The Bill Simmons Podcast - Brady’s Grisly Year, Mediocre QBpalooza, the Frisky Pats, and MLB Playoff Fixes With Cousin Sal

Episode Date: October 17, 2022

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss the Eagles rolling to 6-0 after defeating the Cowboys, struggling to identify the second-best team in the NFC, the Jets’ win over the P...ackers, Buccaneers-Steelers, Cardinals-Seahawks, “Panic Teams,” Bills-Chiefs, Ravens-Giants, and Patriots-Browns (2:02). Then, they guess the lines for NFL Week 7 (39:35), before checking in on the MLB playoffs (1:06:16). They close the show with Parent Corner (1:16:58). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:56 So stay tuned for that. I will be on the Prestige TV podcast at some point this week because I watched all seven episodes of The Watcher on Netflix. I'll hold my thoughts. You'll have to hear me in the Prestige pod. Coming up on this feed, on this podcast, on this episode, The Cuz. Week six, NFL. Guess the lines. First, our friends Cousin Sal is here. We're taping this a little after 8.30 on Sunday night. He just watched his Cowboys lose to the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:03:45 The Eagles are down 6-0. That sucked. What? They are? Yeah. Well, I looked this up because right now you would say, oh, after six weeks, Philadelphia, Buffalo, and then everyone else, right? That would be the Super Bowl pick. I looked up my notes from after week six in 2021. Who do you think our two teams were
Starting point is 00:04:07 that were the favorites after six weeks? Last year at this time? Yeah. I'll give you a hint. Neither of them made the Super Bowl. Oh, was it Cowboys and Patriots? No, we were pretty high on our dumb teams back then. It was Arizona and Buffalo. Really? I had my power poll that I did after week six, and those were was Arizona and Buffalo. Really? I had my power pull that I did after week six, and those were the co-favorites that I had after six weeks. My point is,
Starting point is 00:04:32 it's freaking early. Philly fans, you look great. You got an easy schedule the rest of the way. You're probably going to be a one seed unless something terrible happens, but it's a long, long, long season, and we've been here before. With that said... Are you sure we weren't forecasting the best and the worst team of 2022? Because that would make more sense with Buffalo and Arizona.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah, I know. That's a weird one. Arizona was good to start the year last year. Yeah, I know. I actually think this was a bigger game tonight for Philly than Dallas. What was your take as a Cowboys fan? Because you at least had the, eh, Dak's not out there. We play these guys again late in the season
Starting point is 00:05:07 and this is kind of a house money game. We're six-point underdogs. Nobody's really expecting us to win, but they like our defense. But I felt Phillies at home, they kind of had to take care of business. Well, yes. In general, this was more important, I thought, to Philly even though they now have a two-and-a-half
Starting point is 00:05:24 game lead over us. But four and two at this point without the starting quarterback, and Dak Prescott is the starting quarterback, for God's sakes. We saw Cooper Rush made a mad dash towards the end, but he also had a drive where any single pass could have been intercepted out of seven. And really, let's please put that to rest. I would have said before the game, it's Dak Prescott.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Like if you look at the metrics, he is a bottom five quarterback on passing downs, Cooper Rush. This has all been the defense. It's always been a defense, but yes, I was excited. I'm not excited, but I was like, yeah, this could be a throwaway game. I think we could play tough because of our defense, but if we're two, four and two fine going into Detroit and Chicago before the buy, that's great.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Uh, except they came back and made me think that we had a shot, which always sucks. There was a little Dick T's run there when it got to, uh, 2017 and you had momentum, you run the ball, Lane Johnson's out.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Collins were doing the whole, uh, uh, back. They just have not been the same since Lane Johnson went out. They run the montage. And then Philly came right down and scored. That was a great drive.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I got to give Philly credit. That was a perfect, perfect drive. They just ran over and sliced their way all over us and scored on the Brown pass there. And then they missed the field goal. Everybody who has plus six and plus seven loses on that missed field goal.
Starting point is 00:06:44 So that sucked too. But otherwise I'm happy with four and two. Well, you had a couple of funny things there. One is the Eagles are up nine. There's Diggs gets a penalty for whipping his helmet off 15 yards and Sirianni goes, you know what? Let's
Starting point is 00:07:00 go for two. Let's go up 11 instead of 10. It's like, what? You just want to be up two scores anyway. Put that on the kickoff, do some sort of high bloop kick, try to pin them inside the 10. No, they go for two.
Starting point is 00:07:12 They don't get it. So now it's nine. And then instantly your mind goes to the line. And some people had this at six, right? During the week. And you think, Oh,
Starting point is 00:07:19 and the over under, over under is 44 and a half. Oh, good point. The Cowboys could do the thing where they go down, they kick the field goal, they cut it to within a touchdown, try the onside,
Starting point is 00:07:29 which is exactly what happened, except he missed the 59-yarder. But yeah, Sirianni was just really messing with the Eagles things. I really liked the Eagles tonight. I ended up kind of breaking even for the day because of the Buck-Stewars game, which we'll talk about later.
Starting point is 00:07:44 But I just felt like this was a pretty big spot. Like what you mentioned with Cooper Rush, even though he was playing well, if you really dug in on the stats, Warren Sharp did some stuff on this this week about just like the yards per attempt. I think that's where I stole my stat from, by the way. I think I
Starting point is 00:07:59 stole that from Warren Sharp. Sorry, Sharp. Don't sue me. Let me go to jail already. I'm sorry. Sorry, sharp. Don't sue me or two. Yeah, let me go to jail already. I can't take watching these games anymore. But yeah, the thing is, when you play this team again in week 16,
Starting point is 00:08:11 they might have the one seed wrapped up at this point. That's true. That's true. Yeah. If it's anything like baseball playoffs, you don't need to win the division. You don't need to have the best record. But I was thinking just in general,
Starting point is 00:08:23 like, I don't know that they are going to be too many teams with more than 11 wins or even 11 wins. The Eagles, like you mentioned. The Bills, like you mentioned. Would you lock in anyone else at 11 wins? They'll have the over-unders tomorrow because they do that.
Starting point is 00:08:37 They're good about that. But I think we're looking at mostly 8, 9, 7, 10 win teams in the ranks of the 32. Yeah, so I was looking at my notes last year and there was definitely like, we always call it the Superbowl circle. Like how many teams do you think could actually win the Superbowl? And it's usually somewhere between like six and eight. And after week six, we had seven teams that I had written down. It was Arizona, Buffalo, Rams, Tampa, Dallas, Baltimore, and KC. So since he's not even in there.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I bet week 12 you wouldn't even have had Cincinnati. Right. The other team that wasn't in there was the Niners who came really close to beating the Rams in that game. This year I was looking at the circle. Philly, Buffalo. And then I'm going to ask
Starting point is 00:09:24 you two questions here. One, who is the second best team in the NFC in your opinion right now? Okay. I'm not going to answer that one. So what's the next one? You should do the buy-in. I'm not going to answer that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Let's go on to the next question. The Eagles are the best. Who's the second best? I hate every one of the Vikings wins, but they're five and one. I can't put them second. I can't. Well, the other five and one of the Vikings wins, but they're five and one. I can't put them second. I can't. Well, the other five and one is the Giants.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I respect what they're doing. You can't put them second. Are we talking about right now or who we think is going to get there? Because I think the Rams will be the second best. Oh, no. The Rams? I don't know. What?
Starting point is 00:10:03 They play defense, at least. They just lost their left tackle today. Archie could probably start on the line for them this week. Yeah, he's good. He probably could. Yeah. Well, who is it? Who do you have? You don't have Tampa. You don't have Green Bay. You're going to tell me the Falcons?
Starting point is 00:10:19 I wrote down Dallas and then Tampa. And Tampa just lost to Kenny Pickett and Mitch Trubisky today. But I still think they're a safer bet than any other team in the NFC for that three spot. I think your team is the logical second best team just because they lost today. It doesn't mean they're not the second best team in the conference. Wow. Yeah, because you got Dak coming back. You got a good defense and you can run the ball.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And I watched football today with the fantasy football guys from the ring are Danny, Danny and Craig and Mina Kimes and my friend Hershey. And we were just talking about- Is that the first time you met those guys? No, I've met those guys. We used to have an office. Okay, all right. I'm just being a dick.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Go ahead. We were talking about this new trend this year where they basically take away deep passes. Every team is just like, just, just, you know, gal just to death,
Starting point is 00:11:09 four yards, five yards, six yards. That's fine. We just don't want to give up 30. And I do wonder if the teams, this is why I'm, I continue to be bullish on my Patriots.
Starting point is 00:11:19 These teams with the running defense, ball control, game management recipe. This might be a good year for that. So I'm fine with that so i'm fine with that i'm fine with that and i absolutely think that's the biggest factor or one of the big factors leading to the low scores or some of these quarterbacks not putting up numbers like but why can't the smartest quarterbacks figure that out why can't stafford why can't brady why can't rogers fit why is it Mariota, um, you know, uh, profiting off of that new, you know, whatever, why is it like Matt Ryan close to 400 yards?
Starting point is 00:11:50 It just, that stuff doesn't make sense to me. Why the guys, why, why, why the Rogers can't adapt to the new system is beyond. Well, let's go one at a time. Good. Rogers receivers. He's clearly not comfortable. Like I was looking at, uh. I was looking at their stats. They don't have a receiver of 300 yards yet.
Starting point is 00:12:09 They've put six games. They've scored 14 points or less in three of the six. There was some stat about how he's never had this few kind of scoring points the whole thing through six games. I just don't think he trusts his receivers yet, whether that's going to happen. The one thing is it doesn't seem like Watson's going to help them this year. I mean, Watson has like seven catches for like 50 yards this year.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I think you're right about all of it. Like, you know, Dobbs and all these guys who show, you know, flashes. I don't even want to say brilliance, but what gets me is Rodgers. Does he care? Kyle, put the TikTok camera on. Kyle, turn it on. Turn it it on because I don't know if he cares or maybe ayahuasca is this wonder drug that just mellows you out to no end because I don't think he cares. That's obviously the thing here that he doesn't have pass catchers he can
Starting point is 00:12:58 rely on, but he's not screaming at his offensive line like Tom Brady is. And he's like, oh, well, all right, we can't score in London. We can't score in Lambeau. We're losing to the Giants and Jets. These are all very embarrassing things. But it doesn't seem to matter to him. Why is he so mellow? I don't know. Maybe he's easing his way into the air.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Well, they lost Cobb today, too, who is his little safety blanket. So we've lost Randall Cobb, Julio Jones, I guess we've lost. A.J. Green, we're about to lose. All these older receivers who, it's like old receivers and pass rushers. We're like, oh, the Bucs
Starting point is 00:13:33 signed Julio Jones. Whoa. And it's like these guys can never make it for four months. I think with Rodgers... Maybe that's why the Rams are reluctant to give, you know, back up the truck for Odell Beckham, but they need something too. All the quarterbacks you mentioned, Rodgers, I think it's his receivers. Stafford, they have the worst running backs,
Starting point is 00:13:52 probably out of the 32 teams. I mean, now it looks like Kim Akers is never going to play for them again. They were mixing up Daryl Henderson, Malcolm Brown, some dude named Rivers from the practice squad. All of them look like below average. You would never pick any of them up in a fantasy league. But then the offensive line has been decimated. Like they just keep losing guys.
Starting point is 00:14:11 And I don't think that Carolina team, you know, you got Robbie Anderson fighting with his coach, coaches of the side that basically send them home in Antonio Brown style. Yeah, we'll never see him again. Now the Panthers, I think, will probably be a sell team. But yeah, so the Ramsey offensive line. And then Brady, combo of, it doesn't seem like he's had enough reps with the receivers yet.
Starting point is 00:14:35 The line, as we saw with him screaming at them during the timeout, I don't think he wants to get hit anymore. And I feel like the Rodgers thing and the Brady thing is similar. Both of these guys, I don't know whether they're kind of saving it for the last half of the season, but just eye test, he's getting rid of the ball.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I would say a half to a full second faster than he needs to. He's not holding it for that extra. I'm going to get killed, but I'm going to wait. He's just not, he's just getting rid of it. And he doesn't look like Brady. And I think he's getting frustrated at everybody else, but he doesn't practice on Wednesdays. He fucking went to Bob Craft's wedding on Friday night in
Starting point is 00:15:13 New York City. I didn't think he wanted to do that either. They have a game on Sunday. Right. Why is he in New York City on Friday night? That's insane. He's supposed to be the leader of the team. He's got all the rules are different for him. He missed preseason for 10 days. Like football is supposed to be this team sport where everybody's on the same side. Nobody's bigger than the team. He's acted like he's bigger than the team for 10 months. He got his coach fired.
Starting point is 00:15:34 All the shit he's doing. I think it's an embarrassing year for him. I really do. It's one thing. I think it is too. It's one thing to leave your team in the preseason and then that just pisses off potentially some of your teammates but to skip a walkthrough on Saturday and then
Starting point is 00:15:50 the Steelers find out about this now you're giving other teams bulletin board material right so now you're pissing off everybody yeah this is embarrassment yeah you know who wasn't at Bob Craft's wedding on Friday night Bailey fucking Zappy oh yeah yeah you know where he was in his hotel room studying for the Browns stop who wasn't at Bob Craft's wedding on Friday night? Bailey fucking Zappy. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:06 You know where he was? In his hotel room studying for the Browns. Stop it. That's the next Tom Brady right there. Stop this. Yeah. 2001 Tom Brady's in his hotel room studying for the Browns. This is crazy talk. I'm just telling you.
Starting point is 00:16:17 You beat the Browns. It's fine. Who do you think regrets more? Brady just coming back or Rodgers loading up with this giant Green Bay contract that now made them trade Adams and now his team
Starting point is 00:16:31 clearly doesn't have it. I'll do you one better. Are we sure either one of those was ever good? Brady or Rodgers? Maybe I took it too far. All right. No. I think Rodgers right now regrets it, but I think Brady I'm trying to think of, it's funny because I was thinking, what if he went to the Dolphins? Now they've had four quarterbacks hurt in four consecutive weeks, which is just unheard of.
Starting point is 00:16:57 The starter goes out, but I think he's bummed. He went, came back to Tampa Bay after all that. I think he's got Miami. Yeah. Yeah. I think he is too. I think there's bummed he came back to Tampa Bay after all that. I think he is too. Could have gone Miami. Yeah. Yeah, I think he is too. I think there's real regret. He's got a lot of personal life shit going. And the irony of the whole thing is Tampa is probably either the second or third best team in the NFC.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And as we see year after year, it matters where you are around Thanksgiving. It doesn't really matter where you are now. Where it does matter is our wallets. Because you and I had the B had the bucks and rightfully so. Just thrown into parlays and teasers. It's like, all right, they actually need to win the game. They're favored by 10 against this decimated Steelers team who's playing Pickett.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Then we get the gift of Pickett gets hurt during the game. Not a gift. We opened it up. It was a turn. And Mitch comes in. Yeah. Yeah, Mitch comes in. Mitch is completing third and 14s over the middle.
Starting point is 00:17:51 He's throwing dimes to chase Claypool to extend drives. He's running around. It's like, what the hell is going on? I'm going to lose to Mitch Trubisky? I did. And they killed the clock. And the Steelers had like three important, forget about Watt. He's out, but three other like important players out you know, Fitzpatrick and others and that's what I thought. I was like, all right
Starting point is 00:18:12 Tampa's offense is going to get right again. No, never happened. I mean really when you look at it like Stafford didn't it ended up winning because Panthers can't play four quarters of football, but you know when Stafford Brady and Rogers can't put up a touchdown in the first half of either of their games, I was looking at these numbers here. Look at these winning numbers. Geno Smith, 197 yards.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Kirk Cousins, 175. Daniel Jones, 173. Jalen Hurts, 155. 155. I think they had like 268 yards of offense. Trubisky, 144. Mariota, 129. Zach Wilson, 110. These are all winners today.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Crazy. I want to talk about that QB stuff after the break because I think it's absolutely crucial. Carson Wentz, 99. To try to understand this season, you almost have to look through the quarterbacks. I think the thing that is the most shocking to me, because Solak and I did a whole thing
Starting point is 00:19:07 about the end of a QB generation on Thursday's pod. We were talking about Brady Rogers. You see the finish line now with these guys. Stafford, you can kind of see it. Matt Ryan, he's over the finish line. You go through everybody. We're moving to this new era. Matt Ryan played the best of anybody today.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Matt Ryan was awesome in the Jacksonville game. There's another one I lost where he reached back. Matt Ryan played better than Rogers, Brady or Stafford. And I did not expect it either. Let's take a quick break. And then I want to talk more about the quarterbacks. This episode is brought to you by Movember.
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Starting point is 00:20:29 them coming. See? Safe riding sets an example. Yeah, an example for me. Because safety is learned. It's learned. Okay, give it up. Give what up? Really? Really, really. This message is brought to you by Metrolinks. Okay, so you mentioned this before the break. Quarterbacks who won today, Mariota, Zappi, Geno, Dimes,
Starting point is 00:20:52 washed Matt Ryan, and we had a picket-trabisky combo. We had four upsets. The Giants were plus 200. Jets plus 280. Falcons plus 175. Steelers plus 200. Jets plus 280. Falcons plus 175. Steelers plus 360. One of the old, old, old things you could always bank on was you could always bet against bad QBs.
Starting point is 00:21:15 It's fine. You know, good team against a bad QB. Throw them in a tease. Throw them in a parlay. Don't worry about it. I think it's over. I don't think there's any rhyme or reason in a tease. Throw them in a parlay. Don't worry about it. I think it's over. I don't think there's any rhyme or reason in this anymore. Mariota was like, what was he like?
Starting point is 00:21:29 13 out of 14 today? Completions? Yeah. Well, you can't get out of it. You can't find the bad QB is the problem. They're all about the same, right? I mean, the bad QB is Aaron Rodgers. And QB is, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:43 All right. You want to say PJ Walker? That's fine. Even he was 10 for 16. But yeah, these numbers't know. All right, you want to say PJ Walker? That's fine. Even he was 10 for 16. But yeah, these numbers are insane. You're right. What was Mariota? 13 for 14?
Starting point is 00:21:51 Is that what you said? Yeah, I think it was. And Trevor Lawrence was 20 for 22, but they lost. That was some really weird numbers on the board. Yeah, Trevor Lawrence. That's a team.
Starting point is 00:22:03 So my fear, I really liked the Jags today. And my fear was the coaching where the Colts just have the tendency to pull shit out of their assholes. And the Jaguars had this tendency to just shoot themselves in the foot, right? So the Jags are in control for two and a half quarters. It's like fourth and one. Of course, they're going to go for it because Peterson is classic. Oh, we got to go.
Starting point is 00:22:24 We're aggressive. Aggressive analytics. He's a practitioner. And they run the option with Lawrence. They run an actual college option play, which of course gets stuffed. The game flips. Ryan gets hot.
Starting point is 00:22:35 And all of a sudden, they lose to the Jack. We see this over and over again with these dumbass calls. This pseudo-aggressiveness that over and over again just backfires on these teams. I don't get it. I don't understand it. Like the Cardinals today, they passed up field goals twice. And so, oh, fourth and four got Kyler. And it's 9-3 instead of 9-9. It's like,
Starting point is 00:22:57 well, how did that work out for you? And why do you trust your completely erratic quarterback on any fourth and four? I don't trust them to get four yards ever. They're so bad. And I know their running game is not anything special now with Connor. And maybe it was smoke and mirrors with him anyway. But I don't. And New Hopkins comes back next week. I don't even think it matters.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I don't think they'll play tough against teams. But there's going to be every two or three weeks. They're going to put up a stinker like they did at Seattle there. And Kyle is going to be no help. And we got sacked six times. And some weren't even his fault. It's crazy. They're 2-4 for the season.
Starting point is 00:23:37 They're minus 28. In the first half, they have not led in a single first half this season at halftime. They're 0-6. In the first half this season at halftime. They're 0 for 6. In the first halves this year, one touchdown, 29 points. That was one of my bets this week. Seattle first half, plus 0.5. Why not bet against Arizona every single first half
Starting point is 00:23:57 until they figure it out? Smart. Smart. Bet in the AFC South, dumb. But bet in Seattle plus a half smart I think the combo of you get slaughtered in the Rams playoff game right
Starting point is 00:24:12 that was about as bad disjointed disorienting name a sad word it just couldn't have gone worse and you come out of that game and my questions were like wait what's going on with Kyler Murray? Is this somebody I can actually win playoff games with?
Starting point is 00:24:28 And what's going on with Cliff Kingsbury? Is this a coach you can actually win with two years in a row? They just go nosedive. What do they do? They give Cliff an extension and they give Kyler a massive contract. And now it's like on Twitter, it was Fire Cliff
Starting point is 00:24:44 was trending. Kyler's talented. I don't know if that guy's ever going to be somebody that wins like three playoff games in a row. I think he's really, really, really erratic. So I don't know if you're a Cardinals fan. You don't even have really any outs. You could fire Kingsbury.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And you can fire him because that's the one thing that the Matt Rule thing proved right we've seen it before like they said goodbye to 42 million dollars it doesn't count against your cap if you fire a coach right so you just have these billionaire owners like all right well I want to win I don't want to be saddled with this guy's not counting against my cap I'm going to get rid of Kingsbury even though I gave him a four-year extension because one thing that's obvious is he's not getting the most out of Kyle
Starting point is 00:25:25 Amari. He just isn't at this point. Or how about game planning? When you go into halftime losing six games in a row, that has to mean something. Yeah. He's got that gigantic board, that laminated board in front of him. It really looks like a poster board you'd bring to school in sixth grade
Starting point is 00:25:44 to put your project on the Incan ruins on or something. And yet, there's not a play in there that works. The only thing that works is the improvising by Kyla Murray. I know that word somewhere. Yeah, I was thinking of the panic
Starting point is 00:26:00 teams. Green Bay, 3-3. We talked about them. Arizona's 2-4. These are teams that I think at least some to most people thought were going to be good. Tampa Bay, 3-3. And then Kansas City, I'm throwing in there, 4-2
Starting point is 00:26:16 only because I think this was a really bad week for them. And we didn't talk about that Bills game yet. They should have lost the Vegas game. They had a lot of trouble covering Vegas. I thought Vegas shot themselves in the foot. That was another weird coaching game. But for the most part,
Starting point is 00:26:32 I thought Vegas outplayed them. And I thought talent-wise, we're at least even with them and maybe been a tiny bit better. When you say Vegas shot themselves in the foot, I have to scroll through the team news because that could be right out. I have no idea what that place is. I didn't mean that literally. Hypothetically.
Starting point is 00:26:48 But then this Buffalo game just felt like... I know the final score was close, but I didn't think Buffalo played well and they just made plays when they needed to, but I never really doubted that Buffalo was going to make a run there. I like where they are compared
Starting point is 00:27:03 to KC. That was my takeaway. Compared to Buffalo, you mean? Yeah, I just think, I think if they played 10 times, I think Buffalo wins eight. I agree. But this is one of the teams I'm talking about where I don't think they get to 11 or 12 wins. Like, I'm not sure who,
Starting point is 00:27:19 right? So you got the Bills who we say should run away with everything, even though you at dinner the other day, try to convince me that there's a sprained ankle away. The Patriots are from. I said, Pat's 24 to one in the AFC East. Was that wrong?
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah. You're wrong. They're going to lose that. Yeah. If you want to lose money, that's fine. But 24 to one, that's like the all time long shot.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Is it still 24? It's just, I'll look at it now. Keep, keep talking. All right. No, I don't,
Starting point is 00:27:43 I don't have much to say other than I don't think I put them in the panic because they're going to win that division at 10-7. I mean, the Chargers don't impress me. Broncos are garbage. And the Raiders, who I think are good, can't get out of their own way. So they're not going to get to 8-9-10 wins. So I think the Chiefs could, Andy Reid could kind of like lay off the gas a little and still go 10-7 and take this.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Pats are down to 17-1, just for the record. Here's where I would push back on my 20-year-old friend Cousin Sal. Something's different about the Chiefs, and how I knew it was when they got the ball back with a minute 10 left, I didn't think they were going to score. And I just felt like it's too many yards. It's not enough time.
Starting point is 00:28:31 And Kelsey's the only guy on this team that I actually trust. And you could double team him and make them move down the field. And I don't think the chiefs can do it. We had for three straight years when the chiefs were down in any game, you would text me and house and hands. And you'd be like, chiefs plus one 30, you would text me and House and Hatch and you'd be like, Chiefs plus 130. We always felt like they were coming back. They had a real identity. I supported the Tyreek trade. I got it. I thought it was something, I don't think you can pay Mahomes
Starting point is 00:28:56 and Tyreek that much money together. I get it. I got the philosophy behind it. I was in, I picked the Chiefs to win the Superbowl. I thought push comes to shove. Mahomes is so great. He'll make everything work. But then it's like you look at Sky Moore going over the middle and he's late and Mahomes' pass is late and there's two guys there and it's just like that shit wasn't happening last year. So I would actually be concerned
Starting point is 00:29:18 if I'm a Chiefs fan. But only against the Bills, right? You'd be concerned down three with a minute and a half left against anyone else? Down four? Well, last week against Vegas, Vegas fucks up. They go for two. Because of aggressive analytics, the new trend
Starting point is 00:29:34 in the world. And Casey gets the ball back and it's like, alright, two first downs, this game over. What happened? Three and out. They punted. It's not the same offense. See, that's where you and I disagree because they're just killing it. They've always had a tough time running the ball, whether it's McKinnon or Clyde Edwards-Alaire or
Starting point is 00:29:49 whatever, but they were down one, so they didn't need the first down. But, I don't know. He had 338 yards passing. He had second most passing yards in the league today. That's fine. Did you think he was going to score? No, but only because of the bills. Did you think he was going to get it? No, but because it was the billsills any other team
Starting point is 00:30:05 I would say I wouldn't panic because I would think they'd be a favorite to score one of the things with the Tyreek thing and this was the narrative
Starting point is 00:30:13 we were fed the whole offseason was they were going to be able to run the ball control the clock more play action it was going to open up more of the offense
Starting point is 00:30:19 I haven't seen it I just whatever we were promised in the offseason. They're middle of the pack. They're like 16th on the run game. We change our mind on the Chiefs three times a year. And then at the end of the year, they're like 11-5 or 12-6.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Well, remember their record last year? They're 3-4 after seven games last year. I think what worries me this year is it feels like if you can actually just double Kelsey and take him out, I'm not positive what plan B is. I guess I'm more concerned than you are. With
Starting point is 00:30:49 Green Bay, I'm not writing them off yet because maybe the receivers thing will get better. I still kind of like their defense, but that Jets game was... To lose to the Giants and the Jets back, that feels like a cry for
Starting point is 00:31:05 help. Like when was the last time anyone lost to those two teams in a row? I would, I was going to take that stance, but the Jets are better than them. They are. The Jets are better. They did some of that more talent.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I agree. Almost, almost everywhere, right? Defensively harder hitters. Um, they get to the ball faster. Uh,
Starting point is 00:31:23 they have a great run game. Uh, all right. Well, Zach Wilson, I don't know. Maybe that's a wash at this point. Zach Wilson and Aaron Rogers, even though he's just hovering around 100 yards. Zach Wilson was bad in that game. Yeah, it was 10 of 18. Yeah, he wasn't that good, but he didn't need to be. That's the offense that Rogers needs, right?
Starting point is 00:31:41 Brees Hall looks like they hit jackpot with that. It's like in general, it looks like they nailed the draft. New York football is down nine and three. The Giants game, they come back from, what were they, 10 down? Yeah. Like I would have thought the Giants were one of those teams, like as long as it's a three-point game or they have the lead, they're fine.
Starting point is 00:32:02 If they're behind, no way. Well, we learned that wasn't true. Saquon comes out of the game, his shoulder's dangling. It's like, oh man, all right, here we go. Saquon's there. No, comes back in. They get a touchdown. They harass Lamar. It was a nice little revenge game for Wick
Starting point is 00:32:17 Martindale. That team's frisky, man. You look at their schedule, it really seems like 11-6 is possible, which is i took them well here's the one thing we'll go over the lines in a second 11 and 6 is possible i had them like eight nine before the year i was a believer in the giants but there's also they could lose every single game and i'm surprised by their line but we'll go over it in a second but uh they could lose every single game but definitely definitely, definitely some cupcakes on there.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Five and one. This team's five and one. You know who they remind me of is what Tennessee did last year, where it didn't totally make sense. You felt like every week they were going to lose. They were built around their running back and kind of the running game, the whole thing. And then Henry goes out, and they kind of kept it going, and it didn't really make a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Yeah. But they're around. They're really well coached and i would say being well coached is a bigger advantage than maybe it's ever been these days i think that's been one of the things with the patriots too the patriots i told you the the green bay game two weeks ago i told you i thought i saw something in that game they beat detroit last week. Whatever. It's Detroit. This week, they beat the hell out of Cleveland. And now people go,
Starting point is 00:33:29 yeah, but it's Cleveland. It's like now Cleveland was A, favored. B, the one thing they could do is run the ball really well. The Pats shut that down completely. They made plays. Their defense is really fast.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And Ramondre has emerged. I mean, he's one of the best running backs on the tvs every week he really is you know i have him on my fantasy team if you'd like to trade for him i tried yeah tried well you wanted you wanted him for chase for remandre and waddle which i think would have been a good but chase went nuts today i'm glad i know now it's well who's your other good receiver well just, Justin Jefferson. I'm not... I can't trade him.
Starting point is 00:34:06 No, listen. I was going to make that trade, but then you traded... Then you were going to give me A.J. Smith, right? Or A.J. Brown. I was going to give you Devonta Smith, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Devonta Smith? Oh, Devonta. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't want to root for him. And after you lose hard... I was going to make the trade. To be dead honest with you, I was going to make the trade,
Starting point is 00:34:23 and then we went to dinner, and we're at a steakhouse, and it came time to order dessert. And everyone did the thing like, oh no, no, I'm not getting dessert. And like someone broke me and said, oh, let's just get one of each. And then you're like, no, no, no, I'm getting my own dessert, banana cream pie. I was like, no, let's just split three. You're like, no, I don't want to split. It's a steakhouse, just split dessert. So you were very selfish. I split my dessert. And then I didn't make, no, I don't want to split. It's a steakhouse. You split dessert. So you've heard my dessert. And then I didn't make the trade. I didn't trade.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I didn't make the trade. No, you saw how big it was. And you're like, you know what? You could take it. You could have some of this after. I was like,
Starting point is 00:34:54 no, I think my hot take is it's gross to split desserts. What are not dessert? I didn't want some of your steak. We're at a steak house. It's the end of the night. You get desserts and you get a taste of everybody. It's like,
Starting point is 00:35:04 it's everybody's got their spit all over their spoons. They're putting the spoons back in. All the spoons are touching. We might as well make out. You know what? I made out with Ramondre this weekend and you didn't. He's on my team. He is great.
Starting point is 00:35:16 My team's good, Sal. I'm telling you. They hit this draft, this 2022 draft, combined with getting Mack and Ramondre and Barmore in the last draft. This is what has not happened for this team in years, where they just actually hit two drafts. They got two cornerbacks. They got Zappi, who at the very least is a competent quarterback.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Taequann Thornton, did you see him today? He finally unleashed him. He was really good. And then Cole Strange, everybody made fun of him. And that guy's out there just blocking everybody. I think this Pats team is good. I think Belichick knows it too. What happens?
Starting point is 00:35:51 What happens? I get their old school confidence with him again. Is it Zappy hour when Matt comes back or no? Kyle, turn the camera on. Turn it off. What are you going to do about this? I think Zappy's good I think he's legit good
Starting point is 00:36:07 with that said if they had used Mac the way they're using Zappy now and Mac had allowed that to happen I think Mac would have been just as good the key is how do you get Mac
Starting point is 00:36:17 to game manage like what Zappy's doing put him in positions to succeed not be Joe Burrow but just keep the game fucking moving throw to your tight ends, throw little screens,
Starting point is 00:36:27 and don't make mistakes. Mac killed us. He cost them two wins in the first three weeks. Zappy doesn't make mistakes. And I'll tell you this, if Belichick feels like Mac isn't going to game manage and not make mistakes, and that's not the number one
Starting point is 00:36:43 priority, he'll keep playing Zappy. He doesn't care. He benched Bledsoe right after our $100 million contract. He doesn't care. He's going to do whatever is best for the team. I think it's going to be Mack. Because this would be the exact conversation I would have with fellow Cowboys fans before tonight's game about
Starting point is 00:37:00 Mack Jones and about Cooper Rush and Dak Prescott. I would say Cooper Rush doesn't make mistakes and we have a great defense and that's all that matters. At some point... But what is it about...
Starting point is 00:37:15 Cooper Rush had like 111 yards passing. At some point if you carry a rabbit's foot and you don't do anything else but this rabbit's foot is good luck, do you leave it in just because you have good luck? Or do you just go with the pedigree quarterback who you know could take you further? That's why you have to put Mac Jones in.
Starting point is 00:37:34 So I agree with you, but Zappi was really good the last two weeks. All right. And he had poise. The bigger thing for me is the poise. It's like a couple weeks ago, I asked Rosillo and Van. We were texting about college football because I know nothing about college football. And I was like, I don't get this Bryce Young thing. He seems too small to me.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I don't see it. Like, how is this guy going to be the number one pick? He seems even smaller than Kyle. I don't get it. And Rosillo said, watch his poise. When you watch Alabama, just watch how fucking calm he is. And no matter what the situation is, he's the calmest guy.
Starting point is 00:38:09 So I watched that and I was like, after I watched enough of it and I watched the game Saturday too, it's like, I get it. The poise, that's the most important thing. He took 75 hits and still had a good shot to win the game. Zappy has poise
Starting point is 00:38:23 and he does make throws and he is accurate. And I think he's pretty good. So at the worst case scenario, at least he's an asset, but I do think it's going to be Mac's job. I will tell you this though, in Boston, like my dad's already, he's out. He's like, it's Zappy time. So Mac Pack, trade him to Carolina. He's ready to turn the team over. I still like Mac and I think they made it too complicated for him. Yeah. Kyle, will you do me a favor
Starting point is 00:38:48 and isolate the audio where Sports Guy says, Zappy has poise. And we may never use it again, but I do think it could be fun down the road at some point. Such a dick. Let's take a break. All right. Before we do week seven lines, I have the unconventional winners of 2022 for you.
Starting point is 00:39:13 So far through six weeks. This is not like Josh Allen. I'm giving you randos. Remind you of Stevenson. We mentioned him. Belichick has not used a running back like this since Corey Dillon. Where he's just like, here are the car keys, take us home. This has not happened in 18 years.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Remondre has been absolutely incredible this season. He's a winner. Fourth round pick, plus if you have him on your fantasy team, that's like a flip. That's a flip the fantasy season guy. Yeah, it is. Dayball is an absolute winner this season. When you think like all these crappy coaches
Starting point is 00:39:50 that get hired, this guy has completely changed not only what we're seeing on the field, but the demeanor of the Giants. They show him the sidelines. He seems like somebody that would be friends with Brother Brian Harry and Darren. Doesn't he? He'd be wearing like a Giants windbreaker and eating like a 64-ounce veal Darren. Yes. Doesn't he? Yeah, yeah. He'd be wearing like a Giants windbreaker
Starting point is 00:40:05 and eating like a 64-ounce veal chop. Exactly. Yeah. But that's the best Giants coach. He'd probably share his dessert. I guarantee he'd share his dessert. Geno Smith, age 32, who's now better than Russell Wilson
Starting point is 00:40:20 and is super competent week after week and keeps game-managing games. I have him as a winner. Roseman, the Eagles GM. Russell Wilson and is super competent week after week and keeps game managing games. I have him as a winner. Uh, Roseman, the Eagles GM, they win the super bowl. And four years later,
Starting point is 00:40:30 all of a sudden he has this super talented team again. Impressive. Washed up Matt Ryan. I had the shovel in the dirt for him. And that guy said three comeback wins. Two of them were dubious, but they counted. And then today was a legitimate one.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And it really does seem like his team believes in him. And he's like, I'm just throwing the pitman every time. Are you going to cover him? You're not? I'm going to throw to him again. And they're 3-2-1. They looked like they were dead in the AFC South, but at least he's better than Wentz.
Starting point is 00:41:00 So that was a winner. Billionaire Arthur Smith, 6-0 against the spread. Did you see that? And in first place. And in first place. So I had Carolina as the, I think that's going to be the fucked up team that makes the playoffs. It looks like it's going to be Atlanta. Yeah. Or the Giants. I guess maybe
Starting point is 00:41:17 we'll have two. Matt Patricia took an incredible amount of shit this whole offseason. Oh my God. This moron's going to be our offensive coordinator. The game plan they ran today was great. He deserves praise. And then last but not least for unconventional winners, Jets fans.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I was just going to say, you got to give the Jets something. Yeah. Yeah. Multiple Jets fans emailed me today. Like, we killed the draft. Like, when was the last time Jets fans were excited about how they did in a draft and who's on their team and the fact that they actually have talent
Starting point is 00:41:50 I guess the message is if you draft in the top 10 for 7 straight years you're going to end up with some talent but when you have 2 picks in the top 12 yeah for sure one of them is probably going to be running away with a cheese head after a game at some point yeah sauce is good I don't know if I'd add anyone to that maybe Daniel Snyder One of them is probably going to be running away with a cheese head after a game at some point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Yeah. Sauce is good. I don't know if I'd add anyone to that. Maybe Daniel Snyder. He seems to win. I think he's got the league. Yeah. He's got the league dead to rights.
Starting point is 00:42:16 He's a big winner. He wins to everyone's chagrin. Let's dig into the Lions because I want to talk baseball at the end because I have a couple of baseball thoughts. Okay. So this is week seven. What are the records? What do we got? I have a couple of baseball thoughts. Okay, so this is week seven. What are the records? What do we got? I have it here. I won by virtue of a house jumping in there. 2-2-2.
Starting point is 00:42:32 I did need a house. You need a drunk house. Two wins, two losses, two ties. Week seven. Thursday night. Got the Cardinals on Thursday night. It's getting a little better. This could be a Kingsbury last stand game.
Starting point is 00:42:48 I was looking at both these teams. Not that the coach is going to get fired for New Orleans, but it could be a loser leaves town playoff-wise. Yeah, that was a tough loss. The Saints seem like they were in control that whole game. I had for underdog parlay, I had Giants-Saints
Starting point is 00:43:03 and Giants-Seahawks. Bengals ended up coming back. Andy Dolan was another one with 160 yards that could have won the game. Yeah. So this game's in Arizona, which I think is great because I think if anything goes wrong, the Boo Birds are going to come out. Right. I think it's a three-point line.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I got cards by three. That's exactly what I had. It's only two. Not trusting Arizona, Vegas just yet. What a weird situation. Yeah. I mean, no outs
Starting point is 00:43:36 with that quarterback. Would you want to trade for him? Would you be excited? Would you trade Dak Prescott for Kyler Murray at the contract? I don't think so. I don't know. People are getting excited about Hopkins? I don't think so. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:46 People are getting excited about Hopkins coming back. I'm like, I don't know that there's a receiver that helps that guy. Now, Marquise Brown went down also, right? So, they have to have something. But no, no, I'm big on homework. Sunday marquee game. I don't have one. We should mention the Bills, the Rams, the Vikings, and Eagles are off.
Starting point is 00:44:06 That's a rough, rough buy quad there. And really run for fantasy. There's going to be some dudes starting this week. Yeah, there's no great game. This was, should we call this the official pumpkin patch week? Apple picking? Yeah. Apple picking.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Is this it? I think this is it. We're getting close, right? It's the 16th. It'll be the 23rd next week. Yeah, this picking. Is this it? I think this is it. We're getting close, right? It's the 16th. It'll be the 23rd next week. Yeah, this has got to be it. Yeah, my daughter's got a Sunday morning soccer game. There's a 100% chance I'm going because I don't know what I'm missing out of these early games.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I don't think there's a marquee game. I have three watchables. First one is Bengals Falcons. The Falcons every week are just an entertaining games. Just over and over again. Something's fun. And the fourth quarter is always fun. The Bengals three and three,
Starting point is 00:44:52 three and three or three. What's the record? Three and three. All teams three and three. Yeah. It's like a pretty rocky three and three. Really? It feels like they clawed their way three and three.
Starting point is 00:45:04 I would say Rocky five. Rocky five. Yeah. It feels like they clawed their way three and three. I would say Rocky five. Rocky five. Yeah, Rocky five. Yeah, but the only thing I'll say is Chase did this last year, right? Where he broke out and then he just kept going. Yeah, like seven straight games
Starting point is 00:45:17 where he broke out. So maybe they're there. And Higgins came back today. I have the Bengals by five and a half at home against Atlanta. All right, I'm going to get this. I have the Bengals by five and a half at home against Atlanta. All right, I'm going to get this. I said seven. It's six and a half.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Okay. This is a team that always covers Atlanta. Well, it's getting silly now. Because I was going to bet them today, and I heard they were five and oh, which had only happened like twice in the last 10 years against the spread. So I'm like, all right,
Starting point is 00:45:45 can't remember a 6-0. Right. So they're going to go 7-0 against the spread? It looks like it, yes. Probably. You're taking the focus. I don't know. I mean, Mariota, I think I came on last week. I was like, he's good for one mistake and that'll lose him a game, but they'll
Starting point is 00:46:02 cover and maybe he doesn't even make mistakes anymore. Such a weird team. It's really sad that both the leagues we're in, Pitts went for around the same price as Kelsey. And it got to the point today where he scored a touchdown. I think he was as surprised
Starting point is 00:46:18 as we were. He was celebrating like he was the left guard who caught the one-yard play-action pass. It was like, I spent $30 on you. Please don't be this excited for your first touchdown. Please get going, Kyle Pitts, for the love of God. Next game, it's in LA.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Chargers-Seahawks. What do we think for Seahawks fans of this game? 40%? Oh, how many? 40%? Yeah, there's a lot out here. Yeah, there's a lot out here. Yeah, there really is. Our friend Tall John will be there.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I know a few, actually. Yeah. Yeah, 30%, 35, 40, right in there. Tall John will be there with his extra large jersey that only goes to his belly button? Exactly. And no one takes up seven seats anyway. I mean, he's not a fat man, but he's very, very tall. Tall John, one of the great nicknames.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Yeah. He's not going to shed at any time soon. he's very, very tall. Tall John, one of the great nicknames. Yeah. He's not going to shed at any time soon. He's like six foot eight for the people listening at home. He's tall and his name's John. So his nickname became Tall John. That's how it works. Although his nickname became Tall. Nobody even called him John. They just called him Tall. Yeah. It was Tall. It wasn't TJ. It wasn't anything. And I wonder if osteoporosis sets in, if we'll ever have to change it, but it'll always be tall Judd.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Used to be tall Judd. Yeah. We get in trouble talking about our friends. I was just thinking that too. I'm not even going to mention him. I'm not mentioning him. I'm not mentioning him.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I'm not mentioning him. I'm not mentioning him. Yeah. Not mentioning him. Relationships have been ruined because of this podcast. Not saying anything. Talk to Bill's publicist
Starting point is 00:47:41 if you have any problems with him talking about him. Oh, no. Chargers, home for the Seahawks, and I don't think this gets to seven. So I'm going to say Chargers by six. All right, that's what I said. I'm glad you didn't say six and a half because that's what the answer is. I know the hammer will drop on Seattle,
Starting point is 00:48:06 but I don't trust the Chargers ever giving this many points. I don't care what's going on. Do you think every front office had at least one... How many guys are in a front office? Between 15, 20 men and women who work for the decision-making?
Starting point is 00:48:22 Every team had to have one person who presented a Geno Smith case, right? Like, here's Geno Smith. If you look at the times he's played, I actually, I had our stats guys run this model, and here's who he could be, and he's kind of like, I think he could be like kind of a poor man's Lamar,
Starting point is 00:48:41 maybe even a little better than that. And here's the case. No one's listening at that point. He could be at our quarter. We get our quarterback for two million. And this person's just laughed out of the room. In 31 teams. Did you list him as a winner or the Seattle?
Starting point is 00:48:54 I did. I listed Gino. Yeah. 75% completion, over 1300 yards, nine touchdowns, two interceptions. You can't ask for more than that out of that guy. I got to be honest. I didn't realize how complicated the Russell Wilson Seahawks fan thing was.
Starting point is 00:49:08 The fans, they liked the winning that he brought to the team, but they didn't really enjoy a lot of the Russell Wilson experience. And I think it was like having the family member that you have to pretend you like at Thanksgiving and Easter and Christmas, but you really don't
Starting point is 00:49:24 like them. But it's like, hey, Uncle So-and-so, hey, how are you? But deep down, you're like, I fucking hate this guy. And now that's all coming out with the Wilson trade. And everyone's animosity is trickling out. Plus, Gino is really
Starting point is 00:49:39 fun to watch. And Gino kind of runs that offense the way they really wanted Russ to run it the last couple years. Because I got so few things right in the preseason, I'd like to brag about this. I didn't think he'd be that good, Russell Wilson. I didn't think he'd be this bad. But I was also like, oh my god. Everyone's like, oh, what a great situation he's getting into going to Denver. Oh, Jerry, Judy Judy and Cortland Sutton.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Didn't people like Lockett and Metcalf? Don't they like those guys? What's wrong with them? Remember them going for a lot of money in fantasy drafts. Yeah. He doesn't run the ball. Anyone who watches, anyone who's at him on fantasy knows that there's no two or three design plays for him anymore.
Starting point is 00:50:22 So he's just like anyone else at this point. Except 35. I think with quarterbacks, baseball closers, and hockey goalies are probably the three where the next guy, the second wife syndrome, steps in. Where if the next
Starting point is 00:50:38 guy is remotely good, but you didn't really like the last guy, you really love the second guy. Isn't this great? Oh man, we just went on vacation. We didn't really like the last guy. You really love the second. Isn't this great? Oh man, we just went on vacation. We didn't fight once. She's so nice. I just had a great time.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And that, that feels like this Gino Smith thing. I think the Seahawks fans are delighted that Russell Wilson is gone. Um, last one for watchables chiefs, 49ers. That's it. We're done with watchables.
Starting point is 00:51:02 It's so fun. I don't even love this game. It's like that. It's not like a barrel laughs to watch 49ers. This's it. We're done with watchables. It's so funny. Yeah, and I'm not even, I don't even love this game. It's like not, it's not like a barrel of laughs to watch 49ers. This is in San Francisco. I think the Chiefs are going to be favored. I have the Chiefs by two and a half. Oh, I hit, I hit this exactly. Three, full three, Kansas City
Starting point is 00:51:17 over San Francisco. Man. I gotta say, the Troy Lance injury. Troy? Is he Troy? And Trey. And Trey Lance.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Trey Aikman. Trey Aikman was talking about. Now, the Trey Lance, it just would have been more fun if Trey Lance was their quarterback the last six weeks. I would have watched more 49ers. But Jimmy G,
Starting point is 00:51:41 you're like, I don't need to watch. Well, their defense, look, it's the same thing. If the Cowboys defense lost their top three or even Parsons for one quarter, they'd be in trouble too. So I think that's what we're seeing.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Plus, they went east twice in a row. They're going to lose one of those probably. Yeah. They might steal this San Francisco. Fairly watchable as they got five. First one is your team. I assume Dak comes back Next week Yeah I think so
Starting point is 00:52:07 Against Detroit I think a lot of people Will be putting the Cowboys In teases and parlays Lions coming off A humiliating 29-0 loss
Starting point is 00:52:17 I kind of like the Lions In this game Well they're off a bye too Off a bye Little kitchen sinkish They're 1-4 1-5 I kind of like the Lions in this game. Well, they're off a bye, too. Off a bye. Little kitchen sink-ish. They're 1-4. 1-5 is probably a cross-off.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Yeah. You know what Dan Campbell's record is off a bye? It's like 33-2. No, I don't know. It's a road one. I have the Cowboys by 7.5. That's exactly what I had. So you can't get off me Simmons.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I had, it's seven. Okay. I like the lines. Yeah. I mean, like, like I said to you,
Starting point is 00:52:54 four and two is great. If you take care of business against the lions and bears going into the buy, but this game scares me a little bit. Next week, I'm going to tape the NBC halftime show and do a usage rate and time for each person, how long they talked. I think today was a new record. I think everybody talked for like eight seconds
Starting point is 00:53:14 on the, on the show today. I don't, the halftime shows, somehow they're getting with the NBC show tonight. Yeah. They, they try to jam in all these people into like three minutes.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Oh, there's too many people too many people and there's like no time it would be like if we had nine other people on this podcast right now and we just had to zoom around for their cut and then go to a commercial I'm taping next week next game Titans Colts
Starting point is 00:53:40 the Colts just play other AFC South teams every week I guess Titans coming off a bye Colts. The Colts just play other AFC South teams every week, I guess. Titans coming off a bye. Colts are just, how the Colts are 3-2-1, I couldn't possibly tell you. I know, it's crazy. They almost lost to Denver. They weren't scoring at all. Denver could have put them away. Taylor's out. The third string running back is better than Taylor. I don't know how it's happening. Probably won some leagues. I have Titans by three in this game.
Starting point is 00:54:08 You're going to get this one. I said, I said, what did I say? I said, I say, pick them. Oh, you get this.
Starting point is 00:54:15 It's two and a half. Yeah. Okay. I had one and a half. Sorry. Yeah, you got it. Pick them.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I had one and a half. It's a, nah. I still wait. Did they play? Yeah, you win this one. You throw whatever line you them. I have one and a half. I still win. Wait, did they play? Yeah, you win this one. You throw whatever line you want. I won.
Starting point is 00:54:28 The Titans won this game in... Yeah, they won 24-17. Two weeks ago. Oh, all right. Another fairly watchables. A team that I have lost money on three weeks in a row. I might have to just keep going until I win. The Jacksonville Jaguars at home
Starting point is 00:54:44 against the New York football giants, five and one. Our beloved friend Brad had a Giants win, had the Yankees stave off elimination, and his favorite college team, Tennessee, beats Alabama all in the span of 24 hours. My question is, is he still alive? Did it kill him?
Starting point is 00:55:06 Have we heard from Brad? Well, it's funny you should say that because he threatened to pay for lunch. He wanted to get ribs at Corolla's Warehouse and he wanted a very special place that didn't deliver to Corolla's Warehouse. So he's like, I want to pay for lunch for everyone. And I was like, just, you know, why don't we get here and you'll buy lunch? No, no, no. I have to have it delivered to my house and then come to the warehouse. I said, you have trouble transporting yourself, let alone yourself, plus food. This isn't going to work. He's like, no, let's do it my way. 1130.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I'm like, hey, where are you? We're thinking about lunch. He's like, yeah, the guy never called me back. The guy, you order food. The guy never called me back. Does that factor in at all? I was like, please get here. He's like, all right, I want to pay for lunch anyway. I was like, good. I'll order food. The guy never called me back. Does that factor in at all? I was like, please get here. He's like, all right, I want to pay for lunch anyway.
Starting point is 00:55:48 I was like, good, I'll order it. You could pay me back. He's like, okay, order a lot. I order a feast for 12 people. There's three of us or four of us plus Brad is coming. Guess who doesn't show up? Brad? Yeah, yeah, Brad.
Starting point is 00:56:02 I'm on a hook for like $260 lunch. He's the best. Jesus. So there you go. Is he alive? I don't know. I don't know how to answer that. Maybe that.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Yeah. Well, the Giants. I'm off by six points in this spread. So you're going to get this unless you're off by six. Interesting. I had the Jags by two and a half. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:23 You're right. I mean, it's the Jags by two and a half. Really? Yeah. You're right. I mean, it's the Jags by three. Why is not the five and one Giants favorite over the two and four Jags? Because the analytics like the Jags. I don't know. These Jags, they're in every game. They've fucked up three games in a row, but they just, they have a knack for just shooting themselves in the foot. Why do we not see, I don't know if you even knew this, that the Jaguars are 0-13 in division on the road?
Starting point is 00:56:52 Is that true? 0 for their last 13. Yeah, that one is actually true. I did get, I was super suspicious that that line never moved. I didn't understand why they weren't favored against the Colts without Taylor. And the line just stayed at one and a half. And it was like a classic trap. There's a couple sites that I
Starting point is 00:57:09 never really looked at this before, but I did this week and now I'm kind of addicted where you can see the money, where the money goes for the different bets. There were two overs today and I couldn't believe it. One was the Casey
Starting point is 00:57:27 Bills game. And I think it ended like 88% of the money was on the over in that game. On this one side I went to. And then the other one was the Cardinals Seahawks game. And that was like 80-81%, something like that. Both of those went way under for the over.
Starting point is 00:57:50 And the unders are crushing. So now I'm just wondering, do you just look at these sites and anytime there's 80% and up on an over and under, you just go the opposite way because the public loses all the time? I wish I had the tweet,
Starting point is 00:58:01 but there was something where 54% or more of the money is on something that it's losing at an astounding rate. I remember that tweet. It was like, that's what made me start do this. It was like 33 and 17 when the money was 55% and up. Yeah, why don't we do that instead of all this opinion
Starting point is 00:58:18 betting? By the way, did you see Saquon go down? That killed an over too. That game's going over if he doesn't slide at the three. Oh yeah, he slid it. Yep. Ravens are home for the Browns. This is at least a fairly watchable, even though we don't know what the hell's going on with the Browns. The body
Starting point is 00:58:34 language on their receivers was not great in this game. The Brissette, I think, is wearing out his welcome. Deshaun is still six weeks away from comeback. Well, this was supposed to be the game he came back, right? With the initial suspension. The Ravens.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Yeah. I got Ravens by six and a half. We're going to split it. I said five and a half. It's six. Two, three, four, five. You call it out. Three, six. I think it's six, six. Okay. Last fairly watchable is Broncos, Jets.
Starting point is 00:59:05 You could have argued this actually might have been a watchable just because the Broncos are kind of a comedy watchable, not a fun football watchable. But I was surprised where I landed on this. Broncos by three. Yeah, you got it exactly. I said Broncos two. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Still, four and two against 2-3. At this point, you can look at the records a little bit. The Broncos could be 2-4 after tomorrow. Yeah, right. On a short week, I think the Jets have the better Wilson. I really do. I don't think they're related. Well, now they're saying Russell Wilson is hurt.
Starting point is 00:59:45 He's playing with some injured shoulder that he played with during the game. It's like, well, if he was hurt, why did you go for it on fourth and one and a half, throw a slant pass with him? Why didn't you kick the field goal?
Starting point is 00:59:54 Your quarterback's hurt. That makes it even dumber. I didn't think it was possible for you to be dumber, Nat Hackett, but your quarterback was hurt the whole game. Yeah. For it on fourth and two. Well,
Starting point is 01:00:04 that's so funny you say that because people like you and I are so, so excited to blame the whole Broncos demise on Nat Hackett, right? Or Nate Hackett, whatever. And then he says something stupid like, he has to disclose that Wilson's hurt. It's like, oh, we're going to split the blame with you and Russ. Now you're taking it back? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:25 He's like, there's not two morons here. I'm the only moron. Poop fact of three games. First one is Packers-Washington. I just don't want to watch Washington if I can, but I do like Brian Robinson. I think he's very unconventional for a running back, right? He almost seems like a kick returner as a running back.
Starting point is 01:00:46 The way he carries the ball in the wrong hand. He's tall and lanky. He's like a little Eric Dickerson. Like, yeah, yeah. Very unusual. This is in Washington,
Starting point is 01:00:57 which, you know, they had odds for him to win comeback player of the year because he got shot because he got shot. He was really like one of the top three a few weeks ago, but then they took him out because a rookie can't win it. He's a rookie. They took him out of all the run. He can't come back
Starting point is 01:01:12 from your first season. Right. He came back from college. This is in Washington, which I think really helps the Packers because I think on the East Coast, all the Packer fans come out. I'm bumping this. I got Packers by seven. Do we tie? I said four. It's five and a half. I got Packers by seven. Do we tie? I said four. It's five and a half.
Starting point is 01:01:27 We were both off by a point. We tied. Really? The Packers should lay points to anybody? Who do they need to lose to? They lost to the Jets and Giants. Not taking Washington. I bet on Washington on Thursday night, I parlayed
Starting point is 01:01:44 them and the Pats. Yeah, so you won. Well, they're up five. They're up five. And I was like, I don't want to bet on this stupid Thursday night game. Two shitty teams Thursday night. This is a stay away.
Starting point is 01:01:54 And then by 4.30, I'm like, eh, Washington and the Pats, why not? So Rivera, it's fourth down on the 31. They're up five. There's like a minute and a half left. And Rivera's like, I'm going to try a 48-yarder to go up eight. And if I miss, Chicago hits the ball at the 40.
Starting point is 01:02:16 And they can touchdown wins it. This is really risky. Fuck it. I'm going to try it with my field goal kicker who's not even very good. And of course, he missed it. And it's like a slow motion car crash. These coaches, they invent new ways to be dumb. And in this one, it's just like,
Starting point is 01:02:33 punt the ball, make the Bears go 90 yards. Fields couldn't go 90 yards if you gave them an hour and a half. There's no way. And of course they miss. But anyway, they barely escaped. But I was so mad. I was like, why did I bet on this? Do you want to see like when I die or you can do this,
Starting point is 01:02:50 you should just pay like an analytics guy, like, uh, I don't know, the $5 million a year or whatever you could afford. And just, don't you want to know like what your record is career-wise with missed field goals? Like, do you think your field goals that you needed your guys to make, whether it's betting or on your team, went through at a lower rate, much lower rate than the average? Because I feel that way about myself. Yeah, I lost in week one. The Browns guy hit a 59-yarder,
Starting point is 01:03:14 and I don't think he's come close to anything like that ever since. Cade York? Yeah. Cade York, Browns have themselves a field goal kicker. No, actually, they really don't. Right. Yeah. Next poop-fecta game is Bucks-Panthers.
Starting point is 01:03:27 The Panthers are just on permanent poop-fecta watch, and it feels like they'll waive Robbie Anderson. They'll probably trade DJ Moore. They'll try to trade McCaffrey. And if they're smart, they would trade Brian Burns for first. I was looking at the Rams tackling. The Rams were like, they put a good lick on McCaffrey today. And I was thinking, McVay might be like, hey, take it easy on him.
Starting point is 01:03:51 He might be on our roster Wednesday. Right? Why not? Well, I'm hoping the Pats trade Aguilar and Damian Harris to the Rams for like 2028 first-round pick or something. Yeah. Could see them doing that. I had the Bucks by eight over the Panthers.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Yeah, I was bad on this. I said seven. It's 10. 10. That's stupid. Well, they're far and away, and we haven't done this where we eliminate teams from the playoffs,
Starting point is 01:04:17 but Carolina's out, right? Are we going to do that this year? Because Carolina's out. I had the cross-offs. You want to do that now? I just had inside information on this game. Brady's,
Starting point is 01:04:27 Brady's not practicing on Friday night because he's going to Shia LaBeouf's brother's bar mitzvah. It's in Kansas City. Is that right?
Starting point is 01:04:37 Private jet, yeah. But he's going to be, he's going to be in there. Brady flies to New York on a Friday night. This guy, this guy used to be this incredible team guy. What happened to this? He's yelling to be in Tampa. Brady flies to New York on a Friday night. This guy used to be this incredible team guy. What happened to this? He's yelling at teammates.
Starting point is 01:04:49 He does whatever the fuck he wants. This is exactly who he wasn't on the Patriots for like 20 years. No, he was. He was a team guy. You didn't want to see it. He was just doing it on the sly. He didn't let Belichick know. It just wasn't as public about it.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Cross off teams. Yeah. Are we crossing these teams off for 2022? Usually we do six, but now there's so many playoff teams. Maybe we just need to get to four. Carolina, cross-off? For sure, the far and away the worst. I would have put them right there with the Steelers,
Starting point is 01:05:19 but now they're at the bottom alone. Chicago? Yeah. Yeah. I'd cross them off too.. Chicago? Yeah. Yeah. I'd cross them up too. Four or five wins. Yep. The Washington Daniels-Snyders?
Starting point is 01:05:31 Only because that division's really solid now. Yeah. Yeah. I think they're a cross off. And then if we had to get to a fourth, the choices are Detroit, Pittsburgh, or Houston. No. I feel good about crossing off any of them, right?
Starting point is 01:05:46 We don't have to do that yet. We don't have to do that. That's it? So it's just those three? Yeah. That's fine. That's low. And it's funny.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Who's the other one-win team? Like Vegas is one and four, but you're not crossing them off, right? Not crossing them off. Yeah. They're actually talented. Yeah. Okay. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Speaking of Vegas, they are home for the Texans as our last poop-fecta game. And I have the Raiders laying seven points to the Texans. Yeah, you're going to beat me this week. You got it exactly. I said six. This is the cross-off bowl? I mean, probably we could maybe
Starting point is 01:06:16 get rid of one of them after this. Yeah, I think that's fair. One, three, and one against one and four. Cross-off bowl. Okay. Yep. Sunday night is kind of a lousy one. Dolphins-Steelers. We should mention, I know it's sour grapes. out ball. Okay. Yep. Sunday night is a, it's kind of a lousy one. Dolphin Steelers.
Starting point is 01:06:26 We should mention, I know it's sour grapes. I was really mad. The Bucks stuck it right up my yin yang today, but incredible job by Tomlin. I mean,
Starting point is 01:06:37 Jesus Christ. Pickett looked, I thought, good. Pretty good. Their defense was missing everybody. It didn't matter. They're harassing Brady. I don't know. I thought good. Pretty good. Their defense was missing everybody. It didn't matter. They were harassing Brady.
Starting point is 01:06:46 I don't know. I thought that was... Well, they ran the clock out. Very well-coached game. It was very Brady-esque how they didn't give Tompa the ball back at the end. It was amazing.
Starting point is 01:06:55 It's like, all right, he's going to have one more drive, right? No, it never came. Yeah. It's kind of a semi-must-win game for them. So now they're playing Sunday night. They're on the road in Miami. I assume it's going to be Bridgewater. I don't think
Starting point is 01:07:06 we'll see Tua. You don't think we'll see Tua? I thought they said Tua's back for this. Did they say that officially? So that's going to be Sunday night. It's going to be a Tua concussion referendum for three hours. I'm surprised they're doing that. Yeah, Tua
Starting point is 01:07:22 out in concussion playing two weeks. He's out of concussion protocol. Okay, maybe we, Tua and out of concussion playing two weeks. He's out of concussion protocol. Okay, maybe we see Tua. I got Dolphins by five and a half over the stairs. That's what I had at six and a half. You're going to win this week. I beat you. Well, maybe though
Starting point is 01:07:39 is that a teaser game? We don't even talk about teaser games anymore, huh? Because I've lost the teaser every week. Yeah. But growing up or is my wallet growing out? Monday night, your 2023 AFC representatives for the Super Bowl in Glendale, Arizona. The New England Patriots. What's wrong with you?
Starting point is 01:08:02 Home for the Bears of Chicago. I'll tell you this. I think this line creeps up to nine by Monday. Wow. By Monday. Because I think people are going to be teasing the Pats. This is a Monday nighter. I'm going to say Pats by seven and a half.
Starting point is 01:08:20 You got it. You had a good week. What a strong finish for you. It is exactly seven and a half. I said seven. Yeah. What a strong finish for you. It is exactly 7.5. I said 7. Yeah, I think that goes to 9. 12 to 8, you win. This is going to be a tough
Starting point is 01:08:34 Justin Fields week. Oh, yeah. Belichick will be like, oh, cool. So you don't complete passes really. Okay, got it. And then that'll be it. I was going to say, what is his over-under for complete bad? Might be nine and a half this game. Just the way he rolls.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Let's take a break. I want to talk baseball and then we'll do Paracord. Alright, baseball playoffs. I watched a lot. I know you did too over the weekend. First of all, kudos to them because the best of three in the first weekend I thought was a good
Starting point is 01:09:08 idea. I think the playoffs this week were really fun. It's fun. It's basically the playoffs are just drunk. There's no rhyme or reason to it, but in a weird way, it's, I think, good for baseball. With that said, if you win 111 games
Starting point is 01:09:23 and the other team wins 89 and it's a best of five and you lose one of the first two and now you have to go on the road for your life
Starting point is 01:09:35 in game three and four in a fucking madhouse like that it just isn't enough of an advantage the inferior club has a better home home advantage
Starting point is 01:09:44 for some reason the fans seem to be those Philly fans are like I've never it hurts me to say that like that park seems so loud so loud like I honestly would you rather have 2-2-1 if you're the if you're the favorite would you rather have 2-2-1
Starting point is 01:09:59 or would you rather have we'll give you the first two games give us the last three at home I'd rather have the two we'll you the first two games. Give us the last three at home. I'd rather have the two. We'll take the three. It depends on how your pitchers are set up. But yeah, Garrett Cole on the road was pretty good tonight. So I think I might take your deal if I was like the Yankees or someone. It seems like if you're the one seed in either league,
Starting point is 01:10:22 maybe it's a best of five, but all the games are at home. That's the advantage. That's what you get for six months. We have this whole season and it has to be worth something. It can't just be worth, oh, cool, if there's a magical game five
Starting point is 01:10:39 in my best of five, that will be in my home stadium. That's not enough of advantage. And I don't care. I don't care about the Dodgers or the Padres. I'm just saying like as a fan of five, that will be in my home stadium. That's not enough of advantage. I don't care about the Dodgers or the Padres. I'm just saying as a fan of sports, this is a stupid system. Here's why you're right, because the first series was three games and they appreciated that line of logic for that, right? The Mets had all three games at home. So they had the first series, the inferior teams are on the road for 100%.
Starting point is 01:11:05 The second series where you get by teams, teams with over 100 wins only get 60% of their games at home. Doesn't make sense. It should either be best of seven or at least for the top seed. Being the best seed
Starting point is 01:11:20 should be worth something. Now, the NBA used to do it this way and it was super fun. They used to have the first round was best of five. to do it this way and it was super fun. They used to have the first round was best of five. It was the nineties. It was super fun. Cause if you, if you could steal one of the first two, you had the next game three and four at home and you really had a chance. And I remember like there was a couple of times where it hit. I remember there was one year it was Phoenix when they had Rex Chapman and all those guys against Seattle and they had it, they split the first two and it's like, oh my God, they're, and I used to
Starting point is 01:11:48 like Seattle anyway. It's like, oh my God, they're going to go back to Seattle. They're going to be able to actually upset the Suns because of this stupid system. And what did the NBA do? They changed it because you, why have this whole season to lead to this best of five where anything can happen? You don't want anything to happen in the playoffs. First of all, this is, congratulations, is by far the longest you've waited to insert an NBA reference. I mean, an hour and six minutes is a good job by you. Just phenomenal. But secondly, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:12:17 And everyone's going to say we're being snobs here about big market against small market. And believe me, I have executive friends friends in the major league baseball on the East coast who are ready to jump off the Throgs Neck bridge if it's Padres and Guardians in the World Series. But I'm not saying, facts are facts. Like this is, of course, I'm saying everyone should play. If they keep winning, they should advance.
Starting point is 01:12:41 They should keep playing. But it's not great for the sport if 412 wins between the Braves, Mets, Yankees, and Dodgers are out a week after the playoffs start, right? And there's three weeks left. It's not good. It's just too hairy, and it's just not enough of an advantage. And they have to fix it. Either go best of seven.
Starting point is 01:13:06 If, if the best possible outcome would be 150 games, regular season, and then just go best of five for, for the, you know, have more playoff games. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:17 It's fun, but it's more fun. I mean, it was super, I loved watching the Padres game on Saturday night. I really genuinely enjoyed it. I don't care who won the series. It just seems crazy to me that the Dodgers can win 22 more games than them,
Starting point is 01:13:30 that they beat the Padres 14 out of 19 times in the regular season. And then just because their bats go cold for two games, they have to go home. They're done. If that was the Red Sox, I would have gone fucking crazy. Honestly, I would have absolutely, I wouldn't have been able to do the podcast today. I'd be so upset. But it's also, and it's very exciting.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Look, there's nothing more. I've talked about this, how directors of baseball games in the playoffs should win Emmys. The way they create all the drama going to the fans and the players blowing on their hands because it's much colder. This game that's played the whole summer is all of a sudden now it's freezing and everyone's cold and the angry manager spitting sunflower seeds and there's no light moments. You don't see mascots anywhere dancing. It's really, really intense for four hours a night.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Or eight hours when the Mariners are in the scoreless 8-8 game. Yeah, exactly. But the thing that bums me out is it's different. It's vastly different from what we watch in the regular season in that these pitchers... I've been betting pitcher outs. I think Caesars has pitcher outs. You could bet under 17.5
Starting point is 01:14:35 outs for Cole. So if he doesn't go six innings, that's a good bet. And the Dodgers for sure is a good bet because Roberts pulls everyone long before they deserve to be pulled. Kershaw against Machado, well, all right, he's coming out. It's like, why?
Starting point is 01:14:52 It's the fourth inning. Well, it's a lefty. I have 70 relievers. It's a lefty-righty matchup. It's like, who cares? It's a lefty-righty matchup. This is Clayton Kershaw. Maybe just let's see.
Starting point is 01:15:02 The guy yesterday, Anderson, had what? A two-hitter and they pulled him Saturday night? No. It's too much. It doesn't resemble baseball. This goes to the aggressive analytics we talk about in the NFL. The Padres guy in game three against your team, who just was lights out.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Musgrove. Musgrove, yeah. He throws a one-hitter. But if Roberts was his manager, he would have yanked him in the sixth inning. Like, oh, I have a chance to do a lefty-righty matchup. First of all, in a game with those kind of stakes, if my pitcher is getting
Starting point is 01:15:28 everyone out, I'm keeping them in until there's a reason to get nervous. Of course. The Dodgers at least let me see a couple outs in the sixth before I'm bringing in all my relievers. It's not like they were stacked with relievers anyway. I thought it was a classic overthink.
Starting point is 01:15:43 I would not have taken him out. Nobody was hitting him. Sort of two fucking hitter. And if you're a Padres fan, you're like, oh, cool. You're going to take this guy out? Thank you. This is great. Please bring in relievers into this atmosphere. One of them's going to be scared. Yeah, you're not going for it on fourth and one Patrick Mahomes? Great.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Thank you. Bring in the punt team. And then the fucking Nationals who trade Soto. Yeah. And Bell. Again, I had no dog. I was actually kind of deep down rooting for the Padres
Starting point is 01:16:11 because I thought their crowd was really fun. There were some shirtless guys in the crowd, which I enjoyed. Just said there's like a festive atmosphere. It seemed like kind of crazy.
Starting point is 01:16:20 It was pouring rain or FLA. Super fun. But every time Soto was up, I just thought he was going to get hit. He's so fucking scary. And you think like, the Nationals had him. He's 25 and then they're like, well, let's turn him into seven
Starting point is 01:16:33 prospects. Awesome. Well, now you don't have Juan Soto anymore. Oh. You know, it's like the Red Sox. We don't have Mookie Betts anymore. Cool. We have Verdugo. Nice. Harper, Scherzer. The list goes on and on with that team. Who they scrapped
Starting point is 01:16:49 since the World Series. But yeah, Soto scares me. Opposite field. All those guys with opposite field power. Those lefties are terrifying. Well, fun. National League.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Really fun home crowds for Philly's Padres. Both of those fan bases brought it. I think the Mets would have brought it too. And then you go into the other one where it could be Cleveland at
Starting point is 01:17:11 Houston. I mean, nobody wants Houston. So I guess we have to root for Cleveland. Cleveland's a little frisky though. Do we want to root for Cleveland? Do we want or do we want... I'm not rooting. I root for the Astros over the Yankees. No, the Yankees are the...
Starting point is 01:17:27 I'm always rooting against the Yankees. Well, that's what I'm saying. It'll hurt Yankee fans more if Houston beats them, right? Won't it? No, it's worse if you lose a game five to fucking Cleveland. Oh, you think so?
Starting point is 01:17:35 Oh, yeah. That's... You blow game five to the Guardians? So where's your money right now? I mean, I'm holding an Astros 10-1 ticket, so I'm excited about that they're plus 140 to win it all
Starting point is 01:17:49 Phillies are only plus 340 see here's where the Lions get screwy but you can get the Yanks at 5-1 and the Padres at 320 I like the Phillies batting order just guys who have professional at-bats even Schwarber it's not like Schwarber lights out in the playoffs so far,
Starting point is 01:18:05 but you just know it's going to be like seven, eight pitches. There's just like a certain rhythm to all those guys. Like they bleed counts. I just like watching it.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Yeah. Good small ball. Yeah. What are the matchups tomorrow? They announced the pitchers. I think it's Talion and Civelli. So it's not the Yankees
Starting point is 01:18:25 minus 156. Yeah, exactly. See, I would bet the Guardians because that's basically a bet against Aaron Boone. Right. And it's plus 132. Yeah, take the rich plus money.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Yeah, I don't. Just fix the thing. Fix the best of five. That's stupid. It should be called the Dodger rule, whatever. Whatever they have to do for the Mets to get in. I don't know. fix the thing. Fix the best of five. That's stupid. It should be called the Dodger rule, whatever. Whatever they have to do for the Mets to get in. I don't know. Good college football this weekend, too.
Starting point is 01:18:49 A little Tennessee upset. I'm excited that you watched. That was great. Saturday was insane. There was good boxing, too. You see Wilder? You see Shields? The woman fight?
Starting point is 01:18:59 There's a lot of good stuff. Well, the Wilder knockout, it really kind of felt like a dive. I was like slow-moing it, trying to figure out how we'd knock this guy unconscious, falling backwards with like... But I guess he has that much power. I don't know. I thought it was weird.
Starting point is 01:19:15 It was a left. Because I looked for it too. Was it a left? It was like a left cross? I was trying to figure out what it was. It was like the clay list and punch. Right. I didn't understand how the guy was on his back,
Starting point is 01:19:28 like seeing birds flying around him. It was like, I couldn't even see how he hit him. I think the boxing in 23 is going to be good. We got some good big money fights coming. All right, let's do parent corner. Today's parent corner is brought to you by CarMax. CarMax makes shopping for a car really, really, really easy because you can shop in your terms with no pressure.
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Starting point is 01:20:05 So the parent corner is not going to involve my kids, but involves my mother to me. And that's a child-parent relationship if you're scoring at home. My mother texted me the other day. It's Thursday. It's right before the game, like the hour before the Thursday game.
Starting point is 01:20:20 I'm getting all my bets and trying to narrow it from 25 to 12 because I need to have as much action on the game as possible. And then I get from my mother, she sends me a text that says, because I love you, I have to share. And then it's this video, which I didn't watch. It's a YouTube video. And it says, diabetes and erectile dysfunction, healing the body with the right foods. Part one. Part one. So I guess there's a part two if I enjoy this enough. This is what she's sending me. She became a vegan at age 71.
Starting point is 01:20:51 She's 76. And from then on, she's been a complete pain in the ass. Now, raised us on salty meats, but you couldn't have enough of them. She's Italian. Italian. Yeah. She's actually Jewish, but might as well be Italian. Yes. But might as well be Italian Yes but might as well be Married in Italian Right my Italian father's mother taught her how to cook Everything was Italian cooking And then boom I don't know what she
Starting point is 01:21:14 On Facebook she saw all these plant based this And that God bless you if that's your thing But it's not mine and forever And I tell her I was like look When I'm 71 if I'm lucky enough to make it I'll do this too. Give me 20 more years. Can you imagine all this erectile dysfunction thing? She sends me a grown man. I have to sit through this. And so I say to my wife, I'm like, listen, you got to text her and say that Sal has no problem in that department at all.
Starting point is 01:21:40 With diabetes or ED. Yes, of course ED ha ha ha he is and you know be very graphic but she's like no I'm not doing that I'm like please do that
Starting point is 01:21:50 so but she won't but anyway mom please stop sending me this I'm not watching this video why did she send you that I don't understand that at all
Starting point is 01:21:58 she thinks I'm going to get diabetes if I keep eating yeah although I will say right before Halloween is a good time to send this if you're going to send it at all. I'm going to put down 75 mini Twixes in
Starting point is 01:22:09 an hour. My mom doesn't send me clips. She just sends me texts like today she texted me about the Watcher. It was really, really good. Very well done. The scariest part was Mia Farrow's face. Is that a Jeff Ross text?
Starting point is 01:22:24 It felt like it. Well, there you go. Tell me a Pharaoh's face. My parent corner was I sent my daughter back to Boston on Thursday by herself. Little test
Starting point is 01:22:44 because she's going to school there next year. She flew. We dropped her off. Did the whole thing. Boarded the plane by herself. Landed. My dad's like, I'm going to pick her up. I'm like, no. My dad and I actually got in a fight about it because he's like, just tell me when it is.
Starting point is 01:23:00 I'm like, Dad, I want her to figure this out. This is really important. She's going to be in college next year. Let her I want her to figure this out. This is really important. She's going to be in college next year. Let her figure out how to do this. So she figured out how to get from the airport to my dad's place, spent the whole weekend there. And then last night, she's out with the soccer team where she's going to play for next year. And they're celebrating win.
Starting point is 01:23:26 And she goes out and she texts me and she's like, I think I'm going to, she had like a 11 o'clock fight the next day. She's like, I think I'm going to sleep over here and then go back to grandpa's in the morning. Where's here? Sleep over where? At the college place. So I'm thinking like, knowing my history with my daughter, who's, you know, late pretty occasionally and, pretty occasionally and she's a kid. And my wife and I are like, this is a disaster. She's going to miss the plane. There's no way. She's going to set her alarm, wake up at 7.45, go to my dad's place, pack, and then somehow get her ass to the plane and get there in time. There's no way. 0% chance. It wasn't even like a 5%. It's like, all right, let's let her
Starting point is 01:24:06 miss the plane. She'll learn a valuable lesson. Go to bed, wake up at, I don't know, like 6.50 because Murph wants to get fed. I'm like, oh, I wonder if I got a text from Zoe. Get a text. I'm at the airport waiting
Starting point is 01:24:22 aboard. Really great night last night. Good for you. I'm thinking, airport waiting aboard really great night last night. I'm thinking, she fucking did it. Got her ass to Boston, slept in some place and came back and packed and got the whole thing. I was just really impressed. I feel like
Starting point is 01:24:38 she passed some invisible test. Would you trust Archie to go cross-country without any help and figure out everything and fly you? No, I don't think I would. I don't think he may. I think it's a coin flip that he makes it back. This is what I was saying to my dad.
Starting point is 01:24:52 I was like, she's going to be in college in 10 months. She has to learn how to, like, it's almost like throwing Kenny Pickett out there. You got to learn how to navigate the puck's defense. We're not going to know what a blitz is going to look like until you're under fire with one. So we did it. She landed. She came home at like 3.30 and was just like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Did it. That's great. Yeah. That's great. As long as you don't find out she stayed at Jason Tatum's house Saturday night, I think you're good. I'm not ruling that out. Well, she is an 18. I mean, that would be probably illegal. I'm sorry. I thought she're good. I'm not ruling that out. She is an 18. That would be probably illegal. I'm sorry. I thought she was 18. Terrible.
Starting point is 01:25:29 I was very proud of her. Good. Good job by you, Zoe. It's funny how fast they grow. I would say even a year ago, inconceivable she could have gone to Boston and back. Would she have been upset with herself or would she have been like, oh, whatever.
Starting point is 01:25:46 I'll take the next flight. What does it cost? Another $100 change or whatever. How do you think she would have been? I don't know. I would have made her navigate it. Maybe she really stepped it up. Good.
Starting point is 01:25:55 Would have made her navigate it. All right. That's it for Parent Corner. Today's Parent Corner is brought to you by CarMax. If you're looking for the perfect car for you, well, CarMax has thousands of quality certified cars for you to choose from. They spend hours replacing parts and detailing them to make your car feel like new. And then they give each one a final quality check. So shop at CarMax and get extra peace of mind when you buy your next car. Learn more at CarMax.com.
Starting point is 01:26:20 CarMax, car buying reimagined. All right, Sal. Also, I watched all seven episodes of The Watcher. How did you like it? It was watchable. They should have called it The Watchable. That's what I thought the joke was. Yeah. Wow. All right.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Maybe I'll watch. Well, that doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement, but I just got done with Dahmer. I got done with Dahmer. Oh, you did it. You did Dahmer. Yeah, I did Dahmer. You saw it too?
Starting point is 01:26:47 Oh, of course. Did you like it? I liked it. I thought it was two episodes too long, but I liked it. Yeah, there was some flimsy episodes in there towards the end. But yeah, I think I would have loved it
Starting point is 01:27:00 if it weren't a true story. If it were just made up, I would be like, oh my God, this is great. They did a fantastic job with this, but it is some freaky shit that that really went on. I just don't feel like I would fall for the, I just have some bad pork chops in the fridge. My fridge stopped working. Because the follow-up question is, well, why don't you take the pork chops out of the fridge, you fucking weirdo?
Starting point is 01:27:20 Yeah, right. Right? Nobody asked that. They're like, oh, bad pork chops. Yeah, that's a tough break. And then it's this overwhelming rotten stench. Yeah, definitely shouldn't have worked three times.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Yeah, every single person. I probably would have come over and helped eat the pork chops and then been disappointed. But yeah. Well, we got White Lotus coming. Are you going to watch it with just her? She was great, but I missed the manager. He was the best, wasn't he?
Starting point is 01:27:47 I trust the franchise. I think it's going to be good. I'm excited for it. What do you got to plug this week? We got the Extra Points Podcast Network. Get all your sports gambling needs there against the odds. Minus three. Megan Fun of Sports covering Glory Waverwired, Lemon Pepper Parlor. We have Terrell Davis
Starting point is 01:28:03 on, Brian Scalabrini, and we have our NIL scholarship recipient on later in the week. Oh, that's exciting. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to give a new one every week a few hundred bucks. See what happens. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:20 And I'm avoiding erectile dysfunction. That's the main focus of this week. All right, guys. Good job by you. Good job by you. All right. That's it for the podcast. Thanks to Kyle Creighton for producing as always.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Thanks to Steve Cerutti and Dylan Berkey as well. I will see you on this feed on Tuesday.

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