The Bill Simmons Podcast - Ep. 60: Friday Rollin' w/ Joe House & Michael Rapaport

Episode Date: February 5, 2016

HBO's Bill Simmons welcomes Joe House to discuss Curry's electric performance in D.C., the ceiling for Curry's highest scoring game (14:00), the farfetched KD/GSW story (18:25), Cam & the Panthers (24:30) and a SB 50 pick (31:00). Then, Michael Rapaport explains why he's not on FX's new OJ show (42:00), then talks OJ & CTE (48:00), Cam Newton & race & media (55:00), Straight Outta Compton (1:04:00), his only Hollywood boner (1:07:00) and the Knicks & Warriors (1:14:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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House, do you know if Tupac ever covered Private Eyes by Hollow Notes or no? I don't know, but I'm glad that we're talking about songs. I gotta warn you right up front. I'm in a stinging mood today, my friend. Uh-oh. I have music in my blood today.

Now, first of all, you know before every Friday Rolling podcast, I like to listen to my Rolling playlist. Yeah. At the top of that playlist is, of course, Picture Me Rolling. That's Pac. Yeah. But then right below, I got my Limp Bizkit. Yeah. I got my limp biscuit yeah i got my

coolio rolling with the homies yeah i got my adele rolling in the deep yeah and then you know i i always i always make sure my austin mahoney featuring becky g is in there what about what about privatized by hall notes what it doesn't fit the Roland theme, but it sure does fit another theme. They were rolling into somebody's house. They sure were. Hanging outside the parents' house. If you had two private eyes outside the house of Dick House, your father and your lovely mother, whose name I'm blanking on for some reason.

Betty House. You'd be a little concerned, right? Two private eyes? Well, they know better. They'd call the cops first thing. They wouldn't answer the door. Two dudes in long trench coats? Yeah, Dick House would shoot those private eyes. So,

Wednesday, Wednesday, you finally got to see the magical Golden State Warriors and the modern-day Pete Maravich, Steph Curry. You got to see the magical Golden State Warriors and the modern-day Pete Maravich, Steph Curry. You got to see them in person in Chocolate City. And you were beside yourself.

I actually texted you at halftime to make sure that you hadn't had a stroke or something. Tell us what that game was like. I mean, it's an all-caps wow. The superlatives don't do it justice. It's not incredible. It's not extraordinary. It's not stupendous. It's better than that.

It's better than all those. It's incredible, unbelievable. It's an all-cast wow. You can't believe it. Did you find yourself cheering for Curry even though he was going at your team? I mean, I texted this. It happens to be true. I had an involuntary reflex every time he got behind

and started to put in a position to stroke it. I jumped up out of my seat every time. Seven, you know, eight times he was behind the three-point line the first quarter. I'm out of my seat eight times. He made seven threes in the first quarter. He did it. If we had said 10 years ago, like, somebody's going to make seven threes in a quarter, we all would have been like, no way.

Nobody's doing that. And he does it routinely now. Like, people, they just, they don't even blink now. I get these texts like, Curry, 25.73 is in the first quarter. And 10 years ago, I would have fell down. Now it's like, oh, all right, I'll turn that on. He's nothing me. I'll tell you what, watching it in person, i fell down i jump out of out of my seat and

jump right back down i mean it just it it and then the the the the crowd you know it's it was a good home crowd i'm not sure how it played on tv um no great that was a good dc crowd it felt like a little bit of like a soccer game, which is how those Warriors games feel like, where you have like 25% of the fans are really rooting hard for Curry and then everyone else is rooting for the home team. Yeah, yeah. And the Curry, there was a buzz. There was a buzz every time he touched the ball.

And there was like a collective breathing. We were all like in synchronized breathing like oh oh yeah and then some cheers and and and the cheers you know the the contingent that um is so impressive with curry that makes the most noise are the kids the kids love the curry they really they love chef curry there's so many kids in golden state you t-shirts. It's so good for the league. It's great. What's interesting is the last time this happened was the MJ Pippen Bowls after

MJ came back. When it just felt like it was an event. The fans were kind of rooting for the other team and there was just a level of respect I can't remember seeing before just for what you're watching like wow i'm probably never gonna see this again you knew that in the moment

and then shack and kobe came along never quite got there it was awesome to see them in person but i never felt like like i don't remember seeing them in person now that bulls team what that was a barnstorming tour. Yeah, yeah. There was something different about that. Shaq and Kobe never quite got there. I think if they had peaked in 2001 during the regular season, they peaked in the playoffs, they would have gotten there, but it was

really just a playoff thing. And then LeBron and the Heat, during, I guess, the 27-game winning streak, they got there briefly. Yeah, it was cool. game winning streak, they got there briefly. Yeah, it was cool. But, but it was temporary. This is different.

I mean, this has now been going on for four months, you know, we're in February now and these guys are, this is like the bulls. Like you said, it's a barnstorming tour and that's what, that's why this is so special. I think. Well, and it's also different because of the singular talent of the best player in the league. Yeah. You know, it's such a unique talent. It's so unlike anything that we've seen before in the hot streak that he's on. And I know that I already kind of, I went on Twitter Wednesday and expressed my disappointment

about not being able to get in early. Washington couldn't figure out a way to accommodate the fans to watch Curry warm up. But, you know, somehow or another I saw the next day there was 200 people in there, but those were not, you know, I have a buddy who's been a longtime season ticket holder. He wasn't invited in there, so I have no idea who they let in. That's a mistake.

They came up with an exclusive crew in typical Washington fashion. But the whole experience of him, there was a line of people on both sides of the tunnel, and they allowed fans to line the Warriors' entry, and people were taking pictures as the Warriors entered the court and Curry came out first. Right. And I don't care. In D.C.? We were there for the entire Shaq-Kobe experience, and we were there for LeBron and the Heat,

and LeBron got like 80% there, especially on the Cavs those last two years, and then when Miami became a little bit something bigger but there was a villainous WWE aspect to that first Miami season this is the last time I remember something like this happening was that Jordan Pippen thing where people would just wait for them to come out for the pregame and it was like everyone's on pins and needles it was almost the best way I can can compare it is it's like being at a concert when you're waiting for the band to come out and then they lower the lights and everybody starts cheering. You know, that's a good comparison. Yeah.

Part of it is because it's so joyful. Yeah. You know what I mean? The Warriors don't inspire like hatred. Right. I don't even know who the villain on the Warriors is. It's probably Bogut, I guess. Right.

We were meeting yesterday with some of the people that are working with me now, and I was joking about how the all-time hot take angle would be somebody trying to create the backlash against this Curry thing, and we were joking about what that backlash would look like. I don't even know. I guess it would be like Steph Curry's kind of boring off the court, maybe. Like, where would you even go? Everybody just loves this.

It's fantastic. I don't know how you would pick it apart. And we live in a society where everything gets picked apart. And this is the one thing, it's unpick-ap our pick apartable right it's because it's genuine and earnest and you know that's what a rare thing these this day and age so um when you watch the warriors did you feel and you caught them on a good night yeah um. Actually, you know what? I would say I caught them on like a 75% night, like on a kind of a B to B plus night. I didn't catch them on a pure A.

Clay Thompson didn't have a great game. Draymond got to a triple-double, but also had a bunch of fouls. Bo got damn near fouled out. And they couldn't guard John Wall. And their interior defense was sorry. I mean, they really had no answer for John Wall. That's all fine. But they're not losing a game where Steph Curry scores over 50 points.

The Warriors is crazily constructed. They're not losing. The thing that I found myself thinking as the third quarter went on and Washington made it really competitive and the fans were into it and Wall was going so hard. I mean, he's such a talent. Yeah. And it's a shame it's being wasted this season.

But it meant that for sure Steph was going to come out and play in the fourth quarter. We were going to see Steph in the fourth quarter, and I was thrilled about that as the fact that the game, that Washington was playing hard. The one thing I will tell you, there was not one second from the moment the ball was tipped until, you know, two minutes left in the game when the Warriors were up by 13 or 15 or 11 or whatever it was,

that I thought that the Washington local professional team was going to win. Not one moment. And the other thing, when you go see Curry in person, especially on a night like that um nobody's going to get food or go to the bathroom or get beers or anything you're just kind of in your seats until he comes out and then it's almost like a concert where you know you go to see whatever band and they play their hits and then the guy's like all right time to play some songs from our new album and everybody runs to the concessions that's what it's like when curry comes out that was me he was

out cur did us did me a great did my bladder a terrific favor in the second quarter gave him gave uh curry a nice extended um seat on the bench i ran right up and ran right back down and and caught him right at the end of the second quarter. I wonder how high he can get from a point standpoint. Because, you know, if a defense tries hard enough, they can make it really hard for him to score. Because it just becomes stupid because he's going to make the right play all the time. And if they're going to just trap him from 30 feet away he's going to pass to an open guy and that's it yeah so i i don't think there is a a kind of ceiling to how much he's going to score because i don't think the warriors would indulge the idea of letting him get to 80

or you know try and crack 90 anything like that no it's so far it's so out of their dna you know but it's like you said it has to be a semi-close game. The other team, and that's why in the first quarter, when he had the 25, I was with Fantasy and Chris, and we're kind of watching the score. Like, man, if the Wiz can keep this to like seven or eight, then Curry might actually play four quarters. Like, this is conceivable.

I was more interested to see if he, you know, what's crazy is he doesn't have the record for most threes in a game. It's 12. I was stunned by that. I thought, I just assumed he had it. And I assumed the record was 16 or something, but it's 12. Right, exactly, or 20. It seems so doable for him.

But as soon as the Wiz realized that they actually had to start trapping him, which unfortunately did not happen in the first quarter, all of a sudden there's ceiling for what Curry can do. The Kobe 81-point game, and there were good oral histories about it, where the two biggest factors were that it was a close game where they had to come from behind. And then they had Idiot Sam Mitchell on the other sideline just single-teaming him.

And he was red hot, and they didn't take the ball in the stands. Yeah. Poor Jalen. I mean, you know. So I think it's going to be really hard for everyone, especially in the Internet era, where you're just going to be roasted and filleted and YouTube clips and GIFs and all this stuff. Nobody wants to be embarrassed.

Not that people wanted to be embarrassed in 2006, but now it's like the stakes are higher from an embarrassment standpoint. And people just—Curry, I don't see him getting over 62, 63. I don't think it's conceivable. It doesn't make sense for the Warriors. I still think we can see somebody in the 70s and maybe approaching 80s, but it's going to be in a situation kind of like last season

where it's like Melo and the Knicks playing somebody who's already shut it down for the season. Like they're playing Brooklyn or they're playing Phoenix. And Melo just happens to be hot. He makes his first four shots or something at the beginning of the game, like, hey, this is cool.

Right. And so he just keeps shooting and shooting and shooting and, you know, fills it up. He had that 60, was it five or six-point game last season, you know, in March or April. I actually think if you had to tell me who has the best chance of getting a 70, I would say Durant. Because part of what needs to happen is the other team has to start getting in foul trouble and somebody's got to start getting in the line. And with Durant, he can get to the line, but so can Westbrook. And they could play a team like Detroit and just foul out Drummond and Aaron Baines, all these different guys. And by the fourth quarter, it's just a show of a team.

That's the one thing that hurts Curry is he's not going to get to the line over and over again. It's all jump shots, so you're always going against the other team's best team. I like that KD theory because OKC definitely will allow either one of Russie or KD, if one of them has a hot hand, to shoot every single time they come down the floor. We should mention, speaking of KD, both of us wanted to see him play for two straight months before we were officially ready to believe in the Oklahoma City Thunder.

It's true. And he's done it now. I think I'm looking up his stats as we're talking. But he has played now 44 games. He's up to 27.4 a game for points. His January was fantastic. 20.5 points. 9.3 rebounds. Getting to the line, 7.7 free throws, 49-37-89 splits.

He's back. That's Durant. And that's why that two seed is so important because who the hell wants to play that team in round two? Hey, here's my opinion. No thanks. I don't want to see those guys. Yeah, that's my expert opinion. I don't want to see Durant and Westbrook in any round, but especially round two.

And then I would have to play the Warriors after that. No thank you. So they're presently third, right? They're third. How close are they to... I'm looking right now. Well, the Spurs...

It's getting interesting with the Spurs, right? They have a five-game lead on Oklahoma City. There's 31 games left. Yeah. But Maynard just went out. Duncan is a million years old. You know, one little injury to

Kawhi or Aldridge and OKC if they stay healthy, I think could make that gap up. That's not a lot of games, especially the Spurs have a couple more games against the Warriors and all that stuff. I want to talk quickly about Durant. And I know we've got to talk Super Bowl.

Please do. There's a story that came out a couple days ago, and it was Wojnarowski's new website, where it was a two-pronged story about Durant, the Warriors planning for Durant, and then another article about how they could make it happen cap-wise. I'll do respect to that site and the reporting. I thought that was one of the most ludicrous stories I've ever read. For this reason.

The Warriors are 45-4. Why the hell would they mess with anything? They're not thinking about next year. They're not thinking about Durant. I think it's absurd. I just don't believe it. I don't believe anyone on that team in the locker room, in the front office, anyone who owns the team is thinking anything other than let's keep this together.

This is a once in a generation team. They're not thinking, oh, you know what we should do is get rid of Harrison Barnes and renounce Sean Livingston and renounce Festus Azili and trade Andre Iguodala and get Kevin Durant in here. That is the most idiotic logic I've ever heard. I'm not questioning that Will Juraski wrote the story because he had information. My question is who's feeding the information? I know.

And if I'm on another team, like the Spurs or OKC or the Clippers or the Cavaliers, I'm feeding this stuff to reporters. It'd be like, hey, man, I heard the Warriors are going hard after Durant. Wouldn't you do that if you're one of the other teams? I don't believe anything about this story. I think it's being fed by the other teams, and I think they all have an agenda for it. Your thoughts? That's exactly the right way.

I don't believe one word of it. We're so past the point where there's any legitimate reason to make speculation about where Kevin Durant might go next. The conclusive piece was written before the season started by Zach Lowe. The thing that makes the most economic sense, the thing that still preserves Katie's option, is to resign for one year. Yes. Stay with OKC, with Russie, with Abaka, and then come out the following year.

So it remains the topic du jour, you know, and gets as many looks. And we're at the point this season where, you know, getting eyeballs on stories that don't involve the games because the games are, you know, only going to take you so far other than Steph dropping 51. It's complete conjecture, nonsense talk, motivated by interest in silly stories. The one thing we both know for sure, it is impossible to forecast what's going to happen a year and a half from now. Well, and also, I don't blame them for writing those stories. I think it was smart.

It got them some traffic, some attention. You knew Idiot ESPN was going to race to talk about it for the next 10 hours and get a whole day of programming about it on all their shows. I never heard anybody, and maybe it happened, I just missed it. I never heard anybody make the point that this was fundamentally idiotic, that the Warriors have a chance to break the Bulls' record for 73 wins. There is no possible way they're thinking about, hey, I know we're doing great this year. We have a chance to go back-to-back and go 75-7,

but how could we get better? It's just idiotic. What are you talking about? hey, I know we're doing great this year. We have a chance to go back-to-back and go 75-7, but how could we get better? It's just idiotic. What are you talking about? Nobody's having that conversation. And if Joe Lacob, the Warriors owner, should come out, he should give a press conference, and he should be like, look, I saw this story, and I am just flabbergasted how stupid it was because all this stuff's coming from other teams or people who are trying to undermine what we have.

All I can tell you is this is the best experience of my life as an owner, as a human being. I would never want to break this up. I hope this goes on forever. I want to resign everyone. Why would I break this up? We're about to break the record for best team ever. I'm not breaking this up. Everyone shut up. He doesn't need to go out and do that. It's not team ever. I'm not breaking this up. Everyone shut up.

He doesn't need to go out and do that. It's not a distraction. That's what I would do. That's probably why I can't own a team. I think that's probably right. I mean, you know, they're just handling their business. All of this is nonsense stuff on the margins. It's for the internet.

Well, Draymond should have said something because that article basically said that Draymond was already recruiting Durant and stuff. Draymond should have been like, I'm not doing that. It's too dumb to indulge. It was a 36-hour story. It was the main story everywhere for 36 hours. What's surprising about that? Donald Trump has been touted as the GOP frontrunner for the past six months. You mean the guy who was best on television, the TV

celebrity, has been doing really good on television? I can't believe it! And then there's actually a moment where people vote. Wait a minute. They didn't vote for the TV star? The TV program is over. It's voting time now. And so the same deal here.

Let's get eyeballs. Let's create stories. We have to have stories to fill up these hours of media and these pages of content on the Internet. Who cares? It's ludicrous. It's ludicrous. The sports media talk cycle is at its all-time dumbest. I don't even know who's arguing.

And Rappaport's going to come on a little bit. We're going to talk about it. I don't even know who's arguing. And Rappaport's going to come on a little bit. We're going to talk about it. I don't even know who's arguing against Cam Newton. I love Cam Newton. Who doesn't like Cam Newton? There has been this rumble all season long about the sort of emphatic nature of his celebrations and the duration of them and the dab and all of that. There has been this undercurrent of like, act like you've been there. That's been going on all season long.

There was only one time I didn't like it when they were way up in a game and he kept doing it next to four guys on the other team. And I forget what game it was and the four guys got pissed off. Felt like he was rubbing it in. Not a great example. What game was it? The Saints game. The Saints game.

That was the one time I was like, all right, Cam. Like, reign it back a little bit. Yeah, take it down. What he's doing when he scores in football and some of the stuff he's been doing after the touchdowns is we see it in 30 basketball teams. We see it in college. I just don't get it. And I just don't know who's arguing the flip side on Cam Newton and why this became this whole giant race thing. I don't think he's from...

You already know the answer to that. You and Chuck had the conversation. You and Charles Barkley talked about this a week ago. It's so stupid. It's so stupid. I love Cam Newton. Here's a hot take about cam newton my mom who knows nothing um like two weeks ago walked into our house with a whole thing of

meatballs and she's like who's this cam newton he's gorgeous that's a hot take i haven't heard i haven't heard women in their late 60s talk about how gorgeous cam newton is he does have beautiful teeth i mean i'm a grown grown-ass man but his teeth are awesome he's a handsome dude man it's feeling like the year of cam so let's talk about uh super bowl um both of us like to make picks both of us like to gamble i am six and four this season against the spread i'm five and five i didn't have the balls to take the Broncos two weeks ago, even though I told Tate I was going to before the podcast

and I had my whole case laid out. It was a good case. At the last second I panicked and didn't want to go against my team. I was lazy. I knew that game was scary. I knew a bunch of dumb stuff was going to happen. And basically it came down to my kicker

missed an extra point. My best defensive player got burned twice by Owen Daniels. And there was a pass interference that wasn't called. And most important, my two tackles could not block the two best pass rushers on the Broncos.

And we deserved to lose. The most important factor. I would call Brady on his ass 20 times. It's probably the factor that really decided the outcome of that game. Yeah. I think we deserve to lose the game, but it was also one of those games where everything went wrong for the pats. And other than the backwards pass,

nothing went wrong for the Broncos. And my question, I guess the fourth and 10 Hail Mary to Gronk that he actually caught went wrong. I would say that went well. You and I have been talking all season about how the Broncos have been pulling games out of their buttholes.

We have. Also, how they, it's literally impossible for them to get over 20 points. We made that observation. The Panthers are favored by six. The Broncos cannot score more than 20 points unless they get special teams touchdowns,

defensive touchdowns, whatever. And Carolina scores over 30 points in like every game they play. Just fundamentally, this feels like a 30-20 game if you're judging the histories of these teams. So why is the line only 6 and why am I so afraid to take Carolina?

Wow, why is the line only 6? So one interesting thing, people love Carolina. No big surprise. They scored 49 points in their conference game. A pretty unlikely thing and doesn't happen very often. They looked great doing it. It's not just that they scored a whole bunch of points. They ran the Cardinals the F off the field. I mean, the Cardinals did not belong on that field.

Carson Palmer, I mean, how's Carson Palmer come back from that? He doesn't. He's going to be on this podcast next year with us. Our buddies at Football Outsiders said it was, by DVOA standards, one of the great player performances in the history of the postseason. The analytics support it. So people have been banging the hell out of Carolina. The line opened at four, and it's up to six now.

Over 80% of the money, and there were some books that were the money on spread, but it was all the way up to the 90% range on Carolina, and that's how we're at six. And there's some thought it might go up to six and a half. Nobody thinks it's going to go to seven in the things that I've read. But, you know, the phenomena of the most recent, you know, what did I just see? Carolina, it passes the eye test with flying colors over the Broncos. But.

So. Oh, no. but so oh no chicken parm I'm watching you that's great to privatize the teams with the better defense have won 40 of the past 49 Super Bowls.

Yeah. Teams leading the NFL in total defense, 9-2 in Super Bowl history, and that includes the epic, colossal brain lock mistake by Pete Carroll last year. He made it two losses for the teams leading the NFL in total defense. There's also a fun thing. Underdogs of at least 4.5 points getting less than 50% of spread

bets. And I just talked about how much Carolina is getting banged on this thing. 28 and 14 against the spread. That's nice. That's 67%. You know where I'm going with this. Are you taking chicken parm private ice? Chicken parm, you taste so good.

Joe House, pick of the week. I hope to finish 6-5 for the playoffs. I'm counting on Peyton Manning. I know exactly where that, where that puts me, but, um, I just, that, that, the, the old avid adage of, of defense winning championships. It's, it's, I just can't, I'm old now. I'm stuck on stuff like that. So Carolina, it's now five and a half. So you're taking Denver plus five and a half. Do you have a score for us? Sure. Yes, I actually do.

I like, well, you know, I don't have a score because I don't have a good feel for who I think is going to win. Yeah. Okay. So you're just grabbing the points. I just think it's going to be close. Grabbing the points. Yeah. 24-20, Denver covers. Carolina wins, Denver covers. Yeah. 24-20. Denver covers. Carolina wins. Denver covers.

Interesting. So, I am taking the Denver Broncos as well. Oh! Yeah. For a couple reasons. You taste so good! That wasn't very good, Private Eyes. I kind of enjoyed it.

The nobody believes in us factor is at an all-time high. All time. Everyone thinks Carolina's going to win. This is a two-week camp coronation. Denver's lucky to be here, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And Denver's defense has a ton of pride. Wade Phillips said it's the best defense he's ever coached.

He seems to believe in the defense. And here's the thing. With all due respect to everything the Panthers have done this year, and Cam has been incredible, the kind of offense they have is the kind of defense that Denver should be able to shut down. I watched them do it with the Patriots, right? Those short passes they swallowed up.

They were able to, I thought, really cover Gronkowski effectively for most of the game. He finished with 144 yards, but the last two catches were the 50-yard Hail Mary in the double coverage. Fourth and ten. And that was after they lost their safeties. And then at the end of the game that incredible catch in the end zone

that it seemed like he was out of bounds but he wasn't for the most part they took him out of the game and I thought they had Edelman under wraps they just did a really nice job I think the disruptive effect of the speed of

Denver's front four and the fact that Carolina just hasn't seen a defense like that this season. There's no analog for this for them. They can't say, oh, we saw a defense like Denver in week six, and this is the way we schemed it, and this is the way we handled it. And this was just proven out. We watched it. It was borne out by what we watched Denver do to the pass.

You have a game plan. You can come in. But until you're on the field and that speed, that upfield rush and the pressure and the pocket collapsing starts occurring, recurring, I don't think you can – the best laid plans – and the Pats tried to adjust. But the best laid plans, you just have to hope for the best. Well, and then they can also, we know they can get a pass rush going with a limited number of people. And they can pressure Cam and make him move around and make him have to make plays and rattle him and all that with four guys.

And they could just basically swarm the other guys. I also you know, Ted Ginn you know, he's got a big drop coming. Kachere. These guys like aren't, their skill position guys aren't great. Cam has made all of them I think a little bit better than they are

but when you look at, you know, they've been an amazing home team, right? They killed people at home. This is a great point. They were killing Seattle, and Seattle came back to make an interesting detail into the playoffs. They killed Arizona at home. Over the course of the regular season, killed Tampa.

I'm just going backwards. Killed Tampa by 28. Killed Atlanta by 38. killed tampa by 28 killed atlanta by 38 killed washington by 28 beat green bay they were up in the by 20 something and then uh they came back but you go backwards it's just they they were an awesome home team well on the road week 16 lost in atlanta week 15 almost lost to the giants. Giants had the big comeback week 13, almost lost to new Orleans one by three. They killed Dallas in week 12,

but that was because of the quarterback situation. They beat Tennessee. Everyone beats Tennessee. Seattle was close. Um, you know, the, I haven't seen the track record of them when they're not at home,

just rolling up the score. And then you throw in the fact that Denver's defense is going to be fired up. Nobody believes in us. We can beat Kim. We can get to him. Greg Olson's not going to beat us. We're going to make your other guys beat us, the whole thing. And then their history this whole season of playing close games that you watched and you thought how the hell is denver in this game the other team is dominating this game how is denver around why are they lingering and uh i just think this game's going to be close well look and then i didn't mention one more thomas davis i don't think i think he's going to be a non-factor. He's got a broken arm. He'll play for a quarter and he'll come out.

What about the team rallying around HGH Manning? I mean, he didn't even... No, they only mailed it to his wife. It wasn't Peyton. It just went to his wife's house. I just said HGH Manning. His wife's last name is Manning. Maybe they're rallying around her. Chicken parm.

You taste so good. You taste so good. You taste so good. And also, I can totally see him winning. I totally see Jim Nance covered in his own body fluids. I just can feel Sims the whole thing. So there's two ways to go with this game. I feel like it's similar to the Pats game two weeks ago, where I think I was right when i said this it's i covered my bases but either carolina just blows them out and manning throws

five picks and it's a disaster or denver wins the game or comes damn close and i and i'm i'm I think this feels to me like an ugly 16-15, 19-17, like just some sort of weird score, and it's below 20. And then Cam will have a chance in the last couple minutes to either win or lose the game for his team. I agree. I agree that that's exactly the scenario. I think that's what the game we're about to watch on Sunday. Clairvoyant Bill.

Yeah, we're due for one of those, right, with the Super Bowl? I guess, like, Seattle and the Pats is a good example of how a game like that could go. Just kind of ugly, some spurts, but for the most part, you know, better defense than offense. Well, it got super exciting for the whole fourth quarter yeah yeah and the pats ended up putting up two touchdowns and the whole thing but um but i could see that going this way and it just you know it sounds weird but i do feel like pulling out games and keeping

games close and making them ugly and just being able to find a way to win over and over again. That's a skill. That's their specialty this season. The Pats, whenever we had that streak with the 21-game winning streak, and all of those games, there weren't a lot of blowouts in those games. All of them were just kind of grinding it out. Somehow we won, making a play, being clutch. And at some point – Getting the pass interference. Phantom pass interference in the end zone.

Coming up big. At some point, it's a skill. And I think Denver has proven over and over again this season that they can win close games. We've been watching it for six months. You've got to give them credit at this point. Joe House, we both like the Denver Broncos

to cover a five and a half point spread. I'm going to pick the Panthers to win by two points. I like it. I had them at 24-20. What's your score? 19 to 17. Okay. Good one.

Yeah. All right. House, always a pleasure. We did it. We're done. Take care. Enjoy Rappaport. Talk to you next week.

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but not everyone in America does. No, they do. They do. And they'll be just fine. And if their kids hear me not everyone in America does. No, they do. They do. And they'll be just fine. And if their kids hear me swear, it'll enhance the... You know what? You'll get a bigger audience with the kids. The kids will be like, please turn that guy back on. So I might do some, I might not.

I'm going to control myself. But if it's an organic curse, I'll do it. All right. I'm going to take the first curse. How the fuck are you not in this OJ TV show on FX? Where are you? Where's your agent? Who's your agent?

Well, the who's my agent and where am I, that's a whole other discussion. You couldn't have played Robert Kardashian? They had to go with Schwimmer? You couldn't have put like a wig on with a little white streak in the front? With a little right? It's like the...

Juice! Juice! Juice, don't do it, Juice! Don't do it, Juice! Where are you? You know what the craziest thing, and this is what I heard, and then I actually got a copy of the audition tape, is Courtney B. Vance, who's playing Johnny Cochran. That could have been your role?

No, no. But they were, you know this whole diversity thing in Hollywood? Originally, Danny Aiello was going to play it. Johnny Cochran? Yeah. Get out of here. No, he was. Hollywood originally Danny Aiello was gonna play it Johnny Cochran yeah and get out of here no he was and and his audition was going good and and but the audition was like that fucking glove doesn't fit on these fucking hands if it don't fit you must acquit you cocksucker you and he had to part until he threw that in there, because

then he started saying, that black glove doesn't fit on these fucking hands, and they were like, he doesn't say that, and he insisted on doing that way, and that's the reason why Danny Aiello is not playing Johnny Cocker, and Courtney Vance is doing a good thing, but you know, they were trying to diversify the cast. I thought you easily could

have played any of the cops, I think, because I don't even know who played Mark Furman You could have played Mark Furman To be honest I did get a phone call about Mark Furman The truth has been revealed You're right about that But he's very waspy looking You've already played

Can we call Mark Furman a racist or he just made racist comments Both You did that in Higher Learning Yes I already did that so so i mean but i actually did get a phone call about that because i saw a picture of him but i knew they wanted more of the the the the uh you know he's more uh you know um he's a shiksa he's a shiksa i felt i think you're left out you got left out because the greatest thing about this oj show and the thing i enjoyed the most is that it's basically a pop culture cornucopia canvas of the last 25, 30 years.

You have Ross from Friends playing Robert Shapiro. Not a great part for Ross. I feel like, and Schwimmer's a good actor. Not a great part. And he's got the, who was the actor? Who was the soprano's, the Walnuts, Paulie Walnuts. He's got the Sopranos? The Walnuts. Paulie Walnuts. He's got the Paulie Walnuts streak.

That could have been you. That could have been me. You got him. You have Malcolm Jamal Warner as A.C. Cowling. Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how that plays. You have Cuba as O.J. You have Rod Tidwell as O.J. Simpson. You have John Travolta as Robert Shapiro. You have Cheryl Ladd

As Robert Shapiro's wife I didn't notice that I didn't catch that I was too mesmerized by Shapiro and Travolta And when it goes to pop culture Like you know we've talked about Stallone Travolta He's right in there with me

40 years of Travolta Welcome back Connor Boy in the plastic bubble Boy in the plastic bubble Travolta's, he's right in there with me. It's 40 years of Travolta. Saturday Night Fever. Welcome back, Connor. Boy in the Plastic Bubble. Boy in the Plastic Bubble. Vinnie Barbarino, Tony Manero, and Grease. But Tony, after Tony Manero, it was a wrap for me. Like, I love him.

I think he was the big winner with Grease Live. Because the guy who played the Travolta part, it made me think, like, we'll never see another Travolta. No. It's like Michael Jordan. I totally agree. He's the best grease lead ever. Period. You can't duplicate what he did.

He had the looks. He could sing. He could dance. He loves to sing and dance. And I mean, John Travolta, it's a guy you sort of take for granted. And he's up there. He's a little bloated. Listen, Travolta, I'm saying this from the bottom of my heart.

You're 60 something. Yeah. Forget the hair. If you don't have hair, you're still John Travolta. I love it. Every movie or TV show, he has a different hairdo. It's great. It's not even the movies.

Every time you see him, like when he's in real life, he has a different hairdo. Did you see the movie he made with De Niro where Travolta's like a Russian? Yes. I forget the name of it. It was horrific. It's almost like he had a toupee, but it blended into a beard. It was like he just put it on all at once. It was like a toupee with a chin strap. Yeah, it was like when my son plays with Legos and you can put different heads of hair or something on the Lego characters.

So you're digging it. I love it. I don't mean to bring up ESPN. Oh, please do. But the 30 for 30 that was made, what was it, June 4th? June 17th, 1994. That is, we want to talk about the OJs. That was the best thing.

That was the best. That was a fantastic documentary. Thank you. Rod Tidwell. Yes. As OJ oj yes i was thinking i'm sure perfect casting first choice i guarantee guarantee he's like five seven no i know the physical size he's not that somebody with size the physical size was the only thing but but the essence of who cuba gooding is i guarantee you he was the first choice the essence of who he is and the kind of actor he is and the way he looks and the way he's looked at in Hollywood, I guarantee you he was the first choice they went to. So I would have gone with Dennis Haysbert nine years ago.

Dennis Haysbert. He's too old now. But Dennis Haysbert nine years ago should have been the juice. I need the size. Yes, I agree. I think Morris Chestnut. Sean Fantasy suggests that. That would have been a nice one.

Somebody with some size. Yes, but Chestnut is diesel. He's ripped, but he's not that physically big. Like, OJ looked like he's probably like 6'3". He was the juice. He was the juice. 6'2". You need the giant head.

Giant head. OJ had the biggest head of anyone who, like, other than the three years when Barry Bonds had a giant head. Yes. OJ had the biggest head anyone's ever had. Right. And what about this thing about the CTE guy saying that he thinks he would bet his license that the real OJ absolutely has CTE? I've been on that corner for five, Kloserman and I were talking about that in podcasts like five years ago. Were you really?

Oh, he's the most obvious CTE case ever. And those fucking, sorry, those helmets that he played with, Tonka toy helmets. Talk about like, you know, I mean, he didn't even have a face mask. He had like the one bar, two bar face mask. And he was playing with a helmet that they sell at like Target for like a Halloween costume. In Ezra Edelman's giant documentary about OJ for ESPN, which is apparently great. I can't wait. Apparently, his head was so big even back then that in those Tonka Toy helmets, they had to remove the padding from the helmets to fit his giant head in there.

Really? Yeah. They talk about that? Yeah, I think so. Do you still watch ESPN? You know, I don't like the sports talk shows. What do you watch for sports talk shows? I just don't care.

That's why we have the internet. I hear you. I hear you. You know that. I watch PTI. I still love Tony and Mike. Probably now. At one point, it was every day.

But probably twice a week, three times a week, people ask me, the last time you were on Simmons and you brought up the now famous Zapruder Simmons tape that he cut out of the podcast, what did he say? The lady in the umbrella. People ask me all the time. Yeah. And now I'm starting to charge people. Shots coming from the second house. Oh, I make up shit.

I'm like, listen, I'll tell you what he said. Yeah, you should. Make up stuff. Take liberties. What do I get from this? Take liberties. I'm not going to just tell you, like, what do I get? Take liberties from it.

I'm glad we didn't talk about it, though. When we're on a podcast together, I like the focus to be on us, not the past. Absolutely. I look forward. I hear you. I hear you. I get it. With that said, I love reliving the past with OJ because that was one of the—I've written

about it. I have a big column in it from 2004 in my ESPN.com archives, which haven't been destroyed yet. That was one of the last great pre-internet moments. written about it i have a big column in it from 04 my espn.com archives which haven't been destroyed yet um that was one of the last great pre-internet moments and i still think that friday night during the next game which you might have been at that next i wasn't at it i was watching it in my mom's house going what when they were cutting back and forth to the oj chase is was like the jfk assassination moment for the 90s where everyone remembers where they were when that happened absolutely and when it clicked on and like yo what's happening i remember who i watched that The JFK assassination moment for the 90s where everyone remembers where they were when that happened.

Absolutely. And when it clicked on. And like, yo, what's happening? I remember who I watched that game with, what house I was at. Me too. What our plans were for that night. Yep. And the fact that, wasn't OJ in the small screen and then while it kept going on, then OJ was- They did that a couple times, yeah.

And the Knicks were just like, it was a foregone thing. Yeah. That was such a fun i was in connecticut i was dating somebody at that point but i spent a lot of time in connecticut hot yeah okay um we don't want to get wacky but i'm just saying remember the tri-state area 94 yes you're the knicks You had the Rangers Yup You had the OJ thing Yup You had Mike and the Mad Dog Taking off Yup

It felt like It felt like a summer You know Like how the blackout summer In the 70s Yes Whenever they made Summer of Sam

Yes The Bronx is burning Take the call Take the call Who is it? No that's alright My bad Who is it?

You got scotch tape On your phone? No I have Is that scotch tape on your phone? No, I have. Is that scotch tape holding the phone together? I have the iPhone, but I have the BlackBerry for emails, and I keep dropping the BlackBerry, and it's breaking, and I'm not getting another one. You really have scotch tape? Because I have holes in the BlackBerry.

But there's scotch tape on it. I know. You're Bill Simmons. There's a place down the street. You break it, we fix it. Six, seven, they'll probably give you a discount. I also have a dent in my car I haven't fixed. That I can understand, but you have a phone with duct tape on it. That's, they'll probably give you a discount. I also have a date in my car I haven't fixed. That I can understand, but you have a phone

with duct tape on it. That's not duct tape. That's literally, you have scotch tape on your BlackBerry. I know. It has holes. I don't want it to get ruined. All right. So anyway, the OJ. I love it. I can't wait for

I'm enjoying it. The chick who's playing Marsha Harden. Is it Marsha Harden? Marsha Clark. Marsha Clark. Marsha Harden. She's the best one. Sarah Paulson. Killing it. for the i i'm enjoying it the chick who's playing marcia harden is it marcia harden marcia clark marcia clark marcia harden's the actor she's the best one sarah paulson killing it from studio 60 matt perry's greatest uh achievement yeah killing it remember how good matt perry was in studio 60 yes that was it that was supposed to be his career year and then amanda pete got pregnant and the whole show went sideways and and he hasn And he hasn't Did they cancel the Odd Couple? You want to talk about casting?

They canceled like five Matt Perry shows But they had the Odd Couple on CBS You want to talk about like You were mad you weren't cast? God damn right I was Oscar Madison They got Matt Perry playing I like Matt Perry

I did Friends And no disrespect to him Yo but when they cast Matt Perry To play Oscar Madison and I'm sitting at home twiddling my dick. I'm thinking, and I'm like,

of course this is going to get canceled. Oscar Madison? First of all, they shouldn't even touch that. Huh? I thought he played Felix. No, he played Oscar. That's a terrible idea.

That's what I'm talking about. It's crazy. I mean, Oscar Madison? Terrible. You've been, you got left out of some things that would have been great for you you know and then i got some things that that are great i can't complain i can't complain you know copland you got sly stories you found out burgess meredith was a stick man a a a real stick man like a real stick man like uh no in in sly's word, you know, Burgess was a legendary stick man. Right.

A legendary stick man. No, a world class stick man. That's what he said. I was thinking about you. He's winning the Oscar. I was thinking about you during the Globes because Sly was there who told you the Burgess Meredith story, but also Leo was there who's this generation's world class stick man. He's in a different level.

Yeah. Whatever Burgess did, whatever Warren Beatty did, Leonardo DiCaprio has topped records. Whatever Jack Nicholson did in his prime in the 80s and the early 90s, Leonardo shut it down. He's like a tree man. He's a tree man. And he's like an assassin. He's in and out, and there's no complaints, and there's no lawsuits, and no one's blowing him up on Twitter and there's no dick pics. He's got it down to a science.

He's got it down to a science. That is true. He's got it down to a science. Leonardo DiCaprio, he is... It's like how Lance Armstrong was the greatest cheater ever with PEDs. Just nobody could catch him. Leo, same thing for being a stick man.

Yeah, and now I see some of these hipster manifestos saying, why is Leo only dating young girls? Because he can, you dumb fuck. Don't hate the player. Like all these hipsters are like, why is 41-year-old Leo, whatever he is, only dating hot models who are 25, 26?

Listen, you could say what you want to say. You're a married man. You're happily married. But anybody who could be living that life and doing it where people aren't even angry at you, they would be doing it. I don't give a shit what you say. We talked about this the last time,

but the amazing thing about Leo is now that he's in his 40s, and he's still out at these clubs, you don't leave the club until 3, 3.30, 4 a.m. after you've picked whoever your friend for the night's going to be. Friends. You got to go back to somebody's house or Leo's house. Now it's like 4.30. You got to make everyone drinks.

You're not really getting down to business until 5, 5.15. Now you're up until 8 in the morning. Leo's a vampire. He's definitely a vampire, but he makes an appearance occasionally. Leo could fly fish off his house, off the balcony of his house, and have that same thing. I mean, Leonardo DiCaprio's on a different level. He's on a different level. As a stick man, as a coxswain, he's on a different level.

Do you think if Leo had bought the Playboy Mansion, that would have been the all-time, I'm laying it down as the world's premier tree man ever? He's beyond that. He doesn't even need to do that. I think that would be too obvious. Like as a second house. Like an office.

I'm going to make this my office. Just owning this. That would be cool. And he'll keep Hef in business. Yeah, I'm going to have some parties every once in a while. We're going to get Hef on that Lamar Odom and see what he's still made of.

See if he's still got it. What do you got for me on my Knicks? You wanted to talk about Cam Newton, so let's talk about that. You have some Cam Newton thoughts. Well, they turned the Super Bowl press week into they're trying to create a fucking race war. I know. It's disgusting.

Barkley was on my pod last week and predicted this. He was here? Well, no, he called in, but he predicted it. He was like, I see where this is going. This is terrible. I don't know why they're doing it. Like, he did the whole thing. And it was what happened.

They're trying to create it into a show. And I like... Listen, I love Cam. I don't think he needs to dance every first down. You get into the end zone, do your thing. I mean, if I had the ability that Cam Newton did, I wouldn't just be dancing. I would strip naked and run around

the field but you don't have to do it but aside the dancing and all that shit yo he's a great looking guy he's articulate he's charismatic he plays the game like it's never been played he's 6'6 260 and and and he doesn't mind being black you know what i mean like he's not making excuses for for being black and like they're turning this what I mean? Like, he's not making excuses for being black. And, like, they're turning this into this whole, like, he's not, like, explaining himself. He's comfortable with who he is. I've never seen somebody so comfortable. Like, he's, like, praying and, like, you know, talking to himself before he snaps the ball.

Like, he's, like, in a different planet. But here's my question. Who's making the counterargument to that? The media, the people that are asking the counter argument to that? The media. The people that are asking the questions. All these polls. Do you mind him dancing? ESPN. Not my people.

I'm just saying. But they're saying some people take these polls. Do you not like him because he's this? Because he's black? What the fuck are we talking about? What are we talking about? He's got a better personality than Tom Brady and he's probably better And it's like, what the fuck are we talking about? I mean, what are we talking about? He's got a better personality than Tom Brady, and he's probably better looking than Tom Brady. Your guy, Tom Brady, and his chin.

Tom Brady's got a great chin. Tom's got a great chin. Tom's got a great chin, but he's got no personality. He followed Leo. That takes a lot of self-confidence. And some very handsome looks. Yes, he followed Leo. I'm going to marry Leo's old girlfriend. And don't think Leo wasn't trying to get her back at some point there. No. Yes, he followed Leo. I'm going to marry Leo's old girlfriend.

And don't think Leo wasn't trying to get her back at some point there. No. No, he was. He don't do that. No, he did. He did try to get her back? That's what I read in Us Weekly. Okay, well, then it's true.

That's like better than Wikipedia. Stars are just like us. Yeah, it's like better than Wikipedia. They get coffee. Do you have a Wikipedia page? I'm sure I do. Do you know that my Wikipedia page is now saying that I'm a Jewish Mexican? You are?

That's what it says. Anything can go on. I thought Wikipedia was like where you go for information. That's why I haven't looked at my Wikipedia pages in like six years. Because the last time I went on it, it had like three things. I was like, oh my God, this is going to drive. I can never come back. Why do people go to Wikipedia for facts?

Anyone can change it and edit it. But why is it still considered legitimate? I'm surprised. Whenever I show up somewhere, they have my Wikipedia. Somebody was like, I didn't know you were a Mexican Jew. What are you talking?

It's on your Wikipedia page. But back, what were we talking about? It could help your Oscar chances now that they're going to embrace diversity. Diversity. You should say. You should say you're a Mexican Jew. I could at least, you know,

they shitted on Aiello to play Johnny Cochran, you know, and I don't think it's right. You know, because the diversity, the pendulum, what is it called, the pendulum? The thing? Pendulum? Yeah, the pendulum. The pendulum?

Pendulum. It swings both ways. Yeah. Okay? It swings both ways. Back to Cam, though. Yes. So the case you laid out

About why people And why the media It's race But doesn't It's race Would Cam even crack The top ten The stuff he does

In football games It wouldn't even crack The top ten of things We see in NBA games And everybody loves NBA players It's cause it's a quarterback No one says shit

When Aaron Rodgers Does his discount Double check Pump pump Wasting Which he stole From He didn't even create That thing Right no one says shit when aaron rogers does his discount double check pump pump wasting which he stole from uh he didn't even create that thing right he stole it but no one no one said a word when aaron rogers does his thing and and no you know and but cam noon because he's a quarterback

he's a black quarterback they don't like it they want him to keep they want to keep him in his place and and the the race thing is so visceral and and and people want to act like you know race isn't an issue until it's an issue and and i feel like right now race in sports and race in the country and it is is more vibrant and and right right at the surface than it's ever been in my lifetime like there's so much stuff going on there's so so many, you know, with the police and all this stuff. I mean, the Cam, what's going on with the press conference is a disgrace. If I was Cam Newton, you ask me this question, this is what I say. Kids, cover your ears.

You say to me, why do you dance? I go, why don't you suck this dick? And then they say, excuse me, I said, why don't you suck this dick? Like, I mean, but he wouldn't do that because he's not me. Just like he wouldn't run around the arena naked. But it's like, you know. He wouldn't do that. He wouldn't do either of those things.

But it's like, at some point, it's like, yo, you got to be like, yo, what are you talking about? But he's just, he's got it all figured out. And that's why he's Cam Newton. But I'm like, send Aiello in one day to answer his questions for him. Like, he's just handling it perfectly. But Aiello should be in there answering his questions. Why did you pick Aiello and not Paul Sorvino? Was that a coin flip on the way to my house? No one screams and curses like Aiello does.

That voice. So Spike Lee in Best Seed of the House, which is a really good book. I recommend it. It's probably on Amazon. Spike's a big basketball fan He is? I have a tortured history with his movies But Well he's actually a fan of

The game He's not just a Knicks fan No he's a big Huge Supposedly When Ralph Wiley used to write his ESPN.com way back He had this character called the Road Dog

That he would talk to And that was Spike Lee Oh Yo Spike is So if you go back and read those ralph wiley comms the road dog is spike lee but so it doesn't get any bigger than spike lee as far as a nick's a basketball fan so spike in that book made this whole case about how hoosiers and rocky are both racist sports movies and it's like insane here's the white hero. And now here comes like the Apollo Creed, the black guy, and Clubber Lang, the black guy.

And then in Hoosiers, it's like, here's this ragtag group of white kids from the middle of nowhere. And then they make the final game. And it's South Bend High. And they have a bunch of black kids. That ain't racist. Yo, Rocky's the underdog. And then it's like the white kid's got to beat the black kids.

And he kind of ruined it. 99.9%. He ruined Hoosiers for me by like 8%. Well, I've never been with you because I know I think Hoosiers is your favorite sports movie. We've talked about that. It is, but it spikes in my head now with Hoosiers a tiny bit. Like the black coach on South Bend High has got a four-point lead with no shot clock and a minute to go. And it's like running plays.

It's like just dribble the clock out, dude. Yeah. It's like, thank God the white coach knew what to do and, hey, we're going to run. No, no, go to Jimmy instead. And the white coach always came through, but the black coach kept screwing up. I don't look that far into it, but, yo, listen. I'm just saying Spike made me think. He's a thinker, not a stinker.

To quote Apollo Creed and Rocky, be a thinker, not a stinker. To quote Apollo Creed in Rocky, be a thinker, not a stinker. Yeah. How do you feel that... Count to Montefisto. How do you feel that Sylvester Stallone is going to win the Oscar for essentially Rocky VII?

I cried when he won the Golden Globe. Literally, I had tears in my eyes. I cried and then I cried a second time when he didn't thank Ryan Coogler or Michael B. Jordan. That was a mistake. But here's the thing. He's old.

He is old. He's old. He's like almost 70. It wasn't intentional. He's just an old person. It's like when my dad can't find his car keys for an hour and a half.

No different. Yeah, I agree. So he'll thank them this time. First, off the top. Coogler should have been nominated. I don't agree. I don't agree. The fight scenes were incredible.

The fight scenes were incredible. I think, but traditionally the Oscars don't nominate pop culture films. They're like, why don't agree I don't agree the fight scenes were incredible the fight scenes were incredible I think but traditionally the Oscars don't nominate pop culture films like they're like why don't they nominate Star Wars

they don't do that it's a pop just like NWA as good as I love Straight Outta Compton it's a pop culture film and I loved it but I just don't think

it was worthy of an Oscar I feel like the guy who played EZ could be in consideration for best supporting actor and I think the screenplay it got nominated but as far as the best film I don't agree I feel like the guy who played EZ could be in consideration for Best Supporting Actor. And I think the screenplay got nominated.

But as far as the best film, I don't agree. It's too long. I just watched it again. Did you watch the long version? No, I didn't see the director's cut. It's like almost three hours, right? But I watched that just because of the information in there. It needed to be 15 minutes shorter, but I'm not sure what should have been cut.

I agree. I agree. But I loved it and I'm looking forward to watching the director's cut just to see what other stuff is in there. You know what's amazing

about Straight Outta Compton is that you had these three parts and you had to nail all three for that movie to work. Yep. And they cast three people

that I'd never heard of and all three of them were awesome. Kicked ass. Like really great. Really, really good. So like the Biggie movie the Biggie guy was good he wasn't great yeah um but i never felt like he was biggie like these guys in nwa i felt like these were the guys i felt like the biggie movie it was too soon it's like

like like the worms hadn't you know hadn't died in the casket no disrespect to biggie but it was like he died let's make a movie It's like, let some time pass. Yeah. Like, everybody's so quick to, like the Steve Jobs movie, as much as I like that, but it's like,

as soon as he died, they're like, production has started, like they were waiting, you know, for, you know, let some time

and some perspective come. Straight Outta Compton had three or four just great scenes. Great scenes. The scene, the Detroit concert, which she, you know, anyone who knows anything about that band,

they're waiting. That's going to be the big scene in the movie, and it just delivers. It's great. But the No Vaseline scene was great. Even the opening with Eazy-E going and breaking out of the house. That was really good. And when he first did...

Oh, and the scene when they all get accosted on the sidewalk by the cops and that leads to F the police. Great. There was some really emotional stuff and when you see EZ struggling, I mean, it was really good. It was really, really...

Way better than I thought it was going to be. Way better than I thought it was going to be. I was going to enjoy it no matter what, but it was so much better. I was shocked. The emotion in it was really good. Where'd you stand on Giamatti? I thought he was good. I thought it was a little

a little Jewed out. And I'm Jewish. I thought it was a little bit like, you know, it was very sort of Bernie Madoff. It was Bernie Madoff. But Paul Giamatti's a great actor, but I think it was okay. I think it was okay. Okay. I'm not gonna say,

I'm not upset that he didn't get nominated for an Oscar. Did you see Beasts of No Nation? No. You didn't see Beasts of No Nation? It's one of the screeners I didn't, I never watched it. You got a 96-inch TV here in the Bill Simmons studio. That's a big-ass TV. Yeah.

You need to watch Beasts of No Nation. It's good. Because there's a- Stringer Bell's in it. Stringer Bell's in it. Stringer Bell's in it, he kicks ass, and there's a guy, if you've seen, people who've seen Beasts of No Nation, some people caught this or some didn't, but during one of the fight scenes, there's a guy, talk about a special consideration for an Oscar, who's running

down the street naked with a fucking spear in his hand. I want to find that actor. He needs to get some sort of special consideration. Butt-ass naked. First of all, if I'm going to fight somebody, if I'm in a war, and there's a guy running at me, I'm not saying with a loincloth. I'm saying loaf swinging in the air. Yeah.

I don't want a piece of that guy. Terminator style. Schwarzenegger, remember? But, yeah. Schwarzenegger 1, it's like I'm just breaking my dick out This guy was breaking it out So that guy, Beast of No Nation Idris, you were great, the kid's fantastic

But that actor, I don't know who he is I don't know if he ever acted before I want to talk to that guy and I want to give him a trophy Great Fassbender move too, in Shame I think he fluffed himself a little bit though He probably gave himself a little Like a know, like a little de-antler. Like a half fluff. Yeah, a little half fluff.

A little tap. Of course, you got to tap it. Make sure everything, you know, get the blood circulating. Maybe someone on the crew touched it a couple times and you're out. No, you got to. A couple of times. Trust me, he did. Extra liter of blood down there.

Yeah, just give a little something. Yeah, no question. A little something. You've never been naked in a movie, have you? No, I mean, no. How many sex scenes have you been in a movie two or three uh sex i don't know sex make out not much bill you try to make me feel bad like i mean i know i always wondered when people you know you're fake humping somebody that it's not it's not anything that you you know it's very uncomfortable have you people

around what's the best boner story you've heard from like one of your buddies who's in a scene and just popped on it's really an overrated thing i i it's not really something that happens that much okay um because there's so many people around i think maybe i'll be honest with you because it's the bill Simmons podcast. Thank you. Okay, and you're that guy? Yeah. And how many people are listening? How many people listen to each podcast?

This one will probably be like 500, something like that. I thought it was like 500,000? Yeah. Okay. All right. We're headed toward 30 million listens. That's what I'm talking about. Like four months. Okay, so I'm going to give you this because you're that guy.

Yeah. And you know, I get hyped up. You gave me Stickman last time. I gave you Stickman. I gave you Lativian Gangbanger. Yeah. That's spread all over the world.

Yeah. When I was doing, I'm going to say this now. I've never, I was ashamed of myself. And this was, you talk about boners. Okay.

When I was doing Beautiful Girls, the scene with Uma Thurman this is uma thurman in her prime when you're dancing when i'm doing the dance scenes with with uma thurman yellow wood i didn't get well the wood ain't little when i get the wood bill i just want to clarify that right now i bricked up real proper and it wouldn't go down because we were dancing and you know we're rubbing up against each other i'm like holy shit it's uma thurman like she's six feet like a true six footer yeah and she smelled good her hair was never looked better than that movie sick the whole ad campaign was just about how hot she was yeah the whole ad campaign was about how and so i'm dancing with her and i get like i get to

kiss her and la la la la la and i'll actually I have a photo of that scene. And I'm like up on her, like the set photographer. And your butt's sticking way back. And then I had to move away from her. Yeah. Because I was like, if Uma Thurman feels my hard loaf against her while we're doing take nine, she's going to be mortified. Like, it's embarrassing. Or maybe that's what her goal was the whole time. Nah.

Maybe she made a bet with somebody on the crew. She wanted to get out of there as fast as she could. I mean, when we were doing the dancing of Beautiful Girls, I... Is that why Martha Plimpton was so horrified at the bar? It wasn't for this scene? Thank God I had a long flannel shirt on. Yeah. Thank God it was the 90s.

Nowadays, you'd be wearing some nice tight t-shirt and you wouldn't be able to hide anything. But I've never admitted that to anybody. That's great. And I know you love beautiful girls. I do. It was horrifying. And I was like, yo, because she was so beautiful and she had beautiful big breasts. One of the things we're going to do when we finish building our podcast studio.

Okay. Is what? Which is going to be covered with vintage HBO posters, which I've been quietly accum studio. Okay. Is what? Which is going to be covered with vintage HBO posters, which I've been quietly accumulating. Okay. What's your favorite one so far? I found this one of the jerk

from like 1980. And it's like the jerk is coming to HBO and it's amazing. Damn. So you and I are going to watch Beautiful Girls in that studio. Let's do it.

And they're going to, I'm going to also make them get the rights to Beautiful Girls. Let's do it. And gonna do director's commentary i'm down yeah i'm it'd be good i'm so ready to talk about that movie and about my conflicted feelings about whether tim hunt was a pedophile or not okay in the movie oh i got you yeah i got you because now that i have a daughter who's within three years of natalie that is part of that movie and it's like if we had some dude living next door and all of a sudden my daughter's hanging out

with this creepy guy, I'd be like, what the hell's going on? Yeah, yo, my man. Beat it. What is this Winnie the Pooh thing you guys are talking about? You're doing poetry with my 13-year-old daughter? Can you get away from my daughter

before I call the police? Yeah, take a hike. Yeah, why are you so interested in my daughter? Are you married? You think she's cool and interesting? Yeah. And you're talking to Mo about what you're going to wait five years until she's 18? First of all, I'd show up at his house with a baseball bat and be like,

Hey, my daughter just told me that you guys were talking about him waiting for you until you turned 18. Yeah. So I'm going to hit you over this head with the bat now. And then I'm going to keep hitting you Until you stop breathing for about an hour Get the guy from Beasts of No Nation To show up at his door With a spear naked And be like yo

That's what you do if somebody's talking to your door Get that guy Oh that was an underrated part of Straight Outta Compton The Suge Knight character was incredible But when he's intimidating He's E.E. And he's intimidating Eazy-E, and he's like, I'm going to change you. Yeah, I didn't like that.

I was like, oh, no, that's like some 1999 HBO Oz shit. That's like one of those threats Adebisi would have made. Yeah, I didn't like that. I was like, oh, no. I mean, Suge Knight, it's like he's going to be played by multiple actors in multiple films, like how Al Capone gets portrayed. De Niro did it. Bob Hoskins did it.

Suge Knight. Yeah. When Jimmy hosted the AMA Awards in like 05 or 06. Kimmel? Yeah, I was one of the two writers. You got to say Kimmel. I'm sorry. Jimmy Kimmel.

Don't be afraid to drop names here. I'm doing it. I just said I had an erection during a scene with Uma Thurman. Drop names here. I'm doing it. I just said I had an erection during a scene with Uma Thurman. Drop names. We're running around because they're trying to do the show from different locations. So he does a monologue, and then there's musical acts. And I'm like, all right, Jimmy, go now into the crowd. You'll do this next bit, and some 2006 artist will be next to you,

and then run over here. So we're kind of running around this Nokia theater, which I think is where it was. And we're going to that. We come out of the crowd. We go up this back stairwell to go up to where the next spot is coming down. The stairwell is should night with two people. And for like a second and a half,

he was like, I don't know why these, he just had this look on his face. Like, I don't know why these people are in my stairwell and we're going to have to kill all of you. Right. The vibe. For a second and a half.

I hear you. And then he recognized Jimmy and he loosened up and you could see him. But I saw it. You felt that vibe. Oh, it's more than a vibe. Yeah. It's like my life's in danger. Yeah.

No, I. It's the same way like, you know, like when you. Dark energy we call that. Yeah. When you reduce anything to just animal instincts And just I'm in trouble I'm in physical danger I'm gonna die

I felt that for a second and a half I know exactly what you mean I was like oh my god I'm gonna die He's locked up now And I don't think he's coming out It was the most Menacing second half of my life. I hear you. I hear you.

Then again, I'm from the East Coast. I haven't had a lot of menacing moments. You haven't had a lot. Yeah, I went to prep school. I hear you. You're not used to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you.

It's a very sheltered life. I got you. I got you. Give me something on my knicks. Oh, yeah, let's talk about that. Then we have to go. Or the Lativian gangbanger as Rookie of the Year. Carl Anthony got him by a little bit.

How good is Porzingis? Towns, here's the problem. It's really hard to win Rookie of the Year if your team's going to go 19-63. Right. Right. 19-63. That's a problem. That's a problem.

Because Minnesota has now turned on their tank sign. Minnesota and Phoenix are both perfectly happy to be one of the top five worst teams. Because if Minnesota cared, they would have fired Sam Mitchell. He's a disaster. But Jeff Warneseck, he got... Well, I don't know what Phoenix is doing. Phoenix has been the worst-run team in the league for a year and a half now, other than the Devin Booker pick.

But they gave Tyson Chandler all that money. He's washed up. I think they gave him the money because he's a nice guy. It's a four-year, $52 million contract. I love you, Tyson, but he's got a good agent or something. I don't know what he's doing. They broke up the Bobsy Twins, though, which I thought

was cool. What are those guys' names? The Morris Twins. No, I call them the Bobsy Twins. They got the same tattoos. But that was terrible, though. They made them upset. So what? This is the NBA. You don't get to pick and choose.

Oh, we do. We get a contract together. I don't give a shit. It's a business. We're upset because we're on different teams. But they took less money to play together in the contract. It was a bad agent. They should have fired their agent.

Get Tyson Chandler's agent. And now we're trading you. I like Markeith. I would trade for Markeith. You're always sick. You've been on the pod three times. Three times you've coughed your way through the pod. No, I have a perpetual snort.

It's just called being Jewish. Go ahead. Talk. Break down the NBA. So Phoenix and Minnesota tanking. I don't think that translates to Rookie of the Year stuff. So I think for the zinger, if the Knicks can make a late little run here, and they blew it last night against the Pistons,

they're not very good is the problem with the Knicks. You know what it turns out? In a league where point guards are the king and perimeter play and pace and space and all this stuff, to have the worst point guards are the king And perimeter play And pace and space and all this stuff To have the worst point guards in the league Is a problem Sasha Vujicic And what's his name

Jose Calderon These guys all stink Jose Calderon's gotta go I want him to go back to What's the guy they had last year The pizza maker who's on the Clippers now? Oh, Pablo Preciado. Yeah, he's a pizza maker.

He makes a hell of a pizza. I mean, can we get a real... It's New York. Get a real guy in here. Well, all the Delusional Knicks fans are like, oh, Jeff Teague. We're going to get Jeff Teague. It's like, how?

How are you getting Jeff Teague? You have two assets. You have no first-round picks. Right. You have Carmelo and you have Porzingis. You have nobody else Atlanta wants for Jeff Teague. It's like, how? How are you getting Jeff Teague? You have two assets. You have no first round picks. You have Carmelo and you have Porzingis. You have nobody else Atlanta wants for Jeff Teague. We've been so abused that we think, like, we're so happy that this year isn't last year.

That's all we're happy about. Our expectation, it's an abusive relationship. It's an emotionally abusive relationship for Knicks fans. But this Porzingis, he's the real deal here. What do you see as the ceiling? What can he be?

I told you this when we did the pot in November. I was all in on the Zinger. The Zinger. I think he's one of a kind. Yes.

He's exactly who you want. You want a stretch five who can make threes, who spreads the floor for everybody, and who can protect the rim. And he can protect the rim. Block shots without jumping.

Yeah, he protects the rim. Literally. And the other thing I like about him is that when I watch him run, I don't feel like he's going to be out of the league in five years. I agree. Like, I really like Miles Turner in Indiana. Yes. I think he was a great pick at number 11.

But when I watch him run, it makes me nervous. I hear you. I know exactly what you're talking about. He kind of like, his feet, it's like he's wearing slippers. Have you ever seen me run? That's how I run. Right. And I've always ran like that. I don't like, you know, it's like when I watch Bo get run, I'm like, that guy's not going to be in the league in two years. When I watch Bynum,

when Bynum was around, it's like, oh man, I don't, the way he runs, I don't like it. Where is Bynum? But like, KG was always a gazelle. Always. Even now, KG's a hundred years old and like, you him running it's like that guy's built to just do this yes and i'm not sure um a lot of these guys like i like the miles turner type oh my god great body great athlete i think he's going places but when i watch him

run it makes me nervous poor zingas does not make me nervous i agree one of the big things carries his weight and height well i agree i agree One of the big things... Carries his weight and height well. I agree. I agree. One of the big things that I wanted... Because Drummond on Detroit is having a great year. And I want to give him a public shout-out

because he, in the beginning of the season, had so much hair on his shoulders. Yeah. And I think he decided to get it either lasered off or waxed. So I want to give you a shout-out. Congratulations on your season. And he to get it either lasered off or waxed. So I want to give you a shout out. Congratulations on your season. And he's also gotten braces and he got himself waxed.

And I want to say because it looked like he had like some sort of tattoo or burn and it was hair and he's fixed himself up. See, this is why the ESPN talking head shows where they talk about Cam Newton and they try to turn race into a story for seven days i'm so much more interested in lebron's hair andre dumb and andre german's shoulder hair or jeremy lynn's dumb ass haircut jeremy lynn's haircut poking somebody in the eye like this is the kind of stuff i want people talking about on my 24 7 shows i agree i don't just want to sit here and talk about what's the new this new term that the offensive efficiency where the fuck do they come up with this bullshit pr what is this every

year they come up with a new stat like it's like what does that mean no one knows what that do you even know what that means and you're bill simmons offensive he's the most offensively efficient guy and they already talk about i don't even know it's like an algebra equation and I'm so like I'm watching basketball here eating chips I don't want to I like when and I like a lot of the basketball stats

I respect the movement but like I don't need stats to tell me Steph Curry's the best shooter I've ever seen yeah I got it like I got it I don't need to know

what his percentage is from 28 I just don't care I already know and I don't need to that's why I watch basketball I like to form my own opinion sometimes and nobody's ever been a better shooter than him. Steph Curry today

versus Steve Nash in his prime. What happens? They just go crazy on each other? No Bruno. Crazy on each other. Steph's better. He's better. He can't guard him. The problem with the thing that

nash never had is steph just destroys defenses just by being on the it's almost like how randy moss on the 07 pats he's just on the field it just changes the defense right they're so worried about what he's gonna do and steph's the same way you even saw the 25 point game the other night in the in 25 in the first quarter, and the Wiz just had to change everything they had to do to stop it. It just opens up everything else. It becomes impossible to stop them. And he's barely sweating, and it's like he's lollygagging.

Like his disposition, he's so relaxed. He's so calm. Like I feel like they should make him start playing with his shoes untied. Like make it harder for him. Would you move the three-point line back? Do something. Or, like, make him shoot from the bench and he gets an extra point. Something.

Like, you've got to do something. And I don't think you can move the three-point line back because it'll only really work for him. But, I mean, the other day he made a steal versus the Wizards, and he could have went in for a layup. And he said, fuck it, I'm going to shoot a three. And he ate from five feet behind the three. So I have some people who have been asking me, why don't teams rough him up for him? My friend David Nyman asked me this.

Can you catch him? Why don't teams knock him around? Chris Paul is the most handsy. I think you've got to just be handsy and you've just got to annoy him and you've got to be touching him constantly and just touch him, feel him, push him. That's what Chris Paul paul did chris paul game 7 2014 remember clippers warriors game 7 secretly great game yes it was kind of the birth

of the warriors where things were going for them because they chris paul fouled him 58 times in that game but and he he just kept coming and curry finished with like 32 and i i think i was still on tv at that point i I think I went on. And whenever we were on TV the next time, I was like, that game showed me Steph Curry's going to be great. Because Chris Paul fouled him every single play in that game. They could have called all of them. They decided to call none of them. And he was mugging him.

And Curry just kept coming and coming and coming. I was like, that's what I needed to see. And that brute, Villa DeNova. What the hell is his name? Whatever the fuck his name is. Every time I think of his name, I think of Ed Pinckney and Villanova. Villanova? Villanova.

Yeah, whatever. He tried that crap last year, and he couldn't. It wasn't up to task. Remember, he was like the Jeremy Lin of the playoffs last year. I want to see. He looks like he has bad breath. Delved over? Yeah, just look at his breath. Because he's Australian?

Yeah, I don't know. Just something about him. He doesn't, you know, he just looks like his breath might smell like mayonnaise. That's just my instinct. So the Clips, who would play them in round two,

do not have the type of players to rough him around, except for Chris Paul. Chris Paul doesn't want to get too close to him anymore. And I love Chris Paul. Because he's that tail end of the prime. No, because Instagram. He just doesn't want to get too close to him anymore. And I love Chris Paul. Because he's that tail end of the prime. No, because Instagram.

He just doesn't want another incident. He doesn't want another incident. I know that that bothers. That would bother anybody. Every time they show Steph Curry for the rest of his life, one of the things they're going to show is him making Chris Paul fall, which I think is one of the most overrated things anyway. I think the whole crossover culture.

If you don't play defense, you only get quote-unquote crossed over if you're attempting to play defense. Me, I never got crossed over in my life. I didn't play defense. That's why I never was made to fall down. But if you're committing to D, that could happen. If the 92 Knicks played this Warriors team, in what game would Steph Curry be carried off the floor

on one of those stretchers like they use with the NFL where they have to strap him in and put the chin pad on? And you hope that he gives the thumbs up? Yeah, you're just hoping. Oh, he gave the thumbs up. Three. Game three. Game three in New York? Yeah, game three in New York.

Who does it? X-Man? X, Oak. Somebody's going to close line. How would they hurt him? Would it have been like they wait for him to shoot a three and X just goes underneath him like a D-back and takes out his legs? No, you come in and we're not trying to block your shot. We're trying to like Lawrence Taylor you. Like knock you on your ass.

Like bridge you. That's what would happen. Do you think Mason, Oakley, and X-Man would have gotten in an argument before game three of who got to hurt Steph Curry? Yeah, or why didn't you get him in the first quarter? Yeah. Like, yeah. Like a bounty? Oh, for sure.

Would Riley have put a bounty on Steph Curry? Absolutely. They would have done all this stuff, right? They would have done all that. But he's hard to catch. It's like Bieber in the celebrity game. I tried to get that little fucker. I'm sure you did.

I did try to get him. You did. You tried to get him for an hour. I tried to catch him. I tried to get that little fucker. I did try to get him. You tried to get him for an hour. I tried to catch him. I tried to catch him, and that's me with Bieber. And the thing about Curry, he knows all the tricks. People have been trying to knock him down. The way he looks and the way he walks all casually,

he doesn't brush his hair. He looks like he wants a blankie on the bench. Him in, what's his name, on the Spurs. Yeah. He doesn't brush his hair. He looks like he wants a blankie on the bench. Him in a, what's his name, on the Spurs? Yeah. What's his name? Tony Parker? No. Ginobili?

No. Kawhi? Kawhi. They look like they need, instead of giving him a towel on the bench, give him a little blankie. They could take a nap. Like, Kawhi looks like he should have a blankie. Kawhi is the league's best chance to step stuff in the playoffs

because I think it has to be somebody who's four or five inches taller than him. For sure. Somebody who has the length to catch up with the little. You just got to take him out. And I also think the Knicks would have. I think they would have ended Klay Thompson's career in that 92 series. They would have got him first game. Game one, yeah.

Just take him out. He's like the guy in the action movie. Just take him out. That would have been easy. Yeah, they would have got him right off the top he's just out and and x-mail would have draymond green wouldn't have been laughing and joking and like right he would have oakley would have sent his mom into a twitter spiral and i love draymond green oh yeah they would have shut that down well they they get so they get draymond into a fight where draymond has to be suspended for at least three games. For sure.

For sure. And now it's just Bogut Curry, who now knows it's like the purge. They know he's going to get shot at some point. Yeah, it's going to happen. Yeah. And then that's it. I think the 92 Knicks win in five. Yeah, that's it.

In five. That's it. They have nobody left for the next round. Right. But they win in five. That's it. And they've ruined the Warriors. And now the Warriors play basketball again.

Yeah. And Draymond Green is in an institution somewhere. Right now, and I have to get your, I'm sure you talked about it on the podcast. We got to go after this because we're out of time. Okay. Two things. Quick. Who wins the NBA Finals right now?

Everybody's playing. Everybody's healthy right now. And do you love seeing Kobe go off when he has flashbacks? I love it because I want them to pass Brooklyn to have more wins so Brooklyn would be in the number two spot for the ping pong balls. But Kobe looks

good at times. Kobe does look good. I mean, the last time we talked about this, it was horrific. It was sad. We felt bad. But we said he would flip the switch a few times. He looks decent now and he's rebounding. He looks good. But we said he would flip the switch a few times. He looks decent now, and he's rebounding. That's the thing. He looks good. Yeah, he looks good.

I think we're now in play for Kobe coming back for a year. Don't do it. I think we're in play. Don't do it. I think we're in play. I know. I thought about that, too, last night. He might be like, what the—

He might be like, I could do this for three more years, play 20 minutes a game for the Knicks. This ain't nothing. Yeah. Come in, just take over two eight-minute stretches per half and I'm out. Yeah. It looked good. All right. So right now, who wins a championship?

I still think the Spurs and the Warriors are dead even for me. Who win that series? Depends. I need to know who's healthy. I know it's a cop-out. No, right now. If I have a 100%- The man who comes back, what did he get?

A ball busted the other day yeah scrotal injury oh to stick it yeah there ain't nothing that's one of those we're not allowed to make fun of that yeah no not you just everyone because the karma of making fun of somebody else's to stick your injury yeah it's like i make it fun normally the internet be like it's like no no everybody was like hands off that was like one of the worst things like even the internet didn't get any on that. But he got a ball busted. It sounds like it, yeah. That happened to Carlton Fisk in 1975.

Foul tip, ruptured testicle. Broke his cup, ruptured it. Oh, man. Yeah. It's like the Suge Knight thing. Like, I'm going to change you. That's what that foul ball does when it ruptures his testicle. Man, that's not funny.

So I would say if I have a 100% healthy Spurs team, but I don't have home court, I don't think I can beat Golden State. They're tough, man. I need to get my home court, and I don't think they can get it unless somebody on Golden State gets hurt. The wild card is OKC because Doreen and Westbrook can just beat them. They're not going to. Beat who? They can beat anybody in this series. They ain't beating the Colts.

It's four games. You get four out of seven. You get two giant Durant games where they just win because he's unbelievable. You're going to get one great Westbrook game. So it's going seven. Yeah. And now I'm in a seventh game with Durant and Westbrook. You're right.

And, you know, I have the best player on the floor on Curry, but they have the next best two guys on the floor. That makes me nervous. Okay. So I got to get them out before game seven because I don't want to play Durant and Westbrook in a game seven. Yeah, no, I hear you. Dismant.

Because Durant's back. Durant is back. Durant's back. I've seen all I need to see. Durant is back. And talk about, like, you know, Westbrook is like, you can't stop him. He's like Uma Thurman in Kill Bill. Like, you thought he would.

Like, the guy's had so many injuries. At one point, like, he had, like, half his foot chopped off. He comes back. He doesn't miss a beat. Normal people slow down from injuries like that. It just happened. No, it's just, you said Uma Thurman. I thought he was a boner.

So it's time to go. You've ruined Uma Thurman. I thought he was a boner. So it's time to go. You've ruined Uma Thurman for me. I think of your boner now. Every time I hear Uma Thurman for the rest of my life, it's you pulling your body away from her so she doesn't feel your thunder. Yeah. Feel my thunder. No, I need to just ask you quick.

I'm sure you covered it. I didn't listen. Tyronn Lue and the whole fiasco and David Blatt, and they shitted on my man David Blatt. And they shitted on my man, David Blatt. Not that I gave two cents. They did. Tough. Israel has turned against the Cavs.

Oh, you don't want it. Do you follow those stories? Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Wait, Israel writing stories? Oh, Israel was all in on Blatt. Oh, I'm sure of that. Oh, yeah.

As the country actually wrote. Oh, yeah. There were stories about it. Oh, I didn't know that. About how the Cavs are out. Yeah, they're done with the Cavs. I didn't know that. They stabbed David Blatt in the. Yeah, they're done with the Cavs. I didn't know that. They stabbed David Blatt in the back, all this stuff.

I thought he did a bad job. If you can't figure out how to use Kevin Love, you shouldn't be an NBA head coach. There it is. You can't stick Kevin Love in the corner. No. Kevin Love needs to be in the mix. He needs to be on top of the key. He needs to be setting screens.

You got to post him up. Right. He's not a spot-up shooter. He's one of the best offensive players in the league. I agree. I agree. He averaged 26 a game. I agree. He shoots threes. He can post of the best offensive players in the league. I agree. I agree. He averaged 26 a game. I agree.

He shoots threes. He can post up. You have him in the corner. It's idiotic. And what is it with my man David Lee? He's done. But why? He's a good player.

Nah, it's over. My dad, Sage dad, my dad has had season tickets since 1974. Who wanted the David Lee thing As bad as anyone Reminding him of Cowens a little bit His favorite player It's like he's got no lift It's like his shot's getting blocked below the rim It's over

Alright Yeah Great teammate though Yes Great teammate My team needs to make a trade But I don't know what that trade's gonna be And what is that coach?

He's like 17 now? Brad Stevens Turned 18 Turned 18 Got hair in his balls six months ago It's good Yeah he's good It now brad stevens turned 18 team turned 18 got hair in his balls uh six months ago it's good yeah yeah he's good it's good all right uh anything to plug yo want to plug your podcast the i am rap report stereo podcast oh this is the bill simmons podcast and you're in a league by yourself but we're in stereo the i am rap podcast that sounds exciting you have an open

invitation i know you're the dave letterman a podcast you don't leave you know your your studio and all that stuff here but if you're ever going to be interviewed by somebody, don't be by one of these drip dry guys. You come over to me. I get you some coffee, whatever you want. We do it right. We ask the right questions. I ask, like, how many times a week do you shave, Bill? Because you look like you just came from a methadone clinic.

I say that with love and respect. I haven't shaved in a couple weeks. I know, but I'm just saying. Like, these are the questions that the people want to know okay but but other than that i'm happy to be here i'm looking forward to an exciting super bowl and of course an exciting all-star game we're leaving i'm gonna go 24 to 21 cam cam he can't he's he's an animal he's a beast teddy gin i call him Teddy Gin. Thanks for being here, buddy.

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I'm excited. Scorsese, Coke, rock and roll in the 70s. And how about David Simon's doing a 70s porn show? Yes. Yeah. No, it's going to be good. HBO. They know what they're doing.

They know what they're doing. All right. Enjoy the weekend. We about this bitch. Anytime y'all wanna see me again Rewind this track right here Close your eyes And picture me rollin'