The Bill Simmons Podcast - Hail Murray, Harden to Brooklyn (?), Heart Attack QBs, and the Zombie Pats With Cousin Sal

Episode Date: November 16, 2020

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to briefly discuss rumors of James Harden to the Brooklyn Nets before talking about the Patriots' win over the Ravens during a downpour in Foxborough. They also discuss the Browns win vs. the Texans and the return of Nick Chubb; the Cardinals' Hail Mary win over the Bills and Kyler Murray’s case for MVP; as well as Dolphins-Chargers, Rams-Seahawks, and more (3:00). They end with Guess the Lines for NFL Week 11 (50:00) and Parent Corner (1:29:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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First, Sunday night. What a sports day. Holy shit. Starts out with the Masters. There's all kinds of football. They actually stagger the schedule correctly, so there were a lot of late games. We have the Patriots somehow still alive, thanks to a

tsunami and a whole bunch of weird shit. And then, on top of everything else, this Harden to Brooklyn thing had gained all kinds of momentum today, and ESPN was reporting on it. I did a whole trade thing at the top of my pod on Thursday. That was the trade I kind of threw out on Thursday.

Like in Brooklyn, it actually makes the most sense. Bob, Bob, Bob. Three days later, it actually makes sense. Sal, the odds. How dare basketball try to steal football from you? Just quickly. No, just give me two minutes. Give me two minutes. Brooklyn is now our number four favorite

to win the title. They're down to plus 750 on FanDuel. Wow. This trade hasn't even happened yet. Didn't we talk about this with you and Hal? It was a few weeks ago.

And yeah, we did the 2021 odds. What were they? 13, 14 to one? Yeah. Nobody wanted to touch it. It was like 14 to one. Yeah.

So now they're plus 750. Lakers are plus 320. Clips plus 600. Bucks 7 to 1 it. It was like 14 to one. Yeah. So now they're plus seven 50 Lakers are plus three 20 clips plus 600 bucks. Seven one. And the nets and warriors are both Lakers making trades to Schroeder, right? Yeah. They made a good one today. They,

they kind of stole Schroeder. I gave Polinka a lot of shit, but that was actually, he's done a good job though last year. So this Brooklyn thing really quickly before we get to football, Kevin Durant, James Harden, Kyrie Irving on the same team. This is basically what my son would do when he's playing NBA 2K.

He'd be like, no, this would be cool. I'll just put all these guys on the same team and they're video game characters. They'll be happy. In this case, it's three guys who are used to having the ball all the time. Harden and Durant are really good friends from way, way back. Kyrie is somebody that likes to have the ball. I don't know how I feel about it. It could be a beautiful disaster or it could be absolutely devastating. What do you think? You have no dog in the race. Well, it's not good for your Celtics, right? I mean, Kyrie, take him out of there for a minute

because he'll get sick of playing or he'll get sick of not having the ball, and he'll take care of himself in that regard. So if it's just Durant and Harden and Dinwiddie, I don't know. I don't know who they get rid of. Dinwiddie will be in the trade. It'll be like LaVert, Dinwiddie, Jared Allen probably in some picks or Torian Prince. I don't know who it'll be, but yeah.

Top two team to beat in the East at that point, right? I know I'm not saying anything interesting there, but who the hell's ahead of them? So your team, the Sixers, if, I mean, I guess we have to see if Giannis moves at all, right? Yeah, I guess. So the upside of it would be, how do you stop this when they're spread out? The downside would be it's a video game team. It looks so much better on paper. How are these guys ever going to be happy? I'm wondering, the more I thought about it, once they really started to get momentum the last 24 hours, if this is like a backup plan type thing for Durant with Kyrie, because he's been in bed with Kyrie now for over a year. And maybe you bring Harden in,

it's like, no, no, it's going to be the three of us. It'll be all together. But deep down, it's kind of a little bit of an upgrade and an awesome backup plan in case the Kyrie thing goes south. Katie will probably even get mad that I surmise this. I'll forgive you. I'm trying to think in history, two things. One, when a team gave up a bunch of quarters for a dollar and it wasn't a disaster for the team that gave up the dollar. Just trading a top seven guy in the league for a bunch of pieces, there's no record of it ever working out. I can't think of one example. Every time, I was writing about this 20 years ago, writing the examples. And since then,

we've had six more. So that'd be one thing. The flip side of it would be, we've also seen these situations where you throw the guys together and you know it's not a great fit. But you're like, well, they're so great. And you just kind of talk yourself into it. Yeah. It's these two worlds colliding.

And that's why my head's going to explode. We'll see if it happens. I still feel like Philly can come in with Ben Simmons at any point here in trumpet. Right? Can come into where? Into this hardened thing. If it's really like a sweepstakes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, sometimes the video game teams work. They do. I mean, it wasn't through trades really, but Golden State was a video game team, right? And they were competitive for a while. I know it wasn't the same way through trades and how you broke it down like four pieces the the four-on-one trades the bad trades you get

offered in fantasy all the time like i want your stud and i'll give you four pieces of shit right but it adds up and then you're gonna have to cut three guys too so but we'll worry about that later but yeah it's funny to watch with my son playing fantasy how in seventh and eighth grade that's just the only trades anyone offers they're like here's three guys for dk metcalf right right right and my son's like dad should i do this he's offering me three guys just like no no you absolutely shouldn't do that that's a mistake don't take any trades ever yeah um sal this is going to be a dizzying next five days with hoops it is right there's going to be trades dizzying next five days with hoops. It is, right? There's going to be trades, the draft. Nobody knows where anyone's going.

I can't get consensus on anything. And then after that, you have free agency coming and it's just going to be two weeks of what the NBA has become, which is NBA 2K. Right. It's just guys switching teams. Guys aren't happy for a year. They move.

Guys don't like this. It's like, just get me out of here. It's just bizarre. They've turned into high school kids. Oh, I thought you liked Jimmy. No, no, now I like Tommy. Yeah, yeah. And that's just what the NBA is like now. No, I really like James Harden. Oh, cool. All right.

We pointed to college with that, too. It's like, oh, these one-and-done players, all these Kentucky guys. How do you root for Kentucky? How does a fan base, how does it follow this? And now It's like, Oh, these one and done players, all these Kentucky guys, how do you root for Kentucky? How does a fan base, how does it follow this? And now it's like, it's, it's trickled into the pros.

Like these guys don't stick around. Maybe it's because they're in the mindset of moving on after one year, all these players. So I don't know what it is. Well, if they get hardened, I, it just adds to how many of these compelling NBA storylines we're going to

have with golden state, just being back NBA storylines we're going to have with Golden State just being back with whatever the hell is going to go on with the Clippers with the Lakers who actually look like they might actually be better than they were this year with the Celtics and Milwaukee hanging around and Miami trying to make a run and then Denver trying to make a

leap and Denver's trying to trade for Drew Holiday right now everyone's just loading up and the season's starting really soon. And on top of it, we're going to have football heading into the playoffs. Like, this is, what a run this is. Yeah, on top, way on top of it. Way on top of it.

Way on top of it. Yeah. All right. I know you don't want to talk about your big Patriots win. Your big Patriots win. I'm ready. So, for the people listening, Tuesday, I'll have a bunch of NBA stuff.

Wednesday we're doing a draft pre-show on Twitter and then a post-show that will end up being also the Ringer NBA podcast and then Thursday I'll have more. So I have the NBA cover. We're talking football today. My team just saved its season. You asked me,

you said we should hit up FanDuel and find out where the most money was on a team. Right. So I sent a text and the person I sent it to said, I haven't looked at, but I guarantee it was Baltimore. Everybody had the Baltimore money, Baltimore minus six and a half. Yeah. Okay. Cause that makes sense because that's a Sunday game and that's a game. If you lost all day, you double up on that. Or if you won, you have to spend, you have to lose it somehow. That makes sense. Before that I was seeing big numbers on Cleveland. We'll get to that, which is hilarious. But this Baltimore game was, um, do we even know, I don't know, there was so much rain. Are you sure your team won? I didn't see the last minute and it seemed

like the heavens opened even more for Coach Belichick to make sure that Lamar wasn't getting down the field in the last minute five. But that was a spectacular, spectacularly wild game. There were a lot of red flags that I just willfully ignored because I had the Ravens in a couple of teases and parlays. One is the Hail Mary to Hopkins took the ceiling off today. Anytime shit like that happens, you just know where it's going to go. Everybody had the Ravens as the comeback bet, like you said. Everybody had the Ravens in a teaser parlay. The Pats looked awful last week, but yet their season's on the line. And I don't think Belichick's been an underdog like that at home probably since

he was in Cleveland. And it was all the makings of, oh, the Belichick magic been an underdog like that at home probably since he was in Cleveland. And it was all the makings of, oh, the Belichick magic. I think what none of us expected was the monsoon. Now, could we have Googled that? Maybe. Did you know it was going to have weather like that? It seemed like Collinsworth and Michaels didn't even know. They're like, oh, this is supposed to move north to New Hampshire or something. I don't think they expected.

I thought they were going to miss it. And it definitely favored the Patriots. I'm not saying the Rebels were, you know, but there were two bad snaps, right? Two really bad snaps. And I think that was big. Now, the fact that the Patriots ran down their throats was something we didn't expect either.

This Damian Harris, he better look for another job because you don't show up Coach Belichick like that, right? No running back gets two good games in a row on that team for the last 20 years. So I don't know what he's going to do for a living, but you think they're going to bench him? I don't know. You know what it's like. You, you, anybody who starts them in fantasy next year, it's going to be cursing.

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great player for him this week was Damian Harris. Now, a couple of things for this. One, we watch football all day. He's one of the three or four running backs that really stands out as like a badass. And he was doing this the last couple of weeks. I didn't think he was playing today because he got crushed last week. Right. And it looked like he was going to be out. Didn't matter.

Here's the other thing. The Pats drafted him. We finally have a successful Belichick draft pick for the last five years. If you watch, like Josh Ushe, the linebacker, made a play and Winovich kind of made a play and the right tackle is a six-round pick. They boxed, so we're back, baby. Apologize. You need to apologize

to Belichick. Maybe these picks have been great. And Jacoby Myers was a draft pick, right? He was undrafted, yeah. Oh, he was undrafted. Well, they still had to go get him yeah yeah that was good yeah you're right i would rather i'd like him to play for dallas right now can he move to dallas the next three days and we need a we need a quarterback you'd rather have them than garrett gilbert garrett gilbert maybe he's neck and neck with andy dalton i think but they they had their

trickery and then they had the ground and pound right down your throat. And then they had a slow Lamar start. Now, he picked it up at the end. I feel like he should run every single time he has the ball, but I don't know. Even in a two-minute drill, it feels like he should run. Yeah, the thing with Harris, so they draft him. He's like, you know, he's classic Alabama, just take the pedigree, right? And then he's on IR all last year, and it seemed like they threw away the pick. And then as soon as he came,

started playing this year, he was so clearly 17 times better than Sonny Michel. And on my Pats text thread, all of us are like, wait a second. What's going on with this guy? And he was just clearly really good. And then I thought was borderline dominant in the game today.

But the thing with the Ravens and the Pats, they kind of have the same problem, right? If they're up seven, they look great. Because then they can just run the ball, do play action, control the clock. It's when they fall behind that you start to get worried, right? Every time the Pats threw today was out of a position of strength when the Ravens were expecting the run. Right.

You had second and two. I mean, that was mostly Damonian Harris at 22 for one 21, but that first run on first down was usually like seven yards. So ask any quarterback, let alone Cam Newton to do something on second and three, you're going to do great. What was he? 13 for 17.

I, it just seemed like everything offensively that wasn't Damian Harris could have been stopped by a team, all the lob passes and the screens and everything. It's like, Oh my God, how are the Ravens not stepping screens and everything. It's like, Oh my God, how are the Ravens not stepping up? How's Peter's not picking one of these,

but they, they look good. They got it done. They got it done. And it helped that it rained, but Ravens are in a little bit of trouble. It doesn't seem like the same team that beat the Colts. And then that Colts team dominated really is different from week to week in

this league. I was shocked. First of all, and I know they've had some injuries in the defense, It really is different from week to week in this league. I was shocked, first of all, and I know they've had some injuries in the defense, but I thought their front seven really got pushed around, which was not what I saw even last week from them. And then on offense,

I thought they were just going to bulldoze the Pats, and the Pats were just doing a whole bunch of, they basically threw the kitchen sink after that first drive. And I don't know, I thought the Ravens had a lot of trouble. And I got to say, going against Lamar, especially when you have a lead, he really stares down his receivers. And McCourty had that play that he almost had to pick,

but the other guy could have picked it too. He almost had two Patriots picking the same play and a really big drive for them. Now, a couple of dumb things with the snaps. That happens. It was like Thursday night when the Titans had that dumb punt and it completely changed the game. It seems like guys, like, long

field goals are a gimme in this league and punts and extra points are hard. All of a sudden. Like, 58 yard field goals, great. Chalk it up. That's it. That's an automatic three. But the basics are hard to come by, it seems. So the Patriots now are four and five. In other words, they're not dead.

So there's five, six, and threes ahead of them in the wildcard spot, right? Right. So you got right now, let's cross off Steelers and the Chiefs. Buffalo seven and three, Colts six and three, Raiders six and three, Dolphins 6-3, Ravens 6-3, Browns 6-3, Titans 6-3. So there's a lot of ones to jump. On the other hand, their schedule isn't that hard. They have Houston next week. Houston stinks. Atlanta the week after.

They could literally be 6-5. Then they play both LA teams. Tough game at Miami. Home Buffalo, home Jets. So it's not unrealistic. They could go 10-6 when you think they almost beat Seattle. They were on their way to beating Buffalo. I think when this team is bad, it's hard to understand what

you're looking at. They were so bad in that Jets game. I thought the season was over. I really did. I was like, wow, we can't even beat the Jets. Like Flacco either was... Flacco had to do Flacco stuff

the last five minutes. That was their only chance. I don't know what to think. Do you see them in the playoffs? Well, I don't because I didn't realize those five teams... Okay, let's say

for argument's sake, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Indy, KC win their divisions. I get it. You know, Buffalo and Indy, KC win their divisions. I get it. Buffalo and Indy, that could be interchangeable with Tennessee or Miami. So let's say those other five teams, Baltimore, Tennessee, Las Vegas, Miami, Cleveland. Do you trust anyone when you say, oh, they have easy teams on their schedule?

Do you trust anyone to definitely beat somebody? I think Cleveland has the Jets, the Giants, and the Jaguars. That, I think, is the easiest route. Cleveland's a... I don't know. That team doesn't excite me anymore. I don't know that it ever did, but they're just going to play dirty, bad-weather games and Baker's going to have an excuse not to have

big numbers. They're not as exciting because they don't have Odell anymore. He's thrown into interesting guy, you know, who's he have like Rashard Higgins and people Jones. He has Landry still, but and you know, I guess Chubb will make a difference, but out of those teams, is there a, is there a guarantee when, I mean, I could see a lot of games being like they were tonight.

Well, the, I guess the one thing for the Pats is two of those losses were in the NFC. Right. And if they could build up their AFC record, that would be the case of them making it. I disagree with you on Cleveland, though. And maybe it's because I have Chubb and Hunt on my fantasy team. Yeah. The

double-barreled, we always have one of the top seven running backs in the league thing is pretty effective. They definitely know who they are. Stefanski's done a really nice job with them. They put Baker in no position to ever fuck them over.

It's run, run, run, play action, safe pass. Occasionally, he'll scramble out. They didn't score against the Raiders. They scored 10 today. No, I get it. I don't know. Who did they play today?

Houston? That just might be a bad team. When does Deshaun Watson beg out of that situation already? How much of that game did you watch? I didn't think he was very good in that game. No, I know. But I just feel like they're just pulling all these pieces around from him. I mean, they even tried to trade Fuller.

They couldn't. True. David Johnson's out for a while. I don't know what to expect from that team. Like I said, Cleveland, they'll be fine. They're making the playoffs for sure. They have six. They could get to ten wins with that schedule I just told you. All right, let's tackle this a different way. Let's remove the

Steelers, Chiefs, and Bills. You have three teams left just that you like out of these three to make the playoffs. Colts, Raiders, Dolphins, Ravens, Browns, Titans, Pats. I'm going to put the Dolphins in at fourth because

I actually think they're legit good. Let's take two spots now for Colts. Colts, Tennessee, one of those has to make it. Now we're down to one spot. Raiders, Ravens, Browns,'re down to one spot Raiders Ravens Browns Pats

I'll still go Ravens so the Pats aren't making it Kyle I'm sorry Kyle was all excited he was thinking playoffs it's we basically have to go I think we'd have to run the slate

to make it two games is a lot to make up on five teams so yeah or two three teams right because they'll have to

they'll have to knock out three teams Jesus they're minus 22 Kyle sorry man sorry Kyle we just crossed off the Pats or two, three teams, right? Because they'll have to knock out three teams. Jesus, they're minus 22. Sorry, Kyle. We just crossed off the pats. Which team do you like the least out of the six and three teams? Colts, Ravens, Dolphins, Raiders, Titans, Browns.

I got to say, I can't believe the Titans are six and three after watching that Thursday game. Their defense stinks. I just can't believe they have six wins-3 after watching that Thursday night game. Their defense stinks. I just can't believe they have six wins. They're fraudulent for sure. Well, it's funny. Everyone makes fun of Gostkowski. He hit like 350-odders to win games for them in the last minute.

So they can go either way, and they're beating teams like the Bears. I don't like them. The thing I like is kind of the same thing you like about Cleveland. Derrick Henry, maybe he hasn't even heated up, and he's been pretty good. We know he steps it up in late November, December. They have a brutal schedule coming up, though, don't they? Yeah.

See, I think I wrote it down. They have at Ravens, at Colts, and then Cleveland. I'm not sure where that game is, but those are their next three. So they could get even at 6-6. That might be who you need to chase and kick out of it. One other crazy. So a bunch of crazy shit happened today and we'll get to Arizona and the Hail Mary in a second,

but we had the masters just on in November, which like basically broke my brain yesterday and today waking up. It's Sunday. It's football. I'm trying to figure out fantasy team bets, all that stuff. And the fucking Masters is on. And it was just disorienting.

And it wasn't a very fun Masters. Dustin Johnson kind of took the drama out of it. So my question for you was a November Masters not fun? Or did Dustin Johnson make it not fun? Oh, I think it was fun. I'm trying to think. So when is it

normally? April? Yeah. When is it normally? It's April. It's right before NBA playoffs. It's got its own weekend. Nothing's kind of going on. March Madness ended.

It's this nice little window for it. I think I preferred in April, although I want to say good job by you sports for not overlapping too much. By halftime of the early football games, we had the Masters winner now. They got lucky. There wasn't a lot of rain. Had there been rain, it could have, who knows, it could have gone into Monday.

It could have. And then we had the, and for that reason, I think we had the six late afternoon games, which we never have except for week 17 when it's, you know, it's whatever. You kind of have to justify it based on the playoffs or who's going to win to get in. They don't want to give

someone an advantage. I thought it was good. I thought they did a really nice job with it. I had Dustin Johnson. Congrats. I had a lot of money on it. Every 20 minutes I was hedging with him or what's his name? Cam Smith. So I ended up winning like nothing basically.

But it was fun. It was fun. I'm glad they got it done in time. DJ is definitely, has the same look on his face and same demeanor no matter what's happening. It's like, he has a chance to go minus 21

and you would just think he's playing in like some random event in Houston on a Friday. Right. Which is the good demeanor. The scores were up. I'm wondering if we made a mistake not wondering if the scores

are going to be up because with no fans, maybe that course is a little easier to play. It feels less intimidating. It's just kind of an empty golf course. I think the over-under on Fandle was 13.5 players under par, and they killed that. Wow. Yeah, that was over by Saturday morning.

You knew I was going over. But, yeah, it was good uh yeah when dj's going there's no one better when he's putting right like that that's that's kind of thing when he's making those nine foot putts like forget it no one else should show up the thing with him is nobody looks more like a golfer than him like what you would have in your head like the guy who would shoot minus 20 in the masters he looks like he's at a 10 cup like the guy Costner's playing with on the final round or something. And I

always say he's the most naturally talented guy. I house threw him out on my podcast two weeks ago when he was 12-1, but it dropped. What were the final odds? I got him at plus 850. You probably could have gotten him Wednesday night at like 10-1 or something. But Deshaun Bowe, who was the favorite, lost to Bernard Langer, who's like 77 years old or something. But Deshaun Bowe, who was the favorite, lost to Bernard Langer,

who's like 77 years old or something crazy. Wow. So there was a little fun stuff. Phil killed me. I had Phil not to make the cut. You knew he was going to melt at one of the points. Saturday was his bad day. I should have just kept chasing that.

But I like it. I like it. This is all we're going to watch, Simmons, in like 10 years, right? Golf? Yeah, I think so. You think we're almost there? Football's too hectic for us? I think we're I like it. This is all we're going to watch, Simmons, in like 10 years, right? Golf? Yeah, I think so. You think we're almost there? Football's too hectic for us?

I think we're close, yeah. This is the least amount of Masters I think I've watched in the last 20 years. Really? Yeah, I just... There's too much going on. Once the hardened stuff started on top of the football, my brain, I just couldn't handle it. You know what I think it is with you and the Masters?

When you try to get in that restaurant in Augusta and Babydoll, our agent, said, baby, there's no way you're getting in in a million years. You kidding me? They have that booked up for three decades. You can't get in. And then I think you showed him a picture of you sitting at that restaurant.

Yeah, I got in. I bought gear there. What's the name of it? What's that called? Oh, man. I can't believe I can't remember. Look, you don't even care enough to remember what it is. That's what's great. Breckman's or something like that. It begins with a B. Something like that. I think that sounds right. Yeah. So that was your great master's moment. It doesn't really get better than that. Yeah. I talked to my dad today and he just loves the master's. And he was like, you know, ever since we went,

I just feel like I've watched the holes and I just think of that day we walked down the hole. I think it really was like the greatest three days of his life. That's awesome. But yeah, it's like now it's all downhill. I can't see my grandkids. We're going to have another shutdown. Got to go, dad.

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on the one, which was a fantasy murder, but more importantly, a gambling murder. It was, we've seen stuff like that before. Who's the first one? Was it Todd Gurley

or was it Bryant Westbrook? Gurley for sure. Oh, maybe Westbrook did it too, but Gurley did it. Westbrook was the first one where it actually like, it cost people money when it happened. This one was

in a lot of ways worse. And by the way, fantastic play. Kudos to him. It was the right play. They kneel on the next game, they win. But he's flying down the sidelines. You're like, oh, oh, cover, cover. And then he just veered. It was like watching a car veer away from a divider.

He just veered out of bounds at the half yard line. It's like they had the Forrest Gump. Remember when Forrest Gump would run through the end zone and into the tunnel because he didn't know when to stop? I think they had a crowd. I guess they didn't have a crowd, but maybe they had something screaming stop at him. Yeah, you're right. He had such speed,

such velocity going. You didn't think there was any way he was going to stop short of the goal line. He literally veered. We had that and I'm like, wow, that's definitely the craziest any way he was going to stop short of the goal line. He literally veered. So we had that. And I'm like, wow, that's definitely the craziest gambling moment we're going to get all day. And then you have the Cardinals who completely blow it in the fourth quarter. And we get into Kingsbury in a second. Bill's score.

As you pointed out, as you were texting me, consoling me before the Hail Mary, that the Bill's receivers were just like, I don't know what, Cole Beasley's never played like that in his life. Oh, believe it. I wanted to kill Kingsbury too, but I'm like, God, these receivers are making the best catches of their lives on this drive. Stupids. So, the cards basically have two chances

to just put the game away. And the second time, they get the ball at like four and a half minutes left, terrible pass play. Terrible pass play incomplete. Terrible pass play incomplete. And then short pass play. Basically, they burn 40 seconds. And then the Bills get the ball back and you just know

that they're going to go down and score. All their receivers go nuts. And then Diggs makes a really great route and then catch. Allen actually threw a nice pass. And yeah, because of Kyle Lemire, I didn't give up. I really was like, you just can't.

He's too exciting. But that Hail Mary has to rank among the best Hail Marys, just because he almost gets sacked. He's going right to left. He flings it almost like they intended to do it that way. And then Hopkins catches it at the tippy top

and he's right inside the goal line. Rodgers had a couple of good Hail Marys, but I think that might've been the best one. Well, because normally a Hail Mary is like eight guys in the end zone and it's three on five, right? This was four guys in the end zone and it was one on three.

So that was the fun part. And the third guy wasn't even there yet. He was kind of running in late. Right. So he basically had one guy boxed out. So it was conceivable. I don't know what you're supposed to do. Tony Dungy was going over and he's like,

well, you got to bump these guys at the line of scrimmage. I'm like, I don't know. Then you lose those two guys because they're slowing down, whatever. And I mean, Murray made a a great great play avoiding the sack and rolling left and just stopping short of going out of bounds and then heaving it i was trying to think like how do you explain to like someone from another country or someone watching football for the first time the emotions involved with that because i know you had arizona and yeah you know you have them to win the division. And more importantly, you have the Dolphins to win the division. So you got to get the bills out of

there. And I had money on the Cardinals too. I had minus one and a half. Oh, you had one and a half. I had minus one and a half in ZFL, but then I had minus two and a half on one bet and the money line and the other. Yeah. So the real FanDuel lines were minus two and a half on one bet and the money line and the other yeah so the real fan duel lines were minus two and a half and minus three so when he throws the touchdown what a range of emotions first start with the digs touchdown you're you're distraught right that's crazy that was a cardinals game the whole way then murray throws the hair hell mary or the hell murray is everyone's everybody's calling it hail murray hell good one and he And he catches it and everyone's going crazy and then they kneel

the two-point conversion or what should have been an extra point to go up three because a block kick, another smart play, but costs better because if the block kick

return for the, all the way goes to the other way and that's a win or a tie. Now I'm confused. But anyway. First of all. So how do you explain that to someone who's never seen the game? All the emotions way, and that's a win or a tie. Now I'm confused. But anyway. First of all. So how do you explain that to someone who's never seen the game,

all the emotions? Like, but that was just the greatest catch of all time. Yeah, but they knelt down on the two-point conversion. Just so weird. I hated the kneel down, but it actually made sense with the math because two or three didn't matter because the only way they were going to lose is a kick return for a touchdown.

Right. Exactly. So once I realized that, I wasn't as bitter. But yeah, it was like, oh. And then I couldn't remember if it was minus two or minus two and a half. You go check. You're like, oh my God. Well, here's what I'll say.

For anyone who's out there, and I know I got a lot of people reached out. If you had Cleveland, if you had Arizona, both minus the points, you kind of didn't deserve to win both. You kind of did, right? Like Cleveland was running out the clock there. Cleveland's running out the clock. He broke it, right? Maybe Arizona you deserve to win

because they had the lead and everything and they should have held on and everything. But, you know, with 11 seconds left, you will lose in that game outright. I don't know. I'm trying to make someone feel better. I know I'm not. I just couldn't believe I was on the right

side of one of those for one of the few times of my life. Usually you and I are on the other side celebrating the Stephon Diggs touchdown. I don't know if that was the play that made the Hopkins trade officially a complete disaster and

a complete shit show. I think it probably happened before that, but if you're here, like David Johnson's on the IR, they got a second round pick for him. They stink. They don't have their first or second next year. Miami has both.

And then you watch that. If you're a Texans fan, I remember. That's what I'm saying. Deshaun Watson should watch that Hail Mary and just be like, I'm getting the fuck out of here. I can't do this. He just signed a giant deal. Where's he going to go? We got to get him out.

He's got to get out. He'll take less. I remember I went in December of 2001. I was working for Page Two my first year and I went to cover the galleryfurniture.com bowl because I wanted to cover a random dumb bowl and Stoner was doing that game.

He was a sideline reporter. Awesome. So I pitched it to them. I'm going to go down there. I'm going to cover the galleryfurniture.com bowl. I'll write a column. It's somewhere in my archives. Where was it? It was in Houston. It was like in the old Astrodome. So I was in Houston for a couple of days and it was the year

the Texans were becoming a team. Yeah. And you're just listening to talk radio driving around and they're like, you know, they don't even have a team yet

and they're talking about who they might get. There was so much excitement. And then you think like almost 20 years later, it's just like, what were the wins for us? Where were the good times?

We had some terrible playoff losses. Played in the Shakey's Bowl like four to six years, four to five years. This is an early Saturday game. Early Saturday game. They did beat the Cowboys in their inaugural game.

I remember that on a Sunday night, I believe. Yeah, not too much better than that, really. 20 years of just blah. And now, you know, this Cards team really does have a chance.

We talked about it last week with the, you know, their ceiling in the NFC. They really have a chance to make it to the Super Bowl. And if you're a Texans fan, you just gotta, it has to be like how I felt

with the Mookie Betts trade, but without the four-world series. And I know you have Kyler for MVP. I got in on that a little late, but that's, I have to look back. I keep meaning to look this up now in the NBA, you kind of have to be a top two seed to make the MVP,

except for, for the, uh, Westbrook year, a few years ago, right? You have to be a top two seed. Can they, can he win MVP and not win the NFC West? That's not out of the question that they, they win the NFC West, but that is such a log jam. And he's so fricking good. He's got nine touchdowns in as many games rushing. And, um, he's just phenomenal. You talk about an easy sports gambling bet.

They don't move that rushing yards past 54 yards. He, he had 67 and it was a bad game for him today. I have one 10, one Oh six last week. A lot of fun to watch. I mean, there's no great NFC team.

They're going to be one of the, probably the four or five best. I think they're the best NFC West team, personally. But just in general, they'll probably end up in the top three. I think he's the safest MVP bet. I actually had that in my notes. I want to talk about that quick because Wilson lost all the momentum. And I think we should probably start monitoring

this. The rabbit in September that grabs the MVP favorite thing. It seems like that guy never actually wins the MVP. The guy after three or four weeks, everybody gets all excited about. And then by week 10, it's completely different. Well, last year it was Mahomes, but then he got hurt. That was the problem there, right? Right.

Yeah. And then Lamar kind of took over when Mahomes got hurt. So, I don't know. If you said who's the MVP right now, I think it's a legitimate discussion to have. We're 10 weeks in. I think it would be Kyler Murray. You think so? Yeah.

I have to look back to see if you could get a wild card team in. I know I don't want to discount them because they could win the West, but he's over Mahomes. Mahomes' numbers are great too. They're so good. I thought they were winning the division. Yeah, they're winning by the tiebreaker.

Yeah, right. Well, they're at Seattle. I would say him or Kamara right now. Kamara was good again today. He was awesome. Oh, really? Yeah. I think that would be my top two right now.

You wouldn't have that? How much better do you... It's hard to pick against Mahomes. He's got... Where the hell is he here? Wait, did I see that right? 25 touchdowns and only one interception, right? Yeah, that's pretty good.

That's freaking good. That team's not going to win 13 games without him. They're all great. That's true. So you're saying if Chiefs go 14-2, it's hard to not give them that. Right. And even if Arizona goes 10-6 and wins the division, it's a tough one. But I'll say this.

I think the NFC, where we went over every combination of all these six and three teams, I'm 95% sure I can name the seven playoff teams. In the NFC? Yeah. Clark and I did this on Thursday and it was, unless you're saying the Vikings could crash the party, it's really hard

to come up with an eight team. Vikings, Bears, 49ers, Falcons. Those are the teams outside looking in. I don't know. I don't even think tomorrow's game matters. I think the 49ers died today, unfortunately. Yeah, that was a dumb bet. We have some ample candidates for our cross-off game.

So the Arizona thing, they're a delight. Miami, let's talk about them quickly, could not be more fun to watch. Tua, we said two weeks ago, like, man, I just didn't see it. He didn't have any wow factor at all. Last week he did. This week he did.

His play-action quick pass thing is so precise. He looks like he's been doing it for 10 years. I don't know. I thought the Chargers kind of, if they hadn't gotten that stupid fumble, I think they would have won that game by 40 points. They're up 14-0.

They're driving. The center just snaps it under to his hands. All of a sudden, the Chargers, now it's 14-7. But I think that game was going to head it for like 38-7. I thought Miami dominated them. It's a different team without Bosa, that Chargers team. But you're right. And I would love, I mean, Tua, as good as he is,

he's coming into a system where that defense keeps you in the game every single time you step on the field. Xavier Howard's all over the place. And Tua might only need to do what he did today, 15 for 25, 169, two touchdowns, and a bunch of rushing yards, and just be as precise as he is. And he seemed like the more experienced quarterback over Herbert.

He did. I know they're both rookies, but Herbert's got twice as many games, right? At least. And they look dynamite. I'm excited to have them in the playoffs. I'm excited to have them in. I'm excited to have Arizona. There's really no one I really don't want I guess

the Raiders you might have asked me this I don't even think I answered I guess the Raiders would be like yeah I can do without them or the Browns but we're gonna have a good eight on each side or a good seven on each side whatever it ends up being well the real story is the shakies game might have to be an NFC game this year oh yeah I don't remember the last time that's happened you're right It's always usually Cincinnati or Houston or Buffalo or one of those teams. Or the Jags.

Yeah, I think I've watched a lot of the Dolphins the last few weeks. I think their defense is legit good. They can create pressure all kinds of ways. They can just do the straight push. They can create pressure all kinds of ways. They can just do the straight push.

They can send the guys flying from the sides, like the linebacker defensive end types. They have these timely blitzes. They're just flying at the quarterback over and over again. And Voight was out today, right? He was out for a lot of it. Yeah. I thought they really gave the Chargers

a lot of trouble. I felt bad for Herbert because the play calling was atrocious. I just felt like you're not going to be able to run. Did you have Miami? I did. Oh, man. I was so scared of it. I was like, what the hell?

Why is this one and a half? They're making this way too easy. And it was just that easy. I actually crushed my bets today until the Ravens came. When it all came crashing down. But that's fine because the Patriots won. I think Miami's legit good. And

if I'm just looking at the AFC right now, the only team I like more than them is Kansas City. I think Pittsburgh, I think they could absolutely play with Pittsburgh. I know Pittsburgh's 9-0. I get it. And their receivers are really good,

and they can extend leads, the whole thing. But Ben's taking some fucking shots this year. Yeah. He really has. I'm skeptical that he's going to last for five months with some of the hits he's taken. We already saw Breeze finally go down today. These old guys taking two, three giant hits a game, it's not sustainable. I don't

think. Did you see him on Monday? Like before he had to do the, I think it was Monday's practice before he had to be isolated for the COVID, the tracing and everything. He had like a big pack on his shoulder, another one on his knee. He looked like it was in a Bugs Bunny cartoon. This guy, he really does. I don't know if he's going to make it to the end. I know you can't talk bad about Alex Smith, but this is the comeback play of the year, right? Big Ben Roethlisberger, if they go 15-1 with this team, I'm sorry if he

lasts to the end. Alex Smith, bet on Alex Smith, though, because he's definitely winning. Well, the funny thing is, and we went through this with House on the text chain, you can't say anything bad about Alex Smith. The worst thing you could say about him is, wow, Haskins must be really bad. Right.

Haskins must be truly terrible. And House was like, that's what I'm telling you guys. Haskins has got to be the worst ever if Alex Smith's playing over him. That's it. Politically correct as you get. If I'm a Pittsburgh fan, I'm very concerned about

all the hits Roethlisberger takes in these games. Because he's big. They had 44 yards rushing today. I know Cincinnati was going to beat. You could beat them many different ways. And they beat them basically by forcing Burrow. I think T.J. Watt had two sacks. Bud Dupree had a sack. Burrow was like 21

for 40, so he wasn't going to beat them. But Big Ben, he ended up with four touchdown passes. They need him in there for sure. We saw what it's like without him. I like the Bengals a lot as a possible underdog, parlay, all that stuff. But the no mixing thing, they're not beating the Steelers without mixing. That was a pretty big red flag.

Oh, let's do crossoffs quick, and then we'll do guest lines. Okay. I always forget who we have. We have Giants, Jets, Jaguars, Bengals, Texans, Chargers. I think we can cross off the Panthers. It's the safest one. I refuse to cross off anyone

in the NFC East for the seventh podcast in a row. NFC East right now, Eagles 3-5, Giants 3-7. Eagles are 3-5-1. Giants 3-7, Washington 2-7, and your stupid team's 2-7. You're a game

and a half out of first. Did you look at the Eagles' schedule? That's the problem there. Because the Eagles only have... If everybody's playing each other in the NFC East, that's one thing. But the Eagles have only two NFC East games left. They're at the Browns.

They play the Seahawks. They're at the Packers. They play the Saints. And they're at the Cardinals. Those are their next, what did I say, five? That could be one in four going into week 16. You know what else I looked at? What?

The Eagles. They suck. That team's awful. If you have any Philly fans in your life, just email, text them during the Eagles game and be like, hey, man, what do you think of Wentz? They just get mad. Wentz has no fans left.

He's completely lost. He's lost his base. It's like Merrick Garcetti in LA during June. He's just completely lost everyone. I don't even know what I was watching in that game. How many games do you see where both quarterbacks have no touchdowns and no interceptions? It was such a weird game.

And Daniel Jones was just like, hey, I know this team can't tackle me, so I'm just going to run. Maybe I'll fall on my face. Maybe I'll get into the end zone. He scores. That set the tempo. But then the Eagles had...

Boston Scott had a good day rushing. Sanders had a good day rushing. They had over 150 yards rushing. I don't get how they're not winning these games. Are we sure the Giants aren't good? No. I commented that they might be the fourth best team in the NFC. They're not. So they go, they lose to the Rams by eight.

They lose to your dumb team. They blow it. Tampa Bay. That was the game Dak got hurt. Two overthrows. Otherwise, they win the Tampa Bay game. Yeah, they lose the Eagles by one. They lose to the Bucs by two.

They should have won. Yeah. Beat Washington and beat the Eagles. I mean, they've been pretty solid now for six, seven weeks. They'll stick around. And that's before we talk about the freaking Saquon. The Ewing Theory potential with Saquon. You know what?

They play for that Joe Judge. They don't give up on it. You can tell they play hard. Like linebackers, everyone defensively plays hard. Joe Judge. They could be all right. But so what would that look like if they win the division,

get the four seed, then you got Tom Brady, right? As the five. Assuming they don't win the division over the Saints. You got that little giant, little bucks, bucks, giants.

So that can't be the shakiest game. Right. That won't be. That's why the NFC. Yeah. Because if Tampa Bay is on the road, they won't make it the early Saturday. Yeah. Right, that won't be. That's why the NFC, yeah, because if Tampa Bay's on the road, they won't make it the early Saturday.

Yeah, they're going to figure out how to make it AFC. It'll probably be, it'll be like, well, if the Browns get in, the Browns are guaranteed to be the Shakey's game. Just for the people listening,

our fantasy draft that I got kicked out of, every Saturday, the first playoff game, we would have the banquet at Shakey's Pizza, which we've joked about in this game, we would have the banquet at Shakey's Pizza, which we've joked about in this podcast a million times. It's the Shakey's Pizza in Santa Monica between La Brea and Highland.

I can't say it's a nice establishment. No, you don't have to say that. And you'll see some things. And especially lately, last nine months, not really an area you want to hang out in no so we would go and we would have

the Shakey's Pizza and it would always be a terrible game and the only time we ever had a good game was Tebow that was Tebow against Pittsburgh

he beat the Steelers that was like the only good Shakey's game ever usually it was like Matt Schaub Andy Dalton the rematch yeah

we could get Colts Dolphins this year. We can get something like that. Or maybe they put... I feel like they're going to want Tua over the Bills, right? If the Bills and Dolphins are in there. Yeah. It feels like Bills-Titans.

That's going to be my prediction for the Shokies game. Yeah. Don't you think? Like little Bills-Titans action? That's probably more like it. Or Bills-Colts? Because we had Bills-Texans last year, right? Wasn't that it. Yeah. Don't you think? Like little Bill's Titans action? Yeah, that's probably more Or Bill's Colts? Because we had Bill's Texans last year, right?

Wasn't that? Yeah. I think that's what it feels like. All right. We're going to take a break and do Guess the Lines.

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New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Illinois, 800. Gambler. Tennessee, 800-889-9789. Or West Virginia, 1800-GAMBLER.net. Before we do Guess the Lines, we have to talk about today's other star, Aqib Talib, who I'm not sure he should be announcing NFL games, but I really liked him. I actually think he's a podcast host. I don't know if he's an announcer because he couldn't figure out. He would just kind of keep talking

as the play was going on and he was all over the map. But I thought he was really kind of captivating. I hope they bring him back. He was certainly more interesting than a lot of these generic guys that never know who, like the Dick Stockton and whoever,

or Chris Myers and whoever whoever interesting is the word i said uh well let's just set it up so fox had all the early games right because cbs only had golf so yeah then it became like all right we have uh five games here um i think i likened it to like, hey, it's Christmas Day. I know everybody wants to be with their family, but attention, Walmart employees. We need people to man the registers. Who can we get? They got to keep Tlaib. He filled in on that. They put him on Detroit, Washington, right? Maybe thinking that nobody was going to be watching. It turned out to be one of the games of the day. It was interesting. Yeah, he was definitely interesting.

One thing I loved, other than him just continue to do his analysis as the next play was going on, he would get so mad at the pass interferences. I've never seen an announcer get more upset

every time he didn't think it was pass interference. He was like classic defensive back standing up for the other defensive backs. I got to say, it was a roller coaster ride with Aqib. And yet, I hope they give us another ticket. I would rather

have that than 75%. It was like an SNL sketch. Oh, he'll be back. He'll be back. You didn't hear Tessitore Saturday night on... He wasn't even the problem, but the Crawford fight, that was insanity. Anyway, we can go on.

Hold on, I got to play you something really quick. So you remember last week I was talking about when I was driving back from Phoenix, listening to the Cardinals announcers, and they had the guy who talks like this, and I love the guy. He was so into the game yeah i really did enjoy the the broadcast the look one so peter schrager sent me um his call of

the hopkins hail mary yeah so this is after the play-by-play guy this is just the other guy hopefully you'll be right here you can't cover duke you're not gonna be able to cover him Who is it? Is it John Murphy? No, his name's Ron Wolfley. We might have to invite him on the podcast. Let's bring him on. I think we need to have him do Guest of the Lines with us. I love Ron Wolfley.

Him and Akeem Tlaibor by Media Heroes of 2020. Is there any way that they'll be paired together? That would be terrific. Oh, my God. Listen, the longer this cards thing goes, the more Ron Wolfley we have. Ron, I really enjoyed the broadcast last week. Keep it up. I've only heard 10 seconds of him and I feel

like he's doing your Andrew the Giant luck impression. Guess the lines. All lines courtesy of FanDuel Thursday night. Crazy. This game's happening. The cards are back in action. So we're going to get a lot of Kyler Murray MVP stuff next four days. Yeah, for sure.

I feel like we talked about it last week. It was 33 to one. It was 25 to one two days ago. Now it's got to be, I would guess, down to like 10 to one. Too many people talking about it. I think it's inside of 10 to one now. Yeah. Okay.

Now this is the DK Metcalf chase down rematch, right? Right. Seahawks Cardinals in Seattle. And if you're a Seattle fan, you can't be excited about what you're watching. No, definitely not. Your defense isn't good. Russ looks like he's starting to wear down from all the use.

You have no good running backs. And this is an alarming game. I have just out of respect, pure respect for Russ Wilson. Minus three Seahawks. All right. You're going to get mad because you're going to think I cheated off the bat,

but I hit it exactly. It's three and a half. I was so mad at Seattle today. I had them all over over the place and it was probably a bad spot because rams are great defensively but coming off the loss like i think seattle had lost back to back once in 31 games or something but p count they get that gift field goal of 58 or 100 yard whatever it was right before the half ends like holy crap the guy nails it they get the ball in the third quarter they get fourth and inches fourth and inches is not fourth and one and a half right yeah fourth and inches you go for it p carol does the worst thing he calls time out

and then does the hard count and then ends up punting and then the rams get like a six minute drive and score and then it's like it's kind of over it's like's like, I just, I just couldn't take it. And I also, why aren't they designing runs for Russell Wilson? Why is he only taking off when he's in trouble? I think it's hard when you have no run game. I think they're a little handcuffed by that, but I'm with you. The coaching was, was not great on the Seattle side today, our friend Pete Carroll, but they, they was, they just look sloppy.

It looked like the Rams were better prepared the other thing is I think what's there's four or five quarterbacks right now that if the other team doesn't have a pass rush and you watch their offense

you're like oh why isn't that one of the best teams and the Rams are a little bit like that right when Goff has time and you know he had banged up receivers today too but

it's just he just seems so calm and in control and you can kind of had banged up receivers today too, but it's just, he just seems so calm and in control and you can kind of see how he was the number one pick. Phil Rivers was like that on Thursday night. Cause Titans couldn't pressure them. Yeah. Um, I just don't think I remember. There was dumb things though.

Like Seattle, like he had, uh, he had like 20 yards in front of him. He could have run for a first down and he threw it and it was picked. Right. It's like, it's like, it's like when you're playing, uh, you're playing Madden and you hit the, the, the,

you're trying to hit the turbo button and you hit the wrong button. You throw it instead of running. I mean, that's what that was. It just, there's too many mistakes there. I'm sorry. I know.

I had the Rams. I actually liked the Rams today. I don't re I can't really totally explain it. It was came down to McVay and the fact that I didn't think they could rush Goff. Well, people like exciting shit are going to not like what I'm about to say. The Rams are the most balanced team in that division.

They are, right? Like, Seattle has their flaws. Arizona has their flaws. The Rams could do a little of everything. Don't you think? Yeah. They could definitely pressure. They can defend pretty well

past stuff. You know, I mean, they mortgage the future for this year's team. I would hope they're pretty good. Yep. But in the running game,

you kind of never know who the running back is. It's one of those teams, but they were moving the ball today. I thought they did a pretty good job. Akers, Brown, Henderson,

all around 30 yards. All the same. Kind of the same thing every week. Yep. Not fun for fantasy. All right. did a pretty good job. Akers, Brown, Henderson, all around 30 yards. Kind of the same thing every week. Not fun for fantasy. Alright, Sunday's marquee game. Blank. I left it blank. There's no Sunday marquee game. You did? Yeah. Oh, wow.

Well, no. There's a good one. There is? There's a 7-2 against a 6-3. You're not going to say Colts Packers, are you? Yeah, why not? God damn it. Well, it doesn't matter what I say. Are you going to say Colts Packers, are you? Yeah, why not? God damn it. Well, it doesn't matter what I say. Are you really excited about Colts Packers? Fine, I'll move it into the marquee spot.

I know everyone hates the Packers. Everyone hates the Packers. That's good. Seven and two is six and three. Near the end of that Packers game, it was like fourth and 20 with Jake Luton free. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they called timeout.

And two of the Packers best defensive guys came over. They were talking to Rogers and Rogers was like telling him what to do. What do you think he was telling them? I don't know. He's a quarterback. What kind of advice was he dropping? I'm the master of the hell Mary.

And one may be coming your way, even though they're way short of the end zone. Maybe here's what you do. Yeah. That I like, I call them a, I like Luton free zone. Maybe. Here's what you do. Yeah, I call them... I like Luton free a lot. I like Luton free a lot. I call them Vladimir Luton because I had the Packers to cover

the spread and he was not allowing it to happen. Vlad Luton. Yeah. All right. Sunday Marquis. Colts home against the Packers. And the Colts, I don't fully understand it,

but they're right in the middle of this whole playoff race. The Jonathan Taylor pick was a borderline whiff. I think we're all waiting for him to be good, but considering that was like their big asset,

you see with some of these other first round running back receiver guys have done. He's kind of lost his job. Rivers has been kind of a whiff. Naheem Hines is really good. That guy's fun

to watch, Hines, right? He's an NC State guy too. I'm just saying they used $25 million for Phil Rivers in their first round pick on a running back and both of them are liabilities and yet they're 6-3. That was a weird game. That was maybe the fixed line of the week, right?

When the Colts ended up being favored at Tennessee, who has a better record, and Tennessee has fans and all that stuff, and they crush them in the second half, 34-17. You did. You went live at halftime. I did, yeah. You did an against-all-odds FanDuel live thing? So was Harry, like, he looked like he was enhanced. Harry's in there.

You know, we talk about the first half, and I'm like, Harry, while we're talking about the first half, tell us your favorite second half FanDuel props. And he had, like, 17 ready at the ready. And I'm like, all right, I don't know how we tell people to bet those, but go do it now. Yeah, they really do have a lot to bet on. The second half started, Harry's still it now. Yeah, they really do have a lot to bet on. The second half started.

Harry's still giving props. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I have Colts by one and a half over the Packers. Who gets this? I don't feel good about it. Oh, you do. You get it.

Damn it. I said two. It's one. That's fair, I think. Yeah, it's interesting. The Packers have a chance to be the one seed in the NFC, and they can't even be favored against Phil Rivers. Everybody hates this Packers team.

I think they're good. I think they would play well with everyone except maybe Kansas City right now in the Super Bowl. I'm warming up to them. The watchables, we have two. The first one is Saints home against the Falcons, which allows us to talk about my guy, Jameis. We got a little Jameis today, Sal.

We did. He came in there. He only had one drop pick. No picks. One should have been picked. I bought the Saints up to 10.5. I'm sorry. I bought San Francisco up to 10.5 I bought San Francisco up to 10.5

they went in 10-0 I love them they extended drives with their dumb defense San Francisco and the Saints scored then Jameis goes out and then that the punt was the big play it was 10-3

the punt return? the punt bounced and hit the guy in the face. Oh, the bad punt. Right, right, right. The Niners got another stop, and then all of a sudden, now it's 10-10, and you knew the game was over. But Mullins had a chance to stop. Like you said, when you drop a Jameis pick, you ought to be extra ashamed of yourself.

Yeah, it should count like two drop picks. Exactly. It's right in his breadbasket, and it's Jameis. I don't know. I didn't like the play that took. They got a 15-yard penalty on the play that took Breeze out. I didn't love that. It was very similar to the Pats. It was similar to Pats Ravens without the monsoon and the result.

Where you're watching the first quarter and you're like, holy shit, they could actually beat them. This is crazy. Right. And then that punt thing flipped it. And then the Breeze thing was weird. And he stayed on the sideline. He looked so unhappy. I don't know why he didn't just go in the locker room.

Yeah, right. I couldn't tell if he was concussed or he got benched. And it's like, something's wrong with his ribs. But the stuff after the game was really strange. Because they were like, it seemed like almost a culmination of all these minor injuries. And it's like he's broken. Yeah, that's it. Well, there's no line on this game.

Because they don't have him. I would have said four and a half. But they don't know if he's starting or Taysom Hill or Jameis. I think they're in shape with any of those guys. Let's just have the conversation now. Is Jameis picked up in our fantasy league? Is Jameis going to be a live fantasy guy this week? I feel like he is.

I feel like his ceiling is higher than Breeze's in fantasy. I mean, he might be the quarterback the rest of the way. He could play for like the next six weeks. Who knows? Breeze might have like three broken ribs. You're right. That's the way to do it, I think.

You could argue he's like a $25 fantasy auction guy. Really? That much? Yeah. All right. You could have the Saints

quarterback for six weeks. I have no money left, so I'm happy to say it. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. I don't mind either of those guys starting over Breeze. I'm not sure. I mean, they'll win this game, right?

Oh, wait, I have to talk to the dimwits listening who are in fantasy leagues where they just drafted round by round. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Um, Hey, for you guys, the guys who, who, uh, weren't strong enough to be in a real league and an auction league. So if, if whoever's top of your fantasy order, you have first dibs on Janus, that's for the under 80 IQ leagues. If you're in one of those leagues, I don't know what to tell you. I really don't. And if you feel insulted, I'm sorry,

but I'm insulted that you're in a league that's not money. Yeah. It has to be auction. It's auction all the way. There's no other way to have fantasy. I'm in a big money league with like Scott Van Pelt and Clay Travis and Todd Furman and like a bunch of ESPN people and like poker players who bet

each other thousands of dollars on their individual game. It was a snake draft. They don't allow trades because there's been so much impropriety in the past. And it's just like you said for the free agent, the waiver wire, like, no, no, you took someone last week. Your team was out because of COVID. You had to take a defense. So you cannot draft. You can't bid on Mike Davis. Oh, my God. That's so stupid.

I'm out of this. This is crazy already. What are you talking about? So it's all about the draft, which is terrible. I know. That's my son's league. Somebody waived. I mean, these are seventh and eighth graders.

Somebody waived Juju Smith-Schuster for some reason. Oh, no. And he was top of the order. He's like, I'm going waved Juju Smith-Schuster for some reason. Oh, no. And he was top of the order. He's like, I'm going to get Juju Smith-Schuster. I'm like, okay. Yeah. I call the under 80 IQ leagues. Yeah, right.

It's a kid's table. Come on. Just be in auctions, people. Yeah, the kid's table. That's all it is. That's what it should be called. The kid's table leagues. Yeah. Yeah, like my son.

You get to be like my son if you're a round by round thing. People get mad and they're like, fuck you, but I'm right. There's no argument here. Be in an auction. That's the real way to do it. Ravens coming off the monsoon loss and they're home for the

Titans. This is a classic. Neither of us are feeling really good about our team. The Ravens got more injuries today. At some point, we talked about this with the Niners four weeks ago. You have that point of no return with the injuries. They're not there yet because they have so much talent, but I'm flagging it now because if they have one more game like the one today where guys are just getting carried off.

What was the play? The Patriots scored a touchdown. They cut away to the Patriots celebration, and the very next cutaway is two Ravens down. Just lying on their faces. Yeah, right. It's like, oh, wow. I have Ravens by six. That's exactly what

I had and it's seven and it hasn't changed. I thought maybe it would change after the game based on the lethargic performance, but maybe they're banking on this is a team that knocked them out of the playoffs. Not a kitchen sink game, but shit, if they don't win this,

lots of problems kind of thing. I Lamar down, down 10 or more. You just don't feel like he's can bring them back. Right. And yeah, right. He really does lock in on his receivers.

I felt pretty comfortable. I mean, granted, I had money on the Ravens, but once it became clear the Pats were going to win, it was impossible not to for the Pats. Well, he should get better facing that Tennessee secondary. I think Phil Rivers had like 320 against them the other day. But defensively, you're going to see the same thing you saw tonight, right? Where Patriots ran all

over them. Derrick Henry's a hard physical runner. It's going to be about the same. This is a stay away. Barely watchables. There's a lot. There's many. You want to do Lions Panthers now just because there's no line? Yeah, there's no line. We still don't know about Teddy Two Gloves.

Probably not playing, right? I mean, anything with a knee? It looks like you sit out a week. I guess Panthers minus three, but who knows? I got to say, I don't mind their backup. Walker? PJ Walker? PJ Walker, the XFL guy?

I kind of like that guy. Did you see him when he came in that one game? He played a couple plays. The game Bridgewater sucked. I was like, yeah XFL guy. I kind of like that guy. Did you see him when he came in that one game? He played a couple plays. The game Bridgewater sucked. I was like, yeah, this guy's. You know, I, on Fox Bet Live the other day, when analyzing Tampa Bay, Carolina, I'm like, Carolina has a lot of problems.

One of those problems is they have six guys on their roster who went to Temple University. That can't be good for a team. It just can't be. Is that true? They do. And PJ Walker's one of them. And the Temple people went crazy on me. And I was like, take it easy. You know I'm right here,

right? It's not a hub of football, right? It's not the SEC. I know you don't have to have everyone from Alabama and LSU and Georgia, but six guys from temple. That's a, that's 11% of your roster, but they hate. So if there, so if somebody is listening who went to temple and is in a round by round fantasy draft, they're just furious right now.

They might not come back. Yeah. They're so bad at us. We're not saw my house. Uh, all right. Brown's our home for the just horrific Eagles. Yeah.

This is a good spot for them, right? The Eagles, when they're underdog, you don't want them giving points. I just didn't know what to pick. I picked Browns by four. I don't even feel good about it. That's exactly what I said. It's three and a half. Oh, man.

We tied a couple here. Yeah. I don't know what to say. I don't know. Like I said. I can't really make fun of the Eagles because they beat the Pats in the Super Bowl

two plus years. They still get to dine off that. But God damn, Wentz. He's another one. I don't feel confident in him at all. He didn't even throw a pick. He had 16 turnovers coming into today, and you would think that would be the problem.

But yeah, 21 for 37, 208, not really throwing downfield a lot. I don't know what you're going to expect from this thing. Don't you think now it's kind of in his head a little? Yeah. Because he was doing a little check down Charlie in the parts I saw. Right. It should be in his head. It's a bad team.

I think he is a trade candidate this year just because the Eagles fans, I don't know if they can go another five, six years with him. Yeah. Maybe he could be in the James Harden trade. Patriots are home. I'm sorry. Patriots are on the road against the Texans of Houston. Let me see if this changed, but go ahead.

Yeah. Nope, didn't. All right. I have the Pats by two. I had the Pats by one. Fandel has it Houston two and a half. Okay. That's your best bet?

No. The Pats, if they're down 10-3, you feel like the game's over. Yeah. I can't remember the Pats ever losing to the Texans. I know we've had different players now, but I don't know. Romeo Cornell against Belichick, I don't see it. It's amazing. Four and five against two and seven here.

Two playoff teams last year see it. It's amazing. Four and five against two and seven here. Two playoff teams last year, obviously. Dolphins. Dolphins are at Denver. This is a watchable, isn't it? Anytime the Dolphins are playing. I had it as a barely watchable because Denver has been so awful. These are Denver's. And I actually thought, I picked them in ZFL.able because Denver has been so awful. These are Denver's.

And I actually thought I picked them in ZFL. I didn't bet on the game. I actually thought maybe they would show up in this game, but no. So last four weeks, they lose to the Chiefs by 27. They beat the Chargers by one in a game they never should have won. Lose to the Falcons by seven. Lose to the Raiders by 25. The arrow's pointing down.

The arrow's pointing down. Yeah, he had four picks. You're about to say it, right? He's getting worse. It's tough because now you're at the point where you kind of want to finish three and 13 if you're them.

And at least be in the vicinity of maybe drafting a QB. How it worked out for Miami is amazing. They're going to tank for Tua. They end up actually getting their shit together to the point where they don't even finish in the bottom four.

But then Tua drops because he gets hurt and they get him anyway. And they have the distinction of kind of ruining the Patriots' legacy there or their dynasty by knocking them out of the buy. Well, Fitzmagic knocked them out of the... You got to credit somebody.

Who do you want to credit? Ended is the wrong word. The Titans? Maybe they facilitated the conclusion of the Patriots' dynasty. Oh, God. I got to choose. You're right.

Ended sounds like, you know... Look, I apologize. So it's that, it's the temple thing, and it's the Patriots. Oh, God. I got to choose. You're right. And it sounds like, you know. Look, I apologize. So it's that, it's the Temple thing, and it's the draft thing. I have a lot of people to apologize to. The Temple round by round guy

is furious right now. I have Dolphins by four and a half. That's exactly what I had. And I didn't even think that was enough. And it's Dolphins by two and a half. Oh. So this is, well, first of all, it's got to go up to our number, right?

Everybody loves betting the Dolphins. When we finish recording, I'm going to send the file to Kyle and I'm going to bet on the Dolphins. Should we pause now? Should we pause now? Just in case. Just in case. Yeah, hold on. Actually, let's take a break. I'm going to bet the Dolphins. We'll be right back.

All right. A, hold on. Actually, let's take a break. I'm going to bet the Dolphins. We'll be right back. All right, a couple more games. Vikings, home, against your crappy Cowboys. Yeah! All right. Dalton? We get Dalton in this game? They're looking for Dalton, yeah. I mean, they're actually looking for him.

He fled the team. No, they're looking at him. They think he'll be back. I don't even know who's on this team anymore. There they're looking at him. They think he'll be back. I don't even know who's on this team anymore. Part of the problem with this Vikings thing is they're playing the Bears Monday night and that could

swing this line by two points. But for now, I assume they're going to play the Bears as well. They're, I think, three-point dogs. I have the Vikings giving five to the Cowboys. I said six and a half and it's seven and a half. That's your teaser game. That's a teaser.

That's one. Just find another. Let me tell you something. Kirk Cousins will never be in a teaser that I make. Don't worry about it. He's handing off. You're talking about MVPs? What does Minnesota have to end up for Dalvin Cook to be MVP?

So if they beat Bears-Cowboys back-to-back and he has like 370 yards in those two games, then he's in the conversation. You made a pretty compelling point against Mahomes. I guess I didn't want to admit that Mahomes is probably MVP. Yeah, well, when you've got to go 14-2. Yeah, you have to look at that. The thing is, though, if he got hurt and you replaced him with an average quarterback,

I still feel like that's like a 10 and 6, 9 and 17. Chad Henney, they might make it if he's a backup. Chad Henney. Well, he's their backup, I think. Oh, I see. Just replace him? Yeah, maybe. Yeah, if you replaced him with, like, I don't know, Phil Rivers.

Right. 3 and 13. No. But in Arizona, Kyler does everything for that team. And even they're down 23-9. I'm like, oh, he's got this. He's going to get one. I'm with you.

He's the new exciting quarterback. I think sometimes we replace exciting, but his numbers are great too. I don't want to do this to him. but sometimes if we get excited by a game, we have to put them in the top two for MVP. Poop Fecta. Three. Three games in the Poop Fecta this week. First one.

Washington is home for the Bengals. Yep. The Bengals might be the mediocre bad team where they play a really good team that's hopeless, but when they're playing Washington, they actually can look pretty good. I was impressed by Washington

continuing to fight when they fell behind by three touchdowns. They actually tied the game, and it was a good job by them. I have Washington by two and a half. You're going to edge me out here. I said three. It's only one.

Okay. Making it a pick-em here. What about rookie of the year? I mean, I know we talked about Herbert, and Tua can't catch those guys, right? Because now he has three games. No, he missed too many. Herbert was the slight favorite going into this week,

and obviously Burrow was second, and then it doesn't really matter. And Tua was 9-1 at third. Anybody else? No, it was... Clyde Edwards-Hilaire now. No, James Robinson was even ahead of him. Oh, I forgot James Robinson's a rookie.

Yeah. Yeah, there weren't too many others. If Herbert goes 3-13, he's not winning rookie of the year. God. And if Burrow goes 4-12, he probably, I don't know, maybe it will be 2-0.

It's a good one to watch. Yeah. Well, let's keep an eye on it. Zion played 25 games and finished second in Rookie of the Year somehow, so. Right.

Next one, Steelers at Jacksonville against Vladimir, Vladimir Luton. By the way, I hate, I hate, I hate to correct the NBA expert, but didn't Zion finish third? Did he?

Who finished second then? I don't remember. Wow. I think he did. I just remember John went, Brandon Clark finished second? No, no. It was the other guy.

Oh, Kendrick Nunn? Yeah, that's what it was. Let's see. That's stupid. Yes. Wow. Don't worry about it. You'll learn a lot from me.

Don't worry about it. That's ridiculous. That's just a sign of old age on my part. 4.98 from Morant. Nunn, 2.04. Zion, 1.40. Sorry. You tried. It. Zion 140. Sorry. You tried.

It's hard to keep up. Zion was not on my ballot. Well, that's good at least. You play one third of the season. You're not making my ballot. He almost ruined the bubble. The bubble was created for him. They gave him every opportunity to make the playoffs.

All right. We did Steelers-Jags. I had Steelers by 11. I got it exactly. 10.5. We're right next to each other here. Who's winning right now? It's 7-5 me.

We're not right next to each other. I got the benefit of two games being knocked off the board, but you got to get the next two. Okay. I have Chargers are home for the Jets. I have the Chargers by six and a half against the frisky Jets team. I had

eight. It's nine and a half. Oh, come on. Come on. What? The Jets? That's stupid. The Chargers are terrible. They might fire their coach tomorrow. The Jets should have fired theirs a month ago. The Jets at least played hard on Monday night. The Chargers rolled terrible. They might fire their coach tomorrow. The Jets should have fired theirs a month ago. The Jets at least played hard on Monday night. The Chargers rolled over.

No, the Jets. It's the Pats? I'll tell you what. The bet is Chargers in the second half right now because the Jets had six yards in the second half against the Pats. They had like 28 yards or something stupid. Maybe they don't give up right off the bat,

but they're done by third quarter. Yeah. The chargers look pretty lively as they lost their game. Both of them probably comes back. I'll be all right. It's, it's a confounding Warren sharp has been doing a lot of stuff about how bad their play calling is.

So now when I watch them, I'm thinking about it, about, you know, these eyes, super, the most obvious run plays where the other team knows they're running and they just run the ball on the line and second 11.

Didn't they come back when they cut it to seven? They came out and they ran the ball like, oh, boy, they're going to control the second half here. Did they? Did I not watch that? They did. They did. And then all of a sudden Miami took over.

Sunday night. Chiefs at Raiders. Vegas. It's a tough one because I have no idea. Is Vegas good? What do we make of this team? Plus, they already beat the Chiefs. This was their most complete game today.

They looked pretty good. I bumped this high. I said Chiefs by six. I said seven and a half, and it's seven. So I get that. But like you said, the Raiders beat them already, right? Feels like you cheated this week. No, no, don't worry about it.

You edged me out on a bunch of them. We're going to see trends all week about Andy Reid after a bye, and it was like 37 and two or something. This seems like a really good spot for the chiefs. They don't want to go. Oh, two against the Raiders. Right.

Then there's a problem. What's Andy Reid's record coming off a bye when the country's about to shut down because of COVID for the second time in seven months. So it's a zero zero. Yeah. I think it's zero on zero. I haven't been able to find that. I think we're seeing you next week or next Friday.

I'm seeing a lot of you. I think you're coming on my podcast. I think you're, we're going to, I might have two dinners with you. We have one Thursday, right? Yeah. With Jimmy? This could be it. Yeah.

Two weeks from now, we're all stuck in our houses and apartments and wherever's again. I've not seen you in a year. I saw you, I think November 8th was your birthday party. And you probably don't remember seeing me that day either. But that was the last time. I really don't. No, I saw you at the ringer probably. I didn't.

No, no, no. I came, we did that thing for the contest winner in October. Your birthday was November. That's the last day I saw Babydoll too. It's been over a year. Well, we'll never see Babydoll again. Your birthday was November. That's the last day I saw a baby doll, too. It's been over a year. Wow. Well, we'll never see baby doll again. He's done. Freaking COVID. Oh, by the way, my dad

was upset about our conversation on Parent Corner last week about counting the trips left that your parents have to come visit. He's like, did you really do that? He's like, I'd like to think I have more than 60. He's upset. Just move him out here already

and then it's not even a conversation. It's fine. All right. Monday night, Bucks-Rams. All the night games were great.

I thought Brown was pretty good in that game today. Which Brown? Oh, Antonio Brown. I thought you meant the Rams running back. Yeah, he did.

Turns out he's better than Scottys running back. Yeah, he did. Turns out he's better than Scotty Miller. Yeah. He's all right. It's not all flash. All those sleepovers paid off. He's going to be okay.

They walloped him. What'd they score today? They ended up with 46. Jesus. And whatever they're doing to Gronk, he looks as good as he's looked in a while. Out of the TB12, whatever's going on in Florida.

Yeah, for sure. Eating alligators. God only knows. And Ronald Jones, everyone was cursing him. I think he fumbled in the first quarter, right? And then he had that monster run. He ended up with 192. Their defense was good.

I know Bridgewater went out, but I think they only allowed like 215 yards of total defense or something. They're back. Everyone screamed about them. They're 7-3. They're going to be fine, Tampa. I had the Bucs minus 5 over the Rams. Oh, too high. I had 3. It's 3.5.

What too high? It's Jared Goff against a good defense. Why is that too high? You saw the Rams. The Rams beat Seattle, who's everyone's best team in the NFC. I don't know. Can't make it five.

Do we even have a teaser? We'll put the Chiefs with something. Chiefs and Vikings? The Chiefs are going to lose to the Raiders twice probably. No. No. All right. That's a win for me.

7-2-2 now. Or 2-7-2. You're 2-7-2. One thing with the Rams, they are going to be able to pressure Brady. Mm-hmm. And then

if they can do the thing where they just move him, make him have to go right or left, he's not the same guy. That's what the Saints did to him.

I think the Rams could do that. Can we decide the inadvertent slap on the face mask by a defender is it a penalty or not because they didn't call it when they did it to brady sunday night they didn't call it when aaron donald did it to russ today they did call it on the cowboys for doing jaylen uh right doing it to bet let's just figure it out let's just figure it out. Let's just figure out if we're going to call it because it's 15 yards and you're very ever so slightly touching the face mask,

which is meant to, to protect the face, I think. So I'm, I'm all in a favor of, uh, letting it go. If it's not too egregious.

I've been saying this for 20 years. I just think the ref should be able to decide Between 5, 10, 15 20, 25 They could have a 40 yard face mask If it's a really bad one Like the one when Jerry Rice blew his knee out 10 years ago Nobody remembers that

One more thing If you could review 12 men on the field You should be allowed to review anything Anything If we're going to stop down and count field, you should be allowed to review anything. Anything. If we're going to stop down and count players, then you should be able to look if a guy's being held or something and still keep it to the same standard. You get one taken away.

You're not allowed a million of them, but you can review anything. That's it. I know that's not an original thought, but when I saw the 12 men on the field, that ticked me off. Well, congrats for beating me. Thank you. Our bi-week teams this week are B field, that ticked me off. Well, congrats for beating me. Our bye week teams this week are Bills, Bears, Giants and 49ers. Who are you going to miss

the most out of those four? I feel best for the Niners. Finally, they get to rest that pathetic team. Maybe fantasy-wise, I'm not missing anybody. I don't have any Bills. Who are you going to miss? I like

changing my opinion on Josh Allen every 10 minutes. He had two picks today and he should have had three. They dropped one. On that last drive, he's just throwing dimes. His receivers are jumping seven feet in the air to catch passes.

He's just become scary all of a sudden. He he also has these plays, like they kept comparing him to Roethlisberger, the announcers, where he's getting sacked and the guy just bounces off him and he just kind of keeps standing up and buys three more seconds.

He's a rollercoaster ride. I don't know how I feel about him. I like him, I think, more than Lamar, but way less than Kyler Murray. But in those athletic, wow, play kind of guys, he's definitely scary when you're betting on him and against him. I'll put it that way. Yes, that's a good point.

I mean, all right, so I think we'll come up with a better name for this, but there are hard attack quarterbacks. And there are different levels of, uh, of like, uh, you know, like basically they're all, they're all talented, but Josh Allen's one of them. Right. I would even say Herbert's one of them. Russell Wilson's ultimate one of them, but probably the most talent. Who else would you put in there?

Who's a hard attack quarterback? I think Lamar when it's like 70 degrees outside and they actually kind of let him do his thing. Josh Allen's number one to me. Russell Wilson, you feel good when you bet on him. Very rarely I wish I had him better than Russell Wilson. Josh Allen, seven times during the

game, you're going to be upset that you bet on him. Derek Carr is getting there. He's getting there. He ditches the cousins level guy where there's like three or four or five of those. But I think Derek Carr is right up there. The question for me is whether Herbert

is better than being a hard attack guy or not. Because I actually think you make case he is. But he's a rookie. He's like 12 years old. He has two or three awful throws a game. So, I don't know. Right now, he's a hard attack guy,

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What? Yes, yes, and that's it. That's the announcement. I didn't know I had him, and I found out. I got something in the mail. No. It's a girl I met at Temple. That's right, Temple University.

So his hair is real shaggy, and especially during the quarantine, these kids don't care. Like, they're on Zoom and they're not really seeing anybody. But my son announces that he wants to get his hair cut. So I'm like, all right, how much is it? He goes to the same guy every time. He's like, it's $25. So I give him $25 and he goes.

And I see him later that night and I was like, what happened? Was it closed or something? He's like, no, I got it cut. I was like, no, you didn't. He was like what happened was it was it closed or something he's like no i got it cut i was like no you didn't he's like yeah i got a cut it's like it's it's no different to the eye not even a bit different than when i saw i left him in the morning i'm like what are you talking about and then he starts getting mad he's like i just got a little that's it i just got it cleaned up a little i'm like you look like you're auditioning for like the the beatles live tour i don't know what's going on here what is so i think like there's a giant racket going on the biggest racket i think right now is termite inspections because no matter what they're going to tell you you have termites the second biggest is adolescent

like 15 year old boy hair cutters because i think they're in cahoots with the kids once they get there. And they're like, yeah, you don't need a haircut. Come on. You look good there. Well, they all have it long on the top too. It's all so long. Right. And it's thick and they don't get a cut. And he's getting mad at me because I'm challenging him on it. So I don't even know what the answer is here, but I'm on to you. Nobody's getting their haircut. You're pocketing the $25. Oh, so you think he's pocketing the money? I wonder. This is great. I wonder. And I'm all for helping the local businesses that were shut down for months. But if he's not pocketing the money and someone's taking $25 for what they call a haircut that I saw, that's shameful. But I almost rather him

say he's pocketing the money because this is not a good service. That's like when we were in college and we asked for, or at least I did ask for money for a gym membership, but it was really for gambling debts. Right. The January 1991 playoffs. I just got, 1991 or 92, I got massacred. I was like, mom, I'm going to start working out. I got to get in better shape. Oh God. You know how many yearbooks I ordered

that were never complete for whatever reason? Paying off three-team teasers in 1992? My parent corner, I'm breaking the rules a little bit this time. It's a two-part parent corner, but the first main part. It's about

a parent, but it's my dad. So, you know, they had the Masters on Thursday and Friday. It was on ESPN, especially Thursday. They did a really nice job on ESPN Plus. And you can watch the leaders, the kind of featured group, like

Tiger, guys like that. Or they have the Amen Corner. Cameron, you can do that one., you know, you bounce around. So I call my dad. I'm like, I just want to make sure you're watching on ESPN+. It's really cool. Like you can pick your thing. You can follow Tiger.

And he's like, yeah, I'm just going to wait till later when it's on. Like he's like embarrassed. And I'm like, well, wait a second. Why wouldn't you just go watch it? Like you're home. You don't have a job. He's like, nah,

I don't remember my username. It doesn't work. So I'm like, well, just go, go upstairs. So I make him go upstairs. We're on FaceTime. And I'm like,

put my information in. So I have my information. I know my username. I know the password. So you can only imagine how long this took. He doesn't have my information. I know my username. I know the password. So you can only imagine how long this took. He doesn't have Apple TV. He's got all the apps on his Samsung TV. Right.

What is it? What is your username and password? So I'll tell that. I'm going to spell that out. Good. So he finds the app, puts it in. And now I'm going like letter by letter. Doesn't work.

And then I'm like, did you do the capital for, because you got to put the capital in the password because you have to Oh no, I didn't do that. Now we're going to start over. It's very slow. So now he's like holding the FaceTime toward the TV and I'm trying to see squinting like what

he's doing. And I'm just like, put the letters in. Now I'm like yelling the letters like B S, you know, just like scream bad. And then finally forget it, forget it. And does the whole martyr thing. Oh no. Doesn't want it. And I'm like, all I'm doing is giving him like eight letters and a couple of numbers and then, you know, eight more letters and a couple of numbers, whatever it is. And why can't this work? So he gives up and now I say, I don't and a couple of numbers, whatever it is. And why can't this work? So he gives up.

And now he's like, I don't want it. I don't need it anyway. I'll just, I'll watch, I'll watch the leaderboard on the ESPN.com, like the little sad score thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was thinking like. Eight minutes behind. Yeah, it's always behind too. Yeah.

Because my mom has the same thing where she, you know, she can't, her Hulu thing all of a sudden, and she doesn't remember what the password was. And she has this piece of paper that has her passwords, but then she can't find the paper and she can't get in. And it's like, did you see that new show? And, and they're just like, I don't know my Amazon password. I can't watch it. So I was thinking, you know how to have like the best best by the geek squad? Yeah. I think somebody should just be like the password squad for people over 70. That first they come in and they just put the passwords in and then they keep track of them.

And then it's like a hotline and people like my dad and your parents. And when they're like, oh, I can't remember my password to this, you just call the password hotline and these people are like their conciliaries. Because it's every old person. It's not like it's just my dad. It's anyone over 70. It's like once you take three passwords, it's over. They can't remember anything.

I'm with you, except stupid. We don't want everyone in the world knowing everybody's password. You don't want to, that's the whole point of being secretive about your password. But that's what, but it's almost like you'd have to pay a service. I know, but you got to trust these people who have thousands of passwords. Well, think who we trust. We trust everybody.

Google and Facebook, they sell our shit everywhere. All right, well, let's get it from them. Everyone knows everyone's password. I know. I just hate giving it out. I know I'm with you, but first of all, there's apps that do this. You can put the password in the app and it retrieves it.

If you don't want to, I keep mine in the notes, which is probably bad. Yeah, you keep notes of it and somebody steals it. Then my dad's like, well, next time you're here, I'm like, where did we shut down? I'm not going to see you for like two years. I'm definitely not going to be there. Can you get here by

before they tee you off on Friday? He used my Peacock password and that one worked. So I really felt like we were on a streak, but it fell apart. So anyway, that was part one. Then the part one is, I don't know why parents can't remember

passwords to anything, but it's going to happen to us someday. Do you feel, I was just going to say, do you feel like it's going to happen to us? Oh, yeah. Do you feel like you do? Like you think, like, and they probably thought this too, but I'm like, wow, technology is never going to get better than this. You'll stream whatever you want. Maybe you could pick what games you want on what channel, but what kind of tech

are our kids going to be rolling our eyes at us? Because I feel like I could take a picture and email that. What more do you have to do? And remember your passwords. It's going to be so much more complicated. Really? When we're old, it's going to be like Disclosure when Michael Douglas is going, puts on the

virtual goggles and he's moving his emails by hand. I don't want to know that. That sucks. Anyway, so that was part one. Part two was, I saw my son a couple hours ago. He's like, you're doing the podcast with Sal?

I'm like, yeah. Every Sunday we do the podcast. He's like, what's the parent corner going to be? And I'm like, I'm going to do it about your grandfather. And he's like, what the hell?

I had a really good week. And I'm like, what are you talking about? And he proceeded to talk, give five examples of reasons why he should have been on Parent Corner.

So I think, I don't know if he's now gaming the system. And by really good, he meant really bad, right? Well, his strongest case was that I banned him from buying virtual currency

on PlayStation because I took my thing off. But somehow he has now figured out how to still buy himself stuff, which he revealed to me. And he was like, you can put that in parent corner. I figured out how to still charge stuff to your credit card on this stuff. I'm like, all right,

cool. I think the idea, I see why he wants you to talk about it, because it really ends with him getting over on you. Right? A lot of these, if not all of them. Yeah, it's basically all the 80s sitcoms we grew up watching.

They've now figured out how to flip it on us. Right. All right, that was Parent Corner brought to you by CarMax, America's number one used car retailer, car buying, car selling, the way it should be. Check them out today at CarMax.com.

So Sal, other than the normal stuff you have to plug, you're on a 4-0 streak on the Thursday night Fox picks. Yeah. Which, of course, the reason I found this out was you did an Instagram post with the squares of the four different picks. When's it going to happen again? I had to do it. What do you want me to do?

No, you're like the baseball pitcher. You walk into the dugout. You've thrown five scores. You're like, hey, guys, I'm throwing a no-hitter. Oh, how dare you? What do you want me to do? I have a no-hitter. I've retired 15 batters in a row.

That's right. Yeah, so you're definitely losing on Thursday. I'm just telling you. It's a loss. Arizona-Seattle? I still haven't figured it out. Guaranteed L. Probably. I couldn't believe you did that Instagram. That was the dumbest move I've seen from you in a while.

If I hit two in a row, you're going to hear about it. Four in a row? Are you kidding me? I got to do it. Thursday Night Football, I'm on. Pre-game show, Fox Bet Live, 5 p.m. on FS1 Sports Gambling Show. Extra Points Podcast Network.

Simmons has spawned this network. He's like, go, go off and do your thing. I said, all right, here I am. We got sports gambling podcast there. Against all odds, are you coming on? Are we going to talk draft? Yeah, Tuesday. I have to figure out when.

Oh, here we go. No, no, I'm going to do it. You might have to work around my schedule. All right. I'm willing to do it. You might have to work around my schedule. All right. I'm willing to do that. The guys are all excited because Westbrook going to the Knicks is a hot...

They actually have odds on that. And they want you to talk them off a lot. Is there a way to bet that that's not going to happen? Oh, against it? Oh, really? That's not happening. Yeah, Westbrook's not going to the Knicks.

He's going to Charlotte? Westbrook's not going anywhere. Nobody wants Westbrook. Really? Two years from now, he makes $47.1 million. Nobody's going near him. All right. Well, they're excited to talk to you about that. And that's it. I don't know. How many times am I allowed

to make fun of Harry? Every time. Every like two minutes? Every single time. I told you, he's still betting Korean baseball. I don't know how that's still a thing. Wasn't that like going the beginning of the pandemic? He like starts every day. He's still doing that? It starts every morning down like $140 betting Korean baseball. I think you have to tell brother Bri that when you're on these Zooms and you're cutting videos for them, that they're being videotaped and human beings are seeing them. What do you mean? What's he doing? He always looks like he just rolled out of bed and just turned some dim light on and

doesn't seem to realize you're cutting videos. Brother Bri, step it up. Wow. He actually has a job. I think he's tired. Is that what it is? He got the Zoom light. Isn't that what you're supposed to get?

The one I saw the other day, it looked like he was in Bosnia. In somebody's basement. He's doing the Bosnia Invitational. We bet on everything. Oh, man. It's a crazy run after the three-month drought. It just keeps going and going.

I don't want to bring anyone down, but college basketball, let's put it this way. Does college basketball start on time? I don't know if we have college basketball. Alright, talk to you next week. That seems like a tall task.

I know. It would be empty gyms. Right. task. I know. I know. It would be empty gyms. Right. I don't know. I know. I'm getting sad about it, too. I don't know what December is going to look like, but we'll see. We got Mac football on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

I would tell everyone out there to stay safe and wear their masks, but clearly that ship has sailed. People do whatever the fuck they want. Nobody listens. Yeah. Let's tell them to continue to do whatever they want. And then maybe they'll start wearing their mask if we tell them that. I don't know.

I can't wait to breathe all over you on Thursday. Yeah. It's going to be fun. Cuz, good job by you. Good job by you, buddy. I want to see them on the way. So I don't have.