The Bill Simmons Podcast - Curry's Electric Game 2, Plus Andy Samberg and Desus and Mero (UPDATED) | The Bill Simmons Podcast (Ep. 373)

Episode Date: June 3, 2018

HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons recaps Game 2 of the NBA Finals (2:13) before he is joined by actor and long-time Warriors fan Andy Samberg to discuss Game 1 of the NBA Finals, a PED hall of fame, comparisons between NBA teams and 'SNL' casts, and more (18:35). Then Bill sits down with Viceland's Desus and Mero to talk Pusha-T and Drake, LeBron's current mindset, and fixing the Knicks, Yankees, and Red Sox, before trying to figure out what is actually going on in 'Fortnite' (56:05). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It was Andy Samberg and Desus and Meryl Tate between game one and game two of the NBA Finals. But we promised that Sunday night after game two, I was going to come back on. We're just going to add to that podcast, a little special emergency edition that's coming up right after our friends from Pearl Jam. All right, it is Sunday night. Nephi Kyle is here.

I'm here. Just witnessed the Steph Curry show in Oakland, California. You know what I realized tonight? And I've noticed this when I was in Philly for game four. I'm not trying to start trouble with Simmons and Embiid. But I noticed this during the Celtics-Sixers game. Embiid was the favorite son in the arena and in the stands and was the one they loved the most.

That doesn't mean they didn't love Ben Simmons. It was an unconditional love for Joel Embiid. He's just their guy. He's the process guy. He adopted the process, loves the process, tried to nickname himself the process, didn't take. When your name is Joel, you don't need a nickname. But anytime he did anything well in those games,

it just brought the crowd an extra level of joy. And I'm not sure every city has a guy like that, but I think some cities do. And, you know, I think Tatum's going to be that guy for the Celtics. You can kind of feel it already. Kyrie was resonating with the fans in an unbelievable way, but I think Tatum will be the guy ultimately. And a lot of it has to do with just the start to finish aspect of the whole thing. You know, when you have the guy from day one and you watch him grow into something special and you feel like

you were there the whole time. And you could feel that tonight in Oakland for game two. They love Durant. They love Koi. They love Draymond. They love the team. They have great fans. It's a top five fan base. They really do affect the game. I thought the MVP chant for J.R. Smith was savage. It made me laugh. I don't think he did anything productive after that chant. I think it actually worked. It got in his head a little bit. But the point is, when Curry's going, that crowd goes to another level and the atmosphere and the electricity of it. And he was really special in that.

He made a couple of just outrageous shots and was really feeling it and looked like the Steph from 2015. And he's had flashes of that. And he's certainly, you know, he's one of the best five or six guys in the league still. But in the finals, I can't really remember him owning a finals game like that. Like he didn't win the finals MVP in 2015. Iguodala did. 2016, he was hurt. He actually was really good in game four, which has become a forgotten game of that 2016 finals because Draymond

punched LeBron and the balls at the end of it. But if you watch that game, the Cavs are going all out. They're trying to tie the series and the Warriors played great. Steph was really good in that game and hit some big shots. And you left that game thinking, oh, the Warriors are going back-to-back, that's it.

Then Draymond gets suspended, the series flips, and you know the rest. Last year just wasn't... It was kind of Durant's team last year in the finals. There was the partnership, but it was really Durant was the alpha dog of that finals and went toe-to-toe with LeBron and hit the biggest shot of the series

and was just playing the best basketball of his life at the perfect time and was seeing everything and was becoming kind of, had become the player we'd always wanted him to be. Steph in this finals is starting to feel like this is his finals. I was surprised when I saw, I looked at the finals MVP odds this morning and Dur durant was still the favorite to win the finals mvp i did not

think he didn't have like a great game in in game two i wouldn't even say it or game one i didn't even think he had a very good game in game one and steph was clearly the matchup problem i think for the calves in this series you just got to pay attention to him all the time he can't lapse can't do anything and I thought what I saw was Steph just he finds these windows where you either forget about him or he's coming off a pick or you know this new play that they have where he passes to Jordan Bell or he passes to whatever uh who's the other, JaVale McGee, whoever. He passes them in the baseline and it seems like the play's over. And then all of a sudden he's running behind them for the corner three

and they pass it through their legs to him. I know they started that play this year. That play is ridiculous. I can't believe it even exists. But it just was like the full peak of the powers. Steph Curry is probably the best shooter we've ever seen. He finally seems healthy, and he's got the right team around him, the balance of the team as well.

I thought Durant was awesome tonight. We left that game. I think every game you kind of look at it and you go, it belongs to somebody, right? Game one was the J.R. Smith game. Probably much to his chagrin. Game two is the Curry game. And I think when you go through the finals, each game kind of ends up belonging to somebody. And sometimes if it's somebody who's truly great, a couple of the games belong to them. But I felt like game two, this was the Curry game. And when he made that ridiculous follow a moon ball heave in the fourth quarter at the end of the shot clock, what was great about it, it was no different than the game one shot he made at halftime. He takes these ridiculous shots and you think they're going in. You think they have a chance. We were filming, we filmed for the HBO show we're doing. We were filming his pregame shooting routine and really blowing it

out. You know, just like, here's, here's what it's like. And he does these runway, this runway shot at the end of every shooting routine after he goes through it with the bearded guy who, you know, as the bearded guy and he's in the runway and he's like 40 45 feet away and he always takes one last shot and sometimes he makes it and today he made it and the crowd went nuts and it seemed like a like a bad omen for the calves when he made that one then he came out and just just eviscerated them i thought durant was awesome as well and he's to kind of get relegated to the shadows of it. But the all around game that he played, the defense that he played on LeBron, they're doing a couple of things. And I have no idea if the announcers are talking about this on TV or not, but sorry, I'm taking a sip of water. They are trying to pick LeBron up either full court or at mid court,

and they just don't ever want him to be that comfortable. They want to just kind of be in his chest. They don't want him to have a head of steam, and they are just trying to make it difficult for him. They are trying not to ever have him be that comfortable. Durant is a big reason for that. Durant guarded him a lot in this game. And when he doesn't guard him,

then Draymond comes over and he guards him. They're kind of the perfect team to play him. Now, the catch is, it felt like LeBron had a shit game in the arena. It's like, oh man, LeBron doesn't have it tonight. He looks tired. He's really off. And he ended up with 29 points and 13 assists.

So even LeBron's B-plus game would be probably the best game of 80% of the players in the league's season. But they did a good job of kind of forcing the other guys to beat them. And, you know, as a Celtics fan, watching Jeff Green just stink in these first two games, like don't think I didn't mention that to everyone around me for both nights. It's like, really? Jeff Green?

Now you're going to stink? After you showed up at game six, game seven in Boston? So frustrating. But I really think only three guys showed up for the Cavs tonight, and I thought they got really bent out of shape from the officiating end. They did have some bad calls go against them. Cavs tonight and I thought they got really been out of shape from the officiating and they did have some bad calls go against them they they LeBron in particular just seems like he's absolutely apoplectic that he's not getting officiated better I was sitting under the basket and the Cavs were

on my basket in the first half and I actually did think there was some plays where he did get fouled I do think he wins for calls too much he did get fouled. I do think he whines for calls too much in general, but in this game I do think that they were really letting him play and really letting him get banged around. And he was frustrated. But more importantly, the Warriors, you know, the JaVale McGee coming in the first quarter and starting the game and the way they were using him off of screening rolls and things like that, that was a new wrinkle.

Putting Durant on LeBron more. LeBron was trying to guard Durant on the other end, which I thought kind of wore him down a little bit. But it's funny. You know he's superhuman because when he gets tired, everybody kind of noticed, like, oh, my God, he's tired. His shoulders are heaving. Wow.

Wow, the guy gets tired. But he definitely was, he got a little tired there in the second quarter. I thought he, you know, I assume at halftime they just, they have vials and vials of blood from the children of the Cleveland area that they just, he just drinks to gain energy or whatever he does. Probably puts electrolytes in young children's blood. I don't know, but he came back. He had more energy in the second half, but it didn't really matter. The Warriors at home against this Cavs team,

when you think of it this way, they should have lost game one potentially by a miracle, the miracle of J.R. Smith, the miracle of St. J.R. After that happened, they weren't losing two games at home to the Cavs, the one they really should have lost, game one, and then this one. And I felt like a sap because I really thought the Cavs were going to come right at them.

And there were moments when they got within four, when they got within six, and you kept waiting for LeBron to turn on the Nas, Fast and Furious style, but he just couldn't do it. Curry just made too many outrageous shots. Nine threes, crazy. So what happens now? We are in trouble for, if you want it, a long finals. You know, this is not the Celtics.

This is not falling down 0-2 to Terry Rozier. This is falling down 0-2 to two guys that are really look great. There's moments with the Warriors they haven't been able to tap into it consistently but when Durant and Curry are going at the same time

the team is just breathtaking. It really is. And then Klay is doing his little thing. Klay seemed okay today. We'd heard various reports the last couple days about what might be wrong with his ankle, all that stuff. He seemed okay. He was moving all right. They got a little bit from David West.

Team just looks good. Guess what? When you have three of the best shooters of all time and two of the best five guys of all time and four guys that were made the all-star team, you're in good shape. So it goes back to Cleveland Cleveland I thought it was interesting I looked up the line Cavaliers getting four and a half points in game three so I think Vegas has has turned off their belief in this Cavs team now I will remind you the odds of LeBron shooting about 38 free throws in game three are high.

We don't know who the refs are, but the Cavs are going to be lobbying for calls nonstop over the next 24 hours. LeBron, we talked about this before, he's like Shaq. You can call it however you want. Every time he's banging into people, it could go either way. It's a no call. It's a foul. could go either way. It's a no call. It's a foul. It's a charge. It's a reach in.

You just don't know. And the crowd's going to be going nuts. I promise you. And rightfully so, because I don't think they got a totally fair shake from the officials the first two games. Those Cavs fans, they have like – I don't think they have like a top three crowd, but it's definitely definitely a top three angry crowd. That crowd does not F around.

When they feel aggrieved, they will let you know. They will scream at everybody. There's real anger in there. The Midwest is so nice too, but man, they don't like it when their team doesn't get calls. They're going to be on those refs. LeBron is going to be on those refs. And my prediction, just thinking about this here on a Sunday night

in San Francisco, I predict like a very kind of hostile, especially hostile environment. Because if you're a Cavs fan, I would do this if it was the Celtics. You'd be like, man, we got screwed in game one. We didn't get called in game two. What the hell? What's going on here? Does the league, ooh, the league just wants their Golden Boys to win?

And you bring that into the game, and you're just angry, and you're mad. But anyway, game two in the books. It was the Steph Curry game. Special player. I don't know where he ranks. I've been kind of secretly working on my Pantheon and trying to figure out where he goes. He's been in the league since 2009.

I think this is his 10th season. He's the best shooter I've ever seen. He is surprisingly feisty. There was a moment actually, I don't know if the TV cameras caught it, but he took a shot in front of the Cavs bench. And I think he thought Kendrick Perkins tried to trip him or something and just went right at him.

It was like he was going to fight Kendrick Perkins. My money would have been on Perkins. But he just, he doesn't take shit. He's, I think there's, he has this reputation of being soft and he's not. And I don't know. He just doesn't take it. Game one, he went right at LeBron.

I actually watched the telecast on Saturday to see if they showed that LeBron part. The TV didn't really do it justice of what that was like in person. LeBron pinned his block, talked some shit. Steph went right at him and was really sarcastic, kind of jawing with him. And I don't know.

Steph doesn't take shit. He's not like a traditional alpha dog, but I do think he is somebody that that's definitely sticks up for himself. It is definitely a tough MF-er. Anyway, awesome game by him. We are going to be back from Cleveland. So that's going to be the next time you hear from me. We're going to have some fun people on the pod. I don't know if we're doing two or three this week. This was a special one on Sunday. But stay tuned on that. And then coming up, right after we take a quick little break,

if you heard this podcast before, you can stop now. If you haven't heard it yet, Andy Samberg, we taped this over the weekend. Desus and Mero, same thing, taped over the weekends. A lot of it was concentrated on where the finals was going after game one, stuff like that. But with Andy Sandberg, we talked a whole bunch of stuff about SNL and growing up as a Warriors fan. Somehow I forgot to ask him about Brooklyn Nine-Nine because I'm an idiot. But he's coming back over the summer, So we'll talk about that with that again. And then the Bodega Boys came on

and we talked about the finals, LeBron, JR. We talked about Red Sox, Yankees. Talked about Fortnite because Fortnite is ruining our school systems right now. So we did that. So anyway, that is coming up. Andy Samberg, Deezus and Barrow, right after this. Hey, you're trying to find the perfect gift for Father's Day? Omaha Steaks delivers hand-trimmed, flash-frozen,

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This is like your second time in less than a year. Now it's got to be like monthly. We're getting you for the rewatchables. What are we doing, Rocky III? What do you want to do? What's your dream scenario to do a movie? Was it the Rockies we talked about doing?

Yeah. Which one do you care about the most? I'm a Rocky IV. Rocky IV, great. But I'm also a don't sleep on Tommy Gunn guy. I forgot about that. Yes. I really enjoyed that one too.

Yeah. I have conflicted feelings about that one. Maybe if I rewatched it. I don't like brain damage Rocky. I don't like brain damage to anybody with my favorite movie characters. It's interesting. We were just talking about how the new Sicario trailer looks like the leap from Rocky one to the Rocky franchise.

Oh, you think this is it? Every year they're doing Sicario? Well, I don't know. Sicario. It looks so much more popcorn-y than the original. Is that good or bad? Remains to be seen. It hasn't even come out.

Far be it for me to damn a film I haven't seen. I watched the trailer between three and 22 times, and I'm in. I'm just blind in. I'm definitely definitely gonna see it yeah yeah why haven't you done a parody of one of those movies where you have to go to south america to get something but budget but budget that's why budget is why so many good parodies don't happen because of budget so it it's hard to parody an action movie. Yeah. If you want to do it well, I mean,

Yorma directed MacGruber and they did some good action in that. And that movie was very cheap. And MacGruber it's like, it's destiny from the get-go was to become a cult classic down the road, which happened within like two years. The future cult classic. And now that's where it is. Yeah.

It was like from the sketch that you weren't sure you were liking yeah it's funny incredible that movie i had will ferrell my podcast last year talking about stepbrothers yeah and how people were so angry at stepbrothers when it came out and then it had this second life and now it's this classic but it just wasn't the case when it came out i mean that's frustrating that's in will perspective. It's still made like 85 million. Yeah. To him, that's a complete failure. Oh yeah. It was a bust. I can't believe it. Like, yeah, it must be nice. You're here for the comedy festival. Yeah. We're doing our first concert tonight. So this is it. The last time you were on the podcast, you said, yeah, I think we're going to do some Lonely Island concerts. This is the one. This is it. This is it.

We did a warm-up show in Pasadena. A warm-up show? It was, and I quote, lit AF. How many people? About 1,200. In Pasadena? In Pasadena. How long was the concert?

A little over an hour. We've got it dialed into basically exactly an hour because there's city ordinance here tonight. So it has to be exactly an hour. And are you Andy Samberg? Are you various people during the concert? It's the Lonely Island. And then, yes, there are some characters embodied throughout the course of the show, yeah.

Is there any point you're Andy Samberg? Yeah, I mean, anytime I'm not wearing a wig. Okay. You know what it is? The time that it's really the three of us is when we're doing like bits and banter when we're rapping it's a character for sure is this the first thing you've done with those guys in a while where you've like seriously collaborated uh well we did pop star which was not that that was two years ago two years ago yeah um and Akiva and I've been working on some stuff. By the time people hear this, it'll already have happened, right?

Yes. So we have a song. Me and Akiva have a song as the Bash Brothers. Oh, really? Yeah, we've been working on some of that. Definitely apropos here. I sat at game one of the finals. I sat next to Barry Bonds.

Oh, yeah. I saw him on. I didn't see you i was right next to him oh yeah he was by the way when uh i feel like when something great happened for the warriors they were cutting around and he looked pretty grumpy i was like is he not pulling for the dubs it was weird he he had a weird connection with lebron j. Yeah. So, and at, before the game, they kind of nodded at each other and I said like, you guys buddies. And he was like, well, you know,

we're all times. We're all time. Great. Well, that, no, that's literally what he was. And I was like,

no, I don't know. What do you mean? And he's like, you know, it's like, we all know each other. And I'm like,

like all the great players is like, yeah. Yeah. I was like, okay, know each other. And I'm like, like all the great players is like, yeah. Yeah. I was like, okay, that makes sense. So I was like, it's like a great player club.

And he's like, yeah. How do you feel about bonds? I think he should be in the hall of fame. I agree. I wanted to tell him that. Yeah. I've probably written mean stuff about him in the past,

but I think everybody did. Um, I just, we don't know who's cheating and who's not cheating and what's going on and who does what. And he was great before too. He was the best left fielder I ever saw. Yeah.

And then he had this whole other career when he, you know, he's clearly smaller than he was. I don't know what he did. None of us were, there were no rules against anybody doing anything back then. Yeah. I think it's crazy. I've written this, but you know, the Hall of Fame is like a museum.

It captures, it would be like if you had a comedy museum. And you'd be like, yeah, Doug Kenny can't be in it. He had a cocaine problem. Well, that would rule almost every case. Well, that would rule like 90% of Canadians. There just would be a cocaine wing. Yeah, it would be like Belushi can't be in it. He did cocaine on the set of Animal House, so he's out.

It's like, what? Should there just be like a steroid or a PED wing of the Hall of Fame? Or a PED Hall of Fame. Just a PED. Who did it best? Well, Jose is number one, motherfucker. I would say Lance Armstrong. He won like-

Oh, yeah, yeah. How many Tour de France's in a row did he win? All of them. And then he gets caught. He lies. He besmirches all these other people he gets caught and then admits he got caught i think he might have even gotten jail time or he got out of jail time yeah and he's like hey man i'm sorry hey you want to listen to lance armstrong podcast it's

going yeah i worked with him recently he did our hbo that's right thing yeah and he's just completely reinvented himself he was pretty chill i don't know what else to say he was super chill it's like do you have to give those back i always wondered like the like you must win something from do you have to mail the trophies back to france uh is there a trophy for the i don't know it's probably like a bracelet it's cycling probably like a headband super dope bracelet headband combo headband with like little gems you like collect the set if you win like a bunch in a row you get the whole matching outfit i like if like if it's happening in basketball and even if it was they would just gloss over it or if it's like if one of the stars got a drug test they

would just throw in the garbage but Isn't everyone in basketball smoking weed? That's my understanding. I would hope so. Yeah. I may or may not be staying in the same hotel as one of the two teams that's playing in the finals that doesn't live in San Francisco. Yes. And I'm not positive a couple of them are on my floor, but I walked back to my room about two hours after the game, and it was like up in smoke with Cheech and Chong. After the game.

Yeah, after that one, I would imagine. It might have been friends, family, all that stuff, but I got a contact high just going from eight rooms down. So who knows? Puffing on that good kid. Well, they always... The rule with the NBA is you get four tests during the year. And then I think after the fourth, that's it. And none during the finals.

Yeah, if your test is like March 12th, and that's the fourth one, you're good. It's like a free-for-all for them. I mean, I saw that whole thing on Real Sports about how so many athletes use it for pain, which makes sense. I mean, if it's legal in different states at this point you should start you know i just think that than like percocet and all that i agree yeah the

percocets are crazy people and it's so addictive brett farve almost died from painkillers and stuff but he wouldn't have almost died from pot he just would have been happier and he would watch the big lebowski probably more probably more probably would have seen more than he already does, which is a lot. Right. Did you see game one? I did. Would you,

would you think about the, uh, the Jr brain fart? It was very Jera Smith. It was weird character. It was, I feel like everyone's letting Hill off the hook for missing me too. To me,

I was like, if he makes that I'm, as you know, die hard warriors. Yes. We're going to talk about that. Grew up watching them live and die for them. And you're a real Warriors fan, not like the 2013 bandwagon.

No, no, no. I was just thinking about, because we were talking about how happy we are. They're good now. And I was thinking about those playoffs when Barkley used to just devour them. Yeah. We got a good team this year. 56 on C-Web. Yes, exactly.

Exactly. So this is a very special time for Warriors fans. Yeah. We got a good team this year. Yes, exactly. Exactly. So this is a very special time for Warriors fans. Yeah. But that game, if, if, uh, if Hill makes that free throw this season, I don't know, I'm sure you've noticed. I don't feel like the Warriors hit game winning shots with less than 10 seconds on the clock this year. Isn't Curry like 0 for 6 or something? Yeah. I don't remember it happening a lot this season. And I feel like it's a little bit of a is it is it steph or is it kd kind of a situation in those those moments right um but that's you know it was like snl like oh seven it was like is this haters team or andy's team what is it how do we figure it was wigs team there's no doubt about whose team it was it was

wigs and then we were all there to just do cool other stuff. You're like J.R. Smith and Tristan Thompson. She was in every sketch. I was going to ask you about that, actually, because this whole Cavs team revolves around LeBron. I always felt like SNL, Cavs, and NBA teams were very similar. The hierarchy of it and how you need eight or nine guys. Certain years. Anytime you have someone like an Eddie Murphy or a Farrell, no matter how good everyone else is you're just like oh my god i'm witnessing

something really special so that's like lebron right now agreed it's like a will ferrell career year where it's just like get out of his way and let him do his thing kevin love played great he did yeah well will ferrell had good good castmates really in the peak will ferrell years yes absolutely but yeah the snls can go either everybody's involved and it's different people carrying different things or it's like you just have this monster one cast member and then everything fuels through that person. I might be exaggerating a little.

Our cast was pretty solid. Your cast was, at the end of the last decade, was pretty crazy. When Bridesmaids happened, it was kind of over though because it was so huge. Yeah. But we had some years where you look around the table read and it was like oh man i'm excited to see what everybody's doing here and everybody kind of went on to do stuff yeah yeah

we have a very successful cast i feel very proud to have been bill haters now a murderous hitman yeah have you watched the whole series oh my god it's so good i actually was like where does this go how do they wrap this up yeah then the last three were the best three bill i text bill every time he does anything i'm like you motherfucker you're so fucking good it makes me sick that show was excellent yeah the cool thing about it is and the acting is the acting was great and it could have ended like the whole show could have ended on that last episode if it got canceled or something it still could have that just could have been the

show. It was a really good ending. Very well thought out. Everything worked. It was also funny. Winkler and the woman who played the lead detective were incredible. Yes. The bald guy who plays the like very polite gangster is incredible.

I'm a gack kid. Like it's all so well done. You're not, are you old enough to remember when Henry Winkler was the coolest person in the universe? I mean, I watched happy days. Heler was the coolest person in the universe? I mean, I watched Happy Days. He really was the coolest person in the universe. He went to college with my parents. The coolest, actually, two people were him and John Travolta.

Yeah. Which tells you a little bit about what 1977 was like. Travolta, yeah. Those were our culture setters. When you see those old clips of Travolta, though, you're like i get it i mean he was he was hot shit i think he's had more great dancing moments than any other human being ever i was thinking about this there was this instagram video that was going around of him at con uh-huh and he's dancing on the stage in con he's like you know 100 now he hits one of his 100 wigs on and and i was like this guy's been doing this now for 40 plus years is saturday night fever

urban cowboy greece pulp fiction has that's like the kind of the sneaky best scene in pulp fiction but all the way through and it's just like the dude yeah you can do it man you can move his god lebron back to game one yes yes so you thought you were gonna to lose. I thought we were going to lose. The charge on Durant. And then they flip it, which I've never seen in my life. It was a tough one. If I was a Cavs fan, I'd be pissed.

I've just never seen them review that and then be like, oh, actually we screwed the call up. Well, the refs said that they had doubt as to whether or not he was in the restricted zone. Everyone else says it was very obvious to them, but obviously to them, they had doubt.

And then once they were reviewing that, they are allowed to overturn based on something else. It's pretty sketchy. It seemed a little sketchy for you. I loved it. And I'll say this, you're like great review. I'll say this. If I was a Cavs fan, I'd be furious. Yeah. But as a Warriors fan, especially two years ago in the finals, I was them with all those calls on Steph in game six in Cleveland oh I forgot about that where they fouled him out he threw the mouth guard which was again not cool but a lot of those calls were like him like touching a dude with his finger and then he got fouled out or whatever it was like it happens in every finals there's a game where everyone's like those calls were bullshit yeah And last night was that one going for us.

So I'll take it. And I also agree it was weird. Last year, game four, going for the sweep, was another one of those games. Yes. Klay got a bunch of fouls. It was clear very early. It was like, this game is not going to work.

Also, I feel like no one is confused that the home team gets calls. Right? It happens every single playoff series. It makes sense. Yeah. It happens during the season, too. You have these three human beings who are officiating. There's 20,000 people there who are ready to be very angry at them at any point in time.

And I went to Philly-Boston game four in Philly. Yeah. And Philly's getting every call in that game. And I was going nuts. But I also understood it. It's like the Philly fans are crazy. And the refs, at some point, human nature takes over. Yeah.

And you start subconsciously seeing things. The craziest one was Harden not getting his flop fouls in game seven. Yeah. Last series. His like throwing his arms under people. He forgot to reorder the flop foul package. He only voted for six games. He forgot to reorder the flop file package. He'd only, he'd only voted for six games. He forgot to subscribe.

I've never seen anything like that cold streak. That the rocks I've been, you'd never seen anything like it until the Celtics, the game before all the same. What is that? Just nerves. Yeah. You know,

I talked about it with a couple of different people and it's actually not nerves. I think it's adrenaline. I don't think it's like, Oh, interesting. Cause I talked about it with a couple different people. It's actually not nerves. I think it's adrenaline. I don't think it's like. Oh, interesting. Because I was going to say my other guess would be fatigue because of the short man rotation and without Paul. So that's part of it too. A ton of adrenaline early.

Because the crowd, the energy is just different. They came out hot. The crowd is like, you can feel it. It's like a coliseum. And I think these guys come in and they don't pace themselves correctly. But then you shorten the rotations. Yeah. Second half, shots are short.

Yeah. But like, think about- He would have calmed him down. All right, first time on SNL, because Hayter told me this, that they were always very careful of when to put somebody in an opening sketch. Yeah. You didn't throw a year one cast member in the opening sketch.

You had to ease them into it. You're talking about the cold open. The cold open. Yeah, the live from New York. The first time you did that, did you have adrenaline or were you nervous? I was a little nervous, but I actually, I did so little political stuff

that it took me a while to be in one. Right, so by that time you were used to it. By that time I was more comfortable. I think it may even have been post lazy sunday which was the our big like moment on the show that sort of broke me yeah so after that i was kind of like yeah and then there's the live stuff because hater would have a hater would actually get nervous like he would get like physically yeah he's just a nervous issues and clearly i should get more nervous and i'd be a better actor like him i don't think athletes can get nervous like that i think actors and performers can get it and fight through it and do it but i think if you're an athlete if if you're being

compromised like that it's actually gonna you know if you're just moving on blind instinct right and you're kind of so fast rattled it's you know i think the free throw line is where you get nervous george hill or if you're too open right if you're too open that's what killed me yesterday because jeff green killed the celtics in game six and game seven and he never played two straight good games in his life and somehow decided to do this against my favorite team and then in game one lebron's hitting with these passes yeah wide open and he's just bricking threes and i'm like warriors got lucky again warriors have been getting lucky the whole playoffs they're also lucky that they have Curry and Durant on the same team agreed like Durant was like wow what's wrong

with Durant yeah he sucks tonight and it was like he had 29 points and like nine rebounds or something yeah well Steph did or I think what Durant had like 27? Yeah. Something like that, yeah. Still very good. His version of a terrible game is, you know, would be like a great game for anyone on the Cavaliers except for LeBron. Correct, correct, yeah. He shot a lot. It does feel like LeBron's better this year.

Somehow, yes. Because last year, LeBron and Durant were like this. They were dead even, and Durant might have even had a slight edge. And this year, it's like this. LeBron's playing smarter and he's hitting more jumpers. Yeah. And he's got that new, they were talking about it on the pregame, he's got the new fadeaway from

the side. And he's got that weird power spin bowl the guy over, but it's not an offensive foul. He's just 290 pounds. But is it an offensive foul though? It's like with Shaq right do you remember in I believe the fourth quarter when LeBron had a foul called on him last night and he started really getting pissed and fighting yeah it all died down and then the announcers were like

that's foul number one on LeBron and I was like oh fuck you like he hasn't fouled anyone the whole game he's that good that he doesn't foul anyone the whole game when you're rooting against lebron and that happens it is the most aggravated thing because it does feel like he commits 15 fouls a game but whenever they call him for one he acts like he just got a like a parking meter ticket yes that's the other reason why the reversal of the charge i was like i agree's weird, but also it's weird that you never get fouls called on. Yeah. That's the superstar thing, though.

Yeah, it is. He's the best player in the world. Jordan was the same thing. Remember the playoff game when Michael Jordan fouled out? No, because it never happened. It never happened. It never happened. And he was holding everyone.

Kobe was another one. Once these guys realize that the refs are going to call them for stuff, they just kind of go around like they have a two by four. They're like clubbing guys yeah guys are jumping by them and they're just doing this like they know they're not gonna by the way the other call that was insane was uh ejecting tristan thompson what did he do did he throw that elbow it seemed like he threw a flying wwe elbow oh he did livingston the replays it was really hard to see yeah it looks like he was kind of just annoyed but it didn't look like he was actually intending to hit anybody. It happened right in front of me and my best friend, Barry Bonds.

And we both thought it looked a little fishy. And he was like, I don't know Tristan Thompson. Barry's like, I'm very disappointed in Tristan right now. I love when the funniest thing is Tristan Thompson's pointing after. This new thing the NBA players do where they point, I'll see you in the hallway after. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like, I'll see you after school. I'll see you in the hallway. yeah yeah you know like i'll see you after school i'll see you in the hallway he meant the hallway of your hotel yeah whatever he meant

but then we were in the hallway after because we're all waiting and tristan thompson jay mcgree we're like five feet apart it's like you guys are here now do you want to yeah you guys want to fight we're not gonna fight okay cool uh they have to do a lot of posture he's gonna get suspended a game yeah seems like it yeah draymond i was so proud of him well draymond had reached the point hitting threes where you never felt like the threes were going in anymore and then he made the biggest three of the game and yes in uh ot well i just meant that he had the ball pushed in his face and he didn't get kicked out oh you're proud of him that he didn't yeah i mean he did get a tech though right

but the thing is they know they know from two years ago you know when lebron got him to punch get to for draymond to punch him in the balls yes it's you know you just kind of provoke him and hope that he snaps it'll happen they'll get him to do it yeah he'll get who do you think he'll get suspended again though it's probably in their game plan it'd be smart they'll put some they'll put some dude in it'll be like uh like in slapshot where they brought the the indian guy in and the other dudes like the guys born who weren't even on the team just to fight everybody else oh yeah they'll bring in one of those guys to just like start with they'll bring perkins off the bench yeah perkins is playing in this game perkins was livid the whole game. Did you see him? He's so angry.

Why is he so angry? He played in the NBA for 15 years. He made money. He's got a nice suit on. What's he angry about? In the finals in a nice suit. It's hard to take somebody seriously on the bench who's wearing a suit,

who's interacting with the players like he's in the game. Yeah. He said that's bullshit at least 100 times visible on camera. Well, he did. I found out after that when Draymond was kind of mocking, it seemed like he was mocking LeBron. He was doing that. He was, yeah. I think I read that on the ringer probably. Oh, that's it. Oh. Cause I probably gave that. I gave it to the ring. Yeah. He was doing the cheerleader thing. Yeah. For Perkins. Yeah. That's funny.

Yeah. Yeah. It was weird. It was a weird end. But you knew after the JR thing, you knew that sports are weird because- You knew they were going to lose after that. You know. Yeah. I was like, oh, Warriors are going to lose in OT. Everyone's, all the stat nerds are like, momentum doesn't matter. Momentum's a myth.

Yeah. That there's no statistical proof for momentum. It's like, momentum exists. Here's an example. The Warriors Cavs OT. The Cavs were not winning. Yes. I agree with you.

I was looking over at their bench and they were like devastated. You could just see it. Everyone's hang dogging. Yeah, it was tough. Steph hitting that one at the half too was so nice. So what happens if they win again? If the Warriors win again? I'm just worried about you as a sports fan.

Three and four years oh if they win the whole thing it becomes like uh remember when Adam Duritz was just dating just smoking hot actresses for like five years as a matter of fact I do yeah remember that yeah and after a while he's like I'd run out of I've run out of ways to get direction he's from the I've seen him like near where my parents live yeah Yeah. I mean, what do you do after five years of just, just bliss? Just how do you keep it going? Hit the road, hit the road, write songs about being on the road. I guess. I don't know. They're one of the best bands for songs on the road about like how tough the road is. Is he married? I don't know his deal. No, I don't know. I just, I just always worry when

things are so good for somebody for a short stretch. just i just want i'm looking out for you i appreciate it i played duritz once on uh on snl what was the sketch we did a series of them there were soundtracks they were like animated movie soundtracks so one was like about horses playing baseball and one was about um another kind of animal in the courtroom or something and you were adam duritz i was duritz it was all like showing clips of people singing the songs and it was like you know karaoke jokes of like singing their songs but replacing the lyrics with like horses playing baseball it was a late in the show 12 52 we did a couple of times yeah it's funny like uh bunny business was one. It was

about bunnies wearing pantsuits and doing business in offices. Those first two albums they had were huge nineties albums, but then they would tour and he was one of the few bands. I thought they were really good. He's one of the few bands that, that when they would sing in concert, they wouldn't sing the songs the way that people knew them from the albums. He would mix it up and change them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And people would be trying to sing, but he's like stopping and starting.

The first concert I ever went to was Bob Dylan, and he did that. And it was like, yeah, like a super bluesy version of like a Rolling Stone. And people are like, can you just play? Yeah, and everyone's like, I love the original. But I get it. If you've toured for like 60 years, he's like, I'm so fucking bored of this song.

You should do this in your concert tonight. Play Lazy Sunday, but play some version that nobody, some blues version of it. It's our first show. We're not bored yet. I can't sing to this. After making people wait like 12 years. Yeah.

Have you met Durant Curry? I met Steph briefly after a Clippers game, yeah. Yeah. Have you met Durant Curry? I met Steph briefly after a Clippers game. Yeah. But I've never met Durant. He was very nice. He was. Yeah. I think he was aware that I was a crazy fan of the team.

So he went out of his way to be nice. But he was like, can I get a picture with you? Oh, that was nice. And I was like, you're full of shit, Steph Curry. But I'll take it. It must be funny to have that turn where you become the crazy fan that's going up to somebody else with that yes crazy look in your eye that you want the picture i tried to play it cool but i my buddy akiva was

his birthday and i took him to the game for his birthday i rented an old limo yeah like bumped 90s r&b the whole way there like insisted on a shitty old 90s limo so we were like already having a great time yeah and then we were gonna say what's up to blake after the game but he got a concussion we just randomly were waiting in the hallway and steph was doing his like post-game interviews on the wire or whatever and he saw me and came over and i was like this is his birthday hey man best pure shooter of all time what do you think of like when when blake's going He saw me and came over and I was like, this is his birthday. Hey, man. Best pure shooter of all time. What do you think of like when Blake's going to the comedy festivals and stuff?

What do you think about athlete comedian crossovers? Like should athletes come to comedy festivals? No. When athletes are trying to do comedy like that and they're all of a sudden, it's like you wouldn't go on an NBA court and be like, guys. some people are good payton's good blake griffin's funny when it's when it's good i'm all for it if anyone's sneaky funny it's exciting right i remember when blake griffin got drafted it's it had everybody's like life goal that you know the espn graphics and it was like goal in life and And for Blake Griffin, it was like, wants to host SNL someday.

Oh, and I was doing a call about that draft. And I was like, I would put the odds on that at one quadrillion to one. And then like five years later, I was like, fuck, you might glad I didn't take those odds.

Although playing in Detroit, it's not happening. He would have to get traded. He's going to have to get traded again. Yeah. Detroit's bad for the Blake Griffin brand. Yeah. It's got to get back to a big city. that was a great move for him the next i don't

think he wanted that move for the he's re-signed with the clippers for all this money yeah they were like this is it this is the franchise here's where we're retiring your number and then like four months later they're like we've traded you to detroit i know this is like beaten to death this topic but that is why i get so annoyed when people are mad at Durant. Yeah. You're like, you're going to just have him wait around to get traded or like everyone on his team get traded because it's a business. He's treating it the same way the owners are treating it. I know this is old, but.

No, but it's it's been one of the themes of this decade. Yeah. I went into this decade with a certain idea of how the responsibility players had to fans and their city and their team. And now by the end of this decade, I'm like, I don't blame these dudes. Everybody treats, they'll get traded tomorrow. They'll get waived tomorrow. Like whatever.

Like they should do whatever the hell they want. They don't care what I think. Agreed. Although if Durant leaves, I'll be so sad. You'll be good to leave, Kevin. How long do you see these dudes staying? Do you think big picture with this team? I do. I think clay will stay draymond will stay clay seems like one of those guys who would stay because he doesn't want to move it's just like yeah i like this place i've been here

for four years he's such a fucking g i love clay he's everybody's favorite teammate on that they all like rave about him but they won't tell you why totally. Cause he's like, who's the best teammate? Clay. Why? Ah, you just have to be around him.

He's just no bullshit. Yeah. And if there's ego there, he doesn't show it. Right. Like the ego is he plays well. Yeah. And that's how,

and he, when he plays well, he's like, yeah. And now everyone knows I'm good. So like, he never talks shit. Right.

He's always on. He works his ass off on defense. Even yesterday when he got into it with LeBron after LeBron blocked Curry, and Curry was like, hey, man, come on, man. Did you hear any of that? I could see it. I was pretty close.

I was so like, what are those people saying right now? It seemed like Curry was like, what the fuck, dude? Come on. Like, why did you block me or why are you just like why are you talking shit you're losing yeah the game's almost over what are you doing yeah and they're like and lebron shoved them and then clay was like cut it out that bully ball shit yeah yeah and then because i think they felt like they especially felt this way in game five last year uh-huh when when the calves were about to lose the finals last year yeah in the fourth quarter

LeBron started doing this bully ball back down stuff when they needed threes right and they were just guarding the three-point shooters and he was just bad and he was just banging and bully balling yeah yeah and he did that last night in one possession with Curry there was this one time and they were gonna lose and he had Curry on him and he was just he's backing down he's like slamming into him like to kind of send a message yeah so i think i think those guys are being like you can do all that shit all you want we're not intimidated by you right right right and that made him mad and that's when he showed curry right but we got he's like weirdly feisty though i know you know he's got

ego he doesn't take shit his ego has been coming out more and more on the court but right i'm glad for it because people think he's soft and they go at him in that way. He's definitely not soft. Can't he like deadlift like a thousand pounds? There are crazy things about his strength. He's definitely feisty. And even on defense, you know,

when he was getting matched up with LeBron, he can kind of guard LeBron. My friend Barry Bonds was saying this yesterday. You can just say Barry. Barry and I were talking about it yesterday at the game. But he was saying that Curry could weirdly guard LeBron because LeBron's not faster than him. He was saying that the guys Curry can't guard,

the guys that can just go by him. But LeBron and him are equally as fast, so he's stronger. But at least he can stay in front, get shoved backwards. Curry had trouble with Harden. Right, because Harden was going by him. Right. But Harden goes by everybody. Harden also is just like a brick shithouse.

He's so thick. Harden is like Ginobili if you sent Ginobili to Eastern Europe in the 1980s and figured out how to make some robot version of Ginobili and make him faster and stronger. Yeah. I don't know how you guard. I think he'd be the single most impossible guy for a normal white guy to guard, like us.

Any person. He'd just go by us and we'd be like, whoa, where'd he go? Oh, he's behind us. Harden's skill set is incredible. Yeah. I just wish. He's like a magician.

I just wish he didn't flop so much. It's my one complaint. Yeah. But it works for him. He's going to be MVP. Whovp i did say i'm some comedian guy who makes dick raps just as a fan of the game though like and now everyone does it because he does it so much that it works so now like steph and kd do it lebron does it everyone's doing it now and every time it happens the whole stadium's like yeah even if it's their team you're

just like who cares i blame soccer i think soccer started this yeah the freaking flappers soccer flopping the uh the one the other thing i noticed last night was the animosity yeah i thought it was gonna be real it was like not fake animosity either it was like i'm really tired of like you the words you could tell were just like, I'm really tired of LeBron. Yeah. I've had it with Tristan Thompson and J.R. Smith can go fuck himself.

It was like, they definitely, you could feel it. It wasn't fake. And the Cavs are like, still think they're soft. Yeah. The Cavs are like, you guys are pussies. And proved it on the glass, by the way. Yes. But still didn't win because they just, the Warriors are just too good.

I learned last night that. And they got the good calls. And they missed the free throw. And JR ran the wrong way. There was a lot of things that went our way. That's the thing. When you have JR Smith on your team, he's on your team. There's this JR Smith tax you have to pay.

Yeah. Where he's going to forget the score. He almost maimed Clay Thompson in the first quarter. Accidentally, when he fell. He slipped, though. I was actually a little Thompson in the first quarter. Accidentally, when he fell. He slipped, though. I was actually a little disappointed in the crowd. It seemed pretty obvious that he slipped.

I think it was the history of behavior with him, though. There is a clip on YouTube called J.R. Smith's Dirtiest Plays, and it's like 20 plays. The Warriors have Zaza. Right. If they sent Zaza out to deal with J.R., I don't know what, they would just dirty play each other. That would have been hilarious if he checked in for the first time at that

moment. Just for two seconds left, two seconds left in the game. I also slipped. It is. We haven't seen him at all. No, we'll see him if they're like down 20 in one of these games.

It's been a small ball playoffs. Yeah. No, really nobody. So how long do you think curry and durant stay together just big picture as a warriors fan how long do you think you have this because if they win this title it's three and four years which has only happened like six times durant is his contract up this year it is but it seems like he's they're just gonna redo it he makes so much money from the Silicon Valley part of this whole thing.

I don't see him leaving. Agreed. And Steph's the backbone of the whole franchise. I think Curry and Durant stay forever. It seems like everyone loves Klay and he comes back. And then Draymond. Draymond's got to know where his bread is buttered, though. I mean, he's incredible and he's going to be a Hall of Famer.

But it's also because he plays with those guys that he's able to excel so much. Right. He'd be great on any team, no doubt. When you hit a three and it goes in and it's an absolute bonus, that's where you want to be, I think, as a basketball player. Exactly. It's like, hey, Draymond made a three, man.

Congratulations. Also, just if your two guards hit 50% of their threes, you're going to get a lot more assists. Yeah. There was one point during the game, If like your two guards hit 50% of their threes, you're going to get a lot more assists. Yeah. He was, there was one point during the game. He got the technical, he got really mad that they called him for poking LeBron in the eye.

Meanwhile, LeBron's like, yeah, walking around. Yeah. Like definitely fouled. Like he like hit him with a wire hanger. He definitely found him.

J-Mind's just furious about it. And he wouldn't calm down. And Barry was saying, yeah, calm down,. And he wouldn't calm down. And Barry was saying, yeah, calm down, Draymond, calm down. He can't calm down.

Yeah. Yeah. Cause, and it was like, but other people in our section were too. It's like, he's that the whole stadium. He's that eight year old kid where it's like,

Oh no, no, no. You're at the birthday party. It's like, Oh no. Oh, Billy's melting down.

He's going to kill the cake. Shut the cake over. So how many concerts are you doing? Just this one for now. That's it? Yeah, we're dipping our toe. How many people? They're telling us 15,000.

What? Yeah, we're headlining. 15,000? We're headlining the first night of this festival. That's like almost as many people as game one. Yeah, it's a lot. 15,000? Yeah, it's a lot.

See, adrenaline or nerves? Adrenal will kick in once we go out there. I've got a little nerves. I'm glad we did the warm-up show to get through. Don't get like Trevor Ariza, Terry Rozier type 0 for 28 from 3 nerves.

I like Rozier. That's my dude, man. Celtics next year. They could stay healthy. Come on in. Jump's my dude, man. He's got game. Celtics next year. They could stay healthy. Come on in. Jump on the bandwagon. We'll take you. I've always liked the Celtics.

The Celtics love bringing celebrities from courtside. I would love to go to a Celtics game. You would love it. They would show you the jumbotron. You'd do this. Yeah, they're a great franchise. Donnie Wahlberg's under the basket every game.

I love Donnie Wahlberg. Donnie Wahlberg's had like three separate careers that anybody would take he's been on blue bloods for like nine years six cents just yeah six cents he's banking these blue bloods checks my dad is like i miss blue buds i gotta go on hulu that's what your dad said yeah my dad he loves blue bloods so that's why he's gonna get on hulu no it's that's donnie walberg that's why he's going to get on Hulu? No, that's Donnie Wahlberg. That's why he's doing well. I follow him anywhere.

My dad is like trying to figure out the streaming universe. Catch up on a Donnie Wahlberg show. You're good. My dad's 70. He doesn't want to do anything. That's a long running show. Blue Bloods is very successful. What's your favorite episode?

No, my favorite is when you turn on TNT for the Thursday night game. Yeah. And it's like the last eight minutes of CSI New Orleans with Scott Bakula. Oh, yeah. I'm always in. That's good stuff. Scott Bakula's face never moves during whatever's going on. He's just suspicious, but there's-

Stoic AF. It's New Orleans and somebody did something and- I'll watch anything set in New Orleans. Yeah. Like Bad Lieutenant. New Orleans and Miami. Yeah. I'll watch anything set in New Orleans. Yeah. Like Bad Lieutenant. New Orleans and Miami. Yeah. It was fantastic.

New Orleans, Miami. It's just like whatever is going on there, I'm in. Yeah. Yeah. Or the Bayou is another one I like. You like the Bayou. I like the Bayou. And I like the Everglades.

Remember that Netflix show with Kyle Chandler? It was just like, they're in the Florida Everglades. It's just sweaty. Everybody's wearing linen shirts that are just big sweat patches. Yeah, I don't think I saw that. Which one was it? Bloodline. Oh, Bloodline.

I actually haven't seen Bloodline, but I hear good things. It's a lot of sweating. Yeah, a lot of sweating. Could be another good, another as you think about the next stage of your career. Everglades, Bayou, New Orleans, sweat. Good way to stay in shape. Yeah. Sweating out. Losing water weight, sweating out the night before. Yeah, sweat. Good way to stay in shape. Yeah. Sweating out.

Losing water weight, sweating out the night before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wear that trash bag. Yeah. All right. So you'll be back for Rewatchables, Rocky something. Absolutely. One of the Rockies.

I love that. Good luck tonight in front of 15,000 people. You'll be fine. If you want to come, let me know. This will be good. We got ticks. Oh, you do? Yeah, man.

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with them we're doing a podcast that's just the way it goes here they are alright it is Friday 6pm San Francisco time Desus and Mero

yes in San Francisco they allowed you out of New York our first time in San Francisco I thought you weren't allowed on the west coast no we got we got pardoned by Trump

yeah and Danny Tanner said we could come back since the last the last time no we got uh we got pardoned by trump yeah and danny tanner said if we could come back since the last the last time we did a podcast we all of us basically implored mag francesca to come back yeah how did you feel about that how did you feel about literally the next day after we did that podcast he was like all right i guess i gotta come back that's it i'm calling the bodega boys said it they gotta we gotta do it. I'm back after this. How do you feel about him being on Twitter? It's magical.

What are you talking about? It's the gift of the Magi. It just keeps giving. I feel like he died and somebody has figured out how to take his voice. His consciousness. And his consciousness. And they're just orchestrating this because it's too good to be true. To watch him live tweet basketball games. Oh, my God.

The other day he was like, oh, the Warriors are terrible. They're done in the second quarter. i was like you want to finish it's like the rick james sketch on james chappelle where he kind of didn't realize that he was the joke you know what i mean and he just like goes on and on the warriors are garbage in the first quarter he's like i told you they win i told you put out what a gutsy play yeah and then yesterday he had he made the comment. What a gutless move by Kevin Durant. He said a lot of people don't realize that Steph Curry is a great ball handler.

Okay. You mean everybody realized? I feel like one of us is just watching basketball for the first time. By everybody, do you mean the cashier at the Stool Letters where you get your wine? That's one of my favorite national sports arguments when people be like, people don't realize Kevin Durant's a good shooter. When people say arguments when people be like people don't realize Kevin Durant's a good shooter when people say that

it's just like it's like you didn't realize it like everyone else didn't realize that he has eight foot long arms he could just throw the ball into the hoop from like anywhere

on the court I have since the last time I saw you Francesco went on Twitter and my seven year old dad is also now on Twitter and his tweets are exactly like

his text to me during Red Sox and Celtic games so between those two I'm like this is great I feel like I should be paying Twitter now on Twitter. Oh, yeah? And his tweets are exactly like his text to me during Red Sox and Celtic games. Does he start them? So between those two, I'm like, this is great. This is great. I feel like I should be

paying Twitter for these two people in my life. I have to pay Twitter to let my dad not be on Twitter. That would be good for your editor.

It might be bad for my career. You think Roseanne had hot tweets? Oh, my God. You guys have had a lot of fodder this year. Yeah.

A lot of things to talk about. But you know, it's the one week we take off. Take off. The whole world implodes. You weren't on this week for Roseanne? We were off this week. We missed everything. We missed Pusha T and Drake.

We missed Roseanne. Kanye's implosion. Pusha T and Drake. That. I've never listened to a song and turned it down because it was so disrespectful to the person they were rapping about. When he started talking about his son, I was just like, I hate this. Oh, man.

But not the most disrespectful song ever. No, not. But the most disrespectful in a while. Quite. Yeah, in a while. I think Super Ugly from Jay-Z was the most disrespectful. I think probably, you know, either The Bitch and You by Common dissing Ice Cube or Ice Cube's No Vaseline diss to N.W.A.

For me, it's No Vaseline diss to N.W.A. For me, it's No Vaseline to hit him up. Yeah. Hit him up, he went the sickle cell. Yeah. That was- Don't want your little niggas no shit to see in front of me. Yeah.

And like, I fucked your bitch, all that stuff. Yeah. He referenced it when he made the, about 40, having MS. That part, I was just like- It was almost like he was sampling the most inappropriate lines that were crossed from years past. He's like, I'm going to cross all of these. I could just hear the glee in his voice as he was reciting these lyrics to people and

probably the studio engineer was just like, no, don't. Yo, you're doing too much. Chill. Well, it's like the old thing. We talked about this last time. Never beef down. Never beef down. And Drake was flexing a little like, oh, someone else is coming.

He came out with peacock feathers out. You have way more to lose. You took him down. Also, if you have a whole hidden child, not that I have one. I'm just saying. If you have one, you have to lay low. Don't rock the boat. You know, just.

An alleged hidden child. Alleged, yeah. I'm like, I'm still like, I don't know. Like, as a card carrying Dominican, like, I want to see tests and papers. That's not how it works. If someone says you have a kid, you can't be like, nah, I need need a few papers because you know i mean like we've seen uh travis scott and kylie jenner's kid and then they're saying that it potentially could be her bodyguards kid he came out said it was oh he said it wasn't yeah and that kid looks just like the bodyguard bro

exactly but we've never seen drake's child so we never so the one thing i'm suspicious of is didn't he say the kid's name was Adonis? Adonis, yeah. So that's also Creed's son's name in the Michael B. Jordan Creed? Yeah. Adonis, which makes me wonder if he was just watching Creed one night and that was... And forgot to pull out?

He's like, oh, this is such a great scene. I forgot to pull out. I guess your name is Adonis now. Or Pusha T was watching Creed and was like, I'll just do Adonis now or Pusha T was watching Creed and was like I'll just do Adonis this didn't really happen how did that

like that's just he's been working on that for a while man cause they get all that information he had to have that it was like a scouting report cause he's been like

poking at Drake and like Young Money for so long like oh you guys aren't getting paid your boss isn't paying you. Your boss has you in a headlock. But they're all legit

beefs. You know what I'm saying? This is for you guys. This is for us. This is it. This is why you created your show. And I'm like, yo, I'm just trying to tell Pusha T, like, dude, don't ruin my summer. Right. Don't ruin my summer. Drake is summer music. Cool. I enjoy listening about

you selling cocaine that's dope and you do it very well but like i don't want to hear about this shit at their barbecue i don't want to hear drake i don't want to hear you know what we drakes had too many summers too much happy stuff i want to hear about cocaine at like a family reunion i want to hear about chopping up bricks while i'm playing with kids that's what i want i'm like the total opposite i'm like yo it's sunny it's nice i got flip-flops on i'm like grilling i'm like the total opposite. I'm like, yo, it's sunny. It's nice out. I got flip-flops on. I'm like grilling. That's you.

You sold 28 bricks. I don't know what the price of a kilo is. Well, could this lead to Drake having a turn? Yeah, this is a real turn. Dark Drake? Dark Drake, yeah. Because Drake getting a little rough now? The problem is the Drake we're seeing right now is Dark Drake.

He's been saying this for two albums. He's like, I'm angry. He doesn't have, like, Drake can't get darker than him. He's like emo Drake. He's Canadian. How much darker can he get? He's just like angrily pour syrup. Like, no, he's, listen.

Emo Drake is, yeah, I'm pointing with the emo Drake shit. I think he can get darker. I think he can get more aggressive. He does emo about girls. He's never gotten aggressive for beef or with another guy. Except Meek Mill. I feel like he thought Meek Mill wasn't going to go at him

bar for bar. But Meek Mill dropped the ball on that. Meek Mill never responded properly. First he tweeted Z. Then he did some whack half-ass song. But that was a great situation for Meek Mill. It was. It was a layup for him. It was a layup. Just keep escalating it. Meek Mill didn't come with a game plan.

He was tweeting out of anger because Drake never tweeted out the link to his album. So he didn't think his actions through. So he's just tweeting, tweeting, tweeting, not realizing if you're going to go up against Drake, you have to have plan A, plan B, like a follow-up backup plan and stuff. Meek Mill did not have that. I'm wondering if Meek Mill's just not maybe that organized of a guy. He might not be. Just might be. If Philly guys are not organized of a guy. He might not be. It just might be.

Look at Colangelo. He might have ADD. Disorganized and messy. Yeah, we're at the finals, and everyone's congratulating me for the Colangelo story we did for two days. And it was like, meanwhile, the finals is going on. People are like, how about this Colangelo? Oh, my God.

His wife is involved now. It's like basketball wives. What do you think it is? It's funny watching Twitter respond to that because you guys are just normal on Twitter. People just make fake pages all the time. For someone to be in that position, it's hilarious. Well, you guys know how Twitter works. There's a lot of nights where people are just hoping

something happens. Oh, yeah. And that was the day after the Game 7 Rockets Warriors. And it's just this dead NBA night it's the first time there's no NBA nothing going on eh

Warriors Cavs again man and then that story goes up and people are like oh my god this is a gift what

you saw like the last tweet and you had to like follow back who are they talking about who did what bro there was a couple of tweets

and I was like did I write these because there was one that was like Ben Shimmons shoot a three you coward I was like I was like did I I write these? Because there was one that was like, Ben Shimmons, shoot a three, you coward. I was like, did I?

I was like, I've definitely yelled that one night. And the Embiid stuff? Yo, that's why I'm like, now I'm campaigning to get Embiid on the Knicks. Like, yo, we'll never do this to you. Because no one doesn't care about it in basketball at all. Don't worry about it. You know, every time we try to get a player to the Knicks, it's not because you could win a championship. It's just like, eh, it's a little nicer here.

We have hot dogs. Yeah, you know? It's a big city. The hot dogs are kosher. We is not because you could win a championship. It's just like, eh, it's a little nicer here. We have hot dogs. Yeah, you know? It's a big city. The hot dogs are kosher. We won't mock you on Twitter. Girls. Yeah. Girls, you'll be the king of the city.

The big advantage of the Knicks is that you can go anywhere you want at 3.30 in the morning. Yeah. There's just not a lot of cities you can say that. Yeah, but... And it's also like, it's like, yeah, if you're the king of... That's not an advantage? I mean, how much fun is that? Especially if you're a Knick player and, okay, you can go to any club you want. If the Knicks are terrible and you go to a club and you got some guy like me, like,

oh, you bum, why don't you go practice somewhere? I was just trying to come up with any advantage as to being on the Knicks. It's Massacre Garden is centrally located and it's near a lot of transportation. It's near Penn Station. You can get to your mansion in Westchester very quickly. Drake and LeBron. There's always these different incarnations of Drake. Right.

And he's kind of a chameleon. And it's like, I'm sad, Drake. I just want to fall in love, Drake. I'm angry, Drake. I'm charged up. I'm the man, Drake. And now it's going to be like, I've been tested. And now I'm going to show you who I am.

LeBron has also had a lot of incarnations. And the guy that I watched in game one of the finals. That was not a guy. Was, I am really angry and I might fight everybody, LeBron. That was Thanos. Who I've never seen before. That was LeFano's. Yeah.

Have you ever seen LeBron like that aggro before? I couldn't believe it. And that's what I said. I was like, yo, if he goes into the finals like that, he has a chance. And if he pulls that off, then the whole GOAT argument, like, yo, get that shit out of here. But he wasn't just anger. He was playing with a high level of intelligence with that anger as well. Yeah.

He wasn't just pounding the ball down. It's controlled anger. He was playing the game at his own pace because there was one play where he actually stopped himself from dunking and held the ball in the air a little bit and then released it. Do you remember that play? Yeah. And I was just like, how do you have the muscle control and the we're about to know to do that in a split second and you beat the defender on that? He's playing a high level basketball I've never seen before. That game.

It really bugs me because I thought I was going to die on the MJ corner. I even wrote my book. I was like, look, we're never having this discussion ever again. It's Michael Jordan. Stop it. Get the fuck out of here. Even though I love Bill Russell. I know. I read the book. Even though I love Bill Russell's the best, but no, Mike is the best. Yeah, LeBron is.

I was having a text today and I was like... You're a Celtics fan. You saw the lesser Markeith, the lesser Morris brother literally grab onto that man's shoulders and ride him like a pony. It was like Shaq. It was a young Shaq. He still had the body control to make that way. Are we sure he's the lesser Morris brother?

I don't know. Can they both be the lesser Morris brothers? I don't know if there's a greater Morris brother. Are you going to fight this witch? Who's the good one? I don't even know. Whichever one doesn't play for Boston, god damn it. All I know is whoever, whichever Morris twin you have on your team, I don't even know. Whichever one doesn't play for Boston, God damn it, I'm a new worker. All I know is whoever, whichever Boston twin you have on your team,

you don't want them to shoot in a close game with like four minutes left. Like, please don't shoot that. Don't shoot it. But the LeBron thing, there's a couple moments,

there's things that he's doing that are just different. Because I always thought, I don't want to say he was weak. I would never use that word because that guy's amazing. And I don't want to use the was weak. I would never use that word because that guy's amazing. And I don't want to use the word soft either. But almost like there was a little bit of benevolence to him.

He was just a little bit too nice. Yeah. Just a little bit. That's what it is. I didn't see that last night. He doesn't want to be like, Colby wanted to be Michael Jordan so bad that he was like, I'm going to adopt this asshole mentality that Michael Jordan has.

It's like murderous. i'm doing a jordan impression i'm doing my best impression and i'm going to the scores table and i'm asking hey how many more assists do i need for a triple double you know what i mean blah blah blah lebron is just like yo i'm just the greatest basketball player to ever live but i'm also not a dickhead you know what i mean like yes i'm gonna be nice socially conscious i'm socially conscious. I'm socially conscious. You'll never hear him be like, yo, Republicans are my secret suit or whatever it is. You know what I mean? He's more, maybe it's him, maybe it's the people around him.

A little passive aggressive. You know what? Yesterday I felt like LeBron reminded me of, you ever worked on a group project in college and everyone else around you is not helping whatsoever and you know you're not going to get any help? Yes. He seemed so frustrated that he was like, you know what? i'm going to do this by my goddamn self the rest of y'all gonna get a ring y'all be happy for it just give me a ball let's give it a ball get out of the way he's done that before in the past because there's been in 2010 and 14 when those when those

seasons started to slip away i remember in 2014 he was just throwing these really hard chest passes at his teammates he was like you guys take it take it miss another fucking shot he starts telling like at the top of the court and he starts pointing for people to get and they're like I already know my position hit the corner

he's like you cut I'm currently cutting it reminds me a little of when my wife comes home with groceries and I'm doing something and I don't help and then she carries it in the last bag and I'm doing something and I don't help. And then she carries it in the last bag and stomps it. And it's like, I'll get these. I got it. I got it.

I'll take the cage to the basement. Don't worry. Yeah. But that's like his attitude. Yesterday was just like, I'm beating the Warriors by myself. You guys can join me or I'm going to just score 50 points. He literally would have beat the Warriors by himself. Yeah.

I think he thought he was going to. That KD no call and that JR shit at the end. Was that JR Smith or was that vintage JR? That was, as a Knicks fan, you know, like, it's like hot and cold. Like, you get those from JR. Like, you'll either get a 40-point. You get a shot, and you're like,

what are you doing, what are you doing? Oh, yeah, yeah, I love the JR. But then you get the ball with, like, two seconds left, and you dribble all the way to half court and then back, and then you see him mouthing the words, I thought we were up. Anything is possible. That look LeBron gave when he was pointing,

that frustration look. He's like, what are you doing? J.R. got that rebound. He's on the top of the key. Right there. He's like, here's my MJ moment. Get cameras ready. I'm getting this off.

We're all waiting for it. And J.R. was like he was like i got a fifth of henny in my locker do you think jr is the most likely person who could have been in above the rim 23 years ago 24 years ago whatever that movie was absolutely yeah is there a more likely above the rim player ricky davis maybe but jr's like got it i mean like ricky davis because he was so gassed yeah like remember when they drafted lebron he's like yo i could i could use some help like he's he would be a good addition to my offense you know yeah jr kind of seems like basketball is kind of something he does but it's not like his first love like he's kind of chilling like he could probably be stealing

cars or smoking weed or something else he's one of those people you park yeah you both want him to shoot when you're rooting against him. But then you're also afraid as he's shooting. It's a gamut of emotions on every J.R. position. Because we've seen good J.R. that season with the Knicks when him and Steve Novak were going like shot for shot in the backcourt. Yeah. Oh, that's right.

2013. He was good that year. Sixth minute of the year. And so he lost his mutant powers in the playoffs against what team? One of the things I love about the NBA, which I've grown up with my whole life, there's always a J.R. Smith. Yeah. There's always that guy on a good team.

You know, Rasheed Wiles was a better version of him before, but he was the same thing. Like, he fucked up on Robert Horry in 2005. Robert Horry's having this fantastic game, trying to save the Spurs in Detroit. They call this out-of-bounds play. He's already red hot. He's got like the NBA jam flames coming out of his ass.

He's on fire. And they go to him and he's open. And Rashid leaves Horry to go chase the other guy. And that's it. Why? And it was like J.R. Smith told he would have done that. Yeah. 100%.

100,000%. Did they ask him why afterwards? I think he just fucked up. Rashid was like one of the best defense supporters in the league. And he played in Air Force Ones. I want to make that a note. He played in Air Force Ones. You have no kind of foot support on that.

Those are for standing in front of the bodega. Those are not for any athletic endeavor. Can you even legally play in Air Force Ones? No. You do have to have a felony to play in Air Force Ones. That's the Rasheed rule. They were like, almost like hiking boots. Yeah.

They were high tops. Yeah. Yeah, the high top ones with the strap. I was like, bro, like, are you gonna sell weed or play basketball? He's like, a little bit of both, what you want? Yeah, what you need. I got dimes. Right?

And I got dimes. Don't come below me. Don't come to the circle unless you cop it. Where do you guys stand on Kendrick Perkins being this menacing bodyguard in a suit who's yelling at everybody? I love it. I love it. He's like the guy at the strip club that's like, big man, big man.

I'm going to tell you once. I'm going to tell you one more time. Don't touch the dance. Don't touch the dancers. You can't smoke in here. What did I tell you about? Take off the hat. Take the hat off right now.

I told you no hats in here. His name's Kendrick. Draymond was taunting him. Draymond was pretending he was a cheerleader. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. I don't know if I taught Perk. His name's Kendrick. Draymond was taunting him. Draymond was pretending he was a cheerleader. Oh, my God. I taught Perk. Yeah, I wouldn't.

I mean, it's Draymond, though. Draymond's, he's a, you know. I went in the 2000s. He's like the new Dennis Rodman. He's like, just gets under your skin and gets in your head and, like, fucks with you. Yeah, he's like a less drunk Dennis Rodman. Yeah. Or less whatever Dennis Rodman.

Whatever. I don't know. I was saying. A less inebriated substance guy. I remember I had Steve Kerr on my podcast once talking about

Jordan's last game against Utah. And he's like, you know, Scottie had the bad back and Dennis, you know, it was really coming

to an end there for Dennis. He just didn't elaborate what's going on with that guy in the hotel room hitting the little tiny bottles what did you think about what he said he said there's absolutely no way I would play in the NBA today Steve Kerr in my prime

he said I would never survive in the NBA today I still feel like if you can make threes you can play yeah he literally said that I kind of agree with you can make threes, you can play. Yeah. That's kind of awesome. He literally said that. I was like, I don't know. I mean, I kind of agree with you because you were a bull. That's weird for him to say because he's a professional player.

He's played in the NBA. And like every other regular person like myself, I think I'm physically fit to play in the NBA right now. I can start for the Knicks right now. Let's go. Yeah, let's do it. I could DM LeBron right now. Yeah, for sure.

I could hold him to at least 10. LeBron would bully ball you. No. Like what he did to Curry. Did you see that one play? It would be embarrassing. He probably threw the ball off my head. Did you see that one play when he was backing down Curry,

but he was reaming his shoulder. And they just don't know what to do calling fouls for LeBron. They don't. It's like, was that a foul? I don't know. He's 290 pounds. Because he's so big. Yeah, what is it? It's like, was that a foul? I don't know. He's 290 pounds. Because he's so big. They're just hacking him.

Fouls other players get, you see LeBron just eat them. It's very similar to the Shaq thing. There was that four-year stretch where it was like... How can you foul him? He's a mountain. He's turning around. The other guy's going flying backwards and he's dunking. Whose foul was that? Is that a Chargers? Is that a Broncos foul? is that is that a charge or is that a blocking foul

meanwhile Chris Dudley is like that was a foul that was a foul bro he's kicking the basket out of his head yeah I do I really do think like you know everyone's like LeBron vs MJ all that stuff to me it's like Wilt Shaq

LeBron these three guys that could just overpower everybody. What about Amari Stoudemire for the first two months he was on the Knicks? Oh, on the Knicks? The MVP run? He was like one of those fast and furious cars where people are like, yo, man, the RPMs are at eight.

And Vin Diesel's like, no, no, we got it. Just one more mile. D'Antoni's like... 42, no, we got it. Just one more mile. D'Antoni's like, eee. 42 minutes a game for Omari. Is D'Antoni a fraud? Ooh. Like, as a Knicks fan, I feel like, yo, dude, you, like, you did what you did. He did give you Linsanity.

Yeah. That was a happy three weeks for you. Yeah. But then it's like, bro, when you get to the, almost to the top of the mountain, you always blow it. Like, I would make a joke, like, I would tweet every Knicks game, like, when it would come down

to, like, the last couple of seconds, I'm like, oh, here goes D'Antoni drawing up a game-losing play. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? Like, every time, bro. You gotta respect Mr. Pringle, though. Don't you feel like

there is something to a coach that seems like he's taking a shit in his pants in the last four minutes of a game seven? He has that look on his face like, he's just furious. It's a lot of pressure. Because I always felt like John Calipari, I just wouldn't want to play for him.

You know, where you look at like my dude, Brad Stevens, he's always calm. He might be dying inside, but we don't see it. And I think Steve Kerr is for the most part like that. And I actually think Ty Lue is like that too. Where they're kind of just the same at all times. I like Mike Woodson because he's like that

unless he's like... Because he might be half dead. Yeah. Also, but he's like the angry black uncle. Sometimes he's just like, motherfucker. But we saw Mike Woodson

where he was like, he had to take care of that Nick team. And that wasn't a Nick team. He was a babysitter. That was a daycare. It was like a daycare center for adults

remember he the short guy that he just benched for no reason for I'm blanking on his name now you know one of the shortest players

in the league he dunked it on Yao Ming Nate Robbins Nate Robbins how did I forget his name sorry Nate I love you but he just benched him I have to say you didn't love him

you can remember his name I remember his name but I've been drinking but he benched him and then when he came back that game he went off for like 35 points

or something like that I'm gonna love when you guys you know the more and more as your star rises and people are like you guys should

produce this or do that and the first documentary project you do is the 2013 Knicks all our documentaries are going off who wants this

it's a whole documentary we do there's a whole Roy Hibbert section nobody understands to Knicks. All our documentaries are going to be Who wants this? We do. There's a whole Roy Hibbert section nobody understands. All our movies are going to be about He killed Tyson Chandler in 20 minutes.

They're going to be very short time pieces of the Knicks. They're just going to be very specific. They're going to be like remember the third week of 2002.

The pre. They're going to be like what happened then? I was like you got to watch. You got to watch. This is how you know we're watched Knick fans because I was watching the whole thing with Kevin Love and how he came on the court and possibly could have gotten suspended.

He was already on the court. You know what I automatically thought of? Yeah, I know. I know. What was it? What was it? One of those series you got boned over. Nick's Miami.

Nick's Miami. What year? It's all a blur. 94. Bad basketball to me. 94. Patrick Ewing was on the court. No, it blur. 94. Patrick Ewing was on the court.

No, it wasn't 94. It was like 96. Was that 96? With PJ Brown? Yeah. That was 96? Was it? I thought it was 99.

When they were the eighth seed and the whole brawl happened and everybody got ejected and PJ Brown got suspended. Yeah, yeah. No, no. Was that? There was one

where it was favorable to you guys. That was 99. Oh, yeah. This was the one when all the dudes didn't play. Yeah. Some bad basketball in the 90s with the Knicks. The Knicks, the New Yorkers don't want to admit it.

Oh, we don't want to admit it because we lived it and it's terrible. Do you think the most... But the Knicks were the only team to take Mike to seven games consistently. It is true. You know what I'm saying? By beating the living shit out of that dude. We have a banner hanging from Massachusetts. We took Mike to seven every time.

That parade was so good. Took him to seven. But, yo, there was other duos that didn't do it. It's true. Kemp and Payton and Stockton Malone, like all these iconic Hall of Fame duos, they couldn't do it. But Pat and Stocks did it.

The most Knicks thing ever would be LeBron actually signing with the Knicks this summer and then his body breaking down from that point on. Oh, absolutely. That would happen. That would be 50 years of Knicks history. That's why I don't want him to sign with the Knicks. Because I was like, I knew once he signs with the Knicks,

his knees are going to collapse. Everything's going to be gone. It's going to be a wrap. Wow. LeBron on a Knicks. He's really well-conditioned. Just losing on a Tuesday night by 30 points. No. Just getting booed. You really think LeBron

is good enough to come here and save the Knicks? I mean, LeBron and KP, bro? I gotta say. It never works like that for the Knicks, though. You know it never works like that. This was the year for me that proved that LeBron and any four guys could make the finals. Yeah. Because Jeff Green, who I rooted for and

hurt my feelings many times, and who's been on six teams, all of who took a long sample of him and then said, you know what we should do is get rid of Jeff Green, who had never played two straight games well and it's really his entire life that mattered. And then game six, game seven against Boston, he plays well both games. And it was because LeBron just sucked that performance out of him. Which is, I don't know.

I'm starting to reevaluate how I feel about him. LeBron makes mediocre players better. He does. Because you have a chance. Like, Jair Smith is a guy, he might be out of the court with you. Like, you're like, oh, I'm playing with LeBron. You're going to step in the game. Like, dudes like J.R. and Jeff Green and Tristan Thompson is not.

It's coming off the bench for every other NBA team. Watch the Jamaican slander. You know what I'm saying? Because my man, Tristan Thompson. Is he Jamaican? Yeah. That's why. His middle name is like Trevor or some shit.

It's like Tristan Trevor Thompson. What do you think of the new, you'll love this story. So Tristan Thompson, Draymond, Tristan Thompson does the, I'll see you over there. Yeah. Does the point, which is like, I feel like that started, what, the last three years? The point to the runway?

Let's go fight over there. Let's get off the court. So like 45 minutes later, we're in the back. And, you know, the Oracle's like, it's a million years old, and you got to watch. And the press conference room is, so everybody's kind of there. And Tristan Thompson and Draymond Green are like four feet away from each other at one point i'm thinking it's like they're not even making eye contact it's like what happened

and they all say the same shit at the end of the game well you know it's a passionate game i showed emotion blah blah blah whatever my agent told me to say right Right. Like, I don't know how, like, real that tension is. Like, I feel like there's some validity to it, like, in the moment. No, you know, the last time. I feel like they really want to kick each other's ass. No, the last time you saw someone real. Remember when Melo was waiting for KD? Oh.

Not KD. KG. KG. Yeah, Kip Garnett. With the whole. That was different. He wanted all the smoke. He was on the team bus.

He didn't want to finish the game like he was just he talked about his girl yeah he was waiting at the bus you gotta admit that it seems like

and a new hat too it seems like that's the one place that that's the one line ask Drake ask Drake don't talk about people's girls moms, girlfriends, mistresses, wives

wives yeah we don't talk about daughters obviously but yeah yeah we apologize actually daughters is probably the ultimate third rail nobody would say oh yeah oh my god Wives. Yeah, we don't talk about names and wives. And daughters, obviously. Yeah, yeah. We apologize. Actually, daughters is probably the ultimate third rail. Nobody would say that.

Oh, yeah. Oh, God. Cameron did Nas's. I'm saying him basketball. Oh, okay. That's right. Yeah, well, yeah. Like, someone's going to say something to Steph Curry about Riley?

Like, you know, that's not. Imagine. Come on. Imagine you're on the half court like, yeah, yeah. Riley looking cute. Like, no. No. Imagine theron whispers some shit like that in his ear

like after blocking the layup Steph Curry would be like that's just weird I'm not even mad it was just fucking his whole head like he wouldn't even

know what to do he's just chewing it like what was that I don't know so that play yesterday I thought was really interesting so LeBron the game's over

LeBron pins the Curry layup to the back. And then talk shit to him. And Curry's like, come on, dude. Yeah. He's in,

but kind of came at him and like stood his ground. Yeah. And then they went and LeBron gives him the bully shove. Clay Thompson kind of comes over. He wanders out of his. I'm going to do something. I'm the human PBS logo. I'm here to start justice.

Conflict. And, here to start justice. I see conflict. And they start. Something starts. But it did make me think. I think all these guys get along. They're on the Olympic team. Deep down, they're all. LeBron and KD, they compete.

But I'm sure they get along. They see each other. They do an eight-step handshake. There's no anger. It's like when I play 2K with my brother. I love my brother. You know what I mean? But when we play 2K, we're like mortal enemies.

But I don't think LeBron and Curry like each other. No, I don't think so. I think that's a real thing. I think when Curry won that two MVPs and became the beloved star of the league, and people are showing up to watch him warm up two hours for the game, and LeBron is like, what the fuck? I'm the best part in the league. And I don't think they like each other.

I have no evidence at all. Remember when Curry was mocking him at the wedding? Oh, yeah. That's right. Curry mocked him. LeBron tries to bully ball him. And then LeBron did the whole RIP to the cookies thing. There's definitely their competitors.

But I think you're right. On a basic level, they probably do not like each other. They're on each other's corner. Right? Yeah. And you know, like, Le basic level, they probably do not like each other. They're on each other's corner. Right? Yeah. And you know, like, LeBron, he's talking about Curry. Like, his wife has a Food Network show. Why do we have to hear about his wife?

What a loser. Why is Hanson on the book? JR, what do you think? Yo, see, my wife on TV cooking. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Fuck out of here.

Ridiculous. Okay. Why's his kids all yellow? What's that about? What's that? What's that? Can we talk about the giant long beard? You know, see, my kids talking crazy at this press conference.

They know where they place. They're children. They shouldn't be at the post game. Back in my day, children weren't in the post game. Exactly. Wait, what car commercial is Steph Curry in now? Is he also doing Kia? Hell no.

Because he had an ad yesterday. My rule is if you're doing a car commercial, you have to drive the car. Well, LeBron says he drives his Kia. I mean, he lives in Cleveland. I believe it. I just don't believe it. That's a Benz in Cleveland. Yo, he's killing it in Cleveland.

I think LeBron has. He's like, oh, he got the K900? Oh, shit. LeBron has cars where the doors go up. Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't have a normal car. He probably takes the Kia to Trader Joe's and shit.

You know what I mean? Can LeBron take him to Kia? Put shades on and a little pork pie hat and goes to get his shrimp linguine or whatever he likes. What do you think happens to LeBron when he retires? Because Kobe has been kind of fascinating what's happened with him since he retired. I think LeBron would be a great analyst.

In that vein of Kobe, where Kobe breaks down games or whatever, but even better. How we mentioned last time we were here, how A-Rod is such a great analyst. Like in that vein of Kobe where Kobe like breaks down games or whatever, but like even better. Yeah. How we mentioned last time we were here, like how A-Rod is such a great analyst. Are we sure A-Rod's a great analyst? I love A-Rod as an analyst. Okay.

We still like him? Yeah, for now. I love him. We can listen to him. We can listen to him. That booth's awkward. It's the ESPN Sunday Night. It's awkward.

It's awkward. I mean, like if you have him and Poppy on the same show, that's entertainment. Or him and Pedro on the same show, It's awkward. It's awkward. I mean, like, if you have him and Poppy on the same show, that's entertainment. Or him and Pedro on the same show, that's entertainment. I just don't understand baseball announcing. What do you mean? Why it can only, the conversation can only resemble a certain type of conversation.

Like, they would never be like, hey, ESPN Sunday night baseball. It's the three of us. Right. We're doing nine innings. People, like, they'd have fucking stroke. They're head for baseball. The 80-year-old dude in, like, you know, Boca Raton, Florida. What are they talking about?

They're talking too fast. Oh my God. It's hard to do baseball analysis. There was a Yankee game the other day and it wasn't even a blowout or anything. It was a very close game. I think it might've been the Red Sox series or whatever. The announcers were talking about what materials were used in different bridges around the boroughs.

Yeah. It's wild. I was like, it's the fourth hour. You got a lot of hours to kill. I saw John Sterling turned 80. It's the only sport where as you get older, it's actually an advantage to be a baseball announcer. They're like, oh, wow.

He's 110. My favorite part of Yankee radio broadcast is just hearing him try to predict if it's a home run or if it's like a fly ball. He's like, it's gone. It's far. He catches it at second base. He makes the catch with room. That was like Marv Albert in the

Pacers series with Victor Oladipo and Darren Collison. He just had no idea. It was a coin flip each time. Two for Collison. Oladipo. Collard Greens to the rack. I can't see. Once they start mixing up the dudes,

it gets tough. Yeah, I mean, listen, Marv Albert has a checkered past. He said checkered past. Wow. All my millennials Google that. To say the least. Marv Albert's all New York, though.

I thought you would blindly defend Marv Albert. Yeah, we do. We would blindly defend, but that was wild had blindly defended Marv Albert. Yeah. You got to do. We had blindly defended, but that was wild. That was wild. That was where I was like, wow. And I was like, Marv Albert? Marv Albert? As the details came out, it got weirder and weirder.

At first, it was just like, oh, you know, you had a woman up in your room. Yeah. Potential sex worker, whatever. I don't know. Maybe your girlfriend. Oh, you bitter? That's what you did.

Bang! But no kick shaming, you know, whatever. Oh, you were also wearing women lingerie okay cool fine it was a different nba yeah it was different different times different times i don't know if lebron survives that nba there was no hand checking what do you uh what do you expect i don't even want to know what you mean by that what do you expect from LeBron going forward

do we expect like angry Denzel last 45 minutes a man on fire how would you feel after that ending of game one how would you feel coming into game two I was texting a buddy of mine today and I sent this text unironically didn't realize how crazy it was until after I looked at it again

I was like no i think they can win too lebron just needs to get 45 yeah but i said it like like it's not like like it was like he's going to get cheetos from the fridge or something because oh lebron yeah and that's why i always say like yo listen my youthful hatred for michael jordan aside you expect him to do that like this is what Jordan was like, though. By the 93 playoffs, they're down 2-1. Oh, he'll drop 55.

Yeah, it's fine. No big deal. What was the game four against the Knicks? He got 55 the game before Charles Smith. He's just like, oh yeah, he'll be fine. It's so easy for him now. After that game one loss, he might just come in on a whole new level. In the Celtics series,

in that game seven, when he had that, it was the last, when Morris grabbed him, he had the ball and he was just kind of like not, he was running up court at a normal speed. And then he just hit the half court line and turned into this weird, the LeBron

gear and just zoomed up the court and just went to yam it. But then, like, this guy grabs him. So he's just like, oh, I'm just going to switch into a layup and totally control my body. You know, like, despite having a seven foot tall grown man who weighs 300 pounds hanging off my back. Like, how do you do that? You know what I'm saying? He had one of those yesterday. Yeah. With, like, two and a half minutes left. off my back like how do you do that you know i'm saying like he had one of those yesterday yeah

like with like two and a half minutes left the drive and he went into somebody full speed bounce backwards held the ball in the air and then flipped it one-handed and i was like in person that was it's not holy fucking shit yeah so he so he was so close to a victor already and then to have it snatched away so he still had you know he still has a taste in his mouth he's coming in for blood game two. He was so mad that I was scared. I didn't know if he was just going to look at me and be like, fuck that guy. Fuck, I hate you.

Fuck you looking at Bill. I heard what he said. You kind of look like Skip Bayless. I'm going to kill you. And when he stormed out the press conference, that was the most aggressive yet sassy exit I've ever seen because he walked out and he was like,

no, I'm not taking this. Let me grab my bag. That's a big ass bag, LeBron. But he's so big, I can't say, I'd be like, that's a cool bag. I like that bag, yo.

What are some better moves than A, what James Harden and Chris Paul do, which is just they give one sentence answers and they're just assholes. Yeah.

LeBron does the storm out of the press conference. Nobody like mocks these guys. We need more sarcasm. We need more sarcasm though. Yeah, we do. What was J.R.'s state of mind? I don't know.

What am I, a fucking psychologist? Do you know J.R. Smith? Y'all motherfuckers report on this shit. You know J.R. Smith? What do you think was on his mind besides Hennessy? He said he doesn't drink Hennessy. He says he does not. J.R. Smith does not drink Hennessy.

He says he does not drink Hennessy. But he also said, he also thought they had the lead. So, I mean, anything is possible. I'm circumcised. Durant. I think Durant Durant thought George Show was going to make

that free throw I thought so too he decides not to box out J.R. Smith by the way if J.R. Smith puts that back in everybody's like

Kevin Durant he quit on the play that's true did J.R. Smith save LeBron yesterday from being because if they lost

does the blame go on if say the whole debacle at the end with JR missing the shot or whatever and somehow that same play happens and Curry wins

Curry hits that shot they go ahead and he misses the free throw yeah does LeBron get the blame for that game or who gets the blame from Skip Bayless

he would yeah from the normal human beings because he passed to George Hill and was taken in himself I don't know LeBron always seems to make the right play yeah I'm'm turning into like a lebron you know what i don't like it it's

not even apologies but it's reality like you and when they break it down at the end of the game you do this for a living bro you see like they'll break it down and i'll be like hey lebron has this guy over here and this guy over here this is the better pass like he has a split second to make this decision he can make the pass to this guy or he can make the pass to this guy this is the better pass like he has a split second to make this decision he can make the pass to this guy or he can make the pass to this guy this is the proper you know what i mean move to make and he makes that move in like a millisecond tim lagler did a good job all the time tim lagler broke down after game seven how lebron was using jalen brown on jalen brown on defense to decide what he was going to do to attack the Celtics on each play.

So like if Jalen Brown went over here, he would slide in and then find this other guy. And it was all like, like LeBron was playing chess and Jalen Brown didn't even know he was on the board. He's like, oh, how'd that happen again? As much as I hate the Celtics,

like everybody on that team is like 19 years old. Yeah. You know what I mean? Including the coach. So it's like, so it's team is like 19 years old. Yeah. You know what I mean? Including the coach. So it's like, you know, you can't, you know. Our best player had no idea he was our best player. Yeah, you're no cool. He would make two great plays,

and then he would extend the corner. His mom was like, you're the best, you're the best. And he was like, Jesse, go get the ball. That's me? That's me? Oh. So predictions for the rest of the series? Oh, that's a good question.

Because after, I was like, let me see game one. I don't think sweep. I do not think sweep. No, absolutely not. I actually predicted on a podcast that LeBron was going to come back from the deficit that they faced last time. On your podcast?

Yeah. So this is a sloppy seconds podcast prediction? Yeah, I didn't even hear it. No, no, no. I believe that LeBron can pull this off. And you think LeBron can win the series? I think LeBron can win the off. And you think LeBron can win the series? I think LeBron can win the series. All he needs is one person to give him like 25 points or 30 points.

One person. Kevin Love? Anybody. Kevin Love. Fucking Tristan Thompson. Literally anybody. Some help. Because he's angry now, bro.

He's pissed off. So he's probably at home doing the crossfit ropes right now on a ball. In a pool. He's spinning it on his head. Curling his kids. He's doing all that working out. What's J.R. Smith? So we're like.

Yeah. So guess how many touches J.R. Smith is going to get in this next game? Probably like three. The worst part is watch J.R. Smith is going to get in this next game? Probably like three. The worst part is, watch J.R. Smith be super hot. Watch J.R. Smith have one of those games where he can't miss anything except the most important shot at the end of the game. You know how it works. But I don't think sweep.

I do not think sweep. I think we're going to get a good competitive series. I was actually glad that game one was kind of even. I didn't want to see like a total blowout kind of thing. I thought at the end of the last playoffs, Durant and LeBron were like this. Like same level. Maybe Durant was like a smidge higher because he was a better two-way player. And now it just seems like this.

You think KD's a better defender than LeBron? I thought he was last year. Okay. I just think he works harder because I think LeBron has to do so much for his team. He kind of, he's picking spots to save himself um like even this series he's like i'll guard draymond green and it's like yeah because you can leave them open by 10 feet imagine it was like a 80 free throw shooter or like a 85 or mid high 80s free throw shooter right and that's probably the biggest nitpick we'd have at this point yeah like he can't like he he blows free throws i mean how do you feel about his hair these days i know it's a big topic i wear hats all the time so i'm not allowed to comment yeah

me too like i under lebron i feel the struggle you have a lot of money you could get hair plugs would you just shave it though if you're him yeah yeah yeah like he has the like he's like but then the the jordan comparisons are really start like yeah's like but then the Jordan comparisons will really start yeah he might not have the bald head what about the giant long beard he looked weird bald

that one time we did see him with fully cut off before the season when he was working out so I wouldn't recommend that for him he's a little scary

what about the neck beard though the beard I mean it kind of works it's a playoff beard it's a beard it makes it easier to have like a LeBron Halloween mask with a beard because you could just easier to have like a LeBron Halloween mask

With a beard? Because you could just You could be like a little 8 year old kid You could have that or just be like the giant beard But see I think most people see that They think Harden levels Because then it's just like yo you're biting my style You know what I mean?

It kind of feels like he is though Harden's beard is definitely Harden's beard It's kind of like I was here in the beard corner first And then Tyson Chandler tried to get out here Harden's beard is definitely Harden's beard I was here in the beard corner first And then Tyson Chandler tried to get out here Harden's beard is like some other shit bro Cause like you can barely see his mouth If LeBron wanted to claim the beard There's nothing Harden could do about it

He just has like his ID in it against his arena James Harden's bottom Of his face looks like an extremely Hairy ass His mouth is like the bubble And like everything else is just beard You know what I mean? I don't know what asses you've been looking at of his face looks like an extremely hairy ass. His mouth is like the bubble and everything else is just beard. You know what I mean? I don't know what asses you've been looking at.

Like my own in the mirror. Yeah. Don't need that visual. We'll be breaking this down on Kobe Bryant's detail tonight. What's your prediction for the series? What do you think? I thought five. As the game was going yesterday, I thought six. And now I think

five again. Because Cleveland should have won last night and they didn't. You can't give away finals games. It's never worked ever in the history of the league. I love that quote right there because that's what I'm going to say when I'm old and drunk at bars. It's really deep to a young kid. I'll be like, can't be giving away finals games. Can't be giving away finals games. You only got seven. That's it. You only got seven.

You don't have seven games? You only got six left. Every position counts. Every position counts. But that's a real thing though. It's it. You only got seven. You weigh one, you only got six left. Every position counts. Every position counts. But that's a real thing though. Every position counts. Here's the thing. You know what's hard? Winning five of seven games. So this is basically what they have to do now because it's like they won yesterday

even though they didn't. And now they have to win another four. And I don't know. Usually game ones are the feel-out games. I think they'll win all the home games i think they'll win all the home games and i think if they i i think they still want to oracle honestly i like what i believe in the power of lebron what conditioning trick does lebron have left at this point other than just taking the blood cells of his children and like while we joke let's not forget they didn't they once turn off the AC on him? And that didn't stop him.

The Spurs. Yeah. You think that was intentional? That was definitely intentional. A big old arena like that, you can't get the AC working before a playoff game and there's no backup system or anything? I was doing TV that year and I was wearing a suit.

And I mean, we all almost passed out. I can't tell you how hot it was in there. It was like 115 degrees in there. And we're trying to do live TV. And like all of us, the makeup's like pouring. And then LeBron is over there, like running up and down the court. Yeah. A million miles an hour. If they did that, that was smart.

That was gotta try. Gotta try. Let's talk about Yankees Red Sox really quick. Yeah. Really quick. The rookie comes in. All our Yankees Red Sox conversations are like Yankees Red Sox really quick. Yeah. Really quick? The rookie comes in. All our Yankees Red Sox conversations are like Yankees Red Sox games. It lasts four and a half hours.

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One of my favorite pieces of content to do, period. Anyway, back to Desus and Mero. All right, Red Sox, Yankees, the rivalry's back. It feels good. Yeah, we talked about this the last time. The big change was your rookie came up, and he's been awesome. Glaber. Now the Yankees are flexing a little bit.

You know, we got a couple of what the doctor called Gleyber pains. Yeah. That's right, Mike Francesco, come for your job. No, it's exciting. It's fun to watch baseball again. The energy around Red Sox-Yankees I know is great now because other people are getting annoyed. Other people are like, no one cares about the Red Sox and Yankees. And Red Sox-Yankee fans are like, excuse you.

There's other cities that play baseball. Well, they don't matter. Sorry, Houston. People are just like, the greatest rivalry in sports. And I was like, I better hear Red Sox and Yankees come out your mouth.

Because if not, I don't know what we're talking about here. I like having the Astros involved too, though. It's like a three-man wrestling match or something. But it's kind of like,

all right, slow down. Slow down. You're new here. You're new here. You won last year. Because they're like, yeah, we're going to get two rings this year. I was like, let right, slow down. Then relax. Slow down. You're new here. You're new here. You were last year. Because they're like, yeah, we're going to get two rings this year. I was like, let's keep it down. Chill.

You guys sucked for an eternity. I was like, that's nothing. You're being disrespectful to the Red Sox also. This is our beef between them. You guys will do what you visit. It's like the Astros coming in with a steel chair. Like, no. Yeah.

Get out of the ring. It's like when you're fighting with your older brother, and then your little sister gets it. You're like, whoa. Whoa, what are you doing here? Like, stop. Get out of here. You're's like when you're fighting with your older brother and then your little sister gets it. You're like, whoa. Whoa, what are you doing here? Like, stop. Get out of here. You're going to get in trouble with mom. My new dad is going to get mad.

Like, come on. And it really bothers Astro fans because they'll come to Yankee Stadium. We know nothing about the Astros because we're idiot Yankee fans. So we don't know people's names. We're just like, who's the short horse jockey guy? The guy. He's annoying. The little guy.

I hate this fucking little guy. Oh, the Little League guy. Why is he allowed to be so short? His center of gravity. Who's the. The little guy. I hate this fucking little guy. The little, oh, the little league guy. Why is he allowed to be so short? His center of gravity was the strike zone. Yeah, what is the strike zone?

What's it for him? Well, that's like, that's why Verlander's so important. Hey, Verlander, nice pictures. Oh,

I love him. Verlander, and he got booed coming out the game. Did you see that? He put it on us. He put it on us. Yeah,

he did. Well-deserved pitching. Shout out to him. He's kind of like us. He's Jason. He's Jason. He's getting booed by Yankee Stadium. And he's just like, nah, I don't care.

But he was like, I'm fucking Justin Verlander. He was like, he tipped his hat to everyone. They started booing louder. I was like, you talk your socks, Justin. There is a buzz that's back in Yankee Stadium. It's starting to feel like the old stadium on TV. I haven't been there in person yet to see it. But it feels like the TV vibe and the standing on two strikes,

like it's all starting to feel like the Yankees again. But it's taking 10 years. It's taking 10 years. And it's always like they're always paying over to like the random like Teamster guy and like, you know, the old Babe Ruth. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck yeah.

Get him. He's got like a. Severino. That's my guy. He's got a sandwich in his hand and a beer. Yeah, Cy Young, here we come, baby. A real blue-collar type guy. But yeah, after it feels like... Brett Gardner's gutty.

A lot of grit. Gordy B. You got anywhere I could put my lunch pail? All right. It's funny when Brett Gardner's like the elder statesman now of the Yankees. I remember when he was like the young speedster. He's weirdly clutch, though. He is. I'm always afraid when he comes up in big spots

against the Red Sox. He hit that big Da Vinci, Homer against Da Vinci the other night. He gets those little bullshit pop-ups that just fall right when you need them. He works counts, but he does what Cano used to do, where he would just go make a pitcher throw 100,000 pitches and that That's the thing. He can foul it off,

foul it off, foul it off. It's a fucking struggle to get him out. You need guys like that in a playoff team. I love the art of people fouling off an 0-2 pitch and just keep fouling. Fouling off on purpose. Like, yo, go ahead. We do this all day, baby. Let's go. I know you're on the pitch count, you jerk.

Matter of fact, I'm going to step out the box. Slow the game down a little more. Did we do a pod after the Joe Kelly fight when he came to Yankee Stadium? I don't think we did. No, we didn't. We didn't, dude. That's when I really felt like the rivalry was back. That's when it came back. When he came out of the bullpen and the fans were like,

I was like, all right. Because to have a boy like that. A guy like Joe Kelly on the Yankees would be beloved. Oh, my God. He'd be the greatest player ever. Everybody in Staten Island would be like, Joe Kelly on the Yankees would be beloved. Oh, my God. He'd be the greatest player ever. Everybody in Staten Island would be like, Joe Kelly, that's my guy. That's a guy right there. We'd have him in Monument Park before the season's even over.

Just retire his number. There will be another fight between these two teams. There has to be. It's going to be an 8-2 game on a Friday night, and somebody will throw at somebody. Yeah, CeCe Sabathia's going to pile drive somebody on the pitchers now. I can't wait. It's good, man. Now you only need the Knicks to come back.

See, we were having a good time. They can. They can. What do you have? The 8th pick? 10th pick? 9th pick? 9th pick. You never know. You never know. It's one of those weird drafts where the 9th pick could be the second best guy in the draft. You never know. That's the thing those weird drafts where the ninth pick could be the second best guy in the draft.

Yeah. You never know. That's the thing about the draft. It's just like, dude, you look back in history, and there's guys that were picked 28th, 27th. Donovan Mitchell, 13th. You know what I mean? And it's just like, wow, we passed up on this guy. No, you didn't pass up on him. Yeah, it wasn't guaranteed.

Your scouts were trash, and they didn't see something or the guy developed in the league or whatever. There's a lot of guys in this draft too that with the Knicks fans where if you talk to them before the draft,

like, Trey Young, he's hot garbage. He'll suck. He'll suck. He's no Steph Curry. Or like Michael Porter, he won't stay healthy

but then if the Knicks take the victory. Trey Young, he's going to own MSG. That's the beauty. That's the beauty of the Knicks. That's the beauty of the Knicks. We went to the NBA drafts

where they picked Chris Dabb we booed we were at Barclays Center we were like we walked out it was like who is who

what the fuck who the fuck is this guy the whole crowd is just booed it was out of control we were in the elevator going down in Barclays

and everybody from Long Island was in that elevator like I can't believe this garbage another fucking Euro guy set 8 foot 12 this guy's just gonna be in Barclays and everybody from Long Island was in that elevator like, I can't believe this garbage. Another fucking Euro guy. Watch, you're going to hurt his back. He's probably never going to play in the league.

This guy's just going to be a dunk machine. The fucking poster to get dunked on. This guy's garbage. Shout out to our guy, Real Life Kaz. He threw a NBA draft party for the night where they picked Chris Stapps. It was in Midtown Manhattan. He's on camera. He takes his Knick hat

and tosses it off the side of the building. Seriously? Seriously. Now people replay it now. I remember how fast this flipped though in town Manhattan he's on camera he takes his Nick hat and tosses it off the side of the building seriously? seriously now people replay it I remember how fast this flipped though because all the Nick's fans

I knew were furious then there's a summer league game and he went against Okafor and all the Nick fans watched it

ready to be like oh let's watch this game and we'll shit on Porzingis together and then the game's gone and they're like oh wait this guy's 7 for 3 is he better than Okafor? yeah hey did you notice like, oh, let's watch this game and we'll shit on Porzingis together. And then the game's gone. And they're like, oh, wait a second. This guy's 7 for 3.

Is he better than Okafor? Yeah. Hey, did you notice Okafor can't score on him? Hey, did you see that 3? And then by the end of the game, everybody's like, we're in. I remember. And it's funny. He was trending on Twitter.

And I was like, yeah. He broke his leg or something. Yeah. And it's funny because I was kind of pro-Okafor at first. And I was just like, wait a minute. Isn't that who we wanted? We went to the draft and wanted him. It was a rare Knicks break.

Really, the Sixers could have taken Porzingis, and you get Okafor, and then he's a disaster. It's like, oh, we're one pick away from Porzingis. I'll admit, as a Knicks fan, we don't know shit. We're just blindly Knicks fans. Bro, I wanted them to draft Malik Monk. You know what I mean? Who I didn't realize was 5'8 at the time. He's not.

Don't give up on Malik. That's who I thought they should take it to. But, yeah, Mitchell passing on him is not. And didn't LeBron say something about that? Like, oh, he's a diamond in the rough or something like that? I'm in on Malik Monk. The thing we always learn with the NBA is these guys go to the wrong teams, and it doesn't go well for them.

And then they end up on the right team. And all of a sudden, they're like, oh, this guy's good. This guy's great. Could you imagine if Steph Curry ended up on the Knicks? On that draft? He would not be the Steph Curry he is now.

Well, see, I don't... He would have gotten hurt. Yeah. Because he had those ankle things. And the Warriors were really smart about trying to help him. And, oh, you got to relearn how you walk and shoe lifts.

Knicks would have been like, get out there play yeah play defense actually i mean if you want to play defense because melo isn't now dan dan tony definitely would have played him 43 minutes giving him seven stress fractures curry be on the show with you right now he'd be like three man show once a nick a Nick. Give it up for retired Nick Legend, Steph Curry. That gave me 30 points. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that.

What was that, like 0-2? That was before your ankle splittered in nine directions. I was like, how far do you think you would have went? You think you would have gotten a ring eventually in the league? Yeah. Well, I never know. You could have been an all-star team, right? I mean, I no longer have ankles, so you don't have to carry me out of here.

So what I remember from the three seasons I played was, you know, it was just wonderful. A lot of praises to God and such. You know, when the garden was eaten. Step, step. Like, yo, come on, man. We're just sitting there. I'm like, what is this, a rain delay? Is the Yankee Google stuff?

I feel like we've said this several times on your podcast. I feel like the Knicks are not going to be good until James Dolan either disappears on the lost island. I think we should be required to say it each time. Yeah. Can the commissioner do something about that? Can the commissioner say, look, you're running this team terribly? Because, yo, they stopped the Chris Paul trade. Why can't they step in and be like, yo, you're the owner of this team, but you're running it into the ground?

Because it's his team. And this is a historic franchise. It's still printing money. I think Dan Gilbert might be the only unlikable, probably not that good owner, who's actually succeeded. All right, so why did he succeed? He won the lottery with LeBron. One of the two best players of all time. I mean, Kyrie.

LeBron left, and he won three lotteries in four years. He got Kyrie, and he got the pick to trade for Kevin Love. And, you know, if none of that stuff happens, he might just be James Dolan in the Midwest. Except James Dolan is opening for Jewel. So how do you feel? Is that true? Yeah, he went on tour with her. He's opening for Jewel.

For JD and the Shore Shots? Yes. JD and the Straight Shots. Straight Shots. Sorry, James. Come on. Who was the name of the actor that has to pay for his seats now? Because he kept slandering the Knicks.

Ethan Hawke. Ethan Hawke. He was on my podcast. That's how it was. I broke that story. Was that a story? Look at you. Look at.

Yeah, I didn't know. I'm upbreaking over here. First of all, Ethan Hawke was one of the best guests I've had in like two years. Yeah? Second of all, he's a real basketball fan. And third, I had no idea he feuded with J.D. and the Straight Shot. Who knew? I'm looking at all these people. You guys would like Ethan

Og. You should have him on your show. He was honestly one of the best guests I've had. He's like one of the cool people when you see him sit in courtside basketball. You're like, oh, I know you. And then Steve Shariff was just grabbing the camera like, look at me. I'm Steve Shariff. Bobby Bacala. Hey, look at me. Hey. I got my Lobel steak sandwich. That's why I came here. I'm leaving

now. Come on. All right, PJ. He's got Lofini. You're my guy. Well, he's also one of those. Yeah, I remember in 91, I was there with River Phoenix when Jordan dunked on. Like, he's got at games with famous people. Right, right, right. So what's going on with your show?

Same thing? Plugging away? Still plugging away. Play's still going on. Who we got coming up? We actually have Pusha T. He's going to be on the show coming up. Yeah.

That should be a good interview. That should be very interesting. And Drake might come up from behind stage and like send him to the chair. If one of them doesn't kill the other. Ah, nobody's killing nobody.

Nobody's killing nobody. Yeah, it's rap. And it's funny because somebody asked me like on Twitter like somebody's career is going to get ended. I was like,

nobody's career is going to get ended. It's 2018. Pusha T is like backed by kanye drake is drake like also push the t's fans are older like i'm a pusha t there's very little pusha t could do right now to make me turn my back on them i never think it's the guys it's always the guys around the guys that seem to cause the problems i will say this though as somebody who

loved reading everything about the biggie tupac thing in the moment and was always fascinated by that story. Now there's like too much material on it. Yeah. There's miniseries and documentaries and it's like, guess what?

I'm okay with that knowing who killed either guy. I'm fine with it. You got the gist. You don't have to see, we watch it. You know what happened? They made songs about

how they wanted to kill each other and then they both died. Yeah. Probably some shady dudes did it. They're like Biggie versus Pac coming to theaters. I'm not going to sit down and paint a Jesus. Johnny Depp's in that. That's why they're like- Probably some shady dudes did it. They're like Biggie versus Pac coming to theaters. I'm not going to sit down and paint a Jesus.

Johnny Depp's in that. I'm like, no, I don't want to. I know the general story. Who did Johnny Depp play? Pazoo Park? Johnny Depp's playing like the police sergeant. He played Biggie in a fat suit.

He plays everybody like Eddie Murphy. But he's using his accent from Pirates of the Caribbean. That's how I would say Tyler Perry of the Caribbean. Please shut up. He's so nice. That's how I see Tyler Perry as Biggie versus Tupac. Oh.

Tyler Perry's playing seven guys. Biggie. Biggie. How you doing, Biggie? Hello. Holler if you hear me. Nothing else to plug? San Francisco, why are you here?

We're here for Clusterfest. Yeah, Clusterfest. It already happened. Is it already happening? San Francisco having a lovely time here. We have a for Clusterfest. Yeah, Clusterfest. It already happened. It already happened. We're having a lovely time here. We have a show in Chicago. We got one in Atlanta coming. We got Seattle coming.

That's going to be an exciting show. Yeah, Seattle's good. I've never been to Seattle. Seattle sold out. I mean, was sold high numbers super fast. I was very surprised. Shout out to the Pacific Northwest. I'm going to drop third person on myself here.

It's a Bill Simmons favorite city. Yeah, you like it? Seattle. What's good about it? If they had an NBA team, I think I would have moved there at some point. Really? I just like it over there. I like the people.

They love basketball. They like all the things I like there. Recreational is legal out there. It's nice. It's cool. Seattle people are cool. I recommend Seattle. I hope you stay there for a couple days.

We hope. Because every time we go places, we don't have enough time to spend in the city. Explore the city. Yeah. You want to do like the four day out. So this is going to be the future for you guys a little bit, these live shows. Yeah. Get out, meet the people.

Get out, tour the country. Then we probably do international. We got some shows in Lebanon and Chad. Do you structure the live shows? Slovenia? Nah, not at all. I mean by structure. No, do you structure it like, all right, first 15 minutes we're doing this, second 15?

Oh, we just, it's just, we do the intro, then we just kind of like wow for about an hour. It's like a double standard show. We have a question to answer at the end. That's like the only structure we have. But other than that, no. That's got to be funny. It's like avant-garde jazz, man. Yeah.

It's funny because if you go out there without a game plan, the crowd kind of helps you. Because say we come here, we're like, oh, we're going to do rice-a-roni jokes in San Francisco. It's just like, they'll be like, fuck out, we don't eat rice-a-roni. So then it turns into a, whoa, what kind of rice? Well, what do you like? And then they're like, you have to go get rice from Paul's on Market Street. And someone else is like, the best rice is over on 3rd. And you're just sitting there and just having art.

And you're like, all right, well. It's part of the whole thing that we do that's like a hangout. You know what I mean? So it's interactive. I want to be in one. I want to invite myself on one of these live shows. You're always welcome, man. I want to come on one of them.

That's how unstructured we are, that you can literally just show up and be like, yo, I'm out. Like, Texas was- No, not even Texas. You could literally just walk on stage. Yeah, I'm here. Oh, shit.

I've done that with Carolla a couple times because he does the same thing. They're pretty much unstructured, but the crowd gets it, so they'll ride when there's a couple little blips along the way because they know

it'll hit the right spots. Right. It's good. It's fine. I don't have the talent to do that. We did the two shows in Boston.

Oh my God. If you would've walked out from behind stage Oh, how was that? Were they nice to you? Oh, it was so good. I came out there in the busy being New York Yankees, like half zip thing.

So we come out and the lights come on and everyone's cheering and they see his outfit and they just start booing. Yes. You would have thought we were like pitching game seven at Yankee Stadium. They were just flaming him and he's just like, yeah, yeah. They're going louder and louder but the game we played was after

was it game seven Celtics Philly yeah or game five game five so we played

our show was an hour after that game so it was shit we were in Boston the same night I didn't realize it was hit or miss because I remember

like they almost lost in the confetti and all that stuff and so I'm sitting there watching the game I'm like if they lose this game, we are going to get hell tonight. If they lose that game and you came out in that Yankee outfit, we did not leave Boston alive that night.

They won. You might as well have came out with Ben Simmons and fared better. But everyone is so happy the rivalry is back. Oh, yeah. This is fun. We're back, baby. It's fun. And it's like baseball needs little things like that. Like baseball, I love the rivalry is back. It's just, this is fun. It's fun. We're back, baby. It's fun, and it's like, baseball needs little things like that. Like, baseball, I love the game and everything, but sometimes you're just sitting there just

like, Jesus Christ. If you're 20 years old, you're like, yo, this is boring as shit. But, like, if there's drama, then it's just like, oh, I got a reason to watch this. My son will only watch, like, the last two innings with me. Yeah. He's like, I'll come back for the eighth inning. Yeah, same. The bad side for baseball. Almost every girl i've ever dated would be like oh this is a good i forgot to ask you about fortnight because that's all right we had to

take it away from my son because he was was he buying stuff uh both wow but he was starting to he you know he's getting mad when he's he's 10 and he's pissed off because somebody shot him in fortnight and then he's going to school and it's like he's going to get mad when he's 10, and he's pissed off because somebody shot him in Fortnite, and then he's going to school, and he's going to school pissed off. He's like, this probably isn't good. It's funny because my son is seven. He should be playing this. He shouldn't be playing this. It's a violent video game.

And he's, like, killing somebody with a pickaxe because he doesn't have a gun yet. And I'm just like, yo, get him, get him. Just keep walking in a circle. Keep going in a circle. Keep going in a circle. He can't hit you. And he just killed a guy with a pickaxe, and I was like, yo, get him, get him. Just keep walking in a circle. Keep going in a circle. Keep going in a circle. He can't hit you. And he just killed a guy with a pickaxe.

And I was like, yeah. And I high-fived him. And my wife was just like, you're ruining our show. This is terrible. My friend's son ran up $470 on in-app purchases. I got a call. To me, that's a parental fault. That's a parental thing.

That's how I was like, you don't want to deal with it. You didn't check the rent. It's very easy to control that. You've got to set up the parental control. I never did it because the Xbox was my thing. Well, you also make it so that you have to put the password in every time they buy something. Right. And they don't know the password.

That's it. They're not buying anything. To me, I have no kids. I'm like, they can buy stuff? Yeah. What? Kids can do what? Yeah.

It's wild because the Xbox was my domain. I got the Nintendo Switch. I was like, yo, this is your guy's thing. Here's your Super Mario. It's wild because the Xbox was my domain. I got the Nintendo Switch. I was like, yo, this is your guy's thing. Here's your Super Mario. Here's your Kirby. Here's your whatever. The Xbox is mine. Yeah.

All those games with the army guys on the front and the guns and the Madden and the 2K, that's all my shit. It's on this side of the TV screen. Now, Matthew, you're a little kid. Do you want to play this little whack-ass Nintendo Switch and play Mario Kart? Do you want to play Call of Duty 5 where you can rip out people's spines? You know what I'm saying? Which one looks better? Rob Markman You know what I mean? I didn't realize that. As you get older, it's like, I want to do the same shit my friends are doing. So his

little friend got Fortnite and he's like, Daddy, do you have Fortnite? And I was like, yeah, how did you know that? And he's like, Jaden plays Fortnite. And I was like, every badass kid is named Jaden, by the way. So he's like, Jaden has Fortnite. Rob Markman Except for Will Swiskin. Rob Markman You know, Fortnite low key. Rob Markman I call him a badass. Rob Markman Fortnite is just teaching kids architecture. Rob Markman Yeah, it is. Rob Markman It create a for now. Yeah, except for one Swiss kid. Yeah You know, for tonight. I'm a badass for is just teaching kids architecture Yeah, it's a gateway drug and it's funny because I remember my wife comes in I just switch over to the building mode and I'm like, oh His head is like

Like somebody comes out of air with a shotgun It was very humbling for me because I I was there for the entire era of video games. I was there from in the late 70s playing the stupid handheld Mattel football with the little dots. Like the LED whatever LCD thing. All the way through television and Atari and I was really good at video games but you get older, your reflexes

aren't as good. And then my son and his buddy Ben Williams is over and they're playing Fortnite and then it's like, Dad, you play one and I play and I'm terrible. And they're laughing at me. Who is old guy? You're like Kendrick Perkins.

I was like, Kendrick Perkins getting taunted by a trademark. I was like, well, you know what? Put on Pitfall and we'll see who sucks. Street Fighter 2, let's go.

They're like, no, I don't play that. I'll get the television. I'll be back. I miss Pac-Man. Let's see who sucks. I was watching this kid play Fortnite

and his mother was like, pause it and come here. She's like, you can't pause video games, Mom. She's so stupid. I was like, yeah, you used to be able to. Sorry. Yeah, kids are mean when they –

Jesus. They're like, you're so stupid. You don't know anything. Literally today before I flew out, my kids are making me feel like an asshole because he was playing Splatoon, which is like some game where you have to cover stuff with paint and turn into a squid and fly up this thing. And he's like, oh, can you beat this boss for me? And I was just like, yeah, of course I can.

I'm a video game master. I play every game. And I couldn't do it. And he's like, the look of disappointment in his face. He's like, you suck. And then my four-year-old grabs it and is just like, yo, you got to do this. And then beats it in two seconds.

I was just like, wow. I would have just taken the beats it in two seconds. I was just like, wow. I would have just taken the game system away from them. I'd be like, y'all are punishment. So my son's in fourth grade. And it's like a real thing. If you're not playing Fortnite, you're not in the loop. Yeah. It's very important.

So we'd take it away from him for a week because we were afraid he was going to stab one of us to death or something. Like, maybe take a break from this. You just go in his room like, why are you stockpiling all this lumber? What are you doing? Are you building a trap? We're like, Ben, you got to stop playing Fortnite. Fuck you! It's like, okay.

Okay, all right, all right. Don't kill us. Sorry, never mind. So we took it away for a week. He's like, I got to keep playing all this. Everyone else is playing. Everybody's leveling up and I'm not. And I'm left out of the conversations.

And they're playing. They're having a battle royale today. It's like, yeah, these are not real problems. These are not real problems whatsoever. I went into the barbershop the other day and it's full to capacity. And I'm just like, I'm never gonna get a cut. And I asked the barber, I was like, how many heads you got? Who's next? He was like, no, they're all

playing Fortnite. It's all these kids sitting around on their phone, and they meet in the barbershop, and they play. What? I was like, why don't y'all go steal cars and sell drugs? Go do something bad that teenagers do. What is this staying home and playing? You're being responsible. Well, now there's this carrot lingering over everything,

which we didn't have when you were kids. Like, you can actually make money from this now. Oh, yeah. My son's like, but dad, I'm going to be a gamer someday. I'm going to be an MLG. like you can actually make money from this now Oh, yeah, my son's like but dad I'm gonna be a gamer Like you see these tournaments and they're like legit there's like 20,000 people there it's yeah nuts Yeah, like I saw I watched something like this Dominican guy recently like won the world's tournament or whatever Wow, and I was just like wow Yeah, I was just like, wow. Big win for the Dominicans. Yeah. I was like, wow. Okay, cool.

So like I looked more into it and I watched like YouTube video of it and it was like in a legit arena. Yeah. There was thousands of people there watching on this giant monitor. This could be your next career move. You announced the E-League stuff. Nah. Not touching it until Francesa touched it.

I need my Francesa to start calling esports. Well, first of all, I think esports is bullshit. Hey, Mike, I got a trade in Fortnite. Go hang up and listen. Listen, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about here. Steve, give me another day of coffee. Have you gone on or are you... Would he ever have you on?

We're trying to have him on. I feel like he has no idea who we are. No, he mentioned us once. I'm going to work on that. Someone called once and was just like, hey, you ever heard of the Boday – Deezer DeMero on Vice Dad? They always talk about you. He hung up. He was like, yeah, apparently you must work for that show.

You think you're going to use my show to get a little pre-promo for your show? No, not my show. Yeah, exactly. I was like, what are you talking? He's at Mike Francesco Awards. I'm going to work on him. I'm going to work on him. If he came on your show,

that would be the greatest half hour of that in 2018. Let me tell you something. What would his rainbow be? Back after this. Back after this. One word. Give me another Diet Coke. Claybar forever. One word. Give me another Diet Coke. Claybar forever.

Love Mike. Thanks, fellas. This was fun, as always. Good luck with your thing this weekend. Thank you, man. We do this all night. Yeah. All right.

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