The Bill Simmons Podcast - Ep. 26: Week 11 NFL w/ Cousin Sal
Episode Date: November 16, 2015HBO's Bill Simmons brings on Cousin Sal to discuss Week 11 NFL lines, Ronda Rousey's shocking defeat (3:50 mark), Giants-Pats (7:00), Manning's injury (17:13), KC's AFC West contention (20:20), Romo's... return (29:13), Greg Hardy's WWE career(30:30), Cards-Seahawks (36:50), Cam's TD dance (40:01), Bengals-Cards (50:03) and two must-see TV shows. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Very excited for this one.
I'm more excited for this Monday pod
than any Monday pod we've done so far.
Why?
Incredible Pats Giants game.
Your Cowboys have completely fallen apart.
We didn't even have to talk about that.
The biggest upset in female sports history the door
just opened can you talk for a second while i close the door uh yeah by the way the big upset
obviously first of all how is nine to one the biggest upset in ufc has ufc history it didn't
even say women's nine to one the sport's been around for for nobody's ever been a nine to one
favorite like yeah well that sounds crazy to me, but everyone reported that.
And the biggest upset, not that we'll even spend a minute on this,
New Mexico was a 39.5-point underdog to Boise State football.
In one?
Saturday, in one.
What is going on?
It's the world's ending?
65-1 odds.
And the Lions beat the Packers in Lambeau?
Yeah, right.
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All right.
Let's talk about let's talk about Rousey first.
Really quick.
Did you pay for that fight?
So, well, it depends how you mean.
No, I didn't.
I didn't because I figured it was going to be over.
I was going to catch the six-second, the vine that was going around of her knockout in the first round.
But I put together a substantial parlay with two football winners, like Michigan, Michigan State.
Then I had Golden State money line over the Nets,
which as Rousey was coming to the ring, they should have lost in regulation,
but they won in overtime.
I actually saw that game.
You did, right?
It was a ludicrous win.
Right.
The Nets win that game 99 out of 100 times.
Dream on Green takes the three-pounder.
It was stupid.
So I'm like, that's it.
I got this Ronda Rousey.
And then she just got the crap kicked out of her
like no one's better. I don't know enough about
MMA to know what happened in that fight,
but it really did seem like she had
no game plan whatsoever. It reminded me
of Mike Tyson in Japan just stumbling
around with his two buddies in the corner.
That's what it was. This girl just hit her
over and over again with her left.
But that's kind of what we always thought that
MMA would be.
Didn't we always think,
oh, a good boxer will take out
an all-around fighter
just out of quickness and everything?
I know she hit her,
she knocked her out with a spinning back kick
or something, but...
Which didn't totally connect.
I don't know how that...
I think her hitting her head on the canvas.
Yeah, but she got pounded with the fist before that.
But why can't...
I don't understand enough about MMA,
and I'm sure this will make people mad,
because MMA people don't like anyone talking about MMA
unless you know all the moves and stuff.
Don't comment on the...
Don't comment on MMA.
No.
I don't understand if...
I thought the person on the ground could always beat the boxer.
Like, they just have to get them on the ground,
and then they can do stuff.
If they could get them on the ground, yeah.
But why couldn't Rousey just figure out how to get her?
She went toe-to-toe.
Yeah.
It seemed like she was totally happy to box her, which I didn't get.
She's beaten a hell of a lot of women before, just toe-to-toe.
But this, you know, she's a boxing champ she's going against.
Well, I'm very excited for the rematch.
This has to be the greatest thing that could have happened in the UFC.
Right.
And the other thing, we talked about it. We were texting about this. to be the greatest thing that could have happened in the ufc right and the other thing we talked about we were texting about this i did the phil sims we talked
about it yesterday when we were texting i get tons of tweets and everything i'd say we have ruined
football for people who have to watch phil sims now twice a week we just ruined it well phil sims i
it might be over for him really it really might really might be over. The Pats drive yesterday,
he talked about how Tom Brady played it perfectly.
The first play of the drive was a throw to two guys
and the guy just dropped the interception.
The game's over.
It was like one of the five worst throws of his career.
Yeah, it was bad.
Because if he didn't get it,
the guy behind him was getting it.
He just lets that go.
So we talked about yesterday on texting,
and Sal, we talked about this,
that UFC, it's like they build up these invincible champs,
and then right around the third or fourth fight where they're totally invincible,
they just get upset and they lose.
And we should remember this for gambling purposes.
Yeah, and I think it's because they're on their game, UFC,
because they're not like pro boxing where you'll spread out a rematch or or just a great
fight for what could have been a great fight I don't know if it was ever going to be great
Pacquiao Mayweather but yeah that took 10 years like UFC you have an opponent then you have another
one four months later and that's it and like you can't go two years without being undefeated yeah
it does seem in boxing it seems like the right person wins almost all the time.
Right.
You might get the lucky punch every once in a while.
But for the most part, Mayweather's going to beat Pacquiao eight or nine out of ten times.
UFC does seem more random.
Right.
But Rousey was messed up after that fight.
Her face was really beat up.
Felt bad for her.
I think they should fight.
The rematch should be like a Black Friday thing.
They put hair extensions on.
They just go for the last hoverboard on the shelf.
That's it.
Last woman standing.
Do it.
All right, Giants-Pats.
Tough spot for you.
Two teams you hate.
I know, I know.
I was like, the podcast will be so much better if the Patriots lose,
but how could I root for these Giants?
I don't understand how Brady was able to pull off a final drive
with no Deion Lewis and no Edelman.
Here we go.
It's just amazing.
I mean, granted, the draft started with a dropped interception,
so I'm not going to praise him too much,
but that had to have been one of the only drives in his career to win a game
where he had no third down back.
The third down back thing
is a real thing. I don't think people have paid
enough attention to it. But you have Amendola,
fill that void. You have LaFell and
Gronkowski. That's as good or better than
most teams, I think. Amendola
and LaFell? Sure, why not? That's a
below average one-two combo.
Look at these other teams. What are they doing it
with? That's true. I guess it's as good
as Carolina. Theyed and Brandon Cook.
They took out Gronk.
They're triple teaming him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Look, you're king of the hill.
You're the best team by far.
Stop it.
You are.
It's a long season.
It's not a long season.
This long season is over for many of these teams.
I think you're on top.
I think you're using anger to you there.
Well, it's always going to be like this.
What am I going to do?
The Giants lost.
That's good for you.
Good use of time, Tom Coughlin.
They ran like four plays in 19 seconds.
Incredible.
How do you not know you're leaving Tom Brady too much time there?
Why do you run the quick pass timing pattern with 2.06 left until the time?
Yeah.
It was impossible for us to get the ball as fast as we got the ball.
We had the two-minute warning and a timeout.
First down with 2.06 left.
The first down play has to get to the
two-minute warning. Just has to. I don't care what the play
is. You have to get to the two-minute warning.
Second down play, you run it. We have
to call a timeout. And then
third down, whatever
happens, it shouldn't
have played out the way it played out.
That was terrible.
It was bad. I actually had a lot of faith that they were going to screw that up.
I remember thinking to myself, if anyone can give us the ball back with like 100 seconds
left, it's the Giants.
And they did.
I get dozens of these, so you must get thousands of these.
People telling you, oh, you're so arrogant thinking you're better than all these coaches.
Well, of course we're not.
We're not good at scheming and we're not good at player placement. Stuff like that will never be as good as the these coaches. Well, of course we're not. We're not good at scheming, and we're not good at player placement.
Stuff like that will never be as good as the current coaches.
But as far as time management goes, I think we are.
I don't think it is being arrogant.
I think we watch every game.
We watch eight games in the morning.
We watch thousands of games.
That's what we have over these other coaches.
Or else, what's the explanation otherwise?
I think we're both better than Rob Ryan, though.
Yeah.
I really do think I could have a better defense.
I think the Saints agree with us. You just give me like a week to be like,
alright guys, so Kirk Cousins,
so here's what we're going to do. I feel like we can do better.
They let him go. They let him go like an hour
before this podcast tape. But he says
he'll be working in five minutes.
Well, shouldn't one of these
TV networks throw him on immediately?
Yeah. Couldn't he be with Berman?
I think he could do that.
Berman, teach, Rob!
He's got to look for it,
unless Chipotle gives him a better offer.
I don't know where he's going to work, this guy.
Well, here's what I think with time management.
You know how when we're getting ready in the morning
and our kids are going to school,
everybody's running around,
trying to feed the kids quick,
did you remember your knapsack, all that stuff,
and then occasionally the wife will leave the house
and somebody's knapsack is still in the house.
Right.
Maybe that's what it's like for Tom Coughlin on the sideline.
He's trying to figure out all these different things.
He's like, oh, I totally forgot to not run that play to the two-minute warning.
I'm so stupid.
I like that.
Yeah.
He forgot he has kids that are going to school.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I understand.
Did you think that was a catch?
No.
No, I don't think so.
Here's the thing.
I don't think it was based on everything else.
I think at some point it should be a catch.
They need to change it.
Are you okay with two feet down in possession?
Because I'm okay with that well what i don't understand is
so a running back is is getting tackled yeah and puts the ball over the goal line for a split
second it's a touchdown because he's a runner yeah yeah so i guess it makes sense in principle
that to catch the ball you have to establish the possession of the ball right and then you're a runner right it would seem like beckham had the ball longer than cam newton did
that play yesterday when you reach the ball over the goal line for a split second and that's the
part i don't understand i know i know one thing should be a bigger touch yeah i just want to
understand it like do you know when you're legally parked like if you're six inches from the curb
and your wheels are turned the right way or whatever,
like, yeah, okay, I'm legally parked.
I know what that looks like.
I just want to know what a catch looks like.
And I'm okay with two feet down and possession.
Now, they say that changes the record books and everything, but who gives a crap?
Like there's so many pass interference calls that weren't made 20 years ago.
Like, don't you?
I mean, I would say the rule's working a little
bit because when i watched it i never thought it was a catch but that's because in your head because
in my head we had had other instances of that not being a catch i was like that's not a catch
they're gonna overrule this right what was weird was the refs really wanted to make it a catch
because they all get in there screwing the patriots let's be honest they tried they looked
at it there was think they were?
It was some really shady calls. Was Goodell in the house?
Oh, come on. Was he in there though?
Was he at the game? I think he was, wasn't he?
Look.
Which calls? I don't remember. I saw the
Giants getting to Brady.
There was one pass interference where Malcolm Butler
didn't even touch Beckham.
No, that was bad. Butler versus
Beckham was fantastic.
That was fun to watch.
So I had my daughter's last soccer game of first season was yesterday.
And it was at 220.
Pat's Giants started at 120.
So what do you do if you're me?
Oh, man.
You know, these days, I watch my kid's flag football game.
And I had the phone.
And I was just watching the end of the Cowboys game on the phone and i was just watching the end of the
cowboys game on the app i was just watching the streaming yeah so i decided to go to the soccer
game because i thought from karma purposes if i just said sorry z i'm not going right then the
so i went and i was like i'm not gonna check the score oh wow and um shrifty's there uh our friend
shrifty giants fan and at one point he's giving me the upright
check and we're down 2010 and but we got in the car and i got to see the whole fourth quarter
and then i went back and watched right and uh the edelman yeah it's bad it's not good it's not good
you're freaking on it's not good i don't not good. You're freaking undefeated. It's not good.
I don't want to hear about your injuries.
It's not good.
Go ahead.
I think the Bengals are in the driver's seat now.
The Pats, I've never felt worse about it.
I don't know an undefeated team in mid-November of my life.
It's really silly to say that you're not in the driver's seat, but let's take it by
conference.
Why aren't the Bengals in the driver's seat?
Which two AFC teams are you most afraid to play in the AFC championship?
Is it the Bengals?
Definitely not the Broncos.
Or is it the Steelers?
I'm not even including the Broncos anymore.
The Steelers, Ben Roethlisberger, his foot.
I thought it had to be amputated a week ago.
I watched the game.
I was like, my God, he's going to lose his foot.
It's going to be like Kerry Von Erich.
He's going to have to have a fake boot.
And then he's back.
And then he said today it was because he drank a lot of milk.
He drank milk.
Yeah.
He drank a lot of milk.
Wow.
Yeah.
So that was good.
Good to know that one.
Greatest relief performance by a quarterback ever.
And we had like 208, like something crazy coming on and relief.
So they were obviously trying to get through that game without playing him just because
the Browns gave up three weeks ago.
Right.
The Browns gave up three weeks ago and every week we don't bet against them.
Yeah, but remember we said they were a good first-half team?
Yeah.
Now they're not even that anymore.
Yeah.
Don't worry.
Add the Steelers and Packers on a Moneyline parlay that lost.
Don't worry about it.
I have a feeling any parlays and teases lost this week.
Well, here's the thing.
You and I, in the middle of the week, you're like,
Hey, we should take all the mid-range dogs on the money line.
We should do it.
And I was like, great, let's do it.
And I was even going to bug you about it yesterday, but I was like, you know what?
Rousey lost.
I got to go with the short things.
I got to go Packers, and I should have stopped myself there on a money line with whoever.
And that just killed me.
But let's take a look at those mid-range underdogs.
Jaguars.
Can you give us the Phil Simms setup, though?
Go ahead. You do it. What is it? Sal, we talked about those mid-range underdogs. Jaguars. Can you give us the Phil Simms setup, though? Go ahead.
You do it.
What is it?
Sal, we talked about those mid-range underdogs earlier in the week, and we were talking about it.
Jaguars, Lions.
We talked about the Titans, Bears, Dolphins, Giants.
We wouldn't have done the Lions, though.
Well, the Lions were six.
Why not?
Did you put the Dolphins in there?
Yeah.
Those six.
Four of them won.
They were almost all three to one odds. Chiefs chiefs were on there but the chief sign just dropped
but initially the chiefs were on there yeah yeah because they were like six i figured it out five
out of those seven winners we would have netted 3.71 million dollars wow split not not like a
fan duel thing we'd have to we'd have to split it but that's what we would have won so we were
saying that if we hit three of the seven, we'd win
because all the odds would be like plus 180 and higher.
And then it turned out to be more than that.
The Broncos thing.
So yet again, this happened last year too.
Peyton Manning was awful.
And then Monday morning, Adam Schefter, sources tell Adam Schefter,
and there's some injury that explains why Peyton
Manning was so terrible and then it happened again today last time this happened they said
he had like a it was like a torn quad muscle right and then the Denver beat reporter said
no no it's not a torn quad my sources say it's just a strain and there was like a he said she
said thing about so it does seem like Manning and i don't blame him for this but every time he's terrible all of a sudden the injury news comes out 12 hours later no but it was
on it came out like friday or saturday or the line went from six and a half to four because it came
out that he was a little banged up his ribs and then now this but now it's like he's torn yeah
he's got a torn plantar fasciitis thing going on in his foot he had it the whole time why do they
even have injury reports?
Right, I know.
Everybody's hurt.
Yeah.
Everybody's... But just tell us.
Tell us.
Why not tell us earlier?
This is why gambling's not legal,
because there'd be a class action suit
against people that bet the Broncos.
You're right.
And there should be.
But let me ask you,
is Peyton Manning the most overrated
and underrated player of all time?
I put Derek Jeter,
and you're Larry Bird in there too.
Larry Bird?
What are you talking about?
That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
I can't believe I got a reaction. What are you talking about?
Most overrated and underrated.
Yeah.
People say he's the greatest of all time.
He won three titles.
Is he the greatest of all time?
He won three straight MVPs.
Everyone in Boston says he's top two top two
players the greatest forward ever until lebron started playing 100 games a year it's ridiculous
all right so so it's not liar bird is that the most over and underrated i think the cheater case
could is not bad and payton's right there cal ripken jr think, is up there. Interesting. Over and under.
Interesting.
With Manning, though, I mean, are you blown away with surprise and shock that Peyton Manning couldn't last 10 weeks?
No, no.
He's 40 years old.
He's had four neck surgeries, and he can't move anymore.
I mean, this was where this was headed.
Sure, but two weeks ago he demolished
the packers who are no longer great as we'd say but you know he was back like this football's
week to week with this stuff i know but remember we were saying how they should just not even play
him till november he's manning sit him out yeah just sit him out september october right try to
just go go four and four right and then try to go 10 weeks with Manning.
I think that's the move with him.
Yeah.
It's like when the Astros with Clemens those last two years.
Remember they would just bring him in in June?
They were smart about it.
Maybe he should be on a pitch count like Harvey was for a little bit.
Like four passes, that's it.
Am I allowed to start getting excited about the chiefs afc west bet that
we made in august for plus 300 i don't know what i'm not allowed to get excited about that too bad
what are there's three back but they've beaten denver right and they really should have beat
them that for it was at that yeah thursday night game week two three or yeah so they split with
them yeah san diego is a catastrophe the raiders have now been exposed and the and uh who's the
other team oh yeah in denver and kc why can't kc win that division they could be good do i need to
go through the schedule do i need to bring dog out i think we're out already though it's it's 10
what do you mean broncos pay broncos play the patriots all right i'll look at the broncos
hold on let me give you the Chiefs. All right.
At San Diego Sunday night.
That is...
That's not a Sunday night anymore.
It's a late afternoon.
Oh, it got tweaked?
It got moved because the Chargers are that bad.
At San Diego, home for Buffalo.
At Oakland, home for San Diego.
At Baltimore, home for Cleveland and Oakland. They home for San Diego, at Baltimore, home for Cleveland
and Oakland. They might run the slate.
They go 10-6 or 11-5.
I didn't realize that. I think they go
5-2 out of those 7. Is that 7
left? Denver's got at Chicago
next week with Brock Osweiler
or whatever his name. What's his name?
Brock Osweiler? Yeah.
Osweiler. Brooke Osweiler?
Watch him win the game. What's hisiler? Yeah. Osweiler. Brooke Osweiler? Watch him win the game.
What's his name?
Brock.
Brock.
Brock Osweiler.
He's starting next week.
I know.
They're home for the Pats at San Diego, home for Oakland at Pittsburgh.
Cincy Monday night.
They play a first place schedule.
Home in Denver and then San Diego.
They could lose the Chicago.
They could lose the Pats.
I think they end up 11-5.
So Chiefs have to go 11-5. They could go the Pats. I think they end up 11-5. So Chiefs have to go 10-6.
It could be 10-6. Maybe.
Who's that last game, Denver?
Home for the
San Diego Chargers. Yeah.
That could be the one they need to win.
Can I do a Skip Bayless hot take? Yeah, let's hear it.
Peyton Manning. Stephen A.
I'm not accusing Peyton Manning
of anything. I'm just pointing this out. Peyton Manning. Stephen A. No. I'm not accusing Peyton Manning anything. I'm just pointing this out.
Peyton Manning knew he was hurt.
He needed four more yards for the record.
And he played anyway.
He put his team in danger.
He knew he shouldn't have played Stephen A.
He knew it.
That's true.
It's a selfish act by a selfish guy.
I like that.
Now we have to show a cutaway that would never appear on any other TV show of Skip Bayless
listening to Stephen A's response.
All right.
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All right, week 11.
Here we go.
I didn't do that well in week 10 And I think we have now
Hit the point of the season where
Pretty much everyone could beat everyone every week
And we just have to be prepared emotionally for that
I don't feel good about any team
I don't either
And these lines are
They fly all over the place
And like we said they're no longer on the 3's
Or the 6's or the 7's
It's 1, 2, I don't want to ruin it
How about yesterday There was an 18-16 on the threes or the sixes or the sevens. Oh, my God. It's one, two. I don't want to ruin it for...
How about yesterday?
I mean, there was like, what was it?
There was an 18-16?
Yeah.
When have we ever had an 18-16 game?
Right.
These scores are ridiculous.
Can I just say, before we get into this,
so it was a mess.
Arizona was my best bet, my TV best bet.
But I was so disillusioned by the end of the day.
I was like, I'm not taking them.
This is a big mess.
So what everyone says is the under in the first half of the primetime games is 23-6 in the first half.
Wow.
So I said, all right, Seattle, Arizona, I'll take it under.
That's my bounce back game.
I'm doing it first half under 22.
It's 5-0.
5-0 with eight minutes left in the second quarter
and that freaking half goes over 22 to 7 no one's trying to score Carson by their handing off it's
ridiculous Seattle's getting uh two holding calls a drive and punting five nothing and I lose 22
seven and then the best bet wins Arizona I feel like after we finish this podcast I'm gonna we're
gonna be walking out and you're going to ask me for a loan
because you got demolished this weekend.
Did you get demolished this weekend? Yeah, yeah.
It was a bad weekend. I blame Ronda Rousey.
And SimpliSafe.
You know what? They weren't there for me.
SimpliSafe could have protected you
from all this. They should have protected me.
They should add a gambling protection
wing to the alarm system.
Yeah, the Rondai Rousey.
You're no longer allowed to throw in minus 800 UFC fighters into your parlays.
I think you're right.
I'm banning you from that.
I might be done.
All right, let's do week 11.
Thursday night is just an electric game that we'll be telling our grandkids about someday.
Yeah.
Tennessee at Jacksonville.
And the colorblind suffered Thursday,
and I think the actual blind will be better off this Thursday.
This is the best case scenario.
This is bad.
I loved how bad the colorblind people got about those uniforms.
They were furious.
They were really, and I don't blame them.
Who knew?
How do you watch that game if you're colorblind?
They had two dark uniforms.
Yeah, dark red.
And then the NFL, instead of being profusely apologetic,
the NFL's like, yeah, we're going to look into that.
It's like, oh, thanks.
We had no idea.
As usual.
Three years from now, we'll have an answer on what to do, because that's how we roll.
Did you pick this?
What did you say?
I had the Jags minus four, and I like the Jags.
I said Jags minus six, and it's three. So you get this one.
But the Jags are three and six, and it's three. So you get this one.
But the Jags are three and six, Tennessee two and seven.
The Jags are better, and they're home, and it's three?
They're considered even otherwise?
That's not right, is it?
Was there a worse loss this year than Baltimore's loss this year?
For a decade, I think.
That was insane.
I thought the Giants in week one was the worst loss of the year,
and the Ravens, nobody cares because they were like two and seven or two and six but that that was the word like if you had the ravens money line in that game you you just you're still
walking around in a fog it it yeah right right it had a it had a professional wrestling uh element
to it where bordles takes a snap and falls and it falls like if he doesn't fall it's over too probably and also
don't forget the part it seemed like they snapped after a little after the zeros but then they
showed it and it was like a split second before so close he got it off and then doomerville comes
doesn't even really need to touch him and then just yanks him around by the face mask puts him
in field goal range the guy who missed this myers, and he cranks it in. Ludicrous.
Bad, bad loss.
Even if he doesn't face mask him and
Bortles is just running around trying to make a play,
the time would have run out anyway.
What is he going to do? He's going to run around, point his
feet, and just throw a Hail Mary.
Awful. But the Ravens deserve
it because they blew the whistle on the Patriots.
All bad things that happen to them, I approve of.
The Jaguars aren't bad.
They're a feisty team.
They are.
Bortles is...
You know what I like about Bortles?
He can throw a terrible pass and he's fine.
The next drive, he'll...
Yeah.
He comes back.
And Hearns and Robinson, they're big playmakers.
Not terrible.
These are the people who will be deciding fantasy leagues in week 15 and 17.
Hearns, Robinson, and Bortles.
You're not kidding.
I should mention New Orleans, Giants, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland on the bye.
This is the last bye week of the year.
And that's it.
Thanks to the NFL.
They gave us nine early games and two late afternoon games.
Thanks again, NFL.
That's great.
Good job by you.
How were the Pats and the Giants not the national game yesterday?
That was weird, wasn't it?
It wasn't the national game, and yet Sims and Nance called it, right?
Yeah.
That was strange.
And, you know, as much as I hate the Giants, I think if you lose in the last second field
goal to the Patriots, you should be given your division.
I think the Giants should win the division just based on on losing to the
patriots on the last second it is so funny how in football that like the first time we played them
in the super bowl was what eight years ago nine almost eight and a half years ago and yet the
giants and their fans still feel like we can beat the patriots like it doesn't matter who's on whose
team there's just in football you have these teams you just feel like you can beat. The Giants
go in, they have a ton of confidence. Yeah, but you
felt that too on the other side, right? I was nervous
the whole time, yeah.
That's our arch rival now. It's weird.
It's weird to have an arch rival in the other conference.
That you play every four years unless it's the Super Bowl.
Because it used to be the Colts, but then
you know, now we own the Colts.
Terrible. Dallas
at Miami. Here we go.
Oh, man.
Tony Romo back.
It's a must-loss for the Cowboys.
Tony Romo back.
He's playing.
Oh, I'm going to switch my pick.
Dolphins by three.
I said Dolphins by two and a half.
Yeah.
It's Cowboys by one.
Ooh.
The two and seven cowboys.
So you have not you've not won a game
since Greg Hardy
showed up.
Oh, yeah.
Before that, even.
Yeah.
He's like the lost
character that
everybody hates on
the message boards
and then they figure
out a way to kill
them off.
That's right.
He'll be on.
We'll be he will
be on the team
over under ten and a half
more days is he on the team 11 days from now i think let's see i think he plays one game with
ramon des and everybody just to see what happens and then if they lose that meetings he's fighting
with offensive linemen he's he's doing all this other stuff during the week, too. That's ancillary to all the other horrible stuff.
But when does Vince McMahon hire him?
Do you think he'll be ready in time for Royal Rumble in January?
Do you think so?
Yeah, why not?
Yeah, get him in there.
He'd be a top three villain.
They don't have a villain as good as Greg Hardy.
That's true.
I like that.
He's come in.
I'm not going to apologize for anything I've done.
He does that whole thing. Weren't there
Hardy brothers or something in the WWE?
Jeff Hardy?
Oh yeah, he could be the new member of the Hardy
brothers. Jeff Hardy's long lost brother.
They never knew they were
related.
That should be his next move though.
Because it seems like he actually
embraces the fact that he's a bad human being.
He's okay with it.
He doesn't care what people think.
I'm a bad person.
I don't care what you think.
I wonder if Vince McMahon would turn him down for character issues.
I don't think so.
I don't want him.
That would be funny if he drew the line right there.
That's where it is.
We should probably be playing for draft picks at this point.
What's funny is you're not done yet.
Nine and seven could still win that division. That's not funny. And the draft picks at this point. What's funny is you're not done yet. 9-7 could still win that division.
That's not funny.
And the Eagles are atrocious.
What a terrible team.
You look at the Dolphins-Eagles game.
It's like, oh, maybe the Dolphins are good.
No, no, no.
Don't even count that as any game that you just saw.
What's frustrating about the Eagles is they can do things well.
They have a good pass rush.
They have talent.
I wonder if they had a
different coach it feels like that would be maybe an 11 and 5 team or something chip kelly we'll
get to that line i don't think chip kelly's good i think everyone's afraid of them though vegas
especially that keeps making them big favorites and everything it's very strange to me there is
no way they should have lost to miami i watched a lot of that game barnwell came over yesterday
we were watching uh and it was almost a turnoff at one point.
Yeah.
And then Miami was kind of lingering.
But Miami doesn't have Cameron Wake.
They barely have a pass rush.
That's not a team you should lose to in Philadelphia.
Bradford goes out, which is now a season that you know that's going to happen once a season.
He's going to walk out as some sort of shoulder thing.
But he's playing this week, right?
It's the other shoulder and the concussion.
Well, what do you think this line is?
Oh, this is a different game.
Oh, we did this.
I have the Eagles by six over Tampa in Philadelphia.
So we may as well move to that one.
I said four and a half, and you're right.
It's six and a half.
But like I said, it really just seems like everyone's just afraid of Chip Kelly
exploding with this offense. I like Tampa. I it really just seems like everyone's just afraid of Chip Kelly exploding with
this offense.
I like Tampa.
I think Jameis has a little something,
something.
He's got a little something.
Even though he almost fumbled on the goal line.
No,
he did fumble on the goal line.
He did.
And they called holding.
They called it back.
even after,
even though Jameis had committed to running,
don't even get me started.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay.
I won't get you started.
You know what it is
Jason Garrett should be fired
but I think Jerry Jones
is so old
it's like getting your
grandparents to go on a plane
or to change from VCR
to DVD player
like no no no
we're happy
it's like
oh but your life
would be so much easier
if you're watching
Blu-ray instead of these
tapes that no one
makes anymore
it's like no
just leave me alone
I want to be the way I want to be that's it that's why jason garrett has a job now i think i'm getting that
way you are yeah i think i'm starting to move in that direction my mom was like that with netflix
for like three and a half years just wouldn't do netflix we're like you got to do netflix all the
movies are on there these shows you'll love it no i don't know i can't figure it out she loves
she watches everything on netflix she's like the number one like weird Netflix show person right and the same thing with HBO now it's
like no no I already have HBO no no but they have the old series on there you should do it no no I
can't I don't know how to log in the HBO now thing you just threw in because you realize you were
being a jerk with the Netflix. No, not at all.
I love it.
All right, Jerry Jones, get HBO now.
Let's do it already.
St. Louis at Baltimore.
God.
I have Baltimore by one and a half over St. Louis.
I have figured out the Rams, though, finally. That's exactly what I had, one and a half, and it's St. Louis favored by one.
Okay. That's two road teams, very slight. You figured out the Rams, though, finally. That's exactly what I had, one and a half. And it's St. Louis favored by one. Okay.
That's two road teams, very slight.
You figured out the Rams.
I figured out the Rams.
Have you figured out how we could sell off our Rams to win the NFC bet?
That I have not figured out.
We're screwed with that.
We're screwed with the Rockets.
There's a lot of inner turmoil with the Rockets right now.
There's just a lot of bets.
We're in bad shape.
Bad gambling shape.
But we have our Patriots-AFC East bet that we're going to win. Oh, that's true. That's going to cover a lot of bets. We're in bad shape. Bad gambling shape. But we have our Patriots-AFC East bet that we're going to win.
Oh, that's true.
That's going to cover a lot of bets.
How does that lose?
We put a lot of money in that one.
St. Louis, wait a minute.
Now they're 35-1?
They were 61?
Well, they've lost their last two since we bet on them to win the NFC.
We're in trouble.
What?
I have not relaxed.
All right.
I relaxed with the Packers.
I just think you get down 10 points and it's bad.
That was how I've...
Yeah, I think if they're down seven, the game's over.
Yeah.
So really, they're the best real-time gambling team.
If you're in Vegas and you can bet on the results as the game's going on.
You can see and get a sense.
Yeah, if they're down three-nothing, you just start banging the other team the other team three nothing as soon as the ribs don't have the lead it's over
they don't have the ball yet yeah and i agree and there's tayvon austin they try to force like seven
to ten carries on him and it he'll break one and then yesterday twice it was called for penalty
it was brought back but now that rob ryan's, I think Jeff Fisher is the new, wait a second, why does he still have a job?
Really?
Yeah.
He's been 8-8 for a decade and a half.
I know.
Well, he can blame us as much as we can blame him for betting them.
I think that was the problem.
What's sad is that I love the recipe of really good run game, really good defense,
and yet I've disparaged the Minnesota Vikings
for four straight weeks.
We had the exact same recipe
and do it better than the Rams did.
And beat the Rams last week.
And beat the Rams.
And so where was I in the Vikings?
No, you're right.
All these Viking fans who were like,
oh, you keep going against us.
All right, well, I'm on your side now,
so you can blame me now that I'm picking you.
But let me ask you this. I asked you about the against us. All right, well, I'm on your side now. So you can blame me now that I'm picking you. But let me ask you this.
I asked you about the AFC.
Yeah.
NFC.
Who in the Super Bowl?
Patriots.
Who do you want the opponent to be?
That's why we did that stupid Rams bet.
Arizona, Minnesota.
Who are you more afraid of?
Arizona, Minnesota, or Carolina?
I thought that was a really important Cardinals game yesterday.
They were damn good.
Because they lose their best run blocking guard.
They lose a big lead.
They have a bunch of dumb stuff happen.
They're in Seattle that just had all the makings
of the classic Seahawks turn their season around.
And then they just, they really like throttled them.
I was so impressed.
Although Seattle's secondary might suck.
Is that possible?
Well, I think, here's the thing.
Always going to be big hits over the middle.
Always going to be tough guys.
But they're a little thin.
They're a little thin now in the secondary.
And they don't have the home field advantage.
And the Ravens aren't good.
And the Packers don't blow anyone out.
There's like five narratives that we have to just kind of get rid of from now on.
But after the second strip sack of the Seahawks,
you thought they were going to win that game by 21 points, right?
There's no way Arizona takes two 80-yard drives to win that game afterwards.
That was very impressive.
And also the Seahawks were like plus two with turnovers at home.
That game should be over.
Right.
They got a defensive touchdown.
I don't know.
I'm writing them off.
I'm sorry.
The Seahawks?
Yeah.
You don't have to be sorry.
Yeah.
I gave them a huge benefit of the doubt, but there's something stinky with that team.
So I don't know who the second wild card is.
You figure Minnesota and Green Bay make it? Atlanta and Green Bay. I don't think who the second wild card is. You figure Minnesota and Green Bay make it.
Atlanta and Green Bay.
I don't think Atlanta's good.
Would you bet your life on Atlanta making the playoffs?
I think six and three.
I think they still play the AFC South and their division a little bit.
Let me look at their skid.
Hold on.
I might have written this one down.
Home for Indy.
Home for Minnesota.
At Tampa.
At Carolina.
At Jacksonville.
Home for Carolina and New Orleans.
God, that's a terrible schedule.
Yeah, there's four more wins there, I think.
So if they beat Indy this week, they're probably making the playoffs.
Yeah.
They'll get to 10, I think.
Can any...
Let's do that game.
Are we sure the Bears can't make the playoffs?
They're fun to watch.
They are fun.
Home for Denver, at Green Bay on a Thursday,
home for San Francisco, Washingtonhington at Minnesota at Tampa.
Home for Detroit.
They don't play Atlanta at all?
Like if they play head-to-head with one of these teams, it would help.
No, they didn't play the Falcons this year.
Let's do Denver at Chicago.
Yeah, let's do Denver at Chicago.
This would have been a great game.
John Fox, old team.
Brock Cocktoast didn't play.
Who's the quarterback?
Brock Osweiler. Brock Cocktoast didn't play. Who's the quarterback? Brock Osweiler.
Brock Cocktoast didn't.
Let me see if I have the right line here.
Broncos by one?
I don't know.
This is going to be a mess.
Yeah, I said Broncos by three, and it's two.
I like the Bears.
We tie anyway.
All right, good.
Adam Gay's doing a great job with that offense.
Washington and Carolina.
Panthers by seven and a half. This could be
the game they blow. We've been saying that for seven
straight weeks, but this really does feel like
it has the chance to be the game. You nailed it.
Seven and a half.
I said eight and a half. You think this is the
one, huh? Washington scores a lot.
Should we tease this with Ronda Rousey announcing her retirement from UFC
and then changing her mind a month later?
She's not retiring.
No way.
No way.
Caroline's got to be 10-0, and then the Cowboys have to be up winning by 17
against him on Thanksgiving and then blow it, right?
That's what's going to happen.
Your Thanksgiving's already ruined it.
It hasn't even happened yet.
At least try to eat some porch pies.
Get some porch pies.
Yeah?
I thought Cam Newton acted like a dick when he scored.
Yeah, you did?
He's just a dick to the Tennessee defense.
And then he's like, hey, guys, don't let me score there.
It's like you acted like a dick for 10 seconds.
I was just going to say, you don't want me dancing the end zone? What do you do, Bill guys don't let me score there it's like you were acting like a dick for 10 seconds i was just gonna say you don't want me dancing the end zone what do you do bill don't let him get there don't let him get there i listened to four sports shows and they basically
just repeated his comment but made it their own don't let him get there guys that's how you don't
see him dance yeah but you know what though you do that stuff and then all of a sudden somebody's
crack back blocking you on a on a pick when you're not looking because you're a dick yeah
it's true i don't think there's any reason he's probably the mvp leader right now him and brady
right yeah it's those two maybe carson palmer let's see i love carson palmer i really do i think
he's let's see brady minus, minus 200. Cam, plus 280.
Carson Palmer, 10 to 1.
Andy Dalton, 12 to 1.
Rogers, 15 to 1.
Rogers?
Peterson, 50 to 1.
Oh.
Peterson, you know...
Peterson, if he reels off a few more of those 80-yarders...
Could he get to 2,000 yards?
I don't know.
What if they're a two-seed and he gets to 2,000 yards?
Yeah.
50 to 1.
Boy, that'll be some MVP speech.
We have to do that.
That would be a good way to jinx the Vikings.
We could do that.
All right.
Oakland at Detroit.
Way to all the people who love to get outraged about stuff.
Peterson winning the MVP would be a good one.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You might be the most valuable player, Adrian, but you're not the most valuable person.
I'll tell you that much.
A lot of that.
The Outrage Society will hate that.
Valuable man.
Oakland at Detroit.
What do we have?
Maybe you should donate your trophy.
Oakland, I have...
I can't even find it.
Oh, I have them favored by one and a half in Detroit.
Oh, come on.
I know I'm wrong.
No, you're exactly right.
How do you pick that?
The Lions are terrible.
I threw my hands up.
I said that's a pick.
You said Oakland by one and a half.
It is one and a half.
Here's why I'm not going to relax with the Packers.
The Lions are terrible, and they won in Lambeau.
Of course.
They're not good at football.
No.
And they lost another guy yesterday.
You know what happened?
I had money on Green Bay, and at some point I was like,
not that I was rooting for Detroit, but I was like,
this would be bad.
This would be bad.
Maybe I'm just not betting enough is the problem.
Or I'm a really good human being.
No, I'm not betting enough.
But Detroit, I mean, Calvin Johnson never looked like he wanted to play
for another team more than when he dropped that onside kick.
Really, just, it's like, I'm not going to be here in a few weeks that's it i want you guys to get another first rounder
what is going on prater has the field goal record the longest field goal he's missing extra points
it's like how is this team and then green bay was right in it i i've been saying this for a couple
weeks and i'm going to say it more emphatically this week i'm not going to relax with the packers
their receivers can't get open.
No, they can't.
We had that game on most of the game.
Every pass, it's like Rodgers throwing a pass
with the guy jumping over the defensive back
or the guy's right there.
He has to throw it over the back shoulder.
The guys are never, ever, ever open.
It is very strange.
The guys who get open are the tight ends.
These random tight ends I've never heard of. Those are the only guys in the team who can get open but they had
like 47 yards rushing at home you can't do that that's not packer football you have to mix it up
a little bit but i have some gluten-free secrets for eddie lacy what is it oh really to get to get
back in the shape i just i think maybe maybe skip a few lunches get it robex juice it seems like a
beaten carrot juice yeah um i would definitely not eat
bread i would just get rid of bread and i would cut out desserts for like three weeks what about
thanksgiving i wouldn't overdo it eddie lacy there's so much with cheese in that in the in
wisconsin what are you gonna do i here's the thing i you think green bay is gonna right the ship at
some point right no really I really don't.
I don't think they're that good.
Let's go to that game.
It's now mid-November, and this is when we can really figure out who's good and not good.
And Green Bay needed to win that game yesterday, and they blew it, and they didn't look good,
and I'm not relaxing.
All right.
They needed to win that game.
They're at Minnesota this week.
If they crush Minnesota, we're back on Green Bay now, right?
Now it's like Green Bay's a top team.
What do you think?
I believe in the Vikings.
I have them by two and a half
only because I think Vegas half point
just throws it the Packers way
because they know people love to bet on Green Bay.
Wait till you see what Vegas do with this one.
I said Minnesota by one.
The Green Bay better not be favored.
It's a pick.
Don't do it.
It's a pick.
What?
It's a pick right now.
It's absurd. They're't do it. It's a pick. What? It's a pick right now. It's absurd.
They're not done betting Green Bay.
I'll tell you one thing about Minnesota.
Perfect cold weather team.
Yeah.
And it's outdoor stadium.
Run the ball defense.
I don't trust Bridgewater even a little.
But the Packers defense, that's the 85 Bears.
You're going to hate the Vikings.
I can tell you're getting a lot of hate mail.
They're going to break my heart on Sunday.
You're going to get a lot of hate mail from the fans.
No, I want the Vikings to do well.
And now you're back on them.
I got to say, I think I got too irrational with Bridgewater.
I thought he was going to cost them a game, and I kept waiting for it.
Yeah, he doesn't have to do that much.
He's in the Trent Dilfer 2000 mode.
It's fine.
That defense is rock solid.
I really like the defense.
Yep. Colts at Falcons. We's fine. That defense is rock solid. I really like the defense. Yep.
Colts at Falcons.
We didn't do this one yet?
No.
I don't even really want to do it.
You want to just skip it?
We can skip it.
Falcons by three.
This is the one I picked exactly.
Minus six.
Oh, no luck.
No luck.
Yeah.
I'm not giving you a redo there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Although maybe healthy Matt Hasselbeck is better than injured
Andrew Luck and then who's their backup
they have Charlie Whitehurst they brought in you know
Charlie Whitehurst
cost me $18,000 in 2010
he did? yeah remember
when I was going to be in the top 5
in the super contest I just needed
Sam Bradford and the Rams
is that before you had SimpliSafe
way before I had SimpliSafe?
It's way before I had SimpliSafe.
Yeah, $18,000.
Rams minus three at Seattle.
Week 17.
Oh, right, right, right. Super Contest.
Oh, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The first time Sam Bradford really, really hurt me.
Hurt my feelings.
Was he the quarterback when New Orleans went there?
It was like a nine-point wild card favorite.
Charlie Whitehurst.
Charlie Whitehurst.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He cost us there, too.
Charlie Whitehurst cost gamblers across America like $20 million in two weeks.
That was a lot.
Because he looks like Jesus.
Jets at Houston.
Jets at Houston.
God.
These games are awful. What's the best game? You know, the best game would have been Denver at Houston. God. These games are awful.
What's the best game?
You know, the best game would have been Denver at Chicago with the John Fox thing.
But now, Osweiler.
I have the Jets by three at Houston.
And I like the Jets.
We split this.
I said two.
It's two and a half.
I think that line moves to three after Houston loses by 30 points tonight.
It's Cincinnati.
Well, with this week, Cincinnati will probably lose by three touchdowns, right? I think that line moves to three after Houston loses by 30 points tonight in Cincinnati. Oh, man.
Well, with this week, Cincinnati will probably lose by three touchdowns, right?
The way this week is going.
You think this is the Dalton gets hurt?
No, I don't.
But this has just been a crazy Ronda Rousey week.
The Jets defense, 1,200 yards passing allowed. Do you still have your house?
Did Ronda Rousey cost you your house?
Are movers moving your furniture out right now?
It's an hour-to-hour thing.
Mayflower is moving the family to Baltimore.
I love that you're trying to play it off that the Rousey thing didn't hurt that much.
I would have won the Parle-Ams.
I know you said I put it with Green Bay and Denver.
I didn't.
You love to throw in the high, can't lose favorites.
I know.
I already lost with her.
Kansas City at San Diego.
Like I said, this was originally the Sunday night game.
Now move back to 4 Eastern, 4-0-5.
Chiefs minus three.
I think we ride the Chiefs for like four straight weeks.
And then during one of those four weeks, Andy Reid will break our hearts
and we can complain about him on a Monday podcast.
We'll get our money's worth.
You get this.
I said Chiefs by two and a half.
It is Chiefs by three.
Andy Reid, 15-2 now
off a bye. Shouldn't he be
just hired by teams to
coach after a bye? Like the Mariano
Rivera, just bring him in? I like that
idea. Yeah. It's like, drop your buff, Andy.
You're going to Tampa this week.
They were just on a bye.
That's all he could do, right? He really enjoys
bye weeks. Yeah. What do we do, right? He really enjoys bye weeks.
Yeah.
What do we do, though?
I mean, Andy Reid coming off a stunning win versus San Diego at home.
Like, two things.
What do we do?
Yeah, San Diego's playing on the road in San Diego.
Exactly.
How dare they make him play it? I can't imagine the Chiefs fans really traveling.
That's not a game where I don't think you'll see 30,000 Chiefs fans in the game.
I don't even think it matters anymore. I don't know. All right. Speaking of home field advantages,
San Francisco at Seattle. I mean, these are the afternoon games. What are you going to do?
Why don't you take the kids to the mountains? It might be snow this weekend. Casey at San Diego,
San Fran at Seattle. No way I'm doing that. Those are the afternoon games. I have the Seahawks favored by nine.
I don't feel good about it.
You just beat me there.
I said eight and a half.
It's 10.
Do you think there will be Legion of Boom t-shirts for sale for 50% off on the NFL Pro Shop?
Oh, no.
Because I'm definitely going to buy one and start wearing them ironically.
Really?
Legion of Boom.
Go for 80 yards on us again.
It is rough.
Can Richard Sherman write a first-person account
of how the Legion of Boom died for MMQB?
Oh, the poor Legion of Boom.
I think we're going to find out that Arizona is much better than people think.
Well, I was impressed yesterday.
That was a good one.
And Andre Ellington continues to be the best player in the league
during the seven plays a year that he plays. Yeah, right, right. But how manyllington continues to be the best player in the league during the seven plays a
year that he plays. Yeah, right, right. But like how many
running backs could have turned the corner on that run
and gone down the sidelines? Like three? Yeah.
I was thinking maybe... He's hurt
right now. He just got hurt getting out of his car.
I thought he should stop short at the
one. He almost gave him a chance to win.
I'll tell you one thing. If he had done that,
Chris Collinsworth would have
had a Collinsgasm.
Oh, what a smart play by
Andre Alitina!
I think Landon Collins
had a Collinsgasm going for that
Brady pick yesterday.
This is a game they flexed to Sunday
night Cincinnati at Arizona.
That's a great flex.
It is a really good flex.
That is a good flex right there. Someone is paying attention at NBC, that's for sure,. It is a really good flex. Hey, dog, that is a good flex right there.
Someone is paying attention at NBC, that's for sure, Mike.
Really, really good flex.
Huge flex right there.
Cards by three and a half.
Let's hope this isn't a Super Bowl 50 preview.
I get this.
I said three, and it's two and a half.
What?
If Arizona had lost last night, I would love them this game.
I still like them.
The Cards are great at home.
Why should I trust Andy Dalton in Arizona?
I don't know.
You pot the bean, I was big.
But he's already cleared to play.
By the way, Bill, if you don't, this is a good Sunday night game.
But if you don't want to watch this, if you want to catch up on a new episode,
it's called Daylight Shavings.
Yeah, it streams on Google Images.
It's very strange.
Daylight Shavings?
What is it?
Daylight Shavings.
It's Zach Alphanakis and Rupert from Survivor, and they're bearded guys.
They work in a clock shop, but they're actually fixed games, W wmba games so that's where the shavings
comes in it's it's a drama though it sounds like funny but it's a drama it's really good
check it on google images that sounds great daylight shavings i've been watching on amazon
prime what james gandolfini's new show what yeah how is that i know he hasn't been around forever
that's the amazing thing about it he died and he Oh, man. And he's in a show on Amazon Prime.
I have to see that.
I have to see that.
Apparently, he filmed it like nine and a half years ago.
He's a college professor.
Uh-huh.
And he has an affair.
Oh.
Yeah.
Okay.
With a student.
I see.
And then it's kind of like a dramedy, but yeah, it was filmed in like 2004.
And it's not at the bottom of Bada Bing?
It doesn't go on, the affair?
No, no, no.
He's a poli-sci professor.
It's called poli-sci, but it's S-I-G-H.
Oh, I see.
Apparently the titles would kill this.
I have to watch this.
There's just so much to watch.
Poli-sci.
It's on Amazon Prime.
Too much.
The late James Gandolfini.
It's only eight episodes.
Well, of course.
He didn't have time to tape anymore.
Cuz, did you know that we created the Bill Simmons Podcast Network?
I heard that.
Yeah.
So this week we launched our second channel.
It's called Channel 33.
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I can't believe you said that.
Give it two seconds of thought and you'll agree with me.
You know, the whole time I wanted to talk about how Aikman is one of the five worst NFL Hall of Famers.
I don't care.
That's fine.
All right.
That's fine.
But I mean, he played for like eight years.
Did he play for eight years?
Nine years?
He was, you know, I don't know what quarterback rating you go by, but he's one of the most
accurate pass of all time.
So.
That's great.
You had five all pro defensive linemen, Michael Irvin, Emmitt Smith.
Well, I don't think his numbers would have been better if he didn't have the greatest
running back.
But, you know, I don't care.
I don't care anymore.
You care a little.
I'm a Romo guy.
Buffalo at New England. Monday night. running back but you know i don't care i don't care anymore you care a little i'm a romo guy buffalo at new england monday night
oh that's funny buffalo at new england we're definitely not covering this game really
i think patriots by nine and the bills have already covered i said nine also. It started at seven and a half. It's seven now.
Seven?
Come on.
They're going to send the house at Brady every time.
Come on.
What did you win in Buffalo?
You won by double digits.
We won by eight.
You did?
In Buffalo?
Yeah, Buffalo made the big comeback.
Oh, right.
Yeah, you won by, okay.
All right, so this Patriots season, they're 9-0,
and yet they're 5-4 against the spread.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, maybe the spread's a little too high.
I just think it's double digits here.
Hold on, I got one more crazy gambling stat for you.
Minnesota.
Eight in a row, right?
Eight in a row against the spread.
Yeah.
Eight in a row.
That's phenomenal what i would
i'd love to know what the record is oh for a consecutive interesting it can't think anyone's
covered 10 in a row in football someone seems impossible hit us up with that no i think there
are teams that have not not covered 10 times you and i both like minnesota heading into the year
and then they lost that stupid game in San Francisco week one
that ended at like 2 in the morning.
The late Monday game, yeah.
And threw everyone off their scent.
Yeah, but everyone loved Minnesota.
I think that's what scared me off, right?
Everyone said they were going to win 10 games.
They're going to be a definite wild card team.
And that's, yeah, you're right.
That week one thing killed it.
I'd like to apologize
formally and officially for talking you into um the houston rockets being good this year good
thank you i don't know what happened are we forgetting the blue jackets
i'm not gonna apologize for that i think they might come around have they won a game yet
might come around all right so my son's hockey team yeah they played after the first period
at the Kings game
mhm
when?
on Saturday
what?
they did?
it's like 20 kids out there
for like 4 minutes
oh that's great
and he almost had a breakaway
then he almost had a breakaway
and then he did get a breakaway
came out of this whole pack
and he scored at the Staples Center
what?
yeah
wait I was there
my son scored at the Staples Center yeah wait i was there my son scored
at the staples this is saturday this is saturday that's insane and then lucic scored in the same
game as his new favorite player and then he met lucic after the game and this isn't even like one
of the seven coolest things that's happened to him i i'm like mad at my own son what a spoiled
brat he really is he's had so many great life experiences.
The highlight of my entire childhood was when Jim Rice went to a Celtic game and in the most surly way possible,
autographed a piece of paper without ever looking up at me.
It was the best thing that ever happened to me until I was 10.
And my son scored at the Staples Center.
That is amazing.
These kids are too, they have too much. Yeah. I had Buddy Harrelson,
the former Met shortstop grade,
own the batting cage around the corner from me,
and I asked him what it was like to fight with Pete Rose,
and he said, I don't want to talk about it.
That was the highlight.
I think that was the highlight of my young sport running.
Never heard that story.
Yeah, that was it.
Let me just throw one more thing at it with the Patriots.
Our friend Adam Carolla, an all-time jinx, bet a substantial amount of money on the Patriots
to win the Super Bowl.
Like a week ago, right?
Yeah, yeah.
But he did this last year and we won the Super Bowl.
He did, but it can't happen again.
Now, let me just say something else about Adam Carolla.
As I'm driving here to do the podcast, I usually watch football with him on Sundays,
but I've caught between games, and I had to watch my kid's flag game.
So I said, hey, I'm not going to be able to go to the studio, to the Kimmel studio to watch,
but someone else will open it up.
I get a call that there's a blue Mercedes there left overnight by someone who signed in under my name.
It's got to be Corolla.
Lit on Mangaria.
I'm saying it right now.
Left the car there.
I'm sure he'll talk about it on his podcast,
so don't worry about cutting it here.
He left the car?
There's a car.
Someone left a car there and parked it.
I don't know what they did.
I have to now take care of this.
Well, we can't watch football anymore.
I'll tell you, I've been watching his new show on Hulu.
What is it?
You're not watching his new sitcom on Hulu?
This is so much.
What is this?
It's very autobiographical.
It's about a guy who hosts a podcast.
Oh.
And all the wacky people in his life.
Oh, he should be good at that.
What's it called?
It's called The Adam Carolla Show.
Or that I've seen.
That Hulu.
But check that out.
Our buddy Adam has his own show on Hulu. It's really good.
Also check out Jimmy Kimmel live Liam and Liam Hemsworth. Sorry,
Tracy Ellis Ross and jewel in the gang. We have our mashup Monday,
jewel and cool in the gang later in the week. See Josh Hutcherson,
Joseph Gordon Levitt, Amber Heard, Melissa McCarthy,
and one direction on Thursday and check me out at The Cousin Sal on Twitter.
Sports Center, Thursday night, Friday morning on the East Coast.
My best bet's hitting 70%.
I was 2-1 last week.
You're 2-1?
Oh, you had the Jags.
I had the Jags.
We love the Jags.
Yeah, we did.
Should have done that mid-range dog.
We were trying to think of a name for Juliet's show,
and I wanted to see if Coolio could be on it could be coolio and
juliet oh yeah do you think we get coolio i think you could probably get cool we just have to he'd
have to tape like the intro and that's it and we call coolio and juliet that's awesome yeah cool
but i don't know if he's alive no we had him on the show a couple years ago or if there's somebody
named romeo out there we'd the obvious romeo and juliet would be good but it's almost like too easy yeah it needs to be something that
ends with eo like maceo and juliet or not little romeo and juliet little romeo and juliet yeah
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Cuz.
Good job by you.
Good job by you, Belly.
We're banging the Vikings.
I was just thinking, I think we're going to take Peterson at 50 to 1.
Instead of betting on the Vikings, why can't we start, what's the thing Carolli used to fund his movie?
Was it Crowdfunder?
Yeah, why can't we crowdfund from the
Viking fans to get us not to bet
on the Vikings this week? Oh, that's a good thing.
Yeah. If we raise
$2,000 on a crowdfunded thing,
we won't bet on the Vikings. It all goes south from here,
Vikings fans, if we put even a dollar
on your team. We should tease the
Vikings with Rousey.
I'm leaving. The Blue Jackets
and the Rockets.
And the Rockets.
All right, cuz.
Thank you.
All right, see ya.
We about this, bitch.
Anytime y'all wanna see me again,
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