The Bill Simmons Podcast - Bills vs. Steelers, Hurts vs. Wentz, Tua vs. Mahomes, and the First Puppy Weekend With Cousin Sal

Episode Date: December 14, 2020

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss the Bills' win over the Steelers that shook up the AFC playoffs standings, the Chiefs' win over the Dolphins, Cardinals-Giants, Saints-Eagles, Philadelphia's QB situation, Falcons-Chargers, Texans-Bears, cross-off teams, and more (2:00). Then they Guess the Lines for Week 15 (53:00) and close the show with Parent Corner (1:18:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It was a pretty lousy football day for the most part in terms of a high caliber of competition. So we had our hopes set on this game. Yeah. And there was competition for about a half And then everything swings On a pick six For Ben Roethlisberger

So we're watching the Steelers team this whole year Going well We'll see with this guy he looks old He has one or two passes a game We were like uh oh I don't know if that's going to work in January And we saw it not work today right I thought so, too.

It was so strange. It really was two games because in that second half, then you got Josh Allen, who everyone's sending to Canton, Ohio, was like 11 for his first 11 in the second half and really just did whatever he wanted, much like he did to San Francisco Monday night, last Monday night. I was shocked at this, honestly. Not shocked, but I was very surprised.

I like the Steelers. I told you that. You're like, does this look too told you that you're like, does this look too easy? Sorry. You said, does this look too easy? And I said, uh, I think it does look too easy. Yeah, I know. I know you did. I was like, yeah, I think it does look too easy.

I think everyone's overreacting to Monday night and the Steelers showed up for a half and their offense didn't even really show up for that. Still a bunch of drops. They're even like trying to run the offense around a drop free situation where, you know, that pass right off the snap where the guy's not, he's not even moving the receiver,

but he'll still drop it. Like, I don't know that that team's got, got some work to do. I did not like a lot this week, which didn't stop me from, from doing a few bets. And the only one I really liked was Buffalo all week.

And I kept waiting for the line to go to three and it never did. And it stayed at two that that's when I was texting. I was like, I can't figure this out. I love Buffalo. And then, you know, halfway through the second quarter, I'm like, Oh my God. Now I know why the line never moved. But I just thought Pittsburgh, we, I laid out the case on Thursday, too many injuries on defense and they can't run the ball.

And at some point, now we're in mid-December, I didn't like the balance at all. They tried to cheat it with, you know, they're throwing the ball a little more than usual on a couple of those drives, things like that. But I kind of thought Buffalo was for real before this game. And now, I remember, I looked at the odds right before, probably two hours before, they're seven 50 to win the AFC.

The chiefs were minus one 35 and the Steelers were something like two and a half to one. Now I don't know if that they'll probably change those by tomorrow on the bills. I'm sure we'll climb up, but I think the bills are the only team that can be Casey and in the AFC. And I don't know if they will, but they can at least move the ball.

They can at least have, they can have a 12 play drive. They can have a four play drive in 90 seconds. Right. And their defense isn't great, but it, it does have a knack for making plays every once in a while. And then, as you said, everyone's putting Josh Allen and can, but he, he is streaky. Like he, he'll have, he'll be good for an hour where you're like, oh my God, is this

guy the best guy in the AFC? He looks damn good. I don't want to make excuses. The Steelers defense seems to lose someone different every week. They had two of their best defenders out, right? And then they lost like Spillane. That kid was playing great for them. And it's three games in 11 days or something.

So again, I don't want to make excuses, but because they can't run the ball and that's what you kind of have to do in January, unless you're the Kansas city chiefs to compete. But like you said, at least the bills know that if it comes down to two versus three, that they could beat Pittsburgh, right before they go to Kansas city, who I'm sure we'll get to it.

Looks like they have their hands full every single week now, no matter who they play. Yeah. The Buffalo Brian day ball, who a lot of people have been praising all year. And this is another example of Buffalo can kind of change what they're doing. Midstream during the game, you know, and they started, they figured out how to get digs open in space as this game went along. And then Pittsburgh's just sending the house at Allen. Right. Cause I think they must've looked at that Rams game. Cause remember the Rams really in the second half when they had that big comeback and they were just sending the house after Allen every play and that weird face mask penalty and all that other stuff. And they must've said like, we can get to this guy and Buffalo, they figured it out. And Diggs came alive. Stefan Diggs came alive at half, right? I mean, that was, that was just a monster performance. I don't even know

what he, whatever he ended up with was probably not going to look, um, impressive numbers wise to how he controlled the game. You know, um, he's devastating when he's by himself on one side and they can just figure out either a little quick screen. Yeah. He can also beat the guy almost like in basketball. Like he can beat the guy off the dribble or he could just blow by the guy. Then catches 10 catches, 130 yards. And then they added 104 on the ground. So that,

I mean, that's, that's going to win most games and let alone against this Pittsburgh team. I can't run at all, but here's my question. So if Ben doesn't throw that pick and we head in a half time, Pittsburgh seven, nothing.

Yeah. It's seven, nothing heading into halftime, Pittsburgh 7-0. Yeah. It's 7-0 heading into halftime. The stakes become way different for Buffalo. Right. And now it's like, Alan, you just,

what happened? Well, no, it was 7-3, right? Or 7-3. Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry, 7-3. Right. So if they go into halftime and they have to play for behind,

they have to think about it, all that stuff. Yeah, sure. It felt like as soon as they got that pick six, I was like, they're going to win about it, all that stuff. Yeah, sure. It felt like as soon as they got that pick six, I was like, they're going to win. Yeah, that changed it. And I don't know.

I battled with Damoshek and some others. It was like, no, no, no, Ben is slinging it. I'm like, nah, I think he's got, I think he's taking something off his throw, right? It doesn't seem like some of these routes at least seem jumpable at the very least. I don't think physically, you know, obviously he's not where he was in his prime, at least seem jumpable at the very least. I don't think physically, I,

you know, obviously he's not where he was in his prime, but I think it's even probably a little bit worse than that. Cause if you think about it, they're very protective of him. Like they don't QB sneak him at all. He doesn't try to scramble and keep plays alive the way that he used to, where guys are,

you know, banging off him left and right. He's getting rid of the ball. It seems like a little bit faster. And it seems like they're kind of trying ball. It seems like a little bit faster. And it seems like they're kind of trying to get him to mid-January basically intact. You know, it's weird with him because he always had that look

where he threw kind of off his back foot and he had success doing it. So now he's doing it now and he's not having success, but it has the look of a quarterback who is kind of in the late stages of his career. It's like our friend Brad. Like, Oh my God, look at his eyes. Has he been doing something? It's like, no, no, no. He always looks like that.

It's just Brad. Yeah. That's just how it is, but you can't really compare it like that. But, uh, this is a, this is a tough run for Pittsburgh though, because that Washington game, you know, a huge upset, no question. But I also felt like Washington played pretty well and kind of went toe to toe with them. Yeah. It was not like a fluky game where it's like, Oh, they didn't see Washington coming. It's like, no question. But I also felt like Washington played pretty well and kind of went toe to toe with them. Yeah. It was not like a fluky game where it's like, oh, they didn't see Washington coming. It's like, no, they, they actually like, we're trying to win that game and Washington just played pretty well. Um, and in general, I think the last five, six weeks,

they just haven't looked like the same team. They've had, you know, real injuries and they can't run the ball. They can't. So I don't know how they fix that. It's weird. I, the Patriots were in this situation a couple of times over the years. We look at these other teams and you're like, that team has five running backs. Right. And we don't even have one like, like today, Miami, they got, they brought that guy Bowden who they was the discarded Raiders draft pick, where they just decided this guy's too hot to handle. And they just cut him. And that hot to handle and they just cut him and that guy had three or four really good plays in that chiefs game day he's like their fifth string guy the steelers don't have that like random where'd this guy come from guy for whatever reason but

they always have met receiver but not a running back well boden didn't run i mean he ran he carried like once i think no but i mean he's making plays though yeah he had seven receptions yeah yeah he was good That team was down a lot of players too, and they went toe-to-toe with Kansas City. Well, the big thing coming out of this game, Casey is now the one seed. Yeah. So this is just a

phenomenal last hundred hours for Casey. Right. Where you feel like you're probably headed for the two seed because of Pittsburgh schedule. Maybe they lose the Buffalo game. That's it. All of a sudden, Pittsburgh loses twice in five days. Now, KC has locked down the one seed,

unless they screw it up, which we'll talk about them in a second. There's an interesting Buffalo piece to this now. Buffalo's 10-3. Pittsburgh's 11-2. Pittsburgh is at Cincinnati next week. Home Indy, home Cleveland. Week 17 in a game that's really going to mean something for Cleveland.

Buffalo's at Denver, at New England, home Miami. There's a world in which Buffalo finishes 13-3 and Pittsburgh-Cleveland knocks them out. All of a sudden, Pittsburgh's the three seed. Oh, sure. Well, they only have to end up tied, right? Because obviously they won tonight. They got the tiebreaker. The only thing is it doesn't matter as much as it used to because

it's only the one buy this year. Right. And what's ironic is I think Kansas City, I mean, nobody wants to play that first week, but if Kansas City didn't have the buy, would you, odds wise, I wouldn't put them at a much of a disadvantage playing three weeks. Whereas I feel like Pittsburgh needs the buy. Yes. Buffalo could use the buy teams like that could definitely use it. But yeah, I don't think Pittsburgh's got,

I mean, they'll beat Cincinnati this week, but I don't think they're catching the chiefs at this point. Also the wild cards in the AFC. Colts are the best culture. So they're the best wild card. But you have Cleveland That's 9-3

And then Miami Who went toe-to-toe With the Right With the Chiefs today And then you have Baltimore Still kind of hanging around They're playing tomorrow night

They're 7-5 But They've had some bloodbaths With Pittsburgh over the years So If Pittsburgh is 2 That could be Miami That could be the

The Mink of Fitzpatrick revenge game. I don't know what side the revenge would be or Baltimore team that, you know, that game's going to be close. I don't care who's on what side. Baltimore loses to, I mean, I know they're not out of it,

but we can almost name the seven teams in the playoffs. If Baltimore loses tomorrow, right. Or they, I think where my, I don't think Baltimore, I don't think Baltimore. I don't think Baltimore can lose again.

Right. I think it's going to be. It looks like 11 and five, maybe 10 and six, but probably 11 and five for the wildcard. Because you figure. The Dolphins would really

have to fall apart. I guess they, well, they play at Buffalo in week 17. They have some tough games. They have the tough games. Your Patriots are now in spoiler road and roll, right? No, it's worse than that.

The Pats are 6-7 and somehow not eliminated yet. Just put us out of our misery. Take us to the vet and put us down. No, don't give me more medication and radiation. Just take us to the vet. We're done. Look at Bill. Bill, you sound like you're sick of the puppy already. No, no.

We're talking about the puppy at Paracord later. Patriots at Raiders at Bills. Not easy for Miami, I guess. I didn't realize it was three kind of tough ones. Well, the Raiders completely fell apart. Apparently, they fired their offensive coordinator during that game. No, Paul Gunther, the Raiders completely fell apart. Apparently they fired their offensive coordinator during that game. No, Paul Gunther, the defensive coordinator, right?

Defensive coordinator. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got Rod Marinelli now. The ex-Cowboys. I don't know what's going on with that team. I mean, what are my rules is if you're firing your offensive of defensive coordinator in mid-December, you're probably not going to be a playoff team, right? Yeah, that's probably true.

Usually a bad sign. They should have lost to the Jets. I mean, they should really be way out of it by now. Well, this Casey thing, we'll talk about it in a second. I had one more thing on Buffalo. The 2018 draft. Mayfield goes first. Darnold goes third.

Josh Allen goes seventh. Rosen goes 10th. Lamar goes 32nd Aliens are going to be studying this draft 5,000 years from now Wondering what was going on So Allen turns out to be I think the best guy Kind of

Pretty easily now If you're redoing this draft I don't even think it's a debate. Do you think it's a debate? No, I don't know why I'm a Sam Darnold apologist. And I think like if he had a different coach now, you know what? He threw too many interceptions in college too. That was, that was a, that was a little bit of a reach, I think for the jets.

But Josh Allen, I remember at the time people thinking that was okay. That was fine where it is between the two Joshes. He was probably better, but you like the UCLA pedigree with Rosen better than, uh, than Josh Allen. But yeah, that was a steal for the bills at seven.

I think that was the most fun draft because people were either all in or all out on each guy. You went on down the line and everybody had this hardcore opinion. I remember house and I went to the masters that it was like right before when the draft was happening, we went to the CA party, we met Josh Allen. Oh really? And I think I talked about on my podcast, we were like really impressed with just kind of like his demeanor. And I remember thinking like, yeah, that's the kind of guy I would want in the huddle. And then talked about on my podcast,

like this was now a reason to take Josh Allen because he had a three minute interaction with House and I at the CA party. But both of us were like, yeah, that guy's got something. And you can see that the team in general has a charisma to it. And I think it comes from him and Diggs. I think the Diggs thing, that's why that's one of the best trades in a long time.

Best one for ones I can remember where both teams would do it again right away. You never see, well, you never even see trades in the NFL. You never see the ones that work for both teams for sure. That was good. Let's not forget Mason Rudolph was drafted 76 by the Steelers. Is that true? Yeah, that same draft. I'm looking now. I had forgotten when I was watching the Cardinals

game today and they showed Cliff Kingsbury on the 2003 Pats because he was our sixth rounder. For some reason, I'd totally forgotten that he was a draft pick. He was on one of those Super Bowl teams. Do you think he has the nicest house out of any sixth round pick in history?

No, Brady. I think Brady still has the best pick. Oh, Brady's like, yeah, okay. Brady probably has the best pick. There's some undrafted too. But you look at this stupid draft though. Baker first, Arnold third, Allen seventh, Rosen tenth. Just those four.

And this is why teams are always going to take quarterbacks in the top ten over like the can't miss left tackle the can't miss

cornerback because it's like you have a basically one in four chance of striking oil which is what happened in this draft but it's still worth it

you know and then Baker's like eh he's okay um Darnold we'll see Rosen's a bust and that's what it's like, eh, he's okay. Darn old, we'll see. Rosen's a bust. And that's what it's like.

Those are basically, those are going to be your four options when you're drafting. And I think you have that every year. But they don't, it's not the same kind of quarterback. More running quarterback. More like Josh Allen. More like Kyla Murray. They're all over.

They're littered around the NCAA right now. And that's why, you know, all the talk and we'll get to it about Carson Wentz and over committing to these guys. Maybe it's not worth it. But then where do you spend your money? Because running backs aren't worth it either. Like Derrick Henry should. Derrick Henry, every young running back in the league should buy anyone in his family

a car because he's single handedly keeping the running back long term contract should buy anyone in his family a car because he's single-handedly keeping the running back long-term contract thing alive, right? You don't think Zeke Elliott did? He single-handedly killed it. And now Henry is trying to revive it and he's doing a good job with it. Zeke Elliott, these poor people that are in their fantasy playoffs deciding whether to start him. Tell me about it. Week 15, week 16.

They're in their own private Zeke Elliott hell. You're in either way. You're in fantasy and real life hell with him. Oh, Zeke Elliott. He's been so bad, but you know what? He's got a red cross by his name. I mean, yeah, I got to start him. I got to start him.

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Well, it's funny. First of all, before you get into it, you text me when they're down 7-0. You're like, Sal, let us know when we should live bet this team because that's our big joke. The Chiefs. The Chiefs, yeah. And I was like, well, they're minus 295.

And then they went down 10 nothing and it was my home through a pick right right he threw a pick and he ended up throwing three picks it was probably his worst game ever and he still had almost 400 yards passing and they still should have covered like that's how good they are that's how dynamic their offense is they should have won they're up 28 10 at one point but anyway go through your thing. But I thought they should have covered for many, many reasons. Well, you say it was one of Mahomes' worst games. I still felt like he was kind of awesome in that game. Yeah.

One of those picks, the guy Odell did, made just a ridiculous, it would have been a ridiculous catch if the receiver made it. Another one was a miscommunication. But it just seemed like you watch the Chiefs and you just think like anytime they want, they can get Tyreek open

for like 45 yards. Yeah. It just feels like they have three different plays where it's like almost like when we're playing Tecmo Bowl in college. It's like, all right,

I'll run the Bo Jackson play. I need to score here. Just runs for 90 yards. The Tyreek thing. And then the other one they always have is the Kelsey here. He just runs for 90 yards. The Tyreek thing. And then the other one they always have is the Kelsey thing. It's like third and 18. Great. Kelsey, can you get 19 for us right here?

And they just get it. And it doesn't matter. What do you think of him? Do you think he's like Gronk, but is more versatile in how many routes he could run? Like, I feel like Gronk would get open. That was a guy like, oh, you got a double team. Like, oh, crap. How can we double team the tight end? Then the numbers don't match everywhere else but he's like that

he's like you feel like you should throw it to him every time unless he's double team and yet he's also running some fancy routes i mean that offense is stupid that's harlem globetrotters football right there right like mahomes is throwing confetti in the lineman's eyes and then just like shovel passing he's playing like He's playing like three sports at once. He's playing football. He's playing a little baseball with sidearm throws. He's playing point guard, a little shovel pass and pointing out and running and taking a nice angle for a first down. He really kind of does it all.

And yet you thought like at one point he was going to throw the game away and they really shouldn't have. They should have won that. If you want to talk about the end, instead of running the ball, they should have taken three knees and covered that game. Yeah. Oh, they,

they kick. All they needed was the field goal, right? Somehow they're running plays. They ended up getting a flag. They give Miami an extra 40 seconds. And then Miami, they finally did the thing that we always talk about all the time. They kicked the field goal first with 20 seconds left to get the onside.

That's what everybody should do. There's no way Anthony Lynn would have done that. Anthony Lynn would have just kept going and going. Back to Kelsey, though. It's weird, him versus Gronk, because I still think Gronk's the best tight end I ever saw, like removing Pat Spice's side because of the blocking. Because the guy was like having an extra left tackle on top of all the other stuff.

Kelsey's really like this kind of, you know, he can block. I don't think it's people considered his strongest thing, but it does seem like his routes are more creative than Gronk's. And I don't know if it's because he has more space because when Hill's on the field and then you can put, you know, Hardman or one other fast guy, maybe it just opens up the middle in a different way, but he seems more open every game than anybody else in the league. He's probably a wide receiver getting paid as a tight end, right?

We think of like Darren Waller on the Raiders is kind of the same way. There's a couple of guys out there like that, but yeah, he's for sure one of them, but oh man, I mean, just the confidence in that drive. They had like third and one. It was getting sketchy, right? Like the Chiefs weren't maybe going to win. And it was like, then fourth and one is like, all right, I'll just roll out and pass. And it worked, right? That was an awesome play. Just in case people didn't listen, didn't see it. Fourth and one, the game's hairy. The quick shotgun to Mahomes. He immediately sprints right.

Tyreek takes two steps forward and then just darts right, running like a 3-9-40, like an instant 3-9-40. And it's just all in one. It was like you watch it and you're like, they could run that play every time and get four yards.

It's completely unstoppable unless one of them fucks it up. Here's how I know it just personally. When it's fourth and one and my team's on offense and I need them to get a yard or two and they line up and shotgun, I'm cursed and I'm throwing shit. I'm like, don't do it. Get under center.

There's another option. There's a quarterback sneak. You can pretend that you're running the ball. Now you're definitely passing it. You're not doing a quarterback draw. I'm okay with it with Mahomes and the Chiefs because it almost seems to work every time. They are delightful to watch. I really enjoy it. So lost in this whole

thing was it was kind of like a moral victory game for Miami. And I don't know what it means for them long term, but I thought their defense had some spirited moments and got pressure and all kinds of stuff. Offensively, Tua was pretty good.

I thought that was an encouraging game for him because they were trying some shit on him. They were, you know, sending different blitzes and they were pressuring him. He took a couple bad sacks. He took that safety, which was bad. And he kind of made up the yards as the stats and garbage time a little bit, but overall that's yeah. That defense like screws with the little also they were down. Parker was out. They were down to running back. So down a couple of defensive players like that. Yeah, I would, I would agree that

that's a moral victory, but I didn't realize that the last three are as tough as they are. That's why that was what impressed me with the two thing, because here were their running backs. D Washington, Deandre, who is the, uh, Deandre Washington,

who's the chiefs fifth string running back who they got. He was the leading rusher 13 for 35. Patrick Laird was four for 19 and Bowden, who we mentioned earlier, it was one for two. That was their entire running game. Right. So the Chiefs were just like, you guys aren't running the ball.

And then when they fall behind, it got even worse. But then you look at their receivers, Bowdoin, Hollins, Jaceki, Grant, Shaquem, you know, not having Parker in there and still kind of hanging around. I was impressed. I don't know. The thing with I was impressed. I don't know.

The thing with the chiefs is I don't know if they just get bored and they also seem completely intent to prove that Edwards Hilaire is going to be good for them in January. Today he was 16 for 32 and he, he just in against certain teams doesn't seem like he's big enough to move the line at all. Right? No,

you're right. It doesn't matter. Right. I mean, I guess Levy and bell only had two carries. That was weird. It seemed like he's big enough to move the line at all. Right? No, you're right. It doesn't matter. Right. I mean, I guess Levy and bell only had two carries. That was weird. It seemed like he had two right away up, up front,

but yeah, nothing needs to make sense with them. It really doesn't. They don't have to have 50 yards. They don't have to have a hundred yards rushing. Tyreek Hill could run for, he had one carry for like 32 yards. I think that was,

that was the touchdown. So they're very weird. What they're not doing is kicking field goals from the 19 yard line. It did seem a little more aggressive today. And, uh, that's kind of chiefs you want to bet on. I like that Miami team. I think they're going to get a wild card and probably lose in round one, but it'll be like a hard fuck game and we'll leave, you know, it'll be like the, uh, the old WWF scenario scenario where Tito Santana almost takes the title from Backlund, but he wins your respect, but you know he's not going to win the whole game. You're betting, too, at Pittsburgh.

I know you are. First round. You're doing it. I might. I actually might. I'm not impressed by this Pittsburgh game. Saturday night game, I bet that is. That'll be fun.

Another quarterback that got people excited today, Jalen Hurts. So I guess this was preordained because every conceivable tease was going to win today. And we all should have known that the Saints were going to fuck us over. And why would you trust Taysom Hill in a tease? I also meant to send to you in-house. Vandal, the most bet on team spread-wise were the Packers and the Saints. And they were about 87, 88% each. And they both lost by the spread. And Packers and the Saints. And they were about 87, 88% each. And they both lost by the spread and Saints lost on the field.

God damn it. Um, hurts. I guess he wasn't Carson Wentz, which was the best thing about him, but I did think he carried himself a certain way. And it seemed like the Eagles, a team that was basically DOA and look depressed and like they couldn't wait for the

season. And there was real signs of life on both sides of the ball with them today. And I don't know if it was the quarterback thing specifically, but you kind of have to deduce that's what it was, right? What would be different this week versus the last five? It was, they seemed energized by the QB. I guess so. And the one thing is the Saints had gone 55 games without giving up a hundred yard rusher and they gave up to two. They gave up 106 to Hertz and 115 rushing to Miles Sanders. So that was weird.

And like you said, the defense stepped up. They had five sacks. And well, what we wanted to learn is what we always say is, all right, these backup quarterbacks are great and they're fun to watch and when they have a lead, but what happens when they're down 10, nothing. And that's exactly what happened with Taysom Hill. Actually, it was down 17, nothing. And he just, as much as we want to get on breeze, Taysom Hill just isn't throwing it long, right? You just don't get that Michael

Thomas thing. If you've had Alvin Kamara, anybody who hasn't been a fantasy knows that his stats go way down when Taysom Hill's there. And he didn't even really run the ball that well. I think he had, what did he have rushing? Like 30 yards or something to 33 yards. So that just didn't line up at all for the Saints. I actually thought they should have, they should have QB switched at halftime. Yeah. Jameis, you can't wait.

You need Jameis in your life. I can't believe this Jameis thing. How many teams could have used Jameis today? The teams you watch. I mean, believe this Jameis thing. How many teams could have used Jameis today? The teams you watch. I mean, how about the Giants? The Giants signed Colt McCoy over Jameis. And if they had signed Jameis, they wouldn't have had to play Daniel Jones today, who single-handedly murdered them. Terrible.

It was just awful. I just can't believe Jameis doesn't start for anybody. Well, what do you do? Because Breeze is going to come back probably Christmas week. So it's really next week is the only one. I don't see, I don't understand

the Taysom Hill thing. I've never understood it. I don't think he's a real quarterback. I just don't get it. Yeah. And you saw it today. It was like, once they were down 10-0,

I felt like I was going to lose my bet. Yeah, he didn't look like a real quarterback today. That's for damn sure. That was rough. I'll tell you one other thing about the Saints. You know, I moonlight as the body language doctor from time to time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't like their body language. It's just a blanket statement. The aggregators could take it. So whatever weird Saints blog, take it for what you will. I don't like the body language of some of the guys during the game. It doesn't seem like a... Well, offense or defense? I mean, defense got

It doesn't seem like a happy team to me. Really? Something's funky with that team. How can you tell? They're all wearing masks. I mean, you're a doctor. A couple moments.

On the sidelines, I don't feel like their sidelines locked in. I don't... It seems like a... That seems like a team that's dying to lose in round one to somebody.

Interesting. Well, they're out of the one spot right now. Green Bay's got it. Yeah. So we got, so Green Bay is now tied with New Orleans, but they have the one spot and Green Bay is not going to lose again. Probably not.

I was looking at their Carolina, Tennessee at Chicago. It would be hilarious if Trubisky knocked them out of the one seed and completed his Trubisky truth or a resurgence. So then we have Seattle and the Rams are both nine and four Seattle is the edge, but they play each other. So we'll know after that, that's what I thought.

The rent, the Seattle has a red. I thought the Rams had the edge. Oh, whatever. I don't know. Well, he has my head spinning.

I'm not sure what to look at anymore. Kornacki. They need to move the TV higher. You know, lower the TV. So he crouches. So he looks crazier. It's like make the TV the same size as Kornacki, they need to move the TV higher. You notice they lower the TV so he crouches, so he looks crazier? It's like, make the TV the same size as Kornacki,

and then he won't have to crouch. The three wildcard teams right now are Rams 9-4, Tampa 8-5, and Arizona 7-6. That feels like the ones on the fringe are Minnie, Chicago, San Fran, and the Giants. It feels like Rams, Tampa, Arizona is where we should end up. I guess the big surprise for me today was that Kyler all of a sudden looked like Kyler Murray again.

He was running around. I don't know what happened to him. I don't know what happened the last four weeks, but he looked like the guy from September and October today, and I don't know what changed. Well, he did great. Yeah, he extended plays and drives and all that stuff and he was against the Giants offense which you know I tweeted I was talking about this

like everyone's like oh the Giants love playing for Joe Judge guess who gets a pass from all this Jason Garrett who is now running the 15th best offense in the NFC there's only 16 teams built in the NFC he's number 15 and once in a while NFC. He's number 15. And once in a while, I'll get like Gallman will rush for 80, 90 yards. And that's great. But, and I don't want to blame as bad, as bad as Daniel Jones was all on Jason Garrett, but that's not a good offense. I don't care, but you know, I know you don't have to be a lights out to win the NFC East, but that was really bad. What did they have? Uh, 140 yards passing and 78 yards rushing against the team. Like this was,

this is a coin flip of a game at home. They should have won that. Even the game was over. And then all of a sudden it wasn't because they scored and it was 20 to seven. They got to stop. Cards punted. Giants had the ball.

They're trying to put a drive together. It's like third and third and one third and less than one. And they ran this fucking Danny Dimes timing 25 yards field timing pass over the shoulder play where the ball went out of bounds. I was like, what the

fuck was that? That was the biggest play of the game. That was your play. Like if he completed it, it would have been the best pass anyone through in the game. And I was just like, how's that your play? And then the game was over. I don't understand.

I'm with you. I don't understand. Well, so now I guess Washington's the best team in that division. No, but we can't say that though. Cause Haskins finished the game. I know Alex Smith is,

is limping to the finish line. No pun intended. Like he's been hurt every game. They were examining his leg and they iced it and they put heat on it and they froze it. They did everything. And then they're like, just fucking let Haskins play,

please. We don't want anything to do with this. Um, all right. Back to the Eagles for a second. The Jalen Hurts thing. Yeah. Let's just, every sports show is going to do it,

so we should probably do it. The Wentz conversation. Everybody's saying, what do they do? Should they trade? It seems like they literally can't do anything. I don't think they can. Everyone's like, oh, trade him to the Colts. It's Frank Reich's problem.

He'll do good with it. I'm like, I don't know. No one's eating this contract, right? I know there's some creative ways to get around it, but that's just too much damn money. It's easier for the team to take them. So I did some research on this. Basically, if he gets traded by a certain day,

he's only owed his 2021 and 2022 salaries. And it's basically a two-year $47 million deal. So if you're the Colts and Frank Reich's like, I love this guy, go look at his stats the last couple of years. Like I can fix this guy. I don't have a quarterback anyway. Maybe you do it. The problem is no matter when they do it,

the Eagles just get crushed. You know, they, they could save right. 25.4 million in salaries in 2021 and then 15 million in 2022 for guaranteed. But, um, they're just in the hole for 30 million minimum if they trade them, no matter how they massage it with the weirdest thing is they gave him that extension before his rookie deal even played out, which I never understand when teams do that in football. Right. Yeah.

Like, yeah, he's, I mean, he hasn't survived the last three, the three out of four Decembers. Yeah. He had major knee,

knee injury. You also have the franchise tag, which you can always use if you don't agree to a term. I don't understand the whole concept of locking him down way before you need to, when you're not even positive what he is yet is weird. So anyway, I don't see how they trade him. If anything, you would, you would try to build Jalen hurts his value up to try to trade him. Right. Yes, exactly. I think that's the way to do it. But, uh, so then how long does he have to

play to build his value though? Like through the rest of the year, at least. Right. Well, somehow they're not out of the NFC. I know. They're screwed. They might be screwed worse than the Cowboys, which is exciting. Maybe. For now.

It goes week to week. Washington's 6-7, but they have Seattle, Carolina, and Philly left. And that last game's at Philly. So Philly's only a game and a half back. If they could somehow run the slate and I don't even have who their last three games are because I didn't care enough to put them in. Philly's got a tough Philly. I always had a tougher than it's pretty hard.

But if Washington lost to Seattle next week, it's at least conceivable Philly could run the slate. Your stupid team is somehow still alive for that. That's another team that needs to go to the vet. Philly is going to go into the vet. Philly could run the slate. Your stupid team is somehow still alive for that. That's another team that needs to go to the vet. Philly is going to go into the vet. The Philly is at the vet. No Philly is at Cardinals at Cowboys versus Washington. So,

Oh my God, they could absolutely win those three must win though. Next week. Otherwise that's a cross off. We could do a together. We'll do it over the phone. Those are all winnable. Uh,

I don't know what they do with Wentz, but I'll tell you this. Be hard-pressed to find an Eagles fan who's like, no, no, no. Wentz is our guy after today. Hurts was just good enough that there's no way you can make the case for Wentz. Yeah, and then they'll hate Hurts

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This is a guy everybody thought they were going to get rid of after the season. Gets thrown in and actually let it drive. They're just doing this headless horseman gimmick thing, but their defense is good. And Chase Young seems like a potential generation, generational superstar defensive line. This guy's like scoring touchdowns. Yeah, I know.

He's like an offensive player. It should be a running back for them. But yeah, you're right with Haskins. It's like, that was, I hate to be morbid with taking pets to the vet. And I mean, what's the worst? It's like the cancer treatment you avoided for the longest time. Like, all right, we got to put them in. Any Washington fan we know that we're friends with, they're like, no, yeah, yeah.

And of course it makes sense. No, he's done. He's not ready though. He's just not ready. Or like, he's not ready. What? Everybody's ready. It's week 14.

What are you doing? Well, somehow we might be headed for a scenario where Dwayne Haskins is going to be a round one playoff quarterback, right? I don't know if Alan is going to be back in time. Who knows with Alex Smith, but it's at least conceivable that Dwayne Haskins will be starting a playoff game. And if that happens, just activate your mortgages. Well, yeah, they can't make that line high enough. It's funny because last week we talked about the giants were looking good, right? Like, okay, they're going to be the four seat. Like all of a sudden that four or five line shrunk to like five,

four and a half, five, five and a half right in there. Yes, you're right. If Haskins is a quarterback in the first round against tampa bay or i don't know who else who the hell else would it be seattle or the rams that's seven or eight nine right and that might be double digits do you think if haskins the quarterback washington would run an offense where they just kneeled three times because their defense would have a better chance of scoring yeah right so you kneel you try to knock off like three minutes, then you punt it back. It's not bad.

Hope your D makes a play. Just tell Haskins, like, just... Haskins finishes with a minus 110. Screen passes to Chase Young. Try to figure out a way to move the ball.

Bring Chase Young in like the fridge. More fun stuff. The Chargers, just when you think Anthony Lynn has run out of ways to do fun stuff, the end of the first half was epic.

It was just epic. They try to get a first down. They don't get it. It's fourth and inches. They decide to send the field goal team out. The field goal team doesn't get out in time. They get nothing. The announcer is screaming, no, no.

If I'm Anthony Lynn, I would have to say, and let's keep in mind, he was 12-4 two years ago. He lost. The Chiefs were also 12-4. They lost the tiebreaker. They had to play a wild card game. But, oh, my God. I would just say, hey, guys, I'm sorry about the clock management.

It's just the weirdest thing. I get explosive diarrhea with two minutes left in every half, and I just have to go. I just start thinking about it. And I can't focus on the clock at all and that that's my problem it's my fault i don't know what goes on and yet they won like the falcons out charger the the chargers or it was like one of the which was going to happen right it would be amazing if he just admitted he didn't realize there was a clock. I just assumed, like, with the halftime, I just assumed that was arbitrary.

You guys are keeping a clock? I was watching Manchester United, and they add time at the end of the game. Almost always. Where's the extra time? Two minutes, three minutes. Oh, man. So then they pull out the win anyway. And when the Chargers pull out a last second win It's like jubilation, surprise, disbelief

It's like a sports movie Whoa, we didn't fuck one up Well, it wasn't disbelief for me Because I had Atlanta and Matt Ryan through two picks Within a minute and 20 clock time Yes, there is a clock And then they came down and badgley kicked that field goal. That was impressive.

I will say, Matty Ice. I don't know how Atlanta does it. I feel like we have some form of this conversation every Sunday, but Matt Ryan, probably the person the most people have regretted betting on over the last 10 years.

Oh, 10 years. Cumulative bets. Cumulative bets. Oh, cumulative bets. Cumulative. Oh yeah. Yeah. I think so. I don't, I'm not even sure who else would,

uh, because he has this way of sucking you back in where you think, uh, the Falcons, they got a little something going. I think they figured it out or they know who they are now, or they got a little momentum. And then that's when he does what he did today.

Stafford cousins. I'm trying to think who would else, who else would be in the mix there. I mean, out of the active players. Stafford Cousins. Phil Rivers. Rivers, for sure. Stafford Cousins. Jay Cutler.

I don't know if Jay Cutler did 10 years long enough, but Jay Cutler was definitely in there. Yeah, I was listening to House on Friday. He was on the Ringer NFL show telling Warren Sharp how much he loved the Falcons, and I was just like, oh, my God, fucking Matt Ryan. Yeah. This is what he does. He pulls people back in so he can kick them in the nuts again. It's funny. Our friend Hanch on text with, with me and you and house was like, oh, I love Denver today. I bet Denver. I did so well. I was like, don't tell

people you bet Denver. Don't tell people you bet Denver or Atlanta. Just keep that to yourself. Right. You're not lucky. Well, Don't ever tell anyone something like that. What's wrong with you? Keep it like a private shame. Speaking of shame, the Trubisky Truthers are back. They've activated. The Bears, Trubisky's looked frisky. Frisky Trubisky.

And we're heading toward three weeks left of and the Bears not out of the playoff race. Did we cross them off? We didn't cross them off? Yeah, we unfortunately did. We had to uncross them. No, we don't. No, we don't. We're good.

Well, they have at Minnesota, at Jacksonville, and then home Minnesota. Right, Minnesota two out of the last three weeks. Yeah, Trubisky, maybe he wanted to give it back to the fans of which there were none. They passed on Watson.ky, I mean, maybe he wanted to give it back to the fans, of which there were none. You know, they passed on Watson. Like, all right,

this is what you got. I'm going to show you. It looked like they scored 55 points. Weird game. There was one, they scored a touchdown and it cut to one guy in the stands. And the announcer's like,

there's a lone Bears fan enjoying the touchdown, like unironically. I was like, oh my God. Right. This is 2020. It's dead. Anotherironically. I was like, oh my god. Right. This is 2020 needs to end. Another hero from today, Dan Bailey,

who somehow didn't get cut last week after a harrowing escape against the Jaguars that ended, we talked about last week, how they drove in overtime to the five-yard line before they felt safe enough letting him kick the game winner. Today, he cost them at least the cover. that Tampa game was way closer than the final score.

And I continue to not be impressed by Tampa. And I think it's too late now to expect them to be any sort of a threat. That was one of my best bets. Minnesota plus seven. I bought it up to seven and a half. I'm bragging about it and every stupid show I'm on and they come out and they score and Tampa looks listless coming off a buy. And I don't think I've ever been angry at a kicker that wasn't on my team for three hours more than I was Dan Bailey. And like we should have known it. And then they march them out there

for a 54 yard or after he missed one field goal this was before another miss actually he missed an extra point and a field goal these field goals were off by as as much as they were long like it was ridiculous and i we yes we needed those 10 points to cover and tampa bay would have uh maybe tried harder in the waning minutes but and then that pass interference that that that killed me like is. You can't start calling pass interference on Hail Marys. You just can't do it, right? I thought that was a rule unless you hit somebody with a 2x4. Right.

Yeah, it's going to be bad if they do that. And nothing's uncatchable anymore. Not a single pass in the league is uncatchable anymore. They don't throw that flag. At one point, they showed Bailey, and it was like 0 for 3. And there was a missed field goal from a 38, 47, and 52 or whatever. And he was just on the sidelines. Right.

I weirdly felt bad for him. He used to be your kicker for a while. Of course. Yeah, he was good before he became awful. That's what happens with these guys. But he landed with Minnesota, and he hit his deficiencies. And then we saw him today. But yeah, top didn't have to do much, I guess. What was he? Just under 200 he hit his deficiencies. And then we saw him today, but yeah,

top didn't have to do much, I guess. What was he just under 200 yards, two touchdowns, no picks, whatever with that team, whatever it's, it's a weird disjointed team.

Yeah. They're never impressive for more than 20 minutes at a time. When you have Jay Glazer, God bless him. Checking in with, you know, there's a lot of, a lot of talk about how Bruce Arians and Tom Brady aren't getting along. I'll have, you know,

that they did plan on golfing this week during the buy, but the league poo pooed it. So everything's fine and camp between it's crazy what they're checking in on these days. I'm told that Bruce Arians bought something on TB12. He bought five ginger shots and a soothing balm. I'm trying to get the receipt, but until then, you're going to have to take my word for it. They definitely hate each other.

Well, I don't know if Tom's capable of hate, but he definitely, Bruce will not be the coach next year, would be my guess. One other hero from today, Jonathan Taylor, who swung some fantasy leagues, who became the guy we were kind of waiting for for a while.

In my league with my high school and college people, I traded Deshaun Watson for Taylor like six weeks ago because I was like, Taylor, as the season goes along, he's going to whatever. And then he was just awful and fumbling. And I felt like I'd made like the worst trade of my whatever, but he see every year, there's always that one running back first year guy, second year guy in week 14, 15, 16, who becomes like the guy who swings fantasy leagues. It might be Taylor. Just the most of it. I mean, give him the ball 20 times. Again, I think like Derrick Henry is one of the few backs

that you could do this with right now. 20 times, 150 yards. And then he catches balls and Heinz is in that. They just thrash teams like on the road too. Like that's why this team could maybe make noise in January. It doesn't really come down to what Phillip Rivers, what kind of day he's having that much, right? He's okay. He was about

240 with a couple of intercepts. Obviously, you're going against that Raiders defense, which you saw against the Jets, so maybe you shouldn't give him too much credit, but the Colts are impressive more weeks than not. One other thing to note. In the Keeper League that we started this year, I started. I forced you to join.

The guys that got knocked out, we had six teams that didn't make it. So we came up with this intercontinental championship idea where the six teams that didn't make it, they got to stay alive. We had them a week 14 for advance. And basically like they win the intercontinental, whoever wins wins the intercontinental title. They figured out some side piece to go. I was really proud of myself. Everybody's still involved in week 14. I never liked that fantasy would just end in week 13. And then there's like

a whole month left and yeah. So what did they do? They just, uh, well, the only other thing is for them to bet on us, the big boys who were in the, in the play, well, you and I have buys, right? So we play, uh, next week. So what did the, the losers bracket? They had the play. Well, you and I have buys, right? So we play next week. We're playing this week. So what are the losers bracket? They had two buys? They did it like the winners? Like same kind of thing? No, they did.

It was just the six head-to-head, top four advance, and then week 15, it'll be one against four, two against three. Oh, that's smart. That's good. Yeah.

David Chang's got to make his money back somehow. He owes us. Well, he lost. He's out. Oh, he's done already? We figured out another way for him to lose this year. And people said it couldn't be done. Cross-offs. We've crossed off the Jets, Jaguars, Bengals, Texans, Chargers, Panthers, Bears, Lions, Falcons, Broncos.

We uncrossed the Giants and Pats. I don't think we should uncross. I think we should just keep because then we'll... Now we're going to be behind, right? No, we'll keep the Bears crossed off. I think we should recross the Pats because I don't see it happening. Are we going to end up having too many teams left? No.

Are you sure? No, we're fine. The only other team I would think of crossing off... The Niners. Yeah. The Niners are right there. The Niners are ready for the ride to the V. Right. That's the one. That's the one.

They don't look great. I don't know what happened there. Mullins didn't seem like he had to do too much to stay in that game. Mullins is top five worst body language of a QB this year. Even when he's throwing for 300 yards, it seems like even he's surprised. Yeah, right. Mullins is top five worst body language of a QB this year. You don't like his body language? Even when he's throwing for 300 yards, it seems like even he's surprised. Yeah, right.

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when there was shopping and holiday parties and stuff like that, this would be the week Sal's wife would really, really turn on him in some dark ways because he'd have the Thursday night, the two This would be the week Sal's wife would really, really turn on him. Yeah. In some dark ways because he'd have the Thursday night, the two Saturday night games, and then all day Sunday. And at some point it would just get chilly.

Not just in your house, in my house as well. Yeah. This is the week on Saturday. This Saturday, I would have to go to the mall with the kids. This is where you buy the kid's gift for mom, right? Right. You end up walking and you're trying to check your phone for scores. And you're like, damn it.

Freaking pick a blouse or, you know, like cocktail earrings or something. We got to get out of here. And it ends up being two hours and you lose a kid. And then you have to buy cards and stuff. But now it's nice. We could just do this from home and not miss any of the action. Well, one of the games is decent. At least we'll do Thursday night.

First, our Raiders chargers. We needed to get Anthony and Leonard in primetime one more time. I'm excited. I know you're excited. The game is in Vegas. Vegas has major dissension right now. Um, I, God only knows. Plus you put this on a Thursday night.

God only knows what's going to happen. You have a bit this week? I have a bit this week and I've won seven in a row And I don't want to miss this pick And I have to go straight up Well guess the line first and then we'll discuss it I have the Raiders by three and a half Alright

The cheating starts early for you I said four and a half It is exactly three and a half Sell me on the Chargers. And I mean, this just seems too low a little bit. I know the Raiders have been disastrous in their own way, but I'm going to

sell you on the Chargers in the following way. The Raiders have been complete dog shit for like three straight weeks. All right. Yeah. They've been really bad three weeks in a row. I'm looking this up. This seems like one of those games where nobody should be really favored by more than a field goal over anybody else.

Can the chargers potentially beat anyone by two touchdowns? Cause I feel like they're always in it at the end. The other team's always in it. Raiders last three weeks. They lost Atlanta 43, eight. They lost. They-8 They lost They beat that

The Jets in that stupid Greg Williams game Crushed the Jets Then they got killed By Indianapolis Wow So that's why The line is probably fair

Alright It's a rough one And they beat them They beat them what 26 The 31-26 Back in November The Raiders won

My advice would be Not to bet on this game Saturday They beat them, what, the 31-26 back in November, the Raiders won. My advice would be not to bet on this game. Saturday, Bills at Broncos. Broncos officially kind of looking December frisky. We still have to stay away. We still can't touch them. Plus, this is a classic Bills coming off an awesome week. There's been all Josh Allen stories all week. People talking about how cruel is it the Bills mafia doesn't get to enjoy this.

This team has a chance. People on the talk show, I'll tell you what, I think the Bills are the best team in the AFC. I think they are. You have those guys, and then they fall down 10-0 to Denver on Saturday. Did you? I hit this exact. No, I hit it exact. So, go ahead. on Saturday. Did you? I had this exact. No, I had it exact.

So go ahead. See what you can do. You hit it exact. I had the Bills by four and a half. Oh, you should have said four. Four's right. Yeah. Okay.

Stay away. Two stay away so far. I like that Broncos. I like their skill, guys. Yeah, but when they no show, they really no show. Right? Actually, what's their... Let's look at this for a second. What's their last three?

Damn it. I made fun of Hench and the Broncos, and here I go. Now I'm doing the same thing. Yeah, they were good last week, too. They lost 31-3 to the Saints. They lost 22-16 to the Chiefs. They beat the Panthers. But the Saints game was the one they had

no quarterback. Before that, they beat the Dolphins 20-13, right? Yeah. They had a good last month. They just had that one weird COVID game. Oh, God. All right. True luck. I love Hinch bragging about betting. I had one of the best mornings I've ever had. Oh my God.

I had such a great run today. And then I went on the Broncos. Now I'm going to do some lifts. The other one is a Packers at home against the Panthers. Every week, the Packers play someone terrible. I don't know how they pulled it off. The Packers never play anyone good.

Mostly in their division. Well, they played Tampa Bay and they got slaughtered. Right. Who did they beat? That was good. Not, not too many. I guess they played Tampa Bay and they got slaughtered. Who did they beat that was good lately? Not too many. I guess they played Indy.

Right. They could have won that game. They played New Orleans and Tampa. By my count, those are the only three teams with a winning record they put. Yeah, because that division is falling apart. And then they're finishing with Carolina, Tennessee, Chicago. Tennessee could give them trouble. Where is that Tennessee game?

Where is that game? Is that in Tennessee? That's going to be in Green Bay. It's the December 27th game. I'm going to bet we don't see Al Michaels for that one. What happened to Al? Al's got the best gig right now. I'm so happy for that dude.

We love Al Michaels on this show. I was like, eh, Lambeau, December 27th, pass. Yeah. San Tariqo. He didn't do Buffalo December 13th. He's not doing Lambeau on the 27th. Oh, that's a Sunday night game? I see. Al's marking the schedule. It's like, LA, yes.

Buffalo, no. Philly? Eh, kind of like Philly, yes. You guys do this. Anything north of Topeka, I'm out. Anything that's not three hours or less direct, give it to Tirico. All right, so I have Green Bay favored by eight and a half over Carolina. Ah, shit. I said ten and a half.

It's nine. They don't blow that, right? The Packers haven't had their game yet this year when they lose the really stupid game to a shitty team. Unless you want to say it was the Minnesota game when they lost 28-22. But, you know, every year they have that game where they lose like 38-9.

Yeah, yeah. Against somebody who finishes 7 and nine for the season. Didn't they? Wasn't this a game like McCaffrey got stopped at the goal line in the snow? Was that last year or two years ago? Was that last year? Yeah. They do.

We get McCaffrey in this game. I don't know. We were almost supposed to get him this week, but that would make it fun. I didn't. I got to say, I didn't watch two minutes of that. Panthers Broncos game. So I don't know if they should have come back or what. Didn't make it fun. I didn't, I gotta say, I didn't watch two minutes of that. Panthers Broncos game. So I don't know if they should have come back or what didn't make the cut. Sunday's marquee game will be the chiefs and the saints.

It's taking place in Kansas city. Yeah. Do we get your breeze for this game? It seems like maybe I heard not till the Christmas week, which is like a night game the following week. So before I watch both of these teams today, I would have said like chiefs by three and a half, but I bumped this to six. I don't, I don't see how Taysom Hill can be less than six points in Kansas city. I said four and it's three and a half.

So I get that. Fuck that. That's stupid. Do you think that goes up? I just think Taysom Hill is not winning in Kansas City. It's not in Kansas City. Well, that's why I got it wrong. I'll take them however I can get them.

It's in New Orleans? Almost positive it's a New Orleans check. Right? God. They were on the road. Damn it. Wait, let me see. It's a New Orleans.

It is a New Orleans. I deserve to lose. That's a Tony Romo game. Jim Nance. Yep. I still think, though, the Chiefs could win that by a touchdown. I totally would have said Chiefs by three and a half. Oh, well. Unforced air by me. The watchables only have three.

First one, I'm just putting this in because it just has the feeling of something magical happening. Bucks at Falcons. I knew you were going to say that. I was just pointing right to it. You know this will come down to the wire and something dumb will happen and some sort of cover that was going to be a cover ended

up not being a cover with like a minute left is my prediction. This is one of the ones they play again week 17, right? They haven't played yet. This is going to be such a dumb game. I can't wait. I have the Bucs favored by four in Atlanta. Oh man, you got it exact. I said five.

Yeah, it's an untouchable game. Anything with Matt Ryan is untouchable at this point. That Bucs team is so weird to watch. They have so many weapons on paper. Yeah. And yet, it's just a lot of Brady strolling off, kind of seeming confused by something on third and eight after an incompletion where one guy was supposed to go one way

and they didn't. And then the announcer's like, well, once they get on the same page, it's like it's week 15. Yeah. And they'll scare you with a Scotty Miller touchdown. Like, oh, no, that's a nice throw. This is his comfort zone, right? Everything about it.

Ronald Jones is like getting goal line carries. It's working to pressuring the quarterback. And then you leave the game with like, I don't know, this team could easily lose in the first round. Brady's comfort zone is a short, wet receiver. It's like his binky, his blanket.

Next watch of this game, Dolphins-Pats. I put this on here just for the passing the torch potential of No, Belichick. No, I told you. I mean, Miami always screws them, right? This is where you're going to do the same to Miami.

Oh, the heel turn. This is it. Yeah, they'll play spoiler. Have they played yet this year? They have, right? They have. Beat them early in the year when they had Fitzpatrick in New England. Back when Cam could throw a 10-yard pass.

I have the Dolphins by four over the pants. I have three and a half and it's three. So I get that one. That line's dumb. Next one is Seahawks against Washington.

I just think Washington, just out of respect to what they did the last week, have to be put in the watchables for a week. Plus, I have no idea who their quarterback's going to be. It's in Seattle. It's in Seattle, right? It's not in Seattle. It's in Washington. I think it's in Washington. Let's make sure.

This is fun. This is a fun new element to the game where we check where the game is. Yeah. Washington's home. That's not going to change my pick because I had Seahawks by five. All right. Damn it. You get it. Why should you get that? You don't even know where that game is. I said five and a half. It's four.

So you're up four to three right now. Russell Wilson just padding his MVP case with the jets. He'd like four touchdown passes an hour. That was fun there. I don't know. I feel like the jets now are,

you know, the jets scored first in seven games this year. A lot of times it was three, nothing, but they scored for first and more games than they did. And then they just, but now I feel like they're just like, they're just, they're playing bad on purpose. I don't, I don't, I don't want And then they just, but now I feel like they're just like, they're just,

they're playing bad on purpose. I don't, I don't, I don't want to say tanking, but you know, when uncle Frank, uncle Frank, my uncle and Jimmy Kim alive,

he'd say stupid things. He wouldn't be able to identify, you know, like, Oh, do you know who is a bit versus him? It's like, all right,

I get it. But you, you could still pour milk in a glass. Right. So what, what do you do? I feel like the jets are doing that now. They're, they're stepping up their game and it's like, all right, I get it. But you could still pour milk in a glass, right? So what do you do? I feel like the Jets are doing that now. They're stepping up their game.

And it's like, all right, now you're acting. You're this bad. The Jets? You just compared the Jets to Uncle Frank, and I think you pulled it off. I thought it was well done. He's New York for many, many years. Okay, okay.

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to hire. Barely watchables. I got three. Colts are home for the Texans. Put this one in here because these games always end up, even though this is a weird division that's lost us incredible amounts of money over the years.

Colts-Texans games are always kind of something weird happens. It's all last week. It was 26-20. They fumbled with the goal line. Something weird will happen in this game. I had the Colts by seven and a half. I got it exactly. I said seven.

Okay. You wouldn't tease that, though. I would not. You can't trust betting against Watson now. You can't put Phil Rivers in a tease. It's illegal. Right. Vikings are home for the Bears.

Have this in the barely watchables. Because the Vikings, whatever's going on with them each week, it's somehow compelling. And then the Trubisky Truthers, yourself included. Love it. Are the Vikings by three and a half? I said three and a half also. It's three.

Okay. I don't know. I mean, that's a must win. I said three and a half. Also, it's three. Okay. I don't know. I mean, that's a must win. I guess it's a must win for both. They're both six and seven. Why don't in your head? Did you think Minnesota was at a better record for a second? I did.

It's incredible that either of those teams are a game from 500. Makes no sense. Last one. Barely watchable as Cardinals Eagles. I, you could have made a case for this Barely watchables. Cardinals Eagles. I, you could have made a case for this in the watchables just because of the Jalen hurts thing. But it wasn't like he was like incredibly fun to watch today.

He was just competent, but I'm not going to be like telling my grandkids about Jalen hurts his first start. He was fine. It's just, he was so much better than what Wentz was giving them that it seemed like he was unbelievable. I have the, uh so much better than what Wentz was giving them that it seemed like he was unbelievable. I have the Cardinals favored by six over the Eagles.

I said six and a half. It's five and a half. Who gets it? You. I get it. You like that. You like that teaser, Arizona. You think they're trending in the right direction.

I'm done with trying to figure out what's going on with Kyler Murray week to week. All of a sudden today, he's's running around he's making shit happen I don't get it you've lost me Kyler Murray poop factor four games 49ers Cowboys in Dallas oh come on we're back why is this a poop factor game we are back

you saw what the red rifle did he went back to his hometown he took up residency he's like I'm the boss here the game. Oh, it's it. It's full of sewage. You saw what the red rifle did. He went back to his hometown. He took up residency. He's like, I'm the boss here. I have the 49ers by three in Dallas. Yeah, I went, I don't know. I got too excited for that win. I don't know why.

I said Dallas by two. So you're going to get it because it's Niners favorite by one and a half. Okay. You actually could win that game. Stay away. Titans are home against the Detroit Lions. I'll tell you in advance, there's no line here. I would have said seven, but they don't know.

Chase Daniel or Stafford. Maybe that's a teaser game. Ravens, Jaguars in Baltimore. Damn. I have Ravens byuars in Baltimore. Damn. Uh, I have Ravens by 13 and a half. I don't know why. Oh,

we split this. I said 12 and a half. It's 13. So wait, let me add this up here. One, two, three,

four, five, six, seven. Hey, I thought I did very well this week. I didn't two, three,

four, five, six. You're up eight, six, two, three. Yeah.

All right. Damn. Uh, well, I'm about to be up 9-6 because our next one is Rams at home against the Jets. I got Rams by 16. I got 16 and a half at 17. Back in it.

And let me tell you, that Sunday night game, I'm off a half a point, but you'll probably get it. That Rams-Jets game is a classic. How many points are the Jets going to score in that game game? Like if you're scared of the minus 17, are the Jets getting the 10 points? Right.

Yeah. Probably not. Probably not. No. That's going to be a tongue twister game because Aaron Darnold on Sam Darnold, the Darnold the whole time. Oh my God. That's going to be the every other play. That's going to be the every single every other

play. It's going to be that. So the Rams are going to be 10 and four and then they're at Seattle week 16. And we should probably bet this division because I think the Rams are going to win the

division. Yeah, I was just going to ask you. I won Fox bet live and I want to bet the Rams to win the conference. I think. Oh, yeah.

People are sleeping on them, right? You know, I got to bet the Rams to win the conference. I think. Oh yeah. People are sleeping on them, right? You know, I got them before the year. So I feel like I put them in my pocket. Sorry, but I also had the Steelers before the year, which now I feel terrible about.

Cause I think I wish I could have sold that one on eBay. Did you buy Aaron Donald for, uh, for our defensive MVP? I didn't. I did at three to one, but it looks like TJ watt was a favorite going into this week. Did you buy Aaron Donald for our defensive MVP? I didn't. I did at three to one, but it looks like TJ Watt was a favorite going into this week. They're both so good, but they're both kind of like they do the same thing. I would vote for Chase Young if Washington made the playoffs because he's like, that

guy's unbelievable. Well, he'll win a defensive rookie of the year for sure. Sunday night game is Browns Giants. It's in New York or New Jersey. Giants fans are in a tough spot here with Danny dimes. Cause it's clear. He's not the answer, but how do you get a quarterback?

Like they're, they're draft picks. Not going to be quite good enough to get them. So they're gonna have to take a flyer on somebody in that 10 to 15 range, or you do the free agent thing, or you take somebody else's guy that, you know, the,

the Sam Darnold type, they can't, that's probably not going to work for them. I bet they stick with them. I bet they stick with them. I feel like that's the solution too. Yeah. They've had a little run.

They've had wide receiver injuries. They'll say, Oh, what if Barkley's back? Maybe it's different. Joe judge is a savior, but again, Jason Garrett's calling the shots here.

So they flex this to Sunday night. They flex the Cowboys out of it. And this was an exciting game for a couple of days. I had the Browns by four and a half over the Giants. Look at this. Look at this. We're tied. I said three.

It's three and a half. That's stupid. But I'm two points off on the last one. So you should get it. Four, five, six, seven, eight to it. Four, five, six, seven, eight to three, four, five,

six, seven, eight. I'm two points off. Tonya now. Monday night, Steelers Bengals. It's in Cincinnati.

I don't think that's going to matter for this line. I had the Steelers by 13. Yeah. You win the week. I said 10. I don't know why I said 10. I was dumb. It's 12. Hmm. All right. So the week. I said 10. I don't know why I said 10. I was dumb. It's 12.

Hmm. All right, so the Steelers aren't losing that game regardless of what you just saw. Baltimore's not losing to Jacksonville. Let's find one more three-teamer. You don't want to take

Green Bay over Carolina. You're right. They haven't had their weird snow game yet. I'm going to introduce you to the world of college football, Bill. Conference championships, winners all over the place. What about

bringing the Panthers to 19 in Green Bay? Oh, come on. You don't like that idea? I don't know. We also haven't seen a 45-10 out of Green Bay. Listen, I would be fine bringing the Rams to 7. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ravens to 3, Rams to 7, Steelers to seven. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ravens to three Rams to seven Steelers to two Rams. We'll have seven. They'll yeah. Yeah. Halfway to the first quarter. They'll be up 10. Call that one. That's good.

We're in. Damn. You won the week. What does this mean? This is, I might not be catchable now. I have nine, four and two through 15 weeks.

Son of a bitch. Yeah. Playoffs. Yeah. One thing I saw, I watched and two through 15 weeks. Son of a bitch. You got playoffs. Yeah. One thing I saw, I watched some preseason basketball today. And I watched them yesterday too. You're a big LaMelo fan now? What was he, 0 for 5? I thought LaMelo was compelling.

He's all over the map. He made four awesome plays, a couple turnovers, but he's definitely fun. He won't win Rookie over the map. Like he made four awesome plays, a couple turnovers, but he's definitely fine. He won't win Rookie of the Year. KD at 13-1 for MVPs, I'm putting it on your radar. Really? Yeah. I don't think he'll win it,

but I just think those odds are really good because he looks like he did two years ago. So the idea is, help me with this, because I bet Luka, but... Luka's going to win unless he gets hurt. Because he went from 21 to 29 points a game. And he turns in February, he turns what? 22.

22. His team's a little better this year. And the idea being, doesn't matter what the Greek freak does, only a handful of players, very small handful. Nobody's voting for him. No one's winning three in a row.

But the other idea is, don't you have to, aside from Westbrook and 16, don't you have to have a top two seed? Is Dallas going to do that? No, because the top two seeds probably, unless Davis is awesome for the Lakers,

I don't see either top two seeds having whatever. Luka had plus 410, AD at plus 850, and Durant at 1301 were the three that jumped out to me. Let me write that down, because I'm not doing well guessing the lines, so I might as well bet basketball.

I just like the odds, because Brooklyn has the third best odds as a title favorite on FanDuel. They're 6-1. And then I'm like, I'm not even sure. He's their best player, but he's 13-1 to win MVP. That doesn't make sense. What about

for Rookie of the Year? I mean, that was I joked with you in-house, like that first Knicks preseason game was probably a top five moment of the decade for Knicks fans, right? Toppins plus 440, and you don't like Lamello. I don't think Toppins

is going to play enough. I think it's going to be one of those years, like the Brogdon year, where you kind of have to give it to somebody. I would probably put my money on Wiseman. What's Wiseman? He's 7-1. He plays enough. He's one of the few.

I'm looking at these. Probably five guys play. Like, Bobo might not even play enough, right? Well, Bobo played last year, though. Killian Hayes. They have odds for him. Killian Hayes won't yeah that's not happening

I would say it's you gotta look at guys who are gonna get minutes Anthony Edwards obviously is right up there I don't see that one at all Lomelo the odds are probably

too skewed against him but he will play it's gotta be somebody who's gonna play 30 minutes I think by January you should be able to figure out if the shooter is left-handed or right-handed. And Lomelo might

not be there. He might. I mean, honestly, so I watched him Saturday. He's just an atrocious shooter. Right. But his passing and his rebounding, I was shocked by how effortless it was for him at thecious shooter. Right. But his passing and his rebounding, I was shocked by how effortless it was for him at the NBA level. Cause he could see it in, you know, that weird league he was in the last

couple of years, but he was going in traffic and getting rebounds from like seven footers. And he's just, his, the ball was leaving his hand so fast. I was really impressed, but then, you know, he'd have this two minute span where he'd make three turnovers in two minutes let me throw this at you yeah most improved player and the odds start big odds even i saw that yeah you did see it okay no i saw the odds it's like 11 to 1 is the favorite right you'll just alexander michael porter 14 jamal murray 16 to 1 which i don't't know what do you say he improved from, his crazy playoff performance. Tyler Harrow, 18. Zion, 18. Maybe Zion, right?

If Zion comes up in shape and just like, I don't know, kind of three-quarter shacks it. All right. Just a lot of big numbers out there. I can't believe they even take bets on most improved players. It seems so random. Yeah. How do you even decide how, like,

I think John Morant's going to be incredible this season. So if he makes third team All-NBA, should he win most improved? I don't know. Is most improved, it's funny because they don't have that for NFL, right? Is most improved comeback player? I guess that's comeback player. Most improved means you made the biggest leap in skill and whatever else

over the... I've never understood it. Taco Fall, 240 to 1. No, how about this? Let's make a pact. Because next Sunday, let's have some real bets for this segment. Because I'm going to watch them preseason. These will still be up. Alright, we're taking a break. Then we're doing Parent Corner. Alright, it's time

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Right? Oh, you have Harris, though. I have Harris, though. He's going to turn seven in a couple weeks. He still believes in it. And, you know, it's funny. With Christmas, I was like, okay, this pandemic, let's, let's take advantage of some of the things that we could take advantage

of in the pandemic. The elf on the shelf doesn't have to show up. It's an easy explanation. Everyone's social distancing. He's not flying in and out every house. He would get sick. If he did that, it wouldn't be good for Santa. Santa needs him. he relies on him plus the kid did the online thing where he saw santa like with jimmy's kid we did a whole bunch of with the bunch of kids in the family we got a santa and he sat there and he's like oh what do you want what do you want so as far as he knows as far as he thinks santa knows what he wants and santa's watching him and all that shit but no so we got to do this, uh, so now we set the alarm every night at 10 o'clock, which is fine during the week. Cause they have zoom school and everything.

So they're sleeping by then it's really just Harrison. It's seven, Harrison. It's a seven year old. So then I hide thing and I'm hiding it in a plant and a blender. And he gets a kick out of the elf. If it's like on the dog for the day, like whatever it is. But then on the weekend, we forget because these kids are up all night, you know? And so we forgot. And like, it ends up being like a big fight with me and the wife. I was like, look, I'm just going to tell him. I'm going to tell him this is a goddamn doll. It's not real.

It's not like it's doll like Roman Reigns, like all your wrestling dolls. It's just a doll. Santa, fine. Real person. You want to believe. God bless dolls. It's just a doll. Santa, fine. Real person you want to believe. God bless you. He's a real person you actually talk to and you go to the mall and see him or you saw him on Zoom. I want to tell him it's a doll and everyone freaks out. Like, no way you cannot tell him. Now, my middle kid's like, I'll tell him because he wants to spoil anything for the little kid, right? He doesn't like it. I don't know. So now we're at a crossroad. I don't know.

Should I be allowed to tell him? I don't think this is, this is a huge revelation. I just want him to say like dolls are dolls and people are people. I don't think you can tell him. I think you have to blame the pandemic. Blame the pandemic. Oh, it's just that he didn't come back. I think you read a note from the elf.

Right. Saying, Hey, just that he didn't come back. I think you read a note from the elf. Right. Saying, hey, this is my last day. You know, they've decided that we have to distance as the holidays get closer and whatever. I love it. And I will promise to be back in a year. I love it. And then never see him again. The elf on the shelf has a note written by Dr. Fauci.

He's got a doctor's note. He can't come back. Dr. Elf Fauci. He's got a doctor's note. He can't come back. It's Dr. L. Fauci. Yeah. But honestly, he loves the Toy Story movies and he gets that toys are fake and that they come alive.

That's funny because it's not real. What the hell? Where's the disconnect here? I'm sorry. Ben was busting my balls the other day and I pointed at the chimney and I was like,

you're calling me stupid? You used to think Santa would climb down that chimney. Go look at that chimney. See if a snake couldn't fit down that thing, you moron. We're just insulting each other. You did too, though. And so did I. That's it.

That's my parent corner. My parent corner is pretty exciting this week. We got a puppy on Friday. Yeah, I saw. Picked it up and knew it was going to be, you know, a rough first week. The puppy, you know, puppy's sleeping with his brothers and sisters. Now he's in our house. And, you know, he's like, what the hell is going on? We have these three other dogs.

All of them just hate his guts immediately. Comes in. It's like the, it's like, what the hell is going on? We have these three other dogs. All of them just hate his guts immediately. Comes in. It's like the, uh, they, they're, it's like a prison population. They're like freezing them out. Um, can make a run at them in the shower. Um, so anyway, goes to sleep, wakes up 45 minutes later. He's got to pee. We're up all night, Friday night.

And my wife is so mad. I'm like, you agreed. We're fighting. It's four in the morning about who's going to take the puppy out. Yeah, it's like having a baby. How do you know he has to go? He just goes to the door? Yeah, he wakes up and he's actually like weirdly smart with the

potty training part. But it's been great. It achieved all the stuff we were hoping it would. It just like brought this life in our house. Everybody's happy. The lack of sleep is going to come back to haunt us at some point. The problem is the other three dogs. And so Olivia, the old dog, she hates everybody.

So it was just never going to go well. She basically laid down the law immediately. Like, stay away from my fucking dog bowl. Don't look at me. Don't come near me and we're good We won't have a problem Just stay the fuck away from me So he knows not to go near her Jesse the black dog we have

Seems like he likes her Likes him Has growled at her a couple times But the puppy keeps trying to play with Jesse. Jesse's like not really into it. It's like she's afraid she's going to like crush him. And so that's been weird. And then fucking Willie.

Willie, who's like the happiest dog, plays with all the other dogs, all this stuff. He's just, he's like your middle son with Harrison. He's just like, I'm out. I don't know why we got this guy. I'm not playing with him. He's like grow middle son with Harrison. He's just like, I'm out. I don't know why we got this guy. I'm not playing with him. He's like growling at him. And so he was mean to the puppy today. And I'm like talking to him like he's a human being.

Like I'm 10 seconds in. I'm like, Willie, I don't understand. This is like a playmate for you. Why are you being so mean to this dog? And he's just staring at me. And I'm like, oh yeah, you're a dog. This is when Ben says, really? You're pointing at the chimney making fun of me?

Your dog talk here? So I said to Willie, I'm so disappointed in you. And then I had on my iPad, my home screen was this picture of Willie. I took him off. I'm really mad at Willie. I'm so mad that he's acting this way. That'll learn him. I think, yeah, once he finds out, he's going to be so mad. But yeah, they're super jealous of the puppies. So our whole house is in chaos and

nobody's sleeping and three of the dogs are mad. The kids are super happy. It's done everything. Put it this way. We're not thinking about the pandemic a lot this week. No, that's puppy corner, I guess. Yeah, that's... What would they do if they saw the new dog? What'd you name the new dog, by the way? So we named the new dog Murph. Oh, okay.

Perfect. It's a great name. Call him Murph. Murph man. Murph-a-do. Yeah. He looks like a Murph. He's just kind of dumb and happy.

You have 17 friends named Murph, though. Did that matter? No, no, no. All my friends are named Sully. I didn't really have like a tight Murph. Yeah. Okay. Now you got a Murph.

So yeah. So now I have a Murph. So, uh, nice. So yeah, it's great. It's, it's been a nice jolt of energy other than just complete dissension, complete dog dissension. He's like a dog psychiatrist. And then my wife is like, we did this wrong.

Like somehow I always get blamed in the end. We did this wrong. We should have had the meet on neutral territory. I'm like, what? Neutral territory? We drive to Redondo? The dogs can meet on neutral territory? What are you talking about? They're dogs. This is like when you have a baby, you get a gift for the baby and a gift for the other kids. And just so that everything seems copacetic. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Oh yeah. I don't feel bad for you. But also the other dogs saw the Instagram pictures you and your wife are putting up.

They would flip, flip out. Cause this is like the new baby. I mean, your wife Kara has her head buried into the dogs, like sternum. She's like, this is my baby. It is great. The puppies are just the best. They're so dumb. They're so happy.

They're so full of life. It's been great. Th puppies are just the best. They're so dumb. They're so happy. They're so full of life. It's been great. Thumbs up. So now we're four dog family. We have 16 paws. Go for one more. Don't get your tubes tied. The thing is, once you have three, you might as well have four. What the fuck's the difference? Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like the same thing with kids. Like you conceivably could have a fourth kid at this point. Is there really going to be a difference? Yeah. I mean, there to be a difference? Yeah. I mean, there'd be a lot of questions, I think, because I got that taken care of. But there wouldn't be a difference. It'd be a miracle.

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Fox Bet Live, 5pm Eastern On FS1, I'm the king If you had to choose a conference winner between the Bills or the Rams, who would you take? Everyone else is pretty much taken. Rams. Rams really because the Chiefs aren't in that conference, right?

Yeah. That's the only reason. They're actually good. At least they can get stops and they can make a couple plays. Which in the NFC, that might be all you need. That's it. Yeah.

Well, that Rams could be Rams-Tampa in the first round. That would be fun. Sal, good job by you. Good job by you, Billy. All right. Thanks to Cousin Sal. Don't forget, new rewatchables coming Monday. This is the most bizarre pick of the year.

And this is a year where we did 8 millimeter. So I'm just warning you now, um, more podcasts coming on this feed later this week. Basketball is coming. Oh yeah. See that. I want to see them on the way so I never say I don't have feelings with them. On the wayside, on the way so I never say I don't have feelings with them.