The Bill Simmons Podcast - Drake Definitely Beats Buffalo, Baker for MVP, a Bad QB Draft, Guess the Lines, and Parent Corner With Cousin Sal
Episode Date: October 6, 2025The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to react to the Patriots taking down the Bills, and other Week 5 highlights (2:33). Then, they have a bad QB fantasy draft before guessing the lines... for Week 6 and ending with Parent Corner (50:33). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo Fill your fridge with Michelob ULTRA - the official beer partner of the NBA. https://www.doordash.com/p/play-for-an-ultra ENJOY RESPONSIBLY© 2025 ANHEUSER-BUSCH, MICHELOB ULTRA® LIGHT BEER, ST. LOUIS, MO. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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All right, live on YouTube on a Sunday night.
I just watched my favorite football team beat Josh Allen in Buffalo.
Say it, Sal,
Drake definitely was the fan of the game.
My guy, my guy.
I never stopped believing.
Drake definitely came through.
some big-ass plays.
We needed some wild plays from them.
All the worst guys in the team made penalties
in the second half, and I started to wonder
if it was going to happen, and they held on South.
What did you see?
I am not going to love this, Bill.
This is going to be a rough 90 minutes
or whatever we're doing here.
No, he was freaking great.
He still Drake, maybe, still barely beat
the truly terrible dolphins and lost to the Raiders,
but he made every single time.
row count today. I mean, I don't even know where you want to start. To me, like, that last play
where he didn't get sacked was as big as anything. And to me, when he rolled right. Yeah, when he rolled
right and hit dig. Like, that was amazing too by his own 10. But I'll let you glow. Go ahead. Go
crazy. Well, I really thought this was like a solid team with a chance to be a playoff team before the
year. And then they stunk. And then there were real signs the last two weeks, but they had to show it
tonight. The two big things for me, Diggs was incredible. I was on text threads with Pat's fans,
like trying to figure out when was last time they had a true number one. And as much as I love
Edelman, he was like a sort of number one. He wasn't like this. Edelman was amazing. He's one of the
best playoff receivers ever. But he wasn't like this where it's just like every single time
he needed to play. He was just getting open. He was creating yards after. So that, and then Gonzalez
was just outstanding. And had the big play of the game. That it was.
such a good play. It almost seemed like it was past interference, but they replayed it.
I would have looked. Did you see a replay? I saw the replay from down the field from the end zone.
They decided not to show the good replay, I think. Chee-D Gonzalez is what I call them, but whatever.
But that was just he didn't play the first couple games. So, you know, they had enough impact dudes out
there. There's still no depth. There's still dudes that are involved that will not be on the team two
years from now. But for the most part, like, we watch football a day. They're not an elite team,
but I think they can, you know, kind of swim around on that next swimming pool, right?
Yeah, for sure. And the digs thing is fun to me because he wasn't exactly great with the,
with the bills, right? So when you give the your ex team an F you, when you didn't really
maybe give it your all, maybe he did give it at all, it's all. But he wasn't, it's like,
it's always weird. What the hell that must really screw with their minds. Well, he was good to
start the last the last year i don't think went great right and you know he had the
and minnesota too is the same thing where people were unsure of what a great teammate he was but
he's been an amazing teammate on the pads he's found out of blood they've been saying it all year like
leader leader leader sometimes these guys find it in the early 30s but um what did you think of
the buffalo side of this before we dive into more pat stuff because they were really sloppy they
couldn't get cook going and the pats i think have an excellent run d um cook could
never really get unlocked but um i don't know they it just it's a pretty choppy game for a sunday
nbc game by them yeah for sure especially the first half hour or so right there were three
turnovers you guys went back and forth and that's kind you kind of needed everything that happened to
the bills today to win that game right they had the two fun they were coming into this game i think
they only had two turnovers right of the whole season they gave us two in the first half two in the
we gave them four extra points by not going for it on the one yard line with four seconds left which
I did not.
I thought they should have gone for it because you need points to beat Josh Allen.
I just would have, I just feel like Drake should be able to get a yard on a sneak.
He's six foot four, he's 230 pounds.
Like we should be able to get a yard.
I don't know why that wasn't the play with 10 seconds left, the sneak because you had a timeout left, right?
Well, what was it?
Six seconds?
I don't know.
We had the four seconds left, but I don't know.
It's just, I thought they got conservative, but obviously they felt like they could slow down Buffalo's defense enough.
turned out to be the right call.
It was a Brable Masterclass.
It really was.
I thought he really, like, the pace of the game, how they tried to control, keep Josh
off the field.
It was all the stuff like he did when he was in Tennessee.
I also want to say, I'm celebrating.
I don't know if you can see it, but I have a nice hot water with a lemon.
I name, I'm going to burn my hand pulling it out.
Is this the Bill Simmons?
Like there's an Arnold Palmer's.
No, it's the Drake May.
That's what this is.
It's the hot water with the lemon.
Lemon victory drink.
It's good.
Which is why I'm sweaty right now.
Listen, on behalf of all Patriots fans, you know, we had Brady for two decades.
Before that, we didn't really ever have anybody.
And then we hit that bleak.
You don't have a quarterback stage at things again.
And we knew the whole time with Brady.
It wasn't like we were like, oh, I'm taking this for granted.
It was like, oh, man, this is going to end.
It's going to suck.
And then you have all these dudes.
And Mack Jones turned out to be disappointing.
I'm glad he's found himself full on San Francisco and Cam Newton.
and, you know,
Hoyers in there,
all the,
Zappy, all these dudes.
And you start to wonder,
like,
how many years are we just
not going to have a quarterback?
Like,
if you're the Raiders right now,
if you're the Browns,
you know,
sometimes this could be two,
three decades,
and they have a guy.
And so they beat Buffalo,
but more importantly,
like,
they have a guy,
they know they have a guy,
and there's only 10 of them,
and they have one of them.
Love this,
love this,
love that you're overconfident again.
Love that this means,
we could wait a couple weeks
before digging into
if Zion's going to win
comeback player of the year
for the...
Oh, that's next week.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I love it.
I love right where you are.
No, but of course, I get what you're saying.
We sit through those 1 p.m. Eastern games and you have to figure out, I think we're going to
do the exercise in a few minutes.
Yeah, we're going to do a bad QB draft later.
I mean, we saw so many bad quarterbacks today.
So many, so many.
And that's it.
It's like having a herp.
Like, it's it's on your lip for the next 20 years when you have one of these quarterback.
I call it a herp.
A herp?
Yes.
Is that a horse?
Herp?
A herp.
Herp.
Never heard that.
Oh, my God.
Now I was going to forget about the hot water because the herp is taking over.
I'm not going to forget because I'm starting to sweat.
I probably need the air fishing on here.
You're going to scald your throat for no reason, 77 degrees.
Of course, my wife was hanging out in the back with a friend of hers having Rosee and then came in and there was like, it was just classic, two and a half minutes left.
And I was like, hey, you know, and then she looked and saw the score.
And at least we've been together long enough where she was like, oh.
You know, it's 2020, eight and a half point underdogs.
What did you think of that line?
Did you take the Pats, by the way?
No, I didn't take the Pats.
Ask me the other side.
Ask me if I had the Bills money line to close out a bunch of parlias.
That's the question you should be asked.
Well, I know you had the Cardinals.
I cannot, absolutely cannot wait to talk about that.
No, we can't talk about that.
I'm going to need to a Wednesday before I talk about that.
So there are no undefeated teams left, and there is only one winless team, the Jets of New York City.
even though they play in New Jersey.
And there's a bunch of four-win teams.
I have no idea who the best team in the AFC is anymore.
And I'm not even sure who the best team in the NFC is anymore.
And I'm not even sure who the 14 playoff teams are.
But tonight was the first night.
I felt like the Pats could sneak into the 6-7 range.
You Baltimore with the year from hell.
If Cincinnati's out with Borough, we thought maybe Vegas,
even if you give two playoff teams to the AFC South,
probably one from the north
and then the Chargers today
who their offensive line
just like completely cratered
and their defense kind of died and they look terrible
so we might only get
two from the AFC
West. Yeah. So that does leave
a spot for them. The schedule is super easy
and
well you thought that. Can they get to nine wins?
You had them as a seven seat. Yeah then they lost to Las Vegas
who hasn't won since and who looks
like they're one of the worst teams in the league.
You're back at it. You're back at it.
It is anyone's game.
I still think the bills are the premier team in the AFC,
although you would think that the smackdowns at home would occur.
Like, you know, they had a little trouble with the Saints last week, too,
before they got, you know, right at the ship.
And then this week, it's interesting, interesting.
This is why we watch every week.
You go back, you look at the Bill's first four in that 41 to 40 Ravens game.
That seems so awesome and seemed like it was going to be an AFC title preview.
We don't feel that way anymore.
They beat the Jets.
everyone's beating the Jets.
Yep.
Beat the Dolphins by 10.
They beat the Saints who hung around.
They couldn't beat the Pats today.
They don't really have an awesome start-to-finish win yet, whereas I look at a team like Denver
that's three and two, it's two plays away from being 5-0, but has some good start-to-finish performances.
I thought they were great today.
Like if you're just talking about best both-sides teams in the AFC right now, I'm not saying
it's going to last, but I think Denver has probably the,
They probably bring the most things to the table out of all the AFC teams.
Buffalo is Josh, which is the difference.
Well, that was the defense, right, that we thought would show up at some point that we saw
last year with Denver.
They were excellent.
I think they dropped them five or six times hurts, probably five, but yeah, really good.
And, you know, we killed Knicks all week and last two weeks and his QBR is bottom four,
bottom five.
But he made some big throws, too.
House called him out on the podcast.
and because he really wanted to take the Eagles money line.
It was like if Bo Nick sticks it to us, so be it, he's been blah, blah, blah.
And he was really bad for the first two hours of that game.
And then kind of rose.
Can we do Mike and the Mad Dog for the rest of the Pat schedule?
Do you want to be Mike or Mike or dog?
I was like being the dog.
Oh, you'd be the dog.
I'll be Mike.
Patriots are three and two.
Week six at New Orleans.
This is a tricky, tricky game, Bill.
A little bit of letdown.
We saw what they did in the Superdow.
Don't give it a W just yet.
But I'll tell you what, we'll give them a win.
We'll give them a win.
Okay.
At the Titans.
Against his old team, you know, they both had this circled on the calendar.
It's got to be a win.
They don't win this.
Forget it.
So if they, I forgot to be Mike.
Oh, yeah.
So, Dog, if they beat the Saints and Titans, they're five and two.
Home Cleveland Week 8.
I know that defense comes alive.
But again, this is a Vrabel victory right here.
I think you get three in a row, including this bill.
Yeah, you're going to win that one.
So that, I'm going to be built for a second.
No, I'm going to be built for a second.
So they're already on a two-game winning streak.
So beating Saints, Titans, Browns would be a five-game winning streak.
That feels too good to be true.
Six and two, they're either five and three or six-and-two, I think, realistically.
All right, back to be, Mike.
Week nine, at Lane home.
all right now i'm going to be billed for a second
anytime panics has walked up against this day
no uh Atlanta Atlanta's home
it's a new yeah where's it all right we'll scrap back at the
god yeah week 9th Atlanta go ahead week 10's at Tampa
yeah that's a tough one week 11 Thursday Jets
I don't know what quarterback the Jets will be on at that point
week 12 at Bengals no no borough oh man
week 13 home for the Giants on a Monday night week 14
by week 15 bills, week 16 at Ravens, week 17 at Jets, week 18 dolphins.
Like this is why I picked them to make the playoffs.
That's some fucking crazy schedule.
They have three hard games.
You know, this has gotten so bad that I'm now looking at them to win the division.
I hate that I'm doing this.
Oh, this is great.
Plus 360, that's actually about right, right?
They're plus 360 to win the division.
Oh, look at you now.
Look at you.
No, that seems low.
Well, Buffalo has, I mean, just their hard world games left at Atlanta, at Houston, at the Patriots, at Cleveland.
I mean, they have an easy schedule, too.
This is the whole thing with the AFC East, where we thought there might be two.
If you could beat them again at home, that's, of course, it's your division to take, I think.
By the way, when we talk about we have a quarterback, thank God.
Like, you have that with Dak right now.
Like, Dak's been great this season.
He's like 30.
I know, but he's, you know, I think Dak, people kind of forgot.
I don't think he had the greatest year last year, but watching all the TVs today,
he was one of the most competent guys by far.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah, yeah.
I just don't know with the Jets.
I really don't know.
I can't give that too much creeds, but, you know, he's doing this without C.D.
Lamb.
He's tossing the ball and, you know, it's getting good results.
And without offensive linemen?
Yeah.
You guys are missing a whole bunch of people.
Yeah.
So just quickly on that game, Cowboys Jets.
Fields now 0 and 26 when the other team scores 21 plus points.
I think that's the most amazing stat in the NFL.
So if you get to 21 points, Fields can't win, basically.
Oh, and 26.
I think how many games that is.
That's almost two seasons of games.
Yeah, even your defense could score and it wouldn't help you
because you're scoring less than 20 there.
Wow.
Yeah, I feel bad for that coach.
I don't want to say they're the worst team in the league,
But when you don't have wins five weeks in, you're right there.
And it feels like Aaron Glenn's, the team's punking him, right?
They can't tackle.
They, you know, they have four, like you said, fields four and a half yards per pass, I think.
Right.
A lot of five sacks to the Cowboys who had five sacks all year.
You know, that said, we're a game and a half behind the Eagles with a home matchup against them.
So NFC East is ours.
I can't believe we're not favored.
I was going to ask you.
No.
9-7-1 is a possible Cowboys record.
I'm just saying it's possible.
Is that a playoff spot in the NFC?
Is that a 7-seed?
Oh, I think so.
9-7-1.
I think so.
I think there'll be a 9-and-8 battling at the end.
But we have a really tough.
I don't want a Mike and the Mad Dog this,
but we have a very tough one.
We have a tough stretch games like weeks 12 through 17 is bad.
It was an interesting game today because, like,
Sheel had a stat that the Jets had the most.
most 10 plus plays, 10 plus yard plays today. They had 19, 10 plus yard plays. They actually moved
the ball. They had, they got stopped on a couple fourth downs. They had a fumble inside the
10. They're also defensively, I can't believe the stats true, but I read it on ESPN, so I'm assuming
it's true. They're the first team since 1933 to not have a defensive turnover in the first
five games to not have a single
turnover. Wow. That happened since 1933
apparently. Wow.
Yeah. How's that possible? But I guess it's
possible. Oh my God.
It's almost a hundred years.
Now I feel extra bad for Aaron's
because that's, he has to count on
at least three turnovers through five
weeks. Right. That's despicable.
That was supposed to be his big thing, right? Right. So then
I think Rich Chimini's
one of the guys who covers the team,
he said that first half that they played was on par
with the Gay-era, the worst of that, the worst of, what I said,
the co-tight era, like the worst coaches they've ever had.
It was the worst half he'd seen since he'd come in the thing.
I thought he said, Gay-Sara.
I was like, what?
What is this?
Remember Adam Gase?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was now, I think, coached the high school.
Flowing out, yeah, yeah.
So on the Cowboys, are you, Ewing Theory?
Do we have to send Ewing Theory committee to Dallas?
Like, what are you thinking?
I just won all ties.
You never won anything with Michael Parsons.
I was bummed with in Ty.
I wanted to, like, 14.
ties at the end of the year. I wanted to go like,
you know, like 8, 6
and 3? No, not even that much.
2, 3 and
11th, you know, like an
English premiere record or something, but
yeah, I'm all right.
I was overall
happy with the 40, 40 performance
and I'll be all right.
Again, until like November when it gets tough again.
So we should beat the Panthers. So
and we have trouble with them typically.
And so let's see what happens next week.
Well, you seem
fairly well coached, at least on offense.
Yeah. Yeah.
So, at least you got that. You know, you like that round.
I haven't seen that. You see that round up, the locker room speeches by the coaches.
Oh, yeah. I didn't see his today. Was it good? Yeah, he said the players usually sit in the back of the plane.
Today, the players sit in the front of the plane. That's what happens when you get a road win.
So that's nice. There's some steps.
Well, it feels like there's an incredible amount of pressure on those speeches now.
Yeah, right, right.
They got a guy with a four KHD camera, seven inches from your face.
And you basically have to turn in a Pacino and any given Sunday every week.
And you've got to remember who the four people who get the game balls.
And you got to go around.
You got to make eye contact with everybody.
You got to have the right enthusiasm.
Like, what if somebody's just not good at that?
They just tell them no cameras?
Then they're not going to get the Oscar.
They're not getting the coach of the year award.
I mean, I really do think everything else equal.
Those dumb speeches make a difference, you know?
Not that Dan Campbell's won too many.
of him, but I think he's great at that.
Do you think Dennis Green must be
wherever he is? I don't know if he's dead or alive.
If he's, if Dennis Green is like,
like, man,
I really missed my era.
If we'd been in this era being filmed
with the postgame speech with the 4K camera,
I would have been fucking Newt Rockney.
Yeah, yeah. It'd been amazing.
Is there a class you should take before that?
Is that as important as everything?
And so that you should take a class to
just kick ass in 40 seconds in a post game?
It's longer than that.
like four minutes.
And you have to remember
like different things.
Right.
I like when they have to,
when they throw the game ball
and the guy has to then talk.
Yeah, right.
And it's like the,
it's like the nickel back
or like the kicker.
You're like, yo,
we got a great group of guys in here, man.
You got to keep it up, man.
Let's keep, let's keep working.
And they just kind of,
they don't know what to say.
They need to coach those guys too.
Yeah, they're just not ready for it.
And then some guys will be amazing.
Yeah.
All of a sudden they're like,
They're turning into like a preacher.
Some go too long.
They should maybe play them off or do the comedian thing where they shine the light or something.
But yeah, it sucks all the energy out.
The long snapper doesn't need to go for three and a half minutes.
My favorite was last week when we talked about that Ben Johnson one last week.
When he was basically like, this is what we knew.
And it was like the other team could have a field goal and he would have lost.
All they did is make a feel go.
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in a long time with that Philadelphia blocked field goal touchdown that we all thought was like
well this we won't top that this year we topped it cards Titans I think is the bar I think it was a
9.9 for if you bet on Arizona just your so my first question is did you bet on Arizona
I, all over the place, all over the place.
I had them, the Ringer 107, minus 8 and a half, loved it.
Had them money line parlay, loved it, had them in multiple eliminator pools to a point
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You got that spiteful.
Yeah, is that spiteful?
Now I'm angrier.
It's funny because, like, people ask me, my wife.
is like, don't you get tired of watching the same games over and over?
It's like, no, no, no.
They're not the same.
Because in this one, an idiot dropped the ball at the goal line with no one around them.
And then another idiot intercepted a ball and then fumbled it.
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Pretty cool, right?
Every week it's something different.
But 21-6.
We just talked about this last week.
We were talking about the degrees of stupidly ruining your own touchdown.
Because who was the guy who was the guy who did it last week.
Donnie Mitchell?
The guy in the Colts.
And they'd be 5-0 maybe if he doesn't do that.
Yeah.
With the demarcato today, this was the worst one.
This is, like, he's slowing down and, like, dangling it.
Like, he's Michael Jackson dangling the baby over the balcony.
And just, like, just run over the goal line.
You've one job.
Just keep going.
Do it in the end zone.
Run into the end zone and then dangling it.
Right.
And also, like, we have proof of concept that this is stupid because multiple people have done it
and then gotten excoriated for days and weeks afterwards about how dumb they were.
And now it's still happening.
Yeah.
The touchdown drop at the goal line is like it causes life-changing stress.
I really feel it does.
Like for gamblers and fans of Arizona.
Like,
it's affecting the health of like tens of thousands of people.
I know we want to get rid of like red dye and skittles.
It's fine.
You know, it's shitty for you.
No one's arguing.
But betting on guys dropping the ball for no reason is just as much damage to Americans.
I really, I feel like they should, you should first of all,
should have to pay a million dollars if you do that.
I don't care where you have to find them.
It's a fine.
A fine and jail time, three years in prison.
You hear that?
Amari DiMaccardo, what a terrible person he turned out to be.
Awful.
He's going to try to do better.
He's going to learn from his mistakes.
Not with my money backing him.
I think I said this a couple years ago when this happened,
and I'm just going to reuse the point I made because it was one of my better points.
I think you just black out when you're about to score a touchdown.
Like, I think you lose your mind.
Like, that guy's running.
He had a 76-yard touchdown, right?
He's running full speed.
He got through.
You're sprinting down.
Everybody's cheering.
You see the goal line at the end.
You're on, like, the big scoreboard.
You can see yourself and you're running, and you're just like, I think you just like black out.
You're out of your mind.
How many touchdowns have we seen where they don't drop it at the goal line?
They don't black out.
I'm just saying, like, this guy.
I think you lose your mind.
You don't think this guy ever scored touchdowns
To drop a ball before you go in the goal line
Probably had a thousand touchdowns in high school
You don't think like another explanation
That's my working explanation
Is you black out
He blacked out all right
Yeah he should say that
He should say that
I wonder how I hate that
So because the other explanation is
I thought it would be fun as I crossed the five
To dangle the ball
And see how close I could come to losing it
While I held on to it
That's the only other explanation
I guess guys
That's insane
things. You know what? Can I say something in his defense? Even though I hate his guts. I do.
And I'm not sure they should overturn that. Honestly, it could have been over the, just leave it.
Why do this to people? We'll just keep it a touchdown. Well, so I didn't even want to watch this game.
Yeah. And there were only four late games. And it was just perfect for the multi-view. And I always think
it's weird when there's like three in the multi-view. And there really wasn't a great.
Yeah, it was a blowout. Yeah, it was just like, all right. So I'll keep it on. So you have that.
play but then then uh ward who wasn't good for three plus quarters and then got really good in the
fourth quarter but he had a bad pick i don't think the guy caught it like they kind of glossed over
that like he caught it he rolled over and then he just threw the ball in the air and it's usually like
i i have no idea what it is as we talk about every week i don't know what's a catch what's not right i guess
it was a catch but then we ended up reenacting the dave casper raiders play which was one of the great
plays of our childhood. It was like one of the first great gambling moments. I forget they're playing
like the Chargers maybe. And then it's the last play and he's about to get tackled and he just
kind of fumbles it and they just start kicking it forward and then the Raiders land on it in the end
zone because they cheated all the time at everything back then. And they had to change the rules
after that play that you couldn't do that. And yet somehow the Titans did it today. Right. And yeah,
like I said, disgusting, kicking it over. And, you know, so I'm just trying to figure out the
spread, right? So the eight and a half. 21-6, D. Macardo should score. It should be 286.
The game's over. Game set match. Definitely not losing the game at that point, right?
I don't think they're... Five percent covering at that point. Yeah, you would need the two
touchdowns. Well, the other thing is they score and they cut it. It was to nine with the
extra point coming. And instead of going for two, they went for one and missed the extra
point. Right. Which made me think I actually had a chance. So Arizona was still Arizona minus nine. So
They did like a little dick tease for the Arizona bet.
It's like, no, no, we're still going to fuck this up for you.
I had a bunch of those dick teases with Cincinnati, too.
I had them.
I just got to stop with bad teams and bad quarterbacks.
Just the worst.
I mean, as you know, I just would never put Kyler in a tease or parley ever.
It's one of my rules.
Although another one of my rules is don't bet on the Europe game and I still continue to do that.
Not early enough.
So did you see that clip where it's possible he got a mild concussion from the shotgun snap?
Yeah. The ball had, you can't really even make this up anymore.
He got his belt. It almost was like Tim Anderson, Jose Ramirez, kind of like, did one of those.
And they had to take them off. That was another thing that happened in this game.
But that wasn't, yeah, we mentioned all these things, the highlight of the game.
Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. The highlight was Spiro Didis and Adam Archelette are our announcers.
Yeah. Tennessee has the ball. They're down to and they're driving. And they have a,
they're clearly just settling for a field go to win the game.
And Spiro goes, Tennessee isn't thinking about the field goal.
They're going for the win.
It's like, well, field goal does get them to win.
So I think Adam Archiletta feels bad.
So now they're setting up the field goal and they're like killing time.
And Adam Archelaide does this monologue that includes the sentence.
This could be a devastating loss for the Arizona Cardinals.
Oh, really, Doc?
You think so?
You think being up 216 and then drop it?
the ball in the goal line and then blowing
a giant lead and then losing
at home and now you're two and three.
You think that was a devastating one?
He felt bad for Spiro.
He felt bad for Spiro. He won up them there. Interesting.
Yeah, the producer was in his earpiece. Like, yo, you got to say
something dumb. Sparrow just really, really blew
it right there. You got to win up.
Listen, we should just be thankful. These analysts are staying
out of prison.
If they can't make sense, whatever.
That was a, I don't even know what to say.
about that story.
Yikes.
Anyway, Arizona,
you liked.
You picked them to win the division?
Yeah, I did.
I did.
And I was about to say,
I don't think that's going to happen.
They're going to be the worst
three and two team of all time.
But now they're two and three
and they're just the worst
two and three team of all time.
They are who we thought they were.
I had an up and down
over unders for the win totals.
I have a division that I think
I'm going to get every single team run.
ABC South.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I went 0 for 4 in the AMC South.
I had Indy 7.5 under.
Houston, 9.5.
Over. Jacksonville, 7.5.
I think I went under on them.
And then Tennessee, 5 and a half over.
And I think it's going to be a clean sweep.
And there are some other divisions I nailed, but it was like, wow.
I just did not figure out anything that was happening.
As laughable as those teams are, if Jacksonville beats Kansas City tomorrow,
that's the AFC South might be the most competitive division, might I say, in this AFC?
I texted you and Hinch today.
I think they switch bodies with the AFC North.
Right.
Although now the Wenguins back in the USA.
No, the AFC North, not the east.
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
The Baltimore, Sincy, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, that's the new AFC South.
Those teams all suck.
No, I'm with you.
9 and 8's probably going to win that.
Pittsburgh fans are like, no, no, we don't suck.
We're really good.
No, you know, they'll be good.
You don't have a good team.
All right, Eagles, Broncos.
Let's talk about that.
173, Denver comes back.
I know Romo's your guy
but I'm just going to be mildly critical
because we just
he's right over my shoulder here
be careful
Romo and Nance were asleep
it's 173
Denver all the yardage
and the first downs
were pretty even
and Nick's missed a couple throws
and they're like the game's over
for them even when it was 1710
and then all of a sudden
Denver's driving again
and Romo's like
Jim I don't know
all of a sudden this is a game
and it's like it's been a game
the whole time
the Eagles have done jack shit
our offense.
The Denver defense has been amazing.
This has always been a game.
Can I defend them for a second?
Yeah, defend them.
Go ahead.
The Eagles put them to sleep.
They're boring.
We said they were boring.
Offensively.
Who did the sleeper hold,
Adrian Adonis?
Who's the number on sleeper holder?
Over my other shoulder.
But who's our number one sleeper guy?
Was it Adonis?
Yeah, yeah.
Roddy Piper and Adonis.
Philly's the Adrian and Donis.
Yeah.
That's it.
He's dead.
They can't invite him to.
That's true.
That's true.
He would be good on the offensive line of that.
You're going to get a boring locker guy, Adrian Adonis.
No.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of bad stories about him.
Lots of leather jackets, bad, health kitchen, fights in the locker room, fights in the locker room,
fights in the locker room, like a legendary locker room fight.
I can't remember with who.
He got his ass kick.
Wasn't boring.
Wasn't boring.
Eagles are boring.
Yeah.
Very boring.
And they got screwed a little bit.
I don't care because of the Eagles, but that was a bad, unnecessary roughness call at the
end. He's going for
another yard. He's clearly going for
lunging. And
so I don't know. I wouldn't have called that, but
they should be able to hold a lead
against Bo Nix. He made some good throws.
But that was it. But like
I said, that's the Denver team we were waiting to see
all year. Well, so they got the running
game going, which started on Monday night.
You could see it against Cincinnati.
Harvey,
right as they were just trying to put a drive together,
Harvey had a really nice
run around the right side where they had him,
and he just had the speed and got around
and it felt like it got them a little juice.
And then I thought Knicks finally looked like
the guy from last year in the last hour of the game.
Like he made some big-ass plays and some good runs.
Their sideline was locked in.
And I loved them.
They went for two.
That's like the perfect example of he's been talking
since the summer, preseason, whole thing.
I like this team.
I think we're really good.
Even when they lost those two games, we're good.
We lost a good teams.
We're a good team.
And then he proved it.
He went for it on two, ran a great play, and then went 1817.
I don't remember seeing that with like seven.
Wasn't it like seven minutes left when he went for two?
Or was it four?
No, it was like half the quarter left.
It was, yeah, halfway through the quarter.
Yeah, yeah.
That was ballsy.
Yeah, like that coach, man.
He's good.
And, you know, now we're going to talk Denver all of a sudden plus 290 to win the
AFC West.
We flip-flop on this a lot.
Well, how about this?
They're three and two.
They're two plays away from being five and O.
Mm-hmm.
Their next five.
They're playing the Jets in London next week.
They're playing the Giants in week seven.
They're playing your Cowboys in Denver in week eight at Houston week nine
and then Raiders on Thursday night, week 10.
That's at least four and one.
Wow.
Unless they really screw the pooch on one of those.
Wait a minute.
And Pete Carroll might have just retired by then.
So you think this, he should hold that.
It might just be like that.
Him and Belichick should just go into the assistant living together.
So nine and a half wins because Fandle's great.
with these updated win totals is minus 125.
They're going to get to 10.
If they play anything there today, they'll get to 10.
Jets Giants, that has to be two wins in a row.
You just have to win both of those.
Your team, you know, I think your team can move the ball.
It seems like on anybody.
I don't know.
Does it really matter who the team is?
You don't agree?
Yeah, we can.
I just, that defense is going to show up or not show up week to week.
So it bothers me.
At Houston week nine, there was a C.J. Stroud resurgence today that I would just tell everyone, be careful.
He was telling us, be careful. What do you say earlier in the week? He's like, I feel like an old man. I feel old.
He's just not coming together.
He used to. He used to.
Four months ago. One thing on the Eagles, have you noticed that they've kind of assumed the identity of the Chiefs last year? I was wondering if it was like that movie.
it follows in New Orleans in February
after they beat the Chiefs, they just took
their being. Interesting.
Where it's like, they're just
in these games, but it doesn't
feel right, but their record's good
and their stats are okay.
And they're always one play away
from being fine.
And yet, it just
doesn't seem like everything's right.
And I don't even know what it is, other than
the malaise of watching the Eagles.
Yeah, they're taking the worst.
I know their corners are weird.
Like, all the good.
good teams because the Ravens used to be the team
that could score but not hold a lead, right?
How many double-digit leads did they blow
in the fourth quarter? It's always a harbaugh
number against them. I feel
like that's what we're seeing out of the Eagles.
Up big against Tampa and then
gigantic plays and Tampa's right back
in it, right? This week, same kind
of thing. So, yeah, unlike the
chiefs who struggle to get to 17 points
by the fourth quarter for the most part,
I don't know what's up
with them. I really don't. Paying a lot
of money for those receivers that
They seemed to just take out for a Sunday drive, and that's it.
And then Barclay just hasn't done anything yet.
And, you know, in the Pats in 2004, when they got the Corey Dillon, the last Super Bowl, they won in the 2000s.
They got this awesome Cory Dylan year.
Right.
And he was like rejuvenated, and it was great.
And then they brought him back for the year after, and it was kind of a year too late for him.
I don't think that's the case for Berkeley because he's pretty young, but he does not look like the Berkeley from last year.
So I would love to know.
I know the offensive line's not the same.
That's it, I think.
But even, it doesn't even feel like they're using them in the same ways, like on those little flare passes and wheel routes.
I don't, they just haven't unlocked him.
So when I watch it, when I watch them, he just doesn't jump out of the TV anymore.
And I don't really understand why.
No, and he, you pay a lot for that TV.
That's like a $30,000 TV.
If you want him to jump out of the screen, he should be able to do it.
No, yeah, he caught that touchdown.
That was a nice bubble pass.
It wasn't that much.
No, I don't.
That's, you're thinking of our cousin.
that's right
craziness
yeah he caught that
touchdown pass
but you don't really expect
you don't see the 25 yards
a good example
like he would
that shit was happening
all the time
he would have games last year
where he'd just single him
and they won the game
yeah sure
and not really happened
in this year
the other one that was
really fascinating
was Buck Seahawks
yeah
and we were texting
afterwards
and I was already on it
about Baker MVP
what is it now
did it go down
it was 13 to 1 after the
game.
And I'll set the segment up properly after.
He's still 13 to 1. Okay.
So in the fourth quarter of that of that Bucceahawks game, I went on Fandoan and looked
at the odds for him for MVP and it was still 15 to 1.
And I was thinking nobody has played better than him this year, period.
No doubt.
And it was weird because of course on NBC after they're talking about DAC and somebody else
are like, no quarterbacks have played better than these dudes.
And it's like, you mean other than Baker Mayfield who has four?
last minute drives already and who's been absolutely fucking incredible and lost
Bucky Irvin and lost Mike Evans and didn't have Worfson Godwin for the first couple games
of the year and just every game keeps them in and has this competitive spirit like he's
clearly the MVP through five games I don't know if it's going to last but how is he not
the like it's not even an argument let me just say well we're doing this live this line is
going to be plus 850 tomorrow based on this conversation that's how much I
I believe. I'm not kidding. Why is he fourth? First of all, Mahomes is ahead of him at six
one. He's got Josh Allen, Mahomes, and love ahead of him. It's outrageous. He's playing so
much better than those guys. And Alan's been good, but not as good as Mayfield. And he's so
exciting. He's such a highlight real. I mean, I know Alan is too. He runs all over the place.
But what was Baker today? First quarterback ever to have 375 plus passing yards and fewer than
five incompletions in a regular season game. He's just really like this is, this is, this
This is nonsensical.
I guess our thing is that you have to be a top two seed.
Why wouldn't they be a top two seed at this point?
I think they're,
I like their chances better in the Packers at this point.
Well, the fact that they're four and one already,
yeah, could they get to like 12 and 5?
Yeah, that 13 to 1 is just, I mean, Stafford's 14 to 1.
He's having a better year, Baker or Stafford.
I'll tell you this, I had Seattle minus 3.
It was a roller coaster ride.
And at some point, they took a seven point lead down the stretch.
And they just had to get a stop, which they hadn't done for two hours because they had no defensive backs left.
And it was, you know, our guy, Mike McDonald finally grew a pair and went for it on a fourth and two and got it for a touchdown, which you should have done two of their games this year.
He finally gets it at least.
But Baker got the ball and I was just like, he's going to go down and score.
Like how many quarterbacks in the league right now would just be like, the fucking guy's going to go down and score?
Like, I know what's going to happen.
And he just took him down.
He'd basically one receiver, a tight end.
Rashad White, who's a backup running back, who looked good today.
But he just patched it together and just made plays.
Can I say something?
It's not just because I bet them to make the Super Bowl.
I think we should put Tampa Bay in the Super Bowl because they're the most entertaining team right now.
For the Super Bowl, we get the most entertaining halftime show, right?
We don't necessarily get the best.
Otherwise, we'd have Ball McCartney every year.
Same thing with the anthem.
Let's just put them.
We can play out the games as long as we come to an understanding that.
the bucks are going to be in the Super Bowl.
I mean, he's great.
He shouldn't be fourth, an MVP.
He should be at worst.
He'll be eight to one tomorrow.
It's an insulting line.
I'm with you.
If we're handing out awards after five weeks,
he clearly gets the most fun player
of the 2025 season so far award.
I don't think there's any question.
And this connection he already has
with Egbuka,
who everybody loved before the season.
We talked about him a bunch.
and he's even better than I thought he was he was absolutely unbelievable he was open over and
over again just torching these uh these Seahawks second stringers that's that was a tough one
and then on the flip side Darnold was great and at the same time as Gino is self-combusting yet
again um he was and then it ends up he he throws a pass that skids off someone's helmet
and is the game ending interception basically for less money than Gino yeah they were 49 for 56
combined. They had scored touchdowns on seven straight drives.
Halfway through the fourth quarter, I think like both teams averaged 12 yards of play
or 12 and 10 or something like that. I don't love every game to be like that,
but definitely a Baker Mayfield game is fun to watch like that.
Certainly not a game I was expecting from the Seahawks.
No. I thought I was a big believer in their defense, but they just passed the point of
of injuries. All right. You spill your water? I was looking to see where we were on time
because we're going to
well I'll do a couple games really quick
Washington over the Chargers
Chargers are up 10 nothing
then they die
their offensive line is gone
and it seems like they might have been
the Rabbit team
I just feel like Denver and the Chargers
have switched spots
like in the hierarchy
and to no fault of the Chargers
because of the injuries right?
We should have known as soon as this game
when they wouldn't make this game three
it was two and a half
two weeks ago we were all saying
You know, Chargers, the toast of the AFC West.
They're going to run away with it and everything.
Yeah, Washington's banged up, even with Jaden Daniels coming back.
It was totally a rat line.
But he was like 12 for 14 in the first half.
Like, yeah, I guess they were up to nothing.
Then they just, nothing, nothing at all out of them.
Eventually, the line gave up.
Lions kill the Bengals.
I think we can officially say maybe losing Aaron Glenn and Ben Johnson
wasn't an unequivocal disaster.
They're going to be all right.
Yeah.
They seem okay.
Cincinnati's two and three still.
The last three weeks, they've been down in games 28 to 3, 28 to 3 and 48 to 3 in the last three weeks.
They've been down 25, 25 and 45.
Why were they my best bet today?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
And then that cock tease at the end.
There were a lot of gambling trends supporting Cincinnati plus 10 and a half.
Like that big of a home dog.
Right.
them coming off a huge loss.
Detroit has a road.
Whatever.
Outdoor game.
You know, even the worst teams don't get blown out by the spread three weeks in a row.
Browning.
Are we going to rank these things?
What are we doing?
We're doing it after the break.
Is Joe Burrow a possible MVP candidate for you still?
We do this sometimes.
If a guy leaves a team and they immediately fall down by 100 points combined in the next three games,
should he get some boats?
I was going to flip it.
Yeah, the answer is yes.
He should be ahead of Jordan Love, I think, at least.
But what is his injury?
Like, would they be much worse off with him in there right now than Jake Browning?
Joe Burrow, like in a footcast?
Yeah, just put him in.
Like with a Walker?
Sure, yeah.
He wouldn't throw four interceptions.
He'd be the first guy to start an NFL game,
but then also be allowed to board an airplane early.
Right.
When they bring in, like, the old people and the people on crutches.
I like it.
Bring him in.
Saints over Giants,
the kind of game that you regret,
winning in January
when you look back
and you're like
why do we have
the fourth pick
oh we won that
fucking giant scatabow
fumbled
scatabo was blaming
his gloves
like my 12 year old
does
and uh
little league baseball
like it's the gloves
I need new gloves
that's why I've struck out
three times in a row
this was the classic
there wasn't enough
to gamble on today
and I never ever put
two bad teams
in a parley
and a Sunday morning
classic like I really think the Saints are going to win I really think the Jets are going to win
I'll put those two with the Colts and it's like four to one odds on a parley like I'm just
going to jump all over that and then and then you're like what did I do you're just watching
Justin Fields rolling to his right and whipping it out of bounds you're like what did I do
I know the rules at this point don't do this um but yeah I mean five five turnovers for the
They should still be able to beat the Saints
But that was a that was a clinic they put on today
Yeah
Panthers over dolphins
A big one for all my dolphins futures
I really needed them to lose this one
For the 19 different dolphin win under bets
But Carolina has somehow won two of their last three
And then gotten blown out in the other game
Bryce Young
It just
He can't get going until he's down 17 it seems like
Right
it's like the boxer that needs to taste their own blood he just needs he just needs to
see indy dalton like potentially warming up and then he kind of activates they ended up
but they had 418 total yards and 26 first downs that was a fun game i don't know if you had
the audio was that they have this collins is the play-by-play guy and he made it like it was the last
super bowl ever the basketball guy yeah he's our friend alica's like yeah that's the hornet's guy
that's our guy i was like that's great and it was him and slareth i think and uh yeah that was a very
in game, even though, like, you kind of knew
the dolphins are going to blow it. They are really
something else. Yeah, something about
two in the last two minutes of these games.
Yeah. I don't see them
getting those six wins for
any reason. And then the last one,
the Texans killing the Ravens
that we talked about CJ's sucking us in,
but the Ravens down one and four,
and it seems like they wrest Lamar last
next week, then they have a buy.
So they might be one in five heading to the buy
and then maybe try to make a run.
But I was looking at the year from health teams,
the last three years
because I couldn't remember
who was who.
The 2020-9ers,
they had gone 12 and 5,
they were 6 and 11 last year,
so they were the year
from Hout team,
a bunch of injuries.
2023 Vikings,
that was the cousins,
Achilles.
They were 13 and 4,
dropped to 7 and 10 that year.
And then the Rams,
the year after the Super Bowl in 22,
they went from 12 and 5 to 5 and 12
where they had all their injuries.
The Bengals aren't on there?
They didn't,
I feel like it was like,
they never came off.
the year from hell is yeah you had to have been really good the year before they were okay after their
super bowl year i guess it was two years after that then maybe no they were okay yeah so so those were
the last one so this officially feels like we're on a streak well it's it's awful with baltimore and like
you know not even in a joking way they lost a former player this week it just seems like it's all like
freaking falling apart from them yeah and you know derrick henry is all over defense yeah yeah now bringing
it back to nonsense like you got derrick hendry
and Jamar Che and all these studs with these weird old quarterbacks.
I don't know.
It's tough.
Vikings Browns, a 6.30 stink fest for us in the Pacific here.
You came back.
When did you come back yesterday?
I was back Saturday.
From Brooklyn?
I'm excited to talk about that.
And we have Carson Wentz versus Dylan Gabriel.
And I honestly didn't think Dylan Gabriel was that bad.
He's at least accurate.
He's tiny.
Like passes will get deflected.
I won't be told my grandkids about him
but he's like fairly competent
and it made me think with all the bad QBs we saw today
we had to have a bad QB fantasy draft
which we did last year
when there's a week like this
where there's so many of them
we just have to for posterity rank them
so I'll give you the first pick
worst quarterback you saw today
yeah and I don't want to insult anyone right
on this list because you know if you don't win this week
there's always there are about a dozen
prove us wrong
yeah Marioo Fields it could be your week next week
when we do this, you know?
Yeah.
But, all right, I'm going to go for it here.
And I know he came back and maybe covered on a teaser or something for Cincinnati,
but I think it's the guy who you and I jinx just four weeks ago
by naming him the best backup in the league.
Yes, we did.
Taking Jake Browning.
He had eight interceptions in four games and didn't even have one in the 283 game that he lost.
But here's a stat you can't beat.
I think we threw this around on a text chain.
At one point, Jamar Chase led the best.
Bengals with three tackles.
And that means your quarterback
is the worst in the league.
So congratulations.
Unbelievable stat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's two other things because
and it really jumps out on the
multi-view and the ability to watch all these games.
The reaction
of somebody after an interception,
it's like that final,
when somebody's just in a slump as a QB
and it's just
like, I don't know,
my girlfriend just broke up with me
kind of body language or just like,
You just feel like their vertebrae are sinking into their body.
He had that once.
And then the receivers.
Chase was like, I'm fucking done with this.
He had that body language going by the,
there was nobody more unhappy to get yards than he was in the second half.
He was like,
he gave me the fuck out of here.
I think, you know, I'll add to that,
that look that Chase gives, that means all week it sucks.
That means, yeah, yeah, I knew it in practice.
If you're a little, like,
oh, man, we would complete this in practice.
You know what I mean?
But he gave that look like, yeah, this is an everyday occurrence.
It's got to be brutal to be in that situation as the QB when, you know, he was good as the backup.
He's clearly lost a little something.
But now you have this pressure.
You have Jason Higgins.
You don't have an offensive line.
You're not playing well.
There's no backup.
There's nobody threatening you.
And you just like can't get it going.
It's a very good choice.
I had to take Gino Smith.
It just seems like it's a.
over he has nine interceptions already in five games and there's like a storied list of people who
have done this and it's all some of the worst quarterbacks he can remember from the last 30 years
the raiders of course about a couple of them um i i can't believe how bad he's been and he's been
bad beyond the interceptions like we talked about that week two monday night game right against the
chargers when he was just sailing the ball over the place like we were joking about his eyesight
last week.
Yeah.
They gave him $75 million for two years.
They gave up a third round pick for him.
And he's worse than the guys they had last year.
If they had, I was looking at who they had last year.
It was like, or maybe two years ago.
Oh, here it is.
It was O'Connell, Minshu, and Ritter.
19 touchdowns, 16 interceptions.
Gino's six TDs, nine interceptions right now.
Not to mention all the other stuff.
And he won his first game.
Yeah, this is all.
And he looked pretty good against the pads.
Like he was making big passes.
In 23, they had O'Connell, Jimmy G, and Hoyer.
They were 16 and 19 that year, 16 to these 19 picks.
But those are the last three years.
The Raider QBs, if you go through the Raiders on Pro Football Reference,
car comes in, they draft him.
And they get like nine years at a car that are like, fine, right?
He made the playoffs that one year.
It was pretty up and down.
A couple of bad years.
But for the most part, it was like, okay.
Yeah.
Right? It was like a C plus.
It was one year in week 14. He was like
tops at MVP odds. I remember. And then he got hurt
or something. But yeah. Yeah. I know.
It was okay. But then you go
before that. Like they had Carson Palmer for two years.
They had Marcus Russell. They had that guy Andrew
Walter. He just go through it. It's like, oh, I forgot about that
guy. Whoa. I forgot about that guy. They have
a million of those.
And Gino is supposed to solve it. And he's not. A million and one.
Yeah, he threw some balls today that not
only should a 13 year vet not know to throw anyone who's ever watched football
anyone who's ever watched a friend play madden shouldn't make some of those throws so
right um and i can't believe he was in at the end like even the colts took out even the
colts put richards in it that was amazing i loved when richardson came in and they cut to
he almost had a fumble and he or he had a pass deflected he caught it and then it cut to
danny dimes on the headset just like laughing it may not be done dimes they thought we were
competing. You may have to come back in. Yeah, I wrote down, so the Raiders are one and four,
I wrote down. Turns out mid-70s, Pete Carroll, a washed up Chip Kelly, a multitasking Tom Brady,
and apparently washed up Gino Smith and the son of Al Davis. We're not the dream team.
In retrospect. Of course, I picked them to be the seventh seed in the playoffs. So I have some regrets.
It was them, Jacksonville, or Indiana, or Indianapolis, and it looks like the other two.
You know, all they'll talk about Brady shouldn't be allowed in the booth.
He can't be interviewing these players.
He can't do this.
He's going to get inside of it.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Gino Smith, your quarterback.
I think Brady solved the debate.
They're fucking terrible.
Like, what kind of inside information is he getting?
He should say something tomorrow.
He should be like, I hope this puts an end to all the talk about my cheating and my
infiltration of the, these interviews.
If I wasn't getting all this inside information, we wouldn't be one and four.
Yeah, right.
So, Gino has the most.
interceptions in his first five games since Zach Wilson in 2021.
Nice.
That is a rarefied error.
Yeah.
Not good.
Not good at all.
Okay.
So I took,
I'm taking Gino second.
You're up next.
Oh,
we're not doing the two,
you don't get two?
Okay.
Oh,
you want me to do two?
No,
you can go.
Let's go back and forth.
You go.
All right.
I'm going to say my guy.
It does it have to be someone played today?
Because I'm going to say Joe.
It has to be.
does it have to be somebody that played
but yeah Joe Mellon didn't play
yeah but he did knock over a fan in his yard
for the past I did see that he doesn't count though
I think Cooper Rush I don't think it gets much worse
honestly he was a good backup
for the Cowboys and he can win games but
no more no
not even confident in his checkdowns
anymore like you talked about Dylan
Gabriel like at least he gets the
ball out fast for his checkdowns you know we're going to
see that for a rookie yeah Cooper Rush
it's over sorry you have decent
receivers you have Derek Henry
you should move the ball better than you did.
Yeah, the thing with Gabriel, you know, he kind of wasn't like,
I'll be telling my grandkids about him, but at least he was throwing like nine-yard passes
to players in spots where they could catch the ball, which sadly is passing for competence
in 2025.
It looked like he practices.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was a nice.
It's a tight end really enjoyed being able to catch the ball right in front of his helmet
like that.
I'm taking Justin Fields
I've just
the 0 and 26
I think is one of the craziest record
I just can't believe
that if you're rooting for Justin Fields
and you have this invisible
thing for the other team
where it's like man if they get to 21
the game's now over
I've never seen anything like that
but the thing is he's always
he'll always have two three plays
that kind of make you not want to give up on him yet
and he'll be like 38
and be like ah
See that scramble?
I don't know.
Right.
Yeah, the 40-yard run goes a long way
and not in keeping him out of the basement for this draft.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who did I'm with you?
All right.
I'm going to,
you know what?
I'm going to say Cam Ward right now.
I had it next.
Yeah.
So entering this week,
the Titans had three touchdowns after a month of football,
offensive touchdowns.
And really the only reason they won today
was because a fumble was kicked around
and some idiot,
dropped the ball.
the goal line. So maybe he'll get it together. But right now he's got to be high on this list.
The good news is Cam Ward versus Gino Smith. We got to bet on that game next week. That's
a Sunday coming up. Jesus. Yeah, yeah. He had a good last like 40 minutes of the game.
He actually started making some plays, but he was the first two plus hours was bad. I'm taking
Brissette with my next pick just because he played. He came in and immediately threw a pass that
that the tight end blew his knee out
trying to catch and not to
laugh at that, but it was just like
classic.
Shouldn't be helping the team doctor out for sure.
They didn't score for the moments he was in there, but it was
just, I got flashbacks to when he was the
Patriots quarterback last year.
Who do you have next? I have four,
five guys left on the board. It's getting interesting
here. Wow. All right. I have
Arch Manning because I don't think
that's a wrong podcast. I'll save that
for Tate on Tuesday.
is it just do I have to take
do I have to take Jackson Dart over Spencer Rattler at this point
because he won because I don't know
I didn't have Jackson DART in this spot interesting
all right I'm going to go Rattler even though he won
and he can't get to the Sean Kaiser's Torset trophy
that's all right he's won in 10 now
but he still has to be on this list
he's Kaiser's off the hook
gets to keep his record
I don't think Rattler's awful
okay well we're getting to the
he actually
can make some plays
yeah I think they're done
I don't trust him
that's it that's it for them
I have Bryce Young next
only because he's falling behind
over and over again
there's been four times this season
where there was a 10 minute stretch
of people online or Panther fans
being like that's probably it for Bryce Young
he's never going to start another NFL game
and then he just does
The Undertaker does the
all of a sudden he's up again and he's
rejuvenated but
the dolphins are really bad
and
yeah I don't really see it with Bryce
unfortunately you probably don't have this guy on the list
but I'm going to say Carson once
and maybe because I'm on my list
early in the morning and I wanted to be entertained
more but I think a good way to do this list
is how about this? If you find out
they're injured
are you okay with the backup coming in
And when Carson Wentz went out around halftime,
I'm like, oh, what does this Brosmer guy look like,
the backup for the Vikings,
a University of Minnesota quarterback
that no one cared about in the draft.
But so if your guy gets injured,
you say, let's see what you got.
Let's see what's next.
I think that's it.
And Carson Wentz, you know,
I don't want to cut him too much slack.
He's got Justin Jefferson.
He's got Addison.
He's got great receivers.
And should move the ball better against the Browns.
I know they won, but come on.
I don't know who the announcers were today,
because I was barely awake.
But at one point,
I forget who,
somebody who was above with the Eagles or something.
Who was about?
Oh, Jim Schwartz.
Yeah.
And he was like,
we were talking to Jim Schwartz this week.
And Jim Schwartz said,
they would have won the Super Bowl with Wentz.
That year he got hurt.
Like, that's how good he was.
They would have won the Super Bowl with him.
Do people actually believe this?
I don't know.
I mean, now is your dumb team.
Nick Falls left his body.
Right.
For three weeks.
I don't know if Wince would have done that.
I don't know what.
We'll never understand what happened with Nick Foles, but he did.
I would have liked my chances.
Jim Schwartz, a defensive guy?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think he was just being nice.
Okay.
Can I take Brasmer here?
Yeah.
If you want.
Did he have a, is there a first name for him?
I don't think he, they're not going to release it until like week nine.
He's just Brasmer.
Yeah, he's Brasmer.
Yeah, he's a great entrance.
I'm taking him next.
All right.
Two picks left.
all right i'm going to say anthony richardson just the side of him kind of got me sick
i know he i know he didn't do much or anything or hurt his team and he played for a winner
but uh i have to put him on that list i actually had a thought the the most fun outcome is the raiders
trading for him right oh that's like the perfect storm of everything right the raider gino they come
up with some fake injury for gino maybe he's hurt like he had a rotator cough we didn't realize
Yeah.
But we've acquired Anthony Richardson for fifth rounder.
Brady's going to mentor him.
Brady's going to get information from his coach meetings when he has coffees with coaches
and they give him the entire game plan for the week so he can say nothing when he does the
telecast.
I like that.
And get him on the cheap.
AR 15 going to the Raiders.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Gunslinger.
Al Davis would have loved this guy.
He's like Darrell Lamanica.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Tua and Gabriel are still on the board.
And Gabriel's not better than Tua.
As much as I would love to do it for the content,
I'd have to take Gabriel here and leave Tua to you as the last pick.
All right, let's maybe we just,
we button this up with,
Tua has to be drafted.
Yeah, because I have Kyler here too.
Honestly, are you sure Kyler's better than Tua at this point?
I mean, how many games like this are we going to see?
He has to do better than 220 and, yeah, like 25 yards rushing versus the worst team.
So you're taking Kyler, I'll take Tua.
Okay.
There you go.
Listen, that's a great case.
I will say this.
If they had announced during the game, if they had stopped the ball after he almost got
concussed by the shotgun snap that he didn't see, and they stopped it.
And they're like, congratulations to Carla Burry.
who had the shotgun snap
inexplicably hit his head
when he wasn't looking
for the 37th time
it's an NFL career high
like I actually would have believed that
yeah
that happens him eight times a year
any quarterback ever
more surprised by shotgun snaps
I like it
another guy doesn't practice
nobody knows the ball's coming down
yeah that was a Looney Tunes episode
that really was
drop balls with goal lines
snaps to the face mask.
Stupid team.
Do Arizona and Carolina play this year?
I'm going to look this up.
Because that's like our perfect match.
Oh, they already played.
Oh, yeah, that was the game.
I'm making my own point already because it already happened.
Because I was going to say the perfect game would be
Kyla Murray versus Bryce Young because they would take an early lead.
And then Bryce would make a late comeback.
And that's actually what happened in week two.
That's when Arizona's wins, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So your team was your bad QB fantasy draft.
You had Browning, Rush, Ward, Rattler, Wentz, Richardson, and Kyler.
Yeah.
And I had Gino Fields, Brissette, Bryce, Brasmer, Bob Brasmer.
Bobby Brasmer, yeah.
Bobby Brasper.
Brian Brasper.
Gabriel and Tua.
So I had a couple lefties.
I don't know if his team's bad.
Jackson Dart. Jackson Dark goes unscathed.
Good for you.
He should go and say it.
He's not bad.
I think he's better than everyone we just mentioned.
Would you rather have Jackson Dart than any of those guys?
It's fine.
Some of these teams are going to end up with two and three wins.
And I couldn't even tell you which is which.
There's some really bad ones.
So right now we have seven one-win teams and a winless team.
So we have eight teams that are one and four are on five.
All right.
Let's go to guest lines.
Week six, Eagles Giants.
We get to watch Jackson Jart.
By the way, you won the first two weeks.
I won the last three.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
People think I'm cheating again.
I'm back, baby.
Well, let me just say something,
because you're going to think I'm cheating,
but I got the Thursday night game exactly,
and I got the Sunday game,
the first two we go over, the Europe game.
So this is not how I would cheat.
I would cover it up a little better, but go ahead.
Okay.
Eagles at the Giants.
I have the Eagles by seven and a half.
That's it.
All right, we tie.
It is seven and a half.
Oh, okay.
See how you blocked me there?
Yeah, I looked at six and a half, seven and a half, and I tried it all three.
Six and a half felt too late.
Seven, I just felt like a seven and a half.
But I also wouldn't have been surprised if you had told me it was nine and a half
because the Thursday night with what we saw from the chance.
Well, you know, we have to be scared a little when we put them on a teaser because
is not going to lose two games in a row.
Right.
This is a seven point tease, I think.
Yeah, I'm with you.
So I think the move is you grab the Chiefs tomorrow,
seven pointees with them,
with the Eagles, and then a third team.
Oh, really?
All right.
Well, let's go through these,
because you might just see them clearly here.
London game,
I had no idea what to do with this.
Broncos, Jets.
By the way, poor London.
Why do we do this to them?
It's a war crime.
Some of these quarterbacks
we throw their way.
Is the goal for London,
we just make money
because they'll go watch anything?
Because if the goal is to try to get them
to love professional football
and become real fans of the sport,
we're sending them the worst teams
over and over again.
Are these teams you would never want to watch?
And there are these 21 to 17,
these shitty games?
Why don't we send like real people over there?
Real people?
Like send them like Josh Allen
versus Patrick Mahomes
or like just one game
where they would be like, whoa.
Yeah, if we're going to have three or four in London or whatever,
one of them needs to be decent, right?
We gave them the Vikings twice.
Yeah, if it was Patriots bills,
that would have been fine for Sunday morning.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I went for, I wrote down Broncos minus seven.
I think I might be low.
Jesus.
I picked two exactly and I can't gain any ground on you.
Seven?
Yeah.
Well, there's your teaser, right?
I don't know if I'm doing the, I'm 0-2 with the Euro games.
Today I did a Browns under, a Browns money line under with the Colts.
And I felt great about it.
And then the Browns didn't win.
The Browns Money Line under.
The Browns Money Line with the under and the Browns game with the Colts Money Line.
I did that as a parlay.
Well, why do you like the Browns so much?
Because the Vikings had no.
offensive line. I just thought their defense was going to win it by themselves.
This is different. Denver should win. Just a win? I mean, that, yeah.
I mean, coming off the high of winning in Philly and then losing to Justin Fields in London.
By the way, by 10 o'clock on Sunday, the Giants and the Jets could still have one win.
Oh, interesting. Like, we should really be monitoring this. This is, there's a, like, the Yankees
fell behind two nothing in this, in this, uh, Blue Jays series. We,
which I'm just stunned by
because I just thought
they were going to kill the boojays.
This could be in the running
for like a week from hell
for the New York sports.
The Yankees get bounced.
Embarrassing Thursday night game.
Embarrassing London game.
Yankees are gone.
Met season was a disaster.
Now everything's like riding on Knicks.
Do you think the midseason wasn't a disaster?
No, I hadn't even thought about it until you mentioned it.
Well, could we do the same thing with Philadelphia, though?
Eagles lose, Phillies lose game one, Penn State.
But the Eagles lose.
Penn State, the UCLA?
Yeah, that was bad.
Yeah.
Eagles fans like this, though.
They never want to be too happy.
Now they get to complain all week.
They like, what are we doing?
Why don't we use the receivers?
What's going on?
It's the Bull Bar effect.
They like being angry.
Yeah, they're upset.
Yeah, they like it.
They're in the right spot.
Sunday Marquis game.
I couldn't believe this was the Marquis game,
but I think this is what it should be.
Bucks?
in Tampa against the San Francisco 49ers,
I think is the best game.
Definitely.
I think Tom Brady will go to this game
and get all a bunch of insight.
Oh, he shouldn't be allowed.
He shouldn't be allowed.
He's going to find out so many things
that's going to help the Raiders.
This is the only reason the Raiders are only losing by 25
and not 50 because he's got the inside scoop.
A friend of Brady was saying that Gino would have 19 interceptions
if Brady wasn't in these meetings,
learning things.
How's bucks minus two and a half sound?
Oh, come on.
Yeah, it sounds like you're cheating
because now you're three for three
with exact lines.
That's what it sounds like.
I had three.
I thought the buck should be three.
I haven't seen anything.
Jesus.
Bucks minus two and a half.
I can't win.
Well, I'm throwing a real hitter right now.
I have some bad picks too coming up.
This sucks.
Why isn't this three?
I think it ends up at three, right?
Well, because we don't know if Purdy's playing or not.
And that's bad or good?
I don't know what's...
Well, Mac Jones is his one leg.
It seems to be enough.
I was proud of my guy, Mac Jones.
I thought he, you know, I always felt like there was, maybe we overrated him too much in the beginning.
But it also really felt like he was just broken by the experience of being on these last Belichick teams.
Yeah.
Right?
And, like, just lost his confidence.
Like a little Baker Mayfield does.
Baker, Baker Mayfield got waived.
And it's now, we're calling him the MVP.
So, I don't know.
you can lose your confidence.
I mean,
Shadhan must be just giddy.
I mean,
this is the guy he wanted
at three anyway, right?
Yeah.
Watchables.
Yep.
I only have one.
Jags, Seahawks
in Jacksonville.
Yeah.
Pretty good game.
Putting in the Tick-Tac zone.
I get the Jags minus one and a half.
I mean,
this is unprecedented
fucking cheating going on.
I swear in my kids.
Your kids.
Did I hit this?
You hit it.
You got four in a row.
Perfectly.
Yeah.
They should put this on the main page of YouTube right now.
Four for four.
This is nuts.
All right.
I had Seattle.
I thought Seattle would lay one.
I guess.
No, they had too many injuries.
This could change a lot depending on what goes on tomorrow.
I thought I was too low on that one.
Yeah, sure you did.
Look at this.
I mean, they're out on Witherspoon, Durant's out.
I like instead of rooting for history
as bummed out as this is the shithead
who dropped the ball at the goal line now
demarcato
he blacked out
that's what he shouldn't have said in the post-game press conference
I blacked out I don't remember what happened
have you guys ever scored a touchdown
that's what you should say
anybody here ever scored at 76 yard touchdown
yeah you don't understand what happens
you black out it's really exciting
I just blacked out
I didn't have enough sugar today.
I think you should say stroke.
I say, I had a stroke.
And now you're eligible for comeback player the year next year.
I'm going for an MRI.
I might have a stroke.
Fairly watchable is there five.
Man, now there's some pressure.
What does it matter?
Colts Cardinals in Indianapolis.
Well, I got this exact.
So if you get this, I'm pressing leave meeting,
and I'm walking the F out of here.
Go ahead.
I have it in the vacant.
So it's own.
Yep.
Colts, five and a half.
Wow.
Wow.
What a run.
No one's even gotten three in a row.
You have five?
This is the record for us.
You know what's funny?
I had four and a half before that Arizona loss.
That's funny.
It's just a parent corner.
Why do we have to hit the rest of these games?
This is unbelievable.
I'm like the Bishop and Caddysheck
David Weber effort
You're still up five, three
Because I have three
But that wasn't enough
You have five
I'm gonna lose this one
Go ahead
I don't even know that this is a fairly watchable
It might be a poop one
But uh,
Chargers at Miami
Yeah
A lot of pressure on this
I have the Chargers
minus two and a half
Okay, we tie on this
But neither was of us
close to the actual line, which is charges by four and a half.
Oh, they put that in the Vegas zone.
That's a lot.
One of these teams beats the shit out of the other.
I can't remember which it is, but they seem to play every year.
I don't know.
What's the weather going to be like in a week, do we know?
In Miami?
I think it'll be okay.
October 12th, Miami weather.
What's going to surprise you here?
78.
Yeah.
What is it?
It's going to be 83.
Oh, do you get that one too?
I'll give you an extra one for that.
It's going to be 84 on Saturday and 83 on Sunday.
I think that's a real advantage for them.
I think these teams get tired in the second half.
They're like baking in the sun.
Right.
Man, man, that makes me worried.
Wasn't it hot in Carolina today, too?
I mean, the dolphins were terrible, Dan.
Was it?
I don't know.
Probably.
All right.
Steelers, Browns.
My streak's over.
This is in Pittsburgh.
Right?
Yep.
The Steelers aren't that good.
But the Browns have a good defense.
So I'm going to make the Steelers five and a half.
You know what?
Starting next week, I'm going to drink a hot water and lemon by the gallon.
Did I hit it?
You hit it exactly.
I said six.
See, now people, nobody's going to believe this.
What do I have to swear on?
I don't know.
I mean, you're not a very good actor.
I'll say that.
So you got, I think you're being legit here.
I don't know what to say.
All right.
Six out of seven, exactly?
I'm feeling the schedule.
I've been watching a lot of football.
You should, I mean, this is going to be interesting to see if you make money this week.
I think I might hit this next one.
That's probably low, too, right?
wouldn't you be surprised if they lost that game?
That's what?
That should be higher.
The problem with the Browns is if they get a lead.
Yeah.
With their defense against Rogers.
Like if they were like up 9-0 or something, I could see them.
Pittsburgh was off, right?
And Cleveland's coming.
And Cleveland's coming from Europe.
But Cleveland's coming for Europe.
That's a huge rest advantage there.
It's a parlay game.
Rams Ravens.
So are we assuming no Lamar?
Because I did my guess with no Lamar.
give you a hint, not that you needed.
Yes, no Lamar, if you read into this line.
Okay.
Well, I'm probably too low anyway, because I said Rams minus three and a half.
Okay.
I said five, it's seven and a half.
Oh.
Yeah, they've had enough.
So I've hit six exactly, but I was off by two and off by four.
Yeah.
Wow, seven and a half is high.
It's kind of a kitchen sink game for the Ravens.
Like, do they, they'd be one and five heading into a,
buy like don't they you're doing flea flickers you're doing double passes you're doing everything
i'd like baltimore a lot more if the rams hadn't lost that stupid stupid ass game on thursday
you know that really was stupid i'm tired of i i i'm at my limit of the guys fumbling as they're
about to score a touchdown yeah this used to happen once a year and now i feel like it's
happened even if they get punched in the head yeah nobody no but yeah i mean i don't like
when you feel like you can't count on
anything like when it's bad play calling by
Sean McVeigh, right? We've got to be able to
count on the good coaches.
There's not too many bad coaches,
quarterback combos.
But that's a, I talked about this on Thursday's pod.
For some reason, he has a blind spot
on these fourth and ones, right?
Did you feel like that was going to be a good call by him?
Well, no.
I always feel like he messes those up.
He's got to be able to audible out, right?
When everybody is loading the box,
like you can never works.
the tail back up the middle.
So Pat Saints,
initially before the Buffalo game,
I had Tick-Tacks on for this,
but I think they have to be minus three in New Orleans.
So I went,
Pat's minus three in New Orleans.
It is Pat's minus three.
I said two and a half.
I don't know what to do anymore.
Seven?
That's seven exactly.
That might be the record.
This is ridiculous.
We've got to give you a parade here or something.
One, two.
That's a pretty easy one, though.
Three, four.
I guess.
I'm just a half point off everything.
Poop Fecta three games, including your team.
Dangerous game.
Cowboys at Carolina.
Yeah.
If it's going to be hot in Miami,
I'm guessing it's also going to be hot in Carolina.
I have Cowboys minus three and a half in Carolina.
Should we hire someone to do it?
What did you say?
Minus three and a half, Cowboys.
I can't believe this.
after a while, right?
Like, I can't just sit here and get insulted.
Is it three and a half?
It's three and a half.
I said three.
Eight.
Oh, my God.
Jacob.
Eight.
There's not much I could do here, Jacoby.
Eight, good a day.
The pats beat the bills.
And I'm on fire.
Let's just stop this now.
No, now I got to see if I get to 10.
Well, I don't know.
We'll see.
I already have the guesses.
Are you scared of that Carolina game?
Oh, yeah.
I was scared of watching the day.
The documentary, when we lost that game,
Michael Irvin had a good game like that.
Oh, yeah, you have the Steve Berloin?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, this has all the makings of you go up 10-0
and then all of a sudden it's 24 to 14 Panthers.
Yeah, we lost them last or two years ago.
We already lost this year.
Spiroides is saying it's a huge comeback.
Raiders Titans, I mean, it's in Vegas.
I have Raiders minus two.
I don't think I hit this one.
Oh, wow.
Well, you should lose like four for that.
I said four and it's six and a half.
What?
Let me recheck.
Yeah.
Six and a half.
You love Vegas on a teaser.
You love them.
No.
I just think, what did we say?
The home fit advantage is now, one and a half?
Yeah.
Do you think the Raiders are better than the Titans?
I mean, one of the things we didn't mention with the Raiders is they don't have Bowers.
Right.
Bowers clearly fucked up his knee after week one.
He tried to play the last two weeks.
He wasn't explosive at all.
They benched him in today's game.
And I just think without him, they don't.
That's like the only receiving weapon they have.
I don't know what to think because the Titans go down, you know, 14, 17 points every game.
So it just depends on if there's a Kylo Murray type to let him back in it.
last game is
Packers
Yep
Packers in Green Bay
Facing the
Bengals
That was way off on this
Go ahead
You're way off on this
Oh yeah
Yeah
Well Detroit was favored
In Cincinnati
By 10 and a half
And killed them
So the Packers
have to be favored by 13
Okay
I said 11
It's 14 and a half
Oof
Yeah
They can't screw around here.
Might have to break out the old 13-point teaser for that one.
Take it out in the closet.
You can do whatever you want this week.
I don't see how you lose any of these games.
You're all over everything.
Would you see the home teams today?
What was it?
They were three and nine outright for this week for week, week five.
Home teams today, just winning or losing.
Really?
We're three and nine.
Today, include the Rams too?
Including the Rams.
Yeah.
Yeah, that makes sense.
As I look at my ledger.
Yep.
Yeah.
Didn't make a lot of sense.
Okay.
Sunday night, Chiefs Lions, a great game.
Mm-hmm.
And I put it right in the Tick-Tac zone.
And I said, Chiefs minus one and a half.
All right.
Well, I've lost track now, but yes, you hit that exactly.
It's one and a half.
I thought Detroit would be favored by one.
But I guess you can't just keep making.
I might get to 10.
There's two Monday night games.
Because I have such a headache.
I feel like it's like 15.
But if you say nine.
Is this better or worse for you than losing the Cardinals bet when the guy you're about to go up 286?
This is DeMarcardo and the Mets blowing whatever it was.
I'm going to get no credit for this because everybody's going to think I cheated.
Well, yeah, they should.
The only way to know is he didn't cheat is me.
And I'm like wildly impressed by myself.
I've never done this well.
I don't think you would cheat this way.
I don't, I really don't think so.
I certainly would have to be a lunatic to cheat this way.
Well, yeah.
It's the freaking hot water.
It's doing it.
Let's go for 10 Monday night.
Bills at Atlanta.
Two games again.
How are they just going to keep doing this?
I don't mind it.
Hmm.
I went bills minus two and a half in Atlanta.
Oh, you lost this one.
I said five.
It's four and a half.
Oh, another one where I'm off.
Well, they're not going to lose.
I mean, wouldn't you be shocked if they lost this and tonight?
Everyone's bet in Buffalo here.
I think Atlanta's a pretty solid home team.
They had the week off.
I haven't seen Buffalo play a complete game yet,
and we're heading into the second week of October.
I don't know.
I think Atlanta could win this.
Okay.
I wouldn't feel awesome about betting Buffalo.
on the money line.
Last one, my last chance
to go
for 10, which would
easily be the record. It's Washington at
home on a Monday night
against the Bears
without Terry McLaren, but with
Daniels. And I
have Washington in the Vegas zone.
Is it in the Vegas zone? It is in the
Vegas zone. I have Washington
minus four and a half.
You did it.
You did it.
Ten!
There is a crazy...
Were there by weeks this week?
They would, thank God, there was two teams on by, Houston and Minnesota, because he would have had 11.
So I got 10 in the 15, I hit exactly.
Yeah.
That's never happened before.
I don't think six or seven has ever happened.
We're launching an investigation.
I don't know what to tell you.
You, Comey, you're all going down.
Wow.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
You know what it is?
There is.
Here is it is.
here's the secret right here you're not looking up it is yeah is that is that a urine specimen what
is that no it's water with lemon lemon yeah yeah good for you good job by you 12 7 and you lead
four weeks to 2 oh man I am rattled by that that was impressive I should have when I was going
for 10 I should have held my iPad right over the camera and then dropped it like demarcato
It doesn't dangle that.
We'll have to replay that.
Just lost it.
So, seven-point teaser or parlay type of things,
Rams, Ravens, if Lamar isn't playing,
that's pretty enticing.
Eagles, Giants, Broncos, Jets would be the three.
That's one of those, which team is blowing this for us?
I don't think it's complicated.
Philly and Denver.
Philly you have to do
Thursday night, Sunday morning
and you're done
Yeah
Don't even wake up for that game
You want to hit some parent corner
Yeah not really
I want to go sleep
I'm really mad about this
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You were in Brooklyn with your whole family. Was your family in Brooklyn or now?
No, they were home. And that's what goes on here. So I didn't really have much interaction with
them. But yeah, I was there for eight days. And I was like, you know, do I have to bring something
home? I guess I should bring something home. So I bring home a bunch of, yes, but Jimmy Kim will
sweatshirts and t-shirts and hats.
Not free and not cheap,
but I do get a 20% discount.
And I met with,
oh, thanks.
Like everyone's like,
yeah,
it's like,
you know,
I got 12 year old.
They were handing them out at the show.
Yeah,
I was like,
I paid for these as nice.
It was actually hard to get
because they were like selling out
so I had to put them to the side.
Like,
yeah,
12-year-old,
17-year-old wife.
And I was like thinking of myself,
what age do you stop bringing gifts home
for the kids?
after a business trip.
And I thought about it.
Probably like nine?
I would say nine.
Yeah.
I thought about it and I threw a lot of numbers around
and I wanted to hit it exact,
much like you did 10 times today,
whatever you did,
on the guest of lines.
And I figured that age is whatever age
they started getting everything
they fucking ever asked for in life
is the age.
Like, why do we have to bring back anything
to signify,
Of course, I missed you.
We FaceTime.
We called, but you also get whatever you want.
Like, you get Roblox bucks in every PlayStation game or app or Amazon gift cards or fishing poles or boogie boards or top golf out.
It adds up.
Is a Statue of Liberty Globe, a snow globe?
I'm certainly not getting anyone a Mets jersey from New York.
I feel like I did the okay thing.
It's a half-price Soto jersey?
Yeah, it's enough.
It's good.
Maybe it's, the Venn diagram is exactly the same age as Elf in the Shelf.
Whenever that stops, that's when you stop bringing gifts on to.
Okay, so two, three years past the Easter Bunny and I hope no kids are listening,
but the other guy, the big guy?
Yeah.
Big beard guy, John Walsh?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
John Walsh, yeah.
That's it.
I don't know, so no one's happy.
All right, so converse question or like parallel question.
How many years do you have to be with wherever you're dating or married,
to before you don't even think to bring them home something when you've been away for a week.
Same thing.
That's probably like three, four years.
Yeah, sure.
Because then if it's like after like 11 years and you bring them something,
they just assume like you cheated on them when you were away.
Yeah, it's suspicious.
Yeah.
It's like, why are you giving me this?
Right.
What are you up to?
Exactly.
It's like, I don't know.
I just wanted to get you a sweatshirt.
Why?
That's exactly right.
That's exactly right.
Now versus if you send them flowers just on a random Wednesday,
that's, to me, that's nicer
than, not that I would do that, but that's
nicer than, you know, bringing gifts home.
So I know. You don't get, what was your best,
was Billy Kim Olin, Brooklyn?
He was there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was good.
I mean, I just want, I just want,
we're going to have our cousin come on Parent Corner.
I think next week.
Yeah.
I got to see,
so little Billy, who's in the perfect Parent Corner age.
So funny.
I haven't seen you this delighted by anybody
in a long time.
because it's good because it's not your son so you're like you're the perfect amount of distance
but you're related to him and he's a complete shit stir and he was just shooting people of the water
gun and messing with 20 people in this like very tense office and you had the tongue in your cheek
you were just delighted people all dressed up it's the first show back this is in LA the first show
back and Billy knows right where the water gun is it goes right for his mother who turned right
shoots her in the ear.
Yeah, it's like block or charge.
I don't know what we call this,
but she walked right into it.
She's wearing a dress.
It's like the biggest show in the history of the show.
She's just firing a water gun in her.
So did you have any good Brooklyn moments?
Yeah, I mean, first of all, great crowds,
10,000 people over five days.
There were like 125,000 ticket request
and no shenanigans.
Like, I was worried, like, all takes us one or two,
whatever. So all big fans,
all big energy.
Highlights, I mean,
you could call me Grandma Sal instead of
Cousin Sal, because I had about 25 grandma slices of pizza while I was there, all different spots.
Did you weigh yourself before and after the trip or no?
I didn't. Tomorrow, though, I'm tripling up on the Zepound. So I have to have to get it in order.
It's going to be lemon and hot water the rest of the year until Christmas. We took our Aunt Chippy
on a tour of rats in New York City.
Oh, my God. Yeah, she didn't like it too much. And she was very upset with us.
But I think the highlight was Seth Myers was on the show and requested.
to meet me, and he is a big, big fan of ours.
Yeah, he's a long-time guest to Lions guy.
Yeah, and he's a big fan of mine and yours before the hot water with lemon fiasco.
Now he's just a fan of mine, but he was like, you've got to go after us.
Don't ever let him forget about that lemon thing.
That's crazy.
And here you are hitting 10.
Yeah, he texted me about it, and I reminded him that you were sharing a milkshake with
Rob Mills.
No one cares about that.
He said a share of vanilla milkshake.
Fine, still milk shake.
49-year-old man.
It sounded like it was a great week.
The Matt Damon thing was the highlight.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That was great.
The Matt Damon was really, really funny.
So mine, listen, I just, very few times while I use this platform just to complain, hoping for
change, but also just complaining.
I don't really like when people use platforms for that.
But, you know, my daughter plays college soccer.
She's a div three athlete.
and all these different leagues have these different systems
for streaming the games to the parents
because obviously the kids are from all over the place
and people still want to it.
There's nothing more fun than watching your kid play sports.
So we played a Neskak team.
Neskak is the one with Amherst and Williams
and Bowdoin all those ones.
And they're playing in Bowdoin and it's like the most,
but they have, it's called NSN Sports.
And they have this beautiful HD wide feed
and you could see the whole game
and the picture was perfect
and it was like
the game was on ESPN2
and we're like
my wife and I were like
this is amazing
like this is like
the best telecast
of a Zoe game ever
and then on Saturday
we go back to the app
that's for her league
the new Mac League
and it's called
Flow Sports
and it's this app
that when it works
for 20 straight minutes
it's a fucking miracle
and sometimes
sometimes it's just gone
and it says
technical difficulties
there'll be 20 minutes left in the game.
Sometimes it doesn't start.
You log on before the game and you're just like,
I just hope my daughter's games on.
I just, I really, and then it's like,
oh, there's the field.
So this one, they reached a new one on Saturday.
They've never done this one before.
I felt like Flow Sports had played all of the hits
for just how to fuck with parents of these players.
This one, there was just a test pattern
that was, it was a field of the game.
There's some three-year-old,
a wide shot of the field, one camera.
There's some three-year-old work in the camera.
They're just zooming in and out.
It's like if you give your son an iPhone and he's like,
ah, and then on top of it, the test pattern.
And every time the camera would move,
if somebody kicked the ball, the test pattern would come on.
So about 20 minutes in, we're like,
we might have a seizure.
Like, should we keep watching this?
Like, we have to watch it.
It's always game.
And it's just test pattern game, test pattern game, test pattern game.
Flow sports, it's like $10 a month.
I know it was big on wrestling.
I think it started with wrestling.
They have all these sports.
And there was, I Googled them and there was this big article about Flow sports.
They've so much money and resources and things are going great.
It's like, things aren't going great.
Your cameras suck.
Every telecast, it's a 50-50 whether I'm going to see my daughter's game or not.
I live 3,000 miles away.
Show the fucking game.
Figure it out.
Get better cameras.
Use your resources.
for all these colleges.
You have this great economic thing going on.
You have people like us
that are just away from our kids.
Like this is,
we'll pay any amount of money
to watch our kids play.
Figure out the fucking cameras
flow sports.
Like don't suck this much.
Wow.
That's my rant for parents.
I like it.
I like it.
They're done now.
It's really.
You crippled that,
you made it worse,
you know?
You crippled that company.
Full sports and Tylenol out.
You know why I am so upset
because I'm still recovering
from the seven seizures I had
from the 97,000 times
they flashed the test pattern.
Well, it helps you to guess the lines, obviously.
Yeah, that sucks.
Maybe all the seizures help.
Anyway, so, boy, how many games do you think they're doing simultaneously?
Not to stick up for them here, because I don't know what's going on, but do they, they probably have.
Oh, they have a hundreds going on.
Yeah, they have a million things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But at some point, like, if this is a business, like, the thing shouldn't flake out.
Oh, it's not a business anymore.
NSN sports.
The NECAC certainly has a good camera.
flow sports just get like have a meeting play this whole rant in the meeting at 10 o'clock and I really
want you to all look at each other in the conference room wow and figure the fuck out what you're
going to do long term with this this is a great product you have parents love watching their kids
play sports just figure it out it's true there's another game on Wednesday like like Zoe's playing
Wednesday am I going to be able to watch the game is it going to cut out like we'll never know
Oh, they're going to fly you out first class now to make sure you don't miss your right on the field.
Have the feed.
I don't need anything.
Just have the feed work.
I speak on behalf of all the parents out there.
And I know there's got to be so many more parents that, like, fucking hate flow sports.
How much is it?
10 a month?
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah.
If they say they're going to have it, they should have.
It's two months away from 2026.
Like, we should be, even I have a good camera for the podcast now.
Think how long that took.
Like, we're all getting better at this stuff.
Right.
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All right, so what do you have going this week?
Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, ring her game a show.
Yeah, Tuesday.
House is coming this weekend, by the way.
Oh, he is?
Oh, you're doing.
Yeah.
I don't know if you're coming for football.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, let's get that coming for football on Sunday.
You, uh, Tuesday with Tate.
Wow, Penn State and Texas suck.
We're going to talk college.
We're going to talk pro, talk baseball.
What's going on with Coach Belichick?
Wednesday with House and our nephew, Dubundo.
Friday with the bundo and high fits.
And then our award winning pregame show.
By the way, that was a great fit.
That was like a look, stand back.
And I'm like, what I'm doing in life is pretty cool.
I'm on with my buddies on this pregame show.
And I'm like, I'm going to bet the Vikings on that last drive plus 250.
Of course, I lost it all during the day.
But I'm going to bet them.
I like this.
This is still the Browns.
And we discussed it.
We're on the air talking about it.
And at one.
I was like, this is very cool.
So there you go.
Bring a pregame show.
Any baseball picks before we go?
Anything you're excited about?
How could you pick any of these games?
Do you like any of this?
I thought the Yankees were going to, honestly,
I thought they were going to kill Toronto.
I'm not saying that as a reverse jinx thing.
When Bacheck got scratched,
combined with Toronto's bullpen,
but the thing is,
They've never even had to go to the bullpen because they killed them in two games in a row.
Yeah.
Can I say something that's...
Detroit, Seattle is a good series, though.
I think that one's going to go seven.
I'm old manish with this thing because I don't like when the playoffs don't resemble the regular season.
And when these guys, I mean, Seattle had a freaking shutout going and still used five pitchers.
I know it ended up three, two.
They allowed one earn run.
Like, we need to see five pitchers when your guy is like throwing a gem, doing the best he's ever done, you know?
So anyway, but it's fun to have all the three.
Would you put like a, would you put like a number for how many you could use in the first seven innings or something?
Yeah, I think just, I don't know.
I guess you can't do that because of injury and everything.
But I also think all these games should air on flow sports.
Toronto Yankees on flow sports.
I just imagine getting a camera to Canada?
Oh, man.
Just flow sports.
Just do better.
I'm not, just do better.
Not asking for a home run.
Just, just get, hit a single to the opposite field.
It would be great.
All right, because this was a true pleasure today.
Congrats to my New England Patriots.
Congrats to me for the 10.
Thanks to Eduardo and Gahau as well.
You can have the rewatchables tomorrow night.
Jeremiah Johnson, we're doing that one.
You got TASC, prestige TV podcast.
We've been covering that every week.
Are you watching TASC?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm way behind, though.
Task is good.
And then my wife and I watched the first three episodes of the Ed Gein Netflix thing.
Really disturbing, like almost too disturbing.
I might not continue.
Really?
Oh, so maybe I don't have to add it to my...
I don't know if you do.
I'm on the fence.
I got John Candy.
I got all these other...
John Candy's coming, yeah.
Yeah, all right.
That one's coming too.
All right, Sal, good job by you.
Good job by you, buddy.
Thanks, everybody.
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