The Bill Simmons Podcast - Bye-Bye Rodgers, Tua and Lamar in Limbo, Dak vs. Brady, a Title Sleeper, and Playoff Lines with Cousin Sal
Episode Date: January 9, 2023The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss the biggest stories from NFL Week 18, including the Lions ending the Packers' playoffs hopes, the Texans losing the no. 1 pick in the draft... by beating the Colts, Cowboys-Commanders, the Bills' two special-teams touchdowns in their win over the Patriots, potential playoffs story lines, and more (1:41). Then, they guess the lines for NFL wild-card weekend (39:59) before closing the show with Parent Corner (1:11:55). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Pro Jam! All right, we're taping this.
It is close to 9 o'clock Pacific time on Sunday night.
The most fun thing is us trying to guess
when they're going to schedule these six playoff games.
And they already announced it.
What the hell?
I was all excited to play that game with you.
And now we already know what the matchups are.
I know.
They're no fun.
It's a no fun league.
We knew that already.
But yeah, I mean, I have a million problems
with the slate, of course, because I'm a maniac.
But I'm sure you do too.
Oh, this is, we should just talk about it now.
I don't know what they were thinking because the six games,
the way they set it up was they have Niners Seahawks is the first game.
Then Chargers Jaguars is the Saturday night game.
Saturday sucks.
They made Saturday suck.
Go ahead.
Keep going.
Sunday, Bills Dolphins, Vikings Giants, Bengals Ravens.
And then the best of all the games, Cowboys Bucks,
just from like a fascination standpoint.
That's the Monday night game.
I thought for sure that they were going to make Bills Dolphins the first game
because that's the worst game.
Maybe put Cowboys Giants in that classic Sunday Fox spot.
And then, I don't know, Vikings Giants on Sunday night.
But they basically gave Vikings Giants the Pat Summerall, John Madden spot.
And they gave Monday Night Football the most interesting game, which I guess maybe ESPN
paid for it.
What do you think?
Yeah.
I mean, I had some insight about how hard ABC ESPN was pushing for this Monday game
and how they were owed and everything
else. And yeah, I would have thought that was the Saturday
game or something. But so that
lands on Monday. But wow,
I thought we discussed the AFC South
being the Shakey's game. And then Gino
Smith just stole it. Just
stole it, pulled the rug right under the league.
And it's right there. Right there.
Sorry, Gino. This is your spot.
Gino Smith said, hold my beer.
I barely beat Baker Mayfield.
It took me till overtime.
I'm in the shaky spot.
Damn it.
But they ran out of good quarterbacks.
That's the problem.
I mean, right?
We knew this would happen.
And then that's why the Giants and Vikings are like so prominently featured.
But if we're going worst game, just worst competitive football game, it is
Bill's Dolphins.
I somehow miraculously not seen the
Lions. I already mailed you my picks.
But Bill's Dolphins is the game I'm least
interested in watching. I watched the entire
Dolphins-Jets game today.
It was on one of the TVs. I had the Jets
a million dollar picks. I didn't have them in
real life, just a million dollar picks. That game was
excruciating.
Flacco versus Skyler Thompson.
Skyler Thompson, the way he quarterbacks,
he looks like he's like a frantic security guard after a car accident trying to wave people in different lanes.
Wow.
It's third and five in the second quarter.
What are you running a two-minute drill?
He's terrible.
Joe Flacco's terrible.
And now we have to watch the Dolphins again.
We're not going to see two in that game, right?
You are right. And from a
competitive standpoint, and I've seen
the lines after I guessed it, but
I think they're thinking two is not going to be
there. I don't know. It's kind of
right in the middle because if two is not there,
the Bills should win by 45 points.
Right? Yeah.
And then everything else, if he is there, maybe it shouldn't
be as high as it is,
but we'll get into that. Yeah. We'll get into it, but can I, can I spoil my take now?
How can Tua play in that game after he said three concussions this year? He can't,
you can't come back. There's no, there's nothing we've learned from concussion awareness in the last 15 years that points to somebody getting three concussions in the span of two and a half months and then being able to play again. So cross that one off. All right. Let's
talk about the Seahawks, Lions, Packers gauntlet for the seventh seed. Because the detractors would
say the seventh seed's stupid. All these teams suck. Congratulations. It took us four weeks and
then this dramatic Sunday so we could get the Seahawks
as a double digit underdog against the Niners.
The counter would be, it was fucking awesome.
Ram Seahawks was a beautiful disaster.
And then we got to see the Lions have one of their only good moments of the last 30
years where not only did they beat the Packers and Lambeau, they beat the refs.
There were missed calls left and right.
There were shaky calls left and right. Didn't matter.
And they have this emotional
they go for it on a couple fourth downs.
They have a little building block for next year
now. I really enjoyed it. And yet
I think the Seahawks are going to get killed.
I agree with almost everything you said.
Although I think idiots like you and I took a
hit today, right? And the guys
who say, well, the league wants this. And so the
league's going to get this. But then
the league called
a roughing the kicker, roughing a punter
when Seattle was punting from their
own end zones. Like, all right, that's weird. Then another
personal foul. They did everything they could to make
Seattle win, which made that Detroit
Green Bay game one-sided
in terms of who needed to win.
Okay, so then you go into the next game. You're like,
all right, well, they need Aaron Rodgers
in one of these playoff games.
He has to go against San Francisco.
And then they couldn't even make enough calls,
although it looked like they were close,
to put the Packers over the top.
So it was exciting.
It's exciting for Lions fans.
I was wrong when I said, like, oh, when a team loses,
when they don't have a chance to make the playoffs,
they're going to play with 20% less vigor.
And I was dead wrong.
The Lions were good.
They're one of the better teams to not make the playoffs,
I think, in recent years.
And they were fun.
I think Goff is better than Rodgers.
And you talk to Lions fans,
this is like a top two win in the last 20 years,
just knocking them out.
Well, the Lions fans were outraged.
And we actually disagree.
I think the league did everything they could to get Rodgers in that game, including the Lions,
the Seahawks-Rams game was just outrageous. Some of the stuff that they missed in that game.
But I was thinking like, because I was with you, all right, what's the Lions motivation? I ended up picking the Lions in million dollar picks. and I just thought they were at least going to keep it close.
To me, once you remove the pressure of the playoff game,
in some ways it makes you more dangerous.
Hench pointed this out on one of the texts we had with him at house,
where it was like, the Lions more dangerous if they have nothing to play for, they don't give a shit.
They become like, it's like they've had two drinks.
Like that play they ran, what was it, that quick wide receiver pass
where then they lateraled to another
receiver. There's three minutes left.
You would never do that if the playoffs
were on the line. You would never go for that many
fourth downs if the playoffs were on the line.
I actually thought they were more aggressive
and it was better for them
that they didn't have anything to play for.
I thought it made them more dangerous.
Yeah, I guess you're right. I just think going
into it, I think most teams wouldn't be like that.
But because this is such a rivalry, because Campbell hates the Packers,
knows the fans, hate the Packers more than anything,
he really did them right.
It's a shame.
I wouldn't have minded seeing them at all at San Francisco
if that could have happened.
Well, I mean, Detroit was the best team in either conference
not to make the playoffs, right?
I think that's fair.
I think the Patriots' defense was good enough
to be in the playoffs.
The rest of the team kind of held them back.
The Jets, talent-wise,
until their quarterback situation fell apart,
I think talent-wise, they were pretty close.
Right.
That's it, right?
And Pittsburgh was the other one.
If we had Pittsburgh and Detroit in those two spots instead of the Seahawks and the Dolphins,
I think these playoffs are better.
NBC tried to do a whole... First of all,
everybody all week tried to force feed us.
They better not let Aaron Rodgers in there.
They better not let him in.
I think we would have been all right if they let him in. I think his let Aaron Rodgers in there. They better not let him in. It's like, I think we would have been
all right if they let him in. I think his
best days have passed him by.
I thought he kind of stunk
in the game today. He got his ass
saved on the second interception he threw
where they did some sort of hands
to the face call that I feel like
happens during half the game on half the
plays, whatever.
You think like, all right, finally he loses in Lambeau.
This should be a pretty big story, right?
Whoa, this is, what's going on in this division?
The Lions.
Like this is one of the big bully in their division for 15 years.
They go into his house and they beat him.
That seems like a talking point coming out of the game.
Nope.
It had to immediately become Rodgers.
Could this be it?
Tirico and Collinsworth, they start doing this whole,
this could be it.
This could be the last time we see him.
I'm like, what?
He just signed a contract for $200 million.
This is going to be the last time we see him.
Get out of here.
Stop it.
And then, well, who was it?
Jameson Williams tried to swap jerseys with him,
and that became huge news because he was like,
no, I'm going to hang on to this.
Whatever happened to just wanting to hold on to your jersey?
You have to swap with the lesser player?
Like, Jamison Williams could be great down the road, but he almost screwed his team today.
And if Rodgers doesn't want to give up his jersey to Jamison, like, you have to give it to anybody?
You have to give it to, like, the third or fourth guy?
What if Rodgers knew who Jamison Williams was?
Yeah, exactly.
50-50?
Yeah, just sprint off the field if that's the case
so nobody ambushes you grabbing on your jersey.
So I wouldn't read into that at all.
I think we went over the teams that are set with quarterbacks.
I think the whole NFC North might be set.
But other than that, it really is like two for each division.
I don't know.
Who knows with Green Bay?
Aaron, can I have your jersey? I could probably get $125,000 on golden options for it. Can I have it? No, but hold on
to it. Oh, does that mean he's retiring? What are we doing? And then they just gloss over the fact
that he just wasn't that good in the game. He put up 16 points on the Lions. They were in the red
zone four times. They had to settle for four field goals. And I thought, I really thought they gave away the game
in the first two and a half quarters.
The longer it went on, the more it felt like
Goff started to get a little more comfortable.
And then you have a situation where Goff goes into Lambeau.
And then you have the Seahawks, who they have,
if you're a Seattle fan, in the first game,
you're rooting for Geno Smith to beat Baker Mayfield.
And you're rooting for Baker Mayfield to do good things for you, which he did.
And then you're rooting for Jared Goff.
Has anybody ever rooted basically for Baker Mayfield and Jared Goff in the same day?
It almost breaks your brain.
Then it worked out.
Yeah.
It worked out.
It really worked out for them.
Yeah, I agree.
Back to the Packers real quick.
When I was watching Rodgers barely get rid of the ball, I was like, oh, man, he's going
to get crushed against the Niners.
I don't want to see this.
I'm like, wait a minute.
I want to make some money.
I want to see this.
What can we do?
And now Geno Smith, he's erratic.
By the way, he broke the Seattle Seahawks passing record.
Good job.
Good job.
Coach got fired because of Russell Wilson.
Now this guy is like the leading passer of all time for the Seahawks
just in one year.
But I don't trust him as much either in that team.
Yeah.
Kudos to Gino.
It was an enjoyable ride.
Yeah.
I respected the fact that he put his career together
and finally had a moment.
But I don't trust him in a playoff game at all,
especially going into San Francisco.
I don't trust their defense.
And I watched that whole game.
Mayfield was horrible.
I mean, Mayfield was capital H.
Remember when they was like, man, maybe he revived his career.
Maybe he's a starter.
Yeah.
Well, the verdict's in.
He's not a starter.
He was awful.
That bomb he threw in overtime
where I think it was Van
Jefferson. He's 10 yards
open. And
Jefferson almost tears his ACLs
stopping. So basically
he's trying to field the punt because Mayfield
underthrew him so badly. Diggs
picked it off. Taunts the ramp
sideline on his way out of bounds. They don't call it.
They don't call anything against the Seahawks
now again, but Baker, I thought, had
open receivers in that game,
and now they're going against Brock Purdy, the best
quarterback in the league, undefeated Brock,
and I don't know.
I don't. We'll talk
about it when we do Guess the Lions, but to me
that is a classic three-team tease.
Just throw the Niners in and don't even think
twice about it, Right. Yes.
We'll talk about what,
who the third team is,
but yeah,
we have,
we have two,
we have two right off the top,
but yeah,
I just,
I like Daniel Jones is the,
maybe the second best road quarterback in this,
in the slate.
I guess not.
I guess there,
no,
I have,
I have a quarterback ranking list for you.
I want to do with you later.
Okay. So I was thinking a couple, a couple of quarterback ranking list for you I want to do with you later.
Okay.
So I was thinking a couple things with that Detroit-Green Bay game.
One was the Rams,
they make that golf trade, right?
They have to give the Lions their pick.
And that's going to be the...
That's going to be the sixth pick in the draft.
So then they have to beat the Seahawks for the lions.
And I think when we got to overtime,
I think the Rams are just like,
fuck this.
We've already given you guys too much.
It's like a dad on Christmas.
Like I just gave you seven gifts.
Fuck you.
Go upstairs,
go to your room.
We're going to Baker Mayfield,
throw a bomb.
Screw you guys.
Can we say goodbye to the Rogers mystique though?
Is it over?
Yeah.
I think it is.
I mean, I'm looking at it in terms of where he ranks just in that division.
And I said to start off, I'm like, I honestly think Jared Goff might be better.
I don't think that scrambling ability is gone.
He overthrows receivers like Christian Watson.
We talked about this.
He has no sense 18 weeks in how fast anybody is on his team.
It's easy to blame the receivers, and it might be their fault a lot of times.
But yeah, the mystique, for sure.
Not a top-tier quarterback anymore.
This happened in the NBA, too, where LeBron's such a freak.
I mean, LeBron, they're on a five-game winning streak right now,
and he's putting up big stats,
and he's year 20,
and it just makes you think other people should be able to do this, right?
Then you have Chris Paul, who is aging at a normal rate,
who was in the 2005 draft,
and Phoenix now has a 500 team,
and Chris Paul's moved into a different point of his career, right?
It doesn't mean anything bad about Chris Paul.
It's like, that's how the fucking league's supposed to go.
You hit your late 30s, you're a point guard.
You should move into a different phase of your career.
And I think Brady's done that with Rodgers.
Brady going into his mid 40s and still kind of looking mostly like Brady
makes it seem conceivable all these other dudes can just do this.
And they can't.
Like Aaron Rodgers is not going to be able to play to
his 45 i mean we've already seen him slip the last couple years at this point if you're aaron rogers
you just don't want to slip like a russell wilson right you want a gradual decline because there's
going to be a decline you're not going to get better and your brother brady's a freak so you
just avoid the russell wilson year and you can play in the league for probably as long as you
want for five more years but you're not going to be top tier, as you said.
Yeah, he turns 40 in December.
And that's a death number normally for quarterbacks.
And then Brady just obliterated it.
But everybody else who started to edge toward that age
just completely faded away.
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All right, so a lot of Week 18 stuff happened
that was really, really enjoyable.
I have a couple categories for you.
Funniest moment.
Houston loses their number one pick.
But Lovey Smith, who the reports in the morning are that he's going to get fired
and the GM's probably getting fired.
And it's like, uh-oh, watch out for this game.
They take out like a 14-0 lead.
They're down seven.
They score to tie it, but then there's a penalty.
All of a sudden, it's fourth and 20.
Mills just heaves it
into the end zone. The Colts' safety
has the worst, most missed time jump
I think I've ever seen in a National Football League
game. They catch
it, and then Lovey's like,
fuck this, and he goes for two.
He makes it, and he blows
the number one pick for them.
Chicago, who never gets a break ever. they haven't had the number one picks since 1947.
They traded their second pick for Chase Claypool, who I think had like two catches in the last half
of the year. So they don't have the 32nd pick, but they do have the first pick all because Houston
inexplicably is like, we're going for this. I couldn't believe it.
What were you doing?
You were in Vegas watching it.
I was very excited because I had the Bears at plus 650 to have the worst record.
And I had a good amount of money on it.
I was like, this is unbelievable.
This really is.
You look at how the Bears, I feel like the Bears played more good games than the Ravens.
And the Ravens are in the playoffs.
And the Bears had three and games than the ravens and the ravens are in the playoffs and the bears had were 3 and 14 with the with the worst record but yeah the fact that they're trying
look you can't ever let it out i i've come to the conclusion that if you're a gm or an owner
you just have to be a dick and lie to these coaches because if you tell lovey smith he's
going to get fired of course he's going to try to win right right what what incentive does he have
to lose so you got to be like hey hey, Lovey, you're sticking around.
Hey, go look for houses this weekend.
Don't even worry about it.
If you want to win, win.
If you want to lose, lose.
It's fine.
This week 18 doesn't mean anything.
And then pull the rug from underneath them.
But you can't give a coach this much power, I don't think.
Yeah, they should do like a more dramatic,
they should have done a more dramatic version
of what the Colts did with Jeff Saturday.
We've sadly parted ways with Lovie Smith
for this last game.
And we've hired Hakeem Olajuwon
as our coach for the last game.
Hakeem's never watched a football game before,
but he's going to be on the sidelines for us today.
And by the way, Davis Mills has a calf injury
and he can't play.
And neither can our backup and
we've brought back ken stable even though he's dead and he's gonna be a quarterback i like it
all there's just there's no way if you're a good organization you can't win that game you just
can't i know it's bad it's it's a lot of money to be able to even if you don't need the you know
whatever like that now the bears could trade that down right because they're not gonna probably go
for others and they probably won't take a quarterback in this spot,
but they'll be able to trade down.
It's so much value that one between the one and the two or anything else.
But yeah, I mean,
they probably weren't counting out Davis mills at 28 yard touchdown to
Jordan Atkins on or Atkins on 21, whatever.
And so they covered themselves pretty well,
except for the coach that was pissed off.
Well, you watch way more college football than I do. Why wouldn't you, if you're the Bears,
why wouldn't you rather have Bryce Young and pick him and trade fields? Because Bryce Young,
you'd have for two extra years, right? You wouldn't have to worry about the free agent deal.
You'd have him for five years instead of fields with three. And you could argue he might be a better prospect than Fields. Because I have Bears fans
in my life who are like, oh no, we're set with Fields. And I'm like, I like Fields, but really,
are you set? There's not a quarterback in this draft that's better than Fields. And you could
have him for that two extra years. It's not bad reasoning, but I feel like in this day and age
where you hit like 35, 40% on quarterbacks in the last few years, you can't reasoning, but I feel like in this day and age where you hit like 35-40%
on quarterbacks in the last few years,
you can't say, and I like Bryce Young a lot.
Nobody moves in the pocket
like he does, but he's being
held hostage by Tua
and being from that team.
It matters. From the
same school, both small.
I'm not going to say non-contact
hits, but they're coming when you're getting flung to the ground,
not helmet-to-helmet stuff.
The small, the lack of size only matters in that regard.
I could see Bears fans wanting to hold on to them,
but either way, it's a mess for the Texans to win that game.
Well, you have the Colts at the fourth pick.
That could be the trade-up team, right?
Vegas with the seventh pick. Yeah. That could be the trade-up team, right? Absolutely.
Vegas with the seventh pick,
but I think they would probably go for
some sort of veteran.
And then Carolina with the ninth pick
is another one that
maybe could be a possible trade-up.
Yeah.
And then after that, I don't know.
But yeah,
I thought that was crazy.
And really, like,
the Bears fans,
it just,
they were two and one.
They went, what did they go?, they were two in one. They,
they went,
what did they go?
One in 13 the rest of the way,
basically to get to the number one pick,
like impossible.
Um,
yeah.
The,
uh,
the Colonel Jessup award.
Ooh.
Um,
this goes toward,
uh,
you want the truth.
You can't handle the truth.
Oh,
we found out some truths
in week 18. Sam Darnold is
not a starting quarterback. I'm sorry, Carolina.
I had
Carolina at the wins total
six and a half. I hedged
it with this Buffalo, New Orleans,
six and a half point tees, took New Orleans to three
and a half. I think it's the
first hedge I pulled off in eight years.
At one point, So I watched a ton
of that game, even though it meant nothing at one point, Darnold was four for 13 for 22 yards,
two picks, and he fumbled in the end zone that was recovered by his own team. And that was how
they scored. He just couldn't have been worse. And then he finally completed one pass at the end,
but I just don't think he's a starting quarterback. I don't think Baker Mayfield's a starting quarterback.
There's a couple, any other guys that you're just like, okay, are we done here?
Are we, we done with the roulette?
Like Zach Wilson, we know he's not a starting quarterback.
Anybody else you're out on?
Uh, well, first of all, I liked your tweet about Sam Darnold and about like he leads
a league and, um, what'd you say?
I'm getting surprised by a shotgun step that bounces off his helmet or shoulder pads?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think he's the career leader in that.
I think you're right.
And I wouldn't be surprised.
It's like a Johnny Knoxville move.
Like someone in the locker room is installing a magnet into his face mask.
And it's just like, just somehow it's bouncing off there.
Like every four snaps or something.
I think you're true.
You said Baker, right?
Was it true?
Yeah.
Yeah. Write him you're true. You said Baker, right? Was it true? Yeah. Yeah.
Write him off.
Yeah.
Anybody else?
Dak Prescott, maybe.
I don't know.
You want to talk about that?
I had that.
I had that for saddest moment
where it's like, all right,
the Cowboys don't really need
this game.
But at the same time, like
it's got a little offense
going here.
You know, you got got to go
into Tampa next week. You're playing grass. The the same time, let's get a little offense going here. You got to go into Tampa next week.
You got to play on grass.
The clapper, Jason Garrett,
during, I think, the halftime show
or maybe the pregame show. He's concerned.
Yeah, he was talking about
the Cowboys outdoors on
grass. He didn't like it.
And then he just grinned maniacally for some reason
after he said it.
I just thought you needed a little more today to get a little more money.
It feels like you have no momentum whatsoever.
Of course.
It sucks.
14 for 37.
What do you have?
128.
His passer rating was 45.
I don't think he threw downfield.
There was one reception for like 15 yards.
But the only thing I could say about this team, and I wanted a clean Dak game.
I really did.
I did not want 14 to 37.
I didn't care if it meant something or not.
But if you look at the interception leaders,
the top eight,
five of them are in the
playoffs. I did this before and I thought Rogers
was going to be Dak, Cousins, Burrow, Allen,
Mahomes. So if you throw
enough, it's going to happen, but
we'll get to this line. I mean,
I thought a couple weeks ago this would
be six or seven, and that
is not the case. I do not want
Tom Brady being the hotter quarterback of the two.
More
Colonel Jessup. You can't handle the truth.
The Belichick coaching
staff,
if that wasn't a wake-up call today,
they gave up two more special teams touchdowns.
This is an 8-9 team.
Like, Hench was texting me, like,
do you think the defense is going to get in a fistfight
with the offense or the special teams?
I mean, some of the defense is on the special teams,
but this was an 8-9 team where they probably blew four games
just on dumb shit.
You know, the game management, special teams, all this stuff.
And I'm going to be really interested to see if the Crafts meddle with Belichick shit. The game management, special teams, all this stuff.
I'm going to be really interested to see if the Crafts
meddle with Belichick because this is the worst
coaching staff he's ever had.
They have to fix it.
They've never really meddled with him that much other
than with the Brady Garoppolo thing.
I'm just going to be interested to see what happens because their defense
was good enough to be in the playoffs. Their offense
got a little momentum. Today was
the best the offense has looked all year. Today was the best the offenses looked all year.
It was the best Max looked all year.
It actually had the makings of something,
but the special teams just killed them.
Well, you also have like,
don't you have seven defensive touchdowns
and two special teams touchdowns yourself?
So you live by the sword.
Defensive, yeah.
No, seven defensive, two kick returns.
Two kick returns, yeah.
I don't think that's a bad thing.
They could make it like, Belichick can't be happy with the supporting cast. Why don't think that's a bad thing. They can make it like...
Belichick can't be happy with the supporting
cast. Why can't he fire him?
They can make it like it was
inspired by the front office,
but let him get rid of some
of these guys. He's got to know
deep down he can't win with lackluster
coaching like this. I would hope
so.
Most underrated storyline.
I'll give you two.
Three Florida playoff teams.
Oh, is that right?
Do you realize that?
Do you know when the last time
that happened was?
What year?
Ponce de Leon discovered.
Hold on.
Let me work backwards here.
No, I don't know.
What year?
It was the first year
I ever had my sports guy column.
1997. It was the last time we had
all three Florida teams. That's kind of amazing
because so many teams make the playoffs.
I would have thought that would have happened
sooner than that, but no.
Jacksonville and Tampa.
What were the odds? What kind of odds could you have gotten
that even a month ago?
Yeah, or them hosting
playoff games. Right. But that's
not the most underrated storyline. The most underrated
storyline is Brock Purdy is now 6-0.
And you don't even
bat an eyelash anymore as he's whipping
touchdowns around. I can't
believe...
I actually think this should be a
bigger story. And there's been all these giant
stories that have come out of nowhere, and rightfully
so, have shoved some of the normal football stories to the side. But this Brock Purdy thing's an
incredible, like I, well, once in a decade monkey wrench, we talked about it when it first happened,
like, all right, here are the examples of when this has worked out. Kurt Warner with Trent Green,
Jeff Hostetler in that Giants year. There's been a couple and we're like, ah, you know,
they have a really good team, maybe,
but I think the guy is
one of the 10 best quarterbacks in the league.
I haven't seen him look bad yet. Have you?
No. Well,
he had a tough quarter
against the Raiders, I guess. That's why they broke
him, right? But he
also was 10 points down or 10 double digits
down. Came back one. I think he's really
good. I think this team is excellent.
And if I want to power rank the NFC teams, forget about the seedings.
I think they're number one.
And I'm not excited because they beat up David Blau and Chase McSorley.
I know that combo wasn't going to get it done.
But just this defense.
They allow like 270 yards.
More often than not, they're a dynamite team.
And I think they are the toughest out in
the league. Well, the crazy thing about
them, I mean, think
about how this broke for them.
They get the Seahawks
in week one.
In the round two, it's
going to be the 2-3 probably.
Maybe the Vikings.
Yep. If it's not
the Vikings, it's the Cowboys or Bucks,
but let's say it's the Vikings.
They were able to flip that where it looked like they would have to go into
Minnesota.
Who knows?
It's weird there.
Now Minnesota has to go there.
I don't like their chances at all.
And then they'll ask him,
they they're like,
if we're creating a team in a lab to play Philadelphia,
you create the Niners,
like really strong pass rush,
really well coached, can jam the ball down your throat, couple of skill guys. That's a Philly
worst nightmare. So all three of those, I was going to ask you what's your biggest betting
regret of this year? Because mine was there was that moment when Purdy came in and we both really
liked them. And I just stared at it. It was like Niners 18 to one or 20 to one, something like
that. And I just stared at it and I didn't Niners 18 to one or 20 to one, something like that.
And I just stared at it and I didn't do anything.
And for the Superbowl and now it's like,
and the moment was gone within a week and that was it. But I really wish I just bet it when I,
when I felt it.
Yeah.
Mine would be the six weeks in a row.
I lost on a Tampa green Bay teaser.
Probably.
I can't really name one.
Yeah, I mean, you say, are you concerned as a Cowboy fan?
I think Eagles fan should be also, right?
No Saquon, no Dory Jackson, no Danny Dimes.
Davis Webb starts.
Hurts, is he back?
I don't know.
You want to see a decent game?
His QBR was like less than 25.
So that's why I'd like to be able to bet that an NFC East team will not win the Super Bowl.
I'd put almost anything I had on that.
And I'm not just being like a contrarian.
What would the odds on that be?
They're probably like minus 700.
Yeah, like minus 600.
Yeah.
Yeah, right in there.
But to your point with the Niners, I don't see any bad matchups for the Niners even go to the AFC side I really don't not that they're
going to blow everybody out but you name you put any opponent possible on their schedule I'm like
yeah that's fine yeah they should be able to handle them well that I had that as, I had best playoff storylines for you that I just jotted down.
And one of them is that on February 12th, we could be like, wow, Brock Purdy is 10 and 0.
And he's a Super Bowl champion.
That's an actual thing that could happen.
Right?
Tom Brady could be a 45-year-old Super Bowl champ.
That's a thing that could happen.
Right. We could have the Bills win their first Super Bowl ever
during this just absolutely insane, emotional DeMar Hamlin week.
And you know he'll probably be there at the playoff game, I would guess.
Either one of the next couple,
and he's going to be such a big part of this whole run.
That would be the most emotional angle for a variety of reasons.
We could have Bosa versus Bosa.
Chargers,
Chargers,
Niners.
You and I bet on the Chargers.
What do we get?
12 to one for AFC.
And then we didn't talk about this,
but,
but,
uh,
Oh,
I had this for the Groundhog Day Awards.
Every week,
18,
there's some coach that defies the player starters thing and everybody gets
mad.
Same argument every week. There's arguments for and against it, Every week 18, there's some coach that defies the player starters thing and everybody gets mad.
Same argument every week.
There's arguments for and against it,
but Staley does it with the Chargers,
and of course, Mike Williams gets hurt. Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
I see what you're saying.
Which hurt our 12-1.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
It's not great.
It's not great.
I still like them at that spot.
Me too.
I have no regrets on the 12-1.
So we got that with Bosa versus Bosa.
We have the Jerry Jones finally.
That's the storyline.
If you could sum it up in four in a row.
Same thing for Cincy.
Cincy's never won.
Contract year Lamar.
If they pulled off round one,
he gets momentum in round two.
That could be really fun.
If the Chargers got to the Super Bowl, two straight LA Super Bowls would be super weird.
Oh, that's good.
I'm sorry.
I was just thinking with Lamar.
How much would you have to pay a guy who may not ever play again?
He announces it, too.
He's like, look, we can go to arbitration.
I'm never going to play again, but I know I'm worth like $33 million a year.
They kept him out.
All that stuff about Cincinnati and the coin flip and everything,
it never mattered because he wasn't going to play.
I just don't think he's, I don't know.
We'll get to the lines, but that guy is not ready either.
There's some bad buzz about him not staying there.
I've heard from some pretty reliable people that it just seems like there's a separation coming.
The Watson thing became this Black Swan event, right?
We talked about this with the Gobert trade in the NBA.
It's the same thing where it just completely discombobulated
a couple teams.
Anyway, yeah, we could have two LA champions in back-to-back years, which would be hilarious is same thing where it's just like completely discombobulated a couple teams anyway uh yeah
we could have two la champions and back-to-back years which would be hilarious because everybody
who lives in la nobody roots for either of the la teams except how many rams or chargers fans do you
know no i i didn't know anyone who went to i think i knew one person who went to last week's game
when they played each other i mean that is so sad i know our friend Nathan Hubbard. His son is a huge
Rams fan. Yeah.
Jackson. So I got him.
That's it.
They're doing it for Jackson.
That's basically, they built the stadium for Jackson.
I feel like Mina Kimes is a closet Chargers
fan. Oh, okay.
Yeah, like closet.
That's it. I don't really know any Rams or Chargers
fans.
Oh,
and one more fun storyline.
And it's set up.
There's some,
there's a day ball,
Brian day ball.
Um,
like kind of Parcells 2.0 possibility.
If he goes in and beats Minnesota and then,
you know,
round two,
then they would play Philly, right?
Goes into Philly.
Philly hasn't really had hurts for a month.
They're a little more banged up than you think.
They played them well the last couple of years,
a couple of times.
I guarantee if I'm the Eagles,
I'm so much rather wanting to play Tampa or Dallas
than the Giant, that weird Giants team.
I would not want to see them and they could somehow get,
and also we talk about the Niners choke.
Yeah.
And then we,
we all,
we talk about all the time.
The giant should absolutely despise the Eagles,
right?
Like trading,
trading right before the giants pick to get the receiver they wanted
sitting,
uh,
Jalen hurts and kicking the giants out of the playoffs against
Washington.
So yeah,
there's that part of it too.
I think I ranked my coaches just out of curiosity
to see who I thought the best coach left was.
I think he's the best coach.
I really do.
I think he was incredible this year.
That roster was garbage.
And he lifted guys.
He made guys better.
He turned people into stuff that nobody expected. He rejuvenated guys.
I just would not want to see that guy in a playoff game.
And I can't wait to find out what the Vikings line is
because I sent you my guess,
but I'm not sure.
And then I had a category for
I think I'm good.
I think I'm good with this. Francesa came out against... I think I'm good. I think I'm good with this.
Francesa came out against...
I think I'm good.
You're over it, you mean?
Steve Kornacki doing the playoff percentages.
I think I'm good.
He's a nice guy.
I agreed with Francesa's tweet, though.
Once we get into week 18 where it's like there's three scenarios left,
I don't need somebody at a board frantically pointing out stuff.
It's like, all right, so if the Packers win, they're in, and if they don't win, Seattle's in. I don't need somebody at a board frantically pointing out stuff. It's like, all right, so if the Packers win,
they're in. If they don't win, Seattle's in.
I don't need you at the board.
Definitely didn't need them this week to tell us
that the Chargers-Jaguars
is 50-50.
What are we going to do with that information?
What if it's even 50-50?
Just use a fucking gambling line.
If we didn't guess the lines,
I'm like, oh, what do you have for Bill's Dolphins? I have Bill's
90-10. What language are we
talking? They kept them on a week too long.
I agree. But in general, maybe we
shouldn't be agreeing with Francesca's tweets
too much. We'll make the exception.
I think I'm good with the NFL's
DQ rule.
Today in the Carolina-Norwens
game, Dante Foreman and Davenport,
they got mad at each other
and then hit each other in the helmet. It was
harmless. They're like, you're out. You're both out.
Soccer has yellow cards.
In high school soccer, if you get a yellow card,
you have to leave the field for a play
and come back in. It just seems like
maybe you get ejected for a quarter or a half,
or there's a time limit.
In hockey, it's five minutes, ten minutes.
Does Dante Foreman have to get kicked out of that game?
There's only 17 games.
People are betting on this.
These are reasons to kick guys out.
And they say, if you ask why they do that,
well, we don't want brawls.
We don't want full-scale brawls.
Football, miraculously, has the least of that.
Soccer has more.
Hockey has it, obviously.
Even baseball, you see the fat pitchers running out.
Then by the time they get to the mound, it's over.
But football does a great job.
I think these guys are just too exhausted to brawl.
So to make a statement and to set an example
of a player
is kind of dumb.
It just doesn't even make sense.
I have two more.
I think I'm good.
Do you have any?
I think I'm good.
Anything sticking in your crowd?
Let me think about it.
I couldn't.
Well, think about it.
I'll give you this next one.
Okay, go ahead.
Give me your one more.
Yep.
ESPN comes
game yesterday,
halftime,
five people, two and a half minutes.
It's 2023. How are we still doing this? How do we have five people at a halftime show? That's
150 seconds. What kind of, what kind of entertainment are we expecting? And then
during it, they throw it at Adam Schefter. So it's really six people. What are we expecting?
We need six people for three minutes of content?
How about two?
I mean, I guess the fear would be you go the other way and you're in that Jason Garrett, Tony Dungy,
what the hell is going on situation.
But do we need five?
We don't need five.
If not, none of them are going to talk gambling.
I don't need, we don't need five.
I'm not just saying that because that's what we do.
But we don't imagine five in this day and age
and we're not talking gambling
and barely talking
fantasy at this point. Ridiculous.
My last one is
Prince Harry. Oh, yeah.
Shoot this guy to the sun.
I'm so tired of this guy. What
does he bring to the table? He just whines
about shit. He keeps giving interviews.
Who gives a shit? Who cares
about your life? You weren't even like
the favorite son. The other guy was the king.
You're like the fucking Fredo.
Our wives care.
Our wives care about them.
They don't even care.
Does your wife care about Prince Harry?
Nobody cares about this.
He had a fucking eight episode Netflix show.
What did we find out?
Yeah.
I'm with you.
Yeah, that's enough.
I can't stand him.
So tired.
I'm so embarrassed that I fucking have to share Spotify with him.
The guy sucks. Did you? Oh, you don't have to share with anybody. Didn't they'm so embarrassed that I fucking have to share Spotify with him. The guy sucks.
Did you?
Oh, you don't have to share with anybody.
Didn't they tell you?
You don't have to share.
Oh, I don't?
I get to keep it.
Yeah, you're right.
No, you're good.
You get to share with him.
I don't have to share with him.
By the way, the news is just coming in.
It's embarrassing that he's on our platform.
He's replacing Kornacki, Prince Harry.
That's not good.
We don't want that.
It'll be the first productive thing he did.
What does he do?
It's one of those things where it's like, what's your talent?
Why are we listening to you? What's your talent? So you were born in a royal family and then you did. What does he do? It's one of those things where it's like, what's your talent? Why are we listening to you?
What's your talent?
So you were born in a royal family and then you left.
What are you good at?
Yeah, he didn't do anything there.
And now he's going to come here and do nothing.
Yeah, you live in fucking Montecito and you sell documentaries and podcasts
and nobody cares what you have to say about anything
unless you talk about the royal family.
You just complain about them.
He's got a book. What did he write a book about honestly he's the worst all right
let's take a break and then we'll do uh we'll do guess the lines
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Okay, so they screwed us with Guest Alliance when they added this Monday game.
Right, for the next week, yeah.
Because we had to come on Sunday night and only five of the six games would be decided.
They weren't thinking about us, Sal.
I don't know why.
They didn't have us in mind with this new schedule.
Well, they kind of did.
Well, first of all, I'm delighted to not have to.
You're not going to have this over me.
Like, yeah, you just lost.
Cowboys, talk, boy.
You're not going to have that moment.
But it's a 4-5, so we'll know the matchups.
We'll be able to pick lines next week, right?
Even without knowing that result.
We'll just have no idea what's happening.
Okay. First game.
Saturday. The Shakey's Bowl.
We weren't expecting Geno
Smith to crash the party holding a large
pepperoni pizza. No. But here he
is. Geno Smith, Brock
Purdy. The
50th annual Shakey's Bowl.
It is in San Francisco.
I think it's double digits and I probably went too low
I guess 10.5 Niners
you said 10.5?
yeah
alright you get it I said 9
I was going to say 9.5 it's 10
it's exactly 10
Gino is going to try to steal all the Mojo potatoes
from underneath us, but we can't let it happen.
It's a playoff team.
Normally you say, let's throw them in a three-team tease
and then I get mad at you and remind you that
three-team teases, we usually lose.
It's a bad idea.
I am throwing the Niners in a three-team tease.
I think there is such a talent disparity
between those two teams.
Even the Seattle fans can't believe they're in the playoffs
like honestly they can't believe it
they barely beat Baker Mayfield
and this Rams team that didn't have
Aaron Donald or Cooper Cup and they were home
and they barely won they were losing
in the fourth quarter or tied
whatever
I just think that's a three teamer
what an incredible spot for the Niners look I just ranked that's a three-teamer. What an incredible spot for the Niners.
Look, I just ranked them number one in my power ranking.
I have to take them.
Forget about three-team tees.
I have to take them minus 10.
I don't think the Seahawks are in this game.
I don't think they've looked impressive at all.
They beat the Jets.
We learned that Mike White had seven broken ribs.
Brock Purdy is the real deal.
He's got some juice, and he's got some not playoff experience,
but I'll take him over Geno Smith.
That's for sure.
I like this.
This is a crushing, I think.
That's a really tough spot.
It's too bad.
It's too bad that's the matchup.
I think the Niners-Detroit would have been a good game.
I think the Niners would have won,
but I actually think the Niners,
they would have had to at least work for that one.
Sure.
With that said, we see every year in the playoffs
that nobody believes in us as the most powerful factor in sports.
I just don't know if Seattle has enough talent to even qualify
for nobody believes in us.
Next week, they'll be.
Not this week.
You might be better off to just take all favorites this week,
but we'll go over them.
The Saturday night game is Chargers-Jags.
It's in Jacksonville.
It is going to be a week of hearing about Herbert and Lawrence,
two of the best young quarterbacks in the league,
two tall guys, two tall guys that can run,
two kind of weirdly unusual-looking quarterbacks.
They have their distinct look.
They don't really look like any other quarterbacks we've seen.
I didn't think Lawrence was good
in that Titans game. I thought he
left a lot of throws and plays on the table.
He made a couple, but for the most part, I thought he
was... Didn't you think he was pretty shaky in that
Tennessee game? Yeah, well, I
know you had the Jaguars, but I
thought Dobbs was better than Lawrence.
Lawrence was over three quarters.
Wasn't solid. They told us that Josh Dobbs was better than Lawrence. Yeah, Lawrence was over three quarters. Wasn't solid.
And, you know, they told us that Josh Dobbs is smart.
And he did play smart.
I mean, they mentioned it like six times at telecast.
He's an aerospace engineer major, right?
But then I feel like they shouldn't do that because then you make a stupid throw.
And everyone's like, oh, why is this smart guy making a stupid throw?
It's the Jason Garrett Princeton thing.
I was like, I'll never send my kid
to Princeton now because Jason Garrett
went there. I'd rather be like a dumb...
Wouldn't you rather be like, yeah, he graduated
University of Phoenix. Well, surprisingly
wise move to get rid of the ball
there, but I don't know.
I didn't think Lawrence was great. I thought Vrabel
played a physical game and
it just...
I think this is good value.
Maybe we make a lot of money Saturday.
I said Saturday sucks.
We'll go over the line here,
but I think there's a lot of good value
with the Chargers right now.
So Dobbs, I had the Jacksonville Jaguars
in the tees in million dollar picks in real life
and really started to get freaked out about Dobbs
about halfway through the third quarter
because he just wasn't making mistakes.
He had the long pick on the bomb, right?
Where it's like, whatever, that's kind of like a punt.
His big mistake, he got strip sacked,
and they were like, he should have seen that coming.
I'm like, I don't know, should he?
Like, he's back to pass, who knows.
The big mistake was the fourth and 17.
Not that they're going to get that anyway,
but he did the classic David Carr check down to the guy who got tackled five yards in front of the marker on fourth and 17. Not that they're going to get that anyway, but he did the classic David Carr check down
to the guy who got tackled five yards
in front of the marker on fourth and 17.
That's literally the only thing you can't
do. You have to throw it over the marker and
maybe get a PI or
just lob it to Burks, hope something happens.
I was at a bar on the
strip sack play, so I couldn't
hear what was being said, but I just saw that
the Jaguars took over.
I'm pretty convinced after seeing that now 15 times that his,
he had,
it's one of those things where they hit the ball,
but he still continues his motion.
He's got the ball at the,
when he hits the apex and he throws that damn ball forward.
Like,
how did they not,
I guess they reviewed it for three seconds,
but I've seen that called incomplete 90% this year.
I don't know.
Maybe it's because I'm with you.
They,
it seemed like the ball separated from his hand by like a one eighth of an
inch.
And I think that's,
as soon as the ball isn't attached to your hand for a split second,
it becomes a fumble,
even though there's a throwing motion,
but you're right.
Like,
how is that?
You think like,
even though he threw it,
it shouldn't be much different than like the tuck rule call with Brady or
like the Patriots game today where we had a touchdown,
the guy face guarded.
Um,
I think it was Jacoby Myers and then hit him before he caught it.
And they're like,
no,
that's a good play.
I'm like,
I watch football every week.
That's a pass interference nine out of ten times. That time it wasn't.
So there is no rhyme or reason to have this stuff.
Yeah.
I have the Chargers favored by three, and I wish that's what I sent you.
I wish I had said three and a half, but I said Chargers by three.
Oh, do you want to change it?
I'll let you change it.
No, I don't want to.
I'll let you change it.
It's a new year.
I had three also.
It's only one and a half.
I think it was two and a half, and also. It's only one and a half.
I think it was two and a half and it went down now
to one and a half.
But either way,
we both had three.
Wow.
Now they got crushed
the first time.
They played them week two
and the Jaguars just
ate them up
in so far.
But who cares?
It's never a home game
for the Chargers anyway.
I really like them this week.
Yeah.
If you're making the case for the Jags, you have
to be concerned Lawrence didn't look that good
in basically a
playoff game. They didn't run the ball at
all.
Peterson always does two things
that just make me uncomfortable.
Just fourth
downs, it's like, why here? Why are you doing
this?
I just think the Chargers are better. And we've, I mean, as I said earlier, we've already bet on them to win the AFC. So I don't, I obviously know where we're leaning on this one. I think
that line should be three. Maybe this is our third team in that teaser plus eight and a half.
And why do we have to freak out here and just take all winners? We'll stay within
a touchdown. Well, I'll tell you this.
If Mike Williams isn't
going to play, I feel differently.
Because it feels like
there's two different teams. When he's out there
and then it just seems like they have weapons
everywhere at all times and it just seems like
Eckhart's better and you
can go around. Allen's running better, it
seems like.
But then you remove him. Why did they play? better and you can go around. Allen's running better, it seems like. Right.
But then you remove him.
Why did they play?
Why did they play?
They were a five no matter what as soon as the Ravens lost.
So I've heard some people talk about this because they took away all these padded practices.
It's really like their only chance to run around and hit some people for the coaches.
So I think that's why we're seeing in these last
weeks of the season now, people are a little more
brazen about who plays.
But with Mike Williams, I would put that
guy in fucking bubble wrap because he gets hurt all the time.
I wouldn't want him out there.
You know who's
injury prone and who's not. So you have to
pad up whenever you can on your
own. I would have sat him and I would
have sat Keenan Allen.
Cause it just,
it seems like every game where he doesn't pull something is a miracle at this point. All right, let's go to Sunday.
I still think this should have been the shakiest game. Bill's Dolphins.
It's in Buffalo. Obviously we have no idea who the Miami quarterback is going
to be, but I really hope it's not Tua. I went 13 and a half
because of the
Niners-Bills three-teamer thing.
And I just feel like they bump,
once it gets past like 11, 12,
they bump this so that
you really have to think about it
if you're putting the team in the three-teamer.
So I went Bills 13 and a half.
It all makes sense,
but I think it's also why we need to stop recording now
and put the teaser in because it's 10.5.
I said 11, so I get that one.
Whoa.
Yeah, but I think you're right.
I think it could go to 13 and screw us there.
And I think the Niners could move off 10.
I think our three-teamer is right there, right there staring at us,
and we could have most of the weekend to just enjoy the other three games.
But the Bills should kill them.
The only thing that worries me
with the Dolphins is Mostert
is running the shit
out of the ball lately. I thought he was excellent
today in that Jets game. He was like the only good
thing they had. And I
think you can run on the Bills.
The Pats move the ball on
the bills that whole game. Like I don't think the bills defense is that good. Somebody is going to
go in there and give them trouble. I just don't think it's the quarterback that I watched today.
And if Tua comes back, which I just, I again would think that would be a massive mistake, but
man, I almost wish they could just sign Josh Dobbs.
Just,
I mean,
he's,
he's so smart.
He could just pick up their offense.
That's true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think it could be Skylar Thompson.
I just don't think he's an NFL quarterback.
So I don't know really what you do.
Well,
man,
he's so smart.
I thought maybe he could telepathically send signals to Skylar Thompson and
make them better.
They can hire Dobbs as a consultant.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think just best case scenario, though, it's like, what is it?
Like 23-13 in the fourth, and then you need Thompson to score.
Then you might get screwed on the spread, but I don't see this guy keeping up.
It looked like Hill was banged up in the game today, too.
Yeah, he came out.
They took him out at one point, and he doesn't seem like he's running the same
like he was earlier in the season.
So I think you're catching the Dolphins at a great time.
The team has not played well.
That Jets game was embarrassing
because Flacco and, you know,
the Jets were missing their whole offensive line.
Flacco was just in distress
and couldn't do anything.
He was missing poor Garrett Wilson.
Garrett Wilson, get that dude a therapist in the offseason
after all the terrible throws he saw this year.
But they were almost better off giving the Dolphins the ball.
There were a couple of situations where they would have been third and eight
instead of third and 18.
It was like, this is probably better for them to just hand off
and then pump back to the Dolphins
and hope Skyler
Thompson gives them something.
But this is another mismatch.
I think Niner Seahawks and Bill's
Dolphins are like real
mismatches.
In the old days where we had big
disparities in the lines when it was
16 playoffs, the teams were still
pretty good that were in the playoffs. These teams
I don't think are playoff teams.
No, I'm with you.
Well, it's because they added one and they almost added another.
That would have been a terrible, like I would have been okay.
And obviously, you know, the Hamlin, like, all right, however they want to handle it,
it's secondary.
But the one thing that would have really been like, huh, that's awful is adding an eighth
playoff team.
And that got some traction like up until the last day.
So, you know, that would have been bad.
Imagine an eighth playoff team having imagine the Jaguars having just as much advantage as the Chiefs.
Like nobody gets a bye.
That'd be ridiculous.
So, yeah, there's some bad teams.
Hopefully they go away this week.
Yeah.
All right.
Second Sunday game is a good one and
I am just
I'm bringing in
Michael Conrad
from Hill Street Blues
and doing the
let's be careful out there
because
I just think
everybody's gonna have
the Giants this week
in Minnesota
it is
it's the obvious pick
nobody's gonna be
making a case
for Minnesota
this
this game
hits 17 red flags in my playoff manifesto.
We'll see what the line is.
I guessed it's in Minnesota.
I guessed Vikings by two and a half.
I almost went one and a half.
And then I was like, wait a second.
Danny Dimes, come on.
It's got to be at least two and a half.
So Vikings two and a half.
What is it?
So this is weird, right?
Because the Giants are a team that got screwed by Vegas all year.
They'd get points from Washington when they were home.
And Minnesota the same way.
What were they giving?
Three to the Colts in that crazy game.
So you're like, oh, man, Vegas and the odds makers just hate these teams.
I went higher.
I thought it would be four.
It's three.
So you get it.
It's right there at three.
I don't know if it moves either, honestly.
I think it moves to two and a half I think they're going to
try to convince people
to take the Vikings
and all week
whatever podcast
radio show you're listening
I'll tell you what
I like the Giants
my underdog pick
is the Giants
that's just going to be
the sexy team
they'll get 80% of the bets
and we have watched this with this garbage Vikings team all year.
They just have a knack.
Now, the one thing is if they're missing both of their centers
and they're on their third string center, that's not nothing.
And also, as we've said, I do like this Giants team.
I think they're hard to play.
I was excited if they were potentially going to San Francisco
because I think that would have been a hard game for San Francisco
because the Giants are so weird.
But I'm going to end up taking the Giants,
and I'm going to hate myself when the Vikings win by four.
I'm just telling you now.
Well, one of us will be happy,
because I think I'm going to take the Vikings.
And it really is hypocritical,
because for months and months, we're like,
oh, this is an awful team,
and they have a minus plus 19 differential,
even though they're 12 and two, whatever they were, 12 and three.
It's a disgraceful.
I kind of like them now.
I don't know.
I think it's because I'm looking at the slate.
There's so many worst playoff teams.
And I know I'm not going to be right about everything.
Yeah, I think the Vikings, I'm not going to say got hot at the right time, but they got a little less bad than a team with a record should have.
Even day ball today in that Eagles game, which they should have lost by 30. And there was like a record should have. Even day ball today in that Eagles
game, which they should have lost by 30,
and it was like a one-score game.
What's happening? They're trying to lose.
How are they now? But they can't
help themselves.
I'm very nervous of that game,
and I'm nervous about
the amount of money I'm going to put on the Giants.
No, we don't have to bet every game. That's the one.
I think there's clear winners in every game. I'm going to put on the Giants. No, we don't have to bet every game. That's the one. I think there's clear winners in every game.
I'm going to end up teasing the Niners, Bills, and the Giants
is what's going to end up happening.
Oh, boy.
Oh, no.
All right.
You do what you want.
You're on your own, pal.
I did really well today.
You did, right?
I did well.
How have you not announced?
I was on it today.
You were texting me about our, I told you that
guy Chris Haynes is a super fan
and I met him this week in Vegas.
He kept track of all of our
over-unders and everything
and you smoked me.
Well, I had the greatest over-under
year of my life. We should tell the listeners
because they heard that pod. So Sal and I, before
the season, we did our over-under
podcast and we picked every game
and we did the overs. Now some of them there's bigs, right? It's like minus 40, minus 150. So
we always feel like we should go 18 and 14 at least, right? Because there's some juice.
That's what I was, right? Yeah.
No, you went 18, 13 and one, but we had some bad luck. Like the chargers. I think that we had the chargers,
the air over was 10 and then I'm hitting the over. Exactly. I went 24, seven and one.
Pretty good. It's unbelievable. It's easily the best I've ever done. I've had some 20 and 12s.
And I think I met even at a 21 and 21 and a whatever, 11 once, but not that.
Well, that's not even the best part. Mention your locks.
I'm giving you a good couple minutes
here. Yeah, thank you.
I went 7-0
on my locks. That's incredible.
That's pretty good.
I had... Let me see.
I had...
It doesn't have to be this long.
I had the Pats.
Pats under 8.5 was a lock.
Cincy over 9.5.
Cleveland under 8.5.
Casey over 10.5.
Philly over 9.5.
Minnesota over 9.5.
And Arizona under 8.5, which was our favorite bet.
And then one of the big bets we did in real life
was Casey to make the playoffs, Arizona to miss the playoffs, which we clin favorite bet. And then one of the big bets we did in real life was KC to make the playoffs
Arizona to miss the playoffs, which we clinched
in like week 11.
So I had a really good future year
and then the season was pretty
mixed. It was pretty up and down
because it kept getting
sucked into stupid shit like the Tampa Green
Bay team. That's it.
That was the killer.
We did the over-unders. Yeah, that was good.
Let me tell a quick story
about Vegas. I have tickets for the
Vikings to make the playoffs
and the Cardinals to not make the
playoffs.
When I cash these, it's like $900.
I'm like,
it's Saturday. I know the season's not
over. They may give me a hard time, even though the Vikings
have made the playoffs and the Cardinals have not made the playoffs. I go and I tell the guy. It's no. I know the season's not over. They may give me a hard time, even though the Vikings have made the playoffs and the Cardinals have not made the playoffs.
So I go and I tell the guy, and it's no one who we do business with,
so it's fine.
So I go to the desk and I say, hey, I don't know, you haven't graded this yet,
but can you put this through and see what happens?
The Vikings to make the playoffs.
He's like, well, we're not paying this out.
The Vikings didn't make the playoffs.
And I said, well, they did. They made the playoffs. But if you're not paying it
out, I can wait till Monday. I just didn't want to go to the ATM. He's like, the Vikings did not
make the playoffs because there are no playoffs. And then the guy next to him is like, no, they
made it. He's just, look, we haven't graded it yet. I'm like, I understand. He's like, okay,
well then don't come here because they didn't make the play. I said, listen to me. I don't want you to sound uninformed when someone like me comes up to you in the next
two days.
The Vikings made the damn playoffs.
I could show you a thousand articles from three weeks ago.
You could say the playoffs haven't started yet and we haven't great.
He's like, don't you tell me I'm uninformed.
This guy's yelling at me now.
And my wife and Melissa is like, oh, all right, let's get out of here.
I'm like, so you can be damn sure.
I hope he's there.
I'm going to wait until he's working.
I might even have to stay here an extra week so I could cash.
My Vikings made the playoffs ticket right in front of his slimy face.
There you go.
Oh,
that's fantastic.
Yeah.
Well,
there was another,
one of the things was this Bengals overbet that the casinos and whoever had to decide
by their honor,
because when you bet the future,
you bet the over-unders.
There's a thing in there that's like every game in the schedule has to be
played.
The Bengals had already had the over.
They were 11 and four when the bills game got canceled.
So it opened the door for somebody said,
no,
see the fine print.
But it seemed like most casinos honored it,
but they should.
That's stupid.
It's like,
well, they went 16-0.
Yeah, but they didn't play 17 games.
Their over-under was 10-1. What?
Just do the math.
It's the same world where
instead of 3-2 blackjack,
they decide that it's 6-5.
They make their rules, whatever
I want. Anyway.
All right. Two more games. Bengals-Ravens,
actually.
Yeah. Yeah.
Tough one because
I assume Lamar will play, but we have no
idea. Ridiculous.
What he's going to be physically.
Thought it was very strange that they just
scratched Huntley.
It's almost like they didn't want to show Cincy anything this
week.
I went Bengals by six in Cincinnati.
Yeah, so you beat me.
You get it exactly.
I said seven.
I think it should be higher.
What have we seen out of Baltimore?
It's the same thing as the Dolphins situation, right?
I'm not sure that even with a fresh Lamar Jackson
that this team can stay with a touchdown.
Are you?
It reminds me of that Jacksonville-Tinus Sea line,
which was also six, where, yeah, no, they should.
And then it's like, we've seen the Ravens do this,
where it's like, if you're going to beat them,
it's 13-9 in the fourth quarter.
It's 12-10.
It's 16-13, 12 to 10.
It's 16, 13.
They always like hang around for three quarters.
And I think, I think they factor that in with these lines where once you get past seven
and the Ravens are up three in the fourth quarter,
you know, you've already lost the bet.
Right.
So that was, that was my guess.
I was trying to figure out like,
would I feel comfortable laying anything more than six with the Bengals?
And that was why I picked six.
Because once you get to seven, I don't know.
But I could also see them winning by 30.
I think you're really good.
I'm going against the green with the Chiefs and Bills,
and I'm taking the Bengals and Chargers to win the AFC.
I think the Bengals are just a tough, tough AFC North ball
and have great skill position players all around.
I mean, that's exactly what you would
want, right? In a team in January or any month.
I think they're clicking now.
I think it's wide open
because I do think
you can move the ball on the bills
and Allen does still have like these two
or three throws per game that are just
like, yeah, what's going
on there.
And Romo,
Romo was saying during the broadcast,
he felt like his arm looked better,
but I don't know.
He had a couple of wing.
He,
he winged it a couple of times.
So he definitely has more arm strength than he had.
Right.
I think it's wide open.
I agree with him.
The Bengals,
I think they're right there with the cheats and the bills.
I think it's the three of them.
And then the chargers is the wild card,
but I don't,
and we bet that chargers cause we like the odds. Yeah. I think it's the three of them. And then the Chargers is the wild card, but I don't. And we bet that Chargers
because we like the odds.
Yeah.
But if there's no Mike Williams,
I don't feel great about that.
Anyway.
All right.
Here we go.
The big one.
Monday Night Football,
Buck and Aikman.
Cowboys at Tampa.
So,
did we figure this out?
How many times did you play Tampa?
1980, that was it what other
Cowboys Bucks
playoff games
that's it
yeah I didn't
I didn't find any others
yeah
I think you're favored
I said Cowboys
by two and a half
yeah so this is
what
it's so funny
because we knew
like since week
six this was going to be
a playoff game
this was going to be a four or five matchup and like i said we grew the line we thought it'd be about
six six and a half dac was not good uh brady connected with evans three times and then he
did whatever he had to today i mean to set a completion record for all his great years and
he said or write his own um a personal record today is absurd. I still kept it at three
and it is three.
Hmm.
You think that goes down
your way?
Yeah, let's...
I do.
I think it goes to two and a half
because...
And I think it should...
I personally think
it should stay three,
but I think Brady's
going to be worth a half point
as the week goes on.
Right?
And you start thinking about all the times
they pulled these games out of their assholes.
You think about Mike McCarthy,
how many games he's excreted from his asshole
and the Cowboys in general.
And then Dak, do we trust them?
And on and on and on.
And then Tampa being home.
And, you know, if there's going to be a home dog this week,
it's either them or the Jags.
I would lean toward Tampa.
But I don't think Tampa's a good team.
I think they've been better than they were,
but I certainly don't think they're a good team.
It would be a pretty catastrophic loss for the Cowboys to lose that Tampa team.
Yeah, this is bad.
This is bad.
I mean, I'd much rather have caught them like three weeks ago.
As inconsistent as Dak is playing.
That's when you want the Tampa.
But this would be a bad loss.
This is, you know, I don't think.
A bad loss?
This would be a catastrophe.
What are you talking about?
I don't think anybody trusts Brady enough to get this off a three.
I think it stays right at three. And they better win this damn game. I know. think anybody trusts Brady enough to get this off of three. I think it stays right at three.
And they better win this damn game.
I know. It is a catastrophe. I'm trying to downplay
it already. I think at least
the scenario is set up now that
if you lose the game, coming off
how you finished the season,
McCarthy will get fired and you'll hire
Sean Payton. Really? That's what will happen.
Wow. Yeah.
Oh, then good. I hope we lose by three
touchdowns.
That's a good question. Turn the TikTok camera
on, Kyle. Would you intentionally
lose this game so you could have Sean Peyton
as a coach? Yes.
Well, we're not going to win the Super Bowl anyway, so yeah.
I want Sean Peyton over McCarthy.
He's not going anywhere. Jerry kept
Garrett around forever
and this guy, McCarthy's got like what?
24 wins.
How many wins in the last two years?
It just don't,
they just don't do it there.
Yeah.
I kind of rooted against the Pats today.
You should have.
I wanted us to get a top 15 pick.
I don't think we're a playoff team.
I thought we were horribly coached.
I thought we were,
there was no way in hell
we were beating Buffalo two weeks in a row
in a million years.
It was never happening.
And I thought for the sake of
the long-term future of the franchise,
it was probably better if we lost the game
and came to the grips of the fact
that we were an 8-9 team
and we needed to kind of rehaul some stuff.
Right.
I thought you were going to say
because of Buffalo and the emotion
and everything else
and your junk team
doesn't need to make the playoffs,
but that's all right.
Well, that was there too.
I mean, the kickoff return
was pretty great.
Yeah.
That was pretty emotional.
I thought it sounded like
Romo got choked up.
I know.
I know.
It was weird.
Did you think you were going
to lose by 70 there?
I did.
When that happened,
it was like,
oh my God,
this is going to be like 60 to nothing.
But in a weird way,
playing downhill,
there was so much emotion after the kick return that,
um,
I think it kind of helped the Pats.
It was like,
yeah,
it was just such an amazing moment.
It was kind of hard to keep playing football after that.
That really was incredible.
Yeah.
Um,
I think,
feel like Camlin will be at the game next week or the week after,
would be my guess.
Because it seems like he's recovered really well already.
Absolutely.
And I think either that or they pop him up on the Jumbotron or something.
They'll just get some excitement in that building either way.
Incredible story.
Jesus.
When we went to dinner on Tuesday, we had no idea what was going to happen.
By Friday, he was tweeting.
It's just crazy.
Power of human spirit.
It really is. How much, wow,
just when you think Skip Bayless could get fired.
Oh, no. I know what you're saying.
That's the other side of it.
Where do we think, let's guess where these lines
are going to end up.
Niners, Seahawks.
I think that ends up at 11.5. half yeah that'll go up a little bit yeah Chargers Jags I think gets to two and a half
maybe Chargers three if Mike Williams is healthy but probably the two two and a half range right
I'm I'm very surprised because I said it opened on two and a half and it's one and a half now so
either somebody knows something Mike Williams is out already,
they know, even though that might not be a point.
Just stay off three.
I love the Chargers.
Well, Mike Williams' Twitter searching today,
there was a tweet about how he was being helped to the bus after the game.
That didn't seem awesome.
He couldn't walk to the bus on his own.
He's not an old lady.
Yeah, that's not great.
If it was my dad, it would be one thing.
Bill's Dolphins, I think that gets to 13.
I really do.
I think that there's no way by the weekend
that we're not at 13 with that game.
They do not want us putting that in 13 teases.
It's so right in the middle though, right?
Is that line assuming that Tua is going to play?
Because like I said, if it's Skylar Thompson,
it should be two touchdowns.
If Tua plays, I genuinely feel like that's irresponsible,
especially after what we just went through on Monday.
You're going to put a guy who's had three concussions
on a football field.
I personally don't want to watch that.
I agree with you on that. I'll watch it,
but I won't feel good about it.
I think they make the call Tuesday, too.
I think they're like, he's not playing.
Put the fucking guy out for the year. Just do it.
Why are we letting this linger?
He said three concussions.
Have Kristen Winski just talk to Kristen Winski for three minutes
about this. Kristen Winski would be like,
please don't play this guy again.
He's going to have permanent brain damage.
Don't do it.
You have to spread the concussions out,
and three is too many for a career, let alone nine weeks.
Seriously.
Vikings-Giants.
I think that ends at two and a half.
What do you think?
No.
You say three.
Yeah, this is a three.
It's a solid three.
Bengals Ravens.
If Lamar's playing, I could see drifting to like Ravens plus five and a half.
Yeah.
Ravens plus five.
Kind of Vegas.
Yeah, maybe.
So this is.
So how many quarterbacks are we waiting for?
Yeah, because I normally probably would have said five and a half.
How many?
So one, two.
Is it just two?
It's just two quarterbacks.
Two.
Yeah.
For these games.
And whether Dak's going to show up for the season.
I guess two and a half quarterbacks.
Yeah, we got to see if Cooper Rush is available.
They'll announce Thursday.
Available to start.
And then Cowboys, you think three.
I think it ends at two and a half.
Yeah.
I think Brady gets a half point bump.
And then next year,
Brady's on Vegas.
You think he's here for sure,
huh?
No,
I,
I,
I don't think he's on Tampa.
Yeah.
I think there's,
I still feel like there's a jet scenario that people aren't taking seriously.
Yeah.
I don't think the Pats can be ruled out,
but I certainly wouldn't make them the favorites.
Vegas, he's got his kids on the East Coast and anyone I've ever asked about it
just seems slightly unrealistic.
And then the Carolina or New Orleans,
if it's Sean Payton,
if he's attached to Sean Payton,
I don't know why Sean Payton would take the Carolina job.
The New Orleans thing, Brady going to New Orleans
would just be weird.
It seems like just a sideways move.
I don't even know what the benefit of that is.
Yeah, I think
the people would be excited for him here
in Vegas. I'm here in Vegas. I went to the
Raiders game, the Raiders Chiefs game,
and it was 75-25 red. I'm here in Vegas. I went to the Raiders game, the Raiders Chiefs game, and it was
75-25 red.
I saw that.
They need something to turn that around.
Obviously, they can't be as terrible as
they've been, but
it's a great stadium.
Whatever fans are there, we just want to root
for the team.
We all went, like a bunch of us,
like eight of us, and we had really bad seats.
When the ball was on the other side of the field, it was like
watching from the top of the building
guys doing construction six blocks
away. It really is like
a soccer. Have you been to the stadium?
Yeah, I went there for wrestling. I thought it was cool.
It's weird where it's located because
they made it basically impossible to get to
even though the strip's right next to it.
Yeah, you got to walk a mile to Mandalay Bay.
Yeah, like, why wasn't there a little underground train
that went right to the thing?
They didn't do any of that stuff.
But I thought it was a pretty cool stadium.
Yeah, I liked it a lot.
All right, we're going to take a break.
Come back, we'll do Parent Corner,
and you got to tell us a couple of Vegas stories.
Do you want me to read some reviews of prince harry's book or no yeah of course are they all by you he told michael strahan and good morning america about his brother there's
always been this competition between us weirdly i think it really plays into, it was always played by the air and
spare labels. It's like, yeah, the other guy's the favorite son. That's how this works when you're
in the royal family. One guy's the king and then the other guy, you're basically, if he doesn't
die, you're just kind of on the side. That's how it goes. Sorry. You're still having a pretty great
life. Nobody wants to hear you complain about stuff. I the accent i love it you gotta bring it out
you want me to do some more yeah yeah do more
uh oh he he called williams hair loss alarming
he's somehow took a shit i i don't get alarmed He's alarmed. He's alarmed. Wow, I don't know.
This is so funny.
Something must have happened.
Your wife must have been like,
she has a crush on him or something.
No, you know what it was?
My wife watched that entire Netflix show.
And it turned into a huge thing.
It was like, really?
These two?
It's like the all-time infomercial
about William and Meghan Markle.
Yeah, I watched 10 minutes.
Who's like the third lead on Suits.
They have an eight-episode Netflix series. Yeah, you're good. You can watch us alone. It'sle. Yeah, I watched 10 minutes. The third lead on Suits. They have an eight-episode Netflix series.
Yeah, you're good.
You can watch this alone.
It's fine.
Yeah.
Didn't bother me.
It's so good.
What's going on in Vegas?
Does Vegas seem normal again?
Yeah, it is.
I mean, it was packed.
We walked the Caesars shops there.
And every restaurant in there
there was like 20 people waiting
to sit. And, yeah,
it's back. I mean, a few
masks, not too many, and
just, you know,
humanity everywhere.
And, you know, I mean, the way you can tell, it's like
it's hard to find a $25 table.
Still surly
dealers, it felt like normal?
Yeah, exactly. People felt like they were rooting against you
to win three hands in a row?
Rolling their eyes and chuckling
under their breath.
Great. I can't win a
blackjack.
They could have invented a new game over
the pandemic, right?
Maybe at least go back to three to two blackjack rules
if you get a blackjack
as a little pandemic reward for us.
We get it.
I have 19.
You have seven,
five,
two,
six.
I get it already.
You and I are going to see each other this week
because
it's the 20th anniversary party
of Jimmy Kimmel Live, which in 2003,
the odds were 7,500 to one that there was going to be a 20th anniversary party.
What about just like a fifth anniversary?
It was probably, yeah.
Yeah.
I think it was, I think seven.
Yeah.
I think that's fair.
I think even Jimmy would say that.
I wish we could go back in a time machine. You and I sat next to each other in the office
and have some third person come in. Maybe Prince Harry. We give him something to do
since he can't find a job. He could come in and tell us that 20 years from now,
JKL will be celebrating its 20th anniversary. And just our reaction would have been unbelievable.
Like what? The show's going to be on 20 years?
It would have been inconceivable.
Do you think
when Andy Milonakis
was sleeping on our couch and I
jumped bare ass
onto his head, Prince
Harry would have thought that was alarming?
He definitely would have written a chapter about it
in his book about how uncouth the Americans were.
Right.
Oh, my God.
It's going to be fun.
I can't wait.
I can't wait.
There's probably 50 people you're going to want to stay away from,
and me too, but it's going to be terrific.
I can't wait.
I feel like whatever flu is going around,
all of us will get it after the party.
It's going to be awesome.
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All right.
What do you got, Sal?
All right.
So my wife came with me for the first two days of this trip, and I have two more days left.
So she's gone.
But in the first couple of days, she asked me the first night, she said, how do I put in a money line parlay for the Clippers, Mavericks, and the LA Kings?
I think those were the two.
So one hockey hockey to basketball.
And I was like,
you're way faster than this.
Yeah.
She's asking me.
And so I have all the sheets.
That's one of my favorite things is collecting those sheets,
you know,
like with futures or the dailies and everything.
I actually like tape them on the wall.
Like I'm a mad man looking through these things.
So I'm like,
all right,
look,
if you're going to go down there,
just don't,
don't drive the clerks crazy much like I did with, all right, look, if you're going to go down there, just don't drive the clerks crazy, much like I did with having them cash a couple of days earlier a team to make a playoff parlay.
But I was like, all right, so it's $51.
So you go, you say, I want $50 on the three-team parlay, $51.90, $52.17.
And she's like, okay, all right.
She's like, so how do you know?
But it's got to be Moneyline.
I don't want to bet the parlay.
I was like, what are you talking about? Where is this even coming from? She's like, well how do you know? But it's gotta be Moneyline. I don't want to bet the ball. I was like, what is it? What are you talking about? Where is this even coming from?
She's like, well, Archie wants to put in some bets. So he sent it to me, my oldest son.
I said, Archie wants to put in bets. And so he's sending you, why is he sending you? Yeah.
And she's like, well, this is kind of our thing. I said, how, since when is it your thing? It's my thing. It's exactly my
thing. Like, this is, how dare you rob me of this? Like, I don't know if, why is he, you know,
if he wanted to talk The Bachelorette or Star Wars or Prince Harry, I'd be like, yeah, your mother,
that's where you want to go to, but we're talking odds. And now you're asking me how to put it in.
He's like, well, don't get upset. He just wanted to, it's just our, she kept saying, it's our thing. And I was like, this is no longer your
thing. If he's going to be a degenerate, it's gotta be my thing with him. She's like, fine,
work it out with him. I'm like, no, no, no, you put it in. So I don't know. I don't know where
I am with this. I don't, I don't have a good feeling about it. That honestly feels like a
personal attack. Yeah. I don't even know what the equivalent is. This is our thing.
It's literally the number one thing you've cared about
since the moment I've met you over anything else.
It's your thing.
Maybe he felt like you were going to judge his bets
or maybe he just wanted to make his bets in peace
without your shadow hanging over them.
Maybe he thinks you're a mush.
Well, that would make sense.
Everything else you said.
I would definitely would judge his bets.
He ended up losing both anyway.
Oh, I'm a mush.
Shit, I'm a mush.
You're right.
You're right.
I got to talk to him about this.
I think it's the mush thing.
My parent corner,
we had my daughter's school
has this extravaganza thing where they play the rival school, Brentwood, and all the winter sports things all at the same time. We won a soccer game. We never should have won nothing, so we did our part. Her school carried the cup. It was all exciting.
Nice. Her, her boyfriend came over to me and my wife when we were waiting for the game
to start and said, Mr. Simmons and shook our hand and, and talked to us for like 45 seconds. And
then, um, was super nice and moved on. And I was like, that's how it's done. This isn't hard.
Just, just come over, just be nice, shake our hand, talk to us for a little bit, and then go do
your thing.
This is like, you know, we're trying to raise young boys, right?
There's not that many things we're telling, like I'm telling my son, like when you walk
into somebody's house and there's a dad, whether it's like your friend or it's like some girl
you're dating or whatever, you walk up to them, you shake their hand and you look them
in the eye and talk to them. And that's how you do it. It's amazing how many people don't know how
to do this. So I was thinking using parent corner today, just once in for all, I don't know what
the age group of people that listen to this are. Maybe there's some dads. This is like the very few
things you have to teach your kids, right? Like wash your sheets every once in a while, especially in college, go wash your sheets like once every three weeks. Don't eat food in your,
in your, in your bed. Don't leave plates next to your bed. Always like, that's how you're going to
get mice and ants and all that stuff. Don't do that. When you go into somebody's house
and there's a dad, go and shake his fucking hand and make eye contact with him and talk to him for 20 seconds.
Right.
Maybe ask if it's like, if it's cold or wet outside, ask, ask the mom, if you should take your shoes off.
Like it's the little things, it's not hard.
It's like these little tiny things that you just have to do if you want to impress people's
parents.
And there's not that many of them.
Even if you're at the dinner like do the
fake grab for your pants like you're gonna try to pay for the dinner that no dad is ever gonna
let you pay for the dinner but even like pretending you're grabbing for the wallet
that now i'm like super impressed i'm like whoa this kid's trying to pay for dinner jesus look
at this guy wow i will say meadow soprano's boyfriend tried to pay for dinner and tony
like dressed him down.
He freaked out on him.
Oh, my God.
Physical.
I don't know if you remember that.
Tony had some rough moments, yeah, with Meadows' boyfriend.
He invented some racial slurs nobody had ever heard before.
Yeah.
Oh, that was crazy.
I saw that too.
Yeah. Maybe he's not the right one.
But boy, wow.
Look at you.
You would go great over at Buckingham Palace, I think.
Talk about Prince Harry.
That's the one thing he has is all these manners.
So you hate what you love.
Does he?
Would he come in and shake your hand?
I don't know.
I don't know.
We got to find out.
I didn't like that.
I was expected to shake his hand.
It was alarming.
It was alarming.
I haven't had a job for 20 years.
All right. That's job for 20 years.
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All right. So you have a big, big night tomorrow, right?
Big show?
Yeah, this is it.
Big game, Georgia TCU, Jimmy Kimmel Comedy Club.
We have a pregame live show, meet and greet, 2 to 3.30.
Get it at TicketmasterVegas.com.
It's brought to you by Crown Royal.
And then hang around and watch the game.
I can't, I don't know if I could do four nights. I have two more nights here.
Remember we could do four nights in Vegas?
I did two, and now I have another two, and it's tough.
I'm not even subjected to my idiot friend, Harry, who gave everyone weed gummies, and just everyone was plowed.
I might go from nine podcasts to two because of this fool giving everybody weed.
Everybody calm down with the weed gummies.
It's not like wine. I did a hottest take episode two weeks ago. Nobody seems to care that
the weed science is just completely in the 1700s. When they take a gummy, they have no idea
how effective it's going to be. And if it's even a little too effective, you're done for the night.
You're just a mess. I might be saying might, yeah, I might be saying this wrong, but so like you
drink a bottle of wine, you know exactly how much alcohol is in it and you've drank wine before.
So, you know, if you have a weed gummy, that's 10 milligrams that Harry gave you. And then have
another one that, um, nephew Kyle gave you that 10 milligrams that they could be very different.
They can, I look, I don't want to be preachy,
but for God's sakes,
when people are being wheeled out
in actual wheelchairs,
what's going on here?
We're in our 30s, 40s, and 50s.
Anyway, Harry's in the choir.
Yeah.
If somebody has like two bottles of wine at dinner
and gets carried out of the restaurant,
it's like a huge embarrassment
for everybody involved. Exactly. But if somebody gets carried out because they
thought they ate a half gummy, but it was a full gummy, then it's like, oh, that was so funny when
you ended up in the men's bathroom and you had no pants on and you were standing in the plant.
Yeah. That was great. And then you went home and you don't remember anything that happened for 18
hours. Right. But if you did that after two bottles of wine, you'd be like, do we have to have an intervention for that?
Right.
Of course.
Now it's just, oh, I get a kick out of this.
Oh, they're checking Scott's vitals in his room.
Oh, that's good.
There's a hotel technician.
All right.
That's normal.
Good.
Come see us at Kimmel Comedy Club from 2 to 3.30.
You'll see everyone obliterated on weed gummies.
I went to a New Year's party where we had great hosts at this one party,
and they had a little weed gummy tray,
and they had it cut into quarters, halves, and fulls.
Okay.
And the hostess was like,
I have measured these maniacally.
You're in good hands.
If you just want a little, I would take a quarter.
I'm like, you know what?
It's going to be 2023.
I'm going to live alone.
I'm going to take a quarter.
It was great.
It was exactly.
And by the way, with a weed gummy, it's always going to kick in.
Don't do the whole thing where you're like, oh, it hasn't kicked in yet.
Give me one more of these. It will kick in.
There's never been a story of the guy who
went to Vegas and was like, I took
a weed gummy. It never kicked in. It ruined my
night. It's the opposite.
Just wait. Just give it some time.
Anyway, it was fun, but
there was actual science to it, which
seems like where we need to go with weed gummies.
Exactly. I know we sound like
old men here. No, let's bring in
Kyle. Do we sound like old men? No, let's bring in Kyle do we sound like old men
no it's a dangerous game man
it's a dangerous game 10 milligrams
difference it seems like too from
brand to brand right it's funny like when
we were growing up
it was like the don't do drug stuff
right cocaine we were all afraid of
and they were all remember they were in the 80s when we
were children just commercial after
commercial of watch cocaine.
This is your brain on crack, all that stuff.
It feels like there should be very good natured weed gummy PSAs.
It was like, this is Tom.
He was out with his buddies from college.
He hadn't seen them in a while.
And here's Tom walking in the middle of a highway because he doesn't know where he is.
Because he took a full gummy instead of a half gummy.
He didn't get hit by a car and it was a funny story after but you know also if you notice bob's not wearing pants um half the half my guys are drooling at the blackjack table all right all
right we'll just wheel you back the pit boss is certainly not because you're winning money, but because you look like you're in the walking dead.
You're just...
Yeah, your friend's defecated all over the rug.
But it's hilarious.
Oh, yeah, too many gummies.
It's so weird.
I'm pro-weed gummies.
I just feel like we need to regroup.
Anyway.
Well, when did they legalize it?
Like 12 years ago, right? Yeah, I know.
It seems like it was like three weeks ago and prohibition
is over.
Anyway, all right. I've said enough.
I know I'm going to get crap for this.
We're not against the weed companies.
It just seems like there should be some...
If I have six beers, I have
some sense of what's going to happen to me after six
beers. Right.
Yeah.
When we did the hottest take, Fantasy, his counter was that this is what's fun about weed gummies is that you just have no idea what's going to happen.
I guess.
I don't know.
I mean, would you take that chance with anything else?
If I have the second piece of pizza, I'm going to miss the next six meals because I'm just going to
die. No.
We got to get it right. We got to get the dosage
right.
I'm sure we'll get some
responses. We'll find out more.
Maybe Prince Harry. Maybe this will be his
thought in life to figure out dosages
for weed gunners. He can finally
bring something to the table.
All right, Sal. As always, good job by you.
Good job by you, buddy.
All right, that's it for the podcast.
Thanks to Kyle Creighton for producing
as always. Thanks to Cousin Sal.
And I will see you on this feed
on Tuesday, but
you can hear me on the rewatchables on Monday night.
Get ready. Me, Chris Ryan, Sean Fenton,
doing Sideways Monday night. See you then.