The Bill Simmons Podcast - Andy Samberg on Pioneering Digital Shorts, the 'Rocky' Franchise, and Hosting Awards Shows (Ep. 263)
Episode Date: September 22, 2017HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by comedian Andy Samberg to discuss the Oakland sports scene (6:00), producing the first digital shorts on 'SNL' (10:00), the best casts ever on 'SNL' (15:0...0), impersonating Nicolas Cage (22:00), making mockumentaries with HBO Sports (28:00), selecting the essential 'Rocky' movies (36:00), preparing to host awards shows (44:00), and finding the right roles on TV (55:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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All right.
First, Pearl Jam. Andy Samberg for the first time in the BS Podcast.
It's happening.
We've circled each other forever.
We have.
Mike Scher says hi.
He's been on a couple times.
Yeah.
He's a sweet man.
Yeah, I'm going gonna have him on again before
baseball playoffs
when he's
when he gets
get him a little more hysterical
when he gets really heated
yeah
what are your favorite teams
go through them
I'm from Berkeley
so I grew up with the A's
Raiders were in LA
so I'm Niners
and then Warriors
A's
that's weird
well
they need a new stadium.
There's always these weird stories that come out.
They might go here, they might go there.
Nobody's ever decided.
The stadium situation is Al Davis' fault.
Yeah.
And it's affecting them.
The baseball team is now like suffering for it.
Yeah.
But every team in the East Bay is going to move.
I know, which is weird
because everybody keeps saying
how the East Bay has taken off.
It is. And it's a great place to live, seems to be true it's a wonderful place and then ever they're losing all their teams it does i mean i guess they think they can make more money elsewhere
but yeah the warriors make sense because you put that downtown in a giant complex i get it
i don't like it but i get it it's also just like oakland has suffered through the warriors for so
many like i grew up on the Warriors.
Me and my dad watched the Warriors no matter what.
And now they're winning, and I'm so happy.
And it's also kind of bittersweet because they're leaving.
And the bandwagon potential of the team exceeded anyone's expectations
because you had this diehard, beaten-down fan base.
And now all of a sudden they become the sexy team that the nine-year-old kids
across America and Europe and China are wearing the jerseys.
And it's like,
what happened for me?
Maybe more shocking than that.
They started winning was like when they got to the final,
seeing all of those celebrities in Oakland,
like seeing like Jay-Z and Beyonce,
at the Coliseum where I grew up going,
where it just felt like it was a
wasteland and now it's like oh it's like a hot club i remember i hadn't gone to a game until
the late 90s and i was absolutely stunned the first time i went how cool the crowd was it was
like everything i wanted from a basketball crowd all different types of people super diverse yeah
the bay is that and uh they were really getting on chris Chris Webber because he was on the Kings at that point.
They're just killing him.
I was like, this is great.
I had no idea this world existed.
And now it's very wealthy there.
It really is.
But you still got Marshawn coming home and dancing and everyone going crazy.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
I'm a little bit dubious of it.
And it really seems legit and like he's going to last the whole year and kind of be a badass.
Well, it seems like they got a couple other backs that are good, too,
so they'll use them sparingly.
Do you think they actually leave?
Yeah.
For some reason, I'm still waiting for this to fall through
at the 11 and a half hour, because Vegas is involved,
which is the shadiest city in America at this point.
You never can be sure.
But, I mean, the Warriors couldn't be more successful,
and they're leaving.
Right.
So if they're going to go, then the Raiders, who are knocking on the door of being great.
It's so strange.
Yeah.
It sucks so bad that it's right when both of them are doing so well.
Yeah.
The Raiders are a Super Bowl contender.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know who I would take over them right now.
Let's get your plugs out of the way now, because there's a lot of stuff I want to hit.
So just plug stuff. So we're not doing it at the hour 15 minute mark my only thing is
brooklyn 99 is coming back uh tuesday 9 30 okay yeah there you go season five five seasons it
flew by right guys even matter anymore um because in the 1980s you would be like you're five that
means we're gonna be blah blah blah but now netflix all hulu all these places does it matter i think it kind of matters to like five people okay are you one of the five people
i'm sort of one of the five yeah so that's good i'm like the like the bottom rung of the five
what's been what's been the thing you've been most surprised by about doing a yearly half hour
sitcom for a network television,
um,
network television network,
I should say probably how much I've enjoyed it. Just like from a lifestyle perspective,
I knew I would like it creatively cause it was sure.
And my,
and Dan Gore,
who I just,
those guys are great.
Yeah.
Um,
it was the only way I was going to do a show like this was with people like
that,
where I was like,
Oh,
if we can potentially be in the conversation with other shows, like, you know, The Office and Parks and Rec or 30 Rock, those types of things that are, you know, people who came before me SNL wise did that I really respected and thought were funny.
Because for me, I'll do anything if I think it's genuinely funny.
So that's why I love doing Brooklyn.
It's every day.
It's just lots of jokes. And it's so comfortable. It's's why I love doing Brooklyn. It's every day. It's just lots of jokes.
Um,
and it's so comfortable.
It's a really nice life to shoot a show during the day,
during the day,
the writers write the stuff for you and you just show up and you get to say
other people's jokes that they wrote,
which is just delightful.
I mean,
I add stuff,
but you know,
so you must've been like laughing your ass off and like the 10th episode,
you have a foot,
you have a full gas tank?
Yeah.
It's very comfortable.
It's very the opposite of SNL schedule-wise.
Did you have it harder than most with SNL because of the time frame of shooting the videos with the guest hosts?
It seems like you did.
Yes.
Thank you for asking because I love complaining about this. Well, it's not a complaint as much as the reality of the situation.
You had the guest hosts for how many days?
Me and, um,
and Akiva and Yorma,
who are the other two dudes that made those with me on the Island.
That's us.
Um,
it got to the point where we just did one every week.
It was kind of just understood.
And there were many weeks where we would say,
we don't have a good idea.
And they would say,
do one anyway.
Yeah.
And then sometimes it worked out and they were good.
And sometimes it was like the week that people were like those guys suck right we'd be like we know we said
it's not good anymore um and the guest host every time was saying to you or they're probably excited
to be in one right well lauren was just saying it he's like tell those guys to make one and we'd be
like all right we're gonna like break down yeah but i mean to his credit half the
time we would come up with something that worked like i think uh one of the ones we were so sure
was a disaster and was gonna tank was shirani the one with rihanna we were like we had a whole
other idea and then we switched it up at the last minute because we didn't think it was funny enough
and they were like maybe this will work and then the schedule got all screwy and you know we only had
time to shoot like a fraction of what we wanted to shoot and she had to leave because she had to
get up early for the rehearsal all these different things came yeah flying at us and we were like
well this one's a fucking mess we're done this it sucks we ruined it it sucks because we're all
sleep deprived and like psychotic yeah and then it went great i think
we have now enough time has passed where you guys officially don't get enough credit
for those videos and how impactful they were because i think in the moment when it was happening
you tapped into something and then people are like oh this is where it's headed these guys are first
but now there's going to be more and then you realize 11 years later that it's really hard to make these
and make them consistently well and be creative with them.
And there's so much bad video just everywhere now that I think as the years pass,
I think it's good for the legacy of it.
Well, thanks.
We're proud of them.
I definitely, every now and again, we'll just choose a random one that we like
forgot about and go back and watch it and i'm always happy that there's a few like good hard
laughs and almost all of them yeah i remember when i knew they were the biggest when i knew
it had transcended anything was i was at the super bowl in like 2010 in Miami, whenever that last Miami one was.
And I happened to be on a boat in one of those stupid,
some rich guy had a party and I was like,
friend of a friend, I was like, we gotta go,
this is gonna be great.
And on Saturday afternoon, I'm like, all right.
We go and I'm on a boat that that song started playing
and the whole boat went crazy in New Every Words.
I was like over 40 at this point i'm like wow okay is that how this works now it's crazy when we made
that song it was really just it was about like you know rick ross videos and stuff yeah but it
has definitely turned into a thing where like people feel compelled to listen to that song if
they're on a boat of any size or type.
It's the number one boat song.
Number one boat song.
The Love Boat had the title for like 30 years.
We locked it up.
You just took it.
We locked it up, man.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It's great.
So walk me through the process of that idea.
That one.
One of the three of you gets obsessed
with something about Rick Ross videos? No. How does it go? That one actually Somebody, one of the three of you gets obsessed with something about Rick Ross videos?
No.
How does it go?
That one actually was just, we were listening to different beats and we found that beat
and we were like, this one is so good.
We have to do something on this beat.
So then Akiva and I kind of locked ourselves in the studio and just were playing it on
a loop and I just started screaming the chorus at him and he said, yes, it's that.
And then you fill in the blanks after that.
Yeah.
And then how long,
how long did it take to like actually write the video?
Cause you have a time,
you have a,
well,
don't you have a finish line?
Like a couple,
the trick we pulled off after,
I want to say three seasons was we signed a record deal.
So we took the summer twice to make our first two albums from snl we rented this big
old house remember record deals yeah go way back we were on the tail end of it it wasn't yeah it
wasn't gangbusters but it was great and the cool thing about it was we controlled the songs so
the videos could be on youtube yeah hulu couldn't like block it you know it was all
nbc red tape stuff but because it was our stuff that we had made outside of the show we would
basically just come in and be like okay we're making this and we want to loan it to the show
for free basically right the label would pay for videos even did they hire you guys because they
knew video and youtube and that whole era was coming
or they just liked your stuff and thought you'd work in the old structure of the show we were
writing for the mtv movie awards when fallon was hosting and we wrote two out of the three
pre-tapes that he did we wrote the uh the batman opening yeah and the the star wars like lava
planet thing uh and we just kind of hung out
with him and he brought a bunch of snl writers and he brought uh steve higgins and mike shoemaker
and we kind of all hit it off and he always tells it as you know we were shooting late it was like
two or three in the morning and we were still there like pitching him jokes and he was like
who are these guys yeah i'm so into it. They're so wacky. Yeah.
So he recommended us to Lorne.
And Higgins and Shoemaker recommended us to Lorne to be like, you should maybe look at these guys.
We had made a couple of pilot presentation things, like one for Comedy Central, one for Fox.
And I had done stand-up.
So I had done premium blend.
But some of the videos you guys had made at lonely island had become like an a
thing in the early stages of video internet right yes depending who you ask like for people who are
paying attention to that yes like we were part of channel 101 with harman and shraub and all that
stuff and we also had you know i couldn't even tell you what our traffic was but we had a website
and we had action on it it was so funny funny how fast it flipped. When I was working,
I was on the initial writing staff for Kimmel.
So the first 18 months and when we needed videos,
there was no YouTube.
Like we had this guy who's in charge of video and we had to go to him and be
like,
Hey,
we're looking for the bub rub video.
When he talks about that was in Oakland.
Actually remember the bub rub talk about the whistles go.
Oh yeah.
We're like, how did we get that?
And he goes on some weird, the dark internet and finds the video and gets it.
And then all of a sudden it flipped and video was super accessible.
Yes.
Probably like around 05.
When we first heard of YouTube was after Lazy Sunday aired.
Yeah.
The Sunday after it aired, a bunch of people were sending links
and being like hey your thing's on this thing called youtube and that was sort of like i think
the first time a lot of people had heard of it um i would say it was probably the first major
youtube moment i can't think of anything that i'm sure something else happened before but that was
the first time i remember the views mattered people report stories about writing about the views yes i remember the stories yeah it was like it reached one million views
everyone's like no way that's amazing and then and that was it yeah but when you're doing that
when you're doing that video you don't there's no way you could have seen any of that coming
no i mean i've said this a million times but it really is the truth we just were hoping that it
was going to air yeah you're trying to make the yeah it was our first season you figured like it
was like the 1250 yeah we've done a couple of things that have gotten on at that point but you
know in your first season or two usually you're just trying to like get by and hope that the
audience likes you enough to stay.
And that turned out that whole cast that was just this great mix of people in that cast.
Yeah, I think so.
All caught, all were kind of at the right point of their careers for when they joined the show or where they were.
Yeah.
So it's pretty neat. Our second season, a lot of people left after our first season.
But then the new.
It was such a small group there was something really special to me about those couple of seasons in a row where it was like
our crew sort of of me and bill sudeikis and wig and then you still had you know daryl
seth moved over to update the vets. Yeah. And there was like Amy,
Maya,
Keenan,
Armisen Forte.
It was less than 12.
Yeah,
it was.
Yeah. I think it was 11.
It's something like that where,
and at every table read,
you're just like the table reads,
not too long.
Everyone has a show every week.
Everyone's involved in everything.
There's,
you know,
everyone's strengths.
So like no one's competing as much. sort of had their own lane um not that it's not good when
there's a lot of people but it just it felt really pure i've said this before on my pod where my
theory and this was always that snl is like a basketball team and you have like basically it
should be a nine-man you have a 12 12 person lineup nine-man rotation you have like basically, it should be a nine-man, you have a 12-person lineup, nine-man rotation.
You have like your top three.
You have every one guy who's setting picks, doesn't care about the glory, and you go all the way through.
And anytime the cast swells too far, that's usually when the season's rocky.
So I did a podcast in Lauren's office like three years ago.
And I was all excited to spring the basketball thing at him.
And I was like, I can't wait to throw this at him.
So I laid it out.
I do the whole thing.
And he's like, I think it's more like a baseball team.
And then just completely flipped it on me.
And by the end of it, I was like, I'm an idiot.
And that's why you're the best.
You're one of Michael's.
He's good.
But I was always pretty confident in that.
I always like when it's a smaller cast. like when more people are involved yeah i just think because everyone's
more invested that's when stuff gets goofier and people have to kind of go outside of what maybe
their comfort zone is right you find new things more because you're not just being asked to do
what you're good at yeah yeah that said there were periods of time where there's overlap of
different generations that are
just mind-blowing where you have the like carvey hartman jan hooks you know oh yeah era and then
also sandler farley right rock spade mike myers like all those people were there at the same time
it was like 1990 it was like two eras colliding like so many of those people are all timers
one of those mid 2000 years was
like that where it was like two like where you
just laid out there was like two eras that
kind of bled over each other
there was like Farrell McKay and
Tina Jimmy stuff happening
where you're like that's a lot of firepower
too what was your
thought when you watched this last season where
you had two people that
weren't on the cast getting yeah just a ton of attention and at bats i mean these are strange
days is what it looked like to me i don't know i mean if you have a cast that is now i think
because the show got so much attention the last few years,
the audience now knows them
and is pulling for them.
It takes a while, generally,
for cast members to sort of get the audience
on their side.
Yeah.
But, I mean, no one knew that
Melissa coming in and doing Spicer
was going to be something she did more than once,
I think.
That would be my assumption.
They were like, oh man,
wouldn't it be so funny if Melissa did this?
They knew with Baldwin. Yes yes they announced it with bald yeah but i think
i don't know i don't know i mean it was it worked yeah you know i'm sure there's someone in that
cast that was like i have a trump but like what are you gonna say like when you work there it happened all the time it never
happened when i was there where somebody well no it did i mean tina would come in and do palin
and we were grateful for it because it got so much attention on the show and she was great at it
yeah just like alec is that was almost preordained they looked the way she had the wig and everything
yeah looked like her yeah as lauren tells it the day after they announced her like five different
people came up to him and said mr michaels what a gift yeah she looks just like tina totally
like i had to do it but i mean i don't know i think there are moments like that where that's
why he's lauren he knows what to do he's like you know this moment calls for alec doing this and
yeah that's the way it's gonna go and it worked i, they just won a ton of Emmys. When did you feel like you weren't the new guy
anymore? Um, probably like my third or fourth season, something like that. I had an interesting
like space there. Like I, we, like you said, we spent so much time doing pre-tapes that
on the one hand,
my position was kind of set early on,
maybe earlier than a lot of people where I knew what I was going to be doing
and what they liked from me.
Yeah.
Uh,
but on the other hand,
I also really loved doing the live show and I felt like in a lot of ways I was
held at arm's length from that more than I would want to be because I was doing
so much pre-tape stuff.
And then sort of by the last two or three years of my time there, I felt like I started cracking
the live show more, like start getting stuff on like, like the Nick Cage on update kind of stuff.
You know what I mean? Where it was the goofiness of the shorts, but I was finding my way into like
the confidence live to like pull it off performance wise where do you stand on when they
bring the person who's being parodied in the sketch on to confront the person who's parodying
them because i always feel like from that moment on it loses like 30 of whatever because it's
that's the danger i knew going in with cage that if he was willing to do it that i was willing
to give up that 30 because I am obsessed with that dude.
How can he not be?
He's the greatest.
He's like arguably the most compelling person ever.
And he's so like,
he had the exact reaction you want someone to have when you're doing like a
quote unquote impression of them.
He was like,
no,
I understand you're doing an insane character and calling it me.
And I'm like,
yes,
that's correct.
You get it.
That's the show.
Yeah.
Like you're the jumping off point for lunacy.
It would be like,
yeah.
If Will Ferrell ever did,
you know,
Harry Carey with Harry Carey,
Harry Carey doesn't actually,
you know,
ask people if the moon was made of cheese,
would you eat it?
Right.
But he's like a wild looking dude.
That's why they had so much trouble with Obama.
Cause they could never figure out how to do the ridiculous version of them.
Yeah.
And it was like,
what do you do?
I mean,
basically the closest they came when it was the rock Obama,
when it was like the rock as Obama and he's just being ridiculous,
but I'm going to have to take credit.
That was my pitch.
That was a great idea,
but that's always when it's the best,
when it's the completely over the top version.
Yeah.
I think that's the problem with trump in some respects is
how do you do trump when the real trump is a character well it's tough yeah i have trouble
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Can we go back to Nick Cage?
Yes, by all means. Do you have three Nick Cage stories?
Two?
Because I just want to say, so you know, I'm equally obsessed.
We have this podcast called The Rewatchables where we talk about just movies that are on all the time yeah and we did speed we haven't run it yet but um we i actually started an
argument about would this movie have been better with nick cage than keanu young nick cage we're
talking like 93 nick cage okay everybody shouted me down i always feel like they underestimate nick
cage what's 93 nick cage doing 93 nick cage is like before he goes in a kiss of death and puts on
all the all the muscle pre or post pre pre con air pre face off okay it's before the wheels have
come off so you're saying like young nick cage like leaving las vegas yeah post raising arizona
i mean he was like raising arizona obviously one of the best movies ever made when we thought he
was an a-list actor before he became face-off con air
he went yeah he went action yeah uh-huh i was like it's you know if he's in speed it's a different
movie but anyway oh and speed got it if he's in speed in the keanu it's tough though keanu's got
a similar thing going on in a very different way right much nick cage plays it big yeah kiana played it brings it back but they both drag their words
it's true they're both the kings of face off they could they could have just face off to each other
i think face off he's not coming back it's not too dissimilar right god so best nick cage story
i mean i didn't really have a ton the only the moment that I loved was he came in, he was lovely.
We went through the bit.
He pitched a couple of things that were even funny and told us a few things that he didn't get.
So we lost them.
And then we went out and we did it.
The audience went nuts.
We, you know, they wheel us off update and we, they took our mics and he just looked at me and he went
pleasure doing business with you and then disappeared into the darkness of the studio
and i was like i'm definitely never gonna see him again and i have not seen him since
mark walberg took it a little personally though he did but he came on right but it seemed like
he was still pissed about it. I can't quite tell.
He's always super nice to me when I see him at stuff.
Look, if you don't like an impression someone's doing of you, I can't fault it.
If someone did an impression of me and I was like, fuck this person, I wouldn't be
able to be like, it's fine if I hated it.
So if he hates it, that's his right to hate it.
I liked it, though.
Dana Carvey went on and did a Dennis.
It was a very good Wahlberg.
Dana Carvey went on and did Dennis Miller, an update next to Dennis Miller.
Yeah.
And it was great.
And I could tell it like 20% bothered Dennis Miller.
He was pissed off.
It's always a little weird when cast does other cast.
Yeah.
It's like crossing the beams.
It doesn't happen very often.
Somebody this year did Kate, right?
On the show.
Oh, yeah.
It was kind of strange.
Yeah, it was strange.
It is a beam crossing.
No, somebody did Kristen, too.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
I did Fallon when I auditioned.
Did you really?
But it was sanctioned because he had heard me doing temp of an animatic of the pre-tape we did at the movie awards.
That's a lot of words but
they put together like this is what it's going to look like and they had me do the lines that
he would say to show to him as like a presentation yeah and so it was me being like oh my god batman
we gotta go and all this stuff and when the first time i met him he's like you the guys were doing
me he like really liked it so i did it in my audition for us now and i knew he had done
sandler in his audition what out of the people the sports being a sports fan you had some sports
people coming through either either guest hosting or being on update um what was the most exciting
man most exciting stuff happened in the 80s when i wasn't there, like Joe Montana and stuff.
Oh, yeah.
That Joe Montana sketch where you're hearing his thoughts.
He's like, they won't bother me.
I'll be masturbating.
It's hard to explain that to the Tate Tommy generation over there.
When they did that sketch, it was like all anyone talked about for a week and a half.
It was like, oh, my God, they got him to say masturbate.
And being from the Bay, Joe Montana is probably the all-time Bay Area sports guy.
And he's so mellow.
And he just wasn't good as a studio NOS.
And he's just too mellow, but he was so cool.
The SNL thing was the great thing to hang your hat on.
Yeah.
For like, no, no, he has a personality.
Did the masturbation sketch.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I mean, Peyton was obviously great.
LeBron, I thought, was really funny yeah hosted i feel like people don't really give him credit for it but everyone was so surprised when
he was good in um train wreck but i wasn't surprised because he was good on snl yeah the uh
i actually if he does space jam 2 is that gonna happen it's they've been rumored it's been rumored
for every time i've
ever talked about anybody with like do you have a script like they it doesn't seem like they have
the idea for it how hard can it be to write that script i don't know t what did we say the idea
was for it we said the wolf was thinking we said the warriors would be the monsters right yeah the
warriors of the monsters oh i see like lebron has to have nba friends you know you have to have the
people that would want to team up with him,
and he's burned a lot of bridges.
It could be a parable of what's actually happened in the NBA
where LeBron needs to get other people to beat the Monsters.
Oh, okay.
But now you have to get Durant and Curry in it.
Yeah.
They have competing shoe contracts.
It's too hard.
Why is Durant slagging off Under Armour?
Was he joking?
That was on my podcast.
I didn't know what to do.
I'm reading that being like, don't mess it up.
Just say nice things.
And then everyone else in the NBA is saying, this is great.
You can't let him get away with that, Steph.
They're like sending text.
What's new with your boy?
Steph's unflappable.
He really is.
Steph is so focused, dude.
He's not going to screw it up.
I think he's going to be a PGA golfer after he plays.
Yeah.
I think he just leaves the court and goes right in.
I just watched him take like a penalty kick at Chelsea in England and like nailed it.
He's got to have like a pulse of 60.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's one of those.
He could have hosted SNL.
I don't know how good he would have been, but he wouldn't have been nervous.
He would have been fine.
Yeah.
He would have been but he wouldn't been nervous he would have been fine yeah he would have been fine yeah um it's always a bad sign if an athlete's
hosting snl and they're nervous that's somebody i don't know if i want to trust in a super bowl
or a game seven really you're nervous at 30 rock the key for them is to yeah just lean into the
fact that no one's expecting them to do well. When you did the tennis one, which was fantastic for HBO.
Thank you.
I made the mistake of showing it to my son.
How old?
Too young.
He's maybe eight.
Oh, that's too young.
There's so much dick.
Well, I covered his eyes for a couple of dick shots.
We had a three-way on the court.
Well, that's the part I covered his eyes for.
But it's his kind of humor.'s he's his sense of humor is very advanced but uh did any tennis people get upset about that i heard that agassi didn't like it oh and i can't confirm that i just
heard it um interesting i really hope it's not the case because I love that dude. And I grew up loving watching him.
And he was like one of my heroes.
And we definitely like poached some stuff from his biography.
Right.
And then made it way crazier.
But that's just.
Oh, you think that hurt his feelings?
I hope not.
Again, I can't confirm that he even didn't like it.
Maybe he'd be like, what?
That's bullshit.
I loved it.
Do you know him and Steffi Graf had a kid that's this top baseball player that's already committed to college and that's the most
unsurprising thing i've ever heard would you pick baseball though yeah it made sense when i thought
about i would have said tennis then hockey then baseball would have been my third choice probably
great at tennis though and it's just like nah i don't want to do what my parents did he's like
screw you guys what a cool couple yeah one of the best. That's why I was talking with somebody on this pod two weeks ago, because Josie Altidore
and Sloane Stevens are dating.
I was so happy to see that.
Anytime two athletes are together, I always go to what their kids would be and what their
sport would be.
Yeah.
And with that one, it's like, man, that could be a great athlete.
It would be that-
Her hand eye and his athleticism.
Isn't that Brazilian sport where it's like soccer where you kick it over the net?
What's that sport?
You know what I'm talking about?
Soccer, you kick it over the net?
It's a soccer ball.
It's like beach volleyball with a soccer ball and use your feet.
Oh.
But it's kind of like tennis and soccer smushed together.
I don't know if that's enough income for their child.
Well, just wait.
I'm excited for the Agassi graph.
I want to, if the, if.
Football.
It's called footballing.
Is that what it's called?
Yeah.
This is crazy.
You're married, right?
Yeah.
Do you have kids yet?
Just had my first.
How's that been going?
It's great.
I'm sleepy.
How old?
Almost five months.
Now that you've had a kid, is it crazy to do that anyone who worked for snl had
a child during that experience yes it makes no sense right yeah i talked to bill about it
he had i think he had more than one while we were there and he just started leaving
earlier and earlier he like the show would end and he'd walk off the stage during good nights
and just go straight into his car go no party and i remember at the time being like man i can't believe bill's not hanging right where is he and now i'm like
yeah he's like yeah man you see what i was talking about like yeah it's i go straight home uh um
the the tour de france parody france tour de france sorry we went back and forth cycling
people we got a lot of different reads from people um that you just did was there any fallout from that or no i don't think so people are okay with lance now it seems
like some people were pissed and some people weren't but for us it was like it we just loved
that bit so much it made us laugh so hard in the script so we asked him and he was like yeah fuck
it and he was super super charming and nice who's the guy
they have one scene and they get super horny in it and they start trying to i'm blanking on the
actor uh oh is it forte yes gets hit with the amphetamines that and he starts asking the
french news reporter that murdered me fucking with the baton
with his own baton
that murdered me that was my i'm sure you get a lot of different favorite parts but uh i'm very
happy to hear it those things are so much fun to make well it's it's like you basically said oh
this gets this is on hbo all right there's no lines whatsoever and also there's just a built-in
format for it because of 30 for 30 and hbo sports docs and everything it's it's such a shorthand for so
many people now and we felt like we love sports and we love comedy and it was just a no-brainer
so how long does it take to do that from start to finish it takes a really long time but not
because it has to it's because me and my buddy murray miller who are the
eps of it um have so much other stuff to work on so you kind of float back in back and forth on it
yeah but i think we're gonna do another one we're gonna try and just keep doing them because they're
i just assumed you would what has it been a year apart or 18 months apart um probably the latter
yeah yeah it's tough i'm shooting brooklyn
i-9 so we do this in the summer on my break we'll shoot one of those and then edit it sort of
throughout your wife's like really you're doing another one no she likes it oh good yeah that's
good really you're working all summer no it's not that many days of shooting because there's no
budget so you have ideas for the next one yeah but i'm not gonna i'm not gonna say it all right i didn't expect you to i'm just excited you have ideas plenty
of ideas what would you want to see though top of your mind what's what sport keeping in mind
that budget is a pretty strict thing i mean the easiest one to do next would be golf golf's a good
idea the problem with golf just from a budget standpoint, you just need any golf course. The bar for golf is two of the best comedies of all time.
Right.
So it's kind of like...
Wait, what's the second one?
Happy Gilmore.
I was worried you were going to say Caddyshack 2 for a second.
Caddyshack 2.
Jackie Mason underrated.
Don't have it.
You remember that? Tate and Tom, does your generation care about Caddyshack? Yeah. Do you have it. You remember that?
Tate and Tom, does your generation care about Caddyshack?
Yeah.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Ackroyd and the food truck?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don't have it.
Caddyshack 2 and Fletch 2 and Rocky 5 and 48 Hours 2 were my Mount Rushmore of sequel disappointments.
Rocky 5 was Tommy Gunn?
Yeah.
I enjoyed it, though.
You did?
I did enjoy it, though.
It was tough.
You can't follow IV.
I mean, IV is... IV, I mean, he's ended the Cold War.
So Rocky V expectations were high.
I would put IV as my second best of the Rockies.
I would, too.
What's your first, though?
The first one.
I have III, number one.
I love III.
You like III more than one
three start to finish have you watched one i'm just saying for right now what's on i recently
re-watched one and one slow but it's so good it's like the first alien it's great it's slow but it's
just a it's a fucking masterpiece it's very slow and it's it's it's a different genre 40 years
later it's it's rocky one is a different genre.
He's possibly arrested for when he seduces Adrian.
It's like a romantic drama.
It's a romantic drama with he,
and the other one kind of goes,
he gets a little physical with her there.
Well,
they,
they need to CGI some of that.
I think some of the door.
Have you rewatched Blade Runner recently?
There's some really tough rewatches out there just in general.
It was crazy for me to realize because Blade Runner all growing There's some really tough rewatches out there, just in general. It was crazy for me to realize,
because Blade Runner, all growing up,
is one of my favorite movies.
Visually, it's still one of the most innovative things ever.
Nervous about the sequel, but it does look pretty badass.
It does look pretty, the great trailer.
Yeah.
My favorite movie ever is 48 Hours,
which is not age well.
It's just Jack Gates is flat out racist now.
Yeah.
He's a cultist character.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's just an unredeeming racist yeah he's character yeah yeah he's just an
unredeeming racist there's so many things though where you didn't know it makes you think about
what we're gonna think like 20 years from now nobody would make comedies 20 years from now
everybody's gonna be too uptight everybody's gonna be afraid to laugh well surreal stuff
it'll always be there yeah monty python's still going strong can i make the case for rocky three yes by all means best start to finish best first five minutes die the tiger it's got the 10 minute
hulk hogan thunder lip scene rocky loses which is in the in the moment is incredible because
nobody expected that saw coming right it also has also has the Clubber Lang saying, hey woman, hey woman,
and basically trying to hit on Rocky's wife
in front of a crowd.
Then it has to go back to LA.
It has the beach hug.
Yeah.
It has to get back to the roots.
Then it has the dramatic comeuppance at the end.
It's just start to finish.
It is really good.
Well constructed.
It really moves nicely.
I would probably put it third,
but where do you,
is Creed in this conversation? So that's it. It really moves nicely. Is Creed in this conversation?
So that's it.
I feel like Creed
is the new Rocky V.
Is the new Rocky V. Yeah, Creed's really good.
Creed's so fucking good.
You know what the plot for Creed 2 is, right? No.
This is what I heard. Okay.
I heard he fights Drago's son.
Oh my god, played by?
I don't know.
I'm in though.
True or not true?
I'm a thousand percent in.
I'm going to see it no matter what.
Creed versus Drago Jr.?
Coogler.
The director, Coogler.
He's from Oakland.
Ryan Coogler.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I met him at the Globes and he's so fucking bae.
Have you met that dude?
He is.
He's like a genius and he's like talks like keek the sneak he is one of the best conversations you can have on the planet
so much yeah i'm so he's repping the bay so hard and the the one uh the marvel one he did looks
incredible yeah he's i feel like that's maybe gonna be the best one yeah i don't know what
the oakland power rankings is right now but he's he's in the conversation it's him in montana
i don't know where huey lewis is at but he's got to still be high yeah huey made a lot of money man
i love huey huey had a had a good run so got golf though caddyshack caddyshack happy gilmore and
somehow there hasn't been anything funny with golf in 20 years
yeah yeah it's just when you start thinking like what are the set pieces going to be
they can't be anything similar to either of those two things
it could be a tiger woods type spiral for somebody who's super horny
i can't believe that's what his story is now.
The greatest golfer of all time.
I guess, I mean, like, that's what you say about Clinton now.
Right?
Yeah.
It's definitely in the first... Bill, not Hillary.
Yeah.
It's definitely the first two sentences.
Yeah.
It's definitely the first sentence.
I don't, like, no one talks about Clinton's policy.
They just talk about that he was a super hornd he's he's getting blown in the oval office like it's it's in the first sentence
i'm sorry just the way it's gonna play out it's the way it plays out don't do that if you don't
want it to play out like that did they did he ever come to the show he wouldn't have right i don't
think so no hillary came obviously yeah that's always. Obama came once when he did the Halloween mask thing.
Yeah.
And everyone, it was when he was running and everyone was like, I'm going to go meet Obama.
And I was like, I don't want to bother him.
Yeah.
And then now I'm like, fuck, I should have met the president.
Maybe that could be your third one.
No, the move is this next one you do, you hire his daughter as like a PA.
Sure.
Get a man. Right, right, right, right next one you do, you hire his daughter as like a PA. Sure. Get him in.
Right, right, right, right.
She worked on Girls.
Yeah, that's the move.
Murray, who I do those things with, he wrote on Girls for most of the seasons.
So what's next for you?
Lay it out for me.
Career-wise?
Yeah.
Man.
Well, I'm going to ride the buzz off this this podcast appearance after the after i mean after
this blows up like two three four more years left the tv show yeah i mean it's a crapshoot at this
point tv is so spread out now it's bizarre but we have people who love our show and i'm also told our show is major internationally which makes
me very happy oh yeah like numbers come back where i'm like whoa that's it's in it's like in over 150
countries wow like brooklyn i-9 travels for whatever reason were you excited that andre
brow got a shout out last night so excited especially because he didn't get nominated
this year yeah that's pretty cool and of course they it was the best speech tonight and they just played him right on the stage get off this is too
good you have to leave the cult kid but spoke for like 10 minutes she did yeah that was that was
awkward it was an interesting show i loved colbert's bill maher joke super funny and cutting
anthony anderson laughing that hard was super funny. You hosted the Emmys. You hosted the ESPYs?
No, I hosted...
No ESPYs.
I did the Emmys.
I did the MTV Movie Awards.
Yep.
I hosted the Spirit Awards on IFC, which was super fun.
That seems like one of the most fun gigs to have.
I try to say yes to the ones where I think it's a good room for comedy.
Yeah.
Like, the only one that I haven't done that's super comedy friendly is The for comedy. Yeah. Like, the only one
that I haven't done
that's super comedy friendly
is The Globes.
Right.
Which I would obviously love to do.
I remember they made
a couple runs of you
for the ESPYs
and you smartly said no.
I have presented
at multiple ESPYs.
Yes.
And I don't find
that it's a good room for comedy.
I would agree with you.
Seth,
my buddy Seth Meyers,
did a great job. He did, and then he made the mistake of coming back which he regretted did he regret it
i think he does oh god well he did it once then you come back and it's basically that first time
that monologue was all time he absolutely killed it yeah he threads the needle though seth can adapt
to any scenario he's really really good you can't be surprised by the fact that his show now has a real foothold.
No.
As soon as he sat behind the desk, I was like, yes, here it is.
He was going to find it.
He was going to find it.
He works too hard.
Yeah.
And he's adaptable, like I said.
Seth is a survivor and a grinder.
Right.
And he's talented.
So he's going to work forever.
I always appreciate how he uses his staff.
Mm-hmm.
He uses them in a way that it makes them better.
It helps whatever he's doing.
And it's just,
you could feel like a community sense,
you know,
he loves playing off people.
Yes.
He's like, he's very comfortable being the sort of the voice of reason guy in the
sketch.
That was Jimmy's issue until he just by reps learned how to exist on his own
he was so used to playing off other people yeah he's always at his best when there's people around
him are you talking about kimmel or yeah kimmel kimmel yeah um kimmel sorry i should have identified
the jimmy but yeah it took him he basically taught himself how to stand out on the stage yeah
and put his hands in his pockets and deliver monologues he's so fucking good now i know it's incredible how good he is like him doing the emmys and the oscars back
to back should have been a death sentence yeah you're you're so ready to be like i just saw this
dude yeah and he just killed it both of them he uh so he had you know he was an eyewitness to the
greatest awards disaster of all time.
He's right there.
He's like, Zapruder.
He's holding the camera.
Zapruder.
I had him on this podcast like three days later.
And you go from doing the Oscars to he's all of a sudden hosting a show.
Because it wasn't sweeps, but it was.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He's just in the middle.
He's doing his show after.
And he hadn't really ascended above everything and looked at a big picture.
So we went to his office.
We did a pod.
I was like, you realize that's easily the most famous moment of your career.
And it's in the first sentence of your obituary.
He's like, no, no.
It wasn't that big, was it?
I was like, yeah, it is.
It was so crazy.
It's going to be mentioned forever.
And it'll be in every Oscars clip reel for the rest of the Oscars.
And when we have the Oscars, anytime an envelope comes out, we're like, is this the right one?
Everyone's going to be like, oh boy.
Oh, here we go.
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thing that happened when you did the emmys or the most memorable thing for me it was meeting
mel brooks afterwards he came to my party i've told this story a lot but that's just the truth
yeah yeah it was incredible he was super nice to me uh i'll tell it anyway for anyone hasn't heard it because it's
such a good i'm always from running it back he i met him he said uh you were great tonight i was
like oh thank you he goes you were great because some of the jokes were great but some of the jokes
were shit but you told the jokes that were shit like they were great and i was like oh wow
thank you very much that's amazing and so i sat with him and talked for a while and told him about
how like you know he's my hero and my inspiration yeah that stuff uh and then i saw across the room
i saw john millennium nick kroll who are my buds and i was like they definitely want to be mel brooks
so i like flagged them to come over and they walked over i was like mel these are my buds. And I was like, they definitely want to meet Mel Brooks. So I like flagged them to come over.
And they walked over.
I was like, Mel, these are my good friends.
They're in comedy too.
And he's like, yes, yes, of course.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
And he goes, wasn't he great tonight?
And they're like, yeah, yeah.
And he goes, some of the jokes he told were great,
but some of them were shit.
He just told the exact same joke again. And they all laughed.
And I was like, this son of a bitch is such a pro.
He's never going to turn it off.
He always knows exactly where his laugh is. He's probably at least 90 right when you met him i think he's
like 92 oh my god it's incredible he's still so funny where do you stand on history of the world
part one i love it i feel like that that was the first mel brooks movie i saw i think it might have
been mine too yeah but i think i saw blazing saddle that i'm older than you i think i saw that in the theater but um there was a stretch of comedies from like i'm gonna say animal house
through like the modern the fletch era and then right comedy shifted but i feel like that was
the lost one history of the world yeah because that had a nice long cable run it was super
rewatchable and it had like really really funny parts to it and now it's just gone it's really
you won't even
you never even see it on tv anymore yeah maybe the rights are gone i don't know the cool thing
about it too is that it looks incredible yeah it's like super wide screened out and they shot
like huge setups all over these like it was they were doing their comedy version of those old
school epics yeah it's really pulling it off. It was a really funny,
ambitious idea.
And I actually,
do you feel like probably Monty Python,
meaning of life gets more play than history of the world.
Right.
But they have no question,
but they have a similar space.
They occupy Monty Python's like Star Trek.
It's just going to go on and on.
Yeah.
It's just the new generation comes in.
Yeah.
Um,
hot rod.
Talk to me.
My son was, first of all i liked it and i think it's gonna have a rewatchable it's gonna have a second act yeah on cable yeah my son was a massive fan
that's awesome so if you're worried about the eight to nine to ten year old demo still got it locked. Oh my God. It's just,
it's what he wants.
I mean that his generation is just like,
let's go on YouTube and find somebody who gets hit in the balls,
you know?
So like an entire movie around somebody who's trying to be evil Knievel is,
but,
um,
but it's just in his wheelhouse.
That's awesome.
We've had a,
I'm not ruling it out.
Yeah, maybe like on Netflix.
Netflix is like, what's your dream project?
I mean, Wet Hot did it.
Yeah.
And it's good.
Yeah.
I just watched the second season of that.
I'm like, I still fucking love this.
Netflix's motto of just bringing talented people in.
Yeah.
And saying, hey, any dream project you had?
Yeah. I want to do this
and i'm like great and they just you leave with the check basically it's a good model it is it's
risky for the creator because you can get buried if it doesn't pop and not a lot of checks and
balances when somebody's just like here yes that too i'm sure at hbo you probably had a support system in in place but they left
us alone creatively pretty much they had a couple of thoughts but really they were just like
great go with god and have fun yeah yeah i think they liked having something that was
just overtly silly because they're so prestigious i know their one note was more dicks can you have
three more dicks maybe i mean we would have ran out of space
on the page are you are you like sizing up dildos for for the dick like how does that is there
somebody who's in charge of dick props um yeah well yeah we did have a fake one on tour to pharmacy for orlando bloom you may know him as legolas did you know that he
was like a comedy dude like that no we just thought he would be great for it and asked and
he was into it but i mean that's totally random like you weren't friends with him no we just were
thinking of like i love doing stuff like that with people where you're not expecting it
and it's hard because everyone wants to like do their one comedy thing yeah so you run out of
people pretty fast right but we were so the the dream for us on seven days in hell the tennis one
was that kit harrington was so funny yeah and uh i'm obviously just like everyone was obsessed with
thrones and i had a meeting with him about it. And he was like, this is perfect for me.
Like I used to do comedy sketch stuff in college and I always liked playing the kind of sketch stuff in college,
the dim one.
It's like the persona I love doing.
And I was like,
fucking great.
And he was delightful.
I thought he played really well in that thing.
That,
and that's good for him.
Cause there's also a world in which he's just Jon Snow to everybody for the rest of his life no matter what he does.
So he's got to do weird stuff to set out.
He's going to be no matter what.
Like, Dan Aracliff's doing great, but he's Harry Potter.
You can't do something bigger than Thrones or Harry Potter.
No.
But you can do cool stuff.
It allows you to do literally whatever you want.
It's very freeing in a way.
Jamie Lannister's in this movie called Shot Caller.
That's excellent.
It's a prison movie.
Really?
It's excellent.
I recommend it, but it takes like 20 minutes to un-Thrones him.
Uh-huh.
And just look at the character and be like, all right, that's the character.
It's not Jamie Lannister in jail.
Right, right, right.
It's tough.
Throns is a beast.
Uh,
when,
not to go back to the Emmys,
but when Julie,
Julie,
we drive this one for the sixth time,
right?
Just recently.
Yeah.
And she was talking about Veep and she said it was the role of a lifetime.
And I was like,
you're,
you're right.
But Elaine,
it's pretty good role.
Seinfeld does pretty good Joe too. It's a tough call. You'veinfeld does a pretty good job too.
It's a tough call.
You've had an embarrassment of riches, I guess.
I think Elaine is a minus 440 favorite
over the lady from Veep.
I get it.
She's the star of Veep
and she's won all these Emmys for it.
It is the role of her lifetime.
Elaine, I think,
is probably the most important female character
of the 90s.
Probably the most memorable sitcom character of the 90s and probably the most memorable sitcom
character god damn it's so funny any women tough one seinfeld's yeah those 90s shows are in roseanne
roseanne was the 90s right but it it doesn't the difference now is seinfeld and friends keep going
roseanne died in like whenever i wonder but there's no second just because the national
anthem thing no i don't i don't really understand the reason for it maybe it's part of it but
friends is like friends is as popular now as it was 20 years ago it's on constant on every channel
and it's on every street week service and by the way when i flip to it it's i'm still very
entertained it's very good i think season one I was like, I was like basically exactly the same age as the
people on that show.
Yeah.
Season one hit a lot of things that in the pre-internet early twenties out of college,
it hit a lot of those themes.
Like it's a, it's actually a really smart show.
Yeah.
Eventually it became this kind of rom-com gone crazy, but everything does.
First couple.
Yeah. this kind of rom-com gone crazy but everything first couple yeah it's the the themes about like
one person in the group is making way more money than everyone else and right right a little subtle
stuff that was like really resonated yeah no it's a i mean it's a classic for a reason yeah did you
see the uh jay-z video which one the one that alan Yang directed. Oh yeah. The friends parody. I was just talking to Alan about a few nights ago.
We're friends.
But I did really like it.
That moment where,
uh,
is,
uh,
is her,
is her name right from here where she like holds up her finger to draw,
like shush him from the doorway.
I'm just like,
I was talking to Alan.
I was like,
I don't exactly know what it means, but I know exactly what it means. It's like, and him from the doorway. I'm just like, I was talking to Alan. I was like, I don't exactly know what it means,
but I know exactly what it means.
It's like,
and it's so terrifying.
That moment is just like chilling.
Works really well.
The umbrella credits and friends is really tough to explain to my daughter
when she watches friends,
like why that was a good idea in 1994,
the fountain and umbrellas.
And then somebody is in the fountain and she's like, what was happening with this? I was like, it's just about swath somebody's in the fountain and she's like what
was happening with this i'm just about swathes of color yeah it's hard some of the old stuff's
hard to explain other stuff has aged like all the sandler the early 90s sandler movies like
those could come out now they'd be the big daddy might as well you'd add cell phones and that's it
yeah but yeah it's basically same kind of humor all that stuff
yes for the most part i was watching fatal track i couldn't sleep last night fatal attraction was on
which launched a 15 years of blank from hell movies like right from hell and boss from hell
yeah and the rocks the cradle and whatnot that movie could come out now except for
the no cell phones but everything else it's like it's
not that dated and it feels like his middle part is dated right right um the uh the violence in
that movie is a little like whoa oh i can't believe like he's strangling her like they would
never do this in a movie now but for the most part the premise was yeah pretty good yeah they
tried to remake it a few years ago right didn't they do it they remake it all the time with like with these different there's one with idris alba
yeah idris alba when uh ellie larder is his assistant uh-huh she kind of makes a move at
them and then starts talking they every year it's some version of that yeah yeah maybe that could be
your next sports comedy sports comedy yeah it's
like a fatal attraction fatal attraction cross with a golfer with golf and that would be the
new take it's a golf announcer well it's tiger tiger with a cocktail waitress damn it it does
work what streaming service is brooklyn 999 h. There you go. Hulu newly minted, legit, Handmaid's Tale winner.
Unbelievable.
Hulu, the place to be.
Those wacky kids from Hulu.
Yeah.
Hulu's got great shows.
You know what I watched on Hulu?
What?
Is that show, it's Swedish and Danish, The Bridge.
They tried to remake it here on FX, but the original one, it's on Hulu.
And it is so fucking good.
Anytime the Swedes and the Danes combine an entertainment.
I think it's a Swede-Dane joint.
All bets are...
Swainish?
All bets are off.
All right, so Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Tuesday, which would be September 27th.
Sixth, right?
Sixth?
I should probably know.
26th.
26th.
26th.
930.
Yeah, 26th, 930.
On the original Fox.
Yeah, it's up against...
Not FX or FXX or FX2.
Fox.
We're up against the second half
of this is us so oh if you're halfway through this is us and it's getting really good be sure
to change the channel well maybe they'll be just covered in tears and they'll want to they'll be
like this is too good i gotta change the channel to something like emotion i need comedy is the
mic almost over i want to watch watch Brooklyn Nine-Nine.
That's how most people think, right?
Can you give me your number
and make sure Red Sox story before we go?
I don't have that many Red Sox stories.
Is he like on the set,
like watching his iPhone with the MLB package going?
He's almost never at our show anymore
because he's running the good place.
But he, I mean, as you know know ad nauseum during deflate gate he was
we all lost our minds yeah yeah i mean he wasn't like affleck level but yeah
you know what affleck's still really proud of that he should be who cares you know who emailed
him the next day tom brady. Yeah, exactly. Thank them.
He's operating in a different, like.
He compared it to Macbeth.
God bless him.
It was dead serious.
It wasn't exaggerated.
I like Affleck.
We were all so upset.
Like when somebody's trying to steal your quarterback, you really feel you lose your
minds.
Yeah.
I mean, it worked out.
Worked out.
We won the Super Bowl.
We came back. That game was so it's all
great what a dumb superbowl that was oh my well lat we're taping this the day after the falcons
packers game and they had this huge lead in the packer score and they're down like 18 everybody's
like oh like the falcons who knows now the shadow of that game is going to follow the Falcons. They got to shed it. I feel like since the Red Sox pulled off the 3-0 comeback,
every single finals or end game of sports is like completely up for grabs at all times.
Yeah.
When I was growing up and then your generation after me, I think.
But our generations, it was like the game's usually over.
The 86 World Series was a complete anomaly when the Mets.
That was the first series I ever watched.
Yeah.
With my dad.
It was incredible.
Nobody could,
but now that seems like even the last year,
the Cubs Indians,
they tie it.
And then there's a rain delay.
It was,
and it was like,
you couldn't make up the nine years.
Superbowl where like the power went out.
Like there's always some crazy ass thing that happens now.
The world might be ending.
The Warriors losing that 3-1 was bananas and horrible.
And also clearly fixed.
I'm with Aisha.
But it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter. The Adam Silver car you're talking about?
Yeah.
The Draymond suspension?
The Draymond suspension.
And then, of course, LeBron and Kyrie took it.
So you can't fault them.
Pretty shady.
Just Silver.
If people didn't like him so much,
like if Goodell did that,
that would be people would have to lose their minds.
It was pretty infuriating.
Everyone who's mad about KD going to the Warriors,
they should be mad that they suspended Draymond
because that's why they did it.
They were like, okay, so even with this team,
there's still a chance we can lose to LeBron and the league.
You would have won in five
because the game before was the game the Cavs needed
and they kind of ripped their hearts out and it seemed like it was over and then Steph the game six got
ejected right that was what happened like all those ticky-tack files after they were mugging
him constantly on every screen the other thing is LeBron would just be stuck in Cleveland until he
brought them a title he wouldn't be able to go to the Lakers and start the next phase of his life
so who like year 22 he's just it's gonna be so embarrassing if you
go if he does go to the lakers now because it's everyone's saying it's gonna happen i feel like
he should switch it up and just go somewhere totally else it doesn't help when he's like here
at private schools with his kids he doesn't give a fuck anymore he's decided extension he's like
probably like second or third best player of all time yeah i have to do what he wants yeah he's fine who do you have second
i have uh jordan first yeah the great bill russell second fair but i i do it with the
obviously bill russell like if whoever played in 1965 from this era anthony davis you sent him to
1964 yeah he'd be amazing but just
so if you're doing the air it's like bill russell 11 and 13 you know if lebron goes to the lakers
and paul george goes to the lake you're gonna be writing space jam 3 with him and so
oh man trust me i'd write it in a heartbeat and they're gonna get someone else right and say
it could be russell westbrook that's what I'm saying. If that team forms... The big stupid rumor people keep hearing, but nobody will confirm is those three.
But is everyone going to be mad at LeBron the way they're mad at KD?
Or no, because they didn't play them the year before?
That's the difference.
I think Kyrie getting out of Dodge a year early was a pretty big sign that this is where it's heading.
Not to mention the Lakers tampering with Paul George and all the other stuff.
I don't think people, I was talking to my dad about this.
Like when Johnny Damon went to the Yankees in 05,
people in Boston were just like, what about loyalty?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was that era.
And then the decision with LeBron changed it.
Yeah.
And now it's keeping, now after KD and everything,
I don't think, i think fans get it
now that it's just a business i love that isaiah letter he wrote it was great it was really cool
it was the complete opposite of the gordon hayward letter
i have three letters prepared depending on which team i'm on it's like this is bad
you gotta fire everyone around you if that's your plan i love thinking about gordon hayward
asking people to like like uh screen read his letter i feel like you don't need to hit salt lake so hard i'm being
boring like just lose that stuff just say thanks i mean it is super boring though
don't call it small take that out it's funny though like if uh celebrities had their version
of the players tribute like if you're leaving snl and you write a letter to the snl fans i mean it's time for me to move on yeah
i mean you get asked that immediately when you do every interview so it is kind of like you have to
address it like an athlete yeah but you're right snl is like a sports franchise i always said it's
like america's comedy sports franchise and like the show is like if you ever went to summer camp it's like campfire
for the week right for the whole country it's been in my life since i can remember since i was
six for the first season yeah the first show is when i started watching oh so we're closer in age
than i thought uh well i was when i started watching yeah um i was born in 99. Just kidding.
The famous Carlton Fisk Homer.
Uh-huh.
Waving the ball fair.
Yeah.
Immortalized in Good Will Hunting 20 years later.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Same night as the first SNL.
Is that right?
Yeah.
That's a nice factoid. That's a great night.
It's a great night of television right there.
Plus, they only had like six channels back then.
But yeah, so I've been with it all the way through.
And it is like athletes and part of what how it's like athletes is you can always tell when the cast
members probably ready to go yeah last year like i told you i was like andy's not staying you could
tell i can tell a little bit no it's just you can tell yeah start projects are messing around yeah
it gets harder it got trickier for me also because akiva and yorma both had sort of left and they came back and helped me and did like a few a year of the digital shorts
but the way that we were able to maintain the level of quality we did was a combination of
the three of us always sort of being there together and then making the album so we had
sort of backup songs ready to go.
So you don't do anything with those guys anymore?
No, we just put out Popstar.
Oh yeah, two years ago.
All three of you were in that?
We wrote it, produced it.
That was another movie I shouldn't have let my son watch.
Yeah, there's some weenie in that.
A lot of weenies in your stuff, man.
It's so funny. Little d of weenies in your stuff, man. It's so funny.
Little dinky weenies
bopping around.
It's funny.
I was like,
did you see the first one
of The Deuce?
Yeah, I saw the second episode
of The Deuce last night.
The pilot of The Deuce,
there's just,
they just,
HBO's like,
yeah, you can put two dicks in it.
So I was like,
I need three.
There's hard dick in it
and I thought that wasn't allowed.
Listen, I don't know what's allowed anymore. anymore isa ray took a cum shot in the eye and the
third to last insecure seriously yeah right in the eye i gotta watch then she went into uber
pool with her like right eye like half closed that's so funny yeah i don't know hbo i don't
know i don't know how many boundaries are left yeah i kind of got the feeling in the deuce and i
could find this out so i should
that the time they like showed a girl like a girl blowing a guy in a telephone booth
and yes i was like it was a hard wang yeah and i was like that looks fake though looks like a fake
wang i don't think you can show a real hard dick on tv that's that's my guess hey who was the guy
who did that the vincent gallo he made that movie with Claire Sevigny.
Brown Money.
That was a hard one.
But they would never show that on any of the cable channels.
I never watched it.
I never saw it either.
Yeah.
It wasn't a good selling point.
So hey, you could see Vincent Gallo's crank.
Honestly, I felt like, I mean, obviously everyone made their own decisions, but I was like,
I don't want to watch that.
I was more disturbed that he was a Bills fan too. Was the part of it didn't that right yeah well that was a different movie i think he's
just a bills fan at every movie oh is he in brown bunny too i don't know i'm guessing i didn't see
it as mentioned i did not partake um all right we should wrap this up alright
Andy Sandberg
that was awesome
yeah thanks for having me
good luck with
good luck with the title defense
with the Warriors
I'm not gonna wish you
as much luck with the Raiders
cause I think our teams
are gonna cross paths
they're gonna cross paths
that's fair
it's gonna happen
I'm more a Niners fan
maybe round three
I'm a Niners fan
I can't act like I'm a Raiders fan
now that they're back in Oakland
I mean I'm pulling for them
cause I'm from Berkeley and Oakland but they were in LAland but they were in la are you sports bigamist
i root for football teams i root for the giants when they're doing well but they're not my number
one team i'm an ace fan okay but i'll root for them over any other team for bay area for bay
area and also like i've attended a ton of giants games growing
up i had friends that were giants fans and we'd go to candlestick and i love that experience does
that sports bigamy i need sports bigamy really one area okay i'm i'm not trying to act like i
root for both equally it's a's niners and warriors okay i would never like i don't like wear raiders
hats i didn't have a raiders starter
jacket in junior high it was because of the joe montana masturbating sketch that's what did it
and they're so fucking good the niners were so good to me when i was young i'll stick with them
forever when i was in college i specifically told other people around me if any other quarterback
comes along punch me in the face if I say they were better than Joe Montana.
Nobody can be better than this.
This is it.
We've peaked with Joe Montana.
Now I'm like, Tom Brady, best quarterback ever.
I think he's the best ever just based on how much he's won.
Brady's got the, yeah, he's played eight extra years.
Very similar.
Very similar stories, similar vibe.
He's Joe Montana with better technology.
Yeah.
Joe Montana didn't technology. Yeah.
Joe Montana didn't have any of the stuff that Brady's,
the avocado ice cream, all the shit he's doing.
Montana didn't have that. They're both like brilliant minds
and also had incredible coaches that were geniuses.
And Brady was a Montana student.
That was his dude.
Yeah, exactly.
Loved him.
Model his career.
All right, Andy Sandberg.
Thank you.
This was fun.
Thank you.
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