The Bill Simmons Podcast - Blazermania, the Snakebit Sixers, PGA Championship Notes With Joe House, Plus: Hannibal Buress

Episode Date: August 7, 2020

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Joe House to discuss the surging Trail Blazers, who beat the Nuggets and Rockets in their last two games. They also discuss “wild-card guys,” including Michael Porter Jr., Fred VanVleet, Zach Collins, and Deandre Ayton; the disappointing Mavericks; the PGA Championship in San Francisco; and more (2:15). Finally Bill talks with comedian and actor Hannibal Buress about his new comedy special ‘Miami Nights,’ his decision to release it on YouTube, Bill's and Hannibal’s glory days of gambling, the NBA restart, and more (57:43). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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our friends from Pearl Jam. All right. If you missed it, we did two rewatchables this week. We did the Sandlot and Teen Wolf. Joe House is here. We're going to talk basketball and golf with him. But Kyle Brandt on the Teen Wolf Rewatchables house brought up a fascinating question. I can't believe this movie

is 35 years old and I've never thought of it. What college would have been the most likely college to go after and get Teen Wolf his senior year? Because we threw out Jerry Tarkanian. We threw out Raleigh Massimino.

Yes. Um, I, I was suggesting Denny crumb Louisville. That was right around the Purvis Ellison time. What coach 1985, 86 range is likely to hone in and convince team will have to come and possibly pay him.

I mean, there's an excellent chance. There's a ton of stories out there about old Jim Bay. I'm Jim. I mean, there's an excellent chance. There's a ton of stories out there about old Jim Boeheim. Jim Boeheim has some hair on his balls when it comes to, you know, finding some opportunities that might not exist out there under the rules. Do you like the thought of Teen Wolf and UNLV in Vegas at night at the casinos? I think that was our best case scenario. It's a plus it's a number one. It's the first one that came to mind as

you were describing the scenario to me. Of course, that's where Teen Wolf belongs. Okay. All right. So last time you were on here, nothing was happening and now we're kind of back. You have a, a PGA, a major happening right now in San Francisco. The bubble has been fantastic. And we were waiting. We're taping this right now. It is almost eight o'clock PT. So you stayed up late on the East coast.

I'm proud of you. We're going to wait until after this rockets Lakers game. And then LeBron's groin was sore. We're starting to see some bubble chicanery. I just watched Portland, Denver, our blazers that we bet on a plus four 80 to make the playoffs. Denver says, Hey guys, we really like and appreciate that bet you made. We're going to rest Jokic and crunch time. How about that? Incredible. They, you know, Denver was kind of poised to maybe take a run at the clips in the two hole. And this game was a crucial game for that.

And they played hard. I thought that Denver intended to win that game tonight. Well, I think what happened is they maybe were waiting and seeing how that Mavs game was going to go. Okay. And if the Mavs beat the clips and then they had a realistic chance to get to two, I think they go. Okay. And if the Mavs beat the Clips and then they had a realistic chance to get to two, I think they go all out. I think once the Clips won, what's really going on here is they don't want the three seed because they don't want to play the Clippers in round two. And they don't, I think, I don't think they want to play the Rockets in round one as the six seed. So it

seems like they would rather get in that four spot and potentially play the Lakers in round one as the sixth seed. So it seems like they would rather get in that four spot and potentially play the Lakers in round two. That's the only reason I can imagine why you would throw away this Portland game. There's no other explanation. It is kind of weird. That sounds like too much, you know, machinations in terms of, you know, what,

it's too early in the bubble right now to be scoreboard watching, isn't it? There's still too many things that can happen. I thought that, but, um, was talking to a couple of people today and one of them was saying, watch Utah and Denver, the links they're going to go to try to not play Houston in round one. And I was like, really, there's like four or five games left. And that was one. And then the other one was, was, um, the mass today. That was a big game. Cause that was their chance to knock the Clippers to the three seeds.

So they didn't have to see them in round one. They can't beat the Clippers. And they went all out in that game, a hundred percent balls to the wall game seven. And it didn't matter. The clips still throttle them. So I game seven. And it didn't matter. The clips still throttle them. So I actually don't think it's too early. We only have like four or five games left, depending on what the team is. I I'm surprised that Denver thinks that they would have a better chance if they were in the four spot, if that's what they were thinking.

I don't know. I mean, I can't, you know, try and make any sense out of it. Denver, as much as anything to me, looks like they're just relieved to have 10 guys that can suit up and play, you know, you, you asked me, uh, coming in to think about a couple of, um, angles for the bubble. One of the angles that I've really enjoyed over these, um, first handful of games is like these revelation guys. Yeah. Guys like Michael Porter, Jr. Guys like TJ Warren guys like Gary Trent,

Jr. You know, kind of second tier below the radar guys who were stepping into this very unusual set of circumstances and, you know, doing really good things for their teams and creating, uh, you know, opportunities for the teams that, that maybe didn't exist pre bubble. I had this for later, but let's do it now. I was thinking about wildcard guys for these teams

because I think one of the cool things about this whole bubble and the situation we're in without home court advantage and the fact that nobody seems a hundred percent happy with their team, except for Toronto is that each guy had each team has kind of that guy that is, is weirdly going to determine their fate, even though it's not their best player, their second best player. So the first guy I'd listed was Porter jr.

And I don't know what Denver does with that because, you know, I think we would both agree the ceiling of whatever with that because, you know, I think we would both agree the ceiling of whatever team that has, even if everybody comes back, I just don't think as a team that can make the finals. And I, you know, all due respect to them three seed, wherever they land, I just don't think they're as talented as the Clippers and the Lakers. Porter is the wildcard guy for them because they can play him in the bubble. It doesn't really matter if they're three, four, five, or six, there's no home court. Anyway, they're going to is the wildcard guy for them because they can play him in the bubble. It doesn't really matter

if they're three, four, five, or six, there's no home court. Anyway, they're going to make the playoffs. The reps that he's getting in these games, when they get to round one, you know, he's going to have seven games under his belt of being the number two option on a playoff team. He's electric. We we've been, and you know, this was a complaint during the regular season that, uh, Denver fans and NBA fans were levying Mike Malone. Everybody say, why are you sitting on MPJ? And I think they had good reason. I mean, the guy with his injury history, um, you know, his, his NBA maturity, maybe his own sort of maturity as a kid growing up into the league. I mean, God bless him on the Instagram with the conspiracy theories. He's been canceled three

times already and it's only been a week. But from a basketball perspective, I mean, the ceiling is way up here. I mean, I, I mean, it's exciting. Well, there's two things they really need from him or need from somebody like him that he just happens to fill. One is that he can actually shoot. And that's a team that's pretty spotty, like their best three point shooters, Murray, and even Murray's a little up and down depending on the week, but he, you know, he's a good shooter, but the stuff he does around the rim and Jokic, it's like giving Jokic this new toy. It's like when, uh, we get bark box every month for my, for our dogs and Willie, our, our beloved Willie opens the bark box and pulls out this thing. And it's just so excited. It's like

the greatest it's hilarious. It's the greatest day of his life. The Michael Porter jr. Just came out of the bark box for Yoko. And now Yoko just 20 feet for the basket. And he's got this guy making these little sneaky cuts. He's hitting him with these passes. And then he's going up in the air, but kind of sideways.

He's, he's one of those, like there's not many forwards who have, have the athleticism like that to bend left and right. And, uh, I think he's really exciting. I, you could argue he's the second best offensive player on that team and he's barely played. You said this, uh, two minutes ago, and I don't disagree that they're not going to be in the finals this season, but I love Denver for next season. I can't wait to see, you know,

if they have, if everybody can be healthy and they enter the season, uh, starting Christmas day, 2020, if all things work out, um, that Denver team is formidable. It's deep. They have, they can go a lot of different ways. We, we, you know, bet bowl bowl is going to be my pet, my pet project, but you know, he's getting Ron and the development of, of him, um, on that team into, into potentially an asset there. They can be like a 10 to 12 player deep team. Well, when Porter went in the draft, he went 14th and we all thought it was a good pick immediately. We all thought he, it was a couple picks too late. And at the time, and this is a fascinating draft. The Knicks take Knox nine. I mean, just a tough,

tough 20 years for the Knicks. Umael Bridges goes 10th to Philly, and then they trade him to Phoenix. Shea Gilgis Alexander goes 11th. Man. And then the Clips are on the clock with two picks. And they take Miles Bridges and Jerome Robinson. They traded Bridges.

But they had these two pseudo lottery picks and could have just rolled the dice with Porter. And one of them, it actually would have been like a genius move. Right. And then they could have just stashed Porter. Now, granted, he probably would have been dumped in that. Okay. See trade for Paul George. But my point is a, I don't think he should have fallen that far. And B he came one pick away from your beloved wizards. Oh, I don't want to hear it. Who were 15th who took Troy Brown.

Who's that? Is he on your team? He's he's in the, he's down there. He's in the bubble. He's he's half of an NBA player. The wiz, the,

the, the, the gizzards have, you know, one and a half NBA players. He's, he's one of those halves. Okay,

good. I haven't watched one second of the Wizards in the bubble. But I think if he goes to the Wizards, he probably just gets hurt and it gets worse. It's a no. It's a no. Something bad happens to him. Anyway, at the time,

it didn't make sense that the Clippers didn't roll the dice because everybody's like, if this guy's healthy, he's a top three pick had the back thing, but that's right around the time you take the run at it. Anyway. Um, it's fun that they're just letting him lose. And I don't know what it's going to mean for around one. I think there's some real defensive trust issues with him. I think that's why he got benched in the first bubble game. I like that he texted his coach. Next guy, next wildcard guy. And this is the most proven guy in the bunch, Fred Van Vliet. Oh.

And I mentioned him because we saw in the playoffs, he had this Jekyll Hyde thing where he was horrendous for the first 10 games. And then he was unbelievable for the second 10 games. You're talking about last year. Last year. He single-handedly carried Toronto to the title. I mean, he got, he caught fire and the,

and it was what it was. And it was like, is this, is this a hot streak or is this, is this the player he's going to become? And then over the course of the year, it was like, Oh,

he's actually good. And now you're seeing like him and Lowry together. And then, and something's going on with that, but it's kind of like a, like a poor man's Lillard McCollum combo now with, with the amount of offense they're getting from two guards. Sure. Not as at high of a level as those two guys, but he had 36 points the other night. I mean, he could fill it up. This is, this is the thing with him and he's been doing it. This is why before this started started, you, me, and the Cuss talked about sleeper teams that we like that could really make a mark in these playoffs.

And I just love Toronto, and he's a big part of it. And they've really demonstrated all the reasons why I thought that they had a chance to go. They're just mature. They're a mature team that plays confidently. They know who they are and they just go out, you know, in, in some respects, I feel the same way about Houston. Funny enough. I think Houston's looked, well, I think that they, they've been playing like serious basketball. They've been playing true to their identity, right? They're making this small ball thing work and they have been daring teams to,

to, to, you know, punish them. And weirdly enough, teams have gone on stretches of punishing them. And then they go away from it. Milwaukee is the biggest example of this. That Milwaukee Houston game should have been concerning for Milwaukee fans because, well, look, the, the, the solution was to give Giannis the ball in the post and they did it a bunch of times in the fourth quarter and then they stopped doing it. And I don't know why they stopped doing it.

Yeah. With Milwaukee and the two LA teams, I'm trying not to overreact because I think their destiny going into these playoffs was secure plus no blood. So yeah, I didn't, I don't mean to suggest an overreaction. No, I don't think one thing you said in there wasn't an overreaction because I thought the same thing watching it.

I've said it before on the podcast and the Bucks fans get super mad in these tight games. Giannis is the best player in the league for the first 47 minutes of every game. That last minute, I'm not sure he's my number one pick for I'm down one, create a shot for me. Right. I think that's a very fair thing to say. I think I would pick five to six other guys before him on that list. We're down one, make a play. I think what makes them special is what he does over the course of the game. And he's the best player in the league. I'm not arguing anything. Otherwise he's the best, but that last minute of the game and you see it with Portland, it's one of the

reasons Portland has been such a special bubble team. Like Lillard is gone five other levels beyond. And he, the guy was already great anyway. I'm starting to wonder, um, you know, could he beat the Lakers at round one? Could that team actually can really give them a conversation? Let's hold that thought though. Um, Fred VanVleet for Toronto, I guess, let's go to Portland really quick. Gary Trent Jr. would have been my wildcard guy, but I don't even feel like he's a wildcard. The guy's money. He's money.

27 and 8. Every time he shoots a three, I'm going again. Marcelo and I raved about him on Sunday Night Spot. I don't think we even have to rave about him anymore. I would switch the wildcard guy. I'm putting Gary Trent in submit. He's good. I'm good. You're good. All right. Uh, not in cement Zach Collins. Oh, okay. And there's an interesting thing with him and NERC edge together. And you saw it tonight in the Denver game where he's just a really good basketball player. I'm not sure he's a good, good actual talent basketball player,

but in the terms of I know where to go, I know what to do, I'll make the extra pass. You give me a three-on-two and I'm about to go layup, I'll sneak one into Nurkic. He does some really high IQ things that if you're looking at what's their best five, and I don't think you and I think Mello should be in that best five. If we're talking like a game for game seven, I thought you were going to give Mello the wild card.

I really thought that's where you were going. I think in crunch time, I think they have to go Nerkage Collins, Trent and lower to McCollum. I don't know if Mello gets out there because of his defense. Okay. But I, maybe it'll depend on the matchup.

But the thing with Collins is if, if he can play with Nurkic and not kill them defensively because he's constantly on some sort of mismatch. Now I'm getting offensive rebounds. Now I'm getting tip ins. Now I'm getting little sneak passes. But on the other hand, he's a,

he's a guy you can watch on the wrong night. And you think like, Oh my God, that guy sucks. Um, what do you think is that Collins? Um, the IQ thing is, is the thing. And this is why at the outset of the bubble, we expressed all this confidence and the, the, the idea of, of great opportunity to, to gamble on, on Portland. Right. You know, who thinks, um, is going to give the Lakers some trouble. Charles Barkley has been saying, he, he, he said before that anybody played a game that Portland was going to get in and that Portland he's saying just flat out that Portland is going to beat LA.

He's just saying it now. Well, we've, we talked about this. We've had multiple texts about this, about it's, it's in a lot of ways, a worst case scenario matchup for a team that gets the one seed. And then they have to play Portland who might be the third best team in the West has these two guards that they're going to have a lot of trouble matching up with. I guess the key is that the, the Blazers have nobody to guard LeBron. They have bodies to throw at Davis, but the LeBron thing, it's basically Trent Carmelo and the worst player in basketball, Mario Hazonia. And that's what they'll be throwing at him. Speaker 3, you said not to, to overreact and, and I'll, um, I'll agree to do to, to

subscribe to that. But the Lakers are the worst offensive team in the bubble right now. They have their offensive efficiency is, is last. I mean, there's a whole bunch of, of stats with where they're dead last and all kinds of offensive categories. I did hear that Rondo arrived today. Oh, wow. And I don't know what that means. Like how far out he is in terms of clearing first the COVID test, but also I don't know where his rehab stands, but the fact that he's arrived, that's important for them, I think. Well, so we're taping right now. It's 9173 Houston with two minutes left in the third quarter.

I think one of the reasons the rest of LeBron in this game didn't mean anything to them, but I think they really wanted to give all these different lineups, non-LeBron in this game. Didn't mean anything to them, but I think they really wanted to give all these different lineups, non LeBron lineups minutes to see what they have. Because that was the glaring thing. Watch them the first couple of games when he wasn't playing, they didn't really have anybody who could run their offense. And the fact that they're relying on DN waiters, like they're relying on DN waiters when he's been a non-factor for two years. Now I happen to think he'll actually help them in the playoffs of his

heads on straight. Cause he can create his own shot, stuff like that. But when you're watching them going, man, they actually need that guy. And it's DN waiters. Who's who's been like a 30 for 30 the last two years.

That's not a great sign. I just think they have, I think they had a average to below average supporting cast, tending toward below average before the Bradley Rondo thing, and now it's just below average. It just is.

Like, you look at Denver today, like Dozier comes off the bench for Denver today and is actually like making things happen. The Lakers don't have anybody like that, and a lot of these teams do. I want to hold that Portland thought because I wanted to talk about that after. Actually, you know what?

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because I'm still not sure this is sustainable with this small lineup. And we saw them wear out right before the pandemic, but right now they look really good. And you add him to the mix. We'll see what happens. Kuzma, I think for the Lakers. Has to be Kuzma.

Because of the, you know, he's basically a 31% three point shooter. But if he jacks that up, the, his ability to play D he allows them to play Davis at the five, you play Davis, LeBron him together with Danny green, and then whoever to guard the other team's point guard. That's probably their best lineup. I agree with this. They don't tonight Kuzma starting and getting the minutes that he got.

That was important. I think. Yeah. Well, they're down by 18. Um, I have, I have two more because the sons might make the playoffs and we were

impressed post suspension with Deandre Aiden and that there were real signs of life with that team and with him. And now in the bubble watching him and that team just seems like they, they have kind of fallen into place that the Pacers win today. They were only favored by like, take a point, the sun. So they had went on a 21, nothing run at one point. The shocker is that Cameron Payne is a competent backup. That guy I thought was, I mean, remember him on. We've been waiting.

He was horrible. And people have been waiting. He's turned into like a tallish Smith, but Aiden, have you watched Aiden? He looks like a legit big man, kind of Nurkichi, but you know, a little more athletic, but just kind of long and big and, and a problem. We've been waiting for it, uh, for a while now. And maybe this is the thing that will, um, help him advance, you know, making the leap we've been waiting for sustained consistent you know because he's got the talent and he's got the right head coach the entire son story to me is about monty williams

right what a what a difference um you know a guy who has both like he's he's kind of a um a young team whisperer in a way. And they're a decent mix, right? They have young guys and they have a couple that's, you know, Rubio at the helm is not, you know, that sets like a kind of. He's an adult. Yeah. Veteran kind of presence. Is Dario Saric an adult on this team?

I mean, I don't know. Baines is though. Baines is, though. Baines is an awesome teammate. Yeah, yeah. Beloved Celtic. Right. But, you know, their young guys, what Booker's been doing has been awesome. It's exactly why he earned that contract that he got.

But this is the Aiton that we wanted to see. And you know, let's, I'm not going to, if we get a Portland, uh, Phoenix eight, nine series, that's going to be awesome. And I think that's where we're headed. I'm looking at it right now.

Memphis is 32 and 37. Portland's 32 and 38 port. They're going to flip spots. And then it's a question of whether Phoenix can catch Memphis and they are two games behind them, but Memphis is just in a free fall and, uh, and we'll see how that goes.

But yeah, I'm with you. If we had double elimination, Portland versus Phoenix in Portland just has to win one. It's pretty good stuff. My last wildcard guy is Gordon Hayward. Oh, the more I look at this Celtics team in the East.

And I think, I think there's clearly a leader in the box, not a newsflash. I think Toronto is almost one B you have Milwaukee, one a Toronto, one B. Okay. And I think Toronto is almost 1B. You have Milwaukee 1A, Toronto 1B. Okay. And I think Miami is the third best team. And I like their nine-man rotation.

I think when they have everybody back, it's just the most complete team. They have the most things that can happen during a game. If somebody's not having a good game, they have other guys who can step up. They have shooting. They have a really good coach. And then it's like Philly,

Philly, Boston, Indiana. Uh, we'll talk about Simmons in a second. The Boston thing with Kemba at 65%, 70%, whatever it is thrown in with the fact that they,

they really don't have any depth. They have, it's a seven man team. And then the Hayward is the X factor. And when you came and you saw me for my 50th birthday, Hayward broke his hand, and he's never been the same since. If he can't go back to where he was that first month of the season, I think the Celtics team could lose in the first round or second round.

I do not think they will make the third round. I don't have any reason to disagree with you. I think you have the rankings in the East. Exactly. Right. The bubble has, has, uh,

shown us, you know, uh, the character of, of the East teams, um, has, has really been sort of defined.

The only slight surprise at all to me has been Indiana, how good Indiana has looked. Until today. Well, sure. But the disappointment to me with Indiana is Sabonis getting hurt. Because, boy, you look at that team and what they could do, how deep their rotation could have been with Sabonis. Now we have too much Myles Turner, and that's never a good thing. Yeah.

I think they would have been the fourth best team. The Boston thing is a bummer because, you know, they just had so many picks over the last few years. And I was texting with somebody tonight, like, to not get a high lottery pick out of that Sacramento pick last year. And then also the Memphis pick this year. And they just go 0 for 2 on those. It was really difficult.

That's like 50 to 1 odds. That just wasn't going to play out that way. They're missing that one last piece. And, you know, Hayward's going to opt in for 30 million and that'll be the expiring year of the contract. But there's still time to, you know, we've seen when he plays well, what it means. Cause now you have three wings who can all penetrate and shoot threes who can switch on d and you know the ceiling just gets higher but um well i don't think it's happening sorry buddy yeah i don't think it's happening either um oh

you had you had a time what was your other topic you wanted to bring the other thing that that has struck me as weird and maybe it's because i'm in a generous and gracious frame of mind. And there has been like some disparity around this. I think the refereeing has been good. Is that, is that a crazy thing to say? They're like, there are games where there's been 50 fouls and,

and, you know, seven technicals, but I honestly have not been watching the games getting frustrated by the refereeing. And I don't know if it's me or if it's the situation I've thought they've, they've done a terrific job with really having their stuff together on the video reviews. It feels like they're getting those done very quickly.

I don't feel like I'm sitting around for an hour and they're, they're making the right, the right call coming out of those reviews. It feels like they're getting those done very quickly. I don't feel like I'm sitting around for an hour and they're, they're making the right, the right call coming out of those reviews. I don't know, but like I say, maybe it's, it's the, uh, quarantine spirit in me wanting, you know, something good out of the situation, but I think the rest have been decent. Well, maybe think about it. They don't have to travel. They can just kind of focus on their job. They get to the game. There's no fans, nobody yelling at them that they're a cocksucker,

their dickhead, their fucking asshole. Like all this stuff they hear game after game, all the stuff you yell at them. Yeah. All this stuff I'm yelling. Um, and maybe,

maybe they're just, I still hate the instant replay reviews and for me they've been really noticeable just because we spent four and a half months watching old basketball games and guess what they had a much better flow because we weren't stopping every time

it might have been a charge on somebody that had to and we had to spend four minutes litigating that I would just rather we didn't have all that stuff unless it was, you know, did that three happen before the shot clock expired? Stuff like that. I still think we should have it for that, but we, you know, when we're litigating, if we're slowing somebody down a one, one hundredth of a second to see if he was still kind of moving during a charge, what are we doing? I know block. What's the point of that? I'm just saying, setting aside the question,

I get what you're saying. I think they've done a good job of making it effective. It hasn't felt drawn out. All right. Well, that's all. Those are my angles. That's the nicest thing we're ever going to say about the referees.

So one of the true joys we had for this bubble basketball, one was the plus four 80 Portland bet, which has been really fun to root for. And I feel like I'm actually a blazer fan at this point. I've watched every minute of all of their games. I'm really into it. So the Portland soccer moms, we were finally on the right side. We should be ecstatic. We love this team. We are rooting for them. I mean, we are Portland fans. We're watching every game. We're in the minivan with you guys. We're cheering. We're eating orange slices. We're rip city jerseys. Uh, the, the other joy of the bubble for us was, was Philly self-destructing and losing in round one and then all hell breaking loose.

And now I feel like we've been robbed because Ben Simmons is hurt. And now if it could go one of two ways, one, they're still going to suck and everybody will be like, well, Ben Simmons got hurt. We better give Brett Brown one more year. But to be fair to Brett, you know, he lost.

I mean, that might actually happen. Or there's going to be some Ewing theory potential. And Philly will overachieve without Ben Simmons. Either way, I like the way it was going, where it was just this completely broken team. It was pretty clear. None of them were happy. It was just heading for whoever they played in round one

was going to beat them. I feel hurt, House. I really feel robbed. It was going to beat them. I feel hurt house. I really feel robbed. It was going to be much more fun to watch them, uh, self combust. The, the, one of the truly shocking experiences post bubble watching Philly, it is as though they hit a pause button in March with every one of, of the issues that that team had chemistry issues, uh, uh, approach issues, strategy issues. All they did was hit pause and freeze time. It was like a freeze frame. They all stopped and didn't move. It's like playing the game freeze as

a little kid. And then, you know, whatever it is that you say when you're allowed to be unfrozen again, that's how they entered the bubble. Like they, they didn't do one thing to like all the stories. Ben Simmons is powerful or not. Oh, shake Milton. This point guard. It was all garbage. It was all nonsense.

They look terrible. They play no defense. And this is the thing with Simmons that makes me think that the, I don't think there's the Ewing theory potential isn't high because he's so important to them defensively. Well, and he seemed like the one guy that gave a shit. I agree.

I agree. Well, it's, it's too bad. And it's too bad for Sixers fans because Brett Brown will be like yeah you know uh losing Ben was a real problem for us and uh you know it's he's a he's an all-star he's a tough guy to replace you know and we just gotta all chip in and it's like no you guys were losing in round one no matter what happened I also just like Ben Simmons, and this is another dumb injury for him,

which is too bad. Anyway, I have that. I have, you know, we keep calling a big three. Lakers, Clippers, Bucks. Out of respect to the Raptors and everything we've seen this season. Yep. Let them in. Don't we have to say with four teams?

I think like eight teams can win the title just because I think this is going to be a bizarre playoffs with a lot of injuries and no momentum, no home court, all that stuff. But at the very least, I think Toronto out of respect should be mentioned now. They're the defending champs. Yeah.

They treated this season. Who else has had basically a finals MVP leave the team and come in and treated the season with perfect honor? These guys have pride, and they're playing with pride, and I just love it. The chemistry that they have. Nick Nurse is awesome. Masai is awesome. I just, I am so impressed by them. Yeah.

Nick Nurse is clearly the best coach in the league right now. He is the best command of his team. He does the most interesting things every game. Offensively, I think they're the most fascinating team. I think he maximizes every guy. And we were talking about them earlier. The one point we didn't make was every guy on that team plays really hard. Yes. They don't have like the, the floater guy, the, Oh, I wonder if that guy's going to show up. There's nobody on

that team like that. Everyone shows up every game. Um, I think they deserve it. And you know, I remember we were doing podcasts when I was at Grantland the year after Dallas won the title and we were so mad that they didn't defend the title. You and I both feel the same way about this. I think if you win the title, you have an obligation to defend it and defend the title, you know, agreed with us, Michael Jordan during all 10 hours of the last dance till you lose the title, you should be able to defend it. And I think the way Toronto's defending is great. Last thing I had, uh, basketball wise was just this Portland thing, which we've talked about before, but you know, Barkley was doubled down on it tonight with them

being able to beat the Lakers. It's not as far fetched as people think. And there's been situations, you know, in playoff history where a team built around two great scoring guards like this, you know, could just kind of catch fire for a few rounds like the way they're doing now. I think it's important to mention the reason they look like the best team in the bubble is because they have the highest stakes out of anyone in the bubble right now. Every game is a game seven for them. And they've played, you know, I think the hardest consistently.

I forget who said the other day that poor, Oh, Van Gundy said at the end of Portland, Houston, that he thought that was by far the most competitive game he'd seen the bubble. I agree. You could,

both teams are really sophisticated playing defense, all that stuff. So it's easy to get carried away and be like, Oh, Portland's the best team in the bubble. No, they're, they have the highest stakes in the bubble right now. With that said, it's a nice matchup for them against the Lakers. Yeah. It's a team that has a bad backcourt trying to stop a team with a backcourt that scores 60 to 65 points a game. That's a bad thing for the Lakers. It just is. It'll be really fun to watch if it comes to pass. I mean, there's still a whole bunch of things. We're only really a week into this. Um, and there's still a whole bunch of stuff that can happen. Uh, I'm going to knock on wood. I don't want any bad things to happen to derail this, but,

um, you know, the, the thing that Portland has in front of it when we finally get to that playoff moment is Anthony Davis, the MVP of the bubble. I mean, holy cow, has he been unbelievable. Yeah, but think about it, though. Let's say he goes for 38 and 17 every night. I still think Portland could beat them. They have to shoot the lights out. They have to shoot the lights out. That's all.

They can. They met 12 threes today. I get it. They can, but they have to shoot the lights out. They have to shoot the lights out. That's all. They can. They met 12 threes today. I get it. They can, but they have to do that for seven games to win that series. We're going to move off of basketball and not talk about the disappointment that is the Dallas Mavericks. So much smoke blown up their ass, that team. We can do that really quickly.

I just wanted to mention the Toronto Portland finals. Odds are like 125 to one. No chance. 125 to one. You said finals. Like they're not going to the Toronto. I like Toronto. Toronto is not the side of this equation that I have a problem with.

Portland beats the Lakers and plays the winner of Utah-Houston round two. Okay. You don't think they can beat Utah or Houston? They can. It just takes a lot. It just takes a lot. Can I give you the dream scenario

for the Blazers? By the way, they were in the Western Conference last year, the finals. a lot. Can I give you, can I give you the dream scenario for the Blazers? All right. Turn the camera Western conference last year, the finals, turn the camera on. This is a ringer social media breakout. Portland beats Phoenix. First of all, Portland goes eight. No. In the bubble, Portland beats Phoenix in the double elimination game. First game, they get them the hell out of there. Round one, Lakers. They upset the Lakers. They knocked the Lakers out.

Too much guard scoring, too much everything. One of the big upsets, one of the biggest upsets we've had last 25 years. Next round, the Houston Rockets, who beat the Jazz. We get a rematch of Dame versus Westbrook,

which clearly they don't like each other. You could feel it the other day. And that thing, I love it. We get that whole thing going. And then you get in the final round. This is where it becomes a problem. Clippers blazers,

where you have two of the best swings in the league going against Carmelo garage, my guy, our guy, our trend, junior, our hero, and the worst player in basketball, Mary Hazonia with a little effort. going against Carmelo, our guy, Garrett Trent Jr., our hero,

and the worst player in basketball, Mario Hazonia, with a little Anthony Simons. That's one of the biggest mismatches. So they would need somebody to beat the Clippers before round three, I think would be. So they would need like a miraculous Denver win or I don't know. They need some help. Not Dallas. Maybe this isn't a social media breakout.

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I'm disappointed. You know, they, they, they had this problem in the regular season of not being able to close out games. If the game was in certain number of within a certain number of points, um, they, they had among the worst records, They were in the bottom three in the entire league and they didn't do anything to address that. And we watched them lose their very first game against Houston up seven points with 43 seconds left. You might've wagered on this. And when it was a terrific game, I was so I'm so mad at them because

I parlayed the over. And at the time that I bet on it, it was two 30 and a half, the point total, uh, uh, number and it, and they, they combined for over 300 points. So the over was the lock of the century, but I parlayed that with a Dallas win and everything about how they played and how they matched up with Houston was so sensible and they look so good. And then there was four minutes left in the game and the ball stopped moving. Donchik is, is, is forcing stuff. They're taking bad threes. Only he and Zinger touched the ball. Only him and poor Zingas. Those are the only two guys that touched the ball. I wasn't, I understood how Seth Curry missed an 84% free throw shooter,

missed a free throw that would have iced the game with five seconds left because he hadn't touched the effing basketball in 10 minutes. So I'm just disappointed. That's all. It's too bad because they can't beat the Clippers. No chance. Zero percent chance. When we get to round one, that's going to be in every parlay we do is going to be the Clippers

because we've watched this. It's just for a variety of reasons. It's, it's the kryptonite team for them. And, uh, I'm with you. I,

you know, I really like how Porzingis has looked. Me too. I need to, I need to really think about whether he makes sense with Donchich as a combo. Wow. Whether that's the right person to be the number two for him.

I feel like it really is. I think they are very complimentary. Well, I think you want everything open for him. The same way like what Houston has done with Harden and Westbrook where they've just, they basically cleared it out so they can just operate and get to the basket. And Porzingis is a seven foot three guy. You want him near the basket,

but then they have them out 26 feet away. And it's like, is that the best use of him? He doesn't play near the basket. Well, but you want him near the basket. Well, they have a guy for that. That was DeLon Wright. No, but you want like near the basket. Well, they have a guy for that. It was DeLon Wright. No, but you want like inside-outside. I don't disagree.

They didn't. That's not, you know, the key to their offensive success. I mean, the Ringer NBA folks have touted this Dallas offense as potentially the greatest offense in the history of the league. Yeah, but that's...

They don't really have an inside out. That's regular season stuff, though. I'm talking about when we're actually in a playoff game and you have to close with three minutes left and you see what you saw in that Houston game. Which is Luka spread out one on five and Porzingis is 26

feet from the basket. I'm not sure that's a winning recipe. Anyway, let's go to golf quick. I'm not, I'm not sure that's a winning recipe, but anyway, uh, let's go to golf quick. Okay. So by the time people listen to this tomorrow, the second round will already be happening. I don't want to spend time talking about what happened in round one with golfers, things like that, but let's talk a couple of things just that we noticed with the course. You covered a lot of this on fairway Rolling, which has been excellent with you and Nathan Hubbard. And you were talking about this course, the weather. And then Nathan, who's on the ground there, who went there and he's been doing Instagram photos and stuff.

And he was telling us this morning, these guys are going to be completely screwed who are teeing off much later today because it's going to get windier. It's going to get colder. It's a huge disadvantage. And then we actually saw it. That's what happened. That's how it got borne out. So as we look, you know, the Friday thing, and then all those tee times are set for Friday, right? That was set in advance. Yes, yes, yes. But then when we get to Saturday and Sunday, you stack the guys who are way ahead. They always tee off last.

So they might be teeing off on Saturday and Sunday with the worst weather conditions. So we could see a scenario where somebody could be down six strokes on a Sunday, but you know, teeing off earlier in the day before the weather gets weird, where they might actually have a puncher's chance to come back. Am I overthinking that?

Or is that in play this year? No, it's a, it's definitely in play because of, of, um, the way this, this course, uh, you know, the defense of it is that wind coming in from off the water. And I guess there's two different directions that the wind can come from, but the thing that definitely matters is the golf course firms up over the course of the day. So that shots that, that the guys who play earlier have the benefit of softer greens, the wind is down a little bit, but

you can actually get balls to hold. Now there was a couple of rounds in the afternoon. Paul Casey went out and shot four under and you know, uh, uh, Bryson DeChambeau was, was four under at one point in his round. I mean, there were some decent scores to be had in the afternoon, but on balance, the morning guys did better than the afternoon guys, and I think that is going to be the prevailing dynamic. So your thesis that you're sort of postulating here of, you know, is it possible that somebody in an early round on Sunday could go out and put up a number,

go crazy low, just get hot fire pins? This golf course, if you can hit the fairway, then you have a good chance at scoring. I mean, Tiger was a good example of it. Tiger hit seven fairways in regulation today and hit all seven greens in regulation when he did that. And he was three under when he didn't hit the fairway. When he was in the rough, he was two over on the, uh, through on, on those, um, holes. And that's, that's the difference. That's the way this is going to play out. So God, if somebody gets, you on Sunday, for sure, go out, put up a number, and just hang on. Go in the clubhouse and wait.

A couple other things I noticed. The eighth hole seems like it's the ramming in your butthole hole. Every major has the ramming in your butthole hole. And in this tournament, it's the eighth hole, which is weird because usually it's in the back nine. But this time around, the eighth hole is going to be the hole that I think, especially heading into the turn and stuff like that. That's going to be a huge factor this weekend. Did you notice any other holes like that?

Or do you think that was the whole. No, I, I'm, I'm still sort of, you know, getting my arms around it. It was so enjoyable. And I'll just give a quick shout out to ESPN. For showing every hole. Hey, thank you. Here's a novel idea. I get to watch golf all day.

It was on on the East Coast from 10 in the morning until 10 at night. And through the combination of ESPN Plus and ESPN. And it was just such a wonderful thing to have a mature broadcast. So glorious. It was, but I I'm still getting my arms around. Um, you know, it looks like 18 is a great challenge hold. You could definitely make bogey on 18. Um, a lot of guys had to make long par putts. Tiger made a long par putt. John Rahm made a long par putt to stay even. But yeah, eight is awesome. I mean, eight really is the ramen in your butthole hole.

The ramen in your butthole. Tiger looked good compared to what maybe our worst fears were. And Koepka looked all right, too. Yeah, Koepka's four under. He looks better than all right. Yeah. We're going to have a lot of potential, uh,

you know, potential drama with some of the stars where, is there any, uh, party crashers you feel like the uninvited guest? No, I don't think so. This,

this, uh, Brett, Brendan Todd, um, is this, is a terrific story. He won twice on tour.

He had fallen way, way off in the world. Golf rankings is a great comeback story. And he was leading in Memphis last week. And then he fell apart in, in, in the final round. He's he's shot four or 500 today. I think he shot and finished at five under. Um, but I, I don't, I don't think he's going to hang in there but a lot of the big names that we were sort of

circling, Brooks, Bryson Xander Shoffley Tigers on the board Justin Rose, a major winner he's there Sugar Free Gary Woodland Sugar Free Gary Woodland is three under 27 pound

dropped during the pandemic. Unbelievable. He did two things that year just vehemently against. He gave up sugar. What was it? And there was one other food thing. Oh, fried foods. Well, the fried foods I couldn't do.

The sugar, I don't mind. I could see that. Fried foods, it's offensive though. That's off the list. Yeah, you can't do that. There's no chance. Well, I'm excited to could see that. Fried foods is an, it's offensive though. That's off the list. Yeah. You can't do that. There's no chance. Well, I'm excited to see what happens.

I love having the stars. The bummer for me, just cause I was really rooting for Rom. I was thinking about betting him 13 to one today. And then I saw where his tee time was. And I'd heard you and Nathan talking about the later tee times being a problem. And I, and you know, that was a good example. I think he was even, or he was somewhere around.

Even he finished even and he held on this pump. Yeah. Look, I look, let's, let's look at his live odds when we hang up. I'm not, I'm not against it.

He was plus one for a lot of the run there. And then it scratched his way back to even. Exactly. We liked that. That's major caliber fortitude right there. Interesting. Let's look at the live odds house. I look forward to texting you 130,000 times over the weekend.

As we try to figure out golf and basketball bets. This is great. We're back. We're back. We're gambling. It's so much fun. Our kids are never going to school again, but we're back.

I went into my son's room today and there was a smell and I have to go. I think there's like food under his bed or something. It's really getting grisly. It's starting to, it's starting to turn into silence of lambs at my house. I don't know what your house is like. My kid is in pajamas. Like literally, I can't. He might change into clothes that would be presentable for outside twice every six days.

Like, at most. He's right this second in the pajamas that he slept in last night. Why change? He's playing video games. He's doing the stuff with his pals. You want to go outside? Oh, it's raining. I'm not going outside. Okay. All right. My son kept getting more VC for NBA 2k and charging it to my PayPal. And I kept warning him how to, I kept warning him to stop, but the reality was I couldn't remember my PlayStation password. I couldn't stop him.

So finally, finally, I figured it out late last night and I took my PayPal off. I couldn't stop him. It's unstoppable. Finally, I figured it out late last night and I took my PayPal off and then I went into his room and I was like, Ben, this is it. This is your last stand. Let's just get $20 of VC stuff

and then that's it. That'll be it. He's like, okay, cool. Deal, deal, deal. So he puts it in and then it said you had no funds because I had already taken it off. And I was like, okay, cool. Deal, deal, deal. So he puts it in and then it said you had no funds because they had already taken it off. And I was like, ha, ha, ha. You got nothing. You have no job.

You have no money. You're not getting any VC stuff. He's got a broken foot. You're a dick. Well, he threw his controller at me. I'm sure. That sounds like Ben Simmons. I called him a broke cripple and I walked away. It's getting tense in my house. But yeah, this little shit kept he kept

sneaking thinking he was sneaking these 20 paypal purchases by me we've discussed this in the past yeah and i finally had to shut off the faucet like he was a crack addict i will tell you my kid who just had his 10th birthday over the weekend the level i'm worried about him already the level of sophistication he switched the currency so he plays this game roblox and yeah they they will give you the same number of credits in in in um mexican currency yeah which against the dollar is is is much cheaper like so rather than than let's say if it's a hundred US dollars, it's only 84, $85 in Mexican for the same quantity of, of things he's figured this out. And he's asking me to acquire things for him using the Mexican currency. And I'm like,

you know what? That's so smart. I'll do it. Look at you. You've won me over. You got it. What a case you presented. Wow. The pandemic, you know, there's been a lot of heartache, but some success stories too. Like how's the sun figuring out Mexican currency house.

I'll talk to you over the weekend. Thanks for staying up late and coming down with us. Oh, it's a pleasure. Oh, and don't forget about your golf podcast. Farewell. Sunday night recap.

Yeah, with Nathan, who's on the ground there. So look for that. All right. Thanks, As. All right. Thanks. All right.

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He made that point again in his latest special. What happened to the second R? How many times do you have to correct that over your 40 years? You know, sometimes I just turn down offers if it just comes in with two Rs. It's a good sign. It's a good sign to stay away. and it's not about scale love it a couple times i've let it slide but it's a tough this is already in my head i'm like nah i don't i don't like it i had that with me

some some people have called me Simons. Yeah. Instead of Simmons. I think with two Ms, it's pretty obvious it's a Simmons situation. I haven't seen any Simons with two Ms. Yeah. So if they do the Simons, I'm like, oh, you have no idea anything about me at this point. If you're going to call me a Simons.

Anderson. Anderson. Pac has a lyric on. What's the name of that? Yada, yada. Yeah. if you're going to call me assignments. Anderson, Anderson Pack has a lyric on, um, what's the name of that? Yada, yada. Yeah.

And it's, well, now if they, if they forget the dot, I'm charging double for the purchase. Like, and so I, I don't charge double. I just kind of ignore what came in.

What have you been doing during the pandemic? We're heading into next next week we'll be we'll finish month five on August 11th. It's fucking crazy. Now being home, it's been nice to get to

this zone and be home. I played tennis the other day for the first time. But I played just you know it was my first time so I said let's just just keep it alive no don't worry about regular rules let's just you know we just getting a sweat out here but that was fun uh I played video games NBA 2k uh I saw that I wanted to talk to you about that because that's been a lot of my summer as my son to really got into it over the last couple of months. And I just have a million

thoughts. I was just talking about my podcast the other day, these galaxy Opal cards and these goat cards that they give to people who weren't as great as, you know, in my opinion, didn't really totally deserve a superpowers card. But now the guys coming into the draft who aren't even NBA players yet, like James Wiseman has like a galaxy opal card and he's better than Hakeem Olajuwon. Oh, what are we doing? That my team stuff? Yeah.

I can't, my brain can't grasp it. I've been in there on, I've tried it. And then I was just, I didn was just I didn't get it I know that that means that they're good and you can assemble players but that mode hasn't grabbed me like that but they shouldn't be giving rookies that much clout

well it's basically like a scratch card mentality you know those scratch cards that have like 7-11's yeah so you have to like they especially get people like my son because my son's always like dad you know those scratch cards that have like 7-elevens yeah so you have to like that they especially get people like my son because my son's always like dad could i have could i have 20 dollars i gotta buy vc for the new goat packs and so they're praying and it's like oh the only way i can get this lebron whatever card yeah i buy these packs so then So then all these kids are trying to get the packs,

which then they can sell on this whole little weird eco system that they have. And it's a time suck. But you have to honor it because it's your son. You can't because it's his sports thing. And you had your collection in there. So you're like, yeah, here's the money. You can't. Well, especially during a pandemic because I just feel so bad for my kids.

Cause it's like, you know, my daughter's 50, my son's 12. And it's like, they, they can barely see their friends do anything. They can't, they can't be around kids their own age really. So it's like, you know, you end up being a little lax. Yeah, man. You gotta get them kids, get, get their friends tested, get their, get them a tested crew. Like this is the tested crew.

We just hang out with each other. Don't let nobody else into the crew. You'll be monitored, you know, just for your friend group. We kind of have done that. We have like a couple of families that you just kind of make choices. I'm sure you've done that in your own life where you kind of look around.

You're like, I trust these eight people. I know they're not going to be like at some secret rave until two in the morning. Yeah, you don't seem like you're a rave pandemic person. And we just, you know, we roll the dice. I think we should have to list the people in our life publicly, almost like when sports do, like there's an expansion draft and they protect eight to 10 people on the team. I think everyone in your life should know

whether they cracked your circle or not. You know, it's like a weirdly insightful moment on what your relationships are. It is, it is. But it's some folks that, you know, it is but it's some folks that you know i think now is some folks you don't even think about that you would have in your circle if they if they popped up out of nowhere yeah oh oh i forgot about you you forgot about you we should we should hang out you're definitely you're definitely not reckless. What? So have you, cause you released this comedy special on YouTube,

which was excellent. Miami nights. Um, but I'm sure, and I'm sure you're working on that during the pandemic, but now what happens? Cause I want to go back to the special a little bit, but now it's like, all right, we were at least in this for five, six more months. How do you be you? What do you do? I've been, um, just working on different concepts and ideas. I started doing this one, you know, me and a couple other comedian friends. It's called News Overload, where it's some news, but it's just also just conversational and we're framing it in the news.

These type of ideas that we can do remotely. I started a gang. I used to gamble a lot. I started a podcast with my uncle called Splitting Tens. He used to be a dealer at Chicago area casinos

for a while. He has some insane stories and that's a really wild perspective to view life from, is from the side of the dealer, watching people lose a couple hundred thousand and seeing just the emotions. So working on that and just trying to-

Wait, hold on. Can we pause that one? Yeah. I want to talk about Split Intense. Okay. I had no idea you were doing this. Yeah, I just...

I haven't put it out yet. Okay. I got a couple episodes recorded and I've been sending it around to some folks, but...

So it's all gambling? Gambling like war stories or like you're telling stories, he's telling stories? Like, what's the gimmick? It can vary. We'll have different guest stars.

So, you know, the first episode was me just getting his experience as a dealer and hearing about crazy stories. But we talk, you know, we talk sports betting. We talk craps and dice setting and rhythm shooting and all this other stuff and baccarat. And we get into it. So it's going to be, you know, the full gamut of gambling. What's your game when you're in a casino?

If we ever get to go back to a casino, what's your game? I was craps. I was playing a lot of craps and in sports. I stopped. I stopped gambling. It's been a year and a half now. Wait, is it? And you stopped drinking like a year and a half

ago too? I stopped drinking two and a half years ago. Next year, cut out gambling. So every year you're giving up something? Those were the two main ones. Those were taking up a lot of time and energy. Did you have to give up gambling or it was just a good idea for your welfare to give up gambling?

Just a good idea. Just, you know, seeing that I can channel that instinct and that behavior in the other aspects of life where I'll still be getting the rush and, and all the mental rewards to gambling without the, you know, chief action of throwing it on a, on a table or whatever, or just things that are more long-term, but still, still have the same kind of principles of they might not go well or they might go really well. So it took that because it's, yeah, being on tilt and, you know, looking up sports bets every day, being on forums,

it takes up a lot of mental energy that could be used elsewhere. Were you NBA, NFL, or were you everything? I was NBA, NFL. I was betting a lot of hockey. Hockey? Hockey is so hard to bet. It's like all those weird bunny lines and goal and a half.

I don't bet hockey. I got into it. I started in the Golden Knights first season. I was following them a lot and they did really well. So you rode them during their hot streak?

Yeah. A couple of my gambling buddies during that time, they started calling me Hockey Hannibal because I was hitting picks like that. I had a crazy couple-week run during that time. I've always stayed away from baseball and hockey because baseball has the weird pitching lines, and I've just never understood how people make money on those. Then hockey, especially because I had King season tickets

for three, four years. It's just so random. They're just skating around. Pucks are bouncing off. Somebody's lagging going in, and somebody's winning in double overtime, and it's like, I can't handle this. Those hockey, those empty net goals could really

change. That's where you a lot of times you'll make your puck line on that empty net goal and then they'll be up two. There was a classic one and we're taping this on a Monday. There was a Portland Celtics game.

Portland was plus four. They're down three with Boston makes two free throws. Portland's now down three with three seconds left. And we had Portland plus four and we're like, this is great. No matter what.

Dame will take a shot. Worst case scenario, we go to overtime and maybe we don't cover in overtime, but Dame probably missed and we cover. Nurkic is taking the ball out of bounds and just throws it 70 feet and it goes out of bounds. So now the Celtics have the ball under the basket, up three, favored by four.

They inbound, Tatum gets fouled. We're like, wait a second, we're going to lose on this? And he makes one or two two ends up being a push. My point is, you might have made a good move just getting out of sports gambling completely. Because I was so upset. It was just a random Sunday. I'm like, what just happened? Why'd you do that? Are you shaving

points? Why? Yeah, and there's no way the next day you were normal to everybody in your life the way they should have been treated whether you remember or not you might have had you might have been acting funny that for a couple days after a bad beat or a straight up beat you know yeah those it puts you in a weird zone i was a blackjack guy and still am i am a go to vegas all i want to do is a blackjack guy and still am. I am a go to Vegas.

All I want to do is play blackjack. And I'm not talking for like two hours. Um, I'm talking like the eight to 12 hours. The dealers are changing. I just, I'm just super happy playing blackjack. I zone out,

have some drinks. Um, I like to be there with at least one or two friends, a couple of the other seats shift the craps thing I would dabble in. Yeah. have some drinks. I like to be there with at least one or two friends, a couple of the other seats shift. The craps thing I would dabble in. Yeah. And I've had some great craps moments.

I think the problem with craps that's so seductive is if you've had that night at the awesome craps table. Yeah. Where just everything came together and it's like a movie. You want it again and again, and it's so hard to find and, and people chase it and they chase it. But then when it happens, you're like,

Oh, this is why I'm doing this. Yeah. The crabs. I want to jump back to blackjack real quick. Cause I, do you play the same amount each hand you just steady? Or do you have hunches and you triple up your bed or something like that

i usually i start out you know playing one hand and then as the night goes on i have a couple cocktails and then you kind of feel like the table the dealer all that stuff and eventually if things are going well i i i up it yeah do the two hands at once. The problem, though, is I don't know. I believe in all these rules. I've written about it a bunch of times. I don't know if I'm just a lunatic or if these rules are actually real

rules that work. I always feel like if the dealer is a shithead or is surly or is going too fast or just seems like they're not rooting for us, that that actually affects the cards? I have no evidence. I have no evidence at all.

And on the flip side, I feel like when I have a dealer that is engaging and feels like he's rooting for us and we're kind of connected, we're tipping him, I do feel like that has an effect. What does your uncle say about that? The speed dealing thing, I'm not a fan of that either. Because especially if you're just going heads up.

Yeah. And they're a speed dealer. If you take a bad run, that can get ugly real fast. Where you're like, this game is moving. I don't like how this is moving, right? It's kind of like in boxing. If you just get trapped in the corner for, but there's like a minute and a half left in the round.

You're like, oh my God, I just want to survive. I want to survive until the change. It's rough. He's talked a lot about people really, you know, sometimes people will ask the dealer in the moment, especially if there's a big bet up and they got, you know, they went for a max play. And of course, dealer's showing 10 or something.

You got 16 and the book says hit. And you ask the dealer to hit and then bust out. Then you want to blame the dealer. Why'd you tell me? Hey, you know, it was a suggestion. I didn't make you play. But sometimes it can feel like they're

pushing you, especially if you're in it already. There's been times where they'll do it real quick. But I'm like, oh, man. I know if i if that's how much i wanted to bet or if i wanted to bet more oh i was gonna i was gonna triple it up and then you get the blackjack on the ones that you you know play lower the way to win in blackjack is if you're having a run you have to up your bets yeah that's the only way. If there's some sort of magical thing happening and you can feel it, you have to step it up. But then there's these other rules.

Some people will double down every time. I will double down most of the times, but if the dealer is destroying me and nobody at the table is winning and it's like, oh, great, I get to double my bets where everybody is ice cold right now. Like sometimes I'll back off and then you could tell the dealer judges you a little bit for it. Yeah. I wonder about how many plays.

It has to be a lot. A lot of plays that people wanted to make in the moment, but didn't because of the social pressure to not split tens, to not double down on a 14 or this thing that you felt as a hunt, but you're like, oh, I got these people around

me, they're all so bad, they might do that, then they ruin it, da-da-da-da, and then you just, like, hit, and then you hit a 6-7, and you're like, oh, I should've... Right. Because it's social. People don't want to do things that aren't

socially acceptable. I usually like sitting at third base because I like to see the cards before me and I also know that I'm not going to fuck up at third base because if you have that person in third base who's just doing weird shit and screwing up the whole hand for the table, it can shift really fast.

Has anybody ever like tried to like fight your uncle or like been really mad or thrown chips at him or like flipped out in any way or no? Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure that's happened, right? Yeah. Something, something is definitely went down. He's gotten into some fights, and he's got some stories about some athletes not to be named

that have taken shots at him. Taking shots means trying to fake a play and not because they try to make it seem like they won when they really lost. Right, right, right. Yeah, he's got some wild stories, man. Just even seeing you usually don't get to hear

what it's like to look at somebody while they are losing 350. And you're losing 350,000 and you're just 350,000 and you just watching them and, and they just crumbling in front of you. Usually you're a gambler, you next to somebody just watching, but when you have to, it's a lot of energy to take on. I think as,

as a job, you know, seeing eight hours a day and it's just people being impulsive right in front of you. It's a lot. Well, one thing the Vegas, the bigger casinos did, especially on the strip in Vegas, is they made all these subtle tweaks to the rules to try to shift the percentages toward the house. And Vegas was turning into a place

where you almost had to find a little bit off the beaten path casinos that had the old school odds right three to two blackjack um yeah the ability to split aces but it's your decision little things like that that really actually help you but if you're at like one of the giant casinos they're just looking for every way to squeeze you because they know you're on the strip it's pain in the ass to leave take You got to get in the cab line. He's like, ah, fuck it.

I'll just gamble here. And then meanwhile, they've shifted the percentages imperceptibly against you. It's frustrating. Yeah, I would be, you know, I would, at my heaviest, I would definitely be researching on forums like, which

strip casino has this and which ones can you play multiple hands at the minimum bet and all these different things and looking at sports books, which book got the best line for this one right here. I look back like that was a lot of time I spent on, on that, that research for the Idaho state. You know, what's funny about craps though, when you're craps profiling, whoever the shooter is trying to decide just by staring at them, whether they seem lucky or not, you're like, Oh, that guy has a hot girlfriend. I bet he's going to go on a roll.

Yeah, I do that all the time. Yeah. Oh, no, that person looks trash. It's an energy thing. Yeah, or he seems sad. Yeah, he seems sad. He doesn't seem like he even believes it. I think women are usually good for at least one.

I agree. I feel like at least I rarely see a woman just straight up crap out right away on the first go. They usually hit either 7-11 once or hit the point once. I think that's that might be 75%. I feel like that is. Where do you stand on the don't come line guy? The guy who's by himself just going don't come

against everybody. Basically rooting against everyone at the table and winning when they crap out. He's got to keep it cool. So he can't celebrate. Keep it cool. Keep it quiet quiet don't talk to nobody just play your don'ts and if you win get your chips and keep that shit quiet what nba star is most likely to bet the don't come line who's most likely to uh bet the don'ts?

Former San Antonio Spurs power forward, Tim Duncan feels like a don'ts player. It's probably somebody that's incorporated advanced metrics in their own game and all the data. Because the reality is don't come is probably a better way to bet. It's just not fun at all. It's the most antisocial thing you can basically do in a casino. Yeah. And it's gotten adversarial with me and other people sometimes.

If I'm shooting, especially if I feel like I'm in a hot zone. Yeah. And I'll throw, I say, you need to take your money off that shit, man. Take your money up. And then there's been times where I made them have to pick their shit up, and they're kind of stubbornly going for the don'ts, and you hit like three in a row. You're like, pick your shit up, dog.

It's going to be a mess right here for you. And then we was like, we're not going against each other We're going against the house What the fuck is this? I'm arguing with this other dude Yeah, you need more rivals Isn't that the enemy? He's not the enemy

When you're on a roll And then somebody kind of shows up They hear there's some applause There's some excitement, and they show up and they start throwing bets around, but you're in your role. You're in a groove. It's almost, it's almost like you're a, you're a jump shooter. You've made a few. And then this dude's coming in and be like, hold on. I got to spread my shitty $10 bets into 20 places and knock you out of your

momentum for 30 seconds. I hate that guy. Yeah. That's why I don't like blackjack solo, but I like to have a solo craps table. Because then you can really get in your rhythm and start shooting for numbers.

It's times where I really am just shooting for 6-8 and feeling it and calling it and it keeps on, you know, it keeps coming and shit. That's why I like solo and I am right next to the stick person

for the shortest distance from there to the wall. What's that guy's name? The stick person? Is that what he's called? I never knew what the actual job title was for that. The reason I'm talking about this so excitedly is we're in month five of the pandemic. I would love to be at a casino playing blackjack and being around the action.

I don't even know when that comes back. There's a lot of video poker, it seems like, happening right now, which just is not as satisfying. I know a couple of folks who's been to Vegas. Yeah? Yeah. What do they have? The glass dividers between the things? How do they do it?

I think it varies from casino, but one of my friends was at, because he had a good hit. My friend Kevin Bozeman had a good hit on a four-card poker, Lucky Sevens or something. He sent the pitch, but it wasn't no plexiglass or anything. I think just folks wearing masks. I mean, I'm not playing, but I had this, it was a card counting documentary that I watched on Amazon.

And that made me, if the world was normal, that would have sent me to Vegas. I would have sped to Vegas after watching that. I would have just like, okay, I'm a card counter too, even with no prep. That's because I jump into things without the required prep sometimes. Oh, I should have worked on this more. Yeah, I am jealous of the card counters.

There's a couple celebrities that apparently can do it in a real way. Well, I think Affleck has been kicked out of casinos. Yeah. But I think in general, I wish there was more card counting movies. I wish there was more Vegas gambling.

I just don't feel like we've made enough of them. I've seen all of them. You saw the one... What is it called on Amazon? Is it a documentary or a movie? Documentary. I haven't seen the Card County documentary. It was pretty good. It's Inside the Edge, it's called.

A Professional Blackjack Adventure. Sorry for spoilers. You can imagine it's this guy, you know, getting kicked out of places a lot. But it still is fascinating to see it happen that many times. We like, damn, you can stay getting kicked out. It's in a way, it's a badge of honor. Absolutely. If they're like, nope, this is not what we need, we can't do it.

We can't do it with you here. You need to leave. I think it's crazy that people aren't allowed to count cards, though. Where it's like the casinos have every edge possible, and then somebody can go in there and just be like, have a general sense of what's in the six-card chute.

And I always call it a chute shoot even though it's a shoe. It's one of my things. But that somebody can mentally just process what might be in there and they're like, no, no, you got to go. You got to go. It's like, I'm not cheating.

I'm not replacing cards with a different card. I'm just using my brain. How is that illegal? Yeah, casinos are too flimsy. Because there's no I'm just using my brain How is that illegal? Yeah, casinos too, you know It's too flimsy Because there's no product So anything that attacks

It's just experience So if you're messing with that And like, no, you gotta You gotta go Do you remember your first Vegas trip? How old were you? I was I was 19 or 20.

And it was 2002 or 2003. Oh, that's right. When Vegas was kind of, things were happening. Yeah, but it wasn't a trip in that way. I had submitted, I had auditioned for this comedy festival, the Las Vegas Comedy Festival. I was going to school in Carbondale. So I auditioned in St. Louis, an hour and a half away. And they had a college comedian category. I had only been doing comedy a year or so. And so the prize was to get to go to Vegas and perform at this comedy festival.

That was my first kind of time flying for comedy. And so I played a little bit of blackjack at like 10 bucks or maybe two $10 hands. And I was under eight. And so I lost the second hand. I think I lost both. I lost the second hand since it was 10 bucks and I was 1920 I was like damn it! Oh he must be a kid and as soon as I said damn it! Can we see your ID? They put me out. After that outburst. That'll probably be my son in a couple years. What led to the comedy special you just did being a YouTube thing versus being on a streaming service?

It was pretty close to being on a streaming service. But then the world started crumbling. And so let me try putting it out like this and just see what it'll do on YouTube and try and mix it up a little bit. So it might end up on a stream or down the road later this year, next year or something, but I just kind of wanted to put it out first. When did you record it?

I recorded it in August of last year at Olympia Theater in Miami. When did you record it? And I didn't end up liking it, so I scrapped it, which was a pretty expensive decision to make. But it didn't feel right. Just that show and what we were trying to do, it didn't come across in that first tape. And so we had to scrap it. And then did another tour in July, beginning of August, and recorded it again. There's some bells and whistles in this show. When you're in the audience for it,

are you getting the same stuff that I'm getting on YouTube with the auto-tune? It's this exact same experience, right? There's a little bit more stuff in the in the actual in the special there's a couple added in things yeah and then also in the special there's some bits that you know didn't make it but right for the most part yeah i was trying to you know enhance bits and and and surprise people a little bit and just make it

real fun and have a different energy to it. Especially in the live show, when certain things hit, you could tell the real surprise from people because it's fun like that.

I really enjoyed it. It was one of those, all of a sudden you were saying goodnight and I was like, wait, what? I thought I had like 10 minutes left. The last 20, basically last 20 minutes or so of the special,

you talk about how you got arrested for, I guess, what was it called? Drunken disorderly conduct? Disorderly. Disorderly intoxication. Yeah. Um, and you just lay out the entire story in painstaking detail. Yeah. Um, with, you know, your take on everything, but you're using pictures,

you're using a video from the TV coverage of it and all the misreporting, the background of the cop, who then he has some shady stuff pop up and it's just laid out. It's like a 20 minute, basically a verbal assassination of the entire experience. It was really good. How much time did you put into that? I mean mean i started doing the material probably right after that happened uh that was in december 2017 and so then i had a show in chicago around new year's eve where i probably i told a rough version of it and then yeah i was just adding to it you know was telling a story, then that news thing came out a

month afterwards. I was like, why y'all? It was really leaning into this bullshit arrest, the news coverage of it. It felt it was upset. I was really just starting to wind

down about that shit. It was a month later, and it was like, here's more from that bullshit arrest. Right. Damn. So, yeah, it took a, you know, and still always tweaking it and figuring out different parts. So over the course of a couple years, got that together. And it's just something that, yeah, it was a bs arrest and it got dropped without me even i never even showed up to court or anything so the fact that they dropped it

like that fast shows that they're you know that's a failure in their system. It was just who they had operating for them at that time that they don't really stand with what he did. So. It's a lot of petty policing or contempt of cop type situations, you know, where their ego gets involved and it allows them to just use that system to their advantage just because they have that on you. It's not just words. It's like you say something and then you're like, oh, I have handcuffs. It was like, oh, I thought we were just

speaking. Right. So that's that. We put together... I'm suing the miami police and i saw that that just came out a couple days ago yeah just because i don't you know i did actually i lost a decent gig because of that because we weren't fully closed and who knows what the other effects have it. But beyond now, I don't think he should have been a police officer when I ran into him. Just based on the type of shit he had going on before, we never should have even interacted like that. Because he's, you know, I don't think he's fit

for the gig so you taped all this a few months ago and then about two, two and a half months ago all of a sudden this country is going through this moment and you have all this material and this comedy especially

you haven't released yet that's basically in the ballpark of what the conversation is. I, one of the things I appreciated about listening to it was you just had this own story, but it was in a context of before everything that happened for the last two and a half months, but it was still really relevant to everything that happened in the last two and a half months, but you weren't overt about it. You know what I mean? Yeah. but you weren't overt about it. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, it just happened to a lot. It happened to be really relevant because of the times, but it's one of those things where it would have been, unfortunately, it's an ongoing conversation.

So, yeah, it's wild, man. I just, uh, yeah. I mean, you see, oh, he was choking motherfuckers in bars and like the real, like not to repeat it, but the motherfucker that arrested me was running away from the police recently. After a bar fight? Yeah, after a bar fight. What? The whole thing is, and even beyond, he followed me into the bar. He escalated the situation when the shit was done. He said, because I'm too drunk.

He was like, okay, well, you can't go into the bar. So I can't go into a bar in front of your eyes is what you're saying. Because if I walk down the street and go to another place, so it's just BS, man. But we'll see how it goes. Was that the first time something like that's happened to you?

No. No. No. I mean, I've had scenarios when I was a teenager and really not doing anything and just getting stopped by the police while jogging. My one or two years of being in shape in high school when I was prepping for football season, I was just on a jog. And then cops just pull up. Where are you going? Where are you going? I'm just jogging. We had a break in.

There's other times where I was, you know, just come from shopping with my Burger King check and I was up on not too far from my neighborhood, but it's a different neighborhood the neighborhood has a different ethnic composition. So you see a black

kid up there and then you're like, what's these bags? And I was just coming from buying some shit from work. I just got pulled over for no reason. One time was just funny because there was a for no reason. One time was just funny because

there was a Toys R Us that was at the Brickyard Mall by my place. I had a stealing phase in high school where I was just kind of stealing. Just because of the rush.

I went to Toys R Us and I took this handheld fishing game. And that's just because of the rush. And so I went to Toys R Us and I took this. It was some handheld fishing game. And I got the game. I get out the store, find and then maybe it's a block up. I see my friends across the street. I run up to catch up with them. Then a police car comes. I see the police. And then I start running. They catch me.

And then they're like, where's the shit? Where's the shit? They're like patting me down. They got the game. They're like, where's the shit? I don't know. I thought they were coming after me for stealing the game. They just thought, they were like, oh, he's running up to you.

He has crack or something. He has that. They were searching for drugs. Oh, Jesus. And so meanwhile, I ran. They don't have no idea I stole this fucking game. And I was like, damn, if I just kept it cool I stole this fucking game. Where do you... And I was like, damn, if I just kept the code,

everything would be fine. How do you see the next few months playing out here? Next few months? Just in general, in this country. I don't know, man. Even in the situation, it's just... I saw somebody online

they had a thread going like what are crazy things you thought about the pandemic in March just from a work standpoint I was really planning on touring in the fall okay this is going to be a couple months but then

fall touring is going to be crazy and because so many people couldn't tour in the fall. Okay, this is going to be a couple months, but then fall touring is going to be crazy. And because so many people couldn't tour in the spring, then that means that there's going to be a lot of secondary markets that's going to get really good shows that they don't really don't get. So I was thinking, oh man, because people are going to have to play, you know, Little Rock, Arkansas, because everything else is booked up. I had this whole idea of how Toro would be. And it was very far off. As far as the country, I don't know, man.

This shit is going to get tense no matter what around election time time it's gonna be weird that's when i think i'm i'm uh i plan on leaving the country for a few months in october good move uh just to you know be in a different zone and and yeah go somewhere. Maybe I think by October, things will open up. We'll be able to go somewhere that might have handled this properly or we'll see. The crazy thing about election night is election night will be like election month because there's no way they'll know who won on that night like we would in a normal thing. Right. So all the tension leading up to that day is going to be the whole month. Yeah.

And then even if he loses, he's not going out smoothly. Yeah, he'll say something shady happened or there was a miscount, all that stuff. What'd you think of how the NBA handled the last few days? The NBA. I noticed that they, well, I don't know if this is with every tape or not, but I saw the Bucks versus who played Friday.

They played the Rockets on Friday. Bucks played. No, they played the Rockets Sunday. The Bucks beat up somebody on Friday. Wellucks played... No, they played the Rockets Sunday. The Bucks beat up somebody on Friday. I watched it. I've watched so many games, I can't even remember. I didn't know... Was it coincidental

that both white players on those teams, they had to wear the Black Lives Matter on the jersey. Other teammates had equality and various things. Yeah, they I think they had like 28

different slogans. You could pick one of the slogans. Yeah. It's you know, it forces the convo and I was just thinking about how this is at some point, this is going to be old footage.

You know, these games are going to be old. And, you know, look back 30 years from now for ESPN Classic. Right. And then people have to have the conversation again or talk or at least talk about what it was? And why is he, you know, why does he have education reform on his jersey? People had to talk about the time that keeps it going. Yeah, it's I mean, it's been nice to have sports back. I think the conversations have been handled really well

and the dialogue that's been started. And there's been a sense of normalcy to it, even though nothing's normal, right? And even the games aren't normal and all the stuff they're doing, the lead up to the games, things like that. But then ultimately you get to watch these guys hoop and it feels like, all right,

well, at least this feels like kind of what life used to be like before March. Yeah. But if you're, you know, if you're like ninth, tenth man, you know, and you're just trying to, a lot of people watching basketball now, you, casual fan might not get to. More pressure. to get dunked on with justice on your Jersey or yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be some interesting posters when people get dunked on with

these, these new jerseys. So we can find your comedy special Miami nights on YouTube, on YouTube. It's got, it's doing very well. It's in, it's in seven figures.

The, the, uh, seven figures. And then some, the amount of people that have watched it and then, uh, and then stay tuned for everything else.

Right. It seems like you're up to stuff. I feel like you're hiding things from me. You got a couple of big projects going right now. Those are, those are my big projects. News overload. Okay.

Uh, the podcast splitting tens. I'm trying to find out, I'm trying to find a home for that. Whether I'm going to put it out independently or, or find a spot for it. Uh, and yeah,

just that's, those are the main things. And 2K. And you've won 70 straight games in 2K. 2K, oh yeah. Clickbait. I'm trying to really goofy level of clickbait for my YouTube channel just to see

how that process goes. And then now, since stuff is locked down, for 2K21, now I'm already planning video gaming with my friends.

Are we going to do this series? Let's do a video a week. Okay, we film on Thursday evenings, and now for the first time ever, I'm playing in video gaming months ahead of time. But I guess that's what it is to be almost 40 and playing video games.

You got to structure that shit. Have you played an NBA player in 2K? Who's the most famous person you've played in 2K? I don't... Who have I played? I don't who have I played I don't know I've played some I haven't played

I haven't played any players seems like you need to start a league you need to start a little little mini celebrity league I was like yeah you're right I should organize it you should challenge some people

yeah let's put it on the table see who's good get everything organized right I was fascinated I think it was like the second month with the pandemic when they ran You should challenge some people. Yeah. Let's put it on the table. See who's good. Get everything organized, right? I was fascinated. I think it was like the second month with the pandemic when they ran, they started running the 2K games between the NBA players.

Yeah. And a couple of them were really good. Like really good. And you're thinking like, I can't even imagine how much they're gambling on this, like on a road trip or whatever. Like they're in some hotel room at two 30 in the morning and like Sacramento was like, Hey,

come up to my room. Let's go. But, uh, but I was impressed that, uh, that there was a couple of the sons were really good. They had some teammate battles.

I think Deandre Ayton played, uh, Devin Booker, but, uh, it was pretty high level. Yeah, I saw Patrick Beverly was talking a lot of trash on there. Yeah, he just talks trash anywhere, I think.

Yeah. He's probably in the grocery store talking trash to people. He just needs to do it, especially when there's no basketball. He's got to work that muscle. Hannibal, it was good seeing you. Good seeing you too, Bill. Congrats on this special. Good luck with too, Bill. Congrats on the special. Good luck with the YouTube channel.

Thanks a lot. All right. Thanks to Spotify. Thanks to Hannibal Buress. Thanks to Joe House. Thanks to the Rewatchables podcast, which I forgot to mention. We put up two this week.

We did Teen Wolf and we did The Sandlot. The Teen Wolf one I'm really proud of. It's the deep dive you never knew you really wanted for a 35-year-old ridiculous 80s movie. So check those out. Coming back on Sunday night with Russillo, talking about bubble basketball and the PGA tournament and a whole lot more. Enjoy the rest of the week. See you on Sunday. Bye. On the wayside On the first sun I never lost And I don't have to ever forget