you going to be able to see anything? Or you're doing the, you're there for Jimmy's show.

Yeah, I'm there. Someone offered me, too, because I'm not watching those dumb teams. But, yeah, you get the Dodgers and Red Sox, Yankees get the night slots, Tuesday, Wednesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. How much rider cup did you follow? A lot until today. I really didn't watch. I was so, like, you know, I bet Europe.

I listen to how. House is going to pretend he's upset about the Americans. He had Europe. He's so not upset. He had so much Europe money. Have you ever had a friend like a bet for so long and it worked? Like I think in February he was talking about Europe winning the Ryder Cup. He kept putting more on it.

It was like listening to somebody who loved AI stock in like 2020, who just kept buying more of it. Yeah. And then he had to pretend he was really upset that America showed. So I didn't have it on. I had the six games on. Yeah. It was actually seven, but I had a split screen and didn't have the rider on until, at some point, it was like, hey, I think my dad text to me.

So then I put it on. And there was a moment where it seemed like they really had a chance. Like when Henley was up one heading into the 18th and it felt like he was going to just take it. And everything else is pretty even. You start doing the math. They're like, holy shit. but then Shane Lowry

my biggest problem with the Ryder Cup is most of my favorite golfers were on the European team. Yeah, which I think a lot of people feel that way. I love Roy McElroy. I really like Shane Lowry.

They can't get dual citizenship. I like John Robb. Yeah. I even like Victor Hovlin. But the only guy I really liked in the American team is JJ Spahn. Yeah. He's your favorite American golfer.

Well, Scott, he's so much fun to watch. He don't know. He's not right. He's fine. I didn't really like him on Friday and Saturday when he went off or 4th. Thomas was good. He had Thomas had a good one.

You would have gotten killed, betting Sheffler Friday and Saturday. Like everything, he was like minus 180, but it wasn't always his fault with the pairings, but that's where all the money went for sure. Oh, my favorite guy, Fleetwood. That was another guy on the European team.

Yeah, you like, I just, I was, so I was like pushing again. I didn't end up betting anything on it. The fans were brutal. I had no idea. I read afterwards, but they did it in Rory and, Like, Rory, like, going into the weekend was good nature.

Remember that heckler was like, hey, Rory. He was like button in his shirt. He's like, Rory, you don't need a button to choke. And he's like, oh, good one. And he's like, oh, good one. And he's like, fuck you. These guys are all looking at these guys. Jane Lowry.

They're screaming and fuck off at everybody. Like a big bear, like screaming at these fans. And then, yeah, it's, yeah, I don't think it's, I was saying, like, people like, oh, no, you have to have so much money to enter these events. You're not going to get the wise ass typical New Yorker. But it turned out you did. You're wise asses that got lucky with hedge funds. That's all it is.

They have enough money and just screaming their heads off. Well, you know what the great equalizer was. It was alcohol. Oh, yeah. Like maybe they weren't wise asses at 9 in the morning. Right. Baby doll went. Speaking of.

Our beloved, he was there on Saturday and left early. I couldn't find out if he helicoptered in and out. I think he just rode the smoke from his side. Cigarettes over. Yeah. That's a good question. No, well, he lives like 20 minutes from there. Okay, so he drove it?

Yeah, yeah. Baby, I helicoptered anyway. Before we do Parent Corner, should we do Aging Corner after Parent Corner? Or we want to do Parent Corner first? Are we really going to, is that going to be our bombshell? The aging corner? Yeah, we'll do a bombshell later.

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He cuts Harrison's hair too and Jagg, my son's and Archie when he's around. And he says to me, he's like, hey, I hear Harrison wants to be a Cowboys fan. And I was like, what? He's like, yeah, he's going to be, he's a Cowboys fan. I'm like, oh, holy shit. I was really, like, stunned by this, you know? Because, like, he was always like, whoever won the Chiefs when he was young, seven or eight, now he was 12.

He really has, it's all fantasy, you know? But this year, like, C.D. Lamb, he was rooting for him, I noticed. But I thought it was just because he had him on fantasy the first two weeks. And then I'm like, I got to get out of this barber chair. Like, we could stop. this now. I have to get home to talk to this kid. My hair is going to look like shit in six days anyway. So let's just, it's not Graham's fault. It's my bad hair. So I'm like, hey, I say to Harris. I'm like, what's going on? Graham told me you want to be a Cowboys fan. He's like,

yeah, I am a Cowboys fan. I was like, I don't think this is good. I don't want you to do this. And he's like, I want to do it. I want to be a Cowboys fan. I said, why? He's like, because you're my dad. And that was like a real Cosby show moment. But I was like, no, I want to. Wow, the crowd like got silent and then it started plotting. Oh, a little slow clap, yeah. You're like Uncle Phil? I said, hey, I want to talk to you about this when I get back from Brooklyn. He says, am I in trouble? I was like, yeah, only if you make this terrible decision. You're in trouble for the rest of your life. I'm like, why can't you be a Chargers fan? We live 10 minutes away and they need fans. And, you know, I feel like this, I'd be doing something good for L.A. So, I mean, I really just,

I really, really don't want this for him. I feel like I'm like running a business where I sell fax machines and I haven't sold one in like 25 years and he's like I want to do that too like no no I want better for my kid but what do I do I need advice here do I continue to push other teams on him does he have to have a football team to be a big sports fan I think it would be fun if he was a cowboys fan oh man you have another person to complain about the cowboys with it just eats me alive it's because it's not it's not a fun oh look what they did tonight although tonight was fun but I don't know man

I don't know what I'm going to do I may not allow this I was thinking about what you just said made me think about before the Red Sox won I think I wrote a column about how after the Aaron Boone Homer about passing the Red Sox to my kids

how I wasn't going to do it and now the irony is neither of my kids care about baseball we don't even have a team anyway But in 2003, it seemed conceivable. But yeah, you feel like you're giving them this burden. It's like you're giving them like a, you know, some sort of disability. Yeah.

And it doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be that way. You could root with your friends for the Chargers. Do that, please. So my parent corner, there's a Starbucks that when we moved to LA was near the house that that we were renting and it was basically like near where

Tarantino's New Beverly Cinema was it's on Detroit Street and used to be it was like the walkable Starbucks to wear this house were running and it was the Starbucks that I was walking to right before the Yankees

Red Sox series in 2004 ironically went a bird shit on my shirt and I wrote a whole piece about how, because the Italians, like, bird shits good luck. So I was, and I was like about to write my Red Sox Yankees preview, and I was walking with

my wife and her brother and the bird shit as I was thinking about the, and I was like, this is good luck. So went into the thing, and I wrote this whole thing about it on page two. So the same Starbucks that when my wife was giving birth to my daughter, Zoe, I just, told this story in the pod and she went in a labor and then she wasn't in labor and then two days later she thought she might be again and we were going there in the morning and I stopped at the Starbucks and got a coffee because I was like, ah, you're probably not having the kid. I need my coffee. Went in the coffee, saw this 902 and O actress that was in there, came out.

I was like, you're not going to leave us in there. And Carrie's like, drive! Because she felt like, and she's still mad about it. She's been mad about it for 20 years. She threw her the heel out of your face? It was, it was. From last week. Yeah, it was Lucinda from season four, 902. And I was in there. And I'm like, you're not going to leave by song.

She's like, drive. So anyway, she is coming home and she's stopping because she's coming from that direction. And she texts, do you want to, you want me to get you an ice coffee? And I'm like, yeah, yeah. So she comes home and she's like, I had to get it from somewhere else. That Starbucks closed. the one on Detroit, the one we went to. And then she's like, remember the one where I was about to give birth to Zoe?

And you were more excited that you rent. And we had a whole thing about the, it was still there, 21 years later. Still bad about the Starbucks. Anyway, a lot of memories. Bird shit, labor. I used to write columns at that Starbucks every once in a while. Now it's just gone. Oh, that's too bad.

And Lucinda was a barista recently. there. He probably was. Wait, I have to ask, did you, when the bird's shit on you, did you go in the Starbucks and write the column right then? No. I went in. I thought you sat there with the bird shit on.

I went in. The guy actually noticed the thing because we were talking about. He's like, what is that on your shirt? And I was like, I need a napkin, but. Right. And we had this whole debate about whether I should wipe it off, whether it was good luck. I ended up wiping off, but then not washing the shirt,

which is pretty psychotic. That's a good fantasy punishment. Someone should have to wear that shirt. Turn out to be good luck. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Anyway, that's Paracornor.

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I would go to these, I would leave the house and go to these different places around L.A. And that was one of the go-to ones. But when I see these places now, I just think of like all these hundreds of hours I just spent with my head down, like fucking, you know, typing. What is it? What did it turn into the Starbucks? They just closed it. I don't even know what it's going to be. But you could buy it if it means that much.

No, it's sentimental. It's nice. It's like memorabilia. I don't even know if it's sentimental. My wife got mad all over again. Then I stopped for a coffee there. It's like the opposite of sentimental. Needed the coffee.

It was the morning. What was it going to do? Sentimental case. Should we do aging corner really fast? I guess so. I don't know what. we think we can get away with here, but all right, yeah. So the big controversy, our cousin Jimmy's back in the air.

Triumphant Week for him. We went to the show on Tuesday. It was great. It was great to see everybody. It was emotional, the whole thing. And he's back. Now he's in Brooklyn doing his show. But his agent, our beloved James Baby Doll Dixon, as all of this stuff was happening

in the week before had a wedding in Martha's Vineyard and was handling his whole side remotely and that turned into a big topic for us whether he should have flown back or not. And you're going to be shocked to know that he did not appreciate the discourse about whether he should have flown back or not. And was, dare I say, defensive

for one of the only times I remember. Like when we were really busting his balls on Tuesday in Jimmy's office, yeah um seemed seemed almost a little rattled about it so it was me what was your take me you and lewis and uh i don't know how much we can you talk but erin uh the ep it's a bunch of people there yeah yeah there was like five of us and we're all giving them shit about it and so what does he do he turns his attentions to me and starts getting which i'm i'm fine with because you know and it was varying degrees of we're just screwing with you baby to hey we're angry where the hell were you

kind of thing, right? So he, of course, is very defensive about it. But not so much that he just took off and left for the Rider Cup, like, right, the very next day. So he's fine. He was like, I'm here, aren't I? This was a day back, yeah. But then left, left the next day. So he technically did come back.

Right, right, right. But I don't know. I still don't, I need, I kind of need more information. I wish there was a reporter covering Baby Doll. because I want to know what the wedding was. Who was the wedding? What do we know about the wedding that he couldn't leave? One of his daughter's friends, very dear, sweet, sweet kid.

I couldn't miss this. No, I'm not missing that wedding. But he claimed he was putting in 20 hours a day remotely. Working on trying to get. During the whole saga. Did you believe that? I mean, he doesn't sleep, so that is conceivable. I don't believe it unless he's on, I mean, first of all, he shows up.

He's so dark. looks like Wesley Snipes when we see him, you know? And it's like, I don't think he's doing 20 hours of anything, but like sunbathing, like Polly Walnuts. Yeah, he's 20 hours, but then he's also talking about how good his swing is. Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah. We love you, baby.

I don't know. We just need some answers there. It's, it was just, we get in trouble. Well, you. You have to see him for the next five days. Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. I'm going to get in trouble.

I'm 3,000 miles away. I'm not going to get any trouble. Who knows if I'll see him? I don't know what he shows up to him. But the important thing is he did show up for Tuesday after all the drama had been settled. He was there. Yeah, I'm there when it counts, baby. Now, my boy Carson is doing something for the Budweiser light tent.

I got to get the hell out of here. Off to Beth Page. Maybe he's like, like Tom Hayden, maybe he's a peacetime, conciliary, like Tom and the Godfather. Oh, yeah. All right. Maybe he's not like Janko. Like, Janko is a wartime conciliary. I like that.

I mean, his way is usually just to scream until he gets his way. But that wasn't the deal this time. I did not appreciate that you talked about this on the podcast. This was private business. You know, leverage-wise,

this is not good for me, baby. Shit. Maybe we run this. by Lewis to see if a fair well leverage wise it was a it was a it all worked out somehow

yeah that's right and now we have this Brooklyn week and good times all the way around good week of shows very happy to have Jimmy Kimmel back on the TV anything you had to plug this week yeah

Tate and I are going to talk college on Tuesday big wins for Bama and Oregon those were fun go Ducks House and DeBundo on Wednesday House. Again, I got to... He endorsed my bet. Europe to win between one and three

plus 400. So that's my claim to fame for the weekend. Thank you, House. Did you like Dante Moore, by the way? Because McShay was on here on Thursday. And he said that was his favorite QB. And then I watched a bunch of that game. You didn't like him? No, I liked it. I thought he was good. All different arm angles.

That was the toughest... I mean, what's tougher a place to win than that? I don't know. Maybe Penn State isn't great. But that was a... He showed some grit. It's great when you win those games in the other team's stadium and college football when it just goes completely silent. Right.

Yeah. When it's like, and then it's like it's almost like a pin gets shoved into the stadium. But that was one of those wins where it was just. Walk off interception, right? Yeah, that was great. And then Friday, the bundo in high fits with me and Todd Morinovich will join us. He has a bookout.

Good time. We'll try to find out more information about Baby Dawn. We'll get a lot of trouble for this. We'll do Agent Corner. I can get a sponsor next week for Aging Corner. All right, let's do it. I know you're way far away drinking hot water with lemon, and he's going to lambast me for five straight days here.

I can't wait. I can't wait for the stories. Because good job by you. Good job by you, buddy. All right, that's it for the podcast. Thanks to Sal. Thanks to Eduardo and Gahou as well. Don't forget, new rewatchables coming Monday night.

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