The Bill Simmons Podcast - A Steelers/Vikings Party Crash, Miami’s Vice, the Blackjack Browns, and Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal

Episode Date: September 23, 2024

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss the Chiefs pulling out another win, this time vs. the Falcons, and whether to believe in the Steelers and the Vikings (1:47). Plus, which 2023 playoff teams are in the most trouble, updated playoff predictions for each conference (16:41), Lions-Cardinals, Saints-Eagles, Texans-Vikings, and Buccaneers-Broncos (47:38). Then they guess the lines for NFL Week 4 (1:07:19) and close the show with Parent Corner (1:32:25). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producer: Kyle Crichton The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Sunday night, just watched the Falcons lose by five to the Chiefs. I have good news, though, Sal. Mm-hmm. What is it? I don't know if you know this, but the Bill Simmons podcast has a ring of honor. And tonight's a very special night because I have inducted myself into the ring of honor. Is it positive or negative? What kind of ring? It's a very special night because I've inducted myself into the ring of honor. Is it positive or negative? What kind of ring? It's a positive ring of honor.

And the inductee tonight is me, Bill Simmons of the Bill Simmons pod. Did you see Arthur Blank at halftime? I guess I'm guessing. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, is that what he said? He inducted himself? Arthur Blank at halftime. It was a ceremony.

He made the Falcons ring of honor. It was like, tonight we're honoring Arthur Blank, the owner. How does he decide to do this? And then the broadcast just glossed over it. He put himself in the ring of honor. They're kind of egomaniacs, some of these guys. I don't know. I think they figured if I'm not going to get a Super Bowl, I have to at least get in our own ring of honor, right? He's like, I'll never forget the day I went down on the sidelines when we were up late in the fourth quarter of the Superbowl and it didn't happen. Uh,

that was quite a game. I don't know what to make of the officiating with the chiefs, although they started throwing some flags in the last drive, the game management with the Falcons, they had third and short on the last drive there inside the 30, uh, just a terrible predictable run up the middle gets stuffed. Fourth down, the pitch to the left, that seems to never work,

and all of a sudden the Chiefs win. That was a recurring theme today, that nobody could convert on short yardage. What's happened to the NFL? I don't know. I have a lot of problems, and I feel so bad about this. I was waiting all summer, and I was so excited about the NFL, and it's just not ready for us. We're ready for it, and it's not ready for us. It's like planning like a two-day Vegas trip with your buddies. And then it's like cut in half because the plane has mechanical issues.

And then the weather's delayed. You can't catch another flight. So yeah, the weeks, you know, six through 17, it'll be fine. But for now, between the, first of all, no explosive play. Okay, I'll take no explosive plays, but if someone can convert on fourth and one. Like, there was an epidemic. I felt like there was

14 plays today where it was like fourth and one, fourth and two, fourth and three, and they weren't even close. Like, even the tush push, the fake tush push

didn't work, even though they won. But, yeah. But somehow, I don't know. Somehow, everybody could make a 60-yard field goal, but nobody can make

fourth and six inches. Right. You're much better off just going backwards 25 yards and attempting a 60-yarder. The coaching's so bad, too. I don't know. I don't want to be negative.

We haven't even gotten to my awful team yet. But, I mean, you know, those early games, would it be bad if we just skipped the early games? There's like 10 teams that have seven points at halftime.

I don't need like 40 to 38, but just ineptitude all around. The way you laid out what you were laying out there made me think of when you go to a restaurant and it's friends and family night. And where it's like, but before the restaurant's open, they have like that week where it's like, hey, can you come in? We're trying some stuff out. We want to see if the wait staff works. And you go and there's a lot of mistakes

and they're apologizing all the time, but the food's pretty good. And you're like, oh, I can see the potential of this place. Yeah, once they work out the kinks, it'll be great. That's basically the first three weeks in the NFL season. It's like, oh, it'll be cool when they can start completing long passes to the receivers and not fucking up late. I mean, the Eagles won a game today where their coach was a crime against coaching and still somehow won. The Falcons lost the game where their coaching staff was just as bad.

The Bears coach was somehow the worst coach of the day, which I don't even know how that happens. But I guess let's start with Chiefs Falcons really quick. So this is why we took over on the Chiefs. What was it, 11 and a half wins? Because they just win. This is the third straight game. They could literally be 0-3 with a couple plays, and they're 3-0, and this is what they do.

And we're just used to it at this point. But this does not feel like a 3-0 team, right? No, but I am so glad the Falcons got another shot at it after that. First of all, I have friends, Hench, and there's some others who just are waiting for the referees to screw up, and it's bad. And I still think everything should be reviewed. Like that pass interference on Pitts, he got grabby. He didn't turn around. It should have been pass interference. Then again, it was a bad pass.

If not for the pass interference, that's intercepted or they go out on down. So anyway, okay, good. They get the ball back and then they don't do anything. And they're helped, like you said, by the officials. But yeah, that's it, man.

You're right. Like it's going to come down to it and they're going to pull out the close ones. And that's that. But they're not a complete team. Like, I don't know if that there's one complete team. That's why I kind of have hope with my team. And you should even with yours

because there's not one complete team at the top. Like the Vikings. Like, fast forward to the part where the Vikings aren't the most complete team in the league. That's when I want to join it. It is crazy. Well, let's talk quickly in the Chiefs. The the Rishi Rice fantasy rope a dope before the year.

What did he go for? It was like 10 bucks. Yeah. Like, I don't know, 12, 13. Garrett Wilson's going for 44. Drake London's going for the 30s. Everyone's afraid to take Rasheed Rice because nobody can tell if he's going to be suspended for the season,

if there's some possible suspended Goodell sentence out of nowhere. And yet he's the go-to guy in this offense that he's just going to kick ass the entire time. So that was frustrating. Carson Steele, who was who we thought he was, he just was basically going down on the first or second tackle. But they told this story about his sister got married today. Did you hear this part?

Yeah, today. She didn't have to though, right? Well, they were like, he's a groomsman of the wedding, but he obviously can't come, but they're having a big party for, uh, we had, they had the game on and they, they made these arrangements a year earlier. And it was the day, the only day they could get at the venue they wanted. I'm thinking that nobody brought up this guy might be in the NFL and might not be able to come. This guy's in the chiefs. Well, maybe. They're getting married on a Sunday? Even worse, maybe they did bring it up and Carson himself was like, hey, sis, there's a chance

I'm wearing Chiefs jersey on Sunday. And then they point and laugh. Right. Just make sure you cut your hair for the wedding. There's just no way. They're on time. Okay, here's my next question. Do you believe

in the Steelers and the Vikings yet? I believe they maybe are playoff teams. No, I don't even believe. I don't even know if I believe that. I can't believe in it. I still believe. Okay, here's what I believe in. I believe there's going to be a time when quarterback position matters.

I believe we're going to get there, and I think it's going to be this year. So this season, the quarterback position is going to matter a time when quarterback position matters. I believe we're going to get there, and I think it's going to be this year. So this season, the quarterback position is going to matter at some point? I think so, in a positive way. Good ones that we know of and ones that can throw down field are going to thrive, and that's going to

translate into wins, even 10 or more. So I can't say I believe just yet. Let's take the Steelers first. Okay. True or false, their defense is better than anyone else's anything. Yeah. Anyone else's anything?

Their defense is better than anyone else's defense or offense. Just taking that unit, is that the best unit anybody has right now? Sure. Yeah, we're not counting Cowboys kicking game. Yes, that's fine. It's the best. I have some stuff for him later.

Okay. All right. Um, they've given up 16 points total in three games. The Steelers, they had to go three, you know, in this stretch and they did.

Yep. Fields has 20 incompletions. He's 55 for 75 with only one turnover. So they're not constantly going three and out or turning the ball. So the defense is on the field the right amount of time and they're kicking the shit out of people. They kick the shit out of cousins week one today against Herbert. And I thought Herbert was really good in the, in the time he was in this, that's not going to show it, but they were in his face the whole time. He was making big throws. He was stepping up. I thought he was awesome. And then finally he got sacked by three guys at once and he was done and

he was out. But I am a full believer in the Steelers. I've been betting on them every week. They're 3-0. They have next few weeks at Indy, home Dallas, at Vegas, home Jets, home Giants, bye week. They have a real chance now to go seven and one. And you look around in the AFC and you look in their division and I kind of feel like they're the safest bet with the way Fields is playing. Do you believe in Fields at all at this point? What does that mean? Do I believe they'll make the playoffs?

They can make a long playoff run? I think they can win the division. Do I believe? Yeah, I think they could win this division. Because it's so lopsided. When we picked the one through four, I didn't want to touch this one. I whiffed anyway. I had the Browns. Forget it. I was wrong. Stupid.

Whatever. But the Ravens could be in last place too, if not for a couple plays. So, yes, the Steelers. But I believe that that defense is tops. There's no reason to think it's going to change if they stay healthy. But I also believe there's going to be games that they're going to have to score more than 20 points.

Maybe that and the way the season's being played. I guess. Maybe 20 points is enough. The Lions have 66 points. Yeah. Right? The Chiefs have been, Chiefs got to 22 tonight.

I really like how they look. I thought they got their run game going a little bit today and you know, I, what they did to Atlanta in week one, which we kind of came away from that game going, man, cousins doesn't look ready. He can't move. And then cousins is, I think looked a lot better in the last two games. So maybe they could say Bo Nix was a break, even though Bo Nix looked a lot better in the last two games. So maybe they could credit for that. You could say Bo Nix was a break, even though Bo Nix looked a lot better today, but you could say he wasn't ready. You know, that wasn't a game that they were going to win,

but yeah, now it's cousins. Now it's Herbert and they, they put them both down. The Vikings. So here's the case for the Vikings. Their defense. Yeah.

Teams are nine for nine at of 34 on third down against them. So it's like 26%. They've gotten six turnovers. Darnold has been really good on the other end. He's got eight touchdowns, two picks. Aaron Jones has been a step up from the running backs they have. And they're legitimately winning these games. They're a really well-coached team. You watch them and you're just like,

oh, we watched so much bad coaching on all these different TVs. And they're one of the teams that the sidelines locked in. The coaches seem like they have a game plan. They're attacking things a certain way. And they beat San Francisco and Houston back-to-back. I had those two in the top four heading into the season. a certain way. And they beat San Francisco and Houston back to back. I had those two in the top four heading into the season. So I think it's real. I didn't want to fully believe it until today.

I liked them today. I didn't love them, but I put them in a tease. But they absolutely throttled Houston. I mean, that was an absolute ass-kicking, you can take this game off the TV with an hour to go kind of performance. No doubt about it. They're like I said, they're the only complete team I see so far. Right.

Like they move the ball. You may not like Sam Darnold. You know what else you may not like about Sam Darnold? He's younger than Joe Burrow. He's younger than Joe Burrow. Like like age. If you were to ask their parents, like when was this one born? When was this one born? Darnold was born after Burrow. Like, like age. If you were to ask their parents, like, when was this one born?

When was this one born? Donald was born after Burrow. And the miraculous thing is like they, they had the worst off season out of anybody. They had two DUIs, one player, you know, one,

one coach, assistant coach, you know, Addison was one of them. Addison gets hurt. The third round pick dies. The first round pick quarterback tears his meniscus. He would have been like, oh boy, sorry coach. But yeah, you're right. This coach is great. And to your point, the Steelers may have

the best coach too, the top two or three coaches. I think there's four or five that have emerged as great. And then about 10 that are just like, they could be sent their walking papers any day. It's fun that the Vikings and Steelers are good too. Like some of the teams that are good this year, I'm like, oh, I'm happy for the, it's a lot of, I'm happy for those guys' teams. Sure. The Vikings definitely are one of those

where it felt like, especially once they lost a lot of their draft from April, you know, they have a top 10 pick and the guy doesn't even get to play in a regular season game. That's usually a terrible sign. I was just looking at their, the one thing is their schedule.

I guess it doesn't matter because they weren't supposed to beat, they weren't supposed to beat the Niners or the Texans either, but at Packers, it's a fun one. Jets, we're tough now. Lions at the Rams. Colts at Jaguars, you know, and then it gets a little bit,

then it gets like two or three easy. But if they're four and three after seven weeks, maybe we're not singing as many songs about them. I've decided to take myself out of the ring of honor for not having enough battery in my computer today and for having my mirror image the wrong way. I need to reevaluate. Maybe next week I'll put myself back. All right. There's a space in the ringer of honor. All right. What did people say to Arthur behind the scenes? Like, congratulations, man, you deserve it. I think you did it for yourself. You must've been nervous when you got that call. Oh no, wait, no. You're the one who said, yeah, you pushed it. Can Kimmel do this? Can he just

give himself an Emmy? I've decided to give myself the Emmy for best late night show. I mean, Jim will live. Here it is. Thank you. Thank you. I've won. Just take someone else's Emmy.

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conventional. Air fryers are pretty good. We do have an air fryer. My wife makes chicken in the air fryers. Yeah, everything. We throw one of the kids in there. Are they allowed to have them in college? Because it seems like it would be a great thing in college. Oh, I don't know. No crock pots. It's like a health hazard. All right.

New topic. Which 2023 playoff team is in the most trouble? I'll give you six choices. They're all one and two. The Miami Dolphins, the Dallas Cowboys, the Cleveland Browns, the San Francisco 49ers, the LA Rams, or the Baltimore Ravens. Who do you have?

Okay. I think, and I think you'll agree, the Dolphins are in a class by themselves because out of these six teams, they don't have the quarterback that they had in the 2023 playoffs. Not that that guy was good in the 2023 playoffs, but Tua is

an upgrade from Skylar Thompson, who the announcer today, the first two drives was calling him Skylar Murray. And now he's out. Did that really happen? Yeah, he called him Skylar Murray. I was like, oh, that's like Kyler Murray if he's out. And so I don't even know who that is. Did that really happen? Yeah, he called him Skylar Murray.

I was like, oh, that's like Kyla Murray. If he's stuck. Okay. Skylar Murray. And I think he was corrected. Skylar Murray. That sounds like the character in a new Netflix series. It's going to be my Halloween costume.

Have you seen Skylar Murray yet? It's great. That's right. He's in The Penguin, right? Yeah. So he's out. And yeah, so they're in a world of hurt, right? And what do we guess? And we're guessing to a place again. By the abolition and week six or something. All right. Yeah. So I think they'll be done by that. So I think they're in a class by themselves in the most trouble. I can rank the rest if you want to comment them first, and then we'll hit the rest. Yeah. I completely agree. I had them in a class by themselves as well.

I said, I replaced you on the Ringer Sunday pregame today on YouTube TV. Yes. And, you know, because we like to protect your pitch count. You were a little gamey in week one. I thought you were worn out. You were tired. We're throwing you on the mound. I wanted to make sure you were fresh.

I'm just trying to make the ring of honor. I know. Elijah's just pulling me in the ring of honor. I'm just trying to make the ring of honor. I know. Elijah's just pulling me in the ring of honor. I'm just trying to do my best. But I said to JJ, because you know Raheem, nobody loves the alt win totals more than Raheem. Right. He feels like those are the best.

The Dolphins were plus 198 to go 7 and 10 or worse. And they were like plus 350 to go 6 and 11 or worse. And I was like- This was last week? No, this was today. Oh, today. Yeah.

And I was saying to those guys, I, cause there was this weird Skylar Thompson, remember the Buffalo game. And actually, if you go back and you look at the stats and how the Buffalo game actually went in the playoffs, he wasn't doing.

Yeah. And Josh Allen had a fumble touchdown. He threw two other picks and in, in his own territory. So Miami had a really good field position. He wasn't good, Skyler Thompson. And I was just like, there's a chance he's really bad and this Miami season's over. And we were kind of stunned that the odds were two to one for them to go 7-10. Now I bet those odds are close to even because I don't see a path. And

poor Tyreek. Talk about wasted. You put him on that team. What are you going to do? You're just going to throw bubble screens to him. It's not like that. They have no quarterback that can even get it near him. I was thinking of the same thing. And I said,

the whole poor Tyreek thing. I'm like, no, he's got, he's done with this. And then I looked up his stats. I'm like, Oh,

he's a leading receiver on the team right now. Four for 38. That's what it's going to be. Yeah, he was. At the time. So I don't know if he... But that's nothing. That's not using him to his best capabilities, I don't think. Well, they have not scored a touchdown since Tua went down.

I have them first. I had for the second. So when I sent you that list, we kind of forgot about these guys. Cleveland has to be second on this list with their offensive line. I agree. I think they lost three guys today.

Watson is probably the most disliked Cleveland athlete in a long time. Somehow his stats looked way better than the performance that I saw on my television. I don't really see a path for them. We argued about this before the season because you liked them for the playoffs. And you're buying in on Deshaun. Now, you didn't know that this was going to happen to their offensive line.

Their offensive line is completely falling apart. No, you don't have to make excuses for me. It was a bad pick. But I would say this. I still think they could. I don't understand the reservation behind not putting Jamison right now. He's clearly, he or anyone is a better choice. And I guess I do, I would understand putting yourself in the ring of honor as an owner before I would like just choking on this contract. And I get that you can't cut him because then it's dead cap money and those are all,

that's all. But Deshaun Watson, he got injured. He wasn't the story last year. They went through five quarterbacks and it wasn't as glaring of a fuck up as it was this year now

because he's actually playing and bad. Like if you can make the playoffs with five quarterbacks, Joe Flacco being the best of them, why can't you try Jameis? I don't get it. So I do think if they made that switch now,

they could turn it around maybe a little. That said, you're right. There are five guys getting MRIs tomorrow. So maybe it's not going to work. Yeah, it would seem like it would make the most sense just to bench him and say, hey, we just want to sit him down, get his head straight. We're going to try Jameis.

We're going to try whoever. But I don't know if the owner is basically telling them he's starting. We mortgaged everything. You've got to make this work. You've got to keep throwing him out there. He'll get his confidence back. This guy was great four years ago. They lost to the Giants today.

And not only did they lose to the Giants, they had 217 total yards today. They scored first. The game was 7-0 right away because they fumbled on the kickoff. The Browns got it. They scored right away. And then I think for the next 30 plays they ran, they got 25 yards. They showed a graphic. It said, since first drive, 30 plays for 25 yards. They got stuffed on fourth down twice. I was looking at their scores for the year. They have not cracked 19 yet. 17 points, 18 points,

15 points. They're basically playing blackjack. It's like 17, stay. 18, stay. 15, oh, you have a six, stay. They're the blackjack Browns. They can't get to 20. And their defense isn't as good as the Steelers to justify that, right? So they're not going to be 2-1 or 3-0 with that.

Miles Garrett with the hurt foot and everything. But just specifically, you could look at box scores. But if you watch, Jamie, did you watch that game? I mean, maybe a dozen bad throws. Like just bad, bad throws. Between receivers, two bounces, thrown out of bounds. Like, just bad, bad throws. Between receivers, you know, two bounces, thrown out of bounds, really, really bad. I don't know what more

you need to see if you want to win. Might have had the saddest receivers other than the Miami receivers today. Yeah, so I don't see a path for them. I don't know if I'd cross them off, but when you're getting basically annihilated by the Giants, because the Giants were in control of that whole game. I actually think

the score was a little closer than where it ended up. Okay, so we have Cleveland second. The third spot is between the Cowboys and the Rams. I guess this is a good spot to talk about your athletic team. I have the same thing. I have the same order here. Yeah. I came on here. I was going to be like, I'm not worried.

Look, I'm going to put on a brave face. I'm going to tell Simmons I'm not worried. But I have four days more of not being terrified because if they lose to the Giants on Thursday night, that is a must win. That's Emmitt Smith, 1994, January. They have to have that otherwise start. Now, Dak says, get off. You know, if you want to get off, get off the train, get off now.

Did you hear him say that after the game? Who did he say that to? To the fans. It was just like just in general. He was like, get off. You know, he's not putting anyone in the ring of honor. Jesus. But, yeah, it's gross.

Get off the train. Like, what is he, Jesus, but yeah, it's the train. Like, like what does he mad at the fans for? You're the one who's down 28 to six. No, I could do better. He's right. I could do better. But, um, yeah, I don't know what it is. You can blame the defense and that's, I feel like Dak gets a pass on some of these games

where the, where the offense comes out on the other team and just scores a bunch, you know, like the saints did to us and how Baltimore did today. And everyone's like, oh, fire Zimmer. Oh, he's nuts. Get him out of there. He's not ready. His style isn't cohesive with this one. But when Nelson Aguilar is torching us, and I thought he retired in 2007.

It's just bad. Just not beating everybody. They're just playing harder, every other team. Well, the thing I noticed watching today was we should have had Dak for most passing yards. I think was one of my biggest future regrets before the season. Playing from behind. Because you can't run the ball.

They're going to be playing from behind a few more times. But in general, if you're going to move the ball, it's going to be because he's throwing it. Even if he doesn't necessarily have the targets. But I just feel like if you had to say now who's going to throw for the most yards in the league, I would say Dak, right? Wouldn't you? Who would be the competitor to him?

Yeah. I mean, he did it last year, right? Yeah. He was second? No, he was second. They had the most points, but he was second. My fear with him this year was that they didn't have receivers other than Lamb, but they're just not going to be able to really run the ball.

I thought you said they didn't have running backs, and boy, were you wrong about that. Was I? No. Can I say something about CeeDee Lamb? I love him. He's the best thing to happen to this team in years. I wish he was a little fiery. I wish he was a little more of an asshole. I'm used to that with Dez and

T.O. to a point. I feel like maybe he could get the team rally behind him. A defensive player like Parsons does that, but he can only do it so much, I think, on defense. Plus, he was getting dragged around by Henry the whole game. That wasn't cool.

So you want to send him to Diva Camp? Yeah, just someone other than the owner needs to be an asshole, I think. He's taking a lot of asshole. He's hogging a lot of asshole territory. It's true, he is. Is Jerry in the Ring of Honor?

He must be, right? I don't think so, actually. I mean, he should have... Wait until he finds out about this. I don't know if Arthur Blank's married, but can you imagine he comes home? He's like, honey, I've got some good news. I'm getting inducted into the Ring of Honor. It's just like, oh, you got voted in? She's like, no, I just decided I'm going to be in the Ring of Honor. It's week three. Wear your best hat. There's going to be a ceremony at halftime.

Jerry's not in as far as I could tell. I, I texted you, and I think you got mad. In Dak's defense, they did say this would be like a playoff game. No, no. I had heard the joke. You didn't like that. I had heard the joke. You retaliated with some Brady stuff. Dallas's defense.

Here's the most alarming stat for me. Dallas's defense the last two weeks. Yeah. How many incompletions do you think they've forced from the other quarterback? Oh, wow. I didn't see this. Last two weeks. Yeah. How many incompletions do you think they've forced from the other quarterback? Oh, wow. I didn't see this. Last two weeks,

incompletions from the other team? I think, I think Jackson was 12 for 15. Three, seven, eight. Yeah, eight. Yeah.

That's a bad stat. No good. Because when teams are running on you and every time they throw the ball, it's complete. Not great. So you have... Defensively, yeah. You have the Giants on Thursday

and then you're at Pittsburgh in two weeks, which I think will be a possible disaster. At Pittsburgh? Because Pittsburgh's like, oh, you're one dimensional? Boom. And that's what they did to the Chargers today. They're like, we, you're one-dimensional? Boom. And that's what they did to the Chargers today.

They're like, we don't think you can throw the ball. We're taking out the run. That's it. Dobbins, who was headed to the Hall of Fame after two games, they took him out.

There's an interesting Lamar stat. Although Lamar had another classic through a great seven innings and then they were holding on for dear life in the fourth quarter. They still can't close games, really. No, they cannot. Did you see he's 21-1 against the NFC?

NFC, yeah. What a bizarre stat that is. What is the explanation for that? 21-1? I don't know what the explanation is, but it tells me maybe he should have signed with the Falcons, like everybody else said. Oh, my God.

He probably should have. Just roll through. Well, so we said Dallas, so you're properly concerned. Like everybody else said. Oh my God. Just roll through. Well, so we said Dallas. So you're properly concerned. And then the Rams would be the other choice for that spot. And the Rams had just an incredible, incredible comeback win against the Niners. Because they were down 14-0. They didn't seem any receiving possibilities.

A lot of 2-2 Atwell. And just, guy, you're like, oh, Demarcus Robinson. And then they call a fake punt, and it works. It flips the game. And Stafford and McVay were just incredible in that game. I try not to do too much hyperbole on the Sunday nights because we both went to hyperbole on the Sunday nights because we both went to hyperbole rehab. But I thought Stafford was so good in the last hour and a half of that game.

Just every play he had to make, he made. He scrambled around. He took a ton of big hits in the first half. And then they just were like, we're taking the game. We're stealing this from you guys. We have no business winning this, but we're stealing this from you guys. And they stole it. They got a big kickoff to set up the game winning field goal. It was just a great win. I had no dog in the race. I didn't bet on it. I didn't really care who won.

I was just really into it. It was enjoyable. And you're right. They're doing more and more with less. I mean, Jordan Whittington. Let's learn Jordan Whittington's name. And I think we were texting. We're like, Stafford's not going to make it to the finish line here. Oh, no.

It seemed like he was going to be limping off at maybe 5 o'clock Eastern time. One more drive, you might have thought to take him out even. This is a mess. And to his credit, Purdy was excellent. He's 22 for 30, 292. And he had some runs, some nifty runs. Really like, oh boy, I haven't seen a lot of guys pull that off

and diving forward for the first down. So I'm still not sure how it happened. He kind of looked like Doug Flutie a couple times. He was zooming around, buying time, scrambling, doing the U-turn, running this way and then zooming the other way. I thought he was good. It wasn't his fault they lost. But it's a tale of one team and one coach,

McVay, who could do a lot even with a ton of injuries. And then the 49ers where it was glaring. Jawan Jennings had a career day because he was on your bench in fantasy, which is hilarious. I picked him up for two bucks, started Rashid Shaheed over him, who had zero points. And Jennings had like 29. Right. I hate fantasy so much. Oh my God. Two combined touchdowns the rest of his career

and then three today. But yeah, I'm looking at... You know what? I was just going to crap on the Niners a little bit, but they won total yards 425 to 296. I feel like they just got out coach. I guess they had 111 penalty yards, which is rough.

But man, that Sean McVay is something the way he gets it done. So if you're going to say, because heading into this week, the Rams were the prohibitive year from hell team, which we have every year. We have the team that's like, wow, holy shit.

I can't believe all the stuff that happened to that team this year. And now the Niners are kind of creeping into that. The Niners are now one and two. A bunch of guys are hurt. Shanahan, the luster's coming off. I didn't think he coached a good game at all today. And injuries on both sides of the ball. I don't know. The year from hell, it feels like a toss up between those two. Now it's going to be one of those two teams though. I wish I can get a handle on this.

I think you're right, but I don't, if you were to pick like an outlier game, maybe we save this for next week. Like, which is the game we're going to look back on? Like, well, how the hell did that happen? I don't even know. Maybe it's Niners Jets. Like I have no idea at this point. No, I have the game.

You do already? I had this coming up later. Oh, okay. Because we do this every year in the pod. We're like, oh my God. Remember in week two, dot, dot, dot? Yeah. I think Raiders-Ravens is going to be the dumbest result of 2020-24.

You think they end up like four and 13, the Raiders or something? Yeah. Ravens are up 10. The Raiders just, for some reason, put together 10 confident minutes, steal the game. Within a week, they're rolling over against Andy Dalton and the Panthers. Antonio Pierce is giving a crazy press conference.

Did you see that press conference after? Yeah, that was awesome. When he was like, some guys out there down the stretch were making business decisions. Well, we're going to be making some business decisions of our own. It's like, what's going on?

Right. You're losing by 30 to the Panthers. Guys are supposed to be stretching over the middle in traffic for balls. What are you saying? And why wasn't your team prepared? They didn't prepare for Andy Dalton. They only had six days

and 43 years of tape on them. How are they supposed to get ready? Marvin Lewis is on their coaching staff. He coached Andy Dalton. Right. They're completely blindsided that he was going to be accurate. And if you didn't pressure him,

he was going to be good. Now, Max Crosby was hurt in that game and you could kind of feel it. But with an injured Max Crosby, not a great team. Anyway, I think we two Raiders Ravens is the leader in the clubhouse right now for stupidest result.

Also, Pat Seahawks going to overtime. We might look back at that one if the Seahawks turn out to be really good. Just that the Pats actually hung with them for reasons that remain unclear. Well, so the formula is the underdog beat the favorite and their records, which is the biggest disparity after 17 weeks, right? You're saying? So it's probably going to be Raiders-Ravens. Yeah. Right?

Oh, man. I think you're right. I might want to throw my Cowboys in there. Maybe the Browns-Jaguars. Maybe if the Browns end up with four wins and the Jaguars end up with 10, no way. No, you're right. You're closer. Well, the other two

22-23 playoff teams, Baltimore and San Francisco. So Baltimore, I mean, that was my biggest pick today of all the picks. I did really well today. Yeah, saw that. Nice. The Baltimore not going 0-3,

it just seemed too inconceivable. They're too good. I think they're fine ultimately. So I asked you to write down who you thought right now after three weeks if you had to guess seven playoff teams

for each conference who you would pick. I thought it was an interesting exercise. You can't say eight. You can't say either or. Just give me seven for each conference. So you do AFC then I'll do my AFC

and we'll see if we agree or disagree. First of all, shame on you for forcing me to do any kind of exercise. I mean, you could see that's not my MO. All right. But you're not going to like it because you just... Buffalo, no water, right?

Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Houston, KC, Jets, Raiders. I had to go Raiders. I had to do something.ets, Raiders. I had to go Raiders. I had to do something. Still the Raiders. I'm still going Raiders. Well, who's your seventh? I mean, that can't be a good team.

Charge whoever you have. Really? I think the Chargers are good. I really do. I think they're good. I thought they swung haymakers with the Steelers for two hours. And once Herbert went out, they know, they couldn't hang. But their defense was, again, really good.

And Bosa got hurt during that game. I mean, I guess we shouldn't be shocked when Bosa gets hurt. But I think their defense is legitimately good. They just have the feel of like an Easton stick. Tyler Heineke is going to start eight games to me, and Harbaugh's going to be like, oh, well, next year's our year. But maybe you're right. I mean, whatever.

I took the Raiders. I don't know. That game was, I was sweating that game out. I really thought the Chargers had a chance to steal it. So we agree on Jets, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Houston by default. KC. Yeah. And you have the Raiders.

I have the Chargers. By the way, I didn't mention Steelers again. I really should make a bigger deal out of this, but please do it every week. Steelers opponent, first half, Steelers to win the game. The Cousins-Sal hit again? It did hit again, plus 700. You could have got a plus 750. Oh my God.

It hits every three weeks. If you had done that this week, you would have already covered all your Steelers bets. I know, I know. Because it was plus 800 last week, right? They just do it. They just don't maybe have enough out of the gate and then they just wear you down. You know? Jesus, Sal.

I know. I got to say, I hated the Steelers for the entire Brady era and I kind of hated them in the 90s too. They beat us a couple times. My favorite futures were Pittsburgh and the Chargers and the Seahawks.

That's what I had the most action on. That was what I was most excited about. I felt like I was the only one picking the Steelers. Everyone was out on them. I just really admire how they do the most with not a ton. They're definitely really talented on defense,

but offensively, they have one receiver. And the big play of the game was Fields, who they've been really... I've watched every play of every Steelers game. They've been really careful with Fields. Don't throw over the middle. We don't want a ball to get tipped. We don't trust you.

And he did finally have the interception and it was over the middle. But the big play of the game, he had Austin over the middle and Austin took off. Right. And he did finally have the interception and it was over the middle, but the big play of the game, he had Austin over the middle and Austin took off. Right. And it was, I felt like that was an important moment for them because all they were doing was like having him throw it down the sidelines or do screen passes. And they're trusting him more. And I, I think that team's a 10 win team. At least he gave them more than they need out of them. gave them one touchdown one interception fine

245 yards my god nobody gets that anymore are you kidding me that's like 500 that's a whole football field more than we need from you as long as we're going to also rush for 114 and play defense like we do okay so NFC who are your seven

I think we well you could just take Dallas out of there. I thought NFC was harder, just for the record. Philly, Detroit, Atlanta, Dallas, and then three teams from the NFC West, San Francisco, Seattle, Rams. So you're not going to have Dallas in there. That's fine.

Go ahead. Take them out. I know what you're going to do here. I mean, Dallas is ridiculous. So you're not going to have Dallas in there. That's fine. Go ahead. Take them out. I know what you're going to do here. I mean, Dallas is ridiculous. You almost like ruined. I'm taking you out of the ring of honor. This is terrible. What?

You're out. I got out? We're taking your statue out. I was on for 12 minutes. I was in. Wow. I have Philly. I have three NFC North teams.

Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota. Wow. I had New Orleans over Atlanta. I have San Francisco and I have Seattle. And San Francisco was the one I wavered on the most. And I don't know if I'm right, but I didn't want to put Arizona in. For the record, I thought Arizona, again, was good today. They had a pretty noble loss to the Lions.

The Lions did the Lions thing again where they had the ball a ton. They had a pretty noble loss to the Lions. The Lions did the Lions thing again where they had the ball a ton. They ran a lot of plays. Their defense just completely shut down the Cardinals running game. But the Cardinals, they hang around. They hang around. You can't quite put them away.

You always feel like they're one play away from getting back into it. I think they lost to Buffalo by six, Detroit by seven. I thought those were good losses. Yeah, that game sucked for us because I think we both had Detroit minus three. And they wanted, desperately,

they wanted that game to end 2017. They tried everything. They were dying for it. They did. And I was so happy when it was 23rd, Tim. Okay, now we're going to play defense. But you're right. I just worry that they don't,

man, the Lions really have trouble. Did they have 20 in the first half? They shut them out in the second half. Yeah. And so the Cardinals could play that tough defensively, obviously, down the stretch. They could sneak in nine. I think they could be like a nine-win playoff team

if that exists in the NFC. I thought the crowd was good both ways because there were Lions fans there too, but it was just like a lively game. The Cardinals defense stepped up a bunch of times. And I don't know. I didn't think it was a bad loss for them. So you have Atlanta.

I have New Orleans for the second. Well, here's the thing. There's no way we're going to be able to tell who's better, Atlanta or New Orleans, for another 10 weeks. No, we're taking that to week 18. You could pretend. Trump and Kamala are in the margin of error

for every swing state. So go ahead and make your predictions. You have no idea how it's going to turn out. Same thing for Atlanta and New Orleans. By the way, five wins in the NFC South. Is that what you have? Wait, what do you mean? Five total wins right now

through three weeks in the NFC South. Yeah. Well, Andy Dalton killed you. He killed your bet. That was their only win today. But we're at least now for under 30. You could have been 2-15 with that Panthers team. Now the Red Rifles in that.

I'm not sweating out Andy Dalton. So the newsflash. So I have Detroit, Green Bay, and Minnesota, and I'm going to make the case for Green Bay. LeFleur has stepped up into the top six or seven as a coach. The fact that they were able to steal both of those games and buy some time with Love, their defense was really good. Love's going to come back. They're going to have a top six or seven offense when he comes back. And I just think that's a 10-win team. I felt that way before the

year. And the fact that they're two and one right now is probably where you would add them anyway. So Love will be back next week or the week after. And I think they get to 10 wins. I think you said it without saying it. There's three head coaches in the NFC North who are probably in the top six or seven overall. Really, really good. LaFleur, how he figured that game out. And we know Campbell's solid. And what O'Connell's doing in Minnesota is spectacular, which is why I am not as worried about the Cowboys.

Now, if they lose to the Giants, it's a different story. But if they're 2-2, a half game behind Philly, who I think does... Can you get to nine wins? You could. You could.

We haven't even played Philly yet. That coach blows more games than mccarthy like he couldn't call anything right today not one thing could he call right what was the one you gave up you gave up 72 points in like two and six and a half quarters you can't worry about anything like that no no that's until the ravens did the weird ravens thing they do where they just they can't figure out they've dare they dare henry and lamar jackson and have no idea how to get first downs with a 10-point lead.

I've never seen anything like it. They can't finish the game. Yeah, I know. Quietly the dumbest team in the league. I don't understand them. Well, listen, everybody gets mad at me for my you-don't-need-running-backs comment, but the 3-0 teams, the running backs

are James Cook, Zach Charbonnet for the most part, Najee Harris, Aaron Jones. All right. No one's breaking the bank for those guys. You know who's breaking the bank? The Bears who spent $24 million on DeAndre Swift for reasons that are being unclear. Oh, we have DeAndre Swift.

Meanwhile, Philly goes and gets Barkley who now is leading on FanDuel for Offensive Player of the Year. Plus 500. He has the highest odds. Should they have stayed put with Justin Fields and just had a boatload of picks and Marvin Harrison and everything else? I feel like

that discourse will start this week. If you put Fields behind that Bears offensive line, he would be just as shaky and sketchy as Caleb Williams has been. Yeah, but you could use those picks for linemen. They couldn't block the Colts without Buckner. Yeah.

What the hell is that? No, it's rough. We likened them to- They have 20 receivers and no offensive linemen. So what the Colorado does and Deion Sanders and the offensive line, it's the same thing. It's just under siege for three hours. So we said before the year, my big case was that I thought there was going to be Deion Sanders and the offensive line. It's the same thing. It's just under siege for three hours. So we said before the year,

my big case was that I thought there was going to be three NFC West playoff teams. And I had San Francisco, Seattle, and the Rams. I still have that. To me, the NFC West, you could tell me any of those teams are going to win the NFC West, and I wouldn't say you're crazy. You tell me Arizona are going to win the NFC West and I wouldn't say you're crazy. You tell me Arizona is going to win the NFC West.

I don't think that's insane. Rams, if they can hold on until Cup and Puka come back, like not insane. San Francisco, obviously they're still the favorite. And then Seattle who lost, they lost Williams and Murphy on their D-line today. They're two best guys. Those guys are going to be hurt next week.

Their offensive line's a mess. Their schedule's about to get harder. I don't know. Nine and eight might take that division for all we know. Yeah, I think there's a lot of divisions where there's three teams that can win it. I really do. Maybe that's what's good about football now.

Yeah, I know. It's not great to watch when quarterbacks have 43 yards at half, but yeah, it is competitive. I wrote down, I have a category, sneaky teams. And Zona is my number one sneaky team. Denver was too. I thought Denver, I wanted to bet the money line so bad. I just never pulled the trigger today with them

because that line was six and a half. They were dying for you to tease Tampa. Tampa coming off this upset win over Detroit where Detroit just gave them the game and ran 83 plays and somehow didn't win. But we said on Thursday when House and I talked about this, the million dollar

picks, Denver against Pittsburgh in the second half was sneaky good. They controlled the second half. The game today, they dominated Tampa. They took over the game. Bo Nix was actually really good. Peyton trusted him, kept him going. So I had them, and then maybe Jacksonville, depending on what happens tomorrow night,

as three teams. Is there anybody else you would say is like, I know what their record is, but would you put the Giants in there? Because I would not. I mean, people might put, no, I don't think so. The thing is Giants play the Cowboys and the one thing they have in common

is they both beat the Browns. So you really can't, how are we going to be able to tell? They're going to have to play that game before we even see anything. I guess you could say the Bengals, if they're sneaky, right? Well, you would obviously have the Raiders

because you still think they're making the playoffs. Yeah. Well, I think it's a no-brainer. I don't even think it's sneaky. Of course, the Raiders are making the playoffs. You make it a business decision. You're going to make a business decision and I'm going to make a business decision.

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Giants won by six. Malik Neighbors is so good that it doesn't matter that Daniel Jones is his quarterback. I know. Somehow, Tyreek Hill, it does matter that Skylar Thompson's his quarterback, but Malik neighbors, they just throw to him all the time. I think he has more targets than anyone else in the league. He's super exciting. He's made some holy shit plays. I think he went six. They might actually nailed that pick. I know what the combine said. I was pretty like,

I thought I was sure of everybody's dimensions. He know he's seven foot four you know he's like andre the giant's height like but i feel like oh nice shirt i feel like he's picking the ball out of like uh throws that would go through the goal post and he's like grabbing him out of the air he who's okay who's he like what's the comp i said uh it's like tyrico crossed with somebody else but he's bigger than him but like i'm trying to mean it's like tyreek hill was size almost i don't i don't know i don't know what he's like calvin johnson people want nuts on me but um i think there's a little no i know all right so maybe there's that combination there really i don't know if we've seen anybody quite like him but he's pretty goddamn exciting. I mean, the Giants literally

would be two and one if they had just signed or added another kicker in week two when they knew that their first kicker was an error. All right. Lions Cardinals, Lions won by seven. Goffs has four picks in three games and a pick six that would have swung. I forgot to mention that when we talked about Arizona, they get a pick six right for the two minute warning. And they said, no, no, it was the two minute warning and they replay it.

And it's so not the two minute warning. There was no one left when they snapped it. And then it would pick six, just vanishes. Cardinals might've won the game, but, um, the lions have scored 60 points in 12 quarters,

six in overtime. So 66 total. They've ran 151 plays the last two weeks and only have 40 points. And I don't really understand it, even as I'm watching it. You watch them and you're like, how is this team not scoring 38 points a week?

What am I missing? I don't know either. Did they have a fourth and one, too? I'm trying to think if they were one of the teams that got stuck in there. Everything is like so... I think they? I'm trying to think if they were one of the teams that got stuck in there. Everything is like so. I think they got stuffed. Yeah.

I think they were one of the ones. Fourth down, they were all for one. Arizona was all for two. Yeah. Everyone was bad on fourth down. Yeah. I mean, Amon, St. Brown, they had a nifty play with the hook and ladder and St. Brown scored, but this is a game where I thought they would kill them.

I was like, this is going to be 33-15 or something, 33-16. They can't pull away. I don't understand it. Chris Myers on the call today. Has he replaced... I mean, they're still laughing. I like Chris.

No, I like him too. It's just, is he now the oldest old guard guy now? No, I mean, I guess Al Michaels is still in there, but because we would have forever, it'd be like Dick Enberg and there would always be like the older guy. Now I think it's Chris Myers. And Chris Myers isn't even that much older than we are.

You mean, so this is... He's got to be in his mid-60s, right? How old is Nance? Oh, yeah, you're right. Nance, Nance, you know how old he is? He's 83. No, stop that. Stop that now. I thought Romo, I think Romo's been good this season. I think Brady made Romo step

his game up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Romo has been excellent this season. Nance is 60. Why? Because he talks? He actually says things when, things when the play is developing. He does that. I know. He's your boy. I know.

It's tough. It's tough. No, let's do it. Let's talk about it. SNL had this sketch with Nick Cage like 30 plus years ago called Tiny Elvis. Do you remember this? Yeah. And Nicolas Cage, it was like a shrunk down Tiny Elvis and he was just sitting on a table and he had like his

bodyguards with him and he would just make jokes. He'd be like, look at that salt shaker. That thing's huge. And the bodyguards would be like, oh, good one, Tiny. Good one. You did it again. That's what these Brady games are like. They're so, they're like overreacting to every comment he makes. They're trying desperately to set him up and be like, whose diet were they talking about? Derrick Henry's at one point. Like, Derrick, he doesn't eat until five o'clock. He has an avocado

at five o'clock. It sounds like you're diet TB. And they're just trying so hard to make him a personality. And three weeks in, it is just not working. So I don't think it is, but I don't think it's the worst thing in the world. It's not the worst thing in the world. But so he's a studio guy then.

So he's better as a studio guy. Like, I still think he has a lot to offer. I don't think he can get it out in six seconds, you know? And I'm not sure that he wants to. Yeah, that's a good point. I heard this theory that he's a big swearer when he's not doing games and that's why he's like kind of stilting as he does it. I'm not ready to write it off yet, but I thought it would be better by week three and it's just not. Do you think he needs

Jeff Ross in there and Tony Hinchcliffe? He was his best at the roast. Maybe he just needs those guys. I feel like he's holding back is one of my biggest issues with him. Right. I feel like he wants to talk about how dumb of a throw that was. You can't put your receiver where he's about to get.

But it's like he's being nice and I don't know if you... He's not critical enough yet. Well, these guys interview critical enough yet. Well, these guys interview the quarterbacks on Friday, right? So,

the Friday before the game, I think they all, they interview the coaches, they interview the quarterbacks, they talk to them, you know, and what they let go out on the broadcast

is up to them. I could see him being a little nervous, like, like, hey, you know, I,

these guys were all good to me over the years. It's like, yeah, you were the fucking best. Of course, they were good to nervous. Like, like, Hey, you know, I, uh, these guys were all good to me over the years. It's like, yeah, you were the fucking best. Of course they were good to you. Like, I'm not, why would I burn a bridge here?

So it's tough. Yeah. At one point, what did Hench text us about when he was like, well, Lamar lives for moments like this. When it was in the fourth quarter, it's like,

well, Mark's been terrible at moments like this. What are you talking about? But he lives in fear. Yeah. I would love insight from him of like, and maybe Burkhardt hasn't figured out how to set them up yet, but just talk about, Hey, the Ravens are really struggling in these fourth quarters. Like what makes a team be good for 50 minutes and bad for the last 10? Like, did you, were you ever on a team like that?

What are the reasons? How do you fix it? It's almost like they should be thinking about him like he's the fixer. It's like, this team's doing this. This is stupid. What would you do? Why is this team like this? If they asked you, what would you tell them? And they have to reset his brain to think that way.

And it's just not how it's going these days. You're the greatest quarterback of all time. Tell us what went wrong here. You're the answer, man. As the greatest quarterback. Well, just like what Belichick is doing on 40 other different shows. Right.

Belichick's on 45 other shows. But it just seems like he thinks the job is, well, you see there, Dak, he saw Zeke coming out of the side. He just hits him with that pass. That pass has to be better. He led him too far away

and that's why I was incomplete. It's like, cool. Like, can you give me more? I can tell. I'm watching on TV. I'm not ready to write him off yet. He's going to be just fine. As Hench said, when the Pats fans are like, ooh, Brady's

not great, that's not a good sign. We didn't talk about the Eagles-Saints game, which kept me from sweeping million-dollar picks, at least for today. Yeah, that sucks. Saints finally go ahead. They're up five.

Somehow I missed the two-point because they don't have Taysom Hill and they don't have any two-point plays that don't get him, but that's fine. Eagles have the ball. There's like under two and a half minutes left. Third and 16. Devonta Smith's out of the game. A.J. There's like under two and a half minutes left. Third and 16. Devonta Smith's out of the game. A.J. Brown's not playing. The only guy in the field who can hurt them is Dallas Goddard.

And they're inside their own 30. And somehow Dallas Goddard gets open for a 60-yard play. And the Eagles end up going up by a point and a two-point. And they're up three. Yeah. The first down is also unacceptable to Goddard on third and 16. And I understand two guys ran into each other. But to

go untouched for 60 yards. He shouldn't go untouched in his house for 60. I'm not... How about double him? Just put a guy on him and another guy behind him. He's the only guy in the field that can hurt you. Hurts can run for it, maybe. And that's the other one. But yeah, it's him and Goddard. Now it was terrible.

And that bailed Sirianni out. I think that would have been the big story today. If they're one and two, it would have been Sirianni. Do you think he would have been fired if they lost that game? I don't know if he could fire him. It's not inconceivable, right? No. I think Big Dom would have stuffed him in the trunk of a Tesla or something. And that would have been that.

I don't know if they could fire him. That seems too cruel. But I mean, he couldn't get anything right. They went for it twice on fourth down. Both times as they're doing it, you're watching on your TV going, this is weird. They went for that 60-yard field goal with Elliott, which if you missed it, was going to just give the Saints all this life, which is exactly what happened. There was other stuff too, but it wasn't that.

What was the one you hated? The one right before half. It was like 12 seconds left. He went on fourth and one or something. When they could have kicked the field goal. Did you say that? Oh, well, I mean, I said they got stuffed on two fourths and ones, but one of them could have kicked the field goal. Instead, they ran like a

sweet play that got stuffed, but the only way that play made sense because they had no timeouts left was if they thought they were getting a touchdown out of it. And they were on like the 15. Yeah. It was inexplicable. Can I just say something about this in coaching? Why can't you replace a coach during the game?

Like a pitcher? Well, just take the quarterback. Quarterbacks are getting $360 million and if they don't have it, just like CJ Stroud, we know he's great. He didn't have it just like you know CJ Stroud we know he's great he didn't have it they took him out

do that with a coach hey the coach doesn't have it today he was 0 for 5 on his fourth down call Sirianni's in the in the box for the second half

right he's in the box the assistant coach or Big Dom is making those calls in the fourth quarter I don't think that's a ridiculous notion

I really like it. Arthur Blank should have thought of that. He would have made the ring of honor. One thing with the Saints, McCoy got hurt three plays in.

Yeah. Their best, their best offensive lineman. They couldn't really totally block, but what it led to was the return of Derek Carr. Yeah.

Derek Carr's, he already has a brother, David Carr, but this was Derek Carr's other brother, like Dirk Carr or whatever you want to call him. Like evil Derek Carr. Derek Carr, he already has a brother, David Carr, but this was Derek Carr's other brother, like Dirk Carr or whatever you want to call him. Like evil Derek Carr showed up. They were pressuring him.

They got all this pass rush that they just didn't. And Atlanta, against Atlanta, they touched cousins twice the whole game. This game, Carter was a maniac. They're pushing the line, pushing the line. And Derek Carr looked like last year Derek Carr and looked terrified. I was thinking about hedging at halftime because I was like,

I don't like how this is going. Then I would have been so mad when the Saints were up 12-7 on third and 16. But Carr was bad. I don't know what to make of this with the Saints offense that looks so awesome the first two games. And he missed Shahid, was wide open on a bomb, and he underthrew him. It just would have been a touchdown if he'd put air on it. There were some other plays that

they felt super sloppy. McCoy going out early obviously hurt them, but I've cooled off on the Saints, Sal. I'm with you. You know what? You want to blame someone for Derek Carr failure? Carr problems?

Blame me. I bet him over one and a half touchdown passes. I had all these trends. I was so excited. I was like, he's going to get two. Because he has like, he played great in the first two games. He didn't even play really the second half to score. You know, I was like, this guy is, he's in sync.

All they had to do was get rid of Michael Thomas. That guy was the issue. And now, but you're right. They didn't look anything. They didn't look as fast as they did in the last couple weeks. Maybe the Eagles are just as fast as everybody, but very disappointing. Maybe they just need to play Dallas every week. That's true.

Yeah. It's so funny. I feel that way about the Browns. Just let us play Cleveland. It's almost like sports just changes every week, and you play good one week and not that good the next week. I was surprised, though. I thought they would put up more than 12 points against the Eagles.

I don't really fully understand that. So the Panthers killed the Raiders. We mentioned that. What happens with Bryce Young now? Because there was, I think Diana Rossini reported that she thought they were actually done with Bryce Young now? Because there was, I think Diana Rossini reported that she thought they were actually done with Bryce Young and that they were going to trade him after the year. A couple other people have said that. I find that hard to believe

they would just be done with him. I know. But I also think maybe, you know, a lot of these guys benefit from a year under the starter. Let's say it's Andy Dalton. Like hopefully Drake May right now. Yeah, right. Exactly.

Andy Dalton, who, by the way, the only quarterback this year who had 300 yards and three touchdowns in a game. Sicknick. But I don't know if Bryce Young is that guy. Just from watching him and just watching how he just really might be too small and not built for this game. And the other part is, oh, they should trade him to the Rams. What do you fetch for Bryce Young right now?

You're selling really, really low. I think you have to hold on to him. You have to hold on to him. But I thought the Dolphins would have been a fun one for him. Yeah. Right? Because that's kind of the... If you're going to put him in a system where he has to dump the ball...

A couple people mentioned this last week. I didn't come up with this. But getting rid of the ball within two seconds, maybe that's one. But I wouldn't trade him if I was... He's better than Skylar Murray. That's for sure. Speaking of quarterbacks,

Sam Darnold's MVP odds on Fandle now 25 to one. Is he like eighth or something now? What is it? 25 to one, Sam Darnold. Guy was out of the league. I'm wondering, so the Vikings beat the Texans 34-7 and Houston looked like they couldn't block.

Maybe the AFC South sucks. Is that possible? Houston, Indianapolis, Tennessee, Jacksonville. Houston might not even be that good in 9-8, and they're just going to get the fourth seed and just lock them in, and they're going to be playing whoever doesn't win the AFC North.

That division sucks right now, for sure. Richardson threw his two interceptions. I thought the first one was just out of this world. Bad, triple-covered, four-yard pass in the end zone. And then the second one was even worse, I thought. So, yeah, you have quarterbacks that aren't ready. You have teams that can't put the offense together. And yet they won, the Colts, right?

They avoided being on the feet. They somehow won. The Bears cannot block at all. And I thought we're somehow the most poorly coached team of the day, which is really saying something. But Ibraflues, I don't know what that guy's doing.

His timeouts and challenges, they just operate in this alternate universe. I'd be going nuts if I was a Bears fan. And they also don't seem like they know how to run an offense for a team that obviously can't block. Caleb's just going back.

Maybe I'm going to have time this time. And he goes back. It's like, nope, there's four guys on me again. The next time, that's going to happen again. Guess what? There's going to be four more guys on me again. It's like, the next time that's going to happen again. Guess what? There's going to be four more guys the next time. Yeah, he had 52 attempts.

If you give him 70 attempts, the next 18, he's going to be crushed six of them. They're trying to wear down the other team's defensive line from sacking him. Yeah. You guys tired yet?

But Iberflues was awful. You mentioned Richardson. Did you see he has six interceptions? Is it six already? Wow. That's a lot. We talked before this season. We were talking about who could win the interception title. I had Caleb. Yeah. I think

I had Sam Darnold. We argued about was he going to play enough games to get it, but we thought somewhere between 15 and 19 would be the interception title. That's usually where it lands. Richardson's already at six. If you count Sam Darnold,

like the NFC Championship game in the Super Bowl, he might get the most interceptions. He had the playoffs. Jesus. So Richardson has thrown 73 passes this year. How many do you think he's completed? 73. You said six are interceptions.

Six, six, seven, 30, 35. Good call. 36. Okay.

So he's just under 50%, but it feels worse when he's on one of the TVs because they're sailing everywhere, but then he'll uncork the most beautiful 50-yard pass to somebody in stride. And you're like, oh, I get it. I get why the combine, he blew everyone away. He'll also have like two runs a game where he's just running over people like Derrick Henry. So there's something there.

I don't think he's a bust by any means. You have to have a name for that because you now put together a four box for YouTube TV, right? And that was, I imagine that was your fourth choice on the fourth box, right? And that was, I imagine that was your fourth choice on the fourth box, right? That Colts Bears game. You have to have a name for like the dangling box or something. Are you ready?

That can move in and out at any time that box. Oh, interesting. Because to me, that was just between that and the Giants Browns, I thought. Which train wreck do you want to watch out of those two? It's almost like a six man or like... Yeah, right, right. What's that starter in baseball the the reliever starts the opener the reliever that starts the opener in baseball they call it what do they call it the opener when the relievers just pitches the

first inning and then he leaves oh yeah like the the rays do yeah yeah yeah it's like that it's like i'm gonna start the game with colts Bears. Yeah, I was moving around. There was a couple. Texans-Vikings was just, that has to go. I thought that was going to be a staple. An hour and a half in, it was out. Broncos-Bucks is the last one. So the six-plus faves, after today, they are 2-15 against the spread.

And how many outrights? Nine outright losses for the six-point favorites. So if you love teasing, you're probably telling your mom you need a gym membership and more money. 500 bucks. I'm joining Equinox. It's 500 bucks, but it's cash. It's not credit card.

Do you have 500 bucks cash? Right. They're laughing at us. All the purists that laugh at teaser players. And guess what I'm doing tomorrow? F'ing teaser. You better believe it. What are you doing?

Buffalo and Cincy? I'm actually going to do Jacksonville and Cincy. I mean, they got it. They have to. Both those teams have to come close. I mean, Mike. I don't see Trevor Lawrence losing eight in a row, Mike. You know, I'll watch Patrick Mahomes lead his team down the field

so that Harrison Bucker could kick 300 yards worth of field goal. It was just amazing. What were they waving? Sousa B, Anthony? Oh, yeah. In was just, it was amazing. They were, what were they waving? Susan B. Anthony? Oh yeah. In the crowd. Who was that? Like they're trying to psych them out. They're waving Susan B. Anthony signs. Right, right, right. Yeah.

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So we got- You were good. And it's 1-1-1 after three weeks. All right, so we're fresh start. We're basically starting. We're dead even. Thursday night, your team is playing the Giants in Giants Stadium. This felt like Cowboys minus three and a half to me. Wow.

Wow, the disrespect. I might just, I may have to quit the week here because I had six and a half. Yeah. Still the Giants. And it's four and a half. You get it. I think that ends under four.

I think that gets to three and a half. Really? Yeah. Your team's not good. I know you can't see it yet. It's fine. Your team's not that good. Okay.

But don't we match up against the Giants? What? It's not your fault. Just hold me. It's not your fault. Hold me through the Zoom. It's not your fault. Your team's not good. We have Lam. My team's not good either. Hold me through the Zoom. It's not your fault. Your team's not good.

We have Lamb. My team's not good either. We have two bad teams. Our defense is better. Our quarterback's better. Okay. All right. We always beat them.

Listen, Dak might win nine games just by himself, which he probably should if you're paying him $60 million. But your team's not very good. Okay. I guess that's it. I mean, you usually, you'll agree though, they usually throw a Cowboys tax in there, right? And three and a half,

four and a half, what it is, doesn't seem... I would argue you had the Cowboys tax this week when the line was one and a half when it should have been three. Really? The Ravens? The Ravens. I thought the Ravens should have been favored by three, yeah. By the way, we didn't... Yeah, that flip from when we bet last week.

All right, I don't even want to talk about that game. Well, the big flip from last week was that Saints-Eagles move like five points, right? Yeah, because the Eagles lost on Monday and that moved it, yeah. Sunday marquee. So I'm going to do this one, even though it's probably not the marquee,

but it is for me. Chiefs at the Chargers. Chiefs come in LA. Harbaugh, his first time going against Andy Reid and Mahomes. Herbert probably playing, I would assume. And assuming he does play. I just think this is a really fun game, and I'm excited to watch it

because I think I'm a little higher on the Chargers, especially their defense, the most. So I'm going to say Chiefs by six. All right. I'm going to suggest we throw this out, and it's not just because I lost. I said Chiefs by three and a half, but this reads for sure like he's not playing.

It's eight and a half. Oof. We're not throwing it out because I won. All right, fine. I mean, yeah, but all your analysis was Herbert's play.

I mean, he's clearly not playing this game, right? Eight and a half. Well, there's going to be a lot of Chiefs fans too. Don't you think 30,000 Chiefs fans at that game?

It's not eight and a half points for the Chiefs fans. That's craziness. That line's too high. I agree. Well, you look at that and make sure I'm not screwing that up.

Sunday, 425. Eight and a half, right? Okay. The two injuries that didn't look great were that one and Laporta looked like he was really hurt. Yeah, he came back for a second. Yeah. That guy just seems jinxed.

Yeah. All right, you get that one. You're up 2-0. But I'm surprised that already they, they're assessing that he's, he's out. Well, I'm leading to nothing already for the week.

I'm excited. I have two watchable games. Oh, three. My bad. There's one in the wrong category. Okay. First one.

Saints at the Falcons. I almost want to call this a loser leaves town match, but we can't because this division is going to be dragging on for 14 more weeks. I have the Saints favorite in this game. I did Saints by one. I just think they're better. All right. I'm going to get... Do I get this?

You figure out the math. Yeah, I get this. I said Atlanta by three. So I was like, you know what? You don't step into Atlanta. They have the ring of honor with the owner in there. It's Atlanta by one and a half. Yeah, you did get that. I was off one and a half. You were off three. I think that could move. That could tighten them. Atlanta by one and a half. Interesting. Did we hammer Raheem Morris hard enough in the pod? Can't remember. There were so many bad coaches today,

but special kudos to him for those terrible awful third and fourth down calls. That last fourth down, I don't know down calls. I mean, that last fourth down, I don't know, man. I've seen so many up the middle that didn't make it. I've seen so many jet sweeps that didn't make it. I don't even know what the right call is on fourth down. What about the timeout? So they get a first down. It's under a minute left. There's a play. And then he just calls timeout. And then the next play, Reed calls timeout

before Raheem Morris is able to call timeout, which should have told him how dumb the first timeout was. Yeah, right. There's a minute left. You're on the 15. There's no,

you keep your three timeouts in case you don't get it. Yeah. Keep the clock running. Either way, make the Chiefs call timeout. He just completely mangled it. Yeah.

He was terrible the last time he was a head coach. Yeah. But I thought he'd be better this time because everyone was talking about what a great defensive coordinator he was. But when he was the head coach. Yeah. But I thought he'd be better this time because everyone was talking about what a great defensive coordinator he was. But when he was the head coach for Tampa, he was awful.

Didn't we make a deal with ourselves that we were going to wait until after three games and then bet Atlanta to win the division? It's like they could be 0-3 or 1-2 or something. Now they're plus 180 in their home. I guess if you think they're going to lose this one, then you wait even longer. But we did make a deal that we never keep up.

I thought we had to wait until, oh, I guess this was the week. Yeah. Wait, so what, so they're, all right, I'm going to Fandle. So they are, Saints are plus 145, Falcons plus 180,

Tampa's plus 260. Because they were a minus to start the year, right? So we were like, no, just wait a few weeks and they could be one and two or all in three. What team do you like more? I guess that's what it comes down to. I like the Saints team. I saw last week beat the shit out of my Cowboys.

That's the team that should win the division. I like the Saints a little more. Okay. Next one is Eagles at the Bucks. Eagles have to be favored in this game. I'm going to say Eagles by one and a half at Tampa. I got this exactly right

unless it changed. I said two and a half and it is... Sorry. Still two and a half. Yeah, Phillilly's favorite. That's a playoff rematch, right? The Bucs waxed them the last time.

So either that's a Bucs feeling confident because they beat them the last time. Yeah. Or the Eagles mad that they beat them the last time. I never know. I never know how that works. Yeah. Let me know how that turns out. Yeah.

I'll never figure that one out. Next one is Packers at the Vikings. This arguably could have been the marquee game, but I don't know if Malik Willis was playing or not. By the way,

shout out to Malik Willis. Malik Willis was good. He was pretty good today. Very good. I mean, maybe I'm crediting the coach too much, but Malik Willis

didn't screw up. He ran along with that team. They pounded the ball. And that defense, I guess we should talk more about the Packers. Young, excellent defense. It already has six interceptions than when they had seven all of last year. Very, very good. Well, he cost me money twice because he cost me money last week

because I bet against the Packers only because of Malik Wills, because of his career to that point and they won. So I stayed away this week. But then with Skylar Thompson, I was like, I just want to bet against Skylar Thompson. He's in Seattle. Seattle's defense should just kill him. What are we

doing? But I was so scared off by the Malik Willis thing, I held off. It's almost like a second loss. Malik Willis scared me off of easy Skylar Thompson money. So fuck you a second time, Malik Willis. He's responsible for all your bad bets here going forward. I have the Packers at home, right? Yeah, Packers at home.

Minus one and a half over Minnesota. I narrowly beat you. I said three. It's two and a half over Minnesota. Oh, I narrowly beat you. I said three. It's two and a half. So that's a line that... It's a good game. That's a line that is saying Jordan loves playing. Loves playing, yeah.

I think he wanted to go this week. I should have factored that in. God damn it. Too late. I should have cheated this week. I forgot to cheat. That's a fun one. That's a good one early on.

I like that. Yeah, that probably should have been the Sunday marquee game if Love's playing. Yeah. I'm going to flip that even though it doesn't matter because we already did the podcast.

I'm going to flip that just for my own records. Fairly watchable. I got five. Jets-Broncos. Not a terrible game. Yeah. It's a Jets home game.

And I think the Broncos showed enough today that they moved that line under seven. I have Jets by six and a half. All right, I'm making a move here. I said seven, it's seven and a half. Oof. It's a little too high. Three to two, good guys.

So the Broncos had a really good second half against the Steelers and played a really good complete game today. So they've been good for a really good second half against the Steelers and played a really good complete game today so they've been good for a game and a half and I think that line's too high well we didn't talk about the Jets at all because it was a Thursday

game I guess you talked about it on Friday but I think people need to calm down just a little bit just a little bit with Aaron Rodgers and the Jets and I'm not saying this because I don't like whatever. I had them Thursday. I think they're a playoff team, but they played a bottom five team. Sorry, you shit on my team enough today. I'm insulted you said bottom five. They're a bottom three team. There you go. Bottom three. I take it back.

Bottom three. I will never insult you again. Three worst teams than us. Bottom three, bottom five on three days rest. So anything could happen. And they took advantage. But he looked good. He looked good.

But he wasn't forced out. I mean, he had like design rollouts out of the pocket. I think he was forced out too much. I thought he looked good. I thought he made good throws. A little bit high. Tiny bit. Texans are home for the Jaguars

so I have Texans by three and a half but I think if the Jaguars look good I think this line goes under three but for now I get you here

Texans three and a half I said four it's four and a half I went a little higher these are good division games many Green Bay Jacksonville Houston

that's an underdog pick KC Char, Houston. That's an underdog pick. KC Chargers. I think that's an underdog pick, Sal. The Jags? I'm going to bet the Jags again. Honestly, just club me in the head. We have to see them all. No, that's too many points.

The Jags have a good pass rush, so the Texans can't block anyone. You can get to Stroud. Yeah. And they can't run the ball. We'll see if they get Mixon back next week, but they couldn't run the ball, which see if they get uh mix them back next week but they couldn't run the ball which is a problem okay

next one Steelers at Indianapolis this is your team you should get this I was off by half a point Steelers by two and a half I said two it's one and a half

look at this look how I'm elbowing you out of here god damn it I promise look no I I believe you I'm not like you

I don't when I'm losing I don't accuse No, I believe you. I'm not like you. When I'm losing, I don't accuse the other person of cheating. Like you're the real-life 2014 Indianapolis Colts. You're just accusing when you're losing. Just lash out. I don't know why you don't do that. I think that's a character flaw, to be honest. That line should be up to two and a half or three

by game time because Anthony Richardson against that Steelers defense is not going to be pretty. At some point, they could take one game a month off the Steelers defense, right? I don't know, man. Isn't that what defenses do? I think Watts possessed this year.

Yeah. Last one. I put Bears-Rams as a fairly watchables only because I don't know what the F to expect from either of these teams. It's definitely not a poop-fected game. And the Rams really won my respect today. You're going to get this.

Am I? Because I have the Bears favored by one and a half. Yeah, you got it exactly. I had the Rams favorite by three. Talk me out of this, why the Bears are favored. I don't know. Because the Rams got super

lucky today and probably should be 0-3. Well, I mean, if anyone should be 0-3, I... Okay. Yeah, the Bears got super lucky against the Titans. Yeah. Will Levis, eight turnovers this year.

Forgot to shout him out. So good. Yeah. He's so good. Eight turnovers in three games. What a pace. Poor JJ. Made that his best bet.

I mean, imagine giving points with Will Levis. You know, right away it's over. There's different ways to do these best bets. I am personally not a I'm going to make my best bet of the week a bad quarterback or a bad team. I can't personally do it. I don't like betting on bad teams

because I just think there's too much variance. I'm the same way. I think you bet underdogs. If you make a living betting underdogs, you'll live eight years shorter because you're betting on a bad quarterback to do a good thing in the fourth quarter.

Poop Fecta. Bengals Panthers. You could argue this is a fairly watchable because of Dalton going against his... Is he in the Bengals Ring ring of honor or no? 300 yards, three touchdowns. Yeah.

Took us to seven playoff games. Here he is. I have the Bengals right in the Vegas zone laying five points in Carolina. All right, you're going to get it. It's five and a half. Yeah, he was instrumental. He was in the Shakey's game

every year, right? Dalton. He was at Saturday game, him against Matt Schaub. I see Dalton and I just think of warm, kind of gross pizza that might give you diarrhea

in a couple hours. I see his face. That's my, that's my instinct. That's good. Being on the bowl. Wondering what I did. What?

Wondering why I had that sausage pizza slice. He's going to get you back by putting up six W's for Carolina, moving that NFC South total up to 33. Here's, here's a hard line. 49ers at home for the terrible New England Patriots. Yeah. I went with 49ers by nine.

Yeah. I went seven and a half. If you're going to get it, it's 10 and a half. I was way off. I just didn't think 10 and a half existed anymore, honestly. Is that our first one? We didn't have one last week, right? I don't know if we've had a double figures one. Yeah, I think Is that our first one? We didn't have one last week, right? I don't know if we've had a double figures one.

Yeah, I think that's our first one. Let's see. This is easy enough to do. This will be Jacoby Brissett's last start. It's the first one. The Bengals didn't give the Patriots 10, right? That never got to 10? That would have been the closest one.

Yeah, it's the first one. This is the farewell start for Jacoby Brissett. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You said this was the last one. He said it his first one. This is the farewell start for Jacoby Brissett. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You said this was the last one he sits. This is it.

Drake May will be the starter for week five against Miami. Okay. I am predicting that. I think that's the right move. Let's get him out there. Let's see what he's got.

Don't be scared out by the Bryce Young thing. Maybe think more CJ Stroud last year. Just get him out. Have him run around. I think it'll be okay. I think that's fair.

What's that game again? What's the game five? The week five? Game five is home for Miami. It's perfect. Okay, great. Here's your competition. Skylar Thompson.

Skylar Murray. Yeah. Just be better than Skylar Murray Thompson. Maybe you should hyphenate Skylar Murray Thompson. I love that. Cardinals are at home for the Washington Seawords. And I was surprised. I bumped this to cards minus four.

See, now you're making a run here. I think it's four and a half. Yeah, it's four and a half. I said three and a half. So you get it. I think there's a cards parlay with some adjusted under, I think is worth considering. Because both of those teams score points.

Like cards, money line, and you take the under. Oh, I see. I mean, I'm sorry, the over, but you adjust it down. So it's like over 40 and just parlay that together. That's a high over. Is that the highest over the week? Is it over 50?

49 and a half but that's the highest of the week. I guess it might be one, two versus secondaries. So get that down to like 42

something like that. Not bad. Two good garbage time touchdown teams too. Where the game's over but they're just driving like it's the for sure last poopfecta game

is pooptastic Raiders Browns it is a spilled portage on a poop it's in Vegas I have no idea who should be favored I almost wanted to Ra Raiders pick them,

but I did Raiders minus one. I did Raiders minus two. It's Browns minus one and a half. Wow. Not surprised. You get that. Of course. You love the Raiders on a teaser

getting more than a touchdown. No, you'll never see that on the Raiders. Ever. Especially after Love the Raiders on a teaser getting more than a touchdown. No, you'll never see that on the Raiders. Ever. Especially after the coach coming out and just bashing the players in 2024. I don't know if that works. When the coach has basically done nothing, it's not like he's a three-time Super Bowl champ. He won a couple games last year down the stretch.

Now he's just calling guys out, taking shots. Yeah. It just doesn't work. We have lots of evidence in the last five, six years that this is a bad strategy. Yeah.

Coach, I appreciate the criticism, but I don't know if you remember, you punted on fourth and one from 43 last week. Six days ago. Coach, I'm sorry

I didn't try as hard this week, but I still can't believe you punted from the 40-yard line. So I made some business decisions today. I will say this. If you bet on this game, you might need to go to a meeting. Well, they gave us...

They're doing better. It's 8-4. 1 p.m. kickoffs and 4 p.m.s or 4.25, whatever. So So yeah, there are other games. You don't need to do this one. We have this little outdoor area in my house and I didn't want to put a TV out there. And then my wife was like, put on a TV. I know you're going to use it. We should put one out there. I'm like, all right, fine. I was out there for the weight games today. It was just, I felt like a new man. It's really nice because you're just sitting indoors watching TV for, you know, 10 hours and just to be outdoors for three hours watching a TV with

the little four box on it. I was like, this is great. I'm having a great time. It does make you feel a little less shitty about yourself, yeah it really does there's really does i'm sorry about this but i've only heard about this but there's the leaving the strip club when it's light out feeling like oh boy what's what where's my life and then there's you know a little further further down is what about what about still playing blackjack when they're vacuuming under the table that yeah which you've personally witnessed with me multiple times. That would have been a better example I should have used. I'm sorry. It was a little sketchy.

Fortunately, we're not live. Same place. Vegas. Sunday night. Ravens-Bills. This is a really good game. Great game. Lamar Jackson. These two guys.

You think you have them stop, Mike. You think you got them, and they just pull a play right out of their butt cheeks, Mike. Right out of your butt. You try to tackle them, Mike. They're going on the field now. You do everything right, and he just plows over you and gets four more yards, Mike. That was a great play. I will say the first first down, when he held the ball, he deked the director and everyone and the announcer still.

Brady still thinks that it was a sweep left. And then the pass was third and six to Flowers. He pulled it out. That's what he lives for, you know. He lives for those moments. Yeah, those moments. those moments i have ravens minus three against buffalo i think we've split this it's two and a half i said two oh wait let's add these up one two three i have to be winning come on eight two three four

you're winning by two one of the mond Monday night games, they have two again. One, I'm off by one and a half points. So you could wrap it up with this first one. Damn it. Two Monday night games again. The first one stinks. Dolphins-Titans. Skylar Thompson against Sky...

No, what do we call him? Skylar Murray-Thompson. Skylar Murray-Thompson. Skylar Murray-Thompson. Against Will Levis. The Titans fired Mike Vrabel, replaced him with a guy

who's like, Will Levis is my guy. Malik Willis goes to this other team and somehow they've rejuvenated him in two weeks and it's not going great for Tennessee.

Is there a Malik Levis? Because that would, that's another interesting. That would get super confusing. Oh man, so confusing. I, man. So confusing. I have the Dolphins favored by two and a half over the Titans. Son of a bitch.

You were way off. But I was way-er off. I said minus three. Tennessee's favored by one and a half. Oh, my God. It's almost like they saw Skyler Thompson play quarterback today. Jesus. But Levis again favored.

How the mighty have fallen. This is unbelievable. The Dolphins are getting points against Will Levis in week four. All right, I got to see something. Is Will Levis, was he favored three times this year got to see something. Was Will Levis favored three times this year? No, he wasn't favored against the Bears, was he? Twice. Was he favored

against the Bears? No. So I wrapped it up. Yeah. All right, Monday night. Second game. Pretty good one. Lions against the Seahawks. The Seahawks a little banged up, so I bumped this a little toward the Lions. I had the Lions by five.

We're going to split it. I said four. It's four and a half. So you win 10 to eight. Wait, we have one more bonus bet. Go ahead. Tuesday night, midnight, East Coast time. The premiere of Mr. McMahon on Netflix.

Oh, yeah. Home game time. The premiere of Mr. McMahon on Netflix. Oh, yeah. Home game against the Menendez brothers. What? Six episodes. The monster, the Menendez brothers. That's on Netflix right now. Mr. McMahon. I don't know who's favorite in that.

Mr. McMahon. I mean, there's two Menendez brothers. Yeah, so that's like a double. Well, can I just say this on your behalf? The Menendez brothers say don't watch it. They are not happy with how they were portrayed. So, yeah, I don't know. Maybe Mr. McMahon isn't either.

But let me just say I saw it. Thank you for the advanced screening. I fucking loved it. It's like crack cocaine to me. And I loved it. I want to. I don't think you had anything to do with it. No, it was great.

It was great. You picked all the perfect spots. Let me just say that. And I also thought it was fair. That's all I'm going to say. I appreciate it. We're really proud of it. I'm trying not to say too much, but it premieres Wednesday on Netflix.

Your birthday. Yeah, weirdly my birthday, but it's really Wednesday on Netflix is really late night Tuesday. So people on the West Coast, they're going to be like, oh, I'm just going to watch the first one. And I'm telling you, you're going to watch at least four. It's impossible to watch the first one and stop. Plan on doing three and three. Yeah, three

and three or four and two. It'll be one of those. Mr. McMahon is coming on Netflix September 25th. We're going to take one more break and do a little Parent Corner. Thanks again to Workday for sponsoring this segment. Be a finance and HR rock star with Workday. To learn more, visit workday.com.

All right, Parent Corner, what do you got, Sal? Well, this isn't earth shattering, but this is something I want to discuss. So my youngest 10 year old Harris O disappointed me. He actually like burned a little in my stomach when he told me what he had done the other day. And he's in a couple of fantasy leagues, 10 years old, two fantasy leagues, more than enough. And he offered his friend to trade. And he told me about it. And he offered to give him Zach Ertz, Ladd McConkie and an extra defense of his.

He's like you. He dressed like four defenses for no reason. So Ertz, McConkie and a defense, I can't remember who, for C.D. Lamb.

And I had to have a talk with him and I was like, listen, don't be that guy. Don't be that little dickhead. You need to learn this right now. Yes. Even at age 10, you can't be this guy. Don't be that little dickhead. You need to learn this right now, even at age 10. You can't be this guy.

People will hate you. First of all, there's a problem. He's like, well, he's getting three. I'm getting one. It's like, that doesn't matter. He's going to have to cut two guys. You're giving him crap for, he would have drafted these idiots

two weeks ago if he wanted them instead of CeeDee Lamb. You have to, you have to do it. This is a more important lesson than respecting your elders or just being able to practically change a flat tire. You have to offer sensible fantasy trades. If I leave you one thing in life, just please do that. Don't be that.

You will lose friends over it. People will make fun of you and it's not worth it. And he looked at me like I was nuts. And he's like, well, what am I supposed to do? My team. So I was like to start dropping defenses first and pick up the white running back on the chiefs or do something like that. But don't offer.

Pick up the guy who gets tackled by the first guy every time he's running. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Sister had a every time he's running. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. His sister had a wedding while he was running the ball. But, uh, I think this was,

I think this is a valuable lesson, right? Like I think this is, this is my parent. Don't be that guy lessons for a 10 year old. Like don't have a crush on the girl that your buddy likes. Yes. Don't do that.

That's a, that's a huge one. Right. Um, don't leave the strip club when it's light oh no no we already hit that no don't uh i don't know i mean i wanted to start with this i think fantasy is important and if he's going to do this for another 40 or 50 years if people do that to him it's one thing just don't i want to know that i raised you the right way you should tell him don't be like uncle br Brad and draft eight running backs. Have we talked about that on the podcast?

I don't think we did our fantasy league at all, our draft or anything. Our friend Brad, who... I wouldn't say he's playing with a full deck. Is that fair? It's fair. He's going to kill you, but it's before your birthday, so good for you.

That's true. So that's why I didn't say it. No, it's too full. I think the deck is too full. Let's say that. I think he's playing with like 57 cards. He has 56 points today with James Cook left in the docket, but he took eight running backs. So he has James Cook, Ramond Dre Stevenson, Rasheed White, Najee Harris, Tony Pollard, Aaron Jones, Josh Jacobs, and Brian Robinson Jr.

are all on his 18-person team. And we think it's hilarious because every week he's going to just try to figure out which two. So this week Aaron Jones is on his bench who had 21 points. Yeah. And instead he started Ramondre Stevenson who had 0.3 points. 0.3. This is why you don't have eight running backs.

You're never going to throw the dart right down the middle on this. Even I wouldn't do this strategy. No, you wouldn't do this. You're right. You have more integrity. But the better part of it was, I think that it was an auction draft

and it was like eight of the first 25 guys. So if there was a running back, he was right. And a lot of times, I nominate James Cook for $15. And he's like, who the fuck is that? And then he bid on him.

He'd take him from me. Like, what are you doing? He was trying to psych us out. He's demeaning the bid and then he would bid on the guy it was an interesting way to do it i'm gonna have harrison trade with him cross league if it's possible it's the only way it's gonna work my parent corner uh my wife said i couldn't do so i'm gonna have to do a historical parent corner yeah we're going back 10 years 10 years exactly

to when you and I did a podcast together that ended with me getting suspended for 3 weeks from ESPN is it 10 years? on your birthday it was a Monday we used to tape the podcast on a Monday afternoon

it was a couple days when the whole Ray Rice thing was happening. And all of a sudden, Ray Rice was suspended indefinitely because that TMZ video came out of him assaulting his girlfriend and Goodell suspended him again.

And then there was a whole thing, there was a big piece about it, about how Goodell suspended him indefinitely because there was information he didn't know when he met with Rice. But then Rice was like, no, no, I told you that I actually physically struck with. So basically Adele suspended him twice. And I was pointing it out.

And I was saying, if he claims he didn't know what happened on that tape, he's a liar. Got a little carried away. And the whole thing happened. Suspended for three weeks. And we didn't get to do guess the lines. Right. But we were doing old school. We were on the, we were, we were on the phone doing it that way. And then I came back three weeks later. Yeah.

You got one call. You got one free call. You were my one call every week. By the way, I was right. He did. He did lie because Ray Rice definitely told him in the meeting what happened and then he somehow got suspended but if you remember ray rice then got exonerated from the second suspension right he overruled it yeah just pointing that out now youtube's gonna suspend you three weeks that's great well here's the thing so my kid my daughter was i think nine and she came home from school and it was, you know, people were talking about this and she's like, daddy, what happened to your work? People were saying like,

you got, you got in trouble and just was really upset about it. And, uh, and now I feel like if it happened now, she wouldn't care at age 19. Probably wouldn't even find out for like another two weeks well ben was really upset no i don't even think ben knew that knows that i have a job but definitely but anyway when stuff like that happens you don't realize like there's this whole family piece of it too right right yeah hey you're right what's happening and then your kids are like what's happening are we gonna going to lose our house? Are we, like, you know, this is a nine-year-old. Well, that just, you were already

angry. Yeah. Understandably so. And then when the family members who you don't think are going to be affected are, it makes it ten times worse. Stupid. And for what? Remember, we used to tape the pod. It would be like, because you would have like the Jimmy Kimmel talking points. Yeah. we used to tape the pod. It would be like,

because you would have like the Jimmy Kimmel talking points. Yeah. And we would tape the podcast about the Sunday games at like Monday at like 2 o'clock West Coast time. Yeah, right. And like hustle it up in the game.

Meanwhile, the Monday Night Game was about to start. Now we're doing a live on YouTube. Anyway, that's how much things change. Unbelievable. We are, that's it for things change. Unbelievable. We are, that's it for Parent Corner. What else do we have to talk about? Anything?

That's it. I'm trying to think. We did the Emmys last week. Got, got for me through the ringer with Tate on Wednesdays.

Cousin Sal's winning weekend Friday. Mina Kimes is a guest. Ringer pregame show. Always great fun. Mina Kimes was on Family Feud. She was, right? She was. Chang had her on uh ringer pregame show always great fun mina is on family feud she was right she was she chang had her on on a family feud with pablo and a whole bunch of bunch oh i didn't know

well she got she famously won chang a million dollars or helped oh yeah on millionaire yeah so did kim ever do family feud no i don't think so. I mean, I would have known. Yeah. He should, right? You would have been on it, right? So who would have been his five? It would have probably been me and Chippy. Maybe Cousin Mickey. Cousin Mickey would have to have

been one of the five. Yeah, but she couldn't do the Fast Money. And then Jonathan? Couldn't do that. Yeah, maybe Jonathan or... I wonder why he never did that. Yeah, we got to do that.

He should do that. Do that while Chippy can... Can still probably get in trouble. Wheel her out. In a family feud thing. She can curse Steve Harvey. Also, I should mention, against all odds,

twice a week, bring your podcast network. The Parlay Kid is going for 14 in a row baseball picks. I know people forgot about baseball, and he's had some pluses in there. He never goes higher than minus 130, and he's made money for a lot of people.

Of course not for himself because he feels like he's going to jinx it, so check that out on Against All Odds. I feel like Otani was single-handedly bringing baseball back last week. Oh, yeah. That was the first time baseball seemed to cross over into some sort of people texting each other

to see what's going on with Otani. And then he had the third one. But I had that list for you, actually. We forgot to talk about Brandon Aubrey, your kicker. There'll be plenty of other weeks to do it. Well, think about this for next week. The people who are the absolute best at their jobs.

Because I feel like he is by far the best field goal kicker now. And Otani is by far the best baseball player. Would you say Mahomes is by far the best quarterback?

Best at their job in sports? Best at their job compared to everyone else they're competing with. Bill, I got to say me here. I don't know. You're leaving me out.

I want to think about that because there are people who still claim it's Connor McDavid. Oh, he's a good one too. So Aubrey today, he had an onside kick. And it's like, well, clearly he's going to do an incredible onside kick. He's Aubrey. And then, of course, they somehow get the ball back. They set him up for a 65-yarder. They're like, yeah, send him out. 65 yards. Boom. Nails that. And Brady, I thought was his best point when he was saying he was kind of like Steph Curry. There's no range

for him anymore. And I was like, you're right. There's never been a field goal kicker where it's like, oh, 72. Yeah, he could probably make this. Yeah. We as fans were mad when they passed on the 71 yarder at halftime a couple weeks ago because the special teams coach said no. But the only thing that's going to suck with Aubrey is next year, late August, when he's holding out

for $25 million. And then Jerry gives him $35 million in September. But other than that, I'm really excited. Your whole salary cap is four guys. And then a bunch of been rough things. All right, Sal.

I will see you next week live on YouTube. Good job by you. All right. Don't get suspended. Good job by you, buddy. That's it for the podcast. Thanks to Cousin Sal. Thanks to Steve Cerruti and Kyle Creighton as always. And don't forget, you can watch

this podcast that we just did on the Bill Simmons YouTube forget, you can watch this podcast that we just did on the Bill Simmons YouTube channel. You can watch the rewatchables when it goes up on Monday night

on the Ringer Movies YouTube channel. You can listen to it. But I will be back on this feed on Tuesday. So see you in a couple days.

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