The Bill Simmons Podcast - Ep. 50: Friday Rollin' w/ Joe House, JackO & Bill's Dad

Episode Date: January 15, 2016

HBO's Bill Simmons brings on Joe House to discuss Round 2 best bets, catches up with JackO on Trump/Republican Party & Bill's Dad breaks down Pats-Chiefs matchup. Topics include: abysmal D.C. sports t...eams, Chandler Jones' hospital visit (6:15 mark), Andy Reid & Ned Yost (11:30), Pitt-Den (18:00), GB-Cards (24:00), Panthers-Hawks (35:00), Spurs-GSW(39:00), Trump (44:00), weird Pats week (58:00) and Celtics shake-up (1:08:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:17 What up, house? All right, we're rolling. Round two. Disappointing performance by us in round one. I was 2-0 heading into the Sunday games and then took the 0-2 collar after, well, I knew I was going to lose the Seattle game once Marshawn Lynch decided not to make the trip. Thanks, Marshawn. Thanks for that.
Starting point is 00:01:41 But your favorite team, the Washington professional football team, they let you down. They let me down. They let the District of Columbia down. Well, it was a gravy game. It was a gravy game. Oh, you're such a loser. That's such a loser mentality.
Starting point is 00:01:57 When's the last time Washington won? What are you talking about? When you haven't won a title in eons, that's what you say is, Oh, it was a gravy game. It was a playoff. Hey, buddy, we haven't won a playoff game in eons? That's what you say. Oh, it was a gravy game. It was a playoff. Hey, buddy, we haven't won a playoff game in eons. True. Forget about a title.
Starting point is 00:02:11 When was the last Washington title? The last Washington title. The 91 Super Bowl. The Caps played in the Stanley Cup in 98. That's it, right? That's the closest. 98, 99, somewhere like that. Why doesn't anyone ever call
Starting point is 00:02:27 Washington, D.C. sports fans tortured? You've had 25 years of hell. I will rep D.C.U. a little bit, the red and the black. The D.C. United soccer program has had some success over that time period. What are you talking about? Soccer is very popular here in Washington.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Let's recap your points. Our playoff loss was gravy, and at least we have the D.C. United. It was a one-score game with four minutes left in the third quarter, and then it all went to hell. But, you know, the defense was smoke and mirrors the whole season, anyway. Yeah. I wish you had told
Starting point is 00:02:55 me that before I picked the Washington professional football team. I wasn't going to go against them. I didn't have any angles or insider points on the stupid D.C. Grudens. It's just I'm not picking against them in the playoffs. We both went 2-2. I had the big losers in both games, Houston and the D.C. I do think if Deshaun Jackson just reaches out and puts the ball over the goal line,
Starting point is 00:03:18 which is what most people do when they're next to the goal line, you're up 9-0, and maybe the game's a little different at that point. It's a two-score rather than a one-score, for sure. Green Bay really got into the zone. It was old vintage A-Rod. What does he go by? Not A-Rod. I'm going to say he's going to be Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Well, I'll tell you, I have A-Rod on the brain, and we'll get to it a little while later during the discussion today. I don't even want to know what that means. I have a personal thing. Maybe I'll just tell about it now since I have A-Rod on the brain. Did you know that I tore my rotator cuff? When? Did I tell you that?
Starting point is 00:04:00 It's a full – I probably did it in 2014 and then really did serious damage over the fall of this year. Because I never really got it fixed. Full thickness tear of the supraspinatus is the diagnosis. But guess what? What I have scheduled for Tuesday. HGH? Almost.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Platelet-rich plasma body. Oh, that's fantastic. Yeah, Kobe, Tiger, A-Rod. Oh, that's great. All my heroes. Derrick Rose, I'm going in there, buddy. And doing it. I'm going right in.
Starting point is 00:04:38 If it's good enough for Kobe and A-Rod, it's good enough for me. Are you doing it with a director from Canada who doesn't have U.S. citizenship and has weird connections to biogenesis clinics? I just want to let you know that this treatment was approved for the 2014 Winter Olympics. Oh, there you go. It offers an exciting, safe, and simple option for improving tendon repair quality and the rate of healing. So how could I say no?
Starting point is 00:05:09 I'm really excited. I hope you should just ask your doctor, float it out about the HGH. Just ask him. Hey, man. I'm sitting in there. I'm laying down. He's taking the blood. He's putting the blood back in.
Starting point is 00:05:23 What about a little shot of something extra just for the effort? All right. So we're going to zoom through these a little bit because we've got to bring in Jacko because he's having a psychotic meltdown about the Republican Party. Because the fate of the free world is in the balance at the moment? Yeah, and I'm going to call my dad at the tail end just because he's got medics in the house 24-7 after the Gronk, Chandler Jones, all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:45 So he's freaking out. Pats-KC is the first Saturday game. Pats are favored by five. This game is in the Vegas zone. Oh, I saw four and a half. You saw four and a half? Between four and a half and five. I did.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Interesting. I have it open right now. It says four and a half. I've seen five everywhere. Well, regardless, we'll say it's five. Okay. A couple red flags here for the Patriots. Their best pass rusher was reportedly shirtless outside a police station
Starting point is 00:06:17 and acting bizarre and might have had a really bad, what do you call it, reaction to synthetic marijuana, which if this happened to any other team, I would be making fun of this person. But since it's one of the Patriots, I have no comment. That was weird. Belichick had a black eye at the press conference, which he refused to explain. I thought that was strange. Gronkowski went to the hospital yesterday for reasons that remain unclear. Edelman is playing tomorrow, but we haven't seen him in two weeks.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Amendola's playing, but he's a little bit banged up. We've had 77,000 different offensive line combinations, and people seem to like the Chiefs a little bit. Where do you stand? There's a lot to like with the Chiefs. The run that they're on is coming up on kind of historic. They have had great success against the point spread
Starting point is 00:07:11 this season in terms of the differential. The performance last week was dominant and yet I'm not selecting the Chiefs this week either. Here's what I love about this game. We see it pretty much every year. Somebody kicks somebody else's ass in round one,
Starting point is 00:07:29 usually the worst team in round one, and they're feeling good. Everybody's catching the fumes of that round one blowout. They get excited for that team in round two, and they go on the road, and they get killed. That happens a lot. It happens a lot. I'm hoping that that happens here.
Starting point is 00:07:48 My thing is, I think the Pats defense is really good. Like, really good. And everybody's back now. And I just think the Chiefs are going to have a crap load of trouble moving the ball, especially whether Macklin plays or not. Either he's not going to play or he's going to play at like 50%. Either way, that's great for the Pats. The Chiefs have their, you know, the Charkandrick, West, Spencer Ware.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Those guys are fine. They're not game breakers. I'm not terrified of them. The tight end's really good, Kelsey. One thing the Patriots linebackers can do when they're all healthy is is you know they can stay with the tight ends yeah i just think the chiefs are going to have a ton of trouble moving the ball i think this is gonna be a lower scoring game than people think i also think just people forget how good the patriots are when they have everybody that's
Starting point is 00:08:41 the well it's easy to forget it's been a long time the whole offense revolves around Gronk at the line is a blocker but able to go straight out down the field or cut out or do whatever Gronk does but then these two receivers that either run run across each other in the middle or act like they're running across each other and then cut back out and you open up that whole middle of the field, and the defense is so worried about that, it takes the pressure off the offensive line. But my point is, you can't pull any of those people out of that
Starting point is 00:09:14 and then expect the offense to look good. It really hinges on those three guys. Is James White the release valve running back? He's like the third down guy. I actually think they're going to rely on Steven Jackson. That is what I wanted to hear. That's so funny in the first place. Well, they took him for a test drive.
Starting point is 00:09:34 But also kind of exciting. They took him for a test drive in week 17. He looked good. Yeah. He's only 32. He's still in shape. It's not like he's Corey Dillon in 2005 or something. But he can pass block. He can run. He can get the shape. It's not like he's Corey Dillon in 2005 or something, but he can pass block,
Starting point is 00:09:45 he can run, he can catch the ball in the backfield. And I think what you're going to see is him out there with Gronk, Edelman, Amendola, and it's going to look like the Patriots again. And when the Patriots have all their guys, guess what? They score points. Yeah, I just think
Starting point is 00:10:01 in the playoffs, you go against Belichick at your peril. 4-0-1 against the spread off back-to-back losses. Since 1980 in the conference semifinals, teams that lost the last two games this season, 6-0 against the spread. I mean, you can't talk me into the Chiefs if I'm not getting a full touchdown.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Here's what they did when they had their full offense. 28 points against Pittsburgh, 40 against Buffalo, 51 against Jacksonville, 30 against Dallas, 34 against Indy, 30 against the Jets, 36 against Miami, 27 against Washington, 27 against the Giants. That was the first 10 weeks of the season. They never had less than 27 points in a game. Yeah. So the question is now that everybody's back i would say 27 is about where they're going to end up in this game
Starting point is 00:10:53 especially if justin houston doesn't play so can a can the chiefs get over 20 with macklin hurt and with the pats defense which again is a really good defense, and came on as the season went along. And B, can the Chiefs get to 28 to actually win the game? I don't see it. Yeah. This is the thing. I like to, when I'm envisioning a line in this dead number, four and a half, five, what's the final score that I like?
Starting point is 00:11:26 And I like something like 27-20 or 27-21. One more case for the Chiefs. Randy from our old Grantland baseball writer brought this up to me. Diehard KC fan. Feels like his life has been irrevocably altered by the World Series. Everything he looks at now, he looks at differently. His point is, he never thought they could win the World Series with Ned Yost.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Sure. And now he looks at Andy Reid, and Randy said, Andy Reid is basically at Ned Yost. He's like this weird eccentric guy. Weird things happen. You think you don't have a chance with him, and yet there's really no difference between those two from, from,
Starting point is 00:12:08 you know, they, they get results that make you nervous. And he's just like, now that I've won a world series with Ned Yost, I feel so much more comfortable with Andy Reid in the playoffs. And I was like, damn,
Starting point is 00:12:19 that's actually pretty good. I like it, but it's still Belichick against Andy Reid. I think, I think the Pats are pissed off. I think this is going to be a pissed off
Starting point is 00:12:28 Pats game. Like with all the media stuff this week, I think Belichick's mad. They didn't end the season well. They haven't looked like themselves
Starting point is 00:12:33 in a few weeks. And I think they're annoyed. The media stuff is kind of funny. It's not media stuff. It's defensive linemen on his knees
Starting point is 00:12:43 at the police station. Well, you can't judge. He couldn't really speak. He's just on his knees with his hands crossed in prayer. We don't know what happened. He couldn't really explain what was wrong with him. We don't know what happened. Look.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I enjoyed that. Most males have been in a spot in their lives where they might have put something into their body that they shouldn't have and had a reaction that they weren't proud of. That's my defense of Chandler Jones. I hope to be doing that outside my bedroom tonight after the meatloaf I intend to eat for Friday night dinner. I remember when I was living in Charlestown in the mid-90s. We had a baseball draft. Remember the baseball draft?
Starting point is 00:13:24 You and Jack Oren, you were called the Black Jacks. You and Jack Oren had a baseball draft. Remember the baseball draft? You and Jack O'Reilly were called the Black Jacks. You and Jack O'Reilly are a team. People don't realize that you and Jack O'Reilly are like boys. We're thick as thieves, and it's not coincidental that we sound identical. Everybody keeps saying we sound alike. There's a reason. We're boys. So we had a baseball draft.
Starting point is 00:13:43 We went to a couple bars, and we ended up at Sully's in Charlestown. My favorite bar. Shout out to Sully's. Shout out to Jack at Sully's. That's my dude. We're all there. We're hanging out and you disappear. You're just gone.
Starting point is 00:14:00 You're like, that's weird. Where's House? House is gone, right? He must have gone. We just immediately assume you went to find food. Maybe an hour and a half past, no sign of house. Go back to my apartment, which was, you know, a five minute walk from Sully's. I'm on the second floor, walk up the stairs and you're just passed out like a corpse in front of the front door. Do you remember this? Well, so you're missing two crucial details. I do remember it. I remember it acutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:30 One crucial detail. One of the visitors at that time, now the occasion was the baseball draft for all of us to be together there. Yeah. But we had one of our near and dear friends, the Blue Boy, who's made many appearances over the years. Oh living in Portland at the time, but was back on the East Coast at the time of this draft.
Starting point is 00:14:52 He might have brought some stuff from Portland. He arrived from Portland, that's right. He was packing. Speaking of a nature box, the Blue Boy had a nature know, I'm not a person that really cares so much about, you know, being under the influence. I'm a dabbler. I'm a dabbler. The blue boy, what was in his nature bag, did something to me. It rendered me speechless, literally speechless while we were out at the bars and I had to leave. I made a gesture to
Starting point is 00:15:29 somebody that I was leaving. I came back and sat on that stoop and waited for my ability to speak to return. And it didn't. I couldn't, words could not come out of my mouth. Yeah. Thanks, blue boy. So if there had been the Foxborough police station nearby, you might have ended up there shirtless. And on my knees. Yeah. So that's blue boy. So if there had been the Foxborough police station nearby, you might have ended up there shirtless.
Starting point is 00:15:46 And on my knees. Yeah. So that's my point. We've all been there. I'll tell my story next week. Yeah. But yeah, stuff happens. Chandler Jones.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Hey, by the way. So I, you know, obviously I'm in my mid 40s now. I'm not really the synthetic marijuana generation. I do not understand synthetic. It sounds like people are just smoking poison. This is the thing that's very scary to me. How the hell is there any quality control? What do you know you're getting?
Starting point is 00:16:17 I think what Blue Boy gave me had something funky added to it. I think he gave me a PCP bomb. I think it was just Oregon. They just grow better. It's nice and moist. My system was not ready for anything like that. We were in the East Coast smoking skunk weed. Well, I didn't
Starting point is 00:16:36 even smoke. I'm just, you know, this vanilla kid from Washington, D.C. That's why I retired when I moved to California. It was like going from single aid to the majors for, for, uh, for,
Starting point is 00:16:48 for that kind of stuff. Sure. Uh, but yeah, kids out there don't smoke. Um, let's go. I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:55 I'm, I don't support it. I mean, you might end up speechless. Bad for your lungs. Bad for your lungs. You might end up speechless. You might end up on your knees in the Foxborough police station.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Uh, just stay away. Just drink beer. Or, Tate, you're listening? Just drink liquor with no stuff like cranberry juice, soda, like that. Just be careful. Yeah, clear liquor. Clear liquor. Watch your body when you get older.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah, when you get older, you feel. Delicious vodka with a splash of water and a little lemon. That's a wonderful drink. You feel all the mistakes you made in your 20s when you hit your 40s. I'll leave it at that. You do. Next game, Broncos-Steelers.
Starting point is 00:17:30 And on that note... Yeah. So we still have no idea who the hell's playing for Pittsburgh, right? No, we have some idea. Antonio Brown is now out. That just happened. Oh.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Yeah. So the line's going to move. The line is now Broncos 9. Yeah, you had to buy it at 7. It opened at 5.5. It immediately jumped to 7. And if you didn't buy it at 7, you're, you know. 9, I don't like.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I'm not picking Pittsburgh, but I don't like 9. The good news is that Ben Roethlisberger has a ripped up shoulder. He's going to play anyway. So the problem with taking Pittsburgh is putting your fate in the potential hands of Landry Jones. Yeah, I would
Starting point is 00:18:17 say that's more than a problem. I would say that's a terrifying proposition. On the road against the best defense in the NFL. Yeah. Do either of us really think Denver's the best defense in the NFL? I don't think that. They were, they, over the course of the season.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I know, but they really. They held it together in an impressive way. They really rendered the inefficiency at quarterback, which is a pretty interesting accomplishment in this day and age, where quarterback is by far the most important position in the entire game. They were able to overcome a pretty abysmal quarterback situation with that defense. Let me ask you, Ben Roethlisberger with a banged up shoulder, is that any different
Starting point is 00:19:07 than Peyton Manning with his current body? In the sense that he might not be able to play, yes. He might come out after one series. The first time he gets knocked down and it's going to happen in the first possession. I think he's playing. down, and it's going to happen in the first possession. I think he's playing.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I think that guy's indestructible. I agree that he's playing. I'm just saying he might be re-injured in a way that really limits his effectiveness very early in the game, and then you're stuck with super injured Ben or Landry Jones. And we saw that last week. It wasn't a good combo. The other issue is with Brown out.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Like, I thought Pittsburgh's receivers were excellent. But one of the reasons Martavis Bryant is excellent is he's the number two receiver with Antonio Brown, and they're worried about Antonio Brown, and he's going against the second-best guy on the other team, that whole thing. Now the defenses can actually try to take him out, which leads us to Wheaton,
Starting point is 00:20:09 who now has to actually make some plays. And then on top of it, you have, what's, I don't even remember, I can't even remember the third string running back's name. Francois Toussaint? Yeah, Francois Pierre Trudeau Truffaut. Yeah, that guy. If they fall behind like 10 to nothing, you'd be concerned.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Now here's the case for Pittsburgh. Let's hear it. Number one, it's the playoffs, which means Aqib Tlaib will be leaving the game in the second quarter with an injury and never to return because that's his move. And I'm not bitter at all about that as a Pats fan. But Pittsburgh's defense might be able to stop Denver a little bit here. They have like the fifth or sixth ranked run defense. Might even be higher than that.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And I think they have the sixth ranked defense overall. The one thing that they're bad at is stopping deep balls. Manning can't really throw deep. So this might just be like a 10-7 game where they have a chance to steal it. And, you know, who knows with Manning? Are we sure Peyton Manning's good? The guy was 19-8 and 17 picks when he got benched for a few weeks because he was hurt.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Yeah, we have no idea whether he's good. But I just can't lay the points with all the injuries at Pittsburgh. It's a lot of points, man. Well, the difference between seven and nine, I'm going to go back into the combobulator and try and come up with some angles. I like Denver pretty well at seven. And that's the pick that, that appears on, on, you know, in a public place. That's the pick that I'll be making.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Well, there's going to be one walk game this week. And this one has the most potential. I think I could totally see Pittsburgh winning this game and all, and like everyone teasing Denver with everything and throwing them in every parlay and oh yeah, Antonio Brown's, Roethlisberger's hurt, cross off Pittsburgh. Meanwhile a week ago we were saying Pittsburgh was the biggest sleeper threat in the AFC. So and I totally get the reasons. My point is we've gone from... An extraordinary sequence at the end of that Bengals game.
Starting point is 00:22:23 A snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. I get it. The likes of which, you know. I get it. It just, nine seems high. I don't believe in this Denver team. Nine seems high. Let's congratulate them, though, for being the luckiest team ever, I think.
Starting point is 00:22:40 This is the luckiest NFL team that's ever lived. Like a true Pats fan. The horseshoe that lives up Denver's ass is like encrusted in little diamond studs. It's unbelievable. Yeah, I'm bitter. You are bitter. Oh, congratulations. I think Peyton Manning might have killed Al Jazeera America. He did do that.
Starting point is 00:23:02 There's a little cause and effect there, right? Talk about a W. I won't see you, but just shut the whole thing down and we'll be good. I like that. He never denied that his wife got the HGH, by the way. No. Has your wife ever gotten any HGH? I don't know anybody who has gotten HGH. I've never met one person in my life who has gotten HGH except for Jacoby's grandmother. Jacoby's grandmother. He's 92 years old. That's right.
Starting point is 00:23:33 So I'm going to do something crazy here. Go ahead. I'm going to take the Steelers. It's not that crazy. Big Ben obviously has a really good record. Three and one against the spread as a road dog. Peyton's terrible at home with rest during the postseason. 1-6
Starting point is 00:23:51 against the spread. 0-5 against the spread if his team's favored by 7 or more. I just think it's a low scoring game. I think the defenses control this game. And I think Pittsburgh goes super conservative and they try to have their defense make plays, and they
Starting point is 00:24:08 try to get Manning to lose the game. And that's their game plan. I like the narrative. I don't know the answer yet to who I'm going to pick, but I like the narrative. I would have bought Denver at 7 this morning. Here's my money. Denver
Starting point is 00:24:23 minus 7. The move. By the way, I think this game's a stay away. Denver at seven this morning. Here's my money. Denver minus seven. The move. By the way, I think this game's a stay away. I wouldn't bet on it. I wouldn't do anything. I just have to pick it. But the move, if I had to do anything in this game,
Starting point is 00:24:35 is Pittsburgh plus 300 to win outright. Yeah, I like that a lot. Those are good odds. Manning could just suck in this game. He could throw three picks and single-handedly blow it for Denver. All right. Let's go. Let's say Panther Seahawks for last. Cardinals, Packers.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Cards by seven? You have it at seven? I have it at seven, yep. I just think Arizona's great. I'm not thrown off at all by the Week 17 thing. I don't think the Packers are very good. I think I watched a lot the Packers are very good. I think, I watched a lot of Packers games this year.
Starting point is 00:25:07 The three quarters they played in Washington, the second, third, and fourth quarters, had no relation to anything I saw for three months from them, other than the one Minnesota game when Bridgewater got hurt. I just don't think Green Bay is very good.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And I think Arizona is great. I think they're a monster home team. And I just think they're going to roll over them. This feels like a 40 to – this feels like one of those games where Rogers is down 28 and is kind of rallying back and you get worried about laying the minus seven in the fourth quarter because he's going for cheap touchdowns. I just don't think they have any chance to beat Arizona. I agree with every single thing you just said.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I have a tiny angle to add into it. Teams that lost their last regular season game and then won in the wild card cover 10% of the time when they're going up against a team like Arizona who lost its last last regular season game but i mean arizona number one ranked off as number five ranked defense the difference in class between the dc grudens and the arizona cardinals is um sizable and i'm i was impressed by uh green bay it was a good lesson for theC. Grudens to see what kind of a seasoned
Starting point is 00:26:25 outfit, the combination McCarthy and Rodgers, they gave Randall Cobb the ball in about 15 different positions during that game, and Washington can't figure out a way to get Deshaun Jackson the ball. It was a good lesson to the D.C.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Grudens, but lesson time, going up against a team like the D.C. Grudens, but less in time, going up against a team like the D.C. Grudens who you make the playoffs once every presidential election cycle and going up against... Bruce Arians is a good effing coach. Every week I look at the numbers for him in situations like this and he's just kicking ass and taking names.
Starting point is 00:27:02 So, yeah, difference in class. I love Arizona here. So, you know, I keep track of the straight wins, straight losses in either or games. Arizona had 12 legitimate wins, two legitimate losses in two either or games this season. That was the best record in the NFL, wasn't it? Yeah, it was up there. And in seven of those wins, which I always, if you just kick somebody's ass, I always write ass kick next to it. It's seven of the 12 wins were ass kicks.
Starting point is 00:27:29 48-23 over Chicago. 47-7 over San Francisco. 42-17 Detroit. 27-3 Rams. 40-17 Eagles. And they killed the Packers in Week 16. Six of them, I'm sorry, not seven. Oh, no, and they killed the Browns, 34-20.
Starting point is 00:27:51 My point is they pour it on when they're up. I think that's a crucial thing to remember, especially in Round 2 with like seven points. Oh, that's a lot. Certain teams just turn it up when they have the lead. This is one of those teams. I love the running back, the rookie running back. I think he's really good.
Starting point is 00:28:09 It's incredible they're on their third running back, and all of the running backs this season have been badasses. Yeah. That's incredible. By contrast, Denver, who had four legitimate wins, three legitimate losses, and nine either-or games. Here are the margins that they won this year. 6.7, 12, 3, 6, 3 in overtime, 19 over the Packers.
Starting point is 00:28:36 That was their biggest win. 2, 6 over the Pats in OT. They beat the Chargers 17-3, so 14. Week 16, they won by 3. Week 16, they won by three. Week 17, they won by seven. This is not a team that blows. Yeah, they don't blow teams out. I'm taking Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Are you switching? Well, I want to see if the line goes up. I'm switching. This was breaking news that the line went from seven to nine because Brown was confirmed out. Let's take Pittsburgh. Whatever. Let's take Pittsburgh plus nine. Yeah, I'm switching. At 9, this was breaking news that the line went from 7 to 9 because Brown was confirmed out. Let's take Pittsburgh. Whatever. Let's take Pittsburgh plus 9.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Yeah, I'm taking Pittsburgh. Very hard for Denver to win by 14 plus. They just don't have the track record this season. If it was Pittsburgh and Arizona, I'd be like, no effing way. I'm taking Arizona. They're going to pour it on. Denver is not a pour it on team. All right, last game.
Starting point is 00:29:27 By the way, Arizona has the best Super Bowl odds, plus 360. Pats are plus 400. Carolina's plus 500. Denver is plus 500 now. That's kind of interesting. Seattle plus 575. And then it gets a little wonky after that. All right, last game.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Panthers, Seahawks. It's been between one and a half and two. We'll just call it two. Panthers were 15 and one this year. They did not lose a game at home. They have two weeks rest. They have the best player in the league. They're playing a team that just played
Starting point is 00:30:04 one of the all-time debilitating cold weather games ever and should have lost if somebody had made a 22-yard field goal and looked impotent offensively except for the play when the ball got snapped past Russell and he picked it up and was going to take a sack but realized nobody was going to sack him and ran around and got a 50-yard play out of it. That team is getting less than three points in Carolina. I don't think I've seen a nobody believes in us game like this in a while for Carolina. I mean, this is just flat out insulting. How are they not favored by three house? You know, I think at this stage of a full half decade in with Seattle
Starting point is 00:30:47 and the success that they keep showing in the playoffs, is it five years now? It's four years. Yeah, they played two playoff games in 2012. They won the Super Bowl the next year, and they lost in the last minute of the Super Bowl last year. They've played, I think, eight or nine playoff games in the last three years, and all of them have been close.
Starting point is 00:31:07 They've not gotten their ass kicked once. So that run of sustained success in the playoff makes it such that, you know, you want folks to, Vegas wants people to play the Panthers. They have to entice people. Now, I saw in here the Panthers had 70% of the action at three, and I guess because it's on that magic number. But everybody, every sort of commentator or whatever that I look at in terms of making picks loves Seattle in this position.
Starting point is 00:31:39 And I love Seattle in this position. It's a different Seattle team than the one that lost to Carolina midseason. And, by the way, they had 15 different ways to win that game. They were winning the entire game until they lost. And, you know, Panthers missing two of the top three cornerbacks. Seattle has now a whole bunch of defensive guys that they didn't have the first time they met, including my boy Bobby Wagner and my boy Jeremy Lane, two of the greats. You know, I like – we talked about this last week.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Seattle has their starting defense. Now, last week, you know, we called that almost perfect. Oh, you took Seattle because of the Marshawn Lynch thing. I said it was going to be 10-7. I mean, I didn't know it was going to be 10-9, but. The cousin I teased Seattle with the under and won, but I don't feel good about it because Blair Walsh's life was ruined. And I like Vikings fans, and I don't.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Did you see the story Blair Walsh was with the first graders? Oh, that's nice. Whole bunch of first graders wrote him don't feel bad notes and then he went and visited with them. He's okay. Blair's alright. Before we give our picks for the best game of the weekend I want to talk about our buddies at Squarespace. They build
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Starting point is 00:33:16 Check that out. Well, what's going to be on this site? House, did Squarespace make it easy for you to build beautiful websites regardless of skill level, no coding needed, easy to use tools, and state-of-the-art technology? I'm a middle-aged non-millennial, and I have to tell you, I was able, with a little bit of help from a millennial, to navigate around, figure the thing out. There's pictures, there's words, there's tabs. There's a website, housefromdc.com. There might be some food in there. There might be some links to Friday Rollin' in there.
Starting point is 00:33:50 There might be some links to some old house eats popping out of that thing. You know, it's a place to go in there and enjoy the silliness that is this character, House from D.C. House, do you realize you're getting 24-7 online support and a beautiful website for only $8 a month?
Starting point is 00:34:08 I did not realize that. Did you realize that you got a free domain for buying Squarespace for the year? I did realize that. That made me happy. Did you go to
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Starting point is 00:34:29 Yeah, 10%, it would have been great. All right, housefromdc.com, check it out. House is the most computer illiterate person I know and somehow has a functional website. And we look forward to you putting up pictures of food.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yeah, there are a lot of pictures of food. The last six months of my life, the food pics, there's some delicious lamb pictures of food. The last six months, uh, of, of my life, the food pics, there's some delicious lamb lollipops in there. The prime roast, uh, the prime rib that I cooked for,
Starting point is 00:34:51 uh, Christmas is up there. Delicious meal at Momofuku here in DC is up there. There's some good pics in there. All right. Panther Seahawks. So this, this,
Starting point is 00:35:03 uh, site called Hawk Blogger Shout out to Hawk Blogger 10 facts you should know about the Seahawks and Panthers Written by Hey, I clicked on that too Yeah, written by Brian Nemhauser Good job, Brian
Starting point is 00:35:15 That's what I just quoted from About the defense being improved Yeah, so he The Seahawks Here are just facts from him The Seahawks have played the Panthers five times in the last four years. They're 4-1 in those games. Carolina has played just four teams with winning records this year,
Starting point is 00:35:31 and two of those teams were 9-7, Houston and Washington. He has the thing you mentioned about how the entire defense is back. Bruce Irvin has seven sacks in four career games against Cam Newton. Kerry Williams does not play for Seattle anymore. It was somebody Cam Newton picked on. Panthers are missing two of their top three cornerbacks. Carolina has only played one game this year where they failed to force a turnover, and that was against Seattle.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Cam Newton's passer rating after three quarters in the first game was 15.5. The Panthers have only trailed one team at halftime and at the end of three quarters this season, and that was Seattle. Carolina this year has only faced one top five defense and one top five offense, and it was the Seattle Seahawks. Thanks to Hawk Blogger for those stats. Great job by Hawk Blogger. I mean, you see all that stuff
Starting point is 00:36:25 and you think this looks really good for Seattle. And yet I'm taking Carolina. We also like the same season revenge angle against the spread. At least I like it. I do too. I'm taking Carolina.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I just want to get all of that whole case out there. I get it. I totally get it. That's fantastic. I just want to get all of that whole case out there. I get it. I totally get it. That's fantastic. I just think this is a nobody believes in this game. And I believe in Cam Newton. I think he's been the best player in the league this year. And this is a Cam Newton, I'm the best player in the league game.
Starting point is 00:36:55 He's going to win this game. I believe in Cam Newton. I'm throwing all their logic out the window. I believe in Cam Newton. I think he's going to win this game. I think he's ready for a big playoff moment. I like what I've seen all season from him. I'm glad.
Starting point is 00:37:10 We're on opposite sides of this. I'm definitely taking Seattle. We need one where we're on the opposite sides of each other. And if Ted Gane drops the 55-yard touchdown that screws me over and leads to the Seattle win, I'm going to be angry. You should prepare to be angry. All right, we'll see. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Carolina, nobody believes in you except for me, Bill Simmons. So we have Pats minus five. We both have that one over KC. We have Pittsburgh plus nine in Denver. We have Arizona minus seven over Green Bay. And you have Seattle plus two. I have Carolina minus two. House. It's a good slate. I have Carolina minus two. House.
Starting point is 00:37:46 It's a good slate. No NBA talk for us this week. Other than, did you see Kawhi shut down LeBron? Yeah, that was an impressive beatdown last night. I mean, they're just the best. Can we just, you know, San Antonio is the best team in basketball. All due respect to Golden State. It's going to be really interesting if everyone's healthy on both sides
Starting point is 00:38:10 and it's San Antonio versus Golden State in round three with Golden State with home court advantage, and yet San Antonio's probably going to be their favorite or it's going to be dead even from a gambling standpoint in that series because when they throw out Duncan and Aldridge together with Kawhi, with, can we call it Tony Parker rejuvenated? I feel like we kind of can.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Have you seen him? He looks good. After what we saw over the summer and the pessimism, the proper pessimism from, from how beat up he looked, some combination of rest, maybe, maybe,
Starting point is 00:38:44 maybe a wonderful shipment of Nature Box. Rest, diet, I don't know what else. He's germinated. He looks great. That was my biggest question for him, and he's got the hop and a step back, and they've got shooters, and they've got lots of looks they can throw, but, man, when you're throwing Duncan and Aldridge out together, that is like cleveland
Starting point is 00:39:05 not sure what their answer is yeah and they don't have an answer i i counted out lebron a little bit last year i was like ah you know this is what happens it's year 12 for him he's not at his apex anymore this is a different level for him and then all of a sudden he clicked his fingers and he was lebron again watching this year now it's year 13 for him. The one thing I've noticed, and it'll be interesting to see as the year goes along, if this comes back, but it doesn't seem like his first step is there like it used to be. It seems like people can move their feet left to right and stay in front of him more. And he's getting a lot of calls that seem like they could be charges or a lot of no calls where he's just kind of plowing into guys.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Have you noticed that? Yeah, that's been going on a little bit like the last year and a half, it seems like. But especially this year. Yeah. It just seems like watching Kawhi last night, he just had to look like, I'm going to stay in front of this guy.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I can stay in front of this guy. He can't get by me. And that's, I don't remember, three years ago you did not see that. I don't know. Kawhi is special in that regard too though. He is. I kept telling you, remember earlier in the year I was telling you to buy 50 to 1 MVP
Starting point is 00:40:15 odds on him and you were like, no, I'm too much of a puss. I can't do it. I'm not going to do that. There's no way he can do it. It's going to be Steph Curry. San Antonio Golden State really has a chance. That one has an all-time chance.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Yeah, because the point differential for both of them is like a historical. They're both in the top five or top ten all-time at this point in the season. You know what I liked? That Golden State sucked in Denver without Draymond. I'm starting to think he might be my number one MVP choice.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Oh, you were validated, vindicated by the fact that they didn't look, they looked a little discombobulated. I like that Denver effort, by the way. I like that Denver team. I like guys on that team. I agree. I think they should go the other way and make a trade to try to make the team better. I like Gallinari.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Me too. I like this Will Barton. Oh, man. He was like a second rounder. This guy's a gem. He's a play. I love Will Barton. Farid, I've always liked.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Yeah, they have dudes. They have guys. They have dudes. Moutier feels a little Tyreek-ish. He's a brand new point guard. They gave him the keys. Have you watched? Are you into the college hoops vortex yet or not really?
Starting point is 00:41:38 I'm still circling. I haven't sat down and watched any game from beginning to the end. I watched nearly all of, what was the double overtime game last week? Oh, Kansas-Oklahoma, triple. Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah. I love that dude from Oklahoma. It's a good year for college hoops. It's a rare good year with fun teams.
Starting point is 00:42:01 And what we learned yesterday is Tate hates duke so much that somebody brought up somebody i'd do like duke yesterday and tate just went on some rant about like i've never seen anything like it like we could watch brandon ingram my house could be on fire right now and brandon ingram could go in and pull my kids out of the house and tate would be like oh he's a loser that guy's a loser he never should have he i could have pull my kids out of the house and Tate would be like, ah, he's a loser. That guy's a loser. He never should have. I could have gotten the kids out of the house so much faster than that.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Anyway. All right. We're going to go to Jacko. Yeah. Please figure out a way to save America. The two of you. Housefromdc.com. Check out his new site.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Talk to you soon. All right. All right. Before we get to Jacko, I have a little tip that will save you a huge headache later. You ready? Any home security that says it's free has a huge contract attached. Three years, $1,000. Guess what?
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Starting point is 00:43:21 Simplisafebill.com. Speaking of security, we might need security from Jacko right now. Let's call him. Complex litigation, this is John. Johnny. I was worried about you last night on Twitter. Worry, yeah. It was like, who was the guy in Network in 1976, that movie?
Starting point is 00:43:41 The guy who freaks out? I'm bad as hell, I'm not going to take it anymore. Yeah, that guy. You were that guy. Yeah, Howard something, I think his name was. It escapes me, but yeah, it was not going to take it anymore. Yeah. That guy, you were that guy. Yeah. Howard something. I think his name was, it escapes me, but yeah, it was a little bit before our time, but that's a, that's an iconic scene. So I did remember that. Yeah. I am that guy. I feel like I am that guy screaming that at the Republican party, but they're not listening to me. So they're going to go off the cliff and I'll just be here in the fetal position. You're a diehard Republican who can't believe that your party seems to be going to hell right now in a handbasket.
Starting point is 00:44:11 That's exactly right. I mean, I was raised as a Reagan, Buckley conservative and proudly have maintained that mantle. And I'm just completely dumbfounded that at what should be a very winnable election, the party has hitched its, a large majority of the party, let's not kid ourselves, has hitched its wagon to Donald J. Trump, essentially a lifelong Democrat, certainly a financial supporter of Democrats, and more importantly, a blithering fucking buffoon who is so wildly unqualified to be president that it's downright frightening. And the American people are going to see that and he's going to lose in a landslide. But we're going to go right on his train there. It's frightening.
Starting point is 00:44:59 He had like a poignant moment when he talked about New York and 9-11 last night. And people were like, oh, a human moment from Donald Trump. That's a bad sign. Well, that's the thing. I mean, everybody today is like, people that should know better have been giving him these glowing reviews because he, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:17 wrapped himself up in the mantle of 9-11 in response to Ted Cruz's idiotic attack of New York values. I mean, there's so much more to attack Trump on than the fact that he's from New York. I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. I mean, he was a liberal as of like two years ago, three years ago. So the notion that he has New York values of supporting abortion or gun control or all
Starting point is 00:45:42 the other positions that he held until five minutes ago, Everybody knows that, and they don't seem to care. So I think there's ways to attack Donald Trump more effectively than New York values. And even dumber for Cruz was Trump had gone on TV yesterday. I think it was yesterday before the debate, or maybe it was Wednesday. And it was sometime prior to the debate, and he had basically some reporter had asked him this question, and he already gave the 9-11 answer then. So he had to know he was going to do it again. So it's like, don't walk into his trap of giving him this chance to get misty-eyed about 9-11.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Who are you rooting for? I like Rubio. I think Rubio is the most effective Republican presidential candidate in at least a generation. And that he's young, he's forward-looking, he's well-spoken, he's extremely knowledgeable on the issues. Now, people don't like him because he can come across as too packaged or too rehearsed. I mean, I think he's great in these debates. He always has answers on the issues. And what harms him is that he foolishly got on board with Chuck Schumer and the Gang of Eight immigration bill a few years ago. That would have been a disaster for the country, and it would have been
Starting point is 00:46:49 a disaster for the Republican Party. And he got sort of led down the road, signed on to that, and now he's semi-repudiated that. But that's like the one great scarlet letter in the Republican Party now is immigration. Everybody's all in on being a populist and being anti-more immigration. So that's his great sin, even though Donald Trump has 20 other quote-unquote sins of supporting Democrats in the past that we just shove off, because he calls people stupid and yells and screams, and that's wonderful. So I like Rubio, but I mean, at this point, I think it's too late, unfortunately. And so we're going to nominate Trump,
Starting point is 00:47:31 who's going to literally lose 35 states. It's going to be a landslide, and the party's going to be a disaster. And all these people are angry at the quote-unquote Republican establishment, which is understandable. If you want a primary Mitch McConnell, I would give you money. I'd support it. You want to challenge all the entrenched Washington elite? Absolutely. But the answer to challenging the Washington elite is not to nominate Donald Trump, lose an election resoundingly, and then think, well, now the elites are going to become even more conservative, because they're not. Now they're going to say, look, we ran your boy Trump, and he got his ass handed to him. So now we're going to become even more liberal. So that's going to fracture the Republican Party, which will be out in the wilderness for a decade or more now.
Starting point is 00:48:12 It sounds bleak. It's terribly bleak. The country is a mess. The world is a mess. You know, when you have this week when the United States Navy, the most powerful military in the history of mankind, and our sailors are treated like hostages by this third-rate nation, American sailors on their knees, blindfolded and held overnight, and our leaders say, thank you, Iran, for being so wonderful. Thank you. May I have another? That's the vision of the future because that's what we're going to end up with. We're going to have four or eight more years of that. But the Republican Party liked Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:48:47 because he calls people stupid and you're ugly and you're stupid. That's wonderful. That's our wonderful vision to put forward for the country. It's embarrassing. Are you disappointed in Chris Christie that he never got it together? You never thought he would change? No, because I don't love Chris Christie. I like Rubio.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Rubio was my guy. I had some hopes early on for Scott Walker, who's the governor of Wisconsin, who I also like, but he was too milquetoast. And the problem for all these guys is that basically Obama has cleaned the Republicans' clocks for years, even though the Republicans have made amazing gains in midterm elections and what have you, but they haven't done anything legislatively. They haven't challenged him. They haven't fought back enough. So the base is extremely angry. And what they want is like raw red meat. They want blood basically. And these guys that are trying to be like competent and positive and knowledgeable on things that that doesn't count anymore. All you have to do, you need to be screaming and ranting and like foaming at the mouth like Trump. And that's like you're
Starting point is 00:49:42 fighting back against political correctness. So when you see the Democrats, which they aren't doing that as much, but it seems like Hillary's going to take it, right? Is there any Bernie Sanders chance or not? I don't know. Hillary is – it's funny. I was out with some buddies the other night. We were watching the college football national championship game. And I was lamenting this Trump – I was doing this trump brand lamenting the state of the republican party and he's a he's a liberal democrat he's let not really down with hillary but he doesn't think that
Starting point is 00:50:13 bernie can win yeah and i mean there's really no enthusiasm for hillary clinton in the democratic party doesn't seem like the real enthusiasm the democratic party now which is essentially a you know it's all ivy league egghead essentially socialists, old hippies that are, you know, that they've taken over the party. They love Bernie Sanders. They love 90 percent confiscatory tax rates. That's the greatest. And, you know, redistributing the wealth. They can't wait for that.
Starting point is 00:50:40 But they don't think that Bernie can win. I mean, their heart is really with Elizabeth Warren, who hasn't run. Yeah. But they don't think that Bernie can win. I mean, their heart is really with Elizabeth Warren, who hasn't run. But all these polls, Hillary should be, like, wiping the floor with Bernie, who isn't even really sort of only running half-assed and gets, like, enormous crowds. And he's had enormous fundraising. Because the Democratic Party, their heart is with him. They don't love Hillary. And the same thing that happened when Obama beat her in 2008. Their heart was with him.
Starting point is 00:51:03 And, you know, he was a much more viable candidate than Bernie. But what's going to happen to her if she's not careful? If she loses Iowa and she loses New Hampshire, the party's going to get together, and they're going to say, we can't run her. She can't win. And they know Bernie is not really a true presidential candidate. So what could happen is, I mean, the party could get together and have Joe Biden parachute in with Elizabeth Warren as his running mate,
Starting point is 00:51:24 and they'd wipe the floor with her. That'd be the end of Hillary. They'd have to drag her out kicking and screaming, but I don't think she could get the nomination in that circumstance. So I think she's in some trouble. What are the Joe Biden odds? It's all the more agonizing for the Republicans to be fooling around with Trump when it's a totally winnable election. I wonder what odds are out there on Joe Biden right now. I mean, he gave some interviews the other day, which was surprising, right before the State of the Union.
Starting point is 00:51:50 And they said, you know, the reporter said to him, it was actually a Connecticut reporter. It was here, a local Connecticut interview. She said, do you regret not running? And he's like, every single day. Wow. That's a pretty strong statement, obviously. You know this stuff more than I do. Has there ever been a weirder political election year than 2016?
Starting point is 00:52:12 What's topped it? Well, this one is pretty crazy because if you told me a year ago that Donald Trump was going to be the overwhelming favorite to be the Republican nominee, I'd have said, what are you smoking? It's ridiculous. A year ago? It was like three months ago we were laughing about it. Exactly. It was like a joke. I mean, there's been other odd years, certainly.
Starting point is 00:52:30 I mean, in a lot of ways, this is like 1968, because LBJ was sort of, was not sort of, he was completely embroiled by Vietnam. Yeah. The Democratic Party was wildly against that. Everybody thought that he would cruise to the nomination, and he suddenly announces that he's not going to run. Eugene McCarthy, who was an anti-war senator from New Hampshire, I think he was from South Dakota, wins New Hampshire, or almost wins New Hampshire. And he caught fire, and the Democrats said he can't possibly win. And that's when Bobby Kennedy got involved, and Hubert Humphrey ultimately the nominee because Bobby Kennedy got assassinated. But in terms of like strange things and surprising things and people getting
Starting point is 00:53:08 in at the last minute, it sort of resembles that. I've known you for a long time. This is the most upset I've ever heard you about anything. I mean, I've seen you upset, like especially at like two in the morning in college when somebody wouldn't let us into a party or somebody ran out of a keg or you've definitely flown off the handle or like a late night pinochle game
Starting point is 00:53:28 where somebody made a comment. You're like, you've definitely, I've seen you throw some tantrums. This is the most upset I've ever heard you. Well, because this is literally the future of the country is at stake. I mean, it literally, I mean, Donald Trump's ascendancy, and it may already be too late, is it really, it has the potential to destroy the Republican Party, as we know it. I mean, these Tea Party people may just go and form a third party, and then you're just going to have Democratic rule for as far as the eye can see.
Starting point is 00:53:56 And the country can't take any more of that in terms of the taxing and the spending. We have $19 trillion in debt. We're only going to add to that because Hillary is trying to out-Sanders Sanders. We're going to pay for everybody to go to college. We're going to pay for everything for everybody. Take everybody's money. We're going to pay for everything for everybody. It's unsustainable in a country with 300 million people.
Starting point is 00:54:16 It's totally unsustainable. So it's really – I have young kids. I have a soon-to-be 10-year-old and a 4-year-old. I'd like to leave some, have some country left for them that resembles some, one of the country that we grew up in. And I'm not, I'm not sure that that's going to be possible, frankly. When you're out with your friends and stuff on a Friday night,
Starting point is 00:54:34 do they just not even bring this stuff up with you anymore? You're so upset. They're just like, so how'd they, how'd the Yankees look in there, Jacko? See any movies? I have, I have, you know, most of my friends are of mixed politics, so I never really talk about politics with friends anyway, but yeah, when it's brought up and something about Trump and
Starting point is 00:54:53 just like start quietly shaking my head and looking down at my shoes and they just know to move on. Yeah. I don't know what to say, Johnny. Nah, there's nothing you can do. This Trump thing is the most flabbergasting thing I think that's happened since I've been alive. I just don't understand it. It's unbelievable to me.
Starting point is 00:55:12 It's really incredible. I mean, I posted a thing on Twitter yesterday of some rally of his the other day, and they had these young kids. You know, I'm not going to kill the young kids that are, you know, put up to this by their parents or whatever, but these young girls in, like, red, white, and blue leotards, and they sing this song to Trump. That was, like, straight out of a Kim Jong-il songbook. And this thing, like, it starts off with these kids saying, cowardice, not amongst us or something. And I was just like, oh, my God, what country is this? And people at these rallies, like, it's like a religious revival.
Starting point is 00:55:49 These people are orgasmic at a freaking Trump rally. It's unbelievable. And he says things that are just so stupid. I mean, I'm just sitting there going, he is so fucking stupid. You know, I mean, Jesus Christ, he's so fucking stupid. You know, I mean, Jesus Christ, he's so fucking stupid. How can you be like waving your flags and singing anthems to him?
Starting point is 00:56:10 It's mind boggling. If Mike and the Mad Dog were still together, Mad Dog would be like, I mean, Mike, he was 10 years ago, he was telling Omarosa that you're fired and now he's going to be the president. Exactly. It's just frightening.
Starting point is 00:56:26 It is a humongous, humongous mistake by the United States of America. Yeah, it's quite a pickle. Well, all right, Chad. At least the Yankees have the greatest bullpen in the history of baseball, so that's good for me. Yeah, you reconciled that Chapman thing. Well, I would afford his off-the-field
Starting point is 00:56:49 issues, but, you know, everybody runs into problems now and again, and hopefully those kids will work it out, and whatever his punishment is, we'll take that and we'll move on. Who's the closer? He is. I was surprised. Girardi came out the other day and said going into spring training
Starting point is 00:57:05 chapman's the closer i was shocked by that i figured they'd go with miller but then he said they said well chapman's been a closer and he's never been a setup guy and miller and batances have both been setup guys so they're used to that role so that really is on paper probably the greatest bullpen anyone's ever had it really is like. It's an amazing bullpen. The Yankees had good ones in the past, like in 96 when they had Romero Mendoza as a set-up guy when he was effective, and Mariano and Wetland, but I mean... Not three guys.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Three guys. Miller had whatever many saves he had last year. It was one of the top closers in the AL. Patances was phenomenal. He had like a.91 ERA. He throws like 100, and Chapman throws over 100. I mean, the Yankees have a lead in the sixth inning, Tancis was phenomenal. He had like a.91 ERA. He throws like 100, and Chapman throws over 100. I mean, the Yankees have a lead in the sixth inning. The game's over.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Well, at least you got that to look forward to as the country's falling apart. It's like the Roman Empire when there was like, you know, bread and circuses. They gave everybody bread and had circuses for entertainment. Nobody noticed that the Roman Empire was collapsing around them. So I'll just entertain myself with the Yankees bullpen while the country collapses around me.
Starting point is 00:58:08 All right. You can check him out at Jacko2323 on Twitter. He melts down every once in a while. I'm sorry this is happening to you, but I look forward to continue to have you on over the course of the campaign. Phenomenal. Talk to you soon, buddy. Can't wait. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 00:58:24 All right. Last but not least, we're gonna call my dad really quickly because he's freaking out about the Patriots. Am I on the podcast right now? Yes. Oh. Are you awake? Are you taking a mid-afternoon nap?
Starting point is 00:58:40 Well, I am older. I'm really nervous. Yeah, I figured. I was just checking in really quick. Tumultuous week for the Patriots. Well, maybe the weirdest week ever. Except for the
Starting point is 00:58:55 Hernandez being accused of murdering 20 people. Yeah, that was probably weirder. Yeah, that might have been weirder. What about Irving Fryer's wife stabbing him with a knife in his hand, knocking him out of whatever game that was? That was pretty weird. I forgot that one, but this one was pretty weird.
Starting point is 00:59:12 And then when you thought it couldn't get weirder, you start reading yesterday that Gronk, the most invaluable player besides Brady, is in the hospital getting some kind of injection, probably cortisone. And then last night they released the second injury report and the back that he's already had operated on twice is a problem. I mean, really? All this is going on now? I'm still taking the Pats. I'm still taking the Pats, but it's been, you and I have talked, but you know, if I
Starting point is 00:59:48 know a lot of teams have had injuries, you know, you look at Pittsburgh and other teams as well. I don't know that any team has had as many injuries as we have had. And it's been a really crazy season. You just look back at the team we had in the beginning when Lewis was running, and we had the big back and the small back, and just not the same team. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:13 So you don't like a minus five? I think we can win this game. I'm not sure what happens after that. I mean, every game we have, it seems like somebody else gets injured, so you worry about that, even if everybody suits up on Saturday. I certainly was a lot more optimistic around Week 9. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I'm looking back fondly at Week 9. But our defense is really good, and that's what I'm holding out hope for with the Chiefs. What is the reaction? The reason I was calling was, like in Boston right now, all this stuff's going on. Belichick has a weird black eye that he won't talk about. What are people talking about there?
Starting point is 01:00:53 Well, if you listen to talk radio, which occasionally I do, there's all kinds of conspiracy theories. And the funniest one I heard was yesterday, late yesterday afternoon that Belichick went to break up a fight between Gronkowski and Chandler Jones who Chandler being out of his mind at the moment and that punched as he tried to separate them and And Gronk heard his back. Belichick got the black guy and Chandler Jones ended up in the hospital.
Starting point is 01:01:31 That's a good one. That ties in all of them. Yeah, that ties in all three things. It ties in all three things. And there's a possibility if you think about it, but of course, not really. But it's funny to think about, but not really funny. I don't know. A lot of conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 01:01:49 The black guy on Belichick, of course, that he won't talk about, wins all kinds of storytelling for people when you combine that with what happened with the unbelievable morning for Chandler Jones. Well, if the Pats lose this game, knowing how the city of Boston goes with stuff like this, it's going to be a long next couple weeks for Chandler Jones, Belichick, all those people. I think there's going to be a lot of saltiness. You know, I won't be shocked if Chandler Jones doesn't go out there and have an unbelievable game. Maybe whatever he took on Saturday night, maybe he should take just a smaller amount. No, come on. I agree with you, though.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I really like Chandler. I was bummed out that it was him because he was one of my favorite Patriots they miked him up for a couple games this year and he just seemed like he had one of the best
Starting point is 01:02:51 personalities on the team great teammate I loved the way he played like he had an awesome season yeah me too all of that it was really exciting not a typical guy
Starting point is 01:03:00 that we have like just this athletic pass rusher that every other team usually has and the Patriots never have right yeah I athletic pass rusher that every other team usually has and the Patriots never have. That was bumming. I think he's a restricted or might be a restricted free agent this year or has one more year.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Well, I think his price is down. Yeah, his price is down. So maybe he'll have a great game to show people that he didn't want to be a negative influence on the biggest game so far in the year. And maybe he'll take a hometown discount to re-up. What is that? You're Saturday, 4.30 p.m. Are you going to be alone? Who's watching? What's happening? That's a good question. I'm encouraging
Starting point is 01:03:45 my stepmother your stepmother my wife Molly to go shopping have her nails done come back we have a family dinner at one of our favorite restaurants Toscano
Starting point is 01:04:01 being run by my brother Don at 8.15 Saturday night. So overtime is bad. Can I just spell this out for you? It doesn't matter to me. I'll come for dessert. They can all meet at 8.15 and hopefully I'll still be alone watching TV with my trusted golden retriever. But I don't want overtime.
Starting point is 01:04:29 I don't think my heart can take overtime. I want a 27-14 victory, and I want to see Macklin doesn't play or he goes out there and he's limping so badly he doesn't have an impact because they don't have much else besides Macklin when you look at their tight end is good but um I don't like your plan I don't like your Saturday plan but having uh having spent a lot of time in that house uh and even written about it and I might have even done a cartoon about it at some point. Your wife has the ability to if you send her out, she's going to come home
Starting point is 01:05:08 with like six minutes left in the game during some crucial moment. I'm going to try to point out that when she goes out she can be out long enough that then she can, wherever she goes she can go directly to dinner at the restaurant and never come back home. Yeah, I don't see that.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Her history says she's going to be back with five minutes and there's going to be some question that popped up that she had to ask you, and it'll be right there in your third down. Yeah, that's a possibility. I could shut the door. Yeah, but then you have bad blood for next week. You don't want to do that either.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Well, it's not that, but like everyone else, I have a superstitious way of watching the game. I sit in a certain spot, the doors open a certain way. You know, you do the same thing. You're a little worse than I am. Maybe. You had your brother was visiting week 17, and you let him watch the game with you,
Starting point is 01:06:01 but only if he didn't talk unless it was a timeout, which I thought was an interesting move. Yeah, we set ground rules before the game with you, but only if he didn't talk unless it was a timeout, which I thought was an interesting move. Yeah, we set ground rules before the game started. And he did very well with the ground rules. A couple of times he started to say something, and I said, Greg, Greg. And he remembered the ground rule, and he waited until the commercial.
Starting point is 01:06:19 But I'm sure there's people across the state of Massachusetts who have similar ground rules. Well, I think the move, if your dinner's at 8.15, the move is to send your wife out for drinks at like 7. Like to get a pre-dinner drink with somebody. Oh, maybe at halftime. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Try to hook her up with somebody who doesn't care about the game for a little pre-dinner drink. And then you're off the hook.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Actually, that's a better idea because yeah I will can I tell her that you suggested this idea? No don't tell her she won't listen to the podcast so she won't know unless somebody brings it up on one of your dog walks or something but yeah I think that's the move
Starting point is 01:07:01 that sounds like the move because like you said i can see her coming in with five minutes to go a tie game we have the ball on the 40 yard line and she wants to know how's the game going or what am i wearing to dinner something like that we had some classics where your your old house where you could see the lights and the driveway would come in and it would always be like the eighth inning two out spaces loaded pedro trying to get out of a jam that the lights would start hitting the thing like oh and the window that faced the driveway was next to where the tv was so it was like oh well the good news is that my wife does all that same stuff, too.
Starting point is 01:07:46 So I think it's hereditary, even though we're not related. Maybe your wife likes football a little bit. As you know, your stepmom doesn't really like football. Yeah, my wife doesn't really care either. Her sport is basketball, fortunately. That helps. Unfortunately, with the Celtics falling apart. We're going to the Phoenix Suns game tonight.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Oh, that'll be a good one. Should be a good one. That could be a win. It's maybe the last game Keith Morris is going to play, from what I'm reading. Oh, he's getting traded? There's lots of rumors about him being traded. I'd take him in a heartbeat, but... I would too.
Starting point is 01:08:21 You know, wouldn't you? Package a couple of guys? we need to package a couple guys need to change the Celtics team somehow I'm not sure how but it's a bunch of we have too many similar pieces
Starting point is 01:08:31 at each position yeah it's it's like watching a movie where there's a bunch of guys I've heard of it's like an action movie there's a bunch of guys
Starting point is 01:08:39 I've heard of but there's not the lead guy and it's it's fine it's like an ensemble movie. It's a cable movie. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:08:46 But you wouldn't pay to see it in the theater. That's the Celtics this season. Well, they're not going to get a lead guy out of any trades. Well, there's certainly no rumors going around about a lead guy. But I think Morris, he's just an example of somebody, if we traded two for one. Yeah, we need to make it three for one. It would help with the log jam we have at forward. Every time Brooklyn wins a part of you, a little piece of you dies, right?
Starting point is 01:09:14 Can you believe, I mean, we lost to the Knicks on Wednesday night, I guess. Yeah. And then I saw that the Knicks played Brooklyn the next night. But, of course, I forgot that Carmelo got injured in our game. And he didn't play against the Nets. And I look at the box score and I cringed. They have a couple of teams with 12 wins. I know.
Starting point is 01:09:37 I thought when Jared Jack got hurt and then they fired the coach, I was expecting like a 30 loss tailspin for them. And yet somehow... I read on Hoops Hype today that, I didn't realize this, but three Nets players were quoted as talking about how hard it was to play for Hollands
Starting point is 01:09:56 and how much they feel relieved to be playing with some freedom with this new coach. I wish they hadn't fired Hollands. I didn't know that was going on. that's not good. I wish they hadn't fired Highlands. I didn't know that was going on. That's not good. My fear for them is that they're going to do some trade where they trade Joe Johnson's expiring contract
Starting point is 01:10:15 and get real players back with longer contracts because what do they care? They're screwed for the next three years anyway. Right. So if they traded Joe Johnson to New Orleans for Tyreek Evans and Eric Gordon, they just got both of them back. And Tyreek's contract
Starting point is 01:10:32 goes a year after this one. Eric Gordon's expiring. But for New Orleans, they're getting rid of the Tyreek contract. I'm not saying New Orleans would do that, but a type of trade like that where they're getting two bodies back but longer contracts and they'll be slightly better this year, that's our worst case scenario please don't make that trade brooklyn i think it's more apt that he either he'll be traded to a contender or they're just going to buy him out
Starting point is 01:10:55 um if if i was running the nets i would trade the joe johnson pick for players like i i would be calling houston trying to get dwight Howard and Ty Lawson for Joe Johnson. Like just basically throw them a whole bailout for their whole luxury tax situation. Everything. Houston's not going to win the title this year. I'd be making all of those calls trying to,
Starting point is 01:11:17 I try to get Marquis Morris. Well, maybe they are making those calls. Like conceivably they could get Tyson Chandler and Markeith Morris from Phoenix for Joe Johnson's expiring and basically give Phoenix a reset button. Right. That's what I'm worried about, the Nets. Or we could do the same thing with David Lee's contract. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:41 I mean, we're in a similar similar position he's a much more I mean I thought I thought he'd be more helpful to us this year he I've watched him pretty carefully he
Starting point is 01:11:53 he's on the downside he doesn't have the leap in his legs that he used to have so he's you probably have noticed he's getting these short shots
Starting point is 01:12:02 blocked yeah he's below the rim now. I like him. He's a great team guy. If you watch him on the bench, he's terrific. And he can't guard anybody. Too bad. This is point of season.
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