The Bill Simmons Podcast - Adam Sandler and Kevin Garnett on 'SNL' Casts vs. NBA Teams, 'Uncut Gems', the Iverson Era, and Breaking LeBron | The Bill Simmons Podcast

Episode Date: December 18, 2019

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Adam Sandler, Kevin Garnett here. I don't know who I'm more excited to talk about. What do you guys have in common? You guys have been spending a lot of time together. Basketball. We love talking hoops. We love talking film. We both share that.

We're both visionaries. I think you know more about film than I know about basketball, though. No. You're pretty good. I'm a fan of it all. He knows a lot, though. KG knows a lot about what's going on. So how did he prove this to you just said we had a conversation yeah three or four good plane rides together too you learn a lot being there six hours going and coming you know why he

knows a lot about movies because he's an nba player like you're stuck in suites and planes and it's like you can go out and do stuff not Not even that, but black culture is like reciting, a lot of our swag comes from New Jack City or Boys in the Hood or Menaces to Society. So those colors, that swag, you're a bop, almost like, comes from movies. You being able to crack jokes, reciting jokes, Billy Madison, you know.

Real movies that we consider culture. I've been there. I've been there. You know, like, a lot of that comes from that. So, you know, you grow up watching movies. When did you feel like you became part of that culture? What do you mean? Like, you were doing well enough as a basketball player

that you started to feel like you were involved in everything else that was going on. Like you were getting famous enough. Was it like with Steph in Minnesota? No, I felt like I was part of the culture probably like in 93 when people start to, when I start to see younger kids start to either have the jersey on. I think Steph and Chauncey brought the part in the middle. So we all kind of copied that. And then all of a sudden, next thing I know,

95, wherever I go on this NBA, felt like an NBA tour, which was my rookie year. But every city I would go to, the ball kids would pull me to the side and I'd be in a deep conversation with the ball kids about just how I got here and what was the workout like? And man, how did you even get here? How did you even know?

And I was just answering all these weird questions. Then the next year, AI, Steph, and kind of like my friends, my personal friends, Paul came like two, three years ago. After that, Vince started coming in. Now all of my friends are in the league. But I'm starting to see that the wave in which we all are riding in this cultural wave and how we dress and how we talk, do rags, you know, baggy pants, you know, Jordan, like the whole, the whole, all of it. Start to catch up with us to where I start seeing it being copied in the streets and young kids.

And yeah, that's when I knew like, okay, I'm a part of this culture. I remember Iverson's first couple of years, people were like, you know, the white fan base was like, what's this? What's going on? What's going on with this guy? They just didn't know what to do with him. They were used to Jordan. They were used to Jordan being polished. And they were used to professional players being professional.

And, you know, you heard about Charles missing practice and being drunk and doing all this wild stuff. But he didn't come in with cornrows. He didn't come in with a swag thousand chains hanging out. Like, it was just a different group of guys. I loved Iverson. I couldn't believe it. One of the toughest. I'm an all-time Iverson defender.

Me too. Because, like, the advanced metrics era, they look at the stats, and they're like, well, actually, if you look at his stats, it's like, no, I was there. You can't. You're not Swayman Iverson. Most exciting guy, yeah, when he did something, even on defense when he picked somebody's pocket or whatever.

I just was always rooting for him too. Phenomenal athlete. The people don't know that he's a freak of nature. Yes. Better football player than basketball player. Right, right. Just too frail and a little smaller. So he's six feet?

What's Iverson? It was like 5'10". 5'10". Had some spring on him. A lot of people don't know, man. He was a huge football player. That's why he was so tough. When you would hit him, he'd tell you, I'm coming back. Y'all know I'm coming back. I'm going to shoot these two and I'll be

back in the next play. What year was it when he took one from the Lakers? 01. That was the only playoff loss they had that year he took one from the Lakers? 01. 01. That was the only playoff loss he had that year. He did that to himself. You know,

on the flip side of that, Randy Moss was supposedly an amazing basketball player. Absolutely. He was on the same team as Wade Chubb. You played ball with everybody.

I played ball with Randy Moss. I mean, I didn't really play. I was running up and down the court. I was so happy when they didn't pass it to me.

I was just like, get it to Randy, man. But yeah, he's fast. He can jump. And I don't know how, I haven't seen it to me. I was just like, get it to Randy, man. But, yeah, he's moving up. He's fast. He can jump. And I don't know how – I haven't seen that. That jump shot ain't so – ain't so – but he was very, very much versatile, very agile.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, White Chocolate would always say that he was head-manning, like kind of throw the ball ahead of him, put a little air on it. Yeah, right. Because he would outrun it. Almost like football. Oh, yeah, sure. So he would have to put a little air on it. Yeah, right. Because he would outrun it. Almost like football. Oh, yeah, sure. So we have to put a little air on it.

You know, Adam's famous for having basketball things at his movies. Yeah. So he can torch like the key grip. I get it. Hi, kid, you got to be the fat producer. Too old, too 80 and up. I play. I look to play.

Weight restriction or something. Yeah, whoever's too big to move, I go, hey, you want to play? I don't play. Come on, come on. It's you and Clooney. Clooney was the other one who did that. I don't think he plays anymore because he's hurt. But Clooney was another one who was always doing.

He's hurt? What's wrong with him? He hurt his back. He hurt his back. But he was another one who every set, there was like some half court set built. Right, exactly. I did that. But I swear to you, the only reason I do that is I got to move.

When you're shooting a movie, you get so tired all day long. You got to exercise. I hate it at most exercise. Basketball is the only one I have fun with. So I get two on twos, three on threes every day. I didn't in our movie. We didn't have time to. This was a low budget.

We didn't have time. Diamond District most of the time. Exactly. There was no way to play. We had a hoop up. We had a hoop and it served its purpose. It was a low budget. Right. We didn't have time. Diamond District most of the time. Exactly. There was no way to play. We had a hoop up. We had a hoop and it served its purpose. It was cool. Yeah.

Shooting around. You've been quietly. How many sports movies for you? Like five? Yeah, a lot. I get excited. I'm not counting grownups, even though it has a pivotal basketball scene. That's a little basketball.

Exactly. Pivotal. It's tough one for Chris Rock. A lot of editing to move around. We got Chris there. Yeah. He was like the glue guy of the team, but not really bringing a lot. Sent some pics.

Gave us the jokes. Who is the most underrated one, though? Who can actually play? Let me tell you, the only guy, he's not the best basketball player, but Kevin James is the best fighter of all of us. He could really. I was going to say, he's kind of athletic. He's an athlete.

He's a great football player. Oh, I can see that, though. And he fights. He trains for MMA. He's so tough, it's crazy. Really? I'm not kidding you. He's ridiculously tough.

Holy crap. And benches. He's constantly working out. He's a nut. They always said Farley was secretly a good athlete, too. Same thing, right? Great football player. Super coordinated.

Could play hoop. Could do it all. Farleyley amazing football player fast i could see that one time me and farley got that went at it a little bit got a little hostile with each other and he grabbed me kind of hard picked me up in a funny way but he like all my body kind of cracked and i was like oh okay yeah you were losing killing he could kill me i didn't know i thought in. And I was like, oh, okay. You were losing the win. He could kill me. I didn't know. I thought in my head, I was like, maybe if it went to him, maybe I'd have a shot at it. I was like, oh, no, no. He showed it to you, right?

Yeah, he let me know. So did you feel any parallels? Your movie career starts in 95, and his NBA career starts in 95. Are you serious? Whoa. We've been doing it together, KG. And then that's it. It's like you were on these parallel these parallel courses and

then finally boom holy snow 2018 what was your reaction when you found out kg was going to be in the movie because mine was what the fuck is going on did you just compete a movie so yeah i'm sure i'm sure that's what kg fell to i don't know if i was excited i knew it was cool i knew the fact that it was uh the movie was set in 2012, that automatically felt kind of neat. That's an odd year to pick to go to. And then the fact that I knew I would see KG on television and go, KG still looks like the guy who's still playing ball, still looks good.

Yeah, you're like the Angela Bassett of retired NBA players. You know what? I take care of myself. Yeah, he does. You look exactly the same. Listen, when someone says it's what you put into it, it's very much so. You know, I don't necessarily drink and I don't really tarnish my body. I don't think that, you know, you go throughout these years and, you know, and do things the right way and then all of a sudden you retire,

you start doing them left. Like, no, I'm in a routine. I like staying in that. Every day? Every day every day you get it money through friday i got you monday friday i actually i have my little regiment you know the thing is i can't really like i like to actually sprint i like to do sprints and what i call a truck out and the legs like no we can't we can't pump out like we used to all right gotcha i found ways to be able to you know mimic it but it's it's not like the same but yeah i have a lot of friends with the celtics when they got kg yeah they were just like this guy is absolutely a maniac with work and every single

shootout practice he has to win he's super super intense. The year before, I think we were like 20 and 62 or something. That's when they was putting the bags over their head. Trying to tank for the Kevin Durant lottery, which we ended up getting the fifth pick. And then it ends up getting traded and then he shows up and then the culture shifts

but it was like just day after day of like, this guy's just saying all he wants to do. So how do you channel that now, now that you're retired? You don't necessarily channel it down. I think you take that energy and you put it into other things. You know, being honest. Like backgammon?

Not saying that you, something like that, right? But you put it into, I'll be honest, it's very challenging. You don't really find anything that's close to what you're leaving. Yeah. You can't simulate a game without, right, nine other players. Right. You know, so I don't necessarily go to gyms and play with, like, subpar people just because I want to play basketball.

Right. For a time, I was training some of the younger guys in the league. And then I kind of quit that. When you train them, do you run with them? Not all of the running, but these days, a lot of the kids have been curated to not. Like when I came into the league, you had to do like maybe a 60, maybe 65, 70-minute workout by yourself. You do it with a coach and you free throws are in here. Today's workout is like 20 to 15 minutes.

Guys can't focus. Why are they allowed to do that? Guys can't focus. And guys can't push through nothing. So when they get to a point where it starts to hurt or they get to a point, they let go. And, you know, when you work out and you're doing something for 60 minutes, think about if you're doing something for, let's say, 45 minutes, okay?

Just by yourself. Usually if you and I are doing a workout, you get a chance to go, I get a chance to go. You get a chance to go, I get a chance to go. You're doing it by yourself, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going. Next drill, free throws, I'm going. That's right. The part of that is to build up your endurance to where you get to the

fourth quarter. You're like, God. Yeah. It's like you gather mentally a second wind and you push through that. You know, you can't teach that doing that in 20 minutes intervals, 15 minutes with free throws. Yeah. It was hard for me to be able to mimic that. Giannis, I got to work with him for a couple of years.

He has it, right? He has an old school mentality of really wanting to push that. Giannis, I got to work with him for a couple years. He has it, right? He has an old school mentality of really wanting to push through. But, you know, again, you have this nuances lead where they want to do low management.

And when low management is in the equation, everything is out. You can't do anything. It's like, nah, you got to come back tomorrow. We'll do that.

And then he's, you can only do him, you can only do that for 10 minutes. And then we have to, so all of that. Who's coming up with those rules? Well, the NBA is just figuring this. If we're not putting you through the physical,

because now we can't hand check and all this, all the physical aspect of the game has kind of alluded itself to the size. It's a physical aspect there, but not as impactful. Like I can't come up and hit you and slow you down. And LeBron coming hit you and sew you down and LeBron coming at you and you try to brace it and you try to hit him, y'all hit like this and they ain't gonna call nothing.

No, not anymore. It's freedom of movement. People want to see the score be high. People want to come to the game and see like an all-star game. And you start to see all the physicality leading game. KG's out on the new generation. That was my cliff notes to that.

Well, I'll be this you have to adjust um things that we did as kids our kids are probably not doing right real talk like you have to appreciate the 80s 70s 80s 90s and then you know you you have to adjust to what this new generation is you can't sit up and talk about, oh, man, y'all, y'all soft. And I'm soft. It's playing a whole different way because the rules are set up for them to play that way. So we have to all make that adjustment.

I think Giannis has it. LeBron, I've been amazed by, what is it, year 17 or 18, and he's as physically dominant as he's ever been. I bet that, going so hard. Giannis, too, when I saw Milwaukee play the Knicks last year, and i was uh i went to that game you were there in new york just driving to the hole full steam ahead like

so many times in a row and it's intimidating i'm sure to be out there and you're like do i take this but how about he doesn't get hurt just keeps just keeps landing right, doesn't get up. But when you see him work out, he's a freak of nature in the sense of his first superpower, as I always say, his superpower is to make you quit. He wants to dominate you to the point where he wants to step on you. Like, that's his mentality. That's an old school mentality. A lot of these new kids, they know each other. They dab, they hug. You know, you can see, they know each other. They dab. They hug. You can see the swing through move. I hate it.

They don't react to the swing through. You react. When someone swings through and goes for the right hook, you react to that. I see some kids watch the move and it just don't look like it's the swing. When you're really going at it, you, oh man, look, they going at it. And then the referees are watching. They're not even watching it.

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and posing for pictures. Right, right, yeah, yeah. KG wouldn't sign up for that. Not even that, but when I got to Boston, we decided that we was going to, our culture was going to be this. We were going to be the season. Ubuntu.

Ubuntu, absolutely. And it started with our coach. Explain Ubuntu. Ubuntu is a it, Buntu. Buntu is an African proverb, and it's basically started in African villages. And as you know, some of these villages will have less than. But if you have food, if you have blankets, and then I have something, and I brought it, and we all shared that, then it will bring all of us together. But we all had something. Look, Adam had the blanket. We under the blanket. We bought the food. Now we eating out the food. I

got the silverware. And then it became like this community thing. So in Butu, man, I can't be as good as I can be unless I help the man to the left or the right of me be the best man he could be. So in that, we went to dinner, we adopted it, and it was an everyday lifestyle. So that if you have something and I didn't have one, hey, here, you have this, or we'll share this. That's great. You didn't have something, and it made everybody kind of give themselves. Yeah.

And it kind of got you to come out of your persona of Bill Simmons or Sandman or Kevin Garnett. No, I'm going to give myself to the team. So you might have six tonight. And Ray Allen has 50. It's his night. Next night, it might be me that has 50. But even when you talk about your squad, you always talk about everybody on the team. That's how you are.

Absolutely. The defining game was Posey and House in game four leading the comeback. That was like the seventh and eighth men. You need eight guys to win a title. Everyone forgets this every year. You need nine guys. Well, nine ideally, but you can do it with eight. No, you can't.

You need nine. You have to minimum nine. Because I say what people don't take into account is injuries. If out of that eight, one gets hurt, somebody has to come in and pick that eighth guy up. And it's usually that ninth guy who's sitting there waiting, and he's sitting there. The Sam Cassell, who's sitting there waiting, and he's sitting there. The Sam Cassell, the P.J. Brown, he's sitting there who's,

man, if I get my chance, like stuff like this. That's what we didn't have in 2010. Because Pert gets hurt in game six. We were two guys short. We was demised when we gave up Posey and then signed T.A. Eddie House left. Man, T.A. was cool out there. Listen, that was all grit.

Perkins, myself, and T.A. was considered the grit of whoever in the post on the perimeter. Then we had scores. You know, Rondo was kind of like a half-tweener guy because he could play defense and he could distribute the ball, but he had a little offense to him. Eddie House came in and gave him kind of like a good mirroring because he had a nice three-point shot, so they kind of

balanced each other out. A rational confidence guy, Eddie House. You got to have one of those guys on the title team. He thinks he's the best guy on the court. As we all did. Our practices was unbelievable. And I loved it because Doc Rivers, his attitude and his persona, his

personality took on our team. And that's who we were. We were like our— The 0-9 team, I thought, was better. Bow your head. You get hurt in Utah. Bow your head. Tell Bill about it.

Man, listen, Doc Rivers would always say some of the most— Oh, man, I don't even want to— You can't say it in public. No, no, no, I'll clean it up. But he used to say some of the most riveting, like just stuff just to make you go through a wall. And then at the end of it, he would always say, bow your head, you know, to say your own prayers.

Because, you know, we was all a different denomination. But he was like, hey, we go out here, and we don't beat this team by 30 tonight. We sure won't just win. Bow your head. He was like, you know, he would say something a little more forceful and we'd be like,

it just had us, it was in our eyes. Like we was going through a wall for him. Can we talk about the game seven game plan against Kobe in 2010 really quickly? We cannot, we cannot. No, just for one second. We cannot. The game plan is,

he wants to be a hero. We don't want to hear this, Bill. He wants to be a hero. We don't want to talk about it. We're going to be a hero. We don't want to talk about it. We're going to double team him. He's going to shoot anyway. You sound like the Southies now. You sound like Josh and Bill.

Benny. Benny, yeah. They want to talk Knicks. Hey, did Amari have time? He had time. They don't want to let this go. The Knicks didn't do anything. I tried to tell them this.

Here's a legitimate question. No, I get it. It's a good question. How do you use Kobe Bryant's ego against him in a game seven it's by saying he's going to want to shoot we're gonna double team him he's still gonna want to shoot and then he's like three for 20 at one point we have him and then he figures out what's going on no spreading it out phil finally was gonna knock his ass out and told him share the ball or we're gonna lose and right as he's going into his ball or we're going to lose.

And right as he's going into his mix and we're sitting there, he's looking at all five of us, tip, tip, tip, round our tip. Oh, wow. And that's what did it. When he starts to share the ball, he starts sharing the ball, they start. He's lining up to take. Like LeBron now with sharing. LeBron likes to share, huh?

Yeah. He's trying to go for the assist title. And he's trying to share. Ron Artest is about to take the three. I was there. All the fans are going, no! They don't want him to take it. Bang.

That loss haunts me. Then they jump on his bandwagon. Oh, I love you. He's a tough guy. Class in LA. We have one more basketball thing and then we're talking about cut jumps 2012

the famous season that's commemorated in this movie yes Derrick Rose gets hurt wow Philly Boston all of a sudden

seems like oh whoever gets out of this Miami who knows Miami hasn't won the title yet so let's get

through Philly Rondo's making threes which maybe in the deleted scenes of the movie maybe a five minute documentary about what the fuck was going on with Rondo's making threes, which maybe in the deleted scenes of the movie, maybe a five minute documentary

about what the fuck was going on with Rondo in that game. Because he made like three or four threes. He was getting better. He was getting better. But those were clutch major threes. He was getting better. Going to the Miami series, 2-2 at Miami game five.

Right. Celts win in Miami and they're talking all kinds of shit to LeBron. Uh-huh. All kinds of shit to LeBron. All kinds of shit that whole game. Correct or incorrect? You're trying to get in his head. You feel like you can break LeBron at this point. We broke LeBron. In game five. So get your ass

out of here with that. You understand how he got to Cleveland, how he got to Miami, Bill? That's true. You broke him into that same. So remember that. Stop bringing that up. So they was talking shit to him. The media and the league knew that they had an agenda in which we wasn't part of the agenda. You understand?

Right. And that's how they ended up winning that series. Yeah, I said it. Do you think you pushed LeBron too far in game five? Pushed too far? Because game six, he was unbelievable. You think you gave him the eye of the tiger? Pushed him too far?

Nothing? Man, listen, let me say something to you. The Cs, we didn't give a fuck about LeBron. We didn't fear LeBron, and we didn't think that he can beat all five of us. And that's how I felt. He wasn't trying to consolidate. He was trying to consolidate because he didn't want the pressure on him. You understand?

See, now we're getting somewhere. See what you did? I'm still mad about it. I feel like we could have beaten them. I'm sure. But we weren't part of the agenda. Yeah. The agenda was Miami.

He wasn't going to Miami to be like Cleveland. Right. You know what I'm saying? Wade did break Rondo's elbow. Tried to. And didn't even get suspended. He tried to. He tried to.

Remember he had the big arm rest? Listen, bro. Listen, that's sensitive to all of us. Listen, a lot of people think that it's sports. If you had D. Wade, Chris Bosh, and LeBron over in this corner, and you had me, T.A., I'm just making these names up, maybe Paul and Rondo right here, it'll be a what's up, and it'll be cool and respect,

but it won't be any, like, frat nods. It ain't going to be like, yo, I'm the family. It won't be none of that. No, it's real. They don't fuck with us. It's forever, huh? We don't fuck with them. But it's cool though.

It's a mutual understanding in which we have respect for each other, but it won't be like when I did the interview with D-Wade, that was me having to interview D-Wade. But part of me, you know, he knows and he knows. And we talked about that off camera and it was an understanding, but everybody knows that that's in there. We go to all-star games, they on that side, we right here. Wow. Yeah, it was real.

Out of the current guys, I feel like Patrick Beverly is one of the only ones trying to keep that alive. Man, is he a- Because there was a whole thing in Summer League in Vegas when he saw those guys, he saw like, I think it was LeBron and Davis and was like very kind of like this, like-

Pat holds it different. You know, when you, listen, I told y'all, man, when you go out and you see a team together and you see 789 guys from one team together, you look at like, what the, and that's how we travel. It didn't all of a sudden 9 turned into 13 and 13. It was our whole team. We had Scott Pollard and Scalabrini with us.

Scalabrini, yeah. Getting dinner, going here. Like we was a family. I ain't going to say gang, but we carried it like that. We would seize over everything. That's real when you're all together. Straight up. We kind of had this on this movie.

We kind of. But you're famously like this as an actor, though. Yes, yes, yes. You're like the KJ. You love to have your people. I like to have my guys around. Makes me more comfortable. And when you're around Adam, he brings everybody together.

Like you joked about the boom guy, 285, wanted to play one. He has everybody in here like feeling like, I tell you, we had everybody out there shooting that one day. Everybody. We had Julia. Julia's out there shooting. I didn't know she had a shot. That was a great day, man.

She had a shot. Yeah. Like an athletic shot. She's going to be a big winner for this movie. She was unbelievable. She's going to have a long career. Can you believe that's the first time? I didn't know who it was. I thought I was in the theater.

I don't know who this is. And then right after, I'm Googling. I'm like, I don't... It's like I know almost everybody. The Safdies find out just by talking to someone if it's going to work or not. They just know they have some great intuition. And when they talk to Kevin, they talk to Kevin like for the first time. It's supposed to be like a five-minute conversation, right? And they talk for hours.

How much of that was about Amari? Like an hour and a half? No, it's just about, you know what? It was about like this. Like they had stuff preloaded that they just needed to get off and just say. And I was like, okay, go ahead and get it off. They're like little kids. They're so excited.

No bull, no bull. But they're real. Like, you're a diehard Celtic. They are diehard Knicks fans. Yeah, yeah. Like, to the core. Like, they don't care. They are amazing like that.

They still think it was enough time for Amari. I was like, would you let this go? Like, nah, you had enough time. Just stay. Like, yeah, Am stay. I'm sorry. Do you think you have a chance to get nominated for this? It seems like they're pushing for it. I don't.

I mean, I don't know. I think there's a really good chance. It would be very lucky. It's like there's so many. The problem is. It's a rough year. Everybody's great, man. Everybody's great.

Every movie I've seen this year,'m like jeez man i saw just honestly like 10 movies that i want this guy's incredible this guy's a girl this guy's a girl so it becomes kind of silly like i hear about it a lot people say talk about it's i've never been talked about like this i guess i'll just win off of just being talked about like that i can't can't see it happening, no. And now it's time for the State Farm Safe Bet Game of the Week. I'm not doing player. I'm not doing team. I'm doing a game of the week.

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The Pats' bills over-under on Saturday is 38 points. I'm just going to walk you through this. The Patriots can't really move the ball against a good defense anymore. There was an alarming stat this week I saw on the Twitter, as the kids call it, from Sheil Kapadia of The Athletic.

He said, Tom Brady last five weeks among the 29 quarterbacks who have thrown at least 100 passes. Completion percentage, he's 29th. Yards per attempt, he's 29th. Net yards per pass play, he's 29th. Yards per attempt, he's 29th. Net yards per pass play, he's 29th. Again, this is out of 29 quarterbacks. Now you have the Bills who have an awesome defense, who, as you saw last week against Pittsburgh, if somebody's offense isn't that good, they're like a cobra. They can constrict on it. I think it's going to be really hard for the Patriots to score in this game. But you know who else is going to have trouble scoring? The Bills of Buffalo.

Because their offense isn't good either. And you saw in Pittsburgh, Josh Allen could barely get it going. Finally made one or two plays to get enough points to pull it out. The Patriots defense, it's not the historically life-changing defense that we thought it might be the first six weeks. But it's still really, really good. It might be the best defense in the league. It's in the top three. They're definitely in the best secondary. It's going to be cold.

I think the Bills are going to have trouble moving the ball. They're going to have trouble running the ball. 38 points. I would be shocked if these teams got to 30. So that's going to be my State Farm Safe Bet of the Week. Not a player, not a coach, not a team. It's this. Don't expect a lot of points, excitement, highlights, anything in this Pats Bills game. You know, you can expect punts and more punts and a couple more punts after that. State Farm, talk to an agent today. What made you want to do this movie? I get excited to do something different. And then when I saw these guys, I saw their other movies, like you.

I saw Good Time. I saw The Letty Cook. I saw Daddy Longlegs. I think I saw all their movies. I was like, how do they do that? I don't know how to make a movie like that. I don't know how to make a movie like that. I wouldn't know how to put shots together like that and make you so tense. And I saw everybody in it was fresh.

Their acting was fresh. And I was like, so when I decided to do it with the guys and got to know them, I kept saying, don't let me influence any of my thoughts with you out of my nerves. You know, calm me down, but don't let it change the way you think because I don't know how you do what you're doing I just want to be in one of your movies and think like you guys the style that they're able to create

and they did it in a good time too it's like this kind of harrowing like you're in your seat and you're nervous even though you're just sitting in a movie theater and you're like everybody says that it's like having too much coffee or something like oh shit too much coffee people say it gave them so much anxiety yeah people would like it was nerve it was like then right but i got the big call yesterday i got a call from and i'm friends with him but i got a call i. I was at Macy's. After we did some stuff, I wanted to pick my daughter up at school,

but I wanted to get hooping before. Across from my kid's school is a good court, but I didn't have any clothes. So I went, man, I don't have any sneakers. I went to Macy's. I'm buying sneakers, shorts. Do you got a double X? They're like, oh, we only have X. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm going to be in a bad mood

because I need double X shorts. But anyways, I'm getting my sneakers, and then I look down at my phone and it's daniel day lewis i'm at macy's at the cash register i'm like oh man daniel day saw the movie man so i pick up hello he's like and he starts love talking about grabbing the seat in front of him he's like i couldn't let go to the seat in front of me and just saying how much he dug the movie. He dug you. He dug the guys. But it was the best call ever.

I said, Danny, you know, this is going to make. Danny? You're on a Danny name basis? I know Danny a long time, so I get to call him Danny. It's a good feeling. Every time it comes out of my mouth, I go, Danny. And I feel like I said it. I called him Danny.

But he gave me the compliments, and it was the best. That's what's up. Well, he's an Irish guy. I mean, of course he should be called Danny. But he gave me the compliments and it was the best. That's what's up. Well, he's Irish guy. I mean, of course he should be called Danny. Danny boy. I call him Danny boy. He is the coolest dude. Who are other people, famous actors who are secretly way cooler than somebody like me would know?

Because that one. That one. That's somebody I never would have thought would have been a cool guy. I'm telling you, hanging out with Danny, Danny Day, Danny boy, eating with him. Every bite of his food is like a succulent, calm, cool. And then he says something. And I'm like a little baby just watching. I'm like, okay, he's talking to me again.

Okay. And then we're laughing. I'm like, I think Danny's laughing at what I said. What a wonderful feeling. Did he really retire? I don't know. I don't get into that with him. I guess he did, though.

Said he did. Wow. No, he doesn't want to make any more movies. Really? Guy's the best. He did enough. I get it. What else is he going to do?

He'll be back. Maybe he'll be back. I hope so. Actors aren't like hoop players. Hoop players, when it's time, it's time. Man, you guys don't ever shoot the ball again when you stop. Me neither. I stopped too.

You know what it is? It's that you have time to actually do other things. For so long, before you get to the pros, basketball is a great diversion from your real life. You can grab a ball, stress with a girlfriend, have problems at home, don't want to go home, whatever it is. Basketball would be kind of that therapy to grab your ball and just disappear, right? When it becomes your job and you get into a mindset of being professional,

being prepared, being ready, and all these other things that go into it, it changes. It changes not necessarily to love because you still do it because you love it, but you got to pay attention to these things that are on here that you got to actually set as primary. You can't just, you know, you can't sleep. I grab the ball, go out, you know, it just changes all of those elements for us so that when you actually get your free time because you don't have a lot of time to do things you want, then when you retire, your first ideal is to try things that you would like or passion or other passions and chasing those passions. You can always grab the ball.

Can you ever be as passionate about something else that you were about basketball? Yes, but not as good because you haven't put those time in. I can sit and watch soccer all day and feel passionate, be jumping up and down on it. But we went out and played soccer. You'd be like, what the hell are you doing and what is that? But I can sit here and say that I have passion for watching it and wanting to play, but I'm damn near no good at all.

I talked to Steve Kerr about this once. He said the thing that he missed the most was the locker room. The guys. Of course. And the guys. Of course. And just being part of something. And then that was the part he had the toughest time of place.

That's the same thing with making a movie. Yeah. Same thing with making a movie. You get close. Super close. Say it's a 40-day shoot. I swear to God, when you're on day 36, you start seeing everybody going, this is going to end.

I'm not going to be around this. It's like almost being in college or something. Yeah. It's the best. It's the best. And then like I am doing right now, I'm calling my guys up going, what are we doing next,

man? I got to get the hell out there again. I like working. It's fun. I like clicking with the, with the team and being there and sitting in your house. I like being with my family. I love that.

But I do, my head spins about, I think I'm supposed to be working right now. I don't know what the hell I'm doing right now. I'm sure the Saturday Night Live experience probably planted that seed, right? Because you're with all your dudes for four years. For sure, yeah. That's best friends. That's, like you said, walking around together as a group. We went out to dinner.

Yeah, if someone else killed on the show, you're like, yeah, we had a good show. The show was rocking. It wasn't just like, I got to kill him. Yeah, I need my time. We were all kind of like loving each other. And shit, I do miss that the most. The dinners, the Tuesday night dinners, the Wednesday night dinners, just fucking being the guys being that team

you're talking about excellence so Barkley and Shaq kind of went in on a bead last week and it was a really interesting moment

because they were right they were like if you want to be great you have to be great all the time and the stuff KG was talking about before Giannis wants to be great

if you see Giannis and you're a fan in Atlanta or Charlotte or Dallas or Phoenix, wherever you're going to see him, he's going to be fucking awesome. You saw KG in his prime. Guess what? He was doing 25 and 12. And he was going to be playing hard or harder than everybody else in the court. And Embiid's not there yet.

And those guys, I thought that was a really genuine moment. He's just not ready for it yet. It's not even that. I heard him say this himself. You can go back and you can go back and see this. He's so worried about being as fresh as he can be during the playoffs. Right. Listen, listen, man. Let me say something.

Tonight when we go to this game, the starting five, the starting five, the ten players that are on the court, along with the four guys that's going to come off the bench and the other four guys, everybody's hurt. It might be his elbow, his toe, somebody,

somebody's hurt. You don't have knee braces on for nothing. You don't have an ankle brace and an elbow brace for nothing. So, being fresh is out of the box. First off, you play 82 games. Let's back it up. Ten season open game preseasons that don't even count.

Those are to warm you up for the night in, night out, to get your rhythm, to get your rhythm, right? Then you play 82 games. This is what the prideful part of my generation and what we took on. You had to be a special person to go through 10 preseason games, 82 games, and then playoffs, and then you bring it? Right, yeah. You're special.

You know why? Mentally, you know how to push through. Your heart, excuse my French, ladies, your balls. Yeah. You know what kind of confidence I'm talking this shit in here? I got 13, 14 other niggas looking at me, and I'm in here like, hey, look, we finna go out here and kill these niggas.

KG, it's game 110. So what? Yeah. Grip up, nigga, fall in. If you need help,

say it. So I'm just like, yeah, and that was our curation. If I ain't got it, truthfully, he's saying the same thing. Here come Ray.

Here come Doe. Here come, and we riding off that. This is why the Boston fans love this. Listen, bro. Yeah, yeah. You don't get a pass by taking a shortcut. Right.

Can't fool fans when it comes to putting everything into it. Yeah. And that's what he's doing. He's just great. Listen, first off, you got, everybody's not great. It's just good, but they are not great. I get tired of hearing this. I don't consider someone

a Hall of Famer if he's never been to the finals or never played in the Game 7 or never actually been on top of the hill. That's just my own two cents. And that's what he looks like. He looks like he's,

he's just doing enough. Can you imagine if he was all out? If he was just going through the road, man, he wouldn't even be on it. Well, the game after they called him out, he had 38. That's what I'm trying to tell you. So now you got to get in his ass like this for him. Come on, man.

Come on, man. You're the best player on our team. Yeah. Come on, man. That's unacceptable. The best thing with him when you're going against him is when he's 25 feet from the basket. You're like, this is great. Please stay out there.

Listen, we have nobody who can defend you. The worst thing can happen for him is that he hits two of them. Not one of them. Two of them. You know why? Because now he's going to keep on shooting. You know what you're saying? Sure.

And then you know what you do? Oh, no. Gotcha. Oh, he made it. And your coach over there says, oh, my God, thank you. Oh, my God, I'm glad he made it. Because now you don't have to double team, triple team. You have none of that.

And that's his power he has to understand that he is the most dominant player in our league physically and play like that I don't know if it's going to happen

listen you think Shaq would have let any center off the hook yeah yeah no you know it's bad when Shaq and Barkley are going at you

for not taking basketball seriously because Barkley was out of shape for half his career. Shaq really only went hard one season from beginning to end. I can't say that.

See, this is what I have a problem with. This is me. This is where I have problems with people that sit in that seat. Because you didn't play against Shaq. And what you think he was out of shape for, actually, Phil gave him a formula to build up. A formula?

What are you talking about? Listen to this formula. Okay. I'm giving you something here. Yeah, I'm excited. You're going to learn something today. Phil Jackson gave Shaq a formula because he was wearing down in the playoffs, and he wanted him to build up.

And we call it build up to get beat down so that when you lift weights, this is why Michael Jordan started lifting weights because the physical aspects of the game is so bearing that you're getting your ass kicked every night getting hit, and you got to, and you have to lift. You alleviate that when you take the hand-checking rule out, the freedom of movement. When you come down the lane, I actually have to let you come down the lane. I can't prohibit you.

I can't put my chest on you. You can't play basketball like that. That's not even possible. I'm saying all this to say that Shaq took the formula to build up. Cole was like, you need to be in better shape because we're in the West. And he was like, no, I'm going to make these centers pay when they come down here, and I'm going to be bigger than everybody. When you're a commentator, you're sitting there, he's not running faster than Oli Candy,

or he's not running faster than the next center. That ain't Shaq's power. Shaq's power is brute strength. Once he got to Lakers, he was on some Superman, Iron Man, putting everybody in the basket. And that was all predicated off of Phil, telling him to build himself up so that you're stronger coming down the playoffs. So you learned something here. What about him being out of shape or none of that? Hey, there was a couple years he was out of shape.

He looked out of shape. Kobe would get mad about it. He looked out of shape. He looked out of shape. He still averaged 25, 12 or something else. Get the fuck out of here. It's not out of shape. When you're out of shape, bro, you're not scoring 25 a night.

Get your ass out of here. Who y'all talking to? I know out of shape. Out of shape. Out of shape. It's barely coming in this room. Out of shape, bro. You're not scoring 25 a night. Get your ass out of here. Who y'all talking to? I know out of shape. Out of shape is barely coming in this room. I'm at the steps. Whew. Go ahead. Give me a second.

That's out of shape. Out of shape is not 25 and 12. So why do you think Kobe was always mad that he wasn't in better shape? Because Kobe is top of the level to the point where you got to do it like how I'm doing it. Right. I'm in super shape. And this is what Michael Jordan brought to our generation. Before Michael Jordan, players would come in training camp out of shape,

pulling shit, snapping shit, arm hurt, just out of shape. Michael Jordan come in here, weight, stretching. Then he started implementing stretching, started implementing all these other things to better the body. And then now our generation came in shape. When you came in day one, you was already in shape. You was always in high rhythm. And the coach didn't have to stop.

And we didn't have to do extra running. But still, you had these old school. What about Rodman after the game? This is funny. I like to shout Rodman out. Shout to the worm. Let's take a break to talk about Square. They make that little white credit card reader that lets anyone take credit cards, including Kyle's barber, Fernando.

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Meet Happy with Zoom. I started doing this after I saw this. We played Chicago and Minnesota, and he had just kicked the cameraman. Oh, yeah, 10-game suspension. Kicked him, right? After the game, we go into a double overtime. We beat the Bulls. We partied like it's 1999.

You couldn't tell us nothing. I'm done. To give myself space to just, like, holy shit, we just beat the Bulls. I need a second. So I come to the weight room. I am done. Sitting there. I just played probably 54 minutes.

I'm like, God damn. That was crazy. Boom, the door busts in. The little short, fat guy who you see in all the bulls, the equipment guy. You know who I'm talking about. The little fat one who carries Jordan's balls like this and just walks around, right? Worm comes in. Comeback boost up to his knees.

Takes his shirt off. Throws it. Jumps on the treadmill. The incline goes up. Getting worm boots. the incline goes up I'm watching this motherfucker run on 23 miles an hour with combat boots

on an incline level of 12 I'm like I said damn do I say I got fuck this Wern what you doing Wern

oh young fella what's up young fella good game tonight baby good game tonight keep working young fella you look at he's running that's crazy he's running talking to me. He's running. That's crazy.

He's running, talking to me like it was nothing. Right. That's crazy, man. I'm in awe. Not in awe. I'm in awe. I'm looking at him like, oh, okay, this is a secret. That's a good one.

I'm getting a secret here. He's doing this. He does this for three minutes. He gets off. God tells him he has 15 minutes to take a shower, blah, blah, blah. And I said, what you doing? He says, man, I got this young kid, Jason Williams, up in Jersey tomorrow. Telling me he going to out-rebound me.

Came out-rebound the world. He starts talking in third person. That's so great. I said, well, but what is this? Oh, young fella, after back-to-backs, you got to get a little lift in. It'll help you on the back-to-backs and save you. Thanks, Worm. I appreciate that, man.

I saw that for myself. I started doing it. I wouldn't go super hard, but I'd do a set, and it would help my second night. Because what you don't know is that when you play back-to-backs, you're in rhythm for the second night. And you have a better night. Really? Absolutely. Because you're in rhythm from the front.

Think about that. I played last night. I played tonight, and then I got another game. You should be in rhythm. You shot last night. You played 25, 30-something minutes, 40 minutes. You should be in rhythm, right? Your body doesn't stiffen up at all? No. Because you're stretching so rhythm. You shot last night. You played 25, 30-something minutes, 40 minutes. You should be in rhythm, right? Your body doesn't stiffen up at all?

No, because we're stretching so much. We're drinking, we're hydrating. You have on tights on the plane. It's so much other stuff. Run this through your body that you're taught. You're a machine. I am a real machine. So what happens when you're on a team with somebody

who you know is out until 7 in the morning every night and you need to win a title with that person? Individually. Kenny Stabler. You keep everybody accountable. And you say, hey, look, this is what we're doing as a group. No one's going out, staying out this late, and everybody's coming in.

If you're the one that is, you know, obviously steps out of it, then we handle you accordingly to our team. And we keep that within the rims of the locker room. You would never hear about it. Right. And that's one thing we did in Boston. We policed ourselves.

Yeah, yeah. We were telling the owners and doctors, get out of here. We're handling our own situation. We would handle our own situations. And that's why we was a close partner. So when you saw the stuff with the Warriors last year, when it was clear Durant had one foot out the door, and then him and Draymond get into it, a game that I went to.

Oh, yeah? And they're just, you can feel their splintering and a lot of it has to do with the fact they don't think he's going to be there after this year. How do you handle that situation? I don't need that, but the buildup of that, that buildup, that was a buildup that popped at the end of the day. That was like shaking up this and then open it up

and then going like this. That was already coming to his head and it popped. So it was going to pop either that game or another game. And listen, the first thing you have to do with each other, you have to be real with each other. We're going in the foxhole together. We're going out here battling every night. So, you know, how much time we're around each other?

I'm around the players on the team more than I'm around my own family. So, you know, you learn to learn each other. So, you know, a lot of conversations coming out of that, a lot of personal conversations coming out of that. So for that to be right there, that means he was giving that off. He was giving that off. And it never got tweaked, and it never got nipped in the bud. No one ever spoke of that. So for that to be right there, that means he was giving that off. He was giving that off. And it never got tweaked and it never got nipped in the bud.

No one ever spoke on that. And all shit? No, man, shut that door. What was you saying? What you talking about? Hold on, man, what? And it was whatever. And you know what?

We're not having fights in our locker room and we're not broken up and I'm not hugged after it. We're not keeping moving. But you got to have a mature group that understands the vision and then leaders that's going to push everybody towards that. See, my fear is there's going to be no great basketball

teams anymore. That these guys are going to be on the same team for two, three years. And then you just move to your next thing. Even the Celtics commemorated in this movie. That was the fifth year you were there. And by that point, the first year you showed up, and I think a lot of the Celtics fans feel that

we loved the team, but everybody was new. It was like a fantasy team that all of a sudden was wearing Celtics uniforms. It was fresh. It was fresh air. Y'all was coming off the bags, on your head, we went to Rome. Didn't nobody know, we went and curated ourself.

We made ourself this thing, and then Doc saw this product. Man. I said, watch it, I'm gonna drop this right, watch this, yo, watch this. I'm going to drop this right. Watch this. Boom. We got back to Boston and practiced. People started seeing us. We played the Wizards the first night.

Now, forget this. My first shot hit so much backboard. I was like. Right. Sure, man. It's terrifying. I was so like. Yeah.

But by year five. We was locked in. Yeah. Everybody is. There's relationships. Yeah, yeah. And I think part of basketball is the connections people have and the adversity you go through. we was locked in yeah it's everybody's there's relationships and yeah yeah you know and I think part of basketball

is the connections people have and the adversity you go through and you're in a situation where it's like you and Rondo play together five straight years

and at some point that becomes an advantage especially in a tight game on the road I just wonder if that's gonna go does it now when you

when you guys went to the Nets together does it can you become a family like When you guys went to the Nets together, can you become a family? Can you believe in the Nets? Can you believe in a new team like that? Well, one of the things we learned when we came to Brooklyn, Paul and I, is that the curation that we started

and the culture we started and we took from doc and we brought to brooklyn everybody didn't adopt that right yeah because there was another guy brooke lopez was a different guy they were these are all different guys they haven't been to the dance they didn't really cherish it they were younger right they still had time to play. Yeah, that's what it's like. So it was like, you know, this is our last, what, three, four years in here. So we trying to, on top of it, Jason Kidd, he understand. Jay Kidd, he was new to it. Him and Lawrence had a bumping, and it was hard to kind of understand the culture here.

So we was trying to build a culture. And you can't build culture with one leg in here or one foot in it. Right. You know what I'm saying? You got to be two feet in. You got to be with it. And I can say that they didn't understand that. They didn't understand being all in.

Joe Johnson understood. A couple guys understood it, but not as a whole. Now, they didn't understand it. You had that your last Saturday Night Live season where you had, like, a bunch of new people and it was just these different kind of camps and just the cast never gelled, right? know i gotta be honest i never 100% felt like we weren't gelling i i i like that i felt like a team too but yeah it's different different uh because that was like the famous cast that there was like 20 of us in the new york magazine was writing that wrote a piece

about it yeah yeah that was unbelievable i'll tell, though. When we first got on the show when we were young, and Dennis Miller and Dana and Phil Hartman and those guys were in- The entrenched stars. They were the ones. I loved being young. That was the culture. That was just like-

I was learning, right? Let's let them be. Of course they're the best. Let's just sit back and watch. I was so happy then, sitting on the bench and just watching them. There was so happy then being on and sitting the bench and just watching them i did there was no pressure i love i got that they were better than us and i just it was a and then all of a sudden when we got older and we were the guys that that that is just

a whole other feeling it's a tent you're you're tenser you're more excited like things are going career-wise better but it was a lot easier sitting back and watching the pros do it. I always felt like SNL was like a basketball team because basically the best possible cast is if you have nine. You want the older stars and the young guy. You want at least a couple young guys coming up. You're right. And then you pass the torch.

A guy gets hot, too, all of a sudden on the team, and all of a sudden a guy who wasn't starting is starting all of a sudden. You're like, oh, what happened? Schneider's starting now. Schneider had that copy machine character, you know, making copies. Right. And he was just like, he went from being one of us to like, he's on the starting five now. Right.

Let's write for Rob. Let's write for him. We were all like, oh, man, life just changed. Rob is the man now. I. Let's write for Rob. Let's write for him. We were all like, oh man, life just changed. Rob is the man now. I remember that. That was cool. I remember I told this story to the Safdie brothers.

That's where we're going to right there, bro. Holy shit. It is a little bit. When you did the Denise show, that was when I was like, oh, he's going to be a star. Oh, really?

Yeah. That's cool. You tapped into something with that and I was like, oh, something's going on here. I did a show about calling an old girlfriend, a show about my old girlfriend and she broke up with me right and then the whole show was dedicated to her and me calling her and hanging up and stuff like that it was

and then you'd have a guest on and and they would make small talk and then you go so have you heard from denise yeah right right that was the whole sketch that was this guy steve corn wrote that for me and that was that was i knew something cool was happening with that too because saturday night live lauren michaels always used to say try to do a skit where you're looking to camera right and then america kind of looks at you a little like oh that's that guy when you're doing a skit in a costume and you're being, blah, blah, blah, blah, and you're being funny, they don't really know who you are as well as. That's why a lot of guys, he used to say, become famous off Weekend Update. You're just looking right down the pipe.

You're talking to him. That's how Eddie Murphy started. Oh, yeah. And like, this is the week. Eddie's back. Eddie's back, man. I saw that. I got to check that.

That's going to be big. Holy snap. I mean, the biggest moment last year was you came back. That felt good. I think this is a little cooler. But yeah, that was the best last year. I loved it. Your boy Spade, I thought he ruined it for life.

He'd never come back after that. No, I'll tell you. The best was when I finished last year. I did the hosted on Sunday. I talked to Eddie on the phone, and he talked to me immediately like, how was it? You know, he was complimentary. Oh, you could tell he wanted to do it.

But, yeah, he was thinking about doing it, and he's like, what was the week like? What did it feel like? And I said, yeah, you're in and out of nervousness and blah, blah, blah. But once you're there and you're riding the hour and a half of the show, it is the feeling you want. Is it one of those things where it's like a bike and you get back? It can be, I guess.

It's like, you know, you remember the first part, so coming through here and then now you come back and now all this time has passed. You're more polished. You have a lot more confidence. I didn't have confidence during the week. I felt like everyone else in the cast. It's like going back and seeing the new guys play ball.

You're just like, oh, they're doing something different now. You get a little intimidated. I was a little like, oh, man, these guys are a family. Did you feel like the speed was faster? I felt like they were just more used to just being together and relaxed. And they weren't looking at the cue card so much. They were kind of like right to each other, being funny. And they were just looser.

And I was like, I put some weird pressure on myself, I'm sure. Well, you're doing the Farley song, too. I mean, there's so much emotional weight with that. I guess that, yeah, that was emotional for sure. But just trying to be funny and being around guys who are being funny every week, I guess I got nervous. And then by Thursday, so it's like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, I started getting tight with the guys and the men and women in the cast. And we started becoming friendly, and that calmed me down.

And then I was like, let's just enjoy this instead of being a crazy person and putting pressure on myself. And then it was fun. Could KG have hosted? KG would be great as a host. Hell no. You don't want to do that. I'm too nervous. I'm not necessarily nervous.

You're too nervous. What are you talking about? Nervous is not a good word. Anxious. I'm going to be in too much adrenaline. Like tonight, yo. We did Kimmel, man. And I was in the back.

And I was trying to talk to Ginger. And I killed the time. But I'm. Yeah. Yeah. Screwed your head up. Nothing worse than the moments before going out. I tried to be all cool and take a little,

I couldn't even do this. I still feel the same way that when I do standup gigs and they're about to bring me on, there's not a time I go, oh, let's go. I'm always just like, why did I do this, man? Why am I doing this right now? I'm so scared. Then stepping out and walking out and you're like, why did I do this, man? Why am I doing this right now? I'm so scared. Then stepping out and walking out and you're like, just calm down, man.

What the hell are you doing to yourself? Well, we have to go because you're going to the Cooper game. This is awesome. This movie is really good. Thanks, buddy. Appreciate it, man. Nice job. Thank you, man. Nice job, Kevin.

Thank you. Now you have a SAG card. Yeah, I guess I do. You're paying dues for the rest of your life now. So good. I'll handle that for you. This is a really good movie. I would highly recommend it.

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