The Bill Simmons Podcast - Butler Saves Miami, Fantasy F.B. In Flux, The NFC Least & Quarter-Season MVP’s with The Cousin Sal

Episode Date: October 5, 2020

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss Jimmy Butler willing the Heat to a win over the Lakers in Game 3 of the NBA Finals. They also recap NFL Week 4, including the Cowboys' 49...-38 loss to the Browns, Panthers-Cardinals, Joe Burrow vs. “the spread,” Bills-Raiders, Giants-Rams, Tom Brady throwing five TDs in a win over the Chargers, Bears-Colts, and more before guessing the NFL lines for Week 5. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:06 right after our friends from Pearl Jam. All right, Cousin Salas here. Action-packed weekend. It started out with the president coming down with COVID. What? Yeah, late Thursday night. Yeah, I'm sorry to break the news to you. Had that going all weekend. Plus a bunch of people in his administration,
Starting point is 00:03:42 some other Republicans. So that's going on. The finals, the Lakers take a commanding 2-0 lead, and it just seems done. people in his administration, some other Republicans. So that's going on. The finals, the Lakers take a commanding 2-0 lead, and it just seems done. And the Heat are nine and a half point underdogs in an elimination game. Then we have all this football stuff, and it's like, wow, Pat's Chiefs is going to be great.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Cam gets COVID. So now it's like, oh, man, well, what happens to that game? Then somebody on the Saints supposedly gets COVID. Now we think that game's going to be canceled. We're on text threads trying to figure out what to do with our fantasy leagues. It feels like the world's ending. Somehow we made it to Sunday night
Starting point is 00:04:15 and a lot of stuff happened. But Sal, tumultuous weekend. You starting a fantasy league this year. It's extra, extra ass kicking to getting kicked out. Just you're on top of it. I have to hand it to you. And I'm stealing ideas from you. I'm like, extra ass kicking to getting kicked out. Just you're on top of it. I have to hand it to you and I'm stealing ideas from you. I'm like, oh yeah, that's true. People could just text you if they want the Kansas city or new England guy in, but start their backup and then we could switch it out. But, uh, yeah, I, uh, my hats go off to
Starting point is 00:04:39 you and try any fantasy football, um, kind of commissioner that's trying to run things. It's impossible. I like that. We start with fantasy football commission of commissioner that's trying to run things. It's impossible. I like that we start with fantasy football commissioners over the future of the free world. Oh, yeah. We have no idea how sick he is, what's going to happen. We have an idea. He's doing a victory lap in a motorcade. He's fine.
Starting point is 00:05:01 What do you mean we have no idea? Well, he was signing blank sheets of paper with a Sharpie. That's how you start. And then you get into it. With reflections that were like, that was pretty weird. That was a weird thing on social media. I do love, though, and I don't want to make it political, but I do love that there's a guy who famously doesn't like getting briefed. He doesn't like reading stuff. But now that he has COVID,
Starting point is 00:05:20 he's like a CPA during tax season doing work. Like, okay, I don't know if I'm buying this. I would have been more realistic if he was fixing his fantasy team lineup, trying to be like, oh my God, wait, what's going to happen with that New Orleans game? So I think all of us as football fans
Starting point is 00:05:36 were a little worried that this was going to be the snowball down the hill that was going to gain momentum. And then within three weeks, I went to some dark places as a fan thinking like 12 week season. What, you know, do you have like a Cardinal situation where one team ends up playing 12 games?
Starting point is 00:05:54 You realize like how kind of lucky we had at the first three weeks when it was kind of going well. Yeah. And you, you forget how easily the rug can get pulled out of it do you think we have a 16 game season i don't all right i i don't i first of all there's no rush right they've already talked about they could play the super bowl in march they're very precious with the super bowl obviously usually they rent hotel rooms out months in advance and everything so this year's super
Starting point is 00:06:23 bowl may not be as big as they just might have to bite it, right? It might just have to be the last game of the season, in which case they could have it in March. And if that's the case, maybe they do have 16 games. I still don't think they get there. I think this is too tough. And people are like, oh, leave it alone. Baseball, Cardinals and Marlins had only played three games after, you know, four weeks and they came back. It's different. These teams travel like two and a half, three times as much personnel. The season is twice as long.
Starting point is 00:06:50 So already you're at like, you know, like eight X at a disadvantage of what, what, if you want to compare it to baseball, I just don't like it. I hate, I said, it's like, I wake up every morning and I see like, I have 18 texts cause we're on the West West coast. I'm like, this is going to be shitty. It's going to be shitty news so um well you think like the mistake probably every decision they made to get this schedule going seemed geared around when they announced the schedule on ESPN yeah right right look at this and then week eight we got this coming and
Starting point is 00:07:19 it was like maybe not the year to do that. Maybe this was the year that after eight weeks, we just put in a bye week for everybody to buy a buffer in case there were any COVID games that we had to reschedule, whatever. Maybe it should have been like a 19-week regular season. And you figure, all right, if we use all of it, great. If not, we'll move the playoffs up, but let's be a little less regimented. Now it's like the Pats and Chiefs playing tomorrow night. We think we're taping this Sunday night, almost nine o'clock Pacific time. But even that's a little weird. Now the Chiefs, now they have one less day. They're waiting on the Pats. The Pats are
Starting point is 00:07:57 trying to find out. They're supposed to be preparing for an opponent. They're trying to find out if anyone else got infected. And it just seems like it would have been easier to just be like, yeah, let's nudge this one to the built-in bye week we had after week eight, and we're good. The Pats are taking two flights, one where the people who were around the guy who was infected and the one where people were around Cam, the other where they weren't.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I don't know that you could bet on which flight's going to land. We have to get on that. There must be a teaser in there somewhere. But I think the traveling is the big thing, right? So last Friday, Atlanta was home in that miserable game they blew. What was the last game they blew? Was it to Chicago? I can't even remember the last one.
Starting point is 00:08:40 It was Dallas, then Chicago. Dallas, then Chicago. So last week was Chicago. They play Chicago. That Terrell test positive on Friday and they go and they play because traveling is the big thing. So what's the answer? Do they travel earlier in the week?
Starting point is 00:08:55 All these teams to, to, to get one test ahead of it. I don't know. I'm a child. So whatever the NFL decides, I have like an adverse reaction. I'm like, that's wrong, but I have no solution. Like I really don't, I don't know. Well, they've spent the last 10 plus years of the Goodell era eroding our trust in every decision they make.
Starting point is 00:09:13 That's another issue. I literally have no faith in any decision they're going to make. I think they've been pretty lucky. It's gone okay in college, right? For the most part. They're letting kids play. I mean, they're not letting kids play with the virus, but you'll see 10 guys on a team test positive. And then I don't know. Next, next thing you know, most of the team is on the field. Just fit. It just really feels
Starting point is 00:09:34 like everything is unraveled. I hate it. I know. I looked at October. I'm like, do we make it through October and so many facets of life? I'm not sure that we do, but, uh, yeah, it's a bummer. I don't know. I don't know. You know, like you don't want the fantasy leagues falling apart. I keep going back to fantasy, but I feel like if we can't figure that out,
Starting point is 00:09:53 it makes it even worse. Everything's going to unravel if we don't have fantasy. Yeah. I, I hit a point after the Lakers won that second game. Yeah. And then the camp thing happened and you start the, the football schedule seems flimsy.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And it just, there was this black hole staring at us where it was like the NBA could have been done on Tuesday. The Lakers swept. Football is in complete flux. Right, I know. And now we're back to where we were in May, you know, doing podcasts about, you know, rank the Rocky movies and any sort of evergreen content we could possibly do. You know, it was so much fun to have all this stuff going on
Starting point is 00:10:31 because we didn't have to think about all the serious stuff as much, you know? And now the serious stuff is just staring at all of us again. Not that it wasn't before, but at least we had distractions. Yeah, and, you know, I don't know. I saw something where a lot of coaches around the league are saying that we should shut down for two weeks and then regroup and cancel games and then make a different schedule.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I'm like, the owners are going to say, screw you. We're weeks away from putting fans in. Some teams already have fans in the stands. Some teams have a deal to up it to like 30%, 40% by the end of October. They want to, some teams have a deal to up it to like 30, 40% by the end of October. They're not canceling games. This is, we're kind of, we're not going to be
Starting point is 00:11:08 any better off four weeks from now than we are now. So. This has happened a few times the last few months. Happened with Trump Thursday night. Happened with the Cam News where I'm like either on the phone
Starting point is 00:11:22 or I'm in another room and I just hear my phone start to beep. Yeah. And it's just like, oh, no. What happened? Normally when that happens, it's stupid stuff with one of our friends, right?
Starting point is 00:11:34 Sure about Daniel, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, this is real stuff. You wake up to Cam Newton things and we're worrying about his health. Hopefully he's okay. Right. Yeah, this is... Everyone keeps. Right. Yeah. This is, uh,
Starting point is 00:11:46 everyone keeps saying 2020. Oh my God. It's so insane. But I, I just feel like we're going to look back at this 20 years from now and be like, God, remember that year?
Starting point is 00:11:55 I can't, I, how did we, how did we do that? How did all of us do that? I would go to birthday parties with mass on. I, my buddy,
Starting point is 00:12:04 a buddy of mine in Massachusetts was saying he was at his son's soccer game today. They were playing soccer with masks on. Wow. They're like 12-year-olds. It's like, really? This is- This is what life is like. We're just used to it. We just kind of adapt and go. Before we talk about the football, this is a pretty interesting week four. We got to talk about the NBA finals. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I didn't know. I thought you bet. I thought you bet the heat. I know you have the heat for the series, and I have the Lakers for the series. I thought it was over. I thought you bet them tonight. I thought you had the heat.
Starting point is 00:12:37 No. When they ruled out Adebayo and Dragic, I was like, well, I'm just going to throw the Lakers in some parlays. Obviously, they're going to sweep. I didn't realize Jimmy Butler was going to out LeBron LeBron. He played
Starting point is 00:12:53 like an old school LeBron on his second Cleveland tour when he would go against the Warriors by himself like game one, 2018. A couple of those 2015 finals games where it's just like, all right, I guess it's just me. I'll I'll I'm I'm get out of my back guys. I got this. Right. And he did it. I mean, it was honestly one of the great finals games
Starting point is 00:13:13 that I think if you remove the five or six, seven greatest players of all time, and you go to that next level of like, you know, James Worthy, Game 7, 1988, that kind of level of guy, it's way up there. I mean, really, like to stave off the sweep, I didn't like the Lakers body language at all. You know, we still think they're going to win the series, but he really haymakered them and he kind of out-alphaed them. And I was just shocked the entire time. I kept waiting for, you know, the Lakers were hanging around.
Starting point is 00:13:43 They had like 10 turnovers in the first quarter and a half or something. I'm like, all right, hey, how are they only down six? It just seemed like one of those games.
Starting point is 00:13:50 And then they finally tied it. And then Butler just kind of took over again. And then all of a sudden they were up six. LeBron's 30 feet from the basket letting like Markeith Morris
Starting point is 00:14:00 and Kuzma shoot. It's terrible. It was bizarre. Davis was in a coma the whole game and then all of a sudden it's 2-1 was bizarre. Davis was in a coma the whole game. And then all of a sudden it's two one. What did you think? Do you watch it?
Starting point is 00:14:08 Yeah, I watched it. Of course I had it on the screen. First of all, odds wise, Butler was 10 to one to be the high scorer tonight. He was 40 to one to have a triple double. That's pretty phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:14:19 40 to one. And he had to do all that stuff kind of to win. And let's be honest. The refs had to put a that stuff kind of to win. And let's be honest, the refs had to put AD in foul trouble early. They last game, game two, they did what they could. Miami had 31 free throws made to the Lakers 10, but it didn't matter because the offensive boards were there all night for the Lakers. I actually thought that was a well-officiated game.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I got to say, I thought this one, AD got some stupid touch fouls, but Bam got two touch fouls in game one that I thought turned that game around. Your boy Scott Foster had it even. It was the only way it was going to happen. They had to get him in foul trouble. I mean, I feel like we're watching professional wrestling after a while, a little, but I don't want to
Starting point is 00:15:01 take anything away from Jimmy Butler. He's fun to root for. He was great. The Lakers did look out of little, but I don't want to take anything away from Jimmy Butler. He's fun to root for. He was great. The Lakers did look out of sorts, but I don't... Well, yeah, beyond the foul trouble, 19 turnovers, Davis had five, LeBron had eight. LeBron had, you know, he had 25,
Starting point is 00:15:18 10, and eight, but it was not, did not look that good watching it. Right. And if anything, could have had even a couple more fouls and things like that. I thought, I actually thought Mark Jackson called it. He if anything, could have had even a couple more fouls and things like that. I thought, I actually thought Mark Jackson called it. He was like,
Starting point is 00:15:28 they're not playing hard enough. Yeah. And I felt that way watching it. I mean, I think when your, your, your points in the paint
Starting point is 00:15:35 are such a disparity versus in game two, like you may feel like you don't have to try as hard. You know, you just kind of own them inside. And I think that's what happened early on, but just the same.
Starting point is 00:15:46 They were down 12. They were down 14 and came. But they had the lead in the fourth quarter, the Lakers, right? Yeah, they did. They took a two-point lead. Butler said after the game, they were like, what's the difference? He's like, we had to rebound. The rebounding, they got out-rebounded by six,
Starting point is 00:16:00 but the game two, it was like 200. Yeah, they'll take six. They did that, And I thought they figured out what's funny is I thought Miami could have played better because Robinson was three for 10 from three and hero was two for seven and pretty much and Crowder was two for eight. So those three guys together were seven for 25. Pretty much all of those shots were wide open because the Lakers weren't, you know, playing as hard as they were in game two. But there, there's a version of this game where the heat went by like 25.
Starting point is 00:16:27 They were actually making shots, but I thought they figured out a couple of things with Butler that the Lakers couldn't adjust to. They were basically doing the LeBron trick where whoever was on Butler, he would get the screen, get the switch and the guy he would want. They'd put the three guys on the other side of the court. And then he was, he was kind of doing this little pseudo old school one-on-one stuff. He didn't make a three in that game. He didn't take a three, right? 40 points with no threes.
Starting point is 00:16:52 He's six foot six. That's the most impressive stat out of all. Oh my God. I, that was one of the best games I've, I've seen. An old school beatdown. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Yeah. It's an old school beatdown. That's what it was. It wasn't Steph Curry, like doing his thing behind gets hot from behind the arc. He just started playing. Yeah. It's an old school beatdown. That's what it was. It wasn't Steph Curry, like doing his thing behind gets hot from behind the arc. He just, he hit from everywhere and really just took it to him. It's interesting because all three games have been like kind of very different. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:13 So, yeah, I don't know. How do you predict game four? Well, what do you, I know what the line is. You want to guess the line? It was 10 tonight. It shouldn't be lower. Well, we don't know if Bam's coming back though. They have a line. Yeah. We don't know. Bam's coming back, though. They have a line.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Yeah, we don't know. I would say Lakers eight and a half. Yeah, seven and a half. I thought it'd be a little higher. 219 and a half minus 330 for the game for the Lakers. And now the favored result is Lakers to win four games to one at minus 150. It's funny. So Bam
Starting point is 00:17:43 Olenek and Leonard play 44 minutes. They score 24 points, eight rebounds, and they go eight for 12. I mean, you don't get any of the defense
Starting point is 00:17:57 that Bam gives you, but they were able to get by offensively with those guys and defensively, just they're switching, just playing harder. I thought they were going to do this in game two. I told you in-house, I did a little
Starting point is 00:18:09 heat money line parlay with the over. I think they're coming out and shooting a million threes and it was one and ten, I think, or one and nine, so it was plus 900. I was like, there's a version where they... And it was actually what ended up happening in this game. But this is what I mean.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Like every game is different. What are the Lakers bench points? Then they have, weren't half their points on the bench or a little less. In this game? Yeah, 40 something. Am I wrong about that? Well, that's the part,
Starting point is 00:18:35 that's the part that frustrates you if you're the Lakers because you have Morris and Kuzma both have 19 off the bench. And if you think like, if you just say that before the game, like you're getting 38 points from Morris and Kuzma. Game's over. bench. And if you think like, if you just say that before the game, like you're getting 38 points for Morris and Kuzma. Game's over. Oh my God, we went by 20. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:49 But Davis no-showed. And the crazy thing about Davis was after game two, I was on a couple of text threads with House, my friend Hershey, trying to, I was like, I'm going to redo the Pantheon and the Pyramid after, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:02 I do it every year. I make the list and I'm like, I think AD might be like, I think he's in the top 40 now. Like he's completely dominant. He's you look at like these all time greats and he is the best two way player in the league. He's been first team all NBA four times.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Like this is going to be his moment. You won't do it now. You're not doing it now. He's he's he has, he was 26 today, and it was worse than that. I thought he looked asleep. Yeah. I mean, for him to have five rebounds in a game against this Heat team is unconscionable.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Well, but he's playing. It's a delicate play. He was in foul trouble, right? Of course you're going to end up with a minus. I don't know. I guess. He only finished the game with four fouls. They kind of unlocked what to do when Howard was out there,
Starting point is 00:19:46 which I think is a problem for Miami going forward. And if they can get out of bio back, even if he's 80%, it just gives them flexibility. It gives them a chance to at least look different and have different kinds of lineups and stuff like that. I'd love this Miami team all year. I really thought they were going to win or come close in game two. And when they got their teeth kicked in, I thought this is over. Like the
Starting point is 00:20:10 Lakers are just too big for them now. I don't know what to think. That's what I mean with every game being so different. It's, it's really hard to gauge anything. And I, you know, I hate to be a cry baby, but I don't think the dolphins, the heat will have the refs. You know, they're not, I think they let them play now, game four. It's the problem with the, and I said this going into the series, you can interpret some of these LeBron moments
Starting point is 00:20:35 any way you want, depending on what the situation of the series is, right? He's creating so much contact on both ends. Oh, yeah. And then Davis is just flying around the rim. And even some of those you can interpret however you want. I know they add the crowd noise,
Starting point is 00:20:55 but you can still hear the players more prominently than normal. When you hear LeBron gets mad, he's like, he elbowed me in the face. I was like, oh, my God. Is he going to get a restraining order? What the hell? What's going on? He's so upset. Yeah. The other thing that Miami looked like Miami today. That was what really frustrated
Starting point is 00:21:12 me about those first two games is they were deer in the headlights. They weren't winning the 50-50 balls. Those first three rounds, every loose ball they were getting, they were so tough. They had so much swagger. This game, they had the swagger. And there was a couple of times Butler was barking at Rondo. He's barking at LeBron.
Starting point is 00:21:30 LeBron barked at somebody at one point and Butler started talking and the league was doing its best to cut away every time. Right. Every time there was stuff happening, they always cut to like the freaking, you know, the Miami bench or something or something but you hear the audio drops because when they're swearing the silence yeah so it's fun but that's what I was saying before the series you have to like you have to go at LeBron you have to you know get
Starting point is 00:21:56 macho with them and you have to be physical with them you have to talk to them and the more reverential you are the worse it is he's going to destroy you but LeBron's in a really interesting spot because he's never been, you know, Durant in 2017, they went toe to toe. Durant was probably slightly better. 2011, Dirk outplayed him, but LeBron was gone in that series.
Starting point is 00:22:20 He just, he didn't have it and got worse as it went along. This was somebody doing a LeBron impersonation with LeBron on the court, which I can't remember seeing. Right. Well, I think the Lakers win in Miami. Then game five comes back to L.A. They win it. No, that's not how it's going to be.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I'm sorry. How about, what a rollercoaster ride today if you're a Philly fan. You have Jimmy Butler, this guy that you traded for, and then he left within a couple months. Then you have this whole Wentz thing where it's like, if he can't beat Nick Mullins,
Starting point is 00:22:53 what do we have? What is this? What is the future of Carson Wentz? And Doc Rivers to start the week, right? Oh yeah, and Doc had that too. So you think this still ends in five? I do. I think
Starting point is 00:23:08 if I were most confident on betting against the spread, I like the Lakers in game four, but I have money on the Lakers too, so I'm biased, but I think they come out. I wish I knew about Bam, but maybe that's a distraction if he gets in there. Who knows? 80%, 75%. I like
Starting point is 00:23:26 the Lakers. I mean, he was the best guy in the Boston series. Yeah, that's true. It's a tough one. The Dragic thing would have been fun too. Kendrick Nunn was just awful tonight. Four turnovers, 20 minutes, and it would seem worse than that. He just, he's the one piece that anytime he's in, it doesn't seem like
Starting point is 00:23:41 it fits. But, you know, I was thinking I thought they were going to lose. I had a whole thing I was going to do with you about the worst NBA finals ever. Oh, I was trying to figure it out because 2007 is the go-to. Yeah. When young LeBron was in there with nobody else, the Spurs like just wiped the floor at them, swept them. The, uh, 89 Pistons Lakers when the Lakers kept getting hurt, the games themselves are actually a little better than I think people remember, but it was a sweep, and by game three, you knew it was over. 1971, the Bucs swept the Bullets, and none of the games were close.
Starting point is 00:24:13 That was really bad. And then 2018, which turned out to be a sweep and was over after game one, basically, but had the great game one where LeBron scored 50, I think, and then JR had the big boner at the end of the game. Right. But this would have been,
Starting point is 00:24:32 this seemed like it was on pace to be a historically bad finals. Yeah. Not to mention no fans. Yeah. And the ratings have been abysmal. Like, it was just, wow, this is really,
Starting point is 00:24:43 this sucks that it's going to end this way. And instead, now it's actually kind of interesting. Yeah, I don't know why. We were joking on text, and I was like, I thought this would be more, I know Lakers-Celtics is what everybody wanted, but before this game, I'm like, oh, this has been a letdown.
Starting point is 00:24:56 I don't know why I thought the cutaway to Pat Riley, just like barely watching the game, was going to push this over the hump as a better than average series, but it, it, it hasn't, but, um, yeah, I, I've not seen you as excited in a long time as you were when you dug up that column that said that mentioned how we bet Dallas, uh, 37 years ago, you were very excited. You called me like, hey, this was the last time we won. I'm like, all right, read it.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Let's hear it. What happened? So, yeah, I found this thing I had forgotten. We bet on Dallas in six in 2011 and had this big debate on whether to hedge or not. And I don't think we did. I don't think we hedged it. Right. And we just nailed it.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And they were plus 450. And we like to joke on this podcast that we've never won ever. We've screwed up the hedge every time. That's at least one example where we just crushed it from start to finish. There you go. So I'm proud of us.
Starting point is 00:25:54 I'm proud of us too. And it was probably the last time I bet on a Dallas team that won. I'm sure we're going to have to get to that. Yeah, let's talk about that. We'll take a break. Then we're going to get back to that. This episode is brought to you by Movember. The mustache is back with a vengeance. Look at Travis
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Starting point is 00:26:53 their hearts weren't totally in it with the leader of the nation, you know, not feeling well. I know it was on the minds of a lot of the guys out there. Oh, God. Hoping he's okay. You know, just having him in their thoughts. They were able to gut through and I thought play some decent football. Your team, these should be zero and four,
Starting point is 00:27:11 but are somehow one and three Cowboys, got annihilated by a Browns team that lost Nick Chubb in the second quarter that got a pretty shitty Baker Mayfield performance for the most part, considering all the guys he overthrew under through whatever. And you still got, uh,
Starting point is 00:27:30 you still got crushed and yet you're down three. And it looks like in the fourth quarter, it's like, Oh my God, we're doing this again. You believed at one point. No, I maybe I believe,
Starting point is 00:27:39 but it doesn't even matter anymore. I don't get excited when they score and cut it to three or whatever and going for the onsite kick. Cause I am able now to focus and say, is this team going to play the chiefs in the Superbowl or are they going to stay within 20 points of the chiefs in the Superbowl? So I work backwards from there. And we're not, you know, we're not a great team really. We're like, we're, we're, we have very exciting moments in these games. I guess I can count, you know, I mean, I guess that's guess that's good, right? If you're a Jaguars fan, there's a lot of ho-hum games in there,
Starting point is 00:28:10 and you'll lose. This is different. I'm going to have three strokes every game. Prescott's going to have over 400 yards. I think he has like 502 yards today. It was insane what he does. I don't know what they're going to do with his contract. He's going to have Hall of Fame numbers, and Jerry's going to be like,
Starting point is 00:28:27 sorry, we got out of Troy Aikman in nine games what we got out of you in three games, and we made it to the Super Bowl, and I overpaid for Zeke, who doesn't seem like, I don't know what I believe about COVID side effects or after effects, but that guy is out of it. He really is. Talk about someone who doesn't want to be on the field because the president is sick. I don't know what Zeke is doing. There's always a turnover. There's always a weird play. There's always a weird call. We got a helmet to helmet call on a ball. We intercepted. It doesn't make a lot of sense, but I guess like we're just have
Starting point is 00:28:59 this kid that's, you know, very exciting and, you know, we're watching him grow, but you're not going to get a gift from him on your birthday. That's it. That's how I look at the Cowboys. You can't trade Zeke, right? His contract makes that too hard. Yeah. Yeah. Too much, way too much money. I mean, that would, should be the last of the big running back contracts, right? Just speaking plainly, forget about Zeke. Why would you ever pay a running back that much? This is a trend I noticed. Yeah. Noticed that last week with Carolina, I didn't bet on Carolina last week, but I picked them.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Just because they lose McCaffrey and the line swings completely so far out of whack. And then they win without McCaffrey. And then you watch the game this week. They were great this week. Mike Davis is like, yeah, he's, he's solid. He's like a B or B plus, but it's fine. You know, I think we see this over again. You saw it with the giants. Like they didn't have Saquon. It's like, ah, their season's over. They're done.
Starting point is 00:29:54 They were in that game. Freeman was good. And if Jones hadn't thrown a dumb pick at the end, I actually think they had a chance to tie that game. I think we just, you know, we've talked about how running backs overrated. You don't want to overpay them. They don't last as long as you want to. But I think we even overrate them like in the game to game course of the year. Like, you know, like the Patriots lost James White last year. People are like, oh my God, they lost James White. It's like, they're going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:30:20 They'll just put somebody else in. I don't think running backs matter that much. I really don't. I think Kamara is the one guy that I think dramatically matters because I'm not even sure Breeze is that good anymore. And Kamara is just, everyone's so terrified of him.
Starting point is 00:30:35 It's almost like he's more than a running back. He's some new position that I don't know what we've named. But other than that, it's like just, can you tell any of the Rams guys apart? It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I wrote seven of them. I wrote down Kamara. Cause I think he's the only one that made a difference, but I don't, I don't know, know that I would pay him that much either. I just don't. But where's the Billy bean? Where's the money ball guy is going to step in and say, Hey guys, cut this out. You could do a three headed monster.
Starting point is 00:31:01 You know, it is the Rams. He's doing it with Rex Burkhead, James White, Sony, I kind of suck Michelle, and Damien Harris and Taylor, the little guy we have. It's like, they don't care. They're never going to pay for running backs. But they're not that good. Those guys aren't that
Starting point is 00:31:18 good. You know what I'm saying? They don't put numbers up every week. Who's going to put the three-headed running back out there? I guess the Ravens do it if you count Lamar out there. We're going to get 160 yards rushing. I don't know where it's coming from. It's not coming from a guy who's making $45
Starting point is 00:31:34 million for the two and a half years, whatever. You knew the Z contract was bad when they did it, though. It's just not something that smart teams do. You just keep peering. They got to pay him. What are they going to do? They have to pay him. You, not something that smart teams do. You just keep hearing, Oh, they got to pay him. What are they going to do? They have to pay him.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Like you don't have to pay him anymore. You just don't. Four net, I think is the worst case scenario of this. Oh, right. Where they spend the fourth pick in the draft on him. And he doesn't even make it to the last year of his rookie scale.
Starting point is 00:32:01 It's just so many, it just seems like you can always get the Austin Eckler. Who's that kid in the chargers now? Kelly. Yep. Eckler goes down. That's fine. We have Kelly and then Kelly will go down,
Starting point is 00:32:12 but that's fine. We have just Jackson. There's a hundred running backs, you know? So anyway, with the Zeke thing, I don't think you could trade him because the contract makes it hard. Well,
Starting point is 00:32:22 and then you mentioned, you mentioned Nick Chubb goes out and which was great because he's on three of my fantasy teams. So I get no points from him and his team kills my team. So that's, that's fun too. But yeah. And then there's a, you know, Kareem hunt who should be a starter in the league. Think what you want about him. Right. Well, I have both of those guys on the keeper league. We're in together. Yeah. And when Hunt comes in, cause I think Chubb is really good. I think he's like a top six or seven running back. And then Hunt comes in and he seems like the best running back in the league. Every time they give the ball, it's like, he's getting five yards. Yeah. So I'll be interested to see what he does
Starting point is 00:32:57 over the next couple of weeks. Cause he looks fantastic. Then they had two other guys. They had Hill Hilliard. He was in there. And then who was the other guy? The earnest. Well, it helps somebody, you know, we have guys that can't tackle like, uh, it was a Jalen Smith. You just got,
Starting point is 00:33:11 they draft the same kind of idiots every year. You know, and I feel bad for like Sean Lee and Leighton Vander Esch, but it's always the same thing. It's a second round pick guy gets hurt in college. And of course he's going to get hurt in the pros. Just of course, that's just how it works with these second round pick guy gets hurt in college. And of course he's going to get hurt in the pros. Just of course, that's just how it works with these second round.
Starting point is 00:33:28 There's these tough nose, athletic type football players or athletes more than football players. And they'll shine for a while and then they get hurt. And then you're stuck with them and they're stuck with their contracts. Well, your receivers are incredible. Yeah. Ben has two of them on his fantasy team.
Starting point is 00:33:43 It's just like they're, well, he has lamb and he has Cooper. And they're wide open 25 times a game. It's like Dak back to pass, and then it's like Lamb's just wide open over the middle of the field, nobody near him. So, Philly wins tonight.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Philly's 1-2-1. It looks like the tie, the much maligned tie they took last week could actually win the NFC. They're going to win it going six, nine and one. Yeah. Put them a half game out of the lead tying. That's,
Starting point is 00:34:09 that's all they needed to do. So they're in the lead. Your next four games, giants, Arizona at Washington at Philly. And my prediction is you guys, you guys probably sweet those and you're fine. Uh,
Starting point is 00:34:23 you know, you don't even, you're not even saying, I'm not, I'm not reversing. You're not saying that with a straight face. No, I'm not reverse chasing it. You're not saying it with a straight face. You don't mean it. You'll beat the Giants. You'll beat the Giants.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I think we will. Arizona, who... I took a million dollar picks on Thursday night. And then I listened to Warren Sharpe in house on Friday. And he was like, Arizona's got the 25th offense. I think they're overvalued. I think people just like Kyler Miller. I'm listening.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I'm like, fuck. I think that's what I'm doing. Because I watched this last game. They suck. And so I backed off. I didn't actually bet on them. But a lot of people in Arizona. I'm not sure they're good.
Starting point is 00:34:56 A lot of people had them. I think this was, you know, we're not out of that, what we take for granted thing, right? Like Jared Goff was good in our eyes i don't know he corrected it in three weeks like all right jared goff's good like all right why are the niners were another one that was the nine tonight there was seven seven and a half but it's like you and i always talk about what if these certain quarterbacks get down a touchdown are you are you confident in them it didn't happen with the rams but it happened with the
Starting point is 00:35:23 niners who's the other quarterback it happened with? It's just, you know, we're not. Carr is another one. If Carr goes behind two scores, it's just turning the TV off. Of course, Foles. And like Carr, Foles, and Goff all reverted back to what we know they are in a matter of like 40 minutes. They all got on the same page.
Starting point is 00:35:42 That's why like Carr, you can't even look at a guy's numbers. Like Carr has eight touchdowns and no interceptions this year. You believe that? Eight touchdowns, no interceptions. Dak Prescott's numbers are phenomenal. But these guys are just not winners. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I'm sorry. Well, Giants, Zona, Washington, Philly. It's pretty nice. Yeah. I mean, if you can't go two and two, at least, that's pathetic. It gets rough after that. Three and one looks pretty good.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Yeah. Your schedule gets, we'll get a couple of ties out of that. I think. Yeah. Um, Mayfield today against your team was 19 for 30 for 165 yards. And that included Odell taking one pretty far.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Right. But, um, I don't know. No more Nick Chubb for them. They're three-1. And one of the weird outcomes so far this year is the AFC North. Pittsburgh's undefeated.
Starting point is 00:36:31 They're not playing this week. You have Cleveland's 3-1. Cincy's frisky. And then who's the other team in that division? I'm blanking. Oh, Baltimore. Cincy, Baltimore. They're 3-1.
Starting point is 00:36:43 So looks like we'll get at least two playoff teams out of there. And then the Browns, it's like, I don't know. The Browns, the way they run the ball, and they're so much better coached than they were last year. Could that be worth three extra wins from last year? I don't know. Yeah, maybe. Well, where do they go? They have a tough
Starting point is 00:37:01 one this week, right? Oh, no. We'll get to that. But yeah, that's the division that we thought the NFC West was going to be. So, but... Lots of playoff teams from there. More subplots. Gambling stuff. You know Joe Burrow?
Starting point is 00:37:21 Sure. 3-0-1 against the spread. Still not covered yet. Wow. I actually bet on him this week. I really like that dude. And it can't be overstated how bad his offensive line is. No. It is unbelievable that he's throwing for 300 plus yards in these games when you're actually watching them. And I don't know why I'm so attached to him. I don't, you know, I didn't bet on their over for the year. I don't have him in a fantasy league. I just like watching him to some of the shit he's doing in these games compared to the protection he has is out of control. He takes monster hits in the pocket. When he, when he leaves the pocket,
Starting point is 00:37:59 you don't even blame him for running. He'll get slot slammed, like right by the sideline. Like, I don't know how he's doing it, and he's making these receivers good. He's definitely fun to watch. Minshew was fun to watch, too. I liked that whole game. I'm surprised. I was like, ah, Cincinnati,
Starting point is 00:38:14 they don't deserve to give anyone three or three and a half points. I was on the wrong side of that. That line dropped to Cincy by one by game time. It ended up being lost. It's a lot of Jacksonville thing. Seattle is 4- oh against the spread. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:28 So I'm pointing this stuff out because as we learn over the years, people don't go 16 and oh against the spread. It's just stuff to file away. So those are kind of the two outliers so far. Dallas, the jets and Houston are all own four against the spread. So congratulations. Your team's four against the spread. So congratulations. Your team's 0-4 against the spread.
Starting point is 00:38:46 I think the Titans, who are probably never going to play again, are 0-3 against the spread, right? And they're 3-0. Yeah. Undefeated teams. We have the Seahawks. We have the Bills. Steelers and Titans, even though they ended up getting the bye week.
Starting point is 00:39:02 And then Packers and Chiefs, we'll find out tomorrow. And that's it. But we have for winless teams. You know how many we have now? Well, you get mad at me if I guess this. I'll say five. Wasn't it six last week? I'll say five.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Houston, the Jets, the Giants, and then the Falcons. Oh, just four. That's it. We have four, which leads me Falcons. Oh, just four. That's it. We have four, which leads me to our first cross-off team. It's time. Actually, you know what? Let's take a break. Let's take a break.
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Starting point is 00:40:51 Someone wrote to me and said, we're doing this wrong because there's more playoff teams and there's fewer... Yeah, no, we're doing it right. We are doing it right. Yeah. Now we're doing it every week
Starting point is 00:41:02 the rest of the way. Okay. Yeah. And we're doing it correctly. And rest of the way. Okay. Yeah. And we're doing it correctly. And that'll give us... Right. Okay. But I can't cross the Cowboys off.
Starting point is 00:41:10 This would be the earliest I think I've crossed them off. We're not allowed to cross any NFC East teams off since 6-9-1 could be the winning record. The Jets are miserable. And so is Houston. We only can do one. The Jets. Has to be the Jets.
Starting point is 00:41:26 They're not getting a wild card and they're four games out. That Thursday game, the Rippon who the Nats were really praising. He's like, man, he's really and then all of a sudden he just started throwing the ball to the Jets.
Starting point is 00:41:42 He put a good two and a half quarters in and it still didn't matter. The Jets, they still couldn it was like, oh, well, he put a good two and a half quarters in and it still didn't matter. The Jets, they still couldn't do it. This Denver team that probably shouldn't even be trying to win.
Starting point is 00:41:51 But yeah, the Jets, we bet on Jacksonville to be the worst team in the league. It's hard to imagine the Jets aren't going to have the worst record. The Jets,
Starting point is 00:41:59 the Giants have a little fight in them, right? We saw. It's going to be the Jets. They only scored nine points today, but their offense looked way better than that. Like they had drives. They got down the field faster than the Rams did, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:13 It just fell short on a field goal and everything. That Rams defense is, you know, everybody wants to list the MVP. They change their mind every 10 minutes. Is it Russell, Hustle, and Bustle? Is it Rodgers? Is it Mahomes? Oh, Mahomes was great in the Lamar game. It's him. Aaron Donald was right there. If you don't put him in the list of your top seven, you're an idiot. Do you put him in the list of your top seven? You're an idiot,
Starting point is 00:42:34 so you hesitated. You don't even put him in your top seven. I think he's in my top three. He's in on every play, and his numbers don't show it. A lot of these guys can put up numbers, obviously. He only had two tackles, like a half a sack and three pressures, but he doesn't get enough credit for the pressures and pushing the line back on runs and stuff like that. It's the only reason they won today. He's the only one out of all those guys who looks like a video game character. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Where you're playing whoever and the guy just guesses the play and he's sacking the quarterback and you haven't even done the seven-step drop yet. He's doing that. I think Kim, Wilson, Rogers, Mahomes. That's really it, right? That's been our best four. Am I leaving anyone out?
Starting point is 00:43:17 Lamar's out, I guess. I'm just saying if we're doing quarter. I hate doing this. This is crazy. I'm just saying I think those have been the best four guys. I guess it is the quarter mark. Wait, we don't have anyone else? Let me look real quick.
Starting point is 00:43:32 CeeDee Lamb. No, there's no Giants. Those are the best four. People will say Josh Allen. You know, that's fair. I think he has to be put in. That's fair. I instinctively want to fight it.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I thought he was really good in this game. He had a great throw to Diggs that basically clinched the game. The backhanded one? No, the one where he just winged it downfield and Diggs went up and got it. Oh, yeah. And like the five-yard line. But normally this doesn't happen where the new receiver shows up. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And in that first year, you don't see the guy click with the QB like that. Yeah. Well, and also we wrote Diggs off. Remember how upset he was and he wasn't getting the ball and like this body language?
Starting point is 00:44:18 I think it was a playoff game against San Francisco. And they were probably like good riddance. And then when he went to the Bills, like, oh, it's going to be the same thing, except he's going to be freezing in November. So that's going to make it worse. But he's, I think he had 115 yards today. He's, he's a force. You talk about like a top four receiver. He might be right up there. Yeah. He's, he's probably next level after that five that we mentioned, he reminds me a little
Starting point is 00:44:40 Jimmy Butler where he was just seemed like a diva and a dick in the Viking situation. But then you see him in a new situation, like, ah, maybe at a point, yeah, maybe play with Kirk cousins and Mike Zimmer is ideal. Yeah. So I'm introducing, Oh, I want to do this fat first coach fired watch. It's Gase Quinn and O'Brien, right? I think Bill O'Brien has to move in here now with the, Oh man, I think he does. I don't know how much past performance helps.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Cause he did win the division. Was it three out of four or four to five years? So I don't know how much, how much juice you get for that. Yeah. But you trade Hopkins and some first rounders because you're kind of playing for now and your own four. Uh,
Starting point is 00:45:24 well your guy, Patricia could be up there too. I know they had that win last week or whatever, but I don't think anyone's getting fired the next couple of weeks. So, but if Detroit loses two more in a row, I guess they have a buy. Which coach, which coach could fake COVID as a way to stave off the firing as, as a move. I don't know. The saddest NFL team is a new segment I want to start this week. Oh, we haven't named it yet.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Should we get a sponsor? Kyle, get us a sponsor for this. It's the saddest NFL team of the week. We're sponsored by Zoloft? I don't know. Our four finalists this week are the Jets, the Browns, who are now... Well, they're not eligible this week because they won.
Starting point is 00:46:10 But these are four staples. Jets, Browns, Falcons, Lions are usually in there in some form. I think the Browns have played themselves out of the list. Now I think it's Lions, Jets, Falcons. Lions, just because they're the Lions, but they set a record today. They've now lost six consecutive games, which they lost by 10 plus points.
Starting point is 00:46:29 That's never happened before in the history of the league. Wow. I'm going to reserve my right without seeing the game already tomorrow. I'm going to stick with the Falcons. I think they're the saddest. I think they have one more blown lead in there. One more big blown lead. It could be tomorrow or if they lose by 40, which is also a case.
Starting point is 00:46:46 I'm going to say they're the saddest. So you're going Falcons, Jets, Lions as your top three? Yeah. All right. I think that's what I would do as well. A couple more lame subplots this week before we get to guess the lines. There was a Golden Tate, Jalen Ramsey blood feud
Starting point is 00:47:00 that I had no idea about until I was actually watching that game. Yeah. Where Jalen Ramsey had two kids with golden Tate sister, and then ended up with a stripper in Vegas and golden Tate was mad. And there's been a lot of back and forth and they ended up fighting after the game, but not after Jalen had a huge hit on him and a really actually big play in the Giants Rams game.
Starting point is 00:47:22 But this was this whole subplot and the announcers are alluding to it. And finally, I'm like, all right, fuck it. All right. So I'm going to have to Google this. I had to Google it. And there was a whole New York Post story about it. And it was like a whole real thing. That's exciting.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I love it. Bring it back. You talk about pro wrestling. That's what you do. Imagine the guy named Golden isn't even the problem here. It's Jalen Ramsey, who we saw Jalen Ramsey during Hard Knocks just walk away from a Zoom meeting with what seemed
Starting point is 00:47:50 like the GMs like, all right, you're going to sit or what? Are we going to get your contracts? I don't want to talk about this. He walked away. Yeah, he's a handful. I don't know if he walked to a strip club or not. The Hard Knocks takeaway from him was that he's a handful. What was the other one with the media members when he was mad about talking to the media?
Starting point is 00:48:06 Then they had to bring him back for that. Yeah. So anyway, somehow they didn't get video of the actual fight. Where was it? It was right after the game and the handshakes. Oh, it was right. Okay. I thought they met like in the school yard.
Starting point is 00:48:20 A hundred cameras there. Nobody caught them. Oh my God. Apparently they were like swinging. Like, you know, like haymakers. Really? And then they fell on each other. Wow.
Starting point is 00:48:29 It's not like the hockey finals. They don't do it like that. Another lame subplot was Big Dick Nick, the savior. And it was interesting going into this weekend. People were either on the Bears. Now they have a better quarterback. That's where you know this team's for real. Or people like me who are like, well, wait a second.
Starting point is 00:48:49 We've seen Nick Foles start quarterback of other teams. That didn't turn out that great. I think the Colts are better than them. That was one that actually got right. But he looked not good. I don't know what to think. Because when we went over the lines last week, I was off by five points on the Colts line and I'm off again by a lot on the
Starting point is 00:49:07 Colts line this week. And I don't know how Vegas saw it, but their defense was excellent. But Nick Foles should put up points at home. He just should. And everybody laughed at me and I'm not even saying this was the right move, but Nagy took them out. Trubisky maybe could have brought them back against the Falcons. Wow. The truth is they're back.
Starting point is 00:49:28 I said it last week. I said he had 45 yards rushing. He had a touchdown pass, and they pulled him early. And how dare you do that? Like, that's the best part going against Atlanta in the second half. How could they take that from Trubisky? But the answer is Nagy has his mind made up. It didn't matter.
Starting point is 00:49:45 He didn't want to see anymore, and that was it. He brought foals in. And, um, I think he speaks for America. Yeah, that sucks. Cause if they won that game, that's a fun game against Tampa. We'll get to it on Thursday night. But now it's like, who wants to watch this bears team struggle to move the ball? It's, it's a three in one team and it's like the saddest three in one yeah well who's sadder three in one
Starting point is 00:50:08 Browns or Bears it's the Bears it's the Bears yeah it's the Bears okay but they had two big comebacks so it's also exciting last thing I wanted to hit
Starting point is 00:50:20 was the I guess we'll do the Brady Breeze overreaction segment every week just quickly. Hench and I were texting you that Brady was done. Then he hit him, throwing for five touchdowns. I don't know why it bothers you so much.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Just let us do our thing. He's our ex-wife. We won an event. We're kind of secretly rooting against him. Just let us go through it. I don't like it. He throws a pick six because you're like two demented old men walking through the park who have to get this as like he's done brady's done we can't do this anymore you've been doing this for 15 years
Starting point is 00:50:50 it's not even like when he's like it's not doesn't bother me as much when he's not on your team but it's still like yeah that's it and then when he's at his third touchdown pass you're like well he still has that one pass where he throws it over the middle and he can loop it and it goes over the tight ends's end. Yeah. And then when he's at five touchdown passes, all the different guys, I think, right? I mean, he's like throwing dimes to Evans.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And you guys are like, Brady, he did it. I just can't stand it. It drives me nuts. I don't know why you guys have to go through it. Why do you do it? Well, you hear their feelings. He spent 20 years with the guy and then he left. No, but you did it 10 years ago, too.
Starting point is 00:51:26 It was the same exact thing. Noodle arm. We got noodle arm Brady. No, no. Stop it. We never turned on Brady when he was on the Patriots. Oh, my God. Last year was the only time where I was like, what the fuck? This guy's not playing well. Why are we blaming everybody else? I hate when you lie to the public. No, that's Hench. That's not me. That's not true. You go along
Starting point is 00:51:42 with it. You can go back and listen to any podcast we've done since 2007. It's not the podcast. At along with it. You can go back and listen to any podcast we've done since 2007. It's not the podcast. At the end of the day, everything's fine. But you have to go through the same thing. He doesn't look good. His arm's not the same. He's injured.
Starting point is 00:51:54 He must be injured. Why is he even playing? I hate it. How do you think Breeze looks? Well, you know, he always puts those numbers up. What did he have? He was 19 for 25. So he's always going to dink and dunk.
Starting point is 00:52:07 You know, I think he's better. It's hard against that Detroit team. I did think it was going to be a game like Detroit won, but I was surprised he came back. And like we said, Kamara is very strange. Like he could just, he kind of like just lumbers through for the last 20 yards of a score. He did it last week. He does it. He has like that Le'Veon Bell, like kind of remember like that
Starting point is 00:52:29 Le'Veon Bell would go to the hole and just wait and then just like decide he'd commit one way or another. He's patient. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's, he really bells drew out a lot. I actually thought that was the weirdest game of the day. Lions go up 14, nothing. Right. The, the line heading into that game moved from four and a half to three by game time. And they continued what they were doing last week. They just look great. And then the saints just started putting together drives. Stafford missed a couple throws. It had a chance to be like a 48, 45 kind of shootout. Stafford missed some dudes. I didn't think he had a particularly awesome game.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I don't know what to make of Detroit. They might be the good, bad team. Yeah. That's your guy, Patricia. That, yeah,
Starting point is 00:53:19 they don't want you to forget that they're a bad team. So if they won the week before, don't jump back on them. Maybe the COVID thing, maybe, um, I think the line went down, which I was like four and a half,
Starting point is 00:53:30 one to three with new Orleans, probably because of the COVID scare, but maybe it, I don't know. Maybe it energizes teams. Well, it seemed like there were that, that game,
Starting point is 00:53:40 the Jaguars. Um, there's one other one where the line moved. You could feel the action going one way. I think the Rams were another one. I don't think anyone had the Giants. Right. So everyone had the Rams on some kind of money line parlay or something.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Yeah. And that was another thing. Anyone who threw the Niners in a parlay, throwing Nick Mullins in there. That was another thing we learned this week. Not sure about Nick Mullins. What about, I'm not sure about C.J. Beathard either. They show him, he's like,
Starting point is 00:54:09 it was like 14 for 15 or something, but he looks like every extra in an ABC drama in 1985. He's in 30 for something. All right, we're going to take a break and then we're going to do Guess the Lines. Before we get to Guess the Lines, let's talk about FanDuel Sportsbook. I swear they didn't put me in charge for a day if they had. I'm pretty sure I would have come up with something like same game parlays
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Starting point is 00:55:58 Because we've got two Monday night games. Not only do we have Packers, Falcons. What's the line for that? Like seven? It is seven. Yeah, I saw before it was seven. And then Pat's Chiefs is up to 11 because of Brian Hoyer. What was it initially? It was like seven, seven and a half. And now it's seven. No, seven all week.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Seven, right. And now it's 11. I saw 11 and a half out there too. I don't know. I didn't look this up. This has to be the most a Patriots team has ever been an underdog. I was trying to remember.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Yeah. Belichick was a Browns. Since 2001. Since some of those playoff games, like the Rams Superbowl and the Steelers playoff game. What was the Rams? Those two, right? Remember that was 13. Remember you lost all that money that year. Shut up. I don't remember that. Always blocked out. Yeah, aside from when he coached the Browns, there's only a few instances where they were like 11, 12, 13 points. You're taking the Patriots, aren't you? You're convinced they're going to keep this close. There is some stat when Belichick's getting more than seven.
Starting point is 00:56:56 He's like, I don't think he's ever lost. It's like one of those stats. Even between four and eight i think i read four and eight points and the sample size is small and it's years ago and it has nothing to do with anyone testing positive for a horrible virus but um yeah he's uh he's on the winning end for sure i would be very surprised if they kept it close you would be because even with cam i was leaning toward them wondering if they could keep it within a touchdown. You like to call this,
Starting point is 00:57:27 this is what you like to call the Milton Berle game, right? For the Chiefs? Yeah, it's like, you know, they didn't get up for the Chargers either, and they barely won that game. That's the only hope, I think, for the Patriots because man-to-man, they don't match up, but maybe they just don't care as much as the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:57:44 What's the generic bet everyone's going to make tomorrow? Chiefs, Packers, Chiefs. Yeah, you get the Chiefs less than a touchdown and the Packers just to win. And people will love that. So who fucks that, the Falcons or the Pats? I think the Falcons stay close. I do too. I do.
Starting point is 00:58:03 They could blow it again, but I think they're going to be, I don't know. I love the Packers, but this'll be, and you know, Devante Adams is whatever he plays. He doesn't play. This'll be three weeks in a row. The Packers have played a team without their best receiver. If Julio Jones doesn't play Galladay didn't play. Michael Thomas didn't play. They're kind of getting lucky, the Packers. I don't know. Agree. I see it being close. And plus, Lazard's not playing.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Adams is supposed to play, but he's not 100%. Right. Yeah. There's a case for the Falcons. I would go Falcons over if I was doing that. All right. Thursday night. My guy, Tom Brady, I never stopped believing him.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Him and the Bucs playing at Chicago, whatever that means. They lost O.J. Howard for the year, it looks like. Killies. Fortunately, they have a couple more tight ends. Godwin. I don't think Godwin will play would be my guess. Because if you're sitting him out for this Sunday game, why would you play him four days later, especially with the hammy?
Starting point is 00:59:03 McCoy was a decent. McCoy wasn't going to put up 120 yards, but I think they lost him too. That was a nice little outlet for Brady. So all of a sudden, losing some guys. I have the Bucs favored by three and a half over Chicago. All right. I got this exactly. And I need to win.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I've lost the first four weeks to you. Five and a half is the number. And don't want, don't put me on these texts with Hench, or at least start in the second quarter. I don't want to hear it. I'm going to put it on just because I know you're a denoiser. I hate it. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Khalil Mack is going to chase him down from 40 yards, and you're like, oh, it's over. It's over for him. He's got to get out. You don't even want to know what my texts with Hensher like about Tyler hair on Duncan Robinson, how bad they've been in this series compared to what, how they destroyed the Celtics. Every shot they made against the Celtics is now no longer going in. And hence I've had a couple of texts about it. Hensh hates it. Hensh because Hensh
Starting point is 01:00:00 thinks he's the greatest white basketball player of all time. I think that's why he probably targets those guys. Hench texted me in all seriousness a couple of days ago when somebody was missing three pointers and said, I made 67 out of 100 in my backyard the other day. He's like 51 years old. Do you know that maniac? Whatever high school he went to, I think he went like his senior year, he went like 71 for 74 in free throws.
Starting point is 01:00:31 And every year he calls the editor to make sure he still has the record. Can you imagine that poor son of a bitch has to deal with this lunatic? I almost spat water out. Can you imagine being 51 years old and counting a hundred threes in your backyard to see how many
Starting point is 01:00:50 and then going back in the house yeah he is a lunatic I love him he's my favorite person in the tech world Sunday marquee game
Starting point is 01:00:58 I'm pulling executive decision here no marquee game is that right leaving it vacant. Yeah. I didn't think any of them were worthy. So we're going to go to the watchables.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Okay. Yeah, you're right. You're right. There are none. First watchables. Bills at Tennessee. I think this has to be in here just because it's two undefeated teams. And, you know, it's week five.
Starting point is 01:01:24 I also enjoy watching the bills. I got to say, yeah, I, uh, I, I struggled before the year trying to figure out who the disappointing AFC team was going to be kind of thought by default,
Starting point is 01:01:35 it was going to be them. I don't think it is. And I, I actually think there's not going to be one. Right. Uh, I don't think we'll have a disappointing AFC team. They're fun because they, they no longer take 18 players to score. Right. So don't think we'll have a disappointing AFC team. They're fun because they no longer take 18 players to score.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Right. So they're not, you're going to put them up on a screen. Josh Allen throws good balls. He throws balls. Side arm is, is nowhere near Patrick Mahomes, but he's kind of dynamic and fun to watch like that.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I thought you might, I don't know what we're going to say. Singletary is really fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're good. going to say? Singletary is really fun. Yeah. Yeah, they're good. They play defense. Stephon Diggs is really fun. I just kind of enjoy them. When they're on the TV, it's pleasant. I feel like stuff's going to happen. You've got to start
Starting point is 01:02:16 hating them if the Patriots keep this close. This has to be your rival. I know it's weird for them not to be your rival after all these years, but... I'm still in the it's adorable when the Bills are good, but when we play them, we'll beat them stage. So we'll see when we have to play them. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I mean, honestly, we've been beating them since I lived in Boston. I got it. Which was like 20 years ago. What did you think this line was? Bills minus two and a half over the Titans. You get it. I went three and a half, and it's only one. Only a one-point favorite of the Titans.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Is this playing? The Titans have every day, there's like three new players test positive for the Titans. They must have like a 300-man roster, because for days and days, it's been more and more positive tests. Find it hard to believe they could add this many positives. Right. Or this many players.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I don't know. So many. Obviously, guys weren't wearing masks in the meetings and stuff. Right. Because how else would it be spreading like this? I don't know. It doesn't make sense. I think they're done.
Starting point is 01:03:21 I think they're done for the year at 3-0. And if they finish the year 3-0, do the 72 Dolphins have to... They don't get to toast, right? Because that's another undefeated team. Well, Shula's dead now. They can't do that anymore. Oh, that's true. Yeah, they can't do that anymore.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Yeah, Shula, as far as he goes, he's for eternity. He was undefeated now. Right. Next watchable game is the Chiefs at home against the Nevada Raiders. The Raiders, they're not very good, but for some reason their games are entertaining. I have the Chiefs by nine and a half. You edged me out here. We both went low, though.
Starting point is 01:03:59 They have it as 12. Oh, okay. That seems too high. You know, okay. That seems too high. You know, whatever. We both know that Casey could score 40 or 45, but I don't know how much they get up for a game like this. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:17 It's a lot. It's a three team teaser game. Third watchable game is going to surprise you. Cowboys minus seven against the Giants. Here's why the Cowboys in here. You guys are fucking watchable game is going to surprise you. Cowboys minus seven against the Giants. Here's why I have the Cowboys in here. You guys are fucking watchable. I know it's taking years off your life. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:32 I know it's almost a fate worse than COVID in some ways to have to watch them week after week. But goddamn, it's fun to watch them. There's a million fantasy guys. They're never out of any game. It could be 41 to 10. I keep the TV on because it's like, ah, you know, touchdown and a two point. They're never out of any game. It could be 41 to 10. I keep the TV on because it's like, ah, you know, touchdown
Starting point is 01:04:47 and a two-point. They're back in it. I like watching them. All right. It's true. I can see why someone might like watching them. It doesn't have to root for them. What did you say? It was seven? I went with seven. Boy, we were both off on this, but we're going to get a tie here.
Starting point is 01:05:04 It's nine. I said 11. So we both, we tie here, right? Line is nine. That's stupid. Chiefs, Cowboys. We need a third team. Your team does not deserve to ever be thrown in a teaser.
Starting point is 01:05:22 How dare you? Your team can't be trusted. Your defense is like legitimately terrible. Like it's terrible. We were one Hail Mary away from waking up in first place on Monday morning from the Eagles. So I want to hear it. You're giving up 40 points a game. Like legitimately, I think.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Is that true? Something like that, right? Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. How about this? What game haven't you given up 40 points? There's no preseason. Yeah, we didn't play preseason games. Yeah. How about this? What game haven't you given up 40 points? Uh,
Starting point is 01:05:46 there's no preseason. Yeah. We didn't play preseason games. Yeah. Yeah. No, like Danny Jones is a fantasy starter next week. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:54 You're right. I'm in there. Yeah. Uh, we're gonna take a break and then do the rest of the games. Take back your free time with PC express online, grocery delivery and pickup score in store promos, PC optimum points and more free time and still get groceries.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Shop now at PC express.ca. All right. Before we do the rest of the games, two by teams this week, the lions and the Packers. So if you're ever going to just dump Matt Patricia, this would be the week. Barely watchables.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Got five games. Falcons home for the Panthers. Falcons by one. All right, I got this exactly. Three and a half. Falcons are the 0-3 Falcons on a short week. We'll be favored by three and a half over Carolina. Carolina's another watchable.
Starting point is 01:06:53 You like them. You like Teddy Two Gloves. Why not? I like week five. I feel like I have a hand on everybody. And you can overrate, underrate people depending on how they looked against the team. And like Detroit looks really good against Arizona. You're like,
Starting point is 01:07:09 Oh, Detroit's good. And then it's like, Oh, maybe Arizona is not as good as we thought. I think we've seen enough now. I think the Panthers are pretty good. I think they're well coached.
Starting point is 01:07:18 I think this Matt rule thing might've been the, uh, every year there's that new coach that comes in and, and the team just looks crisp. Their defense flies around. I can't name one person on it. Bridgewater does stuff. He can move around.
Starting point is 01:07:32 They put him in a position to succeed. The fact that they're succeeding without McCaffrey, I think, has been impressive. I think they're pretty good. I was really impressed by them today. They didn't let Arizona in the game at all. No. They didn't give them in the game at all. No. They didn't give them a shot.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Game wasn't close. Right. Yeah, they're fun. They needed to get rid of Luke Kuechly. That was it. As soon as he's gone, I'm going in on defense. Well, my point is,
Starting point is 01:07:55 this should be a pick-em. I don't know how home court advantage matters even at all. I think Carolina's better than Atlanta. Especially if the Falcons lose next week, they're probably going to fire their coach. But, uh, well, why don't you jump on this then? I might actually might jump on this. I did that. Uh, who was green Bay playing? They were playing the saints, right? The saints hadn't even played their Monday game and green
Starting point is 01:08:18 Bay was getting four. I was like, something could happen to the saints. Breeze could get hurt. Kamara could be out. Why would this you? There's injuries all the time. So why wouldn't you jump on a plus three and a half here? I'm going to. All right. Next one. Steelers home for the Eagles. The rejuvenated one, two, and one Eagles.
Starting point is 01:08:37 They'll be doing a 30 for 30 about how that tie turned their season around. They could probably stop doing the Jalen Hurts, bring him in, try to make stuff happen play. Yeah. Maybe scrap that one. You don't have to justify that pick to us anymore. Just let Carson Wentz cook. I have the Steelers by seven. Yeah, you got that exactly.
Starting point is 01:08:57 It's seven. I said six and a half. That stinks. I think the Eagles stink. So the Steelers are a tease to me. Wait a minute. You think the Cowboys are going to get first place back? Could happen.
Starting point is 01:09:11 That'd be exciting. Rams are at Washington. Washington continues to look kind of lively for about an hour and then it fades away, but they have a good hour, though. That Baltimore was 12 and a half, 13 and a half. It was 14 in some spots. They came back to push on that.
Starting point is 01:09:31 They were getting beat up, but they don't really do anything offensively. I think they had like 75, 80 yards rushing today. I have the Rams by seven in that one. Where are we? I said, okay. I had seven and a half. Where are we? I said, okay. I had seven and a half. It's nine.
Starting point is 01:09:47 So I get that. That's stupid. Yeah, I'm back to not trusting Jared Goff anymore. I know he hit Cooper Cup in stride. I feel like that should happen five times a game. I don't get it. I don't know why we have to wait two and a half hours for that. I totally agree.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Ravens, Bengals. I would sit Joe Burrow for this one. Oh, really? Yeah. I'd come up with some sort of fake Joe Burrow injury so he doesn't have to get hit 200 times in this game. This is the game you sit. I have Ravens by 12. Yeah. I don't know why I went low. I went 10 and a half. It's 13 and a half. Ravens win. Chiefs win. Cowboys probably win. But keep going. I think we have our Moneyline parlay, but keep going.
Starting point is 01:10:34 So on Million Dollar Picks, I do the long shot parlay of the week. Yeah. And I hit it in week one. It was like 10 to 1. And I hit it in week four. It was plus 944. Eagles-Brown to 1. And I hit it in week four. It was plus 944. Eagles-Browns. Nice.
Starting point is 01:10:48 I think the Bengals might be one of my two teams for the long shot parlay. Oh, that's crazy. I do think there's a world in which Joe Burrow gets hit 50 times, but somehow they're down three with him driving late. People are like, what the hell is happening? How is his right arm still hanging on his body?
Starting point is 01:11:05 Well, don't make it a parlay. You're getting good odds just to take it alone, right? But that's why it's a long shot parlay of the week though. Anything you put with it, it's going to get 40 to one. I think, well, it could be the Giants. Maybe I'll do that just to spite you. I don't know why I'm laughing. It could easily come in.
Starting point is 01:11:22 And this could have been a poopfecta game, but I can't ever put the P have been a poopfecta game but i can't ever put the pats in the poopfecta pats broncos in new england this could be the brian hoyer brett ripian battle we've all been waiting for ripping whatever i made the joke i'm like the la doesn't even this is even a this is a fair they give this guy ripping a name of a an average quarterback from the early 90s and give him a different first day. Like, all right, we try to get Larry Testaverde, but he's not around.
Starting point is 01:11:51 So how about Brett Rippin? You think people will buy that? Yeah. Does Larry Testaverde exist? No, I don't think so. Wait, let me check this line because this didn't seem right to me. Oh, wow. It is.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Okay. I mean, so this is with or without Cam? This has got to be without him, right? Yeah, I had Pats by six. It's eight and a half. I went seven and a half. That seems too high. Yeah, that's a weird number.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Without Cam. Well, I guess it doesn't matter. Yeah, you got Larry Testiverde. It doesn't matter. Larry, what school did Larry go to? Iowa State? He went to Old Dominion, but an even older Dominion.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Older Dominion. Yeah. The Poopfect only has one game this week. It's the Cards and the Jets. What a fall for Kyler Murray. Yeah. I don't know what happened to him. I don't know what kind of offense they're running,
Starting point is 01:12:43 but anytime he scrambles, there's three guys there. Anytime he just drops back to pass, nobody's open, and the running game doesn't work. I don't know what happened, but I had the Cardinals by four and a half over the Jets. You're going to get it. I said four.
Starting point is 01:12:58 It's seven and a half. Vegas hates the Jets. They absolutely despise the Jets, so you get that one. It's funny. Kyler was what we didn't mention him in our MVP talk, but a lot of people loved him last week at around 10 or 11 or 12 to 1. They said that was a steal and we're like, oh yeah, because he throws
Starting point is 01:13:15 two touchdowns to Andy Isabella. That's the Cardinals. It's like, no. I think we saw what they're about today. Do you think the Jets every year Vegas has the team where they're just like I dare you to bet on these guys so they just jack it up by three points usually that's what this feels like
Starting point is 01:13:32 yeah you're not going to bet on the Jets I'm going to make this seven and a half Sunday night Seahawks Vikings Vikings at least this is a little better now I'm glad the Vikings won so this is now a decent game
Starting point is 01:13:47 they could be 2-2 with a couple breaks last week Cook looks great they have two good receivers they're not terrible I have the Seahawks by 8 we split it at 7.5 I said 7
Starting point is 01:14:04 now we gotta get it it's seven and a half i said seven let me count this right now now we got to get it it's close now one two three seven two three four five six you're up by one how many games are left one game i gotta see well no there's one there's one and then there's the monday night month miami san fran oh i didn't have that one. Isn't that a game? It's got to be. Yeah, I somehow missed that one. You know what, though? I don't think there's a line. Shit.
Starting point is 01:14:30 There's no line. I'm going to get rooked here. I would have put that in the barely watchables anyway. There's no line on this game, so you're going to get a one-game lead going into the Monday night game. Yeah, I don't know. They have to rush Jimmy G back, I think.
Starting point is 01:14:49 To compete in this division. Listen, that worked out great for him. He's like, alright, enough with the fucking Nick Mullins, this could be his team articles. Just stop writing them. I'm better than this guy. Nick Mullins had a couple terrible passes.
Starting point is 01:15:03 That pick six was atrocious. It was really bad. All right, Monday night, I got Saints laying seven and a half to the Chargers. Son of a bitch. You're 5-0. Wow. Has anyone ever started 5-0?
Starting point is 01:15:17 We've done this 14 years. You hit it exactly, seven and a half. I had six and a half. Wow. I added a half point because the Bucucks were favored by seven over the Chargers. So I just like the Saints are a half point better. You can't do that. That's cheating. You're allowed to do that? That was my formula.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Hey, I love Herbert. Isn't he fun? Herbert? Throw us a really nice deep pass. Here were his touchdowns. His touchdowns were to Donaldald parham tyron tyron johnson and jalen guyton and now he has eckler out i don't i don't know i know there's good replacements everywhere but they're they have similar injury lists to uh san francisco if you go to the defensive side of the ball too and he's getting it done he's fun to watch he throws like one bad throw a a game, but
Starting point is 01:16:05 I think the average quarterback probably throws like four. I like his deep ball. It feels very AFL late 60s ish. Something about like the way he does it with his hair and all that stuff is echo out for the year. What happened with that? No, I don't think so. It looks like it's going to be for a while though. Right. So it's it a knee thing is that what it is yeah i felt bad for him because he finally got he finally uh you know got the chance yep they were fun well what's the matter you did you think that's the last week you you just sighed like this is the last time we're ever going to do this i do i do i do wonder if that was it i'm already getting nostalgic for guess oh man they never a week from now who knows is our president gonna be alive a week from now are we gonna have football like what's gonna
Starting point is 01:16:57 happen and ironically he brought football back at least to the midwest so wow what a what a punch to the heart that would be. The only thing that could cheer us up right now is Parent Corner. All right. All right. It's time for Parent Corner, brought to you by CarMax, the way car buying should be. As parents, we need all the confidence we can get when it comes to used car shopping. Our friends at CarMax have got your back. Choose from over 40,000 CarMax certified cars at CarMax.com,
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Starting point is 01:17:55 Right. They wanted to play Roblox with him. Our older son, my old son. They texted. Yeah. We don't want it to get weird, but yeah,
Starting point is 01:18:01 they, they texted each other. My son's like, Oh, Harrison doesn't remember you. And Zoe, your, your each other. My son's like, Oh, Harrison doesn't remember you. And Zoe, your, your daughter got mad. She's like, what? He doesn't remember me. We're playing Roblox. And I think they were playing like for an hour. It's like another virtual game that I have to pay $7 a week for. So he can get like a fiery helmet or some shit.
Starting point is 01:18:20 She wants to, uh, she wants to come visit you guys. Yeah. So we might just show up in three hazmat suits. Let's do it. Me, Zoe, and Ben and do it. All right. Let's see, Paracorn, you're up. Well, I don't have air conditioning here, so it gets real hot. For some reason in LA, it's hottest in late September, October, right?
Starting point is 01:18:39 Yeah. And I don't have air conditioning because we don't need it most of the year. We're kind of close to the bill, like six blocks from the beach. But there are three weeks where we really need it and we don't get it. And the whole family is furious at me because we don't have it. So I took the kids to the beach. And because I have to be so competitive, we're in the ocean. And I bet them that I wouldn't get knocked over by as many waves as they did.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Now I'm a big, fat, almost 200-pound man, so I should have the advantage. But I went further out where the waves were higher, so that was their advantage. And it ended up being like 6 to 5 to 3 or something, and I won that. So everything has to be betting. Everything has to be competitive. I come home Saturday night and my youngest one is back into the bottle flipping that damn bottle flipping. I thought it was back. I thought it was over and he's flipping fricking bottles. And I hate it because
Starting point is 01:19:34 I think it's going to open every single time and spill all over the floor and into the grate and everything. And I'm like, please stop. And it makes a terrible noise. And why are we doing it anyway? But he kept doing it. I was like, look, here's the thing. We're going to do this one more time. And I'm going to give you $5 if you make it. All right. And if you don't, you have to give me a dollar and you have to stop. And he's like, okay. My six-year-old flips it. It lands. I didn't even give a shit. I was happy. He made it. I only have $10 in my wallet.
Starting point is 01:20:08 And I'm getting creamed on the football games, on all the college games. So I just want him away from me. I spent an hour and a half with you in the ocean. Just get away with the bottle, please. He wins. I owe him $5. I give him 10.
Starting point is 01:20:21 And he's like, thanks, Dad. I was like, well, wait a minute. You have to bring me change. I know these kids have wallets full of like dollar bills and everything and $2 bills that they got from the tooth fairy for years. So you have to bring me change. So I owe him five. I give him 10. He's gone for like three minutes. He comes back with a $50 bill, which must've been like a grandparent gift or something. Yeah. Birthday card. And now I have to decide, do I keep the 50 or do I teach him a lesson? And I'm looking at the TV and I'm getting slaughtered by central Florida who I have on the money line was up 16, nothing and blow a 16, nothing lead because they had 15 pre-snap penalty. That's a whole other thing. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:21:02 I can really use this money right now. And, uh, I thought about it. And then I asked my wife, I'm like, should I teach him a lesson? She's like, what the, what the hell is wrong with you? Give him his damn money back. So I ended up giving the money back. So I don't know what the lesson is there, but, um, did he know what the $50 bill meant? So then I had to explain to him, I was like, hey, this is 50. I only owed you 5. I gave you 10. You should be able to do this. The zero is better. When there's a zero, it's good. Exactly. It's fine. There's no decimal point here. Keep your damn 50. Please
Starting point is 01:21:34 go bottle flip outside. So that was that. I am breaking protocol. I'm doing a wife corner this week. Oh, all right. Ben said no more. No, no,
Starting point is 01:21:46 no, it's not. Wow. I just, I wanted to commemorate my wife. Um, it's nice. The triple crown for her is losing her phone,
Starting point is 01:21:58 losing her car keys and losing her purse. Oh, I thought, I thought for sure you were going to say sunglasses. No? Sunglasses, yeah, I guess. But it's usually one of those three. I've never seen her do it in the same day,
Starting point is 01:22:13 but she came really close the other day. She did three things. Two of them I'd never seen her do before. I'm working in the house in the morning, and she's leaving. She's going to play tennis. And she goes, and then she comes back and she's like, I left my phone.
Starting point is 01:22:31 I'm like, I thought you just said I did. I left my phone walking around. I'm going to zoom for work thinking nobody's going to be home. And she's stomping around, stomping around. Finally, I'm like, you know, do the, do, do the mute,
Starting point is 01:22:48 close the video thing. I'm like, what's going on? And she's like, I can't find my phone. I had my phone. I can't find it. Just like freaking out. She's like, call my phone. Call the phone. Don't hear it ring. All right. Where is it? It's like somebody took it. It was somebody went in our driveway and took it. Like nobody took your phone. In the driveway. So we have this thing. Do you have that thing where you can see
Starting point is 01:23:10 where everybody in your family is? Life 360? Do the Life 360 and it's on the street that's like five blocks down. What? And it's pulsating. It was on top of her car? We drive down there.
Starting point is 01:23:24 We're driving up and down the street. I'm like, I bet it was on your, I bet you put it on top of her car? We drive down there. We're driving up and down the street. I'm like, I bet it was on your... I bet you put it on top of your car and drove with it. She's like, no, I wouldn't have done that. It's... Needless to say, it's on the ground next to these two random dudes who are working in front of some house. And it's... The screen is...
Starting point is 01:23:40 Not the screen, but the holder thing's cracked. And it's just... It obviously was on her car and drove off. And it's like, haha. And I'm like furious because I just left this Zoom. She's like, don't get mad at me. I'm like, alright, so when can I get mad at you? How about when you drive
Starting point is 01:23:56 away with your phone on your fucking car? So that happens. So a couple hours later, I'm in the kitchen with Zoe and she's got, my carry comes home. She's got maybe 15 minutes to make a quick toast sandwich thing. Puts the pita
Starting point is 01:24:12 bread in and then she can't get it to come out. And she's banging the toaster, banging it. Finally flips the toaster up to try to bang it and breaks the toaster. Nice. So that was the second thing. Third thing, I'm doing a podcast three hours later and everybody knows when I'm back here, don't come back here. You know,
Starting point is 01:24:31 you got to concentrate. You look at people, look through the window. She's like, just leave me alone. If I close the door, like just stay away. So I see her looking in. Turns out she had been looking for her purse for 25 minutes, but she had left her purse in the guest house because she had come to tell me something. So her purse was in there. So it was the lost phone, lost purse. Toaster. Broken toaster all in the span of five hours.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I feel like this is as close to the triple crown as I'm going to see. She didn't lose her keys though. No keys. Keys weren't lost. But that was this close. But does your wife have days like that where you're just like, and then they're mad at you. It's like, don't look at me that way. It's like, well, where am I supposed to look? You're walking around like a maniac.
Starting point is 01:25:16 Right. Yeah. You have to be supportive. You're like, how do you get through a day? This is very strange. My wife is like that too. What's our role? What's our role during that? Are we supposed to be like, oh man, I just can't believe you can't find your keys. This is so unfair. I don't know. Right, exactly. It's the keys fault. It's not your fault. It's the keys. Why did the keys do this? Bless her heart, your wife. I honestly think we have three pair of her sunglasses in our house right now. Oh, there's no question. Do you want a toaster? I would like a toaster. Yeah. We were joking the whole day. She had a fight with the toaster. Like she literally had an altercation with it. I wish I had a security camera in the house. So anyway, that was wife corner. That's great. I left out my son for this week. A little reprieve there. All right. That was Parent Corner
Starting point is 01:26:05 brought to you by CarMax. CarMax, the way car buying should be. There you go. This could be our last week for NBA. Don't say it. Oh, for NBA. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:26:17 It's very possible. They play Tuesday, game four, and then game five is Friday. Could be done by Friday. Tuesday, Friday, Sunday. Is that the next three? Is that what they three? I mean,
Starting point is 01:26:25 it would, if Miami didn't win game three, this, this finals would have been over in six days. It would have been the fastest finals we've ever had. NFL. God only knows. We know we have two Monday night football games tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Hopefully, um, baseball playoffs. We didn't talk about, um, baseball just took the weekend off. What are they doing? They didn't talk about. Baseball just took the weekend off. What are they doing? They didn't want to compete.
Starting point is 01:26:47 They did not want to compete with college football, NBA, and NFL, but it seemed like there was a lot. They could have thrown a couple night games in Saturday night for sure. Can you name the four matchups right now? This is sad. I have to think about it.
Starting point is 01:27:04 I'm not putting you on the spot just to to belittle you this is sad that we don't know this anymore dodgers marlins uh no dodgers cardinals that's right marlins reds no reds are out. Marlins Braves? Marlins Braves. Come on, you can do this. Yankees A's? No.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Who is it? Yankees Rays. And A's Astros. A's Astros. Yeah. There you go. Isn't that sad? I mean, mean even five years ago we would have been way more into this right i can't believe baseball didn't play this weekend because i i they had a little momentum on wednesday thursday like i watched the
Starting point is 01:27:57 dodgers brewers game it was fun to watch kershaw light up the terrible brewers yeah we talked about this game sevens this now, this is just an afternoon sport, right? This is kind of like an afternoon kind of thing, right? Yeah, your theory was that
Starting point is 01:28:12 they realize their audience now is just over 45 white guys who are probably home or maybe retired. That's all. Which is basically my dad. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:28:22 They're like, what would my dad want to watch? Well, probably like weekday baseball. And I got to say, when it comes down to the ALCS or NLCS, I'm going to miss the fans the most out of any sport. Because that's the drama. Watching the pitcher blow on his hand, it's cold.
Starting point is 01:28:41 Watching the fans grabbing their heads, putting their heads like that's to me. That's the one sport that needs fans for TV purposes for sure. So what's their best final for them? Yankees Astros would be stupendous. Yeah, Yankees Astros. Hilarious. Yeah. And then Dodgers
Starting point is 01:29:00 Braves? Dodgers Braves on that side? Yeah. I think so. Although the Marlins are a fun story. Nobody knows any Marlins, but the Marlins are... They have the Pedro Jr. Yeah, that's true. They do, but as far as this team
Starting point is 01:29:18 wasn't even going to field a team, and they had 20 games left with two weeks, how did they do it? That's a fun storyline, but I don't know. It's like, how did they do it? Well, they did it because this was this weird short season that I can't believe is going to count. Poor baseball.
Starting point is 01:29:34 How many guys do you think decided not to juice this year just because it wasn't worth it? Oh, wow. Say, over under eight, nine? Yeah, maybe. Had there's been a couple there like i fuck it i'm not doing i'll give my body a rest this year maybe but this is also probably the year you get away with it right yeah they did their covid testing us they don't care about uh hgh yeah true good point yeah well i can't believe they took the weekend off i thought
Starting point is 01:30:00 that was the weirdest thing i didn't know where the baseball was yesterday. I was like, is it on true TV? I'm going through all that, and then I realized that there's no games at all. Yeah, that's happening. That was it. Alright, what do you got to plug? I have an extra points podcast network. Got extra points against all odds.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Hey, the Parley kid had a 6-1 odd Parley. Waver wired, laugh lines lines lemon pepper parley at minus three fox bet live 5 p.m eastern on fs1 i'm on there with rachel benetta clay travis todd firman uh and my book is out you can't lose them all pre-order on amazon pre-order it yeah yeah go get that or barnes and noble and i start the the Thursday night thing. I do a pregame show comedy bit. I think I'm doing one with Aaron Andrews this Thursday. That'll be fun.
Starting point is 01:30:49 On Fox? Yeah, on Fox. That's exciting. Did Clay Travis have any comment about the Titans being the team that got demolished by COVID positive tests when he was like the number one COVID isn't real guy out there? Not a great week for Clay Travis. His big dog, Trump gets COVID.
Starting point is 01:31:11 His team might never play again. Pretty spectacular on the common scale. Is he more receptive now to the thought of COVID maybe being a real thing or no? As his football team misses week after week? He texted me something along the lines of, I've heard immunity, baby. And then that's it. I threw my phone.
Starting point is 01:31:31 I threw my phone in the street with your wife. It was on the top of her car. That was it, yeah. So your wife had never done that. Your wife's never driven with the phone on the roof of the car. I think a purse. I think a purse and definitely a coffee and stuff like that that but i don't think no not a phone how far would you get before you knew you didn't have your phone i don't think i'd get six steps out of my
Starting point is 01:31:54 house or uh a quarter of a mile in the car it's a great point you would know i would know within a block yeah right because i always put it in the same place, you know? Yeah. All right, Sal. Hey, we're doing this. We're doing this next week. God damn it. I hope I see you a week from now.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Good job by you. Good job by you. That's it for the BS Podcast. You can check out all of the podcasts on Spotify and the entire Rewatchables library libraries on Spotify as well. See you on Tuesday night with Priscilla. Yes, we can. On the wayside. I'm a fruit seller. Never run.
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