The Bill Simmons Podcast - Does GSW Need KD? Plus, No More 'Thrones,' Brooks Was Here, and Parent Corner With Cousin Sal | The Bill Simmons Podcast

Episode Date: May 20, 2019

HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to talk Bucks-Raptors Game 3, the Warriors-Trail Blazers series, NBA Finals odds (2:19), the PGA Championship, WWE's 'Money in the Bank,' Parent Corner (48:50), and Throne Game [SPOILERS] for the 'Game of Thrones' series finale (1:09:45). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Speaking of keeping it real, we taped our final Talk the Thrones episode tonight, our Twitter show that The Ringer has been doing, at Ringer. You can watch it on Twitter, or you might have already watched it. Madeline Rubin, Jason Concepcion, Chris Ryan. This is the last one.

We've been doing these since 2016. Thanks so much to Twitter for helping us promote it. And thanks to everybody at The Ringer who makes that show. So awesome. Don't forget about Binge Mode, the last one for Game of Thrones. It's coming this Thursday. And if you want some Game of Thrones talk faster than that from a podcast, you can either listen later

when Sal and I botch about 100 names or listen to The Watch with Chris Ryan tomorrow. Coming up, Cousin Sal stepping in for Ryan Rosillo. We're going to talk about a whole bunch of stuff. But first, our friends from Pearl Jam. Alright, The Cuz is on the line. You can hear him every day on FS1. Lock it in.

4.30pm. You can also see him on Jimmy Kimmel Live every once in a while. Jimmy Kimmel back for three more years. He won't leave. Oh, I almost did a spoiler coming out of the gate, and I did it, but I held myself. Hi, Sal. How are you? What's happening, man? It's good to be on. I know. It's been a while. Is football

around the corner? Are we talking hard knocks odds or something? Oh, we could. We could. It's been a while. Is football around the corner? Are we talking hard knocks odds or something? We could. We could. So nephew Kyle came over today to watch Thrones and get ready for this podcast. And we had the four TVs going in the back. We're watching basketball. Guess what was on the NFL network? Seattle Patriots Super Bowl. Don't think we didn't get excited. Don't think there wasn't some cheering and some grunting. It was great. I'm ready for football to come back. Of course.

I counted. I think there's 15 Sundays, which I would have thought there were more, so I'm glad we got there. 15 Sundays. All right. Yeah. Let's start with basketball. And the fact that yesterday, or I guess it was over 24 hours ago, I texted you that I wanted to bet the sweeps.

Warriors sweeping the Blazers, and then the Bucks sweeping the Raptors. So then the Warriors win game three, looking great. The FUKD is in full motion, whether that's true or not. I just like joking about it. Then we go to the Bucks today, and it really seems like they're going to pull it out. And then they gave it back, and that sweep bet went under,

and now that Raptors series is going. Did you think in your heart of hearts the NBA was ever going to allow two sweeps in the conference finals? Nah. I thought you had it after yesterday. Yeah. I really thought. But now looking at it, like, all right, Golden State won,

so now they'll be done they'll finish that off but i was thinking uh this milwaukee team is so much better and uh man now i'm thinking wait let's think back at this maybe they should be down two to one right yeah they shot 25 from three in the first game and then this game was abysmal middleton bledsoe six for 32 and greek freak had his numbers in there they're like 11 for 48 between the three of them maybe this is going to be a good one do you think this goes six now so bledsoe and middleton were really bad like really really blew the game bad and i think the middleton thing was more of an aberration because he's

you know he's he's, you know, he's, he's done it in some big games before. I think they have a real problem with Bledsoe. And I came away from the game today thinking, I don't think they can win a finals game on the road relying on Bledsoe because he, he, I just don't think he's reliable. I think I've been saying this, we argue about it in the ringer NBA slack. And I've been saying, I think Bledsoe has been fool's gold for a lot of this season. He's one of those looks great when you're up 18 at home. But in a game like that, did you notice how hard it was for them to find the creator who could actually decide what was going to happen when they really needed a basket in those

last couple of minutes. It kind of needed to be honest. And he just doesn't totally have the reps yet. I felt the most comfortable with Brogdon and George Hill, which I'm not sure that's a good sign for them for the next round. What did you think? No, it didn't look good. But I will say there was a weird sense of resiliency.

When you're watching with a woman like my wife or a person like my wife who doesn't watch basketball and i just hate this one the team goes up four points with 40 seconds left and she's like all right turn this off turn game of thrones back on it's over it's not over and twice twice they were up four with 40 seconds left uh toronto was yeah and they blew the lead uh Siakam missed the free throws. And Milwaukee was minus 145 going into both overtimes. Wow. I'm going to end up losing a lot of money here.

Oh, I should have bet that. That would have been a good way for me to hedge the bets. I was saying to Kyle that when Siakam went to the line, I actually predicted Kyle can vouch. I predicted the double free throw miss by Siakam. Really? That was impressive. I really did. Kyle, is that true? You can be honest here. I predicted the double free throw miss by Siakam. Really? I really did. Kyle, is that true?

You can be, you can be honest. I was sitting right there. Yeah. I was spelling out everything. I was going nuts because I just couldn't believe they wouldn't bench Bledsoe. And then they benched him and then they brought him back and he did more damage and they benched him again. But, you know, I think both teams have the same problem.

They really only have one guy that can create a good shot. And then you watch the Warriors, who are creating unbelievable offense with three different guys, and Durant's not even playing. And tonight was the first night. This might be an overreaction. I'll fully admit it. Tonight was the first night I really thought to myself that the Warriors could actually beat either of these teams without Durant. Cause I didn't think that till today. I really thought like, we can talk about

the Warriors in a second, but everybody's going, oh, they don't need them. They absolutely needed Durant against Milwaukee. I thought that I watched the thing today and it's like, if they still one game in Milwaukee, I just don't think Milwaukee can go into golden state and win there. What was your take? Yeah. I kind of feel that. I've flip-flopped. Now, Milwaukee has home court, right, if these two survive. So I don't know. I still don't think that anybody has.

I just think Giannis just fouls everybody out. No one can cover him for 94 feet and all this stuff we talk about. And Milwaukee, when they win, they win hard. I think there's only four teams have won by double digits 50-plus times this year, and Milwaukee's one of them. And every team won the title except for Golden State, who was up 3-1 and blew it to Cleveland. I think you're familiar with that one.

But now I'm starting to think it sounds stupid, but Golden State's a team of destiny. Is that even possible at this point? It'll be their fifth trip to the finals in a row. You want to do Golden State now? I was saving it for once we get... Let's save Golden State because I have a lot of thoughts on that. Let me just tell you real quick.

I'm glad I didn't... Not that you would have done this, but I bet that no games this series would go to double overtime in either series. No, you didn't. No, yes, I did. No, you didn't. How is that even a bet? How are there even odds on that? this series would go to double overtime in either series like marley together no yes i did no you didn't how is that even a bet in the gold so i couldn't even odds on that i i know it's disgusting and they weren't very good i'm gonna be honest with you they weren't really in my favor those odds jesus i ruined an otherwise great weekend i had kepka i had the knicks i had all these bets

that house and i try to convince you to jump on with the knicks in the top four yeah we had a whole bunch of these and i lost it all to the stupid double overtime bet. I'm the worst. So, but so first game of the Boston series goes one for five for six points. Plays better in the second game. Third game in Boston series tied one, one. They need them in this one. He goes four for 15. Four turnovers.

Game four, he's okay, 13. Game five, when Boston's rolling over, that's when Bledsoe really shines. So he's 18 in that one. In this series, he's made nine shots, but he's taken 40. He scored 28 points total. Five turnovers today. I don't know what they do because i'm not sure

their best line i pass him out there he he's still really destructive defensively and i think that's why they're playing him and they're hoping that his offense can go but i thought their best line i passed out of hill and brogdon out there at the same time with Middleton, with Giannis, and then either Lopez, Miritic, whoever. But the problem is when you play the Warriors next round, assuming they get there, and the Warriors have so much speed and can do so

many different things, I'm not sure how much they're going to be able to play the Miritic, Iliasova, those kind of guys. But he's not getting a ton more minutes than you would think, right? Didn't he have like 33 today? They have two bench players getting more than that. He did. During the season, this is why he got the $70 million extension

because he was playing so well. It really seemed like he was unleashed in this Budenholzer offense, playing with more pace. Even when they signed him that extension, I thought it was a good deal. I thought he had kind of come into his own. And I just think, you know, this is something we're still, and I talked about last year and it's something, a good thing for us to remember when we're betting on stuff next year. Um, there's such a dramatic difference now between the regular season and the playoffs. It just is, seems to be a chasm that's growing each year. And you almost have to go into these playoffs trying to unlearn just about everything you

learn from the regular season. I think one of the things that has held up is this Bucs team is just really good. And even when they don't play well, they can still hang around in these games. I didn't think they played well in game one. They put together one quarter they won. Then today, nobody played well in the Bucs. Who played well? And they get double overtime in Toronto?

So, you know, I think you can look at stuff like if a team is up 15-20 a lot during a season, I think that means something. But man, when it slows down like it did today, how about Toronto running pick and rolls with Van Vliet?

Yeah, right. I know. I think Kawhi just got a little too cool for school, right? He didn't have those carnival rims that he dealt with last Sunday, like Mother's Day. So don't do us any favors. You're taking the game clock down to four before you're making a move. You know it's going to be a terrible shot, and maybe a terrible shot that doesn't go in, unlike last Sunday. So what do you think happens?

So we got game four in Toronto. We just put double OT miles on Milwaukee. We should mention, I thought there were some really shaky calls in this game. Most of them went against Milwaukee. The weirdest one, they didn't even replay it. I think it was either in the last minute regulation or the last minute OT. Giannis got his fifth foul. Kawhi had just made a shot.

And then he came down and he missed another shot. And they called Giannis for a foul off the ball in the fight for the rebound. And I was rewinding it, trying to find what the foul was. It was Scott Foster just immediately was like, I'm calling this. It was super fishy. And so that happened. That was the fifth foul.

And then the sixth foul was Siakam just put his head down and just rammed into him. And they fouled him out on that. Which brings me to my point. It reminds me of Shaq way back when, where you could kind of call a lot of fouls or call no fouls when Giannis is in the game on both ends. When he goes to the basket, it seems like he's fouled almost every time and they call it whenever they want. And then defensively, he's challenging everything. He's all over the place. He's usually doing the

right things and they can decide on that. All right all right well he went over the back on that one next time no he didn't go over the back that time and it it i can't there are very few guys in the league that uh that can be kind of interpreted and that's what i noticed today especially with those last two fouls i i just felt like they were bad calls but that's what I noticed today especially with those last two fouls I just felt like they were bad calls but that's what happens with the yeah probably I watched a little money in the bank and there was uh you know what the referee was more consistent in that I think even in the ladies matches but uh what do you think for a line I mean I would throw a couple trends at you so Toronto was favored by two and a half heading into this. And by the way, it seems like game three, the home team,

no matter how bad it is for them, they cover the first quarter. So that happened the last two nights. Toronto's two and a half heading into tonight. What do you think? I know the answer if you want to guess the lines. So Toronto is two and a half for game three. They were game for tonight. They were minus two and a half.

Yeah. I think Milwaukee minus one for game four. Higher. Min minus two and a half. Yeah. I think Milwaukee minus one for game four. Higher. Minus two and a half. Wow. Okay. Pretty high. Yeah.

It should be a close game. So then it looks like series lines. The Bucks are still minus 625 for the series. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That seems high. Me, you, and House have... House and I jumped in early.

We have minus 185 for Milwaukee Golden State. Yeah. And you got it at like 160-something. I had it at 154. For some reason, people really started talking themselves into Portland,

which was super confusing to me. Yeah. I think there was also more buzz that Durant definitely wasn't playing the first three games. I was fine with that. All that did was help the line. I,

you know, this, this is a good time to talk about the words, the, uh, you know, they're talking about, especially now they won four in a row without them.

People are like, they don't need them. It's better. They're better off without them. All that stuff, which is just idiotic. Like, just stop. They can do this in short spurts,

but Curry and Klay and Draymond can't handle the kind of load they're doing in these games over the course of a seven-month season. Come on. It's not realistic. It would be the same thing like how Harden wore down in the playoffs and couldn't do what he did in the race. I don't think so either.

The only thing that could benefit them is if they finish off Portland in four. And this series, this Milwaukee-Toronto series goes seven or something. Because if there was going to be two sweeps, I think there was going to be nine days without basketball or something crazy before the finals. Yeah, I was asking a friend of mine at ESPN about that. If they move the finals up and they said, no, we could have had like, you know, eight, nine days between the conference finals and the finals, which was yet another case for bet Toronto. They're going to figure out a way to get them to win.

But yeah, with the Golden State thing, this is what makes basketball great. This isn't unique to just KD's not there and the Warriors, look how great they are. This is one of the things I love about basketball. When somebody disappears and everybody else bands together and tries to carry the team for a few games, which is what they've done. I do think there's a little fuck you edge with the KD thing, but I think it's more of a people counted them out because he got hurt.

And those guys are all like, this is what you, me, and House were texting before game six of the Rocket Series. Those guys are like, really? We're all the guys who won the 2015 title, basically. Like, what are you doing? You're counting us out? Because Durant's out?

Give me a break. And it definitely seems like it's motivated Draymond specifically. I like it. I know what you're saying. It's fun to watch. They're more fun to watch, I think, without Durant, which doesn't make sense. I'm going to have you explain it to me in a second if you can. The ratings are up, way up for the Golden State games this year, however many playoff games, but down like 15% for every other day.

I saw that, yeah. Everything else put together. So this is what the viewer wants to see. But how is this happening? I don't understand. This guy couldn't. There is an FU to this because he wasn't making the same open shots when one of the greatest players in the world was 15 feet from him doing nothing.

Right. And now he's draining everything. It's not a 26% from three, that's for sure. Why is it other than an FU to Durant? Well, there's definitely a little motivation. There's no question. But I think this was a team that you had guys overqualified for the roles they were in. Klay Thompson was basically turned into somebody who just stood in the corner or ran around screens and shot.

He never really handled the ball at all. You watch him these last few games and he's a pretty creative offensive player. He's showing things that he just wasn't really allowed to do because they had three other guys who could handle the ball. Curry definitely has more of a swagger, and he's not worried about, oh, I took the last five shots. KD should get this play. So that's been removed.

But the big thing for me is Draymond because for two reasons. One, I think he's really motivated because look, if you want to go behind the curtain, like they've been hearing about this Nick stuff all year and it's only heated up since the All-Star break and it's only heated up the last couple of weeks. And I think they think he's leaving and that has to be a small part of this.

I'm like, all right, fuck you. Like, go ahead. We're fine. We, we won the title without you. I really do believe there's a little piece of that, but more importantly, I think without Durant, Draymond just is involved more and knows that he has to be more of the playmaker facilitator. He's pushing the ball. And he said something really important after the game yesterday, where he said how yesterday where he said how in the NBA TV interview, he talked about he was too focused on the refs and the calls and bitching about everything. And he's like, I just had to stop doing that. I had to just concentrate on what I was doing, and it really helped me. Which you watched him all year.

He bitched at the refs too much. I think it was a problem. I felt like he turned it on, even when Durant was, like even, what was it, like game four in Houston? They lost the game. It was close, but he was taking it to the rim hard.

Yeah. And the stats might not even, although he had the triple-double easily yesterday, but yeah, he's definitely playing with a different intensity. So yeah, everyone thinks the FU is coming from Curry, but it's just as much from Draymond here.

Yeah, and Curry was this good all year. He just has the ball a little bit more. But there was a point there in the regular season when his stats were pretty much where they were during his great MVP season. The big difference is Draymond, who I got to be honest, I never thought he would get to this level again he just seemed like somebody that um you know when you compare him to the the 25 game winning streak three years ago and just how dominant he was some nights and we just didn't see it anymore and it seemed like

he was at a different point of his career maybe the conditioning wasn't there the same way maybe his legs weren't totally the same or whatever. It looked, he looks like this is the best he's looked really since that 25 game winning streak. And you know, he's a, he can be a dominant player.

That's the craziest thing about Draymond. Like he'll have the Westbrook, we'll have the 2010, 12, and you won't feel like he controlled the game when Draymond has it. It really feels like he's controlling the game. But on both ends, too, because he was incredible defensively. The other thing that happened in that game three,

you know, Lillard was hurt, no question. But the bench guys, you know, like Quinn Cook was making plays. I was just going to say, they never have the bench step up like this. They have to, obviously, to replace Durant's points. McKinney? Kevon Looney has probably made himself an eight-figure-a-year contract. No lie. You think so?

Yeah, I think he's going to get like $10 million a year in the offseason. You said that about Romo, too. And I was right. Was I right or was I wrong? You're right. Romo, Looney, all the greats. Romo and Looney together are going to make $25 billion combined. I've been really impressed by, you know, Looney's really smart.

He does smart stuff. He knows what he is. He's always in the right spots. He doesn't try to do too much. I think he's been an unsung MVP. Sometimes this will happen in the playoffs where, you know, remember most famously Jerome James in 2005 got hot for Seattle for like a week and a half. Isaiah gave him a $30 million contract. That'll usually happen. We looked at this though.

We looked at it and said, you know, all the numbers said the trend showed, all right, hey, they still win 75% of their games without durant um you know and they allow 10 points fewer per game all right maybe that's because they slow down possessions but and i was looking at it i was like oh man i've done a little research on this this is when their bench was a lot deeper maybe not even deeper but they didn't have a 35 year old uh yeah with dollar and a 33 year old livingston you know this really this really could be it for it. But I think it's everything. I really do. I think that a lot, Curry gets a lot of the credit.

Draymond should get more of the credit. His numbers are phenomenal. And this bench stepping up like that, they had no bench. They had none of the Western conference teams really had anything going bench wise. You know, you know what? I really love the show that you're on locking in, which, um, no, no, no. I'm not, I'm not saying I love the show, although I was going to text you. I've listened to it a few times now when I'm driving around,

when it's on Fox, when I'm waiting for Christine Leahy's shows to come on. And the chemistry with you guys is really good though. There's a lot of ball busting on that show. Everybody's kind of caught up to your ball busting on that show everybody's kind of caught up to your ball busting it's impressive it's they have to stick with me it's really like uh there's just darts being thrown left and right constantly it's really funny i i enjoy it you guys do a good job thank you i appreciate i think it helps that we're playing against each other we're playing a game and this is like week 34 and we all still want to win as much as we did in the first week and we make fun of

each other like if we're getting bad good but you know it's like you and i playing in fantasy right you know if i won by three points on a pick six uh you know in a meaningless pass at the end you would be screaming at me we'd be screaming on the monday podcast for 20 minutes about it but it's kind of this that that's what it is i think that's what keeps us going well the show's good but the reason i bring this up is you used to make fun of me for being the NBA hole and you cared, but you weren't like, there was a level that you weren't going to because you were following 17 other sports. I feel like you're watching a lot of basketball.

I almost feel like I want to welcome you into the NBA hole club. I feel like you've watched a lot of this. I think you have to welcome me. I boycotted the last three weeks because I was convinced these guys aren't playing. They don't care what's going on. You still will not convince me otherwise. And then I dove in headfirst once the playoff started. And I think they try most of the time, these teams, but what the hell else are we going to talk about? I don't know. We're going to talk about how this't know talk about this is over with this is great i just got women's world cup we're in trouble i can't wait lock it in after hoops ends when you guys are are breaking down the round of

16 in the women's world cup and you're making the case for nigeria over can Canada is going to be the hilarious. I have Cameroon parlayed with Joey Chestnut over 72 and a half hot dogs. Holy crap. Hold on. We're going to take a quick break. I want to talk about Durant. Quick break to talk about hair clubs. Sometimes one change can make all the difference in your confidence. Hair club knows this. That's why they're inviting you to see how you getting the most out of your hair can change your life. Hair club is the leader in total hair solutions with a legacy of success for over 40 years. Whether you're looking to revitalize the growth of your hair or learn more about the latest proven methods for hair replacement and restoration, Hair Club's professionally trained stylist, hair health experts, and consultants will craft a personalized solution.

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after your initial consultation. Check it out. Hairclub.com slash Simmons. Back to Sal. So the Durant thing, here's my take. Now what's he doing? Was that real? Was that a real post about Phoenix? That was him? Oh, I didn't see that. What are you talking about? Oh, I thought he said, it must not be real. I thought it was on Instagram. What's his Instagram

handle? Easy Money Sniper. Yeah, that's it. He's like, you guys are going to be laughing when I take the Suns to the title. I'm going to have to look that up. Maybe I was duped. You might have been duped. There's been a lot of social media duping. I will say though, I'm taping this now.

It's 9 o'clock PT Sunday night. Durant does read all this stuff. He's online. It's one of those things where all these guys I think are online. All these guys are reading stuff because I think they have a lot of spare time and it's is on the talk shows and is online about this is more fun without him. The Warriors don't need Kevin Durant. It's nice to have the Warriors back. Durant ruined the Warriors and now the Warriors can be fun again. He's seeing all of this stuff. And I don't know how it affects this summer because I think that decision was already made. But what I do think, I just think there's no chance he comes back now.

I think there was a puncher's puncher's slim fingernail of a chance that if they won three in a row and it went perfectly and he was the best player in the league like he looked in the first two rounds before he got hurt, that they all would have looked at each other

and gone, this is stupid. Let's go for history. Only Russell Celtics have ever won four in a row. Let's go for it. We'll figure it out a year from now. I didn't think that was inconceivable. I don't see him coming back now because first of all, he saw that stuff. He's seen how the teams reacted with Adam. Whether you'd be like, well, no, we're all together in this. There's got to be that small part of you like, hmm, man, they seem pretty happy and I'm

not out there. So that's one part. And then the second part, if I'm the warriors, the actual, the owners and the front office and all this stuff, kind of looking forward to next year, reinventing this team after three straight titles, using the KD money, building around Curry and Klay Thompson and Draymond and just being like, let's try to win the title without him. That's the best motivation a team could have after a title is, well, they don't think you can win without Durant. Here we go. You're just basically putting the giant chip on everybody's shoulder.

How rare is that as a title team to have that? So I think that my guess would be everybody's going to look at each other and go, you know what? This would be great. You should go to New York. And Katie's going to be like, yeah, you're right. I'm going to go to New York. This was awesome. Thank you for my three titles. Don't you feel like that's how it plays out? Not only that, I feel like, you know, when they say like, well, you'll never understand the competition, a high level competition like this. You don't play basketball. You didn't play play college you didn't play pro i was like all right that's fine i know myself right now if i were kevin durant i wouldn't be rooting for this team so take this whole thing to another

level where you say well they're more competitive than you can ever imagine well then he's not rooting for this team i thought i thought like a week ago i was like he needs both of these series to end in seven um you know if he's not playing the rest of the year yeah and that's perfect for kd now i don't think he wants them to win at all a and b i think i think you're right he's going to the knicks we we'd like them to go to the knicks before i mean you know him better than i do you sit with him in his house in his pantry and interview him but i think he's going to Knicks. I think there's a little bit of a... I have a little more inside information about this.

I don't even know if I could say, but he's very close with Steve Nash, who happens to be R.J. Barrett's godfather. Yeah. All right? So that's where the Knicks are landing. That's their pick because they couldn't fix it, so they get Zion.

I think this is... Nash is close with him. Anyway, I don't want to give away too much. You're right. He's going to Knicks. And let's bet that if we can't even more. I've already wagered on it. Oh, yeah.

Let's do more. I was thinking about tweeting every Monday. Should I do this? Tell me if I should do this. Every Monday, tweet my predictions of where everyone is going. But just make it a thread and see if it changes each week yeah because right now my bet as crazy as this sounds did you do this already no I haven't I'm texting okay yeah yeah I sent you a text but I haven't gone on record I actually think what's gonna happen I if you gave me odds on this, it would be interesting.

We should, who, who, who does odds off our podcast? Who does a sports book? We'll do that sometimes, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Well, yeah, we can get someone to get it. Yeah. I would like the, to know what the odds are on KD, Anthony Davis, and either Kyrie or Kemba all ending up on the same team next year.

On the same team. Yeah. Doesn't have to be the Knicks next year. On the same team? Yeah. Doesn't have to be the Knicks. No, on the Knicks. Oh, interesting. Because I think KD, so there's a Kemba wrinkle. Everybody has Kyrie going there. But Kemba's actually from New York.

I think he's from the Bronx, but he's like from deep New York. And he needs a guard either way, whether it's Kyrie or Kemba. Maybe it's Kyrie, but one of those. And then you basically trade everything else for Davis, right? You trade three, you trade Knox, you trade the Dallas picks, whatever it takes. You bowl them over to make sure the Lakers or Boston don't get them. And then you just put those three guys together and figure it out later. You know, I'm not the first person who said this.

Obviously a lot of people have talked about this scenario. I just really think it's going to happen. And I think that's where Davis is going to go. Unless new Orleans says we're going to wait till February to trade them. But we've seen over and over again, we've seen teams get the three guys first and worry about the rest after. And then this would be a perfect way to do that this time around. Two things.

I don't know those odds. We could probably get them up. But Anthony Davis, everyone's very excited for a day or two about Anthony Davis and Zion playing together. He is still minus 300 is according to Vegas to or Antigua, depending on where you place your bets uh planning on fleeing new orleans so that yeah part one um part two i i think in a real world in a

real nba world where all these max contract guys get angry and they want to leave or they want to quit or whatever yeah you could have three superstars ending up on the knicks except you have to have three big personalities agree to play for james dolan yeah i just don't see him i don't think he's the guy i think that's why they needed diane more than anything because now you have this chip that kind of supersedes everything bad that the dolans do and here comes durant and maybe even davis or kairi or whatever but i still don't think i still think he's a big enough force to keep the big names away. I'm going to do the impossible right now.

I'm going to defend James Dolan. Really? Let's hear it. Kyle, we're recording this, right? This is what you should do every Monday. As you know, I think he's one of the worst owners in recent sports history. Okay.

Not a good start. And also tried to make it seem like I was lying about the fact that he was letting all the rich people know that make them an offer. Basically. And he's like, no, I never did that. It's like, okay, that's why 20 rich people right now are formulating Nick's offers. Cause you sent the word out. They even said on a, on a freaking margin call with every three months when cable vision, they have the stockholders thing. They even brought up about that Simmons thing is the one, they mentioned my name. It's 100% a lie.

It's like, I'm not lying. People know what was actually going on. Anyway, I don't think he's a meddler. I think would be the defense for James Dolan as an owner. I think he's terrible at hiring people, like really, really historically atrocious. But once he hires them, really historically atrocious. But once he hires them, he doesn't meddle. So if they were able to get KD, Anthony Davis, Kemba, Fizdale's already in there as a coach. They have all the people running the front office who at least don't seem incompetent at this point. They're okay. Like the poor Zingas trade,

they did okay, considering that Dolan was just bound and determined to get rid of him. It's kind of hard for him to mess it up at that point. Once you get those three guys in, I don't really know what he could do other than to somehow insult them in the hallway or something, right?

Right. What would he do? Like, how could he screw that up? They're already there. They've signed contracts. All right, I guess. I'm just thinking of, you know what, I'm going way when when they were courting lebron and he came in the room and those guys in wheelchairs yeah yeah that's all true it was like i'll go to brooklyn before i come to you know the the knicks but yeah

maybe that could turn around just well maybe this time he brings that he brings duran in and maybe play some music for him. Oh, from his band, you mean? Yeah, that's what really speaks to James Dolan's heart is his live music. So maybe he figures out a way to connect the live music with the recording process. That'll be a true test. I could deal with the media. I can deal with the New York Post making fun of me, word playing with my name and everything,

just this music. I just can't take it. I can't take it. I got to go back. So I think those three guys go there. I think Kyrie goes to Brooklyn. I think D'Angelo Russell goes to Orlando. I think Jimmy Butler stays in Philly. I think Tobias Harris leaves Philly and goes to Denver or somewhere.

Kawhi goes to the Clippers. Who goes to the Nets, did you say? Kyrie, if Kemba goes to the Knicks. Wow. If Kyrie goes to the Knicks, I think Kemba ends up either staying for 250 or I think there's an outside Laker chance with him. The Nets would let Russell go to get Kyrie.

That's the only one I'm not positive. Well, because if Kyrie says, I want to sign with the Nets, would you rather have Kyrie or Russell? I don't know anymore. I'll tell you, I'd rather have Russell, but I'm in the minority because Kyrie ruined my season. Really? All right. All right.

I defended Kyrie to the end. All the stats that said the Celtics were better with that. I was hoping, I was like, you know what? Maybe the Celtics, maybe the Bucks are just way, way better than everybody. And the Celtics were the second best team in the East, but it's not looking like that. Well, I mean, Sal, you've worked in an office for many years, actually. Jimmy Kimmel Live. That's right. If you put somebody in the office who's really moody and up and down, eventually it affects somebody else in the office, right? You've never had that experience because nobody was ever moody at Jimmy Kimmel Live. I can't even imagine what you're talking about.

If there was somebody at Jimmy Kimmel Live who was super moody and up and down, it would affect people, right? Let me think about it. Let me ask some people who might be clued in on this better. By the way, our cousin re-signed for three more years. Isn't that something? Unbelievable.

Remember he got annoyed when we put him up against Brady of who's going to last longer. He's like, oh great, I'm glad you talked about that. You probably freaked out the whole staff. We're like, no. You're going to stay. We have a feeling you're going to stay. Yeah, he did get annoyed and now he's going to get annoyed about, great. I'm glad you talked about that. You probably freaked out the whole staff. Like, no, you're going to stay. We have a feeling you're going to stay. Yeah, he did get annoyed.

And now he's going to get annoyed about this somehow. And I can't figure out how yet. That's true. No, he's staying. That's great. It's good news. He's staying because a lot of people said when you left the show, that was going to be it. It was going to fall apart.

But now there's some Ewing theory with you going. Now it's a Ewing theory eligible show because the show has technically never won Best Late Night Show Emmy. So there's some Ewing theory possibilities. Oh, I'm honored. I'm honored. Yeah, let them, unlike KD,

I will actually be rooting for it to happen. Yeah. What happens if KD goes to the Knicks? Because you're like, as Jacoby would say, you're a die easy Knicks fan. You're more of a fan of basketball gambling. Yeah, right. For sure.

But if all those guys were on the Knicks, would that unleash some sort of Knicks fandom that is buried deep inside you? What happens? I guess so. I don't love this owner too much. Don't you find that a lot, right? With people, don't you see that? Like people will not go to church anymore because they don't like the archdiocese,

everyone who's running it. I kind of feel like the same way now with the Knicks. So I would like this owner to get out before I started rooting for them. But I don't know, like does Concepcion have a problem with the owner? Like it really taints it a lot, doesn't it? No, Concepcion is,

I mean, I have some Knicks fans in my life and he's probably one of the highest ones up there. They're just with the team for life. you know it's like uh I was gonna do another spoiler and I'm I fought it off again I'm so proud of myself we we did the lottery show that night with me and Rosillo and and Concepcion was there and they got the third pick and then we brought Jason in and anyway and I didn't realize it was kind of a then we brought jason and in and i didn't realize it was kind of a mistake we brought him in and his like his eyes were like full of tears it was like me with after the celtics didn't get duran or odin in 07 and the j bug and i just went to this

dive bar in boston and fucking got drunk and smoked cigarettes uh he was just really devastated. I have some Knicks fans in my life who are so rock bottom with the team that they had a 14% chance of winning the lottery and they were devastated when it didn't come through. I mean, you have better odds of playing Russian roulette and getting hit by a bullet than winning the lottery at 14%. Do you know there were so many, I don't know if it was Knicks or just conspiracy theory people backing the conspiracy theory that the knicks are going to get the number one pick that that went down to two to one odds on some sports books what one odds at a 14 chance team is going to get uh zion and you can cash you can only double your money well house that's astounding house was all proud he he he's on a nice little streak right now gambling wise and it started with

you talking him into nick's top four easy couldn't be easy and i was like and he's like bragging about after i'm like house you might as well bet on like a fucking coin flip like you've just bet on 50 odds congratulations i don't know what kind of wisdom you had with that how weird was that that those four spots were going away like up the lakers are moving up now and memphis like whoa what the hell's going on here like did you i mean i watched you you and ryan go over this but did you catch right away with the impact of this that all these teams are gonna drop out phoenix and cleveland like it wasn't gonna be fair no i you can actually see in that video we did after the Lakers move up and we react and

my brain almost breaks on, on live, whatever, live streaming television. But then somebody else moved up and two, two teams were two spots ahead of where they should have been. And it was happening too fast and it was really confusing. And we, we, I don't, I don't think I talked at one point for like 20 seconds in that thing because I couldn't figure out what was going on. It was like Mark Tatum almost needed to stop and go, Whoa, hold on, hold on. Some weird shit just happened. Let's go over what just happened to team, but he didn't. And it was just complete chaos. I, you know, it's funny. I couldn't between that and Ewing not sweating. I was like, I may have to turn this off. I can't,

none of this looks right to me. I'll read about it tomorrow. Hey, Ewing. He didn't sweat at all. Ewing kind of had a look and he had a kind of a vibe of I wasn't going to do this, but then they offered me $100,000

and I don't know. I made some bad investments. I'm at an autographed show. How long do I have to be here? 15 minutes or 20? He was at the collector's convention in Cleveland. He was like, now for one or two, it's Patrick Ewing. He's going to be shepherding the Knicks in the lottery.

He just did not seem happy at all. For me, it's like, I just feel like Spike Lee should have been the guy in the seat. Or like Desus and Mero, or people that really would have lived and died with how the ping pong balls went versus somebody like Ewing, you know? I love the celebrity superfan angle because you got even a Kyle Kuzma there.

He could be off the team easily, you know? They try to get him off anyway in the beginning. Yeah, I think we've talked about this before, but if it was all celebrity fans, I think that would be fantastic. Cause like the Lakers, Kyle Kuzma might get traded in a month. Like he,

like the, the picks going up to number four and he's calculating his head like, Oh shit, I'm going to be in new Orleans next year. Right. This is, this is it for me. I'm done.

They're going to flip this pick. Yeah. It's like having Josh Rosen come out and announce the, you know arizona cardinals are taking in the first with their first how'd you do with the nfl draft you win or lose uh we won money we won money you won money had uh yeah because you went um let's see the running backs went late we went under three and a half quarterbacks i can't now i can't remember but it was so far away.

But yeah, we won money. Did you bet on the Giants becoming the biggest laughingstock out of the four-team sports? It's unbelievable. It really is something else. Who's happier about this, you or me? I think you hate the Giants slightly more than I do, but it's close. I can't stand them.

Yeah, and this is the first year the Cowboys aren't playing them on Sunday night and forever, so of course it makes sense. But yeah, I mean, they became the Jets and the Lakers became the Clippers. It really happened to the two biggest fan bases, right? Well, it was funny. People were like the Jets and now the Jets are in control. And then the Jets just had a complete shit show of a week

and fired their GM. And then these stories come out about... Did you read the Adam Gase stories? I'm not sure. Which ones? Just about after the GM got fired about Gase and the GM didn't get along. And there was this weird passive aggressive thing going on. But I think the Daily News had this story about how Gase-

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I heard Francesca, your boy Francesca was talking about it. Gase was in the war room sitting next to somebody, but he was on camera and he moved his chair so he wasn't on camera for the picks because he wasn't involved in the draft and they were like, it's really weird. He's not weighing in on anything.

Sounded phenomenal. Congrats to the Jets fans. You did it again. The Warriors are minus 225 to win the title. Bucks are 2-1. Raps are 13 to one. And the Blazers are tasty. One 50 to one.

Wow. All right. Forget the blaze. Cross them out. Right. Yeah. Yeah. First of all, I think Dame Lillard now he's hurt.

Are they going to say he's been hurt for three weeks? Because since he did made that shot and was staring, I think he's still staring at the camera because his numbers have been bad but i don't feel like he's getting enough heat for it yeah he wasn't he was pretty up and down and more down than up in the denver series and then was not good in this word series either he did get hurt i mean that was legitimately somebody fell on him and you could see him get hurt in the moment right but at the same time the Warriors went into the series determined to just rough him up bang him up make him work chip him on every screen and wearing him down it's funny um way back playing like east coast basketball a little bit yeah way back when I think when he was Steve Curry used to come on the BS report when I was at ESPN

and he always used to talk about how teams built around smaller players made him nervous because the playoffs were so physical. And as the, as, as it went on and on and you're playing an eight month season that those guys tended to wear down. And the reason I remember that is because when the Celtics traded for Kyrie, I remember that being in the back of my head like,

oh man, the freaking Steve Kerr theory that he said a million years ago is playing it in my head. And we saw it with Lillard. We see it with Chris Paul. Interesting. We see it. I guess Iverson doesn't 100% count because he was superhuman. But for the most part, 6'1 and under,

it's pretty tough. Four straight rounds is brutal. I like it. We'll have to look into it. We'll have to look into it. House and I really try to convince you of a few things. We like Koepka. Are we going to talk golf for a minute?

Koepka almost ruined golf this weekend. Let's take a break and, are we going to talk golf for a minute? Yeah, let's do that. Kepka almost ruined golf this weekend. Let's take a break and then we're going to talk about that. Let's take a break to talk about Luminary, specifically the Rewatchables 1999, which is available only on Luminary. It's our little spinoff series dissecting some of our favorite movies from 1999, an all-time great year. Much like with the Rewatchables, each episode breaks down a different movie with highly specific categories, analyzing

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Wow. Good for all of us. The hangover. Oh, yeah. Not at the table, Carlos. Yeah, we're going to be breaking that down. Anyway, back to Sal. All right, we got to do PGA title.

We got to do Money in the Bank. I went on House's podcast today, Fairway Rolling, right afterwards. He did a quickie pod right after. And I was saying, we were talking about Kepco, whether this is, how significant is this, right? These majors, this many in a row in this short of a time span does feel really, really unique and potentially special. And at the same time, I feel like we've been here with a bunch of different golfers over the last 12 years. These guys who have this 18 to 20 month run where

they're kicking ass and everybody's like, this guy's the next guy. Here it is. I can't decide whether this feels different or not. What does feel different is the majors. But we have seen these guys rip off these 20 monthmonth runs, and then something happens. They hurt their back. They blow a tournament. They lose their confidence. McElroy, Spieth, all the younger guys. Justin Rose, Jason Day.

This one- I think it's different. Here's why I think it's different. Yeah, let's hear it. I don't have a ton of golf knowledge like House, but just his presence, this Brooks Koepka's presence, he's like Brock Lesnar. He's like Ivan Drago.

I really felt like he was going to play the weekend without a shirt in Bethpage. He just doesn't care about anything. He just goes up there and does his thing. Obviously, he came back down to earth a little bit today and yesterday, but in general like you you can't you can't phase the guy there's a there's a video now a viral video of his girlfriend um i think he was approaching the first hole uh just like a long walkway and she goes to

kiss him and he's just like kind of like fends her away you know yeah the cameras are in his face he's kind of like no nonsense. I like it. I like it a lot. I mean, he's already like, I think they said he's like four to one for the U.S. Open, which is insane. That's Tiger Woods numbers, you know, 2002. I texted House yesterday in the early part of the third day and asked if I could tweet something because I didn't know how golf Twitter would react. You know, golf Twitter is like hockey Twitter and soccer Twitter. Like they get all bent out of shape when they feel like a casual. If I could tweet something, because I didn't know how golf Twitter would react. You know, golf Twitter is like hockey Twitter and soccer Twitter.

They get all bent out of shape when they feel like a casual. Now, I don't even feel like we're casual golf fans because you and I, but there's this whole other level. So I don't want to fuck with that. I decided not to. I was thinking about Koepka, how not since mid-2000s Tiger do I remember somebody who, when they had a lead like that in a tournament carried themselves the way he carried himself which just goes to what you were saying like the the swagger kind of fuck you edge that he has is really stands out you know and and it makes me think i said this on houses pod today how we always get our ass kicked in the rider cup and one of the reasons we always get our ass kicked in the Ryder Cup. And one of the reasons we always get our ass kicked

is that none of the Americans kind of carry themselves this way. And maybe he's the guy. Like, forget about all the majors. Maybe he's the guy that can flip the Ryder Cup for us. Right. Well, you know what? You made a joke, or maybe it wasn't a joke.

You're like, oh, we should have bet against Varner today. That was the final pairing, right? Yeah. Because he kept getting behind him? Yeah, that's tough. And what was he, plus 11 tonight or something? Like, I think he's intimidating even his,

his pairings, you know? Yeah. That's what I was mad that they put him with tiger on Friday. Cause we want tiger to, to make the cut. Right. And he's kind of tiger.

Wasn't playing that great anyway. And then they put him with Koepka who's, you know, an assassin. I, I, I thought Koepka really relish kind of going head to they put him with Koepka, who's an assassin. And I thought Koepka really relished kind of going head to head with him. But maybe this is the hero we need, Sal,

for the American golf hero to replace Tiger. But the difference is Tiger was never that great in the Ryder Cup. So maybe this guy could be our dude that takes us to Europe. I like it. There's a couple of things I don't like about it. House and I discussed it. He says he's done eating steak in America. Kepka said that. Yeah. He's weird, right?

He's definitely quirky. Kepka said that. Yeah. Yeah. But he played rugby. He like, what happened? He got in a bad car accident. So took up golf because he was doing more violent sports.

But his parents like, nah, just take up golf now. So, yeah, he's different. He's a different beast altogether. Has Jimmy had him on the show yet? No. Yeah, I won't really know what to think until Jimmy weighs in. Because there will be some sort of alpha dog battle going on with the handshake and the whole thing. It'll be good.

That would make it all worth it. What would our agent, now manager, James Babydoll Dixon do if Koepka was on the show? Yeah, our manager. We've been calling him our agent our whole lives, but now he's our manager. Yes, he's our manager. Let's get this right. Yeah, it's weird. Our manager, James Babydoll Dixon, I'm not sure.

Koepka, he just hasn't really bought in. He's so in love with Tiger. Oh, I know it. Yeah. These guys that love Tiger. Guys in the lead. Then they get a seven on a par four because their ball got caught in the deep rough. And just one of those crazy weekends. And then like two guys emerging. And instead, Koepka goes 63-65 to start. Yeah. And well, I mean, that's the last thing we want. Like golf's kind of taking a turn a little bit now. Yeah.

Tiger, obviously, that's great. Then Tiger takes a month off. And by the way, I love Tiger to not make the cut at plus 375 but betting against that that's betting the no pass line and crap I know friends get mad I got mad at you I was so mad when you brought that up you're like let's go against Tiger let's bet what did you say let's bet Tiger not to win another major in 2018 I'm like no I don't want him I don't want him I want him to I know, but the numbers are so slanted. It's crazy. It's Conor McGregor, Floyd Mayweather. These numbers shouldn't be, it should be a gigantic difference in the odds there.

No, you were right. It's just, it's like- You just looked at him after Thursday. He was plus two or something. What was he? Plus one or plus two. The other plus ones like Matsuyama, all these bigger names, they're like 45, 50 to one. Tiger was still like 16, 18 to one to win. It's crazy to do it like this. It's like when the Red Sox, before we won the World Series in 04, every year the World Series odds were way lower than they should have been because all these idiots were betting on the Red Sox. They wanted the ticket. You're right. Tiger, this is why you're a whole level above me as a gambler because you ultimately will go for whatever the best bet is. And you will bet the buzzer beater bet in March Madness. You'll bet against Tiger, the biggest golf hero we have. You don't care.

The odds are in your favor. You'll go. You're ready. No double overtime. Oh, wait. You just bet it gets fun. No, but my point was, all right, it's great. Everyone loves Tiger. He's bringing golf back on the map in the biggest way possible. And then Koepka comes along and he could make the sport boring again. It's like, oh man, don't do this where you beat everyone by nine strokes. Yeah.

That's how it was looking after Friday. People stop watching. I still have faith that I think it's really hard to do this for more than two years to have the bullseye on your back, all that stuff. We'll see if he can do it. House was saying how the thing that makes some difference is that Koepka is all about majors and winning majors and taking down majors and doesn't really care about the other stuff. Could care less about the FedEx cup and all that shit. He just wants to rack up the majors. So maybe he'll be different. I thought Spieth was different. Spieth didn't have the

success Kepkes had, but- I did too. I love Spieth. I really thought Spieth was like, wow, this guy is the perfect golfer. He doesn't even have a heartbeat. He's just a cyborg. It's going it's gonna be fun to watch and we don't we haven't even mentioned dustin johnson who i think has got his four second place finishes in a row in major the king of runner-ups yeah it's it's weird i root for him but it there's something sad about him and i can't put my i know he's had some personal issues that he got through, but there's a sadness to him that he kind of want to like give him a hug. Do you feel that when you watch him?

Who are we talking about now? Dustin? Yeah. DJ. Oh yeah, I do. And then I hear him speak and it's like, uh,

I don't know. Someone just throw a banjo in his hand already. What are we doing? But my son was doing imitations of seth rollins today it's my new like favorite thing that he does because seth rollins has a little tiny lisp which my son was like oh no so he but he does he i can't do it i'm gonna have to bring him in to do it he does this dead on seth rollins impersonation. Okay. It's pretty good. My son is now on the trampoline two hours a day. It was the greatest thing we ever did. What?

Yeah, we bought this trampoline and he's now got like a 14 pack again. And his new thing is he's trying to recreate all the dunks from the different dunk contests on the trampoline because there's a little basket on it. And he's definitely going to go flying off this thing and into the driveway.

So mark that one down. All right, I'll mark it down. The wrestling, the money in the bank, big return for Brock Lesnar today. I saw that. I still can't figure out what they're doing with him with MMA and UFC and WWE. But yeah, it seems like he's back, right?

Yeah, I mean, the WWE is in an interesting point right now where they, you know, their stock was up to almost a hundred and they had a monopoly basically in the wrestling business. Yeah. And then the last three, four months, it flipped in a lot of different ways. Like the ratings were kind of the worst and most dangerous they've been in a long time. They flipped the SmackDown Raw thing where it was like SmackDown's got one roster, Raw's the next. We have a draft.

We'll switch some guys. Then all of a sudden they're like, fuck it. Everybody can go on everybody's show. They lost some stars. And then there's this new rival that's launched in AEW that has a lot of wrestlers like that the diehard wrestling the psychos like.

Yeah. Like Kenny Omega and all these people. Right. And they signed a deal with TNT. And I don't know. This is their Kevin Durant being out, right? It kind of lit a fire. The rival wrestling league and everything.

Yeah. I agree. And plus they're going to Fox in October, right? Yeah. I should know that. Wrestling does this. It ebbs and everything. Yeah, I agree. And plus they're going to Fox in October, right? Yeah. I should know that. Wrestling does this. It ebbs and flows. And usually it ebbs and flows based on how many stars they have at a given time.

Because usually they need like five to seven really like diehard, awesome dudes that you want. And right now it's a little down cycle. There's been injuries. Some guys got old. Scene is gone. All this this stuff i think you throw shane mcmahon in there any card and it's just it's it's a must watch i mean no he's our age he's our age i was gonna say he's exactly our age and he's flying um you know corner to corner in

the ring and off cages and everything else and spectacular i think i think wrestling will it the wwe will circle back because it always does. But I think that's why they did the Lesnar thing today. It felt a little desperate to me. It was like, we kind of need to do something dramatic

to get people talking on Monday after this pay-per-view. So they did that. Well, I think it's going to seem even more, I think they're going to integrate Hogan into it more and more and more. We saw him at WrestleMania just come out and yell for a couple minutes, but you haven't seen Desperate yet.

Well, the problem with somebody like Hogan is he's, I just don't think he can do any moves anymore, right? Like him, Flair. None of those guys can actually do anything. They'll figure it out. Did you see Fighting With Your Family? Fighting With My Family? What'd you think? Yeah, I liked it.'ll figure it out. Did you see fighting with your family? Fighting with my family? What'd you think?

Yeah, I liked it. I liked it enough, but I saw what the boys who really liked it. Did you not enjoy it? I liked it. My son, uh,

my son absolutely beyond belief loved it. Yeah. I've seen it multiple times already. He's all in on it. Um, multiple times in a theater, multiple times, twice in the theater. And then in the theater, multiple times. Twice in the theater.

And then we bought it on the Tuesday it came out and he's watched it a couple of times. The weirdest thing about fighting with my family is Queen Cersei is the mom and she's got dark hair and just doesn't look like a queen. I'll tell you that much. No, she isn't.

She's like a white trash queen. She's like white trash tattooed wrestling queen. But I got to do, we're going to do Thrones in a second. I want to do Parent Corner really quick though. Okay. All right. I got a couple of things. I have a couple of quick things.

First of all, my littlest son, because we don't spend time with him, just watches on his iPad another family. I think I brought this up. I don't remember time with him um just watches on his ipad uh another family i think i brought this up i don't remember this yeah yeah he just watches like another family and there's this fun goofy father there's a couple of them and it gets like 20 million hits each one but um anyway they uh they he's watching kids he's watching on his ipad kids on their ipad in a tesla so now all he's talking about how is that he wants a tesla so i may have to get my uh five-year-old son a test i i he's driving me crazy i can't get him i'm we might have his birthday party like might rent a couple of teslas and just have these kids in the back and play on their ipads because apparently it's good

all right that's story one uh number two the middle wait hold on their iPads because apparently it's good. All right, that's story one. Number two, the middle kid. Wait, hold on. Hold on with story one. That's kind of where we're heading with birthday parties, right? Where it's a birthday party and every kid gets an iPad for two hours and nobody interacts with each other. Oh, yeah. It's just 20 kids on iPads.

Well, they have these game trucks. You've seen the game trucks, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, you've had, yeah. So, yeah, it would be the same thing, just a little more direct. I need advice on this. I have my you, you, you've had, yeah. So yeah, it would be the same thing. Just a little more, a little more direct. Um, I need advice on this. I have my, uh, 10 year old, we made him play the viola. He's practiced.

Um, he has practiced probably three or four times. And I'm, when I say practice like six or seven minutes each time. Yeah. And he has a concert tomorrow. Oh no. And, uh, I have to blow off this uh other the red carpet event i was uh asked to go to our friend jeff ross which by the way you should come to this um the historical roast yeah yeah that's tomorrow we'll talk we'll talk about it yeah uh but i have to go to this concert

i have to go to this viola concert so as a parent what's your obligation to a kid who doesn't practice at all? You have to go and you have to say it was great, right? I know, I'm an asshole. I know, but he shouldn't be playing the viola the whole time. All right. The last one is a more serious thing. We have kids the same age, eighth graders, right? Going into ninth. Vaping is a big

thing now, right? In all the schools. So much so that the kids do it, they're addicted. So they can't even wait till after school. They do it in the bathroom during school. My son's middle school has now put a teacher or some kind of aid in front of each bathroom and you have to sign in to go to the bathroom so now they can kind of see who's vaping but what they also could do is they could see who's who's shitting so my son is like you know i don't like to go anyway in the uh in the school but now i can't i can't go to the bathroom i can't go number two in the in the bathroom because now the aid knows who it is i said listen i'd rather you vape than be known as the kid that's shitting during school.

Right? Yeah, that was Kyle. That was nephew Kyle back then. Was that you, Kyle? Yeah, that was Kyle. Dude, when you got to go, you got to go. It's like eight hours, six hours you spend at school. It's Kyle every time he comes to my house.

Top floor, never on the main floor. Yeah, he sometimes goes, disappears, goes upstairs. We don't know what happened. Are you vaping, Kyle, or do you have diarrhea? Probably both. All right, so I'm done. There don't know what happened. Are you vaping, Kyle? Or do you have diarrhea? Probably both. Alright, so I'm done. There was no big thing there. I hit all three kids. I think it's important to point out this whole

juuling epidemic. It's pretty crazy. It actually seems weirdly more addictive than cigarettes. Because you can kind of just do it all the time. At least with cigarettes, there's a thing where you have to go, I am going to have a cigarette

and then you go have a cigarette. Jeweling, you can just, it's like looking at your phone. You could do it nonstop. It's too easy. Yeah. And we will be able to smoke our phones soon enough. Oh, no question. What's your thing?

I have two with my son. One, which I did the other day on the podcast, but you didn't hear it, so I'm going to do it again. You know how my son is a liar, but not good at lying yet? Yes. But will be a good liar at some point, but isn't there yet, but he wants to be. So a couple of days ago, he called my wife. He's like, mom, can you come up here for a second? She's like, okay. So she starts to go up the stairs.

He's standing at the top of the stairs and drops his phone and then goes, oh no. And picks it up. He's like, oh no, the screen. And was such a bad actor that she knew immediately that he had broken his phone way earlier, but now was pretending he dropped it. And then she broke him down and within four seconds he broke and admitted that he broke it while playing video games.

So he needs some work. But the thought was there. I think three, four years from now, he's going to be an incredible liar. Oh, that's good. We should send him to bootcamp with our friend Brad, who's not necessarily known for his lying, but he's hit the mean streets for many, many years.

So last week, my son's class goes to Boston. This is the school my son and daughter go to. Every year, the fifth grade class goes to Boston. So comes back and he's kind of like not telling us that much. And he's a little surly and we think it's cause he hasn't slept that much or whatever. Then the next day there's a birthday party at Dave and Buster's. Cause that's one of the new things now is that people like to have their

birthday parties at Dave and Buster's. It's just a free for all video games. And one of the other moms, this kid Jackson, his mom goes up to Ben and my wife's there and a couple other moms. He's like, Ben, big news, huh? And Ben instantly turns bright red and his jaw starts going 40 directions.

Turns out Ben has gotten back together with his beloved girlfriend. Yeah, after eight months. They dated like nine months last year. Then he broke up with her at the start of the year, peer pressure, and then had a dream apparently the night before the Boston trip that they got back together, texted her, asked if they could get back together.

She took him back because you know, when you're in love, you're in love and now they're back. So there you go. That's great. Yeah, it's great. It's great.

So that's good. So now wait, how did you learn about all this? He texted her and he had a dream. Did he tell you? No, my wife basically was like, we're not driving home until you tell me the story and just beat it out of him.

But the big winner in this is my wife because they used to have these double dates with the two moms and then Ben and his girlfriend, they would go out. But my mom, my wife really liked the other mom. So now they're back. So everything's everything's looking up roses my son the only guy who can lock himself down at age 11 that's great really good

wow there's no play in the field the only person who who played it worse i think was our cousin jimmy who just dated three people his whole life yeah and now he kisses a-list celebrities on the mouth as they come out uh wow ben yeah good for ben you know what you may want to sponge off that trampoline just to be safe who knows what that kid's up to uh all right we'll take one more break then we're doing throne game let's take one more break to talk about our old friend, ZipRecruiter. What's the difference between working hard and working smart? I don't know. Look at the Warriors. They worked hard. They've won four straight without Kevin Durant. They've also worked really smart. They put together one of the best five-year runs of any team in the NBA history. Russell Celtics and maybe this. This might be number two at this point.

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of Thrones and then we are done. Sal, plug whatever you want to plug now so people can hear it. Yeah, Jimmy came alive Monday through Friday, 11.35 and lock it in 4.30 to 5.30 Eastern on the East Coast and on FS1. And I'll be doing Against All Odds this week. We'll go over NBA finals, NHL finals, and all sorts of other good stuff.

And we should mention, speaking of Against All Odds, the whole crew is coming to Southern California in mid-July and we're going to Callaway and they're all getting fitted for golf clubs and we're going to shoot a video. Now, one of those people, Harry, was with his boss and friend, Ken, your friend. And there was a picture of them at the PGA today. And you sent it to us with the caption, Reservoir Hogs, because they were walking ahead of each other. They were in step walking. Yeah, well, maybe I'll post it. They're big.

That was one of the funnier texts I've gotten in 2019. I was dying. Ari was screaming at Ricky Fowler, come on, Ricky, stay in the top 20. I have you for 500. Ricky Fowler's like, who is this? Why did I let anyone on? Yeah, the announcers were saying how some of the fans were a little unruly, shall we say.

And I'm thinking like, I think Harry's there. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah, he took a nap in the rough with no shoes. It was a mess. They couldn't find him. I don't know what's going on with these guys. So anyway, yeah, Jeff Chow is asking me,

do you think we could get a video out of the degenerate trifecta doing a Callaway golf club fitting? I was like, a video? I think we can get like- Get a reality show. I think we can get a docu-series. Harry hitting irons in clubs? Who's not watching that? Right.

Anyway- We look forward to that it's gonna be all right throne game let's let's go uh let's just go gut reaction to uh the last episode you get uh gut reaction is i i was pretty sure it was going to be bad and and it was and it was just one result that i didn't want we're spoiling it right yeah we're spoiling it's all spoilers from this point on so some of the online sports books had brand sitting on the throne at mine it went up to minus 500 and i was like ah i really hope this is hbo and game of thrones like putting ten thousand dollars on it spreading it around so to throw everyone off the scent because i did not

want that guy he's done nothing all year He was used as bait in the big, in the first big battle scene. And sure enough, he's the freak. He's on the throne. Now, I don't know if they pay that out because there actually was no iron throne. Thanks to that pissed off dragon who,

uh, who torched it. But, uh, yeah, you didn't want him winning. Did you? The king of comedy.

Now he's just the king. Uh, no, I did not. I actually was hoping Sansa would get it. Oh, interesting. But, well, let's go through the episode. I was disappointed as well. On the scale of one to the Sopranos suddenly ending, it would probably be in the middle for me for how upset I was.

I wasn't that upset. After the Sopranos, you were the most upset, sports or non-sports, I've ever seen you or heard you. You were out of your mind. I was really mad. I was considering unfriending people who liked the ending. And it seems like now everybody likes the ending. It bummed me out out but one thing it has done my expectations are so low for endings like for shows like this i took one thing and i know you'll do your thing in a second but the in game of thrones defense i think it's very difficult for shows like this with multiple carry like dozens of characters to tie up all the loose ends like you're going to be disappointed even in an episode you liked i like the last one i like me too when danny broke bad

like all right maybe it happened too quickly too abruptly but i kind of liked it she was badass it was fun um but even that said you can find 15 things wrong with it but i think that's just how that's how it was with lost too right even the great episodes it's like oh come on that couldn't happen even in a you know whatever so all right tell me what what do you want to start with this i'm just going to go through the episode and chime in when necessary i'm going to play some throne game so starts out tyrian um magically is able to find where his sister and brother are buried under all these rocks. Not even buried under a lot of rocks. It's like you can lift one brick up and oh, there's Cersei.

And I kind of felt like they could have gotten out of that. Felt like they should have been under like three. Yeah. Like three layers of rocks before, you know, he should have been digging for seven hours, but moves one brick, whatever. Yeah. Maybe see a foot or something and then start to go. Well, I guess he can't lift a lot.

So that would have taken the whole hour maybe. But all right. And then very upset about Jamie, not as upset about Cersei, obviously. I would have liked to have had her do the wake up for a split second and then die moment. Like the scary thing. But that didn't happen. So they're done. And if you notice, they're both dead with him lying on her, kind of like they're almost

like dead cuddling. Right. Yeah. Dead spooning. It's a big thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So it starts out with the show. First episode ends with a doggy style sex scene that ends with him pushing Bran off the tower and ends with them cuddling in a pile of rocks. So there you go. Right, right. Dany gave a big speech. She talked a lot in that weird language, which I think, do you think they actually write that language out or do you think she just ad-libs words and then they just put subtitles

underneath it i think at this point they do have to write it out because the the the maniacs mostly in the ringer would would freak out if something didn't make sense study that language you can oh kyle said it's out there kyle studies that language when he's taking a dump in the second floor of my house i saw in the office how can anyone even hear what she's saying they're banging their sticks against the ground like we're supposed to believe they know every time she's going to stop and every time she's going to resume her speech she should throw in like an occasional english word just to make all the thrones maniacs mad. Like, mean mom! Mean him! Sony PlayStation! You got me all!

A ba-ba-booey once in a while couldn't hurt. Hey, what's up? So anyway, she decided Tyrion was treasonous. And then Tyrion goes, Jon Snow and Tyrion, they get together. And Tyrion's basically like,

can he, you gotta do this. You gotta just kill this lady. Like, what are you doing? What are we doing here? And some really good quotes. Everywhere she goes, evil men die and she becomes more powerful for it. Like that one. Love is more powerful than reason.

Love is the death of duty. Sometimes duty is the death of love. These are things you and I have never said to each other as we talked about our marriages not yet it's more like not on a podcast it's more like my wife's really mad i have to go away again this week stuff like that right right so john then goes to see diany to kind of you know that was a necessary scene it was a good scene because you figure oh he, he's being a pussy. All right, cut to the next scene. Yeah, that's what I thought.

I thought they were like, all right, this is Tyrion's M.E. clip. He's going to get killed in the next scene. Jon Snow is going to pussy out like he always does. Dany's going to fall off a dragon, and then Sansa's going to take over, or maybe Arya kills her or whatever. Jon goes to see Dany. Dany's ogling the throne, really excited about it.

Checking it out, all these swords, bragging. I've heard stories about all the swords that killed that guy. Then they had this whole conversation about the future and what's good. And Jon's like,

well, how do I know what's good? She's like, you're just going to have to trust me. It's all going to be better. He's like, well, how do I know? And they do this kind of dance. And then they break up. They broke up because he plunged a knife into her heart and killed her. Yeah, yeah.

Rough breakup. Yeah. I'd like to think they were dating until the tail end. Yeah, people get mad rough breakup. I'd like to think they were dating until the tail end. Yeah, people get mad if you break up with them over text. That would have been preferred, right? Now maybe a text or a ghost, sir, but in this case,

a knife to the heart. And then the dragon comes in, and that was my favorite part of the whole show when the dragon comes in. Pretty fierce, yeah. Dragon cries. He does this whole,

stands on his back legs lifts his dragon wings out does like the sliced alone um and then uh it seems like he's gonna just blow fire and john snow decides not to and why did it decide not to what do we figure what are there's some theories on they're related right he's a targaryen yeah he can't he can't kill him okay he can't do it okay all right or that that's or there he just kind of liked him okay yeah well then he potentially may have got confused with the dragons but he may have ridden on him right so yeah that's true i think that was he rode stand though i don't think he rode that one that was Bob he rode Stan so then the dragon

just blows fire right next to Jon Snow like basically like here's how bad my breath smells you get away for this it's gonna be

really hot breath right in your vicinity and you're gonna remember that smell for the rest of your life then flies off never see the dragon again apparently

takes Dany crushes the throne obliterates the throne then all of a sudden we're at like a thrones council did you know that was I didn't know Never see the dragon again, apparently. Takes Dany. Crushes the throne. Obliterates the throne. Obliterates the throne. Then all of a sudden, we're at like a throne's council. Did you know that was? I didn't know. And then we moved ahead.

Now everybody knows Jon Snow killed her. Like a whole bunch of scenes were skipped. Tyrion is in handcuffs still, but now everybody knows Jon Snow, and he's got to be whatever too. But then there's a council. I don't really remember how he ended up with a council. Brianna Tarth's on it. Yeah, so this scene, this can't be,

even the greatest Thrones apologists, I can't imagine more than 10% of people are okay with how this ends up. But yeah, keep going. They're all in it. It's like 12. It's like the high table in John Wick, basically. And there's some randos in the in the 12 i didn't really understand how we ended up with a couple of them like sam sam that's the guy's name right sam sam yeah yeah sam was in there pretty sure he shouldn't be on the like

lead council to decide he shouldn't even be alive the way that battle scene that was insane bizarre like i would have tried to mix that i would have torment the guy the viking guy with the beard no that would have him on there and i don't know i would have mixed it up a little bit more so they have this council and then they all realize like they need a new king or a queen and there's no policy in place and one guy stands up and starts to plead his case they tell him to shut the up and and they just kind of don't know what to do. And Grey Worm's like, can we just, let's just kill Tyrion and then we'll figure it out later.

Then Tyrion's like, hey, I have some ideas on what we should do for the next king. And everybody shuts up and listens for the next five minutes as he lays out the whole case for, actually it should be Bran because Bran remembers everything that's happened in the past. And the stories are what should make a great king. And that's why we should take this guy who can't walk and who creeps everybody out and is the least funny character in the history of television.

And let's put Westeros in his hands. Let's do this. And by the way, are we supposed to believe that all these different entities know the story of Bran? I got the impression that everyone was just hearing it for the first time, aside from Sansa and Fat Sam and everybody and those people. I think it's like, hey, listen, look at the guy. He remembers everything. He has magic powers. He hasn't demonstrated them for any of you in the last few minutes. But trust me, you know what?

Even if you don't believe he has magic powers, he was pushed out a window. He's a cripple. Let's just make him king. Come on. What do you say? And to a man, they're all on board except for his sister, who actually knows the story. And she's like, yeah, all right, you could do that, but we're going to separate.

The North is the North. Yeah. You be by yourself. Everyone votes yes. And she's like, hold up. Yeah. Basically she negotiates. I'll take the North, make me queen of the North,

and I won't make a big fuss here. And I want your 2021 first round pick. And you got to throw in Frank Nitalinka. And that's it. And then we're good to go. So this is the Daniel Jones of all drafts right there. Yeah. Everybody's good right away with this. All right.

So the creepy cripple, he's going to take, he's going to be the new King. And then a SOTS is going to get the North. And then they're like, what about John Stone? And it's like, well,

he'll just be with great. Great. Worm's bad. Now he's like, really, and then they're like what about Jon Snow and it's like well he'll just be with Grey Worm's bad now he's like really? Really we're doing this? So basically I give up my life, I lose my girlfriend this guy stabs my queen in the heart, we lose all

the dragons, all my Dothraki dudes are dead, or no he's not Dothraki right? What is he? Grey Worm's Dothraki dudes are dead or no he's not dothraki right what is he no he oh he's unsullied yeah he's like you the unsullied which by the way you don't know if there's 18 unsullied left or or 200,000 right yeah so he's just bitter and then on top of everything like john snow gets to live uh brand, the unbroken, no brand, the broken brand,

the broken Tyrion, who's about to get the electric chair. Then say saves his life with the five minutes. Will it be becomes the hand to the King names him brand, the broken and doesn't. And then everything's fine. And now he's not, not a trader and didn't commit treason.

And, And then everything's fine. And now he's not a traitor and didn't commit treason. And the only one that everybody really likes, Jon Snow, is he's exiled to the winter area, to the north, with all these terrible people. And everyone's okay with it, even though there's only one person who doesn't like Jon Snow at this point. It's Grey Worm. It's Grey Worm. It's Grey Worm. He's out.

So it's like everybody likes Jon Snow on one side. Grey Worm's on the other side. Jon Snow is basically on the Knicks with KD and Kemba and then gets traded to the T-Wolves and now has to live in Minnesota outdoors and play for, and hang out with Tormund. And hopefully every once in a while I'll get a Wilding thing. Well,

that looked like the start of like a Bud Light commercial when he locked eyes with Tormund, right? I was like, they're back. There's going to be beers flowing. I mean, that's instead of a prequel, they could just do the postquel.

yeah, you're right. So, so Sansa keeps the North. I'm trying to think oh i was thinking um i wrote down in my notes first of all who was the one who said brand has no interest in being king and he can't father children oh sansa there was yeah it's tough yeah i don't know i wasn't bringing endorsement of brand's candidacy

it's tough there's gonna be the king he can't walk and he can't fire the children can we come up with a better choice everybody's like no actually no this is our choice yeah forget the curry's this is the sibling rivalry or the the hound and the yeah it's this is it was incredible and like that that was the last thing I wanted was for brand to rule. But at least if it was going to happen, make it some magical shit. Don't make it some Tyrion. Who's really about to have his head cut off.

Like you said, anyway, that he wins over all these people who have no idea who brand is. Come on. And then give me a break. And then brand who doesn't really say he's like that guy who he doesn't, doesn't really say anything, offer anything, offer any help, any guidance, any real reason that something should happen. But then after it happens, he's one of those.

Oh, I told you that was going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was going to happen all along. It's all preordained. It's like, well, if you knew if you know everything's preordained could you just fucking tell us before maybe danny burns down an entire city do you knew that was preordained could you have just given us a tip heads up it's like he's got deon warwick yeah he's got like the biff what was the biff sports encyclopedia back to the future too yes he basically sports all yeah he has that and doesn't share the information with

anybody he's just like oh yeah i knew that was gonna happen yeah i knew that i knew he was gonna kill daddy yeah there's oh yeah and terry and yeah i knew i knew this is all gonna work out and you're gonna be my hand because that's right he knew even though the night king was nose to nose with him that sanza was gonna come in the last minute and even though she was a hundred miles away from the whole thing and and uh saved the day he knew the whole so you have this fucking council and at no point does anybody on the council say hey bran you seem to know everything that happened and is going to happen what would happen if you became the king how would that go can you just tell us can you save the time so we don't have to have the vote would you be a king can you lay out the next 40 years for us? No, nobody brings that up.

Right. So in a way, I'm glad they rushed through it. But yes, you're right. There should have been a little more to it that everyone is now the first time anyone ever agrees on the one king. This is going to be it. No questions asked. Well, I was saying the irony of this being on the same day as the Money in the Bank pay-per-view. This is basically brand cash to suitcase. Oh, yeah. saying the irony of this being on the same day as the money in the bank pay-per-view this was

basically brand brand cash the suitcase oh right it was gonna be it was looking like sansa and then brand came flying in with the suitcase it was like ding ding ding oh whoa whoa all right and then he took the he took the throne basically it was a money in the bank throne match so can a series be ruined by by its finale i had a couple people email me that the first six seasons were mj first six bulls titles and then these last two were mj wizards i that's not as insulting of an analogy as it seems like because i actually enjoyed the last two MJ Wizards seasons even though they didn't result in any titles right right right

I enjoyed this season more than most I just didn't really like the council thing I thought it was too fucking crazy it ruined it like have some supernatural thing happen with Brian if you're gonna do it just too fucking crazy it ruined it like have some supernatural thing happen with yeah if you're

gonna do it just it just too too much uh we trust you little guy go ahead go on everyone go on with their lives and then for sansa turn her back on it you know like what a what a petty thing that was well i don't think anybody anything gets uh hundreds of thousands of soldiers fired up more than the words brand the broken who's your leader it's brand the broken oh awesome and then is it related to bob the builder no no they're broken brand the broken gray poor gray worm he's taking over the unsealed and he's like all right he's brand the broken i guess i'm gray worm no genitals right it's happening the broken gray worm no genitals are feuding this is now the worst thing that's ever happened to me it didn't seem possible but yes uh so john still say goodbye

to the starks but they're not are they related anymore kyle i still can't figure out what his mom his mom is a stark okay yeah his mother's did they all have the same mom though no so they're like he's like a cousin exactly so they thought he was a bastard half brother but he's actually just their cousin exactly all right so you and i i mean you want to talk shooting percentage good job by those dragons somehow somehow killing off hundreds of thousands of peasants and everyone and you know anyone in their path, but, uh, managed to save 13 of the 15 main characters in that battle scene.

Pinpoint him. Episode. So Johnstone said goodbye to all the Starks. Not as emotional as I wanted it to be. I did like the, uh, farewell with Aria. And then,

um, she's going West of Westeros, I guess. So she, she's becoming a pirate, it looks like. I'm into that. Right? That's fine.

If they wanted to do a post-quel, Arya the pirate in the 1300s. I guess it would be the 1330s now. That would be good. Sansa's queen of the north. Bran is Bran the broken, the king of everything except for the North. Jon Snow is just hanging out in Minnesota with Karl-Anthony Towns and Ghost, who has now one ear. Never heard the story of that one either.

Why does Ghost have one ear? Oh, what? The wolf. The wolf? Yeah. Oh, yeah. What happened to the ear? I don't know.

No explanation. They had to maim Ghost. I didn't even notice it had one ear. It only had one ear it only had one ear yeah they had to maim Ghost why'd they do that

I think it cut off its own ear after listening to the tribal council there it was like I can't hear this anymore they told Ghost

Brad the Broken is now in your cake he's like I'm cutting my ear off this is bullshit yeah and then the other highlight

from the ending was Breanne somehow had a yearbook and she's writing Jamie's story and and kind of it was like when you're graduating high school

and you're writing whatever she did that I was hoping for her but she was pregnant would have been fun and maybe they cut that out but there was about a 10 seconds there where it was like Breanne of Starth now carrying a new Lannister and maybe they cut that out but for there was about a 10 seconds there where it was like brianna starth now carrying a new lannister and maybe you know well you have to read you'll have

to read the the book read that book earn sammy's book yeah so then uh then it just kind of ended with john snow as this sad life walking he's withund and they're going to look for some some uh some wilding people it was unsatisfying oh and then all the brothels are gone forgot to mention that we lost all the brothels yeah yeah yeah so that was sad so that they were making big decisions there so that was it right that I laid I hit everything no I think that was it um i don't know yeah they were killing villagers in the beginning captives and it was that struggle i think you should call who who got killed on lock it in this week well clay won and i lost i i came in second oh it's too bad because you could have called him clay the broken maybe that's what you should call him as the king i think i am going to call him clay the broken it's as absurd uh gesture well

so i give so disappointed i give the first three seasons um an a plus plus plus i give the next three seasons like a b plus and then i would, I would go B minus for these last two. I still think it's like incredible television. Like last week's episode was, uh, was out of control. I loved it. I loved it.

We need to talk about Cobra Kai. I think Cobra Kai's, uh, uh, high school fight scene. Everyone knows karate was better than any of the game of Thrones scenes. So you caught up, you saw

the whole second season we finished that we watched four saturday and ended it yeah the last episode was really great so good so really good i don't ever watch anything with my son wife we were like oh my god like we really were on the edge of our seats when it um we're allowed to spoil yeah we might as well oh it's been on for three weeks. Yeah. Right here. Did I tell you what I thought was going to happen? Yeah.

You told me Allie will come. You think she's a doctor? Yeah. I was a doctor. She's going to come back and fix Miguel's back. You don't know that for sure. You don't know. She's a doctor.

Do we learn? She was, it said she was Dr. Allie somebody. Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's right.

At the end on the phone. I have a show for you that i thought i did not watch until this weekend i thought was an incredible binge watch all right you were tweeting about it's called all american it is like the oc cross with friday night lights cross with the white shadow it was a cw show so i never watched it but then it went on netflix tay diggs is in it my wife likes tay. She's like, can we give this a chance? And it's a football show. And in the first show, the kid's at Crenshaw High and the coach of Beverly Hills High, played by Taye Diggs, convinces him to switch to Beverly High School because it'll give him a better chance to become

an All-American. So he joins this team. It's like the classic outsider comes into the new school with the rich kids and the people who don't like them. And now he's on the football team and he's got to get along and two girls like him. And he's still got the ties to Crenshaw and there's gang stuff and it's really good. Yeah. I'll give it a shot. And everyone watches it.

I recommend it. The funniest thing about this is there's a football game and Malibu has a football team in the game they have a huge Beverly High School has a huge game against Malibu it's the Malibu Dolphins they have the uniforms and everything

and then there's another game against Culver City so they're just like listing LA suburbs like they have football teams that's fine luckily I'm all caught up in TV so I can add this to that It's Culver City. So they're just listing LA suburbs. They have football teams. That's fine. Well, luckily, I'm all caught up in TV, so I could add this to the roster. All right. What's your big bet for this week? I think we bounce back with the Bucs.

I agree. I haven't thought about it enough, but the fact that they're favored, they may be a three-point favorite by Tuesday. We'll do Bucs line and Warrior's money line. All right. Sal, pleasure. Thanks for coming on. Good job on you.

Good job on you, buddy. All right. Thanks so much to the Cuz. Rusillo, I think, is probably coming back next week because we actually did two yesterday. So one of those counted for this week. And then next week, we'll have a great, big, awesome finals preview for you. Thanks to DAZN. Don't forget to go to DAZN.com. Sign up. Thanks to HairClub. Whether you're looking to revitalize the growth of your hair or learn more about the latest proven methods for hair replacement and restoration, HairClub will craft a personalized solution. Go to HairClub.com slash Simmons today to get a free hair health and scalp analysis for new customers. Enjoy a $250 savings on any qualifying hair club service after your initial consultation. That's hairclub.com slash Simmons. Back this week with two more podcasts. Don't forget about the rewatchables

pods as well. And don't forget about Binge Mode, last Binge Mode Game of Thrones ever on Thursday. The Binge Mode Game of Thrones ever on Thursday. The Binge Mode podcast will continue, obviously. But the last Thrones podcast I'll probably ever do Thursday. Looking forward to it. Until then. I don't have a few years with him on the wayside I'm a person never lost

I don't have a few years