The Bill Simmons Podcast - Ep. 26: Week 11 NFL w/ Cousin Sal

Episode Date: November 16, 2015

HBO's Bill Simmons brings on Cousin Sal to discuss Week 11 NFL lines, Ronda Rousey's shocking defeat (3:50 mark), Giants-Pats (7:00), Manning's injury (17:13), KC's AFC West contention (20:20), Romo's... return (29:13), Greg Hardy's WWE career(30:30), Cards-Seahawks (36:50), Cam's TD dance (40:01), Bengals-Cards (50:03) and two must-see TV shows. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Your Cowboys have completely fallen apart. We didn't even have to talk about that. The biggest upset in female sports history the door just opened can you talk for a second while i close the door uh yeah by the way the big upset obviously first of all how is nine to one the biggest upset in ufc has ufc history it didn't even say women's nine to one the sport's been around for for nobody's ever been a nine to one favorite like yeah well that sounds crazy to me, but everyone reported that. And the biggest upset, not that we'll even spend a minute on this,
Starting point is 00:02:10 New Mexico was a 39.5-point underdog to Boise State football. In one? Saturday, in one. What is going on? It's the world's ending? 65-1 odds. And the Lions beat the Packers in Lambeau? Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Hey, quickly quickly before we get into this podcast some house cleaning you can subscribe to the bill simmons podcast and itunes soundcloud or stitcher by the way if you're an itunes guy or gal leave us a review on the podcast you can praise us you can insult us you complain about how i'm biased for the boss of the sports teams i don't care actually i i do care i don't think you think people you think they'll give a review. I just give some reviews. All these other podcasts have reviews. All these nerds are reviewing all the NPR podcasts.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I don't know. People like to stick to themselves. I don't think they like to comment. You know. All right. Let's talk about let's talk about Rousey first. Really quick. Did you pay for that fight?
Starting point is 00:03:06 So, well, it depends how you mean. No, I didn't. I didn't because I figured it was going to be over. I was going to catch the six-second, the vine that was going around of her knockout in the first round. But I put together a substantial parlay with two football winners, like Michigan, Michigan State. Then I had Golden State money line over the Nets, which as Rousey was coming to the ring, they should have lost in regulation, but they won in overtime.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I actually saw that game. You did, right? It was a ludicrous win. Right. The Nets win that game 99 out of 100 times. Dream on Green takes the three-pounder. It was stupid. So I'm like, that's it.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I got this Ronda Rousey. And then she just got the crap kicked out of her like no one's better. I don't know enough about MMA to know what happened in that fight, but it really did seem like she had no game plan whatsoever. It reminded me of Mike Tyson in Japan just stumbling around with his two buddies in the corner.
Starting point is 00:03:58 That's what it was. This girl just hit her over and over again with her left. But that's kind of what we always thought that MMA would be. Didn't we always think, oh, a good boxer will take out an all-around fighter just out of quickness and everything?
Starting point is 00:04:12 I know she hit her, she knocked her out with a spinning back kick or something, but... Which didn't totally connect. I don't know how that... I think her hitting her head on the canvas. Yeah, but she got pounded with the fist before that. But why can't...
Starting point is 00:04:25 I don't understand enough about MMA, and I'm sure this will make people mad, because MMA people don't like anyone talking about MMA unless you know all the moves and stuff. Don't comment on the... Don't comment on MMA. No. I don't understand if...
Starting point is 00:04:37 I thought the person on the ground could always beat the boxer. Like, they just have to get them on the ground, and then they can do stuff. If they could get them on the ground, yeah. But why couldn't Rousey just figure out how to get her? She went toe-to-toe. Yeah. It seemed like she was totally happy to box her, which I didn't get.
Starting point is 00:04:52 She's beaten a hell of a lot of women before, just toe-to-toe. But this, you know, she's a boxing champ she's going against. Well, I'm very excited for the rematch. This has to be the greatest thing that could have happened in the UFC. Right. And the other thing, we talked about it. We were texting about this. to be the greatest thing that could have happened in the ufc right and the other thing we talked about we were texting about this i did the phil sims we talked about it yesterday when we were texting i get tons of tweets and everything i'd say we have ruined football for people who have to watch phil sims now twice a week we just ruined it well phil sims i
Starting point is 00:05:19 it might be over for him really it really might really might be over. The Pats drive yesterday, he talked about how Tom Brady played it perfectly. The first play of the drive was a throw to two guys and the guy just dropped the interception. The game's over. It was like one of the five worst throws of his career. Yeah, it was bad. Because if he didn't get it,
Starting point is 00:05:38 the guy behind him was getting it. He just lets that go. So we talked about yesterday on texting, and Sal, we talked about this, that UFC, it's like they build up these invincible champs, and then right around the third or fourth fight where they're totally invincible, they just get upset and they lose. And we should remember this for gambling purposes.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah, and I think it's because they're on their game, UFC, because they're not like pro boxing where you'll spread out a rematch or or just a great fight for what could have been a great fight I don't know if it was ever going to be great Pacquiao Mayweather but yeah that took 10 years like UFC you have an opponent then you have another one four months later and that's it and like you can't go two years without being undefeated yeah it does seem in boxing it seems like the right person wins almost all the time. Right. You might get the lucky punch every once in a while.
Starting point is 00:06:28 But for the most part, Mayweather's going to beat Pacquiao eight or nine out of ten times. UFC does seem more random. Right. But Rousey was messed up after that fight. Her face was really beat up. Felt bad for her. I think they should fight. The rematch should be like a Black Friday thing.
Starting point is 00:06:45 They put hair extensions on. They just go for the last hoverboard on the shelf. That's it. Last woman standing. Do it. All right, Giants-Pats. Tough spot for you. Two teams you hate.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I know, I know. I was like, the podcast will be so much better if the Patriots lose, but how could I root for these Giants? I don't understand how Brady was able to pull off a final drive with no Deion Lewis and no Edelman. Here we go. It's just amazing. I mean, granted, the draft started with a dropped interception,
Starting point is 00:07:17 so I'm not going to praise him too much, but that had to have been one of the only drives in his career to win a game where he had no third down back. The third down back thing is a real thing. I don't think people have paid enough attention to it. But you have Amendola, fill that void. You have LaFell and Gronkowski. That's as good or better than
Starting point is 00:07:34 most teams, I think. Amendola and LaFell? Sure, why not? That's a below average one-two combo. Look at these other teams. What are they doing it with? That's true. I guess it's as good as Carolina. Theyed and Brandon Cook. They took out Gronk. They're triple teaming him.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah. Yeah. Look, you're king of the hill. You're the best team by far. Stop it. You are. It's a long season. It's not a long season.
Starting point is 00:07:54 This long season is over for many of these teams. I think you're on top. I think you're using anger to you there. Well, it's always going to be like this. What am I going to do? The Giants lost. That's good for you. Good use of time, Tom Coughlin.
Starting point is 00:08:09 They ran like four plays in 19 seconds. Incredible. How do you not know you're leaving Tom Brady too much time there? Why do you run the quick pass timing pattern with 2.06 left until the time? Yeah. It was impossible for us to get the ball as fast as we got the ball. We had the two-minute warning and a timeout. First down with 2.06 left.
Starting point is 00:08:28 The first down play has to get to the two-minute warning. Just has to. I don't care what the play is. You have to get to the two-minute warning. Second down play, you run it. We have to call a timeout. And then third down, whatever happens, it shouldn't have played out the way it played out.
Starting point is 00:08:43 That was terrible. It was bad. I actually had a lot of faith that they were going to screw that up. I remember thinking to myself, if anyone can give us the ball back with like 100 seconds left, it's the Giants. And they did. I get dozens of these, so you must get thousands of these. People telling you, oh, you're so arrogant thinking you're better than all these coaches. Well, of course we're not.
Starting point is 00:09:01 We're not good at scheming and we're not good at player placement. Stuff like that will never be as good as the these coaches. Well, of course we're not. We're not good at scheming, and we're not good at player placement. Stuff like that will never be as good as the current coaches. But as far as time management goes, I think we are. I don't think it is being arrogant. I think we watch every game. We watch eight games in the morning. We watch thousands of games. That's what we have over these other coaches.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Or else, what's the explanation otherwise? I think we're both better than Rob Ryan, though. Yeah. I really do think I could have a better defense. I think the Saints agree with us. You just give me like a week to be like, alright guys, so Kirk Cousins, so here's what we're going to do. I feel like we can do better. They let him go. They let him go like an hour
Starting point is 00:09:34 before this podcast tape. But he says he'll be working in five minutes. Well, shouldn't one of these TV networks throw him on immediately? Yeah. Couldn't he be with Berman? I think he could do that. Berman, teach, Rob! He's got to look for it,
Starting point is 00:09:49 unless Chipotle gives him a better offer. I don't know where he's going to work, this guy. Well, here's what I think with time management. You know how when we're getting ready in the morning and our kids are going to school, everybody's running around, trying to feed the kids quick, did you remember your knapsack, all that stuff,
Starting point is 00:10:03 and then occasionally the wife will leave the house and somebody's knapsack is still in the house. Right. Maybe that's what it's like for Tom Coughlin on the sideline. He's trying to figure out all these different things. He's like, oh, I totally forgot to not run that play to the two-minute warning. I'm so stupid. I like that.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah. He forgot he has kids that are going to school. Yeah, I know. I know. I understand. Did you think that was a catch? No. No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Here's the thing. I don't think it was based on everything else. I think at some point it should be a catch. They need to change it. Are you okay with two feet down in possession? Because I'm okay with that well what i don't understand is so a running back is is getting tackled yeah and puts the ball over the goal line for a split second it's a touchdown because he's a runner yeah yeah so i guess it makes sense in principle
Starting point is 00:11:00 that to catch the ball you have to establish the possession of the ball right and then you're a runner right it would seem like beckham had the ball longer than cam newton did that play yesterday when you reach the ball over the goal line for a split second and that's the part i don't understand i know i know one thing should be a bigger touch yeah i just want to understand it like do you know when you're legally parked like if you're six inches from the curb and your wheels are turned the right way or whatever, like, yeah, okay, I'm legally parked. I know what that looks like. I just want to know what a catch looks like.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And I'm okay with two feet down and possession. Now, they say that changes the record books and everything, but who gives a crap? Like there's so many pass interference calls that weren't made 20 years ago. Like, don't you? I mean, I would say the rule's working a little bit because when i watched it i never thought it was a catch but that's because in your head because in my head we had had other instances of that not being a catch i was like that's not a catch they're gonna overrule this right what was weird was the refs really wanted to make it a catch
Starting point is 00:12:00 because they all get in there screwing the patriots let's be honest they tried they looked at it there was think they were? It was some really shady calls. Was Goodell in the house? Oh, come on. Was he in there though? Was he at the game? I think he was, wasn't he? Look. Which calls? I don't remember. I saw the Giants getting to Brady.
Starting point is 00:12:17 There was one pass interference where Malcolm Butler didn't even touch Beckham. No, that was bad. Butler versus Beckham was fantastic. That was fun to watch. So I had my daughter's last soccer game of first season was yesterday. And it was at 220. Pat's Giants started at 120.
Starting point is 00:12:35 So what do you do if you're me? Oh, man. You know, these days, I watch my kid's flag football game. And I had the phone. And I was just watching the end of the Cowboys game on the phone and i was just watching the end of the cowboys game on the app i was just watching the streaming yeah so i decided to go to the soccer game because i thought from karma purposes if i just said sorry z i'm not going right then the so i went and i was like i'm not gonna check the score oh wow and um shrifty's there uh our friend
Starting point is 00:13:02 shrifty giants fan and at one point he's giving me the upright check and we're down 2010 and but we got in the car and i got to see the whole fourth quarter and then i went back and watched right and uh the edelman yeah it's bad it's not good it's not good you're freaking on it's not good i don't not good. You're freaking undefeated. It's not good. I don't want to hear about your injuries. It's not good. Go ahead. I think the Bengals are in the driver's seat now.
Starting point is 00:13:29 The Pats, I've never felt worse about it. I don't know an undefeated team in mid-November of my life. It's really silly to say that you're not in the driver's seat, but let's take it by conference. Why aren't the Bengals in the driver's seat? Which two AFC teams are you most afraid to play in the AFC championship? Is it the Bengals? Definitely not the Broncos.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Or is it the Steelers? I'm not even including the Broncos anymore. The Steelers, Ben Roethlisberger, his foot. I thought it had to be amputated a week ago. I watched the game. I was like, my God, he's going to lose his foot. It's going to be like Kerry Von Erich. He's going to have to have a fake boot.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And then he's back. And then he said today it was because he drank a lot of milk. He drank milk. Yeah. He drank a lot of milk. Wow. Yeah. So that was good.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Good to know that one. Greatest relief performance by a quarterback ever. And we had like 208, like something crazy coming on and relief. So they were obviously trying to get through that game without playing him just because the Browns gave up three weeks ago. Right. The Browns gave up three weeks ago and every week we don't bet against them. Yeah, but remember we said they were a good first-half team?
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yeah. Now they're not even that anymore. Yeah. Don't worry. Add the Steelers and Packers on a Moneyline parlay that lost. Don't worry about it. I have a feeling any parlays and teases lost this week. Well, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:14:41 You and I, in the middle of the week, you're like, Hey, we should take all the mid-range dogs on the money line. We should do it. And I was like, great, let's do it. And I was even going to bug you about it yesterday, but I was like, you know what? Rousey lost. I got to go with the short things. I got to go Packers, and I should have stopped myself there on a money line with whoever.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And that just killed me. But let's take a look at those mid-range underdogs. Jaguars. Can you give us the Phil Simms setup, though? Go ahead. You do it. What is it? Sal, we talked about those mid-range underdogs. Jaguars. Can you give us the Phil Simms setup, though? Go ahead. You do it. What is it? Sal, we talked about those mid-range underdogs earlier in the week, and we were talking about it.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Jaguars, Lions. We talked about the Titans, Bears, Dolphins, Giants. We wouldn't have done the Lions, though. Well, the Lions were six. Why not? Did you put the Dolphins in there? Yeah. Those six.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Four of them won. They were almost all three to one odds. Chiefs chiefs were on there but the chief sign just dropped but initially the chiefs were on there yeah yeah because they were like six i figured it out five out of those seven winners we would have netted 3.71 million dollars wow split not not like a fan duel thing we'd have to we'd have to split it but that's what we would have won so we were saying that if we hit three of the seven, we'd win because all the odds would be like plus 180 and higher. And then it turned out to be more than that.
Starting point is 00:15:54 The Broncos thing. So yet again, this happened last year too. Peyton Manning was awful. And then Monday morning, Adam Schefter, sources tell Adam Schefter, and there's some injury that explains why Peyton Manning was so terrible and then it happened again today last time this happened they said he had like a it was like a torn quad muscle right and then the Denver beat reporter said no no it's not a torn quad my sources say it's just a strain and there was like a he said she
Starting point is 00:16:21 said thing about so it does seem like Manning and i don't blame him for this but every time he's terrible all of a sudden the injury news comes out 12 hours later no but it was on it came out like friday or saturday or the line went from six and a half to four because it came out that he was a little banged up his ribs and then now this but now it's like he's torn yeah he's got a torn plantar fasciitis thing going on in his foot he had it the whole time why do they even have injury reports? Right, I know. Everybody's hurt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Everybody's... But just tell us. Tell us. Why not tell us earlier? This is why gambling's not legal, because there'd be a class action suit against people that bet the Broncos. You're right. And there should be.
Starting point is 00:16:57 But let me ask you, is Peyton Manning the most overrated and underrated player of all time? I put Derek Jeter, and you're Larry Bird in there too. Larry Bird? What are you talking about? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:17:13 I can't believe I got a reaction. What are you talking about? Most overrated and underrated. Yeah. People say he's the greatest of all time. He won three titles. Is he the greatest of all time? He won three straight MVPs. Everyone in Boston says he's top two top two
Starting point is 00:17:25 players the greatest forward ever until lebron started playing 100 games a year it's ridiculous all right so so it's not liar bird is that the most over and underrated i think the cheater case could is not bad and payton's right there cal ripken jr think, is up there. Interesting. Over and under. Interesting. With Manning, though, I mean, are you blown away with surprise and shock that Peyton Manning couldn't last 10 weeks? No, no. He's 40 years old. He's had four neck surgeries, and he can't move anymore.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I mean, this was where this was headed. Sure, but two weeks ago he demolished the packers who are no longer great as we'd say but you know he was back like this football's week to week with this stuff i know but remember we were saying how they should just not even play him till november he's manning sit him out yeah just sit him out september october right try to just go go four and four right and then try to go 10 weeks with Manning. I think that's the move with him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:28 It's like when the Astros with Clemens those last two years. Remember they would just bring him in in June? They were smart about it. Maybe he should be on a pitch count like Harvey was for a little bit. Like four passes, that's it. Am I allowed to start getting excited about the chiefs afc west bet that we made in august for plus 300 i don't know what i'm not allowed to get excited about that too bad what are there's three back but they've beaten denver right and they really should have beat
Starting point is 00:18:54 them that for it was at that yeah thursday night game week two three or yeah so they split with them yeah san diego is a catastrophe the raiders have now been exposed and the and uh who's the other team oh yeah in denver and kc why can't kc win that division they could be good do i need to go through the schedule do i need to bring dog out i think we're out already though it's it's 10 what do you mean broncos pay broncos play the patriots all right i'll look at the broncos hold on let me give you the Chiefs. All right. At San Diego Sunday night. That is...
Starting point is 00:19:32 That's not a Sunday night anymore. It's a late afternoon. Oh, it got tweaked? It got moved because the Chargers are that bad. At San Diego, home for Buffalo. At Oakland, home for San Diego. At Baltimore, home for Cleveland and Oakland. They home for San Diego, at Baltimore, home for Cleveland and Oakland. They might run the slate.
Starting point is 00:19:48 They go 10-6 or 11-5. I didn't realize that. I think they go 5-2 out of those 7. Is that 7 left? Denver's got at Chicago next week with Brock Osweiler or whatever his name. What's his name? Brock Osweiler? Yeah. Osweiler. Brooke Osweiler?
Starting point is 00:20:05 Watch him win the game. What's hisiler? Yeah. Osweiler. Brooke Osweiler? Watch him win the game. What's his name? Brock. Brock. Brock Osweiler. He's starting next week. I know. They're home for the Pats at San Diego, home for Oakland at Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Cincy Monday night. They play a first place schedule. Home in Denver and then San Diego. They could lose the Chicago. They could lose the Pats. I think they end up 11-5. So Chiefs have to go 11-5. They could go the Pats. I think they end up 11-5. So Chiefs have to go 10-6. It could be 10-6. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Who's that last game, Denver? Home for the San Diego Chargers. Yeah. That could be the one they need to win. Can I do a Skip Bayless hot take? Yeah, let's hear it. Peyton Manning. Stephen A. I'm not accusing Peyton Manning of anything. I'm just pointing this out. Peyton Manning. Stephen A. No. I'm not accusing Peyton Manning anything. I'm just pointing this out.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Peyton Manning knew he was hurt. He needed four more yards for the record. And he played anyway. He put his team in danger. He knew he shouldn't have played Stephen A. He knew it. That's true. It's a selfish act by a selfish guy.
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Starting point is 00:22:15 They're our friends. They keep you safe. Simplysafebill.com. All right, week 11. Here we go. I didn't do that well in week 10 And I think we have now Hit the point of the season where Pretty much everyone could beat everyone every week
Starting point is 00:22:30 And we just have to be prepared emotionally for that I don't feel good about any team I don't either And these lines are They fly all over the place And like we said they're no longer on the 3's Or the 6's or the 7's It's 1, 2, I don't want to ruin it
Starting point is 00:22:44 How about yesterday There was an 18-16 on the threes or the sixes or the sevens. Oh, my God. It's one, two. I don't want to ruin it for... How about yesterday? I mean, there was like, what was it? There was an 18-16? Yeah. When have we ever had an 18-16 game? Right. These scores are ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Can I just say, before we get into this, so it was a mess. Arizona was my best bet, my TV best bet. But I was so disillusioned by the end of the day. I was like, I'm not taking them. This is a big mess. So what everyone says is the under in the first half of the primetime games is 23-6 in the first half. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:15 So I said, all right, Seattle, Arizona, I'll take it under. That's my bounce back game. I'm doing it first half under 22. It's 5-0. 5-0 with eight minutes left in the second quarter and that freaking half goes over 22 to 7 no one's trying to score Carson by their handing off it's ridiculous Seattle's getting uh two holding calls a drive and punting five nothing and I lose 22 seven and then the best bet wins Arizona I feel like after we finish this podcast I'm gonna we're
Starting point is 00:23:43 gonna be walking out and you're going to ask me for a loan because you got demolished this weekend. Did you get demolished this weekend? Yeah, yeah. It was a bad weekend. I blame Ronda Rousey. And SimpliSafe. You know what? They weren't there for me. SimpliSafe could have protected you from all this. They should have protected me.
Starting point is 00:24:00 They should add a gambling protection wing to the alarm system. Yeah, the Rondai Rousey. You're no longer allowed to throw in minus 800 UFC fighters into your parlays. I think you're right. I'm banning you from that. I might be done. All right, let's do week 11.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Thursday night is just an electric game that we'll be telling our grandkids about someday. Yeah. Tennessee at Jacksonville. And the colorblind suffered Thursday, and I think the actual blind will be better off this Thursday. This is the best case scenario. This is bad. I loved how bad the colorblind people got about those uniforms.
Starting point is 00:24:34 They were furious. They were really, and I don't blame them. Who knew? How do you watch that game if you're colorblind? They had two dark uniforms. Yeah, dark red. And then the NFL, instead of being profusely apologetic, the NFL's like, yeah, we're going to look into that.
Starting point is 00:24:48 It's like, oh, thanks. We had no idea. As usual. Three years from now, we'll have an answer on what to do, because that's how we roll. Did you pick this? What did you say? I had the Jags minus four, and I like the Jags. I said Jags minus six, and it's three. So you get this one.
Starting point is 00:25:04 But the Jags are three and six, and it's three. So you get this one. But the Jags are three and six, Tennessee two and seven. The Jags are better, and they're home, and it's three? They're considered even otherwise? That's not right, is it? Was there a worse loss this year than Baltimore's loss this year? For a decade, I think. That was insane.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I thought the Giants in week one was the worst loss of the year, and the Ravens, nobody cares because they were like two and seven or two and six but that that was the word like if you had the ravens money line in that game you you just you're still walking around in a fog it it yeah right right it had a it had a professional wrestling uh element to it where bordles takes a snap and falls and it falls like if he doesn't fall it's over too probably and also don't forget the part it seemed like they snapped after a little after the zeros but then they showed it and it was like a split second before so close he got it off and then doomerville comes doesn't even really need to touch him and then just yanks him around by the face mask puts him in field goal range the guy who missed this myers, and he cranks it in. Ludicrous.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Bad, bad loss. Even if he doesn't face mask him and Bortles is just running around trying to make a play, the time would have run out anyway. What is he going to do? He's going to run around, point his feet, and just throw a Hail Mary. Awful. But the Ravens deserve it because they blew the whistle on the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:26:22 All bad things that happen to them, I approve of. The Jaguars aren't bad. They're a feisty team. They are. Bortles is... You know what I like about Bortles? He can throw a terrible pass and he's fine. The next drive, he'll...
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah. He comes back. And Hearns and Robinson, they're big playmakers. Not terrible. These are the people who will be deciding fantasy leagues in week 15 and 17. Hearns, Robinson, and Bortles. You're not kidding. I should mention New Orleans, Giants, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland on the bye.
Starting point is 00:26:50 This is the last bye week of the year. And that's it. Thanks to the NFL. They gave us nine early games and two late afternoon games. Thanks again, NFL. That's great. Good job by you. How were the Pats and the Giants not the national game yesterday?
Starting point is 00:27:08 That was weird, wasn't it? It wasn't the national game, and yet Sims and Nance called it, right? Yeah. That was strange. And, you know, as much as I hate the Giants, I think if you lose in the last second field goal to the Patriots, you should be given your division. I think the Giants should win the division just based on on losing to the patriots on the last second it is so funny how in football that like the first time we played them
Starting point is 00:27:31 in the super bowl was what eight years ago nine almost eight and a half years ago and yet the giants and their fans still feel like we can beat the patriots like it doesn't matter who's on whose team there's just in football you have these teams you just feel like you can beat. The Giants go in, they have a ton of confidence. Yeah, but you felt that too on the other side, right? I was nervous the whole time, yeah. That's our arch rival now. It's weird. It's weird to have an arch rival in the other conference.
Starting point is 00:27:55 That you play every four years unless it's the Super Bowl. Because it used to be the Colts, but then you know, now we own the Colts. Terrible. Dallas at Miami. Here we go. Oh, man. Tony Romo back. It's a must-loss for the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Tony Romo back. He's playing. Oh, I'm going to switch my pick. Dolphins by three. I said Dolphins by two and a half. Yeah. It's Cowboys by one. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:28:23 The two and seven cowboys. So you have not you've not won a game since Greg Hardy showed up. Oh, yeah. Before that, even. Yeah. He's like the lost
Starting point is 00:28:35 character that everybody hates on the message boards and then they figure out a way to kill them off. That's right. He'll be on.
Starting point is 00:28:42 We'll be he will be on the team over under ten and a half more days is he on the team 11 days from now i think let's see i think he plays one game with ramon des and everybody just to see what happens and then if they lose that meetings he's fighting with offensive linemen he's he's doing all this other stuff during the week, too. That's ancillary to all the other horrible stuff. But when does Vince McMahon hire him? Do you think he'll be ready in time for Royal Rumble in January?
Starting point is 00:29:13 Do you think so? Yeah, why not? Yeah, get him in there. He'd be a top three villain. They don't have a villain as good as Greg Hardy. That's true. I like that. He's come in.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I'm not going to apologize for anything I've done. He does that whole thing. Weren't there Hardy brothers or something in the WWE? Jeff Hardy? Oh yeah, he could be the new member of the Hardy brothers. Jeff Hardy's long lost brother. They never knew they were related.
Starting point is 00:29:37 That should be his next move though. Because it seems like he actually embraces the fact that he's a bad human being. He's okay with it. He doesn't care what people think. I'm a bad person. I don't care what you think. I wonder if Vince McMahon would turn him down for character issues.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I don't think so. I don't want him. That would be funny if he drew the line right there. That's where it is. We should probably be playing for draft picks at this point. What's funny is you're not done yet. Nine and seven could still win that division. That's not funny. And the draft picks at this point. What's funny is you're not done yet. 9-7 could still win that division. That's not funny.
Starting point is 00:30:08 And the Eagles are atrocious. What a terrible team. You look at the Dolphins-Eagles game. It's like, oh, maybe the Dolphins are good. No, no, no. Don't even count that as any game that you just saw. What's frustrating about the Eagles is they can do things well. They have a good pass rush.
Starting point is 00:30:22 They have talent. I wonder if they had a different coach it feels like that would be maybe an 11 and 5 team or something chip kelly we'll get to that line i don't think chip kelly's good i think everyone's afraid of them though vegas especially that keeps making them big favorites and everything it's very strange to me there is no way they should have lost to miami i watched a lot of that game barnwell came over yesterday we were watching uh and it was almost a turnoff at one point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:47 And then Miami was kind of lingering. But Miami doesn't have Cameron Wake. They barely have a pass rush. That's not a team you should lose to in Philadelphia. Bradford goes out, which is now a season that you know that's going to happen once a season. He's going to walk out as some sort of shoulder thing. But he's playing this week, right? It's the other shoulder and the concussion.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Well, what do you think this line is? Oh, this is a different game. Oh, we did this. I have the Eagles by six over Tampa in Philadelphia. So we may as well move to that one. I said four and a half, and you're right. It's six and a half. But like I said, it really just seems like everyone's just afraid of Chip Kelly
Starting point is 00:31:24 exploding with this offense. I like Tampa. I it really just seems like everyone's just afraid of Chip Kelly exploding with this offense. I like Tampa. I think Jameis has a little something, something. He's got a little something. Even though he almost fumbled on the goal line. No,
Starting point is 00:31:32 he did fumble on the goal line. He did. And they called holding. They called it back. even after, even though Jameis had committed to running, don't even get me started. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Yeah. All right. Okay. I won't get you started. You know what it is Jason Garrett should be fired but I think Jerry Jones is so old
Starting point is 00:31:48 it's like getting your grandparents to go on a plane or to change from VCR to DVD player like no no no we're happy it's like oh but your life
Starting point is 00:31:57 would be so much easier if you're watching Blu-ray instead of these tapes that no one makes anymore it's like no just leave me alone I want to be the way I want to be that's it that's why jason garrett has a job now i think i'm getting that
Starting point is 00:32:09 way you are yeah i think i'm starting to move in that direction my mom was like that with netflix for like three and a half years just wouldn't do netflix we're like you got to do netflix all the movies are on there these shows you'll love it no i don't know i can't figure it out she loves she watches everything on netflix she's like the number one like weird Netflix show person right and the same thing with HBO now it's like no no I already have HBO no no but they have the old series on there you should do it no no I can't I don't know how to log in the HBO now thing you just threw in because you realize you were being a jerk with the Netflix. No, not at all. I love it.
Starting point is 00:32:48 All right, Jerry Jones, get HBO now. Let's do it already. St. Louis at Baltimore. God. I have Baltimore by one and a half over St. Louis. I have figured out the Rams, though, finally. That's exactly what I had, one and a half, and it's St. Louis favored by one. Okay. That's two road teams, very slight. You figured out the Rams, though, finally. That's exactly what I had, one and a half. And it's St. Louis favored by one. Okay. That's two road teams, very slight.
Starting point is 00:33:08 You figured out the Rams. I figured out the Rams. Have you figured out how we could sell off our Rams to win the NFC bet? That I have not figured out. We're screwed with that. We're screwed with the Rockets. There's a lot of inner turmoil with the Rockets right now. There's just a lot of bets.
Starting point is 00:33:21 We're in bad shape. Bad gambling shape. But we have our Patriots-AFC East bet that we're going to win. Oh, that's true. That's going to cover a lot of bets. We're in bad shape. Bad gambling shape. But we have our Patriots-AFC East bet that we're going to win. Oh, that's true. That's going to cover a lot of bets. How does that lose? We put a lot of money in that one. St. Louis, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Now they're 35-1? They were 61? Well, they've lost their last two since we bet on them to win the NFC. We're in trouble. What? I have not relaxed. All right. I relaxed with the Packers.
Starting point is 00:33:43 I just think you get down 10 points and it's bad. That was how I've... Yeah, I think if they're down seven, the game's over. Yeah. So really, they're the best real-time gambling team. If you're in Vegas and you can bet on the results as the game's going on. You can see and get a sense. Yeah, if they're down three-nothing, you just start banging the other team the other team three nothing as soon as the ribs don't have the lead it's over
Starting point is 00:34:09 they don't have the ball yet yeah and i agree and there's tayvon austin they try to force like seven to ten carries on him and it he'll break one and then yesterday twice it was called for penalty it was brought back but now that rob ryan's, I think Jeff Fisher is the new, wait a second, why does he still have a job? Really? Yeah. He's been 8-8 for a decade and a half. I know. Well, he can blame us as much as we can blame him for betting them.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I think that was the problem. What's sad is that I love the recipe of really good run game, really good defense, and yet I've disparaged the Minnesota Vikings for four straight weeks. We had the exact same recipe and do it better than the Rams did. And beat the Rams last week. And beat the Rams.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And so where was I in the Vikings? No, you're right. All these Viking fans who were like, oh, you keep going against us. All right, well, I'm on your side now, so you can blame me now that I'm picking you. But let me ask you this. I asked you about the against us. All right, well, I'm on your side now. So you can blame me now that I'm picking you. But let me ask you this. I asked you about the AFC.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Yeah. NFC. Who in the Super Bowl? Patriots. Who do you want the opponent to be? That's why we did that stupid Rams bet. Arizona, Minnesota. Who are you more afraid of?
Starting point is 00:35:16 Arizona, Minnesota, or Carolina? I thought that was a really important Cardinals game yesterday. They were damn good. Because they lose their best run blocking guard. They lose a big lead. They have a bunch of dumb stuff happen. They're in Seattle that just had all the makings of the classic Seahawks turn their season around.
Starting point is 00:35:37 And then they just, they really like throttled them. I was so impressed. Although Seattle's secondary might suck. Is that possible? Well, I think, here's the thing. Always going to be big hits over the middle. Always going to be tough guys. But they're a little thin.
Starting point is 00:35:53 They're a little thin now in the secondary. And they don't have the home field advantage. And the Ravens aren't good. And the Packers don't blow anyone out. There's like five narratives that we have to just kind of get rid of from now on. But after the second strip sack of the Seahawks, you thought they were going to win that game by 21 points, right? There's no way Arizona takes two 80-yard drives to win that game afterwards.
Starting point is 00:36:17 That was very impressive. And also the Seahawks were like plus two with turnovers at home. That game should be over. Right. They got a defensive touchdown. I don't know. I'm writing them off. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:31 The Seahawks? Yeah. You don't have to be sorry. Yeah. I gave them a huge benefit of the doubt, but there's something stinky with that team. So I don't know who the second wild card is. You figure Minnesota and Green Bay make it? Atlanta and Green Bay. I don't think who the second wild card is. You figure Minnesota and Green Bay make it. Atlanta and Green Bay.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I don't think Atlanta's good. Would you bet your life on Atlanta making the playoffs? I think six and three. I think they still play the AFC South and their division a little bit. Let me look at their skid. Hold on. I might have written this one down. Home for Indy.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Home for Minnesota. At Tampa. At Carolina. At Jacksonville. Home for Carolina and New Orleans. God, that's a terrible schedule. Yeah, there's four more wins there, I think. So if they beat Indy this week, they're probably making the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Yeah. They'll get to 10, I think. Can any... Let's do that game. Are we sure the Bears can't make the playoffs? They're fun to watch. They are fun. Home for Denver, at Green Bay on a Thursday,
Starting point is 00:37:23 home for San Francisco, Washingtonhington at Minnesota at Tampa. Home for Detroit. They don't play Atlanta at all? Like if they play head-to-head with one of these teams, it would help. No, they didn't play the Falcons this year. Let's do Denver at Chicago. Yeah, let's do Denver at Chicago. This would have been a great game.
Starting point is 00:37:40 John Fox, old team. Brock Cocktoast didn't play. Who's the quarterback? Brock Osweiler. Brock Cocktoast didn't play. Who's the quarterback? Brock Osweiler. Brock Cocktoast didn't. Let me see if I have the right line here. Broncos by one? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:56 This is going to be a mess. Yeah, I said Broncos by three, and it's two. I like the Bears. We tie anyway. All right, good. Adam Gay's doing a great job with that offense. Washington and Carolina. Panthers by seven and a half. This could be
Starting point is 00:38:13 the game they blow. We've been saying that for seven straight weeks, but this really does feel like it has the chance to be the game. You nailed it. Seven and a half. I said eight and a half. You think this is the one, huh? Washington scores a lot. Should we tease this with Ronda Rousey announcing her retirement from UFC and then changing her mind a month later?
Starting point is 00:38:33 She's not retiring. No way. No way. Caroline's got to be 10-0, and then the Cowboys have to be up winning by 17 against him on Thanksgiving and then blow it, right? That's what's going to happen. Your Thanksgiving's already ruined it. It hasn't even happened yet.
Starting point is 00:38:48 At least try to eat some porch pies. Get some porch pies. Yeah? I thought Cam Newton acted like a dick when he scored. Yeah, you did? He's just a dick to the Tennessee defense. And then he's like, hey, guys, don't let me score there. It's like you acted like a dick for 10 seconds.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I was just going to say, you don't want me dancing the end zone? What do you do, Bill guys don't let me score there it's like you were acting like a dick for 10 seconds i was just gonna say you don't want me dancing the end zone what do you do bill don't let him get there don't let him get there i listened to four sports shows and they basically just repeated his comment but made it their own don't let him get there guys that's how you don't see him dance yeah but you know what though you do that stuff and then all of a sudden somebody's crack back blocking you on a on a pick when you're not looking because you're a dick yeah it's true i don't think there's any reason he's probably the mvp leader right now him and brady right yeah it's those two maybe carson palmer let's see i love carson palmer i really do i think he's let's see brady minus, minus 200. Cam, plus 280. Carson Palmer, 10 to 1.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Andy Dalton, 12 to 1. Rogers, 15 to 1. Rogers? Peterson, 50 to 1. Oh. Peterson, you know... Peterson, if he reels off a few more of those 80-yarders... Could he get to 2,000 yards?
Starting point is 00:40:00 I don't know. What if they're a two-seed and he gets to 2,000 yards? Yeah. 50 to 1. Boy, that'll be some MVP speech. We have to do that. That would be a good way to jinx the Vikings. We could do that.
Starting point is 00:40:09 All right. Oakland at Detroit. Way to all the people who love to get outraged about stuff. Peterson winning the MVP would be a good one. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You might be the most valuable player, Adrian, but you're not the most valuable person. I'll tell you that much.
Starting point is 00:40:27 A lot of that. The Outrage Society will hate that. Valuable man. Oakland at Detroit. What do we have? Maybe you should donate your trophy. Oakland, I have... I can't even find it.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Oh, I have them favored by one and a half in Detroit. Oh, come on. I know I'm wrong. No, you're exactly right. How do you pick that? The Lions are terrible. I threw my hands up. I said that's a pick.
Starting point is 00:40:50 You said Oakland by one and a half. It is one and a half. Here's why I'm not going to relax with the Packers. The Lions are terrible, and they won in Lambeau. Of course. They're not good at football. No. And they lost another guy yesterday.
Starting point is 00:41:02 You know what happened? I had money on Green Bay, and at some point I was like, not that I was rooting for Detroit, but I was like, this would be bad. This would be bad. Maybe I'm just not betting enough is the problem. Or I'm a really good human being. No, I'm not betting enough.
Starting point is 00:41:17 But Detroit, I mean, Calvin Johnson never looked like he wanted to play for another team more than when he dropped that onside kick. Really, just, it's like, I'm not going to be here in a few weeks that's it i want you guys to get another first rounder what is going on prater has the field goal record the longest field goal he's missing extra points it's like how is this team and then green bay was right in it i i've been saying this for a couple weeks and i'm going to say it more emphatically this week i'm not going to relax with the packers their receivers can't get open. No, they can't.
Starting point is 00:41:46 We had that game on most of the game. Every pass, it's like Rodgers throwing a pass with the guy jumping over the defensive back or the guy's right there. He has to throw it over the back shoulder. The guys are never, ever, ever open. It is very strange. The guys who get open are the tight ends.
Starting point is 00:42:03 These random tight ends I've never heard of. Those are the only guys in the team who can get open but they had like 47 yards rushing at home you can't do that that's not packer football you have to mix it up a little bit but i have some gluten-free secrets for eddie lacy what is it oh really to get to get back in the shape i just i think maybe maybe skip a few lunches get it robex juice it seems like a beaten carrot juice yeah um i would definitely not eat bread i would just get rid of bread and i would cut out desserts for like three weeks what about thanksgiving i wouldn't overdo it eddie lacy there's so much with cheese in that in the in wisconsin what are you gonna do i here's the thing i you think green bay is gonna right the ship at
Starting point is 00:42:42 some point right no really I really don't. I don't think they're that good. Let's go to that game. It's now mid-November, and this is when we can really figure out who's good and not good. And Green Bay needed to win that game yesterday, and they blew it, and they didn't look good, and I'm not relaxing. All right. They needed to win that game.
Starting point is 00:42:59 They're at Minnesota this week. If they crush Minnesota, we're back on Green Bay now, right? Now it's like Green Bay's a top team. What do you think? I believe in the Vikings. I have them by two and a half only because I think Vegas half point just throws it the Packers way
Starting point is 00:43:14 because they know people love to bet on Green Bay. Wait till you see what Vegas do with this one. I said Minnesota by one. The Green Bay better not be favored. It's a pick. Don't do it. It's a pick. What?
Starting point is 00:43:22 It's a pick right now. It's absurd. They're't do it. It's a pick. What? It's a pick right now. It's absurd. They're not done betting Green Bay. I'll tell you one thing about Minnesota. Perfect cold weather team. Yeah. And it's outdoor stadium. Run the ball defense.
Starting point is 00:43:36 I don't trust Bridgewater even a little. But the Packers defense, that's the 85 Bears. You're going to hate the Vikings. I can tell you're getting a lot of hate mail. They're going to break my heart on Sunday. You're going to get a lot of hate mail from the fans. No, I want the Vikings to do well. And now you're back on them.
Starting point is 00:43:51 I got to say, I think I got too irrational with Bridgewater. I thought he was going to cost them a game, and I kept waiting for it. Yeah, he doesn't have to do that much. He's in the Trent Dilfer 2000 mode. It's fine. That defense is rock solid. I really like the defense. Yep. Colts at Falcons. We's fine. That defense is rock solid. I really like the defense. Yep.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Colts at Falcons. We didn't do this one yet? No. I don't even really want to do it. You want to just skip it? We can skip it. Falcons by three. This is the one I picked exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Minus six. Oh, no luck. No luck. Yeah. I'm not giving you a redo there. Yeah. Yeah. Although maybe healthy Matt Hasselbeck is better than injured
Starting point is 00:44:28 Andrew Luck and then who's their backup they have Charlie Whitehurst they brought in you know Charlie Whitehurst cost me $18,000 in 2010 he did? yeah remember when I was going to be in the top 5 in the super contest I just needed Sam Bradford and the Rams
Starting point is 00:44:43 is that before you had SimpliSafe way before I had SimpliSafe? It's way before I had SimpliSafe. Yeah, $18,000. Rams minus three at Seattle. Week 17. Oh, right, right, right. Super Contest. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The first time Sam Bradford really, really hurt me. Hurt my feelings. Was he the quarterback when New Orleans went there? It was like a nine-point wild card favorite. Charlie Whitehurst. Charlie Whitehurst. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Oh, yeah. He cost us there, too. Charlie Whitehurst cost gamblers across America like $20 million in two weeks. That was a lot. Because he looks like Jesus. Jets at Houston. Jets at Houston. God.
Starting point is 00:45:23 These games are awful. What's the best game? You know, the best game would have been Denver at Houston. God. These games are awful. What's the best game? You know, the best game would have been Denver at Chicago with the John Fox thing. But now, Osweiler. I have the Jets by three at Houston. And I like the Jets. We split this. I said two.
Starting point is 00:45:39 It's two and a half. I think that line moves to three after Houston loses by 30 points tonight. It's Cincinnati. Well, with this week, Cincinnati will probably lose by three touchdowns, right? I think that line moves to three after Houston loses by 30 points tonight in Cincinnati. Oh, man. Well, with this week, Cincinnati will probably lose by three touchdowns, right? The way this week is going. You think this is the Dalton gets hurt? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:45:55 But this has just been a crazy Ronda Rousey week. The Jets defense, 1,200 yards passing allowed. Do you still have your house? Did Ronda Rousey cost you your house? Are movers moving your furniture out right now? It's an hour-to-hour thing. Mayflower is moving the family to Baltimore. I love that you're trying to play it off that the Rousey thing didn't hurt that much. I would have won the Parle-Ams.
Starting point is 00:46:14 I know you said I put it with Green Bay and Denver. I didn't. You love to throw in the high, can't lose favorites. I know. I already lost with her. Kansas City at San Diego. Like I said, this was originally the Sunday night game. Now move back to 4 Eastern, 4-0-5.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Chiefs minus three. I think we ride the Chiefs for like four straight weeks. And then during one of those four weeks, Andy Reid will break our hearts and we can complain about him on a Monday podcast. We'll get our money's worth. You get this. I said Chiefs by two and a half. It is Chiefs by three.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Andy Reid, 15-2 now off a bye. Shouldn't he be just hired by teams to coach after a bye? Like the Mariano Rivera, just bring him in? I like that idea. Yeah. It's like, drop your buff, Andy. You're going to Tampa this week. They were just on a bye.
Starting point is 00:47:01 That's all he could do, right? He really enjoys bye weeks. Yeah. What do we do, right? He really enjoys bye weeks. Yeah. What do we do, though? I mean, Andy Reid coming off a stunning win versus San Diego at home. Like, two things. What do we do? Yeah, San Diego's playing on the road in San Diego.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Exactly. How dare they make him play it? I can't imagine the Chiefs fans really traveling. That's not a game where I don't think you'll see 30,000 Chiefs fans in the game. I don't even think it matters anymore. I don't know. All right. Speaking of home field advantages, San Francisco at Seattle. I mean, these are the afternoon games. What are you going to do? Why don't you take the kids to the mountains? It might be snow this weekend. Casey at San Diego, San Fran at Seattle. No way I'm doing that. Those are the afternoon games. I have the Seahawks favored by nine. I don't feel good about it.
Starting point is 00:47:47 You just beat me there. I said eight and a half. It's 10. Do you think there will be Legion of Boom t-shirts for sale for 50% off on the NFL Pro Shop? Oh, no. Because I'm definitely going to buy one and start wearing them ironically. Really? Legion of Boom.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Go for 80 yards on us again. It is rough. Can Richard Sherman write a first-person account of how the Legion of Boom died for MMQB? Oh, the poor Legion of Boom. I think we're going to find out that Arizona is much better than people think. Well, I was impressed yesterday. That was a good one.
Starting point is 00:48:21 And Andre Ellington continues to be the best player in the league during the seven plays a year that he plays. Yeah, right, right. But how manyllington continues to be the best player in the league during the seven plays a year that he plays. Yeah, right, right. But like how many running backs could have turned the corner on that run and gone down the sidelines? Like three? Yeah. I was thinking maybe... He's hurt right now. He just got hurt getting out of his car. I thought he should stop short at the
Starting point is 00:48:37 one. He almost gave him a chance to win. I'll tell you one thing. If he had done that, Chris Collinsworth would have had a Collinsgasm. Oh, what a smart play by Andre Alitina! I think Landon Collins had a Collinsgasm going for that
Starting point is 00:48:53 Brady pick yesterday. This is a game they flexed to Sunday night Cincinnati at Arizona. That's a great flex. It is a really good flex. That is a good flex right there. Someone is paying attention at NBC, that's for sure,. It is a really good flex. Hey, dog, that is a good flex right there. Someone is paying attention at NBC, that's for sure, Mike. Really, really good flex.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Huge flex right there. Cards by three and a half. Let's hope this isn't a Super Bowl 50 preview. I get this. I said three, and it's two and a half. What? If Arizona had lost last night, I would love them this game. I still like them.
Starting point is 00:49:27 The Cards are great at home. Why should I trust Andy Dalton in Arizona? I don't know. You pot the bean, I was big. But he's already cleared to play. By the way, Bill, if you don't, this is a good Sunday night game. But if you don't want to watch this, if you want to catch up on a new episode, it's called Daylight Shavings.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Yeah, it streams on Google Images. It's very strange. Daylight Shavings? What is it? Daylight Shavings. It's Zach Alphanakis and Rupert from Survivor, and they're bearded guys. They work in a clock shop, but they're actually fixed games, W wmba games so that's where the shavings comes in it's it's a drama though it sounds like funny but it's a drama it's really good
Starting point is 00:50:10 check it on google images that sounds great daylight shavings i've been watching on amazon prime what james gandolfini's new show what yeah how is that i know he hasn't been around forever that's the amazing thing about it he died and he Oh, man. And he's in a show on Amazon Prime. I have to see that. I have to see that. Apparently, he filmed it like nine and a half years ago. He's a college professor. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:50:31 And he has an affair. Oh. Yeah. Okay. With a student. I see. And then it's kind of like a dramedy, but yeah, it was filmed in like 2004. And it's not at the bottom of Bada Bing?
Starting point is 00:50:42 It doesn't go on, the affair? No, no, no. He's a poli-sci professor. It's called poli-sci, but it's S-I-G-H. Oh, I see. Apparently the titles would kill this. I have to watch this. There's just so much to watch.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Poli-sci. It's on Amazon Prime. Too much. The late James Gandolfini. It's only eight episodes. Well, of course. He didn't have time to tape anymore. Cuz, did you know that we created the Bill Simmons Podcast Network?
Starting point is 00:51:05 I heard that. Yeah. So this week we launched our second channel. It's called Channel 33. It features former Grant Landers Chris Ryan, Andy Greenwald, and Juliette Lipman, along with some players to be named later. Maybe even our friend Mad Brad. I love those guys and gals.
Starting point is 00:51:19 And a few cameos from yours truly. You'll get TV breakdowns from Chris and Andy on The Watch. You'll get reality TV with Juliette. And you'll get pop from Chris and Andy on The Watch. You'll get reality TV with Juliet. And you'll get pop culture interviews with Andy on The Andy Greenwald Show.
Starting point is 00:51:29 And you might even get some NBA gossip with Chris and Juliet on Sources Say. You can subscribe right now to Channel 33 on iTunes, SoundCloud, or Stitcher.
Starting point is 00:51:38 That's Channel 33 from the BS Podcast Network. I got started negotiating with Mad Brad. 33 in honor of the most over and underrated player of all time. I can't believe you said that. Give it two seconds of thought and you'll agree with me. You know, the whole time I wanted to talk about how Aikman is one of the five worst NFL Hall of Famers.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I don't care. That's fine. All right. That's fine. But I mean, he played for like eight years. Did he play for eight years? Nine years? He was, you know, I don't know what quarterback rating you go by, but he's one of the most
Starting point is 00:52:09 accurate pass of all time. So. That's great. You had five all pro defensive linemen, Michael Irvin, Emmitt Smith. Well, I don't think his numbers would have been better if he didn't have the greatest running back. But, you know, I don't care. I don't care anymore.
Starting point is 00:52:23 You care a little. I'm a Romo guy. Buffalo at New England. Monday night. running back but you know i don't care i don't care anymore you care a little i'm a romo guy buffalo at new england monday night oh that's funny buffalo at new england we're definitely not covering this game really i think patriots by nine and the bills have already covered i said nine also. It started at seven and a half. It's seven now. Seven? Come on. They're going to send the house at Brady every time.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Come on. What did you win in Buffalo? You won by double digits. We won by eight. You did? In Buffalo? Yeah, Buffalo made the big comeback. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Yeah, you won by, okay. All right, so this Patriots season, they're 9-0, and yet they're 5-4 against the spread. Yeah. Yeah. Well, maybe the spread's a little too high. I just think it's double digits here. Hold on, I got one more crazy gambling stat for you.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Minnesota. Eight in a row, right? Eight in a row against the spread. Yeah. Eight in a row. That's phenomenal what i would i'd love to know what the record is oh for a consecutive interesting it can't think anyone's covered 10 in a row in football someone seems impossible hit us up with that no i think there
Starting point is 00:53:38 are teams that have not not covered 10 times you and i both like minnesota heading into the year and then they lost that stupid game in San Francisco week one that ended at like 2 in the morning. The late Monday game, yeah. And threw everyone off their scent. Yeah, but everyone loved Minnesota. I think that's what scared me off, right? Everyone said they were going to win 10 games.
Starting point is 00:53:58 They're going to be a definite wild card team. And that's, yeah, you're right. That week one thing killed it. I'd like to apologize formally and officially for talking you into um the houston rockets being good this year good thank you i don't know what happened are we forgetting the blue jackets i'm not gonna apologize for that i think they might come around have they won a game yet might come around all right so my son's hockey team yeah they played after the first period
Starting point is 00:54:26 at the Kings game mhm when? on Saturday what? they did? it's like 20 kids out there for like 4 minutes
Starting point is 00:54:33 oh that's great and he almost had a breakaway then he almost had a breakaway and then he did get a breakaway came out of this whole pack and he scored at the Staples Center what? yeah
Starting point is 00:54:43 wait I was there my son scored at the Staples Center yeah wait i was there my son scored at the staples this is saturday this is saturday that's insane and then lucic scored in the same game as his new favorite player and then he met lucic after the game and this isn't even like one of the seven coolest things that's happened to him i i'm like mad at my own son what a spoiled brat he really is he's had so many great life experiences. The highlight of my entire childhood was when Jim Rice went to a Celtic game and in the most surly way possible, autographed a piece of paper without ever looking up at me.
Starting point is 00:55:15 It was the best thing that ever happened to me until I was 10. And my son scored at the Staples Center. That is amazing. These kids are too, they have too much. Yeah. I had Buddy Harrelson, the former Met shortstop grade, own the batting cage around the corner from me, and I asked him what it was like to fight with Pete Rose, and he said, I don't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:55:36 That was the highlight. I think that was the highlight of my young sport running. Never heard that story. Yeah, that was it. Let me just throw one more thing at it with the Patriots. Our friend Adam Carolla, an all-time jinx, bet a substantial amount of money on the Patriots to win the Super Bowl. Like a week ago, right?
Starting point is 00:55:54 Yeah, yeah. But he did this last year and we won the Super Bowl. He did, but it can't happen again. Now, let me just say something else about Adam Carolla. As I'm driving here to do the podcast, I usually watch football with him on Sundays, but I've caught between games, and I had to watch my kid's flag game. So I said, hey, I'm not going to be able to go to the studio, to the Kimmel studio to watch, but someone else will open it up.
Starting point is 00:56:14 I get a call that there's a blue Mercedes there left overnight by someone who signed in under my name. It's got to be Corolla. Lit on Mangaria. I'm saying it right now. Left the car there. I'm sure he'll talk about it on his podcast, so don't worry about cutting it here. He left the car?
Starting point is 00:56:32 There's a car. Someone left a car there and parked it. I don't know what they did. I have to now take care of this. Well, we can't watch football anymore. I'll tell you, I've been watching his new show on Hulu. What is it? You're not watching his new sitcom on Hulu?
Starting point is 00:56:46 This is so much. What is this? It's very autobiographical. It's about a guy who hosts a podcast. Oh. And all the wacky people in his life. Oh, he should be good at that. What's it called?
Starting point is 00:56:57 It's called The Adam Carolla Show. Or that I've seen. That Hulu. But check that out. Our buddy Adam has his own show on Hulu. It's really good. Also check out Jimmy Kimmel live Liam and Liam Hemsworth. Sorry, Tracy Ellis Ross and jewel in the gang. We have our mashup Monday, jewel and cool in the gang later in the week. See Josh Hutcherson,
Starting point is 00:57:18 Joseph Gordon Levitt, Amber Heard, Melissa McCarthy, and one direction on Thursday and check me out at The Cousin Sal on Twitter. Sports Center, Thursday night, Friday morning on the East Coast. My best bet's hitting 70%. I was 2-1 last week. You're 2-1? Oh, you had the Jags. I had the Jags.
Starting point is 00:57:36 We love the Jags. Yeah, we did. Should have done that mid-range dog. We were trying to think of a name for Juliet's show, and I wanted to see if Coolio could be on it could be coolio and juliet oh yeah do you think we get coolio i think you could probably get cool we just have to he'd have to tape like the intro and that's it and we call coolio and juliet that's awesome yeah cool but i don't know if he's alive no we had him on the show a couple years ago or if there's somebody
Starting point is 00:58:02 named romeo out there we'd the obvious romeo and juliet would be good but it's almost like too easy yeah it needs to be something that ends with eo like maceo and juliet or not little romeo and juliet little romeo and juliet yeah is little romeo do podcasts he's big he's really big now he's fat uh thanks again to simply safe for sponsoring today's episode thousands of people seeking home security get ripped off Every day, huge checks and long term contracts With no way out Why get robbed when you're trying to keep your home From getting robbed
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Starting point is 00:58:50 And my favorite app for purchasing tickets to sporting events, concerts, whatever else. Thanks to HBO for giving me my own television show that launches next spring. And subscribe to Channel 33 on iTunes, SoundCloud, or Stitcher. Back on Wednesday with Chuck Klosterman. Cuz. Good job by you. Good job by you, Belly. We're banging the Vikings.
Starting point is 00:59:11 I was just thinking, I think we're going to take Peterson at 50 to 1. Instead of betting on the Vikings, why can't we start, what's the thing Carolli used to fund his movie? Was it Crowdfunder? Yeah, why can't we crowdfund from the Viking fans to get us not to bet on the Vikings this week? Oh, that's a good thing. Yeah. If we raise $2,000 on a crowdfunded thing,
Starting point is 00:59:33 we won't bet on the Vikings. It all goes south from here, Vikings fans, if we put even a dollar on your team. We should tease the Vikings with Rousey. I'm leaving. The Blue Jackets and the Rockets. And the Rockets. All right, cuz.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Thank you. All right, see ya. We about this, bitch. Anytime y'all wanna see me again, rewind this track right here, close your eyes, and picture me rolling.

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