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Episode Date: September 22, 2025

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I think you enjoyed it, though, Cousin' Sal. You like when the Giants look terrible. I like when they look terrible. I like when I actually win a leg on a Moneyline parlay. It's nice. Oh, congrats. Yes, unfortunately, it's the first leg for next week because I didn't have anything survived this week. But, yeah, they're not fun.

They're not fun, the Chiefs. Well, you know, so it was CBS. throwback day-to-day? I don't know if you saw the pre-game show. They had CBS, they had the guys with hair and outfits like it was in the 70s. They used the graphics from the 70s. Brent Musburger was on there. And then, of course, I had to watch the Patriots who looked like they were from the mid-70s,

the team that I fell in love with that went 3 and 11 and had 50 turnovers in the 1975 season. We had 50 turnovers in 1975, 28 interceptions and 22. football. You'll get there again, no worry. Yeah. But then it came full circle tonight when our second round pick, Tyquan Thornton, that we waived, is now the best guy in the Chiefs. I was like, this is it. They really did manage to bring back my childhood. I'm watching old Patriots shine on other teams. My team is not very good. The Chiefs, where do you stand after three weeks other than just being bored? Well, Tyquan should know that that's not the brand of the ball they play.

You don't catch long passes. You don't make spectacular catches at the goal. line. How dare he? It's 16 play drives that end up with a Butker field goal or a miss or something and then you grind it out and yeah, is it weird to say I feel bad for the chiefs? Because I feel like they're being put in a position they don't want to be in. They don't, they don't, it's like

I have to be in prime time. It's like asking the wife to fool around. She's like, all right, fine. Just like, it's okay. You don't have to be in prime time anymore. We just had to have someone go up against the Giants who's not going to score more than 30 points. So you fit the bill.

even Collinsworth seemed like he was going through the motions. Yeah. He tried to get a couple of Patrick, but he was like, I'm just ready to, I'm ready for a better game. I love this Cam Scadaboo. I just giggle every time. He's so big and white, Bill. Scataboo is it?

Scadaboo had one block where he just took out the defensive band, and that got Collinsworth excited. Funny as possible, Mahomes takes that you could sell right now with a shred of truth. I'll start. Go ahead. Clearly not one of the best three QBs anymore. Is it take you could have? You could have it.

I'm not saying I believe in it. Well, who do you put three? I mean, everyone loves Alan. We put Alan Lamar and then Herbert's been on fire this year. Herbert has made a massive leap, right? Yeah, I want to see a little more. I like Herbert this year. I agree with you.

I'm just saying there has to be a shred of truth. We'd have to make you go do one of those. How about this? He's a better defensive player than he is quarterback. I mean, he really did. that play before the half. That was a 10-point swing and all him. It was that causing the...

Somehow he was the only player out of the 11 who knew that was a backward pass, the only one on his team. And he did it twice. Yeah, right, right, right. And then he chased after it and miraculously punched it free and then throws like the 50-yard pass interference,

which was pretty great too. It was probably 70 yards, but yeah. Yeah, it's funny. This game was close. And it did feel like the Giants, we're going to get frisky with it and possibly steal it. And then it felt at the end of the half when they didn't get that turnover. They guys running at it in the end zone.

All of a sudden, Mahomes has it again. Then the chiefs, all of a sudden, they get a field goal and you just felt like, okay. Could you talk yourself into Mahomes as only awesome as long as he is a generational tight end and wide receiver on his team? Oh. Well, I went through the numbers with you last week, right? Like four years ago, it was 28 points a game. And then Tyree killed, it might have been a quarter.

incident. But he just does so much, though. I hate to put it on him, right? Because he just does so much. He knows all the angles. I ought to run for first downs and how to get hit late. Yeah. I didn't mind him. Could you talk yourself until he's a little out of shape like Lugodontich? Is there a shred? I don't know. I'm just trying to come up. Here's where I landed. When you're starting two wave patriots, three third string running backs and a washed up Hall of Fame tight end, maybe you're not going to look as good. I think that's probably the right take. He's a little weird on the long balls, I guess, would be the way to ding them. But for the most part, if you were going to do the eight teams that can win the Super Bowl,

would you have them as one of the eight right now after three weeks? I'll give you four that I think have to be on there. Buffalo, Cowboys, Philly, the Chargers, Green Bay, I think, despite today. Right. I would put Tampa Bay and the Rams on there personally to get to six. Okay. I think that seven spot still probably goes to KC, but there's a KC, San Francisco, Detroit, maybe for the 7-8.

Is that anybody else you're excited about? I put Detroit over them. You'd put Detroit over KC right now? Yeah, they're not getting a lot of love at all. I don't really get it. Well, we'll see tomorrow and I. Yeah, I guess we'll see. Oh, I accidentally left out Baltimore, so they should be.

They should be on there. Yeah. Sorry, Baltimore. Did you? Oh, yeah. Baltimore's going to win that division by four games. Yeah. They're ridiculous.

So Buffalo Chargers, Green Bay, Philly, Tampa, Baltimore, Rams, and then KC, San Francisco, or Detroit for the eighth spot. Because we always like to have eight, like eight to work with. Right. The only thing is we've seen them be a seven seed and, you know, run the table. Yeah. Are they much worse than that team? I would rather bet on them right now than Detroit or San Francisco,

mostly because San Francisco seems to have a massive injury every week. Oh, yeah. And they just seem to sneak fit for whatever reason. Detroit, we'll see tomorrow night. But yeah, I'm not ready to quit on Casey, but I think if they had lost today, that would have been it. We have six three and no teams, Buffalo, Indy, the Chargers, Philly, Tampa, and San Francisco.

But we have nine, two, and one team. six of them are in the NFC. Are we at the NFC is definitely better than the AFC point of this journey? Because I feel like it is. Yeah, I think so. I mean, that North is very solid. Just compare the Norths, right?

The East, both East divisions have their issues, right? Kind of a team running away with it. They have one, yeah, one good one and then some... Yeah. The North, I think the AFC North, despite the Steelers win today, I think it's lacking. I really do. I mean, I said the Ravens are going to win that by four games.

I believe that. whereas if you were to name playoff teams in the NFC North, I'd kick the Bears out of there probably now, but any of those other three are solid. And then the South. Well, then the NFC West. They have nine wins in the NFC West through three weeks already. Yeah.

Then the NFC West is pretty good too. NFC is there. Yep. Yeah, so we have six, O and three teams. The Jets, Miami, Houston, Tennessee, the Giants, and the Saints. The Jets and Giants are 0 and 6th, so. I feel like we've done this segment before, but let's do it again. What was the worst combined record they ever had in a 16 game season?

Jets and Giants. Jets and Giants? How many wins if you had to guess? Fandual number, if I gave you over under, seven and a half, would you go over or under? 16 game schedule? Right. Combined wins. Four and I'll say nine.

So, no. There was a bunch of eights. Okay. And in 1996, they went seven and 25 combined. Trying to figure out who the coaches were there. Is that a coat tight? Yeah, could have been a co-type. Yeah, could have been, uh, Handley Carol was gone.

It was after. A Coslet? Possible Coslet? Just guessing now. Coslet or Kotite, one of those guys. Then I don't know who for the Giants. Yeah, so the Jets Giants own six. I don't know.

They're going to switch to dart. That might give the Giants some life. I don't feel like the Giants are, awful. And the Jets could easily be two and one. So maybe... They can be. I mean, they just have to pull the giant.

They did a good job pulling them off prime time for the most part. They're not in the Thanksgiving game with Dallas. They're not in a Sunday night game against Dallas, although that was actually entertaining when they played Dallas. And Russell Wilson going into today was like, they had the most passing yards, right? And like most long passes. It was a stupid team.

Yeah, I guess so. Your team just revived. Caleb Williams' career today. Jesus Christ. He's back. The guy was getting ready to go to the CFL. Now he's the number of pick again. Some tweet said,

Iber Flues finally developed Caleb Williams. He finally is able to develop. The worst revenge game of all time. Good God. We'll show you. Nope. Russ looked like John Mara pulled him aside at the end and said, I'll give you a million dollars if you could hit the crossbar with a pass three straight times.

I know. Ready to do it. It was in the same spot all three times. I don't think anything drives me crazier than the fourth down, throw it out of bounds pass. Yeah. What's worse? You can just throw it straight up in the air

and have a drop down, like, you know, a satellite from outer space and you have a better chance than just whipping it out of us. The only pass interference called every two and a half plays, yeah. Take a shot. I don't get it.

So I'm guessing you didn't do well gambling west today because I had a horrible day and I'm officially worried about 2025 for me now. I had a bad, we did our overrunner spot. I was telling you I didn't feel great about this season. I, it's not going great. I did not have a good day today. There's, I did not either.

I mean, we're going to talk a good length. I think about that Rams Eagles game. But when you have, first of all, those early games were just monsters, just really, really bad, right? And then you like, I think it's because you have both South, I know we pick on the South divisions a lot, but you have teams that just don't seem like they want to win, like Jacksonville and the Texans and the Titans and the Falcons, right? So bad. And then the heart attack endings in three of these, other. There's like block kicks, return for touchdowns.

It's just 1 p.m. Pacific time lunacy. But yeah, yeah, I was on the wrong side of all of those endings. My biggest one I got the most wrong was the Falcons in Carolina, which it was really more a bet against Carolina. I thought Carolina was the worst team I saw in the first two weeks, and they had that deceiving comeback against the Cardinals, but they were really bad. And they came out, they took the lead, they looked very polished, Pennix was an abomination

like he just couldn't have been worse to the point you're like are they going to bring in Kirk Cousins at halftime? They get shut out by Carolina and Carolina and that's another division where it's like who's Tampa can just have a guy go down

or Mike Evans went down for them today I still don't know if anyone challenges them if Atlanta's going to lose 30 to nothing on the road in Carolina I'm not taking them seriously much about Tampa's winning some stupid games too but I do think they're when they get everyone back, they're better.

Yeah, that was the biggest Panthers win in a decade and they had 224 total yards. I'm just getting rid of, I was thinking like, are there too many? I asked like,

chat GBT, like I said, favorites four or more points that get shut out. Favorites by four or more and chat Gb, it basically told me to fuck off. I guess it was busy,

but there can't be too many favorites, like mid-range favorites that get shut out. That was, I, You know, look, we knew there was going to be some weirdness. The higher favorites did great the first two weeks, right? We were texting about it all week.

Okay, keep your guard up. Green Bay, that line just stayed specifically at seven and a half, seven all week. The money line was high, but the line was just never as high as it seemed like it should have been. And then that game had all the makings the whole day. Green Bay could never pull away. Love had the really, really bad fourth quarter interception. All of a sudden, Judkins, out of nowhere. It wasn't even on the team. When we did our knockout draft, I don't even

think he had signed with the Browns did. I'm not sure anyone even took him or maybe somebody took him. No, nobody had him. You chinked him. You said you had the better Ohio State running back. Apparently, that debate has been opened again. But you just kind of knew how it was going to play out, but it made no sense as you were watching it. It's like, somehow the Browns are going to win this. I have no idea. But then this kicker, who we made fun of after week one, Schmitt, Sismet, whatever his name is, and he's got a 55 yard. It's like, of course

he's going to make this. So now Green Bay has a little shine off their Super Bowl. Yeah, Super Bowl. Bliss. Until they beat the Cowboys by 78. And like, wow, we haven't seen that. That's weird. But yeah, they thought they could sleepwalk through this game. And for the most part, they were right. At one point

I saw four offensive linemen were wearing sandals. Is that weird? Like, they don't care. There was a sandals game. But, um, You can't even say they were looking ahead to next week because they were playing your terrible team next week. It's not like it's like, I'm getting ready for the cabers. Everyone's wearing sandals.

But the Browns were hilarious. The ball on the two and kept moving backwards. And there was no urgency with four minutes left. And then, I don't know, third and three with 318, love throws an interception. It didn't make any sense. We talked about the Browns both weeks looking a little better than maybe if people didn't watch the game,

they would have thought. I thought week one, they should have won. And just in general, they seem like relatively confident. And then today they hung with Packers that whole game. And their defense is top seven defense, top five defense. Yeah, they're really taking to the Packers. One thing with the Packers, they're missing a bunch of receivers. And it doesn't, you know, I think they never really had a number one,

but they had a bunch of number twos. Right. And now it's basically just Golden and Dobbs. Wicks, and then Kraft was playing hurt, and they just didn't have that same kind of explosives. But the Browns that's not going to be an easy place to win this year. They at least have an identity

and know who they are. I wonder, like, if Shador will see him this year, though. So we're going to average 10 points a game, like at some point got to think about it. Yeah, I guess so. Or one of those guys. Flacco would throw 90 passes in two weeks, right? So this game was a little different, but yeah, any team in the

league, you only score 10 points. You're going to give them a chance to, I mean, I thought that leverage call was coming for sure on that field goal. I thought I was like, here it comes. No way. Green Bay had 14 penalties, 230 yards total. And I think we can safely say the bandwagon got a little overcrowded. Yeah.

A little too many people on there. Who do you have as the favorite right now? Do they want to give, they can give Micah back if they want? I mean, that's... Just flip the trade backwards. Just damage goods. Favorite to win the whole thing? Yeah, if you had to make one Super Bowl bet right now, what would it be?

And I think you can even say for odds versus who you think is going to actually win. Because the favorites right now are Baltimore and Buffalo and Fandoah 5 to 1. Right. Is that going to change? I don't think that's going to change unless there's an NFC team that just really, really comes out in front. Packers had a shot to do that. But I think it's going to be Buffalo, Baltimore. And when we get to the lines, you'll see how much these teams are respected.

But, yeah, Buffalo didn't look great Thursday night, but I still put them at a bunch of dudes. Yeah, I put them at the top. Well, you figure they're probably going to be at one seed, especially that division. Right. The Pats, my stupid team, the Jets, the Dolphins, they could go just six and O. If you go six and O in a division, at that point, you just need to go seven and four against everybody else, right? Right. Something like that.

Yeah. I think that was one of my future bets with you, that they went six and oh, something like that, that they ran the table. Yeah, I remember taking it personally because I believe in the paths. And that's not how it worked out. Let's take a break. And then I want to talk about the Super Bowl team that I think we should have a real conversation. The Bill Simmons podcast brought to you by Fandul. Fandle is changing the way you live bet football.

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All right, before I went to break, I said I wanted to talk about the possible Super Bowl team that we need to have a real conversation about. Who do you think that is? All right? So it's one of the top eight you named earlier, right? Yeah. Okay. And it's, I think it's going to be someone who won today. So I'm going to kick the Rams out of there. I don't think you're going to say nine is. All right, the Chargers is fine. Go ahead. Yeah, let's do it. That's what it is? I didn't bet on it today because I have so many Denver futures that it wasn't worth it for me to do it. I really wanted to do

the Denver plus three. Now, if you watch the game very closely and there are only three games, so I watched this entire game and I thought the Broncos defense was great. Like they pressure, they had 29 pressures on Herbert. They sacked them five times

and he was under duress and it felt like a very even game. And then you look at the stats after, Denver got out game by 111 yards. The Chargers had 29 first downs. Denver had nine. Yeah. Denver kind of got dominated, but it didn't feel like that when you're watching because they were putting pressure on Herbert. I thought Herbert, you know, he was fantastic

in that first game. I thought that last drive, that touchdown pass, especially just fantastic. MVP-wise, he's down to 6 to 1 now. And I think it's legitimate because he's playing as well as to anybody. They're three in their division. And I think what I liked about that game, Sal, it felt like a playoff game. I know Nick's didn't play that well. Nick's missed a couple bombs that he has now figured

out how to hit a guy in stride by six inches too far and it hits their, he'll hit like three fingertips, but never get the guy in stride. And it's like, oh! He's like the master. So they had plays, Franklin dropped one in the end zone. Like they left stuff on

the table. And I thought the Chargers played, you know, they lose Najee Harris against an Achilles thing. I'm rambling. My point is, I thought it felt like a playoff game watching it. I could see that game in January. It didn't feel like a Chargers game, right? Like the 2007 to 2024

Chargers would have blown that game. No question. They almost did. They were up 10-0 and Denver came back and it really looked like the yards were going to come at a premium. It wasn't, they weren't really moving the ball. And like you said, that last drive was really something. That's the defense, the Denver defense, we've been

afraid of. That's a Denver defense. You bet all those futures on, right? Yeah. I'm going to say something else, too. We may have to get rid of one of our favorite jokes, which is Chargers fans not showing up to watch the games. Yeah, that was a good crowd. It sounded loud, right? I don't think they're pumping noise in.

It's really sounded. I usually wait to the next day where I could watch fights in the crowd. They usually pop up on Twitter, and then you scan the crowd, but I think it was pretty good for them. Herbert, you know, who we've talked about a lot in this podcast and I've been saying how I'm a result guy, it feels like he's gone up a level and he's just hitting these little checkpoints now. Like that drive, I just feel like a year ago they lose the game. That Johnston is wide open five times a game now.

Like this was a guy who felt like he might be a bus two years ago. And then the Keenan Allen, who they got felt like pretty late in the summer. It feels like you can hear from him twice a game when they really, really need him. He's going to make a play. I don't know. That team has the look. I wonder what they need.

They have Mac who's going to be out for a couple weeks. Slater's gone for the year. I wonder could they get one more offensive linemen maybe during this season? What are they for the division now? Because for them to be, for him to win MVP and all that stuff, they have to be a top 13 and 4.

Two seed, right? Yeah. Minus 155. Well, here's the thing about them in the division. They're 3 and O already in the division. Right. They're 3 and O, but they're all AFC West games. So, you know, watching them, I think Denver's closer to them than the Chiefs are.

But we know, as we talk about every week, like when we got away for Rice and were to come back before we know we have with the Chiefs. But sure. I've been really impressed. Do they play Baltimore or Buffer? flow this here. I've got to look this up. The Chargers. Chargers had the second

play schedule. I'm looking that up right now. They play the Eagles. They play the Chiefs again. Play the Broncos again. That's really it. I mean, you look at their schedule, the next couple. They're at the Giants. Their home commanders. They're at the Dolphins. And then they have the Colts

in week seven. Like, they really could be six and O heading in that Colts game. Yeah. And if Denver's going to lose dumb games like this, that week 18 game in Denver, which everyone had penciled, you know, circled, might not mean as much. Yeah, I mean, this easily, had they lost to Denver, then you're looking at the chiefs are a game behind and they still have to play, charges still have to play the chiefs in KC, right? Then it's like, ah, man, this is up for grabs. But what did we say it was, minus 155? Yeah, I think those are, I think those are good odds,

especially like some of the games that seem like they were going to be hard, not sure. Titans, that's not a hard game anymore. At Cowboys, Week 16. Easy. You're going to be like 4 and 11 at that point. At Dolphins, that's not a hard game anymore. So, you know, and then that at Broncos game, maybe they'll get to the point where they won't have to care about it.

But this is the easy stretch of their schedule right now. At Giants, home commanders, at Dolphins. And then we'll see with the Colts. We'll see if the Colts are really. real. But yeah, I thought, you know, and then the other team that I could definitely, we mentioned them earlier, I thought just the Rams, the Rams definitely can hang. Now, let's talk about how awful. They can hang. They almost made me hang. Jesus. I mean, there are 26, what was it, 26 to 7?

26, 7, that was it. Yep. Did you feel like the Eagles could come back? Because I did. At 26, 7? Yeah, I was sitting there going, and this is actually maybe what they need to electroshock their system and start doing stuff. But I thought they'd come back. I thought the Rams would score again and the Rams.

I was so locked into the narrative that Jaylen Hertz sucks. He can't throw the ball past six yards. No one's catching it anyway. He can only run. He's as good as Barkley goes. And the Rams were moving the ball too. No, I didn't.

I mean, you could have gotten a monster live line on that. Like that's... I didn't take it off the multi-view. No. Yeah. Because there was a lot of time, it was 26-7, but there was, it was like early in the third quarter. You know. It was in Philly.

I wrote down. That thing is sick. That's, I feel like everybody, like, doesn't seem like online, everybody had that, that bed egg, that bad beat. Yeah. Well, the Rams are one of the most popular picks this week, right? Yeah. Rams plus three and a half.

That's like when, like, 150,000 people claim they were at game six, Red Sox Mets. But I was like, really, everybody had this. I know I did. I'll show you. But this is, that ending was, does it get any worse than that? What do you want to talk about the whole game? I don't care.

I mean, no, let's talk about the ending first. I wrote down, uh, that was a utter pandemonium sportsbook game. Like you've ever been in Vegas for one of those when it seems like some. And then it's a shift and the guy's running and people are just like flying around

and the sports book going, going crazy. But we've had, we have these every year. I think people get amnesia. Really? Yeah. We have at least one of those every year.

That's just, like, completely insane. So, all right, let's set the stage. The Rams are getting three and a half points. They're kicking a field goal to win the game. So they're right now. They win the game or they don't get it and they still cover. Oh, they don't get it. So the only thing, the only thing that screws him is a blocked field goal run back for a touchdown.

And then the guy actually being dumb enough to run it all the way back versus just running out of bounds. But if I said to you, I'm like, all right, Bill, sit down. Are you seated? like the Rams are going to have this kick blocked. Who do you want? Draw me what you want the guy who blocked it to look like. And you would draw. 280-pound guy.

You know, like 280? I said, okay, how about this? How about he's 520? How about he's 520 pounds? You okay with that? You're okay, sure. The game's over by then. This freaking brotherly love Butterbean runs it all the way back

and kills another ring of 107 pick of mine. Where was the one fast Rams guy chasing him down from behind? like the backup safety who's doing the Don Bibi just right nobody there was nobody even in the picture I guess it was 18 to half miles an hour which I wouldn't even know like humans really did that

God bless them I need to get a faster car I guess I don't know well the Eagles they had to fall behind by 19 to become entertaining that was very entertaining that game also felt playoffy I thought Nakua was awesome yep I mean then any of the stats he was 11 for

or 120, something like that. I think he's moved up a level this year for the conversation. What conversation? He's always up there. We had Chase and Jefferson. Oh, offensive. Right?

And then there was a drop off. And then it was like Nico Collins and neighbors. And you can start listening to all these dudes. I think Nakuwa has to be up there now. Did you look? I can tell you where he is, odds-wise on Fandle. For what? Offensive player of the year.

Oh, what is he? Isn't that what you're talking about when you say he moves up? I'm just talking best receiver. Oh, I see. Because poor chase is stuck with the backup now for three months. Jefferson stuck with Carson Wentz. The coup is third at plus 750. Derek Henry plus 650.

Jonathan Taylor plus 500 because he just is just racking up insane numbers. Derek Henry? Yeah. How's he in there? Well, he had two touchdowns first week and then last week he took off. I'm surprised Taylor's odds aren't even lower. Because he's been the most dynamic. Really?

Yeah, he's been awesome. Every game he's done one or two things. I also think Smith and Chigba is, he's 25 to win that. That's not bad. That would probably nudge that one up. Jamar Chase's just gone, not giving him a chance. You're right. I mean, how could he?

30 to 1. Jefferson, too, same there. So that's one where I feel like we could see that game again in January, Eagles, Rams. Yeah. We could be running that one back. Sure. It was great last January, too. I just pleased that don't get me on that result again.

was terrifying. I forgot to ask you on Chargers, Broncos. Where are you with Bo Nix right now? It's tough because... I feel like I've watched every snap of the Broncos this season. And it just has not been consistent. No, definitely not.

I like the Oregon guys. So it was Knicks. I watch Knicks a lot. Herbert, that was fun, watching them go out of each other. He does seem to take charge and he has good control. Like when he calls his own number and runs the ball,

I was like, wow, that's good. That's, that looked, he looks like a fourth year quarterback. But I also think people gave him too much credit last year. Like that defense was so dynamite. That's what kept them in a lot of these games. But yeah, he is, he is off from last year. Yeah, he's just not as accurate. He had a great play in the fourth quarter to scramble.

And it was like third and 12, third and 13. And there were people in front of them. And it seemed like he was going to either slide or get tackled. And he made a move. And he somehow got. got right to the line. And you saw the whole sideline, like, explode, the Bronco sideline. You know, I always loved that.

And it just, it felt like a moment. It felt like, here we go. Bo Nix is, he's finally shown up for the season. Somehow they, uh, no, I think he's taking the CJ Stroud approach. Like, have a memorable rookie year. And then everyone's like, what the fuck? What is going on with this guy? Oh, yeah.

Wait, we should talk about CJ. Let's, I'll skip ahead of that game. Jaguar 17, Texans 10. This is one of the only games. I got right. Jaguar's defense, I continue to think might be pretty good, even though the Bengals scored some points on them.

But they can rush a passer. They seem to get turnovers. And then on the flip side, Houston's offense now, 38 points in three games. Today was a little unlucky because Collins had a really bad fumble with like four minutes left. It felt like Lawrence threw a terrible pick.

They had a lead. Bad Lawrence pick. It was like Jaguress karaoke. Houston long passed a wide open Collins, tied, Jaguars, they give up the ball back, Texans coming down, then that Collins fumble, and then all of a sudden, all of a sudden that was it. We came flying back the other way. Yeah, I mean, when we go over the worst teams in the league, we won't include the Texans, but that offense has been real atrocious, right? Like, it's going in, they were last in

points scored, and obviously right there again, right? And like fourth to last in yardage, He threw 38 times, which is a lot when most of it is in catch-up time, right? And he couldn't break 185. So there were lots of drops, actually. I don't know why I find myself defending Trevor Lawrence all the time. They were like five drops on the Lawrence side. Thomas was bad for three hours and then made the biggest play of the game. Right.

Yeah. So, yeah, 1710 sounded right in a game that nobody wanted. I don't know what happened to Thomas. All right. I wrote in my notes, he seems like he's in like some sports. sports movie where it's like the part where they're playing like sad music and where before they come back and become the hero again. Like when Rod did well, that part Jerry McGuire when he's just, you know, he's filming the commercial and Jerry's yelling at him. And then we just see him get

the shit kicked out of him. And it's kind of all headed norbanet football. He just seems like he's in a major funk. I was reading about all he's on, I think most of my fantasy teams. And I was reading about it this week. And it's like the most polarizing topic with the Jaguar fans. Because most of them are like Team Lawrence, and a lot of them are blaming Thomas for, like, he's dogging routes, he's not catching stuff. He can only run one type of, right? He can either go deep or just do a deep cross, and that's it. He can't catch the ball over the middle. But, yeah, they're kind of a mess.

And yet, I'd rather be them than Houston. Yeah. Houston can't block. Houston, unless that Woody Marks can turn into something a running back, they've no running back. They've no running backs. Right. They spent two second round picks on receivers and they have nobody who can block. And then Stroud doesn't look like the guy from two years ago.

No. Now they have some relief. They play the Titans at home. But no, I would not want to be the Texans right now. That's a lousy team. I don't know. Yeah, as far as Jacksonville goes, like they, you know, Lawrence has his awful moments too. But he had to think Travis Hunter was going to work out, right?

And he had to think Brian Thomas wouldn't drop three balls a game. So that offense, I think, has a chance to get going. I don't know about the Texans. I mean, we love Nico Collins, but I feel like he may have to do it all. Well, here's the other thing. There's three back in the AFC South already. Yeah. They're, I mean, nine and eight might get a seven seed.

So they'd still have to go nine and five the rest of the way. Their schedule is not that hard, but, you know, 38 points in three games. I can't even, I can't even imagine how much money you're going to put on a money line parley with them to beat the Titans to start i don't know i might scale back until i get a better feel for this season yeah today was not great the Colts killed the Titans um I had a little on the Titans money line and uh immediately regretted it not a lot just a little Colts still have not punted is that true yeah you're right only one other team has gone three and oh and punted less than five times and it was the 2007 New England Patriots um so on Tennessee first

there were fire Callahan chance they've had 31 penalties in three weeks they did a whole bunch of dumb shit again but I really want to hone in on what happened in the end of the first half. Do you watch this game or do you have it on multi-day? Yeah, yeah, I had it. It was fourth and one

during the 39-yard line with 46 seconds left in the first half. Indy calls timeout because they want to get the ball back. The timeout ends and Callahan still deciding whether he wants to do a field goal or not. They get a delay a game after a timeout.

And the field goal goes from 57 to 62, sly misses, Indianapolis ends up driving down and getting a field goal. So Calhant says after, I hadn't decided yet at the moment what we're going to do. We were going back and forth and wanted a minute to think about it. I was going back and forth between the fourth down call and the field goal and decided to go take points to that particular situation. and the operational part of it to kick it on time didn't happen.

They were coming out of a timeout that they didn't even call. Right, right. This guy's terrible. House calls him Dumbo on my Thursday night pot every week. It might be offensive to Dumbo. He hates him. He says the worst ever. Well, we might have a new entry to the first coach fired.

Yeah. Because McDaniel, like Buffalo, Buffalo really had to work to beat Miami on Thursday night. I thought Miami, like, fought. Right. Tennessee's not fighting for that Miami's driving the second quarter to end the second quarter was as good as you'll see all year but um yeah Callahan it's funny because Callahan was the name of the tires it wasn't that Tommy boy Callahan tires like she could Chris Farley go around trying to save his

Callahan's job should that be your nickname for him Tommy boy Tommy boy his name's that Tommy he's the father that a heart attack in the third scene his thing with the with the field goal and the lay a game. That was when Tommy Boy was doing the demonstration for the guy and he set his desk on fire. He's like, you guys over there, puking his guts out! Get out!

That's Callahan. Anyway, well, then the other thing is, Cam Ward started the game with the pick six. And it was like a really awful I'm going to just stare you down and then throw it and on the positive side. The Colts three.

you know. And Daniel Jones apparently has down the nickname Indiana Jones. I hate it. I heard the NBC guys talking about that in the pregame show. That's why I hate it. Jason Garrett really enjoyed it. He started humming the song. And I don't know. I can get there with it. I was there. No, don't you do it now too. But no, I don't, it's fine. Tate and I were talking about. Is it the best nickname? There's so many great nicknames in the NFL. And I was all behind it. And then exactly. I had it just written down. Jason Garrett starts. singing the song and calling them Indiana Jones. What was the song?

How is the song? Isn't it a da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Whatever. I don't need Jason Garrett's singing or speaking. No, I just said that's Star Wars. That's, that is? Hold on. Yeah, hold on.

We got to get this right. Let's get it right. Thank God we're not going live on YouTube today. It's really, the Raiders, the Raiders theme song. Now we're going to get blocked on YouTube. The Raiders song is. Hold on. I got Raiders

Lost Ark Why am I We did it? Yeah, it is. I got it right. Oh, this is John Yeah, we did get it right. Woo-hoo.

Yeah. I don't know why I was blanking. Colts, do you believe yet? I believe they can win that division, right? Like we're not excited about anybody else. But, yeah, that'll be, I'm looking long and hard at them as the team I'm going to bet against in the playoffs. Sure. Shakies?

They're at Rams, home Raiders, home Cardinals, at Chargers. The funny thing is, they killed the Dolphins, but they should have lost to the Broncos. And then deservedly beat the Titans. But, you know, their leverage call gets called that they're two and one. We're not as accepted. The individuals are getting all the love. Fandle. Johnton Taylor, as I mentioned, offensive player of the year, favorite

Stuyken plus 380 coach of the year. I would have thought Daniel Jones would be this is not right. He's third for comeback player of the year. I thought they were going to give him that award next week when he comes to LA. Well, what did he come back from? Just being terrible? I guess that's

it. Did he, did he like we, I guess we went through this with FACO that time. Right, right, right. Can you come back from something if all it was. He's Indiana Jones. I have to give them the award. I like that Trevor Lawrence is fourth. Who's betting on, did Trevor Lawrence come back?

Did I get the memo? Right. It's 17 points today. Well, Dak, McCaffrey, those two are both ahead of Daniel Jones right now. I guess you're right. It's what you come back from, right? McCaffrey's. Two is 100 to one.

Probably would recommend no on that one. Yeah. Well, I think you're right. What are the Colts division odds now? They are like almost two to one, right? Yeah. Oh, no. minus 135.

135. Hmm. All right. If you parlay that and the charges, it's like a trap. Who screws you? You almost get two to one.

Yeah, one of those teams are going to be the Rabbit team. I would do, I still feel like the Jags can be heard from. I know that's crazy,

but I like some of the pieces with them, and I think their coach isn't bad. That's my, I mean, that was my preseason team to win, so I have to stay with it. I'm just trying to see

if the Colts, if it ever gets hard for them here. At the Rams, home for the Raiders, home for the Cardinals, at the Chargers, that's a fun game. And Titans, Steelers, Falcons. I'm just mad at myself

because I couldn't, July and August, I didn't want to pick the Texans. I couldn't come up with another team. I wanted to short the Chiefs. I didn't have the balls. And then thought it was going to be the Broncos and I had the wrong team. The South divisions ruin our

summers. We spend much too much time trying to figure out who's going to win. And then our families are growing up and we're missing it all. It doesn't make sense that Daniel Jones was that bad last season, unless it's just a two-year injury. Yeah. Because he was completely awful last year. Speaking of awful, Niners cards was a pretty awful game.

And it had a, so the Niners were going to win. And then Mac Jones turned into Mac Jones through a terrible pick to get the ball back. there's a safety involving Mac Jones wasn't his fault holding penalty. And at that point, you realize Niners, one and a half is going to be dust because it's 15-13 card dust. I was struggling before the beginning of the day

to do Niners minus one and a half for Niners' Money Line, which is minus 120. It's like, I'll just do the minus one and a half. When is teams ever, when are they ever won by one? Well, then they come down, Mac Jones leads a game-winning drive. the Cardinals. So I want to blame Kyla Murray or Gannon, but

the reality is third and nine. They ran a great pass to Zay Jones, and he just couldn't hold out to it. That was the high one he went up for and you didn't come back. I guess if you're going to ding them, it's like you ran the play of the game for Zay Jones. Well, here's who you could blame. This was a rat

line, and I lost on this too, so I'm not going to pretend to be an expert, but this was a rat line. It was one and a half, right? The tick-tack, the one we hate. No one had a good thing to say about Arizona this week. They were, Oh, they're lucky to be two and oh. They had injuries all over the place. And this line could not move past San Francisco one and a half.

And the gambling god says, I know what we'll do. We'll have them win by one point. And everyone like Bill will have them minus one and a half. And Mac Jones, like, that was pretty remarkable taking them down the field there. And he was hurt. He was on one leg. And you get caught for it. Right.

He was like limping around. You get a safety. That's like insulting. That's really hard to come back from. I know it wasn't his fault. but that's like getting slapped in the face with the white glove and he just like shook it off

and it came all the way down and won that. It actually made a field goal. And they lost Bosa early in that game. I thought that they had a bunch of plays in the red zone and inside the 10

and I thought that Card's defense really rose to the occasion. I don't know why the cards defense is as frisky as it is because it's not like it's loaded with all pros but they made a bunch of plays. Connor going down,

flipped the game a little bit for them because, you know, I actually think they probably win if that doesn't happen. But I thought the coaching on both sides, I thought some of the red zone stuff with the Niners was really bad. Arizona, I just, when Murray is coming out and around, like when you're betting against the cards, I'm just always worried of him rolling out, like when they need first downs.

Then they get away from that. It's like, oh, you're just going to go back and try to hit somebody on third and nine. I just, I don't love the, whatever. I thought Shane McBride was terrifying. Good throw to him in the end zone. Yep, that helped. But the teams were pretty close, though, was my takeaway from that game. The Cardinals were a little better than I was prepared for.

And the Niners just winning that game with Mac Jones, I thought, was pretty good. The Niners are three and out. But are they going to lose, and they beat, was that all three NFC West teams that beat? Wait, no, yeah. The Cardinals in Seattle. Yeah, right. Yeah, I, oh, and New Orleans is the other. Yeah, they're just going to lose someone big every week, though?

That's the problem. That's what that's the issue. We know they're not deep. They pay seven guys, you know, 80% of their, the budget there. So I'm not sure how many more injuries they can afford. I mean, McCaffrey, that play in the end on the last drive, there's just nobody better than him on us. You just, that's true. You kind of know they're going to do the dump off past him.

They do it anyway. and he's flying off. Their defense is a little better than I thought it was going to be, considering they had so much turnover. Considering they lost like, what, seven, eight guys, but I think seven kids Sal is helping them, or now he has eight kids. All right.

What's that division? Minus 105? We have a three and O team and three, two, and one teams? Yes, that's right. You want to talk about your team or my team? I mean, we're going to hit both of them. Let's do your team. And then maybe we'll forget about mine.

Fumbled four times. Inside the five-yard line, we had a tip pick that the quarterback just should have lofted it. It's the easiest touchdown ever and just tries to throw a straight line for some reason. But I think the reason is because it seemed like he got mildly concussed two plays earlier. And they don't even stop it. They don't have like, I thought they had these concussion spotter. Like he hits his head backwards. He's holding his head.

And then two plays later throws a terrible tip thing. Ramadre fumbles twice. It's an all-time murder. I don't think we'll see him again. The paths have five turnovers and 26 first downs. I don't remember that stat ever. Last three quarters, they outgame Pittsburgh, 349 to 101. And they lose by seven.

Yeah. And it was a fucking absolute gut punch of the three hours. I hated it. Yeah. Ugly, ugly, ugly. And we're definitely better than that team. I think so, too. But five turnovers.

I mean, the Steelers didn't even do a great job. Imagine the only scoring 21 points. The other team is five turnover. Like, Rogers made a couple good throws, but 139 yards. They had 203 total yards, like you were alluding to. It just doesn't seem like a rabble team, though, right? With all the turnovers. And even like going, but even going for it on fourth down,

I know they were four for five. Like, he goes for it the least on fourth. We went for it on our own 15. Yeah, right. It's just like a different coach, different everything, different discipline. May, I think May is incredibly talented. And 90% of the game he had today was great. But he, one play a half, he does something stupid.

Like the tip pass touchdown, that's his fault. Like he can't make that play. And then the other one was, you know, in traffic. I don't know what he's trying to do, but he loses it and he fumbles. when he's doing he's just trying to do too much and sometimes I'll put the ball on the ground and he's got to figure out how to not have those two plays a game he's young he's 22 but I think when he's moving around on the sides and like he's lightning fast right there's a lot to like he's not too young for me to give him a nickname that you're you're not going to love okay let's hear I'm

ready for it he probably deserves it Drake maybe you got to say like Drake maybe Right? He may be good. I don't know. Is this an even week or an odd week? That's so good. I'm never going to call him that, but that's really good. Okay. Yeah. It's just a really good nickname. It's Drake, maybe. I'm sorry. I mean, we haven't done my team yet. There's plenty of names you can call them. I feel like that might stick unless he can shake it. Come on, maybe. Let's do it. Have some fun out there, kid. Just don't have your one terrible play half. I'm a complete boy.

I have an incredible amount of Drake my stock, but he just can't help it. Yeah. Man. That's tough. Yeah, I'm sorry. Rogers can only do two things at this point. He can do the quick back pedal,

quick throw that's either like a short wide receiver pass or to a tight end three yards of front of him. And he can do the three-step drop, quick back shoulder, 20-yard throw, and he can't do anything else. And he's, if you're pressuring him, he's just going to get rid of the ball. I was not impressed by him.

I didn't think he was very good today, but he did enough to kind of hang around and get 21 points. Yeah, you made things extraordinarily easy for them. I mean, just barely top 200 total yards. Couple big, any incompletion, he's doing this for the flag, like he, you know, and then, like, he got three of them. It was very, it was a very frustrating game. I can't believe that Drake May nickname.

Unbelievable. I shouldn't have said it to you. I feel like a bad friend now. Jesus. Why don't you come up with a nickname for my kids now? Okay. I'll work on it. Maybe.

Oh, my God. I still believe. All right, your stupid team. Oh, no. You revived Caleb's career. He had a massive fantasy day. Your defense has given up 12, 25-yard-plus pass plays in the last two games. Yeah.

You felt for the worst flea flicker I've ever seen. It's still hanging in the air. It was like an alley hoop. Yeah. It was like flicking a feather. That's the flit. Yeah. It just never came down.

I've been my cowboy's friend, text chain, and we're trying to remember if this is the worst defense we've seen in decades. And it really might be. It really might be. There was a Nolan. There was a couple of bad ones. But, I mean, 385 yards in 57 plays.

I did a little math. That's seven yards. play. And it seemed like so much more. And the fact that does everyone just embarrass their old coordinator? Like, you know, Ben Johnson was embarrassed by Detroit. Should we keep this in mind for gambling purposes? Like Chicago embarrassed, Abram Flus. So, you know, congrats. You gave Caleb Williams his best game since it was a sophomore at USC. I hate it. I hated it. Awful. But Dunsey's good. He, I think he's been, he's definitely made a leap up this season. Yeah. Right. Uther Bird and, you know, the

fleets like he's over by 15 yards. God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Kenny Clark, who we got from Micah Parsons, he's out, he came back. Trayvon Diggs. I don't even know who's good anymore, honestly. I get, like, bummed if these guys are out. But we are going to be exciting, though. You're going to see a lot of the same game

over and over. The problem is as soon as CD Lamb went out, the game was over. Yeah, right. Because you have this top heavy team. You already traded Parsons. Now you just have DAC and CD. You take him out. There were guys I'd never heard of. What you're Pickens is good.

Pickens is all right, right? He's a very solid number two. If CD could stay on the field, then Giovante Williams, you know, he fumbled. But that's been a surprise, too. So what's our record going to be?

What's your record going to be? Fando has the regular season wins. They still have it up already, huh? Wow. You can go under six and a half wins is plus 120. Yeah, I think six and eleven is right. Under five and a half is plus 220. I mean, I'd have to find five wins for them.

I don't, I don't, I don't think they're there. Five more? Well, is CD going to be hurt for a couple weeks there? He says he's playing Sunday. He says he's going to play. Miami under four and a half wins is plus 165. It's pretty good, too. Under five and a half is minus 120.

I don't, are they getting to six wins, the Miami Dolphins? Do you want to wait on that? They're home for the Jets on Monday night. For them to get to six wins, that means they're six and eight the rest of the way. Is that team going six and eight? Yeah, that's, no, no, no. No.

I have so many Miami futures already that I just, I can't put more on it. Against them, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but don't worry. I'll give it all back with Denver. Do you know what's great with Tua? Yeah. First of all, he throws like he has a bomb attached to his chest.

Like, I know exactly where the timer is and I got to get rid of it. but, you know, they were quarterbacks. He's staring it in the ocean. Yeah. Like Jimmy G. Who are the guys who would like throw the hospital balls? Like even Peyton towards the end of his career, James. He does this.

He does it with running backs. I've never seen it with running backs before. But he'll have A chain like flaring out. And like that's clearly the option, but doesn't get him the ball for a good five Mississippi count. And then he just gets blown up in the backfield. Like he's throwing these passes for minus yards. It's remarkable what he's doing to it.

He also does this Jedi mind trick on the announcers because he seems like he's in command. At one point, Herb Street's like, I really like what I'm seeing from Tua. He's really got command of this game. He really, and he was like four yards of throw.

Right. He was like 30, 30 attempts for 118 yards. Herb shoots praising him. Then he throws an interception and triple coverage to end the game. But there's something about the rhythm of how he plays. is that you feel like it's going better than it actually is. Then you look at the stats. You're like, oh, this is going terribly.

He had the one great drive at the end of the second quarter. And that was it. Otherwise, it's, you know, Tyree Kill has issues too. But he's like basically hugging the goalpost and 70 yards behind them to just completed a three-yard pass. I'm not going to keep doing this. Three blowouts. Washington killed the Raiders.

Big is taking Gentie at 6 is starting to look a little gamey. Yeah, when you think like Membo and the Jets and the right tackle or the left tackle the Saints took Banks and then the Raiders

can't block Vikings Bengals was a blowout five Bengals turnovers two for TDs. I think the yeah, the biggest thing with this is Chase was going first

in some leagues he was certainly the first wide receiver but in auctions he was in the 50s. Sure. In any snake draft, he was one, two, or three. I don't know.

If we were doing fantasy drafts over again, I don't think he's one of the top eight or nine picks without Burrow. It's Jake Browning. Right? I mean, and there was way too much. It's a fantasy murder. Oh, yeah, for sure. And I felt Jefferson's the same in the same boat.

But there was a ton of Jake Browning love this week. Like, yeah. He would have thought it was Jake from State Farm, the way the football pundits were like just going on and on about him. And what did he do? He was 19 for 27, 140, two interceptions. I had that game on the multi-view for a while, and there were a few kind of showing him on the sidelines,

and it was a little deer in the headlights see. Now, granted, he's in Minnesota. They're blitzing them. They're doing all this stuff. Don't you have two multi-views going? There were nine games of some in the early sleep. I did, I settled on, I had the four. Yeah.

Then I had two. I had a split. So I had two on one TV. and then I had Rams Eagles on the other TV so I had seven I just punted on two games I didn't really

I didn't watch commanders Raiders at all but why you know I thought whatever the blowout game I got rid of that immediately I never watched that again why doesn't

maybe I'm the only one who wants this but even DirecTV had the eight box come on YouTube you can get that going or six or something six not bad the problem with Red Zone

is I hate when the red zone is ahead of the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like sometimes red zone and they'll show it, but then it's like behind in the box that I've been watching. You have to switch your gaze and everything.

So I'll get rid of it. Seahawks Saints, nothing happened there other than the Seahawks. Might have the makings of a top five defense. It's, I'm not saying they're a top five defense, but there's some meat, some meat in that dish. And there's a darn old Gino seesaw right now

where week one, oh, Gino, oh, darn it. And now it's like, now it's Darnold and Gino's way down here. And I just feel like it's going to keep doing it probably for P. Carroll. Turn 74 on Monday. Bad, not a great six days. So maybe old coaches, maybe this isn't a good thing to have a coach in your mid-70s because you watch Carolina and Belichick and then P. Carroll, like maybe there's a shelf life, which we could have told people because we've watched it happen with our own dads.

Of course. And we get excited because they were 1 and 0, right? I mean, it would be your team. You didn't get too excited. But Carol's like chewing gum faster than you've ever seen before. I'm doing push-ups with the defensive line and stuff. Like, oh, this guy, he's 36. It doesn't matter.

But it's the team. I think you're right. Chanty maybe wasn't the right pick. It was a luxury pick for a team that was five, six players away. Yeah, that's it. That's exactly. You get that running back when you're a playoff team. You do it when you're the Chargers.

You take Hampton because you're close. have a lot of talent. Yeah. All right. We'll take a break. We'll do guest lines. All right, Cuzz, week four, you beat me first two weeks. I beat you last week.

Thursday night, Cahawks. It's in Arizona. Yes. And I think this is a good game. I'm actually, like, relatively excited to see what happens in this one. It would be a defensive affair. I have the, I put this in the Tic Tac Zone, Cardinals, by one and a half. Man, I put it in a Tick-Tac zone, too.

But I thought Seattle will be favored by one and a half. half. You actually nailed it. It's the Cardinals at home by one and a half. But I guess that makes sense because San Francisco couldn't pull off a three or two against them. I don't know. I think Arizona maybe slaps them around a little in a stupid game.

But I don't know. We have an Ireland game. Oh, you knew it. Well, I only knew it because the ringer fantasy guys are going there. So actually, we're doing some. shows, and that's how I found out. Yeah. You're writing a check, but then they get on a plane.

Reading a check so I can remember that there's an Ireland game. I was thinking today, I actually, I don't know if it wore me down, but now I kind of wish we had more 6.30 in the morning Pacific Games. Like, I could have used one today. I woke up, because I was telling, I was in Boston for a long time, and I came back, and I was just kind of up at 6.30. I'm like, I wish we were in London right now with the Jags and the Browns, just watching some terrible football. Can I, can I sell you on 7 a.m.? I know if there's overtime, it overlaps with the early and nobody wants that, but. Oh, to throw in, like, have a little

multi-view action? Well, just 7 a.m. and not 6.30. Like 6.30, I feel like a degenerate, like a bad father and husband and everything else. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know. Seven's okay. You can sell me on seven. Okay, let's do that. I have Steelers and a pick-um. I have this as an actual pick-um. Steelers, pick-um, Vikings.

I don't know who gets it. I guess you do. I said Steelers minus two. Yeah. It's Vikings minus one and a half. Oh, great. That was really well-played by me. I don't know.

I guess that's right. I don't know, man. Rogers. McCarthy'll be out, right? From what I saw today from that Steelers team, this should be a nice matchup for the Vikings defense, but who knows? Sunday Marquis

Ravens Chiefs in Kansas City. It's sad to make the Casey, we keep complaining about how we're tired of watching them, and yet they're clearly the marquee game in this. This would be a good game. Right. I have the Ravens favorite in this game. And I have the Ravens favored by two and a half.

Oh, come on. Is this how it's going to be? I said two, and I thought I was a genius. I'm like, oh, people are going to say, Bill's going to say Kansas City's favorite. It's three. So you get it. Jesus. They love Fandle, Vegas.

They love the Ravens. Love the power ranking. It's tough when the Chiefs are trotting out, two guys, the Pat's wave as they're starting receivers. Like, it just is. It's like, they're their starting receivers, Jujer Smith-Schuster and Taekwine Thornton. It's like, everyone said how terrible our receivers were.

We weigh both of those guys. It's not great. Yeah, they're chiefs. Well, if the Ravens give up 35, 40 to Detroit, I don't think they will tomorrow. And then we'll know that's pretty much their defense, right? Yeah. Two of good teams are doing that to them.

But I think it's a fair line. I have four watchables, starting with the Eagles at Tampa. And so we have, Mike Evans has had his annual hamstring injury, which in our league that weren't together, the knockout league. I, of course, have Mike Evans, who always goes $10 less than he should because nobody wants to have him when he has the injury and he's gone for four weeks. But then the price hit a point where I was like, I'm just taking him. I'll get 10 good weeks out of him. Well, the hamstring injury happened. He'll get to a thousand yards.

He always does. Even if he needs 880. playoffs. Worf's is coming back and apparently Godwin's coming back too and oh we kind of forgot to talk about that game which is my fault. Tampa has now had three game winning drives

and three and no with three game winning drives and he's so exciting. He is so damn exciting Baker. He's great he is and I didn't even think Tyrod Taylor was bad like he threw a costly pick six with 20 seconds left in the half and that

ended up being the difference. But I think like bowls kind of screwed up and let the Jets back in it. And then their guy was the only one to make a field goal in that early slot and they won. I think he's become my favorite non-patriots QB to watch. Because they always, you know, he's, it's always exciting.

The other team's always dropping interceptions that he's throwing them or he'll make some great play. He'll start talking shit to people. At the end of games, you always feel like he can come through. I don't know. I think he makes sense on that team, too. Well, not that he needs a, everyone needs a nickname,

but he's like a 1 PM savior, right? Like, he's always alive in the fourth quarter. King of the multi-view. Yeah, right. Just that early slate that normally sucks. You know, you can count on him. Yeah. So I have Eagles minus two and a half.

All right. I got to make a comeback here. I don't know if I can. I said Eagles one. That was dumb. It's three. Hmm. Two, three and O,

teams. Let's do it. Also, two minus threes. We haven't had a lot of those in guest lines. Falcons home for Washington. No idea of Jaden Daniels is playing. I think the Falcons are going to be one of these teams that there's the home Falcons line and then there's the road Falcons line. We don't have a lot of these.

I have Falcons minus one and a half. Man, I could have stole this from you, but my guess was even worse. I said Falcons minus two and a half. It's Washington minus three. Whoa. Okay. And you're 5 and O. I guess it's two and a half now.

Either way, you get it. Wow. What do you think the reason is for that? I don't know. And it's this is Marriota. Just because the Falcons were so bad? Yes. But no, but it's Marietta though, unless we hear differently.

So they must think Daniels is coming back. I, like, you know, Washington, I guess they had that game in hand, but they gave up some big plays, too. like Trey Tucker still scoring 50-yard touchdown as we speak yeah that's a weird one well we have three home dogs already just pointing that out rams rams home for the Colts I really wanted to do Rams by three on this but I think the Colts get a half point of respect so I want Rams minus two and a half okay I got this exactly it's three and a half hmm not a lot of respect for that I wish I wasn't so

so angry at the ramps because this would be, I would be all over this. I might still, but I don't know. I don't know if I can forgive. I don't know. I know we talk about this every year, but the worst game being beat of all time was the Music City Miracle. I think we decided this like 10 years ago. Yeah.

That was number one because it was a playoff game. Right. Yeah. It not only swung it, but it also swung the line. Wasn't it? It was like Buffalo by five or something. Right, right, right. Yeah.

So that not only they lose, but Yeah, I don't think the miracle, I think it was an LA miracle that I didn't have money on it here at my home. I think that's why I didn't hurt as much. Niners, Jaguars. So I assume Brock Purdy, but the Niners have had a bunch of injuries. And I don't know why I went low on this,

but it felt the right thing to do, Niners minus three and a half. Oh, you jerk. I thought you were going to go even lower. I said four. It is three and a half. Oh, man. This is a good sign for my gambling when I'm on it with the lines.

Good for you. Maybe I'm finally having my shit together. That's a fair line because there's backdoor touchdown potential with the Jags. The stupid Jags could have been three and O. Like, how do they blow that Bengals game? Kind of dumb. Fairly watchables. Lions home for the Browns.

And I just don't think the Browns can be a double-digit underdog anymore. So I went nine and a half for this. That was as high as I wanted to go. Wow, you are just edging me out. I thought they could be a double-digit underdog. I had 10, and it's eight and a half. Yeah. You got it.

Their defense is too good. I don't think you can spot them that many points. But if Detroit loses, this can't be a game that they, screw around. That's right. If they lose tomorrow. This is all right. Well,

we'll talk. We'll talk turkey and teasers. We always try not to overreact after three weeks. But that Brown's team seems like, I was written some of the quotes after. It's kind of an adult team. It's weird. Like Flacko was talking about we went all week.

We just talked about playing complimentary football, complimentary football. Adult team. For three hours, we played complimentary football, and that's why we won. It's like, wow, that's an adult explanation. Joe Flacco. But, yeah, they play defense.

They don't beat themselves. They can run the ball a little bit with Judkins now. Their offensive line's okay. Oh, my God. They have a couple half decent receivers, and they get stops on defense. Like, they've done this now. They held the Bengals to 17 with Burrow. I can't believe this.

I'm just saying. They held the Bengals to 17. They could have been shut out today. And they held the Packers to 10. Yeah, that I saw. Yeah. Yeah, the defense is good. I don't know.

I just, like I said, Flacco's thrown a hundred times and they end up with like 17 points at the end. I'm not defending that. Okay. Here's the, let's be careful out there, game of the week.

Chargers at the Giants. Mm-hmm. After what we saw today, I don't see how this isn't at least chargers by six. And I'm going to say chargers by six and a half at the Giants. Oh, good. Okay. You left the door open there.

I said five, it's five and a half. Hmm. Vegas owned us. I'm not, yeah, three and over, zone three. I don't know. It's only an hour

since we saw how miserable they were, but this is not, if this game was like December 2nd, I'm like, oh, the charges are going to get tripped up. Yeah. I don't have that feeling right now with them. What do we call week four

is the makeup mirror week? The makeup mirror? Yeah, well, you know those mirrors that our wives have when you turn the light on and you can see all the, all the things on your face,

just everything. It's like the crazy microscope view of your face. This is it. Yeah. Like week four, you kind of know, we kind of know

what the weaknesses are. It's the cooler mile, yeah. With the Chargers, Hampton, really they're only running back now that Harris is out. Offensive line,

just shake enough that the Giants could probably pressure Herbert and do some stuff. Chargers on the road. This is a game that Chargers should win, but it's very similar

to that Packers Browns game. Right. It's like, oh, if you're a really good team, you should win this. And then you don't. So I think Russ is, if that defense plays like they did against who they play on Monday night last week. What was that? They played the Raiders. I don't know.

I don't think Russ is going to be able to move this ball too much. Do we see Russ? You think this is where they switch it, huh? I would do it. I thought when Dart came in for those little option stuff, they were immediately more dangerous for me. Yeah. Because of his auticism. I would do it.

I would just, I don't know what they're waiting for. The fans are booing because they drafted a number of, you know, they have the first round or the quarterback. Like, no, they're booing because they're New York. This is New York. Yeah, this is what they're doing. Yeah. Oh, Mike, he came right in.

He made friends with everybody. See, he loves being on the practice squad. They just love Jackson Dart. He might have set a pass rush record today, tonight. I think I heard 25 when I wasn't in. Well, I like they had that all 22 camera. Yeah. And they were showing how Abdul Carter was like combo spy assassin.

That's great. Where he was like kind of rushing but also ready to be the spy. I've never seen a defensive lineman used that way. It was really interesting how they used it because usually that's just like a pure linebacker. Now I want to look for defensive rookie of the year. They might not have it up. He's a beast. It's right there.

That kid in the Niners has a chance too. What are the odds for defensive rookie of the year? I'm not seeing it now. They only have offensive up right now. Hmm Yeah, they took it down because they knew we were going to talk about it. Next one.

Texans Titans. I can honestly say I might skip this for the multi-view or even like any TV next week. No, you're going to have too much money on them. You can't skip this. On money on who? I'm not bad in this game.

On the Texans. No. This is their season. That's it. They're a cross-off. Oh, for the division. That's, yeah. Yeah.

It's in Houston. I'm going to say Texans by five and a half. All right. I get this. I said six and a half. It is seven and a half. Do you have a chance? That's seven three,

you're winning. Come on. Who's laying that many points for the team that can't run the ball or score? Well, you get a free six with Cam. I guess they are going against Tommy Boy. Right.

Tommy Boy. New guy's puking his guts out. Fat guy with a little. Don't do it, Tommy boy. The Titans need you. Raiders Bears. Wow. Somebody's favorite by one and a half.

Where is this? I'm going to say, it's in Vegas. I'm going to say Vegas by one and a half. Damn, you got it. You got it. I said two. One and a half? Vegas, exactly.

One and a half. both one and two kind of a kitchen sink game for the Raiders someone's going to win and people are going to talk about the winner being in the playoff contention can we write that down that we're not going to be that one of those people yeah let's not do that

yeah I do have something speaking of the Raiders and Tom Brady because I had Tom Brady for a decent chunk of the game because he was doing one of the late games. J.J. Watt was so much better than him as an announcer. J.J. Watt was fucking fantastic. Have you actually listened to one of his games?

That was the first time I'd heard because he did Steward's Pats. Yeah, he was just awesome. Like he was laying out, he was immediately picking out whatever it happened on the line for every single play. Whatever happened, he was like, well, you know, they missed that, but the right tackle missed it, and that line. and they didn't chip him. But it was all, like, very accessible.

He's not that funny. There's not, like, a massive sense of humor with him. So Ion Eagle was really working hard because he's a funny guy. Yeah. And I think he can start pulling it out more and more. But from observation analysis, he was lights out. I had a fake mustache. That's how much the comedy was lacking.

He had this crazy. I don't know if he saw this. Well, that was because it was 70s throwback, man. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. So that's where it was. But, no, he was. Excellent.

He doesn't take himself seriously, right? No. But he speaks on our level. He's good. Because I was, as a Pat's fan, I'm like, great. We got JJ Watt, his brother's out there. We're going to have to do this brother thing. But he kind of really went against it.

There was only one time when T.J. Wock had held on a fourth down. And he's like, oh, they got away with a hold. I don't know how he saw it from the booth. And then they do the all 22. And it's like clearly gets hold. But he's just, he was seeing everything. And I just, I thought he really helped me enjoy the game.

Like, I learned shit from him. Yeah. So, kudos to him. That's good. Well, you're learning. Yeah. Who's your, who's your, Buck and Aikman are the number one right now, right? Well, you're biased.

You're friends of it. Yeah, you got to stay out of it. He's got like a five-foot stand-up right behind him. I know. This is a bad topic for you. Yeah. But Eagle and Watt is in the conversation now. Yeah.

Yeah. Collinsworth, Tarika, I really like. They're all good. I don't think we had five good teams. Greg Olson's good. Yeah. We have at least five now. Olson's very good. Yeah. And Brady, it's okay. I just feel like him and Burkhardt, it's not, something's missing and I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the fact that Brady's doing 17 other things.

I feel like he's going to grow on me. Eventually, I'm going to be like, yeah, this is good. Yeah, I think so. I just, you and I've seen some long-form stuff with him. Like, that was a 30-for-30 on the tuck rule. He was great. I mean, yeah. I mean, the more time he has, the better he is. Yeah, I mean, that's fine.

One thing I've noticed with him, because I don't think he's bad. I do think he brings some stuff to the table. But a lot of times he's better coming out of the timeout when they can go with like a big wide shot of the play. And he's like, watch what. And he'll like actually like really lay it out. I think he has problem in the moment when a play like dissecting it immediately. But when he has a little time, he's really good.

Coach Tommy Boy has the exact opposite problem. bad coming out of the timeout. To lay a game, lights out every other, everywhere else. He was doing the Chris Ferlick. Oh, God, damn. Holy Schnecky! How did I do that?

We turned it over again. Poop Fecta. Bill's Saints. Yanks. Saints were just, wow. Bill's a favorite. I'll give you a hint. I'll give you a clue there.

Saints in pole position now is the worst team in the league. Yeah. So it's either 14 or 14 and a half. We haven't seen a line this high. And I kept it at 14 because of the bill's defense. So I've built by 14. You're going to love this. No, it has to be higher because they were 12 and a half against the dolphins.

At least they have a pulse. I said 15.5. It's 16.5. That's a good number. That's a good number. Holy moly. So let me read this to you. Spencer Rattler is 0 and 9 now as a starter.

Has anyone gone 0 in 10? There are two guys who have been 0 and 15. So he's got a little ways to go. Who are the two guys? You want to guess or is it to? This had to be from when we were kids. No, definitely since we were one of them, we gave a pretty good nickname to. Oh, it was Kaiser, Kaiser Soze.

Yeah, that's the one. Deshaun Kaiser Sozzi was 015. And Chris Wanky's the other one. He was before. Chris Wanky. Yeah. He went 0 and 15? I didn't know he had that many starts in him.

I guess he did, right? Honestly, if you told me over under for Chris Wanky starts, I would guess like seven. Yeah. Oh, and 15. So did he ever get a win or no? Can Rattler get there? That I didn't look up. I just, how, I got to look this up now.

How did Chris Winky? Where was I? I feel like we've been doing. You had skipped those two years. I feel like we were even doing pods back then. We knew each other then. We did? he's wrapped in 2001

but then he started in 06 and 07 all right so he finished 2 and 18 as a starter and he lasted like five seasons yeah he was gone for three and then came back then the other one was Kaiser yeah I mean 15's a lot man he never had a win

oh 15 career he didn't get there really oh he's got to come back 0 and 15 when the 2017 Browns and then played three more games off the bench for the Packers but didn't start Oh I mean the Cowboys will start him right Maybe could take a backseat for one game right

His quarterback rating was 60 and a half 58.9 for his career He had 11 touchdowns and 22 picks in 2017 and then another two picks in 2018. So he finished with 11 touchdowns and 24 picks. That's pretty good.

Yeah, we loved it. We loved it when it moves in. I think we were making money betting against them. We must have, right? We actually were. I remember, yeah, we don't have a Kaiser. So maybe Radler could be the new Kaiser Jose. Will they leave them in long enough, right? Who's knocking on

his door? Hainer and Nobody. Like Tyler Shuck? Yeah. Tyler Shuck. Yeah. I think they can maybe give them that many starts. Good luck, Spencer. My other poop fact, the Patriots home again for the Panthers. This is a loser leaves town match. And it might just be two losers. I have the Patriots favorite by three. Let me see if this changed. Patriots are home, right? Yeah. Four and a half. I had three also. You said three? You said three. We both got it. So I won for the week.

Is that it? I had a big lead for you Oh shit Yeah, it's over It's over No, Green Big Dallas There's two more Two Monday

Oh there's two Monday If you didn't see You should get docked four games Not knowing there were two Monday What was the other Monday game Oh, since he never Oh that got cut off my thing Yeah

I had a guess for that You're gonna win anyway You got it anyway Nine to five Damn Jacoby Jukobo Mojo back Your number one fan

Okay, Sunday night. Packers at Cowboys, the Michael Parsons game. Jerry Jones, who's his interview with, you think? Dungey. Who does he sit down with? What NBC person? Ray Taylor? Let him sit down with the clapper.

Doesn't that make the most sense? Clapper? They deserve each other at this point. I was watching college football on Saturday, and there was like a weather delay in the Notre Dame game, and Jason Garrett had to fill for like, I don't know, 10 minutes. it's the second time because that also happened

in the NFL. I was trying to think who's less equipped to be able to fill. Yeah. The clapper are trying to be the filler. Oh,

they shouldn't do that anymore. If there's even a threat of a 2% chance of precipitation, they should get him the hell out of there. Or just like queue up Seinfeld or something.

Be like, we now bring you to a classic season four Seinfeld. Packers. He just sings the Indiana Jones song over on a loop. I have the Packers.

by five in Dallas? We split it. I said six, and I think it should be higher. It's five and a half. I mean, congratulations. There's your second leg of a teaser.

I don't know who's first. That's such a winner. Well, we're going to have, it's going to be a Jordan Love referendum for the next couple days on the talk shows. And then he has the Dallas defense

waiting for him. He does. And Micah is going to end Dak's career, all that stuff. Yeah. Oh, this is going to be a fun week. Monday night.

Dolphins, home for the Jets. Unbelievable. The dolphins stink, and they're going to be favored in this game. Yeah. And not anything would be favored. I think they'd be favored by two and a half. You got it exactly.

I said three. It's two and a half. Wow. I'm on it this week. I'm going to open up on the betting this week. I think I have a comeback this week. You really did a great job. Never cheat.

Manipulating these, yeah. They're doing the thing Like last week They did the Mondays One was at four One was at seven on the West Coast Now they're like screw that You're going to have to watch both

One's at 715 One's at 815 Eastern I like that more Yeah I thought the two in a row On Monday day was a little much The other one's too late Yeah

Yeah it was just come on So I just did 10 hours on Sunday Now I got to do another six on Monday Right Bring him a little closer I mean who did it Was Chris Fowler at laryngitis?

Like, that's how it's how was Reese Davis or Chris Fowler? Are they the same person? Chris Fowler did it. Chris Fowler. I'm like just all the time.

And then Broncos Bengals in Denver, Jake Browning. And yet Denver, I just don't think they could be favored by more than like four and a half. So I'm going to go four and a half.

Yeah, I went even lower. I said four. Seven and a half. Oh, come on. yeah i mean but that's also they they can't lose that game though they got a that they just he we just saw what jake the snake did against a good defense so i forgot that we were calling him jake the snake yeah all right we're tied two to two damn damn that's not fun today's parent corner is brought

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And the kids, my kids, I think they felt weird approaching him at first. And my middle guy, Jack, who is a junior in high school, breaks the ice and says in his deadpan way, says, hey, some kids at school say it's not right, what happened to you. And then just leaves it there. Like, I'm really like, and Jimmy says, well, what did you say? He's like, I said, yeah, I think you're right. And Jimmy's like, well, next time tell them, I'm not. too worried about what happens. My cousin Jimmy

is an excellent dancer. And Jack was stonefaced taking it in and nodded like, okay. And I guarantee tomorrow he's going to take this literally and say this to high schoolers. There's no doubt. I guarantee it. So there you go.

He's an excellent dancer. Were your kids they're getting this in school? Yeah. Yeah, they're getting this. Because my kids were getting it and your kids are actually related to Jimmy. Yeah, right. Yeah.

And they're younger. I mean, you know, it's just a quick act. That's all I have to say right now. I can't really say anything. You and I know too much. Yeah, we both know too much. Yeah, we both know too much. And we not only our cousin, but all the people working for the show.

And it's better if we're not talking about this in any way. When I can, I will. I think you wrapped it up pretty well the other day. I didn't listen, but someone told me what you said didn't sound too stupid. it so good. Didn't listen? That hurt. No, I listen.

I listen. No, it's good. That's good. I hope it works out. Wouldn't that be nice? I hope it has a nice, nice, happy ending in some, in some fashion. We'll see. Yeah, we'd probably talk about it more if we knew what was going to happen.

And I think, you know, we're too far under the hood in this one. So it's better that we don't really talk about it. So my mom has really taken it up a level with the texts and just sends me these random ones, including one on Monday, where she's asked me at the weekend and then texted about the podcast, watching you and Sal, what happened to your right eye? Oh, no. And I'm like, I don't know, I'm in Boston. My contacts, like she's like, looked like your eyelid was bruised in the inside corner and I was bloodshot.

Thought carry through another shoe at you. So this is a story when my wife and I were living together in Boston where we weren't even engaged. I lived in this apartment where we put all our stairs and you walked in the door and we put all our stairs at the bottom. And then you would, this is when I lived in Charlestown, and then you would walk up the stairs to where the room was.

So my wife was up ahead of me. We'd just go out to dinner and had a couple of drinks. And she didn't realize I was behind her. And she was taking off her shoes. And she whipped the shoe back, but I was actually coming around the corner of the thing. And she nailed me in the eye. And my mom has been bringing this up now for 27 years.

It was like a domestic violence incident. Carrier, like she's, I don't think she's ever really fully believed the story. Yeah, I think she's waiting for you to break down and tell her the truth one day. It's like, well, you know, remember that time? Well, here's what actually happened. And this is really what happened. It was, she's at top of the stairs. She was kicked off or she kicked it down. And it just like nailed me in the eye. And I think my mom's brought it up once a year ever since. So somehow it again, it came up. And she also has had a lot of thoughts about our cousin that I'm not going to, about the treatment that I'm not going to read in. But she's been

weighing it a lot on text lately. She thinks other people should get kicked in the eye. Yeah. I think the texting with our moms, you know, with the technology was dicey there for a while, right? And then they started to go on Facebook. Your mom was big on Facebook. My mom is more of a reader of Facebook. And the text were always like incoherent, misspellings. But now they're just like very direct. Like, what's going on with this? Or like some crazy comment or Bill Marr's dead to me or like just like just very direct stuff. And I've really enjoyed her text. Do you get a lot of AI? I'm getting a ton of AI stuff from my mother. Like look at this. Like what? I just end just videos that are clearly not. Some of them are tough to distinguish. But it'll be like Jimmy talking and like

no, he hasn't said anything about this. What do you what? Come on. Stop. But yeah, that that part could there was a great Belichick whatever her name is video yesterday. Jordan. Well, because there was video of her going on the sidelines talking right. So of course all my past fans were

just like, wow, could this be going worse? Yeah. Like this is the greatest NFL coach of all time. This has been the most humiliating year ever. He's getting his ass kicked in these games. He's got this 25 year old coming on the sidelines when he's trying to coach. Like how did he

get to this point. But there was this AI thing where they're talking and then all of a sudden they start making out. And I actually believed it for a split second. I was like, oh my God, what's he doing? And then I was like, oh, this is AI. They got me. But we're going to hit a point where it has to say AI in the corner, right? It would have to start to put like, it has to be like watermarked AI. Because it's too easy now to fake this stuff. Right, right, right. Yeah, I want to see one of of Jordan kicking her heels off and one hitting Bill in the eye and the other bill, Belichick.

Let's see what that looks like. My mom's still investigating this. It's like a Dateline NBC. So what did you say to her with that particular comment? I think I'm old and I slept wrong. I don't know. I don't know what happened.

It was like there was nothing. No, Karen didn't throw another shoe at me. I'm fine. Anyway, that is Parenthooder, brought to you by Scout Motors. join the wait list for the scout terran scout traveler at scout motors.com. Concept vehicles, not available for sale features and performance specifications or preliminary subject to change.

Joining the wait list does not guarantee purchase. Visit scout motors.com for details. So yeah, it should be an interesting week ahead. Yeah. We'll see how it goes. I wish I could say anything. There are a couple bombshells still there. I'm feeling good.

We're going to be all right. Everything's going to be just fine. I think we'll be fine. You know, I'm not betting against our cousin. Yeah. He'll be fine. Whatever he wants to do. Hey, listen, he might just want to be a pop-up chef

to start making a barbecue around the South Bay area. He'll do a great job. Be happy. Yeah. He'll be fine. Anything you want to plug before we go? Yeah. Bring her gambling show all week long.

You catch me with Tate on Tuesday. You can catch me house. to Bundo on Wednesday, and then I'm with the Bundo and High Fitz on Friday, and Ryan Fitzpatrick will join us as well on Friday. So that's going to be fun. I zoomed into that Wednesday show with you in DeBundon House. I was power walking around Boston and I was outraged. I just jackpatched me and all of a sudden I was on the show. The Bundo wouldn't, he passed on the Thursday night game. We spent 10 minutes preview in the Thursday night game and he passed on him. You can't pass on the one game, right? He's on a gambling show where you have to

give picks. You were worked up. You had that busted eye and everything. You were walking the streets to Boston. Carrey just hit me with a shoe. It was like, nice working with you at the Bundo. I think you have to make picks on these gambling shows. Yeah, pretty sure. It's the games tomorrow night. It's the only NFL game with like a pick.

He wouldn't even do the over for the Miami total. That's what I did. That was my I didn't have a lean on it either. Yeah. Anyway. Also, I want to say sports book Consigliary, David Chiarapen passed away this weekend. He was a really good

dude. He was a fan of ours. He's, um, you know, I'm not going to pretend to be his best friend, but I'd see him in Vegas in front of and behind the counter, worked at various sports books. We shoot the shit. Um, super nice fella. And one of the few of, maybe the only sports gambler who seemed to be loved by everyone. Is there a sports gambler that's loved by everyone? I don't think, I think that's harder to, than a three-team teaser. I don't think you could do that. I certainly can't think of one. No. He's the only one. No, he's gone. Rest and parley, Dave. You know, the only other thing I had for you before we go,

I haven't won our fantasy football league since 2008. What are you, 3-0 or something? No. I just like my team this year. I just, I feel like I feel like I might have something this year with my team. Let me see.

We're going to double deuce. All right, so you're going to win by, You're going to beat Hench this week? Yeah, I have the Caleb Williams, Baker-Mayfield QB combo, James Cook. I had the two pets running back. So the Ramonjo is about to get waves, so that'll be Trayvon Henderson going forward.

I have this Ollie Gordon on Miami in Woody Marks and Houston. I feel like one of those is going to come on. Nico Collins, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill. I have Brock Bowers and Tucker Craft. Not bad. That's good. I have I Amah and Booty and. and Dobbs.

Right. And then Braylen Allen and the Jets. I feel like I'm going to get lucky. I have all my fab left. I just kind of like my team this year. I like my quarterbacks. I feel like I'm going to, I feel like I can make a run.

I mean, you're definitely going to lose this week. Now that you talk them up, you have a 37 point lead going up against Gibbs and Leporta. But, uh, yeah, I feel pretty good about that. 37.4 point lead. And then your team has, what do you have?

I have a 21. A. Chan and Jacobs. Jefferson, McLaurin, Garrett Wilson. Yeah, my team's way better than yours. What? Yeah. I've Kenneth Walker on my bench. I'll figure it out.

Yeah, I'm going to lose. You have Shakir? Yeah. Who's the number on pick if we're doing a fantasy draft right now? Jonathan Taylor, I think, right? Is it? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think you're right.

He's got monster numbers here. I don't know. Are you, how many, aren't we in like seven leagues? I can't even. Well, we're doing this guillotine league, which has been, that's been really fun. Right. I'm in, uh, I'm in two guillotine leagues and two knockout leagues, then the ringer fantasy league that I think I'm going to be in last place for. Oh, you are? And we had a draft punishments. What was your punishment? I can't, it wasn't anything that bad. One of them was like no coffee for a week and you like almost started crying when you saw that. Yeah, I wouldn't be able to.

to do that. That would have been really tough. I think mine was curious to throw a shoe of Vegas. I wish I'd have known that story. My mom chases it down for 27 years. We definitely put that up there. I shouldn't take a video of the stairway, like, reenact it. What happened?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it wasn't great. Anyway, all right, Cuss, as always, especially this week. Good job by you. Good job by you, buddy. Thanks to Eduardo and Gahua as well. Don't forget, new rewatchables coming Monday. We did airplane, Sal.

Oh, really? Yeah, airplane. And then Prestige TV task on HBO episode three just broke that down. Yeah, surely can't be serious. All right, see you next week, Sal. See you, Bob. Must be 21 plus of President Selects, States for Kansas and affiliate. with Kansas Star Casino or 18 plus in President D.C., Kentucky, or Wyoming.

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