The Bill Simmons Podcast - Guess the Lines Week 3 With Cousin Sal | The Bill Simmons Podcast (Ep. 415)

Episode Date: September 17, 2018

HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs' incredible performance against the Steelers, The Patriots' loss to the Jaguars, The Sunday kicker epidemic, and the Canelo vs. GGG rematch before they guess the NFL Lines for week 3. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I didn't enjoy it that much. How about you? Oh, the whole day? I thought the early games, there were three or four compelling endings. It ended on a low note with that Giants-Cowboys game, which featured, I think, two of the, as I tweeted, five or six worst teams in the league. We're going to notice, I think. Well, my perception was tainted slash colored by the crappy Patriots game.

So I don't care if there were other good games. I've been in a bad mood ever since. I guess we could start with that. What really happened? That was not Pats football. I don't want to start with the Pats. Let's hold that off. Let's start with something positive.

Let's start with them and then talk about them in the middle and end with them. I'm going to talk about it a lot. It's rare that my team wins and yours loses. Let's start with the two biggest winners of the weekend. First of all, one Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes mania is upon us. You and I were all in. We have them to win the AFC West.

Did we bet them to win the AFC? I don't know if we did. I picked the Chiefs-Rams Super Bowl. I have Mahomes on one of my fantasy teams. I wanted him on two. I've had him in daily fantasy both weeks. And I really think he might be able to walk on water. This is a really genuinely exciting quarterback.

I'm thrilled. I'm pumped. I'm jacked. What are your feelings? I feel that not even Andy Reid could screw this up. I mean, he is perfect for Andy Reid because you don't want a close game late

in the fourth quarter if you're Andy Reid for obvious reasons. And I think Mahomes is going to get you there. He's going to get you that breathing room. And they're going to put up 35-40 a game. I don't know. There'll be some games where they'll misstep. But he is so good. Even his incomplete passes are

in a way where he's not going to get picked off. He slings it over the middle and he's... Once they get familiar with the degree of strength that he's throwing the ball, I think it's going to be great. I think Kelsey open like 20-25 yards down

the field is automatic. These guys are able to catch the ball and not get barreled over. It's fun to watch, man. It really is. That was the best game of the day. So there was a home story that last year, every time he went head-to-head with Alex Smith and anything or they were in drills, that he was just better.

And everyone in the Chiefs knew he was better. And I never, sometimes you hear those stories and then you never know whether to actually believe them or not, or if they're getting floated out to try to pump up the new guy. In this case, I can't even imagine what it was like in practice every day last year with this guy versus Alex Smith. He's got one of the best arms I've seen in the NFL. It's, it's a fucking cannon. Um, I tweeted today that he reminded me of a combo of, I think it was young Brett Favre, Tecmo bowl, Randall Cunningham, who didn't even have Randall Cunningham and Tecmo bowl. It just said Eagles QB that he wasn't even named. And then a rifle man from against, uh, from, uh,

all the right moves. So I maintain what one of the great sports movie QBs ever, if not one of the top three, this guy has something of all those things. Which of those three does he remind you of the most? I think Randall Cunningham. Now that you said it, um, like a short,

short Randall Cunningham. I think he's doing the, what are the Milton Berle? Just enough. I don't even think we've seen the best of it. I mean, we saw the 70 yard touchdown pass andyard touchdown pass in the preseason, or the 70 yards in the air, rather.

But I think there's so much more this guy has. And like I said, when the receivers become fully in sync with him, Kelsey had like six yards last week, and then he was the man this week. I think everybody's going to get better as the season goes on. And I think your Rams Chiefs bet, that's rock solid. Everything's reactionary over two weeks, but

my son Archie actually said to me, Rams Chiefs would be the first Super Bowl he was alive for that a lot of people didn't hate either of the teams. That's interesting. I would like to see that. It is funny. Last year we had Wentz and Watson. Everybody got I was like, yeah, that's interesting. I would like to see that. It is funny. Last year we had Wentz and Watson.

Everybody got super excited about those guys, and rightly so. And then Watson got hurt. Mahomes is more excited than either of those guys. And I love Deshaun Watson. I thought he was thrilling to watch last year. Mahomes is at a whole other level. And what's interesting is, you know, I had financial incentives in the Chiefs today. They're up 21-0.

Their defense is a dumpster fire, you know. So the Steelers score is 21-7. It was actually 28-0 for a quick second. And then they called that back, that defensive play. Yeah, Ben had two turnovers that miraculously got called back by the ladies' man, Tim Meadows. But they show Reed on the sidelines, and there's just all that Chiefs baggage, right? There's just – and the Philly baggage too.

It's just, oh, yeah, Andy Reed. Of course he's going to blow this game. And then Mahomes, as soon as – it's 21-21. Mahomes comes out. He just makes shit happen. 28-21. All right. Then he comes back out. He scores again.

I mean, it seemed like he had a chance to get eight touchdowns at one point. There was a play like if they'd gotten the ball back on one of those turnovers, Nephew Kyle and I were all fired up because we felt like this is going to happen. He's going to throw eight touchdowns. We're going to witness this. But he only threw six. So 10-2

days. I don't know if you were following the live line, but both teams at one point or another were three to one odds to win. When the Steelers went and did they tie? They did tie it, right? They did. It was 21-21. Yeah.

Yeah, they tied it and I think had the ball. And I think they were like a three to one favorite. And then the Chiefs obviously had three to one on them early on when it was 21, nothing and 21, seven and all that stuff. But yeah,

that was a fun game. I think the Steelers are in a little bit of trouble here. The Bengals were plus three 95, uh, entering the week to win after the Thursday game, actually to win the division. I was like, Oh my God,

doesn't it? It seems like a lot of value in that. They can go eight and six the rest of the way. That might be good enough. Wait, is that the line right now? No, it was going into the Sunday game. Now that the Steelers have a loss, it's probably still about two and a quarter or something.

I got to say, the Steelers have started out slow before, and I'm desperately trying not to overreact. It just doesn't seem like they have a lot of good players in their team. And it was a little bit of coming to grips with what I was watching with the Patriots today, which is another one where I don't want to overreact, but the Patriots had guys on the field that we just haven't counted on before, like third to nine and it's Corderell Patterson and Phillip Dorsett and Sonny Michelle and some left tackle that nobody had ever heard of until six months ago. And, um, they, they're just, they're just new unproven guys in big spots.

And I felt the same way watching, uh, watching Pittsburgh, not a lot of familiar faces anymore from the teams that we remember from five, six, seven years ago, Ben looks, you know, one play looks great, next play looks terrible. My mindset, I like the Chiefs. I actually bet on the Moneyline today in that game. My mindset is their defense sucks. They're just going to outscore teams. I don't know how long they can do that,

and I don't know how that translates in cold weather and stuff like that. But it does seem like they have the best offense in the NFL right now. Maybe, I don't know, would you put them, where would you put them against the Rams? I guess the Rams have better running back. I think the Rams, I put the Rams at number one. It's very strange with them, but I think they're one, two.

Who's number three right now? I think that's, I think it's one, two, and then it drops off would be my... There's a big difference. Especially after what we saw from New Orleans today, which would have been, you would have thrown them in. Maybe, is it, I know it's been two games, but is it too early to say Tampa? So crazy. So crazy.

Jameis was minus 400 to start when he got back in week four. What do you think it is now? I don't have the odds, but it can't be better than even for him. I would say he's minus 400 to get traded. To get traded? Interesting. Why wouldn't they trade him? He's not going to play again this year.

He's not going to be happy about it. This Fitzpatrick thing. I got to say, we talked about it last week and I think I talked about it with House too about every year there's a 2-0 team and everybody goes oh my god can you believe it they're 2-0 where'd this come from the Bucks were the most logical candidate

with that said I didn't think they would be able to score on Philly as effortlessly as they did you know cause it's not like Philly's a little banged up, but on defense they're not that banged up. They give up some big plays and they're just

explosive. Maybe this is the team they should have had last year if Jameis had played better. Jameis just didn't play well last year. I thought it was going to be ugly. I thought it was going to be a 16-10 game. We discussed it last week. I said Fitzpatrick, the Eagles have tape on them. Not everyone has tape on them, but they had 10 days to prepare.

Their defense was decent last week against the Falcons. And then they just get on you early. Like, I didn't even get out of the car, and it was 7-0. And then 14, it's like Deshaun Jackson, who somehow is like the comeback player of the year for week two. And you know what they did? They did it with 44 yards rushing. That's astounding.

Like you did, they didn't even, they controlled the game by passing. Like Fitzpatrick didn't slow down at all for 60 minutes. It's going to be interesting to see where it stops. And they play the Steelers this week on Monday night. So yeah. I got to say, we had that game on one of the small TVs and I, so I didn't, couldn't hear the sound.

I have no idea who tape was running backwards today. Yeah. Like Peyton Barber. I think he had like 25 yards or something. Oh my God. Well, that's been the Fitzpatrick thing's been really fun. He let, you know, everybody's made the same Colin McGregor joke on Twitter. So let's retire that one. Um, he's had fun at the press conference. It's a great bit. The press conference showing up saying we're humble. Yeah. Well it is, you know, he is had fun at the press conference. It's a great bit. The press conference showing up saying we're humble. Yeah. Well, it is, you know, he is somebody that's produced. And I tweeted today about, uh, about Sam Bradford, who's just been terrible. His whole career is 34 and 47 lifetime and gets hurt every other year.

Um, there's no real evidence that he can be a quarterback on a playoff team. He's never won eight games in a season. Keeps getting chances. Fitzpatrick's at least gone 10-6 on the Jets. I think he's had two seasons where he's thrown for 3,800 yards. This isn't completely

incomprehensible. I think it'd be more incomprehensible if Sam Bradford was doing this. Yeah, for sure. This is going to be interesting. I think he has to start, right? He has to start. Was he picked up in our fantasy league?

No, I don't think he was. He wasn't even picked up after last week? I don't even think Deshaun Jackson was. No, because it was still, you know, still probably Philadelphia was going to win and probably Jameis was going to be the quarterback, but yeah, no one picked him up to start him this week. Well, and it's going to be a whole week of Mahomes and Fitzpatrick. Those are going to

be the big stories this week. You'll read stuff over and over again about them. Those were two of my three winners of this week. The other one was Nephew Kyle, who got his first tattoo. Friday, it was a big day for Nephew Kyle. He had some tweet about taking the bus to work. I retweeted it, had some fun with it. And Nephew Kyle, what did you have at the start of Friday? Like 1,500, I don't know. He had like 1,500 Twitter followers. I did a couple of tweets.

Titus did a tweet. Within 24 hours, he was over 10,000 Twitter followers. So that was both delightful and frightening because Nephew Kyle is a young guy in his mid-20s who likes to go out and have a good time so i had to send him the the text like please don't tweet anything after you've had like three drinks he's like absolutely he's been good about that um but anyway he he had the day off on friday because we finished all the pods at like 10 o'clock. So he just, he took off, went down to the Melrose area and decided to get his first tattoo ever. Wow.

I mailed it to you. Yeah, no, I saw it. Well, he got a tattoo. I didn't know it was his first ever. He got a tattoo of the podcast he works for, which I was really touched and honored. And it wasn't this podcast. He got a tattoo for the one shining podcast hosted by titus and tay frasier he got osp with a palm tree through the s explain what the hell you were

thinking kyle it just needed to be something more than letters i didn't want to look like like a gang or something you thought that osp would look like your jail yeah it could be like a thing i don't know so the palm tree was because. I mean, the first one was going to be dumb, right? That's what I hear. I didn't feel like it was that dumb. I just thought it was an interesting choice to get not this podcast as your dad.

So it'd be your face. Cause I don't care. I don't care. I put BS on my left shoulder. No, no, no. I care.

I care. Well, I want to know what number tattoo would our podcast be? Like, are we in the top five of your next tattoos? I honestly feel like he would get a House of Carbs tattoo before BS. Those were like his first two. Let's hear the honest list.

Don't worry about insulting anybody. Yeah, House of Carbs would be second. Yeah, but like the House of Carbs, I want it. It'd have to be like a special place. Like it'd have to be like a stomach tattoo, like around my belly button or something. Like the O would be my belly button or something. BS could be somewhere. That's like a special place. Like it had to be like a stomach tattoo, like around my belly button or something. Like the O would be my belly button or something. BS could be somewhere. That's like a shoulder tattoo. I mean, it was an action-packed weekend for Netflix.

Single again, for those of you scoring at home. He's been single for three days. You're keeping score. Got a tattoo. It's going to be more than three days that that tattoo is shown, I think. My God. I think you're right, Sal.

And then told a story today about how he went to canters at 2 30 in the morning last night and then threw up an egg sandwich on top of what happened why did your roommate get mad at you i woke up to throw up and i didn't leave the bed and you but you threw up in the trash can onto the floor into the trash can and fell asleep so you missed the trash can mostly sal you do the character of the year every year. You send this out to a select group of people, and you try to figure out who the biggest character in our lives is,

and you have a whole point system, the whole thing. This nephew, Kyle, is really the Mahomes of the character of the year, I think. This is a very big week, yeah. And I hope he doesn't go away. I hope he sticks around like Fitzmagic. I think he's going to, I think, I predict great things for nephew Kyle. How many tattoos do you hope to have Kyle? Is this it? Or, you know, this can't be it.

I'll cross the next tattoo bridge when I come to it. I'm cool with that. I was more amazed that he didn't have one yet. Cause if you've seen the bars that nephew Kyle goes to, it's like a five tattoo minimum. So he's just going in bare every time. Another subplot for us to talk about. I don't know if this is a crisis, if it's an epidemic, if it's a catastrophe, but the kickers. Oh, yeah.

They're hit and miss every year, no pun intended. This year, it's like an epidemic. This year, it actually swung games where the wrong team won. Minnesota should have won. Cleveland should have won. It's just bizarre that Dan Bailey, your former Dallas kicker, doesn't have a job because I actually felt like he was half decent. By the time people listen to this, I think he will.

Yeah, and the Chargers weren't even in the mix yet. No. That was last week. Yeah. I noticed the tight ends are great this year, and their kickers are miserable. They're worse than ever. I don't know how that happened.

Yeah, like the Rams, their kicker got hurt right before the game against the Cardinals. The other line, yeah. And they just decided to go for two and got it, and they were up 8-0. And it was like, maybe just teams should do that. Well, the Rams definitely shouldn't. You know what I thought?

The Steelers used to also anyway, and they were doing that in preseason, and they were saying they were threatening to do no-huddle offenses and be more aggressive by the goal line. And after touchdowns, I'm like, oh, they're going to be up 8-0, 16-0 on every team in the league. And instead they, especially in Heinz Field, I don't know, no one makes field goals or extra points there.

Boswell missed a couple big ones for Pittsburgh, but they should have lost anyway. Gus Kowski missed one for New England, right? Didn't he miss one? That's like 54, right? Yeah. He usually makes those. It was hot. And then the Browns kicker, who I nicknamed Feedy Gonzalez, he's going to be gone. That was rough.

He's out. How can he play? And I felt bad. He came over to the gone. That was rough. He's out. How can he play? And I felt bad. He came over to the sideline with Hugh, and Hugh probably looked like he was saying, don't worry. We both suck. We're going to have jobs forever.

Just don't let it get you down. He's got to be gone too. It was a very enjoyable weekend for Hugh Jackson. He has Josh Gordon, who I guess had finally came to a crisis this weekend. What were the odds that wasn't going to work out? Off the boards in Vegas? Somebody spent $15, our friend Tony spent $15 on Josh Gordon, our fantasy league. I didn't know what the fuck was going on. The guy hasn't, he literally played 10 good games five years ago or 12 in 2013.

Year six of him. He hasn't been productive for five years. There's no evidence that he could even make lattes in a Starbucks for two hours. He didn't even look good in hard knocks. They edit everybody to look

like an all pro. He arrived and they showed very little footage of him. I don't know what the high hopes were for. And dumbass Hugh Jackson, who's been let down by this guy two years in a row and he's on hard knocks. He's like the Eagles landed. Remember that? It was like Josh,

Josh Gordon's here. I was like, Oh great. Josh Gordon's here to fuck up our fan, our, our real, our real NFL team again. So they finally have to cut the ties with him this weekend.

So they have to deal with that whole drama. And then he's got this, this kicker thing, which, you know, I blame the kicker because the kicker wasn't making the kicks, but at the same time, there's Hugh trying to,

this kicker who's already had basically an emotional breakdown in this game. He's, he's dovetailed about as badly as a kicker can dovetail during game. I didn't have confidence that he could make. What's the longest kick do you think he could have made to win the game in that situation? 30? 29?

Yeah, probably right in there, yeah. So they have eight seconds left. Hugh just brings him out. He doesn't make extra points. Hugh just brings him out. All right, let's try that. What was it, like a 52-yarder, 50-yarder? Yeah, it was up there.

Yeah, like that had any chance. He missed it by, I don't know, 20 yards. I hate to blame him because he was terrible, but we all got the feeling the Browns were going to lose that game, right? In fact, I was going to text you, and then I was like, yeah, maybe I won't. The Saints were plus 225 in the late third, early fourth. Like they're not going to lose this game.

I don't care what needs to happen. And even in the fourth and five play where Terod Taylor throws, Callaway just caught it. I wasn't worried even then. The Saints are going to come down and score and win. You were trying to rope me into a Saints tease all week and I would not bite

because I did not enjoy the fact that they gave up 48 points to the Saints. Would have been exciting. Defense looked better today. Offense still in in general, they don't seem right. That's my take on it. I think they had like one, Kamara had 6.1 yards a carry, I think. Something insane like that last year.

I think it was like 1.8 either over the last two games or just today or something. So I don't know if Ingram makes that much of a difference mixing it up, but yeah, for sure, they don't look right on offense. Yeah. People were predicting the Kamara regression. Actually, they were saying like his, whatever his, uh, yards per touch last year was completely unsustainable and that nobody had ever done it. And nobody had a chance of doing it two years in a row. He was on a lot of don't draft him or spend as much money on him as you think you should list.

I don't know what to believe. I just know that they have not looked right. The Cleveland thing though, just classic. You know, it was the Saints made everybody sweat out that tease, worry about it, fret about it. And then they ended up covering them. The other ones, The other obvious teasers were the Chargers-Bills. That game

was over in five minutes. And then Rams-Cardinals was over in like three minutes as we predicted on Friday. Right. Chargers-Bills was over in 30 minutes, according to one of their players who freaking just retired. Yeah, Vontae Davis.

Shout out to him. You know, it's funny. As it was going on, I was telling the story to the fellows about my four-year-old who wants to quit soccer because the other teams are just better. And as I'm telling that story, I saw your tweet on this. You said unreal or incredible. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's what this is. This is a four-year-old quitting the team because everybody else

is better. There's no prospects. So bizarre. Set the odds for me right now. Let's go to the Captain Morgan's fake bleep casino. Impromptu. Who has the first pick in the draft next year? The Bills or the Cardinals?

Oh, man. I have to see their schedule. Let me see. All right. You know what? I'm going to give you a week. We'll answer this a week from now. Okay.

It's too important. We could eliminate both of those, right? We like to cross teams off. They're definitely gone. Yeah. I had in my notes, I had cross-offs, Buffalo and Arizona. We're two weeks in. We've crossed off two teams.

I'll be honest. You could talk me into crossing the Giants off, too. I was going to say the Raiders are sniffing around too. Did you watch that game though? The Raiders game? That was the best cars looked in two years. The Broncos kind of stole that game.

The Gruden. No, I know, but that's what makes it worse. They have that loser feel to them. No matter what, they're going to go down. And I think with the Chargers being as good as they are and the Chiefs, they're in a lot of trouble. We don't have to cross them off yet. I think Buffalo and Arizona are unequivocal cross-ups.

Arizona, there was some stat that they didn't get over to the Rams' end of the field until the last play of the game. Did you see that one? Yeah, I did see that. And it was the first time since God knows how long, but they're awful and Buffalo's awful. And the Rams, Gurley was 19 for 42 on the ground. It just seemed like he could have scored from anywhere at any time.

Only 19 for 42. Stuck his head in the end zone any time he could, but the Rams are dynamite. We're going to take a quick break. Football season is underway. I'm sure a lot of us already have major regrets about our season-long fantasy teams. I'm not one of them.

I'm 2-0 in both my leagues, including the one with Nephew Kyle. The deflators are 2-0, baby. Yeah. Mahomes and Rivers. Yeah, we got two quarterbacks in this league, and we got two good ones. But, you know, you never know know, you gotta cover your bets.

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Do it for the BS podcast. It's free for God's sakes. The least you can do is join Fanduel. Back to Sal. All right, we're back. You and I, we've both been on this Rams thing where, and this was one of your picks on Lock It In this week on Friday, that the Rams are one of those old school,

like early 90s Cowboys type teams where they don't take their foot off the pedal. Keep going. They have the lead. They keep throwing. Almost like borderline running it up, but they've done a nice job of extending leads. And I had them in a tease,

which I went on with them and the chargers, but I wish I had just taken them straight up to, I don't know what I was thinking. Arizona, especially San Bradford. Is there a better matchup for the Rams defense and Wade Phillips and Sam Bradford? You know exactly what you're getting with that guy,

right? How is he going to hurt you? He's going to hurt Larry Fitzgerald. That's about it. for the Rams defense and Wade Phillips and Sam Bradford, you know exactly what you're getting with that guy, right? True. How is he going to hurt you? He's going to hurt Larry Fitzgerald. That's about it. The way he's leading them over the middle and everything. They weren't going to break 14. At some point, just... Anyone who drafted him in fantasy, that's not

an offense that's going to score a lot of touchdowns this year. Yeah, at some point, just get Josh Rosen out there and let's see what we got. Because Sam Bradford should know. So who goes next? That's another one that we could get. Is Rosen, Rosen, Mayfield. Who am I missing?

Who's the third one? Mayfield. The only three that haven't started. But Mayfield should be playing. Tyrod's done. You think he'll play Thursday? Tyrod's done jack shit. I don't know.

I don't know if I'd play him on a Thursday game. I would probably. By the way, that's our Thursday night matchup, Jets-Browns. Yeah, I know. They showed the promo. I just started laughing. I would not start

him on a Thursday night game. I would do it right after this Thursday game. I would give him the 10 days to really try to figure out what he had. The thing is that... I'm not the first person to say this, the Browns could and should be two and oh, and the Browns defense is actually pretty good. I think they're not in the bottom 15 defenses. I think they make stuff happen.

So, um, man, I wanted them to tie so badly because of the press conferences become more and more bizarre as you rack up the ties, right? I mean, if they're 0-0-2, I would have loved to see the positive spin Hugh Jackson puts on it and everybody else. 0-0-2, that couldn't have ever happened before. Oh, I don't think so.

Has a team ever having two ties happen before? Can't imagine that's happened before. Maybe. One of the degenerate trifecta from your podcast, Against All Odds, you mentioned how they wanted to bet the under on ties. What was the under on ties? The over a half, that there would be a tie was minus 240, so that there wouldn't be one, but would be plus 200. And then they changed it

this week after this week, after there was a tie, they said, all right, same thing over one and a half ties is minus 240 under is plus 200. And they just keep racking up ties. So which trifecta member was the one who wanted to bet that? Yeah, Aaron, the parlay kid was all over it. My favorite part of this was the parlay kid was on Twitter denying that he actually made the bet. I talked about it. I never actually went through with the bet. It was like Kavanaugh and the Supreme Court hearings. I'm not going to confirm or deny whether he jumped on that one.

Unbelievable. Yeah, the Browns, you knew there was going to be a lot of comedy from that hard knock season. And they've delivered in spades. The funny thing is if you wave your field goal kicker this weekend, it's not like seven other teams don't need a field goal kicker. So what do you do? And what happened to the poor, the Korean kicker who came on my podcast

who was on the Chargers for two games and shanked like one kick and has never been seen again. Why can't that guy come back? That guy missed like two kicks. Nephew Kyle has a tattoo of his face on his bosom, but that's about it, I think. Nephew Kyle will get a tattoo of this guy if he saves the Browns season.

I think the Browns season might be salvageable. They're not going to be terrible. But they were in a lot of games last year, too. They just can't win. They just don't know how to put it away. Here's my roadmap to save the Browns. The Jets kill them on Thursday night in their own three, and they fire Hugh.

And then anybody comes in and brings them the 10 and 6, and they sneak in. Right. Not inconceivable. Actually, the way the AFC looks, that could be nine and seven. Right? What could be nine and seven? You might make the playoffs being nine and seven in the AFC, right?

Oh, for the big seed. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. You have six teams? Who's better than we thought they'd be? Like the Bengals? I mean, we like them. The Jets are probably going to go away.

I don't know about Tennessee. Well, you know who's 6-0 right now? Who's that? The three Florida teams. Florida's undefeated this year. Is that right? Yeah. I looked that up.

I need to look at that. I had my crack analytics staff. They looked that up. They added up the 2-0s on the three Florida teams. And it's 6-0. Wait a minute, Miami 2-0, Jacksonville 2-0, Tampa 2-0. Yeah, that. 2-2-2.

Yeah, you're right. That's 6. That adds up to 6-0. So what we did there is we added up the wins. But yeah, so are six AFC teams going to get to 10 wins? I would say the only locks, is there a lock? Would you say any AFC team's a lock to get to 10 wins? Well, barring injury, I love the Chiefs.

Okay. Come on, your Patriots are going to have 10 wins. Like, I think the Rams are a lock to get 10 wins. I think something catastrophic would have to happen. Like, they would have to crash their bus or something, and guys would have to break kneecaps and things. I don't see any way they don't get 10 wins. I don't feel like there's an AFC team that I completely like.

You like the Patriots. The Patriots are going to go 4-1 or 5-1 in the division. All right, are we going to do this now? You're fine. I don this now? You're fine. I don't feel like we're fine. I don't feel like we're bad. I just, this is going to be a big test of the Brady Belichick infrastructure.

There are a lot of people on this team now that have not been part of, of the, of the good times. Right. I know. But what just went, what went wrong today? I understand sometimes teams just want it more

and there's a little bit of a payback factor. I mean, a lot of bit of a payback factor with Jacksonville AFC Championship. But talk about taking your foot off the pedal. It wasn't Belichick football. Fourth and one a couple of times, you could have gone for it. Could have figured something out. And it didn't seem kind of seemed like he was giving

the game to him. It's very strange. I did gone for it. Could have figured something out. And it didn't seem, kind of seemed like he was giving the game to him. It's very strange. I did not enjoy it. It all started on that first drive. Gronk got just blatantly held right in front of the dude. They didn't call it because they, you're not allowed to call PI on Gronk. And then the guy landed on Brady, which was a new rule this year. He followed through and tackled him and then put his whole body in and didn't call it.

And then the Jags came down and scored 7-0. Comes back down fourth and inches and Belichick punted. Why? We were near midfield at that point too, right? Whenever he does that, I always feel like he doesn't

believe in the team. I know that's crazy, but I've been watching this guy for two decades, and it's like when he's all in on the team, it's a no-brainer. I just think there's a lot of guys in this team that he doesn't have a feel for. Like Patterson's a mess. You can understand why the Vikings gave up on him. He's not a typical Pats guy. They really miss that Edelman, Amendola,

security blanket guy. They don't have that this year until Edelman comes back. They'll get Edelman back, but he's a slot guy. Who do you put on that right side? Philip Dorsett seemed like he was going to be the guy for a minute. They took him out today. They doubled Gronk.

They knew Dorsett was going to be the other possession guy. And then Sonny Michel just looked rusty. I'm not willing to jump to whatever on him yet. And then the left tackle, Waddle, he gave up the biggest play of the game. Who would you be more upset about if they signed Josh Gordon or Dez Bryant? Josh Gordon just set the money on fire. Seriously.

That's better than what you have now at number two there, right? You sign him and he does well for two games, and then he doesn't show up on Thursday. You can't sign that guy. There's no way that guy flies on the Pats. I got to be honest. We'll send Des your way. I'm not a Des fan, but I do feel like he's better than

Cordero Patterson at least he can't separate from anybody but at least he can catch the ball in traffic and stuff he'll catch the ball, he'll complain he'll get pass interference calls I'm starting to think he's a decent fit right now for this team

well Brady will know when Brady does interviews tomorrow we'll know if he kind of sends the bad signal out for this team. Well, Brady, we'll know when Brady does interviews tomorrow, we'll know if he kind of sends the bat signal out for a receiver, would be my guess. My fear is that Wes Welker is probably like catching balls in a warehouse right now. Stay tuned for another comeback. They play the Lions next week, which I think is good for them.

By the way, I have a – you're going to be excited. I made a list. I actually did some work for the pod. Are you proud of me? Go ahead. What is it? What happened? It's my list.

I power ranked all the terrible early season Belichick Brady era losses in the first four or five weeks of the season over the last two decades that lead to the Boston sports media freaking out and saying it's over and all that. I power rank them. Coming in at number one, Monday night against the Chiefs in 2014, which is when Trent Dofer,

Trent Dofer, what did he say? The Patriots are done. It's over or whatever he said. That's number one. Or was that 15? the Patriots are done it's over or whatever he said yeah that's number one um or was that 15 no it was 14 no cause I was suspended

they made the Superbowl that year right yeah yeah I was suspended because I was the only person who either liked the Pats

or was associated covering the Pats or whatever who didn't who didn't say they were done after that game because I wasn't allowed to tweet.

You weren't allowed to speak. Yeah, so nobody actually knows my thoughts. You were done too. I always believed, as far as everyone out there knows. I always believed even after that chips game. Number two, Buffalo 2003. Oh, yeah. That was when they traded Drew Bledsoe and they lost 31 to nothing.

There's a page two column way back when that I wrote 15 years ago about that and a Red Sox loss same day. Number three, San Diego 2005. I am rating number four today, Jacksonville 2018. Number five, KC last year, the Monday night game. And then after that, Zona 2012, Jets 2009, Denver 2006. My point is this happens

pretty much every other year with the Brady Belichick pats and everybody freaks out and it's fine. And they'll be fine. Well, you shouldn't freak out because they were anywhere from a one to a two and a half point favorite. So they weren't supposed to dominate this game. And a lot of those, actually a lot of those games you just listed, they were only like a three point

favorite. And by the way, kudos to the Jags. They played really well. Bortles was fantastic. They really did. Cole was one of the best receivers of the day. He made some awesome catches. They had a great game plan. I don't think you're going to come up with a better catch than that one

he made, where he whipped his arm around like a pitching machine and held on to the ball.. I guess you could do a flip and do that and it would be a little better. That was spectacular. Grant was really dangerous as their Shane Vereen type running back, Darren Sproles type running back.

I thought their front seven got a lot of push. They totally outplayed the Pats. It's so weird with the pros and Joes and everything. We have Todd Furman on this lock-it-in show, and he's a pro, and he's a Vegas guy, and Vegas line analyst. And I'm like, all right, go ahead.

Take the Jags all you want, but tell me how they're going to score 30 points because that's what they're going to need to win this game. A, and B, Leonard Fournette, it doesn't matter that he's not playing? Nope, doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. It's just a feel.

It's just pros versus Joes. I don't care. As long as it's not Hillary. Doesn't matter. Really, you get the same idea. What goes through these guys' heads? And then it happens. It makes you think part of this game is fixed.

I hate to say it. Well, I will say the one thing that I didn't like when the game started was when they were talking, I was like 97 degrees. I was like, oh, that's probably not good for us. That's a stat we hadn't seen all week, right? Yeah, that's not good for our 41-year-old QB. But I do feel like everything went the Jags way and they played great. If the Pats had scored on that opening drive, who the hell knows?

I thought Bortles was good. They let the Pats back in and then Brady got stripped on, on the biggest play of the game. And then weirdly Belichick punted with, what was that Kyle? Fourth and one, eight minutes left. Belichick punted.

It was like, he just wanted to get out of there. I didn't like it. I don't, I don't love what I'm seeing from this Pats team from a talent standpoint would be my one note, because I do think, you know, whiffing yet again on a first round pick because the guy got hurt,

but the guy who was supposed to be the left tackle got hurt. And then not having a pick from DeFleck gate. So you basically have two non first round or two whiffs for first rounders in this team. I use the word whiff liberally, but. The best thing that happened to the Patriots is that the Jets are not good. We know now. I don't know. Maybe they're not going to be the surprise team that gets 10 or 11 wins.

Miami could be okay. The Bills are just walk away. They're done. 10 and 6, 11 and 5 is going to win the division, even if they lose this week. Miami has a chance to be the team that goes 10-6,

but doesn't beat a team with a winning record. There's that team every year, and I think they're a candidate for that. Yeah, I think the best thing that happened in the past is just that they get to stay in the AFCs. If they had the Bengals in their division, or even a team like the Chargers, you'd go, oh man.

Somebody can get them. But I don't think, as long as they get to 10 wins, I think they're okay. Let's do a little guess the lines. Thursday night. Oh, let's do it. Thursday night, Cleveland at home with a new kicker and the same coach

against the New York football Jets. I pick the Browns to be favored by three points. All right. You're going to nail it. Exactly. I have a problem making the Browns favored by any points because they haven't won a, they haven't won one in 31 over the last two years.

This helps because they haven't won on a Sunday in like three years, but this is a Thursday game. So that's good. You got it. Exactly. It's minus three. I had minus one. two years. This helps because they haven't won on a Sunday in like three years, but this is a Thursday game. So that's good. You got it. Exactly. It's minus three. I had minus one.

I am going to make a recommendation that nobody wagers on this game. Yeah. It's a stay away. If you wager on this game, you have a gambling problem. Much like me gambling on the giants Cowboys game tonight, a game that I put no thought into all week, but then it was 5 o'clock, and I started texting you, and I was like, hey, what do you

think? You like the Giants. We bought it, and then classic. I led you astray, too. I apologize for that. I'm still down on my team. I wanted you to like the Giants because I wanted to bet on them, but I didn't know if you had sent me the text back, like, I don't know, watch out for my guys, I would have backed up. No, my guys on them, but I didn't know if you had sent me the text back, like, I don't know, watch out for my guys,

I would have backed up. No, my guys are bad, like I said. But this is the worst I've seen Eli look. And you just wonder, you know, he's got weapons too. He's obviously got OBJ. He's got Barkley, who swings out of the backfield, does nice things, and he has Ingram as a tight end. You just wonder what would this guy do

with the Jacksonville receivers or somebody, you know, a lesser staff or Tennessee. Like, he's only hanging on because he has talent around him. Not on that offensive line, by the way. Like another five or six sacks, but he's a disaster. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird to put Eli behind that line. That's just going to lose.

And that Giants were a team we talked about before the season. We were like, ah, somebody from the NFC East is going to be surprisingly decent other than the Eagles. And we didn't know who it was. And now I still don't know who it is after two weeks. But I didn't realize their offensive line was that bad. I will say, from a talent standpoint, Barkley is way, way, way, way up there. Like for running backs I've watched in my lifetime,

it is hard to imagine a running back that brings more to the table than that dude does. He's really – I mean, Collinsworth called it out in the first quarter. He made like the first like four times he got the ball, each time he made the first tackler miss. And he must have made, how many tacklers do you think he made miss in that game? Like 15?

Yeah, a lot. And he's kind of bruising too. Like he kind of, he could barrel you also. Which, and I think he's a decent blocker too, from what I'm reading. So yeah, he kind of does it all. That's what I mean. They need him as an offensive lineman as much as anything.

He's spectacular, but they should have taken Sam Darnold. Yeah. In retrospect. If we had all the information we have now, it's just harder to... Yeah, probably. And especially since Darnold Barkley will probably be one, too for Offensive Rookie of the Year all year

long, it seems so. The, uh, the New York media is going to have a field day with that, but I don't know what this jets Cleveland game. I might not watch that much unless it's Mayfield, Darnold. I don't see a lot of,

uh, storylines that are intriguing here. That's awful. Hey, you know, we forgot to, I forgot to bring up the fight, the Saturday night.

Triple G and Canelo. Let's do that before we get to the Sunday games. I had it six rounds to six. If you told me I had to pick a winner, even though I thought it was probably a draw, I had it slightly shaded to Canelo. Slightly. Yeah, wow.

So did you have him winning six of the first eight rounds? I think I had him. Because I thought Triple G won. The only convincing rounds that were won, I thought those were his. And I thought he had like three of those. I thought I had, I can't remember which one, but I had Canelo winning one of the last four. I had a 5-3 Canelo heading into nine.

And then I thought G won three of the last four, but I, the power punches he landed, it was like one 43 to one 13 or something for power punches. Triple G's face looked a little worse. Triple G had better. His best two rounds were better than any two Canelo rounds. I just thought it was a classic draw was weird to me.

Was that Canelo basically won because somebody gave him the 12th round, one of the three judges. Yeah. And you have to think, like, you know, you think the judges do, you know, they score each round based on the round itself. But if you have 6-5, if you have Canelo 6-5 going into the last round, do you want to submit a card that has a draw? Like, you're probably going to give that to Canelo 6-5 going into the last round, do you want to submit a card that has a draw? You're probably going to give that to Canelo.

I wonder if that goes through the scorer's head. I don't want to make this another draw. But what do you do now? Is there a third fight? And then if Triple G wins, is there a fourth fight? Or is he just too old for this? If I'm Triple G, unless you really want the money, which is obviously the factor, I'm like, I can't beat this guy.

They won't let me beat this guy. If it. I'm like, I can't beat this guy. They won't let me beat this guy. If it's 8-4, maybe I could beat this guy. But it's tough. I feel bad for him. I don't think he should be 0-1-1 after two fights. Yeah, you texted me that yesterday, and I thought that was a great point. After 24 rounds, Canelo should not be 1-0 on one against

Golovkin it should be split down the middle those 24 rounds are about as even as you can get I think I've been watching boxing my whole life these guys are about as even as I can remember for a feud I can't even as you're watching

the fight and as my friend Ness was with me last night, and every round we're like, ah, who do you think won that one? And then Letterman would come in, the HBO judge, all right, all right, Jim, I thought that went to Triple G again. And he would do his, he had Triple G up by like four points. I was like, I don't know what the score is, but Triple G is definitely not up by four points.

No, but then, that was early on, but then he came in and he's like, I really have no idea, Jim. I've never heard that from him before. No, it's hard. Well, one thing that was weird, I think triple G landed six body punches, like six body shots, which is astoundingly low. Yeah. And if you're going to, if you're going to, you know, if you're apt to pull for the Mexican style, then Canelo is sure. Then he is going to win these rounds. So also he's a younger fighter, and they want him advancing if there's not going to be a third rematch or second rematch.

It feels like we have to have a third one. I think they should just keep fighting every six months until somebody gets knocked down. Whoever gets knocked down, the whole series ends and that person's declared the winner. It was a good one though. It's weird where I can't even really describe the fight in a sentence. It was like, oh, and then Canelo started moving back or like, it was just kind of, they just kind of kept going at each other. Nobody really wore the hat of like, it was just kind of, they just kept, kind of kept going at each other. Nobody was really, nobody really wore the hat of like, oh, now I'm going to box for a couple rounds. It was just every round, they're just kind of going at it. And it was really hard to

figure out who was winning. Alvarez was more active than he was in the first fight, especially early on. And yet I still feel worse for Triple G this time. I don't know what it is. Yeah, he was definitely way less afraid of Triple G this time, which is funny because in the pre-fight stuff, I heard him say that, that he was like, my big regret, he couldn't hurt me, and I gave him too much respect. I'm not going to do that this time.

I was like, all right, whatever, Canelo. But he really did. He wasn't afraid of him and he took hits from him the whole fight. It was certainly worth the $84.95. For sure. Oh, you got it in HD, huh? $84.95. What's been the most

expensive pay-per-view? Was it Mayweather McGregor? Was that $99? Triple digits, right? I think so. So I'm not getting that one. Those guys are fighting it. I'm not getting that. Mayweather McGregor was that 99 dollars triple digits right I think so so I'm not getting that one those guys are fighting

and I'm not getting that that's ridiculous I'm not doing that nobody wants that I hope that doesn't happen yeah settle down so what happened

during the fight so the fight was bad the first fight and then Mayweather became a billionaire yeah after that

and Pacquiao said bad things about gay people and Pacquiao said bad things about gay people and Pacquiao has a loss, another bad loss on his right. Like what, what, what should excite us about this rematch? I don't understand. Cousin Kyle or nephew Kyle got a tattoo of Pacquiao's face. I don't know. Let's uh, let's take a break. Let's take a break break talk about Starbucks double shot starts with bold Starbucks coffee blended with milk

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Find it in your local convenience store. Starbucks double shot. All right, back to stuff. All right, we're back with the Sunday games. So I have this as the marquee game. LA versus LA. Yeah, for sure. Rams-Chargers.

This is going to be a fun one. I don't know how the Chargers are going to blow this game, but they're going to blow it. And I don't know if they're going to cover. But they might. I have the Rams four and a half point favorites. I put this thing right in the Vegas zone.

So I went slightly higher. It's five. And Vegas is going even slightly lighter higher with minus seven. Whoa. Full minus seven for the Rams. I don't know.

Would the Rams play week one now I'm trying to think nobody good I'm just trying to figure out how much they're beating Vegas up I mean obviously there's a lot of liability on them this week the Rams played the

always dangerous Oakland Raiders in round one oh yeah right right so that was another night game they've lost a lot of money on the Rams already. Well, this line's too high. Although they are begging us to tease it. I think the Rams are good. What I want to see from them is fall behind a little bit

and Goff is pressured a little bit and Goff has to make some plays. Let's see it. I think we have to make some plays. Let's see it. I think we have to keep riding them. I think this is our hot blackjack streak. I know you had them last year all the way as far as they went. I've had money on them both weeks, them and the Chiefs.

I'm happy to just keep throwing them together until one of us gets... I think we have to. It's the only way to get your head above water. I will say with the Chargers, it's a dangerous team if they're down 13 with two minutes left and they have the ball. They have a lot of garbage time TD potential.

Right. And Mike Williams looks like he's back. They're fun, man. This is going to be both fun offenses and their defense step up when they need to. Obviously, I wouldn't be surprised either way, but I'm riding the ramps. We have to do it. Okay. Poop Fecta.

By the way, underdogs, talking about overreacting to week one, underdogs, if you include Thursday, Bengals ended up a slight underdog, 10-5 against the spread. So we should remember that for next year. Yeah, there were like three lines in week two that I knew were off by a couple points based on week one overreactions. And stupidly, I like the overreaction team in like I think all three. Redskins Colts should not have been Redskins by six

because I was terrible with that one no I was with you I had them Redskins I had the Redskins in a tease but like if you just think about it the Colts played a really good game against the Bengals and almost won and then the Bengals beat Baltimore four days later so the Bengals are clearly above

average and maybe even good and then the Bengals beat Baltimore four days later. So the Bengals are clearly above average and maybe even good. And then the Redskins killed this Arizona team that now we have the knowledge that they're horrific. And everybody overreacted and suddenly it was Washington by six. It was stupid. Well, everyone overreacted also to Adrian Peterson. And I think Crowder was their leading rusher today. I think he had like 29 yards or something. And the other one that was clearly too high was the

Niners, which I felt, which is why I stayed away. I didn't put them in anything. I think I even picked the Lions in our picks pool. But just classic. That was a garbage, a little bit of a garbage backdoor, I thought. Oh, it totally was. But I'm just, the Niners, there's not a lot of

teams they should be favored by six points over, I guess is my point. It's not like they're a gem. I thought the Steelers-Chiefs game was a stay away of all stay aways. And I think I was proven right. Because that lot opened at five and a half Chiefs were favored by. Or the Steelers were favored by. And they had no right being that high. The other one, I thought the Broncos Raiders line

was probably a tiny bit too high considering we have no idea what the hell is going on with the Broncos as it turned out they won but didn't cover but that it was just we should remember this for next year there's probably three games with teams that aren't playoff teams that

overreact an extra two points one thing that jumped out in that Broncos game for me is that the running backs, that Lindsey is really good. I don't know how many of you out there listening actually watched even two minutes of that Denver game, but that between him and Freeman and Case Keenum and Sanders, the Broncos aren't horrible. They can move the ball and get a little bit of a pass rush,

even though they almost blew that game. They're not, they're not bad was my take. Yeah. I think they have to figure out who their goal line back is. Cause they keep, it's fine to do running backs by committee, but it Freeman and Lindsay.

And then, uh, I think the Marius Thomas dropped like three or four passes today. Like they could have been, he was bad. They probably could have been in the lead for most of the fourth quarter if not for that. Alright, Poopfecta. Poopfecta

game number one. Dolphins at home. Sorry, Dolphins. I know you're 2-0. But you're playing the Raiders. And I just judge this stuff by... I have four TVs. There's only so many games you could put on them. Is there any chance Dolphins

Raiders cracks a TV for you in two minutes? The answer is no. That's why they're in the poop factor. I have the Dolphins favored. I think there's going to be a point overreaction here. I think the line should be three, but I'm going to say Dolphins by four over the Raiders.

I had four as well. It's a little bit of an overreaction. Only three and a half right now. Dolphins Jets didn't even really make my TV. I had to look for that one. But Dolphins Raiders is not a good one. Nephew Kyle was with me all

day today. How many minutes of Dolphins Jets did we watch, Kyle? Commercials, really. Yeah, just nothing. He was admiring his tattoo. He wasn't watching anything. He was like, oh, I can't wait

to see Tate and Titus. They're going to be so fun if I got the tattoo. Those guys are really going to let me in now. Oh my God. I'm so happy I didn't get a BS pod tattoo.

We're bitter old men here. Vikings, Bills the Vikings he's gotta win that game though right if he's 0-3 he's gotta win one of these winnable games we bet on the Raiders under which is looking really good now that they're 0-2

so what is it they have to it's 7 or less and we win yeah so they'd have to go eight and six the rest of the way to beat us. I'm feeling confident. No way. Even if we didn't have that bet,

it would just be so goddamn fun to root against John Gruden every week. It's just 12 years of frustration by how crappy he was as a Monday Night Football guy. He's really one of my least favorite announcers. I thought he said nothing. I couldn't stand listening to him. And now I'm enjoying watching his ass get kicked every weekend

wearing his little Raiders warmup. And they haven't played the Chiefs or the Chargers yet. They still have four more games against them. Yeah. Vikings, Bills, in Minnesota. I went to 17. That's right. Vikings minus 17. That's right. Vikings minus 17.

That's how I couldn't, I kept trying to think what number would make me want to take the bills against that Vikings, you know, the receivers, the defense, the crowd, and it took 17 to get me to bite.

I feel like I overshoot these giant spreads a lot, so I stayed under 14. I said 13 and a half. Good job by you, Billy. 17 exactly. Oh, wow. Thank you.

Yeah. Say that OSP guys. Let's see if they got that. We got that one. No way. I still like the bikes. Yeah. I don't think we're there.

I don't think we're at a number yet. We're 21, 20, 21. Maybe Coach Zimmer shows mercy on them. But a lot of garbage yards for Allen, right? Garbage yards. I mean, they had a player retire at halftime. 17 points seems fair. It actually inspired him a little bit

they came out and played a little bit better at least for the third quarter they were worried they channeled their fear for where he went into the performance I gotta give credit to Kirk Cousins House was on the pod Friday and we were talking about

I really wanted to take Minnesota in Green Bay and the thing that was holding me back was I couldn't imagine Kirk Cousins beating Aaron Rodgers in Lambeau. I just couldn't wrap my head around that and I was like, I have to stay away. I need to see it from Kirk Cousins.

Now, I wasn't wrong because he didn't beat Aaron Rodgers in Lambeau because they didn't win. If you actually watch that game, Clay Matthews saved his ass with another stupid penalty. But that was a bad, last week he deserved it. This week, I don't know what you're supposed to do. I don't know.

It's like you're playing with your son and you fall on him. Like, yeah, oh, I'm sorry. What are you supposed to do anymore? And that was his second interception in a row, right? Cousins, and that would have buried them. That would have buried them. But he did make a couple of really nice throws to keep him in and was good down the stretch.

And I think Clay Matthews is going to be probably within a year or less in a WWE event. I think that'll be it for him. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I don't think he's playing football in a year, but I do think he could be in hell in the cell. Yeah. I don't think he's playing football on the air, but I do think he could be in hell in the cell. Yeah.

Third poopfecta game, Bears at Arizona. Arizona is just permanent. Bills and Arizona are just permanent poopfecta. You know, someone tweeted or something asked why we start with the poopfecta after the best game, and why don't we just, why don't we, we should watch to the watchable and then barely watch. Because we zip through it. We zip through it. Why, you want to relegate the poopfecta after the best game and why don't we just why don't we we should watch to the watchable and then barely watch we zip through it why you want to

you want to relegate the poop Fecta to the end I just thought you might want to explain yourself we zip through it I like the poop I like going through the poop Fecta because I never want to think these games get I guess we start with the marquee though right yeah but we're supposed to go through the poop Fecta a little bit faster okay I didn't know that

that's my fault. The Bears 3.5 in Arizona. Yeah, you get this. I don't know why. I'm stupid. I said 2.5, and it's 5. You're beating me so far. All right, the barely watchables.

I have Philly at home against Indianapolis. Philly, just classic Super Bowl hangover season so far for them. Definitely a little of the spark is not there. I like what I'm seeing from Luck. He looks okay. I don't know if he's the guy from four years ago, but he's not that far away and can throw the ball and do some stuff. It's not a great team. I do not like anything I'm seeing from the Eagles.

And I think this line's going to be too high. I have the Eagles by six. Wow. I mean, all your analysis led me to a place where I thought you were going to go low here. You looked at these lines. I said five and a half. I swear to God I didn't.

I mean, this is like three in a row exactly, right? But we see this every year, though. I think Vegas gives a lot of respect to a couple of the good teams from the previous year, and this year it's the Saints and the Eagles. They have not shown us that they are the same team as they were last year in any way, and yet they're going to keep getting the respect until half way through the year. How many subpar or average Nick Foles performances is it going to take

before you become a cutter? Like Patriots fans must be this is infuriating, right? Kyle, I may have brought that up to you today. Yeah. As we watched Nick Foles sail like an easy touchdown pass over the into the first row of the stands or something.

I was like, oh my God. And he had his stats. He came back a little bit because, you know, they were in prevent, but not impressive.

Well, I think Wentz is coming back next week. Yeah. Oh, is it next week? I'll tell you one thing I'm tired of seeing. Next week. Next week.

Not Indianapolis. Yeah. It's either, I think it's either this week or next week once it's back. I'm tired of hearing or watching anything about the Philly Special. That play can go fuck itself right in the eyeballs. God, I wish we had stopped that. That Thursday game, the first Thursday game,

if you had over nine and a half mentions of Philly's special and reviewing a clip of it, you would have locked in. Ten easily. That play can go to hell. Next barely watchables. Packers at home again. Lambeau. A grimacing, one-legged

air. Wait, they're at Washington before you. Oh, my bad. I'm going to change my guess. All right, the Packers at Washington. I thought this game was in Green Bay, and you just told me it was in Washington. That's all right. I'm going to have to redo my guess.

I'm going to say Packers by three. Let's see what happens now. I hate everything about what just went down there. I said two and a half. It's exactly three. You got it. They had their first taste of like the shitty Alex Smith game, the Redskins fans,

which will happen from time to time when all those eight to nine yard passes, just the other team's kind of on it and there's no plan B. I do think Chris Thompson might catch 200 passes this year though. It's very possible. Senior team, senior fantasy team. No, I didn't, I didn't take them. No plan B. I do think Chris Thompson might catch 200 passes this year, though. It's very possible. Is he in your team? Is he in your fantasy team? No, I didn't take him.

I think Hench took him. Hench and Dratch. Rogers does not look right. I'm not unveiling any crazy info by saying that. He had the, I can't believe I came back for this walk-on for a good, good out, last hour,

hour and a half, that game. I have, well, he has like a bone, a bone bruise in his knee and other stuff going on. All right,

I'm going to throw it out there. Conspiracy Bill has to enter the fray here. Go ahead. Are we sure Aaron Rodgers? Danica Patrick. No. No. are we sure Aaron Rodgers Danica Patrick no oh man

are we sure Aaron Rodgers doesn't have a torn ACL are we 100% sure torn like what's right below torn like there's a strange right below or. I'm saying, are we sure he doesn't have a torn ACL? No, I'm not sure about anything. Like if I, if I said my bookie has a prop right now that we're going to find out Aaron

Rogers after the season had a torn ACL this whole time and it's plus 800. Would you put it, would you put like 20 bucks on it? Plus 18. Let's go plus 1800. Yeah. I mean, I put 20 bucks on anything. I don't care. But, but so what are you, are you saying that he knows it and is playing with it or that

it was misdiagnosed? Cause a lot of people get fired if he does. No, I'm saying, I'm saying he knows he has a torn ACL and it's like three people know and they're just not saying anything. And he was like, fuck this. I'm not sitting out the season. Has that happened with a quarterback?

It happened with Phil Rivers in the 2007 playoffs. He had a torn ACL and he just played on it and limped around and played through the pain and then got it operated on after the season. Because the thing is, once you tear it, you can't really do any more damage to it so if you put if you put a giant brace on it and he just played with a torn acl and they just didn't say anything and then after the season he had it fixed because once you have it fixed you can can't play. But if it's just torn and you play with the brace, he just seems like he's in an unnatural amount of pain

for it not to be a major knee injury. But I would announce it anyway. If you're going to play on it and you're not going to get anyone in trouble, just announce it. I'd announce every injury. Kyle, you should be complaining about it. You should ask for time off for the pain suffered for the tattoo.

Just milk it, right? And if you're putting up great numbers, not you, Kyle, but Aaron Rodgers. Kyle, what do you think your heroes Tate and Titus would say? That Aaron Rodgers has torn ACL or no? I don't think they would agree. You don't think so? No. Just a theory.

I have no inside info, by the way. I just think it's, I've never seen a quarterback who seems like he's in more pain with a knee thing. And Rodgers isn't somebody that like milks injuries either.

Like, I think he's genuinely hurt. And I just would, it would just be, if only he knew and the trainer and like one other person and the coach

and they were all like all right nobody else knows how do we know torn acl i think he kicked for like six teams this year he's putting no weight on his leg when he throws i've never seen anything like it like he's he's doing everything you know like lopsided uh next barely watchable game is the Jags-Titans. The Titans snuck one out. It turns out the Texans might not be good, and the Pats look probably better than, especially their defense might have looked better last week than maybe they were because the Texans aren't very good.

It bums me out when Watson isn't throwing for four touchdowns, right? And I know he went over 300, but a lot of it was garbage comeback time. It does feel very muted this year, year two of the Deshaun Watson. I have the Jags by seven in Jacksville. What'd you have? Well, I said seven also. It's six and a half. You want to tease that.

That's your first one you want to tease. Could they put the division away if they won this? Interesting. And the Colts lost? Yeah, maybe. Who's beating them in that division? Yeah. You don't like the Eagles on a teaser.

And what else? You don't like the Rams on a teaser. You should like the Rams on a teaser. You should like the Rams on a tee. Rams-Jags could be interesting. I can't think about betting on the Jags yet. It's too close to the pain of today. All right. Yeah, it might be a little letdown game.

Here's an idea. It's 3-9. Maybe put a fucking spy on Blake Bortles. Is Matt Patricia still our defensive coordinator? Right. Maybe have one guy like just making sure he doesn't scramble

because it's like if his first guy is not open, he's running. It's not like he's standing back for six fucking minutes looking for a guy. Like he looks for the first guy. If he's not there, he runs.

How hard is this? Yeah. It's never would have happened if Bill Belichick was still alive. Ravens Broncos in Baltimore. I heard some really, like I heard Coward on the radio on Friday saying how don't overreact to this Ravens.

They are a good team. This is what happens. I think the Ravens are not a good team. I actually completely disagree with them. I think they could have gotten completely blown out in that game if Flacco's pass and their triple coverage was intercepted and they're down 28 at halftime. I do not think they're good.

The only thing I'll say is, first of all, it was a Thursday night game. Maybe throw that out in the big picture. The other thing I'll say is I'm always, always wrong about the Ravens. I'm always selling them short when they're good, and I'm always killing them when they're bad. It doesn't ever pay off for me. First of all, you weren't wrong on Thursday night because we both had the Bengals.

That's right. Don't sell yourself short. I have the Broncos getting five and a half in Baltimore, and I think they can win this game. This is a good Moneyline underdog pick, in my opinion. Hey, you boxed me out again. I said six, and it's five. I really didn't think you would do this well. Son of a bitch.

If this is like plus 180, plus 200 range, I think the Broncos are a good underdog. I think they're a good value. Yeah, I like those. I did it with the Chiefs this week. I like that in the underdog just to win outright in those games that are somewhere between 4.5 and 6.

Well, so I guess what to look at is who is the weird 3-0 team? Will it be Miami? Will it be Denver? It's going to be Miami. Miami's playing Oakland. It could be 3-0, yeah. They're going to be 3-0. By the way, Frank Gore now third on the all-time list in rushing.

What? When you sit down with your grandchild. What are you talking about? That's not true. Didn't he pass Curtis Martin? He's third? Hold on. Did I get that wrong?

No, I'm just stunned to hear that information. He's third? He says he moves into fourth on all-time. Wait, who'm stunned to hear that information. He's third? He says he moves into fourth on all-time racing. Wait, who's fourth? Nine hours ago. Frank Gore. Oh, moves on to fourth. Okay, yeah.

Fourth. All right, so what? Fourth. He passed Curtis Martin. That's crazy. He's 1,000. He's like 1,200 yards behind Barry Sanders. So of all the years Frank Gore played,

how many of those years were you genuinely excited to have him starting on your fantasy team? Like two? Two and a half? Yeah, probably two. But then you play against him and it was rotten. Three touchdown game against you, yeah.

That said, when I'm bouncing my grandchild on my knee, God willing, you know, six months or so. Whatever, down the road. I don't know how much I could talk about Frank Gore and how great he was. Could you? Could you get more than two sentences out?

I don't even have a Frank Gore story. Everybody has a Frank Gore story. No, I don't have one. No, I know. Texans Giants. We have six barely watchables today. Texans-Giants is the next one. Really, I don't know why this isn't in the poop-fecta

other than it was just out of respect for Deshaun Watson and Saquon Barkley. I mean, you could argue Saquon Barkley should never be in the poop-fecta rankings, but I have Texans by three, and this is an awful game, and I'm probably not going to watch it. What do you have? Why do you have three? The Giants were so bad today. I mean, you're right.

It's three and a half, but I had five and a half. Why is it so low? Texans stink. Both 0-2. So we like to talk about the first coach fired. One of our favorite conversations in September. I am not confident Bill O'Brien makes it if they lose this game and they go 0-3 because that team looks lifeless.

I would say of all the shit teams, they're the only one that doesn't really have an excuse right now because they do have talent on both sides of the ball. They get off to really slow starts and really going to Tennessee. Yeah. Early in the year against Blaine Gabbert. Blaine Gabbert. He didn't even, well, he was 13 for 20 for a buck 71.

So I don't know where all this, they just had weird things happen. I think they did. They ran a fake punt, right? Yeah. To start the game. That might have been the first drive. And that took all the air out of them. Vrabel, I thought Tennessee had a chance to win this division.

I think I picked them to make the playoffs because I thought Vrabel was going to be a good coach. And I thought he won this game today. Some of the stuff they did, like, there's an aggressiveness that that team has. And they had Blaine Cabot as their quarterback. And they're going for it on fourth and ones up 14. I would say, yeah, you're right.

I think he's the only coach today that stole a game. I'm looking through these. He stole a game. I don't think they should have ever beaten the Texans. Right. Giants got him. I think maybe Gruden donated a game. We could say that.

Maybe he gets a minus if you do plus minuses for coaches. Seahawks-Cowboys in Seattle. We don't know how bad, mediocre, or maybe even half decent the Seahawks team is because they play the Bears tomorrow night. You and I both like the Bears, right? You like the Bears tomorrow night, right? I think so. I think Nagy's think, you know,

I think Nagy's going to use Trubitsky more wisely. Yeah. I have the Seahawks, I'm sorry, this is in Seattle. Yep. I have the Seahawks by three and a half.

All right, good. I finally get one. It's exactly three. Okay. That's what I had. So your team, the clap, this could be ugly this could be an ugly game

the Clapper diagrammed his one long ball for Tavon Austin that Prescott actually completed he got a touchdown out of it other than that it was pretty gruesome not aggressive at all the play calling on offense was not aggressive at all

and I guess it's Linehan you can't rest on your laurels. Up 10-0, I still thought it was over, right? Up 20-10, I thought they were going to come back. Right? When the Giants got the onside kick, I'm like, oh, they're just going to get another one here. It's going to be a tie game.

No confidence in this team. Sometimes you watch these games and you think, oh, they definitely scripted out that series. You know, like, who was the one today i was why oh the jags the jags against the pats they clearly were like here are our first 10 plays we're doing this this this this and then if they if eric rose single on cole we're gonna do this and they just had a plan they had these plays that worked and you watch them and go right, they put some thought into this. Right. I watched Alice and I do not have that feeling.

I'm not like, oh, yeah, the Tavon Austin play. They were so delighted at work because it was like the one time Garrett brought a play into work. It was like, hey, guys, I have this idea. We'll have Tavon Austin run a straight line and Dak will try to throw there. Oh, yeah, cool. Let's try that. That'll be great. Other than that, they had no plays. What do they do? Well, I have to say, they don't have a power running game anymore

because of this offensive line. I think it's very average right now. I really do. And that's why you have to be more creative. You have to flash Elliott out a few times. You have to, you know, Prescott's got to call his own number. And they're doing it at the wrong time.

Yeah, I was excited about Tavon Austin, but that went away quickly. When he gets waived in three weeks, you'll always have that moment with him. The watchables, three games. These are good ones. Falcons Saints. Falcons in Atlanta hosting the NFC South is clearly the A-list division this season

yep by the way Tampa Bay scares me more than anybody in that division yeah god what were they like plus 2000 yeah 1800 or something man great game, Falcon Saints

the Falcons are just a chore to watch, it's just something about all the talent they have, it's always clumsy it's always choppy, it just never feels like the team has known each other

for more than like 3 or 4 weeks and it's frustrating to watch them, even like never feels like the team has known each other for more than like three or four weeks. And, uh, and it's frustrating to watch them even like that Falcons Panthers game. We, I stayed away. Did you stay away from that game?

Yeah, I stayed. I didn't like it. I was, I was trying to get your feel on it because I thought the line was very high considering. Yeah. Suspicious. Falcons aren't 6.66 and a half points better,

but it was, do we just think it was the emotions surrounding the storm and Carolina going on the road? Was that the difference? And the offensive line getting banged up. I know they had a tackle, but you had Freeman's out, which I'm starting to think Freeman, Tevin Coleman taking the reins by himself is a better deal anyway.

It was like 16 for 107. But they had two defensive players out too, Atlanta. Sure enough, they're up by two touchdowns. When Coleman's out there, it's a little more scary with the screens and stuff. we both like Carolina, but didn't understand why

that line was so high and we got scared off. As it turned out, the line was 1.2 low for the spread. And Atlanta covered it. Well, Cam, you talk about this guy. I mean, he heaves the ball up. He looks like he's heaving an anvil into a river. There's no confidence at all.

I don't know about these receivers either. Like, Funchess is slow. DJ Moore, maybe not so great. No, he scored. Receivers are bad. Yeah. McCaffrey's good. He's good. I have the Falcons by three and a half at home against the Saints.

You got me here. I said four, and it's three. This week's over. This week is over. It's like ten to five or something. I would have reminded everyone that Saints on the road in a dome is not 100% of a road game for them. They like playing in a dome. Anything over three, and I would like the Saints in this one.

And they're due to play a good game. I actually think they have too much talent to just kind of shit their way through the season. This isn't like some of these other teams. I look think they have too much talent to just kind of shit their way through the season. This isn't like some of these other teams. I look at the Steelers, I'm like, that team genuinely might not be that good. But the Saints, on both sides, they just have

a lot of firepower. It doesn't make a lot of sense. Yeah, I think the Falcons beat them. Last two years, this game has been very close in Atlanta. It's always good. Next one, Panthers-Bengals. Two teams, especially the Bengals, that we like.

I could not get this one higher than three. I have the Panthers by three at home against the Bengals. I said three as well. It's three and a half. They gave them the nod. I guess it's just a bigger game. I continue to like this Bengals team. I think they as well. It's three and a half. They gave him the nod. I guess it's just a bigger game. I continue to like this Bengals team. I think they're good.

I don't think they're Super Bowl good, but I think they could be a playoff team. Yeah, why not? I'm going to back Andy Dalton until I'm F-cursing his name in six days from now. Chiefs 49ers, our last one. That one's in KC.

This arguably could have been the Sunday marquee. You have handsome Jimmy. You have the greatest quarterback of all time, Patrick Mahomes. You have a Chiefs crowd

that has not had a home game yet, right? Weren't the Chiefs on the road those first two weeks? They were. What did they do week one? Yeah, they were at the LA Chargers. Oh, yeah, they were at the Chargers, yeah. But that was a home game. I was looking back at some of the Chiefs quarterbacks the last few years.

If you're a Chiefs fan, this is like, you know, you've just spent the last 20 years with Matt Castle and Elvis Gerbeck and Thigpen and all these, you know, they've never really had anybody, never had an A-lister. And all of a sudden, they have the most exciting QB in the league. And also, just all the skill positions. Like, you have to go back. You know, like Christian Okoye days.

But now Hill and Kareem Hunt. Like, these guys are all explosive. Yeah, we were watching the game today, and I said to Kyle, I was like, boy, Tyreek Hill has not much for him. We're kind of due for it. Tyreek. And it was like on cue, they did some crazy flip reverse. Yeah.

And it almost seemed like he was going to broke it. He got tripped up. But that team is effing exciting. Yeah. So I have Chiefs by six against San Francisco. Of course you do. Because the answer is six. I had seven.

But do you get the idea that Vegas is going to swallow everybody up this week with this bet? What do you mean? You think people are going to take the Niners? It's all over my home. Maybe this ends up an overtime game. I think this gets to eight. I just think they're better, yeah.

I don't think the Niners are very good and I think they can put up some points on them one good thing you saw out of the Niners is they have a running back who could break one for more than like 11 yards so that was nice that helps Jimmy G I think it does Chiefs Jags is looking like a possible

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Remember that Curb Your Enthusiasm? Foisted, yeah. He foisted. He foisted his employees. We have a couple of people in our life who are known foisters. Belichick foisted Patricia on the Lions. You think he did it just to set up week three? He's like, we're going to come off a tough week two game.

So we're going to need an easy win. Yeah. This is it. He's like, that's going to do Ben, but don't break against us. And Tom, you're just going to throw eight yard passes for four quarters and have

finished with 480 yards. I Sunday night game. There's going to be a lot of talk about, um, I don't know. What, what's, what do you think Michaels and Collins were talking about in this game? Well, they should talk about how Matt Patricia, in his last three games,

if you count the Patriots Super Bowl, has given up this defensive genius. Well, I don't know, almost 120 points, 110. Does anybody think he's a defensive genius? Patriots fans didn't think he was a defensive genius. I can't speak for the rest of the country. Whoever the Lions owners are did, I think. Yeah. Lombardi's thing about how he has the laminated playbook,

but a pencil in his ear. It's ruined, Patricia. That's it. How do you come back from that? What's the pencil for? I have the Patriots by five in Detroit. I stupidly said four. Vegas knows where it's at.

They have it at seven. So why don't we just end every teaser with the Patriots this week? I'm trying to think, how could this game go wrong? I will say the Lions do have good receivers yeah their fourth best receiver would probably be the second best receiver on the pass

so maybe that's how it goes wrong garbage time who knows I don't know with Stafford he's good you had to give him all that money, I guess, but you're committing a lot of money to a player who's just not going to win you a Super Bowl, right? Yeah, I was thinking about that.

Did that free up the Dominican Sioux money and say, all right, we got to give this to somebody? What's our quarterback making? Well, if you're a Lions fan, Stafford's in your life for like, what, 16, 17 years? Right? With that contract? It really is like marrying the wrong girl.

Yeah. Where it seems like a good idea and you kind of rush to the altar. And then you really start doing the math and you're like, man, this is going to be my whole life with this girl. What am I doing? Like some Lions fan is 22 and they get Stafford

and 39 when he retires and you've had no chance to win a Super Bowl the whole time. Right, I know. It's just tough. I don't know. By the way, for our female listeners, and we have a lot, we could also say it's like marrying the wrong guy, right?

I mean, that applies. Yeah, see, I didn, that applies. Yeah. See, I didn't want to offend our female listeners and make it seem like they were more likely to make a mistake. Oh, I see. They're less likely because women are smarter and guys are dumb. Right. Okay. Yeah. Monday night, the Bucs.

This is insane. ESPN ends up with like the game of the year. I love this game. Bucs up with the game of the year. I love this game. Bucs Steelers in Tampa. Fitz Magic against Ben, ooh, my arm, I think it's broken, Roethlisberger. Shout out to Judge Smales. I have Bucs minus one over the Steelers.

His arm's so busted that he could go over the line and pass it, and they won't even review it. Over the line of scrimmage. What did you say, plus one? I said Bucs by one. Bucs by one. Yeah. Yeah.

Steelers by three, and I hit that exactly. Not that it matters, because you destroyed me. Nine, 12, 13. 13 to six, including ties. That line is stupid. There is no evidence whatsoever that the Steelers are a better team than the Bucs. Well, in some cases, Vegas added to maybe two and a half points to a team that absolutely needs to

win a good team that absolutely needs to win. Steelers being one of them. And who else? I think like Philly, I think, is another one. Houston, they went the other way, I thought. Wait, so you think they think the Steelers, this is a must win because the Steelers are 0-1-1? Well, they go 0-2-1, and then it's not good.

Like, they have Atlanta. They have a few weird games coming up. 0-2-1, 0-2-1 is like a hockey record. It's like, here come the Golden Knights. They are 0-2-1, so I'll start1's like a hockey record. Yeah. It's like, here come the Golden Knights. They are 0-2-1, so I'll start for them. Hockey or soccer, yeah. Let's do this deal with schedule. We haven't done this with anyone yet.

Oh, I'm so ready. Let's do it. All right. Do you want to be Mike or Doug? I will be, I'll be Doug. Okay. Do you want to lead or do you want to be me throw the things? You have it in front of you?

You can lead if you want. Yeah, I have it in front of me. All right. All right, dog. The Steelers are 0-1-1. Yep. Let's do week three at Tampa Monday night. Mike, this is a gigantic game.

They could fall flat on their faces, Mike. I see this as a loss. Sunday night, NBC, Baltimore. I mean, they're getting killed. The schedule maker's killing them. This is a division game. This early on, another loss. 0-3-1.

Doc, week five, home. Matt Ryan and the Dirty Birds, Atlanta. Mike, 0-4-1. Keep it coming. Well, you're not going to like this, Doc. You are not going to like this. This is a humongous game. This is a humongous, humongous game.

Oh, wait, you keep your eye on this game. Sunday, week six, at Cincinnati against the Bengals. Oh, wait, you keep your eye on this game. Sunday, week six, at Cincinnati, against the Bengals. Oh, Mike. Mike, they have this game in an infirmary, for crying out loud. In an infirmary, because as the 10 players are going to end up on journeys, and it's another loss, 0-5-1. Well, here's one. Get your Mad Dog fake laugh ready for this one.

Here's one that's not going to be a problem for them, dog. Week seven, it's a bye. Mike, you got it. He got it right. Week eight, home for Cleveland. Could be Baker Mayfield. Could be Baker Mayfield there, dog. Mike, I don't know if it's Baker Mayfield or not.

If this game is going on in my backyard, I draw the blinds. I'm not watching. Next four, dog. How about this stretch? Next four. Next four. At Baltimore, home Carolina, at Jacksonville, Sunday night, at Denver. Mike, I can honestly say those are all losses.

0-12-1 right there. See how easy that is? Home charges at Oakland. Home pats at New Orleans. Home for Cincy. That's how they finished it up. 0-16-1, dog? 0-16-1.

They get an extra game for being so bad. And that's the tie. They're lucky to tie, Mike. Wow. That is not an easy schedule. No, yeah. That's tough. The North used to be simple.

Well, stranger things have happened. Especially, it doesn't seem like Bell comes back before week 11. I don't know why he won't say that, but it doesn't seem like bell comes back before week 11 i don't know why he won't say that but it doesn't seem like he's coming back before then so very strange thing because this connor is running hard and he's doing well and by the way when bell gets back it's not going to be one of those things where he has like 25 carries that they're going to use connor in the offense yeah so uh he's got to hate his agent a little bit right now the one thing with the steelers this year is they they always usually have that third awesome kind of young receiver that you barely ever heard of as a fourth rounder.

Yeah. They don't really have that guy this year. No, Washington. This guy, I think it's James Washington. Look for him. Was he involved? He's getting a little bit of action now. Well, first of all, Jesse James had like 144 yards.

Yeah. That was weird. He was one of the, Jesse James had like 144 yards receiving today. That was weird. He was one of the eight tight ends to light the NFL on fire. So you're recommending James Washington? Yeah, well, Damoshek picked him up. Anyway, he stole him for a buck.

Yeah. Alright, so I won this week. Yeah, you blew me away. Not good. Parent corner. Let's hear it. I have an annoying one. It's actually a double parent corner because it involves one of my parents,

my mother, who was playing cards with my 12-year-old boy. And she's bragging about her girlfriend. She says, girl, on East Coast, the older women refer to their friends as girlfriends if they're women. So she says, you know, my girlfriend's daughter, Darcy, has a house next to Tom Brady. And I was like, oh, that's nice. And I said, what does her husband do? She's like, he's in junk bonds.

He's in junk. I was like, okay, we'll see how long that lasts. And then I was like, well, you know, maybe Archie can become a football player and be a Tom Brady and live in a giant house. And she's like, oh, maybe Archie can become a football player and be a Tom Brady and live in a giant house. Oh, please, he's not playing football. Now, just keep in mind, I have now fought with my wife and I broke her down to a point where my son is going to play tackle football next year because Tony Romo told us he doesn't need to.

Romo went behind my back, or not really, but to our face said, nah, you don't need to play. He doesn't need to play that early. So he could play 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th. So that was the compromise. And I was like, listen, just play. It's one of the greatest things I've ever done. It's a great experience. Four years, you won't even get

on the field in the first year. You're not going to scramble your brain. It'll be fine. My mother goes into this whole crazy thing. She's now turned my wife back around to now he's not playing football. I don't know how our listeners feel about their kids playing football anyway, but I had it. I had it locked down. And now I have to start all over again with this because her friend Darcy, she had a brag about having a house next to Tom Brady and opened a whole can of worms. And I don't know what to do now. So what's the line?

What's the line for Archie over under when he plays football? I'll make the line ninth grade. Ninth grade and a half? Eighth grade and a half. Eighth grade and a half? Yeah. No, I think ninth grade. I'm going to get it.

I just have to work on a plan now. If anyone has any ideas of how to, I think my mother just has to shut her mouth. But other than that, I have to figure this out. Would you let Ben play or no? I mean, Ben is 10. He has more muscle than I do. He does flips off his bunk bed and wrestles dummies

and is just a generally dangerous reckless kid and the thing is like i i think i would let him play in high school only because he's gonna find something else he's gonna find something where he puts himself in danger kyle you agree with me what it has been just avoiding some sort of dangerous something? It's a hundred to one. Yeah. He's going to do something. I put money on that for sure. He's kind of made for football.

Keeps him off the street, right? I have a football success story for you, Sal. Go ahead. My buddy, my buddy Sully, the MVP of my wedding. He has two sons, Aiden and Keegan. They go to Scituate High. Aiden is the quarterback and has been the quarterback for three years. This is third year.

Keegan, ninth grader, makes the team. He's playing wide receiver and kick returner. He's only, I think, the second freshman that's made the team. QB wide receiver starting on the same team. How about that? Wow, that's great.

In my Facebook and Instagram feeds just happy pictures of two handsome guys with their arms around each other and their mom after football games girls knocking on the door it's just everything you've read about I love it so there's a football success story

my friend Darren the parlay kid his son is the star quarterback of our my high school football team as the parlay kid, his son is the star quarterback of my high school football team, as the parlay kid was 30 years ago. They beat the defending champs last week. And here's something else. The parlay kid is a guardian for another kid who is the wide receiver for the team. So not exactly the same story, but interesting.

Almost. Yeah. And that's a happy thing. There you go. I need to see My mother needs to hear more about this. The junk bonds. I am anti-youth football. I'm anti-youth football, but I do think once you get to like 15,

16, what can you do? I mean, my daughter's played soccer her whole life. We've had a couple kids got concussions playing soccer. The headers and stuff. Like what sport is safe? Baseball, you get hit by a pitch. Basketball, I could get elbowed, I can get a concussion.

Like any sport, there's things. The thing is like with football, some of the collisions are pretty scary. And I think as, you know, I'm definitely, I'm rethinking high school football at least. I will not change my mind on youth football I just don't think it should exist but what do I know you'll love high school football

you'll love watching it it was great to play it I'm so glad I did it this is all going to be very sad when something bad happens god forbid my parent corner I had two last week,

and I only got to use one. The other one was we were hanging out outside, Kyle and I, with Ben, and Kyle was doing, like, because he's not smoking lately, so he's doing, like, a little vape. And Ben was curiously looking at the vape and asked Kyle how old does he have to be for when he can start vaping. And I had a heart attack, and then Kyle revived me. And then...

Wait a minute, what's the answer? What was the answer, Kyle? It was never. The answer was never. My study was in my asshole because he just saw me doing it, so I felt partly responsible. Good answer. Then led to a series of questions about when he could drink.

Have sex? We have sex. And he just started interrogating us on all these different things. And we bumped, we bumped the ages as high as we possibly could. Mid thirties. What did we say? 25,

30. He just gets this light in his eye. Every time anything comes up of like partying, girls, any sort of immoral behavior. And you just, just light in his eye. Gears are turning, yeah.

I'm just frightened. I'm just scared. Oh no. Yeah, it's not good. And this was before Kyle had the tattoo, right? That's going to be another question. He asked you questions about the tattoo too. Yeah, it's not great.

So it's not great. Yeah. You're going to have to let him have sex. I don't think I have a choice. He probably has. It's probably already happened. Oh my God. So what are we going to do?

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And, oh, Against All Odds, Wednesday. We'll go over MVP odds, college, football, best bets, all that stuff. Oh, and Emmys tonight, right? By the time you're listening? Monday night. Oh, yeah, Monday night. Oh, Jimmy Kimmel Live, best show. It's possible. What are the odds? 30 to 1.

No, that's not really the odds, is it? That's true. It's 30 to 1. You odds? 30 to 1. No, that's not really the odds, is it? That's true. It's 30 to 1. You guys are 30 to 1 underdogs? Yeah. Why? You thought it would be more? No, I thought the odds would be better.

I thought Jimmy had a good year. He was pretty relevant. I had two. Oliver's number one. Samantha B, I think it's two. Colbert's right behind her, I think. They should not be in your category. Oh, which one?

John Oliver? And Samantha Bee. It's a half hour once a week. How does that compare to doing 46 weeks of shows and doing like 210? It's ridiculous. They don't get it right. It's weird the way they lump them together.

Also, there's no host there's no there's no award for best talk show host but there's like an award for best reality show host

aside from reality as well well that's completely illogical strange well good luck 30 to 1 though put a few dollars

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