The Bill Simmons Podcast - Ep. 35: Week 14 NFL w/ Cousin Sal

Episode Date: December 7, 2015

HBO's Bill Simmons brings on Cousin Sal to talk Week 14 NFL Picks and a possible playoff picture. Topics: Belichick's recent struggles (3:00), Pitt/Sea playoff chances (8:00), Harry Styles' GB allegiance (18:00), Jeff Fisher's mustache (25:00), Sly's Oscar speech (37:00), Sean Payton's sabbatical(46:00), NFL ROY race (57:00), Tom Coughlin's next stop(1:05:00) and the 'Rocky' franchise(1:10:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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favorite thing. I thought I wouldn't see one like Howie's Comet for another 73 years after last week. But back to back for you, huh? And a home loss. I think that's like the fifth time Brady has lost at home since 2007. Yeah. Something like that. And one of the losses was last year against Buffalo in Week 17. Right, didn't matter.

I'm still not okay with the Denver loss. I feel like that game was stolen from us. Philadelphia deserved the win yesterday. They did? Yeah. But what about when Roger Goodell shot that duck that Brady threw in the end zone that was picked off? Or when he forced the offensive line on the punt team to wear cement shoes?

They scored 35 straight points. Yeah. They had three return touchdowns. We did a drop kick on a kickoff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What the hell was that? Yeah.

We're up 14-0. Forgot about that. I mean, it's more insulting than anything. Why do you want to antagonize the other team? Yeah. That's the kind of thing you do if you just feel like you're going to win 50-0. Right. You drop kick on a kickoff.

What the hell? Like when Flutie would drop kick the extra point. it's just the arrogance you didn't uh gotix had a really bad game and a half i didn't like how he coached two 14 point leads blown how about the second onside kick you're at a piano recital you couldn't see the end of the game no i was watching on my sling box i promise you yeah i wish i could enjoy this more but i had the patriots money line tied to every single thing yeah yeah and it's just it's awful i tried to warn you on monday's podcast i know i repeatedly told you the line was five points too high and that i was worried and that we have no skill guys like brandon lafell is not a number one receiver scott chandler's not a number

one tight end brandon lafell what's the over-under on cut players or personnel for the Patriots this week? If Brandon LaFell were any other situation, he'd be gone, right? But they're hurting so bad. Yeah, he was atrocious in that game. You forget the last two Super Bowl drives against Seattle. He was on the field for most of those plays. Made a couple short catches, but one was a big one on the final drive yeah it's not like he's incompetent right but well i don't want he's definitely not the worst player that brady makes look good you know no he makes these guys look

good all the time and he's capable i didn't like the second onside kick yeah so there were three minutes 35 28 like three minutes 10 seconds left we have two timeouts in the two minute right i just don't like it i think the inside kick is like a 20 chance if they get it they either they win the game or we're backed up yeah what did you think of the giants jets call because that was a big deal i woke up at like six o'clock today i had sports center on a loop it was just they're manufacturing these conversations and the coffin thing was one of them i totally thought they should have gone for a fourth and two in the 10 up 10 why not you're going for the kill almost always for being aggressive in that situation go up more than two touchdowns and 13 is still a lot of points uh to score or 10 is still

a lot of points to score from your own two yard line they're not like the jets were lightning on fire offensively. But I watched with a couple of Giant fans yesterday, and they were besides themselves. People pretend that that Jets-Giants rivalry is nothing, but it hurt a little extra. And they're like, screw you, Coughlin, go. Just wheel him off to the convalescent home.

They're really just writing him off. I think they do that after every game. Do they really? Yeah, I think he lives in a convalescent home now. Oh, maybe he should just stay on the sidelines. I don't think people realize that uh i was fine with it because if you don't get it they're on the five yard line or whatever the play that can't happen is the interception right that's bad we get a little whatever but yeah um i was fine with it and i thought they played better and i thought they i never thought they weren't going to win the game i had it on that tv over there, and I was kind of monitoring it,

but all of a sudden it got moving. They've had some bad losses, the Giants. I feel like a lot of fan bases have been destroyed more than usual this year, even your Patriots for the last two, three weeks. But Giants, obviously Cleveland and Detroit. But the Giants, that Dallas loss on the first Sunday night game was atrocious. 27-26. 24-20 to Atlanta. They blew the ending there.

52-49 to New Orleans. Obviously the Pats game, 27-26. Washington, you know, the little comeback there. And then yesterday, this team could have 9 or 10 wins. They're the best team in the league. Do you want me to read the Hench emails now or no our friend kevin hench crazy patriots fan i had to leave him halfway

through the game um is he still alive yeah he's okay uh here's one of them even even watching a middling receiver like jared coquetry on the Panthers game-winning TV, just a professional route run by a professional receiver, and imagining how LaFell would have rounded it off and bananted or jogged or whatever it took not to get open enough. It's sad when you're salivating over Jericho Cotri. I thought that was a good one. It is sad, yeah. He's got a—here's one more.

Oh, man. Will you talk um oh oh here we go what did it do i'm not looking forward to losing to the steelers in the first round in the 3v6 game what an effing disaster the last month has been the thing is when he starts sending these emails that's when i know we're gonna win the super bowl yeah when hanch gets freaks out, it's part of the process. I need him to do this. I think he knows too, and I hate it. Also, I'm not sure the Steelers are there at six. They're not there anyway right now. You're going to read another one? Good.

No way we outscore the Steelers if we get them and win out. We could lose all of these games. Feeling good about Marcus Cannon versus J.J. Watt this week? See, he has to do this. I want him to do this. I don't think he believes any of this. I love Hanch. That said, what are you going to do about J.J. Watt this week. See, he has to do this. I want him to do this. I don't think he believes any of this. No, he doesn't. I love Hedge.

That said, what are you going to do about J.J. Watt? We're fine. Yeah? Yeah. We'll just get Gronk to... Oh, Gronk's not playing. Damn it. I don't know.

I'm worried. I'm worried about all of this. The thing is, Houston's not very good. I had that Houston-Buffalo game on. They're just not very good. No, I think you're going to be okay there. God, you can't lose to him. It's Brian Hoyer.

Yeah. The one thing I will say, though,'t win straight. It's Brian Hoyer. Yeah. The one thing I will say, though, is Hopkins is, there's some petrifying receivers. He'll be gone, and then just, you know, I'll just score a big touchdown late in the game. Like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. You can just catch it with two guys. Right. So, Pittsburgh might not make the playoffs.

Right. They're seventh right now. Because I went to the hockey game yesterday, and it was on. They're rolling up the score, and I'm thinking, like, God, 3-6. Ugh. Trying to cover those receivers. And then I looked this morning, and they were in a playoff team. Right.

Which made me feel good. And believe me, I think they need to win three of their last four. They're at Cincy, home for the Broncos. Definitely have to win one of those two. And that at Ravens and at the Browns. But otherwise, the Jets have a favorable schedule. The Chiefs may not lose the rest of the way. So I think those are your wild cards right there.

Yeah, you know, I was all excited to talk about this in detail, and then Peter King basically did the same thing. I had done all this work on it. I was like, I didn't know Peter King was going to do the work. But Casey at Indy in round one, which is how it lines up right now. I think KC's like, I think they're giving four and a half. So I was going to ask you, who's the bigger favorite? Should we step on our own round one podcast?

KC at... It's over four. KC at Indy or whoever wins the AFC South or Seattle at the NFC East team. Who's the bigger favorite? Oh, yeah. Oh. Seattle, I think, is a six-point favorite. Wait a second, though.

Wouldn't it be Minnesota? Minnesota right now has the edge, right? Seattle's going to be the five. You think Minnesota falls to six? Well, Seattle's seven and five. Minnesota's what? Seattle at the Giants seattle's not laying more than four points really minnesota and green bear both eight and four aren't they or is green

bay seven and five oh why did i lose this oh yeah you're right they're eight and four i i see them slipping so seattle at the giants that's what i think it would it'll be a relatively close so it'll be around four think so seattle against kirk cousins in rfk new rfk whatever new rfk that that feels like that drifts closer to six and a half that's a higher one right and then philly god only knows i will say by then forget it say what you want about sam bradford and i have but he made a really nice throw in that third down with like two minutes left big play well that's why we had the guy flying at him like that's usually when he just kind of falls down I think that's why the onside kick didn't matter as much because if he's going

to complete that pass doesn't matter where you are on the field but I would have liked it more if he had to complete that pass from his own right 17 yard line right no they were good they were better god damn I don't know what happened i lost more money and i don't i don't even want to i don't have to worry i guess because my wife doesn't care what i do for a living so she'll never listen but i think i lost more money this weekend than any other in the last like six years really i had bail or money line they're 22 point forever they need to win to get a january 1st bowl game whatever they. They lose. I had, and then I take Alabama, my 16 and a half. Just bear with me for a second.

Playing a terrible Florida team who played just as terribly as I thought they would. And somehow they don't cover that game. And then I bounce back with your Patriots. I don't know what I did there. I just, I had Oklahoma State in basketball. I don't even want to talk about that. I talked to you in a loser. You talked to me in a loser. Chicago Denver tees. I should have just told you how much I lost before I did there. I had Oklahoma State in basketball. I don't even want to talk about that. I talked to you in a loser. You talked to me in a loser? Chicago Denver tees. I should have just

told you how much I lost before I did that. I was like, eh. I don't know how we lost. What was it? A 38-yard field goal by Robbie Gold? It was an extra point. We can now say it was an extra point that he missed, basically. I blame Robert Mays because two weeks ago, he was watching football with me. We were talking Gus Kowski and Robbie

Gold. I'm like, Gus Kowski's in. He's like, whoa, don't count out our guy. He did one of those. Right, right, right. Let me tell you something. Gus Kowski doesn't miss that kick yesterday to beat the Niners. I will say this. That murdered their season.

I got tweets. When we did the line last week for Bears-Niners, your dog started barking. And I said, oh, that means we need to take the dog. And not only did we ignore that, but we took the other the other side the bears that's interesting i lost so much i just i didn't even i just checked into that late game i was like you know what let me just feed the the two-year-old i gave him some formula put him to bed and i'm just like staring in his eyes i'm like this really this gives a perspective i'm like yeah i'm looking at him and I'm like, how much could I get for you on the black market right now?

You're staring into his eyes and he goes, dad, what the fuck were you doing this weekend? It's better that two kids get gifts than none, right? Yeah. Oh, God. Wow. Well, all I know is I lost money on a tease where the team that killed me was going against Blaine Gabbert on the road. Right. I don't even know how do I kick myself on that.

And we talked about that too. I said, Blaine Gabbert is a tough guy to bet against on a teaser. Believe me. I had him against Arizona a couple of weeks ago. One of the games I loved the most was just Denver to beat San Diego. I didn't know if they'd cover. Like, who knows? But I was just like, they're not losing in San Diego

when they have 30,000 fans there. And of course, I had no money on it. What a frustrating... And two minutes before, we're going to do Pittsburgh Steelers with Golden State or... Oh, yeah. Didn't think of it in time. Pittsburgh's good. It's a pretty good team.

They're going to put up 50 every week. I think they get into the playoffs somehow. Do you trust this crappy Jets team? They go home for Tennessee, at Dallas on a Saturday, home for New England, at Buffalo. They're not. Do you think they win three of those? No.

Isn't Fitzpatrick, like three times a year, he's just going to single-handedly murder you? Right. That's what I thought heading into this season. Maybe those two receivers don't. Patrick, like three times a year, he's just going to single-handedly murder you. Right. That's what I thought heading into this season. Maybe those two receivers don't. Brandon Marshall's having a great year. Just seems, gets open every time.

I don't know. So why did Chicago trade him? It didn't make sense when it happened. They like gave him away. Yeah. They're like, here, take him. Take Brandon Marshall. Yeah.

And it seems like he was over his troubles too. He said he, I read a thing somewhere today that was talking how he was really hurt that they traded him. Yeah. His family likes Chicago. He just dumped them. No, no, no. Strange. Well, all right, so we have the playoffs right now. Cincy and Denver would have the buys, but they play in Week 16.

Jets would be at New England. Casey would be at Indy. And Pittsburgh, Buffalo, and Houston would be sitting it out. And the NFC, Carolina and Zona have the buys. Seattle at Green Bay, we both think that's probably going to change. And then Minnesota would be playing at Washington. And I think you're going to get a buy, too, because of that Denver-Cincy game, right? Unless we keep stinking.

I think you might drop another one, huh? It's really hard to move the ball without skilled position players. Yeah. The other thing that's annoying about this Pats team is they've just kind of thrown away special teams this year other than Gostkowski. Oh, yeah. Like, we have, like, just terrible people returning kicks and, I don't know, real sloppiness. Like, it wasn't just the punt that got blocked yesterday, but he's almost had five or six

blocked this season. This has been a recurring thing. That one is just quick punt and get it out of there. There's nine seconds left. That's not a Bill Belichick coach team. The best Bill Belichick thing, though, all day was with the female referee.

Was her name Sarah Thomas? Did you see that? I don't think I saw that one. Oh, we played that six times over and over. Now there's a whole... Was he mean to her? He was very patronizing. He was very patriotizing with her.

He had his arms around. He was demonstrating, I think, what a hold is or something. You have to watch it. Did he touch her inappropriately? He almost touched her inappropriately. Oh, my God. It was so condescending. It was great.

Oh, God. It was great. It probably looked worse than it was. Yeah, that's the scandal you don't have. That's the one you guys don't have under your belt. All right, so Giants go at Miami on a Monday, home for Carolina, at Minnesota, home for Philly. Who the hell knows?

Yeah, you don't know with them. Skins have your team tonight, at Chicago, home for Buffalo, at Philly on a Saturday, at Dallas. Tough last two. Philly, home for Buffalo, home for Zona, home for Washington on a Saturday, and then at the Giants. I don't see any of those teams winning more than two games. Those are all two and twos, right?

So does that rule out your team? Yeah, we can't win. Look, we have two playoff teams on the schedule, at least. We have at Green Bay next week, and we have a home for the Jets. And we're probably not going to win tonight. Don't do this to me, Simmons. This is about your team. I just feel like you're—

This is about your team losing. That's what this should be about. If you win tonight, you're going to get ideas. Be a game out with four left? Yeah, I'm going to get ideas. Can I tell this story about going to dinner with your cousin? Yeah. On Thursday night?

I love this. Okay. So there was the GQ party on Thursday night. So Jimmy and I and two other people went to dinner at this sushi place and at the next table was harry from one direction so i'm sitting facing jimmy and the tv in this bar is to our right right so you just have turn to the right the tv's there harry comes sits down i'm facing him he's facing the wall the tv is directly behind him yeah and as it's going on this green bay game's happening and green bay's behind and i i keep forgetting to look because

i feel like the game's over and turn around it's two point i don't all i care about is whether detroit's gonna cover or not and it seems like they're gonna cover so i'm not that worried turn around all of a sudden people are just jumping around and complete cake because we thought the game was over staff Stafford's running the ball. Two minutes left. First down. Just people celebrating. It was like the Flutie play.

The Hail Mary. So we're all like, what the hell happened? And I'm just dumbfounded. I don't understand. They were on their own 30. I just don't understand what happened. Somewhere in the middle of this. Harry turns around and he's like,

Oh, we did it. Like we did it, you know? And well, after, after it was like three minutes out, like three minutes.

Yeah. And then he's like, uh, oh, that, that we needed that. That saved our season. I'm like, this dude, like, he seems like a nice guy i'm not putting him down it's just he hadn't seen him turn around really the whole

dinner he's literally facing one direction then he's fired up he's literally in one direction and i'm just confused and then he lifts up his shirt he has a green bay packers tattoo on his arm and he's fired up about this win. I was just so confused by the little thing. He had a Green Bay Packers tattoo on his arm. Wasn't watching the game, but yet was fired up that it saved his season. Yeah. So I don't know.

It's just an extra F you to Lions fans. Here's a Packers fan with a tattoo, not even paying attention. And they win. The point of this story is don't take British people seriously with anything anything other than soccer you just can't all they care about is soccer they don't know what the hell's going on that was um i guess we should talk about that for a second that packers ending like i don't know you don't want to blame the refs they got it wrong because when it first happened you see rogers he sold it well. His head spins around. His chin strap's all out of whack. And you're grazing the face mask area you would think you'd call a face mask.

But let's maybe try to review that in the future. I was fine with it. It felt like a face mask. His head jerked. I know. They're calling that every time. I just think they should be able to review it at some point. I think this whole instant replay culture is starting to ruin these guys. Yeah, maybe. If you break down anything frame by frame, we is starting to ruin these guys. Yeah, maybe.

If you break down anything frame by frame, we're going to pick stuff apart. Like even you staring at Harrison's eyes last night. If I broke that down frame by frame, I'd be like, oh my God. Yeah. And for a second, it really does seem like Sal might sell this kid. For a second. Was that? Check Craig's list.

So playoff games are always going to have more gambling implications. I said this on Friday. Music City Miracle to me is still the greatest gambling moment. Yeah, that's true. The last 20 years. This was way up there. The Lions Packers? Yeah.

It's a Thursday night, so more people are going to have one team or the other. A lot of people are going to have the Packers in a teaser or parlay or whatever. You have a strong opinion as to whether the Packers are still alive or not right the game's over like the odds of of somehow winning a game when you're what were they on their own 20 with three seconds left yeah that game's over 999 of a thousand times well the play before the lateral play yeah in which the face mask occurred you're more likely to get scored on than to score and 999 of a thousand times. Well, in the play before, the lateral play in which the face mask occurred, you're more likely to get scored on than to score.

Oh, yeah. I would say you're like five times more likely. So for them to pull out a win, if you had had the Green Bay Moneyline, that's the most ridiculous win you could have. It's tremendous. It really is. I enjoyed it.

I have to say Nance and Sims, we get on them a lot. That was a great call. Great call at the ending. It was good. Sims is talking about if he's elusive thisance and Sims, we get on them a lot. That was a great call. Great call at the ending. It was good. Sims is talking about if he's elusive this play and avoids a sack, he could reach. I know he could reach. And Nance is talking about his birthday.

Turned 32 today. Has the balls in the air. It was great. It was a great call. He took his helmet off. It would have been funny if they flagged him for the helmet. Oh, yeah. But I guess there's no answer.

I should review that. Yeah. So, week 14, there's no onset. I should review that. So, week 14. There's one great game. Where is it? Bengal Steelers is a great game. These football games suck every week. There's been five games this year where I'm like, wow, this game's awesome.

Like, Giants-Pats were like that. That's a good one. But really rarely do you. Cardinal Seahawks, I think, was like that. I thought Stewart Seahawks was really good. You watch these games and it's like just saying everybody's hurt. Guys are getting carried off left and right. Nobody's healthy.

Guys getting hit over the middle. They might have a concussion. They might not. It's been like a really discouraging year to love football. I'm excited for Bengals-Stewarts. That'll be a good one. Thursday night's not bad either. Minnesota, Arizona.

It's not bad. It took me 13 weeks to realize that all you have to do is just do nine men in a box against Minnesota, and Bridgewater's kind of screwed. He had a bad game. Really bad game. He really is Chad Pennington 2.0. Those balls hang up there, man. Can I say why there's even more

pressure on Teddy Bridgewater? The NFC North is putting together, the quarterback's putting together an incredible harem of women, wives, and spouses. Have you seen this Kelly Stafford?

Kelly Stafford? Who's dating Kelly Stafford? Well, Matthew Stafford's wife. Her name is Kelly. Oh. Yeah. Why? Who's the other Kelly? I don't know.

I thought she was like a model or something. I think she is, actually. You have to take a look at this girl. She's very vocal about the referees and everything. Otherwise, I would never... Hot, spectacular looking girl. Olivia Munn, right? Yeah.

For Aaron Rodgers. Who's the... Not Hayden Parenteiro. Who's the Bears? Chris Cavalieri, right? Cavalieri had a great run in, not Hayden Parenteira, who's the Bears? Chris Cavallari, right? Cavallari had a great run in the house. Great run in the house. Bridgewater's got to step it up.

I don't know if he can get any girls after yesterday's performance. Bridgewater. He's got to get a girlfriend. Trying to think. Who could we set? Can't be anyone in the Kardashian vortex, right? He's got to really step it up to beat this crop. Kendall Jenner?

Maybe. Maybe there needs to be another Jenner. I really hope that doesn't happen. Although with the Vikings' tortured history, that would be probably the next logical step for them. You're right. Before we do the week 13 lines. 14, yeah.

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if you enroll right now that's personalcapital.com slash BS alright week 13 week 14 I wish we could do 13 over yeah Minnesota to Arizona Thursday night. The Cards and Bengals have taken care of business a couple times this year when they kind of needed to.

It's like, oh, great, you beat the Browns. But it's still nice that they beat the Browns instead of having the Bengals having a stupid game where their Browns are lingering. They just kind of knocked them off. Same thing for the Cards. We should add them on every parlay. Yes. Every money line at something.

So Jeff Fisher, like basically fireable at this point. We were going over his numbers yesterday. Really bad. What'd you say? He's third on the list of most losses, right? Right. Like it's Dan Reeves. I think actually maybe he's fourth.

Reeves, i think landry shula these guys have just been around for shula was around 33 years but yeah the list i'd love to see is like a 12-year stretch of win losses like it's really hard to keep getting a job for 12 straight years and be under 500 which i think he is at this point i think like no playoff wins at all no and he should be a consultant. I don't want to hear from the Don Shules. I know, yeah, you win, you get to keep your job. If I'm

at a clinic, I want Jeff Fisher to come in and say, how do you keep your job for 21 years when you had four or five double digit win years, seasons? How do you do it? Great mustache. Is that it? That's Tom Selle is that it that's tom salluk's secret really yeah he's still on blue bloods now with dyed cherry pepper hair wow is it the mustache

yeah great mustache i guess that's how guillermo stayed with us all these years yeah mustache you have the right one no but he's a player's coach or whatever he gets along with the owners he used to play right i'm trying i really trying to figure out he was a player's coach or whatever. He gets along with the owners. He used to play, right? I'm trying to, I'm really trying to figure out why. He was a good coach. Yeah. I remember that one Pats game when we played them on a Saturday night and we almost lost to them. They were just really well coached and in the right spots and you just always had to work to beat them.

Well, now he says he's out of answers. Famously says he's all out of answers. He's out of answers. That, now he says he's out of answers. Famously says he's all out of answers. He's out of answers. That's what he says. I like when they do that. Why are you still coaching in this league? Sorry, I'm out of answers. I like the Rex Ryan motto

of just falling on the sword really hard. Yeah, yeah. That's on me. That's my fault. Right. Because what are people going to say when you do that? No, yeah.

Yeah, you say it. I have the cards by eight and a half. All right. I said six. Seven and a half is right. So I win that one. You get that. Yeah, you're closer.

I think Arizona's finally getting the respect from Vegas. It deserves what they deserve. I wonder, Minnesota's one of those, if you're down 10, you just write them off mentally teams. I don't feel like they can come back. Right. You know what I mean? Mike Zimmer's defense was the answer. Anthony Barr and Harrison Smith might be hurt now, and they're just like average defense.

But that happened in the first series. Right. Or like in the first 20 minutes. It was like, oh, these guys are out. This sucks. Right. Can I change my pick? I know.

It was awful. I hate this. How about. This sucks. Right. Can I change my pick? I know. It was awful. How about someone who was still excited well along into the game? Quarter Al Patterson. Did you see that? No. He runs back to kickoff. It's 35-0. He's showboating as he's running down the 20.

It's still 35-0. And he gets in the end zone to make it 35-7. And a glorious celebration ensued. Like, really unbelievable. Down 35-0. Where has this guy been? I think the Wunderlich score goes down like 10 points after a celebration. Down 35-0.

He'd be the best receiver in the Pats. I'm not going to make fun of him. All right. Sunday, Washington and Chicago. Ooh. I don't mind either of these teams. Are the Bears minus three and a half? Yeah, you get it.

I said four. I thought it would be a little higher, considering they were given seven. It's three. They're basically the same team. Right, I guess so. When I had the SportsCenter on a loop yesterday, or today, before the pod.

Are you allowed to watch SportsCenter? Oh, totally allowed to watch. Really? All right. A lot of fond memories of ESPN. know 14 f good years i try to fit you into my segment it got it got bleeped i don't know what happened there yeah i don't know people are emailing me like i was gonna be mad about it i got it i got nervous too i was like like not cool sal and i'm like oh no someone's gonna be mad i thought this was a fun thing I thought it was fun

wait I forgot what I was gonna say Chicago is Washington are you watching SportsCenter oh yeah and they were like if this keeps up

they're gonna have to use the franchise tag on Kirk Cousins like Schefter said that wow the franchise tag on Kirk Cousins oh no

what the F Kirk Cousins oh if that doesn't if that doesn't I guess it makes sense though Kirk Cousins. Oh, no. What the F? Kirk Cousins? Ugh. That's some tag. If that doesn't sum it up. I guess it makes sense, though. Think about it. If that doesn't sum up the Washington sports scene right now,

using your franchise tag and Kirk Cousins, that does it. And they're going to win the division. Yeah, that's a little low traveling on a short week there to Chicago. As bad as the Bears were. All right. I think the Bears were. All right. I think the Bears have replaced the Rams. The Rams were last year's best ball team. Like five good games a year where they're just like, oh my God.

Right. That's the Bears this year. I think any week they could beat anyone. You're waiting for the Bears and Lions to step it up in the division. Like, oh, they're putting together a little streak here. They suffer horrible losses and now it's done. Horrible. Winnable games.

Yep. Another horrible loss. Cleveland, home for San Francisco. Yeah, that's a tough one. I can't believe this, but, God, is this possible? I have Blaine Gabbert giving three points in Cleveland. I was thinking your way, too. I said Blaine giving two, Cleveland

giving one. So Vegas, Vegas was like, there's no way where no way Blaine Gabbert can be. I think this line ends up at 49ers by three. I mean, God bless Vegas in the 2015 NFL, where they could make a team that's clearly tanking the Cleveland Browns a favorite in December at this point. I forgot to mention this. For some reason, when there's a terrible Pats game, yeah, we always get some announcer. That is my worst case scenario for the matchup of the announcer in the game.

So like when, when Brady, when Pollard blew up Brady's knee, we had Dan Deardorff who is like the, was the master of the hate to see that. Oh, just say like, just,

he makes you feel a hundred times worse. So yesterday we had Saragusa. The whole game. And for like 10 years, Fox has gone forward with this whole Saragusa plan where he's kind of a sideline reporter, but he's just strolling around with a heavy jacket. And he just kind of chimes in. You just want to see a fat guy

be cold yeah yeah and and it's i don't know what he brings to the table i don't know what his role is like if he's the third man in the boot just put him on the booth i don't know what it would what's good for him to be in the field he just comes in so i i finally figured out what it was it's the waiter he's the waiter we're at a dinner a nice date with your wife finally a chance to catch up talk about stuff and the waiter just keeps coming over hey guys how you doing oh yeah how's it going over here hey guys you like the veal huh veal's good huh that's saragusa they they figured out how to take the annoying waiter in a restaurant and turn it into an announcer right it's incredible he's stealing the veal off your plate while he really is yeah

yesterday they cut to him one point he's like guys i remember when i won the super bowl blah blah blah it's like you played for a team that won this you didn't win the super bowl yeah your team won the super bowl he's he's a player's player he uh famously would uh in the preseason bang his knee with a phone book to loosen cartilage so he wouldn't have to play in the preseason, so he wouldn't have to practice. Is that true? Yeah. Look it up.

The other amazing announcing thing that just hasn't ended yet is Dick Stockton. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't ever remember following sports without Dick Stockton. God bless him. But yesterday, Jameis had the biggest play of the game. It was like a third and 19. Yeah, terrible. Bounces off a guy.

Dick Stockton calls it a fumble. Then said the Falcons had it. Meanwhile, Jameis is running for this improbable first down. Right, right, right. Win the game. It was just like, wow. Oh, believe me. I was watching.

Meanwhile, and then on the flip side, Al Michaels just has not lost a step. No. He's still throwing a 99-mile-an-hour fastball. I think he's cheating. What do you mean cheating? He's doing PEDs or something. Joe, for the announcing? I do.

We're going to have him on. Yeah, we're going to have him on before the playoffs. I actually think he's using HGH or something. And, by the way, aware of the over-under. Called it yesterday. The only reason anyone would be watching the end of that Steelers game. He's the best by far now. I don't think that was always the case, but I think right now, if you're watching football,

give me one L. Michaels. He's best. Yeah. And Collinsworth think has well one's slipped a little this year play by play and one's yeah but you're saying by far the best team yeah yeah that's the best the best uh i agree studio that i mean uh not studio uh game presentation just the camera everything that that whole package is great they may have a few extra dollars to throw around, but yeah. When your team plays on Sunday Night NBC, it's really cool. Yeah, not for me. Well, not for you as much.

I don't know. I think I get the Saragusa feeling when the Cowboys play on Sunday Night. That's true. You're getting flashbacks. Yeah, or any of these primetime games. Speaking of Saragusa, his old team Baltimore, home for Seattle. I had the Seahawks give an eight. The Ravens, they lost more guys yesterday.

Did you see Matt Chavez throwing a pick six in six of his last nine games? I saw that. What an incredible statistic. You get this, by the way. I said seven, and it's nine. And we're going to tease this game. Do you believe in the Seahawks? Yeah, I just think it's this time of year,

and we're stupid to now bet against them. And I think they're like seven or eight to one to win the Super Bowl, and we may want to consider that, too. I don't think we're stupid. Really? What don't you like about them? I think yesterday, I feel stupid that I didn't see it, but I think you can throw on them.

It's just the Vikings were a good matchup for them. Somebody's going to be able to throw on them in the playoffs. Yeah, I just think they're scoring now. Is the Jimmy Graham, is that your Ewing theory? Maybe. I think Luke Wilson's better for them somehow. Wilson's back to kind of doing those extending the play things. I think he kind of went off the deep end a little bit with, uh, between the Superbowl loss and,

and trying to become a famous person. And maybe he just kind of lost it a little bit. Maybe Talia Shire got him on the beach. Oh yeah. Yeah. Speech. I'm afraid. What did she say?

What are you afraid of? We got money. We got cars. You're human. Aren't you? Well, God, I don't know what I am. All I know is that Mick is gone because of me.

It wasn't your fault. My son is all the way in on the Rocky series now. I couldn't love it more. I just couldn't love it more. There's a marathon every eight minutes there. Rocky IV is his favorite one. Is it? He loves Drago. Yeah, well my son won his Drago on Halloween last year.

He messes up all the Drago lines which is hilarious. If a person dies, he dies. It's always like two words off but it's the best. So Archie went as Drago? No, no. Jack went as Drago. Last year, yeah.

Not many kids in the class, other kids going as Drago. That was my biggest disappointment with Creed. What was that? No villain? Wouldn't it kill them to have Mr. T and Drago ringside and have them bring them up? And guys, Drago, and just like a little cameo? Yeah, yeah.

I want them to fight Clover's son in the sequel, in the Creed sequel, right? Creed sequel's happening. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I'm getting Michael B. on my podcast again. What do you mean? I think he's an A-lister now. Oh, I see.

I don't think he has time for me anymore. I see. I don't think he has time to come over to my little piddling podcast. Really? Yeah. I think we can get him back. He's an A-lister now. Yeah.

Yeah. I think he has. No, I guess this is it. No, this is it. He needed a big hit. How much is he commanding? Does he get 15 a picture? I hope he has a i guess this is it no this is it he needed a big hit how much is he commanding do you get i hope he has a good deal for this next one no he should get like 25 for this next one i can't make it without him yeah i'm sure he signed a sequel deal yeah sly's getting

a lot of oscar buzz it's gonna be good sly's getting buzz let him get it uh the speech do you cry during the speech slyly walks up. I get moist. Wow. I get moist. That might just be a little too much to know. Do you think, I don't mean moist that way. I mean like my eyes get moist. Who knows what you mean anymore.

I guess I left that ambiguous. But I think if he wins the Oscar and gives the speech, I think he should give the same speech he gave right after Mickey died. Oh, that's great. He should come on with sunglasses and just ramble through it, just like he got beat up. Just have the eyes puffed up and sunglasses. I really lost respect for Rocky when he told Creed's illegitimate son

that he hadn't talked to Creed's wife since the funeral. Yeah, they needed to figure that out more. Couldn't have called her? I think he felt it was his fault too much. But he did say something at the funeral. They said, oh, you said nice things about my father. It wasn't his fault. If you watch the tape,

I'll watch it again. Drago pushes the ref back so he can get in like two last licks. It was basically a manslaughter. Here's who would never forgive Rocky. Who's the other trainer? Who's the guy that really trained? Duke told him three times to drop that towel.

Throw the towel in. And he wouldn't do it. He forgave him as soon as Rocky said, I'm going to fight Creed in Russia. And here's your cut of the pay-per-view. Oh, that was actually for free. He didn't get any Yeah, that was it. Actually, it was for free. He didn't get any money. That was it. Yeah, Rocky didn't get any money for the Russia fight.

Yeah, we're fighting on Christmas in Russia. Yeah, come with me. Train like an animal. Probably the most improbable movie plot of the 80s. Rocky not taking money. No money going to Apollo's estate. Right, exactly. But yeah, Duke shouldn't have forgiven him for that.

Yeah. That's why I love Creed. It wasn't any stupid stuff, really. Rocky's, Sly's so good in that movie. Really was like Copland Sly. That's why I love Creed. It wasn't any stupid stuff, really. Rocky's really... Sly's so good in that movie. Really was like Copland Sly. He's back.

I loved it. Did you like the girl? Tessa Mitchell? She was okay. She was alright. Just okay? She was fine. I don't know.

Yeah, she was good. Tessa Thompson. Tessa Thompson? Thanks, Tate. Tate liked her. Tate liked her again. Tate liked her. All right, let's keep going.

Atlanta, Carolina. Panthers by nine that's what i said seven and a half vegas still not giving up on atlanta right now i've i've given up on them physically and emotionally i'm with you and tate whatever you want to say about matt ryan go ahead because i'm i'm done with them i had them as one of my picks, and that was really, really bad. Can we talk about the fact that Carolina gave up 38 points yesterday? Yeah. Well, that was a trap game, though, right? Wasn't that the same Super Bowl kind of thing?

I don't know, man. They gave up. That Norman, you know, he was getting too mouthy. This kind of happens, I think. Gave up 29 to the Packers. Gave up 26 to the Colts. Give up 26 to the Colts. Right. 38 to the Saints.

Yeah. That's not a Super Bowl team. Super Bowl defenses don't get torched like that. They're not locking down. That's true. That's true. I think they're beatable. No, of course.

They're not a 12-and-0 team. They're a 10-and-2 team. Yeah, you need to make stops on January. They're not getting stops. But they're going to be 13-and-0. Brandon Cooks was wide open on a couple of those. That was an interesting game. The Saints have the most atrocious secondary I think I've ever seen in my life.

That's really bad, right? That go-ahead touchdown was spectacular. Was that what Hench was talking about? Was that Cotri was in the end zone? Yeah. Ted Ginn got open. Ted Ginn dropped a touchdown. They should have had more points than 48.

We couldn't get rid of Brandon Browner fast enough. It was hilarious to read anybody like, oh, they lost Rivas and Brandon Browner. It's like the miracle of that Super Bowl wasn't the Malcolm Butler interception, but that Brandon Browner didn't have a giant pass interference to blow something in the fourth quarter. But in the huddle, he was the one that figured that play out, right? Wasn't that it? Yeah. Yeah, it was good.

Thanks, Brandon. Good luck in New Orleans. Yeah, so that's why all this Patriots stuff. You know in January you're going to be the best. You might not be the best right now. We know in three weeks you're going to have everyone back and none of this is going to matter. That's why I've got to get my shots in now.

What else can I say? Gronk Pats versus no Gronk Pats is a different team. We've said that for five years. Yeah, and you'll have Edelman and a healthy Amendola and everything. The secret to Brady's success in his mid to late 30s has been that he has the best tight end of all time in his team. That's helpful. Now you've had trouble with the offensive line. Is this the worst offensive line you've had in years?

It's not great. Yeah. That might be the difference. It's not great. Were you okay with the false start on the third down and 11? I'm not going to whine about this. Come on. You can't blame the refs for this.

You have two touchdowns twice. I can do anything I want. You can't tell me what to do. I'm going to tell you this time. Buffalo and Philly. Twice. I can do anything I want. You can't tell me what to do. I'm going to tell you this time. Buffalo and Philly. Both of these teams bother me. Buffalo, are you good or are you not good?

Like, what are you? Just tell us. Just make a decision. I have Eagles by four. I don't like it. I said four and a half. And it's one and a half. It was two and a half, and it's one and a half. It was two and a half. It went down to one and a half, so you're going to get that one.

You're killing me again. This is two new coaches. Rex against—not that Chip's new, but Rex is a new coach. And this is the LeSean McCoy ball, right? Yeah. All of a sudden, this means something. And DeMarco Murray, by the way, is like a third string running back for the Eagles.

It's amazing. They figured it out. Like, you got scared seeing Sproles in there, right? Yeah. On third and three, you don't want to see Sproles. I wanted DeMarco Murray in there. Anyone near there. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's an interesting game. All right. Pittsburgh at Cincinnati. This is the one you like. Best game on the board. I think we bring in our friends Dunkin' Donuts

before we do this game. Oh, yeah. It's the biggest game of the board I think we do I think we bring in our friends Dunkin Donuts before we do this game it's the biggest game of the thing so my mom heard me talking about Dunkin Donuts on this podcast the last couple times and she was very upset

that I brought up my Uncle Bob and not her because when 8th, 9th, 10th grade driving to school we would stop at Dunkin Donuts

and she would get a coffee and I would get a bagel and I'd get a USA Today from the little USA Today machine. Nice. And then I would refuse to talk to her for the rest of the ride as I read box scores.

And she always like kind of held it against me and brought it up. Right. So now she's holding me doing two Dunkin' Donuts reads and not bringing her up. But then also the fact that 32 years ago or whatever it was that I stonewalled her in the car for five minutes.

Meanwhile, she had a radio. It's not like we were just sitting there and salad. Sorry. This is my one chance to look at basketball box. Anyway, Dunkin Donuts has been in my life for that long. I like that. I'm not sure if that's a tribute or a screw you, mom. I'm talking about you now.

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They have to win every game now. They really do. I have a prediction. I think this line goes to two and a half by game time. Really? I think Pittsburgh gets a lot of bandwagon, whatever, and then it makes sense to take Cincy. And then you hate yourself because you have Andy Dalton.

Cincy won 16-10. It was the beginning of November. Yeah, this is a good game. Let's watch this. And thank you once again, NFL. What is it? 11, 1 p.m. Eastern games and 2, 4 p.m. Eastern?

6, 9, 11. Are you kidding me? I look at it another way. I think they're looking out for us because they want us to throw away the weight games and do a little Christmas shopping. Is that it? Yeah. Yeah. I think they're looking out for us because they want us to throw away the late games and do a little Christmas shopping. Is that it?

Yeah. Yeah. I think that's it. All right. Well, I'll look that way. What are the late games? The late afternoons? Oakland at Denver and Dallas at Green Bay.

No, yeah, we're not even close to there because there's 40 games in a row. New Orleans at Tampa Bay. Oh, man. I didn't know whether it was three or three and a half. I'm going to say Bucks by three. I don't think Vegas trusts them. You're edging me out. I said two and a half.

It's four. So you get that one again. When I say Vegas doesn't trust them, I mean, like, I think they want to get an equal amount of. I don't think the gambling public is ready to give up on Drew Brees yet. Well, they're the full of shit team the Bucs are of 2015. Both wins against Atlanta. The Cowboys win.

Easy schedule. To think that they're 6-6 and if Minnesota breaks down, they're right there to snatch that playoff spot. It's outrageous. I do like what I've seen from Jameis. He makes plays, man. I know. He prolongs drives.

He killed me. By the way, let me say this. Obviously, he snuck in that pile. He didn't, man. I know. He prolongs drives. He killed me. By the way, let me say this. You know, obviously, he snuck in that pile. He didn't go down. If an Atlanta safety comes in and delivers a helmet to the side, they're definitely throwing a flag there. It's like, are they letting the quarterbacks play, or are they not letting them play?

I mean, I don't know what you do differently there, but it seemed like everyone in Atlanta gave up on that play. You single-handedly swung my pick for that game. I was going to take Tampa, and you went Atlanta. I'm like, South's hot. I don't really feel strongly about Tampa. I'll take... Well, you should feel good about staying away. I wouldn't accept a win like that. Hey, I have

good news for Saints fans. Yeah. Goodell just announced Sean Payton's Bounty Gate suspension. He's going to lift it on January 15th. He's going to be able to coach next year. Is that true? Yeah. He's taking the last four years off.

What are you talking about? Sean Peyton. He hasn't been coaching for four years. Oh, I see. I see. He's coming back. Yeah. He's going to actually come back and be Sean Peyton again next year.

Yeah. I thought that was his best game yesterday. No, I'm with you. Is he the least successful post-Super Bowl? Now Billick was bad after. Yeah, I was just going to say Billick. Remember Sean Payton? People... It was a huge circle jerk about him.

A Super Bowl win? Because Fisher made it to... You're saying after a win, you're saying? Yeah, after a win. Super Bowl title win. And think about it. If that onside kick backfires, they lose the Super Bowl, and Sean Payton's fired like a year and a half ago. He's

probably fired after Bounty Gate. Bill looks, I think, done the worst since the Super Bowl. I'm looking this up. I want to see this. I'm interested. Bill looks a winner, though, because he's got a great Twitter account. I like his Twitter account. Right amount of tweets. He's got hard takes uh i like when he gets upset about things it's good he's good i'm not giving up on bill because immediately now i want to see this

i think that we might be missing somebody like a bad well it's like there's the dick vermeil type lovey smith no he didn't win the bears who was the win. Who was the Denver coach for the Elway Super Bowl? Dan Reeves? Yeah, he was pretty mediocre after that. He has the most losses of all time, I think, as a coach, right? The Giants fans are going nuts right now. They're like, what about Coughlin? What about Coughlin?

We should be 10-2. Put this man in a nursing home where he belongs. But he went second, right? He didn't have that he went to two it's like you're infallible after two it's really hard to win two superbowls oh mccarthy i guess hasn't been lights out yeah he gets 10 wins though almost every year um dandy reed 2.0 that's it though right oakland tampa so you kind of semi agree with me with you. You're right. I agree. There's no other way. Damn, I have to agree. Gruden? Well, just because he's stuck in that booth.

No, I think that's it. I think that's it. I should say, I really like Tirico as a play-by-play guy. He's good. I think he's good. Yeah. Yeah. He's a good guy, too.

Jaylen and I did a basketball game with him once. Oh, yeah? It was really fun. Syracuse guy, I think. Yeah. India Jacksonville. All right, so I guess this is assuming... I don't think Hasselbeck even wants to play anymore, but... Yeah, Hasselbeck's like, look, I didn't sign up for this.

I thought I'd have to play like two games. I have a headache. No, it's not concussion related. I just... Yeah, I'm just tired. I can't think about this stuff anymore. I just want to wear a headset and tell Andrew Luck what to do. I have

the Colts laying two and a half points to the frisky Jags. I said three. You're edging me out every time. It's Jags minus one. Now if the Jags had won that game, that crazy game, it would end up being the game of the day I think. Yeah. They would have been five and seven.

Right. They would have been five and seven. They would have been in the mix. Yeah, this would have put them right there, because I think Houston and Indy could lose this week. Jacks had a couple of those, right? They had a... Yeah. They blew that Dolphins game in week two. But they won some.

They lost to the Colts in week four. Remember that one in the overtime? 16-13 overtime. That was stupid. They won a Bills game they shouldn't have won. They had that Ravens game they shouldn't have won. They lost to the Jets. They could have won that one. They overtime? 16-13 overtime. That was stupid. They won a Bills game they shouldn't have won. That Ravens game they shouldn't have won. They lost to the Jets. They could have won that one.

They beat the Ravens. I guess they beat the Titans. Yeah, the Titans Thursday. I would say they're minus one in stupid games. Right. That's a good one to look at. San Diego or Kansas City? Our second teaser game.

God. Chiefs by 10? Yeah. You couldn't even give me this one. I had 10 also. It's exactly 10. I've been pretty good this week. Yeah, you're on.

You're on. So Chargers, they're still lingering for the top pick, right? Unless the Browns win again? They're 3-9. Browns are the only two-win team. Browns have two. Don't count out my Cowboys either. Browns, wow.

Tennessee with three wins also. I mean, the Browns have had, they're really the Sacramento Kings of football. They just had a lot of lottery picks and they still suck. I heard on the radio, I know, like, I don't know what, like, you know, Manziel's

now starting the rest of the way, they're saying, right? That'll be great. That'll be really good. Right around the holidays, right, when there's more parties to go to. I'm sure it'll work out well. It's just more pressure on the management to screw up a number one pick, isn't it? Don't you want the number three pick if there's not a difference between one and three? Like, oh, the Browns have the number one pick again. They have three in the top 65 or whatever it is.

They could trade down and really compile the screw ups, like multiply them. Yeah. We want nine F ups here. Tennessee at New York jets. I don't understand this Fitzpatrick thing. The guy was like 30 games under 500 in the season, but on seven teams. Yeah.

Every year he would have two to three just horrific games that would rip your heart out if you picked his team. Right. And yesterday seemed like one of those games, and then he started making plays. He came back. I don't get it. Is it the beard? I think it's playing against Tom Coughlin.

Maybe it's the beard. Put him in a nursing home right now. Wheel him away. They were so mad. Such angry fans I watched with yesterday it's terrific who is it was said toro there yeah nick santo he gets the angriest of it oh yeah yeah if he's not railing on his wife it's tom coughlin it's really good is he he's doing scorpion right yeah do you think scorpion will have an episode of just like an old age football coach he's putting corolla in an

episode what yeah you have to come by because we talk about all this nonsense and then brad talks age football coach who gets framed for murder. He's putting Corolla in an episode. What? Yeah. You have to come by because we talk about all this nonsense. And then Brad talks about how bad Scorpion is. His friends show. It's really good stuff. And he still rails at it? Yeah. Did they talk about the Mangria bar crawl?

No, I didn't get into that one. No. But Adam did drive home from Fresno or something. So I heard about that a lot. It was good. Drove home from Fresno. Jets home for heard about that a lot. It was good. Trove home from Fresno. Jets home for Tennessee. Oh, I have Jets by six.

Yeah, I had 10. Really six. Seems high. Well, three win team on the road. It's seven and a half. So you're going to get this. You're demolishing me. They're a three win team, but they're not a three win team because with

Mariota, they're actually, they're passable. Yeah. No? I guess so. I don't think they win. On the road, well, they beat the Saints on the road, right? Where did their other win come from? Must be that division.

Tennessee. They beat the Bucs in week one. Oh, that's what it was, right. Beat the Saints in OT and then late yesterday. Okay. Detroit at St. Louis. Do you think Caldwell should have been fired after that Thursday game? I don't know. I just think that's one way we just

like whether you're liberal or conservative you can't be happy with what's going on. Just let it go. Just let it go and move on. There's going to be eight coaches fired right yeah i have the lions favored which is incredible but i have the lions laying two and a half i think the rams have not just quit on the season i think i think they've quit on 2015

they might have quit on the holidays they quit on the city they've quit on me and you. They've quit on our plus or what was it? Oh, that was terrible. 75-1 NFC bet or something like that? 25-1? I think 25. Worst bet in like five years. They've quit on everyone. But now that meeting as to whether they're going to move or not is in like a couple weeks, right?

Maybe when it's announced that the Rams are staying, we bet them. Peter King seemed to have some inside info today on that whole thing it it looked like it once they got eiger involved in the uh the carson project the carson project yeah yeah and it seemed like the rams were the least likely to come here right by the way the rams are giving laying one in this game rams are laying one they're a point favorite i don't agree with that i don't know about yeah detroit let the cleveland fans off the hook with that with that last one when you have terrible quarterbacks and terrible receivers you cannot win in the national football league

sal i've said it before i'll say it again right Right. And by the way, you get a bye now in our fantasy league. I have Todd Gurley. Do I just bench him? You get a bye. I think you won our division. You don't even know that you get a bye? I lost by like 17 points this week. I know, but you're 7-6 and Brad's 7-6.

I have a good team, but I lost Lewis and Edelman, which really killed me. I think you get a bye. But what do I do with Todd Gurley? He's going to be Rookie of the Year. Now, who do you give Rookie of the Year, Offensive Rookie of the Year to? What do you mean, what do you do with Todd Gurley? He's going to be Rookie of the Year. Now, who do you give Rookie of the Year, Offensive Rookie of the Year to? What do you mean, what do you do with Todd Gurley? I have to sit him.

He gets like, he's battling for carries with Tavon Austin, a receiver. He doesn't even get 10 carries anymore. I don't think they want to put miles on him because the season's over. Well, thanks for that. I paid a steep price for him. You made a big trade, right?

I traded Demarius Thomas, who wasn't lighting the world on fire. But that seemed big at the time and favorable to me but who gets rookie of the year you give it to winston oh it's either winston or mariotta i would say winston i say thomas rawls i say if he ends up with like six touchdowns and 1100 yards that guy's good great name yeah unbelievable i know it go so many different directions with the name Thomas Rawls. It's hard not to do the Berman thing with Thomas Rawls. All right. Oh, wow.

We got to the late afternoon games. Why is it hard? How would he go with that? Well, he does the Lou Rawls thing. He sings a different Lou Rawls song every time he does a highlight. For Thomas Rawls? For Thomas Rawls, yeah. Does he do that?

Of course he does. What are you talking about? I don't even remember what songs Lou Rawls sang. I don't even think I know what he was... You'll never find... Who knows? That's what I was singing to my two-year-old, feeding him formula. Oakland at Denver.

You'll never find the 20 grand I lost. Quiet. Quiet is more than that. Oakland at Denver. I had the Broncos by seven, and I'm very bullish on Osweiler the rest of the way. I actually think the Broncos were better than their record and their performance with Manning. Really?

They squeezed a lot of games out that they shouldn't have won. In spite of him, right. And now he allows them to just kind of be who they are, which is a team that should run the ball and do play action and misdirection, and he's perfect for them. Two interceptions over the last 59 drives. That's what you that that's with no turnovers this defense you're gonna go far with the threat of being able to roll out to one side or the other no tip balls no interceptions

no ducks that's all they need he's so tall i had seven and a half very handsome guy that brock it is seven and a half i'm really hoping my wife doesn't see really i don't like she's still still talking about uh the two mets the two mets cinder garden oh really who's the who's the other handsome guy you had de grom harvey she liked one of the other mats that bothered me uh cespedes no a lot of handsome mats daniel murphy she really likes cinder garden it really annoyed me really i didn't why am I not hearing about this? She did the, who is that? Settle down. By the way, this is a good time to introduce the new TV show.

It's a simple one. It's a 24-7. You get it on the HBO app, and it's about us versus our wives when we get the credit card bill after Christmas. It's leading up to the fight. It's a 24-7. I think I could get that greenlit. Oh, really? Yeah.

Yeah, you could watch them shop and kind of giggle about the purchases they make. And when 40 boxes show up at the door, you can't even get out of your front door. Yeah, it's going to be good. The best part is when Jimmy and his wife are on it, but it's the reverse. It's Jimmy's. It's Molly getting mad at Jimmy's bill. Yeah, yeah. Because you don't want to say it's male versus female.

Barricaded by Amazon boxes. Yeah, there's one spouse who's going to piss off the other spouse in this whole thing. I like that one. 24-7. Can we get Liev Schreiber? I think we should be able to do that, right?

Sal didn't realize that Melissa was at the mall again. Except that he did. Damn it. All right. I'm in trouble. Oh, great. Dallas at Green Bay. Oh, boy.

How about this Green Bay team? Like, halftime of the Lions-Packers game, you thought, oh, well, that's it. They're done. And Minnesota's running away with the division. And now I don't see any way Green Bay blows this division. So they have two good wins all year, like two decisive wins. Week five Rams, they won 24-10.

We both watched that game and thought that game was a little closer than 24-10. And then they beat the Vikes 30-13. Other than that, they've either lost or scraped it out. You've never felt good about a Packers game. No, you can't. So you see them laying nine to your boys. I have them favored by nine.

I don't feel good about laying nine. Well, that was an interesting slip up there, Bill. You said you see them laying nine like you knew what the line was ahead of time. Well, it is nine. It's exactly nine. It is nine. yeah there's gonna be an investigation so you see them according to sports but yeah it's the next scorpion i had 11 but it is nine yeah but they shouldn't be favored by double digits they haven't beaten anybody by double digits well it's happened twice i just the lambo mistake are they waiting for some team put the smackdown on some team who is the are we sure they're good team this week don't say mine

yeah we know my team is uh the are we sure they're cheating oh because i don't think no i don't think you're cheating anymore um well minnesota you want to right? If those guys are out for any time. Yeah, that could be bad. No, Minnesota or Green Bay is still not out of our doghouse, I think. But they should still win this. All right, Sunday night, New England at Houston. Now, I'm wrong about this line, but I think eventually you're right. I think I'm going to be wrong, too.

I didn't have a feel for this. I put it in the Vegas zone. Even though, is the Vegas zone dead now with all these missed point afters, all this stuff? There's no rammer, is there? I had the Pats by five and a half. I said six and a half, and it's four. So you'll get that one. Four seems fair.

But no, it's going to go up, because here's what happens. People are going to be Christmas shopping. They're going to be spending money. I know this is the theme of this thing. it's sunday night who's going to take the texans at sunday night like i need to make some money back here everyone's going to load up on the pats and it's going to go to six is is this a kitchen sink game for the texans i don't think so any any like trick play they've been sitting on all year they use it in this game i see you know what i mean maybe this is the game where like jj watts all of a sudden playing tight

in like they're doing everything and jj watt i could see that jj watt's gonna be uh basically an animal in this game he's gonna be a wild animal do you sit brady for the first half maybe see how you do with houston i would have sat him. We were down 35. I tweeted this. We were down by three touchdowns and he got crushed on first down. I was like, get this guy out of here. This game's over.

He's been hit 25 times. He's 38 years old. All of a sudden, it wasn't over. Yeah. I still feel like, I don't know. Well, the Texans

will be up for this. I don't think that guy can hit. But I don't think that's a fair line. Well, there's a couple issues. Yeah. Hopkins. Mm-hmm.

He's got some size. If I were the Texans, I would just do jump balls with the Pat Steebecks. Really? Yeah. Just over and over again. Yeah. And the Watt thing's going to be an issue. Clowney's coming on a little, too, which I don't like.

Yeah, you get it from both sides. Yeah, I don't like that. I'm a tad worried. It could be interesting interesting how about that you're not never ever gonna lose three in a row how about that giants at miami so i couldn't make the dolphins a favorite in this game as much as I didn't want to have the Giants as a favorite, but I just, the Dolphins stink. So I had the Giants by one. That was a well-constructed sentence. Thank you. I had Dolphins by two and it's Dolphins by one. So you beat me for the week and you're nine and five taking a commanding lead. I think the funny thing about this Dolphins season is now the entire Miami fan base

has now moved on to the Heat. Yeah. And the Dolphins games are just happening in a vacuum. That was terrible. I know, I mean, the Ravens isn't a great draw, but we looked at the beginning of the third quarter, they showed the stands. Yeah.

I mean, you could name the people, and it was ridiculous. I think they're just so tired of the Dolphins being Dolphiny. Andy and now the giant so how many giant fans will there'll be more giant fans there i think the giants are the lock of the year really yeah i think if that line's under three they're the lock of the wow giants are a decent team that's an early monday call put him in a wheelchair by the way great old age homes in mi for Coughlin if he just wants to stay. Yeah, that's true. Maybe he can look for condos while he's there.

Old New Yorkers end up there. Tax-free property. Get him in. Tom Coughlin was late to the game while he was looking for condos in Vero Beach. Oh, man. How red? I mean, you're going to miss his red face in January. There is no way they should lose to the Dolphins. Probably not. man, how red, I mean, you're going to miss his red face in January.

There's no way they should lose to the Dolphins. Probably not. Actually, my prediction is they'll be up by 14 points at some point in this game, and then I'll have my break loose. Yeah. This also could be the game where Sue's like, I'm out of here. I'm just going to get suspended for these last two. Right, yeah, he's been kind of quiet with that on that front. He makes some sort of Jason Pierre Paul joke. I think he steps on jpp's hand and cost him another digit i could see that

that would be controversial yeah jpp gave an interview about the fireworks thing but then decided he didn't want to talk about it halfway through it oh really yeah he had this interview and it was like there was a lot of blood. I passed out. The last thing I remember is don't cut my hand. It's telling them don't cut my hand off, but it was fine. It's all good. It's like, it doesn't just sounds pretty traumatic. You have a very nice 4th of July party every year that I attend.

And I think you should invite JPP this year. Not going to get the invite. Why? No. No? No. Not inviting him. They're not a threat to you.

No, he's fun. Who's more fun than JPP? I'm to the house. That's terrible. I think the Giants are fine. All right. Five and seven. I have one thing to bring up to you.

I'm hesitant to bring this up. You know how little kids gravitate toward like Steph Curry. Little kids love Steph Curry. My son likes Odell Beckham. Oh, that's not good. The one-handed catches. Somebody at school was showing on something. They got on the YouTube and they were showing catches and he got excited.

And then he was watching football with me yesterday and Odell made a one handed catch. It could have easily been two hands, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So then we were sitting in here and, and,

and, uh, he's like, try, I want to catch one. So I'm throwing him catches, try to catch one. And I'm like,

Oh no, what is gone through the same thing? Yeah. It's bad. But you know what? Other players now make one handed catches and that's what you have to do you have to see i'm like oh look this guy did it too deandre hopkins did it and uh you know michael crabtree grabbed him with one hand that's you have to find that and shove that down his throat well you know what i did i i ended up i fixed it

what'd you do you know my son loves michael jackson i told him odell beckham killed michael jackson that's good So now he thinks. So now he's kind of out on him. He killed him. He took the white glove off. And that's how he's making all these catches. I said, Ben, you know what Odell did. I was like, what? That's good.

Murdered Michael Jackson. So now I think I'm okay. But we'll see. I might have to create a fake webpage that lays out what Odell Beckham did to Michael Jackson. It might be my only chance. I can't have my son root for one of the Giants. I think that's good. I keep it going.

It's whatever it takes. OBJ beat the shit out of Santa Claus outside of a strip club. Oh, that's what, maybe they'll do that one too. Yeah. Hates golden retrievers. I did all this stuff with my daughter with the Lakers and it worked. It worked? Kobe Bryant hates golden retrievers.

Diabolical. A whole bunch of stuff, yeah. Yeah. All right, so I won the week that's it you won jimmy kim alive watch tonight we have the cast of the hateful eight quentin tarantino samuel l jackson kurt russell jennifer jason lee and rick ross is performing later in the week albert albert brooks wanda sykes and calista flockhart uh i'm on twitter at the cousin sal and sports center one and two last week but six of seven now with my best bets in the last seven weeks.

Saints this week. Ten and three on the year. I took the Saints. I took the Bills against the Patriots. I covered both against undefeated teams. I can't lose, but I'm not betting my own advice here. It's terrible. You should take the Giants and their pinaco playing geezer coach tom coffin

as he looks like that condos in florida yeah i do i enjoy it yeah he is over 70 i think it's all fair i think it's all fair joke no no no i think you really like the giants oh i like i haven't heard you this confident about a team on a monday i think the dolphins are terrible i didn't just flat out they suck that's a bottom And there's never a home field advantage. And none of their fans would defend them either. I'm with you. Thanks to Dunkin' Donuts. They just launched their DD Perks loyalty program.

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sell event tickets. Learn more at SeatGeek.com slash BS. Don't forget to check out the Channel 33 podcast. We got more coming up this week. We have not had a female guest. I think I've done 35. Really? 35 episodes.

What's your deal against girls? No. No, it's just mostly it's just been people I'm either friends with or friends of college with. All right. I got it. So we're going to fix that.

We're going to have a female guest this week. Sarah Thomas, the referee that was treated in a condescending manner by your... It's the lady in Boca Raton who's going to do real estate for Tom Coughlin. She's coming on. It's going to be great. Anyway, BS podcast coming back to you. Wait, who is are we are you having a female guest or no i really am this week oh you're not announcing it no i'm not saying who

it is i'm just saying we have a female guest i thought it was just you're keeping score we haven't had a female guest so no we have a female guest it's happening all right it's happening all right uh cuz i'm gonna say lena oh last thing did you hear mike francesa talk about the rocky movies no no but i heard he was back with Dog for a day. That happened too, but somebody on YouTube has an 11-minute cut of Francesa just repeatedly talking about the Rocky movies with Carlos. And at one point this New York caller comes in and he's like, in Creed, his bastard son came in.

He called him a bastard son. And Mike's just talking and laughing. Mike hates Rocky IV. He does? And thought the Rocky III Thunderlip scene was ridiculous. Oh, come on. Loved Rocky I. I liked II.

II's a good sequel. It's no Godfather II, but it's good. It's just a lot of that stuff. Rocky IV was ridiculous. He would have been a great Burt Young if there was no Burt Young, right? He should have played the part of the crotchety old brother-in-law. He would have been good. Yeah.

You know, in Creed, did you see Creed? Yeah. Yeah, we talked about it. Pauly's grave is shown at one point. Yeah, yeah, right next to the sister. Pauly Barrero? Right, yeah. He died like three years ago.

Did Pauly have a last name In Rocky 1 or Rocky 2 No I don't think so He had a So we had Mickey Goldbone We had Pauli Pauli Barrero Whatever his name was You have to name them

When they put it on the Tombstone Otherwise before that It's not necessary Rocky 1 We should Next time we'll talk about it But

It's You don't like it It's a little date rapey there It hasn't aged well date rapey he basically pins her against the corner as he's trying to seduce her i'll have to watch it again really she's not totally into it right this is in the pet store or no no it's like his apartment right right right so it's uncomfortable yeah you're right yeah and then uh and then then burt young like takes her turkey And just throws That was bad

That was bad Really made me feel bad for Adrian Cause I've I've been so mean to her In my columns And podcasts and stuff You're mean to Adrian It's not a real person

Well she's terrible She's a quitter She's a quitter? She's a quitter She told Rocky not to quit She told him in Rocky No she did in Rocky 3 But then in Rocky 4

Yeah She tells him you can't win Like literally it says Rocky 3, but then in Rocky 4. Yeah. She tells him, you can't win. Like literally says, you can't win. You can't beat Drago. And then he goes to Russia without her. She doesn't go. And then she shows up.

She makes it there. She made it there. Yeah, like a half hour at the end of the movie. Once he's in shape, she's like, oh, maybe I should go. It's like, no, stay home. Right, right, right. One thing that would not happen, and the the kid the son would not be watching the fight the fight that his father could get killed and he wouldn't be watching on tv do you think he could age eight years after the fight like he did between four and five that was something else

that was good do you think apollo should have been in in a coma or actually dead i like dead i like that from i like the the heart what about a coma he's in a coma or actually dead i like dead i like that from i like the the heart what about a coma he's in a wheelchair watching it with rocky's son at the end yeah they did the coma thing though with adrian right yeah and literally it was a coma like the audience went in a coma so long yeah god that movie needed an editor what are we we waiting for? That's what he meant. It was 20 minutes of buildup to what are we waiting for, but the 20 minutes is excruciating. It's a long time. And Sly was writing, directing, and starring in it,

so everybody was afraid to say to him, like, hey, Sly, we don't need another church scene. Right. Did you read the interview with Carl Weathers who said that He's salty. He got the job because he read with Stallone, who was introduced as just the writer on it. And he's like, well, I'll do better if I could read with a real actor.

And Stallone liked that. Oh, he said that? Yeah. And also, Carl Weathers was surprisingly young when he took that role. He was like 30, right? I think he was like 28. Isn't that weird? That's weird.

He's salty about getting killed off. He is, yeah. Yeah. I think he felt like he, Rocky V, he could have helped, maybe. And Adam Sandler did the same thing to him. Yeah. All right, cuz. Good job by you.

Good job by you, Billy. We about this bitch. Anytime y'all want to see me again, rewind this track right here. Close your eyes. And picture me rollin'.