The Bill Simmons Podcast - Boston Beats L.A., Dodger Stadium Tales, and Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal | The Bill Simmons Podcast (Ep. 435)

Episode Date: October 29, 2018

HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons calls up Cousin Sal to discuss the Boston Red Sox winning another World Series, World Series MVP candidates, and tales from Dodger Stadium, before guessing the NFL lines for week 9. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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until we get to the actual Oscars four months from now. Coming up, we're going to call the cuz. Cousin Sal, who also was at tonight's Dodger game. We're going to talk about the World Series, and then we're going to play a little game called Guess the Lines. But first,

my good friends from Pearl Jam. All right, Cousin Sal's on the line. We're doing this late. It is 10.38 p.m. Pacific time. Right now, as we speak, we both went to Dodger Stadium. As usual, it took hours and hours to get out. I think some people are still there. It's like walking dead.

You just kind of, people leave their cars, and they just walk looking for water. Sal, I'm surprised you went with a Boston team up 3-1. I'm surprised you even wanted to be in the building for that. I know. I'm surprised, too. But, you know, I had my boy, my 13-year-old son. I was like, you know what? It's nice for him. That'll be my hedge.

He'll maybe get to see a team close out a World Series. How many times in your life can you say that? If not, maybe the Dodgers win. It's kind of exciting for the home crowd. But congratulations to you. I think we should warn people that, you know, like before a risque episode, they'll say like adult nudity or,

you know, the adult language or nudity, whatever, like this insufferability wise, this is going to rank high as far as podcasts go, right? Oh, come on.

Why? Yeah. No, I could tell already by all your tweets and everything else. This is going to be else I did two tweets today I will say this I didn't have a lot left in the tank emotionally after Friday night

Friday night was one of the craziest sporting events I can ever remember with the Boston team the 18 innings winning and losing that game 19 different times. And just the length of the game, as you know, the playoff baseball,

when, when it's like every pitch like that to, to do that for three to four hours is rough, but seven, the two, three, two is a killer, especially because the way they set it up,

you got Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. So your whole weekend, if you're lucky, you're only watching 12 hours of baseball. But as it was, we watched 17 or 18 hours, right? Yeah. And I've heard the case. Obviously, Boston's had a lot of success this century. And people are like, wow, it shouldn't mean that.

It's not life or death anymore. It's like, well, I'm just not wired that way. I care about sports. Yeah, right. I like rooting. I have my favorite teams. I have teams I gamble on, and I root for those teams. That's what I like to do.

So the Friday night, the Kinsler base running fiasco, and then just like, oh, man, that's a bad red flag. And the last thing you want to do is let the Dodgers back in the series. And then, you know, having the winning out

in your glove and the guy has, it was almost like the Seinfeld episode when Kramer hears Mary Hart's voice and he just starts lurching around

in Jerry's living room and it's flailing around and falls over. Kinsler had like a spat. I've never I watch baseball. I've been watching it since I was four. I've never seen a second baseman ever do anything like that in my life. You think he heard Larry King

flam like as a cough clearing his throat? It's just unbelievable. It's like all we need is we just want out. We just need a ground ball. I'm yelling ground ball at the TV because I felt like it was going to happen. People got on Cora for not pitching around them, but I feel like if Kinsley plants his foot, the game's over, right?

Yeah, but with that said, they should have pitched around him. But I'm not going to second guess Alex Cora, who's a White Walker. But, yeah, my preference would have been to pitch around him and pitch to one of the two terrible hitting Dodgers catchers who can't hit anything. But I, you know, and then it goes into extra innings. And of all the, it was one of the most courageous things I've seen from a Boston athlete.

I just, especially he's a free agent. He's got all this money on the line. And all the guy wants to do is pitch. And he's out there. He especially he's a free agent. He's got all this money in the line and all the guy wants to do is pitch and he's out there. He thinks he's starting game four. They bring him in to go for the kill in game three, which I agreed with. Cora went for the kill the whole season. That's just how he's wired. And of all these just out there, he throws a hundred pitches. I've never seen anything like that. And then you read the stories the next day. And like Porcello said, he was crying in the club. Did you read some of this stuff? No, he was, Porcello was crying? Yeah.

When, when Evaldi gave up that, you know, he comes out for his seventh inning, gives up the home run. There's video. He comes back to the dugout. All the teammates are waiting for him and they're all like, they're just like, you know, half appreciation teammates are waiting for him and they're all like, they're just like, you know, half appreciation, half consoling him, but all of them are just like, just overwhelmed by what he did for them.

He looked like he was getting stronger as the innings wore on, right? You could hear him grunting in the last two innings, which I can't remember not just from him, but very rarely do you hear that with anything, but in the locker room after they were all talking about you know

how much that meant to him that he just kept going out there and Porcello was talking to a reporter just started crying so I think in a weird way

he should have been the MVP of the series it was a weird one to figure out who the MVP was and Pierce ended up winning well it's not Porcello

for crying I mean it's just one of a bunch of I knew you would hate that part I knew you would hate that part of the story I like it Pierce ended up winning the MVP Well, it's not Porcello for crying. I mean, it's just one of a bunch of I knew you would hate that part. I knew you would hate that part of the story. I like it.

I like it a lot. Pierce ended up winning the MVP, but I actually thought Price was a better choice than Pierce just because he, especially three days rest,

he pitched him relief in game three. I thought for sure. Yeah, he had two quality starts and no one expected him to have any quality starts and he didn't embarrass

himself in that 18 inning game, right? Or the, you know. No, he was good in that. He brings a lot of emotion and leadership to the team. Even yesterday, he wanted to stay in, or tonight, he wanted to stay in

and ended up they let him hit so he could keep pitching. Next inning, he got the guys out. He was walking off. He's screaming. They really fed off him. I thought he could have been the MVP, but I really would have voted for Ivaldi

because I think what, first of all, game one, game two, and then game three, what he did in game three, I really think it lit a fire under the team. I think he was the emotional MVP. Maybe he was the MVP of the series, but I think none of them want to let him down. Dave Roberts should share that MVP award a little.

He was terrible. Aside from Dave Roberts, and especially in baseball, you see this a lot, many accomplishments get overlooked. What Bueller did in the first half of that game Friday and what Vivaldi did in the second half, that became the BNC story when Muncy hits the home run and what Rich Hill did yesterday. Same thing. It didn't matter.

It all went down the wayside because it didn't factor into the result. He made a lot of mistakes I was happy that he made. I thought the way he used the pitchers, especially game two, he took out Baez when Baez had just struck out

two guys in a row. Or maybe it was game one. One of those first two games, he took out Baez when Baez had just struck out two guys. Brought in, I think, Madsen. All this stuff's blending together now. But... Madsen was the key. Every time he brought him in, that guy hasn't been good in 10 years.

You should know after now 180 games in six months who you absolutely can't have out there to get two, three outs. Totally. And Madsen's your guy. Yeah, I mean, we have guys like that. You didn't see them. You never saw Drew Pomeranz in this series.

There was a reason. We weren't going to pitch him. We played an 18-inning game, and they wouldn't put him in. So that was bad. But I thought the key to the series was how the Red Sox used their starters as relievers and the Dodgers just wouldn't do it. Like, even yesterday, Dodgers have a 4-0 lead.

Now, whether he should have kept Rich Hill in or not, you know, Roberts basically said Rich Hill told him he was tired and he was monitoring it. And I went to game four and the fans were really grumbling about. They hate Roberts. Well, they were just like, Richo was throwing one hitters, like lights out, you know? And they were like, what the F? Why are you, why are we going to our terrible bullpen?

But I really thought that would have been a great spot to bring in the, the guy who started game two. Was that Ria, Ryu? Ryu. Ryu. Yeah. You know, my pronunciation. He was another one I got Ria? Ryu? Ryu. Yeah. You know, my pronunciation is like that. He was another one I got taken out early, I thought.

Yeah. Yeah. He didn't even throw that many pitches in game two. I would have brought him in and I would have been more scared to see him over some of the guys they brought in and. Right. In the late inning. So that was weird.

The funny thing is with baseball, the way they pitch the postseason and taking guys out after one inning and one, when the Brewers had Wade M taking guys out after one inning and one – the Brewers had Wade Miley after one at bat. If this went on in the regular season, baseball would be dead. If these games are like five hours long and they manage and coach like the way they do in October, forget it. 10% of the audience would stick with it.

Well, that – and Cora was the most go for the kill I think I've ever seen in the playoffs. Like, just, he, he, he, Price brings it to sale. If this had gone six or seven, I think he would have, he would have brought in guys in game seven who pitched in game six. Like, he just doesn't care.

Yeah. The, the thing, I didn't think Cora did a great job in game three. And the thing he did that I really hated was when he pinch ran for JD with Kinsler because it's not like Kinsler's Ricky Henderson but it was a tie game and it was just how many times

has that happened to a team that you rooted for where you take out that bat and you just know that spot's coming up again and it's like oh yeah we don't have him anymore I gotta take it out but yeah Cora and you just know that spot's coming up again. And it's like, oh yeah, we don't have him anymore. He got taken out. Exactly, yeah. But yeah, Cora, other than that, he was lights out. And I think the team really just fed off his,

I've never had a manager like that. He's the best manager they've ever had. I thought Francona was the best, but. We discussed it after game two, like who's going to be the MVP? And JD Martinez was the favorite. And you're like, well,

Ben attendee should be the favorite. And he's, he's just done everything we've asked them to the first two games. And then they have to make a decision. We, I thought JD Martinez wasn't playing and Ben attendee didn't play like something that has to give with this national league ballparks. But when the,

the leading, the odds, odds on favorites, when the MVP can't even play in a world series game or two of them, like that, something's wrong there. Yeah, and Cora didn't – he made it so that in three and four, the guy who was sitting, when he pinch hit, he couldn't have double switched them to take the other guy out

because they weren't staggered in the lineup. So Bradley only – I don't even think he played today. But in game four, like he just had one at bat and he was gone. But, uh, so there's gotta be some way to stagger it when you have four good outfielders like that, where when one guy comes in, you can still keep, I don't know, something they, but, um, I suggested just have them lay on the warning track and just,

just not get stepped on. I won't be in your way. Here I am. I'm going to sit crisscross applesauce and just don't run over me. He's my ninth guy. Well, I thought J.D. I thought he should have benched J.D. and gone with the outfield defense. And then when J.D. misplayed that trip, I was like, see, I told you.

And then J.D. hit a homer. And as usual, Alv's score is smarter at baseball than him. I don't know how they won in five, getting five innings from Chris Sale and really nothing from Betts and Martinez until tonight.

And Bogarts, whatever was going on with him, it just doesn't make a lot of sense. Joe Kelly, much maligned, just becomes unstoppable again in October. That was weird of what Evaldi was able to do coming out of the bullpen

when he's never really been a bullpen. It really was. It is funny. We always say this year after year about these World Series where every guy chips in. It really does. That always ends up as who wins the World Series, right? Like your 15th through 22nd guys

all have some sort of weird impact. Well, and especially, like you saw, that game, that Friday game, that screwed up everyone's average. Like everybody came out of that game one for seven. So everybody's postseason average was like 160 come game four. So that's why I was most surprised it didn't go to a pitcher.

It went to Pierce and not Price. Well, for me this weekend, after that Friday game, I mean, shit, I can't even imagine what it would have been like to be in Boston and go to bed at like 3.30 after that game. I know. But then you wake up the next go to bed at like three 30 after that game. I know. But then you wake up the next morning and all of a sudden there's another game. And it's like,

I need like a week to recover from one of the worst sports losses I've had. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Oh my God. And you just back at it in a weird way. It's actually kind of a good thing, you know?

But at the time I was like, wow, that Kinsler, the Kinsler throw is going to be one of the most iconic, terrible Red Sox plays of my life. You know, but at the time I was like, wow, that Kinsler, the Kinsler throw is going to be one of the most iconic, terrible Red Sox plays of my life. And now, now it doesn't matter at all. Cause they won the world series.

But, um, I took my Sunday game for, they're down for nothing. I was actually posting Instagram stories about it. Puig hits the homer following the terrible error at first base. And I gotta be honest. I was like,

Oh my God, we're actually going to lose the world series. And I got to be honest, I was like, oh my God, we're actually going to lose the World Series because of that stupid 18 inning game. That 18 inning game was like worth four losses somehow. It's completely destroyed our team. And Puig gets that homer. He could kind of feel it coming. They left Erod in.

Erod was great. And they left him in one batter too long. It's 4-0. And my son is like, honestly, ready to cry. Remember when you're 10 years old, how much sports bet? Like you just take everything so personally. Right. And I'm like, hey, if we don't, you know,

if we can't pull off anything these next two innings, we should probably think about leaving after the eighth. If it's like 6-0 or 7-0, we should just get out of here. I don't want to deal with the Dodger fans. He's like, we're not leaving. So he got like, I kind of liked it. We should just get out of here. I don't want to deal with the Dodger fans. He's like, we're not leaving. So he got like, I kind of liked it. He kind of dug deep.

Nice. But, uh, Moreland hit that bomb. Dodger fans got super quiet. And that's when I felt like, oh shit. Cause,

cause I recognize the science. So you can fit, you can see you have it with the Mets now. Cause I think what's it 32 years. So you, with that sense of dread, when something bad's happening, and all the history and all the bad losses kind of start coming into play.

Moreland hit that bomb, which was one of the farthest homers I've seen in Dodger Stadium. They hit some rockets, even today. Yeah, a couple of big ones. Moreland hits that bomb, and they're still up by a run, and it killed the crowd.

And you could just feel that tension. And that's like one of the best, it's why baseball is unlike any other sport. When a moment like that and you just feel the history. And that Dodgers, you're talking 30 years and just a ton of devastating losses this decade.

They've had some awful ones. Game five against the Astros last year was one of the worst losses of the last 20 years of baseball. And then this one to blow four nothing and you just get your ass kicked. And then we bring in our closer who can't even get three outs anymore.

And they almost came back with the Dick T's comeback. But their fans were fucking angry at the end of that game. I recognized it. Here's what I'll say. When Puig gets the home run and they go up 4-0, they're probably a minus 1,500 to win. Yeah.

Three seconds later, or a second later, when Eduardo Rodriguez slams his mitt on the mound, that should go to minus 5,000. Because when does a team come back from that and win? That was outrageous. We had no relievers.

We had burned out everybody in the last game, so you knew Evaldi's not going. We had Brazier available, it was like, oh, maybe Joe Kelly for an inning. And Joe Kelly ends up pitching these two huge innings. Right. And kind of kept us into it. Joe Kelly arguably could have been World Series MVP.

Every time he pitches, he lights out. I really think it should have gone to a pitcher. I mean, I liked it better than last year. Like last year, you can't really blame Dave Roberts for changing pictures because some of those Astros games were like 11-9 and 9-8. It was terrible, you know, 14-3. It was crazy. Nothing's worse than watching your team when a pitcher can't get 8 and out.

I liked Friday night's game much better with the same kind of tension in it. Friday's game was, I've never seen anything like that. The Red Sox, their top of their lineup was 0 for 28. Yeah. The entire game, the first four guys in their lineup went, the first four spots went 0 for 28. Bogarts made nine outs. He's 0 for 8 with double play. Bogarts and Betts were 0 for 15. They were 0 for 15 with a walk 1 for 15 yeah they were 0 for 15 with a walk

right tonight I did feel pretty confident I gotta say and Price they got the homer in the top of the first

then Price gave up the homer in the first pitch and then struggled with the second guy and it was like oh shit alright

well Price doesn't doesn't have it tonight and then he just settled down and this David Price thing who who is the most maligned Met of your last 25 years like a big money guy who everybody was just like

fuck that guy you know what's weird because his numbers won't bear out he's probably one of the most dominant pitchers but I would say Benitez is right up there. Oh, wow. Okay. Armando Benitez. Yeah.

Well, Price sticking it to everybody after getting shelled in the first Yankee playoff game. And people- To your dad, no less. Even my dad. Well, my dad was never a fan. My dad now, my dad wanted me to point out on the podcast, though,

before I berated him for the Price thing, that we did a podcast trying to figure out which Boston team was the closest to a title. And I said the Red Sox were third because we didn't have the bullpen. And he was like, and I told you the Red Sox were the closest. So he has that. He also quit on David Price, World Series hero. So that happened.

Yeah, but David Price, people really disliked him because he had some stuff last year and he got salty with some reporters and makes so much money. And the Yankees just kicked his ass and people were just kind of done with him. And it was this albatross contract. This is the second time this has happened

in recent Red Sox history. The first time was JD Drew, terrible contract. And then he hit the $70 million grand slam. And in the Cleveland series in 07, and it kind of made up for the whole contract price made for me. It's like, we won the world series, that price contract. It's worth it every time though. Right. You just want to win one. We won the world series partly because of him. So I'll pay that contract anytime.

And I think all the factors you mentioned, the fact that he couldn't beat the Yankees, and you would consider not even pitching him versus the Yankees. And then when they did, it was like, oh my God, what are you doing? Boston fans are like, screw you. We need to beat the Yankees.

You can't help us do that. Go somewhere else with your hundreds of millions of dollars. The one thing that's happened with the Red Sox that I don't like, other than Sweet Caroline, which I think is an abomination in the eighth inning, I just can't stand that they do that. But the

Yankees suck chance that were happening at Fenway and then even happened tonight. It's like, what are we doing? We've won four world series now this century. They've won one. Why are we even letting the Yankees even think we're thinking about them at this point? We've transcended them.

The Yankees. Oh, wow. Yeah. Shots fired. Shots fired. Four world series to one this century. Congrats. You were better in the 20th century.

I'm about now, Sal. It's 2018. 18 years in the 21st century I'm about now Sal It's 2018 18 years in the 21st century You've won one World Series By the way, the best part of the game tonight It was so good Did you pick it up at some point When the Dodger fans were defeated

And they were defeated early on But in the 8th inning Everybody in the stadium was cheering Yankees suck Did you pick that up? I just brought that up to you. You did? I'm sorry. That's what I was talking about. What are you talking about?

I was just saying I hated the Yankees suck chant. Oh, the Yankees suck chant. That was great though. You hated that? Yeah, I didn't like it. I thought it was like Rocky IV. It was like everybody came together at the end. Like, okay, we have a common enemy. And common love for the fellow

man. I thought my point was that I don't... Why are we thinking about the Yankees? Oh, I got you. They're in the rearview mirror now. I got you. Well, that was Dodger fans that started that, I think. But I just thought it was pretty funny. That was dumb by them. I do think the

Dodgers have not gotten their fair share of credit for now being a tortured franchise. I think since Gibson, they even brought out Gibson yesterday. They brought him and Eck out. Today they had Bird and Magic. They're grasping on these straws, and the reality is... Hershiser threw out the first pitch, right? Yeah, Hershiser.

They played every card they could play. They've just had bad luck and bad breaks and things go wrong and players not coming through. The Kershaw thing. Actually, let's take a quick break and then talk about Kershaw. Let's take a break to talk about G Suite, a suite of cloud-based productivity tools that includes Gmail, Docs, Slides, Sheets, and Drive.

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That is gsuite.com. Make it with G Suite by Google Cloud the Kershaw thing you know we don't need to go over like how how how kind of

pedestrian he's been in the post season what was weird to me was I wasn't afraid of going against him at all when he was going against my team

I felt like we could hit him and this is a guy who's the best pitcher of this generation. And yet, in the Astros series last round, it was like, oh shit, we got to go against Verlander.

God, I hope we can get two runs. And then in the deciding game, they hit a homer that barely got out. Got four runs on him. It felt like a freaking miracle. We got four runs on Verlander. And Kershaw, it's like, oh, we should be able to get four runs on him. It felt like a freaking miracle. We got four runs on Verlander. And Kershaw, it's like, ah, we should be able to get four runs on that dude.

Yeah, you didn't even pitch Sale against him today. Like, you could have pitched Sale. It wasn't a, you know, well, I guess being up 3-1, you didn't have to. But what was it? What did he give up? Nine runs in 11 innings against the Red Sox?

And some shots. Just never seemed comfortable. It doesn't seem like the fans trusted him. It's really bizarre. I don't remember another, you know, I've been following baseball now for four and a half decades. I don't remember another situation quite like this. I don't either.

Somebody who's this good. And he's the one who mentioned that he has three days to decide. So I'm kind of thinking he is going to decide to leave. Is that true? Yeah. He could just be a free agent? His option sets him free in three days, I think, if he wants. Holy shit.

Might be time for a change of scenery for him. I don't think the Dodger fans have a lot of confidence in him either in the postseason. I didn't feel it in the stands tonight. He'll go to Boston. If all day, he'll go to the Dodgers. I'll tell you one thing that is almost guaranteed to happen. I hesitate to bring this up. Machado's going to the Mets. He's such a Met. He is the ultimate Met. It just makes so much sense. Is he a Met or is he a Yankee? Because I could see him Met. It just makes so much sense. Right?

Is he a Met or is he a Yankee? Because I could see him going to the Yankees and killing the Dodgers again next year. He's a Met. He's going to be in your team. It's going to happen. The fans will love him for two months and then be bitching about him by mid-June and then by August he'll be being

booed and he'll be on the hook for like $330 million. That's going to happen. Do you think he would have made like $360 million before this month? Because I think it went down a little bit, his stock. Or does it even matter?

It wasn't great for him. No, I think it does matter a little bit. I don't think it matters a lot, but I think it would have helped his stock if he had done really well. On the Boston thing, your cousin was there sitting next to Matt Damon

wearing a Dodger shirt. Damon was wearing a red thing. They were almost stupid with arrows pointed to each other. Right. Funny. Yeah. Jimmy's father, your uncle.

Just drove him home, yeah. It was his birthday tonight. Happy birthday, Uncle Jimmy. Kind of sad. It was the one thing that made me feel bad. It was his birthday. The Dodgers got knocked out. Lifelong Dodger fan.

Lifelong Dodger fan. He moved to LA. They moved to LA. Yeah. Yeah. He had the Gibson Homer, at least. What a great moment that was. The Gibson Homer?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's got that. It was a long time ago. It is 30 years ago. Clayton Kershaw's 30. I think that happened right when he was born I know I went that guy Bueller

really reminded me of Saberhagen and I went back and I found Saberhagen from like the 85 World Series and posted a clip and then I was thinking

like god the 85 World Series that was like forever ago 33 years ago like Kyle was 8 minus 8 years away from being born.

Yeah, definitely. But yeah, you think like get the Gibson homer, it's just a long time. Well, Dodger fans, they're very nice. I was definitely worried. My son in game four, when we took the lead, was definitely kind of taking it a couple steps too far. The cheering and the clapping. I was really envisioning the first situation

where we just both got our asses kicked. I actually would have liked his chances if we were in a fight versus mine. I think he would have done a better job. I just think he's a better fighter. He would have done some wrestling reps. It's a weird thing where fans become more dangerous when their team is winning when they're losing. Like when they're losing,

they're almost dejected and they're like, I don't want to fight. You know, like obviously there are some, obviously incidents where I'm completely off base on this, but I think generally Dodger fans will not go at it with you if they're losing. Yeah, well, they were sad and angry, which is an emotion I recognize from pre-2004. You know, Jeff definitely,

and they have an element. There's a certain part of the fan base that just has that kind of, I'm ready to punch somebody look, which, you know, is what I grew up with in Massachusetts. And it's still a little bit there, but they, you know,

there's been a lot of success, but. All right. Well, we agree that Yankees suck and now we can move on to football. Yankees do suck. Wait, can you give me the quick gambling from the world series?

Steve Paris, probably not even on the board as MVP. I didn't see him on the board. It's funny. Cause, uh, my friend Harry gave out price at 22 to 1 on the pile. America's got it against all odds.

And I thought for sure that was going to be the winner. But we had Mookie Betts. What was his odds? I mean, Mookie, all he had to do was have a half-decent series. He would have won. He's plus 750. Game three killed him and everybody else, right? Yeah, he really did.

But our friend Daniel was the big winner. If you need to borrow money, Daniel Kelson has a lot of it. He bet a lot on the Red Sox to win the American League and win the World Series. And then doubled up on it when they were like five games out at the All-Star break or whatever they were. So congratulations, Daniel. I mean, when you think about pre-2004 Daniel, he's like a bookie's best friend. Like the idiot who bets on the Red Sox to win the World Series every year.

He'd just take his money. And now he's got four and 15. It's pretty good. Right. Four and 15. What is it, 11 Boston titles in how many years? Yeah, it's 11. My buddy Sully, who I went to games one and two with,

his son Aiden, who just led a dramatic Citroën High comeback last second. Citroën High in the playoffs, Sal. You'll like this. Down seven on their own three. He leads them down the field, throws a touchdown, 20 seconds left. They go for two against Dennis Yarmuth two point conversion

run in by my buddy Sully's son and they advance the next round ballsy call though high school football going for two for the win but

I like that so his son is a senior in high school and he has been alive for 11 Boston titles oh my god since he was so he's he's 18 so he was born what year is that and he has been alive for 11 Boston titles. Oh, my God. Since he was, so he's 18, so he was born, what year is that? So he was born in 2000.

Yeah. Two years later, the Pats win. And from that point on, he's 11 titles. He's no recollection of any sadness at all. It's really incredible. Of course he should go for two. Everything works out for him. Why not?

Yeah. Go for two every time. Don't ever pawn. Unbelievable. I want to have a podcast where you get a 17-year-old Boston fan and a 79-year-old Boston fan and they just talk about Boston sports.

Maybe it's my dad and Sully's son just talking about trying to come to grips with the new reality. Football, I did not watch a lot of it today because I also had my daughter had her biggest soccer game of the season which she also won. It was a good sports day for me.

I was in San Juan Capistrano, so I was driving back listening to Rams-Packers. I did not see a lot of the first game. Nephew Kyle said Chiefs-Broncos was the entertaining early game. Did you watch that one? Very good. They would not go away,

those Broncos. And the Chiefs did something bizarre. They didn't score on their first drive. What? Yeah, so they opened the door for Denver, and Chase Keenum was good. He's hitting receivers left and right. Yeah, I don't know.

Mahomes was still Mahomes. Four touchdowns, one interception. Yeah, pretty good performance by Denver who covered the spread. That kills the Chiefs straight. This isn't a conversation about

fantasy football as much as a conversation about the funny email thread that we had about fantasy football. It was good conversation about the funny email thread that we had about fantasy football. Oh, it was good. It was funny and it was violent and it was a lot of things. There was mean spiritedness, lines were crossed. We had this controversial trade in our league where a winless team gave up Todd Gurley and got a bunch of people back, two of whom immediately got hurt. David Johnson, David Johnson,

Sonny Michelle, Marshawn Lynch, who played, who ate like one Skittle and then was out on IR after that. That was it, yeah. So everybody was mad about that. And it was me and Hench just furious that,

that now we had to contend against this team. Todd Gurley, we covered this in last week's pod. What we didn't cover was it started a sub thing. Somehow you got dragged into it because you traded Pat

Mahomes for Leonard Fournette and TJ Yeldon. With the case of the people who stole Todd Gurley, Jamie Agin and Tall John, the crooks. Let me just defend myself as much as I can here because obviously that didn't work out for me either.

Cause it doesn't look like for an ad is interested in playing tackle football this year. That's a problem. I wanted to mix it up. I had Matt Ryan on the bench. Everyone loved my homes, my homes, my homes,

but my homes cost me two games by having Matt Ryan on the bench. A and B, I traded with another winless team or a team that was 1-5. I didn't trade with the first or second place team. The strong part of their case, though, is that you traded Pat Mahomes for Leonard Fournette and T.J. Eldon. Yeah, that's true.

That was a solid point that that was a bad trade. But let me explain something to you and you keep throwing this out. You're like, I got Tom Brady. I got Jared Goff. Quarterbacks don't matter that much. They really don't. Like, Mitch Trubisky's sixth in any fantasy league

in the rankings of quarterback. So, everyone gets too crazy about quarterback. Well, I would argue they do matter because right now I'm beating you 89 points to 66.

I got 29.45 points from Jared Goff and you got 15.8 from Eli Manning, which is almost the entirety of my lead. You started Eli Manning. The Giants don't want to start Eli Manning. You started Eli Manning in a fantasy league.

Who do you pick off the bench? Oh, I don't care. We just talked 30 minutes baseball. We're going to talk fantasy now. No, but you started Eli Manning. It's like you're tanking. What, do you go for a first-round pick? Yeah, I want to pay. Unbelievable. The loser pays for a first-round pick? Yeah, I want to pay.

The loser pays for the banquet at Shakey's. You just want to pay? Did you make a deal with Shakey's? I need to pay, yeah. I mean, if you're going to start Eli Manning, why not start like Keanu Reeves? All right. Well, I didn't see him on the waiver wire.

I thought that would inspire a lot of emails if I picked up Keanu Reeves. Eli Manning. You have to be the only person who started Eli Manning. Kyle, it's a one quarterback lead. Can you think of any other lead that anyone started Eli Manning? No, no, I really

can't. Eli Manning as far as fantasy goes at 316 passing yards and two touchdowns. That's fine. He wasn't bad today. He didn't look bad. 15.8. He had two paints. That's what they call it on the CBS site. Paints.

P-A-I-N-T. Do you think, we say this every year, I think a pick six should be a minus six. Or at least a minus four. Minus four would be great, right? I was following it on my phone on the way home from San Juan Capistrano. Jared Goff got two points for the two-point conversion pass.

We really, we're just, we fuck up fantasy in all these different ways. He gets four points for a touchdown and two points for a two-yard, two-point conversion. How does that make sense? I think we changed that. Then it used to be zero, and then we added one, and now it's two. I think it's two. I don't know.

I don't care. I'm going to be 0-8. I really don't care. Listen, the fact that you're 0-8 in fantasy is, now that my team won the World Series, is my number one favorite sports subplot right now. Good.

You're only five away from 0-13. It's unbelievable. If I go 0-13 with Matt Ryan, Ezekiel Elliott, Mark Ingram, Edelman, Adams, and Baldwin, and Gronk as a tight end, I don't know. I'm never playing again. Gronk, who just, I guess, isn't going to play anymore. Yeah, that's it.

Did you see the Pats? The Pats, Glazer reported today, they were looking to trade for a receiver. Why? They want to trade for a receiver? Why? They want to find like a lead receiver. He said they're shopping high draft picks

for like a Demarius Thomas type. Wow. Interesting. They must be really spooked by the Chiefs and their offense. Well, it made me wonder if they, if the Josh Gordon

Cinderella clock is about to hit midnight come on I'll tell you what that guy will make a great catch or a productive catch and then he'll stay down for a while like you think he's hurt every play Josh Gordon right yeah there was a disturbing my dad was telling me he had a big play last week it was like a

45 yard run and catch or catch and run and he slowed down at the end as he went through the end zone. It seemed like he was hurt, but he wasn't hurt. And somebody asked him after, and Josh Gordon said that he was winded. The actual quote. He's a professional athlete. He never gets to celebrate his receptions,

because he's either winded or the trainer has to tend to him. I would understand, like, if I'm with nephew Kyle at the dark room at 2 in the morning and the place gets raided and we run two blocks and Kyle's heaving and he's like, I'm winded because he smoked 12 Marlboro Reds or whatever he did. Josh Gordon's a number one receiver.

His job is to stay in shape. He was winded because he ran 40 yards. Not a good sign for us, though. I still think I have a chance to be on the right side of history with my Josh Gordon is going to let down his next team thing. Josh Gordon's the next David Price.

We'll see. He's going to light the world on fire. God, I hope so. Yes. Let's take one more break and we'll rip through the guest lines. Let's take a break to talk about my best friends at FrameBridge.

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code BS. You'll save an additional 15% off your first order. Go to framebridge.com. Use promo code BS. You'll save an additional 15% off your first order. Go to framebridge.com. Promo code BS. Shout out to my friend Hench, your friend, my friend, for just some of the craziest texts he's ever sent on Friday night during the 18 inning game.

This is just during game three. He said the Kinsler throw is more absurd than the Tyree catch. Well, both of those didn't work out for you. I'm surprised you'd say that. A spectacular joke. That throw is 35 feet off target. Jesus, I'm so fucking bummed right now.

Cora came undone tonight. If this plane crash ends with us losing the series, this loss will supplant game six in 86. Oh, come on. I'll tell you. Listen, Henshaw will be the first one to admit this is part of his process. He goes...

Yeah, right. Then as Evaldi's trying to get through like his fifth inning he said I feel like I'm in a clockwork orange eyes pinned open being tortured Evaldi's agent should be strangling Cora right now he should have to apologize to all these

unsung heroes including Tom Brady who every first quarter every first drive when he throws one into the, like Hench is calling for his head. Shameful. Here's the thing. This is part of Hench's process. Yeah. All right.

This is what he does. Why do we have to listen? You're right. Let's do Guess the Lens. I love you, Hench. We could talk about the games that happened today as we talk about some of these games. Thursday night, a game that probably looked a lot better

two months ago than it does right now. The 49ers are home against the Raiders. This is a poop-fecta Thursday night game. Old school. Just terrible. I have no interest in watching one minute of this. I do want to pat ourselves on the back though, because we called this Gruden thing from the get-go.

It's been even more delicious and magnificent than I ever imagined. I love it. He's so bad and he's stockpiling first round picks. And now he has people in the Amari Cooper trade, which I think, did that happen after our last podcast? Yeah, it happened after.

It happened during the week. I actually thought the tide was turning a little for the Raiders. I was like, all right, no, that was a good move. That's a good move on loading. It was a good trade. I like that trade. But everyone's like, they got five first-rounders the next two years. I was like, yeah, but John Gruden's the one picking them.

But he's kind of like, and I don't think coaches were allowed to do this. It's kind of like when a college coach like Chip Kelly gets brains at UCLA and he's like, well, this isn't my team. I didn't think coaches were allowed to do this. It's kind of like when a college coach like Chip Kelly gets brains at UCLA and he's like, well, this isn't my team. I didn't recruit this team. So, yeah, we're going to lose a bunch of games in this first year. But my team's in three years. It's kind of what he's doing. And he's, for the most part, I think, getting away with it.

Yeah, I guess you can do it when you have a 10-year contract. There's no evidence at all that he knows what he's doing. I mean, none. There's zero evidence. He's been out of football for 12 years. This is why we put a lot of money

shorting the Raiders before the season. And, and it seems like they are very focused on the first pick. 49ers, I have them favored

by three. Yeah, you're gonna, you got this. I don't know why I had, I had them by only one, but I guess they are a full field goal, even though the miserable loss at Arizona,

I didn't see a lot of it, but I guess you do make them a field goal favorite there. It is three. I don't have a feel for either of those teams because I try not to watch either of them. Yeah, like you said, this is the third clunker in a row for a Thursday night game. And we should point out that there are six buys this week.

Jacksonville, Indianapolis, Cincinnati, Arizona Giants, and Philly. Not really going to miss any of those teams. Yeah, I know. Indy's surprising. We took Indy at 20-1. Yeah. Down to 12-1 to win the division. Well, and then with Houston, Will Fuller got hurt again.

He's out for the year. And I thought, now you could just double-team Hopkins everywhere. But Indy's scoring. Their defense might not be great from week to week, but they're figuring it out with Marlon Mack and Eric Ebron. Well, this was our case

when we went through this, which was, what, last week or two weeks ago? I think it was last week or two weeks ago? I think it was last week, yeah. We bet on the 21 because it was a deceiving one. There were one and four, but it was deceiving because having that Thursday night

pass game was just bad luck. They were really banged up. They were in the other games. They almost beat the Eagles. At least they can move the ball, which in this game, that's all that matters. Sunday Marquis. I don't mind them. Saints-Rams

in New Orleans. I listened to GM Street, Lombardi and Tate on Friday, and Lombardi was really selling the Saints, and I agree with him. I think the Saints are a legit Super Bowl contender.

And I would have them probably 2B. I'd have Chiefs 2A, them 2B. Rams 1, Chiefs 2A, Saints 2B right now as my top three. I would not even put the Saints 3. I think they're really good. I did not see the game tonight because we were at Dodger Stadium, but I did wager on the Saints. I believe in the Saints, and I think

this could be the week it ends for the Rams. I had the Saints by two at home against the undefeated Rams. I had the Rams by two, and it's Rams by one, so I'm closer there. I had the Rams by two, and it's Rams by one.

So I'm closer there. Wow. The rarely seen road team favored by one. That doesn't happen. I mean, it's a rarely seen undefeated team in November is what it is, right? Yeah. I like the Saints. I think you can throw on the Rams. I think that we're starting to learn that

What happened that Packers You know I think they just gave up big plays And I think the Saints Are going to be up again and now maybe the Rams can outscore them They got lucky today They were up 10-0 And that safety killed them That safety killed the Packers

Made it 10-2 and then the Rams got it back, and then they were right in the game at halftime. And then to not have to give the ball back to Aaron Rodgers with two minutes left, Montgomery takes it out of the end zone and fumbled it. And you don't even give Aaron Rodgers a shot there. They were very lucky to walk away with that from a win. I'll say this about the Saints.

Oh, go ahead. I was just going to say, the series before that, I thought, was the key one because the Packers had the ball, the chance to put the game away. Donald got that. It was third and six. I was listening to the radio as I was going

one mile an hour on my way to Dodger Stadium. Donald sacked Rodgers. They got the ball back and that led to them getting the field goal that put them up and then you know of course it was bound to happen I finally lost money in the Rams had a tease from last week

tease the Rams down to two and a half they're up two to get the key fumble run out the clock time or kick a field goal either or Gurley breaks through on third down going fumble, run out the clock time or kick a field goal, either or. Gurley breaks through on third down, going toward the end zone. Oh, he's falling down.

What a smart move by Todd Gurley. What a smart move. He's quenched the game. It's like, no, it's not a smart move. I just lost money because Todd Gurley didn't run in the end zone. What are you doing, Todd Gurley? So, yeah, that was not great. I wish we had a sponsored segment where I could kind of fit this in

generically. Which leads us to our buddies at Crown Rural. They're doing something pretty cool this football season. They launched a responsible drinking program called The Water Break. It's all about encouraging people to hydrate between drinks for a better experience, whether at the game, watching at home, or in the bar.

Have a great time. Enjoy some crown. Just don't be that person. That ruins it for everyone. We've all seen that guy who drank too much watching the game. Make the right call. Take a water break. So who made the right call this week?

All right, Sal. After Todd Gurley cost me money, make the case for him. Here's the case. He made the right call. You go down. How many extra points have we seen in this year? So they're up two. He scores.

They go up eight. God forbid Greg DeLegge misses the extra point. Now you have Aaron Rodgers has over a minute or around a minute to score. He did the right thing. He was unselfish. And this is coming from a guy. Forget my fantasy woes continue because i did a uh i did a daily fantasy game head to head with a buddy i lost 121.6 to 121

and i had todd girley but i still think him going down was the right move um hey listen all you fantasy people he's given you enough this year everyone who who had the Rams minus nine or whatever, you didn't deserve to win. And everybody who had the over, you didn't deserve to win either. So good for you, Todd girl. You took a knee.

You were unselfish. I didn't appreciate any of that. I know you're right. I know it was the right move. The whole point is to win the football game by falling down. The game is now over. The Rams have won. It was a great move.

Now, the counter is they're trying to break the TD record with Todd Gurley, and they are a step on the gas pedal, shove it down your throat, cut your throat kind of team. And that did not feel very Rams-ish. I wonder if McVay is going to find Gurley later today. He might have screwed himself, too, because he's going to approach 30 touchdowns. And if he does, he's going to have to be considered for MVP,

along with Drew Brees, who somehow only had 120 yards passing today, even though his team scored 30. And, of course, Pat Mahomes. So maybe Gurley did screw himself in that regard if he ends up with like 29 touchdowns. And it's not seen as favorable, he's 30, but I'm still the right move.

All right. My right call of the week goes to the New York football giants. They keep throwing Eli Manning out there who just isn't a starting quarterback anymore and shouldn't be, and can only throw certain types of passes. Kyle claims he was okay today. Yeah. It was better to watch. Better to watch.

It was better to watch. Was it, did he look like a starting quarterback? Yeah, he looked like a guy who was trying not to go down. Okay. Well, my theory on this is, you know, the Boston sports teams have had a lot of success this century. Eli got the better of us twice. And whether he is a Hall of Fame quarterback or not, I don't know.

I would say he's not. But he did go 8-0 during those two Super Bowl runs. He beat a 16-0, 18-0 Patriot team. He won playoff games in Lambeau and Candlestick and developed this reputation as this clutch guy. And now you've watched his career just fall apart these last three or four years. And every time he's terrible in a game, the Boston sports fans look at each other and we go,

how the fuck did we lose two Super Bowls to Eli Manning? How? How did that happen? How did that happen? Why did that happen? How did this guy beat us twice? So every week they leave him out there. So it's that little like little shank in the souls of the Boston sports fans.

So it's a great call. The Giants don't have a lot to play for right now. They have Saquon Barkley, and they stick it to the Boston fans, and that's really all they have. So congratulations to them. Crown Royal reminds everyone this football season to take a water break and hydrate responsibly. All right.

I screwed up. I said Manning had two touchdowns. He only had one and Kyle was with no time left, right? It was at the very end of the game. Congrats. It was good for your fantasy team. It was good for you and the person in San Quentin who was the other guy in America

who started you that man in this week. San Quentin. He's in a 20... No, he's in San Quentin. He's in a 20- His daughter plays soccer. No, he's in San Quentin. He's in a 20-team league, the guy in San Quentin. It's much harder to find a quarterback. It's 20 inmates.

It's everybody in the block. So he ended up with Eli. There was some bias. Saints-Rams, do we like the Saints, or am I crazy? I don't know. I have to think about this a little more. I think that now everybody's going to be

you know romanticized. Oh, are they? Yeah, yeah. This is the week they lose. Okay. I mean, we said we're going with the Rams

every week until they lose a game. But we're on the wrong side of minus two and a half on a teaser. But I don't know if I'm ready to ditch it.

That hurt my feelings. Yeah. Shit, next time I'm just doing the 7 point tees taking it to 2 3 watchable games next week 3 somehow and these probably aren't 100% watchable but fine Chiefs, Browns

I think the Chiefs are just in the watchables every week they just make it work it's in Cleveland I don't know if anyone's happy with Baker Mayfield's rookie season word. It's in Cleveland. I don't know if anyone's happy with Baker Mayfield's rookie season. Can we just throw that out there? I think he's in the bottom three now for a QB rating as a

starter. Yeah, there's something to be said for sitting for a year and watching football and doing what Pat Mahomes did, I think. But I didn't bet on the Browns, but I did pick them in the picks pool. I thought they would put up a better fight, but it just seems like they have a lot of trouble moving the ball.

And I don't know whether it's the coaching staff's fault or whatever the hell is going on. They were talking about the ringer slack today, and it seems half the people think Baker might not just be ready yet, and the other half are saying it's, how could any rookie quarterback do it with the team he's on and jackass coaches and all that stuff. I'm not a big fan of everybody saying, well, now there's tape on this guy.

But if, if you're ever going to make a case for that, now that there's tape on this guy, that seems like that's what's going on here. Yeah. Not as strong as the first. This Chiefs Browns game, it does feel like has some 52 to 10 potential. And everybody going, oh, man, maybe they rushed Baker Mayfield. I have the Chiefs favored by seven in Cleveland.

You went a little light there. I said nine, and it's eight and a half. Here's what you're going to hear all week. Texas Tech played Oklahoma, I think three years ago, two or three years ago. And these guys each put up like 600 yards, Baker and Mahomes.

Even I know about that game. I'm yawning now because it's 1130 at night. Sorry, sorry, it's you're going to see highlight. You're, you're, you're yawning at 600 yard games already,

but yeah, you'll see a lot of highlights. That's my first yawn ever on a podcast. I don't know if we've ever taped a podcast this late. Ravens, Ravens are home for the Steelers. The only thing we know for sure is the injury cart and the blue tent will be probably involved. I have the Ravens favored by three. And I just want to say that I never believed in this Ravens team and now they

are a four and four and I feel vindicated. Well, you're spot on with the spread. I said two, and it is three. Oh, man. I don't know how you make a case for either of these teams. This is such a mess, this game. It's a bad one. Let's not bet on this.

Let's make a pact. The other watchables by the way if the Ravens lose this is kind of the season for the Ravens right they lose this they're 4-5

is that the first loss against Pittsburgh 4-5 is bad yeah 4-5 did Pittsburgh beat them already I want to say they did they did right maybe did, right?

Yeah. I think they're pretty unrecoverable. I don't see any team with Joe Flacco going six and one or whatever down the stretch. Yeah, Ravens beat Pittsburgh 26 to 14. The Ravens beat Pittsburgh? Oh, so it's not. So four and five is not that big then. We are tired.

Yeah. Yeah, 26-14.14 yeah they beat them up I've watched that game too but that's look it's 11-30 at night what do you think of that though I mean that's let's say the Ravens

do grab the 5th seed that's a fun wild card game Ravens at Texans that's a good one and I was thinking what would the other one be I don't if you had

it would be Chargers the Texans fun? It would be Chargers at Texans, which would be great. And it would be... You don't think that'd be great? I think the Bengals are way more fun than the Texans. And then Bengals at Steelers

would be the 6-3. That's a fun one. Yeah, that's a good wild card weekend, though. Yeah, but you left out our team, the Colts. Oh, yeah. They're the 7th team. Andrew Luck, oh, you left me out. Chargers, Seahawks.

Chargers in Seattle. Seattle is the team this year that just is sticking it to me. I lost money on them today. I had Detroit. I got excited that they picked up snacks. I like Detroit in general. I like the receivers. I thought they'd be able to throw the ball, and they just laid a nice little stink

bomb for me. Now they're hosting the Chargers. I'm sorry. The Seahawks are hosting the Chargers. I have the Chargers favorite, Sal. I think the Chargers are like the fifth best team in the league. I have them two and a half point favorites in Seattle. That's exactly what I had them at.

And you're going to be surprised to learn the Seahawks are favored by one. Okay. And now I'm going to do the dumb thingawks are favored by one. Okay. And now I'm going to do the dumb thing here and take the Chargers. After a bye, I do like them in this spot. Have we been Anthony Lind yet this year? I'm going to use that as a verb. No, we could have been with the Titans. If Vrabel had hit on that two-point conversion, that would have been our day, yeah.

At some point, the Anthony Lynn field goal kicker combo is going to cost us money. It's just a question of money. Yeah, it's bad. The barely watchables. Minnesota is home, playing the aforementioned Lions. I have the Vikings by six and a half. No, you got that exactly right.

I said four and a half. I don't know why I went so light on that. Don't let me tease this. Steer me toward the Lions money line. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm really bad betting four against the Lions, and this seems like the time they bounce back. Although I would like it more if Minnesota had lost this week

or had they won this week. Falcons, Redskins, Falcons in Washington. I have the Falcons favored by one and a half. I said Washington by one. Washington is favored by two. Five and two Redskins. That's stupid. That's not continuing.

You like the Eagles over the Redskins? We should look for the division. I don't like anybody in that division. Can we have a fifth team in the NFC East? I don't like my four choices. Can we have a fifth team there? I still feel like the Eagles are going to be there. You do, huh?

Yeah, I do. I think they'll get a little healthier. They'll find some weird random dude on a practice squad who's all of a sudden an electric receiver. Something stupid will happen. They looked okay. And the Jags are normally unbeatable, invincible in London.

I know. What happens with Sir Blake Bortles now? Now he's got nothing left. It's over. Further east? Is there a country? There's got to be a country right now. Is it Ireland?

Mexico City? Spain? Spain further east? Yeah, I'm going to go to Spain. I think it's over for Bortles. That's it. I felt bad for him. He used his legs.

He ran for a couple first downs. It wasn't all his fault today. I stand by the London games. I think they're fantastic. I loved waking up today. Waking up at 630. It's just great. We talk about it every week.

We just love it. But you and I have gambling problems. It was now 14. It's now hour 14 for us on football. Panthers, Bucks in Carolina. I'm guessing Ryan Fitzpatrick next week, and Jameis is just going to become the face of the XFL.

It's his destiny. Just lock that in. He'll get XFL tattooed on his neck, and he'll be ready to go. Panthers. We talked about before the year how ridiculous it was that Cam Newton, his MVP odds were what, 35 to one, 32 to one? Right. And we were like, why is he 35 to one

and Jimmy Garoppolo 16 to one, all this stuff? I think Cam's in the MVP race now. We didn't do anything about that, right? No, we did nothing. I don't think he's going to win, but I think he's going to be mentioned. I wonder what those odds, we'll have to report back about those odds,

but they're probably still in the 20 to 1 range. Yeah. Guess what? Cam Newton's good at football, and nobody wants to give him credit. It's like a Russell Westbrook thing a little bit where the narrative of, oh, look at Cam Newton.

Here he is. Then there's a backlash, and now he's probably better than we think he is. Westbrook is exactly... He's playing at a different level. Yeah. He ate up. He swallowed up that Ravens defense,

which is, by all accounts, the best defense. The only defense that plays well back-to-back weeks. Yeah. Good for you, Cam. The Panthers by 7.5 against the Bucs. I said 7.5 also. It's only 6.5. Nope. So there's your teaser game. I said seven and a half also. It's only six and a half. Nope. So there's your teaser

game. I'm scared of Fitzpatrick. That dude went right to my... Boy, that was a miracle cover. Fitzpatrick... They were getting three and a half. He brought them all the way back to three. He does that, man. They tied it, actually. Last one, barely watchable. I don't even know

if this is barely watchable, but the Broncos are home for the Texans. Broncos season, they probably can't lose again at this point. I think they have five losses? Three and five, yep. Yeah. Three and six, they still have to play the Chargers.

I just, I don't think they run the slate. They're not going 10 and six, so they can't lose again. They're catching the Texans on a good week, though. Houston should not win six straight. That would be absolutely ludicrous. Four straight was way, way under the radar

for a team. Then they won five. They beat up on Miami Thursday night. Yeah. It's stupid. I have the Broncos by three. You're going to get this. I don't know why I had Texans. I don't know, five and three versus three and five. Texans had 10 days to prepare. I thought Texans would be favored by two, but you're right.

Denver is favored by two and a half. Maybe this is a good spot for them. They play teams tough. They fought back. They covered against the Rams. They should have beaten the Chiefs on the Monday night game. They played them well tonight, but today, risky team. The advanced metrics enjoy the Broncos for some reason.

I'm looking at, I'm calling up football outsiders. Shout out to Aaron Schatz, old BS Report guest. They moved the ball now. I think they're better with Lindsey as the featured back rather than trading off with Royce Freeman. That worked today. After week seven, here was DVOA. KC won, Rams

two, Chargers three, Ravens four, Broncos five. I wish I had looked at this because I would have noticed that Seattle was ranked 10th and Seattle was ranked 10th and Detroit was ranked 28th. And somehow I bet the Lions today.

So there you go. Right. Fucking moron. Next week, I'll look at DVOA. Sorry about that, Aaron Schatz. Yeah, well, sorry, Aaron. Yeah, sorry, Aaron. You know I respect the DVOA.

The poopfecta. This is a poopy one. It's got a nice little stink to it Dolphins home for the Jets I had the Dolphins by three no you get this

exactly you're beating me up this week I think wait hold on one two three seven two three yeah you're beating me

I had four it is exactly three well it's it's my third best win of Sunday just so you know. They played already, right? The Red Sox win in the World Series is one. My daughter winning 1-0, staying undefeated in her league is two.

And me whipping you against the lines is a distant third. How dare you? I'm going to rest my starters. Did you mention the fantasy dropping you're handing me? Well, I was 32-point favorites on the CBS site, so I knew I was in good shape. How is that possible? They didn't even know that I was picking up Eli Manning.

Then I saw Eli Manning, and I thought you were trolling me to see if I was looking. And then you actually, all of a sudden, the game started, and he was still in there. You know what I did with this league? It went under the radar. By the way, the Dolphins beat the Jets already, 20-12.

But I picked up the Rams' backup running back. Do you even know who that is? Did you really? Who is that? Because I think he's going to play, and all this Todd Gurley talk, but I think he's going to play weeks

15 and 16 during our playoffs. So I picked up Malcolm Brown. I spent $15 on him, and I might trade him for girly straight up, because these jerks aren't even going to get to use him in the playoffs. You watch. They're going to be 14-1 with nothing to play for. But we just passed a rule that nobody who's five games under 500 can

trade. I didn't. Oh, I can't trade. But we did pass that rule. I passed it right now. I just passed it two minutes ago. I thought I would have heard of that't trade. I passed it right now. I just passed it two minutes ago. I thought I would have heard of that. I passed it right now. Sunday night, Pats Packers. Hold on, you missed a game,

but there's no line on it anyway. Chicago at Buffalo. That was a game? Yeah, but there's no line. I think Josh Allen's out. They don't know about Josh Allen. Is that a barely watchable? That was the game? Yeah, but there's no line. I think, because, who is it? Josh Allen's out. They don't know about Josh Allen.

Is that a barely watchable, or is that a poopfecta? Where would you put that one? I say barely. I still like watching the Bears anyway. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll skip that one. All right.

Sunday night, Pats Packers. Tough to know what's, I mean, the Pats are playing tomorrow night. They're playing the Bills. No idea. It could be one of those classic Belichick, Milton Berle whip-outs, just enough to win the Dick contest. I don't know what to expect. They definitely will not be showing a lot for this Packer game the following week

because you know how much Belichick respects Aaron Rodgers, Mike McCarthy. The one thing, I did think about this with the Rams today, having them in a tease against the Packers. It does suck to bet against Aaron Rodgers. I just don't like it. Yeah, it does. That's why we had the teaser. We didn't want to

bet the full nine. He's going to backdoor cover us. You just don't feel good anytime he has the ball. I'm not doing it again. I know, but he's going to backdoor cover us. Yeah, but it's just, he just don't feel good anytime he has the ball. I'm not doing it again. Yeah, but the Rams shouldn't put up zero with three minutes left in the first half or whatever. That should never happen. Well, the problem is, I think with the Rams, like, against Team,

they were talking about this on the Raider, and I agreed. Against the Packers, you got to do no huddle and just keep their defense on the field. Don't let them do all the shifts, depending on what down it is and bringing in fresh bodies and all that stuff. Right, they started doing that, yeah. So I think they're in trouble with the Pats, because if that's a weakness for the Packers,

Brady will just stay no huddle the whole game. Pats by seven is my pick. I said seven and a half. Only six. So you get that. This is a tough betting week, right? I mean, we like Kansas City. If we're just picking winners, Kansas City beats Cleveland.

They have to beat Cleveland. And then I don't know. You don't like Minnesota versus Detroit. You don't trust Carolina over Tampa. And you don't want to bet don't like Minnesota but Detroit. You don't trust Caroline over Tampa and you don't want to bet against Aaron Rodgers anymore. I like the Panthers

but I'm afraid of Fitzpatrick. Yeah. I wonder if we're being stupid by not just betting it's Hugh Jackson the rest of the way

until he gets fired. Yeah. Well, we know some people who know some people and they're starting to get nervous that the Hugh the comedy experiment

known as Hugh Jackson that Coach of the Browns is about to end like for real oh really yeah and that'll be a sad day then

then you know they might bring a new guy in who is actually decent you know the kind of coach he's got well we should try to bet on him against him one more time.

Right. Pat's the, the odds of me texting at some point this week with some sort of bet I want to do that has the Pat's money line or the minus six as a tease. And it is off the boards in Vegas right now. Really? Yeah. All right.

Monday night, your team, the Cowboys, the Clapper was in attendance Friday. We didn't talk about that. He was at game threeboys the Clapper was in attendance Friday we didn't talk about that he was at game 3 Clapper front row doing some clapping I tweeted I was like no wonder there's an offensive

drought look who showed up yeah it's true Garrett showed up nobody scored a run for 12 innings what is he doing the only thing I was hoping I was like maybe this game will last two weeks. The game three will last two weeks and he won't be able to appear on the sidelines of the Cowboys Monday night against the Titans.

But it unfortunately ended. Garrett, Garrett was here to interview for the quarterback coach job at UCLA. Cause that's going to be his next job. How about, I don't want to pin this on Garrett, but somebody on the coaching staff asked Amari Cooper when he first got to the Cowboys,

do you know any cool plays? Can you teach us any cool plays? Did that really happen? I didn't know that was an urban legend. What? That happened? Do you think it's an urban legend? I don't know.

I don't care. I'm reporting it as fact because it just makes too much sense hold on I want to talk about the Amari Cooper trade too so let's take one more break hey let's talk about FanDuel football season well underway we are two months in almost

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We have Cowboys Titans, our last game. I had the Cowboys by three and a half against the Titans. That's exactly what I had. Why, why, why does Vegas have this by six? I know, it's ridiculous. That's ludicrous.

Oh, man. There's's gonna be a lot of clapping Tennessee had like 16 days off right like didn't they they had a bye after the London game 15 days it'll be Mike Vrabel

versus Jason Garrett is probably worth 12 points for the Titans they already have 12 nothing yeah I like Vrabel there so quickly

the Amari Cooper trade so when I don't know what this is like I haven't had 12-0. Yeah, I like variable there. So quickly, the Amari Cooper trade. I don't know what this is like. I haven't had... I've had really bad owners in my life. I've only had one owner who was just off the rails. It was John Y. Brown in the Celtics 40 years ago, late 70s. He was this Kentucky billionaire. He was married to Phyllis George.

He somehow did a franchise swap. He owned the Buffalo Braves. Franchise swap. All of a sudden, he was Celtics owners. Red Auerbach was hoarding these first round picks. He had all these first round picks. And this guy, John Y. Brown superseded the great red, our back and traded three first rounders for Bob McAdoo and red,

our back almost quit. He ended up getting two of the picks back by trading McAdoo. It led to the McHale trade. It was all fine. It's the only time I ever remember feeling helpless with an owner. Like, Oh my God, that guy might do anything.

We just might, he might just completely fuck us. And now that's basically your life as a Cowboy fan. Like your owner is like, we're going nowhere. We have no chance to win a Super Bowl. My coach is terrible. My quarterback is maybe a B minus. This is not a Super Bowl team.

I'm going to give away my first-round pick for a guy who I think had four one-catch games out of his last ten. Amari Cooper. Well, there's a couple ways to look at this. The best case scenario way for the Cowboys fans to look at it is

Jerry Jones has had enough of Jason Garrett, and he's not giving him a pass. And so he's saying, you need to win with this team and we're giving you a Mari Cooper. And so you're not going to have any excuses come, uh, December or January when we renegotiate or decide to let you go. So that will be good because you know,

this is not going to work out. Uh, secondly, you could say like the Cowboys could have drafted Calvin Ridley would have been a first rounder. So what would have been the same thing? But the way I look at it is if the Raiders are asking for a first rounder, you don't have to give them a first round.

When have you ever not negotiated anything? Right? Like if someone comes at you with a fantasy trade, you're never going to accept it straight up. You're going to counter. Even if you end up going with their proposal, you have to counter, right? I don't know what goes on.

Unless they're offering you Leonard Fournette and TJ Eldon. Oh, shut the hell up. Then you don't counter. You grab that as fast as possible. I'm hanging up. It's freaking midnight. I've had enough of that talk. Well, I didn't understand why you didn't get a pick in the trade. Why wasn't

it a first for Amari Cooper and a third? That also I wouldn't have done and would have been ridiculous, but at least you got a pick back. This was like worse than what the Brandon Cooks trade was.

We traded Brandon Cooks for the 28th pick in the draft. What did we get in the Rams trade, Kyle? the Brandon Cooks trade was. We traded Brandon Cooks for like the 20, I don't know, 28th pick in the draft. What did we get in the Rams trade, Kyle? Like 28, something like that? And this could be like the 12th. The other thing, Lombardi made the point about could you lottery protect it?

Make it like if this pick's in the top 10, you get our second rounder instead. Right, yeah, a lot of that goes on, yeah. I think Jerry Jones is like, Like, if this picks in the top 10, you get our second rounder instead. Right. Yeah, a lot of that goes on. Yeah. I think Jerry Jones is like, what do they want? So they won't bend on it? Ah, fuck it.

Give it to them. No, but I think the Jason – I don't know why you have to turn your franchise upside down to make excuses for Jason Garrett, but I do think that's what this is. This is – all right, Garrett, make your move. This is the best team we can give you. I'm trying to think how many receivers I would give up a first-round pick for. I just feel like Dez would be, Cooper's great.

He's very good. I think he's a nice fit in another organization. It's not going to work out for the Cowboys. I think Dez will put up the same numbers if they had signed him for nothing. They wouldn't have to pay that guy to play the rest of the year. Or just trade a third for Devontante Parker and hope he stays healthy. Right. Very strange.

When the news comes out that five other GMs didn't offer a first rounder, doesn't that make you want to secede from the union a little bit? When the Eagles offered a second. Yeah. Does that make me think, oh. And the Eagles second is basically a third, right? Do you think when the Raiders said yes Jerry Jones was like we got him

it's going to be the funniest thing is if you end up going like 6-10 yeah and then that's like the 11th pick in the draft that's the other thing because it's just embarrassing if that pick comes back to haunt you in a profound way. It's already embarrassing.

I mean, we're going to zigzag to 8-8, luckily, but this is not a team that's putting together two wins. They can't provide any offense on the road. It's a flawed team. It's crazy. It would almost be like if we had a crazy guy in his 70s who ran America and just did whatever he wanted and just acted crazy. Yeah, I can imagine that.

Imagine that. How about that he commented on the baseball game? I'm like, oh, holy shit. I actually agree with him here. He liked the Dave Roberts move. Or he didn't like the Dave Roberts move. No, no. He said it happens too much.

Yeah. That was tough. The Red Sox fans were like, can you just stay out of this? Can you let us enjoy this? Let's enjoy one thing. Also, the timing of that with the terrible tragedy in Pittsburgh and Trump gives his

one little quote and then his next thing is he's complaining about Dave Roberts' managerial strategy. He's the most tone-deaf person in my life. Family members who are always tone-deaf. He's the best. Let's do a little parent corner and then wrap it up.

Alright. Well, mine comes from tonight at the game. I'm sitting next to Dickie Barrett, and I got my son there, and I have Kevin Kimmel, Jimmy's son, and it's the four of us, and we're behind uh the dodgers dugout we're lucky enough to have nice seats we're behind the dodgers dugout and

dickie is a big big red socks fan mighty mighty boss tones lead singer you know todd hardcore red socks as it goes yeah and the game is getting out of hand as far as a 4-1 game could be and uh mookie bets it's the home bets hits the home run to make it 5-1, right? Yeah. He hits the home run to make it 5-1. So I thought I'll get this cool shot on my camera of Dickey celebrating in the foreground and Mookie Betts rounding second coming towards us in the background. And so Dickey stands up and his phone falls.

And I don't think anything of it, but I'm scrambling to take, to get my phone off lock and then start recording, uh, Dickie's day and Dickie celebrates, drops his phone and then grabs my phone and won't let go of it. And now we're like struggling and like people are watching us and I'm like, what are you doing? And I thought this was part of his celebration. He was going to grab my phone and like people are watching us and i'm like what are you doing and i thought this was part of his celebration he was going to grab my phone and like throw it against the netting in front of us or something but i'm not letting go of my phone because uh i don't know what he's up to and he's now he like elbows me in the eye and uh he's grabbed he's really grabbing at this phone and right at to a point where i think mookie betts is like watching us fight as

he's coming around second base here and now i elbow him in the ribs and I look up and now he's like, he finally like, let's go to the phone and says, will you just give me my effing phone back? I was like, it's not your phone, dude. I'm trying to record you celebrate your phones on the floor. So he, he, he thought that I stole his phone and was like doing weird things with it so we almost had a fist fight as a result and I look over to the right

and my boy, and he's definitely my boy my 13 year old Archie is recording the whole thing records the whole altercation which I want to put on I want to try to put online but Dickie's mad because he knows he behaved like an ass buffoon

and now he's not allowing us to do it but I'm going to get him to sign off on it. So there you go. There's my boy. So the same person who took a selfie with Damon and Affleck and put it up without asking their permission is now upset. Now he won't give you permission to use this video. Is that what you're telling me? You know what, Bill?

You're right. I had not even considered that side of it. Damn it, you're right. Good. I'm going to write that down. Unbelievable. Oh, man. I was like, what is going on here?

My eye is a little sore. I was like, what the hell? What a maniac this guy is. Team one. He thought I took his phone. I don't have a good parent corner this week. Really? this guy is team one he's the one that took his phone um I don't have a good parent corner this week

really I don't know how to be good yeah I didn't want to force one I mean I took my son to game four

and they had the souvenir cup uh Dodger things right the world series cups it's like extra it's a giant Coke.

So I got that for my son. And, uh, I just gotta say, like, I really feel like that's like little kid cocaine. If they're going to drink that much Coke and that's it. Cause they're going to finish the souvenir cup. It's not like a little kid's going to go, I'm going to drink half of that. I shouldn't have all of it. Right. They're going to have the whole thing. So he has the whole thing. And then he's hopped up from the moment, you know, he he's just crashing like before nothing he's crashing the same way you would crash if you're like at some nightclub and you've mixed all these drugs together. And then they went back up and he's all like boisterous and crazy. Cause he's got like 42 ounces of Coke in his system and he's clapping and I'm settling them down. And he's like losing

his mind during the game. And, uh, and it was honestly like we were at a nightclub and we had just done an eight ball in the bathroom, but it was a world series souvenir cup. So maybe they could do something different now that the whole country is obese. Maybe it's just like a souvenir straw. Forget about the cup. It doesn't need to, you know, it's bigger than some apartments in LA at this point. Yeah, what I was thinking was there should be, the souvenir cup should have some sort of gimmick with it where it seems like it's a full soda, but it's really only like one third full. And the rest of it is like some weighted

whatever that moves around. He keeps thinking he's sipping the soda, but it's just nothing. That's pretty good. Put some heft to it. Either that or make it like a champagne glass kind of thing where it's just skinnier. Get skinny as it goes. Yeah.

Then we come home and he's up to like 1230 playing Fortnite because he's like trying to come down. It's like, Kyle, what do you take when you need to come down at the end of the day? Sleep. Ambien? Food. Food, usually. Food?

Food. Try to get the itis and fall asleep. Uncle Corner. That's what you do when you try to get the itis? Yeah. Absolutely. Keep a trash can close by. What's the thing when people mix drugs who are super druggy? Like love cocaine and then they go

the other way. Quaaludes. Are people still getting their hands on Quaaludes? I'm so old. I have no idea. They don't have Quaaludes anymore? I think they'd be expired Quaaludes, which I think the Wolf of Wall Street taught us is a no-no.

Maybe that's what they should have with the souvenir cups. They should have something that also brings the kid down. Like you have the giant souvenir cup,

but then it's like Sour Patch Kids, but they're flavored in a way that they make the kids sedated. They're like heavy Sour Patch Kids?

Yeah, they're sedated Sour Patch Kids. You mix those up together. Speaking of kids doing drugs, Kyle, did you have fun at my Halloween party yesterday? I had a fantastic time. Kyle has a story, actually. Kyle was there. Kyle has a story about Ken.

Oh, I was going to say. I know he corrupted him. Actually, can I just tell Kyle's story of Ken? I'll tell the edited version of it. He's like, Kyle tells me, I met Ken. I'm like, oh, you met Ken. He's like, yeah. Oh, that was the first time.

Yeah, and he's like, yeah. I was like, good guy, right? And he's like, yeah. He coughed on me twice. And the second time, stuff came out of his mouth and went all over my face. So that was a bummer. Was it Quaaludes? I don't think Quaaludes smelled like that.

I'm like, what do you mean he coughed at you? He's like, well, we were doing something and it ended up with him coughing. Debris, Sal, debris. He coughed debris on me. And so I wish that- Checking his prostate? What did it call?

Why is he coughing? Kyle, what happened? So then Kyle goes, so I wish that hadn't happened, but good guy. Overall, it was a good party. Wasn't a deal breaker for me. When he coughed debris on me. Other than that, good guy. So yeah, he got to meet Ken.

I was really sad I missed the Halloween party. I thought you dressed up as a Cobra Kai guy, which I thought was magnificent. You were missed. Yeah, I was YouTube themed. And yeah, I was a Cobra Kai guy. But I will say the ringer guys for the ladies there, you know, my cousin Mickey and actually Daniel, we get a lot of time here, his wife was like,

hey, introduce me to your friends. So now I have Jimmy Kimmel Live friends. I have Lock It In Fox friends. And I was like, oh, and i thought she pointed to the fox people so i go to move over to them and they're like no no no we don't want to meet them we want to meet those guys points to the ringer guys oh wow tate and titus and kyle i was like oh all right here you go wow. Made some noise there, yeah. One shining boner. That's a nice tattoo. So now they're taking this on the road. Oh, yeah.

This could be dangerous. Yeah, it's going to be good. So the Lock It In people were there? So you had like three different parts of your order? We had a lot of groups there, yeah. Exciting. A lot of coolers. A lot of coolers? And Ken? You know the sad thing, though, is that in the PC era, exciting a lot of coolers a lot of coolers and Ken

you know the sad thing though is that in the PC era you really nobody can cross any sort of line with a Hollyoan costume anymore I won't even tell stories

about some of the costumes that have happened in years past but now those days are just gone now it's like just Cobra Kai and that's as far

as anyone can go. Right. Yeah. Yeah. No, I, we had a guy dress up. He,

so it was YouTube theme. So anything you've ever seen on YouTube, and there was once a popular woman who stomped grapes and this guy went as the grape stomping woman and his feet were purple. And someone asked like, why do you have black feet? And he's like, no,

no, no. I have purple feet. And he's like, Oh, well, people are going to think you have black feet? And he's like, no, no, no. I have purple feet. Like, Oh, well, people are going to think you have black feet. Like,

Oh, Jesus Christ, please leave them alone. They purple shamed them. Yeah. They purple shamed them. The Barney supporters are coming out. I went,

my best costume ever. I went to, uh, in, uh, an eighties party that was actually at Jason Schiff's house. And I dressed as Billy Hicks from St. Elmo's Fire, the Rob Lowe character. Oh, nice.

And it was actually the only time I've ever really put time into a Halloween costume to really look like somebody. I was really proud of myself. Because I was always, like in college, would always just go as Brandon from 90210 pick, put fake sideburns on. I was ready to go. You've always taken Halloween a lot more seriously. I like it because it's a, you know, parties have that first half hour to get going, but the Halloween party is nice because you got the costume thing. You automatically going to talk about that. But yeah, I went as a,

one year we had a theme of criminals and I was a George Michael Vick. I dressed as George Michael and Michael Vick. I mixed them up. That's awesome. All right, cuz plug out, lock it in. Did you win this week? Lock it in. I won. I'm the King. I've won four to five weeks. This is really getting boring. Like this Todd Furman is supposed to be an expert. I wipe the floor with him every week, just about. That's Monday through Friday, 4.30 to 5.30 Eastern.

I'm also doing the pregame show with your boy Rob Stone on Saturdays on Fox. How have your picks been? I was 1-1 this week, so I give 2. What are you going to do? I have all kinds of photos of Rob Stone that are just not flattering for him, if you want me to forward any of those. Do you want to do? Do you want, I have all kinds of photos of Rob Stone that are just not flattering for him.

If you want to forward any of those. Do you want to bring those into the set? Yeah. Let me have all of those. I have photos of him with frosted tips. I have photos of him passed out. Like whatever you want. I have all the Rob Stone ammunition you'd ever want.

I'm going to have to go through your catalog and pick some there. Cause yeah. I mean, I can't do much better than through your catalog and pick some there. I mean, I can't do much better than Frosted Tips. No, I know. So, oh, he had a Seacrest phase, huh? Yeah. Yeah, he did. Awesome. He really did. That's awesome.

And also, my iHeart Emmy Award nominated podcast, Against All Odds, this Tuesday night. Oh, yeah. When is it? This Tuesday night, the voting is?

No, no, no. That's just when the podcast comes out this week. Oh, that one. Oh, but there's voting for the awards. I've thrown all my support behind your podcast. I've been voting for a while. I want people to vote for your podcast. We're in the same category.

They should. I mean, your podcast, you get, you get Barack Obama and Matt Damon and I get Harry. So, and we're still nominated. First of all, if you win,

I feel like I win too, because we're on the same team. I would much rather see you win. I, I didn't even tweet my podcast. I tweeted yours. We're up against each other. It's me and you and coward.

And what is it? Pardon my take. There's a few of us. Yeah. I want yours. We're up against each other. It's me and you and Coward. And what is it? Pardon my take. There's a few of us. Yeah. I want you to win, though. All right. Well, thank you, bud. You know, and I'll tell you, our friend Ken opened up a shell company in India where people

just call all day and vote for Against All Odds. So if this doesn't work out, something's wrong. And then he coughs to Brielle for Kyle. All right. Let's do it again. It's all odds. Sal, as always, good job by you. Good job by you. Congratulations.

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slash BS. It is now 12.05 PT. We took this one past midnight, Kyle. Feels good. Feels awesome. Let's wrap this up. I'll cough some debris on you.

We'll be back later in the week with more BS podcasts. We have some good stuff coming, as always. Thanks for your support. I want to see them on the wayside I don't have feelings with them On the wayside