The Bill Simmons Podcast - Miles Teller on Reviving Rom-Coms, Making Sports Movies, and Enjoying the Film Process (Ep. 279)

Episode Date: October 27, 2017

HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by BSMG president Eric Weinberger to discuss the Dodgers' World Series chances (6:00) and the best ballparks in baseball (14:00). Then, actor Miles Teller joins to give his thoughts on filming 'Whiplash' (35:00), what's missing in modern rom-coms (44:00), and the best parts of being in the movie business (55:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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stardom, everything. It was good. It was a good deep-dive interview. First, we're going to talk to, for the first time ever, BSMG president Eric Weinberger, diehard Dodgers and New York Giants fan. But first, Pearl Jam. BSMG president Eric Weinberger diehard Dodgers and New York Giants fan but first Pearl Jam first time ever

Eric Weinberger. Ah, man. President of BSMG. This is the best. This is the best. Two years. Yeah. Just under two years.

Yeah, but you haven't wanted to come on, but now it's like... It's not that I haven't wanted. I thought this morning was the proper invitation. I thought it was sincere. Thank you. It felt like you really wanted me on. I wasn't just filling time. This is your time.

This is the time of year. Dodgers in the World Series. Unbelievable. First time in 29 years. Unbelievable. Giant season in disarray. You were such a big Eli Manning fan that you actually named your son Eli. Eli.

Is it weird that I still think they might make the playoffs? What do you need, nine and seven? I think seven and nine. To win the NFC East or get a wild card. Did the Seahawks do that? Or was it the Saints or the Seahawks did that? No, we had a seven and nine division champ. So I'm trying to think.

So you're saying, so the Eagles offensive line completely falls apart. I think there's going to be a problem there. I mean, Giants have, it's not an easy, it's not an easy way. I think it's the Rams. I just, I don't think they're going to. But why would you want to? I said this to you in the office this week and you got angry at me.

I just don't believe in the NFL. The NFL draft is 50-50 no matter what. We got Beckham in the middle. True, you did get Beckham in the middle. I personally don't really want them to draft a quarterback. How long do you want Eli to play? I think two more years. So you don't really want them to draft a quarterback. How long do you want Eli to play? No, I think two more years.

So you don't want a replacement for him? I just don't know where that quarterback comes from. You know, I still feel like, we've talked about it, I still feel like the top seven quarterbacks in the league, that's it. I said, I quoted you, I paraphrased quoted you in my comp today. I said, you were like like there's only 10 quarterbacks that know how to do this 10 that's it and your buddy damashek agrees with me there's only 10 men in the world that can play the position so why get rid of the one with like four talk show hosts i know everyone half the people in new york and everyone thinks eli really can't do it

yeah but he still does it. Doesn't miss a snap. Giants need O-line. Maybe they don't need a running back now. Darqua could be okay. I know, I know. Seven and nine. I'm hoping for seven and nine and a playoff run. An Eli playoff run.

Washington has four offensive linemen out this week, and they could be headed the wrong way. Eagles have, I think, Tate, Peters is out. Peters is out. He's gone for the year. So he's done for the year. Yeah. You know. Cowboys?

Zeke hasn't been suspended yet. Cowboys can keep going. I'd still out-coach. You know, I'd still out-coach that team, I think. Seven and nine. I think seven and nine. I thought you would be so fired up for Chosen Rosen. You've been to, like, five maccabi games i i know i think um i think donald would be the pick okay i think he'd be

the pick you're not even kind of on the down low scouting these guys i mean you do have four kids no i had a good conversation with a trojan at uh at game two of the dodger game. Yeah. And he just thinks Donald is not put in any position to succeed right now to really show what he can do. Right. So if the Giants could end up with him, then they probably have to draft him. Or you end up with a... But they're still going to get a couple wins

and they're going to end up with the fourth or fifth pick. Or... And they won't have the quarterback there. Flip the pick. How often does that really happen? It happened with Wentz. I mean, it happened with Eli. It happened with Wentz and Goff.

Eli. It's happened, I think, six times in the last 15 years. The Giants need O-line. They're wasting a defense right now. I think they have a really good defense. They get Beckham back next year, and they draft all line i don't know i'd love to hear i mean lombardi they're not really i guess you guys they've they've gotten off the picking on the head coach thing well it's it's sad though it is sad this is the worst this is potentially the worst football giant season ever i mean it could be, it could be a 1-15 season.

Have you ever had the number one pick? Well, Eli. But you traded up for it, right? But that was a trade. Yeah. You've never actually fallen into the one pick that I can remember in my lifetime. No, but the Niners will get the number one pick, right? I feel like the low point was Pasarczyk.

Like the Giants in three weeks, I think they play at San Francisco. That could be the Francisco. That's that could be the game. That's like the Sam Donald game. But you don't even care because the Dodgers are in the World Series. That's the best. And I'm just so happy for Hershey. I'm so happy for everybody. That was the best. Tuesday night you were there. That was the best. I went to game two, but let's talk it out. I'm going to reveal something in the podcast. You're all my friends out there. Took my son. We made a big dad mistake. We got there too early.

I was really worried about the traffic getting there. What time did you get there? Got there at about 2.50. Yeah, it's early. Game wasn't starting until 5.09. Yeah. We were both on our phones. Makes for a long day.

We watched BP. We walked around. We went to the shops. My son put down a Super Dodger Dog, which I like more than the Dodger dog. You do like the super. I like the super. I like the Dodger dog. It's a great conversation.

I don't know what it is, but I like a little more. I had two game one, two game two. You know what the key with the Dodger dog is? The great mustard. Great mustard. It's a great dog. They went all out on the mustard. So by 7.30.

When did you run out of stuff to sort of talk about? No, we just went on our phones. If I started doing work emails, he's playing his video game. It was like how they used to do it in the 1920s. But he was starting to get a little tired. So we got him the big giant souvenir cup of lemonade right in time for the for the first inning which i thought was a great move game was a little longer than i expected i thought verlander i thought game would be flying no um by the seventh inning he's getting a little gamey

it's getting close to eight yep he's got flag football the next day plus school big flag football game started trying to well if we stay the whole time, might not be able to get out, might not get home till 1030. He's not in bed till 11. He's going to suck in the flag football game. Neither of us care about either team. We were just there for the game. So I figured when the Astros, 3-1, they get one run in the eighth.

And I'm like, Ben, if they tie the game, we're staying. If they don't tie the game, Kenley's got it. He's the most lights out closer in years. He's got it. We don't need to stay. We'll get out of here. Top of the eighth, three to two, we leave and we miss one

of the great World Series games of all time. You were like the headlights in the back of the Kirk Gibson home run. We were like, there's nobody there. We're just listening in the car. You were probably home by top of the 10th. Almost home for Marwan Gonzalez. Yeah, it took like 17 minutes. I know, isn't it the best?

And then there's just this home run barrage and we missed one of the great games. It's like a Mark Wahlberg kind of Boston thing. It really was. Just leaving early. Now, for the record, I never ever in a million years would have left the Red Sox game.

If it was the Red Sox won the World Series, never in a million years. I was curious because your texts, the text thread with Hershey's ended around the 7th. So I figure, you know. We know what's happened. My iPhone was running out of batteries. That was the other thing I was worried about. The iPhone running out of battery thing. Yeah.

Because I didn't know really how to get home with Waze. I was worried about that. Echo Park ends up being an episode of The Shield. No, like the Kevin Kline, like the movie. Oh, Grand Canyon? Like, where am I? Yeah. But I have a lot of regrets, and I'm really mad that my son at least wasn't there for the Quique Hernandez homework, because that was a great moment.

9th, 10th, and 11th, for young people, it's a really memorable moment. I've never really seen anything like it. I mean, the balls were just flying out of the park. Unbelievable. The Astros are awesome. They're really good. And I still don't know how I feel about even knowing

Rich Hill was coming out after the fourth inning. Like, I still... I'd love to talk to some of the guys here about... No, that was the script. Dave Roberts just plays the whole script. Fourth inning, he's out. He knows. There's no, they have no gut moves.

There's no thought that goes into it. There's no gut. It's all a script that's written out. So everyone's writing about, you know, should Rich Hill not face batters a third time? It's a tough one. He looked great. I mean, he made Altuve look so bad in those two at-bats. batters a third time. It's a tough one. He looked great.

I mean, he made Altuve look so bad in those two at-bats. For that alone, I would have had him pitch the fifth. There was no pinch hitter element to it at all. And that's what kept making the game go longer. It was a tough one. That team is really good. I don't know. I think Darvish keeps it close.

The Dodgers had two hits and they were winning 3-2. So it's not like they were hitting. They got the lucky play with the center fielder, with Taylor with it hitting him in the hat. Puig dives for it, just misses it. Still gets a little lucky that it bounces over the fence. I don't know how Hershey, now I'm a little worried. I genuinely thought Verlander was going to come close to pitching a perfect

game. It was pretty amazing. He was just mowing them down. Hitting 95. Even when he had a walk, I was like, Oh, I'm disappointed.

I really wanted like 18 up 18 down. Cause then if you can get to the sixth inning and he was like at the minimum, then you go seven, eight, nine, all of a sudden you're in the seventh. And then who knows?

And he was very low on pitches. then jock peterson just cranked them i will say to be at a game like that where the home team loses i still think everyone had i mean everyone had such a good time i stayed till the end uh did you get out people got right out people were bummed but what i mean it was so amazing what was going on it was a softball game i choked i really i choked as a parent i i got too scared by the traffic coming in and coming out and i don't think that i think the traffic's a tiny bit overrated it's a little overrated yeah because i think some people especially the world series you stay after is harder than getting out the three o'clock and after getting there at 250 though man it's a tough

one because by the time you left it was 9 30 i mean that's the thing we're there for five and a half hours my kids nine isn't it a fun place to be it was you know what's cool about it like where do you rank where do you put dodger stadium with fenway second i would say dead even dead even yeah i love dodger stadium i'm slight edge to fenway just because that's my dna but i think they bring the same things to the table. And what's cool about it is having gone to World Series games in both, the stadium feels exactly the same.

It just feels like you have the little World Series banners, but it just feels like another night at Dodger Stadium. There's something amazing about Dodger Stadium and the game being at five. Like just watching the way it goes tonight. And then watching the sunset. Yeah, yeah. I even, Fenway's amazing too. I'm surprised that you could do it dead even.

Cause I think, well, I actually think Fenway, obviously I think I would go Fenway, but I think, I think the case can be made for either side. It's awesome. And there, and there's the same amount of history. It's awesome. Fenway goes back longer, but it's further back. No, but I mean like that, he's pretty good too. Dodger stadium has, it's great. They're all great. Kof but I mean like the- Wigley's pretty good too. Dodger Stadium has- It's great.

They're all great. Kofax. They're all great and there's not that much. Like tonight's not fun in that park. No. That park's very gimmicky. So Dodgers got to get one and then just bring it back and then it'll be fun. Six and seven would be awesome.

One thing I- Hershey loves when I talk about this. One thing I've always appreciated about the Dodgers that I never realized until I moved out here is it is a team that has these generations of fans and this real history. And when Vin Scully came out before game two. So there was a lot of talk around the office about that. It's very mixed.

It was polarizing. Yeah. I liked it. I loved it. I would have gone Piazza instead of Steve Yeager, though. He'll never. Piazza. I don't think Piazza will ever be back.

He'll never come back? Wow. I mean, it's Steve. Yeager added the local part to it. Did you think when he said he needed a lefty for a minute, Koufax was in play? I don't think Koufax does it. If Koufax comes out. If Koufax comes out, it's an all-in.

I think the stadium folds over. But Fernando, that was pretty solid. That's the difference between, I think the Dodgers and the Yankees are the two teams that they can just trot out these dudes from the past that have insane amounts of weight. The Red Sox, now that Ted Williams is dead, the Red Sox don't have anybody they can bring back

from the 50s, 60s, 70s like that. Yaz just isn't at that level of Koufax. Fred Lane's not. No. No. And then the Yankees have all their old dudes. But now if you bring back Pedro.

Well, that's the thing. So as the years go on, it'll be the Pedro, it's his, Manny, yeah, that'll be the generation. Did you see Poppy

walk off the field? That's one of my favorite things too. So for games one and two, I was sitting in the left field seeing the Fox guys come off the field and seeing Poppy. They were sweating their asses off. But seeing Poppy come off

and the reception he gets wherever he goes is just the greatest thing. Bakes, I mean, she did it all justice in her article. Yeah, it was great. But watching them walk off the field, watching A-Rod walk off the field pointing to the crowd, like, it's just really pretty funny stuff. The umpire getting hit by the

pick-off throw. Yeah, you like that play. I like that play too. But that's my Red Sox DNA where if that had happened to the Red Sox during the 86 year curse, for lack of a better word, I would have thought we were going to lose the moment that play happened. Oh my God. Oh no. Dodger

fans aren't wired the same way because you guys have had some couple. I just think it was such an awesome game with so many home runs. I don't think anyone was really dwelling on it. I'm amazed by what good spirits you're in. Well, I just... It was a fun...

I think this is terrifying. If I'm a Dox fan, I'm terrified. It is terrifying. Because even if the Astros won two or three, now you come back for game six and wouldn't that be Verlander? Or are they going to throw him in five? So Verlander can go five he's got to go six right keitel keitel and kershaw go five and then seven if in some part of seven where they need him i love dave roberts but i thought he

over managed game two i just when you're just out of pictures in the ninth inning that's like there's not a great place to be. Like there's the question, Stripling should have pitched to one more batter. Maro should have pitched to three. There's always the debate of the Kenleys. Mariano, those guys, do they really have to go two innings? Yeah. Kenley had the whole thing, though.

He had it. He had it. It was one pitch. That's why I left. I've watched Kenley all year. It's over when he goes into the ninth of the lead. That's the thing, though. I'm not mad at you for leaving. I mean, it's, you know. I'm Kenley all year. It's over when he goes into the ninth of the lead. That's the thing though. I'm not mad at you for leaving.

I mean, it's, you know. I'm mad at myself. Yeah. I honestly. I'm being a little too respectful about it. I love the, you probably are. I like my job. I love, I love watching my son play flag football and I didn't want to compromise it anyway.

I really felt like an 11 o'clock comeback was going to screw him up. He's a curfew now that he's a football player. He's a professional athlete now. He has a huge game next day. He's an athlete. Big game against Browerman. Big game against Browerman and he broke a full field TD. I feel like it's because we left early. It's amazing.

I love this. I love doing this. This is just nice to see the perspective. What's distracting is when Mallory just walked by and and i got a little thrown off so last thing romo great let's talk about romo you so just background for the listeners you basically launched the nfl network and did every kind of studio show slash product produce show that they did game you've done all of it. Everything you're doing, the studio show on Thursday nights, all of it. Romo is bringing something to the table that I was hoping he would bring.

A level of candor and being unafraid to criticize people in not like a mean-spirited way, but just like in a really questioning, curious way. Sense of humor. He's brought out this whole personality of Nance that has kind of been dormant for 10 years. I think he's been phenomenal. What are your thoughts? I think he's been great. I think the predicting the play has been this added element.

So do you like it, or would you tell him to tone it down? No, I do like it. And I think he has toned it down a little bit. I think the guys there have, I think after the tone it down. No, I do like it. And I think he has toned it down a little bit. I think the guys there have, I think after the first two weeks. Basically like pick your spots. Yeah, it was getting a little too much. Yeah.

You know, it's watching a game, Marshall Falk did the same thing, watching a game with him. He predicted the play. Yeah. And I bet you Peyton can do that. But not predicted in a know-it-all way just predicted

in a like i see the way it's lined up this is the way it's got to go and i think that's where tony and and jim nance have figured out what to do yeah um not like it's not outsmart the viewer and and tip things off it's just what you see um he's learning how to articulate he's been great and he's a lot of fun i didn't really see the end last night when the cat ran on the field was he funny when the cat i heard i heard the clip on the radio this morning it's pretty funny yeah so it's that kind of fun stuff too that you know i feel like i feel like gruden does it too you and i disagree i think a little bit on what gruden does yeah i am i am so less excited about Gruden than you are. No, I think the top broadcast booths are in a good place right now.

There's a little something for everybody. But Romo's been amazing. I mean, he's been amazing. I think Romo and Smoltz are way, way, way, way up there. I wish there was an NBA version of it, and there's just not. Steve Kerr was probably the closest. Kerr was great. But Smoltz is,

he's not funny like Romo is, but I really trust his opinions. I feel like when Grant Hill is working with Nance on the tournament, I think he tries to do it. I always thought Doug Collins did what Romo does, but in a little bit more of a serious way, like, hey, I see this and you don't.

But Doug can predict the play, especially like inbound plays at the end of the game. Like he can really predict it. I think that's really helpful. Yeah, I agree. Because it helps you watch it. Doug, I spent a year with Doug. I mean, he's-

Amazing. He's so passionate about hoops. He almost, he can't turn it off even like when you're just hanging out in a conference room with him. He's just always like that. He just loves it. And I think Romo's like that too.

Romo just loves football. And he's giddy about it. He loses for me. Yeah, it's genuine. Yeah, there's a lot of guys that are like that. Mayock was like that. Mayock didn't predict the play. He could have predicted probably every play.

He did more on the back end. And then it got real cerebral in X and OE. And he was amazing at it. But this is fun. I wish I saw the cat thing. Tate, did you see the cat thing? It was good. I wrote a little about Gruden today.

I think my issue with him is I think he wants to coach again. And I think he holds back. And I don't think there's any other opinion other than that one. If he was 100% sure he wasn't coaching again, I think he would announce differently. I think he's living a good life. And I think he's too far removed at this point to go back. You tried to hire him once, right? Yeah.

Yeah. We had him, right when he got fired, we had him do the combine, the draft. We thought maybe he was going to be the Thursday night football voice. Then he got the job at Monday night football and it really was best for everybody. I mean, it was best for football getting him in the booth Romo has discombobulated your theory which is that

when a guy retires they need to get the reps like go take your time go do a bunch of hits all over the place it's pretty unbelievable how quickly and how hard CBS has worked to just get him going right away. No NFL Europe, no C-team, D-team, whatever you call it. I know how hard they have had to have worked

to get him to do what he's doing at the level he's doing it at. So that's what's pretty, the support system that he has is pretty amazing. Who do you think was the most talented guy who got rushed too soon, who if they had taken their time, he would have just been awesome? I think Tiki got rushed pretty fast. And I liked when he was in the booth a couple weeks ago with his brother. Him and his bro. I agree.

I think that's one of the better teams. I think Tiki's circumstances, even that was studio. Yeah. And he had to sit next to Collinsworth and Sterling Sharp. And those guys had been doing television for so long. And he was doing the Today Show. I just think he got rushed way too fast. He was going to be so good.

Is there an example of somebody who put in the reps and took their time and then blossomed? I mean, Collinsworth wasn't thrown in there right away, right? I'll tell you, in baseball, Harold? Yeah. I mean, he was at ESPN in the early 90s. He's worked so hard. I mean, I catch him now after games on MLB Network. He's amazing.

I think the booth was maybe a little bit of a stretch. Booth wasn't that great, yeah. That was a tough one. It's really tough being in the booth. It's just really tough. It's so one. It's really tough being in the booth. It's just really tough. It's so quick. It's really hard to do. The best guys have sort of a mix of humor,

the humility that comes with it, like Madden. Yeah. That makes it an easier transition. If you're too serious, it's hard to do. They've never really figured out baseball teams in the booth, especially with a national broadcast. What the mentality is of it? Is it supposed to be entertaining?

I mean, Joe and Smoltz is pretty amazing. Well, that's the thing. It's really pretty amazing. Joe McCarver was amazing. I think Joe and Smoltz is really the first time I can remember liking a national team. I liked when Ron and Ripken were doing it on TBS together. I actually thought Ron Darling still,

he did a great job alone. I liked when the two of them did it together. I didn't mind Ron Darling. I like Burkhart. I've never heard him with the right partner. I just like Burkhart in general. I think he's really good. He's amazing.

And the fact that he can bounce from the booth to the studio is pretty strong it's tough though you're doing three hours you can't be like mystery science theater you gotta use the advanced metrics

but you can't do it in a way that would antagonize people like my dad right it's kind of a thankless job I've never really understood what the sideline reporter is there for

you're right about your dad like my dad I was at the game with my dad who's been a Dodger fan since brooklyn he didn't understand the whole four inning thing the rich hill thing he just didn't understand it i still don't completely understand it i don't understand it and and the other guy that we were with he was saying before the game even started rich hill is pitching four innings that's it no matter how many pitches he's pitching four innings and that's what the pre matter how many pitches. He's pitching four innings. And that's what the pregame radio shows were saying. He's pitching

four. And that's the script they went with. It seemed really smart when they went up three to one. Three to one on two hits. It's a good series. It's a great Dodger team. It's a really fun team. It's a great atmosphere.

It's great. Sal and I were talking on Tuesday. We ended up betting the Astros for game two. So you bet the series and each game? Didn't bet the series. Why don't you do that? Because I didn't know who was going to win. I really kind of wanted to see what would happen in game one.

And then we started thinking about the sweep heading into game two, and the odds were terrible. They were like five to one. So then we just went. We were like, ah, let's ride Verlander's ride you always do things together the two of you we like to yeah yeah we like fun but here's where it gets great we parlayed the astros with the dolphins plus three and a half which was over and then we had our usual round of text about whether we should hedge or not and take the ravens sounds like no no we no, no, we're good, we're good. And the Dolphins get shut out. So that was it. So we ended up losing.

This is why I'm bad at gambling. But yeah, if I had to bet on it right now, I would bet on the Dodgers still. And the odds are probably even. But I wouldn't bet on it, though, because I think the Astros just, they have too many dudes, man. These guys come up and it's like, oh, that guy's scary.

Oh, that guy's scary. Uh-oh. I was telling you about Gonzalez. I was always scared of him against the Red Sox. The stats don't even back it up, but I think he's clutch sometimes. With the team they put together. Even Springer hitting that home run. Springer went to Avon Oldfarms.

There's no reason that guy should be leading off a World Series team. Avon Oldfarns. And then Bregman, Jewish baseball player from Albuquerque. Bregman's Jewish? Yes. Oh, yeah. Where does he go in the rankings? He's talked about at every event.

Where does he go in the rankings right now? Don't know yet. But he is an amazing baseball player. Is he the best Jewish baseball player right now? Right now? Yeah. I wouldn't even know. The Sean Green.

Did he win the Sean Green Award? The Sandy Koufax Award. The Koufax. No, Koufax needs an even bigger award. And then Altuve and Correa are incredible. Altuve's so good when he has a bad at bad, it's like shocking. It's almost like he has it on purpose to mess with the

ump or set the tone with the ump. It's really interesting what he does. But it's going to be fun. I'm hearing a rap in my ear. I feel like this has gone on too long. Yeah, this is, we're done. What do you do on Halloween, though, is my last question. Halloween.

You have four children. Four children. You're including two children. But on Halloween, it's really three of four. Jack doesn't. Right. Jack won't trick or treat. Teenager.

He'll be at some party. But you have three kids that love Halloween. Love it. And we live in a neighborhood that people love Halloween. They love Halloween. Dodgers game six is on Halloween, in case you didn't know. Yeah. It's going to be a tough one.

Are you going to go? I have to sit outside. They like sitting outside and greeting everyone. So you can't go to Dodger Stadium? We haven't ruled that out yet. That's not ruled out. What are the Vegas sides? I can't talk about that yet.

What are the Vegas sides? I don't even know what I should put it at. Whose favorite? Is the house favorite over Dodger Stadium? My dad flies back out for game six. He had such a good time. He had such a good time. There was a fist fight next to him.

He loved it. And I actually sort of enjoyed it because I was sort of in the middle of it. Just breaking it up. I was at the opposite end of the, you know, did you see the video now with the guy who jumped into the bullpen? Yeah. Did you see that?

Yeah. Why did he do that? I have no idea. But someone got it. But he jumped in. It feels like it should be harder to jump into the bullpen than that. It's pretty easy. Yeah.

He just climbed in and jumped in. I think I'm not going on Halloween. I think I have to be. You have four kids. You can't ditch them. Halloween is the kid holiday. I love Halloween. I really love it.

I can't believe I'm in it. Last question. Yes. Biggest character you ever worked with, Warren Sapp or Mallory Rubin? Very different. Mallory is the most, you know, in her knowledge of different areas. I mean, she is. She's like a savant.

Yes. To go thrones to football. To college football. To college football. To baseball. To whip. But I will tell you, Warren knew everything about football. He would know every movie. I mean, he's pretty up to speed on everything that's going on.

But yeah, Mallory's the, Mallory's number one. Wow, that's big. It went for the ring. It's really big for Mallory. This is fun. You'll do this again. This is really fun. I'd like to do it with, like, I'd like to see how House does it.

Okay. I've never really observed how the non, you know, the FOBs, the Friends of Bill. Okay, come in. Maybe you start diving does it. Okay. I've never really observed how the non, you know, the, the, the FOBs, the friends of bill. I, I've come in. Maybe,

maybe you start diving. I hope I didn't ruin you. You know, this is like, I'm, I'm keeping it warm for house. Eric Weinberger. Thank you.

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Yeah. He's got two major Friday. Miles Teller is here. Yeah. He's got two major studio movies coming out a week apart. Yeah. That can't be intentional, right? No, I mean, yeah, it's not ideal for me, but I think Universal had the date, October 27th, and then, yeah, Sony put it October 20th. I don't know.

Do you feel like you have two kids? It's like having twins? I don't know. Do you feel like you have two kids? It's like having twins? I don't know. From what I hear about having kids, I think it's nothing like that. Because I'm sleeping all right, despite. Yeah, that's true. Opening weekend, I was saying, is my least favorite part. Because they show you tracking numbers and all these things.

And it's like, man, you just hate that. It's like you make the movie movie and then all these people mess with and they market a certain way and sometimes not on these but sometimes you're looking at the marketing like that's not our movie yeah i feel like that was kind of the case for uh for bleed for this or i'm watching all these spots i'm like they're really pumping this like it's this high adrenaline like um you know boxing you know sports almost like a creed and it's like dude we you know we made that movie for less than five million dollars again basically it's more like the fighter i think it was similar and you know similar in tone that's interesting yeah once you're done on the set it's basically

it goes out into the world and you kind of help us you can do some interviews for it but that's it yeah i mean i'll like i'll come into a podcast yeah know, cause that's fun for me. Yeah. Like this one. Um, so only the, only the brave comes out. I guess we're taping this on Friday. So today. Cool. But all over the world.

And then next week, thank you for your service. Yeah. October 27th. That's right. Which, which is, that's the one,

go see him. That's the one you really had to, did you like how much like physical stuff what was the preparation for that yeah it was funny we did uh actually for both movies we had a we had a boot camp and for thank you for your service i was i was trying to i mean i was getting in pretty good shape you know um i felt like whatever i had retained from from playing vinnie paz uh you know came came in handy but look those, those guys, it's just, I mean, for that, it was as much mental training as it was physical.

They ran us through a boot camp with, you know, highly decorated Special Forces guys, a Master Chief in the Navy SEALs. And it was like, you know, that scared straight show back in the day where all these Hollywood kids come in and you don't know what to expect. And I'm like, oh, it's Rumiya. And they're like, get on the floor!

Get on the ground! And then they're like, yeah, you know, give us your cell phones. This is the Hollywood version. They're like, no talking to your agents, your publicists, you're in my world now. Stay off Twitter. Yeah.

We're like, no! Oh, my God, Snapchat. Give me your Instagram login. All your followers are done delete your account all right too far you can keep your account how do you pick what movies you're going to be in do you have like a big picture career plan or is it just movie by movie because you've hit some of the staples like you made your boxing movie already this is the kind of soldier slash war movie all these like young actor things you're kind of hitting,

but I don't know if it's intentional. No, I think, you know, maybe when I first started out, I kind of had a bit of a, you know, a scheme to the whole thing or a plan. I just remember seeing like Shia LaBeouf. He was, you know, pretty close in age to me and he was doing some projects

and I was like, oh, I need to get my, you know, I want to do my Guide to Recognizing Your Saints and then, you know, Disturbia to get my, you know, I want to do my guide to recognizing your saints and then, you know, a Disturbia. And then, you know, someone like Spielberg's going to see me and then I'll touch on the big box office studio thing. And that's just not how it really goes. And it's interesting. I mean, I've been able to maintain a footing in like the independent film world as well as, you know, studio fair and doing comedies and some other things and i think for me the only plan i have is to hopefully not not repeat myself and to uh be versatile you know

that's just always something i wanted to to do you know i felt like i was an actor and you know i'm an actor so i should be able to do comedy and i should be able to do drama and don't get pigeonholed too early i know i noticed that was something that was easy to do like you start doing comedies people just want you to do the same thing and so that was really that's really the only intention i have when you say people what kind of people agents or studio the suits man suits and also just uh audiences right i mean for an actor like your your career is you're in charge of it to a certain to us a limited extent when you when you first out. And then hopefully as you kind of build a resume, then you're able to kind of steer it a little bit.

Yeah. So Whiplash, you luck out because you hit this director who is about to become this comet. And it's such a cool movie. I was blown away by that movie. Yeah. But it seems like you knew it early. No, I mean, honestly, it I, it's like, so what,

I think it was like filming, filming Divergent in the year before I just, I'd done four films in the, in the previous like calendar year. And up to that point it was like five and like 15 months or something. It's kind of, you know, whatever, a little, little burnout. And yeah, then I got the, I got the script for it and I was like, man, this is going to be a lot. But yeah, look, I mean, the director, Damien, he hadn't really directed anything before that. He had Guy and Girl on a Park Bench, I think was the name of it.

But yeah, this was the first thing. And were you guys the same age, basically? He's a little older than I am. Yeah, but we, you know, that's the other thing I'll say is like, you don't know when you're filming a movie. Um, so for me, it's like I sign up for a movie because I want that experience, you know, whatever it is,

like I'm, I'm into it and I want that. I want to go through that for those couple months. But with whiplash, I mean, we filmed it for 19 days and I remember the first scene that we did 19 days, 19 days, like two and a half million bucks.

Yeah. So we were flying just for perspective. Thank you for your service. Like 42 days. Yeah. Only the brave was probably, you know, mid fifties or something. Yeah. bucks yeah so we were flying just for perspective thank you for your service like 42 days yeah only the brave was probably you know mid 50s or something yeah uh be at 19 days and if you were to tell me while we were filming it that this movie would get nominated for best picture and jk was going to win the oscar for it i you know honestly had no idea because we were just moving

so fast and i think clooney has a quote about it like you can't you can make a bad movie out of a good script you can't make a good movie out of a bad script and i knew that the potential for whiplash just reading i knew the stakes were were up there and it's rare to get a movie that is like a lot of movies you can read the script you say even if we do the best version of this it's like a you know on a whatever scale it's like a six yeah you know we can do the best version of this we'll make some people laugh but we're not really you know moving the needle and so that one i just knew that we had the potential of it and then it was a matter of you know if we if we filmed it you had the drumming skills right yeah i mean i mean like enough to fake it yeah uh yeah i mean

i guess because you know the movie worked but i it's like i played drums in some you know florida garage rock bands florida is known for their like very shitty version of rock you know you know we were i mean we covered some metallic but we're also covering like a creed song and you know we first started out just playing just playing you know bullshit whatever but also jazz like jazz's percussion uh it's the highest form of percussion you know really is or whatever, but also jazz, like jazz is percussion. It's the highest form of percussion, you know, really is in the skillset required. Even just holding the stick is completely different. I never used my left hand like that.

And I had, I think two weeks to go from a, like I could sit in on a Bob Seger cover band, you know, it's like I could sit in on a, on a bar kind of rock band and stuff. But no, that was a, I was very nervous about that because the whole movie kind of hinged on me being able to sell it we didn't have we had a drum double that just i think there's like one or two shots of his hands but other than that i have to be close enough to match that's one of my favorite stupid hollywood subjects is actors who had to quickly learn some really hard skill yeah young blood with rob lowe yeah a 80s sports movie I wouldn't call it a classic

wouldn't call it a classic hockey movie you're quoting it 40 years later so maybe it is a classic there's only like 5 hockey movies anyone who likes hockey movies there's 5 so they taught him how to skate before the movie and he's playing like this

Connor McDavid, Sidney Crosby type of you know hockey forward but he didn't know how to skate like i don't know a month before they started the movie but it's actually he they fake it passable yeah exactly swayze was the one i mean oh nice i might have to see this young but solid those little hands me that vhs copy as i leave the room it's the best junior hockey movie ever made cool yeah they i love when they have to learn stuff though what else did you you never had another movie you had to like learn a skill right i think a lot of boxing that was something that and that's just how it goes you're like you're

usually um you know at any given time it's like you're about to film a movie so you're in like pre-production on a movie and then you have um you know a movie that you're you know that you're in like pre-production on a movie and then you have, um, you know, a movie that you're, you know, that you're promoting and then, you know, you're, you're in a couple of places at once. And for bleed for this, I remember, I remember getting the call that like, and I only had, I think I only had five weeks or something after I finished a movie before I was going to be in, um, in, uh, in, in Rhode Island to film venue story. And I remember getting a call saying, well, you have to, it was like just a couple of weeks,

two, three weeks before. And I already felt very vulnerable in this boxing thing. I only had five weeks and I had to go to London and I had to, it was like whiplash and we're at the BFI London Film Festival

in Deauville in France and all these things. And yeah, you start getting pretty, you start feeling pretty nervous late on the prep, but you got to do it. I saw a bleed for this. i didn't see it till got to the on-demand cable part of it sure which i think probably is most people now just with i know man people just wait we have nice tvs i know just kind of wait how many movies do you think you've seen the theaters a

year not many yeah not four yeah maybe yeah yeah it would have to be the theater would almost have to add to the experience for me at this point but i'm also i'm older i have kids like you know when i was younger i went to the movies all the time yeah same i was like are guys not taking girls on dates i don't think so movies it's netflix and chill you just like come over and i mean it's not a bad move well you know it's like i got a big tv because it was like i remember my boy in college like he like he still has his dvd tower and he honestly he's used he's like 32 and he's using it as like a decoration or something like dude there's nothing cool about having a dvd tower that's full of dvds i remember that started to change when dvds kind of made a run 96 97 i wasn't married

yet i was dating and that you could feel the power of bring somebody over we'll rent a dvd yeah yeah we'll get take out yeah you kind of have invert versus like actually being out in the in the universe but yeah i feel like horror movies are still fun to see in the theater horror movies like the movie this both of the movies you just made uh-huh i think our movies i would want to see in a theater well that's good that's cool i hope i hope uh you know america agrees with your taste and like american sniper was a theater movie america yeah and american sniper did i mean freaking i think like it was like 400 billion dollars yeah i think worldwide did like 700 million dollars or something and we have the writer from that uh he wrote and directed our film but yeah and also i think you know movies is one of the because you have you know directors

really pulling from both sides you have certain directors saying like look this is the way it's going have a movie come out in theaters and then have people pay a premium uh for it to come on their tvs earlier you know whatever it is like three weeks or six weeks they're talking about, you pay 50 bucks for it, you invite people over and you see it. But it's also, I mean so much weird shit is happening in the world all the time. I think people are nervous just that public

kind of collective experience people are a little shy from. Well, people also behave badly in movie theaters too. I mean, they're on their phone, the lights are always on. I'm always aggravated half the time and they're trying trying to get aggravated i think i'm just like no he's like yeah i get this bright light coming out of the right corner of my eye when i'm trying to watch this pivotal scene it's annoying yeah people behave badly well and i think and i do i mean i think need to, you know, they need to pump some more movie into theaters.

It's like, do I want to see a movie at the Arclight? Yeah, absolutely. That's, you know, we're in Hollywood where Arclight's just a very nice movie theater. But it's like, yeah, but then do I want to see it at this other one kind of right down the street from me that's kind of, you know, a little run down? No, I think then you're right. It's like, I'd rather just kind of watch it at my house but i've seen more than four now that i'm thinking about it okay baby driver i had to see in the theater uh-huh fast eight okay john wick two john wick two i like action i like the action movies i

think there has to be a reason but like all right so that awkward moment you know michael b jordan who's the third person yeah michael b deli is what we're calling him in new york because i could go to a deli and come out with like something way off the menu that just tastes delicious like here's a bagel with cream cheese and jelly with bacon yeah michael b deli who's the third person huh who's the third person uh zach zach efron so that movie didn't do well in the theater and yet i would say at some point everybody saw it sure right uh yeah um why are you making a face no i'm just saying i do not like this movie no my wife likes this movie my wife's gonna get mad if you don't like this movie i love that movie um you know that experience

like i said that's what you take away from it and it's not like you know if a movie does really well at the box office it doesn't change i don't then reflect on the experience and it kind of changed the experience so um but yeah look i mean and then even something like war dogs you know i was like oh todd phillips jona hill's movie's gonna crush and it's about gun runners and all that stuff and then uh yeah and then that one kind of underperformed and you know i don't know you can't get a can't get a handle on it but yeah it does seem like people you know people will see it um but but it does you know you're like i sign on for a movie because i believe in it so you know you want to champion it and cheer it on and sometimes when it doesn't kind of do its thing but yeah i get a lot of awkward moment from people on

the on the streets so i i feel like people i know a lot of women who like that movie oh cool defend it cool it's kind of weird that a movie we kind of made it for dudes well they came over it somehow became in that rom-com world yeah i don't know yeah but it's weird that hopefully those come back back in the day you know it's like chevy chase and steve marron and billy crystal and these it was like romantic comedies had everything you had the romance you had the drama, you had the comedy. And to me, that formula works. I think they ran out of ways

to make the same rom-com over and over again. We have some rom-com excess people in The Ringer. And the glory years were the 90s. You know, where you had

Coming Up for When Harry Met Sally, just this whole decade of all these type of movies. But it was almost always this career-obsessed woman who can't find time for love, and she's a little crazy, but you're kind of buying in. That's my Tootsie.

Yeah, yeah, basically. But I think they did every version of it. I don't know what's left. Now you have to do almost the 2017 version of it, which has to go a whole other level, and I don't know how that happens. Plus, everybody just watches... I mean, Devil Wears Prada came out like 11 years ago.

That one's kind of the last gigantic rom-com. Even though it's more of a rom-com, it's actually a good movie, but it's got the elements, you know? Yeah, I'm trying to think. I think, yeah, Crazy Stupid Love was one that came out not that long ago that did well.

But it's all writing, right? And I feel like... It sounds like you want a rom-com. Huh? It sounds like you're ready. You're throwing your hat in the ring. I would do one. It's just, my hat's in all...

I'm trying to keep a hat in every ring just so I'm like, you know, I'm in the game. What's Spitbot? So you haven't made a Philly native movie yet, right? Have you made a movie in Philly? No, not... That's where you're from originally, Pennsylvania. Hopefully they make the garbage picking Philadelphia Eagle Phenomenon

with Tony Danza. Do you remember that? Of course. Oh, dude. But yeah, no, Boston's in vogue. All the movies right now, it used to be New York. It was all New York, New York, and now it's just like everything's in Boston. For TV, it's Chicago movies right now, it used to be New York. It was all New York, New York. And now it's just like everything's in Boston.

For TV, it's Chicago. For movies, it's Boston. Yeah. I don't know what Philly did. Florida. I don't know what Philly did. Florida people just stay away from. They're on the news.

Yeah. Yeah, they're covering the news for everyone. Enough happens in Florida. Other states don't even need a jail. But there's two types of Florida movies. There's like the movie that takes advantage of Miami, like Bad Boys or pain and gain those were war dogs even yeah we filmed on there south beach becomes like a character right and then there's like those sweaty florida keys type movies like that denzel movie when he's the sheriff having the i forget what that one's called one

of those denzel movies but or like wild things with nev camp and Matt Dillon the Keys, it's sweaty you're just kind of out there that's more of Florida than I grew up in yeah, you grew up in the Keys not in the Keys, no, I grew up in central Florida but just that kind of you know, people are just almost too comfortable in their own skin

you go to Walmart after midnight and you're seeing some you know, some specimens for sure so do you think the florida jokes are completely deserved or could we go further 100 you can you can go further corolla always used to play this game florida or germany that became like a staple in his radio show yeah that started when we worked together at a kimmel show he would just grab these stories and we would have to guess which one and we could never,

you know, it was almost impossible. Florida seems like it's getting weirder too somehow. You know, it's global warming, man. Is that what it is? I think it's just global warming. As it heats up, you know, the sweat starts coming in and people start getting a little, you know, radioactive. How many years did you live there?

I moved there from South Jersey when I was 12. And then I did middle school and high school there. So I was there, uh, yeah, seven, I think it was seven years, six, six through 12. But you're a Philly sports fan. Yeah. I was born in the Northeast kind of, I was born outside of, uh, outside of Philly and then kind of bounced around. And then South Jersey, I was an hour and a half to the vet. You know, my dad's entire family's from Eastern PA. My mom's from South Jersey and that's just all Philly. So you're a self-loathing sports fan, basically. I'm all right.

You're all right? No, I mean, we're self-loathing. All my Philly fans are self-loathing. Yeah, and I think Philly fans actually, at a certain point, they're almost like imitating themselves. You know, it's like Philly, when you go in the Northeast, look, you meet a girl at the bar, and she can tell you five relief pitchers, you know, everyone's just kind of in touch with what's going on, even if your team, you know, isn't playing well,

but the whole, and the whole booing thing, I'm like, dude, if you don't, I don't know a single stadium that doesn't boo their team when they're like underperforming or they make a mental error or something like that. Like they're going to boo, but Philly fans have kind of, it's like, that's the, I don't know. They're wearing it with a little too much pride. And certain times I'm like, you know, stop freaking booing. Like, yeah, they just kind of go a little overboard with it.

But when the Phillies won the world series 2008, I'll do it. I'll take that. Yeah. Like it had been a long time in the Phillies and now they're back. It's like they made the run with Ryan Howard and Utley and Rollins on stuff. And now they're kind of, you know, back to the farm system thing. And now the Eagles, man. The Eagles are 5-1.

You got a real quarterback finally. That guy's excellent. I hope we're not jinxing him because this isn't coming out until after Sunday's game. I think we're pretty good. The Panthers in North Carolina were a good test. We have a defense. And so having a defense again is great. Have you met Wentz?

No, I like every one of his tweets. Yeah. Just to be like a little girl. I'm like, hey, man. You know, notice me. Doesn't matter what he's probably like. Like, heart. Friggin' thumbs up.

Keep doing it. Later. I know I chat with Zach Ertz a little bit. Yeah. But, yeah. I mean, they're young guys. I'm all the way in on wentz because i judge my quarterbacks not a hundred percent but at least 40 percent no by uh by how they perform

in the nfl films when they're taped on the sidelines how they interact with their teammates and his teammates love him and he's like a leader and he's like a good dude yeah and you can just kind of tell and during the off season he brought brought, I think, all the receivers and everybody to North Dakota and they kind of hung out and had a hang. That's what I want for my quarterback. Yeah, yeah. I feel like that's like 60% of that position is just being a leader, bringing everybody in, looking out for people.

And he clearly has that. Which one? Brady. Well, he became too famous. Yeah. Now I think he's this revered figure that he's like almost he's ascended above his teammates tommy touched on any yeah he is he's yeah he's the greatest but for last decade that's what he was like he was like the dude he

went out with the offensive lineman and he took everybody fired up he gets man still does his whole life revolves around i mean i'm sure there's actors like this too, but all he wants to do is play in football games. Yeah. Every decision he makes is based on, I have to play 17 games in three or four playoff games. So everything I eat, when I go to bed, it's all on him. His side is kind of out in the world at this point and it's like, yeah.

I get it. They sent me the book and my wife bought the electrolytes, which I was really embarrassed by. Yeah. My wife bought- I get it. They sent me the book, and my wife bought the electrolytes, which I was really embarrassed by. Yeah. Because I didn't want them. That's the hangover cure. Well, I think the mailman might think I ordered them, but I didn't. Right.

I didn't. I don't love to- You don't like feeling the judgment from your mailman? I don't want to be judged by the mailman. I get it. I don't want that either. Who needs that? Philly sports, though.

Yeah. Pat's played them in the super bowl yeah the third time that they won with brady yeah and it was in jacksonville which was awful yeah it was like as much of a train wreck as i said it was gonna be yeah right um the eagles fans because the pats had made it the other two times so they they didn't travel the same way they did the other two times and the philly had a maiden i can't remember how long so they're't travel the same way they did the other two times. And the Philly had them made it, and I can't remember how long. So they're all there. And it was like 75% to 80% Eagles fans.

And by the start of the second quarter, they were just pissed off. And it was one of the weirdest sporting events I've ever been to. Just angry, bitter, I knew it, I fucking knew it. I wouldn't have went down there for that. I don't know what the line on the game was, probably two touchdowns or something. I don't know what the line on the game was. Probably two touchdowns or something. I don't remember. No, it was lower.

I just remember because the T.O. thing is like, is T.O. going to play? He was awesome in that game. That's the thing about being Eagle fans. When we had Andy Reid, we averaged 10.5 wins or something a season. We're great. But yeah, we've never won a Super Bowl yeah so it's hard to believe it's tough yeah okay hey this and then you got the giants who limp in with a wild card twice eli manning who regular season numbers is

not a hall of fame quarterback he's just not yeah he's always right there in the middle and then they just kind of limp in and defense plays out of their mind. And Eli plays out of his mind. So the three Philly movies, Invincible, I remember. Mark Wahlberg. But that had Elizabeth Banks as the Philly waitress. That was good. She was just, that kind of tapped in a little bit. Dude, and Philly, it's like, because even I have a bit of a, once I get up in the Northeast, I'll start getting it back.

It's just a terrible accent. There's nothing like, I say like phone home oh yeah what are yous doing yeah what are yous doing oh yeah let's go down to the pier big fan with Patton Oswalt is he a Philly guy Eagles one

that was a super duper indie that was like very low under the radar it was good though what was it called big fan I think I saw it, but I don't remember. I'm going to say it was like seven years ago. The other one was Silver Linings Playbook, I guess. Silver Linings Playbook. Which I had some gambling issues with. Sure. Yeah.

That was a movie where they needed a gambling consultant to be like, no, actually, if De Niro is going to book bets, we'll shoot at this one. Is today Saturday? No, it's Friday. Never mind. I did well betting baseball. Football is like... I freaking fall in love with the teasers, man.

Yeah, me too. I got killed this year. You go heavy on the teasers because you're like, oh, the underdog inflated or the big favorite lesson and then the under or something. But I'm bad with over-unders. I swear I have teasers after last weekend. Good.

So that's last evening. With the Falcons losing to the Dolphins. Until college football tomorrow. Now, in college football, I would never do a teaser. I don't trust 19-year-old kids. Just in general. Yeah, I don't trust them with anything. They're going to behave in a rational way

that I can predict and wager on. No way. Not doing that. The pros should be more rational. But this is the case for the Eagles. This is the case for the Eagles. It's like a really weird NFL season that there's no great team and you have a quarterback. I don't like your coach. Chiefs lost yesterday, so I think the Eagles

on ESPN should be number one power rank. I mean, whatever power rankings are for the NFL, but yeah, I think they should be I think they have a 45% chance of getting the one seed in the NFC. I don't want to jinx it. I don't bet them.

Well, if you beat the Skins – I don't even pick them in a pick-em. If you beat the Skins, you're looking good in the NFC East. Yeah, and we should. Because you beat them twice. Everyone's picking upset Skins over the – Second time. Yeah, over the birds.

Over the birds. But, yeah, I don't – yeah, I just keep – Sounds like he needs a second sports movie. I want to do a baseball movie. That's what, that's what I want to do. I just think like, you know,

it seems like they're doing the, you know, the biopics and stuff, but, uh, yeah, like a bull Durham. Cause baseball is that one sport that,

you know, half the time, the entire team's in the dugout and the pace of the game is so slow and you can, you can actually have, you know, the conversations can't do scenes during, you know, a football game or, uh, or like any given Sunday or something or whatever. I mean, the NFL won't let you have the conversations. You can't do scenes during a football game or any given Sunday or whatever.

I mean, the movies aren't. Well, the NFL won't let you have the uniforms anyway. They always have to make up the fake franchises. Yeah, right. The Sharks. Any given Sunday is all those big teams. Albuquerque's got an expansion team. Yeah, I remember watching that movie with my grandpa

and then there's that locker room scene. It's just like so many dicks. And you're just like, ah, man. Whoa. Have you seen The Deuce on HBO? That's about as dick prolific as a show that's been on the way. I watched the first couple and haven't caught up with it because I'm not good with like iPads.

All that stuff, yeah. I would need to be able to, I guess, yeah, what I need to do is like on iTunes, like you download your stuff and then you watch it with you and you have a portable tablet, but I just trapped in a trailer all the time. That's Florida. No, I mean, when you're making these movies, don't they put you in these little like, yeah, you are, but I don't,

I don't know, man. I'm, I think for a lot of the films, at least, at least the last few, man, I really feel like I'm on a tightrope and it's one of those scenes where it's like, you know, we thank you for your service. You're playing a guy. You know, Staff Sergeant Army just finished three deployments. There's not a single – I can never kind of relax into myself. And I was nervous that whole time about messing it up, you know, truly. So I don't know.

So do you go to that zone where you're like – you have to think like the character, even when you're not filming and you're like having dinner that night and you're waking up making coffee? No, when I go home, I shut it down because I know that's important, you know, because those 12 hours, you know, on set are, yeah, or taxi, man, there's not like, yeah, you're pretending to be a sergeant in the army, a guy with post-traumatic stress who you know a week ago just carried his buddy down the stairs as he was bleeding out and

the guy's choking on his his blood and stuff and and then at the end you know and he dropped him a little bit down the stairs and uh and then you're doing a scene where you're making pancakes but you're not really just making pancakes man your mind is yeah your mind's still still in war how many old older movies that dealt with similar subjects did you watch? Zero. I watched zero. And we actually did a moderated Q&A the other day. And this guy was saying in the history of film, there's only been seven films that have focused on, truly focused on that transition home. Wow. Yeah. And the response that we're getting from, you know, Vietnam veterans and, um, you know, veterans from this war has been amazing. Like I've never, I've never done

a movie that has really worked as therapy for, for people and not just, not just, um, you know, post-traumatic stress from the war, but, you know, we've had kids, literally like teenagers, man, who have come out afterwards and said that they had, uh, you know, that they had tried to try to kill themselves and that watching this movie and seeing Adam, uh, him be able to kind of like come out the other side was really helpful to him. And these Vietnam vets are just coming up to us like tears in their eyes with a tissue. Can't even say anything. Cause that's, it's kind of the generation, right? You don't talk about it. Like be a man, you deal with it. And these guys just coming up and just like giving a hug and didn't want to see the movie and then they see

and they're just so appreciative of it that we told their story adam had like rock rock rock rock rock bottom he yeah i mean there's an area i mean look there's you know 20 vets a day and um you know the numbers of guys come there's no reintegration program literally in real life adam had just finished his third deployment he had spent three years in iraq you know off and on through the deployments and had just went through this thing and he got medevaced out for having ptsd and then he gets back and his wife's like you know um and she doesn't know what he's been through or anything he can't talk to her about it and she's like all right you know you've been gone for a year i've

been taking care of the kids like you got to be a dad now and you got to be a husband all this stuff and and and that was a week later like there's no reintegration program so the area when these guys first come back those couple months they call it the red zone and that's where um you know and something like 85 i think military marriages end in divorce because they incentivize it or sent to what's the word incentivize incentivize it. It's like, oh, if you get married, then you can live off base, and then your pay goes up and all these things. And it's tough, man. These are young kids.

These are 19, 20-year-old kids who went in. I think over half the military come from lower-income households. They're all coming from the same states. That's the other thing. It seems now for this war, it's like, oh, a lot of people don't know somebody who's coming from the same states. That's the other thing. It seems now for this war, it's like, oh, a lot of people don't know somebody who's coming back from this war. Whereas Vietnam, there was a draft. The country was experiencing it. And then World War II, these guys came back. America kicked ass. It was the baby boom. And they're coming back to

take or take parades. And these guys are just not coming back to that. They're coming back and they have to try and find a job. Whoever's hiring you doesn't care that you're in charge of eight guys and uh we're a command of you know five four million dollar tanks and all that stuff it's you know they're getting kind of um entry level positions and it's like it's just tough man i really i just really feel for those guys to have to go through that and just not have the resources to i mean the va is the va is fine you know the va is not the problem. It is the solution, but they're just overwhelmed. And there's a lot of bureaucratic red tape

that prevents these guys from, you know, really getting the help they need. And what they're going through, you know, they're in war. Like there's no, you can't relate to it if you haven't been to it. And for a 19 year old kid to be like, he loses his buddy. They all go through roll call. Everyone's got tears in their eyes.

And as they're freaking, you know, grieving this guy, they're, you know, loading up their guns and going back out there. And it's that kind of mindset every day for a year. I can only imagine having to have that mindset for that long and then to come back and knowing, like, you know, there's not that reintegration program. Yeah, I mean, shit. You see it in sports, which is, like, the crazy, you know, there's not that reintegration program. Yeah, I mean, shit. You see in sports, which is like the crazy.

CTU, you're talking. Well, I mean, just like the Celtics game this week. We are back to Boston sports again. Hold on. I'm going to bring this around. Gordon Hayward breaks his ankle. Yeah. And the guy's like Kyrie Irving's crying on the on the sideline and then

they're back out there two minutes later and it's like this is sports like ultimately hayward's gonna be fine or jordan this is like you're talking about these soldiers that they're just seeing that over and over again day after day after day and they just kind of have to keep moving and keep going and keep and there's no way that's not gonna pile up on you yeah and also and the similarity is like you know these these athletes so these soldiers it's like they get back and once they're done you know they strip you of your uniform they take your weapon which was your that was your like identity that was your your you know your life your life source and then these guys who you know they refer

to each other as their brothers and sisters in arms right these people that they're literally fighting for their life with and then they get back and everyone spreads out and then it's like yeah you're left to your own devices and athletes once they get done it's like who you know who am i if you're lucky maybe you can get kind of a a gig commentating or something if you were a quarterback you know seems like or whatever it is but uh yeah it's just that yeah it's that loss of identity man and that's uh and that's and that man. And that's tough to deal with. But yeah, in sports, you have CTE right now, right? And we're seeing, you know, Junior Seau killed himself

and that kind of really, you know, propelled all these things. Now we're doing the brain studies and Aaron Hernandez, you know, and all these guys. And our soldiers are dealing with, I mean, the amount of concussions they're dealing with from mortars and just like everything day in and day out. Yeah. On top of everything else in and day out. Yeah. On top of everything else.

On top of everything else. Like war, you know, you're biologically different. Your brain looks completely different after you get back. And these athletes, man. And so, I don't know. It's all about awareness. And hopefully, you know, that's if people go out and say, thank you for your service, then that'll, I think it'll help'll help close that gap between civilian and soldier,

civilian and veteran. And yeah, these are our guys, man. Regardless of if you agree with the war or not, the numbers of people that are leaving this country and coming back messed up, I think we have a duty to kind of help them out. When I was in college, I took this special class. I was basically studying Vietnam War movies, which they started making them, I'm going to say, like 1977 all the way through maybe the mid-'80s. And then they became kind of action movies, like Mission Action with Chuck Norris.

But the early wave were really good. I was hoping for a Chuck Norris reference while we were doing this. Well, you knew it was going to happen at some point. The early ones were like Coming Home, which did really well. Best Years of Our Lives. John Boyd, Jane Fonda, The Deer Hunter, obviously. But First Blood was really about what we're talking about. And you don't think of it that way because you think of like,

oh, that became Rambo and it became this whole franchise. But the movie's about this disenfranchised Vietnam vet who comes back and one a lot, one of his dudes that he was in the, in the platoon with is dead and he's going to find them. And then the way people treated Vietnam vets, cause they didn't like the war. I know it's disgusting. But this was this whole era of movies from that. I wonder why we haven't had that for this area.

Do you think this will start it? I think, I mean, there's been, look, I think there's been a bunch. I think if you look at it, there actually have been a lot of movies that are dealing with this war. There's not a, you know, we're not fighting a country, right? We're fighting like terrorists, that enemy doesn't have, you know, it's not. The enemy doesn't have a face. Yeah, and it's IEDs, you know know it's not like this front line it's 360 degree warfare it's in the middle east like yeah but uh i don't know i feel like we're even though

we're still in the war i think now seems like a good time for you know for for this movie i think a couple years ago people weren't ready to i don't know people didn't seem ready to kind of confront it but um i think it also depends on the you know the movie has to be good not just your movie but in general like american sniper was a good movie yeah you know and he dealt with some of that stuff in that too bradley cooper's character but not it wasn't the theme of the movie that's where and jason hall our writer and director who wrote american sniper he he sees this movie as almost kind of the second act of that in a way, because he said, you know, he was getting fairly close with Chris and Chris had only been back,

I think a couple months when Jay was talking to him and he tells this story of, he was talking to Chris on the phone and he heard him laugh. And he said it was a laugh that he hadn't heard. And he could see Chris kind of like getting himself back a little bit and kind of reintegrating a little bit. And then two days later, he was murdered. And so this, you know, he never got that. He never got that opportunity to come home. So, yeah, and these guys are fighting a different war. He also thought, like, because he did Sniper, it would kind of give him a foundation for this movie.

And he couldn't have been more wrong. You know, those Special Forces guys, like, and my, a really good buddy of mine from high school, he's, he ended up being a badass, which he was not in high school, but he's, he's still team six now. And, and look, yeah, those, and I know a lot of those guys and they're, they're, they're different. They're fighting a different war. Like the amount of training that they go through, it's it's so intense and it's in its years and years and by the time they get over there they've weeded out all the guys who maybe were just doing this to see how tough they were or how badass they were if these guys are our super soldiers when we're sending them out whereas opposed to now like i said you know it's it's you

know voluntary draft but you know it provides a financial opportunity you know for a lot of these guys they're 19 year old kids and they do a 10-week boot camp you know marines you know it provides a financial opportunity you know for a lot of these guys they're 19 year old kids and they do a 10-week boot camp you know marines you know they're doing a 10-week boot camp and then they're there on the front lines they're the first guys in whereas a seal it's like if we lose one guy that sucks because they're the amount of money millions of dollars to train these dudes up whereas army infantry and marines you know they're not so much worried about the individual. It's kind of the team objective. Quick break to talk about draft.

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over the last five years six years whatever how many what was the first time you had to go promote just say less say less i don't know man it's like you do these interviews and shit and it's like because you got burned you read something and and they're kind of chopping it up and doing whatever and and you're just like i don't know and i just it's like i like those it's like you don't you don't need to talk about i think that kind of i think that kind of ruins it you know it's like just i don't need to know your process man i just want to see you do your thing. And honestly, the more I know about it, the less the mystique is, you know, so.

Yeah, people have handled that different ways. Like there's some actors we don't know anything about. Yeah, and I think. And then there's others that we almost, you cross some invisible line you know too much about. Yeah, I guess I didn't think when I was getting in this business that so much, you know's it seems like it's a part of the business is you know it's like it's sound bites and i really never thought i'd be in a position to where i'm answering more questions

about my personal life or something than uh the the work you know the movie and that's just something that even marlon brando there's this old interview with him it's it's taped and he's talking about you know being a being a celebrity is is uh you know it's it's the worst because you you get kind of you get removed from society but he's talking about the press and all the things that i kind of feel you know he's talking about it back then so it's just kind of something you deal with and and yeah i go back and forth of wanting to be kind of the Tom Hanks, you know, the guy who is, you know, kind of the, you know, loves it. Just the showman and all that stuff. I go back and forth wanting that and then wanting to be the guy who just does his thing. And, you know, that's it.

So. I don't know what the right answer is. Yeah. And people always, I don't know, people just always want to like put you in a box or something. I don't know what the right answer is. Yeah. And people always, I don't know, people just always want to put you in a box or something. I don't know. I just don't. I thought what happened with that one Esquire thing, I think it was last year, was somebody who's written a lot of pieces over the years,

there's tricks you can do to kind of sway it one way or the other. And that one, I don't know. I'm just not a fan of that kind of writing. Yeah, I mean, the more I thought, I was like, man, it does. It says way more about her than it does about me. And it's just weird. It's like, so yeah, during that thing, it's like we're drinking. And she says kind of an off-colored comment.

Then I say something, and we're both in the same movie. Like, we're both in the same thing. And then she just kind of removes herself from it, highlights certain things I did, and just really painted this picture. And just the whole, like, Miles Teller's a dick, doesn't care what you think. I'm like, that is not true. I don't think there's anything cooler in Vogue about being a dick. You know what I mean?

I don't know how, you know, you're we're chopping it up here and and uh and the one thing she said that i was like you motherfucker was like um she said miles teller who just showed me pictures of how buffy is made me cut his meat for him i said what are you talking about we're talking about bleed for this and uh she was we're talking about cutting weight or or something i was like oh you know here's you know i have a photo and just kind of showed her that and then she wanted uh i asked her if she wanted a bite of if she wanted to try what i was doing and i didn't know what i was eating and i i didn't cut it up and like hand it to her i just handed her the plate because to me i was like i'm not gonna cut her and feed her i'll just you know here and you can cut it and the way she the way she did that i was like why yeah i

think miles car's a dick too if he's like talking about his muscles and then like oh babe you want to cut my meat for me because it's a really tough steak i asked for a medium rare super tough like no man uh so yeah you can't get ahead of that stuff like they they print it and then people um like i said they don't they don't they don't look at the the kind of the big picture they that and like, Oh, she said he's a dick. Oh, he must be a dick. Oh, I'm not, I'm not going to see this movie. He's an asshole. I got burned by something similar to that. It's hard, man. You never know if somebody, you know,

either they have an agenda going in or they decide during or after that they're like, Oh, if I do this angle, more people, more people read it, more people click it. And, and, uh, and yeah, I get it, but it're like, oh, if I do this angle, this would be a good angle. Yeah, more people read it, more people click it. And yeah, I get it. But it's like I'm not going to – I know I'm a good person. You know what I mean? So I felt like if I put my head down on my pillow at night and I was like, man, am I a dick?

Am I an asshole? Then yeah, that would suck. Right. But I'm not. That sounds like a good start for the rom-com. You're just staring in the mirror going, am I a dick? Am I an asshole? And then the movie starts.

I have a new idea for binge watching. I don't think they should put all of them out at once. I think they should just put three. And then wait like 10 days and then put out the next three. Because these things like the Fincher thing just came out on Netflix, the serial killer show, which I was excited about. And I have some psychos in my life who just banged it out in two days. It's like now they're on this whole different schedule

of talking about it and processing it than me, and I can't get on it. And now it's, I'll watch it eventually, but I feel like I'm missing out on the whole thing. Yeah, that water cooler talk kind of gets disrupted a little bit. It's not once a week. There's a reason Game of Thrones was so huge for our site and just in general. Not just that it's a great show, but every week it was almost like a sporting event each week.

I feel like we're starting to lose that, and it's annoying. The first thing that I binged was Stranger Things when that first one came out. That's a good binge. I just sat on my couch with my girl, ordered food, like just bottles of wine whatever everything just within arm's reach so we never had to leave the couch yeah and uh and i was like this is unhealthy that i have a 12 hours of just good content to just yeah just enjoy i'm having those feet endorphins like craving it for 12 hours like that's not good for me. Yeah. Personally. It's borderline dangerous. You got engaged.

Yeah, I did. How old are you? 30. It's kind of young. In Hollywood, it's very young. It's pretty young. Yeah. This is just it?

This is the one? She just turned 25. See, these guys are going to laugh because I always tell them, don't get married till you're 38 okay yeah yeah yeah well she's 38 late 30s kind of know at that point you are who you are right kind of settle in right yeah we've been together for four and a half years and uh i don't know it's not i mean she's got a she's got to put up with it because you know eight months out of the year usually if i'm doing two movies a year it's like i'm you know our relationship is it's kind of long distance or if i'm working on a particular movie i'm not like a barrel of laughs you know i just i kind of i talk for a living and

i manipulate emotions for a living or i make people i'm making people laugh on set for a living and it's like i come home and she's just getting a uh just uh potato you know i just i don't want to do anything well now you got to do this philly sports movie we got to come up with so you like come up with it come up with the you want to be you want baseball yeah you like the stuff in the dugout so did you like for love of the game with costner for love of the game was good yeah the rom-com stuff was what killed that movie but the baseball stuff's unbelievable yeah that's where he throws. That's where he throws the, was it the perfect game? Yeah.

John C. Reilly is the catcher who can't totally throw, but that's all right. They cut around it. I almost did a baseball movie with Luke Wilson for a minute. Did it come out? No, but we were having baseball practice. It was a movie that he wrote, and we were doing baseball practice down in Santa Monica.

I get my baseball fix from MLB All-Star weekend every year. I'm always playing in that celeb game. And they're making jokes about how seriously I'm taking it, but I'm like, yeah, this is great. Are you kidding me? We're getting to play on the field, and I'm showing outfield. I'm like, two outs, two outs. You know, like telling the pitcher I got you up the middle for a double play. But I love it so much.

It's probably embarrassing to watch. It's probably embarrassing how much I – How much you were into it? Yeah. I announced that game in 2012, and it was a career highlight. Oh, yeah. It was great. It just got –

Who was the MVP the year? The end of the year after. I don't remember. I just remember Jon Hamm was in it and he was – I know him a little bit. So it was in St. Louis? It was Kansas City. Okay. 2012. Yeah.

And Jon Hamm was really into it. He sent me because he saw – I know Jon a little bit, but he saw my game or something. Then he showed me – it was almost like a trading card. I don't know, it was just like a really nice photo of him during the game, probably hitting a good shot or something. When I was working for Kimmel, they played in Chicago and he hit a home run. I saw that one.

Which he then showed on his show for the next four years. Oh, yeah, dude. Anytime anything happened, he would show it. I have mine on my phone. Oh, you had one? Oh, yeah. I hit a home run, yeah. Because I played in it once before and I didn't go deep.

I had two infield singles, which is just embarrassing. Because you're going for the home run. Yeah, you're going for the home run. I feel like I had a good run for MVP, but then this one dude, they called him like the Brad Pitt of Puerto Rico or something, wherever he's from, but he was a ringer he's been in some some tv or something but he's he played college baseball right come on man there's always two people in the game who weren't quite famous enough to be in the game and have some sort of college baseball or they played double a yeah rusillo they wouldn't

let him play in the game for uh for really? He was pretty pissed about that. I didn't know he was a ringer like that. Yeah. Well, he wears cut-off t-shirts a lot. I feel like that kind of guy, bicep, glamour muscles, he's built for a slow pitch softball league. He's a boss, the guy. So what position are you playing in the baseball movie? Put me a shortstop. Or a third base.

Give me the hot corner. Philly. Are you in the minors or the majors for what for this baseball movie um because i feel like the minors has more get a little more that that uh ragtag group of guys and stuff maybe you're 30 30 year old minor leaguer it's not the crash davis thing because crash dav was too old. This is like make or break, basically. You got a cup of coffee. You got sent down. I like where we're starting.

This is it. Your agent wants you to go to Japan. Right. There's more money there. Right. If you go to Japan, you're never going to go back to the show. Right. They did that.

Wasn't that Tom Selleck? No. Mr. Baseball? Mr. Baseball's out. We don't care about that. Mr. Baseball? The Bernie Mac movie we're not going to talk about. I'm playing Darren Dalton.

I'm doing his story. That was my guy. Flying Dutchman, man. He was just so tan. His hair. That 93 team. I mean, I can name you every player. Those are my guys.

Would you play Dykstra? Nails? Because there's probably a Dykstra movie. It would be a dark movie. Yeah, well, there's a lot going on. Yeah. A lot to unpack there. Oh, there's a lot to unpack. a lot to unpack there oh there's a lot to unpack

yeah a lot he's so funny i just was reading did you read when he was going back and forth on twitter with lena dunham no catch that after this it's just i can't imagine that going well it's so uh so funny at some point he's sending because she was talking i don't know she's talking about baseball or something and he's like just very aggressively kind of hitting on her or whatever and then he's like and it's just him went for the Mets when he hit the home run yeah peep it it's pretty

Lenny Dexter Lenny Dexter's seduction of Lena Dunham goes horribly wrong it's pretty great we'll keep this out of the Lenny Dexter movie I think you're a shortstop. I think you're 30. Yeah.

And something's kept you back from making the majors. I don't know what I, uh, my hands are too small. You don't take the game seriously enough because my hands are so small. No, because you, you can't stop chasing babes and partying.

You had the potential, you never got there. Right, okay. So somebody gives you a speech pretty early. Something. I think that's the start of something. Okay. I haven't seen the baseball movie where the guy didn't take it seriously enough because... I guess in Bull Durham you got Tim Robbins' character a little bit, right?

Yeah, but he was borderline. I mean, they made him so dumb. It almost made him too dumb. Plus the throwing motion on Tim Robbins. That's my flaw in that movie. First of all, that movie's a rom-com, not a baseball movie. It's got good baseball scenes, but I still feel like it's a rom-com. The Robbins throwing, I don't know.

I can never talk myself into that. Costner, not only could hit, not only could by catcher but was a really convincing pitcher too yeah one of our great sports movie athletes see that's great man he's just he's just Americana to me man I love uh love Kevin Costner does your generation believe in field of dreams or no um that was a huge one for me for me I mean it was it was Sandlot That's the thing Sandlot was the Was the thing We used to watch it before every baseball game

And that's because my high school baseball team sucked I was watching freaking Sandlot Like Grow up Who did we have on the podcast that lost the main Oh Jake Gyllenhaal He had the main The cool Oh, Jake Gyllenhaal. Jake Gyllenhaal. He had the main. For Sandlot?

The cool guy. He didn't get it. He got knocked out. Well, he's not. No offense, Jake, but he wasn't right for it. You needed Benny the Jet, dude. This is great. There's our blog headline.

Tell our shots that Jake Gyllenhaal said he wasn't right for Sandlot. Sorry, man. Sandlot. How many Sandlots have there been? Sandlot 4 could happen. I think they've kept. I think they've made at least three. It's like somebody posted a picture of a,

it was like on their DirecTV, and they searched Home Alone, and it was like Home Alone, Home Alone 2, Home Alone 3. Oh, parents are gone. And it's like seven Home Alones. It just keeps going. This escalated quickly. Yeah.

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I've been able to relive baseball movies through my son. Because he's almost 10. Oh, yeah. Sandlot was all in on that. Major League. We just watched Hardball. He's kind of plowing through Bad News Bears. Rookie of the Year.

Yeah. And then what's the one where the kid, he like breaks his arm. And then he's throwing heaters as like a 12-year-old. And he's like the starting pitcher for the Twins. And then what's the one where the kid, he like breaks his arm and then he's throwing heaters as like a 12-year-old. And he's like the starting pitcher for the Twins. And then his mom who... I thought that was Rookie of the Year. Or that was Rookie of the Year. And then there was...

Little Big League was the other one. The Little Big League where the kid owned the team. It was the glory years. And Ken Griffey Jr. robs. Terrible baseball ideas. Yeah. It was Randy Johnson. I don't know if Buhner was in it.

But yeah. There's this really weird run of kids being thrust into real life sports movies. That sounds pretty low flying, right? Big helicopter. Like that little bow wow they made Mike. Yes. The kid with the broken arm who could throw 112 miles an hour. All of a sudden it was like four years of that.

Air Bud. Air Bud. It was a very strange time for movies. Eddie. Yeah. Little Giants was football. Little Gi years of that. Air Bud. Air Bud. It was a very strange time for movies. Eddie. Yeah. Little Giants was football. Little Giants was great. Little Giants was great, yeah.

That one was big. Go Big Green. I feel a sports movie. What do you think? Next three years, Tommy? Next two years. The Cost of Crown's available for your generation. Yeah.

You bang out one baseball movie football movie i don't even know my generation is because like i'm considered i think i'm considered a millennial but i just i i don't relate to you know the kids that are you know five six years younger than me man it's like they all had iphone stuff and yeah i think i got a black when i was you know facebook it was like you had to be in college you know when you first got and i remember i think i got a blackberry in college but it was a you had to be in college when you first got in. I remember, I think I got a BlackBerry in college, but it was a Razor phone. And we weren't texting each other to see what was going on. No, you picked up, you called a house phone.

If you're trying to talk to a chick, the mom answered. And then, oh, Megan's in the shower again. How many showers has she taken? How clean is this chick? Yeah, exactly. I get it. she's screening my calls that was the original screen calls like the mom answers the phone

pre-caller ID was tough yeah because you don't know it's Russian roulette every time you're picking up the phone you just don't know who's on the other end yeah I found the people that have worked for Grantland and then at the Ringer for me different generations within the generations yeah so like

there's certain people if you're under 25 you've never had life without email ever you don't remember what life was like before the internet or you probably never had a job in high school probably not yeah then you get to like the 30 range and they've had slightly different experiences than 35 so I must fight there's three different ones within the ones but the ones the people like 22 to 25 can do five things at once yeah i'm always amazed by that and they're saying like the millennial generation like they care more about uh career and job career more than like fam or education education and and career more than you know starting a family and stuff and i don't know you believe that tate Education and career more than starting a family and stuff.

I don't know. You believe that, Tate? Look at the mail. You're special. Tate's career first. That's also millennial generation. You're special. You're unique. You're going to be a shooting star in this world of whatever plans.

You're a millennial. You can't turn it on, Tate. Dude, I... You're sitting here right in the demo. I don't know. I used to go to Blockbuster, and I had a dial-up, and I used to use AltaVista to look up naked chicks when I was 10 years old.

AltaVista. That was the one. That was the one. I got caught distributing, I guess technically distributing pornography because I had the only color printer in my neighborhood. So I'd print off pictures of Jenny McCarthy and Pamela Anderson and Carmen Electra

and I would fold them up and I'd sell them. I'd have like 25 cents on there and I'd sell them. And then I got busted. And I called my mom and they're like, look, we're not going to take this that far, but technically your son was distributing pornography. So we could really stick it to him. That's a badge of honor.

Just maybe check on him. Since he's a friend of the pod, me your best michael b jordan story michael b jordan i mean i don't i don't want to i i don't i don't know how many i can what i could put out there um mike's just yeah mike's he's just great man he's so really good i don't know i think we see each other as kind of running mates in this thing and we're not it's a very easy business to kind of pitch you against somebody I just love everything that Mike stands for and he's been doing it for a long time

he was in what's the movie with G-Baby with Keanu Reeves Hardball he was in that he got kicked off the team because he was two weeks too old and next thing we know he's in this hard gang. Right.

That was the last time you see him. Right. Hardball is a movie of extremes. People still say, where's Wallace? When you're in New York with Mike, they still say, where's Wallace? Well, now he's got the Creed thing, I think, is carrying him, though. Now he's got the- Creed is like-

Not only was it a big movie in the theater, but then it had a huge cable run. Yeah. No, Mike's- You didn't really give me a mike michael b jordan story yeah i mean there's you're super loyal to that dude yeah efron you'll give me one story no just a head shake just girls everywhere with efron uh look man we had a lot of fun we had a lot of fun filming the movie a lot of girls passed through the Efron orbit while you were with them or no?

the Thompson Hotel lobby there was a lot of footprints was that after he had made the third High School Musical? he was still coming out of that he was Bieber before Bieber that dude was on underwear

he was on lunchboxes every girl had a cardboard cutout of him with that haircut that he had and uh and yeah i remember this yeah with zach i just remember we were having dinner or something and he's talking about some dope uh like les paul uh yeah gibson that he had and i was like oh man like that you know guitar is pretty expensive and i didn't even know that you played like why do you have that and he just kind of sat there and he goes, Miles, yeah, I have everything. And that actually made me like him a lot. Because it's like, cool, man.

Be a little self-aware. And that's cool. I own it, man. I think he's a good actor. It's one of my hottest Hollywood takes. Because I think he's gotten pigeonholed as no i'm just curious i thought he was good at neighbors yeah he uh i actually thought he was really funny in that movie yeah he is he is funny

yeah i think he got pigeonholed as this high school musical guy who's just kind of handsome but i actually think he can act i want to see him push his acting side more and not go as commercial. Yeah, I mean, I think, and look. That choice is not up to me. Guys have, certain guys have all the opportunities in the world. You know, it's just a matter of at any given time, any single one of these dudes who's famous, right, or has been, you know, leading some big movies,

all those guys have an opportunity to do an independent, do a dirty independent and show it. They really do. I feel like you have a feud with Efron, you're not telling us. No, me and Zach are actually in the ESPN Fantasy Football League. Are you really? Yeah. Alright, cool.

It's Matthew Barry's, so there's a bunch of guys in there. And then I'm in another one with Chris Pratt and Jeremy Renner and Paul Rudd and it's like this kind of superhero one Jeremy Renner

yeah Renner pick him as a fantasy football guy oh yeah he is he's a big sports guy he's a big yeah he's from Northern California

he's a big Niners guy what other what other actors can I ask him about Tommy anyone you care about you know about you know about

J.K. Simmons was like just a serial rapist in Oz right are you aware of Oz Tommy. Anyone you care about? You know about J.K. Simmons was just a serial rapist in Oz, right? Are you aware of Oz? He was the most awful character ever in Oz. I know. I asked him, I was like, how many prison sex scenes, how many dudes did you

fuck during that show? And he's like, oh, dude, a hundred. Like, and aggressive. He was Schillinger. He was Schillinger. Yeah. He was a Nazi predator. Yeah. Oz kind of came, was Oz after the war? It was like late 90s.

No, it was before. Before, yeah. So that's what he, it was like right before that format really kind of picked up. Oz was the first great HBO drama. Yeah. That gets no credit for that now. Everyone thinks it's Sopranos, but like Oz was fantastic. Yeah. drama yeah that gets no credit for that now everyone thinks it's sopranos but like oz was fantastic yeah and it was such a good show that all the guys from that show you couldn't separate from the show for years after like the wire was a little like that too where everyone was so deep on the wire it was hard to accept anyone not as stringer bell or all those things all right

oh yeah jonah yeah we had Jonah last year on the show it was fun he's a big sports fan yeah he's a big Lakers fan okay yeah it makes sense

yeah cause I would yeah we weren't talking sports or anything but um movie comes out October 27th

Friday Thank You For Your Service comes out October 27th and Only The Brave comes out October 20th yeah it's like I already came out by the time I got here oh yeah too bad and then that's it for Miles Teller movies The Service comes out October 27th, and Only the Brave comes out October 20th.

Yeah, it's like I already came out by the time I got here. Oh, yeah, too bad. And then that's it for Miles Tower movies. You don't have a movie coming out November 4th, right? No, I don't. November 11th? Thank God I can kind of just sit back for a minute. I just hate, like I said, man, I like acting. I don't like talking about acting as much.

Well, we just came up with a sports movie for you. I gave you the first 20 minutes. Dude, let's have Costner direct it. 30-year-old, Philadelphia farm system. Has a cup of coffee. Cup of coffee. He's too much. He's with the babes too much.

He's got to mature. He owns multiple jet skis. Yeah, he's got to mature. Maybe a fanny pack or something. It's time for him to grow up. It's time for him to freaking grow up. He's got one last chance. One last chance.

That might be the title. One last chance. Yeah. The the title. One last chance. Yeah. The Phillies shortstop breaks his leg, gets called up. I don't know if we should call him up. I don't know if this kid's ready. All he cares about is banging babes. He's been a hothead.

Have you seen his Instagram? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you got in Twitter trouble. Yeah. You're a hothead. Dude, this movie's going to make zero dollars. The internet doesn't like him.

They don't do well in on-demand. Biles Tower. Good luck with the movies. Thanks, Bill. Appreciate it. All right. Thanks so much to SeatGeek. Don't forget, NBA fans, you have until November 1st.

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