The Bill Simmons Podcast - Ep. 51: NFL Conference Championship Lines w/ Cousin Sal
Episode Date: January 18, 2016HBO's Bill Simmons talks to Cousin Sal about the crazy Cards-GB game, Peyton Manning (5:40), Car-Sea (17:15), L.A. football (29:25), hanging with Tony Romo (31:40), Andy Reid's new TV show (37:37), Ro...und 3 lines (42:22) and a Royal Rumble preview with a surprise guest (51:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Actually, let's start the podcast.
God, we called that Pittsburgh game.
We had such a great weekend.
Yeah.
We did such a good job.
We nailed everything.
And then, I don't know what happened.
Pittsburgh's over midfield twice with a one-point lead.
They're on the 30.
They go backwards.
It's third and 30 all of a sudden.
Right.
The rarely seen offensive lineman face mask.
Mm-hmm.
Punt the ball.
Not sure why they didn't go for a field goal.
It was like a 52-yarder.
Earlier, yeah, yeah, right.
Get the ball back.
Driving again.
Mm-hmm.
The seven-string running back fumbles.
I don't blame him.
Denver goes down.
Manning finally puts
together a good drive up five two point get the two point for the push credible then they take
the lead then the steelers come back do the madden thing get the field goal we end up pushing
that was bizarre it was a bizarre weekend i tweeted i was both infuriated and delighted to
be one one and one on sports center but so yeah what'd you lose you lost the cards well that I tweeted that I was both infuriated and delighted to be 1-1-1 on SportsCenter.
Oh, yeah, what'd you lose?
You lost the cards?
Well, that Arizona thing.
But here's the thing.
If you had Denver, which I had on SportsCenter, even though we bet Pittsburgh,
you were lucky to push.
I mean, you were unlucky, and then you were lucky.
If you had Arizona, you were lucky to be in a position to push, then you were so so unlucky with that hail mary just unbelievable i mean second and 20
at your four you're more likely to lose by nine than you are to drive the field and score a
touchdown right it's one of the five worst gambling losses of all time right if you had arizona minus
seven although it would have been a push.
So I guess that's not one of the worst.
Still money lost on that crazy play.
Fourth and 20.
They ran the same exact play the Pats ran
in the Super Bowl 42, only it was to the left.
But the design rollout where the guy has a chance
to play on his feet and actually chuck it.
And Jeff Janis.
Yeah.
Who the hell is that? Seventh round rounder 101 yards and two passes in the
same drive incredible i gotta say though i didn't feel like either play was like quote unquote lucky
it wasn't just like a heave i hope this guy catch it no i know like rogers really he throws it to
that exact spot on the goal line and the guys know to run to that spot and jump up and catch it. There's real
skill involved. I've seen
many angles on it and it really is
more than luck and it's to the point where
now on a Hail Mary situation,
just like you don't want to kick off to lock it on
Seattle, you don't want to throw
Sherman's way or what used to be
Revis's way, you should rush
zero against Rodgers in a Hail Mary
situation. Zero. Zero.
He's going to elude it anyway.
He's going to have just enough time to get it to where he wants.
Just put your best athletes right there at the five-yard line or in the end zone.
It did seem to solve the age-old dilemma of why don't they just blitz on Hail Mary.
Right. Well, actually, you don't blitz because the guy might get away, and then he gets to throw,
and he has a one-in-two chance.
I'm always amazed.
You would think there would be a guy like on the five.
There's got to be a better way to defend Hail Marys.
Put a guy like on the three, put another guy to his left and right,
then put three more guys on the goal line and then three more guys.
You basically have nine guys all within five yards of each other.
I don't know how you would yeah it probably sounds easier than to explain to just play zone on a hell
mary because you you do want to cover your guy you should be it should be enough that you just
cover your guy but she cover a space oh for crying out loud we were shocked we watched that that was
the first game we watched together all year right oh yeah you're right yeah no we might have saw like a thursday
night i don't know but yeah we were um we missed because we had the sound off apparently michaels
and collinsworth were out of their mind good in that game they were they had a great year
and the distance between them and the other teams really advanced this year i think more than any
other year but apparently they were lights out. And Michaels, yet again, Michaels,
yet another famous game that he gets to call.
It was really, that'll be,
we'll always remember that as the two Hail Mary game.
Right, right.
And I don't know if that'll translate to the cards
this next round or not.
Palmer was pretty shaky.
Yeah.
I wasn't impressed with,
like who was the least impressive winner this weekend?
Like, I wasn't impressed really with any of the four.
Like, did anyone blow you away?
Like, Carolina had the potential, and then they just fell apart in the second half.
They've done that a few times this year.
Yeah.
It seems like they take their foot off the pedal, which would be a bad.
I thought Denver was the least impressive.
Denver was the least impressive denver was least impressive
i'm gonna say this i'm gonna say this to america yeah arizona second just because palmer you you
reminded the fact that the guy just hasn't been in big games and i think there's a huge difference
between you know week 13 or a sunday night or whatever but then actually like do or die
just different speed, different intensity.
I don't know.
I'm going to say this to America.
I know it would be fun to root against the Pats,
deflate gate.
I hate Belichick.
I hate Brady.
Good luck in Super Bowl 50 if it's Denver and Carolina because that game will be over in about five minutes.
Oh, you think so?
Denver's offense against Carolina?
Right.
Do they score 10 points? I wouldn't have thought. so. Denver's offense against Carolina? Right.
Do they score 10 points?
I wouldn't have thought so, no.
They're going to get demolished.
I think the NFC is better than the AFC.
The Pats have a chance just because of their offense.
I think they can hang in. But from what we've seen at Denver this year,
I don't think they could get to,
I don't think they get 17 points against Carolina.
It would have to be like a 10- 9 type game for them to have a chance.
We spoke on the phone yesterday and I took Denver in the beginning of the week.
But then you see, all right, Antonio Brown's up playing.
Then you just really think about it.
When we spoke on the phone.
Yeah, we had a good conversation.
They had to crack 20 points to cover seven.
They only had two double figure wins all year.
Yeah.
I was never sold on Roethlisberger being that hurt.
Right.
And then it's just that word was kind of out in the street
that he was okay, and he had good practice on Friday.
Then you saw him throw the ball.
He looked good.
Well, here's what drives me nuts.
First play of the game, he heaves it 50 yards downfield.
It was incomplete.
We didn't see that again.
Take another shot like that.
Yeah. I know the defense is tough and everything, but I think they needed one of those, obviously. downfield it was incomplete we didn't see that again like take another shot like that yeah i
know the defense is tough and everything but i think they needed one of those obviously and what
a weird game didn't you feel like they controlled that whole game could have put it away three times
yeah i really did and you know denver's offense manning's just he's throwing outs or he's throwing
short passes yeah and they were they were creeping up the whole game they were basically daring him to do anything over the top deep middle and he just he won't
throw it because he knows he can't in their run game they're just trying to get the run game
trying to get the run game trying to get the run game could never really get it going and the
steelers it was just sitting there for them for three quarters. Yeah. And their special teams were terrible.
Their punter really hurt them in the first half.
Yeah.
I don't know why they didn't go for a couple of those field goals in high altitude.
I don't know what they were doing there either.
I know there was a question of the wind
and which time you take the wind and which you don't.
And then their punt returner was a disaster.
That was really like all the little things cost them that game.
And then I thought Tomlin just did some weird stuff in that game.
Who were you rooting for towards the end?
It was so funny.
My dad and I were texting the entire game with no idea who we were rooting for.
Yeah.
It was like, I don't know.
Denver seems super beatable.
Right.
You obviously want to play home against Pittsburgh.
You want a home game that to close
out the right but then we're but then we're saying like yeah all right if we get pittsburgh browns
back next week and this team's scary and it seems like pittsburgh's better than denver right and i
don't think it pits matters to pittsburgh where they play right whereas like the pats even though
i think they're better than denver they you know there's there's been a little tortured history in
denver for the pats sure but that's that's a real thing tony's in a little tortured history in Denver for the Pats. Sure.
That's a real thing.
Tony's in the safety.
Rulon Jones, the year after we made the Super Bowl.
The Jake Plummer, Champ Bailey game.
Probably Brady's worst playoff game.
I think 05.
That was the Saturday night game.
After the third Super Bowl.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Driving to go ahead.
Pick six.
Terrible pass.
Pick six.
Really got knocked out of bounds. Should have been a fumble. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Driving to go ahead. Pick six. Terrible pass. Pick six. I remember that.
Really got knocked out of bounds.
Should have been a fumble.
Yeah.
And then they lost two years ago there.
I would say the two places that Brady has not been lights out are Denver and Miami.
And every Pats fan secretly worried about those two locations, I would say.
Really?
Yeah, a little bit.
Can you remember a time, going back to the Denver-Pittsburgh game,
where a player, I mean, it's too hard for you to,
because you're so biased, you're rooting against Denver anyway.
Well, when Peyton Manning gave himself up,
and he for sure gave himself up.
It was incredible.
He did a slide.
And through the best pass he had all game,
I felt like the country turned on him.
I haven't felt like a country turned on a player
for something that didn't involve a cheap hit
or domestic violence since that play.
They're like, oh my God, screw this guy.
He turtled and dived.
Yeah.
And so here's the thing.
This is why this was...
I mean, the calls were terrible in that game.
And a couple went against Denver.
But for the most part, for whatever reason, Pittsburgh got boned.
I thought Tlaib had like three pass interferences.
And again, it's like, I'm not biased.
I didn't know who to root for in this game.
So it's not like I was like, oh, come on, Pittsburgh.
Like, just I couldn't believe Tlaib didn't get called for a couple of those.
You're rooting against Nance and Sims.
That's what you're rooting against.
I was.
You're rooting against their—that's number one for you.
Well, here's the thing.
If you're announcing a manning game, at least have the conversation of,
hey, Phil, what can he can't do?
What can and can't do at this point?
Right.
What throws can't he make?
Like, Phil Sims, you're a quarterback.
Like, tell us.
Yeah.
Like, this is a guy who can only run certain
pass plays at the point of his career they're like oh no they're in all these drops it's like
brady had six drops in the saturday game the announcers didn't talk about it for an hour
yeah uh but they they were bored with that game they really were bored you can tell coming back
to the fourth quarter now it's like okay so we return now to the fourth quarter and it's uh 13 12 whatever it
was 12 9 you know i think they were checked out a little bit well we have them next week and then
for the super bowl somehow this season was arranged where they announced three of the last four playoff
games thank you they'll get the last one too they'll They'll do four. But that dive play, though. So let's say he does that dive and he's down.
And then let's say Shazier comes flying in and hits him.
Oh, he gets called.
15-yard penalty, right?
What if he runs over and touches him?
I think it's okay, then. It's okay.
Yeah.
So they're saying he didn't give himself up.
So that means Shazier could have come in and tackled him.
Yeah, I guess so.
They would have called a penalty on anything he did on that play.
Just about.
And he was a fingertip away from being down by contact, too.
Right.
So close.
But he slid.
It was a slide.
It's over.
That play's done.
That was a huge play.
Very big.
Because that also would have been a 10-yard sack.
And it's like any second in anything more than 10 in that game, they're done.
The other thing, Perfect, it's funny how guys from teams that aren't in the game can affect
the game.
If they have Brown in that game, I think they win by seven to 10.
I think so.
Because Brian dropped a couple across-the-middle plays
that Brown catches easily.
The punt returns are much different.
That really did swing that game.
I don't think Denver can score more than 20.
That was it.
I don't know.
I have a weird feeling about Denver if they make the Super Bowl.
I really think they're the fifth or sixth best team.
Normally, I think the Super Bowl comes down to like,
all right, maybe two of the top three or four are in there.
But this year, if Denver makes it, like, eh, Pittsburgh was better.
Forget even about Le'Veon Bell.
Pittsburgh was definitely better, yeah.
D'Angelo Williams in there probably puts them over the top, you know?
Yeah.
The Pats have a better team doesn't mean they're going to win.
Because the one thing about this Denver season, and it happened again, they hang around.
They hang around.
They look terrible.
They take either their own crowd out of it or the other team's crowd because it's so ugly.
Their defense keeps them in it.
And then something funky happens and they keep getting big plays in the fourth quarter.
Now, is that a skill or is that just luck week after week?
I don't know.
I don't know either.
I don't know.
That play in the fumble was a great play.
The guy punched it out.
They got to hand it to him.
Chris Harris being hurt is a bad thing for them, though.
He basically said, I'm hurt.
I'm not going to be the same the rest of the playoffs.
But don't you feel Belichick just has to put together a game plan where they score 21 points?
So here's the thing with the Pats.
House and I went through this on Friday. they're gonna get to 27 yeah every week if they have their offense they're getting to 27 points
so that means denver has to score 28 right i don't think denver can score 28 unless weird stuff
happens you need to get the pick six you get the return touchdown you like stuff like that has to
happen now you had a non-existent running game against the Chiefs,
but it was okay.
It was all right.
It doesn't matter.
The only running play you need,
it must be nice to count on that you only need one yard
from your running game,
and it's from Brady on the goal line.
Right.
That's it.
Otherwise, you need nobody to fumble,
and the five plays you're going to hand off or whatever it is.
I was wondering why they played it that way.
And I actually think it's because the offensive line has had so much turmoil and change and all that stuff.
I think they just went in that game and they're like, guys, just block.
Just pass block.
That's it.
Don't worry about run blocks.
You're going to pass block every play.
And that was a classic Brady game.
He just ran the show. And it was, you know, Casey kept hanging around
because they kept making these stupid plays.
Right when you thought the Pats were, that was it.
Pats were going to cut their head off.
Smith gets like, you know, the play where he could have gotten sacked.
He's running around.
Avant made a couple insane catches.
If they played that game 10 times,
don't you think the Pats win by double figures in at least eight?
I think so. I think so. Does Casey win in any scenario times, don't you think the Pats win by double figures in at least eight? I think so.
I think so.
Does Casey win in any scenario?
I don't know.
Let's not forget.
Smith, he overthrew Kelsey in the end zone twice.
He did.
You know, there are a couple weird things.
So you felt like that was the right—you think the Pats were seven points better?
I thought going to New England, something like that that chiefs have a chance
to get blown out here you know and they didn't i like that they hung around no houston dean
atzers didn't even talk about that oh right yeah yeah he played i think less than 10 snaps almost
nothing yeah which was which was bad for them and it's a shame i'm seeing on twitter now amandola
suspended uh this week in the first four weeks of next year for the cheating hit.
That was terrible.
I'm not going to defend that.
I actually thought.
I'm kidding, by the way.
He is not suspended.
If he had been thrown out of the game, I wouldn't have been shocked.
Really?
That was really bad.
He could have knocked that guy out.
That's exactly the kind of play they're trying not to have anymore. Coach Belichick said it was legal.
I didn't like it. So that was the first time in 11 years
that all four home teams won in round two.
The week before, all four road won.
That was a bizarre week, yeah.
There were so many signs for a Pittsburgh upset.
I was tweeting a couple of them yesterday.
There's always the weird game in round two,
and Roethlisberger, how do we know he's that hurt?
And should Antonio Brown really swing a game? out he kind of did swing again yeah and Denver's kicker was lights
out that was the other thing that happened I mean he's five for five and Mattis is their MVP I think
yeah five for five with two bombs so solid so solid so um Seattle Carolina, incredible tease cover for us.
Ridiculous.
Down 31-0 at half.
And I don't love teases.
We're getting eight and a half.
Yeah, I don't love teases, but for me, I'll do a tease if I feel like I have a 100% chance
on winning one of the two games.
And the Pats, I was like, they're winning.
We're not losing to KC.
So I was like, all right, I'm going to take the six points and put it on a game.
It's like, oh, Seattle.
Nice.
And both of us like this.
This is great.
This will be close.
We're like, I don't know, Carolina, Seattle.
Three-point game.
Everything.
Yeah, we'll get eight and a half, nine.
It'll be kept close.
Come down to the last drive.
And it didn't exactly work out like that.
Actually, all eight teams covered on a teaser this weekend.
All eight teams.
Really?
And almost every under.
Was that the case last weekend, too, or was there a blowout?
No, the Texans got killed.
Oh, that's right, Texans.
So you and I talked on Sunday morning, and I was saying to you,
the only thing that worries me about Seattle is this is year four for them in the playoffs.
They've played at least two games every year.
I think they've played 10 games overall.
They haven't had one of those everything goes wrong games yet.
Right.
And then that first half happens, and that was the all-time
every single thing goes wrong game.
I can't believe it.
They just got pushed around.
Wilson didn't have a chance.
The interception on Keekly, he couldn't even see over his line.
Everyone was getting pushed in his face immediately.
Still a bad pass, though.
Bad pass.
Wilson, I tweeted yesterday that it was basically he had like a Russell Westbrook game.
He was like 11 for 30 from the field.
He had 12 assists, 10 rebounds, 8 turnovers.
He was all over the map in that game.
But still was able to keep them around.
But he made some terrible plays.
He took some bad sacks.
Wasn't a great game.
Terrible game for Pete Carroll, I thought.
That's a good team.
It's a really good team.
Pete Carroll, where'd you stand on going for it on fourth and five down 31-0?
Instead of just kicking a field goal, getting three points.
Now I'm not even remembering that.
So what happened?
First half.
They didn't make it, right?
They didn't get it.
I was actually okay with going for it. Hoshka went for a long field goal. Oh, you're talking about before that. So what happened? First half. They didn't make it, right? They didn't get it. I was actually okay with going for it.
Hoshka went for a long field goal.
Oh, you're talking about before that.
They did that the second time.
Yeah, before that.
It was fourth and five.
Right.
And then.
I can't believe the Panthers didn't catch on on fourth and two.
I don't think they scored anyway, Seattle.
But when they faked the punt.
I know.
That was the all-time fake punt.
Late in the third quarter.
Way down.
You got to take a chance.
Right.
I was shocked when it was 31-13 to kick the PAT or go for two.
Couldn't believe they didn't go for two.
How do you not go for two?
You'd make a two-score game.
Yeah, because you're not going to score five times.
So hard.
In one half?
They needed five scores in the second half.
You can score five times in a half, but you got to get like a pick six or a special team's touchdown you can't get stopped twice but i so even if you don't get it you're down 18 instead
of 17 it's still three scores yeah but i would they have a little uh momentum would you have gone
for green bay would you have gone for two after the hail mary we never talked about this when we
watched the game interesting i didn't think about, but I was thinking about that extra point.
I was like, wow, what if this doesn't go for whatever reason?
We didn't talk about it when we watched it.
Yeah, I think maybe.
I mean, I don't know.
It's fine.
You have to figure you're going to get the ball maybe in overtime at some point.
And by the way, is it a coin toss or a coin flip?
If it's a coin toss, just it go whatever happened there that could have been
the biggest scandal oh my god they were asking for it in a year since deflacate
and uh but uh you go i mean arizona was stunned right that would be the time to go for two i guess
that was a good example of maybe momentum is overrated in football, which I've gone back and forth on.
The momentum, like you saw it in Pittsburgh-Denver.
That fumble, it felt there was a shift because Pittsburgh was going.
They were either going to be up four or they were going to be up eight.
Yeah.
And that was like a gut punch.
And that was the first time their defense let up
and actually gave up some plays, I felt like.
We didn't talk about Andy Reid's clock management.
Should he just start apologizing for his clock management before the game?
Did you hear his...
At a press conference.
Let's get this out of the way now.
I don't know what I'm doing with two minutes left or 240 left.
Did you hear his excuse?
What was the right thing to do?
I don't know.
What did he say?
What did he say?
He had a whole thing.
He was saying how...
No, no.
We practice that.
That's what we do.
We didn't want them to get the ball back.
So what we do is we run as much clock off as we can.
Oh, man.
Then we get a stop.
And then when we score again, there's no way for them to get the ball.
It's like, what?
Why don't you run the clock the second time after you've gotten the ball back?
That said, and there were some pinball passes that are
jaw-dropping brady the one the one that edelman ended up catching to kill the clock that's a
problem you can't kill the clock you have to throw short passes to kill the clock oh yeah that is
interesting so that one almost could have gotten the interception but it could have been a pick six that was the that was uh almost the worst moment yeah in in uh since the tyree catch yeah because there's a snare where
if that ball bounces sure five feet to the right and that guy's got a running start he's gone in
arizona same thing malcolm floyd's touchdown or what uh to go up four. Did that put them up four? Yeah. Just pinballed off two different players.
I can't tell if we can.
They just didn't think they needed the running game in that game.
Or if we can't run.
It might be the latter.
You should be able to run as much as Pittsburgh does.
Fitzgerald Toussaint is in heads and shoulders above.
But we don't have that guy it was like my dad and I were talking on Saturday night about the Chiefs have like
Niall Davis right yeah so their running back depth chart was Jamal Charles
Spencer Ware West who's her Kendrick West and Niall Davis yeah now Davis is a four-stringer
Niall Davis had a great year last year yeah replacing he's
he's started on fantasy teams he's competent like he looked good in that game as a kicker
turner he does stuff yeah every team's four stringer is better than any running back the
past time like we just throw out brandon bolden every year it's like here he is again we know he
can't run we've known this for five years we never have the now davis guy yeah and that's the kind of
guy it seems like in Denver, those little short,
shifty guys.
Right.
James White is not that guy.
Right.
Yeah.
You don't need much from them.
Maybe we'll see the Samoan guy
with all the vowels this time.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
What was that?
Joey Afalafa?
He hasn't been around
in like a month.
I'm sure Belichick
will have something.
Well, we have...
Oh.
Any fear of Carolina not being able to close?
Sure.
Does that come back to haunt them at some point?
We've got two playoff games left here.
Who are you happy with?
Like, Arizona, we think, looked poor.
The whole, like, Palmer threw some bad balls.
I didn't like the way...
Out of the four advancing teams,
they probably looked the third worst. But... Bad bad game or do we just not trust him now but they they scored on
two of their last three drives carolina didn't score the entire second half so who's got who's
got momentum here right so arizona terrible week 17 by week terrible for two and a half quarters
but then actually got their mojo back a little bit. And it's weird.
A terrible two and a half quarters.
Didn't they score on their opening drive?
Was it 7-0?
Or the second drive, maybe?
They're up 7-0.
It's weird.
I thought one or two of the home teams would come out flat.
And they didn't exactly come out flat.
Carolina for sure didn't.
Arizona scored on one of their first two drives.
Patriots scored on one of their first two drives.
And Denver went up 3-0.
They looked good early. They looked good early.
They looked decent early. They looked like they were
going to be able to run the ball. Strange week.
I don't know. I'm going to keep saying that.
I've watched Carolina a lot this year. I really
think they're good on D. And I think Newton's
great. He's just flat out great.
But their weapons are
awful. Like really
awful. I can't believe
why would you ever leave Greg Olsen uncovered, ever?
What else did they have?
It's a new NFL.
There was one time, they had one play when Olsen was out, and they just kind of showed
the people that were out there.
It was like...
Funchess and...
Yeah.
Ed Dixon.
Ed Dixon caught a big ball.
It was like, oh, I've got to watch out for Ed Dixon on this drive.
Caught a huge pass to extend that drive.
But he's doing something with nothing.
Yeah.
At some point, that's got to—
For sure.
They're going to have to play from behind at some point in the playoffs.
I thought he could take off more to help himself out.
When that game was getting close late, I was like, Cam needs to run for seven yards here.
He doesn't do it as much anymore.
He doesn't do it.
He won't do it as much anymore. He doesn't do it. He won't do it.
Yeah, him and Winston have this reputation as these scramblers.
Wilson's the one that I felt like could have done it the whole game.
Yeah.
Didn't you think?
Do you know the Patriots, out of everyone on the offense,
only one guy on the entire offense was drafted in the first round?
Is that right? Steven Jackson. Wow. They was drafted in the first round. Is that right?
Steven Jackson.
Wow.
They should give him the ball more.
See what he's got.
Give the kid a chance.
He looked.
I don't know if he looked off or we can't block, but not a lot of Steven Jackson moments in that game.
No, for sure.
Might be a plan B coming up for them.
What else did I have?
You know what?
You want to guess what the Super Bowl line is?
AFC, NFC?
Before we start?
Yeah, let's do that.
Before we do that, though, Sal.
Yeah.
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All right.
Carolina is not the favorite.
I was surprised by that.
The New England Patriots are now your favorite at plus 190.
That's what I'm saying.
Carolina plus 210.
That's dropped from plus 500.
Arizona plus 320.
Not a big drop off from plus 360 last week.
And then Denver, just a steep little tiny drop to plus 425.
Wow.
So, I mean, at this point,
it just pays to just take your team once
and then take them again.
Bet them like that, right?
I mean, Patriots, well, we haven't done the lines yet,
but do you know what the Super Bowl line is?
Take a guess. I don't. AFC, NFCc what do you think i would say nfc by three nfc one and a half
tell the patriots patriots are the super bowl favorites but the nfc is favored like if the
patriots make the super bowl they'll be an underdog they have to do that though because
if denver makes the super bowl they're to be like seven point underdogs. Wow.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Let me take the AFC here.
This is weird.
A couple more things before we get to all this stuff.
Tennessee hired Mike Malarkey.
Yeah.
Did you see that?
And they announced it during the Pats Chiefs game.
Oh, did they?
Yeah.
Is that what it was?
It was like they tried to sneak it by everyone.
Right.
Has there ever been a more uninspiring coach hiring than Mike Malarkey?
No.
Wasn't he the guy that was running them the last six, seven weeks?
Yeah, basically.
And they looked terrible.
Yeah.
Congratulations, Tennessee fans.
We haven't talked since LA football happened.
Oh, I know.
You're more excited than I am.
Well, I'm excited for the Super Bowl.
We're going to have Super Bowls.
55 in five years?
Yeah, I think every five years we'll have one.
Okay.
I'm excited to go to the Combine.
That'll be fun.
Combine will be here.
That'll be good.
We'll go to the Pro Bowl.
We won't go to the Pro Bowl? Maybe. I don't know. I would go to the Pro Bowl. Go gamble on it? No, it's going'll be here that'll be good we'll go to the pro bowl we won't go to the pro maybe
i would go to the pro bowl is it on it it's not it's gonna be here they'll move it to la
that'll be fun i'm excited that the area could be built up nicely it's inglewood right
it's kind of by my house ish that would be nice if uh if it became like a like downtown la is
right now but that's going to happen.
LA Live and everything.
You think so?
Yeah, I think Inglewood has a chance to be pretty cool.
Right.
A lot of stuff over there.
The forums over there.
And it's a location that makes sense.
It's near stuff.
It's not that far away from Hollywood.
It's pretty far from the Valley,
but nice and close to basically everything over in
the Manhattan Beach, all that area.
I like everything about it, except I don't want to go to a Rams game.
I know, but you go see the Cowboys at the Rams.
Well, yeah, once every three years, whatever, four years.
But I don't want people asking me for tickets.
You don't want people asking you for tickets.
I'm just going to say I don't have tickets.
You are?
Say it now. Say it now. I don't want people asking you for tickets. I'm just going to say I don't have tickets. You are? Say it now.
Say it now.
I don't have tickets.
What I'm going to do is I'm not going to do anything.
And I'm going to wait for our cousin to go in on some suite with like five other celebrities.
And then he'll never go.
And we'll just get to use the tickets.
I guess so.
I don't know.
That's going to happen, right?
Yeah, I know.
Me, Matt Damon, and three other A-listers are getting a suite that we'll never use ever.
Look, I guess the games will be late.
So late afternoon.
So they'll only be competing with like two or three other games.
So that's good.
So we wouldn't miss.
I guess if we went to a couple games, we wouldn't miss too much.
Right.
And then you could have the other games and we'll never go.
We're never going.
I'd much rather watch football than go to a football game.
Of course.
I'd go once if like my team wasn't playing.
Right.
Can we talk about how we watched football with Romo or we can't?
Sure.
Why not?
I mean, I don't have to give away any Romo secrets, but Romo was in town.
He was in town.
You came along.
I'm going to make a statement here you came along basically just
to report back here on monday how i was fawning over my idol no how i was that's not not sure
how i was melting in front of him and what actually ended up happening is now he's your
favorite player in the league i love romo great guy i will say this after spending five hours
with him i think he's going to be the best uh media guy
since collinsworth when he when he moves into that yeah if if he can harness everything we saw on
saturday night and bring that to television yeah he will be the best guy since collinsworth it
didn't work out great for me because he he it ended up he was kissing brady's ass and the
patriots ass and you love that oh my And you loved that. Oh, my God.
That's why I really loved Romo.
I know.
I said, I'm not dealing with this.
It made me so happy.
And he teased us in the beginning of the night. What a way to my heart.
He really said, Brady changed the game for quarterbacks.
And we're like, what do you mean?
What are you talking about?
Wait, don't tell him how.
No, he saved it for dinner.
He saved it.
He wouldn't tell us.
He wouldn't tell us for hours.
He's like, I'll save it.
I'll let you guys know.
It was great. It was like a cliffhanger it was like when rocky when when
apollo kept saying remember after this you owe me a favor yeah what favor that's what it was
all night long and then i was like and then finally at dinner it's totally worth it well like
this is not going to be worth it you promised it way too long this can't be worth it and it
seemed simple to say that Brady made it okay.
No, no, don't give it away.
I'll never tell you. No, don't give it away.
I don't want people to know. I just want us to know.
Okay. It was a compelling
case. It included recreations
and imitations. It was phenomenal.
It was really one of the best 10 minute moments
of any dinner I've ever had. If it happened
on YouTube, we would like, we have to book this
guy and have him do it on our show.
Yeah, I'm not ruling that out.
No?
No, I think that,
I think, yeah.
It was really good.
His ability to imitate
other quarterbacks
was incredible.
But not even putting him down.
It was just not in a negative way.
No, he just could
literally imitate them.
Right.
But,
and I mean like the actual,
their style,
not like how they talk.
Right.
But yeah, no, Romo, yeah, I've actually felt bad for him listening to him talking about
this season where he really felt like Dallas was one of the best teams.
Of course.
And he was like, we got screwed and I got hurt and we should be here.
And I feel like we could have played with these teams.
And you were just sitting there like, I saw a look in your eyes.
Only Piper really brought out. I love him.
I love him more than seven of my top ten best friends, including you, for sure.
So his brother-in-law is Chase Crawford.
Yeah, you love Chase.
Chase was a good guy.
I like Chase Crawford.
Yeah, you had a nice sidebar at dinner with Chase.
Yeah, it was good.
What were you even talking about?
Yeah, talking 2000s TV. Yeah, all that stuff. it was good what were you even talking about we were talking gossip
2000s TV
yeah all that stuff
it was good
he's a good guy
good guy
Texas guy
but yeah it was weird
cause
Romo's brother-in-law
is also a famous person
right
alright
I won't say anything else
leave it at that
we had a lot of fun though
yeah he's
I look forward to the bidding war for Romo
because there is a 100% chance.
I don't know, though, whether he'd be, if I were him,
I don't know whether I'd want to do games or studio.
I think I would want to do games.
He's got four years left.
He's going to win a Super Bowl.
Don't worry about this.
He said he has at least four.
He's going to play Super Bowl 55 in L.A. for the Dallas Cowboys.
Oh, I thought you were saying he was going to come.
Well, that would be nice, too.
That's the one thing I was thinking, though, when he was here.
And this is Gladwell and I talked about L.A. football for a while.
And the one thing I didn't think of that I was kicking myself after.
L.A. football, I wonder if it's going to lead to people wanting to play here like it does in basketball where for
years and years it was like oh people Shaq and Dwight Howard and Kareem all these people try to
get to LA right if you're if you're a famous person let's say you're Aaron Rodgers like five
years from now somebody drafts they it's basically Rodgers far of reincarnated they draft somebody in
the first round this quarterback and he's pretty good and then it's like oh this guy it's time to play
aaron rogers we're shoving you out like we shoved out farve and you got like two years left
wouldn't you want to come here sure la is going to be able to cherry pick some talent i feel like
like breeze i wonder if breeze just looks at this and go, oh, the Rams. Why not? They need a QB.
LA.
I thought about this.
And then I looked at the top markets in the country, the TV markets.
And I was like, what?
It would make sense that they had the best quarterback, at least.
Or one of the best quarterbacks.
It doesn't matter.
New York has Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Right.
LA has Nick Foles.
Well, New York has Eli Manning, too.
Nick Foles.
He's famous.
That's true. They have Eli Manning. I don't know. I forgot that. You talked that.A. has. Well, New York has Eli Manning, too. Nick Foles. He's famous. That's true.
They have Eli Manning.
I don't know.
I forgot that.
Chicago is Jake Cutler.
Yeah.
Philadelphia has Sam Bradford.
Yeah.
Dallas has Tony Romo.
San Francisco has Kaepernick.
You're number seven, Boston.
You have the best one.
Atlanta has Matt Ryan.
It's just weird, right?
They're all spread out but manning when he didn't
want to play for san diego forced his way to the giants that's true right and then kush and jerry
mcguire he forced his way to the broncos so there's like six or seven teams i think the
niners are like that i think dallas I think the Patriots now with Brady.
Detroit's a top 10 market. The Giants.
Houston.
I'm not talking about markets.
It's more like the quarterback prestige franchises.
Right.
Like somebody's always going to want to be the quarterback of the Cowboys and the Steelers.
And maybe LA is now like that.
I don't think.
Raiders used to be like that.
That was the case before.
Before we get to the Super Bowl lines.
So, last night after football.
You know, there was nothing really on last night.
It was kind of a weird dead night.
The Godfather epic was on.
Oh.
Did you see that?
I didn't, no. Yeah.
It was on HBO.
Was it?
They ran the whole Godfather.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm just stumbling around.
I'm looking for shows to watch.
Have you heard of Voodoo?
It's like some video channel.
It was on my Samsung.
Really?
Yeah, it's something they have video things.
They had this show called 25.
I hadn't seen it.
You haven't heard of this?
25?
No.
Yeah, so Andy Reid, apparently he's been filming this show during the off seasons.
And it's from the producers of 24.
It's 25. Basically, he gets hired by ct remember they had jack bauer yeah and every every show is is like what what 24 was where it's
like it's 60 minutes right but but every every episode when something the clock gets screwed up
and right when it's going to be be the last five minutes of the show,
the show ends.
That's crazy.
And it never has an ending because Andy Reid, who's playing himself,
he's playing a CT, he keeps screwing up the clock.
It doesn't end?
It never ends on time.
So the whole time, then you just have to wait to the next show
because the ending from the last show didn't happen.
But it all works out.
It's just the only problem is it's 25 right so they had to add a fifth even though it's a full day they
actually had to add a another hour fifth hour yeah because to make up all the time that andy
screwed up the other episode with chloe trying to yeah yeah he's like we got to get there the
terrorists are going to be there at 12 o'clock I love that
but then he shows up
at like 12.06
oh he can't tell time
and a lot of things blow up
yeah
a lot of things
like a lot of times
he just
but it's never his fault
because he's
you know
he's taking his time
it's really good
Kiefer Sutherland's in it
he produces it
he makes it in there
he's in like four
things
yeah Chloe's in it
there's a couple of your favorites
Tony Almeida's in it oh
yeah yeah yeah he gets blown up because andy he it was 12 o'clock he's supposed to be there
you know the building get there wasn't his fault though there's traffic i heard about this
because i heard it's on voodoo voodoo yeah v-u V-U-D-U. Yeah. Because Voodoo, they have a companion show.
What?
Yeah.
This is strange.
It's with Aaron Rodgers dating Mary J. Blige in the mid-1940s.
What a weird couple.
Now, it's strange because they're on the outskirts of Milwaukee and the interracial dating is
not yet accepted.
Yeah.
That's bad.
I mean, they're just evil people, but how about they put these two through and then on top of that mary j blige is a nazi
sympathizer oh no yeah so it gets weird it takes some turns you don't even know who you're rooting
for anymore you want them to fall in love to be able to keep it right and uh it's called uh it's called heil mary she's a nazi sympathizer you see and she's with aaron rogers i don't know if it's gonna do very
jay blush i don't know very very risky role for her yeah yeah yeah i don't know she's really
made a commitment to drama right this voodoo has really taken off big year for voodoo so stupid all right uh well
so um actually you know what before we do this let's go uh game of thrones is coming we're three
months away miraculously you don't need cable or satellite to watch hpo anymore just download the hbo now app and start your free one month trial they might not have 25 and they might not have hyle mary why
don't they take a chance on our shows but they have some they have some great stuff including
last night they showed the godfather epic which is the godfather chronologically yeah you and i
have seen the godfather combined seven million times they had scenes in there i'd never seen
really yeah there's extra scenes in The Godfather.
Wow.
Yeah, a bunch of them.
Like when Talia Shire, Connie, when her husband really beats her up and that leads to Sonny going over there.
Yeah.
They had a whole extra thing in there that led to the fight.
Wow.
Yeah, and he's coming out of the shower and she's yelling right before the Bafangul scene.
Right, right, right.
But it was all this stuff.
I was like, what's that doing in there?
They had a scene with Michael
right after his wife blows up.
He's in the hospital.
They're treating him.
They tell him.
Is that right?
Yeah, I was stunned.
Do they highlight or just like surprise you?
No, it's just in there.
It's like seven hours.
That's great.
So anyway, HBO Now, The Godfather Epic. If you're a fan of The Godfather, I would recommend going through there. there it's like it's like seven hours that's great um so anyway hbo now the godfather epic
if you're if you're a fan of the godfather i would recommend going through there um and who knows at
some point down the road this podcast might be on hbo you never know you just never know with stuff
uh do yourself a favor download the hbo hbo now app today all right let's go to uh let's go to the lines. Sunday, 3 p.m., your Patriots travel to Denver.
Sunday, 3 p.m., 12 o'clock West Coast time.
Brady Manning, 17, yep.
Does this count as a Brady Manning?
No, no, no.
This is kind of like Magic Johnson and Larry Bird filming a McDonald's commercial in, like, 93.
Doesn't it have the same kind of.
Okay.
How about my dad being here for this?
Oh, he is going to be here.
My dad is coming this weekend.
Oh, good.
Kind of like, yeah, made the trip a while ago, but kind of, oh, maybe they'll be in the AFC title game.
But deep down kind of hoping for it.
Is that typically good luck for you?
I mean, I guess.
Yes.
Yeah.
Typically. Typically. Doesn't mean't mean right this time around i had the pats by three okay you came a lot closer than i did i favored
denver by one i saw that i was surprised it's pats by three and a half is what it is right now wow
yeah and i did see four when it first came out but then it went down to three
now it's up to three and a half but here's why i had denver favorite i thought about a lot
and i printed these out the in the last 35 years in the afc championship game the road team has
been favored how many times one time pat's colts that I can remember.
I don't even have that one.
Pat's Colts?
I think the Colts were favored in New England one of those times, right?
The AFC title?
No.
The Colts were favored at some point.
New England at Indy in 07, Indy was a favorite.
It's happened three times in the last 35 years.
92-93, Buffalo at Miami. buffalo was a two-point favorite they killed them like oh i bet on that yeah yeah i love that i was
i was an early turner on dan marino and playoff games right he just couldn't move 93 yeah that
was that might have been the bill's best team i don I don't know. All right. Yeah, that was a good team. 97-98, Denver at Pittsburgh.
Oh, Cordell Stewart.
Denver, Cordell Stewart against Elm. Another one I bet on.
I love betting against Cordell Stewart.
Denver, two and a half point favorite.
They won 24-20.
Oh, I remember it well.
Third time New England at Pittsburgh.
New England minus three.
Watch that at Corolla's Bar.
Right.
Patriots. With Damoshek. Damoshek stormedolla's bar. Right. Patriots.
Damoshek.
Damoshek stormed out in the first half.
Still upset about it.
Still upset.
He stormed out.
He didn't want any part of it.
Just ran.
He ran, Damoshek.
What?
What's that?
He's going to hear about this.
Now, he was.
41-27, Patriots won.
Remember that?
He knew.
He got out. It was the right move. I would have done the exact same thing. He was smart. No, he was 41 27 patriots remember that he he he knew he he got out it was the right move i would have done the exact same thing he was smart but so three times and what did i say 34
years something that the road team has been favored they covered every time
i see there was a colts pats afc title game looking at this you show us a title game 2003
or four where they were favored,
and then the line shifted toward the Pats at the end.
New England was home minus three.
New England won 24-14.
Maybe it was the round two game.
Yeah, I don't think it was the championship.
The game that we beat them 20-3, they were favored in that game.
And it was snowing, bruce got the game winning
okay right yeah i don't think that was round two i think that was around i screwed up so three
games three times and however many what about the nfc there's probably more for nfc there's not
there's only four i mean it's a rare thing it's weird um san francisco at atlanta 2013 san francisco
is three and a half point favorite they won 28-24 remember that that
was Simpsons what year is that 13 so that was when they played the Ravens in the Super Bowl
oh yeah okay uh we had San Francisco 2011 Green Bay at Chicago Green Bay by three and a half they
win 21-14 Chicago had what's his name a quarterback remember. Oh, that's Cutler got hurt. Played a good game.
Caleb Haney came in.
Cutler got hurt.
Yep.
Philly in 2009, three and a half point favorite at Arizona.
Arizona won.
Kurt Warner.
Yep.
God puppies in Pakistan.
Yep.
And then 97, 98, Green Bay at San San Francisco Green Bay wins 23-10
they were favored by 2.5
this was the year
they beat Denver in the Super Bowl
they lost to Denver in the Super Bowl
I think I lost that one
I think I did too
I think I like San Francisco
it wasn't
yeah that was like the last
kind of
part of the Rice era
right
so the road favorites just win is what you're telling us.
Yeah.
Yep.
Well, a couple things with this.
One is that if the Pats just finish that game in Denver,
this game's in New England, and they're favored by 7.5,
that was frustrating.
Right.
If Cincinnati doesn't lose that Monday night game to Houston 10-6,
Cincy's the two seed or the one seed.
Wow.
Right.
Every year there's three dumb regular season games that flip all kinds of stuff.
That one, Houston beating Cincy has never been explained.
All right.
Pats minus three.
Three and a half.
Yeah.
Denver.
That'll go to three.
They're going to go back down?
Yeah.
People will talk themselves into Denver's D at some point.
Man, I don't know.
Who are you leaning toward?
I'm leaning towards the Patriots, but I wish you could get someone who could get 45 yards rushing.
That's not Tom Brady.
Well, you can't run on Denver anyway.
Can you?
We should watch this together.
Because Hanch, big Patriots fan,
your dad, you, me,
Corolla has money on the Patriots.
I don't want to watch any games with Corolla.
What are you talking about?
What do you mean?
He's the worst luck ever.
Oh, I see.
Might as well bring a litter of black cats in the game.
All right.
You want to go on to the second game?
Yeah, I'm emotionally ready for the second game.
6.40 p.m. Eastern.
3.40 Pacific.
Arizona at Carolina.
I went Carolina by four and you did too.
We both said four.
And I have no idea if...
So you're going to win because you won the first game.
Yeah, I beat you.
It's Carolina by three, which it was three over Seattle too.
Arizona's gotten Vegas' respect all year.
But I really did think it would...
I thought they'd push this to four.
I think Carolina's really good.
Yeah.
That first half they played
against Seattle was one of the all-time
ass kicks.
They let up at the end of the second quarter.
They had the ball. It was like
a third and six.
It was after the
missed
field goal. They were in midfield.
They had less than
a minute. They had time to actually go get more points.
They just did the basic draw into the middle of the line.
Yeah.
And it was like,
if they had just gone for it there,
I think,
I think that could have been up like 34,
nothing.
Had it,
it was just,
they just led up from that moment on.
If they,
but they can't be forgotten how awesome they were in the first 25 minutes.
So they were incredible.
They went 31,
17.
Do they, are they a three-and-a-half or four-point favorite?
I almost feel like that last touchdown made everyone think,
wow, they can't hold the lead.
We can't make this more than a field goal.
And Olsen, how long was Olsen out?
That hurt them, too.
Olsen was out for a couple series at least.
I don't know about Arians.
That really bummed me out how he iced his own kicker,
giving Green Bay another chance at the ball.
He threw on second down.
Arians was all over him. And then ran on third down.
And he goes to the two-minute warning.
And then his kicker has to kick to put him up seven.
That was a mess.
The worst thing about that throw on second down was it was such a high-risk play.
Oh, yeah.
It's either goes out of bounds or the guy...
Yeah.
If you're going to throw, do a little screen pass or a little quick screen to the receiver or something.
Right.
Not that play.
Yeah.
Arians, although that's who he is, though.
He's a freaking riverboat gambler.
You can't question him.
You can't question him.
Al, I just don't know why they're throwing.
I just don't know why they're throwing. I just don't understand it.
Yeah.
Carolina by three.
Man, it's tough to take.
It's tough.
Are we going to have to go against our Pats Arizona Super Bowl bet,
it looks like?
A little bit.
I mean, you have to be a little nervous.
Seattle going deep in the second half.
Arizona's got better receivers that can stretch the field than Seattle does.
Those safeties didn't show me a lot there for Carolina.
No, and it did seem like, although I guess you could say their defense was on the field for so long in the second half.
They lost the desire.
So that's it.
I'm sad.
We're down to two, three games now.
Should I go get my son for a Royal Rumble preview?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right. Should I? Okay. Wait, hold Should I go get my son for Royal Rumble preview? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.
Should I?
Okay.
Wait, hold on.
All right.
Royal Rumble is this Sunday.
And for the first time ever, Roman Reigns, they're really trying to take the title from him.
Vince McMahon will do this sometimes.
He just becomes a mean person.
Yeah.
That's a jerk.
That's my son.
Roman Reigns has to defend his title in the Royal Rumble against 29 other guys.
Doesn't seem fair, Ben, does it?
No, it doesn't.
It really isn't.
Because Sheamus sucks!
Can you not sound like a maniac?
You hate Sheamus.
When Sheamus won the title, you actually started crying.
I did.
Why do you hate Seamus so much?
Try to be nice.
Don't swear.
Because he turned on... Oh, yeah.
He turned on...
On who?
He turned on Roman Reigns.
Roman Reigns.
Yeah.
He came out and cheap-shotted him.
Ben likes Roman Reigns now.
Why do you like him so much, man?
Because the shield broke up. Now I like him.
Because my sister likes him.
Oh, there you go.
Well, there's not a lot of heroes left for him
because John Cena got hurt.
Daniel Bryan got hurt.
Randy Orton.
All the people you like are hurt, basically.
Can you stop
saying that? People think I'm a bad dad.
They know. They knew already.
You're right. They probably did.
So what's your prediction? Does Roman Reigns lose the title?
Yes, he's going to lose it again.
Sheamus and Roman Reigns are going to
be the last one.
Vince McMahon's going to come out and throw out
Roman Reigns and that's going to be it.
No Brock Lesnar?
Might be Brock Lesnar too.
So this is the one where they
ring the bell, there's two guys start and then
every what? Every two minutes
somebody comes out. One minute.
Every one minute.
So where they start, where they put him
in the order, like a lot of it
depends on where they put him, right? So they might lot of it depends on where they put him, right?
So they might put him like second.
If they put him out there second and then it's a miraculous thing where he fights his way to the end.
Right.
That's never happened before.
That hasn't happened.
Royal Rumble other than the nine times it's happened.
But are we, any surprises?
Can we see Hulk Hogan?
I think so.
Or Ric Flair.
If we see Ric Flair, that would be trouble.
Interesting.
It's gonna be, woo!
Not so much.
Ben's wearing a Ric Flair's type robe right now.
He really is.
He's so dressed up for the podcast.
Ben's on a big Macho Man Randy Savage run right now.
He is? Yeah, and the YouTube clips.
You saw the jealous eyes clip.
You got jealous eyes.
My son Jack is all over Yokozuna and Bret Hart and their feud and everything.
And we found out.
Oh, on YouTube?
Oh, you mean the chubby guy?
Yeah, the real chubby guy.
We found out that Yokozuna, not buried in Japan, buried in Palos Verdes, California,
not far from where I live, Jack wants to go visit him.
The most stunning thing about this story
is that Yokozuna's dead. I don't think I knew this.
Oh, you knew that? Really?
I guess I should have assumed.
A giant fat sumo wrestler.
He's buried in Palos Verdes.
Palos Verdes, yeah.
So does Jack, he likes Yokozuna because
he just likes big fat people?
He likes all the fat dead wrestlers.
I had to buy him Big Daddy V. I had to buy him big daddy v i had to get
him uh vader and uh i guess he's not dead yet but there there's a obviously andre give it that i
don't know there's some all of them i have them all andre it's ridiculous vader's not dead yet
i don't think he is but like big boss man is yeah tugboat tugboat dead right yeah he is yeah
so all right so you think Roman Reigns loses the title.
And then what's the WrestleMania main event?
I think it might be The Rock and Roman Reigns versus Sheamus and Triple H.
Ooh.
A tag team.
And they'd have to have a title involved there, right?
Yeah, because I hope the New Day loses the titles.
Oh, yeah.
To the Usos?
Yeah, and then the Usos lose the title
to, uh,
what's their names?
Oh, Triple H
and Sheamus.
Oh.
So it'd be a
main event tag team match.
I don't know.
I like it.
There's an Intercontinental
match in Royal Rumble, too,
right?
Kevin Owens
versus Dean Ambrose.
We both think
Dean Ambrose should be
a bad guy.
I think he could be
a Piper-like bad guy
If they really wanted him
They've toyed with turning on him
In the late, great Roddy Piper
He could turn on Roman Reigns
Wait, what did Roddy Piper do?
Well, he actually said to me
He's like, Dean Ambrose reminds me a lot of myself
Piper said that
He loved Ambrose, yeah
So maybe they're just saving it for the perfect time
Maybe they are
Sal was friends with Roddy Piper
Could be good
Pretty impressive
Alright, so we're at Rumble
So this could be a sad day for us If the Patriots lose and then Roman Reigns loses the title.
The flag could be at half mast at the Simmons house.
All right.
What would you rather have?
Would you rather have the Patriots lose and Roman Reigns win or the Patriots win and Roman
Reigns lose?
The Patriots lose and Roman Reigns win.
He's already.
He's LA Rams.
He's ready.
I feel the same way.
Just remember, I could always kick you out
You don't have to live here
Alright, you have to go, I have to finish the packet
Alright, that's a good idea
That's a Loser Leaves Podcast, Matthew
You lost, man
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