The Bill Simmons Podcast - Ep. 99: OKC-GSW With Travon Free

Episode Date: May 13, 2016

HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons welcomes comedian and 'Any Given Wednesday' writer Travon Free to break down the Thunder's athletic advantage, Westbrook's alpha-dog mentality (14:00), the Spurs’ championship runs (17:00), playing high school basketball with Tyson Chandler (21:00), Curry's clean image (28:00), Steven Adams's bruiser status (32:00), losing to Tennessee in the NCAA tournament while playing for Long Beach State (40:00), Westbrook vs. Curry (51:00), LeBron's subtweets (55:00), and predictions for the NBA Finals (59:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today's episode of the BS Podcast is brought to you by SeatGeek, our presenting sponsor and the only fan-friendly app for buying and selling tickets for sports and music and Hamilton. Oh yeah, Hamilton's on there too. Other sites have the nasty habit of showing you lower prices, charging you huge fees at checkout. At SeatGeek, the price you see is always the price you pay to start using SeatGeek. Download the free SeatGeek app or go to SeatGeek.com. Today's episode is also brought to you by HBO, the home of Any Given Wednesday,

my new show that starts on HBO on Wednesday night at 10 o'clock, June 22nd, right after the NBA Finals, which will hopefully be a good one. We should mention also the Ringer Podcast Network has grown. We have four new podcast feeds, including Keeping It 1600, that you can subscribe to. Chuck Todd was on this week. He was great. We also have The Watch, hosted by Andy Greenwald and Chris Ryan.

That has two podcasts this week, including Andy interviewed Colin Farrell. Oh, yeah. The Ringer NFL pod, Kevin Clark is on there right now. He interviewed Andrew Luck, who is a really, uh, interesting guy. And then we have the ringer NBA pod, which I did a quick 15 minute podcast yesterday with Kevin Clark, who is the only Orlando magic fan that I've ever met in my life. It might be the only Orlando magic fan, but we talked about Scott Skiles' bizarre resignation. So that was only a 15-minute quick pod.

But please, subscribe to all those feeds. It's going great. We are killing it on iTunes, thanks to you guys. So thank you. This is awesome. All right, let's go. Yeah. Clear enough for you.

All right. All right, it's Friday morning, West Coast time. The first writer from any given Wednesday that I've had on my show. This is an honor. Trayvon Free, how are you? I'm good, man. I got up early. I haven't gotten up this early in a long time.

I know. It's good. Well, you're still getting adjusted for West Coast time. You're from here, though. Yeah, back home. But I haven't seen anybody because it's so hard to work, move, readjust, and also want to go out after 7 o'clock. And you have more shoes than anyone I've ever met, and you just had to figure out just where

to put those in your place. I did. I had to get a second bedroom. It's unbelievable. Yeah, I got, I'm like... How many shoes do you have now? I'm like somewhere, I think I'm north of 200 now. How many are the Jordans?

Probably like 150. Oh, my Lord. You got to imagine. Look at Tate. Tate's getting excited over there. I saw those are the 30s, right? I don't have any of those. The only pair of the 30s I actually liked were the ones they wore in the Jordan high school game.

Yeah. Yeah, those were amazing amazing but all the rest of them was like why won't they make them like that so my son visited the office yesterday and you weren't even at your desk and you had hamilton yeah and you had uh you had an alexander hamilton bobblehead and a stone called a stone cold steve austin figure out in desk. He's like, who's this? I love this guy. And then finally he met you. And then as we were leaving, he goes, I like that Trayvon guy. I could be friends with that guy.

So you really hit that Hamilton and wrestling combo. Yeah, I hope I can get him a little land action when he goes again. I think it was May, end of May? Yeah, end of May I think he's going to go. Let's talk NBA playoffs because um so you played i i was like when people actually played basketball when they talk about basketball unlike myself only played through high school and then played intramurals and then kept playing recreationally but you actually played yeah i had a lot of uh i played with a lot of good players so i feel like when i'm watching these guys i play i actually played with some of good players so i feel like when i'm watching these guys i play i

actually played with some of the guys who are still in the league now but like having had those experiences and watching them play like i got i have a good feel for what's going on having never played in the nba you played uh high school ball you're on the same team as tyson chandler yeah chandler we played uh two years together right Right. And then you played at Long Beach State. Long Beach, yeah. So you see things a tiny bit differently. Like, for instance, when Chris Paul broke his hand in the Clipper game, and then Blake went out, and we started having a discussion, and you made the point, which is you had seen this happen a million times

in basketball games where Blake just kind of checked out. Like, he probably maybe could have kept playing, but after he saw that Chris Paul was like, I'm done, I'm out. Yeah, like you're the star player of checked out. Like he probably maybe could have kept playing, but after he saw the Chris Paul, he's like, I'm done, I'm out. Yeah, like you're the star player of the team. You just lost your star point guard and your season's basically over. Why would you risk playing more games at that point? And you're mad at the training staff. Yeah.

And you knew they tried to trade you. Right. So like, fuck this team. Like, I'm out of here. Yeah. I mean, I don't even know if it's i mean who knows who knows what's in his head but if chris paul is still playing i really don't think blake griffin i think he's just gutting oh absolutely because he i feel like if if chris paul doesn't go down

at least blake still feels like he has a chance but it's like if i lose my my star point guard whether no matter what their relationship is off the court like yeah if if i don't have him i don't see an incentive for me to like risk injury i kind of don't blame him i don't either like i've seen guys do the same way i've seen guys do it all the time like if your your season's basically over you know it's over like i i hurt my leg like make me play yeah i've done so you're watching this series, OKC San Antonio. I called it. I was the one person in the office. You did.

And the writing staff. There was an athleticism advantage. And OKC started controlling the pain a little. And all of a sudden, you could kind of feel shit. In game four, third quarter, I really really felt like durant was going to be out of okc in like five quarters there was it was so snippy and they were so tense and it just seemed like they were going to fall apart and then it flipped and now i'm like man they might be able to go toe-to-toe with the warriors well i when i saw i knew it was over for the Spurs when they still had the lead,

only because in Game 5, the Thunder were coming back, and Tim Duncan tried to lay the ball up. I think you remember this play. Oh, the up and under. Yeah, and I think he got three inches off the ground, and the ball rolled off the rim, and I was like, yeah, they're done. He's so done. And then Westbrook just took over.

But we were talking about it last night. I wouldn't necessarily count the Thunder out of this Warriors series like I think they're gonna the uh Thunder very blowout pro that was on game one like they can be amazing or they can get blown out by 40 but if they come into the series with their head on straight I think it'll be like probably the the one of the best series we've seen in a long time. Especially because you have Thunder, Warriors, you have potential Cavs, Heat, and then you have potential Cavs, Thunder, which is like a great LeBron, Durant, and Westbrook, Kyrie. And then you have, or you have a rematch of last year, which a lot a lot of people like myself don't necessarily give the warriors credit for winning that championship but i'd like to see any of those series there's a couple good things going on for the thunder now i mean the reasons i didn't like them and the reasons i was so frustrated by them during the season

for one thing they were just poorly coached you know like even like very subtle stuff like the fact that he would take duran and westbrook out at the same time the internet had already decided this was a bad idea five years ago like you want to stagger it because you have two of the best seven guys in the league you want you have the chance to play one of the best seven guys in the league at all times for 48 straight minutes why wouldn't you do that? And then just little subtle stuff like they had marginalized the Baca. I couldn't figure that out. I don't understand that either.

He didn't really have a good series until the last maybe three quarters or the end of this last game because he had gone, I think he had, if I remember the stat, it was like 19 points over the course of the series or something like that. Not a lot of rebounds.

Yeah, he just wasn't playing that great. But you know this, though. When you're marginalized like that and you're basically, go stand over here, but when we need you to rebound and block shots, you've got to do that. But we're not going to give you the ball and we're not going to stroke your ego in any way. You kind of check out like 25%.

Yeah, you spend all that time in your head just cursing out your teammates. You're just like, well, this is what's going to happen. Fuck these guys. And then a rebound comes your way and just like, I might get it or maybe not. You guys get it. Westbrook seems to like. It's totally understandable. I always try to put myself in the athlete's shoes.

And it's like if i'm serge abaca other than the fact that i might have the chance to make the finals and i make 50 million dollars a year and i came from the congo and this is like amazing i'm living my dream but just fundamentally is this a fun team to play on if i'm serge abaca and the answer is no you know it's like all one-on-one stuff and it's like like, sir, stay in the corner. Doesn't take advantage of what he does. So Donovan flips that in game four, puts in the Kaner-Adams lineup, and all of a sudden the Spurs look old. Yeah, oh my God.

And Duncan was too old. Boban's too tall. Game six, Boban's way too tall. West was too short and too old. Adam was basically resting defending Duncan. He didn't have to do anything. Adam was a beast. Yeah, it was just like yeah he was just like i'll just play on offense like i stand here next to tim duncan i'm big enough to just stand

in front of him and keep him off the off the rim and he was like great down there he had a double double last game and it became an old school bully ball series where they're just like they're getting offensive rebounds yeah they're getting second chance points i feel so bad for Tim Duncan it was sad to watch that I kind of wish I went to game 7 clips last year which they almost won and he was just heroic and awesome that actually ended up being my last column

at Grantland, would have been such a great way for him to go out, but everybody I think always athletes, I think celebrities to some degree, like actors singers, they're always going to stay too long, and with athletes I think always athletes I think celebrities to some degree like actors singers like they're always going to stay too long

and with athletes it's usually one to three years too long yeah but he did have a couple moments in game six

yeah a couple pick and rolls with Andre Miller for a second I was like wait a minute like maybe like there's still

some life left in Tim Duncan but I think that was just him getting emptying the tank so when he he goes out I loved that was just him getting, emptying the tank. So when he goes out.

I love it. They played him the whole fourth quarter. Right. That was it. I mean, I know he's going to retire. Just from how that fourth quarter went, it was clear that they were like, all right, ride it out, Tim. It was funny how everybody was saying retire, retire. And then at the end of the game, the announcers immediately got nostalgic and was like, you know, maybe he shouldn't retire. Like, I feel like he still got a little, like, those are the people who are, like, ruining people's bodies and lives.

Like, telling you you should do something just because they don't want to see you leave. Like, let the guy go, man. Plus, he played 20 years. He's pretty much healthy the entire time. But then you have all those postseason miles. And that's where it's like, those playoff games. Like, when you play a game like Westbrook played yesterday yeah that counts like a playoff game and a half he's playing warp speed right four quarters and it's almost like a football running

back like that's like a 39 carry game for a running back he's gonna be one of those guys that when when he starts to hit the decline you're gonna see it so hard oh yeah because he plays so fast and so like his first step when he's like taking guys off the dribble like he literally he goes past the basket before he brings the ball in like every he did it two times in a row last game we're just like how fucking fast is this dude we're like he's just pumping a hundred at a hundred the whole time and like i don't know how sustainable that is. How old is he? 27? 28? 27, 28.

I would say he's at the peak of his athletic powers right now. Yeah, enjoy these next... That's another reason why you got to make the right decision in terms of staying in OKC or going to a team where you have a really good chance to win the championship. Because weirdly, they're in the position now to kind of win a championship, which doesn't seem right because everybody had them losing against San Antonio.

Well, that 55-win season they had is really embarrassing. They had two of the best seven guys in the league. Adams is good. Cantor is a really nice guy to have off the bench. Waiters is skilled. Roberson is a really good defender. Abaka is a guy that they could probably trade this summer for a top five pick if they wanted. Like, it's not like this was a bad team.

When you think the Spurs won 67. Right. And OKC won 55. And I know OKC had a couple things. Like, Monte Williams, his wife, had that tragic thing. I think that derailed them a tiny bit. New coach. But still, like, 55 wins.

That's why I didn't vote for Durant and Westbrook for first-team All-NBA. I feel like when you have a great season, like, when you get into series, it's such a different mindset. It's such a different way of playing the game that people think, like, oh, naturally this team's going to lose to this team because the Spurs had like a borderline, borderline the same season as the Warriors almost, plus or minus a few games.

And then the 32-point blowout. Yeah. In game one. And you're just like, oh, of course the Spurs are going to do this. This is how they played in the season. And then they get, well, they lose four in a row or, no, they won. They lost four or five, but they really could have lost all of them. Yeah, like had that blowout gone differently, they could have gotten swept.

The Spurs were, I think by the time game time happened, nine-point favorites in game two. That's when it's that high for a must-win game for the other team. Right. But I mean, I swear in that third quarter, if you're like bet your life on what's going to happen, I would have said, okay, so he's going to self-combust. They're going to lose in game five and Durant's going to leave. And you could feel it. It really felt like LeBron in 2010 during that Boston series when it started to shift.

And then all of a sudden you could feel the history as the game's going on. Like, oh, holy shit. And it just didn't happen. Like, I give him a lot of credit, man, because I feel like that team was falling apart. Right. And he just wouldn't let it happen in that fourth quarter. Like, that was one of the best quarters I've ever seen him play. You know, he just would not let them lose.

It's something about when Westbrook takes over a game. That's scary. It makes me wonder about his relationship with Durant because it almost feels like he starts out going all right let's do this together yeah and the first time Durant fucks up he goes never mind yeah I'll just like I got this like like like it's like the inverse of when Durant defended him against that comment by Mark Cuban yeah at the press conference but like on the court it feels like durance or uh russell's like the dude he's like leading that group whereas like publicly though it feels like kevin durant's the star of that team yeah so i kind of get why cuban would

even say something like that because like the advertisement the shoes like everything like kevin durant's a star but on the court like it's all westbrook well partly it's almost like that aau mentality of yeah the guy who has the ball it just seems like he's more important i think the biggest difference with them when you know and i was rooting for san antonio because sal and i had this 10 to 1 bet on on san antonio to win the finals from last like early july so yeah, I was rooting for them. But I didn't ultimately care because I think OKC Golden State is fantastic. But when Durant shoots, I never want him to shoot.

When you're rooting against OKC, you're like, oh, no, don't let him. And when Westbrook was shooting, I was like, let him shoot. Oh, Westbrook's taking a three. Great. Yeah, please take that. But he just started making them. He was nailing it. He made terrible shots in that series how great was that that three i feel like even he kind of knew that three in the corner shouldn't have gone in when he just stood there and he never makes those he's i said this before on the pot he's he's one of the four worst three

point shooters in the history of the nba for anyone who's taken over like 1500 shots but he makes them when they matter two huge 30 foot But he makes them when they matter. He made two huge 30-footers. Yeah, he makes them when they matter. Wade's like that too. Wade was a terrible three-point shooter who makes big three-pointers for some reason. Do you feel like that? Marcus Smart's another one. I'm going to lump Marcus Smart in there for no reason at all.

But in terms of talking about the Spurs, I always thought the lockout championship was kind of like not a real championship how do you feel about that? oh that's a fake championship I never I wrote that

it was such a bad season I was living in Boston and my dad never wanted to go because that was one of the Rick Pitino years so I went to a lot of those games all those dudes were out of shape they thought the season

was going to get cancelled and then at the last second all of a sudden they were playing and it was like just fat out of shape. They thought the season was going to get canceled. And then at the last second, all of a sudden they're playing. And it was like just fat, out of shape NBA players. And San Antonio and Indiana and Utah, I think, were the three teams that had been practicing during the lockout. And they all came in in great shape and kind of kicked ass. But yeah, that wasn't a great team. Yeah, they were going over Tim Duncan's resume last night and showing all the pictures of him and Pop together.

And the five championships were like, come on, four and a a quarter maybe like yeah that's an asterisk i wouldn't say five and they also they won in uh they won the 031 which was just if you just look at the talent in the league there was this weird dip in basically beat the calves right yeah 0304050607 just the guys from the previous decade who were supposed to be at their peaks, they just weren't there. It was like a really weak league. That 0-3 team Duncan was on, it's one of the worst supporting casts anyone's won the title with.

It was like Tony Parker as a baby, Manu as a baby, washed up David Robinson. Captain Jack was probably the second best guy on that team. And they just rolled through. And they were awesome. I think that the one missed title that I think they would have won and probably should have won was 06. When Dallas got by them. The game seven at home.

They're up three with like 25 seconds left. And Manu goes to the line. Get layup. Gets fouled. Goes to overtime. I thought they had the best team that year i think they should have beat miami though like i feel like that was a lost championship when ray allen hit the shot oh no question but i don't know if they win the next year if they win in 13 that's why i feel like they they won one yeah and it

even now i mean i've never seen anyone usually the right team wins the wins the series that was 99 out of 100 times the right team wins the series that was one of the few times the wrong team won the series yeah i was rooting that was when i was rooting hard against miami i mean i never rooted for miami i was happy when lebron went back to cleveland yeah but i i was i wanted them to lose every championship because you care about the Cleveland economy? No, not so much. More so because I liked LeBron as an individual. I hated the... You hated him teaming up with Wade.

Yeah, I hated all of that. I hated the decision. I hated that super team shit. It was just like, come on, man. Just stay in cleveland and win one for your team like if that's your team and i think that thing was i think they decided that two years earlier but i i like i admire his like i don't want to think of him as a ring chaser but i feel like if they don't win in cle, he'll probably leave again. I'm pretty sure.

Dude Meyer's head painting? His what? The painted hairline. Oh, God, the hairline. That thing moves more than the San Andreas fault line. One minute it's perfect, and the next minute it's shaped like a perfect C. And then the next minute it's kind of like a Nike check. I don't know what is

going on with that. Just shave that thing LeBron. I don't think he's ready to do it yet. But at least it wasn't bad as Bouger though. Like he has to, LeBron has to paint the corners. Bouger had to paint his entire head which is like and Doc Rivers does it too. Like he sweats during the game and you see it start to drip

out of his head and you're like come on guys like people are gonna start thinking black people melt like like fix this shit like you guys have money like get it like get it done how would you psychoanalyze lebron just from what you've seen if he was your teammate and you had to play with him day in and day out how would you handle him as a human being i think lebron's the kind of guy that if you want to be in his world if you want to be on his side you have to do what lebron wants you to do i feel like lebron will be your best friend as long as you do what he wants you to do so if you like if i feel like he runs his teams so if you're going to be his teammate you be the teammate he wants

you to be or like somehow you get traded somehow. Right. But he seemed like he'd be the coolest dude to you, the nicest dude to you, as long as you're either someone he views as his equal. If you're not someone he views as equal, then you become one of those guys who have you have to live in his world the way he wants to live if you're like a wade or carmelo those guys who he like really respects i think those are the guys who can like really be real with lebron or like maybe like even criticize or give him shit but he seems like the kind of guy and having played with similar guys where like if you're not on board then you're like you won't have a good time you just won't i think we forget how one he grew up and then two just how famous he was when he was 17 yeah i had the guy had a hummer when he was 17 he had no money and a hummer on the cover of sleeves on the cover of slam a couple times like he's on espn his high school

imagine what would have been like for you if your high school games were on espn i mean mean, we had, it's kind of almost crazy now that I think about it, that we didn't have any because we played against Eddie Curry. Skinny Eddie Curry? Yeah, right. We played against Skinny Eddie Curry. We played against DeJuan Wagner. We played against a lot of big high school guys at the time. And we had Chandler's so like we were

we were playing we were like touring the country playing basketball like a college team and we were 15 so like that was crazy and you're 15 and that not like the wealthiest group of kids oh no not even close where are you staying in hotels and stuff like they were putting us up. Nike was paying for everything. That's amazing. It's just so corrupt. Yeah, we had a Nike contract. We would get the Jordans weeks before they came out.

So you had no money, but you were wearing state-of-the-art Jordans. The Space Jam Jordan 11s, my favorite Jordans, had come out my sophomore year. And we had those like long before people got like we were getting we got everything. We has like the best clothes, the best shoes, the best uniforms. And even when we played in the La Schwabe rotation in oregon we practiced at nike headquarters and they gave us that was when the kevin durant shoot or not kevin garant the kevin garnett shoes that come out yeah we'd gotten like three pair of those in three different colors um our coaches raided the nike employee store uh oh my god they were it was it was pretty amazing and there's probably like 200 teams like this oh absolutely easily easily and what kind of

car did tyson chandler drive as a senior uh he had uh he had an escalade the first escalade when they first came out and everybody had an escalator wanted an escalade and where did tyson chandler live uh it's a good question because we were at school in compton and uh and he's driving an escalade oh yeah i rode in it with him once i don't know i forget where we were at school in Compton. And he's driving an Escalade? Oh, yeah. I rode in it with him once. I don't know. I forget where we were going. I think we were going.

It was some team thing. And we all had to go and carpool. And I ended up riding with him in his Escalade. So you won the lottery on that one. Yeah, I won the Tyson Chandler Escalade lottery. But yeah, it was... He knew... It was interesting to be around a guy who knew he was going to the league to see just how the behavior of those kinds of guys. And like, you get treated like a King everywhere you go. Like everyone knows, like you're the golden boy. Uh, he was so thin, like, right. He was so thin. I was like, actually kind of muscle and, and,

uh, shooting. He was like, he had an outside shot, like so much had changed. And like that, like six or seven months between leaving high school, getting drafted and starting the NBA season.

Oh no, we got to, uh, we got to say hi to our friends at five, four club. You might be busy. Like me, you're busy. You're, you're helping us launch a-4 Club. You might be busy like me. You're busy.

You're helping us launch a show here. If you're like me, you don't have time to shop. You don't have time to shop, whether it's clothes for the office, the club, your daughter's two-day soccer tournament this weekend, a dinner event. It doesn't matter. You just don't have the time. Or you might just be lazy as hell. Either way, the 5-4 Club has you covered.

And they just sent me some awesome clothes that I've been wearing because, again, I'm too lazy to shop. They will provide you styling advice, recommendations. They'll make you a styling profile. They'll deliver clothes to your door every month. The profiles are classic, casual, forward, or mix. Free shipping, direct delivery to your doorstep. Clothes come every month or so and it's only 60 a month go to five four club.com use promo code bs at sign up and get 50 off your first package that's 120 worth of clothes clothing for 30 for your first month's package um i highly recommend five four club i like the clothes all. All right. Back to basketball.

So, Russell Westbrook, who is now the most fascinating person in the playoffs somehow, even though Steph Curry is the best player in 20 years. No, he's not the best player. He's the most beloved player in 20 years. I think LeBron's the best player in 20 years. Yeah. They love, but the guy, they love Curry. Steph has the highest approval rating of any player in 20 years. Yeah.

Everybody just loves Steph. He's too clean. Like, I'm waiting for that skeleton to come out of the closet, man. Like, it's, I just don't believe in it. Like, I've seen it happen too many times. Or, like, Tiger Woods is, like, a good example of just, like, you have this crystal clean image. I mean, Michael Jordan had that same thing where he's just, like, you're so nice and you're so good at what you do and like you haven't really had that was always whispers right steph came in we did a podcast him and david lee came into the grantland podcast

studio in like 2012 and he just seemed like one of one of like he easily could just start working in grantland he seemed like a completely normal, 100%, almost normal to the point that when he started to become famous, I started wondering, like, this could be weird for him. Yeah, I want it to not be true. I want it to never happen for Steph because I think he's great. But I just like, I feel like something's there. Like, I remember when he, a couple of days ago, when he accidentally tweeted that porn account. Yeah. I was hoping that porn account. Yeah. I was hoping that that was the thing.

I was like, did he accidentally not direct message some kind of porn thing and he's a porn addict? What is it for Steph Curry? What's the thing? He's so picture perfect. I feel like this world has jaded me in a way where I don't believe in it anymore. So how would you, you never met Westbrook? No.

What's your read on Westbrook? Because the most interesting thing about Westbrook to me is he fits this profile of guys that we've had in the league who are great players, who are force of nature guys, who the best situation

for them personally, they are convinced is the best situation for their team. And just, i don't want to say irrational confidence but overwhelming confidence alpha dog i'm the guy and usually the teammates don't like the guy that much and with him they love him like when he does well the whole team feeds off it i don't know whether they have stockholm syndrome or whether they

genuinely love him i think like i think if they love him. I think when they're not playing with him anymore, they'll probably realize how much they didn't like him. I think that's what's going to... Because when you're in it, you spend so much time with these guys. And you either can be the guy who's openly adverse to that guy who's just like, I don't really fucking like you. Like in college, you don't have a choice. I got to play with you. In the NBA, they'll trade you. Like they'll get rid of you.

But like he seems like the kind of guy who I would probably, if I was on his team, if we weren't real friends, like really friends, I probably wouldn't enjoy it. I just wouldn't like it. Supposedly he's an awesome guy. Yeah, like if that's what I mean. mean like if he's a good cool dude i mean it's a little weird too like he has like this whole weird loves fashion i love i love the way he is like change the fashion in a good way like just quirky yeah and uh i like the little dance thing they do they like he just like he he's his own person 110% of the time.

And I thought they were going to get into a fight when Villanueva walks through their little thing. Because I don't know where his temperament is on those things. I've never seen him really get into any on-the-court fights. He seemed like the kind of dude who would get into fights all the time. Because his energy is always at 100. But he kind of just like does his thing. Like I don't know if you ever seen that clip where they call a timeout. Westbrook's walking to the bench, and one of the guys on the bench

is high-fiving everyone as they walk to the bench, and he misses Westbrook. And Westbrook walks. He turns around and stares through his face like, you're not going to slap my hand. He like comes back and like slaps. Like those you're not going to slap my hand. He, like, comes back and, like, slaps. Like, those kind of things make me wonder, like, what is going on, like, in terms of that relationship where it's like, oh, shit, I didn't high five Russell. Like, I got a high, like. I think he's been good for Durant.

I think Durant is a pretty soft-spoken guy. Yeah, he balances him out pretty well. Who had a really tough life. And, you you know when you saw him in texas and he wasn't like tough like even yesterday there was this moment david west set this pick oh the yeah and they were like was that a flagrant or what but if you watch the replay he does it and durant kind of goes back and then he death stares him david west is like top seven guys you don't want to mess with he looks like. Yeah, he looks like a monster. But Durant's got a toughness to him that I don't feel like he had at Texas in the first couple years at OKC.

And I think a lot of that comes from Westbrook. Like sometimes you need that guy to feed off of. I feel like sometimes it could turn into a false confidence. Or like I don't feel like Durant's the best guy to be fighting a guy, especially like David West. Because he still ain't the biggest guy. You know what else helps them, though, is Adams is the guy you want. Oh, yeah.

Adams is almost a horror movie villain where his expression never changes. He's like the killer that he has an axe sticking out of his chest. He's just walking forward, still trying to get you. Any dude with that mustache would do anything you want him to do

he's the best blank slate he doesn't react yeah it's so amazing he's got 20 20 brothers and sisters or something

yeah that dude and they're all like 6'5 like some crazy like they have a starting 5 in their family he's this guy he's the guy that

if somebody just punched him in the face on the court he would just not react. You would look at your hand. He was like, did I connect with that? Did I hit a person? My hand's broken.

Adam's just looking at you like, you punched me. I thought he was going to punch that fan. Yeah. Like when they grabbed his arm. That was great. He did the silent rage killer death stare walk toward him a little bit. But I think it's a tough team they're not going to be afraid of the warriors no i don't think so their games that

they played this year were really fucking exciting you know they were high scoring back and forth and the breathtaking pace but i wonder if that works against them though like not being afraid like i feel like if you're not aware of what you should be afraid of yeah you kind of, you can lose yourself in the game and you can like be completely blinded to the right strategy to actually win the game because you're so pumped up. You've lost, you lost three times to this team over the course of the season and you just

were the underdogs against the Spurs. You beat the Spurs. Now's your chance to go to the NBA finals and possibly win a championship for like what the second time yeah and if you aren't smart about it if you're too into the now and not looking at the wider scope of it I think that can also hurt you by being too headstrong or too in this moment you kind of got to like get you you have to know your enemy you can't just be like oh of course we're going to beat the Warriors because we got this full head of steam and we're figuring it out

we're firing together like people are coming along you have to know you their weak their strength so to speak and not go in there thinking this is just your time so if I'm going state a couple things were in me. One is that the other, there's four great players in this series. Well, Klay's almost there. Is Klay a great player now?

I feel like, for me, I'm mentally almost there with him. I think he, I started realizing he was a great player, but Steph Curry's,

like, fucking mega dome is so big that you don't realize he's a good player or a great player or great player it's been incredible because every time like the games where uh steph wasn't playing curry uh clay was killing it like he kept he's been like lockstep with like three point records for they put they

were trading records at one point so it's easy to forget just how good clay thompson is well and also the defense like that i thought he just took out lillard in those last couple games in this series and i my frustration with clay was that he would kind of come and go which i think is the same problem as wiggins has where you you'd go to a game like i'd be in the stands be like it's clay oh he's out there like you just forget he was out there for eight minutes and now he's learning to like he'll post up every once in a while right he's he's he's just there all the time. So maybe there's five great players in the series, but Westbrook or Durant have the capability of being the best player in any game.

Sure. And Golden State, it's just those two and LeBron are the only two that can go into a Golden State game and Golden State might not have the best player in that particular game. You know what I mean? And Golden State kind of of and I kind of think this is partially what makes Steph great like their system really works yeah like I don't know if Steph Curry doesn't go to the Warriors if he's the Steph Curry we know today like if he ends up on the Knicks or some other team when he's drafted I feel like it changes

his career in a way where he can be misused like he works great in this warrior system with and with Clay it's like the totality of those two guys together with Draymond yeah with Harrison like it's it's almost like perfect for him to be there and I don't know if at this point if he should ever leave like if this team somehow disbanded like tate thinks he's going to charlotte charlotte really yeah tate's it's three for them three for us tate tate's from because his dad tate's from carolina so i mean he's got some but yeah he thinks steph wants to win three in a row, and then he goes to win three more in Charlotte. Do you think they'll win this year? I think they're going to win again.

You think so? But there's a scenario where they don't get out of this series, and it starts with, here's what worries me. If I'm a Golden State fan, this is what would worry me. I need Bogut in this series yeah i need like 25 to 27 really good bogut minutes a game and i don't know if i can rely on him physically you know like adams is an issue yeah adams is like draymond cannot handle steven adams he's not going to be able to keep him off the offensive board at all and if you remember the game when Steph hit the 35 footer at that best game of the season they got out rebounded by 30

yeah especially that's not that's not 10 that's not like the 30 is plus 30 is not an accident like they got crushed right on the boards and that that's a real problem they're going to need Bogut they're going to need a zeal and they're going to need to keep those guys off the boards I feel like no one in the NBA boxes out anymore or crashes the boards, but especially on a team like Golden State where they're so used to three-point shooters that you get into the routine of if Steph or Klay or someone shoots the ball, you just get back. Yeah. And you don't even crash, you don't even go to the boards because you think it's going

in. So you end up losing about- You just lose every rebound. Yeah, you start losing rebounds there just by having that mentality off the board and then if you have a team that's really playing hard that night you're probably going to get out rebounded by 30 that night no matter how many shots you're hitting well just think about the math right like the biggest advantage golden state has is they hit 13 threes a game right oklahoma city might hit four or five a game. So Golden State, every game is going to be plus eight with threes. But if Oklahoma City is getting 10 extra offensive rebounds a game,

they're getting 10 extra possessions, that evens out the threes. And that's why I think this can be a close series. And it tires out Draymond. It tires out the guys. And that's the other key point is Draymond. You're asking a lot from Draymond in this series, because he's got Adams and he's got Kanter, and if Ibaka gets fully re-engaged, there's three guys coming at the rim after every shot.

If they get Ibaka to turn on and Adams is... I felt like yesterday, did you see? I felt like he was engaged yesterday. It started to click. It started to come back. Especially now that they've got this new energy. I mean, if you get the O3 plan, it can be dangerous for the Warriors. But also, the Cavaliers have made at least 15 three-pointers in the last four games.

Right. Or some crazy stat like that. It's a barrage. So, like, if they keep that up. Well, that's another thing is you can't measure, you know, one team's going to be better than the other. But if somebody just starts making threes, it just upsets the seesaw. Offensive rebounds and threes are the two things that can upset whoever's better than whoever. That reminds me of when my senior year in college, we were in the tournament.

And we were playing. We were a 12 seed playing a five and we were uh playing against tennessee and that year we we led the ncaa in uh points per game we were at like averaging almost 90 points who was on this team uh anybody i know anybody remember um now we had aaron nixon who was like he was like a fantastic player amazing three-point shooter he might have hit like five buzzer beaters from like 30 feet that year yeah um but not anybody like who went pro or so you're frisky frisky kids from long beach yeah seed we were uh how many do you remember what the line was for the game i I probably wagered on it. I don't remember what it was. We were.

I interrupted you. Go ahead. But yeah, we were averaging almost 90 points a game. We were shooting. We were like top, I think, two or three in the country in three-pointers. We were playing, we were a fast up and down team. Yeah. And they come out and just barrage three-pointers. They just couldn't miss.

And it was one of those things where at halftime, we were losing, and we were shooting 45% from three. Wow. And we were still losing. And it was one of those games where the other team, we both shoot well, but if somebody's just shooting so much better than you, there's nothing you can do about it.

That's what happened in game four to San Antonio. Remember they had a six-point lead. Foy made a three. I think Kanter made a three. And all of a sudden, OKC just started making everything. And they had this 14-minute stretch. They just made every shot they took. Yeah, there's no defending.

You can't stop that. You can't stop a made basket. Like, we were trading threes with them, but for every two misses, they were making them. So, like, we're shooting 45%, which is an amazing number to be shooting at halftime. I think we took, like, seven or eight threes. And this dude, I don't remember this dude's name on their team.

Wayne Chisholm? Yeah. Well, I was guarding Chisholm, but they had a point guard. Duke? No, I don't remember his name. Light-skinned guy, really fucking good. He was 27 feet. Boom.

25 feet. Boom. Just coming down, like bombing us. And we weren't playing bad. They were just playing so good. It made us look like shit and i feel like that's the kind of thing you get into with either the warriors or uh like the the thunder have it in spurts the warriors do it all the time and cleveland has seemed to found it

which is i don't trust the cleveland thing yet i know the cleveland fans thinks everyone's against him i just think the east sucks is it's a terrible like the celtics it's a week took atlanta to six games we had like five guys and then atlanta just even though they're kind of in those games they just couldn't close right and uh it's no reflection on whether cleveland's great or bad or whatever it's just i don't have a feel for how good they are because, like, you look at OKC, right? You watched that game yesterday. They had, like, seven guys that were competing 100%, like, competing their asses off. Like, playoff guys. Even Roberson.

Roberson. Roberson. I can't. That Roberson-Roberson thing kills me. Because I always see things how it's spelled. But even he was flying around like he seemed like a playoff guy in that game abaca caner adams these guys are playing at a really high level and i just didn't see that from people in the east yeah you know

you watch atlanta it's like they got four guys playing hard yeah and five guys kind of playing hard i gotta do uh i guess I had a blue apron really quick. All week I've been eating blue apron because they sent us some blue apron. My wife has been cooking the blue apron stuff every night. I cannot recommend it highly enough. Stop wasting money on expensive takeout. Just sign up with blue apron. You should do this.

I had it in New York. Yeah, it's great. You just go home. You don't have to get takeout. You don't have to do any of that stuff. It's less than $10 per meal. They will deliver you all the fresh ingredients you need for a delicious and healthy home-cooked meal. They have established partnerships with over 150 local farms, fisheries, and ranchers across the United States. It can be delivered to 99% of the continental U.S.

Here's some of the meals they have available in May. Crispy cod and cabbage slaw tacos with pepita pineapple and avocado salsa. Middle Eastern chicken and chickpea stew with pita croutons. I actually had this on Tuesday night, and it was delicious. It was like very little chicken tiki marsala-ish. Pan-seared pork chops with two cheese mashed potatoes and sautéed spinach. Again, sign up with Blue Apron right now at blueapron.com slash BS, and you can get your first two meals for free.

That's blueapron.com slash BS. So Durant, they'll have one game where he's the best guy on the court. He'll have 44 and they'll win. There will be the one Westbrook game like we had in game five. He goes for 37, 11, and 9 with seven turnovers. And he's just forcing nature and they win that one. Curry's going to win at least one by himself. The Curry-Clay, we hit 15 threes combined, that'll happen.

So now I've just taken four games off the board, and now it's a best of three. I think this goes seven. I think it could, too. I mean, if you... I really do. I think best of three works out to, like, what do you get out of Ibaka?

What do you get out of Adam? What do you get out of Kanter? Versus what do you get out of Draymond? And how are you rebounding against these guys because the the thunder just a bigger team yeah and you can't win a championship without your inside play being cut being tight and and also the warriors didn't have to deal with this last year yeah they didn't have the bully ball team in the paint that just said oh you're really gonna play draymond green at center right now the counter that is their lineup of death at the end when they spread the floor they just make it impossible to keep somebody

like canter out there yeah it does make it yeah if they spread if they spread the floor then you instantly lose the effect of having those big guys out there. And that's why I'm worried I might be overreacting because San Antonio didn't have that lineup. And they tried Kawhi at the four a little bit, and they just were getting killed on the boards. You would think it would have been Aldridge, Kawhi, Danny Green, and two guards. And they just didn't have it. They didn't have those five guys.

Golden State has the five guys. Who do you think wins game one? Probably Golden State just because I think, okay, it should be such a different style. When you're going against a team that can't make any outside shots and now all of a sudden you have a team that's going to go 15 for 30 in game one. The one thing that I really hate saying this because it sounds like a crutch. I think each game will depend on how they're refereed.

Because you look at game two and game four of San Antonio OKC, and OKC was just bully ball. Every play was a foul and they just weren't calling it. And the more they got away with, the more that wasn't called and the more they were getting away with and it just they they controlled the game and the physicality of it and they can do that against golden state that's great for them they won't let you do it to like steph though like steph and those like clay like i feel like they kind of protect those guys but do you think but you know waiters will waiters robertson westbro, if Westbrook decides to play defense, which he didn't. Yeah, he took the first four games off defensively in the Spurs series.

But if they really are pushing him, nudging him, doing what Chris Paul does, chipping him, Adams is sticking his ass out, trying to knock him down, coming around the baseline, and they're just doing that the whole series, that's going to affect Steph. What do you think? Tate, you agree? Wouldn't you chip Steph all the time? That's why Delva Dover's his best effect.

He's so fancy. Yeah. You want to put the fear of God in Curry that he's going to hurt his ankles. Even though you're not trying to maim him or anything, but you're just like, I'm knocking you, I'm pushing you, I might step on your foot. You better be careful. You're not running amok.

Yeah, if you get in Steph's head, because he gets hot-headed. He has temporal moments or temperamental moments where he gets emotional and people push him and he pushes back and i mean sometimes i can work against you because he gets in the zone and he whereas like other people that would take them out of the game for some reason it makes him better yeah so yeah he does pick it i like that he he gets a little alpha doggy when that stuff happens yeah like do you want to piss off steph curry because like how how do you use that against him like pissing him off doesn't make him worse it makes him better but also you want to be physical with him and you want to like not let him

have his way around the court but chris paul's the guy who has done it the best i noticed yesterday and i noticed this the last three games with san antonio once okc the bullying the bully ball right and just at some point saying somebody on san antonio needed just clothesline one of those guys going on the basket just take the flagrant dave i was waiting for david thought I thought West was waiting this is why you're on the team just nail somebody just once

because the OKC guys were just going on the basket with impunity yeah you know and they were just completely fearless

and uh and OKC just they were never stopped West that's why you're on the team hit somebody I'm not saying

like hockey enforcer but I mean you know make somebody think twice when they're flying on the rim we Hit somebody. I'm not saying like hockey enforcer, but I mean, you know, make somebody think twice when they're flying on the rim. I mean, we would get that note all the time from our coaches. Like, make them pay when they drive the lane.

Did Westbrook even get nailed in that series? I don't think so. Golden State, Bogut is going to nail somebody. Azeale will nail somebody. And Draymond will absolutely nail somebody. Draymond, definitely. I give it a game and a half before Draymond does it. So here's another thing OKC could do that I think would work.

I would be talking to Draymond. I would have multiple guys. I want to get Draymond upset. I want to get in his head. I want to get him yelling. I want to get him out. Get all alpha doggy. Oh, yeah.

I want him yapping. Good. Get that way because I think he to get him out. Oh, yeah. Get all alpha doggy. Oh, yeah. I want him yapping. Good. Get that. Get that way because I think he can get too carried away with that stuff. Yeah. And then he becomes turnover prone. Like. Yeah.

The moment you get into his head, he starts making terrible decisions. Get a tech. Get a double tech both ways. Adam should be trying to get him the whole series trying to get him to take a swing at him. His goal should be I want Draymond Green to throw a punch at me. Because it'll bounce off my head and Draymond Green will break his head. I'll just walk away like Frankenstein.

But you know what, though? We can talk about this all we want. Whoever has the best part in this series is going to win. If Durant's the best part in this series, OKC's going to win. Yeah, I was trying to figure out what the one thing is. It's really, sometimes it's that simple. Yeah, I was trying to figure out what the one thing is that OKC has to do to win the series.

I think you're right. I think that's it. You just have to have that guy be on. And who guards Westbrook in this series? Honestly, I don't think anybody can. I don't think so either. I think you kind of just have to like... You put clay on him?

You have to just concede that... I mean, you can try to keep the ball in the Westbrook's hand. Good luck with that. But if you put clay on him, you're risking foul trouble for clay. Yep. And you're putting a lot of miles on him. Oh, yeah. He's going to run him. I mean, fourth quarter, maybe you do it.

Iguodala, I'm guessing, would guard Durant. Curry, you're going to hide on Robertson and Dion Waiters, whoever else. But Clay, I mean, that's – what do you think, Tate? Clay's going to guard him, but Curry's going to guard him some, too. Westbrook? Curry doesn't like that. Tate thinks he can't air. I think Westbrook, Curry – I think Westbrook's going to take that so personally.

I think so is Curry. He's going to. Yeah. But I think Westbrook even more. Because I feel like Curry's smart enough to recognize, like, the limitations. And, like, I'm also part of a team where Westbrook is just like, what? Like, fuck. Like, okay.

Like, he knows, like, everyone's watching. He knows all the shit people said about him. Like, he's got that huge chip on his shoulder and it's like this is the dude it's the unanimous mvp all right let me show you how much of an mvp you are and that don't you feel like the i think a lot of guys in the league feel that way i think chris paul every time i've been to a quick warriors game i feel like chris paul's like fuck this guy i'm better than this guy i can't believe everybody thinks this guy's the best guy i know i'm better than this guy and I can't believe everybody thinks this guy's the best guy.

I know I'm better than this guy. And then LeBron, all the grenades, he's kind of, now he's taking shots at Steve Kerr. You can tell that Kerr, he drives him crazy. He's like, I'm better than this guy. I'm the best guy in the league. That's the crazy part is the MVP award is so misgiven, especially when people, I feel like forgotten what mvp means like it's not your favorite player it's not the best player it's the best player wait you wouldn't have voted for curry no oh no no oh no lebron's the most valuable player 73 games yeah but okay take stop it take

lebron away from cleveland take steph Steph away from the Warriors, and which team does worse? That Cleveland team is shit without LeBron. Well, without LeBron, Kyrie is just jacking it. Like, they don't, if you take Steph away from the Warriors, they still win 70 games. This is one of my, no, no way. Stop it. You don't think so? No. I think they're like a 50-win team without him.

They're minus 23. Even giving them 50, you think if you take LeBron away from Cleveland, they're as good as they were this season? Well, so this is one of my favorite ways to figure out the MVP. You replace the player with an average player at his position, right?

So replace Steph Curry with Jared Jack. How many games did the Warriors win? I would say like 51. 50, yeah. Replace LeBron James with Marvin Williams. How many games does Cleveland win? I think they won like 58. Really?

58? No, I think they won like 58. Really? 58? No, I think they won 58. I think that's they won 58 games this year. So if you replace Marvin Williams for LeBron I still think they're a 500 team. They have a lot of talent. They have Kevin Love

and Kyrie and Tristan Thompson. They're the highest payroll in the league. But look I feel like LeBron in the same way Steph Curry brings something to the Warriors team that they don't have when he's gone, because the Cavaliers team, I don't think is as good as the Warriors team.

I think if you take someone like him. Well, definitely the coaches weren't as good. Yeah, yeah. I think if you take him out of that equation, the mentality changes. The way, like, they don't have that leadership that LeBron has. Like, they don't have all the intangibles not to mention him being the best player like i think if you lose that i feel like by a margin whether it's small or not he is more valuable to that team than steph is to the war because the warriors are a system team too like couriers. The Warriors won 25 straight to start the year, 73 for the season.

My whole thing when I did the awards bout, I just rewarded Warriors left and right. I put Clay in the second team. I had six men. I had Iggy first and Livingston third. Anywhere I could reward that season, I did because it was like that's never happened before so if you had if you owned the warriors and the cavaliers and they said you had to spend your season minus lebron or uh steph you'd rather lose steph i'm confused is that right are you rather lose LeBron?

You think Steph's more valuable? I'd much rather lose LeBron. Yeah, because that could have revolved the team around Kyrie and Love and those guys. But do you think that works, though? No, and you're a 500 team at that point. Then you don't... Exactly. So you're not where you are now. Right.

You don't get here without LeBron. I think the Warriors have a better chance of getting where they are without Steph than the Cavaliers have of being in the finals minus LeBron. I voted LeBron third. Who was second? Kawhi Leonard? Kawhi. You know why I did LeBron third?

Because the weird subtweet stuff. To me, it's like most valuable also means like, are you a good teammate? Yeah. And I thought LeBron was a shitty teammate this season it's like why are you taking when your team is in a little bit of turmoil why are you taking Instagram pictures with you and Dwayne Wade working out in Miami what does that mean

you're a free agent at the end of the year why do you want your guys to even wonder what that means I think LeBron treats his team like they're his girlfriend so like you do things the girlfriend that he's not gonna marry yeah like you yeah you do things like like thinking about what people do in relationships so like you get into a fight with your girl and then like you go out to like a club or you like

post an instagram picture of you out with some girl at like a club or a bar or some like friend of yours you know she kind of doesn't like just to like rile her up a little bit to get her like like blood pumping he does things he does things to his teammates that you would do in a relationship and not even like and it's clearly not a good relationship i see your analogy but if i had ever done that to my wife i would have gone to bed that night she would have waited a half hour and then she would have put a pillow over my head and murdered me and i would be dead but that's different between your wife and your girlfriend. Like when you're, it's a girlfriend. When she was my girlfriend, it would have been the same thing.

She just would have poured gasoline in the bed and set it on fire. So I never really had the opportunity to do stuff like that. Yeah, like sub-tweeting and like, you know it's about you. So then you have to like have the conversation. You just like, you respond differently. like it's like these weird things you do these passive aggressive things people do to try to get a response out of somebody all right make a prediction i'm gonna go oh you want to take okc i could feel it you do i'm gonna go calves I'm going to go Cavs.

I'm going to go Cavs-Warriors rematch. Me too. I have Warriors over Cavs. I think the OKC thing. I'm going to go Cavs-Warriors rematch. I think Warriors-Thunder goes to seven. Me too. I think it goes seven.

I think, you know who wants it to go to seven? The NBA. The NBA, of course. And the officiating will be structured very carefully to always get people thanks to Blue Apron stop ordering expensive takeout for less than $10 per meal Blue Apron will deliver you all the fresh ingredients you need for a delicious and healthy

home cooked meal right now you can get your first 2 meals for free by going to blueapron.com slash BS. Thanks again to 5-4 Club. It's a $60 a month high-end clothing membership that will provide you with stylish clothes that are bound to make you stand out in the crowd. Go to 5-4club.com.

Use promo code BS at signup for 50% off your first package. That is $120 worth of clothing for for 30 for your first month's package don't forget about the ringer podcast network keeping it 1600 the watch ringer nba show ringer nfl show all new feeds you should subscribe to don't forget about any given wednesday june 22nd on hbo and uh and trayvon we didn't talk about Hamilton this time. Oh, yeah, man. We'll save it. I still haven't gone.

Yeah, you got to go, man. You got a month and a half. You preach to the Church of Hamilton. Oh, yeah. I am the pastor, the most evangelical Hamilton fan you'll ever meet outside of their family members probably. And you're doing a Hamilton podcast. I am. It's not up yet though.

We just recorded episode seven. We're going to get a good backlog. It's hard to book people because they're all so busy. But I think we're going to start releasing the end of this month, like first week of June, I think. And what's the title of the podcast? It's called The Room Where It's Happening. Okay.

And is my son going to be a guest at some point or no? Maybe like a 10-minute guest? We actually actually want to have they're doing edgy ham where they're like letting shows uh they're shows that are all just kids and so we want to actually talk to the kids about the show he'll come on and do one of his one of his raps yeah i'd like he speaks french he's learned how to speak french from hamilton tell him to bring it on and he. He'll be a star. Are you sure he can wear a Colonial Soldier outfit to the Hamilton show? Oh, yeah. There's plenty of pictures of kids wearing their costumes.

They love it. Okay, good. Because I can never tell if my son is a complete psychopath or not, so I always take comfort in the behavior of other children. It would probably be the most adorable thing at the show. Alright. My son loves Hamilton, hockey, and wrestling. I don't know what all that means. All I'm missing is like a...

I don't know. Those three things together. I hit two or three out of four of them. You hit two or three. And he knows so little about baseball that he wasn't offended by your Yankee Stadium thing on your desk. Trayvon Free, you can check him out on Twitter. At Trayvon.

At Trayvon. And are you going to do stand-up when you're in la i am i'm still trying to get settled uh before i jump back on the stand-up stage so i can get my my life scheduled and settled and get into a flow we're gonna do a big ringer show this summer we're gonna do like two live podcasts you're gonna do some stand-up brandon lynch is gonna do stand-up we're gonna do like try to cross all of the beams in the ringer any given Wednesday stand-up

tour yeah yeah yeah we're gonna we're gonna do we have a lot of fun stuff coming up I am super excited and it's been great to start working with you get to know you a little bit hey this has been so much fun this is fun alright thank you for that and everybody enjoy the weekend anytime y'all wanna see me again rewind this track right here close your eyes This is fun. All right. Thank you for that. And everybody, enjoy the weekend.

Anytime y'all want to see me again, rewind this track right here. Close your eyes. Pitching me rolling.