The Bill Simmons Podcast - McCarthy's Gone and Goodell Won't Leave, Plus Super Bowl Sleepers and Week 14 Lines with Cousin Sal | The Bill Simmons Podcast (Ep. 450)

Episode Date: December 3, 2018

HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons talks with Cousin Sal about Mike McCarthy's firing after the Packers' loss to the Cardinals, a puzzlingly close game between the Chiefs and the Raiders, the Kareem Hunt story, NFL Playoffs, and Roger Goodell's lackluster performance as NFL commissioner (2:19 ), before they guess the NFL week 14 lines (51:48). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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about a traumatic week 13. First, our friends from Pearl Jam Alright, the holidays are right around the corner It has not been a holiday for our friend Cousin Sal There was a gambling pummeling this weekend. You took it even worse than I did. You had the Packers in I don't know how many parlays and teasers or whatever you had. They were 14-point favorites against the Cardinals. They lost to the Cardinals and fired their coach immediately after the game.

How are you feeling, Cousin Sal? I feel good about the firing, that's for sure. I like to think that I had something to do with it. But this is one of those weeks where you just kind of hate a lot of teams, right? Yeah. I should be happy. My euphoria from Thursday, Cowboys win, should be holding over. But the Colts get shut out.

The Packers lose at home. I don't know what happened in that Steelers game. I love the Steelers. They didn't cover. but the Colts get shut out. The Packers lose at home. Uh, uh, just so my boat, I don't know what happened in that Steelers game. I love the Steelers. They didn't cover, they didn't show up in the second half. Like what's the like about this league right now?

And then of course the horrible stuff that went on Friday after, by the way, one of the biggest ratings, Thursday night ratings of all time. Then a few hours later, the league gets dealt the big blow with, uh, the chiefs news. But, uh, later, the league gets dealt the big blow with the Chiefs news. But yeah,

gambling-wise, not good. Not good at all. Yeah, let's talk about Kareem Hunt in a little bit. I think people probably have a little fatigue with that story. But I do have some thoughts.

You're not going to believe this, but I have some thoughts. You left out the Bears losing to the Giants. The Giants, every week, the Giants play really well and then desperately try to give the game away at the end,

which they did. It went into overtime. And then somehow the Giants won. And Chase Daniel on the road. I learned the hard way. Not a really reliable bet, Chase Daniel on the road. He started out the game with an eight-yard interception pick six. And it was one of those weeks.

We were worried about the, let's be careful out there a week, the Michael Conrad Memorial, the big favorites, except for the Packers, which I thought that line was absurd. I didn't think they deserved to be favored by 14 over everybody. I was shocked that you got sucked in on that one,

but I just wanted to be on the right side of when they laid the smackdown on a team at home in Lambeau and inferior team who pretty much gave up last quarter, daring him to throw long, and he's still throwing four-yard out routes to everybody. I don't know. Devontae Adams, you've got a deep threat there. You can get a flag thrown

if you try something new, and they didn't do anything offensively. It was disgusting. Sad Aaron. We talked about him last week. Looked especially sad during the game. Might not have been sad after the game. It was interesting. I don't think any of us were surprised that Mike McCarthy got fired.

I think maybe that it didn't happen on Monday. Getting fired right after the game is pretty severe. I don't really remember that happening very often. But the reactions, we were on the ringer NFL Slack. We were laughing because they had that OT show, the Fox show. They were ad-libbing trying to make sense of the McCarthy firing. Bradshaw and Howie Long, all those guys. It was rough. They just did not

have a lot of insight. They seemed confused. And Bradshaw just didn't seem like he knew what was going on. I'm not even sure he knew who Mike McCarthy was. And then everything ended with Tony Gonzalez telling us that, you know, you talk about who has more pressure on them going forward, Aaron Rodgers or Mike McCarthy. And I think it's Aaron Rodgers. And I was like, yeah, I actually agree with you, Tony, because Aaron's playing football. Mike McCarthy's not coaching for a team. The guy with the job.

Yeah, he has more pressure. I felt like the guy with the job might have more pressure. It was an abominable discussion. And then on the NBC side, Dungy goes on, and he's like furious that they fired McCarthy. And he does this whole thing of, look, you can't do that to a coach that won a Super Bowl. You can't fire him during the season.

He deserved more time. It's like, how much more time do we need? This was, we've been talking about this for four years. If anything, you know, he had the benefit of the doubt. It just seemed like a, like a marriage that had gone sour for years and years. And even our Supreme Court justices, like, okay, he won a Super Bowl, but everyone thought Tom Coughlin should be on his way out when he was, right? Maybe two, three years late.

But I don't know. I mean, to me, there were many signs that the team gave up on him. To me, like third and 23 against Arizona at home, and you give up a first down, like, albeit to Larry Fitzgerald, like, he should go. I at the life. It's Cheryl. Like he should go. I'm sorry. This is our policy. We have to fire our coach on third and 23 against Arizona.

If they, they convert you and Mike Patton, who I think is a defensive coach, you could just, just find another job. Well, I know he's here, but I know it costs you money,

but I'm going to make you feel better with the following comment. I doubt it. The interim coach is Joe Philbin. Oh, that's pretty good. Yeah. Joe Philbin. We made a lot of jokes about Joe Philbin. His team quit.

The Dolphins quit on him for weeks on end before they fired him. Remember that? I mean, we were making jokes about the Dolphins quitting on him probably eight weeks before they actually fired him. Remember that? I mean, we were making jokes about the Dolphins quitting on him probably eight weeks before they actually fired him. I thought you throw in the hard knocks and just the Dolphins team. I thought he was a memorably bad coach, one of the memorably bad coaches of this decade. And that's who they turned to take over for Mike McCarthy. Roger Sherman put this, I don't know if he tweeted it,

but he put it on our Slack. The two assistants out of 13 years of Mike McCarthy, the two assistants that came from the Mike McCarthy coaching tree were Joe Philbin and Ben McAdoo. Two of the greats.

What a coaching tree that is. Uh-oh, I think it just tipped over. I think Lightning just hit the coaching tree. That's the last Christmas tree in the world. That's the Charlie Brown coaching Christmas tree right there, right? Can you believe that? Ben McAdoo and Joe Philbin. It's like, what's your legacy as a coach?

Well, these are my two guys. I handpicked them. That's pretty bad. I nurtured them all the way in. I think Roger tweeted this, that the Texas Tech coach should be the next Packer coach. I nurtured them all the way in. I think Roger tweeted this, that the Texas Tech coach should be the next Packer coach. I was into that. People like that guy.

Cliff Kingsborough, yeah. Yeah. That would be fun, right? Give Rogers an offensive genius to work with, maybe? Sure, anything. I mean, he's up for good. But they say he might be going to USC. I don't know.

I don't know what's going on with that. But yeah, it does seem like a lot of coaches can go. And there's a couple of coaches like Jason Garrett and Bill O'Brien, who somehow has put together nine straight wins. They get a reprieve for what? At least a year, right? A year and a half now? Oh, yeah. What's it going to be?

Well, and then we didn't mention Carolina lost to the lowly Bucs today. Yeah. And Cam was, we went from wondering why he wasn't being mentioned in the MVP discussion to wondering what the hell's wrong with him in about four weeks.

He could have thrown six picks today. I think he had four, but he could have thrown six. I like Ron Rivera. I don't feel like his job is in danger

necessarily. I think Marvin Lewis, we worry that his job is in danger every year. We worry because we enjoy gambling against him sometimes, but.

Well, you know, it's funny. I mentioned this on against all odds. They had odds for Hugh Jackson replacing Marvin Lewis week one, 2019. The no is only minus two 20. It's like,

really? This is a consideration. Hugh Jackson. Put, put Condoleezza Rice in before Hugh Jackson again. Maybe they can get him with that guy. Right. They could co-coach. Hugh and Condoleezza Rice in before Hugh Jackson again. Maybe they can co-coach Hugh and Condoleezza. Hugh Jackson must look like Mike McCarthy and say, wait a minute, he had 125 wins? I had two and they barely fired me.

I couldn't, they couldn't get rid of me. If we did a crowdfunding thing to get the Bengals to hire Hugh Jackson and be on Hard Knocks, I feel like we could get up to about $6 million. At least we could fund whatever his first year of his salary is. It was a weird... The other weird thing that happened was... And this was kind of predictable because of the week they had. And maybe this is a good segue into Kareem Hunt.

But the Raiders kind of just hung around in that Chiefs game to the point where it actually seemed like they might win a couple times, and they ended up losing by seven, but they were super frisky. Their whole sideline was into it, and the Chiefs actually had to work to win that game, which was kind of insane to watch because they're terrible. Yeah, bad sign, I think, for the Chiefs. Now, of course, they had distractions and everything, so you figure maybe they lay an egg offensively, but they put up 40.

But defensively, they can't let what happened to them versus the Raiders happen in the playoffs. I mean, Derek Carl almost went for 300. He had three touchdowns. They had over 170 on their ground. You don't know who any of their receivers are.

Yeah, it's just anonymous receivers and Jared Cook. Yeah. And just in their thing. But it was clear that Kareem Hunt thing, especially reading the stories about how emotional it was to, you know, him fighting for them not to release him and all that stuff. Crazy story.

I guess my first thought on it was just, it really did feel like deja vu with the rice thing. Like right down to here's this TMZ video, clicking on it nervously, knowing it was going to be bad, not having no idea what was on it. And then it was bad. And you know, just like TMZ gets the video again. I've heard the case for the NFL, like, well, how are they going to get it? It's illegal for them to bribe an employee, like all that stuff. But,

you know, it's just ironic that TMZ over and over can get these videos. It became clear that he was either getting suspended for the season or that they were releasing him. And then just a lot of holes in the story of, oh, we, we knew something happened.

We didn't know it was this bad. And meanwhile, if you go back and read the news stories about it, it's pretty clear what happened. Then it comes out they didn't interview Kareem Hunt. They couldn't find the person who was assaulted to find out what happened from her end. And we just went through this four years ago. It was like there were no lessons learned. And, you know, it's this league that we try to justify It was like there were no lessons learned. It's this league that we try to justify why we like it.

I love fantasy. I love gambling. I like watching the Pats. I like the Sundays. And just over and over again, it just makes you not want to like football. They just come up with new ways to just go, oh man, we are bad people for liking this. Like I mentioned, this is hours

after the Thursday night game, which is record numbers. Obviously, I liked it for separate reasons. The Cowboys won. But, yeah, I just think there's too many factions, and there's still no protocol in place because you have the league, you have the team, and you have the law enforcement agency. And it's just like, you know, I don't know.

Okay, there's the whole thing like, okay, if he's not arrested, you can't do anything. Let's go. Okay. That's not true because the teams can get involved. But then the chiefs talked to Kareem hunt, but the league didn't talk to him, but the league did try to talk to the girl, but she didn't, she didn't want to talk. And the league claims they tried to get the tape, but they didn't like, I don't know, like, I don't know what to do anymore. I know Goodell handles everything wrong, but I just feel with the league. Like if they,

if they knew about the tape, it was bad. They didn't know about the tape. It was bad. I don't know which way to think here. I know there are certain things I can't say about it, but it just sucks all around. Well,

and then on top of it, it seemed like a big part of it was like, well, he lied to the team. It's like, well, that's let's face it seemed like a big part of it was like, well, he lied to the team. It's like, well, that's, let's face it, not the worst part of this. I'm sorry he lied to you, but I think there were worse parts of this whole story than

that. And even that, Dungy said that in the pregame show, that, well, you know, he did lie to them at that point. It's like, well, that's bad, but not really. But it's just... And then there's bad but not really but it's just and then there's Tyreek Hill who gets off easy because there's no video it's just so weird

the strange time we live in right now yeah and we knew about the Tyreek Hill thing so that's okay he can keep playing because we've already judged him but the Cream Hunt this is a fresh story so he's gotta go but Tyreek Hill stays and it does feel like...

I think it's the video, though. Oh, the video makes it... No question. I think you could do something worse, and there's no video proof of it, and you'll get... I mean, maybe the case here, but if there's a video, you're done. And I think what the video shows is, like, okay, not only did this happen, but there might be a history of this. Like, if we're catching this on tape once, maybe this stuff goes on. That's the implication, I think.

Right. Yeah. Well, and then you get gross here, but the first time I was caught by my parents, you know, in my own room, pleasure myself. Like, I'm sure they didn't think that was the only time I ever did it. Right. So I don't know. You were caught by your parents.

What? Oh, this is, this is bad. They're not listening. Your parents are alive. I hope they're not listening. Maybe they didn't know they caught you. It's hard to imagine. It's weird how a story this bad and unseemly, it's just hard to imagine them rebounding from this. And I don't feel like, I think Mahomes is more important than him. Tyreek Hill is more important than him and Kelsey is more important than him.

He's their fourth most important offensive players. And we saw tonight in the Chargers game, they bring in this running back who's their third string running back, Justin Jackson. He becomes the hero of the game. He looked like Gale Sayers.

He's unbelievable. And it seems like every team has five running backs that can come in and at least be competent. It shouldn't be a deal breaker for them. And, and yet I really think this is, this could be a deal breaker for them. It's just the mojo from this and the way they handled it. And I'm sure more stuff's going to come out. I guarantee this story is not over. We're going to learn a lot more. And it just kind of puts a pall over your season. Not to mention, like though it really sounded like it was emotional,

him fighting to not be released and all that stuff. I do want to say one thing about Goodell though, which I feel like I, I can say this time because I can't suspend myself. Cause you know, I in charge of the ringer. You can, you can do suspend myself because you know, I in charge of the ringer. You can, you can do whatever you want.

He, he's been basically in hiding for about two years. He's not a public face of the league at all. He shows up at the draft, you know, he hugs the players. He does this whole thing. Like he pretends he cares about the players.

He does. He'll show up at games. He'll sit in the suites. He'll give some very carefully orchestrated interview with somebody. You know, that no real hard questions. But I guess my question is, the commissioner is supposed to be the person that kind of sets the tone for the league. He's the ambassador. He's the connection between the fans and the players and the owners.

He's the one person who tries to have everybody's interest at heart. And you look at some of the other commissioners, Adam Silver, I think, is the best example of this. He's done a really good job with the NBA. This has been covered a million times. I think Rob Manfred has done a pretty nice job with baseball. And I think Gary Bettman's had a head injury, but, um, but Goodell is just like, not only is he not doing his job, he's, he's like trying to keep a low profile, which is even weirder.

Like at that point, just don't have the job. Why do you have this job? You, you, you offer nothing. What do you have this job? You offer nothing. What do you bring to the table? Where was he this weekend? Really strange. I wonder if this is the case that he's so in the owners or the important owners pockets. And literally, I mean, how much does the guy make? Yeah. 40 million bucks. 40, 45. Yeah. It's like 40. Yeah. So I wonder if they tell him like, Hey, just, just keep your nose clean. And you make us money. Or for some reason, the league's making money while you're in office.

So we're going to keep renewing you. And just don't do anything stupid. But what he thinks is stupid, at least. So I wonder if that's kind of it. Like you think with LeVar Ball. Where they paid him to go away? Yeah. They paid LeVar to go away.

It's just I don't know how he kind of carries himself day to day with any sense of professional dignity. He's so bad at this. Over and over again, they have these issues and these scandals and these problems and

they'll change the rules at the beginning of the season. You can't hit the quarterback anymore. And then three weeks in, they're like, oh yeah, we screwed that up. All right, let's go back to the old rules. The concussion, the CTE stuff, the blue tent. It just, all of it rings so hollow. It's just, my question is, could you do worse? Could you do a worse job?

Probably not. Probably. My question is, who's he trying to impress? You? Me? No, he doesn't care about us.

Or Jerry Jones and Robert Kraft. Right. He cares about those guys. He cares, cares about protecting the TV contract. I mean,

even the way he's handled ESPN. They've neutered ESPN over the last year. ESPN just doesn't cover the league with the same sort of vigor and intensity. And they are clearly a partner. And ESPN and Jimmy Patara, who runs ESPN now. And I think, by the way, this is pretty smart. He's made a concerted effort to make the NFL a partner again and to suck up to them and not make it

adversarial. Make it more like you were in this together. They just did that deal with the NFL draft where they're going to televise on an ABC. It's like they're courting the NFL in a lot of different ways. And I think I'm going to be really interested to see what happens at ESPN over the next couple of years with opinion and with criticism. And you look at what happened with Jamel Hill and people like that. Just where that goes. If I'm working at ESPN, like if I had a column at ESPN right now and I wanted to turn in a column on Monday, just hammering Goodell, would they run it? I have no idea. I don't know what the mindset is. They would run it like you wrote it. You'd have a million notes, I think. Let's say I did a podcast where I ripped Goodell. In 2018, would they suspend me? Oh,

wait, they did four years ago. They did it in 2014, whatever. Terrible example. I just don't get the Goodell thing at all. Maybe I'm overthinking what a commissioner should do and what their responsibility should be. But we're in the same position a little bit with what the country's like now. People expect the president to be a leader, whether you're a Republican or a Democrat,

whatever your incentives are as an American, and you might not agree with a lot of the president's policies, but at the bottom line is you want somebody who can be a leader who, when Southern California, Malibu and Calabasas is on fire, you want to have a leader in the country who at least makes you feel good as you're wondering if Southern California is going to burn down. Not a guy who's going to blame people for not monitoring forest fires. Right. I think you hit it on the head between the two of them.

He doesn't give a shit about what most people think. No, he doesn't. He's not as brazen about it. He's not tweeting about it every day, but that's the bottom line. He knows which side of bread butter's on. Are you talking about Goodell or Trump?

Both. It's kind of the same. Yeah. It's like a leader should be able to lead even people who disagree with them. Goodell's not trying to lead anybody anymore. I mean, he's trying to lead the owners and that's it. But he should have been out this weekend and been like, I can't believe this happened again.

This is on us. We put in all these policies. It's a long time for this. It's a long time letting it hang like this. They really make you hate yourself. He shouldn't do an interview before Roger Goodell, right? That was another thing. Do you think ESPN should have run that? I don't know. It didn't do him any favors, that's for sure. No. No. It kind of made it like he doesn't really understand what's going on.

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It was great. And the guy next to me was watching the Cowboys game. So I was able to put on the basketball game and I basically had two TVs going on an airplane. It was great.

I really felt like I was at my house. And your defense was, we knew, this is what we were talking about last week on the pod when I thought that line was too high. And I was like, I really like your front seven. I think you could get pressure.

That was, what your defense did in that game, not only was the best Dallas' look, but, you know, other than a couple Bears games, that was basically the best defensive performance we've seen all year. At what point did you need to be hosed down? I still don't really believe what I saw. And yeah, you called it. I mean, you said the line should have been smaller. I don't think anyone thought it would be a 13-10 game. But yeah, the defense, I mean, we have the best linebacking crew in the game. Sean Lee's not even in there.

Leighton Vanderash is like the defensive rookie of the year for sure. Jalen Smith. You know, Demarcus Lawrence has like 24 sacks in two years. Randy Gregory was off the field. Like, he made some atrocious errors that really could have lost them the game. But they are something else. Irving didn't even play the other day. Like, I can't believe it. I hope it keeps up.

You know, sometimes these teams peak or defenses, like, get tired or something. But it seems that they seem to be doing all the right things. I think nine and seven wins that division. I don't think, I don't think I'm being, um, you know, I don't think I'm being overly confident when I say this seven and five team is going to, it's going to win the division, right? Well, it's funny. You know, we, there's a lot of talking about Jones's competency, all that stuff. We mentioned this a few weeks ago. They've always drafted. Well,

they have, they have had always, but yeah, no, I mean, if you just made a whole list of who, who's, who's pulled off the best kind of draft picks for the spot and things like

that, they've over and over again again been able to find guys. Like you said, they have the defensive rookie of the year this year. This isn't the first time that they've had that kind of success. They are really good at finding talent. And I think the coaching part was always the part that we wondered about. Maybe the clapper, maybe he just needed 300 games to figure it out. Maybe the clapper is coming into his own.

This could be it for him. What do you think? The clapper. I still think he sucks. And you know, that's the comment I get on Twitter and with friends all that who don't root for the Cowboys. Like,

yeah, congratulations. Now Dak is extended and now Jason Garrett's extended. And I almost feel worse about Dak being extended. I don't know. A coach could get extended. I think Jeff Fisher was fired like three weeks after it was extended. And I almost feel worse about Dak being extended. I don't know. A coach, you get extended. I think Jeff Fisher was fired like three weeks after it was extended.

It didn't, it didn't matter as much, but right. That they have to give him nine figures. Right. And it's, it's only because really they're stuck. You can't,

I think he's, I think he's closer to Tim Tebow than Russell Wilson, but you know, if his defense is going to be like, all right, we're going to win every game 20 to 17, and there's no one better out there, I think they have to give him the deal, right?

I don't think it's ever worked out when, to overpay a quarterback, that's basically not an all-pro. I don't agree with the thinking. I don't think it's a good idea. But what are you going to do, though? What do you do then? When is it? This spring, you have to do it? Yeah. I don't think it's a good idea. What are you going to do, though? What do you do then? When is it? This spring you have to do it? Yeah.

I wouldn't do it. By the way, it doesn't matter what I think. You're going to do it. You're going to give them like $110 million. That's what I mean. They're stuck. They're stuck. And Cooper will get a big thing, too. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Where did that second receiver come from? That's another guy they found.

Oh, Gallup? Yeah. Who makes huge catches in from? That's another guy they found. Oh, Gallup? Yeah, who makes huge catches in traffic. That's the thing that gets me. That overthrow. That should have been the game. It shouldn't have even been close. But we need a quarterback that can make that throw. Well, right now, Rams 11-1, Saints 10-2.

Bears get the loss. They're down to 8-4. You actually, as amazing as this sounds, have a chance to get the three seed because Chicago has the Rams next week, Packers at San Fran, and then they're in mini to end it. Your last four, you're going to be favored in all of them. Well, you might not be favored in week 15, but you're home Philly, at Indianapolis, home Tampa. I might not be favored. week 15, but you're home Philly at Indianapolis. Home Tampa.

Yeah, home Tampa at the Giants. You'll be favored in three of the four. Right. You'll be a field goal underdog in the other one. It feels like a 10 and 16. I think we kind of talked about this. You don't want the four seed right now. Because I think the Seahawks are as hot a team as there is in the

NFC. Now I don't want to overdo it now. I know they beat up on the Niners, but they've had, they put together a nice string here and Russell Wilson looks solid. Their defense looks good. I don't think you want the four seed. I'd be a little nervous from the Rams at the one seat. The Seahawks beat the Cowboys and or whoever's the four seed. Then you go into the Rams, you already played them close. Seahawks are not the team you want to play. Dallas probably isn't the team you want to play either because defensively they can make you look stupid. But that's the team I want to avoid, Seattle.

I wouldn't mind playing Jason Garrett in the playoffs. I don't know. Yeah. Wouldn't mind seeing him across the other sideline. It would be the worst thing in the world. Pete Carroll threw his gum today. I'd be the worst thing in the world. So we got... Pete Carroll threw his gum today. I think that's

like lighting a menorah. I'll tell you now, like, uh-oh, they're turning it on now. Well, Pete Carroll definitely has a vibe now of, I had all these guys

on defense, basically did a semi-mutiny against my quarterback. We picked the quarterback and we're better off. Screw those guys. They got me a Super Bowl and I got rid of all of them.

And now I'm a guy. So we have out of the wildcard team, Seattle 7-5, Minnesota 6-5-1. Carolina 6-6 and dropping like a stone with two Saints games left. They're almost a cross off. I can't believe like Tampa is. And I said this this week on locking in. I was like, Tampa, they're just a cross-off. I can't believe Tampa is... And I said this this week on Locking In. I was like, Tampa, they're just a shitty team. They really are, because they'll screw you up.

I have them under six wins. I was looking great there. They just want to screw everything up. They want to play spoiler in the playoffs. They're not very good, but they'll screw up my under six. They'll screw up a team like the Panthers' playoff chances, and they'll remain just not a good team. That's what they do.

Well, Tampa is somehow not out of the playoff picture. Yeah, they're a game behind Carolina now, right? Washington, if Philly beats Washington, both of those teams would be six and six if Philly wins that one. And then Tampa's on the outside, just kind of lingering. But nine and seven does look realistic for that last seed. wins that one. And then Tampa's on the outside, just kind of lingering. But there is, you know, nine and seven does look realistic for that last seed. Then you go

to the AFC. I think real quick before you go to the AFC, I think this is why Mike McCarthy got fired. I think they were like, hey, look, asshole, the Vikings lost. The Lions lost. The Bears don't look great all of a sudden. You have a chance to make your move here,

and you lose to the cruddy Cardinals at home. Yeah, the worst losses, most indefensible losses today were Green Bay and Indianapolis. Indianapolis gets shut out. I don't know what happened in that game. So they're 6-6 instead of 7-5, and now there's four 6-6 teams. Baltimore's 7-5 with some tough games left.

They're at the Chiefs and at the Chargers. Yep. And the Chargers are 9-3. They basically look like they're in. I mean, we're looking for one spot. I think the Chargers and Seattle are locks for five seeds, unless the Chargers catch the Chiefs, but I don't think that's possible, really. It'ss but I don't think that's possible really. It's possible.

I don't think it's going to happen. So yeah, you're looking for one more team in the AFC, right? And that's a much worse 4-5 matchup. I mean, I'm with you.

Seattle's dangerous but Chargers are another level of dangerous and you have right now Pittsburgh's 8-4. We could see the game we saw tonight. We might be seeing that again.

What a weird game. At halftime... Yeah. Yeah, that sucked. I mean, we had money on Pittsburgh. You were celebrating some stupid fantasy win that didn't mean anything when Keenan Allen... I know, you got mad at me. A miracle touchdown after the defensive

collision. The first two touchdowns. Between that and that freaking right tackle, he got up the miracle touchdown after the defensive collision, that first two touchdowns between that and the, and the, and that fricking right tackle was, he got up out of his stance. He was in the backfield. It was the eye formation, every single play and the reps didn't call it,

but especially on that first touchdown, uh, that drove me crazy, but I don't know how the Steelers, how do you blow a game like that? 23, seven at home at half. And you're getting the ball.

I don't know. Third string running back. Keenan Allen, they threw to him 19 times. He caught 14. He had a great fantasy day, but every single time they needed a play, he made it. The third string running back was awesome. The thing that shocked me, what was it?

23-6 at halftime or 23-9 or whatever it was? 23-7. 23-7. I just thought Pittsburgh was going to score 50 points. It just seemed like they could move the ball whenever they wanted. And then they came out in the second half and just three straight crap drives. Chargers had the momentum.

We found out that- I find it hard to believe that Antonio Brown and Juju Smith-Schuster just disappeared. They're forcing balls to Hayward Bay. It was double covered. Like, I don't know what goes on with that team. And they look like they should score 50 every game. Yeah, Ben missed a couple throws.

The whole game just had, it had a vibe that the Chargers were going to win even before they had the lead. It just had that kind of feel to it. And we've seen that specific Mike Tomlin era game a lot of times, especially on national TV, where when it gets late like that, it just feels like weird stuff's going to happen. I still thought

even though that Chargers kicker had three different chances to make it, it's still the Chargers. It could have been an 18-yard field goal and I still would have expected him to miss it until it went through. I was hoping that they kept, I was like, just keep going off sides. Eventually, maybe they won't call it.

Or maybe this guy, you'll get to him. I'm sure he's kicking less than an extra point at this point. But yeah, you're right. The charges kicker. Like, I don't know. And then I ended up getting mad at my, I'm so bad because my family could figure out that I have money on the Steelers. Yeah.

Now they're rooting for the Steelers. Because you're stamping it everywhere. When he blocks it, I'm for some reason the only one who could tell that he jumped offside. So they're going crazy. Now I'm starting to get mad at them. Shut up! I'm a terrible jerk. So you, is it fair to say it was a shellacking for you today? Yeah, it was really really bad I really needed that

the one thing I had was the Steelers over 26 and a half points and I almost didn't get that even though they had 23 at halftime but yeah everything else

was bad and I freaking I don't know maybe we want to talk about this later but I had Fury no let's talk about it now

let's talk about it now in fact did you watch it? Yeah. This is the perfect time for us to take our Crown Royal water break. Crown Royal are doing something pretty cool this football season. They launched a responsible drinking campaign called the Water Break. It's all about encouraging people to

hydrate between drinks for a better experience whether at the game, watching at home, or in a bar. Have a great time. Enjoy some Crown. Don't be that person. That ruins it for everyone. We've all seen that guy who drank too much watching the game. Make the right call. Take a water break.

Who made the right call this week? We usually do, or not. I'm going to go with an or not. There's a judge that scored this fight 115 to 111 for Wilder. Yeah. I love boxing. I feel the same way about boxing as I do at the NFL. I'm almost like a traumatized fan at this point. There's just been so much dysfunction and so many bad things

and so many bad people. And it hit that point a long time ago where you go, why do I watch this? Why do I do this? Here's another one. The judges, there's always one judge that just, you don't know what they're watching. They might be getting paid off. Who the hell knows? I am giving them my, you did not make the right call this week because if you watch that fight

and you thought Wilder won 115 to 111, I don't know what the hell to tell you. I mean, people thought Fury won 10 rounds. Nine, maybe 10, I don't know what the hell to tell you. I mean, people thought Fury won 10 rounds, maybe nine, maybe 10. I don't know. But this goes to my, my thing that I've said forever.

Why did we only settle on three judges for boxing matches? All you're doing is title fight for a title fight for any championship fight. We should have at least five, because if you have a small sample size, if you only have three judges, and one of those three screws up, you almost can't recover with the decision if it's close. But if you have five, and you have the one person who just goes off the reservation, you can still have a chance to have the right decision. But this is a classic case of one guy scored at a draw, which is fine. That's not the worst thing in the world.

One guy gets it wrong and now we have to have a rematch and it's a draw. And meanwhile, that fight was not a draw. What, what was your final score for it? No, I thought, actually, I thought that I thought the draw was the closest. I know it's unsatisfying, but I thought, I thought it was close. I thought there was two 10, eight rounds. Yeah. And you know, I mean, the guy, he got knocked down twice. So it could be a draw.

I think you're right. You can't have two 114, 110s, one going one way, one going the other way. But let me caution you. You want to get five judges in there. It would have done nothing for Pacquiao versus Joe Horn. Was it Jeff Horn? It was terrible. Oh, gosh.

All three judges had Jeff Horn winning. So even that's not the, even that's not maybe the answer. But they have to do something. What about 21 judges? 21's a good number. What if we allowed

those celebrities to also judge? Yeah, what if like Charles Barkley gets to, the two celebrity judges? It could be like American Idol. Hey, I'm not against someone watching from home

being a judge either. I sometimes think being there may be a cloud of judgment. In some cases, the judges' seats were... One judge claimed she wasn't able to see where she was sitting. I've thought about that because I've had really good seats

for boxing a couple times and you still can't see like half the fight so maybe it should be all televised well my problem was with the ref I mean I and obviously this was

biased because I had the under I had that it wouldn't go the distance and you know this is one of those things where two six foot eight guys really almost knock each other out in the press conference you're like oh this isn't going to distance someone's going to land unless like unless like well you know Fury's a push bag and holds the whole fight but that wasn't the case they were kind of unloading bombs it was good yeah then Fury goes down the ninth he gets up He goes down in the 12th. And it was compared to The Undertaker in the WWE. I mean, he's staring at the lights at the six count.

Yeah, he was dead. It seemed like he was dead for four seconds. Yeah. And he just rises up and gets to his feet and still wobbly. Now, the problem is the ref did that thing where he counted. He didn't catch the count from there's supposed to be some official where you is counting while the rep pushes everyone to their corners, like wilders those corners. But I don't know if he ever picked up that man or woman or didn't,

he started his own camp. Fury was down for a good three Mississippi camp before he started. And then even so he's like breaking the count and looking at wilder and he got up. I thought he got up at like 13 or 14, which is not legal. Yeah. It shouldn't be legal. Yeah.

That was pretty crazy. And a couple of people mentioned this, so I'm not saying I invented it, but it was the first thing I thought of too, watching it. Wilder thought he won. It really was the end of the 14th round and Rocky won, where Creed's celebrating and he turns around and the shoulders sag and the rocks waving him back in.

That's my favorite part of, I think any Rocky movie. And, uh, it did have that feel to it where he thought he wanted, he did the throat cut gesture. Uh, he's celebrating and then he kind of turns like,

wait, that guy got up. So that was pretty cool. I'm, I, I would like to see rematch. We should have gone. I was in New York and I couldn't,

we should have been at that fight. Rem in New York and I couldn't have been. I know, we should have gone. We should have been at that fight. But there was a rematch clause. They don't have to fix this for it to be a rematch. I felt the same thing with the first, what do you call it, Canelo and Triple G match. I'm like, the judges don't have to be shitty here. We're going to have a rematch anyway. Just call it as you see it.

Who would you rather have run in the NFL? The three judges or Roger Goodell? If you had to pick. Maybe Tyson Fury. I don't know. I have my... What's it called? The Crown Royal Water Break. This is the longest...

Dan Sanborn didn't know he was getting a six-minute read for the Crown Royal Water Break this time. He always gets his way, but I have to give it to Philip Lindsay. Yeah. 157 yards. Broncos running back.

He's five, eight, one 90, which is like me. If I lost, you know, 20, 25 pounds,

but let me, let me tell you this. No undrafted offensive player since 1970 has made the pro bowl as a rookie has gotten a pro bowl invitation as a rookie offensively this guy's gonna do it he averages six and a half yards every time he touches the ball i think he's got like 940 yards rushing or something that only barkley has more and uh like he lives in his parents basement in colorado or something jesus phil lindsey good job by you oh i, I like that you shored it to Phil. Yeah, it's Phil. Phil Lindsay.

Sounds like a golfer. Philly Rivers. Yeah, we got them all. Phil Lindsay finished 14th at Sawgrass. Yeah. All right. That is the Crown Royal water break. Crown Royal reminds everyone this football season to take a water break and hydrate responsibly.

Broncos had a tough break. They lost Chris Harris. He broke his leg. Yeah. to take a water break and hydrate responsibly. Broncos had a tough break. They lost Chris Harris. He broke his leg. And they really seem like, you know, they have major run the table potential. At San Francisco, home Cleveland, at Oakland, the next three, they're six and six. And, you know, potentially now, we were talking about,

oh my God, they have the Chargers week 17. That'll be great. That game might mean nothing to the Chargers. They might've clinched the five seed. You know, Phillip Rivers might have another kid during the week 17. Kid number nine, Sal. Nine kids. I don't get it.

How many nannies do you think? Six girls, two boys. They're expecting another girl. What are you looking for here? What I'm looking for is hard knocks with just the Rivers family. No other Chargers. I think our goal needs to be

to get Phil Rivers on parent corner. Do you think he'd do it? We have some Chargers connections. Matt Money Smith is... We need 750 stories. Can we borrow you for a minute? What if they did a hard knocks at Phil Rivers' house? It was like Liev Schreiber's voice.

And he's like, after Katie threw up on Phil's wife, Phil knew she was going to be in a bad mood. I like it. It could be great. I think that's why he throws sidearm, because he's just tearing kids all day. He's like, I just can't lift. I can't lift my hands anymore.

I'm throwing from my head. At some point, after nine kids, is it just like 11, 12? Does it matter at that? Once you get past like four, does it matter? You may as well have like 20. It's just complete chaos. Anyway, I want to know so much more about what their house is like. I'm so fascinated by it because any friend I've had, who's had three kids, they just have that glazed, overwhelmed look. And you know it because you have three kids. But then when you get to four, it's kind of like, they almost seem liberated. You can't do at four. You're just kind of a prisoner to the family at that point. You have, you have no real control over everything. It's just complete chaos at all time. And you just give into it.

But nine, nine is just gotta be, I just, I don't know how to go anywhere. How do you fly? How do you get all those tickets? I mean, I know money's not an issue,

but really just getting everybody in and out of any airport or anything, like unless they fly private. Well, what about like just getting them to like soccer games and karate and, everybody in and out of any airport or anything, like unless they fly private everywhere. Well, what about like just getting them to like soccer games and karate and ballet practice? How do they do all that? Right. Yeah, no, this one's basketball practice is canceled, but this one's moved to another.

Yeah, oh, there's so much. I don't even want to think about it. Phillip Rivers, you're an MVP candidate. You have a great head of hair. You obviously have very strong seed. We would love to have you on Parent Corner to discuss all this stuff. We'll do a very special Parent Corner and we can talk about all those things

and a lot more. It'll be awesome. Let's get to the week 14 lines. You starting to get sad, Sal? Really? Yeah, I'm starting to get sad. You know why? Not that I've been out of it

for a long time but now fantasy playoffs starts and all this other stuff and yeah I get sad well you do you finish

1-12 in our league? I did right? I lost today? I think you did 1-12 is really magnificent it's one for the ages meanwhile I'm like 15 points

behind two teams making the playoffs. Yeah. We have Daily Fantasy. That's true. You can play on FanDuel. FanDuel.com. And you're checking my ass

in this Guess the Lines thing. What did I have to say? People ask me to read it. You're winning eight weeks to four weeks and then we tied one week. I'm so proud of myself. Wait, before we do Guess the Lines, we got to talk about college really quick. The Alabama-Georgia game

was officially like a moment. It definitely was like one of the five games of the year, I feel like. I don't know if it'll end up getting nominated for an ESPYs. ESPY Best Game Award or whatever. You watched. I'm proud of you. I was at a dinner where people were telling me

what was happening on their phone. That's how close I got. I really liked the kid Jalen Hurts though. I was psyched that he didn't transfer and that he finally had his moment. It reminded me a little bit, you know, I like to bring everything back to the Pats and the Boston teams.

When the future GOAT Tom Brady took over in 01 and everyone thought Bledsoe was going to get his job back and he didn't but then we actually needed Bledsoe in the AFC title game in Pittsburgh because Brady got hurt and Bledsoe came in he threw a touchdown and he kind of had his moment and it was nice that

Jalen Hurts got to have his Nick Saban pretended that he I didn't think of the Patriots at all. That's weird. You didn't think of them? That's so funny. Nick Saban pretended he had human emotion after. I thought that was fun. He pretended tears... They injected tears

into his eyeballs so they could get well up with tears. He's the best. You talk about Belichick. He's the Belichick. This is not saying anything no one's heard before, but when your third team is as fast and strong and everything else as everybody's first team, you've done everything right as a coach.

We rarely talk about college football, but the fake punt was one for the ages. Where'd you stand on the fake punt at midfield on fourth and 11? First of all, bringing in the quarterback as your quote-unquote blocker is like, why not just put

a bullseye on him? Of course they were going to do something weird. That's so strange. Late in the third and early in the fourth, Georgia had momentum in fourth and fourth midfield, and Jake Fromm, he had the hot hand. They took the ball out of his hand, which is a problem, but how about that? How about you run a play there

on fourth and four when you have everything going for you? Fourth and 11 against the punt safe defense. Like everybody's faster than your guys anyway on defense. What are they doing? They just gave it away there. You know what you should do is bring in your guy who has a number one on his jersey to be the guy who blocks for the punter.

They're going to notice that guy. Right. He's a little girl in red in, what do you call it? What's the movie? The one girl who only wore red. What movie? Schindler's List. Oh, my God.

Schindler's List. That was horrible. I'm just saying, the whole movie was in black and white. I know nothing about college football. I stopped watching it carefully years ago I know enough to know that the University of Georgia fans are especially tortured

and I want to give them all a shout out if any of them are listening because they're in that pre-2004 Red Sox kind of whatever can go wrong will go wrong and that had to be one of their worst losses I'm guessing because then it knocked them out of the BCS.

Sure, and it sucks because they are, if you go by who's in the top four, like best teams, they're maybe second best. So did you agree with the four? The four picks? I tweeted ahead of time. I was like, Oklahoma's going to be four. It's fine. I think they want like, you know, Kyla Murray and,

uh, and Tua, if he plays, those are, those are the one, two for Heisman. That's a nice, you know,

semifinal matchup. So they did a good job putting Oklahoma at four. Are you going to be breaking this down on against all ads this week? Yeah, of course. Do you have, you have a, I know what you're going to do.

I saw the odds for the games. If I know you, if I know my pal, Sal, you're going to do. I saw the odds for the games. If I know you, if I know my pal Sal, you're going to be parlaying those favorites together, and then something bad's going to happen to one of them. Yeah, you're going to do that, aren't you? Well, so the best part of it is, yes, you're right. I like Alabama as a double-digit favorite on the money line. I like Clemson as a double-digit favorite over Notre Dame.

And that weekend, we could add a wild card game. So there you go. And I'm making you do it. Don't believe, don't even think I'm not. One of those, one of those will blow it. Probably not Alabama, but the, uh, Clemson. Yeah. I don't know.

But Clemson's playing Notre Dame, right? Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. Stay away from that one. A lot of speed there for Clemson. playing Notre Dame, right? Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. Stay away from that one. A lot of speed there for Clemson. Stay away from that one. All right, we're going to do the lines in a second.

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All right. So Thursday night, remember when we were talking about how we thought the AFC South was actually pretty sneaky. Good. Yeah. Remember that? Yeah. It's not.

It turns out it was sneaky, but it wasn't good. Hold on. You don't think the Jaguars have a reserve resurgence here? No, I don't. Titans home think the Jaguars have a resurgence here? No, I don't. Titans home for the Jaguars. The Titans,

the Jets were basically just repeatedly trying to hand them the game and the Titans just wouldn't take it and then finally they begrudgingly took it and kept their playoff hopes alive. I have them favored by three at home over the Jags. All right. I had six and a half because I don't like this Jaguars team on the road at

all, but it is four and a half. So you are closer. I am another losing bet. I know. Cause you like keeping track. I loved, and we went over this on against the law, Cody Kessler, over a half an interception today was minus 160. I was like, oh, I got to put everything on that.

And I think it was like 16 for 21 with no picks. No picks, right? Yeah. No, nothing. And he had no Leonard Fournette either. Classic. Right, yeah. Sunday Marquis, congratulations, cuz.

Some people thought the Chiefs Ravens should have gone in there now I put the Cowboys Eagles just for you Sunday marquee you know it's funny because I was thinking maybe you don't make it

a marquee but only because the Eagles are so iffy that's how confident I am now in this dumb Cowboys team gee I love this this is great

I know I know confident Cowboys fan Sal is my favorite Sal well I'm good until the playoffs. I think they'll make the playoffs, but you could convince me of anything once they get there. I have the Cowboys by four and a half over the Eagles.

Yeah, I went high. I said six. It's four. So you'll get that. Well, we're going to know what this Eagles team tomorrow. We're now in December, and none of us have liked what we've seen from the Eagles yet, but who the hell knows.

Yeah, I mean, it was only a few weeks ago. It's just weird. This hasn't worked out, this trade with the Lions at all, this Golden Tate thing. Yeah, for fantasy people, for anybody. It's a nice spot for you, Sal. That's not a night game

though, right? I'm surprised they didn't flex that. They made it Rams Bears I don't know what they had before then Rams Bears is pretty good

yeah that'd be good alright the watchables Chiefs Ravens don't know what to make of this Ravens team

3-0 since Flacco went down Lamar Jackson went into the concussion protocol. It looked a little grim for them for a second. They fought their way out of it.

Now they're going to the Chiefs. What a weird game this is going to be. Because the Ravens are basically running this old school, it's basically the freaking wishbone. And the Chiefs are just airing it out every play and don't really have a starting running back anymore. And it's the contrast of styles. It could either be a disaster or it could be really fun.

I have the Chiefs by eight and a half over the Ravens. This might be the best defense the Chiefs have faced in a while, I think. I had eight and a half also, and it's seven. They're not giving them more than seven here, but you're right. This is a weird matchup. I wouldn't know which way to go with it. What did Lamar J hit? 75 rushing today?

It's pretty effective. It's weird. I'm sure the NFL, I'm sure people will get enough tape on it and then figure out how to shut it down and force them to throw a lot more and all that stuff but they're controlling the clock it feels like an identity

for whatever it is I don't think the Chiefs are the team to shut it down I didn't like anything I saw of that defense today and I think this is the marquee matchup honestly I think there's two playoff teams in here I didn't want to make this the marquee matchup, honestly. I think there's two playoff games in here. I didn't want to make this the marquee matchup because there's a chance

the Chiefs win 46-5. Yeah. Next one. Saints. Bucks. I think this is a watchables. Saints, 10-day rest. Coming off a shellacking.

The Breeze MVP odds, we should talk about that. It was probably, I think he was up to like minus 400. It free fall down to something like minus 150. Mahomes was plus 130 today. I thought about hitting you, trying to figure out,

you know, whether that was worth betting. And it's funny. I noticed Rivers was 20 to one. Was he really? Wow. I bet that'll go down because they can somehow catch the Chiefs and take control of the AFC West. Yeah.

I think you can make a real case for them. We could have Mahomes this time last week at 4-1. Yeah. With all that's going on. If he gets them to 13-3 with all the distractions, I think he gets a lot of sympathy. That Dallas game will be a tough one for Breeze to shake off. He was not good.

They were not good. It was a pretty high-profile game. They broke their spirit with that goal line stand, the Cowboys. It was great. Breeze has had games where he's had... I mean, I think that when the Red Sox won the World Series, Brees was home against the Vikings. That was a Sunday night game.

I think he only had like 149 yards, but three touchdowns, you know? So he could be a clunker in the yardage department. But that was not good for his MVP. Which time the Red Sox won the World Series? Which one of the four? Oh, stop it. Which I'm just, I'm asking.

04, 07, 13, or 18? Which time? You're talking about this year? Our buddy Hench brought up a good point with this ongoing, never, never, never ending back and forth on email about this questionable trade that was made. In our fantasy league, yeah, it split our league apart. And now it's like 60 pages in. And then someone says, I think Jon Hamm said, oh, now, wow, this is something else. I wonder why people hate Boston fans' guts.

That's like, well, there's Boston fans on every side of it. The guy who made the bad trade is in Boston. Right, right. The guy who traded with the guy who's no matter in Boston. Everyone's a Boston fan. What are you talking about here? Meanwhile, he has a fantasy. Jon Hamm has a fantasy team right now that had, until this weekend,

Kareem Hunt, Jameis Winston, and Adrian Peterson. Yeah. So there are a couple of jokes there about the kind of characters that he likes on his fantasy team. Exactly, yeah. Bad times at the El Royale for Jon Hamm's fantasy team. What did you have for Tampa Bay? I had Saints by nine.

Alright, I got it exactly. I said eight and a half. Proud to say I hit it on the head. And they lost this game already. This was their week one loss, right? The Bucs are in the hilarious position of Jameis just playing well enough to have them kind of have to be forced to pick up his giant option for next year. Right. Yeah.

It's a mortal lock. He'll have like 430 yards on the last week of the season. They'll have to talk themselves into it. I feel the same way with the coach, too. I bet like Cutter gets an extent. They're going to win six or seven games, but he'll be back next year. Next one, watchable. I think the Giants are goddamn

watchable. Kudos to them. Very enjoyable Giants season all of a sudden. Every week they're in, Saquon Barkley is one of the most exciting guys. Exciting running backs. By the way, I mean, if we're doing a redraft, who would you want? Would you want Baker Mayfield or Saquon Barkley?

Well, which team am I? Any team. Am I the Jets or am I the Giants or who? I just feel like, I've been saying this for weeks. People think I'm crazy. I just think Saquon's once in a generation. Yeah. Sam Darnold is definitely not once in a generation.

And Baker, I don't know. I don't know. Right, but you just talked with the Kareem Hunt thing, how we could pick the third string for the Chargers did well and everything. I know Barkley's different. Saquon is. I think they needed a quarterback. Everyone's calling for Eli's head

because he's not even the best. You know, Beckham throws better balls than he does at this point, but their quarterback for next year is not on the roster this year. Yeah, but every year you could get like Case Keenum. Yeah. All I know is...

You gotta get lucky with a guy like that. We had the Bears. I had the Bears money line with the Rams money line. Just needed the Bears. I had the Bears' money line with the Rams' money line. Just needed the Bears to win. The Bears just pooped the bed the whole game. They are down 10. Get it down inside the 10. Somehow settle for a field goal with two minutes left,

which seemed awful. Get the onside kick. Go down. Score in the last play on some double reverse Tariq Cohen play. That was magnificent and we go into overtime and the

Giants win the coin toss and I'm going fuck like Barkley's gonna beat me now I know he's gonna do something and then he ripped off like a 40 yarder and set up the field goal.

But my point is, going into an overtime and you bet against a team that's not even good, how many running backs would make you go like, fuck, I'm screwed? He is on the all-time short list for me. I'm so scared of that guy. I think he's unbelievable. Look at you. All right. I'm so scared of that guy. I think he's unbelievable. Look at you. All right. I love Barkley.

Baker, I like Baker a hell of a lot more than Darnold. You want to do a Barkley-Mahomes money line, rookie of the year MVP thing? Oh, that's interesting. Who else is the competition for rookie? What's that? Who else is the competition for rookie? What's that? Who else is the competition for offensive rookie of the year? Baker.

He's not winning. He's stunk today. It was almost similar to Breeze in the home. No. Barkley's got to be the rookie of the year. He's phenomenal. Yeah. Maybe my guy, Phillip Lindsay.

Who knows? Oh, he could be in there. Yeah. I got the Redskins favored by four over the Giants at home. Yeah. You went too high. I went too high, too. I said three.

It's one and a half. In Washington? Yeah, in Washington. I think maybe Vegas is losing money on people betting the Giants lately. Well, they took some of my money. Wow. Surprised by that. That was a bad one today.

No, they're definitely a watchable team. Anytime Beckham drops back to pass, it's fun. Eli is just fun. Anytime Barkley has the ball, it's super exciting. Anytime they throw to Beckham, it's super exciting. Anytime Eli goes back to pass, it's super exciting. The ball might go to his team. It might go to the other team.

He might get sacked. He might fumble. I don't know. I enjoy it. It's funny when Beckham throws the touchdown pass and he and Eli do the jump, the chest bump thing. Yeah. And it's like, what are you doing, Eli? Everyone in the stadium is making the same comment right now. Like, Oh, that should be our quarterback. I'm telling you, I'm telling you,

it wouldn't be worse. I was at dinner with a diehard, diehard Giants fan who I won't name on Saturday night, and he's like, in dead seriousness goes, I mean, there's no great quarterbacks in this draft. I'm fine with one more year of Eli. He was dead serious, looked me right in the eye. I'm fine with one more year of Eli.

I'm like, all right, good luck with that. You sure it was dinner or did you go for drinks? It was dinner. Oh, man. Last one watchable is Pats at the Dolphins. It's a game they either win 38 to 13 or they somehow lose 24 to 14. And that's been the case for the entire Brady era. You never know.

Which when the Dolphins like just inexplicably lingering in the playoff picture, even today, Josh Allen, last play of the game, fourth down. I think they're on like the 25. Does this incredible Paul Crew, longest yard scramble, somehow breaks free, has a guy, whips it down, but leaves it like a yard short. And the guy was wide open and it would have been,

if he had gotten that touchdown, I feel like his whole career might've been different. It would have been like the launching pad for the Josh Allen era, but he left it short. He already had a hundred, he had like a OJ Simpson type rushing day for the Bills. When he had like 135 or something. He's pretty electric as a running quarterback.

But I think you're right. The Dolphins don't go away. They don't go away in games, and they don't go away in the playoff picture. They're just 6-6 right now. The fact that they're 6-6 is incredible. I mean, even the start of the year, the first game they won, remember it got suspended for like five hours. Remember they lost the electricity?

Everybody forgot the game was on. It was like the Dolphins have scored. It was like eight at night. Maybe we should be rooting for them more because we still don't have a team that we're excited to bet against in the playoffs. We need one of these six seeds to mix things up a little bit. I'd love Tannehill going to Houston or going to Pittsburgh or something. I would enjoy Washington or Philly.

Getting that six seed would be fun. At the six, yeah. What's weird is we're not going to have a weak four seed for once. Right. This has to be the first playoff that the top four seeds are actually all pretty confident. Right.

We don't have, unless somebody might get hurt. We still have a month to go. Yeah, like what's the Shakeys game? The Shakeys is always the first Saturday wildcard game. Yeah. And we go to Shakeys for a banquet, and it's usually like Bengals-Texans, which is a not good Bengals-Texans matchup.

I don't know what it is this year. They're going to have their hands full. Do you make it Chargers-Texans or what do you do? I think you're sleeping on how kind of mediocre a Baltimore-Houston game would be. Baltimore-Houston? Yeah, that's a pretty bad game.

If it's that, I guess that is. That's not a great one. But yeah, if Chicago's in there, that's fun. Dallas, if they're the three seed, that one's fun, or the four seed? Yeah, that's what I mean. We need someone to root again. We have to get excited to bet again.

The Pats. I don't see it yet. I have the Pats minus four over the Dolphins. What did you say, four? Yeah. I said three and a half. I was way off. You're not as off.

And it's eight. Oh, really? How could that be with their history? They're going to sit with this game all the time, don't they? Gronk is officially like, well, you know this. You have old relatives. Yes. Like it's icy outside.

Your uncle's had three drinks and now he's leaving the restaurant. But he's like oh watch him careful who's got him who's walking out with Uncle Joey that's Gronk every time he goes over the middle now I just want him to just get up and not he took one a day and it was like that's it that was the last set of his career

he's never playing again he took one on the hip and he kind of hobbled off his body language before that he plays like he's on my one in 12 team. Right now he's playing like he's leading a real one in 12 team. He's not, you're going to play, you're going to probably the AFC championship. He's taken it. I mean, if he keeps playing for five more years,

it'll end up being like an Antonio Gates type thing where we were Kyle and I were watching the chargers today and they Gates was wide open across the field. It was right. And just lumbering down. It's like 50 years old. But I think that's, that's where Gronk is unfortunately headed. So it's funny. You won by two touchdowns today. I didn't feel like it. I was sure you were going to win by 40. I thought you were going to rub it in. I thought you were going to have good arrow pass and was going to score

three touchdowns. You're like, yeah. Remember he was your kick returner? Yeah. Remember he was your third string receiver? He just scored three touchdowns as our running back. It didn't happen, at least for a while. We grinded the game out. I didn't feel comfortable really the whole game.

10-10, it really felt like it was headed for a 13-10 thing. With that said, I've been talking a lot of trash on the ringer slack because this Pats team is not even really that good. The pass rush looked pretty good today. They can throw the ball a little. Brady's pretty – can't say he's the most accurate anymore. It doesn't seem like he has the arm strength to really throw it downfield like he used to. And he doesn't move in the pocket at all anymore.

He just throws the ball away if he thinks he's going to get hit. I still think it's just lining up for them to make the Super Bowl again. So my new thing is, even when we suck, you can't beat us. What do you think of that? We're not even that good and we're still making it. You can't even... Are you making us look like we're going to be a t-shirt? We're trying to give you guys a chance to be in the Super Bowl

and you can't take it. Well, fine, we'll take it again. We'll make it. We'll bring our 41-year-old quarterback and our broken down tight end and our hodgepodge defense and Cordero Patterson and Josh Gordon, who's, you know, God

knows when that's going to end, when the clock's going to strike midnight. We'll take Edelman coming off knee surgery, Chris Hogan coming out of witness protection. We'll take this hodgepodge team and we'll be back in February trying to beat us again.

We suck and we're still going to make it. Yeah. That's my, that's my t-shirt. I want to do. I'm really rooting for the dolphins. I really am. No,

but this is it. This is it. They turn it on and you don't even realize it's December. And, uh, the elf on the shelf is alive and kicking. And then here come the Patriots. Like they're, I think they're nine-1 in December games, the last 10,

and 9-1 against the spread in their last 10 December games. And now it's Buck, Watson, Rogers, Mahomes, and Cousins have all gone to Foxborough and come up empty-handed. It's pretty impressive. The Pats, at the very least, have been able to take care of business at home. And that's been the case for most of this decade

in a real way, no matter what kind of team they have. The fans are always... The Gillettes really stepped it up the last few years. On the road, I have no idea what to make of this team. But we might not see it.

They might be like a two-seed again. I mean, shit, that might be the one seed. At Miami, at Pittsburgh, home for the greatest athlete of all time, Josh Allen, and then home for the Jets in week 17. Right. Yet again, they're going to go 13-3 or 12-4. If you go by this week, I'll just say I wasn't impressed with the Chiefs defense,

and I don't know what I saw from the Steelers tonight. That was just stupid. So there you go. Patriots making their move again. Well, you know I like this stuff. I did notice in the post-game interviews that the Chargers were doing the whole we knew we could win this game

in the locker room. Everybody believed in it. That does seem like they have some good chemistry right now, that Chargers team. So they're on my radar. Let's take one more break. Let's talk about Allbirds.

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I have the Panthers by three in Cleveland. What do you have? Yeah, that makes sense. Three or four. I had four. It's plus one. Panthers by one. Really?

Yeah. Huh. I kind of like the Browns. I'm not buying. Oh, you do? You thought they were better by three, but you like the Browns? I have a Nick Semichub. Not a full chub, but Nick Semichub.

Chargers home for the Bengals. What was the guy's name? Jeff Driscoll? What's your Jeff Driscoll scouting report today? He was terrific. I don't know. I didn't watch a ton of that game, but it didn't look like they could move the ball, really.

They had the A.J. Green injury? Oh, right. Yeah, he went out with a toe, right? Yeah, I think they've given up, right? They're just one of the teams you have to bet against the rest of the way. One of the five and seven teams.

Mark this one down, Sal, if you get my drift. Chargers. I have the Chargers by 13 over Cincinnati. They're not going to make it that easy. I had 12, 14 and a half.

Oof. All right, they're not making it easy. Mark it down anyway. Steelers at the Raiders. Raiders a tiny bit frisky. Wee bit frisky today. Steelers just... Not frisky.

Not. Defense, unfrisky. De-frisky. I had the Steelers by 11 in Oakland. You jerk. You're killing me again. I had 13. Because I figured Chiefs were 14 and a half. Steelers could be 13,

but it is 11 and a half. I should mark this one down too? I don't know. The Steelers have lost two straight now. Are they going to lose three straight? They're not losing three straight. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but they go to Oakland.

It's not, it's not a party. Can I, have I told you about Nephew Kyle and Josh Gordon? No, I don't think so. He loves Josh Gordon.

I love Josh Gordon. And I think part of it is because in another, in another world, they'll definitely hang out. I'll let you know, it could all be okay.

In the off season? Yeah. No matter what, it could, you can all be okay. Josh would definitely come to the dark room and hang out till two'll let you know, it could all be okay. In the off season? Yeah. No matter what, you can all be okay. Josh would definitely come to the dark room and hang out until two in the morning

on Melrose with Nephew Kyle. Really? But he loved, anytime they throw to Josh Gordon, Kyle's like, let's go, flash!

Like he just like loses it. It's hilarious. It's his soulmate. I forget which Josh Gordon catch it was, but I felt, that's when I felt the Patriots were winning the game

it wasn't a touchdown he actually seems like he's in shape now so I think it's both a great thing and a frightening thing that the person who produces this podcast his football soulmate is Josh Gordon I think they're both mysterious, Josh and Kyle

that's not a Josh anyway he doesn't look like a Josh. Josh Gordon. Fun to hang out with. Yeah, they do damage hanging out, I think. The poop fact that we're going four deep, we got the Bills at home playing the Jets. This feels like a minus three if I've ever seen one in my life.

I said three also. They're giving the Bills three and a half. Some Josh Gordon fans out there. I don't want to talk about this game. Next one. Packers with new coach, the late Joe Philbin. He died in 2014, but he's going to be coaching.

They are hosting Atlanta, whose offense died. What a weird... Well, this is what I mean about the Tony Dungy thing like this Dan Quinn guy could go soon too right yeah he should

what's the Super Bowl I guess he didn't win the Super Bowl did they win that game no they didn't win that game no they were we tried to give that one to them

and they wouldn't take it so we just took the Super Bowl Packers I have them favored by five at home against Atlanta

I said four and a half you're going to edge me out here it's six it would be funny if Rogers was like amazing on Sunday and it was clear that he was just that he was like either tanking it or just emotionally checked out he was just like scrambling around

he was just like a complete maniac in this game fist pumping I'm starting a class action lawsuit He was just like scrambling around. He was just like a complete maniac in this game. Fist pumping. I mean, if they win by three touchdowns, I'm starting a class action lawsuit because nothing will be more evident of a tank than that. I liked your other idea. Can we say what your other idea was when you were mad at Aaron Rodgers

because they didn't cover your parlay? What did I say? Yeah, you could say it. You wanted to have his brother on Against All Odds. Yeah. His brother, Jordan. Jordan, if you're listening, Sal wants to have you on Against All Odds. Yeah. His brother, Jordan. Jordan, if you're listening, Sal wants to have you on Against All Odds. I want to hear your side.

You get dismissed as the crazy brother. But yeah, I'm about to talk to you about things. Maybe lend some of your brother's money that he owes me. Lend some football insight? Yeah, be like, you lost the money anyway. You might as well be paying Jordan Rodgers to be in your pod. It's that money that you lost on the Packers goes to the Jordan Rodgers appearance.

Jordan, if you're interested, let us know. Broncos are at the 49ers. I can't imagine any scenario where the Broncos lose this game, which means don't bet on them and they'll probably lose the game. I have the Broncos by six in San Francisco. Yeah, I said five and a half. You get it. It is exactly six.

Remember that like one week when everyone was excited about Nick Mullins? Mm-hmm. And there was stuff like they exposed him on the practice squad heading in the year. And they were like just, they couldn't exhale until it was clear that they got to keep him. And it was all this stuff. And then now he's, you know what he is? He's the third street quarterback. He's Nick Mullins. He really is. I was saying the Mullins investigation

has concluded and there's tape on him and everyone's figured it out. Not in the back of being bad. Let's all stop congratulating ourselves on Nick Mullins. John Lynch, Reuben Foster, that was another one. Well, we learned our lesson. You know, you got to take

chances on talent. John Lynch, Jay Glazer was on my podcast two years ago, telling a story. I had 37 my ties with John Lynch. So there's your nine Niners jam. Nice. Lions at Arizona.

Arizona. I think you missed a game bill. We'll do this one, but I think you missed one in here. Did I? Yeah, go ahead. We'll do this one, but I think you missed one in here. Did I? Go ahead. Let's do Lions-Arizona. Let's get this crap out of the way. Let's just not talk about this for long. I had three. What do you have?

I had Lions by three. Is that what you had? It's two and a half. You missed Colts-Texans. Didn't we do that? Colts at Texans. How did I miss that one? That's at least watchable, right?

Oh, yeah, I missed that. That was in the watchables. Somehow I missed that one. My bad. I had the Texans by seven. Ooh. I had it by four, and it's four and a half. Wow.

I actually get to win one here. Six. Yeah. You win the week, but there's two more games. Yeah. That'll be a fun one. It's not going to mean anything towards the division now,

but fun. So the Texans are basically a pass rush. Deshaun Watson doing stuff and Hopkins makes three great catches per game. And that's enough to win by 15 to 20 points every game. That was an impressive win. It was sandwiched between two division games. They won an emotional Monday night game against Tennessee, and they have the Colts looking ahead to the Colts next week.

I agree. They could have easily on a short week, that could have been a field goal game and they came out and beat them up early. It was nice. I thought the two trap games this week were that. And I picked the Browns, made them one of my million dollar bets or half a million dollar bet.

And the other trap game was the Colts, which I did not bet on the Jags or make that one of my bets. Cause Cody Kessler was involved in four net got suspended, but clearly trap games in Houston handled theirs really well. And the Colts did not. bet on the Jags or make that one of my bets because Cody Kessler was involved and Fournette got suspended. Clearly, trap games, and Houston handled theirs really well in the Colts to bet. Sunday night, Rams at Chicago.

We're getting Trubisky in this game, right? He needs to start. He needs to tough it out and start, right? I like Chase Daniel. I think as your backup quarterback, he can kind of hold the fort and maybe, you know,

a couple babies will get dropped, but for the most part, you're going to get out of there alive. He's fine. But I was a little disappointed. I thought he was a little bit better. Well, I think we got, we underestimated how bad

the Lions were on Thanksgiving. Like there was six minutes left. Lions were driving to go ahead. It had nothing to do with Chase Daniel. Stafford threw a pick six and then came down to another pick in the end zone. The Rams looked terrible today. I don't know really what to make of that. Goff

was way off in that game. Did you see Gurley stop again with two and a half minutes left? He did more than stop. He ran along the end zone line. That was the move you do when you're trying to start a fight in college when you're playing a video game with somebody and you don't want to score

and you're just trying to taunt them. I really enjoyed that. That was good, but it wasn't even the right move because they had a timeout. They had a two-minute warning. He ended up scoring anyway, but they had one play.

He somehow took three more hits in a completely meaningless game. He hates fantasy owners. Yeah, he really does. I had the Rams by four in Chicago. Why is it it's not six? You got this one, too. You murdered me this week.

I said six. It's three and a half. Maybe I should be unlocking in instead of you. I don't know. Yeah, that's for sure. Anybody. Who was the king last week? Well, it was bad.

All three of us did poorly, but had the Steelers covered, I would have been king, but it was a permanent end. Oh, my God. Don't lose to that guy. 23-7 at half. Come on. Come on. We could have hedged at halftime, just for the record.

Also, if the ref can count to 10 in the Fury fight, I went. Whatever. Well, that was tough, because it really did seem like you won there for six seconds before the Undertaker rise. Rams-Bears. Right now, we always look at three-team teasers, but what is wrong with the Saints-Broncos money line parlay? Saints? Saints in Tampa? You don't like two road teams, probably.

But the Saints have to win, right? I don't like those when the Saints go and the Tampa makes me nervous. Just the history of that for some reason.

Haven't they lost there a few times? They already lost to them. I like, I want to put the Chargers and the Bengals in something. Bengals? Oh, the Chargers. The Chargers aren't losing

to the Bengals. I mean, they'll just throw the money line in there. Steelers won't lose to the Raiders. Come on. Okay. They're not going to lose to the Raiders. We need a third, though.

They might sweat it out, but... I'm with you. We need a third, and it's not going to be Falcons-Packers. I'm not touching that. I think we have to bet on... KC? No, post-McCarthy-Aaron Rodgers I want money on. Oh,

no, no, no. It would be so funny if he threw for 480 yards on Sunday as Joe Philbin's corpse was propped

on the sidelines like they had to move his hand so he could clap. That'd be great. I don't know what I don't know what I'd be more

upset about if I had the Packers and they won next week or if they lost. I'd be so pissed if they were Yeah, they're probably going to stay away. That would be incredible. Rodgers ends the year.

He just wins everybody their fantasy league who has Rodgers because he throws for like 1,400 yards in three games. Right. I'm genuinely excited for Rams-Bears. I really enjoy watching the Bears, even when they're not playing well. They finally unleashed my man Tariq Cohen, who I traded for a couple weeks ago. Traded TY for him, and then TY went nuts, and I felt like a schmuck.

And then, you know, when they go, when they kind of speed it up, and Tariq's in the backfield running like screens and wheel routes, he's kind of unstoppable. I don't know why they don't do that more. the backfield running like screens and wheel routes. He's kind of unstoppable. I don't know why they don't do that more. Like quicken the pace up and then just put him all over the field and just slants and cuts. And I thought he was incredible in that game. Trubisky had that with him.

They had a little motion going with that going early on, but yeah. All right. Monday night, Seahawks Vikings. This is a fun one. I have the Seahawks-Vikings. This is a fun one. I have the Seahawks by three and a half over the Vikings. This could do the Vikings a lot of damage. I have three and a half also, and they only

have it as three. Congratulations, you win the week. That's a tough one. I think Seattle's better. I think they're considerably better. Can I give you my Kirk Cousins thoughts really quick? Yeah, let me hear them. He's a 500 quarterback.

Yeah. He's going against your team. I can only judge it by, am I scared of this guy? I thought the moment got too big for him. He was checking down, throwing four yarders when he ended on third and 11 and stuff like that. It seemed like his eye line, as Lombardi always talks about the eye line, his eye line was where the defensive line was and not where his receivers were. And it's just like, the guy's like 30 years old.

Kind of are who you are at this point, right? I just don't see it with him. I'll never understand why they thought he was an upgrade from Keenum. I just don't see it. I would much rather have Keenum for less money. Kyle, were you afraid of him, Kyle? I'm irrationally afraid of him. I always wanted him to do well.

Really? Well, he loves Josh Gordon, so I shouldn't have asked him. Kyle thinks Josh Gordon's your quarterback. Well, then don't ask me shit then. No, I saw those names, Luck, Watson, Rogers, and Mahomes. I was like, Cousins isn't as good as any of those guys. They all lost in New England. No, Watson is 100 times scarier than Cousins.

Sure. Watson's good. Watson, he really has, you know, he came back from the ACL, but then he also had that whole lung thing, the half-collapsed lung, and he's riding around on buses. But now it really seems like he's got his mojo back. That'll be a nice – Back to Minnesota real quick.

What was with Belichick? Do you think Belichick and Thielen, do you think he's – do you think that was like, F you, you should be playing for us kind of thing, and you will be playing for us in two years? Yeah, it was courting. It was courting. That's how he does it? He sees a white receiver

on another team and if he can't have them, it's like in fourth grade when somebody has a crush on somebody and they're mean to them, but you know that means they like them.

He's mean to the girl. Yeah. You know what happened though? Thielen was mad because he thought the Pats were faking an injury to give them enough time to see if they wanted to challenge that spot or not.

Because somebody went down. So he was like, dude, it's like, come on, man. That's bullshit. Hey, come on. And doing that whole thing. And then Belichick. He was probably right. He was probably right.

Oh, he was definitely right. And then Belichick stink-eyed him and Thielen kind of walked toward him. And then Belichick came and said, shut the fuck up. Which I just loved. I fucking love Belichick. Of course. Well, he doesn't like being exposed. Exposed.

The best part is when he reaches for the challenge flag. Now he's digging in his, he's digging in his sock. It's like watching like your grandfather at the freaking slot machine in Vegas, like looking for quarters. Like he's just deep in his pockets playing pocket pool. But with a shoe horn in there. Yeah. Challenge sack. Did we do all the breaks,

Kyle? I think we did, right? Yeah, we did. All right. Let's do parent corner. What do you got,

Sal? Let's do it. well, a near catastrophe today. So I had all the kids today. We watched a football at Corolla's in his warehouse in Glendale. And I had my little one. I don't usually have my little one, my four-year-old, Harrison, but he came today.

And he's been dressing like the Hulk. He has this Hulk costume, the Hulk that he wore on Halloween. Tremendous. And he wore it. We got it, I think, October 3rd. He's worn it every single day from October 3rd to, what is this, December 2nd. And I'm not kidding like so sometimes I'll wear other things but eventually he ends up in this costume so he

thinks he's the Hulk if he gets mad at you he makes you flexes and makes the noise whatever it's funny so he's wearing the whole costume but uh uh another story is that I've been throwing him passes and he'll run the length of the couch and then jump at the end of the couch and i'll time it and i'll throw it to him and i'll catch it and um and he'll like now we do like diving catches he's only four years old it's really great and like i'll tell him he didn't catch it when he caught it and then my other son will record it in slow motion yeah and i'll show him why he didn't catch it and then i was like all right i'm gonna ask mike perera because when i was doing the college pregame show for fox i brought it to perera and he didn't catch it. And then I was like, all right, I'm going to ask Mike Pereira. Because when I was doing the college pregame show for Fox, I brought it to Pereira. And he didn't really want anything to do with it.

But anyway, I have this thing where I don't. So now we'll bring it to Corolla's. And there's a couch there. I'm like, come on, Harrison, show everybody. Now I want to show off for him. And I lead him with a pass. And he dives between the two cushions on the couch. And he's just like he catches it but the

ball goes limp i was like oh shit his arms go limp and i run up to him and between the couch cushions unlike my couch there's like a stud for some reason i think carola like makes his own furniture or something like ray for four dollars to make a couch. So he hit his head on this stud and he wasn't crying. And I'm like, holy shit, this is great. I'm trying to show off with this kid. And this is what happens.

I'm going to get in trouble with the old lady. I hope he's all right. This is nuts. And he didn't even cry, but he had a, I've never had a kid, let alone a four year old have a concussion look to him. And he did,

but it took him like a good, you know, 20 Mississippi count. And he finally like shook it off and said, Hey, can I go play with my iPad now? I was like, yeah, whatever the, if you want do it, but a scary moment for a minute. You didn't put them, you didn't take them to the blue tent. There was no tent. No, I was worried about how that was built too. So I kept them away from any tent or where else. I feel like you have like somewhere between nine and 13 of those with each kid, right?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that's a good number. Some sort of injury or something or they fall or something falls in their foot. What do you think, like three a year in those early years? Well, with boys, definitely. Yeah. I remember in a 12 month span Ben

almost had his finger chopped off on the shower door and then dropped a huge rock on the beach on his foot and just split his

toenail in half and that was within like 11 months of each other yeah they all knew you at urgent care right I remember you and Ben you guys would go a lot

yeah it was weird he never broke anything but had a lot of, you know, where they start looking side-eyed at the parents a little bit. Like, oh, you're back, huh? Oh, this time he dropped a rock on his foot. It's like, no, no, really, he did. Well, this would have been my fault. So, yeah, I was a little nervous.

I'm surprised you told that story. Yeah. My wife was cleaning out stuff on her computer and found a whole bunch of videos that my, that our kids did on her computer, not realizing that they thought they had deleted it, but they hadn't. And there's some profane language.

Kyle heard it. Profane language. Saw a couple birds. Yeah, a couple birds and them acting up, not realizing that things get saved on clouds and stuff. It was an interesting life lesson.

Here's one of the videos. This isn't that bad, but this is the kind of video I'm going to play it. Hold on. We're back with Hip Hop Disney with Eeyore. Y'all gonna make me lose my tail. That's my son doing Hip Hop Disney Eeyore, but singing it to DMX for some reason. That's all right. Just dozens and dozens of videos

that they thought they had deleted, but they hadn't. And then you realize like, oh, this is what you're doing all the time when you disappear. And just the hours and hours and hours and hours and dozens and dozens of hours. He probably did 20 takes of that.

And it really made me reevaluate my parenting style. It did? You know, like, neither of my kids can barely do math at all. But my son can do DMX as Eeyore for the hip-hop Disney. So I don't know. Is that a win or a loss for me? Because I can't remember algebra or any of that stuff that we did when we were kids. Can you solve even basic math at this point?

No, it's bad. I have to look it up on the computer now. And I got through calculus, into calculus too. And I still don't know a thing about this new math or anything. It's really bad. Yeah, this core that they have now, where they have to learn. It's an FU to parents, right? It really is. You can't help. It's an F you to parents, right? It really is.

You can't help. It's like, Hey, we've created this new math. You're not going to be able to help your kids do math. It's basically, this is all in our hands and you can't help them anywhere. Right.

You just got to fail more people, more kids because we're not going to be able to help you on her end. Well, they can go fuck themselves. Cause my kid can do an imitation of DMX and hip hop Disney as you are. So who's winning? I love it. No, they can go fuck themselves because my kid can do an imitation of DMX and hip hop Disney as Eeyore. So who's winning? I love it. No, they can make videos.

You could find them. They have Roger Goodell as a parent. Even if you find the video. Anything to plug? Yeah. Lock it in Monday through Friday. I'm on that show. 430 to 530 eastern jimmy came alive

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