The Bill Simmons Podcast - Ep. 134: Week 7 Lines With Cousin Sal

Episode Date: October 17, 2016

HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons brings on Cousin Sal to discuss Tony Romo's looming return (6:00), the Falcons no-call (12:00), Cam Newton's early celebration (18:00), "What's Wrong With Aaron Rodgers?" Week (22:00), the up-and-down Lions (29:00), the shaky Bengals (34:00), Andrew Luck's midseason motto (36:00), the Bills' bounceback (44:00), Dan Quinn's demeanor (49:00), Mike McCarthy's odds to be the first coach fired (56:00), and the consistency of the Rams (58:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Don't forget about any given Wednesday. We return at 10 p.m. on HBO with six straight weeks of shows this week. Bob Costas, Al Michaels, and Vince Staples. They went to college together, I think. Don't forget to check out TheRinger.com and our ongoing and mammoth NBA preview. Don't forget about our podcast feeds on The Ringer Network and the Keep It In 1600 pre-debate, post-debate shows on Facebook and Twitter on Wednesday night. And thanks to everyone in Boston. Sal, I was with our cousin on Friday and Saturday night.

We raised a nice chunk of money for the Harvard Scholars at Risk. Thanks for everyone who showed up. Great to see everybody. Great to be back. Got to watch the Pats game with my dad. And actually, let's start. Start it out, Tate. All right.

So my dad, my dad has had the same electronic setup since 2004. He went to Twitter. When they moved into their house that, that they bought in Beacon Hill. They moved from, from the suburbs to Beacon Hill. And he goes to tweeter in 2004, like five months before the Red Sox won the world series and just gets the plasma gets this whole,

they set it up. It's like 12 and a half years. The setup is so I put it on Instagram. He's got a VCR plus up it's like 12 and a half years the setup is so i put it on instagram he's got a vcr plus and it's gigantic and it's got all these things he does it doesn't have a blu-ray his tv is like it's out of a time warp i realize my dad has become old i might have to call him at the end of this podcast this is your fault you need to take over 12 and a half years too long 12 and a half i'm like dad to you and everyone take over. 12 and a half years. It's too long. 12 and a half. A lot's happened to you

and everyone's status in 12 and a half years. You need to get in there. He won three World Series since he fixed his TVs. Send him to Puerto Rico for a weekend and just get in there

and take over. We're watching. Oh, I'm looking at it now. Wow. We're watching the Pats game on this old TV that he's like, I paid a lot of money for this TV.

I'm like, Dad, it paid off. You had it for 12 and a half years. So, yeah, we watched the Pats game and a deceiving win. I'm sure you didn't watch it. I did. What do you mean? Why are you sure I didn't watch it? Well, there were a lot of games going on.

Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. It was deceiving. Marvin Lewis really helped us out. I'm worried about this. I mean, Jamie Collins didn't play yesterday. You had one linebacker, and you're still winning. You're still creating safeties and everything else.

I know. Hightower played the game of his life. It's a true Belichick win, I think. The AFC is terrible. The Pats are the best team in the AFC, and I'm genuinely concerned about their defense. And then you look at Pittsburgh, which Roethlisberger's out. Roethlisberger with his annual injury to kill everybody's fantasy team

and gambling. They should have known. I think we talked about it last week. Well, I was going to say we're no closer to figuring out this league this week than any other. Terrible losses by the Steelers, Falcons, Broncos, Eagles, Raiders, and Packers. Everyone we had in either the first tier or the second tier looking to move up. And I don't know.

What do you take from this league? It was good for your team though. My team. I have your team ranked three. Like legitimate. Not like oh it's just like I think you have the third best team. You know what's funny? I can't even enjoy it because I have to defend Romo. I know. I come on this podcast every Monday for years and deal with

excruciating losses. And now I come in and I have to defend Romo. And just pulling up 10 minutes ago, I swear on my kids this is true, I pull into the lot and I have to show my ID because no one knows who the hell I am. And I pull out my Cowboys wallet to get my ID. And the security guard's like, yeah, Cowboys fan, all right. Gives me a fist bump. He's like, let's keep it rolling.

I said, yes, let's keep it rolling. Big surprise. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, the right thing don't don't don't mess up the mojo keep tacking there i'm like all right i'm late for this stupid podcast get my id back i don't know what i i thought he saw the yesterday lynn weinberger which is talking to who uh runs bsmg worked at the NFL network forever was just adamant like when Romo Southie is playing this is what our cousin Jimmy said cousin Jimmy this weekend we were at dinner at like midnight on Friday night because we landed late yeah and I was like you realize Romo's gonna lose his job if they win this weekend he's like no he won't like Jimmy did the

thing where he's just adamant right and uh he's like he's a member of the jones family he really is he's like the surrogate jones like there's no way they'll do that to him and he goes through lays out this whole case yeah i don't see it i don't they look so good yesterday you can't mess it up and plus if you bring we talked about this last week if you bring him in now and he's not 100 he gets hurt again, whatever, and then you have to bring Dak back. Well, that's what I worry about because I bring him in. First of all, he's being treated like he's Whitehurst.

This is ridiculous. He's like the eighth best quarterback in the league. Like Buddy Darin just pointed out, he's 3-1 last year, 12-3 the year before. This is a great quarterback who puts together remarkable records. And I wish I could enjoy Dak Prescott. He's doing a great quarterback who puts together you know remarkable records and i i wish i can enjoy dak prescott he's doing a great job we're used to our backups never coming through he's doing everything we need him to do but that shouldn't be the lead every every story with the cowboys we have a running back who's got four straight games of 130 yards or more he leads the

league in rushing by like 120 yards he's awesome, no one's ever going to convince me that Tony Romo would blow games that the defense held Cincinnati to 0 through 3 quarters, held Green Bay to 6 through 3 quarters in Lambeau. These are all winnable games. Dak Prescott's doing a great job, but they're all winnable

games. Also, he had an interception and two fumbles. He lost one fumble yesterday. Let's not get too crazy about what's going on here. Nice kid. Good kid. Good kid. A little tidbit today about how he had Kanye tickets last week. Decided to pass them up. It's in Sports Illustrated right now. Yeah. Didn't want to get home

after midnight. Screwed up his routine. Gave up Yee. Smart. It's going to be great for us down the stretch. Here's another thing. Not to throw water on your sails, but maybe a tiny splash. So you lost to the Cowboys by one. You barely beat the Skins. I mean, to the Giants.

You barely beat the Skins. You beat the Bears. You beat the Niners. Yeah, Romo never had such an easy first four. You beat the Bengals, who are two and four and poorly coached and not the same team that they used to be and then you beat the Packers who they look like something's wrong so you don't have a great win yet you haven't played any of the top five teams I'm making the Romo case it'd be like I got you I think if Romo had been healthy

your records still five and one right but you know We're an underdog in two of those games, I think. Is that it? Yeah. Yeah, I agree. 5-1. I like watching the offense. I think Dak's just, he fits with whatever's going on. Doing this without Dez is amazing.

Well, that's the other thing. How is Dez feeling? It's especially a killer just in Green Bay, like a place we can never win. We're snakebitten in Green Bay,, and they go and do it there. I have one more point that's getting obscured. I have not heard anybody make this yet. Jerry Jones, much maligned. Everyone makes fun of him.

He's a crazy person. Wildcard. Great draft. Yeah. 2016, one of the great drafts. He drafted probably the best running back that's been drafted in the top five since who? Tomlinson? Has there been a better top five running back?

No, I don't think so. That's pretty good. Then they steal Prescott, which was the best after the second round quarterback pick. Right. I don't know, since Brady? Right. Maybe there's somebody since then that I can't remember. The Michigan State.

Everyone's like, what are you doing? You passed on all these guys. He literally built the team for the next 12 years. And everybody's like, this guy's crazy. He thinks he's a GM. Give him a little credit here. Really nice draft. Give Jerry some dap.

All right. So you've got a bye week. Bye this week. You have Philly and Cleveland. That's nice. At Pittsburgh, Roethlisberger's probably back wearing like a 20-pound knee brace. They'll scrape his knee out. He might even play this week.

You'll see. Baltimore, Washington, Thursday night, Thanksgiving. I think that's Thanksgiving, right? No. At Minnesota on a Thursday night. At the Giants on a Sunday night. And then you finish with Tampa, Detroit, Philly, that looks like 11 or 12 wins.

I'm not going to go crazy, but all winnable games. If we can go to Green Bay and win. Could you get a one seed? I'm not falling into this trap. Could you get a one seed? True or false, you think you can get the one seed? Tell them to stop. True or false, you want the one seed?

Somebody go get that security guard and bring him in here. So I got PowerPool. I got top five. Vikings, Pats, Cowboys, Seahawks, Falcons. Isn't there just a top one? Isn't it just Patriots? I don't want to blow smoke up your ass, but. No, I don't think anybody has a perfect team this year.

The most consistent team. I was really impressed by the Falcons, and they got hosed on that PI. And that was a terrible call. And I'm going to make my annual plea. Yeah. That should be reviewable. Yeah, you think so? You should get one a game where you're like,

we thought there was PI there, let's review that. So everything's reviewable. You could use that. Just once. You get to review one PI a game. I think they just add that wrinkle because it just, that one was a killer. It was pass interference, but I have a problem with throwing the ball up in the middle of the field

and double coverage. And he did hook his arm. He hooked his arm for sure. It's fourth and ten, though. Yeah, I know, but it was like a Hail Mary at the 50-yard. Like, just looping and two defenders back there. It's like, all right, this is going to have to be a great Julio catch. And Sherman did it in such a way that the ref couldn't see it or whatever.

But, yeah, they got the fact that, you know ryan threw the interception earlier which which is what killed him so i have tier two chiefs broncos steelers bills so now the bills are the ninth best team they're back by any calculation then tier three is the raiders uh Skins, Cards, Packers, Bengals, and I don't know what to think of any of those teams. This Andy Reid coming off a bye week, which House jumped on Friday. You did on Cousins South Shore thing. How'd you do this week? Two and one this week, but I lost the best bet, though. Philly was the best bet.

Terrible. Not sure what happened there. Did you know about the Lane Johnson right tackle getting suspended thing? No, I knew about that, but Jordan Reid was out. I didn't know about jordan reed being out right that should have that would even it out a little bit cousins throwing the awful pick they went great but yeah that was a bad pick and uh well we'll discuss it later but carson wentz maybe maybe uh if they haven't completed the the statue that's going to replace rocky on the steps you're right maybe wait like yeah let's wait a little till we can catch a,

catch up on a, on a, on a pass rush up the middle. It's obvious to see, but can you remember not being able to get to 10 teams that you felt good about? I don't ever remember a season where I couldn't get to 10. I know.

I don't, I do not feel good about the Raiders, Washington, Arizona, green Bay or Cincy. And if you remember three weeks ago, I said to you, the AFC South sucks. We should bet on Tennessee plus 900.

Yeah. And they might win the AFC South. What is it now? It's like plus 200 now. Just another sloppy game, and you called it. Like, Collinsworth has to sell it. Just a sloppy, bad Sunday night game. Yeah, I have Michaels on my show tomorrow.

I'm going to ask him in the dressing room whether we need to have an intervention with collinsworth it's like brock osweiler what he's done these last two drives i'm like the colts defense is terrible lamar miller broke 11 tackles for a touchdown oh that jalen strong bad that's the best of his career right there the colts were so bad. They're so poorly coached. And that game was. Let's just say, like, when you have the ball with 220 left, up a score, the other team has two timeouts. You can't go backwards.

You have to be more inventive. I know Frank Gore had a good game, but it can't be a wedge up the middle every time. You have to get a first down or you're going to lose the game. I think, honestly, that's what you have to instill in your players it's just gonna it's too much biding your own time and figuring out like you you're gonna you're gonna win just just punting the ball it's not gonna happen collinsworth's like they figured out this o-line left sides run block right sides pass block i'm like they haven't figured out anything these teams suck these are two 5 and 11 teams that are fortunate enough to be in a good division i flew back

on uh on virgin america last night and it was a 545 flight i got to watch basically the second half of your game and then the entire colts texans game good for you and i was just thinking and of course not the dodgers game because they didn't have fs1 which was you know following that on twitter but uh god football is just not good right now it's just not it's just not good to watch colts texans was an awful awful football game it was bad and i don't begrudge anyone for making money this is a brutal game and make as much as you want and oswe And Osweiler bothers me. Four years, $72 million. Is there a guy just dropped into a better situation?

Four years, $72 million. You're in a crap division. You're the first place team in a crap division. You have Hopkins and Fuller, dynamite receivers. Hopkins is bummed. You have a line that protects you and he still barely or can't get it done. I'm not an Osweiler fan. He, Lombardi and I were texting

during the game yesterday and I was like, can you believe they gave Osweiler $72 million? And like immediately he texts back, it's worse than the Lufthansa heist. Whatever, Lufthansa? Lufthansa.

Lufthansa heist. Everything relates back to Goodfellas. It is amazing 72 million bucks for brock osweiler and somehow he knocked the patriots out of the one seed last year but then you know he did look good the last couple drives even though the cold stays terrible on it and then it makes me think like maybe he just needs three hours to warm up is that it if you can just get through the first three hours with him like hour hour four, the guy is really good. Right, yeah, yeah. Maybe the blood needs to, he's so tall,

it needs to settle in his body. Hey, actually, you know what? Let's do our Don Julio shot of the week. All right, Thursday night. Don Julio, the world's original handcrafted tequila with multiple unique tequilas, including Don Julio 1942, the best luxury tequila you'll ever drink. And every week we do a shot of the week,

which can either be Monday night or Thursday night. I'm dominating Don Julio. I'm terrible. I think I'm one in four. You don't like drinking. I love drinking. I don't like these night games. That's what I don't like.

You've never been a huge alcohol guy and I love alcohol. So I'm dominating the Don Julio shot of the week. So we can pick between Monday night, which is Fitzpatrick, the current Jets quarterback, against Carson Palmer, next year's Jets quarterback. Oh, wow. Yeah, I'm predicting it now. What's that line now?

Seven and a half. Arizona favored by seven and a half. I'm staying away from that, going to Thursday night, I think. All right. Well, the Thursday night game. Who do you like on the Monday night, just out of curiosity? from that going to thursday night i think all right well the thursday night game well i again who do you like on the monday night just out of curiosity i'm gonna i'm gonna use my don julio shot for the jets i think it's too many points i'm not settled on arizona and that's that's good

news for arizona i can't take fitzpatrick on the road with uh mediocre receivers all right i'm gonna move my don julio shot of the week to thursday thursday night which why don't you give me you didn't send me your lines again i have them right here all right you yeah tate you have to monitor this better because it's too much cheating going it's blatant tate's in tate's in a personal hell right now yes what happened oh yeah the panthers are one and five the panthers have to go nine and one to make the playoffs so let me ask you something the two by weight teams this week are the cowboys and the panthers one's five and one the other is one and five when romo went down the preseason if i said to you i'm like simmons one of these teams

going to be five and one the other is going to be one and five how much of your hbl salary would you bet that it would be the cowboys like how many given wednesdays would you at least 30 episodes 30 given wednesdays you would yeah yeah you know we had. 30 given Wednesdays, you would? Yeah. Yeah. You know, we had our, that wins poll we do every year, which is one of the great things ever invented. Mike Tolan had the first pick and took the Panthers. Smart. And they're one in five.

And none of us were like, whoa, terrible pick. We were like, whoa, nice pick. They have 15 wins. You have to figure they'll have 10 or 11, right, Tate? Tate thinks they should fire Ron Rivera. He's upset with the defense and just everything. Defense is so bad. But Tate's a very passionate young man. It's a defensive coach.

How is defense so bad? It is incredible how bad they are. It can't all be Josh Norman, though, right? You heard about their defensive schemes, and it put less pressure on the cornerbacks and the safeties, and you just don't see it at all this year so carolina has given up 22 that first game they gave up 27 to the niners that should have been our red flag remember when they couldn't close that niners game we had all that money on the panthers right uh they gave up 22 to the vik. They gave up 48 to the Falcons, 17 to that crap Bucs team,

and then 41 to the Saints. That is not good. Really bad. But is there anything funnier than Cam Newton seeing him celebrate and then just deadpan with that stupid hat in the press conference afterwards? He can't. I'm okay with almost every kind of celebration, but I think you have to know where you are at the time the panthers score to go down by two

there's two minutes left and cam is thinking about running into the tunnel doing some kind of celebration and realizes quickly realizes like oh no we have to make this two-point conversion this might be more important hey you have the two-point version and you left drew breeze two minutes left to kick a field goal like they're gonna you're gonna lose this game try to focus here you know um yesterday in the pats bangles game uh vante's perfect went at bennett's knees from behind and the whole past team was furious so then like a little bit later pac-man went at gronk's feet when he wasn't looking so he started yelling at all them then perfect comes over because he's a complete jackass. How could you see all this on your father's RCA TV?

I could barely, barely see it through the plasma. So Gronk gets a penalty and knocks us backwards when we were about to clinch the game. And he went over and Belichick just laid into him, and he's very apologetic after the game. And you look at that compared to ben mcadoo with odell oh yeah odell takes his helmet off like that literally could have cost him the game sure 15 yards on the kickoff yeah he's fornicating with the kicking net like it's hilarious it just doesn't happen with belichick or mike tomlin or yeah the the top coaches that doesn't happen

it should be enough it should be enough that you're streaking down the giant stadium, the sideline, where 70,000 people are cheering for you. That should be enough. Or just do the soccer celebration of skidding to the corner or something. As Weinberger said this morning, though, he is incredible. Who are we talking about? Odell. Odell, yeah.

I really have to go back to Jerry Rice. The last receiver that I can remember just takes a slant and he's just gone. Who has done that since him? No, I don't know. There's been guys who go straight line deep, but not somebody that can just take a 10-yard pass and he's already at full speed and he's just gone. You feel like you're watching Alabama against Troy State.

Yeah. It's just like there's so much separation. He's incredible he's single-handedly won that game for this yeah all right thursday night chicago at green bay oh welcome though what's wrong with aaron rogers week oh right that's another one it's official today i don't know what lots of shows with with a white guy and a black guy looking at each other with a girl in between them where they ask each other what's wrong with Aaron Rodgers. Over and over again. I love the Sharp, the promos there for what's his name, Bayless and Sharp.

So crazy. We should do a segment every episode where we just imitate one of those shows for one minute. Okay. I thought we were doing that. Oh, okay. Sorry. Yeah, we actually are. Sal. I thought we were doing that. Oh, okay. Sorry. Yeah, we actually are. Sal, I'm going to tell you something.

Go ahead. Aaron Rodgers is done. What? Aaron Rodgers is done. We've seen the best of him. He doesn't take this seriously anymore. He started dating celebrities. He does not care.

Aaron Rodgers will not be in Green Bay in two years. I disagree disagree i think he's going to be there for the next 25 years i think you're watching the games wrong your father's got a television you need to upgrade that tv aaron rogers still the best one out there we'll be back after this all right i have packers by seven all right you went a little low i said eight and a half. It's nine. Oh, I like the Bears. That's going to be my Don Julio shot of the week. Chicago. You're taking Chicago.

I think Green Bay stinks. I don't know what happened. That Detroit game, I thought they figured out the offense. They really did. They almost still blew that game, but at least the offense was – but he does look lost, Roger, sometimes. Very strange. The yards per attempt is always a good one to look at.

And it's like, he's like six per attempt. Yesterday at one point he had like 19 attempts for 90 yards or something. And he's really, he just can't have it. He's not getting big plays anymore. Kevin Clark had an interesting theory that I hope I don't step on. I hope he's not going to write about this this week. We're in the ringer slack talking about NFL stuff. And he was like, he's lost enough athleticism that it's made a huge difference.

Really? It's a year 12. He's not those hocus pocus crazy athletic plays that he used to make. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He lost like 11% of his – it's almost like an NBA player who used to be above the rim early in his career. And then you come down a little bit and suddenly you're not making those plays. And conversely, Eddie Lacy has somehow gained 35 pounds in six weeks. He's gained all the weight.

Right? Doesn't it seem like it? Like he didn't even have terrible stats. I think he had like 65 yards on 17 carries but hey before we get to the sunday games oh what do you think is wrong with aaron rogers by the way nothing no i don't know i just told you in my sterling sharp voice i don't know i think they'll bounce back they'll be fine they'll be a 10 win team i had seven options for what's wrong with aaron rogers week you have to pick one of these options if you're a talking head. Something is

definitely wrong with Aaron Rodgers. That's one. Relax. You got to do that where you got to imitate the relax. That's number two. It's all Mike McCarthy's fault. That's number three. Bad system. Aaron Rodgers is rebelling against this system.

Lousy supporting cast. Okay. Jordan Rodgers is rebelling against this system. Lousy supporting cast. Okay. Jordan Rodgers, the bachelor, the bachelorette guy. Oh, that threw off his mojo. Yeah, threw off his game. He's been mad about it all year and lost his focus. Olivia Munn, we've already mentioned her. And then seven, the race card.

Aaron Rodgers was never that good. If Aaron Rodgers was black, Everybody would be going after him right now Somebody's going to say that this week I guarantee it I'm going to say relax I don't think he looks the same Before we get to the Sunday game Sal, remember that time we watched an entire Sunday

Of football Buffalo Wild Wings outside of Dallas For a Cowboys game, it was fantastic So I did a Buffalo Wild Wings Read on Friday for House, and he started, what would you describe the sounds he made, Tate? He was salivating. It was like heavy breathing. It was like.

Really? Almost like listening to a serial killer stalk a victim. We may have to go there. I haven't eaten meat. Oh, sauces. But it was all genuine. Have you done wings with House for House Eats? It needs to happen.

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Buffalo Wild Wings Wings Beer Sports they do it for us and they do it for Joe House because they're football fans alright Sunday is an effed up day for football watching there's a London game then there is like 11 early games. No, I know.

And then there's two late games. There's 10 early games. No, there's three late. No, I know. I was all over this. There's eight early games and three late afternoon. I think there's two late afternoon. I think Atlanta, San Diego, Atlanta is a late afternoon.

Did they move that to late afternoon? I think so. Oh, well, that would be afternoon. Did they move that to late afternoon? I think so. Oh, well, that would be good. All right. It's still too much. Eight and three is too crazy with the London game. And Steelers-Pats was going to be one of the games of the year, and now Landry Jones.

Yeah. So, all right, where do you want to start? We'll start with London? I am right. Yeah, let's start with London. Giants, technically at the Rams, but in London. The British people will love Odell Beckham. Oh, sure.

They'll like all that stuff. I have the Giants favored. Oh, see, I didn't realize it was London. Can I redo my guess? Go ahead, Shane. Whatever you want to do. I'll do Giants by three and a half. Okay.

I looked at this for a solid two minutes. That's 120 seconds, and I couldn't figure out the sign. And I said, and I thought to myself, what the hell am I doing? This is a stupid game. Just pick something. And I said, pick them, and it's Giants by three. Both three and three teams, so you'll get that one. You were closer.

I don't know. You know, I do. I keep track. I'm going to mail you this by the way because this is turning into a good document I keep track of

legitimate wins legitimate losses and then the either or games the Giants do not have a legitimate win this year they've played four either or games and they lost twice

so at least the Rams have had a legitimate win I don't think the Giants have a legitimate fan I honestly don't. I watch with Giants fans, my friend Nick, our friend Brad, and they go, I mean, it is back and forth

between how much they hate Eli Manning and Nassib should be in, and Beckham's best days are behind him, and then he breaks one free down the sidelines or on his slant. Beckham's the greatest in the world. Why the fuck is he taking his helmet off? Get him out of there.

He shouldn't play again. He should never play again. It's crazy watching with giants fans could you tell uh could you tell them what you did to brad with lenny dykstra yesterday i had a facebook live check-in after the early games i had lenny dykstra carola and uh brad were with me what could go wrong with those three i'm like waiting i'm just begging to get fired right putting them on a live thing yeah lenny and brad but anyway so you know we talk about lenny dykstra and i'm like waiting. I'm just begging to get fired, right? Putting them on a live thing. Yeah. Lenny and Brad. But anyway, so, you know, we talk about Lenny Dykstra. And I'm like, Lenny, you have your book here.

You talk about your time in jail and everything. And Brad here, who's been in jail, he said all that jail stuff was bullshit that you mentioned. And Brad's like, I did not say that. I never would say that. Tell him I didn't say that. And Dykstra's looking at him. He doesn't know what to think about this. He doesn't know who to be mad at.

We're in Corolla's warehouse with all these million-dollar cars. He spent the first half hour trying to think of how he's going to steal these cars without Corolla finding out. He's like, well, let me tell you something. I know you're not. I know you didn't say it. Because if you've been in jail, you would know that that's how it goes down. He's like, I did. I did. I've been in jail, you would know that that's how it goes down. He's like, I did.

I did. I've been in jail. I've been beat up just like you by y'all. Oh God. It's like, all right, this football podcast has turned into something else. That's a,

that's a discussion. You're not going to get very often on Facebook life. Yeah. People identify with each other. I get you beaten up in jail. We'll be back after this. A cousin. South.

Sure thing. All right. Rest of the Sunday slate. I get you beaten up in jail. We'll be back after this at Cousin Sal's Sure Thing. All right. Rest of the Sunday slate. Let's do Steelers-Pats. Let's just get it over with. We're going to the late afternoon game? I thought Steelers-Pats is early. No, you're all over the place here.

I am? 125. That's late. Oh, late. Oh, so I read this wrong. My apologies. That's all right. I'm only the host. You still want to do that?

No, let's do your thing. Washington at Detroit. What do we make of this Washington team? They keep pulling wins out of their buttholes. Really good without Jordan Reed. I didn't expect that at all. It was very strange. Didn't expect it either.

I didn't realize how many concussions he had. Yeah. That's not great. That's a lot. So I had the Native Americans by one and a half in Detroit. Oh, you went the other way. I said Detroit by two and a half. Detroit is favored by one and a half, so I get that.

So Detroit, much like the Giants, six games so far. Four of them could have gone either way. They beat the Colts, lost last second in the titans beat the eagles last second beat the rams last second lost to the packers and the bears so they might be that team that's like it's seems like they're kind of exciting but if you've actually watched them it's not exciting we have a big parlay maybe the only one where you have a chance of winning with uh the lions the browns and the niners not making the playoffs and we when do we have to get worried about the lions soon well i was trying to make a case for them to get a wild card and i don't could it be nine wins could you get one with nine wins possibly i think you were right i

think you said that last week. But they play like Washington, Houston, and then two of three weeks against Minnesota. I don't see it. They have Z-Zenner carrying the load in the backfield. I don't think it's going to happen. They have two Minnesota games left, and that New Orleans, and that the Giants,

and that Dallas, and a second Green Bay. Yeah, I don't think they're making a lot. It feels like 8-8. Not a great team to bet against, though. say that uh minnesota at philly i have the vikes by three and a half and i think i hit it exact no i hit it exact by three okay but it might go up by then that that feels like the carson wentz four interception game that every, every rookie QB has a bad game in like the first eight. Yeah. Even Brady had one, I think.

Yeah. There's just one where it's just everything goes wrong and then everybody's like, Oh, were we right about this guy? He's due for one. That might be the game. They're in trouble against this Vikings defense. It seems to score every week. No, this is going to be an interesting game.

Yeah. If we had to do our fantasy over again, how many, that would be like a $5 defense, right? Yeah, oh, for sure. Maybe like six? Yeah, yeah, why not? Cleveland, and by the way, we should do the fantasy year over again. Are you 1-5? I'm 6-0.

Nice to meet you. Are you 1-5 in our league? I hate fantasy football so much. This week, I literally had the choice of eli manning and james white or russell wilson and tj yeldon and of course i went with russell wilson and tj yeldon it was a 30 point swing was it really yeah wow eli and white had 47 points combined or something and tj and why do you have to do that combination though can you just go one and the Yeah. Wow. Eli and White had 47 points combined or something, and TJ. Why do you have to do that combination, though?

Couldn't you just go one and the other? Well, I just, those are the two. Those are my two. I couldn't decide what to do, and I went with those two. Yeah. Just every week. Here's what bothered me. All week, I've been praising Romo.

He's got to come back. He's the man. It's me against the world. And then I saw Simmons, after bad-mouthing him all week, picks up Tony Romo on the way. Oh, I just did that for a trade bait you did yeah well now i know he's never starting again it was zero dollars i thought it was more disturbing i got it for zero dollars they should have to pay you yeah i hate fantasy football i just fucking hate it oh it's the worst cleveland it's speaking of the worst Cleveland at Cincinnati I can't even

I know I say this every year but I just can't figure out what's good about it like I I really feel bad about myself I really felt bad

about myself yesterday like my self-esteem was lowered the draft is fun Tate was there draft is fun and then it's downhill from there

I'm drafting like seven quarterbacks next year I'm just gonna cock block all the quarterbacks. Stay away from Romo. I have Ezekiel Elliott and Gronk, and I lost this week. Right. Yeah.

Every week, Ezekiel Elliott. He got outscored by Kristen Michael this week, who was going against Dan Meshack, who got two Odell Beckham touchdowns in the last five minutes for like 30 points. And then the Drew Brees 37-point game. Our friend Hench is like, if Simmons can get his act together,

his team could be good. My team is good. I don't know what that means. I got Terrell Pryor. Yeah. But this is why I hate fantasy football. Kristen Michael, who does nothing the whole game and gets a nine-yard TD and a one-yard TD,

outscores Elliott, who completely annihilated the Packers. The whole game. He controlled it. He was one of the three most important players in the entire league yesterday and got outscored by Kristen Michaels. All right. Fuck fantasy football.

What do you have for Cincinnati-Cleveland? I have Cincy by eight, and I like Cleveland. Who gets this? See, I have to do all this math because you didn't send me. I said ten and a half. Yeah. And it's nine and a half. Yeah. And it's nine and a half. So I get it, right?

So you get that, yeah. Congratulations. Well, you want to go Green Bay-Cincinnati money line parlay. Not even worried about it. I'm not betting on Cincinnati this year. Really? No. Let me ask you, I mean, who's winning that division

if Roethlisberger's out for any significant time? Pittsburgh. Still? Pittsburgh's fine. Pittsburgh. Still? Pittsburgh's fine. Yeah. I think Cincinnati could make some noise, though. I don't think since he's well-coached. Cleveland, Washington at the Giants,

Buffalo at Baltimore. I have a lot of respect for Marvin Lewis, and I just don't think they're well-coached. You don't have a lot of respect for him. Well, if he had coached a game yesterday, I think they would have beaten the Pats. Don't you think you go into a game saying when we play the patriots we have to score 30 points to win they punt that means going on fourth and what was the fourth and two it was fourth and fourth and one on the pats 49 and they punted and the guy kicked it to like the 20 they

gained 28 yards of field goal position and i'm sitting there going please don't go for it we have one linebacker. And then later on, they did this. It was third and goal from the one. They did the awful fade pattern, AJ Green, that works one out of ten times. And then ran Bernard right into the line. It was just bad coaching. We've discussed this before.

If you ever have a doubt on fourth and one for midfield, do a quick poll of the opposing fans what they want and then go the other way yeah all of us want every hatred fan all of us want you to punt please because the odds are the guy's gonna kick in the end zone right i mean if you have an awesome punter i can see it but there's like three good punters gronk is gonna break out eventually you have to score points when you when you have the ball you have to score we should have been down 10 points in that game and all of a sudden we were up 10 or whatever. The safety was the big play, though.

That was Dalton's off on that play. Indianapolis to Tennessee. Here we go. Oh, God. When is the AFC South going to end? Do you know that all four AFC South teams have a negative point differential? Is that what it is? Yeah.

All four of them. The Titans lead the division. They're like minus 20. Unbelievable. It's really bad. It's such a bad division. Titans, Colts, I have... That's what it is, right? Colts and Titans. Tate just...

What is that, Tate? Tate got bored. Tate's listening to another podcast. Tate was just... Tate just listening to another podcast. Tate was just... Tate just audible that. I have Titans by two over the Colts. And I'm probably wrong, but I don't care. We both had two. It's two and a half.

Titans, man. Can we do this? It's coming on. We take you now to the comments of Andrew the Giant Luck. Andrew, a big, big division game, AFC South. Against your opponent, Marcus Mariota at the Tennessee State Fairground. Your thoughts? It's been a frustrating year.

There's no question. But our coach has a saying that resonates with all of us. It's, so what, now what? And what that means is so what, now what? It's really what that's trying to say. And we're two and four. We're not happy with where we are. But we can get right back on the horse today.

We beat the Titans, and we still think we're a division champ. All right. I like that. Thank you for your comments. We look forward to the matchup. You're welcome. Andrew, the giant luck is back. So stupid.

I like the Titans in this division. I know you do. I still haven't found the odds for them. I don't know. Although I will say, Houston being 4-2 is outrageous. But they are. I know. They have four wins, and they still get to play.

And they could go on the road and lose by four touchdowns every time. They get to play Jacksonville twice. They get Indy again. They get Tennessee again. They get San Diego. They get Detroit. My God twice. They get Indy again. They get Tennessee again. They get San Diego. They get Detroit. My God. I hate spending time talking about this division, but it is compelling.

Texans minus 160. 4-2, they're only minus 160. Titans, you said they were 9-1 a couple weeks ago? When I brought it up, they were plus 900. Plus 450 now. Colts 5-1. Jags 6-1. The Jags might not be bad.

They actually have good guys. We might want to just take the other three teams. Root against the Texans. I think we stay away from everyone. Yeah, you're right. I don't even want to deal with it. Can we quickly talk about the 5-4 Club? Sure.

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leave again tonight they're gonna keep leaving they're just repeatedly gonna pack up the brother and bloodline they just keep coming back and leaving i have the jets favored by one yeah you're gonna get this i said jets by three that was dumb of me it's a pick them i thought uh so baltimore can't win that division, Suggs is out now with a torn bicep. Suggs. Three and three. Another sketchy injury for Suggs. Yeah, but at least he's a clubhouse leader. Suggs has an injured pituitary gland.

I thought yesterday the Ravens were missing five guys. Did you see that? Yeah. I think I switched my pick on ZFL to the Giants. Did you? But I had the Ravens in the Callaway par three, and then all of a sudden five Ravens started. They could have won the game.

I think they're just too old to last the season now. I think it's tough. They're like what Lombardi calls a 55-minute team. Right. Those last five, I was coming to get them. What else? Okay. Are we still early games?

Yeah. We'll get through them oakland at jacksonville this is a nice game these were two teams that i actually um i i i think are a little um in the right situations i feel confident about picking them i like the raiders on the road because i think for whatever reason they're a little fearless on the road. And the Jags, I don't know. They have guys who can do stuff. I had the Raiders by three. I was way off on this one, too.

I may have to double check this because I still can't believe it. I said Raiders by four. It's Jacksonville by one and a half. Yeah, and it is. Look at that. How is that? The gambling public does not believe in the Raiders. But you just said I like the Raiders on the said, I like the Raiders on the road.

Everybody likes the Raiders on the road. Vegas loved them in the beginning of the year, and now they turned on them. I mean, were the Chiefs favored by the end of that game, Estre? Yeah, by two and a half. Crazy. New Orleans at Kansas City, aforementioned Chiefs. I had the Chiefs by five and a half.

You get it. I said five, and it's six and a half. What do you have for a Chiefs by 5.5. You get it. I said 5, and it's 6.5. What do you have for a Chiefs-AFC West line? Yeah, now you're talking. Because that is unbelievable with his buys, 16-2 after buys. Like if it was a 32-week regular season, he'd be Belichick, that Andy Reid. 2-1 only of Chiefs. Chiefs are 3-2.

They have... Houston comes back this week, which... You know, he's... People pay a lot of attention to certain defensive stars and not a lot of attention to other ones, but he's one of the six best defensive players in the league. Charles is back in some respect respect doesn't even need to

get 20 carries and spencer they have a nice little three-headed thing so they need i would say eight wins to win the division they need to get to 11 and five eight oh eight more to win the division yeah so their home games left are new or, Jacksonville, Tampa, Oakland, Tennessee, and Denver. Wow. That feels like 6-1. And then their road games are Oakland, Indy, Carolina, Denver, Atlanta, which is tough, and then San Diego to end the season.

But I think they can get to 11 wins. So then the question is, can Denver get to 11 wins? And the Chiefs, they have not played yet. So they'll probably split. They haven't played each other. They'll probably split. But anyway, I think 2-1 is pretty good for them. I like them. They were my Super Bowl champs.

They're not playing like it, but good win yesterday. They did the old throw everyone off the scent game when they just stunk on that Sunday night against Pittsburgh. Yeah. You just don't know. These night games, I think the night game should be just stunk on that Sunday night against Pittsburgh. Yeah. You just don't know what these night games. I think the night game should be worth a third. Honestly,

I think it's time. It's time to wait. These like Denver played last week at night. Yeah. Simeon through 50 passes. They had like 90 penalty yards. These Thursday games are so such garbage. They need to start waiting.

Some of the, a win against the Brown should be a third of a win. Like we need to, we need to start putting tabs on stuff. I was really excited because last week I said to you that the San Diego reminded me of the 1980 Pat season where we lost every conceivable way. And I was like, we even lost a game on a Hail Mary.

That's the only thing the Chargers haven't done yet. And then there was a Hail Mary situation at the end. Chargers gave up the outside kick. It was 21-13. They wanted to lose so bad. Simeon's doing the Hail Mary, and he did this chicken wing Hail Mary. It went like 30 yards.

They should have brought John Elway in to throw it. Yeah. That's weird. Yeah, you don't see that. You'll see them underthrow the Hail Mary, but you don't see it out of the end zone too much. No, he underthrew it. Yeah, right.

Buffalo at Miami. Last early game. I promise. So you made Miami one of your sure thing picks. I did. Scary. They always play a good team well at home when they look down and out. I wasn't very confident in it.

I certainly didn't think they'd win the game. But that was a – what happened to Pittsburgh that game? I don't know. It just had all the makings of the Steelers putting up 40 and should they bench Tannehill or not. I didn't see that one coming at all. Well, when you can protect him, he's not bad, Tannehill. He doesn't get sacked six times the game.

Who's the guy, Ajay? Joe Ajay? Yeah, over 200 yards. Who has him in our fantasy league? I'm not sure. This is yet another reason why fantasy football is just the worst. Somebody picked him up for like a buck. He'll be okay.

200 yards. That'll be it for him. This is the third game in a row at home with Dolphins? Yeah, it was a month-long stretch where they never had to leave Florida, which could go either way. Yeah. So I have – this is Bill's Dolphins, right? Bill's Dolphins.

Yeah, I have the Bills by three. All right, you get that exactly. Wow, you're beating me up. I said two and a half. It's exactly three. I like the Bills. You like the Bills. I think they're the good-bad team this year.

Mm-hmm. I think you can make a case the good-bad teams are Washington and Buffalo. Take care of business. You don't think they're the good team? Which one? The Bills. I think they're good. That good-bad team, you can be the ninth-best team.

All right. I don't know. They might be good. McCoy looks great. Yeah. And it's funny. We said this last week, too, but we made so much fun of them for switching the coordinator.

Meanwhile, this new guy, he's kind of figured out how to use Taylor and McCoy together. So stupid. No Sammy Watkins. No Watkins, no Dez Bryant in these teams. Both teams playing better. Strange. What's the Cowboys, the ultimate Ewing theory?

No Dez and no Tony Romo? It's pretty good. I bought a shirt at training camp that says Romo Dez 2016. Presidential shit everywhere. Beautiful. It's astoundingly similar to Bledsoe and Glenn. This was the same thing with the Pats. No Bledsoe, no Glenn, and we got better.

I hate it. All right. Late afternoon, San Diego at Atlanta. Do you still have the... You should put the Romo Dez t-shirt on eBay. I should? Yeah. No, I'm holding out for hope.

I'm wearing that thing. Raise money to get Tony Romo as the next starter again. Let's make Dallas great again. How dare you. Scary game for Atlanta. San Diego at Atlanta. Are we in the late games? We are. Three late afternoon. Falcons by

seven. I said seven. Also, it's six and a half. Split that one. That seems like let's throw the Falcons in every tease and then you're like, oh my god, Phil Rivers is going to throw for 500 yards. We made a great teaser. We made our teaser eight minutes after the podcast last week. Patriots, Steelers.

Pat Steelers, put them with the Bills, and then put them with the Cardinals. I still like it. I still like it. Dan Quinn on Atlanta, I liked when he ripped his headset off. Yeah. He looked like a serial killer Quinn on Atlanta, I liked when he ripped his headset off. Yeah. He looked like a serial killer. Yeah, he was a madman. Every year there's one coach who looks like a serial killer,

most memorably Brad Childress, who might have been a serial killer. Right, yeah. This year it's Dan Quinn. Dan Quinn is like, in 20 minutes left in the movie, the detective goes to his house and he answers, and it's just covered in newspapers. Good for him. That's a big game.

That means they might have to go to Seattle again in January. They better beat this Chargers team. Tampa Bay at San Francisco. Well, the Falcons are 4-2, right? Yeah. Nobody else has more than two wins in that division? Are you crying? I just had a hiccup.

More than two? Yeah, they have a two-game lead in that division. Are you crying? I just had a hiccup. More than two? Yeah. They have a two-game lead in that division. Yeah, one and a half. New Orleans. Tampa Bay and New Orleans are both one and a half. Right. Yeah, they have one more game than them.

Atlanta's home games are San Diego, Green Bay, Arizona, KC, and San Francisco. They already beat New Orleans, right? Road games are Tampa, Philly, Rams, Carolina, New Orleans. I mean, if they lost to Tampa twice, that's a problem. I don't know what to... AFC South might be a 9-7. Yeah. What's the next one?

Tampa at San Francisco. Tampa at San Francisco. I got the Bucs by 2. I had... Man, you get it. I had the Bucs by 1. It's Bucs by 2. I didn't see a lot of the Niners game, but by all accounts,

Kaepernick was just terrible. Yeah, he looked like he was throwing the ball for the first time ever. And I think Chip Kelly, Lombardi and I talked about it a little last week. I think Chip Kelly knew it. He even said he weighs 10 pounds less than he should, and he had all these disqualifiers even before they put him in there. The Niners gave up, I think, 312 yards rushing. That's a bad, bad team.

He's getting dangerously close to, and I mean this in a positive, happy way, to the Oscar Gamble Afro. Did you see his Afro last night? Yeah, and I don't want this to sound the wrong way, but I don't know how that fits in a helmet. Someone needs to explain. I want to see the science behind it. He might yeah it really all just pushes down like that braids something it doesn't seem to be bothering them though incredible afro really if

moochie norris i give moochie norris never gets the credit he deserves for he was the first one who brought it back right in the early 2000s And nobody was even thinking that way until Moochie. Right. All right. New England at Pittsburgh. Oh, man. I think you're up one on me with three games left. So I guessed this before I knew about Landry Jones.

And I had Steelers by two and a half. And now I have Pats. Now I would say Pats by three and a half all right i said pats by six and it's seven and a half holy shit yeah you have a good team congratulations finally what do you think it would have been if roethlisberger was healthy i think that would have been favored right yeah by a couple two or three two and a half it's a 10-point swing from Roethlisberger to Landry Jones. That seems very, very high. Jesus.

I don't know. But you know what? It's not, though. Because like we discussed last week, Roethlisberger goes to the end zone 10 times a game. Yeah. And that's just not going to be good with Landry. Your odds of succeeding with Landry on those spots are not nearly as good. There's a way for them to beat us with Landry Jones.

The thing I would say is that the Patriots own the Steelers and have for years. Wow. They just do. You have certain teams that you own, and they've had unbelievable success against the Steelers. But I do think there's a rest. The Steelers could get super creative with Le'Veon Bell and Brown and Slants and just do ball control. I think it's a winnable game for them.

They'll be up for it. I don't think our defense is that good. All right, the night game, the Sunday night game. Wait, hold on. Before we go to night games, we have to talk about Sonos really quick. The smart speaker system that streams all of your favorite music to any room or every room. You could have Chicago.

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and oh, and hey, let's do this, and it's like being on somebody else's vacation. It is horrible. He snuck on the plane, you know? He wasn't even supposed to be on there. He's missing school. He ditched the whole semester to go on this trip. What parent would let their kid go

to Japan with a janitor? Yeah, she had problems at Mrs. La Russa. Mrs. La Russa had a lot of problems. Bad mom. Alright, night games. Seattle and Arizona. This is weird. They get two home night games in a row. That doesn't usually happen. They have one tonight and then Sunday night.

I can't believe I'm saying this. I have Seattle by three. Oh, all right. I'm going to get this. Actually, I had it exactly. Arizona by one and a half. Yeah, I think Seattle should be favored. It's going to change tonight, right?

Unless the cards really lay the smack down against the Jets. Right. Seattle's good. Yeah. Seattle's good. Yeah. Seattle's a good team. Short week. Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right.

All right, Monday. Wait, let's add these up. Five, six, seven, eight. You need this to tie. Okay. Houston at Denver. Hmm. Brock Osweiler's revenge.

Revenge against Texas fans. I had the Broncos by six. We do tie. It's six and a half. I had five and a half. Second tie in a row. There you go. Brock Osweiler comes home. We don't like any teasers, right?

Or do you like, man, Kansas City, New Orleans is tough, too. You wouldn't take Atlanta. You don't feel great about Atlanta. You don't feel great about Kansas City. you don't feel great about kansas city the packers money line is intriguing cincinnati's winning too cleveland hasn't did you see what hugh jackson did in that game no they scored to cut it to nine with like three minutes left and they went for the two and he missed it so then there was a two possession game with three minutes left i never understand that just cut it to eight and then go for two when you have the momentum at the end right i never understand the whole let's decide our fate now he's getting the tank call from the gm like hey what are you doing here yeah come on

who's the number one pick the louisville guy or is that guy not eligible yet it's tough now now there's a bunch of guys a bunch of guys yeah Tate who's the number one pick who's Carolina gonna take Tate's crying Tate don't cry could be Watson could be Jackson could be any of these quarterbacks it's just whoever fits the seat I mean mean, probably Watson, right? Yeah. Right. Who do you have for your bottom four right now? I have the Bears, Jets, Niners, Browns. Niners for sure.

Browns for sure. I think Bears and Jets are next too, right? Bears and Jets. If you didn't just make the Carolina joke, I would have jumped on it there too. Panthers, I had fifth worst. Right. They certainly have the worst defense you say the jets oh yeah yeah i guess i think the decker thing really hurts them

i thought lombardi made a good point last week about how their offense is built to throw these tall receivers and now they don't have one and now what do you do yeah where do you go they're gonna cover my don julio shot of the week says they cover tonight. I'm trying to think, is there anything else we have to cover? Mike McCarthy, first coach fired. I talked about that before the season. Remember that was my big sleeper? Right. If they lose this Thursday night game and then they have 10 days off,

that's when you would do it, right? Yeah, I guess so. Have to talk about that. Remaining quarterbacks on the Patriots schedule? Mm-hmm. Jones, Landry Jones, Tyrod Taylor, Wilson it's gonna depress me Kaepernick Keenum Flacco Simeon Tannehill Fitzpatrick twice yeah what are you gonna press you because we have the AFC East that's true what are you worried about you're gonna win 13 games uh are there eight good any nfl coaches that was my last topic nfl coaches i had good belichick

tomlin carol reed kubiak harbaugh zimmer bruce arians eight yeah that's good does that sound like eight so there are eight so 25 of the coaches are good you said tomlin yeah yeah i like tomlin yeah and uh and kubiak comes back he didn't coach last week right didn't coach last week yeah um it's funny i was talking about thinking about jeff fisher and how they they won their first you know they were three and one whatever the rams were because their defense was locked down and their offense was in the bottom quarter of the league and now their offense is picking up yeah and they're three and three i think they just have to be eight and eight it's like when your body is telling you you have to be a certain weight like you could diet or you could eat a lot but you're kind of just going to be within five pounds that's it they're eight and

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Gail Gadot. Gadot, sorry. Fast and Furious. I should say that right. Right. She's the new Wonder Woman too, right? Gary Johnson, Benedict Cumberbatch.

And we're going live. We're doing a live show after the debates, not to compete with your show, but- Like you're coming out at 11 o'clock? We're live we're on we're on what time would that be 35 we're shooting it's first time we're live in like 14 years 8 35 oh so 11 35 et yeah is it on live on the west coast yes uh well no i mean you'll you'll

see it no it won't be live it'll be live the East Coast. We haven't been live since the Punisher dropped the F-bomb. We had it right. The censors didn't catch it 14 years ago. Oh, yeah. Remember that? Jimmy and I told the story on Saturday about how the drunk live audience and how the lady puked right in front of Michael Eisner. And that ended it.

And then Daniel chose that as a hill to stand on, fighting for the audience to continue to be drunk. And I knew nothing. I was like, this is a bad sign, right? The guy who runs the show is going to die on this hill. We still do. Our viewers should be drunk. The New York Times did a documentary on our first few months and everything. And there was that big meeting about Daniel afterwards.

And he wouldn't take no for an answer. It was a roundtable of miserable producers, like 50 of them. Daniel's like, we are drinking in the audience. And DeLuca, our supervisor producer, is like, soft drinks, Daniel. They're allowing soft drinks. Coke. Daniel throws his bat in the air. What a time.

Check in Cousin Sal's short thing this Friday. I was 2-1, 11-6 on the year, 10-6 if you don't want to count Pat's moneyline last week. Yeah, we'll count it. $9,000 prop bet challenge. There'll be a new one. Thanks to Facebook and Dollar Shave Club. That's that.

11-6. Yeah. Really solid. Good job by you. Good job by you. Anytime y'all want to see me again, rewind this track right here. Close your eyes. And picture me rolling.