The Bill Simmons Podcast - Ep. 152: Week 15 Lines With Cousin Sal

Episode Date: December 12, 2016

Bill Simmons and Cousin Sal discuss Dallas’s lackluster performance (1:20) and wonder if Tony Romo would have done better (5:04). They also review the remaining weeks of the schedule and the emergin...g playoff picture (8:30), debate penalty revisions (26:35), and talk Odell Beckham Jr. (28:05), Deflategate Part 2 (32:09), fantasy football (40:15), and this year's Oscars, hosted by Jimmy Kimmel (53:55). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:39 Go there this week. Find our year in 2016 pieces about best albums, songs albums songs tv episodes sci-fi movies you name it we also have ringer swag still time to get holiday gifts ringer swag and speaking of swag sal does not have a lot of swag this like let's start and then we'll get to the cuz I'm here. It's a Monday morning. Gloomy. Not just outside, but gloomy in the room. The cuz.
Starting point is 00:01:24 The cuz is nervous. I didn't think it would hurt this much. I went in. I was like, I'm not nervous about this Giant game. I don't care. And then I realized losing to the Giants is like four losses. And when it happens on a Sunday night, it's like six losses. And you got swept by them.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Yeah. They all have their swagger. The Giants fans are all doing the see you in Houston texts. Yeah, right, right, right. They scored 10 points. Yeah. And seven of them came off a 61-yard slant pattern that the guy ran 56 of the 61 yards.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Which is Eli's new crane kick, I think, right? It used to be you just tossed it up to the sidelines and it'll stick to someone's head or something. You'll underthrow it and get a pass interference. But he's good for that one six-yard slant to, you know, Odell Beckham Jr. And then he outruns everyone. And that really should not be enough to win a game,
Starting point is 00:02:08 but it was last night. Eli was terrible yesterday. He was just flat-out horrendous and gets the win. It's amazing. Three turnovers, three drop picks. And these weren't just like, oh, that would have been an amazing play if he caught that like just three botched picks one of them the guy was out of bounds had the two steps all he
Starting point is 00:02:30 had to do was roll over he didn't have it yeah i don't know how he didn't win that game yeah i didn't play that game 10 times i think you win nine that's eli's luck though isn't it i mean i know i sound like a whiny bitch and i'm coming on to let we're 11 and 2 and everything but that's his luck. He gets, no one else can turn the ball over four times and win a game like he does. It's a Manning family thing that really started with Superbowl 42 and has now, and then it extended through the last few years of Manning's career. We can't even conduct a podcast. I'm flipping off Weinberger as he walks by.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Weinberger, big Giants fan. I was on an email with him, a text with him and Hershey, my other Giants fan yesterday. And they, oh man. They love it. The chests are puffed. But yeah, the Mannings.
Starting point is 00:03:16 How many of the, what do you think their win-loss record is in those games where it's like, I'm going to be terrible and we're still going to win the game somehow? They win all of them. I don't know. I only remember the ones they win. Well, let's go through a couple of issues. One is that you're one and 24 on third down the past two weeks.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Right. I thought two for 23, but yeah. Two, whatever it is. Two for 23? Yeah. Yeah. That's what it is. I had that wrong. Yeah. Dez has been very un-Dez-ishish it's almost like when you have those fanny fantasy receivers in their early 30s a year after you should have them like reggie wayne roddy wade andre johnson the year after they were good right right right and that's how he feels this year except he's not in his early 30s like he should be in his prime i don't understand what's what do you think's wrong with this a couple big but you know they won the game, the Minnesota game, because of him. Right. But, yeah, they should hook up.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And then, as always is the case with Dez, his targets are low. You know there's some jaw going on in the sidelines. And, you know, Dak forced it to him the second time. And it was a bad pick. And I blame myself because my son, I said to him, we're up 7-3. We're driving. And I said, wow, we're up 7-3. We're driving. And I said, wow, the Giants can't win this game. Defense is playing well, but they have no fire offensively at all.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Two plays later, Dak throws a pick to Dez, and then they score on the Beckham play. Yeah, you almost would have been better off just three downs and punt for the last three quarters of the game. Yeah. I don't really understand what the third down issues are because you got Beasley. You think he's like an Edelman type that can just kind of get open and get the eight yards. Witten's a Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Right. Dez can make plays. One of the things I noticed, it doesn't seem like you really throw downfield to Dez that much. And the one time they did yesterday was pick. Doesn't throw downfield much at all. And this is why it gets me crazy that Jason Garrett's in the conversation for coach of the year.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Well, he's not anymore. Not anymore. The Giants scored 10 points. They turned the ball over a half a dozen times, and you can't win the game. That's all Jason Garrett. I'm sorry. And why?
Starting point is 00:05:20 Speaking of third down, third and 11, you're pitching the ball to Ezekiel Elliott. You have to have confidence in your quarterback, if this is who we're going to go to to throw the ball downfield. Oh, you just said it. I know. I was waiting for you to bring it up. I wanted to see if you brought it up.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Kevin Clark came over last night. We watched the whole game. And at some point, we were like, would Romo win this game? Yeah. And all of us were like, yeah. Yeah, probably. Right. There's a good chance.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Oh, my nephew. Is that my nephew? Your nephew's here. My nephew Kyle's here. Come on. Have a seat, Kyle. Come on. We're just about to get serious there.
Starting point is 00:05:53 No, let me ask you this. And my friend Brian brought up a good point. He asked a lot of his Giant fan friends, what would you rather have in a playoff game if you're a Giant fan? Would you rather go on the road and face Dak or play a home game and face Romo? They all said on the road. Really?
Starting point is 00:06:13 He managed to find the only honest Giants fans out there. So I looked this up because I had remembered there was a moment during the first Brady season when we all freaked out about Brady. about, oh, he's too young. He's not ready. The league's figuring him out. He's getting nervous. And I was like, I was, there was some game I was telling Clark.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I was like, there's some game. I can't remember near the end when he looks shaky and all the Brady blood. So stuff really started up and it was in December. It was the weather was miserable and i can't so we went looked up the game log and it was this browns game that he played where he threw a pick six in the first half we were down 10-3 we got it was like all field goals and like he didn't really do anything he had two picks in that game and i think the next week we beat somebody like 12-10 it wasn't very good you do a a pick six against the Browns? He threw a pick six against the Browns. He should have never played again. I don't care what year it is.
Starting point is 00:07:07 The last five regular season games, he had like two touchdowns and five picks. Wow. Very ordinary things. And it really, the Brady Bledsoe thing really heated up in December. And I do think that's going to happen. I was very surprised that Michaels and Collinsworth,
Starting point is 00:07:20 who usually are looking at the big storylines, like it was becoming a storyline in the second half of that game. And I thought for sure they were going to have the conversation. I thought there'd be three more cutaways to Romo than there were. I think they only showed one on the side. He definitely had a lot more life in the fourth quarter. Cause yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:34 First half, it was like sad, right. Broken down Tony Romo. Just, Oh my God, what's happened to my life. And then by the fourth,
Starting point is 00:07:41 fourth quarter, he's definitely walking around. It's going to get interesting. If they lose to Tampa, they could lose to Tampa, and then the Giants beat the Lions. And then it's like, wow, maybe we do put Romo in. But what if they just beat Tampa by three, and then they don't have a meaningful game for almost a month?
Starting point is 00:07:59 That's going to be rough, too. So Tampa, now all logic says Tampa, oh,a oh man this is bad this is bad for you tampa's been beating good teams now for five six weeks they're coming into their own the whole thing also not scoring a lot but winning yeah not scoring a lot and not good against the run right it's actually a pretty good matchup for you yeah they're not going to score a ton of points and you can control the ball on paper but if that's not going to play well you're not going to be a ton of points, and you can control the ball on paper. But if Dak's not going to play well, you're not going to beat Tampa. Right. It's going to be close.
Starting point is 00:08:28 So I wrote down all the possible scenarios, and you're 11-2 right now. You got Tampa and Detroit at home and at Philly. I think you need two more wins for the one seed. Really? Because Seattle is 8-4-1 one but they have the rams on thursday who have gotten blown out now three straight times arizona at home then at san francisco and at san francisco i think they sweep even though they haven't looked good i'd be shocked if they lost any of those they're gonna finish 11 four and one 11 four and one so you need to go 12
Starting point is 00:09:02 and four i think to get the one seed i think think that's right. Now, on top of that, you got the Giants two games behind you and they win the tiebreaker because they swept you. And the Giants have home for Detroit at Philly,
Starting point is 00:09:12 at Washington. I think they blow one of those just because, you know, I don't think their offense looks good, but let's just say
Starting point is 00:09:20 they run the slate. That puts them at 12 and four. You would have to go 13 and three at that point. It's incredible. I thought you were going wrap everything up i did like yesterday i know i don't feel great about this i don't know why i hate it downtrodden because it's out i hate it so the other stuff going on the nfc uh detroit is nine and four at the giants at dallas on a monday night home for green bay they might lose all three of those.
Starting point is 00:09:49 There's a scenario where they don't make the playoffs, which is incredible, but there is a scenario. There was a scenario until we went and bet that Detroit wouldn't make the playoffs. Right. We did swing there yesterday. Now there's no scenario. Stafford's hurt now. Stafford's got finger problems, but we have not hedged our bet. We can hedge it right now.
Starting point is 00:10:04 That's what you want to do? No, no. I actually don't want to do? No, no. I actually don't want to. Because you know what's going to happen. They're going to end up tied with Green Bay, and then Green Bay is going to blow that game at home week 17. So Green Bay is at Chicago, home from Minnesota, at Detroit. And they're two back.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And there's a scenario. I mean, I think they'll be one game back. They might even be tied going into that week 17 game. And that's where we can hedge. And Green Bay looks like, I don't know what they figured out, but they figured something out. Well, they're turning the ball over. Their hands are all over the place on defense
Starting point is 00:10:33 and setting up nice field position for the Packers. But they're getting deep passes now. They weren't getting those before. And that running back, who is the converted wide receiver, is actually weirdly effective now. Not bad. They somehow top 100 yards a game. And Kristen Michael got a little bit of revenge too.
Starting point is 00:10:48 He had some biggish runs against his old team yesterday. So they're going to beat Chicago. That makes them eight and six. I don't think Minnesota's very good. I think they can win that at home. All of a sudden they're nine and six. They're going to be in the hunt. And the only thing that screws them is if Detroit.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I'm telling you. Detroit has to win two of those. Detroit has to basically beat the Giants at Dallas. They'd have to win both. I don't see it. Right. You think of, they've had seven either or games this year. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And I think they've won six. They're six and one, which is a weird sign. I ended up having the Lions on a money line parlor or something yesterday. But even, I don't feel good about their wins ever. Matt Barkley should have beat them yesterday. I understand defense is as big a part of the game as offense, but you want these playoff teams clicking offensively. Detroit, Dallas, there's some others in the AFC.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I don't know. You just want a more balanced team come middle December. I'm not seeing that a lot. The reality is Tampa's playing the best in the NFC right now. It doesn't mean that they're the best team, but right now they're playing the best. They're 8-5. Atlanta's 8-5.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Atlanta's got home for San Francisco at Carolina at New Orleans, which is their best case for winning the division because they should win all three of those games. They're going to be favoring all of them. But they lost Trufant. Julio Jones is going to be out at least one more week. I don't know. They won't lose to San Francisco. He could sit.
Starting point is 00:12:10 No, no, they won't lose to them. Tampa's at Dallas, at New Orleans, home for Carolina. I think Tampa is going to finish 10-6, which would put them in the playoffs. They'd have to, though. They have to finish 10-6, right? Yeah, Washington 7-5-1. That's the only other...
Starting point is 00:12:25 Well, I guess one of the NFC North teams too, but Washington 7, 5, and 1, home for Carolina at Chicago at Giants. Right. It's either three NFC East teams or two NFC East teams and two NFC South. Unless the Lions go for three. I think 10 wins has to get a wild card.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Right. 10 wins gets to succeed. So then in the East, I think New England, Kansas get a wild card. Right. 10 wins gets the sixth seed. So then in the East, I think New England, Kansas City, and Pittsburgh are in. Pittsburgh's got AdSense, Baltimore at home, Cleveland at home. That's the thing. The AFCs, I think they have the four. Now you're scared of every week a new team picks up. I'm scared of everyone.
Starting point is 00:13:02 My defense stinks. Right? Pittsburgh's insane. Kansas city, terrible matchup for the, the Patriots. Even the Raiders are still there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:10 The Raiders 10 and three there, they're either going to be a five seat, a two seat or a one seat. So that the, the six spot is the one that I can't figure out. You got Miami at eight and five, you got Baltimore at seven and five, you get Denver at eight and five and Baltimore loses today,
Starting point is 00:13:23 which I'm very concerned about the, the Pat's game. I'm not, I'm definitely not going to say they're going seven and five, you get Denver at eight and five. And if Baltimore loses today, which I'm very concerned about the Pats game. I'm definitely not going to say they're going seven and six. But Baltimore's got at the Pats, home for Philly, at Pittsburgh, at Cincy. That's tough. I think they're nine wins. That's nine and seven. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:37 But Miami at the Jets should be a win. Although how many times has Miami gone in and lost to the Jets? Well, there's no Tannehill now, too, so you can't give him any win. I was going to ask you about that. Is Tannehill like a C-plus? He's a C? Yeah. Is Matt Moore like a C-minus? D-plus? He's going to win two road
Starting point is 00:13:56 games and home for New England? I just don't think it's like losing Matthew Stafford, is my point. I think they can... I think they're stuck at nine wins, too. Well, they also, they kept their at Buffalo in Week 16 at the best I think they can. I think they're stuck at nine wins too. Well, they also, they're at Buffalo in week 16 at the best possible time to play Buffalo. And they're not sure if Tyrod Taylor's coming back.
Starting point is 00:14:11 The whole thing. And then Miami's got the Pats in week 17. That's one of my questions with this AFC is, will week 17 mean anything to the Pats? Because they're 10-2. Baltimore this week, at Denver next week. If you split one of the next two, it's going to mean something.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Right, but I don't mind going into Denver at this point. I know those words are going to haunt me, but Denver just doesn't look like a playoff team. If Bill Belichick, if someone came to him and said, you can only win one of these games, which one do you want it to be? Baltimore or Denver? Baltimore, really. Because you can knock Baltimore, you can really
Starting point is 00:14:42 send them reeling. But you don't want to, I guess you want to say, hey, no one beats us at home. That's how it's going to be. I don't think Denver is, do you think Denver is the same team? Well, I was saying if you have to win one game, which one does he want? Which one does he want? You want the one tonight. You don't want to avenge the, at Denver, the loss last year?
Starting point is 00:14:56 He doesn't care about revenge. He's Bill Belichick. What? Then they have the- Can we clip that line right there? He doesn't care about revenge. He's Bill Belichick. Then they have New York and they're at Miami week 17.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Yeah. My goal is for week 17 not to mean anything. Yeah, right. But it might because KC's home for Tennessee, home for Denver at San Diego. KC might finish 13 and three here. So I have a feeling week 17 will mean something. And we learned last year, Kyle, you remember this.
Starting point is 00:15:24 My nephew's a pats fan we we you don't mess around with with the with the one seed you clinch the one seed that's what you do kyle's nodding oh that's right so yeah last year we messed around and all of a sudden we're at denver there was something with pittsburgh we just we got we're banged up we had miami and the jets the whole team was banged up and we tried to sneak by and just kind of steal one of them and we should have gone all out and tried to go. So, the other one that's up there is Houston, Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Both seven and six. Who cares? Houston has the AFC South tiebreaker. No, we care because I know. I want Brock Osweiler in round one. Yeah. That's what I want. I totally care. One of my picks was Houston plus six. I like that one they were leading yeah you did too we texted about it but i did not i just just please hand it off please every time he drops back to pass and stares down the same
Starting point is 00:16:14 receiver for eight seconds it just drives me crazy i was mad how soon i did the callaway part three on friday and i took the cowboys and i didn't do the math right I I I thought the Cowboys game I thought there was going to be more at stake with the Seattle part of it and then Seattle lost right and I thought that was bad for you that Seattle lost because it wasn't as bad it's like oh we we kind of probably have the one seed and then yeah then all of a sudden now you look at and you go oh actually we you know but but I didn't think he came out. You think Jason Garrett said, you know what, Seattle lost. Dak, don't take off once.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Don't shake up this defense even once. No sprint draw for the quarterback. Let's not even call that once. We'll go with that. Is Dak still doing the, is he still the good guy who doesn't go to parties or anything? I think so. All right, kid.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I hope success isn't going to Dak's head. I don't know. You're 2-40 on third down the last two weeks. Yeah. No, I don't think so. Maybe keep that guy at home. I think he's a good enough guy. Come on, Dak. Listen, all I know is any given Sunday, I know what happened to Willie Beeman. What happened? Success went to his head. Is Dak going to have a music video coming out? He's going to be fine. You sure? Get rid of that coach. Enough already. It's so funny how many teams don't feel great about their coach. Enough already. It's so funny how many teams don't feel great about their coach.
Starting point is 00:17:29 No, I know. Or their fan bases of those teams. Yeah, you should consider yourself lucky. You love your coach and he's not going anywhere, and you don't want him to go anywhere. Chiefs fans, and their team's been great, and they're still like their guard is so high up at this point. But I don't know, who'd you bet at gunpoint Super Bowl? I'm going Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I said Chiefs before the year, and I think they're the most balanced. They're a good team, and I like them. All right. And I think Andy Reid and Tim... They're more than welcome to come to Foxborough and try to take the championship belt for us. Who knows?
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Starting point is 00:18:54 We have a Saturday game. Yeah. We have a Thursday, a Saturday, and a Sunday. Wait, now we both like the Saturday game. Oh, yeah. Now, I don't like it when it's Miami at the Jets. It used to be. But I usually like it.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I don't like that Saturday game. Didn at the Jets. It used to be. But I usually like it. I don't like that Saturday game. Didn't it used to be a couple Saturday games? Or it was definitely an afternoon game. Because I remember having to do Christmas shopping. But it's like. It used to be two. Right. I don't want to miss.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Love the two. I love the two, too. They were great. Go back to it. I don't know why this has to be one primetime Saturday game. I would get rid of the Thursdays. And just, I would have Saturdays starting. You know when we could use Saturday games?
Starting point is 00:19:23 Makes more sense. This weekend. Yeah. What were you could use Saturday games? Makes more sense. This weekend. Yeah. What were you watching on Saturday afternoon? Nothing. No, the Army-Navy. Oh, the Army-Navy game. Every year they try to talk us to the Army-Navy game.
Starting point is 00:19:33 It's fine, but I would rather watch like Tampa Bay. That is the problem. They have an unwritten or maybe even written agreement with the NCAA. We're not going to take your games. You're not going to take ours. It's kind of why. Yeah, but the last four weeks, I think we should have Saturday games. Yeah, load them up. That would get rid to take your games. You're not going to take ours. The last four weeks I think we should have Saturday games.
Starting point is 00:19:47 That would get rid of the Thursdays. We both hit our Don Julio shot last week. You had Indy over the Jets. Easy. I had Casey over Oakland. We're going to hit it again this week. I'm doing it. I'm taking the Ravens plus, what is it, seven? Yeah. Wait, let me see.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It's a three-point game. If it's under seven, I'm not taking them. I hate when you do this because it's such a win-win. Why is it a win-win? Because, you know, first of all, you could hit a middle where six and a half. You want to take six and a half? Oh. Eh.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Well, you thought they were going to win by exactly seven? I still think the line's three points off. I think we should be three and a half point favorites. Yeah. All right. I thought the two lines that were off this I think we should be three and a half point favorites. Yeah. All right. I thought the two lines that were off this week were this line and Texans-Colts. The Patriots still haven't had a statement game.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Still haven't had a... Right? When was the last time they beat a really good team? All right. So what do you want to do? I'm going to follow you on Don Julio. Well, why don't we just take Seattle over LA on Thursday? We could.
Starting point is 00:20:45 How many? Well, let's guess the line for that. I guess 13. What'd you have? I said 14 and it is 14. And this should be, this should be 31 to six. So that would be the Rams fourth straight blowout. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:57 The Rams do like playing the Seahawks, but I don't think the Rams like playing. Rams are coming off a win. They, uh, they beat Seattle. They won nine, three last time, but they've quit on the Rams like playing. Rams are coming off a win. They beat Seattle. They won 9-3 last time. But they've quit on everything. They have. Yeah. Let's do Don Julio.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Thanks, Don Julio. We want to do right by Don Julio. There you go. The 1942, my favorite tequila. Yeah. You love it. Now let's just talk real quick. Vegas is laughing at us right now.
Starting point is 00:21:20 There are three teams that are losing against the spread more than consistently. Four straight that the Rams haven't covered. 49ers haven't covered seven of the last nine. Browns haven't covered
Starting point is 00:21:31 seven in a row. How is there no article about Floyd Mayweather putting down like $3 million against the Browns every week? The Browns haven't covered
Starting point is 00:21:38 seven in a row? Seven in a row. Wow. That's unheard of. Because usually the lines adjust in November and early December. And they didn't adjust this week either.
Starting point is 00:21:46 How's like Cincinnati's giving four to them? Guess what? No one wants to be the team to lose to the Browns. I know. I picked the Browns that are a pick-spot. It's like Hugh Jackson. I couldn't resist. Hugh Jackson against his old team.
Starting point is 00:21:56 He's had a week, two weeks to prepare. Like, yeah, they got killed by Cincinnati earlier in the year. Still was his old team. Let's do Saturday. Dolphins at Jets. Yeah. I guess Dolph dolphins three and a half uh we split this i said two and a half it is three i really don't think the matt moore is gonna be that much of a drop off i don't so the jets i thought it was a nice job by bryce uh petty threw a pick his first i think it was the second play of the game. Yeah. Looked bad.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Then they're down 14-0. That's rough. I know it's in San Francisco, but that's tough to come back from two touchdowns down on the road. Chip Kelly, did Oregon hire a coach yet?
Starting point is 00:22:35 They said they've spoken to him. He doesn't want to go back. Just go back. Yeah, go back. Just do what you love to do, Chip Kelly. Just go 10-1 every year and run crazy offense.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I don't think he's listening to this. You don't think so? No. I actually wouldn't rule it offense. I don't think he's listening to this. You don't think so? No. I actually wouldn't rule it out because I don't think he's spent a lot of time coaching. There's no way Miami, this feels like, I wouldn't bet on Miami, I'll put it that way. No, me neither. If I call you or text you and want to do like a three-team money parlay with the Dolphins in it, yeah. Well, I'll tell you this.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Miami won 27-23 the first time they played. But let me say this. We are going to be be we've taken a couple weeks off from teasers this is the week to get back you'll see i'm mad i don't i i was at a soccer tournament all weekend for my daughter and i'm mad that we didn't bet on the bucks i love the bucks although maybe they could have if they wanted not covered that was lingering that whole second half. Well, that was my best bet on Cousin Sal. But that was scary. It was scary. The Bucs couldn't get, especially when they have Aguayo in the rain.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Yeah, right, right. Trying to kick the field goal for the cover, basically. That guy's terrifying. I know. Oh, also in the Dolphins cards game, we had another two-point reversion. That's right. I was so excited. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:44 My favorite. It hasn't caught on yet. That was like a five, and he missed a field goal, right? He hit the crossbar or something. The Card special teams and turnovers have just murdered them. They might be like a nine and seven,
Starting point is 00:23:57 10 and 16. Yeah, get rid of that tie at least. The other one who's been a murderer quietly has been Phil Rivers. He's been terrible for a month now. i wonder if he's gonna come out after the season that he has like a broken right elbow or multiple three interception games right like really bad yeah it's not good all right here's our first teaser game green bay of chicago at the packers by seven and a half matt barkley continues to be half decent yep i hit it exactly it's six and a half. Matt Barkley continues to be half decent. Yep. I hit it exactly. It's six and a half.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Probably should be higher. You're right. Hey, can we do something unorthodox? What is it? What games are just completely irrelevant? Let's just zip through those. Bill's Browns? Bill's Browns.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I had Bill's by eight. See, you went way low. I said 13. It's 10. So I won. You're closer. I couldn't go double figures for a team that might fire its coach and bench its starting quarterback.
Starting point is 00:24:51 It's the Browns. It's the Browns. I don't know. Just how many times Vegas is laughing at us. All right. What's the other? Jacksonville-Houston? No, I guess that matters.
Starting point is 00:25:03 All right. That's the only one that doesn't matter. All right. We got rid of it. All right. Tennessee and Kansas City. So this guess that matters. All right, that's the only one that doesn't matter. All right, we got rid of it. All right, Tennessee at Kansas City. So this one strangely matters. This is another teaser game. KC by seven, I have.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I said six. You're going to get it. It's five and a half. It started at six and went to five and a half. I said seven. You get it. I'm sorry. I'll take that one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:22 I think we've learned that when the AFC South teams play each other versus when the AFC South teams play other teams, you have to treat the line differently. Who did? Titans beat Denver yesterday, though. Yeah. Oh, so what are you saying? I just, I don't think Denver's very good.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Oh, I see. Okay. I think there's a big difference between going against Denver and going against the Chiefs. And Andy Reid has an exceptional record after buys, right? I wonder how it is after like 10 days rest, because they did play Thursday. It's like going against Denver, going against the Chiefs. And Andy Reid has an exceptional record after buys, right? I wonder how it is after like 10 days rest, because they did play Thursday. It's like half as exceptional.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Probably half as exceptional. Okay. That's a tough spot for a team that's not putting up a lot of points. Tennessee? Yeah. To go to KC. How many points do they have to score? 20?
Starting point is 00:26:00 That is a lot. They basically have to do what Tampa Bay did in the game in KC, like three, four weeks ago. Right. I don't think the Chiefs let down. I know you don't like him as a person, but that Tyreek Hill was really exciting. Was it Dante Hall? Why is that my controversial
Starting point is 00:26:14 opinion? I don't like Tyreek Hill. You like him? I'm very fond of him. All I can say is if the Pats play them in the playoffs and they punt to Tyreek Hill, I'm going to flip out. You're going to be mad? Yeah. Just punt it out of bounds. I don't even want to deal with him. Don't go anywhere near him. Did you see the
Starting point is 00:26:29 Sparrowhead crowd? It's terrible. He's obviously in concussion protocol right now. So we need to revise the penalties. I've been pushing this for 15 years. There was no penalty there, right? They didn't call it? No, there was a penalty. Oh, there was.
Starting point is 00:26:45 So pass interference. if it's 50 yards downfield and I push Odell, they just spot it at the ball. That should have been like a 50-yard penalty. Yeah, that's interesting. I don't know why we're stuck with 5, 10, 15. I think we should have like a completely reprehensible play. It should be 50 yards or 35 yards or 40 or whatever. That was one where they should have just gotten the ball on the one-yard line.
Starting point is 00:27:11 I never thought of that. That was so bad. That was one of the worst hits. The other bad one was— But then do we see more flopping like we do in soccer? If we could draw a red card. How do you flop on that? No, I know.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I know. The other bad one was the Seattle the on the green bay tight end uh wagner and rogers i didn't see flying and did like oh yeah well i did see it right he did the flying forearm basically and almost decapitated the guy that should have been like a 30 yarder even though they were inside the tent yeah uh detroit at the giants detroit at the Giants. Detroit at the Giants. I have the Giants by three and a half. Might be low. It's a little bit low. You're going to get this. Started at four and a half, down to four after that game.
Starting point is 00:27:56 The spread moved down after a win. I said three. It is four. So you get that one. Odell. I think there's two people in my life that I've ever seen be able to take that slant and just go the whole way like that. Jerry Rice. That's it.
Starting point is 00:28:13 That's it. It's the Jerry Rice part. Rice was even better for the under 30s out there. Like, Jerry Rice was the best receiver I'm ever going to see in my life, and he did what Odell did all the time. It seems to me like on grass, too. I don't know. I just see him with tears.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And he was doing it in an era when he was going to get decapitated if he went over the middle, which you have to factor in, too. But Odell, it's just unbelievable. And he didn't even have a very good game, but he makes that one play. He is like Peter King compared him to David Ortiziz i saw steph curry i knew you were gonna love that no i didn't i didn't love it that much to me he's more like clay thompson right it's you know you just never know when he's gonna hit four threes in a row and be like he's quiet quiet quiet and then all of a sudden boom boom boom and he's just pummeling actually drop passes the leading
Starting point is 00:29:00 up to that it's like what's he doing? He had a couple big drafts. What is he throwing us? Real quick on Detroit. Last six quarterbacks they've faced. Matt Barkley, Drew Brees, fine. He's a legend. Bradford, Bortles, Bradford, Osweiler. They've lucked out the whole year. Yeah. Have they played any other good QBs?
Starting point is 00:29:17 Just Rodgers? Maybe that's it, right? They played Matt Ryan, didn't they? Who did they play? They played Cousins. Yeah, they played Cousins. It's sad that Cousins is like a top eight QB, but I actually think he might be.
Starting point is 00:29:30 We did Cleveland at Buffalo, Indianapolis at Minnesota. Yeah, I really think there's a chance the Lions could blow these last three. It would be so Lions-y too, wouldn't it? You just don't want to take points again. For some reason, they're always in every game in the fourth quarter. So if you're going to give four or three and a half with the Giants. Well, you know my theory. Never trust Eli ever.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Right. Ever. Ever. Under any circumstances. Ever. I would never lay the three and a half points with him. Might be a cross off. In my life.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Yeah. I think it's a cross off. I wouldn't bet him. What do you got? Indianapolis at Minnesota. You need your head examined if you bet this one, too. I have Minnesota crossed off.
Starting point is 00:30:14 You do? I think I just have them out. I know there's scenarios where they make it, but I had 13... The two teams I had a tour cross-off with yesterday were Indy and Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:30:24 They're 7-6 and going to be favored in two of the last three. I know. I just mentally crossed them off. I'm not saying it's a bet your life cross them off, but I'm just. I hope you're right. I can't. So Minnesota and Indy, which is nice because that's the other team that I kind of crossed off. Now, one of them, we definitely get to unequivocally cross off.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I had the Vikings by four. I hit this exactly I said three and a half can we talk about how bad that fourth and one screen pass was for uh for Indy
Starting point is 00:30:52 Indy oh yeah first of all I've been watching football for 40 years I've never seen anyone do that in my life right
Starting point is 00:30:58 um and there's a reason I've never seen anyone do that because it was atrocious it was terrible didn't work why are you trying to catch people by surprise
Starting point is 00:31:06 on fourth and one with your season on the line? No, I know. Just get two yards. That was a weird game. That was a weird game. They couldn't move the ball at all. They got lucky. I didn't see that much of it.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Talk about your 50-yard pass interference calls. They're like two, one on T.Y., and then there's another one. They really didn't move the ball at all besides that. Could Houston be the first team that makes the playoffs and benches their quarterback for the wildcard game? Has that ever happened? Controversial,
Starting point is 00:31:28 healthy scratch. Brock Osweiler. Who is it? Savage? I don't even know. I'm just so focused on being able to wager against him. Is Oakland a seven point favorite at Houston? Oh,
Starting point is 00:31:39 I hate when we do this. Cause it steps on our round. I know. We don't have to do that. I wonder if it's at a touchdown yet. No. Okay. Cause there, there's't have to do that. I wonder if it's at a touchdown yet. No. Okay. Because there's some statistical arguments against Oakland.
Starting point is 00:31:49 I know, but who the hell is going to bet? The advanced metrics community does not like Derek Carr very much. Who's going to bet Houston to drive that line low? I don't know. It's a conversation. Is J.J. Watt, there's no way he comes back for that? Oh, I don't think so. Can they just pump him with whatever it takes
Starting point is 00:32:05 plasma treatments should he can he uh take snaps he should be the quarterback what'd you think of deflate gate too by the way well what was the point of it i don't understand like either glazer's report was just that the giants complained about the balls but the but the complaint was not to get pittsburgh it was in trouble was just to say hey these balls were though your thing is stupid. There's no way to really measure it. I texted with Glazer last night because that's my dude. Jake Glazer's never wrong, just for the record.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Like when he has reports, it's always right. Right. And he stands by it. Who do you believe, Jake Glazer or the NFL? The NFL has lied about stuff for years and years and years. They lie all the time. I just don't know what we're saying here. So what's he stands by?
Starting point is 00:32:48 Oh, the reports are rigged or they're stupid. No, I just think he's really just like hey this is what happened that's the report he stands by it the nfl is like no that's not what happened it's like no that that's what happened oh i see yeah they complained about two of the balls and they were low yeah i think it's more a case of like what is this protocol why why do we even have it and who cares are you would you like to see the steelers get in trouble or you are you more like hey screw you good no i was surprised by how little i care these numbers are dumb yeah whatever we went three and one during the flake it is fine there you go all right philadelphia at baltimore philly has quietly stunk for a while except for that one game where they beat atlanta they uh i don't know i've been picking against them and enjoying an exciting one yesterday it was actually exciting bad game oh by the way i have a lot of names uh remember a couple weeks
Starting point is 00:33:32 ago we're talking about exciting bad games what to call them yeah we have a few everyone do that craptastic uh compalling appalling and compelling uh shitastic bad pizza game i think the idea there is there's no such thing as bad pizza but you know you're gonna eat anyway but it's not that good i like that uh blunderful class suck s s u c k car crash game i think we mentioned drathetic and sharknado game sharknado yeah it's like everyone everyone it's awful, but you have to watch. I like bad pizza. All right, let's go bad pizza game. It's a bad pizza game, unless somebody can top that.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I have a... Where am I looking here? Baltimore, Philly. Oh, yeah. I have the Ravens by six and a half. That might drop three points if they suck tonight. You got that exactly. I said six.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Six and a half. All right. You would take Baltimore. You like Baltimore, Green Bay right now on a teaser. Or said six. Six and a half. All right. You would take Baltimore. You like Baltimore-Green Bay right now on a teaser. Or Kansas City. I think Baltimore's D is good. We forget this every year, and then we remember it around week 16.
Starting point is 00:34:34 This is when defenses start to matter, and you start winning ugly games in 16 to 11, 2017, 17-10. Yeah. The Ravens are kind of built for those games. I'm with you. Definitely afraid of them. Good special teams,
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Starting point is 00:35:48 It could have been anyone. Yeah, it could have been Ralph Macchio. It was all James Dixon. Yeah, he did it. So I sit him down. I'm like, baby doll, congratulations. I build him up. You did it.
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Starting point is 00:36:36 that'll be one of the most fun email chains that they get. Then we leave the country. Yeah. Jacksonville and Houston. We should have thrown this in the terrible game section. I have the Texans by seven. I hate this game. You're going to get this. I don't want to watch this game. I said eight and a half.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I thought it'd be higher. It's six. This is a good game for my theory when the last three weeks of the season, how they should get wonky with the announcers. Like this is like a good game for a stand-up comedian. Or like Jeff Ross is the third man in the booth or whatever you want to do or use any, like just do something mm-hmm like this is like a good game for a stand-up comedian right or like jeff ross is
Starting point is 00:37:06 the third man in the booth or whatever you want to do or use any like just do something to spruce this up it's texans jaguars kathy griffin and anderson cooper neither fan base is going to be upset that you used an announcer gimmick for this the jaguars are gonna be like hey man i'm trying to watch the jaguars i don't know why chris rock is in the booth like do something experiment it's a good idea it's a good idea or c Or CBS, they have all those white actor stars in their forties and fifties. We get Kevin James game. All the CSI.
Starting point is 00:37:32 We get Kevin James. Oh, that's pretty good. Yeah. Oh, the CSI. A couple of the CSI cast members. Yeah. How about Bob Barker? Bring him back.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Is he still alive? He's 93, I think today. Bob still probably gets raging erections every once in a while there was one horny dude man no i think he was neutered uh years ago uh pittsburgh at cincinnati uh the last early game boy these early games don't really uh light my there are a couple then my eyeballs on fire steelers by two and a half i battled on on fire. Steelers by two and a half. I battled on this.
Starting point is 00:38:06 It's either three or two and a half. It's three and a half. I said three, so I'm going to get that one. Okay. Good game. Solid. I thought this was one of those since our season sucked, but let's win this one.
Starting point is 00:38:18 For this one? Yeah. Pittsburgh beat them early in the year, 24-16. This could be the next sequel to Perfect Strangers. Oh, yeah, that's right. I forgot this. He'll try to take somebody out, right? Yeah, because we're not going to see him in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:38:29 He didn't play the first Steelers game. Right. But you know who else didn't play? Le'Veon Bell, right? He was out. And that guy, I'm not just saying this because I had him on two fantasy teams that advanced in the playoffs. Like way more points than anyone else in fantasy.
Starting point is 00:38:43 47 fantasy points in a non-PPR. He's just amazing. The way he gets his giddy up going, like he runs in place and then lowers his shoulder. I think he's a stealth MVP candidate. You think so? Yeah, the MVP candidates, I'm lukewarm on all of them. Stafford, Matt Ryan, Derek Carr, Mark Mosley.
Starting point is 00:39:04 I don't like any of them. Mark Mo... Who? He won in 1982. The last time we didn't have an MVP, Mark Mosley. Oh, right. That's right. Mark Mosley won in 1982 as a field goal kicker who kicked it straight ahead, not even soccer style. Wow. So these odds have shifted a lot. Oh, I looked for odds today. I couldn't find them. I just found them.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Who are the favorites? Matt Ryan, plus 350. I don't agree with that. Matt Stafford, 4-1. No. Matt Brady. Tom Brady, 4-1. No. Zeke, 5-1. No. Derek Carr, 8. No. Aaron Rodgers,
Starting point is 00:39:34 10. Dak Prescott, 15. Aaron Rodgers, 10 is... You could make a case, like, instead of betting on the Packers to win the NFC North, you bet the Aaron Rodgers MVP odds at 10-1. None of these guys have had three bad games. What were the ads for Le'Veon Bell? So Dak Prescott 15-1 and Le'Veon Bell 20-1.
Starting point is 00:39:52 If they run the slate and they get a three seed and they did that without Roethlisberger for a couple games, I think he's been the best four-months player. He is phenomenal. I mean, I've never seen a running back like that. Honestly. Just that phenomenal. I mean, I've never seen a running back like that. Honestly. Just that style. Fantasy playoffs.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I looked at the stats were low yesterday on fantasy. The stats were low? Well, just like the numbers. There wasn't a lot of guys over 20 points. Not on team salvation, they weren't. On your team, there was. The number two and number three guys in fantasy yesterday for points in our league, care to guess?
Starting point is 00:40:25 Bell was first. This is just all my never-ending quest to prove fantasy football is the dumbest activity that all of us do. And we should all stop. Who's second? I don't know. I'll give you a hint. Yeah. They played against each other in the same game.
Starting point is 00:40:42 And they're both running backs. Oh, McCoy? I'm talking about Bilal Powell and Carlos Hyde. Oh, I see what you're saying. Those were our two and three point getters. Yeah. Powell went for a buck. Was he a waiver pickup?
Starting point is 00:40:56 Maybe. Maybe a dollar, yeah. Carlos Hyde, 15 bucks. Yeah, he got drafted. Yeah, right. Ridiculous. Real quick, week 12, the leading receivers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:05 As far as receptions go, Michael Thomas, Tyreek Hill, Marquez Wilson, Mohamed Sanu, Jamison Crowder, Terrell Williams, Adam Thielen, and then Evans and Nelson were good. So if you had fantasy playoffs yesterday and you had Russell Wilson, which I did on my team that didn't make the playoffs. Yeah. It's a serial killer murder where he's
Starting point is 00:41:27 just, there's strings of Russell Wilson murders across the country. Millions and millions and millions. Des, same thing. Julio Jones not playing. Gordon was a big one. His leg got bent backwards. Drew Brees was awful. I hate fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:41:43 I'm against our friends Powell and Bartell and barton i have a uh he has brady and steve smith what what's a good what's a good lead for me brady and steve smith is 103 points a comfortable lead do something today all right but i'm winning 167 to 64 you think i'm okay oh i saw what you did there look at that oh my god 167 points ridiculous who was it jeremy hill three weeks for me oh wow hill let me go a big matt ryan i hope craig powell's listening because he just got served i've heard sorry craig powell that's the way to know you're not sorry at all that's the way to beat your tongue in your cheek i you totally were excited now i have damage check you have damage and i kicked them out so it's gonna? And I kicked him out, so it's going to be bad.
Starting point is 00:42:25 You kicked him out? Well, I kicked him out two years, remember? So now we're made up. Who does Damoshek have? What players? I think actually people care about this. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Kyle, you care about this? Yeah, Kyle cares. Kyle, don't lie. You don't have to lie. Let me see. Damoshek has... So you have... Your best guys are Le'Veon Bell.
Starting point is 00:42:45 I just need Le'Veon Bell, and that'll be great because he's a big Steeler fan. He has Breeze. He has the aforementioned Carlos Hyde. He has Beckham and Antonio Brown. Oh, that's rough. That's pretty good. That's rough.
Starting point is 00:42:55 That's pretty good. He has trouble with the second running back position, but... Okay. Yeah, that's it. And your favorite, Tyreek Hill. That's a good battle. I'm excited. So whoever wins that gets the opportunity
Starting point is 00:43:05 to vote somebody out of our league. this is the semifinal, so. Oh. Hench is in the other side with Jamie and Tall John. This is great. We love it. This is great.
Starting point is 00:43:15 All right. I might vote myself out. I think I'm done with fantasy. Late afternoon game. I really hate it. I hate it more than I've ever hated it. Just take Le'Veon Bell. It's all you ever need to do.
Starting point is 00:43:23 New Orleans at Arizona. What was the best early game? I don't know. I hate it more than I've ever hated it. Just take Le'Veon Bell. It's all you ever need to do. New Orleans at Arizona. What was the best early game? I don't know. Detroit, New York. Yeah, Giants-Lions. It'll be an awful, non-entertaining game, but it'll be at least compelling. It'll be the bad pizza game. New Orleans at Arizona.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Cards by three. You get this. I said four. It was three. It went to two and a half. We could have thrown this in a Who Cares game. Yeah, right. I said four. It was three. It went to two and a half. We could have thrown this in a who cares game. Yeah, right. In the who cares game.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I'm just trying to see if there's any way Arizona makes it. New Orleans at Seattle and at the Rams. No, stop it. They would have to upset Seattle. Stop it. San Francisco at Atlanta. Oh, another terrible one. I have Atlanta by nine.
Starting point is 00:44:01 No. I hit this exactly. I said 13. Really? Yeah. San Francisco. They can I had this exactly. I said 13. Really? Yeah, San Francisco. They can't go on the road and get less. I'm telling you, Vegas is getting slaughtered by the same teams. Week 15, though, is gay.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Have we had the wonky late November, early December weekend yet? We haven't. Maybe not. So you think like- In Herm? One thing about the NFL, you never know that's true that's true that's true chris let's go to commercial who did andrew ballpark franks last night who is that even andrew ballpark franks what was the other one you sent me
Starting point is 00:44:39 clam crowder oh yeah yeah they had a little bit of clam crowder. Oh, I get so excited. It's great. I love it. I'm going to miss them so much. I really enjoy it. But Atlanta beats San Francisco. Seattle beats the Rams. Those are the two big ones so far.
Starting point is 00:44:54 But let's keep going. All right. What's the last really stupid upset loss we've had? Like the one that killed teases and parlays all across America. All right. Let me see. It's been a couple weeks. Was it Tampa beating KC?
Starting point is 00:45:10 It has been a long time. Tampa beating KC, I think, was the last super wonky one. Yeah, but even that was like five or six, right? Eh, I think it was higher than that, but. Really? That knocked some people out. Jets almost beat the Patriots. That would have been the one.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Yeah, we're due. I'm just saying we're due. Seattle, Tampa Bay. A lot of people had Seattle. Oh, yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, we're due. We're due for something stupid. All right, New England at Denver.
Starting point is 00:45:37 This could be something stupid. I don't feel good about this. I already dismissed the Broncos earlier. I know I'm going to regret it. I had the Pats by three and a half. I think that's what we should be favored by. I said dismissed the Broncos earlier and now I'm going to regret it. I had the Pats by three and a half. I think that's what we should be favored by.
Starting point is 00:45:48 I said four and a half. It's three. They should have given us a half point. Another half? Yeah. Maybe after tonight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Broncos can't score and cannot run the ball anymore for whatever reason. I'd be surprised if they had more than nine wins, Denver. I really would. New England at KC and reason. I'd be surprised if they had more than nine wins, Denver. I really would.
Starting point is 00:46:07 New England at KC and Oakland, I think that's one and two. I really do. Yeah. I liked how Tlaib defended his teammate. Yeah, that was nice.
Starting point is 00:46:15 If I'm Harry Douglas and Tlaib's like, I'll see you in Atlanta, I actually don't want to see a keep Tlaib. Right, yeah. Like he shot himself in the last...
Starting point is 00:46:23 Anyone who shoots themselves, I don't want, mad at want that to be one of my rules Oakland at San Diego Raiders by three Rivers is unless he's got something really wrong with him he's gonna have one more moment during these
Starting point is 00:46:42 last three weeks you nailed it. It is three. I said four and a half. I thought it would be higher. Chargers had the year from hell, huh? Now Gordon's out. Boza might be out.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Yeah. Oakland won 34-31 October 9th. Oakland at San Diego, Indian at Denver. I think it's going to come out that Rivers has a torn tendon in his elbow or something. Yeah, there's something wrong with him. He's been playing terrible for a month. I mentioned that 15 interceptions ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Week 12. Terrible interceptions. Tampa Bay at Dallas. Here we go. You're up one. Oh, is this Sunday night? This is Sunday night. Hold on.
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Starting point is 00:48:17 Night games. All right. Love it. Love it when the boys play Sunday night. I have my dumbest theory that I've had in a couple weeks. Go ahead. Do you think it's bad that the Cowboys are playing so many signature games?
Starting point is 00:48:28 Always. Night games, Thanksgiving. It's like these other teams, they get up on it. They're on TV two, three times a year. Yeah. This is not a new thing for me. And the Cowboys, it's like old hat now. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Oh, you think it's bad? I think it's bad for you. I think for, and you know as a Patriots fan, all teams get up for the Patriots and the Cowboys and then put it under the lights, and it makes it that much worse. I had the Cowboys by four and a half over Tampa. All right, you're going to lose this one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:54 I might lose it too, but I said seven and a half. It's seven. That's too high. You think it's too high? Yeah, that's not enough respect. We were in the hotel room yesterday getting ready for my daughter's game. And ESPN was on and they had this Jameis profile
Starting point is 00:49:11 about what a great leader he was. Right. And we watched the whole thing and my daughter got really into it. She did? Jameis is like a preacher. Like he gives these speeches in the locker rooms and they had all these interviews with these guys.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Like, man, that guy guy I just believe in that guy when he say when he the whole it was like five minutes of it and by the end of it both of us were like man this guy
Starting point is 00:49:31 his teammates love him right I don't know I'd be careful he's big on the whole we got a family this is about family right here
Starting point is 00:49:39 let's all stick together like he has the same beats but he's he's really good at it we'll have them fired up for this one. This will be a tough game. Jameis beat us on a goal line play last year against one of our terrible backups.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I can't even remember which one it was at the time. But yeah, step it up, Cowboys. Win this game. Trent Dilfer believes in Jameis' intangibles. He loves it, man. He loves it when you make eye contact, when you're genuine firm handshake he didn't make eye contact with the clerk when he was stealing those crab legs no he was looking away that was it what's our teaser he was hungry well let's do the let's do the monday night disaster all right well
Starting point is 00:50:19 this is it we're tied uh going into this so i think you're gonna hit this exact. I had the skins by three at home over the Panthers. No, you didn't. In fact, we tie now. It remains tied. This is Carolina at Washington. I said six. You said three. It's four and a half. Four and a half? Four and a half. So we tie again. And now after 15 weeks.
Starting point is 00:50:42 I don't know what to do with the Panthers. Six, six, three. This is the Josh Norman bowl. Yeah. This is it. and now after 15 weeks. I don't know what to do with the Panthers. It's 6-6-3. This is the Josh Norman bowl. Yeah. This is it. And if Josh Norman covers Deshaun Jackson, there's going to be an explosion of... That'll be good. Oh, it's going to be nuts.
Starting point is 00:50:54 He had another long one. Yeah, Deshaun, yeah. He's had more long touchdowns than anyone in the history of the league. He backed into the end zone for that one, too. Except for two guys. Is there anyone who was named more poorly than Josh Norman? Does he not look like a Josh?
Starting point is 00:51:09 No, he doesn't look like a Josh. Josh is Jimmy's butler. Yeah, he does not look like a Josh. We forgot to mention Jeff Fisher. The fact that... No, we didn't. Well, we forgot to mention that he's 31-45-1 and that they haven't won more than seven games with him yet.
Starting point is 00:51:26 And this was not the way to get football going in L.A. We also forgot to mention— What's the point of signing an extension if every article you see afterwards says, don't get us wrong, this doesn't in any way mean that he's going to make it after this year? Well, you know what the extension was. Yeah. They obviously told him three, four years ago what the plan was,
Starting point is 00:51:43 moving to L.A. I'm sure there's some sort of legal—to me, this is a payoff. Yeah, but mean, just they obviously told him three, four years ago what the plan was. Right. Moving to LA. Yeah. I'm sure there's some sort of legal. This is like, to me, this is a payoff. Yeah, but so what? Was part of the plan losing as much as he? No, no, no. But I'm saying, I think. This is relocation fee?
Starting point is 00:51:55 It's his relocation fee. Okay. It says, hey, Jeff, remember that time when one of our owners got a little tipsy and he told you the whole plan for how we're going to screw up St. Louis? And you're like, I'm in. I'll just, whatever I can do. Here's your two-year payoff for helping us out. And then they get rid of him.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Last thing. PowerPool. New England, Dallas, KC, top three. Did you put anyone else in there? No. I'm really not happy with the cowboys right now but you know those i put kc at number one divisions lions minus 320 pack plus 260 so all right wow that's kind of what it was last week too falcons minus 320 bucks plus 240 pit minus 250, Ball plus 200, Texans minus 225,
Starting point is 00:52:45 Tennessee plus 180. I think Tennessee's my favorite one. KC minus 250, Oakland plus 210. The Texans are like 4-0 in the division though, right? Or something stupid. They are. But they do play Tennessee in the last week.
Starting point is 00:53:02 But don't you think they're going to gain a game on Tennessee this week? If Houston blows one of the next two. Right. And KC goes one and one as well. Then that last week's for all the marbles. Oh, that'll be fun. So it just seems like those odds are a little.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Let's play for marbles. A little off. All the marbles. That's it. You don't like the pack plus 260. Oh, well, we can't bet any more on that. Are you kidding me? Nah, I'm just-
Starting point is 00:53:25 We're gonna get crushed. We're just talking about value. We have the Lions. I don't know. I don't know what to make of that Lions-Giants game. You are rattled today. I know. This is a rattled-
Starting point is 00:53:35 I'm sorry. You're very confident. I didn't plan on this at all. This is, the Giants, for you and for me, are our worst nightmare. When the Giants fans are happy, we're sad. It's not good. We're unhappy. I know.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I'm a whiny little 11 and 2 bitch. I don't like it. We just do. When the Giants fans are happy, we're sad. It's not good. We're unhappy. I know. I'm a whiny little 11 and 2 bitch. I don't like it. We just do not like the Giants fans. How many movie screeners have you watched? I haven't watched any, but we got a, it was an influx last week. Which ones did you see? I saw Jackie. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:54:00 The Natalie Portman as Jackie. Oh, I thought she was Jackie Robinson. No, she's Jackie. Is this the sequel. Oh, I thought she was Jackie Robinson. No, she's Jackie. Oh, okay. Natalie Portman is Jackie Robinson would be amazing. She could do it all. That should be her next one. Just another Jackie.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Yeah. I can't imagine singing in the theater. Right. It's so easy to watch these at home. Like, I just think, I don't know why the pay-per-view hasn't taken off yet. Like, there was news last week about itunes yeah right might have this deal where they just new releases are on itunes right away and it's like i don't know if like for us we have kids like do you really that you're gonna waste the night night out the date night babysitter and
Starting point is 00:54:39 the whole thing they go see jackie in the theater i don't see it wasn't this very good bunch too didn't uh cruz's ex-wife do this yeah she she's that was that tv movie i don't see it. Wasn't this done a bunch too? Didn't Cruz's ex-wife do this? Yeah, she's- Was that a TV movie? I don't know. I feel like we've seen this enough. She's very good. She is?
Starting point is 00:54:51 She definitely hammers it down. Listen, we need some good movies, so the ratings are somewhat respectable for my cousin's hosting gig. Well, he's in trouble in that respect. Really? That one isn't good? Well, there's no- The Denzel one, maybe?
Starting point is 00:55:06 There's no Leo story. Right. Unless the Denzel one gets momentum, which I haven't watched that one yet. But we watched Manchester by the Sea last night. You cried. Didn't cry. No. Didn't cry. Not a comedy. Oh, it's not? Not a comedy. Oh, forget it. Not a lot
Starting point is 00:55:22 of laughs. It's a rough one. It's tough. they definitely sent you to dark places i thought it was really good though i still think moonlight's the best movie i've seen who's in moonlight nobody nobody you've heard of i have to look it up moonlight's my number one but i i still have a lot to go real quick i know that so what's your best oscar scenario then for jimmy what do you mean well just like what subplot. Every year to get the ratings going, it's got to be something. Like last year was, can Leo do it?
Starting point is 00:55:49 Or you have like big controversy. This year, I don't know if there's going to be the controversy. Well, right. I mean, for the Emmys, you saw his mother made peanut butter and jelly. We're thinking of switching to ham and cheese. Nice. Do you pitch that yet?
Starting point is 00:56:00 Shouldn't that be enough? Do you pitch that yet? I don't know. I don't know. It's going to be good. How many tickets is Baby going to ask for? He's like, Baby's already like, Baby, this is not the Emmys. You guys think, you know, these actors, they're scared.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Everyone's not celebrating the show they're with. The first three rows, you're not going to get laughs from the people in the first three rows. They're really uptight, and this means something if they get an Oscar. They get a $20 million picture next year, so they will not be laughing but good luck baby he said that basically yeah it's a tough room thanks for the wisdom i think it's the toughest room that's got have you been i've never been it just seems like a tough room yeah because first of all not you know you have a huge percentage of non-Americans in there. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:56:46 So like pop culture jokes, stuff like that might not fly. A bunch of uptight actors and directors. Yeah. I don't know. It's not like a laugh a minute. On the other hand, Jimmy's been so good at playing with and off celebrities, and it's a room that loves celebrities. So I don't feel like they'll think he's an outsider.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Right. It'll be good. It'll be a nice test for him. It's going to be good. And when is his, and he's got a kid coming through. February 26th. Oh yeah, the kids in April.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Yeah, there's a lot going on here. A lot going on. We're doing a bachelor special when we get back from break. Bachelor special? Yeah. They upped the minorities this year. Oh, they did?
Starting point is 00:57:22 Yeah. Yeah. The four black contestants this year. And they're still around? This kid, the Arkansas scenario might minorities this year. Oh, they did? Yeah. Yeah. The four black contestants this year. And they're still around? This Arkansas scenario might happen this year. The final four. That should be a sports book. Good, let's see it.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Sports books should add that. Why don't they do that? You can bet on Dancing with the Stars. Will we finally have a black bachelor contestant make the final four? Oh, interesting. They've had this show 30 times. It's been all white final fourours or maybe Asian or something, but never black.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Right. Never happened. I like how you're thinking, Bill. All right. What do you got to put? Cousin Sal, sure thing. Check on us Friday at noon Eastern. I was two and one yesterday, six and three over the last three weeks.
Starting point is 00:58:01 I'm in a groove. Jimmy Kimmel Live Tonight, Jennifer Lawrence, Phantogram on the outdoor stage. Later in the week, David Spade, Metallica, and Blake Shelton. And I'm at The Cousin Sal on Twitter. That's it. I have a prediction that Jennifer Lawrence, Chris Pratt movie. I could see you crying at that movie after a terrible Cowboys playoff loss.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Just tell me when to watch it. It feels like Blood Diamond 2. Is this the 10-year anniversary of Blood Diamond? We should have a Blood Diamond. Let's this the 10-year anniversary of Blood Diamond? We should have a little party. Let's have a party. Was that January 07? Yeah, you're right. Oh, wow.
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