The Bill Simmons Podcast - Ep. 61: Super Bowl 50 Hangover Edition w/ Cousin Sal

Episode Date: February 8, 2016

HBO's Bill Simmons and Cousin Sal break down all the triumphs and tribulations of SB 50 prop betting, and then discuss Denver's all-time defense (7:00), Cam's unraveling on the big stage (11:00), Simm...s and Nantz's new show (30:00), Von Miller's urine specialist (43:00), and whether Peyton Manning would be safe on the rides at Disney World (52:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:00 Super Bowl 50 Hangover Podcast. It's weird. We watched this game together yesterday. We spent like five hours together. Now we're podcasting. That was a good little group we had. We did. We had a little corner in our cousin's house that had Tony Kornheiser, comedian Jeffrey Ross,
Starting point is 00:01:19 our crazy friend Brad, Eric Emmerman from JKL, and a couple others. Our friend Nick Santoro, who found out. Oh, Nick Santoro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He went to the same high school at Kornheiser, and that was just a love fest for an hour, most of the second half. A lot of fun. Tony might have been over-served.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Oh, you think so? I think so, yeah. It was great. It was great. He wasn't even walking to the bar anymore. He was just snapping his fingers. He was. People were scurrying to get him drinks. It was great. He wasn't even walking to the bar anymore. He was just like snapping his fingers. He was. People were scurrying to get him drinks.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Good for him. So I picked the Broncos to cover, and I picked the game to go under. I had them to cover. I didn't fool with the under. But you were good. You stayed. You were very focused. I was.
Starting point is 00:02:01 You know what, though? I didn't have the balls to actually pick Denver to win. And that's my biggest regret of the whole thing. I picked Carolina to... I thought it was going to come down in the last two minutes. And then on Twitter, like an hour before the game, I picked Carolina to win by one in the last second. I wish I just said Denver.
Starting point is 00:02:17 I think that's our biggest win. Not having money on the Carolina money line. As all our friends did. And everyone we know did. I mean, it seemed so easy. You know as it came in you like all right well I like Denver and then you see the stats how many times you're going to see the stat Peyton Manning is the worst Super Bowl quarterback of all time look at the stats leading up how many times you're gonna look at the stat like okay both these defenses are great but the difference is a turnover. Carolina is plus 20 and Denver is minus four.
Starting point is 00:02:47 It's like, oh, man, this could be bad. But we did a nice job staying away from the Carolina money line. Yeah, we believed in the Denver defense. We believed in Carolina being a fantastic home team that we weren't totally sure about if they weren't in Carolina. And we believed in the freaking Denver team. I mean, even you in the second quarter yesterday, when it seemed like Carolina was getting a little momentum, you were totally ready to do the online in the moment gambling
Starting point is 00:03:14 to try to make a, you're like, oh no, they're going to make a run. And it's like, that's what Denver did for five straight months. They just pulled these games out. And you were watching them going, how are they doing this? I don't understand this. Peyton Manning had 12 straight three and outs yesterday yeah he 12 straight right 12 12 straight three and outs and they won the game and we were we were we were sitting there trying to figure out a has there ever been a worst quarterback performance dofer was pretty bad yeah i think they were worse brady br Brady in the first Super Bowl, the Pats won.
Starting point is 00:03:45 He did throw a touchdown pass to Pat in the back of the end zone. That first half was miserable. It was pretty bad, but he led the quick 40-second drive for the game. I mean, he did some stuff, but then the Broncos scored a TD, so it didn't matter. But we're sitting there, and Koenheiser's seen every Super Bowl, so we're like, has there ever been a Super Bowl where nobody scored a touchdown?
Starting point is 00:04:04 And he's like, oh, I think Super Bowl V. Offensive touchdown. Yeah, we were looking for it for a while. We were researching stuff. It was a really, really ugly game. You know, I don't mind the great defenses, and I do think we should talk about where this defense stacks in the annals in history.
Starting point is 00:04:21 But three of 29 third-down conversions, i just don't like that kind of game i don't like it it wasn't good somebody i saw this on twitter i can't my apologies to whoever said it um it felt like a thursday night football game oh interesting yeah did have that kind of vibe right fumbles and right fumble luck played a big part there are three fumbles the broncos got all of them which always helps. But that's what they did all year. They've had their D-backs were mauling the Denver receivers and they set the tone early and started getting away.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Sorry, the Carolina receivers started to get away with it. So yeah, from a defense standpoint, I think Baltimore's defense, like everyone always throws the 85 Bears as the example when they talk about the great defenses but i thought that 2000s ravens defense 2001 january yeah right yeah 2001 ravens that's the best defense of yeah but the ravens of this century i think were the best defense right i buy that i mean i i was picking against them all the way raiders championship game the whole thing like how are they doing this? They just killed teams. Killed teams. Steel Curtain.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Yeah, going way back. L.T.'s Giants. And then this one. Would you put, see, I wouldn't put Denver's D on that level. I think they're like a notch below. Because you remember, like, Pittsburgh with no Antonio Brown in Denver. Right. Really, we all felt like they should have won that game
Starting point is 00:05:45 in their fifth-string running back fumbles. But if Pittsburgh had even a decent running back who just holds on to the ball, they'd probably win that game. I never felt like anyone was winning in Baltimore. No one's breaking 20 against them. I know. I know the circumstances were weird and everything. How many did they have?
Starting point is 00:06:02 How many seven-point games defensively? I have this written down somewhere. Now I don't know what it is. So Carolina had four turnovers, but 11 games with giving up seven or fewer points for that defense. Pretty good. Well, and then Cam Brady and Roethlisberger.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I'd say three of the top five. Sure. Who are the other two? Rodgers and... Tony Romo. Who are the other two? Rodgers and? Tony Romo. Go on. Why not? But they held Cam Brady and Roethlisberger to 45 points.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Yeah. Pretty good. Yeah. And I think, how many touchdowns out of that? Probably the Pats, three touchdowns total in three weeks. Right. The thing that I was asking you, what defense was this dominating with just two guys rushing the outside like this? In this case, Miller and Ware.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And somebody said that we were with, said the Colts when they had Freeney and Mathis. And that was basically their whole defense. Denver's defense was better because their secondary was good too. Yeah. They were all over the place. I feel better about the Pats losing two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:07:06 You do? Brady getting hit. I was trying. You weren't getting mad. Like, you had a nice little thing because you picked Denver. I did. I put some money on Denver. You had some money on him.
Starting point is 00:07:15 You know, Brady's legacy versus Manning. Not that it was really in question, but, you know, it definitely doesn't take a hit right there. The guy that took the hit was the Pats offensive line coach who got fired the next day and then they did the same thing to carolina i wonder if he bet the broncos yesterday miller was unbelievable and what a shame you know look i i get how this is how mainstream sports media goes and manning's got to be the storyline but i just can't believe that down the stretch. And then right after the game,
Starting point is 00:07:48 that should have been all Von Miller. Von Miller was the best guy in the field and single handedly created 14 points. And yet they're interviewing Manning first. I know they have to, but if I'm Von Miller, it felt a little, what was that move?
Starting point is 00:08:02 Varsity blues. When, uh, the running back felt like john voight wouldn't wouldn't call them call him touchdown plays it would always go to the the white guy yeah but it did feel like everyone's talking about race with kim and it was like mom miller and demarcus swear just getting shoved to the side so the washed up white quarterback and got all the spoils of this game seemed a little off yeah i think mcmanus as we talked about
Starting point is 00:08:24 last week we talked about last week, we talked about, I hesitate to even say that anymore with Phil Simms, but he was second in line for MVP. I would say Manning was fourth or fifth. I don't even know where you put him. I mean, he had 60-something yards passing. Fourth or fifth. I wouldn't put him in the top eight.
Starting point is 00:08:41 In 55 minutes, I think he had like 80 yards passing. And that first drive, he had like 63 yards or something. We were watching this game in the top eight in 55 minutes i think he had like 80 yards passing and that first drive he had like 63 yards or something we were watching this game in the third quarter wondering why they were having him throw the ball at all right i thought when they got to 10 points i was like that's it like just run three times and hit and just do play action every once around just let your defense win this but we remember there was one possession it was the possession where he got stripped where and cornizer was like they can't have him throw right they just can't then he got stripped and we all went nuts but at that point i thought he could have done more damage than good they were
Starting point is 00:09:14 too big obviously the strip sack for the touchdown was huge yeah i also thought 16-7 they're driving they have momentum again overthrown off his hands tj ward picked off fumbles it yeah that was huge and they recovered their own and they recovered it and it's hard to believe as bad as the panthers were they're driving to win with 409 left at 1610 they turn it over yeah bizarre i think like with 10 minutes left, we were saying, Denver will go three and out, punt. Carolina will go three and out, punt. Denver will go three and out, punt. And Cam's going to have this ball with four minutes left and a chance to win the game with a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And that's what it was. It was awkward. But this TJ Ward quote was really interesting. He said afterwards, we didn't want the happy, fun-spirited, dabbing, dancing Cam. No. We wanted the sulking,king upset talking to my linemen and running backs i don't know what's going on cam right and that's what we got i like that so
Starting point is 00:10:12 they thought that whole last two weeks they thought they could hit cam get a couple drops get in his head and then he would kind of unravel and it did feel like he unraveled a little bit in that game we were watching him do the pre-game thing where you you know where you jump up and you meet hips with the other guy yeah we don't do that before podcast we try not to do that but he was doing that and he did that with every lineman and i don't know who else came through that tunnel like yeah you're gonna exhaust himself this cam dude and then the post well what about the national anthem they showed him and his like eyes were rolling in the back of his head he was in this weird i don't know man that's we were talking i was i drove tony back to a hotel and we were just talking about the super bowl and just
Starting point is 00:10:54 what a big stage that is right you know and it's it's one thing when you're in carolina and you're just whomping on these teams you're home and the fans are everywhere but you're at that game it really does feel big it's hard to explain unless you've you're at that game it really does feel big it's hard to explain unless you've been in a super bowl it really does feel you feel the magnitude everybody's there an hour before and there's no flow to it like those half times last forever and that's another thing how long did that first quarter feel for us for oh my god the first half was two hours yeah i remember when the pats the first Super Bowl I'd ever been to was Pats-Rams. And we're up 14-3 at halftime.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And you're just going crazy. And U2 comes out and they play a beautiful day. And then it was like 40 minutes or 35 minutes, whatever it is. And by the time they started playing it, I felt like it was a different game. Yeah, right. It was like a doubleheader or something. But it's just that game had no—none of these Super Bow super bowls have flow and it just seemed like cam could never get in the flow they dropped some big passes from him add to the yeah well add to the fact that there's no flow
Starting point is 00:11:52 that the two weeks off i think it hurt carolina yep denver got healthier everyone got healthier but i think the two weeks off hurt carolina and it did drop passes but what do you think of cam's big baby performance in the post-game press conference yeah you don't mind that i just know what i'm like yeah well that's not good either yeah that's not good that's why i'm always gonna defend people who are upset and cranky but but do you think it costs them millions like i think he can't be the face of the nfl because of that right there he's that this wasn't his first year this is his fifth year and you don't have to do a lot you can be
Starting point is 00:12:30 like aaron rogers you can be like tom brady and just deflect the questions and you answered you know how you have to well scorpions nick santoro made it made a great made a great point about this yeah he was saying 30 years ago when mark gaston was dancing after sax all right and everyone was reacting like mark gaston was a terrorist right right and people went crazy and it was the way he was treated and he was like so was that like a french canadian bias yeah because gaston was canadian it's like people just hate showboats and that's got to be a little people thinking that cam was showboating a little bit was most of i think what drove that i'm not sure it was yeah ratio to me that the von miller at
Starting point is 00:13:11 the marcus where just getting shoved to the side yesterday was was more egregious but um with cam though that that was bad for him because he had the combination of didn't come through in the game right didn't the post-game press conference he's gonna get all like the grizzled media people just bitching about him and then the fumble which i haven't decided where i stand on that yet because which one when he didn't dive on the ground for the fumble oh and he didn't go and people love to do the oh you gotta you gotta leave it all in the line and all that yeah it seemed weird watching dive on the ground for the fumble. Oh, and he didn't go after it. And people love to do the, oh, you got to leave it all on the line and all that. Yeah. It seemed weird watching it.
Starting point is 00:13:48 On the other hand, I watched it from a couple different angles. And I think he thought the guy was going to hit it with his hand. I could see him thinking he wasn't going to get there. Oh, I thought, see, I thought he saw the guy reach out for the ball and he jumped back because he thought the ball was going to be tipped toward him. So it froze him for a second because he was waiting for the ricochet, but then the guy just grabbed it, and then it made him look bad. Yeah, but there wasn't a sense of urgency at all for that team, I think, a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Like the end of that first half. End of the first half was awful. That timeout. I think he took the timeout before the third down play with 34 seconds left. Then it was just too much. Poor Ron Rivera. Yeah. Rough challenge in the first quarter.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Still don't know about that challenge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it just didn't go his way. Right. And then the first half was bad. Yeah. Never really seemed to adjust to the fact that Miller and Ware were just killing them until the second half he brought some extra tight end in.
Starting point is 00:14:46 But the design run for Cam worked pretty well, right? And they just didn't do it enough. It seems like there were some things they could come up with. They could try it one more time. It might have been the difference of the game. And then how about punting with two minutes left? 2.09? 2.20?
Starting point is 00:14:59 What was it? Well, the fourth and 24. No, there was like three minutes left. Okay, that was three, yeah. They had two timeouts, two-minute warning. Right. They punted. Punted.
Starting point is 00:15:09 You're not getting the ball twice there. You're not getting the ball twice. Or maybe you get it with an onside kick with eight seconds left. FYI, you're not scoring twice in two minutes against Devers. No. You have a better chance of just doing the Rodgers-Hail Mary play. Right. That was my biggest issue with their offense.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I just would have thrown the Ted Ginn runs a straight line throw it to him play Tlaib was a penalty waiting to happen at all times and he had one of the worst face masks in the history of the league the worst face mask ever was when who was it Warren Sapp when he blew out Jerry Rice's
Starting point is 00:15:41 knee with the face mask on a reverse nobody remembers it was like 1997 the face mask was so bad nobody remembers this was like 1997. the face mask was so bad it literally broke jerry rice's knee ligaments in half this one yesterday close to the knee i know we had trouble with the the forearm where it is but the face has isn't even anywhere close to the knee but he he made that tackle to stop him from going the end zone he's like my only chance is to grab his face mask and twist his head around. Right. And, you know, Goodell had this thing on Friday about whether two personal fouls, you should
Starting point is 00:16:13 get kicked out of the game. Are you about to say something nice about Roger Goodell? No, but I think we're close to where, like, the yellow card, red card system should be instituted in football. And like, Tlaibib that's absolutely yellow card and then he's on notice if he gets one more he's out of the game right if you want to police the game that's that's a good way to do it i don't know about the two personal fouls because what if it's like it's just too easy to get a personal foul well maybe it's a face mask unnecessary roughness
Starting point is 00:16:42 i've had two personal fouls and see see if they deserve to be kicked out. It might not be a bad start. It might not be a bad start. Wait, hold on a second. I want to talk about our buddies at Squarespace who build gorgeous websites for normal people who don't know how to build websites. I bring this up because Cousin Sal,
Starting point is 00:16:58 it was very, very hard to find your SportsCenter pics on the internet. It was very hard. I looked Friday at 3 o'clock and could not find out who you picked. I had to text you. And it got me thinking, you could have just built a Squarespace site. Should have done that. You could have posted the links to your videos. Then I could have gone to that site.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Do you think ESPN would have been cool with that? Just me putting it on my site? Just embedded links. What's wrong with links to who you picked? It sends the traffic to ESPN. All right. Our friend Louis K. Oh, he did it?
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Starting point is 00:18:06 10% off your first purchase. Squarespace. You should. Back to thearespace.com use the offer code bs 10 off your first purchase squarespace you should back to the game back to the so um denver had 11 first downs total yes i think for passing did they have i think in the patriots game and last night's game i think they had as many first downs as carolina yeah combined in those two or new england something like that yeah um manning was 12 for 23 for 141 yards he had five sacks he threw a pick a terrible pick that that they should have been up nine going into the half right pick uh strip sack fumble through two more picks that were dropped 12 straight three and outs and yet i'm gonna have a controversial opinion for people who know me. What is it? I really respected how he played.
Starting point is 00:18:49 The guy's washed up. Yeah. Like, we've seen washed up athletes so many times where it just ends horribly. You know? And even like Larry Bird, I remember. I always bring up Bird with Manny, but Bird in the 92 playoffs was just washed up at this giant back brace. It's like, oh, my God, are we going to make the finals with this guy? He's like done.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Yeah. And Manning is the first guy I can remember who actually won something, even though he was washed up. We can say he's washed up. He was washed up in that game. Please retire. Please. Archie Manning's like, I got 200 texts. Everyone's telling me he should retire it's like
Starting point is 00:19:25 they're talking about him like he's some dog that needs to be taken to the vet but you know what he did well let's think about what he was just good enough that he didn't kill them he had to scare the the Panthers a little and they got the ball and then he went right down the field and I know they only got a field goal but they the design plays it was good that set the tone couple good passes and I just think he made a deal with himself. Well, I'm not, I'm not going to screw this up for myself.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I'm not going to the punter trusted the D. I think it was more like two years ago. Like I'm not doing that Seattle thing again. I can't be my last game. I just can't be it. That can't do it. So I'm going to, I'm going to put my game and game in the hands of defense.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I'm going to do what I can to not screw it up myself. But, but one of the things I like you, the numbers are numbers though it's not even like one of those games where first of all we've seen a lot of super bowls that are bad but then there's a good ending this didn't have that no and carolina if you look at the numbers it wasn't you might take their numbers before the game. Like Newton, 265 yards passing. They had over 110 yards with 60, 80, 90, maybe 125 yards rushing. Not bad, right?
Starting point is 00:20:36 Time possession, 32 minutes to 27. It wasn't like they pulled the Giants' bills where they just were dominated. Defense was good. Just those couple plays. Field goal hit the upright. Yeah. That was bad. Screwed up the end of the half.
Starting point is 00:20:49 That was bad. The strip sack. Strip sack, fumble, touchdown. That big play, even though they only got a field goal out of it, that punt return where for some reason everyone stopped tackling. Bad. They were just sloppy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:01 This is just not a good game by them. It wasn't good. It wasn't good. With Manning, though. 102 penalty yards to 51 that's another one i thought denver was that was the other thing they were super aggressive like tj ward got the one helmet to helmet unnecessary roughness call on cam but there was another one where when cam slid and tj ward came in with the iron mic shark elbow but missed him right that would have been like a 40-yard penalty. The one thing I'll say about Manning is, especially in the fourth quarter, you could see it.
Starting point is 00:21:36 He has this command over the possessions where you knew they were just going to take 39 seconds for this snap to play. He'd go to line with 18 seconds left to the Omaha, Omaha, and then he'd hop out and audible and Carolina's like, what's he doing? Is he going to throw this time? And there would be a handoff again. But he was always getting it to 39 seconds and handing off. It was good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:51 It was really smart. And it seemed like Carolina was just, especially like around inside the 20, was just like, we know the only play you have is the throw over the top, down the middle, where it either goes out of bounds or the guy's going to make a great catch where he leans his hand. It's like, we know you're not going to throw to the sides because we can jump those.
Starting point is 00:22:12 We know we're going to jump every screen pass. They're ready for everything. Owen Daniels, back to the end zone, maybe hits a goal post. Yeah, it made me mad that the Patriots, who knew that was all he had, somehow let Owen Daniels beat them down the middle and then to the right. But, you know, it was a big drop.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I was watching the highlights last night. Cotri had that drop. Newton threw that perfect. Yep, it was really nice. Right down the sideline. And was that, did they have to settle for a field goal there? Or was that? I don't even know if they scored that.
Starting point is 00:22:40 They didn't get a touchdown. They might have hit the upright on that. Yeah. I don't think they scored there. Should we discuss some of the prop bets that, Yeah. I don't think they scored there. Should we discuss some of the prop bets that... I mean, this to me was the biggest criminal... Well, wait a second. Before they do that, we got a mic for Tate.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Should we go to him? Oh, yeah. I'm sure. Yeah, of course. Tate's angry. All right. Here's Tate, our producer. This is a big moment for him.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Tate, do your one-minute rant on what happened. My one-minute rant is Jericho Cotri. First of all, Mike Carey came on and said Cotri caught that pass, which then I knew that he didn't catch that pass. Because Mike Carey's on his run. Right. So I knew that was coming back, which was terrible. The defensive secondary for the Broncos, I mean,
Starting point is 00:23:20 they're just holding on to guys. Roby's holding on to guys. Ted Ginn can't get a call. Not saying Ted Ginn needs a call, but he needs a call. He was getting handsy with all those dudes. Yeah. I'm with you, Tate. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Cam Newton. I don't know why we didn't do any QB draws with him up the middle. Yeah. That wasn't there at all game. They didn't call any of that. And then Jonathan Stewart, those first down run plays, they were running it right into the glut of the Denver team.
Starting point is 00:23:50 He never got more than a yard on any of those first down runs. And he was hurt, too. He got bent backwards, and that was maybe a difference, too. Derek Wolfe got his ankle and just pulled his foot back. He almost fell back early in the game. So, Tate, do you feel like the wrong team won that game?
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yes. Okay. All right. I like that. We wait 21 weeks to hear Tate and we finally mic him up and he has no voice. He's probably screaming at the TV. Thank you, Tate.
Starting point is 00:24:19 That was the disgruntled Carolina Panthers fan quarter. All right, let's talk about the props. Well, I feel like we should just do a whole hour on my Fozzie Whitaker prop. It was amazing. As usual, it was decided right away. First quarter, as always, you get it out.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I think it's because Stewart went backward. They had to take him out for a couple of plays. I had it over 5.5 rushing and receiving combined yards. It went up to 6. half minus 140 who the hell's betting this stupid prop uh and then he takes like a pitch was like a pitch play goes for 20 like 11 yards yeah he had 40 combined way over the five and a half and i think he was the panthers mvp to be honest if you had to give him an mv Maybe Coney Ealy.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Fozzie Whitaker. Yeah, who was the Panthers MVP? I would say either... Was it anyone on offense? No. What do you think, Tate? Who would you... I mean, it would have to have come down to the last... Going back to Tate, I don't want to set a precedent. Let's go back to Tate. Who was the Carolina MVP? It's definitely Coney Ealy. Coney Ealy had the
Starting point is 00:25:21 interception and the strip sack and the fumble recovery. Yeah, it had to be him. All right. So, but with the props. Congratulations to him. To me. That should be a prop. Who is the MVP of the losing team?
Starting point is 00:25:34 We should be able to bet on this. There was no good payoffs for the props. That's the worst part of the Super Bowl. It was very, very few. If you had Denver minus 10.5, you got plus 625. So we should have talked about that. I didn't see that one. you had Denver minus 10.5, you got plus 625. So we should have talked about that. I didn't see that one. What?
Starting point is 00:25:48 Denver minus 10.5? We both thought there was a scenario where Denver's D just won this game, and it was a little 2000s Ravens-y. I didn't know it was plus 625. Yeah, I didn't think they went by 14, though. You did? Yeah? No, but I would have liked to have had the discussion. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Okay. Because if a defense has a lead like that, and then they can get something else and then all of a sudden you're up 14 you can't believe it like that's right plus 625 pretty good odds for that that was good odds total sacks was over five i think they doubled that i think it was 10 miss field goal happened miss field goal that was a fun one three straight scores which it seemed like a lot of people at the party had that one. I know. That was my fault. I convinced people to do that.
Starting point is 00:26:26 That was my fault. How about this one? Ted Ginn, total number of different players to have a pass attempt was two and a half. Ginn takes the pitch, goes to pass. Oh, yeah, and he ran it. This screwed people up because it gets counted as a sack. So he doesn't get a completion, doesn't get a pass attempt so that stays at two yeah he doesn't get a rushing attempt
Starting point is 00:26:50 which that would have put that number so what was it just a sack a sack unless they change it it kept looking as a sack i kept kept seeing that a two-point conversion successful was plus 280 so there was a moment which i we were all talking. I didn't even notice this. But when the Panthers scored, Tlaib was offsides on the extra point. Right. And it would have been on the one-yard line. And the Panthers have Cam. Right. And it was 10-6.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Mm-hmm. Yeah, 10-6. Yeah. Would you have gone for two on that for one yard? You got Cam Newton? I don't know. Riverboat. No?
Starting point is 00:27:24 Riverboat would have sunk his Riverboat right there, I think, if you don't get him. I'm not asking Tate. I don't want Tate to get in the habit of jumping in. Yeah, Tate, I'm not. Tate, just nod at Sal. Would you have gone for that? He says yes.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Yeah. Give the thumbs up. Can Cam get a yard? I don't know. Is Cam Newton good? Are we sure he's good? Are we sure? Team that scored most first downs, record most first downs,
Starting point is 00:27:47 Panthers minus one and a half, 21-11. That was easy. What was the Thomas Davis? That was a dramatic one. He finished with five tackles. He was under. Did he finish with five? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:58 That was one of my favorite props. Right. I know. We were like, oh, he'll play 20 plays and he'll be done. It was like, like no he played the whole game so then he instagrammed a photo of his two foot long scar on his arm even though his arm's only like a foot and a half really yeah he had he instagrammed his photo and it was from the top of his hand all the way to his elbow the grisliest scar you've ever seen the guy played
Starting point is 00:28:21 with a broken arm that's crazy and And they shut down Denver's run for the most part, except for that one Anderson. Anderson had that, what, 35-yard run? He had 90 yards, I think, Anderson, right? I think he had 80. No, he had 90. He had 90 and 10, yeah. How many carries?
Starting point is 00:28:38 I think, other than that 35-yard run, it was basically three yards a pop. We didn't know. We were wondering because... 23 for 90. Hillman did nothing. Yeah, so that was it. They had 90.
Starting point is 00:28:49 CBS, I mean, CBS got killed today, and rightfully so, for just an abomination of a broadcast. But it was the little stuff. Like, is Thomas Davis playing? Right. Can you just show him? Yeah, they didn't show him. Can you tell me about his broken arm?
Starting point is 00:29:02 Is he out there? What are his stats? Right. Things I would have been interested in well demarcus war of demarcus where von miller how many times did they rush the passer what's their percentage of hitting newton yeah you didn't know things i was really interested in you got hit 13 times you didn't know until they would have known had to go online to find out all this stuff they ran that first down stats once it was like 15 first downs to four but they were were super excited about, hey, watch this. There's this big blue light that's going to come up.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And we're going to show how the running back crashed through the goal line. And now it flips. And look, he did what. I was like, yeah, I saw him go through the goal line. You guys just spent like $1.2 million to show me. I don't know. I thought they were awful. Sims was awful as always.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And now they're promoting this new show. And it doesn't even air on CBS. I don't even know. And it's too gross to talk about. Sims? Is Sims in it? Sims and Nance. And they're just watching Manning footage the whole time.
Starting point is 00:30:01 And I don't want to say in what setting, but it's called Fill Me Up. And P-H-I-L. Is its way to the playbook channel yeah it gets its way to spice fill me up i thought i think well first of all we can all agree there's a theory that doing the thursday and sunday games every week ruins sims oh because it's in two straight weeks where it's just too hard. You've got to memorize all the players. You've got to do all this research. It might be. And it just broke Sims' brain.
Starting point is 00:30:31 So I'm actually, I feel bad for Phil Sims because we've piled on, but maybe it's just too hard to do two games in a week. But isn't NBC now doing it? Isn't Collinsworth going to do that now? Well, that's the thing. There's four Thursdays. That's why I bring this up. So NBC has five.
Starting point is 00:30:44 CBS has five. Oh. I don't want them to mess with Sims and Collinsworth. I'm worried about Sims and Collinsworth. Michaels and Collinsworth. Yeah. Michaels and Collinsworth. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Because the first week they go Thursday night, first game, and then Sunday night. They do that anyway the first week. Just the first week. Right. Now they're going to have to do that six times. Right. Yeah, it's interesting. Sims and Collinsworth were the big winners of the entire playoffs
Starting point is 00:31:12 other than Bum Phillips' son. You keep saying Sims and Collinsworth. I mean, Michael's at Collinsworth. Other than Bum Phillips, the biggest loser was Eli Manning. Wade Phillips. Wade Phillips. What's the matter with you? I think I need a drink.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I'm wearing that from yesterday. But yeah, Michaels and Collinsworth, big winners. Because it just feels like a bigger, better game when they're calling it. I agree. They called that Packers-Cards game, and it was just perfect. It does. I love that you pick up a mortal enemy every year at this time. It was obviously Goodell.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Now it's thes and it's still good though don't worry no no no i know no you're just adding on i'm not saying one's gone but i like sims and nance i i want them to be good they were we have to listen to them 22 times in a year it's just be competent it's true yeah there's too much bias they love manning too much it wasn't gonna it wasn't gonna change and the way they were talking aboutning, it was like the way you talk about your grandfather in front of him when you're deciding to put him down. And they're just like, well, here, you know, they know that Denver is going to have trouble completing it.
Starting point is 00:32:15 They're talking about it. No, no, Manning is going to have trouble completing it. They're talking about it in this abstract way. That's why I don't think Fill Me Up is going to be very successful. Wait a second. We have to talk about SoFi. can i tell you about sofi yeah this is something else i should get right yes you're right your instincts are correct it's a new kind of company that's sending shock waves the good kind through the financial world this is interesting i didn't even know about so
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Starting point is 00:33:14 just backing them for... I feel like they should back my Super Bowl picks because four straight Super Bowl picks, I've been correct. Is that right? Yeah. Four in a row. The last one I got burned on was Pat's Giants. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I've had the last four. You took the Pats in that game. I know. And I got it wrong. Wow. I got it wrong. When the Pats lose, I lose. That's how it goes.
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Starting point is 00:34:16 And they sold it. And they made it interesting and entertaining and compelling. And now I think they should just be on the show. Yeah, they should just add him in. CSI, I don't know, New Jersey? CSI have a hard-on for Peyton Manning. Broncos by 14 to 17 points, 20 to 1. Oh.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Damn. What was the one? You did the QB yards bets. That one I won. And that missed by a yard. No, but I did a few of them. 141 to 180 was eight to one odds yeah but 100 to 140 was 10 no that was higher yeah and he got it by a yard yeah he got right in
Starting point is 00:34:51 yeah uh 29 to 35 total points was five to one broncos field goal first score plus 450 um this is one our friend donick hits every year you pick exactly how many points a team will score uh Broncos 24 points 12 to 1 pretty good and he nailed it nailed it he nails it every year what is he like I don't know how he does it you nail that every year weird Carolina no one had this 10 points 35 to 1 I had one of my best props was that Adam Perry Lang would buy 30% of the Superbowl. All right, let's talk about this. This is very important. This is tough.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Now I don't blame Adam completely because, uh, our squares pool is only $10 because it's, it's hard to find a thousand dollars in a room of 40 people, just cash. Right? So 10 times on. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:41 So we get them early. He's like, I want 10. I was like, great. That's great. That's a hundred. I collecting, of course. Jimmy, our cousin, says to him, he's like, well, did you write you wrote your kids names in the boxes, right? Your kids are going to be there. He's like, no, I wrote mine and my wife's names in there. He's like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. You
Starting point is 00:35:59 have to write your kids names in there. So now it's too hard to start crossing stuff out. He's like, can I get another hundred and squares? I was i was like ah now that's 20 squares just so he could write 20 of 100 now he's buying out the pool 20 of them he wins the first quarter and he wins the third quarter what's what's the most what what's the most boxes you should be allowed to buy how many times what's the most times you should be allowed to karaoke in a night before you're an a-hole i think i think you should if it's a hundred squares yeah you should only be able to buy five five okay and if there's now you need to sell squares like and now you can buy another five i think 10 max yeah 20 was a lot 20 is like now you're doing like the daily fantasy thing where the people are going into the million dollar pool and just putting in fifty thousand dollars worth of pools right so yeah he
Starting point is 00:36:48 won first and third quarter wow well on the bright side he did make some delicious chicken that was good it's good chicken wings so we were this wasn't a prop but should have been yeah you guys all you watch football with nick santoro who does scorpion yeah and it's a running joke about that you guys always make fun of them that none of you none of nobody in the room has seen scorpion even though it's like one of the 10 most successful shows great because the promo comes up every 45 seconds so so tony's there tony's the cbs demo he's 65 he's like my dad and uh and you're and you go have you seen scorpion tony let's ask tony tony have you seen scorpion. He's like my dad. And you go, have you seen Scorpion? Tony, let's ask Tony.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Tony, have you seen Scorpion? Tony's like, what? What the hell is Scorpion? Scorpion? Scorpion? What? That's on television? He was just flummoxed by it.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Nick is right there. And our friend Brad talks. Oh, it's only the worst show on television. You're not missing much. Nick's finally got a hit show. So then it became a running joke for the next two hours. You're not missing much. Nick's finally got a hit show. So then it became a running joke for the next two hours. But Tony, at some point,
Starting point is 00:37:53 somewhere between glass three and glass four of the red wine, started calling it the scorpion, unironically. He's like, that sounds like that should be on the scorpion. Which was even funnier. It was great. Meanwhile, it's like the ninth-ranked show, and Nick's laughing at the bank yeah he is he's like i'm not watching scorpion i won't watch it i won't do it maybe that should be the spinoff show is the scorpion what else do you have hold on a few more um cj anderson the score the first oh the last touchdown was 11 to1. Denver defense to score the first touchdown was 20-1.
Starting point is 00:38:28 You know what prop hit that we discussed and somehow didn't bet on, and I can't believe it because it was the biggest lock of the whole sub-roll, was Mike Carey getting a challenge wrong. Yeah, I know. What were the odds? It was like plus 125. Yeah, it was right about even. And we were like, this is the easiest money of all time.
Starting point is 00:38:42 He misses the challenge every week. He missed it seven minutes in and i actually think they might have taken him behind the stadium and shot him because he was never seen again he was never on he did not have a good year he did not have a good year that was it i would have bet it but i didn't want to feel like telling him 40 people to shut up so i could hear what he's saying you know that's a tough thing the peyton manning retirement announcement was another one we thought was a lock. As I predicted, he did not give it after the game. He didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Because he's going to give it to Adam Schefter on Wednesday. He had too much to talk about with Budweiser and everything else. So they said he didn't get sponsored for that. Right. That's what they said. I don't know. It's weird. Did he drink a lot of Budweiser?
Starting point is 00:39:22 Are we going to see him pass out in an alley somewhere? I have a feeling he did get sponsored. 13 completions for Manning was 40 to 1. Oh. That was pretty good. And Demarius Thomas, this is a good one. 0 to 10 yards receiving, 25 to 1. Where did that guy go?
Starting point is 00:39:39 0 to 10 yards receiving, 25 to 1. Didn't he have 9? He had 8. Yeah. That's he have nine? He had eight. Yeah. That's it. That's all I got. Very sad. It's over.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Hold on. We got to talk about Callaway really quick because nobody loves golf more than our beloved agent, James Babydoll Dixon. Oh, yeah. I'm positive he would love Callaway's new XR driver that they designed with the world's leading aerodynamic engineers from Boeing to find the most speed possible. We discussed this last week in our pod. What about when you're on the phone with Babydoll, who's pretending he's not playing golf? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:18 When you're not supposed to have the cell phone on the golf course. Right, yeah. And he's like, hold on a on a second baby and you think it's call waiting yeah and then you hear the sound of a golf ball being hit and then he comes back goes sorry about that baby and you go are you playing golf no no i'm not but you know he's playing golf and you hear the trees whistling right right someone's yelling for like if you saw that on entourage you're like i'll cut that out cut that out. This scene is too ridiculous. Stupid.
Starting point is 00:40:46 I think he's learned how to hit a golf ball while on the cell phone. Interesting. Because you can do it, right? You can just tilt your head to the right while you're holding it. Definitely putting. I think he would love Callaway's new XR driver. It has a larger head, hotter face, a streamlined shape, and an extremely forgiving driver. I took the XR driver to the driving range last week, or two weeks ago,
Starting point is 00:41:08 and I felt like I needed to bribe Von Miller's urine specialist to help me pass my drug test. In this case, the XR driver is actually legal. You know who's already using it? Phil Mickelson. So visit CallawayGolf.com for more information on the new XR driver. You can brag about it, impress your friends, talk about how you teamed up with Boeing. It's the new XR driver from Callaway. Forgiveness meets fast.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Von Miller did bribe a urine specialist three years ago. He did? Just Google Von Miller urine specialist. Really? Yeah. Just to get urine or just we know for sure? He did a test. He was worried about what would be in the time. I'm going get urine or just we know for sure? He did a test. He was worried about what would be in the test.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I'm going to Google it as we're talking. He was worried about what was going to be in the test. He failed the test. And then the league didn't like the urine specialist thing. And he got suspended another two games. All right. So he did his time. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Learned his lesson. He's clean now this is september september 22nd 2013 espn story by schaefter and mortensen suspended denver broncos pro linebacker vivon miller unsuccessfully attempted to corrupt the nfl's drug testing program with the help of a urine collector before each was caught in a matter that will affect how the NFL's collecting testing procedures are done. His initial diluted sample counted as a positive test. Blah, blah, blah. When Miller's representatives became aware that the Broncos linebacker and the collector involved worked together in an attempt to help Miller avoid a failed test.
Starting point is 00:42:44 The collector was, according to a source, starstruck. MVP, or are you going to be linked to the urine collector? What are you going to do? He's, well, you know, meanwhile, Tom Brady's getting booed before the Super Bowl. And I know there is, and I'm watching, I watched a couple episodes of Mr. Robot, which was awesome. Yeah. Oh, did you finish it? No, I'm like two or three episodes in. And the thing starts.
Starting point is 00:43:11 It's like O.J. Simpson, Tom Brady was all these people who cheated or whatever. Yeah. And it's like Tom Brady's in this. Right. For the ideal gas law, which wasn't his fault. And Von Miller, who worked with a urine collector to try to flip his drug test is uh everyone's here now i love it can i just say that was james baby doll that's weird that he called me i just showed you the phone i think he has the office bugged i want to say something else yeah he doesn't have the office bug because he asked me last week you remember what you said i asked you if he baby doll got one of those clubs from you yeah was he able and you're like for what
Starting point is 00:43:44 he negotiates a contract every five years? I'm sick of him getting free stuff. Yeah, I remember that. So I was like, all right, I'm just going to wait. Two days later, I get a call from Baby. What exactly, what was the exact comment Simmons made about me and negotiating contracts? Because I'm getting calls from people.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I'm like, I don't know, Baby. You're going to have to do the impossible and listen yourself so if you can figure out how to listen to our podcast all right because i really need to know like thanks bill thanks thanks for saying that every five years yeah what am i supposed to do for you it was really mad that's great yeah we should this should be a three-man podcast yeah get them in here i don't know how this works it's so mad he didn't even know what he was mad at what other props do we have that was it i wanted to maybe discuss some of our nba uh outstanding uh bets well do we want to do super bowl uh next year's super bowl i think that's the good thing about this it it opens it
Starting point is 00:44:43 up no one's beatable, right? You're in the NFC. I feel good about Tony Romo. My Cowboys, obviously. Your Patriots will be right back here. What were your Cowboys' odds? Coming up? Oh, I got it right now.
Starting point is 00:44:57 I think their favorite would win the NFC East. Dallas, 16-1. Right, that's about what it was last year. Romo, they're saying this metal plate they're putting in his throwing shoulder is going to give him 100%. This has got to be it. Don't say that with a smirk. You're friends with him now.
Starting point is 00:45:12 I know, I am. I was dead serious. All right, Pat's 9-1. That's the favorite. Carolina's 10-1. It already has all the makings of this Super Bowl loser, next season regression, season from hell season. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:45:25 7-8-1 the year before. 15-1. I hate to bring Tate in here, but I know he's not. Oh, Los Angeles. What is that? I was excited to see them on the Super Bowl odds. 50-1. What team is that?
Starting point is 00:45:40 It says Los Angeles. I guess the Rams. We might have to bet on that. Peyton Manning might be their QB next year. That can't be. Why? Who is that? Who is Los Angeles? I guess the Rams. We might have to bet on that. Peyton Manning might be their QB next year. That can't be. Why? Rams or Texans?
Starting point is 00:45:50 Where does he go? Rams. You think so? Yes. If he's back next year, I think it's for the Rams. You get four games against the Seattle and Arizona defenses. That's what he wants to deal with? How much is Brock Osweiler going to get paid this summer? You think he goes to the Browns?
Starting point is 00:46:06 It's possible, right? That was in Peter King's thing today. I liked what I saw from him. Sure. Yeah. I wouldn't mind taking him. I think if they had used him like they used Manning in those last few playoff games and just tried to win with their defense,
Starting point is 00:46:21 I think he probably could have done a lot of... Well, Manning did. Want to talk about NBA really quick? Yeah, well, there's a couple aside from NBA. Here are our outstanding plays. We have the Blue Jackets to win the East. That's in hockey, 12-1 odds. They're the worst team in the league. They're 21-28.
Starting point is 00:46:39 They're in last place in Metropolitan Division. Actually, you're right. It's not fair to say that. They're last in the league. Tied for a couple teams. We have Rubio with plus 650. I think that's good. Although everything I hear is that he got pounded this week.
Starting point is 00:46:53 So it's good and bad. It was because it was good that everyone else is so afraid of him that they all gang teamed him in the Saturday debate. It was bad because he completely fell apart and it was very Lloyd Benson, Dan Quayle-ish. When Christie just kept coming at him and Rubio just looked staggered. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Yeah. Well, he's favored to win the Republican nomination and we have him at plus 650. Well, that's good. All right, now basketball. Celtics over 44 wins. They're three seed. 31 and 22. over 44 wins. They're three seed. 31 and 22.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Over the moon. They're on pace for 48. It's not a gimme yet. Looking good, though. They'll make a trade, too. That's looking good. This one's not looking as good. Rockets to win the division.
Starting point is 00:47:36 We're going to lose some Rockets money. They're 17 games out. Yeah, that one's bad. 17 games out is a problem. All right, Spurs, you still like this at 10-1. 10-1 is high to win the title. It's good odds, but I was almost cursing them. 10-1's amazing.
Starting point is 00:47:50 They're like plus 350 now. Did you see them play the Lakers? It's a great title. We're just trying to get value. It's a great bet. They might lose 4-5 to Golden State. I guarantee you, you could sell off your Spurs 10-1 bet if you wanted. You think so?
Starting point is 00:48:00 Yeah. Yeah, but you don't know shit about basketball. You should sell it to the Scorpion, the guy who runs the Scorpion. All right. Houston, over 56-1. Oh, but you don't know shit about basketball. He should sell it to the Scorpion, the guy who runs the Scorpion. All right. Houston over 56 and a half wins. Oh, that's such a loser. They're on pace for 42. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:48:12 New Orleans over 46 and a half wins. That's the worst. Everyone got hurt. On pace for 30. That was terrible. Washington over 47 wins. Oh, God. They're in the lottery.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I did a terrible job this year. On pace for 37. These are ones you couldn't bet, but you told House and I. I recommended these. Yeah, but this is a long shot anyway. This is all right. 25-1 that Davis wins MVP and Defensive Player of the Year. That's not going to happen, but that's all right.
Starting point is 00:48:42 And then House and I took Okafor and Towns at 3-1 and 5-1 for Rookie of the Year. Are we going to win? Towns is going to win. You sure? It's not going to be Porzingis? No, Towns will win. You sure? Towns is amazing.
Starting point is 00:48:53 All right, that's good. That was 5-1. Tate, turn your mic on again. Tate's back. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, Towns is going to have to get hurt. He's crying.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Yeah, Towns is going to win. Towns is going to win. All right, good. Because it's a good crop this year. That's it. That's all I have. That's it? That's all what?
Starting point is 00:49:09 How much more do you want to lose? We're going to lose all of them. We didn't talk about one thing last night, which was my favorite part of the Super Bowl, and you didn't even bring it up. What was it? Your first bet. For some reason, you like to bet on the National Anthem song. I know.
Starting point is 00:49:22 The song. And you go online, and you study the practice performances of it. Yeah. And you were convinced Lady Gaga was going under. She was under by 25 seconds in all the YouTube clips. You had your iPhone out with a stopwatch. Yeah. And we had just gotten there and Tony was like, what's Sal doing?
Starting point is 00:49:40 I'm like, oh, he bets on the National Anthem, which delighted Tony to no end. And then you told us you went under and both of us recoiled we were like are you it always goes over you know she's gonna milk it like what it was a high we were just in disbelief you're like no no i studied this it went like 25 seconds over it went so far over that they had to fly by and then it cut back to her and she was still singing. I would have lost anyway, but she stopped and then started up again. Well, they don't know. Some books are paying
Starting point is 00:50:12 it and some aren't. I lost either way the way I got it because I got it at a bad number. But she said, And home of the brave. The brave. She stopped and started. But I got killed on that.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I would have lost that on a teaser. You lost like 25 seconds. Yes, it was bad. Come on, it's a Super Bowl. How do you go under with Lady Gaga? I got like Denver in the under. It's the worst bet of all time. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:50:39 You're going to Roots Chris Steakhouse and ordering a burger. What are you doing? Bet some props here. This is the last chance we have. Made you mad. You could have lost money on the anthem. I was at under-11 soccer all weekend. I hadn't looked at it.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I should have looked at it Saturday night. You had some nice things. I definitely would have bet Mike Carey. McManus for MVP would have been fun. If they had won 19-7 and he had made a 56-yarder and Von Miller had never had the second sack, I think it was in play.
Starting point is 00:51:09 What if he even gets, there's a pass interference in the end zone with a crazy, oh no, it's holding in the end zone, but it was thrown into the seventh row. And that keeps that drive alive. Otherwise, McManus gets his fourth field goal. I think that would have been great. You're right.
Starting point is 00:51:23 It might have still been Von Miller. When that's the Patriots, It might have still been Von Miller. When that's the Patriots, it's an uncatchable ball. But when that's anyone else in the league... If it's holding, it doesn't matter if it's uncatchable. It was holding when the ball was in the air, though. Yeah. And by the way, the Broncos did what he did
Starting point is 00:51:39 on that play to 15 different Carolina receivers in that game. They're getting hugged. What about the Gatorade was orange. Yep. And you were quick to point out that Kubiak had a heart attack. No, he had a stroke. Kubiak got a stroke.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Yeah, they wouldn't give him a... Two years ago he had a stroke, and they were going to dump cold Gatorade on him. I thought that was a bad idea. I got nervous. Right, and if you could somehow find my bit online where Jimmy Kimel pours four tubs of gatorade over my head ice cold i almost had a stroke day i'm not even kidding it's not
Starting point is 00:52:11 really cold it's not acting it's very shocking we were supposed to do it four times i grew you could see me grab his leg between the third and fourth one i was gasping for air so worth it remember george allen yeah the famous redskins coach. How does this still happen? I know. He actually died. Developed pneumonia that week and died. Yeah. From the Gatorade bath, they thought.
Starting point is 00:52:32 They were convinced. They were trying to kill coaches. There are not that many good coaches in the league that we can kill them with Gatorade. There's like four good coaches. It should have been Wade Phillips should have gotten it. Yeah. There needs to be a different. I mean, you might as well stick firecrackers down their hoodies.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Like, it's stupid. How did you feel about Peyton Manning getting the Disneyland call? Oh, he did? I didn't even see. Not Von Miller. No. What? No, he got.
Starting point is 00:52:58 He was. Peyton Manning's going to. Is that true? You know, they pick every. Yeah, of course. It was Peyton Manning. It's not the MVP every year? Not this year.
Starting point is 00:53:07 I can't even tell if you're kidding right now. I'm not kidding. Really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's another one. Should he be on roller coasters with four neck surgeries?
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Starting point is 00:54:19 It was, we didn't even have a podcast for three, for the first three weeks of the season. We didn't do a preview podcast. We rallied. We did. Let me plug Jimmy Kimmel Live real quick. Tonight, Brie Larson.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Demarcus Ware is coming on the show. Oh. Which is bittersweet. The former cowboy. Bittersweet for me. It really is going to be tough. You should call him a traitor and see what happens. He's a super nice guy.
Starting point is 00:54:38 I know that. I was expecting Brad Colquitt, but we got Demarcus Ware. Later in the week, Bill Maher, Sasha Baron, Cohen, Owen Wilson, Khloe Kardashian. It's a good week for us. I'm on Twitter at TheCousinSal, and that's it. I know. I'm going to miss you, buddy. We have to do a March Madness something. Well, you always get really sad on the week after football. I do. You just kind of wander around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:57 You have the OJ show. Oh, that's good. The OJ show's really good. You watching Galifianakis? That's a good one. Oh, you like the Galifianakis? You don't like it? Baskets? That's a real show, right? Oh, it's fun. Yeah. good. You watching Galifianakis? That's a good one. Oh, you like the Galifianakis? You don't like it? Baskets? That's a real show, right? Oh, it's fun.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Yeah. Okay. You'll like that. Baskets? He's a clown? Mm-hmm. And it's on TV. It's ridiculous. It'll remind you of season one of Jimmy Kimmel Live
Starting point is 00:55:16 when he co-hosted nine out of the first ten movies. Oh, yeah. All right, guys. Good job, baby. Good job by you. We about this bitch. Anytime y'all want to see me again, rewind this track right here. Close your eyes. And picture me rolling.

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