The Bill Simmons Podcast - Hurts So Good, Denver’s Hell, a Messy NFC South, and a Loaded Week 13 Slate With Cousin Sal

Episode Date: November 28, 2022

The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss the Eagles' win over the Packers that brings Philly to 10-1, Patriots-Vikings, the Commanders earning some respect, the Bucs' loss to the Browns keeping the NFC South ambiguous, the "Season From Hell" rankings, Ravens-Jaguars, Chargers-Cardinals, and more (1:55). Then, they guess the lines for NFL Week 13 (41:22), before closing the show with Parent Corner (1:12:18). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Cousin Sal and I were going head-to-head in fantasy. It was a loser-age-town fantasy match. Christian Watson on my team, 75-yarder and a touchdown in the last seven minutes. Semi-garbage time. I knocked you out. You're done. I hope I win the title. I can vote you out.

I can't wait. You were taunting me. I remember every mean thing you said, just for the record. Well, listen. I'm going to turn it around and be very gracious and just say this. Your team sucks, and you suck as a fantasy owner. You paid $15 for the Jets defense. You were bragging about it this morning before the game even started,

before anyone could find what channel that game was on. The Bears already had 10 points. You paid $5 for Christian Watson. Don't ever anyone confuse Bill Simmons with someone who knows what they're doing in fantasy because he hasn't won a title since I've known him, and it will remain that way. First of all, you're forgetting about my legendary 2007

title, where I almost went undefeated. I didn't know you then. 15 years ago. 2007. You made fun of me for paying $15 for the Jets defense, but... Yeah, it was terrible. It's atrocious. It's like $10 more than anyone would ever pay for a defense. Yeah, but I still have like $11 left.

At some point, you just lose the money if you don't spend it. We have one more week in the season. If you buy a single White Castle restaurant for $300 million and it ends up turning a profit, you can't be like, oh, look what I did. Come on. What was that analogy? I don't know. I'm just so mad.

I'm mad about the Christian Watson thing. I'm mad. I'm angry. I'm upset. Because CBS, that stupid CBS site has the percentages, and I'm like, it's 68%, 91%, 92%. I'm like, all I am is a missed tackle away from losing this. Oh, whatever. Nobody cares

about this fantasy stuff. But we do care about the stupid percentages that they're always wrong on. The guru. The guru on CBS never seems to have any idea of what actually might happen. He or she needs to retire already. Well, Green Bay and Philly was interesting because, for a couple reasons. One is the Eagles rushed for, what, the most yards since 1948? That seems relevant. Yep. It what the most yards since 1948. That seems relevant.

Yeah. It's like 365 yards or something. What was the final number? 364 and 301 was from Hertz and Sanders alone. It was. Oh, my God. I mean, he had 125 rushing and passing at half, which I don't remember seeing in a quarterback. So that was their resume for when it gets colder when you're

gonna not be able to just run around and have these like you know pass and run type games and you actually have to just play smash mouth we can do that i was stunned by how bad the packers were though with like like collinsworth was pointing it out like the way they're rushing hurts we have the blueprint from last week we're just kind of people in front of him, make sure he doesn't scramble, and just kind of wait him out. And instead, they're flying at him. He's like, cool. He just kept running by them. I was embarrassed for the Packers. It wasn't the worst coaching performance of the week, but it was right up there. Yeah, for sure. And Rodgers was hurt. I'm going to give him a pass there because he

looked, and I guess it's an oblique issue, but like it was getting to a point where every time he dropped back or after every play, he was like looking down. It looked like me the last seven minutes of every Southwest Airlines flight, like trying not to vomit. He's just like staring at the ground, staring. And finally he took himself out of the game. And Collinsworth and Tirico, before, he throws a good pass,

like, that's Aaron Rodgers' weed low in love. And then it's like, this Jordan Love could throw the ball. We saw him in training camp. You don't have to pick a side, but you don't have to get crazy about everything.

Collinsworth was deranged today because he had the Rodgers thing. He was treating like it was Rocky fighting Apollo in the 15th round. Oh, Aaron Rodgers. He can, oh my God, Mike. He can barely, it's kind of like a straight up week. He was acting like his vertebrae had been knocked out of his body.

And then Jordan Love came in and threw three nice passes. And Collins was like, this is the Jordan Love. And then he missed a wide open guy in the end zone. Missed another guy. Can I say, and it's going to sound like we don't like him. I love Collinsworth. like, this is the Jordan love. And then he missed a wide open guy at the end zone. Missed another guy. Can I say, and it's going to sound like we don't like him. I love Collinsworth. I love him too. His insight with the whole thing.

Yes, they're rushing too wide, and that allows Hurts to step up. It's like, oh, now you're going to look at the game differently, the rest of the game. But he really does sound like he's been woken up at 530 in the morning by the children on Christmas. And it's like, oh, kids, come on, just let me sleep another 25 minutes. Those gifts are going to be wrapped when we wake up at 7. Come on, leave me alone.

I'll be with the wife for a minute. Aaron Rodgers. Well, we love him. We do love him. We do love him. But I got to say, it was a big misfire by those guys. They were making it seem like, could this be it for Aaron Rogers and green Bay?

Is it Jordan love time? Rogers just signed this massive contract that there's kind of no way out of, and I don't know how he's not the starter for at least next season, but I, I just didn't understand that they were making it seem like this was like the last dance for Aaron Rogers. It's like, guess what?

He's going to be the quarterback next year. He's there as long as he wants to be. Yes, as long as he wants to be. And that's kind of how it always has been. So, you know, we might see Jordan Love against who was it? Nathan Peterman next week on the Bears. You might get used to that, but it's only because

this oblique issue, which is obviously, you know, putting him in pain. Well, if you're Rodgers, next week they play the Bears, you're like 92-1 lifetime against the Bears. Do you even risk it? You own the Bears. No. You have a Super Bowl and you own the Bears. Those are the two things you have.

Yeah, and you repeatedly remind them that you own them. And so they're going to go after you a little extra hard. So yeah, maybe sit this one out. I mean, they have eight losses now. They're not going to make the playoffs. So you could be picky about where you're going to start the rest of the way. I think they're a cross-off team, right?

Like we can officially send them packing? They have some tough games ahead. Maybe the Bears aren't one of them, but they would have to run the table to go 9-8. And I don't even know if that does it because we're going to talk about some other teams that just don't lose like the Washington Commanders. Good Lord.

So they're 4-8 at Chicago by Rams. So they could win those two. That would be 6-8. Yeah, but then again... At Miami, home Minnesota, home Detroit. The problem for them, I don't see any scenario where 10-7

is in the cutoff now in the NFC because of what Washington's doing. Washington's up to 7-5 if the season ends today they'd be the 7th playoff team so don't you think 10 wins takes it now? I do. Going into the year what do we think? 9-8 for the NFC, 11-6 for the AFC

but now it might be might be different like the chargers might get in at nine and eight and the like you said washington could be the seven seed at 10 and seven yeah i think that's a good it's a good breakdown i think we said it was going to be nine and eight in the nfc and that the nfc south team was going to go six and 11 i think we're too predict no no we don't't predict that, but that's actually what's going to happen. The NFC South You're so mad at the Bucs. You're so mad at them today. Well, I actually

had a decent betting day in real life, and Tampa was one of the ones. It was 17-10 for an hour. And they just... Do you want to talk about that game now? I guess. Hold on to that, because the Eagles-Packers, do you feel differently about the Eagles after that game

or do you feel the same? I still think they're beatable and they're going to have games like they did at Washington, home against Washington, and what they did last week against the Colts. I think they're somewhere in between there and what we saw tonight. They should not be able to run for 360 yards. I mean, that was just too easy against a banged up Packers defense or just kind of quit on the run game at least.

But yeah, they're going to win 13, 14 games, and they're going to be a one seed and be definitely a tough out. But yeah, we'll throw the Niners in there, and my Cowboys are going to be tough. And I still don't count the Vikings who are going to end up with 13-14 wins. Oh my God. Fucking Michael Myers. We'll talk about that later. I think Hurts... So we got six weeks left.

And I think Hurts now has cemented himself as a legitimate MVP threat after that game. That checked a lot of boxes, right? He was awesome. It was a Sunday night game. Statistically, he's going to move into some pretty interesting stratospheres with the run stats, the pass

stats, the pass versus interceptions. They have a chance to go, what, 15-2, 14-3? Something like that. It wasn't like Mahomes set the world on fire today. Mahomes is still going to be the favorite, but he's at least lingering. He almost set his team on fire. If they had anything on the other side

of the Rams, they would have been in trouble. Yeah, that was sad. But yeah, I'm looking for MVP odds. They don't have them just yet, but I'm sure within the hour it'll come up. So with the Eagles, they have Tennessee next week, at Giants, at Chicago, at Dallas,

Saints, Giants. That's how they end. That feels like 14-3, 15-2 to me. Yeah, one or two more losses, I would say. Yeah. And then Green Bay is a wrap. I'm going to say something nice about Philly fans, so cover your ears.

I think they do a really good job. I really respect the old... Did someone threaten you? Just blink twice if there's a Philly fan with a cheese steak to your head. This hurts me to even talk about this, but I do think there's a knowledge with their in-the-crowd fan base. Like when Jair Alexander, they thought he faked the injury, and then they booed him when he came back on the field

and chanted asshole at him. You're not getting that in an LA Chargers game. Okay. I mean, you can give them credit, but they are just looking to boo at any instance they can. It's like, well, what can we boo at? The guy, he seems to be faking it. Oh, get out of here, your mother says.

Yeah, it might be a little of that, but they are knowledgeable for sure. That's a good atmosphere. That's going to be a tough one for round two, round three. By the way, I should mention, I'm sick for the third time in five and a half weeks with the third different cold that I've had.

Much like Aaron Rogers with the oblique today, I'm fighting through it, but I might cough a couple times, but it's not COVID. I've been sick three times without COVID. I would have rather just had COVID. Who's your Jordan love? Is that your nephew, Kyle? Do you want to go to the locker room for a minute? Nephew Kyle and I could talk about, you know, the Dolphins and Texans. It's, it's Jordan house. It's Jordan loves wings.

Philly's 10 and one, Minnesota's nine and two and Dallas is eight and three. And I just don't see any scenario where Philly doesn't get the win seed now unless somebody gets hurt yeah too many wins ahead I think at this point and I also just hate the Vikings and we're going to get to their lines and everything in the second

they're disrespected and they should be and you ought to be ashamed of yourself for many reasons but the Patriots just giving up first of all that guy reasons, but the Patriots losing, just giving up. First of all, that guy's afraid of the dark. Cousin sought out therapy. Now he's no longer, he's wetting himself in these primetime games. And you go out there and you make him look like he belongs right in Canton,

right there. What was he, 300 yards, 30 for 37? Disgusting. What's wrong with your defense? I got crushed in a variety of ways on Thursday night, including it was Thanksgiving. I was with nephew Kyle and my family. I really thought the Pats

were going to show up. And this has been the whole season. Unforced errors, dumb penalties at the worst time. They gave Minnesota, I think it was five first downs on penalties. Just over and over again.

Stupid little stuff that matters. It's third and 12. We're going to get the ball back. Jud over and over again. Stupid little stuff that matters. It's third and 12. We're going to get the ball back. Up, Judon's off sides. Now it's third and seven. Double Jefferson. Up, where did he go? Oh, he got a 30-yarder. Running into the punter after you just get a big stop when the punter's sticking his leg out,

dying to get run into. It's just this very un-Belichick-y team. I gotta say, like all year, these games that felt like they could have been wins, that they leave them on the table.

That Jets-Pats game last week was another one. The punt return saved them from this overtime scenario that would have been pretty scary. But they're 6-5 and they should be.

The Chargers are 6-5. The Bengals are the team that I think has ascended. I think that's a 6-5. The Bengals are the team that I think has ascended. I think that's a really good team, that Bengals team. They started out slow for whatever reason, but that Tennessee win, I watched that whole game today. That was to do that without Chase.

They got a little luck. They got a field goal, a missed field goal from the Tennessee guy at one point. But I just don't think the Pats are in the class of those teams. They're the good-bad team, right? They're the good-bad team in the AFC. I don't know who it is in the NFC, but I think it think the Pats are in the class of those teams. They're the good, bad team, right? They're the good, bad team in the NFC. I don't know who it is in the NFC, but I think it's the Pats. Well, it's no surprise to me that you didn't mention Mac Jones

since you were so wrong about him. I mean, you apologize to the world about Mac Jones. He's good. He is good. He's fine. He's good enough. He's good enough. I've been saying it for weeks, and you can compete with him,

but if you go 6-6, you had your bye yet? You did, right? Yeah, you had your bye. So that would be 6-6. You play Thursday night. It's brutal, though. We had to have that Minnesota game because next week, Buffalo Thursday night. At Arizona, which I think should be a win.

At Las Vegas, who the hell knows. Cincinnati home, Miami home. At Buffalo, Cincinnati home, Miami home, at Buffalo week 18, which initially was like, oh, Buffalo have everything wrapped up, don't even play their starters. That could be Buffalo like trying to, you know, either playing for the AFC East

or playing for a 5C. That game's going to matter. So I don't see it going back to 10 and 7. I think you're right. I didn't even know it was that bad. But those teams are so screwy that you have to lose one of them, Cardinals or Raiders. You almost have to lose one.

I know. To have those two back-to-back, they're like a wrestling tag team that does weird shit and throws salt in your eyes. We should beat Arizona, Belichick versus Kingsbury. But that's the thing. It's not a Belichick team. The Belichick versus Kingsbury, but that's the thing. It's not a Belichick team. Like the Belichick teams in the past,

the special teams touchdown, granted the guy was held, the hell Duggar during the return, but that was a huge, that was like a, you know, 11 point swing where Henry almost gets a touchdown. Then he doesn't.

Then all of a sudden there's a kick return. I don't know. I was pretty, I was pretty disappointed because I do think this Pat's team's talented and they're just, I don't know. They're just kind of a little rough shot. I thought like the Pat's a little underrated Vikings still overrated,

even though everyone knows they're a fraud, but they're nine and two. I thought this was going to be where you just smack them up a little bit. And, you know, Bella check on three day, you thought at least they would come prepared. I also had adjusted.

I had the adjusted under, which wasn't even close to hitting. So, oh my God. Yeah, I was like 58. Yeah, the kick return wasn't open. 58 and a half and it went 59. Disgusting. I'm going to say something nice about Cousins. I thought he made some big throws in that game. I thought we pressured him

and I thought for the most part, the whole primetime cousins thing, we kept waiting for it and Kyle and I were like, throw us one Kirk. And it's just like in the second half, he just didn't. He made good plays and I thought he was, he kind of took over the game a little bit. It was tough because we shut down Dalvin Cook.

That was probably the most competitive of the three Thanksgiving games. Your team, whatever. Doesn't it suck having a game on Thanksgiving? I don't love it. I would love a break from it. I know.

Even though we were up 15, the Cowboys, with like a minute and a half left. Yeah, you knew. I just can't take it. It's agonizing. And I'm just like coughing up all the turkey and cranberry that I ate within the last hour. Yeah, well, that game is going right when everybody starts eating, which is part of the problem. The Giants, they duct taped

it for about eight weeks there, and now it's like, okay, you're going to do the naked bootleg with Dana Jones. Here's the play where you run Saquon into eight guys. It just feels like they've kind of flamed out. They've been supplanted by Washington. I think Washington is,

I don't want to say they're for real and like a Super Bowl contender, but I do think they're a legitimate like top seven team in the NFC. Like they get stops. They have a knack for making plays in the last three minutes of these games. They have a couple guys,

a couple skill position guys. I think Robinson was excellent today against Atlanta. McLaurin can make some guys. I think Robinson was excellent today against Atlanta. McLaurin can make some plays. I think they're not bad. They're weak spots. Heineke. I don't think Brian Robinson will break down.

He had over 100 yards today. Didn't, you know, not 30 touches either. Yeah. Heineke, two touchdowns, and they're doing it all. Chase isn't even back on the field, right? So this could get real ugly for teams. That's a tough team to beat in January. Doesn't that seem like a team that goes on the road and wins one and then plays the second one tight? I mean, they already beat Philly, so why not?

Yeah, I like them because they definitely have an identity. And I don't know when it developed, but you could feel it the last few weeks. They like these close games. They know they can run the ball. Robinson's a really interesting player because he kind of reminds me of Eric Dickerson. I know he's not Eric Dickerson, but he's totally upright. Usually you see these running backs and they're a little crouched and they're trying to figure out how to... And he's just like this upright. He's almost like a sprinter.

And he just kind of cuts through and he figures out how to navigate. I think Gibson's good too. I like that team. Heineken's the weak spot, but they play hard for him. They can't bring back Wentz. I think that ship has probably sailed. That's enough of that. They play the Giants this week too, so that'll, you know, we'll know a lot there.

The team's an embarrassment too. The front office really is crazy. The Sean Taylor thing today with the Memorial, where he's wearing Reebok and Nike and Adidas, and he's got wire arms. Why even put that out there? No, they're like an HBO show. Yeah, it's like almost asking for trouble, Dan Snyder.

Like, purposely doing this stuff, I think. You might be right. They're at Giants next week, bye week, then home for the Giants or their next three. So they could be nine and five in the span of a couple weeks. Let's take a break.

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Alright, the stupid Tampa Bay team. I think I've been on the wrong side of them probably five times now. I don't know how I'm doing it. Over and over again, I've been on the wrong side of whoever. But today with Tampa, it's 17 to 10 for like an hour. At one point, they have the ball.

It's like 12 minutes left. It's fourth 12 minutes left. It's fourth and two on the Cleveland 37. And they're like, this is great. They can run for five yards against this. Cleveland has the worst run defense in the league. Just run the ball, whatever. They take a delay a game.

It's like, that's weird. And then they punt it in the end zone. And that was what they did with a seven point lead. It's just like, go for it. You can go up 10 against Jacoby Brissett with 10 minutes left. What are you guys doing? Go for the kill.

They, uh, they had a three and out. They had that fourth and two, then another three and out. They had a three and out in the final three minutes. They get the ball back with like under three minutes left chance. One first down games over. They can't even get that. They let the Browns come like under three minutes left. Chance one first down, game's over. They can't even get that.

They let the Browns come back down fourth and 10. Najoku catches that he doesn't know Dell in the back of the end zone. Overtime. They go six plays for 18 yards punt. Cleveland stop. Get the ball back. Six plays for 16 yards punt. You can't punt twice in overtime.

They punted twice in overtime. It's so bad. It really is. This team's 5-6 and everybody's thinking, oh no, this will be the team. These will be the guys that win the AFC South. Sal, I'm telling you. The NFC South.

Kyle, turn the camera on. Turn the camera on, Kyle. Don't listen to Sal. Turn it on. Turn on the camera on. Turn the camera on, Kyle. Turn on. No, don't listen to Sal. Turn on. Turn on the camera. We say goodbye to Carolina. You crossed them off.

No, I've uncrossed them. They're 4-8. They're... Listen to the rest of the way. They're at Seattle, who... Seattle has no pass rush anymore. You just get to stand back and run around for nine seconds against them. That'll be fine against Sam Darnold, but go ahead.

Sam Darnold was good today. Home Pittsburgh, home Detroit, at Tampa, home New Orleans. Dennis Allen will probably be fired a minute after that game. I don't know. I think 8-9 is going to win this division. And if they win that Tampa game, could they go 4-1 the rest of the way? It's conceivable. I guess.

And they're a physical team. They really are. I wouldn't want to play them week to week. But, you know, Darnold. Go backwards, though. Remember that first week Cleveland, that Cade York made a 59-yarder to beat him? Second week against the Giants, They completely fucked that game up. The first Atlanta game,

DJ Moore takes his helmet off when they're about to win. I don't know, man. They're better than a 4-18. Losers do. They lose weird games. They have weird endings. So you're asking Sam Donald to put together like

three straight wins at some point. That's what you do. That's what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing. You're just mad. You're mad at Brady. Listen, I think you're looking at this the wrong way. We need to embrace this.

This is really like, we want them to be the fourth seed. That'll be so, you know how much he'll be overvalued spread-wise, Tom Brady? Yeah, so we're always looking for a playoff team to root against. If they're a four seed,

maybe Washington's a five seed. Maybe Dallas is the five seed. You'll get points. That's our pick. Come on. Well, here's the irony today. They fucked that game up so badly that it goes in overtime. Then the right tackle gets hurt.

Right? Worse. He's probably out. They said the x-rays were negative. Who knows? But he's going to be out for a few weeks. So instead of just

putting the game away and regulation being six and five, you lose in overtime. You're five and six and you lose your right tackle. And then the other thing, Kyle, don't listen to this part.

Is the camera still on? Kyle, turn the camera off and turn your headphones off. Turn it sideways, Kyle. Turn it, like, face the ceiling. Yeah. Brady was bad in that game today. Like, Brady looked old.

He was sailing balls over people's head. He missed, I would say, eight wide-open guys in that game. He missed throws that he would make in his sleep 10 years ago. The ones that are blocked at the line of scrimmage are the ones that concern me. Not that I care, but, right? Those are the ones, like like, oh my God, in a crossing pattern, he should get that. That's a six-yard throw. Why isn't anyone getting their mitts on it? If he was even a C-plus in that game, they win easily.

And then the other guy, and I don't know if he's hurt or what's going on, but Mike Evans looks like he's semi-washed up. Listen, these are guys I started against you. I had Brady and Evans. It was disgusting. If they do anything like you said, I would have beaten you by 15 points. But yeah, that was a bad game to watch. Really bad. There was one play in overtime where he threw

a long pass to Evans, which of course he sailed a little too long like he did the entire game. And it felt like Evans could have dove for it, and Evans just kind of stopped. And it was like, what are you guys, what are you doing? This is a close game. Like, why didn't you lay off for that? Also, they're just giving you the game.

They really are. They're like, first of all, they're a disaster. There was a skunk in the stadium in the beginning, right? And there were tire tracks that vandalized the field. It's like Biff's World in Back to the Future. Just get in and get out. They're giving you the win. They're done.

And now they're giving Watson a losing team. And somehow they pulled it out because Tampa... And you didn't really... I mean, the coaching... I think that was the worst coaching. Well, I want to get to the coaching. Yeah, the coaching. The Bulls-Leftwich combo is really something. And every time they cut the Bulls,

he looks like he's watching his car get towed. I haven't seen him do anything on the sidelines. If you search Leftwich on Twitter during these games, the Bucs fans are having a stroke about how predictable the play calling is and the sequencing. It's really bad. I think Brady threw for five yards per pass attempt today.

They ran the ball pretty well. They were 20 for 96, but the Browns had more first downs. And I don't think that's a division champion. And I'm going to look at it the other way, Sal. I don't know who's going to win that division, but I think it's setting us up. Remember that year when the NFC West was horrible

and Seattle was a round one home underdog against New Orleans? They were like nine point underdogs at home and we're like, oh my God, this is the stupidest thing ever. And then Seattle wins. Oh, really? We're getting set up for one of the great

nobody believes in us round one nfc south a home game where somebody's six point underdogs i that's why i feel this is going and i'm looking at i'm looking at i hope not because my team's the five seed so i really hope not well you tell me who you like tampa's five and six atlanta's five and seven new orleans is four and eight dennis allen i think is is officially reviled by the saints fan base now and then carolina six. Atlanta's five and seven. New Orleans is four and eight. Dennis Allen, I think is officially reviled by the Saints fan base now. And then Carolina's four and eight. Out of those four teams,

who's playing the best right now? You might actually say Carolina. Yeah, sure. But it might be different in three weeks. Yeah, it might be different. I don't know. Something weird is going to happen out of that. But whoever wins that stupid division might end up playing your team in round one yes

that's why we're gonna let's just hope for that and then I'll pick a new team I'll pick a new favorite team if the Cowboys lose to this Bucs squad again well that would be what it

with the that's it that would be what Fox would want yeah I have my season from hell rankings for you. I'm going to give you my top four. Tampa ranked third. Tampa had the Brady soap opera all year. They had the

bizarre coaching thing where Bruce Arians decides at the end of March he's just going to move up in the front office. They've had injuries galore. Their body language is bizarre. They were talking on the broadcast today where somebody was like, when we got that game-winning touchdown against the Rams, it was Cameron Brait was telling the announcers, when we got that touchdown

against the Rams, you just felt like that was a pivotal moment for our season. It's like, A, the Rams suck. B, you're about to lose to the Browns in OT. So I have them third. I have Arizona fourth. They're four and eight to have this Kyler Murray contract that I'm guessing they would probably do over. They're on Hard Knocks. My son and I watched the

last Hard Knocks. Are you watching them on Hard Knocks? I haven't watched. How many have I missed? Have I missed three already now? Yeah, it's pretty good. I'll tell you this. I don't have a lot of faith in Cliff Kingsbury after the Hard Knocks episodes I've watched. I don't really see a future for him as an NFL coach. It's really rough.

He seems like a good hang, but it's this last episode, pretty rough. Anyway, I have them fourth. Number two, the three and eight Rams, who I think now are the second worst team in the league. Houston's worst, they're second worst? Or would you have Denver? I don't know. I mean, I had your Panthers last

week, so I'm not sure. Second worst, Denver, because they can't score 20 points. Did you see that stat? They have the lowest points per game in like 20 years. Oh, yeah. That's your number one? No, Denver's my number one or the Packers?

No, Denver's my number one. The Rams, no first round pick. It's going to Detroit. Stafford looks like he's broken down now. Right. Denver, no pick either. Oh, you got to replace the Packers. Trade with Tampa Bay. Trade the Bays there because Tampa's in first place and this is still exactly what Brady wanted. He knew it.

Yeah, you're right. Green Bay did have a... Yeah, so I'll put Tampa fifth. You're right. Green Bay should be third. The Rams, the other thing with the Rams, they're getting crushed in these games now. I'm going to be really interested to see what happens with the Rams quote-unquote fans in the season

ticket stuff next year and stuff like that because this is right around the renewal time, right? It's like, oh, do you want to renew your Rams tickets? And you're thinking, well, wait a second. They're 3-8. Matthew Stafford is basically a zombie at this point. They have no first-round pick. Their cap is in hell.

Every time I go to a game, it's 70% fans of the other teams. You know what? I think I'm not going to renew my tickets. I tried to sell six of the tickets already this year. Even when they were good, I tried to sell them and couldn't get anything for them. My dog walker went to three games.

Yeah. My gardener went to two. Fox Network doesn't even believe in them. They did a big Thanksgiving campaign for the Rams Chiefs and didn't mention the Rams once. Greg Olson and Aaron Andrews in a huddle talking about this game. And it was just about how great Patrick Mahomes was.

Yeah, that was it. Yeah, that should be a good indication. So I have them too. I think the clear number one is Denver. Denver is three and nine. They have no pick. Their best player, Javante Williams, tore his ACL. Their coach sucks.

They have to, they're going to have to fire him and get another coach, right? He's, he was one of the worst coaching hires we've had in a while. And the Wilson trade is one of the worst trades,

not only, not only in recent football history, it's one of the worst trades in the 21st century in sports. Like that guy looks like he's forgotten. It's like Darren Williams when he started to get bad near the end with the Nets

but worse. And I asked my buddy Gus, you know Gus Ramsey, diehard Denver fan. I'm like, is this the worst Broncos season ever? It has to be, right? And he said it was either this one or the second McDaniels season when they fired McDaniels midway through. The difference is

they don't have a pick this year. They don't have an out with Wilson until after 2026. They can't even cut him. They can't do anything. Yeah, it's bad. I think this is rock bottom. They don't want to fly with them. They're yelling at him on the sidelines.

Everybody's, you know, they get it with Russell Wilson already, and he can't throw the football. And this coach is a disaster too. You're right. I mean, it's all come together with them and the no pick. Yeah, they're number one, no question. Gus was saying how bad they were.

I went and looked at their pro football because he was like, the AFL, they were bad the whole time. I went back and looked. They never even made the playoffs in the AFL. And they didn't really, when they made the Super Bowl and lost to your guys in 77,

that was kind of their first moment. But then after that, they were relevant pretty much all the way through. They would have like a couple off years, but then they have Elway basically for 16 years. Going to the 2000s, they kept having these little mini runs.

They ended up winning another Super Bowl in 2013. But for the most part, they were always relevant or they always had something going. This is the first time you can look at them and go, you guys have nothing going. You're in a division

with Herbert and Mahomes. You're just fucked for the next five, six years. You have no first round pick. You have new owners that they have to be like, holy shit, did we buy a lemon? I mean, I know they just want to get in the league,

but you can't think of a, this would be the number one worst team you'd probably want to buy from a talent standpoint. But so anyway, they have to be number one. So we can agree on that. I'm not sure, we agree. And I don't know, I could see Elway bowing out soon. I mean, how many quarterbacks is he going to go through, right?

If this didn't work, and like you said, it's going to be another six or seven years probably before they can get back on the map somehow. It's crazy. They've been relevant pretty much our entire life since we've been following football in the mid-70s. And they're not going to be relevant for a long, long time. So one other subplot I had for you.

We had two teams go for two and the win. And they got it. And both times in the moment, I felt like it was the right move. Sometimes I don't. Yeah, I did too. But in the moment, especially Jacksonville,

like they had momentum. There was something happening. It was like, yeah, go for it. You don't want to face like Tucker, like just go for the kill. The Chargers one was a little different just because they don't really have like, you know,

Eckers tiny. But that Arizona defense, it just seems like they were moving the ball on them that whole last drive. And I was like, yeah, fuck it. Why not? Well, I was down for both. And you always have momentum, right? So that's the big plus in your decision to go for two.

You want to consider analytics and everything else, 62%, 44%. Depends on the horses. If your top running back is injured, of course it's different to go for it than if he's healthy. If you have Derrick Henry or whatever. But yeah, I thought that was great.

I mean, it really just strikes down the field for Trevor Lawrence. Just everything everything one after the other. Then a great catch by Marvin Jones, keeping his feet in. And then Zay Jones who had a ton of catches. But I thought, I have to say the director of that game should win an Emmy for the way they covered the Justin Tucker field goal attempt because they framed out the end zone. And all you saw was the ball rising and rising and rising oh my god this is going to make it from 79 yards who cares and then and then you

widen out and it's like oh yeah no it was short it was about four yards short but that was a great great moment um but kudos to uh the directing uh for cbs i guess it was right totally agree great point and we have vince mcbain to thank for that because if it wasn't the xfl with the cameras on the field yeah you never had that cool shot of i mean maybe they would have come up with it i don't know but the uh the baltimore one they've blown three double digit fourth quarter leads this year which is tied for the record i think all four of their losses are double digit right oh maybe it's four yeah that's but maybe fourth quarter is a different yeah no they had a doubleit lead in all four losses.

In the four second halves, but in three were the fourth quarter. Mm-hmm. Lamar is the second worst deep passer in 2022 other than Zach Wilson, percentage-wise. Which seems like it shouldn't matter if they have the double-digit lead in the fourth quarter. Right. They've had pretty good schedule luck

with who they played. The only good quarterbacks they've gone against, Burrow, Tua, and Josh Allen. This is in like 12 weeks. And then you go the rest of the way, they have Denver next week, Russell Wilson, at Kenny Pickett,

at Deshaun, Mariota, home for Pickett, and Burrow. So they only have two more quarterbacks coming. Right. I wonder, because this was such a big day for Cincy too, Tucker missing that 67 yarder. I wonder if we'll like foul that one away. Remember kind of that switch, right? Cincinnati going into Tennessee, really impressive dogfight of a win. Tennessee's been winning those games all year and the Bengals end up winning it without

Chase. And then Tucker, listen, I thought that was going in. Now, even before the camera angle, I was like, oh, it's Justin Tucker, 67, no problem. And you forget like he's not superhuman. But I do wonder if that was a little bit of a division flip. Well, they definitely rely on him too much, whether it's before a half or whether it's on fourth and three instead of going for it. You know, maybe it's because he can't throw downfield Lamar Jackson, but it does.

I was joking with my, I don't know what text chain it was, but I was saying Justin Tucker, they should go in as a team, Tucker and Lamar and ask for money because Because one can't do it without the other. And then Lamar, I don't know if you saw him on Twitter, he lashed out at a civilian. I was like, oh boy, this could have been me. Oh, no. Imagine that guy. Yeah.

The guy basically said the same thing. Like, how can we pay him this money? Oh, he does his blow leads. And Lamar went crazy. And I mean, you really must feel like you hit the lottery if you're the one he responds to. But yeah, I was going to ask, and I think I know must feel like you hit the lottery if you're the one he responds to but yeah I was going to ask and I think I know what your answer is but the Ravens are minus 230 to win their division

the Bills are minus 230 to win their division which ticket would you rather be holding? Those are the odds right now? Right now, yep Why is the Miami favorite to win the AFCs? Jesus Because they have one game at Buffalo. Is that it?

Okay. All right. So you would say Baltimore then, I guess. Here's the problem. The problem with Cincinnati is their schedule. So they have Casey this week, home. Cleveland with Deshaun. At Tampa, which is probably the easiest game of all

these games I'm going to give you. At New England. Buffalo. Baltimore. All teams are going to need to win. If they get out of that 4-2, they go 11-6. I'd be delighted because that was my biggest offseason bet was Cincinnati

over. I think it was 9.5. That feels like 3-3. Now Chase offseason bet with Cincinnati over. I think it was 9.5. But that feels like 3-3. Now Chase comes back, but if they can get 4-2 out of that and finish 11-6, I don't think Baltimore can get to

11-6. Yeah, you might be right. I mean, I don't know. I have not seen a definitive Ravens game yet, right? Like, oh yeah, that's the Ravens. Like, they're either just hold on or they blow a two-touchdown lead. Yeah. So,

just try to win, Ravens. Well, you figure they'll split the Pittsburgh games. They'll probably lose at Cleveland, Baltimore. And then it'll all come down to Cincinnati, right? Yeah, there's always a weird Pittsburgh. Always a weird North game in there. 6.7 point favorite at home, loses.

Yeah. God, Russell Wilson. $31.2 million in dead cap money in 26 if they waive him. So you have to slog through this deal for another four years and then waiting at the finish line is 31.2 million in dead cap. We're back to Russell Wilson. I don't remember another football star doing a 180 like this. This was a guy two years ago. We had to have the obligatory, why hasn't he ever won the MVP conversation? And you and I would debunk it and be like, okay,

point us the year we should have won it. Let go through all the years let's go let's take a stat so and we'd have to do that every year now it's like this guy's the kind of semi-reviled well first of all let's let's maybe wait because the browns might say hold my beer in terms of worst um contracts ever for a quarterback oh my god in terms of 1a so let's just say that really could be the worst in many different ways. By the way, the MVP vote used to be they're changing it this year. I don't know if you know this. It used to be just one vote. You get one vote, you vote for one player.

Now you vote for first, second, third, fourth, and fifth, I think. And they do points? Yeah, so it's points. Oh, that's smart. 5-3-2-1, something like that. It's like basketball. Right, exactly. I think it's exactly like basketball. So you'll see a Russell Wilson, you'll never see him again,

but you'll see someone like that will at least get votes at some point. Yeah. Let's take a break. We'll do Guest Alliance Week 13. What does possible sound like for your business? It's the ability to reach further with access to over 1400 lounges worldwide. Redefine possible with Business Platinum. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms and conditions apply.

Visit amex.ca slash business platinum. Before we do Guess the Lines, here would be the playoff matchups. We're going to start. This is fun. It's after Thanksgiving. This is where we do the playoff matchups every week. It's going to be 2-7 Miami Jets.

3-6 Cincinnati at Tennessee. And Cincinnati now has a little, we kind of own you guys a little bit now. And then the 4-5 would be Buffalo at Baltimore. That'd be pretty. We had that a couple of years ago,

right? In the snow. It was like a Saturday game. That's a good one. Then in the NFC, we have Minnesota against Washington, against Washington. We have San Francisco, Minnesota. Against Washington. Against Washington.

We have San Francisco against the Giants. That's not going to last. And then Tampa Bay hosting Dallas. Dallas. Yeah.

Better not lose that game. So the Giants are going to be the one that's not going to, the Giants aren't going to make the playoffs. Well, so who gets, so Seattle gets in instead of the Giants? That the one that's not going to, the Giants aren't going to make the playoffs. Well, so who gets, so Seattle gets in instead of the Giants? That's your pick? I think so.

I will say their defense is bad. Today was the day, I know they have speed and they had a great draft on that stuff, but I don't know what the pass rush stats

were with them today, but they had no pass rush. Carr has never had more fun, I don't think, in an NFL game. And Jacobs, I felt like the right team won that game because Seattle's defense couldn't do anything. And he threw a pick early, Carr. And he got hurt.

I think he came out for a little bit. It looked like it was going to be a typical Seattle 2022 beatdown. But yeah, the Raiders are so weird. What are they, 4-7? It really could be 7-4. Such a stupid team. That team I backed. Yeah, they Raiders are so weird. What are they, 4-7? It really could be 7-4. Such a stupid team, that team I backed. Yeah, they're staying away.

I didn't even bet that game. You know how much I like betting on Seattle. I'm staying away from that. I don't trust the Raiders. I don't know what to make of them. Good call. Week 13. What are our records?

I don't know. I think I'm up or you're up. I'm not something that's close. That's not what it is. You're up. You have six wins. I have two'm up or you're up. I'm not sure. That's not what it is. You have six wins. I have two wins. There are four ties. Thursday night, Bills at New England.

The Pats in a really weird spot in the city of Boston right now because the Celtics are the best team in the NBA at least regular season. I'm not saying that's going to last, but they've been the best team. The Bruins have been the best team in the NBA, at least regular season. I'm not saying that's going to last, but they've been the best team. The Bruins have been the best team in the NHL by far. And they're just kicking ass.

And my dad was saying, that's all anyone's talking about. And then you have the Pats who just fuck up every week or barely win or whatever. People, obviously, there's a lot of Pats DNA, but they lose this one.

I think the jig is up. It's curtains. Six and six would do it in, huh? It's a must win. I think it's a must win. It is. Who would you say was the seven seed? It would be them or the Chargers right now.

Wait. Oh, no. I'm sorry. No, no. The Jets have the seven seed. Yeah, well, they're going away. Yeah, they have to go away. Yeah, Jets have the seven seed.

So I would say the Jets. Oh, we didn't even talk about the Jets. Well, they're a game ahead of you, but you have. But we beat them twice. Right, you beat them twice. But they were able to run an offense today that included completions to open receivers. So that was a new wrinkle for them.

But Mike White was good in that game. He was good. Your defense wasn't good. I was all over you and Hanch. I'm like, I don't care who's in there. You have Mike White laying seven and a half points. And then, of course, they crushed them. 31-10. Yeah, that was... I mean, the Trevor Simeon and a cast of nobodies.

That was a pretty tough spot. Pouring rain. Right. Right. I have the Bills favored by three in New England. Oh, all right. I had six. It's five and a half. I'm on the board.

Listen, that's too high. No, it's not. That's too high. That's too high. You just, you got exposed a little bit, a That's too high. You got exposed a little bit. A little bit. You're out of line a little bit. A little bit.

I mean, right? If Josh Allen has a decent game, he should put up numbers similar to Kirk Cousins. So I'm supposed to wait for my memory what I watched from Josh Allen in that Detroit game when they really should have... That's the thing. Yeah. They should have lost,

except Dan Campbell was the coach of the other team with some of the worst two-minute stuff we've seen in a while. Right. Yikes. And is this played in Detroit, this game? The Bills play all the games in Detroit now, right? Yeah, they're moving to Detroit.

I think that line's too high. I think this should be a three-point line because I don't think Allen is 100%. Okay. And I don't think I'm breaking news by saying that. His throws were all over the place. He looks miserable. He looks unhappy.

You haven't played them yet, right? That's the last game of the year? We haven't played them yet. Right. Okay. And by the way, a lot of what they did with this defense was to try to make up for the fact

that he destroyed them with his legs. But look at what's happened. Lamar, Justin Fields destroyed the Pats this year with their legs. So maybe that's why the line is that high. I just don't like, I don't think the Bills are playing that well. No, they're not. They didn't play great. But the thing is, they can't sit back, right?

They can't afford to lose a game, which you thought them in this point, they'd be 9-10-1 or something. Maybe you can catch them off. Surprise them. But them in this point, they'd be 10-1 or something. Maybe you can catch them off. Well, surprising. I can't imagine Belichick's been an underdog by that much in a home night game since he showed up. I bet that might be the highest number. Also, they've lost. How many prime times have you had now?

You had the Thanksgiving. You had the game against the Bears. Did you have another one? That's it. It's the third one. Oh, man. Maybe you're right. He can't get embarrassed three times, can he? He might not care.

Every time they show his son on the sideline, I get bummed out. That guy's fun. He's good. Sunday marquee. This is an awesome game. Miami at San Francisco. Yeah, there's some good late afternoon games. I thought the games, I have five watchables plus this game, plus the night games.

Really good matchups this week. So I have the 49ers favored by three over Miami. You get it. I said two and a half. It's four. I don't know. I thought they'd go. I thought they were in love with Miami,

the odds makers. I really did. Not a lot of respect. No, they're big. They're big on the Niners. I guess I should have known. What were the Niners like this week? They're eight and a half against New Orleans and they're a bunch against the Cardinals. Both went way low on that two weeks ago. And FYI,

you watched that game, right? They should have covered that nine against the Saints. The Saints were idiots in that game. Fumbles at the goal line. Just really stupid. Oh my God. I guess it really is Andy Dalton. I guess it is. Is that the most underreported story of the year? Why Jameis isn't

suiting up? Why isn't he suiting up? He's healthy. And no one questions the quarterback and Dalton keeps losing. I guess they won. Did they win last week? Yeah, they won.

They beat that. Yeah. You would think after zero points, maybe it's time for a change. Yeah. Who did they beat? They have, I'm looking at that one game where they killed Vegas.

Oh, that was 24, nothing. All right. But that's gotta be like one out of five weeks. I think that line's a point too high. Not enough respect for Miami. They're too dangerous.

That's a fun game. The cheap touchdown for them? Yeah. Are you ready for Mike McDaniel? He used to work for the 49ers stories all week. Oh, yeah. That's never going to end. He might just deny it.

Mike, I know it's difficult for Kyle Shanahan. He's worked so closely with Mike McDaniel. Now he's going against him. Yeah, it's difficult, Mike. It is. I get goosebumps thinking about it. I don't know why I have nothing to do with any of it. Five watchables.

Oh, I tweeted tonight about the NBC Sunday night it's on my Twitter feed if people want to watch they just they're undeterred just doing it every week where Maria just turns to Tony Dungy he says a quick three sentence three word sentence and then she just awkwardly turns to Jason Garrett and today what was the sentence

I don't know it was it was the and the I don't know. It was... Oh, it was the... And the Bengals shut down King Henry. Or something like that, right? Yeah, that was... By the way, get your hands out of your pockets, Jason Garrett. You smug fraud.

Enough. Enough. How about when he did the Thursday game? He did my team and he's criticizing Belichick a couple of different times during the game. I was like, are you kidding me? You're Jason Garrett. He just ruins every Thanksgiving for me. It doesn't matter whether he's what part of the TV. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Do you think they'd let us, I mean, we've spoken so fondly about it. I don't see why they wouldn't. Could we write that eight second

promo for them? Would they let us do it? I mean, DirecTV let us pick the Sunday ticket the way the games were laid out a couple weeks, right? Something's got to give. At least give them 15 seconds so that it can seem like some semblance

of a human interaction. Yeah. Brady blows it in Cleveland and King Henry is bottled up when we return. Oh my God, that's magical.

Of course, we're going to tune in for that. Who wouldn't come back for that? We should write it where it's like, Russell Wilson sucks again. But not as bad as I did when I coached

the Cowboys into a terrifying situation for all their fans. Oh, my God. I'm going to kill Simmons here. I'm not allowed to laugh. I'm really going to die. This could be my last podcast. All right.

It'll be fine. I'm creating a new form of COVID. I'm creating COVID-6. The watchables. We have five. This first one, White Lotus creator, Mike White, is taking his talents to Minnesota to battle Kirk Cousins.

And I think this is going to be Vikings by three and a half. Come on. I went, I said seven. And it should be seven. This is Mike White going on the road against a nine and two team. But you're right. It's three. So you're closer.

What is going on here with these Vikings? I know I can't at one breath say they're bad, they're overrated, they're fraudulent, they have a negative point differential, all this stuff, and then say the line should be seven. But it's still the Jets going in there. Am I undervaluing this Jets team with Mike White? I think you are because I think the Jets receivers are good. Sure. I really think

Garrett Wilson is excellent. I like Conklin. Finally, Elijah Moore, they got going. And then who's the other one? Davis? Well, Braxton Barrios is in there somewhere, right? With the returns and everything. Their guys are open. They've been open all season.

I just want to take it as you will, Jets fans all season. They just... Okay, but can we just... I just want... Take it as you will, Jets fans. You need to calm down a little bit. See, because if we manage expectations in life, then we won't be as hysterical when things don't go our way, right? So Mike White had one and a half good games last year and then lost 90 to 47 to Indianapolis and Buffalo.

This is mean. This is mean what you're doing. He can't account for the 90. But yeah, he was out of both of those games. Why would you be mean to Chester? Six interceptions. I'm managing expectations. You don't think they're making the play. Oh, you had them as a seven?

No, you don't think they're getting in. I think they're pretty good. I don't know if there's a difference between them and the Pats and the Chargers. One of those teams has to make it. I don't know if there's a difference between them and the Pats and the Chargers. One of those teams has to make it. I don't know. That certainly would be the most fun story out of the three, right?

My team's not doing jack shit in the playoffs. The Chargers are a mess. They'll get it. Even if they got in, they'd screw up in round one. At least it'd be fun to have the Jets in the playoffs. I'm just talking holistically as a football fan. I know the Jets fans feel like. I'm just talking holistically as a football fan. I know the Jets fans

feel like Zach cost them at least two games. Like that they really honestly could be nine and two. And I think that's fair. Like he definitely cost them one of the past games. Well, weren't they five and two with him?

They weren't terrible with him. They only lost to the Patriots. But the only good moment he had was that one Steelers game where they come from behind whatever, right? So even if you give him that, he had like two or three that he just sunk them. I got to say the worst moment he had was in the press conference.

I think he still has his job if he answers that question correctly. I know. I like when he apologized to the whole team three days later, though. Yeah, right. Guys, upon further review. Man, did I handle that wrong. My bad. Thanks, man.

Mike White's still starting. Yeah. We have the USFL for you. Washington is at the Giants. And I think Washington has to be favored in this game because of how the Giants are playing. And because Washington is a pretty good team and it doesn't seem to matter where they play.

And I'm going to go Washington by one and a half. All right. Well, you're cheating. I mean, you're sick. Why am I cheating? Maybe because you're dying. This is your last podcast. You're sick because it's exactly one and a half.

And the Giants are home, and they're seven and four. And you're telling me Washington's favorite. The Giants stink. I had the Giants one and a half. Even the Giants fans know they stink. They should have lost to Houston. They should have lost to Houston. They deserve to lose this week.

They were taking every three downs. There was a player coming off the field. I do respect what they did defensively because they were getting to the quarterback. Their secondary sucks. Any tight end should be able to get open against them the rest of the way if this keeps up. But I do respect how they

stayed in there with the pass rush and everything else. Yeah, when I say the Giants stink, they stink because they've had more injuries than just about anybody in the league. And I don't think they had a ton of talent to begin with. They also put a ton of miles on Barkley, which I'm not sure is sustainable. Is this a watchable?

I think you missed a key watchable. No, I have three more watchables, but I just think Washington Giants is a watchable? I think you missed a key watchable are you done with them? No I have three more watchables but I just think Washington Giants is a watchable because it's like it's not an official loser leaves town match but it's like a two part loser leaves town match when you throw in the game in two weeks right? Washington beats them twice they're in the playoffs right yes next one I have is Eagles Titans in Philly

Titans coming off a loss. I wish I had thought of this when I bet the Titans today, which was one of my losses today. I think I was positive. I was positive today, but the two I lost on were Titans and Bucs. I had the Titans too. I really liked them today. Here's the thing.

That game meant so much more to the Bengals than the Titans. The Titans had like a three-game lead in the AFC South, right? So it meant a lot to their home. I just thought, and I know you thought. Bengals had to have that game. It's going to be revenge from the playoffs. They sack Burrow nine times and still didn't get the W. I thought that

had to be something. Something. I thought the Bengals were better. Yep. Eagles, I have by six over the Titans. I can't gain one on you. I had six also. It's six and a half. Boy, is that a tease.

Yeah. You know, I'm not sure what this kid Burks is on the Titans, but he's something. That's the only way he was going to score a touchdown. It's as if King Henry, even though he was going to score a touchdown is if King Henry even though he was bottled up fumbled through the end zone there well he had like a long

basically like a Devonta Parker on acid play where he just like 45 yards down the field jumped up and got it there's something there he's not consistent he doesn't have the but he touches the ball what four times a game but there's some sort of athletic's not consistent. He doesn't have the, but he touches the ball, what, four times a game, but there's some sort of athleticism with him

that stands out. And I wonder, like, as the season goes along, are they going to start tapping into that more? Because he's clearly, other than Henry, their guy that

Oh, yeah. tilt the game a little bit for them. Yeah, they made that A.J. Brown trade thinking that Burks was going to be, you know,

cover at least 80% of what A.J. Brown did. I mean, he's not there yet, but. No, and made that A.J. Brown trade thinking that Burks was going to be, you know, cover at least 80% of what A.J. Brown did. I mean, he's not there yet, but... No, and he got hurt. I get it. Next one. Two more watchables. What a week next week.

Bengals home for the Chiefs. Talk about rematches. Mm-hmm. I think the Bengals are going to be favored in this game. And I might be wrong, but I have the Bengals by one.

All right. I got this exactly. KC by three. Everybody's on KC now. I mean, they're nine and two, and people are just betting them. They don't cover at home hardly ever, but this is kind of the game. You can't make sense

of the favorite. Everyone's going to bet Casey in this situation. We'll definitely have Chase next week. Right? Is he back for sure? Yeah.

This is a total eye test thing. I have nothing to back it up with. No stats. Just like me watching football on my couch every Sunday. Burrow's got a little something, something again, like he had last year. There's a swagger with him again that, you know, betting against him today,

I really felt like I was fucked in the fourth quarter. Like the way he was carrying something was like, God damn it. This guy's going to come down and score. Right. And I think, I think this Chiefs game, I think, you know, I still feel like he's under the radar when we talk about

the great quarterbacks. Like even Herbert is mentioned way more than Burrow is, even though Burrow got to the Super Bowl last year. Yeah.

Then now Hurts and Tua and Bengals are 7-4. They're right there. And he's as good as all of these guys. And he's fucking tough. He takes huge

hits. Delivers the ball. I really trust him. He's as good as all of them except Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, except Patrick Mahomes. But you might be right. They might even need this game more because I'm looking at the Chiefs schedule. They weathered the storm. After the Bengals, they're at the Broncos,

at the Texans, home for the Seahawks, home for the Broncos, and then at the Raiders for the Seahawks, home for the Broncos, and then at the Raiders. Who knows if they even field the team by then, what that looks like in the last game of the year. So, yeah. In terms of if they need this, no. The schedule looks pretty light the rest of the way.

I like that it's in Cincy. I'd love to see that get to three and a half. That'd be great last one I think this is a watchable just because these two teams are fucking batshit crazy drunks the Raiders and the Chargers in Las Vegas

it's always good there's just no way this game doesn't come down in the final two minutes with something weird happening this has to be a watchable I have this as a pick-em I know that that's pick-em. I know

that that's never the case, but I couldn't decide who should be the favorite, so I just went right down the middle. I had Chargers by one and a half. It's Chargers by two and a half. They're backing off the Raiders a little, Vegas is. They played this right. It was a good game,

right? 24-19? I think it was week two. It's always fun. Well, they played this, right? It was a good game, right? 24-19. I think it was week two. Yeah. It's always fun. You know, the no Mike Williams thing, when does he come back? Is he going to be back for this game? He was back. He was back last week, right?

And then he got hurt again. I know. But so, do you think he plays next week? I don't know. I don't know. He really is. He's good. I'm with you Burrow

I like him better than Herbert but Herbert reminded me of like Marino today just the side slinging bullets you know just like I love Herbert I don't like one more than the other

I love both of them I just think Burrow should be in the conversation no you gotta choose you have to choose what do you think this is you have to pick a side Herbert does this crazy

Mahomes has this too, I guess, but Herbert it's like Marino if Marino could move kind of. Yeah. Where he'll slither out of these spots, he'll go to the left and he'll be able to throw it side-armed. Right. It just feels like the field is always open no matter which way he's going.

I'm in on him too, but yeah, I wish they could stay healthy for like three weeks. Our friend Alec was saying, it was like watching the Chargers play the Chargers today. Arizona. It really was. Like, oh, whichever side you're on, you're going to lose here. Yeah, but that's the thing.

If you bet on the Cardinals, you deserved it because that's what you get if you bet on the Cardinals. Just really dumb shit. Yeah. Fourth and ones in your own territory in the second quarter, all that stuff. All right, fairly watchables this you could argue

from an entertainment standpoint could be in the watchables Lions Jaguars in Detroit I just don't know the Jags every once in a while would just not be fun to watch

it's in Detroit I have the Lions favored by two and a half see this is dumb I said three and a half it's a pick-em. The Jags are such garbage on the road. The Lions, in my mind, the Lions won that Bills game

or should have won that game or were in that game. And I don't know. I know we get excited about teams that excite us but don't necessarily come away with a W. But for God's sakes, come on. The Lions should be favored. They should. I don't trust the Jags on. The Lions should be favored. They should. I don't trust the Jags on the road at all.

Both four and seven. So give the home team, the Lions, with the raucous crowd, an advantage here. I forgot. I looked up because we had the two two-points that won a game. What year do you think was the first time that ever happened? When somebody was down one after a touchdown and went for two to win it? What year? Yeah, we've only had the two-point rule since the late 90s.

Did you give me the answer? 1998? Nope. It was 2002. It was Dante Culpepper against the New Orleans Saints. They scored. Mike Tice held up the two fingers. You can find it. It's on YouTube. Mike Tice held up the two fingers.

You can find it. It's on YouTube. Mike Tice holds up the two fingers. Culpepper and Shotgun fumbles the snap and then picks it up and QB draws it and scores. It's the first time anyone ever won that way. There's no way I didn't lose money on that. There's just no way.

As you're saying the words, Mike Tice put two fingers up. One of them went to my keyster and the other one went to the right forward. I was thinking we knew each other at that point too. And we,

we probably, that was one of the first games we probably bet on. It was like week 15 in 2002. Yeah. So we probably did bet on that one. I was living here at that point. There's this YouTube clip

that's like eight minutes long of like the greatest two point conversions of the last 20 years. It was a memory lane. I think I lost on probably 90% of them, but like Kaepernick

against the Rams, that was one. There's a whole bunch of them. Well, the Seattle Green Bay playoff game was the best, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. There was one this year

where who was the quarterback? Was it Murray that backtracked like 20 yards and completed it? Yeah. But Murray just, he, he intentionally made it the fourth and seven so he could get it right. Um, next fairly watchable Falcons Steelers in Atlanta. I have this just cause, um, I don't mind watching these two teams. And I think the Steelers are going to beat the Colts tomorrow night. But I have the Falcons at home favored by three and a half. Yeah, I'm going to get this.

I said two and a half. Only one and a half. Oh. Very weird. And they haven't even played yet. Last one is Browns at Houston. This is it. Sean's comeback.

Houston's terrible, but this is Deshaun's comeback. And however you feel about it, it's at least going to be compelling to see him out there in a Browns uniform.

Sure. I have the Browns favored by seven in Houston. Bastard. You get it. It's six and a half. I said five and a half. I love these people that

raving about Jacoby Brissett. I mean, this guy deserves to be a starting QB. It's like, yeah, technically, we have like 10 terrible starting QBs, but if he's your starting QB, you're still probably going to go four and seven, which is what their record was. Yeah.

You're going to score 17 points a game. Right. Yeah. Where he's your starting quarterback. It's feast or famine with him. Yeah. You're going to get five yards of pass. You're going to be good on QB sneaks.

You're going to have one or two terrible turnovers a game. I like him, but he's in that tweener. He's like where Tyrod Taylor was a couple years ago. It's like he's your actual starter. Not great, but if he's coming in as the backup, that's great. Top three backup, I would say. Poop Fecta, three games.

Packers at Bears. This could be Jordan Love against Trevor Simeon. Well, what did we do with this? I mean, I guessed, and they have a line on it. I think we scrap it for our contest. Okay, we can. What would you... I mean, I guessed, and they have a line on it because... I think we scrap it for our contest. Okay, we can. What would you... I mean, I said plus four.

It didn't matter. Yeah, I would have said Packers by three. All right. We'll scrap it. But yeah, I don't know. I'd be... So you think it's Rodgers because they have a buy after that? No, I think Love plays next week.

Oh, you do? Okay. I do too. Love Peterman will be great. By the way, the best thing they could do now is have Love come in and play well for a couple weeks

and then try to trade him, right? Like, how many teams need a quarterback? Sure, yeah. You're stuck with Rodgers anyway. He's the quarterback next to Beers. I think they tried to trade him,

but you're exactly right. Yeah. They're like, well, we don't even know what we're seeing here. Ravens are home for the Broncos. It's crazy that this line is going to be in double digits from what we've seen from the Ravens,

but I think it has to be, and I'm going to go Ravens by 11. I said 11 and a half, and it's seven and a half. And that is, that's the screwiest line of the month. I think. Wow.

That feels fixed. Come on. Denver doesn't score points. I know Baltimore blows everything. Can we tease that? I'd feel comfortable teasing that one. The Broncos are done. They're not winning another game.

Philly and Baltimore, that's our teaser so far. Great. Well, how about the Seahawks are coming up next against that stupid Rams team. That Rams team isn't going to win again. I mean, they were looking. The Chiefs were dying to give away the cover today. They're like, please, Perkins, the guy who's wearing four gloves.

One was like an Isotona glove. The other was like an oven mitt. Just stop throwing terrible interceptions. We'll give you the cover. But they just couldn't do it. 26-10. Poor Perkins. We'll give you the cover, but they just couldn't do it. 26-10. Poor Perkins.

He was like a amalgam of 20 different terrible quarterbacks we've seen in that spot. He's just good enough that your cover was in danger the entire time, but not good enough to actually beat the cover. Seahawks at Rams. So caveat for this game, there would be some Seahawks at Rams. So caveat for this game, there would be some Seahawks fans at this game. Oh, yeah. I'm going to say about 50,000 worth,

including our friend Tall John. Tall John will be there. That goofy freak, he'll be there. He takes up a lot of seats. You think he has to get two seats? I think so. How about the poor person sitting behind tall john he's like six eight i should hope he takes the last row in a section i should hope he should wear like a hat

to make it seem like he's like six nine with like yeah one of those hats that goes higher yeah cowboy hat i mean you think you're kicking a goal post there if it's it must be distracting i think this is seahawks by seven. All right. I got this exactly. And it's four. Oh, that's stupid. That's too low. Come on. They don't love the seal. I mean, they were barely favored over the Raiders, right? Yeah. But this is a home game for them. There'll be more Seahawks. No Rams fan is going to this game. This will be the all time. Do you want my Rams tickets game? Yeah. You don't like Perkins? No. Perkins? Chino Smith? I don't.

They're like the Lakers. They mortgaged everything to win a title and they did. And now the check has come for the dinner. You know, so maybe they should be honest with the fans. Like, look, you gotta pay for this. We got you a title.

Look around. None of your friends have titles. Look at your Cowboy fan friends. Every team that comes here. Exactly. Some of the other teams. Clippers, when was their last title? Yeah, they should do that. We got to pay for this.

It's a reverse insurance. Sunday night, your team playing the stupid Colts. Zombie Matt Ryan ready to just mess with you for four quarters. Mm-hmm. I have the Cowboys by eight. I get it. I said ten and a half. It's nine and a half.

Oh. We could tease that, too. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Did you beat me? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. We're tied. We're going into the last game and I was off by a half a point. I could actually

pull this out. Monday night, Tampa Bay. Home for the New Orleans Saints. I'm putting this game in the Vegas zone. I have the Bucs by four and a half. Well, you should have said five and a half or six.

I said six and a half, and it's six. Good guys win week 13. You beat me. I win. All right. There we go. There we go. So, Jacoby has to go to Qatar for you to win a thing.

There we go. I know. He's out there. Stay there. Don't ever come back, Jacoby. You must be nice. They'll treat you good there. Six, three, and four now You must be nice. They'll treat you good there. 6-3-4 now.

Beautiful. Great. Congratulations. Thank you, man. Thanks. You're teasing the Bucs? No. No, I'm not. But I think the Ravens have to be teased. The Broncos seem like they've hit all-time rock

bottom. The only thing I'm worried about is we both thought that was 11, 11 and a half. Why is that 7? It's not like Lamar's out. I mean, honestly, the Browns getting teased down to a half point against that crappy Texans

team is probably the move, but... Oh, yeah. Houston's not beating anybody again this season. There's some grudge games right there's grudge game New England Buffalo's definitely a grudge game just because it always is Chicago Green Bay is this Cleveland Houston game is going to be

you know Casey Cincinnati is a rematch of the playoffs Vegas always is grudge is the right word for Bill's Pats because the last two times we played them, I think they beat us like 120. Yeah, well, maybe play with pride kind of thing.

I mean, look at the New Orleans game. That was a game they lost 20 to 10 and Brady faked a roughing the quarterback. Not that you could fake it, but right? That game ended because of that call. I'm not betting on the Bucs anymore. They've lost my trust. Let's do Parent Corner.

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Car buying. Reimagined. All right. What do you got? All right. Well, our kids were together this week. I think they were at a Herschel Walker rally or something. I don't know.

But you took a picture. No, you took a picture at your house and you posted it, which is great. And we got all our fans. Wait, let me get in here. And this is on my Instagram. Yeah. So people were delighted to see our kids. They really are.

And by the way, I'm glad you did it because a lot of the posts, a lot of the comments were like, oh man, I feel old. Cause people like, yeah, we grew, we grew up with these kids and now they look so big. I'm like, yeah, this is what we go through all the time. Right. Of course you should feel old. Your son's like 6'3 1⁄2". Archie's gigantic. You should feel old.

Where are you now? So I wanted to read some of the quotes, some of the posts. Go ahead. By the way, good-looking group. So first of all, old- school friendships, all such wonderful people. That's my cousin Mickey. A lot of Ben Simmons. Oh, wow. Is this his first day of note-taking?

I want to see some of the notes. People want to see the notes. Ben was taking notes. People like that story. Yeah. It makes it feel like these kids are my nieces and nephews. Where do I send their Christmas checks? I will gladly give you an address to send it to cover my gambling addiction and stuff. But the best thing for me is all this Harris stuff.

About 25 people refer to Harris, which is my youngest son, Harrison. And the parent corner story from a couple of years ago is that the teacher was making Thanksgiving aprons for all the kids and forgot the N on Harrison's name on the apron. And it came out Harris. So, and then I called him Harris. So for the rest of his life and like, we kind of forgot about it. I haven't called them Harris. So, and then I showed him all these comments. I'm not kidding Simmons. There's like 40 people like Harris. So exclamation Harris. So three exclamation points. Wow. Look at Harris. So Harris. So it looks like a handful and he freaked out again. He's so angry at me. He was angry. He's

mad again. He was mad this time last week about the two hand touch debacle and now same kind of thing with the Harris. So I don't know. We'll get to his Christmas list next week. I want to compare Christmas list between our kids, but there are some stuff on his list that I just I

don't know. I'm thinking about coming clean with him and telling him there's no Santa because he wants some Met jerseys from guys who are double A. I'm like, no, they don't make this jersey. And he's like, yeah, but Santa will. I'm like, ah. Fanatics will. Santa fanatics. Jeez.

And then I just want to tell him. So I think I'm going to tell him. One of the things with Hariso, Archie was saying, nickname from the nickname, so now you call him So-Man. So-Man, yeah. I have songs about So-Man and So-Man and So-This and So-That.

So Hariso is morphed into seven other nicknames. Yeah, it's really good. It's a lot of mental abuse. My Parent Corner is about Hariso. So I hadn't seen him in a little while, it's really good. It's a lot of mental abuse. My Parent Corner is about Harris. I hadn't seen him in a little while, probably like a year. We're all at my wife's mom's house.

He just has that same look that Ben had. That same look in his eye. He was gravitating toward Ben and just wanted to wrestle Ben and collide full speed into Ben, try to punch Ben in the balls, try to pick up Ben. And all he wanted to do, all he wanted was for Ben to just pick him up and throw him in a recliner, which Ben, by the way, was really wanting to do. And I can see the look in my son's eye and I'm like, no, no, this is going to go

badly. Some base is going to get knocked over. Harrison's going to go flying into a television. Because my son's always wanted like the little brother that you could play with. And it never really had it. So he had like, so what I was thinking was I might just bring Ben over like maybe like once a month. Oh, yeah. Just to like, he can beat the shit out of Harrison. Remember like when we had, I used to

when he was younger, I used to get him those UFC dummies. Yes. And he used to do wrestling moves and all that. I think he saw Harrison as like the human version of this. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. And Harrison kind of wants it. He's like, just throw me around like a rag doll. I'm ready. I'll keep coming. All right. Let's do this. I don't know. Let's

do this because we live kind of far from each other, right? So nobody wants to drive like an hour and 10 minutes but let's set up a couch on the side of a road in like uh i don't know culver city whatever the 405 yeah and occasionally we'll meet there and ben can toss them into the cushions or something or maybe no cushions we'll see what happens i think that's a good idea i want do it, and I think we should videotape it. Okay, good. Because... Yeah, I don't know what my son... Harrison's like, you know, again, this is like with the Jets fans.

I want to manage expectations. He thinks he's like such a good baseball player and flag football player and wrestler. I'm like, dude, you're average at all this stuff and probably will be the rest of your life. So I don't know what to tell him. Yeah. So I don't know what to tell them. Yeah. Eight is a great age for this stuff because eight is like, you start to feel like you could take an adult, right?

I remember Ben like would, but that was the first year Ben would be wrestling me and he would start getting mad and feel like he could do moves and they, they just keep coming. They're like Michael Myers. They never get tired of it. And you know, it's going to end up with one of you is getting hurt, probably

the dad. Right. But I was jealous. I was reliving it just through Harrison. He tried to come at me once. Oh, you could have him. He did? Even you? Yeah. I just started coughing. He ran away. That's the new... That's how you do it. Well, I... Look, he's

asking for Danielle Nunez's jersey. These guys I've never even heard of that they don't make. So, um, he's going to learn. He's going to learn the hard way that there's no Santa. Sorry. Hope no kids are listening. I have, uh, one other quick parent corner. My, my dad turned 75 today.

Nice. All right. Talking to my wife about the biggest birthdays after 50 50 is a big one 60 70, 75 when does it go to 5 years? probably at 70

because 65 is not a big birthday right? 70 75 is a big one and then I feel like after 75 every year is a big one after 75, right? How old's your dad now? He is 82.

Yeah. Yeah. So 75 is big 80. And then, yeah, you, I mean, you know, I don't want to get grim here, but yeah, you got to start thinking that they're, they're more important. So I flew him out last week. He'd had a cough for like five days, but he was like, no, no, I'm at the tail end of it. He shows up, he's still coughing and sneezing. And my step-mom sounds like she's like created COVID in a lab.

Like she's just like these deep, awful coughs. And she's like, no, I don't know what's going on. On the plane, I felt the coming and they were sick for four straight days. And it was like having patient X and patient Y with us as we're driving around and doing all this stuff. My stepmother's wearing a mask so she could cough into the mask. It was four days of it. And the whole time I'm like, you guys are going to make me sick. I've had two colds. And needless to say, they left in two days later.

I was sick and I'm still sick. And you can hear it in my voice that I'm probably going to die right after this podcast. Happy birthday, dad. It was great to see you. Happy birthday. Thanks for the Apollo virus. He got you sick. Did you make him feel bad about it? He probably felt terrible. No, I don't think

they felt that bad. Oh, really? I think they were sad to see the grandkids. Okay. That's great. Anyway, that was Parent Corner. Today's Parent Corner is brought to you by CarMax. If you're looking for a ride that won't break your stride or your budget, CarMax can help you find that perfect car for you that raises the bar without raising your budget.

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how have you been doing on the World Cup? Yeah, I did it. I know you're betting all these games. I bet. I'm betting every game I'm awake for. I'm not at the point where I'm waking up for the 2 a.m. kickoff, so whatever they call it.

But my big bet, as I told you, over four and a half nil-nil ties, and I got five. You nailed it. waking up for the 2 a.m uh kickoff so whatever they call it but my big bet as i told you over four and a half nil nil ties and uh i got five that u.s england was number five so i'm happy with that and then uh yeah i like betting it look i gotta tell you like just can soccer purists just calm the fuck down with me and like we were if you're not can you have an opinion on soccer if it's not your favorite sport? I feel like I watch more soccer than people who claim soccer is their favorite sport. I'm betting every

Saturday, I'm betting an EPL game at 7.30 in the morning. It doesn't make me an expert, but I should be able to observe that the penalty kicks are unfair when there's one or two goals a game. It's too easy to score on them for some like, you know, just hand stuff in the box. That could go either way.

The running time is stupid. And there's other stuff, too. But, you know, my football has warts, too. I still don't know what a catch is. The referee is suspect. You could take shots at my football. I'll take shots at your football. Why does everyone get so crazy?

I think that's very fair. I liked how they did the extra time in the world cup though. I thought they were adding extra plus nine. Yeah. It's like an actual. Yeah. But then you don't even know if it's nine or nine 12 or nine 14 or eight 50. Right.

I watched the entire angle game with my two kids, including my son who I don't think he's ever watched a full soccer game before, but really loved it. And I thought it was a riveting sporting event. I loved it. Really? Wow. Oh my God.

I mean, it was for, when you think like how it ended up where it's, it's wasn't like the 40 to 30 Packers Eagles game we had, but I don't know. I felt like we controlled the game. I was just psyched that we played well. And then the coach waited way too long to put the subs in. I don't know what the

fuck he was doing putting Shaq Morin over Yedlin. But for the most part, I really felt like we went toe to toe with them. We just don't have a striker, which is the same story every four years with us. We've just never developed that one guy guy probably because those guys are playing football and basketball and all these other sports. But we don't have that one. You could even feel like with Kane, who's a little older, but he's dangerous all the time. You're always thinking about where is he? And we've just never had that guy. Dempsey's probably the closest, but it's just crazy to me. We haven't come up with that guy.

I have a different view of it. Like, I mean, when was this announced? Like in March, again, for eight months, we were told this is going to be the game. Everyone's going to watch after Thanksgiving. You're going to be hungover on turkey sandwiches. And the punchline is like, yeah, it's probably going to be 0-0. And it ended up 0-0. Like, I don't know. And it ended up 0-0.

Like, I don't know. And neither team was upset, really. I mean, I guess England fans, they showed some of the fans that were upset. And it's like, well, yeah, it sucks, but US still has to beat Iran. Well, what screwed it up

was Iran beating Wales made it so that America, all of a sudden, instead of like, we have to beat England, it turned into this, oh, well, actually, we just need to keep this close. And if we beat Iran, we're great. But that's what- I don't want to be... I want to end on a positive. I'm going to give you a winner here because I've been winning. You asked to score two or more goals,

plus 150. Go get it. Do it. How about if you bet on Wales in that game and their goalkeeper comes out and just kicks the guy right in the head and gets a red card and gets kicked out? That would be a tough one. That would be the equivalent of betting on Tampa today. All right, so you think the U.S. gets two goals, two plus goals? Two or more, yep.

Do it. And I'm sorry, soccer fans. You can hate football and go after Mike White or whoever you want. It's fine with me. I wish they would play Pulisic as a pseudo striker, where it's like you basically play the wide prongs, and he's in the middle,

like kind of how Messi gets used sometimes over putting these strikers in there who aren't going to do anything. That would be my one-nip pick. But again, we're just two guys talking about soccer who we don't have the chops. That's all. It's fine. But again, we're just two guys talking about soccer who we don't have the chops. That's all. It's fine. I want Pulisic in the middle of the field. Do you call him Pulisic or

Pulisic? Pulisic. I don't know what our guy Jason Garrett tried to call him the other day, but that was terrible. It was atrocious. What did he say? I think he tried to make a joke with Pele and Pulisic

and Pele, but he ended up adding four syllables or something. He can't really do anything right. It's not his fault. The problem with Jason Garrett is he's never going to get hired again, so we're just stuck with him on TV. He's just going to torture you. You might have to have him on the podcast. You might have to actually try to get along with him.

You need to flip the relationship. I can't do it. I met him at Romo's house. I turned my back. I wouldn't even talk to him. I said, this guy shouldn't be retired. It's warm for you. I know.

I'm really a petulant little baby when it comes down to it. All right. Cuz, congrats on the big win. I'm probably going to be dead in a couple of days. So House will take over against the Lions, but he'll inherit my six wins. And we'll see how it goes. All right.

Hang in there, buddy. Hang in there. I'll try. This is a great... Three different colds in five weeks. It's a great practical joke by your father. I got to give him a heads up. It's pretty good.

It was his birthday present to me. All right. Good job by you. Good job by you, buddy. All right. That's it for the podcast. Thanks to Cousin Sal. Thanks to Kyle Creighton for producing.

Don't forget, new rewatchables coming on Monday night, planes, trains, and automobiles. I also did the White Lotus episode five on the Prestige TV podcast. That's up. And if you're into the World Cup, please check out our awesome soccer podcast,

which include Stadio, Righty's House, and Counterpress with Flo Lloyd-Hughes and friends, which we just launched. We'll see. Hopefully, Team USA will come through. By Tuesday's pod, we will know what happened in that game,

and I'm sure I'll talk to somebody about it. But go USA. Happy birthday, Dad. I will see you on this feed on Tuesday. On the wayside On the first side of the road Saying I don't have To ever forget