The Bill Simmons Podcast - Are Baltimore and Cincy Screwed? Plus, Underdog Weekend, the 0-2 Curse, a Bryce Benching, and Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal
Episode Date: September 16, 2024The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss the Texans' win in what seemed like an endless 'SNF' matchup with the Bears (1:19); all the 0-2 teams; some surprising upsets, including 49...ers-Vikings, Lions-Buccaneers, and Cowboys-Saints (4:34); the Jets escaping the Titans; and the Seahawks' overtime win in Foxborough (42:22). Then Bill makes some statements after the Week 2 slate and asks Sal if they're "definitely" or "maybe" true (47:49). Finally, they guess the lines for NFL Week 3 (1:03:33) before closing the show with Parent Corner (1:25:02). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producer: Kyle Crichton The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Pearl Jam! We made it, Sal.
We're here.
The Bears-Pexans game is finally over.
We're live on YouTube doing the Guess the Lions BS podcast.
And that game started
at 5.15. What the hell was that?
What happened?
Why did they let that go so long? They can call that game,
can't they?
What was the game
earlier today that was like two hours
and 40 minutes? It was over at
I don't know. It was at Cardinals
Rams. One of those games was super fast.
Houston, Chicago quickly.
Is Caleb going to survive until
November with that offensive line? That was my
big takeaway. I fear for this guy's
life. Really bad.
Really, really bad for them.
I feel like
they won time of possession somehow.
I thought their drives were like 40 seconds long, like they won time of possession somehow. I thought their drives were like 40 seconds long,
but they won time of possession.
And I don't even know if it's the offensive line
because they just don't want to pick up that blitzer from the alley.
Whoever it is, just gets them full on.
They're like, oh, we have five blockers.
You have six guys.
I guess Caleb's going to get hit again.
Yeah, here comes another Roman Reigns spear.
Here's another one and another. They Roman Reigns sphere, a spear.
Here's another one and another,
like they get them.
It can't be cleaner.
Yeah.
I didn't want to start with that game,
but that was one takeaway.
And the other was just,
is there a good AFC team?
And I know people say,
Oh,
Casey's two.
No,
they're going for a three P,
but,
uh,
watching that chiefs Bengals game,
which we're going to get into.
I did not leave that game going,
man,
the chiefs are humming on all cylinders.
You go through the AFC,
Buffalo probably looked the best out of anybody on Thursday night, right?
But they're already banged up on defense.
Pittsburgh's winning the AFC North right now.
AFC South, we just watched Houston.
They made a million mistakes.
They couldn't even get to 20 points.
I don't know what their play calling was doing. And you go on
down the line, and it's like, it just, the AFC
feels wide open, right?
I'm with you. And even the Texans at 2-0
showed, like, they should have put that game, I don't want to go back
to this game now, but they should have
had 30. Really, I don't know if
it's the Bears' defense, but yeah, I feel
like we're like 13 weeks into the season
already. Like, you know,
like, maybe week two is
just nonsense and this is what we
get for overreacting
and that's why none of us
made any money. We did the YouTube show today
and all we talked about was overreactions
and watch out for this, watch out for that.
And yet, underdogs
were 10-4 heading into
tonight's game. And then the Bears
was that a cover or was that not a cover?
What was that?
A push?
No,
that was six.
Or was that an official cover?
I see my sheet here.
Let me go.
Hold on.
I got it.
Hold on.
Let's see.
I just,
I just,
I just saw Biden's son on that.
What was going on?
That was not a cover.
That's not a cover.
I'm sending this to Ukraine.
You're right.
No, not a cover. I think only one cover. I'm sending this to Ukraine. You're right. No, not a cover.
I think only one four-point favorite or higher covered today.
Okay.
So the underdogs were 11-4 today.
Eight of those won outright.
And there were landmines left and right.
I jumped on two of them.
House was trying to talk me out of Malik Willis going against him on million-dollar picks.
The Jacksonville one, that was another one.
We'll talk about all those.
We're going to start with the 0-2 teams, though.
So I read this.
Since 2021, we've had 21 0-2 teams with the 17-game schedule.
Do you know how many of those teams made the playoffs?
21 teams.
21 0-2 teams.
So in 2021, 22, and 23. We had 21-0
in two teams.
I'm going to say all of them.
I'm not good at this game. No, no, no. I'll say
three.
Is it three or four?
Is it three? Okay. All right.
Only four of them went 9-8 or better.
So, granted, small sample
size, but also not that small.
22, Cincy, and 23 houston won their
divisions the 21 colts made the playoffs one other team went nine and eight everybody else was under
oh and two is a little bit more of a death sentence than i think uh people realize because
the season's so long you just feel like there's a million twists and turns you can do whatever
uh cincinnati we'll start with them. They're on to.
Giveaway loss to the Pats.
I still don't know.
The Pats score 16 and somehow control the game
and beat them.
And then,
just a choke job today.
Right?
A game they should have won.
The Burrow fumble TD.
Jamar Chase
gets the 15-yard penalty
to basically knock them out
so they have to kick field goal
because he can't stop yelling at the ref.
And then the coup de grace, fourth and 16,
they rush three.
That's a great idea.
Let's give Mahomes eight seconds
and then pass interfere on the fourth and 16 pass.
The rookie hit him early.
The Chiefs end up winning.
It was like the moment they had the three guys,
I was like, oh my God,
they've never seen Mah homes play in their lives.
And somehow the chiefs steal another one. The chiefs could be Owen too.
I know there's a couple of those teams that could be Owen too. And, uh,
well, first of all, can we just tell everyone to pump the brakes with the,
Oh, the refs give the chiefs a game. They did it again.
Like that was the right call, you know, it was a right call.
I'm not allowed to do that. Yeah. But they were bailed out. It's like,
all right. It's like saying, oh, that cop
is making tons of money for the local government.
It's like, yeah, but the guy was doing 65
and a 30. You have to call
that. That's stupid.
The borough fumble was a little weird.
I find it hard to believe we didn't have a good
angle of the borough fumble
with the 45 cameras
we have.
I guess it's got to call us in. I have no idea if that was a fumble with the 45 cameras we have. I was like, I guess it's got to call us in.
I have no idea if that was a fumble or not.
Yeah.
You just see where he strips them,
tries to strip them violently.
You don't actually really see if the ball comes out,
but so from the positives,
the Bengals talk shit all week.
I was terrified of this game.
I,
this was one of the few possible teases I completely stayed away from
burrow look better.
I thought they should have won the game.
They were right there.
He had more time to throw, which I thought was good.
They still didn't have T. Higgins in this game.
They're to not make the playoffs plus 110.
So basically even money.
They are not even close to being a cross off to me.
I thought those were two stupid losses.
No, you can't cross them off.
I think because, mainly
because, what's the
seven seed in the AFC? They're
one and one, right?
What do you mean? The seven seed would be
one and one. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. They're only a game
out of the seven seed right now. And they're
one of the three teams that did just what you said.
They came back from 0-2 and made the playoffs.
So there's a little bit of pedigree, I guess, if you will.
But yeah, I don't know.
He's thrown to the tight end.
I think he needs T. Higgins more.
I think they threw to the tight end like 16 times or something crazy.
He was buried on the pads last year.
Yeah, yeah.
So they need more.
I guess we saw Lou Anarumo's defense for most of the game
until they let up in the fourth.
But it was kind of a classic Chiefs game, if you ask me.
Well, I mean, we could talk about them quick.
It's stupid.
You just feel like they're going to steal these games if it's late.
It's very similar to the mid-2000s Pats.
And, you know, there's been basketball teams like that. They're like, oh, man, don't let these guys hang around. steal these games if it's late. It's very similar to the mid-2000s Pats.
There's been basketball teams like that. They're like, oh man, don't let these guys hang around. They're going to make two plays. It's probably the only
team in the league where it's fourth and 16. They're like, oh my God, they're going to get this.
It's going to happen. But I will say on the Chiefs,
I know we have more on two teams to get to, but on the Chiefs, the no Hollywood
Brown looks like he's out for the year.
Kelsey is,
it's playing out exactly how we thought he's,
I don't want to say irrelevant,
but not really that involved either.
And it just seems like they have him in the garage with one of those like
fancy covers over him.
They're not using them that much,
but from an explosive standpoint,
Rice made one big play and that was really it.
They don't really seem to have a backup running back.
I know they have Perrine as the third down guy,
but they're bringing in Carson Steele with two minutes left,
and both of these wins they had this rookie who was like,
really, this is your backup running back in a big moment?
So I don't know.
They seem a little thin, but they're the Chiefs,
and they're going to go 13-4.
They rely on that guy with the crazy hair a lot,
the running back. Yeah, and I think the Czechos banged up too. They had to, right?
So he was 19 for 19. So if he's hurt, that's another thing. And I think people are
banking on Xavier Worthy being like, oh, he's going to be a threat. He's going to be a go-to
guy. He might have like three or four touches a game, and you have to hope that one of them
explodes, you know yeah
so I don't know they have some other tight
ends they just extended one of them
but I think the thing you
could say about the Chiefs is they're the team to beat
right that's the best thing you could
kind of say about this thing well
nobody well nobody's taken the
spot yet but right
but that goes back to the AFC
January yeah yeah the team to beat well I'm not the spot yet, but... Right. But that goes back to the AFC conversation. But us in January.
Yeah. Yeah.
The other team would be.
Well, I'm not...
It's stupid to cross off
an 0-2 team, but I wouldn't.
I'm not ready to
panic about the Bengals.
Last year felt worse.
Mm-hmm.
Last year was like,
oh, man, this...
Like, I don't know.
And then it just seemed like
they had year-from-hell potential.
This year,
I think they'd probably
play out of this.
All right, Baltimore's our next one.
That's another team that's two plays away
from being 2-0.
Lamar did make the comment after the game
about how they have to get their mojo back.
The big concern for me,
so Vegas beats them.
Vegas is historically bad running the ball this year.
They're 17 for 27 today.
Their offense was 4.3 yards per play.
The game felt over for two plus hours.
And then all of a sudden it's like,
oh no, they're up 10.
No, no, here we go.
Vegas driving again.
And then all of a sudden the game was tied.
And they're like, all right, Lamar,
just can you just end this?
Nope.
Then Vegas had the ball again.
Wait, is Vegas going to win this?
And then all of a sudden the game was over. What the hell happened?
I'm looking at the numbers.
They should have put this game away. This is what they
did last year. Remember at home, they were beating teams
by 30 and 40. They were putting them away,
especially a team like the Raiders, who
I know are a knuckleball squad that you just
want to strangle. But
they had 150 yards
rushing, 84 from Henryry it all added up
like that they should have um scored in the 30s so i don't know why they ended up with 23 and uh
we're relying on tucker kicks still right and he missed a long one that's their fourth double
digit lead in the fourth quarter that they've blown since 2022 the thing that concerned me
they had a bunch of penalties too they had 11. The thing that concerned me, they had a bunch of penalties too.
They had 11 penalties.
The thing that concerned me though,
it just seems like you could move the ball down the field
on them when you need to, right?
Like Bowers, who was awesome,
and Adams had 20 catches today.
Minshew was like 80%.
And it just felt like every time he needed to throw for seven,
eight yards, once they realized they couldn't run the ball, they could do it. And I don't know if
that gets better for the Ravens. So for them, for no playoffs was plus 104. So it's pretty in the
neighbor of the, uh, the Bengals. Um, I gotta say, like I put them in a couple of teases today. I was
like, Baltimore's not going on to their home. They're playing Gardner Minshew. Like this is take care of business. This is the only second own to start
they've had with Harbaugh in 16 years. I have more concerns for them than the Bengals.
We talked about it all week that we said they're the, no way this team's going on to team. Right.
And so where, where the Bengals screwed everybody on the eliminator pick last week,
this was the Ravens.
Like, we could make it.
You can have a perfect eliminator pick
just like picking good teams
to win every week,
and they don't.
They just come up short.
I don't know what's going on
with this league.
I don't even really know
how to explain the Vegas comeback,
but I will say Bowers was awesome.
He just has it.
Like, he's one of those. He's like a video game tight end. They He just has it. He's one of those.
He's like a video game tight end.
They throw him in the middle.
It's almost like he's looking for dudes to run into
so he can bounce off this guy, this guy, carry this guy.
Tap B, he'll spin.
I think he actually scored.
They didn't give him the touchdown,
but I actually think he scored on that one.
So their next three.
Here's another reason I'm a little more bullish on Cincy,
although their schedule is not a walk in the park
either
their next three
Baltimore
at Dallas next week
home Buffalo
at Cincinnati
yeah
this was one of the
stretches
yep
to win the division
they are still favored
plus 185
on FanDuel
Cincy's plus 190.
Pittsburgh's plus 360.
They're 2-0.
And your Cleveland Browns, plus 450.
So nobody in that division is, basically, it's 2-1 and up if you want to bet on that division.
Remember when we tried to pick first through fourth in this division?
I was like, no, good luck, man.
You can give me 30 guesses.
I'm not going to get it.
What do you think that Baltimore offense is missing?
Like I said, I was looking at those numbers.
What would you want out of Henry?
Like, hey, if you can get us 18 for 84.
I was watching it going, oh, yeah.
I don't even know.
They have power running.
They have good tight ends.
Flowers is good.
It seems like they have speed with Aguilar.
Like, I don't know what I would add.
We were saying their best offensive play through all of it
is, though, when their offensive line breaks down
and Lamar just takes off up the middle, right?
And so that's maybe why they're not so hot in the red zone
because you lose that if he doesn't have timeouts
or doesn't have the end zone to back him up.
So I don't know, though.
I really am more concerned about their defense. I think that initial point that you can move on him. I don't know, though. I really am more concerned about their defense. I think that
initial point that you can move
on them. I don't know if it's a Patrick Queen thing
or what, but
they need to...
It's
one thing to say if it's Patrick Mahomes doing
it, but when Gardner Minshew, it's not like
good quarterbacks are going in there and
embarrassing them. A team that basically
said, we can't run the ball.
We're just going to throw it every down.
The Ravens still let them throw.
I have real concerns about them.
I'm slightly more concerned about them than Cincinnati.
Next one is Jacksonville.
Now, their odds are a little different.
What do you think their odds are not to make the playoffs?
To not?
Okay, so the Texans are 2-0.
Everybody else in that division is 0-2.
To not is minus 180 or is it
higher? Minus
355. Wow.
Vegas is like, we've seen enough.
This is the worst coach team in the league.
We're out. This is
the dumbest team in the league. It's enraged
me that I bet on them today.
Especially coming back after last
week against Miami. And they
took the stupid up seven notches in this game. Sal, they had, first of all, Cleveland was two
for 14 on third down and one. Cleveland had 13 penalties for a hundred yards and still won.
Jacksonville had first and goal from the two, settled for a field goal. First and goal from
the 19 inside the rent zone, field goal miss. First and goal from the 19 inside the rent zone, field goal miss.
First and goal from the six, touchdown. Second and goal from the two, went backwards, kicked a
field goal. This is the stupidest team you've ever watched. And it's like, hey, Trevor Lawrence,
is there a guy you can overthrow in a huge moment? Oh, there he is. Try to throw it right over his
head. I just can't stand them.
I really can't.
I'm never betting on them again.
And I probably will next week.
They're brutal.
I picked them to win the division.
I'm ashamed of myself.
And I send you,
I'm going to do this every week.
I send you and Hench and House
the first,
those 1 p.m. games,
the first half stats
for the quarterbacks.
I mean, they're miserable. Everybody's at 40 yards. Everyone's at 46 yards. But. games, the first half stats for the quarterbacks. I mean, they're miserable. Everybody's at
40 yards. Everyone's at 46 yards.
But this one, Trevor Lawrence had
16 yards and
Jack Fox, the punter for Detroit
had 17 yards. What kind
of odds could you have gotten on Jack Fox
over Trevor Lawrence at halftime?
Trevor Lawrence was so
bad for the first two hours of this game
that I almost couldn't believe it.
Because I have him in two fantasy leagues.
I bet him to throw for 4,000 yards.
He was just sailing the ball all over the place.
And then Thomas, who I think gets like three targets a game,
who every time they throw to him,
it's the most exciting play on any TV, right?
It's these 50 yards downfield, jumping up.
And then it's like, all right, put that guy
on ice for another hour.
I don't understand how they're 0-2.
I actually thought they should have won both of
those games. I don't understand how you don't beat
Deshaun Watson. And Deshaun,
to his credit, was better than last week.
He definitely hung in there.
He took off. Did you see how he tried to blow it
at the end, though, with the clock management?
He sure did. Snapping the ball with nine left on the play clock,
and then does that roll out on third down
where you're supposed to just take a knee,
and then he has a defender in his face,
and he chucks it into his face mask,
so that stopped the clock.
I was like, how is Jacksonville getting the ball back
with 137 left, let alone any time?
And yeah, they almost blew it.
Jacksonville are a classic.
They get the ball back.
It's that they're on like the three yard line.
They're down three.
It's like less than four minutes left,
five minutes left, whatever it was.
And it's just like, they're so fucking stupid.
Lawrence is probably going to get sacked for his safety.
Like whatever play they're running here,
it's probably a play where he's going to hold the ball
and get sacked for a
safety.
You're just watching it go.
And I,
you can see it coming off the highway.
And then of course he did like no quick pass,
no,
like just quick run up the middle to buy five yards,
no send Thomas down the sidelines and just chuck it and see if he can run
under it,
get a PI.
No,
it was the Trevor Lawrence.
I'm going to take three steps back.
My first read isn't open.
Then I'm just going to curl right into a sack.
They are so stupid.
How is this always the worst coach team?
You know what I sense in your voice?
More than just, you lost money and I lost money.
No, I know.
But I think you're also disappointed in Trevor Lawrence.
I am.
I think we have to be.
We have to be disappointed in the quarterbacks
who were once deemed good
and God knows,
maybe even people
sending them to the Hall of Fame
and now because they're so bad
as a bunch,
these quarterbacks,
we can't lose any good ones
or mid-range ones even.
So yeah,
I'm with you.
It's disgusting.
Even he sucked
and he sucked
and he sucked
and then he made
this awesome scramble
and he ran downfield
like a gazelle for like 40 yards.
And it looked like he was going to run in the end zone
and like put his shoulder down and just bowl his way in.
And instead he did like this weird tiptoe thing,
got tackled on the two, and then they went backwards.
And I don't even think they scored.
They might have settled for a field goal.
But that's just something's missing with that guy.
They're so weird.
And we thought this was going to be the year he blossomed.
And instead, it's like
now I have more doubts than ever
with them. Anyway, no playoffs for them.
Minus
355.
I'm not going the other way because I already
have enough on them, but that is
high. So the Rams,
they're our fourth
0-2 team. Their entire team is now in the hospital.
I don't know if you realize Cooper cup.
Couldn't make it two weeks.
They got the Arizona game was over.
People didn't even realize it was on yet.
It was the four or five game.
We were like,
Hey,
I think there's a game on and you go and it was already seven,
nothing.
And,
uh,
Arizona ran all over them.
No playoffs for them., Sal. Minus
600.
Next three games, San Francisco home,
at Chicago,
home Green Bay.
I don't know if this is our year from hell
team yet, but this is the heavy favorite that
this is the year from hell team.
So we had like nine guys go down already.
It's funny. We went back to back Jacksonville
and the Rams because those are my,
I'd pick both of them to win the division.
Really, you should do this podcast with somebody else,
anybody else.
Just grab Ben Simmons.
Like, I don't know why I have the Rams in there.
Which Ben Simmons?
My son or the,
have them alternate.
The entire basketball party, either of them?
Yeah.
Either one will work.
But yeah, I mean,
because I love this game for the Rams.
I bought into the trend.
What is he?
13 and two?
Sean McVay against him.
And by the way,
we stayed away from the trend
Thursday night.
Oh, the Bills,
they own Josh Allen
on Thursday nights.
I'm like, damn it.
I'm not doing this again.
I'm taking,
I'm going with the trend.
The Rams are better.
The Cardinals have no defense.
Look at this.
Kylo Murray's already
disarray his relationship with Marvin Harrison.
What a trick that was, huh?
What a trick that was.
Like, hey, it's not my fault if he can't catch the ball.
I'm like, oh, he's done with him.
And like you said, before anyone knew the game was on,
he had two touchdowns.
It was 14-0.
But I think you're right about the Rams being done.
Harrison, every single play he made was completely different
than the previous awesome play he made.
He basically played the hits. It was like a YouTube video. I think the Rams are done.
Cup going down was kind of the final straw. Now they don't have Cup or Puka heading into the year.
And I ended up putting them in the playoffs, but my fear was they were so top heavy. It's like,
fuck man. If they lose one receiver, if Stafford goes out three weeks like you just start going
down there's like an eight-man team yeah i don't have enough confidence in tutu atwell to uh to
carry them for the next 15 weeks we have a couple more oh and tt oh and two teams left but let's uh
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I forgot we were on YouTube.
I just kind of paused for...
Yeah, we can't do that.
Sorry, people watching YouTube.
This is what usually moon me.
This is when I usually do cocaine.
I forgot.
I was going to do like three bumps.
All right.
Next, I want to team Indianapolis,
who gave up 473 yards rushing over the last two weeks.
They lost to Malik Willis today,
who I don't think attempted a pass that traveled in the air
for more than like five yards.
He was 12 for 14, 122 yards.
He had six carries for 41 rushing yards.
He had to see it to believe it.
Gus Bradley,
who a lot of the diehard football people have been saying is terrible for a while.
This was his masterpiece. He was so bad. They were third and ones with Malik Willis as the quarterback where they had like five guys on the line and two linebackers, like,
like he was going to throw deep. I was just speechless. I couldn't believe how dumb that
I would have put all 11 guys on the line. All they were doing was exactly what everyone said
all week, including on most of our gambling shows is, Hey, LaFleur, it's going to run a
bunch of gimmicks, quick passes, little mini reverses, little pitches, and, you know,
basically like act like a high school football
team. And Gus Bradley is just in his base defense. That guy shouldn't last a week.
It made so little sense that I bet the Packers. I was like, are you kidding me? They didn't break
anyone in to compete with Malik Willis this week. What do we see with them? I can't even believe
he's on a roster at this point.
They're going to force me
to bet on him.
And then, like,
you're right, you're saying,
like, all right,
the only way they're going to do it
is to rush for 261 yards.
And they did that.
151 for Jacobs.
Like, yeah, Gus Bradley.
I don't know.
I forget who the D coordinator
is for them.
But just disgusting.
And they took forever
to score that last touchdown.
Like, they're really,
really, like, running it like there's 11 minutes left.
I took the game up to TV at that point.
Listen, Green Bay only scored 16 points.
Yep.
The Colts were just completely throttled by this Packers defense
that the Eagles, you know, basically crushed in Brazil.
Anthony Richardson was not a good game
for him. He's pretty raw.
He makes
some of the worst throws you'll see
on the TVs on a Sunday.
He had a couple doozies today.
Just looks really raw.
There are no playoffs that's minus 400.
I actually think that should be higher.
They have a top four or five worst defense
in the league.
I'm not sure about...
You know, you might have just picked the wrong South
to have a combined 31 wins or whatever it was.
Right.
Right?
It might just be that it's going to be the NFC South.
Well, Carolina's going to go in 17.
So what was the fando odds?
We're 30 for the NFC South?
Yeah, so we just have to make sure the other three don't get to 30.
That's true.
I don't see indy making
the playoffs i don't see tennessee making it either oh and two with two giveaway losses they
have the worst quarterback i mean that guy is just uh we've i don't you know whatever doctor
you want to listen to mayonnaise in the coffee definitely causes brain damage because that guy
with the willis with the or uh levis levis backward flip that you're gonna see like when
the coach is saying,
what the fuck are you doing for millions of people to see? Maybe it's time to take him out.
Well, it's like both of our sons have played flag football when that's like,
you know, they're 10 or 11 or 12. And every once in a while there's a flag football player. We're
like, Oh my God, why did Johnny do that? Why did you, why did Johnny think he could just lateral
it backwards to the referee?
Just like the stupidest things you'll ever see.
And Levis has done like three of those.
He loves it.
It's his go-to.
It's his finisher.
He's just kind of like gaming.
He's just out there like, whoa, hey.
It's like watching somebody play quarterback who's drunk.
If he came out after, it's like,
well, Levis has been drinking before these games.
It's like, ah, that makes sense.
And with no memory either.
It's like, oh, now I remember why everyone's mad at me
because I did this last week in a game that was unlosable.
Yeah.
You're right.
I shouldn't have thrown it to the other team.
All right, coach.
I get your side of it.
No playoffs, minus 600.
Denver.
Denver. no playoffs minus 600 Denver so
Bo Nix
the Bo Nix Bryce Young
passing stats are about as brutal as it gets
there's like
historically bad stuff
I watched that whole game because I really
needed Pittsburgh to win for a variety
of reasons
you watch it because the NFL screwed us
and gave us only three games.
There was 10 games early and three late.
Denver kind of controlled the second half
secretly and
just missed a couple plays, but
that game was a little scarier than
13-6. Pittsburgh did nothing
in the second half. They couldn't move the ball
at all.
I think Pickens set a record for celebrating
plays that were called back for a penalty.
It might have been three.
You're right.
What's there? No playoffs.
It's got to be 13-1.
Yeah, 20-1.
They had a chance.
Can we just talk about that game for a second?
That ended.
Why did they not onside kick?
Has the league made the onside kick so impossible
that Sean Payton's like,
no, we have to kick deep with a minute 43 left
and one timeout.
It's like, really?
You're going to get it back with 18 seconds?
They got it back with eight seconds.
I have a different complaint about that.
So it's 13 to three.
It's fourth and five.
They're on the 10 yard line.
They need two scores.
You go for it.
Yeah, because you're not going to...
You kick a field goal,
then you have to go 70 yards
whenever you get the ball back.
The much easier, more realistic snare
is convert the 4th and 5.
You cut it to 3.
Then if you get the ball back,
all you have to do is get to like the 40 yard line.
Cause everybody can kick a 50 yard.
I was shocked that he,
that he just settled for the field goal and I'm watching it going,
you know,
I have all money and I'm rooting for Pittsburgh cause I have division bets on
them and all kinds of things.
And I'm just like,
Oh my God,
he's going to go for this and they're going to get it.
And they're going to fucking somehow force this game in overtime.
But I thought he screwed that up too.
Especially with the Steelers. The idea that you're going to get four first downs're going to fucking somehow force this game to overtime. Especially with the Steelers.
The idea that you're going to get four first downs
in a row against that defense is not
probable.
I don't know.
Not being able to onside kick. The guy who onside kicked
at halftime against the Colts in the Super
Bowl passes
on the onside kick because of the new rule.
I got to see what this looks like.
Do you think
Bo Nix is a starting quarterback?
He is on
one of my fantasy teams.
You pointed it out.
That's our double QB team.
I think we should have double kickers.
You're right. Everyone's booming 55
yarders. I was against having kickers at all.
I think everybody should have two kickers now.
Maybe we should just have a kicker league.
Yeah, you're right. Maybe that's the way to do it.
I still think Bo Nix
could maybe fight back somehow
to be a quarterback in this league.
He was portrayed by
his tight end with the long hair. What's his name?
Dolchich? Yeah. He dropped at least
two easy passes. He was just awful.
I have not seen a lot from Bo that are like... Dolchich. He dropped at least two easy pairs. He was just awful.
I have not seen a lot from Bo that are like...
All year in the offseason,
I interview ex-quarterbacks or whatever
for the Ringer shows.
I asked
almost all of them about these three. Everybody's
like, oh, they're going to all be special.
It's like, I know you're
not allowed to say one of them is going to suck,
but two or three of them are going to suck.
Yeah, I'll tell you, it's 50-50.
Isn't it?
So you can go back on that pretty much anytime you want.
It's the history of the league says 50-50 odds at best, maybe 40-60.
Tomorrow in two teams, we can cross them off now.
The Giants, who today against Washington
became the first team ever
to score three touchdowns,
give up zero touchdowns,
and lose.
And apparently,
their kicker,
who had been banged up all week,
but they weren't smart enough
to make sure they had another kicker
on the roster.
And that leads to that.
So every Giants fan I know
would probably run Joe Shane over in their car
if there was no video cameras.
They're really bad.
Not a surprise.
But somehow Carolina is way worse.
Carolina is minus 60 already for the season.
We have 15 games left.
They're at minus 60.
They've scored 13 points.
Benching Bryce.
Shout out again to Stephen Ruiz on my pod a month ago.
This was one of his hottest takes that he thought Bryce Young would get benched this season.
Right.
And I think we're in range.
Because it's that bad.
It is like you can't have them on a TV.
He's such a mess.
Yeah.
I don't know if he makes it to November.
This is one of those 35
yard a half guys that
just doesn't give you a chance to win. You look
at his first half stats. I'm just looking
and trying to see as if it matters.
Oh, Andy Dalton's the backup.
We'll get a good laugh out of that.
Yeah, man. I don't
know how much they could see. This is a
very sad franchise all of a
sudden. It doesn't really even matter who they play. Like, oh, the Panthers were see. This is a very sad franchise all of a sudden. And it doesn't really even matter
who they play. Like, oh, the
Panthers were six. That's a steal
at six against the Chargers who don't
travel well. Went down to four and a half. Don't touch
it. And Chargers are up before. That's
the one game I didn't watch. I'll be honest.
I was able to see nine games.
I had to kick one of the ten off.
I had it on my cable
by box that has the cable TV
because House and I,
for a million dollar picks,
we did Chargers first half,
Chargers game.
Smart.
Plus 130.
We're able to take it off
in like 45 minutes
and replace it with another game
because it was just,
you could just tell right away.
I think Carolina might be
the worst team in any sport
if the White Sox didn't exist. Wow. I think it's that bad. The White Sox be the worst team in any sport if the White Sox didn't exist.
Wow.
I think it's that bad.
The White Sox are the worst,
but at least the White Sox have like a farm system
and I guess some things they could point to.
If you're the Panthers, what are you pointing to?
Yeah, it's like if you would,
the White Sox still have a couple,
it's like you wouldn't bench every White Sox starting pitcher,
but Bryce Young has to sit
because he just kills
their offense. No chance at all.
Well, they can't block for him
combined with...
We've just seen this before with these young
QBs, but
I think
0-17 is
not crazy for them. I know
it won't happen because the season's too long
and they'll catch somebody in the wrong thing,
but they just don't have any talent.
And then Brown was their best defensive player.
He's out.
Yeah.
You know, they play the Giants in Germany,
October something.
Oh, you're right.
Early November.
Is it November?
Maybe it's November.
That's the one.
I could see them going goose egg,
both those teams until then.
That's going to be a treat.
We fucking stuck Germany with that one, huh?
Yeah, we should go to that game.
Fuck you guys.
I still remember 80 years ago.
Here's our responsible football game.
Okay, those are all the 0-2 teams.
Let's play.
Oh, two more games.
Just talk about quickly.
Vikings Niners.
Vikings 23, Niners 17.
The Vikes ended up with 407
yards and had no receivers
in the fourth quarter of the game. Everyone was out,
including Jefferson.
Their defense was great.
Sacked Purdy six times. He had a fumble.
No McCaffrey, obviously. San Francisco
hasn't won in Minnesota since 1992.
Did you know that? I had no idea
that this was like, they were talking about it
during the game. But the
big thing is just the Sam Darnold
renaissance. And I have
one of my best friends is a huge Vikings
fan. He mailed me the clip of Darnold
walking in the locker room after the game.
You know, like those Minnesota Vikings
Twitter feed. And the team is
just like, yeah! They fucking
love Sam Darnold. It's like, how did this happen?
This is a Darnold duping, though.
He did do this a few years ago.
You think it's a Darnold rope-a-dope?
It's a little bit of a Darnold duping here.
And I'm looking at their odds to make the playoffs.
We could jump on no for even.
We could do it.
We have a few dollars left.
It's even right now?
Yeah.
What if Justin Jefferson's out for a while?
I mean,
who's seventh is the problem?
Is it the Cardinals?
Well, it depends if we get...
If you go Seattle, just admit one of
the NFC East, Dallas, or Philly is going to be
the wild card. We're getting two from the West,
so we'd have to get two from the East,
one South,
and then...
Green Bay or Minnesota? You could still get San Francisco, Seattle, one South and then well
Green Bay or Minnesota
you could still get
San Francisco
Seattle
and I like Arizona
all the same
I like Arizona too
I'm with you
the other one was
Bucks Lions
so I stayed away
from this game
because I thought
the line was too high
yeah
went to seven
and
the Bucs
played a really good game
there last year
and I just,
something about it
scared me.
I wish I had that feeling
about some of the other games
I've been on.
But the Lions had
one touchdown
on seven red zone trips.
Goff had two horrible
old school Jared Goff picks.
They ran 83 plays,
which is like an incredible high amount.
How many times do you think
Goff passed in that game?
Do you know this?
I don't know.
How many Goff passes today?
What would you guess?
At 83 offensive plays?
It's high.
Was it 44?
He threw 55 passes today.
Wow.
Wow.
55 passes.
And watching the game, and we didn't even have the game on
for the first half. Cause I just thought, you know, and then when it became interesting,
it made a TV and, uh, it was just weird. It was like, they were airing it out. Like they were
down 20 and it was, you know, one score game for two hours. But I don't know what that team's doing.
They're built to just pound the ball, pound the ball, pound the ball, play action, hit like Laporte
as a witness protection. St. Brown, who was going for
$50 in some fantasy leagues, they really only have two
receivers, like Khalif Raymond's playing a bunch for them as their third receiver,
but I'm not panicking yet, but I do like it.
He's a little hurt, but Jamison Williams is good.
But yeah, we're missing the...
Oh, wow.
Look at Mount St. Brown
open over the middle
for 35 yards,
for 30 yards, right?
It seems like we don't
ever get there with Goff anymore,
even with the last game.
It's tough.
And they had to do
that crazy fake punt.
If that hadn't worked,
this might have been a blowout.
Maybe we just...
All the NFC South teams
just screw us all the time.
It's early. There's basically
no preseason and these teams have to round
in shape. I just don't know why they're not pounding the ball.
One thing I'll say with Tampa,
and we knew somebody stupid
was going to come out of that NFC South,
and I want your New Orleans scouting
report in one second, but
the fact that Godwin looks like he's
Chris Godwin from four years ago this season,
they just seem a little more dangerous
when they need a first down.
They need to go 70 yards.
I feel like they have more options this year
than they had last year.
And Baker's playing really well.
I wouldn't say he's a top 12 quarterback,
but he's probably above average now. Maybe. I mean, a lot of these teams, that's, you know, I wouldn't say he's a top 12 quarterback, but he's probably above average now.
Maybe.
I mean, a lot of these teams, that's all you need.
200 yards, one touchdown, one interception.
And the defense could do the rest.
But yeah, you're right with Godwin.
I kind of feel the same way I do about the Saints.
I don't know if you want to get to them now,
but they're playing with confidence, right?
Like Baker's playing with confidence.
Carr's playing with confidence. They talk about this's playing with confidence. Carr's playing with confidence.
They talk about this Kubiak.
Oh, he's with Kubiak.
Really?
He's been in the league for 100 years, Carr.
He really just needed, no,
it was just the right coordinator to get him going.
And they look super fast, the Saints.
They look sideline to sideline really fast.
I was singing songs about the Cowboys linebackers all week.
And then just like they have, talk about like a retread,
like they have a 2018 version of Alvin Kamara
just sprinting to the sideline
and getting around the corner.
What happened with that?
How did they rejuvenate Kamara?
I don't know, man.
My team goes back and forth.
We just go back and forth
between like being super prepared for a
game like we were for the browns and then just did we practice at all this week either that or
the saints are great which i didn't want to believe just yet so confession i did not watch
really any of this game because there were 10 early games and i knew for the podcast i knew
you were going to watch the whole game.
So I just decided to give you the car keys
for the Saints.
Wait a minute.
You put this on your,
you put, first of all,
I have a bone to pick.
You said this is a barely watchable,
but then you put it in your four screen for YouTube.
Well, I underrated the Saints
and I changed my mind.
Now there were too many games
and I was really,
I wanted to see
how Green Bay did with Malik Willis.
I wanted to watch the Jets-Titans game.
The Pat Seahawks was like a permanent one.
Lions, then the Ravens-Raiders
guy. I just never,
I just knew you were going to watch it for us. But then
the Saints had 28.
How many points did they have at halftime?
They had 35.
35.16. And Carr had need to watch. Yeah, 35 points at halftime.
And Carr had 11 completions.
So I'm going nuts about his relationship
with the coordinator and everything.
But they ran for 190.
Like, that was the difference.
It was just one of those games I got out of hand.
It's weird because the last home game this happened
was the playoff game against the Packers
where I sat on your couch.
And I don't know.
I did awful things.
Really, really bad.
But yeah. So I guess this is our thing, awful things. Really, really bad. But yeah.
So I guess this is our thing, Mike McCarthy.
We just get trounced at home.
This is fun.
People aren't afraid to come into your house anymore.
No.
There is some Clint Kubiak as the new hot offense coordinator buzz.
Great.
But unleashing whatever was there with the Saints.
If it's cool with everybody, I'm not going to trust it.
Because they killed the Panthers in week one,
and then they kind of just took you guys by surprise in week two.
But I need a little more evidence.
We've been down this road a bunch of times with Derek Carr.
I find it hard to believe in his early 30s,
all of a sudden he became this gunslinging leader
of a team that's going to score 500 points for the season.
I mean, talk about, they're minus 200
to make the playoffs right now.
What?
Plus 160 the other way.
We're going to have to bite on one of these
because we're already miserable about it.
Wait a second.
I love that Fando has these up these late.
I know, kudos to Fandle
so New Orleans
let's see
they have
home for Philly
at Atlanta
at KC
next three
they could be
two and three
in three weeks
don't you think
yeah
I was
I was gonna look at it
the other way
like alright
they definitely
they have Carolina again
they'll split with Tampa Panics in week four after Kirk Yeah, I was going to look at it the other way. They definitely have Carolina again.
They'll split with Tampa.
Panics in week four after Kirk officially loses his job after tomorrow night's game.
Did you watch Jets-Titans?
Because I happened to watch a bunch of that one.
Yeah, most of it.
The Titans side.
But the Jets side was interesting
because they were alternately not impressive at all.
But Rodgers made five old school Roger throw.
He still can work that sideline and throw these beautiful touch passes.
And that Wilson is not nearly as evolved as I thought he was going to be.
Right.
Brees Hall isn't like, you know, this amazing.
It's not like six yards of carry every time you hit the ball.
But, you know, they snuck that one out.
That was a really dangerous game.
There was a moment there during the one o'clock games
when it looked like the Pats were going to beat Seattle
and it looked like the Jets might go 0-2.
We're heading toward this Thursday game of the 2-0 Pats.
I don't know where we're going to see 0-2.
I love that.
That would have been great.
I still think you have a shot and we'll get to that.
But yeah, like Braylon Allen running the ball.
No one taking a chance from Brees Hall.
So yeah, he's spreading it out, Rodgers.
I think you're right.
I hate to give him credit.
He looked good, and he looked like a capable Jets quarterback.
So 24-17.
With that said, his body language in a couple moments in the first half looked like
he was ready to check out.
There was a terrible third
in one play where the guy got stuffed and Rodgers
was just doing the frozen
really, really guys?
There was a couple
shots of him sitting on the bench. It's like, what's
going on? Is he happy? Is he talking to anybody?
People get on Vrabel,
but I don't know that they would have been 2- If people get on Vrabel, but I don't know
that they would have been
2-0 the Titans with Vrabel,
but I don't think
they lose both those games.
I don't think so either.
Stupid team.
Pat Seahawks was the other one.
Very winnable game for the Pats.
Brissette
just seems like
if he was a starting pitcher,
he's got five innings in him.
And then it's like, oh, the top of the lineup's coming up.
And you're like, can we start warming up, dudes?
Because this guy's not getting through the lineup again.
It was a super winnable game.
The secondary was bad.
And that was basically the reason they lost
was they just had a huge breakdown
on that Metcalf touchdown.
Metcalf.
A couple PIs.
With all that said, I really felt like, Kyle, did we decide they should have
gone for that fourth and one in overtime?
We were kind of like, whatever they did, I was going to disagree with.
Yeah, they should have gone.
Kyle was just, let's pound them, let's go.
But once they punted, it just felt like they were going to lose.
Yeah, I think that's, look, that's a surrender index, right?
That's surrendering the overtime.
We're going to tie.
Why is a team like the Patriots out to tie?
Are they going to go 6-9-1 or 6-10-1?
That's going to make the difference?
Just go for it there.
Yeah.
Listen, I didn't say this in the moment.
In hindsight, it's 2020.
Sorry, no one was there.
With some time to marinate on it,
the move was to go for it.
Because if you get it,
then it's like, oh man,
then we fucking went for it.
And we got the fourth and one,
and we came down,
and it was like, ah, yeah, it's
a new Patriots team.
And instead they punted and the Seahawks scored and now we have no momentum, but I think they
should ask the defense like, Hey, how tired are you guys?
Like, I don't know.
We've been out here for four hours.
This sucks.
We're getting pounded.
Why don't you just go for the, just get the one yard.
Just go for it.
Please score.
Two things.
Gino once again was, was kind of sneaky really good
and came through.
He has a bunch of these come-from-behind touchdowns
in the fourth quarter, but I thought he was really good.
I did say to Kyle during that game,
and this was an in-the-moment thing,
it's like the Patriots are confident enough
that I think they should start thinking about Drake May
because Brissette's pretty limited.
You know, they've scored 20 points today.
They scored 16 points the other day.
He basically can't throw the ball downfield at all.
And I think if May had played in that game
with the fact that the O-line can block better than I thought
before the season, he might have been able to swing that.
I wouldn't play him this week on Thursday.
When's he coming in?
I was just going to say.
When do you put him in?
When do we see him?
The over-under is home against the Dolphins, October 6th.
Now, when we first sketched this out,
it was at the Jets that Thursday, so no.
But then they would have 10 days to prepare for at San Francisco week four.
No, don't put them in there. You don't want to do that.
Home for the Dolphins. Home for the Dolphins week five seems like it would be the move.
Yeah, that's fair.
I think if they're somehow 2-2, who knows.
I thought they were going to be awful. It's a really likable team.
They're fun to watch. The crowd
likes them.
The energy. They're all playing
hard. Good. I like this.
It's certainly better than
rooting for Carolina. I think your
playbook is a little limited too, though.
I don't know if Drake Maywood... It's because of our
quarterback. Is that why?
Bursette's a great guy.
It's just there's, you know, he can't do certain things.
He's not mobile.
All right.
We're going to take another break for the podcast.
And then I have one more game to play with you.
Then we'll keep going.
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All right, quick game.
I didn't tell you we're doing this.
Definitely or maybe.
Or definitely hype and maybe.
I like that more.
Definitely maybe.
So tell me definitely or maybe for either of these.
The chiefs. Are you going to show me definitely or maybe for either of these. The Chiefs three-peat.
Are you going to show me pictures of girls you've dated?
No.
No, this isn't like face smash.
I see.
Definitely maybe.
The Chiefs three-peat might actually be in trouble.
Oh, just maybe.
You can't say definitely, right?
Yeah.
There's a team to beat, Bill.
Yeah.
All right.
Now it's going to get harder.
Ooh.
Kyler Murray is back.
Definitely or maybe?
I'm leaning definitely.
I don't think that.
I'm giving him the definitely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I saw a lot of good things and maybe they just had their number
and they were going to crush him no matter what.
But he looked,
he looked,
if you ever liked Kyla Murray,
he looked every bit as good as that Kyla Murray you liked.
He,
Harrison,
McBride,
Dortch didn't have a good game today,
but he was good in week one.
Connor can run the ball.
There's a certain style and feel and pace
that seems like it makes sense for him
it seems like he's post knee surgery just seems a little more inclusive you know he was a little
withdrawn i think in the earlier kyler years but did not seem like that today or last week and they
almost beat buffalo last week too all the memes added up and he's like f these people show like a
baby carrying a loaf of bread and saying, there's Kyler
in preseason. Yeah.
I think he's finally figured it out.
It's an adventure story. Good team.
Definitely maybe.
New Orleans has an
elite offense.
Oh, I have to just say maybe.
Okay. I can't say
definitely. They were scary today, though.
I'm
hoping it was just something that just got out of hand
and we'll never look back
definitely
maybe
Justin Tucker isn't a top four
kicker anymore
I'm going to say definitely
as far as like
if I bet on him and the confidence
I don't know maybe you could show me a stat that
says that he is but who would you rather
have?
Let's go over the four.
So I made a list.
Aubrey, Aubrey might be the greatest kicker of all time.
Thank you.
Dicker on the chargers.
Boswell's lights out now.
The guy we just saw.
And Fairbairn on the Texans.
Those four are just clearly better than him at this point.
And then I'd probably put Harrison Bucker over him too.
So I don't know if he's top five anymore.
I mean, he's older.
He's the greatest kicker of all time.
Yeah, always best song.
Opera singer.
I would rather have those five guys for this season.
Do you have a theory why field goals are so easy now?
I don't.
I don't know.
Do we need to change the rules to make them harder?
Remember in the old days,
you could kind of jump over the center
as they snapped it and jump on your guys' back?
Maybe we need to bring some of that stuff back.
What's fun about watching these dudes
make like 54 yarders right down the post?
Oh, hit the camera.
Wow.
It's like, I don't care.
That camera is on the other side,
so don't blame our cameras for that going in.
Don't you dare do that.
Caleb Williams is the best, Bill.
He didn't even move his legs.
Just throwing his whole arm.
How do the Texans win when this guy put up 40, 40 touchdowns, 40 points.
No, 40 yards.
He has 40 yards.
A 40 yard.
Oh, okay.
This guy is so much better than he was last week.
13 points.
He's like dying to not play anymore.
Please get me off this field.
Get every play.
Oh, my God.
Maybe put the old goalposts in just to freak the kickers out
the ones that look like H's maybe that's a change
switch that up maybe we move the
goalposts like slightly closer together moving them in like
arena football yeah
definitely maybe Sam Darnold is about to be redeemed
no
you're like out you're neither definitely nor maybe.
I might say definitely not.
Really?
All right, definitely not.
That's a good third one for this.
Definitely maybe.
Now that we've seen it in action in games,
Joe Burrow's hair looks kind of cool.
Definitely.
I like it too.
Yeah, it looks good
it's really nice
I'd kill for it
definitely Joe
he's just very cool
I'm in
Joe Burrow took a lot of shit
but it fucking looks cool
I gotta hand it to him
yeah
he looks like he's like
the villain in a
Netflix series
set in the
in South Carolina
it's like terrorizing
teenagers
is he the villain?
Is he Hollywood Hulk?
Or maybe he's the star.
Does he turn that black?
Yeah.
Definitely maybe or definitely not.
Pittsburgh's going to go 10-7 or 11-6 somehow.
Well, all right.
I'm meant to look at the quarterbacks they face
because there's going to be some games
where they're going to have to score 20 points, right?
Aren't they going to have to at some point?
Well, but don't you feel like they told Fields,
look,
we're going to win these first two games. Don't
throw the ball over the middle. Don't
do anything stupid. Don't
try to run for two extra yards.
We don't want you to fumble. We don't want you to throw
the ball to the other team.
We just need 13 points.
Week three, we're going to unleash you.
Just trust us.
Sure.
Feels like that's the plan.
I think that's right.
All right, but I'm looking at the quarterbacks.
So these are the good-ish quarterbacks I'll face.
Herbert, Dak, Rogers, Lamar, Burrow.
I mean,
this could be losses, right?
Hurts,
again Lamar,
again Burrow,
and Mahomes.
Ten and seven.
They could do ten and seven.
The rest are bad.
They started out the season
with two road games
and went two and oh.
It's pretty good.
Yeah.
I feel good about that pick that I was ready to,
that you give me a mulligan on after we did the over under pod.
And I was like,
if I could switch one thing,
I would switch Buffalo and Pittsburgh,
but we'd said no.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um,
definitely maybe two or two or should retire.
You know,
I thought about this.
There's no way to govern this, obviously. No. Cause we, I thought about this. There's no way
to govern this,
obviously.
No.
Because we,
I taped something
at the top on Thursday
where it's like,
I don't know what the number is
for these dudes to retire.
And then I watched
boxing,
flew home from Boston
on Saturday night
and I watched boxing
and UFC
on JetBlue.
And I'm just thinking like,
these guys are just
all getting the
crap kicked out of them.
And then they get up and they go to the next fight. Like, who are we to tell Tua?
Oh, I, I, I'm a complete hypocrite. And for that very reason, like I see Tua with the fencing arm
and I'm like, Oh no, let's not do that anymore. But then I'm like, this guy gets knocked out.
I'm like, Oh man, he should fight John Jones next. Like, doesn't matter. He's like,
he can't get out of the octagon. He can't figure out where the door is.
If I was,
if I was to his like roommate in college,
I'd be like,
yo dude,
like,
what are you doing?
How much money can you make if you just retire now?
But,
um,
well,
there's just some guys that,
you know,
it's going to,
you know,
it's going to be problematic.
And you said it,
you're like,
it was kind of a miracle that they kept them upright last year.
Yeah.
They,
they had him in bubble wrap last year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And even, like, that play, like, he kind of forgot the script
that he wasn't supposed to do that.
He ran into Hamlin's bicep, basically.
You know?
Yeah.
It wasn't helmet to helmet.
It wasn't anything.
And it left him, yeah.
Would you think that was a playoff team either way?
The Dolphins were?
No, did you?
After watching those first two weeks, I didn't think
they were one of the seven best AFC teams
anyway, so I don't know if it's going to make a
difference. Yeah, maybe not.
What is that number now?
They probably don't even have that on
FanDuel, right?
They do. Oh, man.
You're going to love this.
Yes, it's plus 1.8.
I should have had you guess. You want to guess?
Did you hear it?
I would have said like minus 300.
No. Wow.
Jump on there. No is
minus 144.
Oof. So they must think he's coming
back in like two weeks.
That's another
team. They're like the Rams. It's like two more injuries and that whole team falls weeks. Yeah, but so what? That's another team. They're like the Rams.
It's like two more injuries
and that whole team falls apart.
Yeah.
A couple other random things
before we get to guest lines.
Rodgers, once again,
I don't even think he threw for 200 yards today.
So his 300-yard streak continues.
It's been since week 13, December 19, 2021.
NFC South, four wins.
I'm worried about our bet.
I'm not worried about my Aiden Hutchinson sack title bet.
Really good.
What do you have?
11-1.
That might pay for all my futures.
We did our futures draft for the year.
It's 11-1.
He's got to be leading by like three sacks.
He was excellent.
And he kept everybody in the, he kept that team in the game is the problem. Yeah. I think Pickens is on pace to have an entire alternate universe fantasy season of plays that didn't count or pass interference yards where it's like, it's, he's basically like Megatron in 2009. He like 1200 yards and 10 touchdowns just called back or they didn't exist or they happened over here.
Somehow he's always in those.
Do you think he goes to the locker room
and yells at the guys, the offensive linemen who held?
He's like, you're making me look stupid out there.
I'm dancing and everyone's like,
well, you don't have to dance.
Yes, I do have to dance.
What do you mean?
They should almost put a transmitter in his helmet
just like so he doesn't start his dancing stuff.
Yeah. Or a big yellow flag on the field could be an alert too.
Here's my next question. Have we pivoted back to quarterbacks not mattering in fantasy football?
Remember that was always the thing in the 90s, 2000s, most of the 2010s. And then all of a sudden when the touchdowns in the yards really went up,
then it was like, well, I'm not going to win unless I get one of these top guys
or unless I spend money and I possibly have three guys that I can mix and match.
And now it's like, I don't know.
Who are you excited about?
Are you fired up to have CJ Stroud?
Yeah. Are you fired up to have CJ Stroud? Yeah.
Are you fired up to have Josh Allen?
He threw for like 120 yards that week.
Like Mahomes?
Like it's the lead for,
and a lot of people are talking about
this became a big topic.
It felt like over the last couple of days
about the passing stats going way down,
how there's way more running,
what the reasons are.
It's pretty interesting
about how the defenses are getting just faster and sleeker
and they're doing the two safeties way back.
So now it actually just makes more sense to run and make the defense pull people up.
So then there's just more running plays.
And then Goff throws for 55 times.
So I don't even know.
I talked to the parlay kid.
You know him well from Against All Odds.
He loves parlaying over one and a half
touchdown passes. And he'll
put like four together. I was like, you have to stop
with that bet. You have to.
He won 33 touchdown passes
last Sunday. That's
disgusting.
You're not going to get there anymore.
Allen didn't get there. Obviously, Tua didn't get there
from that first night.
How that game didn't go over was another thing.
You pointed out, for fantasy-wise,
on our
kick-out league,
Baker Mayfield, Daniel
Jones, whatever, Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr,
Geno Smith, they're all available.
All available.
Baker Mayfield's still available?
Four of those guys would be
as good as anybody
that's presented
yeah you look
like
Josh Allen
Mahomes
Lamar
Hurts
Jaden Daniels
I guess Kyler
was doing pretty well
but even his stats
weren't great last week
yeah
it's Gino Smith
it's Carr
it's all the weird ones
that you would never
think of in the beginning
of the year
we're in a weird fantasy reckoning.
How are you feeling about your team before we go to Guest Alliance?
I don't know.
I'm fine, I guess.
And then if they're, well, I mean, we're going to go one and two
after the Ravens, and then it's going to be problems.
Then Jerry's going to have to sell the team.
Then there's going to be talk about McCarthy leaving
and all that other stuff
and Zimmer sucking.
What was your worst bet today?
Worst bet?
Okay, let me see.
I'm going to look it up for the YouTubers.
No, don't give me Hunter Biden's bet.
Give me your bets.
Did you and Hunter do a parlay together?
Dallas plus three and a half
on a lot of like three team teasers, which I know you're not
supposed to still do. I had your dumb team
thanks to Raheem under 17 and a half.
That didn't work out.
I don't know.
That was bad. What was your worst one?
You couldn't have done great.
My worst one was
on the plane
yesterday.
Just sitting there for 20 minutes waiting for a takeoff and remembered that, oh, I only have FanDuel for a little bit longer before we get in here. I should, four, five bets. That's it. I'm doing like, oh, Sugar Sean.
Let me put him with freaking the Dallas Moneyline.
I mean, I just ripped off like three or four of the dumbest bets ever.
And I put no thought in them at all because I wanted to get it done before we took off.
Yeah.
I wanted to do that.
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Ooh, do you think they're in cahoots
with the airlines?
They're like, ah, sorry, we're delayed.
We have a live fish on this jet blue.
Simmons is in row five.
Mechanical issues.
Yeah, Bill Simmons.
I bet on Brian Ortega because my son told me he really liked Ortega.
I'm like, all right, I'll throw him in with the Cardinals.
Yeah.
That didn't work.
I had, oh, another one.
I did Canelo under eight and a half for that fight.
He hit the guy.
Somehow I was on JetBlue and I had UFC and I had
two iPads. I had UFC on one iPad and I had the Canelo, that whole fucking other one.
Really? Wow.
And the Wi-Fi worked pretty much well enough. But the Canelo one, he's just throwing bombs at this
guy for round after round.
And the guy goes down in the third.
He goes down in the seventh.
But somehow he just makes it.
You look at what we could have made betting him to win by decision over the last eight fights.
And you'll never stop vomiting.
Yeah, it's disgusting.
And you could have gotten three to one odds on it.
Yeah, but here's the thing. When these guys add the weight and they go up,
these knockout guys who they're fighting 20 pounds heavier
than they used to fight,
the punching power doesn't seem like it comes with them.
The only one I remember is Hearns.
Like Hearns was like the only one
who was able to put on weight and keep the power.
I guess Holyfield did too when he got to heavyweight.
I know.
I gained a lot of weight.
I have no power.
So I think you're right.
We're rambling.
So that means we're going to take a break and get to guess the lines.
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All right, coming back, Guest Alliance, week three.
Did you beat me last week too?
We tied.
We did.
We tied.
10-10.
I'm going to beat you.
I'm up 1-0-1.
By the way, I should mention, here are the 2-0 teams. 10-10. I'm going to beat you. I'm up 1-0-1. By the way, I should mention, here are the
2-0 teams.
Buffalo, Pittsburgh,
Chargers, KC,
Houston,
Minnesota, New Orleans,
Tampa, Seattle.
So we got 8 plus Philly
tomorrow, potentially.
And which one do we say
we would bet against
to make the playoffs?
The Saints?
I'd really need to look
at that this week.
Because one of these teams
would be like,
oh, remember when the Saints
started out 2-0
and then they finished
6-11 and Dennis Allen
got fired?
I'm still not...
I know, but we kind of
have to do it now, right?
Yeah.
Week three.
The Jets are home.
They're playing the Patriots of New England.
This is, by the way, I think our only night game this year.
How the mighty have fallen.
That's right.
Yeah.
This is it.
Enjoy it.
I have the Jets by five and a half.
You should try to pick this exactly because I sure as hell did. Five and a half? Six and a half. You should try to pick this exactly because I sure as hell did.
Five and a half?
Six and a half.
You picked it exactly?
I did, yeah.
The rest, eh.
That's fair.
Yeah, that's a whiff high.
You think so?
Yeah.
Yeah, the Jets.
Last week, they got killed by the Niners,
who then just lost to the Vikings.
This week, they barely beat the Titans,
even though Will Levis,
we were joking earlier that it seemed like if a quarterback did have drinks before a game,
this is what it would look like.
So I don't know why they'd suddenly be
almost seven points against the Pats
who beat the Bengals and then almost beat the Seahawks
I guess
first home game right I guess the place
will be pretty pumped for Aaron
Rogers to make it to the distance
have you been to a Jets game is it a place
that gets really pumped I would
say it goes the other way
it gets more surly
that's what I mean by pump.
That's how we say in New York, pump.
You know, this is
going to be interesting for him.
He's going to have his family there. Oh, no, wait.
His family doesn't talk to him.
It's going to be a good game.
I think you could upset him.
Kyle was so happy today that I was rooting for the Pats.
Even though I have
five futures
against them. This has come to.
Sunday's marquee game.
Sunday's
marquee game.
It's really probably the Eagles and the
Saints if it's two 2-0 teams, but we're
not going to do that. We're going to go Cowboys
Ravens because
if the Cowboys coming off just getting
lambasted by the Saints at home. Yeah. I wish Baltimore had won. And you have the 0-2 Ravens
somehow playing a must-win game in week three. Yeah. Right? This is, I think,
got to think at least for the division, 0-3, pretty hard to bounce back and win.
I put this line low, even though it's in Dallas.
I have Dallas by one and a half.
Oh, you got it exactly.
I said two.
Thought we'd get the nudge there.
Yeah, you don't want to say must win, right?
I think it is.
Three losses would be something.
Because we did this earlier,
but the next two games after this are hard for them.
They're home for Buffalo and at Cincy.
They basically have to go two and one, right?
Two and one out of those three, yeah.
The problem for them is even when they have a lead,
I feel like the other team can throw the ball on them
and come back, which makes it an unusual Baltimore. Derek Henry
used to be the greatest clock
killer of all time. What
happened? He still
looks good. Yeah. I don't know
what happened. Watchables.
It's a pretty good week next week. I got
to say, I thought I had four
watchables and I
had three
fairly watchables. They relieved us and I know I complained about and you and I had three fairly watchables. Well, they relieved us
and I know I complain about it
and you and I and maybe three others
only care, but when they had ten games
early on and six came down
to the wire, I was like, screw these guys.
Scott Hansen had an aneurysm.
Just give us
eight and five or eight and four.
Stop it already. And then you got three games
in the afternoon. Two aren't competitive within like eight minutes and four. Stop it already. And then you got three games in the afternoon.
Two aren't competitive within like eight minutes.
Enough.
Spread it out.
Yeah, there was one stretch in the early games
where it felt like in five games at the same time,
there were just like pivotal two-minute stretches
and they were all overlapping with each other.
And you're just like, wait, what?
Right.
Watchables.
So,
I don't think this is going to be
an aesthetically pleasing game,
but I can't wait to watch it.
Steelers-Chargers in Pittsburgh.
Two 2-0 teams.
Two similar teams.
Trying not to do too much on offense.
On defense,
trying to win games,
not make mistakes.
Team that obviously like built around the coach,
coach's personality.
Uh,
there's nobody believes in us on both sides.
Two teams that I backed before the year as playoff teams.
And I'm interested to see what happens in this.
I think the chargers might have a slightly higher upside than the Steelers
because of the
quarterback. Because the Pittsburgh
quarterback, we still haven't really seen him have
to make a play yet when
it actually matters.
They've always had the lead.
I have Steelers minus three.
Alright.
I
pussed out on this. I thought about it for
a long time and I'm like, I can't.
I don't know who's going to be favored.
So I gave it the 9-9 round.
You can't respect me as a judge.
I made it a pick'em.
And you're right.
It's a long way of saying you're right.
It's a one.
Oh, no, we're both right.
It's one and a half.
Oh, we're both right?
Yeah.
You did a pick'em?
Fuck's wrong with you.
I shouldn't do that, right?
We've never had pick-ems.
I know.
But they just never happen.
The Cardinals-Rams game today was a pick-em.
Like heading into kickoff, which I was like,
that never seems to happen.
I'm trying to beat you.
I'm not beating the Vegas.
I know I can't do that.
Well, so in the old days,
minus three meant
it was minus three for the home field
advantage. That has now dropped over the years
to now minus one and a half as the home field
advantage. So they're basically saying those teams are
exactly even. Next watchable
is Texans-Vikings in Houston.
Although the Texans were not watchable
today. Hopefully this game won't take four
hours.
I'm sorry. This is in Minnesota, not
in Houston. My bad.
So
I have Houston favored.
I had it as a two
and a half before
the game tonight, and I think I'm just going to keep
it there. I have Houston by two and a half
in Minnesota. No, move it lower. Move it lower.
I had two and it's three and a half.
You get it. Three and a half. You get it.
Three and a half?
Hmm.
Maybe the
Sam Darnold duping
hasn't hit Fandle yet.
Well, if Jefferson
doesn't play,
you know,
Texans are probably
a good
I think he said
he doesn't
think he's going to
miss time.
Can we,
I want to give the, throw the NFL a bone.
They still don't know how to schedule games, but the fact that they came out with the A.J. Brown news
before kickoff today
means that they're sort of looking out for fantasy owners
because that McCaffrey thing was so bad last week
and it came down like an hour before the game
when nobody can make moves.
But they didn't have to say if A.J.
Brown was playing Monday night, Sunday at 1240, and they did. Good job by you. Do you think the
NFL should run commercials congratulating themselves? The NFL, we finally care about our
fans. It's the players we don't care about. The NFL, caring about our fans since one week ago.
Yeah, that is a good point.
They definitely did that for fantasy.
Because if you started A.J. Brown, it's just an out-and-out catastrophe.
Next one, Eagles at the Saints.
This is arguably the best game of the week if the Saints are good.
I have the Eagles favorite in this game, so I'm going to say Eagles by two and a half.
I think you're going to beat me this week.
You got it exactly. I thought it would be one.
I guess I did like the Saints more
than that.
I usually have good week threes.
You're up four to two.
You know, everyone
in New Orleans hated Carr. I wonder if they
flipped on that now because the Saints are fun.
Coming back, two big wins.
I wonder if they'll have an awesome crowd for this game.
Awesome old-school Saints crowd.
This feels like a gambling stay away.
They were home against Carolina, right?
Yeah, this is their second home game.
Yeah.
This could be a good one.
Last one, Lions-Cardinals.
This is also in Arizona.
This is a game that could have been like Lions minus six in the look-ahead line,
but now heading into week three, I don't see how it's higher than three and a half.
So I'm going to say Lions three and a half.
Get this one too. I said two.
That's how much I like Arizona. It's three.
Yeah.
They're going to make you bet it off the three.
I think people are still going to look at Arizona
if they didn't see the games and say
they're one and one and the only reason they beat the Rams
is because all the guys in the Rams got hurt.
But Arizona has a good offense.
And I regret not taking the million dollar picks this week.
Can your guy Hutch contain little Kyle Amari?
Can he get him?
Yeah, I want him to.
Can he clinch the sack?
Let's clinch the sack record in September.
Fairly watchables.
Colts-Bears.
Not quite bad enough to be a poop-fecta game,
but I definitely don't want to watch this.
It's in Indianapolis.
Colts by two and a half?
Oh, come on.
I hope people are seeing this on YouTube,
how you're sauntering into the screen.
Yeah, it's two and a half.
What are you looking at?
Well, I thought about changing my mind to three,
but I kept it where it was.
I said two.
Two and a half it is.
I don't think I would put money on the Colts again
anytime soon.
No. So you're calling this
a stay away, right? Because you can't
go bears.
I really like Steichen. I thought he did some weird
shit today.
First of all, he's in charge
of the other coaches, right? So you could take Gus
Bradley and be like, yo,
what if we just move
all our guys up
and make Malik Wallace
try to throw deep?
But I thought
there was some game management stuff
that I just didn't agree with.
Seahawks in Seattle
playing the Dolphins,
which I assume
no Tua for that game, correct?
I thought that's going to
reflect the line.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
He's not going to clear him
now one week later, right?
I'm going to say Seahawks by five.
All right.
You edged me out again.
I said four and a half.
It's six and a half.
Oof.
Pretty high.
I'm just so...
I just can't guess more.
I see, oh, this should be five in the old days,
but nobody wins by five anymore,
so they'll make it four, right?
Well, five becomes the appetizer,
and then it eventually lands at six or four.
Right.
Or four and a half.
Do we have to change the Vegas zone?
To what?
Like three and a half to four and a half or something?
No, it's four and a half, five, five and a half,
because those are spreads that never happened
right i'm just thinking the way they now now you know we don't see a lot of nine 11 point
lines everything seems to be smaller now one seahawks now that guy murphy is really good for
them yeah i remember that rookie nose tackle he was wreaking havoc in the game today. That was a really nice pick.
49ers at the Rams is the last one.
And it's a borderline poop fact that if Cup doesn't play,
because I don't know who's going to be catching balls for the Rams,
but I have the 49ers by three and a half.
Get me again.
I had three.
It's seven. Let me check this.
So they're saying Cupupps not playing then
this ain't nobody's playing
yeah it's seven
I mean shit at that point
don't play Stafford
right
right
just give them the week off
just punt on the game
man that's gonna be
a grim Rams game
you're gonna have
40,000 honors fans there
all the Rams who have tickets aren't gonna wanna go yikes man, that's going to be a grim Rams game. You're going to have 40,000 honors fans there.
All the Rams who have tickets aren't going to want to go.
Yikes.
You love it.
You love that teaser game.
You love it.
I do.
I'm probably going to tease that one.
It was one of those pretty games that make you go, huh?
Hmm.
This is what the pretty critics have been talking about okay poop fact uh bucks home for the broncos wow the bucks could be three now
yep i have the bucks by uh six and a half. Well, what do you know?
You got it exactly right again.
I said seven.
I'm on fire.
I'm glad we're catching this on YouTube.
Yeah, yeah.
We should do a headline like,
Guy Catches Fire Picking Games.
Something like that.
Yeah, you're on fire.
I'm trying to think of a world-renowned cheater
who would be on fire,
but it escapes me right now.
This is always what happens.
You always accuse me in week three of cheating.
Bill Belichick's on fire.
Put those cameras away.
Packers at the Titans.
The Malik Willis revenge game.
Malik Willis back to make the Titans pay.
It's like kill Bill three.
I don't see how the Titans can ever be favored against anyone.
And I'm going to just say Packers by one.
Oh,
I'm going to get one.
I'm going to get one.
I said,
Tennessee by one.
Tennessee is favored by two and a half.
So go ahead and put Malik on a teaser,
getting eight and a half.
Go get it.
It'd be funny if they asked the coach of the Titans during the week.
What's the guy's name?
Brian Callahan?
Yeah.
From Callahan Auto Parts.
Does it help you having had Malik here for the last couple years, to prepare for this game?
And normally the coach is like, well, you know, he's a competitor.
But if he was just like, yeah, I mean, he's terrible.
We watch it day after day after day.
I think I can't make a throw.
I can't wait to stack the line.
We're just going to destroy him.
What the fuck are you doings have to be close by now between Levis and Malik. Coach, can we see your what the fuck are you doing have to be close by now between Levis and Malik
coach can we see your what the fuck are you
doing rating system
well I have 11 for Will
this year and 7 for Malik
even though I never played
put your face in your hands more often the last two
years
Browns home for the Giants
Browns could be two and one.
I mean, that was one of your things with them, right?
You like their schedule.
Yeah.
I didn't mind them, especially here.
I'm going to say Browns by six and a half.
You're such a dirtbag, man.
You got it exactly.
I don't even know why I care anymore.
It's out of reach.
Six and a half is the number.
I said five.
Yeah.
Sometimes true greatness can happen, even
on a YouTube live stream.
Is this going to be... Well, I don't
think it would be an overreaction,
but whichever quarterback comes up
short here,
that could be it.
I thought you were going to say whoever goes up
3-0, the game is over.
Oh, well, that too. Yeah. If the Giants can just go up 3-0, the game is over. Oh, well, that too. Yeah.
But if the Giants can just go up 3-0, it's done.
If they're 0-3 with dimes, and Cleveland can make them look bad,
but if they're 0-3, and if Watson doesn't show up here,
there's going to be a suspicious investigation by midweek.
Cleveland's pass rush was very good today,
but that's not why Jacksonville sucked.
They sucked because they suck.
Raiders home for the Panthers.
So I thought about this.
I don't know how the Panthers are getting less than seven points
against anyone in the league that's not the Giants at this point.
Because I was trying to think,
like, if they play Washington,
I just don't see,
especially on the road.
So I have Raiders by seven.
You're going to set a record
for how many you got exactly.
Did I hit that one?
Yeah.
Let me count how many you got,
because you won the week.
But one, two.
I'm doing like the Michael Jordan
shrug at magic.
Three, four, five.
Marv Albert.
Hey.
Five exact picks.
Six exact picks.
It's crazy.
I didn't ask for these powers.
What could happen when you're staring right at the FanDuel homepage?
It's amazing, the results.
Sunday night, Chiefs-Falconscons somehow we get the Falcons again
yeah
so I guess Chiefs by three and a half
my guess is if the Falcons suck tomorrow
this game's in Atlanta by the way if the Falcons
suck tomorrow this goes up but three and a half seem fair would you have this iscons suck tomorrow, this goes up. But three and a half seemed fair.
What'd you have?
This is Vegas, so, and I had it at four.
It's four and a half.
But yeah, I mean, really, we have to see if Kirk Cousins can move.
I mean, Joe House made a compelling case about breaking down his various different types of passes with Kirk Cousins last week.
Well, they had all these stats about how he used to run play action
and just all the different ways that
they basically made sure he didn't move.
Yep. Play action was a big one.
Not great.
Well, Monday
night is a
don't get divorced night. For some reason,
there's two games.
I don't know why they
decided to do this. I think I like it for the
most part.
Bills-Jaguars is the first
game. That's in Buffalo.
I'm going to not allow myself
to bet on this game, but I have the
Bills by four and a half.
I had it too.
It's five and a half. I have four and a half also.
Isn't the
the second one
the later one
supposed to be the
better one
or no
there's ones at
730
ones at 815
kickoff
Jacksonville
Buffalo's
730
Washington
I mean I would argue
they would think
they before the year
they probably thought
both of these games
were good
because the other one
Cincinnati
Washington with Jaden Daniels against Burrow,
LSU against LSU.
Right.
If you had just toughed it out at ESPN, you would be calling one of these games.
Whichever the lesser.
If you just had toughed it out for nine more years.
Yeah.
What's wrong with you?
I would have loved that.
I would have loved calling the NBA.
So short-sighted.
Bengals minus five and a half was my last one.
That's what I got too.
Against Washington.
Seven and a half.
They kind of have to win that game.
They kind of have to win it.
That feels like the Houston game today
that it's just going to be in everybody's
I got to make my money back tease.
That's why I stayed away from Houston tonight
because I was like, this seems too fishy.
And as it turned out, they almost didn't get it anyway.
All right, so I won week three.
Oh yeah, you crushed me.
Yeah, Cincinnati.
I have Washington as my best bet.
Probably as lucky as I can get on that
because Giants kicker doesn't go out
they win by default right
so but I might
I'm going to take back all my Jaden Daniels
praise for now maybe it could be good but
I mean he looks like
he looks like Michael Jackson
the Billy Jean guy I didn't realize how thin he is
just running around back there
really skinny
crazy crazy stupid skinny I didn't realize how thin he is. Just running around back there. Really skinny.
Yeah.
Like crazy, crazy, stupid skinny.
I don't, after watching him take some of these hits,
he's somebody that doesn't seem like he's built for a 17-game season playing the way he's playing.
That one hit he took, it looked like he was going to be done for four months.
Yeah.
It sucks that we're forced to watch football differently now,
but you have to care about these guys.
You just do.
Well, meanwhile, Josh Allen's like LeBron.
I don't even know what scenario he would even get hurt.
We always said the joke about LeBron,
his leg would come off and he would just pick it up
and go get it and put it back on.
I don't see a lot of Josh Allen like,
oh man, what a hit.
He's always doling out the hit.
Yep. There you go, Bills fans.
Simmons jinxed you.
Josh Allen comes up next week.
I like the Bills fans. Monday night.
Bills fans are cool. They did a good thing with Tua this week.
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Okay, so my kids on this travel baseball team,
which is, it's brutal, travel baseball,
because you do travel.
You go an hour and 15 minutes,
and they make sure you're never closer than that.
And like I said, when you drive out, you pass a thousand diamonds, but it doesn't matter. You're
playing on the one that's an hour and 15 or an hour and 45. So when you get these tournaments,
they're all Saturday and Sunday. And you get the schedule on Thursday and you just don't want to
get stuck with the 8 a.m. You don't want the 6 p.m. game either, but you don't want, you know, and you're waiting for the results like it's from your cardiologist or something.
And of course, we get the Saturday 8 a.m. game in Irvine,
which means practice is at 7, which means we have to leave the house before 6,
which means we have to wake up closer to 5 a.m. on Saturday to get to kids travel baseball.
There's nothing worse.
I'm getting PTSD just listening to
this. Just backtrack. Okay. Hour here. Hour. Okay. Good. All right. Five o'clock. It's dark
for most of the ride. Great. So we do it. The two older boys want no part of it. So it's me,
my wife and Harrison, a 10 year old. Oh, you double parented it?
Yeah. Yeah. I have to do the Saturday because I'm not around for the Sunday. I'm an absent
parent for Sunday because they always
she didn't say you take them on Saturday
and I'll take them Sunday well I guess yes
you're right she's I have to give
her credit I guess I should give her credit more
yeah parenting by her yeah
we get there we spend all day
we win both we're in the
semifinals so we have to come back Sunday so now
we're driving back
it's about two o'clock
and like, all right, we haven't had lunch. Um, and, uh, like, where do we want to go?
And so she's looking at places like, oh, there's an umami burger. And we had just made a list of
the restaurants. We hate that closed by us. Umami burger. And I don't get anything for this. I
promise. I love umami burger and it's gone.
I'm like, that's great. And then she says to Harrison, like, oh, there's also a Denny's,
the fricking Denny's a mile away also went away. So she, he's like, oh, let's go to Denny's. Yeah. Let's go to Denny's. I'm like, yeah, I don't want to go. I don't want to go to Denny's. I don't
want to go. So I'm driving and, and my wife's like, well, do you want to put Denny's into ways?
I'm like, no, I'm not putting, I put Umami Burger into Waze.
I want to eat that.
And she's like, oh, all right.
I'm like, these kids, they get to make the call for where you eat all the time.
I'm like, we woke up at 5.15.
I want to pick lunch, you know, like a big fat baby.
I'm like, I want my lunch.
You can get your lunch.
So we go to Umami Burger and he has a burger and he loves it.
I was like, will you say this is the best
burger you ever had? It makes for a good story on Parent Corner. He's like, no, I won't say that.
It's not true. So anyway, it wasn't the best burger we ever had, but it's good. But my point
is parents have to take back our eating decisions. We let our kids bulldoze us for the basic reason
that we have fewer meals remaining, we have to pick it.
And by the way, you look at me,
I'm not, you know,
I'm definitely getting whatever meal I want overall.
So you can't feel too bad.
But do you agree with me?
We let the kids decide too much,
even though it's chicken, burgers, and pizza all the time.
And we just rotate.
Parents need to pick the meals.
I think you make some great points. Thank you. Parents need to take
back the head coaching. For meals. This is, this is like, no, I think for a lot of different things.
It's a lot like you're asking like an eight-year-old, what do you want to do today? And
it's like, maybe you should make the schedule. You're the adult. Tell them what to do. I always
feel this way. Like, uh, you know, you go to like, uh, like some
sports bar and they have like 130 things on the menu and like 40 beers on taps. And it's like,
why can't you make, just have like some good stuff and you make the decision for me. What are your
three best things? Right. I don't want all this power. Like we do the same thing with eight year
olds and 10 year olds. Of course-year-old is going to say,
let's go to Denny's.
Yeah. The ten-year-old should have no say
anyway, especially
when you're leaving at five in the morning
to get your ten-year-old wherever they need to.
I had so many different possible
parent corners, but I think all of them
would get me in trouble.
They're nothing about a mommy burger. All right, here's one. I had so many different possible parent corners, but I think all of them would get me in trouble. Really?
They're nothing about a mommy burger.
So, all right, here's one.
So, I do like a mommy burger.
I thought that was a good call.
I mean, the most exciting thing was Fogo de Chow
reaching out to us after we mentioned them.
Oh, they did, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What does that mean?
We don't want anything from Fogo de Chow either.
We just want all to be the liability if Brad dies at Fogo to chow.
We don't want to be held responsible.
So, you know, when your kids, like, as they're growing up, they're on your apps.
You know, like they're on your Uber potentially.
They're on your Postmates. They're on your Postmates.
They're on Caviar, whatever it is.
They're tied to there because they're not old enough to have their own thing.
So my daughter's in college and she's still on my Starbucks and my Postmates and my Caviar.
And the Starbucks, she's probably there twice a day. And for some reason, didn't get her on Starbucks.
And I'll just see these things and my Starbucks,
all of a sudden I have like $8 left on my Starbucks.
I'm like, what the fuck?
And she's just charging stuff constantly.
But when I was with her a couple of weeks ago,
we got Starbucks.
She's like, I'll order it.
So then they get the drink. She's like, I've got two drinks for Bill. And she's like, yeah, that got Starbucks. She's like, I'll order it. So then, you know, they get the drink. She's like,
I've got two drinks for bill. And she's like, yeah, that's me. And I'm like, so you're,
you're ordering the drinks and then you're saying you're bill, but it's you. And you're,
and she's like, yeah, you know, they all know me as bill here. And I'm like, this is insane.
So I made her get her on Starbucks, but then she also had, I think caviar and what's
caviar. What is that? Caviar is like a Postmates thing. There's a couple of different ones. Um,
but she, uh, it's, uh, isn't it like one of the DoorDash or caviar, whatever it's,
it's called caviar. Um, but anyway, you know, she's in college so right i'll get these things i'll get
these emails like your pizza formato's pizza is five minutes away it's like two in the morning
east coast i'm like oh my god her boyfriend must have wanted pizza so my big i finally was like
that's it you got to get your own stuff like just but tie it to your i i'm out i don't want to know
what you're ordering from caviar you're not on my starbucks anymore you don't get your own stuff. Like just tie it to your head. I'm out. I don't want to know what you're ordering from Caviar.
You're not on my Starbucks anymore.
You don't get to be Bill.
It's time.
You turn 19.
It's time for you to have your own name on the apps.
Please let me be Bill.
Please let me be Bill.
She's going to be Bill for five more minutes.
So anyway, she got her own Starbucks
and now she's forging her own identity
with her own names on the apps.
What does your wife think of that?
Because it is a good way to track them though.
I get that part of it.
Yeah, it is.
I did think of that part,
but it's way more annoying to see
that somebody ordered pizza or, you know,
whatever at two in the morning.
Yeah.
I don't know that.
Yeah, I guess so.
All right.
Well, they were both food related.
Both are parent corners. I wouldn't know that. Yeah, I guess so. All right. Well, they were both food related. Both are parent corners.
I want to go dark web
parent corner for some
of this stuff with both
of my kids at this point,
but pretty much all of it
would get me in trouble.
So I can't.
You're at the best
parent corner age.
That 10 to 11 is the best.
I have the 10 year old
that doesn't listen.
Yeah.
So it's fine.
He doesn't listen to me
and he doesn't listen
to the podcast.
So it's good.
It's funny that your wife is still putting in this kind of time with him when,
now that she knows from your oldest son, when he turns 17, he's going to have no time forever
again.
You know what? I hadn't thought of that.
You should mention that to her.
That's a good thing. I am going to mention it.
Like you're putting in all this time with Harrison. Archie was home for three months
and he said 10 words to you.
That's it. We didn't see him. Well, that might be why she's trying to do it.
You know, making up for lost time.
But I'm not doing every Rudy Tutti fresh and fruity.
What is the Denny's thing?
Or is that the Grand Slam?
Rudy Tutti fresh and fruity is IHOP?
You don't know.
You're on caviar.
When did caviar become controversial?
I don't know.
I'm just trying to make a Denny's show
if he had said IHOP instead of Denny's would you have been more excited
I think I would have a little bit
I don't like IHOP
we gotta take back our orders
you literally took back your order
with the bill and the Starbucks
if you had done like a Waffle House type of place
that would have been the win
yeah not a lot of those in Irvine
Denny's needs a rehab.
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Anything else before we go?
No, that's it.
Do you want to talk about
James Babydoll Dixon
robbing our cousin?
Oh, yeah.
You know,
I mean,
I'm wearing the Jimmy Kimmel live hat. They lost again. They finally got.
But why'd they lose? What was the reason this time? There's a specific reason.
Let's give some background. So John Oliver won, what, 63 years in a row? And then he wasn't eligible for the award, right?
So they changed it so that he was like like they moved him to the category he should
have been in which was like we're sat in our live and all these weekly shows opening the door for
our cousin to finally win an emmy right in comes john stewart who our cousin joked about during
his presentation today john stewart wins john stewart we love john stewart but one day a week
there's not four or five days a week.
And John Stewart wins.
Now,
John Stewart wins,
which he's the EP of.
Right.
Exactly.
But how did this John Stewart thing happen?
Is the smoking gun happy milking goats or whatever he was doing in upstate
New York.
He's on a farm.
He's just like making,
making healthy cheese.
Yeah.
He was, he was like churning butter, whatever he was doing.
More than enough money.
Didn't need any more money.
He was in the rooms.
Yeah, everything.
In comes Baby Doll.
And what does he say?
No, I can get you back on TV.
Comedy Central.
Baby Doll's like, they're going to give us the Daily Show, baby.
We're going to run this whole thing.
You only have to be on Monday nights.
We're going to make so much money, baby.
It's going to be amazing.
The election cycle. Yeah. John Stewartart he's wearing like an apron he's milking cows he's
milking goats he's got no wi-fi he's got no internet you have to go you have to go visit
him just have a conversation no caviar you asked that guy uh older caviar caviar he has no apps
yeah then he has no he's thrown away all his suits. He doesn't have any suits anymore.
And Babydoll shows up, and within two months,
he's back on TV, and guess who wins the Emmy?
John Stewart.
Babydoll and John Stewart.
Babydoll is executive producer, too.
Right.
Greedy, greedy MF-er.
Pretends to be our friend on these text chains.
How many houses are enough?
How many country clubs are enough?
The answer
14
is not the answer.
He's got more than that.
Anyway, our cousin didn't win
the Emmy because of Babydoll.
Wait till next year. Babydoll, he had
three of the four people in the category
because
Colbert, Seth Meyers was the only
one he doesn't have and he's probably going to sign him.
I'll get Seth.
Seth was the one who got away, baby.
Don't worry.
I'm not done with him.
Seth knows we're going to work together at some point.
All right, Sal, what do you got to plug?
That's it.
Through the Ringo with Tate.
I have against the Lods with the fellas, the D3.
Cousin Sal's winning weekend and the Ringo pregame show.
It's a lot of fun.
Hit my best bet.
Hit my underdog play of the day. It's a lot of fun. Hit my best bet. Uh,
hit my underdog play of the day and not a dime the show for it.
The ringer pregame show is fantastic. And the good thing,
if you go on YouTube TV and you subscribe to it,
then it just shows up in your library.
It tapes it automatically.
It's really great.
You go to pop separate.
YouTube TV is really good.
Anyway.
Uh,
Sal, as always,
good job on you. Good job on you, buddy. All right. That's it for the podcast. Thanks to
Cousin Sal. Thanks to Steve Cerutti and Kyle Creighton for producing as always. Don't forget,
you can find clips and full episodes of this podcast on the Bill Simmons YouTube channel.
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